[12:15] <bob_> salut
[12:15] <bob_> hello
[12:15] <bob_> somebody online?
[12:16] <PsiKloPx> just a noob lookin' for a little help
[12:16] <PsiKloPx> apparently
[12:16] <eriefisher> we are here
[12:16] <bob_> he does anyone help me with a Makefile pb????
[12:16] <bob_> can
[12:17] <eriefisher> not my thing but ask away
[12:21] <jhutchins> bob_: Post a clear summary of your problem.  If someone who knows somethig about it drifts by, they'll answer.
[12:22] <jhutchins> bob_: This time of day is a bit hit-or-miss.
[12:22] <bob_> yeah
[12:22] <bob_> i d like to use a folder to generate my .o files
[12:22] <bob_> but i m missing something the makefile
[12:24] <dale> I have a mute key in my keyboard that somehow executes a 'mute' function on kmix but it does not work.
[12:24] <jhutchins> Might be something over at http://tldp.org
[12:24] <dale> known bug?
[12:24] <noloved> SuperKaramba is a mess, is unified like O$$$ X, for instance I can't move LiquidWheather
[12:24] <jhutchins> dale: If it doesn't work, how do you know it's executing a mute function for kmix?
[12:25] <dale> It coems up on the screen "mute on/off" but it does not actualy mute.
[12:26] <dale> any ideas?
[12:26] <noloved> I think I screw a screw somewhere
[12:26] <noloved> is OK to do this? sudo chown -R user /media/MyFolder
[12:28] <noloved> my psp     no longer is mounting yet it mount in XP
[12:28] <dale> driver problem maybe?
[12:29] <noloved> [11985.685330]  end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 0
[12:29] <noloved> [12370.287887]  usb 4-6: USB disconnect, address 13
[12:29] <noloved> [25947.950680]  VMBlock warning: DentryOpRevalidate: invalid args from kernel
[12:29] <DaSkreech> noloved: Why don't you just mount it with rights?
[12:29] <noloved> basically
[12:30] <noloved> should it be the damn thing autoamtically mount?
[12:31] <BluesKaj> dale, perhaps your xorg.conf file KB settings aren't quite right ...i'd try in the KB sys settings first tho
[12:35] <dale> sorry i dont understand.
[12:36] <noloved> where's customer service? Kubuntu is not mounting my flash
[12:36] <DaSkreech> noloved: What is it doing with it?
[12:36] <noloved> this
[12:36] <noloved> [11985.685330]  end_request: I/O error, dev sr1, sector 0
[12:36] <noloved> [12370.287887]  usb 4-6: USB disconnect, address 13
[12:36] <noloved> [25947.950680]  VMBlock warning: DentryOpRevalidate: invalid args from kernel
[12:37] <noloved> ^^^ that and with TWO computers
[12:37] <DaSkreech> Looks like something is up with the device
[12:38] <noloved> DaSkreech: but it mounts ok in m$$$ and I've tried with two different flash cards both fail misserably in Kubuntu
[12:38] <noloved> there's no more disgraceful Kubuntu failure than this
[12:39] <DaSkreech> noloved: what happens if you mount them manually
[12:39] <noloved> I don't think /dev/flahswhatever is even showing up
[12:39] <DaSkreech> noloved: actaully I think not booting  but trying to do so overloading the power supply and starting a fire which burns down the neighbourhood might be more disgraceful
[12:39] <noloved> but let me check
[12:39] <DaSkreech> noloved: do you know what /dev/flashwhatever should be ? :)
[12:40] <noloved> DaSkreech: dmesg will spit it out for me
[12:40] <banksey> Hey guys, What the differnce between Ubuntu and Kubuntu, If any :/
[12:40] <DaSkreech> !kubuntu
[12:40] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[12:41] <noloved> DaSkreech: can't mount it because of this "[23549.464944]  usb 4-1: USB disconnect, address 14
[12:41] <noloved> oh man
[12:41] <noloved> what happened?
[12:42] <DaSkreech> USB 2.0?
[12:42] <noloved> is something wrong in the kernel ?? look at this awfully ugly message "[25947.950680]  VMBlock warning: DentryOpRevalidate: invalid args from kernel"
[12:42] <banksey> !KDE
[12:42] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[12:43] <DaSkreech> :-)
[12:43] <noloved> am about to curse
[12:43] <DaSkreech> noloved: it need rogue? :)
[12:43] <noloved> like sailor
[12:43] <DaSkreech> noloved: have you tried to do a search for the error?
[12:43] <noloved> rogue what
[12:43] <DaSkreech> mascara
[12:43] <noloved> YES, in here
[12:44] <DaSkreech> noloved: is it a USB 2 device?
[12:44] <noloved> yes
[12:45] <DaSkreech> is it a USB 2.0 chipset?
[12:46] <noloved> DaSkreech: MY BAD. I was plugging the cable on another computer without power and without monitor.
[12:46] <noloved> now is ok
[12:46] <DaSkreech> that's what I thought :)
[12:47] <DaSkreech> noloved: if you would still like to curse at the problem like a sailor please go ahead
[12:47] <noloved> by the way I don't  agree the way Kubuntu deletes stuff in flash, it seems that is using shred with 45 passes
[12:47] <noloved> can't it just clipped it off the filesystem?
[12:47] <noloved> I don't need a massive overwrite
[12:47] <DaSkreech> noloved: fairly certain that's not by default something you turned on somewhere
[12:49] <noloved> I still get this guly error though "[28605.337506]  VMBlock warning: DentryOpRevalidate: invalid args from kernel"
[12:58] <vit_> hola
[12:59] <draik> How do I play SWF files/ GNASH makes it play like a chipmunk on crack
[12:59] <DaSkreech> noloved: Not sure. the only other place I see that turning up is on nvidia's site
[01:00] <DaSkreech> !flash
[01:00] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:00] <vit_> hola
[01:00] <DaSkreech> vit_: hi
[01:00] <noloved> ok
[01:00] <noloved> it
[01:00] <noloved> it's fine
[01:00] <vit_> how are you
[01:00] <devnull> heh 64bit didn't like me much
[01:00] <noloved> anyway I just finishing mad programs I don't know what else to do
[01:00] <noloved> I am bored now
[01:01] <DaSkreech> start sane ones?
[01:01] <dale> Does anyone know any superKaramba docks that have kopete, amarok etc icons?
[01:01] <DaSkreech> geila: ok and you?
[01:01] <Sayers> PriceChild: Hi
[01:01] <dale> anyone?
[01:02] <noloved> oh I know, what a GUI user-friendly FireWall and AntiVirus?
[01:02] <DaSkreech> !firewall
[01:02] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:02] <DaSkreech> !virus
[01:02] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[01:03] <geila> ALGUIEN Q HABLE ESPAOL
[01:03] <noloved> DaSkreech: just for feel good
[01:03] <noloved> geila: calla mierda
[01:03] <DaSkreech> !es | geila
[01:03] <ubotu> geila: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:04] <geila> MAS MIERDA SERAS TU
[01:04] <noloved> tu madre guarra
[01:07] <noloved> what about a FireWall?
[01:07] <DaSkreech> !firewall
[01:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[01:07] <draik> I have KDE/GNOME/XFCE all under one roof (namely my computer). How do I select a default app per desktop environment. I don't want the choice to be system-wide, just environment-wide.
[01:07] <DaSkreech> !default
[01:07] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[01:08] <DaSkreech> No idea in XFCE
[01:08] <draik> Thank you DaSkreech
[01:09] <noloved> DaSkreech: what else could I download for Kubuntu?
[01:11] <draik> What's the best app for playing SWF (flash) files?
[01:12] <devnull> <3 kubuntu compared to suse
[01:12] <DaSkreech> noloved: what do you do?
[01:12] <DaSkreech> draik: a web browser
[01:12] <noloved> DaSkreech: got three
[01:12] <noloved> oh
[01:12] <noloved> DaSkreech: nothing really productive
[01:12] <noloved> is for other ppl this
[01:12] <DaSkreech> noloved: then wesnoth
[01:13] <noloved> they are not players
[01:13] <DaSkreech> noloved: what are they?
[01:14] <noloved> desktop users, chat browse, aol and so
[01:14] <noloved> music
[01:14] <noloved> videos
[01:14] <draik> DaSkreech: Even if I have it downloaded on my desktop?
[01:14] <Arwen> anyone here have experience with gpg? I need help
[01:14] <DaSkreech> noloved: You dropped on thecodec already
[01:14] <noloved> DaSkreech: what's that?
[01:15] <DaSkreech> !codecs
[01:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:15] <noloved> DaSkreech: yeah I think I've got most of it covered if not all. At least all I've been able to see no those threads
[01:15] <draik> DaSkreech: Do you think I have a codec issue as well? I can't seem to play the SWF file with GNASH
[01:16] <DaSkreech> draik: no. You have GNASh  it tries to emultate a flash that's at least 2 versions old and I'm assuming it doesn't have all of those covered as well
[01:16] <noloved> !acc
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <draik> DaSkreech: Recommended solution?
[01:17] <noloved> what's the codec in charge of AAC
[01:17] <noloved> !aac
[01:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:17] <Arwen> noloved, faad
[01:17] <DaSkreech> draik: read ! flash
[01:17] <Arwen> but which package you need depends on the player
[01:17] <draik> !flash
[01:17] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:18] <Linux_Galore> or just use kubxtra and it will install all that stuff for you from a graphical interface  www.kde-apps.org
[01:19] <noloved> Arwen: wow, I was missing that one!!!
[01:19] <noloved> strange I let that pass by
[01:20] <soulrider_> !lamp
[01:20] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:20] <Linux_Galore> !kubxtra
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubxtra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <Arwen> noloved, ....FAIL
[01:20] <Linux_Galore> still not in the repo
[01:20] <Arwen> installing faad won't help with anything
[01:20] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: install  xine-extracodecs
[01:21] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, don't tell me what to install, geez
[01:21] <noloved> Arwen:  ohh I filed :-) lol
[01:21] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: kgpg  life is too short
[01:21] <noloved> E: Couldn't find package xine-extracodecs
[01:22] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, that doesn't help because I actually *need* to figure out gpg
[01:22] <noloved> there's no program more loathing than Real Player, is it possible to play Real's files with an open source program?
[01:22] <Arwen> noloved, it's called 'libxine1-ffmpeg'
[01:23] <draik> !gnash
[01:23] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[01:23] <Arwen> and to play crappy formats like Real and WMA, you need w32codecs
[01:23] <DaSkreech> noloved: it's libxine
[01:23] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: the GNU guys have a trainer running around thats how I learnt it
[01:23] <noloved> ok got 'em all then
[01:23] <DaSkreech> Arwen: What nonesense?
[01:23] <Arwen> DaSkreech, gpg nonsense
[01:23] <noloved> this chapter is over
[01:23] <Arwen> I can't make heads or tails over it
[01:24] <DaSkreech> Arwen: why do you need to?
[01:24] <Arwen> make a keyring apparently
[01:24] <Arwen> gpgv keeps complaining about not having a 'trustedkeys.gpg'
[01:24] <DaSkreech> noloved: libxine-extracodecs
[01:24] <DaSkreech> noloved: you can install helix
[01:24] <noloved> libxine-extracodecs is already the newest version.
[01:24] <Linux_Galore> the package is actually called libxine-extracodecs sorry
[01:24] <DaSkreech> Arwen: right make a  key ring
[01:25] <noloved> !antivirus
[01:25] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[01:25] <DaSkreech> !virus
[01:25] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[01:25] <noloved> is ClamAV the KDE version? I thought there was something like KlamAV
[01:25] <DaSkreech> hi dale
[01:25] <noloved> I already read that
[01:25] <Linux_Galore> noloved: you may have to compile  ffmpeg and enable some things
[01:25] <DaSkreech> noloved: no it's command line
[01:25] <Arwen> clamav is command line software...
[01:25] <dale> Hello Daskreech.
[01:25] <Arwen> !medibuntu
[01:25] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:26] <Arwen> kthx
[01:26] <noloved> Linux_Galore: like what?
[01:26] <dale> Does anyone know any dock apps? except kooldock?
[01:26] <noloved> Linux_Galore: why would I have to compile? For I might as well install Gentoo
[01:26] <DaSkreech> noloved: ha ha :) right
[01:26] <Linux_Galore> noloved:  because its covered by a commercial license
[01:27] <noloved> Helix is O_open source??
[01:28] <DaSkreech> noloved: yes
[01:28] <DaSkreech> made by Real
[01:28] <Linux_Galore> or you can dig around the deb repo's and find a not so legal version
[01:28] <noloved> w00t
[01:28] <DaSkreech> trying to fight the Microsoft onslaught
[01:28] <noloved> so is not breach of treason to install it?
[01:28] <DaSkreech> !info helix-player
[01:28] <ubotu> helix-player: the helix audio and video player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-3 (feisty), package size 3966 kB, installed size 10184 kB (Only available for i386 powerpc sparc)
[01:29] <noloved> would  you guys install it?
[01:29] <noloved> is it open source?
[01:29] <Linux_Galore> Helix is open source
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> Real isnt though
[01:30] <doc_> hi
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> I dont use helix
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> or real so its not an issue for me
[01:31] <Linux_Galore> noloved: just compile ffmpeg (its very simple and there are howto's) and life becomes simple again
[01:32] <DaSkreech> noloved: the main difference between helix and the realplayer is that the realplayer can do DRM and RVMB
[01:32] <DaSkreech> or what ever real9 is called
[01:32] <TheNetuser> # Appears as ANNA
[01:32] <TheNetuser> (#G7::E@10M1) Hi!
[01:32] <TheNetuser> (#G1<:E114M1) I'm TheNetuser! :)
[01:32] <TheNetuser> (#G56:E566RM1) <Chr>
[01:33] <noloved> Linux_Galore: what does compiled ffmpeg enable?
[01:33] <TheNetuser> (#G610E;10M1) Anyone here using WINE on Ubuntu?
[01:33] <Linux_Galore> noloved: it allows you to transcode and play just about anything
[01:33] <noloved> including DRM and RVMB?
[01:33] <noloved> and BBC streams?
[01:34] <Linux_Galore> noloved: I havent used anything with DRM on it yet
[01:34] <noloved> Linux_Galore: is there a repo with ffmpeg compiled?
[01:34] <Linux_Galore> noloved: should be, easier just to compile it then spend 1/2 hour finding a debian repo
[01:34] <TheNetuser> (#G1<:E=10M1) I have a question!
[01:34] <DaSkreech> noloved: I think that kmplayer can do BBC streams
[01:34] <Linux_Galore> than*
[01:35] <Arwen> noloved, medibuntu, I already told you!
[01:35] <Arwen> !medibuntu | noloved
[01:35] <ubotu> noloved: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:35] <Arwen> god
[01:35] <Linux_Galore> aah
[01:35] <noloved> I've got everything under the sun from medibuntu
[01:35] <Arwen> then you should have ffmpeg
[01:35] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: I have tried mediabuntu and ffmpeg is still crippled
[01:35] <TheNetuser> (#G210E@10M1) Can I ask my question yet?
[01:35] <Arwen> Linux_Galore, in what way?
[01:35] <TheNetuser> (#G610EA10M1) <Chr>
[01:36] <TheNetuser> (#G:4:E74:RM1) <Chr>
[01:36] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: it doesnt transcode
[01:36] <Linux_Galore> Arwen: to many $$ formats
[01:36] <Arwen> eh? I use mencoder so I don't notice :-\
[01:36] <TheNetuser> (#G1<:E;10M1) I have a question about KDE in WINE!
[01:36] <Arwen> TRANSCODING IS STUPID
[01:36] <Arwen> ^^ - nuff said
[01:37] <Arwen> TheNetuser, you can't run KDE in WINE
[01:37] <Arwen> nuff said
[01:37] <TheNetuser> (#G210E=10RM1) ?
[01:37] <TheNetuser> (#G210E=10RM1) I am right now!
[01:37] <noloved> what's best Skype Static or Skype normal?
[01:38] <dale> Whats the differance?
[01:38] <TheNetuser> (#G210E=10RM1) I will flood if no one answers my question!
[01:38] <noloved> don't knwo why the make two then
[01:38] <TheNetuser> (#G210E=10RM1) I can copy and paste from Slashdot GNAA posts!
[01:38] <stdin> !ops
[01:38] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[01:38] <Linux_Galore> I would have thought skype is skype
[01:39] <noloved> TheNetuser: do you know what GNAA is?
[01:39] <TheNetuser> (#G210E=10RM1) !ops
[01:39] <TheNetuser> (#G210E=10RM1) Yes.
[01:39] <TheNetuser> (#G210E=10RM1) I post GNAA as First Post on Slashdot.
[01:39] <dale> ?
[01:39] <TheNetuser> (#G210E=10RM1) No!
[01:39] <noloved> rofl
[01:39] <Nonet> LOL
[01:39] <DaSkreech> What the heck was that about?
[01:39] <Nonet> Idiot.
[01:40] <stdin> that was quick :)
[01:40] <DaSkreech> he's been doing that in ##linux for the past 30 minutes
[01:40] <noloved> radom talk
[01:40] <noloved> some ppl must be really really bored
[01:40] <Nonet> You have been trolled by the LamenessTroll, by the way.
[01:41] <ladob> boa noite!
[01:41] <Nonet> (Not that I am affiliated with him or anything.)
[01:41] <ladob> good night!
[01:44] <DaSkreech> stdin: since they just banned on IP address
[01:46] <stdin> DaSkreech: the ban was on Anonymou@*.pivot.net not the whole address
[01:48] <Nonet> I don't have the same IP!
[01:49] <Nonet> My IP is 10.0.0.13
[01:49] <stdin> external IP
[01:49] <stdin> [00:32]  --> Nonet has joined this channel (n=Larl@dsl-t5-66-243-207-7.pivot.net).
[01:49] <stdin> [00:32]  --> TheNetuser has joined this channel (n=Anonymou@dsl-t5-66-243-207-7.pivot.net).
[01:49] <Nonet> He must be hacking me.
[01:50] <billytwowilly> Hi, anyone have idea on how to bind a key to a shortcut if when I press the key it shows up in xev, but when I select it         in short cuts for kaffeine it won't select?
[01:51] <devnull> Is there a certain way to install gnome properly? Or do I just install the packages?
[01:51] <stdin> devnull: install ubuntu-desktop
[01:51] <devnull> stdin: awesome, ty ^_^
[01:51] <stdin> np
[01:52] <Schuenemann> heh
[01:52] <devnull> I kinda like to flip around between kde and gnome
[01:52] <devnull> Plus ubuntu's gnome implentation is the best out there
[01:54] <semistud2354> hey im looking to run a virtual machine
[01:54] <zipper> vmware?
[01:54] <DaSkreech> !vm
[01:54] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[01:54] <semistud2354> is there any way i can run 64 bit windows
[01:54] <semistud2354> on my 32 bit feisty
[01:54] <devnull> Nope
[01:55] <DaSkreech> sure
[01:55] <semistud2354> lol
[01:55] <zipper> devnull, even with vmware?
[01:55] <semistud2354> so yea or no
[01:55] <DaSkreech> it's a pain but yeah you can do it
[01:55] <devnull> afaik you can't do it very easily
[01:55] <intelikey> any draw back to not having an fstab ?
[01:55] <DaSkreech> devnull: that's not the same as not being able to do it
[01:56] <semistud2354> can virtual box do it
[01:56] <zipper> intelikey, you mean besides having to mount everything yourself? Dunno if linux will even boot without "/" set
[01:56] <stdin> intelikey: only that things like /home /var /usr etc won't be automounted (if they are on separate partitions)
[01:57] <intelikey> zipper i don't have fstab so i "guess" linux boots ok without it...
[01:57] <stdin> zipper: it will, root is set at boot, vmlinuz root=/dev/whatever
[01:57] <zipper> intelikey, what do you mean, dont have? Have you removed /etc/fstab ?
[01:58] <zipper> ah
[01:58] <intelikey> zipper yeah
[01:58] <zipper> why?
[01:58] <intelikey> why not ?
[01:58] <zipper> lol
[01:58] <intelikey> ^5
[02:00] <intelikey> ok i can testify of one draw back  at 'halt/reboot' time mount looks for fstab or mtab to know how to remount,ro /   if your mtab is a symlink to /proc/mounts  it causes problems because umount -a will umount proc and thus mount doesn't know what to do with /
[02:02] <intelikey> i can easily compensate for that im my runtime configuration
[02:02] <Kprofthreat> Hey, what would happen if someone were to accidentally..um..delete their root partition?
[02:02] <intelikey> and,  most people don't have /etc/mtab as a symlink anyway.
[02:02] <stdin> then they'd be screwed
[02:03] <intelikey> Kprofthreat they would have to reload.
[02:03] <Kprofthreat> Goddamnit
[02:03] <intelikey> not a big deal really,   i used to reload twice a week whether i needed to or not...
[02:04] <DaSkreech> *coughcough* Windows lover 8coughcoughcoughc*
[02:05] <stdin> intelikey: I got my tinyurl script to let me give a message a swell as URL and nick, can you give the code a look over? see if there's anything I could do better? http://stdin.pastebin.us/37630
[02:06] <intelikey> stdin sure
[02:07] <hilz> hi all! I installed x11vnc server on kubuntu 7.04. i am trying to get it to start when i boot the system, so i put the command to launch it in /etc/rc.local but it doesn't seem to work. any idea what could be wrong?
[02:09] <stdin> hilz: because you aren't running a session at boot
[02:09] <hilz> stdin: so where is the right place to start the x11vnc server?
[02:10] <stdin> hilz: you need to be logged (to an X session) in to use it, so in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[02:10] <stdin> *logged in
[02:11] <hilz> stdin: oh...that's sad!  so if i was not at home for example, and the power was lost and restored, i won't be able start the vnc server then! right?
[02:12] <draik> How do I continue/resume an interrupted apt-get upgrade?
[02:12] <stdin> hilz: yeah, but there are other vnc servers that don't use the currently running X server
[02:12] <stdin> !vnc
[02:12] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:13] <stdin> draik: just run the command again, it should resume from where it left off
[02:13] <hilz> stdin: i tried many ones, and this was the only one that really works
[02:13] <hilz> stdin: some of the crash right when i connect
[02:13] <hilz> stdin: and some doen't even work
[02:13] <soulrider_> !gutsy
[02:13] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[02:14] <stdin> hilz: look at the howto link ubotu posted, that should help (I don't use vnc so I can't really help)
[02:14] <hilz> ok thanks guys
[02:15] <draik> stdin: http://pastebin.ca/586734
[02:16] <stdin> draik: post it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ I get a slow connection to pastebin.ca
[02:17] <draik> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26951/
[02:18] <stdin> draik: "You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these." that may be a hint
[02:18] <draik> I did
[02:18] <draik> it's in there
[02:18] <intelikey> stdin   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37631    looks good,  i made one sujestion you might look at.
[02:19] <draik> stdin: Line 20
[02:19] <devnull> Anyone have any idea how to get the "recently used programs" in the kde menu?
[02:20] <stdin> draik: hmm, try "dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.4_i386.deb" maybe
[02:20] <stdin> intelikey: the ease of reading was on my to-do list, so you saved me some time :)
[02:21] <draik> stdin: That did it.
[02:21] <stdin> intelikey: and there are always 4 or more arguments given in konversation
[02:21] <intelikey> draik looks like you have a broken package.   i sujest you rm /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.*   and try again.
[02:22] <intelikey> stdin ok i just thought a test would be a safty net
[02:22] <draik> stdin: I also keep getting  may CP:Cannot Stat /location/./././././: No such file or directory
[02:22] <draik> stdin: It's finishing up the upgrade right now. I will do that after.
[02:22] <stdin> intelikey: in any script it's "konversation ServerName Channel (anything the user supplies after)"
[02:22] <draik> intelikey: Hello. How's it been?
[02:23] <draik> Do I want the new KDMRC or stay with default?
[02:23] <intelikey> draik well.    your copy of  /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.4_i386.deb  seems to be bad   re-get it and try.
[02:24] <intelikey> stdin ok.   but that is a .sh  and someone might try it elsewhere,  i still think a test wouldn't hurt.   but it's your baby.
[02:24] <DaSkreech> Soooo
[02:25] <DaSkreech> anyone recommends kubuntu for a 500 Mhz laptop with 250 megs of RAM
[02:25] <intelikey> DaSkreech hardware described exceeds what i'm running
[02:26] <stdin> intelikey: it doesn't have the .sh extention and it's pretty clear that it's a konversation script, but hey-ho, it'd only be a one-liner
[02:26] <DaSkreech> intelikey: For luddi type users
[02:27] <intelikey> [ "${#@}" -lt "4" ]  && exit 1
[02:27] <intelikey> DaSkreech is that another term for the "pointy clicky thingy, users" ?
[02:28] <DaSkreech> intelikey: very much so
[02:28] <intelikey> DaSkreech it still works as well or maybe a little weller than that M$ stuff on the same hardware.
[02:28] <stdin> intelikey: thinking about it, it will error out if there is not URL (on $4+), the only difference it that it sends the error to konversation via dcop :p
[02:29] <intelikey> DaSkreech just keep the eyecandy to a lower limit and it's fine
[02:29] <stdin> intelikey: line 37 (on your version)
[02:30] <stdin> and 42
[02:30] <stdin> (tho the usage info is wrong now, so ignore that)
[02:31] <intelikey> stdin actually no.  it runs both the if * fi tests either way without that test   but like i said it looks ok as is.    and you pointed out that it's inteneded target will always supply the input      sooooooo
[02:33] <stdin> anywho, i class it as a beta right now, but it works ok
[02:33] <draik> intelikey: Well, I did as you said.
[02:34] <stdin>  intelikey: so now I can give a description of the link along with the tiny URL http://tinyurl.com/3dkpev
[02:34] <stdin> (http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37631)
[02:34] <draik> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26954/
[02:37] <waylandbill> where's the party? certainly there must be an install party going on somewhere!
[02:37] <intelikey> draik  "pre-installation script returned error exit status 2  on package /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx* "  you need to see why   /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-glx.preinst  is erroring
[02:38] <intelikey> draik it could be as benine as another package not installed/configured yet or as insidious as bashism with a #!/bin/sh call
[02:39] <waylandbill> certainly the error is logged
[02:40] <intelikey> draik console or terminal  sudo  /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-glx.preinst     for the output
[02:41] <intelikey> waylandbill   Q. "what do linux users do?"          A. "they install software."      :)
[02:42] <waylandbill> intelikey: of course. why else would we have apt or yast or rpm?
[02:42] <intelikey> !botsnack
[02:42] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:42] <waylandbill> or yum. :-D
[02:42] <intelikey> really   urpmi is my favorite
[02:43] <stdin> !opsnack | i like
[02:43] <ubotu> i like: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[02:43] <stdin> hehe
[02:43] <waylandbill> I'm in love with aptitude and my wife hates the fact!
[02:44] <waylandbill> (not that she knows what it is)
[02:44] <intelikey> aptitude as a command line tool is nice.  but as an ncurses application,,,   uuuh
[02:44] <waylandbill> yes. the gui is ... strange
[02:44] <intelikey> does that qualify as a GUI ?
[02:45] <waylandbill> yup
[02:45] <stdin> yeah, I think so
[02:45] <intelikey> GTI = glorified text interface
[02:46] <intelikey> or are you guys seeing something in terminal that i'm not seeing in console ?
[02:46] <waylandbill> programming a decade or so ago, you'd of thought it awesome. :-)
[02:47] <intelikey> maybe.  but i'd still have use the command line rather than the ncurses view
[02:47] <TrueFX> 
[02:48] <intelikey> that's not TrueFX
[02:48] <intelikey> :)
[02:50] <intelikey> !tr
[02:50] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[02:50] <devnull> installing the ubuntu-desktop-environment package. Does that also add the session to the kdm sessions list?
[02:51] <intelikey> devnull yeh
[02:51] <devnull> intelikey: ty ty
[02:51] <anandanbu> How do i install SuperKaramba in Kubuntu 7.04
[02:51] <banksey> Hey guys, Anyone know a command to update WINE, Mines outa date and adept only has the one version, Any help would much be apprciated :)
[02:51] <DaSkreech> !wine
[02:51] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:52] <DaSkreech> banksey: Plus winehq has an ubunturepo
[02:52] <Tombar_uy> any good guide/tutorial to install bery under ati and kubuntu you know guys?
[02:52] <devnull> !ati
[02:52] <banana21> Hi, I have a question. I just installed kubuntu in a dual boot setup with windows XP and am getting a blue screen "unbootable volume" error. Anybody want to help me?
[02:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:52] <stdin> \
[02:52] <DaSkreech> !beryl
[02:52] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:52] <Tombar_uy> thanks bot xD
[02:52] <intelikey> DaSkreech the guy with the samba issue last night   never did ask anything else.   i don't know if he got it going or no...
[02:52] <devnull> that was for me lol
[02:52] <stdin> anandanbu: isn't it already installed?
[02:53] <DaSkreech> intelikey: oh the missing Network card?
[02:53] <intelikey> yeah
[02:53] <DaSkreech> k
[02:53] <stdin> anandanbu: huh, it isn't by default :p just install the package superkaramba
[02:54] <intelikey> DaSkreech and the fellow you pointed at #ubuntu-effects said they fixed him right up... so that was a good call.
[02:54] <anandanbu> stdin: how do i install that package
[02:55] <DaSkreech> intelikey: normally is
[02:55] <stdin> anandanbu: either by opening adept and choosing the package, or with "sudo apt-get install superkaramba" in konsole
[02:55] <intelikey> anandanbu the package manager comes to mind
[02:55] <anandanbu> stdin : thanks
[02:56] <intelikey> well i have sterelized all my personal scripts,  now if dpkg didn't have to have bash i'd remove it
[02:57] <TrueFX> hi gusy
[02:57] <TrueFX> i ve got a question
[02:57] <anandanbu> stdin : i have some of the icons in Kubuntu not showing up in the KDE menu
[02:57] <TrueFX> can i prevent konversation from pasting text automatically
[02:57] <TrueFX> whenever i paste something here its send automatically
[02:57] <stdin> anandanbu: what icons?
[02:58] <TrueFX> i just want to hit the enter key
[02:58] <intelikey> TrueFX by not copying line ends maybe ?
[02:58] <anandanbu> in the start menu for some of the apps in the 'System' , 'Settings' and 'Utilities'
[02:58] <TrueFX> how?
[02:58] <TrueFX> :)
[02:59] <TrueFX> is there a paste protection in konversation?
[02:59] <intelikey> only highlight to the last char not past it
[02:59] <intelikey> not that i know of
[02:59] <TrueFX> but in every line there are line ends
[02:59] <stdin> TrueFX: there is, it should be on by default
[02:59] <TrueFX> it's not by default
[02:59] <TrueFX> is there an option ?
[02:59] <TrueFX> i couldnt find it
[03:00] <stdin> looking, I've never had to turn it on
[03:00] <intelikey> stdin if you cp/paste a full line with \n it doesn't post ?
[03:00] <stdin> intelikey: no, it shows a warning and even lets you edit it
[03:01] <intelikey> hmmm i knew xchat did that.  but didn't think konvo did....
[03:01] <intelikey> sorry my bad.
[03:01] <TrueFX> in xchat its possible but i dont like its interface
[03:01] <TrueFX> and gnome programs
[03:01] <shane2peru> TrueFX: a cool trick to pasting in Linux is highlight and then with the middle button on the mouse click where you want to paste it and it pastes
[03:02] <intelikey> maybe it just wasn't turned on and i didn't look for it,   "the one time i used konversation"
[03:02] <shane2peru> TrueFX: no copying and pasting, just highlight and middle click where you want the text.
[03:03] <TrueFX> i see
[03:03] <TrueFX> thx shane2peru
[03:03] <TrueFX> :)
[03:03] <TrueFX> that was nice
[03:03] <intelikey> shane2peru i like that even better without "klipper"  it's always whatever is light
[03:03] <stdin> TrueFX: ahh, it's under Notifications in "Warning Dialogues": "Warning on pasting large portions of text"
[03:04] <TrueFX> it's turned on
[03:04] <shane2peru> TrueFX: that is a neat trick another Linux user taught me. :)  Pretty cool, sure beats windows.
[03:04] <TrueFX> that was not what i was searchin for
[03:04] <TrueFX> shane has solved my problem
[03:04] <TrueFX> :)
[03:04] <TrueFX> ok another question
[03:04] <shane2peru>  maybe it just wasn't turned on and i didn't look for it,   "the one time i used konversation" <---  I just pasted this.
[03:04] <TrueFX> can i paste from chm file to here
[03:04] <TrueFX> by coping?
[03:05] <TrueFX> by copy
[03:05] <shane2peru> I'm also using Konversation, new to chat, don't know much about this stuff.
[03:05] <TrueFX> #!/usr/bin/perl
  maybe it just wasn't turned on and i didn't look for it,   "the one time i used konversation" <---  I just pasted this.  <<<[03:05] <TrueFX> use strict;
[03:05] <TrueFX> use warnings;
[03:05] <TrueFX> while(<>){
[03:05] <TrueFX>    if(/\b\[A-Z] .*\b/){
[03:05] <TrueFX>    print;}
[03:05] <TrueFX>    };
[03:05] <TrueFX> that was not what i was trying to paste
[03:06] <shane2peru> intelikey: What? did you use the middle mouse button trick?
[03:06] <TrueFX> intelikey?
[03:06] <intelikey> like i said 'kill klipper'
[03:06] <stdin> TrueFX: if you can select text, you can paste it
[03:06] <TrueFX> what do u mean?
[03:06] <TrueFX> i have selected it
[03:06] <TrueFX> i have copied it
[03:06] <TrueFX> but it pastes the previous copy
[03:06] <anandanbu> How do i install new themes for kubuntu and also the font size in the kubuntu are too big
[03:06] <TrueFX> strange
[03:06] <stdin> TrueFX: middle click after selecting it, no need to select "copy"
[03:06] <intelikey> shane2peru left mouse highlight right mouse paste.   gpm = general purpose mouse   support for the console
[03:07] <stdin> !changethemes | anandanbu
[03:07] <ubotu> anandanbu: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[03:07] <stdin> !themes
[03:07] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:07] <TrueFX> i have right clicked
[03:07] <TrueFX> copy and select all is available
[03:07] <TrueFX> i have copied
[03:07] <TrueFX> now i paste it with ctrl+v
[03:07] <shane2peru> intelikey: so you are not using gui?
[03:07] <TrueFX> #!/usr/bin/perl
[03:07] <TrueFX> use strict;
[03:07] <TrueFX> use warnings;
[03:07] <intelikey> shane2peru no.
[03:07] <shane2peru> intelikey: hey if it works for you, great :)
[03:07] <stdin> shane2peru: intelikey never uses X if he can help it
[03:07] <TrueFX> while(<>){
[03:07] <TrueFX>    if(/\b\[A-Z] .*\b/){
[03:07] <TrueFX>    print;}
[03:07] <TrueFX>    };
[03:07] <TrueFX> wrong paste
[03:07] <TrueFX> again
[03:08] <intelikey> shane2peru it's not even installed
[03:08] <DaSkreech> can  Konqui do Folder Thumbnails?
[03:08] <shane2peru> intelikey: well, then you are more savvy at this than I :)
[03:08] <stdin> TrueFX: there are 2 "clipboards" one for "right-click -> copy" and one for "select and middle-click"
[03:08] <intelikey> ?
[03:10] <intelikey> TrueFX  see the  "klipper" icon in the taskbar  it lets you select what you paste also.  but i find that klipper confuses the normal linux "highlight & middle click" method sometimes.
[03:12] <devnull> Is there a knetworkmanager like application for gnome?
[03:12] <stdin> devnull: think so, tho it's better to ask in #ubuntu
[03:13] <intelikey> yes i've not seen but heard some about it
[03:13] <intelikey> is it 'networkmanager' or 'gnetworkmanager' ???
[03:13] <intelikey> some claim it's better than the kde counterpart
[03:14] <stdin> network-manager-gnome
[03:14] <intelikey> that's it
[03:14] <intelikey> errr is it ?
[03:14] <stdin> maybe :p
[03:14] <intelikey> let me think....
[03:14] <Sayers> Anyone know of any good Multi-Track Music Studios ?
[03:15] <intelikey> i think it's just networkmanager
[03:15] <intelikey> !info networkmanager
[03:15] <ubotu> Package networkmanager does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:15] <intelikey> well maybe not.
[03:15] <stdin> no, that's the base tool (and it's got a '-' in it)
[03:16] <DaSkreech> Sayers: Hmm?
[03:16] <stdin> !info network-manager
[03:16] <ubotu> network-manager: network management framework daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.4-6ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 234 kB, installed size 584 kB
[03:16] <stdin> !info network-manager-gnome
[03:16] <ubotu> network-manager-gnome: network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.4-6ubuntu7 (feisty), package size 253 kB, installed size 1696 kB
[03:16] <intelikey> !networkmanager
[03:16] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[03:16] <rodrigo_> Hellooooo
[03:16] <rodrigo_> every body
[03:17] <rodrigo_> guess what
[03:17] <DaSkreech> clint eastwood is making a Viet cong movie from the perspective of the forest ?
[03:18] <rodrigo_> DaSkreech: something must polemic and awsome
[03:19] <intelikey> hmmm i've used a web browser 158 minutes in seven days now.
[03:19] <[Al] chemist_ex> anyone know a sulution for 64-bit users and compiz-fusion?
[03:21] <draik> intelikey: I did the /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-glx.preinst and got "preinst called with unknown argument `' "
[03:21] <intelikey> try adding install    or   configure
[03:22] <intelikey> or read the script and see which it needs....
[03:22] <intelikey> maybe setup
[03:22] <intelikey> dpkg scripts are  wac  imo
[03:24] <Schuenemann> !irda
[03:24] <ubotu> Information about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto
[03:25] <hollie> i cant open my cd tray
[03:26] <DaSkreech> hollie: type eject in the command line
[03:27] <hollie> it belongs to root
[03:27] <hollie> ive been editing fstab, i made a group for myself, and even user to me
[03:27] <hollie> trying to unmount it, i just want to eject
[03:27] <DaSkreech> sudo eject && sudo makemeasandwich
[03:28] <draik> I've done apt-get autoremove and apt-get autoclean
[03:28] <draik> I do apt-get upgrade and get this error...
[03:28] <hollie> well of course, but i want a GUI user like my gf to be able to eject
[03:29] <draik> http://pastebin.ca/586811
[03:30] <draik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26957/
[03:30] <intelikey> hollie if nothing is using it  eject should work without sudo   "BUT" if something is accessing/reading you can't umount so you can't eject   also if /dev/cdrom doesn't point to the cdrom device you will need to specify the device    eject /dev/sdb    or  eject /dev/hdb   or something like that
[03:30] <draik> Same thing, diff locations.
[03:33] <intelikey> draik post the script i'll see if i can find out whats happening
[03:33] <draik> intelikey: What script?
[03:33] <intelikey>  /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-glx.prerm
[03:33] <ardchoille> draik: Where is it trying to get nvidia from?
[03:33] <intelikey> the one that's erroring out
[03:34] <draik> I gave that to you earlier
[03:34] <draik> intelikey: I did the /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-glx.preinst and got "preinst called with unknown argument `' "
[03:34] <intelikey> draik no.  post the script itself.  the  /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-glx.prerm  one.
[03:35] <draik> intelikey: Sorry. One sec
[03:35] <intelikey> that's the prerm  ^   the other was a preinst
[03:36] <hollie> thanks, take care
[03:36] <draik> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26958/
[03:37] <devnull> Ty for the network manager help ^_^ worked a charm
[03:37] <draik> intelikey: So what does this file do?
[03:40] <intelikey> draik edit that file and the two lines that say  "invoke-rc.d nvidia-glx stop || exit $?"   change  $?   to  0   that's zero.   save   and try your command.
[03:40] <intelikey> it's failing cause nvidia-glx is not already running.
[03:40] <draik> intelikey: Can you do the change on the pastebin for me. I can't understand what you're typing. Sorry.
[03:41] <draik> Change "$?" to "0" or just the "?"
[03:41] <intelikey> make this line >>> invoke-rc.d nvidia-glx stop || exit $? <<<   look like this  >>> invoke-rc.d nvidia-glx stop || exit $? <<<    two of them just alike.  in that file.   /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-glx.prerm
[03:41] <intelikey> ooops
[03:42] <intelikey> make this line >>> invoke-rc.d nvidia-glx stop || exit $? <<<   look like this  >>> invoke-rc.d nvidia-glx stop || exit 0 <<<    two of them just alike.  in that file.   /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia-glx.prerm
[03:42] <intelikey> that  ^
[03:42] <intelikey> sorry about the typo
[03:43] <intelikey> that's one example where dpkg scripts are 'wac'  that will fail if nvidia-glx is installed but not running.
[03:45] <draik> intelikey: Ok, just change it to zero. Got it. Anything else?
[03:46] <intelikey> try your  sudo apt-get upgrade     again
[03:47] <mtv> when i go to printers inside system settings and try to add a printer i get an error.  "Ann error occurred while retrieving the list of available backends: server-error-internal-error" what do i do?
[03:47] <draik> intelikey: Nope. Still got the issue again
[03:47] <draik> Should I  "rm /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx_1%3a1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-16.28_i386.deb"?
[03:47] <intelikey> draik same text or different ?
[03:48] <draik> I believe it's the same. Want a new pastebin?
[03:48] <intelikey> na
[03:48] <draik> intelikey: so should I?
[03:48] <intelikey> sudo dpkg -P --force-all nvidia-glx
[03:49] <intelikey> first step is getting the package manager streightened out,  then you worry about what you want to install.
[03:49] <draik> Hmmm...
[03:50] <draik> intelikey: sent you PM
[03:50] <intelikey> i see it.   anything else
[03:50] <draik> That's it
[03:50] <intelikey> ok try    sudo apt-get install -f
[03:51] <draik> ok
[03:51] <intelikey> no errors ?
[03:51] <draik> 0 upgrade, 0 new install, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[03:51] <intelikey> ok.
[03:51] <draik> no errors
[03:52] <intelikey>   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:52] <draik> Why does medibuntu work then give 404's all over the place.
[03:52] <draik> I can't continue because medibuntu 404'd on me
[03:53] <intelikey> lets see the sources.list
[03:53] <intelikey> that's /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:54] <draik> intelikey: it's all from source-o-matic
[03:54] <draik> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26959/
[03:54] <intelikey> !source-o-matic
[03:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:55] <draik> Right
[03:55] <draik> I used source-o-matic
[03:57] <draik> Anything wrong with my sources, intelikey
[03:57] <intelikey> draik comment out all "deb-src"   lines for now   and try the update again
[03:57] <intelikey> you can add them back later if that helps.
[03:57] <draik> Ok.
[03:58] <intelikey> i don't see anything that should cause issues but it may be a server down and using only whats needed is a good idea anytime.
[03:58] <draik> For some reason, bleeding edge KDE and amaroK don't work
[03:58] <draik> ever
[03:58] <draik> at all
[03:58] <draik> Go fig
[03:58] <intelikey> yeah.   comment   #
[03:59] <draik> No, I did that
[03:59] <intelikey> k
[03:59] <draik> I mean before I added the #, they would fail access
[03:59] <intelikey> yeah i got that.    ready to try        sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:00] <draik> ahead of you.
[04:00] <draik> no errors
[04:00] <intelikey> k then i'll leave you alone and let you do what ever it is that you do.
[04:00] <intelikey> :)
[04:00] <draik> Thank you.
[04:00] <draik> What's the src for?
[04:00] <intelikey> and you're welcome
[04:00] <intelikey> source packages.
[04:01] <draik> I don't want that?
[04:01] <intelikey> if you want the source code of something you have installed.  you get the source package,
[04:01] <draik> Other than that, the regular deb's will do. Is that a correct understanding?
[04:02] <intelikey> but as a general rule most people seldom use deb-src *
[04:02] <intelikey> yes correct
[04:02] <draik> Thank you so much intelikey.
[04:02] <draik> Yet again, you're the best
[04:02] <intelikey> and as i said,   if you need/want them   you can uncomment them later
[04:02] <BluesKaj> intelikey, how does one install VMWare on linux ...I see various versions available ?
[04:02] <iamcO_ol> hi
[04:03] <iamcO_ol> what's the LiveCD password?
[04:03] <iamcO_ol> I am trying to install irssi
[04:03] <iamcO_ol> I hate Krapversation
[04:03] <intelikey> BluesKaj actualy i never have.  kinda silly to try to run vertual machines on a p1 box  no?
[04:03] <intelikey> iamcO_ol there isn't one
[04:04] <intelikey> !sudo | iamcO_ol
[04:04] <ubotu> iamcO_ol: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:04] <intelikey> iamcO_ol need a root shell ?      sudo -i
[04:04] <iamcO_ol> oh ok it did it
[04:04] <iamcO_ol> sudo -i don't work
[04:04] <iamcO_ol> for nothing
[04:04] <BluesKaj> yeah, but my son was asking me and I'm the supposed linux guru in the family ...I din't know what to tell him
[04:04] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get install vmplayer
[04:04] <intelikey> always has for me  but i only go as far as dapper
[04:05] <BluesKaj> not the player nosrednaekim , the full dance card :)
[04:05] <nosrednaekim> tsk tsk..
[04:05] <draik> nosrednaekim: Does your kid watch Avatar: The Last Airbender?
[04:06] <intelikey> BluesKaj as i understand it you install  vmware-player   and it gets the correct kernel package  (maybe)
[04:06] <iamcO_ol> aaaahh, oohhhh, freedom!!
[04:06] <iamcO_ol> ok how do I install Xen?
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: its called bittorrent
[04:06] <iamcO_ol> from scratch?
[04:06] <stdin> BluesKaj: you have to download it and run the install script, you'll probably need to compile the kernel modules too
[04:06] <nosrednaekim> draik: heh, i'm 17...so I guess that would be a no?
[04:06] <draik> nosrednaekim: Whoops. Nevermind.
[04:06] <intelikey> BluesKaj then you add the other half of the system
[04:06] <iamcO_ol> Xen anyone?
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> iamcO_ol: on the liveCD?
[04:07] <intelikey> !xen
[04:07] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[04:07] <stdin> intelikey: the -player modules won't work with the workstation
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> stdin: nope.. they are prepackaged!
[04:07] <iamcO_ol> nosrednaekim: I wanna do a Xen installatoin from start
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> draik: lol
[04:07] <nosrednaekim> stdin: oh.. workstation... NM
[04:08] <intelikey> stdin the kernel module is needed though,  or am i all wet ?
[04:08] <iamcO_ol> anyone/anybody know about Xen?
[04:08] <intelikey> like i said i never did go through with installing that
[04:08] <intelikey> iamcO_ol you ignoring the bot ?
[04:09] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, the download has some, but I don't know if they have the feisty modules, if not then you compile them (from the install script)
[04:09] <BluesKaj> hehe , he has a university approved and distributed version , nosrednaekim
[04:09] <iamcO_ol> intelikey: na I am checking it out
[04:09] <draik> nosrednaekim: Sorry, that question was to go to ardchoille
[04:09] <BluesKaj> BTW I use ktorrent :)
[04:09] <draik> ardchoille: Does your kid watch Avatar: The Last Airbender?
[04:09] <intelikey> stdin ah ok.   well BluesKaj see stdin.  stdin tell BluesKaj
[04:10] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: oh sweet...
[04:10] <stdin> BluesKaj:  the download has some, but I don't know if they have the feisty modules, if not then you compile them (from the install script)
[04:10] <BluesKaj> ok, stdin, thx
[04:10] <stdin> nosrednaekim: and you can use vmware for free without downloading a torrent, you just get a new eval licence from them each month
[04:11] <intelikey> eval  ?
[04:11] <intelikey> :)
[04:11] <stdin> eval(uation)
[04:11] <nosrednaekim> stdin: ah...
[04:11] <intelikey> yeah let me pastebin soething for you... :)
[04:11] <BluesKaj> sonhas some Linux buddies but they're all into mandriva or suse
[04:12] <stdin> tell him to get new buddies then :p
[04:12] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: and you made him use ubuntu...;)
[04:13] <intelikey> stdin  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37633   :)
[04:13] <intelikey> eval
[04:13] <BluesKaj> not yet , that's whay he was asking about it , he doesn't know which VMWare version to use
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: doe he have to be able to create VM's?
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> *does
[04:14] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: he should use KVM (if he has a recent enough computer
[04:15] <iamcO_ol> oh great, it doesn't explain how to install Xen from scratch
[04:15] <stdin> there is easy-vmx to create VMs for the player
[04:15] <BluesKaj> i don't think he's real serious about linux anyway , he's too busy writing his thesis defence in excel right now to worry about linux distros :)
[04:15] <Dragnslcr> I got an AM2 system just to try out some VM stuff, and I still haven't gotten around to it
[04:16] <Dragnslcr> I tried a little with VMWare, but I couldn't get it to work quite right
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> haha
[04:16] <BluesKaj> Zen does sound interesting tho, stdin, nosrednaekim
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: KVM didn't work with my Turion...
[04:16] <intelikey> !qemu
[04:16] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> but qemu works fine
[04:17] <stdin> BluesKaj: Xen is much more complex tho, but you'd get better performance
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> Zen?
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> do you mean Xen?
[04:17] <Dragnslcr> I think I tried Qemu. Can't remember offhand what went wrong
[04:17] <iamcO_ol> nosrednaekim: oh man! don't tell me that I wanna try KVMized Xen
[04:17] <BluesKaj> I'm taking a break from windows ...gonna try the 'cold turkey' route for a wheile
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> stdin: I don't know about that.... Phoronix ran a report on that...
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> they were all REALLY close
[04:18] <BluesKaj> while
[04:18] <iamcO_ol> BluesKaj: that's actually the best way
[04:18] <iamcO_ol> nosrednaekim: is there?
[04:18] <iamcO_ol> that also another thing I wanted to find out
[04:18] <Dragnslcr> I haven't used Windows on my desktop at home at all
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: hehe...
[04:18] <BluesKaj> yup, just like quitting the smokes...been 6 yrs now
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: having never really used windows my whole life.. I find it easy to do without
[04:19] <Dragnslcr> They only program I want is the management program for my cell phone, but VMWare can't share my bluetooth adapter
[04:19] <iamcO_ol> I wipe out m$$ from frieds computer, telling them is bad and use this instead
[04:19] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: wine?
[04:19] <stdin> intelikey: (re: eval) to be honest, I never use that damn command
[04:19] <Dragnslcr> Wine can't detect the adapter either
[04:19] <iamcO_ol> or I give hell'uv excuses that m$$$ was not able to install and lot of driver problems
[04:19] <iamcO_ol> LAMO
[04:20] <BluesKaj> it's hard for ppl like me who learned how to use a pc with windows to quit it entirely...like an addiction , but i'm getting there :)
[04:20] <intelikey> stdin me either....  even before having that explained to me....     and a lot of init scripts use it now...   (not my init of course)
[04:20] <Dragnslcr> I had Kubuntu on a computer I was using for a home server for quite a while, so I handled the switch well
[04:21] <iamcO_ol> ok what's domU? where I am supposed to install Ubuntu in Dom0 or DomU??
[04:21] <Dragnslcr> I had been running Linux (originally RedHat) for a server for quite a few years
[04:21] <stdin> intelikey: for file in $(find /etc/init.d/);do grep -w "eval" && rm $file;done :p
[04:21] <intelikey> BluesKaj it's not hard.   just read the M$ EULA before you use windows each time.   you won't use it more than two or three more times in your life.
[04:22] <intelikey> stdin :))))
[04:22] <BluesKaj> lol , intelikey  :>))
[04:22] <Dragnslcr> Or reinstall Windows often enough to keep it running at full performance
[04:23] <BluesKaj> vista was pure eye candy but a terribly arcane OS , IMO
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> my freind has to do it every 6 months..
[04:23] <intelikey> Dragnslcr you can't it has to reboot durring install and the wrecks that idea
[04:23] <Dragnslcr> I'm hoping to have time tomorrow to reinstall Kubuntu, but that's just because I'm finally surrendering to the amd64 version as a failed expoermient
[04:23] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, every 6 months is about right
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: eh.. I didn't hate it that bad..
[04:24] <iamcO_ol> Dragnslcr: why didn't work? I am about to install amd64 myself
[04:24] <BluesKaj> no joy with 64 bit kubuntu, Dragnslcr?
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: yeah...I don't like 64 bit yet..
[04:24] <Dragnslcr> Mostly just apps that haven't quite caught up yet
[04:24] <Dragnslcr> Flash is probably the most well-known
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> once most apps switch over to 64 bit, it'll be worth it
[04:25] <Dragnslcr> Yep
[04:25] <iamcO_ol> ROFL, you surrender 'cause of crappy flash?
[04:25] <Dragnslcr> Maybe another year or so
[04:25] <iamcO_ol> well there are a lot of workarounds for that, use 32bit Firefox
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> *ahem* skype* ahem*
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: actually I got flash working real easy with ndpluginwrapper
[04:25] <Dragnslcr> iamcO_ol- there are others, like some of the development versions of Compiz stuff
[04:26] <hitmanWilly> or 32 bit emul libs can handle it
[04:26] <intelikey> or a chrooted env
[04:26] <iamcO_ol> Dragnslcr: do you surrender 'cause of Compuz stuff?
[04:26] <Dragnslcr> I'd rather not deal with Flash at all, really. I just used it as an example
[04:26] <iamcO_ol> Dragnslcr: use gnash
[04:26] <nosrednaekim> brrr...
[04:27] <intelikey> what's youtube ?
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> lol
[04:27] <iamcO_ol> intelikey: what's interwebs?
[04:27] <Dragnslcr> Just some crappy Flash site
[04:27] <Dragnslcr> FlashBlock++
[04:27] <intelikey> iamcO_ol beats me.... i just live here...
[04:28] <johnnyg> Hello! I just installed Feisty Fawn. Before upgrading and rsync'd my home folder. It resides here /media/disk/rsync-backup. What is the command to restore it to my new installation and where do I need to be in the dir structure before I run it?
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> iamcO_ol, well, you see, there's all these tubes hooked together....
[04:28] <iamcO_ol> hitmanWilly: can email the intartubes?
[04:29] <stdin> intelikey: yeah, X
[04:29] <Dragnslcr> PDF is okay, it's just Acrobat Reader that's terrible
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> iamcO_ol, as long as there's no clogs
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> :P
[04:29] <intelikey> stdin but i do use x       Y! i started xorg just last weak
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> johnnyg: cd  to /media/disk/rsyncwhatever
[04:30] <intelikey> then removed it...
[04:30] <stdin> intelikey: and how long did it take for you to kill it?
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> johnnyg: and then " cp -r /home/<your username>
[04:30] <intelikey> ah    a few minutes.   i was looking at some webpage
[04:30] <johnnyg> nosrednaekim: thank you, trying that now
[04:32] <johnnyg> nosrednaekim: -r means recursive? meaning keep going and parsing "into" the dirs as you find them?
[04:32] <Dragnslcr> johnnyg- yeah
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> johnnyg: yah
[04:33] <intelikey> stdin in all honesty i find audacity easier to deal with than learning how to record from tape to cd .... so audacity requires x ...
[04:33] <stdin> ahh, I found your weakness
[04:34] <intelikey> :)
[04:35] <intelikey> tar -cf - "$1" | tar -xf - -C "$2"       where $1 is the existing dir    and $2 is the destination
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> there's ways to keep X under control
[04:36] <Dragnslcr> Chains and a padlock?
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> lol
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> nah, just not using an overly bloated WM/DE
[04:36] <Dragnslcr> Isn't KDE the heaviest one of the bunch?
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> yup
[04:37] <johnnyg> nosrednaekim: please forgive my ignorance, but it didn't go as planned
[04:37] <johnnyg> johnny@johnny-laptop:/home$ cp -r /media/disk/rsync-backup/ .
[04:37] <johnnyg> johnny@johnny-laptop:/home$ ls -a
[04:37] <johnnyg> .  ..  home  johnny  rsync-backup
[04:38] <Dragnslcr> So you just hang out in #kubuntu to pick up chicks?
[04:38] <johnnyg> I want the home in the rsync-backup to become the home on this local box
[04:38] <hitmanWilly> Dragnslcr, nah, i just hang out here to help out the newbies
[04:38] <iamcO_ol> the installation of Xen says it's made from an already installation
[04:38] <johnnyg> hitmanWilly: Then it is your lucky day. Mr. Newb at your service. :)
[04:38] <iamcO_ol> will it be less if it's not installed from the beginning?
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> johnnyg, ok, what you got?
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> oh, NM...
[04:39] <hitmanWilly> should probably pay more attention to the actual text scrolling by...
[04:40] <johnnyg> hitmanWilly: I'm thinking this'll fit it  mv /home/rsync-backup/home /home   is that right?
[04:40] <johnnyg> *fix
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> johnnyg, i don't think mv works on dirs, at least not without the -r flag
[04:41] <intelikey> -R
[04:41] <johnnyg> so   mv -R /home/rsync-backup/home /home   ?
[04:41] <intelikey> but beware you can't move what you can't rm
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> johnnyg, and i'd reccommend you cp it first, in case something borks
[04:42] <johnnyg> cp -r /home/rsync-backup/home /home  ?
[04:42] <hitmanWilly> oh, wait, wait...
[04:42] <intelikey> tar -cf - "$1" | tar -xf - -C "$2"                 where $1 is the existing dir and $2 is the destination
[04:43] <johnnyg> hitmanWilly: I have not run it yet
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> johnnyg, its a capital -R,
[04:44] <johnnyg> hitmanWilly: cp -R /home/rsync-backup/home /home
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> i think...
[04:45] <johnnyg> big R is recursive
[04:45] <Dragnslcr> One works and the other doesn't
[04:45] <johnnyg> so it little r
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> with cp, both work
[04:45] <johnnyg> man says they are aliases
[04:45] <Dragnslcr> Some programs use -r for recursive, some use -R
[04:45] <Dragnslcr> It's a huge pain
[04:45] <Dragnslcr> I think chmod/chown use -R
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> there's always the --recursive option
[04:45] <johnnyg> I'm running cp -r /home/rsync-backup/home /home   let us pray.
[04:45] <nosrednaekim> and on some, -R does something totally different
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> thank god for man pages...
[04:46] <navets> is there any way to make recordmydesktop make smaller video files?
[04:48] <Dr_willis> navets,  could just reencode them/resize them
[04:48] <Schuenemann> does anyone know how can I connect my cell phone to kubuntu using infrared?
[04:49] <navets> Dr_willis: what can I use to resize them?
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> !infrared
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about infrared - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> crap...
[04:49] <Dr_willis> depends on their format. I use that avidumix to resize videos all the time
[04:49] <Schuenemann> !irda
[04:49] <ubotu> Information about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto
[04:49] <Schuenemann> I've been following this, but I get an error at a certain point
[04:49] <Schuenemann> this point: sudo modprobe irda0
[04:50] <guga> !lamp
[04:50] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:50] <johnnyg> another question while I am hearing that big cp command grind. I'm running on a Thinkpad T60p and my middle scroll button does not work. Google isn't telling me what conf to talk to, does anyone know offhand how to enable it?
[04:50] <navets> Dr_willis: ok ill try it
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> Schuenemann, sorry, zero experience with IR
[04:50] <Schuenemann> I think nobody has heh
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> Schuenemann, what error spits out on modprobe?
[04:51] <Schuenemann> sudo modprobe irda0
[04:51] <Schuenemann> oops
[04:51] <Schuenemann> FATAL: Error inserting nsc_ircc (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/irda/nsc-ircc.ko): No such device
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> Schuenemann, there's the problem right there, you're missing a module
[04:52] <navets> Dr_willis: i cant find anything called  avidumix
[04:52] <Schuenemann> what can I do? I typed everything the tutorial stated
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> Schuenemann, oh, sorry, read it wrong, it can't find the device...
[04:52] <Schuenemann> hmm
[04:52] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_willis
[04:53] <Dr_willis> !find avid
[04:53] <ubotu> Found: avida-base, avida-qt-viewer, avida-viewer, sword-comm-tdavid, avidemux
[04:53] <Dr_willis> hay Minataku .
[04:53] <Schuenemann> crap
[04:53] <navets> Dr_willis: is it avidemux
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> Schuenemann, just make sure that the module is indeed there (the path is in the error msg)...
[04:53] <navets> not avidumix ?
[04:54] <Schuenemann> hitmanWilly, but that file is binary
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> Schuenemann, i meant make sure the file itself actually exists
[04:55] <Schuenemann> well, it does
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> ok, just idiot checking myself...
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> Schuenemann, well, make sure that your card is even compatible with that particular driver, and go from there...other than that, i really can't be much help :(
[04:57] <Schuenemann> card?
[04:57] <Kr4t05> Hrm... Does anyone have a way to install a slimmed-down Ubuntu onto a USB flash drive.
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> Schuenemann, the IR card or usb device or whatever is recieving IR signals from the phone
[04:57] <Dragnslcr> !alternate
[04:57] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[04:58] <Schuenemann> do I need a special motherboard for that? I just bought this usb dongle
[04:58] <Dragnslcr> You can try the alternate CD, Kr4t05
[04:58] <brian__> is there a general users channel I should use instead of this one?
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> Schuenemann, probably not, the USB interface should work fine if its supported
[04:59] <Schuenemann> hmmm ok... =/
[04:59] <Dr_willis> !info  avidemux
[04:59] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB
[05:00] <Kr4t05> Dragnslcr: Thanks... I'll try DSL-N, first.
[05:03] <iamcO_ol> hi
[05:03] <iamcO_ol> what can I use chown with LiveCD?
[05:05] <Schuenemann> Dr_willis, can I edit wmv with avidemux?
[05:09] <roho> why does kate run for every file i download from konqueror?
[05:11] <level1_> hello, what the package for the vm software called xen or zen or something?
[05:11] <level1_> can I apt-get it or do I have to configure it?
[05:12] <iamcO_ol> I wanna change permissions for USER in the LiveCD
[05:12] <roho> and i can't remove kate without having to remove a bunch of other stuff
[05:12] <iamcO_ol> I am trying to burn some info so I can wipe out the hdd
[05:12] <iamcO_ol> roho: ha ha ha, use another minimalist distro then
[05:12] <roho> iamcO_ol: that's not helpful.
[05:13] <level1_> roho: you can change file associations
[05:13] <iamcO_ol> how dan I use chown in LiveCD?
[05:13] <level1_> roho: is it using it to open .deb files and binaries?
[05:13] <iamcO_ol> roho: is the truth though
[05:13] <roho> level1_: well, i've checked associations and it shows the right program is supposed to open the file
[05:13] <roho> level1_: that happened, and also karamba files
[05:13] <roho> anything off kde-look.org
[05:13] <level1_> roho: I have that problem too...
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> roho, the problem is the default kde install in kubuntu (kubuntu-desktop) is a kitchen sink meta package that depends on all the kde apps it can find
[05:14] <roho> hitmanWilly: is there a resolution?
[05:14] <roho> level1_: here's the bug report:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/40047
[05:15] <Dr_willis> Schuenemann,  its not really an editor. its more of a 'converter/filter' system
[05:15] <Dr_willis> Schuenemann,  depends on what you really want to 'edit'  I dont touch WMV's in any case/ :) so no idea how it handles them
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> roho, the best one ive found is to remove kde-desktop, autoremove, apt-get kde (meta-package that just gives you kde itself) and then manually apt the kde progs you want
[05:16] <Schuenemann> Dr_willis, wmv sucks, but I have a video in that format and would like to add subtitles to it
[05:16] <roho> hitmanWilly: *sigh*.  that will take forever
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> roho, its a pita, but you'll be gratefull once you do it
[05:16] <roho> you mean kubuntu-desktop, right?
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> roho, yeah, that one :)
[05:17] <Dr_willis> Schuenemann,  Now THAT might be doable.. Not sure about the wmv stuff however. I do recall it having some subtitle adding features
[05:17] <BluesKaj> sacktime, ...niteynite
[05:17] <Schuenemann> I'll take a look at it, thanks
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> roho, or for a really minimalist setup, kde-base and work from there...
[05:18] <roho> i don't necessarily want a minimalist setup
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> roho, honestly, i can't remember if the kde meta package depends on kate or not...
[05:18] <roho> it does
[05:18] <roho> to remove kate, you have to remove kubuntu-desktop
[05:19] <roho> i wonder if you could remove kate, if it would open up the file in some other worthless program
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> roho, im talking about the other one, the actual apt-get install kde package
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> roho, i don't think it does, but im hnot sure about it
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> *not
[05:20] <navets> how can i resize a .avi to make it smaller?
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> roho, actually, if you installed that one first, then removed kubuntu-desktop, then autoremoved, you wouldn't have to reinstall kde...
[05:21] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Not to rush ya or anything, but what's the status on the Amigas?
[05:21] <roho> hitmanWilly: huh?
[05:21] <roho> which one first?
[05:22] <Minataku> Schuenemann: If you're still there, try mencoder
[05:23] <Minataku> Put it in a different format
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  i did grab a Large box from work today. :)
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> roho, try installing the kde package (apt-get install kde), then removing kubuntu-desktop, then apt-get autoremove, that should get rid of all the unnecessary cruft without having to reinstall all of kde
[05:23] <Minataku> One friendlier to us
[05:23] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Sweet. :3
[05:23] <roho> hitmanWilly: alright, i'll try
[05:23] <Schuenemann> Minataku, I tried, but I don't know how to use that
[05:23] <Minataku> On a side note, my Macintosh Classic has been running all day
[05:23] <navets> Dr_willis: avidemux wont let me open an avi file I just created with recordmydesktop
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  its just hard finding a decent STURDY box at times. :) thats the right size. This one had some AllenBradly CNC controller parts in it. heh.
[05:23] <Minataku> Schuenemann: I sent Dr_willis a memo about it
[05:23] <navets> Dr_willis: any suggestions?
[05:24] <Minataku> Dr_willis: You still have the command syntax from that memo I sent you?
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> roho, just be careful, you'll most likely have to reinstall several apps, including konversation (if you use that)
[05:24] <Dr_willis> navets,  run it from a terminal and check the error/info.
[05:24] <Minataku> About mencoder?
[05:24] <Schuenemann> Dr_willis, stop censoring the memo!
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  not that i rember.
[05:24] <roho> well, kde-core is something that has to go if you get rid of kate
[05:24] <Schuenemann> :-)
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  i dont rember any memo!
[05:24] <Minataku> Heh
[05:24] <roho> is there a way to ignore dependencies?
[05:24] <Minataku> Dr_willis: /msg memoserv list
[05:24] <Minataku> See if they're still there
[05:24] <Minataku> This network is very secretive about memos
[05:24] <dale> Hello
[05:24] <Minataku> X3
[05:24] <Dr_willis> heh i got 4 old memos
[05:25] <Minataku> Probably all from me
[05:25] <Minataku> XD
[05:25] <dale> Whats apps use the kde wallet?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> ffmpeg -f flv -i inputfile.flv -f avi -o outputfile.avi
[05:25] <dale> ?
[05:25] <Minataku> Ah
[05:25] <Dr_willis> Oops, sorry, there's no "-o", correct syntax should be: ffmpeg -f flv -i inputfile.flv -f avi outputfile.avi
[05:25] <Minataku> That's right, I used ffpeg
[05:25] <Minataku> Same diff all the same
[05:25] <TrueFX> hi guys
[05:25] <dale> Whats apps use the kde wallet?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> Also, if you need to force a specific audio/video codec combo: ffmpeg -f flv -i inputfile.flv -vcodec blah -acodec blah outputfile.avi
[05:25] <TrueFX> good morning
[05:25] <TrueFX> i ve got a question
[05:26] <Minataku> That's for converting FLV to whatever
[05:26] <TrueFX> does amule use the same network with emule?
[05:26] <Minataku> Just replace flv with the input format
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> roho, the only way i can think of is to go from the complete base package (kde-base) and install all the apps individually
[05:26] <guga_> can i use eclipse as an IDE for python?
[05:26] <dale> Whats apps use the kde wallet?
[05:26] <Schuenemann> I'll install ffmpeg
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  setting up my MythTV box to recprd some shows for me to watch at work next week. :)
[05:26] <TrueFX> whenever ii search for something result is so limited in kubuntu amule
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Did i Miss the Robot Chicken starwars special?
[05:26] <TrueFX> but in windows emule i ve got more results
[05:26] <roho> hitmanWilly: that's lame.  i might as well just not use konqueror
[05:26] <Minataku> Schuenemann: Any further questions about ffmpeg, please consult the manual page :3
[05:26] <Minataku> !patience | dale
[05:26] <TrueFX> what's the reason behind that?
[05:26] <ubotu> dale: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> roho, why do you want to get rid of kate, anyway?
[05:26] <roho> there has got to be a better workaround
[05:27] <TrueFX> anybody knows why?
[05:27] <roho> hitmanWilly: i don't, really.  i want to be able to download files from kde-look.org
[05:27] <Minataku> TrueFX: Predjudice?
[05:27] <TrueFX> ??
[05:27] <navets> Dr_willis: it says ogg file detected...
[05:27] <TrueFX> what do u mean?
[05:27] <TrueFX> by prejudice?
[05:27] <roho> once those files are downloaded, konqueror launches them in kate
[05:27] <roho> it's quite annoying
[05:27] <Minataku> TrueFX: I dunno, maybe they don't like Linux users
[05:27] <TrueFX> that's not prejudice the truth
[05:27] <TrueFX> really
[05:27] <Minataku> TrueFX: I'm j/k, I don't know wht
[05:27] <Minataku> *why
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> roho, oh, right click and "save as"
[05:27] <TrueFX> i ask that seriouslu
[05:27] <guga_> can i use eclipse as an IDE for python?
[05:27] <roho> hitmanWilly: you can't, it's a php file that redirects you
[05:28] <navets> does anyone know of a good app to convert .ogg to .avi
[05:28] <navets> ?
[05:28] <TrueFX> what does j/k mean?
[05:28] <Minataku> navets: OGG is audio
[05:28] <Schuenemann> joking
[05:28] <TrueFX> im not native english speaker
[05:28] <Minataku> AVI is video container
[05:28] <roho> is there a way to just tell konqueror to SAVE everything it downloads? instead of launching an application?
[05:28] <Minataku> TrueFX: "Just Kidding"
[05:28] <Minataku> It means I'm joking
[05:28] <guga_> can i use eclipse as an IDE for python?
[05:28] <stdin> dale: mostly KDE pim (personal information manager) apps, like kmail and Kontact
[05:28] <TrueFX> wht?
[05:28] <TrueFX> and wht
[05:28] <Minataku> TrueFX: We have localized help channels
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> roho, it should be in konq's web settings somewhere...
[05:28] <roho> yeah.
[05:28] <Minataku> What is your native language?
[05:28] <TrueFX> turkish
[05:28] <Minataku> Ah
[05:29] <Minataku> Yeah, we don't have one for that
[05:29] <Minataku> >.<
[05:29] <TrueFX> speak french and spanish too
[05:29] <Minataku> Which is the best and which is second best?
[05:29] <TrueFX> ?
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, you're forgetting theora when you say ogg is audio...
[05:29] <guga_> can i use eclipse as an IDE for python?
[05:29] <TrueFX> turkish english french german spanish
[05:29] <roho> hitmanWilly: i'll find it, i guess
[05:29] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: s/forgetting/not\ knowing/
[05:29] <navets> Minataku: are you sure because I am opening it with kaffine and watching a video
[05:29] <TrueFX> and a little italian
[05:29] <Minataku> navets: Not sure at all
[05:29] <Minataku> lol
[05:29] <navets> lol
[05:29] <Minataku> TrueFX: Heh
[05:30] <TrueFX> so
[05:30] <navets> anyone know a good app to convert .ogg to .avi?
[05:30] <Minataku> TrueFX: Well, I don't know why aMule would get less results
[05:30] <TrueFX> what does wht stand for?
[05:30] <guga_> can I use eclipse as an IDE for python?
[05:30] <Minataku> navets: ffmpeg
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, i would've figured you knew about theora...its a video format that uses the ogg container
[05:30] <Minataku> Try that
[05:30] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: I'm an MP3 guy
[05:30] <guga_> Someone?...Please?...
[05:30] <Minataku> Not an OGG gut
[05:30] <Minataku> *guy
[05:30] <TrueFX> who knows about what i ve asked?
[05:30] <TrueFX> crippled amule?
[05:31] <Minataku> I've been using MP3 since that's all there was
[05:31] <TrueFX> ive searched for perl books with 10 or so results
[05:31] <Schuenemann> guga_, http://wiki.python.org/moin/EclipsePythonIntegration
[05:31] <TrueFX> it would give more than a hundred books on htat in emule
[05:31] <guga_> thankz!
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> or i should say, ogg/vorbis
[05:31] <Schuenemann> TrueFX, global search?
[05:32] <roho> there are plenty of great mp3 players out there that play ogg
[05:32] <TrueFX> yep
[05:32] <roho> who needs an ipod?
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> not me
[05:32] <Schuenemann> I would need one if I had money
[05:32] <navets> how do I use ffmpeg?
[05:32] <navets> lol
[05:32] <Schuenemann> TrueFX, on the same server?
[05:32] <navets> is there a gui?
[05:32] <Minataku> navets: man ffmpeg
[05:32] <navets> k
[05:32] <Minataku> Who needs a GUI?
[05:32] <Minataku> Just slows things down
[05:32] <navets> i like GUI's
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> navets, no gui, but there are front-ends available
[05:32] <Schuenemann> but they require less memorization
[05:33] <Schuenemann> if you have to read the manual, the command line becomes slower
[05:33] <Minataku> Schuenemann: Laziness is never an excuse
[05:33] <navets> hitmanWilly: what is a front-end?
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> the only command you ever need to memorize is 'man' :P
[05:33] <navets> haha
[05:33] <navets> i see \
[05:33] <Dr_willis> man info
[05:33] <Schuenemann> well, that's slower than a GUI
[05:34] <Schuenemann> the man pages could have more examples
[05:34] <TrueFX> yep
[05:34] <TrueFX> edonkey2
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> navets, a gui app that interacts with an existing program
[05:34] <stdin> navets: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frontend
[05:34] <Minataku> Schuenemann: It's also lazier and leaves you screwed in the event you lose the ability to use the GUI
[05:34] <keaton> Can someone help me mount my MP3 player manually? KDE's Daemon thinks it's a camera and won't mount it.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> use front end in a sentance.. "Boy that chick has a really nice frontend.. to her video encoding software"
[05:35] <Schuenemann> Minataku, if I lose the GUI, the 'man' will be waiting for me :-p
[05:35] <navets> if im trying to make a video to put on the internet what would my target type be?
[05:35] <navets> vcd?
[05:35] <Dr_willis> keaton,  you sure its not just using a 'camera' icon..
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> Schuenemann, you could always contribute some to the LDP...write examples to your hearts content :)
[05:35] <Minataku> navets: MPEG1/MP3
[05:35] <keaton> Dr_willis: yup, it uses some sort of camera protocol in Konqueror.
[05:35] <Schuenemann> hehe
[05:35] <keaton> Returns an error and I can't get into my stuff.
[05:36] <Dr_willis> keaton,  use the shell.. :)
[05:36] <keaton> That's what I need help with.
[05:36] <Dr_willis> see what its doing. Check the mount command.
[05:36] <keaton> I tried mount myself, and it didn't work.
[05:36] <stdin> keaton: you need to find the device it's been allocated, use the command "dmesg|tail" and post that to pastebin
[05:36] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I got batteries for that third calculator, the one with the alphanumeric LCD :D
[05:36] <Schuenemann> Minataku, Unknown input or output format: wmv
[05:36] <Dr_willis> keaton,  'mount' should show what/how its mounted...
[05:36] <Schuenemann> maybe ffmpeg can't handle wmv?
[05:36] <TrueFX> how can i buffer through leftside?
[05:37] <roho> hitmanWilly: there's no fix.
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Schuenemann,  i would be very suprised if it DID handle them.
[05:37] <Minataku> Schuenemann: One sec, there's a command to get what yours supports
[05:37] <TrueFX> ls -al |grep for example
[05:37] <Minataku> Dr_willis: It DOES
[05:37] <Minataku> Mine does, anyway
[05:37] <keaton> Dr_willis: I don't know how to check the mount command if it's automounting. I don't know what options it's using!
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> Schuenemann, i believe you need the win32codecs package for wmv
[05:37] <Schuenemann> why microsoft always create some non-standard crap?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  heh - Ive been tossing all sorts of odd file formats at it lately.. been having issues with several. :)
[05:37] <TrueFX> instead of that "result" some operator "ls -al"
[05:37] <Minataku> ffmpeg -formats
[05:37] <TrueFX> <<<<<<
[05:37] <hitmanWilly> Schuenemann, so they control them
[05:37] <TrueFX> left side
[05:37] <Minataku> Dr_willis: *buntu's may have all sorts of horrific deficiencies
[05:37] <stdin> keaton: do you know the device name?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> keaton,  the command is 'mount' :) it shows whats mounted and where.... ( get it.. the command IS 'mount'
[05:38] <navets> how do I exit the man files lol
[05:38] <Minataku> navets: Hit "q"
[05:38] <navets> thx
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  could be ya are using a newer version also.
[05:38] <Minataku> np
[05:38] <keaton> stdin: the device name should be keatonguy.
[05:38] <Schuenemann> I see wmv1 to 4
[05:38] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Newer version + practically all of the USE flags
[05:38] <Schuenemann> to 3*
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  :)
[05:38] <stdin> keaton: no, the device name as in /dev/sdXX
[05:38] <Minataku> Schuenemann: For video, wmav1 or wmav2
[05:38] <keaton> stdin: oh, right. sda.
[05:38] <Schuenemann> Minataku, any clue on what is the difference between them or they're all the same MS shit?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  all 100000000+ of them.
[05:39] <Schuenemann> ok
[05:39] <navets> i got this error
[05:39] <Minataku> Rather, for both audio/video, I believe
[05:39] <navets> home/navets/beryl.ogg: I/O error occured
[05:39] <navets> Usually that means that input file is truncated and/or corrupted.
[05:39] <stdin> keaton: try "pmount /dev/sda keatonguy
[05:39] <Minataku> Schuenemann: Differing versions, I believe
[05:39] <Schuenemann> Minataku, damn, wmav1-2 is not listed
[05:39] <navets> anyy suggestions?
[05:39] <Schuenemann> oops, it is
[05:39] <Minataku> lol
[05:39] <Schuenemann> but still says unsupported
[05:40] <keaton> stdin: it says /dev/sda/ dosen't exist.
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> yup, crippled out of the box...
[05:40] <stdin> keaton: no slash at the end of the file name
[05:40] <keaton> stdin: same error
[05:40] <Schuenemann> ffmpeg -f wmav1 -i movie.wmv -f avi -o outputfile.avi
[05:40] <stdin> keaton: you typed in exactly: pmount /dev/sda keatonguy ?
[05:41] <Minataku> [23:24:24]  Dr_willis Oops, sorry, there's no "-o", correct syntax should be: ffmpeg -f flv -i inputfile.flv -f avi outputfile.avi
[05:41] <Schuenemann> omg...
[05:41] <keaton> stdin: yes, that exactly.
[05:41] <Minataku> No -o
[05:42] <Schuenemann> same error :-/
[05:42] <Schuenemann> ffmpeg -f wmav2 -i movie.wmv -f avi outputfile.avi
[05:42] <Dr_willis> 'friends dont let friends  use wmv' :)
[05:42] <keaton> stdin: Maybe I'm just not explaining this very well. The device isn't mounted at all, the daemon fails to automount it, because it thinks it's a camara and therefore uses soem contrived "camara:/" protocol instead of just mounting it as a USB mass storage device.
[05:42] <Dr_willis> try 'file movie.wmv' see what it says it is?
[05:42] <Minataku> Schuenemann: You probably need that w32codecs package
[05:42] <Minataku> You may also try not forcing the input file
[05:43] <Dr_willis> keaton,  it 'should' be showing up as some /dev/sd## in any case.
[05:43] <Schuenemann> I already have that package
[05:43] <Dr_willis> keaton,  some camreas have a usb device 'mode' that needs to be enabled.
[05:43] <Schuenemann> Dr_willis, movie.wmv: Microsoft ASF
[05:43] <Minataku> Hm
[05:43] <stdin> keaton: what does "ls /dev/[h,s] d[a-z] *" show?
[05:44] <mrynit> how do i upgrade  kubuntu 6.10 to 7.04
[05:44] <keaton> /dev/hdc  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda5  /dev/sdc  /dev/sde
[05:44] <keaton> /dev/sda  /dev/sda2  /dev/sdb   /dev/sdd
[05:44] <Minataku> Try: ffmpeg -vcodec wmv2 -acodec wmav2 -i movie.wmv -f avi outputfile.avi
[05:44] <stdin> !upgrade | mrynit
[05:44] <ubotu> mrynit: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[05:44] <Minataku> Or differing numbers on those
[05:44] <Schuenemann> Minataku, different error now
[05:45] <stdin> keaton: ok, try this: "pmount /dev/sda1 camera1"
[05:45] <Minataku> What error?
[05:45] <Schuenemann> I'd better use pastebin
[05:45] <keaton> Okay, it says "device /dev/sda1 is already mounted to /"
[05:45] <keaton> I assume this means sda1 is actually my hard drive.
[05:46] <stdin> yeah
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Yep
[05:46] <navets> ok is this the right command?
[05:46] <Schuenemann> Minataku, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26969/
[05:46] <navets> ffmpeg -i ~/beryl.ogg -target MPEG1 ~/beryl.avi
[05:46] <navets> I keep getting I/O error
[05:47] <Minataku> Schuenemann: Force output codecs then, too
[05:47] <Dr_willis> !find ffmpeg
[05:47] <ubotu> Found: ffmpeg, ffmpeg2theora, gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg, libxine1-ffmpeg (and 1 others)
[05:47] <stdin> keaton: 1st unplug it, then make sure that if the camera has a "webcam" (or similar) mode it's not set to it and then plug it back in and run that command again
[05:47] <Minataku> Try: ffmpeg -vcodec wmv2 -acodec wmav2 -i movie.wmv -vcodec mpeg1video -acodec mp3 outputfile.avi
[05:48] <keaton> stdin: It's not a camara. It's an MP3 player.
[05:48] <keaton> stdin: My computer thinks it's a camara.
[05:48] <stdin> keaton: yeah :p that's what I meant :)
[05:48] <Schuenemann> see why a GUI is cool? :-P
[05:48] <Minataku> No
[05:48] <Schuenemann> same error *sigh*
[05:48] <stdin> keaton: umm, what make/model ?
[05:48] <Minataku> With a GUI we'd lose that error info
[05:48] <Minataku> Schuenemann: Exact same? Paste it again
[05:48] <Minataku> The new one
[05:48] <mrynit> it says i need update manager i dont have it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyUpdatesEnabled
[05:49] <keaton> stdin: Creative ZEN V Plus
[05:49] <Schuenemann> I'm talking about a GUI having a 'dump' area heh
[05:49] <Schuenemann> ok, just a sec
[05:49] <Dr_willis> !find theora
[05:49] <ubotu> Found: libtheora-dev, libtheora0, ffmpeg2theora, gstreamer0.8-theora, libtheora-bin
[05:49] <Dr_willis>  ffmpeg2theora  seems interesting
[05:49] <Dr_willis> !info  ffmpeg2theora
[05:49] <ubotu> ffmpeg2theora: Theora video encoder using ffmpeg. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.16-2build1 (feisty), package size 20 kB, installed size 96 kB
[05:49] <Schuenemann> Minataku, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26970/
[05:50] <Minataku> Huh
[05:50] <stdin> keaton: hmm, see if amarok can see it
[05:51] <Schuenemann> I'll try with a different file, maybe this one is messed
[05:52] <Schuenemann> bah
[05:52] <Schuenemann> same result
[05:52] <stdin> keaton: open amarok and go to Settings -> Configure Amarok -> Media Devices
[05:52] <Minataku> No, it's just not grabbing the output audio codec for some reason
[05:52] <se7en> is there a software like filemaker for a offline customer database
[05:53] <Minataku> Change the outputfile.avi to outputfile.mpeg
[05:53] <Minataku> See if it's grabbing on the filename and that's messing it
[05:53] <keaton> stdin: Amarok dosen't see anything.
[05:53] <Schuenemann> Minataku, sorry, I don't understand
[05:53] <keaton> stdin: I'm just going to send my music over network to a windows comptuer, much as I wish I didn't have to.
[05:54] <brian__> anyone had any luck getting a java plugin for firefox on ubuntu
[05:54] <Minataku> Schuenemann: In the command line, change "outputfile.avi" to "outputfile.mpeg"
[05:54] <stdin> keaton: did you click "Autodetect Devices" ?
[05:54] <Schuenemann> done that
[05:54] <Minataku> Still nothing?
[05:54] <Schuenemann> I didn't get the second part
[05:54] <Minataku> Schuenemann: Nevermind it
[05:54] <keaton> stdin: yup, it didn't pick up anything.
[05:54] <Schuenemann> what do you mean? the file is empty
[05:54] <roho> is it possible to get konqueror to not open a helper application and instead to just save a file to disk?
[05:54] <Schuenemann> 0 bytes
[05:55] <Minataku> Try: ffmpeg -vcodec wmv2 -acodec wmav2 -i movie.wmv -vcodec mpeg1video -acodec mp3 outputfile.mpeg
[05:55] <stdin> brian__: 32 or 64 bit?
[05:55] <Minataku> Just try that
[05:55] <brian__> 32 bit
[05:55] <Minataku> See if it works or if it gives the same error
[05:55] <Schuenemann> same error :(
[05:55] <stdin> Minataku: shouldn't it be -vcodec wmv3 ?
[05:55] <Schuenemann> Minataku, did any of these work for you?
[05:55] <Minataku> Schuenemann: You must not have the capability to write MP3
[05:55] <stdin> brian__: just run "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin" that's it
[05:56] <Schuenemann> you mean I should have?
[05:56] <brian__> thanks, it wasnt in the package manager
[05:56] <brian__> so I wasnt sure where to find it
[05:56] <Minataku> stdin: It doesn't matter, it's picking up on it all the same
[05:56] <stdin> brian__: are you on dapper, edgy, or feisty ?
[05:57] <brian__> edgy
[05:57] <Minataku> Schuenemann: Well, if we want to convert the audio stream to MP3, you need MP3 writing capability
[05:57] <Schuenemann> yep, I need that
[05:57] <Minataku> !mp3
[05:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:57] <stdin> brian__: you may have to enable the universe and multiverse repositories first then
[05:57] <Minataku> See if any of those get you something like "lame" which is an MP3 encoder
[05:58] <brian__> hmmm yeah looks like I need more repositories
[05:58] <brian__> it just says cant find package
[05:58] <stdin> !repos | brian__
[05:58] <ubotu> brian__: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:58] <stdin> brian__: that page will tell you how
[05:58] <Schuenemann> Minataku, shouldn't I just install that lame?
[05:58] <mrynit> !kde
[05:58] <brian__> thanks
[05:58] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[05:58] <Minataku> !info lame
[05:58] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[05:58] <Minataku> Could try it
[05:59] <Schuenemann> what? you just said it IS an mp3 encoder :p
[05:59] <RadiantFire> of course that is a blatant lie and lame is actually an mp3 encoder
[05:59] <Minataku> It's making fun of WINE
[05:59] <RadiantFire> Schuenemann: it started off as an addon processor for mp3 encoding, but wasn't standalone, th ey added that capability later
[05:59] <Minataku> Ah
[06:00] <Schuenemann> hmm
[06:00] <stdin> Minataku: but WINE is not an emulator
[06:00] <RadiantFire> I think
[06:00] <RadiantFire> this is true
[06:00] <Schuenemann> well, I just installed lame
[06:00] <Minataku> stdin: It's a system call translator
[06:00] <RadiantFire> one of these days I must look at the source for wine, i've wondered how they do that
[06:00] <mrynit> how do i upgrade kde 3.5.5 to 3.5.6 on edgy?
[06:00] <Minataku> Schuenemann: Try the command again, then
[06:00] <Schuenemann> same error
[06:00] <stdin> (compatibility layer)
[06:01] <Minataku> Schuenemann: Can always try raw PCM
[06:01] <RadiantFire> Schuenemann: I'm sorry what are you trying to do, lost it on the scrollback
[06:01] <stdin> mrynit: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[06:01] <Minataku> Or vorbis, or whatever the hell stupid crap *buntu wants you to use
[06:01] <Schuenemann> I want to edit a wmv video, adding subtitles
[06:02] <Schuenemann> and we've been trying to convert it to avi
[06:02] <RadiantFire> mencoder?
[06:02] <Schuenemann> or any non-M$ stupid file format
[06:02] <Schuenemann> ffmpeg
[06:02] <Minataku> We can get as far as the video
[06:02] <RadiantFire> mencoder relies on ffmpeg I think
[06:02] <Minataku> ffmpeg is confusing itself on the output codec
[06:02] <RadiantFire> you can strip an audio stream out using mplayer and multiplex is back in later I think
[06:03] <stdin> RadiantFire: nope
[06:03] <RadiantFire> something liek -ao pcm:file="output"
[06:03] <Minataku> Try: ffmpeg -vcodec wmv2 -acodec wmav2 -i movie.wmv -vcodec mpeg1video -acodec vorbis outputfile.mpeg
[06:03] <Minataku> See if that works
[06:03] <RadiantFire> I would seriously recommend mencoder though, might be a little easier
[06:03] <Minataku> If that doesn't work, I'm going to sleep
[06:03] <Schuenemann> this one was different
[06:03] <RadiantFire> I think it relies on ffmpeg internally
[06:03] <Schuenemann> the same error message, but some million times
[06:03] <Minataku> O.o
[06:04] <Schuenemann> RadiantFire, how would it be with mencoder?
[06:04] <Minataku> RadiantFire: You take over here, then
[06:04] <RadiantFire> I'm looking now, its been a while
[06:04] <Minataku> I'm out of ideas
[06:05] <Minataku> Sorry I couldn't help, Schuenemann
[06:05] <Schuenemann> it's still outputting the message heh
[06:05] <Schuenemann> thanks
[06:05] <stdin> RadiantFire: mencoder doesn't depend on ffmpeg
[06:06] <stdin> Schuenemann: or just use mplayer with "-dumpstream" or even VLC (which has a GUI) to do it
[06:06] <Schuenemann> error, non monotone timestamps 23263608 >= 23263608e= 276.6kbits/s
[06:06] <Schuenemann> stdin, will be dumped into what?
[06:07] <stdin> Schuenemann: with mplayer it'll be raw, with VLC it has several formats to choose from
[06:07] <Minataku> Schuenemann: It sounds like it's encoding
[06:07] <Minataku> It's just complaining a lot
[06:07] <Schuenemann> Minataku, it was converted, with sound though
[06:07] <Schuenemann> without*
[06:07] <Minataku> Heh
[06:07] <dthacker-lt> where can I tell the window manager to make a window active on mouseover?
[06:07] <Schuenemann> just some weird noises
[06:08] <Minataku> Yeah, follow their suggestions then
[06:08] <Dr_willis> dthacker-lt,  not sure kde's window manager has that feature
[06:08] <Minataku> This oversimplistic distribution constantly frustrates any effors to do things the truly easy way
[06:08] <Schuenemann> let me try the mplayer
[06:08] <Minataku> This is why I use Gentoo
[06:08] <Minataku> I don't have to put up with any of this retarded crap
[06:09] <Schuenemann> gentoo you have to recompile the kernel everytime you move the mouse
[06:09] <stdin> dthacker-lt: System Settings -> Window Behaviour
[06:09] <NickPresta> Minataku, what crap? Forgive me, I've been away the last couple hours.
[06:09] <Dr_willis> you have distcc set up on 100 PDP/11's :)
[06:09] <Minataku> Schuenemann: I'll kindly request you actually know something about a distribution before making rude comments about it
[06:09] <RadiantFire> ok, so, lets try mencoder movie.wmv -o movie.mpeg -oac mp3lame -oac lavc lavcopts=vcodec=mjpeg
[06:09] <Minataku> Dr_willis: If I had one PDP/11 it'd be too much
[06:10] <Minataku> Unless it was an LSI-11 of some kind
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> Schuenemann, nah, just everytime you reboot :P
[06:10] <RadiantFire> Schuenemann: did ya get th at?
[06:10] <NickPresta> I use Gentoo for my server. It works quite nice. Compile my server and such, leave it running. I would otherwise compile my server software anyways and Gentoo provides me with a fairly lean installation....
[06:10] <Minataku>  00:09:33 up 104 days, 19:35,  6 users,  load average: 0.02, 0.05, 0.01
[06:10] <Minataku> Not that you have to reboot
[06:11] <Schuenemann> the mplayer -dumpstream worked
[06:11] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: That's why I didn't say anything
[06:11] <Minataku> lol
[06:11] <Schuenemann> RadiantFire, will try now
[06:11] <RadiantFire> I used to use gentoo, to much care and feeding
[06:11] <NickPresta> For desktop usage, I rarely see any benefit in compiling your own software as opposed to using binaries.
[06:11] <RadiantFire> er, used
[06:11] <RadiantFire> gentoo you can have a barebones server up and running faster than any other distro :-)
[06:11] <Schuenemann> RadiantFire, No video encoder (-ovc) selected. Select one (see -ovc help).
[06:11] <Minataku> NickPresta: That's where the benefit is the greatest
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> ok, stupid question, would it be possible to play it using mplayer or something and redirecting the output to ffmpeg?
[06:11] <RadiantFire> Schuenemann: thats my fault, the second oac should be ovc
[06:11] <Minataku> Especially with a properly configured custom kernel
[06:11] <dthacker-lt> stdin: yes, there it is.  The policy dropdown
[06:12] <stdin> Schuenemann: replace the 2nd "-oac" with "-ovc"
[06:12] <NickPresta> Minataku, for most things, you would be hard pressed to find any astounding optimization benefits.
[06:12] <Schuenemann> it's converting
[06:12] <Schuenemann> I think
[06:12] <Minataku> I'm a motorsports fanatic. To me, one second is an insanely long amount of time.
[06:12] <stdin> dthacker-lt: no problem :)
[06:12] <Schuenemann> lot's of duplicate frames, according to console
[06:13] <RadiantFire> thats ok, it happens
[06:13] <RadiantFire> at least its working :-)
[06:13] <NickPresta> Minataku, heh. I understand where you're coming from. For me, I am satisfied with binaries for most things. I can still compile my own on Kubuntu if I wish =P
[06:13] <Minataku> Plus, a custom kernel is the best no matter what
[06:13] <RadiantFire> someone should write a frontend for mencoder, if it hasn't already been done
[06:13] <Minataku> Especially a PREEMPT one with 1000Hz
[06:13] <Minataku> Makes everything fly
[06:14] <Schuenemann> RadiantFire, for sure
[06:14] <RadiantFire> I'll add that to my todo list...
[06:14] <RadiantFire> if I can't find one
[06:14] <Schuenemann> this converting is a lot slower than using mplayer
[06:15] <RadiantFire> cuz its not dumping the stream its actually transcoding
[06:15] <Schuenemann> it has to uncompress and then compress again?
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> Schuenemann, yes
[06:15] <Schuenemann> hmm
[06:15] <Minataku> Schuenemann: Sorry again that I couldn't help
[06:15] <Minataku> lol
[06:15] <Schuenemann> well, ended up with an error
[06:15] <Dr_willis> then exploded...
[06:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:15] <Dr_willis> brb
[06:15] <Schuenemann> File not found: 'lavcopts=vcodec=mjpeg'm:   0min   7mb  A-V:-0.004 [57:127] 
[06:15] <Schuenemann> Failed to open lavcopts=vcodec=mjpeg.
[06:15] <RadiantFire> aww :-(
[06:16] <Schuenemann> lol
[06:16] <RadiantFire> hrm
[06:16] <Schuenemann> wrong syntax?
[06:16] <RadiantFire> maybe
[06:16] <RadiantFire> maybe it was successful
[06:16] <RadiantFire> that sounds like it was trying to transcode that f ile
[06:16] <RadiantFire> see if it output anything?
[06:16] <danb> can anyone help me get ntfs read working on the latest release?
[06:17] <Schuenemann> the output is horrible
[06:17] <Schuenemann> not the audio, the video
[06:17] <RadiantFire> harm
[06:17] <RadiantFire> hrn
[06:17] <RadiantFire> well, at least it worked
[06:17] <Schuenemann> haha
[06:17] <RadiantFire> now to figure out how to specify different encoding options
[06:17] <RadiantFire> I know there is a way of doing quality settings
[06:17] <stdin> RadiantFire: it should be "-lavcopts vcodec=mjpeg"
[06:18] <RadiantFire> sigh... I'm just not on the ball tonight
[06:18] <RadiantFire> apologies :-(
[06:18] <Minataku> It looks like someone smeared the screen in pixelated vaseline and you're watching it through a burlap sack, but at least it worked XD
[06:18] <Minataku> RadiantFire: Hey, don't feel too bad
[06:18] <Minataku> I failed too XD
[06:18] <Schuenemann> mencoder movie.wmv -o movie.mpeg -oac mp3lame -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mjpeg
[06:18] <danb> I installed the NTFS Configuration Tool from Adept, but when I launch it I get an hourglass for a split-second and then nothing
[06:19] <mike> Greets, everyone...
[06:19] <Schuenemann> this stdin ?
[06:19] <stdin> Schuenemann: yeah, something like that
[06:19] <Schuenemann> like that? hehe
[06:19] <RadiantFire> roflmao, I just read the man page.... it sayd "Read the source for details"
[06:19] <mike> Stupid question - Can someone tell me how to recover my Freenode password? I've looked all over their website with no luck.
[06:19] <Schuenemann> ugh
[06:20] <Schuenemann> and the source is assembly? :-D
[06:20] <RadiantFire> not all of it
[06:20] <RadiantFire> some of it is C
[06:20] <Dr_willis> danb,  run it from the shell.
[06:20] <RadiantFire> I would, but I wouldn't have an answer for you this week
[06:20] <luke> hello fellow linux users
[06:20] <stdin> Schuenemann: it's the 3rd "-lavcopts" down
[06:20] <Schuenemann> stdin, excuse me?
[06:20] <mike> Hey luke
[06:20] <stdin> Schuenemann: in the man page
[06:21] <danb> im pretty much a linux noob, could you tell me syntax please?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> mike,  i thinkyou can get  a email from the nickserv some how. Try /msg nickserv help yet?
[06:21] <RadiantFire> stdin: you could try using a different video codec like mpeg4
[06:21] <stdin> Schuenemann: you know how to search a manpage, yes?
[06:21] <RadiantFire> sorry
[06:21] <Dr_willis> danb,  open a shell.. type the name of the command..
[06:21] <RadiantFire> Schuenemann: you could try the using different vcodecs
[06:21] <luke> i'm new to this world..... do you all talk here about linux?
[06:21] <Schuenemann> up/down pgup/down keys?
[06:21] <mike> Dr_willis: Yeah, already tried that. It didn't list anything on the subject. Thanks anyway though.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> danb,  its possible it needs tobe ran as root  with 'sudo whateveritscalled'
[06:21] <Dr_willis> mike,  :()
[06:21] <Schuenemann> acidrip - ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder
[06:21] <Schuenemann> maybe this is a front-end?
[06:22] <stdin> Schuenemann: you can "grep" type a slash and the pattern, eg: /-lavcopts
[06:22] <navets> acidrip is awesome
[06:22] <stdin> Schuenemann: then press 'n' go through the matches
[06:22] <stdin> Schuenemann: same as in less
[06:22] <mike> Actually, it has "RECOVER - kill another user who has taken your nick"... I don't think that's what I'm looking for though
[06:22] <navets> I used it to rip the protector and grandma's boy, they both have great quality
[06:22] <luke> does anyone here use bittorrent?
[06:23] <Dr_willis> lots of us do luke  :)
[06:23] <stdin> mike: I think you'd have to contact the staff
[06:23] <Schuenemann> stdin, what's the parameter after grep? the file name
[06:23] <danb> Dr_willis: thank you, that got it
[06:23] <Minataku> /msg nickserv sendpass
[06:23] <Minataku> Or something to that effect
[06:23] <stdin> Schuenemann: no, you type "man appname" then in that you type "/pattern"
[06:24] <Schuenemann> ahh
[06:24] <luke> has anyone had trouble getting them to load up? i cant access either ktorrent or azurus, they'll try and crash before the main screen comes on. they both used to work fine
[06:24] <danb> how can I get the kde menu to launch it with the visual sudo prompt?
[06:24] <Schuenemann> cool
[06:24] <stdin> it's useful, yes :p
[06:24] <mike> danb: Put kdesu <commandname>
[06:24] <Schuenemann> stdin, well, I got a bigger mpeg, but the same horrible video
[06:25] <luke> danb i edit the item in the k menu to run as root
[06:25] <stdin> Schuenemann: does the file play in mplayer ?
[06:25] <Schuenemann> yes, very slowly
[06:25] <Schuenemann> like: it stops, then advance lots of frames, then stops and so over
[06:25] <RadiantFire> apologies, for failing, I'm sleepy and am thus going to bed
[06:25] <Schuenemann> strange is that the mpeg has over 80 MB whereas the original wmv had 6
[06:25] <stdin> Schuenemann: probably a bad/corrupt file
[06:26] <Schuenemann> stdin, the original file seems ok
[06:26] <Schuenemann> plays ok
[06:26] <stdin> Schuenemann: that's what I meant, the original file
[06:26] <Schuenemann> it plays ok
[06:27] <luke> how do you find an error with a program that fails to launch?
[06:28] <Schuenemann> luke, run it in konsole
[06:28] <luke> tyvm
[06:28] <danb> what is the kde equivilent to the xp disk manager mmc?
[06:28] <Schuenemann> stdin, I'll try with another file
[06:29] <danb> or how do i view the new volume the ntfs-config just added
[06:29] <robotgeek> danb: system settings -> disks and filesystems
[06:29] <Dr_willis> danb,  look in 'media:/' or /media with konqueror file manager
[06:29] <danb> thank you both, checking now
[06:29] <luke> ok, now how to i stop a program thats already running errantly in the konsole?
[06:30] <danb> excellent, that was so painless
[06:30] <Schuenemann> stdin, the result is horrible again... *sigh*
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  check out   http://www.blabberize.com/
[06:30] <danb> thanks again
[06:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:30] <danb> kubuntu amd64 makes xp/vista64 look pathetic
[06:31] <luke> ktorrent locks up inside itself when i run it, and i cannot stop it or access it's ui
[06:31] <danb> now back to the wiki to get my video drivers working ;] 
[06:33] <luke> eventually the krash handler posts a window, but thats usually after several minutes
[06:33] <luke> any ideas?
[06:33] <Dr_willis> luke,  odd . ktorrent is rock solid for me.
[06:33] <hitmanWilly> luke, xkill
[06:33] <Dr_willis> use the 'xkill' command to kill it off perhaps.
[06:33] <luke> me too, up until a week ago
[06:34] <luke> woops, i acidentally killed the konsole.... do i type xkill ktorrent?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> xkill, then click on the program to kill
[06:36] <luke> ok i see, i cannot use xkill because when i launch ktorrent, i do not get a tray icon for it. it locks up sometime before the ui is running
[06:36] <Dr_willis> notice the Leet-haxor-skull-and-crossbones icon/cursor :)
[06:37] <Dr_willis> luke,  try logging in as a new user, and see if it works for them
[06:37] <luke> ok thanks....brb
[06:38] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. I got a 'live bookmark' in firefox.. for a site.. with some OLD OLD OLD junk on it..  is it the sites fault the old stuff isent vanishing?
[06:38] <Dr_willis> or is theres some firefox/cache/setting to clean out the cruft?
[06:38] <Schuenemann> ok, I give up converting this crappy WMV
[06:38] <Schuenemann> screw you, microsoft
[06:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:41] <Dr_willis> this isent some PORN wmv is it?
[06:41] <Schuenemann> heheh nope
[06:41] <purpleposeidon> is there a wmv2good_format anywhere?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> seen a GREAT many porn/wmvs on torrents that have a 'encrypted' wmv codec - where you have to go to some Russian site and install their spoecial codec.. that then infests you with spyware.
[06:42] <Dr_willis> wmv is a container.. it could be any of several dozen codecs in it.
[06:42] <Schuenemann> Dr_willis, under linux?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> Schuenemann,  the videos wmv's would not play under any linux player. :)
[06:42] <Dr_willis> since the codec was basicially  a cheap encryption.
[06:42] <Schuenemann> they do
[06:43] <Schuenemann> you're talking about these specific ones, right?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> i forget the name of the scam/codec.
[06:43] <Schuenemann> not all wmv's
[06:43] <Dr_willis> ya can have a wmv using  some different codecs.. some may have linux support. others may not
[06:43] <Schuenemann> right
[06:43] <stdin> Schuenemann: the command "mencoder -ovc lavc -oac mp3lame -lavcopts vcodec=mjpeg -o outputfile.avi inputfile.wmv" doesn't work?
[06:43] <fooqu> hi
[06:44] <Schuenemann> stdin, is it that last we've tried?
[06:44] <stdin> I think
[06:44] <fooqu> where can I download LiveBlue-Ray?
[06:44] <Schuenemann> it converted, but the video is very bad
[06:44] <stdin> Schuenemann: but you can let it run for a few secs and  then stop it to check
[06:44] <Schuenemann> ok
[06:44] <stdin> Schuenemann: because it works on 1 wmv I got
[06:45] <Schuenemann> can I just kill the process?
[06:45] <stdin> yeah, Ctrl-C
[06:46] <Schuenemann> nah... it's awful
[06:46] <Schuenemann> skipping frames
[06:46] <Schuenemann> just a min
[06:46] <stdin> fooqu: no clue, it's not in the repositories, try googleing for "LiveBlue-Ray linux" or "LiveBlue-Ray ubuntu"
[06:47] <Minataku> It could also have DRMv1 or DRMv2, but that wouldn't cause transcoding failure
[06:47] <Minataku> It just plain wouldn't play
[06:47] <fooqu> stdin: oh that sucks
[06:47] <Schuenemann> stdin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26971/
[06:47] <stdin> yeah, drm just wouldn't play
[06:47] <Schuenemann> is this normal? it doesn't seem normal
[06:47] <Bob_> hey i'm back. i was just talking to someone about ktorrent as 'luke'
[06:47] <Minataku> Well, it WILL play
[06:48] <Minataku> But you get nothing more than a confusing epilepsy inducer
[06:48] <stdin> Schuenemann: I got similar output
[06:48] <Minataku> lol
[06:48] <Schuenemann> I only copied a small part of it, stdin
[06:48] <Schuenemann> stdin, did it play smooth?
[06:48] <stdin> yeah
[06:48] <Schuenemann> audio yes, video no, in my case
[06:49] <Bob_> someone suggested i run ktorrent as a different user and it worked. does anyone know how to reset my main id to work with all my programs? maybe a default?
[06:49] <Schuenemann> stdin, it's odd how the avi/mpeg get so bigger than the original wmv
[06:50] <Dr_willis> the .kde dir has all your settings
[06:50] <stdin> Schuenemann: last shot would be to try in VLC, it used different codecs
[06:50] <Dr_willis> look in thee for the ktorrent files/dirs (should be  2 dirs i think)
[06:50] <zero1328> um, simple question: is there a way for me to gain write permissions outside of the terminal?
[06:50] <Schuenemann> stdin, the dump with mplayer was ok
[06:50] <Bob_> ok thanks
[06:50] <Dr_willis> zero1328,  you may want to rephrase/clarify the problem. gain permissions where?
[06:51] <zero1328> like in /etc or something
[06:51] <stdin> Bob_: probably removing ~/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/ and ~/.kde/share/config/ktorrentrc
[06:51] <Schuenemann> chmod?
[06:51] <se7en> is there a terminal solution for cp only new files from one directory to another (backup)
[06:51] <NickPresta> define "new"
[06:51] <Dr_willis> zero1328,  to access/change things in a system dir like that. You should be using 'sudo' type commands
[06:51] <Dr_willis> sudo vi /etc/filetoedit
[06:52] <Dr_willis> and so forth. (or the gui equilivent to sudo)
[06:52] <dthacker-lt> se7en: write a quick script?
[06:52] <stdin> Schuenemann: the dump just seems to be a copy of the file, so that's why
[06:52] <zero1328> ok, so what you're trying to say is that I have to use Konsole or something?
[06:52] <Schuenemann> oh yeah, they have the same size duh
[06:52] <tripppy> im getting errors while emptying garbage bin, yes ive tryed "sudo rm -rf /home/<your username>/.Trash/*"
[06:52] <robotgeek> se7en: cp --update
[06:53] <stdin> tripppy: what errors?
[06:53] <se7en> thanks robotgeek
[06:53] <robotgeek> se7en: you might also look at rsync, if you are going to do it over the network or so
[06:53] <Dr_willis> tripppy,  be very CAREFULL with that command. :) one typo = BAM! reinstall time
[06:54] <dthacker-lt> rsync is cool
[06:54] <zero1328> what did you mean by a "gui equivalent to sudo"?
[06:54] <stdin> zero1328: kdesu
[06:54] <stdin> !kdesu
[06:54] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:54] <tripppy> error while deleting. i dont have permissions to modify its parent folder.
[06:54] <se7en> robotgeek: rsync sounds cool i will try that thanks
[06:54] <zero1328> ok, I was wondering what kdesu was when I was using it.. now I know
[06:54] <zero1328> thanks
[06:55] <Dr_willis> i peerfer to use 'sux' but im old-skool
[06:55] <Schuenemann> stdin, what was the vlc command syntax?
[06:55] <Dr_willis> !info sux
[06:55] <ubotu> sux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (feisty), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB
[06:55] <Minataku> Heehee. Strong Mad's homemade fireworks are batteries, gasoline and WD-40
[06:56] <stdin> tripppy: sudo chmod -R $(whoami): ~/.local/share/Trash/"
[06:56] <stdin> Schuenemann: it's a GUI app
[06:56] <stdin> Schuenemann: use the wizard in the file menu
[06:56] <stdin> tripppy: opps, that's  sudo chown -R $(whoami): ~/.local/share/Trash/
[06:56] <stdin> Schuenemann: not chmod
[06:56] <Schuenemann> huh?
[06:57] <tripppy> chown: cannot access `/home/dam/.local/share/Trash/': No such file or directory
[06:57] <stdin> Schuenemann: that wasn't for you :p
[06:58] <danb> can anyone tell me an easy way to get mp3 support in amarok on fiesty?
[06:58] <danb> everything i found on google was outdated or for gnome
[06:58] <Schuenemann> it's transcoding
[06:58] <stdin> tripppy: then you seem to have deleted it
[06:58] <stdin> danb: did you look on the wiki?
[06:58] <Schuenemann> danb, get libxine-extracodecs
[06:59] <Schuenemann> stdin, now the video is very fast and without sound hahaha
[06:59] <stdin> heh
[07:00] <robotgeek> w32codecs, no?
[07:00] <Schuenemann> maybe I should try different settingas
[07:00] <Schuenemann> or give up
[07:00] <stdin> and people ask why wmv's are bad....
[07:01] <Schuenemann> because they carry that W
[07:01] <dthacker-lt> among other things...
[07:01] <ikesire> how do i persuade diff to show me the exact chars that differ?
[07:01] <tripppy> alrighty. when i get the error i can skip, cancel or retry. i press skip to 8 file/folder errors. about not havving permission to modify parent folder, also errors about folders not being empty. also. the files listed in the errors don't appear in the trash.
[07:02] <dthacker-lt> ikesire: diff -y will give you side to side
[07:02] <Schuenemann> stdin, what should I set as the mpeg bit rate?
[07:02] <stdin> ikesire: or use cmp
[07:02] <ikesire> dthacker: believe me, my diffs are so tricky that i really don't know which character(s) is the problem
[07:03] <stdin> Schuenemann: anything you want
[07:03] <ikesire> dthacker: so not even a side-by-side would do the job
[07:03] <ikesire> stdin: thank you
[07:03] <Schuenemann> stdin, how does that affect the final result?
[07:03] <Schuenemann> quality?
[07:03] <stdin> Schuenemann: file size/quality
[07:04] <Schuenemann> and what codec?
[07:04] <Schuenemann> mpeg 1, 2, mjpeg...
[07:04] <dthacker-lt> ikesire: at that point I usually write some perl.   I need to try vmdiff.
[07:05] <ikesire> dthacker: thank you
[07:05] <stdin> Schuenemann: try mpeg-1 or 2
[07:05] <stdin> Schuenemann: mjpeg may work better tho
[07:05] <Schuenemann> omfg
[07:06] <Schuenemann> now I got sound but no video
[07:06] <Schuenemann> this might be some prank or something
[07:08] <Schuenemann> a green fast video and no sound
[07:08] <Schuenemann> I give up
[07:08] <Schuenemann> stdin, thanks though
[07:09] <stdin> you're welcome
[07:09] <robotgeek> Schuenemann: have you installed w32codecs?
[07:10] <sweettooth> hi all, can anyone tell me how can i check the log of my system before a crash?
[07:10] <sweettooth> my system crashed completely when i installed and tried to run xine
[07:10] <Schuenemann> robotgeek, yes
[07:10] <sweettooth> so i wanted to know what happened
[07:10] <robotgeek> sweettooth: most system logs are in /var/logs
[07:10] <robotgeek> Schuenemann: some drm stuff does not play, so that might be it.
[07:10] <Schuenemann> drm?
[07:10] <robotgeek> i could try if you posted it somewhere
[07:11] <robotgeek> !drm
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <sweettooth> robotgeek, thx
[07:11] <stdin> robotgeek: the file plays in mplayer, but won't transcode
[07:11] <Schuenemann> if the bot doesn't know about it, then it doesn't exist
[07:11] <robotgeek> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management stdin
[07:12] <stdin> robotgeek: I know what it is :p
[07:12] <Schuenemann> but the file p?ays
[07:12] <robotgeek> stdin: sorry, tab completion mistake
[07:12] <Schuenemann> robotgeek, you said "I could try"
[07:12] <sweettooth> i have just restarted xine from command line, its giving me some errors
[07:12] <Schuenemann> what do you mean?
[07:13] <sweettooth> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[07:13] <robotgeek> Schuenemann: if you point me to the video
[07:13] <sweettooth> does anyone know wht it means
[07:13] <Schuenemann> I'll find it
[07:14] <Schuenemann> robotgeek, http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/213/
[07:14] <Schuenemann> below the video there is 'download it'
[07:14] <stdin> heh, I remember watching that a while ago :p
[07:14] <Schuenemann> I'll brb
[07:16] <Schuenemann> back
[07:17] <Schuenemann> robotgeek, any progress?
[07:17] <Schuenemann> I don't mean to hurry you up, but I have to sleep :)
[07:17] <stdin> Schuenemann: hmm, the mencoder command worked here
[07:17] <Schuenemann> and the output is fine?
[07:17] <stdin> yeah
[07:18] <stdin> 82MB file tho
[07:18] <Schuenemann> how big is the file?
[07:18] <Schuenemann> hmm
[07:20] <robotgeek> Schuenemann: downloading, right now
[07:20] <Schuenemann> I'll try tomorrow with windows movie studio or something like that
[07:20] <Schuenemann> robotgeek, he already tested, you don't have to do that
[07:20] <Schuenemann> :)
[07:20] <robotgeek> Schuenemann: works for me
[07:20] <stdin> Schuenemann: I'll see if another video codec makes a smaller file
[07:25] <stdin> Schuenemann: 23MB but audio/video is slightly out of sync
[07:25] <Schuenemann> hmm
[07:26] <Schuenemann> why is it so big compared to the wmv?
[07:26] <Schuenemann> I can't believe microsoft has a nice compressed format
[07:26] <stdin> because it was using wmv9 which compresses more
[07:26] <stdin> (and looses more quality)
[07:27] <Schuenemann> but the mpeg can't have more quality than that, can it?
[07:27] <Schuenemann> from that file, of course
[07:27] <stdin> no, it'll actually have less
[07:28] <Schuenemann> ok, thanks
[07:28] <Schuenemann> see you in another life, brother
[07:28] <stdin> heh
[07:28] <stdin> cya
[07:37] <sweettooth> hi there, i have installed xine in kubuntu and somehow i keep getting the error msg
[07:37] <sweettooth> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26974/
[07:37] <sweettooth> can anyone tell me what's wrong?
[07:43] <emonkey-f> sweettooth, do you  use the fglrx Driver?
[07:43] <roberto> hello
[07:43] <roberto> hola
[07:43] <sweettooth> emonkey-f, can you please tell me how to find out?
[07:44] <emonkey-f> I've just read that sometimes there problems in combination with Nvidia fglrx Driver and xine
[07:45] <sweettooth> oh ic
[07:45] <sweettooth> well im using intel 915
[07:45] <roberto> puta  madre
[07:45] <emonkey-f> s/nvidia/ati/
[07:46] <emonkey-f> Hmm Intel drivers... normally I haven't any problems with them
[07:47] <emonkey-f> With your error message I find many cases which have to do with cedega/wine
[07:47] <emonkey-f> do you use such things?
[07:47] <roberto> cedega rules man
[07:47] <sweettooth> i know, i had a look as well
[07:47] <roberto> umm
[07:47] <sweettooth> no, not at the mo
[07:48] <roberto> hi
[07:48] <roberto> hello
[07:48] <roberto> hey
[07:48] <roberto> hey
[07:48] <roberto> hey
[07:48] <roberto> hey
[07:48] <roberto> ai alguien ahi?
[07:49] <roberto> roberto_9085@hotmail.com
[07:49] <emonkey-f> sweettooth, sorry no further ideas... :(
[07:50] <sweettooth> emonkey-f, that's ok, thx for trying
[08:11] <ebaad> can somebody help me in setting the sound on Kubuntu 7.04
[08:13] <monzie> Hi All
[08:13] <monzie> Firefox is connecting to the internet but Konqueror is not
[08:14] <monzie> can someone help please?
[08:15] <binks> when i start vdr it complains about utf8 and i should switch it off how do i do this
[08:17] <Ryiel> binks: you can turn utf-8 but i dont thin it worth the struggle. If you arent using english kubuntu, your special letters will be screwed. (and other perphaps wont see them) If you want to use vdr for satellite tv, use kaffeine instead. It's just my opinion...
[08:18] <binks> Ryiel: i cant get sc or sasc to work under kaffeine
[08:18] <Ryiel> Im using kaffeine with kaffeine-sc plugin.
[08:19] <binks> i have the plugin but it doesnt dycrypt
[08:19] <Ryiel> you can download the latest kaffeine sc plugin from edyk.mylivepage.ru
[08:19] <Ryiel> you have to create a .kaffeine directory in your /home/yourname
[08:20] <binks> is there a way to debug the plugin or see whats happening
[08:20] <Ryiel> put the softcam key file there
[08:20] <binks> i have done that
[08:20] <Ryiel> and you have to edit the softcam file cause kaffeine sc uses a different form of keys
[08:20] <binks> but with a uppercase K s that wrong
[08:20] <Ryiel> lowercase k
[08:20] <Ryiel> .kaffeine
[08:20] <binks> just a sec
[08:21] <Ryiel> but you can track down your problem by running kaffeine from konsole
[08:22] <ebaad> can somebody help me in setting the sound on Kubuntu 7.04
[08:23] <Ryiel> ebaad: what's the problem?
[08:23] <Consty> I'm a long time Ubuntu user and I'll be switching to Kubuntu soon.  Just wondering what a few of you think of Kubuntu in general.  It's sort of tough finding reviews for Kubuntu out there (mostly just ubuntu in general)
[08:23] <Ryiel> Consty: its the same as ubuntu but with kde
[08:23] <Ryiel> It depends on your taste
[08:23] <ebaad> the kde interface is nice
[08:24] <Consty> Ryiel: How hard is it on system resources?
[08:24] <ebaad> Ryiel---the sound does not work since i upgraded to 7.04
[08:24] <Ryiel> Consty: it takes a bit more. Of course you can turn the effects off
[08:24] <ebaad> i'm running kubuntu and it works fine so far except the sound
[08:24] <Ryiel> but i love it for UI
[08:25] <ebaad> yes i concure
[08:25] <Ryiel> ebaad: erm, upgraded from 6.10 to feisty?
[08:25] <ebaad> yes siri
[08:25] <binks> Ryiel:
[08:25] <binks> inv:2 sr:6952000 fecH:3 mod:3
[08:25] <binks> . LOCKED.
[08:25] <binks> open failed: Device or resource busy
[08:26] <Consty> Ryiel: I also understand that it uses a lot of different applications, notably the k suite of apps.  I'm pretty anxious to see k3b/amarok since I've been stuck using GnomeBaker/Banshee respectfully.
[08:26] <Ryiel> www.rafb.net plz pastebin the output of these commands: lsmod, lspci
[08:26] <binks> how do i tell if the sc is loaded
[08:26] <Ryiel> it was for ebaad
[08:26] <Consty> Ryiel: I'm most interested though in the file browser, the browser & file browser are the same yeah?  How do you like those?
[08:26] <Consty> Ryiel: Is Konquerer a suitable replacement for Firefox?
[08:26] <ebaad> oh ok
[08:27] <Ryiel> binks: start kaffeine in konsole and paste the output of it to www.rafb.net/paste
[08:27] <binks> Ryiel: do you want me to pastebin those cmds
[08:27] <binks> ok m8
[08:27] <Ryiel> and ofc start tv and choose a channel
[08:27] <NickPresta> Consty, if you don't use Firefox exclusive addons, Konqueror is a suitable replacement, yeah.
[08:27] <ebaad> do u wnat me to paste the out put here
[08:27] <Ryiel> Consty: if you want to replace it, yes. But im using firefox :D
[08:28] <Ryiel> ebaad: nope, paste it on www.rafb.net/paste
[08:28] <binks> http://rafb.net/p/BLvDZz78.html Ryiel
[08:28] <ebaad> oky dok
[08:28] <Ryiel> and give me the link to check it
[08:28] <Ryiel> binks: checkin
[08:28] <binks> :)
[08:29] <Consty> Ryiel: How do GTK apps look when using KDE?  On a primarily QT based desktop I'm curious to know how well GTK and QT apps look side by side.  Is it noticeably different?  Close?  On Ubuntu KDE apps look like crap.
[08:29] <Ryiel> binks: lspci and lsmod outputs too plz
[08:30] <Ryiel> Consty: I dont see the reason why you should use gtk apps
[08:30] <Ryiel> ofc if you need them you can run them
[08:30] <Consty> Ryiel: Firefox is a GTK app.
[08:30] <ebaad> Ryiel----http://rafb.net/p/PpYEbd34.html
[08:30] <Ryiel> Consty: hmm, it looks just find :D
[08:30] <Ryiel> fine
[08:31] <Ryiel> ebaad: lspci plz
[08:31] <binks> Ryiel: http://rafb.net/p/1ArXsA26.html
[08:32] <Ryiel> ebaad: it looks like the modules are loaded
[08:32] <ebaad> Ryiel ---
[08:32] <ebaad> ebaad@linserver:~$ lspci
[08:32] <ebaad> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  651 Host (rev 02)
[08:32] <ebaad> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)
[08:32] <ebaad> 00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  SiS962 [MuTIOL Media IO]  (rev 25)
[08:32] <ebaad> 00:02.1 SMBus: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  SiS961/2 SMBus Controller
[08:32] <ebaad> 00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  5513 [IDE] 
[08:32] <ebaad> 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
[08:32] <binks> ebaad: dont paste here
[08:32] <ebaad> 00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  USB 1.0 Controller (rev 0f)
[08:32] <Ryiel> dont paste here...
[08:32] <ebaad> 00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  USB 1.0 Controller (rev 0f)
[08:33] <ebaad> 00:03.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  USB 2.0 Controller
[08:33] <ebaad> 00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 91)
[08:33] <ebaad> 00:08.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 80)
[08:33] <ebaad> 00:09.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 50)
[08:33] <ebaad> 00:09.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 50)
[08:33] <ebaad> 00:09.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 51)
[08:33] <ebaad> 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c940 10/100/1000Base-T [Marvell]  (rev 12)
[08:33] <ebaad> 00:0e.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 10)
[08:33] <ebaad> 00:0f.0 Network controller: RaLink Wireless PCI Adapter RT2400 / RT2460
[08:33] <ebaad> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[08:33] <ebaad> ebaad@linserver:~$
[08:33] <ebaad> Ryiel --- http://rafb.net/p/Jlok1i25.html
[08:33] <ebaad> i'm sorry the buffer did not get cleared
[08:33] <ebaad> oooopsss
[08:34] <Jcs> how's it going?
[08:34] <NickPresta> !pastebin | ebaad
[08:34] <ubotu> ebaad: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:35] <Jcs> how can i get flash to work correctly? i thought i had it installed but nothing is working on firefox
[08:35] <roho> i have a dell that has these media function keys.  one of them, page down, is messed up.  when i want to page down, it turns down the volume.  could someone point me to where i might learn how to fix that?
[08:35] <ebaad>  i'm sorry the buffer did not get cleared
[08:35] <johnnyg> I want to install an IM client named Spark. They only have a tar.gz version so I can't use synaptic. Where is the proper place to untar it to? /home/johnny seems wrong...
[08:35] <ebaad> Thousand apologies
[08:35] <roho> Jcs: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[08:36] <Ryiel> ebaad: sorry, i have no idea. seems like the modules are loaded...
[08:36] <Consty> Ryiel: So is firefox included with Kubuntu automatically or did you install it yourself?  I don't want to use Kubuntu if it comes with a bunch of applications that do the same job.
[08:36] <Ryiel> perhaps you can try and rmmod them then modprobe back
[08:36] <Consty> Ryiel: That's just annoying imho.
[08:36] <ebaad> but still i can hear the system cound or any of the multimedia apps
[08:36] <roho> Consty: it's included.
[08:36] <Ryiel> i think it was installed. But i cant really remember
[08:37] <Jcs> how is GNASH?
[08:37] <Ryiel> binks: technotrend card?
[08:37] <binks> Ryiel: any ideas on my kaffeine prob
[08:37] <binks> yes
[08:37] <binks> tt2300 dvb-c
[08:38] <Ryiel> ah, cable, not satellite
[08:38] <Jcs> roho: it says flashplugin-nonfree is already newest version
[08:40] <johnnyg> where is the equivialent of C:\Program Files in linux?
[08:41] <binks> Ryiel: but i get fta so the card is working
[08:41] <Ryiel> there is no equivalent :) Linux isnt windows :) What are you looking for?
[08:41] <johnnyg> I want to install an AIM client. I have a tar.gz. I don't want to clutter my home directory by installing it there. I'm wondering where it goes
[08:41] <Ryiel> johnnyg: you can use kopete for aim
[08:42] <johnnyg> Ryiel: I want to try out Spark from jive software.
[08:42] <Ryiel> always try to install programs from the repository not from 3rd party source
[08:42] <Karti> !ipod
[08:42] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[08:42] <johnnyg> in the case you do have a tar.gz and you've got to throw it somewhere, where is it best put?
[08:43] <Karti> !rockbox
[08:43] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[08:43] <Ryiel> it contains the source, so the best is to put it to /usr/src
[08:43] <Ryiel> unpack it, run ./configure and if it can configure it, make and make install
[08:43] <Ryiel> ofc sudo is necessary
[08:45] <Ryiel> binks: so, fta channels are fine. Did you open a channel thats encrypted? cause i see nothing about it in the log file. This is how looks mine when i open an encrypted channel: http://rafb.net/p/r6P3ZJ52.html
[08:45] <johnnyg> Ryiel: thanks
[08:46] <Ryiel> johnnyg: but i still recommend you to use adept and look for an aim cilent
[08:47] <Ryiel> client
[08:48] <Jcs> my nick isnt registered
[08:48] <jussi01> !aim | johnnyg
[08:48] <ubotu> johnnyg: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[08:49] <Ryiel> thanks jussi01 :)
[08:49] <Ryiel> just what i was thinking about
[08:49] <jussi01> :)
[08:50] <Ryiel> You know people who got used to windows cannot go with the repository system. It takes time to get used to it :)
[08:50] <binks> Ryiel: line 44 skysports is encrypted but no mention of sc loadin as it does in yours
[08:50] <jussi01> Ryiel: yeah, so true
[08:51] <Ryiel> binks: Hmm... Does it even work with cable cards? I've never had any dvb-c, so i dont really know. How did you install the kaffeine-sc? .deb file? Which version?
[08:52] <kprofthreat> Hmm
[08:53] <binks> i installed deb 0.3.3 and yes it should work on dvb-c as should vdr and mythtv
[08:53] <Ryiel> can you see the plugin in kaffeine?
[08:54] <Ryiel> dvb/dvb settings
[08:54] <binks> yes i can
[08:54] <binks> in dvb plugins
[08:55] <Ryiel> then it should work. the keyfile has to be in /home/yourname/.kaffeine and the name is SoftCam.Key
[08:55] <binks> but if i enter the plugin there are no entries under Newcs client settings
[08:56] <Ryiel> cause you dont use newcs
[08:57] <binks> arr ok so there is nothing to setup in sc plugin
[08:58] <Ryiel> nothing at all
[08:58] <Ryiel> but you need a proper softcam.key
[08:59] <binks> hmm ill have to try o work out how to make it then
[09:00] <binks> Ryiel: :) ill try it
[09:00] <Ryiel> i sent you my keyfile, just try to follow the scheme
[09:00] <Ryiel> i hope it helps
[09:05] <randoman> hey guys
[09:05] <randoman> whats the best way to add commands to bootup of kde
[09:05] <randoman> is it to add a script to /etc/init.d
[09:05] <binks> Ryiel: thanks for the help need to restart
[09:06] <stdin> randoman: if it's just a couple commands then put them in /etc/rc.local
[09:07] <randoman> k
[09:07] <randoman> but if its a full on script put it in init.d
[09:09] <stdin> randoman: then you'd have to make links in /etc/rcX.d/ and make sure it's not ran at shutdown too. you can just put the path to the script in /etc/rc.local too
[09:11] <marcelo> hay alguien que sepa espanol?
[09:11] <jussi01> !es
[09:11] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:14] <poweruser1> Major linux n00b here. How would I rename my main acct?
[09:14] <akrus> deluser;adduser :D
[09:15] <poweruser1> Uh, w/out deleting my acct?
[09:15] <akrus> sudo nano /etc/passwd
[09:15] <akrus> change your account name
[09:15] <akrus> save it
[09:15] <akrus> re-login o_O
[09:15] <akrus> no idea if it's right
[09:15] <akrus> it will likely work, but no idea how :D
[09:15] <joncsn> how come firefox tries to play imbedded realplayer files but doesnt actually play?
[09:15] <poweruser1> Well, least you made an effort to answer
[09:15] <poweruser1> Ty
[09:16] <akrus> :)
[09:16] <akrus> joncsn: doesn't work for me as well :o realplayer never worked well T_T
[09:17] <joncsn> drats
[09:17] <stdin> poweruser1: System Settings -> User Management (I would guess)
[09:17] <joncsn> how will i watch democracynow
[09:17] <Consty> Can you install KDE4 in Kubuntu 7.04?
[09:18] <joncsn> is there a difference between firefox and mozilla-firefox
[09:18] <akrus> poweruser1: here it's called 'About me' :)
[09:18] <stdin> Consty: read the announcements on kubuntu.org
[09:18] <crimsun> joncsn: the latter is the obsoleted binary package name.
[09:19] <akrus> the name, but not the login o_o
[09:19] <stdin> joncsn: mozilla-firefox is the old name
[09:19] <joncsn> how come flash works on the adobe site for me but not on other web pages?
[09:19] <stdin> joncsn: installed flash9 ?
[09:19] <joncsn> yep
[09:19] <akrus> poweruser1: oh year stdin is right :)
[09:19] <Consty> stdin: That is so cool, have you installed it?
[09:19] <akrus> year=yeah
[09:19] <stdin> then it should (if it's flash)
[09:20] <akrus> Adobe is using Ajax when Flash it's not available, are you sure it's really flash?
[09:20] <stdin> Consty: yeah, but that's because I'm fishing out some of the many, many bugs
[09:20] <Consty> stdin: So it's pretty unstable?
[09:21] <stdin> Consty: extremely
[09:21] <stdin> Consty: it's only really useful for development
[09:21] <stdin> Consty: no where near ready yet
[09:21] <joncsn> 'This product requires Mozilla Firefox 1.5 with Macromedia Flash 8'
[09:23] <stdin> joncsn: what does "apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree" show?
[09:23] <Consty> stdin: Ah rats. :)
[09:24] <joncsn> installed 9.0 etc
[09:24] <stdin> Consty: they expect a stable version (release) by october
[09:24] <stdin> joncsn: after you installed it, did you restart firefox?
[09:24] <Consty> stdin: what kind of great new features have you seen in kde4?
[09:24] <joncsn> yes
[09:25] <stdin> Consty: well, it's a compleat rewrite :p speed is better than ever plasma is looking nice and dolphin is getting there
[09:26] <stdin> Consty: and the composit extention to kwin is nice too :)
[09:26] <stdin> joncsn: and going to the address about:plugins shows flash in there?
[09:27] <joncsn> on adobes site?
[09:27] <stdin> joncsn: no, go to the address "about:plugins"
[09:28] <joncsn> oh sorry
[09:28] <joncsn> yes says it is enabled
[09:28] <joncsn> application/x-shockwave-flash
[09:29] <stdin> then it should work
[09:30] <joncsn> o well
[09:30] <joncsn> is there a way to use realplayer instead of mplayer trying to embed stuff?
[09:34] <Consty> stdin: I'm actually a long time gnome user planning to migrate over to KDE. :P
[09:34] <lie> hello
[09:34] <Consty> stdin: Primarily because of amarok and k3b.  Plus it just looks a bit more recent in terms of technology.
[09:34] <lie> anybody want to talk to me
[09:35] <stdin> Consty: well, it is :P and it's getting better all the time, there have been 3 releases in 18 months
[09:36] <Consty> stdin: It just always seems like kubuntu is not nearly as supported as ubuntu (for obvious reasons), I guess I never used it because I was always worried that it would drop or something. :)
[09:36] <stdin> Consty: use both?
[09:36] <lie> hello mili
[09:36] <Lynoure> lie: if you just want to chat, #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic are more chatty, this is the support channel
[09:36] <mili> hi
[09:36] <Consty> stdin: What do you mean?  install kubuntu-desktop ontop of my ubuntu desktop?  No way..
[09:37] <lie> ok thanks lynoure
[09:37] <jussi01> lie: also #ubuntuforums is good for that
[09:37] <lie> how to get there
[09:38] <Lynoure> lie: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:39] <lie> hello
[09:40] <AutoMatriX> Hi, folks
[09:41] <jussi01> hello AutoMatriX
[09:44] <Cuito> hmm
[09:45] <Cuito> can someone help me?When i start the computer LILO starts kubuntu.I cant choose which OS i want to start.And i want to remove LILO to GRUB(Or just learn how to config LILO)
[09:46] <AutoMatriX> Cuito: man lilo :p
[09:47] <jussi01> !grub
[09:47] <Cuito> (No manual entry for lilo):P
[09:47] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:52] <micman> hello everybody
[09:52] <micman> hello shiva r  u there?
[09:53] <micman> superkiddo r u there too?
[09:53] <jussi01> micman: whats your issue?
[09:53] <jussi01> can we help?
[09:54] <micman> thx jussi01  . i dont need help for know.
[09:54] <jussi01> micman: ok :D
[09:55] <micman> jussi01,  i m signing out . c u later.
[09:57] <marco__> how can i configure konversation that it doesn't open automatically when i start kubuntu?
[09:57] <Cuito> when they say boot liveCD they do mean cd /***/***/?
[09:58] <nster> marco__ do you leave it open when you restart or shut down kubuntu?
[09:59] <marco__> mmm....i don't know....
[09:59] <marco__> i should restart
[09:59] <marco__> ?
[09:59] <nster> what ive learned is that when you leave a program running like the console next time you restart it will reopen
[09:59] <marco__> should i?(sorrY)
[09:59] <nster> so close it first then restart
[09:59] <nster> see if it reopens
[09:59] <stdin> Cuito: they mean the CD you installed from
[09:59] <marco__> ahhh
[09:59] <marco__> no no
[10:00] <marco__> I always close the program, and when i restart it open.....
[10:00] <nster> hmm
[10:00] <marco__> automaticallu
[10:00] <marco__> y
[10:01] <lupul> hi. is there a command line mp3 player?
[10:01] <lupul> with sound
[10:01] <nster> lupul
[10:01] <nster> sudo apt-get install cplay
[10:01] <nster> also
[10:01] <nster> sudo apt-get install mpg123 for mp3 support
[10:01] <stdin> lupul: mplayer
[10:01] <lupul> if i have libxine isn't it good?
[10:01] <AutoMatriX> marco__: you did not leave the live-cd in your driver, did you ?
[10:01] <nster> cplay uses mpg123
[10:02] <marco__> auto i didn't
[10:02] <nster> its actually mpg123-alsa if you use alsa
[10:02] <lupul> ok. got it. thank you
[10:02] <lupul> and stdin
[10:02] <nster> np
[10:03] <marco__> ok, thank you, you tried to help me..... byebye
[10:03] <Kprofthreat> /
[10:04] <Kprofthreat> =/
[10:08] <kharloss> hi there. after 2 month  i have a problem with my ubuntu server. connection is verry slow , even between my computer and my server . both are in the same room, conected at the same switch . any solution  ?
[10:20] <fulgidus> Salve!
[10:26] <crazy_bus> I've got a folder full of .tif files that I want to convert to small png files.  Is there a program or script to easily do this?
[10:30] <crocodile> how does konversation decide what color to assign to a nicknamee?
[10:31] <crocodile> there are 7 color settings, just it just pick a random one for each nick?
[10:34] <epimeth> crocodile: I think so
[10:35] <crocodile> ok, trying to work out some kind of a less rainbow theme here
[10:48] <Neil-> www.phoenixphotography.org crashes firefox for me, with nothing in terminal, but konq is fine.. any ideas whats up?
[11:19] <crocodile> at the 2:20 mark of this video (a beryl demo) you see the guy playing with his program launcher.  What launcher program is it?  http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7QraljRfM
[11:19] <ardchoille> crocodile: What does it look like?
[11:20] <crocodile> a launcher program but when hes clicking and dragging the icons in it they bounce back into place
[11:21] <jussi01> crocodile: looks a bit like AWN
[11:22] <jussi01> hang on, might be kiba dock...
[11:22] <jussi01> yeah, kiba dock i think
[11:23] <crocodile> ok thanks
[11:23] <crocodile> how does AWN compare to it?
[11:24] <jussi01> crocodile: awn is not really a launcher, its a window manager,...
[11:24] <jussi01> AWM
[11:24] <jussi01> sorry
[11:26] <crdlb> AWN is both a lanucher bar and a taskbar
[11:26] <crdlb> "avant window navigator"
[11:26] <crdlb> launcher*
[11:26] <jussi01> yeah... something like that... i dont use it
[11:27] <crdlb> it also uses gconf
[11:27] <grul> !mp3
[11:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:28] <crocodile> crdlb - sounds like it might conflict with kde, or do you not even use kde?
[11:28] <crdlb> it shouldn't conflict, but it'll pull in a lot of gnome and might look a bit out of place
[11:30] <ksivaji> Jucato hi
[11:30] <W1ZrD> How (if possible) can I hide/unhide folders in my home directory?
[11:31] <se7en> ls -a to see them all
[11:31] <Jucato> hi
[11:31] <W1ZrD> se7en: I know that, but how can I toggle and make then visible/hidden?
[11:31] <Jucato> W1ZrD: View -> Show hidden files in Konqueror?
[11:32] <W1ZrD> Jucato: yes
[11:32] <W1ZrD> Jucato: But still, it does not show the,
[11:32] <W1ZrD> *them
[11:33] <Jucato> what do you mean? It will show hidden files and folders
[11:34] <W1ZrD> Jucato: sorry, what I mean is, that the folders are hidden (I can see them in Konq) but question is: how can I make certain folders hidden/unhidden?
[11:34] <jussi01> remove the . before them?
[11:34] <Jucato> W1ZrD: rename the folder/file removing the . at the beginning. BUT! do not do that for folder/files that are hidden to begin with
[11:35] <W1ZrD> Jucato: Reason is, that there are some hidden folders which I need access to from other programs (thoose programs cannot find hidden files)
[11:35] <Jucato> everything directly under your /home/username that are originally hidden need to stay that way
[11:35] <Jucato> W1ZrD: what programs?
[11:35] <W1ZrD> Jucato: It's one for instance, called PakScape running under Wine, that can't see hidden folders/files
[11:36] <W1ZrD> But I'll try to simply remove the . and see if that works
[11:36] <Jucato> I don't know PakScape, but like I said, do not unhide hidden files or folders. they are like that for a reason. and programs are configured to look for them as hidden files/folders
[11:36] <Jucato> ok.. if you really want to mess your system that bad....
[11:37] <W1ZrD> Jucato: I know what you mean, on the other hand, I see no reason for this specific folder to be hidden
[11:37] <W1ZrD> I'll give it a go :)
[11:37] <jussi01> W1ZrD: make sure you back up first
[11:37] <Jucato> W1ZrD: just because you see no reason doesn't mean it's not meant to be hidden
[11:37] <Jucato> but your call
[11:38] <W1ZrD> Jucato: True, but isn't it just enough to re-name it back if it doesn't work?
[11:40] <W1ZrD> Jucato: Seems to do the trick with that specific folder, wouldn't want to try it on system folders though. Thank's for the help, I'm off :)
[11:41] <ksivaji> "apt-get install wine" where this command will store files of wine
[11:42] <frojnd> does Bluez support 2.0. USB adapters ??
[11:45] <jussi01> ksivaji: .wine
[11:46] <ksivaji> jussi01 in which directory it will be stored
[11:46] <jussi01> ksivaji: .wine
[11:47] <jussi01> ksivaji: thats where all the config files will be,
[11:47] <jussi01> once you run winecfg
[11:51] <ksivaji> jussi01 "sudo apt-get install vlc" this command will download source file or some .deb file ?
[11:52] <jussi01> ksivaji: it will download and install the deb
[11:53] <ksivaji> jussi01 so i cant see source code right but i need source  code
[11:53] <jussi01> ksivaji: what do you need source code for?
[11:54] <ksivaji> jussi01 just i wnat to see
[11:54] <Jucato> ksivaji: apt-get source vlc
[11:54] <mudda_> moinsen!
[11:54] <Jucato> no sudo
[11:54] <ksivaji> jussi01 ya i got source code but it seems large 15mb
[11:54] <mudda_> ich suche so ein dock/panel....wie man es auch nennt - im mac-style. welches ist das beste?
[11:54] <jussi01> ksivaji: thats about right
[11:54] <jussi01> !de | mudda_
[11:54] <ubotu> mudda_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:56] <ksivaji>  jussi01 tell one simple software i wnat ot see its source
[11:56] <ksivaji> *want to*
[11:56] <jussi01> apt-get source hello
[11:56] <jussi01> :)
[11:57] <jussi01> ksivaji: what are you trying to do?
[11:57] <ksivaji> jussi01 i want to see source code
[11:58] <jussi01> ksivaji: yes, I understand, but _why_ do you want to see the source code?
[11:59] <ksivaji> jussi01i am an engineering student  i havent see source code of any software
[11:59] <jussi01> ksivaji: ok, well hello is about as basic as it gets
[11:59] <jussi01> so do that command i gave you earlier
[12:00] <jussi01> apt-get source hello
[12:00] <ksivaji> jussi01 just i wnat to know how it looks
[12:00] <ksivaji> E: UnaE: Unable to find a source package for hello
[12:01] <jussi01> ksivaji: do you have all the repos active?
[12:01] <ksivaji> dunno
[12:01] <ksivaji> how to check that
[12:02] <Jucato> ksivaji: in Adept, or manually check /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:02] <ardchoille> ksivaji: Here is my sources.list , it has all the official repos enabled:
[12:03] <Jucato> you need the deb-src lines enabled
[12:03] <Jucato> or check the option in Adept Manager
[12:03] <jussi01> yeah, in adept-> manage repositories, then make sure source is ticked
[12:04] <ksivaji> ok wait
[12:04] <ksivaji> !pastebin
[12:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:06] <ksivaji> jussi01     ardchoille Jucato   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26982/
[12:08] <fritz> hey, can any1 tell me how to mount a immage?
[12:10] <fritz> hey, can any1 tell me how to mount a immage?...vdi....
[12:10] <ksivaji> fritz wait
[12:11] <jussi01> !mount
[12:11] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:11] <ardchoille> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/file.iso /path/mountpoint   ?
[12:11] <hnsn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDI
[12:12] <Jucato> !ISO
[12:12] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:13] <fritz> it's not iso. it\s a hdd image from virtual box... it's .vdi
[12:14] <hnsn> vmware player?
[12:14] <fritz> it's called myxp.vdi
[12:14] <fritz> can any1 give me the command lines 4 the console
[12:14] <fritz> ?
[12:15] <fritz> i'm running windows in virtual box...perhaps how to load the other partitons in the win sistem while i'm running it?
[12:24] <ksivaji> jussi01 are u thre
[12:25] <ksivaji> jussi01 are u there
[12:25] <jussi01> ksivaji: yes..
[12:26] <jussi01> ksivaji: whats up?
[12:26] <ksivaji> onemore problem when i save text file a backup is created for that with same name i dont want that
[12:27] <jussi01> ksivaji: its normal, it will go away after a while...
[12:32] <ksivaji> jussi01 ya i got updates
[12:33] <jussi01> :)
[12:33] <ksivaji>  apt-get source hello where hello will be saved
[12:34] <fritz> boy...this help channel is not what it used 2 be
[12:34] <fritz> more likely like the channel of unanswered questions  ^.^
[12:35] <ksivaji> jussi01 E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.iitm.ac.in_ubuntu_dists_feisty_restricted_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[12:36] <ksivaji> jussi01 are u there
[12:37] <ksivaji> jussi01
[12:41] <ksivaji> whether wget provides resume supports ?
[12:42] <ManiDhillon> !wine amd64
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wine amd64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <ManiDhillon> !wine
[12:42] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:44] <ManiDhillon> After installing WINE hich command should i issue? Is this "winecfg" ?
[12:45] <ManiDhillon> After installing WINE hich command should i issue? Is this "winecfg" ?
[12:46] <ksivaji> ManiDhillon http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_Install_Wine
[12:47] <ksivaji> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_run_programs_in_Wine
[12:48] <ManiDhillon> ksivaji But i've done all this. Now when i click on any EXE file i got logged out!
[12:49] <ksivaji> ManiDhillon try "wine /exepath/file.exe" in terminal
[12:51] <ManiDhillon> ksivaji I've even tried that before but i logged out each time! May it is due to 64 bit Kubuntu!
[12:51] <ksivaji> ManiDhillon sorry i dont know for me it works fine
[12:52] <ksivaji> ManiDhillon have you tried #ubuntu
[12:52] <ManiDhillon> ksivaji Are you using Kubuntu?
[12:52] <ksivaji> ues
[12:52] <ksivaji> yes
[12:53] <ksivaji> 64bit pc but i386 kubuntu
[12:53] <ManiDhillon> ksivaji Can you send me your  sources.list file?
[12:53] <ksivaji> ya
[12:54] <ManiDhillon> Okay then send me your sources.list file at   mdwaps@gmail.com
[12:55] <ksivaji> ManiDhillon http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26984/
[12:56] <ManiDhillon> ksivaji What is this bro?
[12:58] <ksivaji>  ManiDhillon where is it bro i dont know
[12:58] <ksivaji> ManiDhillon i cant receive that file why
[12:59] <ManiDhillon> ksivaji Its an example that you send me your source file directoly.
[01:00] <ksivaji> ManiDhillon take from that link and paste
[01:01] <ManiDhillon> ksivaji Okay thanks anyway!
[01:02] <gemidjy> is there front end for editing fstab, a friend of mine asks he needs to set mount-point for another hdd but preferably via GUI app.
[01:03] <t1g3r> hey guys just installed kubuntu on me lappy
[01:03] <ksivaji> fine
[01:03] <t1g3r> tryna connect it to my pc so it can share the internet connection on the pc...to download and install packages
[01:03] <t1g3r> pc has windows on it, any idea where i can start?
[01:03] <t1g3r> linked them both up with a crossover cable
[01:04] <ksivaji> t1g3r use switch and connect via cross cable
[01:05] <gemidjy> t1g3r: you want one of the computers to be Router?
[01:05] <t1g3r> yea actually thatd be nice, the pc
[01:05] <t1g3r> well i dont have a switch or a hub u see
[01:05] <gemidjy> then set the IP of the other computers and as router IP set the IP of the PC
[01:06] <t1g3r> that an idea
[01:06] <ManiDhillon> I'm gonna reinstall WINE! May be this time it will work.
[01:06] <t1g3r> the pc is connected to the net via a usb modem
[01:08] <t1g3r> can someone give me the link to the wiki page for kubuntu pls?
[01:09] <ksivaji> t1g3r do u have cross cable with you
[01:12] <ManiDhillon> !limewire
[01:12] <ManiDhillon> !limewire
[01:12] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[01:12] <ManiDhillon> !LimeWire
[01:12] <t1g3r> yes ksivaji i have a xover cable connected between them atm
[01:12] <ksivaji> !botabuse | ManiDhillon
[01:13] <ubotu> ManiDhillon: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:13] <ksivaji> t1g3r both the system are switch on or not ?
[01:14] <t1g3r> no they are connected ad hoc
[01:15] <ksivaji> t1g3r try #ubuntu
[01:15] <t1g3r> fair enough
[01:15] <t1g3r> cheers
[01:20] <Entheogen> guys can I "make" OS X-like KControl in distro other than kubuntu?
[01:22] <fdoving> Entheogen: yes, just use system settings. it's in KDEs svn.
[01:24] <Entheogen> it means i have to compile kde from scratch?
[01:24] <fdoving> Entheogen: no, you might need to compile a simple app from scratch.
[01:25] <Entheogen> thanks
[01:26] <AokiShinya> Hi. I'm wondering... How can I check if there's a missing driver I need to install using kubuntu?
[01:35] <Pupeno> !mp3
[01:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:42] <Contrast> Greets, everyone...
[01:42] <Contrast> Does anyone know how to disable the sound system from the commandline?
[01:47] <Pupeno> !mp3
[01:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:55] <omega__> hy to all
[01:55] <chrisloukas> heloo
[01:55] <chrisloukas> hello
[01:56] <omega__> can anybody tell me how can instal my nvidia video card
[01:56] <omega__> ?
[01:56] <SlimeyPete> use adept to install nvidia-glx.
[01:57] <SlimeyPete> assuming you want 3D support
[01:57] <omega__> yes
[01:58] <omega__> tanks
[01:58] <omega__> slimey
[01:58] <SlimeyPete> no problem
[02:02] <omega__> i have another question
[02:03] <omega__> i am new in kubuntu
[02:03] <omega__> i hope i not gone upset u slimey
[02:04] <omega__> my amarok   player don't play my mp3 file
[02:04] <omega__> can u tel me why?
[02:05] <Sanne> !mp3 | omega__
[02:05] <ubotu> omega__: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:07] <omega__> tanks again
[02:08] <Sanne> omega__: good luck :)
[02:18] <omega__> and how can i get beryl :)
[02:18] <SlimeyPete> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu
[02:18] <Jucato> !beryl | omega__
[02:18] <ubotu> omega__: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:18] <SlimeyPete> just bear in mind that kubuntu uses adept rather than synaptic
[02:20] <|Karti|> omega__: Type sudo apt-get install beryl-manager into a a konsole and it should work
[02:22] <|Karti|> brb
[02:22] <tomaz> hey, i'm trying to follow the steps on techbase.kde.org to start trying to build from svn
[02:22] <tomaz> and there's one step that asks me to copy my .bashrc , but i have no bashrc in my home directory.
[02:22] <tomaz> what do i need to do ?
[02:24] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: you wont see the .bashrc  file by default
[02:24] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: there whats called a "dot file" or hidden file
[02:24] <tomaz> i know galore
[02:24] <tomaz> but on bash, i write 'locate bashrc'
[02:24] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: if you login to the user account a bashrc file is created from a default copy
[02:25] <tomaz> and it locates all bashrc from my previous kubuntu installation (6.10)
[02:25] <tomaz> but not from my 7.04
[02:25] <tomaz> if i write 'vim .bashrc' , it creates an empty file
[02:25] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: duh
[02:25] <tomaz> ?
[02:26] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: vim is just an editor it doesnt do anything but edit text files
[02:26] <tomaz> and bashrc is a text file
[02:26] <tomaz> so , if i ask it to open .bashrc , and it opens a blank document
[02:26] <tomaz> it's because it doesn't exist.
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> tomaz: I see what you are saying....I always had a bashrc file by default
[02:27] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: no if you try open .bashrc  "dont forget the dot"  it will open the correct file 1 if you in your home directory for that user 2. it exists otherwise it just opens a balnk
[02:27] <Linux_Galore> blank file*
[02:28] <tomaz> tomaz@shiva:~$ vim .bashrc
[02:28] <tomaz> = blank file
[02:28] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: vim ~/.bashrc
[02:29] <tomaz> but im on ~!
[02:29] <tomaz> tomaz@shiva:~$ vim ~/.bashrc = blank file too
[02:29] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: if there is no bashrc a user hasnt logged into that account
[02:29] <tomaz> i'm logged now!
[02:30] <tomaz> it's my primary account.
[02:30] <Linux_Galore> ls .bashrc*   .bashrc
[02:30] <Linux_Galore> ls .bashrc*
[02:30] <Linux_Galore> .bashrc
[02:31] <Linux_Galore> oops
[02:31] <tomaz> ok.. i will paste the contents of 'locate bashrc' on pastebin
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: bash when its run for the "first time" with any new user account install some defauls file in the home directory, they are always there
[02:32] <tomaz> i will take a screenshoot, if you don't belive me =p
[02:32] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: you can stand on your head, Ive admined 1,000's of machines and its always there
[02:33] <tomaz> http://pastebin.ca/587263
[02:33] <tomaz> see the pastbin
[02:34] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: run  sudo updatedb
[02:34] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: then do locate .bashrc
[02:34] <tomaz> i did that 5 minutes ago Galore =/
[02:35] <tomaz> there's a way to 'recreate' the bashrc?
[02:36] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: looks like you have deleted it logout and back in a new one is created
[02:37] <omega__> can u tell me about the decoders for kafeine,slimey?
[02:37] <tomaz> the one thing that i'v done, is that when i installed i swapped the partitions (/home and /data), , so after botting for the 1st time, i edited the /etc/fstab to swap them both
[02:37] <SlimeyPete> omega__: sorry, I don't use kaffeine
[02:38] <tomaz> and after that i dont have my .bashrc, the thing is, i'v turned the power down and up and logged many times , and the bashrc isn't created at all.
[02:38] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: just copy one of the other user account bashrc files over then type  chown username .bashrc
[02:39] <Linux_Galore> tomaz: they are all the same unless you manually edit them
[02:40] <tomaz> ah, thanks. ;)
[02:44] <Zeata> jmd hier der mir bei meiner ersten linux erfahrung helfen kann?
[02:45] <paolo>  hi. where's the file associated to the command "history"? thnks
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> paolo: .basj_history
[02:45] <SlimeyPete> paolo: ~/.bash_history
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> *.bash_history
[02:46] <kukukuku> hi
[02:47] <Pupeno> Does anybody know how to make the F1-F12 the default keys in MacBookPro, and the multimedia/function keys require pressing the fn key?
[02:47] <kukukuku> can some pl tell me how to detect motherboard my computer is running on
[02:47] <kukukuku> dems ??
[02:47] <kukukuku> desmg ?
[02:47] <Pupeno> kukukuku: what do you mean by detect?
[02:47] <kukukuku> i need to what is model of mother board my hardware vendor has given me
[02:48] <Pupeno> kukukuku: I think the easiest way would be opening the case and looking inside, I've never found a way to do it in software (although it may exists, of course).
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> kukukuku: sometimes lshw does it.
[02:51] <micman> Jucato:  i got ncurses lib error when i install prozilla
[02:51] <Jucato> micman: sorry I don't know anything about that
[02:54] <micman> i got ncurses lib error when i install prozilla  is there anyone to help me
[02:55] <Sanne> micman: what error? (paste to paste.ubuntu-nl.org if multiple lines)
[02:55] <micman> configure: error: **A (n)curses library was not found. The program needs ncurses to run, Ncurses is freely available at : ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu **
[02:56] <Pupeno> micman: install libncurses-dev or something like that.
[02:56] <Sanne> micman: so you're compiling? If so, you need some *-dev libs.
[02:56] <Sanne> :)
[02:57] <micman> Pupeno ya i am downloading that
[02:57] <Sanne> micman: don't, just install the package from the ubuntu repositories
[02:57] <grul> !mp3
[02:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:58] <micman> Sanne ok what else to be done
[02:59] <omega__>  computers
[02:59] <Pupeno> micman: never install anything that is not packaged unless you know what you are doing or wish to learn.
[02:59] <Sanne> micman: you never should install software from the net if it's already available in the repositories, precompiled for you and fitting into your system. How do you install normally, with adept, synaptic, or apt-get on the command line?
[03:00] <omega__> how can i share my data in the network whit my friends
[03:01] <omega__> it's my personal network
[03:01] <omega__> the others have win sp
[03:02] <Sanne> micman: ok, so I'll tell you for the command line. (I hope it's the correct package) try first: sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[03:02] <SlimeyPete> omega__: you can use windows file sharing (samba). Try searching ubuntuguide.comor the ubuntu forums.
[03:02] <SlimeyPete> !samba
[03:02] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:03] <micman> Sanne ya i done that
[03:03] <Sanne> micman: ah, good. Do you still get the error when configuring prozilla?
[03:03] <omega__> thanks to all
[03:04] <micman> Sanne thank you i installed that
[03:04] <micman> thanks a lot
[03:04] <Sanne> micman: you might want to bookmark this page and give it a read, when you have time: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement
[03:04] <micman> ok
[03:05] <Sanne> micman: ah, so it worked? That's nice :)
[03:05] <micman> Sanne because of you
[03:05] <micman> ok bye
[03:05] <Sanne> micman: glad to help :)
[03:05] <Sanne> bye
[03:06] <BluesKaj> !prozilla
[03:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about prozilla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> omega__: if you only want to shareyour data with freinds... you can use kpf
[03:07] <grul> !love
[03:07] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> what the.......
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> it should have ....... at the end
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> omega__: you still here?
[03:13] <omega__> yes nosrednaekim
[03:13] <deloun> Hi, I installed kde4base-dev but it wont start the toolbar shows up first and after that all turns black and it returns to the login screen, is this a known problemor does it work fine with any of you?
[03:13] <omega__> i'm still here
[03:14] <gnomefreak> deloun: what do you need the -dev package for?
[03:14] <deloun> to try out kde4, it's mentioned on the kubuntu page
[03:15] <deloun> gnomefreak: look here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php
[03:15] <gnomefreak> ah thats right it is needed to remove the older qt packages
[03:15] <kukukuku> is there any graphical partition mounter on kubuntu ?
[03:15] <gnomefreak> deloun: im a few steps ahead of you but thank you :)
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> omega__: you can use kpf if you just want to share files on your computer with your friends
[03:16] <deloun> gnomefreak: just to show you what i was talking about
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> kukukuku: yep... system settings-> hardware-> partition editor
[03:16] <gnomefreak> deloun: what one of the 2 last bullets did you use?
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> omega__: its far easier than samba
[03:17] <deloun> gnomefreak: The last one; I added it as a session
[03:17] <deloun> And put the export lines in the kde4 bin
[03:17] <feierfox> hello
[03:18] <feierfox> how to activate the ATI driver in kubuntu?
[03:18] <feierfox> the wiki shows only the way for ubuntu
[03:18] <gnomefreak> deloun: that would be why. i personally after testing dont feel its ready for full X yet as alot of things are still broken.
[03:18] <deloun> feierfox: the same as in ubuntu
[03:18] <gnomefreak> feierfox: its same
[03:18] <nosrednaekim> omega__: http://nosrednaekim.wordpress.com/2007/06/23/easy-cross-platform-file-sharing-with-kpf/
[03:19] <feierfox> i cant find the issue in the menue
[03:19] <|Robbe|> Is it possible to reinstall over a feisty 64bit with a feisty 32bit, while keeping the settings ?
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> feierfox: in order to mimic ubuntu's version.... you have to install "restricted-manager"
[03:19] <gnomefreak> Zechs: no
[03:19] <feierfox> oh ha
[03:19] <Zechs> gnomefreak : complete reinstall ?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> Zechs: backup ~/ and see if you can use them but you would either need a new partiton to install to reinstall over 64bit or vmware or chroot
[03:21] <gnomefreak> Zechs: maybe you can install the 386 kernel but there is no telling if anything will work since all your libs are for 64
[03:22] <binks> Ryiel did you help me with kaffeine b4
[03:22] <JEANMASS> hi
[03:22] <JEANMASS> since i updated amarok with backport rep
[03:23] <Zechs> gnomefreak : I've tried installing those libs, but it just won't accept running both, kinda sad cause it prevents me from using firefox with flash and playing alpha centauri
[03:23] <JEANMASS> i can't listen to lastfm radios
[03:23] <Zechs> gnomefreak : I'll just reinstall, it'll take some time to setup again, but it'll be beter that way
[03:23] <gnomefreak> Zechs: use gnash it works great here, i have backport for newest gnash 0.8.0
[03:24] <Zechs> gnomefreak : I've tried it, doesn't work here
[03:24] <JEANMASS> any idea?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> Zechs: than you didnt get it from my repo ;)
[03:24] <Zechs> jeanmass: do you have the right ports open ?
[03:24] <Zechs> gnomefreak : what repo is that ?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> !moztest | Zechs
[03:25] <ubotu> Zechs: The Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution. Please report bugs found from these packages to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives/Bugs.
[03:25] <gnomefreak> Zechs: give me a minute and ill get you somewhere else to get it from without updating everything
[03:25] <JEANMASS> Zechs: it worked before upgrading
[03:26] <Zechs> gnomefreak : ok, thanks, that would be great :-)
[03:26] <gnomefreak> Zechs: get it from http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/gnash-feisty/ its the same build but prevents you from updating alot of the testing stuff
[03:27] <gnomefreak> Zechs: you want gnash and mozilla-plugin-gnash
[03:27] <gnomefreak> you might need the libs as well
[03:27] <JEANMASS> i get this error msg
[03:27] <JEANMASS> No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported. Network failures are other possible causes.
[03:27] <Zechs> jeanmass : and there were no port changes of that program, and you configured it right ?
[03:28] <JEANMASS> i havent touched it since the upgrade
[03:28] <JEANMASS> however to be able to use the backport repos
[03:28] <Zechs> gnomefreak : I'll wget them, so that the dependancies come with it as well, or just get it trough the adapt manager :-)
[03:29] <enzo_> Is there an issue with Beryl on Feisty?
[03:29] <enzo_> I keep getting a white screen
[03:29] <Milux> hello, i've a problem with codific UTF-8, i can't see ... from other user. What i do? I use kvirc 3.2.4
[03:29] <JEANMASS> i need Updates and Security repos
[03:30] <JEANMASS> i am not sure if those too are available
[03:30] <feierfox> ok, i installed the restricted-manager, but where is it in my menue?
[03:30] <Milux> nobody use kvirc?
[03:31] <JEANMASS> security is important security updates in the update tabs in adept repositories manager?
[03:31] <Zechs> Milux : I am right now
[03:32] <Zechs> jeanmass : have you refreshed your repos, and checked for updates ?  if there are new ones they should pop up
[03:32] <BluesKaj> kvirc is ok, just a bit confusing for these old eyes ...graphics are too busy
[03:32] <Zechs> jeanmass : if you've enabled the universe stuff ofcourse
[03:32] <Zechs> blueskaj : in what way ?
[03:33] <Zechs> blueskaj : do you also go by the name Blue-Sky by any chance ?
[03:33] <JEANMASS> yes
[03:33] <BluesKaj> more like blues-ky
[03:34] <BluesKaj> a play on words , i suppose, Zechs
[03:34] <adaptr> or pune
[03:34] <Zechs> jeanmass : well then I guess there either aren't any new ones or you should add a repos list like freshrpms that has them on board
[03:34] <Zechs> BluesKaj : hehe, nice play :-)
[03:35] <Zechs> BluesKaj : thought we might have met on a board called userbase, that's why I asked
[03:35] <JEANMASS> but i've just installed the latest version of amarok!
[03:35] <BluesKaj> yeah, i find all fonts , colours, differnt graphics distracting on kvirc
[03:36] <BluesKaj> no Zechs , i'm a relative newb to linux ...been only a yr or so
[03:36] <Zechs> jeanmass : sorry, got a bit distracted, perhaps you might try flipping your security and seeing if it affects it, which would indicate your sollution
[03:37] <JEANMASS> flipping my sec??
[03:37] <JEANMASS> how ?
[03:37] <Zechs> BluesKaj : I've been using it for a couple of years, and I wouldn't call myself an expert either ;-)
[03:37] <Zechs> BluesKaj : You just learn along the way
[03:38] <Zechs> BluesKaj : I guess Kvirc just has to grow on you, like kde :-)
[03:38] <Zechs> jeanmass : selinux ?
[03:38] <BluesKaj> yup, that's why i hang out here a lot ... old , retired and still learning :)
[03:38] <JEANMASS> selinux????
[03:38] <JEANMASS> chinessE?
[03:39] <Zechs> jeanmass : selinux = the module that enables your security,
[03:39] <Zechs> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SELinux
[03:39] <JEANMASS> i dont think i ve it
[03:39] <JEANMASS> is default?
[03:40] <Zechs> BluesKaj : learning ain't that bad, it keeps you from forgetting (too much)
[03:40] <kukukuku> is there any graphical partition mounter on kubuntu ?
[03:40] <kukukuku> is there any graphical partition mounter on kubuntu ?
[03:41] <Zechs> kukuku : QT
[03:41] <kukukuku> qt c++ lib ??
[03:41] <Zechs> jeanmass : thought so, but I'm not so sure, you wanna browse through the faq, I might be confussing server and desktop environments
[03:42] <Zechs> kukuku : otherwise try gparted, it's for gnome, but works quite nicely as well under kde
[03:43] <Zechs> kukuku : ps do you know this one ? http://www.kde-apps.org/
[03:44] <BluesKaj> kukukuku, what about sys/settings/advanced/disk&filesystems/admin mode
[03:45] <JEANMASS> thanx for the help
[03:45] <JEANMASS> cheers
[03:47] <Zechs> kukukuku : kdesu qtparted and/or gksudo gparted
[03:47] <Zechs> kukukuku : sudo apt-get install qtparted
[03:49] <Pupeno2> !mp3
[03:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:55] <enzo_> How do you restart KDE in command line?
[03:56] <enzo_> I am trying to kill beryl, but sudo killall beryl keeps me in beryl's desktop manager
[03:56] <enzo_> I can't do anything with white desktops
[03:57] <fritz> where can i get some kick-ass themes for kubuntu?
[03:57] <Zechs> http://www.kde-look.org/
[03:57] <pag> fritz, kde-look.org ?
[03:57] <fritz> and how do you install them? :-/
[03:58] <Zechs> download them, and add them trought the graphical interface
[03:58] <pag> !theme
[03:58] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:58] <Zechs> their are podcasts that also explain this, you might want to google them up
[03:59] <BluesKaj> someone was mentioning KPF as a easy way to share files over the net with friends , ..synaptic says it's installed , but it's not available using all the usual methods to call it up ...any ideas or suggestions ?
[03:59] <fritz> where is the themes buton on kubuntu? ^.^
[04:00] <Zechs> check your system configuration
[04:00] <BluesKaj> fritz, look in system settings/appearance
[04:01] <jhutchins> !changethemes
[04:01] <ubotu> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[04:02] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, do you know anything about kpf ?
[04:02] <fritz> isn't there a way to load it all at once?
[04:03] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: sorry, never heard of it.
[04:03] <BluesKaj> ok np :)
[04:04] <omega__> hy again to all
[04:04] <draik> !beryl
[04:04] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:04] <fritz> isn't there a way to load it all at once?
[04:05] <pag> fritz, do you want to download *all* the themes from kde-look?
[04:06] <fritz> no, i downloaded the theme
[04:06] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: dpkg -L kpf -- too bad you can't do rpm -qd kpf and find the docs.
[04:06] <fritz> and want to set it all up at once
[04:06] <fritz> colors, wallpaper..windows style:P
[04:06] <jhutchins> fritz: Did you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:06] <BluesKaj> thx jhutchins, i could use alien , but i don't need it that badly :)
[04:07] <jhutchins> fritz: or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[04:07] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: alien probably wouldn't help.
[04:09] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, strange that kpf is listed as installed on synpatic tho
[04:09] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: dpkg -L kpf
[04:10] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: It's fairly common that servers which can provide serious systems vulnerability require that you track down the config file and take some extra steps to start them.
[04:11] <dale> Hello
[04:11] <BluesKaj> I think it's part of the file sharing server, ...did a konq search and it looks like kpf is "part" of the the network file server
[04:12] <ubuntu_> hi, I userd kubuntu livecd to boot in a notebook that is with some dab blocks, The qtparted see the nfts partiton, but I cant mount it. Any recommendation
[04:12] <draik> Anyone here having issues with their nvidia driver?
[04:12] <draik> I can't seem to get the smooth effects ever since the upgrade from edgy to feisty
[04:17] <BluesKaj> eye candy ... far more trouble than it's worth
[04:18] <draik> BluesKaj: I can see that now, but I didn't have this issue with Edgy
[04:18] <ubuntu_> hi, I userd kubuntu livecd to boot in a notebook that is with some dab blocks, The qtparted see the nfts partiton, but I cant mount it. Any recommendation
[04:19] <draik> !mount
[04:19] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:21] <ubuntu_> tks
[04:26] <BluesKaj> !DiskMounter
[04:26] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[04:29] <draik> How do you do the video test again?
[04:29] <draik> I forgot the command
[04:29] <draik> It's the one with the 3 gears
[04:30] <BluesKaj> glxgears
[04:30] <draik> Tried it. Not it
[04:30] <draik> seems that I'm missing glx
[04:31] <draik> :(
[04:31] <aabrahao> mount code 32, mount failure
[04:32] <BluesKaj> draik for fglrx drivers it's fgl_glxgears in the terminal
[04:32] <draik> Not that either
[04:33] <draik> command not found
[04:33] <BluesKaj> sudo aptitude install glxgears
[04:33] <Arwen> BlueDevil, that's 'apt-get isntall mesa-utils'
[04:34] <Arwen> apt-get install mesa-utils even
[04:34] <draik> can't find package glxgears
[04:34] <Arwen> draik, the package is "mesa-utils"
[04:34] <BluesKaj> yup, that's it
[04:34] <draik> mesa-utils is already the newest version
[04:34] <Arwen> then you should have glxgears
[04:35] <Dr_willis> fglx_gears i thought
[04:35] <Dr_willis> glx<tab> --->  glxdemo   glxgears  glxheads  glxinfo
[04:35] <BluesKaj> draik, are you typing in the terminal/konsole
[04:35] <draik> BluesKaj: Yes
[04:36] <BluesKaj> what graphics driver/card , draik ?
[04:36] <draik> nVidia GeForce 5700LE
[04:36] <draik> 256MB
[04:36] <draik> if that matters
[04:36] <Arwen> draik, not really
[04:36] <Arwen> anyway, why are we discussing glxgears? it's not a benchmark.
[04:37] <martik> hi everybody
[04:37] <BluesKaj> then glxgears should be it , not the fglrx version
[04:37] <Minataku> Morning, Dr_willis
[04:37] <draik> Arwen: I can't get Beryl to work and I don't have the drivers as I used to with Edgy (Feisty now)
[04:37] <Arwen> I mean, I get 9000 fps in glxgears... but I get 30fps in quake, so...
[04:37] <Arwen> draik, are there any errors? sorry to interrupt.
[04:38] <draik> Arwen: No. It just turns my screen all white. I get nothing
[04:38] <Arwen> ah, that bug :-)
[04:38] <draik> I had to uninstall beryl just to get a usable GUI again
[04:38] <Dr_willis> 16838 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3367.582 FPS
[04:38] <Arwen> draik, set your render path to copy, or use "beryl --force aiglx"
[04:39] <draik> Arwen: Do what/where?
[04:39] <Arwen> ................
[04:39] <BluesKaj> fgl_glxfears on ati cards gives a rotating cube with 3 rotating gears on each side ...dunno what glxgears does on nvidia
[04:39] <BluesKaj> err fgl_glxgears :)
[04:39] <Arwen> 25030 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5005.975 FPS -- glxgears is useless
[04:39] <Dr_willis> glxgears is just the old fps tester tool
[04:39] <Dr_willis> Better test then running.. say.. gltron :)
[04:39] <draik> Arwen: what do you need me to do
[04:40] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I'm sure it's far easier in non-ultra-simple distros
[04:40] <Pupeno> glxgears is not a performance testing tool.
[04:40] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  aint you just a leetist. :)
[04:40] <Arwen> draik... open a terminal, run "beryl --force aiglx"
[04:40] <pacman> any idea what I need to do to get my seagate external hard drive to work?  I'm not seeing it anywhere on my box
[04:40] <Arwen> or just use compiz, BERYL IS FUCKING DEAD
[04:40] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  its far easier to just not be addicted to silly eyecandy. ;)
[04:40] <draik> Arwen: I removed beryl
[04:40] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Arwen
[04:40] <ubotu> Arwen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:40] <Arwen> yes yes, sorry, geez...
[04:40] <draik> Install beryl again?
[04:40] <PriceChild> Arwen, compiz fusion is alive though
[04:40] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Like I am as well :D
[04:40] <Minataku> I use Fluxbox
[04:41] <BluesKaj> the fgl_glxgears test is for 3D and DRI on ati cards ...which is required to run apps like google earth etc
[04:41] <Dr_willis> I cant even keep up with the Beryl/Glx/compwiz stuff...
[04:41] <Arwen> forget it, ask someone else
[04:41] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I don't bother with any of it
[04:41] <Arwen> fgl_glxgears is ATI's take on glxgears... which is just as useless
[04:41] <Minataku> I'm of the mind that the WM should just manage windows
[04:41] <Minataku> Period
[04:41] <Minataku> Well, and launch apps
[04:41] <Arwen> Minataku, compiz does manage windows!
[04:41] <Arwen> it just manages them in a prettier way!
[04:42] <Minataku> I feel the UI should do what it needs to do while staying out of the way
[04:42] <Dr_willis> like DOS! :)
[04:42] <Minataku> Window decorations, slit with clock
[04:42] <Minataku> That's it
[04:43] <Arwen> Minataku, hint: compiz/beryl are FASTER than metacity/kwin
[04:43] <draik> well, I ran what Arwen said, but I can't use beryl it goes back to KDE.
[04:43] <BluesKaj> Arwen, not useless, 3D and DRI is a requirement to run google earth and other graphically intense apps
[04:43] <Minataku> Arwen: Not here they're not
[04:43] <Arwen> BluesKaj, no, but fgl_glxgears is useless
[04:43] <Minataku> They're 1000x slower
[04:43] <Arwen> Minataku, they're FASTER.
[04:43] <Minataku> Arwen: No, they are NOT.
[04:43] <Arwen> hint: they're 3d *accelerated*
[04:43] <Arwen> metacity and kwin use software rendering to draw stuff
[04:44] <Minataku> Arwen: Hint: I DON'T HAVE 3D ACCELERATION
[04:44] <Arwen> then go buy a computer!
[04:44] <Arwen> *duh*
[04:44] <BluesKaj> well Arwen, it's an indicator that your drivers are up to snuff .
[04:44] <PriceChild> Lets all calm down please....
[04:44] <Arwen> yes, let's
[04:44] <Arwen> Minataku, and hint: you're in the minority
[04:44] <Minataku> I have a Trident card, there's hardly even Windows drivers for it
[04:45] <Dr_willis> with tv tuner even; :)
[04:45] <Minataku> Dr_willis: 1. Laptop. 2. No ATI.
[04:45] <aabrahao> ans stupid question. All the changes that I[m doing wull be list, because I'm using a live cd in a cdrw, right?
[04:45] <Minataku> And FYI, X11 drawing methods are extremely fast on this system
[04:45] <Arwen> Dr_willis, All in Wonder? lol...
[04:45] <Minataku> Dr_willis: :P
[04:45] <BluesKaj> Minataku, what brand pc or di you drop it in yerself ?
[04:45] <Dr_willis> Arwen,  yep - had it for years.
[04:45] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Older Toshiba laptop
[04:45] <Arwen> Minataku, start shoving moving windows around in circles, they *should* tear
[04:45] <Minataku> 2003
[04:46] <Minataku> Nice, powerful P4 but a lousy video card
[04:46] <Arwen> P4 != powerful, lol
[04:46] <Dr_willis> compared to my Pent3 laptop.. yes. it is.
[04:46] <Arwen> and wow, did Intel graphics not exist then?
[04:46] <Minataku> Arwen: Please shut up, your input is not wanted
[04:46] <Arwen> Minataku, Please shut up, your input is not wanted
[04:46] <PriceChild> Minataku, pm me please.
[04:46] <Dr_willis> I got a Pent 1 - 100 laptop also..
[04:47] <BluesKaj> any word on the next Kubuntu having better support for 64bit hardware ?
[04:47] <Arwen> BluesKaj, define "better". It runs on it, is that not enough?
[04:48] <PanzerMKZ> you compare hardware but do you really use that old hardware
[04:48] <Arwen> nope, we're just reminiscing
[04:48] <Minataku> This is my current system
[04:49] <PanzerMKZ> I have here a p3 450. in use and running 24/7
[04:49] <Minataku> I don't buy a new computer every year
[04:49] <BluesKaj> the sound card on my amd 64 wasn't supported on the last offering as an example ...no matter what , I couldn't find drivers that worked
[04:49] <Minataku> I keep them running for at least 5 years
[04:49] <Arwen> BluesKaj, was it proprietary hardware?
[04:49] <Arwen> drivers are a known issue on 64-bit
[04:49] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Nobody's even making Windows x64 drivers
[04:50] <PanzerMKZ> later folks
[04:50] <BluesKaj> yes , onboard realtek
[04:51] <Minataku> I just realized, people talk about how "moving windows around" and such is slow
[04:51] <morg0th> hi all =)
[04:51] <Minataku> I hardly EVER move windows around
[04:51] <Minataku> I put them in one place and leave them there
[04:51] <BluesKaj> the x86 works well for this current setup , was merely curious about the next kubuntu release
[04:51] <Dr_willis> i tend to fullscreen everything and alt-tab or whatver around.
[04:52] <Minataku> I use one screen and multiple workspaces
[04:52] <Dr_willis> I gotta go get another monitor. having 2 was so handy. Id have to find a nother wall mount bracket however.
[04:52] <Minataku> Switching between workspaces causes nothing more than a momentary blip as the contents are blitted back into the VRAM
[04:52] <Dr_willis> Mounting the LCD to the wall is DARN handy :)  freed up a lot of desk space.. enough for a .. 2nd monitor. :)
[04:53] <Arwen> hehe, I run dual-head by salvaging old CRTs :-\
[04:53] <Arwen> costs a lot in energy, but oh well
[04:57] <yourfriend> minatuku >> true about winblowz drivers but who cares. lol
[04:58] <yourfriend> minatuku >> windows stinks either way
[04:58] <Arwen> your windows stink? geez, pay some guy to clean em... or even do it yourself, geez
[04:58] <Arwen> lazy bums
[04:59] <BluesKaj> real glass window so i can see out into our property and see and hear what's going on outside
[05:00] <Arwen> BlueDevil, real Glass Window? Aero!
[05:00] <Arwen> BluesKaj, *
[05:00] <GrahamA> Arwen: And just as fragile as one.
[05:00] <Arwen> hehe, but let's drop the Windows-bashing, it's unprofessional
[05:00] <GrahamA> Sod that it's fun.
[05:00] <Arwen> pah
[05:01] <Arwen> (F/OSS zealots are a bunch of vandals! they smash Windows!)
[05:01] <morg0th> may be anyone help me? when a do "aptitude install", my brouser(Opera & Konqueror) don't make connect on 80 port (Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock  )
[05:01] <BluesKaj> no Arwen , tried vista for one day ...that was enuff for me ... nice eye candy etc but what a clunker :)
[05:01] <Arwen> morg0th, something's still using your apt database
[05:01] <Arwen> do you have adept, another apt, or synaptic running?
[05:02] <GrahamA> I want to convert a windows server that does alot of stuff to linux, web hosting, e-mail, dhcp) but it also managed an active directory domain that i'd like windows machines to still be able to log into, any suggestions for distro, I've been mostly considering either opensuse or debian
[05:02] <Arwen> BluesKaj, actually, I don't have responsiveness issues with Vista, but the increased hard drive cost makes it impossible for me to deploy it :-\
[05:03] <Minataku> yourfriend: It was merely a way of noting that there's hardly any x64 support whatsoever
[05:03] <Arwen> GrahamA, SAMBA can kind of do AD, but I think you're gonna have to stick with Windows Server 2000/2003/2008
[05:03] <yourfriend> Minataku > yes. I understand that and wholeheartedly agree
[05:03] <yourfriend> Minataku > and it does suk
[05:03] <BluesKaj> yeah, unreal space hog  for sure 8gig just for the OS and proprietary apps
[05:04] <Arwen> BluesKaj, yeh, I need to keep my Windows install on a 6GB partition, so Vista is a non-solution for me
[05:04] <Arwen> it is rather nice though
[05:04] <GrahamA> Arwen: I'd just want set shares and to have settings/documents kept on the server.
[05:05] <Arwen> hmm, samba should be able to do that for you, but I don't know. It's always been common sense to me to let Windows handle that Windows stuff.
[05:05] <BluesKaj> XP-SP2 is the best windows app ...if there is such a thing, Arwen ; P
[05:05] <Arwen> hah
[05:05] <Arwen> I liked 2000 better actually.
[05:06] <GrahamA> Arwen: I can't say you've given me alot of hope.
[05:06] <Arwen> meh
[05:06] <Arwen> you can handle smtp/imap and dhcp with Linux though
[05:06] <GrahamA> I know that!
[05:06] <GrahamA> You taty!
[05:06] <morg0th> Arven - thnx! =) may be, but in my Ubuntu I don have it trobels. when I work in Ubuntu, I can update or install with apt & I can work in my brouser together, but in Kubuntu I have it troble ((
[05:07] <Arwen> GAH, WTF, my entire root fs is in my trash
[05:07] <Arwen> wtf?
[05:07] <Arwen> ???
[05:09] <GrahamA> UNLUCKY!
[05:12] <dthacker> Does someone have a link to the pdf version of the Ubuntu book?
[05:13] <solidus126> hello
[05:13] <solidus126> does anyone know how to enable direct rendering?  after de-installing compiz & beryl today I lost direct rendering and am having troubles getting it back up
[05:14] <solidus126> i have my before and after xorg.conf and glxinfo for comparison...
[05:14] <Dr_willis>  troubles getting it back up..... 0_o
[05:15] <Dr_willis> i dident think there was much changes to the xorg.conf for the  compwiz/berly stuff
[05:15] <Dr_willis> try 'diff xorg.old xorg.new' and see?
[05:16] <solidus126> I tried replacing the new with the old, but glxinfo still comes up with no dri enabled, and different results
[05:16] <solidus126> should I PM you the output?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> solidus126,  wont do much good. :) i thought thee was one line that enabled dri in the xorg.conf file
[05:17] <Dr_willis> i cant rember the details however.
[05:17] <solidus126> it is Load "dri" isn't it?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> thats what i thought.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> if its not loading. may want to check the X logs and see if any info stands out as to why.
[05:18] <solidus126> I'll see what I can do
[05:20] <solidus126> bummer... I do have Load "dri" enabled, but no cigar
[05:21] <solidus126> lol I am feeling kinda bad about it, I fixed this problem a week or two ago by putting the Extensions section at the end of xorg.conf but still no dice
[05:22] <solidus126> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:22] <solidus126> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[05:22] <solidus126> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon X1400
[05:22] <solidus126> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)
[05:22] <solidus126> before my fglrxinfo turned that out now it is
[05:22] <solidus126> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:22] <solidus126> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:22] <solidus126> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[05:22] <solidus126> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:22] <solidus126> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
[05:23] <solidus126> anyone know what could get it back to the old one?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Am i confised or is MESA like an Old not used much any more thing?
[05:25] <solidus126>  @Dr_willis yeah I don't think MESA is used much, somehow in removing the Beryl and Compiz it reverted me to it instead of the fglrx
[05:26] <bjwebb> hi
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Yea.. its been so long. i cant rember. Sounds to me like its falling back to the Mesa/Software stuff.
[05:26] <bjwebb> i downloaded the jdk from the sun site
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Ive seen this asked so many times here.. theres proberly a Huge thread on it - on the kubuntu forums.
[05:26] <bjwebb> how do you make an ap run when you just type the name in
[05:26] <kmtsg> How do I change so I play sound from my creative soundcard instead of the one built in the mb?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> bjwebb,  why. :) you can install java from the repos.
[05:26] <bjwebb> i just realised that
[05:26] <bjwebb> i didn't think it would be there
[05:27] <bjwebb> i forgot about the multiverse policy
[05:27] <bjwebb> but its such a big download
[05:27] <Dr_willis> they just GPL'ed it :) hopefully soon it will be included by deault.
[05:27] <solidus126> I am going to scour the forums a bit more, did not have any luck earlier :(
[05:27] <bjwebb> Dr_willis: i hope so
[05:27] <Dr_willis> chmod +x whatever  && ./whatever
[05:27] <Dr_willis> is how ya execute somthing.
[05:27] <bjwebb> no but how to make it run from other directories
[05:28] <Dr_willis> You mean put it in your PATH ?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> copy/link it to one of the dirs in your PATH is one way
[05:28] <Dr_willis> echo $PATH
[05:28] <bjwebb> yes, i think so
[05:28] <Dr_willis> to see your current path.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> java however is special. It has some other enviroment variables it likes set to see where its other files are at. I recall
[05:29] <berserker> alguien que hable espaol?
[05:29] <bjwebb> well this is just javac, rather than the JRE
[05:29] <bjwebb> so where is the path file?
[05:29] <Dr_willis> No idea. I always just use the java from the repos.
[05:29] <Dr_willis> Java's stuff is normally set i recall from the Enviroment variables.
[05:30] <Dr_willis> theres not a 'file' that sets them. i recall.
[05:30] <solstugan> can somone tell me how i completely remove LILO?
[05:31] <solstugan> ;O that man is CRAZY
[05:32] <Dr_willis> remove it and install grub?
[05:32] <Dr_willis> or remove it and isntall the windows boot loader?
[05:33] <solstugan> 1. my windows partition got whole damaged aftar taht i installd kubuntu....
[05:34] <Dr_willis> booting the windows xp cd. and using their 'rescue/recover' shell the command 'fixboot' and/or 'fixmbr' should restore the original windows boot loader.
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Off for lunch.. BBL.
[05:35] <TeraDyne> Dr_Willis, IIRC, it's "fixmbr"
[05:35] <Dr_willis> ive had to use both in some cases.
[05:35] <TeraDyne> shows how messed up it is.
[05:36] <Dr_willis> like their new improved fdisk command.. :)
[05:36] <TeraDyne> True...
[05:36] <depeche> hi there..
[05:36] <berserker> help
[05:37] <TeraDyne> beserker, what do you need help with?
[05:38] <berserker> help???
[05:38] <pag> !ask | berserker
[05:38] <ubotu> berserker: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:39] <Milux> someone use kvirk?
[05:40] <berserker> as configure flash at firefox of 64 bits?
[05:41] <ubuntu> is possible save all settings in live cd? I boot from live cd rw in a cdrw device
[05:41] <dthacker> Milux: Kvirc?
[05:41] <berserker> ??
[05:41] <Milux> dthacker: yes
[05:41] <pag> !flash64 | berserker
[05:41] <ubotu> berserker: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:41] <berserker> thanks
[05:41] <dthacker> Yes, I do
[05:41] <grul> !iso
[05:41] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:41] <Milux> dthacker: i can't set the right utf...
[05:42] <Milux> dthacker: codific
[05:42] <Milux> dthacker: i can't see the 
[05:43] <dthacker> Milux:  Settings--->Configure Kvirc--->Encoding
[05:44] <Milux> dthacker: ok
[05:44] <dthacker> Milux: Then choose your encoding from the "Use Language Encoding" dropdown
[05:44] <Milux> dthacker: ok
[05:45] <Milux> dthacker: some else
[05:46] <dthacker> Milux: another question?
[05:46] <Milux> i must restart kvirc? and what's your version?
[05:47] <Milux> mine's 3.2.4
[05:47] <dthacker> I have 3.2.0 on this box and 3.2.4 on a laptop.
[05:47] <fati> i need help, my baby keeps doing this really cool thing where she mashes the keyboard an all of a sudden, i can select kde windows by typing the name in the title bar
[05:48] <fati> she's elite or something, i can't figure out how she gets it
[05:48] <fati> hehe
[05:48] <dthacker> Milux: I don't know if you need to restart.  Try it and see!
[05:48] <Milux> dthacker: you haven't any problem with codific?
[05:49] <Milux> dthacker:  it's ok now, thank you
[05:49] <Milux> :-)
[05:50] <dale> Hello
[05:50] <dthacker> Milux: np  :)
[05:52] <berserker> kisam,a
[05:53] <Karti> Hi, my mouse seems to have died after a reboot. COuld someone tell me what commands I can use to kill and restart it in a Konsole?
[05:53] <berserker> ??
[05:54] <Karti> I know the mouse works as its on a kvm and works on the other PCs and I have checked all cables
[05:54] <matt_> hey people
[05:54] <berserker> ???
[05:54] <ardchoille> Karti: Um.. I don't think you can "kill" and "restart" a mouse.. it's a device.. either it works or it doesn't.
[05:54] <epyfro> hi !
[05:54] <matt_> this is my first time EVER using IRC
[05:54] <ardchoille> Karti: Try unplugging it and plugging it back in.
[05:54] <berserker> ??
[05:55] <Karti> ardchoille : will do beb
[05:55] <berserker> ??
[05:55] <ardchoille> berserker: Is that the only key that works?
[05:55] <ardchoille> lol
[05:55] <BluesKaj> berserker , just yer question
[05:56] <BluesKaj> ask
[05:56] <klobster> I want to make a   partition that has /home,   and a shared media diectory (/shared), is it possible for me to do this and mount it to / or will it screw up my /mount; and is there a way for me to do this another way?
[05:57] <matt_> you can mount your /home directory to a seperate partition, and access if from /home under /, if that's what you mean
[05:57] <BluesKaj> must be an old windows guy who used seperate partitons for apps and OSs
[05:58] <matt_> that's what I'm doing
[05:59] <klobster> what I mean is /home and /shared are on one patition, / is another partition
[05:59] <matt_> ah, I see
[05:59] <BluesKaj> tried that ...just screwed up my access ...prolly cuz i din't do it properly at the get go
[05:59] <ardchoille> klobster: Ah, so /home and /shared are directories?
[06:00] <Karti> ardchoille Cheers looks like it was my ipod ;)
[06:00] <klobster> ardchoille: yes, hats correct
[06:00] <klobster> ^^ thats
[06:00] <ardchoille> kalorin`: Ah, glad it's fixed :)
[06:00] <BluesKaj> best way is to setup separate partitons during the install
[06:00] <gemidjy> is there a way to put Windows in menu.lst automatically as ubuntu does when it is installing ?
[06:01] <ardchoille> !grub
[06:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:01] <klobster> is there a way for me to mount this so that my root partition mounts at /, and my home and shared ((on theother partition) mount at /home and /shared ?
[06:02] <ubuntu> how can I save the configurations made in live cd, once the boot was in cdrw
[06:02] <ubuntu> how can I save the configurations made in live cd, once the boot was in cdrw?
[06:02] <matt_> klobster... I think you can do it with / home and /shared on seperate partitions of their own, and it seems like you could put them both on a single separate partition
[06:02] <matt_> i'm still a bit of a Linux newbie though, so that's giving me a headache, hehe... have you looked at the psychocats page?
[06:03] <loopin> Hello I installed kuubuntu and now I cant boot into Windows (theres no option in menu) plz how can I get into windows
[06:04] <TeraDyne> loopin, what option did you choose when you installed Kubuntu?
[06:04] <klobster> matt_: I know I can do it with /home and /shared on separate partitions, but I wanted them together on one...
[06:04] <TeraDyne> when you partitioned your drive*
[06:05] <loopin> I installed it on seperate partition
[06:05] <matt_> klobster ah... yeah, I don't know if you can do that or not... I'm still too much of a newb to help you, sorry :)
[06:05] <joncsn> why does konquerer try to open realplayer files with movie player?
[06:05] <joncsn> how can i fix this?
[06:06] <loopin> I already have kubuntu on it, I made a new partition for windows and then installed win on it. since win replaces grub, I reinstalled it. now I can only see kubuntu entries in grub and no win
[06:06] <gemidjy> how can I downgrade to Kernel 2.6.20-15
[06:06] <TeraDyne> loopin, there's your problem. You'll have to add it manually
[06:06] <TeraDyne> !grub | loopin
[06:06] <ubotu> loopin: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:07] <TeraDyne> loopin, that should help you in adding it back in.
[06:08] <kmtsg> anyone know how I get kubuntu to use my creative soundscard instead of the on-board one?
[06:11] <fryc97> hello
[06:12] <klobster> kmtsg:you have to disable yo sound card in  he bios;    or ask in  #alsa for info about switching soundcards
[06:12] <klobster> sorry fr all teh typos; my wireless keybad s messed up
[06:14] <mcscruff> lo all, how do you get xplanet to work
[06:15] <joncsn> how come after i configure konquerer to use realplayer it still tries to use totem?
[06:16] <theverant> how do I install missing modules for Kcontrol?
[06:17] <draik> joncsn: I forgot how to configure it, but you have to change the settings within konqueror to not use totem
[06:17] <theverant> I can't seem to find the disk and filesystem module
[06:17] <kmtsg> klobster: no I havent turned it off, it worked to have it on in windows and gentoo. but I will ask in #alsa. thanks.
[06:17] <theverant> and I'm missing the displays module
[06:17] <klobster> ok, I think I figured out what to do: first I make a home partition and add the dir .shared.  then I mount the partition to /home, and then mount /home/.shared to /shared.  it's ugly, but unless someone knows of a better way, that is what I will do.
[06:17] <jhutchins> kmtsg: multiple sound cards are one of the things that works in some distros but not others.
[06:17] <enry> good afternoon
[06:18] <jhutchins> enry: Not yet, but I appreciate the sentiment.  What can we do for you?
[06:18] <TeraDyne> joncsn, right click on the file and select properties. There should be a small button next to the "Type" line. Click it.
[06:18] <draik> Does anyone know how to get back the panel that shows all the open windows? I removed it when trying to remove the quick launch in Feisty
[06:18] <theverant> and the user management module.  I did a clean install of Kubuntu... why are all these pieces missing?
[06:18] <kmtsg> jhutchins: oh ok..  thanks for the info.
[06:19] <jhutchins> kmtsg: They can be made to work, but you have to figure out what's being done differently (and I don't know myself).
[06:19] <TeraDyne> joncsn, After that, make sure the application you want it to use it at the top of the "Application Preference Order"
[06:19] <enry> oh i was just saying hello :D
[06:20] <joncsn> its a stream link
[06:20] <joncsn> i went through the konquerer settings and deleted all other applications from the list except realplayer
[06:20] <joncsn> but it still wants to use totem
[06:21] <TeraDyne> That's odd. In fact, that's really odd. I'm not sure if I can help then.
[06:21] <kmtsg> jhutchins: ok..  I'll try turnig it off in the bios first.
[06:22] <jhutchins> kmtsg: That's the easy way.
[06:22] <joncsn> i cant even use firefox because then it tries to use embedded mplayer and doesnt play either
[06:22] <joncsn> totem gives me video but no sound
[06:25] <joncsn> real player will only work when i save target to my desktop first
[06:25] <aleksanteri> hi, kmix doesn't seem to find any mixers, how i fix this?
[06:25] <fatahou> salut
[06:25] <fatahou> bof i'm french it dead :)
[06:26] <aleksanteri> !fr
[06:26] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:26] <fatahou> ah je pensais  un truc comme ca
[06:26] <fatahou> merci
[06:27] <fatahou> ok
[06:28] <fatahou> je decouvre konversation
[06:28] <jhutchins> joncsn: Hang on, got something for you...
[06:28] <fatahou> ca a l'air enorme
[06:28] <aleksanteri> !fr | fatahou
[06:28] <ubotu> fatahou: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:28] <taa> hi
[06:28] <Ryiel> binks: I'm back. Any luck?
[06:29] <taa> i've just installed kde under ubuntu, i was using gnome before, when kde starts somme application missed their icons
[06:30] <taa> how to correct this please ?
[06:31] <jhutchins> joncsn: Ok, have you actually uninstalled totem?
[06:31] <jhutchins> joncsn: ?
[06:31] <BluesKaj> taa, Icons are missing in the k-menu or panel or... ?
[06:33] <BluesKaj> taa, check synaptic and make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed
[06:33] <joncsn> no should i uninstall it?
[06:33] <joncsn> whats the best way to do that
[06:34] <jhutchins> joncsn: Yes, uninstall totem: apt-get --purge uninstall totem
[06:34] <jhutchins> joncsn: sorry: apt-get --purge remove totem
[06:35] <lufis> I can't find the applet that changes screen resolution. where is it?
[06:35] <ubuntu> Hi,  there is a errro fuse_2.6 required. I installed via  sudo fuse-source but I did not understand how to compile it
[06:36] <joncsn> do i need to restart? after i removed totem it still uses totem to open the file
[06:36] <jhutchins> lufis: krandrtray
[06:36] <jhutchins> joncsn: How did you remove totem?
[06:37] <lufis> jhutchins: oh thank god. i was about to go blind
[06:37] <joncsn> sudo apt-get --purge remove totem
[06:38] <jhutchins> joncsn: What happens now when you try to click on a link?
[06:39] <azzco> Is there any decent video editing program in the ubuntu repos?
[06:39] <ubuntu> how recompile fuse
[06:39] <ubuntu> ?
[06:39] <AlphaOmega> i just burned kubuntu and ubuntu alt and reg, all 4 cds dont boot on my machine, yet gparted i birned and official xp dics will boot, any ideas?
[06:39] <jhutchins> joncsn: What has worked for me in konqueror is to take a local file of the same type as the link, right click on it in konq, and choose the application to open it with.  This provides a checkbox to "remember" what application should open it.  This makes that app the preferred one for a whole set of file types.
[06:39] <BluesKaj> azzco, avidemux
[06:39] <AlphaOmega> burned*
[06:40] <azzco> Thanks BluesKaj
[06:40] <jhutchins> joncsn: I'm not sure if this affects firefox or not, but it should.
[06:40] <joncsn> jhutchins: it brings up a small window telling me type: realaudo file and gives me the options to either save as. open with 'movie player,' or cancel
[06:40] <aleksanteri> kmix doesn't seem to find any mixers, how i fix this?
[06:40] <binks> Ryiel: well sort of ill paste my latest logs
[06:41] <jhutchins> joncsn: I had to uninstall a package called totem-common, but that doesn't seem to exist on ubuntu.
[06:41] <jhutchins> joncsn: Also, I don't think mplayer will handle real, you may find it easier to just install the real player.
[06:41] <jhutchins> !mp3 | joncsn
[06:41] <ubotu> joncsn: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:41] <jhutchins> joncsn: Instructions above.
[06:42] <joncsn> i have installed real player
[06:42] <luke> question...
[06:42] <jhutchins> joncsn: It should have over-ridden the associations.
[06:42] <binks> Ryiel:
[06:43] <jussi01> luke:  go on
[06:43] <binks> Ryiel: http://www.pastebin.co.uk/17721
[06:43] <binks> ooops
[06:43] <jhutchins> joncsn: make sure you have the pluggin installed and have scanned for it in firefox.
[06:44] <abrahao> how recompile fuse?
[06:44] <luke> i use ubuntu not kubuntu, and i was wondering what LVM volume is, because during my boot process, it strays away from whe smooth loading scren and goes to  text loadin LVM, do i need this, i would like to remove it if possible, as the smoothness of my system is being interruppted
[06:45] <Ryiel> binks: it looks it works
[06:45] <Ryiel> erm, it seems to work
[06:45] <jhutchins> luke: perhaps #ubuntu?
[06:45] <jussi01> luke: have you asked in #ubuntu ?
[06:45] <jussi01> hehe..
[06:45] <jussi01> just beat me to it....
[06:45] <luke> i use ubuntu not kubuntu, and i was wondering what LVM volume is, because during my boot process, it strays away from whe smooth loading scren and goes to  text loadin LVM, do i need this, i would like to remove it if possible, as the smoothness of my system is being interruppted
[06:46] <Ryiel> lol
[06:46] <jhutchins> binks: I've never had good luck with kaffeine, I much prefer mplayer.  VLC also seems to be one of the ones that "just work".
[06:46] <binks> but what does>> nagra1 : failed to get CW mean
[06:46] <joncsn> jhutchins: how do i scan for the plugin in firefox?
[06:46] <binks> jhutchins: can vlc use the sc plugin
[06:46] <jhutchins> Hang on, let me fire it up.
[06:46] <Ryiel> binks: i bet it means wrong key format
[06:47] <binks> hmm i may have to connect my dbox to get the keys from that
[06:47] <Ryiel> i dont think vlc is capable of sat or cabletv
[06:47] <abrahao> where can I find apt-get install kernel-headers-2.4.27-1-686 ??
[06:47] <binks> nor me
[06:48] <binks> i wish i could get kvdr to work but i get an error telling me to turn off utf-8
[06:48] <Ryiel> binks: have you checked my keyfile?
[06:48] <Ryiel> binks: vdr isnt that easy to get to work
[06:48] <binks> Ryiel: yes thats how i got to that part lol
[06:49] <jhutchins> binks: Sorry, darned if I know, my firefox doesn't appear to have any configuration for plugins or mime type handling.
[06:50] <jhutchins> I HATE firefox!
[06:50] <Ryiel> pastebin yours and tell me which one you want to use
[06:50] <Ryiel> binks:
[06:50] <binks> jhutchins: ive gone full circle and am back on konq
[06:50] <TeraDyne> jhutchins, that's why I perfer SeaMonkey.
[06:50] <binks> Ryiel: ok 1 min
[06:50] <herrweltschaft> so
[06:51] <herrweltschaft> das meinte ich - habe den treiber aktiviert und die kiste lie sich nicht mehr starten
[06:52] <herrweltschaft> ich hab nvidia-glx installiert, dann neu gestartet - wie es im wiki steht
[06:52] <aleksanteri> !de | herrweltschaft
[06:52] <ubotu> herrweltschaft: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:52] <binks> Ryiel: http://www.pastebin.co.uk/17722
[06:52] <herrweltschaft> dann treiber aktiviert mit "sudo nvidia-xconfig" und wollte neustarten, aber dann wollte er nicht mehr
[06:54] <Ryiel> binks: nagra2 keys must have M1 or M2
[06:54] <Ryiel> not just 00 or 01
[06:54] <TeraDyne> !de > herrweltschaft
[06:54] <binks> arr so if i find that add it below my 0 and 1
[06:55] <binks> TeraDyne: he went already
[06:55] <TeraDyne> ah. Ok. I have join\part messages turned off
[06:56] <Ryiel> binks: check out mine how it looks like
[06:56] <binks> yep but yours is like loaded with more than 1 provider  and confusing to a newbie
[06:57] <binks> Ryiel: ^
[06:58] <Ryiel> binks: ok, let me check it out
[07:01] <Ryiel> binks: i cannot find those keys in my keyfile... where did you get those?
[07:01] <binks> Ryiel: i need the m1 key for 5A01
[07:01] <binks> those are cable keys ;) Ryiel
[07:02] <Ryiel> if that's in nagra2 they have to have m1 key
[07:02] <Ryiel> if those nagra 1 then they dont have
[07:03] <azzco> I need to convert a video... Do I have to use ffmpeg with commands or is there a gui?
[07:03] <karpiu> jol jol :D
[07:04] <mamusiaTwoja> :)
[07:04] <Dr_willis> !find avid
[07:04] <Ryiel> binks: btw, if you find the m1 key, just change it to M1 5A01 key
[07:04] <ubotu> Found: avida-base, avida-qt-viewer, avida-viewer, sword-comm-tdavid, avidemux
[07:04] <Dr_willis> !info  avidemux
[07:04] <ubotu> avidemux: a small editing software for avi (especially DivX). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.3.0-0.0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 3270 kB, installed size 8256 kB
[07:04] <Dr_willis>  avidemux is good for converting some videos to other formats.
[07:05] <mod> I need help
[07:05] <Dr_willis> its NOT a frontend to ffmpeg.
[07:05] <Ryiel> mod just tell whats your problem
[07:05] <azzco> I don't get how to convert with avidemux =/
[07:05] <BluesKaj> !tovid | azzco
[07:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:06] <mod> Ryiel I don't speak english
[07:06] <Dr_willis> azzco,  time to learn? :)
[07:06] <Ryiel> mod: What is your native language then?
[07:06] <Dr_willis> azzco,  open file, select the options, select save...
[07:06] <binks> azzco: you got to be kidding me avidemux is sooo easy just load and select Auto then DVD
[07:06] <azzco> Yeah but I ony get how to select and I see the calculator options... but I have no idea how to actually do the encoding..
[07:06] <mod> Ryiel polski :)
[07:06] <mod> poland
[07:07] <mod> polish
[07:07] <Ryiel> !pol | mod
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <Ryiel> !pl | mod
[07:07] <ubotu> mod: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:07] <Dr_willis> I reencode stuff to xvid all the time for my GP2x
[07:07] <mod> !pl
[07:07] <Ryiel> So you know where you can get help :)
[07:08] <azzco> OMG That was to easy...
[07:08] <no_Ob> hi
[07:08] <mod> Ryiel I fuck You ;)
[07:08] <no_Ob> what was that repository for opera?
[07:08] <no_Ob> the commercial repo?
[07:08] <PriceChild> !ohmy | mod
[07:08] <ubotu> mod: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:09] <Dr_willis> !opera
[07:09] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[07:09] <Dr_willis> !find opera
[07:09] <mod> PriceChil ?
[07:09] <ubotu> File opera found in apparmor-profiles, crossfire-maps, crossfire-maps-small, debian-edu-config, localization-config
[07:09] <Dr_willis> !info opera
[07:09] <ubotu> Package opera does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:09] <Dr_willis> hmm.. i just saw it..
[07:09] <Dr_willis> oh wait that was a MintLinux repo.
[07:09] <mod> aaaaaaaaaaaaa jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa possszzzzzzzzzukkkkkkujjjjjjjjjeeeeeeee kogos kto G A D A   P O    P O L S K U :D :D :D
[07:10] <codemonke> I'm trying to install kubuntu 7.04 on an amd64 machine w/ an NVidia 8800GTS.  I can't get the graphical installer to work though.  I just get a blank screen when the installer starts.
[07:11] <BluesKaj> mod, in the server textbox type: /join #ubuntu-pl
[07:11] <codemonke> Are there any boot options I can use to tell the installer to use the nvidia driver?
[07:11] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: he's gone already
[07:12] <karpiu> ence pence
[07:12] <BluesKaj> yeah ,Tm_T, he beat me to it :) ...the main thing is he left:)
[07:13] <BluesKaj> or was kicked
[07:13] <abrahao> where can I find apt-get install kernel-headers-2.4.27-1-686 ??
[07:14] <no_Ob> that's not the one I was talking about
[07:14] <aleksanteri> he was removed
[07:14] <no_Ob> there was like a official ubuntu commerciaol repo
[07:14] <BluesKaj> well, BBL ...too nice out to stay inside today
[07:14] <Dr_willis> i recall there being some issues wht the 8800 video cards
[07:14] <Dr_willis> codemonke,  may want to use the alternative installer cd
[07:15] <codemonke> I am
[07:15] <codemonke> Wait, no, I'm using the dvd
[07:15] <Dr_willis> i think the dvd MIGHT have both on it.. not sure how the dvd differs
[07:15] <no_Ob> !commercial
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <codemonke> How can I instruct the installer to use it then?
[07:16] <Sayers> !ubuntu
[07:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[07:16] <codemonke> If it were there
[07:16] <no_Ob> anyone konw how to add a commercial repo to Ubuntu?
[07:16] <no_Ob> the feisty commercial repo?
[07:16] <no_Ob> it's a matter of life or death
[07:16] <no_Ob> I need it ASAP
[07:16] <Arwen> no_Ob, lol, one second
[07:16] <devnull> Well spamming
[07:17] <devnull> like
[07:17] <devnull> this
[07:17] <devnull> Won't get you an answer any quicker ;)
[07:17] <Arwen>  deb http://archive.canonical.com feisty-commercial main
[07:17] <Arwen>  deb-src http://archive.canonical.com feisty-commercial main
[07:17] <Arwen> paste those into your sources.list
[07:17] <no_Ob> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu feisty-commercial main
[07:17] <no_Ob> mm... mine looks different
[07:17] <no_Ob> yours is better?
[07:17] <no_Ob> does yours work?
[07:18] <lmerovingio> Hola a todos
[07:18] <Arwen> yes.. mine just has a line for source code
[07:18] <lmerovingio> estoy tratando de ejecutar php-mysql
[07:18] <no_Ob> lmerovingio: calla mierda
[07:19] <cugel> !sp
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <Arwen> !es | lmerovingio
[07:19] <ubotu> lmerovingio: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:19] <Arwen> I think
[07:19] <abrahao> how Can I install kernel-headers-2.4.27-1-686 ??
[07:19] <lmerovingio> ok, sorry, jaja
[07:19] <devnull> ew 2.4 ?
[07:19] <Tm_T> abrahao: what you are doing?
[07:19] <lmerovingio> I am new
[07:19] <Arwen> uh... apt-get install linux-headers-2.4.27-1-686
[07:19] <Arwen> why the hell do you need headers that old? are you using Hoary or something?
[07:19] <Tm_T> !ohmy | Arwen
[07:19] <ubotu> Arwen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:20] <Tm_T> (;
[07:20] <Arwen> huh??/
[07:20] <lmerovingio> can you help me, the problem is that when I try to acced to the localhost/prueba.php appears the dialog to download or open the file
[07:20] <devnull> hell is not bad language..
[07:20] <Tm_T> it's not, but not needed either
[07:20] <devnull> imbrandon: install php
[07:20] <devnull> lmerovingio: install php and configure apache or whatever your using properly.
[07:20] <abrahao> Arwen - couldnt find packag, maybe repository
[07:21] <abrahao> ?
[07:21] <Tm_T> abrahao: packages.ubuntu.com might help
[07:22] <Arwen> abrahao, *sigh* what package? maybe you should search before asking?
[07:22] <joncsn> whats the best way to uninstall and reinstall flash?
[07:22] <PriceChild> maybe you should tell everyone the real problem joncsn
[07:23] <Arwen> jonasp, apt-get remove --purge flashplugin-nonfree && apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree. what's your problem?
[07:23] <joncsn> flash only works sometimes
[07:23] <Arwen> that's not an installation issue...
[07:23] <joncsn> like on the adobe site, it says flash works fine
[07:23] <joncsn> what sort of issue do you think it is?
[07:24] <XVampireX> I'm on quad core here people :D
[07:24] <XVampireX> does anyone want to help me with networking a bit?
[07:24] <XVampireX> everything works except konqueror
[07:24] <XVampireX> I'm on livecd, and it's as fast as heck :D
[07:24] <Arwen> !doesn't work | XVampireX
[07:24] <ubotu> XVampireX: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[07:25] <XVampireX> I mean
[07:25] <XVampireX> it doesn't want to connect to websites
[07:25] <Arwen> explain. Maybe it's an ipv6 issue?
[07:25] <Tm_T> XVampireX: and error is what?
[07:25] <XVampireX> An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com:
[07:25] <XVampireX> Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/.
[07:26] <Arwen> Tm_T, is this an ipv6 problem?
[07:26] <Tm_T> uhm
[07:26] <Tm_T> XVampireX: try other pages too, some local sites, international ones etc
[07:27] <XVampireX> Doesn't work
[07:27] <aleksanteri> kmix doesn't seem to find any mixers, how i fix this?
[07:27] <Tm_T> !fi | aleksanteri
[07:27] <ubotu> aleksanteri: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[07:27] <aleksanteri> hmm
[07:28] <Tm_T> also, hummm
[07:28] <Tm_T> !sound | aleksanteri
[07:28] <ubotu> aleksanteri: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:28] <aleksanteri> checked them already
[07:28] <abrahao> Tm_T - I cant find kernel-headers-2.4.27-1-686 in packages.ubuntu.com. any ideia?
[07:28] <Tm_T> abrahao: why you need it?
[07:28] <Arwen> abrahao, that's because Ubuntu doesn't ship kernels that ancient
[07:29] <Arwen> go to kernel.org and download the source
[07:29] <Arwen> and actually, that might be in Debian, considering how ancient they are
[07:29] <devnull> Arwen: that is probably over his head
[07:29] <Arwen> devnull, too bad for him... he never told us what is issue was.
[07:31] <abrahao> Tm_T - to compule fuse 2.6
[07:31] <Tm_T> abrahao: and you would do that because...
[07:31] <devnull> Arwen: yeah and even the debian package list has nothing from 2.4
[07:31] <Arwen> ...and why can't you compile fuse against a *modern* kernel?
[07:31] <Arwen> devnull, hehe
[07:31] <Tm_T> Arwen: because its in modern kernel
[07:31] <Arwen> Tm_T, oh
[07:32] <Tm_T> IIRC
[07:32] <XVampireX> I fixed it
[07:32] <XVampireX> was a dhcp/dns problem
[07:32] <Arwen> heh
[07:32] <Tm_T> XVampireX: good
[07:32] <XVampireX> heh
[07:32] <joncsn> can someone tell me if flash works for them on this website?
[07:33] <devnull> yuck debian is still on 2.6.18 for stable
[07:33] <joncsn> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19355342/
[07:33] <XVampireX> This is gonna be wild when I install the system :D
[07:33] <devnull> They are gradually getting better about packages though
[07:33] <Arwen> Debian Stable is an exercise in obsolescence...
[07:34] <joncsn> when i click launch it says i need to install flash
[07:34] <robotgeek> devnull: but, its stable :)
[07:34] <devnull> robotgeek: If you say so
[07:34] <devnull> There are alot of different factors that determine "stable"
[07:34] <abrahao> tm_t - I'm installing the ntfs-3g package, and it is required to mount the ntfs volume
[07:35] <devnull> Outdated packages do not always mean they are more stable. Things such as hardware and and platform can interfere quite a bit.
[07:35] <Arwen> so... apt-get install ntfs-3g. What's the issue?
[07:35] <devnull> i.e.: amd64 in almost any distro is more stable w/ testing packages.
[07:35] <devnull> even in gentoo o.O
[07:35] <Arwen> Gentoo has "stable"? o.O
[07:36] <devnull> Arwen: Yeah
[07:36] <devnull> they call testing: Arch
[07:36] <robotgeek> damn, i killed myself
[07:36] <devnull> and beyond that is hardened
[07:37] <devnull> tbh after getting a full system up and running properly, (even on an ~arch install) it was more stable than most current distros
[07:37] <devnull> Though I must say, kubuntu/ubuntu has been nearly flawless so far.
[07:38] <Arwen> Gentoo is lame... it takes half an hour to install *anything*
[07:38] <crocodile> sudo apt-get install compiz  # compiz-gnome AND/OR compiz-kde
[07:38] <devnull> lol Arwen, not totally true
[07:38] <crocodile> does this mean to type install compiz AND compiz-kde , or is compiz-kde enough?
[07:38] <Arwen> um, totally true
[07:38] <devnull> crocodile: no
[07:38] <Arwen> (compiling..... compiling..... eta 30 min....)
[07:39] <devnull> crocodile: if you have kde use compiz-kde
[07:39] <TeraDyne> Gentoo, the GCC screensaver.
[07:39] <devnull> and likewise w/ gnome
[07:39] <crocodile> ok thought so
[07:39] <abrahao> I just need to aceess the ntfs volume
[07:40] <devnull> lol Arwen. It all depends on the package and everything else. The only things that REALLY take alot of time are: gcc, glibc, Xorg, kde/gnome
[07:40] <devnull> plus ccache speeds things up quite a bit
[07:41] <Arwen> devnull, ffmpeg, mplayer, oo.o, firefox, anything by mozilla, etc etc
[07:41] <crocodile> devnull - another question, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager # compizconfig-backends-* ?!
[07:41] <aleksanteri> don't forget QT!
[07:41] <devnull> oh yeah and QT
[07:41] <crocodile> devnull - what does the # and ?! represent in this?
[07:41] <aleksanteri> :p
[07:42] <devnull> crocodile: just means to also install that
[07:42] <devnull> crocodile: the # is usually the sign for a terminal command.
[07:42] <crocodile> yes but why are they added to the lines?
[07:42] <devnull> and the AND is just like that so you know not to include it in the line
[07:43] <joncsn> can someone help me configure a printer over a network?
[07:43] <devnull> just do: apt--get install compiz && apt-get install compiz-kde
[07:43] <joncsn> i have the driver but my printing jobs just sit there in the queue
[07:44] <devnull> Arwen: Your just insane if you feel the need to compile oo.o
[07:44] <ar4446140890ne> where can I gind the commands for irc?
[07:44] <joncsn> the printer is on windows xp home, i have samba installed
[07:44] <Arwen> ar4446140890ne, type "/help"
[07:44] <ar4446140890ne> thx
[07:44] <devnull> for things such as firefox/thunderbird and oo.o, they have binaries.
[07:45] <sundar> is it possible to always use kde file manager in kubuntu ?  when I save files to disk using firefox I get a file manager
[07:45] <sundar> i mean a gnome file manager
[07:45] <devnull> sundar: change your default programs
[07:45] <ar4446140890ne> @ Arwen if it would work. which programm do you use?
[07:46] <devnull> sundar: System Settings on the menu, then Default Applications
[07:46] <Arwen> ar4446140890ne, to do what?
[07:46] <devnull> Arwen: Irc
[07:46] <ar4446140890ne> yes
[07:46] <devnull> konversation doesnt show help
[07:46] <Arwen> XChat, Konversation, or irssi. Take your pick.
[07:46] <abrahao> I just need to aceess the ntfs volume
[07:46] <Arwen> I use XChat
[07:47] <aleksanteri> kvirc \o/
[07:47] <Arwen> lol @ kvirc
[07:47] <sundar> devnull..I have only email clinet, emberdded text editor, instant messenger, terminal emulator and web browser...
[07:47] <ar4446140890ne> "/help" didnt work
[07:47] <devnull> ar4446140890ne: http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/konvi-cmds.html
[07:47] <ar4446140890ne> thx
[07:48] <aleksanteri> there's nothing lol in kvirc :P
[07:48] <Arwen> :-P
[07:49] <titans> hi
[07:50] <titans> isn't a flat screen supposed to run a 60Hz? mine is at 1280x1024@56Hz
[07:50] <titans> I am concerned it'll fry or sumthin
[07:50] <devnull> titans: running below is usually not bad
[07:50] <Arwen> titans, it *should*, but they won't fry
[07:50] <Arwen> mine runs at 75Hz
[07:50] <devnull> above can mess things up
[07:51] <titans> Arwen: is better at 75Hz?
[07:51] <titans> Arwen: what's the difference?
[07:51] <devnull> titans: It can also be a misinterpretation of the system, etc.
[07:51] <Arwen> titans, only if your display supports it... basically more Hz means you can see more fps
[07:51] <devnull> Also if its not really a name brand, they usually skip out on little things like that to save money.
[07:52] <titans> ok
[07:52] <titans> MORE FPS for free??!!!
[07:52] <crocodile> I installed compiz fusion, all installation steps worked and I run it but the effects aren't actually happening
[07:52] <Arwen> titans, you can *see* more fps. Doesn't mean you *have* more fps.
[07:52] <crocodile> any suggestions?
[07:53] <XVampireX> People
[07:53] <XVampireX> I have no idea how to install this...
[07:53] <Kjellviz> where can i change "default programs" in kde ? (i want to change what torrent program is used by default)
[07:53] <titans> damn! I don't have @75Hz I have 74Hz and 76Hz which one shouyld I pick?
[07:54] <titans> Arwen: System Settings says so
[07:54] <Arwen> dunno, don't ask me :-\
[07:54] <titans> you know what I'll pick 76Hz, higher better
[07:54] <XVampireX> "Can't have the end before the start!"
[07:54] <XVampireX> Does anyone have any idea what this means?
[07:55] <Arwen> XVampireX, what are you trying to do?
[07:55] <XVampireX> trying to create 3 partitions
[07:55] <XVampireX> 1 for root, one for home and one for swap
[07:55] <XVampireX> it won't let me
[07:55] <Arwen> screenshot
[07:57] <lord_earthship> I see I have to learn English as well as I could^^
[07:58] <XVampireX> wait I'll upload it to imageshack
[07:58] <XVampireX> http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7538/snapshot1ke0.png
[07:59] <XVampireX> any idea?
[08:00] <Lunar_Lamp> XVampireX, I think it's because the first partition should start at the start of the disk.
[08:00] <Lunar_Lamp> (so the MBR can be read from there)
[08:00] <crocodile> wow wow, compiz fusion is loads better than beryl
[08:00] <Lunar_Lamp> Try setting it up like that.
[08:01] <XVampireX> Oh, okey
[08:01] <XVampireX> Yeah, I think that will work :D
[08:02] <XVampireX> no it doesn't let me
[08:03] <draik> What do I need to have my OpenGL screensavers to work?
[08:03] <Arwen> uh, 1) Grammar check
[08:03] <XVampireX> I'm gonna do some automatic install anyway
[08:03] <Arwen> 2) working DRI/DRM
[08:04] <draik> Arwen: Whoopsie. 2 thoughts into one
[08:04] <Lunar_Lamp> draik, basicallym, you need to install the drivers that allow opengl acceleration for your graphics card to be utlised.
[08:04] <draik> Lunar_Lamp: nVidia. Been having issues all day with the drivers.
[08:05] <Lunar_Lamp> draik, well, I'm not the best person to ask about setting up graphics cards, but that's pretty much wha tyou need.
[08:06] <draik> Thank you Lunar_Lamp
[08:06] <Arwen> why can't I have a 1600x1600x1600 monitor?
[08:06] <Arwen> grr!!!!
[08:07] <crimsun> because you haven't invented it yet
[08:07] <Lunar_Lamp> Arwen, because that would be a 3D surface...
[08:07] <crimsun> now get right on it ;p
[08:07] <Lunar_Lamp> Indeed crimsun, I'd quite like one of those too ;-)
[08:07] <Arwen> Lunar_Lamp, so?
[08:08] <Lunar_Lamp> Arwen, holographic technology isn't up to it yet :-(
[08:08] <Arwen> :-(
[08:08] <draik> How do I change the resolution of my login screen. I'm using 1280x1024 and the screen seems WAY over that setting. I have to move my mouse to the end of the screen to move around to the login section.
[08:08] <Arwen> draik, eh, sounds like broken drivers
[08:08] <Kjellviz> where can i change "default programs" in kde ? (i want to change what torrent program is used by default)
[08:09] <draik> Arwen: Not surprised.
[08:09] <draik> I'm starting to regret my upgrade from Edgy to Feisty
[08:09] <nosrednaekim> I never upgrade... I just do fresh installs
[08:10] <middleton> ih
[08:10] <middleton> I don't have border with beryl!!!
[08:10] <middleton> what was that garb something that I had to add?
[08:11] <draik> middleton: I just reload the app or beryl
[08:12] <middleton> draik: no there was something about GARB in xorg I need to add to change
[08:12] <middleton> I just forgot exactly what with a Geforce 5200
[08:12] <XVampireX_> gonna restart soon we'll see how fast this thing goes on :D
[08:12] <draik> !beryl | middleton
[08:12] <ubotu> middleton: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:16] <devnull> !ati
[08:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:16] <middleton> this one ? Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[08:17] <nosrednaekim> yeah.
[08:17] <nosrednaekim> middleton: if you have an nvidia card
[08:18] <middleton> nosrednaekim: well I just did this sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[08:18] <middleton> is that the same?
[08:18] <middleton> yep it's the same
[08:20] <abrahao> How can I save the changes in live cd?
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> abrahao: your can't
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> *you
[08:22] <abrahao> tks
[08:23] <crocodile> I have compiz running just fine, my question is how do I use all the different features of it?  I can enable/disable things in the config panel but it doesn't have tooltips on how to actually use them
[08:23] <Arwen> crocodile, basically, you have to read the descriptions or the docs. The control panel is a work in process.
[08:23] <DanaKil> hi
[08:23] <nosrednaekim> crocodile: thats why I use beryl, because it displays all the shortcuts
[08:24] <crocodile> nosrednaekim: this is a lot more optimized than beryl for me, running much smoother
[08:24] <devnull> heh I love ati -_-
[08:24] <abrahao> nosrednaekim - even in a cdrw with a cdr recorder?
[08:24] <nosrednaekim> abrahao: yeah.
[08:25] <crocodile> Arwen: darn, well at least its a solid answer thanks :X
[08:25] <abrahao> thanks
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> if you have files and things you can always put them on a USB stick
[08:25] <ubuntu> kuku
[08:27] <Kjellviz> crocodile: where did u get compiz fusion ?
[08:27] <crocodile> from the repositories ;)
[08:27] <crocodile> getting you a link, 1 sec
[08:28] <Kjellviz> sweet tnx
[08:28] <crocodile> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481615
[08:28] <Kjellviz> thanks =D
[08:28] <nosrednaekim> oh..compizfusion? cool..
[08:28] <Kjellviz> btw what is katapult ?
[08:28] <nosrednaekim> i'm getting that!
[08:28] <aleksanteri> a launcher
[08:29] <Arwen> say, compiz fusion is the name of the beryl/compiz merger right?
[08:29] <crocodile> yep Arwen
[08:29] <aleksanteri> oh i thought it'd come coral
[08:29] <Kjellviz> aleksanteri: what is a launcher and what does it launch ? ><
[08:29] <omega__> hello to all again
[08:29] <aleksanteri> lol
[08:29] <crocodile> i press alt-space and katapult opens but dosnt do anything :X
[08:30] <omega__> i'm the new one in linux
[08:30] <aleksanteri> Kjellviz: first start katapult, then press alt-space, write the application's name that you want to start and press enter and it will open for you
[08:30] <crocodile> nice one
[08:30] <omega__> how can i install samba?
[08:31] <nosrednaekim> omega__: I think its already installed
[08:31] <Arwen> omega__, apt-get install samba smbfs
[08:31] <Kjellviz> aha that explains it
[08:32] <omega__> tanks arwen :)
[08:32] <Kjellviz> thanks a lot
[08:32] <Kjellviz> that was the tip of the day!
[08:33] <omega__> so i think to nosrednaekim
[08:33] <omega__> but it doesn't work
[08:34] <Arwen> omega__, explain how it doesn't work. But no, samba is not preinstalled, only the client.
[08:34] <zinden> hello, i need some help with firefox.....my search engines on upper right corner is gone. using gran turismo latest
[08:35] <binks> Ryiel: got it working m8 thanks for everything it was the key found one on a russian site :):)
[08:35] <nosrednaekim> zinden: #firefox
[08:35] <ubuntu> sex
[08:35] <ubuntu> sex
[08:35] <ubuntu> sex
[08:35] <ubuntu> sex
[08:36] <omega__> it says that samba and nfs servers are not instaled
[08:36] <omega__> arwen
[08:36] <crocodile> zinden - right click and configure.. and isn't gran turismo a playstation game?
[08:37] <omega__> i'm gone be right back arwen
[08:37] <zinden> crocodile: lol, yes...i ment gran paradiso :)  and i cant do that....as they arent there
[08:37] <kraut> moin
[08:37] <omega__> gone for a smoke'
[08:37] <zinden> crocodile: i think there is in firefox regular folder....dont know where in computer to look
[08:38] <crocodile> load firefox and right click the menu bar, choose configure
[08:38] <crocodile> you change the appearance there
[08:38] <crocodile> *customize rather
[08:42] <Kjellviz> i installed kde-desktop on ubuntu, and it seems its still using the gnome tool for choosing screensavers
[08:43] <Kjellviz> whatever i do in desktop system settings in kde, it does not change my screensaver
[08:43] <Kjellviz> any ideas ?
[08:43] <aleksanteri> remove gnome?
[08:43] <aleksanteri> :P
[08:43] <Kjellviz> that could solve it, but ive got some progs that i suspect need gnome to run
[08:43] <Kjellviz> ><
[08:44] <aleksanteri> remove them too :P
[08:44] <uros> hi all.
[08:44] <Kjellviz> helpfull today ?
[08:44] <nosrednaekim> if you are going to be kubuntu user..... BE A KUBTUTU USER! ;)
[08:45] <uros> my ext.drive won't automount anymore, i have to mount it by hand (and using sudo).
[08:45] <aleksanteri> kubtutu?
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: just use the gnome tool then
[08:45] <Kjellviz> im not
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> aleksanteri: heh
[08:45] <Kjellviz> im a ubuntu user that is trying kde
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: hehe... sorry I was just kidding.
[08:45] <Kjellviz> whats the gnome tool called ?
[08:46] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: no clue... it should be somewhere in the kmenu though
[08:47] <Kjellviz> hmmk
[08:47] <Kjellviz> something tells me i should have just installed kubuntu instead of ubuntu and then adding kde ><
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: did you do "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"?
[08:48] <Kjellviz> kde-desktop i think
[08:48] <Kjellviz> but else, yes
[08:48] <aleksanteri> when trying gnome i first installed kubuntu, then installed gnome and removed kde and everything was fine
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: ah... run that command I gave you.....
[08:48] <aleksanteri> except that i still had the ubuntu bootsplash that is :P
[08:48] <juan278> how do i pair a phone with my pc?
[08:49] <aleksanteri> kubuntu!! *
[08:49] <piterson> ???
[08:49] <Kjellviz> its all installed it says
[08:50] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: you did that?
[08:50] <Kjellviz> ran the command
[08:50] <Kjellviz> it says its all installed and up 2 date
[08:50] <Ryiel> binks: congrats, i did nothing :D
[08:50] <Kjellviz> but its kinda fubar
[08:50] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: no joy with the screen saver though?
[08:50] <Kjellviz> cos the kde settings is 1 desktop
[08:51] <Kjellviz> but i have 4 ><
[08:51] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: interesting.
[08:51] <binks> you pointed me alot cheers and the case sensitive .kaffeine was your fix :)
[08:51] <Kjellviz> ohhh thats prob compiz
[08:51] <binks> Ryiel: now for mythtv :)
[08:51] <Kjellviz> nvm the workspaces
[08:51] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: you're not running beryl are you?
[08:51] <Kjellviz> no, compiz
[08:51] <nosrednaekim> ah.. right
[08:52] <Kjellviz> an older version, not the new compiz fusion
[08:52] <Ryiel> binks: go for it. I stick to kaffeine, it works and easy
[08:52] <Schuenemann> !wma
[08:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:52] <binks> how do i record in kaffeine
[08:53] <Ryiel> tell me your experiences with mythtv later ;)
[08:53] <Ryiel> that little floppy disc icon :D
[08:53] <Ryiel> or you can use timed record
[08:53] <Ryiel> just set it up first in options
[08:54] <Schuenemann> which package I have to install in order to play wma? the wiki isn't clear
[08:55] <nosrednaekim> I think xine-extracodecs gets it.
[08:55] <binks> ok cheers :) and i will also ill get you access to a uk sat forum (closed doors atm) very good with the encryption stuff if ya like
[08:55] <nosrednaekim> *libxine
[08:55] <Schuenemann> I already have that, but I think it's for mp3
[08:55] <nosrednaekim> Schuenemann: welll.... wma plays for me.
[08:56] <Schuenemann> with only that package?
[08:56] <Schuenemann> !w32
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <Schuenemann> !w32codec
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <Schuenemann> !w32codecs
[08:56] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[08:57] <GrahamA> Schuenemann: You need to install w32codecs which by default isn't in the ubuntu repository, try adding medibuntu
[08:57] <GrahamA> Though medibuntu for me is very slow, so I disable it when I'm not using it.
[08:57] <Schuenemann> hmm
[08:57] <Ryiel> just simply do not use wma :D
[08:57] <Ryiel> isnt vlc playing it?
[08:57] <Ryiel> *doesnt
[08:57] <Schuenemann> let me try
[08:57] <GrahamA> Schuenemann: Trust me :)
[08:57] <Ryiel> try vlc
[08:58] <Schuenemann> GrahamA, I trust you, but testing vlc is quicker heh
[08:58] <devnull> unfortunately alot of popular sites use wmvs...
[08:58] <Schuenemann> nope, vlc doesn't play it
[08:58] <GrahamA> Schuenemann: Nooo... anything but VLC!
[08:59] <devnull> <3 mplayer
[08:59] <GrahamA> Love xine/amarok.
[08:59] <Schuenemann> GrahamA, I just have to add 'medibuntu' ?
[08:59] <Kjellviz> in kubuntu/ubuntu
[08:59] <Schuenemann> deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse medibuntu
[08:59] <Arwen> VLC can't play WMA
[08:59] <Arwen> period
[08:59] <Arwen> or at least, the distro's crappy VLC can't
[09:00] <GrahamA> !medibuntu
[09:00] <Kjellviz> hows the best way to go about reinstalling without loosing to much settings and documents ?
[09:00] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[09:00] <Arwen> !medibuntu | Schuenemann
[09:00] <Arwen> read that please
[09:00] <ubotu> Schuenemann: please see above
[09:00] <Arwen> no...
[09:00] <Schuenemann> the bot is smart
[09:00] <GrahamA> Schuenemann: I love the bot, I just hate some of the people who use it.
[09:00] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[09:00] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[09:00] <Arwen> Kjellviz, migrate your /home to a separate partition
[09:00] <ubuntu> woot, so i lost my linux virginity today *giggle*squirt*lights cig*
[09:00] <GrahamA> :D
[09:01] <GrahamA> ubuntu: Fucking hell...
[09:01] <ubuntu> how do i go about getting my custom settings commited to a custom livecd?
[09:01] <Kjellviz> Arwen: sweet thanks
[09:01] <GrahamA> And nobody give me !language
[09:01] <Schuenemann> echo "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ edgy free non-free" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:01] <PriceChild> !Ohmy | GrahamA
[09:01] <ubotu> GrahamA: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:01] <Schuenemann> this will append?
[09:01] <GrahamA> OR THAT!
[09:01] <titans> !fonts
[09:01] <Kjellviz> Arwen: guess it cannot be a windows partition ? ><
[09:01] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:01] <Schuenemann> append that string to sources.list ?
[09:02] <athena> ick, talking over tor while using BT is unacceptably slow
[09:02] <noobuntu> owned by sum1 else?
[09:02] <GrahamA> ubuntu: I've seen you here alot, are you saying you've only TODAY installed Linux?
[09:02] <noobuntu> gotta be kiding me
[09:02] <Kjellviz> also, is the 7.10 alpha up for grabs anywhere ?
[09:02] <noobuntu> nah, i just run it off a disk
[09:03] <noobuntu> funny though
[09:03] <noobuntu> default ircnick for Konversation=ubuntu
[09:03] <GrahamA> noobuntu: OIC
[09:03] <nosrednaekim> for me it was my user name
[09:03] <codemonke> More fun w/ nvidia cards
[09:03] <noobuntu> wanna get this thing to automatically boot apache/mysql/php
[09:04] <Schuenemann> GrahamA, I got some 404 not found
[09:04] <noobuntu> how do i commit my installations or install scripts and build a new cd
[09:04] <noobuntu> image.
[09:04] <GrahamA> Schuenemann: Some 404? Don't tell my mom!
[09:04] <GrahamA> !medibuntu
[09:04] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[09:04] <codemonke> So I'm haviing issues getting the nvidia driver to work.  So just for the time being I changed the xorg.conf to use the vesa driver.
[09:04] <Schuenemann> GrahamA, I did what was written there
[09:04] <GrahamA> Schuenemann: Open adept manager
[09:05] <codemonke> I can boot in recovery, run X -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and it works
[09:05] <codemonke> telinit 3, and I get my desktop w/ the vesa driver.
[09:05] <athena> codemonke, you know, you could just use the nv driver..
[09:05] <codemonke> But I still get a blank screen if I boot in normal mode
[09:05] <Schuenemann> GrahamA, how about that part-installation?
[09:05] <GrahamA> athena: I doubt it, vesa is for ATI cards :)
[09:06] <GrahamA> Just do it.
[09:06] <crocodile> when I run emerald, I get this error constantly:      (emerald:18768): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> GrahamA: its for all cards
[09:06] <athena> but he said he had issues with nvidia, lol
[09:06] <athena> and yeah, vesa is generic
[09:06] <codemonke> I don't the the nv driver doesn't work w/ the 8800.
[09:06] <Schuenemann> GrahamA, ok, I opened
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> codemonke: oh... the 8800..
[09:06] <athena> lol @ 8800
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> you have to get the beta driver for that
[09:06] <athena> FAIL :-P
[09:06] <GrahamA> Go to adept > manage repositores.
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> or the newly release 100.xx.xx
[09:07] <GrahamA> codemonke: Try nvidia-glx-new
[09:07] <codemonke> I did
[09:07] <Schuenemann> medibuntu is there
[09:07] <codemonke> I was using the 9755 w/ other distributions just fine
[09:07] <GrahamA> Schuenemann: Done? Click on third-party tab... ok.
[09:07] <codemonke> Reguardless though, the vesa driver should at leasst work
[09:08] <Schuenemann> where is that tab?
[09:08] <GrahamA> kbuntu software | third party software | updates
[09:08] <GrahamA> Is the box next to medibuntu checked?
[09:08] <codemonke> And it does work if I boot in recovery, and then switch to run level 3.  But not if I boot in normal mode
[09:08] <Schuenemann> I don't see any of that
[09:08] <Schuenemann> I'm on edgy, btw
[09:08] <Dusk_> does anyone know how can i install my usb adsl modem on kubuntu???
[09:09] <GrahamA> Edgy doesn' have that.
[09:09] <Schuenemann> GrahamA, there is no box
[09:09] <Schuenemann> hmm
[09:09] <GrahamA> Right click and enable it.
[09:09] <Schuenemann> enable what? there isn't a box
[09:09] <GrahamA> right CLICK ON MEDIBUNTU!
[09:10] <Schuenemann> disable, clone or remove
[09:10] <GrahamA> It's enabled, aske somebody else.
[09:10] <GrahamA> I don't know.
[09:10] <Schuenemann> of course it's enabled
[09:12] <Schuenemann> !lock
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <devnull> !mediabuntu
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mediabuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <athena> Schuenemann, you FAIL. Pastebin your sources.list
[09:12] <devnull> !medibuntu
[09:12] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[09:12] <aleksanteri> !medibuntu
[09:12] <Schuenemann> athena, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27053/
[09:13] <devnull> lol such a dumb way
[09:13] <devnull> echo "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:13] <devnull> why not just : sudo echo "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:13] <Schuenemann> I think that command erased my last line
[09:13] <athena> Schuenemann, ... you need a blank line between entries.... look at your lsat one
[09:13] <azzco> Err I've got no sound from kde notifications :S help?
[09:14] <athena> or, rather, you need a newline
[09:14] <codemonke> brb, need to turn on my router
[09:14] <Schuenemann> athena, that command messed it... sgh
[09:14] <azzco> I've got sound from amarok but not from kopete notifications, test sound in sound system doesn't work either
[09:15] <Schuenemann> athena, what is the correct?
[09:15] <Schuenemann> I mean, when does the 1st line end?
[09:16] <athena> Schuenemann, after msic/
[09:16] <athena> misc*
[09:16] <Schuenemann> k
[09:16] <athena> deb http://packages.medibuntu.org edgy free non-free should be on its own line
[09:17] <noobuntu> can sum1 suggest an ftp client?
[09:17] <aleksanteri> filezilla
[09:17] <Schuenemann> I get that error of non-verified signature
[09:17] <Schuenemann> I can ignore that, right?
[09:18] <azzco> There's a kde ftp progra... but you can allways use konqueror instead
[09:18] <XVampireX> !nvidia
[09:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:18] <vbgunz> how do I get every openoffice app to show up in my menu? do I need to install anything?
[09:18] <noobuntu> doesnt look like the konqueror allows cue's
[09:18] <XVampireX> How do I get 8800 GTX working?
[09:18] <Schuenemann> athena, so, which package do I need?
[09:19] <athena> Schuenemann, I lost track of the original question. I think it's w32codecs if you're the one asking about wma.
[09:19] <Sayers> How hard would it be to stream music through kubunutu?
[09:19] <athena> not very...
[09:19] <Milux> hello! i can't see correctly the ...letters with kvirc. I tried UTF-8 and ISO 8859-1. What i do?
[09:19] <azzco> KDE sound system doesn't work with alsa? o.O
[09:19] <Schuenemann> that's it, thanks
[09:19] <Schuenemann> installing
[09:19] <Sayers> athena: is there a guide ?
[09:20] <aleksanteri> azzco: for me it doesn't, worked a while ago (few days that is ^^) then all went mute for some reason
[09:20] <Schuenemann> Milux, kvirc sucks
[09:20] <athena> Sayers, uh... not that I know, but you need the ice server if you wanna try
[09:20] <aleksanteri> Schuenemann: you suck then :P
[09:20] <Sayers> :(
[09:20] <azzco> Weird now it works... hasn't been working for about a month :o
[09:20] <Schuenemann> me? =] 
[09:20] <Milux> Schuenemann: what's the best?
[09:21] <aleksanteri> kvirc doesn't suck =)
[09:21] <Schuenemann> Milux, I prefer konversation
[09:21] <Schuenemann> aleksanteri, that it must have changed slightly
[09:21] <Milux> i tried konversantion.. i don't like it
[09:21] <aleksanteri> what version of kvirc you tried by then?
[09:21] <Milux> aleksanteri: you use kvirc?
[09:21] <athena> Sayers, try installing icecast-server - it's a shoutcast compatible server, but I have no idea how to use it
[09:21] <aleksanteri> Milux: yepperz
[09:22] <Milux> aleksanteri: 3.2.4 on ubuntu 7.04
[09:22] <Schuenemann> aleksanteri, long ago (red hat 7 I think), but it was totally horrible
[09:22] <aleksanteri> lol it's improved a lot :P
[09:22] <Schuenemann> does it look like mirc? I wanted one like it
[09:22] <athena> lol @ mirc...
[09:22] <aleksanteri> lol...
[09:22] <Schuenemann> come on, mirc is good
[09:22] <narcispy> sup everyone
[09:23] <Linracoon> Does anyone know if is possible to put working a USB wireless adapter?
[09:23] <narcispy> sure its possible
[09:23] <narcispy> its based on the chipset
[09:23] <athena> Linracoon, very unlikely, but a couple work.
[09:23] <athena> I recommend buying a real wifi card...
[09:23] <Milux> kvirc is not bad, but i can't solve this problem
[09:23] <aleksanteri> oh the problem
[09:24] <narcispy> does anyone have ubuntu with an ati x series card and can help me getting mine working properly
[09:24] <aleksanteri> i use utf-8 and it works
[09:24] <athena> narcispy, I do, but mine is an X300SE so it probably doesn't count.
[09:24] <Milux> aleksanteri: version?
[09:24] <Schuenemann> Milux, you can't see this --> o sapo no lava o p
[09:24] <aleksanteri> 3.2.4 on ubuntu 6.06
[09:24] <Schuenemann> ?
[09:24] <Milux> Schuenemann: no
[09:24] <narcispy> it might... are you using flgrx drivers athena?
[09:24] <Milux> :-(
[09:24] <aleksanteri> Schuenemann: that one i can't see
[09:24] <athena> nope, I used to though, what do you need?
[09:24] <Schuenemann> weird
[09:25] <narcispy> i have a problem getting it working properly, like 3d effects dont work at all
[09:25] <Schuenemann> I'm using ISO-8859-1
[09:25] <aleksanteri> Milux: try ISO-8859-4
[09:25] <athena> narcispy, .....did you remember to disable composite?
[09:25] <Milux> aleksanteri: ...4?
[09:25] <narcispy> disable composite where
[09:25] <aleksanteri> ya
[09:25] <narcispy> xorg?
[09:25] <Milux> aleksanteri: ok
[09:25] <athena> and does the driver itself work? or are you having problems setting it up?
[09:25] <aleksanteri> always use it as a fallback if they don't work :P
[09:25] <athena> narcispy, xorg.conf
[09:26] <Schuenemann> athena, I still can't play wma
[09:26] <narcispy> um i have been though it a few times with 3 different distros getting it to work and it still won't, i have played around with xorg all day and driver install and still no luck
[09:26] <Milux> aleksanteri: i can try now
[09:26] <athena> Schuenemann, after installing w32codecs? what media player are you using?
[09:26] <Schuenemann> amarok
[09:26] <Linracoon> athena: can you be more specific?
[09:26] <Schuenemann> it doesn't echo any error, just tries to play and stops at the same time
[09:27] <athena> Linracoon, about what?
[09:27] <Milux> Schuenemann: write some letters ...
[09:27] <Schuenemann> but I can watch and hear wma in kaffeine
[09:27] <Schuenemann> Milux, you can't see this --> o sapo no lava o p
[09:27] <athena> Schuenemann, uh huh.... weird....
[09:27] <Milux> puh
[09:27] <Milux> no
[09:27] <Schuenemann> don't you have to reconnect Milux ?
[09:27] <athena> no idea what to say, guess your amarok is broken
[09:27] <aleksanteri> i can see it now
[09:27] <Milux> Schuenemann: i don't know
[09:27] <aleksanteri> no you don't have to reconnect
[09:27] <narcispy> my xorg says im using the "ati" driver
[09:28] <athena> wma kinda sucks you know... you sure you don't have a master source or something you could rip to Vorbis or MPEG-4 AAC?
[09:28] <Milux> i try reconnect
[09:28] <athena> narcispy, uh huh.... so you don't even have the proprietary drivers installed...
[09:28] <athena> this is gonna take a lot of work...................
[09:28] <narcispy> i do but it doesnt recognize them
[09:28] <Schuenemann> athena, I know it sucks... but I might need it
[09:28] <narcispy> if i switch to fglrx my screen is blank after grub
[09:28] <Schuenemann> I don't want to convert them everytime I get them
[09:28] <athena> Schuenemann, I guess amarok just can't play them then? sorry, it's beyond me
[09:29] <athena> narcispy, please join #anon32 , this is gonna take a looong looong time
[09:29] <Milux> here i'm
[09:29] <narcispy> k
[09:29] <Schuenemann> I have played them in amarok before
[09:29] <Schuenemann> I don't remember if I was using dapper or edgy, though
[09:31] <lord_earthship> how can i save my nick????
[09:31] <Schuenemann> athena, remove and install amarok seems a reasonable attempt
[09:31] <Schuenemann> that was a question
[09:31] <aleksanteri> lord_earthship: /msg nickserv help
[09:31] <athena> Schuenemann, you can go for it if you want
[09:32] <omid> what is up
[09:33] <Schuenemann> Milux, is it working now?
[09:33] <Milux> Schuenemann: i'm testing now
[09:33] <Schuenemann> sof caf mo
[09:34] <Milux> ok
[09:34] <Milux> it's righ
[09:34] <Milux> Schuenemann: mas vc fala portugues?
[09:35] <Schuenemann> im
[09:35] <Schuenemann> sim*
[09:35] <Milux> so i
[09:36] <Milux> :-)
[09:36] <aleksanteri> :)
[09:36] <Schuenemann> =D
[09:37] <kcfoxie> morning/evening/afternoon folks!
[09:38] <TeraDyne> Quick question. What's the command to play an OGG audio file from the terminal?
[09:39] <codemonky> Is there a kde interface to "Restricted Drivers" in kubuntu like the gnome one in ubuntu?
[09:39] <athena> ogg123 or mplayer
[09:39] <athena> codemonky, no
[09:39] <TeraDyne> thanks, athena
[09:44] <__-osh-__> Anyone good at programming here? Where do I start looking if I want to capture text from a textfield in a 3:rd party application?
[09:45] <__-osh-__> It's not a webb-app unfortunatly. :-/
[09:45] <ardchoille> gettext();  ?
[09:45] <ardchoille> Just a guess as my skills are quite rusty
[09:47] <__-osh-__> I'll have a look at it. Not sure how to get gettext() to read from a specific field in this application, but it's a good place to start. Thanks.
[09:50] <Tm_T> PIPBoy_: just install it
[09:51] <PIPBoy_> install what?
[09:51] <Tm_T> 22:49 < PIPBoy_> hi all, is there a link for installing KDE aside from the GNOME? like an apt-get or something like that?
[09:51] <PIPBoy_> ok, so what you want me to install kubuntu?
[09:51] <Tm_T> kubuntu-desktop
[09:51] <psicobra> hi all
[09:52] <TeraDyne> PIPBoy, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:52] <Tm_T> PIPBoy_: btw what did you mean by "so pro" ?
[09:52] <psicobra> is the nly difference between unbuntu and kubuntu kde and gnome
[09:52] <kcfoxie> anyone use moto4lin?
[09:52] <psicobra> mope
[09:52] <psicobra> nope
[09:52] <Tm_T> psicobra: yes, GNOME is different from KDE in many ways, try and see.
[09:52] <TeraDyne> psicobra, there are also different applications installed by default.
[09:52] <psicobra> i have always liked kde
[09:53] <psicobra> gtg reboot needed
[09:53] <Tm_T> kcfoxie: what poll is that?
[09:54] <kcfoxie> it's a program that lets you connect to the filesys on your motorola phone
[09:54] <kcfoxie> i've having a devil of a time getting it working in kubuntu dapper
[09:54] <XVampireX> can anyone here help me with installing drivers for 8800 GTX?
[09:54] <kcfoxie> i'm starting to think it's because I am on PowerPC hardware.
[09:54] <PIPBoy_> Tm_T: dont worry about it, nothing towards you
[09:54] <Tm_T> XVampireX: hum?
[09:54] <illriginal> I have a question!... Is it normal for my RAM to shoot up to 400-800MB of memory? It's staying at 400mb steadily.
[09:54] <XVampireX> Tm_T: I'm installing whatever version and it doesn't want to go to X :(
[09:54] <Tm_T> PIPBoy_: well, I don't care who's towards it was, it's not right attitude if you like to have some help
[09:55] <Tm_T> XVampireX: even -new?
[09:55] <XVampireX> yeah
[09:55] <Tm_T> interesting
[09:55] <XVampireX> even self compiled
[09:55] <TeraDyne> illriginal, it depends on what apps are running.
[09:55] <Tm_T> illriginal: how you measure?
[09:55] <PIPBoy_> Tm_T: ok, that was not anything negative towards the redirect if your thinking thats what it was
[09:55] <illriginal> uhm... Beryl, Gaim, Firefox, Xchat, and my adesklets.
[09:55] <XVampireX> please I need help :(
[09:55] <illriginal> TM_T it's on my memory monitor.
[09:56] <Tm_T> illriginal: and how that measure?
[09:56] <illriginal> tm_t... I don't understand that question.
[09:56] <Tm_T> illriginal: actually, open konsole and run "free -m"
[09:56] <illriginal> ok
[09:56] <Tm_T> illriginal: look -/+ line
[09:57] <illriginal> Mem:          1003        878        125
[09:57] <Tm_T> XVampireX: hum, what does nvidia site tell about it?
[09:57] <narcispy_> athena im back
[09:57] <Dusk_> could you plz help me about the usb adsl modem??
[09:57] <Dusk_>  can't get any link
[09:57] <Tm_T> illriginal: look -/+ line
[09:57] <illriginal> -/+ buffers/cache:        213        790
[09:57] <athena> narcispy, so you are
[09:57] <Dusk_> i can't get any link
[09:57] <athena> did it not work?
[09:57] <narcispy> and it doesnt work lol
[09:57] <XVampireX> Tm_T: That it should work...
[09:57] <Tm_T> illriginal: ok, there you go, only 213 M used
[09:57] <Dusk_> i installed pppoe packages
[09:57] <athena> narcispy, pastebin the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:57] <Dusk_> but no link
[09:57] <narcispy> k
[09:57] <Tm_T> XVampireX: then no idea except look xorg logs
[09:57] <athena> (but only if you haven't restarted X)
[09:58] <illriginal> ah i see... so my system monitor adesklet is stupidly incorrect. lol
[09:58] <Tm_T> illriginal: well, it counts buffers and cache too
[09:58] <Tm_T> illriginal: so yes, it tells foofoo
[09:58] <illriginal> understood.
[09:58] <psicobra> k so if i install the nvidia driver through the package manager do i have to edit xorf.conf or is it auto?
[09:58] <illriginal> thank you tm_t :P
[09:58] <comosicus> i whant to install a better version of video activex becouse i have a program that allow me to use windows aplication on linux...but when i try to install that new version  i can't becouse i must uninstall the old version.......but i dont find the old version of video activex
[09:59] <Tm_T> psicobra: you need to activate it
[09:59] <narcispy> athena:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27060/
[09:59] <psicobra> Tm_T: how do i do that?
[09:59] <Tm_T> !nvidia | psicobra
[09:59] <ubotu> psicobra: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:00] <Tm_T> comosicus: activex? in Linux?
[10:00] <titans> !cellphone
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cellphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <comosicus> yessss
[10:00] <titans> !iphone
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <comosicus> activex in linux
[10:00] <athena> narcispy, you switched back to the "ati" driver... now that log is useless
[10:00] <titans> yooo what's that cellphone package
[10:00] <titans> !bluetooth
[10:00] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:01] <Tm_T> comosicus: sounds quite impossible, except what Wine has builtin perhaps (and so on)
[10:01] <narcispy> athena:  i had to, there was no other way to get back to using this
[10:01] <athena> ...........
[10:01] <athena> boot a live cd and fetch the file then, I don't care how, without that log, nothing can be diagnosed
[10:01] <titans> !mobile
[10:01] <narcispy> okay
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <Tm_T> !botabuse | titans
[10:02] <ubotu> titans: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:02] <titans> retard
[10:02] <Tm_T> titans: who is?
[10:02] <narcispy> athena brb then
[10:02] <comosicus> impossible?!!! i can run any windows aplication in linux.......but whatever....the question is how do i find an aplication lost somewhere in linux?
[10:03] <aleksanteri> $ locate appname.ext
[10:03] <aleksanteri> ^^ in terminal without the $
[10:03] <Tm_T> comosicus: yes, you run windows applications in Linux using Wine
[10:03] <titans> how about fine-tuning ubotu? Is not that the AI code is not out there
[10:03] <Tm_T> comosicus: so it's up to Wine to have activex
[10:03] <Tm_T> titans: hum?
[10:03] <comosicus> how do i find.........
[10:04] <aleksanteri> "locate filename.ext" in terminal
[10:04] <titans> I am trying to find that package for synching mobiles with bluetooth
[10:04] <PIPBoy_> Tm_T: Hey thanks for the help! im out
[10:04] <Tm_T> titans: then, check that site ubotu offers if you need factoid, or search packages.ubuntu.com or search help.ubuntu.com/community
[10:05] <Tm_T> titans: but don't abuse bot
[10:05] <titans> that's actually not the solution
[10:05] <Tm_T> and why is that?
[10:06] <titans> which one is better pidgin or koppete?
[10:06] <Tm_T> Kopete ofcourse, if you ask here
[10:06] <titans> Tm_T: because the bot should be more intelligent, I mean cmon we already got dual-core procs
[10:07] <Tm_T> titans: so we should not demand intelligence from users? (;
[10:08] <TeraDyne> Tm_T, those demands usually go unanswered anyway...
[10:08] <comosicus> nobody..........
[10:08] <Tm_T> comosicus: what
[10:08] <Tm_T> athena: krhm
[10:08] <titans> what are you impling??
[10:08] <athena> nothing :-P
[10:08] <TeraDyne> athena, no, we shouldn't. We should ban them after one notice, and then rub it in their face afterwards.
[10:08] <comosicus> how di i find a aplication lost somewhere in linux?
[10:09] <athena> TeraDyne, hehe
[10:09] <Tm_T> comosicus: 23:04 < aleksanteri> "locate filename.ext" in terminal
[10:09] <athena> !en | comosicus
[10:09] <ubotu> comosicus: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[10:09] <comosicus> yes but i allready try that and nothing
[10:09] <comosicus> problem with my language?
[10:09] <titans> this is my vision, instead of the stupid ubotuu giving yuo the link open a priv answering every question and if it's a how to give the instructions to you according to your questions. That shouldn't be hard
[10:10] <Tm_T> comosicus: well, humm, updatedb
[10:10] <comosicus> ooooooo
[10:10] <comosicus> hard solution.....an easy oane is not?
[10:11] <Tm_T> titans: 1) ubotu is not stupid  2) this conversation doesn't help here
[10:11] <ubuntu_> I tried to install the ATI proprietary drivers, and after the restart, I can't start X.
[10:11] <athena> ubuntu_, is it you? mount your install partition and pastebin the logfile...
[10:11] <Tm_T> ubuntu_: grep EE /var/log/xorg.0.log in konsole
[10:11] <Schuenemann> can I record feisty ISO in a DVD instead of a CD?
[10:11] <Schuenemann> and install it
[10:12] <athena> Schuenemann, yes
[10:12] <Schuenemann> how about a pen drive?
[10:12] <Schuenemann> it would be faster
[10:13] <athena> Schuenemann, 1) no it wouldn't. and 2) not worth the effort.
[10:13] <nosrednaekim> compiz fusion is faster than beryl
[10:13] <titans> anyone/anybody know that package name to sync mobiles?
[10:13] <titans> thanks
[10:13] <nosrednaekim> titans: like palms?
[10:14] <Tm_T> titans: depends what mobile phone, once again, wiki etc are good sources
[10:14] <titans> nosrednaekim: I guess with bluetooth
[10:14] <comosicus> i have wine and i'm using an old version of video activex....i whant to install a new version but i must uninstall the old oane.....i don't know how to do that
[10:14] <nosrednaekim> titans: Oh, I don't know how to do bluetooth
[10:14] <comosicus> untill i'll get the answere the new version that i try to install it will be old version  :)
[10:14] <nosrednaekim> !bluetooth | titans
[10:14] <ubotu> titans: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[10:15] <noobuntu> how do i get my ntfs disks to be writeable to?
[10:15] <titans> ubotu: that's only for bluetooth driver
[10:15] <titans> I need that sofware
[10:15] <Tm_T> comosicus: no idea, I think #winehq is best bet
[10:15] <narcispy> athena: what was the location of that log file again?
[10:15] <comosicus> thanks
[10:15] <Tm_T> titans: as said, depends what device you have
[10:15] <athena> narcispy, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:16] <narcispy> k
[10:16] <titans> Tm_T: oh really? Like the phone brand? I thought it was an unified program
[10:16] <athena> ya know... this isn't getting anywhere, and I probably couldn't help ya anyway. I give up.
[10:16] <Tm_T> titans: what was?
[10:16] <titans> Tm_T: got it kmobiletools
[10:17] <Tm_T> titans: doesn't work with every phone
[10:17] <titans> Tm_T: which other package would I need then?
[10:18] <Tm_T> titans: depends what device you have
[10:18] <narcispy> athena: err... location of the paste log site.... sorry, having trouble right now
[10:19] <psicobra> any one in here have beryl running?
[10:19] <athena> !paste | narcispy
[10:19] <ubotu> narcispy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:19] <athena> psicobra, no, because BERYL IS DEAD
[10:19] <athena> god damn it..
[10:19] <Tm_T> athena: ...
[10:19] <narcispy> oh i didnt know there was a irc command for it on here
[10:19] <psicobra> athena: what on earth makes you say that?
[10:19] <athena> because it *is* dead
[10:19] <athena> compiz replaced it
[10:19] <psicobra> no it's not
[10:19] <athena> YES IT IS
[10:19] <athena> /join #opencompositing
[10:19] <titans> psicobra: yeah it's awsome
[10:19] <athena> it's been deprecated
[10:20] <psicobra> it's still going they have just released ANEW ALPHA
[10:20] <titans> athena: why do you say that?
[10:20] <narcispy> athena: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27062/
[10:20] <athena> BECAUSE IT'S THE TRUTH...  GEEZ
[10:20] <Tm_T> titans: again, search wiki and forums and whatever, with your brand and/or model
[10:20] <athena> http://www.google.com/search?q=beryl+compiz+merger
[10:20] <athena> read it
[10:21] <Tm_T> athena: stop, that doesn't help anyone, as long as beryl is in repositories its "in use"
[10:21] <athena> ...
[10:21] <psicobra> titans: how did you get your menu bar back
[10:21] <titans> psicobra: what menu bar?
[10:21] <psicobra> with the maximise and minimize buttons
[10:21] <titans> my problem is that menu and panel aren't transparent
[10:22] <athena> psicobra, run "emerald"
[10:22] <psicobra> don't think i have that installed
[10:22] <athena> you should, beryl depends on it
[10:22] <psicobra> hmm well the cube works
[10:22] <bryan> Hi
[10:23] <bryan> need some help
[10:23] <Tm_T> !beryl | psicobra
[10:23] <ubotu> psicobra: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:23] <Tm_T> !helpme | bryan
[10:23] <ubotu> bryan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:23] <narcispy> lemme guess you have to have 3d effects working for beryl
[10:23] <bryan> sorry first time
[10:23] <Tm_T> no problems
[10:23] <psicobra> just installing it now
[10:24] <bryan> fm-radio tuner will not work  Could not open device "/dev/radio0" !
[10:24] <psicobra> nice 1
[10:25] <narcispy> athena: lemme know when you got time to look at it
[10:25] <athena> ok ok...
[10:26] <athena> narcispy, is your monitor a CRT display?
[10:26] <narcispy> lcd
[10:26] <draik> How do I get rid of the up arrow on my Taskbar?
[10:26] <athena> hmm
[10:26] <narcispy> 22" ws lcd
[10:26] <athena> you get "no signal" right?
[10:26] <narcispy> right
[10:26] <athena> hmm
[10:26] <Tm_T> draik: what arrow?
[10:26] <nosrednaekim> draik: right click, edit taskbar
[10:27] <titans> can I sync yahoo, hotmail, aol, gmail accounts with Kontact?
[10:27] <titans> thanks
[10:27] <draik> Tm_T: I accidently removed Taskbar and when I added it again, it came along with an up arrow
[10:27] <athena> narcispy, could you tell me what your monitor's specs are (e.g. h and v refresh)
[10:27] <draik> nosrednaekim: right click on what? I don't get that option.
[10:27] <nosrednaekim> draik: is this in konqueror?
[10:27] <titans> so what's the benefit of Fusion?
[10:28] <Tm_T> draik: again, what arrow, pic might help (:
[10:28] <titans> sorry
[10:28] <Tm_T> titans: define "sync"
[10:28] <draik> Done
[10:28] <draik> Thank you nosrednaekim
[10:28] <athena> from the log, it seems to think that you have a 4:3 display with an optimal resolution of 1600x1200
[10:29] <draik> Tm_T: I got it, thank you. It was the Window List button
[10:29] <titans> Tm_T: I wanna read my email in Kontact
[10:29] <Tm_T> draik: ah, that one, one of five options (:
[10:29] <narcispy> athena: yeah its 16:10  1680x1050 native
[10:29] <Linracoon> can anyone help put a us wifi adapter working ?
[10:29] <narcispy> athena: um 31-80khz horizontal, 50-75khz vertical
[10:29] <coreymon77> Linracoon: sure, whats up
[10:30] <athena> oh wait, I was looking at the wrong numbers...
[10:30] <Tm_T> titans: then, I know hotmail doesn't support imap nor pop, but Gmail support pop so that is doable, don't know others
[10:30] <athena> narcispy, anyway, it seems that fglrx is detecting the wrong horizontal and vertical sync rates
[10:30] <draik> Anyone here know how to thank the Dev's of Feisty? My laptop hasn't worked this great since... well, Edgy.
[10:30] <Dusk_> oh at last i could use my usb adsl modem on kubuntu =)))
[10:30] <athena> over ride them in xorg.conf
[10:30] <Linracoon> can anyone help put a USB wifi adapter working ?
[10:30] <Dusk_> great documantation it is
[10:30] <coreymon77> Linracoon: sure, i can help
[10:30] <coreymon77> Linracoon: whats the matter
[10:30] <titans> Tm_T: thanks
[10:30] <abhijit> hi . can i install windows after installing ubuntu without corrupting it
[10:30] <coreymon77> Linracoon: what adapter is this?
[10:30] <nosrednaekim> abhijit: yes
[10:30] <Tm_T> !bugs | draik
[10:30] <draik> everything looks clearer, my laptop doesn't "flicker" at all. It did with Edgy, but not much.
[10:30] <ubotu> draik: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:31] <nosrednaekim> abhijit: but you'll hae to reinstall grub
[10:31] <narcispy> athena okay but i doubt it will help
[10:31] <abhijit> ok
[10:31] <Linracoon> coreymon77: its USB adapter, i just said it
[10:31] <abhijit> i see
[10:31] <draik> Tm_T: It's not a bug or a complaint. It's just really great work
[10:31] <coreymon77> Linracoon: model, company, driver, chipset?
[10:31] <athena> narcispy, worth a shot
[10:31] <acemo> anyone knows why svn import /mnt/hdb1/svn/code/Game file:///mnt/hdb1/svn/repository/Game
[10:31] <acemo> would open nano on the file svn-commit.tmp?
[10:31] <abhijit> thanks nosrednaekim
[10:31] <Tm_T> draik: then send fanmail to fellows who fixed bugs (:
[10:31] <Dusk_> to start kubuntu which adress do i have to look?? for example to learn program installing(like firefox)
[10:31] <Linracoon> SMC 7904wbra2
[10:31] <nosrednaekim> draik: #ubuntu-dev, #kubuntu-dev
[10:31] <coreymon77> Linracoon: company?
[10:31] <athena> under "monitor", add the lines "HorizSync <value>" and "VertRefresh <value>"
[10:31] <Linracoon> SMC
[10:31] <athena> narcispy, ^^
[10:32] <nhy> has anyone compiled compiz fusion?
[10:32] <Tm_T> !compiz | nhy
[10:32] <ubotu> nhy: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:32] <coreymon77> Linracoon: give me a sec
[10:32] <abhijit> wats the simplest way to load grub as i am quite new to the linux interface
[10:32] <nosrednaekim> nhy: really no need there are packages
[10:33] <Tm_T> abhijit: what you mean?
[10:33] <nhy> how does that help
[10:33] <narcispy> athena: just put 31-80 or khz after that or what
[10:33] <Tm_T> nhy: - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:33] <athena> yeah, 31-80
[10:33] <athena> no khz or any other units
[10:33] <narcispy> k added
[10:33] <nhy> I've compiled it on Ubuntu
[10:33] <abhijit> tm_t actually i wanna install xp but i dont wanna corrupt ubuntu as it is cool and i like it
[10:34] <athena> try again, if it doesn't work. go post another copy of the log
[10:34] <nhy> but when I get rid of the --disable-kde it fails
[10:34] <coreymon77> Linracoon: do you know what driver it uses?
[10:34] <Tm_T> nhy: - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:34] <narcispy> athena okay
[10:34] <nhy> I get lots of warnings that/errors that there is an "undefined reference to `vtable for KWD::Decorator'"
[10:34] <nhy> tm_t: this is more of a kde problem
[10:34] <Tm_T> nhy: no, it's compiz problem
[10:34] <nhy> I can compile fine without kde
[10:35] <nhy> its both
[10:35] <Tm_T> still
[10:35] <sinebo> hi
[10:35] <nhy> I'll ask there also
[10:35] <Tm_T> abhijit: hum, when you install xp, *buf* grub is gone, so you need to reinstall it, hum, there is guide somewhere in help.ubuntu.com/community
[10:35] <acemo> anyone can help me with svn import command?
[10:35] <Tm_T> acemo: yes?
[10:35] <abhijit> thanks i will give it a try
[10:36] <coreymon77> Linracoon: so, first try this
[10:36] <Tm_T> acemo: instead of asking to ask, just ask ;)
[10:36] <coreymon77> Linracoon: plug it in
[10:36] <Linracoon> coreymon77: try what?
[10:36] <acemo> svn import /mnt/hdb1/svn/code/Game file:///mnt/hdb1/svn/repository/Game
[10:36] <acemo> opens nano on the file svn-commit.tmp.. any idea if this is normal or am i doing something wrong?
[10:36] <coreymon77> Linracoon: plug the adapter in
[10:36] <Linracoon> coreymon77: and?
[10:37] <coreymon77> Linracoon: and then type lspci
[10:37] <Linracoon> just did
[10:37] <coreymon77> Linracoon: what does it say next to ethernet adapter
[10:37] <acemo> Tm_T: asking doesnt helps so it seems ^.^
[10:37] <coreymon77> i mean
[10:37] <coreymon77> controller
[10:37] <Tm_T> acemo: humm, no idea
[10:38] <Tm_T> acemo: maybe ask some svn channel?
[10:38] <coreymon77> Linracoon: what does it say next to ethernet controller
[10:38] <acemo> Tm_T: if there was a svn channel... :/
[10:39] <Tm_T> !svn
[10:39] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[10:39] <coreymon77> Linracoon: hello?
[10:39] <athena> !cvs
[10:39] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[10:40] <titans> guys is it worth installing Jack Real time plugin?
[10:40] <nhy> how can I fix undefined reference to `vtable for KWD::Decorator'
[10:40] <acemo> Tm_T: doh a hidden channel, didnt knew that was possible :p
[10:41] <coreymon77> Linracoon: try tryping lsusb
[10:41] <Tm_T> heh
[10:44] <ath> can someone tell me how to put a custom icon for the k-menu
[10:45] <Linracoon> coreymon77: where do i paste it?
[10:45] <coreymon77> !pastebin
[10:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:45] <jhutchins> ath: Yes, stand by.
[10:45] <ath> ok, thanks
[10:46] <jhutchins> From the following howto, you should be able to figure out how to do it.  It is for a different distro, so some things might be named differently or in a slightly different place, but you should be able to figure it out.
[10:46] <jhutchins> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases/Mandriva/2007.1/Notes#New_KDE_system_menu_button:_how_to_remove_it
[10:47] <narcispy> !paste
[10:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:47] <ath> thanks jhutchins!
[10:47] <Linracoon> coreymon77: Bus 002 Device 006: ID 083a:4505 Accton Technology Corp.
[10:48] <psicobra> why is the package manager so slow even to the point where it goes dark cause kde thinks it has crashed?
[10:48] <Linracoon> coreymon77: what packages i need to install to have it working?
[10:49] <jhutchins> psicobra: You can use the command line version, it's faster.
[10:49] <jhutchins> psicobra: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[10:49] <jhutchins> psicobra: It's doing a lot of work.
[10:49] <psicobra> i know i can use the command line but it doesnt answer my question as to why it is so slow
[10:50] <psicobra> but i have an amd x2 5200 2 gig of ram
[10:52] <zou> hi all, got a problem
[10:52] <zou> i can't log in to my user account
[10:52] <narcispy> athena: didn't work http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27064/
[10:52] <zou> do you have any ideas on why this is happening?
[10:52] <draik> !classroom
[10:53] <draik> !classroom
[10:53] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[10:54] <zou> anybody?
[10:54] <athena> narcispy, no idea then, there's no errors being printed so I can't come up with any more suggestions...
[10:54] <ciga> hi
[10:55] <narcispy> athena: um.. okay... maybe try a lower refresh rate range? within the allowed one
[10:55] <athena> ye, maybe? I have no idea :-\
[10:56] <narcispy> athena: it's alright, ive tried that before I've been reading forums the last week and a half trying to get it to work
[10:56] <ciga> I use cervisia (cvs) + quanta to develop php code. I'd like to switch to svn, but I don't know if quanta will support that as it does for cvs. Is there also a svn tool for quanta?
[10:57] <coreymon77> Linracoon: im sorry, i have to go
[10:58] <abrahao> hi, how change ip and net manually?
[10:58] <jhutchins> abrahao: man ifconfig
[10:59] <neil_> Hey.. Can anyone help me set up streaming media, ie from the bbc news site/ Videos don't load, I've installed w32codecs, restricted-packages, and tried both gxine and mplayer browser plugins
[11:00] <athena> neil_, from the bbc? and try using mplayer, tell us what errors it prints.
[11:00] <enry> good night!
[11:00] <abrahao> tks
[11:01] <titans> !java
[11:01] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:01] <neil_> athena: mplayer says connecting, then buffering 0%, then just stops...
[11:02] <athena> hmm
[11:02] <neil_> Seems like its just about to work.. then goes to 'stopped'.
[11:02] <titans> hi, I never know what gava do I need for youtube and stuff, java-bin or java-jre ??
[11:03] <athena> THERE IS NO JAVA ON YOUTUBE
[11:03] <titans> I know that java-sdk is for development
[11:03] <athena> thank you
[11:03] <titans> athena: dude chill
[11:03] <jhutchins> neil_: Give us an example link
[11:03] <titans> just axing
[11:03] <neil_> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/default.stm
[11:03] <neil_> click anything on 'video and audio news'
[11:03] <neil_>  Trainee guide dog passes test  ie that
[11:04] <neil_> totem gives this : There is no input plugin to handle the location of this movie
[11:04] <neil_> Totem could not play 'rtsp://wm-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms2/news/media_acl/mps/fix/regions/west_midlands/video/101000/bb/101895_16x9_bb.wmv'
[11:04] <neil_> if that helps
[11:04] <jhutchins> real or windows?  Ah, windows.
[11:05] <neil_> yeah
[11:05] <jhutchins> neil_: What's your connection?
[11:05] <a-865> what deb needs to be added to a default install so nfs mounting works?
[11:06] <neil_> jhutchins: 4mbit virgin media
[11:06] <neil_> Oddly enough, just noticed that realmedia /does/ work, but wmp files dont.....
[11:06] <neil_> I need wmp more though
[11:06] <spider> olaaaa
[11:06] <jhutchins> neil_: Try saving one, then playing it.
[11:07] <neil_> jhutchins: no go
[11:08] <jhutchins> ?
[11:08] <neil_> didnt work :)
[11:08] <jhutchins> !nfs | a-865
[11:08] <neil_> gave me a .asx oddly enough this time, but it didnt play
[11:08] <ubotu> a-865: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[11:09] <neil_> I have to run for a bit, migth be back later :) ty for yer time guys
[11:09] <jhutchins> neil_:  try mplayer rtsp://wm-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms2/news/media_acl/mps/fix/regions/west_midlands/video/101000/bb/101895_16x9_bb.wmv
[11:09] <john_> just installed Kubuntu 7.04 - fonts looks like crap (no other way to say it) - how do i fix that?
[11:10] <neil_> Failed to initiate "video/X-ASF-PF" RTP subsession: RTP payload format unknown or not supported
[11:10] <jhutchins> neil_:  try mplayer -playlist "rtsp://wm-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms2/news/media_acl/mps/fix/regions/west_midlands/video/101000/bb/101895_16x9_bb.wmv"
[11:10] <jhutchins> neil_: Or try it with just the quotes.
[11:11] <basse> mplayer wanted "avisynth.dll" and didn't work
[11:11] <neil_> STREAM_LIVE555, URL: rtsp://wm-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms2/news/media_acl/mps/fix/regions/west_midlands/video/101000/bb/101895_16x9_bb.wmv
[11:11] <neil_> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[11:11] <neil_> lol
[11:11] <neil_> disasterous
[11:11] <neil_> I've always had problems with streams on ubuntu, the only letdown
[11:11] <basse> this is why i watch news from tv
[11:11] <titans> neil_: BBC video streams don't work across linux
[11:12] <titans> neil_: I saw one guy who managed to view them but taking awfully complicated steps
[11:12] <a-865> jhutchins: thx
[11:13] <titans> what's again that codec that I need to play WMA files
[11:13] <titans> Amarok is failing
[11:13] <DanaKil> w32codecs ?
[11:13] <athena> ^^ - and a competent directshow loader
[11:13] <titans> still not workig
[11:14] <athena> then go complain to the amarok people in #amarok
[11:14] <DanaKil> well, I don't think that's amarok's fault :)
[11:15] <jhutchins> !mp3 | titans
[11:15] <ubotu> titans: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:17] <omega__> hy again to all
[11:18] <omega__> i must say that i have 10 hours in front of my lcd loking, exploring,kubuntu
[11:18] <omega__> is something that i can't describe
[11:19] <Tm_T> just say good or bad
[11:19] <nosrednaekim> good or bad?
[11:20] <omega__> goooooooooooooooood
[11:20] <Tm_T> glad you like it
[11:20] <omega__> very gooood
[11:20] <SJrX> Hmmmmm I'm running Kubuntu under VMWare and can't seem to set the screen size.
[11:20] <titans> thanks god websites have followed Youtube model on vidoes. The old way of wma, real player and quicktime options was a real pain in the...
[11:20] <titans> neck
[11:20] <TeraDyne> Exploring your system from the terminal is always fun.
[11:21] <nosrednaekim> omega__: learned alot?
[11:21] <Tm_T> TeraDyne: hum, that's my regular day
[11:21] <jhutchins> titans: While flash, which I think is still not available for 64 bit, is so much...better?
[11:21] <athena> someone teach me how to use sed!
[11:21] <Tm_T> hmm
[11:21] <Tm_T> !sed
[11:21] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[11:21] <nosrednaekim> athena: "man sed"
[11:21] <basse> athena: man sed
[11:21] <Tm_T> interesting
[11:21] <basse> oh
[11:21] <TeraDyne> athena, man sed
[11:21] <SJrX> How can I change the maximum size that I can set in Kubuntu
[11:22] <athena> nosrednaekim, basse, if I could understand the manpage, I wouldn't be asking...
[11:22] <Sylar> hello
[11:22] <athena> it's as though the manpage assumes you already know how to use it...
[11:22] <Tm_T> SJrX: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:22] <nosrednaekim> athena: google?
[11:22] <basse> athena: info sed
[11:22] <basse> ;)
[11:22] <athena> ....
[11:22] <omega__> nosrednaekim, i am only at the begining
[11:22] <jhutchins> athena: You might find the Orelly book helpful.
[11:23] <omega__> i have alot to lern
[11:23] <titans> jhutchins: at least you avoid the mad crazy mess of codecs, compatabilites, upgrades and non-working browsers plugins
[11:23] <athena> I'm not paying money to understand a freaking command...
[11:23] <omega__> including english
[11:23] <omega__> "))
[11:23] <omega__> "))
[11:23] <jhutchins> titans: Yes, by simply not being able to play them at all.
[11:23] <omega__> :))
[11:23] <nosrednaekim> omega__: where are you from?
[11:23] <omega__> romania
[11:23] <jhutchins> athena: It's not exactly a command, it's a complex editor.
[11:24] <athena> ...
[11:24] <jhutchins> athena: http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/unix/sed.html
[11:24] <titans> jhutchins: that's actually not the point,
[11:24] <jhutchins> athena: http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html
[11:24] <nosrednaekim> omega__: hmmm...ok... english is a really nice skill to have
[11:24] <titans> jhutchins: you can't turnn your back on technology
[11:24] <athena> jhutchins, ok, thanks
[11:24] <jhutchins> athena: http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html
[11:25] <jhutchins> Oops.
[11:25] <titans> jhutchins: otherwise just browse with lynx
[11:25] <jhutchins> athena: http://www.ceri.memphis.edu/computer/docs/unix/sed.htm
[11:25] <athena> and that first link was unreadable... translucent text? wtf?
[11:25] <omega__> u think that my english is good enough,nosrednaekim?
[11:25] <TeraDyne> lynx. The best browser out there
[11:25] <Tm_T> omega__: yes fine enough (:
[11:25] <TheGateKeeper> omega__: little bits & pieces I have found on the way: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes
[11:25] <john_> in adept, when I select a particular package to install, the "Requested" column changes to "Break (install)".  Why?
[11:25] <jhutchins> titans: The point is that flash is just another protocol/codec, not inherently better than others, and in fact quite inferior to open source formats bacuse it's propietary and closed.  Flash sucks.
[11:26] <nosrednaekim> omega__: yeah, its pretty good. you pass for a american teenager (thats really a complement)
[11:26] <omega__> thanks
[11:26] <TheGateKeeper> nosrednaekim: omg
[11:26] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: is that really a complement
[11:26] <jhutchins> athena: It's readable here, but, yeah.  Grey on grey?
[11:26] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: :P
[11:27] <omega__> i'm glad that someone is talking whit me
[11:27] <athena> :-\
[11:27] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: for a non-native english speaker, yes!
[11:28] <jhutchins> athena: Mother load of tutorial links: http://sed.sourceforge.net/grabbag/tutorials/
[11:28] <omega__> nosrednaekim?
[11:29] <omega__> can u helpme again
[11:29] <athena> jhutchins, thank you so much, I've been studying scripts to try and get a clue... only it made my eyes bleed
[11:29] <Tm_T> omega__: just ask your question
[11:29] <omega__> i have a rar file
[11:29] <athena> ok...
[11:29] <jhutchins> athena: Once you learn to hold your toungue just right it's easy - untill you don't use it for a few months and forget everything.
[11:29] <omega__> and i can unpack it
[11:29] <Consty> When you install debs on Ubuntu it automatically downloads the necessary packages to get the application working.  With Kubuntu it doesn't seem to do that and just tells you that all these extra packages need to be installed.
[11:29] <Consty> Is there a way to make it automatically get them like ubuntu?
[11:30] <athena> jhutchins, is there an awk guide too? awk is even more confusing
[11:30] <Tm_T> Consty: what app you're using?
[11:30] <DanaKil> omega__> have you installed unrar ?
[11:30] <jhutchins> Consty: What command are you using?
[11:30] <Tm_T> Consty: btw Ubuntu is basically as same as Kubuntu
[11:30] <omega__> no
[11:30] <jhutchins> athena: Some of those will include awk...
[11:30] <Consty> Tm_T: I right click the .deb file and select install, and I've tried using dpkg -i as well.
[11:30] <john_> in adept, when I select a particular package to install, the "Requested" column changes to "Break (install)".  Why?
[11:30] <DanaKil> just do a "sudo apt-get install unrar"
[11:30] <athena> jhutchins, ok
[11:30] <Consty> Tm_T: In Ubuntu it was a specific application that handled .debs
[11:30] <omega__> ok cool
[11:31] <omega__> thanks
[11:31] <Tm_T> Consty: well, hum, interesting...
[11:31] <jhutchins> athena: There is http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Awk.html
[11:31] <Consty> Tm_T: It would tell you "hey we can install this but we've got to get 10 other packages as well.  Agree?"
[11:31] <titans> I am borde, I finished an installation, don't know what else to install
[11:31] <Tm_T> Consty: gdebi that is?
[11:31] <Consty> Yes
[11:31] <Tm_T> Consty: well, install it and use it then (:
[11:31] <Consty> Ok i'll try it
[11:32] <Consty> Why wouldn't it come with it though.. weird.
[11:32] <Tm_T> Consty: no idea, I don't do stuff the way "normal user" do anyway
[11:32] <Consty> Tm_T: How would you handle it then?
[11:32] <Tm_T> Consty: I, err, depends ;)
[11:33] <jhutchins> Consty: I'd probably try using the command line stuff.
[11:33] <Consty> Tm_T: I'm also having a problem with KDE where I'll run an application.. it'll take 10 seconds to load and then never even show up.  I run it again and then it shows up.
[11:33] <Tm_T> Consty: Firefox ? or others?
[11:33] <Consty> Tm_T: adept specifically
[11:33] <Consty> Tm_T: The first time I run it, it doesn't ask me for a password.. second time I run it it does.
[11:33] <Consty> Tm_T: Very weird
[11:33] <Tm_T> ok, I don't use it so don't know, try run it from Konsole?
[11:34] <Tm_T> (with kdesu)
[11:35] <Consty> oh wow to install gdebi it installs the entire freaking ubuntu-desktop
[11:35] <Tm_T> err?
[11:35] <Tm_T> really?
[11:35] <Consty> yep
[11:35] <Tm_T> humm, that doesn't sound right
[11:35] <omega__> why i get the message again
[11:36] <Tm_T> Consty: nope, shouldn't
[11:36] <omega__> smb and nfs server are not installed on this machine?
[11:36] <omega__> i just did
[11:36] <omega__> installed
[11:36] <omega__> them
[11:36] <DanaKil> hum, If someone has a few minutes to check the english translation of a small help file (a few lines) before I release my application on kde-apps, I will be very happy... :)
[11:37] <DanaKil>   http://danakil.free.fr/linux/kdelaystart/
[11:37] <nosrednaekim> sure
[11:37] <nosrednaekim> just for grammer and such?
[11:37] <DanaKil> it's just a very small apps but my english is... well :)
[11:37] <Sanne> Consty: don't you have a right click entry for deb packages in konqueror?
[11:37] <DanaKil> well, read the text file on my site and if you can, correct all this mess ^^
[11:37] <Tm_T> omega__: don't lean to enter key ;)
[11:37] <DanaKil> don't try to stick to my text if it's bad, do a "natural english"
[11:38] <Consty> Sanne: yes I can select install package, but all this does is install via the console using dpkg which doesn't install the other packages necessary.
[11:38] <omega__> ok
[11:38] <omega__> i am sure
[11:38] <nosrednaekim> DanaKil: should I pastebin it?
[11:38] <Sanne> Consty: ah, ok, I see.
[11:38] <Consty> Sanne: So it's rather worthless.
[11:38] <DanaKil> yes :)
[11:38] <DanaKil> or you can email me
[11:39] <omega__> i mean smb i have installed
[11:39] <john_> in adept, when I select a particular package to install, the "Requested" column changes to "Break (install)".  Why?
[11:39] <omega__> but nfs?
[11:39] <nosrednaekim> DanaKil: putting it in pastebin
[11:39] <DanaKil> oki :)
[11:39] <DanaKil> thanks a lot
[11:39] <SJrX> Hmmm when I hit console login from the login screen it doesn't actually do anything but display the Kubuntu screen then after 30 seconds X starts up again
[11:39] <omega__> no
[11:39] <Tm_T> john_: humm, mind to try to install that particular package with apt-get ?
[11:39] <athena> how do I sign a debian package?
[11:39] <DanaKil> you can also take a look at the screenshot in the same dir, if some strings are "strange", tell me please
[11:39] <Tm_T> athena: what you mean?
[11:40] <john_> tm_t but what does it mean?
[11:40] <athena> ...I'm trying to setup my own repository, only apt-get always complains about gpg signing
[11:40] <john_> tm_t: but what does "Break (install)" mean?
[11:40] <gnomefreak> athena: debsign or when you run dpkg-buildpackage add -kKEYID
[11:40] <athena> gnomefreak, ok
[11:40] <gnomefreak> KEYID being your key id
[11:41] <Tm_T> john_: well, break means, it cant be installed and/or removed
[11:41] <gnomefreak> athena: best to ask those question in #ubuntu-motu
[11:41] <Tm_T> or something
[11:41] <nosrednaekim> DanaKil: the text isn't too bad. good job
[11:41] <DanaKil> lol, thanks but i think it's not very natural ^^
[11:41] <DanaKil> I'll do a french translation based on your english strings
[11:43] <darkrift> i got 100% cpu usage but i cant see any process in the process table that is using that much
[11:43] <darkrift> how do i find out whats causing that
[11:44] <DanaKil> maybe you can try a "top" command in konsole ?
[11:44] <Tm_T> darkrift: "top" might tell
[11:44] <darkrift> odd
[11:44] <darkrift> thats showing the same thing as process table
[11:44] <darkrift> nothing that would add up to 100
[11:44] <darkrift> but a superkaramba plugin shows its been steady 100% for a while now
[11:45] <darkrift> shows my cpu temp way up there too
[11:45] <DanaKil> I don't know darkrift
[11:45] <darkrift> maybe ill restart x
[11:46] <DanaKil> yes, maybe ^^
[11:46] <nosrednaekim> DanaKil: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27069/
[11:47] <DanaKil> thank you a lot nosrednaekim :-)
[11:47] <nosrednaekim> one spot in there I wan't sure what you were saying... line 5
[11:47] <nosrednaekim> tell me if I "transpated" wrong
[11:47] <nosrednaekim> *translated
[11:48] <DanaKil> no, it's not what I wanted to say
[11:48] <DanaKil> it's just that konv and kopete are set to automatically connect, but sometimes, I boot my computer and I don't want to launch this apps
[11:48] <nosrednaekim> DanaKil: sorry... what did you you want?
[11:49] <nosrednaekim> OH! ok.. i'll change it.
[11:49] <DanaKil> so, kopete and konv are just not loaded
[11:49] <abrahao> I changed the network file, and sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop and start and the network configre is the same
[11:50] <DanaKil> It's great that kopete and konv can autoconnect but I you have them in autostart, you could do nothing to prevent that and it's sometimes not good
[11:50] <Tm_T> abrahao: you have knetworkmanager running?
[11:50] <Tm_T> DanaKil: well, don't have them in autoconnect or autorun
[11:51] <abrahao>  knetworkmanager ? I just need to make the changes in the networks be applied, all in the console
[11:51] <DanaKil> but I usually like to have them in autoconnect :)
[11:51] <Tm_T> abrahao: hum, no KDE running at all?
[11:51] <abrahao> nope
[11:51] <Tm_T> DanaKil: well, then keep them that way, you choose
[11:51] <nosrednaekim> DanaKil: this more like it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27071/
[11:52] <DanaKil> yes, perfect :)
[11:52] <DanaKil> nosrednaekim> you will have your nick on kde-apps, after that, you will surely be famous (money, women and glory forever)
[11:52] <nosrednaekim> hehe
[11:52] <nosrednaekim> DanaKil: great idea BTW
[11:53] <nosrednaekim> I'll DL when it gets up there
[11:53] <DanaKil> well, I don't know if it's usefull for others but I "scratch my itch" ;)
[11:53] <SJrX> If my mouse wheel doesn't work how can I fix it?
[11:54] <SJrX> Ladies, Gentlemen?
[11:55] <BluesKaj> SJrX, sys/settings keyboard&mouse
[11:56] <SJrX> I don't see anything in there
[11:56] <Dusk_> how can i know if kubuntu recognized my display card or not?
[11:56] <Tm_T> Dusk_: kinfocenter might give first hints
[11:57] <acemo> is there a plugin for KDeveloper, like the Word Completion Plugin, but instead of working with the words in the current document, works with for example all the known java methods?
[11:58] <Dusk_> Tm_T: which part is about me?
[11:58] <Dusk_> Tm_T: Opengl or X Server?
[11:58] <aabrahao> Hi, I changed interfaces and stop the networks, but the new configuration does not start
[11:58] <Tm_T> Dusk_: well, which ever pleases your need
[11:59] <abrahao> Hi, I changed interfaces and stop the networks, but the new configuration does not start
[11:59] <Tm_T> abrahao: what you mean by "not start" ?
[11:59] <Tm_T> abrahao: and no you don't need to repeat
[11:59] <abrahao> net configuration is the  one before the changes
[12:00] <Tm_T> abrahao: you sure you save it?
[12:00] <abrahao> yes
[12:01] <Tm_T> humm, interesting
[12:01] <omega__> so
[12:01] <Dusk_> i couldn't install my ati radeon9600xt driver
[12:01] <waylandbill> abrahao: what did you use to change the configuration?
[12:01] <omega__> what is nfs?
[12:02] <Tm_T> !nfs
[12:02] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[12:02] <aabrahao> I changed interfaces file
[12:07] <Dusk_> how can i know if i have the kernel-source package or not?
[12:07] <Tm_T> Dusk_: what you're doing?
[12:07] <Dusk_> for ati driver installation
[12:07] <Tm_T> !ati
[12:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:09] <titans> !quicktime
[12:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:09] <titans> hi what do I need in order toplay apple trailers?
[12:09] <Tm_T> titans: look those links
[12:10] <abrahao> I Just need to load ther interfaces values, any one?
[12:12] <stormbringer> blq
[12:12] <Tm_T> hi stormbringer
[12:12] <stormbringer> hi
[12:12] <stormbringer> anybody from Bulgaria here ?
[12:12] <TheGateKeeper> how to get police help :/ http://humor.beecy.net/misc/jobad/robber-shot.jpg
[12:12] <Tm_T> stormbringer: doing poll?
[12:13] <Tm_T> !offtopic | TheGateKeeper
[12:13] <ubotu> TheGateKeeper: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:13] <stormbringer> uff
[12:13] <narcispy> !paste
[12:13] <stormbringer> good night :)
[12:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:13] <TheGateKeeper> Tm_T: yeah yeah but it lightens up the evening
[12:14] <Tm_T> TheGateKeeper: still you're free to use #kubuntu-offtopic for that stuff ;)