[12:27] <laga> superm1: which debconf priority do i actually have to use in ubuntu/mythbuntu to get my questions to appear?
[12:28] <superm1> oh lets see
[12:28] <superm1> i think medium or high
[12:28] <superm1> take a look at mythtv-frontend.preinst
[12:28] <laga> high doesn't work on my feisty install, but it's a server install
[12:28] <laga> ok
[12:28] <superm1> and see the priority its got
[12:28] <superm1> that shows up every time that debconf frontend other than noninteractive is available
[12:32] <laga> do you meanmythtv-common.config?
[12:32] <superm1> not having them in front of me - possibly :)
[12:32] <laga> heh
[12:32] <laga> seems to be "low"
[12:33] <laga> well
[12:33] <superm1> low?
[12:33] <superm1> well then you've got me - i'll have to see later on
[12:33] <superm1> what has to be done for them to show
[12:33] <laga> doesn't make sense, huh?
[12:34] <laga> needs to be "critical" here.. but .. well..
[12:34] <laga> beer and my sinusses are making my brains weak :)
[12:34] <superm1> well clearly critical isn't what it should be
[12:34] <laga> it's possible my install is broken...
[12:34] <laga> i'll try it in a VM later
[12:35] <superm1> i'll add it to my  ever growing list of things to see tonight :)
[12:35] <laga> heh
[12:35] <laga> i've got 20 minutes left till the $GF comes
[12:35] <superm1> well figure it out fast then :)
[12:36] <superm1> although thats not the most critical thing that it shows
[12:36] <superm1> as long as there is code to enable it via dpkg-reconfigure
[12:36] <laga> yes
[12:36] <laga> the postrm seems to give me trouble... and a debconf template seems to be broken
[12:36] <laga> but that's not critical
[02:04] <superm1> keescook, did the bzr changes look good this time around ?
[02:08] <keescook> was going to look shortly, but currently fighting with celestia
[02:09] <superm1> fun fun :)
[02:09] <superm1> keescook, do you know the proper way to work with a bzr branch and many people?  Should everyone have the branch "bound" to the parent?
[02:09] <superm1> and then bzr update?
[02:09] <superm1> before making their commits
[02:11] <keescook> superm1: I've seen a number of ways to work on a branch.
[02:11] <keescook> with lots of people, I think its easier for everyone to have their own branches
[02:11] <superm1> i guess i'm just wondering the cleanest way to do it
[02:12] <keescook> and then one person does the merging and push to the "central" branch
[02:12] <superm1> with say 3 or 4 people who would be changing something here and there
[02:12] <keescook> I'm still new to it, but I've seen both styles.
[02:12] <superm1> so then the person who does the merges, do they have to make a copy of the additional branch?
[02:12] <superm1> and then bzr merge DIR2 when inside the branch they are merging to?
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121820 in mythbuntu "Mythbuntu failed installation" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121820
[05:20] <superm1> DaveMorris, you didn't tell me that all these LaTeX packages were 137MB of downloads!
[05:40] <superm1> DaveMorris, just got the docs built, overall looks like its headed in a very good direction
[05:40] <superm1> i like the images at the bottom there showing off connections :)
[06:29] <Xenocide> superm1, ya there?
[10:44] <kruuli> man im hangover :<
[11:00] <reclusivemonkey> kruuli: Hair of the dog?
[12:05] <Morgennebel> Hello
[12:16] <DaveMorris> superm1: I didn't know how big the packages where!
[12:16] <DaveMorris> superm1: I wanted to leave the user with no doubt over what they where doing, so I'm prob gonna talk about the different PAL formats as well
[12:16] <DaveMorris> and I might even talk about DVI, HDMI, VGA
[12:17] <kruuli> reclusivemonkey: dont know if i know what that means :p
[12:18] <kruuli> i found something great yesterday .. im already using XBMC on my old xbox .. found a python script that makes the xbox to a frontend :D
[12:18] <reclusivemonkey> hi kruuli, Its a hangover "cure" which consists of having a small amount of the alcohol you drank to get your hangover in the first place. Can be tricky if you were mixing your drinks ;-)
[12:18] <kruuli> using just that script and xbmc :>
[12:19] <kruuli> reclusivemonkey haha .. yeah i was .. whiskey vodka beer will be drunk by the time i finish the "cure" :D
[12:20] <reclusivemonkey> kruuli: lol, yeah maybe not the best cure in this case...
[12:43] <blitzcoder> Hi. I use Ubuntu an try to install MythTV, but it doenst work. when I wnat to run setup, It just throws a SegFault (Core Comped)
[12:44] <blitzcoder> Dumped*
[12:55] <blitzcoder> Any Idea?
[12:58] <laga> what does it say in the terminal?
[01:02] <blitzcoder> Mom, i'll post the Complete output
[01:03] <blitzcoder> http://nopaste.info/681f9f2223.html
[01:03] <blitzcoder> Same when I start normal mythtv
[01:04] <blitzcoder> Maybe he has Problems with my 2 Screens+Xinerama
[01:04] <laga> interesting
[01:05] <laga> please start mythtv-setup -v all
[01:05] <blitzcoder> Wahoo
[01:05] <blitzcoder> http://nopaste.info/88a9f26a13.html
[01:06] <blitzcoder> Just a few MySQl Querys
[01:06] <laga> hm
[01:06] <blitzcoder> Hm, he asked me to Fill the DB
[01:06] <blitzcoder> It semms he didn't
[01:07] <laga> who's "he"?
[01:07] <laga> blitzcoder: try mythtv-setup -O ThemePainter=qt to see if it helps
[01:09] <blitzcoder> Hm. No.
[01:11] <blitzcoder> My I try the CVS/SVN Version?
[01:11] <blitzcoder> May*
[01:17] <blitzcoder> Hm, I'll try to Compile it
[01:17] <blitzcoder> Any Idea how long does it take?
[01:17] <blitzcoder> Intel P4 3,0
[03:26] <perlmonkey> hi
[03:26] <perlmonkey> does anyone run mythtv under Feisty? I'm having a problem, just installed mythtv but the mythtv-setup prog runs everytime I start mythfrontend. any ideas?
[03:26] <DaveMorris> Your using gnome?
[03:27] <DaveMorris> System -> Preferences -> Sessions then disable the mythtv program by clicking on the box
[03:30] <perlmonkey> I'm running xfce4
[03:31] <DaveMorris> oh sorry, I jsut re read your post
[03:31] <DaveMorris> mythtv-setup runs
[03:31] <laga> he's gone
[03:31] <laga> and so am i :) ttyl
[03:31] <DaveMorris> l8rs
[03:32] <perlmonkey> sorry, mythtv-setup crashed my X session
[03:32] <laga> i'll start sshd on this box so i can keep working on the packages
[03:33] <perlmonkey> DaveMorris: what was that advice you gave earlier
[03:35] <perlmonkey> is it normal for X to restart each time mythtv-setup runs?
[03:36] <perlmonkey> Jun 23 14:31:06 kayak gdm[7590] : gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0
[03:36] <perlmonkey> Jun 23 14:13:25 kayak gconfd (paul-7260): Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly
[03:45] <DaveMorris> perlmonkey: I read your post wrong :(
[03:46] <DaveMorris> mythtv-setup will run each time if it can't connect to a database
[03:46] <DaveMorris> s/database/backend
[03:46] <DaveMorris> are you running the backend on the same machine as the frontend?
[03:48] <perlmonkey> sorry
[03:48] <perlmonkey> DaveMorris: thanks thats very helpful Dave, I think I solved it based on what you said
[03:48] <perlmonkey> yes
[03:49] <perlmonkey> I got the backend running now finally
[03:49] <perlmonkey> I'm about to try the frontend, but it usually starts mythtv-setup and then crashes my X
[03:49] <perlmonkey> maybe now the backend is running it will be ok *fingers crossed*
[03:53] <DaveMorris> are you using dual screens?
[03:54] <perlmonkey> still no lack starting frontend, always starts mythtv-setup and then crashes X on closing
[03:54] <perlmonkey> nah
[03:54] <perlmonkey> *luck
[03:54] <DaveMorris> do you have another linux machine on your network?
[03:54] <perlmonkey> ya, my setup is like this:
[03:55] <perlmonkey> server box (running mysql)  client box running mythtv backend and frontend, no connection to tv
[03:55] <perlmonkey> my mythtv folder is mounted on server using nfs
[03:56] <DaveMorris> ok, the backend exects the mysql db to be on the local machine
[03:56] <perlmonkey> my aim is to have 3 frontends and one backend connected to tv
[03:58] <DaveMorris> so your server box is exporting via NFS where your recordings are gonna get saved.  It also has the mysql DB.
[03:58] <DaveMorris> The backend mounts the NFS
[03:59] <DaveMorris> superm1: you awake yet?
[04:00] <perlmonkey> yes
[04:00] <DaveMorris> why can't you run the DB on your backend?
[04:00] <perlmonkey> I had this setup working fine until I moved to Ubuntu
[04:00] <perlmonkey> and now its all screwed
[04:01] <perlmonkey> well I thought it better to use the mysql I already had installed
[04:01] <perlmonkey> because that server is always on, and is accessible to all frontends then
[04:01] <DaveMorris> but the frontends also need the backend to be running
[04:02] <perlmonkey> sorry
[04:02] <DaveMorris> My server has the backend on it
[04:02] <perlmonkey> i mean, the mysql server is accessible to both backends then
[04:02] <perlmonkey> as I have two backends
[04:02] <perlmonkey> one master and one secondary
[04:02] <DaveMorris> ok
[04:02] <DaveMorris> I'm not sure how that can be setup, however do you get any error messages when mythtv-setup crashes?
[04:02] <perlmonkey> one is for cable and one is for regular tv
[04:03] <perlmonkey> all I get is this:
[04:03] <DaveMorris> have you tried forwarding X to another machine and doing it that way?
[04:04] <perlmonkey> Jun 23 14:52:26 kayak gconfd (paul-8509): Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly
[04:04] <perlmonkey> Jun 23 14:52:28 kayak gdm[8428] : gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0
[04:04] <perlmonkey> I haven't tried that, might be an idea
[04:05] <DaveMorris> you know how to do it?
[04:05] <perlmonkey> I dunno how :-/
[04:06] <perlmonkey> that would be useful to know
[04:06] <DaveMorris> ssh -X userid@ip/hostname
[04:07] <DaveMorris> then 'mythtv-setup' but it'll be a tad slow as its alot of data to encrypt
[04:07] <perlmonkey> thanks :)
[04:10] <perlmonkey> grrrr crashed X again
[04:11] <DaveMorris> tbh I've only used gnome, so it might just be an issue with Xfce
[04:11] <perlmonkey> could be yes
[04:13] <DaveMorris> my server has gnome installed, but set not to start by default
[05:48] <perlmonkey> strange
[05:48] <perlmonkey> mythbackend starts but is not showing in ps list and no error is reported
[05:49] <laga> take a look at the log files
[05:50] <perlmonkey> no error reported in mythtv log
[05:51] <perlmonkey> something weird going on
[05:51] <laga> backend log?
[05:53] <perlmonkey> ya
[05:55] <perlmonkey> damnit
[05:55] <laga> ?
[05:55] <perlmonkey> its trying to connect on localhost instead of the server IP i entered in mysql.txt in /etc/mythtv
[05:55] <perlmonkey> why does it ignore it
[05:55] <laga> ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt might take precedence
[05:56] <perlmonkey> ah
[05:57] <perlmonkey> I copied my mysql.txt there and verified, and restarted backend, made no difference :-/
[05:57] <perlmonkey> still its trying on localhost
[05:57] <laga> what is it trying on localhost
[05:58] <perlmonkey> Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'kayak' (using password: YES)
[05:59] <laga> huh?
[05:59] <perlmonkey> QSqlQuery::exec: database not open
[05:59] <perlmonkey> 2007-06-23 16:50:05.780 DB Error (KickDatabase):
[05:59] <perlmonkey> :-/
[05:59] <perlmonkey> do you understand it?
[06:00] <perlmonkey> Query was: SELECT NULL;
[06:00] <laga> there is not "localhost".
[06:00] <perlmonkey> 2007-06-23 16:50:05.847 Failed to init MythContext, exiting.
[06:00] <perlmonkey> kayak = machine I'm using to run backend on
[06:01] <perlmonkey> my mysql server is on magnia
[06:01] <laga> hm
[06:01] <perlmonkey> DBHostName=192.168.1.1
[06:01] <perlmonkey> :-/
[06:02] <perlmonkey> what more can I do
[06:02] <laga> does 192.168.1.1 point to magnia?
[06:02] <perlmonkey> yup
[06:03] <perlmonkey> but why is mythbackend trying to connect to mysql on kayak
[06:03] <perlmonkey> when its been told to use the IP of magnia
[06:03] <laga> maybe there is another mysql.txt
[06:03] <laga> use updatedb and locate
[06:05] <perlmonkey> ok
[06:05] <perlmonkey> good plan
[06:05] <perlmonkey> my brain is more fried than one of them chicken nuggets at KFC
[06:06] <laga> been drinking?
[06:07] <perlmonkey> phew 7 copies
[06:07] <perlmonkey> no i dont touch the stuff
[06:07] <laga> crack?
[06:07] <laga> ;)
[06:07] <laga> my brain feels fried, too
[06:08] <laga> stupid cold and i'm in a meeting, writing articles for our student year book
[06:08] <perlmonkey> haha
[06:08] <perlmonkey> ahh
[06:12] <perlmonkey> still wont run, stupid thing
[06:13] <perlmonkey> still trying to connect on localserver, ignoring all of the 7 identical copies of mysql.txt
[06:13] <perlmonkey> *throws hands up in air*
[06:13] <laga> :(
[06:13] <laga> that's odd
[06:13] <perlmonkey> illogical
[06:14] <perlmonkey> maybe i shud just remove everything and start over
[06:14] <laga> sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force mythtv-database
[06:14] <laga> try that
[06:14] <perlmonkey> thanks
[07:43] <perlmonkey> grrrr
[07:43] <perlmonkey> does anyone know the password for user mythtv
[07:44] <majoridiot> for mysql?
[07:44] <perlmonkey> ya
[07:44] <perlmonkey> well the system password
[07:44] <laga>  /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[07:44] <laga> oh
[07:44] <perlmonkey> to login to X
[07:44] <laga> there is none, afaik
[07:45] <perlmonkey> how do you login to X then as mythtv
[07:45] <majoridiot> login as your normal user, not mythv
[07:45] <perlmonkey> but the instructions on Ubuntu howto are telling me to login as mythtv user
[07:45] <majoridiot> paste a link
[07:46] <perlmonkey> if I login as normal user I can't run mythtv-setup or it goes mental
[07:46] <perlmonkey> ok
[07:46] <perlmonkey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Feisty_Backend_Frontend_Desktop_O
[07:47] <majoridiot> which step?
[07:47] <perlmonkey> "You must run mythtv-setup as the "mythtv" user in order to complete mythtv configuration"
[07:47] <perlmonkey> under Configuring mythtv-backend
[07:47] <perlmonkey> says
[07:48] <majoridiot> have you completed installation or still installing?
[07:48] <perlmonkey> Note that this program requires an X display, so you must either login to an X session as the "mythtv" user, or otherwise arrange for that user to have access to your X display.
[07:48] <perlmonkey> still installing
[07:48] <majoridiot> ignore that and continue
[07:48] <majoridiot> ;)
[07:48] <majoridiot> seriously.
[07:49] <majoridiot> (it all fixes itself)
[07:49] <perlmonkey> I can't get any further tho  :-/
[07:49] <perlmonkey> backend refuses to start and fires up mythtv-setup everytime
[07:50] <perlmonkey> and since its not running as mythtv user it seems unable to access the right settings or write a txt file
[07:50] <perlmonkey> im caught in a loop
[07:50] <majoridiot> sec
[07:51] <perlmonkey> do you think it might be because I am not running mysql on same server as backend?
[07:52] <majoridiot> uh... yeah. that's an important thing to note.
[07:52] <perlmonkey> well I have mysql running
[07:52] <majoridiot> *rolls his eyes*
[07:52] <perlmonkey> but I dont want to connect to that server, I want to use my old mysql server db
[07:52] <majoridiot> k
[07:52] <perlmonkey> is it possible?
[07:52] <majoridiot> do you know the password to your old DB?
[07:53] <perlmonkey> yeah
[07:53] <majoridiot> k
[07:53] <perlmonkey> i kept the mysql.txt file
[07:53] <majoridiot> run mythtv-setup
[07:53] <perlmonkey> ok
[07:53] <majoridiot> enter the address of the server running the DB
[07:53] <perlmonkey> I tried that and it has the right details to the old DB
[07:53] <majoridiot> and the appropriate info for that db... password, etc.
[07:53] <perlmonkey> but it just doesnt seem to be able to use them for some reason
[07:53] <perlmonkey> backend reports: Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'kayak' (using password: YES)
[07:54] <perlmonkey> its still lookin locally for db
[07:54] <perlmonkey> kayak = machine backend is on, not my mysql server
[07:54] <perlmonkey> oh wait
[07:54] <perlmonkey> that doesn't mean it does it
[07:55] <perlmonkey> that means mytv @ machine kayak, cud not login to mysql server eh
[07:55] <perlmonkey> doesnt mean, mysql server @ kayak?
[07:55] <majoridiot> correct
[07:55] <perlmonkey> phew
[07:55] <perlmonkey> I better double check my pw
[07:56] <majoridiot> also...
[07:57] <perlmonkey> woah
[07:57] <perlmonkey> password was wrong
[07:57] <perlmonkey> majoridiot you'e a genius, thanks a lot man
[07:57] <majoridiot> make sure that /etc/mysql/my.cnf on the machine running the DB you want to use has "bind-address= 127.0.0.1" commented out with a hash (restart the db if needed)
[07:57] <perlmonkey> 3 hrs been fighting it
[07:57] <laga> o_O
[07:57] <majoridiot> :) glad you got it going, dude!
[07:58] <perlmonkey> laga thanks too earlier
[07:58] <perlmonkey> sorry for leading on a wild goose chase, simple things can be overlooked eh
[07:58] <laga> hehe
[07:58] <majoridiot> yup.
[07:58] <majoridiot> easy to do.
[07:58] <perlmonkey> phew i wonder i will be able to access all my old recordings and stuff now
[07:59] <majoridiot> should be able to.
[07:59] <perlmonkey> i initially installed mythtv under Debian and Ive since switched to Ubuntu, but all my mythtv stuff was on a separate hdd which has remained untouched
[07:59] <perlmonkey> should be ok eh
[07:59] <majoridiot> unless you moved the drive with the recordings to another machine.
[07:59] <perlmonkey> nah its still here
[08:00] <majoridiot> should be fine, then.
[08:00] <perlmonkey> and slightly full ;-)
[08:05] <perlmonkey> woah its all working
[08:05] <perlmonkey> thanks guys!
[08:05] <majoridiot> :D
[08:05] <majoridiot> yw
[08:05] <majoridiot> enjoy!
[08:07] <laga> omg it's balmer
[08:07] <perlmonkey> haha steve balmer style
[08:08] <perlmonkey> I lost my sound :-/
[08:09] <laga> :'(
[08:09] <majoridiot> fix the settings
[08:24] <superm1_> DaveMorris, i'm here
[08:24] <superm1_> i've had errands i've been running all morning
[08:24] <superm1_> so i just got back to my machine
[08:25] <laga> morning superm1_
[08:25] <superm1_> well afternoon now :)
[08:25] <superm1_> but hi
[08:26] <laga> yes, i'm working on the password stuff, no worries
[08:26] <superm1_> haha
[08:26] <superm1_> i wasn't worried yet :)
[08:26] <laga> :)
[08:26] <laga> there are lots of small things that need to be taken care of
[08:26] <majoridiot> superm1_ : i should have time for testing today
[08:26] <majoridiot> which image needs tested?
[08:26] <superm1_> majoridiot, ooh good.
[08:27] <superm1_> well let me think which one isn't broke
[08:27] <superm1_> because lately i broke a lot of them
[08:27] <majoridiot> hehe
[08:27] <superm1_> majoridiot, could you hold off a bit, i'll do a rebuild with last night's changes, and hopefully you can just test off the current one that i've got then
[08:28] <superm1_> i think i might have restabalized it
[08:28] <majoridiot> at your discretion...
[08:28] <majoridiot> i just know you needed testing and today i have time
[08:28] <superm1_> all day or just for a bit?
[08:28] <superm1_> or can it be localized for later?
[08:28] <majoridiot> pretty much all day :)
[08:29] <superm1_> okay good good.  i'll kick off a rebuild of ubiquity and try these out.  otherwise i'll have you downloading 2-4 gigs of images trying to find the last stable one :)
[08:29] <majoridiot> i need to move the osx hd from the testbox to the backend... other than that, i'm good to go whenever.
[08:29] <majoridiot> :P
[08:30] <superm1_> majoridiot, you saw my mail about us getting the forums correct?
[08:30] <majoridiot> just replied. :)
[08:30] <majoridiot> VG news
[08:30] <superm1_> ah
[08:31] <majoridiot> i'm hoping to have time to code some more firewire tools today, too... that project had to be put on hold as well.
[08:31] <superm1_> i was gonna ask what happened with that too
[08:31] <superm1_> well won't have to worry about maintaining the forums for at least another 1-2 months
[08:31] <superm1_> until we can announce beta
[08:31] <superm1_> i'm thinking at least 1-2 more alphas next month followed by beta in august
[08:32] <majoridiot> that timing is much better for me
[08:33] <superm1_> laga, i didn't get to set up my ccache'd pbuilder yet - did it speed things up for you?
[08:33] <majoridiot> made great progress on the fw project until everything went sideways a few weeks ago... haven't had the time or energy for anything beyond thinking about it.  but there's a plan to work.
[08:34] <superm1_> did you end up recruiting the other guys you were looking for?
[08:34] <laga> superm1_: havent tried it either
[08:34] <laga> too little time to get anything done correctly
[08:34] <superm1_> laga, fell asleep last night while i was waiting for a test build :)
[08:34] <majoridiot> superm1_: no recruits yet... still working alone.
[08:35] <superm1_> didn't you find some folks with interest in said project though?
[08:35] <majoridiot> one guy that is helping with research... but nobody with the needed skillz, yet.
[08:35] <majoridiot> still a lot of background to cover before that is critical.
[08:38] <laga> superm1_: looks like the ubuntu guys will work on their own solution to the mysql root problem.
[08:38] <laga> in bug 119075
[08:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119075 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "Root password policy for mysql" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119075
[08:38] <superm1_> ubuntu guys?
[08:39] <superm1_> ah
[08:54] <superm1_> laga, so what do you think is the best approach re: that mysql password issue then,  just let them sort out the entire thing?
[08:56] <laga> for now, yes
[08:56] <laga> i'm busy enough as it is
[08:58] <superm1_> well hopefully you don't lose too much sleep on this mythweb thing
[08:59] <laga> na, i won't
[08:59] <laga> i just wanna do it properly ;)
[09:00] <laga> well
[09:00] <laga> that is the fun part
[09:01] <majoridiot> ;)
[09:01] <laga> i'm a student, so i'm not used to doing things properly
[09:02] <majoridiot> hehe
[09:19] <laga> superm1_: we can still use the "debian-sys-maint" to initialize the database, it doesn't have to be root
[09:20] <superm1_> laga, thats a good point
[09:20] <majoridiot> superm1_: ok... i have the osx drive pulled and the testbox running again.  i can drop it in the backend and test whenever you are ready.
[09:20] <superm1_> majoridiot, okay.  still yet tracking down a big annoyance in a template
[09:21] <superm1_> i'll let you know when i've got it
[09:21] <majoridiot> k
[09:28] <laga> heh
[09:29] <laga> nice. aptitude purge mythweb stills fails with "subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 128", but running "sudo sh -e /var/lib/dpkg/info/mythweb.postrm purge" works fine
[09:37] <laga> "128" equals "invalid argument to exit"
[09:38] <laga> i don't understand it. *sigh*
[09:39] <majoridiot> does it purge but error on exit or just error?
[09:42] <laga> majoridiot: the package content is still there on the file system
[09:42] <majoridiot> hm.
[09:42] <laga> i'll upload some logs
[09:43] <laga> http://www.pastebin.ca/586332
[09:43] <laga> ^^ that's the postrm
[09:44] <laga> http://www.pastebin.ca/586334
[09:44] <laga> ^^that's the aptitude log
[09:52] <superm1_> laga, does the reload fail?
[09:52] <laga> superm1_: it shouldn't matter since it's using || true
[09:52] <laga> i'll append || true to the apache_reload call
[09:53] <superm1_> well you need to identify where things are failing
[09:53] <superm1_> adding a lot of echo's
[09:53] <superm1_> around statements
[09:53] <superm1_> will help
[09:53] <laga> ah, thanks
[09:53] <laga> i'll try that
[09:53] <laga> basic debugging techniques :)
[10:01] <laga> i believe the error stems from the db_purge command. apache2 reloads fine.
[10:01] <laga> i'll investigate tomorrow, gotta get ready now
[10:07] <superm1_> k
[10:07] <superm1_> cu
[10:07] <superm1_> oddly enough the error i'm trying to debug stems from a debconf file with an exit code i dont like either, 10
[10:07] <superm1_> whatever that represents
[10:18] <laga> heh
[11:59] <DaveMorris> superm1_: you around?
[12:00] <superm1_> ys
[12:00] <superm1_> +e
[12:00] <DaveMorris> what licence did you want the install docs etc under?
[12:00] <superm1_> probably easiest to go GPL
[12:00] <DaveMorris> GPL for documentation?  Can you do that?
[12:01] <superm1_> you can do it for artwork
[12:02] <majoridiot> -th
[12:03] <DaveMorris> We'll need to take some photo's of the connection types then for a GPL licence
[12:03] <DaveMorris> to replace the ones from wikipedia
[12:04] <superm1_> what is the license on those?
[12:04] <superm1_> creative commons?
[12:04] <DaveMorris> CC I think
[12:04] <superm1_> well i'm not tied to GPL, CC might be easier in that respect
[12:04] <superm1_> i've just worked with it more
[12:06] <DaveMorris> Our install manual is gonna end up at over 100 pages me thinks
[12:06] <superm1_> omg
[12:06] <superm1_> erally?
[12:07] <DaveMorris> yeah with all the different ways you can install
[12:07] <majoridiot> there's a LOT to cover.
[12:07] <DaveMorris> I've currently got 30 pages
[12:07] <superm1_> well luckily if its broken up right, things can be re-included
[12:07] <superm1_> in different sections
[12:08] <superm1_> similar to how majoridiot has the h.u.c pages now
[12:08] <DaveMorris> yeah, also with the screen shots its not much text per page
[12:08] <DaveMorris> h.u.c. pages?
[12:08] <superm1_> !mythtv
[12:08] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[12:08] <majoridiot> hehe
[12:09] <DaveMorris> majoridiot: ok if I still stuff from there?
[12:09] <DaveMorris> s/still/steal
[12:12] <majoridiot> it's not stealing
[12:12] <majoridiot> have at it
[12:12] <majoridiot> :)