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=== Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Documentation Team http://doc.ubuntu.com or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | Get involved! http://www.mdke.org/?p=67 | backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu CoC @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | Next meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda
=== Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by crimsun at Sat Dec 30 01:13:50 2006
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=== Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Documentation Team http://doc.ubuntu.com or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam | Get involved! http://www.mdke.org/?p=67 | backlog at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs | SVN - https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos | Please observe the Ubuntu CoC @ http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct | Next meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/MeetingAgenda
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beeman_nlhi folk... in this page ( https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html ) there is a link to the example preseed01:50
beeman_nlbut when you click it, you'll get a 404...01:50
beeman_nli could'nt find a colofon on the help site, someone from #ubuntu pointed me to this channel01:51
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beeman_nli'm trying to create a bug report at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-doc/   but i can't seem to add one...01:55
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ian_brasilhi ...i am checking out the svn doc trunk and I received svn co https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk/.02:06
ian_brasilError validating server certificate for 'https://docteam.ubuntu.com:443':02:06
ian_brasil - The certificate is not issued by a trusted authority. Use the02:06
ian_brasil   fingerprint to validate the certificate manually!02:06
ian_brasil02:06
ian_brasilany ideas?02:10
beeman_nlian_brasil: i myself have no trouble checking it out...02:13
ian_brasilmaybe you have already accepted the certificate?02:16
beeman_nlno, it is the first time i co it02:17
beeman_nland it is valid till october '0702:17
beeman_nlso that shouldn't be a problem...02:17
ian_brasilMmm02:23
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ian_brasilthe standard workflow ifor documentation s checkout svn, edit docbook, create diff (if without committ rights to svn)...e-mail patch to ubuntu-doc list ??03:42
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esethi, when is the next meeting for the documentation team?06:42
nixternaleset: we are waiting for mdke_ to get back after all of his wedding stuff, so hopefully in the next couple of weeks, we will post the date and time on the fridge as well as the mailing list06:45
esetok, thanks06:49
eseti was wondering how the doc team feels about collaborating with other writing projects?07:01
esethas there been collaboration like this in the past?07:02
nixternalthere have been attempts07:02
nixternalwhat kind of writing project are you referring to?07:03
eseta wiki for writing free manuals about free software07:03
eseti established one last year but i have just started working on it in earnest07:04
esetand it seems the ubuntu teams docs and the manuals in the wiki compliment each other quite well07:04
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nixternaleset: they don't complement each other as much as we would like just yet07:08
nixternalhopefully one day they will be exactly where we want them07:08
esetah, i meant the manuals in the wiki i work on and the ubuntu docs complimen teach other quite well07:09
esetand since the world of documentation writing is small, but growing, combining efforts might be a good idea07:10
nixternalthey are definitely getting better for sure...but something like your idea would be a great topic during our next meeting07:10
esetokedoke07:10
esethow does somehting get on the agenda?07:11
nixternaldunno about combining efforts, but the licensing allows it to occur. most of our documentors tend to have lives, except for me..I am currently documenting KDE and Kubuntu, so I tend to get stretched thin on projects :)07:11
esethehe...i bet07:11
nixternaleset: when we announce the meeting, we will setup a page on the wiki to add items to07:11
esetok07:11
eseti will keep an eye on the announcement then07:12
esetand in the meantime i will focus on writing some more docs too ;)07:12
nixternalrock on!07:12
nixternalgimme a link to the wiki you have07:12
esetok... -> www.flossmanuals.net07:13
nixternalhehe, nice name07:13
esethehe, thanks07:13
esetwelcome any feedback07:13
nixternalI just started a domain flossyard which will bring in various stale floss projects to one location to give new developers something to work on07:13
esetnice!07:13
esetseems we think alike...there is a lot already done if it can only be found easily....07:14
nixternalwhere is emacs at under the text editors in the cli stuff ;p07:14
esethehe...yeah yeah07:15
esetu can always add it ;)07:15
esetbut im a vim guy07:15
nixternalman, I was at Barcamp Chicago this weekend, and a lot of people still use Pico, which is Nano really07:15
esetcant do anything about it07:15
esetyeah...i really like them both..really simple07:15
esetwhen i was using pine it all worked so well....07:16
nixternal95-98 I was an Emacs guy, then working for Sun Microsystems I became a Vi guy, now I am whatever mood I am in :)07:16
esetha! well, i know i will _never_ get the emacs virus, ever07:16
nixternalahh Pine, the good old days. I just recently gave up Mutt for Kontact/KMail07:16
esetactually i settled for evolution (blush)07:17
eseti went on a trip for 3 months with very little connectivity and had to have it all local07:17
esetso downloaded 7 years of email07:17
esetyowser07:17
nixternalouch07:18
esetrekin07:18
nixternalI used to use Evolution back when the Ximian desktop was out...that was some pretty nasty days, but I think it did quite a bit for the Linux desktop considering the time07:19
eseti like it...its pretty stable and simple to use...its fine...but i dont feel so geeky using it...its like buying and older, chumpier car07:19
nixternalhehe07:19
nixternalI still like Evolution over Thunderbird though, and actually Evolution doesn't crash as much as KMail does :)07:20
eseti have to say evolution hasnt crashed once for me07:20
nixternalbut I play it safe, I use KMail for POP accounts, that way there I don't have to worry about losing email07:20
eseti just used it only 7 months or so07:20
esetooo....my pizza is calling...smells good.....07:21
esetyum!07:21
esetok...better run...i am on the mailing list...so i will look for an announcement about the meeting07:22
esetim keen for some kind of synergy if there is a possibility07:22
esetthe more fusion the better i rekin07:22
nixternaltalk to ya later, I need to run myself07:23
esetok, cu :)07:23
beeman_nlguys, on this page there is a link to the example preseed.txt, but that link doesnt work... https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html07:34
beeman_nlwhere should i report that?07:35
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ian_brasilcan anyone recommend a docbook editor?10:22
nixternalian_brasil: there isn't one. gEdit, Kate, Quanta, Bluefish, Vi, Emacs, all have syntax highlighters and indentation configurations, that is about as good as you can get10:44
ian_brasilok, thx10:46
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