[12:20] ok... [12:21] etank: ok, so are you basing it on Xubuntu? [12:22] LaserJock: that is the idea [12:22] hmm === pauljw [n=paul@pool123.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:22] do you have limited disk space? === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [12:22] LaserJock: we are thinking of doing a oem install of xubuntu on one machine and then ghosting it to the rest [12:23] the drive space on some is a little limited [12:23] andrupal: ok [12:23] on your server tab: [12:23] 10G or less i think [12:23] etank: I was just thinking becuase the Edubuntu Addon CD has XFCE4 on it [12:23] ldap Host/uri = localhost [12:24] Base DN is dc=example,dc=net [12:24] so you could do an edubuntu install with xfce4 [12:24] on the Details tab: [12:24] it would also have all the Gnome stuff, hence the disk space question [12:24] LaserJock: where is this addon cd [12:24] BindDN is cn=admin,dc=example,dc=net [12:24] bind password = the password [12:24] etank: www.edubuntu.org/Download [12:24] bind type = Simple [12:25] search attribute = cd [12:25] cd or cn? [12:25] Ask password on first connect should be clicked on [12:25] cn [12:25] CommonName [12:25] etank: Classroom Server Add-on CD [12:26] etank: it's just a CD with the educational stuff and xfce4 .debs [12:26] LaserJock: so i can use that cd once i have xubuntu installed ? [12:26] or use it to do the whole install [12:26] once you have *buntu installed [12:27] sweet [12:27] you can add the CD as a repo source [12:27] Ok. so this is what I've been trying...and searching for users with this access level yields nothing...is this normal [12:27] etank: if you pop the CD into a Ubuntu or Edubuntu install it pops up a little Add/Remove window [12:27] enable TLS should be off [12:28] etank: I'm really not sure if the add-on cd would be much better for you, but it does have the apps you want [12:28] but it will be handy to have for later [12:28] LaserJock: thanks for pointing it out [12:29] np [12:29] and we want to be able to give something that allows the new owner to reinstall all of the apps that we placed on the box [12:29] andrupal: What happens if you go to browse? [12:29] same deal...asls for password, then nothing [12:29] so we can give them the xubuntu cd and the addon one as well and the will satisfy it [12:31] So, in the left hand pane, you see the localhost host, yes? [12:32] What exactly does the pop up box say? [12:33] the "password required" popup? [12:33] yes [12:34] etank: you should test it out and see how well it works with xubuntu, but I think so === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #edubuntu === Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released ! grab it while its hot ! http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | Upgraders see: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuLTSPUpgradeNotes === Topic (#edubuntu): set by ogra at Fri Apr 20 12:03:08 2007 === #edubuntu [freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw [n=paul@pool123.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw_ [n=paul@pool123.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu === andrupal [n=chatzill@user-12ld7dv.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #edubuntu [03:44] having trouble getting LDAP client authentication to work. Owing to help from this channel, I have LDAP server running and GUI authenticating so I can add users. I seem to be stuck setting up nsswitch.ldap and/or libnss-ldap.conf...the client still won't authenticate against the LDAP server === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.105.110] has joined #edubuntu === andrupal_ [n=chatzill@user-12ld7dv.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #edubuntu [04:17] andrupal: welcome to pain [04:17] have you seen that LDAPClient page? [04:23] Yes...trying to follow...I do everything I see..naively...and it doesn't work...you're referring to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication? [04:30] still here === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [04:34] just sent my client into an infinite loop with that ever-so-helpful example file [04:34] How do I mount my hard drive from the livecd again? [04:39] sudo mount /dev/blah /mountpoint [04:39] oh, geez [04:39] nope, taht isn't it === sbalneav_ is now known as sbalneav [04:44] hey Burgundavia how's it going with your life [04:45] life goes on [04:46] better last week [04:47] Burgundavia: Something happen? [04:48] sbalneav: quit my job [04:48] dealing with depression [04:48] Sorry to hear that. [04:50] LaserJock: Xaos is giving me the 5cent fractal tour [04:50] it appears to be a common affliction int he tech industry [04:51] I find not giving a darn about a lot of things helps immensely :) [04:51] heh i just started my new work today if its any news [04:51] and im working from home [04:51] jsgotangco: Cool! [04:51] Whatcha doin? [04:51] Apache land stuff [04:51] (Maven) [04:52] apache land stuff. Are we talking apache the web server or apache the North American First Nation? [04:52] heh Apache Software Foundation project [04:53] maven.apache.org [04:53] Oh, hehe. [04:53] When you said apache land stuff, we've got lots to do here in Canada with First Nations land claims :) [04:53] Confused me. [04:54] Well, I've never taken drugs, but this Xaos tutorial's about the next best thing :) [04:54] Freaky, man. [04:54] first nations claim heh [04:54] i'm mostly doing work in hadoop and solr though [04:54] for the past few days [04:55] we're also organising http://www.ossummit.com/ [04:55] I prefer to do most of my work in flabbengormer and schlutzbarb, but hey, to each his own :) [04:57] whoooaaaah dude, Julia set's fab, man. [04:57] haha [04:58] you trippin on fractals dude [04:58] "I can see eternity" [04:59] If you showed this in an imax to a bunch hippies, it'd be flashback city. [05:00] heh yeah [05:01] Well, that was trippy [05:01] LaserJock: Xaos not only works, it's hippy-trippy-tastic [05:02] George Carlin gives it 5 stars. [05:05] sbalneav: great === LaserJock takes away sbalneav's drugs before it gets too bad [05:07] kill -9 xaos [05:08] try xaos with thumping beats from h2 in the background [05:08] sbalneav: got a GUI to finally authenticate as root user in LDAP...thanks again for your tireless help earlier [05:08] Excuse my while I kiss the sky, errr, Mandelbrot set. [05:08] andrupal_: What was hanging you up? [05:09] As for gq, I don't know...I'm using a different gui LDAP Administration Tool...I changed the username to the full root dn and viola! [05:10] I tried the same trick in gq and it still just smirked at me. [05:10] sbalneav: xaos + pink floyd [05:10] that's gotta be illegal ;-) [05:10] LaserJock: that's hendrix [05:10] jsgotangco, LaserJock, Burgundavia, et al. I had a busy day. The aircon shutdown in my server room. Arrived today to a dozen crashed servers and a 36 deg C (97 F) server room [05:10] ouch [05:10] 36 ouch [05:11] yeah, wasn't pretty [05:11] think I got most things back on line, but I'll find out for sure when the users show up : [05:11] :) [05:11] anybody try jokosher lately? [05:12] No, i keep meaning to look at it. [05:12] i have it [05:13] I was thinking of putting it in Feisty [05:13] Sure. [05:13] but jono said it was too unstable [05:13] Meh, what does he know. [05:13] sounded like it might be better for gutsy [05:13] so I wondered if anybody had any thoughts [05:14] I do. [05:14] "A b**r would be good about now" [05:14] That's my thought [05:14] Oh, about jokosher. [05:14] Sure, pack it up for gutsy [05:15] Music classes might get a bang out of it. [05:16] we should have some sort of video editing software [05:16] Dont we? [05:16] I know at my uni iMovie is all the rage [05:16] Kino? [05:16] oh, right [05:17] does anybody use that? [05:17] seems like I read something about it being horribly broken [05:17] but that could be denemo [05:17] Umm, well it's broken for me. [05:18] But I thought that was just me. [05:18] kino is? [05:18] yeah [05:18] what does it do? [05:18] It wont even start on my box [05:18] oh [05:18] on gutsy? [05:18] looks like it's trying to bring up a banner page, and hangs. [05:18] yeah [05:18] darn, I really must be from Reno, I spelled it kino [05:19] ;-) [05:19] sorry, keno rather [05:20] just to make sure I understand the wiring of a client-server pair...1) I have a client connected to the LDAP server via a crossover, is this right?...2) the IP addr of the LDAP server is the default 127.0.0.1 but I notice this is also the loopback IP address of the client...this seems problematic. Should I be doing something like assigning an IP to the LDAP server? OR is this normal? [05:21] Oh, man. [05:21] Dude, stop [05:22] slow it up one sec. [05:22] First, what do you mean, I have a client connected to the LDAP server via a crossover [05:23] have a b**r [05:23] LaserJock: diva [05:23] what client, are you trying to set up a thin client workstation? [05:23] Well, the server has two NICs...one to a router and the other to the thick client. [05:23] jsgotangco: hmm? [05:24] LaserJock: you're looking for video editing right? [05:24] yeah, sorry [05:25] I moved on ;-) [05:25] heh [05:25] I'm going through Open Source Victoria's educational FLOSS catalog [05:25] looking at what I can try to push into gutsy [05:26] victoria canada? [05:26] I don't think so [05:26] I think it's Australian [05:26] andrupal_: Your server's going to have 3 ip addresses. [05:26] Burgundavia would know [05:27] 127.0.0.1, which is the loopback address (think fake IP address that things on the box can use to talk to themselves about) [05:27] and the two REAL ip addresses that the nics should have. On different subnets. [05:27] Once NIC should be static, right? [05:28] The other DHCP to take an IP from my ISP.. [05:29] Correct [05:29] OK so using 127.0.0.1 as the IP of the LDAP server is a problem. [05:30] Is that the address you assigned to the ethernet card? [05:30] yes, that's a problem. [05:30] If every linux client uses this IP as it's localhost IP... [05:31] OK so I'll change that...but where does the config happen to assign the LDAP server to that IP? [05:31] It doesn't [05:31] ldap.conf? [05:31] the LDAP server will listen for connection attempts on ANY ip interface [05:31] When you have the client AND the server on the same box, you tell the client to connect to 127.0.0.1 [05:32] the loopback address. [05:32] I see...but calling it ldap://localhost in the network doesn't make any sense. I should assign it the IP of the NIC. [05:33] it's a "pretend" ip address than you can bind to, so that two programs that communicate via IP can talk to each other via a "network" without generating any traffic on the network. [05:33] yes. [05:33] so if your LDAP server has a static address of 192.168.0.200, lets say [05:33] you want ldap://192.168.0.200 [05:33] even in the ldap.conf file on the server? [05:34] or just on the client. [05:34] no, the ldap.conf file on the SERVER can reference 127.0.0.1, since it's on the SAME BOX. [05:34] got it. [05:37] Thanks again! [05:41] Wait! I need to have DCHP running on the server to assign an IP to the client as well...right? [05:45] The client's a client with a hard drive? [05:46] if so, just asign it a static ip address, different than the server, on the same subnet [05:57] ok...simpler...long term I'll need DHCP to work, not now. [06:10] ok, so I'm looking through a lot of cool content tools for education [06:10] and I'm wondering why we don't have them === Starting logfile irclogs/edubuntu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #edubuntu === Topic for #edubuntu: Order: http://shipit.edubuntu.org || Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu || http://www.edubuntu.org | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuWiki | MEETING: every Wednesday see http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuMeetingAgenda | feisty (7.04) is released ! grab it while its hot ! http://www.edubuntu.org/Download | Upgraders see: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuLTSPUpgradeNotes === Topic (#edubuntu): set by ogra at Fri Apr 20 12:03:08 2007 === andrupal_ [n=chatzill@user-12ld7dv.cable.mindspring.com] has left #edubuntu [] [06:41] man I love shell scripts === jbrefort [n=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-245-134-24.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [08:11] g'monday morning [08:14] hi [08:15] hi RichEd [08:15] hi jsgotangco & LaserJock [08:15] sup [08:15] jsgotangco: how's the career situation ? [08:16] RichEd: not bad, i'm at the office now (which is my bedroom) [08:16] jsgotangco: how's the early morning commute ? [08:17] sure i wake up, bring my daughter to school, do a morning run back home and i start working after a shower [08:17] hehe [08:17] so many trips for me though [08:24] RichEd: looking into balance of working at home [08:25] jsgotangco: can be tricky ... mostly you get sucked into *more* hours, not less than an office worker. difficult to switch off ... literally & figuratively [08:26] its a good thing we're building an office in a nearby city [08:27] because the other office is an hour away by plane heh === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #edubuntu [09:01] RichEd: ready for a long read? [09:01] LaserJock: some time today :) ... appreciated === ace_suares [n=ace@fupi.suares.an] has joined #edubuntu [09:23] RichEd: sent [09:23] RichEd: I also did some work on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JordanMantha/EdubuntuMIRCandidates today [09:23] thanks LaserJock ... will give you some feedback on both [09:24] I also managed to get some decent Edubuntu bug triage in [09:24] next is spec work, gotta get things in before Feature Freeze :/ [09:25] deadlines are quite a bit earlier in Main, I have to remind myself of that === pips1 [n=philipp@211.173.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu [09:57] good morning [10:02] hi pips1 ... got your mails thanks ... am setting aside the whole morning tomorrow to catch up on what I owe you [10:02] ok :-) [10:02] pips1: will you be at the wed meeting ? can we make 30 mins together at or around the time ? [10:03] let me check my agenda... [10:04] it's a noon time meeting. Ok, I can make time for that [10:04] what is better for you: before the meeting or towards the end? [10:05] before is good ... so we can present a united front during the meeting on community [10:05] ok, 11:30 UTC ? [10:05] how about 11:00 UTC ... then we have 30 mins to chat and then 30 mins to prep for meeting if there are any consequences ? [10:05] i.e. 11:00-11:30 pips1 and rich [10:05] ok, agreed [10:06] 11:30 pips1 is free to work [10:06] 12:00 meeting [10:06] thanks :) as usual [10:06] fine === pips1 peeks at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UES-Sevilla/Schedule for presentation slides [10:09] RichEd: if you could send me those slides (tomorrow morning?) that would be great [10:09] I can put them on the wiki page, if you are too busy [10:09] top of the list ... you and augustin [10:09] oki [10:09] will mail and add ... I need to check who else has not provided slides and chase them up [10:10] chasing up... yeah, that always takes time :-/ [10:11] ogra: ping === jinty [n=jinty@25.Red-83-56-154.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === Mirrakor [n=michael@p57B2DF5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === mpytasz [n=dduck@pc-212-51-218-194.p.lodz.pl] has joined #edubuntu === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-1543a21d195f5bb3] has joined #edubuntu [11:05] ogra: I've disabled the a52 alsa-lib plugin in the alsa-plugins source package to save 2 MB on the alternate cd image; please let me know if it presents an issue. [11:14] hmm, I must have been looking at unstripped === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-134-24.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [11:25] moquist: hi === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd [11:31] RichEd, pong [11:31] crimsun, i dont think i use it anywhere specifically === ogra sighs about the oversized CD images [11:32] ogra ... sent a /msg do you have it ? [11:33] ogra: back to your favourite pastime, juggling CD space & files ? :( [11:33] yeah [11:34] and thats the server iso ... [11:34] it should even have spare space [11:34] must find out whats wrong there especially since its only i386 === t94xr [n=gfd@60-234-134-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [12:31] pips1: hi === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.105.110] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@dsl-245-187-07.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === ubuntuers [n=bambang@125.163.222.166] has joined #edubuntu [01:05] someone could help me build an internet cafe using edubuntu? [01:07] <`6og> ubuntuers, probably depends what help you need [01:08] someone could help me build an internet cafe using edubuntu? [01:08] <`6og> ubuntuers, no === ubuntuers [n=bambang@125.163.222.166] has left #edubuntu [] === eps_ [n=bender@220-253-87-152.QLD.netspace.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@25.Red-83-56-154.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === jinty [n=jinty@25.Red-83-56-154.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.44] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow2 [n=cliebow2@c-68-37-128-111.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [03:00] Morning all [03:00] Scotti! [03:01] Morning cliebow2 [03:01] eugh. Didn't sleep a wink last night [03:01] Had another thunderstorm, layed awake and worried wether or not the aircon at work was still on [03:01] how you coming along?? i am on vacation in Jersey shore.. [03:01] we had one as well.. [03:02] i thought they were moving dumpsters at th erstaurant next dor [03:02] You see the problems I had yesterday? [03:02] no..i was travelling [03:02] Our aircon shut down in the server room [03:02] holy!! [03:02] when I got there, it was 97 F [03:02] Had a ton of broken stuff [03:03] holy!!/ [03:03] damn!! [03:03] operating systems? [03:08] everything === pauljw [n=paul@pool5.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:16] sbalneav: !!! === cliebow2_ [n=cliebow2@c-68-38-0-92.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:17] sbalneav: hope the most critical things are ok... :-/ [03:17] gotta go look n the sidewalk for warmarks === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@c-69-245-220-180.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:42] pips1: back [03:43] yeah, I got everything back online. [03:43] Always have spare hard disks and psu's on hand === aaylnx [n=aaylnx@tera-24-206-149-160.kw.tx.cebridge.net] has joined #edubuntu === pips1 nods to sbalneav [03:45] kudos [03:46] well done :-) [03:47] i'm new to edubuntu. i'm thinking about setting up a client with dual monitors. should i expect this to be a headache or are dual monitors on client pcs well supported in edubuntu? [03:49] i know will be getting better support for dual monitors so maybe that will effect edubuntu clients also. [03:50] guttsy that is. === bababian [n=google@61.144.54.52] has joined #edubuntu === t94xr [n=gfd@60-234-134-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-187-07.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A96230.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A96230.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd [04:32] aaylnx: ask in #ubuntu ... monitors is a "base level" support issue ... === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === aze [n=aze@208.78.52.89] has joined #edubuntu === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #edubuntu [05:06] RichEd, aaylnx : Dual head will be hard to configure on a thin client as the xorg.conf is regenerated every reboot, it should become easier with Gutsy and the new Xorg [05:06] well [05:06] you can easily use a static xorg.conf [05:07] just have to generate/write it === Castigador [n=Alfredo@88.Red-80-38-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:07] ogra: can we assign a different xorg.conf for each client ? [05:07] out of the box ltsp will only generate single display configurations [05:07] stgraber, sure [05:08] you can have a mac address based section for every single client in your lts.conf [05:08] ogra: right, I just didn't know you can specify a xorg.conf there [05:09] see /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client-core/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz (or ltsp-client instead in feisty and before) [05:09] XF86CONFIG_FILE [05:11] aaylnx: ^ you have your answer :) [05:15] stgraber: thanks for the info :) === mpytasz [n=dduck@staticline17096.toya.net.pl] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:46] ogra, stgraber thanks! that does pretty much answer things. === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@91.164.70.42] has joined #Edubuntu [05:52] oh, gutsy-changes seems to be working again :) === RichEd -> dinner ... see you in the morning === pitux [n=pitux@114-94-20-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu [06:28] morning Edubuntu land [06:29] ogra: I did some cleanup on gcompris [06:29] and added rasmol and qcad to our ~edubuntu-bugs list [06:30] thanks ! [06:30] i saw the bug work :) [06:31] yes, there were a few bugmails [06:31] most of it was just triage kind of things [06:31] not a lot of closings, unfortunately === ogra was busy playing with hal [06:32] yeah? [06:32] What's the page with bugs? [06:33] I use http://launchpad.net/~edubuntu-bugs/+packagereport [06:33] LaserJock, yep http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ltspfs-hal-root.png [06:33] sorry, that URL should be http://launchpad.net/~edubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs [06:33] ogra: interesting [06:34] so what are you going to do with that? [06:34] its only the root device yet [06:34] all ltspfs volumes will regiseter as children [06:34] *register [06:35] LaserJock: ah, sexy. [06:35] ok, I'll start wandering through some of those. === ogra wonders when vagrants talk will show up on http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2007/debconf7/low/ [06:36] oh nifty, I'll want to see that. I didn't know he was talking [06:36] qcad has a lot more bugs than I expected [06:37] quite a few crashers [06:37] https://penta.debconf.org/~joerg/events/22.en.html [06:37] "hiking the trail to LTSP 5.0 and the friends we make along the way" [06:37] *G* [06:37] beautiful title [06:37] yes [06:38] ogra: ok, I was going to start building some metapackages [06:38] cool [06:38] I wondered how you wanted them done. Do you want to use seed files? [06:38] or should I just build it "manually" [06:39] well, that would require germinate integration [06:39] i think manually should be fine [06:39] ok, that's a bit easier for me [06:40] you could look at the new control.in/control.Debian/control.Ubuntu architecture we have in ltsp and steal that [06:40] since the package lists aren't that big [06:40] ah, ok [06:40] that just uses a list attached to a variable [06:40] but we could make it a line by line list as well, similar to the seeds [06:41] well, I'll just see as I go along [06:41] I just wondered if you wanted it in the edubuntu seeds or not [06:50] i want the package in the seeds :) [06:52] the package yes ;-) [06:52] also, I last night I went through the OSV Educational apps .pdf and filled out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JordanMantha/EdubuntuMIRCandidates [06:54] there were some pretty interesting content management apps in the list that we don't have in Ubuntu [06:55] perhaps it might be a good project for some budding young MOTU Hopefuls to package some up ;-) === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:57] oh heah, bdoin is here [06:58] Hi, [06:58] something I can do ? [06:58] every time I go to say hi you've just left :-) [06:59] bdoin: over the weekend I went through all the gcompris bugs in Ubuntu [06:59] hum, your out of luck, I usually stay there too long ;) [06:59] really [07:00] I wanted to get your input on a few [07:00] sure [07:01] bug #41172 and bug #67360 [07:01] Launchpad bug 41172 in gcompris "XUBUNTU panels in Gcompris" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41172 [07:01] Launchpad bug 67360 in gcompris "GCompris Fullscreen mode causes gnome-session to end with vesa driver" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67360 [07:02] We have completly changed this code, moved from xrandr to xvidmod [07:02] it has perhaps made the bug disappear [07:03] but, it's not a GCompris bug, it's the vesa driver which is bugged [07:03] ok [07:03] that's sort of what I wanted to know [07:03] if I should close the gcompris part of the bug [07:03] and leave it as a vesa issue [07:03] what GCompris release is this bug for ? [07:04] oh geeze, probably 7.2 or 7.4 [07:04] both bugs are from 2006 [07:05] and we've just got 8.X in Feisty [07:05] at 8.2 we changed to xvidmod IIRC === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-faeebb18e1611322] has joined #edubuntu [07:07] bdoin: I'm also interested in what you think of bug #115611 [07:07] Launchpad bug 115611 in gcompris "gcompris messes up screen" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115611 [07:07] it's kind of a messy bug report [07:08] but the part where people end up with a 800x600 viewport after exiting gcompris fullscreen [07:08] it's kind of funny [07:09] there is 2 problems, the 3 screen support (xinerame) and the tuxpaint crash [07:10] I still have complaints that we crashes when tuxpaint is not installed [07:10] yes, I tried it and it didn't crash, but it just hung [07:10] and when we crashes, we catch it and do our best to set back the screen resolution [07:11] probably a regular kill (without -9) would have work regarding the screen resolution [07:11] well, I wondered if maybe we should just make tuxpaint a dependency [07:12] at least, it's an easy fix but maybe it will hurt edubuntu one cd packaging [07:12] well, we already include tuxpaint [07:13] then it's an easy fix [07:13] bdoin: ok, I've got to run to work [07:14] what's the best way of forwarding bugs onto you? I don't see any bug tracker on the gcompris site [07:14] for the xinerama, I don't know [07:15] http://gcompris.net/-Documentation,10- [07:15] How-to report a bug [07:15] I agree, it's not easy to find [07:15] bdoin: doh [07:15] ok, thanks for your help [07:16] I'll try to forward on as much as I can there [07:19] ok [07:20] I am going there, any of edubuntu team attending ? http://akademy2007.kde.org/codingmarathon/schoolday.php === someperson [n=chatzill@mercury.k-o.org] has joined #edubuntu [07:21] is this where people can ask questions? [07:22] on edubuntu [07:22] irs://freenode/ubuntu [07:22] irc://freenode/ubuntu [07:23] yes [07:23] i use an ltsp server, and everytime a thin client selects hibernate my server seems to hibernate [07:24] is there some way to disable that [07:32] It makes sense that the server gets the command and there is probably a way to disable this. what desktop are you using ? [07:32] you can disable it in gconf, but I don't really know what's the way to do the change systemwide === bdoin is developing GCompris, I don't know LTSP at all [07:33] it's in : apps/gnome-power-manager/ [07:33] you should have something like can_suspend and can_hibernate [07:33] just switch them to false and find a way to do that system wide :) === cliebow [n=cliebow@c-68-38-0-92.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:36] oh cool [07:36] great, i'll try that, thanks [07:37] np === shishirjh [n=shishir@202.70.82.40] has joined #edubuntu === gsvl [i=root@lada.kom.auc.dk] has joined #edubuntu [07:46] I was wondering. Where do i find a list of schools using Edubuntu (anyone in Denmark?)? [07:50] what is the absolute bare minimum hardware required for the thin client, and how much of RAM is needed so that the swap is not necessary === tidrion [n=cescalan@mail.ogdenpubs.com] has joined #edubuntu [07:59] what is the absolute bare minimum hardware required for the thin client, and how much of RAM is needed so that the swap is not necessary [08:01] shishirjh: writting your question won't make it being solved faster :), anyway the answer is in the minimal requirement, just let me find the page [08:02] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/HardwareRequirements === shishirjh [n=shishir@202.70.82.40] has left #edubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === shishirjh_ [n=shishir@202.70.82.40] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [08:28] ogra: Woot! Just got an email from Wouter. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [08:28] 2.9.4 upstream will have inetd back in!! === sbalneav does happy dance === cliebow [n=cliebow@c-68-38-0-92.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:32] sbalneav: rockin' [08:34] rockin' dude!!! [08:35] dudes i should say\ [08:37] ogra:so what is involved getting my endians in a row to support ppc? [08:37] Yeah, he accepted the patch upstream [08:37] he being? === cliebow cliebow looks for shalkmarks on the sidewalk === tidrion [n=cescalan@mail.ogdenpubs.com] has joined #edubuntu === tidrion [n=cescalan@mail.ogdenpubs.com] has left #edubuntu [] [08:52] LaserJock: Did a little triaging at the bugsquad [08:52] in the ltsp area mainly [08:57] sbalneav: excellent [08:57] ltsp has the most bug reports [08:57] so it's a good place to work ;-) [08:58] Bunch of them seem to be update related, others will be handled by the ldm rewrite currently underway. === georgsvl [i=root@lada.kom.auc.dk] has joined #edubuntu [09:03] Hi. Does anyone know where to find a list of schools using edubuntu? (like skolelinux.no has it). [09:04] georgsvl: I don't believe we have such a list [09:04] especially since we have no way of tracking users [09:04] Hmm.. :-( [09:04] I think it would be nice to do though [09:04] Does any one know of Danish Schools running it? [09:04] it might be something that RichEd might be interested in [09:05] We are sitting with 20 computers and a server in Aalborg, Denmark, and practising. So it would be nice to know about som schools ind Denmark. [09:06] georgsvl: I would suggest you email the edubuntu-users mailing list [09:06] LaserJock: Good idea. I will try that :-) [09:06] that would get a lot more exposure to your question :-) [09:08] LaserJock: A wiki-site etc. where you could add your school to a list, would be a nice idea :) [09:08] yes, suggest that in your email :-) [09:08] LaserJock: I'll do. [09:17] join #launchpad [09:17] blah === hilmar [i=root@lada.kom.auc.dk] has joined #edubuntu [09:17] georgsvl: Yo man! [09:35] Anyone knows how not to have a black screen wheen a terminal client is booting [09:35] I would like to have some kind of indication to the user, that the computer is working. [09:37] Hmm, you should get a bootsplash screen [09:38] unless the bootsplash program doesn't like your particular graphics card, which is possible. [09:39] Are there any particular new programs in edubuntu?? can only find the standard ubuntu files.. [09:39] *files=programs [09:40] is there a deb package? [09:40] hilmar: the Classroom Server Addon CD has most of the educational apps [09:40] ahhhh [09:41] of course === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@c-69-245-220-180.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=mario@83-131-26-186.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu [09:54] LaserJock, poke? [09:55] unpoke [09:55] sorry :) [09:55] pygi: prode [09:56] LaserJock, I wanted to bug you about sponsoring, but I found poor soul :) [09:57] heh [09:58] what? :) === Rondom [n=Rondom@p57A96230.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === aze [n=aze@208.78.52.89] has joined #edubuntu === Mirrakor [n=michael@p57B2D720.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === [mdevilz] [n=misilot@adsl-154-145-114.mco.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:17] <[mdevilz] > hey i was wondering how do i change the screen resolution for the edubuntu server? As it is quite large and unusable .. using 7.04