[12:39] <DaveMorris> superm1: is the ISO gonna be fix for tomorrow?
[12:40] <DaveMorris> http://greenacre.no-ip.com/dave/stuff/complete-manual.pdf <-- latest build of the manual for those interested
[12:40] <superm1> DaveMorris, i should hopefully have it fixed today :)
[12:40] <superm1> i think i finally identified why debconf hates me
[12:40] <DaveMorris> well its bed time, so tomorrow ;)
[12:40] <superm1> ah okay
[12:41] <superm1> night then
[12:41] <DaveMorris> PM me with any other areas I should talk about in the manual
[12:41] <superm1> ok
[12:42] <DaveMorris> I might talk about hardare requirements somehwere
[12:42] <superm1> that would be pretty good
[12:42] <superm1> its just difficult to describe such things
[12:42] <superm1> because it works on many ranges
[12:52] <superm1> okay majoridiot, i've got what should work here - but an ISO needs to be generated to verify.  so i'm going to scp this stuff to pegasus and kick off the ISO build
[12:52] <superm1> in the interim
[12:52] <superm1> can you boot a live disk with the ati card and another with the nvidia card in
[12:52] <majoridiot> k.  lemme know.
[12:52] <superm1> and send me the xorg.conf's that you get generated
[12:52] <majoridiot> i can do it each way, yes.
[12:53] <superm1> I want to make sure the same things are getting generated pre-install here
[12:53] <superm1> because it appears that it doesn't want to use anything but the vesa driver on all the machines i've tried
[12:53] <majoridiot> i'll install each way
[12:53] <majoridiot> nvidia first, since that's what is there right now.
[12:53] <superm1> well no need for an install
[12:53] <superm1> just boot it
[12:54] <superm1> and in live mode
[12:54] <superm1> paste the xorg.conf at a pastebin
[12:54] <superm1> !pastebin
[12:54] <superm1> like that
[12:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:54] <superm1> and i'll compare with what i've been seeing
[12:55] <majoridiot> k... if i'm just booting, where will i find the xorg.conf?
[12:55] <superm1> /etc/X11
[12:55] <majoridiot> (never booted mythbuntu yet)
[12:55] <superm1> well a regular ubuntu disk
[12:55] <superm1> sorry should have specified
[12:55] <superm1> i wanted to compare what a regular feisty live disk
[12:55] <superm1> generates compared to a mythbuntu disk
[12:55] <superm1> for the xorg.conf
[12:55] <superm1> and make sure that they are the same
[12:55] <superm1> haha
[12:56] <superm1> just grab a 7.04 normal feisty gnomified disk
[12:56] <superm1> and boot that
[12:56] <superm1> while your in live mode, take a look at the xorg.conf it used
[12:56] <superm1> and when the new buntu ISO finishes generating, the two can be compared
[12:57] <superm1>  s/buntu/mythbuntu/
[12:57] <majoridiot> k.
[12:57] <majoridiot> no need to swap out the hd then.
[12:57] <superm1> right not yet at least
[12:57] <majoridiot> np
[01:17] <majoridiot> k... going to generate that info now.
[01:17] <majoridiot> biab
[01:19] <superm1> k
[01:44] <majoridiot> superm1: nvidia- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26945/
[01:45] <majoridiot> superm1: ati- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26946/
[01:45] <superm1> ah interesting
[01:45] <superm1> OK.  The ISO generation is still running.  i'll ping as soon as its done
[02:00] <superm1> majoridiot, http://mythbuntu.org/files/iso/mythbuntu-7.10~070623-i386.iso
[02:01] <majoridiot> nice speed :)
[02:01] <superm1> hopefully things work with this one :)
[02:02] <majoridiot> what do you want me to try?
[02:02] <superm1> install with an nvidia card
[02:02] <superm1> and see if it detects your proprietary driver
[02:02] <superm1> preferably if you can install and activate tv out during install
[02:03] <superm1> (it is activated on the next boot)
[02:03] <majoridiot> k
[02:13] <majoridiot> checking for defects... it looks *VERY* nice :D
[02:13] <superm1> man you beat me to the download :)
[02:13] <majoridiot> and the burn
[02:13] <majoridiot> :P
[02:13] <superm1> i started it 35 sec before telling you
[02:13] <superm1> thinking i'd beat you...
[02:14] <majoridiot> i got it avg 1100Kbps
[02:14] <superm1> woah
[02:14] <superm1> okay i got around 500
[02:14] <majoridiot> s'why i said "nice speed"
[02:15] <superm1> now i'm hoping that the installer doesn't segfault upon opening
[02:15] <superm1> if nothing happens when you double clikc it let me know
[02:15] <majoridiot> 235+ copies have seeded from my box :)
[02:15] <superm1> there is an annoying glib bug that I'm attempting to workaround
[02:16] <majoridiot> hm. burn errors.
[02:17] <superm1> well dont trust that actually
[02:17] <superm1> i think the way its calculated is wrong
[02:17] <superm1> on mythbuntu atm
[02:17] <majoridiot> k
[02:17] <superm1> i havent looked much into it
[02:17] <rogue780> superm1, has that sata bug been resolved yet?
[02:17] <superm1> no new kernel releases, so i dont think so
[02:17] <majoridiot> ok... going to swap out drives and try an install.
[02:17] <majoridiot> biab
[02:17] <superm1> rogue780, do u remember the bug number i posted?
[02:17] <superm1> majoridiot, pull any extra drives out too
[02:18] <rogue780> superm1, lemme look at the log
[02:18] <superm1> i noticed that grub likes to write on the mbr of drives
[02:18] <majoridiot> rougue780: the gfx look TITS, thus far!
[02:18] <rogue780> majoridiot, thanks, I'm working on a slightly better one atm
[02:20] <rogue780> Launchpad bug 106864 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Feisty boot fail "can't access tty" IDE SATA problem" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106864
[02:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 106864 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Feisty boot fail "can't access tty" IDE SATA problem" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106864
[02:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 106864 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Feisty boot fail "can't access tty" IDE SATA problem" [High,Confirmed] 
[02:20] <superm1> rogue780, i'd say subscribe to that bug
[02:20] <superm1> and you'll hear once its fixed
[02:21] <superm1> and i can generate a new ISO for it then
[02:23] <rogue780> sweet
[02:34] <superm1> majoridiot, you didnt start install yet did you?
[02:34] <superm1> i see something that needs to be changed
[02:34] <superm1> before you start it
[02:36] <superm1> your going to have to open a terminal and edit a file to take out a line (because I didn't commit one change I forgot about)
[02:36] <superm1> /usr/lib/ubiquity/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-apply
[02:36] <superm1> you need to take out the line that says "update-rc.d samba defaults"
[02:38] <majoridiot> already started it.
[02:38] <majoridiot> (double-click on install was dificult)
[02:38] <superm1> okay before it gets to 83 percent
[02:38] <superm1> you have to edit this file then
[02:38] <superm1> otherwise it will fail
[02:42] <majoridiot> ok... i caught it.
[02:42] <majoridiot> pain in the ass...
[02:42] <majoridiot> :P
[02:42] <superm1> haha
[02:42] <superm1> well i didn't realize my commit back to bzr didn't include samba installation yet
[02:42] <superm1> i'm thinking faster than i'm typing unfortunately
[02:49] <majoridiot> superm1: major ubiquity crashes at the end of installation
[02:49] <majoridiot> traceback is quite a list
[02:49] <superm1> argh. really?
[02:49] <majoridiot> do i need to note by hand for you?
[02:49] <superm1> at what percent
[02:49] <majoridiot> at the very end... sec.
[02:50] <superm1> did it detect the video card correctly when you checked the proprietary driver button?
[02:50] <superm1> oh something about configure_services()?
[02:51] <majoridiot> yes
[02:51] <majoridiot> @ 94%
[02:51] <superm1> okay i've got a few more things to put in yet then
[02:51] <majoridiot> mythbuntu_install.py line 132
[02:51] <superm1> didn't realize that code would actually get called
[02:52] <superm1> did nvidia get detected during install thou?
[02:52] <majoridiot> self.configure_services()
[02:52] <majoridiot> no attribute configure_services
[02:52] <majoridiot> shall i continue on if possible?
[02:52] <superm1> at this point no.  i've got a few other odds and ends that i'll fix first
[02:53] <majoridiot> it asked if i wanted the prop driver and let me select tv-out, etc. so i think so.
[02:53] <majoridiot> everything looked ok until the crash @ 94%
[02:54] <superm1> okay thanks majoridiot
[02:54] <superm1> i'll let you know if i get another build worthwhile testing tonight
[02:54] <majoridiot> k
[04:01] <rogue780> ya'll hear? ubuntu is outselling vista on amazon now
[04:05] <superm1> really?
[04:06] <superm1> um isn't ubuntu free?
[04:06] <superm1> :)
[04:13] <rogue780> superm1, look at www.geocities.com/rogue780/mythbuntutest.png
[04:14] <superm1> ah i'm liking that effect
[05:22] <rogue780> superm1, look at www.geocities.com/rogue780/mythbuntutest3.png ... early stages
[05:22] <superm1> ah indeed working the way up.  shouldnt that circle be an ubuntu though?
[05:22] <superm1> err is ubuntu a noun?
[05:23] <superm1> um an ubuntu logo
[05:23] <rogue780> yeah...haven't figured out how to trisect a circle yet and make it look good...it'll get there
[05:28] <rogue780> anyway. I think I'm getting better w/the gimp
[05:29] <superm1> i'll def. agree there :)
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #121914 in ubiquity "mythbuntu installer crashed (dup-of: 121851)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121914
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #121851 in ubiquity "Mythbuntu.org 7.04-070603 i386 Installer crashed (dup-of: 119055)" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121851
[09:17] <rogue780> superm1, you there?
[09:17] <superm1> yea
[09:17] <rogue780> check out www.geocities.com/rogue780/mythbuntutest4.png
[09:18] <superm1> ah like the new tv
[09:18] <superm1> the circle has to be rotated about -35 - -45 degrees
[09:18] <superm1> and you need to be careful with that outline, some of its hard to read on the middlish letters
[09:20] <rogue780> yeah... I'll fix the rotation (brain fart) and I'm trying to get a plugin installed that will fix the glow issue
[09:31] <rogue780> I actually managed to make everything myself on this one and not borrow and modify from something else
[09:35] <kruuli> whats that font called rogue780?
[09:37] <rogue780> kruuli, "Ubuntu-Title Not-rotated"
[09:38] <rogue780> sudo apt-get install ttf-ubuntu-title
[10:14] <kruuli> rogue780 thanks :>
[10:15] <kruuli> so happy .. finaly got my xbox frontend to work :>
[10:15] <kruuli> no more problems with my crappy unichrome card as i wont need it !:D
[10:15] <rogue780> kruuli, how much of a challenge was that? and can you use the xbox remote with mythtv?
[10:16] <kruuli> only thing left is the eternal soundcard to work with ubuntu :>
[10:16] <kruuli> rogue780 well actually it was none at all
[10:16] <rogue780> ?
[10:16] <rogue780> someone else did it for ya?
[10:16] <kruuli> been using XBMC for a couple of years
[10:16] <kruuli> and its a python script called xbmcmythtv
[10:16] <rogue780> I've been wanting to convert my xbox...but I have issues with modchips
[10:16] <kruuli> you have why?
[10:17] <rogue780> never seem to work for me. I tried modding a ps2 once...never got the mod chip to work. then the psu fried
[10:17] <kruuli> the only problem i had was making mysql going back to oldpassword (they changed the standard in the latest release)
[10:17] <kruuli> rogue780 heh been modding a couple of boxes for my friend
[10:18] <kruuli> did it oldschool with soldering and stuff .. but i think you can buy solderless now
[10:18] <rogue780> kruuli, you wouldn't happen to be around maryland would you?
[10:18] <kruuli> if your not out for HD .. the old xbox realy is the ultimate media machine :>
[10:18] <kruuli> rogue780 heh way off .. stockholm sweden :p
[10:19] <rogue780> indeed.
[10:19] <rogue780> I've always wanted to go to sweeden. my great grandmother came from there.
[10:19] <rogue780> and I like those...whaddya call em...ablskeevers?
[10:19] <rogue780> the little spherical pancake thingies?
[10:20] <rogue780> afk
[10:21] <kruuli> rogue780 if you visit come in the summer if you dont want 20- C :>
[10:21] <kruuli> haha spherical pancake thingies?? .. are you talking about "plttar" there like small pancakes..
[10:26] <kruuli> anyway you should chip your xbox .. buy a solderless chip .. slap it on put a bios on it throw in XBMC and your done .. easy like a pancake as we say in sweden :>
[10:33] <rogue780> kruuli, are there ikea stores in sweeden? or is that an american invention?
[10:35] <kruuli> lol :)
[10:35] <kruuli> IKEA was founded by Ingvar Kamprad (IKea) a swedish bloke :)
[10:36] <kruuli> so yeah we have lots of IKEAs here
[10:36] <kruuli> quality sucks though :>
[10:37] <kruuli> but hes doing something right .. hes like top 15 of the filthy rich in the world
[10:38] <kruuli> still he drives around in an old Volvo (swedish car) :p
[11:44] <rogue780> superm1, check out www.geocities.com/rogue780/mythbuntutest4.png ... is that better?
[11:44] <superm1> getting better
[11:45] <superm1> is it on purpose that the glows point to the center?
[11:45] <rogue780> yes. I can change that and make it all even if you want
[11:46] <Daviey> rogue780: you need a better host - hourly bandwidth reached
[11:46] <superm1> Daviey, good news here
[11:47] <superm1> today's earlier ISO works as expected ..... there is now samba/nfs support included and i've verified both ati and nvidia proprietaries are working
[11:47] <superm1> i'm going to do a new test in a few minutes with the openssh and VNC support enabled
[11:47] <rogue780> Daviey, my bad....it was free
[11:48] <Daviey> superm1: WOW
[11:48] <Daviey> i'll run the iso tommorow
[11:48] <Daviey> rogue780: no worries; i'll look in 12 mins :)
[11:48] <superm1> haha
[11:49] <superm1> just want to get the ssh/vnc working, and then i'm done for today and need to start on my presentation for ULive
[11:49] <Daviey> booooooooo
[11:49] <Daviey> has a VFD module & buttons
[11:49] <Daviey> "hub 4-8:1.0: Cannot enable port 3.  Maybe the USB cable is bad?"
[11:49] <superm1> try another cable?
[11:49] <superm1> ;)
[11:50] <Daviey> superm1: it's a pcb 'cable'
[11:51] <Daviey> bbl
[11:51] <superm1> k
[11:51] <superm1> cu
[11:53] <rogue780> superm1, I'll make mythbuntutest5.png with everything being even
[11:53] <superm1> k
[11:56] <majoridiot> ping superm1
[11:56] <superm1> hey majoridiot
[11:56] <superm1> you saw my mail?
[11:56] <majoridiot> hola
[11:57] <majoridiot> yes
[11:57] <majoridiot> still good to test that build?
[11:57] <superm1> yup
[11:57] <majoridiot> k.  downloading it now.
[11:57] <superm1> been going at it since i got up this morning, i was just going to kick off one more that enables both ssh and vnc - but neither of those are of concern to test what you were going to test
[11:58] <superm1> let me know when your download finishes, i'm going to rename it so as to not overwrite it
[11:58] <majoridiot> is the samba thing fixed or should i plan to delete that line again?
[11:58] <superm1> that is fixed
[11:58] <majoridiot> appx 3 minutes
[11:59] <superm1> another buddy of mine was downloading it at 990 KB/s earlier
[11:59] <majoridiot> 1250Kbps down :)
[11:59] <superm1> that's very nice
[11:59] <majoridiot> agreed
[11:59] <superm1> imbrandon, are you here?
[12:02] <majoridiot> superm1: download complete
[12:02] <superm1> okay i'll kick off the next one then
[12:03] <rogue780> Daviey, superm1 do ya'll have google docs?
[12:03] <superm1> yes
[12:03] <Daviey> yep
[12:06] <majoridiot> k... going to swap out drives and test.  ping me if needed- i'll be in another room.
[12:06] <superm1> ok
[12:10] <rogue780> superm1, I added you as a collaborator to a google doc titled mythbuntulogo
[12:11] <rogue780> it's easier than using geocities or opening my network to the outside world
[12:11] <superm1> rogue780, there's actually an easier way
[12:11] <superm1> you heard of googlepages ?
[12:12] <superm1> goto USERNAME.googlepages.com
[12:12] <superm1> and take a gander
[12:12] <rogue780> well I'll be darned. I love google
[12:12] <superm1> http://superm1.googlepages.com/  like that is mine, which i used for a senior design portfolio
[12:14] <rogue780> ok
[12:14] <rogue780> http://rogue780.googlepages.com/mythbuntutest5.png :)
[12:14] <rogue780> err maybe not
[12:14] <rogue780> I'm an idiot
[12:14] <Daviey> rogue780: you're quite the artist!
[12:14] <rogue780> http://shawn.haggard@googlepages.com/mythbuntu5.png
[12:15] <rogue780> did that link work?
[12:15] <Daviey> no
[12:15] <rogue780> http://shawn.haggard.googlepages.com/mythbuntutest5.png
[12:16] <rogue780> I love going between my laptop and vnc
[12:16] <superm1> ah that's looking a lot better rogue780
[12:16] <rogue780> no copy paste
[12:16] <rogue780> so I'm not entirely sure what to do with the TV, although I think it shouldn't remain white
[12:16] <superm1> rogue780, have you talked it over with the other artwork folks?
[12:23] <rogue780> not yet. I actually just got that e-mail from you a few minutes ago
[12:24] <superm1> ah okay.  Well do email them, i'd like to see some good results by the end of the summer between the four of you :)
[12:24] <Daviey> afkb
[12:24] <superm1> afkb?
[12:25] <Daviey> away from keyboard... 'now'
[12:25] <superm1> ah
[12:25] <superm1> ok
[12:27] <DaveMorris> superm1: a new ISO to test yet?
[12:27] <superm1> DaveMorris, depends what you want to test?
[12:27] <superm1> :)
[12:27] <DaveMorris> will it install?  So I can write docs on mythtv-setup ?
[12:27] <superm1> Yup
[12:28] <superm1> the one i'm generating right now hopefully will also have ssh and vnc functional
[12:28] <superm1> but this mornings works
[12:28] <superm1> and gets you samba/nfs any plugin selections, theme selections
[12:29] <superm1> its not active for mysql root password yet or for mythweb htaccess pass though