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bob_salut12:15
bob_hello12:15
bob_somebody online?12:15
PsiKloPxjust a noob lookin' for a little help12:16
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PsiKloPxapparently12:16
eriefisherwe are here12:16
bob_he does anyone help me with a Makefile pb????12:16
bob_can12:16
eriefishernot my thing but ask away12:17
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jhutchinsbob_: Post a clear summary of your problem.  If someone who knows somethig about it drifts by, they'll answer.12:21
jhutchinsbob_: This time of day is a bit hit-or-miss.12:22
bob_yeah12:22
bob_i d like to use a folder to generate my .o files12:22
bob_but i m missing something the makefile12:22
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daleI have a mute key in my keyboard that somehow executes a 'mute' function on kmix but it does not work.12:24
jhutchinsMight be something over at http://tldp.org12:24
daleknown bug?12:24
nolovedSuperKaramba is a mess, is unified like O$$$ X, for instance I can't move LiquidWheather12:24
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jhutchinsdale: If it doesn't work, how do you know it's executing a mute function for kmix?12:24
daleIt coems up on the screen "mute on/off" but it does not actualy mute.12:25
daleany ideas?12:26
nolovedI think I screw a screw somewhere12:26
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nolovedis OK to do this? sudo chown -R user /media/MyFolder12:26
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nolovedmy psp     no longer is mounting yet it mount in XP12:28
daledriver problem maybe?12:28
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noloved[11985.685330]  end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 012:29
noloved[12370.287887]  usb 4-6: USB disconnect, address 1312:29
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noloved[25947.950680]  VMBlock warning: DentryOpRevalidate: invalid args from kernel12:29
DaSkreechnoloved: Why don't you just mount it with rights?12:29
nolovedbasically12:29
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nolovedshould it be the damn thing autoamtically mount?12:30
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BluesKajdale, perhaps your xorg.conf file KB settings aren't quite right ...i'd try in the KB sys settings first tho12:31
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dalesorry i dont understand.12:35
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nolovedwhere's customer service? Kubuntu is not mounting my flash12:36
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DaSkreechnoloved: What is it doing with it?12:36
nolovedthis12:36
noloved[11985.685330]  end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 012:36
noloved[12370.287887]  usb 4-6: USB disconnect, address 1312:36
noloved[25947.950680]  VMBlock warning: DentryOpRevalidate: invalid args from kernel12:36
noloved^^^ that and with TWO computers12:37
DaSkreechLooks like something is up with the device12:37
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nolovedDaSkreech: but it mounts ok in m$$$ and I've tried with two different flash cards both fail misserably in Kubuntu12:38
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nolovedthere's no more disgraceful Kubuntu failure than this12:38
DaSkreechnoloved: what happens if you mount them manually12:39
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nolovedI don't think /dev/flahswhatever is even showing up12:39
DaSkreechnoloved: actaully I think not booting  but trying to do so overloading the power supply and starting a fire which burns down the neighbourhood might be more disgraceful12:39
nolovedbut let me check12:39
DaSkreechnoloved: do you know what /dev/flashwhatever should be ? :)12:39
nolovedDaSkreech: dmesg will spit it out for me12:40
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bankseyHey guys, What the differnce between Ubuntu and Kubuntu, If any :/12:40
DaSkreech!kubuntu12:40
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE12:40
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nolovedDaSkreech: can't mount it because of this "[23549.464944]  usb 4-1: USB disconnect, address 1412:41
nolovedoh man12:41
nolovedwhat happened?12:41
DaSkreechUSB 2.0?12:42
nolovedis something wrong in the kernel ?? look at this awfully ugly message "[25947.950680]  VMBlock warning: DentryOpRevalidate: invalid args from kernel"12:42
banksey!KDE12:42
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.12:42
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DaSkreech:-)12:43
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nolovedam about to curse12:43
DaSkreechnoloved: it need rogue? :)12:43
nolovedlike sailor12:43
DaSkreechnoloved: have you tried to do a search for the error?12:43
nolovedrogue what12:43
DaSkreechmascara12:43
nolovedYES, in here12:43
DaSkreechnoloved: is it a USB 2 device?12:44
nolovedyes12:44
DaSkreechis it a USB 2.0 chipset?12:45
nolovedDaSkreech: MY BAD. I was plugging the cable on another computer without power and without monitor.12:46
nolovednow is ok12:46
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DaSkreechthat's what I thought :)12:46
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DaSkreechnoloved: if you would still like to curse at the problem like a sailor please go ahead12:47
nolovedby the way I don't  agree the way Kubuntu deletes stuff in flash, it seems that is using shred with 45 passes12:47
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nolovedcan't it just clipped it off the filesystem?12:47
nolovedI don't need a massive overwrite12:47
DaSkreechnoloved: fairly certain that's not by default something you turned on somewhere12:47
nolovedI still get this guly error though "[28605.337506]  VMBlock warning: DentryOpRevalidate: invalid args from kernel"12:49
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vit_hola12:58
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draikHow do I play SWF files/ GNASH makes it play like a chipmunk on crack12:59
DaSkreechnoloved: Not sure. the only other place I see that turning up is on nvidia's site12:59
DaSkreech!flash01:00
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash01:00
vit_hola01:00
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DaSkreechvit_: hi01:00
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nolovedok01:00
nolovedit01:00
nolovedit's fine01:00
vit_how are you01:00
devnullheh 64bit didn't like me much01:00
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nolovedanyway I just finishing mad programs I don't know what else to do01:00
nolovedI am bored now01:00
DaSkreechstart sane ones?01:01
daleDoes anyone know any superKaramba docks that have kopete, amarok etc icons?01:01
DaSkreechgeila: ok and you?01:01
SayersPriceChild: Hi01:01
daleanyone?01:01
nolovedoh I know, what a GUI user-friendly FireWall and AntiVirus?01:02
DaSkreech!firewall01:02
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).01:02
DaSkreech!virus01:02
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2101:02
geilaALGUIEN Q HABLE ESPAOL01:03
nolovedDaSkreech: just for feel good01:03
nolovedgeila: calla mierda01:03
DaSkreech!es | geila01:03
ubotugeila: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:03
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geilaMAS MIERDA SERAS TU01:04
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nolovedtu madre guarra01:04
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nolovedwhat about a FireWall?01:07
DaSkreech!firewall01:07
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).01:07
draikI have KDE/GNOME/XFCE all under one roof (namely my computer). How do I select a default app per desktop environment. I don't want the choice to be system-wide, just environment-wide.01:07
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DaSkreech!default01:07
ubotuTo change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"01:07
DaSkreechNo idea in XFCE01:08
draikThank you DaSkreech01:08
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nolovedDaSkreech: what else could I download for Kubuntu?01:09
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draikWhat's the best app for playing SWF (flash) files?01:11
devnull<3 kubuntu compared to suse01:12
DaSkreechnoloved: what do you do?01:12
DaSkreechdraik: a web browser01:12
nolovedDaSkreech: got three01:12
nolovedoh01:12
nolovedDaSkreech: nothing really productive01:12
nolovedis for other ppl this01:12
DaSkreechnoloved: then wesnoth01:12
nolovedthey are not players01:13
DaSkreechnoloved: what are they?01:13
noloveddesktop users, chat browse, aol and so01:14
nolovedmusic01:14
nolovedvideos01:14
draikDaSkreech: Even if I have it downloaded on my desktop?01:14
Arwenanyone here have experience with gpg? I need help01:14
DaSkreechnoloved: You dropped on thecodec already01:14
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nolovedDaSkreech: what's that?01:14
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DaSkreech!codecs01:15
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:15
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nolovedDaSkreech: yeah I think I've got most of it covered if not all. At least all I've been able to see no those threads01:15
draikDaSkreech: Do you think I have a codec issue as well? I can't seem to play the SWF file with GNASH01:15
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DaSkreechdraik: no. You have GNASh  it tries to emultate a flash that's at least 2 versions old and I'm assuming it doesn't have all of those covered as well01:16
noloved!acc01:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:16
draikDaSkreech: Recommended solution?01:16
nolovedwhat's the codec in charge of AAC01:17
noloved!aac01:17
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Arwennoloved, faad01:17
DaSkreechdraik: read ! flash01:17
Arwenbut which package you need depends on the player01:17
draik!flash01:17
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash01:17
Linux_Galoreor just use kubxtra and it will install all that stuff for you from a graphical interface  www.kde-apps.org01:18
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nolovedArwen: wow, I was missing that one!!!01:19
nolovedstrange I let that pass by01:19
soulrider_!lamp01:20
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)01:20
Linux_Galore!kubxtra01:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kubxtra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:20
Arwennoloved, ....FAIL01:20
Linux_Galorestill not in the repo01:20
Arweninstalling faad won't help with anything01:20
Linux_GaloreArwen: install  xine-extracodecs01:20
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ArwenLinux_Galore, don't tell me what to install, geez01:21
nolovedArwen:  ohh I filed :-) lol01:21
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Linux_GaloreArwen: kgpg  life is too short01:21
nolovedE: Couldn't find package xine-extracodecs01:21
ArwenLinux_Galore, that doesn't help because I actually *need* to figure out gpg01:22
nolovedthere's no program more loathing than Real Player, is it possible to play Real's files with an open source program?01:22
Arwennoloved, it's called 'libxine1-ffmpeg'01:22
draik!gnash01:23
ubotuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/01:23
Arwenand to play crappy formats like Real and WMA, you need w32codecs01:23
DaSkreechnoloved: it's libxine01:23
Linux_GaloreArwen: the GNU guys have a trainer running around thats how I learnt it01:23
nolovedok got 'em all then01:23
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DaSkreechArwen: What nonesense?01:23
ArwenDaSkreech, gpg nonsense01:23
nolovedthis chapter is over01:23
ArwenI can't make heads or tails over it01:23
DaSkreechArwen: why do you need to?01:24
Arwenmake a keyring apparently01:24
Arwengpgv keeps complaining about not having a 'trustedkeys.gpg'01:24
DaSkreechnoloved: libxine-extracodecs01:24
DaSkreechnoloved: you can install helix01:24
nolovedlibxine-extracodecs is already the newest version.01:24
Linux_Galorethe package is actually called libxine-extracodecs sorry01:24
DaSkreechArwen: right make a  key ring01:24
noloved!antivirus01:25
ubotuantivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus01:25
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DaSkreech!virus01:25
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2101:25
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nolovedis ClamAV the KDE version? I thought there was something like KlamAV01:25
DaSkreechhi dale01:25
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nolovedI already read that01:25
Linux_Galorenoloved: you may have to compile  ffmpeg and enable some things01:25
DaSkreechnoloved: no it's command line01:25
Arwenclamav is command line software...01:25
daleHello Daskreech.01:25
Arwen!medibuntu01:25
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org01:25
Arwenkthx01:26
nolovedLinux_Galore: like what?01:26
daleDoes anyone know any dock apps? except kooldock?01:26
nolovedLinux_Galore: why would I have to compile? For I might as well install Gentoo01:26
DaSkreechnoloved: ha ha :) right01:26
Linux_Galorenoloved:  because its covered by a commercial license01:26
nolovedHelix is O_open source??01:27
DaSkreechnoloved: yes01:28
DaSkreechmade by Real01:28
Linux_Galoreor you can dig around the deb repo's and find a not so legal version01:28
nolovedw00t01:28
DaSkreechtrying to fight the Microsoft onslaught01:28
nolovedso is not breach of treason to install it?01:28
DaSkreech!info helix-player01:28
ubotuhelix-player: the helix audio and video player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-3 (feisty), package size 3966 kB, installed size 10184 kB (Only available for i386 powerpc sparc)01:28
nolovedwould  you guys install it?01:29
nolovedis it open source?01:29
Linux_GaloreHelix is open source01:29
Linux_GaloreReal isnt though01:30
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doc_hi01:30
Linux_GaloreI dont use helix01:30
Linux_Galoreor real so its not an issue for me01:30
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Linux_Galorenoloved: just compile ffmpeg (its very simple and there are howto's) and life becomes simple again01:31
DaSkreechnoloved: the main difference between helix and the realplayer is that the realplayer can do DRM and RVMB01:32
DaSkreechor what ever real9 is called01:32
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TheNetuser# Appears as ANNA01:32
TheNetuser(#G7::E@10M1) Hi!01:32
TheNetuser(#G1<:E114M1) I'm TheNetuser! :)01:32
TheNetuser(#G56:E566RM1) <Chr>01:32
nolovedLinux_Galore: what does compiled ffmpeg enable?01:33
TheNetuser(#G610E;10M1) Anyone here using WINE on Ubuntu?01:33
Linux_Galorenoloved: it allows you to transcode and play just about anything01:33
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nolovedincluding DRM and RVMB?01:33
nolovedand BBC streams?01:33
Linux_Galorenoloved: I havent used anything with DRM on it yet01:34
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nolovedLinux_Galore: is there a repo with ffmpeg compiled?01:34
Linux_Galorenoloved: should be, easier just to compile it then spend 1/2 hour finding a debian repo01:34
TheNetuser(#G1<:E=10M1) I have a question!01:34
DaSkreechnoloved: I think that kmplayer can do BBC streams01:34
Linux_Galorethan*01:34
Arwennoloved, medibuntu, I already told you!01:35
Arwen!medibuntu | noloved01:35
ubotunoloved: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org01:35
Arwengod01:35
Linux_Galoreaah01:35
nolovedI've got everything under the sun from medibuntu01:35
Arwenthen you should have ffmpeg01:35
Linux_GaloreArwen: I have tried mediabuntu and ffmpeg is still crippled01:35
TheNetuser(#G210E@10M1) Can I ask my question yet?01:35
ArwenLinux_Galore, in what way?01:35
TheNetuser(#G610EA10M1) <Chr>01:35
TheNetuser(#G:4:E74:RM1) <Chr>01:36
Linux_GaloreArwen: it doesnt transcode01:36
Linux_GaloreArwen: to many $$ formats01:36
Arweneh? I use mencoder so I don't notice :-\01:36
TheNetuser(#G1<:E;10M1) I have a question about KDE in WINE!01:36
ArwenTRANSCODING IS STUPID01:36
Arwen^^ - nuff said01:36
ArwenTheNetuser, you can't run KDE in WINE01:37
Arwennuff said01:37
TheNetuser(#G210E=10RM1) ?01:37
TheNetuser(#G210E=10RM1) I am right now!01:37
nolovedwhat's best Skype Static or Skype normal?01:37
daleWhats the differance?01:38
TheNetuser(#G210E=10RM1) I will flood if no one answers my question!01:38
noloveddon't knwo why the make two then01:38
TheNetuser(#G210E=10RM1) I can copy and paste from Slashdot GNAA posts!01:38
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stdin!ops01:38
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!01:38
Linux_GaloreI would have thought skype is skype01:38
nolovedTheNetuser: do you know what GNAA is?01:39
TheNetuser(#G210E=10RM1) !ops01:39
TheNetuser(#G210E=10RM1) Yes.01:39
TheNetuser(#G210E=10RM1) I post GNAA as First Post on Slashdot.01:39
dale?01:39
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TheNetuser(#G210E=10RM1) No!01:39
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nolovedrofl01:39
NonetLOL01:39
DaSkreechWhat the heck was that about?01:39
NonetIdiot.01:39
stdinthat was quick :)01:40
DaSkreechhe's been doing that in ##linux for the past 30 minutes01:40
nolovedradom talk01:40
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nolovedsome ppl must be really really bored01:40
NonetYou have been trolled by the LamenessTroll, by the way.01:40
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ladobboa noite!01:41
Nonet(Not that I am affiliated with him or anything.)01:41
ladobgood night!01:41
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DaSkreechstdin: since they just banned on IP address01:44
stdinDaSkreech: the ban was on Anonymou@*.pivot.net not the whole address01:46
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NonetI don't have the same IP!01:48
NonetMy IP is 10.0.0.1301:49
stdinexternal IP01:49
stdin[00:32]  --> Nonet has joined this channel (n=Larl@dsl-t5-66-243-207-7.pivot.net).01:49
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NonetHe must be hacking me.01:49
billytwowillyHi, anyone have idea on how to bind a key to a shortcut if when I press the key it shows up in xev, but when I select it         in short cuts for kaffeine it won't select?01:50
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devnullIs there a certain way to install gnome properly? Or do I just install the packages?01:51
stdindevnull: install ubuntu-desktop01:51
devnullstdin: awesome, ty ^_^01:51
stdinnp01:51
Schuenemannheh01:52
devnullI kinda like to flip around between kde and gnome01:52
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devnullPlus ubuntu's gnome implentation is the best out there01:52
=== stdin wouldn't know, not used gnome in years
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semistud2354hey im looking to run a virtual machine01:54
zippervmware?01:54
DaSkreech!vm01:54
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications01:54
semistud2354is there any way i can run 64 bit windows01:54
semistud2354on my 32 bit feisty01:54
devnullNope01:54
DaSkreechsure01:55
semistud2354lol01:55
zipperdevnull, even with vmware?01:55
semistud2354so yea or no01:55
DaSkreechit's a pain but yeah you can do it01:55
devnullafaik you can't do it very easily01:55
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intelikeyany draw back to not having an fstab ?01:55
DaSkreechdevnull: that's not the same as not being able to do it01:55
semistud2354can virtual box do it01:56
zipperintelikey, you mean besides having to mount everything yourself? Dunno if linux will even boot without "/" set01:56
stdinintelikey: only that things like /home /var /usr etc won't be automounted (if they are on separate partitions)01:56
intelikeyzipper i don't have fstab so i "guess" linux boots ok without it...01:57
stdinzipper: it will, root is set at boot, vmlinuz root=/dev/whatever01:57
zipperintelikey, what do you mean, dont have? Have you removed /etc/fstab ?01:57
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zipperah01:58
intelikeyzipper yeah01:58
zipperwhy?01:58
intelikeywhy not ?01:58
zipperlol01:58
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intelikey^501:58
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intelikeyok i can testify of one draw back  at 'halt/reboot' time mount looks for fstab or mtab to know how to remount,ro /   if your mtab is a symlink to /proc/mounts  it causes problems because umount -a will umount proc and thus mount doesn't know what to do with /02:00
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intelikeyi can easily compensate for that im my runtime configuration02:02
KprofthreatHey, what would happen if someone were to accidentally..um..delete their root partition?02:02
intelikeyand,  most people don't have /etc/mtab as a symlink anyway.02:02
stdinthen they'd be screwed02:02
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intelikeyKprofthreat they would have to reload.02:03
KprofthreatGoddamnit02:03
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intelikeynot a big deal really,   i used to reload twice a week whether i needed to or not...02:03
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DaSkreech*coughcough* Windows lover 8coughcoughcoughc*02:04
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stdinintelikey: I got my tinyurl script to let me give a message a swell as URL and nick, can you give the code a look over? see if there's anything I could do better? http://stdin.pastebin.us/3763002:05
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intelikeystdin sure02:06
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hilzhi all! I installed x11vnc server on kubuntu 7.04. i am trying to get it to start when i boot the system, so i put the command to launch it in /etc/rc.local but it doesn't seem to work. any idea what could be wrong?02:07
stdinhilz: because you aren't running a session at boot02:09
hilzstdin: so where is the right place to start the x11vnc server?02:09
stdinhilz: you need to be logged (to an X session) in to use it, so in ~/.kde/Autostart/02:10
stdin*logged in02:10
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hilzstdin: oh...that's sad!  so if i was not at home for example, and the power was lost and restored, i won't be able start the vnc server then! right?02:11
draikHow do I continue/resume an interrupted apt-get upgrade?02:12
stdinhilz: yeah, but there are other vnc servers that don't use the currently running X server02:12
stdin!vnc02:12
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX02:12
stdindraik: just run the command again, it should resume from where it left off02:13
hilzstdin: i tried many ones, and this was the only one that really works02:13
hilzstdin: some of the crash right when i connect02:13
hilzstdin: and some doen't even work02:13
soulrider_!gutsy02:13
ubotuGutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+102:13
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stdinhilz: look at the howto link ubotu posted, that should help (I don't use vnc so I can't really help)02:14
hilzok thanks guys02:14
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draikstdin: http://pastebin.ca/58673402:15
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stdindraik: post it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ I get a slow connection to pastebin.ca02:16
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draikstdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26951/02:17
stdindraik: "You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these." that may be a hint02:18
draikI did02:18
draikit's in there02:18
intelikeystdin   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37631    looks good,  i made one sujestion you might look at.02:18
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draikstdin: Line 2002:19
devnullAnyone have any idea how to get the "recently used programs" in the kde menu?02:19
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stdindraik: hmm, try "dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.4_i386.deb" maybe02:20
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stdinintelikey: the ease of reading was on my to-do list, so you saved me some time :)02:20
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draikstdin: That did it.02:21
stdinintelikey: and there are always 4 or more arguments given in konversation02:21
intelikeydraik looks like you have a broken package.   i sujest you rm /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.*   and try again.02:21
intelikeystdin ok i just thought a test would be a safty net02:22
draikstdin: I also keep getting  may CP:Cannot Stat /location/./././././: No such file or directory02:22
draikstdin: It's finishing up the upgrade right now. I will do that after.02:22
stdinintelikey: in any script it's "konversation ServerName Channel (anything the user supplies after)"02:22
draikintelikey: Hello. How's it been?02:22
draikDo I want the new KDMRC or stay with default?02:23
intelikeydraik well.    your copy of  /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.4_i386.deb  seems to be bad   re-get it and try.02:23
intelikeystdin ok.   but that is a .sh  and someone might try it elsewhere,  i still think a test wouldn't hurt.   but it's your baby.02:24
DaSkreechSoooo02:24
DaSkreechanyone recommends kubuntu for a 500 Mhz laptop with 250 megs of RAM02:25
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intelikeyDaSkreech hardware described exceeds what i'm running02:25
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stdinintelikey: it doesn't have the .sh extention and it's pretty clear that it's a konversation script, but hey-ho, it'd only be a one-liner02:26
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DaSkreechintelikey: For luddi type users02:26
intelikey[ "${#@}" -lt "4" ]  && exit 102:27
intelikeyDaSkreech is that another term for the "pointy clicky thingy, users" ?02:27
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DaSkreechintelikey: very much so02:28
intelikeyDaSkreech it still works as well or maybe a little weller than that M$ stuff on the same hardware.02:28
stdinintelikey: thinking about it, it will error out if there is not URL (on $4+), the only difference it that it sends the error to konversation via dcop :p02:28
intelikeyDaSkreech just keep the eyecandy to a lower limit and it's fine02:29
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stdinintelikey: line 37 (on your version)02:29
stdinand 4202:30
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stdin(tho the usage info is wrong now, so ignore that)02:30
intelikeystdin actually no.  it runs both the if * fi tests either way without that test   but like i said it looks ok as is.    and you pointed out that it's inteneded target will always supply the input      sooooooo02:31
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stdinanywho, i class it as a beta right now, but it works ok02:33
draikintelikey: Well, I did as you said.02:33
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stdin intelikey: so now I can give a description of the link along with the tiny URL http://tinyurl.com/3dkpev02:34
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stdin(http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37631)02:34
draikintelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26954/02:34
waylandbillwhere's the party? certainly there must be an install party going on somewhere!02:37
intelikeydraik  "pre-installation script returned error exit status 2  on package /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx* "  you need to see why   /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-glx.preinst  is erroring02:37
intelikeydraik it could be as benine as another package not installed/configured yet or as insidious as bashism with a #!/bin/sh call02:38
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waylandbillcertainly the error is logged02:39
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intelikeydraik console or terminal  sudo  /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-glx.preinst     for the output02:40
intelikeywaylandbill   Q. "what do linux users do?"          A. "they install software."      :)02:41
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waylandbillintelikey: of course. why else would we have apt or yast or rpm?02:42
intelikey!botsnack02:42
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!02:42
waylandbillor yum. :-D02:42
intelikeyreally   urpmi is my favorite02:42
stdin!opsnack | i like02:43
ubotui like: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!02:43
stdinhehe02:43
waylandbillI'm in love with aptitude and my wife hates the fact!02:43
waylandbill(not that she knows what it is)02:44
intelikeyaptitude as a command line tool is nice.  but as an ncurses application,,,   uuuh02:44
waylandbillyes. the gui is ... strange02:44
intelikeydoes that qualify as a GUI ?02:44
waylandbillyup02:45
stdinyeah, I think so02:45
intelikeyGTI = glorified text interface02:45
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intelikeyor are you guys seeing something in terminal that i'm not seeing in console ?02:46
waylandbillprogramming a decade or so ago, you'd of thought it awesome. :-)02:46
intelikeymaybe.  but i'd still have use the command line rather than the ncurses view02:47
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TrueFX02:47
intelikeythat's not TrueFX02:48
intelikey:)02:48
intelikey!tr02:50
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.02:50
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devnullinstalling the ubuntu-desktop-environment package. Does that also add the session to the kdm sessions list?02:50
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intelikeydevnull yeh02:51
devnullintelikey: ty ty02:51
anandanbuHow do i install SuperKaramba in Kubuntu 7.0402:51
bankseyHey guys, Anyone know a command to update WINE, Mines outa date and adept only has the one version, Any help would much be apprciated :)02:51
DaSkreech!wine02:51
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.02:51
DaSkreechbanksey: Plus winehq has an ubunturepo02:52
Tombar_uyany good guide/tutorial to install bery under ati and kubuntu you know guys?02:52
devnull!ati02:52
banana21Hi, I have a question. I just installed kubuntu in a dual boot setup with windows XP and am getting a blue screen "unbootable volume" error. Anybody want to help me?02:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:52
stdin\02:52
DaSkreech!beryl02:52
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects02:52
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Tombar_uythanks bot xD02:52
intelikeyDaSkreech the guy with the samba issue last night   never did ask anything else.   i don't know if he got it going or no...02:52
devnullthat was for me lol02:52
stdinanandanbu: isn't it already installed?02:52
DaSkreechintelikey: oh the missing Network card?02:53
intelikeyyeah02:53
DaSkreechk02:53
stdinanandanbu: huh, it isn't by default :p just install the package superkaramba02:53
intelikeyDaSkreech and the fellow you pointed at #ubuntu-effects said they fixed him right up... so that was a good call.02:54
anandanbustdin: how do i install that package02:54
DaSkreechintelikey: normally is02:55
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stdinanandanbu: either by opening adept and choosing the package, or with "sudo apt-get install superkaramba" in konsole02:55
intelikeyanandanbu the package manager comes to mind02:55
anandanbustdin : thanks02:55
intelikeywell i have sterelized all my personal scripts,  now if dpkg didn't have to have bash i'd remove it02:56
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TrueFXhi gusy02:57
TrueFXi ve got a question02:57
anandanbustdin : i have some of the icons in Kubuntu not showing up in the KDE menu02:57
TrueFXcan i prevent konversation from pasting text automatically02:57
TrueFXwhenever i paste something here its send automatically02:57
stdinanandanbu: what icons?02:57
TrueFXi just want to hit the enter key02:58
intelikeyTrueFX by not copying line ends maybe ?02:58
anandanbuin the start menu for some of the apps in the 'System' , 'Settings' and 'Utilities'02:58
TrueFXhow?02:58
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TrueFX:)02:58
TrueFXis there a paste protection in konversation?02:59
intelikeyonly highlight to the last char not past it02:59
intelikeynot that i know of02:59
TrueFXbut in every line there are line ends02:59
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stdinTrueFX: there is, it should be on by default02:59
TrueFXit's not by default02:59
TrueFXis there an option ?02:59
TrueFXi couldnt find it02:59
stdinlooking, I've never had to turn it on03:00
intelikeystdin if you cp/paste a full line with \n it doesn't post ?03:00
stdinintelikey: no, it shows a warning and even lets you edit it03:00
intelikeyhmmm i knew xchat did that.  but didn't think konvo did....03:01
intelikeysorry my bad.03:01
TrueFXin xchat its possible but i dont like its interface03:01
TrueFXand gnome programs03:01
shane2peruTrueFX: a cool trick to pasting in Linux is highlight and then with the middle button on the mouse click where you want to paste it and it pastes03:01
intelikeymaybe it just wasn't turned on and i didn't look for it,   "the one time i used konversation"03:02
shane2peruTrueFX: no copying and pasting, just highlight and middle click where you want the text.03:02
TrueFXi see03:03
TrueFXthx shane2peru03:03
TrueFX:)03:03
TrueFXthat was nice03:03
intelikeyshane2peru i like that even better without "klipper"  it's always whatever is light03:03
stdinTrueFX: ahh, it's under Notifications in "Warning Dialogues": "Warning on pasting large portions of text"03:03
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TrueFXit's turned on03:04
shane2peruTrueFX: that is a neat trick another Linux user taught me. :)  Pretty cool, sure beats windows.03:04
TrueFXthat was not what i was searchin for03:04
TrueFXshane has solved my problem03:04
TrueFX:)03:04
TrueFXok another question03:04
shane2peru maybe it just wasn't turned on and i didn't look for it,   "the one time i used konversation" <---  I just pasted this.03:04
TrueFXcan i paste from chm file to here03:04
TrueFXby coping?03:04
TrueFXby copy03:05
shane2peruI'm also using Konversation, new to chat, don't know much about this stuff.03:05
TrueFX#!/usr/bin/perl03:05
intelikey<shane2peru>  maybe it just wasn't turned on and i didn't look for it,   "the one time i used konversation" <---  I just pasted this.  <<<=== i just pasted that too.  and i don't even have x installed.03:05
TrueFXuse strict;03:05
TrueFXuse warnings;03:05
TrueFXwhile(<>){03:05
TrueFX   if(/\b\[A-Z] .*\b/){03:05
TrueFX   print;}03:05
TrueFX   };03:05
TrueFXthat was not what i was trying to paste03:05
shane2peruintelikey: What? did you use the middle mouse button trick?03:06
TrueFXintelikey?03:06
intelikeylike i said 'kill klipper'03:06
stdinTrueFX: if you can select text, you can paste it03:06
TrueFXwhat do u mean?03:06
TrueFXi have selected it03:06
TrueFXi have copied it03:06
TrueFXbut it pastes the previous copy03:06
anandanbuHow do i install new themes for kubuntu and also the font size in the kubuntu are too big03:06
TrueFXstrange03:06
stdinTrueFX: middle click after selecting it, no need to select "copy"03:06
intelikeyshane2peru left mouse highlight right mouse paste.   gpm = general purpose mouse   support for the console03:06
stdin!changethemes | anandanbu03:07
ubotuanandanbu: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.03:07
stdin!themes03:07
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy03:07
TrueFXi have right clicked03:07
TrueFXcopy and select all is available03:07
TrueFXi have copied03:07
TrueFXnow i paste it with ctrl+v03:07
shane2peruintelikey: so you are not using gui?03:07
TrueFX#!/usr/bin/perl03:07
TrueFXuse strict;03:07
TrueFXuse warnings;03:07
intelikeyshane2peru no.03:07
shane2peruintelikey: hey if it works for you, great :)03:07
stdinshane2peru: intelikey never uses X if he can help it03:07
TrueFXwhile(<>){03:07
TrueFX   if(/\b\[A-Z] .*\b/){03:07
TrueFX   print;}03:07
TrueFX   };03:07
TrueFXwrong paste03:07
TrueFXagain03:07
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intelikeyshane2peru it's not even installed03:08
DaSkreechcan  Konqui do Folder Thumbnails?03:08
shane2peruintelikey: well, then you are more savvy at this than I :)03:08
stdinTrueFX: there are 2 "clipboards" one for "right-click -> copy" and one for "select and middle-click"03:08
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intelikey?03:08
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intelikeyTrueFX  see the  "klipper" icon in the taskbar  it lets you select what you paste also.  but i find that klipper confuses the normal linux "highlight & middle click" method sometimes.03:10
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devnullIs there a knetworkmanager like application for gnome?03:12
stdindevnull: think so, tho it's better to ask in #ubuntu03:12
intelikeyyes i've not seen but heard some about it03:13
intelikeyis it 'networkmanager' or 'gnetworkmanager' ???03:13
intelikeysome claim it's better than the kde counterpart03:13
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stdinnetwork-manager-gnome03:14
intelikeythat's it03:14
intelikeyerrr is it ?03:14
stdinmaybe :p03:14
intelikeylet me think....03:14
SayersAnyone know of any good Multi-Track Music Studios ?03:14
intelikeyi think it's just networkmanager03:15
intelikey!info networkmanager03:15
ubotuPackage networkmanager does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:15
intelikeywell maybe not.03:15
stdinno, that's the base tool (and it's got a '-' in it)03:15
DaSkreechSayers: Hmm?03:16
stdin!info network-manager03:16
ubotunetwork-manager: network management framework daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.4-6ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 234 kB, installed size 584 kB03:16
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stdin!info network-manager-gnome03:16
ubotunetwork-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.4-6ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 253 kB, installed size 1696 kB03:16
intelikey!networkmanager03:16
ubotunetworkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager03:16
rodrigo_Hellooooo03:16
rodrigo_every body03:16
rodrigo_guess what03:17
DaSkreechclint eastwood is making a Viet cong movie from the perspective of the forest ?03:17
rodrigo_DaSkreech: something must polemic and awsome03:18
intelikeyhmmm i've used a web browser 158 minutes in seven days now.03:19
[Al] chemist_exanyone know a sulution for 64-bit users and compiz-fusion?03:19
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draikintelikey: I did the /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-glx.preinst and got "preinst called with unknown argument `' "03:21
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intelikeytry adding install    or   configure03:21
intelikeyor read the script and see which it needs....03:22
intelikeymaybe setup03:22
intelikeydpkg scripts are  wac  imo03:22
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Schuenemann!irda03:24
ubotuInformation about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto03:24
holliei cant open my cd tray03:25
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DaSkreechhollie: type eject in the command line03:26
hollieit belongs to root03:27
hollieive been editing fstab, i made a group for myself, and even user to me03:27
hollietrying to unmount it, i just want to eject03:27
DaSkreechsudo eject && sudo makemeasandwich03:27
draikI've done apt-get autoremove and apt-get autoclean03:28
draikI do apt-get upgrade and get this error...03:28
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holliewell of course, but i want a GUI user like my gf to be able to eject03:28
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draikhttp://pastebin.ca/58681103:29
draikhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26957/03:30
intelikeyhollie if nothing is using it  eject should work without sudo   "BUT" if something is accessing/reading you can't umount so you can't eject   also if /dev/cdrom doesn't point to the cdrom device you will need to specify the device    eject /dev/sdb    or  eject /dev/hdb   or something like that03:30
draikSame thing, diff locations.03:30
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intelikeydraik post the script i'll see if i can find out whats happening03:33
draikintelikey: What script?03:33
intelikey /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-glx.prerm03:33
ardchoilledraik: Where is it trying to get nvidia from?03:33
intelikeythe one that's erroring out03:33
draikI gave that to you earlier03:34
draikintelikey: I did the /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-glx.preinst and got "preinst called with unknown argument `' "03:34
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intelikeydraik no.  post the script itself.  the  /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-glx.prerm  one.03:34
draikintelikey: Sorry. One sec03:35
intelikeythat's the prerm  ^   the other was a preinst03:35
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holliethanks, take care03:36
draikintelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26958/03:36
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devnullTy for the network manager help ^_^ worked a charm03:37
draikintelikey: So what does this file do?03:37
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intelikeydraik edit that file and the two lines that say  "invoke-rc.d nvidia-glx stop || exit $?"   change  $?   to  0   that's zero.   save   and try your command.03:40
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intelikeyit's failing cause nvidia-glx is not already running.03:40
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draikintelikey: Can you do the change on the pastebin for me. I can't understand what you're typing. Sorry.03:40
draikChange "$?" to "0" or just the "?"03:41
intelikeymake this line >>> invoke-rc.d nvidia-glx stop || exit $? <<<   look like this  >>> invoke-rc.d nvidia-glx stop || exit $? <<<    two of them just alike.  in that file.   /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-glx.prerm03:41
intelikeyooops03:41
intelikeymake this line >>> invoke-rc.d nvidia-glx stop || exit $? <<<   look like this  >>> invoke-rc.d nvidia-glx stop || exit 0 <<<    two of them just alike.  in that file.   /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-glx.prerm03:42
intelikeythat  ^03:42
intelikeysorry about the typo03:42
intelikeythat's one example where dpkg scripts are 'wac'  that will fail if nvidia-glx is installed but not running.03:43
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draikintelikey: Ok, just change it to zero. Got it. Anything else?03:45
intelikeytry your  sudo apt-get upgrade     again03:46
mtvwhen i go to printers inside system settings and try to add a printer i get an error.  "Ann error occurred while retrieving the list of available backends: server-error-internal-error" what do i do?03:47
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draikintelikey: Nope. Still got the issue again03:47
draikShould I  "rm /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx_1%3a1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-16.28_i386.deb"?03:47
intelikeydraik same text or different ?03:47
draikI believe it's the same. Want a new pastebin?03:48
intelikeyna03:48
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draikintelikey: so should I?03:48
intelikeysudo dpkg -P --force-all nvidia-glx03:48
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intelikeyfirst step is getting the package manager streightened out,  then you worry about what you want to install.03:49
draikHmmm...03:49
draikintelikey: sent you PM03:50
intelikeyi see it.   anything else03:50
draikThat's it03:50
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intelikeyok try    sudo apt-get install -f03:50
draikok03:51
intelikeyno errors ?03:51
draik0 upgrade, 0 new install, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded03:51
intelikeyok.03:51
draikno errors03:51
intelikey  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:52
draikWhy does medibuntu work then give 404's all over the place.03:52
draikI can't continue because medibuntu 404'd on me03:52
intelikeylets see the sources.list03:53
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intelikeythat's /etc/apt/sources.list03:53
draikintelikey: it's all from source-o-matic03:54
draikintelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26959/03:54
intelikey!source-o-matic03:54
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:54
draikRight03:55
draikI used source-o-matic03:55
draikAnything wrong with my sources, intelikey03:57
intelikeydraik comment out all "deb-src"   lines for now   and try the update again03:57
intelikeyyou can add them back later if that helps.03:57
draikOk.03:57
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intelikeyi don't see anything that should cause issues but it may be a server down and using only whats needed is a good idea anytime.03:58
draikFor some reason, bleeding edge KDE and amaroK don't work03:58
draikever03:58
draikat all03:58
draikGo fig03:58
intelikeyyeah.   comment   #03:58
draikNo, I did that03:59
intelikeyk03:59
draikI mean before I added the #, they would fail access03:59
intelikeyyeah i got that.    ready to try        sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:59
draikahead of you.04:00
draikno errors04:00
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intelikeyk then i'll leave you alone and let you do what ever it is that you do.04:00
intelikey:)04:00
draikThank you.04:00
draikWhat's the src for?04:00
intelikeyand you're welcome04:00
intelikeysource packages.04:00
draikI don't want that?04:01
intelikeyif you want the source code of something you have installed.  you get the source package,04:01
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draikOther than that, the regular deb's will do. Is that a correct understanding?04:01
intelikeybut as a general rule most people seldom use deb-src *04:02
intelikeyyes correct04:02
draikThank you so much intelikey.04:02
draikYet again, you're the best04:02
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intelikeyand as i said,   if you need/want them   you can uncomment them later04:02
BluesKajintelikey, how does one install VMWare on linux ...I see various versions available ?04:02
iamcO_olhi04:02
iamcO_olwhat's the LiveCD password?04:03
iamcO_olI am trying to install irssi04:03
iamcO_olI hate Krapversation04:03
intelikeyBluesKaj actualy i never have.  kinda silly to try to run vertual machines on a p1 box  no?04:03
intelikeyiamcO_ol there isn't one04:03
intelikey!sudo | iamcO_ol04:04
ubotuiamcO_ol: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:04
intelikeyiamcO_ol need a root shell ?      sudo -i04:04
iamcO_oloh ok it did it04:04
iamcO_olsudo -i don't work04:04
iamcO_olfor nothing04:04
BluesKajyeah, but my son was asking me and I'm the supposed linux guru in the family ...I din't know what to tell him04:04
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: sudo apt-get install vmplayer04:04
intelikeyalways has for me  but i only go as far as dapper04:04
BluesKajnot the player nosrednaekim , the full dance card :)04:05
nosrednaekimtsk tsk..04:05
draiknosrednaekim: Does your kid watch Avatar: The Last Airbender?04:05
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intelikeyBluesKaj as i understand it you install  vmware-player   and it gets the correct kernel package  (maybe)04:06
iamcO_olaaaahh, oohhhh, freedom!!04:06
iamcO_olok how do I install Xen?04:06
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: its called bittorrent04:06
iamcO_olfrom scratch?04:06
stdinBluesKaj: you have to download it and run the install script, you'll probably need to compile the kernel modules too04:06
nosrednaekimdraik: heh, i'm 17...so I guess that would be a no?04:06
draiknosrednaekim: Whoops. Nevermind.04:06
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intelikeyBluesKaj then you add the other half of the system04:06
iamcO_olXen anyone?04:06
nosrednaekimiamcO_ol: on the liveCD?04:07
intelikey!xen04:07
ubotuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy04:07
stdinintelikey: the -player modules won't work with the workstation04:07
nosrednaekimstdin: nope.. they are prepackaged!04:07
iamcO_olnosrednaekim: I wanna do a Xen installatoin from start04:07
nosrednaekimdraik: lol04:07
nosrednaekimstdin: oh.. workstation... NM04:07
intelikeystdin the kernel module is needed though,  or am i all wet ?04:08
iamcO_olanyone/anybody know about Xen?04:08
intelikeylike i said i never did go through with installing that04:08
intelikeyiamcO_ol you ignoring the bot ?04:08
stdinintelikey: yeah, the download has some, but I don't know if they have the feisty modules, if not then you compile them (from the install script)04:09
BluesKajhehe , he has a university approved and distributed version , nosrednaekim04:09
iamcO_olintelikey: na I am checking it out04:09
draiknosrednaekim: Sorry, that question was to go to ardchoille04:09
BluesKajBTW I use ktorrent :)04:09
draikardchoille: Does your kid watch Avatar: The Last Airbender?04:09
intelikeystdin ah ok.   well BluesKaj see stdin.  stdin tell BluesKaj04:09
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: oh sweet...04:10
stdinBluesKaj:  the download has some, but I don't know if they have the feisty modules, if not then you compile them (from the install script)04:10
BluesKajok, stdin, thx04:10
stdinnosrednaekim: and you can use vmware for free without downloading a torrent, you just get a new eval licence from them each month04:10
intelikeyeval  ?04:11
intelikey:)04:11
stdineval(uation)04:11
nosrednaekimstdin: ah...04:11
intelikeyyeah let me pastebin soething for you... :)04:11
BluesKajsonhas some Linux buddies but they're all into mandriva or suse04:11
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stdintell him to get new buddies then :p04:12
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: and you made him use ubuntu...;)04:12
intelikeystdin  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37633   :)04:13
intelikeyeval04:13
BluesKajnot yet , that's whay he was asking about it , he doesn't know which VMWare version to use04:13
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: doe he have to be able to create VM's?04:14
nosrednaekim*does04:14
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: he should use KVM (if he has a recent enough computer04:14
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iamcO_oloh great, it doesn't explain how to install Xen from scratch04:15
stdinthere is easy-vmx to create VMs for the player04:15
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BluesKaji don't think he's real serious about linux anyway , he's too busy writing his thesis defence in excel right now to worry about linux distros :)04:15
DragnslcrI got an AM2 system just to try out some VM stuff, and I still haven't gotten around to it04:15
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DragnslcrI tried a little with VMWare, but I couldn't get it to work quite right04:16
nosrednaekimhaha04:16
BluesKajZen does sound interesting tho, stdin, nosrednaekim04:16
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: KVM didn't work with my Turion...04:16
intelikey!qemu04:16
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo04:16
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nosrednaekimbut qemu works fine04:17
stdinBluesKaj: Xen is much more complex tho, but you'd get better performance04:17
nosrednaekimZen?04:17
nosrednaekimdo you mean Xen?04:17
DragnslcrI think I tried Qemu. Can't remember offhand what went wrong04:17
iamcO_olnosrednaekim: oh man! don't tell me that I wanna try KVMized Xen04:17
BluesKajI'm taking a break from windows ...gonna try the 'cold turkey' route for a wheile04:17
nosrednaekimstdin: I don't know about that.... Phoronix ran a report on that...04:18
nosrednaekimthey were all REALLY close04:18
BluesKajwhile04:18
iamcO_olBluesKaj: that's actually the best way04:18
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iamcO_olnosrednaekim: is there?04:18
iamcO_olthat also another thing I wanted to find out04:18
DragnslcrI haven't used Windows on my desktop at home at all04:18
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: hehe...04:18
BluesKajyup, just like quitting the smokes...been 6 yrs now04:18
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: having never really used windows my whole life.. I find it easy to do without04:19
DragnslcrThey only program I want is the management program for my cell phone, but VMWare can't share my bluetooth adapter04:19
iamcO_olI wipe out m$$ from frieds computer, telling them is bad and use this instead04:19
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: wine?04:19
stdinintelikey: (re: eval) to be honest, I never use that damn command04:19
DragnslcrWine can't detect the adapter either04:19
iamcO_olor I give hell'uv excuses that m$$$ was not able to install and lot of driver problems04:19
iamcO_olLAMO04:19
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BluesKajit's hard for ppl like me who learned how to use a pc with windows to quit it entirely...like an addiction , but i'm getting there :)04:20
intelikeystdin me either....  even before having that explained to me....     and a lot of init scripts use it now...   (not my init of course)04:20
DragnslcrI had Kubuntu on a computer I was using for a home server for quite a while, so I handled the switch well04:20
iamcO_olok what's domU? where I am supposed to install Ubuntu in Dom0 or DomU??04:21
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DragnslcrI had been running Linux (originally RedHat) for a server for quite a few years04:21
stdinintelikey: for file in $(find /etc/init.d/);do grep -w "eval" && rm $file;done :p04:21
intelikeyBluesKaj it's not hard.   just read the M$ EULA before you use windows each time.   you won't use it more than two or three more times in your life.04:21
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intelikeystdin :))))04:22
BluesKajlol , intelikey  :>))04:22
DragnslcrOr reinstall Windows often enough to keep it running at full performance04:22
BluesKajvista was pure eye candy but a terribly arcane OS , IMO04:23
nosrednaekimmy freind has to do it every 6 months..04:23
intelikeyDragnslcr you can't it has to reboot durring install and the wrecks that idea04:23
DragnslcrI'm hoping to have time tomorrow to reinstall Kubuntu, but that's just because I'm finally surrendering to the amd64 version as a failed expoermient04:23
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DragnslcrYeah, every 6 months is about right04:23
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: eh.. I didn't hate it that bad..04:24
iamcO_olDragnslcr: why didn't work? I am about to install amd64 myself04:24
BluesKajno joy with 64 bit kubuntu, Dragnslcr?04:24
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: yeah...I don't like 64 bit yet..04:24
DragnslcrMostly just apps that haven't quite caught up yet04:24
DragnslcrFlash is probably the most well-known04:24
hitmanWillyonce most apps switch over to 64 bit, it'll be worth it04:24
DragnslcrYep04:25
iamcO_olROFL, you surrender 'cause of crappy flash?04:25
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DragnslcrMaybe another year or so04:25
iamcO_olwell there are a lot of workarounds for that, use 32bit Firefox04:25
nosrednaekim*ahem* skype* ahem*04:25
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: actually I got flash working real easy with ndpluginwrapper04:25
DragnslcriamcO_ol- there are others, like some of the development versions of Compiz stuff04:25
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hitmanWillyor 32 bit emul libs can handle it04:26
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intelikeyor a chrooted env04:26
iamcO_olDragnslcr: do you surrender 'cause of Compuz stuff?04:26
DragnslcrI'd rather not deal with Flash at all, really. I just used it as an example04:26
iamcO_olDragnslcr: use gnash04:26
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nosrednaekimbrrr...04:26
=== hitmanWilly likes his youtube too much :P
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intelikeywhat's youtube ?04:27
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hitmanWillylol04:27
=== nosrednaekim gets alot less adds when he disables flash
iamcO_olintelikey: what's interwebs?04:27
DragnslcrJust some crappy Flash site04:27
DragnslcrFlashBlock++04:27
intelikeyiamcO_ol beats me.... i just live here...04:27
johnnygHello! I just installed Feisty Fawn. Before upgrading and rsync'd my home folder. It resides here /media/disk/rsync-backup. What is the command to restore it to my new installation and where do I need to be in the dir structure before I run it?04:28
hitmanWillyiamcO_ol, well, you see, there's all these tubes hooked together....04:28
=== intelikey doesn't do flash java pdf windows ummm did i leave anybody out...
iamcO_olhitmanWilly: can email the intartubes?04:28
stdinintelikey: yeah, X04:29
DragnslcrPDF is okay, it's just Acrobat Reader that's terrible04:29
hitmanWillyiamcO_ol, as long as there's no clogs04:29
hitmanWilly:P04:29
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intelikeystdin but i do use x       Y! i started xorg just last weak04:29
nosrednaekimjohnnyg: cd  to /media/disk/rsyncwhatever04:30
intelikeythen removed it...04:30
stdinintelikey: and how long did it take for you to kill it?04:30
nosrednaekimjohnnyg: and then " cp -r /home/<your username>04:30
intelikeyah    a few minutes.   i was looking at some webpage04:30
johnnygnosrednaekim: thank you, trying that now04:30
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johnnygnosrednaekim: -r means recursive? meaning keep going and parsing "into" the dirs as you find them?04:32
Dragnslcrjohnnyg- yeah04:32
nosrednaekimjohnnyg: yah04:33
intelikeystdin in all honesty i find audacity easier to deal with than learning how to record from tape to cd .... so audacity requires x ...04:33
stdinahh, I found your weakness04:33
intelikey:)04:34
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=== nosrednaekim LOVES his X
intelikeytar -cf - "$1" | tar -xf - -C "$2"       where $1 is the existing dir    and $2 is the destination04:35
hitmanWillythere's ways to keep X under control04:35
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DragnslcrChains and a padlock?04:36
hitmanWillylol04:36
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hitmanWillynah, just not using an overly bloated WM/DE04:36
DragnslcrIsn't KDE the heaviest one of the bunch?04:36
hitmanWillyyup04:37
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johnnygnosrednaekim: please forgive my ignorance, but it didn't go as planned04:37
johnnygjohnny@johnny-laptop:/home$ cp -r /media/disk/rsync-backup/ .04:37
johnnygjohnny@johnny-laptop:/home$ ls -a04:37
johnnyg.  ..  home  johnny  rsync-backup04:37
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DragnslcrSo you just hang out in #kubuntu to pick up chicks?04:38
johnnygI want the home in the rsync-backup to become the home on this local box04:38
hitmanWillyDragnslcr, nah, i just hang out here to help out the newbies04:38
iamcO_olthe installation of Xen says it's made from an already installation04:38
johnnyghitmanWilly: Then it is your lucky day. Mr. Newb at your service. :)04:38
iamcO_olwill it be less if it's not installed from the beginning?04:38
hitmanWillyjohnnyg, ok, what you got?04:39
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hitmanWillyoh, NM...04:39
hitmanWillyshould probably pay more attention to the actual text scrolling by...04:39
johnnyghitmanWilly: I'm thinking this'll fit it  mv /home/rsync-backup/home /home   is that right?04:40
johnnyg*fix04:40
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hitmanWillyjohnnyg, i don't think mv works on dirs, at least not without the -r flag04:40
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intelikey-R04:41
johnnygso   mv -R /home/rsync-backup/home /home   ?04:41
intelikeybut beware you can't move what you can't rm04:41
hitmanWillyjohnnyg, and i'd reccommend you cp it first, in case something borks04:41
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johnnygcp -r /home/rsync-backup/home /home  ?04:42
hitmanWillyoh, wait, wait...04:42
intelikeytar -cf - "$1" | tar -xf - -C "$2"                 where $1 is the existing dir and $2 is the destination04:42
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johnnyghitmanWilly: I have not run it yet04:43
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=== hitmanWilly just uses tar for backups
hitmanWillyjohnnyg, its a capital -R,04:44
johnnyghitmanWilly: cp -R /home/rsync-backup/home /home04:44
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hitmanWillyi think...04:44
=== johnnyg looks up the difference between -r and -R
johnnygbig R is recursive04:45
DragnslcrOne works and the other doesn't04:45
johnnygso it little r04:45
nosrednaekimwith cp, both work04:45
johnnygman says they are aliases04:45
=== hitmanWilly can never remember which cmds take R and which take r
DragnslcrSome programs use -r for recursive, some use -R04:45
=== nosrednaekim neither
DragnslcrIt's a huge pain04:45
DragnslcrI think chmod/chown use -R04:45
hitmanWillythere's always the --recursive option04:45
johnnygI'm running cp -r /home/rsync-backup/home /home   let us pray.04:45
nosrednaekimand on some, -R does something totally different04:45
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hitmanWillythank god for man pages...04:46
navetsis there any way to make recordmydesktop make smaller video files?04:46
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Dr_willisnavets,  could just reencode them/resize them04:48
Schuenemanndoes anyone know how can I connect my cell phone to kubuntu using infrared?04:48
navetsDr_willis: what can I use to resize them?04:49
hitmanWilly!infrared04:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about infrared - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:49
hitmanWillycrap...04:49
Dr_willisdepends on their format. I use that avidumix to resize videos all the time04:49
Schuenemann!irda04:49
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ubotuInformation about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto04:49
SchuenemannI've been following this, but I get an error at a certain point04:49
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Schuenemannthis point: sudo modprobe irda004:49
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guga!lamp04:50
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)04:50
johnnyganother question while I am hearing that big cp command grind. I'm running on a Thinkpad T60p and my middle scroll button does not work. Google isn't telling me what conf to talk to, does anyone know offhand how to enable it?04:50
navetsDr_willis: ok ill try it04:50
hitmanWillySchuenemann, sorry, zero experience with IR04:50
SchuenemannI think nobody has heh04:50
hitmanWillySchuenemann, what error spits out on modprobe?04:50
Schuenemannsudo modprobe irda004:51
Schuenemannoops04:51
SchuenemannFATAL: Error inserting nsc_ircc (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/irda/nsc-ircc.ko): No such device04:51
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hitmanWillySchuenemann, there's the problem right there, you're missing a module04:51
navetsDr_willis: i cant find anything called  avidumix04:52
Schuenemannwhat can I do? I typed everything the tutorial stated04:52
hitmanWillySchuenemann, oh, sorry, read it wrong, it can't find the device...04:52
Schuenemannhmm04:52
MinatakuHeya, Dr_willis04:52
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Dr_willis!find avid04:53
ubotuFound: avida-base, avida-qt-viewer, avida-viewer, sword-comm-tdavid, avidemux04:53
Dr_willishay Minataku .04:53
Schuenemanncrap04:53
navetsDr_willis: is it avidemux04:53
hitmanWillySchuenemann, just make sure that the module is indeed there (the path is in the error msg)...04:53
navetsnot avidumix ?04:53
SchuenemannhitmanWilly, but that file is binary04:54
hitmanWillySchuenemann, i meant make sure the file itself actually exists04:54
Schuenemannwell, it does04:55
hitmanWillyok, just idiot checking myself...04:55
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hitmanWillySchuenemann, well, make sure that your card is even compatible with that particular driver, and go from there...other than that, i really can't be much help :(04:56
Schuenemanncard?04:57
Kr4t05Hrm... Does anyone have a way to install a slimmed-down Ubuntu onto a USB flash drive.04:57
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hitmanWillySchuenemann, the IR card or usb device or whatever is recieving IR signals from the phone04:57
Dragnslcr!alternate04:57
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal04:57
Schuenemanndo I need a special motherboard for that? I just bought this usb dongle04:58
DragnslcrYou can try the alternate CD, Kr4t0504:58
brian__is there a general users channel I should use instead of this one?04:58
hitmanWillySchuenemann, probably not, the USB interface should work fine if its supported04:58
Schuenemannhmmm ok... =/04:59
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Dr_willis!info  avidemux04:59
ubotuavidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB04:59
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Kr4t05Dragnslcr: Thanks... I'll try DSL-N, first.05:00
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iamcO_olhi05:03
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iamcO_olwhat can I use chown with LiveCD?05:03
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SchuenemannDr_willis, can I edit wmv with avidemux?05:05
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rohowhy does kate run for every file i download from konqueror?05:09
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level1_hello, what the package for the vm software called xen or zen or something?05:11
level1_can I apt-get it or do I have to configure it?05:11
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iamcO_olI wanna change permissions for USER in the LiveCD05:12
rohoand i can't remove kate without having to remove a bunch of other stuff05:12
iamcO_olI am trying to burn some info so I can wipe out the hdd05:12
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iamcO_olroho: ha ha ha, use another minimalist distro then05:12
rohoiamcO_ol: that's not helpful.05:12
level1_roho: you can change file associations05:13
iamcO_olhow dan I use chown in LiveCD?05:13
level1_roho: is it using it to open .deb files and binaries?05:13
iamcO_olroho: is the truth though05:13
roholevel1_: well, i've checked associations and it shows the right program is supposed to open the file05:13
roholevel1_: that happened, and also karamba files05:13
rohoanything off kde-look.org05:13
level1_roho: I have that problem too...05:13
hitmanWillyroho, the problem is the default kde install in kubuntu (kubuntu-desktop) is a kitchen sink meta package that depends on all the kde apps it can find05:14
rohohitmanWilly: is there a resolution?05:14
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roholevel1_: here's the bug report:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/4004705:14
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Dr_willisSchuenemann,  its not really an editor. its more of a 'converter/filter' system05:15
Dr_willisSchuenemann,  depends on what you really want to 'edit'  I dont touch WMV's in any case/ :) so no idea how it handles them05:15
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hitmanWillyroho, the best one ive found is to remove kde-desktop, autoremove, apt-get kde (meta-package that just gives you kde itself) and then manually apt the kde progs you want05:16
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SchuenemannDr_willis, wmv sucks, but I have a video in that format and would like to add subtitles to it05:16
rohohitmanWilly: *sigh*.  that will take forever05:16
hitmanWillyroho, its a pita, but you'll be gratefull once you do it05:16
rohoyou mean kubuntu-desktop, right?05:16
hitmanWillyroho, yeah, that one :)05:17
Dr_willisSchuenemann,  Now THAT might be doable.. Not sure about the wmv stuff however. I do recall it having some subtitle adding features05:17
BluesKajsacktime, ...niteynite05:17
SchuenemannI'll take a look at it, thanks05:17
hitmanWillyroho, or for a really minimalist setup, kde-base and work from there...05:17
rohoi don't necessarily want a minimalist setup05:18
hitmanWillyroho, honestly, i can't remember if the kde meta package depends on kate or not...05:18
rohoit does05:18
rohoto remove kate, you have to remove kubuntu-desktop05:18
rohoi wonder if you could remove kate, if it would open up the file in some other worthless program05:19
hitmanWillyroho, im talking about the other one, the actual apt-get install kde package05:19
hitmanWillyroho, i don't think it does, but im hnot sure about it05:19
hitmanWilly*not05:19
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navetshow can i resize a .avi to make it smaller?05:20
hitmanWillyroho, actually, if you installed that one first, then removed kubuntu-desktop, then autoremoved, you wouldn't have to reinstall kde...05:21
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MinatakuDr_willis: Not to rush ya or anything, but what's the status on the Amigas?05:21
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rohohitmanWilly: huh?05:21
rohowhich one first?05:21
MinatakuSchuenemann: If you're still there, try mencoder05:22
MinatakuPut it in a different format05:23
Dr_willisMinataku,  i did grab a Large box from work today. :)05:23
hitmanWillyroho, try installing the kde package (apt-get install kde), then removing kubuntu-desktop, then apt-get autoremove, that should get rid of all the unnecessary cruft without having to reinstall all of kde05:23
MinatakuOne friendlier to us05:23
MinatakuDr_willis: Sweet. :305:23
rohohitmanWilly: alright, i'll try05:23
SchuenemannMinataku, I tried, but I don't know how to use that05:23
MinatakuOn a side note, my Macintosh Classic has been running all day05:23
navetsDr_willis: avidemux wont let me open an avi file I just created with recordmydesktop05:23
Dr_willisMinataku,  its just hard finding a decent STURDY box at times. :) thats the right size. This one had some AllenBradly CNC controller parts in it. heh.05:23
MinatakuSchuenemann: I sent Dr_willis a memo about it05:23
navetsDr_willis: any suggestions?05:23
MinatakuDr_willis: You still have the command syntax from that memo I sent you?05:24
hitmanWillyroho, just be careful, you'll most likely have to reinstall several apps, including konversation (if you use that)05:24
Dr_willisnavets,  run it from a terminal and check the error/info.05:24
MinatakuAbout mencoder?05:24
SchuenemannDr_willis, stop censoring the memo!05:24
Dr_willisMinataku,  not that i rember.05:24
rohowell, kde-core is something that has to go if you get rid of kate05:24
Schuenemann:-)05:24
Dr_willisMinataku,  i dont rember any memo!05:24
MinatakuHeh05:24
rohois there a way to ignore dependencies?05:24
MinatakuDr_willis: /msg memoserv list05:24
MinatakuSee if they're still there05:24
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MinatakuThis network is very secretive about memos05:24
daleHello05:24
MinatakuX305:24
Dr_willisheh i got 4 old memos05:24
MinatakuProbably all from me05:25
MinatakuXD05:25
daleWhats apps use the kde wallet?05:25
Dr_willisffmpeg -f flv -i inputfile.flv -f avi -o outputfile.avi05:25
dale?05:25
MinatakuAh05:25
Dr_willisOops, sorry, there's no "-o", correct syntax should be: ffmpeg -f flv -i inputfile.flv -f avi outputfile.avi05:25
MinatakuThat's right, I used ffpeg05:25
MinatakuSame diff all the same05:25
TrueFXhi guys05:25
daleWhats apps use the kde wallet?05:25
Dr_willisAlso, if you need to force a specific audio/video codec combo: ffmpeg -f flv -i inputfile.flv -vcodec blah -acodec blah outputfile.avi05:25
TrueFXgood morning05:25
TrueFXi ve got a question05:25
MinatakuThat's for converting FLV to whatever05:26
TrueFXdoes amule use the same network with emule?05:26
MinatakuJust replace flv with the input format05:26
hitmanWillyroho, the only way i can think of is to go from the complete base package (kde-base) and install all the apps individually05:26
guga_can i use eclipse as an IDE for python?05:26
daleWhats apps use the kde wallet?05:26
SchuenemannI'll install ffmpeg05:26
Dr_willisMinataku,  setting up my MythTV box to recprd some shows for me to watch at work next week. :)05:26
TrueFXwhenever ii search for something result is so limited in kubuntu amule05:26
Dr_willisDid i Miss the Robot Chicken starwars special?05:26
TrueFXbut in windows emule i ve got more results05:26
rohohitmanWilly: that's lame.  i might as well just not use konqueror05:26
MinatakuSchuenemann: Any further questions about ffmpeg, please consult the manual page :305:26
Minataku!patience | dale05:26
TrueFXwhat's the reason behind that?05:26
ubotudale: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:26
hitmanWillyroho, why do you want to get rid of kate, anyway?05:26
rohothere has got to be a better workaround05:26
TrueFXanybody knows why?05:27
rohohitmanWilly: i don't, really.  i want to be able to download files from kde-look.org05:27
MinatakuTrueFX: Predjudice?05:27
TrueFX??05:27
navetsDr_willis: it says ogg file detected...05:27
TrueFXwhat do u mean?05:27
TrueFXby prejudice?05:27
rohoonce those files are downloaded, konqueror launches them in kate05:27
rohoit's quite annoying05:27
MinatakuTrueFX: I dunno, maybe they don't like Linux users05:27
TrueFXthat's not prejudice the truth05:27
TrueFXreally05:27
MinatakuTrueFX: I'm j/k, I don't know wht05:27
Minataku*why05:27
hitmanWillyroho, oh, right click and "save as"05:27
TrueFXi ask that seriouslu05:27
guga_can i use eclipse as an IDE for python?05:27
rohohitmanWilly: you can't, it's a php file that redirects you05:27
navetsdoes anyone know of a good app to convert .ogg to .avi05:28
navets?05:28
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TrueFXwhat does j/k mean?05:28
Minatakunavets: OGG is audio05:28
Schuenemannjoking05:28
TrueFXim not native english speaker05:28
MinatakuAVI is video container05:28
rohois there a way to just tell konqueror to SAVE everything it downloads? instead of launching an application?05:28
MinatakuTrueFX: "Just Kidding"05:28
MinatakuIt means I'm joking05:28
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guga_can i use eclipse as an IDE for python?05:28
stdindale: mostly KDE pim (personal information manager) apps, like kmail and Kontact05:28
TrueFXwht?05:28
TrueFXand wht05:28
MinatakuTrueFX: We have localized help channels05:28
hitmanWillyroho, it should be in konq's web settings somewhere...05:28
rohoyeah.05:28
MinatakuWhat is your native language?05:28
TrueFXturkish05:28
MinatakuAh05:28
MinatakuYeah, we don't have one for that05:29
Minataku>.<05:29
TrueFXspeak french and spanish too05:29
MinatakuWhich is the best and which is second best?05:29
TrueFX?05:29
hitmanWillyMinataku, you're forgetting theora when you say ogg is audio...05:29
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guga_can i use eclipse as an IDE for python?05:29
TrueFXturkish english french german spanish05:29
rohohitmanWilly: i'll find it, i guess05:29
MinatakuhitmanWilly: s/forgetting/not\ knowing/05:29
navetsMinataku: are you sure because I am opening it with kaffine and watching a video05:29
TrueFXand a little italian05:29
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Minatakunavets: Not sure at all05:29
Minatakulol05:29
navetslol05:29
MinatakuTrueFX: Heh05:29
TrueFXso05:30
navetsanyone know a good app to convert .ogg to .avi?05:30
MinatakuTrueFX: Well, I don't know why aMule would get less results05:30
TrueFXwhat does wht stand for?05:30
guga_can I use eclipse as an IDE for python?05:30
Minatakunavets: ffmpeg05:30
hitmanWillyMinataku, i would've figured you knew about theora...its a video format that uses the ogg container05:30
MinatakuTry that05:30
MinatakuhitmanWilly: I'm an MP3 guy05:30
guga_Someone?...Please?...05:30
MinatakuNot an OGG gut05:30
Minataku*guy05:30
TrueFXwho knows about what i ve asked?05:30
TrueFXcrippled amule?05:30
MinatakuI've been using MP3 since that's all there was05:31
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TrueFXive searched for perl books with 10 or so results05:31
Schuenemannguga_, http://wiki.python.org/moin/EclipsePythonIntegration05:31
TrueFXit would give more than a hundred books on htat in emule05:31
guga_thankz!05:31
hitmanWillyor i should say, ogg/vorbis05:31
SchuenemannTrueFX, global search?05:31
rohothere are plenty of great mp3 players out there that play ogg05:32
TrueFXyep05:32
rohowho needs an ipod?05:32
hitmanWillynot me05:32
SchuenemannI would need one if I had money05:32
navetshow do I use ffmpeg?05:32
navetslol05:32
SchuenemannTrueFX, on the same server?05:32
navetsis there a gui?05:32
Minatakunavets: man ffmpeg05:32
navetsk05:32
MinatakuWho needs a GUI?05:32
MinatakuJust slows things down05:32
navetsi like GUI's05:32
hitmanWillynavets, no gui, but there are front-ends available05:32
Schuenemannbut they require less memorization05:32
Schuenemannif you have to read the manual, the command line becomes slower05:33
MinatakuSchuenemann: Laziness is never an excuse05:33
navetshitmanWilly: what is a front-end?05:33
hitmanWillythe only command you ever need to memorize is 'man' :P05:33
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navetshaha05:33
navetsi see \05:33
Dr_willisman info05:33
Schuenemannwell, that's slower than a GUI05:33
Schuenemannthe man pages could have more examples05:34
TrueFXyep05:34
TrueFXedonkey205:34
hitmanWillynavets, a gui app that interacts with an existing program05:34
stdinnavets: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontend05:34
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MinatakuSchuenemann: It's also lazier and leaves you screwed in the event you lose the ability to use the GUI05:34
keatonCan someone help me mount my MP3 player manually? KDE's Daemon thinks it's a camera and won't mount it.05:34
Dr_willisuse front end in a sentance.. "Boy that chick has a really nice frontend.. to her video encoding software"05:34
SchuenemannMinataku, if I lose the GUI, the 'man' will be waiting for me :-p05:35
navetsif im trying to make a video to put on the internet what would my target type be?05:35
navetsvcd?05:35
Dr_williskeaton,  you sure its not just using a 'camera' icon..05:35
hitmanWillySchuenemann, you could always contribute some to the LDP...write examples to your hearts content :)05:35
Minatakunavets: MPEG1/MP305:35
keatonDr_willis: yup, it uses some sort of camera protocol in Konqueror.05:35
Schuenemannhehe05:35
keatonReturns an error and I can't get into my stuff.05:35
Dr_williskeaton,  use the shell.. :)05:36
keatonThat's what I need help with.05:36
Dr_willissee what its doing. Check the mount command.05:36
keatonI tried mount myself, and it didn't work.05:36
stdinkeaton: you need to find the device it's been allocated, use the command "dmesg|tail" and post that to pastebin05:36
MinatakuDr_willis: I got batteries for that third calculator, the one with the alphanumeric LCD :D05:36
SchuenemannMinataku, Unknown input or output format: wmv05:36
Dr_williskeaton,  'mount' should show what/how its mounted...05:36
Schuenemannmaybe ffmpeg can't handle wmv?05:36
TrueFXhow can i buffer through leftside?05:36
rohohitmanWilly: there's no fix.05:37
Dr_willisSchuenemann,  i would be very suprised if it DID handle them.05:37
MinatakuSchuenemann: One sec, there's a command to get what yours supports05:37
TrueFXls -al |grep for example05:37
MinatakuDr_willis: It DOES05:37
MinatakuMine does, anyway05:37
keatonDr_willis: I don't know how to check the mount command if it's automounting. I don't know what options it's using!05:37
hitmanWillySchuenemann, i believe you need the win32codecs package for wmv05:37
Schuenemannwhy microsoft always create some non-standard crap?05:37
Dr_willisMinataku,  heh - Ive been tossing all sorts of odd file formats at it lately.. been having issues with several. :)05:37
TrueFXinstead of that "result" some operator "ls -al"05:37
Minatakuffmpeg -formats05:37
TrueFX<<<<<<05:37
hitmanWillySchuenemann, so they control them05:37
TrueFXleft side05:37
MinatakuDr_willis: *buntu's may have all sorts of horrific deficiencies05:37
stdinkeaton: do you know the device name?05:37
Dr_williskeaton,  the command is 'mount' :) it shows whats mounted and where.... ( get it.. the command IS 'mount'05:37
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navetshow do I exit the man files lol05:38
Minatakunavets: Hit "q"05:38
navetsthx05:38
Dr_willisMinataku,  could be ya are using a newer version also.05:38
Minatakunp05:38
keatonstdin: the device name should be keatonguy.05:38
SchuenemannI see wmv1 to 405:38
MinatakuDr_willis: Newer version + practically all of the USE flags05:38
Schuenemannto 3*05:38
Dr_willisMinataku,  :)05:38
stdinkeaton: no, the device name as in /dev/sdXX05:38
MinatakuSchuenemann: For video, wmav1 or wmav205:38
keatonstdin: oh, right. sda.05:38
SchuenemannMinataku, any clue on what is the difference between them or they're all the same MS shit?05:38
Dr_willisMinataku,  all 100000000+ of them.05:38
Schuenemannok05:39
navetsi got this error05:39
MinatakuRather, for both audio/video, I believe05:39
navetshome/navets/beryl.ogg: I/O error occured05:39
navetsUsually that means that input file is truncated and/or corrupted.05:39
stdinkeaton: try "pmount /dev/sda keatonguy05:39
MinatakuSchuenemann: Differing versions, I believe05:39
SchuenemannMinataku, damn, wmav1-2 is not listed05:39
navetsanyy suggestions?05:39
Schuenemannoops, it is05:39
Minatakulol05:39
Schuenemannbut still says unsupported05:39
keatonstdin: it says /dev/sda/ dosen't exist.05:40
hitmanWillyyup, crippled out of the box...05:40
stdinkeaton: no slash at the end of the file name05:40
keatonstdin: same error05:40
Schuenemannffmpeg -f wmav1 -i movie.wmv -f avi -o outputfile.avi05:40
stdinkeaton: you typed in exactly: pmount /dev/sda keatonguy ?05:40
Minataku[23:24:24]  Dr_willis Oops, sorry, there's no "-o", correct syntax should be: ffmpeg -f flv -i inputfile.flv -f avi outputfile.avi05:41
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Schuenemannomg...05:41
keatonstdin: yes, that exactly.05:41
MinatakuNo -o05:41
Schuenemannsame error :-/05:42
Schuenemannffmpeg -f wmav2 -i movie.wmv -f avi outputfile.avi05:42
Dr_willis'friends dont let friends  use wmv' :)05:42
keatonstdin: Maybe I'm just not explaining this very well. The device isn't mounted at all, the daemon fails to automount it, because it thinks it's a camara and therefore uses soem contrived "camara:/" protocol instead of just mounting it as a USB mass storage device.05:42
Dr_willistry 'file movie.wmv' see what it says it is?05:42
MinatakuSchuenemann: You probably need that w32codecs package05:42
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MinatakuYou may also try not forcing the input file05:42
Dr_williskeaton,  it 'should' be showing up as some /dev/sd## in any case.05:43
SchuenemannI already have that package05:43
Dr_williskeaton,  some camreas have a usb device 'mode' that needs to be enabled.05:43
SchuenemannDr_willis, movie.wmv: Microsoft ASF05:43
MinatakuHm05:43
stdinkeaton: what does "ls /dev/[h,s] d[a-z] *" show?05:43
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mrynithow do i upgrade  kubuntu 6.10 to 7.0405:44
keaton/dev/hdc  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda5  /dev/sdc  /dev/sde05:44
keaton/dev/sda  /dev/sda2  /dev/sdb   /dev/sdd05:44
MinatakuTry: ffmpeg -vcodec wmv2 -acodec wmav2 -i movie.wmv -f avi outputfile.avi05:44
stdin!upgrade | mrynit05:44
ubotumrynit: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)05:44
MinatakuOr differing numbers on those05:44
SchuenemannMinataku, different error now05:44
stdinkeaton: ok, try this: "pmount /dev/sda1 camera1"05:45
MinatakuWhat error?05:45
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SchuenemannI'd better use pastebin05:45
keatonOkay, it says "device /dev/sda1 is already mounted to /"05:45
keatonI assume this means sda1 is actually my hard drive.05:45
stdinyeah05:46
Dr_willisYep05:46
navetsok is this the right command?05:46
SchuenemannMinataku, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26969/05:46
navetsffmpeg -i ~/beryl.ogg -target MPEG1 ~/beryl.avi05:46
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navetsI keep getting I/O error05:46
MinatakuSchuenemann: Force output codecs then, too05:47
Dr_willis!find ffmpeg05:47
ubotuFound: ffmpeg, ffmpeg2theora, gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg, libxine1-ffmpeg (and 1 others)05:47
stdinkeaton: 1st unplug it, then make sure that if the camera has a "webcam" (or similar) mode it's not set to it and then plug it back in and run that command again05:47
MinatakuTry: ffmpeg -vcodec wmv2 -acodec wmav2 -i movie.wmv -vcodec mpeg1video -acodec mp3 outputfile.avi05:47
keatonstdin: It's not a camara. It's an MP3 player.05:48
keatonstdin: My computer thinks it's a camara.05:48
stdinkeaton: yeah :p that's what I meant :)05:48
Schuenemannsee why a GUI is cool? :-P05:48
MinatakuNo05:48
Schuenemannsame error *sigh*05:48
stdinkeaton: umm, what make/model ?05:48
MinatakuWith a GUI we'd lose that error info05:48
MinatakuSchuenemann: Exact same? Paste it again05:48
MinatakuThe new one05:48
mrynitit says i need update manager i dont have it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyUpdatesEnabled05:48
keatonstdin: Creative ZEN V Plus05:49
SchuenemannI'm talking about a GUI having a 'dump' area heh05:49
Schuenemannok, just a sec05:49
Dr_willis!find theora05:49
ubotuFound: libtheora-dev, libtheora0, ffmpeg2theora, gstreamer0.8-theora, libtheora-bin05:49
Dr_willis ffmpeg2theora  seems interesting05:49
Dr_willis!info  ffmpeg2theora05:49
ubotuffmpeg2theora: Theora video encoder using ffmpeg. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.16-2build1 (feisty), package size 20 kB, installed size 96 kB05:49
SchuenemannMinataku, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26970/05:49
MinatakuHuh05:50
stdinkeaton: hmm, see if amarok can see it05:50
SchuenemannI'll try with a different file, maybe this one is messed05:51
Schuenemannbah05:52
Schuenemannsame result05:52
stdinkeaton: open amarok and go to Settings -> Configure Amarok -> Media Devices05:52
MinatakuNo, it's just not grabbing the output audio codec for some reason05:52
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se7enis there a software like filemaker for a offline customer database05:52
MinatakuChange the outputfile.avi to outputfile.mpeg05:53
MinatakuSee if it's grabbing on the filename and that's messing it05:53
keatonstdin: Amarok dosen't see anything.05:53
SchuenemannMinataku, sorry, I don't understand05:53
keatonstdin: I'm just going to send my music over network to a windows comptuer, much as I wish I didn't have to.05:53
brian__anyone had any luck getting a java plugin for firefox on ubuntu05:54
MinatakuSchuenemann: In the command line, change "outputfile.avi" to "outputfile.mpeg"05:54
stdinkeaton: did you click "Autodetect Devices" ?05:54
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Schuenemanndone that05:54
MinatakuStill nothing?05:54
SchuenemannI didn't get the second part05:54
MinatakuSchuenemann: Nevermind it05:54
keatonstdin: yup, it didn't pick up anything.05:54
Schuenemannwhat do you mean? the file is empty05:54
rohois it possible to get konqueror to not open a helper application and instead to just save a file to disk?05:54
Schuenemann0 bytes05:54
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MinatakuTry: ffmpeg -vcodec wmv2 -acodec wmav2 -i movie.wmv -vcodec mpeg1video -acodec mp3 outputfile.mpeg05:55
stdinbrian__: 32 or 64 bit?05:55
MinatakuJust try that05:55
brian__32 bit05:55
MinatakuSee if it works or if it gives the same error05:55
Schuenemannsame error :(05:55
stdinMinataku: shouldn't it be -vcodec wmv3 ?05:55
SchuenemannMinataku, did any of these work for you?05:55
MinatakuSchuenemann: You must not have the capability to write MP305:55
stdinbrian__: just run "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin" that's it05:55
Schuenemannyou mean I should have?05:56
brian__thanks, it wasnt in the package manager05:56
brian__so I wasnt sure where to find it05:56
Minatakustdin: It doesn't matter, it's picking up on it all the same05:56
stdinbrian__: are you on dapper, edgy, or feisty ?05:56
brian__edgy05:57
MinatakuSchuenemann: Well, if we want to convert the audio stream to MP3, you need MP3 writing capability05:57
Schuenemannyep, I need that05:57
Minataku!mp305:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:57
stdinbrian__: you may have to enable the universe and multiverse repositories first then05:57
MinatakuSee if any of those get you something like "lame" which is an MP3 encoder05:57
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brian__hmmm yeah looks like I need more repositories05:58
brian__it just says cant find package05:58
stdin!repos | brian__05:58
ubotubrian__: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:58
stdinbrian__: that page will tell you how05:58
SchuenemannMinataku, shouldn't I just install that lame?05:58
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mrynit!kde05:58
brian__thanks05:58
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.05:58
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Minataku!info lame05:58
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB05:58
MinatakuCould try it05:58
Schuenemannwhat? you just said it IS an mp3 encoder :p05:59
RadiantFireof course that is a blatant lie and lame is actually an mp3 encoder05:59
MinatakuIt's making fun of WINE05:59
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RadiantFireSchuenemann: it started off as an addon processor for mp3 encoding, but wasn't standalone, th ey added that capability later05:59
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MinatakuAh05:59
Schuenemannhmm06:00
stdinMinataku: but WINE is not an emulator06:00
RadiantFireI think06:00
RadiantFirethis is true06:00
Schuenemannwell, I just installed lame06:00
Minatakustdin: It's a system call translator06:00
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RadiantFireone of these days I must look at the source for wine, i've wondered how they do that06:00
mrynithow do i upgrade kde 3.5.5 to 3.5.6 on edgy?06:00
MinatakuSchuenemann: Try the command again, then06:00
Schuenemannsame error06:00
stdin(compatibility layer)06:00
MinatakuSchuenemann: Can always try raw PCM06:01
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RadiantFireSchuenemann: I'm sorry what are you trying to do, lost it on the scrollback06:01
stdinmrynit: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php06:01
MinatakuOr vorbis, or whatever the hell stupid crap *buntu wants you to use06:01
SchuenemannI want to edit a wmv video, adding subtitles06:01
Schuenemannand we've been trying to convert it to avi06:02
RadiantFiremencoder?06:02
Schuenemannor any non-M$ stupid file format06:02
Schuenemannffmpeg06:02
MinatakuWe can get as far as the video06:02
RadiantFiremencoder relies on ffmpeg I think06:02
Minatakuffmpeg is confusing itself on the output codec06:02
RadiantFireyou can strip an audio stream out using mplayer and multiplex is back in later I think06:02
stdinRadiantFire: nope06:03
RadiantFiresomething liek -ao pcm:file="output"06:03
MinatakuTry: ffmpeg -vcodec wmv2 -acodec wmav2 -i movie.wmv -vcodec mpeg1video -acodec vorbis outputfile.mpeg06:03
MinatakuSee if that works06:03
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RadiantFireI would seriously recommend mencoder though, might be a little easier06:03
MinatakuIf that doesn't work, I'm going to sleep06:03
Schuenemannthis one was different06:03
RadiantFireI think it relies on ffmpeg internally06:03
Schuenemannthe same error message, but some million times06:03
MinatakuO.o06:03
SchuenemannRadiantFire, how would it be with mencoder?06:04
MinatakuRadiantFire: You take over here, then06:04
RadiantFireI'm looking now, its been a while06:04
MinatakuI'm out of ideas06:04
MinatakuSorry I couldn't help, Schuenemann06:05
Schuenemannit's still outputting the message heh06:05
Schuenemannthanks06:05
stdinRadiantFire: mencoder doesn't depend on ffmpeg06:05
stdinSchuenemann: or just use mplayer with "-dumpstream" or even VLC (which has a GUI) to do it06:06
Schuenemannerror, non monotone timestamps 23263608 >= 23263608e= 276.6kbits/s06:06
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Schuenemannstdin, will be dumped into what?06:06
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stdinSchuenemann: with mplayer it'll be raw, with VLC it has several formats to choose from06:07
MinatakuSchuenemann: It sounds like it's encoding06:07
MinatakuIt's just complaining a lot06:07
SchuenemannMinataku, it was converted, with sound though06:07
Schuenemannwithout*06:07
MinatakuHeh06:07
dthacker-ltwhere can I tell the window manager to make a window active on mouseover?06:07
Schuenemannjust some weird noises06:07
MinatakuYeah, follow their suggestions then06:08
Dr_willisdthacker-lt,  not sure kde's window manager has that feature06:08
MinatakuThis oversimplistic distribution constantly frustrates any effors to do things the truly easy way06:08
Schuenemannlet me try the mplayer06:08
MinatakuThis is why I use Gentoo06:08
MinatakuI don't have to put up with any of this retarded crap06:08
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Schuenemanngentoo you have to recompile the kernel everytime you move the mouse06:09
stdindthacker-lt: System Settings -> Window Behaviour06:09
NickPrestaMinataku, what crap? Forgive me, I've been away the last couple hours.06:09
Dr_willisyou have distcc set up on 100 PDP/11's :)06:09
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MinatakuSchuenemann: I'll kindly request you actually know something about a distribution before making rude comments about it06:09
RadiantFireok, so, lets try mencoder movie.wmv -o movie.mpeg -oac mp3lame -oac lavc lavcopts=vcodec=mjpeg06:09
MinatakuDr_willis: If I had one PDP/11 it'd be too much06:09
MinatakuUnless it was an LSI-11 of some kind06:10
hitmanWillySchuenemann, nah, just everytime you reboot :P06:10
RadiantFireSchuenemann: did ya get th at?06:10
NickPrestaI use Gentoo for my server. It works quite nice. Compile my server and such, leave it running. I would otherwise compile my server software anyways and Gentoo provides me with a fairly lean installation....06:10
Minataku 00:09:33 up 104 days, 19:35,  6 users,  load average: 0.02, 0.05, 0.0106:10
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MinatakuNot that you have to reboot06:10
Schuenemannthe mplayer -dumpstream worked06:11
MinatakuhitmanWilly: That's why I didn't say anything06:11
Minatakulol06:11
SchuenemannRadiantFire, will try now06:11
RadiantFireI used to use gentoo, to much care and feeding06:11
NickPrestaFor desktop usage, I rarely see any benefit in compiling your own software as opposed to using binaries.06:11
RadiantFireer, used06:11
RadiantFiregentoo you can have a barebones server up and running faster than any other distro :-)06:11
SchuenemannRadiantFire, No video encoder (-ovc) selected. Select one (see -ovc help).06:11
MinatakuNickPresta: That's where the benefit is the greatest06:11
hitmanWillyok, stupid question, would it be possible to play it using mplayer or something and redirecting the output to ffmpeg?06:11
RadiantFireSchuenemann: thats my fault, the second oac should be ovc06:11
MinatakuEspecially with a properly configured custom kernel06:11
dthacker-ltstdin: yes, there it is.  The policy dropdown06:11
stdinSchuenemann: replace the 2nd "-oac" with "-ovc"06:12
NickPrestaMinataku, for most things, you would be hard pressed to find any astounding optimization benefits.06:12
Schuenemannit's converting06:12
SchuenemannI think06:12
MinatakuI'm a motorsports fanatic. To me, one second is an insanely long amount of time.06:12
stdindthacker-lt: no problem :)06:12
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Schuenemannlot's of duplicate frames, according to console06:12
RadiantFirethats ok, it happens06:13
RadiantFireat least its working :-)06:13
NickPrestaMinataku, heh. I understand where you're coming from. For me, I am satisfied with binaries for most things. I can still compile my own on Kubuntu if I wish =P06:13
MinatakuPlus, a custom kernel is the best no matter what06:13
RadiantFiresomeone should write a frontend for mencoder, if it hasn't already been done06:13
MinatakuEspecially a PREEMPT one with 1000Hz06:13
MinatakuMakes everything fly06:13
SchuenemannRadiantFire, for sure06:14
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RadiantFireI'll add that to my todo list...06:14
RadiantFireif I can't find one06:14
Schuenemannthis converting is a lot slower than using mplayer06:14
RadiantFirecuz its not dumping the stream its actually transcoding06:15
Schuenemannit has to uncompress and then compress again?06:15
hitmanWillySchuenemann, yes06:15
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Schuenemannhmm06:15
MinatakuSchuenemann: Sorry again that I couldn't help06:15
Minatakulol06:15
Schuenemannwell, ended up with an error06:15
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Dr_willisthen exploded...06:15
Dr_willis:)06:15
Dr_willisbrb06:15
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SchuenemannFile not found: 'lavcopts=vcodec=mjpeg'm:   0min   7mb  A-V:-0.004 [57:127] 06:15
SchuenemannFailed to open lavcopts=vcodec=mjpeg.06:15
RadiantFireaww :-(06:15
Schuenemannlol06:16
RadiantFirehrm06:16
Schuenemannwrong syntax?06:16
RadiantFiremaybe06:16
RadiantFiremaybe it was successful06:16
RadiantFirethat sounds like it was trying to transcode that f ile06:16
RadiantFiresee if it output anything?06:16
danbcan anyone help me get ntfs read working on the latest release?06:16
Schuenemannthe output is horrible06:17
Schuenemannnot the audio, the video06:17
RadiantFireharm06:17
RadiantFirehrn06:17
RadiantFirewell, at least it worked06:17
Schuenemannhaha06:17
RadiantFirenow to figure out how to specify different encoding options06:17
RadiantFireI know there is a way of doing quality settings06:17
stdinRadiantFire: it should be "-lavcopts vcodec=mjpeg"06:17
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RadiantFiresigh... I'm just not on the ball tonight06:18
RadiantFireapologies :-(06:18
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MinatakuIt looks like someone smeared the screen in pixelated vaseline and you're watching it through a burlap sack, but at least it worked XD06:18
MinatakuRadiantFire: Hey, don't feel too bad06:18
MinatakuI failed too XD06:18
Schuenemannmencoder movie.wmv -o movie.mpeg -oac mp3lame -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mjpeg06:18
danbI installed the NTFS Configuration Tool from Adept, but when I launch it I get an hourglass for a split-second and then nothing06:18
mikeGreets, everyone...06:19
Schuenemannthis stdin ?06:19
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stdinSchuenemann: yeah, something like that06:19
Schuenemannlike that? hehe06:19
RadiantFireroflmao, I just read the man page.... it sayd "Read the source for details"06:19
mikeStupid question - Can someone tell me how to recover my Freenode password? I've looked all over their website with no luck.06:19
Schuenemannugh06:19
Schuenemannand the source is assembly? :-D06:20
RadiantFirenot all of it06:20
RadiantFiresome of it is C06:20
Dr_willisdanb,  run it from the shell.06:20
RadiantFireI would, but I wouldn't have an answer for you this week06:20
lukehello fellow linux users06:20
stdinSchuenemann: it's the 3rd "-lavcopts" down06:20
Schuenemannstdin, excuse me?06:20
mikeHey luke06:20
stdinSchuenemann: in the man page06:20
danbim pretty much a linux noob, could you tell me syntax please?06:21
Dr_willismike,  i thinkyou can get  a email from the nickserv some how. Try /msg nickserv help yet?06:21
RadiantFirestdin: you could try using a different video codec like mpeg406:21
stdinSchuenemann: you know how to search a manpage, yes?06:21
RadiantFiresorry06:21
Dr_willisdanb,  open a shell.. type the name of the command..06:21
RadiantFireSchuenemann: you could try the using different vcodecs06:21
lukei'm new to this world..... do you all talk here about linux?06:21
Schuenemannup/down pgup/down keys?06:21
mikeDr_willis: Yeah, already tried that. It didn't list anything on the subject. Thanks anyway though.06:21
Dr_willisdanb,  its possible it needs tobe ran as root  with 'sudo whateveritscalled'06:21
Dr_willismike,  :()06:21
Schuenemannacidrip - ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder06:21
Schuenemannmaybe this is a front-end?06:21
stdinSchuenemann: you can "grep" type a slash and the pattern, eg: /-lavcopts06:22
navetsacidrip is awesome06:22
stdinSchuenemann: then press 'n' go through the matches06:22
stdinSchuenemann: same as in less06:22
mikeActually, it has "RECOVER - kill another user who has taken your nick"... I don't think that's what I'm looking for though06:22
navetsI used it to rip the protector and grandma's boy, they both have great quality06:22
lukedoes anyone here use bittorrent?06:22
Dr_willislots of us do luke  :)06:23
stdinmike: I think you'd have to contact the staff06:23
Schuenemannstdin, what's the parameter after grep? the file name06:23
danbDr_willis: thank you, that got it06:23
Minataku/msg nickserv sendpass06:23
MinatakuOr something to that effect06:23
stdinSchuenemann: no, you type "man appname" then in that you type "/pattern"06:23
Schuenemannahh06:24
lukehas anyone had trouble getting them to load up? i cant access either ktorrent or azurus, they'll try and crash before the main screen comes on. they both used to work fine06:24
danbhow can I get the kde menu to launch it with the visual sudo prompt?06:24
Schuenemanncool06:24
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stdinit's useful, yes :p06:24
mikedanb: Put kdesu <commandname>06:24
Schuenemannstdin, well, I got a bigger mpeg, but the same horrible video06:24
lukedanb i edit the item in the k menu to run as root06:25
stdinSchuenemann: does the file play in mplayer ?06:25
Schuenemannyes, very slowly06:25
Schuenemannlike: it stops, then advance lots of frames, then stops and so over06:25
RadiantFireapologies, for failing, I'm sleepy and am thus going to bed06:25
Schuenemannstrange is that the mpeg has over 80 MB whereas the original wmv had 606:25
stdinSchuenemann: probably a bad/corrupt file06:25
Schuenemannstdin, the original file seems ok06:26
Schuenemannplays ok06:26
stdinSchuenemann: that's what I meant, the original file06:26
Schuenemannit plays ok06:26
lukehow do you find an error with a program that fails to launch?06:27
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Schuenemannluke, run it in konsole06:28
luketyvm06:28
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danbwhat is the kde equivilent to the xp disk manager mmc?06:28
Schuenemannstdin, I'll try with another file06:28
danbor how do i view the new volume the ntfs-config just added06:29
robotgeekdanb: system settings -> disks and filesystems06:29
Dr_willisdanb,  look in 'media:/' or /media with konqueror file manager06:29
danbthank you both, checking now06:29
lukeok, now how to i stop a program thats already running errantly in the konsole?06:29
danbexcellent, that was so painless06:30
Schuenemannstdin, the result is horrible again... *sigh*06:30
Dr_willisMinataku,  check out   http://www.blabberize.com/06:30
danbthanks again06:30
Dr_willis:)06:30
danbkubuntu amd64 makes xp/vista64 look pathetic06:30
lukektorrent locks up inside itself when i run it, and i cannot stop it or access it's ui06:31
danbnow back to the wiki to get my video drivers working ;] 06:31
lukeeventually the krash handler posts a window, but thats usually after several minutes06:33
lukeany ideas?06:33
Dr_willisluke,  odd . ktorrent is rock solid for me.06:33
hitmanWillyluke, xkill06:33
Dr_willisuse the 'xkill' command to kill it off perhaps.06:33
lukeme too, up until a week ago06:33
lukewoops, i acidentally killed the konsole.... do i type xkill ktorrent?06:34
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Dr_willisxkill, then click on the program to kill06:36
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lukeok i see, i cannot use xkill because when i launch ktorrent, i do not get a tray icon for it. it locks up sometime before the ui is running06:36
Dr_willisnotice the Leet-haxor-skull-and-crossbones icon/cursor :)06:36
Dr_willisluke,  try logging in as a new user, and see if it works for them06:37
lukeok thanks....brb06:37
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Dr_willisHmm.. I got a 'live bookmark' in firefox.. for a site.. with some OLD OLD OLD junk on it..  is it the sites fault the old stuff isent vanishing?06:38
Dr_willisor is theres some firefox/cache/setting to clean out the cruft?06:38
Schuenemannok, I give up converting this crappy WMV06:38
Schuenemannscrew you, microsoft06:38
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Dr_willis:)06:40
Dr_willisthis isent some PORN wmv is it?06:41
Schuenemannheheh nope06:41
purpleposeidonis there a wmv2good_format anywhere?06:41
Dr_willisseen a GREAT many porn/wmvs on torrents that have a 'encrypted' wmv codec - where you have to go to some Russian site and install their spoecial codec.. that then infests you with spyware.06:42
Dr_williswmv is a container.. it could be any of several dozen codecs in it.06:42
SchuenemannDr_willis, under linux?06:42
Dr_willisSchuenemann,  the videos wmv's would not play under any linux player. :)06:42
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Dr_willissince the codec was basicially  a cheap encryption.06:42
Schuenemannthey do06:42
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Schuenemannyou're talking about these specific ones, right?06:43
Dr_willisi forget the name of the scam/codec.06:43
Schuenemannnot all wmv's06:43
Dr_willisya can have a wmv using  some different codecs.. some may have linux support. others may not06:43
Schuenemannright06:43
stdinSchuenemann: the command "mencoder -ovc lavc -oac mp3lame -lavcopts vcodec=mjpeg -o outputfile.avi inputfile.wmv" doesn't work?06:43
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fooquhi06:43
Schuenemannstdin, is it that last we've tried?06:44
stdinI think06:44
fooquwhere can I download LiveBlue-Ray?06:44
Schuenemannit converted, but the video is very bad06:44
stdinSchuenemann: but you can let it run for a few secs and  then stop it to check06:44
Schuenemannok06:44
stdinSchuenemann: because it works on 1 wmv I got06:44
Schuenemanncan I just kill the process?06:45
stdinyeah, Ctrl-C06:45
Schuenemannnah... it's awful06:46
Schuenemannskipping frames06:46
Schuenemannjust a min06:46
stdinfooqu: no clue, it's not in the repositories, try googleing for "LiveBlue-Ray linux" or "LiveBlue-Ray ubuntu"06:46
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MinatakuIt could also have DRMv1 or DRMv2, but that wouldn't cause transcoding failure06:47
MinatakuIt just plain wouldn't play06:47
fooqustdin: oh that sucks06:47
Schuenemannstdin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26971/06:47
stdinyeah, drm just wouldn't play06:47
Schuenemannis this normal? it doesn't seem normal06:47
Bob_hey i'm back. i was just talking to someone about ktorrent as 'luke'06:47
MinatakuWell, it WILL play06:47
MinatakuBut you get nothing more than a confusing epilepsy inducer06:48
stdinSchuenemann: I got similar output06:48
Minatakulol06:48
SchuenemannI only copied a small part of it, stdin06:48
Schuenemannstdin, did it play smooth?06:48
stdinyeah06:48
Schuenemannaudio yes, video no, in my case06:48
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Bob_someone suggested i run ktorrent as a different user and it worked. does anyone know how to reset my main id to work with all my programs? maybe a default?06:49
Schuenemannstdin, it's odd how the avi/mpeg get so bigger than the original wmv06:49
Dr_willisthe .kde dir has all your settings06:50
stdinSchuenemann: last shot would be to try in VLC, it used different codecs06:50
Dr_willislook in thee for the ktorrent files/dirs (should be  2 dirs i think)06:50
zero1328um, simple question: is there a way for me to gain write permissions outside of the terminal?06:50
Schuenemannstdin, the dump with mplayer was ok06:50
Bob_ok thanks06:50
Dr_williszero1328,  you may want to rephrase/clarify the problem. gain permissions where?06:50
zero1328like in /etc or something06:51
stdinBob_: probably removing ~/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/ and ~/.kde/share/config/ktorrentrc06:51
Schuenemannchmod?06:51
se7enis there a terminal solution for cp only new files from one directory to another (backup)06:51
NickPrestadefine "new"06:51
Dr_williszero1328,  to access/change things in a system dir like that. You should be using 'sudo' type commands06:51
Dr_willissudo vi /etc/filetoedit06:51
Dr_willisand so forth. (or the gui equilivent to sudo)06:52
dthacker-ltse7en: write a quick script?06:52
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stdinSchuenemann: the dump just seems to be a copy of the file, so that's why06:52
zero1328ok, so what you're trying to say is that I have to use Konsole or something?06:52
Schuenemannoh yeah, they have the same size duh06:52
tripppyim getting errors while emptying garbage bin, yes ive tryed "sudo rm -rf /home/<your username>/.Trash/*"06:52
robotgeekse7en: cp --update06:52
stdintripppy: what errors?06:53
se7enthanks robotgeek06:53
robotgeekse7en: you might also look at rsync, if you are going to do it over the network or so06:53
Dr_willistripppy,  be very CAREFULL with that command. :) one typo = BAM! reinstall time06:53
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dthacker-ltrsync is cool06:54
zero1328what did you mean by a "gui equivalent to sudo"?06:54
stdinzero1328: kdesu06:54
stdin!kdesu06:54
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo06:54
tripppyerror while deleting. i dont have permissions to modify its parent folder.06:54
se7enrobotgeek: rsync sounds cool i will try that thanks06:54
zero1328ok, I was wondering what kdesu was when I was using it.. now I know06:54
zero1328thanks06:54
Dr_willisi peerfer to use 'sux' but im old-skool06:55
Schuenemannstdin, what was the vlc command syntax?06:55
Dr_willis!info sux06:55
ubotusux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (feisty), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB06:55
MinatakuHeehee. Strong Mad's homemade fireworks are batteries, gasoline and WD-4006:55
stdintripppy: sudo chmod -R $(whoami): ~/.local/share/Trash/"06:56
stdinSchuenemann: it's a GUI app06:56
stdinSchuenemann: use the wizard in the file menu06:56
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stdintripppy: opps, that's  sudo chown -R $(whoami): ~/.local/share/Trash/06:56
stdinSchuenemann: not chmod06:56
Schuenemannhuh?06:56
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tripppychown: cannot access `/home/dam/.local/share/Trash/': No such file or directory06:57
stdinSchuenemann: that wasn't for you :p06:57
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danbcan anyone tell me an easy way to get mp3 support in amarok on fiesty?06:58
danbeverything i found on google was outdated or for gnome06:58
Schuenemannit's transcoding06:58
stdintripppy: then you seem to have deleted it06:58
stdindanb: did you look on the wiki?06:58
Schuenemanndanb, get libxine-extracodecs06:58
Schuenemannstdin, now the video is very fast and without sound hahaha06:59
stdinheh06:59
robotgeekw32codecs, no?07:00
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Schuenemannmaybe I should try different settingas07:00
Schuenemannor give up07:00
stdinand people ask why wmv's are bad....07:00
Schuenemannbecause they carry that W07:01
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dthacker-ltamong other things...07:01
ikesirehow do i persuade diff to show me the exact chars that differ?07:01
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tripppyalrighty. when i get the error i can skip, cancel or retry. i press skip to 8 file/folder errors. about not havving permission to modify parent folder, also errors about folders not being empty. also. the files listed in the errors don't appear in the trash.07:01
dthacker-ltikesire: diff -y will give you side to side07:02
Schuenemannstdin, what should I set as the mpeg bit rate?07:02
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stdinikesire: or use cmp07:02
ikesiredthacker: believe me, my diffs are so tricky that i really don't know which character(s) is the problem07:02
stdinSchuenemann: anything you want07:03
ikesiredthacker: so not even a side-by-side would do the job07:03
ikesirestdin: thank you07:03
Schuenemannstdin, how does that affect the final result?07:03
Schuenemannquality?07:03
stdinSchuenemann: file size/quality07:03
Schuenemannand what codec?07:04
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Schuenemannmpeg 1, 2, mjpeg...07:04
dthacker-ltikesire: at that point I usually write some perl.   I need to try vmdiff.07:04
ikesiredthacker: thank you07:05
stdinSchuenemann: try mpeg-1 or 207:05
stdinSchuenemann: mjpeg may work better tho07:05
Schuenemannomfg07:05
Schuenemannnow I got sound but no video07:06
Schuenemannthis might be some prank or something07:06
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Schuenemanna green fast video and no sound07:08
SchuenemannI give up07:08
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Schuenemannstdin, thanks though07:08
stdinyou're welcome07:09
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robotgeekSchuenemann: have you installed w32codecs?07:09
sweettoothhi all, can anyone tell me how can i check the log of my system before a crash?07:10
sweettoothmy system crashed completely when i installed and tried to run xine07:10
Schuenemannrobotgeek, yes07:10
sweettoothso i wanted to know what happened07:10
robotgeeksweettooth: most system logs are in /var/logs07:10
robotgeekSchuenemann: some drm stuff does not play, so that might be it.07:10
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Schuenemanndrm?07:10
robotgeeki could try if you posted it somewhere07:10
robotgeek!drm07:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:11
sweettoothrobotgeek, thx07:11
stdinrobotgeek: the file plays in mplayer, but won't transcode07:11
Schuenemannif the bot doesn't know about it, then it doesn't exist07:11
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robotgeekhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management stdin07:11
stdinrobotgeek: I know what it is :p07:12
Schuenemannbut the file p?ays07:12
robotgeekstdin: sorry, tab completion mistake07:12
Schuenemannrobotgeek, you said "I could try"07:12
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sweettoothi have just restarted xine from command line, its giving me some errors07:12
Schuenemannwhat do you mean?07:12
sweettoothX Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)07:13
robotgeekSchuenemann: if you point me to the video07:13
sweettoothdoes anyone know wht it means07:13
SchuenemannI'll find it07:13
Schuenemannrobotgeek, http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/213/07:14
Schuenemannbelow the video there is 'download it'07:14
stdinheh, I remember watching that a while ago :p07:14
SchuenemannI'll brb07:14
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Schuenemannback07:16
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Schuenemannrobotgeek, any progress?07:17
SchuenemannI don't mean to hurry you up, but I have to sleep :)07:17
stdinSchuenemann: hmm, the mencoder command worked here07:17
Schuenemannand the output is fine?07:17
stdinyeah07:17
stdin82MB file tho07:18
Schuenemannhow big is the file?07:18
Schuenemannhmm07:18
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robotgeekSchuenemann: downloading, right now07:20
SchuenemannI'll try tomorrow with windows movie studio or something like that07:20
Schuenemannrobotgeek, he already tested, you don't have to do that07:20
Schuenemann:)07:20
robotgeekSchuenemann: works for me07:20
stdinSchuenemann: I'll see if another video codec makes a smaller file07:20
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stdinSchuenemann: 23MB but audio/video is slightly out of sync07:25
Schuenemannhmm07:25
Schuenemannwhy is it so big compared to the wmv?07:26
SchuenemannI can't believe microsoft has a nice compressed format07:26
stdinbecause it was using wmv9 which compresses more07:26
stdin(and looses more quality)07:26
Schuenemannbut the mpeg can't have more quality than that, can it?07:27
Schuenemannfrom that file, of course07:27
stdinno, it'll actually have less07:27
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Schuenemannok, thanks07:28
Schuenemannsee you in another life, brother07:28
stdinheh07:28
stdincya07:28
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sweettoothhi there, i have installed xine in kubuntu and somehow i keep getting the error msg07:37
sweettoothhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26974/07:37
sweettoothcan anyone tell me what's wrong?07:37
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emonkey-fsweettooth, do you  use the fglrx Driver?07:43
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robertohello07:43
robertohola07:43
sweettoothemonkey-f, can you please tell me how to find out?07:43
emonkey-fI've just read that sometimes there problems in combination with Nvidia fglrx Driver and xine07:44
sweettoothoh ic07:45
sweettoothwell im using intel 91507:45
robertoputa  madre07:45
emonkey-fs/nvidia/ati/07:45
emonkey-fHmm Intel drivers... normally I haven't any problems with them07:46
emonkey-fWith your error message I find many cases which have to do with cedega/wine07:47
emonkey-fdo you use such things?07:47
robertocedega rules man07:47
sweettoothi know, i had a look as well07:47
robertoumm07:47
sweettoothno, not at the mo07:47
robertohi07:48
robertohello07:48
robertohey07:48
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robertohey07:48
robertohey07:48
robertohey07:48
robertoai alguien ahi?07:48
robertoroberto_9085@hotmail.com07:49
emonkey-fsweettooth, sorry no further ideas... :(07:49
sweettoothemonkey-f, that's ok, thx for trying07:50
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ebaadcan somebody help me in setting the sound on Kubuntu 7.0408:11
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monzieHi All08:13
monzieFirefox is connecting to the internet but Konqueror is not08:13
monziecan someone help please?08:14
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binkswhen i start vdr it complains about utf8 and i should switch it off how do i do this08:15
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Ryielbinks: you can turn utf-8 but i dont thin it worth the struggle. If you arent using english kubuntu, your special letters will be screwed. (and other perphaps wont see them) If you want to use vdr for satellite tv, use kaffeine instead. It's just my opinion...08:17
binksRyiel: i cant get sc or sasc to work under kaffeine08:18
RyielIm using kaffeine with kaffeine-sc plugin.08:18
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binksi have the plugin but it doesnt dycrypt08:19
Ryielyou can download the latest kaffeine sc plugin from edyk.mylivepage.ru08:19
Ryielyou have to create a .kaffeine directory in your /home/yourname08:19
binksis there a way to debug the plugin or see whats happening08:20
Ryielput the softcam key file there08:20
binksi have done that08:20
Ryieland you have to edit the softcam file cause kaffeine sc uses a different form of keys08:20
binksbut with a uppercase K s that wrong08:20
Ryiellowercase k08:20
Ryiel.kaffeine08:20
binksjust a sec08:20
Ryielbut you can track down your problem by running kaffeine from konsole08:21
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ebaadcan somebody help me in setting the sound on Kubuntu 7.0408:22
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Ryielebaad: what's the problem?08:23
ConstyI'm a long time Ubuntu user and I'll be switching to Kubuntu soon.  Just wondering what a few of you think of Kubuntu in general.  It's sort of tough finding reviews for Kubuntu out there (mostly just ubuntu in general)08:23
RyielConsty: its the same as ubuntu but with kde08:23
RyielIt depends on your taste08:23
ebaadthe kde interface is nice08:23
ConstyRyiel: How hard is it on system resources?08:24
ebaadRyiel---the sound does not work since i upgraded to 7.0408:24
RyielConsty: it takes a bit more. Of course you can turn the effects off08:24
ebaadi'm running kubuntu and it works fine so far except the sound08:24
Ryielbut i love it for UI08:24
ebaadyes i concure08:25
Ryielebaad: erm, upgraded from 6.10 to feisty?08:25
ebaadyes siri08:25
binksRyiel:08:25
binksinv:2 sr:6952000 fecH:3 mod:308:25
binks. LOCKED.08:25
binksopen failed: Device or resource busy08:25
ConstyRyiel: I also understand that it uses a lot of different applications, notably the k suite of apps.  I'm pretty anxious to see k3b/amarok since I've been stuck using GnomeBaker/Banshee respectfully.08:26
Ryielwww.rafb.net plz pastebin the output of these commands: lsmod, lspci08:26
binkshow do i tell if the sc is loaded08:26
Ryielit was for ebaad08:26
ConstyRyiel: I'm most interested though in the file browser, the browser & file browser are the same yeah?  How do you like those?08:26
ConstyRyiel: Is Konquerer a suitable replacement for Firefox?08:26
ebaadoh ok08:26
Ryielbinks: start kaffeine in konsole and paste the output of it to www.rafb.net/paste08:27
binksRyiel: do you want me to pastebin those cmds08:27
binksok m808:27
Ryieland ofc start tv and choose a channel08:27
NickPrestaConsty, if you don't use Firefox exclusive addons, Konqueror is a suitable replacement, yeah.08:27
ebaaddo u wnat me to paste the out put here08:27
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RyielConsty: if you want to replace it, yes. But im using firefox :D08:27
Ryielebaad: nope, paste it on www.rafb.net/paste08:28
binkshttp://rafb.net/p/BLvDZz78.html Ryiel08:28
ebaadoky dok08:28
Ryieland give me the link to check it08:28
Ryielbinks: checkin08:28
binks:)08:28
ConstyRyiel: How do GTK apps look when using KDE?  On a primarily QT based desktop I'm curious to know how well GTK and QT apps look side by side.  Is it noticeably different?  Close?  On Ubuntu KDE apps look like crap.08:29
Ryielbinks: lspci and lsmod outputs too plz08:29
RyielConsty: I dont see the reason why you should use gtk apps08:30
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Ryielofc if you need them you can run them08:30
ConstyRyiel: Firefox is a GTK app.08:30
ebaadRyiel----http://rafb.net/p/PpYEbd34.html08:30
RyielConsty: hmm, it looks just find :D08:30
Ryielfine08:30
Ryielebaad: lspci plz08:31
binksRyiel: http://rafb.net/p/1ArXsA26.html08:31
Ryielebaad: it looks like the modules are loaded08:32
ebaadRyiel ---08:32
ebaadebaad@linserver:~$ lspci08:32
ebaad00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  651 Host (rev 02)08:32
ebaad00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)08:32
ebaad00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  SiS962 [MuTIOL Media IO]  (rev 25)08:32
ebaad00:02.1 SMBus: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  SiS961/2 SMBus Controller08:32
ebaad00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  5513 [IDE] 08:32
ebaad00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)08:32
binksebaad: dont paste here08:32
ebaad00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  USB 1.0 Controller (rev 0f)08:32
Ryieldont paste here...08:32
ebaad00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  USB 1.0 Controller (rev 0f)08:32
ebaad00:03.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  USB 2.0 Controller08:33
ebaad00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 91)08:33
ebaad00:08.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 80)08:33
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ebaad00:09.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 50)08:33
ebaad00:09.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 50)08:33
ebaad00:09.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 51)08:33
ebaad00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c940 10/100/1000Base-T [Marvell]  (rev 12)08:33
ebaad00:0e.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 10)08:33
ebaad00:0f.0 Network controller: RaLink Wireless PCI Adapter RT2400 / RT246008:33
ebaad01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter08:33
ebaadebaad@linserver:~$08:33
ebaadRyiel --- http://rafb.net/p/Jlok1i25.html08:33
ebaadi'm sorry the buffer did not get cleared08:33
ebaadoooopsss08:33
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Jcshow's it going?08:34
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NickPresta!pastebin | ebaad08:34
ubotuebaad: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:34
Jcshow can i get flash to work correctly? i thought i had it installed but nothing is working on firefox08:35
rohoi have a dell that has these media function keys.  one of them, page down, is messed up.  when i want to page down, it turns down the volume.  could someone point me to where i might learn how to fix that?08:35
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ebaad i'm sorry the buffer did not get cleared08:35
johnnygI want to install an IM client named Spark. They only have a tar.gz version so I can't use synaptic. Where is the proper place to untar it to? /home/johnny seems wrong...08:35
ebaadThousand apologies08:35
rohoJcs: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox08:35
Ryielebaad: sorry, i have no idea. seems like the modules are loaded...08:36
ConstyRyiel: So is firefox included with Kubuntu automatically or did you install it yourself?  I don't want to use Kubuntu if it comes with a bunch of applications that do the same job.08:36
Ryielperhaps you can try and rmmod them then modprobe back08:36
ConstyRyiel: That's just annoying imho.08:36
ebaadbut still i can hear the system cound or any of the multimedia apps08:36
rohoConsty: it's included.08:36
Ryieli think it was installed. But i cant really remember08:36
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Jcshow is GNASH?08:37
Ryielbinks: technotrend card?08:37
binksRyiel: any ideas on my kaffeine prob08:37
binksyes08:37
binkstt2300 dvb-c08:37
Ryielah, cable, not satellite08:38
Jcsroho: it says flashplugin-nonfree is already newest version08:38
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johnnygwhere is the equivialent of C:\Program Files in linux?08:40
binksRyiel: but i get fta so the card is working08:41
Ryielthere is no equivalent :) Linux isnt windows :) What are you looking for?08:41
johnnygI want to install an AIM client. I have a tar.gz. I don't want to clutter my home directory by installing it there. I'm wondering where it goes08:41
Ryieljohnnyg: you can use kopete for aim08:41
johnnygRyiel: I want to try out Spark from jive software.08:42
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Ryielalways try to install programs from the repository not from 3rd party source08:42
Karti!ipod08:42
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod08:42
johnnygin the case you do have a tar.gz and you've got to throw it somewhere, where is it best put?08:42
Karti!rockbox08:43
uboturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!08:43
Ryielit contains the source, so the best is to put it to /usr/src08:43
Ryielunpack it, run ./configure and if it can configure it, make and make install08:43
Ryielofc sudo is necessary08:43
Ryielbinks: so, fta channels are fine. Did you open a channel thats encrypted? cause i see nothing about it in the log file. This is how looks mine when i open an encrypted channel: http://rafb.net/p/r6P3ZJ52.html08:45
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johnnygRyiel: thanks08:45
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Ryieljohnnyg: but i still recommend you to use adept and look for an aim cilent08:46
Ryielclient08:47
Jcsmy nick isnt registered08:48
jussi01!aim | johnnyg08:48
ubotujohnnyg: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.08:48
Ryielthanks jussi01 :)08:49
Ryieljust what i was thinking about08:49
jussi01:)08:49
RyielYou know people who got used to windows cannot go with the repository system. It takes time to get used to it :)08:50
binksRyiel: line 44 skysports is encrypted but no mention of sc loadin as it does in yours08:50
jussi01Ryiel: yeah, so true08:50
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Ryielbinks: Hmm... Does it even work with cable cards? I've never had any dvb-c, so i dont really know. How did you install the kaffeine-sc? .deb file? Which version?08:51
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kprofthreatHmm08:52
binksi installed deb 0.3.3 and yes it should work on dvb-c as should vdr and mythtv08:53
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Ryielcan you see the plugin in kaffeine?08:53
Ryieldvb/dvb settings08:54
binksyes i can08:54
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binksin dvb plugins08:54
Ryielthen it should work. the keyfile has to be in /home/yourname/.kaffeine and the name is SoftCam.Key08:55
binksbut if i enter the plugin there are no entries under Newcs client settings08:55
Ryielcause you dont use newcs08:56
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binksarr ok so there is nothing to setup in sc plugin08:57
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Ryielnothing at all08:58
Ryielbut you need a proper softcam.key08:58
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binkshmm ill have to try o work out how to make it then08:59
binksRyiel: :) ill try it09:00
Ryieli sent you my keyfile, just try to follow the scheme09:00
Ryieli hope it helps09:00
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randomanhey guys09:05
randomanwhats the best way to add commands to bootup of kde09:05
randomanis it to add a script to /etc/init.d09:05
binksRyiel: thanks for the help need to restart09:05
stdinrandoman: if it's just a couple commands then put them in /etc/rc.local09:06
randomank09:07
randomanbut if its a full on script put it in init.d09:07
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stdinrandoman: then you'd have to make links in /etc/rcX.d/ and make sure it's not ran at shutdown too. you can just put the path to the script in /etc/rc.local too09:09
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marcelohay alguien que sepa espanol?09:11
jussi01!es09:11
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:11
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poweruser1Major linux n00b here. How would I rename my main acct?09:14
akrusdeluser;adduser :D09:14
poweruser1Uh, w/out deleting my acct?09:15
akrussudo nano /etc/passwd09:15
akruschange your account name09:15
akrussave it09:15
akrusre-login o_O09:15
akrusno idea if it's right09:15
akrusit will likely work, but no idea how :D09:15
joncsnhow come firefox tries to play imbedded realplayer files but doesnt actually play?09:15
poweruser1Well, least you made an effort to answer09:15
poweruser1Ty09:15
akrus:)09:16
akrusjoncsn: doesn't work for me as well :o realplayer never worked well T_T09:16
joncsndrats09:17
stdinpoweruser1: System Settings -> User Management (I would guess)09:17
joncsnhow will i watch democracynow09:17
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ConstyCan you install KDE4 in Kubuntu 7.04?09:17
joncsnis there a difference between firefox and mozilla-firefox09:18
akruspoweruser1: here it's called 'About me' :)09:18
stdinConsty: read the announcements on kubuntu.org09:18
crimsunjoncsn: the latter is the obsoleted binary package name.09:18
akrusthe name, but not the login o_o09:19
stdinjoncsn: mozilla-firefox is the old name09:19
joncsnhow come flash works on the adobe site for me but not on other web pages?09:19
stdinjoncsn: installed flash9 ?09:19
joncsnyep09:19
akruspoweruser1: oh year stdin is right :)09:19
Constystdin: That is so cool, have you installed it?09:19
akrusyear=yeah09:19
stdinthen it should (if it's flash)09:19
akrusAdobe is using Ajax when Flash it's not available, are you sure it's really flash?09:20
stdinConsty: yeah, but that's because I'm fishing out some of the many, many bugs09:20
Constystdin: So it's pretty unstable?09:20
stdinConsty: extremely09:21
stdinConsty: it's only really useful for development09:21
stdinConsty: no where near ready yet09:21
joncsn'This product requires Mozilla Firefox 1.5 with Macromedia Flash 8'09:21
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stdinjoncsn: what does "apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree" show?09:23
Constystdin: Ah rats. :)09:23
joncsninstalled 9.0 etc09:24
stdinConsty: they expect a stable version (release) by october09:24
stdinjoncsn: after you installed it, did you restart firefox?09:24
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Constystdin: what kind of great new features have you seen in kde4?09:24
joncsnyes09:24
stdinConsty: well, it's a compleat rewrite :p speed is better than ever plasma is looking nice and dolphin is getting there09:25
stdinConsty: and the composit extention to kwin is nice too :)09:26
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stdinjoncsn: and going to the address about:plugins shows flash in there?09:26
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joncsnon adobes site?09:27
stdinjoncsn: no, go to the address "about:plugins"09:27
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joncsnoh sorry09:28
joncsnyes says it is enabled09:28
joncsnapplication/x-shockwave-flash09:28
stdinthen it should work09:29
joncsno well09:30
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joncsnis there a way to use realplayer instead of mplayer trying to embed stuff?09:30
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Constystdin: I'm actually a long time gnome user planning to migrate over to KDE. :P09:34
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liehello09:34
Constystdin: Primarily because of amarok and k3b.  Plus it just looks a bit more recent in terms of technology.09:34
lieanybody want to talk to me09:34
stdinConsty: well, it is :P and it's getting better all the time, there have been 3 releases in 18 months09:35
Constystdin: It just always seems like kubuntu is not nearly as supported as ubuntu (for obvious reasons), I guess I never used it because I was always worried that it would drop or something. :)09:36
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stdinConsty: use both?09:36
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liehello mili09:36
Lynourelie: if you just want to chat, #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic are more chatty, this is the support channel09:36
milihi09:36
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Constystdin: What do you mean?  install kubuntu-desktop ontop of my ubuntu desktop?  No way..09:36
lieok thanks lynoure09:37
jussi01lie: also #ubuntuforums is good for that09:37
liehow to get there09:37
Lynourelie: /join #ubuntu-offtopic09:38
liehello09:39
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AutoMatriXHi, folks09:40
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jussi01hello AutoMatriX09:41
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Cuitohmm09:44
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Cuitocan someone help me?When i start the computer LILO starts kubuntu.I cant choose which OS i want to start.And i want to remove LILO to GRUB(Or just learn how to config LILO)09:45
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AutoMatriXCuito: man lilo :p09:46
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jussi01!grub09:47
Cuito(No manual entry for lilo):P09:47
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:47
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micmanhello everybody09:52
micmanhello shiva r  u there?09:52
micmansuperkiddo r u there too?09:53
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jussi01micman: whats your issue?09:53
jussi01can we help?09:53
micmanthx jussi01  . i dont need help for know.09:54
jussi01micman: ok :D09:54
micmanjussi01,  i m signing out . c u later.09:55
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marco__how can i configure konversation that it doesn't open automatically when i start kubuntu?09:57
Cuitowhen they say boot liveCD they do mean cd /***/***/?09:57
nstermarco__ do you leave it open when you restart or shut down kubuntu?09:58
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marco__mmm....i don't know....09:59
marco__i should restart09:59
marco__?09:59
nsterwhat ive learned is that when you leave a program running like the console next time you restart it will reopen09:59
marco__should i?(sorrY)09:59
nsterso close it first then restart09:59
nstersee if it reopens09:59
stdinCuito: they mean the CD you installed from09:59
marco__ahhh09:59
marco__no no09:59
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marco__I always close the program, and when i restart it open.....10:00
nsterhmm10:00
marco__automaticallu10:00
marco__y10:00
lupulhi. is there a command line mp3 player?10:01
lupulwith sound10:01
nsterlupul10:01
nstersudo apt-get install cplay10:01
nsteralso10:01
nstersudo apt-get install mpg123 for mp3 support10:01
stdinlupul: mplayer10:01
lupulif i have libxine isn't it good?10:01
AutoMatriXmarco__: you did not leave the live-cd in your driver, did you ?10:01
nstercplay uses mpg12310:01
marco__auto i didn't10:02
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nsterits actually mpg123-alsa if you use alsa10:02
lupulok. got it. thank you10:02
lupuland stdin10:02
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marco__ok, thank you, you tried to help me..... byebye10:03
Kprofthreat/10:03
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kharlosshi there. after 2 month  i have a problem with my ubuntu server. connection is verry slow , even between my computer and my server . both are in the same room, conected at the same switch . any solution  ?10:08
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fulgidusSalve!10:20
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crazy_busI've got a folder full of .tif files that I want to convert to small png files.  Is there a program or script to easily do this?10:26
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crocodilehow does konversation decide what color to assign to a nicknamee?10:30
crocodilethere are 7 color settings, just it just pick a random one for each nick?10:31
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epimethcrocodile: I think so10:34
crocodileok, trying to work out some kind of a less rainbow theme here10:35
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Neil-www.phoenixphotography.org crashes firefox for me, with nothing in terminal, but konq is fine.. any ideas whats up?10:48
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crocodileat the 2:20 mark of this video (a beryl demo) you see the guy playing with his program launcher.  What launcher program is it?  http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM11:19
ardchoillecrocodile: What does it look like?11:19
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crocodilea launcher program but when hes clicking and dragging the icons in it they bounce back into place11:20
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jussi01crocodile: looks a bit like AWN11:21
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jussi01hang on, might be kiba dock...11:22
jussi01yeah, kiba dock i think11:22
crocodileok thanks11:23
crocodilehow does AWN compare to it?11:23
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jussi01crocodile: awn is not really a launcher, its a window manager,...11:24
jussi01AWM11:24
jussi01sorry11:24
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crdlbAWN is both a lanucher bar and a taskbar11:26
crdlb"avant window navigator"11:26
crdlblauncher*11:26
jussi01yeah... something like that... i dont use it11:26
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crdlbit also uses gconf11:27
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grul!mp311:27
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:27
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crocodilecrdlb - sounds like it might conflict with kde, or do you not even use kde?11:28
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crdlbit shouldn't conflict, but it'll pull in a lot of gnome and might look a bit out of place11:28
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ksivajiJucato hi11:30
W1ZrDHow (if possible) can I hide/unhide folders in my home directory?11:30
se7enls -a to see them all11:31
Jucatohi11:31
W1ZrDse7en: I know that, but how can I toggle and make then visible/hidden?11:31
JucatoW1ZrD: View -> Show hidden files in Konqueror?11:31
W1ZrDJucato: yes11:32
W1ZrDJucato: But still, it does not show the,11:32
W1ZrD*them11:32
Jucatowhat do you mean? It will show hidden files and folders11:33
W1ZrDJucato: sorry, what I mean is, that the folders are hidden (I can see them in Konq) but question is: how can I make certain folders hidden/unhidden?11:34
jussi01remove the . before them?11:34
JucatoW1ZrD: rename the folder/file removing the . at the beginning. BUT! do not do that for folder/files that are hidden to begin with11:34
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W1ZrDJucato: Reason is, that there are some hidden folders which I need access to from other programs (thoose programs cannot find hidden files)11:35
Jucatoeverything directly under your /home/username that are originally hidden need to stay that way11:35
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JucatoW1ZrD: what programs?11:35
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W1ZrDJucato: It's one for instance, called PakScape running under Wine, that can't see hidden folders/files11:35
W1ZrDBut I'll try to simply remove the . and see if that works11:36
JucatoI don't know PakScape, but like I said, do not unhide hidden files or folders. they are like that for a reason. and programs are configured to look for them as hidden files/folders11:36
Jucatook.. if you really want to mess your system that bad....11:36
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W1ZrDJucato: I know what you mean, on the other hand, I see no reason for this specific folder to be hidden11:37
W1ZrDI'll give it a go :)11:37
jussi01W1ZrD: make sure you back up first11:37
JucatoW1ZrD: just because you see no reason doesn't mean it's not meant to be hidden11:37
Jucatobut your call11:37
W1ZrDJucato: True, but isn't it just enough to re-name it back if it doesn't work?11:38
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W1ZrDJucato: Seems to do the trick with that specific folder, wouldn't want to try it on system folders though. Thank's for the help, I'm off :)11:40
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ksivaji"apt-get install wine" where this command will store files of wine11:41
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frojnddoes Bluez support 2.0. USB adapters ??11:42
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jussi01ksivaji: .wine11:45
ksivajijussi01 in which directory it will be stored11:46
jussi01ksivaji: .wine11:46
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jussi01ksivaji: thats where all the config files will be,11:47
jussi01once you run winecfg11:47
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ksivajijussi01 "sudo apt-get install vlc" this command will download source file or some .deb file ?11:51
jussi01ksivaji: it will download and install the deb11:52
ksivajijussi01 so i cant see source code right but i need source  code11:53
jussi01ksivaji: what do you need source code for?11:53
ksivajijussi01 just i wnat to see11:54
Jucatoksivaji: apt-get source vlc11:54
mudda_moinsen!11:54
Jucatono sudo11:54
ksivajijussi01 ya i got source code but it seems large 15mb11:54
mudda_ich suche so ein dock/panel....wie man es auch nennt - im mac-style. welches ist das beste?11:54
jussi01ksivaji: thats about right11:54
jussi01!de | mudda_11:54
ubotumudda_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:54
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ksivaji jussi01 tell one simple software i wnat ot see its source11:56
ksivaji*want to*11:56
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jussi01apt-get source hello11:56
jussi01:)11:56
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jussi01ksivaji: what are you trying to do?11:57
ksivajijussi01 i want to see source code11:57
jussi01ksivaji: yes, I understand, but _why_ do you want to see the source code?11:58
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ksivajijussi01i am an engineering student  i havent see source code of any software11:59
jussi01ksivaji: ok, well hello is about as basic as it gets11:59
jussi01so do that command i gave you earlier11:59
jussi01apt-get source hello12:00
ksivajijussi01 just i wnat to know how it looks12:00
ksivajiE: UnaE: Unable to find a source package for hello12:00
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jussi01ksivaji: do you have all the repos active?12:01
ksivajidunno12:01
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ksivajihow to check that12:01
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Jucatoksivaji: in Adept, or manually check /etc/apt/sources.list12:02
ardchoilleksivaji: Here is my sources.list , it has all the official repos enabled:12:02
Jucatoyou need the deb-src lines enabled12:03
Jucatoor check the option in Adept Manager12:03
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jussi01yeah, in adept-> manage repositories, then make sure source is ticked12:03
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ksivajiok wait12:04
ksivaji!pastebin12:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:04
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ksivajijussi01     ardchoille Jucato   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26982/12:06
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fritzhey, can any1 tell me how to mount a immage?12:08
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fritzhey, can any1 tell me how to mount a immage?...vdi....12:10
ksivajifritz wait12:10
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jussi01!mount12:11
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter12:11
ardchoillesudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/file.iso /path/mountpoint   ?12:11
hnsnhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDI12:11
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Jucato!ISO12:12
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.12:12
fritzit's not iso. it\s a hdd image from virtual box... it's .vdi12:13
hnsnvmware player?12:14
fritzit's called myxp.vdi12:14
fritzcan any1 give me the command lines 4 the console12:14
fritz?12:14
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fritzi'm running windows in virtual box...perhaps how to load the other partitons in the win sistem while i'm running it?12:15
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ksivajijussi01 are u thre12:24
ksivajijussi01 are u there12:25
jussi01ksivaji: yes..12:25
jussi01ksivaji: whats up?12:26
ksivajionemore problem when i save text file a backup is created for that with same name i dont want that12:26
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jussi01ksivaji: its normal, it will go away after a while...12:27
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ksivajijussi01 ya i got updates12:32
jussi01:)12:33
ksivaji apt-get source hello where hello will be saved12:33
fritzboy...this help channel is not what it used 2 be12:34
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fritzmore likely like the channel of unanswered questions  ^.^12:34
ksivajijussi01 E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.iitm.ac.in_ubuntu_dists_feisty_restricted_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)12:35
ksivajijussi01 are u there12:36
ksivajijussi0112:37
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ksivajiwhether wget provides resume supports ?12:41
ManiDhillon!wine amd6412:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wine amd64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:42
ManiDhillon!wine12:42
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.12:42
ManiDhillonAfter installing WINE hich command should i issue? Is this "winecfg" ?12:44
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ManiDhillonAfter installing WINE hich command should i issue? Is this "winecfg" ?12:45
ksivajiManiDhillon http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_Install_Wine12:46
ksivajihttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_run_programs_in_Wine12:47
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ManiDhillonksivaji But i've done all this. Now when i click on any EXE file i got logged out!12:48
ksivajiManiDhillon try "wine /exepath/file.exe" in terminal12:49
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ManiDhillonksivaji I've even tried that before but i logged out each time! May it is due to 64 bit Kubuntu!12:51
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ksivajiManiDhillon sorry i dont know for me it works fine12:51
ksivajiManiDhillon have you tried #ubuntu12:52
ManiDhillonksivaji Are you using Kubuntu?12:52
ksivajiues12:52
ksivajiyes12:52
ksivaji64bit pc but i386 kubuntu12:53
ManiDhillonksivaji Can you send me your  sources.list file?12:53
ksivajiya12:53
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ManiDhillonOkay then send me your sources.list file at   mdwaps@gmail.com12:54
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ksivajiManiDhillon http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26984/12:55
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ManiDhillonksivaji What is this bro?12:56
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ksivaji ManiDhillon where is it bro i dont know12:58
ksivajiManiDhillon i cant receive that file why12:58
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ManiDhillonksivaji Its an example that you send me your source file directoly.12:59
ksivajiManiDhillon take from that link and paste01:00
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ManiDhillonksivaji Okay thanks anyway!01:01
gemidjyis there front end for editing fstab, a friend of mine asks he needs to set mount-point for another hdd but preferably via GUI app.01:02
t1g3rhey guys just installed kubuntu on me lappy01:03
ksivajifine01:03
t1g3rtryna connect it to my pc so it can share the internet connection on the pc...to download and install packages01:03
t1g3rpc has windows on it, any idea where i can start?01:03
t1g3rlinked them both up with a crossover cable01:03
ksivajit1g3r use switch and connect via cross cable01:04
gemidjyt1g3r: you want one of the computers to be Router?01:05
t1g3ryea actually thatd be nice, the pc01:05
t1g3rwell i dont have a switch or a hub u see01:05
gemidjythen set the IP of the other computers and as router IP set the IP of the PC01:05
t1g3rthat an idea01:06
ManiDhillonI'm gonna reinstall WINE! May be this time it will work.01:06
t1g3rthe pc is connected to the net via a usb modem01:06
t1g3rcan someone give me the link to the wiki page for kubuntu pls?01:08
ksivajit1g3r do u have cross cable with you01:09
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ManiDhillon!limewire01:12
ManiDhillon!limewire01:12
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.01:12
ManiDhillon!LimeWire01:12
t1g3ryes ksivaji i have a xover cable connected between them atm01:12
ksivaji!botabuse | ManiDhillon01:12
ubotuManiDhillon: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...01:13
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ksivajit1g3r both the system are switch on or not ?01:13
t1g3rno they are connected ad hoc01:14
ksivajit1g3r try #ubuntu01:15
t1g3rfair enough01:15
t1g3rcheers01:15
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Entheogenguys can I "make" OS X-like KControl in distro other than kubuntu?01:20
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fdovingEntheogen: yes, just use system settings. it's in KDEs svn.01:22
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Entheogenit means i have to compile kde from scratch?01:24
fdovingEntheogen: no, you might need to compile a simple app from scratch.01:24
Entheogenthanks01:25
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AokiShinyaHi. I'm wondering... How can I check if there's a missing driver I need to install using kubuntu?01:26
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Pupeno!mp301:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:35
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ContrastGreets, everyone...01:42
ContrastDoes anyone know how to disable the sound system from the commandline?01:42
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Pupeno!mp301:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:47
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omega__hy to all01:55
chrisloukasheloo01:55
chrisloukashello01:55
omega__can anybody tell me how can instal my nvidia video card01:56
omega__?01:56
SlimeyPeteuse adept to install nvidia-glx.01:56
SlimeyPeteassuming you want 3D support01:57
omega__yes01:57
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omega__tanks01:58
omega__slimey01:58
SlimeyPeteno problem01:58
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omega__i have another question02:02
omega__i am new in kubuntu02:03
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omega__i hope i not gone upset u slimey02:03
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omega__my amarok   player don't play my mp3 file02:04
omega__can u tel me why?02:04
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Sanne!mp3 | omega__02:05
ubotuomega__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:05
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omega__tanks again02:07
Sanneomega__: good luck :)02:08
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omega__and how can i get beryl :)02:18
SlimeyPetehttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu02:18
Jucato!beryl | omega__02:18
ubotuomega__: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects02:18
SlimeyPetejust bear in mind that kubuntu uses adept rather than synaptic02:18
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|Karti|omega__: Type sudo apt-get install beryl-manager into a a konsole and it should work02:20
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|Karti|brb02:22
tomazhey, i'm trying to follow the steps on techbase.kde.org to start trying to build from svn02:22
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tomazand there's one step that asks me to copy my .bashrc , but i have no bashrc in my home directory.02:22
tomazwhat do i need to do ?02:22
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Linux_Galoretomaz: you wont see the .bashrc  file by default02:24
Linux_Galoretomaz: there whats called a "dot file" or hidden file02:24
tomazi know galore02:24
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tomazbut on bash, i write 'locate bashrc'02:24
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Linux_Galoretomaz: if you login to the user account a bashrc file is created from a default copy02:24
tomazand it locates all bashrc from my previous kubuntu installation (6.10)02:25
tomazbut not from my 7.0402:25
tomazif i write 'vim .bashrc' , it creates an empty file02:25
Linux_Galoretomaz: duh02:25
tomaz?02:25
Linux_Galoretomaz: vim is just an editor it doesnt do anything but edit text files02:26
tomazand bashrc is a text file02:26
tomazso , if i ask it to open .bashrc , and it opens a blank document02:26
tomazit's because it doesn't exist.02:26
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nosrednaekimtomaz: I see what you are saying....I always had a bashrc file by default02:27
Linux_Galoretomaz: no if you try open .bashrc  "dont forget the dot"  it will open the correct file 1 if you in your home directory for that user 2. it exists otherwise it just opens a balnk02:27
Linux_Galoreblank file*02:27
tomaztomaz@shiva:~$ vim .bashrc02:28
tomaz= blank file02:28
Linux_Galoretomaz: vim ~/.bashrc02:28
tomazbut im on ~!02:29
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tomaztomaz@shiva:~$ vim ~/.bashrc = blank file too02:29
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Linux_Galoretomaz: if there is no bashrc a user hasnt logged into that account02:29
tomazi'm logged now!02:29
tomazit's my primary account.02:30
Linux_Galorels .bashrc*   .bashrc02:30
Linux_Galorels .bashrc*02:30
Linux_Galore.bashrc02:30
Linux_Galoreoops02:31
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tomazok.. i will paste the contents of 'locate bashrc' on pastebin02:31
Linux_Galoretomaz: bash when its run for the "first time" with any new user account install some defauls file in the home directory, they are always there02:32
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tomazi will take a screenshoot, if you don't belive me =p02:32
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Linux_Galoretomaz: you can stand on your head, Ive admined 1,000's of machines and its always there02:32
tomazhttp://pastebin.ca/58726302:33
tomazsee the pastbin02:33
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Linux_Galoretomaz: run  sudo updatedb02:34
Linux_Galoretomaz: then do locate .bashrc02:34
tomazi did that 5 minutes ago Galore =/02:34
tomazthere's a way to 'recreate' the bashrc?02:35
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Linux_Galoretomaz: looks like you have deleted it logout and back in a new one is created02:36
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omega__can u tell me about the decoders for kafeine,slimey?02:37
tomazthe one thing that i'v done, is that when i installed i swapped the partitions (/home and /data), , so after botting for the 1st time, i edited the /etc/fstab to swap them both02:37
SlimeyPeteomega__: sorry, I don't use kaffeine02:37
tomazand after that i dont have my .bashrc, the thing is, i'v turned the power down and up and logged many times , and the bashrc isn't created at all.02:38
Linux_Galoretomaz: just copy one of the other user account bashrc files over then type  chown username .bashrc02:38
Linux_Galoretomaz: they are all the same unless you manually edit them02:39
tomazah, thanks. ;)02:40
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Zeatajmd hier der mir bei meiner ersten linux erfahrung helfen kann?02:44
paolo hi. where's the file associated to the command "history"? thnks02:45
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nosrednaekimpaolo: .basj_history02:45
SlimeyPetepaolo: ~/.bash_history02:45
nosrednaekim*.bash_history02:45
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kukukukuhi02:46
PupenoDoes anybody know how to make the F1-F12 the default keys in MacBookPro, and the multimedia/function keys require pressing the fn key?02:47
kukukukucan some pl tell me how to detect motherboard my computer is running on02:47
kukukukudems ??02:47
kukukukudesmg ?02:47
Pupenokukukuku: what do you mean by detect?02:47
kukukukui need to what is model of mother board my hardware vendor has given me02:47
Pupenokukukuku: I think the easiest way would be opening the case and looking inside, I've never found a way to do it in software (although it may exists, of course).02:48
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nosrednaekimkukukuku: sometimes lshw does it.02:50
micmanJucato:  i got ncurses lib error when i install prozilla02:51
Jucatomicman: sorry I don't know anything about that02:51
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micmani got ncurses lib error when i install prozilla  is there anyone to help me02:54
Sannemicman: what error? (paste to paste.ubuntu-nl.org if multiple lines)02:55
micmanconfigure: error: **A (n)curses library was not found. The program needs ncurses to run, Ncurses is freely available at : ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu **02:55
Pupenomicman: install libncurses-dev or something like that.02:56
Sannemicman: so you're compiling? If so, you need some *-dev libs.02:56
Sanne:)02:56
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micmanPupeno ya i am downloading that02:57
Sannemicman: don't, just install the package from the ubuntu repositories02:57
grul!mp302:57
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:57
micmanSanne ok what else to be done02:58
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omega__ computers02:59
Pupenomicman: never install anything that is not packaged unless you know what you are doing or wish to learn.02:59
Sannemicman: you never should install software from the net if it's already available in the repositories, precompiled for you and fitting into your system. How do you install normally, with adept, synaptic, or apt-get on the command line?02:59
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omega__how can i share my data in the network whit my friends03:00
omega__it's my personal network03:01
omega__the others have win sp03:01
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Sannemicman: ok, so I'll tell you for the command line. (I hope it's the correct package) try first: sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev03:02
SlimeyPeteomega__: you can use windows file sharing (samba). Try searching ubuntuguide.comor the ubuntu forums.03:02
SlimeyPete!samba03:02
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:02
micmanSanne ya i done that03:03
Sannemicman: ah, good. Do you still get the error when configuring prozilla?03:03
omega__thanks to all03:03
micmanSanne thank you i installed that03:04
micmanthanks a lot03:04
Sannemicman: you might want to bookmark this page and give it a read, when you have time: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement03:04
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micmanok03:04
Sannemicman: ah, so it worked? That's nice :)03:05
micmanSanne because of you03:05
micmanok bye03:05
Sannemicman: glad to help :)03:05
Sannebye03:05
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BluesKaj!prozilla03:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about prozilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:06
nosrednaekimomega__: if you only want to shareyour data with freinds... you can use kpf03:07
grul!love03:07
ubotuLove is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.03:07
nosrednaekimwhat the.......03:07
nosrednaekimit should have ....... at the end03:08
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nosrednaekimomega__: you still here?03:09
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omega__yes nosrednaekim03:13
delounHi, I installed kde4base-dev but it wont start the toolbar shows up first and after that all turns black and it returns to the login screen, is this a known problemor does it work fine with any of you?03:13
omega__i'm still here03:13
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gnomefreakdeloun: what do you need the -dev package for?03:14
delounto try out kde4, it's mentioned on the kubuntu page03:14
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deloungnomefreak: look here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php03:15
gnomefreakah thats right it is needed to remove the older qt packages03:15
kukukukuis there any graphical partition mounter on kubuntu ?03:15
gnomefreakdeloun: im a few steps ahead of you but thank you :)03:15
nosrednaekimomega__: you can use kpf if you just want to share files on your computer with your friends03:16
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deloungnomefreak: just to show you what i was talking about03:16
nosrednaekimkukukuku: yep... system settings-> hardware-> partition editor03:16
gnomefreakdeloun: what one of the 2 last bullets did you use?03:16
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nosrednaekimomega__: its far easier than samba03:17
deloungnomefreak: The last one; I added it as a session03:17
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delounAnd put the export lines in the kde4 bin03:17
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feierfoxhello03:17
feierfoxhow to activate the ATI driver in kubuntu?03:18
feierfoxthe wiki shows only the way for ubuntu03:18
gnomefreakdeloun: that would be why. i personally after testing dont feel its ready for full X yet as alot of things are still broken.03:18
delounfeierfox: the same as in ubuntu03:18
gnomefreakfeierfox: its same03:18
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nosrednaekimomega__: http://nosrednaekim.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/easy-cross-platform-file-sharing-with-kpf/03:18
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feierfoxi cant find the issue in the menue03:19
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|Robbe|Is it possible to reinstall over a feisty 64bit with a feisty 32bit, while keeping the settings ?03:19
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nosrednaekimfeierfox: in order to mimic ubuntu's version.... you have to install "restricted-manager"03:19
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gnomefreakZechs: no03:19
feierfoxoh ha03:19
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Zechsgnomefreak : complete reinstall ?03:19
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gnomefreakZechs: backup ~/ and see if you can use them but you would either need a new partiton to install to reinstall over 64bit or vmware or chroot03:20
gnomefreakZechs: maybe you can install the 386 kernel but there is no telling if anything will work since all your libs are for 6403:21
binksRyiel did you help me with kaffeine b403:22
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JEANMASShi03:22
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JEANMASSsince i updated amarok with backport rep03:22
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Zechsgnomefreak : I've tried installing those libs, but it just won't accept running both, kinda sad cause it prevents me from using firefox with flash and playing alpha centauri03:23
JEANMASSi can't listen to lastfm radios03:23
Zechsgnomefreak : I'll just reinstall, it'll take some time to setup again, but it'll be beter that way03:23
gnomefreakZechs: use gnash it works great here, i have backport for newest gnash 0.8.003:23
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Zechsgnomefreak : I've tried it, doesn't work here03:24
JEANMASSany idea?03:24
gnomefreakZechs: than you didnt get it from my repo ;)03:24
Zechsjeanmass: do you have the right ports open ?03:24
Zechsgnomefreak : what repo is that ?03:24
gnomefreak!moztest | Zechs03:25
ubotuZechs: The Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution. Please report bugs found from these packages to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives/Bugs.03:25
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gnomefreakZechs: give me a minute and ill get you somewhere else to get it from without updating everything03:25
JEANMASSZechs: it worked before upgrading03:25
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Zechsgnomefreak : ok, thanks, that would be great :-)03:26
gnomefreakZechs: get it from http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/gnash-feisty/ its the same build but prevents you from updating alot of the testing stuff03:26
gnomefreakZechs: you want gnash and mozilla-plugin-gnash03:27
gnomefreakyou might need the libs as well03:27
JEANMASSi get this error msg03:27
JEANMASSNo suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported. Network failures are other possible causes.03:27
Zechsjeanmass : and there were no port changes of that program, and you configured it right ?03:27
JEANMASSi havent touched it since the upgrade03:28
JEANMASShowever to be able to use the backport repos03:28
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Zechsgnomefreak : I'll wget them, so that the dependancies come with it as well, or just get it trough the adapt manager :-)03:28
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enzo_Is there an issue with Beryl on Feisty?03:29
enzo_I keep getting a white screen03:29
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Miluxhello, i've a problem with codific UTF-8, i can't see ... from other user. What i do? I use kvirc 3.2.403:29
JEANMASSi need Updates and Security repos03:29
JEANMASSi am not sure if those too are available03:30
feierfoxok, i installed the restricted-manager, but where is it in my menue?03:30
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Miluxnobody use kvirc?03:30
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JEANMASSsecurity is important security updates in the update tabs in adept repositories manager?03:31
ZechsMilux : I am right now03:31
Zechsjeanmass : have you refreshed your repos, and checked for updates ?  if there are new ones they should pop up03:32
BluesKajkvirc is ok, just a bit confusing for these old eyes ...graphics are too busy03:32
Zechsjeanmass : if you've enabled the universe stuff ofcourse03:32
Zechsblueskaj : in what way ?03:32
Zechsblueskaj : do you also go by the name Blue-Sky by any chance ?03:33
JEANMASSyes03:33
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BluesKajmore like blues-ky03:33
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BluesKaja play on words , i suppose, Zechs03:34
adaptror pune03:34
Zechsjeanmass : well then I guess there either aren't any new ones or you should add a repos list like freshrpms that has them on board03:34
ZechsBluesKaj : hehe, nice play :-)03:34
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ZechsBluesKaj : thought we might have met on a board called userbase, that's why I asked03:35
JEANMASSbut i've just installed the latest version of amarok!03:35
BluesKajyeah, i find all fonts , colours, differnt graphics distracting on kvirc03:35
BluesKajno Zechs , i'm a relative newb to linux ...been only a yr or so03:36
Zechsjeanmass : sorry, got a bit distracted, perhaps you might try flipping your security and seeing if it affects it, which would indicate your sollution03:36
JEANMASSflipping my sec??03:37
JEANMASShow ?03:37
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ZechsBluesKaj : I've been using it for a couple of years, and I wouldn't call myself an expert either ;-)03:37
ZechsBluesKaj : You just learn along the way03:37
ZechsBluesKaj : I guess Kvirc just has to grow on you, like kde :-)03:38
Zechsjeanmass : selinux ?03:38
BluesKajyup, that's why i hang out here a lot ... old , retired and still learning :)03:38
JEANMASSselinux????03:38
JEANMASSchinessE?03:38
Zechsjeanmass : selinux = the module that enables your security,03:39
Zechshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SELinux03:39
JEANMASSi dont think i ve it03:39
JEANMASSis default?03:39
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ZechsBluesKaj : learning ain't that bad, it keeps you from forgetting (too much)03:40
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kukukukuis there any graphical partition mounter on kubuntu ?03:40
kukukukuis there any graphical partition mounter on kubuntu ?03:40
Zechskukuku : QT03:41
kukukukuqt c++ lib ??03:41
Zechsjeanmass : thought so, but I'm not so sure, you wanna browse through the faq, I might be confussing server and desktop environments03:41
Zechskukuku : otherwise try gparted, it's for gnome, but works quite nicely as well under kde03:42
Zechskukuku : ps do you know this one ? http://www.kde-apps.org/03:43
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BluesKajkukukuku, what about sys/settings/advanced/disk&filesystems/admin mode03:44
JEANMASSthanx for the help03:45
JEANMASScheers03:45
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Zechskukukuku : kdesu qtparted and/or gksudo gparted03:47
Zechskukukuku : sudo apt-get install qtparted03:47
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Pupeno2!mp303:49
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enzo_How do you restart KDE in command line?03:55
enzo_I am trying to kill beryl, but sudo killall beryl keeps me in beryl's desktop manager03:56
enzo_I can't do anything with white desktops03:56
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fritzwhere can i get some kick-ass themes for kubuntu?03:57
Zechshttp://www.kde-look.org/03:57
pagfritz, kde-look.org ?03:57
fritzand how do you install them? :-/03:57
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Zechsdownload them, and add them trought the graphical interface03:58
pag!theme03:58
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy03:58
Zechstheir are podcasts that also explain this, you might want to google them up03:58
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BluesKajsomeone was mentioning KPF as a easy way to share files over the net with friends , ..synaptic says it's installed , but it's not available using all the usual methods to call it up ...any ideas or suggestions ?03:59
fritzwhere is the themes buton on kubuntu? ^.^03:59
Zechscheck your system configuration04:00
BluesKajfritz, look in system settings/appearance04:00
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jhutchins!changethemes04:01
ubotuTo change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.04:01
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BluesKajjhutchins, do you know anything about kpf ?04:02
fritzisn't there a way to load it all at once?04:02
jhutchinsBluesKaj: sorry, never heard of it.04:03
BluesKajok np :)04:03
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omega__hy again to all04:04
draik!beryl04:04
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects04:04
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fritzisn't there a way to load it all at once?04:04
pagfritz, do you want to download *all* the themes from kde-look?04:05
fritzno, i downloaded the theme04:06
jhutchinsBluesKaj: dpkg -L kpf -- too bad you can't do rpm -qd kpf and find the docs.04:06
fritzand want to set it all up at once04:06
fritzcolors, wallpaper..windows style:P04:06
jhutchinsfritz: Did you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy04:06
BluesKajthx jhutchins, i could use alien , but i don't need it that badly :)04:06
jhutchinsfritz: or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu04:07
jhutchinsBluesKaj: alien probably wouldn't help.04:07
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BluesKajjhutchins, strange that kpf is listed as installed on synpatic tho04:09
jhutchinsBluesKaj: dpkg -L kpf04:09
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jhutchinsBluesKaj: It's fairly common that servers which can provide serious systems vulnerability require that you track down the config file and take some extra steps to start them.04:10
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daleHello04:11
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BluesKajI think it's part of the file sharing server, ...did a konq search and it looks like kpf is "part" of the the network file server04:11
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ubuntu_hi, I userd kubuntu livecd to boot in a notebook that is with some dab blocks, The qtparted see the nfts partiton, but I cant mount it. Any recommendation04:12
draikAnyone here having issues with their nvidia driver?04:12
draikI can't seem to get the smooth effects ever since the upgrade from edgy to feisty04:12
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BluesKajeye candy ... far more trouble than it's worth04:17
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draikBluesKaj: I can see that now, but I didn't have this issue with Edgy04:18
ubuntu_hi, I userd kubuntu livecd to boot in a notebook that is with some dab blocks, The qtparted see the nfts partiton, but I cant mount it. Any recommendation04:18
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draik!mount04:19
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter04:19
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ubuntu_tks04:21
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BluesKaj!DiskMounter04:26
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse04:26
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draikHow do you do the video test again?04:29
draikI forgot the command04:29
draikIt's the one with the 3 gears04:29
BluesKajglxgears04:30
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draikTried it. Not it04:30
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draikseems that I'm missing glx04:30
draik:(04:31
aabrahaomount code 32, mount failure04:31
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BluesKajdraik for fglrx drivers it's fgl_glxgears in the terminal04:32
draikNot that either04:32
draikcommand not found04:33
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BluesKajsudo aptitude install glxgears04:33
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ArwenBlueDevil, that's 'apt-get isntall mesa-utils'04:33
Arwenapt-get install mesa-utils even04:34
draikcan't find package glxgears04:34
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Arwendraik, the package is "mesa-utils"04:34
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BluesKajyup, that's it04:34
draikmesa-utils is already the newest version04:34
Arwenthen you should have glxgears04:34
Dr_willisfglx_gears i thought04:35
Dr_willisglx<tab> --->  glxdemo   glxgears  glxheads  glxinfo04:35
BluesKajdraik, are you typing in the terminal/konsole04:35
draikBluesKaj: Yes04:35
BluesKajwhat graphics driver/card , draik ?04:36
draiknVidia GeForce 5700LE04:36
draik256MB04:36
draikif that matters04:36
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Arwendraik, not really04:36
Arwenanyway, why are we discussing glxgears? it's not a benchmark.04:36
martikhi everybody04:37
BluesKajthen glxgears should be it , not the fglrx version04:37
MinatakuMorning, Dr_willis04:37
draikArwen: I can't get Beryl to work and I don't have the drivers as I used to with Edgy (Feisty now)04:37
ArwenI mean, I get 9000 fps in glxgears... but I get 30fps in quake, so...04:37
Arwendraik, are there any errors? sorry to interrupt.04:37
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draikArwen: No. It just turns my screen all white. I get nothing04:38
Arwenah, that bug :-)04:38
draikI had to uninstall beryl just to get a usable GUI again04:38
Dr_willis16838 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3367.582 FPS04:38
Arwendraik, set your render path to copy, or use "beryl --force aiglx"04:38
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draikArwen: Do what/where?04:39
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Arwen................04:39
BluesKajfgl_glxfears on ati cards gives a rotating cube with 3 rotating gears on each side ...dunno what glxgears does on nvidia04:39
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BluesKajerr fgl_glxgears :)04:39
Arwen25030 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5005.975 FPS -- glxgears is useless04:39
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Dr_willisglxgears is just the old fps tester tool04:39
Dr_willisBetter test then running.. say.. gltron :)04:39
draikArwen: what do you need me to do04:39
MinatakuDr_willis: I'm sure it's far easier in non-ultra-simple distros04:40
Pupenoglxgears is not a performance testing tool.04:40
Dr_willisMinataku,  aint you just a leetist. :)04:40
Arwendraik... open a terminal, run "beryl --force aiglx"04:40
pacmanany idea what I need to do to get my seagate external hard drive to work?  I'm not seeing it anywhere on my box04:40
Arwenor just use compiz, BERYL IS FUCKING DEAD04:40
Dr_willisMinataku,  its far easier to just not be addicted to silly eyecandy. ;)04:40
draikArwen: I removed beryl04:40
PriceChild!ohmy | Arwen04:40
ubotuArwen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:40
Arwenyes yes, sorry, geez...04:40
draikInstall beryl again?04:40
PriceChildArwen, compiz fusion is alive though04:40
MinatakuDr_willis: Like I am as well :D04:40
MinatakuI use Fluxbox04:40
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BluesKajthe fgl_glxgears test is for 3D and DRI on ati cards ...which is required to run apps like google earth etc04:41
Dr_willisI cant even keep up with the Beryl/Glx/compwiz stuff...04:41
Arwenforget it, ask someone else04:41
MinatakuDr_willis: I don't bother with any of it04:41
Arwenfgl_glxgears is ATI's take on glxgears... which is just as useless04:41
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MinatakuI'm of the mind that the WM should just manage windows04:41
MinatakuPeriod04:41
MinatakuWell, and launch apps04:41
ArwenMinataku, compiz does manage windows!04:41
Arwenit just manages them in a prettier way!04:41
MinatakuI feel the UI should do what it needs to do while staying out of the way04:42
Dr_willislike DOS! :)04:42
MinatakuWindow decorations, slit with clock04:42
MinatakuThat's it04:42
ArwenMinataku, hint: compiz/beryl are FASTER than metacity/kwin04:43
draikwell, I ran what Arwen said, but I can't use beryl it goes back to KDE.04:43
BluesKajArwen, not useless, 3D and DRI is a requirement to run google earth and other graphically intense apps04:43
MinatakuArwen: Not here they're not04:43
ArwenBluesKaj, no, but fgl_glxgears is useless04:43
MinatakuThey're 1000x slower04:43
ArwenMinataku, they're FASTER.04:43
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MinatakuArwen: No, they are NOT.04:43
Arwenhint: they're 3d *accelerated*04:43
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Arwenmetacity and kwin use software rendering to draw stuff04:43
MinatakuArwen: Hint: I DON'T HAVE 3D ACCELERATION04:44
Arwenthen go buy a computer!04:44
Arwen*duh*04:44
BluesKajwell Arwen, it's an indicator that your drivers are up to snuff .04:44
PriceChildLets all calm down please....04:44
Arwenyes, let's04:44
ArwenMinataku, and hint: you're in the minority04:44
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MinatakuI have a Trident card, there's hardly even Windows drivers for it04:44
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Dr_williswith tv tuner even; :)04:45
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MinatakuDr_willis: 1. Laptop. 2. No ATI.04:45
aabrahaoans stupid question. All the changes that I[m doing wull be list, because I'm using a live cd in a cdrw, right?04:45
MinatakuAnd FYI, X11 drawing methods are extremely fast on this system04:45
ArwenDr_willis, All in Wonder? lol...04:45
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MinatakuDr_willis: :P04:45
BluesKajMinataku, what brand pc or di you drop it in yerself ?04:45
Dr_willisArwen,  yep - had it for years.04:45
MinatakuBluesKaj: Older Toshiba laptop04:45
ArwenMinataku, start shoving moving windows around in circles, they *should* tear04:45
Minataku200304:45
MinatakuNice, powerful P4 but a lousy video card04:46
ArwenP4 != powerful, lol04:46
Dr_williscompared to my Pent3 laptop.. yes. it is.04:46
Arwenand wow, did Intel graphics not exist then?04:46
MinatakuArwen: Please shut up, your input is not wanted04:46
ArwenMinataku, Please shut up, your input is not wanted04:46
PriceChildMinataku, pm me please.04:46
Dr_willisI got a Pent 1 - 100 laptop also..04:46
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BluesKajany word on the next Kubuntu having better support for 64bit hardware ?04:47
ArwenBluesKaj, define "better". It runs on it, is that not enough?04:47
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PanzerMKZyou compare hardware but do you really use that old hardware04:48
Arwennope, we're just reminiscing04:48
MinatakuThis is my current system04:48
PanzerMKZI have here a p3 450. in use and running 24/704:49
MinatakuI don't buy a new computer every year04:49
BluesKajthe sound card on my amd 64 wasn't supported on the last offering as an example ...no matter what , I couldn't find drivers that worked04:49
MinatakuI keep them running for at least 5 years04:49
ArwenBluesKaj, was it proprietary hardware?04:49
Arwendrivers are a known issue on 64-bit04:49
MinatakuBluesKaj: Nobody's even making Windows x64 drivers04:49
PanzerMKZlater folks04:50
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BluesKajyes , onboard realtek04:50
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MinatakuI just realized, people talk about how "moving windows around" and such is slow04:51
morg0thhi all =)04:51
MinatakuI hardly EVER move windows around04:51
MinatakuI put them in one place and leave them there04:51
BluesKajthe x86 works well for this current setup , was merely curious about the next kubuntu release04:51
Dr_willisi tend to fullscreen everything and alt-tab or whatver around.04:51
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MinatakuI use one screen and multiple workspaces04:52
Dr_willisI gotta go get another monitor. having 2 was so handy. Id have to find a nother wall mount bracket however.04:52
MinatakuSwitching between workspaces causes nothing more than a momentary blip as the contents are blitted back into the VRAM04:52
Dr_willisMounting the LCD to the wall is DARN handy :)  freed up a lot of desk space.. enough for a .. 2nd monitor. :)04:52
Arwenhehe, I run dual-head by salvaging old CRTs :-\04:53
Arwencosts a lot in energy, but oh well04:53
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yourfriendminatuku >> true about winblowz drivers but who cares. lol04:57
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yourfriendminatuku >> windows stinks either way04:58
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Arwenyour windows stink? geez, pay some guy to clean em... or even do it yourself, geez04:58
Arwenlazy bums04:58
BluesKajreal glass window so i can see out into our property and see and hear what's going on outside04:59
ArwenBlueDevil, real Glass Window? Aero!05:00
ArwenBluesKaj, *05:00
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GrahamAArwen: And just as fragile as one.05:00
Arwenhehe, but let's drop the Windows-bashing, it's unprofessional05:00
GrahamASod that it's fun.05:00
Arwenpah05:00
Arwen(F/OSS zealots are a bunch of vandals! they smash Windows!)05:01
morg0thmay be anyone help me? when a do "aptitude install", my brouser(Opera & Konqueror) don't make connect on 80 port (Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock  )05:01
BluesKajno Arwen , tried vista for one day ...that was enuff for me ... nice eye candy etc but what a clunker :)05:01
Arwenmorg0th, something's still using your apt database05:01
Arwendo you have adept, another apt, or synaptic running?05:01
GrahamAI want to convert a windows server that does alot of stuff to linux, web hosting, e-mail, dhcp) but it also managed an active directory domain that i'd like windows machines to still be able to log into, any suggestions for distro, I've been mostly considering either opensuse or debian05:02
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ArwenBluesKaj, actually, I don't have responsiveness issues with Vista, but the increased hard drive cost makes it impossible for me to deploy it :-\05:02
Minatakuyourfriend: It was merely a way of noting that there's hardly any x64 support whatsoever05:03
ArwenGrahamA, SAMBA can kind of do AD, but I think you're gonna have to stick with Windows Server 2000/2003/200805:03
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yourfriendMinataku > yes. I understand that and wholeheartedly agree05:03
yourfriendMinataku > and it does suk05:03
BluesKajyeah, unreal space hog  for sure 8gig just for the OS and proprietary apps05:03
ArwenBluesKaj, yeh, I need to keep my Windows install on a 6GB partition, so Vista is a non-solution for me05:04
Arwenit is rather nice though05:04
GrahamAArwen: I'd just want set shares and to have settings/documents kept on the server.05:04
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Arwenhmm, samba should be able to do that for you, but I don't know. It's always been common sense to me to let Windows handle that Windows stuff.05:05
BluesKajXP-SP2 is the best windows app ...if there is such a thing, Arwen ; P05:05
Arwenhah05:05
ArwenI liked 2000 better actually.05:05
GrahamAArwen: I can't say you've given me alot of hope.05:06
Arwenmeh05:06
Arwenyou can handle smtp/imap and dhcp with Linux though05:06
GrahamAI know that!05:06
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GrahamAYou taty!05:06
morg0thArven - thnx! =) may be, but in my Ubuntu I don have it trobels. when I work in Ubuntu, I can update or install with apt & I can work in my brouser together, but in Kubuntu I have it troble ((05:06
ArwenGAH, WTF, my entire root fs is in my trash05:07
Arwenwtf?05:07
Arwen???05:07
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GrahamAUNLUCKY!05:09
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dthackerDoes someone have a link to the pdf version of the Ubuntu book?05:12
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solidus126hello05:13
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solidus126does anyone know how to enable direct rendering?  after de-installing compiz & beryl today I lost direct rendering and am having troubles getting it back up05:13
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solidus126i have my before and after xorg.conf and glxinfo for comparison...05:14
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Dr_willis troubles getting it back up..... 0_o05:14
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Dr_willisi dident think there was much changes to the xorg.conf for the  compwiz/berly stuff05:15
Dr_willistry 'diff xorg.old xorg.new' and see?05:15
solidus126I tried replacing the new with the old, but glxinfo still comes up with no dri enabled, and different results05:16
solidus126should I PM you the output?05:16
Dr_willissolidus126,  wont do much good. :) i thought thee was one line that enabled dri in the xorg.conf file05:17
Dr_willisi cant rember the details however.05:17
solidus126it is Load "dri" isn't it?05:17
Dr_willisthats what i thought.05:17
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Dr_willisif its not loading. may want to check the X logs and see if any info stands out as to why.05:17
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solidus126I'll see what I can do05:18
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solidus126bummer... I do have Load "dri" enabled, but no cigar05:20
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solidus126lol I am feeling kinda bad about it, I fixed this problem a week or two ago by putting the Extensions section at the end of xorg.conf but still no dice05:21
solidus126display: :0.0  screen: 005:22
solidus126OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.05:22
solidus126OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon X140005:22
solidus126OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)05:22
solidus126before my fglrxinfo turned that out now it is05:22
solidus126Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".05:22
solidus126display: :0.0  screen: 005:22
solidus126OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org05:22
solidus126OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect05:22
solidus126OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)05:22
solidus126anyone know what could get it back to the old one?05:23
Dr_willisAm i confised or is MESA like an Old not used much any more thing?05:24
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solidus126 @Dr_willis yeah I don't think MESA is used much, somehow in removing the Beryl and Compiz it reverted me to it instead of the fglrx05:25
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bjwebbhi05:26
Dr_willisYea.. its been so long. i cant rember. Sounds to me like its falling back to the Mesa/Software stuff.05:26
bjwebbi downloaded the jdk from the sun site05:26
Dr_willisIve seen this asked so many times here.. theres proberly a Huge thread on it - on the kubuntu forums.05:26
bjwebbhow do you make an ap run when you just type the name in05:26
kmtsgHow do I change so I play sound from my creative soundcard instead of the one built in the mb?05:26
Dr_willisbjwebb,  why. :) you can install java from the repos.05:26
bjwebbi just realised that05:26
bjwebbi didn't think it would be there05:26
bjwebbi forgot about the multiverse policy05:27
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bjwebbbut its such a big download05:27
Dr_willisthey just GPL'ed it :) hopefully soon it will be included by deault.05:27
solidus126I am going to scour the forums a bit more, did not have any luck earlier :(05:27
bjwebbDr_willis: i hope so05:27
Dr_willischmod +x whatever  && ./whatever05:27
Dr_willisis how ya execute somthing.05:27
bjwebbno but how to make it run from other directories05:27
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Dr_willisYou mean put it in your PATH ?05:28
Dr_williscopy/link it to one of the dirs in your PATH is one way05:28
Dr_willisecho $PATH05:28
bjwebbyes, i think so05:28
Dr_willisto see your current path.05:28
Dr_willisjava however is special. It has some other enviroment variables it likes set to see where its other files are at. I recall05:28
berserkeralguien que hable espaol?05:29
bjwebbwell this is just javac, rather than the JRE05:29
bjwebbso where is the path file?05:29
Dr_willisNo idea. I always just use the java from the repos.05:29
Dr_willisJava's stuff is normally set i recall from the Enviroment variables.05:29
Dr_willistheres not a 'file' that sets them. i recall.05:30
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solstugancan somone tell me how i completely remove LILO?05:30
solstugan;O that man is CRAZY05:31
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Dr_willisremove it and install grub?05:32
Dr_willisor remove it and isntall the windows boot loader?05:32
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solstugan1. my windows partition got whole damaged aftar taht i installd kubuntu....05:33
Dr_willisbooting the windows xp cd. and using their 'rescue/recover' shell the command 'fixboot' and/or 'fixmbr' should restore the original windows boot loader.05:34
Dr_willisOff for lunch.. BBL.05:35
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TeraDyneDr_Willis, IIRC, it's "fixmbr"05:35
Dr_willisive had to use both in some cases.05:35
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TeraDyneshows how messed up it is.05:35
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Dr_willislike their new improved fdisk command.. :)05:36
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TeraDyneTrue...05:36
depechehi there..05:36
berserkerhelp05:36
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TeraDynebeserker, what do you need help with?05:37
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berserkerhelp???05:38
pag!ask | berserker05:38
ubotuberserker: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:38
Miluxsomeone use kvirk?05:39
berserkeras configure flash at firefox of 64 bits?05:40
ubuntuis possible save all settings in live cd? I boot from live cd rw in a cdrw device05:41
dthackerMilux: Kvirc?05:41
berserker??05:41
Miluxdthacker: yes05:41
pag!flash64 | berserker05:41
ubotuberserker: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava05:41
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berserkerthanks05:41
dthackerYes, I do05:41
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grul!iso05:41
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.05:41
Miluxdthacker: i can't set the right utf...05:41
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Miluxdthacker: codific05:42
Miluxdthacker: i can't see the 05:42
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dthackerMilux:  Settings--->Configure Kvirc--->Encoding05:43
Miluxdthacker: ok05:44
dthackerMilux: Then choose your encoding from the "Use Language Encoding" dropdown05:44
Miluxdthacker: ok05:44
Miluxdthacker: some else05:45
dthackerMilux: another question?05:46
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Miluxi must restart kvirc? and what's your version?05:46
Miluxmine's 3.2.405:47
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dthackerI have 3.2.0 on this box and 3.2.4 on a laptop.05:47
fatii need help, my baby keeps doing this really cool thing where she mashes the keyboard an all of a sudden, i can select kde windows by typing the name in the title bar05:47
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fatishe's elite or something, i can't figure out how she gets it05:48
fatihehe05:48
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dthackerMilux: I don't know if you need to restart.  Try it and see!05:48
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Miluxdthacker: you haven't any problem with codific?05:48
Miluxdthacker:  it's ok now, thank you05:49
Milux:-)05:49
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daleHello05:50
dthackerMilux: np  :)05:50
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berserkerkisam,a05:52
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KartiHi, my mouse seems to have died after a reboot. COuld someone tell me what commands I can use to kill and restart it in a Konsole?05:53
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berserker??05:53
KartiI know the mouse works as its on a kvm and works on the other PCs and I have checked all cables05:54
matt_hey people05:54
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berserker???05:54
ardchoilleKarti: Um.. I don't think you can "kill" and "restart" a mouse.. it's a device.. either it works or it doesn't.05:54
epyfrohi !05:54
matt_this is my first time EVER using IRC05:54
ardchoilleKarti: Try unplugging it and plugging it back in.05:54
berserker??05:54
Kartiardchoille : will do beb05:55
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berserker??05:55
ardchoilleberserker: Is that the only key that works?05:55
ardchoillelol05:55
BluesKajberserker , just yer question05:55
BluesKajask05:56
klobsterI want to make a   partition that has /home,   and a shared media diectory (/shared), is it possible for me to do this and mount it to / or will it screw up my /mount; and is there a way for me to do this another way?05:56
matt_you can mount your /home directory to a seperate partition, and access if from /home under /, if that's what you mean05:57
BluesKajmust be an old windows guy who used seperate partitons for apps and OSs05:57
matt_that's what I'm doing05:58
klobsterwhat I mean is /home and /shared are on one patition, / is another partition05:59
matt_ah, I see05:59
BluesKajtried that ...just screwed up my access ...prolly cuz i din't do it properly at the get go05:59
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ardchoilleklobster: Ah, so /home and /shared are directories?05:59
Kartiardchoille Cheers looks like it was my ipod ;)06:00
klobsterardchoille: yes, hats correct06:00
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klobster^^ thats06:00
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ardchoillekalorin`: Ah, glad it's fixed :)06:00
BluesKajbest way is to setup separate partitons during the install06:00
gemidjyis there a way to put Windows in menu.lst automatically as ubuntu does when it is installing ?06:00
ardchoille!grub06:01
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:01
klobsteris there a way for me to mount this so that my root partition mounts at /, and my home and shared ((on theother partition) mount at /home and /shared ?06:01
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ubuntuhow can I save the configurations made in live cd, once the boot was in cdrw06:02
ubuntuhow can I save the configurations made in live cd, once the boot was in cdrw?06:02
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matt_klobster... I think you can do it with / home and /shared on seperate partitions of their own, and it seems like you could put them both on a single separate partition06:02
matt_i'm still a bit of a Linux newbie though, so that's giving me a headache, hehe... have you looked at the psychocats page?06:02
loopinHello I installed kuubuntu and now I cant boot into Windows (theres no option in menu) plz how can I get into windows06:03
TeraDyneloopin, what option did you choose when you installed Kubuntu?06:04
klobstermatt_: I know I can do it with /home and /shared on separate partitions, but I wanted them together on one...06:04
TeraDynewhen you partitioned your drive*06:04
loopinI installed it on seperate partition06:05
matt_klobster ah... yeah, I don't know if you can do that or not... I'm still too much of a newb to help you, sorry :)06:05
joncsnwhy does konquerer try to open realplayer files with movie player?06:05
joncsnhow can i fix this?06:05
loopinI already have kubuntu on it, I made a new partition for windows and then installed win on it. since win replaces grub, I reinstalled it. now I can only see kubuntu entries in grub and no win06:06
gemidjyhow can I downgrade to Kernel 2.6.20-1506:06
TeraDyneloopin, there's your problem. You'll have to add it manually06:06
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TeraDyne!grub | loopin06:06
ubotuloopin: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:06
TeraDyneloopin, that should help you in adding it back in.06:07
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kmtsganyone know how I get kubuntu to use my creative soundscard instead of the on-board one?06:08
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fryc97hello06:11
klobsterkmtsg:you have to disable yo sound card in  he bios;    or ask in  #alsa for info about switching soundcards06:12
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klobstersorry fr all teh typos; my wireless keybad s messed up06:12
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mcscrufflo all, how do you get xplanet to work06:14
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joncsnhow come after i configure konquerer to use realplayer it still tries to use totem?06:15
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theveranthow do I install missing modules for Kcontrol?06:16
draikjoncsn: I forgot how to configure it, but you have to change the settings within konqueror to not use totem06:17
theverantI can't seem to find the disk and filesystem module06:17
kmtsgklobster: no I havent turned it off, it worked to have it on in windows and gentoo. but I will ask in #alsa. thanks.06:17
theverantand I'm missing the displays module06:17
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klobsterok, I think I figured out what to do: first I make a home partition and add the dir .shared.  then I mount the partition to /home, and then mount /home/.shared to /shared.  it's ugly, but unless someone knows of a better way, that is what I will do.06:17
jhutchinskmtsg: multiple sound cards are one of the things that works in some distros but not others.06:17
enrygood afternoon06:17
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jhutchinsenry: Not yet, but I appreciate the sentiment.  What can we do for you?06:18
TeraDynejoncsn, right click on the file and select properties. There should be a small button next to the "Type" line. Click it.06:18
draikDoes anyone know how to get back the panel that shows all the open windows? I removed it when trying to remove the quick launch in Feisty06:18
theverantand the user management module.  I did a clean install of Kubuntu... why are all these pieces missing?06:18
kmtsgjhutchins: oh ok..  thanks for the info.06:18
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jhutchinskmtsg: They can be made to work, but you have to figure out what's being done differently (and I don't know myself).06:19
TeraDynejoncsn, After that, make sure the application you want it to use it at the top of the "Application Preference Order"06:19
enryoh i was just saying hello :D06:19
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joncsnits a stream link06:20
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joncsni went through the konquerer settings and deleted all other applications from the list except realplayer06:20
joncsnbut it still wants to use totem06:20
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TeraDyneThat's odd. In fact, that's really odd. I'm not sure if I can help then.06:21
kmtsgjhutchins: ok..  I'll try turnig it off in the bios first.06:21
jhutchinskmtsg: That's the easy way.06:22
joncsni cant even use firefox because then it tries to use embedded mplayer and doesnt play either06:22
joncsntotem gives me video but no sound06:22
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joncsnreal player will only work when i save target to my desktop first06:25
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aleksanterihi, kmix doesn't seem to find any mixers, how i fix this?06:25
fatahousalut06:25
fatahoubof i'm french it dead :)06:25
aleksanteri!fr06:26
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:26
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fatahouah je pensais  un truc comme ca06:26
fatahoumerci06:26
fatahouok06:27
fatahouje decouvre konversation06:28
jhutchinsjoncsn: Hang on, got something for you...06:28
fatahouca a l'air enorme06:28
aleksanteri!fr | fatahou06:28
ubotufatahou: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:28
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taahi06:28
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Ryielbinks: I'm back. Any luck?06:28
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taai've just installed kde under ubuntu, i was using gnome before, when kde starts somme application missed their icons06:29
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taahow to correct this please ?06:30
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jhutchinsjoncsn: Ok, have you actually uninstalled totem?06:31
jhutchinsjoncsn: ?06:31
BluesKajtaa, Icons are missing in the k-menu or panel or... ?06:31
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BluesKajtaa, check synaptic and make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed06:33
joncsnno should i uninstall it?06:33
joncsnwhats the best way to do that06:33
jhutchinsjoncsn: Yes, uninstall totem: apt-get --purge uninstall totem06:34
jhutchinsjoncsn: sorry: apt-get --purge remove totem06:34
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lufisI can't find the applet that changes screen resolution. where is it?06:35
ubuntuHi,  there is a errro fuse_2.6 required. I installed via  sudo fuse-source but I did not understand how to compile it06:35
joncsndo i need to restart? after i removed totem it still uses totem to open the file06:36
jhutchinslufis: krandrtray06:36
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jhutchinsjoncsn: How did you remove totem?06:36
lufisjhutchins: oh thank god. i was about to go blind06:37
joncsnsudo apt-get --purge remove totem06:37
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jhutchinsjoncsn: What happens now when you try to click on a link?06:38
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azzcoIs there any decent video editing program in the ubuntu repos?06:39
ubuntuhow recompile fuse06:39
ubuntu?06:39
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AlphaOmegai just burned kubuntu and ubuntu alt and reg, all 4 cds dont boot on my machine, yet gparted i birned and official xp dics will boot, any ideas?06:39
jhutchinsjoncsn: What has worked for me in konqueror is to take a local file of the same type as the link, right click on it in konq, and choose the application to open it with.  This provides a checkbox to "remember" what application should open it.  This makes that app the preferred one for a whole set of file types.06:39
BluesKajazzco, avidemux06:39
AlphaOmegaburned*06:39
azzcoThanks BluesKaj06:40
jhutchinsjoncsn: I'm not sure if this affects firefox or not, but it should.06:40
joncsnjhutchins: it brings up a small window telling me type: realaudo file and gives me the options to either save as. open with 'movie player,' or cancel06:40
aleksanterikmix doesn't seem to find any mixers, how i fix this?06:40
binksRyiel: well sort of ill paste my latest logs06:40
jhutchinsjoncsn: I had to uninstall a package called totem-common, but that doesn't seem to exist on ubuntu.06:41
jhutchinsjoncsn: Also, I don't think mplayer will handle real, you may find it easier to just install the real player.06:41
jhutchins!mp3 | joncsn06:41
ubotujoncsn: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:41
jhutchinsjoncsn: Instructions above.06:41
joncsni have installed real player06:42
lukequestion...06:42
jhutchinsjoncsn: It should have over-ridden the associations.06:42
binksRyiel:06:42
jussi01luke:  go on06:43
binksRyiel: http://www.pastebin.co.uk/1772106:43
binksooops06:43
jhutchinsjoncsn: make sure you have the pluggin installed and have scanned for it in firefox.06:43
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abrahaohow recompile fuse?06:44
lukei use ubuntu not kubuntu, and i was wondering what LVM volume is, because during my boot process, it strays away from whe smooth loading scren and goes to  text loadin LVM, do i need this, i would like to remove it if possible, as the smoothness of my system is being interruppted06:44
Ryielbinks: it looks it works06:45
Ryielerm, it seems to work06:45
jhutchinsluke: perhaps #ubuntu?06:45
jussi01luke: have you asked in #ubuntu ?06:45
jussi01hehe..06:45
jussi01just beat me to it....06:45
lukei use ubuntu not kubuntu, and i was wondering what LVM volume is, because during my boot process, it strays away from whe smooth loading scren and goes to  text loadin LVM, do i need this, i would like to remove it if possible, as the smoothness of my system is being interruppted06:45
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Ryiellol06:46
jhutchinsbinks: I've never had good luck with kaffeine, I much prefer mplayer.  VLC also seems to be one of the ones that "just work".06:46
binksbut what does>> nagra1 : failed to get CW mean06:46
joncsnjhutchins: how do i scan for the plugin in firefox?06:46
binksjhutchins: can vlc use the sc plugin06:46
jhutchinsHang on, let me fire it up.06:46
Ryielbinks: i bet it means wrong key format06:46
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binkshmm i may have to connect my dbox to get the keys from that06:47
Ryieli dont think vlc is capable of sat or cabletv06:47
abrahaowhere can I find apt-get install kernel-headers-2.4.27-1-686 ??06:47
binksnor me06:47
binksi wish i could get kvdr to work but i get an error telling me to turn off utf-806:48
Ryielbinks: have you checked my keyfile?06:48
Ryielbinks: vdr isnt that easy to get to work06:48
binksRyiel: yes thats how i got to that part lol06:48
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jhutchinsbinks: Sorry, darned if I know, my firefox doesn't appear to have any configuration for plugins or mime type handling.06:49
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jhutchinsI HATE firefox!06:50
Ryielpastebin yours and tell me which one you want to use06:50
Ryielbinks:06:50
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binksjhutchins: ive gone full circle and am back on konq06:50
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TeraDynejhutchins, that's why I perfer SeaMonkey.06:50
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binksRyiel: ok 1 min06:50
herrweltschaftso06:50
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herrweltschaftdas meinte ich - habe den treiber aktiviert und die kiste lie sich nicht mehr starten06:51
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herrweltschaftich hab nvidia-glx installiert, dann neu gestartet - wie es im wiki steht06:52
aleksanteri!de | herrweltschaft06:52
ubotuherrweltschaft: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de06:52
binksRyiel: http://www.pastebin.co.uk/1772206:52
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herrweltschaftdann treiber aktiviert mit "sudo nvidia-xconfig" und wollte neustarten, aber dann wollte er nicht mehr06:52
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Ryielbinks: nagra2 keys must have M1 or M206:54
Ryielnot just 00 or 0106:54
TeraDyne!de > herrweltschaft06:54
binksarr so if i find that add it below my 0 and 106:54
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binksTeraDyne: he went already06:55
TeraDyneah. Ok. I have join\part messages turned off06:55
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Ryielbinks: check out mine how it looks like06:56
binksyep but yours is like loaded with more than 1 provider  and confusing to a newbie06:56
binksRyiel: ^06:57
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Ryielbinks: ok, let me check it out06:58
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Ryielbinks: i cannot find those keys in my keyfile... where did you get those?07:01
binksRyiel: i need the m1 key for 5A0107:01
binksthose are cable keys ;) Ryiel07:01
Ryielif that's in nagra2 they have to have m1 key07:02
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Ryielif those nagra 1 then they dont have07:02
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azzcoI need to convert a video... Do I have to use ffmpeg with commands or is there a gui?07:03
karpiujol jol :D07:03
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mamusiaTwoja:)07:04
Dr_willis!find avid07:04
Ryielbinks: btw, if you find the m1 key, just change it to M1 5A01 key07:04
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ubotuFound: avida-base, avida-qt-viewer, avida-viewer, sword-comm-tdavid, avidemux07:04
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Dr_willis!info  avidemux07:04
ubotuavidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB07:04
Dr_willis avidemux is good for converting some videos to other formats.07:04
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modI need help07:05
Dr_willisits NOT a frontend to ffmpeg.07:05
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Ryielmod just tell whats your problem07:05
azzcoI don't get how to convert with avidemux =/07:05
BluesKaj!tovid | azzco07:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:05
modRyiel I don't speak english07:06
Dr_willisazzco,  time to learn? :)07:06
Ryielmod: What is your native language then?07:06
Dr_willisazzco,  open file, select the options, select save...07:06
binksazzco: you got to be kidding me avidemux is sooo easy just load and select Auto then DVD07:06
azzcoYeah but I ony get how to select and I see the calculator options... but I have no idea how to actually do the encoding..07:06
modRyiel polski :)07:06
modpoland07:06
modpolish07:07
Ryiel!pol | mod07:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:07
Ryiel!pl | mod07:07
ubotumod: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl07:07
Dr_willisI reencode stuff to xvid all the time for my GP2x07:07
mod!pl07:07
RyielSo you know where you can get help :)07:07
azzcoOMG That was to easy...07:08
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no_Obhi07:08
modRyiel I fuck You ;)07:08
no_Obwhat was that repository for opera?07:08
no_Obthe commercial repo?07:08
PriceChild!ohmy | mod07:08
ubotumod: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:08
Dr_willis!opera07:09
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser07:09
Dr_willis!find opera07:09
modPriceChil ?07:09
ubotuFile opera found in apparmor-profiles, crossfire-maps, crossfire-maps-small, debian-edu-config, localization-config07:09
Dr_willis!info opera07:09
ubotuPackage opera does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:09
Dr_willishmm.. i just saw it..07:09
Dr_willisoh wait that was a MintLinux repo.07:09
modaaaaaaaaaaaaa jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa possszzzzzzzzzukkkkkkujjjjjjjjjeeeeeeee kogos kto G A D A   P O    P O L S K U :D :D :D07:09
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codemonkeI'm trying to install kubuntu 7.04 on an amd64 machine w/ an NVidia 8800GTS.  I can't get the graphical installer to work though.  I just get a blank screen when the installer starts.07:10
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BluesKajmod, in the server textbox type: /join #ubuntu-pl07:11
codemonkeAre there any boot options I can use to tell the installer to use the nvidia driver?07:11
Tm_TBluesKaj: he's gone already07:11
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karpiuence pence07:12
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BluesKajyeah ,Tm_T, he beat me to it :) ...the main thing is he left:)07:12
BluesKajor was kicked07:13
abrahaowhere can I find apt-get install kernel-headers-2.4.27-1-686 ??07:13
no_Obthat's not the one I was talking about07:14
aleksanterihe was removed07:14
no_Obthere was like a official ubuntu commerciaol repo07:14
BluesKajwell, BBL ...too nice out to stay inside today07:14
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Dr_willisi recall there being some issues wht the 8800 video cards07:14
Dr_williscodemonke,  may want to use the alternative installer cd07:14
codemonkeI am07:15
codemonkeWait, no, I'm using the dvd07:15
Dr_willisi think the dvd MIGHT have both on it.. not sure how the dvd differs07:15
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no_Ob!commercial07:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:15
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codemonkeHow can I instruct the installer to use it then?07:16
Sayers!ubuntu07:16
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com07:16
codemonkeIf it were there07:16
no_Obanyone konw how to add a commercial repo to Ubuntu?07:16
no_Obthe feisty commercial repo?07:16
no_Obit's a matter of life or death07:16
no_ObI need it ASAP07:16
Arwenno_Ob, lol, one second07:16
devnullWell spamming07:16
devnulllike07:17
devnullthis07:17
devnullWon't get you an answer any quicker ;)07:17
Arwen deb http://archive.canonical.com feisty-commercial main07:17
Arwen deb-src http://archive.canonical.com feisty-commercial main07:17
Arwenpaste those into your sources.list07:17
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no_Obdeb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main07:17
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no_Obmm... mine looks different07:17
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no_Obyours is better?07:17
no_Obdoes yours work?07:17
lmerovingioHola a todos07:18
Arwenyes.. mine just has a line for source code07:18
lmerovingioestoy tratando de ejecutar php-mysql07:18
no_Oblmerovingio: calla mierda07:18
cugel!sp07:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:19
Arwen!es | lmerovingio07:19
ubotulmerovingio: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:19
ArwenI think07:19
abrahaohow Can I install kernel-headers-2.4.27-1-686 ??07:19
lmerovingiook, sorry, jaja07:19
devnullew 2.4 ?07:19
Tm_Tabrahao: what you are doing?07:19
lmerovingioI am new07:19
Arwenuh... apt-get install linux-headers-2.4.27-1-68607:19
Arwenwhy the hell do you need headers that old? are you using Hoary or something?07:19
Tm_T!ohmy | Arwen07:19
ubotuArwen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:19
Tm_T(;07:20
Arwenhuh??/07:20
lmerovingiocan you help me, the problem is that when I try to acced to the localhost/prueba.php appears the dialog to download or open the file07:20
devnullhell is not bad language..07:20
Tm_Tit's not, but not needed either07:20
devnullimbrandon: install php07:20
devnulllmerovingio: install php and configure apache or whatever your using properly.07:20
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abrahaoArwen - couldnt find packag, maybe repository07:20
abrahao?07:21
Tm_Tabrahao: packages.ubuntu.com might help07:21
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Arwenabrahao, *sigh* what package? maybe you should search before asking?07:22
joncsnwhats the best way to uninstall and reinstall flash?07:22
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PriceChildmaybe you should tell everyone the real problem joncsn07:22
Arwenjonasp, apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree && apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree. what's your problem?07:23
joncsnflash only works sometimes07:23
Arwenthat's not an installation issue...07:23
joncsnlike on the adobe site, it says flash works fine07:23
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joncsnwhat sort of issue do you think it is?07:23
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XVampireXI'm on quad core here people :D07:24
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XVampireXdoes anyone want to help me with networking a bit?07:24
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XVampireXeverything works except konqueror07:24
XVampireXI'm on livecd, and it's as fast as heck :D07:24
Arwen!doesn't work | XVampireX07:24
ubotuXVampireX: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.07:24
XVampireXI mean07:25
XVampireXit doesn't want to connect to websites07:25
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Arwenexplain. Maybe it's an ipv6 issue?07:25
Tm_TXVampireX: and error is what?07:25
XVampireXAn error occurred while loading http://www.google.com:07:25
XVampireXCould not connect to host http://www.google.com/.07:25
ArwenTm_T, is this an ipv6 problem?07:26
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Tm_Tuhm07:26
Tm_TXVampireX: try other pages too, some local sites, international ones etc07:26
XVampireXDoesn't work07:27
aleksanterikmix doesn't seem to find any mixers, how i fix this?07:27
Tm_T!fi | aleksanteri07:27
ubotualeksanteri: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi07:27
aleksanterihmm07:27
Tm_Talso, hummm07:28
Tm_T!sound | aleksanteri07:28
ubotualeksanteri: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:28
aleksanterichecked them already07:28
abrahaoTm_T - I cant find kernel-headers-2.4.27-1-686 in packages.ubuntu.com. any ideia?07:28
Tm_Tabrahao: why you need it?07:28
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Arwenabrahao, that's because Ubuntu doesn't ship kernels that ancient07:28
Arwengo to kernel.org and download the source07:29
Arwenand actually, that might be in Debian, considering how ancient they are07:29
devnullArwen: that is probably over his head07:29
Arwendevnull, too bad for him... he never told us what is issue was.07:29
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abrahaoTm_T - to compule fuse 2.607:31
Tm_Tabrahao: and you would do that because...07:31
devnullArwen: yeah and even the debian package list has nothing from 2.407:31
Arwen...and why can't you compile fuse against a *modern* kernel?07:31
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Arwendevnull, hehe07:31
Tm_TArwen: because its in modern kernel07:31
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ArwenTm_T, oh07:31
Tm_TIIRC07:32
XVampireXI fixed it07:32
XVampireXwas a dhcp/dns problem07:32
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Arwenheh07:32
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Tm_TXVampireX: good07:32
XVampireXheh07:32
joncsncan someone tell me if flash works for them on this website?07:32
devnullyuck debian is still on 2.6.18 for stable07:33
joncsnhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19355342/07:33
XVampireXThis is gonna be wild when I install the system :D07:33
devnullThey are gradually getting better about packages though07:33
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ArwenDebian Stable is an exercise in obsolescence...07:33
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joncsnwhen i click launch it says i need to install flash07:34
robotgeekdevnull: but, its stable :)07:34
devnullrobotgeek: If you say so07:34
devnullThere are alot of different factors that determine "stable"07:34
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abrahaotm_t - I'm installing the ntfs-3g package, and it is required to mount the ntfs volume07:34
devnullOutdated packages do not always mean they are more stable. Things such as hardware and and platform can interfere quite a bit.07:35
Arwenso... apt-get install ntfs-3g. What's the issue?07:35
devnulli.e.: amd64 in almost any distro is more stable w/ testing packages.07:35
devnulleven in gentoo o.O07:35
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ArwenGentoo has "stable"? o.O07:35
devnullArwen: Yeah07:36
devnullthey call testing: Arch07:36
robotgeekdamn, i killed myself07:36
devnulland beyond that is hardened07:36
devnulltbh after getting a full system up and running properly, (even on an ~arch install) it was more stable than most current distros07:37
devnullThough I must say, kubuntu/ubuntu has been nearly flawless so far.07:37
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ArwenGentoo is lame... it takes half an hour to install *anything*07:38
crocodilesudo apt-get install compiz  # compiz-gnome AND/OR compiz-kde07:38
devnulllol Arwen, not totally true07:38
crocodiledoes this mean to type install compiz AND compiz-kde , or is compiz-kde enough?07:38
Arwenum, totally true07:38
devnullcrocodile: no07:38
Arwen(compiling..... compiling..... eta 30 min....)07:38
devnullcrocodile: if you have kde use compiz-kde07:39
TeraDyneGentoo, the GCC screensaver.07:39
devnulland likewise w/ gnome07:39
crocodileok thought so07:39
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abrahaoI just need to aceess the ntfs volume07:39
devnulllol Arwen. It all depends on the package and everything else. The only things that REALLY take alot of time are: gcc, glibc, Xorg, kde/gnome07:40
devnullplus ccache speeds things up quite a bit07:40
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Arwendevnull, ffmpeg, mplayer, oo.o, firefox, anything by mozilla, etc etc07:41
crocodiledevnull - another question, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager # compizconfig-backends-* ?!07:41
aleksanteridon't forget QT!07:41
devnulloh yeah and QT07:41
crocodiledevnull - what does the # and ?! represent in this?07:41
aleksanteri:p07:41
devnullcrocodile: just means to also install that07:42
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devnullcrocodile: the # is usually the sign for a terminal command.07:42
crocodileyes but why are they added to the lines?07:42
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devnulland the AND is just like that so you know not to include it in the line07:42
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joncsncan someone help me configure a printer over a network?07:43
devnulljust do: apt--get install compiz && apt-get install compiz-kde07:43
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joncsni have the driver but my printing jobs just sit there in the queue07:43
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devnullArwen: Your just insane if you feel the need to compile oo.o07:44
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ar4446140890newhere can I gind the commands for irc?07:44
joncsnthe printer is on windows xp home, i have samba installed07:44
Arwenar4446140890ne, type "/help"07:44
ar4446140890nethx07:44
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devnullfor things such as firefox/thunderbird and oo.o, they have binaries.07:44
sundaris it possible to always use kde file manager in kubuntu ?  when I save files to disk using firefox I get a file manager07:45
sundari mean a gnome file manager07:45
devnullsundar: change your default programs07:45
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ar4446140890ne@ Arwen if it would work. which programm do you use?07:45
devnullsundar: System Settings on the menu, then Default Applications07:46
Arwenar4446140890ne, to do what?07:46
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devnullArwen: Irc07:46
ar4446140890neyes07:46
devnullkonversation doesnt show help07:46
ArwenXChat, Konversation, or irssi. Take your pick.07:46
abrahaoI just need to aceess the ntfs volume07:46
ArwenI use XChat07:46
aleksanterikvirc \o/07:47
Arwenlol @ kvirc07:47
sundardevnull..I have only email clinet, emberdded text editor, instant messenger, terminal emulator and web browser...07:47
ar4446140890ne"/help" didnt work07:47
devnullar4446140890ne: http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/konvi-cmds.html07:47
ar4446140890nethx07:47
aleksanterithere's nothing lol in kvirc :P07:48
Arwen:-P07:48
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titanshi07:49
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titansisn't a flat screen supposed to run a 60Hz? mine is at 1280x1024@56Hz07:50
titansI am concerned it'll fry or sumthin07:50
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devnulltitans: running below is usually not bad07:50
Arwentitans, it *should*, but they won't fry07:50
Arwenmine runs at 75Hz07:50
devnullabove can mess things up07:50
titansArwen: is better at 75Hz?07:51
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titansArwen: what's the difference?07:51
devnulltitans: It can also be a misinterpretation of the system, etc.07:51
Arwentitans, only if your display supports it... basically more Hz means you can see more fps07:51
devnullAlso if its not really a name brand, they usually skip out on little things like that to save money.07:51
titansok07:52
titansMORE FPS for free??!!!07:52
crocodileI installed compiz fusion, all installation steps worked and I run it but the effects aren't actually happening07:52
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Arwentitans, you can *see* more fps. Doesn't mean you *have* more fps.07:52
crocodileany suggestions?07:52
XVampireXPeople07:53
XVampireXI have no idea how to install this...07:53
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Kjellvizwhere can i change "default programs" in kde ? (i want to change what torrent program is used by default)07:53
titansdamn! I don't have @75Hz I have 74Hz and 76Hz which one shouyld I pick?07:53
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titansArwen: System Settings says so07:54
Arwendunno, don't ask me :-\07:54
titansyou know what I'll pick 76Hz, higher better07:54
XVampireX"Can't have the end before the start!"07:54
XVampireXDoes anyone have any idea what this means?07:54
ArwenXVampireX, what are you trying to do?07:55
XVampireXtrying to create 3 partitions07:55
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XVampireX1 for root, one for home and one for swap07:55
XVampireXit won't let me07:55
Arwenscreenshot07:55
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lord_earthshipI see I have to learn English as well as I could^^07:57
XVampireXwait I'll upload it to imageshack07:58
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XVampireXhttp://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7538/snapshot1ke0.png07:58
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XVampireXany idea?07:59
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Lunar_LampXVampireX, I think it's because the first partition should start at the start of the disk.08:00
Lunar_Lamp(so the MBR can be read from there)08:00
crocodilewow wow, compiz fusion is loads better than beryl08:00
Lunar_LampTry setting it up like that.08:00
XVampireXOh, okey08:01
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XVampireXYeah, I think that will work :D08:01
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XVampireXno it doesn't let me08:02
draikWhat do I need to have my OpenGL screensavers to work?08:03
Arwenuh, 1) Grammar check08:03
XVampireXI'm gonna do some automatic install anyway08:03
Arwen2) working DRI/DRM08:03
draikArwen: Whoopsie. 2 thoughts into one08:04
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Lunar_Lampdraik, basicallym, you need to install the drivers that allow opengl acceleration for your graphics card to be utlised.08:04
draikLunar_Lamp: nVidia. Been having issues all day with the drivers.08:04
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Lunar_Lampdraik, well, I'm not the best person to ask about setting up graphics cards, but that's pretty much wha tyou need.08:05
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draikThank you Lunar_Lamp08:06
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Arwenwhy can't I have a 1600x1600x1600 monitor?08:06
Arwengrr!!!!08:06
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crimsunbecause you haven't invented it yet08:07
Lunar_LampArwen, because that would be a 3D surface...08:07
crimsunnow get right on it ;p08:07
Lunar_LampIndeed crimsun, I'd quite like one of those too ;-)08:07
ArwenLunar_Lamp, so?08:07
Lunar_LampArwen, holographic technology isn't up to it yet :-(08:08
Arwen:-(08:08
draikHow do I change the resolution of my login screen. I'm using 1280x1024 and the screen seems WAY over that setting. I have to move my mouse to the end of the screen to move around to the login section.08:08
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Arwendraik, eh, sounds like broken drivers08:08
Kjellvizwhere can i change "default programs" in kde ? (i want to change what torrent program is used by default)08:08
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draikArwen: Not surprised.08:09
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draikI'm starting to regret my upgrade from Edgy to Feisty08:09
nosrednaekimI never upgrade... I just do fresh installs08:09
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middletonih08:10
middletonI don't have border with beryl!!!08:10
middletonwhat was that garb something that I had to add?08:10
draikmiddleton: I just reload the app or beryl08:11
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middletondraik: no there was something about GARB in xorg I need to add to change08:12
middletonI just forgot exactly what with a Geforce 520008:12
XVampireX_gonna restart soon we'll see how fast this thing goes on :D08:12
draik!beryl | middleton08:12
ubotumiddleton: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects08:12
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devnull!ati08:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:16
middletonthis one ? Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"08:16
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nosrednaekimyeah.08:17
nosrednaekimmiddleton: if you have an nvidia card08:17
middletonnosrednaekim: well I just did this sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 2408:18
middletonis that the same?08:18
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middletonyep it's the same08:18
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abrahaoHow can I save the changes in live cd?08:20
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nosrednaekimabrahao: your can't08:22
nosrednaekim*you08:22
abrahaotks08:22
crocodileI have compiz running just fine, my question is how do I use all the different features of it?  I can enable/disable things in the config panel but it doesn't have tooltips on how to actually use them08:23
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Arwencrocodile, basically, you have to read the descriptions or the docs. The control panel is a work in process.08:23
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DanaKilhi08:23
nosrednaekimcrocodile: thats why I use beryl, because it displays all the shortcuts08:23
crocodilenosrednaekim: this is a lot more optimized than beryl for me, running much smoother08:24
devnullheh I love ati -_-08:24
abrahaonosrednaekim - even in a cdrw with a cdr recorder?08:24
nosrednaekimabrahao: yeah.08:24
crocodileArwen: darn, well at least its a solid answer thanks :X08:25
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abrahaothanks08:25
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nosrednaekimif you have files and things you can always put them on a USB stick08:25
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ubuntukuku08:25
Kjellvizcrocodile: where did u get compiz fusion ?08:27
crocodilefrom the repositories ;)08:27
crocodilegetting you a link, 1 sec08:27
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Kjellvizsweet tnx08:28
crocodilehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48161508:28
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Kjellvizthanks =D08:28
nosrednaekimoh..compizfusion? cool..08:28
Kjellvizbtw what is katapult ?08:28
nosrednaekimi'm getting that!08:28
aleksanteria launcher08:28
Arwensay, compiz fusion is the name of the beryl/compiz merger right?08:29
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crocodileyep Arwen08:29
aleksanterioh i thought it'd come coral08:29
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Kjellvizaleksanteri: what is a launcher and what does it launch ? ><08:29
omega__hello to all again08:29
aleksanterilol08:29
crocodilei press alt-space and katapult opens but dosnt do anything :X08:29
omega__i'm the new one in linux08:30
aleksanteriKjellviz: first start katapult, then press alt-space, write the application's name that you want to start and press enter and it will open for you08:30
crocodilenice one08:30
omega__how can i install samba?08:30
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nosrednaekimomega__: I think its already installed08:31
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Arwenomega__, apt-get install samba smbfs08:31
Kjellvizaha that explains it08:31
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omega__tanks arwen :)08:32
Kjellvizthanks a lot08:32
Kjellvizthat was the tip of the day!08:32
omega__so i think to nosrednaekim08:33
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omega__but it doesn't work08:33
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Arwenomega__, explain how it doesn't work. But no, samba is not preinstalled, only the client.08:34
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zindenhello, i need some help with firefox.....my search engines on upper right corner is gone. using gran turismo latest08:34
binksRyiel: got it working m8 thanks for everything it was the key found one on a russian site :):)08:35
nosrednaekimzinden: #firefox08:35
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omega__it says that samba and nfs servers are not instaled08:36
omega__arwen08:36
crocodilezinden - right click and configure.. and isn't gran turismo a playstation game?08:36
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omega__i'm gone be right back arwen08:37
zindencrocodile: lol, yes...i ment gran paradiso :)  and i cant do that....as they arent there08:37
krautmoin08:37
omega__gone for a smoke'08:37
zindencrocodile: i think there is in firefox regular folder....dont know where in computer to look08:37
crocodileload firefox and right click the menu bar, choose configure08:38
crocodileyou change the appearance there08:38
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crocodile*customize rather08:38
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Kjellvizi installed kde-desktop on ubuntu, and it seems its still using the gnome tool for choosing screensavers08:42
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Kjellvizwhatever i do in desktop system settings in kde, it does not change my screensaver08:43
Kjellvizany ideas ?08:43
aleksanteriremove gnome?08:43
aleksanteri:P08:43
Kjellvizthat could solve it, but ive got some progs that i suspect need gnome to run08:43
Kjellviz><08:43
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aleksanteriremove them too :P08:44
uroshi all.08:44
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Kjellvizhelpfull today ?08:44
nosrednaekimif you are going to be kubuntu user..... BE A KUBTUTU USER! ;)08:44
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urosmy ext.drive won't automount anymore, i have to mount it by hand (and using sudo).08:45
aleksanterikubtutu?08:45
nosrednaekimKjellviz: just use the gnome tool then08:45
Kjellvizim not08:45
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nosrednaekimaleksanteri: heh08:45
Kjellvizim a ubuntu user that is trying kde08:45
nosrednaekimKjellviz: hehe... sorry I was just kidding.08:45
Kjellvizwhats the gnome tool called ?08:45
nosrednaekimKjellviz: no clue... it should be somewhere in the kmenu though08:46
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Kjellvizhmmk08:47
Kjellvizsomething tells me i should have just installed kubuntu instead of ubuntu and then adding kde ><08:47
nosrednaekimKjellviz: did you do "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"?08:48
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Kjellvizkde-desktop i think08:48
Kjellvizbut else, yes08:48
aleksanteriwhen trying gnome i first installed kubuntu, then installed gnome and removed kde and everything was fine08:48
nosrednaekimKjellviz: ah... run that command I gave you.....08:48
aleksanteriexcept that i still had the ubuntu bootsplash that is :P08:48
juan278how do i pair a phone with my pc?08:48
aleksanterikubuntu!! *08:49
piterson???08:49
Kjellvizits all installed it says08:49
nosrednaekimKjellviz: you did that?08:50
Kjellvizran the command08:50
Kjellvizit says its all installed and up 2 date08:50
Ryielbinks: congrats, i did nothing :D08:50
Kjellvizbut its kinda fubar08:50
nosrednaekimKjellviz: no joy with the screen saver though?08:50
Kjellvizcos the kde settings is 1 desktop08:50
Kjellvizbut i have 4 ><08:51
nosrednaekimKjellviz: interesting.08:51
binksyou pointed me alot cheers and the case sensitive .kaffeine was your fix :)08:51
Kjellvizohhh thats prob compiz08:51
binksRyiel: now for mythtv :)08:51
Kjellviznvm the workspaces08:51
nosrednaekimKjellviz: you're not running beryl are you?08:51
Kjellvizno, compiz08:51
nosrednaekimah.. right08:51
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Kjellvizan older version, not the new compiz fusion08:52
Ryielbinks: go for it. I stick to kaffeine, it works and easy08:52
Schuenemann!wma08:52
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:52
binkshow do i record in kaffeine08:52
Ryieltell me your experiences with mythtv later ;)08:53
Ryielthat little floppy disc icon :D08:53
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Ryielor you can use timed record08:53
Ryieljust set it up first in options08:53
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Schuenemannwhich package I have to install in order to play wma? the wiki isn't clear08:54
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nosrednaekimI think xine-extracodecs gets it.08:55
binksok cheers :) and i will also ill get you access to a uk sat forum (closed doors atm) very good with the encryption stuff if ya like08:55
nosrednaekim*libxine08:55
SchuenemannI already have that, but I think it's for mp308:55
nosrednaekimSchuenemann: welll.... wma plays for me.08:55
Schuenemannwith only that package?08:56
Schuenemann!w3208:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:56
Schuenemann!w32codec08:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:56
Schuenemann!w32codecs08:56
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs08:56
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GrahamASchuenemann: You need to install w32codecs which by default isn't in the ubuntu repository, try adding medibuntu08:57
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GrahamAThough medibuntu for me is very slow, so I disable it when I'm not using it.08:57
Schuenemannhmm08:57
Ryieljust simply do not use wma :D08:57
Ryielisnt vlc playing it?08:57
Ryiel*doesnt08:57
Schuenemannlet me try08:57
GrahamASchuenemann: Trust me :)08:57
Ryieltry vlc08:57
SchuenemannGrahamA, I trust you, but testing vlc is quicker heh08:58
devnullunfortunately alot of popular sites use wmvs...08:58
Schuenemannnope, vlc doesn't play it08:58
GrahamASchuenemann: Nooo... anything but VLC!08:58
devnull<3 mplayer08:59
GrahamALove xine/amarok.08:59
SchuenemannGrahamA, I just have to add 'medibuntu' ?08:59
Kjellvizin kubuntu/ubuntu08:59
Schuenemanndeb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse medibuntu08:59
ArwenVLC can't play WMA08:59
Arwenperiod08:59
Arwenor at least, the distro's crappy VLC can't08:59
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GrahamA!medibuntu09:00
Kjellvizhows the best way to go about reinstalling without loosing to much settings and documents ?09:00
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org09:00
Arwen!medibuntu | Schuenemann09:00
Arwenread that please09:00
ubotuSchuenemann: please see above09:00
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Arwenno...09:00
Schuenemannthe bot is smart09:00
GrahamASchuenemann: I love the bot, I just hate some of the people who use it.09:00
nosrednaekim!botsnack09:00
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!09:00
ArwenKjellviz, migrate your /home to a separate partition09:00
ubuntuwoot, so i lost my linux virginity today *giggle*squirt*lights cig*09:00
GrahamA:D09:00
GrahamAubuntu: Fucking hell...09:01
ubuntuhow do i go about getting my custom settings commited to a custom livecd?09:01
KjellvizArwen: sweet thanks09:01
GrahamAAnd nobody give me !language09:01
Schuenemannecho "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ edgy free non-free" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list09:01
PriceChild!Ohmy | GrahamA09:01
ubotuGrahamA: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:01
Schuenemannthis will append?09:01
GrahamAOR THAT!09:01
titans!fonts09:01
KjellvizArwen: guess it cannot be a windows partition ? ><09:01
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer09:01
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Schuenemannappend that string to sources.list ?09:01
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athenaick, talking over tor while using BT is unacceptably slow09:02
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noobuntuowned by sum1 else?09:02
GrahamAubuntu: I've seen you here alot, are you saying you've only TODAY installed Linux?09:02
noobuntugotta be kiding me09:02
Kjellvizalso, is the 7.10 alpha up for grabs anywhere ?09:02
noobuntunah, i just run it off a disk09:02
noobuntufunny though09:03
noobuntudefault ircnick for Konversation=ubuntu09:03
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GrahamAnoobuntu: OIC09:03
nosrednaekimfor me it was my user name09:03
codemonkeMore fun w/ nvidia cards09:03
noobuntuwanna get this thing to automatically boot apache/mysql/php09:03
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SchuenemannGrahamA, I got some 404 not found09:04
noobuntuhow do i commit my installations or install scripts and build a new cd09:04
noobuntuimage.09:04
GrahamASchuenemann: Some 404? Don't tell my mom!09:04
GrahamA!medibuntu09:04
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org09:04
codemonkeSo I'm haviing issues getting the nvidia driver to work.  So just for the time being I changed the xorg.conf to use the vesa driver.09:04
SchuenemannGrahamA, I did what was written there09:04
GrahamASchuenemann: Open adept manager09:04
codemonkeI can boot in recovery, run X -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and it works09:05
codemonketelinit 3, and I get my desktop w/ the vesa driver.09:05
athenacodemonke, you know, you could just use the nv driver..09:05
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codemonkeBut I still get a blank screen if I boot in normal mode09:05
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SchuenemannGrahamA, how about that part-installation?09:05
GrahamAathena: I doubt it, vesa is for ATI cards :)09:05
GrahamAJust do it.09:06
crocodilewhen I run emerald, I get this error constantly:      (emerald:18768): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)09:06
nosrednaekimGrahamA: its for all cards09:06
athenabut he said he had issues with nvidia, lol09:06
athenaand yeah, vesa is generic09:06
codemonkeI don't the the nv driver doesn't work w/ the 8800.09:06
SchuenemannGrahamA, ok, I opened09:06
nosrednaekimcodemonke: oh... the 8800..09:06
athenalol @ 880009:06
nosrednaekimyou have to get the beta driver for that09:06
athenaFAIL :-P09:06
GrahamAGo to adept > manage repositores.09:06
nosrednaekimor the newly release 100.xx.xx09:06
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GrahamAcodemonke: Try nvidia-glx-new09:07
codemonkeI did09:07
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Schuenemannmedibuntu is there09:07
codemonkeI was using the 9755 w/ other distributions just fine09:07
GrahamASchuenemann: Done? Click on third-party tab... ok.09:07
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codemonkeReguardless though, the vesa driver should at leasst work09:07
Schuenemannwhere is that tab?09:08
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GrahamAkbuntu software | third party software | updates09:08
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GrahamAIs the box next to medibuntu checked?09:08
codemonkeAnd it does work if I boot in recovery, and then switch to run level 3.  But not if I boot in normal mode09:08
SchuenemannI don't see any of that09:08
SchuenemannI'm on edgy, btw09:08
Dusk_does anyone know how can i install my usb adsl modem on kubuntu???09:08
GrahamAEdgy doesn' have that.09:09
SchuenemannGrahamA, there is no box09:09
Schuenemannhmm09:09
GrahamARight click and enable it.09:09
Schuenemannenable what? there isn't a box09:09
GrahamAright CLICK ON MEDIBUNTU!09:09
Schuenemanndisable, clone or remove09:10
GrahamAIt's enabled, aske somebody else.09:10
GrahamAI don't know.09:10
Schuenemannof course it's enabled09:10
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Schuenemann!lock09:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:12
devnull!mediabuntu09:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:12
athenaSchuenemann, you FAIL. Pastebin your sources.list09:12
devnull!medibuntu09:12
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org09:12
aleksanteri!medibuntu09:12
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Schuenemannathena, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27053/09:12
devnulllol such a dumb way09:13
devnullecho "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list09:13
devnullwhy not just : sudo echo "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list09:13
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SchuenemannI think that command erased my last line09:13
athenaSchuenemann, ... you need a blank line between entries.... look at your lsat one09:13
azzcoErr I've got no sound from kde notifications :S help?09:13
athenaor, rather, you need a newline09:14
codemonkebrb, need to turn on my router09:14
Schuenemannathena, that command messed it... sgh09:14
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azzcoI've got sound from amarok but not from kopete notifications, test sound in sound system doesn't work either09:14
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Schuenemannathena, what is the correct?09:15
SchuenemannI mean, when does the 1st line end?09:15
athenaSchuenemann, after msic/09:16
athenamisc*09:16
Schuenemannk09:16
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athenadeb http://packages.medibuntu.org edgy free non-free should be on its own line09:16
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noobuntucan sum1 suggest an ftp client?09:17
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aleksanterifilezilla09:17
SchuenemannI get that error of non-verified signature09:17
SchuenemannI can ignore that, right?09:17
azzcoThere's a kde ftp progra... but you can allways use konqueror instead09:18
XVampireX!nvidia09:18
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:18
vbgunzhow do I get every openoffice app to show up in my menu? do I need to install anything?09:18
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noobuntudoesnt look like the konqueror allows cue's09:18
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XVampireXHow do I get 8800 GTX working?09:18
Schuenemannathena, so, which package do I need?09:18
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athenaSchuenemann, I lost track of the original question. I think it's w32codecs if you're the one asking about wma.09:19
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SayersHow hard would it be to stream music through kubunutu?09:19
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athenanot very...09:19
Miluxhello! i can't see correctly the ...letters with kvirc. I tried UTF-8 and ISO 8859-1. What i do?09:19
azzcoKDE sound system doesn't work with alsa? o.O09:19
Schuenemannthat's it, thanks09:19
Schuenemanninstalling09:19
Sayersathena: is there a guide ?09:19
aleksanteriazzco: for me it doesn't, worked a while ago (few days that is ^^) then all went mute for some reason09:20
SchuenemannMilux, kvirc sucks09:20
athenaSayers, uh... not that I know, but you need the ice server if you wanna try09:20
aleksanteriSchuenemann: you suck then :P09:20
Sayers:(09:20
azzcoWeird now it works... hasn't been working for about a month :o09:20
Schuenemannme? =] 09:20
MiluxSchuenemann: what's the best?09:20
aleksanterikvirc doesn't suck =)09:21
SchuenemannMilux, I prefer konversation09:21
Schuenemannaleksanteri, that it must have changed slightly09:21
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Miluxi tried konversantion.. i don't like it09:21
aleksanteriwhat version of kvirc you tried by then?09:21
Miluxaleksanteri: you use kvirc?09:21
athenaSayers, try installing icecast-server - it's a shoutcast compatible server, but I have no idea how to use it09:21
aleksanteriMilux: yepperz09:21
Miluxaleksanteri: 3.2.4 on ubuntu 7.0409:22
Schuenemannaleksanteri, long ago (red hat 7 I think), but it was totally horrible09:22
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aleksanterilol it's improved a lot :P09:22
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Schuenemanndoes it look like mirc? I wanted one like it09:22
athenalol @ mirc...09:22
aleksanterilol...09:22
Schuenemanncome on, mirc is good09:22
narcispysup everyone09:22
LinracoonDoes anyone know if is possible to put working a USB wireless adapter?09:23
narcispysure its possible09:23
narcispyits based on the chipset09:23
athenaLinracoon, very unlikely, but a couple work.09:23
athenaI recommend buying a real wifi card...09:23
Miluxkvirc is not bad, but i can't solve this problem09:23
aleksanterioh the problem09:23
narcispydoes anyone have ubuntu with an ati x series card and can help me getting mine working properly09:24
aleksanterii use utf-8 and it works09:24
athenanarcispy, I do, but mine is an X300SE so it probably doesn't count.09:24
Miluxaleksanteri: version?09:24
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SchuenemannMilux, you can't see this --> o sapo no lava o p09:24
aleksanteri3.2.4 on ubuntu 6.0609:24
Schuenemann?09:24
MiluxSchuenemann: no09:24
narcispyit might... are you using flgrx drivers athena?09:24
Milux:-(09:24
aleksanteriSchuenemann: that one i can't see09:24
athenanope, I used to though, what do you need?09:24
Schuenemannweird09:24
narcispyi have a problem getting it working properly, like 3d effects dont work at all09:25
SchuenemannI'm using ISO-8859-109:25
aleksanteriMilux: try ISO-8859-409:25
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athenanarcispy, .....did you remember to disable composite?09:25
Miluxaleksanteri: ...4?09:25
narcispydisable composite where09:25
aleksanteriya09:25
narcispyxorg?09:25
Miluxaleksanteri: ok09:25
athenaand does the driver itself work? or are you having problems setting it up?09:25
aleksanterialways use it as a fallback if they don't work :P09:25
athenanarcispy, xorg.conf09:25
Schuenemannathena, I still can't play wma09:26
narcispyum i have been though it a few times with 3 different distros getting it to work and it still won't, i have played around with xorg all day and driver install and still no luck09:26
Miluxaleksanteri: i can try now09:26
athenaSchuenemann, after installing w32codecs? what media player are you using?09:26
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Schuenemannamarok09:26
Linracoonathena: can you be more specific?09:26
Schuenemannit doesn't echo any error, just tries to play and stops at the same time09:26
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athenaLinracoon, about what?09:27
MiluxSchuenemann: write some letters ...09:27
Schuenemannbut I can watch and hear wma in kaffeine09:27
SchuenemannMilux, you can't see this --> o sapo no lava o p09:27
athenaSchuenemann, uh huh.... weird....09:27
Miluxpuh09:27
Miluxno09:27
Schuenemanndon't you have to reconnect Milux ?09:27
athenano idea what to say, guess your amarok is broken09:27
aleksanterii can see it now09:27
MiluxSchuenemann: i don't know09:27
aleksanterino you don't have to reconnect09:27
narcispymy xorg says im using the "ati" driver09:27
athenawma kinda sucks you know... you sure you don't have a master source or something you could rip to Vorbis or MPEG-4 AAC?09:28
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Miluxi try reconnect09:28
athenanarcispy, uh huh.... so you don't even have the proprietary drivers installed...09:28
athenathis is gonna take a lot of work...................09:28
narcispyi do but it doesnt recognize them09:28
Schuenemannathena, I know it sucks... but I might need it09:28
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narcispyif i switch to fglrx my screen is blank after grub09:28
SchuenemannI don't want to convert them everytime I get them09:28
athenaSchuenemann, I guess amarok just can't play them then? sorry, it's beyond me09:28
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athenanarcispy, please join #anon32 , this is gonna take a looong looong time09:29
Miluxhere i'm09:29
narcispyk09:29
SchuenemannI have played them in amarok before09:29
SchuenemannI don't remember if I was using dapper or edgy, though09:29
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lord_earthshiphow can i save my nick????09:31
Schuenemannathena, remove and install amarok seems a reasonable attempt09:31
Schuenemannthat was a question09:31
aleksanterilord_earthship: /msg nickserv help09:31
athenaSchuenemann, you can go for it if you want09:31
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omidwhat is up09:32
SchuenemannMilux, is it working now?09:33
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MiluxSchuenemann: i'm testing now09:33
Schuenemannsof caf mo09:33
Miluxok09:34
Miluxit's righ09:34
MiluxSchuenemann: mas vc fala portugues?09:34
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Schuenemannim09:35
Schuenemannsim*09:35
Miluxso i09:35
Milux:-)09:36
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aleksanteri:)09:36
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