[12:12] <ScottK> bdmurray: Did you make the page for the next bug day yet?  w.u.c is telling me the page doesn't exist...
[12:14] <bdmurray> ScottK: No, I have not.
[12:14] <bdmurray> It would be just be a framework at the moment
[12:14] <bdmurray> But I could make that
[12:15] <ScottK> OK.  I was looking because I was curious about the mention of Postfix on your list of packages to focus on.
[12:15] <bdmurray> probably should r
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #121809 in inkscape (main) "Please merge inkscape (0.45.1-1) from Debian" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121809
[12:15] <ScottK> Since you referenced it in an e-mail you sent out already, I'd say it'd be a good idea...
[12:16] <bdmurray> Yeah, probably
[12:18] <bdmurray> ScottK: thanks for catching that
[12:19] <ScottK> No problem.
[12:19] <ScottK> bdmurray: Do you have any Postfix bugs on your list?
[12:20] <bdmurray> ScottK: not any specific ones I was going to run a query with bughelper to get some random bugs from those packages
[12:21] <ScottK> OK.  Last I looked there didn't appear to be any that were really worth fixing, but I don't look all the time.
[12:23] <LaserJock> bdmurray: got a sec to talk about bug management?
[12:25] <bdmurray> LaserJock: sure
[12:26] <LaserJock> I'm looking of Edubuntu bugs
[12:26] <LaserJock> and I've noticed a number of "Application X randomly crashed" bugs
[12:26] <LaserJock> some of them are fairly old
[12:26] <LaserJock> I'm wondering what the best way to handle them would be
[12:27] <bdmurray> LaserJock: Can I have an example?
[12:27] <LaserJock> bug #110831
[12:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 110831 in gpaint "gpaint closes while drawing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/110831
[12:28] <LaserJock> this is a fairly newly reported one, but it's for edgy and it doesn't seem terribly helpful to me
[12:28] <bdmurray> that's fairly old. ;)
[12:29] <LaserJock> in general I'm not exactly sure what to do with "Application X crashed" bugs.
[12:29] <LaserJock> obviously I can try the app on gutsy and say I can confirm or not
[12:30] <bdmurray> I would try to gather more information.  For example - specific package version and steps to reproduce.  Then wait 4 weeks and decide.
[12:30] <LaserJock> but often times they seem like random or freak crashes
[12:30] <ScottK> There's always the mark the bug invalid and deride the reporter for not having upgraded approach ;-)
[12:31] <LaserJock> heh
[12:31] <LaserJock> well, I tend to be fairly generous that way
[12:31] <bdmurray> They did take some time to report it.  Having to sign up etc, but we just can't work with that bug report.
[12:31] <LaserJock> but I do want to get rid of useless bugs
[12:32] <bdmurray> 4 weeks isn't too long to wait I think.
[12:32] <ScottK> LaserJock: My approach is to try to get more information and then if I can't at least try to make the reporter feel good about having gone to the effort so they are encouraged not to give up and go away.
[12:32] <LaserJock> what about apport bug reports like bug #95146 ?
[12:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 95146 in gpaint "[apport]  gpaint crashed with SIGSEGV in _gtk_marshal_BOOLEAN__BOXED()" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/95146
[12:33] <bdmurray> And I recently found a way to use bughelper to find bugs that are 4 weeks old and are Incomplete ne Needs Info
[12:34] <LaserJock> if it's an [apport]  bug report can I still get info from the bug reporter?
[12:34] <bdmurray> LaserJock: Yes, they still need to sign up
[12:34] <LaserJock> they're sub'd right?
[12:34] <LaserJock> ok, I was wondering about that
[12:35] <bdmurray> with the apport bug there are no steps to reproduce and it is in a "pre-final" version of gpaint
[12:35] <LaserJock> so should I ask for steps to reproduce?
[12:36] <LaserJock> or just close it and say "If you encounter this bug in a released version of gpaint please reopen"?
[12:37] <bdmurray> "Thanks for blah blah. This crash report was with a prerelease version of gpaint and includes no steps to reproduce the bug.  Could you please test this again with the latest version of gpaint and report back with detailed steps to reproduce the crash if it happens again."
[12:37] <bdmurray> or something like that
[12:37] <LaserJock> and mark it "Incomplete"?
[12:38] <LaserJock> that's the new Needs Info isn't it?
[12:38] <bdmurray> Yeah, it is.
[12:38] <bdmurray> I wouldn't mark it as invalid because maybe the stacktrace is useful to someone who knows the code.
[12:39] <bdmurray> LaserJock: Does that help at all?
[12:40] <LaserJock> yes it does, quite a bit
[12:40] <LaserJock> I'm just a little rusty here
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #121811 in maxdb-7.5.00 (universe) "maxdb-webtools daemon does not start because of syntax error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121811
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #121812 in maxdb-7.5.00 (universe) "maxdb-webtools does not start because of missing libraries" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121812
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #121810 in casper (main) "Gutsy Install Disk Boots up with Feisty Id Info" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121810
[12:41] <bdmurray> ScottK: I found 11 "New" postfix bugs
[12:42] <bdmurray> there isn't anywher to look yet
[12:42] <bdmurray> give me a sec
[12:44] <bdmurray> And I just pasted it into the wiki for you
[12:44] <bdmurray> :(
[12:44] <ScottK> No problem.  I'll look at the wiki then.
[12:45] <bdmurray> I was just kidding.
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121813 in xsp (universe) "Merge xsp (1.2.4-1) from debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121813
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121814 in spiralsynthmodular (universe) "Merge spiralsynthmodular (0.2.2a-4) from debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121814
[12:46] <LaserJock> bdmurray: ok, so the apport bug was marked as Medium importance, is it worth changing that to Undecided since we don't know much of anything about it?
[12:47] <bdmurray> LaserJock: I don't think so because 1) it is a crash 2) it is more useful than that Edgy report you mentioned
[12:48] <LaserJock> k
[12:50] <bdmurray> ScottK: that's cheating!
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121815 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "r8169 stops working after a while" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121815
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #121816 in Ubuntu "Hibernation disables the sound (even for windows)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121816
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #121817 in nautilus (main) "Popup for additional disk is confusing and frustrating" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121817
[01:09] <kbrooks> attention please.
[01:10] <ScottK> bdmurray: Cleaned Postfix up a bit, but there's still work to be done there.
[01:10] <bdmurray> ScottK: Did you set any bugs to Triaged?
[01:10] <ScottK> bdmurray: I set one.
[01:11] <ScottK> Now you're going to want to know which aren't you...
[01:11] <kbrooks> i have a monitor bug...
[01:11] <bdmurray> eh, I can find it
[01:14] <bdmurray> kbrooks: what kind of bug?
[01:17] <kbrooks> bdmurray, my radius (thats its name, not making it up) monitor apparently whites out in a way similiar to bug #110124 when it is inactive for a long time (haven't been able to quantify how long just yet) and i cannot recover any colour unless i reboot. even the standard ctrl+alt+bksp doesnt work. even ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work.
[01:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 110124 in xorg "onboard intel gmx3000 goes to blank white screen in X" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/110124
[01:18] <bdmurray> kbrooks: did you try the workaround in that bug?
[01:18] <bdmurray> and what video driver are you using?
[01:19] <kbrooks> ... i810
[01:19] <kbrooks> amazing
[01:20] <bdmurray> hmm?
[01:21] <kbrooks> bdmurray, i did grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and it tells me, ignoring irrevelant entries, that the video driver i am using is i810
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #121818 in Ubuntu "kdm - keyboard not function after login" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121818
[01:22] <bdmurray> okay and what about adding that Option "VBERestore" "True"
[01:22] <kbrooks> below that line where 'Driver "i810"' is located?
[01:23] <kbrooks> Section "Device"
[01:23] <kbrooks> 	Identifier	"Intel Corporation 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] "
[01:23] <kbrooks> 	Driver		"i810"
[01:23] <kbrooks> 	Option		"VBERestore" "True"
[01:23] <kbrooks> 	BusID		"PCI:0:2:0"
[01:23] <kbrooks> EndSection # that fine?
[01:23] <kbrooks> bdmurray, see above
[01:24] <bdmurray> yes, that looks good
[01:24] <ScottK> bdmurray: I think Bug #121499 should be rejected (it's not a bug), but since your boss is subscribed on the bug, I thought I'd give you a chance to look at if first.
[01:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121499 in Ubuntu "Donation recognition" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121499
[01:25] <kbrooks> i agree that it's not a bug.
[01:26] <kbrooks> bdmurray, okay, i will log out and in.
[01:26] <bdmurray> kbrooks: you mean restart X too right?
[01:27] <bdmurray> hrm, it shouldn't be an ubuntu bug
[01:27] <bdmurray> but an ubuntu-website bug
[01:28] <ScottK> OK, what package does one put in for that?
[01:28] <kbrooks> bdmurray, okay, set it
[01:28] <kbrooks> bdmurray, now what do i do
[01:29] <kbrooks> stimulate inactivity?
[01:29] <bdmurray> Did you just log out or did you restart X?
[01:29] <kbrooks> bdmurray, both work
[01:29] <bdmurray> Hm? Logging out restarts X?
[01:29] <ScottK> Figured it out.
[01:29] <kbrooks> bdmurray, Yeah.
[01:29] <bdmurray> I don't think so.
[01:29] <kbrooks> bdmurray: because X eventually exits when you log out.
[01:30] <kbrooks> bdmurray, Don't believe me?
[01:30] <kbrooks> bdmurray, OK, I can scrounge around for evidence for you.
[01:30] <bdmurray> If you want.  Yes, simulate inactivity.
[01:31] <kbrooks> bdmurray, okay, the basic facts (the things i evidently know so far)
[01:31] <kbrooks> bdmurray, ubuntu runs /etc/init.d/gdm start on bootup. this starts up gdm, which reads /etc/gdm/gdm.conf.
[01:33] <kbrooks> now, the things I don't know, but am learning:
[01:33] <kbrooks> taken from the man page for gdm: ' GDM runs and manages the X servers  for  both  local  and  remote  logins  (using  XDMCP).'
[01:35] <bdmurray> kbrooks: when you log out of your desktop session X does not restart and gdm is not run though
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #121819 in Ubuntu "No WLAN on Acer Extensa 1014" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121819
[01:35] <kbrooks> bdmurray, oh, really? I don't believe you. Please show me.
[01:37] <Zelut> evening
[01:38] <kbrooks> bdmurray, OK
[01:38] <kbrooks> bdmurray, You are right
[01:38] <bdmurray> kbrooks: put potato for your video driver in your xorg.conf and log out see if you can log back in
[01:39] <kbrooks> bdmurray, and yes, i can
[01:39] <kbrooks> bdmurray, if i ctrl+alt+bksp, i cant
[01:39] <kbrooks> ok, running that now
[01:39] <kbrooks> brb
[01:41] <kbrooks> ok
[01:41] <kbrooks> back
[01:41] <kbrooks> i will leave it on overnight
[01:41] <kbrooks> and see what happens
[01:42] <kbrooks> if it works, then i'll get a bug filed against the i810 driver related to that bug
[01:42] <kbrooks> bdmurray, what bug was i referring to from before? thanks
[01:43] <bdmurray> kbrooks: it was 110124
[01:43] <bdmurray> that have other steps to reproduce it too
[01:43] <kbrooks> bug #110124
[01:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 110124 in xorg "onboard intel gmx3000 goes to blank white screen in X" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/110124
[01:43] <bdmurray> by switching to a virtual console
[01:55] <Zelut> anyone have any suggestions on a good place to start tackling bugs?
[01:55] <Zelut> I'm searching there now and it seems a bit overwhelming
[01:57] <bdmurray> Zelut: do you a particular interest?
[01:59] <Zelut> bdmurray: I suppose things I could actually try to verify.. general usage or macbook related perhaps?
[02:01] <bdmurray> Are you running Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[02:01] <bdmurray> or Xubuntu
[02:01] <Zelut> Ubuntu, Feisty, Macbook C2D.
[02:03] <bdmurray> Really the best way to start is with an application you like or might like.
[02:04] <bdmurray> Something you use or want to learn more about.
[02:04] <Zelut> I have been reporting a lot more lately--any little thing I find--but I realize at that point I may just be adding to the pile of bugs
[02:04] <Zelut> *someone* has to actually fix them though :)
[02:05] <bdmurray> Zelut: reporting bugs about Gutsy is the best idea as it is in active development
[02:05] <persia> Zelut: If they are well written bugs, for real problems, more bugs are good :)
[02:07] <Zelut> I would *love* to report bugs for Gutsy but it is currently the only distro that won't install in kqemu
[02:07] <Zelut> ..which, of course, I reported
[02:08] <bdmurray> what bug was that?
[02:08] <Zelut> bug #120316
[02:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120316 in linux-source-2.6.22 "gutsy install cd (alternate) will not detect cdrom within qemu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120316
[02:08] <bdmurray> Zelut: gftp is a package with a managable number of bugs
[02:08] <bdmurray> a fair number of which are new
[02:09] <bdmurray> well or in a "new" state
[02:10] <Zelut> would a good idea, or good start, be to simply try to verify/duplicate bugs?
[02:11] <Zelut> I'm sure coming up with solutions is best, but is confirmation helpful or sometimes just more bug clutter?
[02:13] <bdmurray> I would look at the "New" bugs and see if they all haven enough information.  If not ask for more info.  If there is try to reproduce it in Feisty.  If it is reproducable confirm the bug and mention the version you used and clarify steps in necessary.  If it isn't reproducable and you are certain it isn't you could close it as being fixed in feisty.
[02:14] <bdmurray> Zelut: does that help some
[02:16] <Zelut> yeah.  I'm sure I'll start to get comfortable with it.. it just seems a bit overwhelming at first.
[02:16] <bdmurray> Yes, it can be.  I think gftp might be a reasonable place to start.
[02:17] <bdmurray> apport bugs are a special case and I saw some apport bugs there too
[02:17] <bdmurray> So if you want to hear about that too let me know.
[02:17] <Zelut> A couple of the teams I'm on subscribes me to a lot of bugs.  I remember seeing quite a few apport bugs go through recently.
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121820 in ubiquity (main) "Mythbuntu failed installation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121820
[02:26] <Zelut> bdmurray: is there a standard "your bug appears to be fixed.  I'm going to close it, please re-open if it happens again" type response?
[02:29] <bdmurray> !responses
[02:29] <ubotu> response is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses
[02:30] <bdmurray> Zelut: is #10 close to what you want?
[02:32] <Zelut> bdmurray: can I just s/Gutsy/Feisty? The original was Edgy, I can't duplicate in Feisty..
[02:33] <bdmurray> Yes, that would be appropriate.  Which bug was it?
[02:33] <Zelut> bug #69810
[02:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 69810 in Ubuntu "keyboard repeat doesn't work in edgy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/69810
[02:34] <bdmurray> persia: do you mean I tested this version# and it appears to be fixed in it?
[02:36] <Zelut> how would I find out what package provides an application? ie; currently installed, but I don't know where it came from.
[02:36] <persia> bdmurray: When I encounter bugs that are fixed, I usually just check the changelog to see if the bug was specifically reported as fixed in a recent upload, and report as fixed in that version.  If it's not specifically listed, I use the version with which I tested.  This is especially helpful for those bugs that only occur with specific hardware configurations, which may not be obvious from the initial description.
[02:37] <persia> Zelut: `which applicationname` will usually give you the binary, and `dpkg -S binary` will tell you the package name.  The easier way is to use the package name from the bug report.
[02:38] <Zelut> persia: thank you.  I was wondering the equivalent of 'yum whatprovides' :)
[02:40] <persia> bdmurray: bug 30970 is a good example of a bug that had a hardware dependency.  I don't have the hardware to confirm it's been fixed, but 1.4.1 is currently waiting to be built.
[02:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 30970 in Baltix "celestia-gnome ver. 1.3.2-2build1 always crashes" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/30970
[02:41] <bdmurray> persia: it is odd that you mention celestia
[02:41] <persia> bdmurray: Why?
[02:41] <bdmurray> kees and I were just looking at it
[02:43] <persia> Amusing that.  I was really the only bug I remembered with the hardware dependency.
[02:43] <persia> s/I/It/
[02:44] <bdmurray> we are going to give fixing it a go
[02:44] <bdmurray> well updating to 1.4.1 at least
[02:44] <persia> bdmurray: Best of luck.  I don't use it much, but it's pretty :)
[02:45] <bdmurray> persia: yeah, way pretty
[02:47] <Zelut> I don't see a 'closed' status in the bug dropdown.  What should I use if I'm closing a bug as old/fixed ?
[02:48] <Zelut> it didn't really have a fix released.. but the submitter solved it (user error mainly)
[02:50] <ScottK> Zelut: Probably invalid then.
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121823 in postfix (main) "Outdated option in relay entry for master.cf   " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121823
[03:27] <bdmurray> ScottK: ^
[03:28] <ScottK> bdmurray: I'll look.
[03:31] <ScottK> bdmurray: That was an easy one to triage.
[03:38] <nixternal> oi oi
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #121827 in nbd (main) "nbd-server can no longer be started from inetd" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121827
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #121831 in pavucontrol (universe) "Current gusty /usr/lib/libglademm-2.4.so.1 missing _ZN4Glib5Class21register_derived_typeEm" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121831
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #121832 in paprefs (universe) "Current gusty /usr/lib/libgconfmm-2.6.so.1 missing _ZN4Glib13wrap_registerEmPFPNS_10ObjectBaseEP8_GObjectE" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121832
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121834 in gcc-4.1 (main) "wrong package name (x86_64) when cross compiling make ftbfs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121834
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #121833 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "LCD backlight turns off when at idle or on battery." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121833
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121836 in deluge-torrent (universe) "deluge crashed with ImportError in find_class()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121836
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121837 in kdebase (main) "No automount for ntfs external drive using usb port" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121837
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #121838 in gparted (main) "ubuntu 7.0.4 apt-get installs very old version 0.2.5 of gparted" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121838
[10:03] <coNP> good morning
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #121839 in update-manager (main) "update-manager edgy to feisty: phpmyadmin" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121839
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #121840 in xsane (main) "xsane needs rebuild for newer libgimp2.0" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121840
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #121841 in adept (main) "Multiple langage packs after installing kubuntu from a live cd" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121841
[11:25] <ubotu> New bug: #121843 in gcc-4.2 (main) "file src/libstdc++-v3/config/linker-map.gnu has moved to src/libstd++-v3/config/abi/pre/gnu.ver, which cause FTBFS" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121843
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121845 in Ubuntu "CD ripping into a artist/album directory hierarchy is nearly impossible" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121845
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #121846 in mplayer (multiverse) "Joypad with analogue buttons breaks keyboard input" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121846
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #121847 in avahi (main) "ifup warnings on systems with multiple NIC" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121847
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #121848 in discover-data (main) "Attansic L1 Gibabit Ethernet controller has no kernel driver associated with it" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121848
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #121849 in Ubuntu "Directory is shared but konqueror still unable to find any workgroups " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121849
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #121850 in ubuntu-meta (main) "can't install ubuntu-desktop" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121850
[12:36] <ubotu> New bug: #121851 in ubiquity (main) "Mythbuntu.org 7.04-070603 i386 Installer crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121851
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #121852 in trashapplet (main) "trashapplet problem " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121852
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #121853 in rhythmbox (main) "Opening gparted causes Rhythmbox to stop playing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121853
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #121854 in xmms (main) "Please sync xmms (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121854
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #121855 in easytag (universe) "Please sync easytag (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121855
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #121857 in Ubuntu "No actualizo bien. " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121857
[01:26] <ubotu> New bug: #121858 in squeak-vm (multiverse) "Please upgrade to new upstream version 3.9" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121858
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #121860 in banshee (universe) "Transcoding to iPod always in aac if faac is installed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121860
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #121861 in adept (main) "adept crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121861
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #121862 in gnome-panel (main) "Error Java Applet Window" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121862
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #121863 in Ubuntu "No pudo instalar Ubuntu-desktop ni calcular actualizacion" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121863
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #121864 in gthumb (main) "Categories - Clicking on OK closes window. OK button should be APPLY" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121864
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121865 in gnome-mag (main) "Merge: gnome-mag 0.14.6-1ubuntu1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121865
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121866 in tomcat5.5 (universe) "add java-6-sun to the list of supported jvm" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121866
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121867 in wesnoth (universe) "Bug in gameplay/campaign" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121867
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121869 in vlc (universe) "VLC closes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121869
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #121870 in mod-mono (universe) "[Sync request]  Sync mod-mono (1.2.4-1) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121870
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #121872 in qt4-x11 (main) "*-qt4 tools should be present in $QTDIR/bin" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121872
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #121223 in gaim "Crash when moving buddy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121223
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #121871 in evince-gtk (main) "[gutsy]  evince-gtk depends on libgnome" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121871
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #121873 in wacom-tools (main) "ununtustudio: wacom-kernel-source cannot be installed through synaptic" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121873
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #121874 in gnome-vfs-obexftp (universe) "Please sync gnome-vfs-obexftp (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121874
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #121876 in network-manager (main) "Feature-request: Network-maneger-Openvpn through an HTTP proxy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121876
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #121877 in k3b (main) "K3b doesnt prompt the user to install kubuntu-restricted-extras for codecs" [High,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121877
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #121878 in synaptic (main) "synaptic package description translation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121878
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #121879 in apache2 (main) "libapache2-mod-ngobjweb installs, but apache fails to start" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121879
[04:17] <Arby> bit of advice needed, would it be reasonable to close bug 91343?
[04:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 91343 in adept "konqueror error with adept " [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91343
[04:17] <Arby> the traceback is incomplete and two requests for more information have been ignored
[04:18] <Hobbsee> Arby: kill it.
[04:18] <Arby> Hobbsee: thanks, bugs -1 :)
[04:18] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:22] <Arby> next one, should bug 92093 be 'won't fix' or 'wishlist'
[04:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 92093 in adept "Missing filters: repository Type, URL, Distribution and Components" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92093
[04:22] <Arby> or arguably 'fixed'
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #121880 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  Acceleo" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121880
[04:25] <Hobbsee> Arby: wishlisted
[04:25] <Arby> thanks again
[04:25] <Hobbsee> the adept guys can mark it WONTFIX from there, if they want
[04:25] <Hobbsee> no problem
[04:25] <Hobbsee> keep going :)
[04:25] <Arby> I'm here all week :)
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #121881 in slime (multiverse) "on compile slime causes kernel to run out of memory" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121881
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #121882 in Ubuntu "MonoDevelop locks up waiting for "futex" (or, My MonoDevelop Just Became a Really CPU-Intensive Clock)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121882
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121884 in gstreamer (universe) "Could not initialize GStreamer: Error re-scanning registry , child terminated by signal" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121884
[04:46] <Hobbsee> Arby: very cool
[04:47] <Arby> :)
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121886 in agave (universe) "Won't start, compains about  /usr/lib/libgconfmm-2.6.so.1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121886
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #121887 in gnome-app-install (main) "Icons not transparent in Add/Remove Programs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121887
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121888 in Ubuntu "Volume/Mute Controls Not Working with Intel 82801BA-ICH2 sound card" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121888
[05:29] <jrib> sean__: what folders
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121890 in update-manager (main) "update-manager cannot upgrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121890
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #121891 in Ubuntu "Power butten has no effect anymore" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121891
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121893 in knetworkmanager (main) "KNetworkManager stop working after 2 minutes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121893
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121894 in inkscape (main) "Inkscape polish translation lacking in kubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121894
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #121895 in knetworkmanager (main) "knetworkmanager systray right-click and left-click behaviors have swapped places" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121895
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #121896 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "terminate button does nothing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121896
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #121897 in knetworkmanager (main) "On resume, knetworkmanager tries to ifup eth0 without a link" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121897
[07:32] <pochu> slomo: new liferea 1.2.18, which fixes a lot of memory leaks, and some minor things. I've just removed libnspr4-dev from build-depends (we don't need it anymore, was added because a firefox change). It's at http://emilio.pozuelo.org/~deb/, if you can take a look :-)
[07:33] <pochu> slomo: btw, Debian doesn't have a new release since our last merge.
[07:35] <persia> pochu: Does that happen to fix the "liferea restores the windowed GUI if the panel applet is active and the panel is reloaded issue", or should I file a bug?
[07:36] <pochu> persia: sorry, windowed GUI?
[07:38] <pochu> But the changelog doesn't mention it, so probably not.
[07:38] <persia> pochu: Sorry: I haven't actually researched this enough to file a bug yet :)  Specifically, if liferea is open and active in the notification area, and the main window is closed, the main window is reopened when the panel is reloaded (or something like that - I need to build a proper testcase and description)
[07:39] <Arby> anybody got a minute to look at bug 103593
[07:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 103593 in adept "adept crash when downloading packages in feisty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103593
[07:39] <persia> Ah.  OK.  I'll file a bug when I have a useful description then.  The memory fixes along will be welcome :)
[07:39] <Arby> specifically what does '0xb7ec3a0e in pkgAcqArchive::Failed ()' mean?
[07:39] <Arby> dodgy network connection?
[07:40] <pochu> persia: I've experienced some times the panel crash, but liferea keeps iconified in the tray icon.
[07:40] <pochu> s/the/a/
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #121898 in Ubuntu "Installer Crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121898
[07:40] <persia> Arby: 0xb7ec3a0e is the address of the codepoint, in the function named "Failed()".
[07:41] <persia> pochu: Hrm.  Thanks: I'll make sure I can find a reliable reproduction prior to filing then.
[07:42] <pochu> persia: Ok, please do :)
[07:43] <Arby> persia: ah, OK. so would failure to Acquire archive (guessing) imply failed connection?
[07:43] <Arby> I'm just wondering because two users on that bug report dodgy wireless when it occurred
[07:44] <Arby> in which case we can't do much about it can we?
[07:45] <persia> Arby: This requires a look at the code.  We can't see the actual crash (#0 is missing), but that doesn't always mean we can't find the problem.  A retrace would be nice, but I'm not sure that works with this little information.
[07:46] <Arby> persia: OK thanks for helping me interpret, I can tag it for retrace and see what happens, might get lucky
[07:47] <Arby> no point me reading the code since it might as well be latin :)
[07:47] <persia> I'd recommend looking at pkgAcquire::Worker::RunMessages to try to determine under which conditions pkgAcqArchive::Failed would be called - this might point to the source of the issue which resulted in the crash.
[07:47] <Arby> bit beyond my understanding I'm afraid
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121900 in Ubuntu "Auto-mounted USB thumb drive only has user write permission if FAT16 or FAT32" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121900
[08:29] <slomo> pochu: will upload soon
[08:30] <pochu> slomo: cool :)
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #121901 in Ubuntu "No pudo instalar Ubuntu-desktop ni calcular actualizacion" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121901
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #121902 in Ubuntu "System won't halt" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121902
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #121903 in Ubuntu "Font quality is poor when resolution is set to 1280x1024" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121903
[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #121905 in ubiquity (main) "installation crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121905
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121906 in discover-data (main) "Gutsy Tribe 1 installer does not configure X to use ATI driver for ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon 8500 DV (R200 chipset)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121906
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121907 in courier (universe) "maildrop missing maildir path in authldaprc" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121907
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #121910 in dvdrip (multiverse) "should have Suggest: field for subtitleripper and vorbis-tools" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121910
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121909 in ubiquity (main) "Ubiquity is crashing once selected" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121909
[10:00] <ubotu> New bug: #121911 in gcc-4.2 (main) "gcc-4.2:  internal compiler error: in gen_tagged_type_instantiation_die, at dwarf2out.c:12762" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121911
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #121912 in sysvinit (main) "mount usbfs when USB is disabled or not present" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121912
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #121915 in bluez-utils (main) "pand in /etc/init.d/bluetooth fails with "Failed to connect to the local SDP server. Connection refused(111)" error. Solution included" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121915
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121914 in ubiquity (main) "mythbuntu installer crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121914
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #121917 in Ubuntu "Kubuntu should warn by extracting USB media without unmount first." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121917
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #121920 in yelp (main) "Mouse hung up" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121920
[11:30] <calc> crimsun: i applied to motu :)
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #121921 in ubiquity (main) "ubiquity crashes when first partition is set to  "dont use"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121921
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #121922 in Ubuntu "Applet error: unable to load library libn" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121922
[11:32] <crimsun> calc: just read -council mail
[11:32] <calc> crimsun: i'm not subbed so i just read a day behind, heh
[11:38] <calc> crimsun: just noticed i applied roughly in time to become a motu 7 years to the day after i became a DD, heh
[11:39] <pochu> calc: you might want to CC or ping your sponsors, since they might not be subscribed to that list.
[11:39] <pochu> So they can +1 you ;)
[11:45] <calc> pochu: yea i pinged them just a few minutes ago
[11:45] <calc> TheMuso: ping wrt the package you sponsored for me
[11:45] <calc> TheMuso: didn't know your email address
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #121923 in krb5 (main) "krb5-kdc: Depends: libkrb53 (= 1.4.3-5) but 1.4.3-5ubuntu0.3 is to be installed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121923
[11:46] <crimsun> calc: https://launchpad.net/~themuso
[11:47] <calc> ok
[11:47] <crimsun> left side, bottom box, Confirmed email addresses
[11:48] <calc> ok emailed him too
[11:48] <calc> how many
[11:48] <calc> +1's does someone need
[11:49] <pochu> calc: the more, the better :)
[11:49] <calc> ok
[11:50] <pochu> So how are those bugs going?
[11:50] <crimsun> calc: 3 are sufficient.
[11:50] <crimsun> calc: but those 3 come from MC members
[11:50] <calc> ok
[11:50] <crimsun> any combo of Daniel H., Andrew, Gauvain, Stefan, and myself
[11:51] <pochu> Oh, I was thinking about sponsors' +1
[11:51] <pochu> heh
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #121924 in libapt-pkg-perl (universe) "Please sync libapt-pkg-perl 0.1.21 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121924