| DaveMorris | superm1: is the ISO gonna be fix for tomorrow? | 12:39 |
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| DaveMorris | http://greenacre.no-ip.com/dave/stuff/complete-manual.pdf <-- latest build of the manual for those interested | 12:40 |
| superm1 | DaveMorris, i should hopefully have it fixed today :) | 12:40 |
| superm1 | i think i finally identified why debconf hates me | 12:40 |
| DaveMorris | well its bed time, so tomorrow ;) | 12:40 |
| superm1 | ah okay | 12:40 |
| superm1 | night then | 12:41 |
| DaveMorris | PM me with any other areas I should talk about in the manual | 12:41 |
| superm1 | ok | 12:41 |
| DaveMorris | I might talk about hardare requirements somehwere | 12:42 |
| superm1 | that would be pretty good | 12:42 |
| superm1 | its just difficult to describe such things | 12:42 |
| superm1 | because it works on many ranges | 12:42 |
| superm1 | okay majoridiot, i've got what should work here - but an ISO needs to be generated to verify. so i'm going to scp this stuff to pegasus and kick off the ISO build | 12:52 |
| superm1 | in the interim | 12:52 |
| superm1 | can you boot a live disk with the ati card and another with the nvidia card in | 12:52 |
| majoridiot | k. lemme know. | 12:52 |
| superm1 | and send me the xorg.conf's that you get generated | 12:52 |
| majoridiot | i can do it each way, yes. | 12:52 |
| superm1 | I want to make sure the same things are getting generated pre-install here | 12:53 |
| superm1 | because it appears that it doesn't want to use anything but the vesa driver on all the machines i've tried | 12:53 |
| majoridiot | i'll install each way | 12:53 |
| majoridiot | nvidia first, since that's what is there right now. | 12:53 |
| superm1 | well no need for an install | 12:53 |
| superm1 | just boot it | 12:53 |
| superm1 | and in live mode | 12:54 |
| superm1 | paste the xorg.conf at a pastebin | 12:54 |
| superm1 | !pastebin | 12:54 |
| superm1 | like that | 12:54 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 12:54 |
| superm1 | and i'll compare with what i've been seeing | 12:54 |
| majoridiot | k... if i'm just booting, where will i find the xorg.conf? | 12:55 |
| superm1 | /etc/X11 | 12:55 |
| majoridiot | (never booted mythbuntu yet) | 12:55 |
| superm1 | well a regular ubuntu disk | 12:55 |
| superm1 | sorry should have specified | 12:55 |
| superm1 | i wanted to compare what a regular feisty live disk | 12:55 |
| superm1 | generates compared to a mythbuntu disk | 12:55 |
| superm1 | for the xorg.conf | 12:55 |
| superm1 | and make sure that they are the same | 12:55 |
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| superm1 | haha | 12:55 |
| superm1 | just grab a 7.04 normal feisty gnomified disk | 12:56 |
| superm1 | and boot that | 12:56 |
| superm1 | while your in live mode, take a look at the xorg.conf it used | 12:56 |
| superm1 | and when the new buntu ISO finishes generating, the two can be compared | 12:56 |
| superm1 | s/buntu/mythbuntu/ | 12:57 |
| majoridiot | k. | 12:57 |
| majoridiot | no need to swap out the hd then. | 12:57 |
| superm1 | right not yet at least | 12:57 |
| majoridiot | np | 12:57 |
| majoridiot | k... going to generate that info now. | 01:17 |
| majoridiot | biab | 01:17 |
| superm1 | k | 01:19 |
| majoridiot | superm1: nvidia- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26945/ | 01:44 |
| majoridiot | superm1: ati- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26946/ | 01:45 |
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| superm1 | ah interesting | 01:45 |
| superm1 | OK. The ISO generation is still running. i'll ping as soon as its done | 01:45 |
| superm1 | majoridiot, http://mythbuntu.org/files/iso/mythbuntu-7.10~070623-i386.iso | 02:00 |
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| majoridiot | nice speed :) | 02:01 |
| superm1 | hopefully things work with this one :) | 02:01 |
| majoridiot | what do you want me to try? | 02:02 |
| superm1 | install with an nvidia card | 02:02 |
| superm1 | and see if it detects your proprietary driver | 02:02 |
| superm1 | preferably if you can install and activate tv out during install | 02:02 |
| superm1 | (it is activated on the next boot) | 02:03 |
| majoridiot | k | 02:03 |
| majoridiot | checking for defects... it looks *VERY* nice :D | 02:13 |
| superm1 | man you beat me to the download :) | 02:13 |
| majoridiot | and the burn | 02:13 |
| majoridiot | :P | 02:13 |
| superm1 | i started it 35 sec before telling you | 02:13 |
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| superm1 | thinking i'd beat you... | 02:13 |
| majoridiot | i got it avg 1100Kbps | 02:14 |
| superm1 | woah | 02:14 |
| superm1 | okay i got around 500 | 02:14 |
| majoridiot | s'why i said "nice speed" | 02:14 |
| superm1 | now i'm hoping that the installer doesn't segfault upon opening | 02:15 |
| superm1 | if nothing happens when you double clikc it let me know | 02:15 |
| majoridiot | 235+ copies have seeded from my box :) | 02:15 |
| superm1 | there is an annoying glib bug that I'm attempting to workaround | 02:15 |
| majoridiot | hm. burn errors. | 02:16 |
| superm1 | well dont trust that actually | 02:17 |
| superm1 | i think the way its calculated is wrong | 02:17 |
| superm1 | on mythbuntu atm | 02:17 |
| majoridiot | k | 02:17 |
| superm1 | i havent looked much into it | 02:17 |
| rogue780 | superm1, has that sata bug been resolved yet? | 02:17 |
| superm1 | no new kernel releases, so i dont think so | 02:17 |
| majoridiot | ok... going to swap out drives and try an install. | 02:17 |
| majoridiot | biab | 02:17 |
| superm1 | rogue780, do u remember the bug number i posted? | 02:17 |
| superm1 | majoridiot, pull any extra drives out too | 02:17 |
| rogue780 | superm1, lemme look at the log | 02:18 |
| superm1 | i noticed that grub likes to write on the mbr of drives | 02:18 |
| majoridiot | rougue780: the gfx look TITS, thus far! | 02:18 |
| rogue780 | majoridiot, thanks, I'm working on a slightly better one atm | 02:18 |
| === majoridiot has now gone to install | ||
| rogue780 | Launchpad bug 106864 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Feisty boot fail "can't access tty" IDE SATA problem" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106864 | 02:20 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 106864 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Feisty boot fail "can't access tty" IDE SATA problem" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106864 | 02:20 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 106864 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Feisty boot fail "can't access tty" IDE SATA problem" [High,Confirmed] | 02:20 |
| superm1 | rogue780, i'd say subscribe to that bug | 02:20 |
| superm1 | and you'll hear once its fixed | 02:20 |
| superm1 | and i can generate a new ISO for it then | 02:21 |
| rogue780 | sweet | 02:23 |
| superm1 | majoridiot, you didnt start install yet did you? | 02:34 |
| superm1 | i see something that needs to be changed | 02:34 |
| superm1 | before you start it | 02:34 |
| superm1 | your going to have to open a terminal and edit a file to take out a line (because I didn't commit one change I forgot about) | 02:36 |
| superm1 | /usr/lib/ubiquity/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-apply | 02:36 |
| superm1 | you need to take out the line that says "update-rc.d samba defaults" | 02:36 |
| majoridiot | already started it. | 02:38 |
| majoridiot | (double-click on install was dificult) | 02:38 |
| superm1 | okay before it gets to 83 percent | 02:38 |
| superm1 | you have to edit this file then | 02:38 |
| superm1 | otherwise it will fail | 02:38 |
| majoridiot | ok... i caught it. | 02:42 |
| majoridiot | pain in the ass... | 02:42 |
| majoridiot | :P | 02:42 |
| superm1 | haha | 02:42 |
| superm1 | well i didn't realize my commit back to bzr didn't include samba installation yet | 02:42 |
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| superm1 | i'm thinking faster than i'm typing unfortunately | 02:42 |
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| majoridiot | superm1: major ubiquity crashes at the end of installation | 02:49 |
| majoridiot | traceback is quite a list | 02:49 |
| superm1 | argh. really? | 02:49 |
| majoridiot | do i need to note by hand for you? | 02:49 |
| superm1 | at what percent | 02:49 |
| majoridiot | at the very end... sec. | 02:49 |
| superm1 | did it detect the video card correctly when you checked the proprietary driver button? | 02:50 |
| superm1 | oh something about configure_services()? | 02:50 |
| majoridiot | yes | 02:51 |
| majoridiot | @ 94% | 02:51 |
| superm1 | okay i've got a few more things to put in yet then | 02:51 |
| majoridiot | mythbuntu_install.py line 132 | 02:51 |
| superm1 | didn't realize that code would actually get called | 02:51 |
| superm1 | did nvidia get detected during install thou? | 02:52 |
| majoridiot | self.configure_services() | 02:52 |
| majoridiot | no attribute configure_services | 02:52 |
| majoridiot | shall i continue on if possible? | 02:52 |
| superm1 | at this point no. i've got a few other odds and ends that i'll fix first | 02:52 |
| majoridiot | it asked if i wanted the prop driver and let me select tv-out, etc. so i think so. | 02:53 |
| majoridiot | everything looked ok until the crash @ 94% | 02:53 |
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| superm1 | okay thanks majoridiot | 02:54 |
| superm1 | i'll let you know if i get another build worthwhile testing tonight | 02:54 |
| majoridiot | k | 02:54 |
| rogue780 | ya'll hear? ubuntu is outselling vista on amazon now | 04:01 |
| superm1 | really? | 04:05 |
| superm1 | um isn't ubuntu free? | 04:06 |
| superm1 | :) | 04:06 |
| rogue780 | superm1, look at www.geocities.com/rogue780/mythbuntutest.png | 04:13 |
| superm1 | ah i'm liking that effect | 04:14 |
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| rogue780 | superm1, look at www.geocities.com/rogue780/mythbuntutest3.png ... early stages | 05:22 |
| superm1 | ah indeed working the way up. shouldnt that circle be an ubuntu though? | 05:22 |
| superm1 | err is ubuntu a noun? | 05:22 |
| superm1 | um an ubuntu logo | 05:23 |
| rogue780 | yeah...haven't figured out how to trisect a circle yet and make it look good...it'll get there | 05:23 |
| rogue780 | anyway. I think I'm getting better w/the gimp | 05:28 |
| superm1 | i'll def. agree there :) | 05:29 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #121914 in ubiquity "mythbuntu installer crashed (dup-of: 121851)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121914 | 04:31 |
| ubotu | New bug: #121851 in ubiquity "Mythbuntu.org 7.04-070603 i386 Installer crashed (dup-of: 119055)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121851 | 05:00 |
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| rogue780 | superm1, you there? | 09:17 |
| superm1 | yea | 09:17 |
| rogue780 | check out www.geocities.com/rogue780/mythbuntutest4.png | 09:17 |
| superm1 | ah like the new tv | 09:18 |
| superm1 | the circle has to be rotated about -35 - -45 degrees | 09:18 |
| superm1 | and you need to be careful with that outline, some of its hard to read on the middlish letters | 09:18 |
| rogue780 | yeah... I'll fix the rotation (brain fart) and I'm trying to get a plugin installed that will fix the glow issue | 09:20 |
| rogue780 | I actually managed to make everything myself on this one and not borrow and modify from something else | 09:31 |
| kruuli | whats that font called rogue780? | 09:35 |
| rogue780 | kruuli, "Ubuntu-Title Not-rotated" | 09:37 |
| rogue780 | sudo apt-get install ttf-ubuntu-title | 09:38 |
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| kruuli | rogue780 thanks :> | 10:14 |
| kruuli | so happy .. finaly got my xbox frontend to work :> | 10:15 |
| kruuli | no more problems with my crappy unichrome card as i wont need it !:D | 10:15 |
| rogue780 | kruuli, how much of a challenge was that? and can you use the xbox remote with mythtv? | 10:15 |
| kruuli | only thing left is the eternal soundcard to work with ubuntu :> | 10:16 |
| kruuli | rogue780 well actually it was none at all | 10:16 |
| rogue780 | ? | 10:16 |
| rogue780 | someone else did it for ya? | 10:16 |
| kruuli | been using XBMC for a couple of years | 10:16 |
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| kruuli | and its a python script called xbmcmythtv | 10:16 |
| rogue780 | I've been wanting to convert my xbox...but I have issues with modchips | 10:16 |
| kruuli | you have why? | 10:16 |
| rogue780 | never seem to work for me. I tried modding a ps2 once...never got the mod chip to work. then the psu fried | 10:17 |
| kruuli | the only problem i had was making mysql going back to oldpassword (they changed the standard in the latest release) | 10:17 |
| kruuli | rogue780 heh been modding a couple of boxes for my friend | 10:17 |
| kruuli | did it oldschool with soldering and stuff .. but i think you can buy solderless now | 10:18 |
| rogue780 | kruuli, you wouldn't happen to be around maryland would you? | 10:18 |
| kruuli | if your not out for HD .. the old xbox realy is the ultimate media machine :> | 10:18 |
| kruuli | rogue780 heh way off .. stockholm sweden :p | 10:18 |
| rogue780 | indeed. | 10:19 |
| rogue780 | I've always wanted to go to sweeden. my great grandmother came from there. | 10:19 |
| rogue780 | and I like those...whaddya call em...ablskeevers? | 10:19 |
| rogue780 | the little spherical pancake thingies? | 10:19 |
| rogue780 | afk | 10:20 |
| kruuli | rogue780 if you visit come in the summer if you dont want 20- C :> | 10:21 |
| kruuli | haha spherical pancake thingies?? .. are you talking about "plttar" there like small pancakes.. | 10:21 |
| kruuli | anyway you should chip your xbox .. buy a solderless chip .. slap it on put a bios on it throw in XBMC and your done .. easy like a pancake as we say in sweden :> | 10:26 |
| rogue780 | kruuli, are there ikea stores in sweeden? or is that an american invention? | 10:33 |
| kruuli | lol :) | 10:35 |
| kruuli | IKEA was founded by Ingvar Kamprad (IKea) a swedish bloke :) | 10:35 |
| kruuli | so yeah we have lots of IKEAs here | 10:36 |
| kruuli | quality sucks though :> | 10:36 |
| kruuli | but hes doing something right .. hes like top 15 of the filthy rich in the world | 10:37 |
| kruuli | still he drives around in an old Volvo (swedish car) :p | 10:38 |
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| rogue780 | superm1, check out www.geocities.com/rogue780/mythbuntutest4.png ... is that better? | 11:44 |
| superm1 | getting better | 11:44 |
| superm1 | is it on purpose that the glows point to the center? | 11:45 |
| rogue780 | yes. I can change that and make it all even if you want | 11:45 |
| Daviey | rogue780: you need a better host - hourly bandwidth reached | 11:46 |
| superm1 | Daviey, good news here | 11:46 |
| superm1 | today's earlier ISO works as expected ..... there is now samba/nfs support included and i've verified both ati and nvidia proprietaries are working | 11:47 |
| superm1 | i'm going to do a new test in a few minutes with the openssh and VNC support enabled | 11:47 |
| rogue780 | Daviey, my bad....it was free | 11:47 |
| Daviey | superm1: WOW | 11:48 |
| Daviey | i'll run the iso tommorow | 11:48 |
| Daviey | rogue780: no worries; i'll look in 12 mins :) | 11:48 |
| superm1 | haha | 11:48 |
| superm1 | just want to get the ssh/vnc working, and then i'm done for today and need to start on my presentation for ULive | 11:49 |
| Daviey | booooooooo | 11:49 |
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| Daviey | has a VFD module & buttons | 11:49 |
| Daviey | "hub 4-8:1.0: Cannot enable port 3. Maybe the USB cable is bad?" | 11:49 |
| superm1 | try another cable? | 11:49 |
| superm1 | ;) | 11:49 |
| Daviey | superm1: it's a pcb 'cable' | 11:50 |
| Daviey | bbl | 11:51 |
| superm1 | k | 11:51 |
| superm1 | cu | 11:51 |
| rogue780 | superm1, I'll make mythbuntutest5.png with everything being even | 11:53 |
| superm1 | k | 11:53 |
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| majoridiot | ping superm1 | 11:56 |
| superm1 | hey majoridiot | 11:56 |
| superm1 | you saw my mail? | 11:56 |
| majoridiot | hola | 11:56 |
| majoridiot | yes | 11:57 |
| majoridiot | still good to test that build? | 11:57 |
| superm1 | yup | 11:57 |
| majoridiot | k. downloading it now. | 11:57 |
| superm1 | been going at it since i got up this morning, i was just going to kick off one more that enables both ssh and vnc - but neither of those are of concern to test what you were going to test | 11:57 |
| superm1 | let me know when your download finishes, i'm going to rename it so as to not overwrite it | 11:58 |
| majoridiot | is the samba thing fixed or should i plan to delete that line again? | 11:58 |
| superm1 | that is fixed | 11:58 |
| majoridiot | appx 3 minutes | 11:58 |
| superm1 | another buddy of mine was downloading it at 990 KB/s earlier | 11:59 |
| majoridiot | 1250Kbps down :) | 11:59 |
| superm1 | that's very nice | 11:59 |
| majoridiot | agreed | 11:59 |
| superm1 | imbrandon, are you here? | 11:59 |
| majoridiot | superm1: download complete | 12:02 |
| superm1 | okay i'll kick off the next one then | 12:02 |
| rogue780 | Daviey, superm1 do ya'll have google docs? | 12:03 |
| superm1 | yes | 12:03 |
| Daviey | yep | 12:03 |
| majoridiot | k... going to swap out drives and test. ping me if needed- i'll be in another room. | 12:06 |
| superm1 | ok | 12:06 |
| rogue780 | superm1, I added you as a collaborator to a google doc titled mythbuntulogo | 12:10 |
| rogue780 | it's easier than using geocities or opening my network to the outside world | 12:11 |
| superm1 | rogue780, there's actually an easier way | 12:11 |
| superm1 | you heard of googlepages ? | 12:11 |
| superm1 | goto USERNAME.googlepages.com | 12:12 |
| superm1 | and take a gander | 12:12 |
| rogue780 | well I'll be darned. I love google | 12:12 |
| superm1 | http://superm1.googlepages.com/ like that is mine, which i used for a senior design portfolio | 12:12 |
| rogue780 | ok | 12:14 |
| rogue780 | http://rogue780.googlepages.com/mythbuntutest5.png :) | 12:14 |
| rogue780 | err maybe not | 12:14 |
| rogue780 | I'm an idiot | 12:14 |
| Daviey | rogue780: you're quite the artist! | 12:14 |
| rogue780 | http://shawn.haggard@googlepages.com/mythbuntu5.png | 12:14 |
| rogue780 | did that link work? | 12:15 |
| Daviey | no | 12:15 |
| rogue780 | http://shawn.haggard.googlepages.com/mythbuntutest5.png | 12:15 |
| rogue780 | I love going between my laptop and vnc | 12:16 |
| superm1 | ah that's looking a lot better rogue780 | 12:16 |
| rogue780 | no copy paste | 12:16 |
| rogue780 | so I'm not entirely sure what to do with the TV, although I think it shouldn't remain white | 12:16 |
| superm1 | rogue780, have you talked it over with the other artwork folks? | 12:16 |
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| rogue780 | not yet. I actually just got that e-mail from you a few minutes ago | 12:23 |
| superm1 | ah okay. Well do email them, i'd like to see some good results by the end of the summer between the four of you :) | 12:24 |
| Daviey | afkb | 12:24 |
| superm1 | afkb? | 12:24 |
| Daviey | away from keyboard... 'now' | 12:25 |
| superm1 | ah | 12:25 |
| superm1 | ok | 12:25 |
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| DaveMorris | superm1: a new ISO to test yet? | 12:27 |
| superm1 | DaveMorris, depends what you want to test? | 12:27 |
| superm1 | :) | 12:27 |
| DaveMorris | will it install? So I can write docs on mythtv-setup ? | 12:27 |
| superm1 | Yup | 12:27 |
| superm1 | the one i'm generating right now hopefully will also have ssh and vnc functional | 12:28 |
| superm1 | but this mornings works | 12:28 |
| superm1 | and gets you samba/nfs any plugin selections, theme selections | 12:28 |
| superm1 | its not active for mysql root password yet or for mythweb htaccess pass though | 12:29 |
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