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KurtKraut | I'd like to install Gutsy in another partition. How can I do that withou loosing the current GRUB config, in order to boot Vista or Feisty ? | 01:06 |
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tormod | KurtKraut: install the Gutsy grub to the gutsy partition, and not to MBR. Then chainload this one from the old grub (on MBR). | 01:13 |
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KurtKraut | tormod, this is possible to do with the Alternate Install CD ? | 01:13 |
tormod | KurtKraut: I would think so. You can do it with the Desktop installer at least. | 01:14 |
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invisiblepinkuni | what will the "FREE" version of ubuntu (gnewsense) be called? and where can I find more information about it? | 04:14 |
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micahcowan | Anyone know how to get the last Gutsy tribe to run under qemu? | 04:27 |
micahcowan | Nice nick, \x6e\x65\x72\x64 ...and self-proving, too! :) | 04:29 |
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xsacha | hey.. when i first started gutsy, i started up amarok and played some mp3s -- it worked straight away without installing anything extra? now, 2 days later it suddenly wont play mp3s anymore. so i decided to install w32codecs. it still doesnt play mp3s | 04:35 |
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crdlb | xsacha, you need libmad something | 04:36 |
xsacha | xmms-mad? | 04:36 |
crdlb | libmad0 and you would need xmms-mad to make xmms play mp3s | 04:37 |
crdlb | and there's a gstreamer plugin | 04:37 |
crdlb | if you're using xine, you should have libxine-extracodecs installed | 04:38 |
xsacha | yeah got that installed (and amarok does use xine, yes) | 04:38 |
invisiblepinkuni | micahcowan: lol, great nick :) \x6e\x65\x72\x64 | 04:38 |
invisiblepinkuni | i had to go to the ascii table to find out | 04:39 |
micahcowan | Strangely enough, I've recently spent some time memorizing the ASCII code table :) | 04:39 |
xsacha | crdlb: any ideas? | 04:39 |
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invisiblepinkuni | i remember memorizing A,Z, a, z, 0, 9 a long time ago... | 04:40 |
micahcowan | Yeah, for alphabetic chars I mostly just know where the boundaries are; A, O, P, Z... | 04:41 |
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xsacha | grr mp3 not working is known bug for gutsy? | 04:44 |
micahcowan | invisiblepinkuni: \x1b\x5b\x33\x34\x3b\x31\x6d\x4d\x69\x63\x61\x68\x1b\x5b\x6d :) | 04:47 |
micahcowan | Try that as an argument to printf. | 04:47 |
invisiblepinkuni | micahcowan: how do I do it? :( | 04:50 |
micahcowan | Just use the printf(1) command: "printf '\x1b\x5b...'"... you should probably tack on \x0a at the end of it, too :) | 04:52 |
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invisiblepinkuni | micahcowan: you narcissist | 04:54 |
invisiblepinkuni | :) | 04:54 |
micahcowan | :) | 04:54 |
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xsacha | Micah | 04:56 |
micahcowan | xsacha, yeah... should also be blue, in ansi-color-capable terminals. | 04:58 |
xsacha | yep | 04:58 |
xsacha | printf '\x1b\x5b\x33\6d^Mx3\x1b\x5b\x33\x34\x3b\x31\x6d\x4d\x69\x63\x61\x68\x1b\x5b\x6d\x0a' | 05:00 |
xsacha | ooops, here: printf '\x1b\x5b\x33\6d\x1b\x5b\x33\x34\x3b\x31\x6d\x4d\x69\x63\x61\x68\x1b\x5b\x6d\x0a' | 05:01 |
xsacha | it should move up 2 lines and then print line below that | 05:02 |
micahcowan | There was an x missing in \6d, near the beginning. | 05:04 |
xsacha | yeah, dont put it there | 05:04 |
micahcowan | Well, if I don't, it says " [3 dMicah" | 05:04 |
xsacha | the \6d is what makes it jump to top | 05:05 |
micahcowan | Sure you don't want \x6d? | 05:05 |
xsacha | 100% | 05:05 |
xsacha | and use the second one, not the first one, to get rid of [3 | 05:05 |
micahcowan | \6 isn't a useful control character... | 05:05 |
xsacha | sure it is | 05:05 |
micahcowan | No, the second one produces the [3. | 05:05 |
micahcowan | \6 = \x06 | 05:06 |
xsacha | not here | 05:06 |
xsacha | if it makes you happy: printf '\x1b\x5b\x33d\x1b\x5b\x33\x34\x3b\x31\x6d\x4d\x69\x63\x61\x68\x1b\x5b\x6d\x0a' | 05:07 |
micahcowan | \6 is the ACK control. | 05:07 |
micahcowan | That works much better. | 05:08 |
xsacha | both work on konsole | 05:08 |
xsacha | i like this one better: printf '\x1b\x5bd\x1b\x5b\x33\x34\x3b\x31\x6d\x4d\x69\x63\x61\x68\x1b\x5b\x6d\x0a | 05:08 |
xsacha | (note the ' at end) | 05:08 |
micahcowan | well, at any rate, it's not ISO 6429 | 05:08 |
xsacha | it changed my sacha@coco:~$ to Micah@coco:~$ with Micah in blue | 05:09 |
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xsacha | http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7639/hmm3lp9.png | 05:11 |
xsacha | lol | 05:11 |
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Jordan_U | ubuntu-desktop got removed during my last dist-upgrade and I still can't install it because I can't install xsane or gimp-print, is this a known problem? | 05:14 |
xsacha | kubuntu-desktop got removed when i installed mythtv :P | 05:14 |
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Jordan_U | No, I have pretty much nothing extra installed, I am just running gutsy in a VM to help with testing and out of curiosity | 05:15 |
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xsacha | ok my mp3 works perfect. but when i try to play a last.fm stream in amarok it says it cant play it coz it doesnt have the right input plugin or something, cant recognise the format | 05:21 |
xsacha | ok error seemed to change now for no apparent reason and it's now: Audio output unavailable; the device is busy. xine parameters: | 05:26 |
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xsacha | fixed it!! | 05:35 |
xsacha | i just got rid of artsd | 05:35 |
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DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/121833 | 06:47 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 121833 in linux-source-2.6.22 "LCD backlight turns off when at idle or on battery." [Undecided,New] | 06:47 |
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shirish | ubotu paste | 07:06 |
ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 07:06 |
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Jordan_U | Is xsane not completely merged or is the fact that it depends on an older version of libgimp2.0 a bug? | 07:25 |
crimsun | that's bug 121840 | 07:33 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 121840 in xsane "xsane needs rebuild for newer libgimp2.0" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121840 | 07:33 |
crimsun | I'm working on it now; just be patient. | 07:34 |
crimsun | Canonical staff generally are not paid to work on Ubuntu during the weekends. | 07:34 |
crimsun | (although I'm not staff, so it doesn't apply to me) | 07:34 |
Jordan_U | crimsun, Thank you | 07:41 |
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Takesinn | So whats new in the Gutsy Gibbon? | 07:44 |
DanaG | new kernel (dynticks), new gnome-power-manager, broken suspend2ram (for me), new Gnome, and lots of other new versions of things. | 07:45 |
Jordan_U | Takesinn, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-June/000304.html | 07:46 |
Takesinn | Any idea when it's going to be released? | 07:48 |
Jordan_U | Takesinn, 7.10 :) | 07:48 |
RAOF | October | 07:48 |
Takesinn | Ah | 07:48 |
Takesinn | Cool | 07:49 |
Takesinn | So improved performance and graphics, not bad | 07:49 |
RAOF | Compiz+fusion plugins by default. | 07:49 |
Jordan_U | Takesinn, My favorite feature is the new Xorg improvements upstream | 07:49 |
Jordan_U | ^^ and Compiz Fusion of course :) | 07:50 |
Takesinn | Care to elaborate on what good it does? :) | 07:50 |
Takesinn | I get the Compiz stuff, looks nice | 07:50 |
RAOF | Compiz fuzion? A bunch of really nice looking plugins. | 07:50 |
Jordan_U | Takesinn, Compiz Fusion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w | 07:51 |
RAOF | Also, scale enhancements. | 07:51 |
Takesinn | I got ATi, so not sure if I can use it | 07:51 |
Jordan_U | Takesinn, If you require fglrx you are out of luck ( without the hack that is XGL at least ) | 07:51 |
Takesinn | I had to disable composite in xorg.conf to get proper 3D accel | 07:52 |
Takesinn | Exactly ;) | 07:52 |
Takesinn | I should get a new 3D card probably | 07:52 |
Jordan_U | Takesinn, Is your card supported by the open source drivers? | 07:52 |
Takesinn | So does Ubuntu have it's own gaming section? | 07:52 |
Jordan_U | Takesinn, What do you mean? | 07:52 |
Takesinn | I have no idea. All I know is I installed some ati drivers by reading ubuntu guide, which got Action Cube running nicely | 07:53 |
Takesinn | NVM ^^ | 07:53 |
Jordan_U | Takesinn, Does your comp by chance also have an intel integrated card? | 07:54 |
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Takesinn | How do i find out? :P I forgot those dang commands | 07:54 |
Takesinn | I got grep down tho | 07:54 |
Jordan_U | Takesinn, lspci | 07:55 |
Takesinn | Scuse ^^;; Long time since I *nixed | 07:55 |
Takesinn | It's like riding a bike tho, you just gotta get into it again | 07:55 |
Takesinn | Jordan_U: Jepp, Intel | 07:56 |
Jordan_U | Takesinn, And you are sure that is a gfx card and not a network card? | 07:56 |
Takesinn | Wait, you mean intel graphics? | 07:58 |
DanaG | If you have an AGP add-in video card, it will disable any integrated AGP card. | 07:58 |
Takesinn | Naw, it's some cheap ATi knockoff | 07:58 |
Takesinn | Radeon x600 | 07:58 |
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PirateHead | It's really great that Ubuntu can import settings and data from a Windows installation during an Ubuntu install. However, I'd like to see that feature implemented with respect to other Linux installs. If I install Ubuntu Gutsy over my old SUSE or Mandriva installation, surely Ubuntu could extract my data from those? | 08:01 |
Jordan_U | PirateHead, Yeah, it should, until it does though you can just keep your /home on a separate partition | 08:03 |
PirateHead | Jordan_U: is there somebody I can bug to get information on implementing that functionality? | 08:04 |
crimsun | Jordan_U: I need you to test a deb for me, please, if you have time. | 08:07 |
Jordan_U | crimsun, I do, and I will :) | 08:07 |
Jordan_U | PirateHead, I think there is already a bug report about it, if not create one | 08:07 |
PirateHead | crimsun: I downloaded the latest kernel binary about a week ago and my sound was fixed. Thanks for helping clear that stuff up. :-) | 08:08 |
crimsun | Jordan_U: please try the two debs at www.trilug.org/~crimsun/xsane-gutsy/ | 08:08 |
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Takesinn | I share your pain | 08:09 |
Jordan_U_gutsy | Could you post the link again so I can get it easier from My Gutsy vmware image :) | 08:09 |
crimsun | Jordan_U_gutsy: www.trilug.org/~crimsun/xsane-gutsy/ | 08:10 |
Jordan_U_gutsy | http://www.trilug.org/~crimsun/xsane-gutsy/xsane-common_0.99+0.991-3ubuntu2_all.deb ? | 08:12 |
crimsun | and xsane. | 08:13 |
crimsun | xsane_0.99+0.991-3ubuntu2_i386.deb 100% 280KB 280.5KB/s 00:01 | 08:14 |
crimsun | xsane-common_0.99+0.991-3ubuntu2_all.deb 100% 1526KB 1.5MB/s 00:01 | 08:14 |
crimsun | those two. | 08:14 |
Jordan_U_gutsy | Why 2 ? | 08:14 |
crimsun | this is, of course, on i386/gutsy. Obviously a no-go on ppc, sparc, amd64, ia64. | 08:14 |
crimsun | because you need them both. | 08:15 |
Jordan_U_gutsy | OK, both installed correctly, should I now try to install ubuntu-desktop? | 08:16 |
crimsun | sure | 08:17 |
crimsun | I want you specifically to use xsane in your VM | 08:17 |
crimsun | I'm not going to upload an untested source package change | 08:17 |
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jussi01 | crimsun: if you have a min there is a lad in #ubuntuforums who has a weird soundcard issue. perhaps you could help if you have time? | 08:19 |
crimsun | with a stable release or a devel release? | 08:21 |
crimsun | there are appropriate channels for both; ask him to ping me in one of them | 08:22 |
Jordan_U_gutsy | crimsun: Sorry for my ignorance of vmware but how do I allow it access to usb devices? | 08:22 |
crimsun | Jordan_U_gutsy: it's in one of the top menus | 08:22 |
crimsun | VM menu, I think? | 08:22 |
crimsun | I haven't used VMware in a very long time | 08:22 |
Jordan_U_gutsy | In VM -> Removable Devices -> USB I see nothing available | 08:23 |
crimsun | windows host? | 08:24 |
crimsun | did you safely remove it from the host or whatever? | 08:24 |
Jordan_U_gutsy | No, Feisty Host | 08:24 |
crimsun | well, does feisty recognise it? | 08:25 |
Jordan_U_gutsy | Yes. | 08:25 |
Jordan_U_gutsy | I have scanned from it before | 08:26 |
crimsun | so does your vmware image recognise it? | 08:28 |
Jordan_U_gutsy | No | 08:30 |
crimsun | I mean from dmesg or lshal | 08:30 |
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Jordan_U_gutsy | No | 08:31 |
crimsun | then that's a kernel issue | 08:32 |
crimsun | try a gutsy chroot instead of a VMware image | 08:32 |
Jordan_U_gutsy | Ok, I don't have one currently set up | 08:33 |
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DanaG | I have Gutsy native, but I don't have a scanner. | 08:35 |
DanaG | Tomorrow I can try a camera, or something. | 08:35 |
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DanaG | Wow, that blinking brightness-changing is annoyinh. | 08:39 |
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DanaG | Good night (or morning or any other time of day, depending on your time zones). | 08:41 |
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Jordan_U | crimsun, Xane detected the scanner, scanning now... | 08:53 |
Jordan_U | " Failed to start scanner: Error during device IO " | 08:54 |
crimsun | is that in the VMware image or in a true gutsy install? | 08:54 |
Jordan_U | VMware image, the scan worked the second time though | 08:54 |
crimsun | ok, so xsane's not the culprit. | 08:55 |
crimsun | thanks, uploaded. | 08:55 |
crimsun | fixed debs will be available in 3 hours. | 08:55 |
Jordan_U | crimsun, Thank you, I am always willing to test, and I am grateful for your work :) | 08:56 |
crimsun | np, thank -you- for testing. | 08:56 |
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lucasvo | my nm-applet segfaults when I try to connect to a network | 10:31 |
lucasvo | what should I attach to a bugreport? | 10:31 |
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RAOF | The crash log, if possible. It should be in /var/crash | 10:31 |
lucasvo | I only have a networkmanager crashlog | 10:32 |
RAOF | Hm. | 10:33 |
lucasvo | no I found it | 10:33 |
lucasvo | it get's cleaned up after reboot | 10:33 |
lucasvo | RAOF: I'll write a bugreport | 10:33 |
RAOF | You could always run it under gdb to get a really serious backtrace. | 10:33 |
RAOF | Yay! | 10:33 |
lucasvo | RAOF: Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. | 10:36 |
lucasvo | [Switching to Thread -1225925952 (LWP 6696)] | 10:36 |
lucasvo | 0x0805f94c in ?? () | 10:36 |
RAOF | Oh, this is in gdb? | 10:36 |
lucasvo | RAOF: yes | 10:36 |
RAOF | lucasvo: Allow me to grab a link to a "getting a good backtrace" howto | 10:36 |
lucasvo | RAOF: ok | 10:37 |
RAOF | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash | 10:37 |
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lucasvo | RAOF: are the debugsymbols in the networkmanager package? | 10:41 |
RAOF | Yes, there are. | 10:42 |
RAOF | You need to add the ddebs repository, and you'll get -dbgsym packages for every Ubuntu package. | 10:42 |
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RAOF | lucasvo: Oh, now that I've parsed your question correctly: No, you'll need to get the appropriate -dbgsym package :) | 10:43 |
Hobbsee | RAOF: is that repo added by default? | 10:43 |
RAOF | Hobbsee: No, it isn't. Either the link to it is on the page I've already given him, or I'll need to hunt it down. | 10:43 |
lucasvo | RAOF: I selected the wrong repository. it's n network-manager-gnome-dbgsym | 10:44 |
Hobbsee | RAOF: i wonder if it should be. | 10:45 |
RAOF | Hobbsee: Maybe, but it'd need to be substantially more official than someone's people. page :) | 10:45 |
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lucasvo | 0x0805f94c in nmi_dbus_get_network_key_callback (result=GNOME_KEYRING_RESULT_OK, found_list=0x0, data=0x82db868) at applet-dbus-info.c:117 | 10:46 |
Hobbsee | RAOF: they're canonical employees. and it could probably be mirrored somewhere. | 10:46 |
lucasvo | 117 applet-dbus-info.c: No such file or directory. | 10:46 |
RAOF | lucasvo: I'm not sure from your last statement whether or not you're asking for any help or not :/ | 10:46 |
lucasvo | RAOF: well, I was looking through various bugreports about crashes and I don't really know if mine is a duplicate. should I just report a new one? | 10:47 |
RAOF | lucasvo: Probably, yes. Unless your backtrace matches something else you've already seen. | 10:47 |
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lucasvo | crap. my firefox just crashed while I tried to report the bug. | 10:50 |
lucasvo | are there any issues with FF on gutsy? | 10:50 |
RAOF | Not that I've noticed recently | 10:50 |
lucasvo | :/ | 10:50 |
Hobbsee | lucasvo: does it happen repeatedly? | 10:51 |
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lucasvo | Hobbsee: yes. It happened when I tried to comment on a post yesterday | 10:51 |
Hobbsee | lucasvo: what about on a new profile? | 10:52 |
Hobbsee | jussi01: wait a few days, please. | 10:52 |
Hobbsee | jussi01: people to test images are needed. | 10:52 |
jussi01 | Hobbsee: why? | 10:52 |
jussi01 | oh. ok | 10:52 |
Hobbsee | jussi01: tribe 2. | 10:52 |
Hobbsee | jussi01: and currently, adept is broken. | 10:52 |
jussi01 | its on the second partition so i can install as many times as i feel like... :d | 10:53 |
Hobbsee | :) | 10:53 |
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lucasvo | Hobbsee: by new profile you mean: rm ~/.mozilla? | 11:10 |
lucasvo | it crashed again | 11:10 |
Hobbsee | lucasvo: yeah. i'd move, not remove, though | 11:10 |
lucasvo | Hobbsee: I did | 11:10 |
Hobbsee | right. then go ahead and file, and say that you tried a new profile, adn that it's reproducable | 11:10 |
Hobbsee | (if you hadnt done so here, they would have just asked you to do it, from the bug report, regardless) | 11:10 |
lucasvo | Hobbsee: ok, will do | 11:13 |
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ajmorris_ | anyone got the latest 'partial upgrades' installed? i get an ubuntu-desktop error | 01:18 |
Hobbsee | ajmorris_: it's probably not installable | 01:20 |
Hobbsee | ajmorris_: which tends to be normal for a development release | 01:21 |
gnomefreak | its not libgimp is stopping it | 01:28 |
ajmorris_ | ah, so that is why libgimp won't update | 01:29 |
gnomefreak | yep | 01:30 |
gnomefreak | that needs to be upgraded before anything else can be installed | 01:30 |
ajmorris_ | ah IC | 01:30 |
gnomefreak | once updated anything that depends on it needs to be respun | 01:30 |
ajmorris_ | thanks gnomefreak | 01:30 |
gnomefreak | yw | 01:30 |
Hobbsee | gnomefreak: sometimes. | 01:31 |
Hobbsee | gnomefreak: depends what it is :) | 01:31 |
Hobbsee | </pedantic> | 01:31 |
gnomefreak | ubuntu-desktop gimp and xsane will need to be | 01:31 |
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Hobbsee | gimp will be in the same source package as libgimp, i expect | 01:32 |
gnomefreak | hmmmm xsane common is updating | 01:32 |
gnomefreak | xsane-common | 01:32 |
gnomefreak | that might be good news | 01:32 |
Hobbsee | only gimp will. u-d wont, didnt check xsane | 01:33 |
gnomefreak | xsane is installibel now | 01:33 |
gnomefreak | installable | 01:33 |
gnomefreak | its all fixed | 01:34 |
gnomefreak | u-d now installs as well | 01:34 |
Hobbsee | woo :) | 01:34 |
Hobbsee | yay! | 01:34 |
Hobbsee | i doubt k-d does, i should check. | 01:34 |
gnomefreak | yes it does | 01:35 |
gnomefreak | adept debtags and freinds were fixed :) | 01:35 |
Hobbsee | adept is broken. | 01:35 |
Hobbsee | it builds, sure. | 01:35 |
gnomefreak | well yeah IMO its always broken its just its nature | 01:36 |
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DanaG | idle timeout....*blink*blink* | 11:11 |
coNP | hey DanaG | 11:11 |
DanaG | goes 100<off>75<off>50 | 11:11 |
DanaG | Yeah? | 11:11 |
coNP | I was only seeing idle timeout | 11:11 |
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DanaG | What I was referring to: | 11:13 |
DanaG | https://launchpad.net/bugs/121833 | 11:13 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 121833 in linux-source-2.6.22 "LCD backlight turns off when at idle or on battery." [Undecided,New] | 11:13 |
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coNP | oh I thought you mean this list | 11:32 |
coNP | s/list/channel/ | 11:32 |
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DanaG | Argh, my screen keeps blinking randomly -- and it's not that bug. Grr, stupid NVIDIA. | 11:39 |
DanaG | *blink* | 11:39 |
DanaG | *blink* | 11:40 |
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=== DanaG goes to restart Xorg. | ||
DanaG | *blink* | 11:40 |
DanaG | argh, logout does not log out. | 11:41 |
DanaG | It just locks up the panel. | 11:41 |
DanaG | And keyboard input to everything but Pidgin. | 11:41 |
DanaG | Argh. | 11:42 |
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DanaG | What happened to the "Autorun Script" option in Amarok? | 11:47 |
DanaG | Argh, multimedia keys don't run unless I manually run the "Gnome multimedia keys" script. | 11:48 |
DanaG | s/run/work/ | 11:48 |
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