[12:12] <bryce> hmm, he says he has an ia64 box
[12:12] <bryce> perhaps dmidecode is buggy on that architecture?
[12:15] <bryce> hmm, however this says dmidecode should work on ia64:  http://www.nongnu.org/dmidecode/
[12:17] <bryce> brian, if you'd like, you could forward the bug upstream here:  http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/dmidecode/
[12:25] <LaserJock> I sure hope a feature
[12:26] <Nafallo> me too :-)
[12:45] <brylie> how do I 'create a release' on a launchpad project I started? I have a .py file to upload. I'm having trouble getting a response in #launchpad.
[12:46] <LaserJock> brylie: if #launchpad is slow you might try emailing the launchpad-users mailing list
[12:46] <brylie> no, I'm slow
[12:47] <brylie> I'm just new to launchpad
[12:47] <brylie> Just need to register a series is what I was informed.
[01:10] <wasabi> Um. The new /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/$ifname/ stuff.
[01:11] <wasabi> Do we have any proper way to set that for interfaces? Since they appear and come from hotswap.
[01:11] <wasabi> sysctl -p running during boot isn't going to catch them.
[01:17] <geser> doesn't default or all cover them?
[01:20] <geser> doesn't default or all cover them?
[02:08] <superm1> Hi everyone, any archive admins about right now?
[02:09] <Mithrandir> superm1: maybe. :-P
[02:10] <superm1> Hi Mithrandir :).  I just wanted to poke about libhdhomerun.  It's been sitting in NEW since 06-01, and there have been several NEW source packages uploaded and approved after it.  Were there complications with it?
[02:12] <Mithrandir> unsure; probably not
[02:13] <Mithrandir> I've been on vacation for the last two weeks so I'm hardly on top of stuff
[02:13] <superm1> ah
[02:15] <geser> how is/was debconf?
[02:15] <Mithrandir> good
[02:15] <Mithrandir> still good
[02:19] <superm1> Mithrandir, would you have a few moments to ack/look at that source package to get it moving along the path?
[02:19] <Mithrandir> superm1: not now; it's half past one in the morning and my brain is knackered, sorry.
[02:20] <Mithrandir> ask me on monday?
[02:20] <superm1> Mithrandir, sure.  What time are you on then, UTC?
[02:20] <Mithrandir> UTC+2
[02:20] <superm1> Ok. i'll get you at some point in the middle of the day Monday then.  have a good weekend :)
[04:11] <SlimG2> Anyone know what font is beeing used for the "ubuntu" string top-left at http://ubuntu.com ?
[04:15] <Fujitsu> SlimG2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTitle
[04:16] <SlimG2> Fujitsu: Is that the same as the one in the ttf-ubuntu-title package?
[04:21] <Fujitsu> SlimG2: It is.
[04:25] <SlimG2> Fujitsu: thanks alot for your help!
[04:33] <Fujitsu> SlimG2: No problem.
[04:35] <Hobbsee> morning all
[04:36] <calc> Hobbsee: good morning
[04:36] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:37] <LaserJock> hola Ms. Hobbs
[04:38] <nixternal> hey, quit using my hola!
[04:40] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: :)
[04:40] <Hobbsee> !nixternal | nixternal 
[04:40] <ubotu> nixternal: Oh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too!
[04:41] <nixternal> free money!!!
[04:42] <LaserJock> nixternal: dude, I'm in NEVADA, I get hola ;-)
[04:43] <LaserJock> nixternal: you get sup, or some mob greeting
[04:43] <nixternal> hahaha
[04:43] <nixternal> wassa matta
[04:44] <ScottK> Good morning Hobbsee.
[04:44] <Hobbsee> morning ScottK 
[04:44] <ScottK> MIR for pinentry-qt is filed...
[04:44] <Hobbsee> woo!
[04:46] <ScottK> Hobbsee: I'm still trying to figure a non-insane way to modify gpg.conf for kmail users to use-agent....
[04:46] <Hobbsee> ScottK: good luck with that
[04:46] <ScottK> :-(
[04:46] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:50] <sbalneav> The update that went in a few days ago to nbd-server has completely and utterly broken it.  It now no longer can be started from inetd.
[04:55] <ajmitch> sbalneav: bug filed?
[04:57] <sbalneav> ajmitch: gonna file one.
[04:57] <sbalneav> Far as I can see, the entire section that does inetd starting's been #if 0'd out.
[04:58] <sbalneav> oh, pain.
[08:11] <Lucifer_stunn> hi u r not mad r u?
[08:11] <Lucifer_stunn> i cnvtd from ubuntu to debian cuz the nekkid ppl mantra p|$$ed me oFF
[08:12] <Lucifer_stunn> but uzed ur ubuntu installer-n-repos todoso
[08:12] <Lucifer_stunn> i just don't like all the M$/C#/Java bologna if that's ok...nvidia.ko is ok imho...
[08:13] <Lucifer_stunn> cuz they are american...
[08:14] <tarzeau> Lucifer_stunn: converted? using www.linuks.mine.nu/ubuntu/uncurse or manual reinstallation or debootstrapping?
[08:14] <Lucifer_stunn> huh?
[08:14] <Lucifer_stunn> pls dun ban me
[08:14] <tarzeau> i was just curious about your conversion (i've got debian too :)
[08:15] <tarzeau> as long as you don't be off-topic here, nobody's gonna ban you
[08:15] <Lucifer_stunn> ubuntu is great, dun git me rung, but i can't take the nekkit ppk and allof the proprietary softwares u support
[08:15] <tarzeau> (i guess) 
[08:16] <tarzeau> Lucifer_stunn: it's nice you want completely free software. but some nvidia cards can't be run with the nv driver only
[08:16] <Lucifer_stunn> all of the java/c#/ms support i dun agree wit.
[08:16] <tarzeau> Lucifer_stunn: nobody forces you to use it?
[08:16] <Lucifer_stunn> ur repos r good for newbie but been using linux since rh4.2 so...
[08:17] <Lucifer_stunn> i juz dun like all the nekkid ppl advertisment and not being NYSE compliant.
[08:17] <Lucifer_stunn> in ur trading.
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> Canonical isn't a publicly traded company.
[08:18] <Burgundavia> Lucifer_stunn: this channel is for discussion of Ubuntu development only
[08:19] <Lucifer_stunn>  i have no authoriti w/Canonical but used to invest in redhat and frustrated can't invest in Canonical Inc so my repos switched to Debian cuz meh family can't invest in Canonical so sry
[08:20] <Lucifer_stunn> we are Roman Catholic investors from German Republic and we do not support 'private firms' sry
[08:20] <ion_> Sounds more like Troll Republic. :-)
[08:20] <Lucifer_stunn> ok.  bye.
[08:21] <ajmitch> took long enough
[08:22] <Amaranth> hahahahahaha
[08:22] <Amaranth> I can buy stock in Debian?
[08:22] <ion_> Yeah, i can give you my account number.
[08:23] <superm1> Amaranth, actually there is this new process.  You give us your account number, name, first dog, mom's maiden name, US SS # and we'll buy the stock for you :)
[08:24] <Amaranth> superm1: awesome, i'm in!
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> BenC: Question for you, general topic is whether Keyspan Serial-USB converter driver modules (in vanilla kernel, not allowed in Debian due to licensing somehow) might be includable in linux-restricted.  I'll be around after 01:00 UTC I expect tomorrow.
[11:29] <Mithrandir> doko: have you uploaded a gcc with lpia support yet?
[11:29] <doko> Mithrandir: not yet
[11:29] <doko> Mithrandir: are the optimization settings finalized?
[11:30] <Mithrandir> TBH, I care less about that than being able to start bootstrapping
[11:30] <Mithrandir> you have a set of optimisation flags, don't you?
[11:33] <Kmos> doko: update dbus-python from debian unstable
[11:35] <doko> Mithrandir: yes, let me resend my email today, and make the upload on Monday
[11:36] <Mithrandir> thanks
[11:37] <Kmos> broadcom has some package specific ?
[11:38] <Kmos> or just kernel
[01:47] <pygi> hya Hobbsee 
[01:48] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:48] <pygi> ^_^
[01:49] <pygi> Hobbsee, I think we can clear some k3b bugs by replacing wodim by cdrskin, but not sure if you'd be happy with that by default?
[01:49] <Hobbsee> pygi: cool.   no idea.  
[01:49] <pygi> Hobbsee, and yes, yes, I know you're not in charge of that, but still :P I can bug you :)
[01:50] <Hobbsee> pygi: apperas to be in universe
[01:50] <pygi> Hobbsee, uh, uh, yes
[01:51] <pygi> for now :p
[01:51] <Hobbsee> yeah
[01:52] <Hobbsee> pygi: without knowing the codebase, i cant say definetly - but in the general case, it's smart to use the best piece of software for the job.
[01:52] <pygi> Hobbsee, I know entire codebase :)
[01:53] <pygi> I'd rather hack-in optional support/search for cdrskin in k3b
[01:53] <pygi> it could be done with a pretty simple patch IMHO
[01:53] <Hobbsee> pygi: seaLne's still at debconf
[01:53] <Hobbsee> pygi: right.
[01:53] <Hobbsee> pygi: i'd run it past him - but the idea sounds sane, at least in theory
[01:54] <pygi> Hobbsee, perhaps it's better to hack in optional support for now. We can't pull cdrskin in main just yet
[01:54] <pygi> (I don't want to do it just yet)
[01:54] <Hobbsee> pygi: why?
[01:55] <pygi> Hobbsee, because cdrskin is fine for almost all common operations and even better with dvd burning then wodim (much better!) but it may fail (i.e. not supported) on some exotic burn operations
[01:55] <Hobbsee> pygi: ahh
[01:56] <TheMuso> Wouldn't dvd+rw-tools be better for DVD?
[01:56] <pygi> TheMuso, dvd+rw tools are used for DVD afaik
[01:56] <pygi> just stating the situation ^_^
[01:56] <TheMuso> I know that.
[01:56] <TheMuso> But isn' tthe idea to use the best tool for the job?
[01:57] <TheMuso> Sorry, am not really following.
[01:57] <TheMuso> Just saw DVD mentioned
[01:57] <pygi> mhmh
[01:57] <pygi> weird
[01:57] <pygi> :P
[01:57] <Hobbsee> there.
[01:58] <pygi> mhm, we still have breezy bugs open for k3b
[02:00] <pygi> Hobbsee, you've got some time?
[02:00] <pygi> Help me close bugs :)
[02:01] <Hobbsee> oh neat.  thye can be rejected
[02:01] <Hobbsee> er, i have time somehwat, yes.
[02:02] <pygi> Hobbsee, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/
[02:03] <pygi> Hobbsee, I take those bugs in color, you take those without color
[02:03] <pygi> ok? :)
[02:03] <mr_pouit> Hobbsee: are you working on ubuntu-restricted-extras, or can I upload a new version to add xubuntu binaries?
[02:03] <pygi> ask for information, close, reject, prioritize :)
[02:03] <Hobbsee> mr_pouit: go ahead and add to it
[02:03] <mr_pouit> ok, thanks
[02:04] <pygi> Hobbsee, you ok with that? ^_^
[02:04] <Hobbsee> pygi: i'm Ok with you doing it, certainly
[02:04] <Hobbsee> but i do want to eat my dinner while ti's still hot
[02:04] <pygi> Hobbsee, :P
[02:04] <pygi> k, bon appetit
[02:05] <geser> the auto-syncing is stopped, right?
[02:05] <Hobbsee> bug_close++
[02:06] <Hobbsee> geser: unsure
[02:06] <pygi> Hobbsee, right, a lot of outdated bugs
[02:06] <pygi> going through them now
[02:06] <pygi> (my part ^_^)
[02:06] <Hobbsee> cool
[02:07] <TheMuso> According to GutsyReleaseSchedule it is off yes
[02:07] <Mithrandir> geser: it's no longer run, yes.  It's not autosync, it's a byhand job
[02:10] <geser> Mithrandir: perhaps I was a bit imprecise: what I meant is that that packages were regularly synced from Debian.
[02:10] <Hobbsee> Mithrandir!
[02:10] <geser> and now I've to file sync requests to get a package synced again
[02:11] <pygi> Hobbsee, nice, we'll get rid of a lot of bugs
[02:11] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee!
[02:11] <Hobbsee> pygi: cool :)
[02:13] <pygi> Hobbsee, if I don't get responses to info requests in two weeks, I'll close most of the bugs
[02:13] <pygi> they are like 1 year old
[02:13] <Hobbsee> cool
[02:14] <geser> Hobbsee: will you be then archive-admin and buildd-admin?
[02:14] <Hobbsee> geser: i wish.
[02:14] <Hobbsee> but alas, no.
[02:14] <Hobbsee> pygi: yay, 5 gone.
[02:15] <pygi> Hobbsee, yup, and closing more
[02:15] <Hobbsee> :D
[02:15] <geser> Hobbsee: then please don't it him, we need him :)
[02:15] <Hobbsee> awww
[02:16] <pygi> geser, she took that from me!
[02:16] <pygi> she can't eat people around!
[02:16] <Hobbsee> no fun.
[02:17] <pygi> Hobbsee, some fixes are trivial, after I get responses, I'll have a couple of patches to create
[02:18] <Hobbsee> pygi: cool
[02:18] <Hobbsee> very cool
[02:18] <pygi> ha, yellow bugs almost down =)
[02:18] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:19] <Hobbsee> anyway, i'm done.  grey is a colour.
[02:20] <pygi> Hobbsee, k, thanks
[02:20] <Hobbsee> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/118274 is closable, imo
[02:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118274 in k3b "libk3b2-mp3 package not well described" [Undecided,New]  
[02:21] <Hobbsee> seeing as kubuntu-restricted-extras exist
[02:21] <pygi> Hobbsee, mark as "wishlist" pls: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/58767
[02:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 58767 in k3b "k3b: On verify of CD burn, do not open "What do you want to do?" dialog" [Medium,New]  
[02:22] <pygi> Hobbsee, bug 118274 can be resolved as invalid (that one is yours)
[02:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118274 in k3b "libk3b2-mp3 package not well described" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118274
[02:24] <Hobbsee> pygi: done x2
[02:24] <pygi> Hobbsee, thanks
[02:24] <Hobbsee> no problem
[02:24] <Hobbsee> i thought you had -qa now
[02:24] <pygi> Hobbsee, I had it!
[02:24] <pygi> then I revoked my rights, and now ...
[02:24] <pygi> oh well :P
[02:24] <pygi> (but that was like year and a half ago :P)
[02:24] <Hobbsee> why'd you revoke your rights?
[02:25] <pygi> because I even revoked my ubuntu-member status?
[02:25] <Hobbsee> ahh
[02:25] <Hobbsee> carzy person
[02:25] <pygi> thank you, thank you :)
[02:27] <pygi> Hobbsee, If you have any doubts, do poke ^_^
[02:27] <Hobbsee> pygi: doubts about what?
[02:27] <pygi> Hobbsee, no idea. about how bug should be resolved
[02:27] <pygi> or something :P
[02:28] <pygi> yay, yellow and orange bugs are down
[02:28] <pygi> time for the blue ones
[02:28] <pygi> hm, that's a wishlist
[02:29] <pygi> I'll start the grey ones as well then
[02:29] <pygi> Hobbsee, did you start from bottom or from up?
[02:29] <pygi> top*
[02:29] <Hobbsee> pygi: i picked the likely-packaging-error bugs
[02:30] <pygi> Hobbsee, oh, k, I'll just go around and look
[02:35] <pygi> k, LP is slow!
[02:35] <Hobbsee> haha
[02:36] <Hobbsee> define "slow"
[02:36] <pygi> very slow!
[02:36] <pygi> I can't post a comment
[02:36] <sladen> it could be b0rken
[02:36] <Hobbsee> again
[02:40] <Hobbsee> sladen: how's the roaming life?
[02:42] <pygi> Hobbsee, we'll get entire k3b sorted today! :P
[02:42] <pygi> and a lot of mails yay :-D
[02:42] <sladen> Hobbsee: need to hop on a Eurostar in 4hours to do London->Brussels->Hamburg->Copenhagen->Stockholm->Helsinki for work on Monday morning :)
[02:42] <Hobbsee> sladen: erk!  good luck with that!
[02:43] <Hobbsee> it must be cool, to be able to, though
[02:43] <Hobbsee> hiya PriceChild 
[02:43] <pygi> somebody explain me this bug pls: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/115615
[02:43] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115615 in k3b "probleme avec lancement de k3b sous gnome" [Undecided,New]  
[02:43] <pygi> (and yes, I can read what it says)
[02:43] <pygi> hey PriceChild 
[02:44] <PriceChild> :)
[02:44] <PriceChild> hey pygi 
[02:45] <stgraber> pygi: want a translator ? :)
[02:46] <pygi> stgraber, I do understand what it says, but meh, it's weird
[02:46] <pygi> stgraber, but if you can do it better then me, why not ^_^
[02:46] <stgraber> indeed
[02:46] <pygi> stgraber, just reject? xD
[02:46] <stgraber> Is k3b supposed to be run from root ?
[02:47] <pygi> stgraber, afaik no
[02:47] <pygi> Hobbsee, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/114224 --> wishlist pls
[02:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 114224 in k3b "Burn additional CDs with k3b" [Undecided,New]  
[02:47] <stgraber> in this bug report it's
[02:47] <Hobbsee> stgraber: it gives you a warning either way
[02:48] <ion_> /usr/bin/iceauth: creating new authority file /root/.ICEauthority Is he running k3b as root?
[02:48] <stgraber> ion_: I think so
[02:48] <pygi> ion_, seems like
[02:48] <ion_> Ah, im being blind again.
[02:48] <ion_> It was already mentioned. :-)
[02:48] <pygi> Hobbsee, do tell when you marked it as a wishlist
[02:48] <Hobbsee> pygi: done
[02:48] <pygi> Hobbsee, thanks
[02:48] <pygi> Hobbsee, sorry for bugging too much, but meh
[02:48] <pygi> it's for a good cause :0
[02:48] <pygi> :)
[02:48] <Hobbsee> pygi: it's fine :)
[02:49] <stgraber> pygi: I think you can reject it as : the user should report in english not french and k3b isn't supposed to be run from root
[02:49] <pygi> stgraber, I once responded in spanish to a user :P
[02:49] <stgraber> pygi: :)
[02:49] <pygi> stgraber, do go ahead, and do so
[02:50] <pygi> I won't eat you, you know :p
[02:50] <stgraber> k :)
[02:50] <pygi> Hobbsee, this one if your field: packaging stuff - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/112342
[02:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 112342 in k3b "Error ripping audio cd to mp3" [Undecided,New]  
[02:50] <pygi> so I'm skipping it
[02:51] <pygi> it's also a licence problem, so mind explaining it to him? :)
[02:53] <pygi> Hobbsee, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/109968 --> set as wishlist
[02:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 109968 in k3b "K3b shows an inexact information if MP3 plugin not installed" [Undecided,Confirmed]  
[02:53] <Hobbsee> pygi: when you're coding, can you change the suggests libk3b2-mp3 to kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[02:54] <stgraber> pygi: -> invalid and left a comment in both french/english (in case he doesn't understand any single english word :))
[02:54] <pygi> Hobbsee, you mean change package dependencies? Sure
[02:54] <Hobbsee> pygi: thanks
[02:54] <Hobbsee> in fact, that's a wontfix.
[02:54] <pygi> Hobbsee, right
[02:55] <Hobbsee> pygi: are you up for coding a thing where k3b realises it needs more codecs, and grabs k-r-e?
[02:55] <pygi> Hobbsee, I wanted to change a way in what it reports. Just wanted to make it show that you need "a, b, and c packages"
[02:55] <pygi> or just that one actually
[02:56] <pygi> k-r-e
[02:56] <Hobbsee> pygi: you can just use a "enable multiverse, adn install k-r-e"
[02:56] <pygi> Hobbsee, yup, that might work
[02:56] <Hobbsee> like the common customisation specs
[02:56] <pygi> Hobbsee, so assign to me if you want
[02:57] <Hobbsee> pygi: do you want a separate bug on it?
[02:57] <pygi> Hobbsee, if you prefer
[02:57] <Hobbsee> pygi: as that one's listed as wontfix now
[02:57] <Hobbsee> makes no difference to me
[02:57] <pygi> Hobbsee, I'll talk with mvo. Perhaps we can make it auto-pull k-r-e if needed
[02:57] <pygi> Hobbsee, just open a new one then
[02:57] <Hobbsee> ok
[02:57] <pygi> but ergh, we can't auto-enable multiverse
[02:57] <pygi> that's evil
[02:57] <pygi> oh well, a note will do :P
[02:58] <pygi> bug 109095 should go wishlist
[02:58] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 109095 in k3b "k3b should fork on verify" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/109095
[02:59] <pygi> meh, so many bugs triaged today
[02:59] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:59] <Hobbsee> pygi: i thought you could
[02:59] <Hobbsee> pygi: besides, you can say "do you want to?"
[02:59] <Hobbsee> actually, i think we do enable universe now
[02:59] <Hobbsee> and maybe multiverse too
[02:59] <pygi> Hobbsee, universe we do. But don't think we enable multiverse
[02:59] <Hobbsee> ah
[03:01] <pygi> I hate apport, so bug #104195 is yours :)
[03:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 104195 in k3b "[apport]  k3b crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104195
[03:01] <Hobbsee> pygi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/k3b/+bug/121877
[03:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121877 in k3b "K3b doesnt prompt the user to install kubuntu-restricted-extras for codecs" [High,Triaged]  
[03:02] <Hobbsee> pygi: i've NFI what to do with apport bugs
[03:02] <pygi> Hobbsee, hahah, then we'll skip :) Thanks for 121877, I'll look at it
[03:03] <Hobbsee> pygi: that BT looks useless
[03:03] <pygi> as always :p
[03:03] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure that apport actually works with kde stuff
[03:03] <pygi> mhmh, but I can never get anything out of apport bugs :(
[03:03] <Hobbsee> neither
[03:04] <Hobbsee> but i can see by the lack of info, that it's useless
[03:04] <Hobbsee> right, marked as invalid
[03:04] <pygi> I've got two on brasero, and can't draw anything usefull from them :)
[03:04] <pygi> Hobbsee, great =)
[03:04] <Hobbsee> pygi: tentatively milestoned that k-r-e bug as tribe 3.
[03:04] <pygi> Hobbsee, haha, when is tribe 3?
[03:04] <Hobbsee> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
[03:04] <Hobbsee> 19 july
[03:04] <pygi> it'll work, sure
[03:04] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:05] <pygi> but that's evil ... without even asking :P
[03:05] <pygi> Hobbsee, can we get 1.0.1 in feisty-updates?
[03:06] <pygi> I'd need that as we'd fix a lot of bugs
[03:06] <Hobbsee> pygi: backports, likely.  not updates
[03:06] <pygi> Hobbsee, kk, then jdong it is ^_^
[03:07] <pygi> Hobbsee, lol, look : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/99973
[03:08] <pygi> :p
[03:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 99973 in k3b "spelling error "savely"" [Undecided,New]  
[03:08] <pygi> shall I fix that with newest upload? :P
[03:08] <Hobbsee> pygi: i saw that.  heh.  yes, and file it upstream, i guess
[03:08] <pygi> (if it isn't fixed in 1.0.1 ? :P)
[03:08] <pygi> Hobbsee, k, I mark to myself, you file upstream and add upstream bug tracker
[03:08] <Hobbsee> k
[03:10] <Riddell> Hobbsee: c++ kde apps already have a crash handler
[03:12] <Riddell> djdyjchmkfd
[03:12] <Riddell> cghxmkrsekmcbbm 
[03:12] <Riddell>  gcsdkrwe  n#
[03:12] <pygi> Hobbsee, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/104799 --> add upstream bug watcher (I have no idea how :P)
[03:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 104799 in k3b "k3b copies DVD+RW to itself without any questions" [Undecided,Confirmed]  
[03:13] <pygi> there's a upstream bug mentioned in the report
[03:13] <pygi> Riddell, see? You'll have a nice k3b for gutsy ^_^
[03:14] <pygi> Hobbsee, yay, we're almost done
[03:14] <Hobbsee> pygi: launchpad confuses me there.  i've no idea WTF series release means
[03:14] <pygi> Hobbsee, :P
[03:15] <pygi> Hobbsee, probably 0.6.x and such stuff
[03:16] <Hobbsee> it seems to cope with kdemultimedia/main
[03:17] <pygi> Hobbsee, please milestone bug 69684 for me
[03:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 69684 in k3b "gnome-app-install does not install i18n packages" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/69684
[03:17] <Hobbsee> i'm assuming one has to add the k3b project in and whatnot
[03:17] <Hobbsee> pygi: to what tribe/
[03:17] <pygi> Hobbsee, tribe 3
[03:17] <Hobbsee> consider it done
[03:17] <pygi> thanks
[03:18] <Hobbsee> pygi: installing all the translations by default will suck though
[03:18] <Hobbsee> suggests may be more appropriate
[03:19] <Hobbsee> Riddell: right
[03:19] <pygi> Hobbsee, it is already suggests
[03:19] <Hobbsee> Riddell: and wake up
[03:19] <pygi> but that's kind of bad because other users feel left-out
[03:19] <Hobbsee> pygi: installing every translation for k3b, for everyone...isnt...fun.
[03:19] <pygi> Hobbsee, what about splitting translations?
[03:19] <Hobbsee> no idea.  i dont do translation stuff
[03:19] <pygi> Hobbsee, mhmh ... what to do then?
[03:19] <pygi> just leave as is?
[03:20] <pygi> and mark bug as invalid?
[03:20] <Hobbsee> ask relevant people their opinions
[03:20] <pygi> Hobbsee, ok, will do. remove the tribe for now then. also look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/83155, and test that
[03:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 83155 in k3b "cd automount stops working after k3b" [Undecided,New]  
[03:20] <pygi> confirm if you can
[03:20] <pygi> Hobbsee, pitti might be the one to ask
[03:21] <Hobbsee> pygi: i can always decline the tribe later.
[03:21] <pygi> Hobbsee, kk
[03:21] <Hobbsee> pygi: it's probably safer to leave it - as then i can poke you later, if you havent alreayd found out
[03:21] <pygi> Hobbsee, understood ^^_
[03:21] <Hobbsee> pygi: all the kde bugs that are milestoned default to me for poking
[03:21] <pygi> ^_^
[03:21] <pygi> as long as we fix stuff I'm happy
[03:22] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:22] <pygi> Hobbsee, do look at that 83155 bug pls
[03:22] <pygi> I think we got one duplicate even, so ...
[03:22] <Hobbsee> pygi: have no DVD to burn.  looks strange, though
[03:22] <pygi> if you can confirm this one, do find the another one and confirm it as well :P
[03:22] <pygi> I can borrow you some? I have like 250 pieces around :p
[03:23] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:23] <pygi> Hobbsee, I'll put myself as bug contact for k3b
[03:24] <pygi> that subscribtion or whatever 
[03:24] <Hobbsee> pygi: if you've got a list of bugs that you'd like to see tested, i can poke relevant mailing lists and such about testing them
[03:24] <pygi> (ignore the spelling :P)
[03:24] <Hobbsee> pygi: yep, right, cool
[03:24] <pygi> Hobbsee, sure I've got a list :) You can get it this week
[03:24] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:24] <Hobbsee> send it to me, would be cool :)
[03:24] <pygi> (or a bit later, 4 exams this week :P)
[03:24] <pygi> Hobbsee, will do, thanks :)
[03:24] <Hobbsee> yeah, exams are nasty.  i willd rop off the planet in a couple of days, for a bit
[03:25] <pygi> hehe :)
[03:25] <pygi> Hobbsee, did you file that typo stuff upstream?
[03:25] <Hobbsee> pygi: was already fixed upstream
[03:25] <pygi> Hobbsee, oh, in 1.0.1?
[03:26] <pygi> Hobbsee, then could you close the bug pls? 
[03:26] <pygi> I'm almost done with everything
[03:26] <Hobbsee> pygi: already done so
[03:27] <pygi> thanks
[03:29] <pygi> Hobbsee, remind me that in two weeks we'll close 80% of those bugs
[03:29] <Hobbsee> pygi: woo :)
[03:29] <pygi> we must close*
[03:30] <Hobbsee> pygi: sounds very good to me
[03:31] <pygi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/
[03:31] <pygi> only handful of "new" bugs which I have no idea right now what do to with
[03:31] <pygi> a lot of bugs can be fixed, or auto-closed soon
[03:32] <pygi> Hobbsee, thanks for your help ;)
[03:34] <Hobbsee> pygi: marked a couple as fixed,or incomplete
[03:34] <Hobbsee> pygi: no problem - tahnsk for yours :)
[03:34] <pygi> Hobbsee, k, great ^^
[03:35] <pygi> Hobbsee, do you have any more packages we need cleaned up for tribe3?
[03:35] <Hobbsee> pygi: anything in kde, really...
[03:35] <Hobbsee> pygi: so much of it needs to be filed upstream, etc.
[03:36] <pygi> Hobbsee, see, this I hate: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brasero/+bug/105425
[03:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 105425 in brasero "[apport]  brasero crashed with SIGSEGV in g_str_hash()" [Undecided,Confirmed]  
[03:36] <pygi> apport again :P
[03:36] <Hobbsee> pygi: actually, anything with bugs in it
[03:36] <Hobbsee> haha
[03:36] <pygi> and how am I supposed to fix that xD
[03:37] <Hobbsee> pygi: you're not.  it's reported upstream, and linked, so you wait
[03:37] <Hobbsee> pygi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/91181 looks like the person not in the correct group - whatever that is
[03:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 91181 in k3b "k3b wrong permissions" [Undecided,New]  
[03:38] <pygi> you mean upstream is supposed to learn apport language?
[03:38] <pygi> Hobbsee, I'll look now
[03:38] <pygi> Hobbsee, k, commented, thanks :)
[03:39] <Hobbsee> pygi: the backtrace?  yes.
[03:39] <Hobbsee> pygi: apport, from what i understand, is only "collect the backtrace, adn retrace it in the data center"
[03:39] <Hobbsee> (and attach that)
[03:39] <pygi> perhaps, but it's still mmhm ..
[03:39] <pygi> confusing :p
[03:39] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:39] <pygi> amarok has a number of critical bugs :-/
[03:40] <Hobbsee> backtraces are
[03:40] <Hobbsee> true that.  upstream knows about them
[03:40] <Hobbsee> they helped go thru them
[03:40] <pygi> yup, I know upstream knows
[03:40] <pygi> just read a handful of them
[03:40] <Hobbsee> and are now getting bugmail, etc, as we run vanilla amarok + the install mp3 script
[03:40] <pygi> got it
[03:40] <Hobbsee> of course, they probably do want help upstream.  *shrugs*
[03:40] <pygi> but the install mp3 script is still buggy :P
[03:41] <pygi> bug #58167
[03:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 58167 in ubiquity "Installer crashed at around 83% of the installation status inspector (dup-of: 47687)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/58167
[03:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 47687 in ubiquity "crash installing in Chinese with non-Chinese country" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/47687
[03:41] <pygi> ups
[03:41] <pygi> bug 58617
[03:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 58617 in amarok "mp3 installation script crashes and/or hangs" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/58617
[03:41] <pygi> wrong order of numbers
[03:42] <pygi> if I knew more about amarok codebase, we'd sort out that today as wel
[03:42] <pygi> well*
[03:42] <Hobbsee> pygi: now if you want to fix that....i think someone in #kubuntu-devel was looking, but i never heard the result
[03:42] <Hobbsee> i'm tempted to get it rewritten in python, so more people are willing to touch it, and fix it's bugs
[03:42] <pygi> Hobbsee, what's it written now in?
[03:42] <Hobbsee> pygi: bash
[03:42] <pygi> uh, uh
[03:43] <Hobbsee> yeah
[03:43] <pygi> Hobbsee, python would make it better
[03:43] <Hobbsee> pygi: indeed.
[03:43] <mhb> Hobbsee: what does the script do actually?
[03:43] <pygi> hm, we can't do this for tribe3, but Hobbsee, if you're up for some pair hacking after that ....
[03:43] <pygi> let's work on it
[03:43] <pygi> gobby does magic ^_^
[03:43] <Hobbsee> mhb: installs libxine-ffmpeg, basically
[03:44] <Hobbsee> pygi: i dont grok python much, sorry :(
[03:44] <Hobbsee> as in, i can read some of it, or at least understand what's going on, but i cant write it myself.
[03:44] <pygi> Hobbsee, well, you'll learn ^_^
[03:44] <Hobbsee> i really should learn to code - but i find it quite dry, so havent put in the effort to do so.
[03:44] <pygi> Hobbsee, I helped pete learn, can help you as well ^_^
[03:44] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:44] <Hobbsee> that'd be cool
[03:44] <pygi> and see all the cool stuff he's working on now ^_^
[03:44] <pygi> aka cbx33 :P
[03:45] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:45] <pygi> oh well ^_^
[03:45] <pygi> be back in like 3 minutes or so, gotta make some lemonade
[03:45] <pygi> it's very hot
[03:45] <pygi> hey abattoir_ :P
[03:45] <Hobbsee> have fun.  freezing here
[03:45] <Hobbsee> hey abattoir 
[03:49] <mhb> Hobbsee: does that script run adept_batch?
[03:49] <Hobbsee> mhb: yeah
[03:50] <Hobbsee> or synaptic install thing, or apt-get, if neither are installed
[03:51] <StevenK> If all it's doing is installing libxine-ffmpeg, I don't see why bash is a bad thing.
[03:51] <pygi> Hobbsee, what's the temperature at your place?
[03:51] <StevenK> pygi: ~ 11 degrees
[03:51] <Hobbsee> pygi: probably around 10C
[03:51] <pygi> k, that's low
[03:51] <pygi> 36C here
[03:51] <StevenK> Send it here!
[03:52] <mhb> Hobbsee: me neither
[03:52] <StevenK> mhb: You mean me? :-)
[03:52] <Hobbsee> yes, send it here!
[03:52] <pygi> Hobbsee, 72 bug mails!!!
[03:52] <Hobbsee> pygi: haha
[03:52] <Hobbsee> pygi: minor
[03:53] <mhb> StevenK: it's not you who wanted to rewrite that in python, so ... no. :o)
[03:53] <pygi> select all --> mark as read
[03:53] <abattoir_>  hi pygi, Hobbsee, mhb :)
[03:53] <mhb> hi abattoir_ 
[03:54] <Hobbsee> poor Fujitsu 
[03:54] <Fujitsu> My room is likely a couple of degrees above that, fortunately.
[03:55] <pygi> lemonade rocks :P
[03:55] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:55] <geser> Fujitsu: you need more computers :p
[03:56] <Fujitsu> geser: Heh, my poor laptop doesn't do much :(
[03:56] <Fujitsu> The server room at school is nice and toasty though!
[03:56] <Fujitsu> 6x single Xeon servers, and a dual-Xeon, and an AMD X2, in a small room. Very hot.
[03:57] <Hobbsee> yummy
[03:57] <StevenK> No air conditioning?
[03:57] <Fujitsu> Air-con on when it's 5 degrees outside is a little strange.
[03:57] <Fujitsu> We convinced the administration we needed it a few months ago, but it took 2.5 years.
[03:57] <StevenK> Our server room is regulated at 20 degrees with roughly 20 servers.
[03:58] <Fujitsu> Nice. Ours is this great 60-year-old storeroom which had two powerpoints until 12 months ago.
[03:58] <StevenK> Two completely seperate air conditioners, one primary, and a second set to kick in if the temperature hits 32
[04:02] <maswan> Heh. We used to have redundant cooling, but then we started wanting to use four times as much power as the room was designed for. So it isn't redundant anymore. ;)
[04:03] <StevenK> Heh
[04:03] <pygi> Hobbsee, closed another bug, thank you, thank you :)
[04:03] <Hobbsee> pygi: woo!
[04:03] <Fujitsu> We had no ventilation at all until this air conditioner was installed. It was completely uninhabitable for any appreciable length of time.
[04:04] <pygi> Hobbsee, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3b/+bug/82323
[04:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 82323 in k3b "[KDE 3.5.6]  k3b wants "+-DVDs" ... and rejects "+DVDs" " [Undecided,Fix released]  
[04:04] <pitti_> hi StevenK 
[04:04] <Hobbsee> hiya short tailed pitti_ 
[04:04] <StevenK> pitti_: rss-glx hit DEPWAIT. :-/
[04:04] <pitti_> hmm
[04:05] <pitti> bah, someone seems to use my nickname
[04:05] <pygi> pitti, I'll need to talk to you next week about k3b language packs
[04:05] <pitti> took me three attempts to kill the bad pitti
[04:05] <Hobbsee> pitti: ghost is your friend
[04:05] <StevenK> I wish Freenode still enforced Secure.
[04:05] <maswan> Fujitsu: well, we're building a new machine room now, which will have some new and interesting designs, and it'll handle 25 kW/rack. :)
[04:05] <Fujitsu> pitti: Set the security thing on so they automatically get killed after 30 seconds.
[04:05] <pitti> Hobbsee: that's what I did, but the 'other' pitti logged back in too fast
[04:05] <Hobbsee> StevenK: i so wish.
[04:05] <Hobbsee> pitti: urgh
[04:06] <Fujitsu> StevenK: I think they do... I've seen it a couple of times.
[04:06] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: freenode disabled it.
[04:06] <pitti> but only the real pitti has 'pitti' registered, muhahaha
[04:06] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: that's not the same as nick collision message - that's manual
[04:06] <Hobbsee> pitti: *evil grin*
[04:06] <pitti> StevenK: needs a MIR for freealut
[04:06] <Fujitsu> How strange. I've seen some nicks get killed after exactly 30 seconds.
[04:06] <StevenK> pitti: I think it would be openal?
[04:06] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: staffers?
[04:06] <pygi> Hobbsee, woo, a lot of users are reporting back already :)
[04:07] <Hobbsee> pygi: yay!
[04:07] <Fujitsu> Hobbsee: I don't believe so.
[04:07] <pygi> got like 4 feedbacks already
[04:07] <Hobbsee> Fujitsu: weird
[04:07] <Hobbsee> pygi: yay!
[04:08] <Arby> pygi: you'll get another one when I get my gutsy up to date :)
[04:08] <pygi> Arby, yay! Which one? :)
[04:08] <Arby> bug 119187
[04:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119187 in k3b "[Gutsy]  cd burning with k3b fails" [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119187
[04:09] <pygi> Arby, k, thanks
[04:11] <StevenK> pitti: Actually, both freealut and openal need MIRs
[04:13] <geser> pitti: could you give-back mlterm on all archs != sparc? or should I ask on monday again?
[04:13] <pitti> geser: that's fine
[04:13] <Mithrandir> geser: given-back
[04:15] <geser> thanks
[04:16] <geser> pitti: do you know if Ubuntu will also do the libcurl3 -> libcurl4 -> libcurl3 transition Debian did?
[04:16] <pygi> geser, hm, back to libcurl3?
[04:17] <geser> yes
[04:17] <StevenK> libcurl in Debian is a *mess*
[04:17] <pygi> damn
[04:17] <geser> curl 7.16.2-5 is back to libcurl3{,-gnutls} (see http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/curl/news/20070620T223309Z.html)
[04:18] <StevenK> geser: I'm ignoring it until they stop fiddling.
[04:19] <StevenK> pitti: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportOpenAL ; that's the first one
[04:20] <geser> StevenK: I've uploaded some rebuilds for the libcurl3 -> libcurl4 transition only to notice that this transition will be undone again
[04:20] <geser> I'm wondering now if I've to upload them again for libcurl4 -> libcurl3
[04:20] <StevenK> geser: Which is exactly why I'm ignoring it.
[04:22] <geser> the current status of the curl package isn't the best either: libcurl3 but libcurl4-openssl-dev
[04:26] <pitti> StevenK: weird, anastacia says it wants freealut
[04:26] <pitti> geser: erk, why should we do that?
[04:27] <StevenK> pitti: Build logs say libopenal-dev
[04:27] <StevenK> pitti: But freealut is in there as well
[04:27] <StevenK> pitti: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportFreeAlut as well
[04:28] <pitti> StevenK: oh, great
[04:29] <pitti> geser: erm, mlterm is current on all arches
[04:29] <StevenK> pitti: Mithrandir handled it
[04:29] <pitti> geser: why oh why did they have the brilliant idea of rolling back the ABI? at some point they need to do it anyway...
[04:30] <StevenK> pitti: If it helps openal used to be in main
[04:35] <pitti> StevenK: hm, we demoted it in dapper
[04:41] <pitti> StevenK: can you please add those two MIRs to the queue?
[04:44] <StevenK> pitti: Done.
[04:44] <StevenK> pitti: Re-generate the cruft pages when you feel so inclined, please.
[04:48] <pitti> StevenK: archive-cruft-check is broken, sorry
[04:48] <pitti> StevenK: I'll talk about it with cprov
[04:48] <StevenK> Okay, cool.
[04:51] <geser> pitti: the libcurl transition caused to much trouble with the testing transition so they found it easier to fix the abi than coordinate the transition
[05:10] <lfittl> smurf: you were working on packages for 1wire owfs at some point, are they available somewhere?
[05:20] <Arby> pygi: bug 119187 seems to be fixed in updated gutsy, shall I close as fix released?
[05:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119187 in k3b "[Gutsy]  cd burning with k3b fails" [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119187
[05:21] <Hobbsee> Arby: yes please
[05:21] <Arby> and another one gone :)
[05:21] <Hobbsee> woo!
[05:36] <pygi> Arby, yea :P
[05:36] <pygi> sorry, was eating
[05:36] <pygi> but thanks :)
[05:36] <Arby> pygi: no problem :)
[05:37] <pygi> Hobbsee, told ya! :P
[05:37] <pygi> bdmurray, poke
[05:37] <pygi> bdmurray, I triaged entire k3b, can I get -qa now pls? :P
[05:39] <pygi> Hobbsee, yay, a user is asking me did I test it on the specific home theater system he has :p
[05:40] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:40] <Hobbsee> "sure, i broke into your house!"
[05:41] <pygi> nah, he meant the model
[05:41] <pygi> but hehe :)
[05:43] <pygi> Hobbsee, another one done
[05:43] <Hobbsee> pygi: woo :)
[05:44] <pygi> Hobbsee, could you see about putting 1.0.1 into feisty-backports?
[05:44] <Hobbsee> pygi: bug jdong 
[05:45] <pygi> Hobbsee, but, but ...
[05:45] <pygi> you should do something :)
[05:45] <Hobbsee> pygi: i am.  i've just discovered a major critical bug.
[05:45] <pygi> Hobbsee, which one, which one?
[05:45] <pygi> jdong, awake pls
[05:46] <Hobbsee> adept is totally broken
[05:46] <pygi> ah
[05:46] <pygi> that happens a lot
[05:47] <Hobbsee> not like this...
[05:48] <pygi> what exactly is a problem? Can I help?
[05:49] <pitti> geser: sorry, my ISP dropped off for a bit; so Debian will permanently keep curl3?
[06:05] <geser> I've looked now into the libcurl3-gnutls deb: the lib is named libcurl-gnutls.so.4.0.0, there is also a symlink libcurl-gnutls.so.3
[06:06] <geser> they restored the API, kept the new so-version from upstream but use the old package name again to avoid the transition
[06:11] <geser> pitti: imho it's a mess now
[06:13] <geser> Hi sabdfl
[06:14] <Hobbsee> gahh.....
[06:14] <sabdfl> howdy
[06:14] <pygi> Hobbsee, do it for me as well :)
[06:14] <Hobbsee> hiya sabdfl 
[06:14] <pitti> hi sabdfl
[06:14] <geser> Hobbsee: be careful to not break it anymore
[06:15] <pitti> geser: OMG
[06:15] <Hobbsee> neat.  because i nominated a bug for a release, i cant actually approve said nomination for some reason.
[06:15] <Mithrandir> Hobbsee: which bug?
[06:15] <pitti> geser: so they rather break almost all common practices about libraries than simply doing that transition? that's weird
[06:15] <Hobbsee> that's almsot as good as the "triaged state is counted as a closed state" bug, which is brilliant for doing milestone stuff.
[06:16] <Hobbsee> pitti: main freeze was..tuesday, london time?
[06:16] <pitti> Hobbsee: yes, on an appropriate time (bugs fixed, etc.)
[06:16] <Hobbsee> pitti: okay, i'm fairly certain that there will be some kubuntu fixes going in later than that, due to exams and such.
[06:17] <Hobbsee> like, this adept one.
[06:17] <pitti> Hobbsee: that's fine, just subject to our examination
[06:17] <Hobbsee> pitti: where our == ?
[06:17] <pitti> Hobbsee: I'd say, your's for Kubuntu, mine for Ubuntu, ogra's for edubuntu
[06:17] <Hobbsee> pitti: okay, cool
[06:18] <Hobbsee> pitti: thought as much - was just checking that it wasnt some other group of people
[06:18] <pitti> Hobbsee: and, if there are doubts, discussion in #u-r
[06:18] <Hobbsee> pitti: yeah
[06:21] <Hobbsee> pygi: that's set for tribe 3, not 2 - but that'd be great :)
[06:21] <pygi> Hobbsee, oh, k, tribe 3 is better :P
[06:21] <pygi> thanks :P
[06:21] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:21] <geser> Hobbsee: that nomination bug is still isn't fixed? use the workaround: visit that bug via the distrorelease url and click "needs fixing also here"
[06:22] <Hobbsee> geser: no, that is fixed.
[06:22] <Hobbsee> geser: there's a propose/decline functoin if you're in ~ubuntu-releas
[06:22] <Hobbsee> e
[06:22] <pitti> s/propose/accept/?
[06:22] <geser> ah
[06:23] <Hobbsee> er, yes.
[06:23] <pygi> Hobbsee, is there any kubuntu-related package that needs updating?
[06:23] <Hobbsee> pygi: there are some that need fixing.
[06:23] <Hobbsee> pygi: if you're wanting to look into something, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/119408
[06:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119408 in kde-guidance "[gutsy]  kde-guidance power manager causes screen to turn off" [Undecided,New]  
[06:23] <pygi> meh, no idea about it's codebase :p
[06:23] <Hobbsee> yeah, thoguth so
[06:23] <Hobbsee> do you run kde?
[06:24] <pygi> I have kubuntu on one machine, yes
[06:24] <Hobbsee> confirming that bug would be useful.  i cant reproduce it
[06:24] <pygi> well, that machine isn't here atm, so that would be a problem :)
[06:25] <Hobbsee> ahhh, fair enough
[06:25] <Hobbsee> pygi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+bugs is what i'm looking off
[06:26] <pygi> Hobbsee, k, I'll see what I can do on reproducing that guidance bug for you this wekk if it won't be too late
[06:26] <Hobbsee> pygi: had 2 non-reproduces.  will bug bdmurray about it.
[06:26] <Hobbsee> dont worry about it
[06:27] <Hobbsee> ie, i'm suspecting it's something local.   or to do with his machine
[06:27] <pygi> k, then I'll worry about that k3b stuff
[06:27] <Hobbsee> cool :)
[06:28] <pygi> and some others, if I can find something :p
[06:28] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:33] <pygi> Hobbsee, a lot of k3b bugs closed today :)
[06:33] <Hobbsee> pygi: yep :)
[06:33] <Hobbsee> pygi: that should show up on bugstats too :)
[06:34] <pygi> Hobbsee, this release will have lowest amount of cd-recording bugs ever, yay!
[06:34] <ogra> who pinged ?
[06:34] <Hobbsee> woo!
[06:34] <Hobbsee> ogra: pitti did
[06:34] <pygi> ogra, nobody, you were just referenced AFAIK :)
[06:34] <pygi> Hobbsee, too bad we can't do 0 bugs just yet :P
[06:34] <ogra> ah :)
[06:35] <ogra> pitti, we have a very scary bug in nbd that might make edubuntu skip tribe2
[06:35] <pygi> ogra, what's nbd? o.O
[06:35] <ogra> bug #121827
[06:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121827 in nbd "nbd-server can no longer be started from inetd" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121827
[06:35] <pitti> ogra: oh, so hard to fix? well, it's your call anyway
[06:35] <Hobbsee> "tribe 2 is cancelled due to lack of interest" :P
[06:35] <ogra> pitti, well, we need to develop half the nbd-server new
[06:36] <ogra> since upstream didnt care for one work wise at all and only developed the standalone functionallity witout noting it even anywhere
[06:37] <pygi> k, that was abuse of powers :'(
[06:37] <Hobbsee> awww
[06:37] <Hobbsee> [02:36]  *** You have kicked pygi from the channel (HERE BE MY BOOT OF DOOM!!!!).
[06:37] <ogra> so they dropped 50% functionallity out of laziness instead of waiting with the release until they have no regressions anymore ...
[06:37] <ogra> evil practise
[06:37] <ScottK> pitti: Riddell said I should ping you about an MIR. Is this a good time? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportPinentry
[06:38] <pygi> :'(
[06:38] <pitti> ScottK: is it targeted for tribe-2?
[06:38] <ScottK> pitti: No.
[06:39] <ScottK> Kmail will depend on it once we get it into main.
[07:20] <smurf> lfittl: will be soon, I can also mail you the current diff
[07:22] <lfittl> smurf: would be useful, to lfittl AT ubuntu.com, thanks
[07:51] <sbalneav> Can someone help me with a policy issue?  for ltsp-server, we rely on nbd-server being able to be started from inetd.  Upstrem's completely removed this from the code because they "think no-one's using it".  I'd be willing to hack together a standalone nbd-server-inetd package, and become upstream for it...
[07:52] <Mithrandir> why not rather tell them you're using it and would like it back?
[07:52] <Nafallo> sbalneav: have you talked to upstream about it?
[07:52] <sbalneav> So far, unanswered
[07:53] <sbalneav> but in other threads, others have broought it up, and they seem... reticent to bring it back.
[07:54] <sbalneav> So, our options seem to be 1) backpedal to a previous version, 2) maintain a patchset, or 3) roll our own server.
[07:54] <sbalneav> which would be "preferable", if wheedling with upstream fails?
[07:57] <Mithrandir> why do you need to have it started from inetd rather than running all the time?
[07:58] <sbalneav> for swapping.  When we attach, we need to create the swapfile in /tmp, attach the nbd-server, and when it exits, clean up the swapfile.
[07:58] <sbalneav> this is handled with a wrapper script, which gets launched from inetd.
[08:01] <sbalneav> Plus, imho, upstream's added a huge amount of security fluff (don't allow connects from listed ip's, launch as a certain user, etc etc) which is easily handled by existing inetd/tcpd.
[08:09] <sbalneav> Mithrandir: I've emailed again, I'll create a patchset, and hopefully, they'll be willing to take it upstream.
[09:14] <davmor2> Hi devs:  I have downloaded today iso and ubiquity is crashing out.  What info do you need
[09:15] <ScottK> davmor2: First try in #ubuntu for help to see if you can get the problem figured out.
[09:16] <davmor2> ScottK:  this is today's gutsy iso image.
[09:16] <ScottK> davmor2: Then #ubuntu+1 I would guess.
[09:18] <davmor2> ScottK:  will they be able to fix the problem there then?
[09:19] <pochu> davmor2: you can attach the crash under /var/crash/ to a bug report.
[09:19] <ScottK> davmor2: That is the help channel for Gutsy.  Start there and if they can't sort it out, file a bug.  This is a channel for development, not for help.
[09:19] <pochu> davmor2: Also the output running ubiquityunder a terminal.
[09:19] <davmor2> pochu: ta
[09:21] <davmor2> pochu:  It's firing up a memory warning but the memory is fine?
[09:21] <davmor2> will post a bug now that I have lowered it down a bit
[09:24] <pochu> davmor2: ignore that memory warning ;)
[09:24] <davmor2> pochu: but that's what is crashing it out :( 
[09:34] <pochu> davmor2: isn't there a backtrace?
[09:34] <pochu> davmor2: I doubt that warning is related, since it talks about Glib functions, and ubiquity is written in python...
[10:52] <evand> davmor2: there's currently a bug in Ubiquity that SIGSEVs.  It doesn't produce a report, afaik, nor does it dump anything helpful in the logs.  I'm looking into it.  I'm not sure if it's the bug you describe, though.