=== neozen [n=neozen@odtfm.ondecktech.com] has joined #xubuntu === j1mc [n=jim@odtfm.ondecktech.com] has joined #xubuntu === totalwormage [n=worm@flits102-83.flits.rug.nl] has joined #xubuntu === TaJMoX [n=TaJMoX@unaffiliated/tajmox] has joined #xubuntu [12:50] I'd like my bottom panel to be 100% transparrent, how do I do this ? [12:51] TaJMoX: right-click it, select customize panel, set the transparency to 100% === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.221.7.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:51] TaJMoX: but why would you like to have invisible panel? [12:51] thesheep xfce [12:52] the only thing under appearance is Size [12:52] TaJMoX: you are trying to make yourself memorize where the icons are better? [12:52] TaJMoX: you need to have compositor enabled [12:52] thesheep i want to have the icons visible only... [12:52] TaJMoX: in settings->window manager tweaks->compositor [12:53] oh fglrx doesnt do composites...sigh [12:53] TaJMoX: you can't do that with xfce panel [12:53] TaJMoX: the iocns will be transparent too [12:53] TaJMoX: that's a horse of a different color === jtg23_ [n=jtzl@71-35-98-106.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:53] I can only use fglrx with my vid card, not ati or radeon driver === vidd [n=vidd@static-72-86-135-236.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:53] has anyone seen any repos for xfce 4.4.1? [12:53] R[a] ndom: gutsy === neozen ponders which dock can do that...... [12:53] ? [12:53] I know there is one [12:53] that a repo? [12:53] neozen - gdesklets [12:53] R[a] ndom: that's feisty+1 [12:53] lol... yeah... that's it [12:54] oh, I don't want that [12:54] !gutsy | R[a] ndom [12:54] R[a] ndom: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1 [12:54] or can I use gusty repo just for that [12:54] also adesklets and superkaramba have non-composite docks [12:54] R[a] ndom: it will probably pull in some dependencies [12:54] yeah, that's fine [12:54] I just need to fix this memory leak [12:54] TaJMoX: buy a mac ;) [12:54] xfdesktop is taking a gig of ram [12:55] thesheep the hardware is too expencive. I can get a twice as powerful PC for the price of a good mac [12:55] TaJMoX: I've seen the gnome people fake transparency by setting the same image for the panel as for the background [12:55] thesheep - yes but im in xfce...can i use gnome panel? [12:55] TaJMoX: you could in theory do the same for xfce with a gtk theme, but don't ask me how [12:55] I have tried using a gtk theme... [12:55] TaJMoX: ah, yes, you can use the gnome panel too, of course [12:56] TaJMoX: it will be a little slower, but why not [12:56] thesheep - cool that fixed it thanks =] [12:56] yeah its slow =\ [12:57] I'd say you're running with fashion too much ;) [12:57] R[a] ndom, a gig of ram??? you SURE its the desktop sucking up the resourses? [12:57] heh you should see my beryl user... full on shiny customization bling bling [12:57] ok, I exagerated, but yeah, its usage is pretty high [12:58] TaJMoX: and you only log in to it when guests come? [12:58] r[a] ndom how much of that is cache? [12:58] tell me the command you want the output of [12:58] thesheep yeah its the guest user account ... this xfce is my minimal account, but still want the transparent panel [12:58] i think im gonna switch back to xfce4-panel, i dont really need the transparency [12:59] TaJMoX: it's not worth it imho :) [12:59] TaJMoX: you still cannot use that space for anything else, icons would obscure your command line [12:59] it's an auto-hiding panel anyways just for launching apps [01:00] it just looks nicer when icons pop up instead of a whole clunky bar [01:00] or if i could set a background image, that would be really nice [01:00] so which repos do I need to change to gutsy to get all the xfce stuff, anyone know off the top of their head? [01:01] r[a] ndom type free and paste [01:01] Mem: 1035944 1022656 13288 0 1980 154312 [01:01] 154 cache that would be [01:01] R[a] ndom: main [01:01] kkthx [01:01] R[a] ndom: bear in mind it's still experimental === totalwormage [n=worm@flits102-83.flits.rug.nl] has joined #xubuntu [01:02] gutsy is, but xfce 4.4.1 isnt [01:02] and thats all I'll upgrade [01:02] totalwormage you play W:A ? [01:02] I read the changelog, and they fixed this memory leak [01:02] R[a] ndom: xfce 4.4.1 in gutsy is :) [01:02] or, a memory leak that is [01:02] oh I see [01:02] I didnt know the xubuntu guys changed it [01:02] R[a] ndom: distribution is stable/unstable as a whole, you can have an unstable distro with all stable packages [01:03] R[a] ndom: because they interact [01:03] so any chance of me undoing this if it fails? [01:03] Ive never had downgrading work [01:03] R[a] ndom: neither me, I wouldn't even know where to start [01:03] I tried once, and ended up reinstalling [01:04] ah well, if it breaks, then I finally ditch ubuntu ;) [01:04] R[a] ndom: probably not worth it [01:04] R[a] ndom: I once needed a fresh patch fro xfwm4, I just downloaded and compiled it, then replaced the binary on my system [01:05] should I do the whole xubuntu-desktop metapackage? [01:05] as xfce4 didnt pull anything else down with it [01:05] but it was the same version +/- the patch [01:05] R[a] ndom: gaim is replaced with pidgin [01:05] what? [01:05] R[a] ndom: and all programs are replaced with newer versions [01:06] oh I see what youre saying [01:06] so no [01:06] R[a] ndom: so I'd only install xfdesktop [01:06] and it will pull most of xfce with it [01:06] ah. thats the metapackage I wanted [01:06] oh I See [01:06] (and probably also whole gtk and all apps that use gtk) [01:06] r[a] ndom you can get the latest xfce from here http://pkg-xfce.alioth.debian.org/ [01:06] too late :) [01:06] arg [01:06] h === jonaz [n=xpc@BAE9645.bae.pppool.de] has joined #xubuntu [01:15] ola :) [01:16] i try to play a dvd, which is (according to kaffeine) 'encrypted or faulty'. then i tried to install libdecss, but its not available [01:17] so what can i do else? [01:19] libdvdcss something [01:19] forgot exact name === totalwormage [n=worm@flits102-83.flits.rug.nl] has joined #xubuntu [01:21] yeah i meant that, sorry [01:21] jonaz, you can get the package on my ownoads page: [01:21] i have a translated version of ubunutu, it says something like "no installation candidate for libdvdcss" [01:21] http://www.vidd.us/downloads [01:21] but i can find it with apt-cache search [01:22] i got a 64bit system, vidd :/ === Catoptromancy [n=cat@blk-7-225-55.eastlink.ca] has joined #xubuntu [01:23] or is that not a problem, vidd ? [01:24] so far as i know...its not a problem.... [01:24] but then...my 64bit machine has an intel chip, and not amd [01:24] so has mine [01:25] then you did not have to use the 64bit install? [01:25] okay, i thought i that i have to install only 64bit packets on a 64bit system [01:26] nope....the opposite is true.... [01:26] only 32 bit (and less) apps on a 32 bit system [01:27] when i do dpkg -i libblabla, it says "i386 package does not fit 64bit system" and denies an installation [01:28] then... get a 64bit one [01:28] that's why i am here Jester45, it does not work [01:28] as i wrote before [01:29] jonaz, i have no idea what libblabla is..... === R[a] ndom [n=random@bas9-toronto01-1242393048.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [01:29] your libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:31] hrm..... [01:31] vidd, can you get a 64ibt? === vidd goes off to do some digging! [01:35] jonaz, can you add a line to your repos? [01:35] sure :) [01:36] deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ [version] free non-free [01:36] replace [version] with edgy, fiesty, dapper, etc [01:37] supposidly its there [01:38] Konnte http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages.gz nicht holen 404 Not Found [IP: 81.169.138.125 80] [01:38] *hngl* :) [01:39] jonaz, NO!!!! add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list [01:39] yeah i did [01:39] the error came after apt-get update === neozen [n=neozen@odtfm.ondecktech.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:40] hrm [01:40] cuzz im looking at it online right now.... === neozen pokes vidd with a stick.... [01:40] huh [01:40] hey there you... have any luck getting that card to work w/o ndiswrapper? [01:41] neozen, yeah....there was a button on it.... [01:42] ........................ [01:42] my daughter touched it and BANG!internet access [01:42] you're kidding [01:42] i wish [01:42] who says we kids can't do useful stuff! [01:42] jonaz, take the non-free out [01:42] you only need the free anyway [01:43] the same [01:43] error [01:43] neozen, she is going to be a techno-geek like her old man [01:43] jonaz, do you have internet? [01:43] no, you? [01:44] .... [01:44] i'm not stupid, just unexperienced [01:44] jonaz, you need internet access in order to update apt === Chikubu [n=Chikubu@205.163.99.229] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@blk-7-225-55.eastlink.ca] has joined #xubuntu [01:45] that is why you are getting the error..... [01:45] vidd: girl after my own heart [01:45] grrr., i know, you see the _not_ before the stupid? [01:45] let me see if i can get my fingers on the .deb for ya [01:45] if i had no internet i would not be able to chat with you:) [01:46] jonaz, alot of ppl chat on an internet machine and work on an offline machine [01:46] woule be cool, but i cannot understand why it says there's a 404 [01:47] are you outside the USA? [01:47] yes [01:47] where? [01:47] berlin/germany [01:48] hrm...i cant see THEM blacklisting the site.... [01:48] follow these instructions: [01:48] http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository-old.php [01:49] i may have mistyped something earlier [01:49] =/ === vidd suffers from twisted finger AND fat finger syndromes! [01:50] hmmm yeah, but no problem :) we forgot the slash between feisty/nonfree [01:51] sorry [01:51] no problem, i'm thankful for your help. now let's see if it works [01:52] ha! [01:52] awesome [01:52] thank you so much [01:52] why is this not an official repo [01:53] hah cool [01:53] works also for vlc! great [01:55] cuzz its got paten issues in the us? [01:55] idk [01:55] oh :( [01:55] hey is there a non nsidwrapper method of getting access on my WMP54G linssys card?' [01:56] jtg23_, bcm43xx chipset? [01:56] air force 1 [01:56] ya [01:56] absolutely [01:57] i'll rejoin later - have to plug-in another hdd. thanks so far! bye [01:57] what it be? [01:57] did you already install ndiswrapper? [01:57] i'm befuddled [01:57] no [01:57] i don't want it [01:57] ah...good [01:57] do you have lan internet access? [01:58] unfortunately not, this gateway solo 9300 taht cost $3000+ 8 years ago has only an internal modem and i lack a pcmcia card but i have a usb drive so i'm doing that method [01:58] oh...foo === vidd HATES doing it this way! [01:59] ok...lets get down to getting it done [01:59] yeah, i hear ya [01:59] ok, break it down [02:00] you will need : bcm43xx-fwcutter [02:00] and the firmware === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-174-186.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:00] let me see if i have both on my downloads site already === vidd has the bcm43xx-fwcutter on his downloads site: http://www.vidd.us/downloads [02:01] are these the instructions? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 [02:02] k i got bcm43xx-fwcutter from you [02:02] i use the official guide..... [02:02] where can i find that? === vidd is getting the firmware now [02:03] oh man that funny.mov is raunchy! [02:03] lol @ that! [02:03] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty [02:04] oh awesome, thx! [02:05] jtg23_, you can thank Jester45 for that movie [02:05] i'm not sure if it warrants thanks per se ;) [02:06] here i'll return my gratitude to the commnity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhIJOVD8hwY [02:06] the firmware is now on my downloads page === Eagle-101 is now known as eagle_101 [02:07] ok cool, thx [02:07] called? [02:09] vidd is rappelz any good and does it run in wine? [02:10] its awesome...and no..not yet [02:11] jtg23_, wl_apsta.o [02:11] thx [02:11] looks like a free version of Lineage2 [02:12] jtg23_, once you download and transfer both files, you want to install the .deb, make note of where you put the .o and run: sudo bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware/`uname -r` [02:13] TaJMoX, idk....i got it to test with wine for a friend...he dual boots now only because of that game [02:14] if you get it to work in wine...let me know how! he wants to fire M$ almost as bad as I did! [02:14] arrite will get going after my shower thx for the links and the nec files vidd [02:14] i'll be back if it doesn't work [02:14] ; [02:14] ) [02:15] vidd I had to stop playing those free 3D mmorpg's, there are so many out there and hardly any work in wine. I get a lot more done without playing them anyways [02:15] I'd rather fire M$ and stupid games, than run M$OS [02:16] TaJMoX, i hear ya! [02:17] but you know how these kids are these days [02:18] If we had games like this when I was a kid, I'd be in trouble === vidd hasnt been a kid for 20 years and still is in trouble ;) [02:19] heh.. what games do you play ? === Jester45 's GPA dropped when WoW came out :) [02:19] einstien, glob2 and runescape [02:20] runescpae is really ungly [02:20] runescape? lol [02:20] hey...it may be ugly...but i like it [02:21] i play games that are beautifully rendered [02:21] like nethack === vidd likes to play games...period [02:22] and with my POS monitor, it dont matter HOW awesome the game SHOULD look.... [02:22] =] [02:23] i hate on runescape how you have to take care of your player... the game is more like the sims when you have to do that [02:23] what are you talking about? "take care of your player"? [02:24] Jester45: dude, play nethack, after that, you wont think runescape makes you take care of your player [02:24] i mean, in nethack and various other roguelike games, you can frigggin die of starvation [02:25] ...i die like that all the time, it seems that the dungeons of doom dont allow for anorexia [02:26] lol GrueTamer [02:26] i like how you always look the same no matter what you are [02:26] so now, ive come to love the little @ symbol i see runnin around === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-174-186.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === ShiFTKey [n=fake@CPE004010100002-CM014390042162.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:41] you can die from eating too === TaJMoX chokes on a newt corpse === cellofellow [n=josh@69-71-170-119.mammothnetworks.com] has joined #xubuntu === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-174-186.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:34] how do you cnvert kilobits into kilobytes? [03:35] /8 === Greg is now known as cheeseboy [03:35] thats it? [03:35] so i was right [03:35] thats what i do [03:44] Jester45: depends on what you're doing [03:44] Jester45: if it's a file transfer, then the protocol usually has some additional overhead [03:44] im setting torrentflux's max upload speed and vidd wanted it to be 1/2 a meg [03:44] Jester45: then again, there is some compression [03:44] Jester45: so it doesn't translate directly [03:45] how i set opera as my defauld browser? === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.219.238.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:45] cheeseboy: settings->preferred applications [03:45] cheeseboy: go to, yeah [03:45] i dont care on what its doing with the transfer speed just what % of the total of the line === OGDA is now known as BFTD [03:46] TheSheep, wheres settings? [03:46] Applications -> Settings [03:46] the main system menu [03:47] oh thnx [03:48] TheSheep: can you help me set up a sudoers file so that user 'josh' can access everything except `passwd` without needing a password? [03:50] "It is generally not effective to "subtract" commands from ALL using the ! operator. A user can trivially circumvent this by copying the desired command to a different name and then executing that." [03:50] just found that [03:51] cellofellow: it would be easier to allow a limited set of commands [03:51] cellofellow: like apt-get, dpkg, vim [03:52] ok [03:52] how? [03:55] cellofellow ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/apt-get [03:55] etc. [03:55] ok [03:55] you can list them with commas [03:55] cellofellow ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/apt-get,/usr/bin/dpkg [03:55] and I can use an alias [03:55] etc. [03:55] yes === j1mc [n=jim@odtfm.ondecktech.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:56] man sudoers has some examples [03:56] I know, but that's a huge manpage === jtg23 [n=jtzl@65-102-138-62.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:56] skim :) [03:57] skim = hold the down arrow === neozen [n=neozen@odtfm.ondecktech.com] has joined #xubuntu === Chikubu [n=Chikubu@205.163.99.181] has joined #xubuntu === dsnaike [n=dsnaike@208.100.228.108] has joined #xubuntu === dan40 [n=chatzill@c-68-62-217-89.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:20] TheSheep: how do I remove myself from the admin group? [04:20] cellofellow: settings->users and groups [04:20] cellofellow: or edit /etc/group [04:21] ok [04:23] Whats a small bittorrent client to use. I have been using Azureus but its kind of a memory hog [04:25] um, I would suggest deluge-torrent but I can't find it in the repos (it used to be there) or an ubuntu package on the web. [04:27] thanks cello [04:27] is it there somewhere? [04:34] TheSheep: can I set a password that isn't my users password for sudo? Like my users password I don't know, but I want to know my sudo password, so they need to be different. [04:34] cellofellow: no idea, probably yes [04:35] cellofellow: I think you can have group passwords [04:35] hmmm [04:35] I just figured out if I run a program that isn't in the NOPASSWD list, it prompts for the password. really slick. === biouser [n=biouser@75.117.5.173] has joined #xubuntu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #xubuntu === Ghostvirus [n=Ghostvir@dialup-4.233.200.86.Dial1.Manchester1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:51] my workspaces went away [04:51] anyone know how to get them back? [04:53] you mean the workspace pager? [04:54] biouser: right click the panel, and click Add Items, and add the Pager. [04:55] cellofellow, excellent [04:55] cellofellow, spot on [04:55] :) === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.219.238.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === Ghostvirus [n=Ghostvir@dialup-4.233.200.86.Dial1.Manchester1.Level3.net] has left #xubuntu [] === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #xubuntu === claudiohfg [n=claudio@189.25.48.62] has joined #xubuntu [05:13] hi all. [05:13] I want to install xfce4 in my system. how do I do this without installing the whole xubuntu stuff? [05:14] just install xfce4 [05:14] how about the plugins? wouldn't I be missing something? [05:15] a few. You'll have to hunt and peck, there isn't one meta-package. [05:15] ok, thanks! [05:17] claudiohfg: I think Debian has a meta-package though. Look at what it depends on at packages.debian.org [05:17] don't use it though, just look at it [05:17] thanks! I'll see it. [05:18] I'm now filtering apt-get install xubuntu-desktop to see what to keep out === T` [n=total@pdpc/supporter/student/T] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === Chikubu [n=Chikubu@205.163.99.101] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-20-191.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === falseadress [n=fl@S010600032f390b7f.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #xubuntu === falseadress [n=fl@S010600032f390b7f.vc.shawcable.net] has left #xubuntu [] === yokobr [n=jefferso@20158229144.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #xubuntu [06:07] hi guyes [06:07] my desktop desapeared [06:08] =/ [06:09] please, i need it back [06:12] yokobr: press alt+f2 and then type 'xfdesktop' === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.219.238.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === tripppy [n=tripppy@c220-237-80-19.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === yokobr [n=jefferso@20158229144.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #xubuntu [] === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === skarevoluti [n=manuel@cable200-116-60-93.epm.net.co] has joined #xubuntu [07:26] hello [07:26] I have a big problem! [07:26] can anybody help me? [07:27] I use xubuntu desktop [07:27] and my pannels dissapear... === jtg23_ [n=jtzl@70-56-74-176.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:30] :-$ === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu [07:37] when i was using win98 on this pc, the video card would go into higher resolution, i installed the latest driver for the card but dont see the option to go to higher res, its an older ati card, do i need to reboot? [07:37] or might it not support the higher res? === wheels3572 [n=wheels@dsl-67-158-169-239.fairpoint.net] has joined #xubuntu === skarevoluti [n=manuel@cable200-116-60-93.epm.net.co] has left #xubuntu [] === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-174-186.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === Chikubu [n=Chikubu@205.163.99.101] has joined #xubuntu === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #xubuntu [08:23] what hoops would i have to jump thru to get a package for red hat to run on xubuntu? === davewilhelm [n=dave@milligan.bluefir.org] has joined #xubuntu [08:27] /tim === jtg23 [n=jtzl@65-101-132-138.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:32] Chikubu, not that bad, sometimes [08:32] !alien [08:32] RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous) === kaiserdave [n=dave@milligan.bluefir.org] has joined #xubuntu === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === kaiserdave [n=dave@milligan.bluefir.org] has left #xubuntu [] === c42x [n=wayne@p549CD7E6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === davewilhelm [n=dave@milligan.bluefir.org] has joined #xubuntu === davewilhelm [n=dave@milligan.bluefir.org] has left #xubuntu [] === null___ [n=null@cpe-24-208-189-7.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:16] What do I apt-get to switch from Gnome to Xfce on a Ubuntu install? [09:16] Was it xfce-desktop-environment? === maxamillion [n=adam@166.128.126.143] has joined #xubuntu [09:18] xubuntu-desktop === dev1 [n=ilyas@213.179.235.139] has joined #xubuntu === Chikubu [n=Chikubu@205.163.99.40] has joined #xubuntu [09:24] i have a problem removing a package, when i do apt-get install asla-utils, it says current version installed, but if i do apt-get remove asla-utils it says no pacakge found, i want to be able to run alsa-utils, ideas? [09:25] asla-utils? [09:25] there's no such package. [09:26] alsa-utils exists, however. [09:26] is there a way to force reinstall [09:26] and crimsun would know with his uber alsa-code-foo ;) [09:27] sudo dpkg -P --force-depends alsa-utils && sudo apt-get -f install [09:29] what does 32 not upgraded allude to? [09:30] Chikubu: huh? [09:30] probably something holding them back. === wayne42_ [n=wayne@p549CFD5F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:30] just `sudo apt-get install alsa-utils` [09:30] alsa-utils is already the newest version. [09:30] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 32 not upgraded. [09:30] Chikubu: try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" === wayne42_ is now known as c42_ [09:31] Chikubu: its probably because there is a new kernel upgrade and packages that depend on that kernel, you have to pass the 'dist-upgrade' command to get kernel image upgrades [09:31] oh crap its 90 megs [09:31] ok ill let that run tonight [09:31] Chikubu: k === x_dica [i=acid_x@60-240-43-214.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === x_dica is now known as acid_x === ferronica [n=tushar@59.176.82.245] has joined #xubuntu [10:06] hi al [10:06] can i use xubuntu in dektop computers ??? [10:14] ferronica: yes [10:15] ferronica: you can use it on a wide array of computers of which desktops would fit categorically === acid_x [i=acid_x@60-240-43-214.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === SamArthurAllen [n=allensaa@C-59-100-79-22.bri.connect.net.au] has joined #xubuntu [10:32] hiho [10:32] hiho maxamillion === SamArthurAllen [n=allensaa@C-59-100-79-22.bri.connect.net.au] has left #xubuntu [] [10:33] hiya hyper_ch [10:33] whoa! linux.com got a face lift [10:34] maxamillion: it did? ^^ [10:35] maxamillion: you know php? [10:35] hyper_ch: yeah ... atleast since like 3 days ago since i saw it last [10:35] hyper_ch: minimal amounts of php [10:35] maxamillion: ok ;) === p1ng_ [n=p1ng@p54A9DCF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:36] I need some advanced skills [10:36] pong === p1ng [n=p1ng@p54A9DCF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:37] hyper_ch: yeah, i wouldn't be your guy ... its something i am looking forward to learning eventually but i haven't needed to learn it just yet [10:37] maxamillion: based on snoopy I am trying to create a bot for an online game ^^ [10:38] hyper_ch: write it in python ;) [10:38] maxamillion: I dunno pythong [10:38] snoopy is a nice php class that emulates a webbrowser :) [10:39] maxamillion: the game is browser based ^^ [10:39] in 2 1/2h the bred is ready ;) === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust150.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu [10:40] btw, did you hear about gmail in Germany? Google threatens to close gmail germany [10:40] hyper_ch: no i didn't ... what happened? [10:41] Germany is about to pass a law that would free email providers require to be able to disclose the identity of the email users to the legal services and goole stands up to it [10:42] saying that the guaranteed privacy is one of the main reasons people use gmail [10:42] good show google! [10:43] maxamillion: for once ;) hasn't been google lately a target of critics regarding user data collections and stuff? [10:44] i think so [10:45] oh well === p1ng_ [n=p1ng@p54A9CE96.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:46] meh, long live google! [10:47] ^^ === x_dica [i=acid_x@60-240-43-214.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === acid_x [i=acid_x@60-240-43-214.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5F05E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === Arkh [n=Arkh@213-156-55-142.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu === Dr`Maison [n=fred@62.147.164.174] has joined #xubuntu === elbing [n=elbing@13.Red-88-14-25.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === Arkh [n=Arkh@213-156-55-142.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu === archangelpetro [n=bleh@host213-160-108-174.dsl.vispa.com] has joined #xubuntu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #xubuntu === wheels3572 [n=wheels@dsl-67-158-169-239.fairpoint.net] has joined #xubuntu === p1ng [n=p1ng@p54A9CE96.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === homebrewcider [n=mal001@219-90-206-243.static.adam.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [02:33] I have Xubuntu 6.06 installed on another computer in the house (with no internet connection), can I upgrade with my cd of Xubuntu 7.04? [02:35] Can? Possibly. Sanely? Not so much. The tested upgrade path is through Edgy. [02:38] homebrewcider: the config files ten to get broken if you skip versions [02:38] things like udev and init [02:39] oh ok [02:42] how do I make my num lock be switched on automatically on boot please? [02:45] homebrewcider: there is an xkb option for it you can put in xorg.conf === rokra [n=christor@ANancy-153-1-16-148.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [02:47] is this the section? [02:47] Section "InputDevice" [02:47] Identifier "Generic Keyboard" [02:47]