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=== nealmcb listens to David on the radio: http://www.helpmerick.com/node/1529 and http://www.helpmerick.com/node/1530 - good stuff! But you still really can't listen to many typical videos out of the box with the base installation.... | ||
nealmcb | oops - wrong channel - that's the colorado loco team lead doing an interview on ubuntu on a web radio station.... | 01:02 |
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nealmcb | I installed krb5-kdc on feisty, and can't get past this error on any command: Improper format of Kerberos configuration file while initializing context | 03:17 |
nealmcb | initially the /etc/krb5kdc/kdc.conf did seem invalid, with a missing realm name, but I changed it to be identical to /usr/share/doc/krb5-kdc/examples/kdc.conf and still run into problems | 03:18 |
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trappist | is there some trick to making sasl auth with pam work with postfix chrooted? I can't seem to make it work. | 03:30 |
trappist | no errors, just authentication failures with known-good credentials | 03:30 |
trappist | ok now I'm beginning to suspect my MUA. | 03:39 |
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nealmcb | aha - the config file that kadmin.local is complaining about is /etc/krb5.conf not /etc/krb5kdc/kdc.conf - hmmm | 04:32 |
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PureEvilGeek | I want to build an ubuntu server that can pull in my pop3 e-mails from various accounts and then either let me access that through evolution/outlook or through a web interface. what program would I want to use with the server to do this? | 04:51 |
`6og | PureEvilGeek, you'd probal y need a few thigns working together | 04:52 |
PureEvilGeek | you have any idea how to say what i want in a better way then i am?:) | 04:53 |
PureEvilGeek | i was looking at opengroupware.org but i'm not even sure if thats what i want | 04:53 |
`6og | i dont know a better way of saying it, i just dont know of anything that does what you want | 04:54 |
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nealmcb | aha - giving a valid realm name in both /etc/krb5.conf and /etc/krb5kdc/kdc.conf lets me run krb5_newrealm so I'm off and running.... I think the default contents of those files should document this - so it is probably time for a bug.... | 06:03 |
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nevets | hi | 07:19 |
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nevets | Hi | 07:47 |
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apetrescu | Hey guys :) | 08:13 |
apetrescu | I'm having a strange problem. I'm trying to install the server edition on a somewhat old pc. Partway through the install it "searches hardware for cd-rom devices"; and then after a while it complains that it found no CD drive, which is odd, because the installer is currently running off of that CD drive! | 08:30 |
apetrescu | Is there anything I can do? I don't know which module it is supposed to be to pick it manually. | 08:31 |
apetrescu | Note that I had no such problems installing Gentoo | 08:31 |
apetrescu | (On the same hardware) | 08:31 |
apetrescu | Anyone...? | 08:37 |
`6og | use a different cd drive is the cure i know | 08:40 |
apetrescu | `6og: It's the only CD drive I've got =/ | 08:40 |
`6og | :\ | 08:40 |
`6og | i think i can tell you why it happens, but that wont help much i suspect | 08:41 |
apetrescu | The installer is loaded onto RAMdisk by the BIOS, and Linux does not have the right module to access it as a filesystem to grab other components? | 08:42 |
apetrescu | That's my guess. | 08:42 |
apetrescu | I know that my hardware isn't really obscure or anything, because Gentoo had no problem installing on it. | 08:43 |
`6og | cd boots in floppy compatability mode (ie the computer boots "a floppy disc"), then when it looks for the cd drive it cant find it | 08:43 |
apetrescu | I may boot up Gentoo, do an 'lsmod' to see what module it loaded for the cdrom, and tell Ubuntu to use that | 08:43 |
apetrescu | But that'll take sooo looong (slow computer) and it's already almost 3:00 AM here >_< | 08:44 |
`6og | :| | 08:45 |
apetrescu | So, nobody has any ideas? =/ | 08:51 |
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`6og | go to sleep :) | 08:52 |
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chila | I'm having some trouble with my postfix server | 05:40 |
chila | I can't send emails or login to the UebiMiau webmail front | 05:42 |
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chila | can anyone help with that | 05:49 |
slackwarelife | chila: what have you ??? | 06:04 |
chila | 6.06 | 06:04 |
chila | postfix | 06:04 |
chila | ispconfig | 06:05 |
slackwarelife | chila: postfix, let me know | 06:05 |
chila | what do you mean | 06:06 |
slackwarelife | chila: what is your problem ??? | 06:06 |
chila | I can't send mail | 06:06 |
chila | or recieve mail | 06:06 |
chila | well recieving isnt the prpblem yet | 06:07 |
slackwarelife | chila: send is your problem | 06:07 |
chila | yes | 06:07 |
chila | I can't send anything | 06:08 |
slackwarelife | chila: you are using postfix with php | 06:08 |
chila | I believe so... | 06:08 |
chila | I have ISPCongig installed | 06:08 |
chila | and thats all setup | 06:08 |
chila | I didnt configure php with postfix | 06:09 |
slackwarelife | chila: in your /etc/postfix/main.cf there is this line: relayhost = "your provider smtp server" | 06:12 |
chila | it is blank | 06:13 |
slackwarelife | chila: it is your problem | 06:14 |
chila | really? | 06:14 |
chila | what should be there | 06:14 |
slackwarelife | chila: do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix" and remply this: | 06:14 |
chila | I did this yesterday but where did I go wrong | 06:15 |
slackwarelife | - Ok - Internet site - NONE - mail.mydomain.com - mail.mydomain.com, localhost, localhost.localdomain - No - 127.0.0.0/8 - Yes - 0 - + - All | 06:16 |
slackwarelife | This "-" is for change the line reply | 06:17 |
slackwarelife | When you had installed postfix you didn't have reply to all question | 06:17 |
chila | I used all the setting from here http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06_p5 | 06:18 |
chila | and I believe these are all the settings you have just listed | 06:19 |
chila | also do I need to do all the after 'postconf -e' stuff? | 06:20 |
slackwarelife | chila: but you want TLS ??? | 06:20 |
chila | yeah | 06:20 |
chila | but not by defualt | 06:20 |
slackwarelife | chila: but you want it now ??? | 06:22 |
chila | well right now no | 06:23 |
chila | I just want it to work | 06:23 |
chila | and then later I will configure TLS | 06:23 |
chila | but it should work anyway if I configure it right | 06:23 |
slackwarelife | chila: for easy reconfigure of postfix you can do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix" | 06:24 |
slackwarelife | chila: this will ask some question | 06:24 |
slackwarelife | chila: you can reply with the string I posted before (remember "-" this is a change question) | 06:25 |
slackwarelife | chila: after this you will have a /etc/postfix/main.cf | 06:25 |
slackwarelife | but before you must restart the postfix: "sudo /etc/init.d/postfix reload" | 06:26 |
chila | one sec | 06:26 |
slackwarelife | chila: after restart you can change the main.cf file with: "sudo nano /etc/postfix/main.cf" or "sudo gedit /etc/postfix/main.cf" | 06:27 |
slackwarelife | chila: and insert this line: relayhost = your smtp provider server | 06:28 |
slackwarelife | chila: save all | 06:28 |
slackwarelife | chila: after you can configure /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini (use your prefer text editor) and add this line (or change this line): sendmail_path = "/usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i" (don't worry this line will use postfix). Reload apache2 "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload". Now if you haven't a sendmail path you can do this: "sudo ln -a /usr/sbin/postfix /usr/sbin/sendmail". Try. Now I must will go out. But you can | 06:33 |
chila | im still having problems after reloading everything | 06:51 |
chila | can anyone help | 07:02 |
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chila_ | I can send mail but I cant recieve mail | 07:30 |
chila_ | I am using postfix | 07:31 |
chila_ | and I cant log into UEBimiau | 07:31 |
PureEvilGeek | is any one using zimbra on there ubuntu server that could see how easily it intergrates? | 07:35 |
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PureEvilGeek | is any one running zimbra on ubuntu server 7.04? | 08:11 |
ivoks | hi | 08:12 |
ivoks | PureEvilGeek: i've set it up once, but on 6.06 | 08:12 |
PureEvilGeek | ivoks: hum. on there site it says it supports 6.x but i'm setting up a 7.x server and was just wondering if my attempt was going to be useless. | 08:13 |
PureEvilGeek | we will see i guess:) | 08:13 |
ivoks | i would recommend 6.06 | 08:14 |
PureEvilGeek | ivoks: did you like it? i'm just looking for something to replace my desktop mail client so I can access multiple e-mail accounts on different systems | 08:14 |
ivoks | since it is long term supported version | 08:14 |
PureEvilGeek | why is that? | 08:14 |
PureEvilGeek | no features in 7.04 that are worth looking into? | 08:14 |
ivoks | zimbra is not desktop mail client replacement | 08:15 |
ivoks | it's a service | 08:15 |
ivoks | it does have web client, but it's a service | 08:15 |
PureEvilGeek | hum i'm getting it for its web client | 08:15 |
ivoks | zimbra is email server | 08:16 |
ivoks | not a client | 08:16 |
ivoks | when you install it, you get smtp/imap/pop/ldap/web services | 08:16 |
PureEvilGeek | right | 08:17 |
PureEvilGeek | but from what I saw of the demo I could setup the web client to access multiple pop accounts on other locations. is this wrong? | 08:17 |
ivoks | it's meant for people from other computers to connect to it, and share contacts... | 08:17 |
PureEvilGeek | ivoks: ok if i wanted a web based client server (basicly outlook express / evolution but web based) what would I want to get? | 08:18 |
ivoks | uff... | 08:18 |
PureEvilGeek | uff? | 08:18 |
ivoks | webmail is a service that ISPs provide | 08:18 |
ivoks | having webmail on local computer is possible, but... i never seen antone using it on local computer :) | 08:19 |
PureEvilGeek | i'm not looking to use it on the local computer (not the server end of it at least). i'm looking to use it on my server | 08:19 |
ivoks | try squirrelmail | 08:20 |
PureEvilGeek | to access multiple pop accounts. i'm not looking for an e-mail account with webmial i'm looking for webmail for my email accounts | 08:20 |
ivoks | squirrelmail is a program | 08:21 |
ivoks | webmail program | 08:22 |
PureEvilGeek | isn't squirrelmail just a smtp/imap/pop server with a webmail interface? | 08:23 |
ivoks | it's not a server, it's web application | 08:23 |
ivoks | you are looking for 'web evolution/outlook'? | 08:24 |
PureEvilGeek | basicly | 08:25 |
PureEvilGeek | after i get ubuntu server on my vm i'll download the package and check it out | 08:26 |
ivoks | i just saw... squirrelmail doesn't support multiple imap servers | 08:27 |
PureEvilGeek | i'm pretty sure zimbra will do what i want | 08:27 |
PureEvilGeek | since while I was on the demo it had specificly the option to do what iw ant | 08:27 |
PureEvilGeek | unless i miss read it | 08:28 |
ivoks | ok, go with zimbra... | 08:28 |
ivoks | but that's like taking a 3.5t truck for couple of bricks | 08:28 |
PureEvilGeek | yeah i realize that | 08:29 |
PureEvilGeek | but since i don't have to pay for the gas... | 08:29 |
PureEvilGeek | i'll be trying both out | 08:30 |
ivoks | will you do anything else on that server? | 08:30 |
PureEvilGeek | on the zimba server or the system itself? | 08:31 |
ivoks | IIRC, zimbra installs it's own packages, making system almost unusable for any other business :/ | 08:31 |
PureEvilGeek | I can set up a system for just the mail app if i need to. have plenty of them around to do so | 08:31 |
ivoks | ok :) | 08:32 |
PureEvilGeek | Wish i could find a squirrelmail demo to try it out to see what it has | 08:32 |
PureEvilGeek | I can also work inside a VM | 08:32 |
ivoks | it's a webmail client | 08:33 |
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nox-Hand | Hiya! | 09:04 |
nox-Hand | Where do I change the message printed at login on my server? | 09:04 |
ivoks | /etc/motd | 09:06 |
nox-Hand | Awesome, thanks ivoks :) | 09:07 |
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KennyTheGeek | Do i need x to do x forwarding through ssh | 09:08 |
coNP | I don't think so | 09:08 |
KennyTheGeek | my thought aswell... just a confused server then | 09:09 |
ivoks | you don't | 09:09 |
ivoks | you need X libs | 09:09 |
coNP | actually you might need some X programs to make this whole issue useful | 09:09 |
coNP | unless it is a third machine between the X server and X clients | 09:10 |
ivoks | you don't need started X, but you need xlibs and progs | 09:10 |
KennyTheGeek | my friend got a thin client he uses as server... the storage device is a memstick, so he don't have ressources for X.org | 09:11 |
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teknoboi | hey i was wondering if someone might be able to help me out...in the process of me trying to install ravencore, it somehow created a folder with root that i cant delete or change permissions to | 10:25 |
teknoboi | and i need to delete it so i can use alien to create the debian file to install | 10:26 |
teknoboi | anyone around? | 10:28 |
nealmcb | teknoboi: howdy - what folder? | 10:30 |
teknoboi | its on my desktop...the ravencore folder (which is the software im trying to install) | 10:30 |
nealmcb | sudo rm -f /the/folder | 10:30 |
teknoboi | its telling me access is denied | 10:31 |
teknoboi | it was created by the root account | 10:31 |
nealmcb | ls -ld folder ==? | 10:31 |
teknoboi | ? | 10:31 |
nealmcb | what does "ls -ld folder" say? | 10:31 |
teknoboi | drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 2007-06-24 12:45 ravencore-0.3.2 | 10:32 |
nealmcb | is there anything in it? | 10:33 |
teknoboi | yes | 10:33 |
nealmcb | sudo rm -fr ravencore-0.3.2 | 10:33 |
nealmcb | the "r" deletes the things inside also | 10:34 |
nealmcb | recursively - use with care! | 10:34 |
teknoboi | and i have no rights to those files and folders either | 10:34 |
nealmcb | the "sudo" runs it as root | 10:34 |
teknoboi | omg it worked | 10:35 |
teknoboi | i could kiss you | 10:35 |
nealmcb | :-) | 10:35 |
teknoboi | ive spent two hours on this damned thing lol | 10:35 |
nealmcb | just be careful with sudo :-) | 10:35 |
teknoboi | why is that | 10:35 |
nealmcb | you can really foul the system up by using the admin powers of sudo | 10:35 |
teknoboi | yeah | 10:36 |
teknoboi | understood | 10:36 |
teknoboi | so i have another question | 10:36 |
nealmcb | but a directory in your desktop like that when you want to delete the package anyway.... seems fine. but I | 10:36 |
teknoboi | any suggestions as far as webhosting administration software that you might recommend for ubuntu server? | 10:37 |
nealmcb | ...i'm curious and should probably ask more about what the problem with ravencore was in the first place, and what it does :-) | 10:37 |
teknoboi | ravencore is an open source web hosting administration tool used to administer web servers or server stacks | 10:37 |
nealmcb | I've played with several over the years but am not up-to-speed | 10:37 |
teknoboi | i gave webmin a shot and hate it | 10:37 |
nealmcb | because? | 10:37 |
teknoboi | too complex and would take weeks to train people on how to use and set up new accounts | 10:38 |
ivoks | ispconfig | 10:38 |
teknoboi | ispconfig? | 10:39 |
teknoboi | the problem is (with ravencore) that i wasnt sure how to install rpm packages until a friend of mine suggested using alien | 10:39 |
teknoboi | so im going to make a new attempt at installing it | 10:39 |
PureEvilGeek | is there a plcae I could get an already setup vmware image of ubuntu server? | 10:40 |
teknoboi | im new to the whole linux bit and its complicated lol | 10:41 |
nealmcb | http://www.ispconfig.org/ is what ivoks mentioned | 10:42 |
teknoboi | okay | 10:42 |
PureEvilGeek | linux is complicated, wanting a web based e-mail client is like trying to solve world hunger | 10:42 |
nealmcb | last I heard it wasn't a package, and it pulls in its own versions of apache, php, spamassassin, etc | 10:42 |
teknoboi | so after i use alien to create the folder what am i supposed to do next | 10:42 |
ivoks | PureEvilGeek: ? | 10:42 |
ivoks | welll | 10:43 |
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ivoks | ispconfig uses apache & php for administration | 10:43 |
nealmcb | so ravencore isn't packaged for ubuntu? you have an rpm? | 10:43 |
PureEvilGeek | lol ubuntu server won't install on my vmware | 10:43 |
teknoboi | correct neal | 10:43 |
ivoks | but it uses distribution's apache for clients | 10:43 |
teknoboi | i also have the source package if i nedd it | 10:43 |
nealmcb | that would make it all more complicated, especially for upgrades. hmmmm | 10:44 |
teknoboi | the source package would? | 10:44 |
ivoks | nealmcb: ispconfig? | 10:44 |
nealmcb | i'm saying that using ravencore via rpm would be complicate4d | 10:44 |
ivoks | right | 10:44 |
dendrobates | you'd be better off downloading the ravencore tarball and following the instructions. | 10:45 |
ivoks | i think ispconfig is best solution | 10:45 |
teknoboi | i have the tarball | 10:45 |
dendrobates | http://www.ravencore.com/installguide.php | 10:45 |
teknoboi | i have that | 10:45 |
dendrobates | should work fine in ubuntu. | 10:45 |
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teknoboi | okay ill give this a shot brb | 10:46 |
dendrobates | so what is all the talk about rpm then? | 10:46 |
teknoboi | i tried to install the rpm twice and it didnt work so thats what i was asking | 10:46 |
dendrobates | is this a popular package? should we package it in ubuntu? | 10:47 |
nealmcb | teknoboi: ubuntu developers are also working on making server admin easier in future releases. anyone know the latest status? My launchpad page points to a bunch of different specs on the issue :-) | 10:47 |
dendrobates | I'm on the server team. | 10:47 |
ivoks | dendrobates: ispconfig is much better solution | 10:48 |
dendrobates | I'll take a look at them. thanks. | 10:48 |
teknoboi | have u tried ravencore, ivoks? | 10:48 |
ivoks | i just took a look at online demo | 10:49 |
teknoboi | okay so im lost in this already | 10:49 |
teknoboi | when i run the tar command, it extracts the package into a folder and where to go in that has confused me | 10:50 |
teknoboi | after* | 10:50 |
teknoboi | ooo wait i missed a step | 10:51 |
ivoks | 'night all | 10:51 |
teknoboi | make: *** No rule to make target `build'. Stop. | 10:52 |
teknoboi | make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. | 10:52 |
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teknoboi | ? :( | 10:52 |
nealmcb | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam | 10:52 |
nealmcb | teknoboi: if you haven't built this sort of software from source before, there will be a bigger learning curve than webmin or ispconfig, I'm guessing | 10:53 |
teknoboi | ive never built any software from source before | 10:54 |
teknoboi | im new to linux remember | 10:54 |
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nealmcb | perhaps if you talked a bit more about exactly what you want to do and what you'll use it for we can help better | 10:55 |
teknoboi | im going to be using ravencore to administer my webserver platform and lamp installation | 10:55 |
teknoboi | helping to streamline user setup for customer service associates | 10:56 |
teknoboi | i originally went with windows advanced server platform but it was even more complicated that this as far as setup | 10:56 |
nealmcb | what sorts of apps? small business? | 10:56 |
teknoboi | im starting a small hosting company | 10:56 |
nealmcb | I've also heard good things about ispconfig, but haven't tried it | 10:57 |
teknoboi | well im willing to give it a shot if its easier to install than ravencore | 10:57 |
teknoboi | lol | 10:57 |
nealmcb | Given your goals, I'd guess that long-term support and easy upgrades are more important than the learning curve of the initial install.... | 10:59 |
teknoboi | hey, if learning is what it will require to achieve an easy-to-use, powerful platform from which i can adminster my server than so be it...ill need to learn sometime | 11:00 |
nealmcb | teknoboi: right on | 11:05 |
teknoboi | nealmcb: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu704_p7 <<< can u look over that and tell me how it looks...is it for real or is it crap | 11:12 |
PureEvilGeek | doesn't the server version of ubuntu have a GUI to it out of the box? | 11:14 |
teknoboi | i had to install gnome | 11:14 |
PureEvilGeek | that... i had oddly not expected | 11:16 |
teknoboi | ah | 11:17 |
=== PureEvilGeek just removes it from the vm and installs bsd since he already knows how that works | ||
nealmcb | PureEvilGeek: there are a lot of good reasons to not have the extra bulk and security issues of running x/gnome/etc on a server. that's one reason folks like linux for servers over windows | 11:27 |
shawarma | PureEvilGeek: No, we don't have any gui on our servers. | 11:27 |
shawarma | PureEvilGeek: Why would we? | 11:27 |
nealmcb | and you can manage a server via a gui using the web of course | 11:27 |
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