[12:20] <andrupal> ok...
[12:21] <LaserJock> etank: ok, so are you basing it on Xubuntu?
[12:22] <etank> LaserJock: that is the idea
[12:22] <LaserJock> hmm
[12:22] <LaserJock> do you have limited disk space?
[12:22] <etank> LaserJock: we are thinking of doing a oem install of xubuntu on one machine and then ghosting it to the rest
[12:23] <etank> the drive space on some is a little limited
[12:23] <sbalneav> andrupal: ok
[12:23] <sbalneav> on your server tab:
[12:23] <etank> 10G or less i think
[12:23] <LaserJock> etank: I was just thinking becuase the Edubuntu Addon CD has XFCE4 on it
[12:23] <sbalneav> ldap Host/uri = localhost
[12:24] <sbalneav> Base DN is dc=example,dc=net
[12:24] <LaserJock> so you could do an edubuntu install with xfce4
[12:24] <sbalneav> on the Details tab:
[12:24] <LaserJock> it would also have all the Gnome stuff, hence the disk space question
[12:24] <etank> LaserJock: where is this addon cd
[12:24] <sbalneav> BindDN is cn=admin,dc=example,dc=net
[12:24] <sbalneav> bind password = the password
[12:24] <LaserJock> etank: www.edubuntu.org/Download
[12:24] <sbalneav> bind type = Simple
[12:25] <sbalneav> search attribute = cd
[12:25] <andrupal> cd or cn?
[12:25] <sbalneav> Ask password on first connect should be clicked on
[12:25] <sbalneav> cn
[12:25] <sbalneav> CommonName
[12:25] <LaserJock> etank: Classroom Server Add-on CD
[12:26] <LaserJock> etank: it's just a CD with the educational stuff and xfce4 .debs
[12:26] <etank> LaserJock: so i can use that cd once i have xubuntu installed ?
[12:26] <etank> or use it to do the whole install
[12:26] <LaserJock> once you have *buntu installed
[12:27] <etank> sweet
[12:27] <LaserJock> you can add the  CD as a repo source
[12:27] <andrupal> Ok. so this is what I've been trying...and searching for users with this access level yields nothing...is this normal
[12:27] <LaserJock> etank: if you pop the CD into a Ubuntu or Edubuntu install it pops up a little Add/Remove window
[12:27] <sbalneav> enable TLS should be off
[12:28] <LaserJock> etank: I'm really not sure if the add-on cd would be much better for you, but it does have the apps you want
[12:28] <etank> but it will be handy to have for later
[12:28] <etank> LaserJock: thanks for pointing it out
[12:29] <LaserJock> np
[12:29] <etank> and we want to be able to give something that allows the new owner to reinstall all of the apps that we placed on the box
[12:29] <sbalneav> andrupal: What happens if you go to browse?
[12:29] <andrupal> same deal...asls for password, then nothing
[12:29] <etank> so we can give them the xubuntu cd and the addon one as well and the will satisfy it
[12:31] <sbalneav> So, in the left hand pane, you see the localhost host, yes?
[12:32] <sbalneav> What exactly does the pop up box say?
[12:33] <andrupal> the "password required" popup?
[12:33] <sbalneav> yes
[12:34] <LaserJock> etank: you should test it out and see how well it works with xubuntu, but I think so
[03:44] <andrupal> having trouble getting LDAP client authentication to work.  Owing to help from this channel, I have LDAP server running and GUI authenticating so I can add users.  I seem to be stuck setting up nsswitch.ldap  and/or libnss-ldap.conf...the client still won't authenticate against the LDAP server
[04:17] <Burgundavia> andrupal: welcome to pain
[04:17] <Burgundavia> have you seen that LDAPClient page?
[04:23] <andrupal_> Yes...trying to follow...I do everything I see..naively...and it doesn't work...you're referring to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication?
[04:30] <andrupal_> still here
[04:34] <andrupal_> just sent my client into an infinite loop with that ever-so-helpful example file
[04:34] <andrupal_> How do I mount my hard drive from the livecd again?
[04:39] <Burgundavia> sudo mount /dev/blah /mountpoint
[04:39] <Burgundavia> oh, geez
[04:39] <Burgundavia> nope, taht isn't it
[04:44] <jsgotangco> hey Burgundavia how's it going with your life
[04:45] <Burgundavia> life goes on
[04:46] <Burgundavia> better last week
[04:47] <sbalneav> Burgundavia: Something happen?
[04:48] <Burgundavia> sbalneav: quit my job
[04:48] <Burgundavia> dealing with depression
[04:48] <sbalneav> Sorry to hear that.
[04:50] <sbalneav> LaserJock: Xaos is giving me the 5cent fractal tour
[04:50] <Burgundavia> it appears to be a common affliction int he tech industry
[04:51] <sbalneav> I find not giving a darn about a lot of things helps immensely :)
[04:51] <jsgotangco> heh i just started my new work today if its any news
[04:51] <jsgotangco> and im working from home
[04:51] <sbalneav> jsgotangco: Cool!
[04:51] <sbalneav> Whatcha doin?
[04:51] <jsgotangco> Apache land stuff
[04:51] <jsgotangco> (Maven)
[04:52] <sbalneav> apache land stuff.  Are we talking apache the web server or apache the North American First Nation?
[04:52] <jsgotangco> heh Apache Software Foundation project
[04:53] <jsgotangco> maven.apache.org
[04:53] <sbalneav> Oh, hehe.
[04:53] <sbalneav> When you said apache land stuff, we've got lots to do here in Canada with First Nations land claims :)
[04:53] <sbalneav> Confused me.
[04:54] <sbalneav> Well, I've never taken drugs, but this Xaos tutorial's about the next best thing :)
[04:54] <sbalneav> Freaky, man.
[04:54] <jsgotangco> first nations claim heh
[04:54] <jsgotangco> i'm mostly doing work in hadoop and solr though
[04:54] <jsgotangco> for the past few days
[04:55] <jsgotangco> we're also organising http://www.ossummit.com/
[04:55] <sbalneav> I prefer to do most of my work in flabbengormer and schlutzbarb, but hey, to each his own :)
[04:57] <sbalneav> whoooaaaah dude, Julia set's fab, man.
[04:57] <jsgotangco> haha
[04:58] <jsgotangco> you trippin on fractals dude
[04:58] <sbalneav> "I can see eternity"
[04:59] <sbalneav> If you showed this in an imax to a bunch hippies, it'd be flashback city.
[05:00] <jsgotangco> heh yeah
[05:01] <sbalneav> Well, that was trippy
[05:01] <sbalneav> LaserJock: Xaos not only works, it's hippy-trippy-tastic
[05:02] <sbalneav> George Carlin gives it 5 stars.
[05:05] <LaserJock> sbalneav: great
[05:07] <LaserJock> kill -9 xaos
[05:08] <jsgotangco> try xaos with thumping beats from h2 in the background
[05:08] <andrupal_> sbalneav:  got a GUI to finally authenticate as root user in LDAP...thanks again for your tireless help earlier
[05:08] <sbalneav> Excuse my while I kiss the sky, errr, Mandelbrot set.
[05:08] <sbalneav> andrupal_: What was hanging you up?
[05:09] <andrupal_> As for gq, I don't know...I'm using a different gui LDAP Administration Tool...I changed the username to the full root dn and viola!
[05:10] <andrupal_> I tried the same trick in gq and it still just smirked at me.
[05:10] <LaserJock> sbalneav: xaos + pink floyd
[05:10] <LaserJock> that's gotta be illegal ;-)
[05:10] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: that's hendrix
[05:10] <sbalneav> jsgotangco, LaserJock, Burgundavia, et al.  I had a busy day.  The aircon shutdown in my server room.  Arrived today to a dozen crashed servers and a 36 deg C (97 F) server room
[05:10] <Burgundavia> ouch
[05:10] <jsgotangco> 36 ouch
[05:11] <sbalneav> yeah, wasn't pretty
[05:11] <sbalneav> think I got most things back on line, but I'll find out for sure when the users show up :
[05:11] <sbalneav> :)
[05:11] <LaserJock> anybody try jokosher lately?
[05:12] <sbalneav> No, i keep meaning to look at it.
[05:12] <jsgotangco> i have it
[05:13] <LaserJock> I was thinking of putting it in Feisty
[05:13] <sbalneav> Sure.
[05:13] <LaserJock> but jono said it was too unstable
[05:13] <sbalneav> Meh, what does he know.
[05:13] <LaserJock> sounded like it might be better for gutsy
[05:13] <LaserJock> so I wondered if anybody had any thoughts
[05:14] <sbalneav> I do.
[05:14] <sbalneav> "A b**r would be good about now"
[05:14] <sbalneav> That's my thought
[05:14] <sbalneav> Oh, about jokosher.
[05:14] <sbalneav> Sure, pack it up for gutsy
[05:15] <sbalneav> Music classes might get a bang out of it.
[05:16] <LaserJock> we should have some sort of video editing software
[05:16] <sbalneav> Dont we?
[05:16] <LaserJock> I know at my uni iMovie is all the rage
[05:16] <sbalneav> Kino?
[05:16] <LaserJock> oh, right
[05:17] <LaserJock> does anybody use that?
[05:17] <LaserJock> seems like I read something about it being horribly broken
[05:17] <LaserJock> but that could be denemo
[05:17] <sbalneav> Umm, well it's broken for me.
[05:18] <sbalneav> But I thought that was just me.
[05:18] <LaserJock> kino is?
[05:18] <sbalneav> yeah
[05:18] <LaserJock> what does it do?
[05:18] <sbalneav> It wont even start on my box
[05:18] <LaserJock> oh
[05:18] <LaserJock> on gutsy?
[05:18] <sbalneav> looks like it's trying to bring up a banner page, and hangs.
[05:18] <sbalneav> yeah
[05:18] <LaserJock> darn, I really must be from Reno, I spelled it kino
[05:19] <LaserJock> ;-)
[05:19] <LaserJock> sorry, keno rather
[05:20] <andrupal_> just to make sure I understand the wiring of a client-server pair...1) I have a client connected to the LDAP server via a crossover, is this right?...2) the IP addr of the LDAP server is the default 127.0.0.1  but I notice this is also the loopback IP address of the client...this seems problematic.  Should I be doing something like assigning an IP to the LDAP server? OR is this normal?
[05:21] <sbalneav> Oh, man.
[05:21] <sbalneav> Dude, stop
[05:22] <sbalneav> slow it up one sec.
[05:22] <sbalneav> First, what do you mean,  I have a client connected to the LDAP server via a crossover
[05:23] <andrupal_> have a b**r
[05:23] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: diva
[05:23] <sbalneav> what client, are you trying to set up a thin client workstation?
[05:23] <andrupal_> Well, the server has two NICs...one to a router and the other to the thick client.
[05:23] <LaserJock> jsgotangco: hmm?
[05:24] <jsgotangco> LaserJock: you're looking for video editing right?
[05:24] <LaserJock> yeah, sorry
[05:25] <LaserJock> I moved on ;-)
[05:25] <jsgotangco> heh
[05:25] <LaserJock> I'm going through Open Source Victoria's educational FLOSS catalog
[05:25] <LaserJock> looking at what I can try to push into gutsy
[05:26] <jsgotangco> victoria canada?
[05:26] <LaserJock> I don't think so
[05:26] <LaserJock> I think it's Australian
[05:26] <sbalneav> andrupal_: Your server's going to have 3 ip addresses.
[05:26] <LaserJock> Burgundavia would know
[05:27] <sbalneav> 127.0.0.1, which is the loopback address (think fake IP address that things on the box can use to talk to themselves about)
[05:27] <sbalneav> and the two REAL ip addresses that the nics should have.  On different subnets.
[05:27] <andrupal_> Once NIC should be static, right?
[05:28] <andrupal_> The other DHCP to take an IP from my ISP..
[05:29] <sbalneav> Correct
[05:29] <andrupal_> OK so using 127.0.0.1 as the IP of the LDAP server is a problem.
[05:30] <sbalneav> Is that the address you assigned to the ethernet card?
[05:30] <sbalneav> yes, that's a problem.
[05:30] <andrupal_> If every linux client uses this IP as it's localhost IP...
[05:31] <andrupal_> OK so I'll change that...but where does the config happen to assign the LDAP server to that IP?
[05:31] <sbalneav> It doesn't
[05:31] <andrupal_> ldap.conf?
[05:31] <sbalneav> the LDAP server will listen for connection attempts on ANY ip interface
[05:31] <sbalneav> When you have the client AND the server on the same box, you tell the client to connect to 127.0.0.1
[05:32] <sbalneav> the loopback address.
[05:32] <andrupal_> I see...but calling it ldap://localhost in the network doesn't make any sense.  I should assign it the IP of the NIC.
[05:33] <sbalneav> it's a "pretend" ip address than you can bind to, so that two programs that communicate via IP can talk to each other via a "network" without generating any traffic on the network.
[05:33] <sbalneav> yes.
[05:33] <sbalneav> so if your LDAP server has a static address of 192.168.0.200, lets say
[05:33] <sbalneav> you want ldap://192.168.0.200
[05:33] <andrupal_> even in the ldap.conf file on the server?
[05:34] <andrupal_> or just on the client.
[05:34] <sbalneav> no, the ldap.conf file on the SERVER can reference 127.0.0.1, since it's on the SAME BOX.
[05:34] <andrupal_> got it.
[05:37] <andrupal_> Thanks again!
[05:41] <andrupal_> Wait!  I need to have DCHP running on the server to assign an IP to the client as well...right?
[05:45] <sbalneav> The client's a client with a hard drive?
[05:46] <sbalneav> if so, just asign it a static ip address, different than the server, on the same subnet
[05:57] <andrupal_> ok...simpler...long term I'll need DHCP to work, not now.
[06:10] <LaserJock> ok, so I'm looking through a lot of cool content tools for education
[06:10] <LaserJock> and I'm wondering why we don't have them
[06:41] <LaserJock> man I love shell scripts
[08:11] <RichEd> g'monday morning
[08:14] <jsgotangco> hi
[08:15] <LaserJock> hi RichEd
[08:15] <RichEd> hi jsgotangco & LaserJock
[08:15] <jsgotangco> sup
[08:15] <RichEd> jsgotangco: how's the career situation ?
[08:16] <jsgotangco> RichEd: not bad, i'm at the office now (which is my bedroom)
[08:16] <RichEd> jsgotangco: how's the early morning commute ?
[08:17] <jsgotangco> sure i wake up, bring my daughter to school, do a morning run back home and i start working after a shower
[08:17] <jsgotangco> hehe
[08:17] <jsgotangco> so many trips for me though
[08:24] <jsgotangco> RichEd: looking into balance of working at home
[08:25] <RichEd> jsgotangco: can be tricky ... mostly you get sucked into *more* hours, not less than an office worker. difficult to switch off ... literally & figuratively
[08:26] <jsgotangco> its a good thing we're building an office in a nearby city
[08:27] <jsgotangco> because the other office is an hour away by plane heh
[09:01] <LaserJock> RichEd: ready for a long read?
[09:01] <RichEd> LaserJock: some time today :) ... appreciated
[09:23] <LaserJock> RichEd: sent
[09:23] <LaserJock> RichEd: I also did some work on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JordanMantha/EdubuntuMIRCandidates today
[09:23] <RichEd> thanks LaserJock ... will give you some feedback on both
[09:24] <LaserJock> I also managed to get some decent Edubuntu bug triage in
[09:24] <LaserJock> next is spec work, gotta get things in before Feature Freeze :/
[09:25] <LaserJock> deadlines are quite a bit earlier in Main, I have to remind myself of that
[09:57] <pips1> good morning
[10:02] <RichEd> hi pips1 ... got your mails thanks ... am setting aside the whole morning tomorrow to catch up on what I owe you
[10:02] <pips1> ok :-)
[10:02] <RichEd> pips1: will you be at the wed meeting ? can we make 30 mins together at or around the time ?
[10:03] <pips1> let me check my agenda...
[10:04] <pips1> it's a noon time meeting. Ok, I can make time for that
[10:04] <pips1> what is better for you: before the meeting or towards the end?
[10:05] <RichEd> before is good ... so we can present a united front during the meeting on community
[10:05] <pips1> ok, 11:30 UTC ?
[10:05] <RichEd> how about 11:00 UTC ... then we have 30 mins to chat and then 30 mins to prep for meeting if there are any consequences ?
[10:05] <RichEd> i.e. 11:00-11:30 pips1 and rich
[10:05] <pips1> ok, agreed
[10:06] <RichEd> 11:30 pips1 is free to work
[10:06] <RichEd> 12:00 meeting
[10:06] <RichEd> thanks :) as usual
[10:06] <pips1> fine
[10:09] <pips1> RichEd: if you could send me those slides (tomorrow morning?) that would be great
[10:09] <pips1> I can put them on the wiki page, if you are too busy
[10:09] <RichEd> top of the list ... you and augustin
[10:09] <pips1> oki
[10:09] <RichEd> will mail and add ... I need to check who else has not provided slides and chase them up
[10:10] <pips1> chasing up... yeah, that always takes time :-/
[10:11] <RichEd> ogra: ping
[11:05] <crimsun> ogra: I've disabled the a52 alsa-lib plugin in the alsa-plugins source package to save 2 MB on the alternate cd image; please let me know if it presents an issue.
[11:14] <crimsun> hmm, I must have been looking at unstripped
[11:25] <pips1> moquist: hi
[11:31] <ogra> RichEd, pong
[11:31] <ogra> crimsun, i dont think i use it anywhere specifically
[11:32] <RichEd> ogra ... sent a /msg do you have it ?
[11:33] <RichEd> ogra: back to your favourite pastime, juggling CD space & files ? :(
[11:33] <ogra> yeah
[11:34] <ogra> and thats the server iso ...
[11:34] <ogra> it should even have spare space
[11:34] <ogra> must find out whats wrong there especially since its only i386
[12:31] <moquist> pips1: hi
[01:05] <ubuntuers>  someone could help me build an internet cafe using edubuntu?
[01:07] <`6og> ubuntuers, probably depends what help you need
[01:08] <ubuntuers>  someone could help me build an internet cafe using edubuntu?
[01:08] <`6og> ubuntuers, no
[03:00] <sbalneav> Morning all
[03:00] <cliebow2> Scotti!
[03:01] <sbalneav> Morning cliebow2
[03:01] <sbalneav> eugh.  Didn't sleep a wink last night
[03:01] <sbalneav> Had another thunderstorm, layed awake and worried wether or not the aircon at work was still on
[03:01] <cliebow2> how you coming along?? i am on vacation in Jersey shore..
[03:01] <cliebow2> we had one as well..
[03:02] <cliebow2> i thought they were moving dumpsters at th erstaurant next dor
[03:02] <sbalneav> You see the problems I had yesterday?
[03:02] <cliebow2> no..i was travelling
[03:02] <sbalneav> Our aircon shut down in the server room
[03:02] <cliebow2> holy!!
[03:02] <sbalneav> when I got there, it was 97 F
[03:02] <sbalneav> Had a ton of broken stuff
[03:03] <cliebow2> holy!!/
[03:03] <cliebow2> damn!!
[03:03] <cliebow2> operating systems?
[03:08] <sbalneav> everything
[03:16] <pips1> sbalneav: !!!
[03:17] <pips1> sbalneav: hope the most critical things are ok... :-/
[03:17] <cliebow2_> gotta go look n the sidewalk for warmarks
[03:42] <sbalneav> pips1: back
[03:43] <sbalneav> yeah, I got everything back online.
[03:43] <sbalneav> Always have spare hard disks and psu's on hand
[03:45] <pips1> kudos
[03:46] <pips1> well done :-)
[03:47] <aaylnx> i'm new to edubuntu.  i'm thinking about setting up a client with dual monitors.  should i expect this to be a headache or are dual monitors on client pcs well supported in edubuntu?
[03:49] <aaylnx> i know will be getting better support for dual monitors so maybe that will effect edubuntu clients also.
[03:50] <aaylnx> guttsy that is.
[04:32] <RichEd> aaylnx: ask in #ubuntu ... monitors is a "base level" support issue ...
[05:06] <stgraber> RichEd, aaylnx : Dual head will be hard to configure on a thin client as the xorg.conf is regenerated every reboot, it should become easier with Gutsy and the new Xorg
[05:06] <ogra> well
[05:06] <ogra> you can easily use a static xorg.conf
[05:07] <ogra> just have to generate/write it
[05:07] <stgraber> ogra: can we assign a different xorg.conf for each client ?
[05:07] <ogra> out of the box ltsp will only generate single display configurations
[05:07] <ogra> stgraber, sure
[05:08] <ogra> you can have a mac address based section for every single client in your lts.conf
[05:08] <stgraber> ogra: right, I just didn't know you can specify a xorg.conf there
[05:09] <ogra> see /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client-core/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz (or ltsp-client instead in feisty and before)
[05:09] <ogra> XF86CONFIG_FILE
[05:11] <stgraber> aaylnx: ^ you have your answer :)
[05:15] <RichEd> stgraber: thanks for the info :)
[05:46] <aaylnx> ogra, stgraber thanks!  that does pretty much answer things.
[05:52] <stgraber> oh, gutsy-changes seems to be working again :)
[06:28] <LaserJock> morning Edubuntu land
[06:29] <LaserJock> ogra: I did some cleanup on gcompris
[06:29] <LaserJock> and added rasmol and qcad to our ~edubuntu-bugs list
[06:30] <ogra> thanks !
[06:30] <ogra> i saw the bug work :)
[06:31] <LaserJock> yes, there were a few bugmails
[06:31] <LaserJock> most of it was just triage kind of things
[06:31] <LaserJock> not a lot of closings, unfortunately
[06:32] <LaserJock> yeah?
[06:32] <sbalneav> What's the page with bugs?
[06:33] <LaserJock> I use http://launchpad.net/~edubuntu-bugs/+packagereport
[06:33] <ogra> LaserJock, yep http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ltspfs-hal-root.png
[06:33] <LaserJock> sorry, that URL should be http://launchpad.net/~edubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs
[06:33] <LaserJock> ogra: interesting
[06:34] <LaserJock> so what are you going to do with that?
[06:34] <ogra> its only the root device yet
[06:34] <ogra> all ltspfs volumes will regiseter as children
[06:34] <ogra> *register
[06:35] <sbalneav> LaserJock: ah, sexy.
[06:35] <sbalneav> ok, I'll start wandering through some of those.
[06:36] <LaserJock> oh nifty, I'll want to see that. I didn't know he was talking
[06:36] <LaserJock> qcad has a lot more bugs than I expected
[06:37] <LaserJock> quite a few crashers
[06:37] <ogra> https://penta.debconf.org/~joerg/events/22.en.html
[06:37] <ogra> "hiking the trail to LTSP 5.0 and the friends we make along the way"
[06:37] <ogra> *G*
[06:37] <ogra> beautiful title
[06:37] <LaserJock> yes
[06:38] <LaserJock> ogra: ok, I was going to start building some metapackages
[06:38] <ogra> cool
[06:38] <LaserJock> I wondered how you wanted them done. Do you want to use seed files?
[06:38] <LaserJock> or should I just build it "manually"
[06:39] <ogra> well, that would require germinate integration
[06:39] <ogra> i think manually should be fine
[06:39] <LaserJock> ok, that's a bit easier for me
[06:40] <ogra> you could look at the new control.in/control.Debian/control.Ubuntu architecture we have in ltsp and steal that
[06:40] <LaserJock> since the package lists aren't that big
[06:40] <LaserJock> ah, ok
[06:40] <ogra> that just uses a list attached to a variable
[06:40] <ogra> but we could make it a line by line list as well, similar to the seeds
[06:41] <LaserJock> well, I'll just see as I go along
[06:41] <LaserJock> I just wondered if you wanted it in the edubuntu seeds or not
[06:50] <ogra> i want the package in the seeds :)
[06:52] <LaserJock> the package yes ;-)
[06:52] <LaserJock> also, I last night I went through the OSV Educational apps .pdf and filled out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JordanMantha/EdubuntuMIRCandidates
[06:54] <LaserJock> there were some pretty interesting content management apps in the list that we don't have in Ubuntu
[06:55] <LaserJock> perhaps it might be a good project for some budding young MOTU Hopefuls to package some up ;-)
[06:57] <LaserJock> oh heah, bdoin is here
[06:58] <bdoin> Hi,
[06:58] <bdoin> something I can do ?
[06:58] <LaserJock> every time I go to say hi you've just left :-)
[06:59] <LaserJock> bdoin: over the weekend I went through all the gcompris bugs in Ubuntu
[06:59] <bdoin> hum, your out of luck, I usually stay there too long ;)
[06:59] <bdoin> really
[07:00] <LaserJock> I wanted to get your input on a few
[07:00] <bdoin> sure
[07:01] <LaserJock> bug #41172 and bug #67360
[07:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 41172 in gcompris "XUBUNTU panels in Gcompris" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/41172
[07:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 67360 in gcompris "GCompris Fullscreen mode causes gnome-session to end with vesa driver" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/67360
[07:02] <bdoin> We have completly changed this code, moved from xrandr to xvidmod
[07:02] <bdoin> it has perhaps made the bug disappear
[07:03] <bdoin> but, it's not a GCompris bug, it's the vesa driver which is bugged
[07:03] <LaserJock> ok
[07:03] <LaserJock> that's sort of what I wanted to know
[07:03] <LaserJock> if I should close the gcompris part of the bug
[07:03] <LaserJock> and leave it as a vesa issue
[07:03] <bdoin> what GCompris release is this bug for ?
[07:04] <LaserJock> oh geeze, probably 7.2 or 7.4
[07:04] <LaserJock> both bugs are from 2006
[07:05] <LaserJock> and we've just got 8.X in Feisty
[07:05] <bdoin> at 8.2 we changed to xvidmod IIRC
[07:07] <LaserJock> bdoin: I'm also interested in what you think of bug #115611
[07:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115611 in gcompris "gcompris messes up screen" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115611
[07:07] <LaserJock> it's kind of a messy bug report
[07:08] <LaserJock> but the part where people end up with a 800x600 viewport after exiting gcompris fullscreen
[07:08] <bdoin> it's kind of funny
[07:09] <bdoin> there is 2 problems, the 3 screen support (xinerame) and the tuxpaint crash
[07:10] <bdoin> I still have complaints that we crashes when tuxpaint is not installed
[07:10] <LaserJock> yes, I tried it and it didn't crash, but it just hung
[07:10] <bdoin> and when we crashes, we catch it and do our best to set back the screen resolution
[07:11] <bdoin> probably a regular kill (without -9) would have work regarding the screen resolution
[07:11] <LaserJock> well, I wondered if maybe we should just make tuxpaint a dependency
[07:12] <bdoin> at least, it's an easy fix but maybe it will hurt edubuntu one cd packaging
[07:12] <LaserJock> well, we already include tuxpaint
[07:13] <bdoin> then it's an easy fix
[07:13] <LaserJock> bdoin: ok, I've got to run to work
[07:14] <LaserJock> what's the best way of forwarding bugs onto you? I don't see any bug tracker on the gcompris site
[07:14] <bdoin> for the xinerama, I don't know
[07:15] <bdoin> http://gcompris.net/-Documentation,10-
[07:15] <bdoin> How-to report a bug
[07:15] <bdoin> I agree, it's not easy to find
[07:15] <LaserJock> bdoin: doh
[07:15] <LaserJock> ok, thanks for your help
[07:16] <LaserJock> I'll try to forward on as much as I can there
[07:19] <bdoin> ok
[07:20] <bdoin> I am going there, any of edubuntu team attending ? http://akademy2007.kde.org/codingmarathon/schoolday.php
[07:21] <someperson> is this where people can ask questions?
[07:22] <someperson> on edubuntu
[07:22] <someperson> irs://freenode/ubuntu
[07:22] <someperson> irc://freenode/ubuntu
[07:23] <bdoin> yes
[07:23] <someperson> i use an ltsp server, and everytime a thin client selects hibernate my server seems to hibernate
[07:24] <someperson> is there some way to disable that
[07:32] <bdoin> It makes sense that the server gets the command and there is probably a way to disable this. what desktop are you using ?
[07:32] <stgraber> you can disable it in gconf, but I don't really know what's the way to do the change systemwide
[07:33] <stgraber> it's in : apps/gnome-power-manager/
[07:33] <stgraber> you should have something like can_suspend and can_hibernate
[07:33] <stgraber> just switch them to false and find a way to do that system wide :)
[07:36] <someperson> oh cool
[07:36] <someperson> great, i'll try that, thanks
[07:37] <stgraber> np
[07:46] <gsvl> I was wondering. Where do i find a list of schools using Edubuntu (anyone in Denmark?)?
[07:50] <shishirjh> what is the absolute bare minimum hardware required for the thin client, and how much of RAM is needed so that the swap is not necessary
[07:59] <shishirjh> what is the absolute bare minimum hardware required for the thin client, and how much of RAM is needed so that the swap is not necessary
[08:01] <stgraber> shishirjh: writting your question won't make it being solved faster :), anyway the answer is in the minimal requirement, just let me find the page
[08:02] <stgraber> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/HardwareRequirements
[08:28] <sbalneav> ogra: Woot!  Just got an email from Wouter.
[08:28] <sbalneav> 2.9.4 upstream will have inetd back in!!
[08:32] <LaserJock> sbalneav: rockin'
[08:34] <cliebow> rockin' dude!!!
[08:35] <cliebow> dudes i should say\
[08:37] <cliebow> ogra:so what is involved getting my endians in a row to support ppc?
[08:37] <sbalneav> Yeah, he accepted the patch upstream
[08:37] <cliebow> he being?
[08:52] <sbalneav> LaserJock: Did a little triaging at the bugsquad
[08:52] <sbalneav> in the ltsp area mainly
[08:57] <LaserJock> sbalneav: excellent
[08:57] <LaserJock> ltsp has the most bug reports
[08:57] <LaserJock> so it's a good place to work ;-)
[08:58] <sbalneav> Bunch of them seem to be update related, others will be handled by the ldm rewrite currently underway.
[09:03] <georgsvl> Hi. Does anyone know where to find a list of schools using edubuntu? (like skolelinux.no has it).
[09:04] <LaserJock> georgsvl: I don't believe we have such a list
[09:04] <LaserJock> especially since we have no way of tracking users
[09:04] <georgsvl> Hmm.. :-(
[09:04] <LaserJock> I think it would be nice to do though
[09:04] <georgsvl> Does any one know of Danish Schools running it?
[09:04] <LaserJock> it might be something that RichEd might be interested in
[09:05] <georgsvl> We are sitting with 20 computers and a server in Aalborg, Denmark, and practising. So it would be nice to know about som schools ind Denmark.
[09:06] <LaserJock> georgsvl: I would suggest you email the edubuntu-users mailing list
[09:06] <georgsvl> LaserJock: Good idea. I will try that :-)
[09:06] <LaserJock> that would get a lot more exposure to your question :-)
[09:08] <georgsvl> LaserJock: A wiki-site etc. where you could add your school to a list, would be a nice idea :)
[09:08] <LaserJock> yes, suggest that in your email :-)
[09:08] <georgsvl> LaserJock: I'll do.
[09:17] <LaserJock> join #launchpad
[09:17] <LaserJock> blah
[09:17] <hilmar> georgsvl: Yo man!
[09:35] <georgsvl> Anyone knows how not to have a black screen wheen a terminal client is booting
[09:35] <georgsvl> I would like to have some kind of indication to the user, that the computer is working.
[09:37] <sbalneav> Hmm, you should get a bootsplash screen
[09:38] <sbalneav> unless the bootsplash program doesn't like your particular graphics card, which is possible.
[09:39] <hilmar> Are there any particular new programs in edubuntu?? can only find the standard ubuntu files..
[09:39] <hilmar> *files=programs
[09:40] <hilmar> is there a deb package?
[09:40] <LaserJock> hilmar: the Classroom Server Addon CD has most of the educational apps
[09:40] <hilmar> ahhhh
[09:41] <hilmar> of course
[09:54] <pygi> LaserJock, poke?
[09:55] <pygi> unpoke
[09:55] <pygi> sorry :)
[09:55] <LaserJock> pygi: prode
[09:56] <pygi> LaserJock, I wanted to bug you about sponsoring, but I found poor soul :)
[09:57] <LaserJock> heh
[09:58] <pygi> what? :)
[11:17] <[mdevilz] > hey i was wondering how do i change the screen resolution for the edubuntu server? As it is quite large and unusable .. using 7.04