[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #121925 in gnome-panel (main) "Picasa Application Crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121925
[12:30] <ubotu> New bug: #121926 in gnome-panel (main) "freezes if using xubuntu panel on ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121926
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #121927 in Ubuntu "After coming out of suspend via power button, mouse and keyboard don't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121927
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #121928 in gimp-print (main) "missing dependencies" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121928
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #121929 in Ubuntu "network wireless interface not detected with 2.6.22" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121929
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #121930 in gnome-terminal (main) "E: _cache->open() failed, please report." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121930
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121931 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121931
[12:46] <pochu> good night!
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #121934 in vdr (universe) "enable opt-42-x_MainMenuHooks patch" [Wishlist,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121934
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #121935 in update-manager (main) "particial upgrade update manager" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121935
[01:33] <micahcowan> bug 116326
[01:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 116326 in linux-source-2.6.22 "No audio INTEL HD audio - Realtek ALC268 codec - Toshiba A205-S4577" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/116326
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #121937 in Ubuntu "live-cd should ask for the language country (and maybe keyboard)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121937
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #121938 in yakuake (universe) "Yakuake opens in nonexisting monitor" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121938
[03:04] <calc> crimsun: you here?
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #121940 in kvm (universe) "KVM newest version request" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121940
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121941 in firefox (main) "flashplayer crashes firefox" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121941
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #121939 in gnome-panel (main) "The "Users and Group" is no more accessible" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121939
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121942 in openoffice.org (main) "open office does not start" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121942
[04:38] <Neolithium> Figures, I start hunting through bugs and a big storm blows in...
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121943 in gparted (main) "Gparted freezes with external USB HD" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121943
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #121945 in update-manager (main) "[gutsy]  "update-manager' crashes and leave update incomplete" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121945
[05:29] <ScottK> bdmurray: I think you ought to consider making it triaging policy NOT to use the Triaged state until Bug #121636 gets fixed.
[05:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121636 in malone "when a bug is marked as triaged it disappears" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121636
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121947 in update-manager (main) "Warning about unsigned security updates" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121947
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121948 in rhythmbox (main) "Changing track information in rhythmbox crashes the program...." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121948
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121949 in gambas (universe) "Example projects generate errors in Gambas" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121949
[07:20] <crimsun> calc: yes, what's up?
[07:32] <calc> crimsun: i think i understand how hda works now
[07:32] <calc> crimsun: i read the datasheet for the 268 and things started making sense a little bit, heh
[07:33] <calc> crimsun: and i saw that the support for the 268 has some FIXME's in the code which look like it may be why things don't work
[07:35] <crimsun> are you working off 4.06a or alsa-kernel hg tip?
[07:37] <calc> hg
[07:37] <calc> 4.06a has no 268 support at all
[07:37] <crimsun> interesting.
[07:37] <calc> it was there for 4.05f but not in 4.06a
[07:37] <calc> and hg doesn't work as is
[07:38] <calc> i took the diff from hg to ubuntu kernel and applied and it tried it out the other day
[07:38] <crimsun> your model doesn't match either of the quirks, correct?
[07:40] <calc> i only see 1 quirk and its not for my device
[07:41] <crimsun> and you've tried model=3stack, correct?
[07:41] <calc> yea
[07:41] <calc> i
[07:42] <calc> er i'll have to try it out again tomorrow (sunday)
[07:44] <crimsun> if you can rule out both model=auto and model=3stack, then you can construct a new init_verb method
[07:44] <calc> yea
[07:45] <calc> looks like there is only one init_verb method already
[07:45] <calc> and it looks "mostly" ok
[07:45] <calc> maybe some of the setup isn't quite right but the nids look right afaict
[07:46] <calc> i'll have to figure out what the magic numbers do and verify they are correct per the datasheet
[07:46] <crimsun> well, if the nids are correct for your /proc/asound/card0/codec*, then likely what you need is just a separate verb section
[07:48] <calc> verb section doing what exactly though?
[07:49] <crimsun> different nid bindings
[07:49] <crimsun> for instance, take a look at what the various tagra/lenovo quirks do
[07:49] <calc> ok
[07:52] <calc> this is probably a dumb question but why are there quirks?
[07:52] <calc> isn't the chip the same across all that use it?
[07:53] <crimsun> the chip meaning the Realtek 268?
[07:53] <calc> yea
[07:53] <crimsun> no, it's not identical.
[07:53] <crimsun> like any hardware, it can be tweaked before reaching the customer.  Welcome to hell.
[07:54] <calc> heh
[07:56] <calc> well i can see the mixers are definitely different depending on which ports are hooked up especially on the 8 channel codecs for a laptop
[08:00] <calc> also looks like for the 268 someone just coded enough to get their particular laptop to work, doesn't appear to implement full base functionality
[08:00] <calc> i mean base being whats in the datasheet
[08:01] <calc> also there is some mixer weirdness compared to what i see on other mixers for realtek
[08:02] <calc> they show a different nid for the volume and switch
[08:02] <calc> but the other mixers don't
[08:03] <crimsun> calc: yes, there may well be differences
[08:10] <calc> ah i see what is going on (i think)
[08:11] <calc> btw do you know what the E (sigma's) mean on the realtek datasheet diagram?
[08:11] <calc> and the M as well
[08:11] <crimsun> I don't have it on me
[08:13] <calc> ok np
[08:15] <calc> code like this:
[08:15] <calc> {0x03, AC_VERB_SET_AMP_GAIN_MUTE, AMP_IN_UNMUTE(1)}
[08:16] <calc> that tells it to send the unmute command to that nid?
[08:20] <crimsun> in a manner of speaking, yes.
[08:20] <crimsun> it's not so much "send it now" but ...
[08:20] <crimsun> here, think of it in terms of Qt's slots and signals
[08:20] <calc> ok
[08:21] <crimsun> your nids are your slots; the actions are the signals
[08:21] <crimsun> in that sense, they're bindings.
[08:24] <calc> hold on AMP_IN_UNMUTE(1) would mean mute (i think)
[08:24] <calc> 1<<8 means shift 1 eight bits right, correct>
[08:24] <calc> ?
[08:25] <calc> #define AMP_IN_UNMUTE(idx)      (0x7000 | ((idx)<<8))
[08:25] <crimsun> yes
[08:25] <calc> so that would be 0x7080 if AMP_IN_UNMUTE(1) ?
[08:25] <calc> or is that 0x7100?
[08:26] <calc> ah 0x7100 doh
[08:28] <crimsun> :)
[08:28] <calc> ah now i understand what the number is doing
[08:28] <calc> changing the index offset in the mux
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #121951 in serpentine (main) "Adding files in Serpentine doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121951
[08:31] <calc> i think i might have found something wrong, but i need to look further
[08:32] <calc> they unmute the first 3 ports on the mux but not all 7
[08:33] <calc> n/m the mux is only hooked up the input
[08:33] <calc> on this particular codec
[08:34] <calc> i need to sleep, i'm sure it will be fairly easy to spot when i wake up
[08:34] <calc> Hobbsee: hello
[08:36] <Hobbsee> hi calc
[08:38] <calc> crimsun: thanks for the tips, ttyl
[08:43] <crimsun> calc: 'night
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121952 in debconf (main) "[gutsy]  debconf: apt-extracttemplates failed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121952
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #121953 in epiphany (universe) "Epiphany can't open links in a new tab" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121953
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #121955 in Ubuntu "wpa supplicant bug, causes random crashes to su processes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121955
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #121956 in serpentine (main) "Serpentine doesn't keep preferred writing device " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121956
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #121957 in serpentine (main) "When run from gnome dialog, serpentine doesn't choose correct writing device" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121957
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #121958 in firefox (main) "Firefox randomly crashes when typing " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121958
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #121959 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "prism2 drivers not working, need sync from upstream" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121959
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121960 in timeoutd (universe) "timeoutd does not restrict login time if LOGIN/NOLOGIN lines are after session limit lines" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121960
[12:33] <Arby> anybody got a moment to look at bug 113188?
[12:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 113188 in apt "E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened." [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113188
[12:33] <Arby> it looks like a server error to me
[12:33] <Arby> and therefore I'm wondering if I should just close it
[12:34] <Hobbsee> Arby: i think so
[12:34] <Arby> Hobbsee: good enough for me thanks
[12:34] <Arby> bugs--
[12:34] <Hobbsee> :D
[12:43] <coNP> I guess this has some dupliacetes as well
[12:43] <coNP> it is typical that something similiar gets reported once a week or so
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121961 in vino (main) "vino should support reverse connections (listen mode)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121961
[12:57] <Hobbsee> coNP: which?
[12:57] <Hobbsee> coNP: oh, the dpkg one?
[12:57] <Hobbsee> coNP: usually it's dpkg --configure -a
[12:57] <coNP> hey Hobbsee
[12:57] <Hobbsee> hiya
[12:57] <coNP> sure, it is
[12:57] <coNP> but they file it again & again
[12:58] <Hobbsee> true
[12:58] <Hobbsee> i wonder if we can get an autocloser on with taht string
[12:58] <Hobbsee> bughelper should be able to find all those bugs, and close them via email
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #121962 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Support for special buttons on Fujitsu P1510D" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121962
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #121965 in Ubuntu "Network-manager fails to connect/recognize Centrino Intel Pro Wireless in feisty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121965
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #121964 in k3b (main) "Gutsy: k3b has misleading system config dialog" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121964
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #121966 in Ubuntu "PS3 Fiesty: Running X Windows on a system with huge tables enabled causes massive disc thrashing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121966
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #121967 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Fingerprint reader as scroll wheel" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121967
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #121968 in update-manager (main) "upgrade tool crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121968
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #121969 in asn1c (universe) "Please sync asn1c (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121969
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #121970 in approx (universe) "Please sync approx (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121970
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #121971 in interchange (universe) "Please sync interchange (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121971
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #121972 in latex-cjk-chinese-arphic (universe) "Please sync latex-cjk-chinese-arphic (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121972
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #121973 in filezilla (universe) "Filezilla segmentation fault" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121973
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #121974 in libccscript3 (universe) "Please sync libccscript3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121974
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121975 in libtk-tablematrix-perl (universe) "Please sync libtk-tablematrix-perl (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121975
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #121977 in lockvc (universe) "Please sync lockvc (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121977
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #121978 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "Unknown symbol in module fcpci.ko" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121978
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #121979 in netdiag (universe) "Please netdiag (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121979
[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121980 in k3b (main) "Gutsy: k3b hangs at 'Verifying written data'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121980
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121982 in evolution (main) "error with E-Mail, error emptying trash and junk" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121982
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #121983 in nautilus (main) "Unable to launch nautilus file browser" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121983
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #121984 in kdepim (main) "kandy: no icon in kubuntu feisty's kde menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121984
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #121985 in totem (main) "[gutsy]  totem progress bar and time stuck when playing multiple sound files" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121985
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #121986 in compizconfig-settings-manager (universe) "impossible to set a cube with 4 faces" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121986
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #121987 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  Dark Oberon" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121987
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #121988 in gnome-panel (main) "right-click menu comes up blank with dual monitors" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121988
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #121989 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel / desktop icons doesn't appear on startup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121989
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #121990 in gproftpd (universe) "Just please update to 8.3.2 to got the french translation :'(" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121990
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #121991 in hwdb-client (main) "Data Bases of Kubuntu devices crashes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121991
[04:16] <afflux> bugs against the mythbuntu ubiquity should be rejected, shouldn't they?
[04:18] <Hobbsee> afflux: file them under mythubuntu, i think
[04:19] <Hobbsee> bug URL?
[04:19] <afflux> bug 121851 and 121914
[04:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121851 in ubiquity "Mythbuntu.org 7.04-070603 i386 Installer crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121851
[04:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121914 in ubiquity "mythbuntu installer crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121914
[04:20] <afflux> we have a mythbuntu project in LP? never heard of it before :)
[04:20] <afflux> oh, right.
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #121992 in bash (main) "bashrc should not depend on /usr mounted" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121992
[04:21] <Hobbsee> afflux: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/121914 and hit "also needs fixing here"
[04:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121914 in ubiquity "mythbuntu installer crashed" [Undecided,New] 
[04:21] <Hobbsee> probably leave the ubiquity task - it may affect ours too, and cjwatson can reject it
[04:21] <Hobbsee> same for that other bug
[04:21] <afflux> okay
[04:21] <afflux> thank your
[04:21] <afflux> -r
[04:22] <Hobbsee> no problem
[04:26] <lousygarua> hello. few days ago i made a notice that the ubuntu logo in ubuntu's launchpad page https://launchpad.net/ubuntu is cropped at the top. well... it's still is? is *that* annoying to fix?
[04:27] <Hobbsee> lousygarua: file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad
[04:27] <persia> lousygarua: Is there an open bug for this?  If not, perhaps the right people just haven't heard about it yet.
[04:28] <persia> Hobbsee: Is that the right place for an issue with the Ubuntu project page?  I thought that was only for launchpad bugs.
[04:28] <Hobbsee> lousygarua: bugs in launchpad tend to have nothing to do with bugs in ubuntu.
[04:28] <afflux> next question would be: what to do with bug 121937? Someone requests a way to let blind people decide in what language the live-cd should boot up.
[04:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121937 in Ubuntu "live-cd should ask for the language country (and maybe keyboard)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121937
[04:28] <Hobbsee> lousygarua: it is - but that ubuntu page is probably created by launchpad.  i'd at least put it there, and then someone can move it to wherever it should be
[04:28] <Hobbsee> but it's place is definetly not just filed under ubuntu
[04:28] <Hobbsee> afflux: ask heno about that one
[04:29] <Hobbsee> afflux: and TheMuso
[04:29] <Hobbsee> (who arent here)
[04:29] <afflux> k
[04:30] <persia> Hobbsee: Hrm.  I'm not sure.  If there was a problem with the DaD logo, wouldn't that get filed against DaD?
[04:30] <Hobbsee> persia: this is true.  but the correct person it should actually be assigned to is ubuntu-drivers - but i suspect the launchpad people will respond quicker than tehy will
[04:32] <persia> Hobbsee: You're probably right regarding response times, etc., but I still think that the workflow would be wrong - there should be an easy way to file bugs about the project configuration on launchpad in Malone, and have them be visible to the drivers of that project, but this becomes a #launchpad discussion, and I'm not motivated enough to have it currently :)
[04:33] <Hobbsee> heh
[04:33] <Hobbsee> especially as the launchpad guys arent there yet
[04:33] <Hobbsee> ubuntu-drivers is mark and matt and such, iirc - and they wont fix it.
[04:34] <lousygarua> Hobbsee: the ubuntu launchpad page was probably created by someone from the ubuntu core team. so same as i can choose my 'branding' on my launchpad page i guess one of the ubuntu core team can.
[04:35] <lousygarua> Hobbsee: i though one of them may be sitting around here
[04:35] <persia> Hobbsee: In that case, I think it's an abuse of LP: one of the drivers should be the person who has been assigned responsibility for maintaining the project page in LP, but given the parties involved, I'm not actually that surprised (they're all busy enough as it is: worrying about who is "supposed" to do things only takes longer).
[04:36] <Hobbsee> lousygarua: which is -drivers, oh, which there are more people in.  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-drivers
[04:36] <Hobbsee> file a bug under ubuntu and assign it to ubuntu-drivers then
[04:36] <persia> lousygarua: You're absolutely correct about who did it, and how it would be fixed.  Given the other things these specific individuals do, Hobbsee is likely correct that you'd get a faster response filing a bug against launchpad itself.
[04:37] <lousygarua> persia: alright then i'll do as Hobbsee suggested, thanks
[04:41] <ubotu> New bug: #121993 in firefox (main) "apport hook test" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121993
[04:42] <lousygarua> how do I assign a bug to someone? "subscribe someone else" ?
[04:43] <coNP> lousygarua: not really
[04:43] <persia> lousygarua: That's the most polite way to do it.  The subscribee would then decide if they should be assigned, or perhaps redirect to another party.
[04:43] <coNP> sorry I am too late
[04:43] <persia> (On the other hand, not all teams actually check +subscribed)
[04:43] <coNP> so actually you are not really supposed to assign it someone else unless he really wants that
[04:44] <lousygarua> wnla
[04:44] <lousygarua> whoa i've just subscribed ubuntu-drivers and it added a whole bunch of teams :)
[04:44] <lousygarua> i hope they kick me out of
[04:44] <lousygarua> ubutnu for t hat (sorry for newline)
[04:44] <lousygarua> *won't kick me out
[04:45] <persia> coNP: Depends on the specific case.  I don't like it when other people assign me bugs (unless I've requested it), so that my +assignedbugs accurately reflects the things I think I'm supposed to be doing.  Some teams prefer assignment.
[04:45] <coNP> okay teams might be other case
[04:46] <ubotu> New bug: #121994 in yelp (main) "nvidia gs7600 driver issue.  cannot change resolution from 1024 x to 1920x." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121994
[04:46] <persia> coNP: Not all teams.  Some teams prefer subscription - it's a good idea to check the team page in the Wiki before assigning.
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #121995 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu logo cropped on launchpad page entry" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121995
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #121996 in firefox (main) "apport hook test" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121996
[04:56] <coNP> persia: do you know who could alter a product logo? in this case Ubuntu's? (bug #121995)
[04:56] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121995 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu logo cropped on launchpad page entry" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121995
[04:56] <Hobbsee> coNP: people in ~ubuntu-drivers
[04:56] <coNP> thanks Hobbsee
[04:57] <Hobbsee> (shown on the front page of launchpad.net/ubuntu)
[04:57] <coNP> it seems to be an easy fix
[04:57] <coNP> sure
[04:57] <persia> coNP: The team is already subscribed (that was the earlier discussion :))
[04:58] <coNP> ahhh... now I see it is the two faces of the same issue
[04:59] <Pierre> hi
[04:59] <Pierre> anyone succeeded to use the networkmanager to connect to a vpn without getting segfaults on auth?
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #121997 in firefox (main) "apport hook test" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121997
[05:13] <sim2> who knows why /var/run and /var/lock are excempted from umounting in /etc/init.d/umountfs
[05:20] <ScottK> sim2: I know /var/run is a tmpfs.  Why would you bother with unmounting it?
[05:21] <sim2> ScottK: it keep my /var busy during shutdown
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #121998 in ubiquity (main) "ubiquity" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121998
[05:21] <ScottK> Is it causing an actual problem?
[05:21] <sim2> ScottK: fsck during reboot
[05:22] <sim2> ScottK: err, reiserfs transaction log roll forward in reboot
[05:22] <ScottK> Ah.
[05:23] <sim2> i really like to patch umountfs to fix it.
[05:23] <ScottK> If you do, it'd make sense then only to unmount it if it's a reiserfs partition.
[05:25] <sim2> but i did not see the reason for excempting /var/lock and /var/run during that stage of the shutdown
[05:26] <sim2> first tmpfs filesystems get umounted, then a swapoff -a and then the normal filesystems, but not /var/run and /var/lock
[05:27] <ScottK> sim2: I'm not an expert, so can't advise you there.  You might look back in the changelog of the package to see if it was changed to exempt them and if it's linked to a bug report.
[05:27] <ScottK> sim2: That might tell you why it's the way it is.
[05:28] <ScottK> sim2: Understanding that is probably a good thing to do before you start changing it.
[05:28] <sim2> ScottK: thanks.
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122005 in firefox (main) "apport hook test" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122005
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122006 in firefox (main) "apport hook test" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122006
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122007 in texlive-bin (main) "pdftex does not work (dup-of: 121327)" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122007
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122009 in vino (main) "** ERROR **: file vino-preferences.c: line 108 (vino_preferences_dialog_get_password_from_keyring)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122009
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122010 in nautilus (main) "Nautilus crashes when opening multimedia file properites" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122010
[06:30] <persia> afflux: About bug 111620: Do I understand correctly from your comments that it only applies to dapper and edgy at this point?
[06:30] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 111620 in wordpress "Remote Exploits: multiple vulnerabilities" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/111620
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122011 in Ubuntu "BUG : at lib/kref .c:32 kref_get()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122011
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122012 in gparted (main) "gparted undefined symbol" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122012
[06:55] <afflux> persia: right.
[07:01] <afflux> persia: oh. just found that there are newer backported versions. These doesn't have the mentioned issues.
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #121981 in debian-installer (main) "maki" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121981
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122013 in banshee (universe) "banshee crashes on first startup (sqlite)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122013
[07:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122016 in drivel (universe) "Unable to login to blogger with google account" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122016
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122017 in tomcat5.5 (universe) "Tomcat 5.5 permissions after install do not permit start up" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122017
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122020 in zile (universe) "Please sync zile (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122020
[08:04] <Nafallo> oh! I need to sub that one :-)
[08:04] <Nafallo> the drivel one :-)
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122022 in Ubuntu ""kernel still alive" appears in 64bit Ed. on install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122022
[08:11] <alfmatos> hi, need a little help in bug actions. What to do with a bug that is fixed in Gutsy, but seen in Feisty. Should it be rejected as wontfix for Feisty ? To fix, it would imply several core modifications, such as kernel version, or a kernel release, and possibly HAL... Bug #79135
[08:11] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 79135 in linux-source-2.6.20 "gnome-power-manager and a problem with the brightness " [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79135
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122015 in tinymux (universe) "Please sync tinymux (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122015
[08:36] <coNP> can a native english speaker please confirm bug 71095?
[08:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 71095 in hddtemp "typo in 3rd configuration screen" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71095
[08:36] <Arby> coNP: confirmed
[08:37] <coNP> I filed it when I was young (and never needed any one), but now it is getting to annoy me more & more
[08:37] <Arby> suggested is correct
[08:37] <coNP> thanks Arby
[08:37] <coNP> it is not a big issue but I want to clean my triaged bug list
[08:37] <Arby> I can leave a comment if you like
[08:38] <coNP> thanks it is enough for now
[08:38] <coNP> unless you want to increase your LP karma :D
[08:39] <Arby> meh, can't hurt
[08:42] <Neolithium> I love first thing in the morning when I connect and have a full inbox. LOL
[08:42] <coNP> Neolithium: sunday or monday morning?
[08:42] <Neolithium> coNP Sunday morning for me :)
[08:43] <Arby> Neolithium: yeah, it gets you like that :)
[08:43] <Arby> compulsive isn't it :)
[08:43] <Neolithium> Absolutely :)
[08:44] <Neolithium> Hmmm, I think I have enough to confirm this bug, but wanted to get a 2nd opinion since it'll be my first confirmation. Anyone wanna double check it for me?  :)
[08:44] <coNP> Neolithium: which bug?
[08:44] <coNP> but I guess you can confirm it if you think you can confirm it :D
[08:44] <Neolithium> LOL. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/119063
[08:44] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119063 in linux-source-2.6.20 "sometimes power button shuts down without asking " [Low,Incomplete] 
[08:44] <Neolithium> It'll come easier with practice I guess, though.
[08:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122023 in Ubuntu "The live CD should somehow prompt for language/country/keymap for blind people" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122023
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122024 in Ubuntu "orca should automatically get started when braille is activated" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122024
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122026 in Ubuntu "Not detect mass storage  Samsung YP-F1 mp3" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122026
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122027 in gst-plugins-bad0.10 (universe) "ship already built equalizer" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122027
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122029 in adept (main) "adept doesn't honour recommends" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122029
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122031 in brasero (universe) "Cannot make copy of audio CD" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122031
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122032 in adept (main) "GG Kubuntu Adept breaks itself after initial update." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122032
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122034 in adept (main) "Adept always shows the same message" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122034
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122035 in Ubuntu "Website links from Fridge.Ubuntu.com don't all work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122035
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122036 in firefox (main) "firefox apport hook test" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122036
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122037 in control-center (main) "could not install upgrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122037