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=== Topic (#ubuntu-bugs): set by dholbach at Fri Jun 15 11:54:46 2007
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[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122048 in nautilus-cd-burner (main) "<Insert Writeable Disk> Button positioned over <Cancel> Button" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122048
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[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122051 in network-manager-applet (main) "nm-applet displays wrong signal strength with 2 aps" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122051
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[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122052 in kvirc (universe) "kvirc locales error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122052
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122053 in kdebase (main) "konqueror doesn't check destination free space before starting directory move" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122053
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-bugs: Ubuntu BugSquad | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | If you have been triaging bugs for a while, please apply to https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-qa/ - http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugsquad | Next HUG DAY on June 27th
=== Topic (#ubuntu-bugs): set by dholbach at Fri Jun 15 11:54:46 2007
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[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122055 in compiz-fusion-plugins-main (universe) "Compiz Fusion {gutsy}" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122055
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122056 in apparmor (universe) "Apparmor won't work after installed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122056
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[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122057 in gnomebaker (universe) "cd-drive is shown in device menu when burning dvd" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122057
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[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122058 in openipmi (universe) "Merge openipmi (2.0.11-1) from debian unstable" [Wishlist,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122058
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122059 in network-manager (main) "Added Leap Support plus fixes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122059
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[08:16] <dholbach> good morning
[08:18] <thekorn> hello dholbach !
[08:19] <dholbach> hey thekorn
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[08:46] <dholbach> thekorn: you've been up early today? :)
[08:48] <thekorn> dholbach: yes! 'morgen stund hat gold im mund'
[08:49] <coNP> guten morgen dholbach, thekorn  :)
[08:49] <thekorn> hey coNP
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[08:58] <dholbach> hey coNP
[08:58] <dholbach> thekorn: I'm amazed :)
[08:59] <dholbach> thekorn: the api changes wiki page looks good
[09:00] <dholbach> thekorn: I'll review your branch now - it might be time for mailing the mailing list about it soon (and prod pitti, asac and mvo)
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[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122062 in Ubuntu "gnome startup failed due wrong /dev/null permission" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122062
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[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122064 in synaptic (main) "[Wishlist]  Removing software+dependencies currently much more difficult than installing them" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122064
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[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122065 in firefox (main) "apport hook test - error " [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122065
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122066 in hugin (universe) "crash due to wrong thread initialization" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122066
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122067 in firefox (main) "apport hook test - error 2" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122067
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122068 in vlc (universe) "crash when decoding video " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122068
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[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122069 in grip (universe) "grip produces corrupted ogg files" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122069
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122070 in firefox (main) "apport hook test - error 3" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122070
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122071 in Ubuntu "Avast got jammed when it tries to scan /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14:1/power/state" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122071
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[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122072 in gnokii (universe) "xgnokii fails to start" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122072
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[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #122073 in bzr-svn (universe) "should enhance svn" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122073
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[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122074 in firefox (main) "javascript can't complete a for..in.. loop (mootools 1.11 in use)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122074
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122075 in evolution (main) "I lost contact information and sign " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122075
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122076 in Ubuntu "To get movie player to work, I attempted to add repositories from medibuntu and a major failure of software occurred.  Symaptic Package Mgr. shows only an error box.  Add/Remove Applications error box reads - failed to check for anstalled and available applications." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122076
[11:33] <gnomefreak> do we even support medibuntu?
[11:34] <crimsun> no, "we" don't.
[11:34] <DarkMageZ> sounds like the user failed to add the repository to the sources.list properly.
[11:34] <gnomefreak> i didnt think so, is that bug rejectable
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[11:35] <DarkMageZ> i'd reject it cause it's not a bug. it should be a support request.
[11:36] <gnomefreak> i am
[11:36] <gnomefreak> user doesnt know what hes doing
[11:37] <gnomefreak> is invaild reject now?
[11:40] <pochu> gnomefreak: yes, it is.
[11:40] <gnomefreak> pochu: ty
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[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122079 in wpasupplicant (main) "WPA doesnt restart when running apache2 webserver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122079
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122080 in openoffice.org-voikko (main) "[gutsy]  /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-voikko.postinst: line 232:  2779 Segmentation fault" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122080
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122081 in gtk+2.0 (main) "beagle search in filechooser not possible" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122081
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122082 in compiz (main) "Desktop Effects Cube" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122082
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[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #122083 in compiz (main) "Desktop Effects return to X fails" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122083
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[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122084 in Ubuntu "gnome-screensaver doesn't work with compiz" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122084
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122085 in Ubuntu "close-window-button in compiz sometimes closes window below" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122085
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[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122087 in netenv (universe) "Please teach netenv about Ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122087
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122088 in amule (universe) "amule crash on menu Option access" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122088
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122089 in totem (main) "/var/crash/_usr_bin_totem-video-thumbnailer.1000.crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122089
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[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122091 in gnome-applets (main) "trashapplet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122091
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122092 in gcalctool (main) "Calculator always rounds to one decimal place in simple mode." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122092
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[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122094 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Disable compiz/beryl on switch to battery" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122094
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122095 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashes when transferring an ogg file to a mp3 usb-stick" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122095
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122096 in epiphany-browser (main) "epiphany crashes randomly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122096
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[01:41] <ScottK> bdmurray: Did you see the ping I left you last night about not using Triaged just now?
[01:41] <ScottK> Resend - bdmurray: I think you ought to consider making it triaging policy NOT to use the Triaged state until Bug #121636 gets fixed.
[01:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121636 in malone "when a bug is marked as triaged it disappears" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121636
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[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122097 in monodevelop (universe) "Crash when changing arrow direction in GUI editor" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122097
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[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122090 in iptables (main) "parse_port undefined when using libipt_tcp.so directly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122090
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122098 in audacity (universe) "audacity 24bit quantization noise in feisty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122098
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[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122100 in alsa-driver (main) "sound like am old CD" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122100
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[02:31] <ogra> how does an old Cd sound ?
[02:31] <ogra> less digital than a new one ?
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122102 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Cannot enable port 3.  Maybe the USB cable is bad? - DM-140GINK Demo / HMC-2K53A" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122102
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122103 in xdg-user-dirs-gtk (universe) "creates ~ even when nautilus has ~ as the Desktop" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122103
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122104 in compiz (main) "composite not working" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122104
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[02:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122107 in gnome-pilot (main) "[Gutsy]  Applet appears in wrong group" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122107
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[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122108 in nginx (universe) "Please update the nginx package to the latest version" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122108
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122110 in firefox (main) "firefox misparses listings from microsoft ftp service" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122110
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[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122113 in kvm (universe) "[Merge]  Please merge kvm-28-4 from Debian Unstable" [Wishlist,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122113
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[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122114 in gnome-panel (main) "Can't remove non-functional screen brightness applet" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122114
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[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #122116 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Kernel bug reported in kern.log while trying to read corrupted ext3 filesystem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122116
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[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122117 in Ubuntu "No toolbar-icons for KDE apps running in gnome" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122117
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[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122118 in firefox (main) "Pressing Ctrl+W once closes all tabs, one by one" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122118
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122119 in amule (universe) "[gutsy]  amulegui crashes on run" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122119
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[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122120 in totem (main) "erro interno de fluxo de dados" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122120
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[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122121 in bootcd (universe) "bootcdwrite fails with a syntax error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122121
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[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122122 in firefox (main) "firefox causing gnome to exit" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122122
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[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122124 in gnome-media (main) "Can`t save in Sound Recorder using the Save button" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122124
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122126 in python-launchpad-bugs (main) "BugList needs to support cookie file to see private bugs" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122126
[04:44] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: please check and respond to http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142615
[04:44] <ubotu> KDE bug 142615 in general "Switch users menu shows users who have logged out of a TTY session" [Normal,Resolved: worksforme] 
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[04:55] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: I still notice it on Gutsy.  They ask about any "ubuntu-/debian-specific kdm-patches to the kdm backend".  Do you know of any?
[04:56] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: not offhand, sorry
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[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122127 in firefox (main) "firefox crashes when loading webpage, shuts itself down." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122127
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[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122128 in vlc (universe) "added Xb-Npp-xxx tags accordingly to "firefox distro add-on suport" spec" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122128
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[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #122130 in samba (main) "Segfault in Samba" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122130
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[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122133 in Ubuntu "dapper->feisty regression: synaptics touchpad not properly configured" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122133
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[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122136 in gtkpod (universe) "Preferences window can't fit on screen and can't be moved" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122136
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[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122139 in latex-beamer (universe) "latex beamer class unusable since tex upgrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122139
[05:40] <Hobbsee> LP #44778, LP #119467
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122141 in gtk+2.0 (main) "SIGSEGV in gtk.Button.set_image" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122141
[05:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 44778 in kubuntu-meta "kpager: 'Launch pager' seems to do nothing" [Low,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/44778
[05:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119467 in kubuntu-meta "make non-essential packages Recommends and not Depends" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119467
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[06:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122149 in Ubuntu "ITP: Open Invaders" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122149
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[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122151 in Ubuntu "OpenOffice.org cannot follow .desktop links" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122151
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[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122152 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu need to be restarted in order to new language configuration (locales) be applied" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122152
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[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122153 in langpack-locales (main) "locales configuration is not apropiate" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122153
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[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122154 in Ubuntu "faliure to shut down properly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122154
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[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122156 in apport (main) "crashes with "ValueError: package does not exist"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122156
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122157 in evince (main) "Unable to open document " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122157
[06:54] <coNP> is bug report #122157 valid?
[06:55] <coNP> evince claims to be 0.9.1-0ubuntu1~pollycoke2
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[06:55] <coNP> what is that?
[06:55] <Hobbsee> coNP: means a non-ubuntu package
[06:55] <Hobbsee> i'd expect
=== coNP as well
[06:56] <coNP> should I ask the user or simply reject?
=== Hobbsee rejects
=== Hobbsee would just reject
[06:56] <coNP> err I mean set it invalid
[06:56] <Hobbsee> :)
[06:56] <coNP> no more reject :)
=== Hobbsee smites with The Invalid Stick
=== Hobbsee smites the bug, and the user, with The Invalid Stick
=== coNP hides from The One True Invalid Stick
[06:57] <bdmurray> Is it possible the user doesn't know they don't have an Ubuntu package?
[06:58] <Hobbsee> because they've used some third party script or something?
[06:58] <coNP> it is like law
[06:58] <coNP> not knowing does not mean you don't have to obey
[06:58] <calc> bdmurray: they should now :)
[06:58] <Hobbsee> coNP: *grin*
[06:59] <Hobbsee> coNP: that's the logic that i use on customers at work.
[06:59] <coNP> What kind of customers?
[06:59] <Hobbsee> "no, your inability to read a sign about bag checks does not mean that you are exempt from them"
[06:59] <Hobbsee> i work in a supermarket
[06:59] <Hobbsee> it's fun, for the most part
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[06:59] <Hobbsee> until people try to use logic like that
[06:59] <Hobbsee> calc: 3am
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[07:01] <rbs-tito> does anyone know if the project tog et sax into Ubuntu is still active?
[07:03] <bdmurray> Right maybe they are using a derivative or automatix or something . . . .  I think a more verbose rejection might have been more helpful for the reporter.
[07:04] <coNP> bdmurray: I'll do that
[07:05] <ScottK> They should email pollycoke@gmail.com who made the package.
[07:05] <ScottK> http://download.tuxfamily.org/pollyrepo/feisty/gtk2-engines_2.11.1-0ubuntu1~pollycoke2_i386.changes
[07:05] <ScottK> Not the same package, but it looks like the same packager.
[07:06] <coNP> actually I am not wondering
[07:07] <coNP> since I bugged seb128 to update libpoppler to get pdf working
[07:07] <coNP> something they might have forgotten about
[07:07] <coNP> (configure only issues a warning that there is no pdf support, no error)
[07:08] <seb128> what?
[07:08] <coNP> sorry I only told that evince needed a libpoppler update
[07:08] <coNP> so that pdf documents can be displayed as well
[07:08] <seb128> what are you wondering since then?
=== coNP is _not_ wondering that they cannot see pdf documents
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122159 in Ubuntu "Problem with the restart function" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122159
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122160 in scim (main) "scim lock modifier status (ctrl/shift/alt) on Firefox 1.5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122160
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[07:13] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: please provide a prewritten response :)
[07:15] <rbs-tito> Guys, is bug 122159 a duplicate of bug 122154 ?
[07:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122159 in Ubuntu "Problem with the restart function" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122159
[07:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122154 in Ubuntu "faliure to shut down properly" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122154
[07:20] <rbs-tito> Cool, "new" bugs have gone down to 49%. That means we have triaged more than half of all bugs
[07:20] <Neolithium> Sweet!
[07:21] <coNP> wow
[07:22] <pochu> But we still have more than 30k bugs opened...
[07:22] <rbs-tito> pochu: Don't ruin the moment :D
[07:22] <pochu> hehe
=== coNP senteces pochu to close 30 bugs now
[07:23] <pochu> 30125 opened
[07:23] <pochu> And we are 112 people in the channel... :)
=== coNP senteces pochu to close 125 bugs now
[07:23] <coNP> :)
[07:23] <pochu> would be cool :)
[07:23] <rbs-tito> I'll do it, using a random number generator :D
[07:23] <fernando> s/125/1250/   :)
=== pochu remembers Hobbsee to close all KDE bugs as *WontFix* :)
[07:23] <Neolithium> rofl
[07:24] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: Thanks for taking the time to report this bug and trying to help make Ubuntu better.  However, it seems that you are not using a software package provided by the official Ubuntu repositories.  Because of this the Ubuntu project can not support or fix your particular bug.  Please report this bug to the provider of the software package.  Thanks!
[07:24] <rbs-tito> That for the evince bug?
[07:24] <bdmurray> well evince or what have you
[07:25] <coNP> bdmurray: nice
[07:25] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: thanks :)
[07:25] <rbs-tito> that should probably go onto the wiki
[07:25] <Hobbsee> pochu: *grin*
[07:25] <Hobbsee> pochu: i havent looked at them again yet
[07:25] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: done
[07:25] <pochu> Hobbsee: feel free ;)
=== coNP hits update on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses
[07:26] <bdmurray> Does anybody know of a wiki page about software repositories?  It would be nice to link to something regarding software we support.
[07:27] <Neolithium> I........*scratches his head* Feel stupid and don't remember. LOL
[07:27] <pochu> !repositories
[07:27] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
=== bdmurray hugs pochu
=== pochu hugs bdmurray back :)
[07:29] <rbs-tito> Does anyone know if the two bugs I mentioned are duplicates?
=== bdmurray missed that
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122161 in synaptic (main) "Synaptic Package Manager ( internal error )" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122161
=== Neolithium will take a peek tito
[07:31] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: 12215 and 122154
[07:31] <rbs-tito> *122159
[07:32] <rbs-tito> bug 122159 & bug 122154
[07:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122159 in Ubuntu "Problem with the restart function" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122159
[07:32] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122154 in Ubuntu "faliure to shut down properly" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122154
[07:32] <Neolithium> Yeah; they are identical.
[07:33] <bdmurray> I'd disagree
[07:33] <rbs-tito> I'll dupe it
[07:33] <rbs-tito> Oh
[07:33] <bdmurray> don't
[07:33] <rbs-tito> One says they have no problem with shutdown, the other says they have a problem with shutdown
[07:33] <bdmurray> The ability to power off or reboot a system is hardware specific.
[07:34] <rbs-tito> The motherboard?
[07:35] <bdmurray> The BIOS / DMI information
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122162 in bzr-gtk "bzr-gtk crash when not lanched in a branch" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122162
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[07:36] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: what happened to that bug about guidance that you had milestoned?
[07:37] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: what do you mean what happened?  I updated it a couple of hours ago.  It is still an issue for me.  Did it disappear?
[07:37] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: i dont see it on the tribe 2 listing
[07:37] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: did you happen to mark it as triaged?
[07:38] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: Is there a command that will tell them that, or do we expect them to know it?
[07:38] <bdmurray> No I left it Incomplete
[07:38] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: so it's on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone:Alist=469 and i'm missing it?
[07:40] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: it shows up here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+bugs
[07:40] <bdmurray> I'm not sure it was ever Milestoned for Tribe 2 as I hadn't heard of it happening to anyone else
[07:41] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: it was on that list before, i thought
[07:41] <Hobbsee> or else i was going off the wrong thing
[07:41] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: hmm, the activity log doesn't show anything and I am not sure if it is supposed to
[07:41] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: oh right, so it was just marked as for gutsy
[07:41] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: They end up being kernel bugs so kernel debugging info plus 'sudo dmidecode'.
[07:42] <rbs-tito> pk
[07:49] <rbs-tito> NOO! New has gone up to 50% again
[07:49] <rbs-tito> Get squishing
=== Neolithium logs into launchpad with a big stick.
[07:50] <Hobbsee> just makr them all as triaged....
[07:50] <Hobbsee> oh wait.
[07:50] <Neolithium> Uh, no, that'd just get me yelled at LOL
[07:51] <bdmurray> One thing to do would be to look for all apport crashes from Gutsy and ask for debug backtraces.
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[07:52] <bdmurray> Gutsy's kernel is not currently setup to get the debugging information so any apport crash reports from Gutsy are incomplete.
[07:54] <rbs-tito> would the repository list for bug 122161 be useful?
[07:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122161 in synaptic "Synaptic Package Manager ( internal error )" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122161
[07:55] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: I don't think so.  virtual box won't show up in any Ubuntu repo
[07:57] <bdmurray> ScottK: I saw your comments about Triaged
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[07:59] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: It seems like a bug with a non official repository. reject it?
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[08:02] <ScottK> bdmurray: Good.  Today the bug got approved to be cherry-picked, so maybe it won't be that long, but in the meantime, we ought not use it I don't think.
[08:02] <rbs-tito> tsmithe: Long time, no speak
[08:02] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: It might be good to get '/etc/apt/sources.list' just to prove it.  But yeah it sounds like an issue with a repo that they are using.
[08:02] <tsmithe> rbs-tito, yeah!
[08:02] <tsmithe> rbs-tito, how's it going?
[08:02] <bdmurray> ScottK: It seems to be in progress now so I think it will be fixed soon.
[08:03] <bdmurray> ScottK: I wanted to give them a chance to fix it.
[08:04] <rbs-tito> tsmithe: Pretty good.  Any joy with that stuck up IT tech in school?
[08:05] <ScottK> bdmurray: OK.  Up until today I didn't know it was going to be fixed soon.
=== ScottK still has indigestion over the last LP upgrade.
[08:05] <rbs-tito> We are back down to 49% YES!
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[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122163 in dmraid (universe) "dmraid does not work properly - Ubuntu 7.10 Tribe 1 is not being installed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122163
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[08:21] <rbs-tito> Should bug 51235 be closed? It is a translation issue in Dapper, shouldn't it be referred to Rosetta?
[08:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 51235 in language-pack-cs "Ubuntu odpojen napjecho kabelu a pop-up v GNOME" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/51235
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[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122167 in firefox (main) "Firefox crash on gutsy on opening preferencies/downloads/save as dialogs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122167
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[08:38] <rbs-tito> Does anyone know the URL of that website which shows how many bugs are open in ubuntu?
[08:39] <ScottK> rbs-tito: It'll be in launchpad somewhere.
[08:40] <rbs-tito> Should be put bug 56283 out of its misery?
[08:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 56283 in cdrtools "Writing CDs stopped working" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/56283
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122171 in network-manager-applet (main) "[gutsy]  nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122171
[08:41] <Neolithium> That's an old bug LOL
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[08:42] <rbs-tito> I know, I'm going through the dusty corners of Launchpad
[08:43] <coNP> rbs-tito: are you against a dusty gibbon? :)
[08:43] <rbs-tito> LMAO!
[08:43] <rbs-tito> But really, can we kill it?
[08:43] <rbs-tito> I mean, it isn't going anywhere.
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[08:45] <rbs-tito> I'm going to squash it, any objections?
[08:45] <Neolithium> Ok, advice:  I think that bugs 121795 and 122171 are related to 121605; seems like everyone is segfaulting the nm applet thanks to the keyring manager.
[08:45] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121795 in network-manager-applet "wants to access the password for '' in (null)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121795
[08:45] <coNP> rbs-tito: ask the user for confirmation
[08:45] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122171 in network-manager-applet "[gutsy]  nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122171
[08:45] <rbs-tito> OK
[08:45] <coNP> dapper is LTS, hopefully isn't affected any more
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122168 in audacity (universe) "audacity segfaults and dumps on load" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122168
[08:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122172 in langpack-locales (main) "printer paper size should be defined with locale settings" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122172
[08:46] <coNP> also possible to search for duplicates that might provide more info
[08:46] <Neolithium> I'd say close it with this comment:  We are closing this bug report as it lacks the information, described in the previous comments, we need to investigate the problem further. However, please reopen it if you can give us the missing information and don't hesitate to submit bug reports in the future.
[08:46] <Neolithium> Provided it wasn't a dupe.
[08:46] <coNP> Neolithium: no previous comments
[08:46] <coNP> it is a typical "needs info" --> incomplete bug
=== coNP loves "needs info" so much because describes the situation very nicely
[08:47] <Neolithium> Oh, ok. I just swiped the blurb off the bug responses page. I love copy and paste sometimes LOL
=== coNP loves also
[08:47] <coNP> but first check the bug :)
[08:47] <Neolithium> Anyone else have a consensus for those 2 bugs I listed?
[08:48] <Neolithium> Hmmm, firefox update. Hopefully it's fixed firefox so that I can use bookmarks again LOL
[08:50] <bdmurray> bug 121605
[08:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121605 in network-manager-applet "(gutsy]  segfault on joining secure network" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121605
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[08:51] <bdmurray> Neolithium: 121795 does look like a dup
=== Neolithium nods, "I think that the bug you just listed should be the parent, it has the most info, probably request another backtrace so it can get confirmed."
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[08:56] <bdmurray> I think there are some more even
[08:56] <bdmurray> I submitted one about it
[09:04] <Neolithium> 121543 is a dupe of that one too, I think
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122175 in vlc (universe) "Please add Java Bindings" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122175
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[09:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122174 in gforge (universe) "packge gforge does not install properly (dup-of: 1489)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122174
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[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122177 in gedit (main) "Remember Autocheck Spelling per file" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122177
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122180 in evolution (main) "Unable to access Global Access List" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122180
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122178 in gnome-panel (main) "nm-applet crashes upon "allow access to keyring"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122178
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #122182 in kdebase (main) "ASSERT error in Konqueror" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122182
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #122183 in plr (universe) "postgresql-8.1-plr for Feisty missing plr.so and plr.sql" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122183
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[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122184 in Ubuntu "The Ubunutu installer crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122184
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[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122186 in ekiga (main) "getting the error Registration fail : Timed out and unable to use pc to phone  diamond" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122186
[10:18] <Neolithium> how are the numbers doing?
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[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122187 in brasero (universe) "[gutsy]  Brasero 0.5.90 fails to build on ppc and sparc" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122187
[10:22] <Neolithium> Anyone on the QA team here? I think we have another wishlist addition.
[10:24] <coNP> Neolithium: yep
[10:24] <coNP> Neolithium: which bug
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122189 in gthumb (main) "gThumb 2.10.5 is available" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122189
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[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122188 in firefox (main) "crash firefox" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122188
[10:27] <Neolithium> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gthumb/+bug/122189
[10:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122189 in gthumb "gThumb 2.10.5 is available" [Undecided,New] 
[10:27] <Neolithium> Someone just giving the link to the new gthumb that was released. LOL
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[10:53] <Neolithium> Bug 122175 is another wishlist item :)
[10:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122175 in vlc "Please add Java Bindings" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122175
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[11:00] <Neolithium> Another wishlist for anyone who has the power to make it so: Bug #122193
[11:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122193 in pybridge "Please update to latest version" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122193
[11:00] <coNP> Neolithium: apply for QA
[11:00] <coNP> :)
[11:00] <crimsun> When on Ubuntu host, it will looks for a win32 Java compiler  i.e. javac.exe and will
[11:00] <crimsun> try to compile javac.exe Test.java.
[11:00] <crimsun> That's bloody brilliant!
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122191 in audacity (universe) "Ubuntu Gutsy Audacity crash " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122191
[11:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122192 in glade-3 (universe) "Finnish translation missing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122192
[11:01] <coNP> crimsun: which is this congenial package?
[11:01] <crimsun> ...yeah, I'm itching to mark that one Won't Fix
[11:01] <crimsun> coNP: 122175
[11:02] <Neolithium> rofl
[11:02] <Neolithium> coNP : I haven't been triaging bugs long enough. :)
[11:02] <crimsun> (un)fortunately it seems you can simply symlink the native javac to javac.exe
[11:03] <crimsun> debian/rules for vlc is already nasty enough; making it worse isn't going to make my day
[11:03] <ScottK> Neolithium: Put together 5 good ones you've done and let bdmurray be the decider of that.
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[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122193 in pybridge (universe) "Please update to latest version" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122193
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[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122195 in postfix (main) "Ubuntu mail headers are not best practice" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122195
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122196 in apport (main) "apport-qt crashed with IOError in get_module_license()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122196
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[11:24] <markvandenborre> is there any specific information I can help provide to squash https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/122133 ?
[11:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122133 in Ubuntu "dapper->feisty regression: synaptics touchpad not properly configured" [Undecided,Incomplete] 
[11:25] <markvandenborre> I just added the requested general kernel and pci info
[11:25] <bdmurray> markvandenborre: looking
[11:27] <bdmurray> Have you tried using the dapper xorg.conf with Feisty?
[11:27] <markvandenborre> bdmurray, it's not that I don't have it working
[11:28] <markvandenborre> it's that I want this problem solved for others
[11:28] <Neolithium> bdmurray I was going to try that as well, since I have a synaptics touchpad and can confirm the bug.
[11:28] <markvandenborre> it works perfectly if I paste the right sections
[11:28] <markvandenborre> but I can't expect my grandmother to do that, can I?
[11:29] <bdmurray> markvandenborre: depends on your grandmother. ;) but I see your point
[11:29] <Neolithium> LOL
[11:30] <markvandenborre> hell, I'm LPI and ubuntu certified and stuff, this is just for the Good Cause (TM)
[11:31] <markvandenborre> because for myself, the problem is solved
[11:31] <coNP> what is LPI? Launchpad-Integrated? :)
[11:31] <bdmurray> markvandenborre: out of curiousity if you run 'dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' does it configure it properly?
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[11:32] <markvandenborre> bdmurray, damn man, it suggests me vesa...
[11:33] <Neolithium> LOL
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[11:34] <bdmurray> but what about the touchpad?
[11:34] <markvandenborre> bdmurray, but it _does_
[11:34] <markvandenborre> detect the touchpad correctly, or so it seems
[11:34] <Neolithium> Hmmm
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[11:35] <bdmurray> that is probably useful could you update the report?
[11:35] <markvandenborre> to be honest, it probably just throws it in in any laptop case
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[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122197 in Ubuntu "Upgrade Manager failed from 6.10 to 7.04" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122197
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122198 in Ubuntu "Using PCMCIA CF-card reader makes computer unusable while transferring files" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122198
[11:36] <coNP> good night bughuggers
[11:36] <harrisony> more bugs!
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[11:38] <Neolithium> bdmurray Think the package should be changed to xserver?
[11:39] <bdmurray> Neolithium: probably it might be discover-data though if it was misconfigured on install
[11:39] <harrisony> If a bug is related to a Ubuntu directive, should the bug to to Ubuntu or the derivative
[11:39] <bdmurray> It depends on the bug.
[11:40] <markvandenborre> bdmurray, good night, and thanks for the help
[11:41] <harrisony> 122197 failed upgrade, LinuxMCE which is pretty much Ubuntu with MythTv installed
[11:41] <markvandenborre> oh, and if someone could update the bug status from "incomplete"
[11:41] <markvandenborre> that would be nice...
[11:41] <Neolithium> Oh, the one we were just talking about 122133 :)
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[11:41] <harrisony> err wait i read the bug wrong nvm
[11:41] <bdmurray> markvandenborre: thank you for helping too
[11:42] <bdmurray> bug 122197
[11:42] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122197 in Ubuntu "Upgrade Manager failed from 6.10 to 7.04" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122197
[11:43] <harrisony> they tried linuxmce and it didnt work and they updated kubuntu :P (too early in the morning!) ill go get some food
[11:43] <bdmurray> I don't see why they even mentioned mce
[11:43] <bdmurray> If I am reading it right it seems irrelevant
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[11:44] <ScottK> bdmurray: Are you up for suggestions on packages to add to the list for the server hug day?
[11:44] <bdmurray> harrisony: however the bug should be moved to update-manager
[11:44] <harrisony> The MCE part is ....... and it always helps when people upload the logs and not paste them (56k != big pastes)
[11:44] <harrisony> ok thanks bdmurray
[11:45] <bdmurray> ScottK: Feel free to add stuff to the wiki page.  My only caveat is that it not be too long.
[11:45] <bdmurray> ScottK: Or did you have queries in mind?
[11:45] <ScottK> I had a list of packages in mind.
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122200 in Ubuntu "cannot burn cd's" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122200
[11:46] <ScottK> courier, courier-authdaemon, dovecot, and the cyrus bits for mail server related stuff.
[11:47] <bdmurray> ScottK: I'd check with the server team then, particularly the names mentioned in the annoucement.
[11:47] <ScottK> OK
[11:47] <ScottK> bdmurray: Are you going to add the other ones listed in the announcement to the page like you did for Postfix?
[11:48] <bdmurray> ScottK: some bugs from them tomorrow morning and queries to the untriaged ones
[11:48] <bdmurray> s/queries/urls/
[11:48] <ScottK> OK
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[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122199 in ubiquity (main) "GRUB failed to install in hd0 at the end of installation CD" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122199
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122201 in Ubuntu "no backup/restore button on default Gnome panel for desktop systems" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122201
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122202 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "USB audio broken after hibernate" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122202
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