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lagasuperm1: which debconf priority do i actually have to use in ubuntu/mythbuntu to get my questions to appear?12:27
superm1oh lets see12:28
superm1i think medium or high12:28
superm1take a look at mythtv-frontend.preinst12:28
lagahigh doesn't work on my feisty install, but it's a server install12:28
lagaok12:28
superm1and see the priority its got12:28
superm1that shows up every time that debconf frontend other than noninteractive is available12:28
lagado you meanmythtv-common.config?12:32
superm1not having them in front of me - possibly :)12:32
lagaheh12:32
lagaseems to be "low"12:32
lagawell12:33
superm1low?12:33
superm1well then you've got me - i'll have to see later on12:33
superm1what has to be done for them to show12:33
lagadoesn't make sense, huh?12:33
laganeeds to be "critical" here.. but .. well..12:34
lagabeer and my sinusses are making my brains weak :)12:34
superm1well clearly critical isn't what it should be12:34
lagait's possible my install is broken...12:34
lagai'll try it in a VM later12:34
superm1i'll add it to my  ever growing list of things to see tonight :)12:35
lagaheh12:35
lagai've got 20 minutes left till the $GF comes12:35
superm1well figure it out fast then :)12:35
superm1although thats not the most critical thing that it shows12:36
superm1as long as there is code to enable it via dpkg-reconfigure12:36
lagayes12:36
lagathe postrm seems to give me trouble... and a debconf template seems to be broken12:36
lagabut that's not critical12:36
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superm1keescook, did the bzr changes look good this time around ?02:04
keescookwas going to look shortly, but currently fighting with celestia02:08
superm1fun fun :)02:09
superm1keescook, do you know the proper way to work with a bzr branch and many people?  Should everyone have the branch "bound" to the parent?02:09
superm1and then bzr update?02:09
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superm1before making their commits02:09
keescooksuperm1: I've seen a number of ways to work on a branch.02:11
keescookwith lots of people, I think its easier for everyone to have their own branches02:11
superm1i guess i'm just wondering the cleanest way to do it02:11
keescookand then one person does the merging and push to the "central" branch02:12
superm1with say 3 or 4 people who would be changing something here and there02:12
keescookI'm still new to it, but I've seen both styles.02:12
superm1so then the person who does the merges, do they have to make a copy of the additional branch?02:12
superm1and then bzr merge DIR2 when inside the branch they are merging to?02:12
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ubotuNew bug: #121820 in mythbuntu "Mythbuntu failed installation" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12182002:55
superm1DaveMorris, you didn't tell me that all these LaTeX packages were 137MB of downloads!05:20
superm1DaveMorris, just got the docs built, overall looks like its headed in a very good direction05:40
superm1i like the images at the bottom there showing off connections :)05:40
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Xenocidesuperm1, ya there?06:29
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kruuliman im hangover :<10:44
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reclusivemonkeykruuli: Hair of the dog?11:00
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MorgennebelHello12:05
DaveMorrissuperm1: I didn't know how big the packages where!12:16
DaveMorrissuperm1: I wanted to leave the user with no doubt over what they where doing, so I'm prob gonna talk about the different PAL formats as well12:16
DaveMorrisand I might even talk about DVI, HDMI, VGA12:16
kruulireclusivemonkey: dont know if i know what that means :p12:17
kruulii found something great yesterday .. im already using XBMC on my old xbox .. found a python script that makes the xbox to a frontend :D12:18
reclusivemonkeyhi kruuli, Its a hangover "cure" which consists of having a small amount of the alcohol you drank to get your hangover in the first place. Can be tricky if you were mixing your drinks ;-)12:18
kruuliusing just that script and xbmc :>12:18
kruulireclusivemonkey haha .. yeah i was .. whiskey vodka beer will be drunk by the time i finish the "cure" :D12:19
reclusivemonkeykruuli: lol, yeah maybe not the best cure in this case...12:20
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blitzcoderHi. I use Ubuntu an try to install MythTV, but it doenst work. when I wnat to run setup, It just throws a SegFault (Core Comped)12:43
blitzcoderDumped*12:44
blitzcoderAny Idea?12:55
lagawhat does it say in the terminal?12:58
blitzcoderMom, i'll post the Complete output01:02
blitzcoderhttp://nopaste.info/681f9f2223.html01:03
blitzcoderSame when I start normal mythtv01:03
blitzcoderMaybe he has Problems with my 2 Screens+Xinerama01:04
lagainteresting01:04
lagaplease start mythtv-setup -v all01:05
blitzcoderWahoo01:05
blitzcoderhttp://nopaste.info/88a9f26a13.html01:05
blitzcoderJust a few MySQl Querys01:06
lagahm01:06
blitzcoderHm, he asked me to Fill the DB01:06
blitzcoderIt semms he didn't01:06
lagawho's "he"?01:07
lagablitzcoder: try mythtv-setup -O ThemePainter=qt to see if it helps01:07
blitzcoderHm. No.01:09
blitzcoderMy I try the CVS/SVN Version?01:11
blitzcoderMay*01:11
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blitzcoderHm, I'll try to Compile it01:17
blitzcoderAny Idea how long does it take?01:17
blitzcoderIntel P4 3,001:17
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perlmonkeyhi03:26
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perlmonkeydoes anyone run mythtv under Feisty? I'm having a problem, just installed mythtv but the mythtv-setup prog runs everytime I start mythfrontend. any ideas?03:26
DaveMorrisYour using gnome?03:26
DaveMorrisSystem -> Preferences -> Sessions then disable the mythtv program by clicking on the box03:27
perlmonkeyI'm running xfce403:30
DaveMorrisoh sorry, I jsut re read your post03:31
DaveMorrismythtv-setup runs03:31
lagahe's gone03:31
lagaand so am i :) ttyl03:31
DaveMorrisl8rs03:31
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perlmonkeysorry, mythtv-setup crashed my X session03:32
lagai'll start sshd on this box so i can keep working on the packages03:32
perlmonkeyDaveMorris: what was that advice you gave earlier03:33
perlmonkeyis it normal for X to restart each time mythtv-setup runs?03:35
perlmonkeyJun 23 14:31:06 kayak gdm[7590] : gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :003:36
perlmonkeyJun 23 14:13:25 kayak gconfd (paul-7260): Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly03:36
DaveMorrisperlmonkey: I read your post wrong :(03:45
DaveMorrismythtv-setup will run each time if it can't connect to a database03:46
DaveMorriss/database/backend03:46
DaveMorrisare you running the backend on the same machine as the frontend?03:46
perlmonkeysorry03:48
perlmonkeyDaveMorris: thanks thats very helpful Dave, I think I solved it based on what you said03:48
perlmonkeyyes03:48
perlmonkeyI got the backend running now finally03:49
perlmonkeyI'm about to try the frontend, but it usually starts mythtv-setup and then crashes my X03:49
perlmonkeymaybe now the backend is running it will be ok *fingers crossed*03:49
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DaveMorrisare you using dual screens?03:53
perlmonkeystill no lack starting frontend, always starts mythtv-setup and then crashes X on closing03:54
perlmonkeynah03:54
perlmonkey*luck03:54
DaveMorrisdo you have another linux machine on your network?03:54
perlmonkeyya, my setup is like this:03:54
perlmonkeyserver box (running mysql)  client box running mythtv backend and frontend, no connection to tv03:55
perlmonkeymy mythtv folder is mounted on server using nfs03:55
DaveMorrisok, the backend exects the mysql db to be on the local machine03:56
perlmonkeymy aim is to have 3 frontends and one backend connected to tv03:56
DaveMorrisso your server box is exporting via NFS where your recordings are gonna get saved.  It also has the mysql DB.03:58
DaveMorrisThe backend mounts the NFS03:58
DaveMorrissuperm1: you awake yet?03:59
perlmonkeyyes04:00
DaveMorriswhy can't you run the DB on your backend?04:00
perlmonkeyI had this setup working fine until I moved to Ubuntu04:00
perlmonkeyand now its all screwed04:00
perlmonkeywell I thought it better to use the mysql I already had installed04:01
perlmonkeybecause that server is always on, and is accessible to all frontends then04:01
DaveMorrisbut the frontends also need the backend to be running04:01
perlmonkeysorry04:02
DaveMorrisMy server has the backend on it04:02
perlmonkeyi mean, the mysql server is accessible to both backends then04:02
perlmonkeyas I have two backends04:02
perlmonkeyone master and one secondary04:02
DaveMorrisok04:02
DaveMorrisI'm not sure how that can be setup, however do you get any error messages when mythtv-setup crashes?04:02
perlmonkeyone is for cable and one is for regular tv04:02
perlmonkeyall I get is this:04:03
DaveMorrishave you tried forwarding X to another machine and doing it that way?04:03
perlmonkeyJun 23 14:52:26 kayak gconfd (paul-8509): Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly04:04
perlmonkeyJun 23 14:52:28 kayak gdm[8428] : gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :004:04
perlmonkeyI haven't tried that, might be an idea04:04
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DaveMorrisyou know how to do it?04:05
perlmonkeyI dunno how :-/04:05
perlmonkeythat would be useful to know04:06
DaveMorrisssh -X userid@ip/hostname04:06
DaveMorristhen 'mythtv-setup' but it'll be a tad slow as its alot of data to encrypt04:07
perlmonkeythanks :)04:07
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perlmonkeygrrrr crashed X again04:10
DaveMorristbh I've only used gnome, so it might just be an issue with Xfce04:11
perlmonkeycould be yes04:11
DaveMorrismy server has gnome installed, but set not to start by default04:13
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perlmonkeystrange05:48
perlmonkeymythbackend starts but is not showing in ps list and no error is reported05:48
lagatake a look at the log files05:49
perlmonkeyno error reported in mythtv log05:50
perlmonkeysomething weird going on05:51
lagabackend log?05:51
perlmonkeyya05:53
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perlmonkeydamnit05:55
laga?05:55
perlmonkeyits trying to connect on localhost instead of the server IP i entered in mysql.txt in /etc/mythtv05:55
perlmonkeywhy does it ignore it05:55
laga~/.mythtv/mysql.txt might take precedence05:55
perlmonkeyah05:56
perlmonkeyI copied my mysql.txt there and verified, and restarted backend, made no difference :-/05:57
perlmonkeystill its trying on localhost05:57
lagawhat is it trying on localhost05:57
perlmonkeyAccess denied for user 'mythtv'@'kayak' (using password: YES)05:58
lagahuh?05:59
perlmonkeyQSqlQuery::exec: database not open05:59
perlmonkey2007-06-23 16:50:05.780 DB Error (KickDatabase):05:59
perlmonkey:-/05:59
perlmonkeydo you understand it?05:59
perlmonkeyQuery was: SELECT NULL;06:00
lagathere is not "localhost".06:00
perlmonkey2007-06-23 16:50:05.847 Failed to init MythContext, exiting.06:00
perlmonkeykayak = machine I'm using to run backend on06:00
perlmonkeymy mysql server is on magnia06:01
lagahm06:01
perlmonkeyDBHostName=192.168.1.106:01
perlmonkey:-/06:01
perlmonkeywhat more can I do06:02
lagadoes 192.168.1.1 point to magnia?06:02
perlmonkeyyup06:02
perlmonkeybut why is mythbackend trying to connect to mysql on kayak06:03
perlmonkeywhen its been told to use the IP of magnia06:03
lagamaybe there is another mysql.txt06:03
lagause updatedb and locate06:03
perlmonkeyok06:05
perlmonkeygood plan06:05
perlmonkeymy brain is more fried than one of them chicken nuggets at KFC06:05
lagabeen drinking?06:06
perlmonkeyphew 7 copies06:07
perlmonkeyno i dont touch the stuff06:07
lagacrack?06:07
laga;)06:07
lagamy brain feels fried, too06:07
lagastupid cold and i'm in a meeting, writing articles for our student year book06:08
perlmonkeyhaha06:08
perlmonkeyahh06:08
perlmonkeystill wont run, stupid thing06:12
perlmonkeystill trying to connect on localserver, ignoring all of the 7 identical copies of mysql.txt06:13
perlmonkey*throws hands up in air*06:13
laga:(06:13
lagathat's odd06:13
perlmonkeyillogical06:13
perlmonkeymaybe i shud just remove everything and start over06:14
lagasudo dpkg-reconfigure --force mythtv-database06:14
lagatry that06:14
perlmonkeythanks06:14
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perlmonkeygrrrr07:43
perlmonkeydoes anyone know the password for user mythtv07:43
majoridiotfor mysql?07:44
perlmonkeyya07:44
perlmonkeywell the system password07:44
laga /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt07:44
lagaoh07:44
perlmonkeyto login to X07:44
lagathere is none, afaik07:44
perlmonkeyhow do you login to X then as mythtv07:45
majoridiotlogin as your normal user, not mythv07:45
perlmonkeybut the instructions on Ubuntu howto are telling me to login as mythtv user07:45
majoridiotpaste a link07:45
perlmonkeyif I login as normal user I can't run mythtv-setup or it goes mental07:46
perlmonkeyok07:46
perlmonkeyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_Backend_Frontend_Desktop_O07:46
majoridiotwhich step?07:47
perlmonkey"You must run mythtv-setup as the "mythtv" user in order to complete mythtv configuration"07:47
perlmonkeyunder Configuring mythtv-backend07:47
perlmonkeysays07:47
majoridiothave you completed installation or still installing?07:48
perlmonkeyNote that this program requires an X display, so you must either login to an X session as the "mythtv" user, or otherwise arrange for that user to have access to your X display.07:48
perlmonkeystill installing07:48
majoridiotignore that and continue07:48
majoridiot;)07:48
majoridiotseriously.07:48
majoridiot(it all fixes itself)07:49
perlmonkeyI can't get any further tho  :-/07:49
perlmonkeybackend refuses to start and fires up mythtv-setup everytime07:49
perlmonkeyand since its not running as mythtv user it seems unable to access the right settings or write a txt file07:50
perlmonkeyim caught in a loop07:50
majoridiotsec07:50
perlmonkeydo you think it might be because I am not running mysql on same server as backend?07:51
majoridiotuh... yeah. that's an important thing to note.07:52
perlmonkeywell I have mysql running07:52
majoridiot*rolls his eyes*07:52
perlmonkeybut I dont want to connect to that server, I want to use my old mysql server db07:52
majoridiotk07:52
perlmonkeyis it possible?07:52
majoridiotdo you know the password to your old DB?07:52
perlmonkeyyeah07:53
majoridiotk07:53
perlmonkeyi kept the mysql.txt file07:53
majoridiotrun mythtv-setup07:53
perlmonkeyok07:53
majoridiotenter the address of the server running the DB07:53
perlmonkeyI tried that and it has the right details to the old DB07:53
majoridiotand the appropriate info for that db... password, etc.07:53
perlmonkeybut it just doesnt seem to be able to use them for some reason07:53
perlmonkeybackend reports: Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'kayak' (using password: YES)07:53
perlmonkeyits still lookin locally for db07:54
perlmonkeykayak = machine backend is on, not my mysql server07:54
perlmonkeyoh wait07:54
perlmonkeythat doesn't mean it does it07:54
perlmonkeythat means mytv @ machine kayak, cud not login to mysql server eh07:55
perlmonkeydoesnt mean, mysql server @ kayak?07:55
majoridiotcorrect07:55
perlmonkeyphew07:55
perlmonkeyI better double check my pw07:55
majoridiotalso...07:56
perlmonkeywoah07:57
perlmonkeypassword was wrong07:57
perlmonkeymajoridiot you'e a genius, thanks a lot man07:57
majoridiotmake sure that /etc/mysql/my.cnf on the machine running the DB you want to use has "bind-address= 127.0.0.1" commented out with a hash (restart the db if needed)07:57
perlmonkey3 hrs been fighting it07:57
lagao_O07:57
majoridiot:) glad you got it going, dude!07:57
perlmonkeylaga thanks too earlier07:58
perlmonkeysorry for leading on a wild goose chase, simple things can be overlooked eh07:58
lagahehe07:58
majoridiotyup.07:58
majoridioteasy to do.07:58
perlmonkeyphew i wonder i will be able to access all my old recordings and stuff now07:58
majoridiotshould be able to.07:59
perlmonkeyi initially installed mythtv under Debian and Ive since switched to Ubuntu, but all my mythtv stuff was on a separate hdd which has remained untouched07:59
perlmonkeyshould be ok eh07:59
majoridiotunless you moved the drive with the recordings to another machine.07:59
perlmonkeynah its still here07:59
majoridiotshould be fine, then.08:00
perlmonkeyand slightly full ;-)08:00
perlmonkeywoah its all working08:05
perlmonkeythanks guys!08:05
majoridiot:D08:05
majoridiotyw08:05
majoridiotenjoy!08:05
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lagaomg it's balmer08:07
perlmonkeyhaha steve balmer style08:07
perlmonkeyI lost my sound :-/08:08
laga:'(08:09
majoridiotfix the settings08:09
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superm1_DaveMorris, i'm here08:24
superm1_i've had errands i've been running all morning08:24
superm1_so i just got back to my machine08:24
lagamorning superm1_08:25
superm1_well afternoon now :)08:25
superm1_but hi08:25
lagayes, i'm working on the password stuff, no worries08:26
superm1_haha08:26
superm1_i wasn't worried yet :)08:26
laga:)08:26
lagathere are lots of small things that need to be taken care of08:26
majoridiotsuperm1_ : i should have time for testing today08:26
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majoridiotwhich image needs tested?08:26
superm1_majoridiot, ooh good.08:26
superm1_well let me think which one isn't broke08:27
superm1_because lately i broke a lot of them08:27
majoridiothehe08:27
superm1_majoridiot, could you hold off a bit, i'll do a rebuild with last night's changes, and hopefully you can just test off the current one that i've got then08:27
superm1_i think i might have restabalized it08:28
majoridiotat your discretion...08:28
majoridioti just know you needed testing and today i have time08:28
superm1_all day or just for a bit?08:28
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superm1_or can it be localized for later?08:28
majoridiotpretty much all day :)08:28
superm1_okay good good.  i'll kick off a rebuild of ubiquity and try these out.  otherwise i'll have you downloading 2-4 gigs of images trying to find the last stable one :)08:29
majoridioti need to move the osx hd from the testbox to the backend... other than that, i'm good to go whenever.08:29
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majoridiot:P08:29
superm1_majoridiot, you saw my mail about us getting the forums correct?08:30
majoridiotjust replied. :)08:30
majoridiotVG news08:30
superm1_ah08:30
majoridioti'm hoping to have time to code some more firewire tools today, too... that project had to be put on hold as well.08:31
superm1_i was gonna ask what happened with that too08:31
superm1_well won't have to worry about maintaining the forums for at least another 1-2 months08:31
superm1_until we can announce beta08:31
superm1_i'm thinking at least 1-2 more alphas next month followed by beta in august08:31
majoridiotthat timing is much better for me08:32
superm1_laga, i didn't get to set up my ccache'd pbuilder yet - did it speed things up for you?08:33
majoridiotmade great progress on the fw project until everything went sideways a few weeks ago... haven't had the time or energy for anything beyond thinking about it.  but there's a plan to work.08:33
superm1_did you end up recruiting the other guys you were looking for?08:34
lagasuperm1_: havent tried it either08:34
lagatoo little time to get anything done correctly08:34
superm1_laga, fell asleep last night while i was waiting for a test build :)08:34
majoridiotsuperm1_: no recruits yet... still working alone.08:34
superm1_didn't you find some folks with interest in said project though?08:35
majoridiotone guy that is helping with research... but nobody with the needed skillz, yet.08:35
majoridiotstill a lot of background to cover before that is critical.08:35
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lagasuperm1_: looks like the ubuntu guys will work on their own solution to the mysql root problem.08:38
lagain bug 11907508:38
ubotuLaunchpad bug 119075 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "Root password policy for mysql" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11907508:38
superm1_ubuntu guys?08:38
superm1_ah08:39
superm1_laga, so what do you think is the best approach re: that mysql password issue then,  just let them sort out the entire thing?08:54
lagafor now, yes08:56
lagai'm busy enough as it is08:56
superm1_well hopefully you don't lose too much sleep on this mythweb thing08:58
lagana, i won't08:59
lagai just wanna do it properly ;)08:59
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lagawell09:00
lagathat is the fun part09:00
majoridiot;)09:01
lagai'm a student, so i'm not used to doing things properly09:01
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majoridiothehe09:02
lagasuperm1_: we can still use the "debian-sys-maint" to initialize the database, it doesn't have to be root09:19
superm1_laga, thats a good point09:20
majoridiotsuperm1_: ok... i have the osx drive pulled and the testbox running again.  i can drop it in the backend and test whenever you are ready.09:20
superm1_majoridiot, okay.  still yet tracking down a big annoyance in a template09:20
superm1_i'll let you know when i've got it09:21
majoridiotk09:21
lagaheh09:28
laganice. aptitude purge mythweb stills fails with "subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 128", but running "sudo sh -e /var/lib/dpkg/info/mythweb.postrm purge" works fine09:29
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laga"128" equals "invalid argument to exit"09:37
lagai don't understand it. *sigh*09:38
majoridiotdoes it purge but error on exit or just error?09:39
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lagamajoridiot: the package content is still there on the file system09:42
majoridiothm.09:42
lagai'll upload some logs09:42
lagahttp://www.pastebin.ca/58633209:43
laga^^ that's the postrm09:43
lagahttp://www.pastebin.ca/58633409:44
laga^^that's the aptitude log09:44
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superm1_laga, does the reload fail?09:52
lagasuperm1_: it shouldn't matter since it's using || true09:52
lagai'll append || true to the apache_reload call09:52
superm1_well you need to identify where things are failing09:53
superm1_adding a lot of echo's09:53
superm1_around statements09:53
superm1_will help09:53
lagaah, thanks09:53
lagai'll try that09:53
lagabasic debugging techniques :)09:53
lagai believe the error stems from the db_purge command. apache2 reloads fine.10:01
lagai'll investigate tomorrow, gotta get ready now10:01
superm1_k10:07
superm1_cu10:07
superm1_oddly enough the error i'm trying to debug stems from a debconf file with an exit code i dont like either, 1010:07
superm1_whatever that represents10:07
lagaheh10:18
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DaveMorrissuperm1_: you around?11:59
superm1_ys12:00
superm1_+e12:00
DaveMorriswhat licence did you want the install docs etc under?12:00
superm1_probably easiest to go GPL12:00
DaveMorrisGPL for documentation?  Can you do that?12:00
superm1_you can do it for artwork12:01
=== majoridiot thbelieves so
majoridiot-th12:02
DaveMorrisWe'll need to take some photo's of the connection types then for a GPL licence12:03
DaveMorristo replace the ones from wikipedia12:03
superm1_what is the license on those?12:04
superm1_creative commons?12:04
DaveMorrisCC I think12:04
superm1_well i'm not tied to GPL, CC might be easier in that respect12:04
superm1_i've just worked with it more12:04
DaveMorrisOur install manual is gonna end up at over 100 pages me thinks12:06
superm1_omg12:06
superm1_erally?12:06
DaveMorrisyeah with all the different ways you can install12:07
majoridiotthere's a LOT to cover.12:07
DaveMorrisI've currently got 30 pages12:07
superm1_well luckily if its broken up right, things can be re-included12:07
superm1_in different sections12:07
superm1_similar to how majoridiot has the h.u.c pages now12:08
DaveMorrisyeah, also with the screen shots its not much text per page12:08
DaveMorrish.u.c. pages?12:08
superm1_!mythtv12:08
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV12:08
=== majoridiot glad to know the h.u.c. reference confuses other people too
majoridiothehe12:08
DaveMorrismajoridiot: ok if I still stuff from there?12:09
DaveMorriss/still/steal12:09
majoridiotit's not stealing12:12
majoridiothave at it12:12
majoridiot:)12:12
=== superm1_ is very frustrated with debconf. it doesn't like his templates at all
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