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ScuniziI'm trying to install xubuntu desktop.  During the install it freezes at 78%.  256meg ram. p4 2ghz, ide drive.. Anyone experience this or know of a solution?01:26
viddScunizi, you doing live cd or alt?01:29
Scunizilive01:30
viddwhat does it say its installing?01:30
Scunizijust a sec. I'll look01:30
viddand do you have a live connection to the internet?01:30
viddmake that does IT have a live....01:31
Scuniziconnection yes.. verified with FF. configuring system locales..01:31
viddit might not be frozen....01:31
Scunizi20 minutes at the same spot01:32
viddevery time it updates a font, it must re-initialize them all....01:32
Scuniziand the mouse quit working01:32
viddand that does take a while01:32
Scunizik01:32
ScuniziI don't even see any drive activity, HD or CD01:32
=== vidd usually does the alt cd...
viddive found less trouble that way01:33
Scunizime too in the past. however when I tried that with ubuntu fiesty it messed with my other partitions.. Desktop didn't01:33
viddbut if you have a live connection to the internet, you might want to do the mini iso....01:33
viddits tiny, and gets everything from the internet01:34
ScuniziI didn't know there was one..01:34
viddhaha....01:34
Scunizigot a link?01:34
viddthere is a copy somewhere in the ubuntu archives....01:34
Scunizilooking now01:34
Scunizihow bout just installing server then xubuntu-desktop?01:34
viddbut i put it on my downloads page....cuzz i always have trouble finding it01:35
viddScunizi, that will work too01:35
viddi have the mini @ http://www.vidd.us/downloads01:35
Scunizicool.. I may have to try that.. I'm fixing a machine for a friend..I had it going fine with ubuntu then he had ram problems.. Now I'm redoing it.. Thanks for hte link.01:36
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vidd*another shameless plug*01:37
vidd=] 01:37
Scunizividd, what did you have to do to create your download site.. I tried it on a dapper server install I have and it just timed out when trying to download something.01:37
viddScunizi, as far as your install stalling...IDK01:38
ScuniziIDK?01:38
Scunizigot it01:38
Scunizii don't know01:38
Scuniziright?01:38
viddyeah01:38
viddyour having an issue with MY download page?01:38
viddor with yours?01:38
Scunizino mine01:39
viddah...01:39
Scunizido you have to have a funcitonal ftp server up and running?01:39
viddwant me to pastebin my downloads index page?01:39
viddyeah01:39
Scunizithat's what I've been struggling with is the ftp portion.01:40
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viddhrm...i think my downloads page worked without FTP installed....01:40
Scunizimine did locally but not outside the network01:40
dan40test01:41
Scuniziserver's down right now.. and my honey do list is long today..01:41
vidddan40, your here01:41
viddScunizi, haha01:41
ScuniziThanks guys!  see ya later.01:41
dan40cool, thanks vidd. Can you guys help me with a Samba question. I am using Xubuntu01:41
viddScunizi, my server is co-located...so idn01:42
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raymondi cant get cd burning to work :(01:42
viddask away dan40 , if I dont know the answer, someone here will01:42
vidd=] 01:42
viddraymond, are you trying to burn an ISO with xfburn?01:42
dan40thanks. Well its been many years since I used linux. Back then I started Samba but it was all in the terminal and not using GUI. Plus I don't hardly remember how I did anything. So the question is how do I browse windows machines across my network using Samba and Xubuntu. I have already loaded the package when it prompted me under Shared Folders.01:44
vidddan40, i never used samba...i prefer to make my network users use ftp on my local network....but i believ you need to install something like pynetworkneighborhood01:46
viddsorry...pyneighborhood01:47
dan40hmm. let me have a look at the packages to see if I can find it.01:47
viddwith just samba windows machine can see you, with pyneighborhood, you can see the windows machines01:47
viddits in universe01:48
dan40Yes that would be good01:48
raymondi tried using xfburn to copy, make an iso and burn an iso01:49
raymondno go01:49
viddraymond, at present, that is a known issue.....01:49
raymondthought it was the burner so swapped it out with a known good01:49
raymondsame problem01:49
viddyou will need to either use the command line tools, or install a heftier package like gnomebaker01:49
raymondive tried brasero01:50
raymondsame problem01:50
dan40vidd: thanks that looks like exactly what I need01:50
viddraymond, try gnomebaker....xfburn and brasero did not work for me either...but gnomebaker did01:51
raymondok will try01:53
viddraymond, let me know =] 01:53
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dan40vidd: Thanks for your help so far. I don't know if you can answer this since you don't use Samba. That pyneighborhood works fine and is exactly wh"unable to mount"01:56
dan40poop. my message got cut..hehe01:56
viddyou cant mount a windows dive?01:57
dan40I can see the machines. It recognizes all the machines on my network but when I click on a folder then it says " unable to mount"01:57
dan40i can access the machines via Windows XP so I know they work. Does it matter that the drives are NTFS and not ext3?01:59
viddi believe it does....01:59
dan40aw man..thats like how it was 6 years ago...I thought maybe things had changed.02:00
viddthere is a package somewhere that allows you to read/rite to ntfs files and drives02:00
viddlet me look....02:00
dan40k02:02
viddcheck out ntfsprogs02:03
raymondsuccess with gnomebaker02:04
raymond!!!YAY!!!02:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yay!!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:04
viddraymond, awesome02:04
vidddan40, i think its in main02:04
dan40vidd: looking at it right nwo02:04
dan40now..even02:04
viddtwisted finger syndrome strikes again dan40 !02:05
dan40fat fingers :(02:05
vidddan40, that was definantly TWISTED finger.....02:06
viddrthisd is fat finger!02:06
vidd=] 02:06
dan40heh yeah your right02:07
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=== TheSheep turns vidd's keyboard up side down
TheSheepand switches it to dvorak02:08
vidd;l33 ku[] 02:08
=== vidd swithes it back....
viddthat was strange!02:08
vidd=] 02:09
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=== vidd wonders if that would acually be a problem for linux.....
TheSheepno02:10
TheSheepyou can even connect two keyboards02:10
viddonly windows is too stupid to recognize which is wich?02:10
TheSheepyup02:11
viddXD02:11
vidddan40, did that help your issue?02:12
dan40vidd: I haven't installed that package yet. I am browsing the MANY pages of discussions on windows file sharing in the Ubuntu forums.02:13
vidddan40, check out THIS: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Windows02:14
dan40k.02:14
viddof course, you would substitue the network path for the drive path02:16
dan40btw, if anyone is interested. I am running Xubuntu on a 600Mhz laptop with very little memory and it runs just fine.02:17
alnoktadan40, pentium intel?02:18
dan40Yes, an old Compaq with a pentium...er II?02:19
raymondancient soyo micro atx with a 500mhz celeron02:19
dan40hmm, I am reading that article but it brings me back to the smbd.conf file. I was hoping all that stuff was now in the GUI.02:20
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vidddan40, i know that pyneighborhood makes quick work of fat32 shares...but i never even CONSIDERED fooling around with ntfs partions....02:22
viddthey only just recently been made accessable02:22
dan40hmm.02:22
dan40I will have to dig thru the forums. I mean I know I can't be the first person to want to pull stuff off a windows XP share before.02:23
vidddan40, no...im sure you are not....02:23
viddbut did you TRY the sugestion on that site i showed ya?02:24
viddya make a media point...02:24
viddsudo mkdir /media/windows/share102:24
viddfor example....02:25
viddthen sudo mount /path/to/network/share /media/windows/share1/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=022202:25
viddthen use thunar to view it02:26
viddand write to it...i guess02:26
dan40yeah. I read it. But everytime I use the terminal it feels like I am taking a step backwards in time. Like I am using DOS. I was hoping this had been resolved in the last few years.02:27
vidddan40, but does it WORK?02:27
dan40not that its that difficult..I'll try it.02:27
viddthe reason i ask is because you will only have to do this ONCE ....02:29
viddthen just edit the fstab to mpount the shares at boot02:29
dan40won't I have to mount it each time?02:29
viddnot if it works and then you add the points to fstab02:29
dan40ah ...yes more typing...:)02:29
dan40fstab.02:29
dan40hehe02:30
viddfstab = ? File System TABle?02:30
dan40I know it. You see how well I type...that might have something to do with me not liking to manual update config files02:31
=== vidd dunno
vidddeep breaths dan40 ! we;ll get ya thru it!02:32
dan40I need to go to my happy place02:32
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vidd8 machines and only 2 use M$...and i refuse to touch them anymore!02:33
dan40Well I live with a wife and a 7 yo . I can teach them Linux but they have been using Widows for years.02:34
viddwork on the 7yo....02:35
dan40Yeah, she is going to be quite the computer freak. I can feel it already.02:35
viddthere is hope for him(?)02:35
viddooppss her!02:35
dan40ok I feel like a total newb. I can't even mk the directory02:35
dan40{sigh}02:35
viddsorry...i was unclear....02:36
viddsudo mkdir /media/windows && sudo mkdir /media/windows/share102:36
viddyou have to make the /media/windows before you make /media/windows/share102:37
viddyou may have to seperate them into two different commands02:38
dan40doh...of course02:38
viddinstead of using the &&02:38
TheSheepvidd: or he could use install -d :)02:38
viddTheSheep, ??02:38
TheSheepvidd: man install02:38
dan40next...how do I figure out the path to the network drive?02:39
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vidddan40, that is simple....check thier properties in pyneighborhood02:40
vidd=] 02:40
viddbtw....do you have your networked machines with static IP's on your home network?02:41
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dan40yeah, I thought about that but its not showing any "properties" I do have an IP address but I am sure that will change over time since I am using DHCP02:41
=== vidd recomends that you asign your windows machines static IPs
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Mask1hi, how can i exit X to install NVIDIA drivers?02:43
dan40vidd: yeah I could do that. but I don't need to right now to mount the drive, do I?02:44
viddMask1, /etc/init.d/gdm stop02:44
vidddan40, no...but you DO need to knowe the ip address02:45
dan40yep. I have that. 192.168.11.402:45
Mask1thanks02:45
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nzkIs XFCE as nice as gnome? It looks exactly like it02:46
TheSheepnzk: it uses the same toolkit for display, so it looks similar02:47
vidddan40, ... im reading  man mount .... trying to find the right command for mounting a network reasoursew02:47
TheSheepvidd: mount -t smbfs path-to-the-resource directory02:48
dan40thanks for your ongoing assistance. This really should be easier if Linux wants more acceptance in the non-geek world02:48
nzkI am thinking of switching to XFCE on my brand-new computer which runs as if it's 10 years old on GNOME02:48
nzkCan I do it without reinstall?02:48
TheSheepdan40: it would be esier if there was no windows :P02:48
viddlol TheSheep02:48
dan40Xubuntu is by far the most user friendly Linux I have used.02:49
TheSheepnzk: yes, just install xubuntu-desktop and you will have an option on the login screen, (under sessions) to run either gnome or xfce02:49
dan40Point taken...TheSheep02:49
vidddan40, seriously... its NOT this hard with fat32 and ext3 reasourses02:49
nzkSame with KDE, right02:50
TheSheepwhat are you guys trying to do?02:50
nzk?02:50
viddgiven time pyneighborhood WILL support ntfs02:50
dan40yeah..but windows uses NTFS for pretty much everything now02:50
TheSheepnzk: go to synaptic package manager, search for 'xubuntu-desktop' and install it02:50
viddTheSheep, trying to make ntfs files hares available to read/write02:50
TheSheep!ntfs02:50
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse02:50
TheSheep!ntfs-3g02:51
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions02:51
TheSheepvidd: partitions or shares?02:51
nzkTheSheep, what happened to CLI or DIE?02:51
viddshares TheSheep02:51
dan40TheSheep: they are shares under windows02:51
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TheSheepnzk: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop02:51
TheSheepdan40: not drives?02:52
TaJMoXI really want to have an image for my bottom panel02:52
nzkThe only thing different is the DE, right?02:52
nzkShell, programs, etc. stay like they are?02:52
TheSheepTaJMoX: make or modify a gtk theme02:52
dan40well I can make the whole drive a share but really I only need some data folders within those drives.02:52
viddnzk, no...the apps are lighter in xubuntu02:52
nzkI mean I still have them, right?02:52
TaJMoXnzk : it also installs a bunch of xfce apps - hundreds of mb worth.   if you just want XFCE just install xfce4 package02:52
nzkMeh, it already downloaded everything02:53
TheSheepnzk: xubuntu includes stripped-down versions of some programs, and also uses different programs by defult02:53
TaJMoXnzk - yes you will have all your gnome stuff too02:53
viddnzk, yeah...if you install xubuntu-desktop and leave the other stuff intack02:53
TaJMoXTheSheep - I tried, I can't find any themes with image backgrounds to use as an example.   Can you recommend one?02:53
TheSheepdan40: I'm afraid you can only mount whole partitions under linux02:53
TheSheepTaJMoX: I think Murrina black has one02:54
TaJMoXthanks02:54
viddTheSheep, you know the command to mount the file share?02:54
TheSheepTaJMoX: nope, sorry02:54
TheSheepTaJMoX: it's neutronium02:55
TaJMoXthanks02:55
TheSheepTaJMoX: look ofr it at gnomelook.org02:55
dan40TheSheep: Basically I wanted to browse folders on my HTPC that contain  movies. Under windows I just go to my "Network Neighborhood" and the machines show up. I drill down and there are the shared folders. I was hoping there was some similar functionality under Linux02:56
TheSheepdan40: pyneighbourgood02:56
TheSheepdan40: pyneighbourhood02:56
TheSheepsoory02:56
viddTheSheep, but how do you get ntfs read/write ability?02:57
dan40TheSheep: yes I installed that at vidd's suggestion. Its exactly what I need but when I go to mount the folders, it says its unable to mount02:57
TheSheepvidd: that's something else02:57
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TheSheep!smb02:58
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:58
greg__how i set one key to be another?02:58
dan40I guess I don't really need write ability. Just the ability to drag and drop onto my desktop or a path to open them through VLC or whatever02:58
TheSheepdan40: you need smbfs installed02:58
TheSheepvidd: in this case, all that matters is that it's samba, it doesn't matter if it's ntfs or anything else02:59
dan40TheSheep: I am pretty sure that was installed when pyneighborhood was installed02:59
vidddan40, try to re-install it....02:59
TheSheepdan40: do you know the path to the share?02:59
dan40I know the IP02:59
viddsudo apt-get install smbfs03:00
dan40and I know the name of the directory03:00
greg__help?03:00
TheSheepdan40: do you know the share name?03:00
TheSheepgreg__: xmodmap03:00
greg__TheSheep, how?03:01
TheSheepgreg__: man xmodmap03:01
dan40under windows its going to be something like c://windows/dan/documents_and_settings/Desktop/movie_files03:01
TheSheepgreg__: I'm sure there are lots of tutorial on the 'Net03:01
TheSheepdan40: but which one is the share?03:02
greg__TheSheep, ive looked at man and on google03:02
TheSheepgreg__: http://web.mit.edu/answers/xwindows/xwindows_xmodmap.html03:03
TheSheepgreg__: third hit03:03
dan40uhm... I don't understand. maybe c://shared/movie_files03:03
TheSheepdan40: which 'folder' has a little hand icon on it? :)03:04
dan40under windows you mean?03:04
TheSheepyes03:04
dan40the movie_files folder03:04
TheSheepok, first try this: 'smbclient '//the-ip-of-the-windows-box/movie_files'03:05
TheSheep'03:05
greg__TheSheep, i dont get that03:05
TheSheepgreg__: which word?03:06
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dan40k...what should happen?03:06
TheSheepgreg__: just copy one of the exmaples03:06
TheSheepdan40: you should get a prompt03:06
TheSheepdan40: similar to an ftp03:06
TheSheepdan40: typing 'ls' should give you a list of files03:06
dan40oh...interesting..ok let me play with it for a few seconds03:07
dan40do I have to do that with sudo?03:07
greg__TheSheep, how i switch period and right alt key?03:07
TheSheepdan40: no03:08
dan40ok03:08
dan40TheSheep: yes. I have access to the directory03:09
dan40sweet03:10
greg__??03:10
viddgreg__, did you go to terminal and type xev?03:12
dan40TheSheep: ok now what? I guess I need to permanently mount that so that I can access it easily03:12
viddyou can use that command to find out what the keycode is for each character03:13
greg__??03:13
viddyou want to switch the space with the right alt? or do you want the right alt and the period to be a period? greg__ ?03:14
vidds/space/period03:14
greg__i want right alt to be period03:14
greg__and i dont need right alt03:15
viddand the period to be a period?03:15
greg__period key  is broke03:15
viddok....03:15
viddgive me a sec....03:15
greg__so i need one03:15
greg__so change right alt to period03:15
dan40TheSheep ?03:17
viddgreg__, xmodmap -e "keysym Alt_R = period"03:19
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greg__thnx vidd03:19
greg__..03:20
greg__:)03:20
viddyeah....now i need to UNDO it on my keyboard.....03:20
greg__lol03:20
dan40I guess thes03:20
dan40oops, fat fingers again03:20
dan40I guess theSheep is AFK03:21
TheSheepsorry, crashed my X :(03:22
TheSheepgreg__: here, copy this to your .xmodmap file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26831/03:22
dan40theSheep: there's always windows...03:22
greg__TheSheep, got it aleardy thnx tho03:22
Jester45im back everyone one, do worrie anymore03:23
TheSheepdan40: ok, now follow the guide at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26831/03:23
TheSheepdan40: the share name is '//the-ip-of-your-windows-box/movie_files'03:23
TheSheepJester45: \o/03:24
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dan40TheSheep: yep I tried it while you were gone. I can access all the files via the console...now how do I bring it into the GUI so I can browse it with the file manager or open it with VLC03:25
TheSheepfor some reason the new gtk in gutsy seems crashy :/03:25
TheSheepdan40: once it's mounted from your fstab, you can just navigate with thunar to /media/whatever03:25
vidd /o\03:26
dan40so just add that line to my fstab?03:26
TheSheepdan40: go to 'filesystem', then media, etc.03:26
TheSheepdan40: yes03:26
TheSheepdan40: or better this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently#head-9a9417197b46f020de9ba46f4842e4c18b11f3d003:26
TheSheepgood night and good luck03:27
dan40k thanks for your help03:28
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effie_jayxhey all03:40
effie_jayxto change themes for xfce is there a graphical tool?03:40
TaJMoXyes03:52
TaJMoX"User Interfaces"03:52
TaJMoXin settings03:52
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effie_jayxTaJMoX,  thanks :D03:57
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TaJMoXWhat's the hotkey to shade a window?04:51
Jester45whats the filesystem of a cd05:02
Jester45TaJMoX,  you can scroll your mouse wheel if you have one05:02
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j1mcJester45: a livecd?05:07
j1mcor an alternate install cd, or some other type?05:08
Jester45a game cd05:09
Jester45so.. some other type05:10
Jester45its in .img format... can mount use that05:11
j1mci'm not sure...05:11
Jester45ok im installing a converter05:13
j1mcJester45: i found this: http://tinyurl.com/2tpxhy05:14
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Jester45pong05:18
j1mcdid you see the url I copied above?05:20
j1mci was wondering if that helped.05:20
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Jester45i opened it05:41
Jester45but havent head it05:41
Jester45read05:41
alnoktahey Jester45 you still young :)05:44
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confusedhellop05:45
confusedhello*05:45
vidd_laptopcan we help you?05:46
Jester45hi05:46
confusedhpefully.05:46
Jester45alnokta, what ya taking about05:46
confusedYou see I downloaded xubuntu last night05:46
confusedand I'm trying to install it to a computer with only 92 mb of ram.05:47
alnoktaJester45, nothing..pardon me05:47
vidd_laptopconfused, did you get the alt cd?05:47
confusedNo =(05:47
confusedI got live...05:47
vidd_laptopyo will be lucky if you get the live cd to load.....05:47
vidd_laptop*you05:48
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=== vidd_laptop is not even 100% sure the alt will load on that little memory
ryan__how much?05:49
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vidd_laptopryan__, he has 92 mb of ram05:50
ryan__yea it will05:50
vidd_laptoplive wont though?05:50
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confusedI dont want to download another 600mb file..05:50
ryan__live will not but alt wil05:50
ryan__l05:50
ryan__you might not have to05:50
TaJMoXWhere do I change my key bindings for like pause/play/next/stop ?   They worked on gnome, and I can't find where to set it up in xfce405:51
ryan__you can use the mini iso... unless your network doesnt work "out of the box"05:51
vidd_laptopconfused, can your system connect to the internet via WIRED LAN?05:51
confusedI guess..05:51
confusedyes.05:52
vidd_laptopyou can get the mini iso from http://www.vidd.us/downloads05:52
confusedhow big is "mini"?05:52
vidd_laptop8.8 mb05:53
confusedwhat does that have on it?05:53
vidd_laptopenough to get your lan working, and load the installer....05:53
vidd_laptopit gets the rest off the internet05:53
Jester45wich is less than both other cds05:54
confusedhow much will it download like 500mb?05:54
vidd_laptopit will only download what you need05:54
confuseddoes that include like makefile?05:54
Jester45i think that depends on what you chooes05:54
vidd_laptopthe reason the other options are so big is because they contain the ENTIRE main repository on them05:55
vidd_laptopwhere as the mini contains NONE of them05:55
vidd_laptopit just pulls all the info off the internet05:56
confusedso I would have to download makefile etc. when i get into ubuntu/xubuntu?05:56
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confusedso It dosent download much?05:57
vidd_laptopno...you have access to all the repos....you just dont have to DOWNLOAD them all onto a disk to use them05:57
vidd_laptoponly what ya need05:57
confusedSo i chose what i download from the installer?05:58
confusedchoose*05:58
Jester45confused, its a very basic cli, network and apt05:58
vidd_laptopin a manner of speaking.....05:58
Jester45yes05:58
confusedthat inclkudes MAKEFILE?05:58
confusedincludes*05:58
vidd_laptopNO MAKEFILEs05:58
confuseddo i need makefiles in xubuntu?05:59
vidd_laptoponly if you later decide to compile something not in the repo's from source05:59
confusedisn't there a like sudo apt-get buil-essentials command anywhos?06:00
vidd_laptop99.9% of anything a new linux user needs is available via apt-get/synaptic06:00
confusedoh,06:00
confusedthats what i write in the command?06:00
confusedjust apt-get/synaptic..06:01
vidd_laptopconfused, have you ever used a debian-based distro?06:01
confuseduh I've never used any linux appcept dsl06:01
vidd_laptopdsl is similar....06:02
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Jester45to install somthing you do sudo apt-get install packagename06:02
Jester45and your likely to get it found06:02
vidd_laptopor, you can use the GUI front-end...synaptic06:02
Jester45once you install it06:03
confusedso what do i type in command for this synaptic thingy?06:03
vidd_laptopgksudo synaptic06:03
vidd_laptopor, you can go to applications>system>synaptic06:03
Jester45!apt06:04
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)06:04
confused!synaptic06:04
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto06:04
confusedThanks people.06:05
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TaJMoXHow do I get my media keys working in xubuntu?   Regular ubuntu had a keyboard gui thing where I just click "Play" and then press the keyboard button to map it.06:59
Jester45xmodmap07:13
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dan40I am having a problem with my /etc/fstab config07:41
dan40this is the text of the line in my /etc/fstab that is giving me problems http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26851/plain/07:41
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insmod<dan40>how do you normally access it08:48
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test3r!cdemu09:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdemu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:00
test3rhmmmm - OK I give up - whats the reason we dont use cdemu?09:01
test3rthey have in their future plans for support for image formats I can only burn with windows as of right now (dreamcast backups)09:02
test3rwell - the orig format , that is09:02
test3ri know a way to re-image it with linux that it would burn it again09:02
test3rbut that's not what i need i need to be able to burn CDI images09:03
vidd_laptoptest3r, what are you talking about?09:03
test3r.cdi09:03
test3rDisk Juggler format09:03
vidd_laptopoh...kay.....09:03
vidd_laptopwhat does that do?09:03
test3rit allows for odd images like a 500K starting boot track in AUDIO mode (but is infact scrabled binary data in that track)09:04
test3rthen its BIN09:04
test3rthen some have RAW audio09:04
test3rits pretty nuts, rly.09:04
vidd_laptopis there a reason you would WANT to do this?09:05
test3rtux CAN do it its just not out there yet .  the guy doing the cdEmu GNU code has on the page that it is in the future plans for their program09:05
test3rwell yes09:05
test3rpeople still use dreamcast that know how09:05
test3ryou can get one with several games and a couple controllers for Less then the price of 1/2 a tank of gas in an SUV now adays09:06
test3rand you can burn backups of your games and keep your originals nice - and you dont have to mod any hardware.09:06
test3rand sega owns because of that09:07
test3r=)09:07
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test3ralso - you can make your Own games on it09:07
test3rthere are several user-made-from-scratch  disks ive burned that play on my Dreamcast09:08
test3ryou can also make ROMs disks.09:08
test3rijn fact - a game i just made09:09
test3rthat is on Newsgroups09:09
test3rRIGHT Now09:09
test3r...   was done with GNU products09:09
test3rthey made a game with entirely free software.09:09
test3rthat runs on a video game council09:09
vidd_laptopquestion: how do you add someone to the sudo'rs group via command line?09:09
Jester45test3r, do file .cdi09:09
test3r!file .cdi09:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about file .cdi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:10
Jester45and it will tell you if it binary or iso09:10
test3rit is neither09:10
test3rdreamcast disk image is unique09:10
Jester45or what ever it is09:10
test3rthats why you have to use DJ or alcee to do them09:10
test3rits DAO if it is anything09:11
test3rthats the only Real thing u can classify it as09:11
test3rbecause parts are in RAW other track is BIN09:11
test3rfirst is scrambled bin09:11
test3rhey are elite.09:11
test3rOR just leave. whatever.09:11
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vidd_laptopJester45, you reboot?09:12
Jester45yes09:12
vidd_laptopanyone know how to add a user to sudo group via command line?09:13
test3ranyway - to answer you quickly Jester - they are mixed mode, multitrack DAO cds09:13
Jester45vidd_laptop, make me root09:14
Jester45and i will work on it latters09:14
Jester45bye09:16
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test3ri figure if i can use that on the cdi itself i can re-make a TOC file and the data copied09:19
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vidd_laptopand off to bed i go09:21
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test3ractually i just rememberd & found one of my old tools i used on windows box to make the Dreamcast disks10:06
test3rmkisofs10:06
test3rbut after you do that you have to run bin2boot on it10:06
test3rso just doing mkisofs in tux is not enough there is moronic step for bootloader10:07
test3ri just found a post of a guy that says the whole disk can b done with DD and using mode -xa and NOT -xa1 when burning10:22
test3rbut thats from an existing disk in the Drive. We need from .CDI image........10:23
test3rDoes anyone know if i can mount a CD with so screwd up data that the recommended setting for copying the disk is RAW Audio mode - if I can mount that disk through loopback and have it read everything correct?  =910:28
test3rer- mount the .cdi  Image file thru loopbak, i mean?10:28
test3rmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop010:31
test3rca ca    =(10:31
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test3rdoes anyone know the fs type of RAW audio according to the 'mount' cmnd inside linux?10:35
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test3reven using autofs  on the -t option of the MOUNT cmnd fails out.10:40
test3r=910:41
test3rbleh......  hmm...10:41
test3rhuh! there doesnt seem to be much of a way at all.10:58
test3rthere is a user on the Ubuntu forums though, baffled as to why, when ubuntu automounts his DC backups, they only read as audio disks.10:59
test3rHow people like him ever got it to burn in the First place is beyond me10:59
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test3rmagic_ninja > do You know anything about Dreamcast backups?11:01
test3r(just for the record, in Xubuntu, I pop one in, and it sees there is both data & audio on the disk and give me a choice of how to mount it incorrectly LOL)11:02
test3rwe need a "here mount this now, OK?" file system mount.11:02
test3ri ned mount override11:03
test3rif it existed it would solve the problem with the CDI files too11:04
test3rbecause I could mount, and then DD them11:05
test3ror, even easier, mount, then use "cdrdao"11:07
hyper_chtest3r: install vmware, then install windows there... load the .cdi and convert it to an iso11:08
test3rtoo ez- at that point i might as well burn a DVD with sever images in multi-RAR (like i did) for backup, disconnect my dvd drive from tuxbox, connect to linux box, turn back on, and just unfold/burn from there11:10
test3reven QuickPar runs faster than the CLI  par2 version Ive been using. Then again - this is a 500Mhrz box and the win is much much newer11:10
test3rxp needs the faster box though.11:11
test3rthis 500mhrz box burns dvds!!!!   its only at 0.6X, but they BURN !11:12
test3rwin would choke && die.11:12
test3r*connect it to the WINblows box, turn it back on11:13
test3rits all good. they'll sort it out someday here. I'm not the only one that's noticed it seems.11:15
test3rI wonder if I should drop that guy a line on the ubuntu forums? Although it would go something like "google for the way dreamcast disks are arranged & burned"11:16
test3rbecause thee is a slew of info.11:16
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test3rheh, i even have a PAL>NTSC vid hak loader exe image changer thingeee for windoze that Works (sometimes)11:21
test3ryou use it on the euro DC disks11:21
test3rer, I would11:21
test3ruwouldnt if u lived,..... well- u get the idea.11:21
test3r;)11:23
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grumpymole /quit01:43
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Otacon22anyone with xubuntu 7.04 can nopaste me his sources.list?02:02
TheSheep!esysource02:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about esysource - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:02
TheSheep!easysource | Otacon2202:02
ubotuOtacon22: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:02
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gunnarHello all!03:49
gunnarCan somebody help me a little bit?03:49
gunnar:)03:49
gunnaranybody?03:50
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GunmanicI just have one quick question, I'm trying to compile a package from source, and I was wondering if there is a package I can download so that I can compile just about anything wiht haveing to worry about not having the crrect compilers03:51
Gunmanic?03:51
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Pumpernickel!info build-essential03:53
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB03:53
PumpernickelIt has all the basic utilities as dependencies.03:53
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Gunmanicok thanks alot03:57
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hyper_chTheSheep: if you install a new kernel on a server... how can you ensure that if boot process fails with the new one that the old one is then booted?04:24
hyper_chPumpernickel: : if you install a new kernel on a server... how can you ensure that if boot process fails with the new one that the old one is then booted?04:24
hyper_chGunmanic: why do you want to compile something?04:25
Pumpernickelhyper_ch: Test server, and infrequent kernel updates.04:33
hyper_chPumpernickel: well, that's not a solution :)04:34
PumpernickelNo, it's a preventative.04:34
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Gunmanichyper_ch just for fun :)05:17
GunmanicIt can be a pain but that just adds to the fun off figuring it out05:18
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YchthysHi,06:14
YchthysI am trying to get my mother's computer that is running xubuntu feisty to be German in all menus06:15
YchthysThunderbird and Firefox already are German06:15
YchthysBut the "start menu" of xubuntu is still English.06:15
YchthysWhere can I change that?06:16
TheSheepYchthys: settings->language support06:16
YchthysCool, thanks06:16
YchthysI'll take a look06:16
TheSheepYchthys: sorry, it's system->language support06:16
YchthysTheSheep: Neither of these entries seems to exist here06:17
YchthysMaybe I am missing a package?06:17
TheSheepYchthys: maybe, install 'language-selector' with synaptic06:17
YchthysTheSheep: Just installing language-selector already took care of the German menu.  I also have the "language support" entry in Systems menu now.  Thanks a bunch.  You saved me a lot of time.06:23
TheSheepYchthys: you probably want to manually install the 'xubuntu-desktop' package -- that will install all the remaining missing packages06:24
YchthysThis machine is a bit strapped for HD space at the moment06:25
YchthysI will go through the dependencies and install stuff I deem necessary stuff06:25
YchthysThanks for the hint06:25
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Ychthysbrb06:33
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YchthysThe "Start Menu" is still labeled "Applications".  Is that likely because of a missing translation?  The entries are indeed German now.06:37
TheSheepYchthys: no, it's not translatable, just right-click it, select 'properties' and type whatever you want in there06:41
Ychthysah, nice.  Thanks06:43
YchthysTheSheep: What about "About XFCE" and "quit".  Those are also still English06:43
YchthysNevermind06:44
YchthysI think I found it06:44
TheSheepsettings->menu editor06:44
TheSheepthey would be translated if logged in the first time with German langauge06:44
TheSheepbut once you logged in, they were saved06:44
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Paladinehey peeps does anyone know if xfce's compositing engine works with xinerama?06:47
TheSheepPaladine: I think there are people using it, and they didn't complain, but they might have been using twinview :/06:48
PaladineI ask because all the other compositing engines (beryl, ompiz, compiz-fusion) have removed xinerama support over the past year06:48
Paladineso it is impossible to use them if you have xinerama enabled06:49
Paladinethey refuse to start06:49
Ychthyswhat?06:51
YchthysThat is a shame.06:51
YchthysWhat is their reason to do that?06:51
Paladinexinerama disables xrandr, which is required to run the normal compositing engines06:51
YchthysOh, I guess you should use mergedfb?06:51
Paladinemergedfb is for intel06:51
Ychthyshm?06:52
YchthysI have an ATI card06:52
YchthysOr do you mean i386 specific?06:52
TheSheepPaladine: I'm not entirely sure, but I think xfwm4 requires xrandr for compositing06:52
YchthysI'd be surprised about that, too06:52
PaladineI use multiple gpus and use xinerama to have a single desktop for multiple displays06:52
Paladineit always used to work with xgl+compiz-quinn06:53
Paladinebut they removed support :/06:53
Ychthysgotta run06:53
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YchthysTheSheep: Thank you for your kind help06:53
Paladinek TheSheep thanks for the info, I guess I will have to wait until xinerama support gets re-added at some point06:55
Paladinewhich is damn annoying but since it effects all the compositing engines I have come across so far, it isn't xfce's fault06:55
TheSheepPaladine: I'm not sure of what I told you06:56
PaladineI wish I could go back to my setup last year with dappr+xgl+compiz-quinn06:56
TheSheepPaladine: I remember it requires xdestroy and that xrandr was mentioned too, but not sure06:56
Paladineeverything worked sweet06:56
PaladineI was hopng xrandr 1.2 would fix the problem because it handles xinerama internally meaning you could disable it in xorg.conf allowing compiz to work, but sadly xrandr 1.2 doesn't currently support xinerama for multiple gpu's only a single dual headed gpu :/06:58
Paladineanyway thanks again, have fun07:02
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Jester45TheSheep, you wouldnt know if i can have a ttyl on one gpu and X on another07:18
TheSheepJester45: sure, that's hwat the 'pci' option in the xorg.conf is for07:18
TheSheepJester45: you tell it which card to use07:19
Jester45o.. i want the intrgrated to be ttyl07:20
Jester45the pci card is better so i wanted to use it for beryl07:21
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TheSheepJester45: lspci will show you the busid of the crads07:24
TheSheepcards07:24
Jester45k07:27
Jester45well.. i need to get the moniter first07:27
Jester45and... kill my other xservers :)07:27
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raymondi did a text install and didnt have it setup the network07:42
raymondhow do i configure it now?07:42
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TheSheepraymond: edit /etc/network/interfaces07:44
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raymondnow how do i tell it to reload that file? can i use ifconfig to bring the interface up and it will read that?07:54
TheSheepraymond: /etc/init.d/netwroking restart07:56
TheSheepnetworking07:56
raymondwow im retarded should have thought of that. thanks07:56
hyper_chhiho folks08:04
raymondhi08:05
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R[a] ndomxfdesktop is taking 40% of 1gb of ram.08:58
R[a] ndomI'm guessing it isn't supposed to do that08:58
ConstyDoes xfce use the same menubar applets as gnome?  For example configuring wireless and such using network manager, or does it use it's own?09:00
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neozenno09:03
R[a] ndomanyone know of any repos w/ xfce 4.4.1?09:03
neozenI don't think it should09:03
neozenConsty: xfce doesn't use the SAME applets necessarily... but I believe it CAN09:04
neozenI've had good experience installing network-manager-gnome in xubuntu09:04
Constyneozen: Well what application do you use for configuring wireless on a default xubuntu installation?09:04
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Amon-sanhi, if i wanted to put /boot on a seperate partition, how big would it need to be in order to have enough room for the kernel?09:25
Amon-sananyone?09:30
cellofellow10 or 15MB should do it I think.09:30
cellofellowhow big is it now?09:30
Amon-san32M09:30
cellofellowmake it 50 and that should do you. Mine is actually 62MB09:31
cellofellowhow I don't know.09:31
cellofellowYou won't hardly notice even if you have a 100MB /boot09:31
cellofellowit will seem teeeny09:31
cellofellowbut be plenty09:31
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Amon-santhanks09:36
Jester45cellofel1ow, what if you upgrade to a new kernel doesnt the old ones stay?09:40
Jester45that would add up09:40
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kalikianaJester45, You can easily remove kernels via apt. ;)09:41
kalikianaUnless you're one of those custom-kernel-guys...09:41
Jester45...09:41
=== Jester45 would never do that :)
cellofellowI clean up my kernels when I can.09:43
kalikianaFunnily, OpenBSD even states on a help page, that they won't support custom kernels.09:45
kalikianaYet this is understandable. And probably the least strange thing about BSD.09:46
cellofellowOpenBSD is all about security, and they use a "cathedral" development model, not a "bazaar", so that would make sense.09:49
TheSheepnow we are back at the 'trash dumb behind the bazaar' model09:50
TheSheepdump09:50
cellofellowoh?09:51
TheSheepnothing, really, please ignore me09:51
cellofellowwhat do you mean?09:51
cellofellowok09:51
TheSheepdamn, I'm answering before people ask *again* >_<09:52
cellofellowsorry09:52
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kalikianaTheSheep, Now that I see you, the update is there if you're interested.09:54
kalikianaAnd you said you have some comments to make.09:54
TheSheepkalikiana: ah, just when I did a Great Cleanup and removed the compiled webcore :)09:56
=== TheSheep proceeds to download
kalikianaTheSheep, I wonder why you'd do that - webcore isn't that big.09:57
kalikianaCompared to mozilla stuff or qt.09:57
TheSheepkalikiana: it looked bad just lying there and doing nothing :)09:57
=== TheSheep <-- compulsive cleaner
=== kalikiana <-- keeps what's worth keeping. ;)
TheSheepkalikiana: I usually keep everything "just in case", periodically throwing it all away in a Great Cleanup09:58
TheSheepkalikiana: I *always* suffer after them09:59
kalikianaTheSheep, Seems you're doing it similar to me. But *I* keep for example some tarballs even if they are not installed. That often reduces the suffereing.10:00
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hyper_chufff.... so enough programming done for today :)10:09
TheSheephyper_ch: do tell10:09
hyper_chTheSheep: writing a small bot :)10:09
TheSheeptickle?10:10
hyper_chTheSheep: for fetching the new published decisions by the federal court, sort them into categories and have certain ones sent to me by email :)10:10
TheSheephyper_ch: ah, so it's a spider?10:12
hyper_chTheSheep: what's the difference?10:12
TheSheephyper_ch: spiders, or 'web crawlers', are programs that traverse the Web and do something with the pages they find (archive, index, spam...)10:14
hyper_chTheSheep: and how do bots not do that?10:15
TheSheephyper_ch: I didn't say they don't10:16
TheSheephyper_ch: I just use a more specific term10:16
TheSheepused10:16
hyper_chTheSheep: ok :)10:16
hyper_chTheSheep: well, there are paid services that do exactly the same... and it was easy to code :)10:17
TheSheephyper_ch: glad to hear that10:18
hyper_chTheSheep: thx... it's simple php :)10:18
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TheSheepargh10:18
TheSheep.oO( at least not ASP ;) )10:19
hyper_chwhat's wrong with php?10:19
=== kalikiana thinks that TheSheep just doesn't know php and is envious. ;)
TheSheepkalikiana: spot on! :)10:20
=== hyper_ch thinks that TheSheep does know everything about computers and programming
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cellofellowaarggh I hate this not having my password.10:22
hyper_ch;)10:22
hyper_chcellofellow: you forgot it?10:22
=== kalikiana wonders if TheSheep is in a good mood to actually spell lol.
cellofellowhyper_ch: my mom changed it10:22
hyper_chcellofellow: lol10:22
kalikianaHaha, the evil mummy again. *g10:22
cellofellowShe did it once, I found a work around, then she closed that one, I found another, now their all closed up.10:23
hyper_chcellofellow: you shouldn't spend so much time at computers... it's better to do studying for school10:24
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TheSheepcellofellow: boot with inti=/bin/bash kernel option :)10:24
TheSheepinit10:24
cellofellowwhat does that do?10:24
TheSheepcellofellow: runs bash right after booting the kernel, instead of the usual init scripts10:25
TheSheepcellofellow: then you can manoually mount / and change the password10:25
TheSheepmanually10:25
cellofellowgeee10:25
kalikianaMy mummy doesn't know or care enough to change a password. She is already confused if she tries to load a photo cd. :P10:25
cellofellowMy mummy makes me help her lock me out of my computer.10:25
TheSheepkalikiana: technological solutions to social problems never work10:25
kalikianaTheSheep, Yep. I had that friend with sitting with an egg timer at his pc. :/10:26
TheSheepcellofellow: maybe it's for your own good?10:26
cellofellowprolly10:26
TheSheepcellofellow: fortunatelly cellos have no passwords ;)10:27
cellofellowyeah10:27
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cellofellow(I don't really mind having my time limited, it's just having my access to actually DO things with my computer I don't like.)10:28
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cellofellowIs there a way to customize /etc/sudoers so that I can use sudo without a password, and have limited access (like no changing passwords allowed.) Or to have it use a separate password.?10:29
TheSheepcellofellow: yes10:29
cellofellowdo tell! or link me to a tutorial. It would be so cool to be able to do that.10:29
TheSheepwell, man sudoers10:29
TheSheepbasically, you want to require password for running passwd, but not for all the rest10:30
cellofellowhow specific can it get?10:30
TheSheep(this is not foolproof)10:30
TheSheepyou can always edit your /etc/shadow10:30
cellofellowI don't know how to edit /etc/shadow, seeing as it uses encrypted stuff.10:31
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Jester45anyone here want to walk me though setting apache up?10:34
Jester45im stuck at the user/group for it to run as10:34
kalikianaJester45, Are you kidding? That's too easy on ubuntu. :P10:34
cellofellowwww-data:www-data10:34
Jester45ok let me ssh in again10:35
Jester45o and by the way im installing torrent flux... but not from the repo10:35
Jester45i dont like installing server/internet stuff like that from repo because i want to know where it all it10:36
BFTDyeah same here10:36
BFTDJester45 usually everything with apache is root10:37
Jester45no... it says that you shoudlnt run it as root10:37
Jester45umm syntax error...10:37
cellofellowthat would be correct10:37
Jester45can nano list line #10:38
kalikianaEvery cracker should be happy to see that you like to run apache as root. ;)10:38
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TheSheepJester45: better use the packaged one, you can list the files with dpkg -L10:39
Jester45TheSheep, if i use the packaged one where does it install the files to... the .php files10:40
Jester45or would you know10:40
TheSheepJester45: apache doesn't come with .php files as far as I know10:40
TheSheepJester45: it is written in C, mostly10:40
aanderseso is there an xfburn plugin so thunar will be able to right click on iso and burn image like with gnome's nautilus?10:40
Jester45no, torrent flux. i installed the repo version of apache10:40
kalikianaTheSheep, There is the config and the default pages - if you care anyway10:41
TheSheepaanderse: it's easy to configure using the 'custom actions'10:41
aandersesweet10:41
=== aanderse man's xfburn
aandersehmm10:41
TheSheepaanderse: in Thunar go to 'edit->custom actions'10:42
Jester45can nano list line #s or skipp to a line10:42
TheSheepJester45: no idea, use a real text editor10:42
somerville32Jester45, ^g10:42
Jester45im sshed in.. no gui... and i only know nano10:45
somerville32I use nano myself10:45
Jester45i know of vi vim10:45
cellofellowvim isn't too hard.10:46
TheSheeped is the one and only true editor!10:46
cellofellowsyntax highlighting in apache.conf is nice10:46
cellofellowummmm, ok TheSheep10:46
Jester45ok, i got a snytax error with this on the line10:47
Jester45ocumentRoot "/var/www/apache2-defualt"10:47
TheSheepDocumentRoot10:47
Jester45did i do somthing wrong?10:47
TheSheepyou missed a D10:47
Jester45o yea it has the D10:47
TheSheep%)10:47
Jester45it didnt copy it :)10:47
Jester45or that might of been my fault, the d is where the cursor is10:48
cellofellowI think that only applies in <VirtualHost>10:48
Jester45so.. can i remove it10:49
TheSheepcellofellow: or globally10:49
cellofellowI tried globally before and it didn't do anything10:49
TheSheepcellofellow: because there is already one in apache.conf10:50
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Jester45is it safe to just remove it10:52
TheSheepJester45: depends on where you have it -- you need at least one10:52
TheSheepJester45: they have a really well-written documentation at apache.org, really10:53
Jester45the error is coming from httd10:53
TheSheepthat must be a HTT daemon %)10:53
TheSheepbut you want one for HTTP instead10:53
Jester45i just want to get apache running, vidd will look at the config later10:53
TheSheepJester45: well, apache is running out of the box right after you install it10:54
Jester45no... it failed10:54
Jester45i can purge/install it10:54
TheSheepJester45: you're installing apache2, right?10:55
Jester45yes10:56
TheSheepJester45: try the purge/install, it should really work out of the box10:57
Jester45dpkg: error processing apache (--configure):10:57
Jester45 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 110:57
Jester45Errors were encountered while processing:10:57
Jester45 apache10:57
Jester45E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)10:57
Jester45Syntax error on line 298 of /etc/apache/httpd.conf:10:57
TheSheepJester45: pastebin that httpd.conf10:58
Jester45and... it didnt purgw the config10:58
Jester45when i install shouldnt it make one for me10:59
TheSheepJester45: pastebin that httpd.conf11:00
Jester45i deleted it11:00
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TheSheep:)11:03
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Jester45ok.. i think it started11:03
somerville32sudo ps ux | grep apache11:03
TheSheepJester45: without the default httpd.conf it won't include the config files you give it11:03
Jester45i dont have any configs11:04
TheSheepJester45: but you plan to have at least one?11:04
Jester45umm11:04
Jester45i guess11:05
Jester45for right now all i want is for apache to have php support and to send me those php files11:05
TheSheepyou mean, to execute those php files and send you the results11:06
somerville32Do you want the php ... yeah11:06
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dan40n e one here?11:10
TheSheeplinux was bought out by Microsoft and we are packing our bags11:12
dan40TheSheep: hehe...Glad to see you. You helped me a lot yesterday11:12
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dan40I am very close with this Samba thing but it keeps asking for my password. Not my windows password but my sudo password.11:14
somerville32Are you sure it isn't asking for your windows passwor?11:16
dan40My windows doesn't have a pw that I know of...besides its not the same passphrase11:17
Jester45TheSheep and somerville32, i tried to install torrentflux from the repo and it said the path for php has changed libpgp-adodb has chagned path please update your php.ini file11:18
somerville32/etc/php/php.ini ?11:18
somerville32Jester45, You do know thre is #ubuntu-server - right?11:18
Jester45nope...11:19
Jester45it auto reconfiugured php.ini after i pressed ok11:20
somerville32cheer11:20
dan40so I have no idea what to do or whats wrong with my syntax11:21
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TheSheepdan40: but what did you do?11:23
dan40I can mount the share manually..but when I put it into the fstab it asks for my sudo password11:23
TheSheepdan40: at boot?11:24
dan40yes11:24
TheSheepdan40: have you tried adding 'user=guest,password=' to the options?11:24
dan40well no not exactly ...at boot it just ignores the line but if I do a mount -a then it asks for my sudo password11:24
dan40I have "defaults" where that goes11:25
TheSheepdan40: you have fuse installed?11:25
dan40here let me paste it into that website11:25
TheSheepwait, you do 'mount -a' as root?11:25
TheSheepI mean 'sudo mount -a'?11:26
dan40yes sudo mount -a11:26
dan40http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26925/plain/11:26
dan40thats the line in my fstab11:27
TheSheepdan40: looks good, what is the output of 'sudo mount -a'?11:27
dan40I get a prompt asking for my pw11:27
dan40then it mounts just fine11:28
TheSheepdan40: you are sure it's not from the sudo?11:28
dan40whats not from the sudo?11:28
TheSheepthe password prompt11:28
TheSheepyou know, it's supposed to ask you for password when you use sudo11:28
TheSheep(at least the first time around)11:29
dan40yes. but why isn't it working on boot then?11:29
TheSheepdan40: see the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently11:29
dan40k11:29
dan40well color me stoopid I thought I had read that whole thing11:30
TheSheepit's still pretty weird and looks like some bug in smbfs11:31
TheSheepbut at least there is a workaround11:31
dan40btw is there not a gui based text editor in Xubuntu? Not a big fan of this nano11:31
TheSheepdan40: mousepad11:32
dan40ah11:32
TheSheepdan40: you can also install Your Favorite Editor11:32
TheSheep(whatever it happens to be)11:32
dan40I guess I didn't correlate mousepad as a text editor...maybe if it was called mouse text or something11:33
TheSheepall good names are taken11:34
dan40ok its not letting me save in mousepad...sudo?11:34
TheSheepgksu -- better for gui applications11:35
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dan40I will try it next time I boot to see if it works. {crosses fingers}11:37
dan40I am also getting a couple of wierd messages on start up. Ever since I loaded Samba I get this message that X cannot locate my computer on the network and it will not function properly. Everything seems to be working just fine though11:38
TheSheepdan40: add your computer name to the /etc/hosts11:39
TheSheepdan40: as 127.0.0.1 or something like that11:39
TheSheepdan40: the message is caused by a reverse dns lookup failure11:39
dan40even if I am using dhcp?11:39
TheSheep(X tries to find out what IP number your host name maps to)11:40
TheSheepand since you don't apparently have a reverse dns set up in your network, it fails11:40
dan40hmm good enough11:40
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TheSheepdan40: just add your host name right after that 'localhost'11:41
dan40hmm, it already has an entry for it11:42
TheSheepand you still get the errors?11:42
TheSheepah, samba itself can display a similar error when it starts11:43
TheSheepI mean the smaba daemon that is for *serving* the files *from* your computer11:43
dan40hmm, I think I see the problem. I was messing around with the domain a couple of days ago. I think it has the wrong domain11:43
TheSheepyou can just uninstall it if you don't need it -- for reading windows shares you only need the smbfs11:43
TheSheepah, ok11:44
dan40I am going to reboot and see if that fixes things11:44
dan40bbl11:44
dan40and thanks for all your help11:44
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dan40TheSheep: Its working perfectly and no errors on startup11:53
TheSheepdan40: great11:53
dan40man I don't know how you can remember all these files and locations.11:54
dan40TheSheep: ok last thing. I get an ACPI {sp?} error right when I start. I notice that hibernate and standby don't really work. Shut down doesn't work perfectly either.11:56
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dan40Is ACPI the system that controls those things?11:57
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Gregwhats a program i can use to run a .jar ?12:10
TheSheepGreg: java -jar12:10
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ochosihi, i wanted to compile the panel extension "places" today, but got an error that gtk+-2.0 was not found on my system (although i'm quite sure it's installed). any ideas how to work around that?12:16
TheSheepochosi: you need the -dev package12:17
TheSheepochosi: btw, the palces plugin is not that great -- it doesn't allow you to mount/unmount the devices :/12:18
ochosimm, that'12:18
ochosis correct12:18
ochosijust wanted to check it out12:19
ochosithanks anyway!12:19

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