TheGateKeeperTm_T: chill12:14
savetheWorldTheGateKeeper: thats a hoax article by the way.12:14
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Tm_TTheGateKeeper: I'm chill (:12:15
Tm_T!away | hoisn_zZzZz12:15
ubotuhoisn_zZzZz: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines12:15
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TheGateKeepersavetheWorld: don't care, it's funny and probable true to life :/12:15
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nick_load -rs \home\nick12:17
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nick_load -rs \home\nick\xdcc\xdccklipper.mrc12:17
TeraDyneTheGateKeeper: It looks like it would have come from my hometown.12:17
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Tm_Tnick_: hum?12:17
acemoacording to KDE system guard, im using 1.8GB ram.. while i just have Kopete, Amarok, Opera and Kontact open :S12:18
Tm_Tacemo: krhm12:18
juan278when i try and compile summit i get " Can't find X includes." what should i do is there a package i can install12:18
Tm_Tacemo: look the lowest part of that meter12:19
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savetheWorldTheGateKeeper: the funny part would have been when the police arrested him for filing a false report which is a prosecutable offense designed for exactly this type of abuse.12:19
Tm_Tacemo: OR use "free -m" in konsole12:19
Tm_TsavetheWorld: TheGateKeeper: -offtopic please12:19
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Tm_Tacemo: and look -/+ line12:19
savetheWorldfrom snopes.com : Despite claims of this story's having been run in the Meridian Mississippi Star, searches through the online Not a happy camper archives of that paper fail to turn up the piece. Moreover, the writing style used in the item should discourage anyone from believing a journalist penned it.12:19
savetheWorldTm_T: sure.12:19
athenaf***, I can't get my repository set up right....12:19
acemoacemo@acemo:~$ free -m12:20
acemo             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached12:20
acemoMem:          2026       1855        170          0        113       131412:20
acemo-/+ buffers/cache:        427       159812:20
acemoSwap:         1906         43       186312:20
Tm_T!pastebin | acemo12:20
narcispyis there a way you can bring back up what you pasted previously in the pastebin?12:20
ubotuacemo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:20
Tm_Tnarcispy: hum, they do disappear?12:21
narcispyi dunno, im just saying can i pull up my name and see what i posted previously12:21
narcispysince I lost my link to them on another partition12:21
Tm_Tdepends pastebin site possibly, I don't know12:21
narcispythats what im asking12:21
Sannejuan278: try libx11-dev, and if that's not enough, xorg-dev12:22
narcispyif that site allows for that, just wondering i would think so since it asks your name12:22
acemoTm_T: http://rafb.net/p/wvWBPC82.html output from free -m12:22
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Tm_Tacemo: yes, that says you use ~430 MB ram + cache&buffers12:22
acemoahh.. so its like linux doesnt cleans the memory when it doesnt needs to?12:24
Tm_Tacemo: well, yes12:24
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Tm_Tacemo: or you rather keep your ram unused (and read disks instead)12:24
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acemoTm_T: great, i was getting scared.. since my friend only used 500MB and mine used 1.8GB while i got almost nothing open, glad it doesnt really uses that much12:25
Tm_Tacemo: heh12:25
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Dusk_when i installed binary ati driver with apt-get do i need to configure xorg.conf anyway??12:25
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psicobraok so what are the best sources to add to the repository? i need to add a few progs that arent in the list?12:26
strtochar[] Is there a command line version of Limewire or something similar?12:26
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Tm_TDusk_: propably12:26
psicobrathat was directed at any one12:26
ardchoilleDusk_: You need to run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg         and choose the nvidia driver instead of the nv or whatever you're using now. Then restart x.12:26
TheGateKeeperDusk_: I would think so you do for nvidia12:26
Tm_T!repositories | psicobra12:27
ubotupsicobra: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:27
Tm_Ttitans: got it?12:27
TheGateKeeperDusk_: ^^^^12:27
Dusk_TheGateKeeper: not nvidia ati12:28
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ardchoilleDusk_: I misread you, sorry about that.12:28
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TheGateKeeperDusk_: yes but you will still have to do something see the ubotu meg12:28
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TheGateKeeperDusk_: I was just saying if nvidia needs you to do something then ati will also12:29
Tm_Thello geila12:29
psicobraTm_T: those instructions dont work12:30
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Tm_Tpsicobra: hum?12:30
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Dusk_Open the restricted drivers manager included in 7.04 "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver". This will hopefully enable fglrx in a painless way. If not, follow the instructions for Edgy.12:30
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Dusk_no need to configure xorg.conf for directrendering?12:31
Tm_Tpsicobra: what you mean?12:31
TheGateKeeperDusk_: try that first, should sort things out, if not take a closer look at xorg.conf12:31
Dusk_TheGateKeeper: ok thanks12:32
zipperWhat do i need in order to be able to use the lyrics thingie in amarok? I click the "Run script manager" - but nothing happens. What am i supposed to install?12:32
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins12:32
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Dusk_in kubuntu no firefox??12:33
Tm_TDusk_: not by default, and why should be12:33
Dusk_by default?12:33
strtochar[] Is there a command line version of Limewire or something similar?12:33
Tm_Tso, you can install, but it's not there in default install12:33
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dwidmannunderdog5004: oh, and you do know that you don't have to cat the file to be able to grep it right? (or maybe not), you can grep the file directly02:34
underdog5004oh, cool02:34
underdog5004I'm going to try it tonight...gotta go eat dinner w/ gf and family...thanks for the help...02:34
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dwidmannunderdog5004: the "if" line makes me wonder too02:35
underdog5004yeah...I'm totally new to shell scripting02:36
jpmaideni have a problems wuith ark02:36
jpmaidenhelp me please02:36
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DanaKilexplain your problem then :)02:36
gregfinally got nvidia drivers to work:)02:36
DanaKilwith envy ?02:36
DanaKilnice script02:36
gregthats three blue screens02:36
gregi went through today and then i used envy02:37
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gregso now i just installed ubuntu and i just installed my video drivers02:37
greganything else i will need?02:37
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dwidmannunderdog5004: personally I hate using shellscripts ... I avoid them and use python even if it doesn't make 100% sense to ...02:37
jpmaidenno hay ndie que hable espaol??02:37
DanaKilyou need to install all multimedia things (flash player, codecs...)02:37
DanaKilthere is repository specialised to multimedia things02:38
DanaKilhave you enabled the restricted repository in adept ?02:38
gregi dont think so02:38
greg this my first time using linux02:38
DanaKil"kdesu adept_manager"02:39
DanaKiland you can activates some supplementary repository02:39
gregit says its not installe dyet02:39
greginstalled yet02:39
DanaKildo you use ubuntu or kubuntu ?02:39
DanaKiloh, it's maybe a kubuntu apps, i never use ubuntu02:40
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DanaKil(don't like gnome at all)02:40
devnullAny way to downgrade xorg to 7.1?02:40
gregwhats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu02:40
darkriftanyone here who can help me figure out how to get this partition resized?02:40
DanaKilubuntu use Gnome and kubuntu use KDE02:41
devnullgreg: kubuntu uses kde, ubuntu uses gnome02:41
Dragnslcrgreg- Kubuntu uses KDE by default, Ubuntu uses Gnome by default02:41
devnullonly as defaults, both are extendible to each other.02:41
DanaKiland KDE is soooo sexy !02:41
gregwhat is better kde or gnome?02:41
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DanaKildepends on your need02:41
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devnullkde has a more familiar feel to it if you come from windows02:41
gregi want the sexy looking beryl02:41
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DanaKilyou can have beryl on the both02:41
darkriftyour in a kde channel..... most ppl here wont vite for gnome02:41
gregand the cool looking toys02:41
DragnslcrCompiz and Beryl both run in KDE and Gnome02:41
darkriftvite = vote*02:42
DragnslcrAnd I think Xfce as well02:42
gregcan someone link me to the kubuntu02:42
DanaKilyou can install "kubuntu-desktop"02:42
DanaKiland then choose between gnome or kde at the login screen02:42
gregoh sweet02:43
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gregwill i have to reinstall everything>?02:43
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gregk iam on the kubuntu download page02:44
gregjust download the full cd again?02:44
devnullI'm more of an advanced user myself (coming from gentoo), and I highly like *ubuntu02:44
DanaKilno, you can just "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-destkop"02:44
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DanaKilno need to download or burn a CD02:44
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gregit didnt work02:45
greg it says02:45
Schuenemannhi, I want to upgrade from edgy to feisty. I already downloaded feisyt. What is my best option?02:45
gregcouldnt find package02:45
gregoh you spelt it wnrog02:45
kops_can any one help a linux noob like me? with a intel grafikproblem?02:45
DanaKiloh, sorry02:45
SchuenemannI have to format first?02:46
DanaKilSchuenemann> you can simply overwrite your current install02:46
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DanaKilSchuenemann> i hope that your home is in a separate partition ?02:46
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SchuenemannI already backed up everything I need02:47
gregok sweet its downloading02:47
intelikeyi don't have a partition02:47
DanaKilthen you can simply overwrite, the installer will format your partition02:47
=== kops_ i need help with a intel grafikcard problem can some one help me?
gregso after this update i wont have to reinstall anything?02:47
DanaKilbut if you can create a separate partition for your home, it's higly recommended02:47
DanaKilno greg, it's the same "linux" but two different OS02:47
jeff_i'm trying to mount a usb hdd (ntfs), but all efforts return "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" ;02:48
jeff_any ideas? ;\02:48
greglinux looks so sexy in youtube... but kinda complicated to get working02:48
DanaKilno jeff_ , sorry02:48
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DanaKilgreg> yes, i must admit that it was very hard for me at first but now, i'm in love02:48
intelikeyjeff_ maybe add your self to the 'hal' group ?02:49
greghaha, but linux gives you total control02:49
intelikeyor hald02:49
DanaKilgreg> once you have learn some tricks and you have a well configured system, it's a bliss to use :)02:49
jeff_maybe. i'm a newb. where do i add myself to the hal group?02:49
gregya. i was on earlier and someone told me just to sit in this chat room and i will learn alot02:49
intelikeyjeff_ kmenu - system settings - users & groups02:50
DanaKilgreg> the best thing is to try things yourself... how to compile apps, learn tutorial, etc...02:50
intelikeynot sure how your menu is setup02:50
gregi just wanna get it all set up today02:51
intelikeygreg if you sit in here and try to help others it will force a learning curve02:51
a-865anyone know what the daemon is called to make gtk apps like firefox use the KDE specified system fonts?02:51
MinatakuI tend to force a learning curve on everyone else02:51
MinatakuWhat with my CLI-based solutions02:52
intelikeyMinataku oh really...02:52
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darkrift1k users in #ubuntu and nobody there can help me either :(02:52
Minatakuintelikey: I've confused many a person in here02:52
DanaKila-865> it's a daemon ? you can set something like that in kcontrol / Appearence / GTK style and police02:52
intelikeydarkrift what it is ?02:52
MinatakuBut then I'm a rather confusing person overall02:53
darkriftunable to resize my ntfs partition02:53
darkriftit has a lock and an ! next to it02:53
darkriftunable to find mountpoint02:53
a-865DanaKil: intelikey I know to set it there, but wondered what that is controlling02:53
darkrifti tried unmounting it in konq with no luck02:53
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intelikeydarkrift my advice would be boot win to safe mode and scandisk + defrag   then try with *parted02:54
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darkrifti was avoiding booting windows02:54
bryanIf I use my pictures for the screen saver it keeps freezing in a picture.  What could cause the issue?02:54
darkriftwish there was a linux windows defragger02:54
DragnslcrWhile we're talking about partitioning, I need a quick sanity check02:54
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=== kops_ how do i use git-line command on kubuntu
intelikeyyeah but if it's a data at end of fs issue darkrift you haven't much choice02:55
gregok... so i downloaded it all it say'd  it was setting it all up an dnow its at my greg@greg again now what?02:55
jeff_intelikey: i went into group settings and added my user to the haldaemon group, but the drive still fails to mount.02:55
crocodileI want to run 'compiz --replace' on KDE startup.. I know it goes in ~/.kde/Autostart/ but I don't know how to actually add the command.  Help please?02:55
intelikeyjeff_ same error ?02:55
DanaKilgreg> you can select which os to use at the graphical login prompt02:55
DragnslcrSince I wasn't smart enough to create a separate partition for /home, I'd like to create a new partition out of the existing one without losing any data. gparted can handle that, right?02:55
gregit did that02:56
greg so now i just restart?02:56
greg or did it all install?02:56
DanaKilgreg> i think it's ok02:56
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gregok brb restarting02:56
DanaKiljust do a ctrl alt backsapce02:56
Dragnslcrcrocodile- I'm using Beryl right now, and I just put a symlink to beryl-manager in .kde/Autostart02:56
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intelikeyjeff_ ok open a konsole and do this;  dmesg | tail      and pastebin the results02:56
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Dragnslcrcrocodile- if Compiz doesn't have the same kind of manager program, you can just create a bash script02:57
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intelikey!paste | jeff_02:57
ubotujeff_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:57
Dragnslcrcompiz --replace02:57
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bryanany one?02:57
DragnslcrAnd make sure that the file is executable02:57
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DanaKilbtw, i followed this tutorial to have the latest compiz-fusion, and it was ok02:58
crocodileDragnslcr: how do I do that exactly?02:58
gregoh wow02:58
gregkde looks nice02:58
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SchuenemannDanaKil, sorry, I had problems02:58
intelikeybryan bug in xsreensaver ?02:58
Dragnslcrcrocodile- make the file? You can just use Kate02:58
callen81is there a known bug with realtek gigabit nics02:58
crocodileright but what goes in it I mean02:58
Schuenemannso, I should overwrite? that will erase everything this current installation has?02:58
DanaKilgreg> actually, i think the default theme of kde is ugly but it's higly customizable :)02:58
jeff_what do you want me to paste? dmesg?02:58
intelikey!paste | jeff_02:59
ubotujeff_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:59
intelikeyjeff_ ok open a konsole and do this;  dmesg | tail      and pastebin the results02:59
gregwhat msn program do yo use in linux that looks sexy also:)02:59
Schuenemanngreg, amsn02:59
DanaKilincluded in kde02:59
Dragnslcrcrocodile- those two lines I gave you before02:59
Dragnslcrcompiz --replace02:59
callen81amsn for the win02:59
gregit pretty sweet?02:59
bryanintellikey  ?02:59
crocodileDragnslcr: and then save the file in .kde/autostart ?02:59
Schuenemannwell, it's the nicer one I've found02:59
DanaKilgreg> well, try both02:59
Schuenemanntry all you can03:00
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:00
DragnslcrKopete is nice. Not quite as mature as Gaim yet, but getting there quickly03:00
DanaKilgreg> kopete is installed by default in kde03:00
Schuenemanngaim, kopete, amsn03:00
Dragnslcrcrocodile- yup03:00
devnullgaim now = pidgin.03:00
DragnslcrYeah, but Pidgin hasn't made it to the repository yet03:00
SchuenemannDanaKil, sorry, just to clarify: overwriting this installation will erase everything, right?03:00
callen81if you like how msn works/looks in windows then go amsn03:00
intelikeybryan well it could.   i have used the slideshow feature and personal photos in the screensaver, no issues with dapper....  so maybe it's a bug in your version ?03:00
DragnslcrIt still has Gaim 2.0b603:00
DanaKilSchuenemann> yes03:01
crocodileDragnslcr: chmod 755 it right?03:01
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bryanintelikey-  what can I do?03:01
Schuenemannalrite, I guess I'll try that03:01
DanaKilSchuenemann> the installer will erase the root partition but if you have a separated home, it can let it unformated and mount it for your new install03:01
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DanaKilSchuenemann> and try do a separate home, it's really better03:02
Dragnslcrcrocodile- maybe 744 if there are other users and/or servers on your system03:02
Schuenemannok... I'll format everything03:02
Dragnslcrcrocodile- anything above 500 should work03:02
Schuenemannwhy would I need 2 homes?03:02
DanaKilbecause when you reinstall, you can let all your files on this home partition03:02
intelikeyjeff_ in that konsole type this;  sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sdc /media              and tell me what it says03:02
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DanaKiland do whatever you want with the root parttion03:02
SchuenemannI prefer to remove all tracks of this installation03:02
DragnslcrDanaKil- since you seem to know all about this, I have a question03:03
SchuenemannI guess I'll install and try opensolaris too03:03
crocodileDragnslcr: ok, gonna restart and see if this works03:03
jeff_it's asking for the filesys type.03:03
DanaKilmoreover, all your settings are in your home partition, so if you do a fresh install of ubuntu and mount your old home, you have all your settings (backgrounds, application settings...)03:03
Dragnslcrcrocodile- you should be able to just log out and log back in03:03
intelikeyjeff_ k.03:03
crocodilethats what i meant :)03:03
intelikeyjeff_ in that konsole type this;  sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sdc1 /media              and tell me what it says  note the added '1'03:03
SchuenemannDanaKil, can't I just backup ~/.kde/ and then overwrite?03:03
DanaKilyes Schuenemann, i think it's ok03:04
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DanaKilbut there are some other hidden directory, maybe you can save them too03:04
DragnslcrDanaKil- since I was too stupid to partition my drive and am going to install i386 instead of amd64, should I be able to use gparted to cut a new partition out of the existing one without losing any data?03:04
jeff_it worked. thanks a lot, intelikey. :D03:04
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DragnslcrThen install to the new partition and mount the existing partition to /home03:05
Dragnslcr(and move some files a bit, obviously03:05
Schuenemannok, I'll try it03:05
mtvwhen i go to setup my printer my backend are all greyed out with the exception of samba and other.  What is wrong?03:05
intelikeyjeff_ let me caution you about writing to ntfs without ntfs-3g  or fuse    it's dangerous.03:05
SchuenemannDanaKil, see you in another life, brother03:05
DanaKilDragnslcr> well, I rarely use qparted so I don't know what it can do ^^03:05
jeff_but reading is safe?03:05
DanaKilbye Schuenemann03:05
intelikey!ntfs-3g | jeff_03:06
ubotujeff_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions03:06
intelikeyjeff_ yeah should be.03:06
jeff_it's basically full of a bunch of videos/music that i want to play.03:06
DanaKilreading is safe03:06
Schuenemannoops, I almost forgot to backup my xorg.conf03:06
kops_i need help i need to upgrade me kernel to 2.6 i got kubuntu 7.04 buth a driver say that i dont have the lates kernel? how do i update it??03:06
DragnslcrDanaKil- I'm pretty sure gparted is on the live discs, so I would use that03:06
DragnslcrI thought 7.04 has the 2.6 kernel already?03:06
DanaKilI think that ntfs write will be activated by default on the next ubuntu version, since the ntfs driver is at 1.0 version03:07
greghow in kubuntu how do i activate mymultimedia?03:07
intelikeyDanaKil "maybe" safe.  he is mounted rw and full perms  so a read could invoke a write and make it unsafe03:07
kops_Dragnslcr: yes i did think that to03:07
DanaKiloh, then yes, you should mount it as read only03:07
kops_Dragnslcr: this is what i get03:07
kops_The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules.03:07
kops_Installation will be aborted. See the dri.log file for information on03:07
kops_what went wrong03:07
DragnslcrOh, I don't think it means you need a newer kernel, it means you need the right modules03:08
intelikeyjeff_ when finished with that drive, issue this command;  sudo umount /media         and you can unplug it or what ever.03:08
jeff_will it mount automatically on boot?03:08
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DanaKilgreg> http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html  take a look here03:08
kops_Dragnslcr okey buth what do i need then?03:08
intelikeyjeff_ no.   i didn't fix it.  i only manually mounted it.03:09
kops_or how do i found out what i need03:09
Dragnslcrkops_- dunno, depends on what you're trying to install03:09
kops_intel grafikdrivers03:09
DragnslcrMight have to check Intel's web site03:09
DragnslcrI thought the repositories had Intel drivers though03:09
DanaKilgreg> it's an unofficial faqs with a lot of useful things03:09
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gregk checking it out03:10
jeff_intelikey: i had ntfs-g3 prior, but the tool wouldn't detect the drive.03:10
kops_Dragnslcr a site sayd that i need to get the drivers to get 3d output.03:10
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mindslantwhile trying to work on something else, I think I messed up my CD-Rom's mount settings.  It's no longer enabled.  I'm in the disk settings (kubuntu) and can't tell what I changed that dis-enabled it.03:10
kops_i got a laptop im new in linux. buth dont want to use windows shit edition:P03:10
mindslantanyone familiar with what the defualt settings for the cd-rom should be03:11
Dragnslcrkops_- try xserver-xorg-video-intel package, maybe03:11
intelikeyjeff_ the problem with usb is that the device changes if you plug it in other ports and/or other things are plugged first.      you can use the blkid of the fs as a mount device in /etc/fstab if you want to set that up.03:11
DragnslcrI just searched Adept for 'intel' and that's the closest thing I see03:11
kops_okey i try that Dragnslcr thx03:11
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kops_okey thanks i try. it can only and with 2 things work or not work:D03:13
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brian__anyone here have experiance mounting a maxtor usb drive?03:15
intelikeyjeff_ the line would look something like this, example only: >>>> UUID="8c1d2968-ff59-4fdf-81ca-6f03e1d5fc3a" /media/usb_drive ntfs-g3 noauto,user,users,fmask=111,dmask=000 0 0  <<<<    you can get the actual blkid for the command by the same name "blkid "03:15
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brian__well any large usb drive03:16
jeff_intelikey: the trailing 0 is the value i need to change?03:16
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intelikeyjeff_ that line in /etc/fstab would set it up so any user could just say   mount /media/usb_drive   and the thing should mount.03:16
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intelikeywith full read/write permissions   ^03:17
crocodileDragnslcr: okay it works, but I put 2 commads in the bash script and it's only running one.  How do I separate 2 commands?03:17
Dragnslcrcrocodile- normally just put them on separate lines03:18
kops_Dragnslcr it worked thanks 4 the help.03:18
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crocodilehm that's what I did03:18
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Dragnslcrkops_- no problem. I'm amazed I guessed right03:18
jeff_intelikey: i tried to add that line to /etc/fstab but it's complaining about being unable to make a backup of the original.03:18
kops_Dragnslcr well its working and no i can run beryl:D03:19
jeff_. . .when saving.03:19
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intelikeyjeff_ then if it were a box i had to admin for someone that liked the gui i would put a small shell script on their desktop that they could click and it would mount/umount the thing.03:19
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DragnslcrYeah, Beryl is nice and shiny03:19
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intelikeyjeff_ to edit system files   "anything in /etc" you must be root.   so kdesu kate /etc/fstab03:19
kops_Dragnslcr yeah. its so damn nice:D i just love it. is im sick if im in love with beryl?:D03:19
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crocodilecompiz fusion beats beryl so far from what I've done with compfusion:)03:19
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ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo03:20
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Dragnslcrcrocodile- that's because Fusion is the successor to Beryl03:20
DanaKilthe new expos mode of compiz-fusion is just... hmm03:20
raschkomy Maxtor external drive doesn't want to appear, any ideas anyone?03:20
DragnslcrI'm gonna try out Fusion when I switch my system over to i386 instead of amd6403:20
DanaKilhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w  (i repost this link to compiz-fusion)03:20
kops_Dragnslcr i need help with 1 more think:P it says that i have 12 desktops:P03:21
intelikeyjeff_ and do be sure you use the blkid for the fs you wish to mount   and not the blkid that i posted03:21
mtvi would appreciate any help i can get on installing this x1150 lexmark printer.  I have recently upgraded from dapper, in which it was working.  I cannot install a new printer via the system settings-printers.  The option is greyed out03:21
Dragnslcrkops_- heh, you probably have 2 or 3 desktops set in KDE, plus all of the cube faces03:22
intelikeyit's right nigh impossable that  UUID="8c1d2968-ff59-4fdf-81ca-6f03e1d5fc3a"  exists on your box03:22
Dragnslcrkops_- you can knock down KDE's desktops to 103:22
kops_now att the meny. its 12 boxes03:22
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jeff_intelikey: blkid only returns TYPE="ntfs" for /dev/sdc103:23
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intelikeyjeff_ sudo rm /etc/blkid ;blkid03:23
kops_Dragnslcr noo it @ the menu it says i got 12 desktops:P :(03:23
intelikeyjeff_ sudo rm /etc/blkid* ;blkid03:23
intelikeyi forgot the star...03:23
Dragnslcrkops_- in KDE's system settings?03:23
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kops_Dragnslcr hmm i dont know i should check03:24
kops_Dragnslcr there it says 3 hmm03:25
DragnslcrYou probably want to set the number of desktops in KDE's settings to 1, then you can set whatever you want for cube faces in Beryl's settings03:25
ubuntuis there a sw to recover hd?03:25
intelikey!testdisk | ubuntu03:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about testdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:25
intelikey!info testdisk | ubuntu03:25
ubotuubuntu: testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB03:25
mtvi am getting a "backend error handler." how do i overcome this?03:26
jeff_intelikey: blkid now still returns      /dev/sdc1: TYPE="ntfs"03:26
kops_Dragnslcr ahh thanks know its 4:D03:26
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intelikeyjeff_ no id at all ???03:27
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jeff_previously, blk id returned /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb1, and /dev/sda5 as well, but not anymore.03:27
intelikeysudo blkid03:28
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jeff_intelikey: all right. the other devices are back, but sdc1 still lacks an id.03:28
kops_Dragnslcr well thx for the help maybe not a big deal 4 u buth it was 4 me03:29
intelikeyjeff_ i'm at a loss,   i dont do windows so i've never seen that...03:29
ubuntudoes the testdisk works with nfts partition?03:29
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Dragnslcrkops_- no problem, that's what we're here for03:29
intelikeyand i have nothing to test there      sorry,   maybe someone else can help with a  BLKID ?03:30
intelikeyJucato ?03:30
intelikeyabrahao yes it should03:30
jeff_intelikey: i wish i hadn't done windows in the first place; then i wouldn't be in this mess :p thanks anyway.03:30
kops_Dragnslcr yeah thats true=) hmm maybe get some sleep now.03:31
intelikeyjeff_ any way you can temporarrily move the files to some other disk ?   you could format that drive and put them back...  just a thought03:31
Dragnslcrkops_- don't mind if I do03:32
mtvhow do i figure out what usblp0 in /dev is attached to?03:32
jeff_intelikey: there's about 400GB of media on there. i don't have another huge drive.03:32
kops_hmm weird when i try to play a movie vlc closes hmm03:32
intelikeyjeff_ ouch03:32
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jeff_i have my disc backups. i guess i'll reformat the drive and recover from them. ...that won't be a fun day.03:33
kops_Dragnslcr i need help with something more hmm03:33
intelikeyjeff_ well.  give me a second and i'll work you up a script that will make using that drive easier.03:33
kops_03.32.52: xine: couldn't find demux for >/home/kops/Desktop/High Octane 4 -GREENCOR.avi<03:33
kops_03.32.52: xine: found input plugin : file input plugin03:33
jeff_okay. thanks.03:33
intelikeyjeff_ if you want ?03:33
jeff_intelikey: yeah, that'd work great for the time being.03:34
intelikeyk it will take a minute i need to do one other thing first.03:34
Dragnslcrkops_- missing decoder maybe? I'm not really sure03:34
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kops_hmm i tryd in vlc buth its close direct03:34
kops_try another move then03:34
intelikeyjeff_ can you pastebin the output of;   fdisk -l ;mount         for me so i'll know what other disks you have?03:35
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jeff_intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27082/03:37
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kops_well i give up 4 the day god night all03:38
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semistud2354is it possible to connect to other computers with ssh03:39
semistud2354across the internet03:40
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crocodilehow do I use the zooming of compiz?03:40
semistud2354like that03:41
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semistud2354or do i need to add something03:41
doneillwell, you could specify your password too03:42
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doneillbut i don't think it's required03:43
semistud2354im trying to connect to my momz pc03:43
semistud2354then it asks for pass03:44
semistud2354it just says connecting for like ever03:44
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intelikeyok jeff_smoke make a new text file (called USB_Disk maybe) on your desktop and paste this into it, then make it executable.   that should make it a point and click option.    you do need ntfs-3g installed for this to work.03:44
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intelikeyok jeff_smoke make a new text file (called USB_Disk maybe) on your desktop and paste this into it, then make it executable.   that should make it a point and click option.    you do need ntfs-3g installed for this to work.03:48
jeff_this = ?03:49
intelikeyjeff_ read it again.03:49
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intelikeyjeff_ put on the desktop   and see what it does.03:52
darkriftand paste this into it, <---- what is "this" ?03:53
jeff_intelikey: i opened it with konsole, and it shat itself. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27084/03:55
jeff_darkrift: he sent me a file.03:55
darkriftlol jeff_03:55
intelikeyjeff_ i see no error there.   those are wacom errors.  that's caused by wacom devices listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:57
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:57
jeff_wacom devices? like that drawing art tablet thing?03:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 169 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:57
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intelikeyyes   and there is a infonode on that but i lost it.03:58
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jeff_i don't have one of those.03:58
semistud2354man i dont know why its not working03:59
intelikeyjeff_ you can search the ubuntu wiki for the info.    they setup wacom devices in all xorg.conf files so "if you did have one" it would work.03:59
semistud2354my mom gave me her ip03:59
semistud2354and i set up her comp03:59
semistud2354so i know her computer name03:59
semistud2354and her pass03:59
semistud2354but it still says no connection03:59
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jeff_intelikey: that's the problem, though? i need to remove that from /etc/X11/xorg.conf?04:00
Dragnslcrsemistud2354- you're sure sshd is running?04:00
semistud2354the only time it worked is when i had her on the same network04:00
intelikeyjeff_ the important thing is.   did the script unmount the drive ?   and clicking it again remount it ?04:00
semistud2354just ssh04:00
semistud2354do i need it on both04:00
bryanI have a external hdd that has pictures and videos that was saved using windows xp.  When I turn the drive on it sees the partisions I made to it but will not see the rest of the files. Infact it does not even show like a USB.  What can I do?04:00
semistud2354or can i just do it on mine04:00
intelikeyjeff_ yeah if you don't want to see the error messages.  but please visit the wiki on that one. jeff_04:00
Dragnslcrsemistud2354- no, you just need sshd running on the computer you're trying to connect to04:00
semistud2354damn...my momz computer illiterate04:01
semistud2354is there any setting up04:01
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Dragnslcrsemistud2354- there may also be a firewall blocking connections04:01
semistud2354can i connect thrue krdc04:01
darkriftok, q: every time i run a gui app from console, i get this error (even in xchat using /exec) http://pastebin.ca/58776204:02
Dragnslcrsemistud2354- the package that has sshd is openssh-server04:02
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semistud2354so i would need sshd on my momz comp in order for me to connect to her desktop04:02
semistud2354and like move her mouse n stuff04:02
intelikeydarkrift wacom04:03
DragnslcrNo, remote desktop would probably be VNC04:03
jeff_intelikey: negative. :(04:03
DragnslcrDepending on what OS she's using04:03
semistud2354i just want to get something off of her comp04:03
semistud2354thats the main thing04:03
intelikeyjeff_ you have ntfs-3g installed ?04:03
semistud2354so what do i need for that04:03
semistud2354just sshd04:03
semistud2354and thats all??04:04
jeff_according to adept.04:04
DragnslcrLike I said, it depends on what operating system it is and what you need to do04:04
bryancan anyone help me?04:04
semistud2354hers and mine are both feisty04:04
jeff_intelikey: the ntfs-config package.04:04
semistud2354ok...so she gets sshd04:04
dthackerbryan: not until you ask your question.....04:05
jeff_intelikey: maybe a reinstall would help?04:05
semistud2354and thats it i connect get my files and thats it04:05
DragnslcrHers would need to be running sshd if you need shell access04:05
intelikeyjeff_ you know you can't mount or umount an fs that something is accessing the mountpoint ?        and that's ntfs-3g04:05
DragnslcrYou should be able to copy files over ssh using scp04:05
bryanI did but I'll post it again04:05
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions04:05
bryanI have a external hdd that has pictures and videos that was saved using windows xp.  When I turn the drive on it sees the partisions I made to it but will not see the rest of the files. Infact it does not even show like a USB.  What can I do?04:05
intelikey!info ntfs-3g04:05
ubotuntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB04:05
semistud2354by running it do you mean she goes into adept types sshd and then i connect04:05
semistud2354if she finds those files "pics" im screwed04:06
Dragnslcrsemistud2354- the package is called openssh-server04:06
semistud2354then it installs04:06
semistud2354i connect04:06
DragnslcrIt should start sshd when you install it04:06
semistud2354and get my pictures04:06
Dragnslcrnetstat could tell you for sure04:06
jeff_intelikey: when i run the configuration tool, the drive isn't listed.04:07
dthackerbryan: sorry, I don't use Windows04:07
bryani'll try it out. thanks guys04:07
bryandthacker:  never?04:08
dthackeronly at work, and then only because I have to use MS-Exchange through a terminal server.   I have a windows free house.04:08
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intelikeyjeff_ you shouldn't need/want to run a comfiguration tool,    sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g                     humor me :)04:10
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jeff_intelikey: 'ntfs-3g is already the newest version.'04:12
semistud2354i just called04:12
semistud2354openssh is installed04:12
intelikeyjeff_ and;  ls /media/usb_hd04:13
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intelikeyempty ?04:13
semistud2354so i was having those trobles04:13
devnullis there a config utility for compiz ?04:13
semistud2354and it was installed all along04:13
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jeff_intelikey: no such file or directory.04:13
semistud2354whats the matter04:14
intelikeyjeff_ and; run the script and try again   same message ?04:14
semistud2354i already had openssh-server installed04:14
semistud2354what command do i need to type to connect to my momz comp04:14
semistud2354is it still fish04:14
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devnullblah if anyone answered I missed it04:15
jeff_intelikey: same message. no drive.04:15
Dragnslcrsemistud2354- open Konsole and type 'ssh a.b.c.d'04:15
DragnslcrObviously using a real IP address04:15
intelikey<jeff_> intelikey: no such file or directory.  <<< not the same as >>>> <jeff_> intelikey: same message. no drive.       can you explain ?    what does; ls /media/usb_hd     say now ?04:16
DragnslcrIf it doesn't ask for a username and password, something is blocking the connection04:16
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jeff_ls /media/usb_hd            returned no such file or directory04:16
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semistud2354now what04:16
jeff_while the shell script still returns the same error message that it did before.04:16
DragnslcrDid it ask for a username and password?04:16
DragnslcrDid the connection time out?04:17
devnullis there a compiz config utility?04:17
semistud2354i just sat there04:17
semistud2354nothing happend04:18
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semistud2354she has openssh04:18
semistud2354i have it04:18
semistud2354we both have ssh04:18
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intelikeyjeff_ that's no possable if you are running the script i sent you.   unless your kdesu is borked.     in konsole; kdesu echo boo04:18
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darkriftthat didnt go as planned04:19
intelikeyjeff_  kdesu echo boo ?04:19
Dragnslcrsemistud2354- Check netstat -lt on her computer, make sure sshd is running04:19
darkrifti commented out the 3 sections for tablet only features04:19
darkriftthen restarted x04:19
jeff_intelikey: boo was indeed echoed, but before it was, the same errors that i get with your shell script came up.04:19
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semistud2354how do you make shure sshd is running04:20
intelikeydarkrift you missed the referances in the server layout section04:20
darkriftit wouldnt load, so i looked at it again.... deleted the lines isntead of commenting... still wouldnt load so i looked harder... there was an init section at the bottom that still referenced those 3 devies :S04:20
Dragnslcrsemistud2354- by seeing if anything is listening on port 2204:20
darkrifti HATE VIM04:20
semistud2354is that a websight04:20
DragnslcrNo, it's a command04:21
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darkriftwhere can in find a command line editor that is somewhat easy to use like old school msdos's edit.com lol04:21
darkriftsome things in dos were soo much easier04:21
intelikeyjeff_ the error messages from wacom can be ignored.       how are you calling that script ?   desktop icon click to run ?    konsole  ./USB      how?04:21
Dragnslcrdarkrift- nano is pretty simple04:22
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darkriftthats prob what im used to from freebsd04:22
darkriftsounds familliar04:22
Dragnslcrdarkrift- definitely easier to use than vi* or emacs04:22
semistud2354port 2204:22
intelikeydarkrift but; "if you make it idiot proff, they'll just make a better idiot"   :)04:22
semistud2354it just gives a butt load of information04:23
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darkrifti want something that im used to, ctrl+f is file menu etc04:23
semistud2354maby im just typing it in wrong04:23
darkrifterm, alt-f04:23
Dragnslcrsemistud2354- netstat -lt shouldn't list that many programs04:23
dick-richardsonis plasma enabled in gutsy tribe 1?04:23
darkriftalt+x is quit (asks to save) blah blah04:23
Dragnslcrsemistud2354- unless the computer is running 20 different servers04:23
intelikeydarkrift pico04:23
jeff_intelikey: i added executable permissions and ran it in konsole.04:23
Jucatodick-richardson: KDE 4 won't be default in gutsy04:23
darkriftpico is nano, isnt it?04:23
semistud2354i just installed ssh04:24
semistud2354and just now openssh04:24
semistud2354and still nothing04:24
Dragnslcrdarkrift- the commands are different, but nano should work for you04:24
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darkrifti c04:24
Dragnslcrdarkrift- and yeah, nano is the successor to pico04:24
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intelikeyjeff_ these are the first two lines in that script.   Q="/media/usb_hd"04:24
intelikey[ ! -d $Q ]  && kdesu mkdir -p $Q04:24
semistud2354i type fish://johnsmithdestop@
semistud2354sould it look like that04:24
Dragnslcrsemistud2354- I have no idea. I've never seen fish:// before04:25
semistud2354what do you use04:25
DragnslcrI just use ssh for shell and scp for file transfer04:25
darkriftalso on boot, i got somethign that said sda3 had been mounted 28 times, forcing disk check..... i have no idea what sda3 is, its not in my /media folder04:25
semistud2354i type that in the address bar of konqueror04:25
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darkriftwhere could i find that out at?04:25
intelikeyand there is no way to execute that without it leaving a dir in /media/  unless you have something mounted on /media itself readonly.  and it should be umounted by the next line.  so running the command again will make the dir anyway.04:25
Dragnslcrdarkrift- sda is probably your first SATA disk04:26
darkrifti think its my linux part04:26
darkriftsda1 and 2 are my ntfs partitiions on my laptop04:26
darkriftno sata that i know of :s04:26
darkriftunless this lappy has sata and i didnt know it04:26
DragnslcrQuite possible04:26
DragnslcrMost new laptops use SATA drives04:27
darkrifti hadnt heard that04:27
darkrifti bought it for the screen :) lol04:27
darkriftshiny and widescreen :)04:27
DragnslcrMy 20" 1600x1200 LCD is better than a laptop04:27
darkriftvista looked nice too... buy was i tricked04:27
darkriftbuy = boy*04:27
intelikeyjeff_ i may not be very smart. but i know that script should work.   it's too simple not to.    if it wont work for you.   delete it and say "oh well"     hey man i tried.04:28
darkriftlets see you walk around your house with yours on though :)04:28
DragnslcrHeh, I don't04:28
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jeff_intelikey: :(04:28
darkrifti dont either04:28
darkriftbut i could :)04:28
DragnslcrI don't need my computer in my bed or in front of my television, and that's all I have for rooms in my apartment04:29
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bryanI still have the issue of not seing the external drive but I can see the partisions on dev/disk/04:29
darkrifti need to take my old laptop apart and resoldier the power connector04:29
darkriftthats all thats wrong with it04:29
intelikeyjeff_ i mean i write crap like this   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37663     so that script should work.  i'm not trying to be mean.  just  don't know what else to say.04:29
semistud2354god dammit i need to get those pictures04:30
semistud2354freakin ssh and openssh isnt alowing me to connect04:30
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Dragnslcrsemistud2354- sure there isn't a firewall blocking port 22?04:30
semistud2354i didnt put one up04:30
semistud2354does it come installed by default04:31
hitmanWillysemistud2354, do you use a router?04:31
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DragnslcrI don't believe so04:31
semistud2354no dsl04:31
intelikeysemistud2354 sshd running on the host ?    port 22 open ?04:31
semistud2354my computer is running on a router04:31
semistud2354not hers04:31
jeff_yeah, something in my install is probably fucked. ;\04:32
jeff_oh well.04:32
jeff_thanks anyway.04:32
darkriftintelikey, no offense, but i couldnt even understand that poem you pasted ;)04:32
intelikeyjeff_ sorry it didn't work out better for you.  maybe next time.04:32
intelikeydarkrift opem  lol04:32
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intelikeypoem even04:32
darkriftsomething about an arguement and answers04:33
semistud2354how do you turn off a firewall04:33
semistud2354in kubuntu04:33
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darkriftgood evening al04:33
semistud2354i didnt even know there was s firewall04:33
intelikeydarkrift gooday04:33
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).04:34
intelikeysemistud2354 if you didn't turn one on, there isn't one.04:34
tuccii just reinstalled kubuntu, added some programs, now I can't open adept or the update installer because it says another program is using the packaging system database04:34
intelikeysemistud2354 iptables -L04:34
tucciI don't see any processes open in kysysguard04:34
semistud2354ok whats that do04:35
intelikey!adeptcrashfix | tucci04:35
ubotutucci: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 04:35
semistud2354all it says is accept04:35
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semistud2354iput out put policy04:35
intelikeysemistud2354 should list the firewall(iptables) rules04:35
semistud2354no nothing04:35
intelikeythen no firewall04:35
semistud2354i need to ge those pics...im freakin out04:36
dthackersemistud: can you ping her computer?04:36
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semistud2354like that04:36
intelikeyping     if that's the ip04:36
tuccithanks intellikey04:36
intelikeytucci np04:36
Dr_willisping is faster :)04:37
semistud2354 i got info comming back04:37
abrahaohow install universe in livecd?04:37
semistud2354ok so04:37
semistud2354now what04:37
athenaquick question - everyone keeps talking about "how do I play DVDs" and the answer is always "use the libdvdcss2 crack". But is there a way to *encrypt* DVDs using CSS?04:38
dthackersemistud2354: first, make sure your computer can see hers with ping.  Next, make sure sshd is running on her machine, Third. ssh over and get your errr,umm "contraband"04:38
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semistud2354how do i ssh over04:38
hitmanWillyathena, why would you want to?04:38
dthackerssh "mom"s ip address"04:38
athenahitmanWilly, for kicks04:38
intelikeyabrahao konsole sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list       add universe to the end of the first  deb* line   save and exit   sudo apt-get update04:38
semistud2354in conquero04:38
hitmanWillyathena, not that i know of04:38
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semistud2354or konsole04:39
dthackersemistud2354: konsole04:39
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athenahitmanWilly, that's no fun :-(04:39
athenamaybe I ought to write my own04:39
dick-richardso1is there a setting in kubuntu to enable desktop effects?04:39
Dr_willisi recall some discussion about - what if a virus writer enccrypted his virus with the dcss encryption... would it be against the DMCA to decode it. :)04:39
athenadick-richardso1, yes, go to autostart and add "compiz" to it04:39
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dick-richardso1athena: easy enough. thank you :)04:40
intelikeyDr_willis lol04:40
semistud2354do i type in the name of her computer04:40
intelikeyye ha04:40
semistud2354or just mom04:40
athenaDr_willis, the answer is yes, but since the virus is illegal to distribute it's not terribly relevant.04:40
bryanNow I get the error hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 100004:40
semistud2354as her login name04:40
hitmanWillyathena, go for it, but its kinda against my anti-drm policy04:40
MinatakuHeya, Dr_willis, what's up? :304:40
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intelikeyDRM = eval04:41
hitmanWillyathena, i doubt it04:41
dthackersemistud2354: ssh will try to login as you.  do you have an account on mom's pc?04:41
hitmanWillykinda against the ubuntu policies as well04:41
athena"libcss - a portable layer for encryption using the well proven CSS algorithm" - I'd just love to see that in apt-cache..04:41
Dr_willisssh -L whoever04:41
MinatakuUnder the DMCA, isn't ANY encryption routine illegal to break?04:41
intelikeyabrahao welcome04:41
athenahitmanWilly, why? we have gpg, how's it any different?04:41
semistud2354so wats the format ssh mom:password@
semistud2354like that04:42
dthackersemistud2354: then so ssh -l "mom's login" "mom's ip address" and put in her password when prompted04:42
MinatakuIf I wrote a poem and encrypted it with ROT13, I could sue the crap out of anyone who decrypted it04:42
hitmanWillyathena, gpg is for personal files, and technically libdvdcss is illegal in the states, plus anybody with a dvd player could view it04:42
MinatakuWhich, of course, is another large part of why the DMCA is a complete and utter piece of ****ing ****04:42
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:43
athenawell, libdvdcss is illegal since it lets you break DRM, but how would *libcss* which *makes DRM* be illegal?04:43
hitmanWillyMinataku, you could even technically use a simple alphanumeric cypher key04:43
MinatakuhitmanWilly: That's all ROT13 is04:43
Minataku"Rotate 13 letters"04:43
semistud2354so its <so ssh -l "mom" "1122233344"04:44
semistud2354its not working04:44
hitmanWillyMinataku, yeah, im not to up on cryptography...:P04:44
dthackerdon't ust the quotes04:44
MinatakuhitmanWilly: Heehee04:44
MinatakuROT13 is barely qualifiable as encryption, really04:44
dthackerssh -l momloginname
MinatakuIt's encryption by the definition of the word only04:44
hitmanWillyMinataku, especially the arcane/crap stuff...04:44
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MinatakuEffectiveness is zero04:45
MinatakuWell, 0.0104:45
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MinatakuSince it DOES make it impossible to read at first to most04:45
dthackersemistud2354: that's a -l as in leave off using moms pc for pictures of naughty bits04:45
MinatakuBut it's also fairly easy to spot04:45
hitmanWillyMinataku, just rotate back 13, and there ya go04:45
MinatakuhitmanWilly: Bingo04:45
semistud2354i had to transfer files04:46
semistud2354i upgraded to feist04:46
MinatakuI have a personal OTP encryption system04:46
semistud2354so i used her comp04:46
MinatakuOTP being One Time Pad04:46
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semistud2354but i forgot they were in there04:46
hitmanWillyMinataku, that's spy stuff there :P04:46
devnullhehe Beryl = fun04:46
semistud2354its not workin04:46
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MinatakuAgain, more or less trivial, but I've beefed it up from my original design04:46
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dthackersemistud2354: what happens?04:47
MinatakuRedundancy, randomization04:47
semistud2354i type ssh -l mom
semistud2354it just sits there04:47
intelikeysemistud2354 let me guess,  she's gonna freek when she finds them ?04:47
MinatakuI've also thought of cyclic keys04:47
semistud2354im still getting a ping04:47
MinatakuWith an OTP-based key ID04:47
semistud2354there pics of me and the gf04:47
dthackertoo much information04:47
MinatakuNot enough info04:47
intelikeyit didn't take a genious to figure that one out...04:48
dthackersemistud2354: can you log in to her pc and verify tthat sshd is running?04:48
hitmanWillyMinataku, why not just use one-way algorithims?04:48
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semistud2354how do i do that04:48
hitmanWillyMinataku, ie gpg and such?04:48
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semistud2354i would remote controll her desktop...but kdrc isnt letting me04:48
MinatakuhitmanWilly: Well, when you're encrypting large amounts of data for surreptitious relay04:48
intelikeysemistud2354 walk up to her box and rm them ?04:48
dthackercan you physically get on the machine, open konsole, and do ps -ef | grep sshd04:48
hitmanWillyMinataku, ah, i can see that...04:48
semistud2354well...shes on her comp now04:48
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semistud2354and im at my house...04:49
semistud2354about 2 days away04:49
Minatakusemistud2354: Well, she's gonna get a nice show, isn't she04:49
intelikeywell if you can't ssh in you are sol04:49
MinatakuYou can call her up and tell her not to use the computer04:49
dthackersemistud2354: you could tell her they were for art class.04:49
intelikeyenjoy the ride kid.   reaping what ya sow isn't always fun but it always seems to work.04:50
MinatakuTell her you wanted to get that $500 from Hustler04:50
semistud2354not really04:50
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semistud2354do i type mom or mom desktop04:50
semistud2354she has like a network name04:50
crocodiletesting 12304:50
|crocodile|testing 12304:51
hitmanWillycrocodile, 45604:51
dthackeri saw a crocodile04:51
intelikeysemistud2354 no.  you type here user login name.04:51
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crocodilehehe  it works :)04:51
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abrahaoI made several atualization in this livecd, is there a way to save it to use again?04:51
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crocodiledidn't think I would say this, but I actually like konversation over kvirc and xchat04:52
semistud2354ssh -l mom
semistud2354like that04:52
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intelikeyif mom is how she logs in04:52
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dthackersemistud2354: yes, and if sshd is running, you should get a password prompt.04:52
semistud2354i dont see that on adept04:53
semistud2354how do you get that04:53
semistud2354or turn it on04:53
Dr_willis!info ssh04:53
intelikeyon her computer04:53
ubotussh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB04:53
dthackersemistud2354: and if not, you're borked.04:53
intelikeysemistud2354 if her computer is not running sshd    hehhe.  to bad.04:53
semistud2354how do you make it run sshd04:54
semistud2354where do i get it from04:54
semistud2354how do i turn it on04:54
intelikeynot likely04:54
MinatakuCould always try to DoS her04:54
intelikeywhich would gain nothing..04:54
semistud2354how do you get sshd04:55
MinatakuIf it slows the computer down04:55
MinatakuOr crashes it04:55
semistud2354im still getting a pin from her ip04:55
MinatakuIt gains a lot04:55
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intelikeythat'll run up a log file size....04:55
hitmanWillysemistud2354, so ssh <her_ip> returns an error?04:56
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semistud2354it just sits there04:56
semistud2354does nothing04:56
semistud2354no error04:56
semistud2354but ping is still pinging04:56
dthackerI vote no sshd.04:57
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MinatakuNo sshd would return "Connection refused"04:57
Minatakued@Piyoko /ext/C/Torrent Temporary/Di_Gi_Charat_PARTYNIGHT_CD_Single $ ssh ed@
Minatakussh: connect to host port 22: Connection refused04:57
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dthackerMinataku: ah, good point.  I forgot.04:58
semistud2354it said that04:58
[Relic] Hello :)04:58
MinatakuTry "ssh -l mom ipaddress"04:58
intelikeydthacker i'm with you.  he didn't set it up on her box so it's not there04:58
Dr_willisunless thers a router/firewall - i think04:58
Minatakusemistud2354: It DID?04:58
semistud2354on one of the things04:58
MinatakuThen yeah, you're up sh*t creek if it returned connection refused04:58
semistud2354yea i tryed mom desktop ip04:58
semistud2354and mom ip04:58
Minatakusemistud2354: Did you use the -l ?04:58
semistud2354mom:pass ip04:58
Dr_willisyou sure its her ip?04:58
Minataku-l is for login name04:58
dthackermost other "hanging" problems I've seen are DNS related04:58
semistud2354as in lisa04:58
Minatakusemistud2354: Small l04:58
semistud2354or imp04:58
MinatakuLowercase l, not upper04:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qt4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:59
Minataku [-l login_name] 04:59
semistud2354o my bad04:59
semistud2354it said connection timed out04:59
semistud2354not connection refused04:59
MinatakuDo you have a routeR?04:59
semistud2354i tured of dchp04:59
MinatakuIf so, it may be filtering the ports04:59
MinatakuAh, yeah, it'd need to be forwarded05:00
hitmanWillymost do by default05:00
MinatakuEven if she has sshd, you're blocked05:00
semistud2354ok soooo05:00
hitmanWillythat's all i use for a firewall, btw05:00
semistud2354i tured off dchp05:00
semistud2354or on05:00
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[Relic] is there a site that list tv tuner cards that work with kubuntu by product name?05:01
semistud2354the one that you plug in to the regular ports05:01
[Relic] or should I just grab a hauppage and be done with it  :)05:01
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport05:02
semistud2354i have dchp turend off05:02
dthackerRelic: guys in my lug say go huappage FWIW05:02
semistud2354so i dont think it will alow me to connect to it05:02
semistud2354unless i reset it05:02
MinatakuDHCP has nothing to do with it anyway05:02
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MinatakuYou need to forward port 22 to the machine with sshd05:02
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MinatakuA static IP will help in that05:03
dthackersemistud2354: how did you move the files *to* the mom pc?05:03
MinatakuBut if it's temporary, it probably wouldn't matter anyway05:03
hitmanWillysemistud2354, most routers are set up with a hw firewall that blocks incoming connection attempts unless the ports are explicitly forwarded to a certain machine05:03
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draikMinataku: http://www.portforward.com05:03
semistud2354but i was onher network05:03
semistud2354so it seemed to connect05:03
intelikeyMinataku you do realize that you are wasting your breath there.  he is remote form the box that he would have to admin....05:03
semistud2354but i took the router with me05:04
semistud2354so now she is connected to a modem05:04
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semistud2354dsl modem05:04
semistud2354i have a router05:04
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draiksemistud2354: What are you trying to do?05:04
Darlid01Can I ask an incredibly noobish question?05:04
draikhitmanWilly: I do ssh every once in a while.05:04
osirisDarlid01, dont ask to ask05:05
[Relic] Thanks  :)05:05
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semistud2354when i check my ip05:05
Dr_willisDarlid01,  you just did. :)05:05
draik!ask | Darlid0105:05
ubotuDarlid01: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:05
semistud2354i get like05:05
hitmanWillyDarlid01, you're in the right place for those :)05:05
semistud2354not 192.16805:05
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draikDDoS'ers, start your systems....05:05
osiriswow.  networking 101. this should take a week05:05
dthackersemistud2354: 192.168 was an example...05:05
Darlid01Fair enough, I have a nc6000 I'm trying to put kubuntu on. I used to have Gentoo, but kubuntu is giving me a i/o error on the CD05:05
Dr_willisSounds like a badly burnt cd, or bad iso download05:06
Darlid01The CD is fine, the drive is fine, it's probably missing a driver05:06
osirisdid you md5sum the disk ?05:06
dthackerDarlid01: ^^^05:06
Darlid01Yep, I checked it twice and redownlaoded to be sure05:06
semistud2354usually when your behind a network  thats the kind of ip you would get05:06
semistud2354but i have dchp turend off05:06
semistud2354or on05:06
semistud2354the one where i have to plug the internet connection into the regular ports05:07
Schuenemannhey, how can I know if the programs on add/remove are the latest releases?05:07
Darlid01Is there an alternative install method other that the graphical interfave?05:07
Dr_willisThey are the latest thats in theubuntu repositories.05:07
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hitmanWillyDarlid01, alternate-cd05:07
Dr_willisDoubtfull if they are the latest that exist.. but in 6 mo - they all get updated. :) thats how ubuntu releases work.05:08
dthackerDarlid01: theres and alternative install CD05:08
osirisDarlid01, alternate-cd like the others said05:08
SchuenemannDr_willis: can't I see the version before installing?05:08
hitmanWillyDarlid01, its an old school ncurses iface installer with a LOT more options05:08
Darlid01I suppose I'll try that then. I'll lag on here while I try it.05:08
osirisor ubuntu-server05:08
semistud2354if its still pinging my momz ip address05:09
semistud2354that means she's still online??05:09
MinatakuIt means the router is still online05:09
Darlid01I was partially curious if there was anyone who had tried putting kubuntu on a nc6000 and if there was any documented errors I should be aware of05:09
MinatakuYou're not pinging her IP05:09
Darlid01Or more accurately where to look for that type of documentation05:09
MinatakuYou're pinging the IP of your internet connection05:09
Dr_willisSchuenemann,  use the full package manager.   it shows the verison #'s05:09
semistud2354she doesnt have a routher05:09
MinatakuYou said she did05:09
SchuenemannDr_willis: what's that?05:09
osirisDarlid01, what exactly IS a dc600005:10
semistud2354i have a router05:10
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto05:10
osirisor whatever05:10
draikMinataku: No, he's got a router, not his mom05:10
MinatakuI'm sorry, but this technically isn't even Kubuntu-related05:10
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto05:10
Darlid01Sorry NC6000 not a dc600005:10
Schuenemannbut that is adept05:10
Darlid01It's a HP laptop05:10
semistud2354she has dsl05:10
MinatakuDSL is always-on05:10
osiristhe netoworking 101 should go someplace05:10
draiksemistud2354: her connections doesn't really matter05:10
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draiksemistud2354: point is that you need to get in there and you can't05:10
semistud2354so she could technacilly be off right now05:10
hitmanWillyDarlid01, hm, not sure about that one, works flawlessly on my dv800005:10
Minatakusemistud2354: You're just going to have to wait and find out05:11
semistud2354i thought ping ip would see if she's still online05:11
Darlid01Good to know. I've got a friend who is trying an install on that next week05:11
Darlid01We both just switched from Gentoo05:11
MinatakuDarlid01: Bad choice05:11
dthackerDarlid01: do you have another PC you try and boot from that CD05:11
osirisDarlid01, welcome to having freetime05:11
hitmanWillyDarlid01, i still use gentoo on the desktop05:11
Schuenemannwooooooooot feisty has filezilla!05:11
MinatakuWhy you'd want to take 5 steps back is beyond me05:11
Darlid01Yes, I can boot from my desktop fine05:11
ManiDhillonWINE log me out whenever i try to run it.05:11
Dr_willisNo more meditating on gcc output...05:12
semistud2354is there anyway to findout if her computer is on05:12
semistud2354with out calling her05:12
dthackerNo more "I survived a Stage 1 install" t-shirts05:12
hitmanWillyDarlid01, also, the wifi works out of the box on a dv8000, one less headache to deal with05:12
draiksemistud2354: with DSL/Cable, the IPs can change. For all you know, you can be pinging her neighbor05:12
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semistud2354so i have to constantly be checking her computer05:13
semistud2354's ip05:13
semistud2354to see if its still the same05:13
osirismore or less.  or give it a dyneDNS address05:13
Darlid01semistud2354, you could get her set on a static IP, but that costs money.05:13
osirisand set the router to update it05:13
MinatakuSorry, I'm going to step out05:13
klobsterI can't seem to resize an ext3 partition with qtparted on the fiesty livecd05:13
Dr_willisklobster,  shrinking it?05:14
osirisklobster, is there an error message ?05:14
Darlid01Or you could script a logon that pings you, that'd give you her IP05:14
semistud2354how do you do that05:14
klobsterno msg, the option is greyed out05:14
Darlid01But, I have my own issue to deal with. Be back later...05:14
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MinatakuSorry also, I'm not a fan of *buntu's simplicity05:16
MinatakuI much prefer doing things the TRULY easy way05:16
MinatakuhitmanWilly knows where I'm coming from there :D05:16
Dr_willisYadda yadda yadda. :)05:16
klobstersemistud; do you know bash scripting?05:16
MinatakuAs a fellow Gentoo user05:16
MinatakuDr_willis: lol05:16
crimsun"easy" is subjective to the user.05:16
semistud2354its like programing right??05:16
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Darlid01|laggingI like Gentoo, but I got tired of recompiling05:16
Dr_willisIm using LinuxMint at the moment.. :) its got some nifty features that i hope make it into Ubuntu/Kubuntu some day05:16
Darlid01|laggingQuit making me play! I need to work!05:17
Darlid01|laggingTranslation: THis is an interesting conversation, but I need to work on hte laptop05:17
hitmanWillysemistud2354, it'd involve scripting something on her machine that would ping you, hence giving you the incoming ip address in your log files05:17
klobster!pastebin | klobster05:17
semistud2354its too late now05:18
semistud2354i just dont want those pics...05:18
klobstersemistud2354: what is your IP? is it static?05:18
semistud2354shes "looking on her computer for music"05:18
semistud2354i dunno05:18
semistud2354proll not05:18
semistud2354whats static05:18
semistud2354where it doesnt change05:19
klobsteruhh, me thinks i assume to much sometimes05:19
klobsteryeah, permanent.05:19
klobsterman ping05:19
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semistud2354ok...so what do you need to connect to a computer remotely....05:20
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:20
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semistud2354ssh -l mom her ip05:20
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semistud2354is that the just of it05:21
Dr_willisthats the geist of it.05:21
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semistud2354she prolly shut down her computer05:21
semistud2354i tryed using fish05:21
semistud2354that didnt work05:21
semistud2354in konqueror05:21
klobsteror use krdc05:21
semistud2354i did05:21
semistud2354but that didnt work either05:22
klobstersemistud: porque?05:22
semistud2354how do you do that05:22
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semistud2354dont you need like permisssion05:22
semistud2354from the other persion05:22
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klobsteryeah, it's pretty self explanatory...05:23
semistud2354how do you connect05:23
semistud2354just mom 11.222.333.4405:23
abrahaoI made some updates in the live cd the I'm running now, and I want to save it, how?05:23
semistud2354or is there like05:23
klobstertell her to open internet/krfb05:23
semistud2354or vnc//05:23
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klobsterand invite via email05:23
semistud2354i told her to do that05:23
semistud2354i didnt do that05:24
klobsterthen you don't need to teach her anything05:24
semistud2354it sends you an email wiher her info05:24
semistud2354she told it to me on the phone...05:24
semistud2354it was a 168 type of ip05:24
klobsterprovideed her mail program is set up correct, else she will have to cut and paste the message to wherever she sends her mail.05:25
semistud2354so i told her to go on whats my ip05:25
draiksemistud2354: "Mom, there are some things on your computer that shouldn't be there. I was being childish and need to take it out of there before you get mad. Please don't use your computer until I get there."05:25
semistud2354and it have an ip thats like
semistud2354i should05:25
semistud2354which one do i use05:26
semistud2354the one that her krdc program gave o05:26
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semistud2354or the whats my ip05:26
intelikeytruth is not the best policy,  it's the only policy.   use it.05:26
klobsteram i really helping a teen delete pr0n from his moms computer?05:26
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hitmanWillysemistud2354, the 192....is the local network address05:26
intelikeyklobster yep05:26
draikklobster: seems that way05:26
hitmanWillysemistud2354, you need the other one05:27
semistud2354so i told her to go on whats my ip05:27
semistud2354and it gave her like05:27
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semistud2354like that05:27
semistud2354and i used that05:27
hitmanWillysemistud2354, ssh <whats_my_ip_address>05:28
semistud2354i did that05:28
klobstersemistud (how apt a handle): just use the invite by email, if her email program is not configured, she can cut and paste the msg to hotmail, or whatever she uses.05:28
draiksemistud2354: ssh <username>@<her.external.ip.address>05:28
intelikeyhitmanWilly i really don't think that sshd is even on her box      (but i've been wrong before)05:28
hitmanWillyintelikey, im starting to think that as well05:29
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hitmanWillyin which case semistud2354 is borked :)05:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pr0n - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:29
semistud2354im boned05:29
Schuenemannklobster, what's that?05:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:30
semistud2354how do i get sshd05:30
semistud2354or turn it on05:30
semistud2354her box05:30
klobstersemistud2354: is she on a wireless network?05:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ssg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:30
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/05:30
semistud2354no i am05:30
hitmanWillysemistud2354, she'd have to do it from her box05:30
semistud2354shes on dsl05:30
semistud2354how do you do it05:30
intelikeyinstall ssh05:30
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semistud2354i did that05:31
semistud2354and openssh05:31
klobsterSchuenemann: what is what?05:31
semistud2354she told me05:31
semistud2354i made her loo05:31
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Schuenemannklobster, pr0n05:31
draiksemistud2354: it doesn't matter if she's on a freaking telegraphy sending moorse-coded modem handshakes05:31
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hitmanWillySchuenemann, google it and see what comes up :P05:32
klobsterSchuenemann: it's the reason teens lie to their parents05:32
Schuenemannheh I'll check it out05:32
draikklobster: That's just mean... >:)05:32
sebastianwhats time is in there ?05:32
intelikeyone reason05:32
semistud2354its prolly something sick like tub girl05:32
Schuenemannbut why is that on his mom's computer and not on his?05:32
klobstersemistud2354: it's your computer, you would know ;)05:33
crocodilecan someone say my nick in chat in 10 seconds please?05:33
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keisangihi there05:33
Schuenemanncrocodile, crocodile05:33
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semistud2354lemme get this straight...by installing ssh..ive installed sshd05:33
keisangiis there's a way to hide Kate's sidebar by default ?05:33
semistud2354ssh is sshd05:33
crocodileSchuenemann - thanks it worked... 80% :x05:33
draikLOL @ klobster05:33
semistud2354thats the impression im getting05:34
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klobstersebastion: yes05:34
keisangimenu > windows > tool views > hide sidebar     ... by default ..05:34
Schuenemannthis channel is funny sometimes05:34
zblachanyone here have trouble with cups not responding?05:34
draikzblach: Sorry, I'm using dishes05:34
semistud2354is that right05:34
Dr_williszblach,  not that ive seen. Or even heard mentioned05:34
intelikeysemistud2354 "<semistud2354> lemme get this straight...by installing ssh..ive installed sshd" <<< yes.  but that doesn't help you any.  sshd has to be installed and running on the "host" end before you can connect.05:35
semistud2354how does it run05:35
semistud2354on the host05:35
draiksemistud2354: with all nodes05:35
draiksemistud2354: How does any other app run?05:35
klobsterzblach: it's usually printer specific, google for your printer, or give more detail.  try #debian as well05:35
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hitmanWillysemistud2354, once its installed, its usually set up as a boot time daemon05:35
intelikeysemistud2354 ok that's enough.    we were amused for the first hour,   now it's time to move on.05:35
zblachklobster: it's not an issue with the printer. cupsd seems to run okay, but pointing konq. to localhost:631 does nothing05:36
semistud2354so it starts automatically05:36
semistud2354is that what your sayin05:36
hitmanWillysemistud2354, usually, if its installed05:36
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semistud2354so...the reason that its not connecting is because she must have turned off her pc05:37
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TrueFXhi guys05:37
TrueFXive got a problem05:37
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ben_i'm listening...05:37
TrueFXive 2 sound card on of which is sound blaster Live05:37
TrueFXand the second one is onboard card05:37
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TrueFXbut whenever i restart i choses card randomly05:38
TrueFXat least that's what it seams too me05:38
hitmanWillysemistud2354, no, it probably means she doesn't have sshd installed05:38
klobsterzblach: are you typing localhost, or your actual ip?05:38
semistud2354i personally installed ssh05:38
TrueFXwhen i plug sound cable into different sound card i can listen music05:38
zblachlocalhost or
semistud2354so i can put the "stuff" on her comp05:38
semistud2354so i can upgrade to feisty05:38
TrueFXso is there a way to choose automatically Live card instead of CK8S05:38
semistud2354but i forgot about the files05:39
semistud2354and now im boned05:39
TrueFXwhen i use asoundconf list05:39
TrueFXCK8S and Live are listed05:39
klobsterzblach: did you try to restart the cups daemon?05:39
TrueFXso what may be the possible solution for that?05:40
zblachalso tried purging it and reinstalling it from the cups site05:40
RawSewageI thought I was in Politics05:40
RawSewagethe uncensored channel05:40
draikRawSewage: Depends what you ask or say!05:40
RawSewageI banned myself from that channel05:41
RawSewageI was joking though05:41
sebastiani tired i go to sleep bye have nice settings05:41
RawSewagebut unforgiveable on that channel05:41
klobsterzblach: try #cups, they should be able to help you.05:41
hitmanWillysemistud2354, if it is installed, tell her to run sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart05:41
zblachbeen there for 20 mins. except for you joining, there's no activity05:41
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hitmanWillysemistud2354, that should restart the ssh server05:42
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yurimxpxmancould someone point me in the right direction to spoofing an IP address with netcat?05:42
hitmanWillysemistud2354, other than that, you're borked05:42
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semistud2354i cant call her anymore05:43
semistud2354most likely i got off the phone with her around 905:44
hitmanWillysemistud2354, then you're screwed, sorry dude...05:44
intelikeyhmm the game keeps changing .....05:44
semistud2354she looked at her emial05:44
semistud2354and music05:44
semistud2354found the pics05:44
semistud2354and when i get back05:44
semistud2354im going to have an incredibly ackward conversation with her05:44
draikshould have just told her05:44
semistud2354i put them in my downloads folder05:45
semistud2354along with music and some n64 roms05:45
semistud2354i wanted to save them05:45
klobsterzblach: sorry, II am not familiar with cups; you might try a wget localhost:631 to see if maybe it's a kong thing?05:45
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semistud2354cuz i wanted to upgrade to feisty05:45
zblachit's not konq. specific05:45
semistud2354so i installed ssh on her and my comp05:45
semistud2354put the folder on her computer05:45
intelikeyshould have never setup the camera on your escapades,  errr no.  should have beheaved your self to begin with...05:45
semistud2354and installed feisty05:46
semistud2354i finished around 205:46
intelikeythen the pictures wouldn't exist.  the whole thing would never have happened.05:46
semistud2354then next morning i totaly forgot about them05:46
semistud2354and left...05:46
klobstersemistud2354: if it helps, I am     sure it's nothing your mom isn't aware of.  I hear everrrryones doing it these days...05:47
hitmanWillyintelikey, if only r. kelly and paris hilton had listened to your advice...05:47
semistud2354its not that05:47
semistud2354its gonna be kinda ackward to see her...05:47
semistud2354when she saw the pics05:47
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hitmanWillyintelikey, nah, just perfected it :)05:48
semistud2354hopefully it'll just pop up in the thumb nails05:48
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intelikeyhitmanWilly well they didn't do that either.05:48
semistud2354and she will assume its my asshole stepdads pr0n05:48
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hitmanWillyintelikey, i know, it was just too easy...05:48
semistud2354if i could have established a connection i could have taken them off05:49
semistud2354she called like an hour ago05:49
semistud2354n asked where her music was05:49
semistud2354i said look in the home folder...05:49
semistud2354where the file that has my pics are05:49
intelikey!offtopic | semistud235405:49
ubotusemistud2354: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:49
Daisuke_Idowelcome to the game show that's sweeping the globe: You Just Got Disowned!05:50
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semistud2354good story tho05:51
klobsterso anyway, on the fiesty LiveCD I cant seem to resize an EXT3 partition?  ntfs, yes, but ext3, no...05:52
Dr_willisklobster,  it may be how the drive is aprtitioned/laid out thats causing the problem.05:52
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SchuenemannI just installed feisty and firefox looks very ugly, but I don't remember what I did in edgy. Can anyone help?05:54
Schuenemannwhat I did to make it less ugly05:54
intelikeythat's not karma, that's a modem reset.05:54
hitmanWillyintelikey, i figured as much...05:54
klobster?? SDA 1) ext3 100mb 2)ntfs 46gb 3) ext3 139gb 4) extended 5)swap 1.86gb 6) ext3 44.6gb05:54
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klobsterqtparted know how to work with the journaling, no?05:55
Dr_willisi think the issue MAY be how ya got primary/extended partitions setup05:57
intelikeytty1 [root@~]  fdisk -l05:57
intelikeytty1 [root@~]  which fdisk05:57
intelikeytty1 [root@~]  ls /sbin/fdisk -l05:57
intelikey-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 73968 May 15  2006 /sbin/fdisk05:57
Dr_willisyou want to expand #3 ?05:57
Dr_willisman you got some complex drive layout. :) none of mine are near that complex. heh05:57
klobsteri want to shrink 3, move 4 and 5 and expnad 605:58
klobsterand maybe add a 3.5 (if possible)05:58
intelikeylet me guess you made a 46g / fs ???  :)   and found that 6g was plenty    :)05:59
klobsterI need to leave the swap where it's at, as i use it for swap in winxp05:59
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klobsterintellikey: no I had it all on the 46, and realized maybe I needed a little more security.06:00
klobsterintellikey: oops, s/46/139/06:00
intelikey</shrugs>    my root fs is on  /dev/hda  on this box06:01
Dr_willisI tend to just have a lot of HD's with all primary partitions06:01
klobsterthe 44gb is just a blnk partition, really06:01
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intelikeyand no that's not a typo.   no partitions exist.06:01
osirisif anyone wants to see THIS hours screenie...06:01
klobsterintellikey: you don't count; your /dev/hda /dev/sdram06:02
intelikeyklobster what are you making the 'extra' space for ?06:02
intelikeyi'm just wondering if you couldn't just mount the free fs somewhere06:03
klobsterintellikey: I want to move my /home to the newly created partition on the end, and leave my root on it's own06:03
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intelikeyi'd prolly just move the / to the 46g free space and change the menu.lst and fstab to match06:04
intelikeybut that's just me.  i like doing things the easy way.06:04
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klobsterintelikey: actually that would work just fine.06:05
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intelikeyhey it was just a thought.06:05
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klobsterI have a habit of getting stuck in this there has to be a way to do "x" whenever I am around linux.06:06
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klobsteralright, gotta go watch 4400 before I do a reinstall :(06:07
Viking667sounds like what I'm going through at the moment. I'm trying to replace a "sox" invocation with an artsplay invocation.06:07
intelikey4400 ?06:07
klobsterit's tv.  you wouldn't understand.06:07
intelikeyprolly right.06:08
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weerdoXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".06:08
weerdowhats mean?06:08
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klobsterintelikey: thanks for the advice, and the laughs.  see ya!06:09
Viking667... incidentally, I went "man artsplay" but there's no man page. for artsplay, where else should I look? I'm pretty new to this kubuntu thing.06:09
intelikeyno 3d eccel06:09
intelikeyklobster shalom06:09
weerdoati x20006:09
intelikeyViking667 sometimes if mo man page try info blah  and it will have an info page.06:10
Viking667not for a kde prokject06:10
weerdointelikey can i do someting?06:10
intelikeyViking667 else   ls /usr/share/doc/blah         lastly uncle google06:10
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=== Viking667 seems to remember something about kde docs being ******* hard to decipher from the commandline.
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(intelikey/#kubuntu) !seen everyone06:12
(ubotu/#kubuntu) Sorry, I don't know anything about seen everyone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:12
(nmjohnso/#kubuntu) anyone ever set up an ubuntu server?06:13
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(Viking667/#kubuntu) !arts06:13
(ubotu/#kubuntu) Sorry, I don't know anything about arts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:13
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(Viking667/#kubuntu) bah.06:13
intelikeyViking667 ok kde docs   look in konqueror #blah !blah @blah06:14
nmjohnsoanyone ever set up an ubuntu server?06:14
Viking667I'm at the COMMANDLINE... I'm not actually in kde at the moment.06:14
osirisnmjohnso, i have06:14
intelikeyi was thinking alsa not arts   i should pay closer attention06:14
nmjohnsohow is it...i wanna try at my house just to see how it goes and things06:14
nmjohnsois there anything special i should know?06:14
osiriswhat are you looking to serve ?06:15
intelikeyViking667 well the disreguard previous bable06:15
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Schuenemannhey, I don't see thunderbird 2 in  the repositories06:15
nmjohnsoall the files and everything i have06:15
Viking667intelikey: ...err, what?06:15
nmjohnsoi'm downloading the server edition of ubuntu right now06:15
osirisnmjohnso, what share protocols06:15
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Viking667ohhh. "disregard previous babble"06:16
intelikeyViking667 s/the/then/06:16
zabidoes the gui for ntfs-3g not work in kubuntu?06:16
osirissmb, ftp, nfs, ?06:16
nmjohnsoi was thinking ftp06:16
osirisits as easy as any other distro to set up vsftpd06:16
intelikeyyeah typo king is on a roll06:16
SayersWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated . What key do I need?06:16
Dr_willisi alwyas just hit "do it anyway" :)06:17
osiristhe keys listed in the sources.list file ?06:17
Viking667you're worse than I am! At least I correct my errors...06:17
SayersI'd like to correct it06:17
nmjohnsois there anything real easy?06:17
intelikeyViking667 you don't hold the title of 'typo king' though06:17
Dr_willisreal easy for what?06:17
intelikeyi don't have to correct them..06:17
osirisi think apache, vsftp, smb are all easy06:17
osirisits just a matter of your experience level06:18
nmjohnsohonestly never set up any server06:18
osirissmb would prolly be the easiest for you, and is windows compatible06:18
Dr_willisinstall ssh, poof.. ya got a ssh server. :)06:18
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osirisno doubt06:18
Dr_willisthen ya can use winscp on windows to access files.06:18
osirisa server isnt a distro, its an application06:18
Dr_willisI do that for fast/quick transfers of files.06:18
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nmjohnsoi was also hoping to later be able to set it up to be able to run programs and such on other computers06:19
Viking667oh crap. I thought so. The docs are in docbook format06:19
nmjohnsobut don't know if it is possible or even a good idea06:19
Dr_willisnmjohnso,  thats rather .. trivial once ya learn the fundamentals06:19
osirishell, i have a 400 mhz pc that is a "server" . i have telephone (voip phone) with a web server (for the web gui) in it06:20
Dr_willisI got the machine upstairs with a whole desktop thats running on the machine downstairs. :)06:20
Dr_willisit just 'appears' locally06:20
Dr_willisThe power of XDMCP :)06:20
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Dr_willisand with xming, i can get a Linux desktop on the windows box's also06:21
osirismy xbox plays movies and videos off 3 pc's in my house06:21
SayersHm , I thought Quake 4 worked on linux.06:21
osirisalmost all my pc's have some form of server app on them06:21
nmjohnsocuzz i had trouble with getting gui in my ssh06:21
Dr_willisSayers,  it has a native linux port.. yes...06:21
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Schuenemannthunderbird 2 was released after feisty... is there some way to install it using apt-get?06:21
osirissetting up windows file sharing is making a server06:21
Dr_willisOr was i thinking of Doom4 ?06:21
nmjohnsoi've done that before06:22
Dr_willisor was that Doom3? Heck.. i give up.06:22
nmjohnsobut that doesn't seem to have the gui and things like i was looking for06:22
Dr_willisgui in your ssh.. hmm.. theres somthing flawed with that statement. :)06:22
nmjohnsoi was told that with the ssh i could just sudo startx and i'd have gui to play video and things06:23
osirishelp my cli is all gooey06:23
Dr_willisnmjohnso,  i think you either were told wrong.. or missunderstood.06:23
nmjohnsoits possible06:23
Dr_willisstartx has nothing to do with ssh. :)06:23
Dr_willisyou CAN 'ssh -X remotebox' and then run apps ON that box and have them appear locally06:23
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Dr_willisi do that all the time also.06:24
nmjohnsowill video work well like that?06:24
Dr_willisthats different from the xdmcp method.06:24
osirisdepends on the bandwidth of the connection06:24
Dr_willisnmjohnso,  might. :) but may have issues.06:24
osirisover lan ? over wan ?06:24
Dr_willisi got my porn set up in a samba share.. :) err.. vacation pics..06:25
osirisgot a t1 ?06:25
nmjohnsowhat i REALLY wanna do is be able to remote log into the box, download files and videos and view them from my laptop06:25
Viking667incidentally... that reminds me. How do I get a local X server to connect to a remote xdmcp server? I thought I was supposed to use "startx -- :1 -indirect that_host"06:25
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Viking667but that doesn't seem to work too well.06:25
osirisnmjohnso, thats easy.  just a matter of the methods you chose to do so06:25
nmjohnsoand suggested methods?06:25
Dr_willisViking667,  i recall using the -query option06:26
hitmanWillynmjohnso, id suggest sftp06:26
osirisi use a combination of ftp, http, and smb06:26
osirisand ssh + scp06:26
nmjohnsoprogram suggestions?  or how do i set up?06:26
Dr_willisSamba,, :)06:26
Dr_willisand read the samba books in the samba-doc package06:26
osirishell, ill use lynks on my home server to surf porn sites, post the videos there, then download them from work06:26
lmerovingioHi, i have a problem, i installed php, mysql, apache2 but when I make a prube of a php file firefox try to download it06:27
osirisits just a matter of methods06:27
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lmerovingiowhat can I do?06:27
osirisnmjohnso, first learn ssh and samba06:28
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osirissetting up samba is a bit tricky at first, but is well documented on the net06:29
Dr_willisand in the repos. :)06:29
Dr_willis!info samba-doc06:29
ubotusamba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 6754 kB, installed size 14512 kB06:29
crimsunread?  pssht.  That's for suckers.06:30
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Dr_willisincludes 'Using Samba" and some other samba book.06:30
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Dr_willisSamba by example. or somthing06:30
osirisi prefer to ozmose data06:30
lmerovingioI think php is not working, what can I do?06:30
Dr_willisI wish more disrtos had 'books' in the repos. and set up a easy way to get to them :)06:30
Dr_willisi end up linking their dirs to my apache www stuff06:30
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ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)06:31
lmerovingioI dont know what is the problem, when I try the php file "http://localhost/test.php" appears the dialog for download or open the file06:33
lmerovingioI think php is not working, but I installed it with aptitude install php506:34
osiriswhy not use apt-get ?06:34
Schuenemannthunderbird 2 was released after feisty... is there some way to install it using apt-get?06:34
osirisjust curious06:34
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lmerovingiobut I think is ok with aptitude06:35
lmerovingiowhat is better aptitude or apt-get06:35
Dr_willisdepends :)06:35
Dr_willisaptitude is a little 'smarter' in some areas06:35
Dr_willisbut still has some issues in others.06:35
Dr_willisLike the other day.. it decided to remove 300 packages... then reinstall them...06:36
Dr_willisStill not sure what that was about.06:36
intelikeydselect ?06:36
Dr_willisjust did an appotide install somthing, and poof.. it removed 300 packages..06:36
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Dr_willisso i tried installing somting else.. andit put them all back06:36
lmerovingioI made aptitude install php5, also mysql-server-4.1, also apache2, and others06:37
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lmerovingiobut I dont know what is the problem, I think is something missing in the apache2.conf06:38
intelikeyapache is good.     i like cherokee better tho06:38
intelikeyhow !06:38
Schuenemannso, nobody cares about thunderbird 2? :p06:38
osirisyou bring the peace.  i got the pipe06:39
Dr_willisSchuenemann,  i know that i dont care about it at all.06:39
jussi01what codec do i need to play xvid 4?06:39
ben_i love Kontact06:39
Dr_willisthe xvid codec?06:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:39
DaSkreechSchuenemann: plenty06:39
Dr_williswhich is an open codec as far as i know. so it should be included.06:40
Schuenemanna generic apt-get question: when something is released after one kubuntu version, that thing won't be added in the repositories?06:40
Dr_willisSchuenemann,  updates happen every 6 mo.06:40
Dr_willisits Possible theres addations in the backports repos.06:40
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging06:41
Dr_willisor ya got all these unoffical repos also.06:41
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Dr_willisGetting to be a lot of Unoffical repos now a days. :)06:41
intelikeynot that i support there isn't06:41
Dr_willisyou are so special. :)06:42
Daisuke_Idothe only third-party repo i'll touch is wine06:42
Dr_willis>hic< wine...06:42
Dr_willisdosbox win311.exe06:43
Daisuke_Idowell yeah...06:43
DaSkreechcedega.. hic hic06:43
Daisuke_Idovmware to run ms-dos 6.2206:43
Dr_willisi cancled my cedega account. :)06:43
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Schuenemannis it harmful to have duplicate repositories?06:43
Daisuke_Idoeff cedega.  i don't play games.06:43
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DaSkreechSchuenemann: yes very06:43
Dr_willisdosbox is good for the old-skool stuff.06:43
DaSkreechSchuenemann: it extends your apt-get update time by nearly a second06:44
DaSkreechSchuenemann: It's scandalous06:44
Dr_willisEgads! Optmize that thing!06:44
SchuenemannI see06:44
intelikeySchuenemann harmful,,,, not generally  but it's not a good idea either.06:44
Dr_willisPut it in a ramdisk!06:44
Daisuke_IdoDr_willis: dosbox is truly awesome.06:44
Dr_willisDaisuke_Ido,  yep. Plays Warlords good. :)06:44
DaSkreechDr_willis: iii?06:45
Dr_willisDoes Ultima and  Wizardry also.06:45
Dr_willis Warlords II i think is my fave version.06:45
Daisuke_Idoi started using it in the early days using builds from harekiet, and it kinda sorta really sucked then.06:45
Daisuke_IdoDaSkreech: is iii a dos gam?06:45
Dr_willisI had some Ultima/wizardy collection cd's that never did work right under windows. :)06:45
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DaSkreechWarlords III06:45
Dr_williswith dosbox they work good.06:45
Daisuke_Idoeven ultima VII06:46
Daisuke_Idowhich shocked me06:46
Dr_williswarlords 4 i think was a windows95 version.. that sort of sucked. It had stupid video/cut scenes and stuff.06:46
Dr_willisVII that the one with the Murder at the start?06:46
Daisuke_IdoDaSkreech: there's no reason that it shouldn't run just fine06:46
Dr_willisI never did get past the start. :) heh...06:47
Daisuke_Idothe one that was really demanding on memory06:47
Dr_willisalways annoyed me..06:47
Daisuke_Idoi've never finished an ultima game :(06:47
Dr_willisI finished Ultima I i think.06:47
Dr_willisor was it II06:47
Dr_willisthe one with the timetravel stuff06:47
Dr_willisand you could build 'walls' of chests. :) and other odd quirks06:48
Dr_willisocean of ships!06:48
intelikeydosbox ?06:48
Dr_willisEgads - we were board kids in the old days.06:48
intelikeyis that a gui thing ?06:48
Dr_willisDosbox is a dos-emulator  thing. :)06:48
hitmanWillyintelikey, nope06:48
Dr_willis!info dosbox06:48
intelikeyhitmanWilly then why wont it run in my console ?06:49
ubotudosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (feisty), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB06:49
intelikeyExit to error: Can't init SDL No available video device06:49
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Dr_willisits an X application06:49
Dr_willisthat can go fullscreen06:49
hitmanWillyintelikey, IIRC it dumps you into a dos cmd line06:49
Daisuke_Idothere are frontends to manage multiple config files06:49
Daisuke_IdohitmanWilly: it's a little more than that :)06:49
intelikeythat's what i asked,  is it one of those gui things06:49
Schuenemannok, I don't see thunderbird 2 in the backports page. Is there any chance it will be there for feisty someday?06:49
Dr_willisthose darn pesky gui things!06:49
DaSkreech!info atlantik | Dr_willis here "board kid"06:50
ubotudr_willis here "board kid": atlantik: KDE client for Monopoly-like network games. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 398 kB, installed size 1132 kB06:50
DaSkreechSchuenemann: I doubt it06:50
Dr_willis!info pornview06:50
ubotupornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-7 (feisty), package size 223 kB, installed size 664 kB06:50
DaSkreechSchuenemann: You can  just install it normally06:50
Dr_willis!info hotbabe06:50
ubotuPackage hotbabe does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:50
Schuenemannwell, I hope they have a .deb installation06:50
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DaSkreechSchuenemann: doubt that as well But I think if you poke around you can find one06:51
DaSkreech Schuenemann try get-deb.net06:51
DaSkreechDr_willis:  :-P they do have a deb for it though06:51
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  hotbabe? :) i think its on the mediaubuntu site06:51
DaSkreechDr_willis: It's fun for like 4 minutes06:52
Daisuke_Ido"board kid" frequenter of bulletin board systems (BBSes) in the 80's through the mid 9006:52
vbgunzsomeone please help. I drag icons on my desktop and during the drag, the mouse icon changes quickly between the X (cannot drop here icon) and the hand icon... sometimes I can drop a file and sometimes i cannot... anyone know whats causes this and or how to fix it?06:53
SchuenemannDaSkreech, getdeb.net ?06:53
Daisuke_Idoback when we waited several hours for the doom shareware version to download :D06:53
underdog5004dwidmann, you still here?06:53
lmerovingiowhat is the channel for spanish?06:54
DaSkreechSchuenemann: Website that takes apps and debs them up06:54
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:54
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lmerovingiook, thanks06:54
DaSkreechvbgunz: Maybe you are hovering over somewhere you can't drop?06:54
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SchuenemannDaSkreech, yeah, but you put an extra dash and it didn't open for me, I was just making sure06:54
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DaSkreechah sorry06:55
DaSkreechI hardly got here06:55
vbgunzDaSkreech: no, I can definitely drop it ... the desktop is just sort of confused at dropping it... sucks major balls :(06:55
DaSkreechI just jump on it when Wesnoth gets a release06:55
Schuenemannnothing found... *sigh*06:56
thedudeif I change the name of my user folder to thedude2, will that change all of my info to thedude2, or simply bork my user dir?06:56
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Schuenemannthose manuals installations are a pain06:56
Schuenemannoh thunderbird, why weren't you released a week before?06:57
lmerovingioIs there any lamp expert here06:58
intelikeyi've got a major malfunction,    i have a shell script that i can't execute !06:59
lmerovingioI need somebody to guide me step by step to install it06:59
Schuenemann!lamp | lmerovingio06:59
ubotulmerovingio: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)06:59
intelikey-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  232 Jun 24 23:00 bob     <<< only return from      tty24 [root@~]  sh ./bob07:02
intelikeytty24 [root@~]  ls -l07:02
intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37664 << the actual code07:02
theRealballchalkcool didnt know that was what LAMP stood for07:03
theRealballchalkwhat about SAMP07:03
hitmanWillytheRealballchalk, probably solaris07:04
theRealballchalkoh hah there is07:04
theRealballchalkgoogle yes07:04
rohoanyone know of a document that tells you how to change the icon for kmenu?07:04
TeraDyneroho: I've always wondered that as well...07:04
Jucatoroho: hold on a sec07:05
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DaSkreechthedude: what are you trying to do?07:05
Jucatoroho, TeraDyne: <apt> Instructions for changing the K menu icon: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2551958 . Alternatively, use kbfx07:05
Jucatosorry, that was more than 1 second :)07:06
TeraDyneJucato: Thanks07:06
underdog5004can someone help me with this script, please?       http://pastebin.com/93565807:06
rohoyeah, i've read that07:06
Dr_willisunderdog5004,  give a bit of a summery helps.07:06
rohobut i have no icons directory in $KDEDIR07:06
Jucatoroho: yes you do. $KDEDIR in Kubuntu is /usr07:07
Jucatoso that would be /usr/share/icons07:07
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rohoso would it be kdeclassic?07:07
underdog5004Dr_willis, lol, ok. I've got the outline, just a little trouble with syntax, I think. The script is going to look for .torrent files on my desktop. If they're there, then scp to server && rm Desktop/*.torrent. I'm not sure that I'm doing it the right way though...07:07
rohoer, i found it07:07
underdog5004like I said: http://pastebin.com/93565807:08
Daisuke_Idokbfx looks very shoddy and unprofessional :(07:08
LynoureDaisuke_Ido: nothing is forcing you to change it, and you can make it look more like it's in the menu business yourself, it being open source :)07:09
JucatoDaisuke_Ido: it's the only themeable K Menu alternative. (there's tasty menu now too)07:09
keisangiis there's a way to limit dolphin ftp session ?07:09
Daisuke_Ido1) i know, and so i don't, and 2) if i had the know-how, i would.07:09
Daisuke_Idoi personally advocate kickoff :)07:10
keisangisay, using only 2 ftp session, or just one.. alway use same session, doesn't create new connection .. cause my ftp server limit me at 2 concurent sessions a a time ..07:10
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underdog5004Dr_willis, any ideas? I'm really _really_ new at scripting07:13
intelikeyooops   pebcak07:14
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DaSkreechRaptor FTW!!!!07:15
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DaSkreechI forget waht pebcak is.07:15
DaSkreechOh right07:15
DaSkreechI used to write pebcak reports07:15
Rumbain a console (no ncurses-aptitude), how do i list all packages and their state (whether installe/uninstalled/automatically_installed/etc.)?07:15
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keisangino way for limiting the number of ftp session with dolphin or konqueror ?  ftp://user:pass@myftpserver.net  <--- use only 1 or 2 session max , for exemple ..07:16
osirisis burning mp3's though k3b also under the restriced formats how-to ?07:16
osirisi thought i did all that noise already07:17
intelikeyDaSkreech problem exists between chair and keyboard07:17
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intelikeyuser error07:17
intelikeyor L-user07:17
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intelikeyRumba dpkg -l07:18
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Rumbaintelikey: oh, forgot about dpkg, only verified all apt* options07:18
Rumbaintelikey: thanks much07:18
intelikeyRumba well that doesn't read the package database.07:18
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Rumbaintelikey: but what does it read instead?07:18
intelikeyRumba that is to say it will only list what is on the system not what is in the repos07:19
Rumbaintelikey: oh07:19
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intelikeyfor a full list from the repos       apt-cache search ' '     maybe07:19
ricticI've just discovered that kubuntu thinks that my laptop's lid is always closed.  I configured it to suspend when the laptop lid is closed, and now it suspends the moment I boot up.  Any advice?07:20
intelikeyboot a live cd and un-configure it07:21
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Rumbaintelikey: any idea how i can generate a list of automatically installed packages?07:21
ricticI can get into the console as well.  How would I go about changing this setting?07:21
intelikeyRumba look in /var/log/dpkg.log   maybe ?07:22
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Rumbaintelikey: no, there's a specific flag07:22
intelikeyRumba no that's not what you want...07:22
intelikeyRumba yes.  i can't think of it right now tho07:23
Rumbaintelikey: i just don't know how to force apt(itude) show it so that i could grep it out07:23
intelikeyman aptitude   ?07:23
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ricticAny idea where this setting lives, or a good place to look this information up?07:24
Rumbaintelikey: that's where i'm coming from, dude :)07:24
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Rumbaintelikey: chat is my last resort07:24
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intelikeyRumba heh.    i don't have aptitude installed...   someone else maybe.     i know what you are talking about i did that one time.   but it's been to long.07:25
akrushello, how to crop a part of video file? :D07:25
Daisuke_Idoget video editing software.07:25
akruswhich one? :)07:25
akrusI just need to cut a little piece of XviD file07:25
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DaSkreechI don't know of any idiot-proof type remastering software on Linux :(07:26
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intelikeyrictic not really.    /var/log/     on the installation     i really don't know.              DaSkreech might.07:26
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intelikeyDaSkreech know about suspend ?07:27
DaSkreechWhat about it?07:27
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intelikeyhow to turn it off from the live CD so he can boot to something besides suspend mode07:28
ricticDaSkreech do you know where the setting to suspend when a laptop lid is closed might live?07:28
DaSkreechWhat does the powermanagement?07:28
DaSkreech Guidance?07:28
ricticWhatever's the default, it's a fresh install of 7.0.407:29
elnimrwhat the most popular options for invoking xterm?07:29
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DaSkreechrictic: I'd boot up with a live Cd chroot and apt-get remove guidance07:29
intelikeyelnimr --setroot=black   ?07:29
elnimrit is black by default07:30
intelikeyelnimr glad they changed it07:30
ricticDaSkreech: ok, I'm booted in with a live cd, but I'm kind of a linux newb.  If I just "sudo apt-get remove guidance" that won't remove it from the install on the hard disk, will it?07:31
DaSkreechrictic: no07:31
elnimrcrap .... it is not working07:31
DaSkreechmount the hard drive with /07:31
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Simeon_HI thought dapper was Long Term Support07:32
Simeon_Hbut everyone has already forgotten it :/07:32
ricticDaSkreech: ok, I'll try that07:32
DaSkreechSimeon_H: :-)07:32
intelikeySimeon_H i'm using it.07:32
DaSkreechSimeon_H: intelikey is well acquainted with it07:32
intelikeyi wouldn't go that far...07:33
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Simeon_HI'm determined to use it on this computer untill support runs out07:33
intelikeysame here07:33
Simeon_Hhell I still have hoary ubuntu CD's lying around the place07:33
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intelikeySimeon_H do you use mostly console only ?07:34
Simeon_Honly when I'm on battery power07:35
Simeon_Hor do you mean like, with konsole?07:35
intelikeyshew good,   i was afraid i might have been talking to myself.....07:35
Simeon_Hwith KDE running, battery lasts about 45 minutes with the lid closed :D07:35
DaSkreechSimeon_H: he's anti X :)07:36
intelikeyi'm not against it.07:36
intelikeyam i ?07:36
Daisuke_Idoyou believe it is the spawn of cthulhu07:36
Simeon_Hdon't worry, I'm only sickened by people who say that Qt still isn't free07:36
Simeon_Hit's under the gpl man07:37
Daisuke_IdoSimeon_H: it isn't07:37
Simeon_Hthe gpl07:37
Daisuke_Idodepending on the platform and version.07:37
intelikeyDaisuke_Ido no the spawn of wyzwyg   heh07:37
Simeon_HI meant Qt4 for non commercial use07:37
Daisuke_Idothen yes, it's gpl'd and free for use on all platforms :)07:37
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underdog5004I'm in need of someone to help me with a script I'm writing. Any takers?07:37
Simeon_Hsee, one could make the argument that Qt is more free than GTK07:37
underdog5004Dr_willis, lol, ok. I've got the outline, just a little trouble with syntax, I think. The script is going to look for .torrent files on my desktop. If they're there, then scp to server && rm Desktop/*.torrent. I'm not sure that I'm doing it the right way though...07:38
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Simeon_Has companies are free to use it commercially if they pay07:38
intelikeyunderdog5004 language ?07:38
underdog5004intelikey, bash07:38
Daisuke_Idothat's not free then :)07:38
Simeon_Hyeah but free for everyone else07:38
DaSkreechunderdog5004: lines 7 and 8 would work07:39
underdog5004intelikey, I'm not too sure about getting the script to know when there are .torrent files on my desktop and when there aren't07:39
underdog5004intelikey, oh. wow.07:39
Simeon_Hlike... with GTK, people get pissy with you if you make closed source apps07:39
vbgunzhow can I use "mount" without needing sudo?07:39
underdog5004intelikey, of course, because when there aren't any, it doesn't matter!07:39
vbgunzmount/umount without needing sudo?07:39
Daisuke_Idothree strong drinks07:39
Simeon_Hlog in as root07:39
Daisuke_Idoand i'm off to bed.07:40
Simeon_Hheh man, it's 4 pm here07:40
Simeon_Hand I got up at 1pm07:40
ricticDaSkreech: any other ideas of what power-support might be installed?  I get "couldn't find package guidance"07:40
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DaSkreech!find guidance07:40
ubotuFound: kde-guidance, kde-guidance-powermanager07:41
ricticThanks DaSkreech07:41
Daisuke_Ido<ubotu> Found: god07:41
Daisuke_Idosudo apt-get install god07:42
Daisuke_IdoE: Couldn't find package god07:42
elnimrintelikey: those options for xterm arenot working07:42
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Daisuke_Idoif linux says it, it must be so.07:42
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Daisuke_Idoif i can't apt-get the bible, i don't want it :D07:42
Simeon_Hhey, I had an exchange student named Daisuke living here one time :D07:42
Simeon_Htheres Kbible07:43
DaSkreechDaisuke_Ido: you can07:43
DaSkreechand gnome-sword07:43
DaSkreech!find bible07:43
ubotuFound: bible-kjv, bible-kjv-text, bibledit, biblememorizer, bibletime (and 1 others)07:43
DaSkreechand bibletiem07:43
DaSkreech though I think that might be a game07:43
Daisuke_Idonow, are they equal opportunity?07:43
rictic!find ddate07:43
Daisuke_Ido!find mormon07:43
Daisuke_Idoit would seem not.07:43
ubotuFile ddate found in logwatch, util-linux07:43
ubotuPackage/file mormon does not exist in feisty07:44
DaSkreech!find koran07:44
ubotuPackage/file koran does not exist in feisty07:44
Daisuke_Idokoran or quran07:44
DaSkreechthere is a debian koran package though07:44
Daisuke_Idolinux has a definite christian bias...  of course that could be simple numbers.  tons of christians (that own a pcs and use linux), tons of christian software.07:45
intelikeyunderdog5004 can't you do all that in two lines ?07:45
intelikeyscp $HOME/Desktop/*.torrent  pegasus:$HOME/rtorrent/torre07:45
intelikeyrm /home/matthew/Desktop/*.torrent07:45
underdog5004intelikey, yup07:45
DaSkreechDaisuke_Ido: Yeah I just said that Debian has islamic software as well :)07:45
underdog5004you rock07:45
intelikeyactually   rm $HOME/Desktop/*.torrent07:45
DaSkreechintelikey: yeah lines 7 and 807:46
intelikeyon the last line    then it's portable07:46
underdog5004portability is good07:46
intelikeyunderdog5004  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3766507:46
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underdog5004already implemented, thanks07:47
elnimrdaSkreech: it would be very convenient if there is a prayer timings program in ubuntu07:47
intelikeyi wasn't sure if the address was what you really wanted there   " pegasus:$HOME/rtorrent/torre  "07:47
DaSkreechelnimr: What kind of prayer timings?07:48
underdog5004also, if I want it to run every minute, do I just put *'s in every field for crontab?07:48
intelikeythat sounds right07:48
elnimrthe five daily prayers07:48
intelikeyunderdog5004 that's probably overkill  mayb a 10minute laps ?07:49
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underdog5004intelikey, meh...you think it'll impact performance?07:49
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intelikeynetwork maybe  how fast is your network ?07:49
underdog5004.torrents are kilobytes though07:50
intelikeywell probably not then.  you can always slow the timmer down if it does07:50
DaSkreechelnimr: as far as I know they don't have any in ubuntu they do in Debian07:50
DaSkreechelnimr: that's islamic right?07:50
DaSkreechelnimr: there is a ubuntu islamic edition that had a single release07:50
ricticDaSkreech: Thanks again, my laptop now boots without immediately going to sleep:)07:51
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DaSkreechrictic: there you go. You can move the settings files and then reinstall then make things righter07:52
underdog5004intelikey, I'm not to knowledgable about crontab...when I input a new entry, will it start immediately?07:52
ricticDaSkreech: Cool.  How would I find out where the settings files for it would be?07:52
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intelikey<elnimr> intelikey: those options for xterm arenot working <<< i only mentioned one.   the --purge ws fro rictic so his command would remove the config file too.    sorry.07:52
DaSkreech.kde I'm guessing07:52
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DaSkreechunderdog5004: as soon as you save07:53
intelikeyunderdog5004 if cron is running     i think so.07:53
underdog5004hmm, cron _should_ be running as default, right?07:53
intelikeybut you maybe running anacron   which i havent' played with07:53
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intelikeyps aux07:54
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underdog5004root      4417  0.0  0.0   2196   864 ?        Ss   Jun23   0:00 /usr/sbin/cron07:54
underdog5004looks like it's running07:54
intelikeywell there ya go07:54
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intelikeyi setup cron one time just learning how... only time it ever ran here   heh07:55
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intelikeyi may not be anti X   but i am anti-automatic crap.07:56
underdog5004although it should be running, the .torrent file isn't moving and I appended date > $HOME/torrent.log to the end to make sure it's running, but there isn't any entries in that file...07:56
DaSkreechintelikey: sounds like you should run gentoo07:57
intelikeyi don't like to compile tho07:57
underdog5004it takes forever!07:57
underdog5004the compiling...07:57
intelikeyspecally on a p107:57
underdog5004I compiled kde for gentoo...took over 24 hours@07:57
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underdog5004lol, I was on a PIII07:58
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intelikeyunderdog5004 can i see the line in your crontab ?07:59
TeraDyneunderdog5004:  Wow. That's insane. Then again, time is why I rarely compile apps.07:59
underdog5004  * *  * * * /home/matthew/.torrent.sh07:59
intelikeyno user entry07:59
underdog5004  * *  * * * matthew /home/matthew/.torrent.sh08:00
intelikey* * * * * matthew /home/matthew/.torrent.sh08:00
underdog5004thank you very much...I guess that's why nothing else was working either! I love you!08:00
underdog5004in a platonic sense...08:01
TeraDyneunderdog5004: I would hope... I think...08:01
intelikeyohh kay !08:01
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intelikeyunderdog5004 it works now ?08:03
DaSkreechintelikey: if not you are sleeping on the couch08:04
underdog5004hmmm...not yet...should I do su - matthew ? I know that's bad practice....08:04
underdog5004should I put &&08:04
underdog5004at the end of every line?08:04
underdog5004except the last08:04
intelikeyi think that would error out08:05
intelikeycheck the cron logs and see what's going on08:05
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intelikeyshoot fire gota run08:06
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DaSkreechAnd yet hell is so hot!08:11
DaSkreechGive me back my hands08:11
DaSkreech YOU'RE NOT NICE!08:11
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underdog5004darn, it's still not working...any ideas, DaSkreech ?08:11
DaSkreechHave you tried the script itself?08:12
underdog5004yep, works like a charm08:12
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DaSkreechDoubt it has anything to do with anything but I'd put it in /usr/share/bin and make it root executable08:14
underdog5004chmod +x script.sh?08:15
underdog5004/usr/share/bin is not a directory...08:16
underdog5004lol, nvm08:17
underdog5004oh. shit.08:17
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:17
underdog5004I think I just overwrote my /usr/share/bin with my .torrent.sh script08:17
underdog5004I'm freaking out here.08:18
underdog5004what do I do?08:18
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underdog5004I'm sorry about my language08:19
underdog5004was there anything important in there? Can I just rm /usr/share/bin and then mkdir /usr/share/bin?08:20
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underdog5004that's what I did...my system hasn't come crashing down yet...sorry for the language08:22
DaSkreechUmm might be /usr/bin :)08:22
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TeraDyneI don't have a /usr/share/bin, so I doubt it's important.08:22
underdog5004what's in /usr/share/bin?08:23
DaSkreechMy imagination?08:23
underdog5004I'm so glad08:23
underdog5004anytime I start messing around in /usr as su, I get nervous08:24
TeraDyneApparently, windows exists there08:24
underdog5004good thing it's non-existant then, huh?08:24
TeraDyneExactly. Though, if I didn't have to let my uncle play his poker game, I'd blow windows off of my desktop and plop Ubuntu on it.08:25
DaSkreechTeraDyne: try wine08:25
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TeraDyneDaSkreech: Doesn't work. Requires IE6 and flash, and even adding them via ies4linux doesn't work.08:26
underdog5004DaSkreech, ok, that's still not working...maybe run as su - matthew ?08:26
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ubotucron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm08:27
DaSkreechunderdog5004: there you go08:27
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DaSkreech Good night all08:27
underdog5004*sigh* time to figure stuff out for myself08:27
underdog5004good night08:27
underdog5004thank you08:27
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)08:27
TeraDyneI'm off to bed as well. Time to set as away...08:28
underdog5004good night08:28
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luna_i'm in China,and now is afternoon here08:47
bassetoo bad. :)08:48
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c1|freakyi'm in germany. its 8:52am here ;p08:52
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bassethats better08:54
bassei'm in finland..08:54
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c1|freakywhat timezone is finland in?08:57
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vbgunzanyone know how a regular user like myself can use mount/umount without using sudo or logging in as root?09:12
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Jucato!fstab | vbgunz09:17
ubotuvbgunz: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions09:17
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vbgunzJucato: thanks, am also looking at fuseiso at the moment, though I might prefer fstab :)09:18
Jucatovbgunz: fstab is simpler. with the correct option, you can just use "mount <mount point>" with no problem09:18
Jucatobut I'm no fstab expert myself :)09:18
Jucatoanything related to hardware and networking, I'm a noob :)09:19
vbgunzJucato: I remember reading something up on that using a device block or something like that e.g., /dev/sdax, etc. problem is, with what I read earlier it made no sense as my iso's have different names... I'll look at the link, hopefully I can find a good example :)09:19
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vbgunzI would seriously prefer fstab though :)09:20
Jucatomounting ISO's?09:20
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vbgunzJucato: that looks great09:20
Jucatothere's also thi09:20
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.09:20
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vbgunzJucato: yeah, I have a dozen iso's of home family movies and stuff. I have no problem mounting them with sudo *but* I get really tired of the password prompt rather quickly09:21
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vbgunzJucato: major thanks for that link, looks excellent, something I really need to read. major thanks :D09:22
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AutoMatriXhi folks09:37
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rierhi all09:42
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rieri have some problems with my new system AMD64 - the browser don't support java-runtime, flashplayer and so on09:44
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava09:44
rierok - thanks09:46
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Mamanhi all, can anyone help on how to crack .rar password in ubuntu/kubuntu/linux , i'm loosing the password10:33
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Maman hi all, can anyone help on how to crack .rar password in ubuntu/kubuntu/linux , i'm loosing the password10:37
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[Al] chemist_exdoes compiz fusion have a channel?10:51
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mat1980[Al] chemist_ex: look for it in http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/10:54
mat1980[Al] chemist_ex: for only freenode channels http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode10:55
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[Al] chemist_exthank you10:56
hiyahhow to check the version of a module like aacraid ?10:56
crocodilehow do you, you mean?10:57
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fritzneed some help in installing some themes for kubuntu..any1 free 4 pestering...i know what to do..just don't know how to do it:-/11:03
tmbginstant pestering! streaming broadbrain!11:03
zanderhow do i add the #gnewsense to my chanels?  as it  were... i am new at the irc thing...11:03
zanderwell i could just klieeq on the blue link...11:04
hiyahhow to check the version of a module like aacraid ?11:06
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fritzneed some help in installing some themes for kubuntu..any1 free 4 pestering...i know what to do..just don't know how to do it:-/11:07
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ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects11:08
fritzdon't want beryl11:08
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fritzcause it runns really slow on my machine11:08
fritzjust want to make everythin transparent11:08
fritzand change the colors in kde11:08
crocodilecrocodile - this is a test talking to myself11:09
ManiDhillon '<  Anyone here11:09
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jorik808does anyone know a program to cut n paste up wav files ?11:13
Jucato!info audacity11:14
ubotuaudacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2032 kB, installed size 6016 kB11:14
Jucatojorik808: ^^^11:14
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jorik808Jucato: excellent11:16
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GerritIn knetworkmanager, where can I find what the different icons mean?11:59
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:05
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:05
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michal_katowicehi all, I have a problem....12:11
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mat1980michal_katowice: what?12:12
michal_katowiceIf i created a very simple script like !#/bin/sh <next line> amarok12:12
michal_katowiceand i placed it on desktop12:12
michal_katowicewhat should i do if i want to attache my own icon to this script?12:12
michal_katowiceinstead of basic kde icon.12:13
icecrunchermichal_katowice: right click on it the properties, here you can change it by clicking on the picture of the icon12:14
michal_katowiceThank you12:17
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Ind[y] A good DAV client?12:19
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Ind[y] Could somebody recommend me a DAV client?12:22
icecruncherInd[y] : DAV? meaning...12:22
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Ind[y] A GUI DAV client.12:24
Ind[y] Could somebody recommend me a GUI DAV client please?12:25
icecruncherInd[y] : sorry, but wht is DAV? lol12:25
Ind[y] oh, never mins12:25
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Ind[y] *mind12:25
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linux_crdlb: you there?12:37
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aleksanterilinux_, he seems to be away12:38
aleksanteriat least he has /away set12:38
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linux_He helped me to set beryl on my laptop12:39
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linux_After i rebooted12:39
linux_Beryl stopped12:39
linux_I dunno how to run it again using the termanal12:39
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crdlblinux_, join #ubuntu-effects12:39
nimble_anyone know why partition i just formatted as ext3 has 15gb used space?12:40
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ciaconcan someone help me with my v4linux problem?? --> http://pastebin.ca/58810712:46
aleksanteriare you root?12:46
ciaconsame problem when using sudo12:48
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aldinhi, i need to find if my distro is ubuntu, how do i find it, i need it for one script and i need only "ubuntu" or "Ubuntu" as result, thanks in advance12:50
Jucatoaldin: lsb_release --id12:51
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aldinJucato: that is good, but how do i get rid of "distributor" i want to get pure "ubuntu", how do i grep so it only says ubuntu?12:53
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Jucatohm... dunno...12:54
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Dragonhello :-)12:57
Dragoncan any1 help me free my memory? every time i run a program it uses memory but when i close tht program its still useing tht memory :-\ how do i fix this??12:59
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LynoureDragon: Are you running out of memory?12:59
Dragonif i use my computer for a while yes .....12:59
LynoureDragon: if not, don't worry about it, it's normal.12:59
aleksanteridarn aldin left i had the command for him :P01:00
LynoureDragon: and by running out I mean programs erroring or shutting down because of it. Near 100% use is normal.01:00
Dragonif i use my computer for a while i run out of memory and it starts useing swap01:00
Dragonwhen it starts useing swap i usually restart my computer witch frees up my memory for a while01:01
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flowingfireHi there.  Does anybody know what I need to do to get a presentation to show up on my televiaion?  I have a svideo cable connected... no picture yet01:09
flowingfirehmm... mabye I'll try #ubuntu01:09
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ciaconany hint what this could mean??  ==>>>        sudo insmod /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/extra/ov51x-jpeg.ko          insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/extra/ov51x-jpeg.ko': -1 File exists01:21
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fritzcan any1 assist me in a problem?...i want to install gizmo 2 be able 2 make calls on messenger...i donwloaded the files onto my desktop...now what....how do i make adept see them?01:23
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DragnslcrDepends on what kind of files you downloaded01:24
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fritzi just want to install that darn gizmo :(.... http://www.gizmoproject.com/download-linux.html here's the download site01:27
fritzit says download and then install...easyer said then done i'm affraid01:27
DragnslcrAnd they don't have installation instructions?01:28
DragnslcrWhat kind of file did you download?01:28
fritzdid you look on the site?...i downloaded the debian files....01:29
Tm_Tfritz: yes, just rightclick and select install01:29
fritzi'm running kubuntu feisty right now...01:29
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DragnslcrIf you download .deb files, you can probably just open/run them and KDE will know what to do01:32
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fritzi love kubuntu01:36
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user1_kubuntu does not love me :(01:37
Tm_Tyes it does, in its own way01:37
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user1_kubuntu does not install properly01:39
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user1_it complains hard drive failure01:40
user1_at some certain file01:40
user1_i checked hardware with ultimate boot cd01:41
user1_no hard drive problme whatsoever01:41
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Tm_Tuser1_: have you tried other install media, checked install media, or something else?01:43
user1_same cd installs on laptop fine01:44
Tm_Tdoesn't matter01:45
Tm_Tcheck it, try some other, whatever01:45
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nightbBonjour tout le monde01:46
Tm_Tnightb: moin01:46
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nightb"moin" ?01:47
Tm_Tnightb: "bonjour" ? (;01:47
egon_wath happend with the adept? it wont start :(01:48
Tm_Tegon_: well, mind to be more exact?01:48
nightbOh sorry I've think that I am in a French channel01:48
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Tm_Tnightb: heh, youre not (:01:49
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egon_if i want to start the Adept, the adept told me that my Apt Files are Damaged01:49
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nightbTm_T => You are from Finland ?01:49
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egon_but in the terminal i can use the "apt-get update" oder "Upgrade01:50
Tm_Tegon_: what the exact error is?01:50
nightbOk, so do you know Lordi ?01:50
Tm_T!offtopic | nightb01:51
ubotunightb: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:51
Tm_Tnp (:01:51
Tm_Tyou are free to join us in #kubuntu-offtopic01:51
Dusk_can someone help me with my xorg.conf http://rafb.net/p/PkK9PU23.hatml01:52
Dusk_i can't get 3d-acc01:52
egon_The Apt-Database is not clean, maybe the Database is Damaged. Please try "sudo apt-get update" in the Termial to repair it.01:53
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fritzok great...it can't call yahoo:((01:53
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Tm_T!adeptcrashfix | egon_01:54
ubotuegon_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:54
fritzdoes any1 know how I can make a call on yahoo...using anything?01:54
Tm_Tdunno if that works01:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:54
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Tm_TDusk_: hum, does "ati" driver have 3d capability?01:54
Tm_Tor was it some other driver01:54
Tm_TI think fglrx atleast has something01:54
Dusk_Tm_T: it must have 3d capability01:55
egon_It wont Help :(01:55
Dusk_Tm_T: i installed fglrx from howto binaries document01:55
chxFrom time to time my keyboard just stops operating. If I log out and log in it works again. Not a hardware problem, tried with different keyboard, on PS/2 on USB both. KDE . VERY frustrating.01:55
fritzdoes any1 know how I can make a call on yahoo...using anything?01:55
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chxIt's only since I upped to Feisty.01:55
egon_well gut use gutsy so maybe thats the peroblem xD01:55
Tm_TDusk_: yes, but you're still using ati driver, not fglrx01:55
egon_gut = but01:55
Dusk_Tm_T: how can i use fglrx?01:56
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Dusk_Tm_T: i changed "ati" to "fglx" in xorg.conf01:56
Tm_TDusk_: change  driver "ati" to "fglrx"01:56
Tm_TDusk_: yes but your paste shows other01:56
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Dusk_Tm_T: because when i do it the graphic base can't open01:56
Tm_Tthen check what error you get then01:57
Dusk_Tm_T: look what i have when i try to check out direct rendering01:57
Dusk_glxinfo | glep "rendering"01:58
Dusk_Tm_T: was this like that?01:58
Tm_Tone wayyes01:58
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Dusk_Tm_T: http://rafb.net/p/D4HA9T32.html01:59
Dusk_Tm_T: here is the outpost01:59
Tm_TDusk_: ok, and you have what driver atm enabled?01:59
Tm_Tlet me guess, "ati"02:00
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crdlbDusk_, what card do you have?02:00
Dusk_crdlb: 9600xt02:01
crdlbDusk_, why use fglrx  then?02:01
Dusk_crdlb: i only want a good 3d acc. what should i do?02:01
crdlbDusk_, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:02
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Dusk_Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server02:02
Dusk_Xlib: No protocol specified02:02
Dusk_kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.002:03
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:03
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dhomecan anyone help me regarding sound device?02:09
dhomeim a newbie in kubuntu02:09
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dhomehello kexman02:09
dhomecan you please help me regarding sound device02:10
dhomeim a newbie here02:10
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dhomecan you please help me regarding sound device02:10
Rumbahow do i get a list of _all_ packages that are _marked_ as autoremovable (i.e. not just those ones that are currently removable (i.e. are not used by any other packages))?02:10
Tm_T!sound | dhome02:10
ubotudhome: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP302:10
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kexmancan anyone tell me what these mountpoint are usefull for ? http://rafb.net/p/6aIAMS51.html ?02:11
dhomethanks! ill try that02:11
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dhomeubotu my "enable sound system" is checke02:12
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:12
dhomecan you please help me regarding sound device02:12
kexmandhome: wtf is with it ?02:13
dhomei dony hear anysound.. and my amarok hangs02:13
dhomei dont hear anysound.. and my amarok hangs02:13
kexmandont use amarok02:13
dhomeim a newbie here..02:13
dhomeeven kaffeine is hanging.. :(02:14
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dhomethe speaker icon is muted..02:14
dhomei dont know what to do02:14
dhomeim just a newbie here02:15
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dhomecan anyone please help me regarding sound device02:16
ardchoille!patience | dhome02:16
ubotudhome: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines02:16
Dusk_Tm_T: i will only change driver "ati" to "fglrx" or also board "ati"??02:16
dhomeim very sorry, im really newbie here02:17
ardchoillekexman: That is not welcome here.02:17
kexmanthen you need to read02:17
eagles0513875dhome whats ur problem dude02:17
kexmanardchoille: dehh02:17
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dhomei dont here any sound02:17
eagles0513875and what pkg do i need to download to play avi files02:17
kexmanwell if you spoon feed him he wont learn shit02:18
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kexmaneagles0513875: try mplayer / vlc02:18
eagles0513875kexman: rnt we here to help people who have problems02:18
eagles0513875and i seem to learn when someone else shows me02:18
dhomethe speaker is muted02:18
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eagles0513875u fixed it lol02:18
Dragnslcrdhome- did you try unmuting it then?02:19
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kexmaneagles0513875: ehh ... you need to read stuff then ask specific questions ... imho02:19
kexmandhome: does it work now ?02:19
Rumbahow do i get a list of _all_ packages that are _marked_ as autoremovable (i.e. not just those ones that are _currently_ removable)?02:19
kexmanwhat card do you have ?02:19
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dhomeit is already set to the highest level02:19
kexmanwhat kernel ? does the kernel have sound support built in or as a module ?02:19
kexmandhome: middle will suffice02:19
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kexmandid you had sound before ?02:20
dhomei think the problem is the sound driver02:20
dhomebut i dont know how to fix it02:20
dhomein my desktop the sound is working.. but i cant fix it in my notebool02:21
dhomein my desktop the sound is working.. but i cant fix it in my notebook02:21
eagles0513875what kind of notebook is it02:21
dhometoshiba A10002:21
eagles0513875ok do u know how to open up the mixer02:21
eagles0513875open it up02:22
dhomeits already open02:22
eagles0513875u see the colum that looks like sound wave symbol02:22
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eagles0513875is the light under it light green02:22
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eagles0513875and 2ndly have u installed the latest updated packages02:23
dhomei cant see any column that looks like sound wave symbol02:23
eagles0513875open up a command line02:23
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dhomeok.. then..02:23
eagles0513875and in there type in sudo apt-get dist-update02:23
eagles0513875the password for sudo is ur password u use to login02:24
eagles0513875that will update any packages that have had a newer version released02:24
dhomeit says invalid operation dist-update02:25
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dhomeis there any other way to update?02:27
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ardchoilledhome: sudo apt-get dis-upgrade02:27
ardchoilledhome: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:27
ardchoilleThere is no dist-update02:27
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dhomeits updating now02:28
dhomethanks ardchoille02:28
ardchoilleYou're welcome :)02:28
eagles0513875sry my mistake02:28
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eagles0513875dhome: its also goign to install a new updated kernel so once its done updating reboot and load the newest kernel version and see if that helps with ur audio issue02:29
dhomeok.. thank you so much02:30
dhomei really appreciated it02:30
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eagles0513875if it doesnt come back here and we will help u trouble shoot some more02:31
ardchoilledhome: Which ubuntu are you using? Feisty? Edgy?02:31
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ardchoilleBEst distro around, IMHO.02:32
eagles0513875same here02:32
eagles0513875im running the 64bit version of feisty02:32
Tm_Taww, boys, no need to mention it here (;02:32
eagles0513875best 64bit os around lol02:32
eagles0513875mention what:(02:32
dhomeim just using 32bit since my processor is only dual core02:33
Tm_Tthat Kubuntu is the best (ofcourse it is)02:33
ardchoilleI've been running Ubuntu since warty was released and the biggest problem I have ever had was how to change the menu icon, lol02:33
eagles0513875dhome: amd or intel02:33
eagles0513875i found out bout this through a professor at my university02:33
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eagles0513875rnt all the newer intel processor both 32bit and 64bit compatible02:33
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eagles0513875or am i just completely wrong in thinking that02:34
Tm_Tno idea02:34
Tm_Tnor doesn't matter02:34
Tm_Tthere's no real advantage using 64bit os unless you _really_ need it02:34
eagles0513875if it is dhome can run a 64bit version02:34
Tm_Tand I haven't met one yet02:34
Tm_Teagles0513875: well, that usually just bring problems02:35
eagles0513875lol once i can figure out some 3danimation stuff with blender it will come in handy02:35
Tm_Teagles0513875: might come02:35
eagles0513875Tm_T: with feisty x86_64 i havent had any problems except ones i create lol02:35
dhomeare you guys developer/programmer?02:35
eagles0513875once i take a programming class in college thsi fall ill start doign some developing and programming lol02:36
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ardchoilledhome: I'm a graphics artist and skinner.. I coudn't code to save my life.02:36
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Tm_Teagles0513875: well, for "newbie user" 64bit means no flash no w23codecs no... bah02:36
TheInfinitydhome: somehow yes, but not on a large application, just somehow 4fun ;)02:36
eagles0513875nice any pkgs out there urs TheInfinity02:36
Tm_Tdhome: Kubuntu/KDE dev (they say)02:36
dhomeactually im a windows developer (.net)02:37
dhomei just want to try new things02:37
dhomeand learn02:37
TheInfinityno - as i sayd - just 4fun02:37
eagles0513875dhome: do not metion windos aka winblows round here lol02:37
ardchoilledhome: You might look into mono02:37
dhomeim sorry02:37
eagles0513875its ok lol02:37
TheInfinityi try to learn qt soon ;)02:37
eagles0513875if i could only get world of warcraft to work with better frame rates with wine im going to chunk winblows all together02:37
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eagles0513875Tm_T: only useful thing for me running 64bit is that i do alot of video editing and audio encoding02:38
Tm_Teagles0513875: I know02:38
Tm_Teagles0513875: and that's not what dhome will do in that scale02:38
eagles0513875anyone interested in a kool website for free webhosting and i literally mean free02:39
dhomewhat applications in linux that can run wind**s program?02:39
eagles0513875wine its a windows emulator02:39
dhomei see..02:39
dhomeill check it later after the update02:39
Simeon_Hit's not02:39
Tm_Teagles0513875: noooo, not emulator02:39
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Simeon_Hit actually stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator"02:40
eagles0513875what is it then Tm_T02:40
Tm_Teagles0513875: compatibility layer02:40
Simeon_Hit's a compatibility layer02:40
eagles0513875dhome: then im wrong02:40
Tm_T!wine | dhome02:40
eagles0513875i just learnt something new02:40
ubotudhome: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.02:40
ardchoilledhome: If you're going to run wine, you might want anti-virus apps.02:40
dhome....nice... im starting to learn here... :p02:40
Simeon_Hdon't call it GNU/Linux02:41
ardchoilledhome: Because wine will run windows viruses/trojans/worms/etc:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7259802:41
Simeon_Hit's too confusing ;_;02:41
Simeon_Hyeah I got hit by one02:41
eagles0513875something else that amazes me is that aegis picks up viruses on my winblows partition that avg doesnt even pic up02:41
eagles0513875or its a bug in aegis coding that pics up stuff that isnt really infected02:41
ardchoillefalse positives?02:42
eagles0513875i dunno im afraid to remove anything lol off that partition02:42
eagles0513875not sure if they r viruses or not02:42
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eagles0513875if anyone is truely interested in literally adn truly free webhosting go to www.x10hosting.com02:43
dhomeomg upgrade really takes time :(02:43
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Simeon_Hfree as in speech hosting?02:43
eagles0513875u cant put up pornographic images or copyrighted music or anything like that02:44
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eagles0513875u would have to read the tos02:44
ardchoilleeagles0513875: This is not the place for that.02:44
dhomeguys, how do i check my internet speed?02:44
eagles0513875ok back to providing support02:44
eagles0513875go to www.speedtest.net02:44
eagles0513875what kind of connection r u on dhome02:45
dhomebroadband.... in philippines it is called SmartBro02:45
eagles0513875ok try the site i mentioned above02:45
eagles0513875do u know what kind of download speed ur supposed to be getting and the upload speed to02:45
dhomethey said 384kbps02:46
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eagles0513875honestly at that speed it is goign to take some time02:46
eagles0513875especially when there r alot of pkgs to upgrade02:46
dhomei know :(02:46
liviuanybody here from romania?02:46
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frojnddoes anyone know  for any program that is for linux and windows to chat via LAN ?02:47
eagles0513875dhome: ur lucky u rnt doing a fully upgrade from one version to the next02:47
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eagles0513875cuz ull be there for a couple of hrs02:47
dhomeeagles: where you from?02:48
eagles0513875dhome: is this the first linux distro uve played round with02:48
eagles0513875usa but in europe visiting family for the summer02:48
dhomei just installed it a couples of hours ago :D02:48
dhomei just installed it a couple of hours ago :D02:49
eagles0513875thats kool02:49
eagles0513875dhome | !register02:49
dhomeregister where?02:49
eagles0513875!register | dhome02:50
ubotudhome: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration02:50
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Simeon_Hbe warned that linux will make it hard for you to get chicks :/02:50
eagles0513875y do u say that02:50
see-gSimeon_H: depends on what kind of chick you're after02:50
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eagles0513875dhome: register cuz that way u will be able to talk to people one on one if ur working specifically with an individual to solve ur problem02:50
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eagles0513875elaborate see02:51
daquinoshouldn't there be some type of warning that your battery is going critically low ?02:51
daquinoalso if you close the laptop lid with ac power then unplug the ac power it never goes into suspend mode02:51
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eagles0513875there is a power manager and for me it warns me when my comp is low on battery02:52
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eagles0513875not sure bout the suspend mode02:52
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Simeon_Hyeah mine gets one02:53
Simeon_Hit goes beep and says battery power is running out02:53
eagles0513875daquino: u using feisty or edgy02:53
eagles0513875hi daniela lol nice to see a lady in the channel lol02:53
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eagles0513875one thing i really want to develop is a linux based point of sales system.02:57
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eagles0513875more like a kubuntu based point of sales system lol02:57
Tm_Teagles0513875: hum?02:57
Simeon_Hyeah then we could have all da supermarkets running linux02:57
eagles0513875register program lol02:57
LynoureSimeon_H: actually many POS are already linux02:58
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dadanwhere i can get quicktime for feisty02:58
Lynouremost, even02:58
eagles0513875Lynoure: what kind of programs and could i get a link plz02:58
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:58
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eagles0513875to a good one cuz ive searched for one but all i find r s*** linux point of sales software02:58
Lynoureeagles0513875: I'm at work now, and cannot remember names, so you can probably google as well as I02:59
Lynoureeagles0513875: s***?02:59
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eagles0513875another word for poo lol02:59
Lynoureeagles0513875: I was not talking about OSS ones, mind you02:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gyachi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:59
eagles0513875wat u mean by oss02:59
Lynoureeagles0513875: but the commercial POS systems02:59
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Lynoureeagles0513875: open source software02:59
fritzi just installed the kde4 pakage from adept..now how do I set it up?02:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gyach - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:00
eagles0513875the open source ones sux balls that is y i want to develop a really good oss one03:00
aleksanteri!info gyach03:00
ubotuPackage gyach does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:00
aleksanteri!info gyachi03:00
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:00
ubotuPackage gyachi does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas03:00
eagles0513875what is gyachi03:00
BluesKajfritz, at the login menu03:00
fritzi just installed the kde4 pakage from adept..now how do I set it up?03:00
eagles0513875!patience | fritz03:01
ubotufritz: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:01
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fritzsorry...didn't mean 2 offend, i just thought you guys may miss out on requests because there are so many ^.^03:02
BluesKajsome ppl need instant gratification, eagles0513875 :)03:02
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BluesKajfritz, have you rebooted since the install ?03:03
eagles0513875lol that is so wrong03:03
fritzmnope..kept looking in system settings....i'm dumb I know :))03:03
fritzwill do that just now:)03:03
eagles0513875fritz only reason i said that i didnt want u to spam urself out of the channel03:03
eagles0513875not spam i meant flood03:03
BluesKajtry the reboot the new version should pop up a set up dialog03:04
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fritzthnx apreciate it ^.^03:04
eagles0513875good luck with kde403:04
eagles0513875r the kde4 pkgs in the repositories03:04
fritzrestarting 2 check out kde 4 :D03:04
eagles0513875r the pkgs in the repositories03:04
fritz...i'm not sure...i did a basic pakage install...so everything should be fine...right?03:05
eagles0513875nm found them in the repositories lol03:05
eagles0513875good luck03:06
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BluesKajbe the first on your block ...    :>)03:06
dadan!crossover office03:06
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daquinoeagles0513875: fiesty03:07
eagles0513875ok there should be a lil battery near ur clock on bottom right03:07
GerritWat program is responsible for the intelligent tab completion that makes that if I type 'latex <tab>' it shows *.tex? Where is this configured?03:07
eagles0513875that is the power manager that should be what tells u when ur battery is low if its not there u accidentally closed out of it and told it not to start at start up03:08
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eagles0513875the program that u need to start is called power manager03:08
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fritzwell nothing....i installed everything from adept...but it's still exactly the same:(03:09
daquinoeagles0513875:  no shit...03:09
daquinoi said "WE NEED A WARNING"03:10
daquinoit doesn't tell you when your battery is about to die it just dies....03:10
Simeon_Hmine tells me03:10
daquinooh it jumps up and says , "dude your battery is low plug in the power!" ?03:10
BluesKajfritz , did you check your login menu?03:10
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eagles0513875yes daquino03:10
daquinomine just dies03:10
Simeon_Hright click, choose configure Klaptop03:10
Simeon_Hand go to the low battery warning tab03:11
fritzummm...no....i'm a newb...darn it03:11
daquinoall i get is a power management window03:11
Simeon_His Klaptop installed?03:11
BluesKajfritz, it may not be there03:11
daquinoand i dont get that option when i right click03:11
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fritzwell i installed it from adept...so what can be wrong...:-/03:12
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BluesKajfritz, check konq , help, about kde03:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aero - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:12
daquinowell i have a power symbol ... what else could it be !03:12
eagles0513875run sudo apt-get update and see if it finds any updated pkgs03:12
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eagles0513875look under battery powered in there03:12
dhomewhats the big difference bet Ubuntu and Kubuntu(except that kubuntu uses KDE instead of GNOME)03:12
BluesKajdadan, no blasphemy please03:13
eagles0513875that is only difference dhome and some programs r different03:13
eagles0513875i hate gnome to be honest lol03:13
fritzhow do i know if it did find anything?03:13
dhomewhy do you hate it03:13
Simeon_HI dislike it03:13
eagles0513875bottow right there is a box with an exclamation03:13
Simeon_Hit made me feel bad after seeing KDE03:13
eagles0513875i run into more problems with it than i do kde03:13
eagles0513875kde is actually much better developed03:14
Simeon_H(I saw KDE first)03:14
BluesKajfritz, check konqueror/help/about kde...that will tell you which LDE version03:14
dhomei never saw gnome lol03:14
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eagles0513875lol i dont remember which i saw first03:14
Simeon_HGNOME just sprouted out of KDE's licencing issues03:14
dhomethis is my first linux03:14
eagles0513875i remember starting wiht suse 9.0 pro03:14
eagles0513875stick with kde dude03:14
dhomethanks for the advice03:14
dhomeactually im already planning to download UBUNTU...03:15
dhomebut it changed my mind03:15
Lynouredhome: try both, think for yourself :)03:15
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dhomelynoure: ill check if when i have time03:16
Lynoureyou do not even need to download whole ubuntu, just ubuntu-desktop.03:16
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eagles0513875how can u log into gnomer if ur running kubuntu does it appeaer when u log in as an option which desktop to log into03:16
dhomemy internet speed su**s :(03:16
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eagles0513875mines not much better03:17
eagles0513875the isp im with while im ovr here limits bandwith during the day and only from 11pm to 7am is it unrestricted03:18
eagles0513875i think my max down speed is 2mb03:18
eagles0513875when its not limited like it is now lol03:18
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eagles0513875in the us its faster still lol03:19
fritzindeed it;s not there..the kde 4...seems like it didn't install after all.......03:19
Simeon_HI get 64kbps capped :/03:19
dhomein philippines 2mbps is very very expensive lol03:19
eagles0513875in us for decent cable connection its 50usd a month03:20
Lynoureeagles0513875: gnome appears as an option for a session, if I recall right03:20
Simeon_Happarently is getting some broadband internet overhaul03:20
Simeon_Hlike in fedora?03:20
Simeon_H*australia is03:20
eagles0513875im getting a stable 1mbps down on a torrent im downloading03:20
eagles0513875in what way03:20
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:20
Simeon_Hstfu Jucato03:21
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Simeon_Huh oh03:21
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Lynourethe things kids think are funny...03:21
ubotuWords like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.03:21
dhomeooops! im out for a moment.. better get my laundry b4 the shop closes lol03:21
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eagles0513875Lynoure: u would have to install the gnome pkgs no to be able to use it no03:21
Tm_Toh boy03:22
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eagles0513875dang hes good lol03:22
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Lynoureeagles0513875: just ubuntu-desktop, one big meta package03:22
fritzany1 have any udeea what the problem with my kde 4 instalation is...i just regularly installed the package inside the feisty fawn adept03:22
daquinook i installed klaptopdaemon03:22
eagles0513875ok ill have to try that some time03:23
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eagles0513875fritz u know its still alpha right03:23
fritzknow that...don't exactly know what that means ^.^03:24
Tm_Tfritz: it's highly broken03:24
BluesKajnew and unstable03:24
Tm_Tfritz: that mean,s not for users, but only developers03:24
Tm_T!kde4 | fritz03:24
ubotufritz: For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org03:24
Jucatofritz: unless you plan on helping out, of course :)03:24
eagles0513875dont risk unless ur not afriad of reinstalling or developing03:24
Tm_Twell helping covers developing :p03:25
eagles0513875fritz can program lol03:25
Jucatosome people think developing == programming only :)03:25
Tm_Tit's totally wrong03:25
eagles0513875i know its not like i hate to say this beta tested vista lol03:25
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Jucatobut there's also looking for bugs, HIG hunting, etc in this case03:25
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Tm_Ttesting <303:25
fritzone more question if i;m  getting so mutch attention ...^.^..does any1 use virtualbox?03:25
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eagles0513875what is it03:26
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LynoureJucato: in beta, bugs hunt you :)03:26
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eagles0513875when i beta tested vista not many issues03:26
fritza prog that creates a virtual machine on which you can run any os03:26
fritzand i run winxp in it03:26
Jucatowell it's still alpha anyway03:26
eagles0513875dude just use vmware server03:26
fritzwell it;'s kinda the same thing i thing....03:26
eagles0513875they have a linux version and its a free download and free to register for the serial number03:26
Jucatoeagles0513875: virtualbox is a (semi-) open source alternative to vmware03:26
fritzthe problem is...03:26
eagles0513875ahhhhh ok gotcha03:27
ubotuVirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox03:27
eagles0513875does that help u any fritz03:27
Jucato"with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features." <-- hence the "semi" :)03:27
fritzthe thing is...while running windows vista...it doesen't see any of my hardware...like sound mixers or video card03:27
fritzi think it's because it's running on the virtual machine created03:28
eagles0513875that is all goign to be emulated dude03:28
fritzso the question is does any1 know how i can make it see the hardware on the computer?03:28
eagles0513875and also if its like vmware ur going to have to set it up to use ur audio hardware03:28
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eagles0513875do u have nat03:28
Jucatovirtualized, not emulated :)03:29
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eagles0513875network address translation03:29
fritzdon;t think so...03:29
fritzbut is it possible to make win xp03:30
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dhomeis there a software that can run 2 OS at the same time?03:30
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications03:30
Jucatodhome: ayan03:30
Jucatoer... there ^^^03:30
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fritzrecognize the hardware?03:30
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dhomejucato: pinoy ka?03:31
Jucatodhome: yep. but English here please :P03:31
Jucatodhome: we have a local channel. #ubuntu-ph03:31
fritzso while i;m running windows xp03:31
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fritzit doesen't see03:32
fritzsound mixers03:32
fritzcan that be solved>03:32
ubuntu /nick Husscks03:32
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:33
eagles0513875lol whats wrong Schuenemann03:34
eagles0513875having trouble installing glx03:34
SchuenemannI have a brand new installation03:34
SchuenemannI need to setup this old geforce card03:34
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SchuenemannI remember installing glx-legacy03:34
fritzcan in i make it somehow that the windows guest os on virtualisation can see audiomixers...i really need that..03:35
eagles0513875i cant really help ya i have a new ati card in my laptop and that is such a b**** to get the fglrx to work on that but thank god i have a how to wiki to help me03:35
eagles0513875u should be able to i know u can do that on vmware server fritz03:35
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fritzaha...i thin i have something like vmware on automatix for install03:36
fritzbut it says something about registering03:36
eagles0513875name of the program03:36
fritzlet me see03:37
SchuenemannAs of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) the recommended way to install the binary drivers is to use System ? Administration ? Restricted Devices Manager03:37
Schuenemannwhere is this?03:37
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JucatoSchuenemann: that's only for Ubuntu03:37
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Jucatofor Kubuntu, you do it the old-fashioned way, through Adept or apt-get03:37
fritzeagles0513875 it's called vm server03:37
fritzeagles0513875 it's called vmware server03:38
eagles0513875its worth registering for it03:38
fritzis it free to register?03:38
eagles0513875i know its not open source but i know u can get the audio to work03:38
eagles0513875yes it is03:38
Arwenis it possible to set one repository to have a higher priority than the others?03:38
Arwene.g. Repo A and B have to same package, but I want it from A?03:38
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fritzand then do i install windows xp again on it?03:38
eagles0513875u would have to edit ur source list03:38
eagles0513875ya fritz03:39
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Arweneagles0513875, talking to me?03:39
eagles0513875arwen u would have to edit ur source list and put in the repositories u want03:39
eagles0513875yes i am Arwen03:39
eagles0513875!sourceomatic | arwen03:39
ubotuarwen: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:39
Arweneagles0513875, yes, but I would want both repositories enabled. Say, Repo 1 has packages A and B. But Repo 2 has packages B and C03:39
Arwenand I need all three, but I want package B from repo 103:39
Arwenand please don't gimme that source-o-matic crud03:40
fritzthnx guys03:40
JucatoArwen: yes I believe so. but it's a bit more complicated. try researching about APT03:40
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JucatoArwen: each package has certain um... levels... I think 500 is for repositories, 100 for .deb packages... in case they have the same level, the newer versions always get priority...03:41
Jucatonot exactly accurate... but that's how I understood them..03:41
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Schuenemannhow do I find out my kernel version?03:41
JucatoSchuenemann: uname -r03:41
ArwenSchuenemann, uname -r03:41
ArwenJucato, that would be apt pinning right? Only problem is that locks version numbers too.03:42
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alaQArwen: you can also pin by repo.03:43
BluesKajTried the gentoo live cd ...wouldn't startx due to my crappy ati card ... that's my message interpretation anyway03:44
eagles0513875what kind of car BluesKaj03:44
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Schuenemannuh oh, water on keyboard03:44
BluesKajXpress200G, eagles051387503:45
eagles0513875i have the 200m03:45
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eagles0513875radeon xpress 200m  alaq03:45
BluesKajyeah, very close ..radeon 400 series03:45
eagles0513875mine is in a laptop03:46
eagles0513875i cant even play wow with decent frame rates using wine03:46
alaQeagles0513875: yeah.  It's a PITA, mine's in a laptop too.03:46
alaQeagles0513875: nevermind.03:46
SchuenemannJucato, sorry, the tutorial instructions for nvidia only cover ubuntu. Should I do everything for edgy?03:46
BluesKajI would have paid more for an nvidia , had I known at the time that i'd be running Linux03:46
JucatoSchuenemann: yep. for Kubuntu, the same process applies for Edgy and Feisty03:47
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alaQeagles0513875: that stupid card put me through a lot of troubles.  Especially since ati stopped supporting that card until people complained and demanded support back.03:47
eagles0513875next time im buying a laptop it has to have nvidia and intel03:48
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eagles0513875it seems like though for my friend he had an intel chip video card was integrated and it was an intel one and his wireless card worked right out of the box on his machine03:48
Arwenwhy nvidia *and* intel?03:49
eagles0513875nvidia better support intel i dunno y03:49
SchuenemannJucato, huh... it tells me to run a program that I don't seem to have (nvidia-xconfig)03:49
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Schuenemannthat was supposed to be donwloaded accordingly to the instructions03:49
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JucatoSchuenemann: did you install the nvidia-glx (or nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx-new) package?03:50
Schuenemannyes, lgeacy03:50
eagles0513875Arwen: for my friend open gl worked right out of the box and his wireless card did too03:50
alaQI've moved to an all-intel-based laptop now.  The gfx card's a bit slow, but it's not anything to complain about in the least - beryl runs nicely.03:50
eagles0513875whats the video card alaQ03:50
alaQnow?  945GM.03:50
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eagles0513875Arwen: kinda funny i have an integrated 200m03:51
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SchuenemannJucato, if says: "if you're running edgy..."03:51
JucatoSchuenemann: and?03:51
alaQthe box I gave to my brother has my integrated 200m.03:51
eagles0513875my card is 128mb i even decided to share another 128mb of my ram03:51
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Schuenemannif you're running edgy, sudo nvidia-xconfig03:51
JucatoArwen: oh why?03:52
SchuenemannI don't have that03:52
ArwenJucato, to get a non-broken copy03:52
ksivajiJucato hi03:52
JucatoSchuenemann: you installed nvidia-glx-legacy?03:52
Jucatohi ksivaji03:52
JucatoArwen: how is it broken? :(03:52
eagles0513875and  after not having open gl for the longest time that is another reason y i woudl go nvidia03:52
ArwenJucato, no support for MPEG-4 Part 14 Atoms03:52
Arwenbetter known as MP4 tags03:52
alaQI don't use OGL apps that much, otherwise the graphics card would play a part in the decision.03:53
Jucatohave you asked in #amarok? is it something that's supposed to be there?03:53
eagles0513875y use a format that isnt main stream Arwen03:53
ArwenMPEG-4 *is* mainstream!03:53
Arwenwhat do you think Apple sells?03:53
eagles0513875its only an apple thing03:53
JucatoSchuenemann: if you installed nvidia-glx-legacy, trye the command "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" not really sure03:53
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eagles0513875that is what i meant by main stream not used by much of anythign or anyone else03:53
Jucatoeagles0513875: let him use what he has. the question is whether the app supports it in the first place03:53
Arwenuh... no, eagles0513875, it's been christened by both the ISO and the MPEG as *the* definitive format for audio and video03:54
SchuenemannJucato, ok, no output for that03:54
Arwenok, don't comment on things you don't know03:54
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JucatoSchuenemann: might have worked then. take note of which file it backed up the original xorg.conf to03:54
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eagles0513875i would honestly love to play wow on here and i need open gl now i just need to figure out wiht some minor tweaks how to improve the frame rates while playing03:54
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SchuenemannJucato, how?03:54
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eagles0513875or it would be nice if blizzard would have some1 port the game to linux lol03:55
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JucatoSchuenemann: oh it didn't say? hm...03:55
Schuenemannnope, nothing was outputted03:55
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alaQArwen: technically it's not broken, it's just not native to the build yet.  hence the manual build.03:55
Arweneagles0513875, actually, there *is* an unofficial linux client03:55
eagles0513875?? what u mean Arwen03:55
ArwenalaQ, no, it's broken. Some stupid high-horses issue with patents and all03:56
Arweneagles0513875, there was a linux client in the works, but Blizzard cancelled it. You can still find a leaked build around the net.03:56
SchuenemannJucato, xorg.conf still says "nv" instead of "nvidia"03:56
Arwenor you can use wine03:56
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eagles0513875whats it called u have any idea03:56
alaQArwen: it's just the tag editing, right?03:56
Arweneagles0513875, I have no idea either03:56
Jucatoweird.... sorry Schuenemann. I don't have any experience with the -legacy drivers03:56
ArwenalaQ, and tag *reading*03:56
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SchuenemannJucato, I think for the legacy ones that command does not work03:56
eagles0513875its ok dude03:56
Schuenemannwell, let me try to edit it manually03:57
fritzcan any1 tell me where te register 2 get my serial number...cause in automatix it just says "click here to get free serial number" but when i click >>here<< nothing happens03:57
fritzfor the vmware03:57
Arwenthere is no automatix in this channel. Automatix sucks.03:57
alaQArwen: did you pull down the dev libraries for mpeg4 for building it?03:58
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ArwenalaQ, yes03:58
Schuenemannhow can I create a copy of a file in the terminal for the same directory?03:58
Jucato!automatix | fritz03:58
ubotufritz: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe03:58
fritzno no03:58
alaQArwen: and libmp4v2-dev03:58
Arwenyeah, I implied that03:58
fritzit installed the software03:58
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Arwendoesn't matter, we don't support it03:58
Jucatofritz: vmware server?03:58
ArwenI think you're looking for vmware.com though03:58
fritzbut i don't know where to go to get the serial number03:58
Jucatofritz: you have to register in vmware.com03:58
alaQArwen: all right.  Should be good to go then.  I personally wouldn't classify it as broken, just not built in by default.03:59
Jucatothey will e-mail you your serial number03:59
ArwenalaQ, I classify features disabled for no good reason as "broken" :-\03:59
Arwensame with that nonsense about ffmpeg not supporting h26403:59
JucatoSchuenemann: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup03:59
fritzbtw, if i can get audio devices working in windows installed on vmware server, do you think i can get my graphics card running 2?04:00
fritzso i can play some games on winxp ;))04:00
Jucatofritz: don't get too many ideas...04:00
Jucatoyour hardware in a virtual machine is limited04:00
Arwenfritz, nope04:00
Arwennone of the free vmwares support 3d rendering04:00
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Jucatothe guest OS (the one running in the virtual machine) will not see your real hardware04:01
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Arwenand of the payware ones, it's still too slow for any real use04:01
fritzwell lool04:01
SchuenemannI'll brb (I hope)04:01
Jucatoit will see the hardware that VMWare shows it. which doesn't support 3D rendering04:01
fritzaha..but it can show audio mixers04:01
Jucatothink of it has having generic, VMWare manufactured hardware04:01
fritzsame what?04:02
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Jucatosame situation04:02
Jucatoit won't see you "real" sound card04:02
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fritzbut i will be able to somehow setup windows yahoo messenger04:02
JucatoArwen: if it's in a repository and you have deb-src for that repository enabled. yes04:02
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Schuenemanndammit, I'm back to 800x60004:03
Jucatofritz: if you setup vmware networking properly? yes04:03
fritzcause i need to make calls on yahoo04:03
ArwenJucato, unless of course there's no source available for it04:03
JucatoArwen: everything in Ubuntu's repos do04:03
Jucatomain, restricted, universe, multiverse04:03
fritzdoes that mean a lot of command in konsole? :-/04:03
ArwenJucato, ok04:04
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Arwenhmm, building amarok takes longer than I expected...04:04
Dusk_what was the package name on kubuntu for playing mp3 files on amarok???04:04
Jucatoor libxine-extracodecs (pre-feisty)04:05
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Dusk_thanks Arwen04:05
=== Arwen should really write some kinda script to make managing the local repository easier...
Dusk_what i was looking for was that04:06
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Schuenemannomfg... I run kdesu kate xorg.conf and the password box does not appear04:08
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SchuenemannJucato, give me any ideas, I can't get stuck with this 800x600 :p04:09
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BluesKajSchuenemann, kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:09
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Jucato!xconfig | Schuenemann04:10
ubotuSchuenemann: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes04:10
SchuenemannBluesKaj, nothing...04:10
ubuntujoin sex04:10
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BluesKajin the runbox not the terminal, Schuenemann ..alt+f204:10
ubuntu#join sex04:10
Arwenuh... FAIL04:11
Arwenlearn IRC, that's /join #sex04:11
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ninHerhi all04:12
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mediagreetings from the dark side04:13
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BluesKajwe don't no darkside in here ...we need light and enlightenment :)04:13
TeraDynemedia: You mean you're running a Mac?04:13
BluesKajvista , i bet04:14
medialol....no making another attempt at getting linuxMCE running on my tv04:14
SchuenemannJucato, I think that messed everything up... I see "generic" for everything (keyboard, mouse, video card)04:14
TeraDynemedia: O_O; Good luck with that...04:14
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medialuck has everything to do with it....have made probably 50 attempts to get some form of mythtv to work....noghting but frustration04:15
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kristjan_is anyone aware of nvidia latest drivers repository for feisty fawn?04:16
TeraDyneArwen: it's not pirated. They have a podcast04:17
mediaaware how kristjan?04:17
Arwenkristjan_, ...not that I know of, go get it yourself from nvidia.com04:17
Arwenor stick with the tested versions04:17
TeraDynewith the eps. I hate laptop keyboards. Too small...04:17
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mediahey yurimxpxman....how goes it04:18
yurimxpxmanmedia: alright04:18
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TeraDyneSpeaking of mp3 files, is there an app that lets you change ID3 tags from the terminal?04:19
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mediaI do tech support for Verizon...hope your not one of the customers who have asked for a supervisor in the past....lol04:19
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TeraDynemedia: So you're one of the people standing behind the Verizon guy in the commercials?04:20
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ubotuAmarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok04:21
mediatur: I guess, but I am one of the more frustrated staffers by the overall process of getting cust support04:21
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP304:22
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iljahello people! i have stupid question:where i must put .PO files? :)04:24
mediaoooo....starting to get excited....linuxmce v1.1 seems to be working...I may be able to get away from microhell04:24
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ksivajimy system hangs when i try to open .swf file why ?04:27
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BluesKajmedia, MS uses copy protection thru-out it's media center system ... makes it very clunky to use ...even refused to show some jpegs from my pictures on a friend's system04:28
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TFroganyone have any experience calibrating a Saitek joystick in kubuntu?04:29
dhomeeagles: where can i download mp3 player?04:29
Arwendhome, us.archive.ubuntu.com ...04:30
Arwen!restrictedformats | dhome04:30
ubotudhome: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:30
BluesKajso he is investigating Linux Media Center Edition...but I wish him luck ...it's a daunting task for a windows user04:30
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about md5sums - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:44
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fritzi went on vmware to registrate04:45
fritzand got to a page where they tell me i have to pay 400$04:45
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Arwenyou picked the wrong page? lol04:45
ubotuTo verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more04:45
fritzwhat;s the wright one?04:45
Arwenthe vmware server page, not enterprise, not workstation04:46
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klapI have A dude04:46
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klapARe a spanish channel of ubuntu ?04:46
BluesKaj!es | klap04:46
ubotuklap: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:46
fritzcan you give the link04:47
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klapoo ty04:47
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Schuenemanncan anybody give me a hand setting up a nvidia legacy driver?04:49
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klapi try to help u04:49
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SchuenemannArwen, =/04:50
Schuenemannklap, not in spanish, eh?04:50
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klapJAJA no i know04:51
klapi try to help u in enlgish04:51
Schuenemann!nvidia | klap04:52
ubotuklap: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:52
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SchuenemannI mean this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia04:52
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klapok .. wen i install kbuntu.. the driver for ati WOrks very good y play eVE and WOw04:52
SchuenemannI do everything written there, but I get a black screen when I restart X04:52
klapBlack screen ?04:53
Schuenemannnvidia, not ati04:53
klapmm let me see04:53
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Schuenemannwhy the hell X thinks I like this black screen?04:56
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dhomehelp please... eagles still there?04:57
klapmm i am reading04:58
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klapwhat is ure model of ATI ?04:58
dhomemy amarok is now playing but i cant hear any sound... :(04:58
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Schuenemanngeforce 25604:59
dhomeanyone please help...04:59
klaphelp with ?04:59
Schuenemanngeforce 256 32 MB (it's that legacy driver I already installed)05:00
dhomemy sound device.. i cant hear anything05:00
dhomebut amarok is playing...05:00
Dusk_dhome: did you play with kmix?05:00
Dusk_you just installed the mp3 playing codecs?05:00
Dusk_or made an update??05:00
Dusk_ok reboot and it will make sound05:00
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dhomei already reboot twice...05:01
klapMMm ure X Works allways Good.. only put black wen ure upgrade the driveR?05:01
Dusk_dhome: with which kernel??05:01
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dhomei forgot.. the one in the 1st row..05:02
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dhomeill try to reboot again...05:02
Dusk_hmmm did you look at the amarok's preferences?? you can choose from engine 'alsa' as sound driver05:02
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dhomeno sound still.. :(05:05
Schuenemannklap, sorry05:05
Schuenemannwhen I make that change to xorg.conf05:05
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dhomehelp please...05:06
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klapthe monitor no have Sync?  ..05:06
Dusk_dhome: do you have sound on kaffeine or else?05:06
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klapWen u work a mm hi REsolution.. some monitors lost signal or sync05:06
dhomeill check kaffeine05:06
klapu use 800 X 600 for standart resolution05:07
Schuenemannthat black screen has a cursor blinking05:07
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klapbut i duno whats is the problem Exaclty05:07
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dhomekaffeine has no sound but it plays05:07
klapyes.. maybe are u working at 1024 or hi res.. and wen u upgrde driver05:08
Dusk_dhome: then i think your problem is with sound drivers05:08
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dhomemaybe... but what should i do to fix it?05:09
Dusk_reinstall alsa if you want05:09
Dusk_alsa drivers05:09
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dhomeill try to install all alsa..05:11
Dusk_dhome: did you configure amarok??05:12
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Dusk_amarok>configure amarok>engine>05:12
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dhomeoutput plugin = autodetect05:13
dhomespeaker arrangement = stereo 2.005:13
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dhomesound engine=xine engine05:14
dhomesound system=xine engine05:14
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shookiehow do i make my firewall, located in /etc/firehol/firehol.sh, boot automatically. (Wasn't an package install)05:14
karthikp_Add it to your autostart05:15
karthikp_Which, I think is located in ~/.kde/Autostart/05:15
karthikp_You just need to link it up symbolically (ln -s)05:16
karthikp_Place the link there and you're done!05:16
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shookiehas to start at init level05:16
shookiebut im unsore05:17
shookiecan i link it to /etc/rc2.d05:17
dhomeno sound.............................05:17
karthikp_Placing a link to it in the autostart will start it when you log in, I think.05:17
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shookieit needs to be in rc1.d rc2.d rc3.d rc4.d and rc5.d05:18
shookiei need it to start at boot05:18
karthikp_Hmm, above my level, I'm afraid! :)05:18
dhomeHELP PLEASE.. no sound05:18
karthikp_@dhome: Did you try alsamixer?05:18
shookieok... thanks for the assist.05:19
karthikp_Fire up a terminal and type in alsamixer05:19
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karthikp_This will bring up a bunch of sliders that allow you to adjust volume.05:19
karthikp_Sometimes (happened to me in my first install) something's muted and you don't get sound.05:20
dhomekarthikp: they are all in max volume05:20
karthikp_How about System Settings > Sound System?05:21
dhomeenable the sound system is checked05:21
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karthikp_Set the audio device to autodetect05:21
dhomeits already on autodetect05:21
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karthikp_Test sound doesn't do much, eh?05:22
shookiewhat is in side the files located in rc2-5.d05:22
shookieis it a simple script?05:22
mneisenHi, I have a "little" :-) problem with a kernel upgrade (nothing self-compiled!). The kernel upgrade was interrupted by a network problem. After reconnection, I get the error message "unable to create `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic': No space left on device" when I type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. I habe two partitions: /boot (100M free) and / (150G free). Hay anybody any idea?! Thanks in advance!05:22
dhomeno sound still05:23
Dusk_i can't get 3d acceleration support05:23
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shookiecan i put something like S19firehol in rc2.d and the contents be #!/bin/sh ... /path/to/script05:23
julienGood afternoon05:23
othernicki'm using amarok on kubuntu dapper, and I cant find libxine-extracodecs on my repositories, any clue?05:23
bumzowhat are thw new features05:23
othernickI just want to install it but it seems its not there05:24
julienothermick: did you delete the '#' in your sources.list ?05:24
julienin front of the 'universe' lines05:24
julienapt-get update ?05:24
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othernicki idnt delete it... i just enabled it05:24
othernickapt get cant find it also05:25
julienyes, I don't know how to tell it in english ;)05:25
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karthikp_@ julien: Perhaps someone can translate here05:25
juliendpkg -l '*libxine*' ?05:25
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othernicki'm using pt.archive.05:26
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othernickjulien, i dont seem to have it downloaded, but i will try that05:26
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karthikp_@othernick: Just see if there's a line like this in your /etc/apt/sources.list:05:26
karthikp_deb <some address> feisty universe05:27
juliendon't forget to go into dselect and update your packages list05:27
karthikp_Or replace feisty by your version.05:27
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othernickno, I'm using dapper05:27
karthikp_Okay, dapper, then.05:27
karthikp_deb <> dapper universe05:27
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karthikp_Or perhaps, deb <> dapper main restricted universe multiverse05:28
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zoohouseHello everyone05:28
mneisenHi, I have a "little" :-) problem with a kernel upgrade (nothing self-compiled!). The kernel upgrade was interrupted by a network problem. After reconnection, I get the error message "unable to create `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic': No space left on device" when I type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. I habe two partitions: /boot (100M free) and / (150G free). Hay anybody any idea?! Thanks in advance!05:28
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othernickmy list is updated05:29
julienPlease, please, please, can you tell me why everytime, since I've Feisty installed, always crash with the "signal 11" message ?05:29
julienall my applications close05:29
zoohouseI have to print out street maps for a few zipcode in FL. I have a question. Is there any project out there for Linux that it is for street maps? Microsoft has a product called Street Planner, is there a open source map project out there? Thanks05:29
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julienbefore, it was my computer that always froze05:30
karthikp_Okay, now just do sudo apt-get update05:30
karthikp_And then sudo apt-get upgrade05:30
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julienDoes mappy works for FL ?05:30
julienmappy.com ?05:30
Minatakuzoohouse: Just use Google Maps05:30
karthikp_Note that all this could have been done graphically, but command-line nostalgia takes us back to the CLI everytime...05:31
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Minatakukarthikp_: Nah, it's the fact that the CLI is a better, more efficient way of doing things05:31
julienPlease, nobody can tell me why all my applications crash after 5 minutes with the "Signal 11" error message ?05:31
zoohouseMinataku: I suppose I can use google maps but I was hoping there might be something like Street Planner where I can incert landmarks and what not all in the same app05:31
karthikp_Depends. If you can do the same thing without scaring newbies, it makes the graphical way a nice way, too.05:32
Minatakujulien: Why, no. What it means... Ack.05:32
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Minatakujulien: If everything is getting SIGSEGV it means something is wrong05:32
Minatakujulien: Test your RAM05:32
MinatakuIt may be bad05:32
julienYes, it's the SIGSEGV05:32
julienMy ram ?05:32
karthikp_memtest option05:32
julienI have a 1024 sdram + a 25605:33
julienIt works with wind*wz05:33
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MinatakuWindows probably ignores them05:33
othernickcan you check for me that libxine-extracodecs is on pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu ?05:33
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julienhaaaa okaaay05:33
MinatakuIn an ironic twist, Windows' poor coding helps it work sometimes with bad RAM05:33
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MinatakuIf the RAM tests okay, reinstall05:34
MinatakuLinux, that is05:34
MinatakuSomething may have gone wrong05:34
othernickor give me a substitute line for daper repositories pleas05:34
karthikp_Use the us repos.05:34
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karthikp_Just replace pt by us05:34
julienI see "libxine-extracodecs     1.1.4-2ubuntu3" with dpkg -l but I don't know in which archive it is05:34
othernickwhat will I have to change and where?05:34
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karthikp_sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list05:35
julienSo, I try to remove the 256 Mo ram, just leave the 1024 and try my computer ?05:35
karthikp_Press 'i' to go into insert mode.05:35
Minatakukarthikp_: nano05:35
MinatakuDon't use vim05:35
othernickcant I change it on adept?05:35
karthikp_Aww, c'mon!05:35
MinatakuThat's the kind of thing that scares people away05:36
karthikp_Fire up adept.05:36
othernicki have it open05:36
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karthikp_Go to Manage repositories or something like that.05:36
othernickalready there05:36
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julienOk I disconnect just to remove my 256 memory and come back05:36
MinatakuHeck, I'm an experienced Linux user, running Gentoo no less, and I can't stand vim05:36
MinatakuOr vi, or any clone of said05:36
othernickcant see anything to change repositories country05:36
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karthikp_Okay. go to the third parties tab, I suppose and click add.05:37
othernickcant I use something like an application, I remmember I had something like some kid of apt-setup on console05:37
karthikp_What d'you know! the example gives it right.05:38
karthikp_Just replace the 'main' with 'universe multiverse'05:38
karthikp_And you should be done.05:38
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karthikp_Wait a sec.05:39
karthikp_On the Kubuntu software tab, there's a pull down menu for choosing the country.05:39
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karthikp_Choose other.05:39
karthikp_Pick the US one.05:39
karthikp_Should be done.05:39
othernicki cant see that05:39
othernickusing dapper here05:40
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karthikp_sudo vim (or nano) /etc/apt/sources.list05:40
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karthikp_Add another line for universe multiverse.05:41
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julienWell, I just leave on memory of 1 Go05:41
karthikp_Like Minataku said, CLI *is* more powerful... :)05:41
julienLet's see if it crashes again05:41
karthikp_Though I still like vim05:41
mneisenHi, I have a "little" :-) problem with a kernel upgrade (nothing self-compiled!). The kernel upgrade was interrupted by a network problem. After reconnection, I get the error message "unable to create `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic': No space left on device" when I type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. I habe two partitions: /boot (100M free) and / (150G free). Hay anybody any idea?! Thanks in advance!05:41
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karthikp_Someone should help mneisen...05:42
othernickthe new line is after all that is there?05:42
karthikp_Doesn't matter. Add it at the end. No biggie.05:42
Dusk_i need to open 3d support..please can anyone help me?05:43
Dusk_i installed the drivers but i can't get 3d acc support05:43
karthikp_They always come in pairs. One for the deb and the other for the source code (?)...05:43
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Acolytehi all05:44
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mneisenkarthikp_: Thanks for noticing me ... :-)05:45
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karthikp_Okay, peace out, people!05:47
tucciI downloaded a program that's not in any repository, but I can't figure out how to open it. I've got the bin file but nothing happens when i click on it05:48
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Dusk_i installed the drivers but i can't get 3d acc support05:50
Dusk_i need to open 3d support..please can anyone help me?05:50
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martikKUBUNTU ROCKS05:52
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coreymon77martik: indeed it does05:53
bsivahi any one form sinagpoe05:53
martikI should write a song about Kubuntu05:53
martikLike a rock n roll05:54
martikbased on 12 bar blues05:54
Dusk_martik: if you help me i will play drums in your song05:54
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Dusk_martik: but i can't get 3d acc support :(05:54
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MaTiAzmartik: Make the song opensource :)05:55
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martik*picks up electric fiddle*05:56
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martik*r'n'r riff*05:56
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cs5can someone help me please I am installing ATI drivers for an All-in-wonder but I dont know how to logon as superuser06:05
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mneisenHi, I have a "little" :-) problem with a kernel upgrade (nothing self-compiled!). The kernel upgrade was interrupted by a network problem. After reconnection, I get the error message "unable to create `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic': No space left on device" when I type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". I have two partitions: /boot (100M free) and / (150G free). Has anybody any idea?! Thanks in advance!06:06
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TeraDyne!sudo | cs506:06
ubotucs5: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:06
cs5so instead of sh use sudo?06:06
cs5ty for the link06:06
TeraDynecs5: no problem06:07
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allspiritseveIs there any way to restore a broken kubuntu install without losing all programs installed?06:08
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mat1980allspiritseve: I guess it dipends on how much it's broken. What happend?06:10
Dusk_isn't there anyone who is with radeon card and have direct rendering:on???06:10
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Dusk_when i write fglrxinfo i get a06:10
Dusk_Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".06:10
Dusk_Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".06:10
Dusk_Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!06:10
TeraDyne!pastebin | Dusk_06:11
allspiritseveI'm not quite sure, something with fsck, but I can't start up anymore. I can get past Grub, but I get errors soon after06:11
ubotuDusk_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:11
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Dusk_sorry :(06:11
mat1980Dusk_: if I remember right, you should disable glx with driver fglrx06:11
TeraDynemat1980: I was just about to mention that. LOL06:11
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andy__hi when the new version of kubuntu is released i,e ribe 1 eill fiesty automatically upgrade?06:12
juliusDoes the KDE msn client use webcam?06:12
Dusk_but how??06:12
mat1980TeraDyne: :)06:12
Dusk_i really tried hard to open 3d acc support06:12
andy__hi Dusk_di what i told you sort your monitor out?06:12
TeraDynejulius: which client?06:12
mat1980Dusk_: have you tried to look at ubotu?06:12
mat1980!ati ! Dusk_06:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ati ! dusk_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:13
mat1980!ati | Dusk_06:13
ubotuDusk_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:13
Dusk_heh :)06:13
Dusk_mat1980: no way..06:13
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Dusk_mat1980: none happened06:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:13
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allspiritsevemat1980: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27138/ these are the errors I get06:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 42 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:14
andy__!being analy gang raped06:14
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...06:14
TeraDyne!botabuse | andy__06:14
ubotuandy__: please see above06:14
mat1980allspiritseve: on doing what? sorry, I don't remember a conversation with you..06:14
juliusTeraDyne:  i think it was called kopete or something, the stock standard msn client  for kde06:15
Dusk_how can i disable glx drivers with fglrx drivers?06:15
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runleveltenDid someone ask how to keep package selection across installs?06:15
allspiritseveif you look back a couple lines ago, it was about 5 minutes06:15
TeraDynejulius: there is a video device settings section in the settings, but I'm not sure if the MSN plugin uses it. Let me check.06:15
mat1980Dusk_: edit /etc/X11/xorg.con and comment the line with "glx".06:16
runleveltenheh, it was before the phone rang :)06:16
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Dusk_mat1980: if i paste my xorg.conf can you help me?06:16
juliusTeraDyne: Ty06:16
runleveltensave your packages if you have third party ones, obviously, and do:06:16
mat1980Dusk_: I'll try.06:17
runleveltendpkg --get-selections > installedlist.text06:17
runleveltensave the file, then on the new system, do dpkg --set-selections < installedlist.text06:17
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runleveltenhi btw, first visit to this channel ever :)06:18
mat1980allspiritseve: ok, now I've found your previous post. Uhm... no idea. Sorry.06:18
TeraDynejulius: Yes, Kopete dies support webcams for MSN06:18
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TeraDynedoes* Whoos.06:18
TeraDyneI hate laptop keyboards06:18
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allspiritsevemat1980: well, I'm just wondering if it's possible to repair my installation, maybe transfer files onto the hard drive or something?06:19
Dusk_mat1980: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27139/06:19
runleveltenallspiritseve: do the above, and back up your home directory. All being well, it should work just fine.06:19
allspiritsevethe backing up of my apps? How do I do that if I can't get to a command line?06:20
juliusTeraDyne: ty06:20
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runleveltenwell, assuming it's not a running machine you can shell into, you could try booting the machine into knoppix or something then chroot into the installation06:22
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allspiritseverunlevelten: I have a 6.10 live cd I can boot on, how would I chroot into the installation?06:23
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allspiritseverunlevelten: i can mount it just fine, and access the files.06:23
klapHow is the spanish channel ?06:23
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mat1980Dusk_: uhm... you already have no glx entry...06:23
Tm_T!es | klap06:24
ubotuklap: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:24
klapno no are esubuntu :S06:24
Dusk_mat1980: do i miss a lib you think??06:24
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mat1980Dusk_: no, I don't think so.06:26
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mat1980Dusk_: have you restarted x-server?06:26
Dusk_mat1980: several times06:26
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mat1980Dusk_: don't know.... what is the output of command       lsmod | grep glx06:28
cs5Hi, me again, I successfully installed my drivers, ty for the sudo help.I have minor corruption in my cursor on monitor 2, is this due to monitor issues or possibly ati proprietary drivers? any h06:28
allspiritseveobutu: como usas las letras con acentos con su 'keyboard'?06:28
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cs5also maxed windows on monitor 1 are partial, they dont extend to even 1/2 way across mon 106:29
Dusk_mat1980: no output :/06:29
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mat1980Dusk_: ok, it's right. Or I guess it should be. Uhm... no idea.06:30
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Dusk_mat1980: ok..thanks for your helps06:31
cs5nm, going to restart with lower display settings and see what happens ill be back06:31
Dusk_mat1980: i will restart again..maybe this time..06:31
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juliusHow do i edit the startup applications in kde?06:32
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Timsenhi, I am looking for a service which monitors a specific directory (for example /etc) for changes and if a file will be modified I want to be notified, by e-mail sommedbody any suggestion I should have a look on?06:33
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kharlosshi there. i bought a mainboard and a case . i read how to insert wires for system panel ( restart button, power button, hdd led, etc ) my question is : how do I know polarity of those wires  ?06:34
coreymon77Timsen: im not really sure, but jsut curious, what is this for?06:34
mat1980Dusk_: probably I was wrong... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31018106:34
juliuscolour is +06:34
juliuswhite is neg06:34
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juliusdoesnt matter for switches06:34
juliusand for speaker red is + black is neg :P06:34
tucciI need to install libmozjs, but Adept says it can't download the package or the commit would break packages. Anyone have any idea?06:35
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cs5well still corruption, can anyone help with ati and display drivers06:36
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Timsencoreymon77: we administrate a single server with 3 guys, I just want to be informed if the others change service critical settings06:36
BluesKajcs5 , which ati card?06:36
pupeno_I am having trouble geting an IP from a DHCP server... most of the times it doesn't work, some times it works. I've tried disabling avahi, but eth0:avahi is still created. Does anybody know about this?06:36
Timsenpupeno_: over cable or wlan network?06:37
llutzTimsen: dnotify06:37
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cs5ati all-in-wonder 960006:37
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cs5i got this error in the instal log...yes tv card06:38
pupeno_Timsen: what do you mean by over cable?06:38
cs5[Message]  Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.06:38
cs5[Message]  Kernel Module : Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.06:38
cs5[Error]  Kernel Module : No kernel module build environment - please consult readme.06:38
Timsenllutz: thanks, that sounds I am looking for06:38
BluesKaj!pastebin | cs506:38
ubotucs5: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:38
pupeno_Timsen: I've tried with two different wlan devices and on a lan.06:38
cs5ok, ty06:38
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tucciI need to install libmozjs, but Adept says it can't download the package or the commit would break packages. Anyone have any idea?06:40
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BluesKajok cs5 , first of all in the terminal type : sudo aptitude install build-essential06:40
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Timsenpupeno_: did you check the entires of /etc/network/interfaces and that they match your needs?06:41
Dusk_BluesKaj: do you have ati radeon cartd?06:41
pupeno_Timsen: yes.06:41
cs5is installing 40+ packages06:41
BluesKajyeah Dusk_  an onboard ati xpress200G.. but i also have a tvwonder pro tvcard as well06:42
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Timsenpupeno_: are there other network components in the lan which serves a IP by the dhcp server?06:43
Dusk_BluesKaj: i couldn't get 3d support..if you had radeon9600 i would like your help06:43
pupeno_Timsen: with the two wlan devices, the network was only the wlan device and my computer (not even a switch or hub... just a cross-cable), and now I don't know what else is on the network... it is a huge corporate network.06:44
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cs5cs5 will be right bback he had to take his son to school06:46
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tucciIn Adept Manager, j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin is listed as broken. Would it be good for me to remove it and reinstall?06:47
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BluesKajDusk the ati radeon 9600 uses the same linux drivers as my card does ... check this site for a tutorial that works  : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty06:48
BluesKajBBL ... gotta cut the grass :(06:49
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kharlosshi there. i bought a mainboard and a case . i read how to insert wires for system panel ( restart button, power button, hdd led, etc ) my question is : how do I know polarity of those wires  ?06:51
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Dusk_thanks BluesKaj06:52
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cs5blueskaj, is at prompt again after setting up06:53
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cs5alot of predeselected packages were installed, ty. Should i restart xserver? or the whole system?06:54
geniikharloss: Almost always the wire which is not black is the + wire06:55
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BluesKajcs5 , the prob is not with your tv tuner card cuz it doesn't do the video , it merely tunes in a signal decodes it to digital and dumps it off to the graphics card for further processing06:56
Timsenpupeno_: occours any error if you restart the network manually by sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart?06:56
BluesKajcs5, so what is your graphics card ?06:57
cs5yeah ati said i probably wouldnt have use of the Media center aspects of the card I just want the dual monitor to work proper ATI all-in-wonder 960006:57
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cs5got the linux drivers from them but corrupted graphics06:57
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cs5i have corrupted cursor on monitor 2 and maxed windows on monitor 1 are partial windows06:58
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BluesKajcs5, so this card is a tuner/graphics  then ?06:59
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cs5yes tv in and out, dual monitor cable, etc.06:59
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BluesKajI'm trying to figure out what drivers need to be fixed06:59
Dusk_is there a program on kubuntu to limit the downloading or uploading speed?07:00
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cs5should i pastebin the results of the previous commands you asked me to run?07:01
geniiWell time to return to work07:01
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TimsenDusk_: wondershaper is eventually interessting for you07:07
Dusk_Timsen: what's it??07:08
Timsenand to have a look on the currently used bandwith on the system jnettop is a very nice tool07:08
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Dusk_Timsen: thanks07:10
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BluesKajcs5, do a , :  lspci | grep video07:10
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cs5lol, sry you lost me07:11
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cs5im googleing...lol07:12
bthoemAny client in/ for Ubuntu supporting direct connection to WinXP remote desktop?07:14
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inaHello everybody! I have a question abaout a programm called Wxmusik07:16
inaI made a .deb which is installed no warnings07:16
inabut I can't see anything in a nebu07:16
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Timseneventually you can start it from the console by wxmusik ?07:17
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BluesKajcs5, in the terminal type,  lspci | grep video07:18
lyamwhat is the default runlevel path?07:18
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BluesKajor copy & paste , cs507:19
cs5i have and i get nothing, just next prompt07:19
lyamwhat is the default runlevel directory?07:19
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BluesKajcs5 you don't get any output all ?07:20
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cs5lspci | grep video07:21
cs5cs5@COT-CS5:~$ lspci | grep video07:21
BluesKajok  ' lspci '  without the quotes07:21
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cs5that gave me lots07:22
BluesKajok copy and paste in pastebin pls07:22
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BluesKajok cs5 , you need to check system settings/monitor&display/hardware ...what's listed beside the graphics card driver and also Monitors/s07:28
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cs5ati radeon (fglrx)07:29
zombielionim having a problem im new to kubuntu but i have found things i want to download in the adept manager but everything says break install what can i do07:29
cs5and plug n play on both monitors07:29
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cs5there is a vesa driver I assume for the tv out under it unused beside monitor07:30
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wespeople i'm trying to install limewire-basic but I when install it show up "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6" What should I do?07:31
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zombielioni would use frostwire07:32
cs5zombielion is that the eqivalent of limewire?07:32
zombielioni know it is the same thing just about but you get the pro version of limewire in frostwire for free07:32
westhem how can i install it? *frostwire*07:32
wesfor apt same?07:33
zombielionyou know the pro version they have for 20 or whatever you get that free with frostwire and you can download torrents in it now07:33
zombielionjust go to frostwire.com and it will give you info on how to install07:34
wesah thanks..07:34
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zombielionyou need java i think all you do is download a deb file and install it but for a long time i couldnt get it to work till i figured out i didnt have java so you will need that07:34
wessame I updating my libs continues giving this error =/07:34
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wesi was seeing on the frost's... site will be that someone pays contributions to them?07:37
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Lunar_LampIs there a good application for drawing flow charts etc?07:37
zombielionya "someone" not me07:37
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joe4288hi im have a few little anoying problems07:37
zombielionjust click no thanx07:37
wesxD neither do I07:37
joe4288first is every time i open azurues it just closes agian07:37
joe4288it wond stay open07:37
wesyeah i do it07:37
cs5BluesKaj is it looking bleak for me?07:38
BluesKajcs5, lets check your fglrx driver07:38
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zombielionisnt that for torrent07:38
Lunar_Lampjoe4288, do you get an error message? What id you open if from the command line by typing "azureus"?07:38
wesazureus is a great torrent program07:38
joe4288nah the k menu07:38
zombielioni use utorrent it is small and prowerful but i dont like that i have to use wine to use it07:38
joe4288but ill try the command07:38
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joe4288and i get no error07:38
BluesKajcs5,type fgl_glxgears07:38
Lunar_Lampjoe4288, try opening it from the command line so we can see if you get an error message there :-)07:38
joe4288it starts up then just dissapears07:38
HrontoreIs last.fm a supported program?07:39
Lunar_LampThere will be info printed to the terminal you open it in - whichy you will probably see errors in - try pasting them onto the www.pastebin.ca site.07:39
joe4288ok i got an error i think07:39
wesi've ever used it on the windows =o (azureus)07:39
joe4288ill paste bin it07:39
cs5should i just edit the pevious pastebin or start a new one?07:39
joe4288ok heres what came up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27146/07:40
Lunar_Lampjoe4288, well, that's not good.  How did you instlal it?07:41
joe4288i installed azureus with the kubuntu installer07:41
joe4288same with java07:41
joe4288im thinking its a java issue07:41
weswow frostwire alread is installed but it didnt open =O07:41
joe4288because when im using ebay in firefox (havnt tried knoqurure)07:42
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zombielionno java07:42
zombielionyou need java07:42
joe4288it will log me off after a little07:42
Lunar_LampI'm afraid I don't know, but I've never used azureus for more than a few mins (as I find it slow, and prefer the command line speed of rtorrent)07:42
joe4288i have java07:42
zombielioni had that problem for like 2 months till i was like duh07:42
wesya i kno, but i already installed it yesterday :S ya i'll try again..07:42
Lunar_Lampjoe4288, you might have the wrong java :-/07:42
joe4288i have java 607:42
wesyeah can be =/07:42
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BluesKajcs5 , ok i think if you do the same tutorial as i did , you will get 3D and Direct rendering on your displays , but first I would do a search for the linux drivers for your monitors in order to make things work as well as possible07:43
joe4288well in debian i had to make my java07:43
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joe4288are there still the packages here for me to do it agian07:43
joe4288then for sure ill have the correct java07:43
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cs5ok, ty BluesKaj07:43
BluesKajwell, not me but you do the search cs5 :)07:43
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cs5the ones i got from ati are latest. Should I check out standard drivers instead?07:44
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weson java's site the JDK 6u1 is the correct right?07:44
joe4288well i didnt get my java from the website07:44
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cs5cant read today, i will look for monitor drivers first then do tutorial, ty07:44
joe4288i got it from the adepted installer07:44
zombielionummm i have no idea where i got the link at i just know tha tis what i needed and i got let me look real fast07:44
Dusk_i use kernel ati drivers but my direct rendering is no! how can i open it??07:45
cs5thanks for your time today BluesKaj, judo's from cs5 ;)07:45
lordi_hy all, got a strange problem: when i tell the system to restart the screen turns black, nothing happens. If i first log out and then restart, evrything is fine. All I installed is apache2, no graphic drivers or something07:45
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joe4288yea im just going to uninstall java and use java-package to install it by hand07:47
Dusk_lordi_: what about when you are root on konsole and make "reboot" ??07:47
wesi found for synaptic some packages07:47
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joe4288i think this might fix my problem07:47
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ronzoanyone know of a good audio converter that can convert from m4a to mp3, and other formats? =)07:48
BluesKajcs5, this tutorial will help you get your video up and running once you install the monitor drivers  http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty07:48
zombielioni think it is java se07:48
lordi_Dusk_: on console its always no problem07:49
lordi_Dusk_: only in Gui07:49
Dusk_lordi_: i have the same prob also07:49
lordi_Dusk_: maybe its my gf 8800?07:49
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Dusk_lordi_: you have direct rendering on?07:49
lordi_Dusk_: my old sys has not such problems07:50
lordi_Dusk_: how can i see that?07:50
lordi_Dusk_: btw, i got the same problem in debain07:50
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Dusk_lordi_: glxinfo | glep -i "rendering"07:51
zombielionare there any programs for editing for movies07:51
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ronzozombielion, kino07:51
jussi01ok, im having a problem with sound on flash... ie. it doesnt work anymore.... anyone tell me how to fix it?07:51
jussi01!info kino | zombielion07:51
ubotuzombielion: kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.92-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1126 kB, installed size 3912 kB07:51
lordi_Dusk_: bash: glep: command not found07:52
jussi01lordi_: i think he meant grep07:52
jonathan_alguien habla espool07:52
zombielionthanx will the clean up the video and audio or is this just pretty simple07:52
jussi01!es | jonathan_07:53
ubotujonathan_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:53
lordi_Dusk_: its deactivated07:53
cs5ty again07:53
Dusk_lordi_: you must activate it by installing drivers07:54
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lordi_Dusk_: the problem is, there are no driver on the nvidia page for gf 807:54
zombielioni would like to know why just about everything i want to download off the adept manager says break install07:55
lordi_Dusk_: for my gf 7 there was one07:55
Dusk_there's no in here too??07:55
Dusk_!nvidia | lordi_07:55
ubotulordi_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:55
lordi_yeah i know but no 8800 in the binaries07:56
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Dusk_hmmm i dunno then..i use radeon garph card07:57
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Bllzhow do i uninstall a package from the command line?07:57
ronzosudo apt-get remove <package>07:57
lordi_Dusk_: ok thx anyway07:57
Dusk_Bllz: sudo apt-get remove package.name07:57
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Bllzronzo, when you say package is it the application name or the file name of the .deb package?07:58
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SunStealthHey, has anybody tryed to install acetoneiso2 deb package? I have installed it, finally, but it wont start, just loads then closes down again.07:58
ronzoBllz, name of the package. ie, to uninstall amarok, it wouldn't be apt-get remove amarok-mumbojumbo.deb, it would be apt-get remove amarok07:58
Bllzronzo, got it. thanks!07:59
ronzonp. =)07:59
SunStealthand acetoneiso2 does not seems to support console mode :(07:59
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ronzoanyone know of a good audio converter?08:01
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coreymon77ronzo: apt-cache search is your best friend08:02
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Dusk_ronzo: i know =)08:02
BluesKajronzo, soundKonverter08:02
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ronzo<3 u all08:02
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AutoMatriXhi folks :)08:03
jussi01so no one has an idea about my flash sound?08:03
jussi01!hi | AutoMatriX08:03
ubotuAutoMatriX: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!08:03
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allspiritseveIs there any way to install kubuntu through the internet using the boot options on a live cd? (I can't boot into the live cd, issues w/ my laptop)08:03
ronzosudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:04
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues08:04
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AutoMatriXjussi01: nice08:04
BluesKajjussi01, do you have sound on other sites08:04
jhutchinsallspiritseve: There's an alternative cd that will let you handle hardware issues.08:05
zombieliondoes anyone use mplayer08:05
jhutchinszombielion: Yeah, lots.08:05
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jussi01someone give me a flash site with sound to test from...08:05
jussi01BluesKaj: nm... i figured it...08:06
jussi01sorry to have bothered...08:06
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zombielionjhutchins: I cant get a damn thing installed for it not a plugin not mplayer not nothing it is all telling me break install08:06
jhutchinszombielion: 1) Watch the language, childeren present, 2) pasetbin the whole error message.08:08
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Dusk_i have usb adsl modem and always i need to write "pon ueagle-atm" when i open kubuntu...is there a way to make this command automatic?? i want it to connect automaticly08:10
ronzothat converter helped...<3 thx all!08:10
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weshuhu i've already been got install java (: but was for sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk08:13
Dusk_i have usb adsl modem and always i need to write "pon ueagle-atm" when i open kubuntu...is there a way to make this command automatic?? i want it to connect automaticly08:13
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Dusk_no way for commands at startup??,08:13
wesdid you configure it with pppoeconf? kubuntu should configure it auto'08:13
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sparrclamav in default installations generate a crapload of 'clamav isnt running' and/or 'need to upgrade' warnings via cron output, should that be the case?08:14
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BluesKajsparr,you don't need it unless you runwindows under wine08:15
BluesKajor a vb08:16
jrickdoes anyone know how to make J08:16
sparrBluesKaj: or deliver email to windows clients08:16
jrickdoes anyone know how to make krusader the default instead of konq?08:16
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Tm_Tjrick: hum, and why would you like to do that?08:17
rustalotcan I get a text-completion plugin for kate?08:17
jricki don't like konq, and orthodox file managers rock08:17
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BluesKajeven receiving malware from windows clients won't affect linux08:17
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zombielionw32codecs libdvdcss where can i find these files08:18
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages08:18
jussi01zombielion: i think they are in there08:18
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Tm_Tjrick: well you can split Konqueror view, let me show you...08:18
frojndwhy would start screen saver even though I am watching movie in full screen mode ??08:18
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jrickTm_T: yeah, i see the split view feature, but it doesn't have a command line like krusader.08:20
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jrickI would like it if it would automatically open krusader when I click System Menu -> Home or something like that.08:21
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Tm_Tjrick: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/Konqueror-split1.png08:21
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daquinowhy doesn't my usb mouse get auto detected when i plug it in ?08:22
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daquinowhy do i have to reboot ?08:22
jrickoooohhhhh oxygen :)08:22
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Tm_Tjrick: yaya, anyway, that's Konqueror, split, with konsole08:22
jrickTm_T: but how do I get the console like in that screenie?08:23
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CJarihey, can some one help me to get the wireless network card working?08:23
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Tm_Tjrick: hum, it's in window menu08:23
Tm_T"show terminal emulator"08:23
jrickI don't have a window menu08:23
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t2_ hi,  my mic is not working on kubuntu.. i have full-duplex turned on int kde control center and the mic is not muted in Kmix..  I am testing the mic with Krec audio recorder program and getting no output when i play a recorded sound.  can someone please point me to a simple method as i found 10's of troubleshooting commands on the net i have no idea how to decipher them08:24
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Tm_Tjrick: interesting08:25
jrickI don't see it anywhere08:25
jrickTm_T: are you on kubuntu?08:26
jrickwhat kde?08:26
Tm_TKDE 3.5.708:26
jrickme too08:26
Tm_Tbut I have my modifications, don't know if that is the key08:26
lordi_t2_: but in other os its ok?08:26
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Tm_Tjrick: check shortcut key settings08:27
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jrickwhere is that?08:27
zombieliondoes anyone use the dolphin file  manager instead of konqueror08:27
Tm_Tnot me08:28
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t2_t2_:  i don't currently have other OS,  but it used to work on windows before08:28
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t2_lordi_:  ^^08:28
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jrickTm_T: that like opens a window, not a console like in the screenie.08:28
t2_lordi_: so many things about it on the net i don't know how to narrow things down... it seems like a million diff things could be causing no mic08:29
lordi_t2_: but krec shows input?08:29
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jrickTm_T: orthodox file managers were designed to have close keyboard compatibility and have a shell. (think midnight commander)08:29
t2_lordi: if is tap the mic hard with my hand it shows some input08:30
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t2_damn keep mistyping stuff08:30
jrickkonq is not an orthodox file manager, no matter how hard it tries to be.08:30
t2_lordi_: if I tap the mic hard with my hand it shows some input08:30
lordi_t2_: yeah got it but no idea, tried it with teamspeak?08:31
zombielionhow do i add the seveas pckages to my adept manager repositories08:31
crocodile-when you have amarok in small player mode, is there some way to add a button to "open" files ???08:31
crocodile-it seems crazy to me they don't have an open button by default08:31
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t2_lordi_: mic volume in kmix is on max.   is teamspeak a recorder ill go try now from synap08:31
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Tm_Tjrick: I know08:32
lordi_t2_: teamspeak is like voice over ip, to speak with someone. you can test in/output there08:32
jrickTm_T: was that screenie from your computer?08:32
Tm_Tjrick: yes08:32
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rmullins_can anyone here give some help for Kopete?08:32
jrickTm_T: side question: where did you get your oxygen icons?08:32
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Tm_Tjrick: I made them08:33
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Tm_Tjrick: well, made them usable in my system anyway08:33
t2_lordi_: ok just saw it.  so i can use this to test locally08:33
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Tm_Tjrick: anyway, kcontrol -> kde components might help in your problem08:33
jrickTm_T: yeah, i know that you didn't actually make the svg's and such.08:33
Tm_Tjrick: well, I made some of them too ;)08:34
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jrickTm_T: i'm not seeing anything under File Manager.08:35
rmullins_Can anyone help with a connection issue using Kopete?08:35
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Tm_Tjrick: well then, I don't know (:08:36
zombielion_i use kubuntu 7.04 and i was to know how i can get the seveaspackages to show up in adept manager how do i add it to my repositories08:36
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jrickTm_T: ok then, I have to go anyways.08:36
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aldinhow to install real player?08:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:37
Tm_Taldin: ^08:37
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wiglafGood day all08:39
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BluesKajzombielion_, go to the seveas site, http://seveas.imbrandon.com/08:39
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wiglafI'm looking for help getting wifi running on an ubuntu laptop...any takers?08:39
dverweireanyone have compiz-fusion working on kubuntu edgy?08:39
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wiglafooh, dver...I did last month, but I didn't record my fiddling08:40
wiglafwhat's your graphics chipset?08:40
zombielion_can all ubuntu programs work in kubuntu08:40
dverweirewiglaf: ouch. nvidia. xgl is working and beryl is working now.08:40
Tm_Tzombielion_: yes, same system08:40
dverweiremost of the howtos are for gnome08:40
aldinTm_T: i need realplayer10.deb08:41
wiglafwell that's exciting, Dver08:41
BluesKajdverweire, i tried it but it's abit much for my scope ..it assumes a fairly advanced knowledge of debian/kubuntu file commands etc08:41
wiglafumm...I remember having to find some package that isn't listed in the gnome howtos08:41
BluesKajzombielion_, mostly yes08:42
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dverweirewiglaf: did you compile it yourself?08:42
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wiglafoh, no it was simply a matter of adding a repo from some beryl-compiz list08:43
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daquinohm klaptop when i close the lid doesn't allow me the option to hibernate08:43
wiglafthen grabbing the package, but I can't remember for the life of me what that was08:43
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dverweireoh, cool. i'll have to search for that. i know there is a repo for feisty.08:43
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wiglafyeah, hit some beryl-compiz forums with a good search...the Kubuntu community isn't very thick with compiz-fusion help08:44
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dverweirebummer. thanks for your help, wiglaf.08:45
wiglafsuch as it is...ha08:45
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BluesKajdverweire, look for the tuxfamily repos in google08:46
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dverweirethanks BluesKaj!08:46
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BluesKajnp, dverweire08:47
zombielion_BlueKaj: do i just put this in deb http://seveas.imbrandon.com feisty-seveas all deb-src http://seveas.imbrandon.com feisty-seveas all  In sources.list just like that or is there some other way i need to do it08:48
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BluesKajzombielion_,in the terminal run : wget http://seveas.imbrandon.com/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -   .Then do' sudo aptitude update '08:52
BluesKajthen zombielion_ \yes for you first question08:53
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BluesKajand sudo aptitude update again08:54
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logixoulhi. how do I exchange the 2 audio channels?08:58
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zombielion_how do i log in as the root09:00
ubotudo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo09:01
zombielion_i am the only user but i dont have admin permissions09:01
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crocodile-monster garage factoid09:01
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zombielion_can i add repositories through the console to sources.list09:02
crocodile-yes edit the sources.list file09:03
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zombielion_cuz i am the only user and i cant add anything to sources.list if it opens in kate like a txt file09:03
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crocodile-sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list09:03
jussi01!sudo | zombielion_09:03
ubotuzombielion_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:03
BluesKajzombielion_, alt+f2 thentype kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list09:04
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crocodileyour welcome zombie **09:06
zombielion_BluesKaj: it is empty i know that there is already links in there but what you told me to do gave me one with nothing. im very sorry but i am new to kubuntu well linux in general09:06
zombielion_yes thankyou09:07
CJariany one knows what "-network UNCLAIMED" means in lshw command's output?09:07
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ActionParsniphi all09:07
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zombielion_crocodile: now how do i save this09:08
crocodileare you using pico or kate?09:08
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crocodileeither ctrl-o or ctrl-x09:09
crocodileo will save and stay in pico, x will save and exit09:09
zombielion_and then do i need to do anything for this to show up in adept manager09:09
crocodilezombielion_ - kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list09:09
crocodilethat really should work for you, maybe you did a typo09:09
crocodile(in the run box)09:10
ActionParsnipdoes anyone use DeVeDe in here?09:10
ActionParsnipor can suggest an AVi to DVD app?09:10
BluesKajok zombielion_ http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/  ,you can geberate a sourceslist from this site just follow the instructions according to your compter model etc and copy and paste the result to the blank page that you got with the kdesu command09:10
BluesKajActionParsnip, i did use devede for a while ... i hear it is much better than in previous versions now09:11
logixoulGuys, how do I exchange the left and right speaker channels? KMix doesn't seem to have the option.09:11
BluesKajanother app you might consider is Tovid09:12
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jhutchinslogixoul: It may be that your sound card doesn't have that option.09:12
daquinocan someone please explain to me what type of bug this is in this photo ? https://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfvxwwvc_8gzp8n909:12
jhutchinsThat would probably be an "effect" that might be available on some players.09:12
BluesKajlogixoul, why not just switch the spkrs around .. ?09:12
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: The video is fine but my sound is just a mess09:12
jhutchinslogixoul: That would probably be an "effect" that might be available on some players.09:13
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: all crackly and noncoherent09:13
logixouljhutchins: hm, okay. thx.09:13
BluesKajActionParsnip, try tovid09:13
logixoulBluesKaj: cable ain't long enough :)09:13
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: will investigate09:13
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: cheers man09:13
jhutchinsdaquino: Not obviously a bug, just a graphic being displayed.09:13
BluesKajActionParsnip, it works well , :)09:14
jhutchinsdaquino: Cool background on the panel.09:14
daquinojhutchins:  if you notice the little window in the middle.... thats the session mananger ... sometimes the entire firefox window shows up like that in the top left09:15
daquinoits a bug!09:15
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daquinoi have to kill firefox and then restart it09:15
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logixouldaquino: what happens if you try to maximize it09:17
daquinoits a emtpy window09:17
jhutchinsdaquino: You realize that firefox is a hereditary pile of code that has been evolving for nearly two decades and has never been rewritten.  It is FULL of bugs.09:17
daquinoyea well this only happens on this system... i have never seen it anywhere else...and i work with xulrunner for one of my projects so i know how firefox is put together09:18
logixoulwell, they did rewrite netscape 4 :)09:18
jhutchinsdaquino: There are bugs still in the history function that I reported around 1992, when it was called "mosaic".09:18
daquinojhutchins:  i see this bug no where else... its probably a gtk issue09:18
jhutchinslogixoul: Yes, but mozilla/firefox are from the original code tree, not from the netscape tree.09:18
Minatakujhutchins: Why not put aside your pointless hatred of Firefox and actually help this guy09:19
jhutchinslogixoul: They patched stuff back into the mozilla tree (the original development name).09:19
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jhutchinsMinataku: I don't hate it, I just know it's full of bugs, and "stuff happens" is usually about all you can do.09:19
daquinoand hte background on my bar is really the background of my desktop.... my bar is see through09:19
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jhutchinsMinataku: If you know what to do, by all means speak up!09:20
MinatakuFunny how it's "stuff happens" when it's something you don't care for09:20
BluesKajjhutchins, what about konq ?09:20
jhutchinsBluesKaj: Yeah, he could use that instead, it works for most pages.09:20
jhutchinsBluesKaj: I do have to use firefox for some stuff, but I only use it when I have to.09:20
jhutchinsBluesKaj: It's not that I hate it.09:20
BluesKajis Konq a cleaner browser from a code pov?09:21
jhutchinsdaquino: Sorry, Minataku is right, this is a diversion and isn't helping you.09:21
NickPrestajhutchins, out of curiosity, what browser do you use? Konqueror?09:21
jhutchinsMinataku: I would suggest you check the ubuntu and mozilla bugreports and forums, see if anyone else has seen and solved this.09:21
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jhutchinsNickPresta: Yeah, 90% of the time.09:21
MinatakuI actually just walked in, what was the bug?09:22
jhutchinser, daquino, Check out the bugreports and forums.09:22
jhutchinsMinataku: sorry.09:22
NickPrestajhutchins, neat. I use it about 60% of the time. There are a couple key extensions I cannot live without and for some reason, do not work with KonqiJS.09:22
daquinodo you guys not see this issue ?09:22
daquinoi have been seeing it since beginning09:22
Minatakujhutchins: s'ok09:22
jhutchinsdaquino: I don't eve use the session mgr.09:22
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Minatakujhutchins: I'm sorry as well, I could've been a lot nicer about that09:22
NickPrestaWelcome, slow-motion09:23
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BluesKajdaquino, i tried that site with konq it rendered exactly the same way as FF did09:24
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lordi_anyone got a solution for .ts file videos?09:25
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BluesKajthat is a video file , lordi_09:26
daquinowtf is he talking about09:26
NickPrestalordi_, mplayer should be able to play it.09:26
daquinoanyway with klaptop batter thing can i not setup hibernation and such based on closing my laptop lid ?09:26
daquinonever mind09:27
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lordi_i installed mplayer and kaffeine09:27
lordi_i also thought it would be no problem09:27
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NickPrestaAFAIK, .TS videos are used for storing video on a DVD and is compressed using basic MPEG video compression.09:27
NickPrestalordi_, try VLC09:28
lordi_renaming to mpg or mpeg doesnt work09:28
lordi_k will try09:28
NickPrestalordi_, file extensions mean very-little, if anything, on a *nix environment09:28
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BluesKajactually .ts is a videofile all set for burning not playing09:29
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Admiral_ChicagoI'm lookign to back up my home partition, to another partition (not share home dirs, just move it there)09:29
Admiral_Chicagohow can I do that?09:29
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lordi_thanks a lot, vlc works!09:30
NickPrestaAdmiral_Chicago, I like rsync (grsync for GTK frontend).09:30
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BluesKajvlc is great for all kinds of video files except those on the web09:31
lordi_this file extenison is used for hd by pro sieben germany09:31
NickPrestaAdmiral_Chicago, install "grsync" and run the application. It is intuitive.09:31
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delltesterhi guys... need help on my wifi connection09:32
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Admiral_Chicagoproblem is I'm doing a reistall because of my crap performance with apt09:32
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NickPresta!question | delltester09:33
ubotudelltester: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:33
lordi_is there a good backup software for the whole system?09:34
delltestersorry... i have a dell truemobile wireless 1390 card and i installed the native drivers... connection seems really really slow09:34
delltesteris ndiswrapper better than the native drivers?09:34
NickPrestalordi_, again, I really like rsync.09:34
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NickPrestalordi_, Admiral_Chicago, check out http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ if you're interested in using rsync09:34
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hilaryHey everyone =)09:35
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hilaryanyone alive?09:39
axxoyou i hope09:39
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binkslol axxo as a nick09:41
binksanyone got sasc-ng working09:42
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sahi everyone09:44