=== Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [01:34] bah [01:34] bdoin just left when I needed him === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw_vm [n=paul@pool186.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === Kalle [n=Kalle@157.230.95.91.static.ter-blg.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #Edubuntu === pauljw [n=paul@pool186.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.104.238] has joined #edubuntu === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-239-240.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === t94xr [n=adg@60-234-134-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === aze [n=aze@208.78.52.239] has joined #edubuntu [04:01] LaserJock: man, nbd-server is COMPLETELY broken [04:02] It's so utterly, utterly broken. [04:02] In the entire history of broken, there's never been a broken more broken than nbd-server broken. [04:03] If you look up "broken" in the dictionary, there's a picture of a dead nbd-server lying on the floor. [04:03] <`6og> sbalneav, is something not working? [04:03] <`6og> ;) [04:03] Nah, everything's fine :) [04:04] EXCEPT NBD-SERVER!!!!!!111oneone [04:04] <`6og> lol === ath [n=ath@c-68-62-50-110.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw [n=paul@pool190.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:06] could I ask somebody for help with edubuntu? [04:07] I am a little bit stuck [04:08] Yes, I give you permission to ask. [04:08] :) [04:08] haha [04:08] thanks [04:09] I am trying to get edu running for our small highschool [04:09] we have about 8 computers and I want them all networked to a server [04:10] I am trying to get edu working first on vmware server [04:12] umm [04:12] and now I am trying to get the other machines to boot to the network. The rom-o-matic thing is hard to do. Do I have to open the box to see what kind of nic or is there a way of seeing the info in ubuntu? [04:13] What, if you boot ubuntu on the client? [04:13] You can download a universal etherboot boot floppy [04:13] http://etherboot.anadex.de or ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/Universal_boot_floppy [04:14] sorry, I am not being clear. I installed edubuntu workstation thinking that it was the thin client. [04:14] [04:14] then I found out that you need to boot into the network [04:14] So you have a server, right? [04:15] I do have a server on the server machine.. but I am running it in vmware server on my desktop [04:16] So, the server machine's a "virtual" server, correct? [04:17] yes [04:17] I don't know how well edubuntu's going to work from vmware, since I don't have vmware. [04:17] However, depending on the client machines, they may already be able to boot off the network, depending on the machine. [04:17] What kind of machines are they? [04:18] sempron processors, boxes put together in some guys little computer shop [04:18] they are fine for desktops, I am just tired of servicing all of them [04:19] <`6og> ath, semprons should pxe boot [04:19] ok, you might want to look in the bios setup on those machines. I'll wager they can PXE boot. [04:19] If so, you don't need etherboot. [04:19] really? Oh, I hope that is the case [04:20] if I am able to select pxe boot I shouldn't have to load anything else on the machine right? [04:20] Yep! [04:20] <`6og> ath, if your pxe booting you dont need cd/hdd/floppy drives at all [04:20] Now, whether or not you'll get them to SEE the virtual edubuntu machine's another matter entirely. [04:21] really? [04:21] I will have to tinker with this for the next few days. [04:22] thanks for helping me. I'll come back later. [04:22] <`6og> as long as the virtual machine is not being firewalled out of action by the host, it should be fine [04:22] oh, I don't think it is. [04:22] the firewall on the router won't do it? [04:23] <`6og> dont know [04:23] ok, well thanks for now [04:35] sbalneav: well, that's no good [04:36] coming in a little late === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu [04:46] Man, how can I revert to the previous version? [05:02] sbalneav: you can grab it off of Launchpad [05:02] this completely and utterly breaks all of ltsp. [05:03] will 2.8.7 work? [05:03] Launchpad needs a "DEFCON5" setting. :) [05:03] yeah, that was the previous version. [05:03] I think that's called Critical ;-) [05:03] do you want source of .debs? [05:03] s/of/or/ [05:04] both, actually [05:04] I'd love to dig into the code and find out. What I need to see is if the UPSTREAM has hacked this out, or if wouter@debian's hozed us. [05:06] bug filed. [05:06] Now to look up upstream. I think it's on kernel.org [05:08] source is: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nbd/1:2.8.7-5ubuntu1 [05:08] i386 .debs are: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nbd/1:2.8.7-5ubuntu1/+build/338868 [05:09] Cripes. [05:09] It's right in upstream [05:11] gaaahhh [05:36] sbalneav: have you looked for a bug report in Debian? === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@pool-71-120-175-22.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [07:52] highvoltage: you're up? [07:59] LaserJock: yep [07:59] isn't quite early there? [07:59] LaserJock: a bit early for me for a Saturday... but strange things happen :) [07:59] 8am [08:00] feel like doing some bug triage? :-) [08:03] LaserJock: I only have about 20 minutes before I have to leave for an appointment, something I could do in that timespace? === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [08:07] LaserJock: if I can help with that later, please send me a ping, let me know what I can do === cliebow_ [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [08:12] highvoltage: I was just on an Edubuntu bug fixing kick today [08:12] LaserJock: ah, ok. ogra resolved quite a bunch of them earlier this week, I'll go throught the list when I get back home and see how much is left and work through it [08:13] LaserJock: I did some website stuff last night, edubuntu.org is now on Drupal 5.1, and the https links work, and Matthew is in the US so he could at least get some colour scheme modifications for us [08:14] we're basing on the Canonical.com theme instead of the Ubuntu.com one, it's better and has support for more stuff. [08:19] highvoltage: so when will it go live? === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-239-240.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A9677C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [10:15] ogra: I looked through all the gcompris bugs today and was able to close a few. === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === RdX [n=alf@88.Red-80-38-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === RdX is now known as Castigador === jbrefort [n=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === Castigador [n=Cast@88.Red-80-38-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === Castigador [n=Alfredo@88.Red-80-38-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === Castigador [n=Alfredo@88.Red-80-38-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [12:00] <`6og> could you use a sparc server with i386 chroots as an ltsp server? [12:10] yes you can [12:10] i installed ubuntu-server on a sparc [12:11] <`6og> interesting. [12:11] then i installed the ltsp packages and i copied a i386er chroot from an i386er computer to the sparc [12:11] its running fine [12:11] but i only tested it with an old ultra 60 sparc [12:11] <`6og> i assume it doesnt support stuff like flash? === `6og looks at his old sparcs in the rack [12:12] <`6og> workstation5 is probably the oldest there [12:12] hm i didnt tested flash [12:12] because it is not my sparc;) and i dont want to have the ultra6 sparc here at home [12:12] <`6og> hehe [12:13] the sun monitor is to big for my desk [12:13] <`6og> wonder how netbsd runs on 32bit sparc, i want to use them for /something/ [12:13] <`6og> lol === jinty [n=jinty@54.Red-83-56-139.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === rockprincess [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu [01:11] hello all! [01:11] hi rockprincess [01:12] <`6og> rockprincess, !! [01:12] <`6og> good to see you again! [01:12] hi juliux and `6og! [01:12] <`6og> :) [01:12] I've got a serious problem :( [01:13] http://yapa.codein.at/?id=40 ... it's all explained here, maybe some of you know what causes it, I'm totally clueless === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [01:14] rockprincess, did you try to run e2fsck /dev/hda7 ? [01:14] juliux: not yet...because i have no idea what it actually does...I was worried that I could loose some data?! [01:15] rockprincess, you als can try to run e2fsck -b 8103 /dev/hda7 [01:15] rockprincess, e2fsck is a programm to check/repair the filesystem [01:15] <`6og> rockprincess, what does `sudo fdisk -l` give? === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [01:16] juliux: ohh i see, can I just run it in a terminal right now, or shall i boot into recovery mode? [01:16] <`6og> also `mount` [01:16] re [01:16] rockprincess, you can try it now [01:16] rockprincess, at first e2fsck /dev/hda7 [01:17] if that not works with the -b 8139 option [01:18] `6og: http://yapa.codein.at/?id=41 that's what sudo fdisk -l says [01:18] <`6og> rockprincess, the devices dont exist [01:18] <`6og> rockprincess, have you unplugged the drive/moved the sytem around? [01:18] `6og: it does....it's inside my pc [01:19] <`6og> rockprincess, not to the kernel they dont [01:19] rockprincess, i think best way is to reboot [01:19] `6og: not at all.....that device is actually my kubuntu system for my other pc....but it has some important data, that i wanted to move to the new pc now... [01:20] rockprincess, the you should get again the thing where it says there is an error press strg+d to reboot normal [01:20] juliux: everytime i boot with this hd plugged in, this error message appears, when i go to fstab and uncomment these partitions, then the error message doesn't appear [01:20] but this time you e2fsck in this "terminal" [01:20] <`6og> rockprincess, the kernel cant see the whole hdd anymore (hda). something must have caused it - drive dying, kernel update (perhaps), and a few other things could cuae it [01:20] <`6og> *cause [01:21] <`6og> rockprincess, does the file /var/log/fsck/checkfs exist? [01:21] `6og: kernel update probably, because I installed ubuntu studio on the same hard drive as my edubuntu system (which i'm on at the moment).... [01:21] `6og: checking if it exists....one second... [01:22] `6og: it's there.... === `6og is wondering whether its worth looking ni the file for more details [01:23] shall i pastebin it? [01:24] <`6og> juliux, what do you think? [01:24] i think reboot the system, see what happen then [01:25] `6og: that's my checkfs ... http://yapa.codein.at/?id=42 [01:25] if it tells you again that e2fsck fails run it manual [01:25] then you get more errors [01:25] ok good idea! [01:25] fsck.ext3: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hda7 /dev/hda7) [01:25] The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: [01:25] e2fsck -b 8193 [01:25] there is says everthing what you should do;) [01:26] juliux: can i run it in the terminal, or shall i reboot? because if i ran it in the terminal, I could copy and paste the output whereas when I reboot i'd have to write it down? [01:26] <`6og> it forgets to meantion crossing your fingers ;) [01:26] if you then start normal the device is not working because the kernel unplug it [01:26] rockprincess, reboot pls, [01:26] ok [01:26] rockprincess, if you get this mainteance shell and you start then with strg+d normal you have no access on the partition [01:27] is it risky? can i loose any data doing it? [01:27] you shouldn loose any data [01:27] yeah that's what I thought as well.... [01:27] ok, hopefully back in a few minutes.... [01:29] `6og, to come back to your sparc, what kind of sparc do you have? [01:29] <`6og> hehe. [01:30] <`6og> juliux, i have 8 or 9 'working', and half a dozen for parts [01:30] <`6og> juliux, sparcstation[5,10] , sparcstation10, sunblade 1[5,0] 0, 4x ultra5 [01:30] <`6og> um, sparc*server*10 [01:31] cool [01:32] if i have the money i want to buy a quad sparc ;) [01:32] <`6og> hehe. [01:32] <`6og> i just want a niagra, i dont care how many die's there are :) [01:33] i think a quad sprac is a pretty good ltsp server;) [01:33] <`6og> hehe. pity it wouldnt make a good heater *needs heating atm* [01:33] <`6og> perhaps i need a Power6 system for winter, and a niagra for summer ;) [01:34] hehe [01:34] <`6og> juliux, do you have much sparc gear yourself? [01:34] a power4+ system is also good for the summer [01:34] <`6og> sparc or any not intel stuff [01:34] i have no sparc;) [01:34] <`6og> i only have old G3 macs :( [01:34] <`6og> on ppc front [01:34] <`6og> ah :o go get some :P [01:35] but a friend of me has around 20 ultra20 sparcs, and an ultra 60, ultra40 [01:35] <`6og> 20? wth? he into clustering? [01:35] his idea was to cluster them but he didnt do it since today [01:35] he gets all the sparcs from the university for 10 each [01:36] <`6og> wow. why cant uni's in australia be like that :| [01:36] <`6og> that said, i've got some pretty funky kit from uni's [01:37] <`6og> juliux, are all your systems IA32/AMD64, or do you do 'alternative' stuff? === rockprincess [n=theresa@chello084112026078.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #edubuntu [01:38] back [01:38] <`6og> wb :) [01:38] unfortunately e2fsck didn't work :( [01:38] `6og, i have a via epia system, and amd athlon xp 2400+, an pentium d and a core 2 duo [01:39] rockprincess, did you try it with -b 8139 option? [01:39] <`6og> rockprincess, :S [01:39] `6og, i have no space for alternative stuff and not realy time to play with it [01:39] <`6og> juliux, just the 4? cool :) [01:39] juliux: yep.... root@rosasgasse: e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda7 [01:39] <`6og> i understand the problem *g* [01:40] juliux: it says e2fsck: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hda7 [01:40] `6og, but if i get a job this summer i will buy a xeon dual for xen;) [01:40] rockprincess, sounds not good [01:40] rockprincess, did you e2fsck in the maintance shell? [01:41] <`6og> rockprincess, can you pastebin dmesg (or email it to us/me)? [01:41] juliux: yep, after hitting CTRL+D then it booted edubuntu [01:41] <`6og> dmesg |mail -s "dmesg output from `hostname`" karl@thehut.org.au [01:41] `6og: sure [01:41] rockprincess, so you try to run e2fsck bevor pressing crlt +d [01:41] juliux: indeed [01:42] rockprincess, hmm [01:42] `6og: what shall insert for hostname? [01:42] <`6og> rockprincess, shell should do it for you [01:43] <`6og> if i got that right ;) [01:43] rockprincess, you also can try to do it from a livecd [01:43] rockprincess, because then is nothing running from the local harddisk [01:43] it worked really fine before installing ubuntu studio (which obviously uses a different kernel version) [01:43] rockprincess, did you try to boot another kernel? [01:44] juliux: booted it with knoppix and it worked fine....and then booted this hd (hda) from my other pc with its kubuntu and it worked fine as well [01:44] rockprincess, did you also try to use an other kernel? did you run e2fsck from a livecd? [01:46] juliux: nope, haven't tried neither of them....these are the ubuntu studio kernels kernel 2.6.20-15-lowlatency and kernel 2.6.20-15-generic...and then there are the usual edubuntu edgy kernels 2.6.17-11-386 and 2.6.17-10-386 [01:46] rockprincess, try the normal edgy kernel [01:47] rockprincess, it he ubuntustudio kernel are some flags set which are not set in a normal kernel [01:47] i've tried the 2.6.17-11-386 one [01:47] juliux: shall i try the 2.6.17-10-386 one now? [01:48] so you allready tried an other kernel;) [01:48] juliux: ahh, so it this (ubuntustudio kernel) the root of all evil? ;) [01:48] rockprincess, could be [01:48] i havent tested ubuntustudio [01:48] but i think it is good to use an not ubuntustudio kernel [01:49] juliux: i haven't tried it with 2.6.17-10-386 yet... [01:49] it that the old edgy kernel? [01:49] i assume [01:49] you can give it a try [01:51] will give it a try, if that fails then I'll try e2fsck once again...if that fails as well, then I will just remove the hda disk and just burn the important data on a cd or dvd.... [01:52] i really shouldn't have installed ubuntu studio....i regret it now... [01:53] in the future use vmware for testing;) [01:53] true, good idea! [01:53] or use an extra pc for testing === jinty [n=jinty@54.Red-83-56-139.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw [n=paul@pool223.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === aze [n=aze@208.78.52.239] has joined #edubuntu === iTurtle [n=iTurtle@c-71-203-10-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:30] How can I convince my school to use edubuntu? === iTurtle [n=iTurtle@c-71-203-10-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has left #edubuntu [] === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:38] ogra: ping [03:38] sbalneav, pongie [03:38] hey [03:38] yes i know nbd is broken :((( [03:39] fiddling with it the whole day already [03:39] lol [03:39] it seems to not run by inetd anymore [03:39] no, I filed a bug [03:39] It's like, horribly broken. [03:39] but if i run it as standalone we miss out the keepalive stuff [03:39] no, it works fine standalone [03:39] right [03:40] Running it standalone isn't,IMHO, a good options. [03:40] upstream broke it. [03:40] if they would have a proper keepalive option i'D use it like that [03:40] but they dont [03:40] We have two options, as I see it: [03:40] 1) Revert from 2.9.3 to 2.8.mumble. [03:40] 2.7 [03:40] yeah [03:41] or 2) fix it ourselves, properly. [03:41] err, no [03:41] 2.8 was right [03:41] ok [03:41] well [03:41] Which do you prefer? [03:41] if i would find why its not starting i'D ficx it [03:41] its not very verbose [03:41] I know why. [03:41] tell me [03:41] they've literally #if 0'd that part of the flipping code out! [03:42] for port=0 ? [03:42] he seems to have done a fairly major re-write of the code, and I'm just hazarding a guess, but looks like he was simply too (lazy, tired) to fix up that part [03:43] so it's just broken,and commented out. [03:43] is it broken ? [03:43] did you try ? [03:43] yeah [03:43] yeah [03:43] it needs fixing [03:43] meh [03:43] It's certainly within my power to fix: it's not that complicated a program. [03:43] reverting is bad ... [03:44] we'd loose upstream security support [03:44] Well, one supposes the idea would be to send it up to upstream [03:44] yeah [03:44] and say "look, you borked stuff we needed, here's the fix" [03:45] So, should I work on that today? [03:45] if you have an idea about it i'd really appreciate that [03:45] Leave it with me. [03:45] i'm around for an upload [03:46] (somehow need to get tribe2 in shape as well) [03:46] I've got lots of real life stuff to do, but I'll work on it this afternoon and evening. [03:46] Try to have something for you tomorrow [03:46] sigh [03:46] dont put pressure on yourself please [03:46] We really didn't need this complication :) [03:47] nah, really not [03:47] %&%(&^!& upstream :) [03:47] i wouldnt have expected it at all after vagrants praise of wouter ad his improvements the last days [03:47] ok, it's just coding. Got a bit of time before the kids start demanding breakfast, I'll tear into it. [03:47] but to be honest i dont see any improvements [03:47] no [03:48] its just complicating it [03:48] he's done a ton of stuff to parse a ruddy config file you didn't need [03:48] yeah [03:48] the client has a -persist optin now btw [03:48] undocumented [03:49] it will automatically attempt a reconnect if the connection fails [03:49] well, that's sorta useful. [03:49] problem is that unionfs only likes that two or three times ... then i et a bus error [03:49] *get [03:50] else we could work with timeout on the server side and -persist on the client side [03:50] that would give us keepalive from the static nbd-server+ [03:51] Lets fix it properly. We need the inetd start for swapping to work right. [03:51] i.e. create a file, etc. [03:54] where the heck did you file the bug ? i dont find a bugtracker on sf.net === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [03:57] oh, in launchpad [03:57] against nbd-server [03:57] ah. k [03:57] dont care about swapping now ... [03:57] its easier to do modifications for us if we use nbdrootd and nbdswapd [03:58] so i'd like to keep the setup we have ... which means we can keep the file creation in nbdswapd [04:00] right [04:00] So, we just need to fix nbd-server :) [04:00] yeah [04:00] btw your new greeter is awesome [04:00] fixing :) [04:01] which, the one that listens to stdin? [04:01] yeah [04:01] i dont understand why the propmt text is so far off though [04:02] you didnt drop any adjustment for it but its not centered [04:02] You looked at it? I don't have anything in ldm yet to talk to it, but I was quite proud of how quickly I managed to get that working [04:02] hm [04:02] i wonder if it was just a matter of luck that it fitted in my code [04:02] Well, I'll figure it out. [04:02] Some guy on #gtk+ gave me exactly what I needed, then it was easy [04:02] its a trivial one liner to add an adjustment ... i just wonder wh it worked before [04:03] heh [04:03] there's a LOT of things that still confuse me about gtk [04:03] really ? [04:03] I spent 15 minutes with a pad of paper drawing boxes, trying to figure out all the vbox, hbox, vbox2, etc. [04:03] yeah, I'm leaning fast. [04:04] heh, yeah, thats the hard part about gtk [04:04] This is the first time I've ever done any graphics programming. [04:04] I'm not a UI guy :) [04:04] but beyond layout stuff i find it very easy [04:05] One thing I'm getting by working on Ubuntu is an education :) [04:05] heh === andrew____ [n=chatzill@user-12ld7dv.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #edubuntu [04:17] need advice on network setup...I'll have a mix of thin clients, Linux clients (fat), and windows clients...how can I get all of these to authenticate against the same userbase and file system? [04:39] sbalneav, seen my bug update ? [04:39] no [04:39] seems vagrant already filed it for 2.7 [04:39] I'll look [04:40] and it showed up accidentially in 2.8 [04:40] looks like upstream doesnt like inetd [04:40] grmbl === Baby [i=miry@pdpc/supporter/silver/kavi/baby] has joined #edubuntu [04:42] Upstream's gonna have to deal :) [04:43] 'cuz *I* like inetd :) [04:43] heh [04:43] i'd be fine either way ... if nbd-server gets a proper timeout function i'm fine as well [04:44] how you gonna solve swap? [04:44] hmm [04:44] right [04:45] point, sbalneav :) [04:45] well tere are these new virtualization features ... [04:45] lol [04:45] they just miss the file creation [04:46] sigh ... i thought i'd get around doing the lawn ... now the sun comes out === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage prays that it rains in ogra's city [04:47] :) [04:47] it did [04:47] the last two days [04:47] wow, my prayers can time travel [04:47] heh [04:52] ok, gdb's given me some useful info [04:52] think I know where to start [04:52] I'm gonna go cook breakfast for the kids, I'll be on and off today. [04:52] keep you posted. [04:53] bye === Mirrakor [n=michael@p57B2FA22.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@54.Red-83-56-139.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [07:10] grmbl === ogra sends a bug bucket full of hate to nbd upstream === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:47] ogra: Hey, quick question, it's looking like nbd-server's gonna need some major hacking. [07:47] but, it would be much easier to pull out the bits we need, and make an nbd-server-inetd [07:47] standalone package. [07:47] Is this doable/sensible? === ashu18 [n=ashutosh@122.50.173.152] has joined #edubuntu === ashu18 [n=ashutosh@122.50.173.152] has left #edubuntu [] === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [08:15] sbalneav: it would be easier, but not that quick as you'll have to upload it, will be short before Tribe-2 === andrew____ [n=chatzill@user-12ld7dv.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #edubuntu [08:28] need help setting up LDAP...having trouble with some steps in the Ubuntu-provided tutorial [08:28] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAP-Samba_PDC_%28for_Linux_and_Windows%29?highlight=%28ldap%29#head-d4de697d4a73d6fdf483f46974c9c30f4e20f485 [08:29] andrew____: I've set my home LDAP/Samba server long ago (Dapper) using this tutorial, maybe I can help [08:29] andrew____: what's exactly your problem ? [08:31] I'm at the "migrating data" section of the tutorial and the ldapadd commands hav been returning errors [08:31] first it was unhappy with the DN syntax. [08:32] I removed the double quotes around: ldapadd x -D cn=root,dc=yourdomain,dc=edu -W -f /tmp/base.ldif [08:32] your double quotes look strange to me : " is the correct ones [08:32] ldapadd -x -D "cn=andrew,dc=example,dc=net" -W -f /tmp/group.ldif [08:33] Enter LDAP Password: [08:33] adding new entry "cn=root,ou=Group,dc=example,dc=net" [08:33] ldap_add: No such object (32) [08:33] Hmmm...this is what I get for copying from the web... [08:33] let me try that. [08:34] the ones in the second command you pasted seem to be correct, not the one you pasted before my comment [08:35] Now, where it says root, I'm substituting the LDAP administrator's username, correct? [08:37] When I use root, it says "invalid credentials"....when I use "andrew" (root user) it says: [08:37] yes [08:37] adding new entry "cn=root,ou=Group,dc=example,dc=net" [08:37] ldap_add: No such object (32) [08:37] that's the LDAP root account, but it can be something different than root [08:37] it's manager here [08:38] Ok so I have the correct username, but it seems to not like the "object" which I don't understand enough to troubleshoot. [08:38] What's your DC ? [08:39] example.net ? Looks strange to me [08:39] example.net is what I'm using. I'm setting up a test server. [08:39] ok, is the ou Group created ? [08:39] otherwise you may have some problem creating a "root" object inside of it [08:40] I don't know....I've followed all the tutorial steps....how do I create an "ou" [08:42] ldapadd -x -D "cn=admin-account,dc=example,dc=net" -W -f /tmp/group.ldif [08:42] is that what you have run ? [08:42] replacing admin-account by the right value of course [08:45] this is what I'm running, and getting adding new entry "cn=root,ou=Group,dc=example,dc=net" [08:45] ldap_add: No such object (32) [08:45] why is it replacing by admin-account with root? Is this normal? [08:46] I've put admin-account but it can be whatever you want, simply depends on the one you've put in your openldap config [08:47] right, I'm typing "andrew" but in the error it gives back, it says: adding new entry "cn=root,ou=Group,dc=example,dc=net" [08:47] ldap_add: No such object (32) [08:48] http://www.openldap.org/faq/data/cache/157.html [08:48] Looking at google I get that [08:49] (sorry, the wiki page was completely different when I did my home install, so looking at how it's done here doesn't help me much) [08:52] well, doing ldapsearch for the domain isn't working... [08:53] ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Invalid credentials (49) [08:53] additional info: SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database [08:56] Seems like you have a problem with your user [08:56] In one of the .conf files? [08:57] check the rootdn and rootpw in your /etc/ldap/slapd.conf [08:58] rootdn "cn=andrew,dc=example,dc=net" [08:58] rootpw {MD5}i6BhjLzBnwRu1ky1g36bEg== [09:00] hmm, so : ldapsearch -b 'dc=example,dc=net' -s base '(objectclass=*)' should work ... [09:00] do I need to be operating in the shell as andrew...I'm logged in at root [09:01] doesn't work when I'm logged in as andrew either... [09:04] andrew____: I'm affraid I'm not really able to help you on that one :( [09:04] you may want to join #ubuntu-server [09:04] maybe you'll see a LDAP pro there [09:04] Ok thanks for your great effort! [09:04] no problem, sorry it didn't help you much ... [09:09] andrew____: still stuck with ldap? [09:09] lets see if we can get you going === pauljw_ [n=paul@pool124.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [09:13] Yes, stuck for about a week now. [09:13] so the ldap server is installed and up? [09:14] yes, I believe so. How can I easily test? [09:14] It restarts fine. [09:14] And slaptest succeeds [09:14] ok [09:14] where are you getting stuck at [09:14] ? [09:15] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAP-Samba_PDC_%28for_Linux_and_Windows%29?highlight=%28ldap%29#head-e21d7c98123fe571e292f75cec4e6ba77d97b8cf [09:15] migrating data [09:16] do you need samba? [09:16] ie: do you have Windows clients? [09:17]