[12:14] <smylanakis> sorry but this came up after writing sudo nvidia-settings
[12:14] <smylanakis> ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display.
[12:14] <smylanakis> ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA GPUs on ':0.0'.
[12:14] <smylanakis> ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA Frame Lock Devices on ':0.0'.
[12:14] <smylanakis> ERROR: Unable to determine number of NVIDIA VCSCs on ':0.0'.
[12:14] <smylanakis> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[12:14] <jzilla> !pastebin
[12:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:14] <smylanakis>   Major opcode:  144
[12:14] <ml> hi
[12:14] <smylanakis>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:14] <smylanakis>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:14] <smylanakis> Failed to open device
[12:15] <smylanakis> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[12:15] <smylanakis>   Major opcode:  144
[12:15] <smylanakis>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:15] <smylanakis>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:15] <smylanakis> Failed to open device
[12:15] <smylanakis> any idea ?
[12:15] <smylanakis> any idea guys please?
[12:15] <crdlb> !baddevice | smylanakis
[12:15] <smylanakis> ???
[12:15] <ubotu> smylanakis: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[12:16] <smylanakis> thank you !!!
[12:17] <smylanakis> rror: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[12:17] <smylanakis> it wasn't 168 actually.. lol.. is that ok ?
[12:19] <nosrednaekim> http://tech.cybernetnews.com/2007/06/22/why-ubuntu-was-on-the-windows-marketplace/
[12:21] <Novell> hi, how can I change the size of the icons in kmenu, they are way to large for my taste (22px) atm, I want them to be 16px
[12:21] <jzilla> PhinnFort: Thank you. Mission Acomplished.
[12:31] <RawSewage> Novell, Its in the Icons thing in Appearances
[12:31] <RawSewage> in the Advanced tab
[12:39] <nosrednaekim> hey, I have a swap partition, but kubuntu isn't using it. How do I "mount" it
[12:39] <nosrednaekim> permanantly.,I know how to do swap on, etc
[12:40] <rami> test
[12:41] <NickPresta> nosrednaekim, how do you know the swap partition isn't in use?
[12:42] <Novell> RawSewage: I've set 16 for everything but desktop and panel (which can't be changed) and also All Icons which cna't be changed either
[12:42] <Novell> RawSewage: still didn't work
[12:42] <Novell> (and restarted kicker too)
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta: I fixed it.... but it showed now swap in "free"
[12:42] <RawSewage> Novell, maybe restart X.  idk
[12:42] <NickPresta> nosrednaekim, okay. What was the problem?
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta: wasn't in my fstab
[12:43] <Novell> RawSewage: a dcop kicker default restart should be enough ?
[12:43] <NickPresta> nosrednaekim, oh okay.
[12:43] <RawSewage> Novell,  I guess.  you might as well try it though
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta: added it in the partition editor in guidance.
[12:44] <vlad88> it's normal that Kubuntu takes almost all the RAM (I have 768MB)
[12:44] <vlad88> (and it's only 90MB free)
[12:45] <vlad88> ?
[12:45] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: yes, its caching most of that probably
[12:45] <NickPresta> vlad88, in  console, type: `free -m` and see where your memory is being used. It's possible a lot is cached or in the buffers which means it isn't really "used up".
[12:45] <Novell> vlad88: most of the RAM is probably not _used_ how you think it is used
[12:45] <Novell> vlad88: there are buffers and caches
[12:46] <vlad88> lets see...
[12:46] <vlad88> it's this ok then: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26814/
[12:47] <PhinnFort> vlad88: dmesg | grep swap
[12:48] <NickPresta> vlad88, out of your 693MB of RAM, almost 400 MB is cached or buffered which means it's readily available when the system needs it. You're only really using 226MB of RAM.
[12:48] <PhinnFort> vlad88: and the kernel automatically uses as much ram as possible
[12:48] <PhinnFort> it also keeps some pages in duplicate in ram and on swap, so it can be swapped in/out quicker
[12:48] <vlad88> [   42.580736]  Adding 457812k swap on /dev/disk/by-uuid/15668423-eef3-445c-be0c-77c8ef9fecae.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:457812k
[12:48] <vlad88> nice, that makes sense
[12:49] <vlad88> so Kubuntu is really taking just 226MB of RAM??? that's pretty low for a nice system
[12:50] <PhinnFort> kdelibs takes most of it, probably, and then that is re-used in almost all the desktop apps
[12:51] <vlad88> cached is like "reserved" by an app?
[12:51] <NickPresta> for comparison, my system is only using 280MB of RAM and I have Beryl running, pidgin, Firefox, Konsole, and XChat.
[12:52] <vlad88> :o
[12:52] <vlad88> you have a total of ram of??
[12:52] <Novell> vlad88: no, not reserved..
[12:52] <Novell> vlad88: it can be files you've opened
[12:52] <NickPresta> vlad88, I have 2GB of RAM with 2GB of swap. I rarely have to use my swap partition...
[12:53] <vlad88> O.O
[12:53] <vlad88> oh
[12:53] <vlad88> Novell -> so files are kind of copied into memory for faster access?
[12:54] <Novell> vlad88: yes
[12:54] <voidmage> How can I search through images by aspect ratio, such as to find all 16:10 images?
[12:54] <Novell> can be regular files, libs or applications you've used
[12:54] <Novell> or anything else
[12:55] <vlad88> nice system, I think that will save my hard drive a little also.
[12:55] <vlad88> but I wonder why it's using Swap even if the total memory is not being used?
[12:56] <Novell> because by default it will swap some stuff if it isn't regulary used
[12:56] <Novell> you can turn down swappiness in /proc/sys/vm/ though
[12:56] <vlad88> does that has any perfomance improvement?
[12:56] <Novell> or it can be some application memory not used in a while
[12:57] <underdog5004> vlad88, not really...it just eats up ram faster
[12:57] <Novell> it frees up more memory for other stuff
[12:57] <underdog5004> more swap, right, novell?
[12:58] <vlad88> umm, better I let it that way, sounds better that the system dumps the less used memory to disk
[12:58] <voidmage> How can I search through images by aspect ratio, such as to find all 16:10 images?
[12:59] <Gerrit> voidmage: depends on the tools
[12:59] <voidmage> Gerrit: what I'm trying to do is go through a bunch of wallpapers and find the 16:10 ones
[12:59] <Gerrit> I will need to carry it with me for two more years, to Wrzburg and Kiruna and beyond.
[12:59] <Novell> Gerrit: I live in Kiruna ;)
[01:00] <Gerrit> voidmage: I know how I would personally solve it, but I guess you are looking for an application.
[01:00] <Gerrit> Novell: I know :). I am a.k.a. Arsanerit.
[01:00] <Novell> ahh
[01:00] <Novell> didn't know that, hee
[01:00] <Novell> *hehe
[01:00] <Gerrit> Is it sunny up there?
[01:00] <voidmage> gerrit: I could go either way, a script or an app would be fine
[01:00] <Novell> we've had sun and some rain today
[01:00] <Novell> clear skies atm though
[01:00] <Gerrit> voidmage: Well, with a script, you could use tools such as ImageMagick or exiv2.
[01:01] <Gerrit> identify <filename>
[01:01] <Gerrit> exiv2 -p v <filename>
[01:01] <Gerrit> and some subsequent calculations
[01:01] <Gerrit> in your favourite scripting language
[01:01] <Gerrit> but perhaps someone has already done it
[01:02] <Gerrit> Novell: Nice :) I will probably move to Kiruna around 18 February.
[01:02] <Gerrit> Winter :)
[01:02] <Gerrit> I need to sleep now.
[01:02] <Gerrit> Gooding.ht
[01:02] <Novell> Gerrit: ah, heh, the coldest month too :P
[01:02] <Novell> night Gerrit
[01:03] <vlad88> good night Gerrit
[01:06] <smylanakis> well.. i went system settings - monitor and display and then changed the nv to nvidia wherever needed
[01:06] <smylanakis> but know
[01:06] <smylanakis> the resolution is even worse
[01:07] <smylanakis> 640 *480...
[01:07] <smylanakis> what is wrong with this machine and kubuntu ?
[01:07] <underdog5004> I'm trying to get rtorrent to seed from one directory, and download/upload to/from another directory. Does  anybody know how to do this?
[01:08] <smylanakis>  :D
[01:08] <smylanakis> anybody please?
[01:08] <Pupeno> When using CRM from Kmail I get this error:  Couldn't open the file:  mailreaver.crm. Any ideas how to solve it?
[01:08] <vlad88> underdog5004 -> why not better you use Azureus?
[01:09] <Arwen> vlad88, Azureus uses 100+MB RAM? lol
[01:09] <vlad88> :D
[01:09] <underdog5004> vlad88, ummm, 1. because azureus doesn't support that 2. my bt client is running on a headless server, and 3. I don't like azureus
[01:09] <vlad88> oh
[01:10] <underdog5004> yuck
[01:10] <vlad88> lol
[01:22] <jzilla> When I log into a TTY, im presented with a "motd" type message claiming kubuntu comes with no warenty and whatnot, where can I change what it says?
[01:23] <shane2peru> what is the reccommended program in Kubuntu for format a partition?
[01:32] <neoncode> I'm trying to run berly(that has worked before) and I get this error:
[01:32] <neoncode> beryl: Another window manager is already running on screen: 0
[01:32] <neoncode> beryl: No manageable screens found on display :0.0
[01:33] <neoncode> Can anyone help?
[01:33] <neoncode> *beryl
[01:33] <underdog5004> neoncode, I believe there is an irc channel just for that
[01:33] <underdog5004> #beryl
[01:33] <neoncode> underdog5004: Sorry, didn't know there was one
[01:33] <underdog5004> not sure about the server though...go to www.berylproject.com for more info
[01:33] <underdog5004> np
[01:33] <neoncode> Thanks underdog5004
[01:33] <underdog5004> lol, np
[01:34] <athena> neoncode, --replace
[01:34] <neoncode> athena: Nope, just tried that
[01:36] <jzilla> Is there a way to stop the standard "login" screen from comming up? Basicly I want to be dropped to a console and login from there and use "startx"
[01:36] <athena> neoncode, are you running Xgl?
[01:37] <neoncode> athena: I don't think so. I'm useing the binary nVidia drivers, so I think i'm useing AIGLX...
[01:37] <athena> hmm
[01:37] <athena> #beryl could help you more though
[01:40] <neoncode> athena: I asked, no-one is respoding. I'll wait and see if anyone does. In the meantime. It might be haveing berly and Compiz Fusion on the same system that's the problem....
[01:40] <athena> na... but, I'm out of ideas, beryl isn't my area of expertise either
[01:41] <neoncode> Well, uninstalling both and re-installing Compiz isn't likely to break anything more than it allready is.
[01:41] <neoncode> prehaps it's somethign I changed when i followed the guide to build KDE4 from SVN? (I'm in KDE 3 now however)
[01:46] <jzilla> Is it possible to not use kdm to login?
[01:47] <anon32> um, yes, install gdm or xdm
[01:47] <Darkrift411> is kde4 even useable?
[01:47] <[Al] chemist_ex> no
[01:47] <Darkrift411> didnt think so
[01:47] <anon32> Darkrift411, well, depends on your POV
[01:47] <Darkrift411> read yesterday that it wasnt even previewable
[01:47] <anon32> from an end-user POV, probably not
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> maybe i'm missing it somewhere, but how do you configure where to save my mailbox in kmail?
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> I want it in /home/me/Mail
[02:05] <[ifroog] > Hirvinen_, when i download a 4.3 gb dvd from http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/kubuntu/feisty/release/kubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.iso i get..
[02:05] <[ifroog] > Length: 322,842,624 (308M) [application/x-iso9660-image] 
[02:05] <[ifroog] > with wget..
[02:05] <[ifroog] > ???
[02:07] <vlad88> 4,617,809,920 (4.3G) [application/x-iso9660-image] 
[02:07] <vlad88> maybe your wget is outdated
[02:08] <[ifroog] > oh.. 1.10.2-2ubuntu1 here
[02:10] <vlad88> vlad@auroserver1:~$ wget --version
[02:10] <vlad88> GNU Wget 1.10.2
[02:10] <vlad88> I think it's the same...
[02:10] <[ifroog] > huh :( why so here ?
[02:11] <vlad88> :\ have you tried several times?
[02:11] <[ifroog] > yeah
[02:11] <vlad88> why don't you do it with a download manager?
[02:11] <vlad88> maybe you will need "resume" support
[02:11] <[ifroog] > any other wget command like alternative ?
[02:12] <[ifroog] > yes, i added the -c
[02:13] <Darkrift411> anyone know how to set it so that clicking a link in firefox selects the whole link? i read a page a while ago that said there was a cmd to do that
[02:16] <vlad88> [ifroog]  -> maybe that size is the remaing?, why don't just let it download to see what happen?
[02:16] <vlad88> Darkrift411 -> a Text link?
[02:17] <Darkrift411> in firefox, in the address bar, when you click it, it doesnt auto select the whole url like it does on windows (yes, another win feature i miss)
[02:17] <Darkrift411> so you dont have to click at the end and drag to select the url
[02:18] <[ifroog] > vprints, well, its when i start downloading..
[02:18] <canen> Darkrift411: double clicking does that
[02:18] <[ifroog] > alright.. i will download and see what happens..
[02:19] <vlad88> Darkrift411 -> FF 2.0.0.4 here, and yes, dbl click does that here...
[02:19] <Darkrift411> i have to triple click
[02:19] <Darkrift411> i have to click it once to select it
[02:19] <Darkrift411> and then double click
[02:19] <Darkrift411> and if my timing is wrong, i have to start over
[02:20] <canen> Darkrift411: Ctrl+L should also automatically select the entire contents of the address bar
[02:20] <Darkrift411> i was just hoping someone could point me to the article i read that told how to fix that
[02:20] <Darkrift411> it was a setting in some config file
[02:21] <Darkrift411> so that one click in the address bar selected the whole url
[02:22] <corey> Help: I have a logitech bluetooth mouse, and i'm trying to get it working right with kubuntu.  I can get it working temporarily, but after a period of in-activity or a restart, i have to manually re-add the mouse with the hidd command.  I have tried adding the address of the mouse to rfcomm.conf, but that doesn't do anything.  Is there an easier way?
[02:22] <Darkrift411> !windows mobile
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windows mobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <Darkrift411> !pocketpc
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pocketpc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <Darkrift411> heh
[02:24] <sonoftheclayr> Darkrift411: type about:config into the address bar and then browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll and change the value of it to true by double clicking on it
[02:24] <Darkrift411> ahhhhhhh
[02:24] <Darkrift411> that sounds liek it :)
[02:25] <Darkrift411> see, i knew asking was a good idea :)
[02:25] <sonoftheclayr> Darkrift411: i'm not sure if it works or not, you might have to restart firefox
[02:26] <Darkrift411> wow
[02:26] <Darkrift411> thats it
[02:26] <Darkrift411> and it works immediately
[02:27] <Darkrift411> w000t
[02:28] <Darkrift411> ive almost got kubuntu perfect
[02:28] <Darkrift411> if only superkaramba worked halfway decent for me
[02:31] <BluesKaj> 'evening all
[02:33] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: hi
[02:34] <BluesKaj> Hi Tm_T
[02:35] <Tm_T> hu hu
[02:35] <BluesKaj> Vista is nice eye candy , but that's all ... is it ever convoluted and silly about it's secutity features ...like running hurdles instead of a relaxed stroll :)constantly
[02:36] <Tm_T> :p
[02:36] <Tm_T> bit hard to find Star Wars movies, weird
[02:36] <Tm_T> in dvd that is
[02:38] <BluesKaj> heh, I just found all 6episodes compressed to fit on one dvd :)
[02:38] <kkkkola> hi
[02:38] <kkkkola> I need codecs
[02:38] <BluesKaj> !codecs | kkkkola
[02:39] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: "found" ?
[02:39] <ubotu> kkkkola: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:39] <daein> hello, anyone know how to solve the issue with hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused? i'm trying to mount my external hdd by usb
[02:39] <BluesKaj> on isohunt
[02:40] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: hrr, no thanks, I rather buy somewhere, like play.com seems to offer decent price
[02:40] <shadowhywind> hay all i keep geting these messages in my dmesg usbfs: USBDEVFS_CONTROL failed cmd hald-addon-usb- rqt 192 rq 9 len 8 ret -110 any ideas?
[02:42] <BluesKaj> amazon Tm_T ?
[02:42] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: apparently play.com doesn't take shipping costs
[02:42] <Tm_T> but this is OT
[02:43] <Tm_T> daein: hum, does forums/wiki have any info?
[02:44] <daein> Tm_T: i'm looking.........
[02:44] <Tm_T> daein: tell me if you find any ;)
[02:49] <daein> Tm_T: maybe this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=413175 though i'm not quite sure how..
[02:50] <dale> Does anyone know any good "deskelts/docker" apps?
[02:51] <dale> does anyone know any os mac like dockers?
[02:52] <Darkrift411> wow
[02:53] <Darkrift411> i just happened to open a superkaramba theme file and saw how easy it is to edit those things :)(
[02:53] <Darkrift411> easier then some config files ive ran into :)
[02:54] <hajhouse> i'd like my kubuntu-running laptop to warn me when it's running out of battery power. the kde power manager doesn't do that, it gives onlyu options to suspend, shutdown, or hibernate when the battery drops below a certain level (but that's not what I want ).
[02:54] <jaro> can anybody tell me how to mount dvd with a special filesystem ?
[02:54] <jaro> it wont auto-mount
[02:55] <hajhouse> jaro: try mounting it from a terminal, with sudo mount -t <filesystem type>
[02:55] <jaro> what would the fs-type be ??
[02:55] <Darkrift411> how do i find out the name of my wifi (i know its not wifix) i think its eth1 or something
[02:55] <hajhouse> jaro: it'sss mount -t <type> <device name> <mount directory>
[02:56] <draik> Anyone here use Remedy?
[02:56] <draik> What is a good HTML editor that is similar to m$ frontpage?
[02:56] <jaro> invalid mountoption :(
[02:57] <jaro> sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0/
[02:57] <jaro> correct ?
[02:57] <hajhouse> jaro: looks ok
[02:57] <Darkrift411> something is trying to read sensor=program program="cat /proc/net/wireless | grep wlan0 | awk '{print $3}'" interval=1000  as my wireless, but my wireless is either eth0 or eth1, any idea what i could change to fix that?
[02:57] <hajhouse> jaro: are you sure that the disk has an iso9660 filesystem?
[02:57] <jaro> hm no
[02:57] <jaro> maybe its got another one
[02:58] <draik> !html editor
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about html editor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <draik> !html
[02:58] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[02:58] <jaro> i cant remember the fs.. someone helped me before..
[02:58] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: your internet is eth0?
[02:58] <draik> !botsnack
[02:58] <Darkrift411> my wifi
[02:58] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:58] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: what card are you using?
[02:58] <Darkrift411> built in nvidia
[02:59] <Darkrift411> broadcom
[02:59] <Darkrift411> if that helps
[02:59] <hajhouse> jaro: something that might work: copy the whole disk (raw) to a file on your drive then use file to identify it
[02:59] <tro_Olz> hi
[02:59] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: nvidia makes network cards?
[02:59] <Darkrift411> they brand cards they buy from others *(broadcom in this case)
[02:59] <dale> Does anyone know any docking apps?
[02:59] <tro_Olz> i do chown -R user /media/mymedia and still show the damn permission as root
[02:59] <jaro> uff
[02:59] <jaro> its a dvd
[02:59] <tro_Olz> how on earth i am suposed to change the permission for SUER>?
[02:59] <tro_Olz> thanks
[03:00] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: okay, so what driver are you using for your card?
[03:00] <Darkrift411> heh
[03:00] <Darkrift411> long story
[03:00] <Darkrift411> but i dont know
[03:00] <jaro> Ahh
[03:00] <jaro> UDF worked
[03:00] <anon32> tro_Olz, mount -o uid=blah,gid=blah
[03:00] <Darkrift411> the ones that i finally got working after 3 days of messing with it
[03:00] <jaro> :)
[03:00] <jaro> thx
[03:00] <hajhouse> jaro: cool
[03:00] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: whats the driver called
[03:00] <Darkrift411> i used some tutorial on the ubuntu forums to get it working
[03:00] <daein> i still don't get it. anyone know what to do when 'hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000' shows up when trying to mount a usb external hdd?
[03:00] <Darkrift411> how do i check again?
[03:00] <coreymon77> lspci
[03:01] <tro_Olz> anon32: no, that's not what I meant. I want the partitoin permanently mounted
[03:01] <anon32> tro_Olz, in fstab then, for the options parameter, have uid=blah,gid=blah
[03:01] <anon32> unless of course, the filesystem you're mounting supports permissions in the first place
[03:01] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: tell me what it says next to ethernet controller when you type lspci into a terminal window
[03:02] <Darkrift411> 3:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)
[03:02] <Darkrift411> missed a 0 at the beginning
[03:02] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: okay, so, what is it that you want to do>
[03:02] <Darkrift411> 00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
[03:02] <Darkrift411> that line  i pasted
[03:02] <Darkrift411> i need to change it to see my wifi card
[03:03] <Darkrift411> sensor=program program="cat /proc/net/wireless | grep wlan0 | awk '{print $3}'" interval=1000
[03:03] <Darkrift411> /proc/net/wireless is empty
[03:03] <tro_Olz> anon32: what filesystem WON'T have user permissions? rooFS ???
[03:03] <tro_Olz> LMAO
[03:03] <tro_Olz> *rootFS
[03:03] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: is wireless working?
[03:03] <anon32> tro_Olz, FAT
[03:03] <Darkrift411> yes
[03:03] <Darkrift411> thats what im using
[03:03] <Darkrift411> but its not called wlan0
[03:03] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: so whats the matter?
[03:03] <Darkrift411> its called eth1 or eth0
[03:03] <anon32> but don't use uid and gid if your partition *does* support permissions
[03:04] <Darkrift411> im not trying to get wireless working
[03:04] <Darkrift411> im trying tomake that line i pasted look for my wifi
[03:04] <tro_Olz> anon32: why on earth would I use FAT for my media entertenmaint on a linux box? I am using XFS
[03:04] <anon32> then why can't you set your permissions? I wasn't reading, sorry
[03:05] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: can you give me the link to the tutorial you used?
[03:05] <tro_Olz> anon32: it worked, I only needed to reload the page
[03:05] <Darkrift411> i prob couldnt find it anymore
[03:05] <Darkrift411> but i dont think that will help
[03:06] <anon32> ah, sorry
[03:06] <coreymon77> Darkrift411: okay, whats the matter with it calling the interface as eth0, do you need it to say wlan0 for some particular reason?
[03:06] <Darkrift411> cat /proc/net/wireless | grep wlan0 | awk '{print $3}' <---- i need to change that to look for my wifi, the /proc/net/wireless is empty... where else would it be?
[03:06] <Darkrift411> cat /proc/net/wireless | grep eth1 | awk '{print $3}' <---- that always returns 61 (the number should change since my internet usage is changing)
[03:07] <coreymon77> i dont really understand your problem
[03:07] <Darkrift411> i can tell
[03:07] <rathel> How do I disable the scroll wheel on my mouse?
[03:07] <Darkrift411> ok, little explanation
[03:07] <coreymon77> does kubuntu detect your wireless card?
[03:07] <Darkrift411> it does, but doesnt work without lots of work
[03:07] <Darkrift411> anyways
[03:07] <Darkrift411> wifi is working great
[03:08] <Darkrift411> i installed superkaramba
[03:08] <Darkrift411> its got a graph for wifi usage
[03:08] <Darkrift411> that line i pasted is where its looking for my wifi usage
[03:08] <Darkrift411> its wrong
[03:08] <Darkrift411> graph is showing nothing
[03:08] <Darkrift411> so im trying to edit it to point to the proper spot
[03:08] <Darkrift411> thats all
[03:08] <coreymon77> oh
[03:08] <Darkrift411> lol
[03:08] <Darkrift411> text x=70 y=350 sensor=program program="cat /proc/net/wireless | grep wlan0 | awk '{print $3}'" interval=1000
[03:08] <Darkrift411> that is the whole line
[03:09] <Darkrift411> the /proc/net/wireless part im 95% sure is incorrect
[03:09] <Darkrift411> i just want help figureing out what else i could try in place of it
[03:09] <Darkrift411> i also know the wlan0 part is prob wrong too
[03:10] <coreymon77> thats no big deal, the name of the interface does not matter, you can change it to use eth1 instead
[03:10] <Darkrift411> so how do i find out what the name of my wifi is
[03:10] <Darkrift411> im 99% sure its eth?
[03:10] <Darkrift411> but not sure if its 0 1 2 etc
[03:10] <coreymon77> easy
[03:10] <coreymon77> type iwconfig
[03:10] <Darkrift411> eth1 always returns 61, so im sure thats wrong
[03:10] <coreymon77> and pastebin the results for me
[03:11] <Darkrift411> ok, its eth1
[03:11] <Darkrift411> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"SMC54"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4311"
[03:11] <Darkrift411> i can tell by my essid
[03:11] <coreymon77> okay
[03:11] <coreymon77> so its eth1
[03:12] <Darkrift411> works :)
[03:13] <anon32> lol
[03:13] <anon32> but I thought there were no girls on teh interwebs?
[03:13] <Tm_T> don't even start that
[03:13] <Darkrift411> heh
[03:13] <anon32> ah come on...
[03:13] <coreymon77> its not
[03:14] <coreymon77> awkward time
[03:14] <coreymon77> anyways
[03:14] <coreymon77> so
[03:14] <DisabledDuck> how can i gain root access outside of terminal?
[03:14] <anon32> "gksu"
[03:14] <anon32> or "kdesu"
[03:14] <os2mac> anyone have any luck getting Wispy to work with Kubuntu?
[03:15] <Tm_T> os2mac: maybe someone
[03:15] <Tm_T> os2mac: but this is not best place for doing polls
[03:15] <os2mac> well I am looking for help... does that make it better?
[03:15] <fungos> hi
[03:15] <Sayers> Hello. Is there any multi-track studio recorders I can use on linux?
[03:15] <DisabledDuck> i'm trying to run nvidia control panel as root
[03:16] <anon32> "kdesu <command>"
[03:16] <Tm_T> os2mac: no, you should mention what is the problem or we cannot help ;)
[03:16] <fungos> how can I run again the keyboard configurator from install? I just messed my config and I cant get it back by kde settings
[03:16] <anon32> fungos, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:16] <anon32> or manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:16] <coreymon77> im not exactly sure how superkaramba works, so i dont know where it normally gets that information from, because that file is empty for metoo
[03:17] <DisabledDuck> thx
[03:18] <os2mac> Tm_T:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26830/
[03:18] <tro_Olz> opera
[03:18] <rathel> How do I disable the scroll wheel on my mouse?
[03:18] <coreymon77> so, im not too sure what to do, sorry, however, atleast i helped you find out that you are using eth1
[03:18] <tro_Olz> !fonts
[03:18] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:18] <DisabledDuck> how do i enable dual monitors?
[03:19] <Tm_T> os2mac: well that error is quite clear
[03:19] <intelikey> could i trubble one of you fine folks to test this on a 2.6+ kernel for me.  it works on 2.4 but i have no 2.6 handy to test it on.    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37611
[03:19] <intelikey> particularly the -m function
[03:19] <intelikey> and or -a
[03:19] <os2mac> Tm_T: so how do I correct it?
[03:20] <tro_Olz> DisabledDuck: in XORG using Xinerama
[03:20] <tro_Olz> how do I install opera?
[03:20] <intelikey> i wrote that in bash but converted it to posix compliant and i'm not sure all the functions will work on 2.6 kernels...
[03:21] <Tm_T> os2mac: ok, it mentions that "are you root?" so maybe you should have root privileges, in *Ubuntu that is done with sudo (:
[03:21] <NickPresta> intelikey, the script works just fine. All functions (m and a certainly). I hope you don't mind I may use it :P
[03:21] <Tm_T> os2mac: but, alas, you used it, hum
[03:21] <fungos> is there a place where kde stores keyboard config in user home?
[03:21] <intelikey> NickPresta it's free.   and thank you for testing that.
[03:22] <Tm_T> os2mac: humtidum, what this "wispy" is anyway?
[03:22] <NickPresta> intelikey, it should work fine as long as you're using /bin/sh and not the "extra-features" of BASH
[03:22] <os2mac> www.metageek.com
[03:22] <intelikey> NickPresta i think that bash will work tooo
[03:22] <Tm_T> hmh
[03:22] <intelikey> NickPresta you can change the #!/bin/sh to  #!/bin/bash  and see
[03:23] <fungos> i cant get cedilla to work.. only  !  where can I set to use deadkeys?
[03:23] <NickPresta> intelikey, it may, although I would still stick with /bin/sh as you're assured posix compliance whereas you're not with bash
[03:23] <Tm_T> os2mac: hum?
[03:23] <coreymon77> tro_Olz: i believe that you can download a ubuntu deb file from the opera website
[03:23] <anon32> though not for feisty
[03:23] <os2mac> it's a usb based spectrum analyzer for the 2.4ghz range
[03:23] <Tm_T> I see
[03:23] <intelikey> NickPresta yes that was the reason i rewrote it to begin with.
[03:23] <Tm_T> hmm
[03:24] <Tm_T> os2mac: how about using gksudo or kdesu instead of sudo?
[03:24] <Tm_T> if it's GUI app
[03:24] <os2mac> lemme check
[03:24] <NickPresta> os2mac, the Wi-Spy analyzer is compatible with Windows, Mac OSX and Linux, according to the website.
[03:24] <Tm_T> ...where did I put my glasses...
[03:24] <NickPresta> os2mac, the website also says it requires "libusb" to work on Linux
[03:25] <coreymon77> tro_Olz: there is also an apt repository for it
[03:25] <NickPresta> os2mac, you should check out: http://www.kismetwireless.net/wispy.shtml
[03:26] <os2mac> NickPresta: I have... it's not much help
[03:26] <os2mac> NickPresta: I do have libusb installed it's part of the install package.
[03:26] <NickPresta> os2mac, have you read the documentation? What part are you having trouble with, specifically?
[03:26] <tro_Olz> coreymon77: where is it at?
[03:26] <coreymon77> tro_Olz: what, the repo?
[03:26] <os2mac> NickPresta: getting it to run...
[03:27] <coreymon77> tro_Olz: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main
[03:27] <os2mac> it worked fine at the compile and make ... just won't run.
[03:27] <coreymon77> add that to your sources.list
[03:29] <NickPresta> os2mac, if you can't get any help in here (it doesn't look like it at this time of day/night), you may want to try the forums on the website I linked earlier. The forum looks pretty active and they should be able to help you.
[03:31] <tro_Olz> how stupid is this!! when I click Download on the Opera website it opens with KATE!!
[03:31] <tro_Olz> !repositories
[03:31] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:31] <tro_Olz> !repositories howto
[03:32] <tro_Olz> where my repositories at?
[03:32] <tro_Olz> the file?
[03:32] <tro_Olz> sorry I am kinda n00b on this
[03:32] <NickPresta> tro_Olz, /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:32] <coreymon77> tro_Olz: you can only edit the file as root though
[03:33] <Loiseau2nuit> hi there
[03:33] <coreymon77> tro_Olz: type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:33] <coreymon77> tro_Olz: into a terminal window
[03:33] <tro_Olz> got it
[03:33] <Subsonic> evening guys
[03:33] <NickPresta> Evening, Subsonic
[03:34] <tro_Olz> coreymon77: sudo vim
[03:34] <coreymon77> then add deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main at the bottom
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> hello
[03:35] <coreymon77> and then sudo apt-get update
[03:35] <tro_Olz> how about FrostWire
[03:35] <tro_Olz> is that on a repository as well?
[03:36] <NickPresta> tro_Olz, Frostwire's official website has a deb for you.
[03:36] <coreymon77> no, thats just the command to update apt from the repositories
[03:36] <coreymon77> oh
[03:36] <_Codeman_> I can't seem to log into anything and the wallet thing never showed up, can anyone tell me how to bring it up?
[03:37] <Misterfixit> if you d/l and install Frostwire, watch out for the "can't find java" message
[03:38] <fungos> when I try to run khotkeys I get: ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed.   how to get that working?
[03:38] <tro_Olz> NickPresta: I do'nt care!! I wan't a convenient repository
[03:38] <Misterfixit> there is a glitch in the Frostwire.sh which point it towards a non-existent directory when it looks for java.  the easy fix is to do what i did and change the frostwire.sh script to reflect the direfctory where your java is located
[03:38] <NickPresta> !attitude | tro_Olz
[03:38] <ubotu> tro_Olz: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:39] <anon32> tro_Olz, so set up your own, geez
[03:39] <tro_Olz> why this method ---> Installing FrostWire using the AnyOS .zip file
[03:39] <tro_Olz> which one is better
[03:39] <BluesKaj> Misterfixit, amule works well ...frostwire doesn't on my setup
[03:39] <tro_Olz> anon32: do I look like a c0d3r h@x0r??
[03:40] <anon32> tro_Olz, depends which one works for you... and you don't need to be l33t to make a repository
[03:40] <tro_Olz> anon32: I wish I knew how to code
[03:40] <tro_Olz> I'd be doing mad stuff
[03:40] <anon32> just lump a bunch of files together and put it on a server
[03:40] <NickPresta> Misterfixit, I prefer this: export AWT_TOOLKIT=MToolkit; export HOSTNAME=localhost; /usr/bin/frostwire in a shell script
[03:40] <anon32> tro_Olz, anyway, the zip is probably better if you don't actually want to *install* FrostWire
[03:40] <Misterfixit> amule and frostwire are different animals; in any event, frostwire work fine IF the frostwire.sh script is changed to reflect your java location
[03:41] <Misterfixit> anyway, both are easy to figure out if you tinker with the start up scripts a bit
[03:41] <tro_Olz> anon32: ahhh... ANYos works like apple O$$$ X ?
[03:41] <Misterfixit> gtg, cul
[03:41] <BluesKaj> Misterfixit, yeah i prefer the 4feet-on-the-ground animal :)
[03:42] <tro_Olz> no I'll install it if I don't have another way I don't care
[03:42] <NickPresta> tro_Olz, I have already told you that the deb provided by Frostwire.com is what you want to install if you're looking to use Frostwire as P2P client.
[03:43] <tro_Olz> NickPresta: thakns
[03:44] <tro_Olz> WTF is wrong with Konquror downloads the .deb with KATE
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> tro_Olz: you have to set file associations
[03:45] <tro_Olz> nosrednaekim: where how
[03:46] <NickPresta> tro_Olz, right click on "Start your download now" and click on "Save Link As", then save the file as "frostwire.deb". Then proceed to open up a Konsole and type: "sudo dpkg -i frostwire.deb". You're all done.
[03:46] <jaro> does anyone know how Cedega runs properly with Ubuntu ?
[03:47] <tro_Olz> NickPresta: that worked
[03:47] <tro_Olz> how do I recover from a botched Wine installation?
[03:47] <tro_Olz> tells me something about modules
[03:47] <NickPresta> tro_Olz, you can try uninstall WINE and reinstalling it. Purging all associated files
[03:47] <tro_Olz> NickPresta: how?
[03:48] <NickPresta> Use Adept to purge the installation and then reinstall it.
[03:48] <tro_Olz> how
[03:49] <NickPresta> tro_Olz, you're going to have to do a little research on your own here. We cannot spoon feed you everything. Open up Adept and search for the WINE package. Then, right click on it and reinstall it.
[03:51] <tro_Olz> how
[03:52] <NickPresta> tro_Olz, I'm sorry. I cannot help you anymore.
[03:52] <tro_Olz> oh I got it
[03:52] <tro_Olz> just messing with u ;-)
[03:53] <tro_Olz> how do I burn an BIN/CUE file?
[03:54] <NickPresta> !google | tro_Olz
[03:54] <ubotu> tro_Olz: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[03:54] <tro_Olz> I've got a usb and dmesg registers it yet I doesn't appear nowhere
[03:54] <tro_Olz> what's wrong?
[03:56] <BluesKaj> err tro_Olz ....translates to troll ...so i think you can find out for yourself
[03:56] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, I figured as much but I thought I would give him the benefit of the doubt...
[03:58] <BluesKaj> NickPresta, yer very tolerant ,but sometimes these jerks come just to " jerk us around " :)
[04:00] <brian__> hello
[04:05] <KDEfanboy> anyone know if wine uses a configurable amount of ram seen by the windows program, or if that's run from system memory or what
[04:07] <stunatra> adept  is a lousy package manager
[04:07] <coreymon77> i agree
[04:07] <NickPresta> KDEfanboy, in my experiences with WINE, it (appears to) use up (almost) all available RAM. It caches a great deal but will appear to use almost all your RAM.
[04:07] <coreymon77> i jsut use apt command line
[04:08] <draik> What is a good HTML editor?
[04:08] <stunatra> I have yet to see one decent package manager out of Linux
[04:08] <ardchoille> stunatra: adept is not a package manager.. it's just a gui front-end for APT.
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> draik: nvu
[04:08] <coreymon77> true
[04:08] <tro_Olz> stunatra: portage is THE package manager
[04:08] <draik> nosrednaekim: Got your email.
[04:08] <anon32> draik, vim
[04:08] <coreymon77> apt is the package manager
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> draik: and yours
[04:08] <KDEfanboy> NickPresta: ya i thought there used to be a wine.cfg or something but i dont see it any more.. i just want to make sure an app i run is seeing a lot of ram availabe cause it's running sloly
[04:08] <coreymon77> and i think apt is amazing
[04:08] <stunatra> whatever it is, or whatever you want to call it, sucks
[04:08] <tro_Olz> stunatra: actually there's a new one in hawt development: Paludis
[04:08] <NickPresta> draik, Aptana is pretty decent. Kate, VIm, Emacs, etc are all standard editors and are good if you know how to use them.
[04:08] <KDEfanboy> adept is decent if your computer is fast
[04:08] <nosrednaekim> draik: quanta+ is also nice
[04:09] <coreymon77> i just use the command line
[04:09] <ardchoille> same
[04:09] <KDEfanboy> for getting basic info, installing and such
[04:09] <tro_Olz> stunatra: besides, if you don't see any decent pakage manager, make your own
[04:09] <stunatra> lol
[04:09] <KDEfanboy> just out of curiosity why makes adept unlikable
[04:10] <coreymon77> although, im wondering, next to some of the packages in adept there is the kubuntu logo, whats that for?
[04:10] <ardchoille> KDEfanboy: Maybe because it isn't laid out like synaptic?
[04:10] <KDEfanboy> oh the layout ok
[04:11] <ardchoille> adept is just a gui anyway
[04:11] <draik> CLI all the way, baby!!!
[04:12] <anon32> dear god, my memory usage is way too high... sounds like FF memory leak
[04:12] <anon32> yep, 128M
[04:13] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: it means its officially supported, i,e its from the "main" repository
[04:14] <tro_Olz> which is better Digikam or F-Spot?
[04:14] <keisangi> hi there, how do i stop program startup notificatio (icon bouncing)
[04:14] <draik> Why is it that if I want to uninstall bittorrent, it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop and everything else it came with?
[04:14] <anon32> tro_Olz, digikam
[04:14] <anon32> period.
[04:14] <draik> keisangi: Shoot the icon
[04:14] <keisangi> draik, that's the feeling ;)
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> if you guys haven't noticed yet... tro_Olz, is a troll
[04:15] <anon32> draik, everything that came with it? hardly. But removing BT triggers removal of ubuntu-desktop because it's part of Ubuntu. Note that ubuntu-desktop doesn't actually do anything. It just makes upgrades easier.
[04:15] <nosrednaekim> keisangi: its in kcontrol,"program feedback"
[04:15] <anon32> nosrednaekim, oh, sorry :-\
[04:15] <ardchoille> draik: It won't remove everything else, ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package (empty) it just pulls in all the deps and ndeeded files for the ubuntu desktop. You can safely uninstall ubuntu-desktop.
[04:15] <nosrednaekim> anon32:  its ok.
[04:15] <tro_Olz> anon32: last time I checked KDE digikam needed mad extra plugins, do I need anything extra in Kubuntu for it's full functionality?
[04:15] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: that may be, but he doesnt seem to be trolling, and as long as he/she isnt doing anything annoying, who cares
[04:15] <draik> anon32: ardchoille: It wants to remove EVERYTHING from the ubuntu-desktop install
[04:15] <tro_Olz> nosrednaekim: if you guys haven't noticed yet... nosrednaekim , is a troll
[04:16] <keisangi> nosrednaekim, i don't seem to have a "kontrol" i have "system setting"
[04:16] <anon32> draik, really? pastebin. For me, it just wants to nuke gnome-btdownload and ubuntu-desktop
[04:16] <ardchoille> draik: So it lists hundreds of files? or just ubuntu-desktop?
[04:16] <pawitp> There is a "kcontrol" note the "c"
[04:16] <draik> ardchoille: It lists a bunch of files
[04:16] <draik> ardchoille: anon32: Nevermind. I see what I was reading wrong.
[04:16] <ardchoille> draik: Can you pastebin that please?
[04:16] <ardchoille> draik: ok
[04:17] <draik> All of those files are no longer required.
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> keisangi: alt+f2->kcontrol->appearance and theme->launch feedback
[04:17] <ardchoille> Yeah, that keeps your system clean
[04:17] <anon32> draik, hehe, yeah, because Ubuntu-desktop is what holds em together
[04:17] <keisangi> draik, ooh i see now, kControl
[04:17] <keisangi> nice :)
[04:17] <draik> I will pastebin anyway in about 15 minutes when my torrent is done in kTorrent
[04:17] <pyrotix> is there anyway to silence a konqueror window?
[04:17] <coreymon77> what do you mean by silence?
[04:17] <draik> anon32: So it doesn't matter if I remove ubuntu-desktop?
[04:18] <pyrotix> like if I want to control the volume on a flash thing and turn it down
[04:18] <keisangi> thanks ppl
[04:18] <pyrotix> and only have amarok play
[04:18] <anon32> no, but you need it to upgrade between Ubuntu versions
[04:18] <ardchoille> draik: No. You may want to reinstall it later if you do a dist-upgrade
[04:18] <draik> ardchoille: I'm on 6.10
[04:18] <draik> I am in no rush to dist-upgrade. I don't want to lose anything that I have right now.
[04:18] <keisangi> is there's way to make dolphin the default file manager ?
[04:18] <ardchoille> draik: Latest is 7.04
[04:18] <pyrotix> because I have music clash when playing flash games, coreymon77
[04:19] <draik> ardchoille: I know. Feisty Fawn
[04:19] <ardchoille> draik: Yeah, I don't do dist-upgrades.. fresh installs all the way.
[04:19] <pyrotix> is there anyway to silence a konqueror window?
[04:19] <draik> ardchoille: Same here, but I don't want to lose my apps and settings
[04:20] <ardchoille> draik: Then backup $HOME to cd/dvd
[04:20] <coreymon77> draik: or jsut dont format /home during install
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> keisangi: yes, right click on a folder in konqueror(or dolphin), say "open with other" select dolphin and tell it to remember that setting
[04:20] <draik> $HOME is bigger than DL DVD
[04:20] <coreymon77> draik: ive done installs without formatting my /home
[04:20] <ardchoille> draik: It is? Well, IMHO, you're doing something wrong.
[04:20] <keisangi> nosrednaekim, great, i try
[04:21] <draik> ardchoille: Too much work, pictures, wedding planning, etc
[04:21] <coreymon77> draik: /home is usually kept on a seperate partition, so just dont format that partition during install
[04:21] <ardchoille> draik: Time to buy a second hd and make it /storage or /data or something ;)
[04:21] <ardchoille> draik: My $HOME is 29.4Mb
[04:22] <keisangi> nosrednaekim, it works thanks a lot :)
[04:22] <anon32> my $HOME is 35GB...
[04:22] <nosrednaekim> keisangi: NP
[04:22] <draik> ardchoille: My HDD is 500 GB. $HOME is 150.4GB
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> my home is 35 gigs as well
[04:23] <ardchoille> draik: Ok, but I hope you have a backup scheme because hd's don't last forever.
[04:23] <anon32> my $HOME would be larger if I could afford a new HDD :-\
[04:23] <draik> ardchoille: I know. This is my 2nd HDD
[04:23] <ardchoille> anon32: I buy 40Gb hd's  they're about 50 dollars here
[04:24] <ardchoille> Never needed more than 40Gb per drive
[04:24] <anon32> :-\
[04:24] <anon32> I'm looking at a WD Caviar SE 500GB
[04:24] <anon32> $120 or so
[04:24] <anon32> and fast/reliable to boot :-P
[04:24] <ardchoille> I could go my whole life and never fill that up
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> the only really good WD are the raptors
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[04:25] <anon32> na, Caviars are good too
[04:25] <draik> anon32: I have 2 250GB hdd for backup, plus an 80GB for pictures and music. Mostly pictures
[04:25] <anon32> Raptors aren't useful for junk drives
[04:25] <chi0__> hello all
[04:26] <_dac> hey chio
[04:26] <_dac> chiO, what's your ?
[04:26] <tro_Olz> !common tasks
[04:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about common tasks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <chi0__> I don't have a prob just saying hi
[04:27] <_dac> ok
[04:27] <tro_Olz> where's that link for Desktop common tasks?
[04:27] <keisangi> dolphin is great
[04:27] <draik> tro_Olz: Online... here... http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com
[04:28] <draik> Woohoo... torrent only needs 1m
[04:28] <tro_Olz> draik: you are mean
[04:28] <nzk> Will changing my kernel to i686 or something help with my speed problems?
[04:28] <Jucato> draik: that's not so nice
[04:28] <draik> Jucato: Hey there
[04:28] <pyCube2> hmm.. where doesn one find kde styles and windeco's that dont look like crap?
[04:28] <anon32> nzk, what version of Ubuntu? for 6.06, yes.
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: he's a troll
[04:29] <draik> Jucato: he's a troll
[04:29] <Jucato> pyCube2: http://www.kde-look.org
[04:29] <draik> haha, nosrednaekim beat me
[04:29] <pyCube2> no, i mean ones that dont look like crap
[04:29] <nosrednaekim> pyCube2: make one then..
[04:29] <Jucato> pyCube2: http://www.kde-look.org <--- pick one that doesn't look like crap
[04:29] <pyCube2> i see screen shots of kde that look vey nice, so i know they exist.
[04:29] <draik> torrent done!
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> pyCube2: I use crystal with trasnparency
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> when i'm not using beryl
[04:30] <pyCube2> i am not trying to be a dick.. i just thought maybe there was a place that had better standards than kde-look
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> and I make my panels transparent
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> pyCube2: no... thats as good as it gets
[04:30] <draik> What is the command for the dist-upgrade. I am going to do it on my laptop.
[04:31] <ardchoille> pyCube2: I collect themes/styles. Can you give me a screenshot of what your idea of a decent style looks like?
[04:31] <Jucato> draik: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> bye all! have fun..
[04:31] <Jucato> pyCube2: people's taste differ. what may be crap to you won't be crap for others.
[04:31] <draik> Jucato: Thank you. Just making sure I don't need any special switches
[04:31] <ardchoille> draik: Have you edited your sources.list and done apt-get update already?
[04:31] <pyCube2> jeez.. duh
[04:31] <draik> ardchoille: Yes.
[04:31] <ardchoille> ok
[04:32] <tro_Olz> this guide is exclusively for GNOME --> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/ . Is there one for Kubuntu that uses KDE programs?
[04:32] <tro_Olz> thanks
[04:32] <pyCube2> ardchoille: i dunnno.. anything that isnt a big shiney bubble, or super extra glossy, or massive in size of widgets
[04:33] <ardchoille> pyCube2: hold on..
[04:33] <Jucato> tro_Olz: yes. the one installed on your system. K Menu -> Help -> Kubuntu Desktop Guide
[04:33] <pyCube2> i like plastic windeco, for example.. but its so goddamn big
[04:34] <draik> Dist-upgrade is done. Restart X?
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> pyCube2: you can CHANGE all that...
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> its called "appearances and themes" in system settigns
[04:34] <ardchoille> pyCube2: Something like this: http://tinyurl.com/2p63kz   ?
[04:34] <pyCube2> heh..
[04:35] <pyCube2> nosrednaekim: stop being silly
[04:35] <ardchoille> pyCube2: That style can be configured to make the gradients falt
[04:35] <nosrednaekim> pyCube2: not trying to be a jerk or anything... but KDE is about as configurable as it gets.
[04:35] <nzk> anon32, 7.04
[04:35] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: he meant the windeco. not the style
[04:35] <nosrednaekim> draik: I'd restart totally
[04:35] <pyCube2> nosrednaekim: there is no control for adjusting the window title /button size in plastic
[04:35] <nzk> I'm just annoyed its so slow, on new hardware
[04:35] <draik> nosrednaekim: Done
[04:36] <ardchoille> pyCube2: You might do:  sudo apt-get install kdeartwork
[04:36] <anon32> nzk, no point, all the kernels are the same
[04:36] <pyCube2> so, while kde might be super configgy, not in this case
[04:36] <nzk> There must be something else causing the problem
[04:36] <Jucato> pyCube2: actually there is...
[04:36] <ardchoille> and see if there's anyting in there you like
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> pyCube2: then use crystal.
[04:36] <pyCube2> ardchoille: thanks
[04:36] <Jucato> pyCube2: Border size: tiny, normal, very large, etc
[04:36] <pyCube2> yeah
[04:36] <ardchoille> pyCube2: That package include phase
[04:36] <pyCube2> try it
[04:36] <pyCube2> it adjusts the...um, border
[04:36] <pyCube2> not the title bar
[04:37] <nosrednaekim> pyCube2: I'll betcha a million bucks you can change the title bar as well
[04:37] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: you just lost a million bucks
[04:37] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: heh... try to track my IP
[04:38] <Jucato> I won't bother :)
[04:38] <pyCube2> 'kde can wipe my ass and cook me breakfast!'
[04:38] <pyCube2> i know thats the dream
[04:38] <pyCube2> but there is also reality
[04:38] <pyCube2> kde is great
[04:38] <Jucato> pyCube2: Crystal is about one of the most configurable windeco I've seen. you can make il look shiny or plain. you might want to take a look at deKorator too
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: heh.... its called "switch to crystal" there ya go.. got out my debt
[04:39] <tro_Olz> I had this question, are there program to synch the cellphone with Kubuntu? And is it possible to use a bluetooth headset to chat online?
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> tro_Olz: indeed it is, to both
[04:39] <Jucato> !info kmobiletools
[04:39] <ubotu> kmobiletools: KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 128 kB, installed size 484 kB
[04:39] <ardchoille> pyCube2: Jucato has a good point.. with dekorator you can design your own images and use them, I loved it.
[04:39] <pyCube2> Jucato: i'm playing with crystal atm.. i've messed around a bit with dekorator... seems to be written by 12 yr olds... imo, its a lrge piece of over complex turd
[04:39] <Jucato> it is :)
[04:40] <tro_Olz> nosrednaekim: excellent
[04:40] <pyCube2> "dekorator...making kde today look like enlightenment of yesterday"
[04:40] <draik> I did "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and everything is the same after the reboot
[04:40] <tro_Olz> !bluetooth
[04:41] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:42] <draik> Feisty is downloading at 700MB/s on torrent. WOOHOO
[04:42] <draik> Whoopsie
[04:42] <draik> 700kB/s
[04:42] <draik> 700MB/s would be INSANE
[04:42] <anon32> hah
[04:43] <anon32> (omg, my dl finished in 1 SECOND)
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> 700k/b would be sweet
[04:43] <draik> anon32: How the hell did I just download the entire internet in under 1 hour?
[04:43] <BluesKaj> bummer , nosrednaekim
[04:44] <nosrednaekim> quite impossible
[04:44] <anon32> hey guys, if we pooled our bandwidth, we could DDoS Google!
[04:44] <draik> anon32: ..........? Why?
[04:44] <anon32> for the fun of it? :-P
[04:45] <draik> Question: What now? I did dist-upgrade and everything is still Edgy
[04:45] <draik> nosrednaekim: same here
[04:45] <anon32> bah, it's a joke, 300 people couldn't possibly touch google :-)
[04:45] <BluesKaj> the best constant rate i've seen here is about 540kbs ...that was a dcc from a friend who lives about 300miles away
[04:45] <ardchoille> draik: Did you reboot?
[04:45] <draik> ardchoille: Yes
[04:45] <anon32> you have a friend with 540K upload???
[04:46] <nzk> anon32, do you know of any ways to make things faster?
[04:46] <anon32> nzk, what kind of things?
[04:46] <nzk> 540K is nothing
[04:46] <anon32> get more ram is one
[04:46] <nzk> I have I think 5mb up
[04:46] <ardchoille> draik: Open a term and type: lsb_release -a
[04:46] <draik> anon32: I'm somewhat of 1MB upload
[04:46] <anon32> nzk, 5mbit or 5mbyte? the latter is really impressive
[04:46] <nzk> lowercase
[04:46] <draik> ardchoille: Edgy
[04:46] <nzk> megabit
[04:46] <anon32> heh
[04:47] <ardchoille> draik: Can you !pastebin your sources.list?
[04:47] <draik> anon32: my connection is 6MB
[04:47] <anon32> I hate you... mine is 1.5Mb
[04:47] <BluesKaj> yeah he's in the Toronto city hall building ..they have some ridiculously fast fiberoptical network there
[04:47] <nzk> 30/5 at my home
[04:47] <anon32> lol, he's dling warez from the city hall building?
[04:47] <draik> haha
[04:47] <anon32> speaking of that... hey guys, I need a SERIAL FOR UBUNTU
[04:47] <anon32> or even a CRACK
[04:47] <draik> ardchoille: in the process...
[04:48] <nzk> Hah
[04:48] <nzk> a crack for free stuff
[04:48] <draik> anon32: WTH?
[04:48] <nzk> anon32, everything
[04:48] <draik> HAHA
[04:48] <BluesKaj> just some dvds of a get together
[04:48] <nzk> my computer is slow as hell
[04:48] <nzk> its low-end now, but was high-end 2 years ago
[04:48] <anon32> hmm, I've downloaded 12GB and uploaded 17GB this month... the ISP must not be liking that
[04:48] <malik__> which 3d desktop is better or easy to install and manage......beryl or compiz?
[04:48] <nzk> Ubuntu was fast on it, but now its very very slow
[04:48] <nzk> anon32, thats... a third of what i do on a regular day
[04:49] <anon32> malik__, compiz. Beryl is dead.
[04:49] <anon32> nzk, yeah, but in America, all the ISPs are slow
[04:49] <nzk> Guess where I am?
[04:49] <ardchoille> When are compiz and beryl merging back?
[04:49] <nzk> NY
[04:49] <anon32> ...
[04:49] <anon32> ardchoille, -1 months from now
[04:49] <ardchoille> Oh, hehe
[04:50] <draik> ardchoille: http://pastebin.ca/585157
[04:50] <anon32> anyway, night y`all
[04:50] <nzk> aww
[04:50] <draik> Kubuntu 7.04 will be done in under 5 min
[04:50] <tro_Olz> nzk: "aww"??? Are you gurl?
[04:50] <nzk> NGOI
[04:50] <keisangi> i was a long time gnome user.. since redhat 6.2.. i think i've finaly gave up on gnome.. kde just perform better..
[04:50] <nzk> "Aww" because he left and I still need help
[04:50] <ardchoille> draik: You wanna know why you're still on Edgy? Because your sources.list is still Edgy. You told me you changed it.
[04:51] <tro_Olz> draik: yeah 5 min, to REALLY finish and set up everything a couple of hours
[04:51] <tro_Olz> nzk: I thought only gals used awww
[04:51] <draik> ardchoille: No, I said I ran apt-get update. I did
[04:51] <draik> tro_Olz: You must be running something with 1MB RAM for a couple of hours for setup
[04:51] <malik__> can compiz be installed on kubuntu without installin gnome related software?
[04:52] <nzk> tro_Olz, NGOI.
[04:52] <ardchoille> < ardchoille> draik: Have you edited your sources.list and done apt-get update already?
[04:52] <ardchoille> !! draik!! ardchoille: Yes.
[04:52] <draik> malik__: Yes. I used compiz before beryl. No Ubuntu/GNOME
[04:52] <draik> ardchoille: :( Sorry
[04:52] <tro_Olz> draik: I am talking about finding out ALL the codecs for proper mp3 playback, burning, flash and all that stuff
[04:53] <draik> tro_Olz: I got them. No need. JFGI
[04:53] <tro_Olz> JFGI??
[04:53] <draik> 1m30s left for Feisty Fawn
[04:54] <draik> tro_Olz: http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com
[04:54] <tro_Olz> ah
[04:54] <ardchoille> draik: Please don't paste that url here. I have an 8 year old in the channel who doesn't appreciate the language.
[04:54] <draik> ardchoille: Sorry.
[04:54] <shane2peru> partitioning?  How can I reformat an external hdd?
[04:54] <ardchoille> !format
[04:54] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:55] <nzk> ardchoille, how does an 8 year old understand how to use a computer, while not being distracted by all the lights, and at the same time being in an irc chan?
[04:55] <pyCube2> why would a parent create pretendo stress by making their children fear words?
[04:55] <draik> ardchoille: BTW, great job on teaching your kid Linux. (I'm not being sarcastic)
[04:55] <shane2peru> ubotu: ok, I tried QTparted, and it didn't work right
[04:55] <ardchoille> draik , nzk She has been using Linux for a year (I won't allow any other OS in my home) and she does very well with kubuntu.
[04:56] <shane2peru> I tried QTparted, and it now that partition doesn't exist at all.
[04:56] <draik> ardchoille: No edubuntu?
[04:56] <tro_Olz> ok  I finish installing everything. I am bored now.
[04:56] <ardchoille> draik: She didn't like that one much
[04:56] <shane2peru> how can I keep KDE from auto mounting?
[04:57] <draik> I've been using Kubuntu since the initial release in 6.06 (June 1, 2006)
[04:57] <draik> Haven't used winxp since then
[04:58] <Multimaniac> hi, does anyone know a location to get qt 4.3 packages for kubuntu? I didn't find any yet :)
[04:58] <shane2peru> does anyone know how to re-format an usb hdd?
[04:59] <BluesKaj> just tried a day with vista ...lovely eye candy, clunky OS , with silly security interupts everytime one tries to do anything... ughly to use IMO
[04:59] <shane2peru> Hello???  Is there anyone here?
[04:59] <Tm_T> shane2peru: no, we are all gone
[04:59] <ardchoille> shane2peru: We're asleep
[04:59] <shane2peru> hey there are people here!  Great!
[05:00] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: I can feel your pain
[05:00] <shane2peru> Does anyone know how to use QTparted?
[05:00] <ardchoille> shane2peru: I use qtparted to format partitions, it works great
[05:00] <BluesKaj> reformatting that partition tomorrow Tm_T
[05:00] <ardchoille> shane2peru: I do
[05:00] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: heh, remember sadistic laugh when you do that
[05:00] <BluesKaj> yup :)
[05:01] <shane2peru> ardchoile:  Great, I tried to reformat a partition from ntfs to ext3 and now it doesn't work at all.
[05:01] <tro_Olz> why  is amarok not building my collection??
[05:01] <shane2peru> I remember using QTparted a long time ago, but wasn't impressed then either.  What am I doing wrong?
[05:01] <ardchoille> shane2peru: Open qtparted and click on the device you want to format
[05:01] <tro_Olz> it says I  can  check the STATUS BAR yet is not running
[05:01] <shane2peru> ok, did that
[05:01] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: on a sidenote, hate when sun doesn't really fall, it's already heated my other room
[05:01] <ardchoille> shane2peru: What do you see in the right window?
[05:01] <BluesKaj> well folks it's late here in the great white north
[05:02] <draik> !source-o-matic
[05:02] <shane2peru> yep, I don't have any choices.
[05:02] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:02] <ardchoille> shane2peru: You clicked on a device in the left pane and there's absolutely nothing inthe right pane?
[05:02] <BluesKaj> wow ... Tm_T oh yeah its summer solstice ...forgotten that you guys are near 60N there
[05:03] <shane2peru> ardchoile, oh, sorry, misread, I see my usb hdd, /dev/sdb and all the options are greyed out.
[05:03] <ardchoille> shane2peru: Did you run qt with sudo privs?
[05:03] <ardchoille> kdesu qtparted
[05:03] <BluesKaj> GParted rocks!
[05:03] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: yeah, looks like sun is below horizon 3 or 4 hours, but it's not low enough, bright
[05:03] <shane2peru> well, clicked on it in the menu, and I think it asked me for my password.
[05:04] <shane2peru> ardchoile, do I need to restart it?
[05:04] <ardchoille> shane2peru: Ok, well it should have some options available for you
[05:04] <ardchoille> shane2peru: restart it
[05:04] <shane2peru> ok
[05:04] <BluesKaj> right Tm_T ...we are not nearly as far N here ...I'm at 46N and 81W
[05:04] <Tm_T> hum
[05:05] <BluesKaj> dark now ...23:00
[05:05] <Tm_T> ha, around that it was red sky
[05:05] <shane2peru> ardchoile, I restarted it with kdesu, and clicked on the hdd, and oh, I see the erase option
[05:06] <ardchoille> shane2peru: You need to "commit" any changes for them to take effect. I think you didn't commit your last changes, which is why everything was greyed out.
[05:06] <BluesKaj> well, sacktime for me ... nite all , take care :)
[05:06] <ardchoille> nn BluesKaj
[05:06] <Tm_T> sleep well
[05:06] <shane2peru> well, I did commit, but when I tried to mount it, it claimed it was still ntfs.
[05:07] <shane2peru> ok, let me give it a try again.
[05:08] <shane2peru> ok, I formated it as ext3, is there any trick to closing out?
[05:08] <shane2peru> I hit the commit button.
[05:08] <ardchoille> are the options all greyed out?
[05:08] <draik> What is the down side of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" over a fresh install?
[05:08] <shane2peru> no, I can format or delete.
[05:08] <shane2peru> or config?
[05:08] <ardchoille> shane2peru: Then I think you're done
[05:09] <ardchoille> shane2peru: You formatted it already?
[05:09] <shane2peru> ok, now to mount it, can I mount it with the sudo umount /dev/sdb5 /media/new
[05:09] <ardchoille> draik: I have never had a dist-upgrade go well, others have.
[05:09] <shane2peru> or soemthing like that.
[05:09] <shane2peru> ardchoile, yeah, that is what I'm saying, it isn't/ doesn't seem to be taking affect.
[05:09] <ardchoille> shane2peru: umount unmounts, mount mounts
[05:10] <ardchoille> If you just formatted it, it shouldn't be mounted
[05:10] <shane2peru> right, I mean I cna mount it now.
[05:11] <Lunar_Lamp> How can I use "restricted manager" in kubuntu?
[05:11] <ardchoille> draik: And if you set things up right, a fresh install should only require you to be in front of the computer for a total of about 10 minutes.
[05:12] <netdaemon> ardchoille: 20 on a lappy, due to slower I/O
[05:12] <draik> Can someone take a look at this and tell me why I can't get the downloads as I should... http://pastebin.ca/585180
[05:13] <shane2peru> ok, I think i just messed something up, in the command line I put 'sudo mount /dev/' and then hit return by accident
[05:13] <shane2peru> now 'sudo fdisk -l' returns nothing!
[05:13] <ardchoille> draik: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/06/04/1410223
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> draik, try pinging the server address
[05:15] <ardchoille> draik: Looks like some of your sources url's are bad
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> draik, yeah, the repo address is bad, gives me the same return
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> draik, as in a 404
[05:16] <ardchoille> Thee is no pool-edgy
[05:16] <draik> hitmanWilly: ardchoille: Would you happen to know the correct URLs?
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> draik, try sourceomatic
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> !sourceomatic
[05:17] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:17] <ardchoille> draik: No, I know there's a pool dir but no edgy dir in it
[05:17] <draik> Hmmm
[05:17] <icecruncher> how can I change the home folder for a user?
[05:19] <ardchoille> draik: Looks to me like they took all edgy stuff down
[05:19] <ardchoille> http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-stable/dists/
[05:19] <draik> ardchoille: :(
[05:19] <ardchoille> draik: Try what hitmanWilly said
[05:20] <draik> I am looking at the sources and trying to figure out what I need to add.
[05:20] <draik> I have some duplicates and my eyes are getting crossed
[05:20] <malik__> is itbetter to installa the compiz from their website or from ubuntu repos? and also if i installa it from repos wud it be more easy and few clicks installation or i have to fiddle around alot still?
[05:20] <tro_Olz> ugly fonts
[05:20] <tro_Olz> they look weird
[05:20] <tro_Olz> like unsharped
[05:20] <tro_Olz> blurry I'd say
[05:20] <tro_Olz> what's wrong?
[05:21] <ardchoille> malik__: My opinion: always better to stick with the repos if at all possible.
[05:21] <Tm_T> tro_Olz: check your font settings, I think you have bit too agressive antialiasing
[05:21] <Tm_T> or something
[05:22] <ardchoille> malik__: This way upgrade/uninstalls/reinstalls are much easier.
[05:22] <malik__> ardchoille: oki, sec question ... i just select it from repos and thats it ...? .... hoefully shudnt be any probs after that?
[05:22] <ardchoille> malik__: Never used it, but I've never seen a prob with using the repos.
[05:23] <ardchoille> malik__: You haven't used any 3rd party scripts like automatix have you?
[05:23] <ardchoille> Indeed
[05:23] <malik__> ardchoille: noops i use apt(default one) in kubuntu 7.04
[05:23] <ardchoille> malik__: Good job.
[05:23] <shane2peru> ardchoile, Thanks got it, I had to reboot to get it to mount, then I had to change its group and owner because it was root, not mine.
[05:24] <ardchoille> shane2peru: Glad to hear it :)
[05:24] <shane2peru> ardchoile, Does it always belong to root when it is made with qtparted?
[05:25] <shane2peru> or is there a way to change that other than command line?
[05:25] <ardchoille> shane2peru: Yes, and that is the way it should be. You can always put a new partition into fstab to have it automount at boot.
[05:25] <shane2peru> ardchoile, even for usb drives?
[05:26] <ardchoille> shane2peru: Well, you can chown the mount point and that'll help.
[05:26] <shane2peru> they seem to change, from being /dev/sdb to /dev/sdc
[05:26] <shane2peru> yeah, that is what I did ardchoile, then the mount point disappeared when I umounted it, and then I had to create a mount point to remount it.
[05:27] <ardchoille> Where are you mounting it?
[05:27] <shane2peru> mounted it by 'sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /media/new'
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Yo all
[05:28] <shane2peru> when I booted up, it was mounted as a usb disk at /media/disk with an icon, not a folder
[05:28] <ardchoille> shane2peru: /media/new should remain even after umount
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Anyone have some NTFS knowhow ?
[05:28] <shane2peru> ok, thanks ardchoile.
[05:28] <shane2peru> DaSkreech, I know a little about ntfs
[05:29] <DaSkreech> shane2peru: Neat. Want to jump into a privchan ?
[05:29] <shane2peru> don't know much about chat.
[05:29] <DaSkreech> shane2peru: or OT
[05:29] <DaSkreech> !ot
[05:29] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:29] <DaSkreech> shane2peru: join that chan
[05:30] <shane2peru> ok, how?
[05:30] <ardchoille> DaSkreech shane2peru  or /join #DaSkreech   or  #shane2peru  ?
[05:30] <DaSkreech> shane2peru: type /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:30] <DaSkreech> shane2peru: or click the work #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:30] <DaSkreech> Word
[05:30] <DaSkreech> not work :)
[05:31] <shane2peru> ok
[05:31] <shane2peru> did that.
[05:34] <malik__> i just installed compiz from repos but i cant find where it is installed to start it..........can any1 tell me plz?
[05:47] <Dr_willis> !compwiz
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compwiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[05:47] <nzk> !compiz
[05:47] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:47] <Dr_willis> !compiz
[05:47] <Dr_willis> heh.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> i always spell that wrong
[05:48] <intelikey> penguinees ?
[05:49] <Mike> hi! would anybody know whats the counterpart of windows device manager in kubuntu?
[05:49] <intelikey> device manager ?
[05:49] <intelikey> if it's not part of  kcontrol   idk
[05:49] <ubunturos> Mike: kcontrol?
[05:50] <ubunturos> Mike: or KinfoCenter
[05:50] <Mike>   thank you
[05:50] <Mike> :)
[05:50] <intelikey> or     lshw
[05:50] <Mike> i'm checking
[05:54] <Mike> actually,  i have a leadtek tv tuner/capture card that i used in xp.  would  that work here in my kubuntu?
[05:55] <Mike> do i still need to   load any drivers? i went to k info center under pci, but i dont se e  a ny indication  that i need to loadd  any drivers for  it... Can anybody help?
[05:56] <Mike> do i still need to  load any drivers? i went to k info center under pci, but i dont see  any indication  that i need to load  any drivers for  it... Can anybody help?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Its possible it has no linux support at all.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> I would say google for that card and linux and see what support it has.
[05:58] <hitmanWilly> Mike, tv tuner support is still pretty iffy
[05:59] <Dr_willis> the #mythtv-users channel may be able to tell ya some info quickly. :)
[05:59] <Dr_willis> the Various MythTV hardware guide/info pages are proberly also worth checking
[06:00] <Mike> Thanks a lot guys! I'll try ur suggestions!
[06:01] <nzk> Why are font sizes in apps so gigantic?
[06:02] <intelikey> why are font sizes in all of xorg so tiny you can't read them ?
[06:02] <Dr_willis> is everything 'gigantic'  also?
[06:02] <nzk> No...
[06:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:02] <Dr_willis> drives me crazy
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:03] <mindslant> I have a creative labs webcam I'm trying to set up.  I downloaded Camorama in adept and it works as a camera, how do I make it work recording video?
[06:03] <mindslant> please
[06:03] <intelikey> Dr_willis i have to use that or lower to read most things,     or set font size to 24 or higher
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, small monitor?
[06:04] <intelikey> yeah  real small.   only 17"
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, i can see that then...
[06:05] <Dr_willis> 17" small. :) heh heh
[06:05] <intelikey> :)
[06:05] <Dr_willis> and his Timex SInclare on a B/W TV.
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Oh wait that was yesterday
[06:05] <Dr_willis> B/W Tv' are a bit hard to find these days.
[06:05] <intelikey> i had a 12" ibm vga monitor
[06:05] <intelikey> err yestergo
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> i don't think you can even buy b/w tv's anymore...
[06:06] <Dr_willis> I got a bunch of old junk. :)
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> at least not new
[06:06] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  i saw a 'portable' radio/tv/weather/storm thing.. that had a 5" b/w tv.
[06:06] <intelikey> prolly can't even buy tall screen tv's now.
[06:06] <Dr_willis> it was $20 :)
[06:06] <DisabledDuck> ok, i have dual monitors set up, but when i set my wallpaper, it sets it over both monitors, is there any way to fix that?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> DisabledDuck,  i thought kde let me do different one on each desktop
[06:07] <Dr_willis> DisabledDuck,  what video card? Ya using Twinview?
[06:07] <DisabledDuck> Dr_willis: nvidia, and yes
[06:08] <mindslant> Or is there a help page I might try for webcams and Kubuntu?
[06:08] <Dr_willis> DisabledDuck,  i cant check. only got one monitor. But i thought kde let me do that.
[06:08] <Dr_willis> mindslant,  check the ubuntu/kubuntu forums/wikis perhaps
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> !webcam
[06:08] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:09] <mindslant> thanks
[06:16] <intelikey> what's regex for endline ?
[06:16] <intelikey> $   ?
[06:17] <Dr_willis> $ i thought
[06:17] <intelikey> i did too.   but it's not matching for me.
[06:17] <Dr_willis> ^$ = any line. :) start/end
[06:17] <Tm_T> intelikey: kregexpeditor might help, though I don't know how to use it
[06:17] <Dr_willis> there may be some other instance/issue you are stumbling on.
[06:17] <Dr_willis> !find regexp
[06:17] <ubotu> Found: libregexp-java, libxml-regexp-perl, kregexpeditor, libgnu-regexp-java, libregexp-common-perl (and 4 others)
[06:17] <intelikey> Tm_T i'd have to install kde and xorg for that
[06:18] <Tm_T> uff
[06:19] <Dr_willis> Oh the Humanity of it all. :)
[06:19] <intelikey> Tm_T rolls eye says 'uff' shakes head and goes back to...
[06:19] <Dr_willis> endline is $
[06:20] <Dr_willis> thats an intereesting little program
[06:20] <Tm_T> intelikey: dark cave?
[06:20] <Dr_willis> what ya trying to match?
[06:20] <intelikey> :$
[06:20] <intelikey> @ Dr_willis
[06:20] <Dr_willis> a : then the end of line?
[06:20] <intelikey> yeah
[06:21] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: intelikey add dot, so :.$
[06:21] <Tm_T> hum
[06:21] <Dr_willis> :$ is what it says.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Yea. i was just thinking that.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> theres that 'at least one' or "one or more" thing that often gets me with these patterns
[06:24] <_Codeman_> how do I add programs to the kde menu?
[06:24] <FabioBR> Hello, im trying to install anjuta (im using kubuntu 7.04), but it's trying to install gnome libs. There is some way to install anjuta without install gnome libs?
[06:25] <Jucato> FabioBR: given that Anjuta is a GNOME app? I don't think so
[06:25] <roberto> hello
[06:25] <roberto> hola
[06:25] <roberto> hay alguien aki?
[06:25] <FabioBR> Jucato: Can you recomend another ide for c++ development???
[06:25] <roberto> no
[06:25] <nzk> Gedit
[06:25] <nzk> Kate
[06:25] <roberto> yeah
[06:26] <roberto> iam need admo
[06:26] <roberto> i need medic
[06:26] <intelikey> well :.$   is matching in 'sperts'  it will hit about 165 or so and just stop  then i can drop down a line and it will hit that many more...
[06:26] <Hobbsee> FabioBR: no
[06:26] <Hobbsee> FabioBR: kdevelop3 is good
[06:26] <roberto> i need cover ops
[06:26] <FabioBR> ok... ill try kdevelop!!! thanks all!
[06:26] <roberto> no problem,
[06:27] <intelikey> that one hit 8 the next one 50     with over 65k lines this will take a while....
[06:29] <winston> how can i get rid of the terminal panel on the bottom of konqueror?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> Terminal Panel?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> in the file manager - the F8 KEY i think hides/shows the terminal window.
[06:30] <winston> yes i have a terminal with $ prompt on the bottom of my konqueror
[06:30] <intelikey> ok what's the EOF char ?
[06:30] <winston> Dr_willis: that did it thanks
[06:30] <intelikey> maybe if ill remove them it will work....
[06:31] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  Hmm.. I dont seem to recall that one.
[06:31] <aiolia> i want beryl
[06:31] <aiolia> NOW
[06:32] <aiolia> ubuntu 7.4 is bad?
[06:32] <aiolia> kubuntu
[06:32] <nzk> It doesn't exist
[06:32] <nzk> No such thing
[06:32] <aiolia> crazy
[06:32] <Dr_willis> I find Feisty Fawn to be very useable.
[06:33] <aiolia> and 7.10
[06:33] <aiolia> ???
[06:33] <Jucato> 7.04
[06:33] <nzk> Yeah
[06:33] <Jucato> not 7.4
[06:33] <aiolia> sorry
[06:33] <aiolia> i ve sound problem
[06:34] <aiolia> like dont exist
[06:34] <aiolia> normal???
[06:34] <aiolia> 95%
[06:35] <aiolia> i ll come back
[06:35] <Jucato> !sound
[06:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:36] <intelikey> Jucato  how much differance in 007.04  and 7.4  when you are talking YYYY.MM ?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  what regrexp are you using?
[06:37] <intelikey> Dr_willis :.$    and deleting that.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> The dot is a very powerful regex metacharacter. It allows you to be lazy. Put in a dot, and everything will match just fine when you test the regex on valid data. The problem is that the regex will also match in cases where it should not match.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  from a tutorial i am reading. :)
[06:37] <Dr_willis> the . aparently does NOT match a 'newline' as a caracter
[06:37] <Dr_willis> http://www.regular-expressions.info/dot.html
[06:37] <Dr_willis> except in some cases. :)
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Tm_T: Yo!
[06:39] <intelikey> yeah i doted it  but it is matching something in the file that makes it think it hit the end of file   i can drop down one line and go again,  it will hit as few as 3 and as many as 200 then just stop    says "no more matches"  if i run it again from that point it says not found  but if i drop down one line it goes again....
[06:39] <DaSkreech> df -h
[06:39] <intelikey> @ Dr_willis  ^
[06:41] <Dr_willis> use :\n$   perhaps?
[06:41] <semistud2354> can someon pleas help me...everytime i try to go into adept i get an error "the apt database could not be opened"
[06:41] <Dr_willis> Im just reading and getting a headache. lol.. :)
[06:41] <Dr_willis> I cant seem to figure how to get that KDE regexp tool to 'show the lines that got matched'
[06:41] <semistud2354> it tells me to sudo apt-get setup and apt upgrade
[06:41] <Dr_willis> it has a text entry area. but just cant seem to figure out what use it is.
[06:41] <semistud2354> nothing works
[06:42] <intelikey> i think i regex \n matches literal n   ?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  not from what i just read.
[06:42] <semistud2354> has anyone had any experience with this problem
[06:43] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  but i am getting tired.. could be the site is using the syntax in a confusing way
[06:43] <intelikey> Dr_willis yeah.     well \n doesn't match anything for me
[06:43] <semistud2354> can someon pleas help me...everytime i try to go into adept i get an error "the apt database could not be opened"
[06:44] <intelikey> or :\n doesnt
[06:44] <roho> when i upgraded to a newer version of kde, it wanted to remove egroupware.  if it's not supported anymore, is phpgroupware?
[06:44] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | semistud2354
[06:44] <ubotu> semistud2354: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:44] <aiolia> i m in adept updater
[06:44] <aiolia> but answere me this
[06:45] <aiolia> now work
[06:45] <DaSkreech> aiolia: eh?
[06:46] <semistud2354> it dodnt work
[06:46] <semistud2354> it didnt work
[06:47] <semistud2354> it doesnt crash....
[06:47] <semistud2354> it just sais i cant get in
[06:47] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: what does it say when you can't get in ?
[06:47] <semistud2354> "The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem."
[06:47] <semistud2354> thats word for word
[06:47] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: have you tried those ?
[06:47] <semistud2354> yup
[06:48] <semistud2354> nothing
[06:48] <semistud2354> rebooting
[06:48] <semistud2354> nothing
[06:48] <semistud2354> dpkg configure -a
[06:48] <semistud2354> nothing
[06:48] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: what are you trying to do?
[06:48] <semistud2354> lol get in adept
[06:48] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: to stare at it's pretty face? :)
[06:49] <semistud2354> i click....it asks for root i get in it loads some stuff...then that message pops up
[06:49] <semistud2354> i want to install/uninstall stuff
[06:49] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: what stuff
[06:49] <semistud2354> i dunno...just stuff
[06:49] <intelikey> semistud2354   sudo echo boo
[06:49] <semistud2354> i cant get in
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[06:49] <intelikey> does it say boo ?
[06:50] <semistud2354> lol
[06:50] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: he's not joking btw
[06:50] <intelikey> nothing funny about that.   does it work or not
[06:50] <semistud2354> yes
[06:50] <semistud2354> whats that have to do with anything
[06:50] <intelikey> ok what re;ease are you running
[06:50] <aiolia> where i can download kubuntu 7.10?
[06:51] <semistud2354> well....im trying gutsy
[06:51] <semistud2354> 32
[06:51] <semistud2354> bit
[06:51] <intelikey> adept is broken in gutsy
[06:51] <semistud2354> you knew this...or you just assuming
[06:51] <intelikey> maybe in a few days ....
[06:51] <semistud2354> ??
[06:51] <intelikey> ask Jucato
[06:51] <DaSkreech> semistud2354: it's broken in gutsy and for guty help you should be in #ubuntu+1
[06:51] <aiolia> is 7.10 only gnome?
[06:52] <semistud2354> no kubuntu
[06:52] <DaSkreech> aiolia: no
[06:52] <intelikey> aiolia 7.10  is alpha
[06:52] <aiolia> so?
[06:52] <aiolia> unstable?
[06:52] <intelikey> so expect many issues
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Its in testing.. so there are issues. :)
[06:52] <Dr_willis> 'issues' such a nice term
[06:53] <Dr_willis> !find regexp
[06:53] <ubotu> Found: libregexp-java, libxml-regexp-perl, kregexpeditor, libgnu-regexp-java, libregexp-common-perl (and 4 others)
[06:53] <intelikey> heh yeah it is...
[06:53] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  i got a headache now from searching those docs. :)
[06:53] <semistud2354> i had feisty 64 but i coulnt get anything to work
[06:53] <DaSkreech> aiolia: for right not hair tearing unstable
[06:53] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  did you really need 64bit at all?
[06:53] <DaSkreech> !doesntwork
[06:53] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[06:53] <semistud2354> i was planning to run a 64 bit windows
[06:53] <semistud2354> virtual machine
[06:54] <Dr_willis> semistud2354,  hmm.. last i looked vmware could do that from a 32bit install.
[06:54] <aiolia> i think if somebody sell vista i can use unstable 7.10 linux
[06:54] <intelikey> i'm off home key
[06:54] <Dr_willis> not that i ever tried it.
[06:54] <semistud2354> vmware
[06:54] <semistud2354> is that the same as virtual box
[06:55] <Dr_willis> Same sort of tool.. not the SAME program
[06:55] <semistud2354> o dammit....
[06:55] <semistud2354> i installed gutsy expecting not to have to upgrade in october
[06:55] <semistud2354> it was a good idea at the time
[06:55] <semistud2354> lol
[06:55] <Dr_willis> there will always be upgrades...
[06:56] <semistud2354> man...i fucked up my feisty 32....
[06:56] <semistud2354> i had beryl, and everything
[06:56] <semistud2354> it ran perfectly
[06:57] <semistud2354> is there anyway to install feisty iso...with out a cd
[06:58] <intelikey> !ohmy
[06:58] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:58] <Dr_willis> not very easially. from what i recall hearing.
[06:59] <semistud2354> damn were the heck am i going to find a cd-r in mexico
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Hopefully a store
[06:59] <semistud2354> come to mexico n see
[06:59] <semistud2354> lol
[07:00] <semistud2354> vacation btw
[07:00] <semistud2354> anyway im going to go cry like a little girl because i erased my perfect os
[07:00] <semistud2354> thanx for all your help guys
[07:02] <aiolia> i ve no sound
[07:02] <intelikey> 7.10 ?
[07:02] <aiolia> 04
[07:02] <Dr_willis> ^.\+:.*$
[07:03] <Dr_willis> Hmm...
[07:03] <Dr_willis> !info  txt2regex
[07:03] <ubotu> txt2regex: A Regular Expression "wizard", all written with bash2 builtins. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-3 (feisty), package size 35 kB, installed size 260 kB
[07:03] <intelikey> wouldn't  ^.*$ be the same thing
[07:03] <Dr_willis>  txt2regex  is sort of nifty intelikey  - But i cant seem to get it to do wha ti want.
[07:03] <DaSkreech> !sound
[07:03] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:03] <Dr_willis> Just checking out the tools in the packages. :)
[07:04] <aiolia> like
[07:04] <aiolia> google is ur friend
[07:04] <intelikey> yeah     sed is as handy as the pocket on a shirt
[07:04] <Dr_willis> start of line, followed by any # of characters, then a :
[07:04] <Dr_willis> THEN i get confused in the program. :)
[07:04] <intelikey> oh
[07:05] <intelikey>  ^.*:.*$
[07:05] <intelikey> any line containing :
[07:05] <aiolia> i think i can download 7.1 and later ask someting
[07:06] <intelikey> ! 7.1   7.10  it's year.month
[07:06] <intelikey> year dot month
[07:07] <aiolia> je but u undesrstand
[07:07] <intelikey> thus 7.4 and 7.04 would be the same  but  7.1 and 7.10 are not the same.
[07:07] <aiolia> 7.04 ok but not the other
[07:07] <intelikey> year dot month
[07:08] <aiolia> in mat u wrong man
[07:08] <DaSkreech> aiolia: why do you want Gutsy?
[07:08] <aiolia> i dont really know
[07:08] <aiolia> is the last
[07:08] <ardchoille> aiolia: Unless you're planning to test or hunt bugs, using alpha software is just asking for trouble.
[07:09] <ardchoille> 7.04 is the latest stable release.
[07:09] <aiolia> i dont hope
[07:09] <aiolia> ye and 6.10 is more sure
[07:12] <Dr_willis> 0_o
[07:13] <DaSkreech> !feisty
[07:13] <ubotu> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[07:13] <DaSkreech> aiolia: ^^^ feisty is the latest
[07:13] <ardchoille> I wonder if Gutsy will have kde 4.0
[07:13] <Dr_willis> ardchoille,  im betting the deadlines will be close...
[07:14] <intelikey> well i used a macro and got all the way through the file.... now if i didn't break it some place i'm good to go.
[07:14] <Dr_willis> heh
[07:14] <Dr_willis> well night all.
[07:15] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: NO and yes :)
[07:16] <Linux_Galore> the info Ive seen for the Gutsy release is kde 4.0 wont be standard but it will be offered as a post install option
[07:19] <Viking667> hi all. I've got a konq/thunderbird issue I'm trying to resolve. In Thunderbird, clicking on a http:// link inside an email brings up konq instead of firefox. I can't find anything related in Thunderbird's <About:config> in the preferences, and ...
[07:20] <Viking667> I've set the default web browser to be firefox in the <System Preferences>--> Default Applications
[07:20] <Viking667> so, what else could I look at, as I'm currently stuck.
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Viking667: not sure it's not a KDE app so it wouldn't care about the default apps
[07:21] <Viking667> Yeah, that was my thought too, but how is it deciding to call konq instead of firefox (which is on the system)
[07:22] <intelikey> alternatives   or   prefered applications
[07:23] <intelikey> ls -l /usr/bin/x-wwwbroswer    or what ever it's called
[07:24] <intelikey> ls -l /usr/bin/x*browser     :)
[07:27] <Viking667> I'm a bit dubious about how it's deciding... I'll look that up
[07:28] <Viking667> thank you. I think you've just hit on it.
[07:29] <Jucato> Viking667: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[07:30] <Jucato> Viking667: but in the case of Firefox and Thunderbird, they're also capable of choosing their own default browser/apps to call
[07:31] <DaSkreech> night Jucato
[07:31] <nzk> I am beginning to like KDE
[07:31] <gangien`> KDE ftw
[07:32] <Jucato> it's actually afternoon... but I took a pain killer and want to sleep it off :)
[07:32] <nzk> Where are you that its afternoon
[07:32] <nzk> its 1:32am EST
[07:32] <Viking667> yeah. Done.
[07:32] <Jucato> 1:32pm. halfway around the globe :)
[07:34] <Viking667> 17:34 here...
[07:34] <Viking667> all the way round the globe... (i.e. the date line)
[07:34] <intelikey> Jucato gooday
[07:35] <Viking667> Jucato: heh. That was my problem - thunderbird was choosing for itself to call the x-www-browser binary
[07:35] <romudog> How do i auto-mount a drive on boot?
[07:35] <Viking667> ... which was pointed to konq, of course.
[07:35] <intelikey> romudog put it in fstab
[07:35] <Viking667> romudog: is it in the /etc/fstab?
[07:36] <yknott> romudog: check man fstab
[07:36] <intelikey> man fstab
[07:36] <intelikey> :)
[07:36] <intelikey> seeing that yall got that i'll go back to sanatizing shell scripts
[07:36] <romudog> intelikey:How do i put it in fstab?
[07:36] <Jucato> !fstab | romudog
[07:36] <ubotu> romudog: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:37] <yknott> !fstab > romudog
[07:37] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: go to bed...
[07:37] <yknott> Jucato: and sleep when you get there
[07:42] <romudog> sorry, I'm tired..the device is /dev/sdb1 i want it mounted to /media/sdb1 but any chance i can have it a drive instead of an folder icon? Can someone help me mount it or shall i end up doing that later?
[07:43] <Viking667> doesn't media show up as a device on the desktop if you turn that on?
[07:43] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: NO and yes?
[07:44] <romudog> Viking667: Nope
[07:44] <Viking667> hm. Funny. I seem to remember turning that on, and a drive icon for / turning up. I could be wrong about the icon - hang on, I'll just check
[07:44] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: Pick one, lol
[07:44] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: No it's assuredly not going to be in Feisty
[07:44] <DaSkreech> Gutsy
[07:44] <DaSkreech> Duh
[07:44] <Viking667> done.
[07:45] <DaSkreech> But if you want it .... we can talk :)
[07:45] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: Wel, I don't install anything unless it's in the repos.
[07:45] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: Ok here is the deal
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Gutsy ships before KDE4
[07:46] <DaSkreech> so you will have the normal repos you can upgrade from like KDE 3.5.x
[07:46] <radotsiahaan> PLS
[07:46] <radotsiahaan> I WANNA ASK
[07:46] <radotsiahaan> ABIUT SAMBA SERVER
[07:46] <ardchoille> !caps
[07:46] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:46] <Viking667> err, stop shouting
[07:46] <radotsiahaan> about samba server
[07:46] <DaSkreech> but we are also thinking of having a remastered sneak-peek edition ISo of Gutsy with KDE 4 after KDE4 ships
[07:46] <DaSkreech> Unsupported of course
[07:47] <DaSkreech> !samba
[07:47] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:47] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: That would be awesome
[07:47] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: Wouldn't it?
[07:47] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: So very definately no
[07:47] <radotsiahaan> how to build samba server that can connect windows with ubuntu
[07:47] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[07:47] <DaSkreech> Gutsy does not ship with KDE4 and doesn't have a support package
[07:47] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: But man will you have some KDE4 goodness :)
[07:47] <Viking667> s/were/are/
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Viking667: read the topic
[07:48] <DaSkreech> !kde
[07:48] <ardchoille> DaSkreech: Well, I may wait until Happy Hippo then
[07:48] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[07:48] <Viking667> hm. I read the web page...
[07:48] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: humpy hamburgler?
[07:48] <ardchoille> hahaha
[07:48] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: Probably wont have KDe4 either
[07:49] <DaSkreech> !samba | radotsiahaan
[07:49] <ubotu> radotsiahaan: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:49] <DaSkreech> ardchoille: I don't think anyone will have a KDE4 by default supported ISO for any distro till KDE 4.1
[07:49] <Viking667> ii  kdebase   3.5.6-0ubuntu20.1 <[07:50] <DaSkreech> Viking667: well then you'd know you have to add a new repo :)
[07:50] <Viking667> ah. Right.
[07:50] <Viking667> I did rather wonder about that, though I haven't actually tinkered much with kubuntu, as this is my wife's machine.
[07:51] <Viking667> .. and it really IS a brand-new (for us, anyhow) install.
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Viking667: welcome to Kubuntu :)
[07:51] <radotsiahaan> tnaks for the light ubotu
[07:52] <DaSkreech> !thanks
[07:52] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:53] <DaSkreech> !botslap is Meesa sorry master. Messo try harder?
[07:53] <dominican> ubotu is a bot
[07:53] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[07:53] <dominican> ??
[07:53] <radotsiahaan> sorry if i ask again
[07:54] <dthacker> sshhhh, it heard you.....
[07:54] <DaSkreech> dominican: Man now it's going to call up it's friend T-2200 :(
[07:54] <radotsiahaan> i is there different way..setting samba server between ubuntu ang kubuntu
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Good thing that it runs on windows :)
[07:55] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: woah. Wait. what?
[07:55] <Admiral_Chicago> !uuid
[07:55] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: You want samba in between two linux boxes?
[07:55] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[07:55] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37615
[07:56] <radotsiahaan> no...
[07:56] <radotsiahaan> sorry my english is bad
[07:56] <radotsiahaan> i`m still newbie in linux
[07:56] <romudog> omfg
[07:56] <maestro> me too
[07:57] <romudog> me blew blo blue blue blah
[07:57] <romudog> hehe me made funneh
[07:57] <maestro> hjeje
[07:57] <DaSkreech> romudog: quiet
[07:57] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: What are you trying to do?
[07:57] <romudog> I have horrible english
[07:57] <intelikey> romudog blo and blah don't fit in that string.
[07:57] <maestro> romudog where you from
[07:57] <romudog> Tunisia
[07:57] <DaSkreech> romudog: welcome
[07:58] <romudog> ty
[07:58] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: That's fine :-) I just want to know what you are doing
[07:58] <maestro> heeeeeee dont know :P
[07:58] <radotsiahaan> linux is so confusing
[07:58] <maestro> hahaha
[07:58] <intelikey> yes maestro he doesn't
[07:59] <maestro> yeah radot a litlle bit
[07:59] <radotsiahaan> there is so much alphabet
[07:59] <radotsiahaan> like dos
[07:59] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: all computers are confusing at first :0
[07:59] <radotsiahaan> or promagging
[07:59] <radotsiahaan> what ever
[07:59] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:59] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: what are you trying to do?
[07:59] <maestro> you are talking about the console?? or stuff like that...if it yeah at the start is a confusing
[07:59] <radotsiahaan> is there any quick setting make gui
[07:59] <intelikey> (:   linux makes dos run hide in the cornor
[08:00] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: take it from someone who had a 15 minute course on how to open a lptop and find the power button for his mom
[08:00] <radotsiahaan> to configure samba sever
[08:00] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: you are sharing between two linux machines?
[08:00] <radotsiahaan> no..
[08:00] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: ok what machines are you sharing between?
[08:00] <maestro> radot there are many SAMBA manuals on internet, you can pick up one?
[08:00] <radotsiahaan> i have intalled kubuntu 6.06
[08:01] <radotsiahaan> now
[08:01] <radotsiahaan> i chat with it
[08:01] <radotsiahaan> and i want my other computer with windows os
[08:01] <radotsiahaan> can connect internet
[08:01] <maestro> ummm
[08:01] <maestro> you want to share the internet from kubuntu to windows
[08:01] <radotsiahaan> yess..
[08:02] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: you want to share internet or files?
[08:02] <Viking667> thanks, all. Bye.
[08:02] <radotsiahaan> i have 2 computers
[08:02] <DaSkreech> right
[08:02] <radotsiahaan> 1 kunbuntu
[08:02] <maestro> !!!! i was tryinng to do that but is a hell
[08:02] <radotsiahaan> 1 windows
[08:02] <DaSkreech> one windows one kubuntu
[08:02] <DaSkreech> great :)
[08:02] <radotsiahaan> yess..
[08:02] <radotsiahaan> i have read that
[08:03] <radotsiahaan> linux must be server
[08:03] <radotsiahaan> and it must be installed samba
[08:03] <maestro> i ve heard that with iptables you can do that
[08:03] <radotsiahaan> and i dont know how to installed it
[08:03] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: to serve what? internet?
[08:03] <radotsiahaan> it make confused
[08:03] <radotsiahaan> yaaa..
[08:03] <DaSkreech> then that's not true you don't need samba
[08:03] <maestro> yesss
[08:04] <radotsiahaan> soo... what i need
[08:04] <DaSkreech> !gateway
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gateway - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <radotsiahaan> ???
[08:04] <maestro> cause is for sharing with windows no?
[08:04] <DaSkreech> maestro: for sharing files.
[08:04] <intelikey> oooops. -root: file: command not found
[08:04] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan doesn't want to share files he wants to share the internet
[08:04] <intelikey> what provides file ?
[08:04] <DaSkreech> intelikey: samba
[08:04] <intelikey> no
[08:05] <intelikey> the executable     '/bin/file'
[08:05] <maestro> waht are yo try to execute
[08:05] <radotsiahaan> ok i will try ur advice
[08:05] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: You need to make one of the computers a gateway
[08:06] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: how is your network setup now?
[08:06] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: if one has internet the other doesn't ?
[08:06] <maestro> they have to make ping with want
[08:06] <maestro> one
[08:06] <radotsiahaan> thre is 3 computers
[08:06] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: ok :)
[08:06] <radotsiahaan> one computer is windows xp
[08:06] <DaSkreech> right
[08:07] <radotsiahaan> connect to internet directly
[08:07] <DaSkreech> ok
[08:07] <radotsiahaan> and second computer is linux ubuntu
[08:07] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: ok good
[08:07] <intelikey> :)
[08:08] <radotsiahaan> i connect to the internet with computer one
[08:08] <DaSkreech> right
[08:08] <radotsiahaan> and the third is windows xp 2
[08:08] <DaSkreech> cool
[08:09] <radotsiahaan> i want connect to internet but correspond with komputer that have linux kubuntu os
[08:09] <intelikey> basename `grep -Rwe "/bin/file" /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list | cut -d':' -f1` 2>/dev/null    <<<< what's that say ?
[08:09] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: ok. are the three boxes connected to each other?
[08:09] <radotsiahaan> i dont know how to connect third computer to internet via second computer
[08:09] <radotsiahaan> yeess
[08:10] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: ok how do they get an IP address ?
[08:10] <radotsiahaan> imanually
[08:10] <radotsiahaan> my internet use adsl modem
[08:10] <radotsiahaan> installed in forst computer
[08:10] <radotsiahaan> first computer
[08:11] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: ok
[08:11] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: I'm guessing this is a USB DSL modem?
[08:11] <radotsiahaan> yess
[08:11] <DaSkreech> Of course :)
[08:12] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: well the computer that you choose to let the others go online should have a manual IP and the others should use that IP as the gateway
[08:13] <radotsiahaan> should we take a dns
[08:13] <radotsiahaan> in my experience
[08:13] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: it can be the DNS or you can use the Modem for that
[08:13] <radotsiahaan> gateway = dns
[08:14] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: correct
[08:14] <DaSkreech> thats the smart way to do it
[08:14] <radotsiahaan> so..what for of samba server
[08:14] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: You don't need samba server
[08:15] <pawitp> I shouldn't have missed the Windows Marketplace :(
[08:15] <radotsiahaan> we dont need it for sharing internet right
[08:15] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: samba allows windows to browse the files on linux
[08:15] <DaSkreech> it has nothing to do with the internet
[08:15] <radotsiahaan> ooo...
[08:15] <DaSkreech> right you don't need it at all to share the internet
[08:15] <radotsiahaan> like neighborhood
[08:15] <radotsiahaan> in windows
[08:16] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: right it will make Linux turn up in Network neighbourhood
[08:16] <radotsiahaan> i have read the article
[08:16] <DaSkreech> actually if you don't want to pull up any wires you can make the Windows machine the gateway
[08:16] <radotsiahaan> but i dont still get it
[08:16] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: Which article
[08:16] <radotsiahaan> so much code
[08:16] <radotsiahaan> many article
[08:17] <radotsiahaan> u can see in www.ilmukomputer.com
[08:17] <radotsiahaan> there many article correspanding with linux
[08:17] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaa125
[08:18] <radotsiahaan> is there easy way to setting samba like windowsd do
[08:18] <radotsiahaan> just click..and clik..and clik
[08:18] <DaSkreech> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu6.10_firewall_gateway
[08:18] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: that is copy and paste
[08:18] <Daisuke_Ido> !my
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about my - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <Daisuke_Ido> that is depressing
[08:19] <Daisuke_Ido> no malaysian ubuntu channel
[08:19] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: You don't need to look at samba though.  You need to be looking at setting up a gateway
[08:19] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: and you can use windows for that if you like
[08:19] <DaSkreech> that way you don't have to move the modem (or more likely move the computers)
[08:20] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: want to start one?
[08:20] <radotsiahaan> ummm...one more question
[08:20] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: sure
[08:20] <radotsiahaan> ow to install adsl modem to linux kubuntu?
[08:21] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido they all had to start somewhere,  you can start that one....
[08:21] <radotsiahaan> i have plan to make linux to be a server
[08:21] <Daisuke_Ido> DaSkreech: that would require 2 things.  1) that i care, and 2) that i speak the language :D
[08:21] <radotsiahaan> fully server
[08:21] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: as far I know it might work just by plugging it in unless it requires special routing software
[08:21] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: what will it serve?
[08:21] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: well if you don't care it's not depressing then is it?
[08:22] <intelikey> somebody tell me what  >>>> basename `grep -Rwe "/bin/file" /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list | cut -d':' -f1` 2>/dev/null
[08:22] <radotsiahaan> my adsl modem dont have routine programs
[08:22] <intelikey> says ?
[08:22] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm just taking the typical stand.  "oh, this is terrible, someone should do something!  ...not me, though."
[08:23] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido just run the command and leave my attatude alone....
[08:23] <intelikey> :)
[08:24] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: I think it should  just work. But I'm not a USB expert nor do I know the make of our modem
[08:24] <Daisuke_Ido> i run no command until i know what it does :P
[08:24] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: if you do a search on google for linux <modem model number>
[08:24] <DaSkreech> It should help
[08:25] <DaSkreech> intelikey: not a thing
[08:25] <jussi01> intelikey: what does that command do?
[08:25] <DaSkreech> intelikey: not a thing it's missing an operand
[08:26] <radotsiahaan> if i face problem about linux
[08:26] <radotsiahaan> i will ask u
[08:26] <radotsiahaan> thanks again
[08:26] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: please come and ask here
[08:26] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: we will be glad to help if we are awake
[08:27] <intelikey> DaSkreech missing what ?
[08:28] <intelikey> is file not in /bin/  ?
[08:28] <DaSkreech> intelikey: I don't care ;-) I dumped your 2> and basename says it wants another operand
[08:28] <DaSkreech> intelikey: indeed it is not
[08:28] <intelikey> see i don't 'file' i'm looking for what provides it.   i thought it was in /bin/
[08:29] <intelikey> which file
[08:30] <intelikey>  basename `grep -Rwe "`which file`" /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list | cut -d':' -f1` 2>/dev/null
[08:31] <DaSkreech> file.list
[08:32] <intelikey> file is it's own package    O.o
[08:32] <intelikey> thanks..
[08:32] <ashu18> DaSkreech:hey gimme the password plz
[08:32] <DaSkreech> ashu18: Hi :) Not me this time
[08:33] <DaSkreech> ashu18: I wasn't the last person on your machine
[08:33] <ashu18> DaSkreech:so?
[08:33] <ashu18> no one knew our password
[08:33] <radotsiahaan> dont work
[08:33] <DaSkreech> so I didn't change your password
[08:34] <Daisuke_Ido> what's going on now?
[08:34] <ashu18> oh..ok then.............
[08:34] <ashu18> see you then...
[08:34] <ashu18> bye
[08:34] <DaSkreech> ashu18: sent you a message
[08:34] <ashu18> yep i ll try that
[08:34] <ashu18> bye gotta go...loads of work 2 do
[08:35] <Daisuke_Ido> to
[08:35] <Daisuke_Ido> it's one extra character
[08:35] <Daisuke_Ido> is it THAT hard to type
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[08:37] <DaSkreech> intelikey: any reason that won't work on your machine?
[08:40] <intelikey> DaSkreech which what ?
[08:40] <DaSkreech> intelikey: the command what does it come back with on our machine
[08:40] <intelikey> nada
[08:40] <radotsiahaan> excume can isak to u again daskreech
[08:41] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: briefly
[08:41] <intelikey> DaSkreech it only reads the information files that dpkg has saved telling it where all the files in each installed package are.  and seeing that i didn't have it installed....
[08:41] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: what do you need?
[08:41] <DaSkreech> intelikey: so why didn't you just install it?
[08:41] <DaSkreech> or hit up packages.ubuntu.com
[08:41] <radotsiahaan> i have 2 lan card installed in my limux
[08:42] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: ok
[08:42] <radotsiahaan> but it dtected one
[08:42] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: sudo ifconfig -a
[08:42] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: if they are both on it will show you both
[08:42] <radotsiahaan> oo..thank you
[08:42] <intelikey> DaSkreech had to find out what package it was in...     and yeah i chould have check the package listing first,  i just assumed that it would be like 'cp'  you can't install cp unless you can find the package it's in....
[08:43] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: it can have them both detected but one is turned off
[08:43] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: you can use sudo ifup ethX to turn it on
[08:43] <DaSkreech> sudo ifdown ethX to turn it off
[08:43] <intelikey> cp is in  coreutils   btw
[08:43] <intelikey> i have it so i can check
[08:43] <DaSkreech> !info find
[08:43] <ubotu> Package find does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:43] <DaSkreech> !info file
[08:44] <ubotu> file: Determines file type using "magic" numbers. In component main, is standard. Version 4.19-1ubuntu2.1 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 120 kB
[08:44] <DaSkreech> !find cp
[08:44] <ubotu> Found: acpi, acpi-support, acpid, cpio, cpp (and 202 others)
[08:44] <intelikey> :)
[08:44] <DaSkreech> of course :)
[08:45] <intelikey> !find ^cp
[08:45] <ubotu> Found: cpio, cpp, cpp-3.3, cpp-3.3-doc, cpp-3.4 (and 25 others)
[08:45] <radotsiahaan> it state in comsole etho, lo, sito
[08:45] <intelikey> still a big list
[08:45] <radotsiahaan> i dont know where land dard
[08:45] <radotsiahaan> i dont know where is lan card
[08:45] <intelikey> !find '^cp '
[08:45] <ubotu> Package/file '^cp does not exist in feisty
[08:45] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: for sudo ifconfig -a ?
[08:46] <radotsiahaan> ya
[08:46] <radotsiahaan> i have
[08:46] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: then you are right one of the cards did not install correctly
[08:47] <radotsiahaan> if threre are 2 lan card installed
[08:47] <radotsiahaan> what should write in console?
[08:47] <innovati> man, my X server is wonky, I upgraded kernal and now I can't get nvidia acceleration installed or startx
[08:48] <innovati> I had to sudo gdm just to get into kde
[08:48] <innovati> any idea on how I can reboot my system without having to hack everywhere just to get to kde?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: I'm not sure and  I have to go :(
[08:48] <DaSkreech> intelikey: want to loan some help ?
[08:48] <radotsiahaan> yaa...
[08:49] <intelikey> with interest DaSkreech
[08:49] <DaSkreech> intelikey: rate?
[08:49] <radotsiahaan> i have some question
[08:49] <DaSkreech> innovati: fix X :)
[08:49] <intelikey> well i'm network illiterate so no help there.
[08:49] <innovati> DaSkreech: how do I do that, it doesn't recognize the nvidia driver, and so no useable screens are found
[08:49] <DaSkreech> innovati: I'm guessing you need to reinatll the nvidia drivers and linux-modules
[08:50] <intelikey> innovati use the nv driver
[08:50] <innovati> DaSkreech: even when I manually change the driver back to the generic 'nv' it still won't work without acceleration
[08:50] <DaSkreech> innovati: read up on !nvidia, join #ubuntu-effects or use nv
[08:50] <innovati> nv same thing
[08:51] <innovati> ubuntu-effects ?  my machine won't do beryl or any of that rubbish lol
[08:51] <DaSkreech> intelikey: that's ok at least look into scooping up some more help for him or decent avenues for him to explaore
[08:51] <DaSkreech> innovati: regardless they know more about accelerated drivers than the average person here does
[08:51] <innovati> haha oh the generic linux channel
[08:52] <DaSkreech> intelikey: :-) they will eat him it's a first time linux user.
[08:52] <intelikey> innovati that wasn't for you.
[08:52] <intelikey> DaSkreech they  won't bite too hard.
[08:52] <DaSkreech> intelikey: In any case throw him a few sites and see if it's a chipset error I guess
[08:52] <intelikey> and he'll appriceate you more
[08:53] <DaSkreech> I'm sure he has no idea why a network card wo't come up
[08:53] <DaSkreech> Good night all
[08:53] <intelikey> good night
[08:53] <DaSkreech> radotsiahaan: if it helps you can ask in #ubuntu as well. The answer from there would be as helpful
[08:54] <innovati> thanks for pointing me to ubuntu-effects
[08:57] <intelikey> innovati and you could use 'vesa' driver until you get the nvidia driver working   ?
[08:59] <bohem> hello
[08:59] <bohem> beszel itt valaki magyarul?
[09:00] <jussi01> bohem: what language is that?
[09:00] <bohem> hungary
[09:00] <jussi01> !hu
[09:00] <ubotu> Magyar nyelv segtsget az #ubuntu-hu csatornn tall
[09:02] <DisabledDuck> anybody know why i can't connect to #ubuntu?
[09:04] <jussi01> DisabledDuck: they have some weird screening, try joining #ubuntu-ops and asking there
[09:04] <intelikey> DisabledDuck not regestered ?
[09:04] <intelikey> !register
[09:04] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:05] <innovati> okay I'm in and fixed, thanks for you help in pointing me to ubuntu-effects
[09:10] <QQmelo> hi all ppl
[09:11] <radotsiahaan> excuse me pal
[09:11] <radotsiahaan> can i join with u all
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> radotsiahaan: eh?
[09:12] <radotsiahaan> yup
[09:12] <radotsiahaan> i wanna ask something
[09:12] <intelikey> !ask
[09:12] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:13] <intelikey> !patiants
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patiants - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <intelikey> !patients
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patients - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <intelikey> well bother says poo
[09:13] <Daisuke_Ido> !patience
[09:13] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:13] <Daisuke_Ido> think GnR
[09:14] <Daisuke_Ido> worst song of the 20th century
[09:14] <intelikey> oh it's the other kind     of patience
[09:14] <Daisuke_Ido> (and bear in mind, that's the same century that brought us MacArthur Park
[09:14] <intelikey> my bad.
[09:15] <intelikey> GnR ?
[09:15] <Daisuke_Ido> Guns and Roses...
[09:15] <intelikey> that's like supposed to be music or something
[09:16] <Daisuke_Ido> not good music, though.
[09:17] <Daisuke_Ido> but that's beside the point, was just providing a mental connection that you didn't catch :)
[09:17] <ubuntu> Przepraszam czy jest kto z polski
[09:18] <intelikey> yeah seeing that (assuming that group has a song by that name) i've never heard it,  it was kinda hard to catch.
[09:18] <intelikey> !po
[09:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <intelikey> !pl
[09:19] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:19] <ubuntu> dziki
[09:20] <intelikey> !de
[09:20] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:26] <intelikey> is there any concivable use to flash on a low end machine ?
[09:27] <intelikey> s/to/'of,for'/
[09:36] <pitypaw> Does anyone know how to add gusty's repository only for compiz?
[09:37] <intelikey> someone knows better than advise that...
[09:39] <radotsiahaan> hoi
[09:42] <radotsiahaan> equal bride connection at window for linux
[09:43] <radotsiahaan> hallo
[09:44] <radotsiahaan> any one person want help me..
[09:44] <icecruncher> what about
[09:44] <icecruncher> ?
[09:44] <radotsiahaan> networing for linux
[09:44] <radotsiahaan> networking for linux
[09:44] <icecruncher> radotsiahaan: please ask the question
[09:46] <radotsiahaan> using window. i take bride conneting for networking
[09:46] <radotsiahaan> and then i try use linux
[09:47] <radotsiahaan> what egual or the same for brige connetion in linux
[09:48] <icecruncher> radotsiahaan: you mean bridge?
[09:49] <radotsiahaan> yup
[09:49] <icecruncher> radotsiahaan: I don't understand what you want to do
[09:50] <radotsiahaan> sory..bridge connetion is true
[09:50] <radotsiahaan> not brige
[09:51] <radotsiahaan> i mean
[09:52] <radotsiahaan> i want to create a small networking but in 2 place
[09:52] <radotsiahaan> not one room or one location
[09:53] <icecruncher> radotsiahaan: you want a small network in two places? then bridge them?
[09:53] <radotsiahaan> important.. i use one server to cover all pc
[09:54] <radotsiahaan> so one location there is server primary and another location for server secondary
[09:56] <radotsiahaan> two server using linux, and another pc in 2 location using windows
[09:58] <radotsiahaan> so for transfer actually i still using window for all pc (inculding server primary and secondary) take bridge connetion
[09:58] <radotsiahaan> now
[09:59] <radotsiahaan> server(primary and secondary) using linux, how about the name in linux for about that?
[09:59] <radotsiahaan> and how i do...
[09:59] <icecruncher> radotsiahaan: sorry, dunno
[09:59] <radotsiahaan> ye..
[10:00] <radotsiahaan> yea..create a small network
[10:03] <radotsiahaan> i mean small network in 2 place
[10:18] <radotsiahaan> hey pals
[10:18] <radotsiahaan> still there
[10:18] <radotsiahaan> u know about the feature bridge connection in windows xp
[10:19] <radotsiahaan> that can join 2 nic in one computer become one as welll
[10:19] <radotsiahaan> become 1 nic as well
[10:20] <vecina> help: libncurses.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:20] <radotsiahaan> is the feature provided in linux ubuntu
[10:20] <radotsiahaan> pls answer my queswtion
[10:20] <radotsiahaan> thx
[10:29] <toorent> hi, its a stupid question, but how can i find out what kind of ubuntu do i have? i mean feisty, or edgy?
[10:29] <wolferine> um
[10:29] <wolferine> didnt you download an ISO?
[10:30] <toorent> yes, i did
[10:30] <wolferine> look at the ISO
[10:30] <wolferine> and buy yourself a marker
[10:30] <wolferine> and write it on the CD :)
[10:30] <pawitp> radotsiahaan: still here
[10:30] <toorent> ok:) i'll see it
[10:31] <pawitp> radotsiahaan: I know what you're talking about
[10:31] <pawitp> radotsiahaan: And it is available under linux
[10:31] <msl> toorent: cat /etc/issue
[10:31] <pawitp> radotsiahaan: but only via the commandline
[10:32] <pawitp> radotsiahaan: see: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bridge/index.html
[10:32] <toorent> thanks wolferine, it works:)
[10:33] <wolferine> :)
[10:35] <radotsiahaan> so pawitp what must i do?
[10:35] <radotsiahaan> i listen
[10:35] <pawitp> radotsiahaan: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bridge/index.html
[10:35] <xst> In feisty .Xdefaults / .Xresources is apparently not read upon login as in edgy. I used to configure the font size of emacs in here. What should I do now?
[10:36] <pawitp> radotsiahaan: I'll give you a more ubuntu specific instruction
[10:38] <pawitp> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[10:38] <pawitp> There
[10:38] <pawitp> !bridge
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bridge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <radotsiahaan> ok thc pawitp
[10:46] <radotsiahaan> the bridge utils can not be installed
[10:46] <radotsiahaan> do u have another links
[10:46] <radotsiahaan> 2 download
[10:47] <[ifroog] > i am downloading a 4.3G file and it ends up with only 308M file ??
[10:48] <[ifroog] > Even while downloading wget and firefox showes that its downloading a 308M file ..
[10:48] <[ifroog] > why so ??
[10:49] <roho> have you read the manpage for wget yet?
[10:51] <fusiogen> bonjour, je voudrai savoir si winamp existe on nux:)
[10:52] <Jucato> !fr | fusiogen
[10:52] <ubotu> fusiogen: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:55] <fusiogen> !fr | all
[10:55] <ubotu> all: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:23] <[ifroog] > roho, sorry, i did.. but i used the -c and -t 0 options only..
[11:31] <eagles0513875> !decoder
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about decoder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <eagles0513875> what is the name of the flac decoder i need to download
[11:33] <eagles0513875> !falc
[11:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about falc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:33] <eagles0513875> !flac
[11:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:33] <[ifroog] > how can i download large files :(
[11:33] <[ifroog] > greater than 2 gb ??
[11:34] <Gumpo> When i try to install ANY _ubuntu 7.04 release, i get an error during formatting - "The ext3 file system creation in partition #1 of *drive* failed." Can anyone tell me how to get around this?
[11:34] <eagles0513875> ?
[11:34] <^V^> [ifroog] : why can't you just download them?
[11:34] <Blissex> [ifroog] : use a protocol that supports files greater than 2GiB.
[11:34] <eagles0513875> [ifroog] : do u have the hard drive space
[11:34] <eagles0513875> Gumpo: how old is the drive ur installing on
[11:35] <[ifroog] > eagles0513875, yes. i do
[11:35] <eagles0513875> ok
[11:35] <eagles0513875> what r u trying to download
[11:35] <Gumpo> i've tried to several drives. my older one is IDE and about 250 gigs, my newer one is SATA 3.0gbs, 500gb.
[11:35] <[ifroog] > http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/kubuntu/feisty/release/kubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.iso
[11:35] <[ifroog] > that ^^
[11:35] <eagles0513875> interesting cuz i have sata 150 drives in my desktop with no problems
[11:35] <Gumpo> Using the guided "format whole drive" option, it always fails.
[11:36] <eagles0513875> could be a sata2 glitch in the kubuntu install
[11:36] <eagles0513875> Gumpo: try this do u have a version of edgy hand
[11:36] <eagles0513875> y
[11:36] <[ifroog] > Blissex, huh, like ftp ?
[11:36] <^V^> [ifroog] : have you tried different mirror?
[11:36] <Gumpo> Well, as i said, it also had the same problem on an IDE drive.
[11:36] <eagles0513875> try wget and then the link
[11:36] <Blissex> [ifroog] : depends on the version of FTP and the server and client.
[11:36] <[ifroog] > yes, i tired 5 ..
[11:36] <^V^> try an ftp link
[11:36] <[ifroog] > ok
[11:36] <Gumpo> You mean a copy of Edgy Eft handy?
[11:36] <eagles0513875> yep
[11:37] <eagles0513875> Blissex: couldnt he use the wget command in the command line and have it download that way
[11:37] <Gumpo> i'm sure i do, let me check.
[11:37] <eagles0513875> try install that if u dont have problems installing that then u can do a fully version upgrade from edgy
[11:37] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[11:37] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:37] <eagles0513875> that is a really handy site
[11:37] <Blissex> eagles0513875: it depends on the server too...
[11:37] <[ifroog] > Blissex, cool, over ftp it worked :) how come ??
[11:38] <eagles0513875> [ifroog] : y r u downloading it from a government mirror
[11:38] <Blissex> [ifroog] : well, again depends on server etc. Some FTP or HTTP servers support large files, some don't.
[11:38] <Blissex> [ifroog] : depends which version of the protocol one uses.
[11:38] <eagles0513875> also dont forget since its a government mirror they r goign to have soem rather tight security on there too
[11:39] <Gumpo> Yup, i've got 6.10 right here.
[11:39] <eagles0513875> try installing that and see if u have the same problem
[11:39] <Gumpo> Nope, it installs fine.
[11:39] <eagles0513875> and then ill help u do a full upgrade from edgy to feisty
[11:39] <eagles0513875> go ahead and put that on
[11:40] <eagles0513875> then u can do a full upgrade without a reinstall using apt
[11:40] <Gumpo> I was hoping their was an easier way. :-/
[11:40] <fritzroy15> can I get a link on how to update kubuntu dapper to kubuntu edgy...i really want to run beryl :(
[11:41] <eagles0513875> fritzroy15: take a look at this
[11:41] <eagles0513875> !sourcomatic
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourcomatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[11:41] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:41] <fritzroy15> can I get a link on how to update kubuntu dapper to kubuntu edgy...i really want to run beryl :(
[11:41] <Linux_Galore> fritzroy15: Beryl I would classify still as not being functional
[11:42] <eagles0513875> Gumpo: what other partitions do u have on ur drive
[11:42] <fritzroy15> well i saw it running on ubuntu systems
[11:42] <Linux_Galore> fritzroy15: If you doing an update just for Beryl save yourself the grief
[11:43] <eagles0513875> Gumpo: also it could be that u have a bad burn on the cd that is causing the trouble u might want to reburn the cd as well or at least have it run the check cd for defects option before loading for setup
[11:43] <fritzroy15> but i really like that 3d environment
[11:43] <Gumpo> None on the same drive, i used Qparted to delete the only other partition that was there.
[11:43] <Linux_Galore> fritzroy15: yes, you may have seen youtube video's of select features working but many thing dont work and they dont show you your desktop crashing every few hours
[11:43] <Linux_Galore> things*
[11:44] <eagles0513875> did u get my pm Gumpo
[11:44] <fritzroy15> well i have a friend running sabayon with pre-installed beryl and it works like a charm
[11:44] <eagles0513875> sabyon suxs
[11:44] <eagles0513875> major
[11:44] <Gumpo> yes, but it says i cant respond for some reason.
[11:44] <Linux_Galore> fritzroy15: its not really 3D, its a 2D desktop with 3D effects
[11:44] <eagles0513875> !register
[11:44] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:44] <eagles0513875> that is y Gumpo
[11:44] <fritzroy15> still...if i don't like it I can revert
[11:45] <fritzroy15> Linux_Galore:still
[11:45] <eagles0513875> gumpo let me know when u have registered
[11:45] <fritzroy15> Linux_Galore:can you give me a hand in updating to edgy ? ^^
[11:45] <Linux_Galore> fritzroy15: yeah its easy to disable but Beryl/Compiz is unfinished and KDE really wont be fully working till around 4.1
[11:45] <Gumpo> Yeah i dont think im going to bother registering it.
[11:46] <fritzroy15> Linux_Galore:can you give me a hand in updating to edgy ? ^^
[11:46] <Gumpo> I just created a seperate channel, join 'freemysemen' instead.
[11:46] <Linux_Galore> fritzroy15: I did a clean install so dont look at me
[11:46] <fritzroy15> darn....
[11:47] <fritzroy15> btw
[11:47] <fritzroy15> i have automatix running on dapper
[11:47] <Linux_Galore> fritzroy15: I just backed up /home then did a new install
[11:47] <fritzroy15> will it be affected if i upgrade to edgy?
[11:47] <Linux_Galore> fritzroy15: try kubextra   www.kde-apps.org
[11:48] <radotsiahaan> how to instal program as source code in linux?
[11:48] <radotsiahaan> i confuse because there are no file with extension exe
[11:48] <radotsiahaan> just extension c
[11:48] <Linux_Galore> fritzroy15: depends how many things you customised in the install, my installs usually go into the realms of weird after a few weeks so updates never work
[11:49] <Jucato> !compile | radotsiahaan
[11:49] <ubotu> radotsiahaan: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:49] <[ifroog] > Blissex, ok :) thanks ..
[11:50] <Linux_Galore> fritzroy15: sorry the apps called  kubxtra
[11:52] <Linux_Galore> more newbies should use kubxtra is actually fixes allot of the problems that newbies have http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kubxtra?content=57957
[11:56] <fritzroy15> Linux_Galore: started updating:) btw, i uppgraded from breezy to dapper and it works great...hoping 4 the same with breezy ^^
[11:56] <smylanakis> hello.. is there anybody that can tell me how to install the nvidia drivers to kubuntu step by step since i am really new to kubuntu ?
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[11:56] <fritzroy15> Linux_Galore: started updating:) btw, i uppgraded from breezy to dapper and it works great...hoping 4 the same with edgy ^^
[12:02] <Pupeno2> smylanakis: probably you can find that on the wiki.
[12:03] <khaije> my ia32 libs w ubuntu 7.04 on amd64 haven't been working, i think it might have been an update that broke it... how can i check this?
[12:04] <smylanakis> pupeno2 where is that my friend ? i am new in kubuntu
[12:05] <eagles0513875> u running the 32bit or 64bit khaije
[12:05] <Pupeno2> smylanakis: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/
[12:05] <Pupeno2> smylanakis: or http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:05] <khaije> well right now i'm talking about my desktop whick is 64
[12:08] <smylanakis> thank you pupone2
[12:08] <khaije> eagles0513875: why do you ask?
[12:08] <eagles0513875> j/w
[12:08] <eagles0513875> cuz im running the 64bit version on an amd64 with no issues
[12:08] <eagles0513875> atm at least
[12:11] <Pupeno2> Trying to use crm with Kmail I get the error: "Couldn't open the file:  mailreaver.crm". Any ideas?
[12:12] <animimotus> hi
[12:12] <malik__> which ones are good p2p clients besides torrents?
[12:13] <malik__> !p2p
[12:13] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[12:13] <animimotus> it's normal that sudo update-grub reinitialate my grub and forget the manual changes I have made?
[12:13] <plontaj> hallo I have a problem
[12:14] <plontaj> what program burn files mdf/mds ??
[12:17] <plontaj> mdf/mds files ? wat program burn this files?
[12:19] <milluska> hi can anyone help with the wireless network configuration?
[12:22] <plontaj> I found mdf2iso and k3b
[12:22] <plontaj> thx bye
[12:30] <radotsiahaan> i surrender
[12:30] <radotsiahaan> i can not find
[12:31] <radotsiahaan> how to instal the bridge utils
[12:31] <radotsiahaan> any one can help
[12:31] <radotsiahaan> plzz...
[12:31] <radotsiahaan> this if for my exam
[12:32] <Pupeno2> for those trying to do something, it'll be better if you say "I've done this, but it fails with this error", than "can somebody help me".
[12:32] <radotsiahaan> i have the bridge-utils but i cant compile
[12:32] <radotsiahaan> ./configue just make me awful
[12:34] <Pupeno2> radotsiahaan: error?
[12:34] <Pupeno2> radotsiahaan: and why aren't you installing *the package*?
[12:34] <radotsiahaan> what`s that
[12:34] <radotsiahaan> where can i download
[12:35] <radotsiahaan> i use kubuntu 6.06
[12:35] <piranesi> is there anyone who could veritfy this behavior? http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147081
[12:35] <Pupeno2> radotsiahaan: the package? the stardad way to install software, the only one that should be used unless you know what you aro doing or want to learn. Fire your favourite package manager: adept, aptitude, synaptic, search and install packages.
[12:35] <Lynoure> piranesi: more relevant people will look at it if you include a small summary of what it is about... e.g. I'm not any help for 64bit things.
[12:36] <Lynoure> piranesi: or, actually, anything installed from Gentoo.
[12:36] <piranesi> Lynoure, tnx :)
[12:36] <radotsiahaan> so what must i do to instal bridge-utils
[12:37] <radotsiahaan> i am out of my mind
[12:37] <Lynoure> piranesi: that thing works fine for me on my lappy, at least (Kubuntu, not Gentoo)
[12:37] <Pupeno2> radotsiahaan: run adept and search for it.
[12:38] <piranesi> Lynoure, does it work even if you boot without the line in fstab?
[12:39] <Lynoure> piranesi: yes, for usb-devices at least
[12:39] <piranesi> Lynoure, for usb-devices works for me too, I think that is a thing that happens only with hard disks
[12:40] <Lynoure> piranesi: ah, reread
[12:40] <erz-> I have mounted with fstab a HDD over network, and in some directories i have no files ... why ?
[12:40] <radotsiahaan> still dont find
[12:41] <Lynoure> piranesi: if one mounts it to /mnt, why should it show in /media?
[12:41] <piranesi> because /media is different form system:/media
[12:42] <piranesi> I have nothing mounted in /media, but I see a lot of things in system:/media
[12:42] <Lynoure> piranesi: if one wants it to show in system:/media, better mount it to /media, /mnt is deprecated anyway, is it not...
[12:42] <Lynoure> piranesi: what kind of things you see?
[12:42] <Lynoure> piranesi: I see only and only the things under /media
[12:43] <Lynoure> Whether that's a bug is matter of specs or opinion...
[12:43] <piranesi> I see floppy who is in /mnt, cdrom, I see the hard disks that are in /mnt (with a line in fstab)
[12:45] <erz-> Some of files can be viewed with smb but they arent shown under my cifs mount
[12:49] <Jucato> piranesi: the media:/ (which is what system:/media links to) actually reads the contents of fstab, that's afaik. so it's not a bug, but a feature. again, afaik only
[12:50] <ertan> hello
[12:50] <ertan> hi !
[12:51] <piranesi> Jucato, maybe but I saw that even if I set correctly fstab I need to reboot to see the contents in media:/
[12:53] <Jucato> piranesi: what do you mean? as long as it is in fstab, it doesn't matter if it mounts to /mnt, /media, or anywhere, it will show up in media:/
[12:55] <piranesi> yes, I mean: 1) I'm mounting /dev/hda1 that has no entries in fstab... I can't see it in media:/ 2) if mount hda1 after I put an entry in fstab I should see it in media:/ but I see it only after a system reboot
[12:56] <Jucato> #1 is normal. no fstab entry, no entry in media:/, #2, I can only guess that KDE needed a sort of "refreshing" to sync with the changes in fstab
[12:58] <piranesi> yes, I hope that it's so
[12:58] <piranesi> I would like to know if other people too have these behaviour with kde
[12:59] <Jucato> yes that happens to me, iirc
[01:00] <ksivaji> Jucato hi dude
[01:00] <Jucato> hi ksivaji
[01:00] <piranesi> iirc = ?
[01:01] <gemidjy> why kdenlive is not in the repositories
[01:02] <Jucato> piranesi: If I Remember Correctly
[01:03] <Jucato> gemidjy: because no one has packaged it yet? or there's not package from Debian (sid) yet at the time Ubuntu synced with Debian?
[01:03] <piranesi> jucato tnx :)
[01:03] <gemidjy> Jucato: actually I think there are packages, that is why I am amazed :)
[01:04] <Jucato> gemidjy: there are packages. but made by whom? when I said "no one has packaged it yet", I meant that no one from the official Ubuntu packagers have made one or sponsored one
[01:05] <gemidjy> Jucato: aham, then why they haven't? It is useful application to be in the main repositories
[01:05] <Jucato> gemidjy: usual reasons. manpower, interest, etc. no one has stepped up to do it. and no one can force anyone to do it
[01:06] <Jucato> whether it would be in main or universe or multiverse is a different question
[01:06] <ksivaji>   Jucato   is it possible for anyone to take channel privillage from anyone
[01:07] <Jucato> ksivaji: no one has channel privilege except ops
[01:07] <Jucato> and we don't give any channel privilege (voice, auto op, etc)
[01:34] <ksivaji> Jucato tell me some simple project in foss
[01:37] <polopolo> Hello all, can I get support on the playstation 3 version of (K)ubuntu?
[01:38] <polopolo> Or not?
[01:39] <DarkMageZ> anyone using amarok 1.4.6 & last.fm ?
[01:39] <polopolo> Nobody knows the answer?
[01:40] <polopolo> I go to ubuntu
[01:40] <pag> DarkMageZ, mm... is there a problem with that combination, or are you just doing a survey?
[01:41] <DarkMageZ> pag, i'm having an issue. the track submitting isn't working for me :(
[01:41] <mikev> hi
[01:41] <pag> DarkMageZ, oh, that: last.fm is down at the moment, I guess it'll be up again in a few hours
[01:42] <pag> !hi | mikev
[01:42] <ubotu> mikev: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:42] <gemidjy> pag: it's up here
[01:42] <Jucato> ksivaji: I don't understand what you're trying to ask me
[01:43] <gemidjy> ksivaji: Psi
[01:43] <DarkMageZ> pag, i can reach the website. so you're saying that the server were the listened to songs is sent to is down?
[01:43] <mikev> (disclaimer: linux noob) i'm trying to compile an application  with a static library instead of a shared one, but i'm getting errors. The static libraries are both created with the "ar" command, but when I compile the application it whines about undefined references
[01:43] <DarkMageZ> where*
[01:43] <mikev> s/command/application
[01:44] <mikev> the application is just one c++ file: qmp3join.cc
[01:44] <pag> DarkMageZ, I'm not sure anymore, but I've seen that problem quite a lot, and it always fixed itself in a few hours.
[01:44] <mikev> it creates the object file for it -> qmp3file.o and then tries to link it with the other libraries and fails :/
[01:45] <mikev> oh, is this the right channel for these kind of questions?
[01:45] <DarkMageZ> pag, ah. ok. i'll give it some time then
[01:45] <ksivaji> Jucato  i want to see the source code of some software so tell me some simple software whose code is visible
[01:46] <ksivaji> gemidjy what is "  psi"  <gemidjy> ksivaji: Psi
[01:46] <Jucato> mikev: try ##linux, ##c++ or the app's support channel
[01:46] <ksivaji> BluesKaj hi
[01:46] <gemidjy> ksivaji: u wanted simple foss project
[01:46] <ksivaji> gemidjy yes
[01:46] <gemidjy> ksivaji: psi.im
[01:46] <gemidjy> ksivaji: no, sorry psi-im.org/
[01:46] <BluesKaj> 'morning all
[01:46] <BluesKaj> hi ksivaji
[01:46] <_4strO> yop
[01:47] <ksivaji> gemidjy ok thank you
[01:47] <Jucato> ksivaji: all FOSS project's source code are visible... you can start checking any app's source code by downloading it using "apt-get source <pacakge_name>"
[01:47] <gemidjy> if he's using debian based distro :)
[01:47] <Jucato> gemidjy: he is in #kubuntu. that's a safe presumption :)
[01:47] <_4strO> gemidjy: we are on Kubuntu ... so ihe should ...
[01:47] <gemidjy> :))
[01:47] <Jucato> of course, the presumption isn't always 100% true. but then...
[01:48] <_4strO> go awaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
[01:48] <gemidjy> ok but he asked pretty generic question so I thought he might be generic in general (buzz-word, gener*)
[01:48] <BluesKaj> we have a few gentoo types in here all the time
[01:48] <_4strO> fng spy
[01:48] <gemidjy> ahh spies
[01:48] <gemidjy> :)
[01:48] <BluesKaj> they're alonely bunch :)
[01:48] <_4strO> f*^ing spys
[01:48] <_4strO> spies :p
[01:49] <gemidjy> gentoo masochists
[01:49] <Jucato> anyway, I don't think there's a single app there that's "simple" enough to study at first glance... except for the Hello package
[01:49] <Jucato> hm.... let's not get into distro name calling please
[01:49] <_4strO> Jucato: the cowsay program :p
[01:53] <gemidjy> BluesKaj: blasphemer
[01:54] <BluesKaj> I had to try it ..as a "former" windoze user ...the addiction proved overwhelming ...for one day :)
[01:55] <DarkMageZ> i couldn't run vista... too many known security vulnerabilities unpatched...
[01:57] <BluesKaj> crappy sound drivers at the outset ...didn't support my tvtuner card or my KB and no drivers available ... a disaster IMO
[01:58] <enry> hi
[02:00] <BluesKaj> I see some articles referring to Kubuntu 7.10 as being an almost complete overhaul of the desktop , altho KDE 3.5.7 will be the default for now, 'til KDE 4 is launched
[02:00] <ksivaji> !repo
[02:00] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:00] <MikeMike> does anybody know  how can i install  firefox in kubuntu? i already  unpacked the file in desktop...
[02:01] <fdoving_> BluesKaj: i wonder where they get that from, 3.6.6 -> 3.5.7 can hardly be called a complete overhaul :)
[02:01] <pag> MikeMike, open konsole and type "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"
[02:01] <DarkMageZ> MikeMike, firefox is available in the repositories... or do you have a good reason to run mozilla's build?
[02:02] <BluesKaj> yes, fdoving_ i think they mis-spoke on the desktop issue ...some  confusion there
[02:02] <Jucato> BluesKaj: not if 3.5.8 is launched within the next 2 months or so
[02:02] <fdoving_> Jucato: still nothing near an overhaul.
[02:02] <chris_scummette> hi
[02:03] <Jucato> fdoving_: yeah. was poking on his 2nd sentence
[02:03] <MikeMike> mozilla build?im sorry m not yet familiar with the terms  coz i just recently switched to  kubuntu in frustration with windows :)
[02:03] <fdoving_> Jucato: oh, :)
[02:03] <Jucato> MikeMike: why not install it from our repositories? using Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager
[02:03] <DarkMageZ> MikeMike, as pag said. if you open the terminal. just type "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[02:04] <_4strO> MikeMike: if you want firefox just type in a console : sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:04] <chris_scummette> can someone tell me why iv got this planet icon on my task bar? when i clik on it it says "new server"
[02:04] <chris_scummette> i had to make a mistake somewhere
[02:04] <_4strO> chris_scummette: for adding new server easyaly ?
[02:04] <chris_scummette> yes
[02:04] <chris_scummette> the applet i guess
[02:05] <chris_scummette> how to remove it?
[02:05] <_4strO> right click on it
[02:05] <chris_scummette> it says "new server"
[02:05] <BluesKaj> MikeMike, a hint : if you are going to compile pkgs download them to /user/home ...apt assumes this as the default dir so it's much easier to use rather than having to cd to the desktop while building the pkg.
[02:06] <micman> shiva r u there?
[02:06] <BluesKaj> or move the pkg to use/home
[02:06] <BluesKaj> err /user/home
[02:06] <_4strO> chris_scummette: your taskbar is blocked ?
[02:06] <chris_scummette> nope
[02:06] <micman> friends i have been using linux for the past 2 days.
[02:06] <micman> i mean ubuntu..
[02:07] <chris_scummette> ah ok
[02:07] <BluesKaj> ubuntu is linux
[02:07] <chris_scummette> i found it
[02:07] <chris_scummette> i got bad cliking i guess
[02:07] <micman> my friend installed me a dual boot with win XP.
[02:07] <chris_scummette> i opened a "new" bar
[02:07] <micman> now i have a doubt..
[02:07] <flake> chris - you mean a panel?
[02:07] <chris_scummette> im gonna lock it to prevent this now
[02:07] <_4strO> chris_scummette: you have a little arrow on the left of your icon
[02:07] <chris_scummette> whatever thanks _4strO
[02:07] <_4strO> just click on it
[02:07] <chris_scummette> yes i found
[02:07] <chris_scummette> ^
[02:07] <chris_scummette> ^^
[02:08] <_4strO> :p
[02:08] <BluesKaj> micman, just ask yer question
[02:08] <chris_scummette> sometimes you ask toomuch to yourself while the problem is evident !
[02:08] <micman> while installing linux my friend has set the max space for linux to be 2 gb
[02:08] <micman> now i cant upgrade becoz the space is too less.
[02:08] <chris_scummette> yes flake a "new panel" ti talk right
[02:09] <chris_scummette> ;)
[02:10] <hilary> Hello everyone =)
[02:10] <micman> now i would can u help me increase the space without lossing data in windows
[02:10] <chris_scummette> hi hilary
[02:10] <nosrednaeki1> hello hilary
[02:11] <chris_scummette> micman
[02:11] <chris_scummette> create a new partition on your hard drive
[02:11] <micman> ok
[02:11] <micman> plz continue chris
[02:11] <chris_scummette> just get the app
[02:11] <chris_scummette> Gnome prtition editor
[02:11] <chris_scummette> partirion
[02:11] <micman> what do u mean by app
[02:11] <chris_scummette> erf
[02:12] <chris_scummette> application
[02:12] <micman> ok
[02:12] <chris_scummette> a program you download and install to do things
[02:12] <chris_scummette> you know adept
[02:12] <micman> ok
[02:12] <chris_scummette> open adept manager
[02:12] <micman> ok
[02:12] <flake> gparted  ?
[02:12] <chris_scummette> and get the GNOME partition Editor
[02:12] <chris_scummette> yes flake
[02:13] <micman> ok
[02:13] <oirdimed> hy , some one konw the irc of kubunto frensh please
[02:13] <micman> plz continue chris
[02:13] <gemidjy> where in Kubuntu MenuEntryHeight is set for kicker ? (it's not in ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc)
[02:13] <Jucato> !fr | oirdimed
[02:13] <ubotu> oirdimed: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:13] <chris_scummette> oirdimed: #kubuntu-fr
[02:13] <nosrednaeki1> gemidjy: the panel?
[02:13] <micman> what was that?
[02:14] <oirdimed> thanks
[02:14] <chris_scummette> you got it micman?
[02:14] <chris_scummette> already?
[02:14] <gemidjy> nosrednaeki1: nope
[02:14] <gemidjy> can't find it
[02:14] <micman> partly
[02:14] <nosrednaeki1> gemidjy: what is kicker?
[02:14] <nosrednaeki1> the pnel right?
[02:14] <gemidjy> yes
[02:14] <nosrednaeki1> there is no menu entry for it.I think it would just confuse people.
[02:14] <chris_scummette> ok, when you will have it on your system things will seem much clearer
[02:14] <nosrednaeki1> did you lose your panel?
[02:15] <micman> i mean i dont have Gnome partition edi.
[02:15] <chris_scummette> then install it
[02:15] <micman> ok
[02:15] <ksivaji> micman hey what  man
[02:16] <micman> my main concern is i m doubtful whether it will crash the data in my other os
[02:16] <micman> siva u r there..
[02:16] <micman>  i have been waitin for u.
[02:16] <micman> chris is doin a good job helping me out.
[02:16] <chris_scummette> micman, it depends if you have free space left or not....
[02:17] <ksivaji> micman do u have gparted
[02:17] <waylandbill_> micman: before you do anything with partitions backup, backup, backup.
[02:17] <chris_scummette> waylandbill_:  i was on to tell him the same
[02:17] <micman> i have a 40GB hard disk and i can clear a separate drive in Windows for the purpose..cris.
[02:17] <chris_scummette> backup.
[02:17] <ksivaji> waylandbill_ he got only 40gb that to dual boot
[02:18] <micman> thX waylandbill_  for u r suggestion.
[02:18] <ksivaji> micman
[02:18] <micman> ok friends . now that u have assured me of data safety i m gonna try it out soon.
[02:19] <ksivaji> micman
[02:19] <chris_scummette> micman: backup before
[02:19] <ksivaji> micman
[02:19] <micman> thX chris_scummette  and waylandbill_
[02:19] <chris_scummette> dont forget to backup
[02:19] <chris_scummette> and try gparted
[02:19] <chris_scummette> its simple to use
[02:20] <micman> ok chris.  shiva lets go offline.tell me the procedure
[02:20] <micman> siva?
[02:20] <micman> siva  where r u?
[02:21] <micman> siva  where r u?
[02:22] <MikeMike> Hello :)  guys, can you suggest a good website regarding learning the basics of kubuntu?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> MikeMike: oh.... so you want to RTFM?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[02:23] <MikeMike> RTFM?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> never mind..
[02:23] <_4strO> Read The Fucking Manual
[02:23] <MikeMike> hehehe sorry newbe here...
[02:23] <fusiogen>   yooooooooooo alllllllllll
[02:23] <MikeMike> hahaha
[02:23] <_4strO> ^^
[02:23] <MikeMike> not really
[02:24] <MikeMike> something like pick and point
[02:24] <ksivaji> MikeMike http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> MikeMike: here's an intro to linux http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/
[02:25] <waylandbill_> !language
[02:25] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> waylandbill_: hence why I said nevermind ;)
[02:26] <micman> see u friends later. thX for u r help.
[02:26] <MikeMike> thanks ksivaji and nosrednaekim
[02:26] <MikeMike> 1111
[02:26] <_4strO> !nvidia
[02:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:26] <MikeMike> nosrednaekim  lol! :)
[02:27] <waylandbill_> MikeMike: the community documentation on the ubuntu and kubuntu wiki's are not a bad read.
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> MikeMike: have fun. (thats what linux is all about)
[02:27] <BluesKaj> I can remember, after installing suse , asking some noob questions in the help channel and receiving that response ..read the man pages , man !
[02:27] <ksivaji> MikeMike  https://help.ubuntu.com/
[02:28] <darkrift_> anyone know about linux on a pocket pc?
[02:29] <darkrift_> and how do you make a shortcut command again.... been years since i did this
[02:29] <BluesKaj> some help channel , a bunch of 14 yr olds with attitude .. I know more than you, hahaha ...it was unbelievable that nobody was monitoring them.
[02:30] <darkrift_> for example, i want to type sinstall <appname> and have it run "sudo apt-get install <appname>"
[02:31] <MikeMike> people,  thanks a lot  for the help. really appreciate it :)
[02:31] <falso0> ghkjhg
[02:31] <falso0> salam
[02:31] <_4strO> darkrift_: ~/.bash_aliases
[02:32] <animimotus> someone has a idea why the command sudo update-grub   reestablish the old menu.lst  I have just edit?
[02:32] <falso0> 
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> animimotus: probably because it doesn't detect whatever partition you manually edited in
[02:32] <noiesmo> animimotus, if you dont want the kernel image listed you need to remove it via apt
[02:33] <animimotus> noiesmo: no I have just add a boot option : vga=...
[02:33] <falso0> 
[02:34] <animimotus> nosrednaekim: oh ok... well... how can I do for the good one ?
[02:35] <MikeMike> btw,  do  you still  use anti-virus/spyware on your ubuntu/kubuntus?
[02:35] <waylandbill_> MikeMike: you don't have to.
[02:35] <MikeMike> how come?
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> MikeMike: you don't need anti virus... firewall you might need if you are not protected (i.e., open wifi)
[02:35] <animimotus> MikeMike: an AV is more for a samba network, for poor windows user if you have some
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> !virus
[02:35] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[02:36] <BluesKaj> !ar | falso0
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <MikeMike>  hhhmmm interesting stuff... i  hate my XP bec of  virus and spywares....
[02:37] <waylandbill_> MikeMike: the biggest reason is many Windows users run as administrator all the time allowing rogue software to affect system files.
[02:38] <MikeMike> Correct
[02:38] <waylandbill_> sometimes, like for some games, you can't run as anything but with admin privs. Poor programming in that respect.
[02:38] <BluesKaj> just wiped Vista off my pc
[02:39] <MikeMike> hahaha
[02:40] <BluesKaj> don't understand all the glowing reviews ...Bill Gates must be bribing reviewers and vendors like crazy
[02:42] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: fan boys
[02:42] <MikeMike> btw, where are you all from?
[02:42] <BluesKaj>  Mandriva has rejected MS advances at some kind of enterprise deal ... basically trying to make Linux enterprise cos pay protection money
[02:42] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: Well, M$ won't release a review unless it's favourable.. or they pay people to lie.
[02:42] <BluesKaj> <--Canada here
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> US
[02:43] <MikeMike> Cool!
[02:43] <BluesKaj> MikeMike, and you ?
[02:44] <_4strO> <--- fr
[02:44] <MikeMike> Manila, Q.C.  here
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> Q.C?
[02:44] <_4strO> Mandrake powaaaaa they dont pactise with hell !
[02:45] <MikeMike> Its Quezon City :)
[02:45] <BluesKaj> philipines
[02:45] <llutz> hi
[02:45] <MikeMike> You got it
[02:45] <MikeMike> :)
[02:45] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: right. Linspire and Xandros did. They're second rate distros IMO anyway. :-)
[02:45] <BluesKaj> <--geography nut
[02:46] <BluesKaj> yeah, i tried xandros ...reminded me of windows
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> well... I thougt manila was there.... but I didn't recognize what q.c. meant.
[02:48] <ksivaji> what "kexec" command will do
[02:48] <BluesKaj> <-- Lake Huron North Channel...Ontario
[02:48] <waylandbill> last time I used Windows xp, I kept single clicking icons and waiting for action that never came. :-)
[02:48] <BluesKaj> hehe , same here waylandbill :)...ain't it a pain
[02:48] <MikeMike> What coo l games are available fo r kubuntu?
[02:49] <MikeMike> What cool games are available for kubuntu?
[02:49] <_4strO> MikeMike: openGL ?
[02:49] <waylandbill> MikeMike: I like tremulous.
[02:49] <BluesKaj> cool games .... nothing cool about some of those dumb games :)
[02:49] <ardchoille> MikeMike: http://www.happypenguin.org/
[02:49] <_4strO> http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2007062002626RVGM
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> I like BZflag
[02:51] <ksivaji>  what "kexec" command will do
[02:51] <BluesKaj> <---old and grumpy , doesn't think a pc should be used for gaming ...a waste of good computing IMO ...Buy an XBox ! :)
[02:52] <_4strO> ksivaji: kexec --help ?
[02:53] <llutz> ksivaji: kexec-tool "This tool is used to load a kernel in memory and reboot into the kernel loaded in memory using the kexec system call."
[02:53] <BluesKaj> BBL . gonna extend my ext3 partition , now that windows is wiped
[02:53] <nosrednaekim> bye
[02:54] <_4strO> so Kexec is for Kernel execution (meen not to kill the kernel :)
[02:55] <ksivaji> llutz  _4strO rebooting your system without invlovment of bootstrap loader right
[02:56] <chris_scummette> kmess is the best
[02:56] <chris_scummette> i didnt try Kmess yet, its fuc**g goo
[02:56] <chris_scummette> good
[02:56] <chris_scummette> :D
[02:57] <MikeMike> bye!
[02:57] <hilary> Hello again =)
[03:03] <hilary> Can somebody help me =(
[03:03] <ksivaji> hilary ye we can
[03:03] <ksivaji> if u cooperate
[03:04] <hilary> I'll try, you may need to bare with me, I am not too smart with computers and stuff
[03:04] <hilary> but the problem I'm having
[03:04] <hilary> is that my computer says my network is connected, and I am able to sign onto MSN, AIM and YIM messenger
[03:05] <hilary> but when I try to go onto a webpage, eg google, it just says Server has timed out
[03:05] <hilary> and it does that for every page I look for
[03:05] <hilary> just wondering if you have ever heard of a problem like that, and if so, if you know a fix
[03:05] <chris_scummette> i has the same problem hilary
[03:05] <chris_scummette> what browser do you use
[03:06] <hilary> Mozilla Firefox
[03:06] <hilary> but I've tried it with Konquerer too
[03:06] <hilary> and it times out on both browsers
[03:06] <chris_scummette> erf
[03:06] <chris_scummette> tried to uninstall and reinstall?
[03:07] <hilary> no =( I havent really tried much, the guys yesterday in here could not suggest much
[03:07] <ksivaji>  hilary type ping google.com and paste the output here
[03:07] <hilary> ok hold on
[03:07] <hilary> PING google.com (72.14.207.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
[03:08] <hilary> 64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (72.14.207.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=102 ms
[03:08] <hilary> 64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (72.14.207.99): icmp_seq=2 ttl=242 time=107 ms
[03:08] <hilary> 64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (72.14.207.99): icmp_seq=3 ttl=242 time=108 ms
[03:08] <hilary> 64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (72.14.207.99): icmp_seq=4 ttl=242 time=104 ms
[03:08] <hilary> 64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (72.14.207.99): icmp_seq=5 ttl=242 time=103 ms
[03:08] <hilary> 64 bytes from eh-in-f99.google.com (72.14.207.99): icmp_seq=6 ttl=242 time=105 ms
[03:08] <hilary> if that helps?
[03:08] <ksivaji> hilary ya you got net connection and it is working
[03:09] <hilary> but it still wont let me connect to web-pages, it just times out =(
[03:10] <hilary> An error occurred while loading http://google.com:
[03:10] <hilary> Timeout on server
[03:10] <hilary>  Connection was to google.com at port 80
[03:10] <hilary> thats the error I get
[03:10] <DarkMageZ> hilary, is this computer and the one that is having webpage problems the same computer?
[03:10] <ksivaji> hilary open firefox from terminal and see what u get
[03:10] <hilary> Darkmage: yes
[03:11] <DarkMageZ> hilary, check your firefox proxy setting.
[03:11] <hilary> How would I do that?
[03:11] <DarkMageZ> hilary, edit > preferences > advanced > networking
[03:12] <hilary> ok I am on the configure prixies bit
[03:13] <DarkMageZ> is it setup as "connect directly"
[03:13] <hilary> Direct connection to the Internet is ticked, yes
[03:15] <DarkMageZ> hmm, that's odd then.
[03:15] <jorik808> maybe the ISP blocks outgoing port 80 and you HAVE to use a proxy
[03:15] <jorik808> my old ISP had that
[03:16] <DarkMageZ> in the terminal what happens if you "wget http://www.google.com/index.html"
[03:16] <hilary> I'll check
[03:17] <hilary> --14:17:05--  http://www.google.com/index.html
[03:17] <hilary>            => `index.html'
[03:17] <hilary> Resolving www.google.com... 66.102.9.147, 66.102.9.104, 66.102.9.99
[03:17] <hilary> Connecting to www.google.com|66.102.9.147|:80...
[03:17] <hilary> I get that
[03:17] <jorik808> well
[03:18] <hilary> not much else is happening
[03:18] <jorik808> you ARE connected to the internet, otherwise wget couldn't translate google.com into 66.102.9.147
[03:18] <jorik808> problem is something is blocking outgoing connections (on port 80)
[03:18] <hilary> Well I can use my net messengers too
[03:18] <jorik808> which ISP do you use ?
[03:19] <jorik808> furthermore, did it used to work and is it broken now, or has it never worked
[03:20] <hilary> it use to work yes
[03:20] <hilary> it worked this morning
[03:20] <hilary> but did this after about... 2 hours of use
[03:20] <DarkMageZ> your isp's website fails to mention anything about a proxy
[03:20] <michael> Hallo
[03:21] <michael> Wie geht das denn hier ?
[03:22] <azzco> Has anyone got gooseegg installed successfully?
[03:22] <michael> What is gooseegg
[03:22] <DarkMageZ> hilary, goto the proxy configuration section again :)
[03:22] <hilary> urmm, ok hold on
[03:23] <hilary> ok I'm there
[03:23] <azzco> a modeling program... actually I meant freyja which seems to be a side project of gooseegg..
[03:23] <hilary> what now?
[03:23] <gemidjy> anyone experienced with ATI x1300 or x1400 card ?
[03:23] <DarkMageZ> hilary, set it to manual config
[03:23] <hilary> ok
[03:23] <hilary> done
[03:23] <iTurtle> Hi. What are ops?
[03:24] <DarkMageZ> hilary, and then put in webcache.blueyonder.co.uk and the port as 8080 and set that for all protocols
[03:24] <iTurtle> I got kicked out from the ubuntu support chat because I typed in ops preceded by an exclamation mark, to ask ubotu what ops are.
[03:24] <michael> i'm from Germany, sorry for my bad english
[03:24] <jorik808> iTurtle: people who have more power on a channel/server (eg able to kick other people out)
[03:24] <llutz> !de|michael
[03:24] <ubotu> michael: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:24] <iTurtle> jorik808: ok.
[03:24] <iTurtle> jorik808, why'd they kick me out?
[03:24] <hilary> oh so I put that webcache. thing in HTTP proxy and click use this proxy server for all protocls?
[03:25] <hilary> ok done
[03:25] <iTurtle> jorik808: I just typed in "!" followed by "ops"
[03:25] <Tm_T> iTurtle: because ! ops is used only for emergency
[03:25] <jorik808> iTurtle: some programs react to people saying "!ops" by "opping them"
[03:25] <DarkMageZ> hilary, and in the port section throw in 8080
[03:25] <hilary> done
[03:25] <hilary> it now has 8080 in all of the boxes
[03:25] <iTurtle> Tm_T: i thought that would ask ubotu what ops are.
[03:25] <DarkMageZ> hilary, now see if the web works
[03:25] <hilary> ok :)
[03:25] <Tm_T> iTurtle: wrong thought
[03:25] <iTurtle> Tm_T: whoops!
[03:25] <Hobbsee> iTurtle: we control the channel, and kick people who are misbehaving.
[03:25] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: yay
[03:25] <hilary> oh wow
[03:26] <Hobbsee> etc
[03:26] <iTurtle> Hobbsee: I wasn't misbehaving.
[03:26] <hilary> I think it worked
[03:26] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: you?
[03:26] <hilary> YAY! =)
[03:26] <Hobbsee> iTurtle: just abusing the !ops call, after being told not to
[03:26] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: me what?
[03:26] <hilary> I owe you a drink Darkmagez =)
[03:26] <hilary> thank you
[03:26] <iTurtle> Hobbsee: I didn't know what !ops did - I thought it would ask ubotu what ops were
[03:27] <DarkMageZ> hilary, i'd suggest writing that down for future reference. webcache.blueyonder.co.uk @ port 8080 :P
[03:27] <Hobbsee> no
[03:27] <Tm_T> gah, iTurtle keeps hilighting me with ! ops
[03:27] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: same here
[03:27] <Tm_T> you too have it in hilight? nice (:
[03:27] <hilary> got it =) (hugs for darkmagez) =) thank you again
[03:27] <iTurtle> Tm_T, Hobbsee: what do you mean? I didn't know it called them.
[03:27] <DarkMageZ> hilary, have fun :)
[03:28] <hilary> =D
[03:28] <Hobbsee> iTurtle: some of us have highlights on "!ops"
[03:28] <Hobbsee> iTurtle: because sometimes it's called incorrectly, or wahtever
[03:28] <iTurtle> Hobbsee: what are highlights?
[03:28] <Hobbsee> big red text
[03:28] <Tm_T> or yellow
[03:28] <Hobbsee> whichever
[03:28] <Tm_T> anything that makes it look important
[03:28] <Hobbsee> text saying "ZOMG THE WORLD IS ON FIRE!!!"
[03:28] <iTurtle> Hobbsee: oh.
[03:28] <Hobbsee> and such
[03:28] <DarkMageZ> and it can trigger other actions like sounds or flashing.
[03:29] <Hobbsee> "please respond to this ASAP"
[03:29] <iTurtle> Hobbsee: respond to what?
[03:29] <dthacker> iTurtle: now that you know more about "it". you could stop typing "it"?
[03:29] <Hobbsee> iTurtle: the ops call.
[03:29] <iTurtle> Hobbsee: ok.
[03:30] <pawitp> Can anyone tell me what windows decorator to use with compiz?
[03:33] <dthacker> pawitp: what is a windows decorator?
[03:33] <fdoving> pawitp: aquamarine is nice for kde.
[03:33] <pawitp> fdoving: Aquamarine keeps saying it's unsupported
[03:34] <fdoving> pawitp: ok, #ubuntu-effects are the experts in this field.
[03:38] <binks> ok if i try start vdr i get an error vdr: please turn off UTF-8 before starting VDR
[03:38] <binks> how do i turn it off
[03:38] <binks> !locale
[03:38] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[03:47] <michael> What can you tell me about installing or deinstalling Programs in Kubuntu ?
[03:48] <pag> !software | michael
[03:48] <ubotu> michael: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[03:49] <kharloss> hi. i have an USB pendrive Kingston, i try to copy some files but the speed is verry low   50/100 kb  / sec
[03:49] <kharloss> what could be the problem ?
[03:49] <ardchoille> !repos | michael
[03:49] <ubotu> michael: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:51] <binks> how can i switch off utf-8
[03:51] <binks> !utf-8
[03:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about utf-8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <michael> What is Add/Remove Programs ?
[04:00] <fritz> hy, installed bery and the sistem seems 2 be a tad slow...can any1 tell me what features i can disable for it 2 run smoother?
[04:02] <Hobbsee> !beryl | fritz
[04:02] <ubotu> fritz: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:02] <ardchoille> try disabling beryl
[04:02] <fritz> haha very funny
[04:02] <fritz> serioulsy now guys...any tips?
[04:02] <michael> Can i uninstall Kate, Kontact, KArm etc. ?
[04:03] <tu_> hello everyone
[04:03] <fritz> hy, installed bery and the sistem seems 2 be a tad slow...can any1 tell me what features i can disable for it 2 run smoother?
[04:03] <tu_> could any1 help out with aMSN problem!
[04:03] <claudio_> !ntfs
[04:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:03] <DarkMageZ> fritz, beryl help is in #ubuntu-effects
[04:04] <fritz> thnx
[04:04] <tu_> i just installed aMSN and it keeps asking me for TLS when i tried installing it it gave me an error.. so did it in the terminal.. but even so amsn keeps asking me for tls when i wanna sign in
[04:05] <DarkMageZ> tu_, is this amsn from the kubuntu repos or the package from the amsn website?
[04:06] <tu_> darkmagez amsn website
[04:06] <tu_> hey how can i use the "tab" like mirc!
[04:06] <tu_> to autoset nicknames!
[04:06] <DarkMageZ> tu_, which package did you install for tls support?
[04:06] <claudio_> !mp3
[04:06] <tu_> darkmagez 86
[04:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:06] <claudio_> hi boys
[04:06] <claudio_> how i can play mp3s on my kubu?
[04:06] <DarkMageZ> tu_, try "sudo apt-get install tcltls"
[04:07] <tu_> darkmagez thts wht i did! and it worked perfectly
[04:07] <claudio_> (i'm a linux newbie) lol
[04:07] <DarkMageZ> claudio_, read what ubotu said :P
[04:07] <claudio_> hmm
[04:08] <tu_> claudio am not an official helper or anything! though i faced the same probs and fixed it by using automatix and instaling the needed codecs
[04:08] <tu_> or simply go for Amarok <<--- excelent media player
[04:08] <claudio_> hmm okay ^^
[04:08] <tu_> but once again im not an official helper this is only my personal experience with such prob!
[04:08] <claudio_> ps: exceuce me for my bad english
[04:08] <DarkMageZ> don't use automatix...
[04:08] <tu_> ok then listen to darkmagez he knows best
[04:09] <DarkMageZ> if you are caught using automatix. no-one in their right mind will help you.
[04:09] <claudio_> do you know windows applications like "cuase sx" "reason" or "fruity loops"?
[04:09] <tu_> unless if ur out of the US darkmagez lol
[04:09] <claudio_> there is some appz like it?
[04:09] <claudio_> there are*
[04:09] <DarkMageZ> tu_, not for legal. but for technical reasons.
[04:09] <tu_> claudio .. get amarok :) next best thing it will download the codecs needed by itself
[04:10] <tu_> darkmagez oh ok.. then should i uninstall it myself aswell ?
[04:10] <DarkMageZ> claudio_, which application do you want mp3 support for?
[04:10] <glauco1> hi, how i can read the rm files?
[04:10] <DarkMageZ> tu_, if things start to break. then reinstall kubuntu. as no-one will help if they find out about your automatix usage.
[04:10] <asso> hy i search for help in french please
[04:11] <DarkMageZ> !restrictedformats > glauco1
[04:11] <tu_> hmm then ill uninstall it :) thanks for the advice
[04:11] <glauco1> !restrictedformats
[04:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:11] <tu_> asso je ne parle pas le francais tellement bien mais tu peu me demande eh j'essaye de te aide
[04:12] <glauco1> tank
[04:12] <tu_> darkmagez so how can i fix my aMSN problem
[04:12] <glauco1> ;)
[04:12] <asso> kubuntu.fr
[04:12] <DarkMageZ> tu_, use the ubuntu package?
[04:12] <motoguru> jest ktos z polski ?
[04:12] <tu_> darkmagez i downloaded the ubuntu package then it kept asking me for updates each time i login
[04:12] <Hobbsee> !fr
[04:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:12] <ardchoille> !automatix | tu_
[04:12] <ubotu> tu_: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:13] <DarkMageZ> tu_, in the settings there is an option to disable the check.
[04:13] <tu_> ardchoille im uninstalling it right now:) thank you
[04:13] <ardchoille> tu_: :)
[04:13] <tu_> darkmagez true.. but to b honest i liked the new features of the updated amsn
[04:13] <Graham> Hey, how can I play divx videos in firefox?
[04:13] <tu_> im not getting whts the prob with it! i installed the TLS as requested..
[04:13] <ardchoille> tu_: Keep in mind, the damage may have already been done since you've already used it.
[04:14] <tu_> ardchoille, umm is there anyway of restoring my ditro to its default state ?
[04:14] <Graham> tu_: Format it.
[04:14] <tu_> graham lol ya thought tht would b the obvious answer..
[04:15] <tu_> anyway
[04:15] <Graham> Reset your distro isn't very descriptive.
[04:15] <ardchoille> tu_: If you've used automatix, I would recommend formatting the hd and reinstalling kubuntu.
[04:15] <tu_> hmm i guess i should b doing so real soon:)
[04:15] <tu_> anyway thanks you guys! though one silly question left!
[04:16] <tu_> how can i use the TAB issue like mirc! to auto complete nicknames
[04:16] <tu_> in konversation or xchat ..
[04:16] <ardchoille> tu_: Then I would recommend learnig how to install things yourself rather than rely on a 3rd party script. Installing things yourself will help you if you have a problem later.. using someone's script doesn't teach you anything.
[04:16] <tu_> ardchoille am obviously a newbie.. been 2 weeks tht im using linux!
[04:17] <tu_> ardchoille so am suffering through it thoguh i admit its worth it! better than all the hassle windows gave me
[04:17] <DarkMageZ> tu_, did you use the generic installer package for amsn?
[04:17] <tu_> darkmagez yes i did
[04:17] <ardchoille> tu_: Indeed :)
[04:18] <vectman> ardchoille: do you a good file or link re how to write you own scripts
[04:18] <tu_> kept it on dual boot for a while till i get the hang of linux and then ill format it all and just keep kubuntu
[04:18] <Graham> tu_: Pres tab...
[04:18] <ardchoille> tu_: Some thigs to keep in mind for a good system: 1) do not use rpm's or alien 2) only use .deb packages that were made for Ubuntu 3) always check the repos before installing a deb or compiling.
[04:18] <tu_> graham i did.. not working
[04:18] <DarkMageZ> right... uninstall amsn if you can. i'll start attempting to package 0.97rc1
[04:18] <Graham> Type Gra then press tab
[04:19] <padde> hi there. i frequently (and for years with various versions of kubuntu) have the problem that adept_manager just doesn't appear after i click the start menu entry. is this a known problem? how to solve it?
[04:19] <tu_> graham thts wht im doing.. no luck!
[04:19] <tu_> ardchoile thanks for the advice
[04:19] <Graham> Kubuntu Feisty right?
[04:19] <llutz> vectman: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html and http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[04:19] <tu_> ardchoile though as i mentioned this is a crash course of linux for a lack of a better word! amd doing everything i SOUDLNT DO so ilearn not to do it when i reformat and use it as the default OS
[04:20] <vectman> llutz: thanks
[04:20] <ardchoille> padde: Try starting it from a terminal to see if there's any error output: adept_manager
[04:20] <tu_> though i admit am facing trouble with firefox opening sites where it uses 90 % of the cpu..
[04:20] <Graham> tu_: What computer do you have?
[04:21] <tu_> Graham p iv, 1.8 256
[04:21] <padde> ardchoille: only this, but that's always there, also wenn it is able to start up
[04:21] <tu_> i know i know its lame though this is my backup desktop i usualy use my laptop which is decent enough
[04:21] <padde> ardchoille: http://rafb.net/p/CINgZ899.html
[04:21] <Graham> I have similar, P4 1.9 512 6 year old dell...
[04:21] <padde> ardchoille: and this has been like that with many kubuntus, different installations, on different computers.
[04:22] <tu_> Graham , you facing a prob with the browser!
[04:22] <tu_> if i opened like 3 sites (heavy sites) the whole pc hangs
[04:22] <ardchoille> padde: That error is due to your xorg.conf trying to initialise wacom devices that you don't have on your system. You can comment out all the wacom stuff in xorg.conf and that error will go away.
[04:22] <padde> ardchoille: ok. but then my problem still persists, i guess ;)
[04:23] <ardchoille> padde: Yes.. though I don't know why. I don't use adpet.
[04:23] <ardchoille> *adept
[04:23] <padde> ardchoille: is there an alternative? i have a feeling that it's a problem of kdesu
[04:24] <ardchoille> padde: Yes, I would recommend installing/uninstalling/searching/etc for software via the command line. It's much faster.
[04:25] <ardchoille> padde: man apt-get  and  man apt-cache
[04:25] <padde> ardchoille: well, i'm usually a gentoo user, so i would prefer that method any day, but the apt-get search is not exactly user friendly nor does it show the search results in a readable manner, imo
[04:25] <ardchoille> padde: man apt-cache has lots of options to make it better :)
[04:25] <padde> ardchoille: i see. thanks for the pointer
[04:26] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[04:27] <ardchoille> PErsonally, I don't see why anyone bothered to write a gui front-end for APT.. it was a step backwards IMHO.
[04:29] <llp78> whats a good program to use to download binaries from newsgroups ?
[04:34] <DarkMageZ> ardchoille, it's to help new people adapt to linux
[04:36] <^V^> llp78: klibido
[04:38] <paco_> hi there, anybody knows how to get bitmap fonts in konsole 1.6.6, kubuntu 7.04 ?
[04:38] <dek3> how can put the subtitles in xine ?
[04:40] <llp78> ^V^: cheers
[04:52] <ardchoille> DarkMageZ: Ah, well I can understand that.
[04:53] <kain__> hello i have an issue with an external hd with all my stuff from my laptop backed up (pre kubuntu) finally got it to mount and got access to the mnt dir after a week and a half
[04:53] <kain__> but now i see no files nothing
[04:54] <kain__> if i put it into a win xp box i get all 60gb fine
[04:54] <kain__> can someone please help
[04:57] <nosrednaekim> kain__: it mounts but you see no files?
[04:57] <Dr_willis> i would say check the 'mount' command and be sure its mounted.
[04:57] <Dr_willis> and then see if the root user sees items. It may be mounted with the wrong permissions.
[04:58] <ardchoille> kain__: Also, be sure youare looking in the correct mount point.
[04:59] <ardchoille> That stumped me for hours when I first used Linux, I was looking in /mnt/cdrom and it was mounted to /media/cdrom
[04:59] <Dr_willis> ln -s /mnt /mount :)
[04:59] <Dr_willis> or /media heh
[05:00] <Dr_willis> or am i backwards in that.. i always get ln -s backwards
[05:01] <mattrperry> got a question about how to reset the apt auto-check for updates back on...can anyone direct me as to where to look?
[05:01] <Jucato> mattrperry: are you on Feisty?
[05:01] <mattrperry> yes
[05:02] <Jucato> Adept Manager -> Adept menu -> Manage Repositories
[05:02] <Jucato> one of the tabs there. forgot which one
[05:02] <busfahrer> I want to install a single package from feisty-backports, but I don't want to add it to sources.list, since I don't want the other updates in there. How to do this properly?
[05:02] <Dr_willis> download the .deb  i guess. and install it manually
[05:03] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic
[05:03] <Jucato> not sure that's such a good idea. that one single package you want installed might depend other updated packages in -backports as well
[05:03] <busfahrer> Dr_willis: Easy to remember, works the same way as cp :-)
[05:03] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: Adept has  GUI for that now :)
[05:04] <Dr_willis> busfahrer,  untill you think 'i alwyas get this backwards.. so i need to reverse them..' then resize you were right the first time.
[05:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:04] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: oh... thats nice!
[05:04] <jontec> I don't have an internet connection in my chroot...
[05:04] <jontec> What should I do? I think it's worked before on wireless
[05:05] <jontec> actually, never mind I've gotta go. ^^
[05:06] <kain__> Dr. hold on please
[05:07] <kain__> let me plug in the drive
[05:08] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: thanks, that worked
[05:08] <kain__> just plugged in the drive
[05:08] <kain__> ok now it says mounting /mount/sdb1
[05:08] <kain__> oops
[05:08] <kain__> mounting dev/sdb1
[05:08] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: NP
[05:09] <kain__> and it sits here at 0%
[05:09] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: you don't also happen to know where to find the linux equiv of the windows 'startup' folder do you?
[05:10] <kain__> i'm now in disk and filesystems as admin
[05:10] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:10] <kain__> Dr_willis?
[05:10] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: thanks again..you're the man!
[05:11] <kain__> hey nos
[05:11] <nosrednaekim> or for shell programs, .bashrc
[05:11] <Dr_willis> kain__,  go to the shell use 'sudo mount' see if its mounted.
[05:11] <Jucato> !autostart | mattrperry
[05:11] <ubotu> mattrperry: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[05:11] <kain__> k
[05:11] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: that really depends on when/where he wants the script/program to start up :)
[05:12] <kain__> this is the last line
[05:12] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: right..
[05:12] <kain__> * /dev/sdb1 on /mnt type ntfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) *
[05:12] <Kim^J> YO!
[05:12] <Kim^J> On the livecd, what's the password for the screensaver? :O
[05:12] <Kim^J> Locked it and can't get in anymore.
[05:13] <Jucato> ouch.... that bug again?
[05:13] <Jucato> there's supposed to be no password
[05:13] <Kim^J> It's a bug? Darn. :(
[05:13] <kain__> Dr. Willis: /dev/sdb1 on /mnt type ntfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[05:14] <kain__> ok i open konquerer now and i am in the folder /media and it just says "stalled":
[05:14] <SQUALL2> hi .is there achannel populated to arab?
[05:15] <Dr_willis> kain__,  how did it get mounted to /mnt ? thats odd.
[05:15] <kain__> what should it mount to?
[05:15] <wsjunior> Kim^J: i dont know but anyway u can go to terminal and then reset the password :D
[05:15] <Dr_willis> kain__,  try media:/ in konqueror not /media
[05:15] <kain__> i set it up that way like the internal hd's
[05:15] <Dr_willis> kain__,  also try ti access it from the shell.
[05:16] <kain__> i disabled the external
[05:16] <kain__> where should it mount to?
[05:16] <Dr_willis> kain__,  ive never had a ubuntu ystem install stuff to /mnt alwyas /media
[05:16] <Dr_willis> WHERE isent very impoirntant. but ive never seen it do that
[05:16] <kain__> i changed the settings
[05:16] <Dr_willis> ahh.. so its Possible you changed some other stuff then...
[05:16] <Dr_willis> try as a user 'ls -l /mnt'
[05:16] <Dr_willis> then try it with sudo  'sudo ls -l /mnt'
[05:17] <Kim^J> wsjunior: I know. I did that. :)
[05:17] <kain__> Dr. : the mountpoint /media is already in use by another entry continue/
[05:17] <kain__> ?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> kain__,  /media is a directory that holds the other mounted filesystems normally
[05:17] <wsjunior> Kim^J: :)
[05:17] <Dr_willis> ie: /media/hda1 /media/cdrom and so forth
[05:18] <Dr_willis> Sounds to me like you may have changed a lot of things...
[05:18] <kain__> ok changed to media let's see if it works
[05:18] <Kim^J> wsjunior: I have been using Ubuntu since the last 2 years so I know, just got a bit confused when it asked me for a password. :)
[05:19] <Dr_willis> kain__,  you should be mounting to somthing like /media/MyExternalDrive
[05:19] <Kim^J> Well, see ya later dudes.
[05:20] <kain__> ok i tried to change to /media/sdb1 and it says it'll create the mountpoint i hit continue nothing happens
[05:20] <Dr_willis> kain__,  i never use that gui interface.. i manually edit the fstab file
[05:20] <Dr_willis> Ive heard that gui interface is ... not very reliable.
[05:20] <Jucato> which gui interface?
[05:20] <kain__> brb will you help me
[05:20] <kain__> disk and filesystems
[05:21] <kain__> trying to mount an ext dr
[05:21] <kain__> brb
[05:21] <kain__> thank you DrWillis
[05:21] <Jucato> ah it's quite matured, Dr_willis
[05:21] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis: works great for me
[05:21] <Jucato> unfortunately, almost nobody knows about it... because of that (imho) silly Advanced tab...
[05:21] <shane2peru> hey does anyone know how to change the volume label in Linux?
[05:22] <shane2peru> so that it mounts at the same name all the time?
[05:22] <Jucato> shane2peru: Kubuntu, since Edgy, has been using UUID for that
[05:22] <Jucato> !uuid | shane2peru
[05:22] <ubotu> shane2peru: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[05:22] <Dr_willis> tune2fs lets you set the volume Label
[05:22] <Jucato> it's almost the same as LABEL, but more reliable imho
[05:23] <Dr_willis> i even edit the fstab to mount disks by label. not UUID. :)
[05:23] <shane2peru> Jucato: no, not the uuid stuff, just the volume label, like in Windows you can plug in a usb stick and rename it.
[05:23] <adaptr> I hate UUID - makes it a pain to mess around with partitions
[05:23] <Jucato> adaptr: er?
[05:23] <Dr_willis> UUID came in handy.. i moved my hds around.. and the system still worked..
[05:23] <shane2peru> adaptr: I'm not much of a uuid'er either.
[05:24] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: I'm sure it has it uses, but for the average user, it is more of a pain. :)
[05:24] <Dr_willis> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[05:24] <Jucato> if by "mess around with partitions" you mean repartition again and again, over and over... then yes, UUID is a bit annoying
[05:24] <Dr_willis> comes in handy.
[05:24] <shane2peru> I found this on the forums before, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/01/editing-fat32-partition-labels-using-mtools/
[05:24] <shane2peru> but it claims it is for fat32
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Of course once ya get partitions setup.. it dosent matter much.
[05:25] <kain__> ok
[05:25] <Jucato> yeah... but somehow the long UUID strikes fear into the heart of newbies :)
[05:25] <icecruncher> how can I disable the bouncy icon when I open a program/
[05:25] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  i seem to recall using the media:\ in konqueror to set a fat32 partitions label once.. with the properties
[05:25] <Jucato> icecruncher: press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol"
[05:25] <shane2peru> right, and it isn't often I have to change them, but I would like to be able to name my partition in Linux
[05:25] <kain__> DrWillis: how would i do this in shell? or is there a better gui?
[05:25] <Jucato> icecruncher: go to Appearance & THemes -> Launch Feedback
[05:25] <Dr_willis> I set my uuid's to be 000-000-000-001
[05:25] <nosrednaekim> icecruncher: kcontrol->apearances and themes->launch feedback
[05:25] <chris_> anyone have a logitech mx5000 keyboard/mouse? How does it work with linux?
[05:26] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: missed the part about launching kcontrol :)
[05:26] <Dr_willis> kain__,  im not clear on what you are really doing. its possible you messed up a lot of things with that gui due to doing some 'odd' things on your part.
[05:26] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: can you clarify that a bit?
[05:26] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: I saw you type that and I figured I would beat you to the second part
[05:26] <llutz> shane2peru: e2label
[05:26] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[05:26] <kain__> how would i un mess stuff up lol
[05:26] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  tune2fs lets you change the label.. or the UUID. :) and other things
[05:26] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: which you still didn't :P
[05:26] <kain__> !fstab
[05:26] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:26] <shane2peru> llutz: is it in the repos?
[05:27] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: I came in second XD
[05:27] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: is that in the repos?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  its part of the fs ttools.. so it should allready be installed
[05:27] <llutz> shane2peru: in e2fsprogs
[05:27] <Dr_willis> !find tune2fs
[05:27] <icecruncher> Jucato nosrednaekim: thnks
[05:27] <ubotu> File tune2fs found in e2fsprogs, zsh, zsh-beta
[05:27] <Dr_willis> zsh? odd..
[05:27] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: which means you didn't beat me to it
[05:28] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: I know I know
[05:28] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: yep it is installed.  is it pretty easy to use?
[05:28] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: or better yet do you know where a how to is?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  read the help info... check the man page.
[05:28] <llutz> shane2peru: man e2label
[05:28] <shane2peru> great, ok, thanks Dr_willis
[05:28] <Dr_willis> We dont need no stinking  HOWTO's! :)
[05:28] <shane2peru> llutz: is e2lable easier?
[05:28] <shane2peru> better?
[05:28] <shane2peru> or just different
[05:29] <llutz> shane2peru: to label a partition? sure
[05:29] <Dr_willis> e2label
[05:29] <Dr_willis> Usage: e2label device [newlabel] 
[05:29] <kain__> brb :(
[05:29] <Dr_willis> WOWsers - how complex eh..
[05:29] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: llutz:  that is all I want to do.  Thanks!
[05:29] <Dr_willis> i could of done it a dozen times in the time it took you to ask how hard it was to do. :)
[05:29] <llutz> Dr_willis: too complex for all those gui-noobs ;)
[05:30] <Dr_willis> does it matter how hard it is to use. :) if its the tool you need to use.. you learn it/use it.
[05:30] <Dr_willis> heh
[05:30] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: yep, I see that now :), I just don't like to mess up my stuff . :)
[05:31] <shane2peru> llutz: hey, now, I do have preference to cli
[05:31] <shane2peru> I'm not a guru, but, do enjoy learning.
[05:31] <llutz> shane2peru: i wasn't pointing at you
[05:32] <Dr_willis> for irc tech support.. CLI is much easier to explaine.
[05:32] <billytwowilly> wow, konversation crashed hard..
[05:32] <shane2peru> llutz: no, that is ok hey everyone has to learn
[05:32] <billytwowilly> anybody using a logitech mx 5000 keyboard/mouse with kubuntu?
[05:32] <shane2peru> CLI is cross distro?  Kubuntu Xbuntu eudubuntu Ubuntu etc.
[05:33] <shane2peru> not really distro, but you get it.
[05:33] <shane2peru> ok, thanks guys, I appreciate the help!
[05:33] <llutz> shane2peru: cli works on almost all u*nices
[05:33] <Dr_willis> shane2peru,  for the most part . yes.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> *ubuntu  :)
[05:33] <shane2peru> well, I did find it playing with other distros some commands were different
[05:33] <Dr_willis> slight differances in some disrtos.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> package manager, service management,  differ normally
[05:34] <shane2peru> fdisk -l didn't work on PC Linux or something
[05:34] <Dr_willis> that should of worked..
[05:34] <Dr_willis> you perhaps needed to be root
[05:34] <shane2peru> maybe it was another command, I don't remember, no, I was root.
[05:34] <llutz> shane2peru: fdisk -l  won't work the known way on a lot of distros
[05:34] <jzilla> Good Morning, Friends.
[05:35] <wolf> Morning
[05:35] <shane2peru> oh well, it doesn't matter, ok, I gotta run, and rename this partition and get busy for the day.
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> 'lo
[05:35] <shane2peru> thanks again for the help guys!
[05:37] <mattrperry> I just upgraded to feisty and for some reason my drives and partitions don't auto-mount or auto-link to my desktop...any suggestions?
[05:38] <kain__> DrWillis: If i pastebin my fstab file will you look at it please
[05:38] <sebastian> 
[05:39] <dale> Cound anyone tell me what cupsys is for?
[05:39] <gnomefreak> printers
[05:39] <ubunturos> dale: for printers
[05:39] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: what does dmesg say when you plug a usb device in?
[05:39] <nosrednaekim> dale: printing
[05:39] <dale> I dont use an printer for ubuntu, can i disable it?
[05:39] <kain__> nos can you help me please
[05:40] <dale> Without causing promblems.
[05:40] <Dr_willis> kain__,  i can try.. pastebin it. clarify your question. give the url.
[05:40] <BluesKaj> dale, why bother ?
[05:40] <Dr_willis> problems? what kind of problems?
[05:40] <dale> I am trying to disable things i dont need to improve performance.
[05:40] <kain__> DrWillis: http://pastebin.com/934728
[05:40] <os2mac> does anyone know if Thunderbird 2.0 is available or when it will be ?
[05:41] <kain__> sdb1 is the ext
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> dale: ah, I think you can disable it with a command without removing it completely.. just a sec
[05:41] <mattrperry> I have a card reader that is usb, when I plug in a card it auto-mounts and displays a link to it on my desktop
[05:41] <kain__> i don't know what sdcr1 is
[05:41] <BluesKaj> uhm dale, how can disabling a printer improve performance ?
[05:41] <kain__> when i mount the ext (turn it on) konqueror stalls when looking through the filesystem
[05:42] <Dr_willis> kain__,  looks like a typo to me on the last line.
[05:42] <kain__> when i turn it off and reboot we are all good
[05:42] <kain__> where?
[05:42] <kain__> on the sdcr1?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> kain__,  so the fstab line is -->  /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 auto users,defaults,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[05:42] <kain__> ok
[05:42] <Dr_willis> kain__,  yes sdcr1 makes no sence to me.
[05:42] <Dr_willis> sdc1 makes sence
[05:42] <kain__> can i just delete that line
[05:42] <Dr_willis> kain__,  No idea.. ya got a SDC1 ?
[05:42] <kain__> i do
[05:43] <Dr_willis> This is when it pays to read up on how linux mounts things. and the proper format of the fstab file.
[05:43] <kain__> that must be my sd card reader
[05:43] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: "sudo update-rc.d cupsys remove"
[05:43] <kain__> which isn't working yet either but the ext is more important right now
[05:43] <kain__> i just switched from longhorn to kubuntu
[05:43] <Dr_willis> as to the sdb1 thing...  you 'should' be able as a user use the command 'mount /media/sdb1' and it 'should' get mounted where a user can access the drive
[05:43] <Dr_willis> kain__,  HOWEVER..  this is a ext2/ext3 partition on the drive?
[05:43] <nosrednaekim> Sorry...not mattrperry, dale
[05:44] <nosrednaekim> dale:  "sudo update-rc.d cupsys remove"
[05:44] <kain__> no those are the internal drive
[05:44] <Dr_willis> kain__,  internal/external dosent matter.. What Filesystem is the drive?
[05:44] <kain__> the ext should have just one partition
[05:44] <kain__> NTFS i assume since all files came from a win machine
[05:44] <Dr_willis> 'sudo fdisk -l' should list all drives and what partitions are on them
[05:45] <Dr_willis> for ntfs. your fstab line is very very wrong then.
[05:45] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, my question remains, how can disabling a printer improve performance ?
[05:45] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: I show all the drives in the 'disk and file systems - system settings'
[05:45] <kain__> ok got that
[05:45] <Ashmaus> hello all
[05:45] <kain__> let me add that to the pastebin
[05:45] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: heh IDK.... disabling services does help sometimes
[05:45] <Dr_willis> for ntfs For example - from My Laptop -->   /dev/hda1  /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:46] <kain__> you can go ahead and refresh that
[05:46] <Dr_willis> where hda1 you need to change to patch with whatever external drive ya got.
[05:46] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: you see them all there?
[05:46] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[05:46] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:46] <kain__> i got the ntfs module
[05:46] <Dr_willis> kain__,  you need the fstab to be properly mounting the ntfs filesystem
[05:46] <kain__> what do i need to get to do to get the ext to work at all???? correctly i mean
[05:47] <Dr_willis>  /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:47] <Dr_willis> /dev/hda1  /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:47] <Dr_willis> is what I use for my laotop to mount my ntfs partition.
[05:47] <kain__> ok
[05:47] <BluesKaj> ok  nosrednaekim, like a daemon running in the background ...kind of minimal but i guess every little bit helps ('scuse the pun) in some setups :)
[05:47] <Dr_willis> This is discussed in Detail at the !ntfs factoid and the Ntfs-linux faq/wiki pages.. and all over the internet. :)
[05:48] <killermach> I've had my usb keyboard stop several times, I have to unplug it an replug, very inconvenient, my USB mouse keeps working, is there a menu item I can click to rescan the bus to activate the keyboard again?
[05:48] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: thats the idea.
[05:48] <Ashmaus> Somehow I screwed up my menu.lst (GRUB), can soneone tell me what the root part should be to boot xp from the first partition?
[05:49] <outtawedlock> !fgrlx
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fgrlx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <ardchoille> !ati
[05:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:49] <nosrednaekim> ashmaus: sure..
[05:49] <Dr_willis> Ashmaus,  the menu.lst file has an exaple for booting windows off the first hd/partition. I always just uncomment it. :)
[05:49] <nosrednaekim> ashmaus: you want the entry to boot a windows installation on the first partiton of your first HD?
[05:50] <ardchoille> Ashmaus: It might be a good idea to "sudo cp file file.backup" before editing system files.
[05:50] <kain__> DrWillis: so this should work? /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 ntfs users,defaults,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[05:50] <llutz> Ashmaus: root (hd0,0)
[05:50] <ke3> i can use beryl in a laptop with graphic card 128m ?
[05:50] <llutz> Ashmaus: chainloader +1
[05:50] <Dr_willis> kain__,  thhat was NOT the example i gave. Your extra options are Not correct. and for the most part not needed
[05:50] <Dr_willis> /dev/hda1  /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:50] <Dr_willis> Perhaps use
[05:50] <Ashmaus> ok, cool thanks. I couldn't find an example in there.
[05:51] <Dr_willis> /dev/hda1  /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,users,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:51] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: yes...and I'm not sure if this is important or not...but when I plug a media card into my usb card reader, it auto-mounts and auto-links on desktop...and my windows ntfs and linux / partitions seem to auto-mount, however do not auto-link to desktop, however I notice that when I restart, as linux is shutting down, those ntfs and linux / partitions show up on the desktop for a second just before shutdown/restart...
[05:51] <kain__> ok so use your example and just change the first part?
[05:52] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: oh yeah... I think I know how to fix that
[05:52] <kain__> DrWillis: is this better: /dev/sdb1  /media/sdb1 ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0
[05:53] <kicek> Witam xD
[05:53] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: right click on desktop-> configure desktop-> Behavior->device icons
[05:53] <kicek> sa jacys polacy?
[05:54] <llutz> !pl | kicek
[05:54] <ubotu> kicek: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:54] <marcelol> Hello...
[05:54] <kicek> thx ;] 
[05:54] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: yeah I tried that...and I currently have everything selected
[05:54] <Dr_willis> kain__,  now try it and see if it works. :)
[05:54] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: and you still don't see it?
[05:54] <nosrednaekim> but they are mounted?
[05:55] <kain__> DrWillis: it's complaining in Kate i don't have permissions to edit the fstab file how do i save or open as root?
[05:55] <nosrednaekim> i.e. you see them in /media
[05:55] <mw1> Tach
[05:55] <marcelol> anyone know why if I plug in an external USB drive kubuntu won't let me mount it
[05:55] <mw1> why is this in english
[05:55] <mw1> ?
[05:55] <BluesKaj> mw1, svensk ?
[05:55] <marcelol> maybe because some people are speaking in English ?
[05:56] <marcelol> nosrednaekim: yup....that would be today
[05:56] <mw1> yes but other people spek other languagres
[05:56] <llutz> !de|mw1
[05:56] <ubotu> mw1: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:56] <nosrednaekim> and their are other channels for those other people
[05:56] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: they show under /media with the exception of my usb external hd
[05:56] <marcelol> mw1: yes, and I don't understand what they're saying when they speak in their language..but you don't hear me complaining
[05:56] <BluesKaj> not here mw1...what language do you speak ?
[05:56] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: that doesn't show anywhere?
[05:56] <mw1> i go away and think over my day
[05:56] <marcelol> mattrperry: you seem to have the same problem I do
[05:56] <Dr_willis> marcelol,  this is a NTFS drive?
[05:57] <marcelol> Dr_willis: yes
[05:57] <Dr_willis> kain__,  use 'sudo or ksudo, or the other methiods to get root access'
[05:57] <kain__> lol i'm going through the same thing
[05:57] <marcelol> I've tried two of them, and they both have the same problem
[05:57] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[05:57] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:57] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: but no links on the desktop
[05:57] <Dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[05:57] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:57] <kain__> in shell?
[05:57] <kain__> or the gui?
[05:57] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: is it listed with "mount"?
[05:57] <shane2peru> Dr_willis: llutz:  Ok, got it that was easy to do!  Thanks.
[05:57] <marcelol> but what's worse...is that the program "Disk Management" says there are no mount points that I can mount/unmount
[05:57] <nosrednaekim> run that command^^
[05:57] <shane2peru> changing label name that is.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> kain__,  using the SHELL.. the shell is our friend...
[05:57] <kain__> lol i know getting used to it
[05:58] <wolf> I have just install linux! Wow! It`s wonderfull!
[05:58] <kain__> so sudo something /etc/fstab ?
[05:58] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: what do you mean listed with 'mount'?
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> wolf:cool!
[05:58] <Dr_willis> kain__,  or ksudo keditoryoulike /etc/fstab
[05:58] <llutz> shane2peru: everything is easy if you know how to do it :)
[05:58] <dale> I <3 kubuntu, 10000x better than gnome+ubuntu
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: run "mount" in the terminal
[05:58] <wolf> How make in amarok rusiian tags?
[05:58] <Dr_willis> My Example fstab entry - that mounts my First Windows parttion --->  /dev/hda1  /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[05:59] <shane2peru> llutz: just a matter of learning.
[05:59] <kain__> keditoryoulike?
[05:59] <BluesKaj> !ru | wolf
[05:59] <ubotu> wolf:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[05:59] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: this is what it says:
[05:59] <mattrperry> mattperry@Kubuntu:~$ mount
[05:59] <mattrperry> /dev/sda2 on / type reiserfs (rw,notail)
[05:59] <mattrperry> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[05:59] <mattrperry> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[05:59] <mattrperry> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=0755)
[05:59] <mattrperry> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,mode=1777)
[05:59] <wolf>  <BluesKaj> How?
[05:59] <mattrperry> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[05:59] <mattrperry> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[05:59] <mattrperry> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[05:59] <mattrperry> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[05:59] <kain__> bash:ksudo command not found
[05:59] <mattrperry> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[05:59] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin | mattrperry
[05:59] <ubotu> mattrperry: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:59] <mattrperry> /dev/disk/by-uuid/0E98607598605D69 on /media/sda1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[05:59] <mattrperry> /dev/disk/by-uuid/f1a944fc-2959-4f94-b42f-018cf404ad75 on /media/sdb1 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[05:59] <mattrperry> /dev/sdd1 on /media/disk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=lower)
[06:00] <marcelol> raises his hand.....uh....question
[06:00] <marcelol> why does this script mention Dapper....I'm running Feisty
[06:00] <Dr_willis> marcelol,  old script
[06:00] <marcelol> is there an equivalent script for Feisty ?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:00] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: please put that in a pastebin!
[06:00] <marcelol> or...no difference ?
[06:00] <kain__> nevermind got it :)
[06:00] <Dr_willis> highly likely also.
[06:00] <kain__> let's see if it works
[06:00] <kain__> do i need to reboot or just turn on the ext?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> kain__,  use the proper MOUNT command and it should read the fstab file and mount the partition
[06:01] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: sorry...don't know how?
[06:01] <kain__> lol what is that again
[06:01] <Dr_willis> 'sudo mount -a' will mount all automounted partitions in the fstab file
[06:01] <Dr_willis> !pastebin
[06:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:02] <marcelol> ( as an aside...I'm getting really tired of having to type my password for every "system" level change ....)
[06:02] <marcelol> Dr_willis: were you talking to me when you said "highly likely also" ?
[06:02] <nosrednaekim> marcelol: you mean on the command line?
[06:03] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26894/plain/
[06:04] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: go to /media/disk
[06:04] <kain__> DrWillis YOU ARE THE MAN
[06:04] <Dr_willis> kain__,  it pays to learn the FUNdamentals
[06:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:04] <kain__> DrWillis: same thing for my sd card reader?
[06:04] <marcelol> nosrednaekim: I mean via UI.....using sudo I can live with...but for every applet ...AdeptInstaller..yadda yadda....use the f'ing wallet already ...geez
[06:04] <kain__> thank you for helping me learn :)
[06:04] <kain__> i learned A TON
[06:04] <nosrednaekim> marcelol: ah.
[06:04] <kain__> thank you :)
[06:04] <Dr_willis> kain__,  depends.. a sdcard reader MIGHT change /dev/whatever entries.
[06:05] <kain__> k
[06:05] <kain__> i appreciate it
[06:05] <Dr_willis> kain__,  whats odd is that Kubuntu/Ubuntu are 'supposed' to auto-see/mount the external usb gizmos automaticially. They do here.
[06:05] <nosrednaekim> here too
[06:05] <binks> here too
[06:05] <marcelol> just discovered something weird....ntfs-3g and ntfs-config weren't already installed...that's very odd
[06:05] <Dr_willis> by having an entry in fstab you disable that 'feature'
[06:05] <Dr_willis> marcelol,  they are not in kubuntu by default correct. I always install them first thing
[06:06] <Dr_willis> I never can rember their names however. :) I think my fstab entry was generated by ntfs-config
[06:06] <marcelol> Dr_willis: Yes...that's what troubles me....I thought kubuntu would've detected it auto-magically
[06:06] <marcelol> weird
[06:06] <marcelol> very weird
[06:06] <kain__> me three
[06:06] <Dr_willis> I dont have any external ntfs usb drives however. all vfat/ext2
[06:06] <kain__> now do i need to unmount every time
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: did you go there?
[06:06] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: that doesn't exist
[06:06] <schizm> I need monotone 0.35, but 0.33 is all that's available with apt-get...there is a bug logged about this that the ubuntu repository monotone is ancient but noone has responded to it.  Suggestions on what I can do?  Just grab the latest source and compile?
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry:  are you sure?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> kain__,  that line will check/mount it on boot  every time
[06:07] <kain__> k
[06:07] <dale> Does anyone know any tutorials to help me install 32bit swifitfox on 64 kubuntu
[06:07] <Dr_willis> kain__,  IF you remove the drive and reboot. you may get an error.  the 'noauto' option may  be needed if you remove the device/change it around a lot
[06:07] <kain__> what if i want to remove it while using the disk
[06:07] <kain__> ok
[06:07] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: if I go to /media/ there are all the drives listed there (with the exception of the usb ext hd)
[06:07] <Arwen> schizm, if you need a new version, compile it yourself
[06:07] <nosrednaekim> there is no "disk" entry?
[06:07] <Arwen> I can even help you do it if you want
[06:07] <kain__> so like if i was done with it now but still using the laptop what would i need to do
[06:08] <Dr_willis> also everyone note that /media/ is lacking some features that are in media:/ (in konqueror)
[06:08] <Dr_willis> I m always using media:/  now a days.. theres some issues to watch out for however.
[06:08] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: hmmm try going to "media:/"
[06:08] <Dr_willis> bbl
[06:08] <nosrednaekim> like Dr_willis says
[06:09] <kain__> can i just shut off the drive or do i need to unmount?
[06:09] <llutz> kain__: umount first
[06:09] <nosrednaekim> kain__: you need to unmount
[06:09] <kain__> where
[06:09] <kain__> when i right click i see no unmount option
[06:09] <nosrednaekim> kain__: do you see an icon for it on your desktop?
[06:10] <nosrednaekim> a safely remove option?
[06:10] <kain__> no
[06:10] <kain__> i see it in the storage media though
[06:10] <kain__> but no unmount option there either
[06:10] <Arwen> dale, you do it the same way you install 32bit firefox..
[06:10] <schizm> hm, compiling monotone myself won't help, various libboost and libregex dependancies that aren't satisfied either
[06:11] <Arwen> install ia32-libs, grab a package, untar it, and run "swiftfox"
[06:11] <schizm> don't want to go that in depth
[06:11] <nosrednaekim> kain__: odd.. I see unmount options
[06:11] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim:  media:/ did work and everything (incl the usb ext hd) is listed there
[06:11] <BluesKaj> ok, I've wiped all vestiges of windows off the HDD. However , now the partitions is still labelled as hda2 for/ and hda3 for the swap. Do I change the label/names in fstab or in system settings ..or both ?
[06:11] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: ok.. just use that then(rather odd though)
[06:11] <kain__> my icon is a folder not a drive if that matters
[06:11] <kain__> shell unmount command?
[06:11] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: it really doesn't matter
[06:11] <dale> Is it common for kubuntu to ask for the disk sometimes when installing stuff?
[06:11] <Arwen> schizm, hmm? "apt-get build-dep monotone", grab source, build, install.
[06:11] <Arwen> or, do you need a new version of the dependencies too?
[06:11] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: no need to change names
[06:12] <nosrednaekim> dale: I've never seen it
[06:12] <dale> Hmmm...
[06:12] <nosrednaekim> dale: did it ask you?
[06:12] <padde> i need to add one option into my kernel, what's the easiest way to accomplish that?
[06:12] <mattrperry> nosrednaekim: so now how do I have those show on my desktop?
[06:12] <chaplin_pat> How do I import the account settings in Thunderbird into Kmail?  I was able to import the messages but now need the account settings.
[06:13] <Arwen> dale, yeah, it actually is
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> padde: edit your menu.lst
[06:13] <Arwen> because if you installed from the alternate CD, K/X/Ubuntu will add it as a repository
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> mattrperry: no idea.
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: ah
[06:13] <padde> nosrednaekim: i mean not an option to the kernel, but a symbol inside the kernel, which seems not to be active in the default kubuntu configuration
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> bye all.
[06:13] <nosrednaekim> padde: you mean a module?
[06:14] <padde> nosrednaekim: Symbol: BRIDGE_NETFILTER
[06:14] <nosrednaekim> padde: I'm not sure.
[06:15] <padde> can I somehow install a kernel source tree with the default .config?
[06:15] <padde> (i'm kubuntu / debian noob, but linux is not new to me)
[06:15] <llutz> padde: default kubuntu: CONFIG_BRIDGE_NETFILTER=y
[06:15] <Arwen> padde, no, because Ubuntu uses proprietary kernels with weird options that generic ones won't accept.
[06:15] <marcelol> ntfs-config ran for me...but I can't f'ing mount the external drive still
[06:16] <mattrperry> when I click on the usb ext hd it gives me an error mssg 'hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000' does anyone know how to fix?
[06:16] <chaplin_pat> Can anyone help move account settings from Winxp Thunderbird to Kmail?  Is there a direct import?
[06:16] <padde> llutz: interesting... then i have to investigate further why iptables seems not to be able to process packets that pass through a bridge. thanks for the info.
[06:17] <marcelol> this really sucketh greatly, yea verily
[06:17] <ardchoille> lol
[06:17] <ardchoille> I love that olde grammar
[06:18] <BluesKaj> chaplin_pat, you can install ntfs-3g and ntfs-config to get access to your windows partition
[06:18] <marcelol> ntfs config doesn't give me a list of available partitions to choose
[06:19] <Arwen> or just ntfs-3g. ntfs-config is useless.
[06:19] <marcelol> funny...the wiki says to use ntfs-config
[06:20] <BluesKaj> chaplin_pat, make an ldif file out of the addressbook , then you'll be able to import it
[06:20] <wolf> !ru
[06:20] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:21] <marcelol> bbl
[06:25] <chaplin_pat> BluesKaj, thanks. I got the addresses just need the email account settings.  They didn't come across.
[06:27] <BluesKaj> chaplin_pat , the email settings aren't transferable for security reasons I guess
[06:28] <chaplin_pat> BluesKaj, k.  That's specifically what I was looking for.  I would think kmail would have the ability to import them.  Thunderbird imports from Outlook...
[06:29] <BluesKaj> you mean your IMAP or POP3 and username etc , chaplin_pat ? ...I never bothered trying that
[06:31] <BluesKaj> chaplin_pat, I'm surprised you aren't using Thunderbird in Kubuntu
[06:33] <chaplin_pat> BluesKaj, I can and probably should to keep it simple.. I like the calendar feature of Kmail and it's more stable than Evo on the Dapper install.
[06:34] <chaplin_pat> BluesKaj, as for your previous post.... yep pop3 uname pass etc.
[06:34] <BluesKaj> ok chaplin_pat , thx , good to know :)
[06:38] <hashpenguin> can anyone tell me where to find howto for breezy to dapper upgrade?
[06:46] <outtawedlock> how do I install office 2003 on wine? Do I drag and drop the iso or something like that?
[06:47] <t2> hi, is anyone here familiar with KDE power managment ?
[06:48] <redmonkey> outtawedlock: isdn't openoffice an alternative for you?
[06:48] <Arwen> outtawedlock, you CAN'T INSTALL OFFICE 2003
[06:48] <Arwen> the latest that "works" is Office 2000
[06:49] <outtawedlock> if it was for me I ditch all m$$$$ crap related
[06:49] <outtawedlock> unfortunately there some ignorant brainwashed retards out there
[06:49] <redmonkey> why did you install linux if you wanna use windows software anyway? :)
[06:50] <ardchoille> outtawedlock: Some of us ditched M$ crap 6 years ago :)
[06:50] <outtawedlock> is there a difference between purging and un-installing?
[06:50] <Arwen> MS Office is good, but you'll need either Windows or a VM to use it.
[06:50] <Arwen> outtawedlock, yes. apt-get remove leaves config files.
[06:50] <Arwen> apt-get remove --purge kills those too
[06:50] <outtawedlock> Arwen: why?!!! isn't wine supposed to do that?
[06:51] <Arwen> uh... wine is an experiment in reverse engineering.
[06:51] <Arwen> you're not suppose to depend on it for *anything*
[06:51] <ardchoille> wine also runs Windows viruses/trojans/worms with ease.
[06:51] <outtawedlock> OMG!!! wine=vaporware
[06:52] <Arwen> ardchoille, actually, it doesn't.
[06:52] <Arwen> outtawedlock, um no... it's good software, it's just never going to be complete enough to depend on
[06:52] <Arwen> think about it. We don't know how Windows works, how can you expect us to write a 100% functional emulator?
[06:52] <ardchoille> Arwen: Actually it does: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72598  and  http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/25/1430222&from=rss
[06:52] <Arwen> ardchoille, I've tried, most just crash
[06:53] <Arwen> didn't you read the article? they didn't really work
[06:53] <ardchoille> this one did: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72598
[06:54] <Arwen> ardchoille, but it was unable to spread past the fake wine fs. If it can't contaminate your system and load on boot, it hasn't worked.
[06:55] <ardchoille> Arwen: That one also infected his ~/.local folder.. $HOME is more important to me than the rest of the system.
[06:55] <Arwen> it didn't "infect" it since all it did was dump a bunch of trash in various places
[06:55] <Arwen> trash that didn't do anything, no less
[06:56] <ardchoille> Well, people who like wine are going to come up with all kinds of "reasoins" to justify using it.
[06:56] <outtawedlock> can at least give it  a shot?
[06:56] <dale> Will KDE4 be in kubuntu gusty?
[06:56] <Arwen> outtawedlock, yes, but judging from winehq's list of compatible programs, it won't even start
[06:56] <Jucato> dale: no.
[06:56] <dale> May i ask why?
[06:56] <Jucato> dale: there will be a separate repository for it
[06:57] <outtawedlock> what about koffice? Why isn't that installed in Kubuntu as default? Is that somewhat odd?
[06:57] <Jucato> and probably a separate CD
[06:57] <dale> ok thanks
[06:57] <Arwen> outtawedlock, because OpenOffice.org is better
[06:57] <Jucato> outtawedlock: it will be when KOffice 2.0 comes out (hopefully)
[06:57] <Jucato> at least that's the plan
[06:58] <Jucato> "better" is subjective. but the plan is to migrate to KOffice once 2.0 is out. it started with Kexi already in Edgy
[06:58] <sean__> hi, anybody know where I might start troubleshooting beryl crashing on launch
[06:58] <Edulix> hey
[06:59] <Edulix> what's the program that sets with access keys the sound in kde?
[06:59] <outtawedlock> Jucato: ohhh hot KDE4!!
[06:59] <Edulix> I need to configure it
[06:59] <outtawedlock> when will  KDE4 be out?
[06:59] <Arwen> sean__, yes, go post some the error messages, your xorg.conf, and your Xorg.0.log
[06:59] <Edulix> to select a different master chanel
[06:59] <Jucato> outtawedlock: October hopefully
[06:59] <Arwen> outtawedlock, don't yell. And I think in October/November
[06:59] <Jucato> Edulix: kmix?
[06:59] <outtawedlock> like Leopard lol
[06:59] <sean__> that's part of the problem, I can't find any error messages in the logs
[06:59] <Jucato> and Kubuntu 7.10
[06:59] <outtawedlock> I can see all over the news Leopard vs. KDE4
[06:59] <Edulix> Jucato: doesn't seems so
[07:00] <Arwen> sean__, well, let's see... what version of beryl? and hint, beryl is dead, use compiz.
[07:00] <Jucato> Edulix: run kmix, right-click on the kmix icon in the system tray
[07:00] <Arwen> also, try starting beryl from a terminal and let us know what it says when it crashes
[07:00] <sean__> beryl-core 0.2.1
[07:00] <Jucato> also, try #ubuntu-effects
[07:00] <Jucato> that's the channel for these things :)
[07:01] <Arwen> or #beryl. But anyway, beryl is dead, could I recommend that you start using compiz?
[07:01] <Edulix> Jucato: the thing is, I have configured the master  channel in kmix, and now changing the volume in it works fine, but with the function keys in my laptop it still doesn't change the volume, so it's not kmix
[07:01] <Jucato> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts?
[07:02] <sean__> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". - ah that must be the problem , thanks Arwen
[07:02] <Arwen> sean__, there we go, do you have 3d rendering?
[07:02] <Arwen> nvidia/ati/intel/evenmatrox?
[07:02] <sean__> I do for second life and googleearth
[07:03] <sean__> ati radeon
[07:03] <Arwen> sean__, ATI? or NVIDIA?
[07:03] <Arwen> free or closed drivers?
[07:03] <ryan_k> Hi. I am running Kubuntu Feisty Fawn. Halting my system seems pretty quick...what in the system logs will indicate a successful shutdown?
[07:03] <Arwen> [Shutdown]  ?
[07:03] <sean__> that, I'm not too sure, I do recall it took me a while to get it going
[07:03] <Arwen> and shutting down is supposed to be quick
[07:03] <Arwen> sean__, "glxinfo | grep vendor"
[07:04] <sean__> mesa3d
[07:04] <sean__> that's free I think
[07:04] <ryan_k> right i used to use older hardware with mandriva and shutting down took a while...now i am using a much faster system and i see that term signlas have been sent etc but want to make sure everything is fine
[07:04] <Arwen> yeah, also "glxinfo | grep direct"
[07:05] <sean__> direct rendering: No
[07:05] <Arwen> there we go :-)
[07:05] <Arwen> you don't have 3d accel
[07:07] <sean__> that was yse a few minutes ago, but I changed the composites extension from 0 to 1
[07:07] <sean__> and then it failed
[07:07] <Arwen> sean__, oh, so you do have fglrx. It just crashed because you have composite 1
[07:07] <Arwen> you need to disable composite and install xserver-xgl (there's a guide somewhere)
[07:07] <sean__> someone told me it had to be for beryl
[07:07] <dale> What apps apart from kopete use the kde wallet?
[07:08] <Arwen> sean__, well, yes, but ATI drivers don't support it. You need it emulated in software.
[07:08] <sean__> ok, biab
[07:08] <ke3> i love the beryl
[07:08] <dale> beryl/compiz = compiz fusion
[07:08] <ke3> ye ye
[07:08] <knubbe> anyone who can help me install java (for firefox, JRE)? ive installed the packages from the repository, but it just doesnt work, it still says i need to install the JRE. same problem with mplayer.
[07:08] <Arwen> beryl = DEAD
[07:09] <Arwen> knubbe, which version of Ubuntu?
[07:09] <dale> Beryl WAS mcuh better than compiz.
[07:09] <Arwen> beryl *is* compiz
[07:09] <ke3> i have just beryl
[07:09] <Arwen> all the beryl project was doing was writing plugins for compiz
[07:09] <dale> When is compiz fusion going to realesed?
[07:09] <NickPresta> Arwen, it's been a while since I've read the post but Beryl and Compiz are merging back together "officially" on the next version release, correct?
[07:09] <ke3> any way i am happy with this shiit
[07:10] <knubbe> Arwen: latest kubuntu
[07:10] <dale> test
[07:10] <navets> hey do you guys know an open source program to like video tape your screen. haha i completly forget what its called
[07:10] <navets> hey do you guys know an open source program to like video tape your screen. haha i completly forget what its called
[07:10] <Arwen> NickPresta, that's *why* beryl is dead
[07:10] <NickPresta> navets, RecordMyDesktop
[07:10] <navets> sory double post
[07:10] <navets> thanks
[07:11] <dale> How many times have you guys installed kubuntu, everytime i break somethink I always find myself reinstalling it.
[07:11] <Arwen> knubbe, hmm, did you install 'sun-java6-jre' and 'sun-java6-plugin'?
[07:11] <NickPresta> dale, rarely do you have to reinstall a GNU+Linux OS when something goes wrong.
[07:12] <ke3> and nothing goes wrong in gnu+linux :-)
[07:12] <dale> I know, but i hate knowing that my system has problems.
[07:12] <knubbe> Arwen: yupp.
[07:13] <Arwen> knubbe, update-alternatives --config java. Try that
[07:13] <NickPresta> dale, like what?
[07:13] <BluesKaj> dale, problems can be fixed without reinstallation of the whole OS
[07:13] <dale> Ok, thanks
[07:13] <dale> How comes in irc channels only like 10% of the people connect actually talk?
[07:13] <dale> connected*
[07:14] <Arwen> hehe, because the rest are bots
[07:14] <sean____> Arwen, now I get No composite extension
[07:14] <Arwen> sean____, yes, you need to emulate it with Xgl
[07:14] <Arwen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beryl/ATI/Feisty
[07:14] <sean____> hmm, how do i do that?
[07:14] <knubbe> Arwen: looks ok to me
[07:14] <dale> Whats the point in bots? I guess it kind of fools people to think that the channel is very popular?
[07:14] <sean____> thanks
[07:15] <ke3> know i understand why the linux people is so fan becouse i have for the last 2 months and i am too ;-)
[07:15] <knubbe> Arwen: since i couldnt install mplayer either, i assume the problem isnt java specific
[07:15] <BluesKaj> dunno dale , i never asked them :)
[07:15] <adaptr> dale various points thereof... documentation, for one:
[07:15] <dale> lol
[07:15] <adaptr> !doc
[07:15] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[07:15] <adaptr> banter, very important on slow, lonely nights
[07:15] <adaptr> and sometimes just for yelling at it
[07:16] <Arwen> knubbe, hmm
[07:16] <dale> I need to install a 32bit browser in my 64bit system, was thinking firefox, any recomendation?
[07:16] <adaptr> yeah, firefox
[07:16] <dale> need flash :P
[07:16] <Arwen> dale, yes, firefox. Go download it from mozilla.com, install "ia32-libs", and have fun.
[07:16] <dale> Thanks
[07:16] <knubbe> Arwen: i created a link to the .so-file in .mozilla/plugins, so i can use java now.
[07:17] <ke3> were i can fin themes for beryl ?
[07:17] <knubbe> Arwen: doesnt feel very good to do it that way though
[07:17] <Arwen> knubbe, ah, ok. Yeah, it just worked (tm) for me.
[07:17] <dale> Just curious, I have about 15 albums in my amarok, how many do you guys have?
[07:18] <Arwen> 2
[07:18] <Arwen> lol
[07:18] <dale> I dont really want to "bloat" it.
[07:18] <knubbe> 0
[07:18] <dale> Why so low?
[07:18] <Arwen> because buying music is for squares
[07:18] <nosrednaekim> I have 30 albums, but not in the actual playlist
[07:18] <dale> who said i bought it?
[07:19] <dale> ;)
[07:19] <Arwen> ..........
[07:19] <Arwen> pirating music is for cubes
[07:19] <dale> So you dont have music on your system?
[07:19] <ke3> how i can see the cube in beryl ?? plz
[07:19] <Arwen> ke3, hit "ctrl+alt+mouseclick"
[07:20] <nosrednaekim> ke3: or ctrl+alt+arrows
[07:20] <dale> So how many users are actually "active" her?
[07:20] <Arwen> about 5 :-)
[07:20] <dale> Are you serious?
[07:21] <ke3> wow my god !!!!!!!!!
[07:21] <ke3> Arwen !! thx amazing ;-)
[07:22] <dale> ke3: have you noticed the wobble feature when moving your windows?
[07:22] <NickPresta> I know this is not directly related to Kubuntu but does anyone else experience Beryl not remembering the window size of an application (specifically my Pidgin conversation window)?
[07:23] <dale> I would also like to know that!
[07:23] <ke3> i just see the same desktop in the all cube is normal?
[07:25] <rog> hhh
[07:25] <NickPresta> ke3, yes. Those are your virtual desktops. They're virtually identical ;)
[07:25] <ke3> oh forget i am stupid becouse i not open another windows
[07:26] <ke3> thz everybody thx linus tovalds thx stallman i love it ;-)
[07:27] <hilary> hello all =)
[07:27] <nosrednaekim> hilary: just lurking?
[07:28] <navets> hey how do I chang the settings of recordmydesktop
[07:29] <navets> is there a GUI?
[07:29] <NickPresta> navets, you need to download the GUI version - "gtk-RecordMyDesktop"
[07:29] <navets> can i apt0get that?
[07:30] <NickPresta> navets, yeah
[07:30] <hilary> nnoooo I'm having problems again nosred =(
[07:30] <hilary> some guy had helped me before by helping me use a proxy but now I think the problem I had yesterday is back
[07:30] <hilary> so now I dont know what to do =(
[07:32] <nosrednaekim> hilary: you use a proxy?
[07:32] <hilary> I never use to no, atleast I didnt think so
[07:33] <hilary> some guy told me to add an adress and some port numbers into the Proxy page on Mozilla
[07:33] <hilary> and it worked
[07:33] <hilary> I dont even know what a proxy is lolz
[07:36] <nosrednaekim> hilary: I don't know how to do proxies.
[07:36] <hilary> aawww
[07:36] <hilary> me neither :) its ok
[07:36] <nosrednaekim> do you remember the guy's name?
[07:36] <hilary> urmm
[07:37] <hilary> darkmagez
[07:37] <hilary> yeah its DarkmageZ
[07:37] <hilary> :)
[07:37] <hilary> hes not here now though
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> hilary: oh.
[07:38] <navets> humm installed gtk-RecordMyDesktop but i still dont get a GUI? what am i doing wrong?
[07:38] <hilary> if there was another proxy I could use
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> well... he's not around today it seems
[07:38] <nosrednaekim> !proxy
[07:38] <ubotu> The #ubuntu channel and related channels ban users joining from anonymous gateways like tor/silenceisdefeat/cgi:irc because the abuse:useful ratio is close to infinity:nothing -- project cloaks will let you join, otherwise you should simply not use an anonymizer.
[07:38] <ubotu> Attention tor users.  You may think you are anonymous, but you are not.  Please visit http://tor.unixgu.ru/ and see for yourself.   Please evaluate your need to use tor here on irc.  If you wish anonymity, Freenode offers cloaks of many different types. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[07:39] <nosrednaekim> !proxies
[07:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proxies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <hilary> doesnt help me much =( silly bot lol
[07:40] <Arwen> ...actually, since Ubuntu bans proxies, that means people in China can't get support. Go figure.
[07:40] <hilary> hey Arwen =)
[07:40] <crocodile> is there a good non console irc client besides xchat and konversation?
[07:41] <Arwen> console? irssi
[07:41] <NickPresta> navets, the package name is actually "gtk-recordmydesktop". You have that, right?
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> GAIM.
[07:41] <Arwen> he said console....
[07:41] <Arwen> oh wait, non-console
[07:41] <NickPresta> and it's Pidgin now anyways :P
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> not really.
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> I was kidding
[07:41] <crocodile> Non-console
[07:41] <outtawedlock> what's hte difference between relative and symbolic link? I wanna create a symbolic link from /home/usr/My\ Music/ to /media/Multimedia/Mu\ Music/
[07:41] <Arwen> nope, konversation and xchat are the only good ones
[07:41] <outtawedlock> how do  I do that?
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> he said NON-console
[07:42] <Arwen> outtawedlock, relative links are a kind of symlink
[07:42] <navets> NickPresta: yes i have it
[07:42] <Arwen> ln -s <target of link> <name of link>
[07:42] <outtawedlock> ln -s /home/user/My\ Music/ /media/Multimedia/My\ Music/  ??
[07:42] <outtawedlock> will that work?
[07:42] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta: techinically i'm still using GAIM
[07:42] <nosrednaekim> O:-)
[07:42] <outtawedlock> ohh
[07:42] <outtawedlock> the other way around
[07:42] <crocodile> so is there anything?  Xchat drives me mad the way it displays nicknames in chat
[07:42] <outtawedlock> well that's weird
[07:42] <Arwen> outtawedlock, yes
[07:42] <outtawedlock> name of link at the end
[07:43] <Arwen> or the other way if that's not what you want
[07:43] <Arwen> make sure you remember the "-s" or else it'll hard link em which is probably not what you want
[07:43] <nosrednaekim> crocodile: you could use kopete
[07:44] <navets> how do i get the GUI to appear for recordmy desktop
[07:44] <navets> i installed gtk-RecordMyDesktop but dont see a gui anywhere
[07:45] <navets> nevermind i found it!
[07:45] <navets> thanks
[07:47] <metal> any one know if exist kubuntu sourcelist generator ?
[07:47] <Schuenemann> can I use KDE 3.5.7 with edgy?
[07:48] <Jucato> Schuenemann: nope. no packages available. only for feisty
[07:48] <Schuenemann> k...
[07:48] <outtawedlock> OMG!!! is there a dictionary for Kubuntu or a SuperKaramba applet?
[07:49] <nosrednaekim> !source-o-matic | metal
[07:49] <ubotu> metal: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:49] <metal> ubotu ty
[07:49] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:50] <nosrednaekim> outtawedlock: yes to both
[07:50] <outtawedlock> nosrednaekim: which ones?
[07:52] <mike_> yo
[07:52] <nosrednaekim> outtawedlock: search adept for the dictionary, search kde-look for the applet
[07:52] <outtawedlock> nosrednaekim: can't you tell me the name?
[07:53] <outtawedlock> that'd be faster
[07:53] <nosrednaekim> outtawedlock: I forgot it...
[07:53] <nosrednaekim> sory
[07:53] <nosrednaekim> but I know there is one
[07:53] <outtawedlock> ok
[07:55] <hilary> ggrrr! how could it just stop working! =(
[07:55] <nosrednaekim> hilary: go to #ubuntu
[07:56] <navets> hey does anyone know if there is a way to get recordmydesktop to output avi files?
[07:56] <Arwen> navets, what does it output right now? AVI sucks.
[07:56] <navets> Arwen: it outputs ogg
[07:56] <Arwen> OGG > AVI
[07:56] <Arwen> nuff said
[07:56] <plontaj> hello :D
[07:56] <Schuenemann> who is this nuff everybody talks about?
[07:57] <Schuenemann> !nuff
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nuff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <plontaj> Everybody know how configure optimal wine?
[07:57] <plontaj> ? ? ?
[07:57] <Arwen> plontaj, optimal wine? just let it ripen.
[07:58] <ardchoille> lol
[07:58] <dale> Where can i learn about irc'ing
[07:58] <BluesKaj> 'nuff ... vernacular for enough , Schuenemann
[07:58] <outtawedlock> kdict isno't showing up in Kubuntu menu
[07:58] <outtawedlock> what's wrong?
[07:58] <ardchoille> dale: http://freenode.net is a good place to start
[07:58] <dale> Thanks
[07:59] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, ohh.... thanks heh
[08:00] <BluesKaj> wow, the aim generation doesn't know about irc ... 'suppose it was inevitable
[08:00] <Schuenemann> or the msn generation...
[08:00] <NickPresta> heh
[08:00] <BluesKaj> yup, aim sounds better :)
[08:00] <Schuenemann> where I live, ICQ died and AIM never existed
[08:01] <BluesKaj> ICQ ... tried it once ..what a zoo
[08:01] <BluesKaj> full of airheads
[08:01] <coreymon77> msn genereation knows plenty about irc
[08:01] <Schuenemann> MSN is the mostly used because it already comes with windows, of course
[08:01] <coreymon77> many people form it atleast
[08:02] <NickPresta> Schuenemann, in the US, more people use AIM than MSN, it seems and in Canada, more people use MSNM
[08:02] <dale> msn is the most popular client, where i live everyone hasit. and nothink else.
[08:02] <coreymon77> i could be considered part of the "msn generation" and im on irc all the time
[08:02] <Schuenemann> because AOL is well known there, I suppose
[08:03] <dale> Aol sucks
[08:03] <llutz> even we old usenet-users had to learn what irc/aim/icq means :)
[08:03] <dale> I used to have AOL, changd to virgin media.
[08:03] <coreymon77> did you guys know that icq was made by israelis?
[08:03] <BluesKaj> heh just goes to show,  NickPresta , that I'm ignorant of both and i'm in canada too :)
[08:04] <Schuenemann> yes, by mirabilis
[08:04] <outtawedlock> is there a better dictionary other than no-name bradn kdict? At least I expect Merrian Webster or Oxford Dictionary
[08:04] <outtawedlock> thanks
[08:04] <llutz> coreymon77: icq is evil, so who cares
[08:04] <Schuenemann> MSN (protocol) sucks and MSN (client) sucks
[08:04] <dale> Incanada what language is used the most? english or french?
[08:04] <coreymon77> english
[08:04] <coreymon77> by far
[08:05] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, I'm going to a meeting about imigration to Canada on monday :-)
[08:05] <outtawedlock> coreymon77: why?
[08:05] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, :>)
[08:05] <coreymon77> i really dont get where everyone gets the whole, everyone in canada speaks french as there first language idea form
[08:05] <coreymon77> from*
[08:05] <coreymon77> sure, i have had to learn french in school
[08:05] <dale> English is better :P
[08:05] <coreymon77> but english is still my first language
[08:05] <BluesKaj> Quebec media coreymon77:)
[08:06] <Schuenemann> the imigration is to Quebec, they want people interested in learning french
[08:06] <dale> But also the USA uses english.
[08:06] <outtawedlock> I am looking for a Oxford Dictionary app and applet anyone know anbout it?
[08:06] <NickPresta> coreymon77, that's a stereotype - very few people in Canada speak French unless they actually want/need to. You don't have to take High School French after Grade 9 so many people don't know how to carry on a conversation in French
[08:06] <coreymon77> NickPresta: im canadian too
[08:06] <ubunturos> outtawedlock: may be you can configure kdict for it
[08:06] <coreymon77> NickPresta: i know that
[08:06] <dale> Does anyone here think the usa  is sort of changing it language to just an american language?
[08:07] <Schuenemann> NickPresta, well, I met a guy from Canada and he can only speak french
[08:07] <BluesKaj> Americans vist Quebec and think it's representative of the whole country
[08:07] <dale> Like icebox, cookie etc..
[08:07] <outtawedlock> ubunturos: ah ok I didn't know
[08:07] <NickPresta> coreymon77, I misread what you said earlier. I thought you were saying that everyone can speak French, not that others think everyone can speak French. My mistake =)
[08:07] <ubunturos> outtawedlock: well, I'm not to sure. But there must be a options to do it
[08:07] <TrueFX> hi guys
[08:07] <coreymon77> Schuenemann: well of course, and ive met americans who can only speak spanish
[08:07] <BluesKaj> a mountie on horseback on everycorner :)
[08:07] <coreymon77> does that mean that the whole countryonly speaks spanish?
[08:07] <Schuenemann> coreymon77, born there? hehe
[08:07] <TrueFX> hol a
[08:08] <TrueFX> salut tout le monde
[08:08] <TrueFX> tout le monde parle en franais
[08:08] <dale> No country has just on language due to imagration.
[08:08] <TrueFX> c'est vrai
[08:08] <NickPresta> the whole world does not speak french :(
[08:08] <Schuenemann> coreymon77, of course not, but I thought everybody spoke english (at least) there
[08:08] <Schuenemann> !fr | TrueFX
[08:08] <ubotu> TrueFX: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:08] <TrueFX> non non nous parlions en franais oui nous parlons en franais
[08:08] <BluesKaj> en francais tout le monde ...what arrogance
[08:08] <TrueFX> :)
[08:08] <TrueFX> pardon me
[08:08] <TrueFX> :)
[08:08] <NickPresta> hehe
[08:08] <TrueFX> i ve got a question
[08:08] <dale> bonjour!
[08:08] <TrueFX> i ve been warned
[08:08] <TrueFX> :)
[08:08] <TrueFX> ok
[08:09] <TrueFX> ive just installed windows in another hard disk drive
[08:09] <dale> tut tut
[08:09] <TrueFX> and i want to have a dual boot system
[08:09] <TrueFX> can i do that by rerunning grub?
[08:09] <TrueFX> if so how?
[08:09] <TrueFX> i dont want to do it manually
[08:09] <Schuenemann> TrueFX, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:09] <kharloss> hi  .  my kde K button and kde bar dissapear . how can i restore it ?
[08:10] <TrueFX> normally when i install windows first and then kubuntu it recognazie it automatically
[08:10] <NickPresta> TrueFX, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[08:10] <kharloss> probbably i close it ..
[08:10] <Jucato> kharloss: press Alt+F2 and type "kicker"
[08:10] <TrueFX> is there not a way to do it automatically?
[08:10] <NickPresta> TrueFX, not that I know of.
[08:10] <Schuenemann> read the link... it's not a lot of work
[08:10] <TrueFX> probing operating systems
[08:10] <TrueFX> ok
[08:11] <BluesKaj> the above is as automatic as it gets
[08:11] <BluesKaj> unless you want to DL and burn a SuperGrb disk and run that at bootup, TrueFX
[08:11] <BluesKaj> err superGrub
[08:12] <kharloss> Jucato: nothing happened ..
[08:12] <Jucato> kharloss: Press Ctrl+Esc and check in the list if kicker is running
[08:13] <kharloss> yes  it`s running ..
[08:13] <NickPresta> kharloss, if worse comes to worst and no solution works, just restart X (Control+Alt+Delete)
[08:13] <kharloss> i restarted twice
[08:13] <Jucato> kharloss: Press Alt+F2, "kcontrol", then go to Desktop -> Panels and try changing the Arrangement or Hiding settings.
[08:14] <kharloss> nothing happened .. i use auto hide after 5 sec .. but i guess i closed ..
[08:14] <dale> I install ubuntu on a friends machine who has an ati card, and he want to play games. :P lool
[08:14] <kharloss> thanks a lot
[08:15] <outtawedlock> dale: tell him to get a PS3 or something
[08:15] <kharloss> it`s working .
[08:15] <coreymon77> outtawedlock: you mean a wii right?
[08:15] <BluesKaj> dale, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide... this will help him run games
[08:15] <dale> Thanks
[08:16] <ubunturos> kharloss: so, did you restart X to bring back the panel?
[08:17] <mtv> i have recently update my ubuntu install to fiesty.  I have downloaded the correct kernel header files, but vmware server is looking for C header files in usr/src/linux/include.  This is my first time dealing with this.  I know that there is an include folder within the generic kernel i downloaded.  I do i make vmware point to that without giving me the error,"..but does not contain a "linux subdirectory as expected'?
[08:19] <el_isma> Hi! I'm setting up lm-sensors. Ksysguard shows me all the values correctly, but if I try to put the sensor on my taskbar it doesn't show the value. How can I fix it?
[08:19] <outtawedlock> what's that package for KDE games?
[08:19] <outtawedlock> to get the whole collection?
[08:19] <outtawedlock> thanks
[08:20] <el_isma> outtawedlock: kdegames
[08:20] <basse> "kdegames"
[08:20] <NickPresta> Our of curiosity, has anyone here purchased the Dellbuntus?
[08:20] <outtawedlock> thanks
[08:27] <el_isma> Hi! I'm setting up lm-sensors. Ksysguard shows me all the values correctly, but if I try to put the sensor on my taskbar it doesn't show the value. How can I fix it?
[08:29] <hilary> =(
[08:30] <dale> How can i edit the kde menu?
[08:31] <llutz> dale: kmenuedit
[08:31] <outtawedlock> are there any other useful KDE apps that don't with Kubuntu default?
[08:32] <ubunturos> dale: in Alt+F2
[08:32] <dale> yes
[08:32] <dale> found it thanks
[08:32] <Lynoure> outtawedlock: that don't come installed by default, you mean?
[08:32] <outtawedlock> Lynoure: yeah
[08:32] <Lynoure> outtawedlock: I really really like Basket
[08:32] <outtawedlock> that's what I meant
[08:33] <outtawedlock> Lynoure: what does that do?
[08:33] <el_isma> outtawedlock: I like yakuake, it's a terminal that looks like quake's terminal
[08:33] <Jucato> dale: right-click on the K Menu icon
[08:33] <outtawedlock> oh
[08:33] <el_isma> outtawedlock: or Knotes. Postit notes. (I don't remember if it comes by default or not)
[08:33] <Jucato> outtawedlock: basket.kde.org
[08:33] <outtawedlock> el_isma: knotes, that's a good one
[08:34] <Jucato> outtawedlock: there are lots of other KDE apps. just have to search through the repositories, maybe some in kde-apps.org are in the repositories, etc
[08:34] <outtawedlock> wait, knotes and basket do the same thing?
[08:34] <dale> I get this error when starting apps in command line.
[08:34] <dale> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[08:34] <dale>   Major opcode:  147
[08:34] <Lynoure> outtawedlock: it kind of replaces knotes with less messy note system :)
[08:34] <dale>   Minor opcode:  3
[08:34] <dale>   Resource id:  0x0
[08:34] <Lynoure> outtawedlock: but some people use both, I suppose
[08:34] <outtawedlock> Lynoure: oh thanks
[08:34] <Schuenemann> dale, as I know, that's harmless
[08:34] <dale> Failed to open device
[08:35] <dale> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[08:35] <dale>   Major opcode:  147
[08:35] <dale>   Minor opcode:  3
[08:35] <dale>   Resource id:  0x0
[08:35] <dale> Failed to open device
[08:35] <dale> Does anyone know what it is?
[08:35] <Schuenemann> !pastebin | dale
[08:35] <ubotu> dale: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:35] <el_isma> dale: don't flood!
[08:35] <ubunturos> dale: you should usually paste these in something called as paste bin
[08:35] <dale> Have you cam accross it before?
[08:35] <dale> sorry!!
[08:36] <outtawedlock> is there a note app that I can use with a input pen and use my own penmanship?
[08:36] <el_isma> dale: That is harmless. It means some device could be located... I see it all the time because ubuntu loads -by default- a watcom tablet, I don't have one, so it cannot locate it
[08:38] <ardchoille> el_isma: You can comment out all the wacom stuff in xorg.conf and that error will go away
[08:38] <ardchoille> dale: ^^
[08:38] <hilary> Can someone be kind enough to try and help me =(
[08:39] <el_isma> ardchoille: I know, I'm just too lazy :)
[08:39] <ardchoille> hilary: Help with what?
[08:39] <ardchoille> el_isma: hahaha
[08:39] <enry> goodbye!
[08:39] <dale> ok thanks
[08:40] <hilary> I'm having strange problems. All of my messengers are active and working, and I do have an internet ocnnection. But my Mozilla firefox fails to find any webpages, it hangs for abit then says "Server has Timedout"
[08:40] <hilary> and it does this with the Konquerer web browser too
[08:40] <hilary> someone before gave me some proxy settings to input before, and it fixed it for about.. 8 hours
[08:40] <a-865> is IPV6 enabled by default in Feisty?
[08:40] <hilary> but the same problem has occured again
[08:40] <BluesKaj> a-865, yes
[08:41] <dale> how can i comment out "wacom" it comes up several times.
[08:41] <a-865> BluesKaj: where do I turn it off?
[08:41] <dale>  Driver         "wacom"
[08:41] <ardchoille> !ipv6
[08:41] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:41] <BluesKaj> a-865,hangon
[08:41] <BluesKaj> there you go ;)
[08:41] <ardchoille> hilary: You might try disabling ipv6 per that page ubotu just posted.
[08:41] <hilary> I cant click URL's
[08:42] <a-865> BluesKaj: thx :)
[08:42] <hilary> my browser just hangs when I try to click URL's
[08:42] <hilary> well not hangs but it says it times out
[08:42] <hilary> if you get me =( I hope you do
[08:42] <mordaunt> will kubuntu automatically mount firewire drives?
[08:42] <ardchoille> Yeah
[08:42] <BluesKaj> ardchoille, IPv6 wouldn't necessarily cause a hang like that
[08:42] <Arwen> hilary, you need to edit the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and add "blacklist ipv6" to it.
[08:42] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: Ah, ok
[08:43] <hilary> want to guide me through how I do that?
[08:43] <hilary> If you would be so kind? =P
[08:43] <Arwen> hilary, ...you do that with a text editor...
[08:44] <ardchoille> hilary: Is your wget working?
[08:44] <llutz> hilary: open a console and type: sudo echo blacklist ipv6 >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[08:44] <Arwen> hilary, then, run "sudo rmmod ipv6"
[08:45] <hilary> ok ok hold on
[08:47] <Schuenemann> llutz, that echo appends it to the file?
[08:47] <hilary> when I type the bit that you said Arwen, I get "ERROR: Module ipv6 is in use"
[08:47] <llutz> Schuenemann: yes
[08:47] <Arwen> hilary, ah, then you'll have to reboot
[08:47] <llutz> Schuenemann: >> appends
[08:47] <Schuenemann> cool
[08:47] <Arwen> > = replace, >> = append
[08:47] <Arwen> don't know about >>>
[08:47] <hilary> =)
[08:47] <hilary> ok i'll be back
[08:48] <llutz> Arwen: not defined in bash afaik
[08:48] <BluesKaj> uhhhm, methinks hilary had a browser open
[08:48] <Schuenemann> I think he didn't append the line
[08:49] <Arwen> llutz, ok
[08:49] <el_isma> I'm setting up lm-sensors. Ksysguard shows me all the values correctly, but if I try to put the sensor on my taskbar it doesn't show the value. How can I fix it?
[08:49] <Arwen> BluesKaj, more like, she had ipconfig up not down
[08:52] <theotick> !konsole
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konsole - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <TrueFX> hi guys
[08:53] <TrueFX> what are the best books on debian system administration
[08:53] <TrueFX> and for making life easy in kubuntu or debian derivated operating systems?
[08:53] <llutz> TrueFX: http://www.debian-administration.org/
[08:53] <CUITO> hello i have some problem.....I use LILO but i want to change to GRUB(I only want...that i can boot my other OS(Windows XP)....LILO only boot Kubuntu i cant even choose which OS that is going to be booted.Can somone help me?
[08:55] <llutz> CUITO: sudo aptitude remove lilo && sudo aptitude install grub               should do it
[08:55] <hilary> back
[08:56] <CUITO> thanks
[08:57] <a-865> BluesKaj: dunno why, but smbmount wasn't working with IPv6 enabled. now it works.
[08:58] <BluesKaj> good , a-865 , prolly cuz your other network pc's still use IPv4
[08:59] <a-865> BluesKaj: pretty sure OS/2 has no idea what IPv6 is ;-)
[08:59] <BluesKaj> it's an internet protocol
[09:00] <a-865> one that's considerably younger than 20 years old
[09:00] <TrueFX> pardon me
[09:00] <TrueFX> how can i see the version of a program
[09:00] <TrueFX> for exemple grub
[09:01] <jzilla> Good Afternoon, Friends.
[09:02] <llutz> TrueFX: append "--version", works with most of them
[09:02] <CUITO> hello again
[09:02] <CUITO> That command dont worked :(
[09:02] <CUITO> llutz
[09:03] <llutz> CUITO: errormessages?
[09:03] <CUITO> no it launch lilo and lilo launch kubuntu
[09:03] <CUITO> ..but
[09:03] <TrueFX> llutz:thx a lot
[09:04] <CUITO> i changed the flag on windows partition to boot when i was in gparted
[09:04] <CUITO> and it launched windows
[09:05] <CUITO> and there i found PQboot and there it where that kubuntu hould launch and i restarted and now i am here ...
[09:05] <CUITO> should=hould
[09:05] <llutz> CUITO: i gave you a command to be done in kubuntu. no idea what pqboot is
[09:06] <CUITO> a booter
[09:06] <CUITO> that i cant remove....
[09:08] <CUITO> i did that command in kubuntu
[09:08] <CUITO> ...
[09:08] <akrus> hello, is it possible to set amarok's language to english?
[09:08] <akrus> I have russian language pack installed :x
[09:08] <akrus> just there're too many 'BROKEN TRANSLATION' strings :x
[09:12] <a-865> BluesKaj: now if only I could make audio CDs quit ejecting before I'm done with them :-(
[09:12] <outtawedlock> youtube works in Firefox not in Konqueror and Konq has java globally enabled
[09:13] <outtawedlock> what's wrong?'
[09:13] <Arwen> YouTube is flash, not Java...
[09:13] <outtawedlock> well I have that one as well
[09:15] <Arwen> outtawedlock, meh, use Firefox then?
[09:16] <outtawedlock> Arwen: is that the solution??!! he? just to evade the problem instead of finding a fix???
[09:16] <Arwen> don't yell
[09:16] <Arwen> !attitude | outtawedlock
[09:16] <outtawedlock> how was that command line install firefrost?
[09:16] <ubotu> outtawedlock: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:16] <outtawedlock> sudo dpkg -i foo
[09:16] <Arwen> I don't know anything else, ok?
[09:16] <Arwen> mm?
[09:20] <BluesKaj> outtawedlock, check in konq settings/configure/plugins/scan for new plugins/save and apply
[09:22] <akrus> outtawedlock: Konqueror works well with youtube
[09:22] <draik> I have Feisty on my laptop. Updated the repos. Why can't I get ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop installed?
[09:22] <akrus> at least for me :)
[09:23] <akrus> draik: error message?
[09:23] <draik> akrus: one sec....
[09:23] <mindslant> I often have to restart kubuntu feisty on my laptop to get the sound to work, any ideas?
[09:23] <outtawedlock> is this alright?
[09:23] <akrus> outtawedlock: what version?
[09:23] <outtawedlock> sudo dpkg -i foo?
[09:24] <akrus> which*
[09:24] <outtawedlock> akrus: fiesta
[09:24] <akrus> foo? xD
[09:24] <akrus> well
[09:24] <akrus> i'm under gutsy atm
[09:24] <akrus> Konqueror can also use the Flash plugin if
[09:24] <akrus> konqueror-nsplugins is installed.
[09:24] <akrus> that's from repository
[09:24] <enzo_> akrus: here is the error message...
[09:24] <xultz> good day, folks!
[09:25] <enzo_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:25] <enzo_>   openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb: Conflicts: openoffice.org-core (>= 2.0.5) but 2.2.0-1ubuntu3 is to be installed
[09:25] <enzo_>   openoffice.org-l10n-en-za: Conflicts: openoffice.org-core (>= 2.0.5) but 2.2.0-1ubuntu3 is to be installed
[09:25] <[Al] chemist_ex> I think there was someone else who had mindslant's problem wasn't there?  I think it was due to the kernel update...
[09:25] <draik> akrus: enzo is my laptop
[09:25] <outtawedlock> akrus: I thought nonfree-flash would do the job
[09:25] <akrus> outtawedlock: so could you type: sudo apt-get install konqueror-nsplugins
[09:25] <outtawedlock> guess I was wrong
[09:25] <draik> akrus: enzo_ is my laptop
[09:25] <akrus> ok :)
[09:25] <[Al] chemist_ex> Mindslant, you might try an older kernel when you restart.
[09:25] <draik> enzo is someone else :(
[09:25] <akrus> so type that before installing '-desktop'
[09:26] <draik> type what?
[09:26] <xultz> I am trying to watch a .avi file with mplayer, but it says that I dont have avisynth.dll installed. I installed the codecs from Automatix, but I doesnt have that .dll instead. Where can I find a package with that .dll file, please?
[09:26] <akrus> sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb
[09:26] <Arwen> xultz, you FAIL. Don't use automatix, it sucks.
[09:26] <akrus> and afterwards do the installation
[09:26] <[Al] chemist_ex> mindslant, you might try an older kernel when you restart.
[09:26] <akrus> i believe these packages are outdated
[09:26] <TrueFX> hi guys
[09:26] <xultz> sorry, Arwen, I didnt know about that, I am new to Ubuntu
[09:26] <Arwen> that said, you need to fix mplayer's codecs.conf. It's trying to fallback to avisynth because your config files are malformed
[09:27] <akrus> xultz: what's with xine?
[09:27] <TrueFX> i ve got i usb disk 16 mb
[09:27] <TrueFX> how can i format it ?
[09:27] <TrueFX> i want to play grub loader to it
[09:27] <outtawedlock> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:27] <TrueFX> i dont have a floppy disk under my hand
[09:27] <akrus> outtawedlock: hm, enable repositories? o_O
[09:27] <BluesKaj> !w32codecs | xultz
[09:27] <ubotu> xultz: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[09:27] <Arwen> xultz, I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but lots of people break their systems with automatix
[09:27] <Arwen> BluesKaj, ...that's not the answer
[09:27] <akrus> use Synaptic :D
[09:27] <Arwen> xultz, do you know what codec the audio and video in your AVI are?
[09:27] <TrueFX> is there a way to do that?
[09:28] <xultz> I dont know whats wrong with xine, but he is really slow here, compared to mplayer
[09:28] <xultz> thank you Blueskaj, I will take a look
[09:28] <Arwen> hehe, anyway, xultz, please tell us more about the AVI? what kind of video is in it?
[09:28] <BluesKaj> ffmpeg , libxine-extracodecs
[09:28] <Arwen> or go ahead and ignore perfectly good advice, geez...
[09:29] <xultz> in fact, I am trying to download a video from youtube
[09:29] <Arwen> trying? so you can't download it?
[09:29] <xultz> I founded a script that works over Kommander that does the job
[09:29] <mindslant> thx alchemist
[09:29] <TrueFX> how can i format i usb drive in kubuntu?
[09:29] <[Al] chemist_ex> you know how to do that yes?
[09:29] <Arwen> (why do I even try?)
[09:29] <xultz> I can download as .flv, but I wish to create a DVD
[09:29] <BluesKaj> Arwen, yer so absolutley absolute about everything
[09:29] <TrueFX> in order to load grub in it?
[09:30] <enzo_> akrus: New issue...
[09:30] <enzo_>   openoffice.org-l10n-en-za: Depends: openoffice.org-common (< 2.0.5) but 2.2.0-1ubuntu3 is to be installed or
[09:30] <enzo_>                                       language-support-en but it is not going to be installed
[09:30] <enzo_>                              Conflicts: openoffice.org-core (>= 2.0.5) but 2.2.0-1ubuntu3 is to be installed
[09:30] <xultz> with DVD Styler, so I must convert it to mpeg in a way
[09:30] <TrueFX> by using command line or gui interface?
[09:30] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | enzo
[09:30] <ubotu> enzo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:30] <enzo_> Sorry
[09:30] <TrueFX> join #kubuntu-fr
[09:30] <xultz> I found some linecodes to use ffmpeg but none of them worked
[09:31] <akrus> okay
[09:31] <akrus> back again
[09:31] <draik> I can't install mjpegtools or qdvdauthor. Actually, I can't do much of anything anymore because many repos have been removed for Edgy
[09:31] <outtawedlock> thanks it worked after rescanning
[09:31] <akrus> enzo_: sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-l10n-en-za #die you unneeded package
[09:31] <akrus> this might help :)
[09:31] <BluesKaj> xultz, you'll find ffmpeg , libxine-extracodecs insynaptic or adept
[09:31] <jhutchins> xultz: Have a look at tovid.  It's a package of scripts (and a couple GUI's) to convert various formats of video and prepare them for burning as a standard DVD.
[09:32] <BluesKaj> tovid rocks !
[09:32] <xultz> Blues, I have ffmpeg but it gives me a error, maybe a wrong option
[09:32] <xultz> I will try tovid
[09:32] <akrus> TrueFX: you may try KMFormat formatting tool
[09:32] <draik> akrus: #die ?
[09:32] <TrueFX> ok
[09:32] <akrus> draik: kidding, it's just a comment
[09:32] <TrueFX> another question
[09:33] <TrueFX> how can i see where is my usb device?
[09:33] <TrueFX> under /dev
[09:33] <akrus> draik: you may try purge instead of remove
[09:33] <TrueFX> usb portable device
[09:33] <akrus> TrueFX: dmesg|tail right after you connected it :)
[09:33] <xultz> adept doenst know tovid, where can I found a package for him?
[09:33] <mike_> bah!
[09:33] <mike_> Where is  the UBUNTU channel!
[09:33] <mike_> :O
[09:33] <akrus> mike_: /j #ubuntu
[09:33] <draik> akrus: Ok. Thank you. It's installing.
[09:33] <akrus> draik: you're welcome :)
[09:33] <jhutchins> !find tovid
[09:33] <mike_> w00t
[09:33] <mike_> ty :O)
[09:33] <ubotu> Package/file tovid does not exist in feisty
[09:33] <xultz> !find tovid
[09:33] <akrus> lololol
[09:33] <draik> akrus: Not as much as I am thankful for the help
[09:34] <akrus> what's tovid? :)
[09:34] <jhutchins> That's... remarkably short-sighted...
[09:34] <akrus> draik: :)
[09:34] <jhutchins> http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
[09:34] <akrus> lemme check~
[09:34] <jhutchins> Since it is scripts, dependencies don't matter much, and it's safe to install it directly from CVS.
[09:34] <akrus> Wikia? o_O
[09:35] <akrus> isn't it the version of Wikipedia?
[09:35] <xultz> there are no packages with tovid? So I must download from the main page?
[09:35] <akrus> which has jokes and nothing more
[09:35] <akrus> xultz: likely
[09:35] <akrus> xultz: there it is!
[09:35] <akrus> xultz: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Tovid
[09:36] <akrus> download .deb for your architecture (x86/amd64)
[09:36] <draik> Anyone here using qdvdauthor?
[09:36] <draik> I can't install it
[09:36] <draik> along with mjpegtools
[09:37] <akrus> draik: error message? :x
[09:37] <jhutchins> Here is a debian .deb for tovid: http://tovid.sourceforge.net/download/debian/pool
[09:37] <outtawedlock> KDE icons are awfully jagged, are there any SVG themes?
[09:37] <xultz> I install it with dpkg -i tovid...deb?
[09:37] <akrus> outtawedlock: KDE4
[09:38] <akrus> xultz: yep
[09:38] <xultz> let me try it
[09:38] <akrus> jhutchins: getdeb.net is nice with feisty :)
[09:39] <TrueFX> how can i run kmformat?
[09:39] <TrueFX> ive installed it with apt-get install kmformat
[09:39] <TrueFX> but when i use run command ->kmformat
[09:39] <TrueFX> it cant be found
[09:39] <TrueFX> and i cant find it in my kmenu too ?
[09:39] <TrueFX> where is it installed?
[09:39] <outtawedlock> when using wine do I run the ISO or something?
[09:40] <TrueFX> neither with whereis command on konsole
[09:40] <xultz> I have a lot of depencies failing, is it possible to dpkg download the dependencies? Or I need to install one by one by hand?
[09:40] <jhutchins> TrueFX:  dpkg -L kmformat
[09:41] <draik> !source-o-matic
[09:41] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:41] <jhutchins> TrueFX: Being a system-level thing, a command to format something is probably in /usr/sbin, which is not in the regular user's path, intended for use only by root.
[09:41] <TrueFX> ok i see thx
[09:41] <TrueFX> yet another questino
[09:42] <TrueFX> i ve got a usb driver whcih i wnat to format
[09:42] <TrueFX> i donno its name in /dev/ directory
[09:42] <TrueFX> how is it named
[09:42] <TrueFX> how can i find usb drives names in kubuntu
[09:42] <TrueFX> i can list it with lsusb command on konsole
[09:42] <TrueFX> i dont want to format wrong drives
[09:43] <jhutchins> open a console.  tail -f /var/log/messages. Plug in the drive, watch what it's assigned.
[09:46] <akrus> TrueFX: KMFormat displays the size :)
[09:47] <TrueFX> yep
[09:47] <TrueFX> yet another question
[09:47] <TrueFX> how can i run KMFormat as root?
[09:47] <TrueFX> it does not format my usb drive
[09:47] <TrueFX> produce an error probably coz of permissions
[09:48] <akrus> kdesu KMFormat
[09:48] <noloved> do I need a pplug in for K3B to brun ISOS?
[09:48] <TrueFX> how can i possibly run any program as root
[09:48] <akrus> kdesu <any_program>
[09:48] <noloved> it keeps saying not recognized plugin
[09:48] <akrus> :)
[09:48] <TrueFX> again error
[09:48] <TrueFX> error during formattting?
[09:48] <TrueFX> without any clue on what the erros is
[09:48] <akrus> xultz: sudo apt-get install <name>
[09:49] <akrus> TrueFX: open konsole
[09:49] <TrueFX> ok
[09:49] <TrueFX> so?
[09:49] <akrus> TrueFX: which file system?
[09:49] <Pupeno> Does anybody know how to get X working on a MacBook Pro?
[09:49] <TrueFX> it does not matter with which file system i wnatto format
[09:49] <Pupeno> noloved: no.
[09:49] <TrueFX> i produce an error
[09:49] <akrus> mkfs.ext3 -v /dev/sdXX
[09:50] <TrueFX> file:///home/hasan/Desktop/Nessus
[09:50] <akrus> where sdXX something like sdc1
[09:50] <noloved> Pupeno: weird, I've tried with several bin/cue files by clicking cue and tells me that
[09:50] <Pupeno> noloved: those are not ISOs.
[09:50] <akrus> lol yep :x
[09:51] <noloved> Pupeno: how I am supposed to burn those?
[09:51] <TrueFX> root@TrueFX:/home/hasan# mkfs ext3 /dev/sdc1
[09:51] <TrueFX> mke2fs 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[09:51] <TrueFX> mkfs.ext2: invalid blocks count - /dev/sdc1
[09:51] <TrueFX> root@TrueFX:/home/hasan#
[09:51] <akrus> TrueFX: there's a dot right after mkfs
[09:51] <akrus> mkfs.ext3
[09:51] <akrus> :)
[09:51] <akrus> and add '-v'
[09:52] <akrus> it's verbose
[09:52] <TrueFX> root@TrueFX:/home/hasan# mkfs ext3 /dev/sdc1
[09:52] <TrueFX> mke2fs 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[09:52] <TrueFX> mkfs.ext2: invalid blocks count - /dev/sdc1
[09:52] <TrueFX> root@TrueFX:/home/hasan#
[09:52] <akrus> wait
[09:52] <akrus> DOT!
[09:52] <akrus> POINT!
[09:52] <Pupeno> noloved: I don't know. Thankfully I've never had to deal with those weird formats.
[09:52] <akrus> mkfs<dot>ext3
[09:52] <akrus> :)
[09:52] <akrus> and is it sdc1 on your pc?
[09:52] <TrueFX> root@TrueFX:/home/hasan# mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc1
[09:52] <TrueFX> mke2fs 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[09:52] <TrueFX> /dev/sdc1 is mounted; will not make a filesystem here!
[09:52] <TrueFX> pardon i ve copied wrong thing
[09:53] <akrus> :x
[09:53] <akrus> thank god it was mounted
[09:53] <TrueFX> what's wrong now?
[09:53] <Pupeno> noloved: but if you search for "linux burn bin" or "linux burn cue" in some web searcher, you're likely to find something.
[09:53] <BluesKaj> hey gents ..pastebin perhaps ?
[09:53] <TrueFX> so
[09:53] <akrus> TrueFX: so is it /dev/sdc1?
[09:53] <TrueFX> yep
[09:53] <akrus> okay
[09:53] <TrueFX> ive found it with KMFormat
[09:53] <akrus> my intuition is working well
[09:53] <akrus> :)
[09:53] <TrueFX> 15 mb usb driver
[09:53] <akrus> run this
[09:54] <akrus> sudo umount /dev/sdc1
[09:54] <TrueFX> im root
[09:54] <akrus> and format it using KMFormat
[09:54] <akrus> it will work
[09:54] <akrus> then dismiss sudo
[09:54] <akrus> otherwise it will dismiss it automatically
[09:54] <TrueFX> ok
[09:55] <TrueFX> it's formatted succesfully
[09:55] <akrus> :)
[09:55] <TrueFX> can i place grub on it
[09:55] <akrus> re-connect it now
[09:55] <TrueFX> ive formatted ext3
[09:55] <akrus> hm... i think you can... but i don't remember how :)
[09:55] <TrueFX> how can i mount all filesystem in /etc/fstab ?
[09:56] <Pupeno> TrueFX: mount -a I believe.
[09:56] <TrueFX> ok thx Pupeno
[09:56] <TrueFX> i can boot with usb drive right?
[09:56] <TrueFX> coz i dont have a diskette driver so il try to install grub in usb driver
[09:56] <Pupeno> TrueFX: that depends on the BIOS of your computer (motherboard).
[09:57] <TrueFX> as far as i know i can boot from usb
[09:57] <TrueFX> ok let me go on if i ve come across with more erros be prepared :)
[09:57] <TrueFX> thx again
[09:58] <akrus> TrueFX: good luck :P
[09:58] <draik> anyone every gotten this error message?
[09:58] <draik> ***sorry***
[09:58] <akrus> ever*
[09:58] <draik> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
[09:58] <draik> E: Error occurred while processing language-pack-gnome-nds (NewVersion1)
[09:58] <draik> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_feisty-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages
[09:58] <draik> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[09:58] <akrus> !pastebin|draik
[09:58] <ubotu> draik: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:58] <akrus> :)
[09:59] <draik> :(
[09:59] <akrus> just when it's 4+ lines it's not recommended :)
[09:59] <nosrednaekim> draik: I'd update my package lists.
[09:59] <akrus> so okay -> away now -> watching video :)
[10:00] <eguzkia> hello someone here know why i can't run beryl with my kubuntu edgy?
[10:00] <eguzkia> i have nvidia GeForce 420 Go with nvidia-legacy-glx
[10:01] <TrueFX> ok
[10:01] <TrueFX> another question immediately
[10:01] <crdlb> eguzkia, because you need to use nvidia-glx
[10:01] <TrueFX> how can i find where is my partition containing boot directory?
[10:01] <draik> nosrednaekim: I have. Nothing
[10:02] <TrueFX> find /boot/grub/stage1 does not give a result
[10:02] <draik> I keep getting the same error message with apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[10:02] <TrueFX> error 15: File not found?
[10:02] <TrueFX> so how can i boot then in to linux?
[10:02] <eguzkia> crdb: i don't think nvidia-glx run on my old 420Go
[10:02] <crdlb> eguzkia, it can
[10:02] <eguzkia> crdb: there is a list to see that
[10:02] <shane2peru> TrueFX: are you trying to restor grub?
[10:03] <dale> Does kubuntu have any apps like Gimp?
[10:03] <TrueFX> yep
[10:03] <draik> dale: Kubuntu has GIMP
[10:03] <TrueFX> that's what i try to do
[10:03] <crdlb> eguzkia, http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[10:03] <eguzkia> crdb: so do you think i ca install nvidia-glx
[10:03] <TrueFX> im reading grub guide step by step
[10:03] <TrueFX> i ve formatted a usb drive
[10:03] <crdlb> eguzkia, yes
[10:03] <shane2peru> TrueFX: and it doesn't fine it?
[10:03] <TrueFX> im already in kubuntu
[10:03] <dale> Will i have to install loads of gnome libs for gimp?
[10:03] <TrueFX> but i cant have a dual boot system
[10:03] <draik> Anyone have a clue about that error message? I'm blank.
[10:03] <shane2peru> TrueFX: are you running off live CD?
[10:03] <eguzkia> crdb: but the problem is that in edy there are problem with dependency with beryl
[10:03] <draik> dale: no
[10:04] <TrueFX> i have to disconnect the hard drives to swicth windows and kubuntu
[10:04] <TrueFX> no
[10:04] <rami> kabantoo:)
[10:04] <draik> dale: sudo apt-get install gimp
[10:04] <shane2peru> TrueFX: yes, I ran a daul boot for about 2 years
[10:04] <TrueFX> i ve two drives
[10:04] <TrueFX> one containing kbuuntu
[10:04] <TrueFX> other windows
[10:04] <TrueFX> but i can boot only one of them
[10:04] <TrueFX> first ive isntalled kubuntu
[10:04] <shane2peru> TrueFX: that is going to complicate things, and only one connected at a time?
[10:04] <TrueFX> then i have disconnected it so that windows wouldnt write over it
[10:04] <TrueFX> nope
[10:05] <TrueFX> right now both of them are connected
[10:05] <dale> How comes when I install kde apps in gnome I have to install loads of kde lib, but i dont have to install any libs for gnome apps?
[10:05] <TrueFX> when i connect both of them i boot into kubuntu
[10:05] <shane2peru> TrueFX: ok, so you installed Kubuntu with only one connected?
[10:06] <shane2peru> TrueFX: if I'm not mistaken you are going to need to boot off of that drive, it should have installed grub, and you are saying it didn't?
[10:06] <eriefisher> TrueFX:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179902&highlight=124989
[10:07] <eguzkia> crdlb: ok but the problem is that i cannot download beryl-kubuntu from the edgy repository
[10:07] <draik> I'm stuck. I can't install anything, I can't update and I can't upgrade.
[10:07] <crdlb> eguzkia, did you add the beryl-project repository?
[10:07] <nosrednaeki1> draik: what happens when you try to update?
[10:07] <shane2peru> TrueFX: this is the guide you followed?
[10:07] <eguzkia> crdlb: can you give me the URL
[10:08] <draik> nosrednaeki1: same error as stated before.
[10:08] <crdlb> eguzkia, read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy
[10:08] <eguzkia> ok
[10:08] <dale> Sorry, What was the command to edit the kde menu?
[10:09] <ardchoille> kmenuedit
[10:09] <dale> Thanks
[10:09] <shane2peru> dale: right click on the menu, and select edit menu
[10:09] <dale> Thats easyer, thanks!
[10:10] <TrueFX> shane
[10:10] <TrueFX> yep
[10:10] <shane2peru> TrueFX: which link did you follow from the guide?
[10:10] <ardchoille> dale: I made a "Menu Editor" menu item in the System section because I have my desktop right-click menu set to show the applications menu instead of the desktop menu
[10:10] <mordaunt> has anyone tried out firefox3 ?
[10:10] <TrueFX> no no no
[10:11] <TrueFX> this is not hte link i read
[10:11] <TrueFX> i m reading official GRUB documentation
[10:11] <shane2peru> TrueFX: ok, this guide is just to restore grub
[10:11] <dale> ohhhhhhhh....
[10:11] <dale> Good Idea
[10:11] <dale> Does anyone know any kubuntu specific tutorial sites?
[10:12] <roho> !kubunut
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubunut - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <roho> !kubuntu
[10:12] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[10:12] <roho> :)
[10:12] <dale> Sorry lol
[10:12] <ardchoille> dale: You might find some at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu  or  http://www.kubuntu.org/documentation.php  or  http://kubuntuforums.net/
[10:12] <TrueFX> shane2peru
[10:12] <dale> Thanks guys.
[10:12] <TrueFX> i ve installed my windows on sda1 partition
[10:13] <draik> nosrednaekim: any idea about what is going on?
[10:13] <TrueFX> and linux on hda1
[10:13] <shane2peru> TrueFX: ok, but when you installed Kubuntu only one hdd was connected correct?
[10:13] <TrueFX> yep
[10:14] <TrueFX> then i ve disconnected it
[10:14] <shane2peru> TrueFX: were you able to boot into Kubuntu off that hdd after installation?
[10:14] <TrueFX> ive installed windos on another ide drive
[10:14] <TrueFX> yep
[10:14] <TrueFX> i use right now kubuntu
[10:14] <TrueFX> i can boot into windows and kubuntu
[10:14] <shane2peru> TrueFX: ok, so we established that that hdd was setup right
[10:14] <TrueFX> when i plug in one of them
[10:14] <shane2peru> right
[10:14] <eguzkia> crdlb: sorry but the problem is that i have already installed beryl on my machine but when i try ti run beryl go in crash
[10:14] <TrueFX> both set ups are right
[10:14] <TrueFX> both of them are marked bootable
[10:14] <shane2peru> TrueFX: you are going to have to play with mapping your drives now
[10:15] <crdlb> eguzkia, because it won't work with the legacy driver
[10:15] <shane2peru> which hdd do you want to boot with?
[10:15] <TrueFX> when both of them are connected i boot into kubuntu without chosing anything
[10:15] <TrueFX> so how can i do that ?
[10:15] <shane2peru> TrueFX: ok, that is because the other hdd was not connected, so Kubuntu didn't know it existed
[10:15] <eguzkia> crdlb: ok i have found the beryl chat
[10:15] <shane2peru> you are going to have to edit your grub menu list
[10:16] <TrueFX> ive done it  once but probably i ve made mistakes
[10:16] <TrueFX> do u wanna see it?
[10:16] <shane2peru> TrueFX: first backup your menu.lst
[10:16] <shane2peru> well, first I'm going to need to know how windows sees your windows drive, and what it is called.
[10:16] <shane2peru> other wise it won't help me to see your menu.lst
[10:17] <TrueFX> 1 title Windows
[10:17] <TrueFX>   2 root (hd1,0)
[10:17] <TrueFX>   3 savedefault
[10:17] <TrueFX>   4 makeactive
[10:17] <TrueFX>   5 map (hd0)(hd1)
[10:17] <TrueFX>   6 map (hd1)(hd0)
[10:17] <TrueFX>   7 chainloader +1
[10:17] <TrueFX> ive done it
[10:17] <TrueFX> first it was empty ive read something and ive changed it like that but it does not work
[10:18] <TrueFX> i have one ide drive and one sata
[10:18] <shane2peru> TrueFX: ok, but what is your windows hdd location when you type sudo fdisk -l
[10:18] <shane2peru> in the commandline
[10:18] <TrueFX> kubuntu is installed on ide older drive
[10:18] <shane2peru> TrueFX: ok, you are starting to leave my realm of knowledge.
[10:19] <draik> Figured it out
[10:19] <shane2peru> TrueFX: how does linus see your windows partition?
[10:19] <TrueFX> is there a paste boot here?
[10:19] <TrueFX> its a little large
[10:19] <draik> akrus: There were a few repos left behind from edgy
[10:19] <shane2peru> yeah, but I don't know how to use it, it is pastebin
[10:19] <shane2peru> TrueFX:
[10:19] <TrueFX> as sda1 as far as i know
[10:19] <TrueFX> ive mounted it manually
[10:19] <shane2peru> TrueFX: in the command line you need to type : 'sudo fdisk -l'
[10:20] <draik> For everyone running with the option of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu...
[10:20] <TrueFX> hasan@TrueFX:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[10:20] <TrueFX> Disk /dev/sda: 250.0 GB, 250059350016 bytes
[10:20] <draik> How do you setup the default apps?
[10:20] <TrueFX> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
[10:20] <TrueFX> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[10:20] <TrueFX>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:20] <TrueFX> /dev/sda1   *           1        3973    31913091    7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:20] <shane2peru> TrueFX: ok, just need the /dev/sda part
[10:20] <TrueFX> /dev/sda2            3974       27839   191703645    5  Extended
[10:20] <TrueFX> /dev/sda3           27840       30401    20579265   83  Linux
[10:20] <shane2peru> ok
[10:20] <TrueFX> /dev/sda5            3974       27839   191703612+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:20] <TrueFX> Disk /dev/hdc: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
[10:20] <TrueFX> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[10:20] <TrueFX> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[10:20] <TrueFX>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:21] <shane2peru> TrueFX: just the sda is where your windows is?
[10:21] <TrueFX> /dev/hdc1   *           1        4863    39062016   83  Linux
[10:21] <TrueFX> /dev/hdc2            4864        5045     1461915    5  Extended
[10:21] <TrueFX> /dev/hdc5            4864        5045     1461883+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[10:21] <TrueFX> Disk /dev/sdc: 16 MB, 16384000 bytes
[10:21] <TrueFX> 2 heads, 32 sectors/track, 500 cylinders
[10:21] <TrueFX> Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes
[10:21] <TrueFX>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:21] <TrueFX> /dev/sdc1   *           1         499       15952    1  FAT12
[10:21] <TrueFX> sorry everybody i donno how to paste using pasteboot
[10:21] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | TrueFX
[10:21] <ubotu> TrueFX: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:21] <TrueFX> sda1 windows
[10:21] <eriefisher> !pastebin
[10:21] <TrueFX> ok i havent seen paste link
[10:22] <shane2peru> TrueFX: why do you have a linux partition on sda?
[10:22] <BluesKaj> and draik , don't encourage anymore the flooding please
[10:22] <TrueFX> sda5 for backup files
[10:22] <TrueFX> i just wnated to install mandriva also
[10:22] <TrueFX> but its far complicated
[10:22] <TrueFX> 3 boot
[10:22] <draik> BluesKaj: not a problem
[10:22] <TrueFX> windows kubuntu and mandriva
[10:22] <shane2peru> TrueFX: ok, but you can boot into windows with just the windows hdd plugged in?
[10:22] <TrueFX> yep i can
[10:23] <TrueFX> i can boot into both OS
[10:23] <TrueFX> but without grub
[10:23] <TrueFX> literally manual configuration
[10:23] <TrueFX> :)
[10:24] <shane2peru> TrueFX: right, ok, you need to edit your menu.lst to open windows
[10:24] <TrueFX> i plug off the cables accordingly
[10:24] <TrueFX> how can i do that?
[10:24] <shane2peru> when you boot into Kubuntu can you see grub?
[10:24] <TrueFX> yep
[10:24] <TrueFX> i can run grub
[10:24] <shane2peru> ok, can you see your windows line?
[10:24] <TrueFX> ?
[10:24] <TrueFX> what do u mean with that?
[10:24] <draik> How do I setup the default app. It wants to keep using BitTorrent instead of kTorrent
[10:24] <TrueFX> windows line?
[10:25] <shane2peru> TrueFX: when you boot into Kubuntu, you can see the option to boot windows that you added to your grub menu.lst
[10:25] <TrueFX> i can see my windows partitions as mounted
[10:25] <TrueFX> how can i do that ?
[10:25] <TrueFX> i dont see anything
[10:25] <shane2peru> TrueFX: you can go to that line and hit 'e' to edit that line
[10:25] <eriefisher> TrueFX:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179902&highlight=124989
[10:26] <BluesKaj> draik , when the dialog pops up choose browse , then in filesystems choose usr, then bin, then ktorrent
[10:27] <shane2peru> TrueFX: you are going to have to just follow that link. I can't really help you more than that.
[10:28] <TrueFX> i havent understood quite well what i have to doo
[10:28] <TrueFX> do i have to change it to sda1 in my menulist?
[10:29] <TrueFX> especially maping part
[10:29] <Pupeno> I've installed Kubuntu in my MacBookPro and /etc/X11/xorg.conf is empty... what now?
[10:29] <shane2peru> TrueFX: no, leave it as hd, I have a sata drive and it is listed as hd
[10:30] <shane2peru> TrueFX: the mapping part I have never really done before, I would follow that guide as best as you can and keep trying.
[10:30] <shane2peru> TrueFX: if one way doesn't work play around with it a little more.
[10:30] <shane2peru> TrueFX: keep editing the menu.lst until you get it right.  That is about the best I can tell you.
[10:31] <TrueFX> ok ill try to do that
[10:31] <TrueFX> which one is hd0
[10:31] <TrueFX> which one is hd1?
[10:31] <TrueFX> sata or ide is listed as hd0?
[10:31] <mordaunt> so where can one find the feisty preview repos?
[10:32] <shane2peru> TrueFX: both are going to be listed as hd, probably your Kubuntu is going to be listed as hd0, and the windows as hd1 - my guess
[10:32] <shane2peru> TrueFX: the mapping changes that (I think) because booting needs to be the primary hdd, my guess, and that is all it is is a guess.
[10:32] <eguzkia> crdlb: i have installed nvidia-glx but doesen't work
[10:34] <eguzkia> crdlb: i have installed nvidia-glx but doesen't work
[10:34] <eguzkia> sorry the library to play mp3
[10:35] <Pupeno> nobody knows?
[10:35] <Megatron> Pupeno, maybe dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:35] <schizm> does glib-gettextize only come with versions of glib > 2.0?
[10:35] <BluesKaj> why is your xorg file empty , Pupeno
[10:35] <Pupeno> Megatron: that asks for some questions to which I have no answer and ends failing.
[10:36] <Megatron> how come you have no answers? examples please
[10:36] <Pupeno> BluesKaj: I don't know. It was left that way by the (alternative) installer.
[10:36] <Pupeno> Megatron: I don't know the sync frequencies of the monitor.
[10:36] <Pupeno> Megatron: I don't even know the supported resolution.
[10:36] <TrueFX> :)
[10:36] <TrueFX> thx shane2peru
[10:36] <TrueFX> :)
[10:37] <TrueFX> ill try to guess too
[10:37] <TrueFX> i hope grub lets me to do that
[10:37] <Megatron> Pupeno, you might choose "Simple" setup mode instead of "Medium" or "Advanced" ones
[10:37] <Megatron> as for resolutions, start from lowest one
[10:38] <Pupeno> Megatron: I am not even sure that a low resolution is right for a wide screen.
[10:38] <BluesKaj> well it has to be restored , and the choices you make when you reconfig we can help you with , but first we have to know some hardware info about your noyebook , like graphics cards etc
[10:38] <Megatron> but i believe your installation is broken (e.g. unfinished) - xorg.conf just can't be empty afaik
[10:38] <BluesKaj> some wiped the file
[10:38] <schizm> anyone?  glib-gettextize?   how to get it with feisty, dont want to compile it myself
[10:38] <BluesKaj> one
[10:38] <demonspork> !krdc
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krdc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <Pupeno> BluesKaj: it is a MacBook Pro... if you want to know anything particular I can try to find out.
[10:39] <Pupeno> Megatron: "Amount of memory (kb) to be sued by the viedo card"?
[10:39] <BluesKaj> Pupeno , lspci in the terminal
[10:39] <Pupeno> BluesKaj: yes.
[10:39] <BluesKaj> look for a graphics card
[10:40] <Megatron> Pupeno, i suggest you leave any unknown field empty, and the reconfigurer should handle it mor or less properly
[10:40] <lolj> elow
[10:40] <shane2peru> TrueFX: not a problem. When you get into editing grub, rather rebooting 100 times you can when at the grub menu before booting pick a line like your windows line, and then press the 'e' key to edit that line
[10:40] <Pupeno> BluesKaj: it is an Ati Radeon Mobility X1600.
[10:40] <Pupeno> Megatron: ok.
[10:40] <shane2peru> TrueFX: it will save you from booting 100x to see if it works
[10:40] <BluesKaj> ok
[10:40] <lolj> hey does someone has some experience wit kubuntu 64 bit for AMD
[10:40] <Pupeno> Megatron: that's what I did before, it didn't work. But I can do it again.
[10:41] <shane2peru> TrueFX: when you get it right, write it down and edit your menu.lst because those are temp changes.
[10:41] <Pupeno> Megatron: "use kernel framebuffer device interface?"
[10:41] <Pupeno> Megatron: the default is no.
[10:41] <TrueFX> where are usb devices are mounted?
[10:41] <TrueFX> is there a file like /etc/fstab for usb devices?
[10:41] <TrueFX> in kubuntu
[10:41] <Pupeno> TrueFX: anywhere, normally on /media, running "mount" in a terminall will show you where everything is mounted.
[10:41] <BluesKaj> lolj, yes ... hardware recognition wasn't working well so i switched to x86
[10:42] <Pupeno> TrueFX: there's only one /etc/fstab for everything, but some things like remobable devices are handled outside fstab.
[10:42] <Pupeno> TrueFX: you can list usb or any device on /etc/fstab anywhay.
[10:42] <BluesKaj> Pupeno, it's quite safe to choose defaults
[10:43] <Pupeno> Ok, I now have a xorg.conf file, but I still get: "no screens found".
[10:44] <TrueFX> ive connected my usb drive
[10:44] <TrueFX> its mounted automatically
[10:44] <TrueFX> but its not listed in /etc/fstab
[10:44] <TrueFX> also its name has changed probably
[10:44] <TrueFX> :)
[10:44] <Pupeno> TrueFX: no, those remobable devices mounted automatically are not listed in /etc/fstab.
[10:44] <TrueFX> where are they listed?
[10:45] <TrueFX> is there a files for those also?
[10:45] <Pupeno> TrueFX: nowhere.
[10:45] <Pupeno> TrueFX: since you can plug and unplug anything at anytime they are recognized on the fly and mounted.
[10:46] <Megatron> TrueFX, is there in fstab something like /dev/sda1 ?
[10:47] <eriefisher> TrueFX:usb drives are listed in /etc/mtab
[10:48] <eguzkia> sorry what can i do to here mp3 i think i need a library
[10:48] <eguzkia> someone can help me?
[10:48] <Pupeno> !mp3
[10:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:49] <Pupeno> !mp3 to eguzkia
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 to eguzkia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <Pupeno> !tell eguzkia about mp3
[10:49] <TrueFX> ok
[10:49] <TrueFX> they are listed there
[10:49] <TrueFX> etc/mtab
[10:50] <Pupeno> TrueFX: that file is "dynamic", it is written when something is mounted.
[10:50] <eguzkia> Pupeno: i cannot listen mp3 i think i need a library
[10:50] <Pupeno> TrueFX: when you unplug it it'll be removed.
[10:50] <TrueFX> ok i see thx
[10:50] <Pupeno> eguzkia: follow the links, do what's listed there.
[10:51] <gumjo> Does k3b burn UIF (MagigISO) images directly to a DVD?
[10:52] <Karti> Hi all just a quick one....If I plug in an IPOD will it get picked up straight away with Amorak or will I need some other apps?
[10:54] <Schuenemann> Karti, amarok? you will open it with konqueror
[10:55] <dale> Woahh yea! Ive finally managed to get flash working in a 64 browser.
[10:55] <pacman> anyone have any experience with Seagate external hard drives?
[10:56] <Karti> Schuenemann: WIll it play my files or will I need to copy them and will they play with their encryption
[10:56] <Karti> I just heard that there was someting I had to downlodad
[10:57] <Schuenemann> Karti, what do you mean? I thought you wanted to copy files to and from the ipod
[10:57] <pacman> anayone?
[10:58] <tombar_> i guess amarok will tell you if you need any extra codec/plugin/module
[10:58] <Karti> pacman: I use a 250 gig external networked drive is that is what you mean
[10:58] <Karti> but its WD
[10:59] <coreymon77> hi everyone
[10:59] <pacman> WD?
[10:59] <gumjo> anyone know if k3b can work with UIF files
[10:59] <Karti> Schuenemann: I have some downloaded music from ITunes on my wifes IPOD but I would like it play on my PC
[10:59] <Karti> Western Digital
[10:59] <coreymon77> who here has seen me help people in this channel and can vouch for me at the community council meeting?
[10:59] <etbarr> I'd like control over which directory a konsole tab starts in.
[11:00] <pacman> I've got everything plugged in right, but I'm not seeing it on my /media
[11:00] <etbarr> In particular, I'd like it to start in the same directory as the active tab
[11:00] <Schuenemann> Karti, they have encryption? I didn't know that
[11:00] <etbarr> Does anyone know how to configure konsole to do this?
[11:01] <Karti> Schuenemann: fraid so....I was just hoping to transfer them....if teh wife lets me!
[11:01] <Schuenemann> haven't you tested?
[11:02] <TrueFX> how can i see disk usage of a folder?
[11:02] <Karti> Schuenemann: As a windows user she thinks if I plug it into my PC linux will break it!
[11:02] <TrueFX> and its recursive folders?
[11:02] <Schuenemann> Karti, hehehe
[11:02] <Schuenemann> plug it when she isn't home
[11:02] <coreymon77> Karti: what, a usb key?
[11:03] <coreymon77> Karti: thats not true
[11:03] <pacman> Karti?
[11:03] <Karti> pacman: yes?
[11:03] <Schuenemann> more likely windows will break it
[11:04] <Karti> Schuenemann: true, but try telling her that!
[11:04] <pacman> is there seomthing i need to get to get this to work?
[11:04] <Karti> coreymon77:  SOrry?
[11:04] <Schuenemann> hehe :)
[11:05] <coreymon77> Karti: what are you trying to plug in?
[11:06] <Karti> coreymon77: an IPOD, mini I think
[11:08] <Karti> pacman: I have a usb drive (external) attached, but when I switch it on the system picks it up
[11:08] <coreymon77> Karti: there are programs that you can get off of apt to do that
[11:08] <Karti> coreymon77: any idea what they are called?
[11:08] <coreymon77> ipod
[11:09] <Karti> nah! what that easy?
[11:09] <coreymon77> Karti: apt-cache search is your friend
[11:09] <coreymon77> Karti: the package name is called ipod
[11:09] <Karti> just looking now
[11:09] <pacman> yeah, it's not showing up Karti...maybe I should reboot and see what happens
[11:10] <Karti> pacman: reboot with it unplugged and plug it in when the system is up and running
[11:10] <pacman> k
[11:10] <coreymon77> just apt-cache search ipod and choose one of the packages that come up
[11:11] <Karti> coreymon77: many thanks....that is a cracker. I have been using the apt-get install but the cache search is awesome!
[11:11] <BluesKaj> well if it's an ipod then was deigned for a Mac, not windows , so maybe it'll break windows :)
[11:11] <Karti> totally agree...
[11:12] <Schuenemann> don't underestimate windows' breaking potencials
[11:12] <Schuenemann> potentials*
[11:12] <coreymon77> Karti: what about the gtkpod package
[11:12] <grul> here
[11:12] <grul> Below is the demonstrated difference, though, at least for Ubuntu 6.06 and earlier. The example displayed is the package kword, but it works the same for any package that has dependencies.
[11:12] <hunf> i can't write to sources.list file
[11:12] <grul> Both aptitude and apt-get will install kword and its dependencies (kspread, kword-data, and libwv2-1c2), but only aptitude will actually remove the dependencies when kword is removed (and only if no other packages depend on those dependencies).
[11:12] <hunf> what can i do?
[11:12] <grul> so, please, stop telling people to use apt-get
[11:13] <Schuenemann> apt-get autoremove
[11:14] <hunf> anyone?
[11:14] <coreymon77> hunf: you have to edit it as root
[11:14] <hunf> how?
[11:14] <coreymon77> hunf: you can only edit the sources.list file as root
[11:14] <coreymon77> hunf: type this into a terminal window
[11:14] <Schuenemann> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sourcesl.list
[11:14] <Schuenemann> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:14] <hunf> i am sorry but i am new to linux and kubuntu
[11:14] <coreymon77> hunf: kdesu kate /etc/apt.sources.list
[11:14] <coreymon77> hunf: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:15] <dale> What do I need to install so i can play divx movies?
[11:15] <ardchoille> !codecs
[11:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:15] <eriefisher> hunf: ALT-F2 kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:15] <nosrednaekim> dale: search through adept for divx
[11:15] <pacman> hmmm, not picking it up
[11:15] <hunf> ok thanks
[11:16] <grul> what's kdesu? like sudo?
[11:16] <ardchoille> apt-cache search divx
[11:16] <Megatron> grul, yeah. KDE SuperUser
[11:16] <Karti> just installed the gtkpod, just about to play it
[11:16] <nosrednaekim> grul: yes, but for GUI apps
[11:16] <dale> Thanks, Its much better to talk to an human than a bot. ;)
[11:16] <BluesKaj> hunf, to open a text editor like kate  , alt+f2 , then type or copy and paste: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:17] <dale> hG3_Tg7a
[11:17] <dale> Oops..
[11:17] <ardchoille> grul: Use kdesu for graphical apps and sudo for cli apps.
[11:17] <grul> got it...
[11:18] <hunf> there is a way to install programs after i edited the sources.list file?
[11:18] <ardchoille> hunf: Once you edit that file, you need to run  sudo apt-get update  to update the sources.
[11:18] <nosrednaekim> hunf: of course. you need to do "sudo apt-get update" first though
[11:19] <nosrednaekim> to get the new package lists
[11:19] <hunf> Wow nice support guys
[11:19] <hunf> thanks
[11:19] <BluesKaj> yes hunf, the sources list is then consulted by whatever package manager you use to install the programs you want. either apt, adept or synaptic
[11:20] <nosrednaekim> hunf: NP
[11:20] <ardchoille> apt is the package manager, adept|synaptic|aptitude|etc are only gui front-ends.
[11:20] <dale> How can I write a message targeted to a user?
[11:21] <ardchoille> dale: That's a very good question
[11:21] <dale> :P
[11:21] <BluesKaj> lets not confuse the issue ardchoille ...we were all new once ...simple is best
[11:22] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: I was attempting to "clear the air" so to speak.. trying to avoid confusion to begin with ;)
[11:23] <dale> ...
[11:25] <nosrednaekim> dale: I know there was an app called talk.
[11:25] <ardchoille> There's also an app called write, but I'm not sure how that works.
[11:25] <BluesKaj> well ardchoille, i'm still in the 8th grade when it comes to my linux education, so i'm still in touch with my noob grades
[11:25] <dale> sorry I dont understand.
[11:26] <BluesKaj> :)
[11:26] <ardchoille> :)
[11:26] <nosrednaekim> dale: or you could write to their .bashrc ...
[11:26] <ardchoille> dale: Or you could write a text file on their desktop and stick a shortcut in Autorun
[11:26] <makuseru> !NFS
[11:26] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[11:28] <dale> How do I turn of that ipv6 thing?
[11:29] <nosrednaekim> !ipv6
[11:29] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:29] <dale> Thanks
[11:31] <nosrednaekim> thank you ubotu
[11:33] <pacman> still not getting my box to recognize my external hd
[11:33] <Misterfixit> wow that change over from wired to wireless was easy!  I've been using my cat5 and decided to try out a wireless card.  plugged in the RA2500 Linksys card and used the KWiFiManager application.  Blip .. I'm wireless now.
[11:34] <Misterfixit> Oh yes and found on the scanning three unsecured nodes in my neighboorhood.  Have to tell the neighbors!
[11:34] <crimsun> excellent.  That's how it's supposed to work.
[11:34] <Misterfixit> I thought so ... I can't tell you the pita it would have been under Fedora ... and I've been a Fedora guy since it was Fedora
[11:35] <Misterfixit> Ubuntu continues to amaze me at the completeness of the system
[11:35] <ryantucc> Could someone help? My computer is booting into a command line - I posted in the forum and got a response, but I don't entirely understand (see http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3084481.0)
[11:35] <ardchoille> dale: You can even write a self-deleting message; deletes itself after displaying the message:  http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/37628
[11:35] <krunchi> hi every body, i installed now kubuntu 7.04 but konqueror does not do browsing, konqueror works locally and ftp protocol works fine but at http protocol gives message could not connect to server, my net connection is fine, firefox, kopette are fine. only kontact and konqueror wont work. can any body helps
[11:36] <nosrednaekim> Misterfixit: RAlink... luck you
[11:36] <Misterfixit> Right now I have 20 windows, running in individual windows thunderbird, firefox, konversation, gaim, kaffeine, updates, system status, wireless scanner, comics reader (love that alt-cnl-del comic) and open office spreadsheets....
[11:36] <nosrednaekim> krunchi: it has to do with the network manager applet
[11:36] <nosrednaekim> its telling konqueror and ko[pete that you aren't connected
[11:37] <Misterfixit> Try running the network applet again
[11:38] <Misterfixit> and after that you might try pulling the power plug from your router and letting it reset for a couple seconds then powering it up again so it does the auto dhcp thing
[11:38] <krunchi> thanks misterfixit, i try now
[11:38] <Misterfixit> coolio
[11:38] <noloved> hi what the KDE screensaver for Kubuntu?
[11:38] <Misterfixit> if you don't come back we'll know it didn't work  :-)
[11:38] <frellum_> bonsoir
[11:38] <Misterfixit> Guten Abend!
[11:38] <Misterfixit> AnYong-Hasimika!
[11:38] <frellum_> y a-t-il qqun qui parle franais
[11:39] <Misterfixit> Hallo!
[11:39] <salo> alguien que hale espaol?
[11:39] <frellum_> someone spaek french
[11:39] <Misterfixit> j'scuse, no parlais mon ami; parlon english, latin, spanish
[11:39] <noloved> callate mierda
[11:39] <Misterfixit> et korean
[11:39] <frellum_> ok english
[11:39] <Megatron> !fr
[11:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:40] <noloved> esperanto
[11:40] <frellum_> comment fait-on ?
[11:40] <Misterfixit> et cowboy american too .... "hey dude, how's them things hanging?"
[11:40] <noloved> !esperanto
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esperanto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <grul> !internet
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <Misterfixit> !English
[11:40] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:40] <noloved> how come Ubuntu means towards humanity whilst excluding esperanto speaking folks?
[11:41] <Misterfixit> !klingon
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klingon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <Misterfixit> that is a good point .. I am planning on studying Esperanto too
[11:42] <Misterfixit> ok, enough fun.  see you all tomorrow.  I am going back to building more servers with a kickstart linux pack
[11:42] <noloved> Kubuntu's jagginess is unacceptable
[11:42] <hunfa> "Conversation with su failed"
[11:42] <hunfa> what should i do?
[11:43] <krunchi> misterfixit are you there
[11:47] <Misterfixit> hey krunchi, I am back
[11:48] <Misterfixit> your wireless setup must be working krunchi, you are back!
[11:48] <krunchi> i just wanted to thank you for help
[11:48] <krunchi> konqueror and kontact started working
[11:48] <Misterfixit> oh, you are very welcome.  I am please to help when I can.  I don't know much but will offer advice if I do kknow something
[11:49] <noloved> is there a way to make Amarok compatible with Frostwire?
[11:49] <crimsun> ok, UI question for you guys/gals
[11:49] <crimsun> in most KDE 3 apps, is there a Close or a Quit PushButton in the lower right corner of a main window?
[11:49] <Misterfixit> BTW once you are working with Linux for awahile and are comfortable with it you shold also share your knowledge.  two heads are better than one.  Of course, my mother-in-law has two heads, but that is another story
[11:50] <Misterfixit> noloved:  in what way making it compatible?
[11:50] <krunchi> kaffeine of kubuntu 7.04 crashed alot while trying to run video cd
[11:51] <Misterfixit> crimsun:  I am pretty sure it would depend upon which of your "themes" you would use, there are so many choices now in themes that it is hard to keep up with them
[11:51] <crimsun> Misterfixit: in the default 7.04 theme, for instance.
[11:51] <crimsun> (polyester?)
[11:52] <Misterfixit> i am pretty sure one of themes -- maybe poly?
[11:52] <crimsun> (not a KDE user normally, but I've written PyQt3 and PyQt4 apps, so I want the UI consistent)
[11:52] <Misterfixit> i'd have to check which one I am using ... :-)
[11:52] <noloved> Misterfixit: in the way that songs are automatically transferred to Amarok folder from FrostWire
[11:52] <noloved> is that possible?
[11:53] <Misterfixit> ui would be constant if you set it... that is constant throughout your particular instal and user  now if you want the same for multiple users you would need to work up the Kickstart app
[11:53] <noloved> what's Full Duplex IN sound?
[11:53] <noloved> is it better to have in full duplex
[11:54] <crimsun> yes, it's better.
[11:54] <crimsun> Nearly all modern digital audio controllers are capable of it.
[11:54] <Misterfixit> noloved:  oic ... well sure, you could set in frostwire/limewire and in amarok a folder called "noloved's music".  that is how I have mine set up --- /home/dave/music
[11:55] <Misterfixit> all music i either rip via CD or rip via other means i have pushed to that folder and then use EasyTag to sort things out and make sure all the tags are consistent
[11:55] <pacman> any idea what I need to do to get my seagate external hard drive to work?  I'm not seeing it anywhere on my box
[11:56] <Misterfixit> pac is it a usb or firewire?
[11:56] <pacman> usb
[11:56] <Misterfixit> also on music, my music streams which i rip from www.radioparadise.com are automatically pushed into that folder also by my stream record app
[11:57] <Misterfixit> if it usb then you can try to mount it manually, but the system usually mounts usb automatically and it shows up as an icon on your desktop
[11:58] <Misterfixit> i am not too conversant with the use of a usb external storage drive -- I have a firewire unit from Maxtor and it took some changes in my fstab file to get it to be seen and used
[11:58] <Misterfixit> let's see if our 'bot knows
[11:58] <Misterfixit> !external
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about external - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <Misterfixit> !usb drive
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb drive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <Misterfixit> !usb
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <pacman> hmm
[11:59] <Misterfixit> bot is usually pretty smart.  try that URI he gave us and see what you can find
[11:59] <Misterfixit> it pretty simple, however, so don't worry about "not" being able to use your external drive
[11:59] <hunfa> can someone help me with installing nvidia drivers?
[12:00] <Misterfixit> hunfa:  you should go to the ubuntu web site and read the nvidia pages VERY carefully.
[12:00] <Misterfixit> nvidia drivers and linux are a gigantic pain in the ass
[12:01] <hunfa> :(
[12:01] <omega> Hi.
[12:01] <pacman> thought nividia was better than ati
[12:01] <Misterfixit> i have the GeForce 6200 card and it took some cursing on my part to get it going so I can use the linux googleearth
[12:01] <omega> I just installed Kubuntu, and the bouncing program icon that is displayed when a program is launched is driving me crazy. How can I switch it off?
[12:02] <omega> I've looked through all the settings, but I cannot find it.
[12:02] <hunfa> can i install packages through the console?
[12:02] <Misterfixit> brb
[12:06] <hunfa> there is an option to install packages via console?
[12:07] <eriefisher> hunfa: sudo aptitude install (packagename)
[12:07] <hunfa> thanks
[12:08] <eriefisher> hufna: sudo apt-get install (packagename) will also work
[12:09] <PsiKloPx> I'm running Feisty Fawn on a 650 mhz Dell laptop with a 6 G hard drive.  Home directory and below is 1.8 G but 'df -h' tells me that I'm using 100% of the drive with only 534k remaining.  How can I find what's using the space?
[12:10] <PsiKloPx> ...and yes, trash bin is empty....;)