[12:14] <TheGateKeeper> Tm_T: chill
[12:14] <savetheWorld> TheGateKeeper: thats a hoax article by the way.
[12:15] <Tm_T> TheGateKeeper: I'm chill (:
[12:15] <Tm_T> !away | hoisn_zZzZz
[12:15] <ubotu> hoisn_zZzZz: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[12:15] <TheGateKeeper> savetheWorld: don't care, it's funny and probable true to life :/
[12:17] <nick_> load -rs \home\nick
[12:17] <nick_> load -rs \home\nick\xdcc\xdccklipper.mrc
[12:17] <TeraDyne> TheGateKeeper: It looks like it would have come from my hometown.
[12:17] <Tm_T> nick_: hum?
[12:18] <acemo> acording to KDE system guard, im using 1.8GB ram.. while i just have Kopete, Amarok, Opera and Kontact open :S
[12:18] <Tm_T> acemo: krhm
[12:18] <juan278> when i try and compile summit i get " Can't find X includes." what should i do is there a package i can install
[12:19] <Tm_T> acemo: look the lowest part of that meter
[12:19] <savetheWorld> TheGateKeeper: the funny part would have been when the police arrested him for filing a false report which is a prosecutable offense designed for exactly this type of abuse.
[12:19] <Tm_T> acemo: OR use "free -m" in konsole
[12:19] <Tm_T> savetheWorld: TheGateKeeper: -offtopic please
[12:19] <Tm_T> acemo: and look -/+ line
[12:19] <savetheWorld> from snopes.com : Despite claims of this story's having been run in the Meridian Mississippi Star, searches through the online Not a happy camper archives of that paper fail to turn up the piece. Moreover, the writing style used in the item should discourage anyone from believing a journalist penned it.
[12:19] <savetheWorld> Tm_T: sure.
[12:19] <athena> f***, I can't get my repository set up right....
[12:20] <acemo> acemo@acemo:~$ free -m
[12:20] <acemo>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[12:20] <acemo> Mem:          2026       1855        170          0        113       1314
[12:20] <acemo> -/+ buffers/cache:        427       1598
[12:20] <acemo> Swap:         1906         43       1863
[12:20] <Tm_T> !pastebin | acemo
[12:20] <narcispy> is there a way you can bring back up what you pasted previously in the pastebin?
[12:20] <acemo> sorry
[12:20] <ubotu> acemo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:21] <Tm_T> narcispy: hum, they do disappear?
[12:21] <narcispy> i dunno, im just saying can i pull up my name and see what i posted previously
[12:21] <narcispy> since I lost my link to them on another partition
[12:21] <Tm_T> depends pastebin site possibly, I don't know
[12:21] <narcispy> thats what im asking
[12:22] <Sanne> juan278: try libx11-dev, and if that's not enough, xorg-dev
[12:22] <narcispy> if that site allows for that, just wondering i would think so since it asks your name
[12:22] <acemo> Tm_T: http://rafb.net/p/wvWBPC82.html output from free -m
[12:22] <Tm_T> acemo: yes, that says you use ~430 MB ram + cache&buffers
[12:24] <acemo> ahh.. so its like linux doesnt cleans the memory when it doesnt needs to?
[12:24] <Tm_T> acemo: well, yes
[12:24] <Tm_T> acemo: or you rather keep your ram unused (and read disks instead)
[12:25] <acemo> Tm_T: great, i was getting scared.. since my friend only used 500MB and mine used 1.8GB while i got almost nothing open, glad it doesnt really uses that much
[12:25] <Tm_T> acemo: heh
[12:25] <Dusk_> when i installed binary ati driver with apt-get do i need to configure xorg.conf anyway??
[12:26] <psicobra> ok so what are the best sources to add to the repository? i need to add a few progs that arent in the list?
[12:26] <strtochar[] > Is there a command line version of Limewire or something similar?
[12:26] <Tm_T> Dusk_: propably
[12:26] <psicobra> that was directed at any one
[12:26] <ardchoille> Dusk_: You need to run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg         and choose the nvidia driver instead of the nv or whatever you're using now. Then restart x.
[12:26] <TheGateKeeper> Dusk_: I would think so you do for nvidia
[12:27] <Tm_T> !repositories | psicobra
[12:27] <ubotu> psicobra: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:27] <TheGateKeeper> !ati
[12:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:27] <Tm_T> titans: got it?
[12:27] <TheGateKeeper> Dusk_: ^^^^
[12:28] <Dusk_> TheGateKeeper: not nvidia ati
[12:28] <ardchoille> Dusk_: I misread you, sorry about that.
[12:28] <TheGateKeeper> Dusk_: yes but you will still have to do something see the ubotu meg
[12:29] <geila> holaaaaaaa
[12:29] <TheGateKeeper> Dusk_: I was just saying if nvidia needs you to do something then ati will also
[12:29] <Tm_T> hello geila
[12:30] <psicobra> Tm_T: those instructions dont work
[12:30] <Tm_T> psicobra: hum?
[12:30] <Dusk_> Open the restricted drivers manager included in 7.04 "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver". This will hopefully enable fglrx in a painless way. If not, follow the instructions for Edgy.
[12:31] <Dusk_> no need to configure xorg.conf for directrendering?
[12:31] <Tm_T> psicobra: what you mean?
[12:31] <TheGateKeeper> Dusk_: try that first, should sort things out, if not take a closer look at xorg.conf
[12:32] <Dusk_> TheGateKeeper: ok thanks
[12:32] <geila> hola
[12:32] <zipper> What do i need in order to be able to use the lyrics thingie in amarok? I click the "Run script manager" - but nothing happens. What am i supposed to install?
[12:32] <Dusk_> !firefox
[12:32] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:33] <Dusk_> in kubuntu no firefox??
[12:33] <Tm_T> Dusk_: not by default, and why should be
[12:33] <Dusk_> by default?
[12:33] <Tm_T> yup
[12:33] <strtochar[] > Is there a command line version of Limewire or something similar?
[12:33] <Tm_T> so, you can install, but it's not there in default install
[02:33] <dwidmann> http://pastebin.com/935658
[02:34] <dwidmann> underdog5004: oh, and you do know that you don't have to cat the file to be able to grep it right? (or maybe not), you can grep the file directly
[02:34] <underdog5004> oh, cool
[02:34] <underdog5004> I'm going to try it tonight...gotta go eat dinner w/ gf and family...thanks for the help...
[02:34] <underdog5004> !
[02:35] <dwidmann> underdog5004: the "if" line makes me wonder too
[02:36] <underdog5004> yeah...I'm totally new to shell scripting
[02:36] <jpmaiden> i have a problems wuith ark
[02:36] <jpmaiden> help me please
[02:36] <DanaKil> explain your problem then :)
[02:36] <greg> finally got nvidia drivers to work:)
[02:36] <DanaKil> with envy ?
[02:36] <greg> ya
[02:36] <DanaKil> nice script
[02:36] <greg> thats three blue screens
[02:37] <greg> i went through today and then i used envy
[02:37] <DanaKil> ^^
[02:37] <greg> so now i just installed ubuntu and i just installed my video drivers
[02:37] <greg> anything else i will need?
[02:37] <dwidmann> underdog5004: personally I hate using shellscripts ... I avoid them and use python even if it doesn't make 100% sense to ...
[02:37] <jpmaiden> no hay ndie que hable espaol??
[02:37] <DanaKil> you need to install all multimedia things (flash player, codecs...)
[02:37] <greg> gah
[02:38] <DanaKil> there is repository specialised to multimedia things
[02:38] <DanaKil> have you enabled the restricted repository in adept ?
[02:38] <greg> um
[02:38] <greg> i dont think so
[02:38] <greg>  this my first time using linux
[02:39] <DanaKil> "kdesu adept_manager"
[02:39] <DanaKil> and you can activates some supplementary repository
[02:39] <greg> it says its not installe dyet
[02:39] <greg> installed yet
[02:39] <DanaKil> do you use ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[02:40] <greg> ubuntu
[02:40] <DanaKil> oh, it's maybe a kubuntu apps, i never use ubuntu
[02:40] <DanaKil> (don't like gnome at all)
[02:40] <devnull> Any way to downgrade xorg to 7.1?
[02:40] <greg> whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu
[02:40] <darkrift> anyone here who can help me figure out how to get this partition resized?
[02:41] <DanaKil> ubuntu use Gnome and kubuntu use KDE
[02:41] <devnull> greg: kubuntu uses kde, ubuntu uses gnome
[02:41] <Dragnslcr> greg- Kubuntu uses KDE by default, Ubuntu uses Gnome by default
[02:41] <devnull> only as defaults, both are extendible to each other.
[02:41] <DanaKil> and KDE is soooo sexy !
[02:41] <DanaKil> <___<
[02:41] <greg> what is better kde or gnome?
[02:41] <greg> gawd
[02:41] <DanaKil> depends on your need
[02:41] <darkrift> lol
[02:41] <devnull> kde has a more familiar feel to it if you come from windows
[02:41] <darkrift> yeah
[02:41] <greg> i want the sexy looking beryl
[02:41] <DanaKil> you can have beryl on the both
[02:41] <darkrift> your in a kde channel..... most ppl here wont vite for gnome
[02:41] <greg> and the cool looking toys
[02:41] <Dragnslcr> Compiz and Beryl both run in KDE and Gnome
[02:42] <greg> damn
[02:42] <darkrift> vite = vote*
[02:42] <Dragnslcr> And I think Xfce as well
[02:42] <greg> can someone link me to the kubuntu
[02:42] <greg> ><
[02:42] <DanaKil> you can install "kubuntu-desktop"
[02:42] <DanaKil> and then choose between gnome or kde at the login screen
[02:43] <greg> oh sweet
[02:43] <darkrift> anyone?
[02:43] <greg> will i have to reinstall everything>?
[02:43] <DanaKil> no
[02:44] <greg> k iam on the kubuntu download page
[02:44] <greg> just download the full cd again?
[02:44] <devnull> I'm more of an advanced user myself (coming from gentoo), and I highly like *ubuntu
[02:44] <DanaKil> no, you can just "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-destkop"
[02:44] <DanaKil> no need to download or burn a CD
[02:45] <greg> it didnt work
[02:45] <greg>  it says
[02:45] <Schuenemann> hi, I want to upgrade from edgy to feisty. I already downloaded feisyt. What is my best option?
[02:45] <greg> couldnt find package
[02:45] <DanaKil> :o
[02:45] <greg> oh you spelt it wnrog
[02:45] <greg> wrong
[02:45] <greg> :P
[02:45] <kops_> can any one help a linux noob like me? with a intel grafikproblem?
[02:45] <DanaKil> oh, sorry
[02:46] <greg> lol
[02:46] <greg> :)
[02:46] <Schuenemann> I have to format first?
[02:46] <DanaKil> Schuenemann> you can simply overwrite your current install
[02:46] <DanaKil> Schuenemann> i hope that your home is in a separate partition ?
[02:46] <Schuenemann> nope
[02:46] <DanaKil> erf
[02:47] <Schuenemann> I already backed up everything I need
[02:47] <greg> ok sweet its downloading
[02:47] <DanaKil> ok
[02:47] <intelikey> i don't have a partition
[02:47] <DanaKil> then you can simply overwrite, the installer will format your partition
[02:47] <greg> so after this update i wont have to reinstall anything?
[02:47] <DanaKil> but if you can create a separate partition for your home, it's higly recommended
[02:47] <DanaKil> no greg, it's the same "linux" but two different OS
[02:48] <jeff_> i'm trying to mount a usb hdd (ntfs), but all efforts return "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" ;
[02:48] <jeff_> any ideas? ;\
[02:48] <greg> linux looks so sexy in youtube... but kinda complicated to get working
[02:48] <DanaKil> no jeff_ , sorry
[02:48] <DanaKil> greg> yes, i must admit that it was very hard for me at first but now, i'm in love
[02:49] <intelikey> jeff_ maybe add your self to the 'hal' group ?
[02:49] <greg> haha, but linux gives you total control
[02:49] <intelikey> or hald
[02:49] <DanaKil> greg> once you have learn some tricks and you have a well configured system, it's a bliss to use :)
[02:49] <jeff_> maybe. i'm a newb. where do i add myself to the hal group?
[02:49] <greg> ya. i was on earlier and someone told me just to sit in this chat room and i will learn alot
[02:50] <intelikey> jeff_ kmenu - system settings - users & groups
[02:50] <intelikey> ?
[02:50] <DanaKil> greg> the best thing is to try things yourself... how to compile apps, learn tutorial, etc...
[02:50] <intelikey> not sure how your menu is setup
[02:51] <greg> ya
[02:51] <greg> i just wanna get it all set up today
[02:51] <intelikey> greg if you sit in here and try to help others it will force a learning curve
[02:51] <Minataku> Heh
[02:51] <a-865> anyone know what the daemon is called to make gtk apps like firefox use the KDE specified system fonts?
[02:51] <Minataku> I tend to force a learning curve on everyone else
[02:52] <Minataku> What with my CLI-based solutions
[02:52] <Minataku> X3
[02:52] <darkrift> damn
[02:52] <intelikey> Minataku oh really...
[02:52] <intelikey> :)
[02:52] <darkrift> 1k users in #ubuntu and nobody there can help me either :(
[02:52] <Minataku> intelikey: I've confused many a person in here
[02:52] <DanaKil> a-865> it's a daemon ? you can set something like that in kcontrol / Appearence / GTK style and police
[02:52] <intelikey> darkrift what it is ?
[02:53] <Minataku> But then I'm a rather confusing person overall
[02:53] <Minataku> XD
[02:53] <darkrift> unable to resize my ntfs partition
[02:53] <darkrift> it has a lock and an ! next to it
[02:53] <darkrift> unable to find mountpoint
[02:53] <a-865> DanaKil: intelikey I know to set it there, but wondered what that is controlling
[02:53] <darkrift> i tried unmounting it in konq with no luck
[02:54] <intelikey> darkrift my advice would be boot win to safe mode and scandisk + defrag   then try with *parted
[02:54] <darkrift> damn
[02:54] <darkrift> i was avoiding booting windows
[02:54] <bryan> If I use my pictures for the screen saver it keeps freezing in a picture.  What could cause the issue?
[02:54] <darkrift> wish there was a linux windows defragger
[02:54] <darkrift> lol
[02:54] <Dragnslcr> While we're talking about partitioning, I need a quick sanity check
[02:55] <intelikey> yeah but if it's a data at end of fs issue darkrift you haven't much choice
[02:55] <greg> ok... so i downloaded it all it say'd  it was setting it all up an dnow its at my greg@greg again now what?
[02:55] <jeff_> intelikey: i went into group settings and added my user to the haldaemon group, but the drive still fails to mount.
[02:55] <crocodile> I want to run 'compiz --replace' on KDE startup.. I know it goes in ~/.kde/Autostart/ but I don't know how to actually add the command.  Help please?
[02:55] <intelikey> jeff_ same error ?
[02:55] <jeff_> yep.
[02:55] <DanaKil> greg> you can select which os to use at the graphical login prompt
[02:55] <Dragnslcr> Since I wasn't smart enough to create a separate partition for /home, I'd like to create a new partition out of the existing one without losing any data. gparted can handle that, right?
[02:56] <greg> it did that
[02:56] <greg>  so now i just restart?
[02:56] <greg>  or did it all install?
[02:56] <DanaKil> greg> i think it's ok
[02:56] <greg> ok brb restarting
[02:56] <DanaKil> just do a ctrl alt backsapce
[02:56] <Dragnslcr> crocodile- I'm using Beryl right now, and I just put a symlink to beryl-manager in .kde/Autostart
[02:56] <intelikey> jeff_ ok open a konsole and do this;  dmesg | tail      and pastebin the results
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> crocodile- if Compiz doesn't have the same kind of manager program, you can just create a bash script
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> #!/bin/bash
[02:57] <intelikey> !paste | jeff_
[02:57] <ubotu> jeff_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> compiz --replace
[02:57] <bryan> any one?
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> And make sure that the file is executable
[02:58] <DanaKil> btw, i followed this tutorial to have the latest compiz-fusion, and it was ok
[02:58] <DanaKil> http://vorian.org/?p=82
[02:58] <crocodile> Dragnslcr: how do I do that exactly?
[02:58] <greg> oh wow
[02:58] <greg> kde looks nice
[02:58] <Schuenemann> DanaKil, sorry, I had problems
[02:58] <intelikey> bryan bug in xsreensaver ?
[02:58] <Dragnslcr> crocodile- make the file? You can just use Kate
[02:58] <callen81> is there a known bug with realtek gigabit nics
[02:58] <crocodile> right but what goes in it I mean
[02:58] <Schuenemann> so, I should overwrite? that will erase everything this current installation has?
[02:58] <DanaKil> greg> actually, i think the default theme of kde is ugly but it's higly customizable :)
[02:58] <jeff_> what do you want me to paste? dmesg?
[02:59] <intelikey> !paste | jeff_
[02:59] <ubotu> jeff_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:59] <intelikey> jeff_ ok open a konsole and do this;  dmesg | tail      and pastebin the results
[02:59] <greg> what msn program do yo use in linux that looks sexy also:)
[02:59] <DanaKil> kopete
[02:59] <Schuenemann> greg, amsn
[02:59] <DanaKil> included in kde
[02:59] <Dragnslcr> crocodile- those two lines I gave you before
[02:59] <Dragnslcr> #!/bin/bash
[02:59] <Dragnslcr> compiz --replace
[02:59] <callen81> amsn for the win
[02:59] <greg> ya?
[02:59] <greg> it pretty sweet?
[02:59] <bryan> intellikey  ?
[02:59] <crocodile> Dragnslcr: and then save the file in .kde/autostart ?
[02:59] <Schuenemann> well, it's the nicer one I've found
[02:59] <DanaKil> greg> well, try both
[03:00] <Schuenemann> try all you can
[03:00] <devnull> !ati
[03:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:00] <Dragnslcr> Kopete is nice. Not quite as mature as Gaim yet, but getting there quickly
[03:00] <DanaKil> greg> kopete is installed by default in kde
[03:00] <Schuenemann> gaim, kopete, amsn
[03:00] <Dragnslcr> crocodile- yup
[03:00] <devnull> gaim now = pidgin.
[03:00] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, but Pidgin hasn't made it to the repository yet
[03:00] <Schuenemann> DanaKil, sorry, just to clarify: overwriting this installation will erase everything, right?
[03:00] <callen81> if you like how msn works/looks in windows then go amsn
[03:00] <intelikey> bryan well it could.   i have used the slideshow feature and personal photos in the screensaver, no issues with dapper....  so maybe it's a bug in your version ?
[03:00] <Dragnslcr> It still has Gaim 2.0b6
[03:00] <jeff_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27081/
[03:01] <DanaKil> Schuenemann> yes
[03:01] <crocodile> Dragnslcr: chmod 755 it right?
[03:01] <bryan> intelikey-  what can I do?
[03:01] <Schuenemann> alrite, I guess I'll try that
[03:01] <Schuenemann> thx
[03:01] <DanaKil> Schuenemann> the installer will erase the root partition but if you have a separated home, it can let it unformated and mount it for your new install
[03:02] <DanaKil> Schuenemann> and try do a separate home, it's really better
[03:02] <Dragnslcr> crocodile- maybe 744 if there are other users and/or servers on your system
[03:02] <Schuenemann> ok... I'll format everything
[03:02] <Schuenemann> why?
[03:02] <Dragnslcr> crocodile- anything above 500 should work
[03:02] <Schuenemann> why would I need 2 homes?
[03:02] <DanaKil> because when you reinstall, you can let all your files on this home partition
[03:02] <intelikey> jeff_ in that konsole type this;  sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sdc /media              and tell me what it says
[03:02] <DanaKil> and do whatever you want with the root parttion
[03:02] <Schuenemann> I prefer to remove all tracks of this installation
[03:03] <Dragnslcr> DanaKil- since you seem to know all about this, I have a question
[03:03] <Schuenemann> I guess I'll install and try opensolaris too
[03:03] <crocodile> Dragnslcr: ok, gonna restart and see if this works
[03:03] <jeff_> it's asking for the filesys type.
[03:03] <DanaKil> moreover, all your settings are in your home partition, so if you do a fresh install of ubuntu and mount your old home, you have all your settings (backgrounds, application settings...)
[03:03] <Dragnslcr> crocodile- you should be able to just log out and log back in
[03:03] <intelikey> jeff_ k.
[03:03] <crocodile> thats what i meant :)
[03:03] <intelikey> jeff_ in that konsole type this;  sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/sdc1 /media              and tell me what it says  note the added '1'
[03:03] <Schuenemann> DanaKil, can't I just backup ~/.kde/ and then overwrite?
[03:04] <DanaKil> yes Schuenemann, i think it's ok
[03:04] <DanaKil> but there are some other hidden directory, maybe you can save them too
[03:04] <jeff_> beautiful!
[03:04] <Dragnslcr> DanaKil- since I was too stupid to partition my drive and am going to install i386 instead of amd64, should I be able to use gparted to cut a new partition out of the existing one without losing any data?
[03:04] <jeff_> it worked. thanks a lot, intelikey. :D
[03:05] <Dragnslcr> Then install to the new partition and mount the existing partition to /home
[03:05] <Dragnslcr> (and move some files a bit, obviously
[03:05] <Schuenemann> ok, I'll try it
[03:05] <mtv> when i go to setup my printer my backend are all greyed out with the exception of samba and other.  What is wrong?
[03:05] <intelikey> jeff_ let me caution you about writing to ntfs without ntfs-3g  or fuse    it's dangerous.
[03:05] <Schuenemann> DanaKil, see you in another life, brother
[03:05] <DanaKil> Dragnslcr> well, I rarely use qparted so I don't know what it can do ^^
[03:05] <jeff_> but reading is safe?
[03:05] <DanaKil> bye Schuenemann
[03:06] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | jeff_
[03:06] <ubotu> jeff_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:06] <intelikey> jeff_ yeah should be.
[03:06] <jeff_> it's basically full of a bunch of videos/music that i want to play.
[03:06] <DanaKil> reading is safe
[03:06] <Schuenemann> oops, I almost forgot to backup my xorg.conf
[03:06] <kops_> i need help i need to upgrade me kernel to 2.6 i got kubuntu 7.04 buth a driver say that i dont have the lates kernel? how do i update it??
[03:06] <Dragnslcr> DanaKil- I'm pretty sure gparted is on the live discs, so I would use that
[03:06] <DanaKil> :)
[03:06] <Dragnslcr> I thought 7.04 has the 2.6 kernel already?
[03:07] <DanaKil> I think that ntfs write will be activated by default on the next ubuntu version, since the ntfs driver is at 1.0 version
[03:07] <greg> how in kubuntu how do i activate mymultimedia?
[03:07] <intelikey> DanaKil "maybe" safe.  he is mounted rw and full perms  so a read could invoke a write and make it unsafe
[03:07] <kops_> Dragnslcr: yes i did think that to
[03:07] <DanaKil> oh, then yes, you should mount it as read only
[03:07] <kops_> Dragnslcr: this is what i get
[03:07] <kops_> The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules.
[03:07] <kops_> Installation will be aborted. See the dri.log file for information on
[03:07] <kops_> what went wrong
[03:08] <Dragnslcr> Oh, I don't think it means you need a newer kernel, it means you need the right modules
[03:08] <intelikey> jeff_ when finished with that drive, issue this command;  sudo umount /media         and you can unplug it or what ever.
[03:08] <jeff_> will it mount automatically on boot?
[03:08] <DanaKil> greg> http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html  take a look here
[03:08] <kops_> Dragnslcr okey buth what do i need then?
[03:09] <intelikey> jeff_ no.   i didn't fix it.  i only manually mounted it.
[03:09] <kops_> or how do i found out what i need
[03:09] <Dragnslcr> kops_- dunno, depends on what you're trying to install
[03:09] <kops_> intel grafikdrivers
[03:09] <Dragnslcr> Might have to check Intel's web site
[03:09] <Dragnslcr> I thought the repositories had Intel drivers though
[03:09] <DanaKil> greg> it's an unofficial faqs with a lot of useful things
[03:10] <greg> k checking it out
[03:10] <jeff_> intelikey: i had ntfs-g3 prior, but the tool wouldn't detect the drive.
[03:10] <kops_> Dragnslcr a site sayd that i need to get the drivers to get 3d output.
[03:10] <mindslant> while trying to work on something else, I think I messed up my CD-Rom's mount settings.  It's no longer enabled.  I'm in the disk settings (kubuntu) and can't tell what I changed that dis-enabled it.
[03:10] <kops_> i got a laptop im new in linux. buth dont want to use windows shit edition:P
[03:11] <mindslant> anyone familiar with what the defualt settings for the cd-rom should be
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> kops_- try xserver-xorg-video-intel package, maybe
[03:11] <intelikey> jeff_ the problem with usb is that the device changes if you plug it in other ports and/or other things are plugged first.      you can use the blkid of the fs as a mount device in /etc/fstab if you want to set that up.
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> I just searched Adept for 'intel' and that's the closest thing I see
[03:11] <kops_> okey i try that Dragnslcr thx
[03:13] <kops_> okey thanks i try. it can only and with 2 things work or not work:D
[03:14] <kops_> bbl
[03:15] <brian__> anyone here have experiance mounting a maxtor usb drive?
[03:15] <intelikey> jeff_ the line would look something like this, example only: >>>> UUID="8c1d2968-ff59-4fdf-81ca-6f03e1d5fc3a" /media/usb_drive ntfs-g3 noauto,user,users,fmask=111,dmask=000 0 0  <<<<    you can get the actual blkid for the command by the same name "blkid "
[03:16] <brian__> well any large usb drive
[03:16] <jeff_> intelikey: the trailing 0 is the value i need to change?
[03:16] <intelikey> jeff_ that line in /etc/fstab would set it up so any user could just say   mount /media/usb_drive   and the thing should mount.
[03:16] <jeff_> oooh
[03:17] <intelikey> with full read/write permissions   ^
[03:17] <crocodile> Dragnslcr: okay it works, but I put 2 commads in the bash script and it's only running one.  How do I separate 2 commands?
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> crocodile- normally just put them on separate lines
[03:18] <kops_> Dragnslcr it worked thanks 4 the help.
[03:18] <crocodile> hm that's what I did
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> kops_- no problem. I'm amazed I guessed right
[03:18] <jeff_> intelikey: i tried to add that line to /etc/fstab but it's complaining about being unable to make a backup of the original.
[03:19] <kops_> Dragnslcr well its working and no i can run beryl:D
[03:19] <jeff_> . . .when saving.
[03:19] <intelikey> jeff_ then if it were a box i had to admin for someone that liked the gui i would put a small shell script on their desktop that they could click and it would mount/umount the thing.
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, Beryl is nice and shiny
[03:19] <intelikey> jeff_ to edit system files   "anything in /etc" you must be root.   so kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[03:19] <kops_> Dragnslcr yeah. its so damn nice:D i just love it. is im sick if im in love with beryl?:D
[03:19] <crocodile> compiz fusion beats beryl so far from what I've done with compfusion:)
[03:20] <intelikey> !kdesu
[03:20] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> crocodile- that's because Fusion is the successor to Beryl
[03:20] <DanaKil> the new expos mode of compiz-fusion is just... hmm
[03:20] <raschko> my Maxtor external drive doesn't want to appear, any ideas anyone?
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> I'm gonna try out Fusion when I switch my system over to i386 instead of amd64
[03:20] <DanaKil> http://youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w  (i repost this link to compiz-fusion)
[03:21] <kops_> Dragnslcr i need help with 1 more think:P it says that i have 12 desktops:P
[03:21] <intelikey> jeff_ and do be sure you use the blkid for the fs you wish to mount   and not the blkid that i posted
[03:21] <mtv> i would appreciate any help i can get on installing this x1150 lexmark printer.  I have recently upgraded from dapper, in which it was working.  I cannot install a new printer via the system settings-printers.  The option is greyed out
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> kops_- heh, you probably have 2 or 3 desktops set in KDE, plus all of the cube faces
[03:22] <intelikey> it's right nigh impossable that  UUID="8c1d2968-ff59-4fdf-81ca-6f03e1d5fc3a"  exists on your box
[03:22] <Dragnslcr> kops_- you can knock down KDE's desktops to 1
[03:22] <kops_> now att the meny. its 12 boxes
[03:23] <jeff_> intelikey: blkid only returns TYPE="ntfs" for /dev/sdc1
[03:23] <intelikey> ;/
[03:23] <jeff_> D:
[03:23] <intelikey> jeff_ sudo rm /etc/blkid ;blkid
[03:23] <kops_> Dragnslcr noo it @ the menu it says i got 12 desktops:P :(
[03:23] <intelikey> jeff_ sudo rm /etc/blkid* ;blkid
[03:23] <intelikey> i forgot the star...
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> kops_- in KDE's system settings?
[03:24] <kops_> Dragnslcr hmm i dont know i should check
[03:25] <kops_> Dragnslcr there it says 3 hmm
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> You probably want to set the number of desktops in KDE's settings to 1, then you can set whatever you want for cube faces in Beryl's settings
[03:25] <ubuntu> is there a sw to recover hd?
[03:25] <kops_> okey
[03:25] <intelikey> !testdisk | ubuntu
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about testdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <intelikey> !info testdisk | ubuntu
[03:25] <ubotu> ubuntu: testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[03:26] <mtv> i am getting a "backend error handler." how do i overcome this?
[03:26] <jeff_> intelikey: blkid now still returns      /dev/sdc1: TYPE="ntfs"
[03:26] <kops_> Dragnslcr ahh thanks know its 4:D

[03:27] <intelikey> jeff_ no id at all ???
[03:27] <jeff_> none.

[03:27] <jeff_> previously, blk id returned /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb1, and /dev/sda5 as well, but not anymore.
[03:28] <intelikey> sudo blkid
[03:28] <jeff_> intelikey: all right. the other devices are back, but sdc1 still lacks an id.
[03:29] <kops_> Dragnslcr well thx for the help maybe not a big deal 4 u buth it was 4 me
[03:29] <intelikey> jeff_ i'm at a loss,   i dont do windows so i've never seen that...
[03:29] <ubuntu> does the testdisk works with nfts partition?
[03:29] <jeff_> :(
[03:29] <Dragnslcr> kops_- no problem, that's what we're here for
[03:30] <intelikey> and i have nothing to test there      sorry,   maybe someone else can help with a  BLKID ?
[03:30] <intelikey> Jucato ?
[03:30] <intelikey> abrahao yes it should
[03:30] <jeff_> intelikey: i wish i hadn't done windows in the first place; then i wouldn't be in this mess :p thanks anyway.
[03:30] <abrahao> tks
[03:31] <kops_> Dragnslcr yeah thats true=) hmm maybe get some sleep now.
[03:31] <intelikey> jeff_ any way you can temporarrily move the files to some other disk ?   you could format that drive and put them back...  just a thought
[03:32] <Dragnslcr> kops_- don't mind if I do
[03:32] <mtv> how do i figure out what usblp0 in /dev is attached to?
[03:32] <jeff_> intelikey: there's about 400GB of media on there. i don't have another huge drive.
[03:32] <kops_> hmm weird when i try to play a movie vlc closes hmm
[03:32] <intelikey> jeff_ ouch
[03:33] <jeff_> i have my disc backups. i guess i'll reformat the drive and recover from them. ...that won't be a fun day.
[03:33] <kops_> Dragnslcr i need help with something more hmm
[03:33] <intelikey> jeff_ well.  give me a second and i'll work you up a script that will make using that drive easier.
[03:33] <kops_> 03.32.52: xine: couldn't find demux for >/home/kops/Desktop/High Octane 4 -GREENCOR.avi<
[03:33] <kops_> 03.32.52: xine: found input plugin : file input plugin
[03:33] <jeff_> okay. thanks.
[03:33] <intelikey> jeff_ if you want ?
[03:34] <jeff_> intelikey: yeah, that'd work great for the time being.
[03:34] <intelikey> k it will take a minute i need to do one other thing first.
[03:34] <Dragnslcr> kops_- missing decoder maybe? I'm not really sure
[03:34] <kops_> hmm i tryd in vlc buth its close direct
[03:34] <kops_> hmm
[03:34] <kops_> try another move then
[03:35] <intelikey> jeff_ can you pastebin the output of;   fdisk -l ;mount         for me so i'll know what other disks you have?
[03:37] <jeff_> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27082/
[03:38] <kops_> well i give up 4 the day god night all
[03:39] <semistud2354> is it possible to connect to other computers with ssh
[03:40] <semistud2354> across the internet
[03:40] <darkrift> yes
[03:40] <crocodile> how do I use the zooming of compiz?
[03:41] <semistud2354> how...fish://johnsmith@77.888.99.66
[03:41] <semistud2354> like that
[03:41] <semistud2354> ??
[03:41] <semistud2354> or do i need to add something
[03:42] <doneill> well, you could specify your password too
[03:43] <doneill> fish://john:foobar@1.2.3.4
[03:43] <doneill> but i don't think it's required
[03:43] <semistud2354> im trying to connect to my momz pc
[03:44] <semistud2354> fish://hername@herip
[03:44] <semistud2354> then it asks for pass
[03:44] <semistud2354> right
[03:44] <semistud2354> ??
[03:44] <semistud2354> it just says connecting for like ever
[03:44] <intelikey> ok jeff_smoke make a new text file (called USB_Disk maybe) on your desktop and paste this into it, then make it executable.   that should make it a point and click option.    you do need ntfs-3g installed for this to work.
[03:48] <intelikey> ok jeff_smoke make a new text file (called USB_Disk maybe) on your desktop and paste this into it, then make it executable.   that should make it a point and click option.    you do need ntfs-3g installed for this to work.
[03:49] <jeff_> this = ?
[03:49] <intelikey> jeff_ read it again.
[03:52] <intelikey> jeff_ put on the desktop   and see what it does.
[03:53] <darkrift> and paste this into it, <---- what is "this" ?
[03:55] <jeff_> intelikey: i opened it with konsole, and it shat itself. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27084/
[03:55] <jeff_> darkrift: he sent me a file.
[03:55] <darkrift> oh
[03:55] <darkrift> lol jeff_
[03:57] <intelikey> jeff_ i see no error there.   those are wacom errors.  that's caused by wacom devices listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:57] <intelikey> !wacom
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <jeff_> wacom devices? like that drawing art tablet thing?
[03:57] <intelikey> !169
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 169 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <intelikey> yes   and there is a infonode on that but i lost it.
[03:58] <jeff_> i don't have one of those.
[03:59] <semistud2354> man i dont know why its not working
[03:59] <intelikey> jeff_ you can search the ubuntu wiki for the info.    they setup wacom devices in all xorg.conf files so "if you did have one" it would work.
[03:59] <semistud2354> my mom gave me her ip
[03:59] <semistud2354> and i set up her comp
[03:59] <semistud2354> so i know her computer name
[03:59] <semistud2354> and her pass
[03:59] <semistud2354> but it still says no connection
[04:00] <jeff_> intelikey: that's the problem, though? i need to remove that from /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:00] <Dragnslcr> semistud2354- you're sure sshd is running?
[04:00] <semistud2354> the only time it worked is when i had her on the same network
[04:00] <intelikey> jeff_ the important thing is.   did the script unmount the drive ?   and clicking it again remount it ?
[04:00] <semistud2354> just ssh
[04:00] <semistud2354> do i need it on both
[04:00] <bryan> I have a external hdd that has pictures and videos that was saved using windows xp.  When I turn the drive on it sees the partisions I made to it but will not see the rest of the files. Infact it does not even show like a USB.  What can I do?
[04:00] <semistud2354> or can i just do it on mine
[04:00] <intelikey> jeff_ yeah if you don't want to see the error messages.  but please visit the wiki on that one. jeff_
[04:00] <Dragnslcr> semistud2354- no, you just need sshd running on the computer you're trying to connect to
[04:01] <semistud2354> o
[04:01] <semistud2354> damn...my momz computer illiterate
[04:01] <semistud2354> is there any setting up
[04:01] <Dragnslcr> semistud2354- there may also be a firewall blocking connections
[04:01] <semistud2354> can i connect thrue krdc
[04:02] <darkrift> ok, q: every time i run a gui app from console, i get this error (even in xchat using /exec) http://pastebin.ca/587762
[04:02] <Dragnslcr> semistud2354- the package that has sshd is openssh-server
[04:02] <semistud2354> so i would need sshd on my momz comp in order for me to connect to her desktop
[04:02] <semistud2354> and like move her mouse n stuff
[04:03] <semistud2354> right
[04:03] <intelikey> darkrift wacom
[04:03] <Dragnslcr> No, remote desktop would probably be VNC
[04:03] <jeff_> intelikey: negative. :(
[04:03] <Dragnslcr> Depending on what OS she's using
[04:03] <semistud2354> i just want to get something off of her comp
[04:03] <semistud2354> thats the main thing
[04:03] <intelikey> jeff_ you have ntfs-3g installed ?
[04:03] <semistud2354> so what do i need for that
[04:03] <semistud2354> just sshd
[04:04] <semistud2354> and thats all??
[04:04] <jeff_> according to adept.
[04:04] <Dragnslcr> Like I said, it depends on what operating system it is and what you need to do
[04:04] <bryan> can anyone help me?
[04:04] <semistud2354> hers and mine are both feisty
[04:04] <jeff_> intelikey: the ntfs-config package.
[04:04] <semistud2354> ok...so she gets sshd
[04:05] <dthacker> bryan: not until you ask your question.....
[04:05] <jeff_> intelikey: maybe a reinstall would help?
[04:05] <semistud2354> and thats it i connect get my files and thats it
[04:05] <Dragnslcr> Hers would need to be running sshd if you need shell access
[04:05] <intelikey> jeff_ you know you can't mount or umount an fs that something is accessing the mountpoint ?        and that's ntfs-3g
[04:05] <Dragnslcr> You should be able to copy files over ssh using scp
[04:05] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g
[04:05] <bryan> I did but I'll post it again
[04:05] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:05] <bryan> I have a external hdd that has pictures and videos that was saved using windows xp.  When I turn the drive on it sees the partisions I made to it but will not see the rest of the files. Infact it does not even show like a USB.  What can I do?
[04:05] <intelikey> !info ntfs-3g
[04:05] <ubotu> ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB
[04:05] <semistud2354> by running it do you mean she goes into adept types sshd and then i connect
[04:05] <semistud2354> ??
[04:06] <semistud2354> if she finds those files "pics" im screwed
[04:06] <Dragnslcr> semistud2354- the package is called openssh-server
[04:06] <semistud2354> ok...openssh
[04:06] <semistud2354> then it installs
[04:06] <semistud2354> i connect
[04:06] <Dragnslcr> It should start sshd when you install it
[04:06] <semistud2354> and get my pictures
[04:06] <Dragnslcr> netstat could tell you for sure
[04:07] <jeff_> intelikey: when i run the configuration tool, the drive isn't listed.
[04:07] <dthacker> bryan: sorry, I don't use Windows
[04:07] <bryan> i'll try it out. thanks guys
[04:08] <bryan> dthacker:  never?
[04:08] <dthacker> only at work, and then only because I have to use MS-Exchange through a terminal server.   I have a windows free house.
[04:09] <bryan> cool
[04:10] <intelikey> jeff_ you shouldn't need/want to run a comfiguration tool,    sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g                     humor me :)
[04:12] <jeff_> intelikey: 'ntfs-3g is already the newest version.'
[04:12] <intelikey> k
[04:12] <semistud2354> i just called
[04:12] <semistud2354> openssh is installed
[04:13] <intelikey> jeff_ and;  ls /media/usb_hd
[04:13] <intelikey> empty ?
[04:13] <semistud2354> so i was having those trobles
[04:13] <devnull> is there a config utility for compiz ?
[04:13] <semistud2354> and it was installed all along
[04:13] <jeff_> intelikey: no such file or directory.
[04:14] <semistud2354> whats the matter
[04:14] <intelikey> jeff_ and; run the script and try again   same message ?
[04:14] <semistud2354> i already had openssh-server installed
[04:14] <semistud2354> what command do i need to type to connect to my momz comp
[04:14] <semistud2354> is it still fish
[04:14] <semistud2354> ??
[04:15] <devnull> blah if anyone answered I missed it
[04:15] <jeff_> intelikey: same message. no drive.
[04:15] <Dragnslcr> semistud2354- open Konsole and type 'ssh a.b.c.d'
[04:15] <Dragnslcr> Obviously using a real IP address
[04:15] <semistud2354> ok
 intelikey: no such file or directory.  <<< not the same as >>>> <jeff_> intelikey: same message. no drive.       can you explain ?    what does; ls /media/usb_hd     say now ?
[04:16] <Dragnslcr> If it doesn't ask for a username and password, something is blocking the connection
[04:16] <jeff_> ls /media/usb_hd            returned no such file or directory
[04:16] <semistud2354> ok
[04:16] <semistud2354> now what
[04:16] <intelikey> hmmmm.
[04:16] <jeff_> while the shell script still returns the same error message that it did before.
[04:16] <Dragnslcr> Did it ask for a username and password?
[04:16] <semistud2354> no
[04:17] <Dragnslcr> Did the connection time out?
[04:17] <devnull> is there a compiz config utility?
[04:17] <semistud2354> no
[04:17] <semistud2354> i just sat there
[04:18] <semistud2354> nothing happend
[04:18] <semistud2354> she has openssh
[04:18] <semistud2354> i have it
[04:18] <semistud2354> we both have ssh
[04:18] <intelikey> jeff_ that's no possable if you are running the script i sent you.   unless your kdesu is borked.     in konsole; kdesu echo boo
[04:19] <darkrift> wow
[04:19] <darkrift> that didnt go as planned
[04:19] <intelikey> jeff_  kdesu echo boo ?
[04:19] <Dragnslcr> semistud2354- Check netstat -lt on her computer, make sure sshd is running
[04:19] <darkrift> i commented out the 3 sections for tablet only features
[04:19] <darkrift> then restarted x
[04:19] <jeff_> intelikey: boo was indeed echoed, but before it was, the same errors that i get with your shell script came up.
[04:20] <semistud2354> how do you make shure sshd is running
[04:20] <intelikey> darkrift you missed the referances in the server layout section
[04:20] <darkrift> it wouldnt load, so i looked at it again.... deleted the lines isntead of commenting... still wouldnt load so i looked harder... there was an init section at the bottom that still referenced those 3 devies :S
[04:20] <darkrift> yes
[04:20] <darkrift> lol
[04:20] <Dragnslcr> semistud2354- by seeing if anything is listening on port 22
[04:20] <darkrift> i HATE VIM
[04:20] <semistud2354> netstat
[04:20] <semistud2354> is that a websight
[04:21] <Dragnslcr> No, it's a command
[04:21] <darkrift> where can in find a command line editor that is somewhat easy to use like old school msdos's edit.com lol
[04:21] <darkrift> some things in dos were soo much easier
[04:21] <darkrift> idiotized
[04:21] <intelikey> jeff_ the error messages from wacom can be ignored.       how are you calling that script ?   desktop icon click to run ?    konsole  ./USB      how?
[04:22] <Dragnslcr> darkrift- nano is pretty simple
[04:22] <darkrift> thats prob what im used to from freebsd
[04:22] <darkrift> sounds familliar
[04:22] <Dragnslcr> darkrift- definitely easier to use than vi* or emacs
[04:22] <semistud2354> port 22
[04:22] <intelikey> darkrift but; "if you make it idiot proff, they'll just make a better idiot"   :)
[04:23] <semistud2354> it just gives a butt load of information
[04:23] <darkrift> LOL
[04:23] <darkrift> i want something that im used to, ctrl+f is file menu etc
[04:23] <semistud2354> maby im just typing it in wrong
[04:23] <darkrift> erm, alt-f
[04:23] <Dragnslcr> semistud2354- netstat -lt shouldn't list that many programs
[04:23] <dick-richardson> is plasma enabled in gutsy tribe 1?
[04:23] <darkrift> alt+x is quit (asks to save) blah blah
[04:23] <Dragnslcr> semistud2354- unless the computer is running 20 different servers
[04:23] <intelikey> darkrift pico
[04:23] <jeff_> intelikey: i added executable permissions and ran it in konsole.
[04:23] <Jucato> dick-richardson: KDE 4 won't be default in gutsy
[04:23] <semistud2354> no
[04:23] <darkrift> pico is nano, isnt it?
[04:24] <semistud2354> i just installed ssh
[04:24] <semistud2354> and just now openssh
[04:24] <semistud2354> and still nothing
[04:24] <Dragnslcr> darkrift- the commands are different, but nano should work for you
[04:24] <darkrift> i c
[04:24] <Dragnslcr> darkrift- and yeah, nano is the successor to pico
[04:24] <intelikey> jeff_ these are the first two lines in that script.   Q="/media/usb_hd"
[04:24] <intelikey> [ ! -d $Q ]  && kdesu mkdir -p $Q
[04:24] <semistud2354> i type fish://johnsmithdestop@22.111.33.44:0
[04:24] <semistud2354> sould it look like that
[04:24] <semistud2354> ???
[04:25] <Dragnslcr> semistud2354- I have no idea. I've never seen fish:// before
[04:25] <semistud2354> o...
[04:25] <semistud2354> what do you use
[04:25] <Dragnslcr> I just use ssh for shell and scp for file transfer
[04:25] <darkrift> also on boot, i got somethign that said sda3 had been mounted 28 times, forcing disk check..... i have no idea what sda3 is, its not in my /media folder
[04:25] <semistud2354> i type that in the address bar of konqueror
[04:25] <darkrift> where could i find that out at?
[04:25] <intelikey> and there is no way to execute that without it leaving a dir in /media/  unless you have something mounted on /media itself readonly.  and it should be umounted by the next line.  so running the command again will make the dir anyway.
[04:25] <darkrift> oh
[04:26] <darkrift> nvm
[04:26] <Dragnslcr> darkrift- sda is probably your first SATA disk
[04:26] <darkrift> i think its my linux part
[04:26] <darkrift> sda1 and 2 are my ntfs partitiions on my laptop
[04:26] <darkrift> no sata that i know of :s
[04:26] <darkrift> unless this lappy has sata and i didnt know it
[04:26] <Dragnslcr> Quite possible
[04:27] <Dragnslcr> Most new laptops use SATA drives
[04:27] <darkrift> really
[04:27] <darkrift> i hadnt heard that
[04:27] <darkrift> i bought it for the screen :) lol
[04:27] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[04:27] <darkrift> shiny and widescreen :)
[04:27] <Dragnslcr> My 20" 1600x1200 LCD is better than a laptop
[04:27] <darkrift> vista looked nice too... buy was i tricked
[04:27] <darkrift> buy = boy*
[04:28] <intelikey> jeff_ i may not be very smart. but i know that script should work.   it's too simple not to.    if it wont work for you.   delete it and say "oh well"     hey man i tried.
[04:28] <darkrift> lets see you walk around your house with yours on though :)
[04:28] <Dragnslcr> Heh, I don't
[04:28] <jeff_> intelikey: :(
[04:28] <darkrift> i dont either
[04:28] <darkrift> but i could :)
[04:29] <andrew__> hey
[04:29] <Dragnslcr> I don't need my computer in my bed or in front of my television, and that's all I have for rooms in my apartment
[04:29] <darkrift> ho
[04:29] <bryan> I still have the issue of not seing the external drive but I can see the partisions on dev/disk/
[04:29] <darkrift> i need to take my old laptop apart and resoldier the power connector
[04:29] <darkrift> thats all thats wrong with it
[04:29] <intelikey> jeff_ i mean i write crap like this   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37663     so that script should work.  i'm not trying to be mean.  just  don't know what else to say.
[04:30] <semistud2354> god dammit i need to get those pictures
[04:30] <semistud2354> freakin ssh and openssh isnt alowing me to connect
[04:30] <Dragnslcr> semistud2354- sure there isn't a firewall blocking port 22?
[04:30] <semistud2354> i didnt put one up
[04:31] <semistud2354> does it come installed by default
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, do you use a router?
[04:31] <Dragnslcr> I don't believe so
[04:31] <semistud2354> no dsl
[04:31] <intelikey> semistud2354 sshd running on the host ?    port 22 open ?
[04:31] <semistud2354> my computer is running on a router
[04:31] <semistud2354> not hers
[04:32] <jeff_> yeah, something in my install is probably fucked. ;\
[04:32] <jeff_> oh well.
[04:32] <jeff_> thanks anyway.
[04:32] <darkrift> intelikey, no offense, but i couldnt even understand that poem you pasted ;)
[04:32] <intelikey> jeff_ sorry it didn't work out better for you.  maybe next time.
[04:32] <intelikey> darkrift opem  lol
[04:32] <intelikey> poem even
[04:33] <darkrift> something about an arguement and answers
[04:33] <semistud2354> how do you turn off a firewall
[04:33] <semistud2354> in kubuntu
[04:33] <darkrift> good evening al
[04:33] <darkrift> all*
[04:33] <semistud2354> i didnt even know there was s firewall
[04:33] <intelikey> darkrift gooday
[04:34] <hitmanWilly> !firewall
[04:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:34] <intelikey> semistud2354 if you didn't turn one on, there isn't one.
[04:34] <tucci> i just reinstalled kubuntu, added some programs, now I can't open adept or the update installer because it says another program is using the packaging system database
[04:34] <intelikey> semistud2354 iptables -L
[04:34] <tucci> I don't see any processes open in kysysguard
[04:35] <semistud2354> ok whats that do
[04:35] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | tucci
[04:35] <ubotu> tucci: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:35] <semistud2354> all it says is accept
[04:35] <semistud2354> iput out put policy
[04:35] <intelikey> semistud2354 should list the firewall(iptables) rules
[04:35] <semistud2354> no nothing
[04:35] <intelikey> then no firewall
[04:35] <intelikey> :)
[04:36] <semistud2354> i need to ge those pics...im freakin out
[04:36] <dthacker> semistud: can you ping her computer?
[04:36] <semistud2354> how
[04:36] <intelikey> ping
[04:36] <semistud2354> ping111.111.111.1
[04:36] <semistud2354> like that
[04:36] <intelikey> ping 111.111.111.1     if that's the ip
[04:36] <tucci> thanks intellikey
[04:36] <intelikey> tucci np
[04:37] <Dr_willis> ping 127.0.0.1 is faster :)
[04:37] <semistud2354>  i got info comming back
[04:37] <abrahao> how install universe in livecd?
[04:37] <athena> lol
[04:37] <semistud2354> ok so
[04:37] <semistud2354> good
[04:37] <semistud2354> now what
[04:38] <athena> quick question - everyone keeps talking about "how do I play DVDs" and the answer is always "use the libdvdcss2 crack". But is there a way to *encrypt* DVDs using CSS?
[04:38] <dthacker> semistud2354: first, make sure your computer can see hers with ping.  Next, make sure sshd is running on her machine, Third. ssh over and get your errr,umm "contraband"
[04:38] <semistud2354> how do i ssh over
[04:38] <hitmanWilly> athena, why would you want to?
[04:38] <dthacker> ssh "mom"s ip address"
[04:38] <athena> hitmanWilly, for kicks
[04:38] <intelikey> abrahao konsole sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list       add universe to the end of the first  deb* line   save and exit   sudo apt-get update
[04:38] <semistud2354> in conquero
[04:38] <hitmanWilly> athena, not that i know of
[04:38] <semistud2354> konqueror
[04:39] <semistud2354> or konsole
[04:39] <dthacker> semistud2354: konsole
[04:39] <athena> hitmanWilly, that's no fun :-(
[04:39] <athena> maybe I ought to write my own
[04:39] <dick-richardso1> is there a setting in kubuntu to enable desktop effects?
[04:39] <Dr_willis> i recall some discussion about - what if a virus writer enccrypted his virus with the dcss encryption... would it be against the DMCA to decode it. :)
[04:39] <athena> dick-richardso1, yes, go to autostart and add "compiz" to it
[04:40] <dick-richardso1> athena: easy enough. thank you :)
[04:40] <intelikey> Dr_willis lol
[04:40] <semistud2354> do i type in the name of her computer
[04:40] <intelikey> ye ha
[04:40] <semistud2354> momzdesktop
[04:40] <semistud2354> or just mom
[04:40] <athena> Dr_willis, the answer is yes, but since the virus is illegal to distribute it's not terribly relevant.
[04:40] <bryan> Now I get the error hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[04:40] <semistud2354> as her login name
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> athena, go for it, but its kinda against my anti-drm policy
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> :P
[04:40] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_willis, what's up? :3
[04:40] <athena> :-P
[04:41] <intelikey> DRM = eval
[04:41] <hitmanWilly> athena, i doubt it
[04:41] <dthacker> semistud2354: ssh will try to login as you.  do you have an account on mom's pc?
[04:41] <semistud2354> no
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[04:41] <hitmanWilly> kinda against the ubuntu policies as well
[04:41] <athena> "libcss - a portable layer for encryption using the well proven CSS algorithm" - I'd just love to see that in apt-cache..
[04:41] <Dr_willis> ssh -L whoever
[04:41] <Minataku> Under the DMCA, isn't ANY encryption routine illegal to break?
[04:41] <intelikey> abrahao welcome
[04:41] <athena> hitmanWilly, why? we have gpg, how's it any different?
[04:41] <semistud2354> so wats the format ssh mom:password@11.222.33.44
[04:42] <semistud2354> like that
[04:42] <dthacker> semistud2354: then so ssh -l "mom's login" "mom's ip address" and put in her password when prompted
[04:42] <Minataku> If I wrote a poem and encrypted it with ROT13, I could sue the crap out of anyone who decrypted it
[04:42] <hitmanWilly> athena, gpg is for personal files, and technically libdvdcss is illegal in the states, plus anybody with a dvd player could view it
[04:42] <Minataku> Which, of course, is another large part of why the DMCA is a complete and utter piece of ****ing ****
[04:43] <kalorin> !ati
[04:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:43] <athena> well, libdvdcss is illegal since it lets you break DRM, but how would *libcss* which *makes DRM* be illegal?
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, you could even technically use a simple alphanumeric cypher key
[04:43] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: That's all ROT13 is
[04:43] <Minataku> "Rotate 13 letters"
[04:44] <semistud2354> so its <so ssh -l "mom" "1122233344"
[04:44] <semistud2354> its not working
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, yeah, im not to up on cryptography...:P
[04:44] <dthacker> don't ust the quotes
[04:44] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: Heehee
[04:44] <Minataku> ROT13 is barely qualifiable as encryption, really
[04:44] <dthacker> ssh -l momloginname  192.168.1.5
[04:44] <Minataku> It's encryption by the definition of the word only
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, especially the arcane/crap stuff...
[04:45] <Minataku> Effectiveness is zero
[04:45] <Minataku> Well, 0.01
[04:45] <Minataku> Since it DOES make it impossible to read at first to most
[04:45] <dthacker> semistud2354: that's a -l as in leave off using moms pc for pictures of naughty bits
[04:45] <Minataku> But it's also fairly easy to spot
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, just rotate back 13, and there ya go
[04:45] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: Bingo
[04:46] <semistud2354> i had to transfer files
[04:46] <semistud2354> i upgraded to feist
[04:46] <Minataku> I have a personal OTP encryption system
[04:46] <semistud2354> so i used her comp
[04:46] <semistud2354> lol
[04:46] <Minataku> OTP being One Time Pad
[04:46] <semistud2354> but i forgot they were in there
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, that's spy stuff there :P
[04:46] <Minataku> Heehee
[04:46] <devnull> hehe Beryl = fun
[04:46] <semistud2354> its not workin
[04:46] <Minataku> Again, more or less trivial, but I've beefed it up from my original design
[04:47] <dthacker> semistud2354: what happens?
[04:47] <Minataku> Redundancy, randomization
[04:47] <semistud2354> i type ssh -l mom 192.168.2.3
[04:47] <semistud2354> it just sits there
[04:47] <intelikey> semistud2354 let me guess,  she's gonna freek when she finds them ?
[04:47] <Minataku> I've also thought of cyclic keys
[04:47] <semistud2354> im still getting a ping
[04:47] <semistud2354> umm...
[04:47] <Minataku> With an OTP-based key ID
[04:47] <semistud2354> there pics of me and the gf
[04:47] <semistud2354> yea
[04:47] <semistud2354> lol
[04:47] <dthacker> too much information
[04:47] <Minataku> Not enough info
[04:48] <semistud2354> man...
[04:48] <intelikey> it didn't take a genious to figure that one out...
[04:48] <dthacker> semistud2354: can you log in to her pc and verify tthat sshd is running?
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, why not just use one-way algorithims?
[04:48] <semistud2354> how do i do that
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, ie gpg and such?
[04:48] <semistud2354> i would remote controll her desktop...but kdrc isnt letting me
[04:48] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: Well, when you're encrypting large amounts of data for surreptitious relay
[04:48] <intelikey> semistud2354 walk up to her box and rm them ?
[04:48] <dthacker> can you physically get on the machine, open konsole, and do ps -ef | grep sshd
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, ah, i can see that...
[04:48] <fitoria> hola
[04:48] <semistud2354> well...shes on her comp now
[04:49] <semistud2354> and im at my house...
[04:49] <semistud2354> about 2 days away
[04:49] <semistud2354> vacation
[04:49] <Minataku> semistud2354: Well, she's gonna get a nice show, isn't she
[04:49] <Minataku> >.<
[04:49] <intelikey> well if you can't ssh in you are sol
[04:49] <Minataku> You can call her up and tell her not to use the computer
[04:49] <dthacker> semistud2354: you could tell her they were for art class.
[04:50] <intelikey> enjoy the ride kid.   reaping what ya sow isn't always fun but it always seems to work.
[04:50] <Minataku> Tell her you wanted to get that $500 from Hustler
[04:50] <semistud2354> not really
[04:50] <semistud2354> do i type mom or mom desktop
[04:50] <semistud2354> she has like a network name
[04:50] <crocodile> testing 123
[04:51] <|crocodile|> testing 123
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> crocodile, 456
[04:51] <dthacker> i saw a crocodile
[04:51] <intelikey> semistud2354 no.  you type here user login name.
[04:51] <crocodile> hehe  it works :)
[04:51] <intelikey> s/here/her/
[04:51] <abrahao> I made several atualization in this livecd, is there a way to save it to use again?
[04:52] <crocodile> didn't think I would say this, but I actually like konversation over kvirc and xchat
[04:52] <semistud2354> ssh -l mom 22.111.33.44
[04:52] <semistud2354> like that
[04:52] <intelikey> if mom is how she logs in
[04:52] <dthacker> semistud2354: yes, and if sshd is running, you should get a password prompt.
[04:53] <semistud2354> sshd...
[04:53] <semistud2354> i dont see that on adept
[04:53] <semistud2354> how do you get that
[04:53] <semistud2354> or turn it on
[04:53] <Dr_willis> !info ssh
[04:53] <intelikey> on her computer
[04:53] <ubotu> ssh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[04:53] <dthacker> semistud2354: and if not, you're borked.
[04:53] <intelikey> semistud2354 if her computer is not running sshd    hehhe.  to bad.
[04:54] <semistud2354> how do you make it run sshd
[04:54] <semistud2354> where do i get it from
[04:54] <semistud2354> how do i turn it on
[04:54] <intelikey> :)
[04:54] <intelikey> not likely
[04:54] <Minataku> Could always try to DoS her
[04:54] <Minataku> <.<
[04:54] <intelikey> which would gain nothing..
[04:55] <semistud2354> how do you get sshd
[04:55] <Minataku> If it slows the computer down
[04:55] <Minataku> Or crashes it
[04:55] <semistud2354> im still getting a pin from her ip
[04:55] <Minataku> It gains a lot
[04:55] <semistud2354> ping*
[04:55] <ben_> pong
[04:55] <julius> ong?
[04:55] <julius> pong?*
[04:55] <intelikey> that'll run up a log file size....
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, so ssh <her_ip> returns an error?
[04:56] <semistud2354> it just sits there
[04:56] <semistud2354> does nothing
[04:56] <semistud2354> no error
[04:56] <Minataku> Hm
[04:56] <semistud2354> but ping is still pinging
[04:57] <dthacker> I vote no sshd.
[04:57] <Minataku> No
[04:57] <Minataku> No sshd would return "Connection refused"
[04:57] <Minataku> ed@Piyoko /ext/C/Torrent Temporary/Di_Gi_Charat_PARTYNIGHT_CD_Single $ ssh ed@127.0.0.1
[04:57] <Minataku> ssh: connect to host 127.0.0.1 port 22: Connection refused
[04:58] <dthacker> Minataku: ah, good point.  I forgot.
[04:58] <semistud2354> it said that
[04:58] <[Relic] > Hello :)
[04:58] <Minataku> Try "ssh -l mom ipaddress"
[04:58] <intelikey> dthacker i'm with you.  he didn't set it up on her box so it's not there
[04:58] <Dr_willis> unless thers a router/firewall - i think
[04:58] <Minataku> semistud2354: It DID?
[04:58] <Minataku> Okay
[04:58] <semistud2354> on one of the things
[04:58] <Minataku> Then yeah, you're up sh*t creek if it returned connection refused
[04:58] <semistud2354> yea i tryed mom desktop ip
[04:58] <semistud2354> and mom ip
[04:58] <Minataku> semistud2354: Did you use the -l ?
[04:58] <semistud2354> mom:pass ip
[04:58] <Dr_willis> you sure its her ip?
[04:58] <semistud2354> L
[04:58] <Minataku> -l is for login name
[04:58] <dthacker> most other "hanging" problems I've seen are DNS related
[04:58] <semistud2354> as in lisa
[04:58] <Minataku> semistud2354: Small l
[04:58] <semistud2354> or imp
[04:59] <Minataku> Lowercase l, not upper
[04:59] <ben_> !qt4
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qt4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <Minataku>  [-l login_name] 
[04:59] <semistud2354> o my bad
[04:59] <intelikey> IlIlI
[04:59] <semistud2354> it said connection timed out
[04:59] <Minataku> Hm
[04:59] <semistud2354> not connection refused
[04:59] <Minataku> Do you have a routeR?
[04:59] <Minataku> *she
[04:59] <semistud2354> i tured of dchp
[04:59] <semistud2354> off
[04:59] <Minataku> If so, it may be filtering the ports
[05:00] <semistud2354> hmm
[05:00] <Minataku> Ah, yeah, it'd need to be forwarded
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> most do by default
[05:00] <Minataku> Even if she has sshd, you're blocked
[05:00] <semistud2354> ok soooo
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> that's all i use for a firewall, btw
[05:00] <semistud2354> i tured off dchp
[05:00] <semistud2354> or on
[05:01] <[Relic] > is there a site that list tv tuner cards that work with kubuntu by product name?
[05:01] <semistud2354> the one that you plug in to the regular ports
[05:01] <[Relic] > or should I just grab a hauppage and be done with it  :)
[05:02] <intelikey> !hardware
[05:02] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:02] <semistud2354> i have dchp turend off
[05:02] <dthacker> Relic: guys in my lug say go huappage FWIW
[05:02] <semistud2354> so i dont think it will alow me to connect to it
[05:02] <semistud2354> unless i reset it
[05:02] <Minataku> DHCP has nothing to do with it anyway
[05:02] <Minataku> You need to forward port 22 to the machine with sshd
[05:03] <Minataku> A static IP will help in that
[05:03] <dthacker> semistud2354: how did you move the files *to* the mom pc?
[05:03] <Minataku> But if it's temporary, it probably wouldn't matter anyway
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, most routers are set up with a hw firewall that blocks incoming connection attempts unless the ports are explicitly forwarded to a certain machine
[05:03] <semistud2354> yea
[05:03] <draik> Minataku: http://www.portforward.com
[05:03] <semistud2354> but i was onher network
[05:03] <semistud2354> wireless
[05:03] <semistud2354> so it seemed to connect
[05:03] <intelikey> Minataku you do realize that you are wasting your breath there.  he is remote form the box that he would have to admin....
[05:04] <semistud2354> but i took the router with me
[05:04] <semistud2354> so now she is connected to a modem
[05:04] <semistud2354> dsl modem
[05:04] <semistud2354> i have a router
[05:04] <draik> semistud2354: What are you trying to do?
[05:04] <Darlid01> Can I ask an incredibly noobish question?
[05:04] <draik> hitmanWilly: I do ssh every once in a while.
[05:05] <osiris> Darlid01, dont ask to ask
[05:05] <[Relic] > Thanks  :)
[05:05] <semistud2354> when i check my ip
[05:05] <Dr_willis> Darlid01,  you just did. :)
[05:05] <draik> !ask | Darlid01
[05:05] <ubotu> Darlid01: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:05] <semistud2354> i get like
[05:05] <semistud2354> 72.333.66.99
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> Darlid01, you're in the right place for those :)
[05:05] <semistud2354> not 192.168
[05:05] <draik> DDoS'ers, start your systems....
[05:05] <osiris> wow.  networking 101. this should take a week
[05:05] <dthacker> semistud2354: 192.168 was an example...
[05:05] <Darlid01> Fair enough, I have a nc6000 I'm trying to put kubuntu on. I used to have Gentoo, but kubuntu is giving me a i/o error on the CD
[05:06] <Dr_willis> Sounds like a badly burnt cd, or bad iso download
[05:06] <Darlid01> The CD is fine, the drive is fine, it's probably missing a driver
[05:06] <osiris> did you md5sum the disk ?
[05:06] <dthacker> Darlid01: ^^^
[05:06] <Darlid01> Yep, I checked it twice and redownlaoded to be sure
[05:06] <semistud2354> usually when your behind a network  thats the kind of ip you would get
[05:06] <semistud2354> but i have dchp turend off
[05:06] <semistud2354> or on
[05:07] <semistud2354> the one where i have to plug the internet connection into the regular ports
[05:07] <Schuenemann> hey, how can I know if the programs on add/remove are the latest releases?
[05:07] <Darlid01> Is there an alternative install method other that the graphical interfave?
[05:07] <Dr_willis> They are the latest thats in theubuntu repositories.
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> Darlid01, alternate-cd
[05:07] <Schuenemann> humm
[05:08] <Dr_willis> Doubtfull if they are the latest that exist.. but in 6 mo - they all get updated. :) thats how ubuntu releases work.
[05:08] <dthacker> Darlid01: theres and alternative install CD
[05:08] <osiris> Darlid01, alternate-cd like the others said
[05:08] <Schuenemann> Dr_willis: can't I see the version before installing?
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> Darlid01, its an old school ncurses iface installer with a LOT more options
[05:08] <Darlid01> I suppose I'll try that then. I'll lag on here while I try it.
[05:08] <osiris> or ubuntu-server
[05:09] <semistud2354> if its still pinging my momz ip address
[05:09] <semistud2354> that means she's still online??
[05:09] <Minataku> No
[05:09] <Minataku> It means the router is still online
[05:09] <Darlid01> I was partially curious if there was anyone who had tried putting kubuntu on a nc6000 and if there was any documented errors I should be aware of
[05:09] <Minataku> You're not pinging her IP
[05:09] <Darlid01> Or more accurately where to look for that type of documentation
[05:09] <Minataku> You're pinging the IP of your internet connection
[05:09] <Dr_willis> Schuenemann,  use the full package manager.   it shows the verison #'s
[05:09] <semistud2354> she doesnt have a routher
[05:09] <Minataku> ...
[05:09] <Minataku> You said she did
[05:09] <Schuenemann> Dr_willis: what's that?
[05:10] <osiris> Darlid01, what exactly IS a dc6000
[05:10] <semistud2354> no
[05:10] <semistud2354> i have a router
[05:10] <Dr_willis> !adept
[05:10] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:10] <osiris> or whatever
[05:10] <draik> Minataku: No, he's got a router, not his mom
[05:10] <Minataku> I'm sorry, but this technically isn't even Kubuntu-related
[05:10] <Dr_willis> !synaptic
[05:10] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[05:10] <Darlid01> Sorry NC6000 not a dc6000
[05:10] <Schuenemann> but that is adept
[05:10] <Darlid01> It's a HP laptop
[05:10] <osiris> whatever
[05:10] <semistud2354> she has dsl
[05:10] <Minataku> DSL is always-on
[05:10] <osiris> the netoworking 101 should go someplace
[05:10] <draik> semistud2354: her connections doesn't really matter
[05:10] <draik> semistud2354: point is that you need to get in there and you can't
[05:10] <semistud2354> so she could technacilly be off right now
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> Darlid01, hm, not sure about that one, works flawlessly on my dv8000
[05:11] <Minataku> semistud2354: You're just going to have to wait and find out
[05:11] <semistud2354> i thought ping ip would see if she's still online
[05:11] <Darlid01> Good to know. I've got a friend who is trying an install on that next week
[05:11] <Darlid01> We both just switched from Gentoo
[05:11] <Minataku> Darlid01: Bad choice
[05:11] <dthacker> Darlid01: do you have another PC you try and boot from that CD
[05:11] <osiris> Darlid01, welcome to having freetime
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> Darlid01, i still use gentoo on the desktop
[05:11] <Schuenemann> wooooooooot feisty has filezilla!
[05:11] <Minataku> Why you'd want to take 5 steps back is beyond me
[05:11] <Darlid01> Yes, I can boot from my desktop fine
[05:11] <ManiDhillon> WINE log me out whenever i try to run it.
[05:12] <Dr_willis> No more meditating on gcc output...
[05:12] <semistud2354> is there anyway to findout if her computer is on
[05:12] <semistud2354> with out calling her
[05:12] <dthacker> No more "I survived a Stage 1 install" t-shirts
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> Darlid01, also, the wifi works out of the box on a dv8000, one less headache to deal with
[05:12] <draik> semistud2354: with DSL/Cable, the IPs can change. For all you know, you can be pinging her neighbor
[05:13] <semistud2354> so i have to constantly be checking her computer
[05:13] <semistud2354> 's ip
[05:13] <semistud2354> to see if its still the same
[05:13] <osiris> more or less.  or give it a dyneDNS address
[05:13] <Darlid01> semistud2354, you could get her set on a static IP, but that costs money.
[05:13] <osiris> and set the router to update it
[05:13] <Minataku> Sorry, I'm going to step out
[05:13] <klobster> I can't seem to resize an ext3 partition with qtparted on the fiesty livecd
[05:14] <Dr_willis> klobster,  shrinking it?
[05:14] <osiris> klobster, is there an error message ?
[05:14] <Darlid01> Or you could script a logon that pings you, that'd give you her IP
[05:14] <semistud2354> how do you do that
[05:14] <klobster> no msg, the option is greyed out
[05:14] <Darlid01> But, I have my own issue to deal with. Be back later...
[05:15] <semistud2354> DAMMIT!!!
[05:16] <Minataku> Sorry also, I'm not a fan of *buntu's simplicity
[05:16] <Minataku> I much prefer doing things the TRULY easy way
[05:16] <Minataku> hitmanWilly knows where I'm coming from there :D
[05:16] <Dr_willis> Yadda yadda yadda. :)
[05:16] <klobster> semistud; do you know bash scripting?
[05:16] <Minataku> As a fellow Gentoo user
[05:16] <Minataku> Dr_willis: lol
[05:16] <semistud2354> no...
[05:16] <crimsun> "easy" is subjective to the user.
[05:16] <semistud2354> its like programing right??
[05:16] <Darlid01|lagging> I like Gentoo, but I got tired of recompiling
[05:16] <Dr_willis> Im using LinuxMint at the moment.. :) its got some nifty features that i hope make it into Ubuntu/Kubuntu some day
[05:17] <Darlid01|lagging> Quit making me play! I need to work!
[05:17] <Darlid01|lagging> Translation: THis is an interesting conversation, but I need to work on hte laptop
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, it'd involve scripting something on her machine that would ping you, hence giving you the incoming ip address in your log files
[05:17] <klobster> !pastebin | klobster
[05:18] <semistud2354> o
[05:18] <semistud2354> its too late now
[05:18] <semistud2354> i just dont want those pics...
[05:18] <klobster> semistud2354: what is your IP? is it static?
[05:18] <semistud2354> shes "looking on her computer for music"
[05:18] <semistud2354> i dunno
[05:18] <semistud2354> proll not
[05:18] <semistud2354> whats static
[05:18] <semistud2354> permanent??
[05:19] <semistud2354> where it doesnt change
[05:19] <klobster> uhh, me thinks i assume to much sometimes
[05:19] <klobster> yeah, permanent.
[05:19] <klobster> man ping
[05:20] <semistud2354> ok...so what do you need to connect to a computer remotely....
[05:20] <semistud2354> openssh
[05:20] <semistud2354> ssh
[05:20] <semistud2354> right
[05:20] <semistud2354> then
[05:20] <Dr_willis> !enter
[05:20] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:20] <semistud2354> ssh -l mom her ip
[05:21] <semistud2354> is that the just of it
[05:21] <Dr_willis> thats the geist of it.
[05:21] <semistud2354> she prolly shut down her computer
[05:21] <semistud2354> i tryed using fish
[05:21] <semistud2354> that didnt work
[05:21] <semistud2354> in konqueror
[05:21] <klobster> or use krdc
[05:21] <semistud2354> i did
[05:22] <semistud2354> but that didnt work either
[05:22] <crocodile> test
[05:22] <semistud2354> wait
[05:22] <semistud2354> krdc
[05:22] <klobster> semistud: porque?
[05:22] <semistud2354> how do you do that
[05:22] <semistud2354> dont you need like permisssion
[05:22] <semistud2354> from the other persion
[05:23] <klobster> yeah, it's pretty self explanatory...
[05:23] <semistud2354> how do you connect
[05:23] <semistud2354> just mom 11.222.333.44
[05:23] <abrahao> I made some updates in the live cd the I'm running now, and I want to save it, how?
[05:23] <semistud2354> or is there like
[05:23] <semistud2354> fish
[05:23] <klobster> tell her to open internet/krfb
[05:23] <semistud2354> or vnc//
[05:23] <klobster> and invite via email
[05:23] <semistud2354> i told her to do that
[05:23] <semistud2354> o
[05:24] <semistud2354> i didnt do that
[05:24] <klobster> then you don't need to teach her anything
[05:24] <semistud2354> it sends you an email wiher her info
[05:24] <klobster> yup
[05:24] <semistud2354> she told it to me on the phone...
[05:24] <semistud2354> it was a 168 type of ip
[05:24] <semistud2354> 192.168
[05:25] <klobster> provideed her mail program is set up correct, else she will have to cut and paste the message to wherever she sends her mail.
[05:25] <semistud2354> so i told her to go on whats my ip
[05:25] <draik> semistud2354: "Mom, there are some things on your computer that shouldn't be there. I was being childish and need to take it out of there before you get mad. Please don't use your computer until I get there."
[05:25] <semistud2354> and it have an ip thats like 77.143.44.55
[05:25] <semistud2354> yea
[05:25] <semistud2354> i should
[05:25] <semistud2354> lol
[05:26] <semistud2354> which one do i use
[05:26] <semistud2354> the one that her krdc program gave o
[05:26] <semistud2354> or the whats my ip
[05:26] <intelikey> truth is not the best policy,  it's the only policy.   use it.
[05:26] <klobster> am i really helping a teen delete pr0n from his moms computer?
[05:26] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, the 192....is the local network address
[05:26] <intelikey> klobster yep
[05:26] <draik> klobster: seems that way
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, you need the other one
[05:27] <semistud2354> yea...
[05:27] <semistud2354> so i told her to go on whats my ip
[05:27] <semistud2354> and it gave her like
[05:27] <semistud2354> 77.983.22.33
[05:27] <semistud2354> like that
[05:27] <semistud2354> and i used that
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, ssh <whats_my_ip_address>
[05:28] <semistud2354> i did that
[05:28] <klobster> semistud (how apt a handle): just use the invite by email, if her email program is not configured, she can cut and paste the msg to hotmail, or whatever she uses.
[05:28] <klobster> semistud
[05:28] <draik> semistud2354: ssh <username>@<her.external.ip.address>
[05:28] <intelikey> hitmanWilly i really don't think that sshd is even on her box      (but i've been wrong before)
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, im starting to think that as well
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> in which case semistud2354 is borked :)
[05:29] <Schuenemann> !pr0n
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr0n - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <semistud2354> yea
[05:29] <draik> LOL
[05:29] <semistud2354> im boned
[05:30] <Schuenemann> klobster, what's that?
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> !bork
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <semistud2354> how do i get sshd
[05:30] <semistud2354> or turn it on
[05:30] <semistud2354> her box
[05:30] <klobster> semistud2354: is she on a wireless network?
[05:30] <draik> !ssg
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ssg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <draik> !ssh
[05:30] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:30] <semistud2354> no i am
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, she'd have to do it from her box
[05:30] <semistud2354> shes on dsl
[05:30] <semistud2354> how
[05:30] <semistud2354> how do you do it
[05:30] <intelikey> install ssh
[05:31] <semistud2354> i did that
[05:31] <semistud2354> and openssh
[05:31] <klobster> Schuenemann: what is what?
[05:31] <semistud2354> she told me
[05:31] <semistud2354> i made her loo
[05:31] <semistud2354> look
[05:31] <Schuenemann> klobster, pr0n
[05:31] <draik> semistud2354: it doesn't matter if she's on a freaking telegraphy sending moorse-coded modem handshakes
[05:31] <semistud2354> huh
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> Schuenemann, google it and see what comes up :P
[05:32] <klobster> Schuenemann: it's the reason teens lie to their parents
[05:32] <Schuenemann> heh I'll check it out
[05:32] <draik> klobster: That's just mean... >:)
[05:32] <sebastian> whats time is in there ?
[05:32] <intelikey> one reason
[05:32] <semistud2354> its prolly something sick like tub girl
[05:32] <Schuenemann> but why is that on his mom's computer and not on his?
[05:33] <klobster> semistud2354: it's your computer, you would know ;)
[05:33] <crocodile> can someone say my nick in chat in 10 seconds please?
[05:33] <keisangi> hi there
[05:33] <Schuenemann> crocodile, crocodile
[05:33] <semistud2354> lemme get this straight...by installing ssh..ive installed sshd
[05:33] <keisangi> is there's a way to hide Kate's sidebar by default ?
[05:33] <sebastian> klobster
[05:33] <semistud2354> ssh is sshd
[05:33] <crocodile> Schuenemann - thanks it worked... 80% :x
[05:33] <draik> LOL @ klobster
[05:34] <semistud2354> thats the impression im getting
[05:34] <sebastian> klobster
[05:34] <sebastian> work?
[05:34] <klobster> sebastion: yes
[05:34] <keisangi> menu > windows > tool views > hide sidebar     ... by default ..
[05:34] <Schuenemann> this channel is funny sometimes
[05:34] <zblach> anyone here have trouble with cups not responding?
[05:34] <draik> zblach: Sorry, I'm using dishes
[05:34] <semistud2354> is that right
[05:34] <Dr_willis> zblach,  not that ive seen. Or even heard mentioned
[05:35] <intelikey> semistud2354 "<semistud2354> lemme get this straight...by installing ssh..ive installed sshd" <<< yes.  but that doesn't help you any.  sshd has to be installed and running on the "host" end before you can connect.
[05:35] <semistud2354> how does it run
[05:35] <semistud2354> on the host
[05:35] <draik> semistud2354: with all nodes
[05:35] <draik> semistud2354: How does any other app run?
[05:35] <klobster> zblach: it's usually printer specific, google for your printer, or give more detail.  try #debian as well
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, once its installed, its usually set up as a boot time daemon
[05:35] <intelikey> semistud2354 ok that's enough.    we were amused for the first hour,   now it's time to move on.
[05:36] <zblach> klobster: it's not an issue with the printer. cupsd seems to run okay, but pointing konq. to localhost:631 does nothing
[05:36] <semistud2354> so it starts automatically
[05:36] <semistud2354> is that what your sayin
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, usually, if its installed
[05:37] <semistud2354> so...the reason that its not connecting is because she must have turned off her pc
[05:37] <TrueFX> hi guys
[05:37] <TrueFX> ive got a problem
[05:37] <ben_> i'm listening...
[05:37] <TrueFX> ive 2 sound card on of which is sound blaster Live
[05:37] <TrueFX> and the second one is onboard card
[05:38] <TrueFX> but whenever i restart i choses card randomly
[05:38] <TrueFX> at least that's what it seams too me
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, no, it probably means she doesn't have sshd installed
[05:38] <klobster> zblach: are you typing localhost, or your actual ip?
[05:38] <semistud2354> i personally installed ssh
[05:38] <TrueFX> when i plug sound cable into different sound card i can listen music
[05:38] <zblach> localhost or 127.0.0.1
[05:38] <semistud2354> so i can put the "stuff" on her comp
[05:38] <semistud2354> so i can upgrade to feisty
[05:38] <semistud2354> lol
[05:38] <TrueFX> so is there a way to choose automatically Live card instead of CK8S
[05:39] <TrueFX> ?
[05:39] <semistud2354> but i forgot about the files
[05:39] <semistud2354> and now im boned
[05:39] <TrueFX> when i use asoundconf list
[05:39] <TrueFX> CK8S and Live are listed
[05:39] <klobster> zblach: did you try to restart the cups daemon?
[05:39] <zblach> yep
[05:40] <TrueFX> so what may be the possible solution for that?
[05:40] <zblach> also tried purging it and reinstalling it from the cups site
[05:40] <RawSewage> DAMNIT
[05:40] <RawSewage> I thought I was in Politics
[05:40] <RawSewage> the uncensored channel
[05:40] <draik> RawSewage: Depends what you ask or say!
[05:41] <RawSewage> I banned myself from that channel
[05:41] <RawSewage> I was joking though
[05:41] <sebastian> i tired i go to sleep bye have nice settings
[05:41] <RawSewage> but unforgiveable on that channel
[05:41] <klobster> zblach: try #cups, they should be able to help you.
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, if it is installed, tell her to run sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[05:41] <zblach> been there for 20 mins. except for you joining, there's no activity
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, that should restart the ssh server
[05:42] <yurimxpxman> could someone point me in the right direction to spoofing an IP address with netcat?
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, other than that, you're borked
[05:43] <semistud2354> i cant call her anymore
[05:44] <semistud2354> most likely i got off the phone with her around 9
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354, then you're screwed, sorry dude...
[05:44] <intelikey> hmm the game keeps changing .....
[05:44] <semistud2354> she looked at her emial
[05:44] <semistud2354> and music
[05:44] <semistud2354> found the pics
[05:44] <semistud2354> and when i get back
[05:44] <semistud2354> im going to have an incredibly ackward conversation with her
[05:44] <draik> should have just told her
[05:45] <semistud2354> i put them in my downloads folder
[05:45] <semistud2354> along with music and some n64 roms
[05:45] <semistud2354> i wanted to save them
[05:45] <klobster> zblach: sorry, II am not familiar with cups; you might try a wget localhost:631 to see if maybe it's a kong thing?
[05:45] <semistud2354> cuz i wanted to upgrade to feisty
[05:45] <zblach> it's not konq. specific
[05:45] <semistud2354> so i installed ssh on her and my comp
[05:45] <semistud2354> put the folder on her computer
[05:45] <intelikey> should have never setup the camera on your escapades,  errr no.  should have beheaved your self to begin with...
[05:46] <semistud2354> and installed feisty
[05:46] <semistud2354> i finished around 2
[05:46] <semistud2354> am
[05:46] <intelikey> then the pictures wouldn't exist.  the whole thing would never have happened.
[05:46] <semistud2354> then next morning i totaly forgot about them
[05:46] <semistud2354> and left...
[05:47] <klobster> semistud2354: if it helps, I am     sure it's nothing your mom isn't aware of.  I hear everrrryones doing it these days...
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, if only r. kelly and paris hilton had listened to your advice...
[05:47] <semistud2354> its not that
[05:47] <semistud2354> its gonna be kinda ackward to see her...
[05:47] <semistud2354> when she saw the pics
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, nah, just perfected it :)
[05:48] <semistud2354> hopefully it'll just pop up in the thumb nails
[05:48] <intelikey> hitmanWilly well they didn't do that either.
[05:48] <semistud2354> and she will assume its my asshole stepdads pr0n
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, i know, it was just too easy...
[05:49] <semistud2354> if i could have established a connection i could have taken them off
[05:49] <semistud2354> she called like an hour ago
[05:49] <semistud2354> n asked where her music was
[05:49] <semistud2354> i said look in the home folder...
[05:49] <semistud2354> where the file that has my pics are
[05:49] <intelikey> !offtopic | semistud2354
[05:49] <ubotu> semistud2354: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:50] <semistud2354> yea
[05:50] <semistud2354> anyway
[05:50] <Daisuke_Ido> welcome to the game show that's sweeping the globe: You Just Got Disowned!
[05:51] <semistud2354> good story tho
[05:51] <semistud2354> lol
[05:52] <klobster> so anyway, on the fiesty LiveCD I cant seem to resize an EXT3 partition?  ntfs, yes, but ext3, no...
[05:52] <Dr_willis> klobster,  it may be how the drive is aprtitioned/laid out thats causing the problem.
[05:54] <Schuenemann> I just installed feisty and firefox looks very ugly, but I don't remember what I did in edgy. Can anyone help?
[05:54] <Schuenemann> what I did to make it less ugly
[05:54] <intelikey> that's not karma, that's a modem reset.
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, i figured as much...
[05:54] <klobster> ?? SDA 1) ext3 100mb 2)ntfs 46gb 3) ext3 139gb 4) extended 5)swap 1.86gb 6) ext3 44.6gb
[05:55] <klobster> qtparted know how to work with the journaling, no?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> i think the issue MAY be how ya got primary/extended partitions setup
[05:57] <intelikey> tty1 [root@~]  fdisk -l
[05:57] <intelikey> tty1 [root@~]  which fdisk
[05:57] <intelikey> tty1 [root@~]  ls /sbin/fdisk -l
[05:57] <intelikey> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 73968 May 15  2006 /sbin/fdisk
[05:57] <Dr_willis> you want to expand #3 ?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> man you got some complex drive layout. :) none of mine are near that complex. heh
[05:58] <klobster> i want to shrink 3, move 4 and 5 and expnad 6
[05:58] <klobster> and maybe add a 3.5 (if possible)
[05:59] <intelikey> let me guess you made a 46g / fs ???  :)   and found that 6g was plenty    :)
[05:59] <klobster> I need to leave the swap where it's at, as i use it for swap in winxp
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Huh?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> heh..
[06:00] <klobster> intellikey: no I had it all on the 46, and realized maybe I needed a little more security.
[06:00] <klobster> intellikey: oops, s/46/139/
    my root fs is on  /dev/hda  on this box
[06:01] <Dr_willis> I tend to just have a lot of HD's with all primary partitions
[06:01] <klobster> the 44gb is just a blnk partition, really
[06:01] <intelikey> and no that's not a typo.   no partitions exist.
[06:01] <osiris> if anyone wants to see THIS hours screenie...
[06:01] <osiris> http://wickedtribe.homeip.net/screenshots/desktop6_24.png
[06:02] <klobster> intellikey: you don't count; your /dev/hda /dev/sdram
[06:02] <intelikey> klobster what are you making the 'extra' space for ?
[06:03] <intelikey> i'm just wondering if you couldn't just mount the free fs somewhere
[06:03] <klobster> intellikey: I want to move my /home to the newly created partition on the end, and leave my root on it's own
[06:03] <intelikey> hmmmmm
[06:04] <intelikey> i'd prolly just move the / to the 46g free space and change the menu.lst and fstab to match
[06:04] <intelikey> but that's just me.  i like doing things the easy way.
[06:05] <klobster> intelikey: actually that would work just fine.
[06:05] <intelikey> hey it was just a thought.
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[06:06] <klobster> I have a habit of getting stuck in this there has to be a way to do "x" whenever I am around linux.
[06:06] <intelikey> :)
[06:07] <klobster> alright, gotta go watch 4400 before I do a reinstall :(
[06:07] <Viking667> sounds like what I'm going through at the moment. I'm trying to replace a "sox" invocation with an artsplay invocation.
[06:07] <intelikey> 4400 ?
[06:07] <klobster> it's tv.  you wouldn't understand.
[06:07] <intelikey> lol
[06:08] <intelikey> prolly right.
[06:08] <intelikey> :)
[06:08] <weerdo> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:08] <weerdo> whats mean?
[06:09] <klobster> intelikey: thanks for the advice, and the laughs.  see ya!
[06:09] <Viking667> ... incidentally, I went "man artsplay" but there's no man page. for artsplay, where else should I look? I'm pretty new to this kubuntu thing.
[06:09] <intelikey> no 3d eccel
[06:09] <intelikey> klobster shalom
[06:09] <weerdo> ati x200
[06:10] <intelikey> Viking667 sometimes if mo man page try info blah  and it will have an info page.
[06:10] <Viking667> not for a kde prokject
[06:10] <weerdo> intelikey can i do someting?
[06:10] <intelikey> Viking667 else   ls /usr/share/doc/blah         lastly uncle google
[06:12] (intelikey/#kubuntu) !seen everyone
[06:12] (ubotu/#kubuntu) Sorry, I don't know anything about seen everyone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] (nmjohnso/#kubuntu) anyone ever set up an ubuntu server?
[06:13] (Viking667/#kubuntu) !arts
[06:13] (ubotu/#kubuntu) Sorry, I don't know anything about arts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] (Viking667/#kubuntu) bah.
[06:14] <intelikey> Viking667 ok kde docs   look in konqueror #blah !blah @blah
[06:14] <zabi> hello?
[06:14] <nmjohnso> anyone ever set up an ubuntu server?
[06:14] <Viking667> I'm at the COMMANDLINE... I'm not actually in kde at the moment.
[06:14] <osiris> nmjohnso, i have
[06:14] <intelikey> i was thinking alsa not arts   i should pay closer attention
[06:14] <nmjohnso> how is it...i wanna try at my house just to see how it goes and things
[06:14] <nmjohnso> is there anything special i should know?
[06:15] <osiris> what are you looking to serve ?
[06:15] <intelikey> Viking667 well the disreguard previous bable
[06:15] <Schuenemann> hey, I don't see thunderbird 2 in  the repositories
[06:15] <nmjohnso> all the files and everything i have
[06:15] <Viking667> intelikey: ...err, what?
[06:15] <nmjohnso> i'm downloading the server edition of ubuntu right now
[06:15] <osiris> nmjohnso, what share protocols
[06:16] <Viking667> ohhh. "disregard previous babble"
[06:16] <intelikey> Viking667 s/the/then/
[06:16] <zabi> does the gui for ntfs-3g not work in kubuntu?
[06:16] <osiris> smb, ftp, nfs, ?
[06:16] <nmjohnso> i was thinking ftp
[06:16] <osiris> its as easy as any other distro to set up vsftpd
[06:16] <intelikey> yeah typo king is on a roll
[06:16] <Sayers> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated . What key do I need?
[06:17] <Dr_willis> i alwyas just hit "do it anyway" :)
[06:17] <osiris> the keys listed in the sources.list file ?
[06:17] <Viking667> you're worse than I am! At least I correct my errors...
[06:17] <Sayers> I'd like to correct it
[06:17] <nmjohnso> is there anything real easy?
[06:17] <intelikey> Viking667 you don't hold the title of 'typo king' though
[06:17] <Dr_willis> real easy for what?
[06:17] <intelikey> i don't have to correct them..
[06:17] <osiris> i think apache, vsftp, smb are all easy
[06:18] <osiris> its just a matter of your experience level
[06:18] <nmjohnso> honestly never set up any server
[06:18] <osiris> smb would prolly be the easiest for you, and is windows compatible
[06:18] <Dr_willis> install ssh, poof.. ya got a ssh server. :)
[06:18] <osiris> no doubt
[06:18] <intelikey> ssh
[06:18] <Dr_willis> then ya can use winscp on windows to access files.
[06:18] <osiris> a server isnt a distro, its an application
[06:18] <Dr_willis> I do that for fast/quick transfers of files.
[06:19] <nmjohnso> i was also hoping to later be able to set it up to be able to run programs and such on other computers
[06:19] <Viking667> oh crap. I thought so. The docs are in docbook format
[06:19] <nmjohnso> but don't know if it is possible or even a good idea
[06:19] <Dr_willis> nmjohnso,  thats rather .. trivial once ya learn the fundamentals
[06:20] <nmjohnso> ok
[06:20] <osiris> hell, i have a 400 mhz pc that is a "server" . i have telephone (voip phone) with a web server (for the web gui) in it
[06:20] <Dr_willis> I got the machine upstairs with a whole desktop thats running on the machine downstairs. :)
[06:20] <Dr_willis> it just 'appears' locally
[06:20] <Dr_willis> The power of XDMCP :)
[06:20] <nmjohnso> haha
[06:21] <Dr_willis> and with xming, i can get a Linux desktop on the windows box's also
[06:21] <osiris> my xbox plays movies and videos off 3 pc's in my house
[06:21] <Sayers> Hm , I thought Quake 4 worked on linux.
[06:21] <nmjohnso> ok
[06:21] <osiris> almost all my pc's have some form of server app on them
[06:21] <nmjohnso> cuzz i had trouble with getting gui in my ssh
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Sayers,  it has a native linux port.. yes...
[06:21] <Schuenemann> thunderbird 2 was released after feisty... is there some way to install it using apt-get?
[06:21] <osiris> setting up windows file sharing is making a server
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Or was i thinking of Doom4 ?
[06:22] <nmjohnso> i've done that before
[06:22] <Dr_willis> or was that Doom3? Heck.. i give up.
[06:22] <nmjohnso> but that doesn't seem to have the gui and things like i was looking for
[06:22] <Dr_willis> gui in your ssh.. hmm.. theres somthing flawed with that statement. :)
[06:23] <nmjohnso> i was told that with the ssh i could just sudo startx and i'd have gui to play video and things
[06:23] <osiris> help my cli is all gooey
[06:23] <Dr_willis> nmjohnso,  i think you either were told wrong.. or missunderstood.
[06:23] <nmjohnso> its possible
[06:23] <Dr_willis> startx has nothing to do with ssh. :)
[06:23] <Dr_willis> you CAN 'ssh -X remotebox' and then run apps ON that box and have them appear locally
[06:24] <Dr_willis> i do that all the time also.
[06:24] <nmjohnso> will video work well like that?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> thats different from the xdmcp method.
[06:24] <osiris> depends on the bandwidth of the connection
[06:24] <Dr_willis> nmjohnso,  might. :) but may have issues.
[06:24] <nmjohnso> ok
[06:24] <osiris> over lan ? over wan ?
[06:24] <nmjohnso> wan
[06:25] <Dr_willis> i got my porn set up in a samba share.. :) err.. vacation pics..
[06:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:25] <osiris> got a t1 ?
[06:25] <nmjohnso> what i REALLY wanna do is be able to remote log into the box, download files and videos and view them from my laptop
[06:25] <Viking667> incidentally... that reminds me. How do I get a local X server to connect to a remote xdmcp server? I thought I was supposed to use "startx -- :1 -indirect that_host"
[06:25] <Viking667> but that doesn't seem to work too well.
[06:25] <osiris> nmjohnso, thats easy.  just a matter of the methods you chose to do so
[06:25] <nmjohnso> and suggested methods?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> Viking667,  i recall using the -query option
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> nmjohnso, id suggest sftp
[06:26] <osiris> i use a combination of ftp, http, and smb
[06:26] <osiris> and ssh + scp
[06:26] <nmjohnso> program suggestions?  or how do i set up?
[06:26] <Dr_willis> Samba,, :)
[06:26] <nmjohnso> ok
[06:26] <Dr_willis> and read the samba books in the samba-doc package
[06:26] <osiris> hell, ill use lynks on my home server to surf porn sites, post the videos there, then download them from work
[06:27] <lmerovingio> Hi, i have a problem, i installed php, mysql, apache2 but when I make a prube of a php file firefox try to download it
[06:27] <osiris> its just a matter of methods
[06:27] <lmerovingio> what can I do?
[06:28] <osiris> nmjohnso, first learn ssh and samba
[06:28] <nmjohnso> ok
[06:29] <osiris> setting up samba is a bit tricky at first, but is well documented on the net
[06:29] <Dr_willis> and in the repos. :)
[06:29] <Dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[06:29] <ubotu> samba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 6754 kB, installed size 14512 kB
[06:30] <crimsun> read?  pssht.  That's for suckers.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> includes 'Using Samba" and some other samba book.
[06:30] <osiris> aggreed
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Samba by example. or somthing
[06:30] <osiris> i prefer to ozmose data
[06:30] <lmerovingio> I think php is not working, what can I do?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> I wish more disrtos had 'books' in the repos. and set up a easy way to get to them :)
[06:30] <Dr_willis> i end up linking their dirs to my apache www stuff
[06:31] <DaSkreech> !php
[06:31] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:33] <lmerovingio> I dont know what is the problem, when I try the php file "http://localhost/test.php" appears the dialog for download or open the file
[06:34] <lmerovingio> I think php is not working, but I installed it with aptitude install php5
[06:34] <osiris> why not use apt-get ?
[06:34] <Schuenemann> thunderbird 2 was released after feisty... is there some way to install it using apt-get?
[06:34] <osiris> just curious
[06:35] <lmerovingio> but I think is ok with aptitude
[06:35] <lmerovingio> what is better aptitude or apt-get
[06:35] <Dr_willis> depends :)
[06:35] <Dr_willis> aptitude is a little 'smarter' in some areas
[06:35] <Dr_willis> but still has some issues in others.
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Like the other day.. it decided to remove 300 packages... then reinstall them...
[06:36] <Dr_willis> Still not sure what that was about.
[06:36] <intelikey> dselect ?
[06:36] <intelikey> :)
[06:36] <Dr_willis> just did an appotide install somthing, and poof.. it removed 300 packages..
[06:36] <Dr_willis> so i tried installing somting else.. andit put them all back
[06:37] <lmerovingio> I made aptitude install php5, also mysql-server-4.1, also apache2, and others
[06:38] <lmerovingio> but I dont know what is the problem, I think is something missing in the apache2.conf
[06:38] <intelikey> apache is good.     i like cherokee better tho
[06:38] <Daisuke_Ido> how?
[06:38] <intelikey> how !
[06:38] <Schuenemann> so, nobody cares about thunderbird 2? :p
[06:39] <osiris> you bring the peace.  i got the pipe
[06:39] <Dr_willis> Schuenemann,  i know that i dont care about it at all.
[06:39] <jussi01> what codec do i need to play xvid 4?
[06:39] <ben_> i love Kontact
[06:39] <Dr_willis> the xvid codec?
[06:39] <intelikey> !xvid
[06:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: plenty
[06:40] <Dr_willis> which is an open codec as far as i know. so it should be included.
[06:40] <Schuenemann> a generic apt-get question: when something is released after one kubuntu version, that thing won't be added in the repositories?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> Schuenemann,  updates happen every 6 mo.
[06:40] <intelikey> backports
[06:40] <Dr_willis> its Possible theres addations in the backports repos.
[06:41] <Schuenemann> !backports
[06:41] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[06:41] <Dr_willis> or ya got all these unoffical repos also.
[06:41] <Dr_willis> Getting to be a lot of Unoffical repos now a days. :)
[06:41] <intelikey> not that i support there isn't
[06:42] <Dr_willis> you are so special. :)
[06:42] <Daisuke_Ido> the only third-party repo i'll touch is wine
[06:42] <Dr_willis> >hic< wine...
[06:43] <Dr_willis> dosbox win311.exe
[06:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:43] <Daisuke_Ido> well yeah...
[06:43] <DaSkreech> cedega.. hic hic
[06:43] <Daisuke_Ido> vmware to run ms-dos 6.22
[06:43] <Dr_willis> i cancled my cedega account. :)
[06:43] <Schuenemann> is it harmful to have duplicate repositories?
[06:43] <Daisuke_Ido> eff cedega.  i don't play games.
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: yes very
[06:43] <Dr_willis> dosbox is good for the old-skool stuff.
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: it extends your apt-get update time by nearly a second
[06:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:44] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: It's scandalous
[06:44] <Dr_willis> Egads! Optmize that thing!
[06:44] <Schuenemann> I see
[06:44] <intelikey> Schuenemann harmful,,,, not generally  but it's not a good idea either.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> Put it in a ramdisk!
[06:44] <Dr_willis> heh
[06:44] <Daisuke_Ido> Dr_willis: dosbox is truly awesome.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  yep. Plays Warlords good. :)
[06:45] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: iii?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> Does Ultima and  Wizardry also.
[06:45] <Dr_willis>  Warlords II i think is my fave version.
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> i started using it in the early days using builds from harekiet, and it kinda sorta really sucked then.
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> DaSkreech: is iii a dos gam?
[06:45] <Daisuke_Ido> game*
[06:45] <Dr_willis> I had some Ultima/wizardy collection cd's that never did work right under windows. :)
[06:45] <DaSkreech> Warlords III
[06:45] <Dr_willis> with dosbox they work good.
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> even ultima VII
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> which shocked me
[06:46] <Dr_willis> warlords 4 i think was a windows95 version.. that sort of sucked. It had stupid video/cut scenes and stuff.
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> DaS
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> err
[06:46] <Dr_willis> VII that the one with the Murder at the start?
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> DaSkreech: there's no reason that it shouldn't run just fine
[06:46] <Daisuke_Ido> yep
[06:47] <Dr_willis> I never did get past the start. :) heh...
[06:47] <Daisuke_Ido> the one that was really demanding on memory
[06:47] <Dr_willis> always annoyed me..
[06:47] <Daisuke_Ido> i've never finished an ultima game :(
[06:47] <Dr_willis> I finished Ultima I i think.
[06:47] <Dr_willis> or was it II
[06:47] <Dr_willis> the one with the timetravel stuff
[06:48] <Dr_willis> and you could build 'walls' of chests. :) and other odd quirks
[06:48] <Dr_willis> ocean of ships!
[06:48] <intelikey> dosbox ?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> Egads - we were board kids in the old days.
[06:48] <intelikey> is that a gui thing ?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> Dosbox is a dos-emulator  thing. :)
[06:48] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, nope
[06:48] <Dr_willis> !info dosbox
[06:49] <intelikey> hitmanWilly then why wont it run in my console ?
[06:49] <ubotu> dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (feisty), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB
[06:49] <intelikey> dosbox
[06:49] <intelikey> Exit to error: Can't init SDL No available video device
[06:49] <Dr_willis> its an X application
[06:49] <Dr_willis> that can go fullscreen
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, IIRC it dumps you into a dos cmd line
[06:49] <Daisuke_Ido> there are frontends to manage multiple config files
[06:49] <Daisuke_Ido> hitmanWilly: it's a little more than that :)
[06:49] <intelikey> that's what i asked,  is it one of those gui things
[06:49] <Schuenemann> ok, I don't see thunderbird 2 in the backports page. Is there any chance it will be there for feisty someday?
[06:49] <Dr_willis> those darn pesky gui things!
[06:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:50] <DaSkreech> !info atlantik | Dr_willis here "board kid"
[06:50] <ubotu> dr_willis here "board kid": atlantik: KDE client for Monopoly-like network games. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 398 kB, installed size 1132 kB
[06:50] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: I doubt it
[06:50] <Dr_willis> !info pornview
[06:50] <ubotu> pornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-7 (feisty), package size 223 kB, installed size 664 kB
[06:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:50] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: You can  just install it normally
[06:50] <Dr_willis> !info hotbabe
[06:50] <ubotu> Package hotbabe does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:50] <Schuenemann> well, I hope they have a .deb installation
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: doubt that as well But I think if you poke around you can find one
[06:51] <DaSkreech>  Schuenemann try get-deb.net
[06:51] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis:  :-P they do have a deb for it though
[06:51] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  hotbabe? :) i think its on the mediaubuntu site
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: It's fun for like 4 minutes
[06:52] <Daisuke_Ido> "board kid" frequenter of bulletin board systems (BBSes) in the 80's through the mid 90
[06:52] <Daisuke_Ido> 's
[06:53] <vbgunz> someone please help. I drag icons on my desktop and during the drag, the mouse icon changes quickly between the X (cannot drop here icon) and the hand icon... sometimes I can drop a file and sometimes i cannot... anyone know whats causes this and or how to fix it?
[06:53] <Schuenemann> DaSkreech, getdeb.net ?
[06:53] <Daisuke_Ido> back when we waited several hours for the doom shareware version to download :D
[06:53] <underdog5004> dwidmann, you still here?
[06:54] <lmerovingio> what is the channel for spanish?
[06:54] <DaSkreech> Schuenemann: Website that takes apps and debs them up
[06:54] <DaSkreech> !es
[06:54] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:54] <lmerovingio> ok, thanks
[06:54] <DaSkreech> vbgunz: Maybe you are hovering over somewhere you can't drop?
[06:54] <Schuenemann> DaSkreech, yeah, but you put an extra dash and it didn't open for me, I was just making sure
[06:55] <DaSkreech> ah sorry
[06:55] <DaSkreech> I hardly got here
[06:55] <vbgunz> DaSkreech: no, I can definitely drop it ... the desktop is just sort of confused at dropping it... sucks major balls :(
[06:55] <DaSkreech> I just jump on it when Wesnoth gets a release
[06:56] <Schuenemann> nothing found... *sigh*
[06:56] <thedude> if I change the name of my user folder to thedude2, will that change all of my info to thedude2, or simply bork my user dir?
[06:56] <Schuenemann> those manuals installations are a pain
[06:57] <Schuenemann> oh thunderbird, why weren't you released a week before?
[06:58] <lmerovingio> Is there any lamp expert here
[06:59] <intelikey> i've got a major malfunction,    i have a shell script that i can't execute !
[06:59] <lmerovingio> I need somebody to guide me step by step to install it
[06:59] <Schuenemann> !lamp | lmerovingio
[06:59] <ubotu> lmerovingio: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[07:02] <intelikey> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  232 Jun 24 23:00 bob     <<< only return from      tty24 [root@~]  sh ./bob
[07:02] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  ls -l
[07:02] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37664 << the actual code
[07:03] <theRealballchalk> cool didnt know that was what LAMP stood for
[07:03] <theRealballchalk> what about SAMP
[07:04] <hitmanWilly> theRealballchalk, probably solaris
[07:04] <theRealballchalk> oh hah there is
[07:04] <theRealballchalk> google yes
[07:04] <roho> anyone know of a document that tells you how to change the icon for kmenu?
[07:04] <TeraDyne> roho: I've always wondered that as well...
[07:05] <Jucato> roho: hold on a sec
[07:05] <DaSkreech> thedude: what are you trying to do?
[07:05] <Jucato> roho, TeraDyne: <apt> Instructions for changing the K menu icon: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2551958 . Alternatively, use kbfx
[07:06] <Jucato> sorry, that was more than 1 second :)
[07:06] <TeraDyne> Jucato: Thanks
[07:06] <roho> thanks!
[07:06] <underdog5004> can someone help me with this script, please?       http://pastebin.com/935658
[07:06] <roho> yeah, i've read that
[07:06] <Dr_willis> underdog5004,  give a bit of a summery helps.
[07:06] <roho> but i have no icons directory in $KDEDIR
[07:07] <Jucato> roho: yes you do. $KDEDIR in Kubuntu is /usr
[07:07] <Jucato> so that would be /usr/share/icons
[07:07] <roho> oh
[07:07] <roho> so would it be kdeclassic?
[07:07] <Jucato> O.o
[07:07] <underdog5004> Dr_willis, lol, ok. I've got the outline, just a little trouble with syntax, I think. The script is going to look for .torrent files on my desktop. If they're there, then scp to server && rm Desktop/*.torrent. I'm not sure that I'm doing it the right way though...
[07:07] <roho> er, i found it
[07:08] <underdog5004> like I said: http://pastebin.com/935658
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> kbfx looks very shoddy and unprofessional :(
[07:09] <Lynoure> Daisuke_Ido: nothing is forcing you to change it, and you can make it look more like it's in the menu business yourself, it being open source :)
[07:09] <Lynoure> s/change/use
[07:09] <Jucato> Daisuke_Ido: it's the only themeable K Menu alternative. (there's tasty menu now too)
[07:09] <keisangi> is there's a way to limit dolphin ftp session ?
[07:09] <Daisuke_Ido> 1) i know, and so i don't, and 2) if i had the know-how, i would.
[07:10] <Daisuke_Ido> i personally advocate kickoff :)
[07:10] <keisangi> say, using only 2 ftp session, or just one.. alway use same session, doesn't create new connection .. cause my ftp server limit me at 2 concurent sessions a a time ..
[07:13] <underdog5004> Dr_willis, any ideas? I'm really _really_ new at scripting
[07:14] <intelikey> ooops   pebcak
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Raptor FTW!!!!
[07:15] <DaSkreech> NIFOC
[07:15] <DaSkreech> I forget waht pebcak is.
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Oh right
[07:15] <DaSkreech> I used to write pebcak reports
[07:15] <Rumba> in a console (no ncurses-aptitude), how do i list all packages and their state (whether installe/uninstalled/automatically_installed/etc.)?
[07:16] <keisangi> no way for limiting the number of ftp session with dolphin or konqueror ?  ftp://user:pass@myftpserver.net  <--- use only 1 or 2 session max , for exemple ..
[07:16] <osiris> is burning mp3's though k3b also under the restriced formats how-to ?
[07:17] <osiris> i thought i did all that noise already
[07:17] <intelikey> DaSkreech problem exists between chair and keyboard
[07:17] <intelikey> user error
[07:17] <intelikey> or L-user
[07:18] <intelikey> Rumba dpkg -l
[07:18] <Rumba> intelikey: oh, forgot about dpkg, only verified all apt* options
[07:18] <Rumba> intelikey: thanks much
[07:18] <intelikey> Rumba well that doesn't read the package database.
[07:18] <Rumba> intelikey: but what does it read instead?
[07:19] <intelikey> Rumba that is to say it will only list what is on the system not what is in the repos
[07:19] <Rumba> intelikey: oh
[07:19] <intelikey> for a full list from the repos       apt-cache search ' '     maybe
[07:20] <rictic> I've just discovered that kubuntu thinks that my laptop's lid is always closed.  I configured it to suspend when the laptop lid is closed, and now it suspends the moment I boot up.  Any advice?
[07:21] <intelikey> boot a live cd and un-configure it
[07:21] <Rumba> intelikey: any idea how i can generate a list of automatically installed packages?
[07:21] <rictic> I can get into the console as well.  How would I go about changing this setting?
[07:22] <intelikey> Rumba look in /var/log/dpkg.log   maybe ?
[07:22] <Rumba> intelikey: no, there's a specific flag
[07:22] <intelikey> Rumba no that's not what you want...
[07:23] <intelikey> Rumba yes.  i can't think of it right now tho
[07:23] <Rumba> intelikey: i just don't know how to force apt(itude) show it so that i could grep it out
[07:23] <intelikey> man aptitude   ?
[07:24] <rictic> Any idea where this setting lives, or a good place to look this information up?
[07:24] <Rumba> intelikey: that's where i'm coming from, dude :)
[07:24] <Rumba> intelikey: chat is my last resort
[07:25] <intelikey> Rumba heh.    i don't have aptitude installed...   someone else maybe.     i know what you are talking about i did that one time.   but it's been to long.
[07:25] <akrus> hello, how to crop a part of video file? :D
[07:25] <Daisuke_Ido> get video editing software.
[07:25] <akrus> which one? :)
[07:25] <akrus> I just need to cut a little piece of XviD file
[07:26] <DaSkreech> I don't know of any idiot-proof type remastering software on Linux :(
[07:26] <intelikey> rictic not really.    /var/log/     on the installation     i really don't know.              DaSkreech might.
[07:27] <intelikey> DaSkreech know about suspend ?
[07:27] <DaSkreech> What about it?
[07:28] <intelikey> how to turn it off from the live CD so he can boot to something besides suspend mode
[07:28] <rictic> DaSkreech do you know where the setting to suspend when a laptop lid is closed might live?
[07:28] <DaSkreech> What does the powermanagement?
[07:28] <DaSkreech>  Guidance?
[07:29] <rictic> Whatever's the default, it's a fresh install of 7.0.4
[07:29] <elnimr> what the most popular options for invoking xterm?
[07:29] <DaSkreech> rictic: I'd boot up with a live Cd chroot and apt-get remove guidance
[07:29] <intelikey> elnimr --setroot=black   ?
[07:30] <intelikey> --purge
[07:30] <elnimr> it is black by default
[07:30] <intelikey> elnimr glad they changed it
[07:31] <rictic> DaSkreech: ok, I'm booted in with a live cd, but I'm kind of a linux newb.  If I just "sudo apt-get remove guidance" that won't remove it from the install on the hard disk, will it?
[07:31] <DaSkreech> rictic: no
[07:31] <elnimr> crap .... it is not working
[07:31] <DaSkreech> mount the hard drive with /
[07:31] <Simeon_H> ;_;
[07:32] <Simeon_H> I thought dapper was Long Term Support
[07:32] <Simeon_H> but everyone has already forgotten it :/
[07:32] <rictic> DaSkreech: ok, I'll try that
[07:32] <DaSkreech> Simeon_H: :-)
[07:32] <intelikey> Simeon_H i'm using it.
[07:32] <DaSkreech> Simeon_H: intelikey is well acquainted with it
[07:33] <intelikey> i wouldn't go that far...
[07:33] <Simeon_H> I'm determined to use it on this computer untill support runs out
[07:33] <intelikey> same here
[07:33] <Simeon_H> hell I still have hoary ubuntu CD's lying around the place
[07:34] <intelikey> Simeon_H do you use mostly console only ?
[07:35] <Simeon_H> only when I'm on battery power
[07:35] <Simeon_H> or do you mean like, with konsole?
[07:35] <intelikey> shew good,   i was afraid i might have been talking to myself.....
[07:35] <intelikey> :)
[07:35] <Simeon_H> with KDE running, battery lasts about 45 minutes with the lid closed :D
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Simeon_H: he's anti X :)
[07:36] <intelikey> no.
[07:36] <intelikey> i'm not against it.
[07:36] <intelikey> am i ?
[07:36] <Daisuke_Ido> you believe it is the spawn of cthulhu
[07:36] <Simeon_H> don't worry, I'm only sickened by people who say that Qt still isn't free
[07:37] <Simeon_H> it's under the gpl man
[07:37] <Daisuke_Ido> Simeon_H: it isn't
[07:37] <Simeon_H> the gpl
[07:37] <Simeon_H> D:
[07:37] <Daisuke_Ido> depending on the platform and version.
[07:37] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido no the spawn of wyzwyg   heh
[07:37] <Simeon_H> I meant Qt4 for non commercial use
[07:37] <Daisuke_Ido> then yes, it's gpl'd and free for use on all platforms :)
[07:37] <underdog5004> I'm in need of someone to help me with a script I'm writing. Any takers?
[07:37] <Simeon_H> see, one could make the argument that Qt is more free than GTK
[07:38] <underdog5004> Dr_willis, lol, ok. I've got the outline, just a little trouble with syntax, I think. The script is going to look for .torrent files on my desktop. If they're there, then scp to server && rm Desktop/*.torrent. I'm not sure that I'm doing it the right way though...
[07:38] <Simeon_H> as companies are free to use it commercially if they pay
[07:38] <intelikey> underdog5004 language ?
[07:38] <underdog5004> intelikey, bash
[07:38] <Daisuke_Ido> that's not free then :)
[07:38] <intelikey> sure
[07:38] <Simeon_H> yeah but free for everyone else
[07:38] <underdog5004> http://pastebin.com/935656
[07:39] <DaSkreech> underdog5004: lines 7 and 8 would work
[07:39] <underdog5004> intelikey, I'm not too sure about getting the script to know when there are .torrent files on my desktop and when there aren't
[07:39] <underdog5004> intelikey, oh. wow.
[07:39] <Simeon_H> like... with GTK, people get pissy with you if you make closed source apps
[07:39] <vbgunz> how can I use "mount" without needing sudo?
[07:39] <underdog5004> intelikey, of course, because when there aren't any, it doesn't matter!
[07:39] <Simeon_H> umm
[07:39] <vbgunz> mount/umount without needing sudo?
[07:39] <Daisuke_Ido> three strong drinks
[07:39] <Simeon_H> log in as root
[07:40] <Simeon_H> :D
[07:40] <vbgunz> heh
[07:40] <Daisuke_Ido> and i'm off to bed.
[07:40] <Simeon_H> heh man, it's 4 pm here
[07:40] <Simeon_H> and I got up at 1pm
[07:40] <rictic> DaSkreech: any other ideas of what power-support might be installed?  I get "couldn't find package guidance"
[07:40] <DaSkreech> !find guidance
[07:41] <ubotu> Found: kde-guidance, kde-guidance-powermanager
[07:41] <rictic> Thanks DaSkreech
 Found: god
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo apt-get install god
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> E: Couldn't find package god
[07:42] <elnimr> intelikey: those options for xterm arenot working
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> :(
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> if linux says it, it must be so.
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> if i can't apt-get the bible, i don't want it :D
[07:42] <Simeon_H> hey, I had an exchange student named Daisuke living here one time :D
[07:43] <Simeon_H> theres Kbible
[07:43] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: you can
[07:43] <DaSkreech> and gnome-sword
[07:43] <DaSkreech> !find bible
[07:43] <ubotu> Found: bible-kjv, bible-kjv-text, bibledit, biblememorizer, bibletime (and 1 others)
[07:43] <DaSkreech> and bibletiem
[07:43] <DaSkreech>  though I think that might be a game
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> now, are they equal opportunity?
[07:43] <rictic> !find ddate
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> !find mormon
[07:43] <Daisuke_Ido> it would seem not.
[07:43] <ubotu> File ddate found in logwatch, util-linux
[07:44] <ubotu> Package/file mormon does not exist in feisty
[07:44] <DaSkreech> !find koran
[07:44] <ubotu> Package/file koran does not exist in feisty
[07:44] <Daisuke_Ido> koran or quran
[07:44] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[07:44] <DaSkreech> there is a debian koran package though
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> linux has a definite christian bias...  of course that could be simple numbers.  tons of christians (that own a pcs and use linux), tons of christian software.
[07:45] <intelikey> underdog5004 can't you do all that in two lines ?
[07:45] <intelikey> scp $HOME/Desktop/*.torrent  pegasus:$HOME/rtorrent/torre
[07:45] <intelikey> rm /home/matthew/Desktop/*.torrent
[07:45] <underdog5004> intelikey, yup
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Daisuke_Ido: Yeah I just said that Debian has islamic software as well :)
[07:45] <underdog5004> you rock
[07:45] <intelikey> actually   rm $HOME/Desktop/*.torrent
[07:46] <DaSkreech> intelikey: yeah lines 7 and 8
[07:46] <intelikey> on the last line    then it's portable
[07:46] <underdog5004> gotcha
[07:46] <underdog5004> portability is good
[07:46] <intelikey> underdog5004  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37665
[07:47] <underdog5004> already implemented, thanks
[07:47] <elnimr> daSkreech: it would be very convenient if there is a prayer timings program in ubuntu
[07:47] <intelikey> i wasn't sure if the address was what you really wanted there   " pegasus:$HOME/rtorrent/torre  "
[07:48] <DaSkreech> elnimr: What kind of prayer timings?
[07:48] <underdog5004> also, if I want it to run every minute, do I just put *'s in every field for crontab?
[07:48] <intelikey> that sounds right
[07:48] <elnimr> the five daily prayers
[07:48] <underdog5004> awesome!
[07:49] <intelikey> underdog5004 that's probably overkill  mayb a 10minute laps ?
[07:49] <underdog5004> intelikey, meh...you think it'll impact performance?
[07:49] <intelikey> network maybe  how fast is your network ?
[07:49] <underdog5004> 100Mbps
[07:49] <underdog5004> real-world...80Mbps
[07:50] <underdog5004> .torrents are kilobytes though
[07:50] <intelikey> well probably not then.  you can always slow the timmer down if it does
[07:50] <DaSkreech> elnimr: as far as I know they don't have any in ubuntu they do in Debian
[07:50] <DaSkreech> elnimr: that's islamic right?
[07:50] <elnimr> yeah
[07:50] <DaSkreech> elnimr: there is a ubuntu islamic edition that had a single release
[07:51] <rictic> DaSkreech: Thanks again, my laptop now boots without immediately going to sleep:)
[07:52] <DaSkreech> rictic: there you go. You can move the settings files and then reinstall then make things righter
[07:52] <underdog5004> intelikey, I'm not to knowledgable about crontab...when I input a new entry, will it start immediately?
[07:52] <rictic> DaSkreech: Cool.  How would I find out where the settings files for it would be?
 intelikey: those options for xterm arenot working <<< i only mentioned one.   the --purge ws fro rictic so his command would remove the config file too.    sorry.
[07:52] <DaSkreech> .kde I'm guessing
[07:53] <DaSkreech> underdog5004: as soon as you save
[07:53] <intelikey> underdog5004 if cron is running     i think so.
[07:53] <underdog5004> hmm, cron _should_ be running as default, right?
[07:53] <intelikey> but you maybe running anacron   which i havent' played with
[07:54] <intelikey> ps aux
[07:54] <intelikey> @underdog
[07:54] <underdog5004> root      4417  0.0  0.0   2196   864 ?        Ss   Jun23   0:00 /usr/sbin/cron
[07:54] <underdog5004> looks like it's running
[07:54] <intelikey> well there ya go
[07:55] <intelikey> i setup cron one time just learning how... only time it ever ran here   heh
[07:56] <intelikey> i may not be anti X   but i am anti-automatic crap.
[07:56] <underdog5004> although it should be running, the .torrent file isn't moving and I appended date > $HOME/torrent.log to the end to make sure it's running, but there isn't any entries in that file...
[07:57] <DaSkreech> intelikey: sounds like you should run gentoo
[07:57] <intelikey> i don't like to compile tho
[07:57] <underdog5004> it takes forever!
[07:57] <underdog5004> the compiling...
[07:57] <intelikey> yeah
[07:57] <intelikey> specally on a p1
[07:57] <underdog5004> I compiled kde for gentoo...took over 24 hours@
[07:57] <underdog5004> !
[07:58] <underdog5004> lol, I was on a PIII
[07:59] <intelikey> underdog5004 can i see the line in your crontab ?
[07:59] <TeraDyne> underdog5004:  Wow. That's insane. Then again, time is why I rarely compile apps.
[07:59] <underdog5004>   * *  * * * /home/matthew/.torrent.sh
[07:59] <intelikey> no user entry
[08:00] <underdog5004> user...entry?
[08:00] <underdog5004>   * *  * * * matthew /home/matthew/.torrent.sh
[08:00] <underdog5004> ?
[08:00] <intelikey> * * * * * matthew /home/matthew/.torrent.sh
[08:00] <underdog5004> thank you very much...I guess that's why nothing else was working either! I love you!
[08:01] <underdog5004> in a platonic sense...
[08:01] <TeraDyne> underdog5004: I would hope... I think...
[08:01] <underdog5004> lol
[08:01] <intelikey> ohh kay !
[08:03] <intelikey> underdog5004 it works now ?
[08:04] <DaSkreech> intelikey: if not you are sleeping on the couch
[08:04] <underdog5004> hmmm...not yet...should I do su - matthew ? I know that's bad practice....
[08:04] <underdog5004> hahahahahaha
[08:04] <underdog5004> should I put &&
[08:04] <underdog5004> at the end of every line?
[08:04] <underdog5004> except the last
[08:05] <intelikey> i think that would error out
[08:05] <intelikey> check the cron logs and see what's going on
[08:05] <underdog5004> ok
[08:06] <intelikey> shoot fire gota run
[08:06] <underdog5004> lol
[08:11] <DaSkreech> And yet hell is so hot!
[08:11] <DaSkreech> Give me back my hands
[08:11] <DaSkreech> No!
[08:11] <DaSkreech>  YOU'RE NOT NICE!
[08:11] <underdog5004> darn, it's still not working...any ideas, DaSkreech ?
[08:12] <DaSkreech> Have you tried the script itself?
[08:12] <underdog5004> yep, works like a charm
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Doubt it has anything to do with anything but I'd put it in /usr/share/bin and make it root executable
[08:15] <underdog5004> ok
[08:15] <underdog5004> chmod +x script.sh?
[08:16] <DaSkreech> yup
[08:16] <underdog5004> /usr/share/bin is not a directory...
[08:17] <underdog5004> lol, nvm
[08:17] <underdog5004> oh. shit.
[08:17] <DaSkreech> !ohmy
[08:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:17] <underdog5004> I think I just overwrote my /usr/share/bin with my .torrent.sh script
[08:18] <underdog5004> I'm freaking out here.
[08:18] <underdog5004> what do I do?
[08:19] <underdog5004> I'm sorry about my language
[08:20] <underdog5004> was there anything important in there? Can I just rm /usr/share/bin and then mkdir /usr/share/bin?
[08:22] <DaSkreech> eh?
[08:22] <underdog5004> that's what I did...my system hasn't come crashing down yet...sorry for the language
[08:22] <DaSkreech> Umm might be /usr/bin :)
[08:22] <underdog5004> lol
[08:22] <TeraDyne> I don't have a /usr/share/bin, so I doubt it's important.
[08:23] <underdog5004> what's in /usr/share/bin?
[08:23] <DaSkreech> My imagination?
[08:23] <underdog5004> I'm so glad
[08:24] <underdog5004> anytime I start messing around in /usr as su, I get nervous
[08:24] <DaSkreech> :-)
[08:24] <TeraDyne> Apparently, windows exists there
[08:24] <underdog5004> good thing it's non-existant then, huh?
[08:25] <TeraDyne> Exactly. Though, if I didn't have to let my uncle play his poker game, I'd blow windows off of my desktop and plop Ubuntu on it.
[08:25] <DaSkreech> TeraDyne: try wine
[08:26] <TeraDyne> DaSkreech: Doesn't work. Requires IE6 and flash, and even adding them via ies4linux doesn't work.
[08:26] <underdog5004> DaSkreech, ok, that's still not working...maybe run as su - matthew ?
[08:27] <DaSkreech> !cron
[08:27] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[08:27] <DaSkreech> underdog5004: there you go
[08:27] <underdog5004> tyvm
[08:27] <DaSkreech>  Good night all
[08:27] <underdog5004> *sigh* time to figure stuff out for myself
[08:27] <TeraDyne> Night
[08:27] <underdog5004> good night
[08:27] <underdog5004> thank you
[08:27] <DaSkreech> !thanks
[08:27] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[08:28] <TeraDyne> I'm off to bed as well. Time to set as away...
[08:28] <underdog5004> good night
[08:28] <TeraDyne> night
[08:45] <luna_> hello,everyone
[08:45] <basse> morning
[08:47] <luna_> i'm in China,and now is afternoon here
[08:48] <basse> too bad. :)
[08:52] <c1|freaky> i'm in germany. its 8:52am here ;p
[08:54] <basse> thats better
[08:54] <basse> i'm in finland..
[08:57] <c1|freaky> what timezone is finland in?
[09:12] <vbgunz> anyone know how a regular user like myself can use mount/umount without using sudo or logging in as root?
[09:17] <Jucato> !fstab | vbgunz
[09:17] <ubotu> vbgunz: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:18] <vbgunz> Jucato: thanks, am also looking at fuseiso at the moment, though I might prefer fstab :)
[09:18] <Jucato> vbgunz: fstab is simpler. with the correct option, you can just use "mount <mount point>" with no problem
[09:18] <Jucato> but I'm no fstab expert myself :)
[09:19] <Jucato> anything related to hardware and networking, I'm a noob :)
[09:19] <vbgunz> Jucato: I remember reading something up on that using a device block or something like that e.g., /dev/sdax, etc. problem is, with what I read earlier it made no sense as my iso's have different names... I'll look at the link, hopefully I can find a good example :)
[09:20] <vbgunz> I would seriously prefer fstab though :)
[09:20] <Jucato> mounting ISO's?
[09:20] <vbgunz> Jucato: that looks great
[09:20] <Jucato> there's also thi
[09:20] <Jucato> this*
[09:20] <Jucato> !iso
[09:20] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[09:21] <vbgunz> Jucato: yeah, I have a dozen iso's of home family movies and stuff. I have no problem mounting them with sudo *but* I get really tired of the password prompt rather quickly
[09:22] <vbgunz> Jucato: major thanks for that link, looks excellent, something I really need to read. major thanks :D
[09:37] <AutoMatriX> hi folks
[09:42] <rier> hi all
[09:44] <rier> i have some problems with my new system AMD64 - the browser don't support java-runtime, flashplayer and so on
[09:44] <Jucato> !flash64
[09:44] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:46] <rier> ok - thanks
[10:33] <Maman> hi all, can anyone help on how to crack .rar password in ubuntu/kubuntu/linux , i'm loosing the password
[10:37] <Maman>  hi all, can anyone help on how to crack .rar password in ubuntu/kubuntu/linux , i'm loosing the password
[10:51] <[Al] chemist_ex> does compiz fusion have a channel?
[10:54] <mat1980> [Al] chemist_ex: look for it in http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/
[10:55] <mat1980> [Al] chemist_ex: for only freenode channels http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode
[10:56] <[Al] chemist_ex> thank you
[10:56] <hiyah> how to check the version of a module like aacraid ?
[10:57] <crocodile> how do you, you mean?
[11:00] <kraut> moin
[11:02] <zander> 9it28uzy
[11:03] <fritz> need some help in installing some themes for kubuntu..any1 free 4 pestering...i know what to do..just don't know how to do it:-/
[11:03] <tmbg> instant pestering! streaming broadbrain!
[11:03] <zander> how do i add the #gnewsense to my chanels?  as it  were... i am new at the irc thing...
[11:04] <zander> well i could just klieeq on the blue link...
[11:06] <hiyah> how to check the version of a module like aacraid ?
[11:07] <ManiDhillon> hello
[11:07] <fritz> need some help in installing some themes for kubuntu..any1 free 4 pestering...i know what to do..just don't know how to do it:-/
[11:08] <ManiDhillon> !beryl
[11:08] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:08] <fritz> don't want beryl
[11:08] <fritz> cause it runns really slow on my machine
[11:08] <fritz> just want to make everythin transparent
[11:08] <fritz> and change the colors in kde
[11:08] <fritz> :-/
[11:09] <crocodile> crocodile - this is a test talking to myself
[11:09] <ManiDhillon>  '<  Anyone here
[11:13] <jorik808> does anyone know a program to cut n paste up wav files ?
[11:14] <Jucato> !info audacity
[11:14] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2032 kB, installed size 6016 kB
[11:14] <Jucato> jorik808: ^^^
[11:14] <jorik808> thx
[11:16] <jorik808> Jucato: excellent
[11:31] <enry> hi
[11:59] <Gerrit> In knetworkmanager, where can I find what the different icons mean?
[12:05] <icecruncher> !adept-fix
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <icecruncher> !adeptfix
[12:05] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:11] <michal_katowice> hi all, I have a problem....
[12:12] <mat1980> michal_katowice: what?
[12:12] <michal_katowice> If i created a very simple script like !#/bin/sh <next line> amarok
[12:12] <michal_katowice> and i placed it on desktop
[12:12] <michal_katowice> what should i do if i want to attache my own icon to this script?
[12:13] <michal_katowice> instead of basic kde icon.
[12:14] <icecruncher> michal_katowice: right click on it the properties, here you can change it by clicking on the picture of the icon
[12:17] <michal_katowice> Thank you
[12:18] <icecruncher> np
[12:19] <Ind[y] > A good DAV client?
[12:22] <Ind[y] > Could somebody recommend me a DAV client?
[12:22] <icecruncher> Ind[y] : DAV? meaning...
[12:24] <Ind[y] > A GUI DAV client.
[12:25] <Ind[y] > Could somebody recommend me a GUI DAV client please?
[12:25] <icecruncher> Ind[y] : sorry, but wht is DAV? lol
[12:25] <Ind[y] > oh, never mins
[12:25] <Ind[y] > *mind
[12:37] <linux_> crdlb: you there?
[12:38] <linux_> Ok.
[12:38] <linux_> Anyone?
[12:38] <aleksanteri> linux_, he seems to be away
[12:38] <aleksanteri> at least he has /away set
[12:39] <linux_> He helped me to set beryl on my laptop
[12:39] <linux_> After i rebooted
[12:39] <linux_> Beryl stopped
[12:39] <linux_> I dunno how to run it again using the termanal
[12:39] <crdlb> linux_, join #ubuntu-effects
[12:40] <nimble_> anyone know why partition i just formatted as ext3 has 15gb used space?
[12:40] <Kprofthreat> ?
[12:46] <ciacon> can someone help me with my v4linux problem?? --> http://pastebin.ca/588107
[12:46] <aleksanteri> are you root?
[12:47] <ciacon> nope
[12:47] <aleksanteri> hm
[12:48] <ciacon> same problem when using sudo
[12:50] <aldin> hi, i need to find if my distro is ubuntu, how do i find it, i need it for one script and i need only "ubuntu" or "Ubuntu" as result, thanks in advance
[12:51] <Jucato> aldin: lsb_release --id
[12:53] <aldin> Jucato: that is good, but how do i get rid of "distributor" i want to get pure "ubuntu", how do i grep so it only says ubuntu?
[12:54] <Jucato> hm... dunno...
[12:57] <Dragon> hello :-)
[12:58] <icecruncher> hi
[12:59] <Dragon> can any1 help me free my memory? every time i run a program it uses memory but when i close tht program its still useing tht memory :-\ how do i fix this??
[12:59] <Lynoure> Dragon: Are you running out of memory?
[12:59] <Dragon> if i use my computer for a while yes .....
[12:59] <Lynoure> Dragon: if not, don't worry about it, it's normal.
[01:00] <aleksanteri> darn aldin left i had the command for him :P
[01:00] <Lynoure> Dragon: and by running out I mean programs erroring or shutting down because of it. Near 100% use is normal.
[01:00] <Dragon> if i use my computer for a while i run out of memory and it starts useing swap
[01:01] <Dragon> when it starts useing swap i usually restart my computer witch frees up my memory for a while
[01:09] <flowingfire> Hi there.  Does anybody know what I need to do to get a presentation to show up on my televiaion?  I have a svideo cable connected... no picture yet
[01:09] <flowingfire> hmm... mabye I'll try #ubuntu
[01:21] <ciacon> any hint what this could mean??  ==>>>        sudo insmod /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/extra/ov51x-jpeg.ko          insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/extra/ov51x-jpeg.ko': -1 File exists
[01:23] <fritz> can any1 assist me in a problem?...i want to install gizmo 2 be able 2 make calls on messenger...i donwloaded the files onto my desktop...now what....how do i make adept see them?
[01:24] <Dragnslcr> Depends on what kind of files you downloaded
[01:27] <fritz> i just want to install that darn gizmo :(.... http://www.gizmoproject.com/download-linux.html here's the download site
[01:27] <fritz> it says download and then install...easyer said then done i'm affraid
[01:28] <Dragnslcr> And they don't have installation instructions?
[01:28] <Dragnslcr> What kind of file did you download?
[01:29] <fritz> did you look on the site?...i downloaded the debian files....
[01:29] <Tm_T> fritz: yes, just rightclick and select install
[01:29] <fritz> i'm running kubuntu feisty right now...
[01:32] <Dragnslcr> If you download .deb files, you can probably just open/run them and KDE will know what to do
[01:36] <fritz> i love kubuntu
[01:36] <fritz> :))
[01:37] <user1_> kubuntu does not love me :(
[01:37] <Tm_T> yes it does, in its own way
[01:39] <user1_> kubuntu does not install properly
[01:40] <Tm_T> ok
[01:40] <user1_> it complains hard drive failure
[01:40] <user1_> at some certain file
[01:40] <Tm_T> and?
[01:41] <user1_> i checked hardware with ultimate boot cd
[01:41] <user1_> no hard drive problme whatsoever
[01:41] <Tm_T> and?
[01:43] <Tm_T> user1_: have you tried other install media, checked install media, or something else?
[01:44] <user1_> same cd installs on laptop fine
[01:45] <Tm_T> doesn't matter
[01:45] <Tm_T> check it, try some other, whatever
[01:46] <nightb> Bonjour tout le monde
[01:46] <Tm_T> nightb: moin
[01:47] <nightb> "moin" ?
[01:47] <egon_> hi
[01:47] <egon_> :)
[01:47] <Tm_T> nightb: "bonjour" ? (;
[01:48] <egon_> wath happend with the adept? it wont start :(
[01:48] <Tm_T> egon_: well, mind to be more exact?
[01:48] <nightb> Oh sorry I've think that I am in a French channel
[01:49] <Tm_T> nightb: heh, youre not (:
[01:49] <egon_> if i want to start the Adept, the adept told me that my Apt Files are Damaged
[01:49] <nightb> Tm_T => You are from Finland ?
[01:50] <Tm_T> yes
[01:50] <egon_> but in the terminal i can use the "apt-get update" oder "Upgrade
[01:50] <Tm_T> egon_: what the exact error is?
[01:50] <nightb> Ok, so do you know Lordi ?
[01:51] <Tm_T> yes?
[01:51] <Tm_T> !offtopic | nightb
[01:51] <ubotu> nightb: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:51] <nightb> Sorry
[01:51] <Tm_T> np (:
[01:51] <Tm_T> you are free to join us in #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:52] <Dusk_> can someone help me with my xorg.conf http://rafb.net/p/PkK9PU23.hatml
[01:52] <Dusk_> i can't get 3d-acc
[01:53] <egon_> The Apt-Database is not clean, maybe the Database is Damaged. Please try "sudo apt-get update" in the Termial to repair it.
[01:53] <fritz> ok great...it can't call yahoo:((
[01:54] <Tm_T> !adeptcrashfix | egon_
[01:54] <ubotu> egon_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:54] <fritz> does any1 know how I can make a call on yahoo...using anything?
[01:54] <Tm_T> dunno if that works
[01:54] <Dusk_> !3d
[01:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:54] <Tm_T> Dusk_: hum, does "ati" driver have 3d capability?
[01:54] <Tm_T> or was it some other driver
[01:54] <Tm_T> I think fglrx atleast has something
[01:55] <Dusk_> Tm_T: it must have 3d capability
[01:55] <Tm_T> hum?
[01:55] <egon_> It wont Help :(
[01:55] <Dusk_> Tm_T: i installed fglrx from howto binaries document
[01:55] <chx> From time to time my keyboard just stops operating. If I log out and log in it works again. Not a hardware problem, tried with different keyboard, on PS/2 on USB both. KDE . VERY frustrating.
[01:55] <fritz> does any1 know how I can make a call on yahoo...using anything?
[01:55] <chx> It's only since I upped to Feisty.
[01:55] <egon_> well gut use gutsy so maybe thats the peroblem xD
[01:55] <Tm_T> Dusk_: yes, but you're still using ati driver, not fglrx
[01:55] <egon_> gut = but
[01:56] <Dusk_> Tm_T: how can i use fglrx?
[01:56] <Dusk_> Tm_T: i changed "ati" to "fglx" in xorg.conf
[01:56] <Tm_T> Dusk_: change  driver "ati" to "fglrx"
[01:56] <Tm_T> Dusk_: yes but your paste shows other
[01:56] <Dusk_> Tm_T: because when i do it the graphic base can't open
[01:57] <Tm_T> then check what error you get then
[01:57] <Dusk_> Tm_T: look what i have when i try to check out direct rendering
[01:58] <Dusk_> glxinfo | glep "rendering"
[01:58] <Dusk_> Tm_T: was this like that?
[01:58] <Tm_T> one wayyes
[01:59] <Dusk_> Tm_T: http://rafb.net/p/D4HA9T32.html
[01:59] <Dusk_> Tm_T: here is the outpost
[01:59] <Tm_T> Dusk_: ok, and you have what driver atm enabled?
[02:00] <Tm_T> let me guess, "ati"
[02:00] <crdlb> Dusk_, what card do you have?
[02:01] <Dusk_> crdlb: 9600xt
[02:01] <crdlb> Dusk_, why use fglrx  then?
[02:01] <Dusk_> crdlb: i only want a good 3d acc. what should i do?
[02:02] <crdlb> Dusk_, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:02] <Dusk_> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[02:02] <Dusk_> Xlib: No protocol specified
[02:03] <Dusk_> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[02:03] <eagles0513875> !avi
[02:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:09] <dhome> hello
[02:09] <dhome> can anyone help me regarding sound device?
[02:09] <dhome> im a newbie in kubuntu
[02:09] <dhome> pls....
[02:09] <kexman> hello
[02:09] <dhome> hello kexman
[02:10] <dhome> can you please help me regarding sound device
[02:10] <dhome> im a newbie here
[02:10] <dhome> can you please help me regarding sound device
[02:10] <dhome> plssssssssss....
[02:10] <Rumba> how do i get a list of _all_ packages that are _marked_ as autoremovable (i.e. not just those ones that are currently removable (i.e. are not used by any other packages))?
[02:10] <Tm_T> !sound | dhome
[02:10] <ubotu> dhome: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:11] <kexman> can anyone tell me what these mountpoint are usefull for ? http://rafb.net/p/6aIAMS51.html ?
[02:11] <dhome> thanks! ill try that
[02:12] <dhome> ubotu my "enable sound system" is checke
[02:12] <ardchoille> !bot
[02:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:12] <dhome> can you please help me regarding sound device
[02:13] <kexman> dhome: wtf is with it ?
[02:13] <dhome> i dony hear anysound.. and my amarok hangs
[02:13] <dhome> i dont hear anysound.. and my amarok hangs
[02:13] <kexman> dont use amarok
[02:13] <dhome> im a newbie here..
[02:13] <kexman> :P
[02:14] <dhome> even kaffeine is hanging.. :(
[02:14] <dhome> the speaker icon is muted..
[02:14] <dhome> i dont know what to do
[02:15] <dhome> im just a newbie here
[02:16] <dhome> can anyone please help me regarding sound device
[02:16] <ardchoille> !patience | dhome
[02:16] <ubotu> dhome: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:16] <Dusk_> Tm_T: i will only change driver "ati" to "fglrx" or also board "ati"??
[02:17] <dhome> huh?
[02:17] <kexman> RTFM
[02:17] <kexman> UTFG
[02:17] <dhome> im very sorry, im really newbie here
[02:17] <dhome> :(
[02:17] <ardchoille> kexman: That is not welcome here.
[02:17] <kexman> then you need to read
[02:17] <eagles0513875> dhome whats ur problem dude
[02:17] <kexman> ardchoille: dehh
[02:17] <dhome> i dont here any sound
[02:17] <eagles0513875> and what pkg do i need to download to play avi files
[02:18] <kexman> well if you spoon feed him he wont learn shit
[02:18] <kexman> eagles0513875: try mplayer / vlc
[02:18] <eagles0513875> kexman: rnt we here to help people who have problems
[02:18] <eagles0513875> and i seem to learn when someone else shows me
[02:18] <dhome> the speaker is muted
[02:18] <eagles0513875> u fixed it lol
[02:19] <Dragnslcr> dhome- did you try unmuting it then?
[02:19] <dhome> yes
[02:19] <kexman> eagles0513875: ehh ... you need to read stuff then ask specific questions ... imho
[02:19] <kexman> dhome: does it work now ?
[02:19] <dhome> no
[02:19] <eagles0513875> ok
[02:19] <Rumba> how do i get a list of _all_ packages that are _marked_ as autoremovable (i.e. not just those ones that are _currently_ removable)?
[02:19] <kexman> what card do you have ?
[02:19] <dhome> it is already set to the highest level
[02:19] <kexman> what kernel ? does the kernel have sound support built in or as a module ?
[02:19] <kexman> dhome: middle will suffice
[02:20] <kexman> did you had sound before ?
[02:20] <dhome> no...
[02:20] <dhome> i think the problem is the sound driver
[02:20] <dhome> but i dont know how to fix it
[02:21] <dhome> in my desktop the sound is working.. but i cant fix it in my notebool
[02:21] <dhome> in my desktop the sound is working.. but i cant fix it in my notebook
[02:21] <eagles0513875> what kind of notebook is it
[02:21] <dhome> toshiba A100
[02:21] <eagles0513875> ok do u know how to open up the mixer
[02:21] <dhome> yes
[02:22] <eagles0513875> open it up
[02:22] <dhome> its already open
[02:22] <eagles0513875> u see the colum that looks like sound wave symbol
[02:22] <eagles0513875> is the light under it light green
[02:23] <eagles0513875> and 2ndly have u installed the latest updated packages
[02:23] <dhome> i cant see any column that looks like sound wave symbol
[02:23] <eagles0513875> open up a command line
[02:23] <dhome> ok.. then..
[02:23] <eagles0513875> and in there type in sudo apt-get dist-update
[02:24] <eagles0513875> the password for sudo is ur password u use to login
[02:24] <eagles0513875> that will update any packages that have had a newer version released
[02:25] <dhome> it says invalid operation dist-update
[02:27] <dhome> is there any other way to update?
[02:27] <ardchoille> dhome: sudo apt-get dis-upgrade
[02:27] <ardchoille> dhome: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:27] <ardchoille> There is no dist-update
[02:28] <dhome> its updating now
[02:28] <dhome> thanks ardchoille
[02:28] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[02:28] <eagles0513875> sry my mistake
[02:29] <eagles0513875> dhome: its also goign to install a new updated kernel so once its done updating reboot and load the newest kernel version and see if that helps with ur audio issue
[02:30] <dhome> ok.. thank you so much
[02:30] <dhome> i really appreciated it
[02:31] <eagles0513875> if it doesnt come back here and we will help u trouble shoot some more
[02:31] <ardchoille> dhome: Which ubuntu are you using? Feisty? Edgy?
[02:31] <dhome> Feisty
[02:32] <dhome> Kubuntu
[02:32] <ardchoille> BEst distro around, IMHO.
[02:32] <eagles0513875> same here
[02:32] <eagles0513875> im running the 64bit version of feisty
[02:32] <Tm_T> aww, boys, no need to mention it here (;
[02:32] <eagles0513875> best 64bit os around lol
[02:32] <eagles0513875> mention what:(
[02:32] <ardchoille> :)
[02:33] <dhome> im just using 32bit since my processor is only dual core
[02:33] <Tm_T> that Kubuntu is the best (ofcourse it is)
[02:33] <ardchoille> I've been running Ubuntu since warty was released and the biggest problem I have ever had was how to change the menu icon, lol
[02:33] <eagles0513875> dhome: amd or intel
[02:33] <dhome> intel
[02:33] <eagles0513875> i found out bout this through a professor at my university
[02:33] <eagles0513875> rnt all the newer intel processor both 32bit and 64bit compatible
[02:34] <eagles0513875> or am i just completely wrong in thinking that
[02:34] <Tm_T> no idea
[02:34] <Tm_T> nor doesn't matter
[02:34] <eagles0513875> lol
[02:34] <Tm_T> there's no real advantage using 64bit os unless you _really_ need it
[02:34] <eagles0513875> if it is dhome can run a 64bit version
[02:34] <Tm_T> and I haven't met one yet
[02:35] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: well, that usually just bring problems
[02:35] <eagles0513875> lol once i can figure out some 3danimation stuff with blender it will come in handy
[02:35] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: might come
[02:35] <eagles0513875> Tm_T: with feisty x86_64 i havent had any problems except ones i create lol
[02:35] <dhome> are you guys developer/programmer?
[02:36] <eagles0513875> once i take a programming class in college thsi fall ill start doign some developing and programming lol
[02:36] <ardchoille> dhome: I'm a graphics artist and skinner.. I coudn't code to save my life.
[02:36] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: well, for "newbie user" 64bit means no flash no w23codecs no... bah
[02:36] <TheInfinity> dhome: somehow yes, but not on a large application, just somehow 4fun ;)
[02:36] <eagles0513875> lol
[02:36] <dhome> ah...
[02:36] <eagles0513875> nice any pkgs out there urs TheInfinity
[02:36] <Tm_T> dhome: Kubuntu/KDE dev (they say)
[02:37] <dhome> actually im a windows developer (.net)
[02:37] <dhome> i just want to try new things
[02:37] <dhome> and learn
[02:37] <TheInfinity> no - as i sayd - just 4fun
[02:37] <eagles0513875> dhome: do not metion windos aka winblows round here lol
[02:37] <ardchoille> dhome: You might look into mono
[02:37] <dhome> hahah
[02:37] <dhome> im sorry
[02:37] <eagles0513875> its ok lol
[02:37] <TheInfinity> i try to learn qt soon ;)
[02:37] <eagles0513875> if i could only get world of warcraft to work with better frame rates with wine im going to chunk winblows all together
[02:38] <eagles0513875> Tm_T: only useful thing for me running 64bit is that i do alot of video editing and audio encoding
[02:38] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: I know
[02:38] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: and that's not what dhome will do in that scale
[02:39] <eagles0513875> anyone interested in a kool website for free webhosting and i literally mean free
[02:39] <dhome> what applications in linux that can run wind**s program?
[02:39] <eagles0513875> wine its a windows emulator
[02:39] <dhome> i see..
[02:39] <dhome> ill check it later after the update
[02:39] <eagles0513875> lol
[02:39] <Simeon_H> it's not
[02:39] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: noooo, not emulator
[02:40] <Simeon_H> it actually stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator"
[02:40] <eagles0513875> what is it then Tm_T
[02:40] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: compatibility layer
[02:40] <Simeon_H> it's a compatibility layer
[02:40] <eagles0513875> dhome: then im wrong
[02:40] <Tm_T> !wine | dhome
[02:40] <eagles0513875> i just learnt something new
[02:40] <ubotu> dhome: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:40] <eagles0513875> lol
[02:40] <Simeon_H> omg
[02:40] <ardchoille> dhome: If you're going to run wine, you might want anti-virus apps.
[02:40] <dhome> ....nice... im starting to learn here... :p
[02:41] <Simeon_H> grrrr
[02:41] <Simeon_H> don't call it GNU/Linux
[02:41] <ardchoille> dhome: Because wine will run windows viruses/trojans/worms/etc:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=72598
[02:41] <Simeon_H> it's too confusing ;_;
[02:41] <Simeon_H> yeah I got hit by one
[02:41] <eagles0513875> something else that amazes me is that aegis picks up viruses on my winblows partition that avg doesnt even pic up
[02:41] <eagles0513875> or its a bug in aegis coding that pics up stuff that isnt really infected
[02:42] <ardchoille> false positives?
[02:42] <eagles0513875> i dunno im afraid to remove anything lol off that partition
[02:42] <eagles0513875> not sure if they r viruses or not
[02:43] <eagles0513875> if anyone is truely interested in literally adn truly free webhosting go to www.x10hosting.com
[02:43] <dhome> omg upgrade really takes time :(
[02:43] <dhome> .........18%
[02:43] <Simeon_H> free as in speech hosting?
[02:44] <eagles0513875> u cant put up pornographic images or copyrighted music or anything like that
[02:44] <eagles0513875> u would have to read the tos
[02:44] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: This is not the place for that.
[02:44] <dhome> guys, how do i check my internet speed?
[02:44] <eagles0513875> ok back to providing support
[02:44] <eagles0513875> go to www.speedtest.net
[02:45] <eagles0513875> what kind of connection r u on dhome
[02:45] <dhome> broadband.... in philippines it is called SmartBro
[02:45] <eagles0513875> ok try the site i mentioned above
[02:45] <eagles0513875> do u know what kind of download speed ur supposed to be getting and the upload speed to
[02:46] <dhome> they said 384kbps
[02:46] <eagles0513875> honestly at that speed it is goign to take some time
[02:46] <dhome> hahaha
[02:46] <eagles0513875> especially when there r alot of pkgs to upgrade
[02:46] <dhome> i know :(
[02:46] <liviu> anybody here from romania?
[02:47] <frojnd> does anyone know  for any program that is for linux and windows to chat via LAN ?
[02:47] <eagles0513875> dhome: ur lucky u rnt doing a fully upgrade from one version to the next
[02:47] <eagles0513875> cuz ull be there for a couple of hrs
[02:47] <dhome> aww
[02:48] <eagles0513875> lol
[02:48] <dhome> eagles: where you from?
[02:48] <eagles0513875> dhome: is this the first linux distro uve played round with
[02:48] <dhome> yes
[02:48] <eagles0513875> usa but in europe visiting family for the summer
[02:48] <dhome> i just installed it a couples of hours ago :D
[02:49] <dhome> i just installed it a couple of hours ago :D
[02:49] <eagles0513875> thats kool
[02:49] <eagles0513875> dhome | !register
[02:49] <dhome> register where?
[02:50] <eagles0513875> !register | dhome
[02:50] <ubotu> dhome: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:50] <Simeon_H> be warned that linux will make it hard for you to get chicks :/
[02:50] <eagles0513875> lol
[02:50] <eagles0513875> y do u say that
[02:50] <dhome> lols
[02:50] <see-g> Simeon_H: depends on what kind of chick you're after
[02:50] <eagles0513875> dhome: register cuz that way u will be able to talk to people one on one if ur working specifically with an individual to solve ur problem
[02:51] <eagles0513875> elaborate see
[02:51] <daquino> shouldn't there be some type of warning that your battery is going critically low ?
[02:51] <dhome> ok..
[02:51] <daquino> also if you close the laptop lid with ac power then unplug the ac power it never goes into suspend mode
[02:52] <eagles0513875> there is a power manager and for me it warns me when my comp is low on battery
[02:52] <eagles0513875> not sure bout the suspend mode
[02:53] <Simeon_H> yeah mine gets one
[02:53] <Simeon_H> it goes beep and says battery power is running out
[02:53] <eagles0513875> daquino: u using feisty or edgy
[02:53] <eagles0513875> hi daniela lol nice to see a lady in the channel lol
[02:57] <eagles0513875> one thing i really want to develop is a linux based point of sales system.
[02:57] <eagles0513875> more like a kubuntu based point of sales system lol
[02:57] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: hum?
[02:57] <Simeon_H> yeah then we could have all da supermarkets running linux
[02:57] <Simeon_H> :D
[02:57] <eagles0513875> register program lol
[02:57] <eagles0513875> ya
[02:58] <Lynoure> Simeon_H: actually many POS are already linux
[02:58] <dadan> where i can get quicktime for feisty
[02:58] <Lynoure> most, even
[02:58] <eagles0513875> Lynoure: what kind of programs and could i get a link plz
[02:58] <Dusk_> !quicktime
[02:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:58] <eagles0513875> to a good one cuz ive searched for one but all i find r s*** linux point of sales software
[02:59] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: I'm at work now, and cannot remember names, so you can probably google as well as I
[02:59] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: s***?
[02:59] <eagles0513875> ok
[02:59] <eagles0513875> another word for poo lol
[02:59] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: I was not talking about OSS ones, mind you
[02:59] <dadan> !gyachi
[02:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gyachi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:59] <eagles0513875> wat u mean by oss
[02:59] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: but the commercial POS systems
[02:59] <eagles0513875> ohhhhhhhhh
[02:59] <dadan> !gyach
[02:59] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: open source software
[02:59] <fritz> i just installed the kde4 pakage from adept..now how do I set it up?
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gyach - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <eagles0513875> the open source ones sux balls that is y i want to develop a really good oss one
[03:00] <aleksanteri> !info gyach
[03:00] <ubotu> Package gyach does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:00] <Lynoure> !ohmy
[03:00] <aleksanteri> !info gyachi
[03:00] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:00] <ubotu> Package gyachi does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[03:00] <eagles0513875> what is gyachi
[03:00] <BluesKaj> fritz, at the login menu
[03:00] <fritz> i just installed the kde4 pakage from adept..now how do I set it up?
[03:01] <eagles0513875> !patience | fritz
[03:01] <ubotu> fritz: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:02] <fritz> sorry...didn't mean 2 offend, i just thought you guys may miss out on requests because there are so many ^.^
[03:02] <BluesKaj> some ppl need instant gratification, eagles0513875 :)
[03:03] <BluesKaj> fritz, have you rebooted since the install ?
[03:03] <eagles0513875> lol that is so wrong
[03:03] <fritz> mnope..kept looking in system settings....i'm dumb I know :))
[03:03] <fritz> will do that just now:)
[03:03] <eagles0513875> fritz only reason i said that i didnt want u to spam urself out of the channel
[03:03] <eagles0513875> not spam i meant flood
[03:04] <BluesKaj> try the reboot the new version should pop up a set up dialog
[03:04] <fritz> thnx apreciate it ^.^
[03:04] <eagles0513875> good luck with kde4
[03:04] <eagles0513875> r the kde4 pkgs in the repositories
[03:04] <fritz> restarting 2 check out kde 4 :D
[03:04] <eagles0513875> fritz
[03:04] <fritz> ?
[03:04] <eagles0513875> r the pkgs in the repositories
[03:05] <fritz> ...i'm not sure...i did a basic pakage install...so everything should be fine...right?
[03:05] <eagles0513875> nm found them in the repositories lol
[03:05] <fritz> :)
[03:05] <fritz> rebooting:)
[03:06] <eagles0513875> good luck
[03:06] <BluesKaj> be the first on your block ...    :>)
[03:06] <dadan> !crossover office
[03:07] <daquino> eagles0513875: fiesty
[03:07] <eagles0513875> ok there should be a lil battery near ur clock on bottom right
[03:07] <Gerrit> Wat program is responsible for the intelligent tab completion that makes that if I type 'latex <tab>' it shows *.tex? Where is this configured?
[03:08] <eagles0513875> that is the power manager that should be what tells u when ur battery is low if its not there u accidentally closed out of it and told it not to start at start up
[03:08] <eagles0513875> the program that u need to start is called power manager
[03:09] <fritz> well nothing....i installed everything from adept...but it's still exactly the same:(
[03:09] <daquino> eagles0513875:  no shit...
[03:10] <daquino> i said "WE NEED A WARNING"
[03:10] <daquino> it doesn't tell you when your battery is about to die it just dies....
[03:10] <Simeon_H> what?
[03:10] <Simeon_H> mine tells me
[03:10] <daquino> oh it jumps up and says , "dude your battery is low plug in the power!" ?
[03:10] <BluesKaj> fritz , did you check your login menu?
[03:10] <eagles0513875> yes daquino
[03:10] <daquino> mine just dies
[03:10] <Simeon_H> right click, choose configure Klaptop
[03:11] <Simeon_H> and go to the low battery warning tab
[03:11] <fritz> ummm...no....i'm a newb...darn it
[03:11] <daquino> all i get is a power management window
[03:11] <Simeon_H> is Klaptop installed?
[03:11] <BluesKaj> fritz, it may not be there
[03:11] <daquino> and i dont get that option when i right click
[03:12] <fritz> well i installed it from adept...so what can be wrong...:-/
[03:12] <eagles0513875> fritz
[03:12] <BluesKaj> fritz, check konq , help, about kde
[03:12] <dadan> !aero
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aero - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <daquino> well i have a power symbol ... what else could it be !
[03:12] <eagles0513875> run sudo apt-get update and see if it finds any updated pkgs
[03:12] <eagles0513875> look under battery powered in there
[03:12] <dhome> whats the big difference bet Ubuntu and Kubuntu(except that kubuntu uses KDE instead of GNOME)
[03:13] <eagles0513875> nm
[03:13] <BluesKaj> dadan, no blasphemy please
[03:13] <eagles0513875> that is only difference dhome and some programs r different
[03:13] <eagles0513875> i hate gnome to be honest lol
[03:13] <fritz> how do i know if it did find anything?
[03:13] <dhome> why do you hate it
[03:13] <Simeon_H> I dislike it
[03:13] <eagles0513875> bottow right there is a box with an exclamation
[03:13] <Simeon_H> it made me feel bad after seeing KDE
[03:13] <eagles0513875> i run into more problems with it than i do kde
[03:14] <daquino> guidance-power-...
[03:14] <eagles0513875> kde is actually much better developed
[03:14] <dhome> ah.....
[03:14] <Simeon_H> (I saw KDE first)
[03:14] <BluesKaj> fritz, check konqueror/help/about kde...that will tell you which LDE version
[03:14] <dhome> i never saw gnome lol
[03:14] <BluesKaj> KDE
[03:14] <eagles0513875> lol i dont remember which i saw first
[03:14] <Simeon_H> GNOME just sprouted out of KDE's licencing issues
[03:14] <dhome> this is my first linux
[03:14] <eagles0513875> i remember starting wiht suse 9.0 pro
[03:14] <eagles0513875> stick with kde dude
[03:14] <dhome> thanks for the advice
[03:15] <eagles0513875> fritz
[03:15] <dhome> actually im already planning to download UBUNTU...
[03:15] <dhome> but it changed my mind
[03:15] <dhome> hehehe
[03:15] <Lynoure> dhome: try both, think for yourself :)
[03:15] <dhome> hmmm...
[03:15] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:16] <dhome> lynoure: ill check if when i have time
[03:16] <Lynoure> you do not even need to download whole ubuntu, just ubuntu-desktop.
[03:16] <eagles0513875> how can u log into gnomer if ur running kubuntu does it appeaer when u log in as an option which desktop to log into
[03:16] <dhome> my internet speed su**s :(
[03:17] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:17] <eagles0513875> mines not much better
[03:18] <eagles0513875> the isp im with while im ovr here limits bandwith during the day and only from 11pm to 7am is it unrestricted
[03:18] <eagles0513875> i think my max down speed is 2mb
[03:18] <dhome> wow
[03:18] <eagles0513875> when its not limited like it is now lol
[03:19] <eagles0513875> in the us its faster still lol
[03:19] <fritz> indeed it;s not there..the kde 4...seems like it didn't install after all.......
[03:19] <Simeon_H> I get 64kbps capped :/
[03:19] <dhome> in philippines 2mbps is very very expensive lol
[03:19] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:20] <eagles0513875> in us for decent cable connection its 50usd a month
[03:20] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: gnome appears as an option for a session, if I recall right
[03:20] <Simeon_H> apparently is getting some broadband internet overhaul
[03:20] <Simeon_H> like in fedora?
[03:20] <Simeon_H> errm
[03:20] <Simeon_H> *australia is
[03:20] <eagles0513875> im getting a stable 1mbps down on a torrent im downloading
[03:20] <eagles0513875> in what way
[03:20] <Jucato> !offtopic
[03:20] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:21] <Simeon_H> stfu Jucato
[03:21] <Simeon_H> :D
[03:21] <Simeon_H> uh oh
[03:21] <Lynoure> the things kids think are funny...
[03:21] <Jucato> !stfu
[03:21] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[03:21] <dhome> ooops! im out for a moment.. better get my laundry b4 the shop closes lol
[03:21] <eagles0513875> Lynoure: u would have to install the gnome pkgs no to be able to use it no
[03:22] <Tm_T> oh boy
[03:22] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:22] <aleksanteri> autorejoin
[03:22] <aleksanteri> -.-
[03:22] <eagles0513875> dang hes good lol
[03:22] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: just ubuntu-desktop, one big meta package
[03:22] <fritz> any1 have any udeea what the problem with my kde 4 instalation is...i just regularly installed the package inside the feisty fawn adept
[03:22] <daquino> ok i installed klaptopdaemon
[03:23] <eagles0513875> ok ill have to try that some time
[03:23] <eagles0513875> fritz u know its still alpha right
[03:24] <fritz> know that...don't exactly know what that means ^.^
[03:24] <Tm_T> fritz: it's highly broken
[03:24] <BluesKaj> new and unstable
[03:24] <Tm_T> fritz: that mean,s not for users, but only developers
[03:24] <fritz> aha:-/
[03:24] <Tm_T> !kde4 | fritz
[03:24] <ubotu> fritz: For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[03:24] <Jucato> fritz: unless you plan on helping out, of course :)
[03:24] <fritz> :))
[03:24] <eagles0513875> dont risk unless ur not afriad of reinstalling or developing
[03:25] <Tm_T> well helping covers developing :p
[03:25] <eagles0513875> fritz can program lol
[03:25] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:25] <Jucato> some people think developing == programming only :)
[03:25] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:25] <Tm_T> it's totally wrong
[03:25] <eagles0513875> i know its not like i hate to say this beta tested vista lol
[03:25] <Jucato> but there's also looking for bugs, HIG hunting, etc in this case
[03:25] <Tm_T> testing <3
[03:25] <fritz> one more question if i;m  getting so mutch attention ...^.^..does any1 use virtualbox?
[03:26] <eagles0513875> what is it
[03:26] <Lynoure> Jucato: in beta, bugs hunt you :)
[03:26] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:26] <eagles0513875> when i beta tested vista not many issues
[03:26] <fritz> a prog that creates a virtual machine on which you can run any os
[03:26] <fritz> and i run winxp in it
[03:26] <Jucato> well it's still alpha anyway
[03:26] <eagles0513875> dude just use vmware server
[03:26] <fritz> well it;'s kinda the same thing i thing....
[03:26] <eagles0513875> they have a linux version and its a free download and free to register for the serial number
[03:26] <Jucato> eagles0513875: virtualbox is a (semi-) open source alternative to vmware
[03:26] <fritz> the problem is...
[03:27] <eagles0513875> ahhhhh ok gotcha
[03:27] <eagles0513875> !virtualbox
[03:27] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[03:27] <eagles0513875> does that help u any fritz
[03:27] <Jucato> "with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features." <-- hence the "semi" :)
[03:27] <fritz> the thing is...while running windows vista...it doesen't see any of my hardware...like sound mixers or video card
[03:28] <fritz> i think it's because it's running on the virtual machine created
[03:28] <eagles0513875> that is all goign to be emulated dude
[03:28] <fritz> so the question is does any1 know how i can make it see the hardware on the computer?
[03:28] <eagles0513875> and also if its like vmware ur going to have to set it up to use ur audio hardware
[03:28] <eagles0513875> do u have nat
[03:29] <fritz> nat?
[03:29] <Jucato> virtualized, not emulated :)
[03:29] <eagles0513875> network address translation
[03:29] <fritz> don;t think so...
[03:30] <fritz> but is it possible to make win xp
[03:30] <dhome> is there a software that can run 2 OS at the same time?
[03:30] <Jucato> !virtualization
[03:30] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[03:30] <Jucato> dhome: ayan
[03:30] <Jucato> er... there ^^^
[03:30] <fritz> recognize the hardware?
[03:31] <dhome> jucato: pinoy ka?
[03:31] <Jucato> dhome: yep. but English here please :P
[03:31] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:31] <dhome> hahah
[03:31] <dhome> nice!
[03:31] <Jucato> dhome: we have a local channel. #ubuntu-ph
[03:31] <fritz> so while i;m running windows xp
[03:31] <dhome> thanks!
[03:32] <fritz> it doesen't see
[03:32] <ubuntu> ???
[03:32] <fritz> sound mixers
[03:32] <fritz> can that be solved>
[03:32] <ubuntu>  /nick Husscks
[03:33] <Schuenemann> !glx
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <Schuenemann> !nvidia
[03:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:33] <eagles0513875> !nvidia
[03:33] <Schuenemann> :p
[03:34] <eagles0513875> lol whats wrong Schuenemann
[03:34] <eagles0513875> having trouble installing glx
[03:34] <Schuenemann> I have a brand new installation
[03:34] <Schuenemann> I need to setup this old geforce card
[03:34] <Schuenemann> I remember installing glx-legacy
[03:35] <fritz> can in i make it somehow that the windows guest os on virtualisation can see audiomixers...i really need that..
[03:35] <eagles0513875> i cant really help ya i have a new ati card in my laptop and that is such a b**** to get the fglrx to work on that but thank god i have a how to wiki to help me
[03:35] <eagles0513875> u should be able to i know u can do that on vmware server fritz
[03:36] <fritz> aha...i thin i have something like vmware on automatix for install
[03:36] <fritz> but it says something about registering
[03:36] <eagles0513875> name of the program
[03:37] <fritz> let me see
[03:37] <Schuenemann> As of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) the recommended way to install the binary drivers is to use System ? Administration ? Restricted Devices Manager
[03:37] <Schuenemann> where is this?
[03:37] <Jucato> Schuenemann: that's only for Ubuntu
[03:37] <Schuenemann> hmm
[03:37] <Jucato> for Kubuntu, you do it the old-fashioned way, through Adept or apt-get
[03:37] <fritz> eagles0513875 it's called vm server
[03:38] <fritz> eagles0513875 it's called vmware server
[03:38] <eagles0513875> its worth registering for it
[03:38] <fritz> is it free to register?
[03:38] <eagles0513875> i know its not open source but i know u can get the audio to work
[03:38] <eagles0513875> yes it is
[03:38] <Arwen> is it possible to set one repository to have a higher priority than the others?
[03:38] <Arwen> e.g. Repo A and B have to same package, but I want it from A?
[03:38] <fritz> and then do i install windows xp again on it?
[03:38] <eagles0513875> u would have to edit ur source list
[03:39] <eagles0513875> ya fritz
[03:39] <Arwen> eagles0513875, talking to me?
[03:39] <eagles0513875> arwen u would have to edit ur source list and put in the repositories u want
[03:39] <eagles0513875> yes i am Arwen
[03:39] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic | arwen
[03:39] <ubotu> arwen: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:39] <Arwen> eagles0513875, yes, but I would want both repositories enabled. Say, Repo 1 has packages A and B. But Repo 2 has packages B and C
[03:39] <Arwen> and I need all three, but I want package B from repo 1
[03:40] <Arwen> and please don't gimme that source-o-matic crud
[03:40] <fritz> thnx guys
[03:40] <Jucato> Arwen: yes I believe so. but it's a bit more complicated. try researching about APT
[03:40] <Arwen> hmm
[03:41] <Jucato> Arwen: each package has certain um... levels... I think 500 is for repositories, 100 for .deb packages... in case they have the same level, the newer versions always get priority...
[03:41] <Jucato> not exactly accurate... but that's how I understood them..
[03:41] <Schuenemann> how do I find out my kernel version?
[03:41] <Jucato> Schuenemann: uname -r
[03:41] <Arwen> Schuenemann, uname -r
[03:41] <Schuenemann> thx
[03:42] <Arwen> Jucato, that would be apt pinning right? Only problem is that locks version numbers too.
[03:42] <Jucato> kinda
[03:43] <alaQ> Arwen: you can also pin by repo.
[03:44] <BluesKaj> Tried the gentoo live cd ...wouldn't startx due to my crappy ati card ... that's my message interpretation anyway
[03:44] <eagles0513875> what kind of car BluesKaj
[03:44] <Schuenemann> uh oh, water on keyboard
[03:45] <llutz> hi
[03:45] <BluesKaj> Xpress200G, eagles0513875
[03:45] <eagles0513875> i have the 200m
[03:45] <eagles0513875> radeon xpress 200m  alaq
[03:45] <BluesKaj> yeah, very close ..radeon 400 series
[03:46] <eagles0513875> mine is in a laptop
[03:46] <eagles0513875> i cant even play wow with decent frame rates using wine
[03:46] <alaQ> eagles0513875: yeah.  It's a PITA, mine's in a laptop too.
[03:46] <eagles0513875> pita??
[03:46] <alaQ> eagles0513875: nevermind.
[03:46] <Schuenemann> Jucato, sorry, the tutorial instructions for nvidia only cover ubuntu. Should I do everything for edgy?
[03:46] <BluesKaj> I would have paid more for an nvidia , had I known at the time that i'd be running Linux
[03:47] <Jucato> Schuenemann: yep. for Kubuntu, the same process applies for Edgy and Feisty
[03:47] <alaQ> eagles0513875: that stupid card put me through a lot of troubles.  Especially since ati stopped supporting that card until people complained and demanded support back.
[03:48] <eagles0513875> wow
[03:48] <eagles0513875> next time im buying a laptop it has to have nvidia and intel
[03:48] <eagles0513875> it seems like though for my friend he had an intel chip video card was integrated and it was an intel one and his wireless card worked right out of the box on his machine
[03:49] <Arwen> why nvidia *and* intel?
[03:49] <eagles0513875> nvidia better support intel i dunno y
[03:49] <eagles0513875> wait
[03:49] <Schuenemann> Jucato, huh... it tells me to run a program that I don't seem to have (nvidia-xconfig)
[03:49] <Schuenemann> that was supposed to be donwloaded accordingly to the instructions
[03:50] <Jucato> Schuenemann: did you install the nvidia-glx (or nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx-new) package?
[03:50] <Schuenemann> yes, lgeacy
[03:50] <eagles0513875> Arwen: for my friend open gl worked right out of the box and his wireless card did too
[03:50] <Schuenemann> legacy*
[03:50] <alaQ> I've moved to an all-intel-based laptop now.  The gfx card's a bit slow, but it's not anything to complain about in the least - beryl runs nicely.
[03:50] <eagles0513875> whats the video card alaQ
[03:50] <konrad_> lolo
[03:50] <alaQ> now?  945GM.
[03:51] <eagles0513875> Arwen: kinda funny i have an integrated 200m
[03:51] <Schuenemann> Jucato, if says: "if you're running edgy..."
[03:51] <Jucato> Scha
[03:51] <Jucato> Schuenemann: and?
[03:51] <alaQ> the box I gave to my brother has my integrated 200m.
[03:51] <eagles0513875> my card is 128mb i even decided to share another 128mb of my ram
[03:51] <Schuenemann> if you're running edgy, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:52] <Jucato> Arwen: oh why?
[03:52] <Schuenemann> I don't have that
[03:52] <Arwen> Jucato, to get a non-broken copy
[03:52] <ksivaji> Jucato hi
[03:52] <Jucato> Schuenemann: you installed nvidia-glx-legacy?
[03:52] <Schuenemann> yep
[03:52] <Jucato> hi ksivaji
[03:52] <Jucato> Arwen: how is it broken? :(
[03:52] <eagles0513875> and  after not having open gl for the longest time that is another reason y i woudl go nvidia
[03:52] <Arwen> Jucato, no support for MPEG-4 Part 14 Atoms
[03:52] <Arwen> better known as MP4 tags
[03:52] <Jucato> oh...
[03:53] <alaQ> I don't use OGL apps that much, otherwise the graphics card would play a part in the decision.
[03:53] <Jucato> have you asked in #amarok? is it something that's supposed to be there?
[03:53] <eagles0513875> y use a format that isnt main stream Arwen
[03:53] <Arwen> MPEG-4 *is* mainstream!
[03:53] <Arwen> what do you think Apple sells?
[03:53] <eagles0513875> its only an apple thing
[03:53] <Jucato> Schuenemann: if you installed nvidia-glx-legacy, trye the command "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" not really sure
[03:53] <eagles0513875> that is what i meant by main stream not used by much of anythign or anyone else
[03:53] <eagles0513875> alaQ:
[03:53] <Jucato> eagles0513875: let him use what he has. the question is whether the app supports it in the first place
[03:54] <Arwen> uh... no, eagles0513875, it's been christened by both the ISO and the MPEG as *the* definitive format for audio and video
[03:54] <Schuenemann> Jucato, ok, no output for that
[03:54] <Arwen> ok, don't comment on things you don't know
[03:54] <Jucato> Schuenemann: might have worked then. take note of which file it backed up the original xorg.conf to
[03:54] <eagles0513875> i would honestly love to play wow on here and i need open gl now i just need to figure out wiht some minor tweaks how to improve the frame rates while playing
[03:54] <Schuenemann> Jucato, how?
[03:55] <eagles0513875> or it would be nice if blizzard would have some1 port the game to linux lol
[03:55] <Jucato> Schuenemann: oh it didn't say? hm...
[03:55] <Schuenemann> nope, nothing was outputted
[03:55] <alaQ> Arwen: technically it's not broken, it's just not native to the build yet.  hence the manual build.
[03:55] <Arwen> eagles0513875, actually, there *is* an unofficial linux client
[03:55] <eagles0513875> ?? what u mean Arwen
[03:56] <Arwen> alaQ, no, it's broken. Some stupid high-horses issue with patents and all
[03:56] <Arwen> eagles0513875, there was a linux client in the works, but Blizzard cancelled it. You can still find a leaked build around the net.
[03:56] <Schuenemann> Jucato, xorg.conf still says "nv" instead of "nvidia"
[03:56] <Arwen> or you can use wine
[03:56] <eagles0513875> whats it called u have any idea
[03:56] <alaQ> Arwen: it's just the tag editing, right?
[03:56] <Arwen> eagles0513875, I have no idea either
[03:56] <Jucato> weird.... sorry Schuenemann. I don't have any experience with the -legacy drivers
[03:56] <Arwen> alaQ, and tag *reading*
[03:56] <Schuenemann> Jucato, I think for the legacy ones that command does not work
[03:56] <eagles0513875> its ok dude
[03:57] <Schuenemann> well, let me try to edit it manually
[03:57] <fritz> can any1 tell me where te register 2 get my serial number...cause in automatix it just says "click here to get free serial number" but when i click >>here<< nothing happens
[03:57] <fritz> for the vmware
[03:57] <Arwen> ....
[03:57] <Arwen> there is no automatix in this channel. Automatix sucks.
[03:58] <alaQ> Arwen: did you pull down the dev libraries for mpeg4 for building it?
[03:58] <fritz> .........
[03:58] <Arwen> alaQ, yes
[03:58] <Schuenemann> how can I create a copy of a file in the terminal for the same directory?
[03:58] <Jucato> !automatix | fritz
[03:58] <ubotu> fritz: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:58] <Arwen> libmp4v2
[03:58] <fritz> no no
[03:58] <alaQ> Arwen: and libmp4v2-dev
[03:58] <Arwen> yeah, I implied that
[03:58] <fritz> it installed the software
[03:58] <Arwen> doesn't matter, we don't support it
[03:58] <Jucato> fritz: vmware server?
[03:58] <Arwen> I think you're looking for vmware.com though
[03:58] <fritz> but i don't know where to go to get the serial number
[03:58] <fritz> yeah
[03:58] <Jucato> fritz: you have to register in vmware.com
[03:59] <alaQ> Arwen: all right.  Should be good to go then.  I personally wouldn't classify it as broken, just not built in by default.
[03:59] <Jucato> they will e-mail you your serial number
[03:59] <Arwen> alaQ, I classify features disabled for no good reason as "broken" :-\
[03:59] <fritz> aha:)
[03:59] <Arwen> same with that nonsense about ffmpeg not supporting h264
[03:59] <Jucato> Schuenemann: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[04:00] <fritz> btw, if i can get audio devices working in windows installed on vmware server, do you think i can get my graphics card running 2?
[04:00] <Schuenemann> thx
[04:00] <Schuenemann> again
[04:00] <fritz> so i can play some games on winxp ;))
[04:00] <Jucato> fritz: don't get too many ideas...
[04:00] <Jucato> your hardware in a virtual machine is limited
[04:00] <Arwen> fritz, nope
[04:00] <Arwen> none of the free vmwares support 3d rendering
[04:01] <Jucato> the guest OS (the one running in the virtual machine) will not see your real hardware
[04:01] <fritz> ....
[04:01] <Arwen> and of the payware ones, it's still too slow for any real use
[04:01] <fritz> well lool
[04:01] <Schuenemann> I'll brb (I hope)
[04:01] <Jucato> it will see the hardware that VMWare shows it. which doesn't support 3D rendering
[04:01] <fritz> aha..but it can show audio mixers
[04:01] <Jucato> think of it has having generic, VMWare manufactured hardware
[04:01] <Jucato> same
[04:02] <fritz> same what?
[04:02] <Jucato> same situation
[04:02] <Jucato> it won't see you "real" sound card
[04:02] <fritz> but i will be able to somehow setup windows yahoo messenger
[04:02] <Jucato> Arwen: if it's in a repository and you have deb-src for that repository enabled. yes
[04:03] <Schuenemann> dammit, I'm back to 800x600
[04:03] <Jucato> fritz: if you setup vmware networking properly? yes
[04:03] <fritz> cause i need to make calls on yahoo
[04:03] <Arwen> Jucato, unless of course there's no source available for it
[04:03] <Jucato> Arwen: everything in Ubuntu's repos do
[04:03] <Jucato> main, restricted, universe, multiverse
[04:03] <fritz> does that mean a lot of command in konsole? :-/
[04:04] <Arwen> Jucato, ok
[04:04] <Arwen> hmm, building amarok takes longer than I expected...
[04:04] <Dusk_> what was the package name on kubuntu for playing mp3 files on amarok???
[04:05] <Arwen> libxine1-ffmpeg
[04:05] <Jucato> or libxine-extracodecs (pre-feisty)
[04:05] <Dusk_> thanks Arwen
[04:06] <Dusk_> what i was looking for was that
[04:08] <Schuenemann> omfg... I run kdesu kate xorg.conf and the password box does not appear
[04:09] <Schuenemann> Jucato, give me any ideas, I can't get stuck with this 800x600 :p
[04:09] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:10] <Jucato> !xconfig | Schuenemann
[04:10] <ubotu> Schuenemann: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[04:10] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, nothing...
[04:10] <ubuntu> join sex
[04:10] <Schuenemann> thanks
[04:10] <BluesKaj> in the runbox not the terminal, Schuenemann ..alt+f2
[04:10] <ubuntu> #join sex
[04:11] <Arwen> uh... FAIL
[04:11] <Arwen> learn IRC, that's /join #sex
[04:12] <ninHer> hi all
[04:13] <media> greetings from the dark side
[04:13] <BluesKaj> we don't no darkside in here ...we need light and enlightenment :)
[04:13] <TeraDyne> media: You mean you're running a Mac?
[04:14] <BluesKaj> vista , i bet
[04:14] <media> lol....no making another attempt at getting linuxMCE running on my tv
[04:14] <Schuenemann> Jucato, I think that messed everything up... I see "generic" for everything (keyboard, mouse, video card)
[04:14] <Jucato> :(
[04:14] <TeraDyne> media: O_O; Good luck with that...
[04:15] <media> luck has everything to do with it....have made probably 50 attempts to get some form of mythtv to work....noghting but frustration
[04:16] <Arwen> mencoder*
[04:16] <kristjan_> is anyone aware of nvidia latest drivers repository for feisty fawn?
[04:17] <TeraDyne> Arwen: it's not pirated. They have a podcast
[04:17] <media> aware how kristjan?
[04:17] <Arwen> kristjan_, ...not that I know of, go get it yourself from nvidia.com
[04:17] <Arwen> or stick with the tested versions
[04:17] <TeraDyne> with the eps. I hate laptop keyboards. Too small...
[04:18] <media> hey yurimxpxman....how goes it
[04:18] <yurimxpxman> media: alright
[04:19] <TeraDyne> Speaking of mp3 files, is there an app that lets you change ID3 tags from the terminal?
[04:19] <media> I do tech support for Verizon...hope your not one of the customers who have asked for a supervisor in the past....lol
[04:20] <TeraDyne> media: So you're one of the people standing behind the Verizon guy in the commercials?
[04:21] <Dusk_> !amarok
[04:21] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[04:21] <media> tur: I guess, but I am one of the more frustrated staffers by the overall process of getting cust support
[04:21] <Dusk_> !alsa
[04:22] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:24] <ilja> hello people! i have stupid question:where i must put .PO files? :)
[04:24] <media> oooo....starting to get excited....linuxmce v1.1 seems to be working...I may be able to get away from microhell
[04:27] <ksivaji> my system hangs when i try to open .swf file why ?
[04:28] <BluesKaj> media, MS uses copy protection thru-out it's media center system ... makes it very clunky to use ...even refused to show some jpegs from my pictures on a friend's system
[04:29] <TFrog> anyone have any experience calibrating a Saitek joystick in kubuntu?
[04:29] <dhome> eagles: where can i download mp3 player?
[04:30] <Arwen> dhome, us.archive.ubuntu.com ...
[04:30] <Arwen> !restrictedformats | dhome
[04:30] <ubotu> dhome: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:30] <BluesKaj> so he is investigating Linux Media Center Edition...but I wish him luck ...it's a daunting task for a windows user
[04:30] <dhome> thanks
[04:44] <eagles0513875> !md5sums
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about md5sums - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <fritz> i went on vmware to registrate
[04:45] <fritz> and got to a page where they tell me i have to pay 400$
[04:45] <fritz> :-?
[04:45] <Arwen> you picked the wrong page? lol
[04:45] <Schuenemann> !md5sum
[04:45] <ubotu> To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[04:45] <klap> hi
[04:45] <fritz> what;s the wright one?
[04:46] <Arwen> the vmware server page, not enterprise, not workstation
[04:46] <klap> I have A dude
[04:46] <klap> ARe a spanish channel of ubuntu ?
[04:46] <BluesKaj> !es | klap
[04:46] <ubotu> klap: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:47] <fritz> can you give the link
[04:47] <fritz> >?
[04:47] <klap> oo ty
[04:49] <Schuenemann> can anybody give me a hand setting up a nvidia legacy driver?
[04:49] <klap> yes
[04:49] <klap> i try to help u
[04:50] <Schuenemann> Arwen, =/
[04:50] <Schuenemann> klap, not in spanish, eh?
[04:51] <klap> JAJA no i know
[04:51] <klap> i try to help u in enlgish
[04:52] <Schuenemann> !nvidia | klap
[04:52] <ubotu> klap: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:52] <Schuenemann> I mean this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:52] <klap> ok .. wen i install kbuntu.. the driver for ati WOrks very good y play eVE and WOw
[04:52] <Schuenemann> I do everything written there, but I get a black screen when I restart X
[04:53] <klap> yes?
[04:53] <klap> Black screen ?
[04:53] <Schuenemann> nvidia, not ati
[04:53] <Schuenemann> ues
[04:53] <Schuenemann> yes*
[04:53] <klap> mm let me see
[04:56] <Arwen> GAH, WHY THE HELL DOES GNOME THINK / IS MY TRASH DIR?
[04:56] <Schuenemann> why the hell X thinks I like this black screen?
[04:57] <dhome> help please... eagles still there?
[04:58] <klap> mm i am reading
[04:58] <klap> wait
[04:58] <klap> what is ure model of ATI ?
[04:58] <dhome> my amarok is now playing but i cant hear any sound... :(
[04:58] <klap> NVIdia
[04:58] <klap> sorry
[04:59] <Schuenemann> geforce 256
[04:59] <Schuenemann> (legacy)
[04:59] <klap> model
[04:59] <dhome> anyone please help...
[04:59] <klap> help with ?
[05:00] <Schuenemann> geforce 256 32 MB (it's that legacy driver I already installed)
[05:00] <dhome> my sound device.. i cant hear anything
[05:00] <dhome> but amarok is playing...
[05:00] <Dusk_> dhome: did you play with kmix?
[05:00] <dhome> yes
[05:00] <Dusk_> you just installed the mp3 playing codecs?
[05:00] <dhome> yes
[05:00] <Dusk_> or made an update??
[05:00] <dhome> yes
[05:00] <Dusk_> ok reboot and it will make sound
[05:01] <dhome> i already reboot twice...
[05:01] <klap> MMm ure X Works allways Good.. only put black wen ure upgrade the driveR?
[05:01] <Dusk_> dhome: with which kernel??
[05:02] <dhome> i forgot.. the one in the 1st row..
[05:02] <dhome> ill try to reboot again...
[05:02] <Dusk_> hmmm did you look at the amarok's preferences?? you can choose from engine 'alsa' as sound driver
[05:05] <dhome> no sound still.. :(
[05:05] <Schuenemann> klap, sorry
[05:05] <Schuenemann> when I make that change to xorg.conf
[05:06] <dhome> help please...
[05:06] <dhome> :(
[05:06] <klap> mmmm
[05:06] <klap> the monitor no have Sync?  ..
[05:06] <Dusk_> dhome: do you have sound on kaffeine or else?
[05:06] <klap> Wen u work a mm hi REsolution.. some monitors lost signal or sync
[05:06] <dhome> ill check kaffeine
[05:07] <klap> u use 800 X 600 for standart resolution
[05:07] <Schuenemann> that black screen has a cursor blinking
[05:07] <klap> but i duno whats is the problem Exaclty
[05:07] <dhome> kaffeine has no sound but it plays
[05:08] <klap> yes.. maybe are u working at 1024 or hi res.. and wen u upgrde driver
[05:08] <Dusk_> dhome: then i think your problem is with sound drivers
[05:09] <dhome> maybe... but what should i do to fix it?
[05:09] <Dusk_> reinstall alsa if you want
[05:09] <Dusk_> alsa drivers
[05:09] <dhome> waaaaaaaa
[05:11] <dhome> ill try to install all alsa..
[05:11] <Dusk_> ok
[05:12] <Dusk_> dhome: did you configure amarok??
[05:12] <Dusk_> amarok>configure amarok>engine>
[05:12] <dhome> then?
[05:13] <dhome> output plugin = autodetect
[05:13] <dhome> speaker arrangement = stereo 2.0
[05:14] <dhome> sound engine=xine engine
[05:14] <dhome> sound system=xine engine
[05:14] <shookie> how do i make my firewall, located in /etc/firehol/firehol.sh, boot automatically. (Wasn't an package install)
[05:15] <karthikp_> Add it to your autostart
[05:15] <karthikp_> Which, I think is located in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[05:16] <karthikp_> You just need to link it up symbolically (ln -s)
[05:16] <karthikp_> Place the link there and you're done!
[05:16] <shookie> has to start at init level
[05:17] <shookie> but im unsore
[05:17] <shookie> sure
[05:17] <shookie> can i link it to /etc/rc2.d
[05:17] <dhome> no sound.............................
[05:17] <karthikp_> Placing a link to it in the autostart will start it when you log in, I think.
[05:18] <shookie> it needs to be in rc1.d rc2.d rc3.d rc4.d and rc5.d
[05:18] <shookie> i need it to start at boot
[05:18] <karthikp_> Hmm, above my level, I'm afraid! :)
[05:18] <dhome> HELP PLEASE.. no sound
[05:18] <karthikp_> @dhome: Did you try alsamixer?
[05:19] <shookie> ok... thanks for the assist.
[05:19] <karthikp_> Fire up a terminal and type in alsamixer
[05:19] <karthikp_> This will bring up a bunch of sliders that allow you to adjust volume.
[05:20] <karthikp_> Sometimes (happened to me in my first install) something's muted and you don't get sound.
[05:20] <dhome> karthikp: they are all in max volume
[05:21] <karthikp_> How about System Settings > Sound System?
[05:21] <dhome> enable the sound system is checked
[05:21] <karthikp_> Set the audio device to autodetect
[05:21] <dhome> its already on autodetect
[05:22] <karthikp_> Test sound doesn't do much, eh?
[05:22] <shookie> what is in side the files located in rc2-5.d
[05:22] <othernick> hi
[05:22] <shookie> is it a simple script?
[05:22] <mneisen> Hi, I have a "little" :-) problem with a kernel upgrade (nothing self-compiled!). The kernel upgrade was interrupted by a network problem. After reconnection, I get the error message "unable to create `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic': No space left on device" when I type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. I habe two partitions: /boot (100M free) and / (150G free). Hay anybody any idea?! Thanks in advance!
[05:23] <dhome> no sound still
[05:23] <dhome> :(
[05:23] <Dusk_> i can't get 3d acceleration support
[05:23] <shookie> can i put something like S19firehol in rc2.d and the contents be #!/bin/sh ... /path/to/script
[05:23] <julien> Hello
[05:23] <julien> Good afternoon
[05:23] <othernick> i'm using amarok on kubuntu dapper, and I cant find libxine-extracodecs on my repositories, any clue?
[05:23] <bumzo> what are thw new features
[05:24] <othernick> I just want to install it but it seems its not there
[05:24] <julien> othermick: did you delete the '#' in your sources.list ?
[05:24] <julien> in front of the 'universe' lines
[05:24] <othernick> yes
[05:24] <julien> oops
[05:24] <julien> apt-get update ?
[05:24] <othernick> i idnt delete it... i just enabled it
[05:25] <othernick> apt get cant find it also
[05:25] <julien> yes, I don't know how to tell it in english ;)
[05:25] <karthikp_> @ julien: Perhaps someone can translate here
[05:25] <julien> dpkg -l '*libxine*' ?
[05:26] <othernick> i'm using pt.archive.
[05:26] <othernick> julien, i dont seem to have it downloaded, but i will try that
[05:26] <karthikp_> @othernick: Just see if there's a line like this in your /etc/apt/sources.list:
[05:27] <karthikp_> deb <some address> feisty universe
[05:27] <julien> don't forget to go into dselect and update your packages list
[05:27] <karthikp_> Or replace feisty by your version.
[05:27] <othernick> no, I'm using dapper
[05:27] <karthikp_> Okay, dapper, then.
[05:27] <karthikp_> deb <> dapper universe
[05:28] <othernick> http://pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[05:28] <karthikp_> Or perhaps, deb <> dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[05:28] <zoohouse> Hello everyone
[05:28] <mneisen> Hi, I have a "little" :-) problem with a kernel upgrade (nothing self-compiled!). The kernel upgrade was interrupted by a network problem. After reconnection, I get the error message "unable to create `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic': No space left on device" when I type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. I habe two partitions: /boot (100M free) and / (150G free). Hay anybody any idea?! Thanks in advance!
[05:29] <othernick> my list is updated
[05:29] <julien> Please, please, please, can you tell me why everytime, since I've Feisty installed, always crash with the "signal 11" message ?
[05:29] <julien> all my applications close
[05:29] <zoohouse> I have to print out street maps for a few zipcode in FL. I have a question. Is there any project out there for Linux that it is for street maps? Microsoft has a product called Street Planner, is there a open source map project out there? Thanks
[05:30] <julien> before, it was my computer that always froze
[05:30] <karthikp_> Okay, now just do sudo apt-get update
[05:30] <karthikp_> And then sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:30] <julien> Does mappy works for FL ?
[05:30] <julien> mappy.com ?
[05:30] <Minataku> zoohouse: Just use Google Maps
[05:31] <karthikp_> Note that all this could have been done graphically, but command-line nostalgia takes us back to the CLI everytime...
[05:31] <karthikp_> :)
[05:31] <Minataku> karthikp_: Nah, it's the fact that the CLI is a better, more efficient way of doing things
[05:31] <julien> Please, nobody can tell me why all my applications crash after 5 minutes with the "Signal 11" error message ?
[05:31] <zoohouse> Minataku: I suppose I can use google maps but I was hoping there might be something like Street Planner where I can incert landmarks and what not all in the same app
[05:32] <karthikp_> Depends. If you can do the same thing without scaring newbies, it makes the graphical way a nice way, too.
[05:32] <Minataku> julien: Why, no. What it means... Ack.
[05:32] <Minataku> julien: If everything is getting SIGSEGV it means something is wrong
[05:32] <Minataku> julien: Test your RAM
[05:32] <Minataku> It may be bad
[05:32] <julien> Yes, it's the SIGSEGV
[05:32] <julien> My ram ?
[05:32] <karthikp_> memtest option
[05:33] <julien> I have a 1024 sdram + a 256
[05:33] <julien> It works with wind*wz
[05:33] <Minataku> Windows probably ignores them
[05:33] <othernick> can you check for me that libxine-extracodecs is on pt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu ?
[05:33] <julien> haaaa okaaay
[05:33] <Minataku> In an ironic twist, Windows' poor coding helps it work sometimes with bad RAM
[05:34] <Minataku> If the RAM tests okay, reinstall
[05:34] <Minataku> Linux, that is
[05:34] <Minataku> Something may have gone wrong
[05:34] <othernick> or give me a substitute line for daper repositories pleas
[05:34] <karthikp_> Use the us repos.
[05:34] <karthikp_> Just replace pt by us
[05:34] <julien> I see "libxine-extracodecs     1.1.4-2ubuntu3" with dpkg -l but I don't know in which archive it is
[05:34] <othernick> what will I have to change and where?
[05:35] <karthikp_> sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:35] <julien> So, I try to remove the 256 Mo ram, just leave the 1024 and try my computer ?
[05:35] <karthikp_> Press 'i' to go into insert mode.
[05:35] <Minataku> karthikp_: nano
[05:35] <Minataku> Don't use vim
[05:35] <othernick> cant I change it on adept?
[05:35] <karthikp_> Aww, c'mon!
[05:36] <karthikp_> Yup.
[05:36] <Minataku> That's the kind of thing that scares people away
[05:36] <karthikp_> Fire up adept.
[05:36] <othernick> i have it open
[05:36] <karthikp_> Go to Manage repositories or something like that.
[05:36] <othernick> already there
[05:36] <julien> Ok I disconnect just to remove my 256 memory and come back
[05:36] <Minataku> Heck, I'm an experienced Linux user, running Gentoo no less, and I can't stand vim
[05:36] <Minataku> Or vi, or any clone of said
[05:36] <othernick> cant see anything to change repositories country
[05:37] <karthikp_> Okay. go to the third parties tab, I suppose and click add.
[05:37] <othernick> cant I use something like an application, I remmember I had something like some kid of apt-setup on console
[05:38] <karthikp_> What d'you know! the example gives it right.
[05:38] <karthikp_> Just replace the 'main' with 'universe multiverse'
[05:38] <karthikp_> And you should be done.
[05:39] <karthikp_> Wait a sec.
[05:39] <karthikp_> On the Kubuntu software tab, there's a pull down menu for choosing the country.
[05:39] <othernick> ok
[05:39] <karthikp_> Choose other.
[05:39] <karthikp_> Pick the US one.
[05:39] <karthikp_> Should be done.
[05:39] <othernick> i cant see that
[05:40] <othernick> using dapper here
[05:40] <karthikp_> Ah.
[05:40] <karthikp_> sudo vim (or nano) /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:41] <julien> re
[05:41] <karthikp_> Add another line for universe multiverse.
[05:41] <julien> Well, I just leave on memory of 1 Go
[05:41] <karthikp_> Like Minataku said, CLI *is* more powerful... :)
[05:41] <julien> Let's see if it crashes again
[05:41] <karthikp_> Though I still like vim
[05:41] <mneisen> Hi, I have a "little" :-) problem with a kernel upgrade (nothing self-compiled!). The kernel upgrade was interrupted by a network problem. After reconnection, I get the error message "unable to create `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic': No space left on device" when I type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. I habe two partitions: /boot (100M free) and / (150G free). Hay anybody any idea?! Thanks in advance!
[05:42] <karthikp_> Someone should help mneisen...
[05:42] <othernick> the new line is after all that is there?
[05:42] <karthikp_> Doesn't matter. Add it at the end. No biggie.
[05:43] <Dusk_> i need to open 3d support..please can anyone help me?
[05:43] <Dusk_> i installed the drivers but i can't get 3d acc support
[05:43] <karthikp_> They always come in pairs. One for the deb and the other for the source code (?)...
[05:43] <Minataku> Heh
[05:44] <Acolyte> hi all
[05:45] <mneisen> karthikp_: Thanks for noticing me ... :-)
[05:47] <karthikp_> Okay, peace out, people!
[05:48] <tucci> I downloaded a program that's not in any repository, but I can't figure out how to open it. I've got the bin file but nothing happens when i click on it
[05:50] <Dusk_> i installed the drivers but i can't get 3d acc support
[05:50] <Dusk_> i need to open 3d support..please can anyone help me?
[05:52] <martik> KUBUNTU ROCKS
[05:53] <coreymon77> martik: indeed it does
[05:53] <bsiva> hi any one form sinagpoe
[05:53] <martik> :d
[05:53] <martik> :D
[05:53] <martik> I should write a song about Kubuntu
[05:54] <martik> Like a rock n roll
[05:54] <martik> based on 12 bar blues
[05:54] <Dusk_> martik: if you help me i will play drums in your song
[05:54] <Dusk_> martik: but i can't get 3d acc support :(
[05:54] <martik> :(
[05:55] <MaTiAz> martik: Make the song opensource :)
[05:56] <martik> haha
[05:56] <martik> :)
[05:56] <martik> *picks up electric fiddle*
[05:56] <martik> *r'n'r riff*
[05:59] <martik> X.X
[05:59] <martik> ~.~
[05:59] <martik> #.#
[05:59] <martik> @.@
[06:05] <cs5> can someone help me please I am installing ATI drivers for an All-in-wonder but I dont know how to logon as superuser
[06:06] <mneisen> Hi, I have a "little" :-) problem with a kernel upgrade (nothing self-compiled!). The kernel upgrade was interrupted by a network problem. After reconnection, I get the error message "unable to create `./boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic': No space left on device" when I type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". I have two partitions: /boot (100M free) and / (150G free). Has anybody any idea?! Thanks in advance!
[06:06] <TeraDyne> !sudo | cs5
[06:06] <ubotu> cs5: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:06] <cs5> so instead of sh use sudo?
[06:06] <cs5> ty for the link
[06:07] <TeraDyne> cs5: no problem
[06:08] <allspiritseve> Is there any way to restore a broken kubuntu install without losing all programs installed?
[06:10] <mat1980> allspiritseve: I guess it dipends on how much it's broken. What happend?
[06:10] <Dusk_> isn't there anyone who is with radeon card and have direct rendering:on???
[06:10] <Dusk_> when i write fglrxinfo i get a
[06:10] <Dusk_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:10] <Dusk_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:10] <Dusk_> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!
[06:10] <Dusk_> message
[06:11] <TeraDyne> !pastebin | Dusk_
[06:11] <allspiritseve> I'm not quite sure, something with fsck, but I can't start up anymore. I can get past Grub, but I get errors soon after
[06:11] <ubotu> Dusk_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:11] <Dusk_> sorry :(
[06:11] <mat1980> Dusk_: if I remember right, you should disable glx with driver fglrx
[06:11] <TeraDyne> mat1980: I was just about to mention that. LOL
[06:12] <andy__> hi when the new version of kubuntu is released i,e ribe 1 eill fiesty automatically upgrade?
[06:12] <julius> Does the KDE msn client use webcam?
[06:12] <andy__> *tribe
[06:12] <Dusk_> but how??
[06:12] <mat1980> TeraDyne: :)
[06:12] <Dusk_> i really tried hard to open 3d acc support
[06:12] <andy__> hi Dusk_di what i told you sort your monitor out?
[06:12] <TeraDyne> julius: which client?
[06:12] <mat1980> Dusk_: have you tried to look at ubotu?
[06:13] <mat1980> !ati ! Dusk_
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati ! dusk_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <TeraDyne> XD
[06:13] <mat1980> !ati | Dusk_
[06:13] <ubotu> Dusk_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:13] <Dusk_> heh :)
[06:13] <Dusk_> mat1980: no way..
[06:13] <Dusk_> mat1980: none happened
[06:13] <andy__> !life
[06:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <allspiritseve> mat1980: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27138/ these are the errors I get
[06:14] <andy__> !42
[06:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 42 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:14] <andy__> !being analy gang raped
[06:14] <Minataku> !botabuse
[06:14] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[06:14] <TeraDyne> !botabuse | andy__
[06:14] <ubotu> andy__: please see above
[06:14] <mat1980> allspiritseve: on doing what? sorry, I don't remember a conversation with you..
[06:15] <julius> TeraDyne:  i think it was called kopete or something, the stock standard msn client  for kde
[06:15] <Dusk_> how can i disable glx drivers with fglrx drivers?
[06:15] <runlevelten> Did someone ask how to keep package selection across installs?
[06:15] <allspiritseve> if you look back a couple lines ago, it was about 5 minutes
[06:15] <TeraDyne> julius: there is a video device settings section in the settings, but I'm not sure if the MSN plugin uses it. Let me check.
[06:16] <mat1980> Dusk_: edit /etc/X11/xorg.con and comment the line with "glx".
[06:16] <runlevelten> heh, it was before the phone rang :)
[06:16] <Dusk_> mat1980: if i paste my xorg.conf can you help me?
[06:16] <julius> TeraDyne: Ty
[06:16] <runlevelten> save your packages if you have third party ones, obviously, and do:
[06:17] <mat1980> Dusk_: I'll try.
[06:17] <runlevelten> dpkg --get-selections > installedlist.text
[06:17] <runlevelten> save the file, then on the new system, do dpkg --set-selections < installedlist.text
[06:18] <runlevelten> hi btw, first visit to this channel ever :)
[06:18] <mat1980> allspiritseve: ok, now I've found your previous post. Uhm... no idea. Sorry.
[06:18] <TeraDyne> julius: Yes, Kopete dies support webcams for MSN
[06:18] <TeraDyne> does* Whoos.
[06:18] <TeraDyne> I hate laptop keyboards
[06:19] <allspiritseve> mat1980: well, I'm just wondering if it's possible to repair my installation, maybe transfer files onto the hard drive or something?
[06:19] <Dusk_> mat1980: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27139/
[06:19] <runlevelten> allspiritseve: do the above, and back up your home directory. All being well, it should work just fine.
[06:20] <allspiritseve> the backing up of my apps? How do I do that if I can't get to a command line?
[06:20] <julius> TeraDyne: ty
[06:22] <runlevelten> well, assuming it's not a running machine you can shell into, you could try booting the machine into knoppix or something then chroot into the installation
[06:23] <allspiritseve> runlevelten: I have a 6.10 live cd I can boot on, how would I chroot into the installation?
[06:23] <allspiritseve> runlevelten: i can mount it just fine, and access the files.
[06:23] <klap> How is the spanish channel ?
[06:23] <mat1980> Dusk_: uhm... you already have no glx entry...
[06:24] <klap> #esubuntu
[06:24] <Tm_T> !es | klap
[06:24] <ubotu> klap: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:24] <klap> no no are esubuntu :S
[06:24] <Dusk_> mat1980: do i miss a lib you think??
[06:26] <mat1980> Dusk_: no, I don't think so.
[06:26] <mat1980> Dusk_: have you restarted x-server?
[06:26] <Dusk_> mat1980: several times
[06:28] <mat1980> Dusk_: don't know.... what is the output of command       lsmod | grep glx
[06:28] <cs5> Hi, me again, I successfully installed my drivers, ty for the sudo help.I have minor corruption in my cursor on monitor 2, is this due to monitor issues or possibly ati proprietary drivers? any h
[06:28] <allspiritseve> obutu: como usas las letras con acentos con su 'keyboard'?
[06:29] <cs5> also maxed windows on monitor 1 are partial, they dont extend to even 1/2 way across mon 1
[06:29] <Dusk_> mat1980: no output :/
[06:30] <mat1980> Dusk_: ok, it's right. Or I guess it should be. Uhm... no idea.
[06:31] <Dusk_> mat1980: ok..thanks for your helps
[06:31] <cs5> nm, going to restart with lower display settings and see what happens ill be back
[06:31] <Dusk_> mat1980: i will restart again..maybe this time..
[06:32] <julius> How do i edit the startup applications in kde?
[06:33] <Timsen> hi, I am looking for a service which monitors a specific directory (for example /etc) for changes and if a file will be modified I want to be notified, by e-mail sommedbody any suggestion I should have a look on?
[06:34] <kharloss> hi there. i bought a mainboard and a case . i read how to insert wires for system panel ( restart button, power button, hdd led, etc ) my question is : how do I know polarity of those wires  ?
[06:34] <coreymon77> Timsen: im not really sure, but jsut curious, what is this for?
[06:34] <mat1980> Dusk_: probably I was wrong... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=310181
[06:34] <julius> colour is +
[06:34] <julius> white is neg
[06:34] <julius> doesnt matter for switches
[06:34] <julius> and for speaker red is + black is neg :P
[06:35] <tucci> I need to install libmozjs, but Adept says it can't download the package or the commit would break packages. Anyone have any idea?
[06:35] <pupeno_> Hello.
[06:36] <cs5> well still corruption, can anyone help with ati and display drivers
[06:36] <Timsen> coreymon77: we administrate a single server with 3 guys, I just want to be informed if the others change service critical settings
[06:36] <BluesKaj> cs5 , which ati card?
[06:36] <pupeno_> I am having trouble geting an IP from a DHCP server... most of the times it doesn't work, some times it works. I've tried disabling avahi, but eth0:avahi is still created. Does anybody know about this?
[06:37] <Timsen> pupeno_: over cable or wlan network?
[06:37] <llutz> Timsen: dnotify
[06:37] <cs5> ati all-in-wonder 9600
[06:38] <BluesKaj> tvcard
[06:38] <cs5> i got this error in the instal log...yes tv card
[06:38] <pupeno_> Timsen: what do you mean by over cable?
[06:38] <cs5> [Message]  Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.
[06:38] <cs5> [Message]  Kernel Module : Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.
[06:38] <cs5> [Error]  Kernel Module : No kernel module build environment - please consult readme.
[06:38] <Timsen> llutz: thanks, that sounds I am looking for
[06:38] <cs5> reinstal?
[06:38] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | cs5
[06:38] <ubotu> cs5: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:38] <pupeno_> Timsen: I've tried with two different wlan devices and on a lan.
[06:38] <cs5> ok, ty
[06:40] <tucci> I need to install libmozjs, but Adept says it can't download the package or the commit would break packages. Anyone have any idea?
[06:40] <BluesKaj> ok cs5 , first of all in the terminal type : sudo aptitude install build-essential
[06:41] <Timsen> pupeno_: did you check the entires of /etc/network/interfaces and that they match your needs?
[06:41] <Dusk_> BluesKaj: do you have ati radeon cartd?
[06:41] <pupeno_> Timsen: yes.
[06:41] <cs5> is installing 40+ packages
[06:42] <BluesKaj> yeah Dusk_  an onboard ati xpress200G.. but i also have a tvwonder pro tvcard as well
[06:43] <Timsen> pupeno_: are there other network components in the lan which serves a IP by the dhcp server?
[06:43] <Dusk_> BluesKaj: i couldn't get 3d support..if you had radeon9600 i would like your help
[06:44] <pupeno_> Timsen: with the two wlan devices, the network was only the wlan device and my computer (not even a switch or hub... just a cross-cable), and now I don't know what else is on the network... it is a huge corporate network.
[06:46] <cs5> cs5 will be right bback he had to take his son to school
[06:47] <tucci> In Adept Manager, j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin is listed as broken. Would it be good for me to remove it and reinstall?
[06:48] <BluesKaj> Dusk the ati radeon 9600 uses the same linux drivers as my card does ... check this site for a tutorial that works  : http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[06:49] <BluesKaj> BBL ... gotta cut the grass :(
[06:50] <enry> hi
[06:51] <kharloss> hi there. i bought a mainboard and a case . i read how to insert wires for system panel ( restart button, power button, hdd led, etc ) my question is : how do I know polarity of those wires  ?
[06:52] <Dusk_> thanks BluesKaj
[06:53] <cs5> blueskaj, is at prompt again after setting up
[06:54] <cs5> alot of predeselected packages were installed, ty. Should i restart xserver? or the whole system?
[06:55] <ksivaji> hi
[06:55] <genii> kharloss: Almost always the wire which is not black is the + wire
[06:56] <BluesKaj> cs5 , the prob is not with your tv tuner card cuz it doesn't do the video , it merely tunes in a signal decodes it to digital and dumps it off to the graphics card for further processing
[06:56] <Timsen> pupeno_: occours any error if you restart the network manually by sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[06:57] <BluesKaj> cs5, so what is your graphics card ?
[06:57] <cs5> yeah ati said i probably wouldnt have use of the Media center aspects of the card I just want the dual monitor to work proper ATI all-in-wonder 9600
[06:57] <cs5> got the linux drivers from them but corrupted graphics
[06:58] <cs5> i have corrupted cursor on monitor 2 and maxed windows on monitor 1 are partial windows
[06:59] <BluesKaj> cs5, so this card is a tuner/graphics  then ?
[06:59] <cs5> yes tv in and out, dual monitor cable, etc.
[06:59] <BluesKaj> I'm trying to figure out what drivers need to be fixed
[07:00] <cs5> ok
[07:00] <cs5> ty
[07:00] <Dusk_> is there a program on kubuntu to limit the downloading or uploading speed?
[07:01] <cs5> should i pastebin the results of the previous commands you asked me to run?
[07:01] <genii> Well time to return to work
[07:03] <cs5> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27141/
[07:07] <Timsen> Dusk_: wondershaper is eventually interessting for you
[07:08] <Dusk_> Timsen: what's it??
[07:08] <Timsen> and to have a look on the currently used bandwith on the system jnettop is a very nice tool
[07:10] <Dusk_> Timsen: thanks
[07:10] <BluesKaj> cs5, do a , :  lspci | grep video
[07:11] <cs5> lol, sry you lost me
[07:12] <cs5> im googleing...lol
[07:14] <bthoem> Any client in/ for Ubuntu supporting direct connection to WinXP remote desktop?
[07:16] <ina> Hello everybody! I have a question abaout a programm called Wxmusik
[07:16] <ina> I made a .deb which is installed no warnings
[07:16] <ina> but I can't see anything in a nebu
[07:16] <ina> menu
[07:17] <Timsen> eventually you can start it from the console by wxmusik ?
[07:18] <BluesKaj> cs5, in the terminal type,  lspci | grep video
[07:18] <lyam> what is the default runlevel path?
[07:19] <BluesKaj> or copy & paste , cs5
[07:19] <cs5> i have and i get nothing, just next prompt
[07:19] <lyam> what is the default runlevel directory?
[07:20] <BluesKaj> cs5 you don't get any output all ?
[07:20] <cs5> none
[07:21] <cs5> lspci | grep video
[07:21] <cs5> cs5@COT-CS5:~$ lspci | grep video
[07:21] <cs5> cs5@COT-CS5:~$
[07:21] <BluesKaj> ok  ' lspci '  without the quotes
[07:22] <cs5> that gave me lots
[07:22] <BluesKaj> ok copy and paste in pastebin pls
[07:23] <cs5> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27143/
[07:28] <BluesKaj> ok cs5 , you need to check system settings/monitor&display/hardware ...what's listed beside the graphics card driver and also Monitors/s
[07:29] <cs5> ati radeon (fglrx)
[07:29] <zombielion> im having a problem im new to kubuntu but i have found things i want to download in the adept manager but everything says break install what can i do
[07:29] <cs5> and plug n play on both monitors
[07:30] <cs5> there is a vesa driver I assume for the tv out under it unused beside monitor
[07:31] <wes> people i'm trying to install limewire-basic but I when install it show up "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6" What should I do?
[07:32] <zombielion> i would use frostwire
[07:32] <cs5> zombielion is that the eqivalent of limewire?
[07:32] <zombielion> i know it is the same thing just about but you get the pro version of limewire in frostwire for free
[07:32] <wes> them how can i install it? *frostwire*
[07:33] <cs5> kewl
[07:33] <wes> for apt same?
[07:33] <zombielion> you know the pro version they have for 20 or whatever you get that free with frostwire and you can download torrents in it now
[07:34] <zombielion> just go to frostwire.com and it will give you info on how to install
[07:34] <wes> ah thanks..
[07:34] <zombielion> you need java i think all you do is download a deb file and install it but for a long time i couldnt get it to work till i figured out i didnt have java so you will need that
[07:34] <wes> same I updating my libs continues giving this error =/
[07:37] <wes> i was seeing on the frost's... site will be that someone pays contributions to them?
[07:37] <Lunar_Lamp> Is there a good application for drawing flow charts etc?
[07:37] <zombielion> ya "someone" not me
[07:37] <joe4288> hi im have a few little anoying problems
[07:37] <zombielion> just click no thanx
[07:37] <wes> xD neither do I
[07:37] <joe4288> first is every time i open azurues it just closes agian
[07:37] <joe4288> it wond stay open
[07:37] <wes> yeah i do it
[07:38] <cs5> BluesKaj is it looking bleak for me?
[07:38] <BluesKaj> cs5, lets check your fglrx driver
[07:38] <zombielion> isnt that for torrent
[07:38] <joe4288> yes
[07:38] <cs5> ok
[07:38] <Lunar_Lamp> joe4288, do you get an error message? What id you open if from the command line by typing "azureus"?
[07:38] <wes> azureus is a great torrent program
[07:38] <joe4288> nah the k menu
[07:38] <zombielion> i use utorrent it is small and prowerful but i dont like that i have to use wine to use it
[07:38] <joe4288> but ill try the command
[07:38] <joe4288> and i get no error
[07:38] <BluesKaj> cs5,type fgl_glxgears
[07:38] <Lunar_Lamp> joe4288, try opening it from the command line so we can see if you get an error message there :-)
[07:38] <joe4288> it starts up then just dissapears
[07:39] <Hrontore> Is last.fm a supported program?
[07:39] <Lunar_Lamp> There will be info printed to the terminal you open it in - whichy you will probably see errors in - try pasting them onto the www.pastebin.ca site.
[07:39] <joe4288> ok i got an error i think
[07:39] <wes> i've ever used it on the windows =o (azureus)
[07:39] <joe4288> ill paste bin it
[07:39] <cs5> should i just edit the pevious pastebin or start a new one?
[07:40] <joe4288> ok heres what came up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27146/
[07:40] <cs5> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27147/
[07:41] <Lunar_Lamp> joe4288, well, that's not good.  How did you instlal it?
[07:41] <joe4288> i installed azureus with the kubuntu installer
[07:41] <joe4288> same with java
[07:41] <joe4288> im thinking its a java issue
[07:41] <Lunar_Lamp> Hmm
[07:41] <wes> wow frostwire alread is installed but it didnt open =O
[07:42] <wes> y*
[07:42] <joe4288> because when im using ebay in firefox (havnt tried knoqurure)
[07:42] <zombielion> no java
[07:42] <zombielion> you need java
[07:42] <joe4288> it will log me off after a little
[07:42] <Lunar_Lamp> I'm afraid I don't know, but I've never used azureus for more than a few mins (as I find it slow, and prefer the command line speed of rtorrent)
[07:42] <joe4288> i have java
[07:42] <zombielion> i had that problem for like 2 months till i was like duh
[07:42] <wes> ya i kno, but i already installed it yesterday :S ya i'll try again..
[07:42] <Lunar_Lamp> joe4288, you might have the wrong java :-/
[07:42] <joe4288> i have java 6
[07:42] <wes> yeah can be =/
[07:43] <BluesKaj> cs5 , ok i think if you do the same tutorial as i did , you will get 3D and Direct rendering on your displays , but first I would do a search for the linux drivers for your monitors in order to make things work as well as possible
[07:43] <joe4288> well in debian i had to make my java
[07:43] <joe4288> are there still the packages here for me to do it agian
[07:43] <joe4288> then for sure ill have the correct java
[07:43] <cs5> ok, ty BluesKaj
[07:43] <BluesKaj> well, not me but you do the search cs5 :)
[07:44] <cs5> the ones i got from ati are latest. Should I check out standard drivers instead?
[07:44] <cs5> lol
[07:44] <wes> on java's site the JDK 6u1 is the correct right?
[07:44] <cs5> nevermind
[07:44] <joe4288> well i didnt get my java from the website
[07:44] <cs5> cant read today, i will look for monitor drivers first then do tutorial, ty
[07:44] <joe4288> i got it from the adepted installer
[07:44] <zombielion> ummm i have no idea where i got the link at i just know tha tis what i needed and i got let me look real fast
[07:45] <Dusk_> i use kernel ati drivers but my direct rendering is no! how can i open it??
[07:45] <cs5> thanks for your time today BluesKaj, judo's from cs5 ;)
[07:45] <cs5> kudo's*
[07:45] <cs5> lmao
[07:45] <lordi_> hy all, got a strange problem: when i tell the system to restart the screen turns black, nothing happens. If i first log out and then restart, evrything is fine. All I installed is apache2, no graphic drivers or something
[07:47] <joe4288> yea im just going to uninstall java and use java-package to install it by hand
[07:47] <Dusk_> lordi_: what about when you are root on konsole and make "reboot" ??
[07:47] <wes> i found for synaptic some packages
[07:47] <joe4288> i think this might fix my problem
[07:48] <ronzo> anyone know of a good audio converter that can convert from m4a to mp3, and other formats? =)
[07:48] <BluesKaj> cs5, this tutorial will help you get your video up and running once you install the monitor drivers  http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[07:48] <zombielion> i think it is java se
[07:49] <lordi_> Dusk_: on console its always no problem
[07:49] <lordi_> Dusk_: only in Gui
[07:49] <Dusk_> lordi_: i have the same prob also
[07:49] <lordi_> Dusk_: maybe its my gf 8800?
[07:49] <Dusk_> lordi_: you have direct rendering on?
[07:50] <lordi_> Dusk_: my old sys has not such problems
[07:50] <lordi_> Dusk_: how can i see that?
[07:50] <lordi_> Dusk_: btw, i got the same problem in debain
[07:51] <Dusk_> lordi_: glxinfo | glep -i "rendering"
[07:51] <zombielion> are there any programs for editing for movies
[07:51] <ronzo> zombielion, kino
[07:51] <ronzo> =)
[07:51] <jussi01> ok, im having a problem with sound on flash... ie. it doesnt work anymore.... anyone tell me how to fix it?
[07:51] <jussi01> !info kino | zombielion
[07:51] <ubotu> zombielion: kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.92-1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 1126 kB, installed size 3912 kB
[07:52] <lordi_> Dusk_: bash: glep: command not found
[07:52] <jussi01> lordi_: i think he meant grep
[07:52] <lordi_> ah
[07:52] <jonathan_> alguien habla espool
[07:52] <zombielion> thanx will the clean up the video and audio or is this just pretty simple
[07:53] <jonathan_> espaol
[07:53] <jussi01> !es | jonathan_
[07:53] <ubotu> jonathan_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:53] <lordi_> Dusk_: its deactivated
[07:53] <cs5> ty again
[07:54] <Dusk_> lordi_: you must activate it by installing drivers
[07:54] <lordi_> Dusk_: the problem is, there are no driver on the nvidia page for gf 8
[07:55] <zombielion> i would like to know why just about everything i want to download off the adept manager says break install
[07:55] <lordi_> Dusk_: for my gf 7 there was one
[07:55] <Dusk_> there's no in here too??
[07:55] <Dusk_> !nvidia | lordi_
[07:55] <ubotu> lordi_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:56] <lordi_> yeah i know but no 8800 in the binaries
[07:57] <Dusk_> hmmm i dunno then..i use radeon garph card
[07:57] <Bllz> how do i uninstall a package from the command line?
[07:57] <ronzo> sudo apt-get remove <package>
[07:57] <lordi_> Dusk_: ok thx anyway
[07:57] <Dusk_> Bllz: sudo apt-get remove package.name
[07:58] <Bllz> ronzo, when you say package is it the application name or the file name of the .deb package?
[07:58] <SunStealth> Hey, has anybody tryed to install acetoneiso2 deb package? I have installed it, finally, but it wont start, just loads then closes down again.
[07:58] <ronzo> Bllz, name of the package. ie, to uninstall amarok, it wouldn't be apt-get remove amarok-mumbojumbo.deb, it would be apt-get remove amarok
[07:59] <Bllz> ronzo, got it. thanks!
[07:59] <ronzo> np. =)
[07:59] <SunStealth> and acetoneiso2 does not seems to support console mode :(
[08:01] <ronzo> anyone know of a good audio converter?
[08:02] <coreymon77> ronzo: apt-cache search is your best friend
[08:02] <Dusk_> ronzo: i know =)
[08:02] <BluesKaj> ronzo, soundKonverter
[08:02] <ronzo> <3 u all
[08:03] <AutoMatriX> hi folks :)
[08:03] <jussi01> so no one has an idea about my flash sound?
[08:03] <jussi01> !hi | AutoMatriX
[08:03] <ubotu> AutoMatriX: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:03] <allspiritseve> Is there any way to install kubuntu through the internet using the boot options on a live cd? (I can't boot into the live cd, issues w/ my laptop)
[08:04] <ronzo> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:04] <jussi01> !netinstall
[08:04] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:04] <AutoMatriX> jussi01: nice
[08:04] <BluesKaj> jussi01, do you have sound on other sites
[08:05] <jhutchins> allspiritseve: There's an alternative cd that will let you handle hardware issues.
[08:05] <zombielion> does anyone use mplayer
[08:05] <jhutchins> zombielion: Yeah, lots.
[08:05] <jussi01> someone give me a flash site with sound to test from...
[08:05] <jussi01> please...
[08:06] <BluesKaj> youtube
[08:06] <jussi01> BluesKaj: nm... i figured it...
[08:06] <jussi01> sorry to have bothered...
[08:06] <zombielion> jhutchins: I cant get a damn thing installed for it not a plugin not mplayer not nothing it is all telling me break install
[08:08] <jhutchins> zombielion: 1) Watch the language, childeren present, 2) pasetbin the whole error message.
[08:10] <Dusk_> i have usb adsl modem and always i need to write "pon ueagle-atm" when i open kubuntu...is there a way to make this command automatic?? i want it to connect automaticly
[08:10] <ronzo> that converter helped...<3 thx all!
[08:13] <wes> huhu i've already been got install java (: but was for sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[08:13] <Dusk_> i have usb adsl modem and always i need to write "pon ueagle-atm" when i open kubuntu...is there a way to make this command automatic?? i want it to connect automaticly
[08:13] <Dusk_> no way for commands at startup??,
[08:13] <wes> did you configure it with pppoeconf? kubuntu should configure it auto'
[08:14] <sparr> clamav in default installations generate a crapload of 'clamav isnt running' and/or 'need to upgrade' warnings via cron output, should that be the case?
[08:15] <BluesKaj> sparr,you don't need it unless you runwindows under wine
[08:16] <BluesKaj> or a vb
[08:16] <jrick> does anyone know how to make J
[08:16] <jrick> sorry
[08:16] <sparr> BluesKaj: or deliver email to windows clients
[08:16] <jrick> does anyone know how to make krusader the default instead of konq?
[08:17] <Tm_T> jrick: hum, and why would you like to do that?
[08:17] <rustalot> can I get a text-completion plugin for kate?
[08:17] <jrick> i don't like konq, and orthodox file managers rock
[08:17] <BluesKaj> even receiving malware from windows clients won't affect linux
[08:18] <zombielion> w32codecs libdvdcss where can i find these files
[08:18] <jussi01> !seveas
[08:18] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:18] <jussi01> zombielion: i think they are in there
[08:18] <Tm_T> jrick: well you can split Konqueror view, let me show you...
[08:18] <frojnd> why would start screen saver even though I am watching movie in full screen mode ??
[08:20] <jrick> Tm_T: yeah, i see the split view feature, but it doesn't have a command line like krusader.
[08:21] <jrick> I would like it if it would automatically open krusader when I click System Menu -> Home or something like that.
[08:21] <Tm_T> jrick: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/Konqueror-split1.png
[08:22] <daquino> why doesn't my usb mouse get auto detected when i plug it in ?
[08:22] <daquino> why do i have to reboot ?
[08:22] <jrick> oooohhhhh oxygen :)
[08:22] <Tm_T> jrick: yaya, anyway, that's Konqueror, split, with konsole
[08:23] <jrick> Tm_T: but how do I get the console like in that screenie?
[08:23] <CJari> hey, can some one help me to get the wireless network card working?
[08:23] <Tm_T> jrick: hum, it's in window menu
[08:23] <Tm_T> "show terminal emulator"
[08:23] <jrick> I don't have a window menu
[08:24] <t2_>  hi,  my mic is not working on kubuntu.. i have full-duplex turned on int kde control center and the mic is not muted in Kmix..  I am testing the mic with Krec audio recorder program and getting no output when i play a recorded sound.  can someone please point me to a simple method as i found 10's of troubleshooting commands on the net i have no idea how to decipher them
[08:25] <Tm_T> jrick: interesting
[08:25] <jrick> I don't see it anywhere
[08:26] <jrick> Tm_T: are you on kubuntu?
[08:26] <Tm_T> sure
[08:26] <jrick> what kde?
[08:26] <Tm_T> KDE 3.5.7
[08:26] <jrick> me too
[08:26] <Tm_T> but I have my modifications, don't know if that is the key
[08:26] <lordi_> t2_: but in other os its ok?
[08:27] <Tm_T> jrick: check shortcut key settings
[08:27] <jrick> where is that?
[08:27] <jrick> nvm
[08:27] <Tm_T> haha
[08:27] <zombielion> does anyone use the dolphin file  manager instead of konqueror
[08:28] <Tm_T> not me
[08:28] <t2_> t2_:  i don't currently have other OS,  but it used to work on windows before
[08:28] <t2_> lordi_:  ^^
[08:28] <jrick> Tm_T: that like opens a window, not a console like in the screenie.
[08:29] <t2_> lordi_: so many things about it on the net i don't know how to narrow things down... it seems like a million diff things could be causing no mic
[08:29] <serhat> hi
[08:29] <lordi_> t2_: but krec shows input?
[08:29] <jrick> Tm_T: orthodox file managers were designed to have close keyboard compatibility and have a shell. (think midnight commander)
[08:30] <t2_> lordi: if is tap the mic hard with my hand it shows some input
[08:30] <t2_> damn keep mistyping stuff
[08:30] <jrick> konq is not an orthodox file manager, no matter how hard it tries to be.
[08:30] <t2_> lordi_: if I tap the mic hard with my hand it shows some input
[08:31] <lordi_> t2_: yeah got it but no idea, tried it with teamspeak?
[08:31] <zombielion> how do i add the seveas pckages to my adept manager repositories
[08:31] <crocodile-> when you have amarok in small player mode, is there some way to add a button to "open" files ???
[08:31] <crocodile-> it seems crazy to me they don't have an open button by default
[08:31] <t2_> lordi_: mic volume in kmix is on max.   is teamspeak a recorder ill go try now from synap
[08:32] <Tm_T> jrick: I know
[08:32] <lordi_> t2_: teamspeak is like voice over ip, to speak with someone. you can test in/output there
[08:32] <jrick> Tm_T: was that screenie from your computer?
[08:32] <Tm_T> jrick: yes
[08:32] <rmullins_> can anyone here give some help for Kopete?
[08:32] <jrick> Tm_T: side question: where did you get your oxygen icons?
[08:33] <Tm_T> jrick: I made them
[08:33] <jrick> ohh.
[08:33] <Tm_T> jrick: well, made them usable in my system anyway
[08:33] <t2_> lordi_: ok just saw it.  so i can use this to test locally
[08:33] <Tm_T> jrick: anyway, kcontrol -> kde components might help in your problem
[08:33] <jrick> Tm_T: yeah, i know that you didn't actually make the svg's and such.
[08:34] <Tm_T> jrick: well, I made some of them too ;)
[08:35] <jrick> Tm_T: i'm not seeing anything under File Manager.
[08:35] <rmullins_> Can anyone help with a connection issue using Kopete?
[08:36] <Tm_T> jrick: well then, I don't know (:
[08:36] <zombielion_> i use kubuntu 7.04 and i was to know how i can get the seveaspackages to show up in adept manager how do i add it to my repositories
[08:36] <jrick> Tm_T: ok then, I have to go anyways.
[08:36] <aldin> how to install real player?
[08:37] <Tm_T> !mp3
[08:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:37] <Tm_T> aldin: ^
[08:39] <wiglaf> Good day all
[08:39] <BluesKaj> zombielion_, go to the seveas site, http://seveas.imbrandon.com/
[08:39] <wiglaf> I'm looking for help getting wifi running on an ubuntu laptop...any takers?
[08:39] <dverweire> anyone have compiz-fusion working on kubuntu edgy?
[08:40] <wiglaf> ooh, dver...I did last month, but I didn't record my fiddling
[08:40] <wiglaf> what's your graphics chipset?
[08:40] <zombielion_> can all ubuntu programs work in kubuntu
[08:40] <dverweire> wiglaf: ouch. nvidia. xgl is working and beryl is working now.
[08:40] <Tm_T> zombielion_: yes, same system
[08:40] <dverweire> most of the howtos are for gnome
[08:41] <aldin> Tm_T: i need realplayer10.deb
[08:41] <wiglaf> well that's exciting, Dver
[08:41] <BluesKaj> dverweire, i tried it but it's abit much for my scope ..it assumes a fairly advanced knowledge of debian/kubuntu file commands etc
[08:41] <wiglaf> umm...I remember having to find some package that isn't listed in the gnome howtos
[08:42] <BluesKaj> zombielion_, mostly yes
[08:42] <dverweire> wiglaf: did you compile it yourself?
[08:43] <_rebecca_> #lol
[08:43] <wiglaf> oh, no it was simply a matter of adding a repo from some beryl-compiz list
[08:43] <daquino> hm klaptop when i close the lid doesn't allow me the option to hibernate
[08:43] <wiglaf> then grabbing the package, but I can't remember for the life of me what that was
[08:43] <dverweire> oh, cool. i'll have to search for that. i know there is a repo for feisty.
[08:44] <wiglaf> yeah, hit some beryl-compiz forums with a good search...the Kubuntu community isn't very thick with compiz-fusion help
[08:45] <dverweire> bummer. thanks for your help, wiglaf.
[08:45] <wiglaf> such as it is...ha
[08:46] <BluesKaj> dverweire, look for the tuxfamily repos in google
[08:46] <dverweire> thanks BluesKaj!
[08:47] <BluesKaj> np, dverweire
[08:48] <zombielion_> BlueKaj: do i just put this in deb http://seveas.imbrandon.com feisty-seveas all deb-src http://seveas.imbrandon.com feisty-seveas all  In sources.list just like that or is there some other way i need to do it
[08:52] <BluesKaj> zombielion_,in the terminal run : wget http://seveas.imbrandon.com/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -   .Then do' sudo aptitude update '
[08:53] <BluesKaj> then zombielion_ \yes for you first question
[08:54] <BluesKaj> and sudo aptitude update again
[08:58] <logixoul> hi. how do I exchange the 2 audio channels?
[09:00] <zombielion_> how do i log in as the root
[09:01] <logixoul> !root
[09:01] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[09:01] <zombielion_> i am the only user but i dont have admin permissions
[09:01] <crocodile-> monster garage factoid
[09:02] <zombielion_> can i add repositories through the console to sources.list
[09:03] <crocodile-> yes edit the sources.list file
[09:03] <zombielion_> cuz i am the only user and i cant add anything to sources.list if it opens in kate like a txt file
[09:03] <crocodile-> sudo pico /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:03] <jussi01> !sudo | zombielion_
[09:03] <ubotu> zombielion_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:04] <BluesKaj> zombielion_, alt+f2 thentype kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:04] <ianGG> greets
[09:06] <crocodile> your welcome zombie **
[09:06] <zombielion_> BluesKaj: it is empty i know that there is already links in there but what you told me to do gave me one with nothing. im very sorry but i am new to kubuntu well linux in general
[09:07] <zombielion_> yes thankyou
[09:07] <CJari> any one knows what "-network UNCLAIMED" means in lshw command's output?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[09:08] <zombielion_> crocodile: now how do i save this
[09:08] <crocodile> are you using pico or kate?
[09:08] <zombielion_> pico
[09:09] <crocodile> either ctrl-o or ctrl-x
[09:09] <crocodile> o will save and stay in pico, x will save and exit
[09:09] <zombielion_> thanx
[09:09] <zombielion_> and then do i need to do anything for this to show up in adept manager
[09:09] <crocodile> zombielion_ - kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:09] <crocodile> that really should work for you, maybe you did a typo
[09:10] <crocodile> (in the run box)
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> does anyone use DeVeDe in here?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> or can suggest an AVi to DVD app?
[09:10] <BluesKaj> ok zombielion_ http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/  ,you can geberate a sourceslist from this site just follow the instructions according to your compter model etc and copy and paste the result to the blank page that you got with the kdesu command
[09:11] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, i did use devede for a while ... i hear it is much better than in previous versions now
[09:11] <logixoul> Guys, how do I exchange the left and right speaker channels? KMix doesn't seem to have the option.
[09:12] <BluesKaj> another app you might consider is Tovid
[09:12] <jhutchins> logixoul: It may be that your sound card doesn't have that option.
[09:12] <daquino> can someone please explain to me what type of bug this is in this photo ? https://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfvxwwvc_8gzp8n9
[09:12] <jhutchins> That would probably be an "effect" that might be available on some players.
[09:12] <BluesKaj> logixoul, why not just switch the spkrs around .. ?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: The video is fine but my sound is just a mess
[09:13] <jhutchins> logixoul: That would probably be an "effect" that might be available on some players.
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: all crackly and noncoherent
[09:13] <logixoul> jhutchins: hm, okay. thx.
[09:13] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, try tovid
[09:13] <logixoul> BluesKaj: cable ain't long enough :)
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: will investigate
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: cheers man
[09:13] <jhutchins> daquino: Not obviously a bug, just a graphic being displayed.
[09:14] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, it works well , :)
[09:14] <jhutchins> daquino: Cool background on the panel.
[09:15] <daquino> jhutchins:  if you notice the little window in the middle.... thats the session mananger ... sometimes the entire firefox window shows up like that in the top left
[09:15] <daquino> its a bug!
[09:15] <daquino> i have to kill firefox and then restart it
[09:17] <logixoul> daquino: what happens if you try to maximize it
[09:17] <daquino> its a emtpy window
[09:17] <jhutchins> daquino: You realize that firefox is a hereditary pile of code that has been evolving for nearly two decades and has never been rewritten.  It is FULL of bugs.
[09:18] <daquino> yea well this only happens on this system... i have never seen it anywhere else...and i work with xulrunner for one of my projects so i know how firefox is put together
[09:18] <logixoul> well, they did rewrite netscape 4 :)
[09:18] <jhutchins> daquino: There are bugs still in the history function that I reported around 1992, when it was called "mosaic".
[09:18] <daquino> jhutchins:  i see this bug no where else... its probably a gtk issue
[09:18] <jhutchins> logixoul: Yes, but mozilla/firefox are from the original code tree, not from the netscape tree.
[09:19] <Minataku> jhutchins: Why not put aside your pointless hatred of Firefox and actually help this guy
[09:19] <jhutchins> logixoul: They patched stuff back into the mozilla tree (the original development name).
[09:19] <jhutchins> Minataku: I don't hate it, I just know it's full of bugs, and "stuff happens" is usually about all you can do.
[09:19] <daquino> and hte background on my bar is really the background of my desktop.... my bar is see through
[09:20] <jhutchins> Minataku: If you know what to do, by all means speak up!
[09:20] <Minataku> Funny how it's "stuff happens" when it's something you don't care for
[09:20] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, what about konq ?
[09:20] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Yeah, he could use that instead, it works for most pages.
[09:20] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: I do have to use firefox for some stuff, but I only use it when I have to.
[09:20] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: It's not that I hate it.
[09:21] <BluesKaj> is Konq a cleaner browser from a code pov?
[09:21] <jhutchins> daquino: Sorry, Minataku is right, this is a diversion and isn't helping you.
[09:21] <NickPresta> jhutchins, out of curiosity, what browser do you use? Konqueror?
[09:21] <jhutchins> Minataku: I would suggest you check the ubuntu and mozilla bugreports and forums, see if anyone else has seen and solved this.
[09:21] <jhutchins> NickPresta: Yeah, 90% of the time.
[09:22] <Minataku> I actually just walked in, what was the bug?
[09:22] <jhutchins> er, daquino, Check out the bugreports and forums.
[09:22] <jhutchins> Minataku: sorry.
[09:22] <NickPresta> jhutchins, neat. I use it about 60% of the time. There are a couple key extensions I cannot live without and for some reason, do not work with KonqiJS.
[09:22] <daquino> do you guys not see this issue ?
[09:22] <daquino> i have been seeing it since beginning
[09:22] <Minataku> Ah
[09:22] <Minataku> jhutchins: s'ok
[09:22] <jhutchins> daquino: I don't eve use the session mgr.
[09:22] <Minataku> jhutchins: I'm sorry as well, I could've been a lot nicer about that
[09:22] <Minataku> X3
[09:23] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:23] <NickPresta> Welcome, slow-motion
[09:24] <BluesKaj> daquino, i tried that site with konq it rendered exactly the same way as FF did
[09:25] <lordi_> anyone got a solution for .ts file videos?
[09:26] <BluesKaj> that is a video file , lordi_
[09:26] <daquino> wtf is he talking about
[09:26] <NickPresta> lordi_, mplayer should be able to play it.
[09:26] <daquino> anyway with klaptop batter thing can i not setup hibernation and such based on closing my laptop lid ?
[09:27] <daquino> never mind
[09:27] <lordi_> i installed mplayer and kaffeine
[09:27] <lordi_> i also thought it would be no problem
[09:27] <NickPresta> AFAIK, .TS videos are used for storing video on a DVD and is compressed using basic MPEG video compression.
[09:27] <BluesKaj> yup
[09:28] <NickPresta> lordi_, try VLC
[09:28] <lordi_> renaming to mpg or mpeg doesnt work
[09:28] <lordi_> k will try
[09:28] <NickPresta> lordi_, file extensions mean very-little, if anything, on a *nix environment
[09:29] <BluesKaj> actually .ts is a videofile all set for burning not playing
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> I'm lookign to back up my home partition, to another partition (not share home dirs, just move it there)
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> how can I do that?
[09:30] <lordi_> thanks a lot, vlc works!
[09:30] <NickPresta> Admiral_Chicago, I like rsync (grsync for GTK frontend).
[09:30] <Admiral_Chicago> ?
[09:31] <BluesKaj> vlc is great for all kinds of video files except those on the web
[09:31] <lordi_> this file extenison is used for hd by pro sieben germany
[09:31] <NickPresta> Admiral_Chicago, install "grsync" and run the application. It is intuitive.
[09:32] <delltester> hi guys... need help on my wifi connection
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> problem is I'm doing a reistall because of my crap performance with apt
[09:33] <NickPresta> !question | delltester
[09:33] <ubotu> delltester: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:34] <lordi_> is there a good backup software for the whole system?
[09:34] <delltester> sorry... i have a dell truemobile wireless 1390 card and i installed the native drivers... connection seems really really slow
[09:34] <delltester> is ndiswrapper better than the native drivers?
[09:34] <NickPresta> lordi_, again, I really like rsync.
[09:34] <lordi_> partimage?
[09:34] <lordi_> ok
[09:34] <NickPresta> lordi_, Admiral_Chicago, check out http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ if you're interested in using rsync
[09:35] <hilary> Hey everyone =)
[09:39] <hilary> anyone alive?
[09:39] <Dusk_> yeah
[09:39] <axxo> you i hope
[09:41] <binks> lol axxo as a nick
[09:41] <Dusk_> WAF
[09:42] <binks> anyone got sasc-ng working
[09:44] <sa> hi everyone
[09:45] <sa> i have tried to find info on how to install .bin files for an hour now with no success
[09:45] <Dusk_> hi sa
[09:45] <Karti> Hi all, any ideas how I can find out what wireless driver I am using on my system? Not sure if iwconfig/ifconfig gives me the details
[09:45] <Tm_T> sa: well, it's runnable app
[09:45] <Dusk_> sa: ./app.name
[09:45] <Tm_T> sa: "sh ./foofoo.bin" will run foofoo.bin
[09:46] <delltester> type lspci
[09:46] <Dusk_> sa: isn't that working?
[09:46] <delltester> karti type lspci
[09:46] <sa> Dusk_: no
[09:46] <sa> Dusk_: When I doubleclick on the file it opens in kate
[09:46] <Karti> delltester: I have a usb one, would that make a difference?
[09:46] <NickPresta> sa, you need to chmod the file first. `chmod +x file.bin`
[09:46] <Tm_T> sa: see what I said
[09:46] <NickPresta> sa, then you can run it.
[09:46] <sa> Dusk_: I have downloaded googleearth for linux and it is a bin file
[09:47] <logixoul> sa: better install it via apt...
[09:47] <logixoul> sa: native packages are always preferable
[09:47] <sa> Tm_T: When i double click on the file, it opens in kate
[09:47] <Tm_T> sa: well I didn't tell you to doubleclick
[09:47] <sa> logixoul: I cannot find it with apt
[09:47] <Schuenemann> anybody knows about how to configure a nvidia glx legacy driver on feisty?
[09:48] <Tm_T> sa: what did I tell you?
[09:48] <sa> Tm_T: Sorry, i am a linux noob. what did you mean then?
[09:48] <sa> Tm_T: foofoo...sorry
[09:48] <Tm_T> sa: I mean, open Konsole, and enter "sh ./googleearth.bin" or whatever
[09:49] <Tm_T> !bash | sa
[09:49] <sa> ok, let me try
[09:49] <logixoul> sa: Tm_T's method is a difficult, manual one. to install it with Apt, use this repository: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[09:49] <Tm_T> interesting
[09:49] <ubotu> sa: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:49] <Tm_T> so there is repository for that
[09:49] <logixoul> yep :)
[09:49] <sa> logixoul: ok let me have a look
[09:49] <Tm_T> always better
[09:49] <sa> thank yoneu everyo
[09:49] <sa> thank yuo everyone
[09:50] <Tm_T> you can do it!
[09:50] <Dusk_> =)
[09:50] <logixoul> lol
[09:50] <Schuenemann> he can do it, but I can't configure my video card :)
[09:51] <sa> you can do it!
[09:51] <Tm_T> haha
[09:51] <sa> :)
[09:51] <Schuenemann> sure, after I realized HOW
[09:51] <Schuenemann> realize*
[09:53] <sa> NickPresta: I tried your method
[09:53] <sa> NickPresta: awesome
[09:54] <sa> NickPresta: Can i add it to the K menu?
[09:54] <logixoul> yup use kmenuedit
[09:54] <logixoul> (would've been done for you if you had used apt :P)
[09:55] <sa> logixoul: it is a little complicated for me right now hehe
[09:55] <logixoul> aha k
[09:55] <sa> logixoul: have to get more familiar with linux first
[09:55] <logixoul> ok
[09:55] <sa> logixoul: with apt, do you mean aptitude?
[09:56] <binks> anyone tried mythubuntu or linux mce yet
[09:56] <logixoul> any Kubuntu package manager of your choice ;)
[09:56] <logixoul> that would be Adept for me
[09:56] <binks> apt fot me
[09:56] <sa> logixoul: aha, i tried to search for it in adept...couldnt find it
[09:56] <sa> logixoul: google earth that is
[09:57] <logixoul> sa: yup, it is not in the default installation sources, as it is not Free Software
[09:57] <logixoul> sa: that's why you need to add this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[09:57] <logixoul> but it doesn't matter anymore ;)
[09:57] <binks> sa: you on dapper edgy or feisty
[09:58] <sa> binks: feisty
[09:58] <binks> ok 1 sec
[09:58] <Ahmuck> hi, i was wondering if someone could help me get my wireless working in kubuntu
[09:58] <sa> binks: why?
[09:59] <sa> logixoul: I havnt installed it yet actually :)
[09:59] <logixoul> ah ok ;)
[09:59] <binks> sa: sorry i thought i had a link ill shut up
[10:00] <sa> logixoul: i have chmod +x the file and double clicked...trying to find out how to install it where rest of the programs are installed
[10:00] <logixoul> sa: ok
[10:01] <sa> logixoul: found it :) in /etc
[10:01] <lordi_> ok apache is running, something to smile? http://lordi.dyndns.info
[10:03] <hollie> im having fstab problems, the file doesnt match what is in the GUI disk/filesystems dialog, and somehow i have access to things that are unmounted according to the dialog
[10:04] <hollie> and my cd drive doesnt work at all   ><
[10:04] <hollie> anyone know how i can sync the settings in fstab with the dialog?
[10:06] <Edulix> what's the command for kubuntu's control center?
[10:07] <Edulix> the one similar to mac os x one
[10:07] <Schuenemann> kcontrol
[10:07] <hollie> 'systemsettings' in konsole?
[10:08] <Edulix> Schuenemann: that's kcontrol, for configuring kde and not similar to mac os x control center
[10:08] <Edulix> hollie: I'll try
[10:09] <Schuenemann> sorry, I've never seen a mac, I just guessed :p
[10:09] <Edulix> hollie: yes that one
[10:09] <Edulix> hehe
[10:09] <hollie> they look the same to me  :P
[10:11] <hollie> i finally got fglrx driver installed for my ati card, but it still wont do 3d and performs poorly for any graphics for that matter
[10:11] <hollie> i dont know what gives
[10:18] <theotick> !shockwave
[10:18] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[10:23] <neptunepink> I have problems with opengl applications...
[10:24] <neptunepink> opengl screensavers only draw on part of the screen
[10:24] <brmassa> why ubuntu uses Gnome as the main desktop manager?
[10:24] <brmassa> there is any logical reason?
[10:25] <logixoul> yes. Lots of people like GNOME.
[10:25] <logixoul> (it's "environment", not "manager" btw)
[10:25] <brmassa> just that? i mean... no technical reason?
[10:25] <brmassa> yep... environment
[10:26] <logixoul> you don't give no technical reasons to anyone when you found a project ;)
[10:26] <logixoul> apparently the first ubuntu devs liked gnome better
[10:26] <logixoul> or shuttleworth did
[10:26] <brmassa> hmmm i see.
[10:27] <Tm_T> does it really matter?
[10:27] <Tm_T> nope, not anymore
[10:28] <brmassa> well... Gnome gets much more exposition because of that. every one that talks about ubuntu are talking about gnome.
[10:28] <logixoul> true
[10:29] <brmassa> hmmm i know that gutsy will not come with KDE4. But it will be a "Get the new KDE4" button or something?
[10:29] <logixoul> yes.
[10:30] <Tm_T> brmassa: and when they talk about Kubuntu...
[10:30] <lordi_> is kde4 ready to use?
[10:30] <Tm_T> lordi_: nope
[10:30] <brmassa> nice! since KDE4 apps will mostly work on Windows too, i now see a technical reason to use KDE...
[10:30] <Tm_T> brmassa: also, what does it matter which DE got attention as far as it's not Windows
[10:30] <logixoul> Tm_T: http://googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=ubuntu&word2=kubuntu
[10:31] <BluesKaj> brmassa, it will the KDE4 option, but the latest KDE3 version will be the default from I've read
[10:31] <BluesKaj> have
[10:31] <Tm_T> logixoul: and?
[10:31] <Killboy_Powerhea> aghr
[10:32] <BluesKaj> oh gawd , selling out to MS ..hope not
[10:32] <logixoul> Tm_T: well, "everyone that talks about ubuntu" can't be countered with "and when they talk about kubuntu" :P
[10:32] <Tm_T> logixoul: so?
[10:32] <logixoul> meh
[10:33] <brmassa> yes... ubuntu is the main project. Dell is shipping ubuntu, not kubuntu. kubuntu is still a marginal product...
[10:34] <lordi_> yeah ready for some xmoto :-D
[10:34] <brmassa> KDE is still a marginal product on ubuntu universe.
[10:34] <Tm_T> brmassa: untrue
[10:35] <BluesKaj> marginal ? that's a terrible statement
[10:35] <Tm_T> yeah
[10:35] <Tm_T> anyway, this conv has no point so better end it or go on in #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:36] <cs5> blueskaj do you or anybody else have an uptodate link for the linux ati drivers. I am stuck in the tutorial you pointed me to due to a 404 error
[10:36] <brmassa> marginal = not the mainstream
[10:37] <montoya> Riddell: kde4 alpha 2???
[10:37] <cs5> this is for the 9600 problem from earlier
[10:37] <Tm_T> montoya: er?
[10:37] <NickPresta> brmassa, did you join this channel to troll Kubuntu? I've yet to see you contribute anything positive to this channel...
[10:37] <Admiral_Chicago> how can I force remove a mounted swap partition?
[10:37] <Tm_T> Admiral_Chicago: swapoff
[10:37] <JohnKeyne> hello. excuse my bad english, it is not my native language.  i have got a problem. i want to switch from windows to kubunto so i installed it on my second hard drive. everything is alright, but kubuntu does not detect my ethernet....    i have got pretty new hardware: Mainboard: Gigabyte P35-DS4 with an P35 chipset. i think it is unsupported at this time? where can i get drivers for on board network?
[10:38] <montoya> Tm_T: kde4 deb package for kubuntu...
[10:38] <Tm_T> montoya: there's no alpha 2 yet
[10:38] <Admiral_Chicago> Tm_T: umm. okay i'll try that (i'm on a liveCD)
[10:38] <NickPresta> JohnKeyne, what is your native language, out of curiosity? We have language specific channels.
[10:38] <JohnKeyne> german
[10:38] <Tm_T> !de | JohnKeyne
[10:38] <ubotu> JohnKeyne: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:38] <montoya> Tm_T: alpha2 27/06
[10:39] <Admiral_Chicago> thats why the installler was hanging, thanks Tm_T
[10:39] <BluesKaj> cs5,http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty ...is incorrect ?
[10:39] <Tm_T> montoya: hum, wait until it's released, still haven't seen that happening
[10:39] <JohnKeyne> oh. thanks =) i tried #kubuntu.de but nobody was there ^^
[10:39] <brmassa> Nick... im justing asking. and i really didnt know there is a "main subject" on this channel....
[10:39] <Tm_T> montoya: then, after release, check kubuntu.org
[10:39] <montoya> Tm_T: ok...
[10:39] <Tm_T> montoya: it'll be announced there when it's available
[10:40] <neptunepink> !opengl
[10:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:40] <Tm_T> montoya: poking won't make it happen faster you know ;)
[10:40] <jrick> Tm_T: I was looking a little bit and "Midnight Commander" should be one of the default konq profiles, but Kubuntu striped it out.  Now I have no way to get that console at the bottom. :(
[10:40] <NickPresta> brmassa, that's fine that you're asking, but insisting that Kubuntu is inferior or "unimportant" to the Ubuntu main branch is not wise on a Kubuntu help channel.
[10:40] <Tm_T> jrick: there is some way to remove that "kubuntu modification" but can't remember how it was
[10:41] <Tm_T> jrick: I recommend to do some searching in wiki
[10:41] <brmassa> hahah i just love Kubuntu. Im the ONLY big brazillian company that sells Kubuntu installed on my machines!!
[10:41] <BluesKaj> brmassa, hehe yeah,' I think you just got the message that gnome is marginal in this room :)
[10:41] <Tm_T> gnome? you mean those little guys?
[10:41] <logixoul> 3. profit!!!
[10:42] <BluesKaj> hehe Tm_T exactly :)
[10:42] <BluesKaj> mumytrollen
[10:43] <kim> Me and my friend have some problem. we are both installing nvida drivers... And it says we need to exit x server how to do this?????
[10:43] <NickPresta> kim, restart your X server: Control+Alt+Delete
[10:43] <kim> But it says exit
[10:43] <Tm_T> NickPresta: that doesn't shut it down
[10:43] <kim> right
[10:43] <kim> How to shut down then?
[10:43] <jrick> Tm_T: is that modification just like a package i need to remove or something?  i'm having trouble finding stuff on the kubuntu wiki.
[10:43] <Tm_T> kim: "invoke-rc.d kdm stop" should stop it
[10:44] <Tm_T> jrick: some file to edit/remove
[10:44] <brmassa> one thing i can fix on my personal pc: my monitor (resolution 1440x900) allways has problems on kubuntu. as long the standard xorg doesnt support such resolution, i installed nvidia drivers.. but evey time i boot, my screen gets crazy and shrinks...
[10:44] <kim> tm_t: i spoke to you earlier, when i typed that all went black and i got like a underline thing and nothing else
[10:44] <NickPresta> Tm_T, unless she means she needs to install the drivers from the console, you can restart the server for the same effect. If she needs to install it from the console, then yeah, /etc/init.d/kdm stop.
[10:44] <Admiral_Chicago> kim: sudo shutdown now will shut down the computer
[10:44] <kim> lol
[10:44] <kim> i dont care
[10:44] <Tm_T> NickPresta: exactly
[10:45] <kim> so?
[10:45] <Tm_T> kim: yes, then hit ctrl+alt+F2
[10:45] <kim> sure?
[10:45] <Tm_T> sure
[10:45] <kim> okok
[10:45] <Tm_T> or F3
[10:45] <Tm_T> or F4
[10:45] <NickPresta> Tm_T: I've never had to install my nvidia drivers from the command line. What's wrong with using your package manager and restarting X?
[10:45] <kim> only f3
[10:45] <kim> okok
[10:45] <Tm_T> whatever you like, from F1 to F6
[10:45] <kim> ok
[10:45] <Tm_T> NickPresta: hush
[10:46] <enry> goodnight!
[10:47] <Tm_T> Kood niKht!
[10:47] <NickPresta> Tm_T, it's fine if you don't want to take my advice or answer me. Telling me to 'hush' shows that you have no suitable response. =D
[10:47] <Tm_T> NickPresta: don't have time
[10:47] <jrick> Tm_T: ohh man, i almost thought i had an answer... http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/14772/Konqueror---cant-save-view-settings-for-individual.html
[10:48] <jrick> too bad it doesn't give me a link to his post.
[10:48] <kim> Tm_T: bbl then
[10:48] <NickPresta> Tm_T, you have enough time to argue with me though. Next time, keeping your comments to yourself would save you more time. ;)
[10:48] <Tm_T> woof
[10:48] <kim> lol
[10:48] <kim> ur uber now
[10:49] <NickPresta> lol
[10:49] <Tm_T> when I say I don't have time, I don't have time
[10:50] <kim> Tm_T:
[10:50] <kim> Stopping K display manager: KDM not runningkill: operation not permitted
[10:50] <kim> action failed
[10:50] <neptunepink> jrick: You can get the konsole button
[10:50] <brmassa> Guys, one thing i can fix on my personal pc: my monitor (resolution 1440x900) allways has problems on kubuntu. as long the standard xorg doesnt support such resolution, i installed nvidia drivers.. but evey time i boot, my screen gets crazy and shrinks...
[10:50] <jrick> neptunepink: what do you mean?
[10:51] <Tm_T> kim: sudo
[10:51] <neptunepink> jrick: right click on the toolbar...
[10:51] <Tm_T> jrick: I'm crawling thru my configurations atm
[10:51] <neptunepink> jrick: configure toolbars...
[10:52] <NickPresta> brmassa, which nvidia drivers and what exactly do you mean your screen "gets crazy"
[10:52] <neptunepink> and then "show terminal emulator" on the list
[10:52] <BluesKaj> brmassa, I think it could be a monitor driver problem ..if you don't have the right linux drivers for your monitor X is prolly seeking the closest workable resolution
[10:52] <jrick> neptunepink: i've added the button, but i would like the console at the bottom, mc style.
[10:52] <neptunepink> hmm, well I get that
[10:53] <neptunepink> perhaps it hides the other frame?
[10:53] <jrick> neptunepink: i'm trying to make konq like mc or krusader because i can't figure out how to make krusader my default file manager.
[10:53] <kim> Tm_T: lol he gets to a black login screen and cant press clrl alt f2 notin happends
[10:53] <brmassa> the monitor is AOC 193FW (Brand new!); driver: nvidia-glx
[10:54] <cWolfe> anyone able to burn a dvd with a file larger than 4gig using genisofs or k3b?
[10:54] <BluesKaj> brmassa, nvidia makes monitor drivers ?
[10:55] <kim> What the hell? It wasent this hard to install drivers last time i used kubuntu feasrt
[10:55] <BluesKaj> cWolfe, update your version of K3B
[10:55] <brmassa> almost everytime i boot, the image gets compressed and uses about half screen only. i have to turn off and turn off couple times to get it working...
[10:55] <brmassa> BlueKaj: nope!
[10:56] <Tm_T> kim: well, he gets into login screen, so log in and run the installer
[10:56] <BluesKaj> brmassa, are you sure your monitor driver isn't just a plug n play default driver?
[10:56] <neptunepink> jrick: you could probably cheat and put alias in .bash_rc
[10:56] <Tm_T> kim: but again, if it's possible, try repository packages
[10:56] <kim> zomg
[10:56] <c13ply> #/j #kubuntu-pl
[10:57] <brmassa> BlueKaj: Wait! i didnt installed a monitor driver. i installed nvidia-glx. which is a video-card driver.
[10:57] <jrick> neptunepink: i have no clue what you are talking about.....
[10:58] <brmassa> on edgy, i tried to edit manually the xorg.conf to added such resolutions. no sucess. on feisty, i only installed nvidia-glx and changed the resolution to 1440x900 (widescreen)
[10:59] <BluesKaj> yes brmassa , i'm talking about your monitor , your screen driver, ..NOT your graphics card driver
[11:00] <Lattyware_> Hey all, having a problem. Kopete doesn't sign in when I tell it to, but gives no errors. Just sits there disconnected
[11:01] <brmassa> BlueKaj: how i can get a monitor driver?
[11:01] <Lattyware_> I have tried restarting kopete, rebooting.
[11:01] <kim> tm_T: well i just got a bunch of blablablablabla kernel error like 3 times...
[11:02] <brmassa> BlueKaj: the curious thing is that if i turn off and on a couple of times, it turns normal again...
[11:02] <BluesKaj> brmassa, look for one with you screen model number in google-linux
[11:02] <BluesKaj> !google
[11:02] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[11:02] <kim> tm_T: Ive been using kubuntu for like 3 months, everythings is so hard to install...
[11:02] <Tm_T> kim: hum, you've been unlucky I afraid, what errors exactly?
[11:02] <jrick> Tm_T, neptunepink: maybe i'm just impatiant, but would it be easier just to make krusader the default?
[11:02] <Tm_T> kim: have you reported them?
[11:03] <Tm_T> jrick: sure, but I don't know how
[11:03] <Tm_T> even if I should
[11:03] <jrick> Tm_T: yeah, and google isn't helping.
[11:03] <Tm_T> jrick: krusader help doesnt give any hint?
[11:03] <jrick> not that I can tell.
[11:04] <kim> tm_T: Im to tired to even care... It sayd like, do you wish to downlod kernel something somethning from nvidia.com? i presse dokey and it just popped up a bunch of error error error
[11:04] <kim> tm_t: but it doesent matter
[11:04] <kim> tm_t: Im onyl confused, couse last time i installed i only pressed some buttons and it worked
[11:05] <jrick> Tm_T: krusader is *extremly* nice, and i would *really* not like if I had to use konq as the default instead.
[11:06] <Tm_T> jrick: ya I got that, but, duh, just don't know
[11:06] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: hehe
[11:06] <jrick> Tm_T: k
[11:06] <Tm_T> jrick: try #kde
[11:06] <Lattyware_> Kopete doesn't sign in when I tell it to, but gives no errors. Just sits there disconnected used to work, and connection is fine. Any ideas?
[11:06] <BluesKaj> ok BBL ... got the BBQ on
[11:07] <Tm_T> Lattyware_: run from Konsole to get some output
[11:07] <kim> back
[11:08] <Lattyware_> Tm_T: Ah, works suddenly. Somewhat odd.
[11:08] <kim> How the hell do i exit X server??
[11:08] <Tm_T> kim: I told you
[11:08] <kim> That cant be the only way
[11:08] <Valkar> Hello everyone
[11:08] <kim> I did it another way before
[11:08] <Tm_T> kim: well, every way take it to same point
[11:08] <kim> By just some combination
[11:08] <kim> Ive never been in that black place before
[11:09] <kim> black login thing
[11:09] <Tm_T> well, that's console
[11:09] <Tm_T> and without X it's all you get
[11:09] <kim> lol im too young for kubuntu
[11:10] <kim> After installation fails? how do i get back to this place?
[11:10] <kim> Normal *start x again
[11:10] <Tm_T> hum?
[11:10] <kim> Yes. whem i am in that fullscreen non graphic console..
[11:11] <Tm_T> if you like to restart X, well, it's "sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start" ofcourse ;)
[11:11] <kim> how do i get back here without rebooting?
[11:11] <kim> ok
[11:11] <kim> em ok
[11:11] <Tm_T> stop, start, restart :)
[11:14] <kim> t_mt: Em
[11:14] <kim> t_mt: something lice libc
[11:14] <Tm_T> hum?
[11:15] <kim> t_mt: something developer linc is not installed on your system or something its fucking hard to remember
[11:15] <Tm_T> oki
[11:15] <Tm_T> that doesn't make much sense though
[11:15] <kim> t_mt: it asked me to install dome developer stuff... man its dificult
[11:16] <kim> Cant i see the output now?
[11:16] <kim> so that i can copy?
[11:16] <Tm_T> kim: not really, unless you hit alt+ctrl+f1 and look it, then alt+ctrl+F7 to get back to desktop
[11:17] <cWolfe> k3b 1.0.2 from getdeb wont let me put a file larger than 4 gig on a cd either
[11:18] <Jack3> why would any cd fit a 4gig file?
[11:18] <Alex---> Hello does Real Player 10 works on AMD x86_64 ?
[11:18] <kim> okey, linux is off my and my mates hd
[11:19] <Tm_T> kim: yup, it's different
[11:19] <kim> cant even finish step one installing drivers lol -.-
[11:19] <Tm_T> kim: well, how long have you used Linux?
[11:20] <kim> 3 months... I got veeery much help in the begining but now the guy act like an asshle when i did a reinstall couse i needed windows for gameing
[11:20] <Tm_T> awww
[11:20] <kim> So now
[11:20] <BluesKaj> cWolfe, getdeb ?
[11:20] <kim> im back at square one
[11:20] <Tm_T> kim: oh well, in time you'll learn (:
[11:20] <kim> With no drivers and a mate from holland that donno nothing
[11:21] <kim> lol omg
[11:21] <Tm_T> but I have to go now, good luck with it (;
[11:21] <kim> hehe
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> kim: did you check out the nvidia link for drivers
[11:21] <Admiral_Chicago> !nvidia
[11:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:22] <kim> i went to website and follow instructions but it told me to restart x and there is where it went wrong
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> thats the way to install it, i've never had an issues
[11:24] <Alex---> Can anybody help with RealPlayer 10 ? I've got "Some required libraries seem to be missing from your system" (GTK+ 2.0 (libgtk-x11-2.0.so and others)....
[11:25] <Admiral_Chicago> Alex---: where did you get realplayer from
[11:25] <mike> Greets, everyone...
[11:26] <Alex---> Admiral: from http://www.real.com/linux
[11:26] <mike> I'm installing Kubuntu on a system that has two internal hard drives, and I just had a quick question about the partitions...
[11:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Alex---: get it from the repositories, are you on Fiesty?
[11:26] <aroo> mike: ask
[11:26] <Alex---> Admiral: yes
[11:27] <Alex---> Admiral: which repositories? My adept manager does not list it!
[11:28] <mike> I'm wanting to have hdb set as one partition mounted at /home, half of hda mounted at /, and the other half of hda mounted at /home as well (with the appropriate amount of hda set aside as swap). Is this possible, or will having two partitions mounted to the same location cause problems?
[11:28] <mike> So hda would have 3 partitions
[11:29] <CliffJumper> ls
[11:29] <Admiral_Chicago> !repo
[11:29] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:29] <Alex---> mike: it will. you can have only one mount point per partition. If you want to join two partition must use LVM or raid. But is not that simple!
[11:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Alex---: you want to use the canonical repositories
[11:30] <waylandbill> mike: you can mount /home and then mount another partition as a directory under /home.
[11:30] <Alex---> Admiral: no problem with it. just to have real player installed
[11:31] <mike> Alex---: Thanks. Would mounting the extra space from hda to something like /media/extra be practical, and then just chown -R mike:mike /media/extra ?
[11:31] <mike> waylandbill: Oh ok. Sounds like that'll be my best bet. Thanks a lot
[11:32] <Alex---> mike: that is good. you can also mount it like /home/mike/extra if you prefer
[11:32] <waylandbill> mike: I wouldn't mount stuff that's mike's under /media. That's really for automounting removable media. Mounting a seperate partition under /home/mike/extra_data is a good example.
[11:33] <mike> K, sounds good.
[11:33] <Alex---> Admiral: how can I setup canonical repository I guess I already have them. If I choose manage repository, kubunto software, I have everything checked.
[11:34] <Admiral_Chicago>  /mnt is for removable media. /media is for long term mounts
[11:34] <kristi> Fresh install of Ubuntu Feisty... Amarok keeps crashing every time I try to play an mp3 file... any ideas?
[11:34] <waylandbill> Admiral_Chicago: if I stick in a memory stick, it mounts to /media rather than /mnt.
[11:34] <mike> Now that begs the question: Is there a way to make all that stuff I have in /home/mike/extra appear to just be in /home/mike, aside from manually making shortcuts for all of its contents?
[11:34] <theotick> !macromedia
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macromedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:35] <Admiral_Chicago> kristi: you need to install libxine-extracodecs
[11:35] <waylandbill> mike, have an issue with clicking into a subdirectory? I wouldn't worry about it if it's only one click away.
[11:35] <kristi> Admiral_Chicago: Usually it gave the option to do it automatically... Amarok has never crashed before like this.
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> yea there have been issues with the amarok script hanging
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> i've seen the bug reports
[11:36] <mike> waylandbill: Right, but then I'd have all my stuff in two seperate locations (i.e., /home/mike/Music + /home/mike/extra/Music, /home/mike/Pictures/ + /home/mike/extra/Pictures)
[11:37] <kristi> Admiral_Chicago: Well, installing that did it.
[11:38] <mike> Agh, nevermind. I'll figure something out.
[11:38] <mike> Thanks a lot, waylandbill, Alex--- :-)
[11:39] <waylandbill> mike: or you can symlink a /home/mike/extra/Music as /home/mike/Music/extra. :-)
[11:39] <mike> Doh... Should've thought of that myself. Heh
[11:39] <mike> Thanks again. Peace out
[11:40] <mike> Actually, one other quick question while I'm here... heh
[11:40] <mike> Does anyone know if the Savage drivers support hardware acceleration?
[11:41] <mike> I've got an oooold S3 Savage 4
[11:41] <Admiral_Chicago> probably not
[11:41] <waylandbill> most likely not
[11:41] <mike> K, thanks. Peace
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[11:45] <animimotus> hello
[11:45] <animimotus> I can find the rehash command
[11:46] <animimotus> * can't
[11:46] <Alex---> Admiral: I do not undestand the point about canonical repository.... I pasted my apt sources.list here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27183/
[11:47] <Alex---> Sic Admiral Chicago left..... I repeat for anybody wishing to help
[11:48] <Alex---> I do not undestand the point about canonical repository.... I pasted my apt sources.list here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27183/
[11:48] <Alex---> I guess I have all repository enabled. But I cannot find Real player
[11:49] <waylandbill> Alex---: it's not in the official repos.
[11:49] <waylandbill> try the wiki: http://help.ubuntu.com
[11:49] <waylandbill> I think you can search for the way to install there.
[11:50] <Alex---> ok I guess I checked... I do it once more. :)
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Alex---: you tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24331
[11:51] <Guilty_as_Sin> try the one from the realplayer website, that is what I had to do
[11:53] <Alex---> no I have not. I'll try dpkg.... I tried from http://www.real.com/linux but I get an error about libraies. I guess is due to my AMD x86_64 ???
[11:53] <waylandbill> It's been years... maybe a decade since I've seen any real player content I'd want to watch. Lots of stuff is flash driven now.
[11:54] <Alex---> :)
[11:54] <waylandbill> Alex---: I'm not sure there is 64 bit support for that.
[11:54] <Guilty_as_Sin> yeah but some of that content "is years old"
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Alex---: watch 64 bit stuff cos most codecs are 32bit
[11:55] <Guilty_as_Sin> at least for me it is
[11:55] <Alex---> yes, I have some problems....
[11:55] <Guilty_as_Sin> not my favorite media player by far
[11:56] <cWolfe> dvd i meant
[11:56] <Alex---> for example with vmware workstation.... it did not work then I installed ia32-libs, I do'nt know magic, but worked...
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> im on an AM2 semperon 3000 and i run 32bit OS, waitiing until 64 takes off then WHAM
[11:57] <matthias> hi
[11:57] <matthias> i'm looking
[11:57] <matthias> for a video converter for my kubuntu
[11:57] <Alex---> do you think http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24331 you reccomended is ok for 64 bits?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> matthias: converter from what to what?
[11:58] <matthias> avi (divx) to (mpeg2) or (psp)
[11:59] <matthias> but i need a gui and i have to really configure it good
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> matthias: have you tried mencoder?
[11:59] <matthias> matthias: yes and i have to say i can't configure it right
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> matthias: then learn how, its getting some good writeups from what i can see
[12:00] <matthias> actionparsnip: i can use it but i need to convert a 100 mb avi file to a 29 mb mpeg file
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> matthias: http://www.emulinks.de/divx/
[12:00] <matthias> actionparsnip: and mencode can't let me configure this
[12:00] <waylandbill> matthias: you have a requirement of the output size?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> matthias: then you are going to be stripping quality
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> losing 2/3rds of size
[12:02] <waylandbill> lossy compression assumes quality loss, but never heard a requirement of a specific output size. usually it
[12:02] <waylandbill> 's just 'smaller' :-)
[12:03] <matthias> actionparsnip: its just for a psp device
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> matthias: buy a bigger memory card :)
[12:03] <matthias> actionparsnip; the screen resolution and stuff are much smaller then the resolution of the video
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> does a psp scale the image ?
[12:04] <matthias> actionparsnip: i'm going to do that, but I'm looking if my linux box could do this
[12:04] <BluesKaj> avi isn't the greatest quality video as it is , compressing to less than 1/3rd is going be awful
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> should be able to
[12:05] <matthias> but im going to convert from avi to mpeg
[12:05] <BluesKaj> trying to copy it to a old usb key no doubt
[12:06] <waylandbill> I just use meconder. It does good with my ipod video.
[12:06] <Alex---> sudo dpkg -i realplay_10.0.2-1_i386.deb .............did not work (quite generic error)
[12:06] <BluesKaj> or tovid
[12:06] <waylandbill> you don't really need need a gui. you figure the parameters you need and make a shell script to execute the command.
[12:07] <waylandbill> Alex---: i386 != x86_64
[12:07] <semistud2354> does anyone know how to connect to a remote desktop...if your not on the same network
[12:07] <semistud2354> i tryed openssh
[12:07] <semistud2354> and ssh
[12:07] <BluesKaj> Alex---, don't sudo just copy the filename to the terminal and type./ in front
[12:07] <semistud2354> and fish
[12:08] <semistud2354> anyone have any ideas
[12:08] <GrahamA> semistud2354: The ports are open yes?
[12:08] <semistud2354> how do you check
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> matthias: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mencoder_Introduction_Guide
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> matthias: looks pretty sweet to me
[12:08] <GrahamA> If you can connect, then it's open :)
[12:08] <BluesKaj> Alex---,  ./realplay_10.0.2-1_i386.deb
[12:08] <GrahamA> Is this other network a network you're in charge of?
[12:08] <waylandbill> Alex---: your problem is going to be that Real hasn't build a 64 bit package... proprietary format from a company that targets 32 bit..
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> matthias: if you specify bitrate as something stupidly low it should be ok but the result is gonna be horrendous
[12:09] <semistud2354> yea
[12:09] <semistud2354> its my momz network
[12:09] <semistud2354> i keep it workin
[12:09] <GrahamA> mom's
[12:09] <semistud2354> just need to know how i can work on her comp
[12:09] <semistud2354> from my house
[12:10] <semistud2354> im not like trying to hack a friend or anything
[12:10] <waylandbill> semistud2354: if you're going over the internet and are on the other side of a router, you may need to forward the port(s).
[12:10] <GrahamA> Anyway, make sure the router (I assume you have a router) has the ssh port open and forwarded to the machine you wanrt to connect to.
[12:10] <semistud2354> i turned off dchp
[12:10] <semistud2354> or on
[12:10] <semistud2354> i forget
[12:10] <Alex---> ok. now I see i386 != x86_64 (waylandbill is right).
[12:10] <GrahamA> DHCP is nothing to do with it.
[12:11] <semistud2354> you wouldnt happn to know the ip for a belkin
[12:11] <GrahamA> semistud2354: I know nothing about your network, those sort of things are network specific.
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> semistud2354: you have the ip of the machine on your network (probably something like 192.168.0.1)
[12:11] <waylandbill> semistud2354: you need to forward the port from the WAN device to the LAN device. If you don't know what I mean, you need to learn that.
[12:11] <Alex---> I hoped some something.... does not matter I'll find something else..... or renounce for now. thank you all!
[12:11] <GrahamA> Belkin is a brand of networking gear, it doesn't have an IP.
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> semistud2354: your router has a WAN IP that is assigned to you by your provider (something like 80.34.54.123)
[12:12] <semistud2354> on the a websight it tells of a number 192.168.?.??? and you put that in your address bar..and it connects to the router
[12:12] <matthias> can i use avi file in kino?
[12:12] <semistud2354> i just dont know what that number is
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> semistud2354: now if you will be external to your network so you wil use the WAN ip, but which computer does the connection hgo to
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> semistud2354: if you just have 1 IP??
[12:13] <semistud2354> thats how i turnd off dchp
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> semistud2354: ANSWER: you forward the port to the relevant PC using a rule
[12:13] <waylandbill> semistud2354: 192.168.x.x is only from on the LAN. you can't use that on the net (WAN)
[12:13] <semistud2354> o...for now im hooked up to my network
[12:13] <semistud2354> its when i go home
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> semistud2354: so connections to 80.34.54.123:22 get pushed to 192.168.0.32:22
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> semistud2354: and the connection is formed
[12:14] <waylandbill> semistud2354: and the answer is to forward from the WAN address to the desired LAN address. You'll need to consult your router's documentation to do that.
[12:14] <semistud2354> o
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> semistud2354: if you gooogle for virtual server or port forwarding you should get something
[12:14] <waylandbill> obviously, the port to forward is 22. :-D
[12:15] <XVampireX> Hi?
[12:15] <GrahamA> XVampireX: Sup
[12:15] <GrahamA> Though that's not a question but... meh...
[12:16] <XVampireX> Hehe