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I really DIDN'T want to hurt you === huahua [n=huahua@60.20.49.127] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t_ [n=tobias@p54A70BAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-195.200.popsite.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [04:50] why dont we install samba by default? [04:51] Because it's only needed for compatibility with legacy operating systems. [04:51] define legacy OS's? [04:51] Windows [04:52] That's be my guess anyway [04:52] right, yeah, but it's still used enough [04:52] Windows used? You're sure? === ScottK actually thinks a "Windows out of the box network compatibilty" spec would be a good one for someone (not me) to do. [04:53] Tm_T: Samba implements the SMB protocol which is what Windows networking uses. [04:53] ScottK: you didn't get my sarcasm, btw "Windows" without version is too generalising, so that's false [04:53] Ah. Sorry [04:54] OK. === ScottK thinks of all WIndows OS versions as legacy. [04:54] like, I have laptop with Windows, and it doesn't support samba [04:54] ScottK: like, zeroconf? [04:54] actually, it doesn't support any reasonable networking except serial modem [04:56] Hobbsee: Dunno exactly. I don't do any Windows networking so I don't pay attention exactly. I associate the word zeroconf with a horribly broken thing that Novell shoved into opensuse 10.1 and is the reason I'm a Kubunt user. [04:57] I do know that works out of the box in Windows dominated networks would be a good thing for deployment even if I don't need it. === cynics [n=cynics@123.116.102.157] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:06] Hobbsee: Any interest in trying out those shiny new core-dev powers? Bug #41302... [05:06] Launchpad bug 41302 in postfix "resolvconf update-libc error" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41302 === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-67-143.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:38] ScottK: you werent goign to push that thru to debian? [05:39] Hobbsee: I figured I'd get them approved here first and then if Ubuntu thought it was good, I'd send the patches to Debian. [05:39] ScottK: right === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:40] ScottK: may as well send it in both directions, then they can decide themselves === ScottK has a pile of python-scipy patches I need to send too. [05:41] Also one of the postfix bugs was just reported and every now and then I like to do the open source "Bug fixed in 1 day" thing. I think it helps keep interest up among the people that report. [05:42] ScottK: uploaded. just check that the changelogs *do* autoclose, please [05:42] Hobbsee: WIll do. [05:42] Hobbsee: Thanks. [05:42] :) no problem === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal kicks lp === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.113.110] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:01] hey, bug 121682 needs an ack or an upload, kthxbye [06:02] err, never mind, I just noticed the ack [06:02] kthxbye [06:02] :) [06:03] hehe [06:04] when some acks a sync request, how does that work exactly? is it manually or automagically sync'd? [06:04] I need my own Ubuntu package to maintain [06:05] my very own, like noPONY4u [06:05] lol === Jucato wonders if Hobbsee saw that [06:05] noPONY~4u-0ubuntu1 [06:06] my copyright file would read "as long as you aren't Microsoft, you can do whatever you wish with this file...if you are Microsoft than HAHAHAHAHA YOUSUCK!" [06:07] haha, or HAHAHAH NOPONY~4u === nixternal puts the glue away [06:07] lol [06:08] nixternal: if you put empty bottles away, that doesn't help much [06:08] how about Apple? Linspire? Xandros? :P [06:08] except you won't hurt yourself with it then [06:08] Jucato: they can use, just not Microsoft [06:09] nixternal: why's that? [06:09] because I said so? [06:09] wel, I sorta asked why you say so [06:09] hehhe [06:09] I would strike a patent deal with MS, although they probably wouldn't like it [06:10] you would? O.o [06:10] man, BarCamp tomorrow :/ === Jucato can't believe hearing that from nixternal... [06:10] ya, I would love to get ballmer and the rest of his lawyers in a room and then....... [06:10] BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!! [06:10] lol! [06:10] nixternal: tell that there's no chairs? [06:10] that I can stomach :) [06:11] nixternal: I prefer fruit basket [06:12] hehe [06:12] nixternal: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070617 [06:12] "I still sit on it" hah [06:13] hahhahahaha [06:13] see, fruit basket [06:15] hehehe :) [06:15] that is great [06:16] (nice site too) [06:17] http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20040404 <--- very nice :) [06:17] nixternal: it's manually synced, later [06:18] nixternal: haha. noPONY4u would be a fun package [06:18] Jucato: nice date indeed [06:18] Tm_T: yeah. clicking on "Random" sure is fun :) [06:18] yup [06:18] though reading thru is more fun [06:19] (I mean all of them) === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cynics_ [n=cynics@123.116.102.157] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db443a5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@N731P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db443a5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aplg [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:08] good morning === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-254-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@82.113.121.1] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@82.153.8.93] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jonasp [i=jonas@i59F75ADC.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [i=michael@conference/debconf/x-dad8d2c7cd020388] has joined #kubuntu-devel === IanC26 [n=IanC26@2002:908b:a597:4:216:6fff:fe39:ff6e] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:44] any .desktop file wizard around? === mbiebl [i=michael@conference/debconf/x-dd85321c4b66251a] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=mars@ubuntu/member/marseillai] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [i=michael@conference/debconf/x-00fa7b5abdca6444] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meven [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-133-59.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meven_ [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-98-34.w90-31.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F04E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387ED02.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-057-203.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [i=michael@conference/debconf/x-85b3d67b6d43f68e] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aplg is now known as apachelogger === Zerlinna [n=mirjam@C6e2e.c.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@N907P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:48] mhb: persia === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:53] Hobbsee: eh? [01:53] mhb: desktop file wizard [01:53] s/wizard/whizz/ [01:55] Hobbsee: ah === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:55] Hobbsee: well, does he do KDE? [01:56] mhb: sure [01:56] hi Nightrose [01:56] hey Hobbsee ;-) [01:56] :) [01:56] did you get that package reviewed, btw? [01:56] yep *g* [01:58] and your exam? [01:58] urgh. wasnt *too* evil. the one on monday will be worse [01:58] uni just isnt interesting enough, compared to ubuntu. it's troublesome. [01:58] hehe I know === nosrednaeki1 [n=michael@05-036.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:15] hi nosrednaeki1 [02:16] hmmm IDK what happened to my name [02:16] hello === nosrednaeki1 [n=michael@05-036.200.popsite.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === nosrednaekim [n=michael@05-036.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:21] thats better [02:21] so whats up Hobbsee [02:23] nosrednaekim: work is over. hooray. the boss actually pays attention to the emergency clal, which is good [02:25] thats nice. [02:26] yeah, rather [02:27] anyone tried Klash? [02:27] heh mhb, I found out that I was born a week to late to be considered for the google SoC next year :( [02:28] the Konqueror Free Flash Plugin [02:28] mhb: gnash with a K ? [02:29] fdoving: heh, yeah [02:29] mhb: gnash worked on powerpc, to play youtube things. === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387ED02.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:29] now i'm back on x86, so i don't use it anymore. [02:30] fdoving: there's a spec for having free flash in Ubuntu [02:30] fdoving: and there is a klash/ subdir of gnash, which should contain a Konqueror plugin [02:31] klash is in universe. [02:31] is it? [02:31] apt-cache search gnash [02:31] multiple options. [02:32] I see [02:32] not sure which one worked for me, i think klash didn't.. but it's a while ago. [02:32] klash doesnt work very well for me === nosrednaekim [n=michael@05-036.200.popsite.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@84.151.79.166] has joined #kubuntu-devel === shely [n=huahua@60.20.49.127] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.78.227] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:32] does anybody use adept with a german locale, trying to triage bug 92883? [04:32] Launchpad bug 92883 in adept "Part of the interface of adapt is not shown in German" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92883 === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.194.233] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@05-036.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [i=michael@conference/debconf/x-7e858a7f8acc79aa] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@72-255-10-233.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:11] morning [05:12] hiya [05:12] how are you Hobbsee? [05:12] jjesse: coping :) [05:12] jjesse: exams and such :( [05:12] jjesse: and so much i want to do for kubuntu as well - and i'm procrastinating [05:12] but there's tribe 2 soon, which will be fun :) [05:12] yay for tribe 2 === Hobbsee bounces [05:12] i'm so glad i'm done w/ university [05:12] oi oi [05:13] i keep thinking about going back to get my master's but then i think better [05:13] hello nixternal how's vista today? [05:13] broken? [05:13] trojanized? [05:13] :) === nosrednaekim thinks he'll try tribe 2 [05:14] nosrednaekim: has tribe-1 completly updatede running in a vm [05:14] Hobbsee: english is fun [05:14] mhb: hm? [05:14] I want it to test out with my hardware... [05:15] vm's are cheating === nixternal has it running flat out on my lappy [05:15] Hobbsee: for example, I never know which one of the words (procrastination, procreation) means what === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:17] mhb: ahhh. right, yes. couldnt see how it was relevant before [05:17] mhb: procrastination == putting things off. [05:18] Hobbsee: yeah, at least the context helps [05:18] aaanyway [05:19] procrastination == what Jucato is best at :) [05:19] mhb: i believe dict is useful [05:26] aaaaanyway [05:26] would you people prefer a standalone restricted manager or a systemsettings restricted manager? [05:27] now there's a good question [05:27] when does it get called? [05:27] systemsettings would require integrating it into guidance wouldn't it? [05:27] one that could be integrated with the proper apps.. probably Adept... [05:27] mhb: is this for installing the restricted extras, or for installing video card support, etc? [05:28] Hobbsee: restricted-manager is for non-free drivers & stuff [05:28] hm... good question... is the restricted manager sort of split into parts? I mean can we put the one for videos in kde-guidance? [05:28] Hobbsee: like firmware === Jucato thinks real hard... [05:29] installing codecs is another story, not handled by me [05:29] mhb: right. i think i have an open page about it, which i havent read yet. [05:29] hm... what does the "& stuff" cover? [05:29] mhb: i would suspect separately, but i'm not sure. guidance may well be a good place to put it [05:30] yes, if the restricted manager for drivers is a separate program, it would probably be best to somehow make it work with guidance... but probably not hard coded into guidance? === Jucato is trying to envision guidance eventually making it into kdebase... [05:30] (upstream) [05:31] should bug 121456 be milestoned for tribe 2? [05:31] Launchpad bug 121456 in adept "Adept couldn't open APT database" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121456 [05:32] adept appears to be unusably broken === Jucato adds "more than usual" to that sentence [05:32] Jucato: :) [05:33] Jucato: firmware [05:33] however, the question remains, milestone? [05:33] Jucato: restricted-manager is for drivers only [05:34] Arby: ( you're gonna fix it ? milestone : not sure) [05:34] mhb: ah ok. then I think systemsettings would be the place for it. maybe even a separate control module? :) [05:34] mhb: I'm not capable of fixing it :) [05:34] but adept is unusable as it stands [05:35] Arby: you can read my opinion in that if;then;else statement then [05:37] mhb: fair enough. [05:37] IMHO it should be a milestone but I don't have the skills to do it so I'll leave it. === apachelogger [n=me@193.170.67.43] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:38] hi [05:39] Arby: requires someone interested in fixing it, too [05:39] hiya marseillai [05:39] if anyone has time i've two package to revu : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5711 a big update for smplayer and http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5710 and update of kima wich resolve a bug wich makes crash kicker on debian system [05:39] Arby: that looks local [05:40] Hobbsee: Really? I don't see what you mean. [05:41] Arby: what happens when you do "apt-get clean"? [05:42] hang on I'll check [05:43] Hobbsee: the error is still the same after running apt-get clean [05:43] Arby: i'm not convinced it's milestone-worthy, as it looks like a local problem. [05:43] which error? [05:43] Arby: ie, what's the exact error? [05:43] could not open cache [05:44] Arby: does it say anything about the lock? [05:44] oh right, is ee. [05:44] as in josephb comment on the report [05:44] that's....okay, that's a rpblem [05:44] no mention of any locks [05:45] yes, yes it is :) [05:45] incidentally 'sudo apt-setup' returns command not found [05:45] use apt-cache saerch apt setup for it [05:46] looking === Hobbsee milestones, marks as critical [05:47] :) [05:47] (you need to be in ~ubuntu-dev to be able to milestone, and part of ~ubuntu-release to approve/decline) [05:48] Hobbsee: ah, didn't know that [05:48] no problem. it's not well known [05:48] also, apt-setup doesn't seem to exist [05:49] apt-cache search apt-setup returns no results [05:51] right [05:51] then i have no idea what it refers to - man apt may bring up something [05:51] Hobbsee: there is this in debian http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/apt-setup [05:52] but no equvalent that I can find in kubuntu [05:53] oh neat. found a laucnhpad bug. [05:54] Hobbsee: where? [05:54] Arby: it thinks triaged is a closed state. [05:55] hehe, whoops. === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:55] yeah. classy. [05:55] Hobbsee: do you think I should file a bug against that adept dialogue [05:56] it's misleading at best and plain wrong at worst [05:56] Hobbsee: "triaged" means "no need to post other details, all is there", right? [05:56] mhb: yes [05:57] I'm not an Adept developer, but I must say bug 121456 doesn't look triaged at all to me :o) [05:57] Launchpad bug 121456 in adept "Adept couldn't open APT database" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121456 [05:58] mhb: pretty much. m eans "ready for fixing" [05:58] mhb: this is true - but it's fairly easy to check [05:58] as in, it's got enough info for a dev to start working on it [05:59] if you can suggest what to do to gather more info I'm happy to try it [05:59] i dont develop adept [05:59] you'll have to wait for manchicken_ or Riddell over that one [06:00] Hobbsee: fair enough === meven [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-40-35.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:05] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/47455/comments/8 is interesting [06:05] Launchpad bug 47455 in kdebase "KDM detected memory corruption" [High,Confirmed] === Hobbsee tribe-3 milestones it, so it doesnt get lost. === nosrednaekim [n=michael@05-036.200.popsite.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@p54974FA6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:24] Arby: can you confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/119408 ? [06:24] Launchpad bug 119408 in kde-guidance "[gutsy] kde-guidance power manager causes screen to turn off" [Undecided,New] [06:24] looking [06:25] Hobbsee: no I can't reporduce that either [06:26] *reproduce [06:26] Arby: right. want to mention that on the bug report please? [06:26] sure [06:26] will need to poke bdmurray about that [06:26] thanks [06:26] mark it as incomplete too, please [06:28] done [06:28] thanks very much :) === meven [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-40-35.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:40] is anybody able to confirm bug 115457? [06:40] Launchpad bug 115457 in adept "Adept installer crashed in Kubuntu7.04 installing Thunderbird" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115457 === cmvo [n=cmvo@ex4.73a.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xRaich[o] 2x [n=raichoo@i5387ED02.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:51] Arby: The real question is bug or feature? ;-) [06:51] ScottK: hehe, true [06:51] fix released: use kmail :) [06:53] ScottK: what's your opinion, I'm inclined to squash it (insufficient info)? === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:02] Arby: I'll have a look [07:03] Riddell: apachelogger asked me to ping you about the article for amarok 1.4.6 on the dot - I just posted it [07:05] Arby: I'd leave it for another week or two and mark it invalid if the reporter doesn't respond. [07:05] ScottK: OK thanks === freeflying [n=freeflyi@123.116.102.157] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@05-036.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meven_ [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-172-226.w90-32.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p549663FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db443a5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stivani [n=stivani@dD576DDEB.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elcuco [n=elcuco@bzq-88-155-119-216.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-062-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger [n=me@193.170.67.43] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@05-036.200.popsite.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-022-238.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@72-255-10-233.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:10] anyone with thinkpad around? [08:12] not me unless you count the old (1998) 770 I have :) === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:30] apachelogger: I have one [08:31] Jannex: can you try a kopete plugin which is flashing the light when a message comes in? [08:32] apachelogger: Sure, in a moment === manchicken__ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:45] Jannex: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/kopete-thinklight/kopete-thinklight_0.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb [08:45] it should automatically set proper permissions for the proc file to access the light [08:46] that's new in 0.3 and I'm not entirely sure whether this works as supposed === apachelogger is grabbing a cofffee [08:46] -f [08:46] ;-) === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db443a5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nosrednaekim [n=michael@05-036.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F04E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-132-077.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:13] hi ryan [10:13] RadiantFire: ^^ [10:13] hey mhb [10:15] how goes it? [10:17] RadiantFire: well, I'm kind of stuck [10:17] RadiantFire: gdebi-kde has to be merged first and I haven't started restricted-manager yet [10:18] RadiantFire: so I'm probably ready for some kdesudo action :o) === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pdenapo [i=pablo@201.255.22.146] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:22] Hi [10:22] I'm trying to make my own kubuntu live cd [10:22] for mathematics [10:23] can I remove the "bin" or the "pool" directory from the live CD for making room for other things? [10:23] I don't need win32 applications [10:24] and why there are some .deb packages that are not in the the compressed (squashfs) filesystem? [10:26] join /ubuntu-iso === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:42] hello again mhb [10:44] RadiantFire: hello again to you [10:44] I think I finally got everything working again. I had a tiny UPS that decided to fry this morning [10:45] RadiantFire: could I ask you for something? [10:45] sure [10:45] RadiantFire: could you please create a new file for your sudo endeavours? [10:45] you can always ask ;-) [10:46] ok [10:46] RadiantFire: so sudoprocess.cpp will be for using ptyprocess, whereas someothersudoprocess.cpp will be for reimplementing ptyprocess, which you tried to do, I gues [10:46] s [10:46] this can be arranged [10:47] thanks so much === Arby_ [n=richard@82.153.8.93] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:49] i hate to reinvent the wheel, but the end goal is to give me enough of an understanding to figure out why the other way isn't working === Arby_ is now known as Arby === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:56] RadiantFire: no problem, poke me once you commit a new file, so I can keep my changes in the old one [10:57] sure, just shuffling them around now [11:10] RadiantFire: done, do bzr up [11:10] sorry, didn't mean to clobber that file, I was just using it to get a hang for how the PtyProcess works [11:10] er, how pty's work anyway [11:11] no problem [11:18] mhb: so, I have made the library implementation of pty process do what I want :-) [11:20] RadiantFire: mmm, my sudoprocess.cpp gets linked in with you ptyprocess implementation [11:20] RadiantFire: => ld error [11:20] sorry, I'm done with it [11:20] just get rid of the main [11:20] actually [11:20] I'll get rid of the main [11:21] RadiantFire: did you find out how to make sudo report to the same pty? [11:21] I'm still working on that [11:21] but I have a grasp of pty now, so I don't need the PtyProcess anymore [11:22] was just using it to test out some ideas, get a handle on how it worked [11:22] I'm actually off to dinner with the uncle, but I'll bbl, and tackle that problem === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel