| andrupal | ok... | 12:20 |
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| LaserJock | etank: ok, so are you basing it on Xubuntu? | 12:21 |
| etank | LaserJock: that is the idea | 12:22 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 12:22 |
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| LaserJock | do you have limited disk space? | 12:22 |
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| etank | LaserJock: we are thinking of doing a oem install of xubuntu on one machine and then ghosting it to the rest | 12:22 |
| etank | the drive space on some is a little limited | 12:23 |
| sbalneav | andrupal: ok | 12:23 |
| sbalneav | on your server tab: | 12:23 |
| etank | 10G or less i think | 12:23 |
| LaserJock | etank: I was just thinking becuase the Edubuntu Addon CD has XFCE4 on it | 12:23 |
| sbalneav | ldap Host/uri = localhost | 12:23 |
| sbalneav | Base DN is dc=example,dc=net | 12:24 |
| LaserJock | so you could do an edubuntu install with xfce4 | 12:24 |
| sbalneav | on the Details tab: | 12:24 |
| LaserJock | it would also have all the Gnome stuff, hence the disk space question | 12:24 |
| etank | LaserJock: where is this addon cd | 12:24 |
| sbalneav | BindDN is cn=admin,dc=example,dc=net | 12:24 |
| sbalneav | bind password = the password | 12:24 |
| LaserJock | etank: www.edubuntu.org/Download | 12:24 |
| sbalneav | bind type = Simple | 12:24 |
| sbalneav | search attribute = cd | 12:25 |
| andrupal | cd or cn? | 12:25 |
| sbalneav | Ask password on first connect should be clicked on | 12:25 |
| sbalneav | cn | 12:25 |
| sbalneav | CommonName | 12:25 |
| LaserJock | etank: Classroom Server Add-on CD | 12:25 |
| LaserJock | etank: it's just a CD with the educational stuff and xfce4 .debs | 12:26 |
| etank | LaserJock: so i can use that cd once i have xubuntu installed ? | 12:26 |
| etank | or use it to do the whole install | 12:26 |
| LaserJock | once you have *buntu installed | 12:26 |
| etank | sweet | 12:27 |
| LaserJock | you can add the CD as a repo source | 12:27 |
| andrupal | Ok. so this is what I've been trying...and searching for users with this access level yields nothing...is this normal | 12:27 |
| LaserJock | etank: if you pop the CD into a Ubuntu or Edubuntu install it pops up a little Add/Remove window | 12:27 |
| sbalneav | enable TLS should be off | 12:27 |
| LaserJock | etank: I'm really not sure if the add-on cd would be much better for you, but it does have the apps you want | 12:28 |
| etank | but it will be handy to have for later | 12:28 |
| etank | LaserJock: thanks for pointing it out | 12:28 |
| LaserJock | np | 12:29 |
| etank | and we want to be able to give something that allows the new owner to reinstall all of the apps that we placed on the box | 12:29 |
| sbalneav | andrupal: What happens if you go to browse? | 12:29 |
| andrupal | same deal...asls for password, then nothing | 12:29 |
| etank | so we can give them the xubuntu cd and the addon one as well and the will satisfy it | 12:29 |
| sbalneav | So, in the left hand pane, you see the localhost host, yes? | 12:31 |
| sbalneav | What exactly does the pop up box say? | 12:32 |
| andrupal | the "password required" popup? | 12:33 |
| sbalneav | yes | 12:33 |
| LaserJock | etank: you should test it out and see how well it works with xubuntu, but I think so | 12:34 |
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| andrupal | having trouble getting LDAP client authentication to work. Owing to help from this channel, I have LDAP server running and GUI authenticating so I can add users. I seem to be stuck setting up nsswitch.ldap and/or libnss-ldap.conf...the client still won't authenticate against the LDAP server | 03:44 |
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| Burgundavia | andrupal: welcome to pain | 04:17 |
| Burgundavia | have you seen that LDAPClient page? | 04:17 |
| andrupal_ | Yes...trying to follow...I do everything I see..naively...and it doesn't work...you're referring to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication? | 04:23 |
| andrupal_ | still here | 04:30 |
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| andrupal_ | just sent my client into an infinite loop with that ever-so-helpful example file | 04:34 |
| andrupal_ | How do I mount my hard drive from the livecd again? | 04:34 |
| Burgundavia | sudo mount /dev/blah /mountpoint | 04:39 |
| Burgundavia | oh, geez | 04:39 |
| Burgundavia | nope, taht isn't it | 04:39 |
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| jsgotangco | hey Burgundavia how's it going with your life | 04:44 |
| Burgundavia | life goes on | 04:45 |
| Burgundavia | better last week | 04:46 |
| sbalneav | Burgundavia: Something happen? | 04:47 |
| Burgundavia | sbalneav: quit my job | 04:48 |
| Burgundavia | dealing with depression | 04:48 |
| sbalneav | Sorry to hear that. | 04:48 |
| sbalneav | LaserJock: Xaos is giving me the 5cent fractal tour | 04:50 |
| Burgundavia | it appears to be a common affliction int he tech industry | 04:50 |
| sbalneav | I find not giving a darn about a lot of things helps immensely :) | 04:51 |
| jsgotangco | heh i just started my new work today if its any news | 04:51 |
| jsgotangco | and im working from home | 04:51 |
| sbalneav | jsgotangco: Cool! | 04:51 |
| sbalneav | Whatcha doin? | 04:51 |
| jsgotangco | Apache land stuff | 04:51 |
| jsgotangco | (Maven) | 04:51 |
| sbalneav | apache land stuff. Are we talking apache the web server or apache the North American First Nation? | 04:52 |
| jsgotangco | heh Apache Software Foundation project | 04:52 |
| jsgotangco | maven.apache.org | 04:53 |
| sbalneav | Oh, hehe. | 04:53 |
| sbalneav | When you said apache land stuff, we've got lots to do here in Canada with First Nations land claims :) | 04:53 |
| sbalneav | Confused me. | 04:53 |
| sbalneav | Well, I've never taken drugs, but this Xaos tutorial's about the next best thing :) | 04:54 |
| sbalneav | Freaky, man. | 04:54 |
| jsgotangco | first nations claim heh | 04:54 |
| jsgotangco | i'm mostly doing work in hadoop and solr though | 04:54 |
| jsgotangco | for the past few days | 04:54 |
| jsgotangco | we're also organising http://www.ossummit.com/ | 04:55 |
| sbalneav | I prefer to do most of my work in flabbengormer and schlutzbarb, but hey, to each his own :) | 04:55 |
| sbalneav | whoooaaaah dude, Julia set's fab, man. | 04:57 |
| jsgotangco | haha | 04:57 |
| jsgotangco | you trippin on fractals dude | 04:58 |
| sbalneav | "I can see eternity" | 04:58 |
| sbalneav | If you showed this in an imax to a bunch hippies, it'd be flashback city. | 04:59 |
| jsgotangco | heh yeah | 05:00 |
| sbalneav | Well, that was trippy | 05:01 |
| sbalneav | LaserJock: Xaos not only works, it's hippy-trippy-tastic | 05:01 |
| sbalneav | George Carlin gives it 5 stars. | 05:02 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: great | 05:05 |
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| LaserJock | kill -9 xaos | 05:07 |
| jsgotangco | try xaos with thumping beats from h2 in the background | 05:08 |
| andrupal_ | sbalneav: got a GUI to finally authenticate as root user in LDAP...thanks again for your tireless help earlier | 05:08 |
| sbalneav | Excuse my while I kiss the sky, errr, Mandelbrot set. | 05:08 |
| sbalneav | andrupal_: What was hanging you up? | 05:08 |
| andrupal_ | As for gq, I don't know...I'm using a different gui LDAP Administration Tool...I changed the username to the full root dn and viola! | 05:09 |
| andrupal_ | I tried the same trick in gq and it still just smirked at me. | 05:10 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: xaos + pink floyd | 05:10 |
| LaserJock | that's gotta be illegal ;-) | 05:10 |
| jsgotangco | LaserJock: that's hendrix | 05:10 |
| sbalneav | jsgotangco, LaserJock, Burgundavia, et al. I had a busy day. The aircon shutdown in my server room. Arrived today to a dozen crashed servers and a 36 deg C (97 F) server room | 05:10 |
| Burgundavia | ouch | 05:10 |
| jsgotangco | 36 ouch | 05:10 |
| sbalneav | yeah, wasn't pretty | 05:11 |
| sbalneav | think I got most things back on line, but I'll find out for sure when the users show up : | 05:11 |
| sbalneav | :) | 05:11 |
| LaserJock | anybody try jokosher lately? | 05:11 |
| sbalneav | No, i keep meaning to look at it. | 05:12 |
| jsgotangco | i have it | 05:12 |
| LaserJock | I was thinking of putting it in Feisty | 05:13 |
| sbalneav | Sure. | 05:13 |
| LaserJock | but jono said it was too unstable | 05:13 |
| sbalneav | Meh, what does he know. | 05:13 |
| LaserJock | sounded like it might be better for gutsy | 05:13 |
| LaserJock | so I wondered if anybody had any thoughts | 05:13 |
| sbalneav | I do. | 05:14 |
| sbalneav | "A b**r would be good about now" | 05:14 |
| sbalneav | That's my thought | 05:14 |
| sbalneav | Oh, about jokosher. | 05:14 |
| sbalneav | Sure, pack it up for gutsy | 05:14 |
| sbalneav | Music classes might get a bang out of it. | 05:15 |
| LaserJock | we should have some sort of video editing software | 05:16 |
| sbalneav | Dont we? | 05:16 |
| LaserJock | I know at my uni iMovie is all the rage | 05:16 |
| sbalneav | Kino? | 05:16 |
| LaserJock | oh, right | 05:16 |
| LaserJock | does anybody use that? | 05:17 |
| LaserJock | seems like I read something about it being horribly broken | 05:17 |
| LaserJock | but that could be denemo | 05:17 |
| sbalneav | Umm, well it's broken for me. | 05:17 |
| sbalneav | But I thought that was just me. | 05:18 |
| LaserJock | kino is? | 05:18 |
| sbalneav | yeah | 05:18 |
| LaserJock | what does it do? | 05:18 |
| sbalneav | It wont even start on my box | 05:18 |
| LaserJock | oh | 05:18 |
| LaserJock | on gutsy? | 05:18 |
| sbalneav | looks like it's trying to bring up a banner page, and hangs. | 05:18 |
| sbalneav | yeah | 05:18 |
| LaserJock | darn, I really must be from Reno, I spelled it kino | 05:18 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 05:19 |
| LaserJock | sorry, keno rather | 05:19 |
| andrupal_ | just to make sure I understand the wiring of a client-server pair...1) I have a client connected to the LDAP server via a crossover, is this right?...2) the IP addr of the LDAP server is the default 127.0.0.1 but I notice this is also the loopback IP address of the client...this seems problematic. Should I be doing something like assigning an IP to the LDAP server? OR is this normal? | 05:20 |
| sbalneav | Oh, man. | 05:21 |
| sbalneav | Dude, stop | 05:21 |
| sbalneav | slow it up one sec. | 05:22 |
| sbalneav | First, what do you mean, I have a client connected to the LDAP server via a crossover | 05:22 |
| andrupal_ | have a b**r | 05:23 |
| jsgotangco | LaserJock: diva | 05:23 |
| sbalneav | what client, are you trying to set up a thin client workstation? | 05:23 |
| andrupal_ | Well, the server has two NICs...one to a router and the other to the thick client. | 05:23 |
| LaserJock | jsgotangco: hmm? | 05:23 |
| jsgotangco | LaserJock: you're looking for video editing right? | 05:24 |
| LaserJock | yeah, sorry | 05:24 |
| LaserJock | I moved on ;-) | 05:25 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 05:25 |
| LaserJock | I'm going through Open Source Victoria's educational FLOSS catalog | 05:25 |
| LaserJock | looking at what I can try to push into gutsy | 05:25 |
| jsgotangco | victoria canada? | 05:26 |
| LaserJock | I don't think so | 05:26 |
| LaserJock | I think it's Australian | 05:26 |
| sbalneav | andrupal_: Your server's going to have 3 ip addresses. | 05:26 |
| LaserJock | Burgundavia would know | 05:26 |
| sbalneav | 127.0.0.1, which is the loopback address (think fake IP address that things on the box can use to talk to themselves about) | 05:27 |
| sbalneav | and the two REAL ip addresses that the nics should have. On different subnets. | 05:27 |
| andrupal_ | Once NIC should be static, right? | 05:27 |
| andrupal_ | The other DHCP to take an IP from my ISP.. | 05:28 |
| sbalneav | Correct | 05:29 |
| andrupal_ | OK so using 127.0.0.1 as the IP of the LDAP server is a problem. | 05:29 |
| sbalneav | Is that the address you assigned to the ethernet card? | 05:30 |
| sbalneav | yes, that's a problem. | 05:30 |
| andrupal_ | If every linux client uses this IP as it's localhost IP... | 05:30 |
| andrupal_ | OK so I'll change that...but where does the config happen to assign the LDAP server to that IP? | 05:31 |
| sbalneav | It doesn't | 05:31 |
| andrupal_ | ldap.conf? | 05:31 |
| sbalneav | the LDAP server will listen for connection attempts on ANY ip interface | 05:31 |
| sbalneav | When you have the client AND the server on the same box, you tell the client to connect to 127.0.0.1 | 05:31 |
| sbalneav | the loopback address. | 05:32 |
| andrupal_ | I see...but calling it ldap://localhost in the network doesn't make any sense. I should assign it the IP of the NIC. | 05:32 |
| sbalneav | it's a "pretend" ip address than you can bind to, so that two programs that communicate via IP can talk to each other via a "network" without generating any traffic on the network. | 05:33 |
| sbalneav | yes. | 05:33 |
| sbalneav | so if your LDAP server has a static address of 192.168.0.200, lets say | 05:33 |
| sbalneav | you want ldap://192.168.0.200 | 05:33 |
| andrupal_ | even in the ldap.conf file on the server? | 05:33 |
| andrupal_ | or just on the client. | 05:34 |
| sbalneav | no, the ldap.conf file on the SERVER can reference 127.0.0.1, since it's on the SAME BOX. | 05:34 |
| andrupal_ | got it. | 05:34 |
| andrupal_ | Thanks again! | 05:37 |
| andrupal_ | Wait! I need to have DCHP running on the server to assign an IP to the client as well...right? | 05:41 |
| sbalneav | The client's a client with a hard drive? | 05:45 |
| sbalneav | if so, just asign it a static ip address, different than the server, on the same subnet | 05:46 |
| andrupal_ | ok...simpler...long term I'll need DHCP to work, not now. | 05:57 |
| LaserJock | ok, so I'm looking through a lot of cool content tools for education | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | and I'm wondering why we don't have them | 06:10 |
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| LaserJock | man I love shell scripts | 06:41 |
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| RichEd | g'monday morning | 08:11 |
| jsgotangco | hi | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | hi RichEd | 08:15 |
| RichEd | hi jsgotangco & LaserJock | 08:15 |
| jsgotangco | sup | 08:15 |
| RichEd | jsgotangco: how's the career situation ? | 08:15 |
| jsgotangco | RichEd: not bad, i'm at the office now (which is my bedroom) | 08:16 |
| RichEd | jsgotangco: how's the early morning commute ? | 08:16 |
| jsgotangco | sure i wake up, bring my daughter to school, do a morning run back home and i start working after a shower | 08:17 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 08:17 |
| jsgotangco | so many trips for me though | 08:17 |
| jsgotangco | RichEd: looking into balance of working at home | 08:24 |
| RichEd | jsgotangco: can be tricky ... mostly you get sucked into *more* hours, not less than an office worker. difficult to switch off ... literally & figuratively | 08:25 |
| jsgotangco | its a good thing we're building an office in a nearby city | 08:26 |
| jsgotangco | because the other office is an hour away by plane heh | 08:27 |
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| LaserJock | RichEd: ready for a long read? | 09:01 |
| RichEd | LaserJock: some time today :) ... appreciated | 09:01 |
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| LaserJock | RichEd: sent | 09:23 |
| LaserJock | RichEd: I also did some work on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JordanMantha/EdubuntuMIRCandidates today | 09:23 |
| RichEd | thanks LaserJock ... will give you some feedback on both | 09:23 |
| LaserJock | I also managed to get some decent Edubuntu bug triage in | 09:24 |
| LaserJock | next is spec work, gotta get things in before Feature Freeze :/ | 09:24 |
| LaserJock | deadlines are quite a bit earlier in Main, I have to remind myself of that | 09:25 |
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| pips1 | good morning | 09:57 |
| RichEd | hi pips1 ... got your mails thanks ... am setting aside the whole morning tomorrow to catch up on what I owe you | 10:02 |
| pips1 | ok :-) | 10:02 |
| RichEd | pips1: will you be at the wed meeting ? can we make 30 mins together at or around the time ? | 10:02 |
| pips1 | let me check my agenda... | 10:03 |
| pips1 | it's a noon time meeting. Ok, I can make time for that | 10:04 |
| pips1 | what is better for you: before the meeting or towards the end? | 10:04 |
| RichEd | before is good ... so we can present a united front during the meeting on community | 10:05 |
| pips1 | ok, 11:30 UTC ? | 10:05 |
| RichEd | how about 11:00 UTC ... then we have 30 mins to chat and then 30 mins to prep for meeting if there are any consequences ? | 10:05 |
| RichEd | i.e. 11:00-11:30 pips1 and rich | 10:05 |
| pips1 | ok, agreed | 10:05 |
| RichEd | 11:30 pips1 is free to work | 10:06 |
| RichEd | 12:00 meeting | 10:06 |
| RichEd | thanks :) as usual | 10:06 |
| pips1 | fine | 10:06 |
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| pips1 | RichEd: if you could send me those slides (tomorrow morning?) that would be great | 10:09 |
| pips1 | I can put them on the wiki page, if you are too busy | 10:09 |
| RichEd | top of the list ... you and augustin | 10:09 |
| pips1 | oki | 10:09 |
| RichEd | will mail and add ... I need to check who else has not provided slides and chase them up | 10:09 |
| pips1 | chasing up... yeah, that always takes time :-/ | 10:10 |
| RichEd | ogra: ping | 10:11 |
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| crimsun | ogra: I've disabled the a52 alsa-lib plugin in the alsa-plugins source package to save 2 MB on the alternate cd image; please let me know if it presents an issue. | 11:05 |
| crimsun | hmm, I must have been looking at unstripped | 11:14 |
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| pips1 | moquist: hi | 11:25 |
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| ogra | RichEd, pong | 11:31 |
| ogra | crimsun, i dont think i use it anywhere specifically | 11:31 |
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| RichEd | ogra ... sent a /msg do you have it ? | 11:32 |
| RichEd | ogra: back to your favourite pastime, juggling CD space & files ? :( | 11:33 |
| ogra | yeah | 11:33 |
| ogra | and thats the server iso ... | 11:34 |
| ogra | it should even have spare space | 11:34 |
| ogra | must find out whats wrong there especially since its only i386 | 11:34 |
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| moquist | pips1: hi | 12:31 |
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| ubuntuers | someone could help me build an internet cafe using edubuntu? | 01:05 |
| `6og | ubuntuers, probably depends what help you need | 01:07 |
| ubuntuers | someone could help me build an internet cafe using edubuntu? | 01:08 |
| `6og | ubuntuers, no | 01:08 |
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| sbalneav | Morning all | 03:00 |
| cliebow2 | Scotti! | 03:00 |
| sbalneav | Morning cliebow2 | 03:01 |
| sbalneav | eugh. Didn't sleep a wink last night | 03:01 |
| sbalneav | Had another thunderstorm, layed awake and worried wether or not the aircon at work was still on | 03:01 |
| cliebow2 | how you coming along?? i am on vacation in Jersey shore.. | 03:01 |
| cliebow2 | we had one as well.. | 03:01 |
| cliebow2 | i thought they were moving dumpsters at th erstaurant next dor | 03:02 |
| sbalneav | You see the problems I had yesterday? | 03:02 |
| cliebow2 | no..i was travelling | 03:02 |
| sbalneav | Our aircon shut down in the server room | 03:02 |
| cliebow2 | holy!! | 03:02 |
| sbalneav | when I got there, it was 97 F | 03:02 |
| sbalneav | Had a ton of broken stuff | 03:02 |
| cliebow2 | holy!!/ | 03:03 |
| cliebow2 | damn!! | 03:03 |
| cliebow2 | operating systems? | 03:03 |
| sbalneav | everything | 03:08 |
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| pips1 | sbalneav: !!! | 03:16 |
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| pips1 | sbalneav: hope the most critical things are ok... :-/ | 03:17 |
| cliebow2_ | gotta go look n the sidewalk for warmarks | 03:17 |
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| sbalneav | pips1: back | 03:42 |
| sbalneav | yeah, I got everything back online. | 03:43 |
| sbalneav | Always have spare hard disks and psu's on hand | 03:43 |
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| pips1 | kudos | 03:45 |
| pips1 | well done :-) | 03:46 |
| aaylnx | i'm new to edubuntu. i'm thinking about setting up a client with dual monitors. should i expect this to be a headache or are dual monitors on client pcs well supported in edubuntu? | 03:47 |
| aaylnx | i know will be getting better support for dual monitors so maybe that will effect edubuntu clients also. | 03:49 |
| aaylnx | guttsy that is. | 03:50 |
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| RichEd | aaylnx: ask in #ubuntu ... monitors is a "base level" support issue ... | 04:32 |
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| stgraber | RichEd, aaylnx : Dual head will be hard to configure on a thin client as the xorg.conf is regenerated every reboot, it should become easier with Gutsy and the new Xorg | 05:06 |
| ogra | well | 05:06 |
| ogra | you can easily use a static xorg.conf | 05:06 |
| ogra | just have to generate/write it | 05:07 |
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| stgraber | ogra: can we assign a different xorg.conf for each client ? | 05:07 |
| ogra | out of the box ltsp will only generate single display configurations | 05:07 |
| ogra | stgraber, sure | 05:07 |
| ogra | you can have a mac address based section for every single client in your lts.conf | 05:08 |
| stgraber | ogra: right, I just didn't know you can specify a xorg.conf there | 05:08 |
| ogra | see /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client-core/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz (or ltsp-client instead in feisty and before) | 05:09 |
| ogra | XF86CONFIG_FILE | 05:09 |
| stgraber | aaylnx: ^ you have your answer :) | 05:11 |
| RichEd | stgraber: thanks for the info :) | 05:15 |
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| aaylnx | ogra, stgraber thanks! that does pretty much answer things. | 05:46 |
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| stgraber | oh, gutsy-changes seems to be working again :) | 05:52 |
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| LaserJock | morning Edubuntu land | 06:28 |
| LaserJock | ogra: I did some cleanup on gcompris | 06:29 |
| LaserJock | and added rasmol and qcad to our ~edubuntu-bugs list | 06:29 |
| ogra | thanks ! | 06:30 |
| ogra | i saw the bug work :) | 06:30 |
| LaserJock | yes, there were a few bugmails | 06:31 |
| LaserJock | most of it was just triage kind of things | 06:31 |
| LaserJock | not a lot of closings, unfortunately | 06:31 |
| === ogra was busy playing with hal | ||
| LaserJock | yeah? | 06:32 |
| sbalneav | What's the page with bugs? | 06:32 |
| LaserJock | I use http://launchpad.net/~edubuntu-bugs/+packagereport | 06:33 |
| ogra | LaserJock, yep http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ltspfs-hal-root.png | 06:33 |
| LaserJock | sorry, that URL should be http://launchpad.net/~edubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs | 06:33 |
| LaserJock | ogra: interesting | 06:33 |
| LaserJock | so what are you going to do with that? | 06:34 |
| ogra | its only the root device yet | 06:34 |
| ogra | all ltspfs volumes will regiseter as children | 06:34 |
| ogra | *register | 06:34 |
| sbalneav | LaserJock: ah, sexy. | 06:35 |
| sbalneav | ok, I'll start wandering through some of those. | 06:35 |
| === ogra wonders when vagrants talk will show up on http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2007/debconf7/low/ | ||
| LaserJock | oh nifty, I'll want to see that. I didn't know he was talking | 06:36 |
| LaserJock | qcad has a lot more bugs than I expected | 06:36 |
| LaserJock | quite a few crashers | 06:37 |
| ogra | https://penta.debconf.org/~joerg/events/22.en.html | 06:37 |
| ogra | "hiking the trail to LTSP 5.0 and the friends we make along the way" | 06:37 |
| ogra | *G* | 06:37 |
| ogra | beautiful title | 06:37 |
| LaserJock | yes | 06:37 |
| LaserJock | ogra: ok, I was going to start building some metapackages | 06:38 |
| ogra | cool | 06:38 |
| LaserJock | I wondered how you wanted them done. Do you want to use seed files? | 06:38 |
| LaserJock | or should I just build it "manually" | 06:38 |
| ogra | well, that would require germinate integration | 06:39 |
| ogra | i think manually should be fine | 06:39 |
| LaserJock | ok, that's a bit easier for me | 06:39 |
| ogra | you could look at the new control.in/control.Debian/control.Ubuntu architecture we have in ltsp and steal that | 06:40 |
| LaserJock | since the package lists aren't that big | 06:40 |
| LaserJock | ah, ok | 06:40 |
| ogra | that just uses a list attached to a variable | 06:40 |
| ogra | but we could make it a line by line list as well, similar to the seeds | 06:40 |
| LaserJock | well, I'll just see as I go along | 06:41 |
| LaserJock | I just wondered if you wanted it in the edubuntu seeds or not | 06:41 |
| ogra | i want the package in the seeds :) | 06:50 |
| LaserJock | the package yes ;-) | 06:52 |
| LaserJock | also, I last night I went through the OSV Educational apps .pdf and filled out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JordanMantha/EdubuntuMIRCandidates | 06:52 |
| LaserJock | there were some pretty interesting content management apps in the list that we don't have in Ubuntu | 06:54 |
| LaserJock | perhaps it might be a good project for some budding young MOTU Hopefuls to package some up ;-) | 06:55 |
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| LaserJock | oh heah, bdoin is here | 06:57 |
| bdoin | Hi, | 06:58 |
| bdoin | something I can do ? | 06:58 |
| LaserJock | every time I go to say hi you've just left :-) | 06:58 |
| LaserJock | bdoin: over the weekend I went through all the gcompris bugs in Ubuntu | 06:59 |
| bdoin | hum, your out of luck, I usually stay there too long ;) | 06:59 |
| bdoin | really | 06:59 |
| LaserJock | I wanted to get your input on a few | 07:00 |
| bdoin | sure | 07:00 |
| LaserJock | bug #41172 and bug #67360 | 07:01 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 41172 in gcompris "XUBUNTU panels in Gcompris" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41172 | 07:01 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 67360 in gcompris "GCompris Fullscreen mode causes gnome-session to end with vesa driver" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67360 | 07:01 |
| bdoin | We have completly changed this code, moved from xrandr to xvidmod | 07:02 |
| bdoin | it has perhaps made the bug disappear | 07:02 |
| bdoin | but, it's not a GCompris bug, it's the vesa driver which is bugged | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | ok | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | that's sort of what I wanted to know | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | if I should close the gcompris part of the bug | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | and leave it as a vesa issue | 07:03 |
| bdoin | what GCompris release is this bug for ? | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | oh geeze, probably 7.2 or 7.4 | 07:04 |
| LaserJock | both bugs are from 2006 | 07:04 |
| LaserJock | and we've just got 8.X in Feisty | 07:05 |
| bdoin | at 8.2 we changed to xvidmod IIRC | 07:05 |
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| LaserJock | bdoin: I'm also interested in what you think of bug #115611 | 07:07 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 115611 in gcompris "gcompris messes up screen" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115611 | 07:07 |
| LaserJock | it's kind of a messy bug report | 07:07 |
| LaserJock | but the part where people end up with a 800x600 viewport after exiting gcompris fullscreen | 07:08 |
| bdoin | it's kind of funny | 07:08 |
| bdoin | there is 2 problems, the 3 screen support (xinerame) and the tuxpaint crash | 07:09 |
| bdoin | I still have complaints that we crashes when tuxpaint is not installed | 07:10 |
| LaserJock | yes, I tried it and it didn't crash, but it just hung | 07:10 |
| bdoin | and when we crashes, we catch it and do our best to set back the screen resolution | 07:10 |
| bdoin | probably a regular kill (without -9) would have work regarding the screen resolution | 07:11 |
| LaserJock | well, I wondered if maybe we should just make tuxpaint a dependency | 07:11 |
| bdoin | at least, it's an easy fix but maybe it will hurt edubuntu one cd packaging | 07:12 |
| LaserJock | well, we already include tuxpaint | 07:12 |
| bdoin | then it's an easy fix | 07:13 |
| LaserJock | bdoin: ok, I've got to run to work | 07:13 |
| LaserJock | what's the best way of forwarding bugs onto you? I don't see any bug tracker on the gcompris site | 07:14 |
| bdoin | for the xinerama, I don't know | 07:14 |
| bdoin | http://gcompris.net/-Documentation,10- | 07:15 |
| bdoin | How-to report a bug | 07:15 |
| bdoin | I agree, it's not easy to find | 07:15 |
| LaserJock | bdoin: doh | 07:15 |
| LaserJock | ok, thanks for your help | 07:15 |
| LaserJock | I'll try to forward on as much as I can there | 07:16 |
| bdoin | ok | 07:19 |
| bdoin | I am going there, any of edubuntu team attending ? http://akademy2007.kde.org/codingmarathon/schoolday.php | 07:20 |
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| someperson | is this where people can ask questions? | 07:21 |
| someperson | on edubuntu | 07:22 |
| someperson | irs://freenode/ubuntu | 07:22 |
| someperson | irc://freenode/ubuntu | 07:22 |
| bdoin | yes | 07:23 |
| someperson | i use an ltsp server, and everytime a thin client selects hibernate my server seems to hibernate | 07:23 |
| someperson | is there some way to disable that | 07:24 |
| bdoin | It makes sense that the server gets the command and there is probably a way to disable this. what desktop are you using ? | 07:32 |
| stgraber | you can disable it in gconf, but I don't really know what's the way to do the change systemwide | 07:32 |
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| stgraber | it's in : apps/gnome-power-manager/ | 07:33 |
| stgraber | you should have something like can_suspend and can_hibernate | 07:33 |
| stgraber | just switch them to false and find a way to do that system wide :) | 07:33 |
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| someperson | oh cool | 07:36 |
| someperson | great, i'll try that, thanks | 07:36 |
| stgraber | np | 07:37 |
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| gsvl | I was wondering. Where do i find a list of schools using Edubuntu (anyone in Denmark?)? | 07:46 |
| shishirjh | what is the absolute bare minimum hardware required for the thin client, and how much of RAM is needed so that the swap is not necessary | 07:50 |
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| shishirjh | what is the absolute bare minimum hardware required for the thin client, and how much of RAM is needed so that the swap is not necessary | 07:59 |
| stgraber | shishirjh: writting your question won't make it being solved faster :), anyway the answer is in the minimal requirement, just let me find the page | 08:01 |
| stgraber | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/HardwareRequirements | 08:02 |
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| sbalneav | ogra: Woot! Just got an email from Wouter. | 08:28 |
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| sbalneav | 2.9.4 upstream will have inetd back in!! | 08:28 |
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| LaserJock | sbalneav: rockin' | 08:32 |
| cliebow | rockin' dude!!! | 08:34 |
| cliebow | dudes i should say\ | 08:35 |
| cliebow | ogra:so what is involved getting my endians in a row to support ppc? | 08:37 |
| sbalneav | Yeah, he accepted the patch upstream | 08:37 |
| cliebow | he being? | 08:37 |
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| sbalneav | LaserJock: Did a little triaging at the bugsquad | 08:52 |
| sbalneav | in the ltsp area mainly | 08:52 |
| LaserJock | sbalneav: excellent | 08:57 |
| LaserJock | ltsp has the most bug reports | 08:57 |
| LaserJock | so it's a good place to work ;-) | 08:57 |
| sbalneav | Bunch of them seem to be update related, others will be handled by the ldm rewrite currently underway. | 08:58 |
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| georgsvl | Hi. Does anyone know where to find a list of schools using edubuntu? (like skolelinux.no has it). | 09:03 |
| LaserJock | georgsvl: I don't believe we have such a list | 09:04 |
| LaserJock | especially since we have no way of tracking users | 09:04 |
| georgsvl | Hmm.. :-( | 09:04 |
| LaserJock | I think it would be nice to do though | 09:04 |
| georgsvl | Does any one know of Danish Schools running it? | 09:04 |
| LaserJock | it might be something that RichEd might be interested in | 09:04 |
| georgsvl | We are sitting with 20 computers and a server in Aalborg, Denmark, and practising. So it would be nice to know about som schools ind Denmark. | 09:05 |
| LaserJock | georgsvl: I would suggest you email the edubuntu-users mailing list | 09:06 |
| georgsvl | LaserJock: Good idea. I will try that :-) | 09:06 |
| LaserJock | that would get a lot more exposure to your question :-) | 09:06 |
| georgsvl | LaserJock: A wiki-site etc. where you could add your school to a list, would be a nice idea :) | 09:08 |
| LaserJock | yes, suggest that in your email :-) | 09:08 |
| georgsvl | LaserJock: I'll do. | 09:08 |
| LaserJock | join #launchpad | 09:17 |
| LaserJock | blah | 09:17 |
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| hilmar | georgsvl: Yo man! | 09:17 |
| georgsvl | Anyone knows how not to have a black screen wheen a terminal client is booting | 09:35 |
| georgsvl | I would like to have some kind of indication to the user, that the computer is working. | 09:35 |
| sbalneav | Hmm, you should get a bootsplash screen | 09:37 |
| sbalneav | unless the bootsplash program doesn't like your particular graphics card, which is possible. | 09:38 |
| hilmar | Are there any particular new programs in edubuntu?? can only find the standard ubuntu files.. | 09:39 |
| hilmar | *files=programs | 09:39 |
| hilmar | is there a deb package? | 09:40 |
| LaserJock | hilmar: the Classroom Server Addon CD has most of the educational apps | 09:40 |
| hilmar | ahhhh | 09:40 |
| hilmar | of course | 09:41 |
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| pygi | LaserJock, poke? | 09:54 |
| pygi | unpoke | 09:55 |
| pygi | sorry :) | 09:55 |
| LaserJock | pygi: prode | 09:55 |
| pygi | LaserJock, I wanted to bug you about sponsoring, but I found poor soul :) | 09:56 |
| LaserJock | heh | 09:57 |
| pygi | what? :) | 09:58 |
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| [mdevilz] | hey i was wondering how do i change the screen resolution for the edubuntu server? As it is quite large and unusable .. using 7.04 | 11:17 |
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