[12:27] superm1: which debconf priority do i actually have to use in ubuntu/mythbuntu to get my questions to appear? [12:28] oh lets see [12:28] i think medium or high [12:28] take a look at mythtv-frontend.preinst [12:28] high doesn't work on my feisty install, but it's a server install [12:28] ok [12:28] and see the priority its got [12:28] that shows up every time that debconf frontend other than noninteractive is available [12:32] do you meanmythtv-common.config? [12:32] not having them in front of me - possibly :) [12:32] heh [12:32] seems to be "low" [12:33] well [12:33] low? [12:33] well then you've got me - i'll have to see later on [12:33] what has to be done for them to show [12:33] doesn't make sense, huh? [12:34] needs to be "critical" here.. but .. well.. [12:34] beer and my sinusses are making my brains weak :) [12:34] well clearly critical isn't what it should be [12:34] it's possible my install is broken... [12:34] i'll try it in a VM later [12:35] i'll add it to my ever growing list of things to see tonight :) [12:35] heh [12:35] i've got 20 minutes left till the $GF comes [12:35] well figure it out fast then :) [12:36] although thats not the most critical thing that it shows [12:36] as long as there is code to enable it via dpkg-reconfigure [12:36] yes [12:36] the postrm seems to give me trouble... and a debconf template seems to be broken [12:36] but that's not critical === shurbann_ [n=shurbann@5354A183.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === shurbann__ [n=shurbann@5354A183.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:04] keescook, did the bzr changes look good this time around ? [02:08] was going to look shortly, but currently fighting with celestia [02:09] fun fun :) [02:09] keescook, do you know the proper way to work with a bzr branch and many people? Should everyone have the branch "bound" to the parent? [02:09] and then bzr update? === tuxie_fl [n=joe813@165-238.207-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:09] before making their commits [02:11] superm1: I've seen a number of ways to work on a branch. [02:11] with lots of people, I think its easier for everyone to have their own branches [02:11] i guess i'm just wondering the cleanest way to do it [02:12] and then one person does the merging and push to the "central" branch [02:12] with say 3 or 4 people who would be changing something here and there [02:12] I'm still new to it, but I've seen both styles. [02:12] so then the person who does the merges, do they have to make a copy of the additional branch? [02:12] and then bzr merge DIR2 when inside the branch they are merging to? === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:55] New bug: #121820 in mythbuntu "Mythbuntu failed installation" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121820 [05:20] DaveMorris, you didn't tell me that all these LaTeX packages were 137MB of downloads! [05:40] DaveMorris, just got the docs built, overall looks like its headed in a very good direction [05:40] i like the images at the bottom there showing off connections :) === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === xeno_ [n=xeno@cpe-024-163-112-039.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:29] superm1, ya there? === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5FAC5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === hugol1 [n=jo@89.129.156.17] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === hugol1 [n=jo@89.129.156.17] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === reclusivemonkey [n=monkey@host86-133-225-36.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === kruuli [i=kruuli@c-bcb772d5.013-36-73746f51.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:44] man im hangover :< === Hugolp [n=jo@89.129.156.17] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:00] kruuli: Hair of the dog? === Morgennebel [n=os@dslb-088-072-218-049.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:05] Hello [12:16] superm1: I didn't know how big the packages where! [12:16] superm1: I wanted to leave the user with no doubt over what they where doing, so I'm prob gonna talk about the different PAL formats as well [12:16] and I might even talk about DVI, HDMI, VGA [12:17] reclusivemonkey: dont know if i know what that means :p [12:18] i found something great yesterday .. im already using XBMC on my old xbox .. found a python script that makes the xbox to a frontend :D [12:18] hi kruuli, Its a hangover "cure" which consists of having a small amount of the alcohol you drank to get your hangover in the first place. Can be tricky if you were mixing your drinks ;-) [12:18] using just that script and xbmc :> [12:19] reclusivemonkey haha .. yeah i was .. whiskey vodka beer will be drunk by the time i finish the "cure" :D [12:20] kruuli: lol, yeah maybe not the best cure in this case... === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === blitzcoder [n=blitzcod@xdsl-84-44-193-46.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:43] Hi. I use Ubuntu an try to install MythTV, but it doenst work. when I wnat to run setup, It just throws a SegFault (Core Comped) [12:44] Dumped* [12:55] Any Idea? [12:58] what does it say in the terminal? [01:02] Mom, i'll post the Complete output [01:03] http://nopaste.info/681f9f2223.html [01:03] Same when I start normal mythtv [01:04] Maybe he has Problems with my 2 Screens+Xinerama [01:04] interesting [01:05] please start mythtv-setup -v all [01:05] Wahoo [01:05] http://nopaste.info/88a9f26a13.html [01:06] Just a few MySQl Querys [01:06] hm [01:06] Hm, he asked me to Fill the DB [01:06] It semms he didn't [01:07] who's "he"? [01:07] blitzcoder: try mythtv-setup -O ThemePainter=qt to see if it helps [01:09] Hm. No. [01:11] My I try the CVS/SVN Version? [01:11] May* === Hugolp [n=jo@89.129.156.17] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [01:17] Hm, I'll try to Compile it [01:17] Any Idea how long does it take? [01:17] Intel P4 3,0 === perlmonkey [n=paul@77-100-176-203.cable.ubr04.brom.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:26] hi === laga waves [03:26] does anyone run mythtv under Feisty? I'm having a problem, just installed mythtv but the mythtv-setup prog runs everytime I start mythfrontend. any ideas? [03:26] Your using gnome? [03:27] System -> Preferences -> Sessions then disable the mythtv program by clicking on the box [03:30] I'm running xfce4 [03:31] oh sorry, I jsut re read your post [03:31] mythtv-setup runs [03:31] he's gone [03:31] and so am i :) ttyl [03:31] l8rs === DaveMorris goes as well === perlmonkey [n=paul@77-100-176-203.cable.ubr04.brom.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:32] sorry, mythtv-setup crashed my X session [03:32] i'll start sshd on this box so i can keep working on the packages [03:33] DaveMorris: what was that advice you gave earlier [03:35] is it normal for X to restart each time mythtv-setup runs? [03:36] Jun 23 14:31:06 kayak gdm[7590] : gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 [03:36] Jun 23 14:13:25 kayak gconfd (paul-7260): Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly [03:45] perlmonkey: I read your post wrong :( [03:46] mythtv-setup will run each time if it can't connect to a database [03:46] s/database/backend [03:46] are you running the backend on the same machine as the frontend? [03:48] sorry [03:48] DaveMorris: thanks thats very helpful Dave, I think I solved it based on what you said [03:48] yes [03:49] I got the backend running now finally [03:49] I'm about to try the frontend, but it usually starts mythtv-setup and then crashes my X [03:49] maybe now the backend is running it will be ok *fingers crossed* === perlmonkey [n=paul@77-100-176-203.cable.ubr04.brom.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:53] are you using dual screens? [03:54] still no lack starting frontend, always starts mythtv-setup and then crashes X on closing [03:54] nah [03:54] *luck [03:54] do you have another linux machine on your network? [03:54] ya, my setup is like this: [03:55] server box (running mysql) client box running mythtv backend and frontend, no connection to tv [03:55] my mythtv folder is mounted on server using nfs [03:56] ok, the backend exects the mysql db to be on the local machine [03:56] my aim is to have 3 frontends and one backend connected to tv [03:58] so your server box is exporting via NFS where your recordings are gonna get saved. It also has the mysql DB. [03:58] The backend mounts the NFS [03:59] superm1: you awake yet? [04:00] yes [04:00] why can't you run the DB on your backend? [04:00] I had this setup working fine until I moved to Ubuntu [04:00] and now its all screwed [04:01] well I thought it better to use the mysql I already had installed [04:01] because that server is always on, and is accessible to all frontends then [04:01] but the frontends also need the backend to be running [04:02] sorry [04:02] My server has the backend on it [04:02] i mean, the mysql server is accessible to both backends then [04:02] as I have two backends [04:02] one master and one secondary [04:02] ok [04:02] I'm not sure how that can be setup, however do you get any error messages when mythtv-setup crashes? [04:02] one is for cable and one is for regular tv [04:03] all I get is this: [04:03] have you tried forwarding X to another machine and doing it that way? [04:04] Jun 23 14:52:26 kayak gconfd (paul-8509): Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly [04:04] Jun 23 14:52:28 kayak gdm[8428] : gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 [04:04] I haven't tried that, might be an idea === perlmonkey tries to simplify things [04:05] you know how to do it? [04:05] I dunno how :-/ [04:06] that would be useful to know [04:06] ssh -X userid@ip/hostname [04:07] then 'mythtv-setup' but it'll be a tad slow as its alot of data to encrypt [04:07] thanks :) === perlmonkey [n=paul@77-100-176-203.cable.ubr04.brom.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:10] grrrr crashed X again [04:11] tbh I've only used gnome, so it might just be an issue with Xfce [04:11] could be yes [04:13] my server has gnome installed, but set not to start by default === reclusivemonkey_ [n=monkey@host86-133-225-36.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:48] strange [05:48] mythbackend starts but is not showing in ps list and no error is reported [05:49] take a look at the log files [05:50] no error reported in mythtv log [05:51] something weird going on [05:51] backend log? [05:53] ya === perlmonkey checks [05:55] damnit [05:55] ? [05:55] its trying to connect on localhost instead of the server IP i entered in mysql.txt in /etc/mythtv [05:55] why does it ignore it [05:55] ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt might take precedence [05:56] ah [05:57] I copied my mysql.txt there and verified, and restarted backend, made no difference :-/ [05:57] still its trying on localhost [05:57] what is it trying on localhost [05:58] Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'kayak' (using password: YES) [05:59] huh? [05:59] QSqlQuery::exec: database not open [05:59] 2007-06-23 16:50:05.780 DB Error (KickDatabase): [05:59] :-/ [05:59] do you understand it? [06:00] Query was: SELECT NULL; [06:00] there is not "localhost". [06:00] 2007-06-23 16:50:05.847 Failed to init MythContext, exiting. [06:00] kayak = machine I'm using to run backend on [06:01] my mysql server is on magnia [06:01] hm [06:01] DBHostName=192.168.1.1 [06:01] :-/ [06:02] what more can I do [06:02] does 192.168.1.1 point to magnia? [06:02] yup [06:03] but why is mythbackend trying to connect to mysql on kayak [06:03] when its been told to use the IP of magnia [06:03] maybe there is another mysql.txt [06:03] use updatedb and locate [06:05] ok [06:05] good plan [06:05] my brain is more fried than one of them chicken nuggets at KFC [06:06] been drinking? [06:07] phew 7 copies [06:07] no i dont touch the stuff [06:07] crack? [06:07] ;) [06:07] my brain feels fried, too [06:08] stupid cold and i'm in a meeting, writing articles for our student year book [06:08] haha [06:08] ahh [06:12] still wont run, stupid thing [06:13] still trying to connect on localserver, ignoring all of the 7 identical copies of mysql.txt [06:13] *throws hands up in air* [06:13] :( [06:13] that's odd [06:13] illogical [06:14] maybe i shud just remove everything and start over [06:14] sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force mythtv-database [06:14] try that [06:14] thanks === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === majoridiot [n=majoridi@74-141-134-199.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === perlmonkey [n=paul@77-100-176-203.cable.ubr04.brom.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:43] grrrr [07:43] does anyone know the password for user mythtv [07:44] for mysql? [07:44] ya [07:44] well the system password [07:44] /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt [07:44] oh [07:44] to login to X [07:44] there is none, afaik [07:45] how do you login to X then as mythtv [07:45] login as your normal user, not mythv [07:45] but the instructions on Ubuntu howto are telling me to login as mythtv user [07:45] paste a link [07:46] if I login as normal user I can't run mythtv-setup or it goes mental [07:46] ok [07:46] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_Backend_Frontend_Desktop_O [07:47] which step? [07:47] "You must run mythtv-setup as the "mythtv" user in order to complete mythtv configuration" [07:47] under Configuring mythtv-backend [07:47] says [07:48] have you completed installation or still installing? [07:48] Note that this program requires an X display, so you must either login to an X session as the "mythtv" user, or otherwise arrange for that user to have access to your X display. [07:48] still installing [07:48] ignore that and continue [07:48] ;) [07:48] seriously. [07:49] (it all fixes itself) [07:49] I can't get any further tho :-/ [07:49] backend refuses to start and fires up mythtv-setup everytime [07:50] and since its not running as mythtv user it seems unable to access the right settings or write a txt file [07:50] im caught in a loop [07:50] sec [07:51] do you think it might be because I am not running mysql on same server as backend? [07:52] uh... yeah. that's an important thing to note. [07:52] well I have mysql running [07:52] *rolls his eyes* [07:52] but I dont want to connect to that server, I want to use my old mysql server db [07:52] k [07:52] is it possible? [07:52] do you know the password to your old DB? [07:53] yeah [07:53] k [07:53] i kept the mysql.txt file [07:53] run mythtv-setup [07:53] ok [07:53] enter the address of the server running the DB [07:53] I tried that and it has the right details to the old DB [07:53] and the appropriate info for that db... password, etc. [07:53] but it just doesnt seem to be able to use them for some reason [07:53] backend reports: Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'kayak' (using password: YES) [07:54] its still lookin locally for db [07:54] kayak = machine backend is on, not my mysql server [07:54] oh wait [07:54] that doesn't mean it does it [07:55] that means mytv @ machine kayak, cud not login to mysql server eh [07:55] doesnt mean, mysql server @ kayak? [07:55] correct [07:55] phew [07:55] I better double check my pw [07:56] also... [07:57] woah [07:57] password was wrong [07:57] majoridiot you'e a genius, thanks a lot man [07:57] make sure that /etc/mysql/my.cnf on the machine running the DB you want to use has "bind-address= 127.0.0.1" commented out with a hash (restart the db if needed) [07:57] 3 hrs been fighting it [07:57] o_O [07:57] :) glad you got it going, dude! [07:58] laga thanks too earlier [07:58] sorry for leading on a wild goose chase, simple things can be overlooked eh [07:58] hehe [07:58] yup. [07:58] easy to do. [07:58] phew i wonder i will be able to access all my old recordings and stuff now [07:59] should be able to. [07:59] i initially installed mythtv under Debian and Ive since switched to Ubuntu, but all my mythtv stuff was on a separate hdd which has remained untouched [07:59] should be ok eh [07:59] unless you moved the drive with the recordings to another machine. [07:59] nah its still here [08:00] should be fine, then. [08:00] and slightly full ;-) [08:05] woah its all working [08:05] thanks guys! [08:05] :D [08:05] yw [08:05] enjoy! === perlmonkey does a monkey dance i [08:07] omg it's balmer [08:07] haha steve balmer style [08:08] I lost my sound :-/ [08:09] :'( [08:09] fix the settings === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:24] DaveMorris, i'm here [08:24] i've had errands i've been running all morning [08:24] so i just got back to my machine [08:25] morning superm1_ [08:25] well afternoon now :) [08:25] but hi [08:26] yes, i'm working on the password stuff, no worries [08:26] haha [08:26] i wasn't worried yet :) [08:26] :) [08:26] there are lots of small things that need to be taken care of [08:26] superm1_ : i should have time for testing today === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:26] which image needs tested? [08:26] majoridiot, ooh good. [08:27] well let me think which one isn't broke [08:27] because lately i broke a lot of them [08:27] hehe [08:27] majoridiot, could you hold off a bit, i'll do a rebuild with last night's changes, and hopefully you can just test off the current one that i've got then [08:28] i think i might have restabalized it [08:28] at your discretion... [08:28] i just know you needed testing and today i have time [08:28] all day or just for a bit? === majoridiot shut off his cellphone [08:28] or can it be localized for later? [08:28] pretty much all day :) [08:29] okay good good. i'll kick off a rebuild of ubiquity and try these out. otherwise i'll have you downloading 2-4 gigs of images trying to find the last stable one :) [08:29] i need to move the osx hd from the testbox to the backend... other than that, i'm good to go whenever. === majoridiot prefers the most stable [08:29] :P [08:30] majoridiot, you saw my mail about us getting the forums correct? [08:30] just replied. :) [08:30] VG news [08:30] ah [08:31] i'm hoping to have time to code some more firewire tools today, too... that project had to be put on hold as well. [08:31] i was gonna ask what happened with that too [08:31] well won't have to worry about maintaining the forums for at least another 1-2 months [08:31] until we can announce beta [08:31] i'm thinking at least 1-2 more alphas next month followed by beta in august [08:32] that timing is much better for me [08:33] laga, i didn't get to set up my ccache'd pbuilder yet - did it speed things up for you? [08:33] made great progress on the fw project until everything went sideways a few weeks ago... haven't had the time or energy for anything beyond thinking about it. but there's a plan to work. [08:34] did you end up recruiting the other guys you were looking for? [08:34] superm1_: havent tried it either [08:34] too little time to get anything done correctly [08:34] laga, fell asleep last night while i was waiting for a test build :) [08:34] superm1_: no recruits yet... still working alone. [08:35] didn't you find some folks with interest in said project though? [08:35] one guy that is helping with research... but nobody with the needed skillz, yet. [08:35] still a lot of background to cover before that is critical. === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:38] superm1_: looks like the ubuntu guys will work on their own solution to the mysql root problem. [08:38] in bug 119075 [08:38] Launchpad bug 119075 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "Root password policy for mysql" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119075 [08:38] ubuntu guys? [08:39] ah [08:54] laga, so what do you think is the best approach re: that mysql password issue then, just let them sort out the entire thing? [08:56] for now, yes [08:56] i'm busy enough as it is [08:58] well hopefully you don't lose too much sleep on this mythweb thing [08:59] na, i won't [08:59] i just wanna do it properly ;) === majoridiot wonders what fun there is in that [09:00] well [09:00] that is the fun part [09:01] ;) [09:01] i'm a student, so i'm not used to doing things properly === majoridiot understands [09:02] hehe [09:19] superm1_: we can still use the "debian-sys-maint" to initialize the database, it doesn't have to be root [09:20] laga, thats a good point [09:20] superm1_: ok... i have the osx drive pulled and the testbox running again. i can drop it in the backend and test whenever you are ready. [09:20] majoridiot, okay. still yet tracking down a big annoyance in a template [09:21] i'll let you know when i've got it [09:21] k [09:28] heh [09:29] nice. aptitude purge mythweb stills fails with "subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 128", but running "sudo sh -e /var/lib/dpkg/info/mythweb.postrm purge" works fine === hugol1 [n=jo@89.129.149.252] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Hugol2 [n=jo@89.129.149.252] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:37] "128" equals "invalid argument to exit" [09:38] i don't understand it. *sigh* [09:39] does it purge but error on exit or just error? === Hugol2 [n=jo@89.129.149.252] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.149.252] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:42] majoridiot: the package content is still there on the file system [09:42] hm. [09:42] i'll upload some logs [09:43] http://www.pastebin.ca/586332 [09:43] ^^ that's the postrm [09:44] http://www.pastebin.ca/586334 [09:44] ^^that's the aptitude log === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:52] laga, does the reload fail? [09:52] superm1_: it shouldn't matter since it's using || true [09:52] i'll append || true to the apache_reload call [09:53] well you need to identify where things are failing [09:53] adding a lot of echo's [09:53] around statements [09:53] will help [09:53] ah, thanks [09:53] i'll try that [09:53] basic debugging techniques :) [10:01] i believe the error stems from the db_purge command. apache2 reloads fine. [10:01] i'll investigate tomorrow, gotta get ready now [10:07] k [10:07] cu [10:07] oddly enough the error i'm trying to debug stems from a debconf file with an exit code i dont like either, 10 [10:07]