[12:39] superm1: is the ISO gonna be fix for tomorrow? [12:40] http://greenacre.no-ip.com/dave/stuff/complete-manual.pdf <-- latest build of the manual for those interested [12:40] DaveMorris, i should hopefully have it fixed today :) [12:40] i think i finally identified why debconf hates me [12:40] well its bed time, so tomorrow ;) [12:40] ah okay [12:41] night then [12:41] PM me with any other areas I should talk about in the manual [12:41] ok [12:42] I might talk about hardare requirements somehwere [12:42] that would be pretty good [12:42] its just difficult to describe such things [12:42] because it works on many ranges [12:52] okay majoridiot, i've got what should work here - but an ISO needs to be generated to verify. so i'm going to scp this stuff to pegasus and kick off the ISO build [12:52] in the interim [12:52] can you boot a live disk with the ati card and another with the nvidia card in [12:52] k. lemme know. [12:52] and send me the xorg.conf's that you get generated [12:52] i can do it each way, yes. [12:53] I want to make sure the same things are getting generated pre-install here [12:53] because it appears that it doesn't want to use anything but the vesa driver on all the machines i've tried [12:53] i'll install each way [12:53] nvidia first, since that's what is there right now. [12:53] well no need for an install [12:53] just boot it [12:54] and in live mode [12:54] paste the xorg.conf at a pastebin [12:54] !pastebin [12:54] like that [12:54] pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [12:54] and i'll compare with what i've been seeing [12:55] k... if i'm just booting, where will i find the xorg.conf? [12:55] /etc/X11 [12:55] (never booted mythbuntu yet) [12:55] well a regular ubuntu disk [12:55] sorry should have specified [12:55] i wanted to compare what a regular feisty live disk [12:55] generates compared to a mythbuntu disk [12:55] for the xorg.conf [12:55] and make sure that they are the same === majoridiot is now confused [12:55] haha [12:56] just grab a 7.04 normal feisty gnomified disk [12:56] and boot that [12:56] while your in live mode, take a look at the xorg.conf it used [12:56] and when the new buntu ISO finishes generating, the two can be compared [12:57] s/buntu/mythbuntu/ [12:57] k. [12:57] no need to swap out the hd then. [12:57] right not yet at least [12:57] np [01:17] k... going to generate that info now. [01:17] biab [01:19] k [01:44] superm1: nvidia- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26945/ [01:45] superm1: ati- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26946/ === majoridiot goes off to cook some noodles [01:45] ah interesting [01:45] OK. The ISO generation is still running. i'll ping as soon as its done [02:00] majoridiot, http://mythbuntu.org/files/iso/mythbuntu-7.10~070623-i386.iso === majoridiot is munching some noodles... :) [02:01] nice speed :) [02:01] hopefully things work with this one :) [02:02] what do you want me to try? [02:02] install with an nvidia card [02:02] and see if it detects your proprietary driver [02:02] preferably if you can install and activate tv out during install [02:03] (it is activated on the next boot) [02:03] k [02:13] checking for defects... it looks *VERY* nice :D [02:13] man you beat me to the download :) [02:13] and the burn [02:13] :P [02:13] i started it 35 sec before telling you === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [02:13] thinking i'd beat you... [02:14] i got it avg 1100Kbps [02:14] woah [02:14] okay i got around 500 [02:14] s'why i said "nice speed" [02:15] now i'm hoping that the installer doesn't segfault upon opening [02:15] if nothing happens when you double clikc it let me know [02:15] 235+ copies have seeded from my box :) [02:15] there is an annoying glib bug that I'm attempting to workaround [02:16] hm. burn errors. [02:17] well dont trust that actually [02:17] i think the way its calculated is wrong [02:17] on mythbuntu atm [02:17] k [02:17] i havent looked much into it [02:17] superm1, has that sata bug been resolved yet? [02:17] no new kernel releases, so i dont think so [02:17] ok... going to swap out drives and try an install. [02:17] biab [02:17] rogue780, do u remember the bug number i posted? [02:17] majoridiot, pull any extra drives out too [02:18] superm1, lemme look at the log [02:18] i noticed that grub likes to write on the mbr of drives [02:18] rougue780: the gfx look TITS, thus far! [02:18] majoridiot, thanks, I'm working on a slightly better one atm === majoridiot has now gone to install [02:20] Launchpad bug 106864 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Feisty boot fail "can't access tty" IDE SATA problem" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106864 [02:20] Launchpad bug 106864 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Feisty boot fail "can't access tty" IDE SATA problem" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106864 [02:20] Launchpad bug 106864 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Feisty boot fail "can't access tty" IDE SATA problem" [High,Confirmed] [02:20] rogue780, i'd say subscribe to that bug [02:20] and you'll hear once its fixed [02:21] and i can generate a new ISO for it then [02:23] sweet [02:34] majoridiot, you didnt start install yet did you? [02:34] i see something that needs to be changed [02:34] before you start it [02:36] your going to have to open a terminal and edit a file to take out a line (because I didn't commit one change I forgot about) [02:36] /usr/lib/ubiquity/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-apply [02:36] you need to take out the line that says "update-rc.d samba defaults" [02:38] already started it. [02:38] (double-click on install was dificult) [02:38] okay before it gets to 83 percent [02:38] you have to edit this file then [02:38] otherwise it will fail [02:42] ok... i caught it. [02:42] pain in the ass... [02:42] :P [02:42] haha [02:42] well i didn't realize my commit back to bzr didn't include samba installation yet === reclusivemonkey [n=monkey@host86-133-225-36.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Ex-Chat"] [02:42] i'm thinking faster than i'm typing unfortunately === majoridiot is going back to the other room for the install [02:49] superm1: major ubiquity crashes at the end of installation [02:49] traceback is quite a list [02:49] argh. really? [02:49] do i need to note by hand for you? [02:49] at what percent [02:49] at the very end... sec. [02:50] did it detect the video card correctly when you checked the proprietary driver button? [02:50] oh something about configure_services()? [02:51] yes [02:51] @ 94% [02:51] okay i've got a few more things to put in yet then [02:51] mythbuntu_install.py line 132 [02:51] didn't realize that code would actually get called [02:52] did nvidia get detected during install thou? [02:52] self.configure_services() [02:52] no attribute configure_services [02:52] shall i continue on if possible? [02:52] at this point no. i've got a few other odds and ends that i'll fix first [02:53] it asked if i wanted the prop driver and let me select tv-out, etc. so i think so. [02:53] everything looked ok until the crash @ 94% === majoridiot goes to put the server back together so he can watch tv [02:54] okay thanks majoridiot [02:54] i'll let you know if i get another build worthwhile testing tonight [02:54] k [04:01] ya'll hear? ubuntu is outselling vista on amazon now [04:05] really? [04:06] um isn't ubuntu free? [04:06] :) [04:13] superm1, look at www.geocities.com/rogue780/mythbuntutest.png [04:14] ah i'm liking that effect === erick_ [n=erick@74.39.186.227] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === erick_ [n=erick@74.39.186.227] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Leaving"] === erick [n=erick@74.39.186.227] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:22] superm1, look at www.geocities.com/rogue780/mythbuntutest3.png ... early stages [05:22] ah indeed working the way up. shouldnt that circle be an ubuntu though? [05:22] err is ubuntu a noun? [05:23] um an ubuntu logo [05:23] yeah...haven't figured out how to trisect a circle yet and make it look good...it'll get there [05:28] anyway. I think I'm getting better w/the gimp [05:29] i'll def. agree there :) === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5F05E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === reclusivemonkey [n=monkey@host86-133-225-36.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === reclusivemonkey [n=monkey@host86-133-225-36.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === hugol1 [n=jo@89.129.177.151] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === hugolp [n=jo@89.129.169.167] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === reclusivemonkey [n=monkey@host86-133-225-36.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === Castigador [n=Alfredo@88.Red-80-38-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === reclusivemonkey [n=monkey@host86-133-225-36.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:31] New bug: #121914 in ubiquity "mythbuntu installer crashed (dup-of: 121851)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121914 [05:00] New bug: #121851 in ubiquity "Mythbuntu.org 7.04-070603 i386 Installer crashed (dup-of: 119055)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121851 === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === tgm4883 [n=thomas@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === kruuli [i=kruuli@c-bcb772d5.013-36-73746f51.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:17] superm1, you there? [09:17] yea [09:17] check out www.geocities.com/rogue780/mythbuntutest4.png [09:18] ah like the new tv [09:18] the circle has to be rotated about -35 - -45 degrees [09:18] and you need to be careful with that outline, some of its hard to read on the middlish letters [09:20] yeah... I'll fix the rotation (brain fart) and I'm trying to get a plugin installed that will fix the glow issue [09:31] I actually managed to make everything myself on this one and not borrow and modify from something else [09:35] whats that font called rogue780? [09:37] kruuli, "Ubuntu-Title Not-rotated" [09:38] sudo apt-get install ttf-ubuntu-title === tgm4883_laptop [n=tgm4883@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:14] rogue780 thanks :> [10:15] so happy .. finaly got my xbox frontend to work :> [10:15] no more problems with my crappy unichrome card as i wont need it !:D [10:15] kruuli, how much of a challenge was that? and can you use the xbox remote with mythtv? [10:16] only thing left is the eternal soundcard to work with ubuntu :> [10:16] rogue780 well actually it was none at all [10:16] ? [10:16] someone else did it for ya? [10:16] been using XBMC for a couple of years === spiderworm [n=spiderwo@blender/support/spiderworm] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:16] and its a python script called xbmcmythtv [10:16] I've been wanting to convert my xbox...but I have issues with modchips [10:16] you have why? [10:17] never seem to work for me. I tried modding a ps2 once...never got the mod chip to work. then the psu fried [10:17] the only problem i had was making mysql going back to oldpassword (they changed the standard in the latest release) [10:17] rogue780 heh been modding a couple of boxes for my friend [10:18] did it oldschool with soldering and stuff .. but i think you can buy solderless now [10:18] kruuli, you wouldn't happen to be around maryland would you? [10:18] if your not out for HD .. the old xbox realy is the ultimate media machine :> [10:18] rogue780 heh way off .. stockholm sweden :p [10:19] indeed. [10:19] I've always wanted to go to sweeden. my great grandmother came from there. [10:19] and I like those...whaddya call em...ablskeevers? [10:19] the little spherical pancake thingies? [10:20] afk [10:21] rogue780 if you visit come in the summer if you dont want 20- C :> [10:21] haha spherical pancake thingies?? .. are you talking about "plttar" there like small pancakes.. [10:26] anyway you should chip your xbox .. buy a solderless chip .. slap it on put a bios on it throw in XBMC and your done .. easy like a pancake as we say in sweden :> [10:33] kruuli, are there ikea stores in sweeden? or is that an american invention? [10:35] lol :) [10:35] IKEA was founded by Ingvar Kamprad (IKea) a swedish bloke :) [10:36] so yeah we have lots of IKEAs here [10:36] quality sucks though :> [10:37] but hes doing something right .. hes like top 15 of the filthy rich in the world [10:38] still he drives around in an old Volvo (swedish car) :p === tgm4883 [n=thomas@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === CheezWah [n=dcarros@72.168.243.25] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:44] superm1, check out www.geocities.com/rogue780/mythbuntutest4.png ... is that better? [11:44] getting better [11:45] is it on purpose that the glows point to the center? [11:45] yes. I can change that and make it all even if you want [11:46] rogue780: you need a better host - hourly bandwidth reached [11:46] Daviey, good news here [11:47] today's earlier ISO works as expected ..... there is now samba/nfs support included and i've verified both ati and nvidia proprietaries are working [11:47] i'm going to do a new test in a few minutes with the openssh and VNC support enabled [11:47] Daviey, my bad....it was free [11:48] superm1: WOW [11:48] i'll run the iso tommorow [11:48] rogue780: no worries; i'll look in 12 mins :) [11:48] haha [11:49] just want to get the ssh/vnc working, and then i'm done for today and need to start on my presentation for ULive [11:49] booooooooo === Daviey got a new case.... [11:49] has a VFD module & buttons [11:49] "hub 4-8:1.0: Cannot enable port 3. Maybe the USB cable is bad?" [11:49] try another cable? [11:49] ;) [11:50] superm1: it's a pcb 'cable' [11:51] bbl [11:51] k [11:51] cu [11:53] superm1, I'll make mythbuntutest5.png with everything being even [11:53] k === majoridiot [n=majoridi@74-141-134-199.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:56] ping superm1 [11:56] hey majoridiot [11:56] you saw my mail? [11:56] hola [11:57] yes [11:57] still good to test that build? [11:57] yup [11:57] k. downloading it now. [11:57] been going at it since i got up this morning, i was just going to kick off one more that enables both ssh and vnc - but neither of those are of concern to test what you were going to test [11:58] let me know when your download finishes, i'm going to rename it so as to not overwrite it [11:58] is the samba thing fixed or should i plan to delete that line again? [11:58] that is fixed [11:58] appx 3 minutes [11:59] another buddy of mine was downloading it at 990 KB/s earlier [11:59] 1250Kbps down :) [11:59] that's very nice [11:59] agreed [11:59] imbrandon, are you here? [12:02] superm1: download complete [12:02] okay i'll kick off the next one then [12:03] Daviey, superm1 do ya'll have google docs? [12:03] yes [12:03] yep [12:06] k... going to swap out drives and test. ping me if needed- i'll be in another room. [12:06] ok [12:10] superm1, I added you as a collaborator to a google doc titled mythbuntulogo [12:11] it's easier than using geocities or opening my network to the outside world [12:11] rogue780, there's actually an easier way [12:11] you heard of googlepages ? [12:12] goto USERNAME.googlepages.com [12:12] and take a gander [12:12] well I'll be darned. I love google [12:12] http://superm1.googlepages.com/ like that is mine, which i used for a senior design portfolio [12:14] ok [12:14] http://rogue780.googlepages.com/mythbuntutest5.png :) [12:14] err maybe not [12:14] I'm an idiot [12:14] rogue780: you're quite the artist! [12:14] http://shawn.haggard@googlepages.com/mythbuntu5.png [12:15] did that link work? [12:15] no [12:15] http://shawn.haggard.googlepages.com/mythbuntutest5.png [12:16] I love going between my laptop and vnc [12:16] ah that's looking a lot better rogue780 [12:16] no copy paste [12:16] so I'm not entirely sure what to do with the TV, although I think it shouldn't remain white [12:16] rogue780, have you talked it over with the other artwork folks? === lofty40 [n=Mario@dD5774BDD.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:23] not yet. I actually just got that e-mail from you a few minutes ago [12:24] ah okay. Well do email them, i'd like to see some good results by the end of the summer between the four of you :) [12:24] afkb [12:24] afkb? [12:25] away from keyboard... 'now' [12:25] ah [12:25] ok === DaveMorris [n=dave@host-212-158-244-26.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [12:27] superm1: a new ISO to test yet? [12:27] DaveMorris, depends what you want to test? [12:27] :) [12:27] will it install? So I can write docs on mythtv-setup ? [12:27] Yup [12:28] the one i'm generating right now hopefully will also have ssh and vnc functional [12:28] but this mornings works [12:28] and gets you samba/nfs any plugin selections, theme selections [12:29] its not active for mysql root password yet or for mythweb htaccess pass though