[12:01] <swejax> slavik: ok I'll try that, thankx
[12:01] <Paranoiak> Hi everybody
[12:01] <demian> anything
[12:01] <GuyFromHell> Is there anything special i should know for mounting a VFAT based mp3 player? Currently i plug it in and it doesn't seem writeable.
[12:01] <ibanex> erUSUL: oops your right
[12:01] <demian> ibanex: it doesn't open in feisty
[12:01] <demian> not even if i press the eject button
[12:01] <slavik> demian: how old is this system and how is the drive connected?
[12:01] <Ind[y] > I have two bashrc files. I want the one to be used when I am on the console, and the other when I am on terminals and stuff. How can I do this?
[12:01] <GuyFromHell> (permissions look fine, rwx------ with my username as owner)
[12:01] <erUSUL> ibanex: i know ;) it is curse (being allways right of course) XP
[12:02] <ibanex> demian: did you install feisty with the same cd rom drive?
[12:02] <slavik> Ind[y] : how comfortable are you with scripting?
[12:02] <demian> yes
[12:02] <ibanex> erUSUL, : )
[12:02] <slavik> demian: is this a new system?
[12:02] <demian> ibanex: that's what bugs me
[12:02] <Ind[y] > slavik: with bash not very much
[12:02] <demian> new as in pc or in feitsy install
[12:02] <graigsmith> this is really weird, if i do the manual f-spot import, it sees the pef image files. if i just stick the camera card in, it only sees jpegs, and ignores the pef files. any clue why only the import from camera dialog box is doing this?
[12:02] <erUSUL> Ind[y] : that's why there is .bashrc and .bash_profile
[12:03] <msl> demian: It sounds as though the cdrom is still mounted, and you cannot use the eject button on your cdrom when it is mounted.
[12:03] <demian> no it's not that
[12:03] <vasudeva> i've messed something up with my system, and now when i reboot, i end up in what looks like single-user mode. i have to 'telinit 2' to get anywhere useful. is there a collection of the base startup scripts and such, that i can apt-get, to make sure i've got what i need? i'm on feisty.
[12:03] <demian> :)
[12:03] <SJrX> I'm using Kubuntu but no one seems to have an answer for me. My Mouse wheel isn't working in X. Any ideas on how to fix it?
[12:03] <Fredneck> i used sudo cp -a to copy my hard drive's contents to an external drive - it seems to still be going, but I suspect it's not doing anything anymore. Is there anyway to tell?
[12:03] <slavik> erUSUL: which gets executed when?
[12:03] <ibanex> demian: sudo eject /dev/cdrom ???
[12:03] <Ind[y] > erUSUL: .bash_profile is for terminals xterms, and stuffs?
[12:03] <demian> It doesn't even show up in sudo lshw -C disk
[12:03] <slavik> Fredneck: does the ext. drive lights flash?
[12:04] <sx66> how do I install pidgin?
[12:04] <dezine> nevermind :)
[12:04] <demian> it's a very old compaq presario
[12:04] <sx66> sudo what?
[12:04] <dezine> used google
[12:04] <dezine> :D
[12:04] <Flannel> !pidgin | sx66
[12:04] <ubotu> sx66: pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[12:04] <slavik> demian: old is good :P
[12:04] <Jowi> GuyFromHell, does "mount" also show the device with (rw) permissions and a umask value?
[12:04] <Fredneck> slavik: there's only one light and it's staying on
[12:04] <demian> well.... I'd like a newer system
[12:04] <slavik> Fredneck: what is that light supposed to indicate?
[12:04] <Fredneck> slavik: I think it just means it's on
[12:04] <GuyFromHell> Jowi, yea, in fact the mount line (i thought ahead) is at http://pastebin.com/935531
[12:04] <Jowi> GuyFromHell, example what my "mount" command show: /dev/sdb1 on /media/Sony type vfat (rw,gid=46,umask=007)
[12:05] <GuyFromHell> Jowi, or maybe not, depending how pastebin is feeling
[12:05] <slavik> Fredneck: the terminal where you issued the cp command, is it back to a promt?
[12:05] <Fredneck> slavik: no, it's still thinking
[12:05] <erUSUL> slavik: Ind[y]  i never remember look here http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/1182-difference-between-bashrc-bash_profile.html
[12:05] <Fredneck> slavik: I'm looking at KDE system guard, and cp is listed as taking using a small amount of System%
[12:06] <Fredneck> slavik: But I've checked the properties of the folder I'm copying to, and the total number of files hasn't changed in hours
[12:06] <ubuntuEdgy> hi what is "tiger"
[12:06] <slavik> Fredneck: then I guess something is "stuck"
[12:06] <demian> http://pastebin.com/935540
[12:06] <demian> it's not there
[12:06] <slavik> gstat is so nice in fbsd :P
[12:06] <mecca> what up people? i'm running edgy on my laptop and i'm unable to display my screen on an lcd monitor using my lcd/crt fn key.  is there a way to get my fn keys working or does anyone have a workaround?
[12:06] <Fredneck> slavik: okay, that's what I thought
[12:07] <demian> mecca: install feisty fwan
[12:07] <sx66> so, on pidgin, how do I download it? I go to the page and it does not list ubuntu package.
[12:07] <bruenig> demian, that won't help
[12:07] <ubuntuEdgy> !tiger
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tiger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <bruenig> I have the same problem actually
[12:07] <slavik> Fredneck: you can always kill it and use nautilus instead ... that way you get a progress bar :)
[12:07] <demian> bruenig: what won't work?
[12:08] <bruenig> the fn key thing to adjust monitory brightness
[12:08] <Fredneck> slavik: yeah, I will, I got the bulk of it moved anyway
[12:08] <bruenig> monitor*
[12:08] <ibanex> sx66: you can get dependencies and compile it
[12:08] <erUSUL> Ind[y] : this seems to be more clear http://wm161.net/2007/02/14/bash_profile-vs-bashrc/
[12:08] <demian> it works on my girls accer a6000
[12:08] <GuyFromHell> Jowi, thus i am confused, any light you can shed?
[12:08] <demian> with feisty
[12:08] <demian> that's all I know ;)
[12:08] <Jowi> GuyFromHell, the "utf8" option is for iso9660 and not for vfat
[12:08] <Jowi> GuyFromHell, the "nodev" option might also screw it up
[12:09] <slavik> Ind[y] : basically, when you log in, you can have a .xsessionrc (or .xsession, google for actual name) to change the symlink to point to the proper file, and also have in .profile a line to change the symlink to another version of .bashrc file
[12:09] <mecca> i've got a sony vaio
[12:09] <GuyFromHell> Jowi, it was mounted by gnome-volume-manager, do you know how i can change the settings under that circumstance?
[12:09] <sx66> ibanex: what is dependencies?
[12:09] <speedo_> Is there a Frontpage like application for linux ?
[12:09] <slavik> speedo_: no (thank god)
[12:09] <juan278> when i try and compile summit i get " Can't find X includes." what should i do is there a package i can install
[12:09] <erUSUL> speedo_: nvu ?
[12:10] <SJrX> speedo_ yes there is, try bluefish
[12:10] <slavik> speedo_: check out winefish if you want to write html/php/other code
[12:10] <cipy> hi
[12:10] <Jowi> GuyFromHell, unfortunatley I don't use gnome...
[12:10] <slavik> or bluefish, I forget the name
[12:10] <slavik> one of them is a web page editor, the other is for latex
[12:10] <GuyFromHell> Jowi, okay, i'll do a bit of research then and be back
[12:10] <speedo_> SJrX: I just downloaded bluefish and it doesn't do what I want to do
[12:10] <cipy> I want to install the compiz eye candy stuff, what do you recommend Xgl or AIXGL ?
[12:11] <speedo_> haven't tried winefish
[12:11] <SJrX> well what do you want it to do?
[12:11] <erUSUL> cipy: aiglx if your card support it (anything but ati-fglrx)
[12:11] <speedo_> I want to creat simple web pages fast ........ frontpage made that possible ...... I want simple but fast application in linux
[12:12] <Ind[y] > erUSUL: thanks, worked
[12:12] <Cain_UnAbel> what codec does totem need to play .mov files?
[12:12] <Ind[y] > slavik: thank you for the info
[12:12] <erUSUL> Ind[y] : no problem
[12:12] <SJrX> speedo_ openoffice?
[12:12] <schreck> I just got Ubuntu installed using the text-based installer, but nothing shows up on the screen...any ideas?
[12:12] <SJrX> lets you save in HTML
[12:13] <juan278> speedo_: how simple? would a word processor be good enough?
[12:13] <SJrX> speedo_ I think you might have more luck asking in #html or #php or something
[12:13] <Cain_UnAbel> i've installed all the codecs from the wiki help file
[12:13] <Cain_UnAbel> but totem still cant plaly alot of media formats
[12:13] <speedo_> SJrX: download nvu
[12:13] <madsporkmurderer> in trying to repair a windows box with a live disk, i have tried to copy a file to a hard drive. I keep getting the error that it is a read only file system even though mount -l lists it as rw
[12:13] <speedo_> thanks for your input guys
[12:13] <SJrX> hmmmm
[12:13] <SJrX> why nvu?
[12:13] <SJrX> I don't like those things
[12:13] <SJrX> I have dreamweaver at work
[12:13] <SJrX> I prefer editing the HTML manually
[12:14] <SJrX> and having someone else make it look good :P
[12:14] <prueba> que lo tiro
[12:14] <demian> can anyone help me with my cdrom player.. plz
[12:14] <speedo_> SJrX: I gotta try it out
[12:14] <schreck> personally, I use eclipse's PDT for PHP apps...works well enough
[12:14] <prueba> yo no puedo
[12:14] <erUSUL> !es | prueba
[12:14] <ubotu> prueba: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:14] <demian> I've always got the weirdest problems
[12:14] <juan278> speedo_: for something a bit harder i used screem but didnt really do much and there was another 1 i cant rember that i quite liked
[12:15] <aabrahao> hi,  I Just need to load ther interfaces values, any one?
[12:15] <linxeh> I use aptana in eclipse for html / javascript
[12:15] <mnk0> hey sup
[12:15] <mnk0> anyone using eclipse+tomcat in fiesty ??
[12:16] <madsporkmurderer> in trying to repair a windows box with a live disk, i have tried to copy a file to a hard drive. I keep getting the error that it is a read only file system even though mount -l lists it as rw. How is this happening and how can I sort it
[12:16] <schreck> is there a "safe mode" that I can use to diagnose ubuntu startup probs?
[12:16] <ShackJack> Quick question Ubuntities - where can I adjust the number of virtual desktops? I want to turn them off and just have one. I can't find them for the life of me in the Prefs (not using Compiz/Beryl)
[12:16] <gabriel_> hola
[12:16] <mnk0> ShackJack: single user mode
[12:16] <mnk0> add -s to the boot up sscript
[12:16] <vasudeva> can i get anyone to paste their /etc/fstab into pastebin.com for me?
[12:17] <changeme> everytime I reboot I need to reinstall the nvidia driver for X to work.  What keeps blowing away my drivers?
[12:17] <Flannel> schreck: Under "sessions" at GDM, safe gnome.  or, failsafe gnome, or whatever the actual wording is.
[12:17] <ShackJack> mnk0: You mean to the session script? How many desktop does vanilla ubuntu have to begin with?
[12:17] <mnk0> ShackJack:  no the grub boot up script
[12:17] <schreck> Flannel: how can I get to that?
[12:17] <jamman> schreck, when you are booting up, there will be something that says "press esc to acess the grub menu" or something like that. then select the repair one. (thats not exact)
[12:17] <mnk0> ShackJack: push E
[12:17] <erUSUL> chalcedony: how do you (re)install them?
[12:17] <mnk0> to edit
[12:17] <mnk0> and then add -s
[12:18] <binskipy2u> anyone here using MINT linux?
[12:18] <schreck> I didnt see that option,...went straight to loading ubuntu
[12:18] <Jowi> speedo_, the mozilla seamonkey suit has got a html editor. nvu is also wysiwyg but a bit more complex.
[12:18] <Flannel> schreck: At GDM (the login screen), hit "sessions" and choose failsafe/safe/whatever
[12:18] <jamman> schreck, you must be fast.
[12:18] <jamman> schreck, right after post.
[12:18] <Flannel> jamman: that's not what he wants.  He wants no startup scripts, not single user mode.
[12:18] <Cain_UnAbel> what codec do i need to get totem to play .mov formats?
[12:18] <speedo_> Jowi: I was just looking at that
[12:18] <speedo_> thanks though
[12:18] <Jowi> speedo_, http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/
[12:18] <Jowi> ok
[12:18] <ShackJack> mnk0: Gotcha - I guess I can go right into menu.1st and tack it on to the end of /boot/initrd... etc...
[12:19] <binskipy2u> anyone here go from ubuntu 7.04 to MINT linux?(buntu based)
[12:19] <mnk0> ShackJack: yeha thats right
[12:19] <erUSUL> !mp3 | Cain_UnAbel
[12:19] <binskipy2u> if so whatcha think?
[12:19] <ubotu> Cain_UnAbel: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:19] <mnk0> ahhh
[12:19] <mnk0> anyone familiar with tomcat/ecliipse ?!?
[12:19] <mnk0> heh
[12:19] <graigsmith> i have a problem with f-spot, anyone an fspot expert?
[12:19] <jamman> Flannel, sorry. i must have read it much different than you did.
[12:19] <aabrahao> hi,  I Just need to load ther interfaces values, any one?
[12:19] <Cain_UnAbel> i've already installed all the codecs from the help file erUSUL
[12:19] <Cain_UnAbel> w32
[12:19] <vasudeva> is it possible to get ubuntu to regenerate /etc/fstab??
[12:20] <jamman> Cain_UnAbel, try automatix, http://getautomatix.com
[12:20] <pepe__> mnk0: what do u wanna know ?
[12:20] <qnyc> aabrahao, what do you mean?
[12:20] <INIT_6_> any ideas on this? When copying files from a samba share on my friends suse linux box to my ubuntu box. the speed goes from 18mb/s for about 1min the stalls for about a min. Is this just becuase my ram/swap is getting full and it has to write that to the drive so it stops?
[12:20] <mnk0> pepe__: having problems with the installation
[12:20] <IndyGunFreak> Cain_UnAbel: what are you trying to play?
[12:20] <buddy> what is better: sempron 1.8 or celeron M 1.73 with 1mb cache L2?
[12:20] <Cain_UnAbel> .mov and .divx in totem
[12:20] <Flannel> !automatix | Cain_UnAbel, jamman
[12:20] <IndyGunFreak> !automatix | jamman Cain_UnAbel
[12:20] <ubotu> Cain_UnAbel, jamman: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:20] <pepe__> ok, what's the problem ?
[12:20] <ubotu> jamman Cain_UnAbel: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:20] <mnk0> pepe__: i get a blank page when i goto http://localhost:8180/
[12:20] <IndyGunFreak> Flannel: pinch poke, you owe me a coke
[12:20] <mnk0> pepe__: also , in eclipse when i try to run as server, i can't selec the home directory
[12:21] <aabrahao> I changed the interfaces value for an ip, and I restart the networking and dont the thes new value
[12:21] <qnyc> aabrahao, ifconfig
[12:21] <ShackJack> IndyGunFreak: Automatix site says their thing doesn't break ubuntu as it doesn't use force :)
[12:21] <gabriel_> hola alguien habla espaol
[12:21] <IndyGunFreak> ShackJack: Microsofts site say their software is fast and bug free
[12:21] <pepe__> sorry no idea
[12:21] <linuxnub> !gtk
[12:21] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[12:21] <graigsmith> as if installing things wasn't easy enuf, i never saw the use for automatix.
[12:21] <erUSUL> !es | gabriel_
[12:21] <raf256> !es | gabriel_
[12:21] <ubotu> gabriel_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:21] <jamman> hey, how good would a two year old dual xeon server be?
[12:21] <aabrahao> But I change the interfaces, do I need to use ifconfig?
[12:21] <Music_Shuffle> jamman, for?
[12:21] <ShackJack> IndyGunFreak: Oh, but it is ;)
[12:21] <gabriel_> gracias es que soy un nuevo XD
[12:21] <mecca> mnk0: try 8080
[12:21] <linuxnub> !.dll
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <IndyGunFreak> ShackJack: my point exactly.
[12:22] <mnk0> mecca: the post in server.xml is 8180
[12:22] <erUSUL> raf256: XD o/
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> ShackJack: my disdain for automtix isn't as passionate as many, but there's been enough problems, i pay attention.
[12:22] <qnyc> aabrahao, to reload you can do ifdown ethX && ifup ethX
[12:22] <citronbleu-v> gabriel_ es spanish
[12:22] <IndyGunFreak> most of them seem to come when people try to upgrade.
[12:22] <jamman> Music_Shuffle, web, possibly windows file server. most likely web server using debian with zencart as the webpage (it's a free shopping cart software)
[12:22] <citronbleu-v> ?
[12:22] <citronbleu-v> :)
[12:22] <Music_Shuffle> jamman, sounds like a plan to me :D
[12:23] <jamman> Music_Shuffle, got it at a yard sale for 35$!
[12:23] <linuxnub> how do you make a seperate channel to query ubotu on so you dont flood this one
[12:23] <IndyGunFreak> nice deal
[12:23] <mnk0> also when i netstat -npl
[12:23] <citronbleu-v> i am french and i am happy
[12:23] <mnk0> tcp6       0      0 :::8180                 :::*                    LISTEN     18745/jsvc.exec
[12:23] <jamman> Music_Shuffle, SCSI, tho. how easy is it to set up? anybody know?
[12:23] <citronbleu-v> o_o
[12:23] <erUSUL> linuxnub: /msg ubotu factoid
[12:23] <mnk0> would suggest that server is listening on 8180
[12:23] <linuxnub> k
[12:23] <IndyGunFreak> linux_probe: just find Ubotu in the user menu, and righ tclick, then send him a private message
[12:23] <Paranoiak> i am french too and i am also happy :D
[12:23] <Music_Shuffle> jamman, nothing that a little Google + #ubuntu can't outwit.  ;)
[12:23] <Pelo> linuxnub,  /msg ubotu !whatever
[12:23] <jamman> Music_Shuffle, amen brother.
[12:23] <citronbleu-v> lol
[12:24] <Fredneck> I'm reinstalling kubuntu - i'd like to have a separate /home partition but I don't know how to do that
[12:24] <asdf_> Can anyone point me to a guide on how to get setup with gmail FS?
[12:24] <IndyGunFreak> asdf_: gmail fs?
[12:24] <Pelo> asdf_,  FS ?
[12:24] <jamman> Music_Shuffle, it was an awesome deal. about 250 gigs worth of 10000 rpm scsi drives, and a water cooled computer, LOADS of other computer stuff. the guy has a server buisness and this was too old.
[12:24] <Cain_UnAbel> how do i set xchat to use firefox or opera for open in browser?
[12:24] <jamman> Music_Shuffle, all for 50 $.
[12:24] <DjQczonE> hello, I want to know if I can run and install xubuntu on my old PII 233mhz, 128mb ram ?? Thank you :)
[12:24] <kitche> IndyGunFreak Pelo filesystem most likely
[12:25] <ShackJack> DjQczonE: yep :)
[12:25] <IndyGunFreak> ah,probably
[12:25] <mnk0> jamman: omg thats sick
[12:25] <asdf_> IndyGunFreak, Pelo: GmailFS is a mountable file system for Gmail
[12:25] <strtochar[] > Is there a command line version of Limewire or something similar?
[12:25] <Music_Shuffle> jamman, nice going :D  Now gogo Ubuntu it!
[12:25] <yrth> hello everybody :) does anybody know how to change permission to the entire partition?
[12:25] <jamman> mnk0, heck yeah. my deal of the day.
[12:25] <Pelo> Cain_UnAbel, menu > system > prefs > default aps or something
[12:25] <ShackJack> DjQczonE: you should try to find another ram stick for it ideally...
[12:25] <Gurgeh> hello... i just installed this program looking for something else... but.. since i'm here, does anybody knows where i can get de wxPython modules?
[12:25] <jrib> yrth: what filesystem?
[12:25] <Cain_UnAbel> thanks Pelo
[12:25] <jamman> Music_Shuffle, probly debian, stable, safe, familiar, its all good.
[12:26] <DjQczonE> ShackJack: Ok and what they do mean by the "Alternate Install CD" ??? (I'm just a little bit confused between the LiveCD and the install CD)
[12:26] <yrth> jrib :) oh hello again :) it's ext3
[12:26] <jamman> Music_Shuffle, my father wants to use MS server 2003 tho... :(
[12:26] <DjQczonE> ShackJack: Yeah I know, but will it run fine with 132, or it could be slow...
[12:26] <ShackJack> DjQczonE: It's a CD that's not a "Live" CD - Live CD runs the OS when you boot from it and you can install from there...
[12:26] <chiri> hola
[12:26] <Music_Shuffle> jamman, ouch.  Talk him into sense.  :)
[12:26] <ShackJack> DjQczonE: alternate CD is text-mode installer...
[12:26] <jrib> yrth: you can pass the -R switch to chown or chmod for it to apply recursively, make sure you only do this on the mounted partition and not for system files
[12:26] <Cain_UnAbel> has anyone had a problem with frostwire connecting to the network
[12:27] <DjQczonE> ShackJack: Ok thank you :)
[12:27] <chiri> alguien me puede ayudar
[12:27] <jamman> Music_Shuffle, he just bought this thing called ms action pack with 10 copies of vista buisness, mysql server, ms server 2003, etc. for 300 bucks.
[12:27] <buddy>  what is better: sempron 1.8 or celeron M 1.73 with 1mb cache L2? for a notebook.. to run ubuntu?
[12:27] <Music_Shuffle> oh ok
[12:27] <buddy> someone know?
[12:27] <Pelo> jamman,  if you give us your father's adress we can send someone over to "explain" things to him,  I think Guido is available
[12:27] <schreck> what would cause a new install not to boot to the gui?
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> buddy: either one will run Ubuntu fine.
[12:27] <jamman> Music_Shuffle, good deal, but i want him to use debian for the web.
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> you'll notice little difference
[12:28] <pepe__> celeron
[12:28] <Cain_UnAbel> i tried dapper on a sempron buddy
[12:28] <jamman> Pelo, Guido?
[12:28] <ShackJack> buddy: They'll both do just fine, really...
[12:28] <Cain_UnAbel> kind of slow imo
[12:28] <qnyc> !es | chiri
[12:28] <ubotu> chiri: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:28] <yrth> jrib, it's a separate partition that I've got for arch docs... and can't write anything unless I sudo it
[12:28] <andrewkk> can i allow normal users to mount a starcraft iso without needing sudo privilages?
[12:28] <Jowi> DjQczonE, you need 192MB for the desktop-cd. use the alternate one (text based install that requres less ram).
[12:28] <Pelo> buddy,  intel is very reilable for ubuntu
[12:28] <chiri> gracias
[12:28] <Pelo> jamman,  , generic italian mafia enforcer
[12:28] <IndyGunFreak> Cain_UnAbel: how much memory did you have?
[12:28] <jrib> yrth: do you want to just make your user the owner?
[12:28] <jamman> Pelo, i see... lol.
[12:28] <Cain_UnAbel> 512
[12:28] <ShackJack> Jowi: late on the reply he left & I already replied :)
[12:28] <yrth> nah, everybody, jrib
[12:29] <Cain_UnAbel> 1.8 ghz l2 cache
[12:29] <Jowi> ShackJack, yeah, i noticed :)
[12:29] <jamman> Well, i may get a job with the guy that i bought it from and he uses MS server, so i guess i could use the experiance.
[12:29] <jetscreamer> using the loop module seems to really want root
[12:29] <buddy> to run xgl, compiz, etc, what is better: ati radeon 1100 or intel 950?
[12:29] <buddy> I wanna buy a lappy.. hehe
[12:29] <asdf_> Does anyone know how to mount Gmail using GmailFS?
[12:30] <Pelo> buddy,  ati is tricky with linux , you better ask the advice ofthe ppl in #beryl and #ubuntu-effects
[12:30] <Cain_UnAbel> i downloaded mplayer-skins
[12:30] <Dromar> Hello, I have two screens and would like to have a DualDesktop... and it works, but not with XGL, I think there's something i need to add to the script xgl, can anyone help me? (and sorry for my bad english xD)
[12:30] <Music_Shuffle> buddy, iirc, the intel graphics chipsets do better with Beryl.  But...I bet someone knows more than me in the Beryl channel.
[12:30] <Cain_UnAbel> but i only have three choices
[12:30] <Fredneck> i am installing kubuntu, and think I should make a home partition, can someone help me do that?
[12:30] <Cain_UnAbel> and they're all the same
[12:30] <Cain_UnAbel> how do i get more skins for mplayer
[12:30] <Jowi> buddy, I use the intel chipset and it works great. but my GMA950 (945GM chip) has shared ram which isn't ideal.
[12:30] <Pelo> asdf_,  I'm sure gmail as some forum or channel or other resources to help you with this
[12:30] <safwan> hi everyone
[12:30] <nevrosis> hello somebody can help me?
[12:30] <schreck> what would cause a new install not to boot to the gui? Anyone
[12:30] <Music_Shuffle> !ask | nevrosis
[12:30] <ubotu> nevrosis: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:30] <IndyGunFreak> !ask
[12:30] <kitche> schreck: X might be configured wrong
[12:30] <Music_Shuffle> Hah!  /win.
[12:30] <nevrosis> it's my first day with ubuntu!!
[12:30] <Jowi> buddy, but beryl runs and runs well.
[12:31] <buddy> hmm I see
[12:31] <IndyGunFreak> nevrosis: so that makes you unable to ask a question?
[12:31] <buddy> rlz!! hehe
[12:31] <vbabiy> !irc
[12:31] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[12:31] <jrib> yrth: well you can do: sudo chmod -R a=rwX /media/the_path_to_your_mounted_partition
[12:31] <Pelo> nevrosis,  run , it's a trap meant to lure you away from windows
[12:31] <buddy> I guess I will get the intel.. it has 1mb cache l2..
[12:31] <vbabiy> !archive
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about archive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <yrth> thanks jrib
[12:31] <asdf_> Pelo:  I can't find anything else...
[12:31] <buddy> *think
[12:31] <buddy> sorry
[12:31] <Pelo> nevrosis,  what can we help you with ?
[12:31] <jrib> !permissions > yrth (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:31] <Pelo> asdf_,  try the forum
[12:31] <nevrosis> i can't install flash player what i do
[12:31] <schreck> kitche: where is the X conf? /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[12:31] <hacked_kernel> Fredneck: if you have much empty space then you can make /home as big as you want, if not then its fine to have / only "the root partition"
[12:31] <Jowi> nevrosis, welcome. if you have a problem be as specific as you can. if you just want to chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:31] <Cain_UnAbel> how do i get new skins for mplayer?
[12:32] <kitche> schreck: yes
[12:32] <safwan> what is an equivalent to the executable file in windows to ubuntu
[12:32] <schreck> or is that even the file I would need?
[12:32] <Pelo> nevrosis,  what architecture of  ubuntu did you install ?
[12:32] <buddy> well.. thanks a lot.. God bless all..
[12:32] <jrib> safwan: "the executable file"?  What do you mean that?
[12:32] <nevrosis> andre sei italiano?
[12:33] <Pelo> Cain_UnAbel, mplayer website
[12:33] <Fredneck> hacked kernel: yeah, i've got plenty of empty space, I just don't really understand how to use the installer
[12:33] <nevrosis> help me please!!
[12:33] <safwan> jrib I mean when you develop a program using C# or c++ you must have a file execuatble in order for the machine to run
[12:33] <Pelo> nevrosis,  what architecture of  ubuntu did you install ?
[12:33] <IndyGunFreak> nevrosis: you don't listen well do you?
[12:33] <nevrosis> 7.04(thank u!)
[12:33] <yrth> thanks jrib :) it worked :)
[12:33] <inazad> someone can help me with the HTML ?
[12:34] <Jowi> nevrosis, start the synaptic package manager and search for the Name "flash". you will find several packages. one of them is flashplayer-mozilla.
[12:34] <vbabiy> wher can i find a archive of this room
[12:34] <Pelo> nevrosis,   x86, amd ' ppc, ???
[02:32] (jaro/#ubuntu) thanks fuzzy_logic ill try that
[02:32] (jscinoz/#ubuntu) In a shell script how can i tell it to perform a certain act if one part returns and error?
[02:32] (DaveG|/#ubuntu) Talaman72, where's that?
[02:32] (zachwlewis/#ubuntu) Thank you very much. You were very helpful.
[02:32] (fuzzy_logic/#ubuntu) Talaman72: you can't set much up here..
[02:32] (DaveG|/#ubuntu) Talaman72, oh.. yeah i did ;P
[02:32] (Talaman72/#ubuntu) system, preferences
[02:33] <fuzzy_logic> jaro: np
[02:34] <Talaman72> brb
[02:34] <nexous> How can I resize sda1 partition to 15gb rather than 30?
[02:34] <fuzzy_logic> nexous: use gparted
[02:34] <nexous> fuzzy_logic: alright thanks.
[02:34] <Pelo> nexous,  boot up the live cd,    menu > system > admin > gnome partition editor
[02:34] <nexous> Wow, everyone is so pissy at fedora.
[02:34] <jrib> jscinoz: command1 || command2
[02:35] <nexous> fuzzy_logic: is that a gui or text-based?
[02:35] <jscinoz> thanks
[02:35] <fuzzy_logic> nexous: gui
[02:35] <Pelo> nexous, ubuntu is the nice distro
[02:35] <jaro> hmm how can i find out which keyboard i actually have in my laptop ??
[02:35] <jrib> jscinoz: google for "advanced bash scripting guide"
[02:35] <arooni> Pelo: when i checked the CD on the comp that i burned the CD on ... it said it had no probs
[02:35] <nexous> Pelo: I've noticed, I'm trying to dualboot fedora on an already installed ubuntu system, and their partitioner wouldn't allow me to edit the ubuntu partitions.
[02:35] <jscinoz> alright, also whats the significance of the double | instead of one?
[02:35] <arooni> Pelo: do you think it could be the drive?
[02:35] <nexous> brb.
[02:35] <linuxnub> nexous ubuntu is the place for nubs to linux heheh
[02:36] <cipy> how can I find out what packages are installed on the box ?
[02:36] <Pelo> arooni,  I don'T think you can edit a live drive
[02:36] <linuxnub> fedora is for advanced users really
[02:36] <cipy> possibly graphically
[02:36] <jrib> jscinoz: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ops.html#ANDOR
[02:36] <Pelo> arooni,  check the cd in another comp , it is possible,  but also check the forum,  this is a knowns error ,  I just don't remember what it is for
[02:36] <linuxnub> however fedora is much better once you learn linux
[02:36] <jscinoz> thanks
[02:37] <arooni> Pelo: where is forum
[02:37] <zkeeton> Hello:  I am having a heck of a time setting up printing.  I have followed various guides, as well as the Wiki. and for some reason I can not get my other Ubuntu computer to print.  I have just removed cups, and am re-installing it, and wondering if anyone can offer some advice?
[02:37] <Pelo> arooni,   www.ubuntuforums.com
[02:37] <fuzzy_logic> cipy: i'm not sure how it is graphically possible, but text-based you can do it with sudo apt-show-versions
[02:37] <Pelo> zkeeton, what kind of printer ?
[02:38] <zkeeton> It is an HP psc 2410
[02:38] <Pelo> zkeeton, usb ? or parallel ?
[02:38] <zkeeton> usb
[02:38] <jaro> hmm how can i find out which keyboard i actually have in my laptop ??
[02:38] <Steck> Any telling when update-manager will allow updating to Gutsy Gibbon alpha ?
[02:38] <jaro> @ fuzzy_logic
[02:38] <jmg> Steck: when it is released
[02:38] <jmg> and it wont allow update to gutsy alpha
[02:38] <Pelo> zkeeton, there are some hp printing packages in synaptic,  see if they can help
[02:38] <jmg> only to final
[02:38] <cipy> fuzzy-logic: I don't have apt-show-versions installed
[02:39] <fuzzy_logic> zkeeton: type in your browser: http://localhost:631, have you tried that??
[02:39] <kml> fuzzy_logic, :( not working, i think there is no solution to this tell now
[02:39] <Steck> jmg: I'm using the -d flag, should work no?
[02:39] <Pelo> Steck,  tray askiing in #ubuntu+1
[02:39] <Steck> ty :)
[02:39] <fuzzy_logic> jaro: mostly it just has the same name as your laptop
[02:39] <jaro> hm
[02:39] <jaro> no asus
[02:39] <jaro> in the list
[02:39] <arooni> whats the best program to burn a cd
[02:40] <arooni> i want to burn a cd slower.. i have an iso file
[02:40] <arooni> which is the feisty fawn version
[02:40] <fuzzy_logic> kml: what do you want to do with your webcam?
[02:40] <zkeeton> haven't tried that yet either, let me re-install cups, and add the printer to the local computer.  It is strange, because according to the documentation, I should be able to enable sharing and my other Ubuntu computer should find it automatically, but it's not.  Then tried it manually, and still no printy
[02:40] <Pelo> arooni,  gnomebaker or k3b
[02:40] <iMayKnow> arooni, i like gnome-baker, but that's just personal preference
[02:40] <Pelo> arooni, gnomebaker for gnome,  k3b for kde
[02:40] <Paddy_EIRE> I have been looking for ubuntu professional certification but cannot find anyone providing this locally, is it possible to get this course for home study?
[02:41] <fuzzy_logic> cipy: just a sec plz
[02:41] <arooni> should i just reburn the cd?
[02:41] <Pelo> Paddy_EIRE,  try the site there is some info on there
[02:41] <kml> fuzzy_logic, :S i want to make it working on ubuntu,
[02:41] <zkeeton>   Alright, it's downloading and installing cups now *hates waiting, LOL*
[02:41] <Paddy_EIRE> Pelo, I have although as I said there is no one doing this locally
[02:42] <devinci> Bonsoir, le program files de Windows quivaut  quoi sous Linux. Exemple, j'ai tlcharger un torrent et il me demande avec quoi l'ouvrir alors je cherche le logiciel d'azureus.
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: what kind of problem are you having?
[02:42] <devinci> oups pardon
[02:42] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: so i tried to install linux and the cd is giving me : [912.540000]  SQUASHFS error:  Unable to read page, block 2648bc5c, size 84ad.... then it says 'Segmentation Fault', 'Segmentation Fault'
[02:42] <Pelo> Paddy_EIRE, I mean check on the site for alternate methods of getting certified
[02:42] <devinci> je me suis tromper de canal
[02:42] <Pelo> devinci,   #ubuntu-fr
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> yes, burn it again
[02:42] <darwin81> arooni, Brasero is also good. If you're on Gnome try Gnomebaker and Brasero.
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> and burn it slower.
[02:42] <fuzzy_logic> kml: yes but how do you want to approach it? with a messenger or what?
[02:42] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: how mslow
[02:42] <arooni> slow
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: what kind of media?
[02:42] <arooni> CDR
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: i usually burn at 2-4x
[02:42] <Pelo> arooni,  1x
[02:43] <AusME> I am creating a system where the only thing available will be a joystick. Can anyone point me to a filemanager that will use a joystick driver? or some interface driver that will allow a user to move the joystick as a mouse?
[02:43] <arooni> omg wow
[02:43] <arooni> i burned at 48X
[02:43] <Kevin__> hi
[02:43] <Kevin__> hi
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: well, that might be part of the problem
[02:43] <fuzzy_logic> cipy: i don't know how you can do that.. maybe someone else does?
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> its not a race, slower is better.
[02:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Pelo, no, there is a lack of information on the site
[02:43] <Pelo> arooni, 48 x in not necessaraly bad,  it just doesN't seem to work for you that's all
[02:43] <Pelo> Paddy_EIRE,  google then
[02:43] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: but when i checked the CD integrity in another comp, it said no probls
[02:44] <Kevin__>  
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: trust me, burn slower
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> !ch
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <Pelo> !ci
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ci - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <Alan> has anybody here managed to get azureus working with SOCKS proxy?  For some reason it works fine in Gentoo, but with the exact same version and configuration it doesn't work in Ubuntu ....
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> !chineese
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chineese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <arooni> oh noes (tyring to launch gnomebaker): process:14818): GStreamer-WARNING **: Twhhe GStreamer function gst_init_get_option_group() was called, but the GLib threading system has not been initialised
[02:45] <arooni> yet, something that must happen before any other GLib  is called. The application needs to be fixed so that it if (!g_thread_supported ())  as very first thing in its main() function. Please file a against this application.
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: lol
[02:45] <fuzzy_logic> !chinese
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chinese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: you dont think its a drive problem?
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: no.
[02:45] <fuzzy_logic> !ubuntu-ch | IndyGunFreak
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:45] <fuzzy_logic> damn :P lol
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> fuzzy_logic: lol
[02:45] <jrib> !cn
[02:45] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:45] <zkeeton> Hrmm...this is strange:  I installed cups with sudo apt-get install cupsys* and now when I try to add the printer it's telling me that it can not connect to the cups server.  Tried a restart of cups and still no workie
[02:45] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: any idea on how to get gnomebaker working on feisty?
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: it should work fine.
[02:46] <Borat_Sagdiyev> !kz
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> what kind of problem are you having with it?
[02:46] <arooni> i ah
[02:46] <darkrift> anyone here able to help me resize a windows partition to make more room for unbuntu?
[02:46] <marltu> !lt
[02:46] <arooni> it was giving me an error when it launched
[02:46] <raymondjtoth> were cna i finde what run on wine the game at least
[02:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <raymondjtoth> cant finde on site
[02:46] <arooni> in stderr i guess
[02:46] <jrib> stop spamming the bot
[02:46] <arooni> looks like it still launched
[02:46] <blind> Why is gedit telling me that /home/blind/.q3a/q3config.cfg is on a read only disk? O_o
[02:46] <Borat_Sagdiyev> !ru
[02:46] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[02:46] <raymondjtoth> !spam
[02:46] <yipe> is there an ubotu hint for getting gamepads and joysticks to work? Or can anyone at least point me in the right direction?
[02:46] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[02:46] <Pelo> raymondjtoth,  www.winehq.org has an application db
[02:46] <fuzzy_logic> zkeeton: are you working with localhost:631??
[02:46] <arooni> ok so what speed to burn at this time round?
[02:46] <arooni> 4x?
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: 2-4.., whatever is slowest
[02:47] <ablabla> !Attitude
[02:47] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:47] <raymondjtoth> pelo ok on site were do you finde it on site
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> someof them don't go slower than 4
[02:47] <raymondjtoth> that i dont see
[02:47] <ablabla> !Offtopic
[02:47] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:47] <Pelo> raymondjtoth,  look for application database or ask in #winehq
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> !botabuse | ablabla
[02:47] <ubotu> ablabla: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:47] <zkeeton> I am just trying to add the printer to the local computer, so that  I can I can try and get the network printing set up
[02:47] <ablabla> sorry
[02:48] <mobutu> AUTOMATIX
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> mobutu: don't use automatix.
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> !automatix | mobutu
[02:48] <ubotu> mobutu: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:48] <Pelo> mobutu, you don'T need automatix,  most of the stuff on there can be easily installed with synaptic
[02:48] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: did i get the right install: ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386 (i have an amd sempron 2400+ .. it just a reg 32 bit platform i think)
[02:49] <Borat_Sagdiyev> !fr
[02:49] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: looks fine
[02:49] <mobutu> you are all bots
[02:49] <Pelo> Borat_Sagdiyev, can we help you with something ?
[02:49] <kml> fuzzy_logic, with amsn, and i want to access it, in cpp to test some image processing algorithms
[02:49] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: ok so i'm trying 4x, even though i have 1x and 2x... i'm really impatient, i want ubuntu! ;p
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: what OS are you using Gnomebaker?
[02:49] <arooni> 1X = an hour i think?
[02:49] <arooni> ;p
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: well, patience is a virtue, use somethign slower.
[02:49] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: ubuntu 7.04
[02:50] <Pelo> arooni,  patience young padawan
[02:50] <arooni> how long does 1X take
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: if you're using ubuntu 7.04, why are you burning anotyher one?
[02:50] <arooni> for 700 mb
[02:50] <Pelo> arooni,  as long as it needs
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: probably 4-6min.
[02:50] <sacamano> hey, how do i add a program to the startup list?
[02:50] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: cuz i need to install on desktop
[02:50] <sbalneav> arooni: 74 minutes
[02:50] <jrib> !startup > sacamano (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:50] <arooni> i have it on my laptop
[02:50] <arooni> sbalneav: no way?
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: i guess i'mconfused.
[02:50] <sbalneav> At 1x. yes
[02:50] <arooni> damn
[02:51] <sbalneav> a full cd is 74 minutes long
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> so youhave 2 speeds, 1 has ubuntu installed, and gnomebaker?
[02:51] <sacamano> thank you!
[02:51] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: i have a laptop
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> i mean 2 pcs
[02:51] <arooni> thats what i'm talking to you on
[02:51] <arooni> then i have a desktop
[02:51] <zkeeton> Fuzz Logic...any ideas why it won't connect to the cups server to add the printer locally
[02:51] <madman91>  I have a computer running azureus, it is seeding approximately 92 torrents. The folder that holds all the torrent file has much more than that however. Is there some way I can move only the currently opened torrents into another folder? Or maybe purge the old ones?
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> ok., now i understand
[02:51] <arooni> that i'm trying to de=windowize
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[02:51] <Pelo> madman91,  open the folder and delete then ones you don'T want
[02:52] <intangir> im trying to build celestia on ubuntu, but i get this error when configuring:
[02:52] <intangir> configure: error: Package requirements (libgnomeui-2.0 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6 gtkglext-1.0) were not met
[02:52] <intangir> i installed libgnomeui-2.0-dev already
[02:52] <nexous> gparted shows all of my partitions with a lock symbol and I can't change size of hda1
[02:52] <Pelo> intangir,  try installeing the devs for the gtk pakcages as well
[02:52] <intangir> Pelo: what are they?
[02:52] <darkrift> thats my prob too nexous
[02:52] <darkrift> but only my ntfs partitions
[02:53] <Pelo> intangir,  try in synaptic
[02:53] <selim> is someone in here who can help me with a network-manager-pptp problem?
[02:53] <Pelo> nexous,  unmount them first
[02:53] <Fatb0y> i would like my ubuntu box to boot to console and not directly into GDM for x window.  Since they have changed the way ubuntu loads, does anyone have a link to a howto that shows how to easily make this happen.  With inittab it was an easy number change.
[02:53] <madman91> Pelo: how do i see which ones are in use.. without manually checking.. lsof doesnt work
[02:53] <selim> I try to establish a connection via wlan but it seems only to work with wired lan adapter not with the wireless
[02:53] <nexous> Pelo: Most likely other partitions are also mounted on these mountpoints. y
[02:54] <nexous> Do i have to swapoff swap?
[02:54] <Pelo> madman91, I think you need to do it the hard way,  check in az, make a list,   delete what isn't one the list
[02:54] <jojo_> hello
[02:54] <sbalneav> Fatb0y: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Trying to install Dapper on Dell C640.  Wiki says it works.  Tested MD5 and it id fine.  Get error starting Enterprise Volume Management Buffer i/o error  ANy suggestions.?
[02:55] <nexous> I can now edit dev/hda2 with swap set to swapoff right now, but I still cant unmount dev/hda1
[02:55] <Fatb0y> sbalneav: to change it back do sudo update-rc.d -f gdm install?
[02:55] <Pelo> Jack_Sparrow, look up the error msg in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.com
[02:55] <sbalneav> Fatb0y: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm defaults
[02:55] <Pelo> nexous,  are you using the live cd ?
[02:56] <nexous> Pelo: No, ubuntu is already installed on my system.
[02:56] <madman91> Pelo: eww
[02:56] <Fatb0y> sbalneav: thanks
[02:56] <sbalneav> whoops, no -f on the defaults one.
[02:56] <Pelo> nexous,  you need to boot from the live cd,  you cannot edit partitons of a running hdd
[02:56] <nexous> uh.
[02:56] <oscurochu> How do I enable file sharing?
[02:56] <nexous> I only have a live cd of 6.06 and im running 7.04.
[02:56] <Pelo> nexous, just trust me
[02:56] <AusME> Does anyone know how I can make my joystick move the mouse cursor?
[02:56] <Pelo> nexous,  doesn't matter any ubuntu live cd will do
[02:57] <thesource> can some help with instrall tcl
[02:57] <nexous> Pelo: okay
[02:57] <Pelo> AusME, check in the forum
[02:57] <nexous> Pelo: So boot the livecd?
[02:57] <RoC_MasterMind> oscurochu, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_share_folders_the_easy_way
[02:57] <Pelo> nexous, do you realy expect me to say it for a fourth time ?
[02:57] <nexous> Pelo:  hehe.
[02:57] <thesource> configure: error:
[02:57] <thesource> 
[02:57] <nexous> Pelo: nvm, i'll get it. :D
[02:57] <thesource>   Tcl cannot be found on this system.
[02:57] <thesource> 
[02:57] <thesource>   Eggdrop requires Tcl to compile. If you already have Tcl installed on
[02:57] <thesource>   this system, and I just wasn't looking in the right place for it, re-run
[02:57] <thesource>   ./configure using the --with-tcllib='/path/to/libtcl.so' and
[02:57] <RoC_MasterMind> ugh
[02:57] <thesource>   --with-tclinc='/path/to/tcl.h' options.
[02:57] <thesource> 
[02:57] <thesource>   See doc/COMPILE-GUIDE's 'Tcl Detection and Installation' section for more
[02:57] <thesource>   information.
[02:58] <thesource> 
[02:58] <jrib> !paste | thesource
[02:58] <ubotu> thesource: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:58] <RoC_MasterMind> haha
[02:58] <thesource> sorry i did not mean for thsat
[02:59] <Pelo> jrib, you didn'T actualy kick him
[02:59] <jrib> thesource: eggdrop is in the repositories
[02:59] <callen81> is there a known bug with realtek gigabit nics
[02:59] <jrib> Pelo: that's ok, I just muted
[02:59] <thesource> no but the tcl is
[02:59] <whileimhere> Hi what package would I need to install to get downloaded flvs to play?
[02:59] <jrib> thesource: no, I am telling you that eggdrop is as well
[02:59] <mobutu> whileimhere: vlc or mplayer
[02:59] <randoman_> god damn , that there was a lot of GARNOME Dependencies for ubuntu. :P
[02:59] <xenex> thesource, i just reinstalled tcl in synaptic to fix that
[02:59] <AusME> Well, Pelo, I appreciate the response but I'm not able to find much in the forum (about the joystick operating like the mouse)
[02:59] <Freebieee> Hello, does anyone know how to get a VIA southbridge AC97 audio sound card working?
[03:00] <thesource> ok and ehrn i do ./configer for ehhdrop
[03:00] <whileimhere> I have both and they do play them but the time slider on the bottom doesnt work for them
[03:00] <thesource> eggdrop
[03:00] <jrib> !info eggdrop | thesource
[03:00] <intangir> configure: error: Package requirements (libgnomeui-2.0 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6 gtkglext-1.0) were not met
[03:00] <ubotu> thesource: eggdrop: Advanced IRC Robot. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.6.18-1 (feisty), package size 461 kB, installed size 1132 kB
[03:00] <RoC_MasterMind> whileimhere, sounds like those players don't support seeking...that's pretty normal
[03:00] <xenex> oh, the latest version. nice.
[03:00] <thesource> thabks
[03:00] <Pelo> AusME,  you haven't search for very long,  search with keywords , just try joystick
[03:00] <intangir> i dont know what packages it wants
[03:00] <jrib> thesource: do you know about the universe repository?
[03:00] <whileimhere> Thanks Roc_mastermind that is exactly what I ment
[03:00] <intangir> i couldve sworn before when i would get configure errors i had an easy way of finding its package
[03:01] <ryan__> I'm having a problem with adding a new startup Sesssion if anyone can help
[03:01] <whileimhere> What player will play movs?
[03:01] <daskidud1> vlc
[03:01] <intangir> off of some auto package file
[03:01] <callen81> vlc
[03:01] <Pelo> AusME,  you can probably edit xorg.conf to specify a different device for the mouse
[03:01] <jrib> intangir: what are you compiling?
[03:01] <callen81> just install vlc and never worry about codecs again
[03:01] <whileimhere> LOL
[03:01] <whileimhere> okay
[03:01] <callen81> it'll play any media file you'll throw at it
[03:01] <RoC_MasterMind> vlc plays almost anything, proprietary, patented or not.
[03:02] <callen81> could someone help me with my intergraded nic
[03:02] <RoC_MasterMind> callen81, hopefully.
[03:02] <callen81> it was working but stopped, works in windows fine and my wifi nic works fine too
[03:02] <mtv> my printer backend is not responding, where do i go from here?
[03:02] <RoC_MasterMind> What does Windows have to do with this callen81 ?
[03:03] <callen81> that nic isn't fried
[03:03] <RoC_MasterMind> does it show up under lspci?
[03:04] <callen81> yeah, but it wont link or grab an ip, ive checked my /ect/network/interface
[03:04] <devnull> any way to downgrade to xorg 7.1 in feisty?
[03:04] <RoC_MasterMind> devnull, there is always a way.
[03:05] <devnull> well some insight would be great.
[03:05] <illusions> I am having a problem when installing Ubuntu 7.04, the X server won't start... I have a Dell Inspiron 6400/E1505 with a Radeon X1400 video card, it keeps coming up with the error that it can't find the drivers for my Broadcom wireless NIC, any ideas as to why the X server keeps giving me errors? It says that it found 'screens' but none are compatible or something along those lines..
[03:06] <Pelo> illusions,  you need to use the alternate install cd,  it is text based,   after the installation is complete you can then install the drivers for your ati video card
[03:06] <whileimhere> !java
[03:06] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:06] <callen81> @illusions edit your driver to just nv for the time being and see if that works
[03:08] <illusions> Is there a way I can edit the current CD I am using to do a text based install?
[03:08] <callen81> you can do it from the cd
[03:08] <callen81> i have to do the same thing with my ferrari
[03:08] <Pelo> illusions,  if you were using the dvd , you could select the text install but not with the cd,  you need to dl the alternate cd
[03:08] <selim> no one who can help me with this?
[03:09] <illusions> I looked for a DVD on the website, I was unable to find it.
[03:09] <Pelo> selim,  with what ?
[03:09] <Wonderboy_> I'm looking for some sort of dock that acts as the OS X dock whereas if I get an IM there will be some indication via the application's icon on the dock, does anyone know if here is one?
[03:09] <Pelo> illusions,  they are further down the page,  but for now you just need the alternate isntall cd
[03:09] <callen81> just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver to vesa as well you need to set the screen to screen 0
[03:09] <Pelo> !download
[03:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[03:10] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: omg it boots
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: i told you
[03:10] <Pelo> callen81,  he can't boot the cd ,  x doesn't start , he need the alternate install cd,  and he's got an ati card not a nvdia one
[03:10] <devnull> hmm
[03:10] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: but now it boots right... and i get the brown background.... and the arrow, bjut nothing else?
[03:10] <selim> Pelo: with my network-manager-pptp problem, I try to establish a pptp vpn connection with network-manager but it only gets connected with a wired connection if I try it with a working wireless interface I get errors
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> patience is a virtue.
[03:10] <devnull> i need a repos for xorg from edgy...
[03:10] <Bllz> hey guys
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: give it a second, and make sure its done loading.
[03:11] <driven_> Wonderboy_: try http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/
[03:11] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: ok cuz i have another 1X cd on the way ;p
[03:11] <nexous> How long do you think it will take to resize the partition?
[03:11] <Pelo> !wifi | selim  that's the most I can do for you
[03:11] <ubotu> selim  that's the most I can do for you: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:11] <Tre1> hi, anyone successfully used pptp-client on dapper ? always getting 'ubuntu pptp faild = Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP' and when i manually add routes via add route etc pptp-client starts giving me 1-3 errors per sec to stdout telling me unknown protocoll. encryption has to be active since im using it for relakks.com
[03:11] <Tre1> 
[03:11] <Pelo> nexous,  depends how much stuff needs to be moved,  no way to tell
[03:11] <Bllz> question:  what's the best media player for use with an iPod?
[03:11] <devnull> amarok
[03:11] <nexous> Pelo:  estimate? hours?
[03:11] <andresjrm> nexous, it usually is no more than 10 minutes from what i remember
[03:11] <selim> pelo: but the wireless connection is working
[03:11] <Bllz> devnull, I can't seem to install that
[03:11] <harisamin> hey guys...
[03:12] <harisamin> i have a question
[03:12] <Bllz> there's always an apt-get error
[03:12] <nexous> andresjrm: okay.
[03:12] <nexous> wonderful.
[03:12] <arooni> do i have enough power to run fesity?  2.4ghz sempron, 512 mb ram, separate graphics card?
[03:12] <Wonderboy_> driven_, I'll check it out, thanks.
[03:12] <Pelo> selim,  like I said it is not something I can help you with , try in the forum if no one here can help
[03:12] <selim> pelo: do you think there is some hint for the pptp connection in connection with the wireless?
[03:12] <nexous> Error while resizing/moving /dev/hda1
[03:12] <pixelation> Say, I had my doubts, but Xubuntu ain't bad.
[03:12] <whileimhere> Hey guys I know that you suggested VLC for the FLV files but I have some that work fine under a windows OS but do not work with VLC on linux.
[03:12] <selim> pelo: I tried no answer at all
[03:12] <selim> pelo: but thank you for answering
[03:12] <Bllz> Will apt-get install AmaroK work in Gnome?
[03:13] <Pelo> selim,  no idea,  not realy my field,  don'T post to the forum,  search the forum
[03:13] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: what do you think
[03:13] <harisamin> i have a g3 powerbook with dapper on it....for some reason i cannot get any ubuntu distro on my G4 powermac...trust me i've tried everything and i just wanna try somethine else....can i install dapper from the G3 powerbook toa second hard drive on the G4 powermac with a network connection or something?
[03:13] <illusions> Is there a faster server to download the Alternate cd ?
[03:13] <QwertyM> Bllz: Yes it will :)
[03:13] <Pelo> nexous,  do one operation at a time
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: stillnot working?
[03:13] <Bllz> QwertyM, I ask because I keep getting apt-get install errors when I do that
[03:13] <nexous> Pelo:  I thought i was, only resizing it now.
[03:13] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: no its working..... but SLOW ;p
[03:13] <arooni> i think its cuz it has to do it all in RAM
[03:13] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: did you get the desktop?
[03:13] <Bllz> and it can't verrify the package source or something like that
[03:13] <Pelo> !torrents | illusions
[03:13] <ubotu> illusions: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Feisty: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/release/ (DVDs)
[03:13] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: yes running setup wizard now
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: yes, the live cd isn't very fast
[03:14] <arooni> does that mean im home free?
[03:14] <madman91> HOW do i see my host name
[03:14] <Pelo> nexous,  ic
[03:14] <QwertyM> Bllz: Must be some GPG keys that you haven't installed, for some added repos perhaps
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: well, maybe.. just be forewarned, if you have trouble with that one, and it won't install completely
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> download the alternate install cd, burn slow, and use it.. it'll get you installed.
[03:14] <Bllz> QwertyM, how might I fix that?
[03:14] <Pelo> nexous,  make sure all the partitons are unmounted
[03:14] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: where is the 'alternate install cd'
[03:14] <Bllz> sudo apt-get update?
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: its on the ubuntu site.
[03:14] <arooni> ok
[03:15] <arooni> maybe i should start dloading it now
[03:15] <nexous> Pelo: what about /dev/hda2 and /dev/hda5? if I'm only resizing /dev/hda1
[03:15] <andresjrm> madman97: cat /etc/hostname
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> its called alternate install-i386.iso or something
[03:15] <arooni> just in case
[03:15] <QwertyM> Bllz: Have you added any repos other than Ubuntu's default? And does APT stop after it says unverified ?
[03:15] <Bllz> QwertyM, not that I know of, and NO
[03:15] <QwertyM> Bllz: If APT doesnt stop, dont bother adding the keys ..
[03:15] <Pelo> nexous, upload a screenshot of your gparted windows so I can see what you need to do
[03:15] <illusions> Ahh, thanks! I should have looked harder
[03:15] <daskidud1> why does coping files take so long?
[03:15] <QwertyM> You can go on ..
[03:16] <nexous> Pelo:  alright give me a sec.
[03:16] <Bllz> QwertyM, actually it stops but not right after saying it can't verrify
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: the alternate install cd is a lot faster, ify ou're concerned aboutspeed
[03:16] <bruenig> daskidud1, doesn't
[03:16] <illusions> Are there any issues with the install on a Dell Latitude C640?
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> but it is 100% text based.
[03:16] <QwertyM> Bllz: Then?
[03:16] <CrashNBurn> list
[03:16] <harisamin> i have a g3 powerbook with dapper on it....for some reason i cannot get any ubuntu distro on my G4 powermac...trust me i've tried everything and i just wanna try somethine else....can i install dapper from the G3 powerbook toa second hard drive on the G4 powermac with a network connection or something?
[03:16] <Pelo> !hardware | illusions
[03:16] <ubotu> illusions: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:16] <Bllz> QwertyM, then it seems to be downloading but it craps out when it tries to install
[03:17] <Bllz> it says it couldnt download some packages bc of an apt error
[03:17] <daskidud1> it says preparing the files  but i dguess that culd be because of the amount that i am coping?
[03:17] <s225> hi all stupid question :p. I just installed nxserver on ubuntu connected nicely to a remote computer in full screen mode, How do I leave it?? :S thanks
[03:17] <Pelo> daskidud1, that sounds likely
[03:18] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: how big should my swap parittion be?
[03:18] <arooni> i have a 300gb drive
[03:18] <Freebieee> how can i safely reinstall the linux kernel and modules?
[03:18] <arooni> i want to deveote to linux
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: are you using thewhole 300gb drive for Ubuntu?
[03:18] <daskidud1> i'm copying friles from my windows partitions to my external in windows stopped booting
[03:18] <wols_> Freebieee: apt-get it
[03:18] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: um i was thinking about it?
[03:18] <Pelo> arooni,  twice your RAM
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: ok.. just asking
[03:18] <andresjrm> s225: do a menu appear when you put the mouse on the top? or maybe Ctrl+Alt does somethin... (just guessing :))
[03:18] <arooni> IndyGunFreak: what woudl u suggest?
[03:18] <wols_> arooni: how much memory do you have?
[03:19] <IndyGunFreak> arooni: what pelo said, twice your ram/.
[03:19] <Freebieee> wols_ how?
[03:19] <Pelo> arooni,  you might want to consider making your /home on a seperate partition
[03:19] <Freebieee> wols_ what command would you suggest?
[03:19] <IndyGunFreak> if you have more than 1gig of ram though, 2gigs of swap is kinda pointless
[03:19] <ryanakca> since /bin/sh points to /bin/dash, is it at all possible to get a copy of the original bourne shell? (sh)
[03:19] <arooni> Pelo: what benefits does this ahve
[03:19] <jrib> ryanakca: /bin/bash ?
[03:19] <wols_> Freebieee: in synpatic or aptitude on the command line (kernel package starts with "linux-image" as its name
[03:19] <jrib> ryanakca: that's what it was before
[03:19] <wols_> !apt | Freebieee
[03:19] <ubotu> Freebieee: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[03:19] <Pelo> arooni, you can reinstall the os without whipping off your data
[03:20] <Freebieee> wols_ synaptic gave me a big warning...
[03:20] <s225> andresjrm: No no luck there :( It is like a am sitting at the remote computer (which is good!) but not in this case :P
[03:20] <ryanakca> jrib: isn't /bin/bash bourne again shell, and different than bourne shell?
[03:20] <wols_> Freebieee: what warning?
[03:20] <arooni> Pelo: wont i not be able to use the nice:  /home/arooni .. structure?
[03:20] <Cain_UnAbel> how do i apply mplayer skins?
[03:20] <jrib> ryanakca: yesh, I meant /bin/sh just pointed to bash before it pointed to dash
[03:20] <wols_> ryanakca: it is
[03:20] <Freebieee> wols_ About it being a dangerous action. But, is there a way to purge remove, then install it again?
[03:20] <bigfuzzyjesus> im having troubles installing themes, they arent in a .tar.gz format i have installed themes before, but when i try to put the un archived stuff into an archive and install it it says invalid file type
[03:20] <Pelo> arooni,  you will but your /home will just be on a different partition then /
[03:20] <wols_> arooni: you will. just that /home is on another partition
[03:21] <andresjrm> s225: haha if you are in linux just do <ctrl><alt>Backspace to kill the X Server, and then login again and search google or the documentation :)
[03:21] <Pelo> arooni,  I have    10 gig for / , 2 gig for swap and the rest for /home , makes a nice clean installation
[03:21] <arooni> so should i do the 'manaul partition option" ?
[03:21] <wols_> Freebieee: yes. read what uboto told you. best use the commandline for that. you might still get a warning but it'll do it
[03:21] <Pelo> arooni, that would work well
[03:21] <Freebieee> wols_ alright then
[03:21] <ryanakca> jrib: yeah. I'm looking for the 1978 version of sh :) (just for historical/amusement purposes, nothing important)
[03:21] <arooni> Pelo: where are programs installed to?  / ?
[03:21] <arooni> and is it easy to give more later?
[03:22] <Cain_UnAbel> where do i extract the .tar.bz2 for mplayer skins?
[03:22] <wols_> ryanakca: #!/bin/sh for for script is usually a good idea since that is always there and gets rid of some bashisms
[03:22] <jrib> Cain_UnAbel: did you install it to ~/.mplayer/skins ?
[03:22] <Freebieee> wols_ I'll run "sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-generic && sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic" ?
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> Cain_UnAbel: where id you download mplayer skins?
[03:22] <Pelo> arooni,   more or less,  technicaly they get installed to /user
[03:22] <jrib> ryanakca: oh, that sounds interesting...
[03:22] <Pelo>  /usr
[03:22] <wols_> Freebieee: it has a version number appended I think
[03:22] <ryanakca> wols_: that's dash. not bourne shell.
[03:22] <wols_> ryanakca: did you change it?
[03:22] <Cain_UnAbel> i just used apt get IndyGunFreak
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> really?
[03:23] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[03:23] <Freebieee> Yes wols_ but i found that the generic package "links" to the latest linux image
[03:23] <ryanakca> wols_: no, it's always been either bash or dash, not bourne shell.
[03:23] <jrib> ryanakca: wikipedia article has a link
[03:23] <Cain_UnAbel> and theres no .mplayer/skins dir
[03:23] <harisamin> guys can anyone help me please
[03:23] <harisamin> i have a g3 powerbook with dapper on it....for some reason i cannot get any ubuntu distro on my G4 powermac...trust me i've tried everything and i just wanna try somethine else....can i install dapper from the G3 powerbook toa second hard drive on the G4 powermac with a network connection or something?
[03:23] <wols_> Freebieee: then it'S a meta package and removing it won't remove your kernel at all.
[03:23] <iTG`Neatchee> I'm looking for some rather technical help with trying to backport a build of pidgin-otr from the gutsy repos to feisty.  Is there anyone here who can help, or is there a better room for this type of question?
[03:23] <Pelo> !install | harisamin
[03:23] <Freebieee> Cain_UnAbel I believe its in /usr/share somewhere
[03:23] <ubotu> harisamin: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[03:23] <arooni> Pelo: should i 'make a new paritiotn table'?  i basically have 300gb which is listed as:  /dev/hdc1
[03:23] <jrib> ryanakca: http://minnie.tuhs.org/UnixTree/V7/usr/src/cmd/sh/ have fun if you try to compile
[03:23] <Freebieee> wols_ okay
[03:24] <Freebieee> Wols_ wish me luck
[03:24] <Cain_UnAbel> i extract the .tar.bz2 there Freebieee ?
[03:24] <Pelo> arooni,  assuming the whole hdd is free,  remove the hdc1 partition,  and make new ones
[03:24] <illusions> Does Ubuntu not worry about wireless NIC compatibility?
[03:24] <Freebieee> Cain_UnAbel there should be a mplayer directory in /usr/share, and in that there should be a theme folder
[03:24] <jrib> Cain_UnAbel: you create it
[03:25] <wols_> Freebieee: messing with kernel is dangerous business. don't reboot until "dpkg -l |grep linux-image" shows an installed kernel "ii"
[03:25] <amrcidiot> guys, how do i writeto restricted files?
[03:25] <arooni> Pelo: ok ... so should my paritions be "primary" or "logical" ... and should they be ext3 or ext2?
[03:25] <jrib> Cain_UnAbel: stick to putting things in your HOME until you are more comfortable
[03:25] <Freebieee> wols_ okay
[03:25] <Cain_UnAbel> i cant extract the .tar.bz2 to that dir Freebieee
[03:25] <Pelo> amrcidiot,   sudo gedit /path/file
[03:25] <wols_> amrcidiot: gksudo gedit <file>
[03:25] <iTG`Neatchee> I'm looking for some rather technical help with trying to backport a build of pidgin-otr from the gutsy repos to feisty.  Is there anyone here who can help, or is there a better room for this type of question?
[03:25] <amrcidiot> thanks
[03:25] <Freebieee> Cain_UnAbel its at /usr/share/mplayer/Skin
[03:25] <Cain_UnAbel> yes
[03:25] <Cain_UnAbel> but i cant extract there
[03:26] <andresjrm> amrcidiot: use sudo su for command line or gksu for gnome frontend
[03:26] <wols_> iTG`Neatchee: just ask
[03:26] <_Michael> I forget the difference between gnome and KDE what is better for a new linux user coming from WinXP
[03:26] <devnull> kde
[03:26] <ryanakca> jrib: yep. hmmm... might be fun packaging a 28 year old shell :)
[03:26] <wols_> mikeg8: mater of taste mostly
[03:26] <arooni> Pelo: any suggestions on primary versus logical and ext3 versus ext2?
[03:26] <Flannel> _Michael: theyll both be about the same.
[03:26] <Pelo> arooni, make / primary  ext3,  swap will be linux swap,  /home primary ext3
[03:26] <devnull> arooni: primary ext3
[03:26] <wols_> arooni: ext3. rest irrelevant
[03:26] <Pelo> arooni,  patience
[03:26] <iTG`Neatchee> wols_: Ok.  I need to backport pidgin-otr for amd64 from gutsy to feisty.  Can someone help me with that?
[03:26] <iTG`Neatchee> :P
[03:26] <Cain_UnAbel> i didnt put it there jrib
[03:26] <Cain_UnAbel> i just used apt-get
[03:26] <andresjrm> _Michael: if you want something simple and easy to use: gnome, if you want somethin very integrated and a little more windows-like, kde
[03:27] <wols_> iTG`Neatchee: ask a real question. not a "do my work for me"
[03:27] <jrib> Cain_UnAbel: what did you install using apt-get?
[03:27] <nexous> Pelo: having a bit of trouble :-p
[03:27] <Cain_UnAbel> mplayer-skins
[03:27] <_Michael> K, i think i will try KDE for now thanks
[03:27] <nexous> pelo: no screen for oyu, i map it out for you.
[03:27] <Flannel> _Michael: although gnome might be better if theyve used FF/TB/GIMP/etc on XP, since they're GTK (gnome) based.
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> Cain_UnAbel: there's only like 2 skins in that package i do believe
[03:27] <Cain_UnAbel> yea
[03:27] <arooni> sorry Pelo ... im just so excitede!
[03:27] <Cain_UnAbel> i have a couple of .tar.bz2 that im trying to put there
[03:27] <iTG`Neatchee> wols_: I don't know where to begin, man.  All of the functionality is there, and should work in Feisty, but there's a few dependency issues (which could be resolved if I knew how to change the requirements)
[03:27] <Cain_UnAbel> but i dont have permission
[03:27] <jrib> Cain_UnAbel: that installs the skins, it doesn't have any tar.gz
[03:27] <wols_> iTG`Neatchee: then if you get an error why don't you tell us?
[03:28] <Pelo> arooni,   I'm sending you a pick of my gparted, us it as a template
[03:28] <wols_> iTG`Neatchee: paste the error(s)
[03:28] <arooni> thanks Pelo !
[03:28] <Pelo> arooni,  you need to accept the file
[03:28] <arooni> Pelo: im not getting prompted hang on
[03:28] <Cain_UnAbel> i downloaded some skins in a .tar.bz2 jrib
[03:28] <iTG`Neatchee> wols_: the errors are obvious, because I'm using a deb that's designed for gutsy, when I'm running feisty.  I don't know how to do a backport though.  That's what I'm asking.
[03:29] <illusions> Feisty is 7.04 correct?
[03:29] <Flannel> illusions: yes
[03:29] <jrib> Cain_UnAbel: go to your home directory, view -> show hidden files, go to .mplayer (create it if it does not exist), then inside go to "skins" (create it if it does not exist).  Then extract in here
[03:29] <wols_> iTG`Neatchee: have fun not telling us what errors and not getting help. bye
[03:29] <iTG`Neatchee> typing error right now, geeze
[03:29] <wols_> !paste | iTG`Neatchee
[03:29] <ubotu> iTG`Neatchee: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:29] <arooni> Pelo: would you mind posting here: http://imageshack.us/
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: that won't work..
[03:29] <devnull> wols_: jeez dude. Drop the attitude.
[03:29] <jrib> IndyGunFreak: why
[03:30] <arooni> free image hosting ? ... ic ant get prompted
[03:30] <arooni> about ur email
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> Cain_UnAbel: i just installed a theme if you want me to tell you how to do it.
[03:30] <arooni> i mean your picture of gparted
[03:30] <Pelo> arooni,  I was looking for the url
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: the skins theme is under /usr/share/mplayer
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> he'll need root.
[03:30] <jrib> IndyGunFreak: it reads ~/.mplayer/skins too...
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: it didn't for me.
[03:30] <iTG`Neatchee> wols_: for example, it's asking for libc6 >= 2.5-5 when feisty only has libc6 2.5-0 available
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> i tried that.\
[03:30] <arooni> Pelo: so my home parition is:  mount point:  /home .... type:  primary..... location :  beginning..... use as::: ext3 .....
[03:30] <arooni> right?
[03:31] <finn> anyone know which config file I have to edit to manually disable desktop effects?  since enabling it my gnome crashes badly, so I can't log in to graphically disable it.
[03:31] <Pelo> arooni, http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capturedevsdbgpartedky9.png
[03:31] <wols_> iTG`Neatchee: in the source: debian/ directory. there are the files with all the dependencies in them you can edit
[03:31] <wols_> !packaging | iTG`Neatchee
[03:31] <ubotu> iTG`Neatchee: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: you know what, might be this, i named my folder skin.. the s got dropped for some reason.
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> i'll try it now.
[03:31] <amrcidiot> I want to connect my DV Camera, to my pc, but when i connect it, and open KINO, it says it can't write or read the file. what do i do?
[03:31] <arooni> Pelo: so looks like what i typed matches up with your setup
[03:32] <iTG`Neatchee> !backports
[03:32] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[03:32] <anandanbu> How to add beryl or compiz desktop effects to default startup applications
[03:32] <Cain_UnAbel> ok i extracted them to skins jrib
[03:32] <Pelo> arooni, I didn't see
[03:32] <jrib> IndyGunFreak: yeah, works here, I just tried
[03:32] <arooni> Pelo: so my home parition is:  mount point:  /home .... type:  primary..... location :  beginning..... use as::: ext3 .....
[03:32] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: thats probably what it was
[03:32] <Cain_UnAbel> but they dont show up in mplayers skin browser
[03:32] <Pelo> arooni,  yeah, looks like it
[03:32] <jrib> Cain_UnAbel: close mplayer and start it again
[03:32] <ryanakca> jrib: hehe, http://www.xirium.com/tech/mud-shell/index.html mudsh
[03:33] <Cain_UnAbel> they're still not there jrib
[03:33] <Cain_UnAbel> i think i have to extract them to /usr/share/mplayer/skins
[03:33] <amrcidiot> anyone know?
[03:33] <Cain_UnAbel> except i dont have permission
[03:33] <jrib> Cain_UnAbel: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[03:33] <arooni> Pelo: if i ujse that setup i get this error:  "can't have the end before the start".. and thats wehther i try location: beginning || end..... should i try type:  logical instead?
[03:34] <jrib> (and anyone else that wants to help Cain_UnAbel )
[03:34] <ryanakca> amrcidiot: not enough permissions, either mounted as read only, or you don't have enough permissions
[03:34] <mtv> how do i figure out what usblp0 in /dev is attached to?
[03:34] <amrcidiot> how do i get permissions?
[03:34] <amrcidiot> or log onto root?
[03:34] <Flannel> !sudo | amrcidiot
[03:34] <ubotu> amrcidiot: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:35] <ryanakca> !chmod > amrcidiot
[03:35] <Pelo> arooni, I never used the beginning and end values,  I just whipped the hdd,  then added a new partition , with the size, by default it start at the first available sector
[03:35] <Flannel> ryanakca: chmod is not the answer.
[03:35] <andresjrm> amrcidiot: or do Alt+F2, type gksu, Enter, and run a program from there
[03:35] <Flannel> Oh, sorry.  mounting.  I should answer in context.
[03:36] <amrcidiot> cool
[03:36] <amrcidiot> thanks
[03:36] <arooni> Pelo: how do i kill the setup app, it froze, but i can still launch terminal?
[03:36] <ryanakca> Flannel: @.@ if user doesn't have access to /media/camera/ , well, it doesn't help, if it's fstab related/mounted read-only, that's different.
[03:37] <Pelo> try stepping back using the buttons,  otherwhise I donT' know
[03:37] <ryanakca> mtv: if it's a usb device, lsusb
[03:37] <andresjrm> arooni: killall installer maybe?
[03:37] <ryanakca> mtv: well, that should give you an idea... kindof
[03:37] <mtv> ryanakca: that you, it at least tells me my printer is hooked up
[03:38] <macabro22> Hi
[03:38] <mtv> at the moment, i am kinda at a standstill with my printer
[03:38] <macabro22> Can someone help on editing a video to add a soundtrack?
[03:38] <madman91> samba help please .. --> how do i find the //servername/sharename of a windows computer?
[03:38] <shawn34> how can I add my user to the 'video' group
[03:38] <iTG`Neatchee> Ok I'm kind of getting somewhere..
[03:38] <madman91> shawn34: system -- admininstration -- users + groups
[03:39] <amrcidiot> i tried doing what you said, but still problems. this is what i get http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/amrcidiot/Screenshot-Untitled-Kino.png (bottom left error)
[03:39] <madman91> shawn34: then manage groups -- find the video group -- blah blah blah
[03:39] <shawn34> madman91, i don't see video in there thats the problem
[03:39] <madman91> shawn34: is there a video group?
[03:39] <madman91> shawn34: maybe you need to create it
[03:39] <macabro22> Which program can I use?
[03:39] <shawn34> madman91, crw-rw---- 1 root video 171, 32 2007-06-24 15:48 0
[03:39] <iTG`Neatchee> In order to install pidgin-otr, it requires pidgin << 1:3.0 and >= 1:2.0 to be installed.  I installed Pidgin 2.0.2 from source (because there is no amd64 pkg for feisty) so it tells me pidgin isn't installed.  What can I do about this?
[03:39] <shawn34> madman91, thats a ls -l from /dev/dv1934
[03:39] <ibanex> shawn34: you could try to edit /etc/group
[03:40] <madman91> iTG`Neatchee: you instaleld with sudo make install right?
[03:40] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[03:40] <iTG`Neatchee> yes
[03:40] <IndyGunFreak> iTG`Neatchee: install it properly?...lol
[03:40] <madman91> larson9999: whoooo
[03:40] <iTG`Neatchee> Lol, it's installed and running just fine
[03:40] <shawn34> ibanex, ok found it in there. do i have to reboot or restart x?
[03:40] <madman91> iTG`Neatchee: I am a 64bit user and i installed from source.. and its fine
[03:41] <raf256> larson9999: why
[03:41] <iTG`Neatchee> madman91: you got pidgin-otr working?
[03:41] <ibanex> shawn34: i think it may depend on what app depends on the group... not sure
[03:41] <madman91> iTG`Neatchee: otr ?
[03:41] <hendrixski> hey
[03:41] <iTG`Neatchee> madman91: off the record
[03:42] <madman91> samba help please .. --> how do i find the //servername/sharename of a windows computer?
[03:42] <ice799> Hi - I am having some serious problems installing ubuntu on old hardware -- the BIOS doesn't support booting from CD, so I installed grub4dos and got the ubuntu installer to load -- the problem is that when the installer tries to detect and mount the cdrom drive, it hangs in a retry loop trying to adjust the timeout for ata1. I believe this is because of the new ata_piix or whatever the module is called -- as a result the installer co
[03:42] <ice799> mplains that the CD is not mounted. It is strange because when I launch a shell from the installer /cdrom has all the files that are on the CD in that directory.. Is there a way to point the installer to that directory and have it continue installing?
[03:42] <madman91> iTG`Neatchee: what is that?
[03:42] <sharcle> so I just installed feisty, and I didn't have the option of going to 1600x1200. I manually edited xorg.conf to add 1600x1200 and now that works. but I still can't get it to 60 Hz, it's just 50 Hz. How do I do that?
[03:42] <amrcidiot> i'm not sure if anyone saw mine, there's a lot of people here. so this is what i said, "i tried doing what you said, but still problems. this is what i get http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/amrcidiot/Screenshot-Untitled-Kino.png (bottom left error)" it's not a permissions error
[03:42] <iTG`Neatchee> madman91: one-click encryption for pidgin
[03:42] <iTG`Neatchee> very strong, very easy
[03:42] <andresjrm> madman91: what do you mean? network:/// will show you the network resources...
[03:42] <madman91> iTG`Neatchee: i didnt install that
[03:42] <iTG`Neatchee> well that's the problem :P
[03:42] <madman91> andresjrm: it doesnt
[03:43] <iTG`Neatchee> otr doesn't have a package for feisty
[03:43] <madman91> andresjrm: it just shows the windows network.. and when i double click.. nothing is under it
[03:43] <devnull> urgh..
[03:43] <iTG`Neatchee> so i'm trying to get the gutsy package to work, and i'm having problems, because it's telling me pidgin isn't installed when it is :P
[03:43] <madman91> andresjrm: sometimes it does though
[03:43] <devnull> ati driver will not compile. Think its because of xorg 7.2. Does anyone know a way to downgrade to 7.1?
[03:43] <andresjrm> madman91: well that's what i mean :). strange that sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't...
[03:43] <madman91> andresjrm: yeah... any ideas?
[03:44] <andresjrm> madman91: what do you want to do?
[03:44] <madman91> andresjrm: i have a windows computer on my network.. i want to access its share folder
[03:44] <madman91> and mount it .. preferably
[03:44] <madman91> all i need right now... is the //servername/sharename
[03:44] <madman91> and i should get it to work
[03:45] <madman91> andresjrm: the workgroup name is called WORKGROUP
[03:45] <genetrix> hello
[03:45] <madman91> andresjrm: and the computer name is .. seedbox i think
[03:45] <Pelo> hey
[03:45] <madman91> genetrix: hello
[03:45] <andresjrm> madman91: i don't know :(
[03:45] <madman91> andresjrm: :(
[03:46] <Pelo> that was nice, just dropping by to say hello
[03:46] <andresjrm> madman91: have you tried using it directly? (smb://seddbox)
[03:46] <devnull> ok or how bout this
[03:46] <amrcidiot> anyone?
[03:46] <devnull> How do I get 3d acceleration with the ati driver?
[03:46] <madman91> andresjrm: no
[03:47] <devnull> !ati
[03:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:47] <Pelo> devnull,  try asking in #beryl or #ubuntu-effects,  they probably know abut that stuff
[03:47] <CNTRLX> is there something i can use as a square on my desktop or something to magnify small text with my mouse?
[03:48] <joseAway> hey all
[03:48] <Music_Shuffle> hi :)
[03:48] <Pelo> amrcidiot,  try looking for a kino channel they might know
[03:48] <amrcidiot> k
[03:48] <amrcidiot> thanks
[03:48] <ryanakca> mtv: np :)
[03:48] <joseAway> Who can recommend the best way to let users upload files to a designated directory without giving them 'real' user accounts?
[03:48] <ice799> Hi - I am having some serious problems installing ubuntu on old hardware -- the BIOS doesn't support booting from CD, so I installed grub4dos and got the ubuntu installer to load -- the problem is that when the installer tries to detect and mount the cdrom drive, it hangs in a retry loop trying to adjust the timeout for ata1. I believe this is because of the new ata_piix or whatever the module is called -- as a result the installer co
[03:48] <ice799> mplains that the CD is not mounted. It is strange because when I launch a shell from the installer /cdrom has all the files that are on the CD in that directory.. Is there a way to point the installer to that directory and have it continue installing?
[03:48] <madman91> andresjrm: doesnt work
[03:48] <daskidud1> when i am copying why do i keep getting i/o errors?
[03:48] <Pelo> CNTRLX,  I think there is a magnifinig glass ,  check in synaptic, or it might be part of the desktop effects
[03:49] <rogue780> does anyone else have problems with open office not saving some formatting when you save it as a doc file?
[03:49] <CNTRLX> ok
[03:49] <madman91> andresjrm: the wokrgroup is called WORKGROUP and the computer is called seedbox or seedbox. .. im not sure.. but i know its one of those (i am looking atthe windows computer)
[03:49] <madman91> andresjrm: i tried smb://WORKGROUP/seedbox(.)
[03:50] <Pelo> rogue780,  doc is the word file format,  OOo doesn'T save well in that,  blame MS
[03:50] <Pelo> ice799,  try the forum
[03:50] <radioaktivstorm> how do i turn off this SCIM thing....it just switched to arabic a while ago.
[03:50] <rogue780> Pelo, unfortunately my university only accepts .doc format...and I need that paragraph indent
[03:51] <rogue780> so instead of tabbing them all like I could...I'm just installing word on my windows box :(
[03:51] <oscurochu> , ""
[03:51] <Pelo> rogue780,  try asking in #openoffice.org  they might have some solution for you
[03:51] <oscurochu> I got this error "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[03:51] <Pelo> oscurochu, what were you doing ?
[03:51] <oscurochu> Pelo: compiling mysql.
[03:52] <Kingpin> Can anyone help me out with installing Steam?
[03:52] <Pelo> oscurochu, I assume you installed build-essential ?
[03:52] <oscurochu> Pelo: I was running ./configure
[03:52] <Pelo> oscurochu, the question still applies
[03:53] <rustalot> why is the swap inside a logical partition?
[03:53] <oscurochu> Pelo, I don't know
[03:53] <Kingpin> Can anyone help me out with installing Steam?
[03:53] <Pelo> oscurochu,  sudo apt-get install build-essential   then try again
[03:53] <oscurochu> ok thanks.
[03:54] <Pelo> Kingpin,  I do not accept private msg from ppl I don't know , and If I knew how to help you I would have offered
[03:54] <Kingpin> Ok sorry, I'm new
[03:55] <wols> iTG`Neatchee: you have the wrong version. 2.x is NOT 1.2.x
[03:55] <wols> pidgin << 1:3.0 and >= 1:2.0
[03:55] <wols> smaller then 1.3.0 version wise
[03:55] <Kingpin> Message me if you can help me install steam please.
[03:56] <Pelo> Kingpin,  this is a  community support chanel, ie ppl here are users just like you , we can help with stuff we know about,   different ppl have different skills and there are different ppl at different time of day,
[03:56] <Pelo> Kingpin,  if no one currently in can help try searching in the forum   www.ubuntuforums.com
[03:56] <iTG`Neatchee> wols: thing is, it's telling me pidgin is not installed at all, not that it's the wrong version
[03:56] <oscurochu> Pelo: now I get this error: checking for termcap functions library... configure: error: No curses/termcap library found
[03:56] <iTG`Neatchee> wrong version I could deal with by forcing the deps
[03:56] <Kingpin> ok
[03:56] <wols> iTG`Neatchee: no -dev package for pidgin? it most probably needs some pidgin headers
[03:57] <crimsun> oscurochu: install libncurses5-dev
[03:57] <oscurochu> sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev?
[03:57] <crimsun> yes
[03:57] <iTG`Neatchee> wols: there's actually no feisty packages at all for pidgin.  I installed from source
[03:57] <Pelo> oscurochu,  you will get a lot of msg like that , when you do ,  open up synaptic and search for the dependency that is missing, install it and run  ./configure again
[03:57] <wols> iTG`Neatchee: and no you can't deal with that by forcing them. it's onething if the ubuntu packager wants that version but another one if the program to compiled needs it.
[03:57] <Arrick> !iptables
[03:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:57] <wols> iTG`Neatchee: if it did work with >1.3.0 it would say so
[03:57] <oscurochu> ok, thanks.
[03:57] <hendrixski> is there a channel for openoffice questions?
[03:58] <iTG`Neatchee> 1.3.0 != 1:3.0
[03:58] <Pelo> oscurochu,  isn'T there a mysql pacakge in synaptic ?
[03:58] <wols> oops. didn't see the ":"
[03:58] <wols> iTG`Neatchee: but as I said: it mos probably misses a header file
[03:58] <oscurochu> Pelo, yes. but I always have errors when using apache, so im just going to do this all from source so i know what's wrong.
[03:58] <BillTheFish> Where can i find video support?
[03:58] <hendrixski> oh... #openoffice.org lol.. :-)
[03:59] <iTG`Neatchee> wols: probably.  Anything I can do about it, since I installed from source?
[03:59] <wols> iTG`Neatchee: there is a pidgin-dev at least in debian sid. check ubuntu repos for such a thing
[03:59] <wols> iTG`Neatchee: why did you install from source?
[03:59] <CNTRLX> just get pidgin from their site
[03:59] <oscurochu> Thanks, Pelo
[03:59] <wols> iTG`Neatchee: there is a reason this is discouraged
[04:00] <ketzal> hello aLejandro xd
[04:00] <iTG`Neatchee> wols: because there are no feisty packages for pidgin.  Gutsy packages require libnss3 (when pidgin actually only needs libnss)
[04:00] <aLejandro> HOla ketzal
[04:00] <wols> iTG`Neatchee: you already are bedning gutsy package
[04:00] <wols> s
[04:00] <aLejandro> =)
[04:00] <CNTRLX> im running pidgin from ubuntu 5.10
[04:01] <BillTheFish> Alright, i'm using 7.06 though my video isn't correct.. its maxed out at 800x600.. I'm using Nvidia GeForce.. Any suggestions?
[04:01] <iTG`Neatchee> CNTRLX: i have pidgin, that's not the problem.  I'm trying to get OTR to work in pidgin
[04:01] <orestesm> hi, i am having a weird problem with wireless networking on my laptop; it works just fine when I boot off of the CD but does not connect to the router when I boot from the installed image on the HD; anyone see this before?
[04:01] <CNTRLX> oooh ok
[04:01] <wols> BillTheFish: wrong monitot settings?
[04:01] <iTG`Neatchee> wols: say again?
[04:02] <wols> iTG`Neatchee: you already are bedning gutsy packages. so what'S another package. and what you need is pidgin-dev, for your used version
[04:03] <iTG`Neatchee> ok, but i'm afraid that installing the dev package will break my current install, because the gutsy package installs pidgin to a slightly different location from the source install
[04:04] <enviouz> is there anyway to refresh the desktop? after closing wine my icons are huge
[04:04] <iTG`Neatchee> source installs to /usr/local, while gutsy packages just install to /usr
[04:04] <Frogzoo> enviouz: reset your res'n
[04:05] <illusions> what is the kernel version for 7.04?
[04:05] <gravemind> hey, sup
[04:05] <Jordan_U>  illusions #ubuntu+1
[04:06] <royel> Can someone tell me if there is a way to run the "import wizard" that Ubuntu first runs when you set up the OS
[04:06] <buzzed> any good wifi tools... wifi-radar does not seem to launch
[04:06] <arooni> i'm having trouble manually partitoning (the wizard that comes with ubuntu install) ... i have one 300gb drive.   so far i have created (1) primary 10GB partition, location (beginning) use as (ext3), mount point (/).  and (2) swap, primary, location (beginning), use as (swap)....... QUESTION:  whenever i try to create the last parition for /home.... i get this error: "Can't have end before...
[04:06] <shadeofgrey> okay folks
[04:06] <arooni> ...start" .... ideas?
[04:06] <gravemind> does any body make dvds with menu screens? I want to find out how
[04:06] <enviouz> after closing it screen resolutions says the same as it always does but stuff is just huge unless i hiot ctrl+alt+backspace and the login again
[04:06] <Jordan_U> buzzed, network-manager
[04:06] <Sandma1> can someone help me reinstall my NVidia driver??
[04:06] <Jordan_U> Sandma1, System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager
[04:07] <shadeofgrey> heres the fifteen million dollar trivia question.  does the exchange from an ATI to Nvidia graphiocs card in the new apple macbookpro's mean that installing ubuntu on them gets far easier?
[04:07] <enviouz> gravemind:  i havent figured out how to do that with linux let
[04:07] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, Yes
[04:07] <gravemind> enviouz: I could always transfer my videos to the imac and use iDVD :P
[04:07] <wols> shadeofgrey: not really. but the graphics will get faster in Linux
[04:07] <Sandma1> ok but what do i do there?
[04:07] <iTG`Neatchee> wols:  also there is no dev package in the gutsy repos for pidgin :(
[04:07] <shadeofgrey> well
[04:07] <shadeofgrey> see
[04:07] <shadeofgrey> i wanna run ubuntu really bad
[04:07] <enviouz> i transfer mine to windows and do it (only reason i even have a win partition)
[04:07] <shadeofgrey> but not bad enough to give up an apple for a pc
[04:07] <arooni> ne ideas?
[04:07] <yo2k> Sandma1: man apt-get
[04:07] <wols> iTG`Neatchee: backport from debian sid then?
[04:08] <gravemind> enviouz: here's something I found, but I'm too tired to try it tonight
[04:08] <gravemind> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6953
[04:08] <K350> I'm - desperately - looking for a DJ software such as the window  programs ACID, mixmeister and the like for Linux - Ubuntu..anyone?
[04:08] <emet> how do I decrypt CSS DRM DVDs
[04:08] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: nvidia is better than ATI, yes.  But the biggest hurdle for the macs are EFI, not the GUI.
[04:08] <iTG`Neatchee> wols: there's no pidgin package in ubuntu repos prior to gutsy
[04:08] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, The macbooks are even better, intel graphics
[04:08] <enviouz> ill check that out
[04:08] <emet> !css
[04:08] <iTG`Neatchee> it's a rename from Gaim
[04:08] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:08] <iTG`Neatchee> wols: it's a rename of Gaim, but the rename breaks a bunch of plugins.
[04:08] <Jordan_U> Flannel, BIOS emulation, no need to mess with EFI ( unless you want to )
[04:09] <shadeofgrey> flannel -- so what your saying is that until ubuntu adds efi support its going to always be touch and go and really complicated to get ubuntu ruinning on a mac of any flavor
[04:09] <iTG`Neatchee> wols: and the newest version of the software (with a ton more features, and security fixes) has no gaim named version.
[04:10] <enviouz> K350:  theres audacity rosegarden ardour ect depending on what you want to do (i use them for audio creation though)
[04:10] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, No, A major goal of Edgy was intel mac support, and with BIOS emulation it is for the most part just like any PC
[04:10] <emet> !css
[04:10] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:10] <iTG`Neatchee> wols: there is a fixed version of pidgin-otr plugin for the rename, but they, for some reason that i can't fathom, didn't release it for feisty, only gutsy
[04:10] <b4ggi0> who can teach me  how can I add static route to a pptp VPN client automatically.thanks.
[04:10] <dick-richardson> I'm going to install kubuntu to see if it fixes the cpu soft lockup errors I'm getting...will my repos change?
[04:11] <shadeofgrey> Jordan_U, than why are the install instructions so damb complicated?  installing bootcamp - the installing refit etc etc...  its a huge risk
[04:11] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, Although Ubuntu does also have EFI support ( and has had it since before Apple used it )
[04:11] <crimsun> iTG`Neatchee: well we didn't release pidgin for feisty, so it would have made next to no sense to release pidgin-otr for feisty.
[04:11] <iTG`Neatchee> crimsun: right, and i still don't know why pidgin itself wasn't released for feisty lol
[04:11] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, They are no more complicated than installing windows on intel macs
[04:11] <iTG`Neatchee> crimsun: as a backport i mean
[04:11] <cipy> how can I restore the original xorg.conf  ?
[04:12] <dick-richardson> I'm going to install kubuntu to see if it fixes the cpu soft lockup errors I'm getting...will my repos change?
[04:12] <K350> enviouz: Those softwares are nto quite what I'm looking for.  I'm looking for a more DJ spesific sort of tool
[04:12] <crimsun> iTG`Neatchee: do the legwork, then ;)
[04:12] <Jordan_U> cipy, Did you back it up?
[04:12] <cipy> no, I didn't
[04:12] <iTG`Neatchee> crimsun: if i knew how, i'd be glad to XD
[04:12] <Jordan_U> cipy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[04:12] <K350> enviouz: Rosegarden and those program ar emore of multitrack recorders adn midi sequezners then DJ softwares...if you understnad what I mean?
[04:12] <crimsun> iTG`Neatchee: we have backport procedures documented on the Ubuntu wiki.
[04:13] <iTG`Neatchee> !backports
[04:13] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[04:13] <iTG`Neatchee> !packaging
[04:13] <ubotu> The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[04:13] <enviouz> K350:  like making custom mixes or?
[04:13] <K350> enviouz: yeah sort of:-)
[04:13] <shadeofgrey> Jordan_U, then you have way better access to far better instructions than me
[04:13] <enviouz> ok let me check a few things out ill get back to you in a few mins
[04:14] <K350> enviouz: okay..pls pm..okay?
[04:14] <dick-richardson> I'm going to install kubuntu to see if it fixes the cpu soft lockup errors I'm getting...will my repos change?
[04:14] <enviouz> ok will do
[04:14] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBook
[04:14] <oscurochu> When I ran ./configure, i made a type and made the prefix /us/local/mysql instead of /usr/local/mysql. How can I fix this without recompiling it?
[04:14] <K350> enviouz: thx:-)
[04:14] <shadeofgrey> Jordan_U, are you saying that  your supremely confident you could help me through installing ubuntu on my coreduo macbookpro with ATI support?
[04:14] <Flannel> oscurochu: Why don't you just use mysql from the repositories?
[04:15] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, Considering that I have the exact same computer, Yes :)
[04:15] <yo2k> oscurochu: ./consigure --help
[04:15] <cipy> I have a  "nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 440 Go] " video adapter, what driver should I use ?
[04:15] <oscurochu> it doesn't work right
[04:15] <wols>  oscurochu you can't
[04:15] <yo2k> oscurochu: ./configure --help
[04:15] <yo2k> oscurochu: ./configure -h
[04:15] <dthacker> dick-richardson: they'll be changed back to defaults.
[04:15] <w9fyi> is anybody here?
[04:15] <Pici> w9fyi: is this a trick question?
[04:15] <oscurochu> what if i just move /us/local/mysql to /usr/local/mysql?
[04:15] <Bogaurd> I'm having the same issue as described in this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/118580 - There has already been a response posted - does this mean in the next kernel release these modules will be present/enabled?
[04:15] <shadeofgrey> Jordan_U, have i told you yoiur my new hero?  because its true
[04:15] <dick-richardson> dthacker: right...I'm mostly curious if the ubuntu specification in /etc/apt/sources.list needs to be changed to kubuntu
[04:16] <royel> Can someone tell me if there is a way to run the "import wizard" that Ubuntu first runs when you set up the OS
[04:16] <n2diy> w9fyi: 1046 of us OM.
[04:16] <Pici> Bogaurd: Only if you are running 2.6.22, which right now is only in Gutsy
[04:16] <yo2k> oscurochu: make uninstall than ./configure again...
[04:16] <shadeofgrey> Jordan_U, but see -- the part i dont get is this...  i tried running the liveCD without installation and xorg.conf sent me hate mail.  it wouldnt initialize the gui
[04:16] <dthacker> dick-richardson: give me a few mins to boot a laptop and I'll check
[04:17] <dick-richardson> dthacker: thank you! :)
[04:17] <shadeofgrey> Jordan_U, it wouldnt even give me a cmdline
[04:17] <wols> shadeofgrey: it can only do vesa or fglrx. not fglrx on the CD
[04:17] <oscurochu> do i have to run make again? or can i just run make install?
[04:17] <Bogaurd> Pici: hrmm. I'm not no. I'm running feisty. Would it be possible to somehow enable this module on feisty?
[04:17] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, Yea, that is due to thee ATI card, you can get to a terminal by pressing ctrl+alt+F1
[04:17] <Pici> Bogaurd: I think it would require compiling your own kernel, but I'm not sure.
[04:17] <rockets> How come nobody's written an mplayer plugin for totem? It seems to work much MUCH better then gstreamer
[04:17] <yo2k> oscurochu: have you make install?
[04:18] <oscurochu> yes
[04:18] <dick-richardson> rockets: totem-xine works much better
[04:18] <shadeofgrey> Jordan_U, so okay then.  what do i have to do to get instructions forinstalling on a macbopokpro with ati graphics and the original coreduo chipset?
[04:18] <rockets> dick-richardson, either way, gstreamer sucks. so why is it the default? it can BARELY handle wmv
[04:18] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, Then run this and choose "fglrx" when asked : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:18] <shadeofgrey> Jordan_U, also -- does the factt that we bought early and cant do 64 bit syupport mean i have to buy thenew macbookpro to run leopard?
[04:18] <yo2k> oscurochu: 1.make uninstall, 2. ./configure
[04:19] <dick-richardson> rockets: I don't have problems with the files I'm getting using w32codecs and totem-xine...what are you seeing?
[04:19] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, AFAIK no, but I am not sure.
[04:19] <yo2k> oscurochu: 3. make, 4. make install
[04:19] <rockets> dick-richardson, with totem-gstreamer, if i play wmv its fine, unless i try to drag the time to the middle of the movie or something
[04:19] <rockets> it just doesnt play
[04:19] <shadeofgrey> okay well look
[04:19] <oscurochu> i was hoping there was a way around recompiling. ok thanks anyways.
[04:20] <oscurochu> is there a linux equivalent of the windows cls?
[04:20] <dick-richardson> gotcha, not sure then...
[04:20] <crimsun> oscurochu: `clear` or `reset`
[04:20] <oscurochu> oh ok
[04:20] <yo2k> oscurochu: clr
[04:21] <shadeofgrey> i run mac because im an adobe slut.  im interested in running ubuntu becvause before i got my mac i waas making $300 a person converting all the university students in my town from windows to ubuntu so their parents didnt have to pay to have the machine cleaned at the end of every semester because the FAU Universdity network is absurdly infdected
[04:21] <dick-richardson> are desktop effects in kubuntu?
[04:21] <Jordan_U> dick-richardson, AFIK yes, but ask in #kubuntu
[04:22] <dick-richardson> will do, thank you :)
[04:22] <shadeofgrey> and i have 15 people RIGHT now looking to get me to install ubuntu on their dells and hp laptops and shit but i dont feel right about saying i can do it fort them because i havent used ubuntu since dapper and have no idea how hard it is to do laptop installas with feisty
[04:22] <shadeofgrey> or whatever the hell you guys call the most recent release
[04:22] <dthacker> dick-richardson: you will not need to change to kubuntu
[04:23] <yo2k> oscurochu: sorry, clear i mean... ( i create a filename clr, that is contain bash script to clear like cls)
[04:23] <dick-richardson> dthacker: thank you!!!
[04:23] <CTho_> how is supertux only 2 stars popularity? that game freaking rules!
[04:23] <iMayKnow> shadeofgrey, fiesty is rediculously easy on a laptop
[04:24] <dthacker> shadeofgrey: feisty, and I've only had one issue between two laptops.
[04:24] <shadeofgrey> iMayKnow, yeah but what about wireless?  thats the ine thing i could never gurantee compatability with because there were so many variants of wireless cards in use
[04:24] <ajmorris_> ajmorris
[04:24] <dick-richardson> anyone come across the Bug: cpu soft lockup on cpu#0! ?
[04:24] <imbecile> hey guys how do i change my splash screen?
[04:25] <gravemind> how do you mount a .bin?
[04:25] <ajmorris_> oops lol, testing msgs... sorry all
[04:25] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, Wow, they have added some new stuff to the howto, I am glad I looked it over, now I can set the minimum fan speed in Ubuntu instead of having to reboot into OSX :)
[04:25] <cipy> I've installed the nvidia-glx driver, but my screen becomes black when I start the X server, anyone facing the same  problem ?
[04:25] <SlashLife> gravemind: iirc considering it to be a .iso suffices
[04:25] <SlashLife> Not sure, but it's worth a try.
[04:25] <gravemind> SlashLife: I think it gave me wrong fs type
[04:26] <shadeofgrey> Jordan_U, what page are you lookimng at?
[04:26] <ezE_> hi
[04:26] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, Your card will just work in Feisty
[04:26] <imbecile> gravemind,  does it have a .cue file?
[04:26] <gravemind> imbecile: yeah
[04:26] <imbecile> gravemind,  are you trying to burn it?
[04:26] <shadeofgrey> Jordan_U, what page are you lookimng at?
[04:26] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook most of it applies to macbook pro also, and the howto is better than the macbook pro one IMHO
[04:26] <dthacker> dick-richardson:  I see a few entries on launchpad for that error.
[04:26] <gravemind> imbecile: no, just mount
[04:26] <ezE_> this Xchat is sooooo old  .16
[04:27] <ezE_> 0.16
[04:27] <dick-richardson> dthacker: where's launchpad?
[04:27] <dthacker> dick-richardson: first one to pop up is #108355
[04:27] <imbecile> gravemind,  im not sure how to do that but i do know when burning you just drag the cue over
[04:27] <yo2k> gravemind: .bin same windows .exe, i think...
[04:27] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, I can help you where there are differences, the only real difference is with the GFX since the macbook pro uses an ATI card and macbook uses intel
[04:28] <dthacker> https://launchpad.net/
[04:28] <dukex64> hello
[04:28] <mattycoze> hey guys, I need to make a website and I use Ubuntu, I need a good WYSIWYG editor, does anyone know what would be good>
[04:28] <natsumey_> usually
[04:28] <imbecile> gravemind,  and leave the bin. the cue is like a placemarker and pulls over the bin
[04:28] <natsumey_> NIS using what kind of port ?
[04:28] <preaction> shadeofgrey: i've noticed on my MBP that I have to use the console to load the fglrx driver before I can load X
[04:28] <yo2k> mattycoze: bluefush , nvu or ...?
[04:28] <SlashLife> matti: text editor > "WYSIWYG"
[04:29] <SlashLife> ~ mattycoze
[04:29] <preaction> shadeofgrey: otherwise, the last time i loaded the fiesty live CD, everything else worked
[04:29] <SlashLife> shoot, I'm getting tired.
[04:29] <yo2k> mattycoze: bluefish , nvu or ...?
[04:29] <mattycoze> lol i haven't got time to use a text editor
[04:29] <gravemind> imbecile: yeah, I burn cue/bins all the time but I can't figure out how to mount one
[04:29] <gravemind> yo2k: what?
[04:29] <mattycoze> thanks i'll check them out
[04:29] <preaction> !html | mattycoze
[04:29] <ubotu> mattycoze: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[04:29] <ignignokt> gravemind, maybe acetone2
[04:29] <ignignokt> or acetoneiso or something similar
[04:29] <clouder`grr> anyone know what I can use to rip a cd over a network?  I have an audio CD in my mom's computer because my cdrom drive doesn't work but I want to rip it using my compy
[04:29] <bruenig> !iso | gravemind
[04:29] <ubotu> gravemind: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:29] <Jordan_U> mattycoze, bluefish is good I am told
[04:30] <ignignokt> can anyone help me with k3b?  i get a cdrecord error code 254
[04:30] <ignignokt> when burning anything
[04:30] <gravemind> bruenig: does that include bchunk? cause I already tried that and it gave me two isos from one cue/bin
[04:30] <ignignokt> images, movies, audio cds
[04:30] <dukex64> can someone help me get my back and forward buttons on my mouse to work.  i tried following the guides and how-tos but still no luck
[04:30] <andresjrm> ignignokt: what's the error message?
[04:30] <ignignokt> cdrecord error
[04:30] <ignignokt> code 254
[04:30] <ignignokt> that's it
[04:30] <albertmk> Can anyone tell me how to make my Ubuntu 7.04 64-bit get "32-bit compatibility environment"?????????
[04:31] <ignignokt> it says using TAO writing might help the error but it doesn't
[04:31] <eyemean> when ever i parallels and have windows xp in it, the workstation is transparent
[04:31] <ignignokt> i can link you to the console output if you want andresjrm, it's on ubuntuforums
[04:31] <bruenig> gravemind, you don't have a browser?
[04:31] <Jordan_U> !chroot | albertmk
[04:31] <Cain_UnAbel> whenever i use mplayer and close it , esd takes up my sound card until i kill it , is there a way around this?
[04:31] <ubotu> albertmk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[04:31] <eyemean> can i change it to be solid
[04:31] <andresjrm> ignignokt: ok
[04:31] <ignignokt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2877869
[04:31] <gravemind> bruenig: I'm looking at that site, lol. just a though
[04:32] <andresjrm> albertmk: search for a package with the words emul and linux in it
[04:32] <gravemind> bruenig: I don't really want to convert to iso, I just want to mount the bin/cue
[04:32] <ignignokt> gravemind: have you tried acetone yet?
[04:32] <bruenig> gravemind, convert then mount
[04:32] <ignignokt> it's not in the repos, it's a gui for mounting
[04:32] <gravemind> ignignokt: Is it in synaptic?
[04:32] <ignignokt> i think it does bin/cue
[04:32] <ignignokt> no
[04:33] <gravemind> bruenig: I said, it gives me 2 isos, neither of which is usable
[04:33] <dick-richardso1> just happened again :(
[04:33] <gravemind> ignignokt: how do I get it then
[04:33] <John`> i'm trying to run a program in wine, but this program run as a file that use cmd.exe in windows.  Whenever i run it using wineconsole i get the error message of c:\\windows and c:\\windows\\system32 is not accessible both in the dos screen and in the terminal, is there a way to do it?
[04:34] <ignignokt> gravemind:  1 sec
[04:34] <Bogaurd> I need to get the IFQ module working with ubuntu - this module is not included in the ubuntu kernel at the moment - does anybody know of a location from which one could download this module?
[04:34] <lgc> Hi! My laptop won't hibernate because seemingly it can't find the swap device. But from 'top' I see that the swap space is actually being used. Any ideas? Thanks.
[04:34] <HorizonXP> hey
[04:34] <gravemind> ignignokt: "Only Ubuntu Linux : Mount and Unmount ISO,MDF,NRG Images Using Acetone..."
[04:34] <andresjrm> ignignokt: is cdrecord setuid?
[04:34] <gravemind> doesn't include bin cue : (
[04:34] <HorizonXP> i'm trying to compile mplayerplug-in, but i'm getting an error...can someone help?
[04:34] <ignignokt> :| sorry gravemind
[04:34] <bruenig|laptop> gravemind, acetone is a joke, it is a front end for mount
[04:34] <gravemind> wait,
[04:34] <gravemind> lolol
[04:35] <gravemind> AcetoneISO2 in QT4 has just been released and is able to mount ISO BIN NRG MDF IMG
[04:35] <ignignokt> andres: i don't know
[04:35] <jrib> HorizonXP: why compile?  it is packaged
[04:35] <n2diy> w9fyi: 1046 of us OM.
[04:35] <gravemind> it can mount bin
[04:35] <yo2k> HorizonXP: what error ?
[04:35] <gravemind> I don't care if it is a joke then
[04:35] <bruenig|laptop> guarantee you that it converts
[04:35] <HorizonXP> jrib: because it doesn't have proper support for Compiz
[04:35] <bruenig|laptop> then mounts
[04:35] <Cain_UnAbel> is there a way to connect frostwire to gnutell manually?
[04:35] <jrib> HorizonXP: what does that mean?
[04:35] <John`> ignignokt: can you help me?
[04:35] <gravemind> bruenig|laptop: using bin2iso?
[04:35] <HorizonXP> yo2k: when i make, it quits with "[plugin-ui.o]  Error 1"
[04:35] <gravemind> I haven't tried that one yet
[04:35] <bruenig|laptop> using acetone
[04:35] <ignignokt> what's your problem john?
[04:35] <Jordan_U> John`, Try #winehq
[04:36] <bruenig|laptop> gravemind, cues are just text files aren't they?
[04:36] <gravemind> yeah
[04:36] <HorizonXP> jrib: as in, it doesn't allow Compiz or Beryl to handle drawing the video, so it lags and doesn't allow desktop effects
[04:36] <daskidud1> this hates copying for me.  it keeps getting i/o errors
[04:36] <John`> thanks
[04:36] <andresjrm> ignignokt: i check mine is not, so that's not the problem... maybe you are not in the right group...
[04:36] <gravemind> bruenig|laptop: I mean, does it convert with bin2iso, because bchunk didn't seem to work
[04:36] <HorizonXP> yo2k: you want me to pastebin it?
[04:36] <yo2k> HorizonXP: file plugin-ui.o not found
[04:36] <bruenig|laptop> gravemind, try it, it is a simple c program, compile it and do ./bin2iso whatever.bin
[04:36] <ignignokt> andresjr: what group should I be in?
[04:36] <bruenig|laptop> the cue should not be needed
[04:37] <andresjrm> cdrom
[04:37] <ignignokt> that's the weird thing, i've been burning cds for a very long time and all of the sudden it started doing this
[04:37] <yo2k> HorizonXP: no... thank's
[04:37] <ignignokt> ok, i'll try that
[04:37] <lgc> Jordan_U, perhaps you have an idea...
[04:37] <HorizonXP> yo2k: as in, the compiled binary?
[04:37] <bruenig|laptop> ignignokt, hardware failure maybe, I had a drive go out on me not to long ago
[04:37] <daskidud1> any reason that i keep getting i/o errors when copying to my external?
[04:37] <bruenig|laptop> and not completely, just cd burning
[04:37] <bruenig|laptop> all else still worked
[04:37] <HorizonXP> yo2k: i don't get it... there's a plugin.o file in there
[04:37] <Jordan_U> lgc, Nope, no idea :(
[04:37] <jrib> HorizonXP: I'm still not sure what you are referring, it works fine here with compiz
[04:38] <albertmk> Can anyone tell me how to make my Ubuntu 7.04 64-bit get "32-bit compatibility environment"?????????
[04:38] <andresjrm> ignignokt: or any group 'ls -l /dev/`readlink /dev/cdrw`' tells you (and ensure that it is group writable)
[04:38] <HorizonXP> jrib: well it didn't for me when I upgraded to Compiz Fusion
[04:38] <ignignokt> thanks bruenig
[04:38] <jrib> !chroot > albertmk (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:38] <lgc> !swap
[04:38] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[04:38] <ignignokt> i'll swap one
[04:38] <yo2k> HorizonXP: what you first step to compiling ?
[04:39] <jrib> HorizonXP: so what do you need to change with the ubuntu package now?
[04:39] <HorizonXP> jrib: nothing really, i have a compiled version of mplayer that works fine, i just wanna get firefox to use it instead of totem
[04:39] <daskidud1> anyone have an idea about why my stuff isn't copying?
[04:39] <Wassim> Hey everyone, I have a brief question. I downloaded Xubuntu. It is saved in Iso? format. I want to put it on a CD so that I can install it on my laptop. Can anyone help?
[04:39] <HorizonXP> yo2k: whatoptions.sh, then configure (with those options), make
[04:40] <jrib> HorizonXP: so remove the totem plugin
[04:40] <Jordan_U> !iso | Wassim
[04:40] <HorizonXP> i did
[04:40] <ubotu> Wassim: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:40] <Jordan_U> Wassim, Sorry, wrong link
[04:40] <jrib> HorizonXP: did you restart your browser?
[04:40] <HorizonXP> but if I try to install mplayer-mozilla, it tries to install mplayer too
[04:40] <Flannel> !burning | Wassim
[04:40] <ubotu> Wassim: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:40] <HorizonXP> which I don't want
[04:40] <ignignokt> andresjr: i can't discern exactly the command you were telling me to do
[04:40] <andrupal_> spun my machine into an infinite loop...how do I mount the hd from live cd to change the bad file?
[04:40] <gabriel_> oooo
[04:41] <Tecmaniaco> hi guys
[04:41] <andresjrm> ignignok: what does discern mean? (sorry, english is not my first language)
[04:41] <Jordan_U> andrupal_, Just boot the LiveCD and go to Places -> Computer
[04:41] <Tecmaniaco> Im new in this chanel
[04:41] <yo2k> HorizonXP: sudo updatedb than find plugin-ui.o
[04:41] <Jordan_U> andresjrm, Find out
[04:41] <ignignokt> andresjrm: no problem, i just mean i don't understand what command you want me to do
[04:42] <jrib> HorizonXP: well your choices then are 1) install mplayer properly as a deb 2) compile the plugin 3) use equivs 4) figure out exactly what the issue is and get the repository version to work with compiz .  Did you pastebin your compiling errors?
[04:42] <Jordan_U> andresjrm, There are many channels for other languages, if you would rather have help in your native language
[04:42] <Tecmaniaco> Can i do a quetion for you?
[04:42] <ignignokt> Jordan_U: he's giving help at the moment
[04:42] <jrib> Tecmaniaco: yes, just ask
[04:42] <Jordan_U> !ask | Tecmaniaco
[04:42] <ubotu> Tecmaniaco: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:42] <andresjrm> ignignok: oh, what it does is look what does /dev/cdrom point to, and then give you the information of it
[04:42] <Tecmaniaco> sorry
[04:43] <Jordan_U> ignignokt, Ahh, missed that, just saw his last comment
[04:43] <ignignokt> andresjrm: but what command do i put in?
[04:43] <Tecmaniaco> I cannt install Beryl in my Laptop ?
[04:43] <HorizonXP> jrib: how would i install mplayer properly as a deb?
[04:43] <iTG`Neatchee> crimsun: alright, so i've installed prevu.  How do I make, for example, the gutsy deb of pidgin available for use in prevu?
[04:43] <andresjrm> Jordan_U: i am not asking :) i am answering, and i prefer to be in this channel, because channels in spanish usally have less people
[04:43] <crimsun> iTG`Neatchee: follow its usage instructions.
[04:43] <n2diy> ! ask | Tecmaniaco
[04:43] <ubotu> Tecmaniaco: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:43] <Jordan_U> Tecmaniaco, Can't as in don't know how, or as in it isn't working?
[04:44] <andresjrm> ignignokt: ls -l /dev/`readlink /dev/cdrw`
[04:44] <ignignokt> thank you
[04:44] <jrib> HorizonXP: download the source package, make the necessary modifications, and rebuild it: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[04:44] <Tecmaniaco> i have a Compaq with 1.33 Mhz AMD Atlon XP 512Mb Ram and Ati 64Mb
[04:44] <daskidud1> if i am copying using the terminal, how do i know it is working?
[04:45] <greg_g> could someone recommend a program that would stress my video card and processor but be able to run in a window (not fullscreen) I want to do some diagnosing
[04:45] <greg_g> glxgears isn't cutting it
[04:45] <Jordan_U> Tecmaniaco, Is your card supported by the open source ATI drivers?
[04:45] <ignignokt> andresjrm: that gives me a lot of text, what do i do with that
[04:45] <Tecmaniaco> yeah ia try install but my laptop is very slow
[04:45] <Tecmaniaco> yeahh
[04:45] <iTG`Neatchee> crimsun: oh wait, i see what i did.  Haha, the guide was written for edgy users, so i forgot to change "feisty" references to "gutsy"
[04:45] <iTG`Neatchee> hehe i'm smart :(
[04:46] <Jordan_U> greg_g, for the CPU you can run: yes > /dev/null
[04:46] <greg_g> what does "yes"do?
[04:46] <andresjrm> ignignokt: it should give you just one line, first there is the permissions, a space, a number, then a username, and then the group you should belong to to be able to burn discs
[04:46] <ignignokt> ah
[04:46] <tupa> is pureftpd a wrapper for ftp, or do they work differently?
[04:46] <Tecmaniaco> tha last time that try install Beryl the machine is blocked
[04:47] <andresjrm> ignignokt: ensure that the permissions are "brw-rw----"
[04:47] <ignignokt> andresjrm: then i'm not putting in right, i'm getting a line for every device.  you have two odd characters in the command you gave me, maybe i have to replace those with somethign?
[04:47] <greg_g> thanks Jordan_U , I got it
[04:48] <andresjrm> ignignokt, those characters are right :), i think you are getting so many lines because /dev/cdrw does not exist, does /dev/cdrom exist? (check with ls /dev/cdrom)
[04:48] <oipat> Why does the Restricted Drivers Manager require a reboot when installing the nvidia drivers?
[04:48] <ignignokt> andresjrm:  i think that's it, hang on
[04:49] <jrib> oipat: it probably only needs you to restart X
[04:49] <Tecmaniaco> sorry that my English is bad
[04:49] <andresjrm> ok.
[04:49] <Tecmaniaco> ok
[04:49] <Wassim> Wow! THank you! I put my Xubuntu iso on a CD using InfraRecorder. Now I want to put it in my Laptop, but do I need another file to read the Install file?
[04:49] <Tecmaniaco> i will try
[04:49] <troopperi> oipat: ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:49] <oipat> jrib: Yea, thats what I thought, just had to make sure I didn't do anything foolish.
[04:50] <jrib> oipat: I think it just wants to keep things simple for new users
[04:50] <andrupal_> I need to be able to delete or "save as" files on my HD from livecd...how can I access these?
[04:50] <Tecmaniaco> Can I do another question please???
[04:50] <n2diy> Wassim: just conigure your laptop to boot from the cdrom
[04:50] <ignignokt> andresjrm: yes, i got it.  i added a group called "cdrom" and added myself to it
[04:50] <Wassim> n2diy! THANK YOU!
[04:50] <Wassim> :)
[04:50] <Wassim> Have a goodnight everyone.
[04:50] <jrib> Tecmaniaco: yes, the question we do not like is: "Can I ask a question"
[04:50] <Jordan_U> andrupal_, Just boot the LiveCD and go to Places -> Computer
[04:50] <Wassim> Wish me luck. I might be back with Ubuntu in a few hours.
[04:50] <Wassim> Xubuntu. ;)
[04:50] <Wassim> Bye!
[04:50] <Tecmaniaco> sorry
[04:51] <ignignokt> andresjrm: do i need to log out and in for that to take effect?
[04:51] <Talaman72> how do i put my computer into the same domain/workgroup as the rest of my computers?
[04:51] <n2diy> Wassim: you too, happy install.
[04:51] <jrib> Tecmaniaco: it's ok, ask your question :)
[04:51] <andrupal_> Jordan_U:  Yes I did this, but it won't let me replace the bad file
[04:51] <andresjrm> ignignokt: good :). but you need to check that the device in /dev/ belongs to that group. mine is /dev/hdc, but i don't know wich one is yours
[04:51] <ignignokt> /dev/cdrom
[04:51] <ignignokt> or
[04:51] <ignignokt> ah ok
[04:51] <ignignokt> it's /dev/scd1
[04:52] <Jordan_U> andrupal_, Try editing it with sudo ( gksudo gedit /path/to/file )
[04:52] <andresjrm> ok ignignokt, /dev/sdcd1 should belong to the group cdrom, then. and be group writable
[04:52] <megafauna> hi. I think I got a trojan horse from irc. Can someone recommend a good antivirus pls?
[04:52] <ignignokt> ok, how do i make it belong to that group?
[04:52] <porthose> how can I find out what my IP address is via the command line
[04:52] <Tecmaniaco> Can I Install a LAMP in a Machine with a Processor300Mhz
[04:52] <andresjrm> sudo chown root:cdrom /dev/scd1
[04:52] <andrupal_> now livecd freezes again...ack.
[04:52] <Jordan_U> porthose, ifconfig
[04:52] <craigbass1976> megafauna, in Ubuntu you got a Trojan?
[04:52] <porthose> thanks
[04:52] <n2diy> megafauna: what is your OS?
[04:53] <megafauna> ubuntu
[04:53] <Tecmaniaco> is CentOS
[04:53] <megafauna> I had some link to some warez channel installed on my gnome toolbar
[04:53] <ignignokt> andresjrm:  thanks :) shall i log out/in to test?
[04:53] <craigbass1976> AVG has AV for linux, but I doubt that's your problem
[04:53] <craigbass1976> megafauna, AVG has AV for linux, but I doubt that's your problem
[04:53] <andrupal_> why does livecd freeze constantly?
[04:53] <megafauna> craigbass1976 I am installing that now.......
[04:53] <craigbass1976> megafauna, why do you think you got a trojan?
[04:54] <n2diy> megafauna: are there any other OSs on the hard drives?
[04:54] <andresjrm> ignignokt: yes, but just to be sure do 'sudo chmod g+w /dev/scd1' to ensure it is group writable ;)
[04:54] <Jordan_U> andrupal_, How much memory is there?
[04:54] <Ironman273> Could someone help me with a grub issue?
[04:54] <ignignokt> great, thanks andres
[04:54] <megafauna> craigbass1976 no, the windows hd is dead. I googled "linux irc virus" and it listed a couple of trojans
[04:54] <andrupal_> 1GB I think.
[04:54] <Tecmaniaco> no theres not
[04:54] <megafauna> craigbass1976 but i'm actually not sure
[04:54] <ignignokt> i'll test
[04:54] <iMayKnow> Ironman273, what is your grub issue?
[04:54] <craigbass1976> megafauna, well, is there any behavior that causes you to believe a trojan is on your box?
[04:55] <Ironman273> I use ubuntu as a secondary boot just to "play" with it.  I installed some updates and now grub doesn't list my Vista partition.
[04:55] <megafauna> craigbass1976 no. just a fear from reading google
[04:55] <megafauna> craigbass1976 and the link to the warez chan installed on my gnome toolbar
[04:55] <craigbass1976> Anyone... Isn't there a way to put a create mask on a directory?  craig is in the var-www group, but whenever he creates a file in /var/www, it's owned by craig user and group
[04:56] <Tecmaniaco> well i think that is all
[04:56] <craigbass1976> megafauna, what's warex again? Heard of it, but not sure
[04:56] <megafauna> craigbass1976 how could it have been installed automatically from irc? I didn't click anything I shouldn't have (am kinda savey)
[04:56] <blanky> !m4a
[04:56] <Tecmaniaco> thanks for all
[04:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:56] <iMayKnow> Ironman273, if you look in /boot/grub/menu.list they list several configurations that might help you to put your vista install back in the list... to figure out what partition number (e.g. hda1) your vista partition is on you can use something like gparted
[04:56] <craigbass1976> !create mask
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about create mask - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <craigbass1976> !create
[04:56] <Talaman72> how do i put my computer into the same domain/workgroup as the rest of my computers?   I can see my network, but when i double click on it it jacks up
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about create - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <megafauna> craigbass1976 it was from some nasty irc channel. warez it said
[04:56] <craigbass1976> !mask
[04:56] <ubotu> Tor & other common anonymizing proxies get abused to attack & spam Ubuntu channels, so they're blocked. Get a cloak from Freenode instead, and stop wasting your time with Tor: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[04:57] <megafauna> craigbass1976 i assume for pirated software. I haen't gone there btw
[04:57] <Tecmaniaco> exit
[04:57] <shadeofgrey> okasy herws the really important question
[04:57] <shadeofgrey> is anybody working on a version of ubuntu that uses beryl by default rather than gnome?
[04:57] <newuser> Hi. I have a desktop running ubuntu 7.04 ATI x1600. Does anyone know how to lower the contrast? gamma doesn't help.
[04:57] <shadeofgrey> beryl kicks aero's ass and then some
[04:57] <craigbass1976> megafauna, I don't know.  I suppose it's possible, but I just doubt you've got a trojan
[04:58] <Flannel> shadeofgrey: #ubuntu-effects would probably eb a better place to ask
[04:58] <vletmix> How can I get network manager to store a wep key without setting creating a keyring pass?
[04:58] <megafauna> craigbass1976 well that's good news. how do i run the avg scanner w/ sudo?
[04:58] <blanky> hey guys, for m4a playback I need gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse right?
[04:58] <Jordan_U> shadeofgrey, Gutsy ( next version of Ubuntu ) might
[04:59] <megafauna> craigbass1976 that was rhetorical. sorry
[04:59] <blanky> because I already have gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse but my m4a file wont play from rythm box so I'm installing gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad cause it said in the wiki it might be needed to make it work
[04:59] <andrupal_> How does gkedit work?  Where do I type this in the desktop?
[04:59] <crimsun> blanky: for GSt-based ones, you need gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse.
[04:59] <eyemean> how can i edit grub loade rpls, because winddows i slisted but i dont have it installed
[04:59] <Ironman273> iMayKnow: thanks for the help
[04:59] <andresjrm> andrupal_: i suppose you mean gedit... it is in Applications > Accessories > Text Editor
[05:00] <Jordan_U> eyemean, sudo update-grub or manually edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:00] <blanky> crimsun: alright thanks
[05:00] <iTG`Neatchee> crimsun: aight, new question.  Can I prevu a package and force it to ignore specific deps in the package?  For example, I want to try building pidgin using libnss instead of libnss3
[05:00] <Talaman72> is ubuntu down?
[05:00] <andrupal_> Well I meant gksudo gedit
[05:00] <crimsun> iTG`Neatchee: I don't use prevu.
[05:00] <eyemean> cheers jordan_l
[05:00] <iTG`Neatchee> :(
[05:00] <andrupal_> I need to deal with a file on the HD from livecd
[05:00] <Jordan_U> iTG`Neatchee, Yes, it is possible, look at man apt-get for more info
[05:00] <andresjrm> andrupal_: Alt+F2
[05:00] <John`> how come when i add the wineHQ apt repository through terminal, i get this error message :  shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory
[05:02] <n2diy> John, what is getcwp?
[05:02] <andrupal_> GD live Cd is freezing again...this is impossible.   I've got a hung terminal that won't boot and the liveCD environment won't allow me to work on the file that's causing the problem!
[05:02] <jrib> John`: you are in a directory you deleted
[05:02] <iTG`Neatchee> Jordan_U: i don't see anything in that man entry about forcing the use of different packages
[05:02] <cE_mUTzzzz> hi..
[05:03] <ubuntu> I made several atualization in this livecd, is there a way to save it to use again?
[05:03] <John`> jrib: how do i fix that?
[05:03] <jrib> John`: type 'cd'
[05:03] <andresjrm> andrupal_: what about just run sudo nano <thefileyouwant> from the Terminal?
[05:03] <Talaman72> ok, network issue
[05:03] <Talaman72> how do i put my computer into the same domain/workgroup as the rest of my computers?   I can see my network, but when i double click on it it jacks up
[05:03] <n2diy> jrib: in a deleted directory? That is interesting to know.
[05:03] <Dr_willis> Talaman72,  the samba config file has those options.
[05:03] <andrupal_> I can't figure out what path to use to the file...it's on the HD...not a part of the root on live cd...
[05:04] <Dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[05:04] <ubotu> samba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 6754 kB, installed size 14512 kB
[05:04] <craigbass1976> If a group (var-wwww) owns a directory, how do I make it so that any files created in that folder (by users in the group) are owned by the user and group var-www?
[05:04] <msl> andrupal_: You need to mount the partition first.   mount /dev/hda1    or simlar
[05:04] <andresjrm> andrupal_: but if you can use it, then it is mounted, the disk should be mounted on /media/
[05:04] <craigbass1976> I thought I was looking at a create mask, but that seems to be samba specific
[05:05] <andrupal_> ok will try once livecd boots for the 5th time
[05:05] <n2diy> andrupal_: click on places > home folder
[05:05] <Talaman72> Dr_willis, where is that?
[05:05] <SAM_theman> !printers
[05:05] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:05] <ubuntu> I made several atualization in this livecd, is there a way to save it to use again?
[05:05] <ignignokt> andresjrm:  I BURNED A CD!
[05:05] <Dr_willis> Talaman72,  in /etc/samba of course. :) notice the 'samba-doc' package.. 2 full books of how to use samba..
[05:05] <ignignokt> thanks a lot man
[05:05] <CNTRLX> are you in vernon Willis?
[05:05] <SAM_theman> I need help... my hp 3653 isn't supported ??
[05:05] <Dr_willis> CNTRLX,  im in indiana.
[05:05] <andresjrm> ignignokt: great! your welcome :)
[05:06] <CNTRLX> nice
[05:06] <ignignokt> i'm off to burn then, thanks again
[05:06] <Talaman72> Dr_willis, um, how about in the gui?
[05:06] <Dr_willis> Talaman72,  no idea. I could of edited/changed the work group in the time it took you to type "Dr_willis, um, how about in the gui?"
[05:07] <Wonderboy_> Hey, I'm trying to install avant-window-navigator and I'm getting this error when I try to run it:  undefined symbol: g_type_register_static_simple
[05:07] <Dr_willis> Samba is one of those things thats worth learning :) I reread 'using samba' last night. and learned a few new things..
[05:07] <Talaman72> well that's good for you Dr_willis, but it doesn't really help me
[05:08] <Talaman72> wow, and we are trying to get linux a bigger share of the market...good job
[05:08] <craigbass1976> Dr_willis, Your smart; I'll ask you.  If a group (var-wwww) owns a directory, how do I make it so that any files created in that folder (by users in the group) are owned by the user and group var-www?
[05:08] <Dr_willis> Talaman72,  edit the file with sudo. read the comments.. its rather straight forward.
[05:08] <jrib> craigbass1976: you want to setgid the directory, but that will only do the group part of your question
[05:09] <Dr_willis> craigbass1976,  groups and masks like that are somthing ive rarely used.  Like you mentioned - i did see that option for samba shares.. Not sure how it is done for normal dirs.
[05:09] <megafauna> so can someone recommend a good virus scanner or something along those lines for Ubuntu pls?
[05:09] <jrib> craigbass1976: you can probably look at ACL's too, but I don't specifics on that
[05:10] <craigbass1976> Dr_willis, Bah, I'll just copy it up to my home dir and copy it over again.  It's what I've been doing.
[05:10] <troopperi> megafauna: if you think its trojan try avast for linux
[05:10] <craigbass1976> jrib, I worked with ACL's on Solaris, and I can't remember if they were more of a pain than they were worth or not
[05:10] <n2diy> megafauna: no, sorry I can't, I don't need one with Linux/Ubuntu.
[05:10] <Dr_willis> craigbass1976,  heh. Ive rarely had users creating web content. so never looked into that stuff.
[05:10] <megafauna> troopperi thanks, i juust did avg and it didn't find a thing....
[05:10] <oipat> Why can't I use the Windows button in any shortcut combinations?
[05:10] <craigbass1976> megafauna, clamav?
[05:11] <megafauna> craigbass1976 thanks, i'll check them out too
[05:11] <craigbass1976> Dr_willis, I am the user, and was just hoping to avoid another cp
[05:11] <Talaman72> i just iggy the "dr", pretty much pointless info from that one
[05:11] <Flannel> oipat: you can
[05:11] <craigbass1976> Dr_willis, I shut down root ssh, or I'd just sudo it from here
[05:11] <phpcurious> hi guys, i have a question: how do i get started with Samba? that is a software which i can share files with pcs that have other OS right?
[05:12] <craigbass1976> phpcurious, yes
[05:12] <phpcurious> craigbass1976: so how do i use samba?
[05:12] <Dr_willis> phpcode,  yes. There are some samba books in the repos.
[05:12] <Dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[05:12] <ubotu> samba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 6754 kB, installed size 14512 kB
[05:12] <craigbass1976> phpcurious, OReilly has a samba book, and there's also a quick and dirty fix in their Linux cookbook.
[05:12] <Dr_willis> phpcode,  that package samba-doc includes 2 full book on samba.
[05:13] <phpcurious> Dr_willis: in pdf format?
[05:13] <Dr_willis> It includes the book craigbass1976  just mentioned. :) may be a older verion however.
[05:13] <craigbass1976> phpcurious, I can give you a conf file for such a "wide open" file sharing setup if you want
[05:13] <Dr_willis> html format. :)
[05:13] <n2diy> phpcurious: Load it, read the docs, and play with it?
[05:13] <wastedfluid> hey guys.  I'm having problems with standby+hibernation.  Neither work worth a damn after One successful hibernation.  on 6.06, stand by worked fine.. but on 7.04, it's not as good.  Are there any other methods / solutions / or anything for laptop users on 7.04?
[05:13] <shadeofgrey> okay folkks...  i was just told that for beryl under ubuntu its bettert o have intel integrated graphics rather than an Nvidia 8600 card or better.  does anybody here truly concur with that assessment?
[05:13] <phpcurious> craigbass1976: i don't know if you understand my situation but actually I have VMWare with Ubuntu Virtual Machine
[05:14] <lukas_> Hi, are there anyway to see compile options of a deb package ?
[05:14] <jrib> lukas_: apt-get source PACKAGE   read debian/rules
[05:14] <craigbass1976> phpcurious, then no, I don't understand.  I've never run across VMware
[05:14] <lukas_> jrib: oh, thanks you :)
[05:14] <Dr_willis> shadeofgrey,  i find that hard to belive.
[05:14] <n2diy> lukas, read the docs for dpkg.
[05:14] <phpcurious> craigbass1976: i actually wanted to get a file from an NTFS partition
[05:14] <Tom47> when is pastebin content reset/
[05:14] <Dr_willis> shadeofgrey,  beryl is very much a work in progress also. So i dont touch it.
[05:15] <phpcurious> and possibly edit it from Ubuntu VM
[05:15] <craigbass1976> phpcurious, and the ntfs is on the same drive as ubuntu?
[05:15] <Dr_willis> phpcode,  from a ntfs PARTITION on the local machine? or a remote machine thats sharing a directory?
[05:15] <phpcurious> Dr_willis: NTFS partition on the same machine yes
[05:16] <iTG`Neatchee> phpcurious: ubuntu comes with ntfs read-only native to the install.  You can add read/write capability by installing an app called ntfs-3g
[05:16] <Dr_willis> phpcurious,  thats much easier. :)
[05:16] <craigbass1976> phpcurious, if is on the same box, then you just need to mount -t ntfs /dev/??? /mnt and there you go.  THere is a package somewhere that lets you mount up ntfs in Ubuntu
[05:16] <craigbass1976> phpcurious, samba is for over a network
[05:16] <mon^rch> ntfs-config
[05:17] <phpcurious> i thought samba is for local machine also...?
[05:17] <iTG`Neatchee> phpcurious: you CAN use samba for local machine, but it is a CRAZY workaround
[05:17] <phpcurious> sorry for being noob
[05:17] <craigbass1976> phpcurious, why do you need to share it out if it's right on the same box?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> phpcurious,  the point of samba is to share data on the network. :)
[05:17] <phpcurious> ahhh
[05:17] <iTG`Neatchee> samba is actually a networking protocol, but it has write capabilities to ntfs
[05:17] <iTG`Neatchee> so you CAN use it as a workaround and read/write to NTFS filesystems with it
[05:17] <iTG`Neatchee> but it's hella bootleg :P
[05:17] <Jun> Hi. I have a nvidia gforce 2 mx 100/200 installd in my pc. My screen displays some kind of linear traces in diff application. Is there any site where I can download the driver for it. Nividia.com does not have any.
[05:18] <msl> If he is inside the ubuntu VM, I don't think he will have access to /dev/hda#, because he can only see the VM disk
[05:18] <Dr_willis> iTG`Neatchee,  i cant recall ever seeing THAT.
[05:18] <iTG`Neatchee> sorry, not protocol, but you know what i mean
[05:18] <iTG`Neatchee> Dr_willis: i ran into that option when i was trying to fix a write problem with ntfs-3g
[05:18] <iTG`Neatchee> it's really hard to get implemented though
[05:18] <abraha> I made some updates in the live cd the i'm runing now, and I want to save it?
[05:18] <craigbass1976> msl, ahh balls.  Might be true I guess
[05:18] <Dr_willis> iTG`Neatchee,  Hmm.. May be somthing in the newer releases. not mentioned in the docs ive seen
[05:19] <Dr_willis> I hate to say it - but id like to see some sort of 'samba setup wizard' for ubuntu to help out all these new users. :)
[05:19] <iTG`Neatchee> Dr_willis: it's not really designed for that sort of functionality, so it wouldn't be in any docs.
[05:19] <Dr_willis> iTG`Neatchee,  so they took the 'undocumented feature' feature that MS always uses also! :)
[05:20] <iTG`Neatchee> hahah yup :P
[05:20] <iTG`Neatchee> i never actually got it to work myself
[05:21] <K350> enviouz: u there?
[05:21] <arooni> how long is 'Installing system' supposed to take via the regular livecd?
[05:21] <K350> depends on  a few things
[05:21] <renhe> hi hi hablan espaol
[05:21] <craigbass1976> arooni, the whole process usually takes me about an hour, from the time I stick the cd in to the time it first boots up for real to Ubuntu
[05:22] <arooni> hmmm
[05:22] <arooni> its been installing for maybe 40 min
[05:22] <craigbass1976> arooni, even on a 600MHZ box with 256RAM
[05:22] <iTG`Neatchee> has anyone yet figured out why with one of the recent kernel updates, some systems have their swap partition getting a new UUID on reboots?
[05:23] <arooni> craigbass1976: problem is... the progress window got messed up and i cant see how far its gone :(
[05:23] <n2diy> arooni: is your hard drive cooking?
[05:23] <iTG`Neatchee> i had to change my fstab to use the /dev assignment for my swap, instead of its UUID or my swap partition wouldn't work
[05:23] <quantumduck> does anyone know if it's possible to non-destructively move an ext3 partition with any existing tools?
[05:23] <Talaman72> brb
[05:23] <Talaman72> and wow, his is a wack job
[05:24] <arooni> n2diy: think so.... i couldnt get the hard drive light hooked up to mobo... cd is still being read
[05:24] <arooni> so thats a good sign i think
[05:24] <n2diy> arooni: is your hard drive cooking?
[05:24] <ignignokt> *sigh*
[05:24] <craigbass1976> arooni, if your drive stops, I would assume it's safe to take the cd out and reboot.  You could be having graphics card problems.  I trie dinstalling on a dell inspiron 1100 a couple weeks ago and had to give up.
[05:24] <ignignokt> i burned two cds that worked, one at 8x and one at 24x
[05:24] <ignignokt> as soon as i tried one at 48x, the cdrecord error code 254 came back
[05:24] <n2diy> arooni: ok, can you hear it?
[05:24] <ignignokt> i'm retrying it at 8x
[05:25] <n2diy> arooni: what about the CD LED?
[05:25] <arooni> n2diy: that works.... still blinking for reads
[05:25] <arooni> i guess its probably still going
[05:25] <ComputinChuck> is there a way to set up dvdrip/transcode to encode to theora?
[05:25] <n2diy> arooni: let the install cook.
[05:26] <Pelo> can anyone connect to the gnomebaker home page ?  http://gnomebaker.sourceforge.net/v2/
[05:26] <megafauna> craigbass1976 avast is awesome thanks. I am running it now. will find out if i'm paranoid or not tomorrow morning.  ttyl:)
[05:26] <ignignokt> Pelo: it works for me
[05:27] <ignignokt> well
[05:27] <n2diy> arooni: Another good sign is when you can turn your Caps Lock LED on and off.
[05:27] <ignignokt> maybe not
[05:27] <Wonderboy_> Has anyone here successfully installed avant-window-navigator?
[05:27] <ALL4N> hey, what is the best vncviewer for linux?   I have tried the regular vncviewer but it does not send alt-tab to the other side
[05:27] <ermac0> Pelo, its good
[05:27] <Pelo> ignignokt,  getting html ?  cause all I get is a list of folders
[05:27] <ignignokt> Pelo: yeah same here
[05:27] <ignignokt> no html
[05:27] <Pelo> ermac0,  getting actulay webpage or just folders ?
[05:28] <ermac0> the contents of the v2
[05:28] <ermac0> folder
[05:28] <ermac0> bad linking index not found
[05:28] <iTG`Neatchee> yay!  it looks like i can backport pidgin, and pidgin-otr, if i edit the source install to use to libnss instead of libnss3
[05:28] <Pelo> ok so no worky for anyone else, thanks guys
[05:29] <roachclit> Hey guys how do you make a LOGIN to pop up after like 10 minutes
[05:29] <ermac0> /home/groups/g/gn/gnomebaker/htdocs/v2/wp-admin/users.php
[05:29] <ermac0> wow
[05:29] <praveen> hi
[05:29] <jazzencat> hi
[05:29] <iTG`Neatchee> hi
[05:29] <novato_br> how can I get remove full instalation beryl ?
[05:29] <Pelo> roachclit,  menu > system > admin > login window,  there is a delay in there somewhere
[05:30] <Pelo> novato_br,  use synaptic
[05:30] <oscurochu> I get this error when running ./configure for apache: config.status: error: cannot find input file: support/apxs.in
[05:30] <jazzencat> i cannot seem to get ANY livecd running on my desktop: all of them hang at usb detection point or CPU detection.  usually the boot hangs when the distro starts scanning for usbhid.
[05:30] <novato_br> but, Pelo , on synaptic have the lib relation with beryl, how can I know if I can remove it ?
[05:31] <jazzencat> I have tried Ubuntu, Knoppix, Gentoo...
[05:31] <Pelo> jazzencat,  what  video card ?
[05:31] <oscurochu> "./configure --enable-isapi --enable-cgi --enable-rewrite --enable-module=so
[05:31] <oscurochu> "
[05:31] <jazzencat> nVidia 6200TC
[05:31] <who_cares> 6200 shouldn't be a problem
[05:31] <NeoGeo64> I've been told I'm a bad person for using XMMS.
[05:31] <Pelo> jazzencat,  you won'T be able to use the live cd, you need the alternate install cd
[05:31] <who_cares> I ran Edgy with one
[05:31] <NeoGeo64> Am I a bad person for using XMMS.
[05:31] <jazzencat> MSI K8N Neo4 Mobo with AMD64 3500+ CPU
[05:31] <pragma_> xmms was hot back in the day
[05:31] <n2diy> jazzencat: check your boot opitons, and play with them.
[05:32] <jazzencat> xmms is still good.
[05:32] <Pelo> novato_br, you can see the dependencies in the right click menu  under properties,  make notes and remove then to
[05:32] <roachclit> hey Pelo, I know how to do that, I need one to automatically pop up, after I walk away from my computer, to ask for a LOGIN
[05:32] <kudo> i need some help about ubuntu
[05:32] <jazzencat> like nodetect, noapci?
[05:32] <novato_br> cool
[05:32] <kudo> who is can hekp me
[05:32] <novato_br> thx, Pelo
[05:32] <n2diy> who_cares: Entwhistle?
[05:32] <jazzencat> then it boots, and X won't start
[05:32] <Pelo> NeoGeo64,  xmms users donT' deserve an answer
[05:33] <jazzencat> what's wrong with xmms?
[05:33] <Pelo> kudo,  ask a question and patitently wait for the answer
[05:33] <Tom47> !ask > kudo
[05:33] <Pelo> jazzencat,  just being funny
[05:33] <irotas> can anyone suggest a simple utility to convert AVI to MPEG ?
[05:33] <jazzencat> beats most of the media players for windows... :P
[05:33] <jazzencat> i know.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> jazzencat,  its very old.. and has some bugs that proberly will never get fixxed. :(  I like it also. heh
[05:33] <Pelo> irotas, avidumux probably
[05:33] <jazzencat> yeah.
[05:33] <who_cares> entwhistle?
[05:33] <Pelo> irotas, avidemux
[05:33] <Dr_willis> jazzencat,  been trying out others.
[05:33] <billthefish> Alright, i've got a strange question.. Why is it that my mouse cursor dissapears after restarting X?
[05:34] <irotas> Pelo: thanks, i'll try it
[05:34] <abraha> made some updates in the live cd the I'm running now, and I want to save it, how?
[05:34] <colbert> I just installed Feisty, and Terminal doesn't work, can someone help
[05:34] <colbert> it wont' start
[05:34] <jazzencat> my main issue usually is the ammount of bloat that others tend to install on the computer..
[05:34] <Pelo> abraha, you can'T
[05:34] <Dr_willis> abraha,  as far as i know. Not doable.
[05:34] <Dr_willis> abraha,  seen SOME disrots with live cd's that have that feature
[05:34] <Dr_willis> Not ubuntu's however
[05:34] <iTG`Neatchee> colbert: can you be more specific?  How are you trying to start it?  Any error messages?
[05:34] <Pelo> colbert,  alt-f2   xterm  see if that works for you
[05:34] <roachclit> Is there a way I can walk away from my computer, and then after like 10 minutes it prompts for a LOGIN after sitting IDLE?
[05:34] <abraha> tk
[05:34] <ermac0> term doesn't work?
[05:34] <abraha> thanks
[05:35] <colbert> i'm clicking on the launcher, using ALT+F2 and typing gnome-terminal, nothing
[05:35] <Pelo> roachclit,  put a password on your screen saver
[05:35] <jazzencat> been trying to find some alternatives to mp3, but not many players out there support it.
[05:35] <colbert> i just clicked on the launcher, i see Starting Terminal and a busy cursor but it goes away now and nothing happens
[05:35] <dmb> does doing to advance install bring the same exact desktop as the normal livecd install?
[05:35] <n2diy> roachclit: sounds like a kiosk?
[05:35] <dmb> the same exact everything?
[05:35] <Pelo> colbert, try with xterm , it is a different terminal
[05:36] <tritium> dmb: yes
[05:36] <jazzencat> what is the command to get ubuntu's live cd to give you verbose boot messages?
[05:36] <billthefish> anyone experience the mouse cursor dissapearing? Its not the whole mouse not working.. because moving around the mouse i see things highlight and stuff.. but just no cursor after loging out
[05:36] <Pelo> dmb,  I think the advance install just lets you partition manualy , the rest is the same
[05:36] <dmb> oh
[05:36] <Pelo> billthefish, check in the forum
[05:37] <billthefish> will do
[05:37] <dmb> does the advance installer run debootstrap and then install the ubuntu metapackage?
[05:37] <jessid> hello to everybody. How can i make two PCs running Ubuntu 7.04 to share files? I already have them connected through a cable...is it possible to configure them in a gui environmet? Thanks!!!
[05:37] <colbert> Pelo: ok i typed gnome-terminal in xterm, i see a big error, how do i copy in xterm (copy the text)
[05:37] <ether> hello
[05:37] <iTG`Neatchee> If I want to start a backport request and confirm a working backport that i just made, do I go to "register a new project" on launchpad?
[05:37] <Pelo> colbert,  I think you are missing the point, xterm is a terminal , gnome-terminal is another,  crtl+c wil probably copy
[05:37] <iTG`Neatchee> I don't want to do it wrong my first time :P
[05:38] <n2diy> jessid: how are the connected? NIC cards? Crossover cable, router?
[05:38] <colbert> Pelo: no i understand, but i would really like to be able to use gnome-terminal, I want to fix it.. and ctrl+c doesn't work
[05:38] <illusions> hey, is there any news on a directory service like nds or active directory that is worth anything in linux? i realize that ldap is there but its not as good as nds
[05:38] <Dr_willis> jessid,  easy way to transfer files.. is using ssh, or sshfs, or nfs,
[05:38] <jessid> n2diy crossover cables
[05:39] <Pelo> colbert,  I remember someone else with that problem  ( donT' know the fix) try resitnatlling gnome-terminal from synaptic,  or check in the forum
[05:39] <ether> would there be any major problem with installing ubuntu on a hard drive of one computer, taking that hard drive out, and sticking it in another computer?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> most of the filemanagers can do remote/ssh connections access/coping also.
[05:39] <jessid> Dr_willis nautilus allows me to do that?
[05:39] <n2diy> jessid: can the two(?) boxes ping each other?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> ether,  i had some issues in the PAST with that.. not sure if its much of an issue now a days
[05:39] <Pelo> ether,  if they are the same hardware it will work, if not ... your guess is as good as mine
[05:39] <Dr_willis> jessid,  i belive it can. but i rarely use nautilus
[05:40] <ether> hmm.. thanks that's why I'm hesitant to try it
[05:40] <ether> the other computer has no cd drive
[05:40] <Pelo> ether, why not just move the cd drive ...
[05:40] <ether> tried that, it didn't work
[05:40] <ether> the cd drive wouldn't cooperate with the other computer
[05:40] <Pelo> !install | ether
[05:40] <ubotu> ether: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[05:41] <Dr_willis> ether,  sounds like a bad ide port, or cable. :)
[05:41] <jessid> n2diy: yes they ping each other but in nautilus I cant see the other one...I even tryed samba with a windows machine, but it asks for a password and a user....I dont know what to write there because i have tryed with my own user and pass, but nothing
[05:42] <Maxwell_> Hey
[05:42] <Dr_willis> jessid,  for samba, you must set up the linxu users with a samba password. 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'
[05:42] <yurimxpxman> could someone point me in the right direction to spoofing an IP address with netcat?
[05:42] <HBBM> Hi guys. I'm having problems to install my PCTEL HSP56 micromodem on my ubuntu 7.04, please gimme a hand.
[05:42] <colbert> Pelo: http://www.bobgill.net/error.jpg
[05:42] <n2diy> jessid: Well, you can't access the other box, without it's owner's permission!
[05:42] <Maxwell_> im having a bit of a problem installing ubuntu on my laptop
[05:43] <jessid> Dr_willis aahh very interesting... I will do that immediatly
[05:43] <colbert> Pelo: i changed my theme but still the same thing
[05:43] <yurimxpxman> Pelo: this is for a legitimate purpose
[05:43] <Pelo> Maxwell_, can hyou be more specific ?
[05:43] <Pelo> yurimxpxman,  I was making a joke
[05:43] <Maxwell_> gimme a sec while i type
[05:43] <vecina> Does linux have a subtitling program? I... aquired a movie in japanese, but it'd be cool to have some subs. Most subtitling programs are windows tho
[05:43] <Dr_willis> jessid,  the samba-doc package has several large books in it on samba ussage. :)
[05:43] <Pelo> colbert,  look up the first line of the error msg in the forum
[05:44] <oscurochu> I need help installing apache. When I run ./configure, I get this, "config.status: error: cannot find input file: support/apxs.in"
[05:44] <Flannel> oscurochu: Install apache from the repository.
[05:44] <Pelo> vecina, you just need the subtitle file and you can have the subs displayed in any player
[05:44] <oscurochu> Flannel, it doesn't work for me.
[05:45] <Flannel> oscurochu: If you're installing vanilla apache, you should ask questions in #apache
[05:45] <jessid> !nfs
[05:45] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[05:45] <oscurochu> Flannel: thanks
[05:45] <novato_br> !rm
[05:45] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:45] <HBBM> Hi guys. I'm having problems to install my PCTEL HSP56 micromodem on my ubuntu 7.04, please gimme a hand.
[05:45] <armyriad> Are there any applications like Dreamweaver for Ubuntu?
[05:45] <Pelo> HBBM,  try looking up the model in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.com
[05:46] <Maxwell_> basically when i boot the cd i have, and select start or install it shows the loading screen, then goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor and does no more. I've checked the CD for errors but it says none were found. Im using an IBM T22 laptop. Any Ideas on whats going wrong?
[05:46] <Pelo> armyriad,  http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[05:46] <jessid> Dr_willis, n2diy: thanks a lot!!!! now that i know i have to set pass and user, i will read about nfs...I prefer using linux than win...again: thanks a lot!!!!
[05:46] <Tom47> !dreameaver
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dreameaver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <blanky> !googleearth
[05:46] <ubotu> Google Earth is now available, for free (only as in price), for Linux, too. To download it see http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html - A package for Ubuntu is available in the !Medibuntu repository
[05:46] <Tom47> !dreamweaver
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dreamweaver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <blanky> !medibuntu
[05:47] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[05:47] <n2diy> jessid: GL
[05:47] <Pelo> Maxwell_,  did you try the alternate install cd ? is it text based , might be easier
[05:47] <Cusoon959> !bmpx
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bmpx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <Cusoon959> !bmp
[05:47] <Cusoon959> !bmp
[05:47] <Flannel> !botabuse
[05:47] <Dr_willis> i just installed bmpx and bmp :) moments ago
[05:47] <Cusoon959> oh sorry
[05:47] <Cusoon959> lol
[05:47] <Maxwell_> No I havn't I've been trying to avoid downloading another 200+mb file :P
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:48] <Cusoon959> bmpx is cool but sorta bloated
[05:48] <Cusoon959> I liked bmp
[05:48] <Pelo> !hardware | maxkelley  check in there to see if there is a known problem iwth your hardware and try the forum to
[05:48] <ubotu> maxkelley  check in there to see if there is a known problem iwth your hardware and try the forum to: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:48] <SAM_theman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27096/
[05:49] <BTF_AFK> alright, i'm sure i'll be laughed at about this.. but i can't seem to edit the xorg.conf, i'm sure i just used the wrong command.. what is the correct? i used "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[05:49] <ari-free> hmm what is hot babe in medibuntu
[05:49] <Pelo> SAM_theman, was that meant for anyone in particular ?
[05:49] <HBBM> Pelo, I recognized my device with scanModem. But I want to know whether anybody work to improve the modem installation on Ubuntu.
[05:49] <Pelo> HBBM,  I can'T realy help with that , sorry
[05:49] <atrus> trying to play a dvd with totem or xine. the sound effects all come through fine but the speech is muted. how can i get the sound to play properly?
[05:50] <HBBM> Pelo, cause is very dificult to install it.
[05:50] <metbsd> i'm downloading kubuntu dvd
[05:50] <Frogzoo> !modem
[05:50] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[05:50] <Pelo> HBBM,  things are getting better from release to release,  but I can'T make any promises for your hardware
[05:50] <BTF_AFK> using kubuntu, i guess gedit doesn't exist.. what am i to use?
[05:50] <Dr_willis> install gedit if you want
[05:50] <Pelo> BTF_AFK, kate
[05:51] <BTF_AFK> thx
[05:51] <Dr_willis> or kedit, kate,  vi, vim, nano, pico, fte, mcedit
[05:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:51] <Dr_willis> was that 12?
[05:51] <Pelo> show off
[05:51] <Dr_willis> I sort of like fte. :)
[05:51] <john> I need help uninstalling KDE.
[05:52] <SAM_theman> no
[05:52] <Dr_willis> john why are you bothering to do this?
[05:52] <iTG`Neatchee> I apologize ahead of time for being a noob, but I'm new to LaunchPad.  Anyway, I'm just now starting to help develop backports for Ubuntu, and I'd like to open a request (and then confirm my own request hehe) for a backport of pidgin to Feisty.  Do I need to "register a new project"? I don't want to do it wrong, and "register a new project" sounds to me like something a developer of the software would do...which I am not -_-
[05:52] <SAM_theman> only people that can help
[05:52] <john> what.
[05:52] <SAM_theman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27096/
[05:52] <Pelo> SAM_theman,  how about your give us the short version
[05:53] <alakran> hello, is there a key combination to activate the screen lock? or how can i make such a macro?
[05:53] <n2diy> ! requests |iTG`Neatchee:
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about requests - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <n2diy> ! requests |i TG`Neatchee:
[05:53] <Pelo> alakran,  explain screen lock
[05:53] <konam> hi
[05:53] <K`zan> Anyone around who might be able to help me get a wireless adapter working WPA PSK?  I found a link that perports to be able to do it ( http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html ) but nothing I can find looks like that and nothing seems to know anything about WPA.  Even installed gnome to see if that helped :-(.  TIA!
[05:53] <john> I need help uninstalling KDE because I want to stick with Gnome. I tried serveral methods but it's still in the sessions list when I login.
[05:53] <n2diy> ! features | iTG`Neatchee:
[05:53] <colbert> What are some terminal emulators I could install ?
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about features - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <Dr_willis> i though there was some feature where ya could put the mouse in the upper left corner (or one corner) and the screen would blank/lock
[05:54] <alakran> i want to activate screen lock by key combo rather than clicking on upper right on the shutdown button and choosing screen lock
[05:54] <iTG`Neatchee> john: are you trying to replace KDE with something else, like gnome, or xfce?
[05:54] <windsamurai> does anyone know why i keep getting Warning: Unable to open /dev/hda read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/hda
[05:54] <windsamurai> has been opened read-only. and Error: Unable to open /dev/hda - unrecognised disk label. when attempting to use parted?
[05:54] <john> I already have Gnome. I want to remove KDE.
[05:54] <iTG`Neatchee> n2diy: oh the failure :P
[05:54] <Dr_willis> colbert,  You mean 'serial' terminal emulators like minicom? or xterm type like xterm, rxvt, powershell, eterm ?
[05:54] <Pelo> john from the login screen you can select which  desktop manager you want to use, play around with the options on there
[05:54] <alakran> (in winxp it would be windowskey+L)
[05:54] <iTG`Neatchee> john: you should just be able to do it through synaptic then, i think
[05:54] <n2diy> ! bugs | iTG`Neatchee:
[05:54] <ubotu> iTG`Neatchee:: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:54] <colbert> Dr_willis: emulators like gnome-terminal
[05:55] <Dr_willis> colbert,  fire up the package manager and search for terminal :) theres proberly a dozen total. 'twin' is a amuseing one to try out.
[05:55] <Tom47> alakran try ctl alt L
[05:55] <Pelo> john , in synaptic  search for kde and remove the packages installed and the related stuff
[05:55] <colbert> Dr_willis: ok
[05:55] <john> i tried
[05:55] <n2diy> iTG`Neatchee: persistence. :)
[05:55] <Dr_willis> i find kde having too many handy apps to not have it installed.
[05:55] <john> and it's still in the sessions thing
[05:55] <Dr_willis> if you just want it removed form the sessions.. look for the kde.desktop file  and remove it.
[05:55] <alakran> tom47: thank you so much!! it was so obvious :)
[05:56] <Tom47> alakran if you dont like that you can use Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts to change
[05:56] <metbsd> yes kde is nice
[05:56] <Dr_willis> it will still be installed.. just not shown :) big deal
[05:56] <metbsd> but what's good about gnome
[05:56] <HBBM> Pelo, Many errors can be found to install modems on newers kernel realeases. I'm afraid the future ubuntu releases can't support the modem utily. What do you think about it?
[05:56] <windsamurai> i'm having problems using parted can anyone help?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> metbsd,  my wife has easier time with gnome.
[05:56] <alakran> tom47: nah its perfect tytyyt
[05:56] <Pelo> HBBM, it's realy not my area of expertise , sorry
[05:56] <iTG`Neatchee> n2diy: i was confident you'd find it sooner or later :P
[05:56] <K`zan> Anyone?  I'm tired of having to run wincrap just to get the wireless :-(
[05:57] <Pelo> !wifi | k
[05:57] <ubotu> k: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:57] <HBBM> Pelo, ok. Thanks.
[05:57] <n2diy> iTG`Neatchee: Hope it helps! :)
[05:57] <Pelo> later folks
[05:57] <john> i don't see kde.desktop in synaptic
[05:57] <maxkelley> hallo welt?
[05:58] <K`zan> ubotu: Been through that and I am obviously missing something or something :-(, it ain't working no matter what I do :-(
[05:58] <topshotta> nero vision for ubuntu?
[05:58] <Dr_willis> john its not a PACKAGE.. 'gdm' reads these .desktop files to determine what 'session' entries for it to show.
[05:58] <Flannel> topshotta: just use a native burning program.
[05:58] <john> oh
[05:58] <john> but what do i delete in it then?
[05:58] <john> what files?
[05:59] <metbsd> but in general speaking, what's better about gnome than kde
[05:59] <topshotta> Flannel: I want to turn AVI into dvd's though
[05:59] <Flannel> topshotta: there are linux programs to do that.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> john use the locate command perhaps to find it.    of course this is a lot of bother to just remove a entry from the gdm session menu.
[05:59] <dawn`chorus> metbsd, better is a relative term.  /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:59] <topshotta> Flannel: Any good ones?
[05:59] <Flannel> john: you should remvoe the packages, not just the files.  And remember to do it all with --purge (or "complete removal" in synaptic)
[05:59] <slavik> metbsd: I like gnome, that's why it's better :P
[05:59] <metbsd> oh ok
[05:59] <Flannel> topshotta: I don't know what they are, but I do know that they exist.
[06:00] <metbsd> is there ktorrent equivalent in gnome
[06:00] <slavik> metbsd: if you like kde, then that is better :)
[06:00] <slavik> metbsd: I use azureus
[06:00] <eyemean> hi, if im running windows xp as a virtual machin on parallels should i still install antivirus and firewall? cheers
[06:00] <john> i don' see 'complete removal
[06:00] <praveen> heh iam havin audio problems in festy fawn
[06:00] <topshotta> topshotta: test
[06:00] <metbsd> yes i like kde, and kde4 is going to kick ass
[06:00] <slavik> eyemean: there is parallels for Linux?
[06:01] <Flannel> john: in synaptic?  You flag them for "complete removal" as opposed to just "removal"
[06:01] <slavik> metbsd: what's the eta on kde4?
[06:01] <iMayKnow> eyemean, if you're running windows on anything with access to the internet, you should install and antivirus and firewall
[06:01] <eyemean> yes slavik
[06:01] <windsamurai> i'm using parted and i keep getting Error: Unable to open /dev/hda - unrecognised disk label. Anyone know why this is happening?
[06:01] <iMayKnow> no ifs, ands or buts
[06:01] <HBBM> Is there anybody have experience to install the arcaic pctel micromodem on Ubuntu? Anybody got it?
[06:01] <metbsd> slavik, they have some new features that 3.5 don't have
[06:01] <eyemean> cheers imayknow
[06:01] <blanky> !visualboyadvance
[06:01] <blanky> !visualboyadvanced
[06:02] <blanky> guess not haha
[06:02] <Dr_willis> !find visualboy
[06:02] <ubotu> Found: visualboyadvance
[06:02] <Dr_willis> it exists.. happy? :)
[06:02] <eyemean> would u like link slavik?
[06:02] <slavik> eyemean: nah, I'll look it up later
[06:02] <blanky> !visualboyadvance
[06:02] <john> i dont know how to flag it
[06:02] <slavik> metbsd: so, what is eta on kde4?
[06:02] <blanky> Dr_willis: what did that do haha
[06:02] <eyemean> ok kool, but are you using ubuntu 7.04?
[06:02] <Flannel> john: right click on the little box thing, and choose c.r.
[06:03] <metbsd> slavik, oct 07
[06:03] <mike> the best burner k3b?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> blanky,  used the 'search' feature of the bot
[06:03] <BTF_AFK> alright, another stupid question.. my KDE clock is 24 hour format.. how to i change it to 12?
[06:03] <slavik> hmm, we'll see ... and what features does it have that I would want?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> !find emulator
[06:03] <ubotu> Found: gnome-terminal, xfce4-terminal, xterm, aterm, aterm-ml (and 25 others)
[06:03] <HBBM> Is there anybody have experience to install the arcaic pctel micromodem on Ubuntu 7.04? Anybody got it?
[06:03] <metbsd> k3b is is for kde
[06:03] <Dr_willis> BTF_AFK,  right click on the clock,. change the time format.
[06:03] <mike> I am in Ubuntu
[06:03] <john> YEah well that option's not available for me. only one i can click on is mark for installation
[06:03] <Dr_willis> BTF_AFK,  the change wont take effect till ya log out/back in. (yes its silly)
[06:04] <metbsd> i wonder what kubuntu dvd has in 4.7 G
[06:04] <slavik> mike: there is also gnomebaker
[06:04] <slavik> mike: you can still use k3b ...
[06:04] <windsamurai> Can someone plz help me? I am trying to use parted to try and get rid of a partition except it keeps saying Error: Unable to open /dev/hda - unrecognised disk label. Does anyone know whats wrong?
[06:04] <mike> slavik: Work ok?
[06:04] <slavik> mike: why shouldn't it?
[06:04] <john> is there another way to remove it?
[06:04] <slavik> mike: they all use cdrecord anyway
[06:04] <mike> ok
[06:05] <Dr_willis> windsamurai,  thisis from a live cd?
[06:05] <windsamurai> nope
[06:05] <windsamurai> its fully installed on my comp
[06:05] <Flannel> john: on which package?  There's more than one that make up kde.  the .desktop file is in either kdebase-data or ksmserver, completely remove both of those, and you should have kde no longer in sessions.
[06:05] <Dr_willis> windsamurai,  its best to use gparted from a livecd. You dont want to be resizing mounted filesystems. could try running it with 'sudo' or 'gksu' also
[06:06] <windsamurai> i have one ntfs partition one ext2 for ubuntu and another ext2 one that i was going to use as a shared except i never did
[06:06] <john> both won't let me uninstall
[06:06] <windsamurai> k ill try that
[06:06] <Flannel> john: Are they installed?
[06:06] <john> i think it's already uninstalled.. but then i see it in the seessions manager thing
[06:07] <Dr_willis> its possible the --purge option was needed.
[06:08] <Flannel> john: at a terminal, (close synaptic), `sudo apt-get remove --purge kdebase-data ksmserver`  I'm assuming the file is kde.desktop, but I don't know for sure.
[06:08] <Flannel> john: if you could give me an exact filename, we can figure out what package it came from
[06:08] <Dr_willis> Flannel,  /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop
[06:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:09] <Dr_willis> I like editing/tweaking my Sessions. Its fun
[06:09] <john> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:09] <john> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:09] <john> john@john-desktop:~$
[06:09] <Flannel> that's ksmserver
[06:09] <Flannel> john: you need to close synaptic
[06:10] <john> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[06:10] <john> Abort.
[06:10] <john> john@john-desktop:~$ y
[06:10] <john> bash: y: command not found
[06:10] <topshotta> Irc protocol for firefox. anyone know about that?
[06:10] <john> john@john-desktop:~$
[06:10] <eyemean> by every1
[06:11] <Flannel> topshotta: you mean setting the handler?  It's the same as in FF anywhere else.  Don't know specifics though.
[06:11] <eyemean> love the great help here
[06:15] (Dr_willis/#ubuntu) ermac0,  you may want to read up on samba with the docs in the 'samba-doc' package. You may have to do some manual editing of the samba config file to get it set how ya want it.
[06:15] (slavik/#ubuntu) bvod: behold the superior drm :D (I honestly don't know how to fix your problem)
[06:15] (reed026/#ubuntu) would I install xubuntu in the GUI mode and still be able to run it as an apache mysql php server
[06:15] (bvod/#ubuntu) alright, ill see what i can do thanks
[06:16] (Dr_willis/#ubuntu) reed026,  just dont start the X/gdm stuff. :) and there ya go..
[06:16] (slavik/#ubuntu) NickGarvey: looks like windows has made the switch to ubuntu for me :)
[06:16] <ermac0> Dr_willis, thanx, I thought as much, 'if there is a will , there is a way'
[06:16] <Dr_willis> reed026,  or ya can always run the services just in the background.
[06:16] <reed026> ok :)
[06:16] <Dr_willis> ermac0,  ive been playing with samba, and smbfs (samba FUSE stuff) all week.
[06:16] <Talaman72> question, how do i command line mount using smbmnt if i want to mount a printer?>
[06:16] <GeeTux> hi all
[06:17] <GeeTux> question, how install vmware i have a error
[06:17] <slavik> Talaman72: there is a way to do it through printer set up :)
[06:17] <sir_binary> Hey,I need some help
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Talaman72,  i think you would use the cups configuration/tools for that.
[06:17] <slavik> GeeTux: is it when compiling the network modules?
[06:17] <sir_binary> the windows are too small all of a sudden
[06:17] <Talaman72> yeah, that one isn't working
[06:17] <harisamin> Flannel: hey are u there? remember me?
[06:17] <GeeTux> slavik yes
[06:17] <sir_binary> I'm using ubuntu with the xfce desktop
[06:18] <slavik> GeeTux: google for a perl patch script :)
[06:18] <sir_binary> it was fine earlier today but I must have done something
[06:18] <slavik> sir_binary: I suggest also joining #xubuntu, they use xfce :)
[06:18] <sir_binary> ok I'll try there
[06:18] <ermac0> Dr_willis, as FUSE, for music , video, streaming, mnt's everything i read
[06:18] <GeeTux> slavik: wait
[06:18] <harisamin> hey guys....i had ubuntu running on this G4 powerpc about a week ago....somethign went wrong in trying to update to feisty so i had to reinstall ubunt again
[06:19] <NickGarvey> harisamin: ok
[06:19] <NickGarvey> and?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> !fuse
[06:19] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[06:19] <harisamin> well i could never get it to reinstall ....tried several versions...breezy...dapper...edgy and didnt work....even tried the minimal installation...i keep getting this debootstrap error
[06:19] <slavik> GeeTux: still waiting
[06:19] <harisamin> i tried different hard drives too
[06:19] <harisamin> i'm sure its not the harddrive
[06:19] <ermac0> ubotu, i guess you would have to put your coding cap on, and figure the bugs out
[06:20] <bvod> libdvdread3 folder does not exist
[06:20] <GeeTux> Using compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override.
[06:20] <GeeTux> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[06:20] <GeeTux> slavik:
[06:20] <Ausicaemia> I have a problem, the entries that I put in the Startup Programs part of System>Preferences>Sessions get erased when I reboot.
[06:20] <harisamin> i think it might be my cd rom ....for some reason maybe trying to update to fgesity might have caused some error....i;'ve tried several linux ppc distros on this G4 and they come up with some error....and i've tried those same CDs on another G4 powerpc...and they work
[06:20] <slavik> GeeTux: first you run install, then the script, then the configure stuff
[06:20] <harisamin> so my conclusion is that there is something wrong with my cdrom dirve
[06:20] <slavik> GeeTux: you also need the headers and build-essential :)
[06:21] <harisamin> i dotn have a disk drive
[06:21] <Ausicaemia> I removed the Beagle Desktop client, and added Pidgin to startup, and when I rebooted Beagle started up and no Pidgin.
[06:21] <ermac0> harisamin, network boot
[06:21] <Ausicaemia> and then when I checked, none of my changes stayed in the startup thing
[06:21] <harisamin> is there a way for me to install ubuntu wihtout a disk drive  or cdrom drive....i do have a usb flashcard...
[06:21] <GeeTux> slavik: i am installed build-essential and kernel
[06:21] <Ausicaemia> So does anybody know what is wrong?
[06:21] <harisamin> ermac0: but dont u need to download a cd of some sort to do that
[06:21] <slavik> GeeTux: google for the patch
[06:21] <ermac0> course
[06:21] <GeeTux> ok
[06:22] <Jordan_U> harisamin, Yes, you can install from a flashcard if your computer supports booting from it
[06:22] <harisamin> ermac0: thats the probelm here
[06:22] <slavik> GeeTux: I have it on my work system, but not here
[06:22] <harisamin> Jordan_U: i think i can but i cant find a good guide....looked at one that some ppl suggested...i have 2 hard drives by the way...lon running os X and th other WAS running ubuntu
[06:22] <gladiewr> hi guys - having some usb  networking issues - any help please?
[06:22] <ermac0> you have w2k3 R2 can install any OS from nt boot
[06:23] <harisamin> Jordan_U: i think i can get it to boot from the flashdrive
[06:23] <ermac0> course you need w2k3 r2
[06:23] <harisamin> Jordan_U: but i need help...and i only have a 512mb flashdrive
[06:23] <bvod> could have gstreamer codec installed be my problem
[06:23] <iTG`Neatchee> Why is it that i'm trying to backport pidgin-otr with prevu, and it tells me that it can't find pidgin-dev even though I just downloaded, backported, and installed pidgin-dev?
[06:23] <Jordan_U> harisamin, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick Is this a PPC mac?
[06:23] <Ausicaemia> So does anybody know what that is happening?
[06:23] <harisamin> Jordan_U: yes
[06:23] <Ausicaemia> Why don't my startup entries stay?
[06:24] <Jordan_U> harisamin, Then that guide won't work...
[06:24] <GeeTux> slavik: ubuntu then kernel 2.6
[06:24] <harisamin> Jordan_U: ok....any other ideas?
[06:24] <GeeTux> ok yes install the patch
[06:24] <Paddy_EIRE> Ausicaemia, I always found that to be annoying
[06:24] <Ausicaemia> Paddy_EIRE, Is there a way to fix it?
[06:24] <Ausicaemia> Or did you at least find a workaround or something?
[06:24] <Paddy_EIRE> Ausicaemia, you can have all the things you want to start running already then save session
[06:24] <harisamin> Jordan_U: i do have a G3 powerbook running xubuntu dapper....is there anything i can do form that?
[06:25] <slavik> GeeTux: ???
[06:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Ausicaemia, add the entries aswell to make doubly sure
[06:25] <ermac0> Ausicaemia, it could be that you need to edit the source file it self , not a linked file.
[06:25] <Vignale> hey guys...how do i get my ubuntu to play mp3's?
[06:25] <Ausicaemia> What is the file called/where is it located?
[06:25] <Ausicaemia> Do you know?
[06:25] <ermac0> Ausicaemia, just like changing your MOTD
[06:25] <harisamin> Jordan_U: are u there?
[06:25] <Jordan_U> harisamin, You could install from it by putting the one you want to install to in target disk mode, you would need to change some things manually to get it to work though most likely
[06:26] <Vignale> can someone help me pls??
[06:26] <dawn`chorus> Vignale, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[06:26] <nix> question!
[06:26] <harisamin> Jordan_U: what is target disk mode and how do i do that on a powerpc
[06:26] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask | Vignale
[06:26] <ubotu> Vignale: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:26] <ermac0> Ausicaemia, no i haven't had to start that project , :) auto start on boot right,  cant GDM already do that for you
[06:26] <mike> How do I stop beryl without logging out?
[06:26] <Tom47> !restrictedformats > vignale
[06:27] <Paddy_EIRE> mike, do you have beryl-manager
[06:27] <Ausicaemia> ermac0, Yeah, I'm adding stuff to the Startup Programs part of the session manager
[06:27] <slavik> mike: choose metacity as the window decoration
[06:27] <Jordan_U> harisamin, Boot the Mac you want to install to while holding down "T" then you can connect it to your other mac as if it were a Firewire Drive
[06:27] <slavik> decorator*
[06:27] <Ausicaemia> ermac0, But when I reboot the ones I removed are back and the ones I added don't stay.
[06:27] <mike> Paddy_EIRE: yes
[06:27] <Vignale> How do i get my mp3's playing on rhythmbox?
[06:27] <ermac0> mike, beryl should allow you to go to metacity if beryl doesn't load by default
[06:27] <harisamin> Jordan_U: do i need a firewire cable ...i dotn have one...can i use an ethernet cable
[06:27] <Paddy_EIRE> mike, then select metacity as your window manager
[06:28] <Jordan_U> harisamin, No, you need Firewire :(
[06:28] <harisamin> Jordan_U: dammit
[06:28] <Jordan_U> harisamin, Not even USB will work
[06:28] <Dr_willis> Jordan_U,  thats a neat trick. ive never heard of befor. :)
[06:28] <Paddy_EIRE> mike, the jewel icon on your sys tray
[06:28] <gladiewr> hi guys - having some usb networking issues - any help please?
[06:28] <harisamin> Jordan_U: u think i cna try replacing the cd rom drive...i do have others
[06:29] <mike> Paddy_EIRE: yes it is ,,Beryl is working fine,I was just wondering how to stop it
[06:29] <slavik> !ask
[06:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:29] <Dr_willis> usb-networking.... Hmm.. clarify that for a start
[06:29] <Jordan_U> harisamin, That is probably easiest, does the CD rom drive work at all?
[06:29] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Hi, for some reason the Volume Up/Down keys on my computer only control my Front Speakers, I want it to control the PCM (I have a surround sound system)
[06:30] <gladiewr> dr_willis has an ali host to host link
[06:30] <bobdraken> welp im back
[06:30] <bobdraken> anyone on?
[06:30] <Jordan_U> Biscuitian_Warhe, What channels it controls can be set in System -> Preferences -> Sound
[06:30] <bobdraken> im pissed i tried the alter cd
[06:30] <pixelation> Xarchiver won't extract...
[06:30] <pixelation> I did tons of googling.
[06:30] <pynoob> Hey... Is the Breezy repo no longer available?
[06:30] <bobdraken> and that didnt work either.. so im stuck on fedora and well
[06:30] <pixelation> Nothing on my problem.
[06:30] <crimsun> pynoob: Breezy was EOL'd some months ago.
[06:30] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Jordan_U: oh snap, thanks.
[06:30] <bobdraken> how do i say this nicely
[06:30] <bobdraken> it sucks
[06:31] <pynoob> :(
[06:31] <slavik> Jordan_U: that is new
[06:31] <Jordan_U> Biscuitian_Warhe, np :)
[06:31] <pixelation> Can anyone help me with Xarchiver?
[06:31] <bobdraken> let me ask everyone a question... if you couldnt use ubuntu.. what distro would you use
[06:31] <Ausicaemia> So does anybody know why my startup entries get reset on reboot?
[06:31] <Dr_willis> gladiewr,  you got a PC->USB<-PC kind of cable?
[06:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Ausicaemia, did you try what I said
[06:31] <slavik> Biscuitian_Warhe: thanks for asking that question, needed to know that myself ^^
[06:31] <Jordan_U> slavik, Not really, I think I even remember it being in Dapper
[06:31] <dawn`chorus> Vignale, understand?
[06:31] <ermac0> Ausicaemia, the gdm config you want to edit would be your login username, not root
[06:31] <Ausicaemia> I'd prefer to actually define the startup programs, rather than save a session.
[06:31] <Biscuitian_Warhe> slavik: Haha yeah, I dunno why it picked only 2 of the speakers, oh well :P
[06:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> It works now
[06:32] <Ausicaemia> Yeah, thats what I'm editing it as.
[06:32] <slavik> bobdraken: Fedora prolly
[06:32] <gladiewr> dr_willis -> yea i do its an ali m6532
[06:32] <ermac0> hmm interesting
[06:32] <Ausicaemia> ermac0, System>Preferences>Session>Startup Programs, adding stuff in there
[06:32] <Biscuitian_Warhe> bobdraken: I'd use Arch, it's sleek and fast
[06:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Ausicaemia, it still ultimately the exact same thing
[06:32] <Ausicaemia> ermac0, Reboot, stuff I added isn't there, stuff I removed is gone.
[06:32] <ermac0> Ausicaemia, i dunno dude, im looking as well
[06:32] <Ausicaemia> *back
[06:32] <bobdraken> salvik im on fedora now.. i guess i just dont like it
[06:32] <Dr_willis> gladiewr,  have ya googled to see if that thing is supported at all?  Those things are a bit rare. :) ones ive seen are just fancy serial cables.
[06:32] <bobdraken> i dono
[06:33] <bobdraken> i cant get ubuntu to install
[06:33] <bobdraken> :  (
[06:33] <dawn`chorus> hmm ... who should I report this broken link on the help.ubuntu.com site?  broken link -> http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/
[06:33] <bvod> got it working
[06:33] <Biscuitian_Warhe> bobdraken: which install method/what error does it give?
[06:33] <Flannel> dawn`chorus: What page is that link on?
[06:33] <Ausicaemia> dawn`chorus, That link isn't broken.
[06:33] <bvod> had to manuelly resinstall the file
[06:33] <Jordan_U> dawn`chorus, Works for me
[06:33] <Ausicaemia> I'm viewing it right now
[06:33] <Paddy_EIRE> Ausicaemia, but hey, must be a bug with certain installs....unless you want to get into the guts of it and fix it file a bug on launchpad I have
[06:34] <dawn`chorus> OK.  I'm getting "You do not have permission to access this document."
[06:34] <gladiewr> dr_willis, its supported with the cdc_subset module. i have it recognized as usb0 and its configured but it isnt actually talking to the rest of the network (the other pc has bridging running)
[06:34] <geeksauce> hey has anyone had any success with pidgin, which has replaced gaim
[06:34] <dawn`chorus> Flannel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[06:34] <Ausicaemia> geeksauce: Running it right now.
[06:34] <ermac0> just use psi
[06:34] <ermac0> geeksauce, psi
[06:34] <Biscuitian_Warhe> geeksauce: Pidgin is much cooler, though it's really not much different
[06:34] <ermac0> Biscuitian_Warhe, true
[06:35] <tomd123> geeksauce, im using it now
[06:35] <bobdraken> hey
[06:35] <geeksauce> Ausicaemia, did you have to compile sourcecode or do the fedora binaries work?
[06:35] <bobdraken> how can i install vlc in fedora
[06:35] <bobdraken> it wont let me
[06:35] <pixelation> I really need help.. I have scanned the forums, and googled the hell out of myself.
[06:35] <Paddy_EIRE> geeksauce, yeah there is a command to get all the dependencies that gaim would use and pidgin ran straight away...no probs
[06:35] <ermac0> Biscuitian_Warhe, ssl ?
[06:35] <Tom47> !offtopic > bobdraken
[06:35] <Ausicaemia> I used a deb off www.getdeb.net
[06:35] <tritium> bobdraken: wrong channel
[06:35] <Biscuitian_Warhe> ermac0: no?
[06:35] <Flannel> dawn`chorus: yeah, that link works fine.  Although the "adding repositories" stuff is outdated.
[06:35] <dawn`chorus> pixelation, just calmly state your question.  :)
[06:35] <slavik> apt-get build-dep gaim
[06:35] <ermac0> Biscuitian_Warhe,  i think psi is more secure cuz of ssl,
[06:35] <ermac0> Biscuitian_Warhe,  and can use php
[06:35] <dawn`chorus> Flannel, hm.. strange.  at least we know it isn't broken.  :)
[06:35] <slavik> I tried compiling pidgin earlier today, but was a no go ... not sure why
[06:36] <Biscuitian_Warhe> ermac0: gotta love php :D
[06:36] <wastedfluid> I'm having problems hibernating from an acer 5100 + 7.04.  Any recommendations for a site to check out or something?  I searched google, but came up empty handed.  Hibernation works the first time you try it, but none after that.
[06:36] <Ausicaemia> geeksauce, www.getdeb.net, search for pidgin, also has pidgin-data and guifications
[06:36] <defrysk> slavik, pidging is available at getdeb.net
[06:36] <ermac0> Biscuitian_Warhe, i'm, telling you man
[06:36] <pixelation> Xarchiver will not extract any files.
[06:36] <ermac0> Biscuitian_Warhe, its great
[06:36] <geeksauce> thanks Ausicaemia
[06:36] <Biscuitian_Warhe> ermac0: sweeet
[06:36] <slavik> defrysk: I know ...
[06:37] <ermac0> slavik, missing libdev-pidgin
[06:37] <ermac0> ?
[06:37] <Paddy_EIRE> pixelation, what type of archive are you dealing with
[06:37] <slavik> ermac0: no idea, configure went fine
[06:38] <Dr_willis> Hmm. the LinuxMint repoitories have pidgen..
[06:38] <ermac0> slavik, did you make without errors ?
[06:38] <pixelation> .bz2
[06:38] <slavik> ermac0: that's where the error came ...
[06:39] <Paddy_EIRE> pixelation, hmm, that normally works straight away...did you try right clicking the file and choosing extract here
[06:39] <daquino> how do i get sound in flashplugin ?
[06:39] <pixelation> paddy_eire I'll try right now, brb
[06:39] <gladiewr> dr_willis, any ideas?
[06:39] <HeyGabe> Hi. I had kernel panic. Now PC won't start.
[06:40] <HeyGabe> Says "Incomplete Literal Tree."
[06:40] <HeyGabe> Someone help. :)
[06:40] <Biscuitian_Warhe> HeyGabe: What'd you do right before that happened?
[06:40] <Biscuitian_Warhe> New hardware, software, etc?
[06:40] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Update?
[06:40] <harisamin> Jordan_U: yeah it does work
[06:40] <HeyGabe> Nope.
[06:40] <pixelation> paddy_eire it didn't work...
[06:40] <HeyGabe> Had a hard reset (Power button).
[06:40] <Paddy_EIRE> pixelation, whats the error
[06:40] <HeyGabe> It never came back up.
[06:41] <pixelation> paddy_eire lemme get it up
[06:41] <harisamin> Jordan_U: but i've tried several distros and several cds ....speaking for linux distros ....and it never goes all thew ay through
[06:41] <harisamin> Jordan_U: i might just try it and see what happens
[06:41] <HeyGabe> Won't reboot from LiveCD either.
[06:41] <randoman__> anyone know why i get errors when garnome trys to installed zinity?
[06:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> HeyGabe: Ewww, that's probally why. I know from my experience that especially when a comp is doing something that freezes itself, that if it doesn't finish and it was important, it probally won't play nice.
[06:41] <randoman__> then it stops installed after that
[06:41] <Biscuitian_Warhe> HeyGabe: Does your pc turn on, and does it say anything?
[06:42] <HeyGabe> Yeah. It loads grub, I pick the kernel and then it goes to the "starting up..."
[06:42] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Try recovery mode?
[06:42] <Paddy_EIRE> HeyGabe, have you tried choosing a previous kernel
[06:43] <Bennedetto> hey, can anyone help me with a compiz fusion issue quick?
[06:43] <Bennedetto> How do I turn it off!
[06:43] <HeyGabe> I've tried three other kernels on two differnet physical disks.
[06:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Bennedetto, #ubuntu-effects
[06:43] <Jordan_U> harisamin, Try the minimal CD, it grabs almost everything from the internet so is less likely to be affected by a bad CD ROM drive
[06:43] <Bennedetto> ok thanks
[06:43] <pixelation> paddy_eire bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing.
[06:43] <Jordan_U> !minimal | harisamin
[06:43] <ubotu> harisamin: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[06:43] <Paddy_EIRE> pixelation, sounds like a faulty archive to me
[06:44] <harisamin> Jordan_U: i tried the minimal cd....dint work...same debootstrap error
[06:44] <pixelation> paddy_eire but this is with almost every archive I have downloaded
[06:44] <Paddy_EIRE> pixelation, have you tried downloading that same file from an alternative source
[06:44] <Biscuitian_Warhe> HeyGabe: Hmm, I really doubt it's going to work, did you put in the livecd, access yer bios/boot menu, and choose the cd?
[06:44] <Frogzoo> anyone care to suggest a card index application (eg ms cardfile or jotnotes), I currently use hnb, is there anything similiar/better?
[06:44] <Paddy_EIRE> pixelation, where from so I CAN TRY
[06:44] <Paddy_EIRE> oops
[06:44] <pixelation> paddy_eire many times
[06:44] <HeyGabe> Yeah, the boot CD errors too. I suggest it's failing hardware.
[06:45] <pixelation> paddy_eire okay lemme find one
[06:45] <Biscuitian_Warhe> well with a hard poweroff like that
[06:45] <Biscuitian_Warhe> i know for a week straight my bios would not load because i did that so much, so i just reset the cmos about 5 times, and it hasn't acted up since :P
[06:45] <pixelation> paddy_eire http://icculus.org/news/news.php?id=1883
[06:45] <harisamin> Jordan_U: i actually didnt tell u this....but i've been trying the alternate cds....i tried the edgy desktop cd....to install from there...now that cd loads the x window system...but i get the cursor spiinning i can move the cursor....but nothing loads after that
[06:45] <harisamin> ?
[06:46] <harisamin> Jordan_U: any idea what i could do for that instead?
[06:46] <Paddy_EIRE> pixelation, could you send me another link to some other file you have tried..which is not so big
[06:46] <pixelation> paddy_eire yeah
[06:47] <Jordan_U> harisamin, How much RAM does it have?
[06:47] <harisamin> Jordan_U: any idea what i coudl do to solve that...it just hangs on that circle curssor with the bropwn background
[06:47] <harisamin> 1.128 gigs
[06:48] <pixelation> paddy_eire actually the error messages on the other files are different because of an incompatability error (i have 64 bit
[06:48] <Paddy_EIRE> pixelation, is there any particular reason why you choose 64bit
[06:49] <Jordan_U> harisamin, Have you tried restarting X after that? Or killing X and starting it via "startx" from a terminal ?
[06:49] <pixelation> paddy_eire because it came with my computer?
[06:49] <Wonderboy_> I'm upgrading to edgy at the moment and for some reason my fonts went all weird, anyone know anything about it?
[06:49] <harisamin> Jordan_U: how  do i kill X?
[06:49] <Paddy_EIRE> pixelation, I have a 64bit processor but would not consider running 64bit OS, you should use the 32bit ubuntu less hassle
[06:50] <pixelation> paddy_eire okay.. this is going to be a bitch to re-install.
[06:50] <pixelation> paddy_eire allrighty then, bye bye.
[06:50] <Paddy_EIRE> pixelation, you are also not really benefiting any by using a 64bit distro as majority of the app are 32
[06:50] <Jordan_U> harisamin, Go to a terminal with ctrl+alt+F1 and run: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:50] <Dante_J> Hello all. Yesterday I did a fresh install going from 6.10 to 7.04 on a ThinkPad T30. I have 2 areas of concern 1) USB is lost after waking from Suspend 2) Nautilis at times has been using abnormally high CPU 100% until I kill it.
[06:50] <pixelation> paddy_eire bye then.
[06:50] <demoncorsair> hey room
[06:50] <Paddy_EIRE> pixelation, no probs
[06:50] <room> demoncorsair, Hi
[06:51] <demoncorsair> lol
[06:51] <demoncorsair> is ubuntu hard to install on a 166Mhz
[06:51] <demoncorsair> this coming from a  gentoo user
[06:51] <harisamin> Jordan_U: and then type 'startx'?
[06:51] <Dante_J> is there room in your heart Jordan_U ?
[06:51] <ermac0> demoncorsair, you might as well install openbsd as a console server
[06:51] <Jordan_U> harisamin, Yes.
[06:52] <Wonderboy_> Does anyone know why the default font for applications would change when upgrading from Dapper to Edgy?
[06:52] <Jordan_U> demoncorsair, No, just use the text based installer
[06:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Wonderboy_, maybe they changed it
[06:52] <Wonderboy_> Paddy_EIRE: Indeed, it seems that way. Heh.
[06:52] <Jordan_U> !alternate | demoncorsair
[06:52] <ubotu> demoncorsair: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[06:53] <Paddy_EIRE> Wonderboy_, why using edgy?
[06:53] <Wonderboy_> Paddy_EIRE: Upgrading all the way to feisty most likely.
[06:53] <Paddy_EIRE> oh
[06:54] <Wonderboy_> But I'm a little upset that so far my font is ugly in my applications. heh
[06:54] <Paddy_EIRE> Wonderboy_, then change it
[06:54] <Wonderboy_> Paddy_EIRE: I don't remember what the default was for Dapper.
[06:54] <Ausicaemia> I'll ask again now in case anyone has come in that knows.
[06:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Wonderboy_, sans
[06:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Wonderboy_, I think
[06:55] <Ausicaemia> Does anybody know why my startup entries get reset on reboot? Is there are a way to edit the file directly or something?
[06:55] <Paddy_EIRE> Wonderboy_, perhaps you had sub pixel smoothing enabled before aswell, that helps
[06:56] <Wonderboy_> Anyway to change default font from cli? I'm using fluxbox and I'm not sure how to get to the default font interface.
[06:56] <Paddy_EIRE> Wonderboy_, not sure if that applies itself in real-time though
[06:56] <Paddy_EIRE> Wonderboy_, sorry I use Gnome
[06:57] <Dante_J> Hello again, my question again, one at a time: Yesterday I did a fresh install going from 6.10 to 7.04 on a ThinkPad T30. USB is lost after waking from Suspend. PCMCIA devices work fine.
[06:58] <Paddy_EIRE> Ausicaemia, have you tried the forums? the way I said works perfectly...I mean how many times are you going to need to change your startup entries at high speed?
[06:58] <korupt> hey guys i have a problem i have a nvidia geforce graphics adaptor and im using my television as my monitor but its not showing the desktop it goes to a black screen i know the os is working but i cant see the gui
[06:59] <korupt> i see the booting process its just when its going into the gui
[06:59] <jordan_> Is it possible to transfer files with two SSH hops?  (ie - logged into one computer which is logged into another via SSH on both)
[06:59] <Ausicaemia> Paddy_EIRE, I've checked the forums, I guess I'll post a thread or something
[07:00] <RoC_MasterMind> jordan_, yes...you can scp the file to the middle computer, then to the end 3rd computer.
[07:00] <Flannel> jordan_: you might have to do them one computer at a time.
[07:00] <Ausicaemia> Paddy_EIRE, I just want to know why this isn't working. All well and good if saving the session works, but I would prefer to find a solution to this problem.
[07:00] <jordan_> RoC_mastermind: what is scp?
[07:00] <korupt> im pretty sure it has something to do with the graphics settings but im not sure what to do.
[07:00] <Wonderboy_> secure copy
[07:00] <Flannel> !scp | jordan_
[07:00] <ubotu> jordan_: SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[07:00] <RoC_MasterMind> Wow
[07:01] <Paddy_EIRE> Ausicaemia, as I said though my desktop has a similar bug and I dont think many ppl would no which file that writes to
[07:01] <korupt> wonder boy have you heard of any problems like this befor
[07:01] <jordan_> thank you, flannel
[07:01] <korupt> *before
[07:01] <Wonderboy_> korupt: what's the problem?
[07:01] <Paddy_EIRE> Ausicaemia, bugs a bug learn to program if you want to no why its not working
[07:02] <Wonderboy_> korupt: ah, no, never used a tv for it.
[07:02] <korupt> im using my nvidia card to hook up my television as the monitor. i see the booting process but when it goes to enter the guii it flakes
[07:02] <Ausicaemia> Paddy_EIRE, It may not be a bug, it may be a permission error, which is exactly why I'm asking the question.
[07:02] <Wonderboy_> Have you tried restarting x?
[07:02] <korupt> *gui
[07:02] <Wonderboy_> It's been a long time since I've had an X problem.
[07:02] <korupt> i cant get into x? i have tried init 5 at
[07:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Ausicaemia, either way you'd be quicker tinkering yourself
[07:03] <korupt> term
[07:03] <Wonderboy_> Can you boot to cli?
[07:03] <korupt> i can boot to logon before entering gui
[07:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Ausicaemia, your the only other person besides me that I know of anyway that has encountered this problem
[07:03] <korupt> the failsafe
[07:04] <Wonderboy_> Right, do that and then use the xorg reconfiguration utility
[07:04] <korupt> xorgconfig?
[07:04] <Wonderboy_> Aye
[07:04] <korupt> i tried that command its not found but i could be typing it right
[07:05] <Paddy_EIRE> later all :D
[07:05] <sidlet> Anybody here have any comments on game pad support for linus?
[07:05] <korupt> i tried these variables xorgconfig xorg and X11Config
[07:05] <sidlet> linux
[07:05] <Wonderboy_> Hm... Type x and then tab to see what commands are availible. Look for one that is a configuration.
[07:05] <sidlet> i'm pondering on getting one, and curious on how well its going to work out
[07:05] <korupt> sounds good wonderboy im sure in there i can set up the graphics card also one more thing i know my card is restricted can i enable it from x config
[07:06] <toddy> any one has the experience of configuring vsftpd
[07:06] <Dante_J> My once more: Yesterday I did a fresh install going from 6.10 to 7.04 on a ThinkPad T30. USB is lost after waking from Suspend. This was not a problem in 6.10
[07:06] <Wonderboy_> korupt: I don't think you can... But hey, things could have changed since the last time I used it. ;)
[07:06] <Wonderboy_> perhaps there is a restricted-driver command from cli
[07:06] <calc> Dante_J: saw the same thing recently on my desktop machine, it was working until late this past week
[07:06] <calc> Dante_J: i don't know if its usb is still dead or if it was a one time thing
[07:07] <calc> hmm nevermind my desktop is running gutsy actually, i forgot about that
[07:07] <korupt> i will try google see what i can find on that thank you wonder boy for the input always nice to find help in the irc channel i have seen alot of channels that dont help at all so thank you very much
[07:07] <korupt> :)
[07:07] <Wonderboy_> korupt: sudo apt-cache search restricted
[07:08] <Wonderboy_> that will help :)
[07:08] <korupt> thank you soo much :)
[07:08] <Wonderboy_> No problem
[07:08] <Wonderboy_> good luck
[07:09] <korupt> :)
[07:09] <korupt> time to see if this works be back in a little while :)
[07:10] <toddy> i can upload files through a vsftpd through my vsftpd on my own PC,But others can't:showing 553 error:Could not create file,why
[07:10] <toddy> any one can help?
[07:11] <alecw1> I'm having a problem with Java! Whenever I open a java program, like "FrostWire" it doesn't work! Nothing happens, I don't get an error message or anything. I have Java 6 installed. What's wrong?
[07:12] <alecw1> Running "frostwire" from the terminal gives me this: Java exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...
[07:12] <alecw1> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[07:12] <alecw1> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[07:12] <alecw1> ls: /usr/java/j*: No such file or directory
[07:12] <alecw1> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[07:12] <alecw1> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[07:12] <alecw1> ls: /opt/j*: No such file or directory
[07:12] <alecw1> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /opt/  hierarchy
[07:12] <alecw1> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[07:12] <alecw1> "
[07:12] <alecw1> Sorry for the flooding. :(
[07:13] <DerangedDingo> what's the channel for Compiz/etc
[07:13] <kravlin> hey. just wondering. if you can't execute pmount what's another way to mount a drive?
[07:13] <mister_roboto> !beryl | DerangedDingo
[07:13] <ubotu> DerangedDingo: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:13] <DerangedDingo> thanks
[07:14] <Dante_J> My question: Yesterday I did a fresh install going from 6.10 to 7.04 on a ThinkPad T30. Previously Suspend worked perfectly. With 7.10 USB is lost after waking from Suspend.
[07:14] <toddy> QUESTION: i can upload files through my vsftpd on my own PC,But others can't:showing 553 error:Could not create file,why
[07:14] <kravlin> How do i mount files without pmount? I need to back up some files before a clean install.
[07:15] <mister_roboto> toddy: i seem to recall configuration is necessary to allow other users but don't remember exactly. did you try googling for your error message?
[07:16] <toddy> yes!but no correct anwser !and my vsftpd is 2.0.5
[07:16] <taufiq> i can't hear my sound in laptop lenovo 3000 y 400 whit UBUNTU 7.04
[07:16] <toddy> they use the anonymous  to login
[07:17] <Cryoniq> Hi! Is there a way to burn .img image under ubuntu? k3b doesnt seem to be able to handle that =/
[07:18] <RoC_MasterMind> what's the best way to temporarily turn off gnome-panel so I can play with kiba-dock?
[07:18] <toddy> mister_roboto:is there a manual for this?
[07:18] <alecw1> How can I change the rendering platform in Compiz-fusion?
[07:19] <iTG`Neatchee> woohoo!  it took me all night but i finally got pidgin-otr to work on feisty ^^
[07:19] <defrysk> alecw1, /j #ubuntu-effects
[07:19] <iTG`Neatchee> horray for meeee!
[07:20] <kravlin> anyone know how to mount in a live-cd?
[07:20] <mister_roboto> toddy: did you read the man page?   there's this too: http://vsftpd.beasts.org/vsftpd_conf.html
[07:20] <toddy> thanks you so much!any way,i'm new!
[07:21] <toddy> mister_roboto thank you!
[07:21] <mister_roboto> toddy: you're welcome
[07:21] <kravlin> anyone know how to mount while on a live-cd?
[07:21] <toddy> ^_~
[07:22] <dawn`chorus> kravlin, same way you do otherwise.  are you having problems?
[07:22] <slavik> how do I fix the problem with hotkey-setup not wanting to upgrade (the removal script has troubles)
[07:23] <kravlin>  dawn`chorus: yeah. It says pmount can'
[07:23] <kravlin> 't be executed
[07:23] <dawn`chorus> kravlin, oh.  i dunno about pmount.
[07:24] <buize> hey
[07:24] <buize> im using ubuntu for 1st time
[07:24] <buize> can someone help me out
[07:24] <kravlin> buize: it might be better if you stated your question.
[07:25] <kravlin> Anyone know how to mount if Ubuntu tells you it can't use Pmount or am i screwed?
[07:25] <buize> i just installed wine
[07:25] <buize> i have to move 2 dlls from the desktop to /.wine/windows/system32
[07:26] <Dante_J> Yesterday I did a fresh install going from 6.10 to 7.04 on a ThinkPad T30. Previously Suspend worked perfectly. With 7.10 the USB bus is lost after waking from Suspend. A restart is required to activate USB again.
[07:26] <buize> i can't browse to the .wine folder for some reason?
[07:26] <kravlin> buize: This is the ubuntu channel for general ubuntu questions. if you want help with wine i would suggest going to #winehq
[07:26] <dawn`chorus> buize, display hidden files.  it's in the menu.
[07:26] <kravlin> buize: They are hidden.
[07:26] <utNubu068> Hi everybody. does anyone know of a good networking tutorial to help me get 2 ubuntu 7.04 computers to see each other?
[07:26] <slavik> buize: in nautilus, did you enable hidden directories? (Ctrl+H)
[07:26] <buize> oooh
[07:26] <buize> ty :D
[07:26] <kravlin> buize: All files that start with a period are hidden
[07:27] <slavik> buize: as a convention, anything that begins with a dot '.' is not automatically listed :)
[07:27] <xdemondogx> hey all
[07:27] <kravlin> anyone know how to mount a drive without using Pmount?
[07:27] <xdemondogx> =O
[07:27] <bulmer> did you try just the regular mount command and being as root?
[07:27] <Nippa> have you tried regular old mount?
[07:28] <qnyc> utNubu068, explain see each other, what do you want to do?
[07:28] <buize> sweet i got WoW to work
[07:28] <buize> thx guys
[07:28] <dawn`chorus> buize, Ubuntu love you.  remember!
[07:28] <buize> its not bad
[07:28] <buize> i'm liking it so far
[07:29] <utNubu068> I have tried to make shares on both computers, but I can't browse them thru the network servers folder.
[07:29] <buize> the installation was so painless
[07:29] <buize> i'm not even going to bother with a win xp partition
[07:29] <xdemondogx> guys if ya install ubuntu with dual boot will it take hard disk space or sometihng like that?
[07:29] <kravlin> nippa: so the command would be sudo mount sda3?
[07:29] <nrdb> Hi I am using openoffice 2.0.2 database with postgresql when I try to filter a query on a date filed it uses the construct " <field name> > {D '2006-01-01}" but postgresql is erroring on this :( can I get it to use "<field name> > '2006-01-01'" ?
[07:29] <Nippa> probably sudo mount /dev/sda3 , but yeah
[07:29] <utNubu068> tried smb and nfs with no luck
[07:29] <kravlin> xdemondogsx: yes it will. Are you running windows right now?
[07:29] <dawn`chorus> xdemondogx, yes.  it will take up more hard disk space, unless you shrink one of the partitions.
[07:29] <xdemondogx> yes
[07:30] <xdemondogx> what are partisions?
[07:30] <dawn`chorus> xdemondogx, they're like slices of pie.  your hdd is a pie.  partitions are slices you can divide up any way you like.
[07:30] <xdemondogx> hdd?
[07:30] <_Codeman_> Ok, I lock my session, my brother starts a new session and is on for a bit, then logs off, then it goes to a gray screen and doesn't respond to anything except Ctrl+Alt+Del
[07:30] <dawn`chorus> hard disk drive.
[07:30] <xdemondogx> owh thnx
[07:31] <_Codeman_> any ideas?
[07:31] <xdemondogx> dawn: ya know a way too shrink the partitions?
[07:31] <pynoob> You can resize a partition.. the problem is the file system
[07:31] <kravlin> xdemondogx: BEFORE you partition anything please run a defragmenting program a few times.
[07:31] <xdemondogx> ok
[07:31] <Dante_J> kravlin, first find the hdd try: dmesg | grep hda or dmesg | grep sda
[07:32] <dawn`chorus> xdemondogx, check the amount of free space you have on your windows partition.  and do what the other folks are telling you.  :)
[07:32] <defrysk> xdemondogx, first you dont know what partitions are and now want to shrink them ? you seem to know more then you let on to
[07:32] <pynoob> Someone has told you to backup everything first, right? :D
[07:32] <kravlin> now they have
[07:32] <xdemondogx> and if ya boot Ubuntu for the first time is it like starting over?
[07:33] <dawn`chorus> xdemondogx, ubuntu installer can take certain settings and files from Windows, so you won't be starting over completely.
[07:33] <xdemondogx> ok
[07:33] <kravlin> xdemondogx: One question. why do you want to install ubuntu?
[07:33] <Dante_J> kravlin, do you know the partition you're after, if not try: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda  (taking forgranted that you're hdd is sda)
[07:33] <xdemondogx> win getting sucky~.~
[07:34] <kravlin> dante_J: I did find it.
[07:34] <kravlin> dante_J: its sda3
[07:34] <xdemondogx> mhmh
[07:34] <kravlin> but it doesn't like it.
[07:34] <dawn`chorus> xdemondogx, you'll want to read some howto's on how to dual boot.  Read some here.  http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[07:35] <J-_> is there anyway I can use the system>admin>'network' gui in fluxbox on a server? if so, what's the package name?
[07:36] <pynoob> What do you need the gui for?
[07:36] <kenym> hola
[07:36] <xdemondogx> dawn: so it CAN take some files of windows??
[07:36] <kravlin> dante_j: I get this error when running  sudo mount /dev/sda3
[07:36] <kravlin>  mount: can't find /dev/sda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:36] <xdemondogx> are those important?
[07:36] <pynoob> you need to specify the mount point
[07:36] <pynoob> as well
[07:37] <pynoob> suod mount /dev/sda3 /mount/point
[07:37] <StoLA> :)
[07:37] <Dante_J> msg kravlin, did you make the directory to mount into as I mentioned? /media/temp
[07:37] <tzolkin> http://tunteella.xerc.biz/425.jpg
[07:38] <kravlin> dante_J; im currently running off a live cd. I need to do some backups before a clean install. Some crappy partitioning has rendered my install useless.
[07:38] <Draconicus> I noticed that a Feisty install I had offered to run the AutoRun.exe on a Windows install CD through WINE once when I popped it in. Does this always happen if WINE is installed? I can't really check right now.
[07:39] <Dante_J> you can make a directory in /media when running the live cd. I did it last night
[07:41] <clearzen> How do I stop Rythmbox from loading everytime I insert my ipod?
[07:41] <J-_> what's the command to get Network running from the terminal?
[07:41] <StoLA> i go smoke some crack ->
[07:41] <pynoob> sudo dhclient eth0 ? :D
[07:41] <clearzen> J-_: sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[07:41] <tritium> !offtopic > StoLA (see the private message from ubotu)
[07:41] <dawn`chorus> clearzen, System > Pref's > Removable Drives and Media
[07:41] <Vegancheesesteak> hi. does anyone know how to load an icm color profile into xorg?
[07:42] <Dante_J> Yesterday I did a fresh install going from 6.10 to 7.04 on a ThinkPad T30. Previously Suspend worked perfectly. With 7.10 the USB bus is lost after waking from Suspend. A restart is required to activate USB again.
[07:42] <J-_> clearzen: didn't work, heh.
[07:42] <clearzen> dawn`chorus: Thank you. That was getting to be very annoying .
[07:42] <clearzen> try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:42] <Dante_J> Any Kernel hackers, or friends of such about?
[07:42] <dawn`chorus> clearzen, i know what you mean.  and you're welcome.
[07:42] <kravlin> dante_J: it doesn;t look like it will let me.
[07:44] <J-_> clearzen: that just restarted my network.
[07:44] <m4O4`zzZ> clearzen : even worse for me, when i plugin my PSP it'll start rythmbox xD now there's really NO use for rythmbox with a psp ;)
[07:44] <clearzen> J-_: What do you want to do? I thought you wanted to start your networking
[07:44] <J-_> i just want the dhcp client to come up so I can configure my internal IP, etc. from terminal
[07:45] <clearzen> m4O4`zzZ: lol, that sucks. I use my ipod as a portable hard drive as much as a music player personally.
[07:45] <ant-> J-_, are you having problems with nm-applet?
[07:45] <m4O4`zzZ> dhcp ? shouldn't that be done with ifconfig ?
[07:46] <EvFan1> Hi everybody! I'm running the normal Desktop Effects in FIesty, but after a reboot my windows are doing something really wierd. They are sticking to the panels and other windows. Like it's hard to get them to not stick to each other. Does anyone know if this is normal and how I can turn it off.
[07:46] <ant-> m4O4`zzZ, unless he has wireless, which would be iwconfig
[07:46] <clearzen> J-_: sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0
[07:47] <J-_> clearzen: system>admin> and 'network', click on the that and a small gui window pops up. I want to run something from terminal to get that same gui window to popup in fluxbox so I can configure the internal IP
[07:47] <m4O4`zzZ> EvFan1 i don't exactly remember the values, but i guess u have set the sticking feature a bit too wide ... check gconf-editor and search for the Compiz settings (compiz = desktop effects)
[07:47] <clearzen> J-_: gksu mouse /etc/network/interfaces
[07:47] <ant-> J-_, type 'nm-applet &'
[07:47] <clearzen> J-_: Wait, mouse is in Xfce I think
[07:47] <clearzen> J-_: just use nano
[07:48] <StoLA> yo
[07:48] <ryanricard> quick question: is there any way to change the name of the "Applications" menu?
[07:48] <Dante_J> Yesterday I did a fresh install going from 6.10 to 7.04 on a ThinkPad T30. Previously Suspend worked perfectly. With 7.10 the USB bus is lost after waking from Suspend. A restart is required to activate USB again.
[07:48] <kravlin> Dante_J: I just mounted it to my home directory. it was much easier
[07:48] <ryanricard> preferably to nothing (just the logo)
[07:48] <J-_> hmm, clearzen where is the file located that I need to configure then?
[07:48] <skarevoluti> ryanricard: in xubuntu?
[07:49] <ryanricard> ubuntu
[07:49] <clearzen> J-_: the path to the file is /etc/network/interfaces
[07:49] <ryanricard> regular old gnome
[07:49] <m4O4`zzZ> gnome is NOT old ! it's just .. uhm ... "conventional" ;-)
[07:49] <ant-> J-_ , for the gui type 'nm-applet'
[07:50] <ant-> j- i mean 'gksu nm-applet'
[07:50] <ryanricard> yeah, that's what I mean
[07:50] <m4O4`zzZ> ryanricard i'm not really sure, but i think u have to edit the theme you're using
[07:50] <clearzen> J-_: I thought you wanted the command line equivalent. If not gksu nm-applet is what you want
[07:51] <m4O4`zzZ> ryanricard no wait, that was totally wrong from me ... it can't be the theme as themes work for every language ... sry, my fault
[07:51] <ryanricard> m404`zzZ:I've tried changing the name in ~/.config/menu/applications.menu but it doesn't change the name
[07:51] <m4O4`zzZ> did u edit the file ?
[07:52] <bruenig> ryanakca, you can use the applet that only has the logo, but you can't change the name
[07:52] <H3lp> Hello everyone
[07:52] <bruenig> ryanricard, ^
[07:52] <ryanricard> bruenig:how do I use only the logo?
[07:52] <ryanricard> that's what I want to do anyway
[07:53] <J-_> clearzen ant- thanks muchly! But now I face a different problem is there's no notification area in fluxbox which in turn gives me another problem of clicking on the icon to run it =X
[07:53] <bruenig> ryanricard, right click on the panel, select add to panel, get the applet that only has the logo
[07:53] <H3lp> i'm facing problems with aMSN , where i cannot login after upgrading to version 97 due to a TLS problem where even though i downloaded it aMSN still asks for it prohibiting me of logging in can anyone help out ?!
[07:53] <bruenig> ryanricard, and right click and remove the other applet, the one with the three menus
[07:53] <ignignokt> my sound card disappeared.  bad.
[07:53] <ryanricard> bruenig
[07:53] <ryanricard> it worked
[07:53] <ryanricard> bruenig:thanks, that was easy
[07:54] <ignignokt> well not really, but no apps play sound (some crash, some just look frozen) and the vol. control in my tray says there's no device to control
[07:54] <bruenig> when gnome actually can do something, it is usually easy to do so
[07:54] <ignignokt> however
[07:54] <EvFan1> m4O4`zzZ: I tried that and I couldn't find anything.
[07:54] <ant-> J-_, what do you mean? do you want the nm-applet to start at every new fluxbox session?
[07:54] <ignignokt> my sound card shows up with lspci
[07:54] <skarevoluti> H3lp: go to #amsn
[07:54] <ignignokt> so can anyone help?
[07:55] <H3lp> thank you skarevoluti
[07:55] <J-_> ant-: that yeah, but I primarily want a system tray like place that'll show it?
[07:55] <m4O4`zzZ> EvFan1, google for "Compiz Settings Manager" and download that ... there are options in there for that.
[07:55] <EvFan1> m4O4`zzZ: Thanks!
[07:56] <ignignokt> "the volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control.  this means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured."
[07:56] <DerangedDingo> Hello, does anyone know if there's a way to reset all my desktop effects/compiz preferences to defaults?
[07:57] <ant-> J-_, the nm-applet should show up in the right of the toolbar
[07:57] <nrdb> when will a latter version of OpenOffice (greater than 2.0.2) be ready for ubuntu 6.06 ?
[07:57] <bastidrazor> gimp resizing images.. isn't there a way to resize multiple files at once
[07:57] <kravlin> I cant get any windows to open. any suggestions?
[07:57] <DanaG> Is there an easy way to get this effect:  http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?skinid=293&libid=50
[07:57] <J-_> ant-: hmm okay, I'll check it out, thanks muchly.
[07:58] <mythril> I have a kernel message that keeps printing to my shell, how do I get it to stop?
[07:58] <DanaG> I know xplanet can do it, but I don't know how to set it up.
[07:58] <roho> !thinclient
[07:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thinclient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <DerangedDingo> Hello, does anyone know if there's a way to reset all my desktop effects/compiz preferences to defaults?
[07:59] <bruenig> DerangedDingo, #ubuntu-effects, I imagine deleting a config directory would do the trick
[07:59] <ignignokt> bruenig, any advice for me?
[08:00] <bruenig> none
[08:00] <J-_> ant-: weird, I go to search in synaptic to install, and it's not there, unless it's already installed. but i doubt it is.
[08:00] <ignignokt> that's a shame :(
[08:00] <kravlin> i can't seem to get any windows of any kind open currently. menus work fine and so do icons but i cant get a terminal open.
[08:00] <kravlin> Help?
[08:00] <bruenig> J-_, what are you looking for
[08:01] <DerangedDingo> thanks bruenig. i thought i'd ask here since not many people in Ubuntu-Effects... are... responsive
[08:01] <bruenig> kravlin, try restarting x, ctrl + alt + backspace
[08:01] <mythril> kravlin ctrl-alt-f1 should bring you to a terminal
[08:01] <bruenig> DerangedDingo, ~/.compiz or something like that
[08:01] <mythril> if that helps at all
[08:01] <J-_> bruenig: nm-applet
[08:02] <bruenig> J-_, network-manager-gnome
[08:02] <J-_> thanks
[08:03] <colbert> !conky
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conky - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <colbert> how do I install conky ?
[08:04] <bruenig> colbert, sudo apt-get install conky
[08:04] <J-_> no network devices found =|
[08:04] <spf2k> im looking for a good program so that i can learn how to write code in c/c++.  do you guys know any good ones?  eclipse any good?
[08:04] <bruenig> spf2k, sounds like you are looking for a book
[08:04] <MR> Hi, is the alternate iso the live cd?
[08:05] <spf2k> bruenig> well, you need a program as well
[08:05] <bruenig> MR, no the desktop is the live cd, the alternate is the text install
[08:05] <defrysk> MR, no
[08:05] <bruenig> spf2k, vim is good, gedit has syntax highlighting
[08:05] <MR> Oh ok
[08:05] <bruenig> I use geany on occasion, usually just vim though
[08:06] <spf2k> bruenig> those are just text editors
[08:06] <Cu_Ranh> helo
[08:06] <bruenig> spf2k, right
[08:06] <reed026> does xubuntu come installed with LAMP
[08:06] <bruenig> reed026, no
[08:06] <bruenig> spf2k, compile using gcc
[08:06] <bruenig> or g++
[08:07] <MR> I am confused about the grub re-install guide then. I have download and burnt the desktop cd. Now when i start the computer with the cd, it goes to install, not desktop terminal -> grub ?
[08:07] <reed026> ahh sudo apt-get apache ?
[08:07] <spf2k> ahh....
[08:07] <spf2k> bruenig> ever use eclipse?
[08:07] <bruenig> no
[08:07] <reed026> or is it possible to download through Repos
[08:07] <spf2k> ahh
[08:07] <bruenig> MR, you fire up a terminal and do it yourself
[08:07] <J-_> heh weird, my network is enabled, yet nm-applet isn't picking up it is. can't configure it neither. =S
[08:08] <MR> bruenig: How can i get to the terminal , that's the problem i am facing
[08:08] <bruenig> MR, applications>accessories>terminal
[08:08] <bruenig> J-_, what is the interface
[08:08] <bruenig> !ops
[08:08] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[08:09] <bruenig> J-_, wlan0?
[08:09] <MR> bruening: My xp installation has over-written the MBR. I cannot' access ubuntu
[08:09] <tzolkin> if guys could easily suck their own cocks .. women would be obsoleted
[08:09] <dawn`chorus> what was that all about?
[08:09] <bruenig> MR, put the live cd in, open a terminal, and follow the guide
[08:09] <tzolkin> http://tunteella.xerc.biz/425.jpg
[08:09] <bruenig> !ops | tzolkin
[08:09] <ubotu> tzolkin: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[08:09] <netG> hi
[08:09] <skipe> Boa Noite!!
[08:10] <tzolkin> haha
[08:10] <skipe> I need to help!!
[08:10] <tzolkin> bruenig: do you disagree?
[08:10] <bruenig> !ops | tzolkin
[08:10] <ubotu> tzolkin: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[08:10] <Myrtti> tzolkin: behave!
[08:10] <netG> where can I find some hordware suggestions for example: 64X2 vs Intel c2d 5000+, or ATI vs Nvidia vs Intel GMA
[08:10] <bastidrazor> imagemagick is the way to go. CLI has a blue million configuration options
[08:10] <dawn`chorus> skipe, don't be shy.  just ask.  :)
[08:10] <nixternal> wth
[08:11] <dawn`chorus> so how many users is Ubuntu up to now?  anyone know?
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> dawn`chorus: We can only guess.
[08:11] <hylje> millions
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> millions, but who knows how many
[08:12] <bruenig> dawn`chorus, I would imagine that the number of ubuntu forums members it the best measure, add a little to it and that is probably about it
[08:12] <dawn`chorus> tonyyarusso, any recent estimates by Canonical?  i'm sure such a thing is hard to gauge.
[08:12] <tonyyarusso> dawn`chorus: I haven't heard any - just off-the-cuff remarks in interviews
[08:12] <dawn`chorus> bruenig, that's reasonable.
[08:12] <bruenig> Members: 328,476
[08:12] <bruenig> so probably 400,000
[08:13] <hylje> what
[08:13] <dawn`chorus> yeah.  that's sounds right.  good strong number, there.
[08:13] <tonyyarusso> bruenig: that doesn't factor in any non-individual deployments
[08:13] <hylje> guaranteed 400k but i'd go much further up
[08:13] <bruenig> but people leave too
[08:13] <bruenig> but still have membership
[08:13] <hylje> i for one have not joined the forums, for exampl
[08:13] <hylje> e
[08:13] <bruenig> and some people become members even if they aren't ubuntu users, so I would say that is fair
[08:14] <dawn`chorus> i just can't wait for Gutsy to get done.
[08:14] <bruenig> what does gutsy have
[08:14] <clearzen> bruenig: What about business users? It wouldn't factor in those numbers
[08:14] <boubbin> how to decode avis to divx or xvid ?
[08:14] <dawn`chorus> no idea.  but if they live up to Feisty, it'll be splendid.
[08:14] <_Codeman_> Ok, I lock my session, my brother starts a new session and is on for a bit, then logs off, then it goes to a gray screen and doesn't respond to anything except Ctrl+Alt+Del, any idea why it would do that
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> !gutsy | bruenig, look at last link
[08:14] <ubotu> bruenig, look at last link: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[08:14] <colbert> Can I play video formats with a fresh Feisty install or what do I need to do
[08:14] <bruenig> clearzen, there aren't that many of those
[08:15] <dawn`chorus> colbert, you'll need to install some codecs for restricted formats.  i'll give a link.  just a sec.
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> I'd argue that.  I get the impression there are many more than you think.
[08:15] <J-_> bruenig: not totally sure
[08:15] <natbet> anyone know how to get surround sound working?
[08:15] <bruenig> J-_, do iwconfig and see which interface has stuff by it
[08:15] <phpcurious> how do you re-install a package in ubuntu?
[08:15] <clearzen> !restricted | colbert
[08:15] <ubotu> colbert: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:15] <StoLA> ...
[08:16] <dawn`chorus> colbert, http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> phpcurious: sudo aptitude reinstall packagename
[08:16] <phpcurious> ahhh thanks
[08:16] <tmcks> i'm trying to build linux-restricted modules for a custom kernel (2.6.21) -- I've modified the version in the debian/rules file but it appears to still be building against my original kernel headers -- any pointers?
[08:16] <bruenig> tonyyarusso, that list is underwhelming, at least at the top, the first two have no real impact on end user, except I guess the first one if it prints out more meaningful errors so people can understand it, the next one no impact, free flash won't happen by gutsy
[08:17] <bruenig> then a bunch of mobile stuff
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> tmcks: I can't stick around now to look at much, but check if it has a manual link to the dir or anything silly like that?
[08:17] <dawn`chorus> tmcks, i'm a newb, but maybe /usr/src/linux needs to point to the new headers?
[08:17] <tmcks> dawn`chorus: i have that link in place
[08:18] <tmcks> tonyyarusso: it doesn't appear to
[08:18] <bruenig> J-_, did you figure that out?
[08:18] <MrOtacon> hey guys - the power is going down in my apt block @ 9 in the morning, but i wont be here.. i want my computer to shut down at, say 8:45 as i have active torrents... anyone know how to use the shutdown command to do this?
[08:18] <clearzen> MrOtacon: make a cron job for it
[08:18] <dawn`chorus> MrOtacon, sudo shutdown -h +MIN can do it to.
[08:18] <bruenig> MrOtacon, you could count the number of seconds and do shutdown -t seconds
[08:19] <bruenig> oh it has mins?
[08:19] <MrOtacon> dawn`chorus: thanks :)
[08:19] <dawn`chorus> with the + in front.
[08:19] <MrOtacon> thanks everyone
[08:19] <bruenig> I would have gone cron job route myself
[08:19] <J-_> bruenig: not sure what to figure out actially? =\ whether it be wlan0 or not, not sure where to check.
[08:19] <dawn`chorus> like sudo shutdown -h +120 is two hours from now.
[08:20] <defrysk> MrOtacon, sudo shutdown -h hh:mm
[08:20] <MrOtacon> :) - yep - works fine, thanks a lot :D
[08:20] <kravlin> woot. now i'm using smart to try and find out if my disk is good or not.
[08:20] <kravlin> any help with that one?
[08:20] <bruenig> J-_, I said, open a terminal, do iwconfig and see which one has wireless stuff by it
[08:20] <dawn`chorus> MrOtacon, there's always four correct ways to do anything in Linux.  :)
[08:20] <dawn`chorus> if not more.
[08:20] <MrOtacon> dawn`chorus: :D - just getting used to it - ditched XP yesterday
[08:21] <ignignokt> i thought i should let you know, the sound stopped working because i was messing with groups
[08:21] <dawn`chorus> MrOtacon, Linux Pocket Guide.  written for Fedora, has a couple Debian commands, but is a good primer for $10.
[08:21] <ignignokt> somehow i removed my permission to access sound devices
[08:21] <ignignokt> all's well now :)
[08:21] <Nippa> $(sleep XXm; sudo shutdown now) & would do it too... >_>
[08:21] <arooni> ok so my livecd said ubuntu was installed and such
[08:21] <bruenig> J-_, or...
[08:22] <arooni> but when i tell my bios to boot from the ubuntu disk
[08:22] <arooni> nothign happens..... ;:(
[08:22] <bruenig> Nippa, except you would need to be there to give it the password
[08:22] <clearzen> Nippa: Can you use hours with that instead of mins?
[08:22] <Nippa> yeah, hours work instead of minutes
[08:22] <arooni> ideas?
[08:22] <bruenig> that command will not work, it will ask you for a password
[08:23] <dawn`chorus> that'd suck.
[08:23] <Nippa> bruenig: well that could be fixed by putting it in a script and sudoing that instead of the shutdown command ... but I guess that takes away some of the simplicity
[08:23] <bruenig> yeah or I suppose you could do sudo bash -c "sleep whatever; shutdown -h now"
[08:23] <colbert> I want to copy my crontab from my Edgy partition over to this Feisty install, where is that located on root ?
[08:24] <bruenig> /etc/crontab
[08:24] <bruenig> or something like that
[08:24] <bruenig> do ls /etc  | grep cron
[08:24] <clearzen> What is the differance between the sudo -i and sudo -s -H commands?
[08:24] <colbert> bruenig: ok it's there
[08:25] <ant-> clearzen, 'man sudo'
[08:25] <bruenig> sudo -i and sudo -s seem identical to me
[08:25] <MR> All done. Thanks
[08:25] <MR> bye
[08:25] <greenboy623> all: i'm looking to build a Ubuntu pc here very soon, i only have experience in OSX and Mandrake 5-9
[08:26] <crdlb> clearzen, sudo -i is like 'su -', and sudo -s is like 'su'
[08:26] <greenboy623> what'll be different in ubuntu if anything?
[08:26] <clearzen> crdlb: thanks
[08:26] <defrysk> greenboy623, easyer packagemanagemnt and more speed
[08:26] <bruenig> less speed
[08:26] <greenboy623> sweet
[08:27] <bruenig> ubuntu is slow amongst the distros
[08:27] <greenboy623> cuz i'm getting sick of mandrake
[08:27] <Tixer> What's a good IRC client with DCC for Ubuntu, that can be administered by SSH?
[08:27] <glick> bruenig, in what way?
[08:27] <defrysk> glick, IN A TROLLING WAY
[08:27] <bruenig> glick, have you tried a lot of other distros
[08:27] <Tixer> Also, how do you enable remote desktop?
[08:27] <defrysk> oops caps
[08:27] <glick> yeha i used to use debian, slackware, and tried fedora
[08:27] <glick> and suse
[08:28] <bruenig> glick, well it is certainly slower then slack
[08:28] <bruenig> fedora and suse are just as bad
[08:28] <glick> in what way?
[08:28] <bruenig> never used debian
[08:28] <greenboy623> suse is a pain in the ass at times
[08:28] <ignignokt> debian = ubuntu
[08:28] <ignignokt> i didn't expect them to be THAT similar
[08:28] <glick> debian != ubuntu
[08:28] <ignignokt> oh cmon
[08:28] <greenboy623> never used debian either
[08:29] <bruenig> it enables everything
[08:29] <ignignokt> i was exaggerating, for what it's worth
[08:29] <bruenig> makes it really slow
[08:29] <glick> bruenig, what do you mean enables everything?
[08:29] <Talaman72> try linux.org
[08:29] <Tixer> Also, how do you enable remote desktop?
[08:29] <bruenig> in terms of compilation
[08:29] <glick> its pretty fast on my computer
[08:29] <tmcks> my issue exactly: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292005
[08:29] <Tixer> I have a server running, that I forgot to enable Remote desktop on, but SSH is active.
[08:29] <jetole_> hey guys
[08:30] <dawn`chorus> !hi | jetole_
[08:30] <ubotu> jetole_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:30] <jetole_> thanks bot and owner
[08:30] <bruenig> glick, fast compared to what, fast being a relative term
[08:30] <bruenig> !thanks | jetole_
[08:30] <ubotu> jetole_: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[08:30] <ALL4N> is it possible to have different resolution on the different workspaces in gnome/xfce?
[08:30] <glick> bruenig, seems like just vague trolling to me
[08:30] <jetole_> lol
[08:30] <jetole_> well that just cheered me up a little
[08:31] <ignignokt> haha
[08:31] <glick> if you want it "faster" you can boot into a shell
[08:31] <jetole_> has anyone been able to get java (from any company) to work in 64bit firefox?
[08:31] <Tixer> How do you enable Remote Desktop over SSH?
[08:31] <clearzen>  Tixer: You can forward X over ssh ssh -X  user@192.0.0.0
[08:31] <jetole_> Tixer, I wouldn't
[08:31] <Tixer> I kinda need to see stuff....
[08:31] <glick> or use a less memory intensive window manager like xubuntu
[08:31] <greenboy623> bruenig, i'm going to be running ubuntu on a 1.6 ghz athlon cpu with a gig of ram
[08:31] <jetole_> Tixer, use vnc
[08:31] <greenboy623> it's not  gonna slug on that is it?
[08:31] <Tixer> It's a mythTV box, and it's not outputting anything over TVout
[08:32] <clearzen> Tixer: -C uses compression and --:1 will change the xsession it runs on
[08:32] <Tixer> I'd use VNC, but I want a really fast way to install it...
[08:32] <Tixer> so what do I type into putty to forward X?
[08:32] <bruenig> greenboy623, depending on your own preferences, it will be fine and usable, others are just faster which is something I am a bit obsessive over
[08:32] <clearzen> Tixer: xvncviewer should work too
[08:32] <Tixer> I need a vnc server
[08:32] <Tixer> I'm on Windows, I need to see what my server is up to.
[08:32] <clearzen> Tixer: It's a bitch with putty
[08:32] <greenboy623> bruenig, i like speed, tho being a poor boy and all, i get used to dealing with slugs
[08:33] <jetole_> Tixer, from a command line try => startx ssh -X server.x.y.z gnome-session -- :1
[08:33] <jetole_> Tixer, from a true terminal
[08:33] <Tixer> Isn't there a way to just activate remote desktop?
[08:33] <jetole_> not a xterm in X
[08:33] <glick> i find ubuntu plenty fast
[08:33] <bruenig> glick, I have used a ridiculous number of distros, and alongside fedora and suse, ubuntu is in the slower groups
[08:33] <clearzen> Tixer: X over ssh is much more secure
[08:33] <Tixer> I don't really care about security
[08:33] <Tixer> This box doesn't go outside.
[08:33] <greenboy623> tixer, how couldn't u?
[08:33] <alecw1> What's the problem running Beryl and Wine together?
[08:33] <jetole_> Tixer, Menu => System => Preferences => Remote Desktop
[08:33] <greenboy623> does it have any wire to any network?
[08:34] <Tixer> jetole_: I on;y have SSH access...
[08:34] <Tixer> it has a wire to MY network
[08:34] <dawn`chorus> i've seen noticeable difference btwn Ubuntu vs. Arch, say, but not Ubuntu vs. Fedora or Suse or Sabayon...
[08:34] <Tixer> where it recieves TV from
[08:34] <Tixer> not from the internet though
[08:34] <J-_> how do I reconfigure X?
[08:34] <Tixer> outside connections are blocked.
[08:34] <greenboy623> ohh ic
[08:35] <dawn`chorus> J-_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:35] <greenboy623> physical disconnection?
[08:35] <Tixer> nah
[08:35] <J-_> now that I fooled around with init, X won't start
[08:35] <clearzen> J-_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:35] <greenboy623> then u should care about security
[08:35] <Tixer> Just router blocks all outbound traffic
[08:35] <Tixer> so no worries.
[08:35] <greenboy623> i dunno
[08:35] <jetole_> Tixer, I just gave you an answer a minute ago
[08:35] <bruenig> J-_, did you figure out your connection issue yet
[08:35] <jetole_> oh...
[08:35] <Tixer> besides, I don't really care, it's a MythTV box
[08:35] <jetole_> well at least to get a remote desktop I did
[08:35] <greenboy623> true
[08:35] <Zeph_> irc.blessed.net
[08:35] <Zeph_> oops
[08:35] <Tixer> Does someone want to steal the copy of House I downloaded?
[08:35] <Zeph_> hehe
[08:36] <Tixer> I don't think so.
[08:36] <greenboy623> i'll take it
[08:36] <jetole_> change to a terminal screen and type => startx ssh -X server.x.y.z gnome-session -- :1
[08:36] <Zeph_> anyone know if there is a sync tool for ubuntu?
[08:36] <greenboy623> never seen it, but hellz yes, i'll take it
[08:36] <dawn`chorus> J-_, you mean X won't start on boot or X won't start at all?
[08:36] <Zeph_> for pocket pc's
[08:36] <jetole_> so no one on here has java working for 64 bit firefox?
[08:36] <Tixer> jetole: I'm using Putty to connect.
[08:36] <J-_> clearzen: no i haven't, I tried to change my xsession, and I guess i fooled around with the wrong thing.
[08:36] <bruenig> jetole_, few people use 64 bit, it is kind of pointless
[08:37] <Tixer> jetole: startx ssh won't work.
[08:37] <J-_> er
[08:37] <J-_> whoops
[08:37] <_Ahti> Its a stupid place to ask this, but what would be the best Linux distribution aside from Ubuntu? Ubuntu broke down on me for the last time :P (Really broke) I don't require a "easy-to-use" distro, but i'd like one with good hardware detection and with stable software :)
[08:37] <J-_> ment bruenig
[08:37] <jetole_> Tixer, then you have bigger problems, lol
[08:37] <jetole_> bruenig, why?
[08:37] <bruenig> jetole_, what is the point of using it?
[08:37] <greenboy623> _ahti: i've used debian before, and it's pretty solid
[08:37] <Tixer> why do I have bigger problems?
[08:37] <dawn`chorus> _Ahti, Fedora, OpenSuSE, PCLinuxOS
[08:37] <glick> broke in what way?
[08:38] <bruenig> unless you need some big floating point numbers, there is very little performance boost
[08:38] <MR> Hi, Is there a way to change from the amd64 to the normal i386 version?
[08:38] <kravlin> if i want to test my hard drive for problems using SMART and i have smartmontools what modifiers do i want to add?
[08:38] <bruenig> MR, reinstall
[08:38] <jetole_> bruenig, because 64 bit processing is faster then 32bit by using larger data paths and performing higher math computations per cpu cycle
[08:38] <greenboy623> and if u really wanna get into the thick of it you can look at gentoo lol
[08:38] <bruenig> jetole_, it is very small
[08:38] <MR> bruenig: is it possible to update the souce list, and do dist-upgrade
[08:38] <bruenig> jetole_, at least as it is applied now
[08:38] <greenboy623> my g-d i've never seen a longer install process
[08:38] <dawn`chorus> greenboy623, +1
[08:39] <bruenig> jetole_, certainly theoretically it is far better, but no one really takes advantage of it so you don't get much boost
[08:39] <J-_> dawn`chorus: boot, xdm comes up, I type in my password, and it just hangs, then goes back to gdm. I went to a tty, tried to log in and it was successful
[08:39] <bruenig> MR, no it isn't
[08:39] <Tixer> why do I have bigger problems if I'm using putty??
[08:39] <glick> how did ubuntu break?
[08:39] <_Ahti> I've had the weirdest issues with Gentoo... I can't get the X server run AT ALL! Freaky bastard
[08:39] <J-_> xdm**
[08:39] <jetole_> bruenig, java is the only thing not working on this at the moment and on my 32 bit installation on a 64 bit server I own there are a few apps I am having trouble with
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[08:39] <bruenig> jetole_, well for server maybe
[08:39] <bruenig> !ops
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[08:39] <rucarrot> I met a dpkg error when I upgrade my os from drapper to edgy. the volumeid can't pass by the error: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/volumeid_093-0ubuntu18_i386.deb (--install):
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[08:39] <greenboy623> not as bad as my issues
[08:40] <kravlin>  if i want to test my hard drive for problems using SMART and i have smartmontools what modifiers do i want to add?
[08:40] <greenboy623> half of the time when installing i can't chroot into the system to finish setup
[08:40] <MR> bruenig: Ok Thank you
[08:40] <jetole_> actually my mistake, that wasn't a server I was refering to, I do have a 64 bit server I run but it has no X let alone firefox ;)
[08:40] <dawn`chorus> J-_, did you change the xdm script?
[08:40] <bruenig> jetole_, for desktop computing, I couldn't tell any difference
[08:41] <dawn`chorus> J-_, what -did- you do?
[08:41] <J-_> dawn`chorus: I don't think so, I was fooling around in .fluxbox, trying to get init working so nm-applet would run once the computer restarts
[08:41] <randoman__> anyone know what package i would need If i get this
[08:41] <randoman__>  checking for headers required to compile python extensions... not found
[08:41] <bruenig> python-dev
[08:41] <bruenig> or something like that
[08:41] <jetole_> bruenig, the difference is there, If I compile two hello worlds against 64bit and 32bit apps the difference is there, but that aside, there are more apps I could not run with 32bit on a 64bit
[08:41] <randoman__> k ill check it out
[08:41] <J-_> it was either my home directory, or in .fluxbox. where init and .init is.
[08:42] <bruenig> randoman__, apt-cache search python | grep dev
[08:42] <jetole_> *libs
[08:42] <dawn`chorus> J-_, that's beyond me, man.  you'll have to expand upon "fooling around".  :)
[08:42] <greenboy623> outta here, gotta apply an osx update
[08:42] <randoman__> thanks
[08:42] <kravlin>  if i want to test my hard drive for problems using SMART and i have smartmontools what modifiers do i want to add?
[08:42] <randoman__> python-dev
[08:42] <randoman__> worked
[08:42] <randoman__> but ill do that
[08:42] <J-_> dawn`chorus: lol, guess that's what I get for fooling around >.> =(
[08:42] <J-_> gonna try and reconfigure X
[08:43] <dawn`chorus> J-_, if X starts, but not on boot, that's probably not the issue.
[08:43] <ziroday> rando
[08:43] <randoman__> yes
[08:43] <ziroday> randoman__: what package?
[08:43] <randoman__> humm
[08:43] <J-_> dawn`chorus: k, if xdm starts, would that mean X has started?
[08:43] <randoman__> i installed python-dev and it seems to be working
[08:43] <Frogzoo> kravlin: read the docs in /usr/share/doc/smartmontools/
[08:43] <randoman__> its installing
[08:43] <Tixer> How do you enable default remote desktop over SSH?
[08:43] <ziroday> randoman__: ok then
[08:44] <kravlin>  if i want to test my hard drive for problems using SMART and i have smartmontools what modifiers do i want to add?
[08:44] <randoman__> thanks for the help guys
[08:44] <Zeph_> i need a sync tool for pocket pc ubuntu what would u reccomend i use?
[08:44] <bruenig> sync?
[08:45] <MR> bruenig: When i restart my computer with the desktop cd and choose install, i get heaps of errors and then the terminal. How can i load the GUI interface?
[08:45] <dawn`chorus> J-_, that's a good question.  i've seen X die both before and after gdm.  i've had weird looking gdm screens, and fine gnome screens.
[08:45] <randoman__> greatly appreciated
[08:45] <magnethead> Simple question: What does the "sigmatel output bias" switch do in alsa mixer?
[08:45] <bruenig> MR, there might be some problem with your disk, try getting another one
[08:45] <Zeph_> bruenig: like sync music onto the 1gb card
[08:45] <Zeph_> on my pocket pc
[08:45] <nenolod> installed ubuntu feisty with debootstrap
[08:45] <bruenig> Zeph_, you can't just copy it over
[08:45] <ziroday> Zeph_: rsync
[08:45] <randoman__> but now i can continue installing gnome2.18.2
[08:45] <nenolod> but i get /usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:45] <nenolod> how do i fix it in ubuntu, my method for fixing it in debian does not work
[08:45] <MR> bruenig: ok, brb
[08:46] <bruenig> oh rsync then, I get what you mean
[08:46] <magnethead> and is there a way i can change the front/rear balance of my surround sound (currently running using the 4 channel stereo option)
[08:46] <_Ahti> Hmm... Would installing a liveCD distro have any... well... say i installed SLAX on my laptop's hard-drive... Would that work like, say Ubuntu on my harddrive?
[08:47] <arooni> hey folks,i installed ubuntu 7.04 from the livecd.. but when i go to boot up.... nothing happens
[08:47] <dawn`chorus> arooni, do you get GRUB screen?
[08:47] <ziroday> arooni: specify nothing, do you get to grub?
[08:47] <tonsofpcs> arooni: did you install a bootloader? was your bios 'mbr protect' enabled?
[08:47] <dawn`chorus> phew.
[08:48] <arooni> i see "Verifiying DMI Pool Data .................." thats it
[08:48] <arooni> i told bios to boot from that hard drive too
[08:48] <J-_> dawn`chorus: cool
[08:48] <arooni> so i dont think there would be a grub
[08:48] <arooni> or i didnt get there at least
[08:48] <arooni> tonsofpcs: i just used live cd
[08:48] <J-_> oh noes, I did something to mess err something up! I deleted the init thinger and flux isn't booting up heh! =(
[08:49] <arooni> so if it installed a bootloader, then one was.... otherwise no
[08:49] <arooni> and i have no idea if my bios is mbr protect enabled
[08:49] <J-_> thank goodness for mc!
[08:49] <dawn`chorus> J-_, one way to test.  get to tty.  and then, X --config /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:49] <J-_> but.. yeah!
[08:49] <J-_> thanks
[08:50] <Tixer> How do you enable default remote desktop over SSH?
[08:50] <dawn`chorus> J-_, you in irssi?
[08:50] <magnethead> Simple question: What does the "sigmatel output bias" switch do in alsa mixer?
[08:51] <J-_> dawn`chorus: yes
[08:51] <J-_> on my desktop
[08:51] <J-_> not on the server
[08:51] <colbert> How do I get my mounted drives to not show on my desktop /?
[08:52] <_Ahti> Is installing a distro intended as a liveCD "only" generally a smart idea? Say i was installing SLAX on my harddrive?
[08:53] <dawn`chorus> colbert,  System Tools > Conf' Editor > Apps > Nautilus > Desktop.
[08:53] <J-_> fatal server error, then on another line below; unrecognized option --config
[08:53] <dawn`chorus> an easier way?
[08:53] <colbert> thx
[08:54] <dawn`chorus> J-_, oh.  not two -'s.  just one.  -config.  X -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:54] <imbecile_> hahahahahaha.. I found something on digg you guys might think is funny http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=www.linuxsucks.org
[08:54] <ziroday> imbecile_: you actually seen the site?
[08:54] <MISTERTibbs> linuxsux has what, 100 registered users??
[08:55] <MISTERTibbs> Linuxsux runs on ~ ~ ~ Linux!
[08:55] <_Ahti> MISTERTibbs: Lol, i read that too, hilarious.
[08:55] <imbecile_> MISTERTibbs,  thats the funny part
[08:55] <ziroday> have any of u ACTUALLY gone to the site
[08:55] <MISTERTibbs> ziroday, yes
[08:56] <ziroday> MISTERTibbs: its pro linux
[08:56] <imbecile_> ziroday,  yeah those freaks took down the posts telling that it runs on linux
[08:56] <ziroday> read some of thier articles
[08:56] <MISTERTibbs> ziroday, ???
[08:56] <gnomefreak> guys please stay on topic
[08:56] <MISTERTibbs> ziroday, I admit I only read the posts
[08:57] <A_b> lost but entertained :)
[08:57] <J-_> dawn`chorus: yeah still fatal error. Think I'm going to remove nm-applet or network-manager-gnome. and see what that does.
[08:58] <dawn`chorus> J-_, watch that work like a charm!
[08:58] <dawn`chorus> what's the topic again?
[08:58] <dawn`chorus> oh.  *buntu
[09:00] <novato_br> how can I keep app on only desktop ( beryl )?
[09:00] <J-_> woah sorry
[09:00] <J-_> =|
[09:01] <J-_> yeah network-manager-gnome didn't do it! heh
[09:01] <linxuz3r> anyone using Compiz or beryl and running vmware?
[09:01] <gonzoism> J-_ what server is it ?
[09:02] <pr4bh> why cant touchpad on ubuntu cant behave like it does in windows? :s
[09:02] <pr4bh> thats the only thing that is making me miss windows apart from that im happy with ubuntu
[09:02] <gonzoism> pr4bh like scroll on the side ?
[09:03] <joe3> i have a pc with a pci card and an onboard video when i boot w/ the pci attachment everything displays fine during boot until it tries to load X, then i get a blank screen, if i use the mobo connector then i boot into ubuntu fine, i can't turn the mobo graphix off in the bios, do you think i have a hardware problem or a problem with ubuntu?
[09:03] <novato_br> in beryl, when I change desktop, it show on another desktop my app minimized, how can I do it's not show it on another desktop?
[09:03] <gonzoism> pr4bh and recognize 2 fingers ?
[09:03] <ericrw> pr4bh, there is a program to control the trackpad
[09:03] <pr4bh> yeah?
[09:03] <ericrw> pr4bh, I use it to disable all those stupid "features"
[09:03] <pr4bh> gsynaptics?
[09:03] <gonzoism> pr4bh synaptics
[09:04] <ericrw> pr4bh, there qtsynaptics as well (maybe a different name?)  that i think is a lot better (and I'm a gnome user)
[09:04] <pr4bh> oh ok ericrw
[09:04] <pr4bh> ill give it a spin and come back
[09:04] <pr4bh> thanks :)
[09:05] <ericrw> the package is qsynaptics
[09:05] <pr4bh> yeah, installing it now :)
[09:05] <Tixer> Success! I've finally finished coding something!
[09:05] <pr4bh> i hope it doesnt cause any conflict with the main mouse setting app in gnome
[09:06] <Tixer> I have found a way to prevent a web site from being banned!
[09:06] <gonzoism> Tixer  name it tor
[09:06] <Tixer> I've done better
[09:07] <J-_> 'waiting for x server to shutdown freefontpath blah blah, recount is 2; should be 1:fixing.' then xinit: unexpected signal 1
[09:07] <gonzoism> Tixer did ya name it freenet ?
[09:07] <Tixer> I found a way to prevent a web site I run from being banned by any country
[09:07] <Tixer> And I did it for the cost of nothing
[09:07] <pr4bh> hmm, qsynaptics still wouldnt provide more acceleration
[09:07] <Tixer> I'ts pretty awesome
[09:07] <Tixer> I tied my site into like, 20 popular sites
[09:08] <glick> has anyone played civ4 on ubuntu/winex?
[09:08] <Tixer> they'd have to ban those to take out my site :)
[09:08] <gonzoism> Tixer  no, they wouldn't.  sorry.
[09:09] <joe3> when i try to load from a graphics card into X i get a blank screen but the mobo card is working fine, how do I configure X to work?
[09:10] <alecw1> Tixar
[09:10] <alecw1> Tixer*
[09:10] <alecw1> are you tehre/
[09:11] <Tixer> yeah
[09:11] <alecw1> what did you do with your site? :)
[09:11] <J-_> that was fun, reconfigured X and it is, now working! =D thanks but my menu is gone! =(
[09:11] <Tixer> I have a script that drops my dynamic IP nightly, and gets a new one
[09:11] <A_b> Tixer, in my old comp studies- a way in leaves a way out :)
[09:11] <alecw1> What for? :P
[09:11] <J-_> no custom fluxbox menu =(
[09:11] <J-_> ah well
[09:12] <Tixer> It then emails a few hotmail / gmail / yahoo accounts, posts on Wikipedia, and a bunch of other shit.
[09:12] <Tixer> To get TO said IP, you need to log in.
[09:12] <alecw1> wow.
[09:12] <Tixer> Since it's email accounts :)
[09:12] <Tixer> Noone can ban it if they don't know the IP
[09:12] <alecw1> Running something illegally? :P
[09:12] <Tixer> and they're not going to knock out every webmail provider
[09:12] <Tixer> Think a massive torrent farm :)
[09:12] <J-_> !ohmy Tixer
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy tixer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <hideandseek> I have no sound :(.  I made sure the correct sound card was selected in my sound preferences.  Also, I can hear sound when ubuntu starts up, just not when I'm in ubuntu
[09:12] <gnomefreak> Tixer alecw1 please move it over to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:13] <joe3> I'm really trying to get help configuring X, it works fine with my mobo video card, but not my pci card help?
[09:13] <gordonjcp> Tixer: everyone can design a security system they can't see any way to break
[09:14] <gonzoism> joe3  did you disable the mobo card ?
[09:14] <gonzoism> joe3  either with software or with a jumper ?
[09:15] <gonzoism> joe3 software being the bios
[09:15] <gnomefreak> joe3: make sure you are using the right busID
[09:16] <Tixer> gordonjcp: Find a way to break my security then :)
[09:16] <gordonjcp> Tixer: I have
[09:16] <Tixer> and?
[09:16] <Tixer> what is it?
[09:17] <Tixer> Enlighten.
[09:17] <A_b> well Tixer could it be that you have established a set time release of ip?
[09:18] <Tixer> And?
[09:18] <gordonjcp> Tixer: hint - how do other people find out what the new IP or hostname is?
[09:18] <Tixer> By checking an email?
[09:18] <A_b> so ip is identifiable and traceable within a time span
[09:18] <dosage> This sounds like a good chat, what is the main question being asked?
[09:19] <Tixer> IP isn't IDable or tracable
[09:19] <dosage> thats the statement?
[09:19] <dosage> that you cant trace an IP?
[09:19] <gordonjcp> 08:18 < Tixer> IP isn't IDable or tracable
[09:19] <gordonjcp> er, what?
[09:19] <Tixer> move discussion to #randomness plzkthx.
[09:19] <gordonjcp> Tixer: -> #ubuntu-offtopic ;-)
[09:19] <gnomefreak> gordonjcp: join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue
[09:20] <gordonjcp> gnomefreak: way ahead of you
[09:20] <joe3> I've tried lspci and it's listing my "chipset graphics controller" (i'm guessing that's the mobo video controller" and my ATI card how do i get X to just use the ati card?
[09:22] <GrubChub> http://www.ionpixel.com/browser_speed.php
[09:23] <gonzoism> joe3 i think you have to tell it the bus id  or something.  identify it to X by its numbers
[09:23] <gonzoism> joe3  you can see in the X log where it talks about it
[09:23] <joe3> i'm not sure how to tell this to x because the newest version doesn't have an xorg.conf file?
[09:24] <joe3> is there an autoconfigure option for X?
[09:25] <gonzoism> joe3 no xorg.conf ?  are you sure ?
[09:25] <gonzoism> joe3  is it ubuntu ?
[09:25] <joe3> I'm using feisty, newest update, it should be in etc/xorg right?
[09:25] <dawn`chorus> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:26] <mcmx_> Hi i have a problem, when using home directories on an nfs4 share i get a problem when a new user logs on pam_mkhomedir creates the home directory with user nobody then the logging on user has no permissions, any help would be great, cheers
[09:26] <gonzoism> joe3 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:26] <hume> hi....is there an audio recorder in ubuntu that can record line in audio directly to mp3 or ogg?
[09:26] <gonzoism> hume audacity is pretty good.
[09:26] <LeoDioxide> hume: you have to encode it, but audacity does that =] 
[09:27] <hume> i do use audacity, but would prefer something that did not first record as wav, then encode - I have a looot of sound, takes large amout of disk space and processor power....
[09:28] <gonzoism> hume i think it can encode on the fly
[09:28] <hume> hrm
[09:28] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: why not give user nobody permissions?
[09:28] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: also, you can specify which user samba uses in the /etc/samba/****.conf file
[09:28] <LeoDioxide> for default
[09:29] <mcmx_> all the users are stored in ldap if that makes a difference
[09:30] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: can you explain your setup for me?
[09:31] <mcmx_> yeah, i have a server running LDAP and another running nfs4. clients authenticate against ldap to logon, nfs home directories are mounted from the server
[09:31] <mcmx_> all ubuntu edgy
[09:32] <mcmx_> pam_mkhomedir is supposed to create the home directory on the share properly but just creates it with user nobody
[09:32] <melchior7> whats the command to get unix time? (seconds since 1970)
[09:32] <pixelation> I need help remembering the name of a program.
[09:33] <LeoDioxide> melchior7: date?
[09:33] <Ireal> melchior7: date +%s
[09:33] <LeoDioxide> ah
[09:33] <melchior7> leo/Ireal, thanks
[09:33] <gonzoism> pixelation   gimp ?
[09:33] <mcmx_> LeoDioxide: any better?
[09:33] <gonzoism> pixelation   xtree ?
[09:33] <pixelation> It was basically like the add/remove programs.. You could browse by genre of download (media, utility etc).
[09:34] <joe3> alright, i found xorg.conf and see that it is pointing to the wrong bus id, i can see the bus id in lspci, where do i look up the driver for an ati radeon 9200 pro?
[09:34] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: yeah, lemme find an answer for you
[09:34] <J-_> =(
[09:34] <joe3> is there an autoconfig option for xorg?
[09:34] <Flannel> pixelation: That still doesn't narrow it down a whole lot.  More details.  GUI? textmode? what else?
[09:35] <ubuntero> hola
[09:35] <Ireal> a hola
[09:35] <Ireal> aloha*
[09:35] <gonzoism> pixelation synaptic ?
[09:35] <pixelation> GUI, there was a side bar, and you would click the type of downloads you wanted to browse. You would put checkmarks next to the items you wanted to download. And then when ready you would hit the green checkmark at the top and the downloads would start.
[09:35] <Flannel> pixelation: synaptic package manager.
[09:35] <ruperto652> hola
[09:36] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: it seems to me that unless pam_mkhomedir is failing horribly, all your users are being bounced back as the default login
[09:36] <pixelation> I don't think it was that.
[09:36] <gonzoism> pixelation or was it in kde ?  adept ?
[09:36] <Flannel> pixelation: system > admin > Synaptic package manager.  It was.  Is.  gnome or kde or what?
[09:36] <mcmx_> LeoDioxide: any suggestions?
[09:36] <pixelation> I recall it starting with a 'x'. It wasn't adept. It might've been in gnome.
[09:37] <Flannel> pixelation: it's synaptic.  Go check it out, youll see.
[09:37] <gonzoism> pixelation run the synaptic command
[09:37] <pixelation> That isn't it.
[09:37] <pixelation> The other program had icons instead of text.
[09:37] <pixelation> It started with an 'x'.
[09:38] <gonzoism> pixelation is it currently installed ?
[09:38] <pixelation> It was.
[09:38] <pixelation> Now it isn't.
[09:38] <gonzoism> pixelation do you have any reason to believe it might not be now ?
[09:38] <gonzoism> pixelation ah
[09:38] <Flannel> pixelation: it's automatix.  You don't want to use it.  It breaks systems.
[09:38] <pixelation> O rly?
[09:39] <Flannel> http://linuxfud.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/automatix2.png  looks like that?
[09:39] <nrdb> I installed the odbc-postgresql package, but when I start OpenOffice Database connection wizard it says libodbc.so.1 and there isn't, there is a libodbcinst.so.1 how do I fix this ?
[09:39] <pixelation> Yeah that was it.
[09:39] <pixelation> Automatix.
[09:39] <DjViper> pixelation: smartass comments are lame...
[09:39] <Flannel> pixelation: yeah.  That breaks your system.  You don't want to use it.
[09:39] <gonzoism> pixelation i use it.  every time.  i like it.  i don't understand why other people hate it.
[09:39] <Flannel> gonzoism: because it breaks things
[09:39] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: check the config on the ldap server, and make sure its logging into the nfs with the users instead of nobody
[09:39] <pixelation> DjViper: no really it is.
[09:40] <hume> gonzoism, got any idea on how to make audacity encode as mp3 on the fly?
[09:40] <mcmx_> LeoDioxide: Logging into the nfs?
[09:40] <pixelation> Thank you room.
[09:41] <gonzoism> hume  i'll check
[09:41] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: sounds like you have one server with LDAP, another with your filesystems and directories, and the third being the user
[09:42] <hideandseek> Hi, is there a way to force screen resolutions?  My max screen revolution right now is 800x600 and my monitor supports much higher than that.
[09:42] <LeoDioxide> users tries to login to home directory, server #2 goes to the ldap, authenticates, ldap says "great, give him a default user account"
[09:43] <mcmx_> LeoDioxide: yeah, well thats the plan
[09:43] <gonzoism> hume k
[09:43] <gonzoism> hume record your sounds/voice then export as mp3.
[09:43] <mcmx_> home directories are mounted through fstab straight to /home from the fileserver
[09:43] <gonzoism> hume its in the first dropdown menu
[09:44] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: so either the LDAP server is seeing nobody and assigning everyone a default account, or samba is just failing to use the LDAP server and using the default account
[09:44] <mcmx_> there is no samba in use the client machines are ubuntu
[09:44] <gonzoism> hume  see it ?
[09:44] <hume> gonzoism, ok, but then it saves it temporarily as another, larger, format.... until encoded as mp3. but i'll guess that's what i need to do
[09:45] <LeoDioxide> oh, it's not that kind of plugin...
[09:45] <hume> right now i ran into a problem: it cannot play sound, there is a problem with audio device... you know how to find out which device to use?
[09:46] <hideandseek> !resolution
[09:46] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:48] <jetscreamer> !info hwinfo
[09:48] <ubotu> hwinfo: Hardware identification system. In component universe, is optional. Version 13.11-3 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 108 kB
[09:48] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: I dunno man, turn off the default account, and see if the LDAP logs show anyone even logging in
[09:49] <andreas_> Hi. Can someone please help me install some fonts that I have downloaded?
[09:49] <Flannel> !fonts | andreas_
[09:49] <ubotu> andreas_: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:49] <Ausicaemia> I'll ask again now
[09:50] <Ausicaemia> Does anybody know why my startup entries get reset on reboot? Is there are a way to edit the file directly or something?
[09:50] <Ausicaemia> Forum thread for more specific details: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=483699
[09:50] <usuario_> ola
[09:50] <jessid> hello. I would like to put my laptop to hibernate and in theory it can, but when i try to "restore" it (dont know how to call that process) it never starts again. i have to turn it off (pushing the power button during 5 secs)and turn it on again... Is is possible to fix that and make the hybernation work well???  Thanks a lot!!!
[09:50] <usuario_> q pasa
[09:50] <usuario_> ???
[09:51] <andreas_> Flannel:Thanks
[09:52] <jpwoods> quit
[09:53] <marfeath> is it possible to cat a virtual terminal's stdout? (i'm ssh'ed on a box and I want to read the contents of another terminal)
[09:53] <gonzoism> lots of joiners
[09:53] <matason> Hi, I plugged in a usb keyboard last week for an hour or so and ever since my laptop has num-lock on by default - any ideas? I'm running Gnome on Ubuntu 7.04
[09:54] <osphy> any how-to for xgl on feisty fawn.
[09:54] <kuzmaster> hey everyone
[09:54] <marfeath> !compiz | osphy
[09:54] <ubotu> osphy: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:54] <kuzmaster> !ntfs
[09:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:54] <gonzoism> matason i think there is an option for that in the menu.  under user pref.'s  keyboard maybe
[09:54] <kuzmaster> !fuse
[09:54] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:55] <Flannel> !ntfs-3g
[09:55] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[09:55] <kuzmaster> !ntfs-3g
[09:55] <matason> gonzoism: thanks I'll check it out
[09:55] <mitrovarr> anyone know how to get rid of the redirect that makes the kernel load the nvidia_new module when you try to load the nvidia one?
[09:55] <Flannel> use ntfs-3g, it's built-in on feisty (just have to enable it)
[09:56] <hideandseek> !beryl
[09:56] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:56] <someone2005> ok I'm confused does ubuntu use Motif or GTK ?
[09:56] <mitrovarr> I accidentally installed the nvidia-glx-new package and now it refuses to let me use the regular nvidia driver
[09:57] <tritium> someone2005: gnome uses GTK.  Very little uses Motif any more.
[09:57] <hume> gonzoism, i got a problem in audacity with playback, it seems it cannot play through the alsa device set in preferences, but I cannot change it. You know how to manage this?
[09:57] <someone2005> ok thanks I'll give that a try...
[09:58] <kuzmaster> how safe is it to use ntfs-3g on ubuntu to rename files on ntfs drives?
[09:58] <marfeath> kuzmaster: I use it on a regular basis, if it is just xp you are fine
[09:58] <kuzmaster> thanks
[09:59] <wigfreitz> whats the ubuntu mozilla room? I cant find it
[09:59] <marfeath> no problem
[09:59] <Tom47> marfeath: you may find yr answer amongst this lot ... http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/submitted/handle_terminal_output.jsp
[09:59] <marfeath> Tom47: thanks!
[10:00] <Flannel> wigfreitz: that'd be because there isn't one
[10:01] <matason> gonzoism: Couldn't see any specific setting regarding num-lock on boot, I know KDE has this option from my googling
[10:01] <matason> And there's plenty of instructions of how to get num-lock on by default!
[10:01] <wigfreitz> Flannel: there bloody is
[10:02] <Flannel> wigfreitz: no, there isn't.  This is the channel where you'd ask Ubuntu questions that have to do with FF/seamonkey/et al.
[10:02] <wigfreitz> Flannel, you talk poo mate #ubuntu-mozillateam
[10:04] <mitrovarr> well, I managed to extract a solution to the nvidia_new thing from google.  Anyone interested?
[10:04] <jetscreamer> what is an nvidia_new thing
[10:05] <mitrovarr> well, I installed nvidia-glx-new by mistake since I thought I have a geforce 6 in here but it's really a 4
[10:05] <jetscreamer> o
[10:05] <mitrovarr> but no matter what I did, it refused to load module nvidia from nvidia-glx instead
[10:05] <mitrovarr> even despite doing a complete removal of nvidia-glx-new
[10:06] <mitrovarr> there's a hidden file in /lib/linux-restricted-modules that redirects it.  Get rid of it and it's fixed
[10:06] <mitrovarr> it apparently happens with nvidia-glx-legacy too
[10:06] <mitrovarr> well, i'm rebooting
[10:08] <kuzmaster> !ntfs
[10:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[10:10] <dosage> Having random ubunto lockup issues, is there a good channel to ask some questions in?
[10:10] <dosage> Ubuntu*
[10:10] <LeoDioxide> why yes, yes it is!
[10:10] <enviouz> dosage:  like x crashing or something else?
[10:11] <dosage> Total Freeze, no mouse, no keyboard, no interation at all
[10:11] <dosage> Power button is the only solution
[10:11] <enviouz> i seen that happen only once before
[10:11] <enviouz> ati graphics?
[10:11] <dosage> yeah
[10:11] <marcin__> dddd
[10:11] <MISTERTibbs> dosage, dmesg|more will give you a log
[10:12] <mcmx_> LeoDioxide: It appears i cannot change ownership of a file on any nfsv4 share even if the permissions permit this, it works fine on the local file system, any ideas on that?
[10:12] <enviouz> using restricted driver?
[10:12] <dosage> default ati drivers
[10:12] <mcmx_> That would be a cause of the home directory prob
[10:12] <enviouz> ahh ic nvm
[10:13] <enviouz> i asked becaus ethe old ati restricted driver was bugged
[10:13] <dosage> I was thinking about switching to the drivers provided by ATI, but I am ... scared
[10:13] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: that is interesting, can you login as root and try?
[10:13] <crazed> :)
[10:14] <yo2k> !wine
[10:14] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:14] <crazed> i <3 ubuntu
[10:14] <mcmx_> LeoDioxide: i am trying to change permissions as root no avail. its nfsv3 sorry
[10:14] <crazed> this channel makes me happy :
[10:14] <dosage> I thought it might be my use of compiz, but I get the same random lockups with and without
[10:14] <hideandseek> How do I add more workspaces?
[10:15] <enviouz> dosage:  dont switch to the ati driver from the repo. its bugged. i have a link to the new packages but they never will be put in the repos
[10:15] <LeoDioxide> mcmx_: are the filesystems mounted read-only?  I know that over a network sometimes you won't get errors
[10:16] <matason> hideandseek: There may be other ways but this is how I know, add a workspace switcher to a panel then right-click and choose prefs, there's an option for number of workspaces there
[10:16] <dosage> Why not?
[10:16] <mcmx_> no my options in exports is (rw,sync) i can create directories on the share ok
[10:16] <mcmx_> and they do belong to the user once created but try and chown it to another user it fails
[10:16] <dosage> alright, I might be on the wrong page ... I am using the drivers that are part of the base text based install
[10:17] <mcmx_> permission denied
[10:17] <LeoDioxide> permission denied as root, I've never heard of it
[10:17] <dosage> should I look for something that is newer?
[10:17] <jepes> where can i find  a big list of supported printers? i would like to use the list as a reference for selling pc's with ubuntu installed.
[10:17] <enviouz> dosage:  those are the open source drivers right?
[10:17] <dosage> yes I am retty sure
[10:18] <gonzoism> LeoDioxide sometimes you get those when trying to delete files with the immutable attribute.  (lsattr  or chattr +i filename.txt)
[10:18] <yo2k> !cups
[10:18] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:18] <enviouz> ok idk about them ones. i only use the closed drivers
[10:18] <dosage> The only restricted drivers I am using would be the atheros for my wifi
[10:18] <mcmx_> LeoDioxide: i know i cant get my head round it lol
[10:18] <gonzoism> mcmx_ are you deleting ?
[10:19] <dosage> I have an older ati card though, the forums seem to conclude I sould continue with the default open drivers
[10:19] <yo2k> !cups | jepes
[10:19] <ubotu> jepes: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:19] <enviouz> dosage:  ati rage by chance?
[10:19] <dosage> mobility 9100
[10:19] <MadMax75adsl> o?
[10:19] <dosage> <-- on a laptop
[10:20] <mcmx_> gonzoism: yeah  and its still creating directories as nobody
[10:20] <gonzoism> !ati | gonzoism
[10:20] <jepes> thanks
[10:20] <enviouz> i dont know much about ati's numbering. how old is it?
[10:20] <gonzoism> mcmx_ does lsof | grep dirname show anything ?
[10:20] <dosage> 2 years or so
[10:20] <MrOtacon> hey guys - is there anyway i can add myself as a root so that i don't have to type in a password when i sudo stuff?
[10:21] <MrOtacon> i added myself to sudoers through "sudo visudo"
[10:21] <mcmx_> gonzoism: nope
[10:21] <MrOtacon> and added my user as a root with "sudo adduser me root"
[10:21] <gonzoism> MrOtacon yeah, there is a sudoers group or something in the config in the menu
[10:21] <GeekMaster1> I'm back
[10:21] <GeekMaster1> Wondering if there was anyone else that was experienced with VMWare that I haven't talked to yet.
[10:22] <enviouz> idk why they would suggest that. maybe the closed drivers dont support that exact card
[10:22] <dosage> enviouz: you thinking the issues might be video card related?
[10:22] <GeekMaster1> I'm having a real hard time making my VMWare with Vista 32 bit Home Premium installed on my Ubuntu Feisty seamless as if it's a part of Ubuntu as I have seen on other guides and posts.
[10:22] <GeekMaster1> So far what I've done is:
[10:22] <GeekMaster1> -Install RDesktop
[10:22] <GeekMaster1> -Install Vista (Home Premium 32 bit) on VMWare
[10:22] <GeekMaster1> -InstallVMWare Tools on my Vista (Home Premium 32 bit) VM
[10:22] <MrOtacon> gonzoism: I cant find that man - would chaning my main group to root work? also - do i have to change uid?
[10:22] <enviouz> idk much about the open drivers but it may be.
[10:23] <gonzoism> MrOtacon  see the user admin thing in the menu ?  are you in gnome ?
[10:23] <enviouz> let me check once and see if the closed drivers support taht card
[10:23] <MrOtacon> gonzoism: yeah - im in gnome - admin>users n groups
[10:23] <gonzoism> MrOtacon   you just have to add yourself to the sudoers group
[10:24] <dosage> Thanks env, loving ubuntu, but the lockups are getting to me
[10:24] <milestone> Hi all
[10:24] <GeekMaster1> If ANYONE can help me please contact me at : AIM: danielmichel0101 Yahoo~: danielmichel0101 MSN: danielmichel0101@hotmail.com ICQ: 488336961 GTalk: xcingix@gmail.com
[10:24] <MrOtacon> gonzoism: thats the thing - there isn't a sudoers group
[10:24] <Ind[y] > I have installed openssh-server. How do I use it? Through which command?
[10:24] <gonzoism> MrOtacon ah.  weird. i somehow added my dad to it the other day.
[10:24] <gonzoism> MrOtacon feisty
[10:24] <MrOtacon> gonzoism: yeah
[10:24] <gonzoism> MrOtacon maybe a root group then
[10:24] <yo2k> Ind[y] : man ssh
[10:25] <milestone> I have an edgy servcer to which I only have ssh access. Now I want to remotely configure software raid 1. I found a howto for the process for red hat, which should be easily adaptable
[10:25] <JP> i have uninstalled a lot of evolution, but now i have also uninstalled some thing like gnome panel so my gnome has no taskbar anymore...
[10:25] <Peppery> Noob question but how do I cp a bunch of directories to the current one?
[10:25] <MrOtacon> yeah - there is root group... i just changed myself to it - hopefully it'll work.. let me reoot to try :)
[10:25] <Peppery> I get errors about it omitting directories.
[10:25] <hehellp> hi
[10:25] <milestone> looking at /etc/fstab I see lines starting with UUID is that a label or what is that?
[10:25] <hehellp> how can i solve this when i boot this 7.04 live cd it asks for username and password?
[10:25] <MrOtacon> also - the shutdown -P command just halts my comp instead of shutting it down... does anyone know why this is? apci is enabled in the bios
[10:25] <yo2k> Peppery: man cp
[10:25] <hideandseek> how do I find out if my Nvidia drivers are up to date?
[10:26] <hehellp> what causes this to ask for username and password?
[10:27] <Peppery> yo2k: Thats not helpful.
[10:27] <gonzoism> hideandseek  glxinfo |grep irect    does it say Yes ?
[10:28] <KingMoila> !ati
[10:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:28] <milestone> the raid howto is available via http://togami.com/~warren/guides/remoteraidcrazies/
[10:28] <hideandseek> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:28] <hideandseek> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:28] <hideandseek> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:28] <hideandseek> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[10:28] <stewraz> can i get some help please, i have just switched out to ubuntu, from windows. i am tryying to get some torrents downloading, however they seem to go very slow when i compare it to what i was getting through XP. i have changed the port to something and made sure it is open in the router
[10:28] <yo2k> Peppery: you mean cp = copy ?
[10:28] <stewraz> any thoughts
[10:28] <milestone> any help is highly appreciated
[10:29] <gonzoism> stewraz try a popular torrent, and let it go for a little while to make enough connections
[10:29] <gonzoism> stewraz are you getting over 40k/sec on the connection now ?  not just P2P but any connection ? or all of the added up
[10:30] <stewraz> gonzoism- i am using azurus, one thing is a little weird though, i have set the ports etc, however i still get an warnign when i start it up
[10:30] <LeoDioxide> stewraz: are you getting full connectivity, (green face) or yellow?
[10:30] <milestone> ok the UUID is something like a label. That is at least what the manpage of fstab sais
[10:30] <stewraz> i am getting about 20k
[10:30] <GeekMaster1> I'm having a real hard time making my VMWare with Vista 32 bit Home Premium installed on my Ubuntu Feisty seamless as if it's a part of Ubuntu as I have seen on other guides and posts.
[10:30] <enviouz> dosage:  ok i guess the closed driver dosent support that card nothing below 9500
[10:30] <stewraz> i have 5 going
[10:30] <GeekMaster1> So far what I've done is:
[10:30] <GeekMaster1> -Install RDesktop
[10:30] <GeekMaster1> -Install Vista (Home Premium 32 bit) on VMWare
[10:30] <GeekMaster1> -InstallVMWare Tools on my Vista (Home Premium 32 bit) VM
[10:30] <stewraz> green faces on all
[10:31] <Maman> hallo every body.... excuse me.. can someone help me how to crack .rar password in linux
[10:31] <GeekMaster1> please IM me @ AIM: danielmichel0101 Yahoo~: danielmichel0101 MSN: danielmichel0101@hotmail.com ICQ: 488336961 GTalk: xcingix@gmail.com
[10:31] <stewraz> which makes me wonder why i still get a warning when i start up
[10:31] <LeoDioxide> which warning?
[10:31] <aidan> I have a Terminal profile for using IRSSI, is there any way to set that automatically through the Application In Terminal launcher?
[10:31] <Peppery> yo2k: yeah -_-
[10:31] <stewraz> somethign about the port 6118 not usable as it is taken by another ip address
[10:31] <dosage> enviouz: Thats teh impression I got, but I also noted that going through the ati website looking for linux drivers points me to the exact same ones for the 9500+
[10:31] <Peppery> The man page doesn't help
[10:31] <stewraz> i dont use port 6118
[10:32] <dosage> well using thier wizard anyway
[10:32] <hideandseek> !nvidia
[10:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:32] <yo2k> Peppery: ooo... sorry...
[10:32] <LeoDioxide> stewraz: does it choose random ports after it says unusable?  Are you saving the settings?
[10:32] <soufian> hola
[10:33] <gonzoism> stewraz try killing azureus. then do a ps ax|grep java and see if it is still running in the background somewhere
[10:33] <stewraz> nope it has saved the settings i use port 49222
[10:33] <enviouz> that is strange
[10:33] <stewraz> these setting save
[10:33] <stewraz> port 6118 was the defult that azurus sets
[10:33] <dosage> ack! somebody typed the command to show the system log, can you show me again?
[10:34] <dosage> dmesg or something like that
[10:34] <gonzoism> dosage dmesg
[10:34] <dosage> thanks =)
[10:35] <Peppery> !cp
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <hideandseek> do you know if beryl will work with a legacy card?
[10:35] <ziroday> try and find out
[10:35] <stewraz> ps ax|grep java does not show anything when azureus is closed
[10:35] <hideandseek> ya i tried
[10:36] <hideandseek> but it isnt working
[10:36] <dosage> gonzoism: will that log show information AFTER a crash and reboot?
[10:36] <yo2k> dosage: /var/log
[10:36] <LeoDioxide> dosage: thats just the current system, you can check other logs in /var/log
[10:37] <dosage> ahh, thanks so much
[10:37] <dosage> im a linux noob, can you tell?
[10:37] <LeoDioxide> so am I
[10:37] <Ireal> you still live in the DOS age ? ;P
[10:37] <Refakki> hi all
[10:39] <stewraz> this is the message i get UPnp: mapping 'UDP tracker Client port (udp/6118) has been reserved by 192.168.1.65 please select a diffent port
[10:39] <GeekMaster1> If I JUST installed a program and it doesn't add it'self on to any menus how do I know whow to run it?
[10:39] <stewraz> any help is appreciated
[10:39] <stewraz> i have not set this port anywhere in azurus
[10:40] <LeoDioxide> stewraz: change both the tcp and udp ports....
[10:40] <dosage> Yippy ... kaboom ... reviewing logs
[10:40] <LeoDioxide> GeekMaster1: which program?
[10:41] <stewraz> leodioxide - azureus seems to not have a setting for both, i can only see one menu to change it
[10:41] <GeekMaster1> Any given program. I want to kno wan easy way yo know how to run any given program that I have installed on my computer.
[10:41] <GeekMaster1> LeoDioxide: Any given program. I want to kno wan easy way yo know how to run any given program that I have installed on my computer.
[10:41] <LeoDioxide> stewraz: try setting your options for expert mode
[10:41] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: like what ?
[10:41] <stewraz> leodioxide - the setting is meant to change both TCP and UDP
[10:41] <Ajit> do I need internet connection to use apt-get ?
[10:41] <stewraz> mmm ok, how do i change that
[10:41] <GeekMaster1> TheWidgetFactory
[10:42] <LeoDioxide> stewraz: I think the config wizard lets you
[10:42] <GeekMaster1> yo2k: TheWidgetFactory
[10:42] <yo2k> Ajit: yes or no, see your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:42] <mat1980> GeekMaster1: you have to know the name of the command. you could look in the file installed by the packege. Then add that command in a new entry in the menu.
[10:42] <Ausicaemia> Does anybody know why my startup entries get reset on reboot? Is there are a way to edit the file directly or something?
[10:42] <Ausicaemia> Forum thread for more specific details: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=483699
[10:43] <stewraz> leodioxide - ok did that but it still only has the one setting for both
[10:43] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: you type dpkg -i packages / apt-get insyall packages or ..?
[10:43] <GeekMaster1> I searched my computer for thewidgetfactory wiget, factory, the widget and other variations. I KNOW it's installed. I just dont know how to run it
[10:44] <GeekMaster1> yo2k: I installed it via Synaptic
[10:44] <LeoDioxide> wow, that must be a new feature or something, my azureus has 2 seperate boxes for tcp and udp
[10:44] <SqrlKng> Hey, does anyone have experience with the "No monitor detected" error after switching to the actual nVidia driver?
[10:45] <stewraz> never mind i will try another client
[10:45] <SqrlKng> when trying to start xserver, anyway
[10:45] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: actually, via synaptic add to menu at desktop... / or type sudo updatedb
[10:45] <stewraz> thanks for ur help guys
[10:45] <dosage> would a log entry of "input: Power Button (CM) as /class/input/input7" mean what I think it means, a log of me pushing the power button?
[10:45] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: than type locate your-application
[10:46] <stewraz> one more leodioxide, why does my ratio show as red
[10:46] <LeoDioxide> stewraz: it's not over 1.0
[10:46] <stewraz> i have a good ratio rating
[10:46] <stewraz> ahhh yeah im not there yet
[10:46] <stewraz> thanks
[10:46] <LeoDioxide> good luck
[10:46] <LeoDioxide> look for that UDP port!
[10:46] <stewraz> will do
[10:46] <LeoDioxide> or ignore it, its only a fallback
[10:46] <stewraz> thanks heaps, have a good night/day where ever u r
[10:47] <LeoDioxide> hehe, cya
[10:47] <mat1980> SqrlKng: once I got that error, but much time ago. Have you tried to reconfigure xorg?
[10:47] <randoman__> anyone know what package nsinstall is in
[10:47] <SqrlKng> yeah, still doesn't work using the nVidia ones.. only boots with the nv driver
[10:48] <enviouz> i think so dosage
[10:48] <yo2k> randoman__: man dpkg
[10:48] <GeekMaster1> yo2k: http://pastebin.com/935840
[10:48] <mat1980> SqrlKng: monitor is configured in the same way with both driver?
[10:49] <SqrlKng> yeah, the only thing I change is that first option
[10:49] <yo2k> !pastebin
[10:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:50] <dosage> Logs are indicating a lot of bluetooth activity around the time of crashing, is there an easy way to disable the bluetooth feature to rule it out as the cause?
[10:50] <dosage> not wifi, but bluetooth
[10:50] <mat1980> SqrlKng: sorry... no idea... there should be a channel dedicated to X. Maybe there someone could help you more.
[10:50] <SqrlKng> what would it be?
[10:50] <dawn> hi! question regarding mouse cursors for ubuntu 7.04
[10:50] <enviouz> im not sure dosage
[10:51] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: i can't open your pastebin, so slower my connection...
[10:51] <dawn> can anybody help me? om me please..
[10:51] <passbe> does anyone here know if you can set a pidgin buddy pounce to your entire contact list ?
[10:51] <dawn> pm* ^
[10:51] <GeekMaster1> danny@danny-desktop:~$ thewidgetfactory
[10:51] <GeekMaster1> bash: thewidgetfactory: command not found
[10:51] <GeekMaster1> danny@danny-desktop:~$
[10:51] <derek_> Hi! When I resume the computer from hibernation, why does the Wi-Fi light start glowing? And then I cannot even turn it off unless I restart/shutdown the system.
[10:52] <mat1980> SqrlKng: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode&chat=xorg
[10:52] <enviouz> dosage:  check under system-->admin-->services
[10:52] <SqrlKng> mat1980:  thanks
[10:52] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: type locate appl-name
[10:52] <mat1980> SqrlKng: you're wellcome! good luck!
[10:52] <GeekMaster1> yo2k: I did. It's in my pastebin.
[10:53] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: sudo updatedb
[10:53] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: than locate appl-name again...
[10:53] <toddy> i've installed my vsftpd,but when i upload a file to the directory /pub/upload/ it shows that "Consider using PASV.550 Permission denied."
[10:53] <randoman__> thanks, apt-get install firefox* fixed it
[10:54] <toddy> any ideas?
[10:54] <GeekMaster1> yo2k: EXACTLY what I did and showed you in the pastebin
[10:54] <randoman__> nm apt-get install firefox-dev fixed it :P
[10:55] <dosage> kaboom ... brb
[10:55] <toddy> any one can help?
[10:56] <LeoDioxide> toddy: does the ftp account have the right permissions?
[10:56] <toddy> it's the anonymous count
[10:56] <aidan> I have a Terminal profile for using IRSSI, is there any way to set that automatically through the Application In Terminal launcher?
[10:56] <LeoDioxide> so, does the directory have the right permissions then?
[10:56] <yo2k> GeekMaster1: actually all linux can find file with command locate appl-name, if you install an appl, run updatedb than you can find where it's found.
[10:57] <GeekMaster1> Thank you
[10:57] <GeekMaster1> Later guys
[10:57] <LeoDioxide> aidan: try the #irssi channel
[10:57] <toddy> the upload/ has been chmoded to 777
[10:58] <spartacus> Hi. I've got an odd problem with ATI + Desktop Effects. Now, I've got the current ATI drivers installed, and have got DRI enabled (verified with fglrxinfo, glxinfo, and xdriinfo). Yet when I run desktop-effects, I'm told " GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is not supported by direct rendering context, trying indirect rendering context instead" then "GLX_SGIX_fbconfig is missing". Any hints?
[10:58] <toddy> LeoDioxide:the upload/ has been chmoded to 777
[10:58] <yo2k> toddy: owner ?
[10:59] <spartacus> I've checked FAQs and Wikis and have found a few mentions of this, but no answers :-/
[10:59] <LeoDioxide> toddy: hmm, is the vsftpd config setup to allow you access and all that good stuff?
[10:59] <mcmx_> anyone have any ideas why all files and folders on my nfs server are created with the user nobody no matter which user i am?
[10:59] <|Kamen|> hey guys and gals, I hope I'm in the right place for this, but I'm having some troule with VLC media player. whenever I try and use the scrollbar to skip forward or back, it closes the video and starts from the beginning!
[10:59] <toddy> a count named ftp what's anonymous
[10:59] <spartacus> |Kamen|: maybe your video doesn't have an index?
[11:00] <toddy> LeoDioxide:I think so!
[11:00] <yo2k> toddy: check with ls -l
[11:00] <toddy> but what could i do?
[11:00] <toddy> in the ftp?
[11:00] <LeoDioxide> at least check it
[11:00] <LeoDioxide> umm, do you have access to the vsftpd config file?
[11:00] <kraut> moin
[11:00] <Ireal> mplayer -idx will make you an index, is the movie incomplete ?
[11:00] <|Kamen|> mplayer?
[11:00] <toddy> yo2k:Okey!
[11:01] <|Kamen|> not incomplete, I dont think. they are .flv flash movies I got off youtube
[11:01] <yo2k> toddy: check if user to sign on have an access the folder/directory
[11:01] <Ireal> ah, i don't think you can easily skip through those, at least not with mplayer :)
[11:02] <|Kamen|> any good converter to put them into a better format?
[11:02] <Ireal> mencoder? i dunno
[11:02] <spartacus> mmm. flv is made to be streamed right? maybe the problem is similar... but i dunno how to work around.
[11:02] <spartacus> mencoder would be a good bet... it's part of mplayer. http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/info.html
[11:03] <OxS> anyone using e17 that can help me ?
[11:03] <|Kamen|> heh. what confuses me is when viewing the files on youtube, the scrollbar works as it should
[11:03] <|Kamen|> so I've no idea why I wouldnt be able to with the downloaded file
[11:03] <dosage> env: Thanks for the tip, got the bluetooth shutdown, now just waiting for a crash
[11:04] <cheetoos> hello , where the password files are stored in ubuntu dapper ?
[11:04] <OxS> im on enlightenment using the darkness theme but all my applications backgrounds are using metacity
[11:04] <OxS> and they're really bright white and ugly
[11:04] <enviouz> good to hear. ill b back in a few
[11:04] <OxS> does anyone know how to fix this?
[11:05] <toddy> yo2k:it's the root can login!
[11:06] <toddy> should i use the chawn commend?
[11:06] <yo2k> toddy: root is user administrator, root can anything...
[11:07] <yo2k> toddy: change your owner folder with user ftp to sign in
[11:07] <yo2k> toddy: type man chown
[11:08] <dosage> anyone have an idea what "gconfd ([MyName] -5412): Failed to send buffer" would indicate in teh syslog ?
[11:08] <toddy> yo2k:i'm trying
[11:08] <yo2k> dosege: dmesg
[11:09] <dosage> yo2k: this is an entry before the crash
[11:09] <toddy> yo2k:sorry,but "No manual entry for chawn"
[11:10] <|Kamen|> isnt it chown? (still new on the commands yet)
[11:11] <yo2k> dosage: dmesg is log of all activiti on linux, sorry if don't help you...
[11:11] <yo2k> toddy: no manual?
[11:11] <yo2k> toddy: man chown right?
[11:12] <toddy> yeah,
[11:12] <LeoDioxide> toddy: does it keep crashing, or just that once?
[11:12] <LeoDioxide> rather...
[11:12] <LeoDioxide> dosage: does it keep crashing?
[11:14] <yo2k> toddy: man command --> that's manual how to type a command in linux
[11:14] <toddy> always?i have configed for two days,never archived
[11:15] <yo2k> toddy: maybe you don't install it? actually man is installed by default
[11:16] <toddy> i know,i've remove it days ago!
[11:16] <dosage> Leodioxide: yes it does, still holding from the last config change I made, so it may be fixed, but I am still investigating just in case
[11:16] <toddy> i'm getting it at once!
[11:17] <yo2k> toddy: man = manual page, sorry if i can't help you...
[11:17] <windflying>  can somebody can give me a available radio URL?
[11:18] <toddy> that's ok!
[11:18] <toddy> any way,a'm new for linux
[11:18] <|Kamen|> toddy: you have been typing chawn in channel. the command is chown with an o.
[11:19] <yo2k> toddy: i'm new in ubuntu too...
[11:19] <toddy> oh,god
[11:19] <dany_> ola
[11:20] <toddy> jo2k:hehe!it's just hard for me!
[11:20] <OxS> is there anyway to change the metacity themes in enlightenment
[11:20] <OxS> i want to have the xfce-dusk theme
[11:21] <yo2k> toddy: that's ok...
[11:21] <LeoDioxide> OxS: I did it once, it involved heading into your .enlightement directory in your home folder
[11:21] <OxS> you dont have a link do you LeoDioxide ?
[11:21] <LeoDioxide> lemme look
[11:21] <Dinocrisis> Hello
[11:22] <OxS> id also like to make nautilus --no-desktop my default file browser
[11:22] <Dinocrisis> Please the command for know dominio's name?
[11:22] <LeoDioxide> OxS: http://www3.get-e.org/E17_User_Guide/English/_pages/6.2.2.html
[11:22] <ZERO_SHIFT> \I have a problem that I'd like to get fixed
[11:22] <ZERO_SHIFT> any one?
[11:22] <LeoDioxide> ask away
[11:22] <LeoDioxide> don't ask to ask, just ask!
[11:23] <ZERO_SHIFT>  I installed SuSE and then removed it's partition however I want to get to my ubuntu partition is there a way of installing GRUB?
[11:23] <ziroday> !grub
[11:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:23] <OxS> thank you LeoDioxide
[11:24] <LeoDioxide> ZERO_SHIFT: I'd say boot a live CD and install grub gentoo-style, by hand.
[11:24] <ZERO_SHIFT> LeoDioxide, an ubuntu live cd?
[11:25] <ZERO_SHIFT> LeoDioxide,  can you install grub only
[11:25] <LeoDioxide> ZERO_SHIFT: probably a gentoo live cd, and then follow the gentoo handbook for setting up grub
[11:25] <LeoDioxide> at least, thats what I'm familiar with
[11:25] <LeoDioxide> you can install grub only, yes
[11:25] <ZERO_SHIFT> LeoDioxide, Thanks
[11:26] <ZERO_SHIFT> any SuSE users?
[11:26] <LeoDioxide> in the ubuntu channel?!
[11:26] <OxS> LeoDioxide, thats for the theme
[11:26] <OxS> my problem is all my applications
[11:27] <OxS> like xchat is white while the theme is darkness
[11:27] <OxS> and i've set everything to use the darkness theme
[11:28] <LeoDioxide> does the darkness theme have all the application tie-ins?
[11:28] <LeoDioxide> I remember e-themes being notoriously short-handed
[11:29] <andys_> My Thinkpad died!  The world is falling apart
[11:29] <OxS> the window border is the right color
[11:29] <OxS> but the rest of the applications is using Gnome's human theme i think
[11:29] <OxS> metacity is in the process list
[11:29] <Jowi> OxS, that is normal. xchat is a gtk application.
[11:30] <OxS> how can i change it to xfce-dusk
[11:30] <Jowi> OxS, there are not many native enlightenment apps.
[11:30] <yo2k> bye guys... thank's a lot...
[11:30] <toddy> yo2k:bye
[11:31] <OxS> its usuing the default gtk theme
[11:31] <OxS> someone said there was a way to change that but im clueless as to how
[11:32] <AzMoo> Hey, is there any way that when I log in, I can force a program to wait for another one to load before it starts up?
[11:32] <Jowi> OxS, change the setting with gtk-chtheme or similar app. or you can use this script I made that imports the gnome settings and uses it in other WM's. (first script on this page http://burninghands.eu/scripts.html )
[11:33] <OxS> lol
[11:33] <OxS> im trying to install gtk-chtheme right now
[11:34] <OxS> where do i extract gtk-chtheme.tar.bz2
[11:34] <greedo__> is there a way to mount iso files from nautilus, without using the command line ?
[11:34] <osfameron> double click on them?
[11:34] <greedo__> does not mount it
[11:35] <osfameron> oh.  I thought it did
[11:35] <XiXaQ> it probably should.
[11:35] <osfameron> cos I've definitely used .iso files, and I'm fare too stupid to remember the command line invocation
[11:35] <Jowi> OxS, wherever you want. in a subfolder in your home directory or in /opt for example
[11:35] <LeoDioxide> mount /directory /file?
[11:35] <OxS> i had it in my home folder
[11:35] <XiXaQ> greedo__, I think I've read about extensions for nautilus.
[11:35] <OxS> i couldnt get it to run
[11:36] <windflying> How can I stop the *less* command?
[11:36] <XiXaQ> windflying, q
[11:36] <niekie> q
[11:37] <greedo__> gonna look for that then
[11:37] <windflying> Thanks XiXaQ  niekie
[11:37] <Jowi> OxS, here http://burninghands.eu/files/gtk-chtheme-0.3.1_0.3.1-1_i386.deb (use "sudo dpkg -i filename" to install it )
[11:40] <OxS> forbidden
[11:40] <OxS> how do i set prefered apps in enlightenment
[11:40] <SqrlKng> Hello, can someone tell me where I can find the steps to update my nvidia driver?
[11:40] <hideandseek> Hi all
[11:40] <surviver> sqrlkng, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[11:41] <mat1980> SqrlKng: just update the kernel.
[11:41] <hideandseek> So I installed the updated Nvidia drivers for my legacy gf2 ti.  After installing X will no longer start.  I says "No screens found."  What do I do?!?
[11:41] <supremesonic> is it me or is google down?
[11:42] <surviver> it u :D
[11:42] <Ireal> hideandseek: check the logs :)
[11:42] <hideandseek> where can I find those?>
[11:42] <Ireal> hideandseek: somewhere in /var/log, look for files named Xorg.*
[11:42] <greedo__> another question, under windows my lcd screen looks ok, but under ubuntu it looks blurry . is there anything to tweak ?
[11:43] <surviver> find the log in /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[11:43] <surviver> hideandseek, here u find them /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[11:43] <Jowi> OxS, sorry. try again now
[11:44] <hideandseek> Ireal: I had to boot into Ubuntu with the CD, since all I can do is use the terminal
[11:44] <Ireal> hideandseek: well.. you have to use the terminal ;)
[11:44] <hideandseek> surviver:  I am looking at that file, but I dont see any logs here just my settings.  I see different screens
[11:44] <Ireal> surviver: that's the configuration file, not the log.
[11:44] <surviver> hideandseek, u got this bleu screen before you login?
[11:45] <hideandseek> Ireal: well I have no problem with that, its just i cant pull up wiki and look at the solution, or talk to you kids on irc
[11:45] <surviver> ireal, yeah thought he could use it to boot in normal mode
[11:45] <hideandseek> yes
[11:45] <SqrlKng> wait, hideandseek -- what graphics card are you using?
[11:45] <hideandseek> GF2 ti
[11:45] <hideandseek> legacy drivers
[11:45] <hideandseek> I got the updated drivers from Nvidia's web site
[11:45] <Ireal> hideandseek: i suppose that's true (irssi is a text IRC client)
[11:46] <hideandseek> never used it, I just installed linux for the first time about 3 hours ago
[11:46] <Ireal> hideandseek: oo, spiffy :)
[11:46] <hideandseek> I was trying to get beryl to work and then found out that my drivers werent up to date so that wouldnt work
[11:46] <hideandseek> but now I get a blue screen when I bootup telling me that I'm missing screens
[11:46] <Ireal> hideandseek: you could try to run the nvidia-config application when in the terminal, if i'm not mistaken, it configures your xorg.conf properly. That's the file that tells the X-server how to act :)
[11:47] <hideandseek> can I run that right now even though I am using the CD?
[11:47] <OxS> gtk-theme-switch isnt working
[11:48] <Ireal> hideandseek: don't think so
[11:48] <surviver> ireal, maybe he has to try to get the log file from cd place it somewhere on stick , and just replace it with his? log
[11:48] <hideandseek> so I have to reboot to terminal and then run the file
[11:48] <Ireal> hideandseek: yes, don't forget to run it using sudo: sudo nvidia-config :)
[11:48] <hideandseek> is there somewhere i can paste my xorg.conf file or email it?
[11:49] <Jowi> OxS, gtk-chtheme that you got from me? what's wrong with it?
[11:49] <Ireal> !pastebin
[11:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:49] <kelvie> I need to reinstall ubuntu -- is there a file somewhere that holds the name of every package I installed?
[11:49] <kelvie> and a quick way to install em all at once
[11:49] <kelvie> after I reinstall
[11:49] <CheshireViking> !clone | kelvie
[11:49] <ubotu> kelvie: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[11:50] <hideandseek> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27106/
[11:50] <kelvie> ubotu: ugh.. so I have to chroot?
[11:50] <kelvie> er
[11:50] <kelvie> CheshireViking: ^
[11:50] <CheshireViking> kelvie, chroot?
[11:50] <kelvie> CheshireViking: from the liveCD
[11:50] <kelvie> CheshireViking: I can't access the computer directly..
[11:51] <kelvie> CheshireViking: the kernel is screwed up
[11:51] <Ireal> hideandseek: that's the x.org file from the CD or your HD ?
[11:51] <hideandseek> from my HD
[11:52] <Ireal> hideandseek: okay, to use the nvidia drivers change Driver "nv" to Driver "nvidia"
[11:52] <kelvie> bah I'll just chroot
[11:52] <CheshireViking> kelvie, i don't know, i've never used this method, i'd just seen the factoid, not sure whether you'll be able to go ahead using it, maybe someone else in the channel would know, but I'm afraid I can't help anymore with that
[11:52] <kelvie> it isn't that hard
[11:52] <niekie> Hmm, isn
[11:52] <kelvie> CheshireViking: it's fine, you helped plenty :)
[11:52] <kelvie> I'm just lazy and wanted to knwo if there's an easier way :O
[11:52] <niekie> Hmm, isn't it the other way around? (nvidia to nv)
[11:52] <Ajit> my system takes 6 minutes to boot feisty fawn. other OS take 2 minute (I have windows xp in C drive, windows 2000 professional in D drive and Windows Advance server in E drive , all are fat 32) , ubuntu is in ext3.
[11:52] <Ireal> hideandseek: doesn't look bad otherwise :)
[11:52] <kelvie> s/wo/ow
[11:52] <niekie> Or maybe I'm confused now..
[11:52] <CheshireViking> kelvie, no probs
[11:53] <kelvie> Ajit: I've found reiserfs to be a fair bit faster, but you won't approach windows speeds
[11:53] <OxS> thank you Jowi
[11:53] <kelvie> Ajit: if possible, you can try to use an initrd image with hibernate/suspend2
[11:53] <kelvie> but that's more like a workaround
[11:53] <kelvie> and not very flexible
[11:54] <hideandseek> Ireal, so all i need to do is make that one change?
[11:54] <Ajit> kelvie: what is initrd image with hibernate/suspend2
[11:54] <kelvie> Ajit: basically.. you boot your computer, and as soon as it's finished you create a hibernate image
[11:54] <Ajit> i am less familier with linux
[11:54] <Jowi> Ajit, it has nothing to do with the fs type. it's possibly something at boot that hangs or take a long time to perform (can be network configuration trying to find an ip address for example)
[11:54] <kelvie> Ajit: and in essence, you "unhibernate" every time on boot
[11:54] <hideandseek> Ireal, when I try to save it says i dont have permissions.  I'm using gedit, do I have to use pico, nano, or vi?
[11:55] <Ireal> hideandseek: it is a root file, sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf :)
[11:55] <Ireal> hideandseek: you wouldn't want regular users messing with yer xorg files now would ya :)
[11:55] <kelvie> it saves loads of time, but I can see a lot of ... not so fun things happening
[11:56] <kelvie> so I wouldn't do it esp. if you're unfamilliar with linux :P
[11:56] <Ireal> but 6 minutes is /very/ long :)
[11:56] <hideandseek> well as far as I know I'm the only user
[11:56] <Jowi> Ajit, normal boot time should be around 90 seconds or so.
[11:56] <Ireal> hideandseek: well there's your account, and the root account :) and the account you work with is restricted so it cannot mess with the system too much
[11:57] <Ajit> kelvie: if suppose I dont do unhibernate every time then what would happen?
[11:57] <kelvie> Ajit: hrm?
[11:57] <kelvie> Ajit: you're not doing it right now :P
[11:57] <Ajit> no
[11:57] <Ireal> hideandseek: to perform changes to the system you need root-priviledges which you can attain using the sudo comand. you just type your own password after executing it and you have ascended to greater power!
[11:57] <kelvie> Ajit: of course, you have to set up the option in GRUB/LILO or whatever to boot normally
[11:57] <kelvie> and nothing ill will come of that
[11:57] <supremesonic> !partitionencryption
[11:58] <hideandseek> Ireal: ya, I took a couple of unix courses, but I kinda slept through em a little bit.  Wish I paid more attention.  You said I can use some kind of terminal chat program right?  What do I have to do to use it?
[11:58] <supremesonic> any remember that program there can encrypt a whole usb pen or other partition on the fly?
[11:58] <Jowi> kelvie, why suggesting a hibernation offer instead of fixing the issue?
[11:58] <Ajit> I just installed on saturday to use as my personal desktop at my home. currently i am in office.
[11:58] <supremesonic> I forgot it name
[11:58] <kelvie> Jowi: the thing is, linux can't boot as fast as windows
[11:58] <Jowi> kelvie, nonsense
[11:58] <SqrlKn1> Hello ... so I've gotten the nvidia-glx-new thing updated, can someone tell me how to get the nvidia kernel updated, too?
[11:59] <Jowi> kelvie, 6 minutes = something is wrong
[11:59] <kelvie> Jowi: a well tuned windows XP can boot in something like 20 seconds
[11:59] <kelvie> Jowi: well if it takes two minutes for windows..
[11:59] <Ajit> I am using default loader GRUB as I saw in my system.
[11:59] <scorp123> Hi all ..
[11:59] <supremesonic> if you install only the linux kernel and gnu utils bootup is like 5seconds
[11:59] <kelvie> Jowi: well then be my guest and help him, I'mma go to sleep :P
[11:59] <selinuxium> hi all, I am onsite at a clients and the firewall here blocks port 22,any ideas on how I can set up a ssh session?
[11:59] <Jello> Hi
[12:00] <Ireal> hideandseek: check your pm :)
[12:00] <Jello> anyone an idea http://pastebin.com/935861 ? :s
[12:00] <Jello> just installed but sh path, path doesn't work :s
[12:00] <supremesonic> anyone remember what that encryption partition tool is called for *nix systems?
[12:00] <scorp123> selinuxium: how did you get to this IRC channel then?
[12:00] <Ajit> kellvie: what changes should I do in grub file.
[12:01] <hideandseek> in nano what do you press to exit?
[12:01] <Jello> ctr + x
[12:01] <scorp123> selinuxium: ... I'm assuming here that IRC would be blocked too ...
[12:01] <hideandseek> ok thanks
[12:01] <Ireal> hideandseek: i'm going to lunch :)
[12:01] <hideandseek> pz
[12:01] <hideandseek> thanks for the help
[12:02] <selinuxium> scorp, using a java port 80 vnc to my winblows pc at the office, then ircing from there....
[12:02] <dosage> !ati
[12:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:02] <scorp123> selinuxium: do they have a proxy then? e.g. Port 80 can get out?
[12:02] <Jowi> Ajit, when ubuntu boots, hit escape button to see what is taking long to start.
[12:03] <Ajit> ok.
[12:03] <selinuxium> scorp123: port 80 goes out yes...
[12:04] <scorp123> selinuxium: did you try to use the -p option? e.g. force ssh to use port 80?
[12:05] <scorp123> selinuxium: also, if they have a SOCKS proxy, ssh protocol 2 should be able to pass through.
[12:05] <scorp123> selinuxium: but the easiest thing would of course be if they changed their firewall to let ssh connections out.
[12:05] <Ajit> i am very curious to use linux and shift my desktop from windows to linux but i am efiiciently use this with the help of you community people. I am using windows since long time.
[12:08] <leagris> Bless the lowlattency kernel. Got mencoder stuck at 100% for several hours without ever noticing any slowness. The CPU fan running full speed alerted me though ;D
[12:09] <hideandseek> ok so I tried editing the xorg.conf file but apparently when I used the CD it actually saved my changes, so changed the nv to nvidia didnt change anything
[12:10] <hideandseek> I'm still getting the same blue screen when I boot into ubuntu
[12:10] <Jello> Arg, okay
[12:10] <Jello> I download something
[12:10] <Jello> but why can I run it :s
[12:10] <Jello> http://pastebin.com/935861 :s
[12:10] <dosage> ok ... big question ....
[12:10] <Jello> I make a fault
[12:10] <Jello> but... what :\
[12:10] <Jello> I installed with apt-get install
[12:10] <scorp123> !enter | Jello
[12:10] <ubotu> Jello: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:11] <Jello> okat scorp123  and ubotu
[12:11] <Jello> *okay
[12:11] <Lepric> Hi!
[12:11] <scorp123> ubotu is a bot ;)
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <scorp123> LOL
[12:11] <hideandseek> I also tried using nvidia-config but it says it isnt valid.  Any ideas about configuring my screens?
[12:11] <Jello> I know, but I wanted to say 'thanxs' to him
[12:12] <scorp123> Jello: yes, he's a useful little bot. Rescued me many times with useful info :)
[12:12] <bvod> may i ask how do i turn on x-cd-roast?
[12:12] <hideandseek> also is it possible to revert back to my previous settings before I loaded the new nvidia drivers that hosed my X
[12:12] <Jello> but scorp123 , how do you run an app? sh 'file' gives 'no binairy..',and just the path gives the error on http://pastebin.com/935861 , I just don't get it
[12:13] <dosage> I am going to change video drivers .... in the event I am no longer able to boot after the install, how can I revert using the command line?
[12:13] <MR> bvod: Maybe you need to install it? use apt-get install programname
[12:13] <bvod> it is installed
[12:13] <hideandseek> Wow dosage sounds like we both have the same question :o
[12:13] <Ausicaemia> Does anybody know why my startup entries get reset on reboot? Is there are a way to edit the file directly or something?
[12:13] <bvod> it says: warning no root configuration file found, superuse must start and configure it first before other users can use it
[12:13] <Ausicaemia> Forum thread for more specific details: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=483699
[12:13] <dosage> lol, my bad for having to look at the keyboard when typing
[12:14] <scorp123> Jello: usually you just invoke the binary's name ... as you did. Confusing this is :-/
[12:15] <Dave> hello everyone, i have a problem and have searched everywhere but cannot find a cure! anyone available for help please?
[12:15] <Ausicaemia> ^ Don't ask to ask a question, just ask it.
[12:15] <scorp123> !ask | Dave
[12:15] <ubotu> Dave: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:15] <[ThC] Primski> learn the bot that answer
[12:15] <Dave> lol fair enough
[12:15] <[ThC] Primski> like !question < nick
[12:15] <[ThC] Primski> oh
[12:15] <[ThC] Primski> u did
[12:15] <Nafallo> !dvd
[12:15] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:15] <[ThC] Primski> :D
[12:15] <Jello> mm, it's strange , cannot execute binary file :\ I just don't get it
[12:15] <Ausicaemia> So anyway, does anyone know why my startup is doing that?
[12:15] <Nafallo> !dvdiso
[12:16] <scorp123> Jello: what are the permissions on that file?
[12:16] <verb_> guys when I use the command dd to make an iso of a CD  like this "$ dd if=/dev/hda of=mycd.iso " it gives me this error "dd: reading `/dev/hda': Input/output error"   what's the problem ?
[12:16] <Lundn> have someone gotten the banshee daap to work ? mine is connecting for ever to my itunes.. it worked when both had itunes (before i installed ubuntu)
[12:16] <scorp123> Jello: also, that game ... maybe it has its own forum where you might get more help?
[12:16] <Dave> well i have a rhine-II network card and it doesnt show up in ubuntu networking
[12:16] <Jello> user: root, group: groot, -rwxr-xr-x
[12:16] <ubotu> DVD ISOs are available via http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[12:16] <Jello> *root
[12:16] <scorp123> verb_: are you sure /dev/hda is your CD ??  /dev/hda is usually the first harddisk ...
[12:16] <Nafallo> baah. I wanna know what's on the DVD ISOs. what extra value do they bring? :-)
[12:17] <miramana> verb_: try /dev/hdc
[12:17] <_Codeman_> Ok, I lock my session, my brother starts a new session and is on for a bit, then logs off, then it goes to a gray screen and doesn't respond to anything except Ctrl+Alt+Del, any idea why it would do that
[12:17] <[ThC] Primski> nafallo, think all distros are up, ubuntu, kubuntu and stuff
[12:17] <verb_> scorp123, yes , I have 2 cd drives one is hda and the other is hdb
[12:17] <scorp123> verb_: so your harddisks are SATA or SCSI then?
[12:18] <scorp123> verb_: e.g. /dev/sda and /dev/sdb ....
[12:18] <hideandseek> Is it possible to revert back to before I loaded the new video drivers so I can stop getting the blue screen and try again?
[12:18] <Nafallo> [ThC] Primski: can I choose at boot what I want to run? desktop, alternate or server etc? :-)
[12:18] <[ThC] Primski> Nafallo, hm dunno, havent tried that, you would probably have to have differnet installs for that.
[12:18] <Ind[y] > A good DAV client?
[12:19] <[ThC] Primski> on dvd, when installing, you can choose what to install, ubutnu server/desktop, kubuntu/...
[12:19] <scorp123> verb_: looking at that error message again which you posted ... maybe the CD you try to copy is damaged?
[12:19] <Nafallo> [ThC] Primski: yea, I just want them supported out of the same disk. that might add value for me :-)
[12:19] <Dave> can anybody help me with my problem? i'm sorry im a bit of a n00b lol
[12:19] <nesta> ./j #ubuntu-fr
[12:19] <Nafallo> [ThC] Primski: kewl, thanks :-)
[12:19] <hideandseek> dave just ask the question
[12:19] <Dave> i have lol
[12:19] <Dave> well i have a rhine-II network card and it doesnt show up in ubuntu networking
[12:19] <[ThC] Primski> dave, rhine-II...whats that? manufacturer? and no drivers ?
[12:20] <scorp123> Dave: I don't know that card ... what brand is that?
[12:20] <hideandseek> System Preferences->Restricted devices
[12:20] <Dave> rhine-II is the card
[12:20] <Dave> via technologies
[12:20] <OxS> in system > preferences > network proxy > advanced config there was three settings that got removed and i cant add them back
[12:20] <OxS> how can i do it manually?
[12:20] <scorp123> Dave: read about pastebin ....
[12:21] <scorp123> !pastebin | Dave
[12:21] <[ThC] Primski> Dave, does your networking work on Ubutnu Live CD ?
[12:21] <ubotu> Dave: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:21] <Dave> ok cool
[12:21] <scorp123> Dave: can you please do a "sudo lspci" and paste the results on the page you were just given please?
[12:21] <verb_> scorp123,  sorry for not replying , I got busy suddenly  ....it's SCSI I Think  , and the CD is not damaged (it's a playstation game that works perfectly in ePSXe)
[12:21] <Dave> and no it doesnt work in live cd
[12:21] <[ThC] Primski> :s
[12:21] <Dave> ok scorp123 no worries
[12:21] <scorp123> verb_: PlayStation games are copy-protected as far as I know
[12:22] <Dave> well the problem is, im not on that computer lol
[12:22] <scorp123> verb_: copying them with standard methods might therefore fail ....
[12:22] <verb_> scorp123,  but they work in the emulator
[12:22] <scorp123> verb_: it's an original disk?
[12:22] <Ind[y] > Could somebody recommend me a DAV client?
[12:22] <verb_> scorp123, what do you recommend ?
[12:22] <Dave> as i cannot connect to the net :(
[12:22] <OxS> how do i add *.local localhost 127.0.0.0/8  to system > preferences > network proxy > advanced config manually?
[12:22] <Tribes> well, my english is not very good but I try to help you jello, i think you have to run the programm with root rights
[12:22] <scorp123> verb_: maybe your CD drive has problems reading some sectors ... can you try it in a different drive?
[12:23] <Theleo> i have used mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdb to make an f 32 filesystem for my disk.Windows does recognize that this is a FAT filesystem formated disk but does not let me assign a letter on the drive.I was told that this was due to the 32GB limitation of FAT32 imposed by windows.Any ideas to give an option that will format the drive correctly
[12:23] <Dave> but when i go lspci, my network card comes up
[12:23] <Dave> do*
[12:23] <scorp123> Dave: do you have a USB stick? You could copy and paste the output to a text file, put this on a USB stick and then paste from there.
[12:23] <[ThC] Primski> what does it say ? any errors ?
[12:23] <OxS> does anybody know?
[12:23] <verb_> scorp123, yes , as I told you , I have 2 drives and tried them both , they gave the exact same error ....maybe it's protection as you said , is there any way to backup this CD
[12:23] <verb_> ?
[12:24] <Dave> good idea scorp123
[12:24] <OxS> what file does system > pref > network proxy > advanced config handle?
[12:24] <scorp123> verb_: hmmmmm .... maybe you will find instructions on sites such as "gamecopyworld.com" ... but please note that we are going off-topic here, and that site might be illegal depending on where you live.
[12:25] <OxS> ignore host list
[12:25] <OxS> how do i edit ignore host list manually?
[12:25] <Ind[y] > Could somebody recommend me a GUI DAV client please?
[12:25] <verb_> scorp123,  even in the US it's completely legal to have backups :) ...thanks for your time scorp123  , I really appreciate your help
[12:25] <Theleo> any ideas or should i format the disk with a third party software?
[12:26] <Lundn> any fixes for itunes 7 share bug :S
[12:26] <scorp123> Theleo: did you partition the drive properly?
[12:26] <hideandseek> Is it possible to revert back to previous settings before a driver update?
[12:26] <Ind[y] > Could somebody recommend me a GUI DAV client please?
[12:26] <Theleo> yes
[12:26] <Ausicaemia> Does anybody know why changes to Startup Programs don't get saved on my machine? Is there are a way to edit the file directly or something?
[12:26] <Theleo> fdisk /dev/sdb
[12:26] <scorp123> Theleo: because you wrote you formatted /dev/sdb directly .... shouldn't that be /dev/sdb1 or something like that?
[12:26] <Theleo> follow the options and the rest...
[12:26] <Theleo> oh yes sorry
[12:26] <Theleo> it was sdb1
[12:27] <INIT_6> After copying about 300gb so far. I thought it would be a good idea to restart my ubuntu linux box. During the shutdown it's stuck on unmounting local filesystem. it's been on this screen for about 7min. If I flip over to TTY1-6 Doesn't let me login. The cursur is flashing on the right hand side where the [ok]  goes. Should I just let it sit for a while and hope it does something or restart it manually
[12:27] <scorp123> Theleo: I'd recommend to use Windoze to format that disk ...
[12:27] <scorp123> Theleo: to each his own.
[12:28] <Theleo> well i tried that but windows doesnt let me format the disk as FAT32
[12:28] <Theleo> only NTFS
[12:28] <scorp123> Theleo: as FAT32 is native to Windows I'd say it has a better chance of properly formatting the disk in that format.
[12:28] <OxS> i followed this help file https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2320  about the network proxy ignore list and now i cant connect to the internet through my user
[12:28] <OxS> and i cant add them back with network proxy settings
[12:28] <scorp123> Theleo: oh yes, that's a limitation Microsoft built on purpose into XP ... they want to force you to use NTFS ... :)
[12:28] <Dave> ok scorp123 - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27110/
[12:28] <Theleo> uncle bill and his o/s ...hahhahah
[12:29] <OxS> where are the settings for proxy configuration
[12:29] <OxS> the actual file
[12:29] <Theleo> well i think i will end up with a third party software and finish it there if there is no option with mkfs that will do the work for me
[12:29] <scorp123> Dave: OK ... your system does see the card ... so maybe it's just the module (= "driver") that's missing. Let me check ....
[12:30] <[ThC] Primski> yep
[12:30] <Dave> ok
[12:30] <[ThC] Primski> i read that, driver doesnt get loaded
[12:30] <[ThC] Primski> quick google search
[12:30] <[ThC] Primski> http://groups.google.com/group/fa.linux.kernel/msg/f0ba450fa5204bfd
[12:31] <Ind[y] > Could somebody recommend me a GUI WebDAV/DAV client please?
[12:31] <scorp123> Dave: can you try this command:  "sudo modprobe via-rhine"
[12:31] <hideandseek> So I got a blue screen after I loaded the legacy nvidia drivers for my card.  After that I get a blue screen that says that I have no screens.  Is it possible to revert back to before the driver install or maybe fix the issue
[12:31] <Dave> yep sure scorp123 1 sec
[12:31] <scorp123> Dave: and then check again if the interface does show up?
[12:32] <[ThC] Primski> dave and scorp123, check this: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/gentoo-linux-help/50875-no-internet-boot-solved.html
[12:32] <Dave> ok did that, and still not showing
[12:32] <Dave> ok cool
[12:34] <scorp123> [ThC] Primski: not sure how helpful that is ... via-rhine module is already there by default.
[12:34] <scorp123> so need to compile the kernel again IMHO
[12:34] <[ThC] Primski> hm, yea
[12:34] <scorp123> the rest of the instructions are either for SUSE or for Gentoo ...
[12:34] <Dave> well tried 'ifconfig eth0 up' and it said blah blah no such device
[12:34] <[ThC] Primski> there is a linux driver on via hp tho, think that could help ?
[12:35] <scorp123> Dave: try this .... "sudo /etc/init.d/network stop"  and then after a few seconds "sudo /etc/init.d/network start" ... does this change anything?
[12:35] <hideandseek> cant dave use ndiswrapper?
[12:35] <scorp123> hideandseek: not for an Ethernet interface I think
[12:35] <Dave> no such file scorp123
[12:35] <hideandseek> So I got a blue screen after I loaded the legacy nvidia drivers for my card.  After that I get a blue screen that says that I have no screens.  Is it possible to revert back to before the driver install or maybe fix the issue
[12:35] <scorp123> just a sec
[12:36] <wols> blue screen?
[12:36] <wols> are you in the wrong oS?
[12:36] <hideandseek> i wish i was
[12:36] <scorp123> Dave: try this .... "sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop"  and then after a few seconds "sudo /etc/init.d/networking start" ... does this change anything?
[12:36] <Dave> ok
[12:36] <wols> hideandseek: what driver did you use before?
[12:36] <hideandseek> wols: cause then I'd know how to fix it
[12:36] <scorp123> I mistyped it ... should be "networking" and not "network".
[12:36] <fatbrain> When I start an app, I get an error that the lib.so.3 was unable to be found (I have it in /usr/local/lib, I think it looks for it in /usr/lib). Anyway I can fix that?
[12:36] <hideandseek> wols: I installed the latest nvidia driver from www.nvidia.com
[12:37] <wols> fatbrain: cat /etc/ld.so.conf
[12:37] <wols> hideandseek: why?
[12:37] <scorp123> fatbrain: ln -s /usr/local/lib/lib.so.3 /usr/lib/lib.so.3  .... dirty, but it works :)
[12:37] <Ind[y] > Could somebody recommend me a GUI WebDAV/DAV client please?
[12:37] <Dave> ok.... went through and said no such device eth0 then eth1 then eth2 then ath0
[12:37] <scorp123> Ind[y] : use Google
[12:38] <hideandseek> wols: when I boot into ubuntu, it tells me that X has failed to start.  Then I ran the diagnostic and it says that I dont have any screens.  I ran the driver update so I can use beryl.
[12:38] <wols> hideandseek: supposedly the nvidia installer has a --uninstall option. maybe it even works
[12:38] <Ind[y] > scorp123: I did. Found nothing.
[12:38] <wols> hideandseek: that is no reason for nvidia.com drivers
[12:38] <wols> what videocard?
[12:38] <fatbrain> wols: include /etc/ld.so.conf.d./*.conf
[12:38] <fatbrain> scorp123: and if I dont want it dirty? :D
[12:39] <hideandseek> wols: nvidia geforce 2 ti.  it uses legacy drivers and the standard glx wont work.  So i get the latest linux drivers from the site
[12:39] <scorp123> fatbrain: follow the other instructions you were given :)
[12:39] <wols> fatbrain: add /usr/local/lib/
[12:39] <[ThC] Primski> dave, what did the 'sudo modprobe via-rhine' output ?
[12:39] <Dave> nothing at all
[12:39] <fatbrain> wols: will try that, thanks
[12:39] <wols> hideandseek: again. there is no reason
[12:39] <wols> fatbrain: then run ldconfig
[12:39] <scorp123> ... lunch time here ... g2g
[12:39] <snipex> ppl i wanna modify a file owned by root and it says i cant what can i do ?
[12:39] <Gerrit> Where can I find an explanation of the icons as used by KNetworkManager? KNetworkManager's help as a Q&A but the answer doesn't seem to be there.
[12:39] <[ThC] Primski> try, sudo rmmod viga-rhine and then again
[12:39] <snipex> (xmms skin directory)
[12:39] <[ThC] Primski> try, sudo rmmod via-rhine and then again
[12:40] <[ThC] Primski> damn
[12:40] <Dave> thanks for your help scorp123 enjoy
[12:40] <scorp123> snipex: you're not supposed to modify stuff that belongs to root ;)
[12:40] <hideandseek> wols: well regardless, I'm still having problems getting X to start. What is the command to uninstall the nvidia drivers?
[12:40] <Dave> ok will do
[12:40] <snipex> but its xmms skin file
[12:40] <wols> hideandseek: I told you. ask nvidia for anything more
[12:40] <fatbrain> wolf: I added a new line with the content "/usr/local/lib" and tried to start my app, same error, unable to find my lib.so.3
[12:40] <wols> fatbrain: read all I wrote. not just half
[12:40] <hideandseek> wols: do you mean ask tech support for nvidia driver support?
[12:41] <Dave> error module via-rhine does not exist in /proc/modules
[12:41] <selinuxium> snipex: sudo chown user:user /path/to/file
[12:41] <fatbrain> wols: ay, that helps, thanks
[12:41] <selinuxium> snipex:  where user is your user name.
[12:41] <fatbrain> running on solaris 6.4 on 2colors :(
[12:41] <[ThC] Primski> dave, hm, module indeed isnt loaded, so if modprobe, isnt outputting anything, means it loaded it successfully
[12:41] <[ThC] Primski> strange, inded
[12:41] <snipex> what ???
[12:41] <snipex> srry im still used 2 windows
[12:41] <Dave> lol sounds it
[12:41] <[ThC] Primski> im out of ideas, sry
[12:42] <Dave> ok dude no worries
[12:42] <[ThC] Primski> googled it, but no solutions so far
[12:42] <Dave> yeah same
[12:42] <wols> Dave: dmesg
[12:42] <[ThC] Primski> good luck with that :)
[12:42] <ciacon> can someone help me with my v4linux problem?? --> http://pastebin.ca/588107
[12:42] <aidan> How can I create a terminal with a certain profile selected? Or, what environment variable controls the selected profile?
[12:42] <shadeofgrey> has anybody present installed ubuntu on a coreduo macbookpro?
[12:43] <snipex> ~/.xmms/Skins where is that ???
[12:43] <Dave> want me to pastebin that wols?
[12:43] <wols> snipex: in your ~
[12:43] <hideandseek> how do I quit irssi?
[12:43] <wols> hideandseek: /exit
[12:43] <snipex> ~where is it
[12:43] <selinuxium> snipex: ~/ is your personal route the . hides the file. are you using nautilus to browse the files?
[12:43] <wols> snipex: cd ~
[12:43] <wols> pwd
[12:44] <snipex> oh
[12:44] <wols> and then you will know
[12:44] <promet> promet
[12:44] <snipex> im usin default file manager
[12:44] <aidan> snipex: that's nautilus
[12:44] <snipex> so
[12:45] <snipex> where is option to show hidden files or w/e ?
[12:45] <selinuxium> snipex: go to you rhome folder  ie the one with your user name. press Ctrl + h   to show the hidden files, you should now see the foilder
[12:45] <snipex> ty very much
[12:45] <Dave> wols: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27112/
[12:46] <Dave> output of dmesg
[12:46] <snipex> ty ppl works now
[12:46] <snipex> it aint owned by root
[12:47] <selinuxium> snipex: cool :)
[12:47] <hideandseek> wols:  the uninstall command worked. I'm back in ubuntu and the X is now working.  Thank you so much, I can use ubuntu again
[12:47] <shadeofgrey> i say again -- dsoes anyboldy here ghappen to have experience with installing ubuntu on a coreduo macbookpro?
[12:48] <snipex> i tough u r geek if u use windows cuz u got2geek to fix those stupid errors
[12:48] <wols> Dave: sudo modprobe via-rhine
[12:48] <CraSher> check utube tutorials
[12:48] <Dave> comes back with nothing
[12:48] <wols> hideandseek: get 9631 legacy drievrs from ubuntu or such
[12:48] <wols> Dave: dmesg again
[12:49] <hideandseek> !9631
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 9631 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <hideandseek> !legacy drivers
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about legacy drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <Dave> i see in the dmesg it says invalid mac address
[12:49] <wols> Dave: full output
[12:49] <ines> ola
[12:50] <Dave> line 260 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27112/
[12:50] <CraSher> my automatix can't download enything. Should i do "sudo apt-get update" to update list of servers?
[12:50] <aldin> hi, i need to find if my distro is ubuntu, how do i find it, i need it for one script and i need only "ubuntu" or "Ubuntu" as result, thanks in advance
[12:50] <wols> !version
[12:50] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[12:51] <aidan> "uname" should also do it
[12:51] <xpoint> uname -a
[12:51] <xpoint> or hust try a new tty
[12:51] <aidan> How can I create a terminal with a certain terminal profile selected? Or, what environment variable controls the selected profile?
[12:52] <iTurtle> can I make a panel from the command line?
[12:52] <GrandeMago> ciao a tutti
[12:52] <GrandeMago> posso chiedere una cosa
[12:52] <GrandeMago> ?
[12:52] <iTurtle> !it | GrandeMago
[12:52] <ubotu> GrandeMago: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:52] <xpoint> englist please
[12:52] <aldin> aidan: uname says linux, wols, lsb_release gives me bunch of text i need only one, and if possible with grep so that i get only one word which will fit in my UBUNTU variable
[12:52] <GrandeMago> azz, scusate
[12:52] <GrandeMago> :)
[12:52] <snipex> !shell
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <snipex> !shell
[12:52] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:52] <OxS> !seen jowi
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen jowi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <aidan> aldin: do some cool stuff with tr
[12:53] <snipex> hey ppl
[12:53] <Dave> so you do think its my mac address being wrong wols?
[12:53] <iTurtle> how can I make a panel from command line
[12:53] <snipex> wait a sec i got dapper drake
[12:53] <iTurtle> !question
[12:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:53] <iTurtle> !panels
[12:53] <CraSher> anyone use compiz-fushion here?
[12:53] <snipex> isnt now 7.04 version available ?
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panels - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <iTurtle> !panel
[12:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about panel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:54] <iTurtle> snipex: 7.04 means "year 2007, month 04"
[12:54] <iTurtle> snipex: yes, it has been released. (april 07
[12:54] <xpoint> iTurtle, what panel do you have in mind ?
[12:54] <aldin> aidan: ok, i'll "man" it
[12:54] <wols> Dave: what kernel version?
[12:54] <Dave> how do i find that
[12:54] <wols> Dave: looks more like a driver bug
[12:54] <Dave> ah right
[12:54] <iTurtle> !compiz | CraSher
[12:54] <wols> what kernel version?
[12:54] <ubotu> CraSher: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:55] <Dave> how do i find my kernel version out?
[12:55] <snipex> iTurtle : so why dont i have it ? i updated ubuntu
[12:55] <xpoint> Dave, uname -a
[12:55] <iTurtle> snipex: I need more information...
[12:55] <Dave> 2.6.17-10-generic
[12:55] <wols> update
[12:55] <snipex> iTurtle : what info ? i got linux ubuntu via net, 3 days ago
[12:56] <Dave> i cant lol not without the network
[12:56] <hideandseek> wols: so you are saying I should use any drivers provided by nvidia, only ubuntu?
[12:56] <Dave> unless i download a new iso
[12:56] <wols> Dave: you have wireless
[12:56] <Dave> hmm yeah auctually
[12:56] <wols> hideandseek: unless you know what your are doing or want a broken system
[12:56] <Dave> i'll try share with this windows im on
[12:57] <wols> Dave: and I guess you haev a windows install too?
[12:57] <Dave> lol yeah :(
[12:57] <wols> download a newer kernel perhaps
[12:57] <CraSher> i can't join #ubuntu-effects nor display /motd;(
[12:57] <Dave> wouldnt know how to install it
[12:57] <liuyang> Hello, i'v compiled the new kernel, but blacklist in new kernel doesn't work, does anyone know why?
[12:57] <Dave> would be easier for me to download a new iso and install from scratch
[12:58] <Dave> or am i being to windows minded? lol
[12:58] <nico_> hello?
[12:58] <snipex> aaaaaah
[12:58] <snipex> i got LTS ubuntu
[12:58] <nico_> grats snipex, ubuntu rules
[12:58] <snipex> still dapper
[12:58] <nico_> hm ok
[12:58] <nico_> it's better then windows anyway :D
[12:58] <snipex> ppl is LTS dapper drake equal to feisty fawn or not ?
[12:58] <snipex> yes it is
[12:59] <snipex> windows's net didnt work
[12:59] <nico_> no, feisty is brand new
[12:59] <snipex> i just inserted ubuntu cd in my comp and
[12:59] <snipex> net worked
[12:59] <snipex> so what is poin of LTS ?
[12:59] <nico_> ubuntu is cool
[12:59] <hylje> snipex: stationary target
[12:59] <nico_> are you running a live-cd now snipex? or did you install
[12:59] <snipex> install
[12:59] <snipex> i was sick of windows
[12:59] <nexous> How do I edit bootloader to select ubuntu or fedora?
[01:00] <nico_> just edit the bootloader to remove windows :D
[01:00] <Gerrit> Where can I find an explanation of knetworkmanager's icons?
[01:00] <snipex> ppl whats better fedora or ubuntu ?
[01:00] <MenZa> Depends on your taste.
[01:00] <snipex> if i want a stable version for music and games
[01:00] <MenZa> Some prefer Fedora, some prefer Ubuntu.
[01:00] <nexous> snipex: ubuntu ftw :-p
[01:00] <snipex> modern desktop
[01:01] <rosabarr> 281172
[01:01] <[ThC] Primski> who prefers fedora ? LOL
[01:01] <[ThC] Primski> :P
[01:01] <MenZa> I don't think you can get an unbiased opinion in here ;)
[01:01] <snipex> HEY PPL
[01:01] <Ireal> snipex: firestarter.
[01:01] <snipex> CAN I HAVE BOTH FEDORA AND UBUNTU ?
[01:01] <nexous> MenZa:  prolly not :-p
[01:01] <nexous> snipex: I'm doing that right now :D
[01:01] <snipex> rly
[01:01] <snipex> how
[01:01] <nico_> Gerrit: http://en.opensuse.org/Projects/KNetworkManager
[01:01] <Ireal> mandriva ftw!!
[01:01] <Gerrit> snipex: I recently switched.
[01:01] <Dave3> sorry about that, windows lol
[01:01] <snipex> from ubuntu to fedora or fedora2ubuntu ?
[01:02] <nexous> snipex: Well, I'm trying to figure out how to edit the boot loader, just as long as you have extra space fedora will create new partitions.
[01:02] <nico_> it's a SuSe guide but the program is all the same
[01:02] <Gerrit> snipex: I have recently switched.
[01:02] <nico_> but i'm still having sound problems over here
[01:02] <snipex> from what to what ?
[01:02] <nico_> strange
[01:02] <surviver> hello evry1, i got little prob, i made a backup but now i want to delete it so i have more space on my pc i tried this rm -d -r -f /media/sda4/backup but without succes any suggestions?
[01:03] <nico_> Gerrit: still looking for a knetworkmanager guide?
[01:03] <Gnea> surviver: why -d?
[01:03] <milestone> does anyone know what error 18 means when booting with grub?
[01:03] <Gerrit> nico_: I see the documentation, but I don't see an explanation of the icons.
[01:03] <Gerrit> I could RTSL.
[01:04] <MenZa> Which group allows you to use sudo?
[01:04] <Gnea> milestone: yes, the selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS - basically it means that your hard drive is larger than what your BIOS can handle.
[01:05] <surviver> gnea, directory
[01:05] <Gnea> surviver: rm -rf will suffice.
[01:05] <OxS> how do i edit http_proxy no_proxy?
[01:05] <milestone> Gnea: I am running scsi disks
[01:06] <Gnea> milestone: then there's a problem with your scsi disk.
[01:06] <milestone> is there a way to circumvent this by editing the configuration within the boot shell?
[01:06] <Gerrit> I suppose the blue icon with the lock means "protected", but I also see an icon of a PC, and I don't know what that one means.
[01:06] <milestone> Gnea: how can i check that?
[01:06] <Gnea> milestone: possibly, but the edit won't be permanent
[01:06] <surviver> gnea, sry for afk lol i help my mum with her windows :p but ill try
[01:06] <milestone> Gnea: i know. but i need to get the system up again
[01:07] <snipex> ppl : what is fedora better in than ubuntu ?
[01:07] <Gnea> milestone: get the system booted up and install scsitools
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> Menza!
[01:07] <Gerrit> snipex: I find rpm better than yum, but I find that ubuntu is better in recognising my laptop hardware.
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> dude i havent talked to you in eons!
[01:07] <Gerrit> I mean
[01:07] <Gerrit> I find rpm better than deb
[01:07] <Gnea> milestone: did you install or upgrade anything before this happened?
[01:07] <milestone> Gnea: that is the point. The system does not come up anymore
[01:08] <Gerrit> But I find apt-get better than yum
[01:08] <surviver> gnea, without succes :(
[01:08] <milestone> Gnea: I was in the process of setting up software raid 1
[01:08] <defrysk> Gerrit, rpm better then yum ? what does that mean ?
[01:08] <Gnea> Gerrit: you are horribly misled.
[01:08] <Gerrit> defrysk: I meant rpm better than deb.
[01:08] <nexous> for my menu.lst, root for /dev/hda4 would be what?
[01:08] <Ireal> nexous: hd(0,3)
[01:08] <nexous> Ireal: okay.
[01:08] <defrysk> Gerrit, not sure if I agree, but anyway its off topic
[01:08] <Gnea> milestone: were you using a guide?
[01:08] <Gerrit> Gnea: Debian package manager does not seem to register in the package database when the package was installed, and allows packets to asks question interactively. The latter is a horrible mistake, in my opinion.
[01:09] <Gerrit> defrysk: Is a comparison between ubuntu and fedora offtopic?
[01:09] <milestone> i just added a new kernel config to grub with savedefault --default=5 --once
[01:09] <defrysk> Gerrit, yes
[01:09] <milestone> Gnea:
[01:09] <milestone> Gnea: yes
[01:09] <Gerrit> I have used Redhat and Fedora for years, and ubuntu for days.
[01:09] <milestone> Gnea: http://togami.com/~warren/guides/remoteraidcrazies/
[01:09] <Gerrit> I'm answering snipex' question.
[01:09] <nico_> guys, does anyone know a reason why my sound won't work anymore? no mute settings here, every volume to the max
[01:09] <nico_> what did i forget
[01:09] <flowingfire> Hi there.  Does anybody know what I need to do to get a presentation to show up on my televiaion?  I have a svideo cable connected... no picture yet
[01:10] <nexous> Eh this is a pain in the arse.
[01:10] <Gnea> Gerrit: a timestamp is not a good way to distinguish between package managers. debian provides a solidly robust system that rpm can't even compare to.
[01:10] <Gerrit> I prefer the ubuntu way of installing software (post-installation).
[01:10] <Ireal> nico_: did you put the cable in ?
[01:10] <nexous> Anyone successfully dual boot fedora and ubuntu, with ubuntu as default boot?
[01:10] <Gerrit> Gnea: I find that RPM is a lot more robust and comprehensive.
[01:10] <defrysk> nexous, no reason why it would not be
[01:10] <Gnea> Gerrit: how long have you used ubuntu?
[01:10] <Gerrit> Gnea: For example, the RPM --qf option, queryformat, offers a lot more tags than Debian's equivalent.
[01:10] <flowingfire> anyone know what to do in ubuntu to show video on my TV through an SVIDEO cable?
[01:10] <nexous> defrysk: I'm having trouble with boot loader.
[01:10] <Gerrit> Gnea: Not long, but long enough to experience the limitations of the debian package manager.
[01:11] <defrysk> nexous, first intalled fedora and then ubuntu ?
[01:11] <Gerrit> Gnea: Debian package manager has about 30 fields, I think.
[01:11] <Gnea> Gerrit: that's quite a good load of FUD you're building
[01:11] <flowingfire> i can do video on my TV with windows and mac but i don't know what to do in Ubuntu
[01:11] <Gerrit> Gnea: I'm not spreading FUD.
[01:11] <nexous> defrysk: other way.
[01:11] <Gerrit> Gnea: There is no Debian package manager equivalent of RPM's 'INSTALL-DATE'.
[01:11] <defrysk> nexous, then you have to go to #fedora
[01:11] <Gnea> Gerrit: how long is 'not very long'?
[01:11] <Gerrit> Gnea: ten days.
[01:11] <nexous> defrysk: and ask what?
[01:11] <Gerrit> I missed RPM's INSTALL-DATE within a day,
[01:11] <nexous> defrysk: I hate going there, there all grumpy.
[01:12] <Gnea> Gerrit: then that doesn't count. when you hit the 1 year mark, then we'll talk. :)
[01:12] <defrysk> nexous, how to set up ubuntu in the bootloader
[01:12] <PriceChild> !offtopic | Gnea Gerrit
[01:12] <ubotu> Gnea Gerrit: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:12] <Gerrit> And I dislike it that, during a big install with debian, I cannot walk away, because packages might asks questions interactively during install.
[01:12] <flowingfire> !svideo
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about svideo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <nexous> defrysk: other way, i need fedora setup in ubuntu's bootloader.
[01:12] <defrysk> nexous, you could also install ubuntu's grub
[01:12] <flowingfire> !presentations
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about presentations - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <nexous> defrysk: I did not install fedoras bootloader.
[01:12] <Gerrit> PriceChild: I do not find my conversation offtopic. I am comparing Ubuntu to a different distribution. I think that is ontopic.
[01:12] <jrib> !fishing | flowingfire
[01:12] <ubotu> flowingfire: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:12] <PriceChild> Gerrit, this channel is ubuntu _SUPPORT_, nothing else. Please move on.
[01:12] <Gnea> PriceChild: it's quite ontopic, actually
[01:12] <defrysk> ubuntu's bootloader should have dertected the fedora install
[01:13] <surviver> gnea, i got this weird thing :s i do rm -df and stuff he doesnt say anything he gives new line, like it is ok but then when i take look there lot of files (17 giga) in it some are locked other arnt
[01:13] <jrib> flowingfire: what video card do you have?
[01:13] <flowingfire> jrib: Not sure... It's built into my laptop I think...
[01:13] <flowingfire> Actually, I think it's ATI
[01:13] <nexous> defrysk: On startup I should have had the option your saying?
[01:13] <Gerrit> PriceChild: A user asks me whether I can support him/her regarding my opinion on comparing Fedora and Ubuntu. That's what I'm doing. I have cited things that I like about *Ubuntu and cited things tat I do not like about it.
[01:14] <nexous> I read a tutorial showing I have to edit menu.lst and add fedora option to it.
[01:14] <defrysk> nexous, if you have ubuntu's grub installed yes
[01:14] <Gerrit> PriceChild: In my opinion, that counts as support.
[01:14] <nexous> defrysk: i thought I did, how do i check? :-p
[01:14] <defrysk> nexous, reboot and have a look at the bootloaders options ? and have a look at menu.list first
[01:15] <Gerrit> I like the hardware recognition and the seperation between the distribution installation and software installation. I dislike the package manager for the reasons I cited. I think giving my opinion when a user asks me to counts as support.
[01:15] <jrib> flowingfire: ok, I only know that if you have an nvidia card you can use 'nvidia-settings', but I don't know how to do it with an ATI.  Try searching for 'ati tvout ubuntu', I'm getting a few hits on google
[01:15] <Gnea> Gerrit: well, i think that you'll find, over time, that even though there's a lack of obvious timestamping, that the system is actually much more robust than RPM.  RPM is nothing more than a patchwork of an originally horribly written package management system.  i used it about a decade ago and it was dreadful... not much has changed in that regard since.  I don't consider 10 days as a good timeframe to judge a package management syste
[01:15] <nexous> I'm in menu.lst right now, fedora is no where in it.
[01:15] <flowingfire> thx.. ok
[01:15] <surviver> jrib,  hy there back got litte prob (again :p) i wanted to delete my backup located /media/sda4/backup , some files are locked some arent i tried rm -drf and stuff but he wont delete hem :( no error message just blanc line
[01:15] <nexous> I'm just not sure what to put in the kernel and initrd fields.
[01:15] <Ireal> nexous: why don't you look at the grub file of your fedora config ?
[01:16] <defrysk> nexous, that surprises me, I would reinitiate grub , to let it detect fedora's kernel
[01:16] <nexous> Ireal: I'm not sure where it's located :-p
[01:16] <jrib> surviver: you shouldn't need the "-d".  Did you use sudo?
[01:16] <nexous> defrysk: how do I do that?
[01:16] <valdas> hey, anyone has hp dv6000?
[01:16] <surviver> jrib, dit without d and did with sudo no succes
[01:16] <defrysk> there should be a way of recovering grub in the installation disk of ubuntu
[01:16] <defrysk> !grub > nexous
[01:17] <Ind[y] > How can I make a .deb file for my Python program?
[01:17] <elkbuntu> Ind[y] , ask in #ubuntu-motu :)
[01:17] <nexous> Alright.
[01:17] <ArtVandalae> Hi guys, I just got a wireless card for my Feisty machine. It's installed okay, but when I type: ifconfig it doesn't appear in there. If I try ifconfig eth1 up. it doesn't work. It's a broadcom card, are all the required broadcom drivers shipped with Feisty?
[01:17] <PriceChild> Ind[y] , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New will be a good read (bottom section)
[01:17] <Gerrit> Gnea: The timestamping is not a major issue. However, the fact that packages asks questions interactively, is. I would like to seperate configuration from installation, because: (1) during installation, I don't know the answers to those questions (2) I would like to be able to 'walk away' during a big installation/upgrade lasting an hour or more. I am aware that it's possible to disable interactive configuration, but since debian packages are not desig
[01:17] <PriceChild> Gerrit, Gnea, You are offtopic, Please move on.
[01:18] <Gerrit> Gnea: It is true that ten days is a good timeframe to judge a package management style.
[01:18] <surviver> artvandalae, ifconfig is only wired connection that u can see
[01:18] <Gerrit> PriceChild: I disagree.
[01:18] <zero> hello
[01:18] <Ind[y] > ok, thanks guys
[01:18] <jrib> Gerrit: this channel is only for support, you can speak about this topic in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:18] <sipior> not really offtopic, just pedantic and tedious
[01:18] <surviver> artvandalae, try iwconifg
[01:18] <Gerrit> jrib: A user asks me to compare fedora and ubuntu. In comparing this, I support him in choosing a distribution.
[01:19] <jrib> Gerrit: do it #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:19] <defrysk> Gerrit, dont argue please
[01:19] <Ireal> oh, i thought he was trying to start a flamewar;P
[01:19] <Gerrit> Right. Okay.
[01:19] <surviver> ^
[01:19] <OldPink> Hi
[01:20] <Gnea> Gerrit: of course, you are entitled to your own opinion, and hopefully you'll enjoy the fact that timestamps are, indeed, made available within the package management system via ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info/  although I do admit that that is a bit of an issue, and maybe we should take this to #ubuntu-offtopic since the discussion doesn't seem to be helpful to other ubuntu users.
[01:20] <Gnea> read what i just said.
[01:21] <surviver> jrib, oke found a way to delete them lol i just set off the locked files permissions in gui :D
[01:21] <nico_> big storm going on here outside :D
[01:21] <ciacon> any hint what this could mean??  ==>>>        sudo insmod /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/extra/ov51x-jpeg.ko          insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/extra/ov51x-jpeg.ko': -1 File exists
[01:23] <[ThC] Primski> nico_ where are you ? :o
[01:23] <OldPink> I feel like blogging
[01:23] <OldPink> But what about....
[01:23] <cafuego> chickens, blog about chickens
 can any1 assist me in a problem?...i want to install gizmo 2 be able 2 make calls on messenger...i donwloaded the files onto my desktop...now what....how do i make adept see them?
[01:23] <OldPink> Sorted
[01:23] <[ThC] Primski> everybody wants to be a jurnalist :PX
[01:24] <PriceChild> !offtopic > OldPink
[01:24] <OldPink> I don't have a category under which chickens fall :P
[01:24] <ziroday> fritz: what files?
[01:24] <Ireal> OldPink: to become ontopic, you could blog about ubuntu!
[01:24] <PriceChild> fritz, amsn is in the repositories which allows voice calls...
[01:24] <OldPink> My last blog was about Ubuntu actually. :)
[01:24] <OldPink> Oh no, second from last
[01:24] <[ThC] Primski> show
[01:24] <[ThC] Primski> lets see
[01:24] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, the netherlands
[01:24] <surviver> anyone can help? i got like 5000 locked files i want to unlock them at once but there in submaps and stuff ?
[01:24] <[ThC] Primski> we'll be the judge of that ;)
[01:24] <OldPink> My most recent one was about my host's downtime :S
[01:25] <[ThC] Primski> nico_ oh, should be here soon then :S im in slovenia, like 1000km southern ;)
[01:25] <jrib> surviver: what are the permissions on them
[01:25] <sipior> surviver: what's a submap?
[01:25] <fritz> well i need 2 make calls on yahoo
[01:25] <[ThC] Primski> getting cloudy allready :s
[01:25] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, ok, dunno big thunder and a lot of rain here :D
[01:25] <fritz> can i do that from amsn?
[01:25] <jrib> OldPink: you can talk about blogging in #ubuntu-offtopic, but this channel is really busy, so it is for ubuntu support only
[01:25] <[ThC] Primski> lol, in these hot days, a few drops wont kill anyone :P
[01:25] <surviver> jrib, only read so when i go set them to write read i can delete them but there like 500 files and in them again 400 files etc
[01:25] <fritz> well i need 2 make calls on yahoo can i do that from amsn?
[01:26] <surviver> sipior, files :) where u put stuff in xD
[01:26] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, hot days? it's been raining here for a week
[01:26] <[ThC] Primski> :O
[01:26] <PriceChild> fritz, no amsn is just for msn.... sorry i misread you're question
[01:26] <jrib> surviver: if you use sudo, you won't need to mess with permissions
[01:26] <[ThC] Primski> we had like 30+ for the past week
[01:26] <PriceChild> fritz, didn't realise you meant yahoo instead of msn
[01:26] <OldPink> Sorry jrib. It's actually quite quiet at the moment, and I was trying to spark some conversation. I'll just idle here for a bit and help out with anything that crops up. :)
[01:26] <jrib> OldPink: thanks
[01:26] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, lol, 30+ is to warm for me but it's better then the rain
[01:26] <surviver> jrib, did sudo rm -rf but he wont delete them :s:s
[01:26] <neil_> It's really worth installing feisty fresh isnt it :)
[01:27] <[ThC] Primski> well nico_ hope ur see barriers will hold :)
[01:27] <jrib> surviver: you get errors?
[01:27] <[ThC] Primski> hate to see such beautifull country get flooded
[01:27] <sipior> surviver: thank you, i haven't been patronised nearly enough lately
[01:27] <neil_> Had hell with my upgrade, but having restricted-packages on its own is way better than old manually installed packages
[01:27] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, we have the Stormvloedkering, that will hold :D
[01:27] <beeman_nl> where should i go if i found an error in the website of https://help.ubuntu.com/
[01:27] <OldPink> neil_: I'd say no. I installed 6.06 and have upgraded throughout and am now at 7.04, never had a problem upgrading
[01:27] <surviver> sipior, yw :)
[01:27] <beeman_nl> i can't seem to find a colofon or something
[01:27] <surviver> jrib, nope just blanc line
[01:27] <[ThC] Primski> nico_ hehe, cool, saw that on discovery yea ;)
[01:27] <neil_> Really.. It may be due to my n00bish past, but my codecs and similar stuff are a headache
[01:27] <jrib> surviver: pastebin the command and all the output please?  are you sure it isn't just taking a while?
[01:28] <surviver> jrib, but when i set a couple the permission to write read and then there unlocked i do the command he deletes those
[01:28] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, yep, even the americans are interested :D
[01:28] <[ThC] Primski> lol
[01:28] <[ThC] Primski> :)
[01:28] <surviver> jrib, ill pastebin sec
[01:28] <surviver> !pastebin
[01:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:28] <OldPink> neil_: In all seriousness, I've NEVER seen a problem when upgrading. And I doubt it's just luck.
[01:28] <OldPink> neil_: Usually I ugrade to the release candidate
[01:29] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, I
[01:29] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, I've been to slovenia once
[01:29] <Ireal> upgrading debian sid can be fun :P
[01:29] <nexous> Anyone dualbooting fedora core 7 and ubuntu feisty?
[01:29] <cafuego> nexous: i am
[01:29] <[ThC] Primski> nico_ rly? cool, i've been to netherlands few times, 3 i think
[01:29] <nico_> [ThC] Primski, but only for 1 minute, we didnt have the right papers with us so we could return :D
[01:29] <[ThC] Primski> lol
[01:29] <defrysk> !ot > nico_
[01:29] <nexous> cafuego: could you pastebin your menu.lst for me/
[01:29] <cafuego> nexous: No, the machine that dualboots isn't on.
[01:29] <[ThC] Primski> nico_ where were u traveling ?
[01:30] <neil_> OldPink: Probably right.. My codecs and streaming is a right mess, but on a fresh install, just added restricted-packages, its 100% better
[01:30] <nexous> cafuego: ehh :/
[01:30] <neil_> prob not the best way to fix it tho
[01:30] <defrysk> !ot > [ThC] Primski
[01:30] <surviver> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27115/
[01:30] <[ThC] Primski> !ot
[01:30] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:30] <cafuego> nexous: Bbasically I created /boot/fedora under grub and put the fedora ekrnel and initrd there, then I added kernel lines for fedora to my menu.lst
[01:30] <OldPink> neil_: I had problems streaming in Firefox in 6.06 and 6.10, they sorted themselves on upgrade to 7.04
[01:30] <[ThC] Primski> !ot doesnt do  anything
[01:30] <[ThC] Primski> just say what your problem is
[01:30] <nexous> cafuego: alright.
[01:31] <[ThC] Primski> off offtopic
[01:31] <[ThC] Primski> hihi
[01:31] <cafuego> nexous: So root (hdx,y) stays the same for grub, you just use kernel /boot/fedora/vmlinuz-whatever root=/dev/whatever rgbh
[01:31] <[ThC] Primski> no spammes allowed a ?
[01:31] <[ThC] Primski> keke we'll shut up
[01:31] <[ThC] Primski> carry on
[01:31] <nexous> cafuego: alright, well I'm trying something like that and going to reboot, hopefully it works.
[01:31] <jrib> surviver: to delete everything in /media/sda4/backup you should do:  sudo rm -rf /media/sda4/backup      Triple check for typos.  If you put a space in the wrong spot you will wipe your drive
[01:31] <nico_> there's a private chat thing
[01:31] <cafuego> nexous: As long as you leabr the Ubuntu lines you can always mount the fedora stuff and copy files off.
[01:31] <[ThC] Primski> its ok, lunch time anyways, bbl
[01:32] <nexous> cafuego: alright.
[01:32] <OldPink> neil_: By all means, fresh install. But it's so much hassle :P
[01:32] <dawn`chorus> nexous, you could pastebin your menu.lst and the output of sudo fdisk -l and I'll look over it for you.
[01:32] <surviver> jrib, thats not the prob :p its seperate partitions :D nothing is on it without backup :) but ill keep my eyes open :)
[01:32] <nexous> dawn`chorus: give me a sec to reboot if it doesn't work and i will :-d
[01:32] <jrib> surviver: but what you pasted did not use correct syntax
[01:32] <ques> hello all
[01:33] <surviver> jrib, lol?
[01:33] <dawn`chorus> nexous, sure.  i wouldnt' do it that way, leading to extra mounts of your ubuntu root partition, but however you like..
[01:33] <jrib> surviver: you need to pass the path to what you want to delete to rm
[01:33] <surviver> jrib, ow yeah i went first to the place that i want to delete then delete it
[01:33] <OldPink> Anyone tried Wubi? I gave it to a friend who offered me $50 to download, install, partition etc. remotely. I told him that was too much hassle for just trying it out, and to either try it himself or use Wubi. I've not heard back from him though :S
[01:33] <nexous> Okay
[01:33] <nexous> I selected fedora core 7 from bootloader.
[01:34] <ques> quick question: i want to install ubuntu LTS as a virtual pc on my windows xp machine, so i can run apache2, php, mysql on it and use it as my test server..... do i download ubuntu server 6.06 LTS from here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download? it says its a virtual pc image, does that mean when i run the ISO it immediatelly installes it as a virtual machine?
[01:34] <nico_> but i'm still having sound problems (actually i dont have any sound at all)
[01:34] <surviver> jrib, now he gives nothing i think hes doing sonthing i ll let u know what comes out just an empty place with blinking cursor
[01:34] <jrib> surviver: he's working
[01:34] <nexous> http://pastebin.ca/588154
[01:35] <surviver> jrib, think so to i hear my hard drive working :p
[01:35] <surviver> jrib, k let see
[01:35] <surviver> jrib, great thx :):)
[01:35] <ubuntuEdgy> good morning all
[01:35] <ques> anyone :)?
[01:35] <surviver> lol good afternoon xD
[01:36] <ubuntuEdgy> ohhh :)
[01:36] <dawn`chorus> nexous, well, pastebin 1. your menu.lst, 2. the output of sudo fdisk -l 3.  the contents of /boot on the Fedora partition.
[01:36] <ziroday> evening ubuntuEdgy
[01:36] <nexous> dawn`chorus: alright, give me a sec.
[01:36] <surviver> lol
[01:36] <nico_> afternoon already?
[01:36] <nexous> dawn`chorus: also, how do i view hda4(the partition of fedora)
[01:36] <OldPink> Afternoon! (just - 12:36 PM)
[01:36] <ubuntuEdgy> evening ziroday
[01:36] <nexous> dawn`chorus: to show the contents.
[01:36] <surviver> oldpink, where u live got same time :D
[01:37] <eyemean> hi, i have a major proble, when i shut down ubuntu, everything closes then ubuntu logo comes up where orange bar becomes black then pc hangs and dose not turn off
[01:37] <dawn`chorus> nexous, sudo mkdir /mnt/hda4 && sudo mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/hda4 && cd /mnt/hda4/boot
[01:37] <nico_> ubuntuEdgy, is it evening there already?
[01:37] <nico_> 13:39 here
[01:37] <nexous> dawn`chorus: alright.
[01:37] <ziroday> nico_: no tis evening here (asia)
[01:37] <ziroday> 8its
[01:37] <OldPink> surviver: Offtopic a bit, but in the UK? Near Newcastle. :) You?
[01:37] <nico_> cool
[01:38] <ubuntuEdgy> 12.38 here :)
[01:38] <surviver> oldpink, ha in belgium :))
[01:38] <OldPink> ... I can see myself getting told off for offtopicing again. Come in #ubuntu-offtopic? :)
[01:38] <nico_> belgium, our neighboors
[01:38] <mezziah> 13.38.. and i just woke up
[01:38] <surviver> lol
[01:39] <ubuntuEdgy> me too
[01:39] <nexous> dawn`chorus: When i run sudo mkdir....... Mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[01:39] <nico_> mezziah where are you now?
[01:39] <surviver> nico_, nl?
[01:39] <nico_> same time
[01:39] <ubuntuEdgy> loosen woman is on guys >:o
[01:39] <nico_> im from NL
[01:39] <mezziah> i'm in western germany right now and you?
[01:39] <mezziah> oh, okay then
[01:39] <nico_> netherlands
[01:39] <surviver> nico, hehe thought so :D
[01:39] <dawn`chorus> nexous, what filesystem type did you make hda4?
[01:40] <iwkse> ehy guys, your support is needed: http://www.noooxml.org/petition
[01:40] <nexous> dawn`chorus: it's unknown :/
[01:40] <nexous> ext3 do i want it?
[01:40] <nico_> but does anyone know how to fix a sound problem? i dont have anything muted, and my volume is turned up enough
[01:40] <jrib> !offtopic | mezziah, surviver, ubuntuEdgy, iwkse
[01:40] <ubotu> mezziah, surviver, ubuntuEdgy, iwkse: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:40] <nico_> survivor, where are you?
[01:40] <mezziah> jrib: yes i know, thanks for the information tho
[01:40] <dakar> yo brother
[01:41] <dawn`chorus> nexous, so when you run sudo fdisk-l, fdisk calls hda4 unknown filesystem type?
[01:41] <nico_> man, somebody get a life or something
[01:41] <nexous> yes.
[01:41] <nico_> the offtopic thing is getting anoying
[01:41] <nexous> dawn`chorus: actually, it calls it Linux VLM in that, but unknown in gparted.
[01:41] <nexous> LVM*
[01:41] <mezziah> nico_: do you have ubuntu or kubuntu installed?
[01:41] <jrib> nico_: this channel is too busy, the only way to keep it useful is to ask non support discussions to move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:41] <ubuntuEdgy> i need a life :(
[01:42] <dawn`chorus> nexous, i have no clue what that is, bro.  i'd have went ext3.  :}
[01:42] <nico_> mezziah, ubuntu
[01:42] <mezziah> nico_: did you install kde-apps recently?
[01:42] <nexous> dawn`chorus: I'll set it to ext2
[01:42] <dawn`chorus> nexous, why ext2 and not 3. 3 is just ext2 with journaling so you can quicky fsck it.
[01:42] <nico_> mezziah: perhaps some KDE things got installed recently
[01:43] <nexous> dawn`chorus: formating it at ext3 already.
[01:43] <mezziah> nico_: you could browse your current processes and see if arts is running, if so, kill it and try again
[01:43] <nexous> I'm about to give up and throw my drive back to 30gb and just run ubuntu without fedora.
[01:44] <OldPink> Fedora
[01:44] <OldPink> Is Fedora worth trying?
[01:44] <Tm_T> what is all this talk about Fedora? just quit it thanks
[01:44] <OldPink> Tm_T chill!
[01:44] <dawn`chorus> nexous, oh.  well, adding Fedora to your existing menu.lst is really easy ... one you know how.  Fedora will use initrd just like Ubuntu, so just ... well, yeah anyway
[01:44] <mezziah> OldPink: i wouldn't say it's better that ubuntu but yes, it's worth
[01:44] <nico_> mezziah, no arts running here
[01:45] <Tm_T> OldPink: I don't like to be frozen
[01:45] <nexous> dawn`chorus: I'm just not sure what to add to kernel and initrd options in menu.lst
[01:45] <nexous> dawn`chorus: I'll post my menu and fdisk like you said before.
[01:45] <dawn`chorus> nexous, that's where the contents of Fedora's boot come in.  :)
[01:45] <nexous> dawn`chorus: I did not install fedora's bootloader.
[01:46] <nexous> dawn`chorus: tutorial told me not to as it would overwrite ubuntu's
[01:46] <ArtVandalae> My wireless card says it supports WEP and WPA encryption schemes, but I need WPA-PSK... can my card still support it (even if it's software based encryption)?
[01:46] <dawn`chorus> nexous, that's true.  you did it right.  before i learned, i've overwrite the MBR and then use Super Grub Disc to fix it.
[01:47] <nexous> oh.
[01:47] <nico_> mezziah, i'm deinstalling a lot of kde-libs now (apt autoremove)
[01:47] <Sergemine> Hi guys!
[01:47] <nico_> retrying now
[01:47] <mezziah> nico_: there's no need for that - what soundcard do you have?
[01:47] <nexous> dawn`chorus: http://pastebin.ca/588166
[01:47] <nexous> dawn`chorus: menu.lst ^^
[01:48] <nico_> hm
[01:48] <Sergemine> Does anyone know if there are drivers for Realtek HD Audio ouncard?
[01:48] <nico_> i think it's a intell card
[01:48] <beeman_nl> where should i go if i found an error in the website of https://help.ubuntu.com/
[01:48] <dawn`chorus> nexous, that's Ubuntu's menu.lst?
[01:48] <beeman_nl> anyone got a clue? :)
[01:48] <mezziah> integrated?
[01:48] <nexous> dawn`chorus: yes.
[01:48] <nico_> mezziah, yes, Acer notebook
[01:48] <Sergemine> DRIVERS for Realtek HD Audio ouncard????
[01:48] <nexous> dawn`chorus: feisty /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:48] <Gost> hi
[01:48] <nico_> it worked before
[01:49] <nexous> dawn`chorus: http://pastebin.ca/588170 <-- fdisk
[01:49] <mezziah> ah ok, i see. did you already try searching google '<acer nootboke type> sound'? i bet there are more persons out there that had probs with it
[01:49] <jrib> beeman_nl: depends on what part.  If it's on the wiki, you can fix it.  If not, you can file a bug somewhere on launchpad.net or speak with the folks at #ubuntu-doc
[01:49] <Sergemine> DRIVERS for Realtek HD Audio souncard???? Are there any? For HD Sound in linux at all?
[01:49] <beeman_nl> jrib: thanks
[01:49] <dawn`chorus> nexous, what we really need is the name of the kernel and initrd files.
[01:49] <beeman_nl> jrib: i guess i'll be going to ubuntu-doc, it is not on the community part
[01:50] <nico_> mezziah, well it cant be drivers, because my sound card worked right after the fresh install but on day it just didnt work
[01:50] <nexous> dawn`chorus: It's core 7
[01:50] <supremesonic> !avahi-dae
[01:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avahi-dae - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:50] <mezziah> nico_: since when doesn't it work anymore? did you already try rebooting?
[01:51] <dawn`chorus> nexous, yes.  well, it'll be something like vmlinuz-2.6.21-2 or something for the kernel.
[01:51] <nexous> dawn`chorus: 2.6.21-1.3194.fc7
[01:51] <nico_> yeah i have to reboot or shutdown all the time because my hibernate doesnt work either
[01:51] <supremesonic> anyone know what this might be?
[01:51] <supremesonic> root@hotbox:/home/user# lsof -i -n | grep 32768
[01:51] <supremesonic> avahi-dae 4883  avahi   14u  IPv4  16490       UDP *:32768
[01:51] <kbrooks> supremesonic, um
[01:51] <ericrw> supremesonic, I think you're looking for avahi (or avahi-daemon).  It provides zeroconf networking
[01:52] <mezziah>  umm...
[01:52] <supremesonic> ericrw, so I should't worry about it?
[01:52] <ericrw> supremesonic, you should embrace it!
[01:52] <SeveredCross> Hey y'all, what's the Windows key on a keyboard map to in Ubuntu/
[01:52] <dawn`chorus> nexous, and initrd.img- ?
[01:52] <SeveredCross> Is it hyper?
[01:52] <nico_> mezziah, and i dont feel like reinstalling again :D
[01:52] <mezziah> nico_: yes, i belive that
[01:52] <mezziah> believe*
[01:53] <wols> SeveredCross: meta?
[01:53] <SeveredCross> Is it meta?
[01:53] <SeveredCross> I have no bloody idea.
[01:53] <SeveredCross> What are Super and Hyper then?
[01:53] <ericrw> supremesonic, it lets you find computers and devices on the network.  For instance, it will automatically detect network file shares and printers on the network.  (not Windows shares or printers, but SFTP servers.. and Bonjour/Rendevous enabled printers)
[01:54] <nexous> dawn`chorus: also there is more in menu.lst, just the other ubuntu recovery, etc. View cut them off.
[01:54] <npnufn> I want to change color of selected text and it's background.  How can I
[01:54] <gdb> SeveredCross: I'm not sure, but CTRL-ESC has the same function.  Perhaps that's helpful. :-)
[01:54] <ericrw> SeveredCross, Super is the menu-key usually
[01:54] <SeveredCross> Thanks gdb.
[01:54] <supremesonic> ericrw, okay. My internet have just been quite slow, and when I was seeking google it tend to fail to find it after some time
[01:55] <ericrw> supremesonic, wireless internet?
[01:55] <gdb> SeveredCross: also, SHIFT+F10 is the menu key
[01:55] <dawn`chorus> nexous, i'm keeping the F7 entry where you put it.  did you find the filename of the initrd image yet?
[01:55] <supremesonic> ericrw, yeah. But the connection is like  75% good
[01:55] <SeveredCross> Aha!
[01:55] <SeveredCross> The Windows key is Hyper.
[01:55] <SeveredCross> ^_^
[01:55] <nexous> dawn`chorus: no.
[01:56] <mezziah> anyone knows a resource for e17 themes except get-e.org?
[01:56] <ericrw> supremesonic, avahi will automatically configure your network interface if it detects a network card with a line protocol up which has not received an IP through DHCP
[01:56] <npnufn> I want to change color of selected text and it's background.  How can I?  What are the configuration files for the colors.
[01:57] <nexous> dawn`chorus: if I locate for initrd i get 3 of them,
[01:57] <sipior> SeveredCross: i believe those can be configured via System->Preferences->Keyboard
[01:57] <SeveredCross> Thanks everyone.
[01:57] <ericrw> supremesonic, that is, if you were to plugin your *wired* network connection, but you had no firewall/router setup (or dhcp was broken), then avahi would automatically give your wired interface (say, eth0)  an IP address.
[01:57] <dawn`chorus> nexous, ah.  yes.  i remember now.  pastebin all the contents of F7's /boot.  i'll sort it out.
[01:57] <nexous> dawn`chorus: /boot/initrd-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7.img
[01:57] <nexous> dawn`chorus: I'm not sure where the boot is located for f7
[01:58] <nexous> dawn`chorus: All i know is i installed into hda4
[01:58] <supremesonic> ericrw, im just worry I have a trojan or something there consume my consume my internet.
[01:58] <ericrw> supremesonic, however, that *shouldn't* affect your wireless access as it shouldn't be setting a default route...
[01:59] <dawn`chorus> nexous, i mean the /boot folder for F7 when I say that.
[01:59] <npnufn> any one knows the configuration files for the gtk-colors
[01:59] <nexous> it's just /boot
[01:59] <tree> hi. does anyone happen to know of any punctuation checker?
[01:59] <ericrw> supremesonic, but I mention it because avahi is known to automatically configure network interfaces that do NOT have an active line protocol (aka, no cable plugged in)
[01:59] <niekie> Hi all, I'm having a bit of a problem.. it seems all identd daemons that come with the Ubuntu server repositories fail to work and return ERROR:NO-USER (I am forcing the IDENTD to output my user ID now, and that works, but it fails to look up the real user)
[01:59] <niekie> Anybody know what causes that?
[01:59] <nexous> dawn`chorus: media/_boot/grub
[01:59] <ericrw> supremesonic, and that has been a source of repeated problems for my wife - but only for her access to our zeroconf based devices at home, not to the internet.
[02:00] <Ausicaemia> Does anybody know why changes to Startup Programs don't get saved on my machine? Is there are a way to edit the file directly or something?
[02:00] <sipior> tree: that strikes me as a very hard problem to solve. i've never heard of such a beast.
[02:00] <supremesonic> ericrw, it found my wireless internet and configured it automatic
[02:00] <Ausicaemia> Anybody?
[02:00] <tree> sipior, i only found checkers for windows
[02:00] <supremesonic> ericrw, http://rafb.net/p/TBJCt957.html
[02:01] <nexous> dawn`chorus: in that I have, initrd-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7.img, System.map-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7, and vmlinz-2.6.21-1.3194.fc7
[02:01] <ericrw> supremesonic, when you lose your internet next time, run:  'route -n'.   Compare that to the 'route -n' of when your internet is working.
[02:01] <dawn`chorus> nexous, http://pastebin.ca/588177  <- your new menu.lst.  you can change to root=UUID later, if it works.
[02:01] <ericrw> supremesonic, also, check  the output of 'ifconfig' for both cases
[02:01] <niekie> !ident
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ident - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <niekie> !identd
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about identd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <supremesonic> ericrw, thanks I will :)
[02:01] <sipior> tree: but surely they don't figure out where to put commas and such? or were you speaking of something different?
[02:01] <ziroday> !find iden > niekie ( see pm form ubotu)
[02:02] <nexous> dawn`chorus: so should they be /boot/ or /media/_boot/grub?
[02:02] <tree> sipior, setting commas and such is what i am looking for and what some win apps are offering
[02:02] <niekie> ziroday: the problem is, all identd's with Ubuntu don't seem to work :S
[02:02] <niekie> Unless I force a specific output, that is..
[02:02] <tree> sipior, which proves: it is possible
[02:02] <nexous> dawn`chorus: because i foudn those files in media/boot now? so just add change to media/_boot?
[02:02] <ericrw> supremesonic, also, if "your wireless is automatically detected", make sure that you're connecting to YOUR access point.  you might be roaming between two access points (one being your neighbor's) and dropping while it transfers
[02:02] <ziroday> niekie: dunno sorry
[02:03] <niekie> ziroday: allright, no problem :)
[02:03] <dawn`chorus> nexous, let's test what we got, first.
[02:03] <sipior> tree: interesting. it seems like a terrible idea, though perhaps computers are managing english better than users now :-)
[02:03] <supremesonic> ericrw, it are :) I had to set my password for it, and all of the others wireless is encrypted also
[02:03] <nexous> dawn`chorus: alright.
[02:03] <tree> sipior, there is a linux tool for german punctuation, but this time, I need english
[02:04] <tree> sipior, that is what computers are there for
[02:04] <sipior> tree: well, best of luck finding it. you might try staroffice, if any linux app had it, it would
[02:04] <nexous> dawn`chorus: rebooting now.
[02:04] <tree> sipior, the problem is, english is not my native language
[02:04] <dawn`chorus> nexous, cross your fingers.  :)
[02:04] <swarna> Hi,I am trying to create ubuntu package for firefox-2.0.0.4 but i am getting an error related to nsFontMetricsPSPango .cpp
[02:04] <nexous> dawn`chorus: I am. :p
[02:04] <tree> sipior, i believe they announced it for 2.4
[02:05] <swarna> somebody please help me in solving this
[02:05] <dawn`chorus> nexous, expect code to fly by.  no bootsplash.
[02:05] <ericrw> tree, sipior:  openoffice.org supports German.
[02:05] <tree> sipior, but 2.4 is supossed to get released end of 2008
[02:05] <ericrw> and english...
[02:05] <nexous> dawn`chorus: I selected fc7 from bootloader again, cannot mount selected partition still.
[02:05] <Ausicaemia> Does anybody know why changes to Startup Programs don't get saved on my machine? Is there are a way to edit the file directly or something?
[02:05] <tree> ericrw, i know, but i need it for an english document
[02:06] <sipior> tree: we'll just agree to disagree on the role of computers in teaching people to write properly :)
[02:06] <nexous> dawn`chorus: give me a sec to do something.
[02:06] <dawn`chorus> nexous, must be that weird filesystem type you've used.  i thought that was what initrd was supposed to take care of, but maybe something's wrong.  I can't be sure.  you'd better ask in #fedora.
[02:06] <ericrw> tree, I just scrolled up -- you want it to automatically place commas?  Thats really not a good idea.
[02:07] <tree> ericrw, i placed commas, but need it to be checked
[02:07] <ericrw> tree, I don't think it would be possible for a computer to automatically place commas, it is too flexible a language.
[02:07] <SeveredCross> swarna, there are already packages.
[02:07] <afan> alo
[02:07] <SeveredCross> There's a gnomefreaks repository that has Firefox 2.0.0.4 and Thunderbird 2.0.whatever packages.
[02:07] <tree> ericrw, sipior: seems like, i'll need to do it manually
[02:08] <nico_> still got no sound
[02:08] <swarna> SeveredCross, I have added a patch to it to support tamil printing
[02:08] <ericrw> tree, http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_commaproof.html
[02:09] <tree> ericrw, thank you. i'll have a look
[02:09] <gnomefreak> swarna: join #ubuntu-mozillateam and ask
[02:09] <sipior> tree: yes, but consider it an opportunity to get a better feel for a foreign language. ask a native speaker to check your work, and you'll get a better feel for the language than letting a computer do the work (and not as well as you could)
[02:10] <tree> sipior, there is some truth to it.
[02:11] <SeveredCross> Wheee Beryl.
[02:11] <nico_> anyone got a idea why my sound wo'nt work anymore?
[02:11] <mezziah> sipior: so true, although it gets frustrating sometimes.
[02:13] <swarna> gnomefreak, but no response from ubuntu-mozillateam
[02:13] <Gnea> PriceChild: sorry for the problem before, won't happen again.
[02:13] <Ausicaemia> Nevermind, finally fixed it.
[02:14] <Ausicaemia> Was a permissions error on the autostart folder
[02:14] <shakus> i have a very odd entry under 'active connections' (my machine connecting to some dsl line on port 30001) in firestarter that shows up neither with netstat -a or wireshark. is this some sort of bug in firestarter or something more omnious?
[02:14] <tree> ericrw, it is an interesting document. thanks again
[02:15] <Ausicaemia> Anyone know anything about FSTAB?
[02:15] <[ThC] Primski> what would you like to know ?
[02:15] <[ThC] Primski> !ask
[02:15] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:16] <Ausicaemia> Well, I have my FAT32 archive partition (/dev/hda5) mounted at /media/hda5 thanks to automatix
[02:16] <Ausicaemia> But when I change the /media/hda5 to /media/archives, it won't mount.
[02:16] <Ausicaemia> I get an error.
[02:16] <[ThC] Primski> what error would that be ?
[02:17] <[ThC] Primski> and post your fstab
[02:17] <mezziah> !paste
[02:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:17] <sipior> shakus: how do you know the machine is connecting to a machine on a dsl line?
[02:17] <Ausicaemia> Didn't get a name, just when I rebooted Ubuntu the Usplash spat out "FAILED" at Mount Local Filesystems
[02:17] <dawn`chorus> Ausicaemia, create a symlink from /media/hda5 to /media/archives.  :)
[02:17] <Ausicaemia> I'll post the line though
[02:17] <shakus> sipior: reverse dns :)
[02:17] <Ausicaemia> Oh yeah also, when I tried to mount it manually it complained about permissions
[02:18] <[ThC] Primski> you need to be root to mount
[02:18] <Ausicaemia> But it doesn't when the line is /media/hda5
[02:18] <[ThC] Primski> so, sudo mount...
[02:18] <[ThC] Primski> also, does the /media/archive folder exist ?
[02:18] <Ausicaemia> Yeah I know that, but It doesn't complain about it when I'm not root if the mount point is /media/hda5
[02:18] <Ausicaemia> No, is that the reason?
[02:19] <Ausicaemia> Its been a long time since I did anything with Fstab
[02:19] <[ThC] Primski> could be, i think folder has to exists prior to mounting
[02:19] <[ThC] Primski> do mkdir and then try again
[02:19] <Ausicaemia> k.
[02:19] <drowner> hello all
[02:19] <mezziah> Ausicaemia: the exact error message would help us i think
[02:19] <sipior> shakus: unreliable at best :) if it troubles you, use a known good machine to scan with a packet sniffer. what sort of traffice is purpotedly going to this machine?
[02:19] <dawn`chorus> !hi | drowner
[02:19] <Ausicaemia> I'll do that, reboot, and post results.
[02:19] <ubotu> drowner: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:19] <Ausicaemia> Brb.
[02:19] <drowner> i was wanting a bit of generic advice
[02:19] <drowner> i want to create a seperate /home partition
[02:19] <dawn`chorus> drowner, what's on your mind?
[02:20] <drowner> and i found psychocats' guide, which is sensational
[02:20] <swarna> SeveredCross, Do you have any idea about this
[02:20] <SeveredCross> swarna: Nope.
[02:20] <SeveredCross> No clue.
[02:20] <SeveredCross> Never could get Firefox to properly compile. ^_^
[02:20] <drowner> but i would like to know what this line means before i type it in (/new refers to the new home folder, we are currently in the old /home)
[02:20] <drowner> find . -depth -print0 | sudo cpio --null --sparse -pvd /new/
[02:21] <shakus> sipior: no traffic as far as i can tell. it's just there
[02:21] <mezziah> okay now i also have a question, it might be an easy one, but i really don't get it. how can i set up custom fonts for terminals like rxtv? and how can i see what fonts i can use for terminals?
[02:21] <dawn`chorus> drowner, that's called "magic pixie dust".
[02:21] <swarna> SeveredCross, the error i am getting is in nsFontMetricsPSPango.cpp
[02:21] <drowner> dawn`chorus: pardon?
[02:21] <drowner> lol
[02:22] <dawn`chorus> drowner, i'm only kidding.  if you really want to learn you could search online for those commands, or read their man pages.  man find.  man cpio
[02:22] <sipior> shakus: and what process is associated with this connection on your side?
[02:22] <swarna> SeveredCross, it is getting compiled properly but the problem is only while packaging
[02:22] <drowner> dawn`chorus: i DID that., but its the combination that is confusing me
[02:22] <dawn`chorus> drowner, do you know what a 'pipe' is?
[02:22] <shakus> sipior: firestarter doesn't say
[02:22] <mezziah> http://www3.get-e.org/Screenshots/User_Submitted/_images/sharp.png <- i'd like to use this font, but i don't have a clue how to install and configure it.  i already tried searching google and stuff.
[02:23] <swarna> nobody is giving response in ubuntu-mozillateam
[02:23] <drowner> dawn`chorus: yeah i think so. it takes the outpur of one command and sticks it in another?
[02:23] <drowner> outpuT
[02:23] <SeveredCross> swarna: No bloody clue, don't look at me.
[02:23] <SeveredCross> I've never made a Debian package.
[02:23] <SeveredCross> Always fails for me.
[02:23] <sipior> shakus: odd. i would get a packet sniffer on that connection and see what comes out.
[02:23] <ZeroA4> mezziah, do you have que font file ?
[02:23] <dawn`chorus> drowner, exactly.  it redirects the output of a command from standard output (your screen) and turns it into the input (which would usually be your keyboard strokes) of the next command.
[02:23] <sipior> shakus: it's probably nothing. still, can't hurt
[02:23] <mezziah> ZeroA4: i don't know what you mean.
[02:24] <Devyll^> I need comunicate (chat) with another user which is logged at my server with ssh. How can I do that ? (he is logged with ssh to my server. I am logged with ssh to my server . we need to chat) can anyone help me please ?
[02:24] <ZeroA4> mezziah, the file of the font...
[02:24] <primski> devyll^hmm there is a command, i know, i've used it, cant remember tho :S anyone ?
[02:24] <sipior> Devyll^: try "write"
[02:25] <Devyll^> what is this ? a module to be installed ?
[02:25] <mezziah> ZeroA4: no, though i have installed the xfonts-terminus package using apt-get.
[02:25] <sipior> Devyll^: no, it should already be there. "man write"
[02:25] <shakus> sipior: i ran wireshark for a couple of minutes but nothing came up
[02:26] <mezziah> i bet there's a good resource for installing custom terminal fonts, but i can't find it.
[02:26] <shakus> sipior: http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2443/screenshotjb3.png
[02:27] <ZeroA4> mezziah, the font must have a file... it can be in a package like the one you installed... but if not you can install it by donwload the file and drag and drop it to the font folder
[02:27] <drowner> dawn`chorus: Ok, i think i know what the 'find' command does
[02:27] <drowner> dawn`chorus:  But im not sure why we need to cpio. Like, why not just cp it?
[02:28] <sipior> shakus: i assume that address doesn't correspond to any of the five CLOSE_WAITs you have?
[02:28] <shakus> sipior: no
[02:28] <mezziah> ZeroA4: yes, okay. do you have any resources for other fonts which i can use for terminals?
[02:28] <dawn`chorus> drowner, aysiu must've thought that working w/ the archives was easier/more efficient/etc.
[02:29] <ZeroA4> mezziah, don't know...
[02:29] <sipior> shakus: odd that it doesn't show up at all in netstat.
[02:29] <mezziah> ZeroA4: ok, but thanks for your help.
[02:29] <drowner> oh ok
[02:29] <sipior> shakus: i hate to suggest it, but you may want to run a rootkit checker on your machine
[02:29] <sipior> shakus: do you run tripwire or the like?
[02:30] <Martinp23> Is there a way to chkdsk /f NTFS partitions within ubuntu?
[02:30] <shakus> sipior: i'll check it out now
[02:30] <sipior> shakus: of course i'm not thinking about this clearly...where does firestarter get its information about active connections?
[02:31] <SeveredCross> There's ntfsfix Martinp23.
[02:31] <shakus> sipior: i have no idea. iptables or the like?
[02:32] <sipior> shakus: i guess my point is that they should be getting the information from the same place
[02:32] <sipior> shakus: if you retart the firestater control app, does the connection persist
[02:32] <sipior> ?
[02:32] <shakus> sipior: yes
[02:33] <shakus> sipior: i've added deny rules for both the host and the port. i think i'll just go offline/reboot and see what happens
[02:33] <Martinp23> SeveredCross: Thanks :)
[02:34] <sipior> shakus: yeah, sounds reasonable. best of luck to you.
[02:34] <herz1> I installed the at-spi-dbgsym package, because I got some warning while running an application in development
[02:35] <shakus> sipior: i don't see how this could possibly be a trojan, unless it was in a nocd crack i used with cedega (for a game which i own:p), but that shouldn't have been a problem
[02:35] <herz1> how do I tell gdb that /usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules/libatk-bridge.so contains the symbols for the dl_open()ed libatk-bridge.so?
[02:35] <sipior> shakus: just keep an eye on it in future. probably nothing.
[02:37] <eyemean> im new to linux, ive installed firestarter, wondering if i need to install antivirus aswell?
[02:37] <eyemean> soz, im using ubuntu 7.04
[02:37] <sipior> eyemean: generally, no
[02:38] <eyemean> but of course firewall is good is needed?
[02:38] <sipior> eyemean: properly configured, yes
[02:38] <eyemean> any recomendations for configuration sipior?
[02:39] <dawn`chorus> eyemean, you may want AV for scanning emails, flash drives, you know, stuff that gets spread around to other (possible windows) computers.
[02:39] <sipior> eyemean: block everything you don't absolutely need :)
[02:40] <eyemean> yes good idea dawn chorus, could u recomend antivirus? or should i just use avg linux
[02:40] <eyemean> cheers sipior, lol
[02:41] <dawn`chorus> eyemean, clamav is in the repos.
[02:41] <supremesonic> 2:#java
[02:42] <mattm591_> can anyone here help me with some problems i have with internal bluetooth on my easynote gn45 laptop
[02:42] <sipior> that's interesting. do folks here use antivirus software on their linux boxes often? i got the impression that was more more common for mail servers than desktop boxes.
[02:42] <dawn`chorus> sipior, i scan my flash drives fairly regularly.  mail less often.
[02:42] <sipior> of course, i am incurably lazy, which may have helped to cement this impression.
[02:43] <dawn`chorus> gmail filters executables from attachments, so i feel comfortable rarely scanning mail.
[02:44] <swami> hi
[02:44] <GeekMaster1> For some reason I cannot enable 60 HZ
[02:44] <GeekMaster1> My Xorg is here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=483852
[02:44] <GeekMaster1> Can ANYONE help me?
[02:44] <sipior> dawn`chorus: have you ever found an infection on one of your flash drives?
[02:44] <swami> geek master..
[02:44] <swami> even i cant enable it :(
[02:44] <swami> just 50 hertz :-s
[02:45] <RAOF> GeekMaster1, swami: It's not 50Hz.  The nvidia driver is just deliberately misreporting your refresh rate.
[02:45] <swami> i also need to enable 32 bit depth and 1280x1024
[02:45] <swami> ohhh
[02:45] <RAOF> GeekMaster1, swami: Your real refresh rate is almost certainly 60Hz (and you can see this in nvidia-settings)
[02:45] <dawn`chorus> sipior, yes.  an executable that Windows deliberately put on there.  :)
[02:45] <frojnd> why my java won't work?
[02:45] <GeekMaster1> RAOF: How do I check for sure what my refresh rate is?
[02:45] <frojnd> I can't visit sites taht support java :S
[02:45] <swami> nvidia settings..
[02:45] <swami> lemme see :D
[02:45] <frojnd> I mean, I can visit them but..
[02:45] <sipior> dawn`chorus: heh, damnable windows :)
[02:46] <mattm591_> does anyone know how i can see if ubuntu has found my bluetooth adapter?
[02:46] <GeekMaster1> RAOF: Is there a command for me to check my refresh rate?
[02:46] <emilio> hi
[02:46] <frojnd> mattm591_: when u plug it in, there is somekind of alert or message
[02:47] <tobi-wan> hi folks! i have a program that uses shared memory. when i re-start udev, the program subsequently fails with shm_open(): permission denied
[02:47] <mattm591_> frojnd: its internal so there i cant plug it in or take it out
[02:47] <tobi-wan> a reboot resolves the solution, but i ask myself: is there a way to restart udev without restarting my computer?
[02:47] <swami> hope most of u guys ahve seen several videos of beryl-ubuntu in youtube :)
[02:47] <mat1980>  frojnd: install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[02:47] <swami> in that they show that mac effect..
[02:47] <GeekMaster1> OOOOOK. I guess noone knows if there is a command for me to check my refresh rate.
[02:47] <emilio> hi, any1 using HP w22 monitor ?
[02:47] <swami> i mean when the mouse reaches the taskbar like bar at the bottom..
[02:47] <swami> icons popping out
[02:48] <swami> how to enable that?
[02:48] <liviu> anybody from romania?
[02:48] <bartzitz> hello, having trouble netboot'ing Feisty. it mounts squashfs file and seems to continue, then errors like this show: Cannot create directory /dev/shm/var.lock: No such file or directory. after this it fails. what could be the problem?
[02:48] <Martinp23> SeveredCross: No - ntfsresize and gparted are still complaining that I need to boot into windows twice :(
[02:48] <RAOF> GeekMaster1: Yes, yo ucan check it with nvidia-settings.
[02:49] <enviouz> GeekMaster1:  most lcd screns have an auto button as well as a selection in the menu that shows current refresh rate and resolution
[02:49] <mat1980> !ro | liviu
[02:49] <ubotu> liviu: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[02:50] <GeekMaster1> OK thanks guys. On to fonts...... When I type "xdpyinfo | grep resolution" I get "resolution:    85x87 dots per inch". Can anyone help me find out why it's not 96dpi?
[02:50] <bartzitz> netboot experts, anyone?
[02:50] <sipior> GeekMaster1: cause that's how your monitor's made
[02:50] <daquino> you guys think you load enough modules ? i have never seen this long of an output from lsmod in my life...
[02:51] <Martinp23> SeveredCross: It looks like ntfscheck is trying to fix only some errors, and then demanding a full check on restart (which looks like the only way I'll be able to get around this error :\).  Thanks anyway
[02:51] <Polis_ttt> anyone that got any experience of ups with ubuntu 6.10, which mark that supports that and how it works?
[02:51] <GeekMaster1> My monitor is MADE not to show 96dpi for my fonts? Why is it I can use 96DPI on my mac installation partition and my Windows instillation partition?
[02:51] <dawn`chorus> daquino, well, that's part of what makes Ubuntu Ubuntu.  :)
[02:52] <gordonjcp> GeekMaster1: xorg.conf defines DPI in terms of screen size
[02:52] <daquino> dawn`chorus: do you realize what you just said ?
[02:52] <GeekMaster1> sipior: My monitor is MADE not to show 96dpi for my fonts? Why is it I can use 96DPI on my mac installation partition and my Windows instillation partition?
[02:52] <dawn`chorus> daquino, what?  the bloat?  sure.
[02:52] <sipior> GeekMaster1: it's not really 96dpi. bit of a fantasy really.
[02:52] <bartzitz> could anyone help me with feisty netboot problem?
[02:52] <GeekMaster1> gordonjcp: I have no idea what you mean. So you're saying I can edit my Xorg to show 96DPI for my fonts? If so, how do I do that?
[02:53] <dawn`chorus> who freaking cares?  kids run around with 4 gig of ram and 3 GHz dual core processors.  sure, don't run Ubuntu on granny's PII.  who cares?
[02:53] <gordonjcp> GeekMaster1: is it actually important?
[02:53] <gordonjcp> GeekMaster1: I suspect it will give you more problems that you had to start with
[02:53] <daquino> dawn`chorus:  bloat ? this is rediculous.... this isn't bloat this is bad detection... and then in reality when i plug in my mouse it doesn't even detect it
[02:53] <frojnd> install sun-java6-jre
[02:53] <RAOF> GeekMaster1: The DPI of your screen is the resolution divided by the size.  It's a property of the size of your pixels, and is a physical property of the screen.
[02:53] <GeekMaster1> godonjcp: I'm a webdesigner. I do it for a living. it is VERY important. Every minuscule detail.
[02:54] <frojnd> mat1980: no good, even with this java won't work :s
[02:54] <sipior> GeekMaster1: i think not.
[02:54] <frojnd> and that all the sudden
[02:54] <dawn`chorus> daquino, try getting it to work in Windows.
[02:55] <daquino> dawn`chorus:  did you just speak english ?
[02:55] <GeekMaster1> gordonjcp: You suspect IT will give me more problems than I started with? "IT" being what?
[02:55] <dawn`chorus> daquino, are you in my gene pool?
[02:55] <RAOF> GeekMaster1: You can set what DPI fonts should be drawn for in System->Preferences->Fonts.  However, since your screen is not 96DPI, it'll just make them bigger.
[02:56] <sipior> GeekMaster1: if you're planning on being obnoxious in this channel, "GeekMaster" is not a great nom de plume
[02:56] <daquino> dawn`chorus: your responses are fluff
[02:56] <GeekMaster1> RAOF: So what should I set my fonts DPI to in  "System->Preferences->Fonts" to make them show the correct size?
[02:56] <dawn`chorus> daquino, and?  you come into Ubuntu *support* to just moane and groan like some little kid?  if you have a question, ask the room.  otherwise #ubuntu-offtopic.
[02:57] <GeekMaster1> sipior: I'm really NOT a prick. I never meant to be obnoxious. If ANYTHING I said sort of came off that way I am VERY sorry
[02:57] <RAOF> GeekMaster1: The DPI reported.  That is: 86DPI
[02:57] <sipior> GeekMaster1: no worries, all forgotten :)
[02:57] <neopsyche> greetings.. quesitons about other linux distro.... is xandros really 'open source' ??? I see that they are ... giving away a 'free distribution' version that is for 'non-commercial use' but isnt all GNU software open to use for commercial use??? xandros is confusing.
[02:58] <knoxvillano> help
[02:58] <GeekMaster1> RAOF: So set it to 86 DPI in "System->Preferences->Fonts"?
[02:58] <neopsyche> Cant i simply re-sell / distribute any linux distro???
[02:58] <bartzitz> netbooting feisty, anyone? or is it a wrong place to ask this?
[02:58] <neopsyche> for example.. SUSE linux is distributed free online
[02:58] <RAOF> GeekMaster1: Yup.
[02:58] <GeekMaster1> Thank you ALL for your help.
[02:58] <GeekMaster1> Ubuntu IRC RULES
[02:58] <mok_> bartzitz, what about netbooting?
[02:59] <bartzitz> mok_: i've setup all the needed stuff to install it over the network. it fails after mounting squashfs
[02:59] <neopsyche> yeah ubuntu IRC rules... XANDROS SUCKS@!!!! because theres only 2 people in there
[02:59] <mok_> bartzitz,  I've only done it from the live CD
[03:00] <mok_> bartzitz, that works without problems
[03:00] <tobi-wan> sorry to repost: are there any udev-wizards here? obviously, re-reading the rules using udevcontrol does not apply them and /etc/init.d/udev restart messes up my system :-/
[03:01] <enviouz> can i just install kde without breaking anything? i currently use ubuntu studio
[03:01] <RAOF> enviouz: Yes.  Just install the "kubuntu-desktop" package.
[03:01] <enviouz> ok ty
[03:02] <enviouz> where to get desktop themes?
[03:02] <Frogzoo> !themes
[03:02] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:02] <dawn`chorus> enviouz, art.gnome.org
[03:03] <enviouz> ty Frogzoo and dawn`chorus
[03:03] <dawn`chorus> your welcome, enviouz
[03:03] <zulfikar> hallo jio
[03:03] <zulfikar> JIO!!!
[03:04] <bartzitz_>  has anyone here installed feisty over a LAN?
[03:05] <benmayim> I've installed Ubuntu 7.04 with LAMP, and I want to install Joomla on it. How do I do it?
[03:05] <zulfikar> JIO!!!
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[03:06] <hylje> !ops
[03:06] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[03:06] <zulfikar> JIO!!!
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[03:07] <Gerrit> Wat program is responsible for the intelligent tab completion that makes that if I type 'latex <tab>' it shows *.tex? Where is this configured?
[03:07] <benmayim> I've installed Ubuntu 7.04 with LAMP. How do Iget Lamp to run .php files in the web browser?
[03:08] <vanhoo> knock....knock!
[03:09] <CyberMad> benmayim apt-get install apache2 php4 libapache2-mod-php4
[03:09] <CyberMad> apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5
[03:09] <chadeldridge> Has anyone sucessfully gotten a Treo 700wx to sync with synce ?
[03:09] <z3r0ph3wl> i know that its not right chanel to ask about beryl but in beryl channel nobody answer. hej i have problem with beryl then i choose beryl window manager in try icon of beryl nothing happening. why?
[03:09] <vanhoo> hi..
[03:10] <benmayim> cybermad, I need all those in addition to the LAMP that installed with Ubuntu?
[03:10] <Vorian> z3r0ph3wl, join #ubuntu-effects
[03:12] <CyberMad> benmayim sorry i can't help you, but i usually use that if i want to install apache + mysql + php4/5 and it's works
[03:12] <richee> There was some other software like easy ubuntu..can someone help me recollect it name?
[03:12] <enviouz> benmayim:  i use a prog called xammp
[03:12] <domas> ergh, apparently 7.04 desktop cd doesn't boot properly in parallels either
[03:12] <domas> why is Ubuntu the only linux that fails to run in parallels in every release :)
[03:12] <richee> ??
[03:12] <benmayim> I know about xamp, but I thought if you installed Ubuntu with the LAMP server, you would be able to use that.
[03:12] <sipior> richee: you probably are looking for automatix, but it's not supported or particularly recommended.
[03:13] <richee> sipior: yes
[03:13] <richee> sipior: thanks been long since I used ubuntu just installed fiesty
[03:13] <enviouz> not sure. i just use xamp because it was part of a tutorial on installing torrentflux
[03:13] <ZeroA4> domas, must be something between parallels and ubuntu... it runs ok in vmware
[03:14] <domas> for LTS one I had to use alternate install CD
[03:14] <domas> for 7.04, server cd doesn't like the way parallels emulates CD-ROM
[03:14] <domas> and desktop CD shows black blank screen
[03:14] <Assassyn2> ubuntu 6.10 is last edition?
[03:14] <xq> Are there any good mirrors for Gutsy? The main mirror is slow. ;0
[03:14] <domas> 7.04
[03:15] <ZeroA4> Assassyn2, no... it is 7.04
[03:15] <Assassyn2> domas
[03:15] <Assassyn2> where can i get it pls
[03:15] <domas> Assassyn2: from any ubuntu download site?
[03:15] <xq> http://www.ubuntu.com/
[03:15] <domas> Assassyn2: do note that 6.10 has long-term-support
[03:15] <ZeroA4> domas, cant you try VMware or Virtualbox ? they have free versions
[03:15] <xq> And there is a huge list of mirrors. hehe
[03:15] <enviouz> i recommend the torrents though
[03:15] <dyrne> Assassyn2: so wait, youre downloading ubuntu and fedora? :)
[03:15] <Frogzoo> Assassyn2:get the torrent etc. @ http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/feisty/release/ubuntu-7.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[03:15] <domas> ZeroA4: mmm, I'm on macosx
[03:15] <ZeroA4> domas, no! LTS is 6.06
[03:15] <domas> ah, confusing
[03:15] <imbrandon> domas, vmware has osx version
[03:15] <domas> I do find ubuntu versions confusing :)
[03:16] <imbrandon> why confusing ? Y.MM
[03:16] <imbrandon> not too hard :)
[03:16] <Assassyn2> what version
[03:16] <ZeroA4> domas, it's easy... year.month
[03:16] <Assassyn2> i don`t know or fedora or ubuntu
[03:16] <ZeroA4> 2007.04
[03:16] <enviouz> speaking of lts when is the next release?
[03:16] <ZeroA4> 2006.06
[03:16] <ZeroA4> 2007.10
[03:17] <defrysk> 2008.06
[03:17] <ZeroA4> Ubuntu 7.10 will be released in october
[03:17] <defrysk> 2008.10
[03:17] <imbrandon> enviouz, 8.04 possibly, hasent been announced yet
[03:17] <defrysk> etc etc
[03:17] <xq> VirtualBox supports MacOS as does VMWare, I believe.
[03:17] <enviouz> ahh ok ty. wasnt sure if it would be gutsy or the next one
[03:18] <domas> ZeroA4: year/month means nothing
[03:18] <ZeroA4> humm
[03:18] <domas> ZeroA4: for me the much more important is libc version, for example :)
[03:18] <ZeroA4> i not sure if 7.10 will be LTS
[03:18] <defrysk> 2008.06 should be 2008.04
[03:18] <ZeroA4> domas, distrowatch tells it
[03:19] <xq> Are there any mirrors for Gutsy alpha that anyone know of?
[03:19] <domas> so when there's more differences between say 6.4 and 6.10 rather than between 6.10 and 7.4.. :)
[03:19] <Assassyn2> what is LTS?
[03:19] <domas> the numbers then look confusing
[03:20] <domas> but I guess you've heard that over and over :))
[03:20] <enviouz> long term support
[03:20] <drowner> Assassyn2: Long Term Support
[03:20] <defrysk> long term support or something
[03:20] <neol> how do i kill a single firefox windows.. .... ??? one firefox window has got hang here
[03:20] <ZeroA4> Assassyn2, Long Term Suport
[03:20] <Assassyn2> thanks
[03:20] <enviouz> 5 years aint it? or is it 3?
[03:20] <Assassyn2> ubuntu 7.04 last stable version?
[03:20] <enviouz> yea Assassyn2
[03:20] <defrysk> yes
[03:20] <ZeroA4> Assassyn2, yes
[03:20] <xq> neol: click the "x" or use the menu bar and right click and go to close
[03:20] <Niroog> hi ppl
[03:21] <Assassyn2> phiu thanks god
[03:21] <Assassyn2> i don`t like beta vers
[03:21] <Niroog> what do i have to do to remove completely mysql and php ?
[03:21] <neol> sorry i got disconnected can someone give that reply back please
[03:22] <xq> neol: click the "x" or use the menu bar and right click and go to
[03:22] <xq>             close
[03:22] <enviouz> Assassyn2:  you can prob get the cd instead of the dvd. i havent noticed much difference in them
[03:22] <neol> xq: but its not closing dude
[03:22] <enviouz> aside from needing more updates when using the dvd
[03:22] <Assassyn2> hmm
[03:22] <ZeroA4> Niroog, the complete removal option in synaptic does not help ?
[03:23] <Niroog> trying now
[03:23] <enviouz> dvd has more apps but they have most been updated
[03:23] <neol> does someone know how to kill a single firefox windows ??? :)
[03:23] <Ireal> neol: they is related all !!!
[03:23] <Assassyn2> i`ll get this time the dvd and burn it
[03:24] <Frogzoo> neol: alt f4
[03:24] <Assassyn2> is it worth to doanload 64bit?
[03:24] <neol> Frogzoo: that is not working the windows has got hang dude
[03:24] <enviouz> Assassyn2:  idk ive never used 64
[03:25] <Frogzoo> neol: xkill
[03:25] <ZeroA4> Assassyn2, 64 got problems with flash and java
[03:25] <defrysk> neol, looks like a ff crash , you'll have to close them all
[03:25] <neol> Frogzoo: thanks
[03:26] <defrysk> hmm obviously not :S
[03:26] <Adross> hey, i'm looking to set up a mailing list prog, similiar to yahoo groups. I tried phplist, but then I realised that it only sends out singular announcements, it doesn't send out discussions to all recipients. So, can anyone recommend me a good mailing list program?
[03:26] <mwe> I'm looking at a shell script. it says 'killall -KILL nas >&-' what does >&- mean?
[03:26] <enviouz> neol:  you should be able to restore your ff session though
[03:26] <neol> defrysk: whats an ff crash ??
[03:26] <defrysk> neol, never mind
[03:26] <dyrne> Assassyn2: unless you just want to fool around with it or need your apps to have access to > 4 gig ram.. not atm
[03:26] <Quicktabb> hi i need help. i can't install gap plug-in for gimp. how can i install it?
[03:26] <Ireal> feryfersistant crash :)
[03:26] <neol> enviouz: how do i do that ??
[03:27] <defrysk> lol Ireal
[03:27] <defrysk> ff is short for firefox afaIk
[03:27] <Assassyn2> ok than 32bit perfect for me for now
[03:27] <enviouz> well if you kill the process when you open ff again it should ask you if you want to restore session or start new
[03:27] <assasukasse> hi everyone, is there someone using an usb irda adaptor with ubuntu? does it work?
[03:27] <neol> enviouz: that happens only in windows and not in linux... hehe
[03:28] <enviouz> no in linux too
[03:28] <neol> enviouz: but here its not working ;)
[03:28] <ZeroA4> neol, my fx does restores session in ubuntu
[03:28] <enviouz> strange. does it to me every time
[03:28] <defrysk> neol, you are not using feisty then
[03:28] <neol> defrysk: yes i'm
[03:29] <neol> sorry i'm using feisty
[03:29] <defrysk> neol, then it should restore
[03:29] <Frogzoo> !hardware | assasukasse
[03:29] <ubotu> assasukasse: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:29] <enviouz> did you close it or kill it from the system monitor?
[03:29] <Quicktabb> hi i need help. i can't install any plug-in for gimp. can anyone help me plz! thnks
[03:29] <chadeldridge> Anyone a guru at synce ?
[03:29] <neol> i used xkill
[03:30] <enviouz> idk then but it should ask you to rstore
[03:30] <greedo> can you recommend a gui tool to view sqlite or mysql databases and run queries ?
[03:30] <neol> it didnt
[03:30] <enviouz> its weird that it didnt for you
[03:30] <Adross> greedo: phpmyadmin
[03:31] <Adross> greedo: web interface
[03:31] <assasukasse> Frogzoo: is not much use..no irda usb listed there
[03:31] <greedo> yeah taht's what i'm using
[03:31] <Ireal> it's too bad they discontinued mysqlcc, it was such a nice program
[03:31] <Adross> why do you want to change?
[03:31] <greedo> but i find it kinda slow
[03:31] <guardian> hi ireal, you there :)
[03:31] <Ireal> greedo: it is probably the worst thing evar, but it does the job best :)
[03:31] <murrayc> greedo: mergeant, if you can get it to work.
[03:31] <greedo> ok gonna look for mergeant
[03:31] <Ireal> guardian: yikes, the french are coming~, elderberries anyone ;)
[03:34] <Shock> does ubuntu have accelerated support for intel g965/x3000 video card series?
[03:34] <ZeroA4> Ireal, MySQL Query Browser is in the repos
[03:34] <Shock> !g065
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about g065 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <Ireal> ZeroA4: is that the gtk app ?
[03:34] <kafran> which program can I use to make a move from photos (like an slide) with a music on background??
[03:34] <ZeroA4> Ireal, dont know if its GTK...
[03:35] <Ireal> cause there was this "official" mysql admin app, i didn't like it one bit
[03:35] <ZeroA4> Shock, it has for some intel cards... 900 series
[03:35] <eyemean> dawn chrous, thanx for clamav, but it says i have to be in root to update signatures
[03:35] <chadeldridge> kafran:  Picasa2 can do something like that
[03:36] <ZeroA4> Ireal, MySQL Query Browser is from MySQL but is other program
[03:36] <xdr__> hey
[03:36] <enviouz> eyeman try sudo clamav or what ever the launch command is
[03:36] <Ireal> ZeroA4: i'll try it sometime then ^_^
[03:36] <kafran> chadeldridge: have picasa for linux?
[03:37] <ZeroA4> Ireal, :)
[03:37] <chadeldridge> yes ... its on the google site
[03:37] <chadeldridge> identical to the m$ version
[03:37] <xdr__> does anyone know any good vga drivers for links2??
[03:37] <eyemean> thanx enviouz, but didnt work
[03:37] <eyemean> im new to linux
[03:37] <CharminTheMoose> xdr__ vga drivers for links2? why would ya need them?
[03:38] <enviouz> not sure then. what did it say? command not found?
[03:38] <eyemean> yeah
[03:38] <enviouz> ok maybe somebody else knows the command to start it then
[03:38] <ZeroA4> xdr__, i think you need fbdev or vesa... like at the boot
[03:38] <eyemean> k thanx for trying though, much appreciated
[03:38] <xdr__> nm
[03:38] <xdr__> i got mixed up soz
[03:39] <eyemean> is there a way i can find the command for it?
[03:39] <Frogzoo> !docs | eyemean
[03:39] <ubotu> eyemean: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[03:40] <hoagie> yahoooooo
[03:40] <greedo> ZeroA4: what's the package name please ?
[03:40] <enviouz> try sudo freshclam -d
[03:40] <eyemean> cheers ubotu and frogzoo
[03:40] <ZeroA4> greedo, for?
[03:40] <greedo> ZeroA4: mysql browser
[03:40] <Gasten> I'm looking for a program which I can use to find rgb and hexrgb values, instead of firing up Gimp. Ie, it's a stand alone color pallete. Does that exist?
[03:40] <VSpike> does anyone know where I can find a list of kernel options that can be passed from grub/lilo?
[03:41] <eyemean> bash: try: command not found
[03:41] <ZeroA4> greedo, mysql-query-browser
[03:41] <AzMoo> Hey, is there any way I can restrict logins to a particular group?
[03:41] <kafran> chadeldridge: cant find linux version, on linux site only the win version ;/
[03:41] <enviouz> sudo freshclam -d
[03:41] <greedo> duh was dread simple :D thx
[03:41] <kafran> chadeldridge: on google site
[03:41] <enviouz> sorry i didnt mean to add try as part of the command
[03:42] <Raimis>  i've problem with my network card.it detects 8139too driver..but network device not working.
[03:42] <kafran> chadeldridge: found it ;) thx
[03:42] <Quicktabb> hi i can't install any plug-in in gimp. help me plz. thx
[03:42] <eyemean> lol, soz enviouz, i guess that did comething cause it then just went to next command line
[03:43] <enviouz> eyemean:  found this http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/10/clamav-free-anti-virus-solution-for.html
[03:43] <neol> how do i uninstall xmms along with the packages which are download in /var/cache/apt ???? respective packages should also be deleted, bcoz i have some problem with my xmms here,,, so i'm downloading the packages again and installing xmms :)
[03:44] <yong> hi
[03:44] <enviouz> idk neol maybe try complete remove in the package manager
[03:44] <Assassyn> ubuntu server is ok?
[03:45] <MisterX> hi there
[03:45] <Ireal> neol: wow, that sounded vague :)
[03:45] <enviouz> not unless you running a server
[03:45] <MisterX> i have a problem with my via graphic chip (onboard)
[03:45] <Assassyn> i mean is it stable?
[03:45] <Assassyn> any1 tried it?
[03:45] <orangey> hey all!
[03:45] <tcleval> how can i install a deb source file? i need kqemu and i only see a source package on the repositories
[03:45] <orangey> I'm having an interesting problem.. In my logs, I get a "302", but users are reporting blank pages about half the time.
[03:45] <enviouz> i think its command line only
[03:46] <MisterX> tcleval: dpkg -i package
[03:46] <orangey> reloading the page gives the "right" page, though.
[03:46] <neol> Ireal: i know what problem i am facing here so i am doing that dude
[03:46] <eyemean> envious - thank you very much. ur a star
[03:46] <tcleval> MisterX, and it get compiled?
[03:46] <neol> enviouz: how do i do that ??
[03:46] <enviouz> np
[03:46] <orangey> doh!
[03:46] <MisterX> tcleval: if it's a .deb package? yepp.
[03:46] <orangey> I meant to do that in #apache
[03:46] <Stallman> DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org -
[03:46] <Stallman> DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org -
[03:46] <Stallman> DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org -
[03:46] <Stallman> DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.org - DrLight.o
[03:46] <Assassyn> watta
[03:47] <Ireal> i never liked RMS!
[03:47] <enviouz> open synaptic (ystem admins synaptic) find the package the right click and choose mark for complete removal. then click apply
[03:47] <Ireal> hyhy
[03:47] <Assassyn> these days noobs like this one still exists?
[03:47] <neol> what the hell is going on
[03:47] <neol> stop u moron
[03:47] <enviouz> wtf
[03:47] <MisterX> ^^ can someone help me with my via graphics chip?
[03:48] <neol> enviouz: that wasnt for u it was for stallman
[03:48] <enviouz> naw i meant wtf was his prob
[03:48] <MisterX> P4M800PRO-M2 Mainboard with integrated S3 Unichrome Pro 2d/3d Graphics
[03:48] <MisterX> i tried to install several drivers from the official ubuntu repositories
[03:48] <eyemean> goes to show why people like that have no lives
[03:49] <MisterX> but nothing worked... i hang around here with a vesa driver :(
[03:49] <gordonjcp> Assassyn: seems so
[03:49] <enviouz> idk if the complete removal will remove all dependancies too but i do know it removes the package as well as any config files ect
[03:49] <eyemean> thanx again enviouz, much appreciated
[03:49] <enviouz> np
[03:50] <neol> enviouz: give me a command for console.... to do the same for completely removing xmms
[03:50] <MisterX> neol: apt-get remove xmms
[03:50] <enviouz> oh idk how to do it from a terminal i always have to do it from the package manager
[03:51] <sohoam> what's the command to open a terminal and display top?
[03:51] <variant> sohoam: gnome-terminal -e top
[03:51] <neol> MisterX: will that remove xmms packages from /var/cache/apt also ??
[03:51] <ZeroA4> top
[03:51] <sohoam> variant: great...thx
[03:51] <variant> sohoam: you would be better with htop though (apt-get it)
[03:51] <MisterX> neol: don't know, but i think so. just try it
[03:51] <sohoam> variant: ok
[03:51] <neol> MisterX: yes sir
[03:52] <enviouz> if you use the command Misterx gave if the dependancies were only needed for xmms it will afterwards tell you packages were installed taht were no longer needed and to use autoremove command
[03:52] <MisterX> correct
[03:52] <MisterX> ^^ can someone help me with my via graphics-chip?
[03:52] <variant> why does boot up manager allow editing of hte startup and shutdown scripts? says it requires deep knowledge of the system.. well I happen to know that I dont need a braile display thanks...
[03:53] <enviouz> idk if it removes config files and stuff though
[03:53] <MisterX> going mad here...
[03:53] <variant> not allow*
[03:53] <variant> MisterX: whats the problem?
[03:53] <enviouz> idk about that misterx ive only used ati
[03:53] <neol> enviouz: so i should use autoremove... then ??
[03:53] <enviouz> do sudo apt-get remove xmms
[03:53] <menisk> Hi, I recently tried to upgrade to the fglrx 8.37.6 driver. The driver didn't work under XGL for me, so I purged it and reverted to the 'ati' driver. Now when I go to the restricted driver manager it says my hardware doesn't require any restricted drivers? Any ideas?
[03:53] <MisterX> variant: well, i can't install any other driver than vesa
[03:53] <neol> okay
[03:53] <enviouz> then sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:53] <MisterX> ^^ i want to enable 3d acceleration
[03:54] <MisterX> mainboard: P4M800PRO-M2
[03:54] <MisterX> Integrated S3 UniChrome Pro 2D/3D Graphics
[03:54] <neol> MisterX: dont u have ur motherbroad cd, that might include drivers for linux
[03:54] <_Andrew> Hi all, I have a problem. My laptop hard drive seems like its about to break but I don't want to lose all my data. I have Ubuntu install on my desktop and I want to copy my user directory over to my desktop. I'm connected to the internet via wifi but my desktop has a crossover cable to my laptop. I can't figure out how to get file sharing to work between the ubuntu computers.
[03:54] <enviouz> menisk where did you get the driver from?
[03:54] <MisterX> ^^ that's the graphics chip
[03:54] <icecruncher> !adeptfix
[03:54] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:54] <MisterX> neol: well, the manual didn't tell me of any linux drivers...
[03:55] <MisterX> but that's indeed an idea...
[03:55] <variant> _Andrew: use scp.. or enable shared folders in nautilus
[03:55] <menisk> enviouz: I had the 8.34.8 driver from the repo working perfectly, then when I updated with the one from the ATI site by making .deb packages it all went to hell.
[03:55] <MisterX> ^^ anyway, i tried some drivers but neither one of them did work
[03:55] <neol> MisterX: check the cd which has come along with ur mobo
[03:55] <ZeroA4> _Andrew, install openssh-server in both... open ssh://ip in nautilus where ip is the onther pc ip
[03:55] <yong> samba
[03:55] <MisterX> ^^ on my way...
[03:55] <enviouz> yea i never got them to compile right either. hang on a min i have a link to the updated debs
[03:56] <variant> _Andrew: "scp -r /home/_andrew/ user@host-ipaddress:/home/username:"
[03:56] <menisk> enviouz: So I can still have 8.37.6?
[03:56] <IdleOne> !samba | _Andrew
[03:56] <ubotu> _Andrew: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:56] <enviouz> http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Testing/fglrx-8.37.6-Feisty/
[03:56] <enviouz> they will always be at that site (will never make it to the repos)
[03:56] <_Andrew> IdleOne: They're both ubuntu computers not windows
[03:57] <variant> _Andrew: do what I did then. you can still use samba ubuntu to ubutnu though (it's a very nice system)
[03:57] <ZeroA4> _Andrew, install openssh-server in both... open ssh://ip in nautilus where ip is the onther pc ip
[03:57] <_Andrew> ZeroA4: Will do
[03:57] <variant> ZeroA4: you only need the server in one..
[03:57] <menisk> enviouz: Can you help me install them, as every other time the have failed.
[03:58] <Quicktabb> hi need help, i can't install gap plugin for gimp. how can i install it?
[03:58] <enviouz> yea. first open the synaptic package manager
[03:58] <MisterX> hm.
[03:58] <MisterX> can't find the cd...
[03:58] <rockphoto> just wan to tell that i am online with gutsy alpha1 topcom skyracer 3011 wlan pccard on my acer travelmate 240 laptop
[03:59] <ZeroA4> variant, yeah...
[03:59] <menisk> enviouz: Do I just install xorg-driver-fglrx and fglrx kernel source?
[03:59] <enviouz> menisk first do a search for fglrx
[03:59] <MisterX> variant: no cd available
[04:00] <enviouz> well you need the updated fglrx driver control module restricted modules and common modules
[04:00] <MisterX> hm.
[04:00] <MisterX> wait
[04:00] <MisterX> silly me...
[04:00] <variant> MisterX: comment out the cd line in sources.list
[04:01] <menisk> enviouz: I am happy to use 8.34.8 as they have worked for me.
[04:01] <MisterX> why?
[04:01] <MisterX> i mean... i have the ubuntu install disc here
[04:01] <enviouz> i use the updated ones because the fix probs with x crashing during switch users suspen and hibrinate
[04:01] <_Andrew> I have another problem before we get to my file sharing problem. I plugged in the Desktop to my laptop but how do I share my Internet connection via my laptop?
[04:02] <menisk> OKay.
[04:02] <cycom> I'm having an issue with my bluetooth mighty mouse.  It connects just fine, but the side buttons respond as left click, and the scrollball only does vertical scrolling.  I've added a section for mightymouse to my Xorg.conf (per the instructions in the forums, etc.) but haven't been able to get the buttons to respond, and horizontal scrolling doesn't show an event in Xev
[04:02] <foso> hey, my computer is getting slow and sometimes stops for like 10 seconds, i can hear the hd going, whats up?
[04:02] <menisk> enviouz: How do I get the updated ones? Sorry for my noobyness.
[04:02] <enviouz> still have the link i gave you?
[04:03] <menisk> enviouz: yes
[04:03] <enviouz> ok go there and d/l the following files
[04:03] <shadeofgrey> okay folks'
[04:03] <IdleOne> !repos | MisterX
[04:03] <ubotu> MisterX: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[04:03] <enviouz> fglrx-control_8.37.6+2.6.20.5.1-16.1_i386.deb  fglrx-kernel-source_8.37.6+2.6.20.5.1-16.1_i386.deb
[04:03] <shadeofgrey> i need to talk to someone about installing ubuntu feisty on a coreduo macbookpro
[04:04] <MisterX> idaho45: do you have a certain reason to tell me that?
[04:04] <MisterX> damn.
[04:04] <IdleOne> shadeofgrey, ask away and someone will try to help if they can
[04:04] <MisterX> IdleOne: ^^ do you have a certain reason... ?
[04:04] <shadeofgrey> specifically what actions i have to take to enable ATI video support in the liveCD and then do the actualinstall withthe same settiungs
[04:04] <foso> i have a 2.8 ghz processor and 20+gigs free, but its slow, i thought that only happened in wondows
[04:04] <jsoohs> i want to run a script in a terminal 'sh script.sh' and have to results displayed as if i were entering the commands one by one, instead of looking at a blinking cursor and assuming it's being done in the background...how do i do that?
[04:04] <enviouz> menisk:  you dont use the 64bit version do you?
[04:05] <menisk> enviouz: Used to, too many issues :P
[04:05] <shadeofgrey> foso, how manyt megs of ram do you have and what kiknd of video card?
[04:05] <enviouz> ok good because these are 386 debs
[04:05] <IdleOne> MisterX, all the packages you need can be downloaded from the repositories online making the need for the cd not necessary
[04:05] <MisterX> variant: i just found the cd that came with my motherboard
[04:05] <menisk> enviouz: I know, goody.
[04:05] <enviouz> do you know what kernel you use?
[04:05] <wols> MisterX: that helps you in ubuntu how?
[04:05] <menisk> enviouz: 2.6.20 -16
[04:05] <foso> shadeofgrey, i have 512 mem, and an ati card, it was working, this garbage is fairly recent
[04:06] <MisterX> IdleOne: i know that. but i don't see any connection to the problem concerning my graphics driver
[04:06] <alexseif> Hi, I'm having touble with amarok it doesn't play the tracks!
[04:06] <enviouz> generic, 386 or lowlatency?
[04:06] <MisterX> wols: hum. nothing. cause it seems to be just for windows users
[04:06] <neol> enviouz: i did < apt-get remove xmms > and then < apt-get autoremove xmms > but still the xmms packages are not deleted from /var/cache/apt ??? :(
[04:06] <menisk> enviouz: I think lowlatency, how do I check?
[04:06] <enviouz> uname -r
[04:06] <MisterX> ^^ it's just im trying to setup a 3d driver for my VIA Graphics Chipset for nearly 5 hours...
[04:06] <variant> neol: rm /var/cache/apt/xmms*
[04:07] <dyrne> jsoohs: you can paste your script if you like but id /join #bash and ask there
[04:07] <IdleOne> MisterX, the drivers that came with the cd are for windows you need to install Linux drivers for yor graphics card so the cd you have is useless unless the manufacturer provides linux drivers
[04:07] <MisterX> and ive no idea what to do now....
[04:07] <MisterX> ^^ yes.
[04:07] <menisk> enviouz: Ah, generic, it was my old kernel that was lowlatency.
[04:07] <ZeroA4> MisterX, VIA has drivers for linux
[04:07] <MisterX> i recognized it a minute ago
[04:07] <dyrne> jsuther: pastebin i mean :)
[04:07] <MisterX> tell me news, folk
[04:07] <MisterX> they
[04:07] <MisterX> dont
[04:07] <neol> variant: that will only remove packages starting with xmms** name... i want everything related to xmms to b removed
[04:07] <MisterX> work
[04:07] <enviouz> ok. have you got the first 2 files yet?
[04:07] <IdleOne> !enter | MisterX
[04:07] <ubotu> MisterX: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:08] <variant> neol: just rm everything.. its just the installation packages
[04:08] <alexseif> Hi, I'm having touble with amarok it doesn't play the tracks!
[04:08] <yangyiyun> is this taking in chinese ?
[04:08] <menisk> enviouz: Yes, they're on my desktop.
[04:08] <ZeroA4> MisterX, did you get the drivers from Viaarena?
[04:08] <neol> variant: but i have lot other packages in that folder dude... i cant do that
[04:08] <MisterX> there were some official driver at the official site
[04:09] <neol> MisterX: then u should try those first
[04:09] <enviouz> ok now get linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic_2.6.20.5.1-16.1_i386.deb  linux-restricted-modules-common_2.6.20.5.1-16.1_all.deb
[04:09] <ZeroA4> MisterX, they dont work ?
[04:09] <MisterX> either it doesnt work on my machine or i was too stupid to install em
[04:09] <wols> MisterX: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-closed@lists.debian.org/msg129284.html
[04:09] <enviouz> let me know when thema re done
[04:09] <MisterX> ^^ my english is not the best...
[04:09] <ZeroA4> MisterX, a never used them
[04:10] <MisterX> damn.
[04:10] <ZeroA4> but they have a page for ubuntu
[04:10] <MisterX> yes.
[04:10] <MisterX> maybe i misunderstood some advices
[04:10] <neol> wols: do u know how to remove the an application along with the respective packages in /var/cache/apt... ??? what the command for it ??
[04:10] <MisterX> im kind of new to linux...
[04:10] <MisterX> and, as i said... im not that good at english...
[04:10] <wols> !apt | neol
[04:10] <ubotu> neol: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:11] <alexseif> Hi, I'm having touble with amarok it doesn't play the tracks!
[04:11] <wols> you can't do both things together
[04:11] <MisterX> wols: the link is about K8xxx - i need M800Pro
[04:11] <ZeroA4> MisterX, where are you from?
[04:11] <neol> wols: ok tell me the command then  ?
[04:11] <MisterX> germany
[04:11] <wols> neol: the packages in /var/cache are unecessary. you can always delete them via apt
[04:11] <wols> MisterX: what is your exact problem? ubuntu ships with unichrome drivers afaik
[04:11] <gerhard> hi i need to install audacious, now i have the following error when ./configure-ing: checking for glib-2.0 >= 2.6.0 gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6.0 gthread-2.0 pango... no       configure: error: Cannot find glib2/gtk2/pango
[04:12] <MisterX> wols: correct. i installed the unichrome drivers
[04:12] <gerhard> which package needs to be installed?
[04:12] <mezziah> gerhard: libpongo, development package
[04:12] <MisterX> then i changed the xorg.conf (replaced "vesa" with "via")
[04:12] <menisk> enviouz: Done
[04:12] <wols> !apt | gerhard
[04:12] <mezziah> pango*
[04:12] <ubotu> gerhard: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:12] <_Andrew> ZeroA4: Thanks I got the file sharing working now
[04:12] <gerhard> thanks
[04:12] <MisterX> restarting the x-server didnt work
[04:12] <ZeroA4> _Andrew, :)
[04:12] <wols> !doesn't work
[04:12] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[04:12] <MisterX> didn't found the driver
[04:13] <enviouz> ok now grab these last two files xorg-driver-fglrx-dev_7.1.0-8.37.6+2.6.20.5.1-16.1_i386.deb  xorg-driver-fglrx_7.1.0-8.37.6+2.6.20.5.1-16.1_i386.deb
[04:13] <wols> MisterX: xorg.log output please
[04:13] <MisterX> something like "looking for via driver - module doesn't exist" or something
[04:13] <MisterX> ^^ moment please
[04:13] <Ernz> Hello, this question may seem a little random, but I played a game on Ubuntu a while back. It was an FPS and all the world objects graphics were outset with thick black lines and vivid colours. Can anyone name that game?
[04:13] <MisterX> hum... where to find?
[04:14] <wols> MisterX: /var/log/
[04:14] <MisterX> thx
[04:14] <MisterX> ... need to fix locate later... *narf*
[04:14] <gordonjcp> Ernz: what kind of fps?
[04:15] <Ernz> gordonjcp, sorta ut2004 style thing
[04:15] <gerhard> mezziah: ich kann keine nachrichten verschicken, ich brauch die neuere version fr audacious-mac, das untersttzt nur audacious ber 1.3.0
[04:15] <ericrw> Ernz, PadMan ?
[04:15] <Picii> !de
[04:15] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:15] <menisk> enviouz: Got 'em.
[04:15] <ericrw> http://padworld.myexp.de/index.php?news
[04:15] <mezziah> gerhard: aren't you able to answer me in query?
[04:16] <gerhard> no
[04:16] <gordonjcp> Ernz: nexuiz?
[04:16] <LIJI> Hello
[04:16] <enviouz> ok now do one last thing in a terminal hit fglrxinfo. just tell me if it says mesa or ati
[04:16] <mezziah> oh that's bad. aren't there any binary packages?
[04:16] <LIJI> Does someone know a good OGG Video convertor?
[04:16] <Ernz> Gordonjcp: I was thinking Nexuiz.....
[04:16] <MisterX> (EE) No drivers available.
[04:16] <MisterX> Fatal server error:
[04:16] <MisterX> no screens found
[04:16] <gordonjcp> Ernz: doesn't have flat colours though
[04:16] <gordonjcp> enemylines7?
[04:17] <Ernz> Hmmm
[04:17] <ericrw> Ernz, quake3 ? :) http://offload1.ioquake3.org/images/cel-shading.jpg
[04:17] <mezziah> gerhard: i suggest you install a client that supports private messages so that we can talk in your native language
[04:17] <MisterX> wols: ^^
[04:17] <menisk> enviouz: I haven't got any fglrx stuff on, I purged it all. Running the open source driver.
[04:17] <Ernz> ericrw: Nope, sorry.
[04:17] <LIJI> Does someone know a good OGG Video convertor?
[04:17] <gordonjcp> ffmpeg2theora
[04:17] <gordonjcp> well, it's what I use anyway
[04:17] <ericrw> (Ernz - yeah, thats quake3 with cell shading!)
[04:17] <enviouz> ahh ok np we will start the install now
[04:17] <LIJI> Thanks, but I need to convert from OGG
[04:17] <|jason|> hi -- im trying to build pidgin on xubuntu feisty -- i seem to recall there was a package i had to install first but i cant remember what it was called - can anyone help?
[04:17] <menisk> enviouz: :)
[04:18] <PreZ> I hate it when someone mentioned my name while I was gone, and I can't find it in the scrollback
[04:18] <wols> PreZ: /lastlog
[04:18] <gordonjcp> PreZ: /lastlog ?
[04:18] <skreet> I've installed a few .pcf.gz files into /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi and run fc-cache but the fonts.dir file isnt' updated and the font isn't available, any advise?
[04:18] <enviouz> 2 things i should note though if you get a warning saying package is already installed or and older version is available in the channel just ignore it
[04:18] <gordonjcp> PreZ: or were you away for a long time?
[04:18] <gordonjcp> LIJI: mencoder?
[04:18] <menisk> enviouz:
[04:18] <menisk> enviouz: Ok.
[04:18] <enviouz> right click the common module and install that with the package manager first
[04:18] <PreZ> gordonjcp, a long time.  And I didn
[04:18] <LIJI> thanks, I'll try it
[04:19] <PreZ> I didn't know lastlog worked in xchat, well I'll be
[04:19] <gordonjcp> *think* it works in xchat
[04:19] <cycom> Anyone else using a mighty mouse?  Preferably bluetooth?  I'm having a heck of a time.
[04:19] <LungaN> Is it possible to have 4 diffrent wallpapers on the 4 workspaces?
[04:19] <PreZ> it does
[04:19] <gordonjcp> irssi+screen ftw
[04:19] <PreZ> I thought it was an ircii/bitchx/irssi thing
[04:19] <gerhard> mezziah, join #sdsdfsdfsd
[04:19] <PreZ> gord, I have irssi + screen for when I IRC from work, but I'm at home right now
[04:19] <menisk> enviouz: heh, got the error.
[04:20] <amagetorv> Does anyone know a quick fix to get the version 7.05 wireless adapter working
[04:20] <enviouz> already installed or older version?
[04:20] <amagetorv> new install v 7.04
[04:20] <PreZ> GG will be out in October, right?
[04:20] <wols> amagetorv: what wlan chip?
[04:20] <menisk> enviouz: Old version available.
[04:20] <amagetorv> orinoco
[04:20] <enviouz> ok just click insatll anyway
[04:20] <menisk> enviouz: I did
[04:21] <PreZ> So what is Shuttleworth going to do when he its Zany Zebra? :P
[04:21] <menisk> enviouz: That one is done.
[04:21] <enviouz> next do the same with the restricted module
[04:22] <wols> !wireless | amagetorv
[04:22] <ubotu> amagetorv: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:22] <brainiac> Hi folks, I was wondering, what's a good webmin alternativ? And plz state alternatives and not im or such..
[04:22] <brainiac> vim
[04:22] <menisk> enviouz: done.
[04:23] <enviouz> now fglrx kernel source
[04:23] <dyrne> brainiac: i dont think there is one.. i mean phpmyadmin is great for sql stuff but..
[04:23] <rbadmin> Hi. Anyone know how I can remove disks from an LVM that is made up of a RAID-1 array? I have 2x500GB SATA drives in an LVM. I need to split the array, recreate an LVM, and add the disks back in (giving me 1TB non-RAID)
[04:23] <menisk> enviouz: Done.
[04:24] <alexseif> how do I install an upgrade to firefox?
[04:24] <enviouz> fglrx control
[04:25] <alexseif>  how do I install an upgrade to firefox?
[04:25] <brainiac> dyrne, there's got to be... this is linux
[04:25] <menisk> enviouz: Done.
[04:25] <Remo_A> hi all
[04:25] <dyrne> alexseif: firefox can update itself but not from major release  i think youd have to just install firefox to go from 1.5 to 2
[04:25] <enviouz> xorg-driver-fglrx-dev
[04:26] <menisk> Remo_A: Hi.
[04:26] <neol> is their anybody here who has nvidia graphics card and yet not installed nvidia drivers ?????
[04:26] <alexseif> i tried "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[04:26] <alexseif> doesn't work
[04:26] <Remo_A> Is there a way to see, what pages link to page? I mean, you know page A and want to find page B, which links to page A.
[04:26] <alexseif> I downloaded the new version now how do I install that
[04:26] <wols> !iceweasel
[04:26] <ubotu> Iceweasel's homepage is http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ with more detailed information at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceweasel
[04:26] <dyrne> brainiac: yeah but not a supported one. the typicall attitude is.. linux uses config files read the guides :)  used to drive me crazy
[04:26] <MisterX> neol: well... replace nvidia with via and im the one youre looking for
[04:26] <Remo_A> page = homepage
[04:27] <enviouz> alexseif:  try upgrade firefox
[04:27] <LungaN> Is it possible to have 4 diffrent wallpapers on the 4 workspaces?
[04:27] <neol> MisterX: no not u ;)
[04:27] <brainiac> dyrne, great... is webmin supported by ubuntu? I've heard it's no longer in deb
[04:27] <zap0> hello,  how do i get a password ?  to login ?
[04:27] <neol> MisterX: did u get ur drivers installed for via ??
[04:27] <dyrne> brainiac: i dont think its in official repos anymore
[04:27] <menisk> enviouz: Dependency not satisfiable... It wants xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:27] <wols> zap0: you set on at intall time
[04:27] <alexseif> yep I think it'll work thnx
[04:27] <Shamai1> how can i make myself mount and unmount drives without using sudo???
[04:27] <menisk> enviouz: Should I do that .bed now?
[04:27] <dyrne> LungaN: in kde it is. dunno about gnome
[04:27] <enviouz> ok sorry about that close the package manager and install the driver first
[04:28] <brainiac> dyrne, do u have it running?
[04:28] <zap0> i no longer have it, wols, can i get it from somewhere on the disk ?      if so, how ?
[04:28] <LungaN> Hmm okey, anyone other have an idea how to do it in gnome? using beryl too
[04:28] <menisk> enviouz: .deb*
[04:28] <neol> MisterX: ??
[04:28] <dyrne> Shamai1: add users,defaults  to options column in fstab instead of just defaults
[04:28] <dyrne> brainiac: nope. sorry
[04:28] <MisterX> no.
[04:28] <MisterX> definitly not.
[04:28] <enviouz> i forgot the driver had to be installed before the dev
[04:28] <dyrne> brainiac: server is fedora anyway right now
[04:28] <WeeJeWel> What would I call the Ctrl-Alt-Del for linux?
[04:28] <alexseif> its not its updating other stuff!!!!!
[04:28] <brainiac> dyrne, hm.. I'll just try itz out in vmware and see if it works properly..
[04:28] <neol> !nvidia
[04:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:28] <Shamai1> thanks
[04:29] <menisk> enviouz: That;s better :)
[04:29] <skreet> I've installed a few .pcf.gz files into /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi and run fc-cache but the fonts.dir file isnt' updated and the font isn't available, any advise?
[04:29] <wols> WeeJeWel: ctrl+alt+del works
[04:29] <enviouz> all installed now?
[04:29] <menisk> enviouz: All installed.
[04:29] <WeeJeWel> wols, nothing happens
[04:29] <LIJI> gordonjcp: Thanks, I got Mencoder to work :)
[04:29] <menisk> enviouz: Do I just shove fglrx in my xorg.conf?
[04:29] <enviouz> ok now try to open the driver manager
[04:29] <enviouz> err restricted manager rather
[04:30] <neol> MisterX: use this command and tell me output of it < glxinfo|grepdirect >
[04:30] <menisk> enviouz: It see the driver, just hit install?
[04:30] <enviouz> is the box checked?
[04:30] <menisk> enviouz: No.
[04:30] <Shamai1> dyrne, can i do the same for pen drivers as wel??
[04:30] <enviouz> ok check the box
[04:31] <menisk> enviouz: Didn't install anything over the top..
[04:31] <menisk> enviouz: Restart X or full reboot?
[04:31] <alexseif> its not its updating other stuff!!!!!
[04:31] <enviouz> shouldnt as the driver is already on your system just wasnt enabled. i usually do a full reboot
[04:31] <Zeelot> hey, I just installed ubuntu feisty the and I wanted to add a simple LAMP server to test my projects but none of it seems to be included, is there a simple way of doing this without installing the server version?
[04:32] <shadeofgrey> has anybiody herr e successfullty installedd ubuntu on a coreduop macbookpro?
[04:32] <menisk> enviouz: I'll jump back on once I've rebooted at let you know how it went.
[04:32] <enviouz> k ill be here
[04:32] <TFrog> anyhone here have any experience calibrating a Saitek joystick in ubuntu?
[04:32] <skreet> I've installed a few .pcf.gz files into /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi and run fc-cache but the fonts.dir file isnt' updated and the font isn't available, any advise?
[04:33] <alexseif> how do you install something that you downloaded ?
[04:34] <Shamai1> alexseif, what u downloaded? i mean the filename
[04:34] <alexseif> firefox
[04:34] <enviouz> alexseif:  is it a .deb?
[04:34] <Shamai1> ok, the best way is look at its readme which is online
[04:34] <shadeofgrey> you doint need it tsusw
[04:34] <alexseif> I can't upgrade it so I downloaded the new version and I want to install it
[04:34] <skreet> Well, you could use Synaptic, that's the easiest way.
[04:34] <alexseif> how do I find that out
[04:34] <shadeofgrey> firefox comesd with the install of ubuntu already
[04:35] <Shamai1> extract it and execute ./firefox
[04:35] <enviouz> whats the file extension?
[04:35] <Shamai1> it will do the rest
[04:35] <skreet> But, if you must download i, get a .deb file and use dpkg -i [filename] 
[04:35] <alexseif> ok
[04:35] <alexseif> I'll try
[04:35] <skreet> I've installed a few .pcf.gz files into /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi and run fc-cache but the fonts.dir file isnt' updated and the font isn't available, any advise?
[04:35] <Shamai1> nd rem if its an update then first del this dir or move it somewhere ~/.mozilla
[04:36] <alexseif> thank you shamail!
[04:36] <zbadone> is there any workarounds for getting sound to work with a Intel 82801G sound chip? it's a Toshiba Satellite A205-S4577?
[04:36] <mcknin> what's the defacto secure FTP daemon these days?
[04:36] <Ireal> zbadone: ah yes, i've had to do something here, try this
[04:36] <skreet> zbadone I'm fairly certain that intel released drivers for that?
[04:37] <grammasta> hey, is anyone familiar with hellanzb here ? I need some help
[04:37] <zbadone> let me have it!
[04:37] <Ireal> zbadone: rmmod the intel driver, then modprobe snd-hda-intel type=laptop
[04:37] <Ireal> i think that fixed it for me
[04:37] <menisk> enviouz: No luck, it says Mesa GLX not the ATI driver.
[04:38] <enviouz> ok something isnt right
[04:38] <grammasta> hello?
[04:38] <zbadone> Ireal: ok, now booting up laptop
[04:38] <menisk> enviouz: The Restricted driver manager is now saying my hardware doesn't need driver, again.
[04:38] <zbadone> will try this method
[04:39] <menisk> enviouz: Why must I have and ATI?
[04:39] <menisk> :P
[04:40] <enviouz> this doesnt make any sense
[04:40] <ubuntu> !grub
[04:40] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:41] <menisk> enviouz: How about we try the old 8.34.8, they worked. Shall I purge the 8.37.6 ones? Or are wee still gonna work this out?
[04:41] <menisk> enviouz: menisk@RustySpork:~$ modinfo fglrx
[04:41] <menisk> modinfo: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko: No such file or directory
[04:42] <menisk> enviouz: That can't be good.
[04:42] <menisk> puckman: Wise...
[04:42] <puckman> anyone know how to make desktop effects work with an ATI X1600 card?
[04:42] <mike3_> AH! ATi
[04:42] <mike3_> run
[04:42] <mike3_> :)
[04:42] <mike3_> Buy an nvidia
[04:42] <enviouz> if they worked fine for you open synaptic and remove the fglrx driver. fglrx control. restricted modules (including common). select complete removal
[04:43] <menisk> puckman: Follow enviouz, he's helping me set my ATI up.
[04:43] <puckman> okido
[04:43] <menisk> puckman: Get compiz fusion, way cooler.
[04:43] <puckman> ok, thats cool too
[04:43] <enviouz> puckman what driver you using?
[04:43] <puckman> but I thought the issue was the driver here
[04:43] <mike3_> Don't listen to menisk, get Beryl
[04:43] <mike3_> :)
[04:43] <P4blo> hi any1 can tell me how to install MythTV on my Ubuntu?
[04:43] <enviouz> puckman yea the old driver
[04:43] <menisk> mike3_: Beryl and compiz have come together again.
[04:43] <mike3_> P4blo, There is a wonderful faq out there.
[04:44] <menisk> mike3_: I worship beryl before this.
[04:44] <puckman> enviouz: I switched on the restricted driver
[04:44] <puckman> enviouz: via the manager, that gave me the full res
[04:44] <enviouz> yea the old driver is still in the repos. the new one will never make it there
[04:44] <menisk> enviouz: He just needs XGL.
[04:44] <P4blo> ye but I need to know just how to install it, I have no questions...
[04:44] <mike3_> P4blo, A quick clue, enable other repositories
[04:44] <mike3_> apt-get install mythtv
[04:44] <mike3_> ta da
[04:44] <mike3_> done
[04:45] <komper>  
[04:45] <puckman> enviouz: so what do I do?
[04:45] <P4blo> ok thx
[04:45] <enviouz> http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/Testing/fglrx-8.37.6-Feisty/  <---- new driver
[04:45] <z0rg> 
[04:45] <Picii> !english
[04:45] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[04:45] <mcknin> Hi everyone, I'm trying to install an ftp daemon through apt-get and it's having problems with my hostname. I changed the /etc/hostname to reflect the correct hostname...but it's still trying to resolve the old one. Is there a way to rehash (per-say) the hostname via /etc/hostnae?
[04:45] <menisk> enviouz: Hope he goes better than I did.
[04:45] <mcknin> /etc/hostname*
[04:45] <z0rg>    #ubuntu-russian
[04:46] <komper>     ...   ...:))
[04:46] <enviouz> menisk:  i think for some reason tehre was still reminants of the one you tried to compile
[04:46] <z0rg> :)
[04:46] <mike3_> mcknin, Which ftp daemon you installing?
[04:46] <mcknin> proftpd
[04:46] <menisk> enviouz: How do I fix that?
[04:47] <menisk> enviouz: I used apt-get purge to remove them.
[04:47] <enviouz> open synaptic remove fglrx driver. fglrx dev. fglrx control. fglrx kernel source. restricted modules (including the common one) then reboot and come back
[04:48] <menisk> enviouz: Yes sir!
[04:48] <puckman> enviouz:
[04:48] <enviouz> yea puckman
[04:48] <puckman> enviouz: I'm there, which one do I download
[04:48] <enviouz> first what kernel do you have?
[04:48] <puckman> How do I check that?
[04:49] <enviouz> in a terminal type uname -r
[04:49] <puckman> I just downloaded ubuntu, installed it and ran update.
[04:49] <mike3_> mcknin, I'm checking for you. I can't belive the Fiesty faq tells you to reboot after changing the hostname.
[04:49] <cycom> ighty mouse on ubuntu? Anyone get it working right?  I keep having this problem where it doesn't detect the buttons.
[04:49] <mike3_> Ubuntu is really trying to make it user friendly/windows. :0
[04:49] <puckman> 2.6.20-16-generic
[04:50] <puckman> enviouz: 2.6.20-16-generic
[04:50] <enviouz> ok get fglrx control and fglrx kernel source first (save them to desktop)
[04:50] <mike3_> mcknin, you there
[04:50] <ndee> how can I generate the same output like the tablename.find method?
[04:51] <puckman> enviouz: done
[04:51] <mike3_> mcknin, just change your /etc/hostname file and try a /etc/init.d/hostname restart
[04:51] <m1r> i am intrested how can i make certain program start before usplash starts
[04:51] <puckman> enviouz: btw thanks!
[04:51] <swami> hello...
[04:51] <mike3_> try looking at the hosts files too
[04:52] <enviouz> np. most people dont know about the updated debs
[04:52] <swami> can someone help me out, in enabling that mac effect in ubuntu.. i saw several youtube videos like that
[04:52] <puckman> enviouz: so whats next ^_^
[04:52] <swami> i mean
[04:52] <puckman> enviouz: I want to show desktop effects to the Mac heads at work
[04:53] <swami> how will i explain what i meant :(
[04:53] <swami> it was like..
[04:53] <GOOCHY> i did it - it's pretty sweet
[04:53] <enviouz> now get linux restricted modules generic and common (these are 2 seperate files) by the way make sure you are getting the .deb files
[04:53] <swami> when the mouse reaches the bar at the bottom
[04:53] <swami> icons keep rolling
[04:53] <swami> and popping out
[04:53] <puckman> enviouz: where do I get these?
[04:54] <enviouz> same page
[04:54] <puckman> aaah, I see
[04:54] <enviouz> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic_2.6.20.5.1-16.1_i386.deb
[04:54] <puckman> erm, there are loads, which ones?
[04:54] <puckman> okido
[04:54] <enviouz> linux-restricted-modules-common_2.6.20.5.1-16.1_all.deb
[04:54] <enviouz> those 2
[04:54] <swami> when i did uname -r it was generic earlier
[04:55] <swami> i refered some forums, and did some thng
[04:55] <swami> now its not generic
[04:55] <swami> its 386
[04:55] <swami> any issues?
[04:55] <puckman> ok, on my desktop
[04:55] <zbadone> Ireal: ok, I think you where BSing me about the modprobe snd_hda_intel type=laptop, funny kid
[04:55] <enviouz> not that i know of but ive never use the 386. only generic and low latency
[04:55] <zbadone> Unkown parameter 'type
[04:56] <swami> no, in the boot loader, both generic and 386 shows up
[04:56] <swami> but when i selct it..
[04:56] <swami> i dint dint any difference
[04:56] <swami> :-<
[04:56] <zbadone> is there any workarounds for getting sound to work with a Intel 82801G sound chip? it's a Toshiba Satellite A205-S4577?
[04:56] <enviouz> now last 2 xorg-driver-fglrx-dev_7.1.0-8.37.6+2.6.20.5.1-16.1_i386.deb   and   xorg-driver-fglrx_7.1.0-8.37.6+2.6.20.5.1-16.1_i386.deb
[04:56] <swami> yeah.. sound is a problem.. in 366 theres no sound :D
[04:56] <swami> 386*
[04:57] <enviouz> change the default kernel should do the trick swami
[04:57] <swami> envoiuz... i am a newbie :(
[04:57] <swami> could u be a bit more specific in what i shud do..
[04:57] <swami> :(
[04:58] <enviouz> let me think a min
[04:58] <swami> orite :)
[04:58] <markvandenborre> what would be the best way to troubleshoot vertical scrolling not working on my touchpad?
[04:58] <mwe> swami: why did you change to the 386 kernel instead of the generic one?
[04:58] <swami> well..
[04:59] <buzzed> i upgraded to 7 and now Nautilus startup bar hangs out long after the desktop has loaded
[04:59] <swami> i was getting an error message sayin some libc header file not present while i was installing the nvidia driver...
[04:59] <swami> so, i did some apt het install thing...
[04:59] <swami> and generic becme 386
[04:59] <swami> :(
[04:59] <Shadeline> how do you add to the startup menu in Ubuntu?
[04:59] <mwe> I see
[05:00] <mike3_> Shadeline, See if there is a scanner
[05:00] <mike3_> i know there is in KDE
[05:00] <swami> an during the process it asked me to insert the ubuntu cd as well
[05:00] <Shadeline> I want to add a program at startup.
[05:00] <mwe> swami: just remove if you don't like it
[05:00] <mike3_> Shadeline, which program?
[05:00] <swami> @mwe
[05:00] <Shadeline> First I want to see if the program starts up as either a service or something else.
[05:00] <Shadeline> firestarter
[05:00] <DJ-_-> hi...when i try to open php pages on firefox at times it shows as download...how do i disable this
[05:00] <swami> cud u tell me the command for that?
[05:01] <Shadeline> the icon does not popup on startup.
[05:01] <mike3_> Shadeline, why not put it in your .gnomerc file?
[05:01] <menisk> enviouz: I've removed all the stuff and rebooted, just shove it on again?
[05:01] <cycom> Anyone working with a mighty mouse in ubuntu?
[05:01] <enviouz> swami:  in terminal do sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:01] <Shadeline> where do i find that file?
[05:01] <mwe> swami: it shouldn't ask for the CD. sounds like your sources.list needs some tuning
[05:01] <mike3_> Shadeline, home directory.
[05:01] <swami> ohh..
[05:01] <mwe> swami: fix that first
[05:01] <swami> am sure it asked the cd :(
[05:01] <swami> okie..
[05:01] <Shadeline> should i use sudo gedit?  or can i edit it normally?
[05:01] <mike3_> if that file isn't there just createe the file and type the command that stars firestarter or whatever
[05:01] <mwe> swami: that's why you need to tune sources.list
[05:01] <swami> just a min :)
[05:01] <mike3_> then reboot gnome
[05:01] <mike3_> that should do it
[05:02] <ubuntuEdgy> im trying to compy some files and i keep getting this error "Error "Access denied" while copying" it have try ssh and ftp nothing seems to work
[05:02] <enviouz> menisk:  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager
[05:02] <mike3_> Shadeline, actually
[05:02] <Shadeline> Mike, in the /home directory?
[05:02] <mike3_> Shadeline, might be a better way
[05:02] <DJ-_-> when i try to open php pages on firefox at times it shows as download...how do i disable this? any ideas?
[05:03] <Shadeline> okay.. is there a management program I could use to see all stuff that starts up and modifiy it?
[05:03] <mike3_> Open Control Center and navigate to Sessions followed by Startup Programs and click on add. Then locate waht you want to add.
[05:03] <mike3_> See if you can do that
[05:03] <Ireal> DJ-_-: enable the mod_php module :)
[05:03] <DJ-_-> Ireal: how? i am not using apache
[05:03] <alexseif> amarok isn't playing the songs it just goes to the next track till the end pf the playlist!
[05:03] <menisk> enviouz: Done.
[05:03] <Ireal> DJ-_-: well, you /need/ apache to parse php scripts :)
[05:03] <trekkme> somehow  i lost all filerpermissions with ubuntu 7, my user is locked out of all folders, weven its own home folder, what can i so to undo that?
[05:03] <wols> Ireal: no
[05:03] <Shadeline> location of control center, Mike?
[05:03] <DJ-_-> Ireal: I am just using firefox to surf some web server
[05:03] <Shamai1> what format song u r playn?
[05:03] <mike3_> alecw1, Does your startup sound work?
[05:04] <Ireal> wols: no?
[05:04] <neol> wols: how do i know whether my onboard graphics card supports 3d acceleratoin or beryl ??
[05:04] <swami> @enviouz : if i insert a "#" will it be removed? or i have to delete them?
[05:04] <wols> almost any webserver can run php via fastcgi and php5-cli can run it as normal scrtipts
[05:04] <DJ-_-> Ireal: you did not get what I mean, I said at times firefox shows up the download window when opening php pages
[05:04] <Cybe> Does anyone know a roulette game for Linux?
[05:04] <puckman> urg, fucking phone
[05:04] <enviouz> i usually move the one i want as default to the top
[05:04] <neol> wols: is there some command for it ??
[05:04] <dyrne> trekkme: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~
[05:04] <mike3_> neol, Look up linux compatable hardware..
[05:04] <puckman> enviouz: so I got those 4 files on my desktop
[05:05] <enviouz> but yea i think you can just use # to comment it out
[05:05] <swami> ohh.. thats nice :)
[05:05] <Shadeline> Thanks Mike3_ !!
[05:05] <alexseif> amarok isn't playing the songs it just goes to the next track till the end pf the playlist!
[05:05] <enviouz> puckman should have 6
[05:05] <Ireal> wols: okay, do you want me to say webserver instead of apache ?
[05:05] <mike3_> neol, Search web.. If you want to see if it's enabled. you can use glxinfo |grep render
[05:05] <swami> okie.. lemme try it :)
[05:05] <neol> mike3_: that is their but i wannted the command... is theri some command for it ??
[05:05] <DJ-_-> anyone know why firefox shows up a download window at certain times when trying to view php pages?
[05:05] <menisk> enviouz: I have installed the restricted modules, what next?
[05:05] <puckman> enviouz: /me scrolls back up
[05:05] <IdleOne> !language | puckman
[05:05] <ubotu> puckman: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:05] <FunnyLookinHat> Cybe, I don't think there is one..  I can't find one at least   : (
[05:06] <Cybe> FunnyLookinHat - But there must be :s I've searched everywhere too
[05:06] <enviouz> menisk:  open the restricted manager and try to enable the driver again (it should download a few files)
[05:06] <Sevensins> hello everybody
[05:06] <neverblue> morning
[05:06] <alexseif> amarok isn't playing the songs it just goes to the next track till the end pf the playlist!
[05:06] <puckman> enviouz: what were the last 2 files?
[05:06] <FunnyLookinHat> Cybe, There's probably an online (flash) game available somewhere that you could play
[05:06] <Sevensins> i think i have a question only one of you people can answer
[05:06] <zbadone> Ireal: ok, I think you where BSing me about the modprobe snd_hda_intel type=laptop, funny kid
[05:06] <hellogoodbye> does ubuntu support side scrolling on a trackpad? (my vertical scrolling works)
[05:06] <mike3_> neol, I'm not to sure if I know what you mean
[05:07] <menisk> enviouz: It did.
[05:07] <Cybe> FunnyLookinHat: Yes I know, just wanted one for download
[05:07] <nivekc1> what i wine good for cuz i cant get it to do anything
[05:07] <neol> mike3_: that is only for 3d acceleration, what about beryl supporting ???
[05:07] <nivekc1> lol
[05:07] <enviouz> xorg-driver-fglrx-dev_7.1.0-8.37.6+2.6.20.5.1-16.1_i386.deb   and   xorg-driver-fglrx_7.1.0-8.37.6+2.6.20.5.1-16.1_i386.deb
[05:07] <DJ-_-> wols: hi, do know why firefox shows up a download window at certain times when trying to open php pages?
[05:07] <FunnyLookinHat> Cybe, http://wizardofodds.com/play/roulette/
[05:07] <Ireal> zbadone: i wasnt :)
[05:07] <menisk> enviouz: I'll restart and let you know how it goes.
[05:07] <FunnyLookinHat> Cybe, oh ok.  well I don't think there is one unfortunately
[05:07] <enviouz> k ill be here
[05:07] <swami> enviouz, : done.. so lemme reboot and check it?
[05:07] <mike3_> neol, What do you mean what about Beryl?
[05:07] <swami> :)
[05:07] <enviouz> k swami ill be here
[05:07] <zbadone> Unkown parameter 'type
[05:07] <Shamai1> alexseif, which song r u tryin to play! imean format
[05:07] <mike3_> Will your hardware support Beryl?
[05:07] <swami> :)
[05:07] <Cybe> FunnyLookinHat: No, it's too bad :( but thanks anyway :)
[05:07] <alexseif> mp3
[05:08] <Shamai1> ok
[05:08] <zbadone> Ireal: Unkown parameter "type"
[05:08] <IdleOne> neol, if your hardware supports 3d then you can run beryl
[05:08] <sehute> How do I pair my bluetooth device? The bluetooth dongle works. hcitool scan works. The dialog asking for a pin-code does not appear. I'm using Feisty.
[05:08] <Shamai1> then have u installed proper decoder 4 that
[05:08] <alexseif> i dunno?
[05:08] <Shamai1> ubuntu doesn't defaults to play mp3
[05:08] <nivekc1> isnt wine supposed to allow me to install software intended for windows?
[05:08] <Sevensins> i have a soundblaster audigy and i use jokosher to record some audio ... it works fine as long as everything is set to auto it all playys ... and records ... but as soon as i chosse arch ALSA it doesnt work ... i reconized that it must have st to do with a device called "sink" st for audio input
[05:08] <alexseif> bansheee works
[05:08] <Shamai1> means have u installed somethin in addition
[05:08] <acbot> cheeky ubuntu throws me in here on first boot of xchat :p
[05:08] <Ireal> zbadone: ah, it was model. check out modinfo and use your own brain a bit as well :)
[05:08] <neol> mike3_: yes it should support beryl
[05:08] <IdleOne> nivekc1, #winehq can help you more
[05:08] <alexseif> nope
[05:08] <nivekc1>  ok thanks
[05:08] <Shamai1> nd which level user r u?
[05:09] <alexseif> I'm new to linux
[05:09] <Shamai1> then to tell u first
[05:09] <skreet> I've installed a few .pcf.gz files into /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi and run fc-cache but the fonts.dir file isnt' updated and the font isn't available, any advise?
[05:09] <neol> IdleOne: are u sure about that ???
[05:09] <jimcooncat> alexseif: welcome to the dark side
[05:09] <alexseif> but I don't mind diging tutorials and docs
[05:09] <mike3_> alexseif, Make sure amarok is looking at the right source for sound.
[05:09] <Shamai1> ubuntu doesnot have decoder 4 mp3 by default
[05:09] <alexseif> well I have to engines
[05:09] <IdleOne> neol, sure about what?
[05:10] <alexseif> and the sound is on autodetect
[05:10] <alexseif> sorry thats 2 engines
[05:10] <mike3_> alexseif, Is it one song, or many songs?
[05:10] <Shamai1> to play mp3 on players like amrok totem etc u need gstreamer-plugin-mp3
[05:10] <neol> IdleOne: about this < if your hardware supports 3d then you can run beryl >
[05:10] <alexseif> its any song
[05:10] <alexseif> ok one sec
[05:10] <IdleOne> neol, yeah
[05:10] <bartzitz> hello, could anyone help me with feisty netboot'ing?
[05:11] <IdleOne> !beryl | neol
[05:11] <ubotu> neol: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:11] <DJ-_-> anyone know why firefox shows up a download window at certain times when trying to open php web pages?
[05:11] <shaw1> I'm new to Linux and am using Ubuntu.  I can't get my Maxtor One Touch to mount. Can anyone help?
[05:11] <alexseif> shamail: I still couldn't upgrade my firefox! I can run it of the folder but it doesn't replace the old version
[05:11] <marltu> hello. I want to play .ts file. What codecs do I need because totem player says that i don't have proper codec to play and it asks to install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg but it's already installed
[05:12] <Shamai1> ok
[05:12] <mike3_> shaw1, What is the filesystem?
[05:12] <menisk> enviouz: \o/ Compiz once more, thank you.
[05:12] <Shamai1> so have u removed ~/.mozilla
[05:12] <Shamai1> u need to wash away this dir
[05:12] <sehute> DJ: Uninstall the fasterfox extension, install the download statusbar extension. This is what I would have done.
[05:12] <shaw1> I can't recall.  I last used it with Win XP a year ago.
[05:12] <mike3_> you'll loose your bookmakrs.
[05:12] <mike3_> be carefuls
[05:12] <Shamai1> the the command like ./firefox will start the new firefox
[05:12] <mike3_> shaw1, Chances are it's ntfs
[05:12] <enviouz> np menisk
[05:12] <Shamai1> take a backup
[05:12] <shaw1> That's my guess.
[05:13] <DJ-_-> sehute: no other way you know of?
[05:13] <mike3_> shaw1, mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/dirc
[05:13] <bartzitz> anyone has experience with netboot installation?
[05:13] <alexseif> no I'm scared to do that
[05:13] <enviouz> sorry the new driver didnt work
[05:13] <mike3_> shaw1, How are you hooking it up? USB?
[05:13] <sehute> DJ-_-: are you on the latest version of firefox without any extensions?
[05:13] <Shamai1> then dont remove, just move it somewhere
[05:13] <mike3_> shaw1, If so, it should automount to your desktop
[05:13] <Zeelot> hey, I just installed ubuntu feisty the and I wanted to add a simple LAMP server to test my projects but none of it seems to be included, is there a simple way of doing this without installing the server version?
[05:13] <DJ-_-> bartzitz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[05:13] <Shamai1> nd if u're stuck then move back them
[05:13] <shaw1> Connected via firewire
[05:13] <menisk> enviouz: You can apologise for helping :P
[05:14] <DJ-_-> sehute: i am on the latest version but with extensions
[05:14] <sehute> DJ-_-: I think it's one of your extensions
[05:14] <sehute> DJ-_-: I've had similar problems with Fasterfox
[05:14] <mike3_> Zeelot, You don't have to install the server version for any server servicese. :) Should all be in Synaptic.
[05:14] <DJ-_-> sehute: ok, just have 3 extensions including fasterfox
[05:14] <neol> IdleOne: mike3_ thanks
[05:14] <sehute> DJ-_-: then remove fasterfox, you don't need it anywars
[05:14] <alexseif> Shamai1: I found gstreamer-0.10-fluendo-mp3
[05:14] <shaw1> Mike3, it's connected via firewire.
[05:14] <sehute> DJ-_-: anyways
[05:14] <puckman> enviouz: thanks for the help so far but have to run off, son is sick :(
[05:14] <DJ-_-> sehute: wont it become slow?
[05:15] <enviouz> i just know how it is to do things over again thats all
[05:15] <sehute> DJ-_-: no
[05:15] <Zeelot> mike3_: hmm I couldnt seem to find but I'll look again
[05:15] <DJ-_-> sehute: the surfing?
[05:15] <alexseif> but not the one you stated
[05:15] <mike3_> shaw1, Have you tried just plugging it in?
[05:15] <Shamai1> i thought it should do
[05:15] <sehute> DJ-_-: No, it will just work
[05:15] <DJ-_-> sehute: ok, if you say so
[05:15] <enviouz> ok puckman
[05:15] <Shamai1> actually, honestly m a FEDORA user
[05:15] <Zeelot> I search for apache and nothing comes up
[05:15] <sehute> DJ-_-: You could also try changing the settings in fasterfox to something less insane
[05:15] <Zeelot> same with PHP
[05:15] <mike3_> Zeelot, Did you enable the third party respotoires ?
[05:15] <Shamai1> so 4 me i yum that thing
[05:15] <DJ-_-> sehute: lol ok
[05:15] <marcel__> I am trying to make my html document executable by typing chmod a+x document.html  but nothing happens - where's my mistake?
[05:15] <mike3_> repositories?
[05:15] <sehute> DJ-_-: :)
[05:15] <Shamai1> rpm.livna.org
[05:16] <swami> ohhh
[05:16] <Zeelot> mike3_: where do I do that?
[05:16] <enviouz> Shamai1:  fedora huh
[05:16] <swami> i forgot the name of the person to whom i was talking :(
[05:16] <swami> yeahhh
[05:16] <alexseif> who uses amarok on ubuntu ?
[05:16] <mike3_> Zeelot, secv
[05:16] <swami> enviouz, hi
[05:16] <DJ-_-> sehute: well tx, i guess i will just stick to it then, cuz I need all the current settings until i get fed up tx ne wayz
[05:16] <swami> everythig is fine :)
[05:16] <enviouz> hey swami
[05:16] <marltu> how to launch .ts movie under ubuntu?
[05:16] <enviouz> great :)
[05:16] <swami> how do i make this xchat like mirc?
[05:16] <alexseif> who uses amarok on ubuntu ?
[05:16] <Shamai1> m cluleless, u r on ubuntu right??
[05:16] <swami> i mean i cant see the names of the people :(
[05:16] <Zeelot> in software sources there is nothing under third party
[05:17] <marcel__> how do you make file executable ?
[05:17] <mike3_> Zeelot, try this http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[05:17] <disposable> marcel__, chmod ugo+x filename
[05:17] <sehute> DJ-_-: there are articles about how you can change the settings under about:config manually. That way you don't need fasterfox and can change only the settings that makes things work well for you and not screw up the php-pages
[05:17] <swami> and join quit messages is what i see more than the talks ::O
[05:17] <DJ-_-> marcel__: in terminal do: ./filename
[05:17] <mike3_> swami, change the colors
[05:17] <swami> colors..
[05:17] <swami> okie. :)
[05:17] <swami> i just installed ubuntu yesterday..
[05:17] <sehute> DJ-_-: good luck anyways
[05:17] <DJ-_-> sehute: get me a few of them in pm
[05:17] <swami> and i understood most of my questions are kinda silly
[05:17] <swami> :-s
[05:18] <sehute> DJ-_-: neh, search the web yourself. :)
[05:18] <marcel__> it says syntax error
[05:18] <DJ-_-> sehute: well i saw the http pipelining max reqs and more stuff, i have tweaked it before...even with initial delay and stuff but still seems slow
[05:18] <marcel__> ./document.html: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[05:18] <marcel__> ./document.html: line 1: `<html>'
[05:18] <enviouz> Shamai1:  were you talking 2 me?
[05:18] <eallik> I have a (probably) stupid question: I used to be able to find and install JEdit in Synaptic Package Manager, but ever since I messed with some java and java related packages, I cannot install it (it gives me an error message the concent of which I don't remember but had something to do with dependencies).. a while ago a did a complete removal of the package after which the package dissapeared completely... apt-get install jedit says: Package
[05:18] <eallik> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:18] <eallik> is only available from another source
[05:18] <jimcooncat> hi, first time using xchat-gnome. I like it, but where do I turn off join/part messages?
[05:19] <DJ-_-> sehute: any other you know of?
[05:19] <DJ-_-> sehute: dont worry i have done ma research before getting help hehe
[05:19] <disposable> marcel__, are you trying to execute a html document?
[05:19] <sehute> DJ-_-: Actually, I would recommend just uninstalling fasterfox anyways. If it's slow, try Swiftfox instead or upgrade your internet connection.
[05:19] <marcel__> yes
[05:19] <lexmessiah> anything to see the user list, using default xchat ?
[05:19] <marcel__> not possible?
[05:19] <kipseron> somone can help me i insall beryl and when i try to change the windows manager to beryl its go back to gdm and dont work
[05:19] <shookie> hey guys.. im trying to get my firewall script to load at boot. rc2-5.d
[05:19] <disposable> marcel__, no. you can only execure programs.
[05:20] <disposable> s/execure/execute
[05:20] <shookie> how do i do that? its located in /etc/firehol/firehol.sh
[05:20] <DJ-_-> sehute: well ok, ma net is fine on 512kbps, i will look into firefox a bit
[05:20] <gerro> anyone in here using a dell latitude with feisty?
[05:20] <bartzitz> noone uses netboot installations here, really?
[05:20] <marcel__> thanks, you saved me a lot of time
[05:20] <mike3_> shookie, iMaybe call it via rc.local
[05:20] <mike3_> ?
[05:20] <DJ-_-> sehute: tx 4 ya tym
[05:20] <swami> mike3_, i am in the colors window
[05:20] <sehute> DJ-_-: good luck to you :)
[05:20] <marcel__> so there is no way of opening a file from command line?
[05:20] <shookie> mike3: wish i know how to do so...
[05:20] <kipseron> what file
[05:20] <kipseron> marcel
[05:20] <kipseron> ?
[05:20] <mike3_> swami, Play aroun with colors.
[05:20] <Zeelot> mike3_:  all the official repositories are enabled
[05:20] <swami> ohkie :D
[05:20] <gerro> marcel__: use cat file to display it or cat file | less so you press spacebar to view page at a time, to edit it try vi
[05:21] <mike3_> Zeelot, Ok search for your app.
[05:21] <Zeelot> multiverse and all those
[05:21] <disposable> marcel__, browsername ./document.html
[05:21] <gerro> marcel__: vi very difficult for beginner I recommend moving documents to a non text mode environment then editing them.
[05:21] <mike3_> gerro, Use nano
[05:21] <disposable> marcel__, use: links, dillo, w3m, konqueror, firefox, opera instead of 'browsername'
[05:21] <sehute> fopen("myfile", "r");
[05:22] <marcel__> thanks disposable, it works!!!!
[05:22] <swami> mike3_, so u r saying colors is the only option? i cant disable those messages that come from the server? i mean.. i only want the messages that come from people?
[05:22] <kipseron> somone can help me i insall beryl and when i try to change the windows manager to beryl its go back to gdm and dont work
[05:22] <kipseron> ?
[05:22] <sehute> marcel__: pico, jed or nano should work for you
[05:22] <disposable> marcel__, no problem
[05:22] <Zeelot> mike3_: apache still returns nothing
[05:22] <mike3_> swami, I'm sure there is some options.  You'd have to google.
[05:22] <marcel__> thanks and bye
[05:22] <sx66> how do I get xmradio to work with firefox?
[05:22] <swami> ohkie :)
[05:22] <swami> lemme see :)
[05:22] <mike3_> Zeelot, Are you trying to install apache?
[05:22] <Zeelot> apache mysql and php
[05:23] <gerro> marcel__: or nano that is good too
[05:23] <Zeelot> I need apache2 and php5 but not even old ones are showing up
[05:23] <predaeus> jimcooncat, to disable part/join messages, quit xchat, then edit ~/.xchat/xchat.conf and set irc_conf_mode = 1
[05:23] <mike3_> Zeelot, from the cmd line if you put in apt-get install apache
[05:23] <mike3_> Zeelot, what happens?
[05:23] <shookie> can i put something like S19firehol in rc2.d and the contents be #!/bin/sh ... /path/to/script
[05:23] <predaeus> jimcooncat, to disable part/join messages temporary, right click on channel tap and select the appropriate option
[05:23] <mike3_> shookie, you have the right idea, but place it in the file /etc/rc.local
[05:24] <Zeelot> yea that works...weird, why don't they show in add/remove?
[05:24] <mike3_> Zeelot, You are suppose to do it via Synaptic
[05:24] <jimcooncat> predaeus: thanks!
[05:24] <mike3_> Zeelot, That's the frontend to apt-get
[05:24] <mike3_> Zeelot, Not add/Remove
[05:24] <Zeelot> mike3_: alright
[05:25] <mike3_> It's 95 degree today!
[05:25] <jimcooncat> predaeus: I don't see the tabs here like I do with xchat
[05:25] <mike3_> man
[05:25] <Zeelot> mike3_: thanks
[05:25] <mike3_> Zeelot, np
[05:26] <predaeus> jimcooncat, ? you can chose between tree or tab view under View/Layout/..
[05:26] <jimcooncat> predaeus: no View menu, using XChat-GNOME 0.16
[05:27] <shaw1> mike3_, yes I have it plugged in now.  It shows up in Gnome Partition Editor as unallocated space, but wont mount.  I tried the command you provided but it says the mount point doesn't exist.
[05:27] <predaeus> jimcooncat, ah, I just use regular xchat, didn't like the gnome minimalistic interface for it. you can just install the other xchat from repositories if you want to try.
[05:27] <Bassetts> how could i test the input of my mic, is there a loopback program or anything?
[05:27] <swami> mike3_,  : done :)
[05:28] <swami> now it dont look cluttered at all :)
[05:28] <monicams> ola
[05:28] <unimatrix9> hello all, nice to see you
[05:28] <shookie> mike3_: i need it to run before another application that is running at S202
[05:28] <monicams> kien sois
[05:28] <mike3_> shaw1, That command was an example
[05:28] <shookie> mike3_: i need it to run before another application that is running at S20
[05:28] <monicams> teneis
[05:28] <monicams> msn
[05:28] <monicams> ?
[05:28] <predaeus> Bassetts, you could use audacity, or that gnome record program, or also teamspeak to test
[05:28] <enviouz> shaw1: what are you trying to use as the mount point?
[05:28] <monicams> decidme vuestros msn
[05:28] <jimcooncat> predaeus: thanks. I use xchat at home and had to mess with it a lot to get it to look nice. This one looked nice out of the gate, the join/part thing is the only irritant so far. Appreciate the help.
[05:28] <unimatrix9> how would i use the gamepad, so that it works as a mouse?
[05:29] <Vich> vi is evil
[05:29] <pakas> hey
[05:29] <shookie> rc.local runs after everythin loads correct?
[05:29] <Bassetts> predaeus, that gnome record program?
[05:29] <mike3_> shookie, I need to figure that out myself too. :) I've been lazy. I've only been using Ubunto for 3 days
[05:29] <pakas> some one use nubuntu?
[05:29] <shookie> good advise
[05:29] <Vich> sorry pakas, that's how I feel
[05:29] <mike3_> shookie, I'm a Gentoo user
[05:29] <shookie> ahh
[05:29] <mike3_> =)
[05:29] <hendrixski> Vich, there are people who would start an argument with you over that statement
[05:29] <ryanakca> ubotu, please tell monicams about es
[05:29] <pakas> ?
[05:29] <Vich> I know hendrixski
[05:29] <monicams> monica_la_mas_pija@jotmail.com
[05:29] <predaeus> jimcooncat, then just exit xchat and change the config setting for it to be always disabled like I explained above. Should work with gnome-xchat too I think. But you need to exit first, or it will overwrite the settings when you quit.
[05:30] <Vich> some people might say that I like starting arguments
[05:30] <mike3_> shookie, Got fed up when I messed up my box and wanted my MythTV box back up and running in the same night. Ubuntu was the way to go. I am actually very very impress with how much was supported out of the box.
[05:30] <predaeus> Bassetts, sorry I do not remember it's name, I am not using Gnome anymore, can't look.
[05:30] <hendrixski> Vich, ah... well, if you like arguments then there are a few topics that will ALWAYS start one... like religion, Politics, and prefered editor
[05:31] <disposable> Vich, do you have a question or do you just enjoy making the screen scroll faster with unnecessary rubbish?
[05:31] <swami> i googled a lot.. but never got any method to enable that mac effect shown in youtube videos :(
[05:32] <Vich> unfortunately the latter, disposable
[05:32] <unimatrix9> i like to use the gamepad to control gnome desktop, how can i do this? any tips are welcome!
[05:32] <Vich> but at least I'm honest
[05:32] <predaeus> swami, you mean expos?
[05:32] <swami> i mean
[05:32] <swami> i really dont know the name..
[05:32] <swami> i have seen on a mac..
[05:32] <hendrixski> Is there a separate command for creating debian packages from Qt applications?
[05:33] <swami> when the mouse pointer reaches the bottom of the screen..
[05:33] <mp3guy> is there a guide somewhere that tells you how to install windows on a second hard disk AFTER installing ubuntu?
[05:33] <Vich> swami
[05:33] <hendrixski> I seem to be doing something wrong, and that's the nearest thing I can think of
[05:33] <swami> several icons pop up
[05:33] <swami> and keeps on rolling
[05:33] <Vich> you mean all the windows laid out
[05:33] <Vich> oh
[05:33] <Vich> that's a dock
[05:33] <swami> Vich:
[05:33] <swami> yeah
[05:33] <mike3_> mp3guy, Just run it under vmware.
[05:33] <mike3_> :)
[05:33] <swami> dock :D
[05:33] <hendrixski> mp3guy, yeah, those guides will generally tell you not to do it...
[05:33] <mp3guy> mike3_, performance is too crap under vmware
[05:33] <unimatrix9> mp3guy, i think you can install, and after that reinstall grub
[05:33] <swami> how do i get that? :)
[05:34] <Vich> you could try gnome-dock or kibi-dock
[05:34] <predaeus> !enter
[05:34] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:34] <idiot> i have a script that is using an 'su root -c command', asking for a password, and failing (presumably because there is no root user).  script is written by someone else and can't be changed...any suggestions on how to get around this?
[05:34] <unimatrix9> !grub
[05:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:34] <mp3guy> would it be safer to disconnect my ubuntu drive while installing windows?
[05:34] <swami> ubotu: sorry for that :(
[05:34] <unimatrix9> after installing windows!, look there!
[05:34] <Shadeline> I have tried to use sessions as a way to have FIRESTARTER start up on Ubuntu, but everytime it starts up.. it says I do not have root privelges and it will not startup!!
[05:34] <Vich> swami: do a search for dock at ubuntuforums.org
[05:34] <Vich> you'll find some guides and feedback
[05:34] <swami> ooops
[05:34] <hendrixski> mp3guy, when you install windows it will put in its own boot loader, which won't recognize anything but windows
[05:34] <swami> ubotu was a bot :O
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about was a bot :o - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <Vich> yeah lol
[05:35] <inmalopezortiz> ola
[05:35] <unimatrix9> mp3guy, just make sure windows does not overwrite your ubuntu partition
[05:35] <kbrooks> Shadeline, yes. you typed "firestarter", not  "gksudo firestarter".
[05:35] <swami> then how did it understand that , intellegent bot b-)
[05:35] <hendrixski> mp3guy, so you'll have to reinstall grub after reinstalling Windows
[05:35] <unimatrix9> !grub
[05:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:35] <mike3_> mp3guy, It's not that hard at all. Just make sure you install it on a sepearte partition and that you configure Grub to load Windows. That's it
[05:35] <Shadeline> will gksudo help?
[05:35] <unimatrix9> read the after install windows, or lost ...etc
[05:35] <kbrooks> Shadeline, yes...
[05:35] <mp3guy> hendrixski, unimatrix9, I'm aware of all of this, just want to make sure there is a fool proof guide to do it somewhere
[05:35] <Shadeline> what is the difference between sudo and gksudo??
[05:35] <unimatrix9> or o as mike say's
[05:36] <Vich> !windows | Vich
[05:36] <kbrooks> Shadeline, sudo is cli, gksudo is gui
[05:36] <kbrooks> !gksudo | Shadeline
[05:36] <ubotu> Shadeline: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[05:36] <unimatrix9> hmm, diner is ready
[05:36] <unimatrix9> :P
[05:36] <unimatrix9> bye all happy tuxing!
[05:36] <Shadeline> Oh.
[05:36] <Shadeline> Thanks, kbrooks!
[05:36] <Vich> lol mental health clinic
[05:36] <Vich> :S
[05:37] <simpleH> Hey, how do I get ubuntu to have middle click support? it's not recognizing clicking the scroll wheel on my wireless targus mouse.
[05:37] <hendrixski> mp3guy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=295420
[05:37] <shaw1> mike3_, sorry I misunderstood
[05:37] <shaw1> Like I said, I'm new to this.
[05:37] <Vich> simpleH: it should have it by default
[05:37] <Vich> it does vary between applications
[05:37] <simpleH> odd...like it recognizes scrolling, but it wont autoscroll on clicking
[05:38] <Vich> what application?
[05:38] <Be-Cool> the best command i ever seen (sudo apt-get) :)
[05:38] <simpleH> firefox
[05:38] <dyrne> simpleH: you can edit gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  that is where the setting for mouse is anyway
[05:38] <Vich> is autoscroll enabled in the firefox config?
[05:38] <skreet> exit
[05:38] <Vich> tools->options->advanced
[05:38] <simpleH> ah, thanks, it wasn't
[05:38] <simpleH> lemme check if it works now
[05:38] <mike3_> shaw1, What you need to do if find out which filesystem is on that drive
[05:38] <simpleH> awesome, thanks :D
[05:39] <Vich> no worries
[05:39] <simpleH> I hadn't configured firefox in so long I forgot...it's one of those set it and forget situations, hehe
[05:39] <hendrixski> Is there a separate command for creating debian packages from Qt applications?
[05:39] <mike3_> shaw1, The good thing is, is that your firewire is supported and found under Ubuntu. So it's that much easier for you. Just find out what filesystem. Sounds like it doesn't see anything.
[05:39] <milestone> is there a way to verify that a boot sector that i installed with grub will work?
[05:39] <milestone> i mean before rebooting the system?
[05:40] <kbrooks> milestone, youy can use qemu.
[05:40] <shaw1> How do I find out the filesystem?
[05:40] <kbrooks> milestone, sudo apt-get install qemu; sudo qemu -hda /dev/sda (etc...)
[05:40] <mattwalston> I have two ubuntu installs and both offer the same behavior, anyone have a suggestion before I file a bug... when running # ifconfig tun0 10.0.0.191 pointtopoint 10.0.0.181 both the inet addr and p-t-p are set to 10.0.0.181
[05:40] <milestone> kbrooks: aha ok i will check it out
[05:40] <mattwalston> It is reproduced every time
[05:40] <CarlFK> box duel boots Ubuntu and XP.  I can't remember my XP password.  is there some way I can reset it if I boot into Ubuntu?
[05:40] <kbrooks> milestone, but it does require root privs for accessing the hd direectly.
[05:41] <kbrooks> milestone, hence the sudo.
[05:41] <kbrooks> CarlFK, should be a way.
[05:41] <milestone> kbrooks: i am root ;)
[05:41] <milestone> ok i will check it out
[05:42] <kbrooks> milestone, no you are not
[05:42] <disposable> CarlFK, you should find some 'sam database' or something like that. google for it. or try #windows
[05:42] <Vich> lol
[05:42] <dyrne> CarlFK: there are tools i think i saw some discussion of that in the slax forum recently also
[05:42] <Vich> CarlFK -> foget that
[05:42] <Vich> *forget
[05:42] <kbrooks> milestone, "sudo ..." gives root privileges to the command passed to it.
[05:42] <Vich> there is a bootable disck
[05:42] <milestone> kbrooks: as far as i can tell (and hope) i am :-) I did sudo su -
[05:42] <swami> Vich:
[05:42] <kbrooks> milestone, do not do that.
[05:42] <swami> W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA
[05:42] <swami> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:42] <swami> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:42] <Vich> you can overwrite the password, or blank it out
[05:42] <milestone> kbrooks: ok
[05:42] <swami> what does that mean :(
[05:42] <kbrooks> !sudo | milestone
[05:42] <ubotu> milestone: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:43] <Vich> 2 different things swami
[05:43] <kbrooks> milestone, there is an alternative command to "sudo su -" in that page.
[05:43] <swami> i did that to get a dock thing
[05:43] <swami> :(
[05:43] <CarlFK> Vich: sounds good.  URL?
[05:43] <Vich> 1. You don't have the key added
[05:43] <Vich> one moment CarlFK
[05:43] <milestone> kbrooks: that i did not know. I will read that too
[05:43] <kbrooks> Vich, it's only a warning
[05:43] <BaRbOnErOsSo> hello
[05:43] <kbrooks> Vich, not a error
[05:43] <shaw1> mike3_, how do I determine the filesystem on this disk?
[05:43] <rambo3> wazzup
[05:43] <swami> Vich: this is what i did
[05:43] <swami> wget http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42/8434D43A.gpg
[05:43] <swami> sudo apt-key add 8434D43A.gpg
[05:43] <swami> rm 8434D43A.gpg
[05:43] <swami> sudo apt-get update
[05:44] <kenro_> Are there any DCclient devs here?
[05:44] <rambo3> shaw1, sudo fdisk -l
[05:44] <Vich> swami, which dock are you trying to instal
[05:45] <kenro_> My DirectConnect client didn't come with a hublist. How do I add one?
[05:45] <kbrooks> swami, look at your GUI for  any package mjanager that might be locking 'apt-get update'. shut it down.
[05:45] <kbrooks> swami, then rerun that.
[05:45] <BaRbOnErOsSo> i've a samba/win lan but eac new file added in windows network side  although  in a shared directory, can't be open in the samba side net
[05:45] <swami> ohh
[05:45] <cycom> Man, I got my mighty mouse squeeze working, but I still can't get left and right on the trackball :(
[05:45] <BaRbOnErOsSo> somebody coul help me?
[05:45] <swami> sorry, i had forgotten to to close that synapitic
[05:45] <swami> my bad
[05:45] <swami> :D
[05:45] <shaw1> rambo3, thank you.  The drive doesn't show up in there.  Probably because I can't get it to mount?
[05:45] <kbrooks> Vich, wrong question. you meant to ask is synaptic running'
[05:45] <Vich> yes
[05:46] <Vich> that was the second thing
[05:46] <disposable> BaRbOnErOsSo, people are too busy typing your nick
[05:46] <Vich> 1. the key, 2. synaptic
[05:46] <Vich> I'm just trying to answer too many questions at once at 1:45am in the morning
[05:46] <Vich> CarlFK: http://www.petri.co.il/forgot_administrator_password.htm#1
[05:46] <swami> Vich: now there is no eeror :)
[05:46] <swami> error*
[05:46] <disposable> BaRbOnErOsSo, can you post your smb.conf somewhere?
[05:47] <CarlFK> Vich: thanks
[05:47] <rambo3> shaw1 yes
[05:47] <Vich> np
[05:47] <BaRbOnErOsSo> where is located this file?
[05:47] <swami> but, i cant see anything got installed... usually i used to see it in system preferences
[05:47] <BaRbOnErOsSo> i'm really newbie
[05:47] <disposable> BaRbOnErOsSo, /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:48] <neol> how do i open any folder as root so i can delete files easily in GUI mode ???? :)
[05:48] <Vich> lol in gui mode
[05:49] <kbrooks> Vich, stop laughing :-) help him
[05:49] <neol> Vich: i guess that is possible
[05:49] <chris3435> i need help i am trying to get a logitech dual action gamepad to work with epsxe. When i try to configure the gamepad inside of epsxe all the buttons work fine except the analog stick and direction buttons. I ran jscalibrator the direction buttons + analog stick run fine in it. it just doesnt work for epsxe
[05:49] <disposable> neol, i'm not sure if it's possible, but try 'sudo nautilus'
[05:49] <milestone> kbrooks: Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated
[05:49] <neol> Vich: by using nautilus
[05:49] <rambo3> shaw1  if you prefer you can use gparted to list fs.
[05:49] <Vich> kbrooks, are you training me or something?
[05:49] <kbrooks> milestone, um, ignore that error :-)
[05:49] <disposable> neol, or 'gksu nautilus'
[05:49] <neol> disposable: i know some other way ??
[05:49] <kbrooks> milestone, it's not necessary for a simple test
[05:49] <kbrooks> disposable, gksu == gksudo
[05:49] <tucci> I downloaded a program that's not in any repository, but I can't figure out how to open it. I've got the bin file but nothing happens when i click on it
[05:49] <neol> disposable: instead of using nautilus ??
[05:49] <Vich> yeah
[05:50] <rambo3> tucci, ./file.bon
[05:50] <rambo3> bin
[05:50] <Vich> neol, why wouldn't you want to use nautilus?
[05:50] <disposable> neol, if you've konqueror installed you can do the same with konqueror
[05:50] <neol> ok thanks anyways
[05:50] <Vich> neol: basically, you run an instance of the file-manager as root
[05:50] <MeeKs> can ubuntu be installed and booted off an external usb drive
[05:51] <nblracer> im running the newest release of Ubuntu, and the synaptic manger has changed from what im last used too. How do i add unoficail or beta repositorys
[05:51] <rambo3> !install | MeeKs
[05:51] <ubotu> MeeKs: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[05:51] <Vich> I don't see why not MeeKs
[05:51] <rambo3>  MeeKs   yes
[05:51] <milestone> kbrooks: Could not open SDL display
[05:51] <dyrne> tucci: there are a number of ways to do it but.. basically if you look at the properties of the file or ls -l  youll see that it doesnt have a executable flag set. you can do this in the properties or chmod +x file.bin and then you can just execute it
[05:51] <kenro_> My DirectConnect client didn't come with a hublist. How do I add one?
[05:52] <cman325> Where do I get a list of those bot piped commands
[05:53] <Lee_Pepper> are there any Kernel devs available???
[05:53] <Vich> kenro_, have you tried reading the help?
[05:54] <tucci> dyrne: it is flagged as executable in properties
[05:54] <Vich> if it's terminal based, run with --help
[05:54] <kbrooks> people are impatient
[05:54] <Vich> there's plenty of hubs online
[05:54] <Vich> kbrooks, you said it
[05:54] <Vich> now who wants to argue with me about religion?
[05:55] <kbrooks> Vich, "it" = ?
[05:55] <cman325> lol
[05:55] <Alex288288> lol
[05:55] <dyrne> tucci: 'file filename.bin' this is what type of file?
[05:55] <cman325> I'm a pastafarion Vich
[05:55] <pakas> nubuntu?????????????????????????????????
[05:55] <kbrooks> Vich, do it over in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:55] <rambo3> tucci,  just open terminal , cd into directory chmod +x file.bin and type  ./file.bin
[05:55] <Vich> already one step ahead of you kbrooks
[05:55] <kbrooks> pakas, you haven't asked a question.
[05:55] <dyrne> Vich: everyone knows zorastrianism is the only tru religion
[05:56] <pakas> some onde use's nubuntu??
[05:56] <tucci> dyrne: it's listed as an executable file in properties
[05:56] <tucci> rambo: not sure what you mean
[05:56] <CarlFK> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/admin/chntpw  "change user passwords in a Windows NT/2000 userdatabase"
[05:57] <dyrne> tucci: i dunno i guess i might 'head filename.bin' to see what the first line is. maybe just bash filename.bin  what is the url you downloaded it from
[05:57] <Telarian02> Hello, having glx problems xorg is not loading glx and a quick look at the logs says (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libglx.so
[05:57] <Telarian02> dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libglx.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, my guess is that the load glx is pointing the file the two slashes //libglx.so can anyone help me delete that one slash libglx.so is present
[05:57] <ThePioneer> Can anyone tell me how to go about setting up svideo in Feisty
[05:57] <kenro_> Vich, Such a simple solution, huh?
[05:57] <tucci> dyrne: it's celtx, screenwriting software from celtx.com
[05:58] <mat1980> ThePioneer: in a terminal type sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:58] <ThePioneer> Thanks
[05:58] <CarlFK> ThePioneer: from what I have seen, it is very dependant on your cards binary drivers
[05:58] <Vich> sorry kenro_?
[05:58] <ThePioneer> I have a Gateway MX6956
[05:58] <ThePioneer> Not sure what video card
[05:58] <dyrne> tucci: yikes thats a farily big file one sec
[05:59] <CarlFK> ThePioneer: on my nvidia, I ended up useing TwinView to span the deaktop between a monitor and TV
[05:59] <kenro_> Vich,  Is dcqt a two-part app? You need a server in the background?
[05:59] <tucci> dyrne: no problem, brb
[05:59] <kenro_> Because I don't have a 'help' menu option.
[06:00] <ThePioneer> It didn't take --reconfigure
[06:00] <ThePioneer> sudo dpkg xserver-xorg
[06:00] <Almindor> is there a way to get quake3 engine for ubuntu as package, or atleast binaries?
[06:00] <Almindor> I can't compile the damn thing
[06:00] <Almindor> after succesfuly dos2unixing, I get errors with nasm :(
[06:01] <nickrud> ThePioneer, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:01] <mike3_> Almindor, They all come in binary formats.
[06:01] <Almindor> mike3_, what do you mean?
[06:01] <CarlFK> ThePioneer:  be sure to bother the manufacture about Linux drivers.  slim chance that it will help today (but you never know) but maybe in a few years ...
[06:01] <juandiegoms> bitch
[06:01] <Vich> well kenro_, I'm unfamiliar with dcqt
[06:02] <sacater> .1
[06:02] <Vich> I've used dc clients before, but not dcqt
[06:02] <danibedar> ola
[06:02] <judran23> hello can somebody tell me how to connect wirelessly my laptop with ubuntu 7.04 ????
[06:02] <sacater> sorry
[06:02] <Telarian02> load glx is pointing to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules//libglx.so" where do I edit glx to point to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so"?
[06:02] <danibedar> hello
[06:02] <ThePioneer> Ok. I'm in the configure screen how do I set it to send and recieve through the svideo
[06:02] <Milux> ciao
[06:02] <mike3_> Almindor, Well if you could get quake 3 in source you could potentially change the game.
[06:03] <eljak> judran23,  you have to install right driver and firmware, than use a tool like wlassistant
[06:03] <Almindor> mike3_, not the whole thing, the engine
[06:03] <Almindor> mike3_, and I did get it :) it's full of asm files too hehe
[06:03] <kenro_> Vich, Very good reason to be directconnecting my querries to dc devs, eh? :)
[06:03] <rambo3> !twinview | TheInfinity
[06:03] <ubotu> TheInfinity: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[06:03] <rambo3> ThePioneer,  read up
[06:03] <dyrne> tucci: id run it in a terminal. see if it is complaining about any .so files
[06:03] <judran23> wlassistant?
[06:03] <neol> i have a problem with my current version of xmms in ubuntu 7.04.... how do i install the latest verion of xmms ??? :)
[06:04] <judran23> my card is BCM43XX
[06:04] <mike3_> Almindor, tee he he.. :)
[06:04] <Vich> probably kenro_ ;p
[06:04] <ThePioneer> Any good reads?
[06:04] <tucci> dyrne: how do I do that?
[06:04] <dyrne> tucci: is the folder on your desktop?
[06:04] <Almindor> mike3_, problem is it blows in the middle of compilation with "CC1: handling warnings as errors" and 3 "warnings" :(
[06:04] <tucci> dyrne: yes
[06:04] <Almindor> mike3_, that thing is using old "cons" so I have no idea how to get along
[06:04] <eljak> judran23, you have to do a search on the net for what driver is suitable for your card like acx or ndiswrapper etc...
[06:04] <rambo3> ThePioneer, if you are configuring TV out . ubotu posted a link , if not never mind
[06:05] <neol> anyone who can help me out here :'(
[06:05] <patzlaff> hi I've one pentium duo 2 core and I've installed the ubuntu ia64
[06:05] <mat1980> ThePioneer: sorry for mispelled command. is your card an intel 950 right?
[06:05] <kenro_> Vich,  Not wishing to beat you over the head about it, but I asked how to contact dc devs... L)
[06:05] <jamil> hi everybody
[06:05] <patzlaff> my problem is... the flash player doesn't work
[06:05] <dyrne> tucci: open a terminal then type 'cd Desktop/celtx' then type ./celtx-bin   i think is the filename you need the ./ to say this directory or the full path /home/username/Desktop/celtx/celtx-bin
[06:06] <Vich> oh, I didn't realise it was a question
[06:06] <Vich> I'm not sure who the devs are
[06:06] <patzlaff> anyone have some suggestion ?
[06:06] <Vich> a quick googling revealed nothing :/
[06:06] <paquito> yo no hablo ingles
[06:06] <neol> okay i repeat again < i have a problem with my current version of xmms in ubuntu 7.04.... how do i install the latest verion of xmms ??? > :)
[06:06] <ThePioneer> I do believe so
[06:06] <nny> does anyone know where network-manager stores WPA keys once you have entered them.. i switched mine but it is still trying to use the old one
[06:06] <kenro_> Vich,  And I appologize for that smartass. I'd asked for devs long before you responded.
[06:06] <rambo3> !backports | NeoGeo64
[06:07] <ubotu> NeoGeo64: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[06:07] <dyrne> tucci: ubuntu will try to run stuff from the shared bin/ directories (your app isnt in any of the bin/ dirs) unless you tell it where the file is you want to run
[06:07] <ThePioneer> I want video out from the sivdeo to tv
[06:07] <Lundn> what editor do u guys use ? emacs vim or a third
[06:07] <rambo3> !backports | neol
[06:07] <ubotu> neol: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[06:07] <Telarian02> in xorg.conf in section "module"  I have load "glx" in xorg logs glx is pointing to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules//libglx.so" anyone know where I can edit glx to point to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so"?
[06:07] <rambo3> ThePioneer, then i posted you right link
[06:07] <patzlaff> join #ubuntu-br
[06:07] <Vich> kenro_ does man dcqt return anything?
[06:08] <rambo3> !twinview | ThePioneer
[06:08] <ubotu> ThePioneer: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[06:08] <dyrne> tucci: lunchtime. see if someone else can help if you get an error
[06:08] <ThePioneer> twinview?
[06:08] <paquito> eres espaol
[06:09] <paquito> rodrigo de fuente
[06:09] <Don64> !es
[06:09] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:09] <Vich> kenro_, are you sure it's dcqt and not dctc?
[06:10] <nny> does anyone know where network-manager stores WPA keys once you have entered them.. i switched mine but it is still trying to use the old one
[06:10] <kenro_> Vich, Neither, plain or -, return. There are neither manpages nor info/help mods for DC client.
[06:10] <alecw1> I'm having problems with my Emerald theme manager. I recently switched to Compiz-fusion, and whenever I type: "emerald --replace &" I get this error multiple times in the Terminal: (emerald:7380): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)"
[06:10] <alecw1> Is there a fix?
[06:10] <alecw1> Emerald still runs, but when I close the terminal, it reverts back to Metacity.
[06:11] <paquito> #kUNBUTO
[06:11] <Vich> kenro_, just make it clear for me -> what is the name of the client?
[06:12] <kenro_> Vich,  client is dc-qt
[06:12] <rambo3> alecw1, wonder if this would work : bash -c 'emerald --replace &'
[06:13] <Vich> ok
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Does Ubuntu keep copies of the updates so I dont need to re-download them
[06:13] <Vich> http://dc-qt.sourceforge.net/
[06:13] <alecw1> Let me try Rambo.
[06:13] <alecw1> No, that did not rambo3.
[06:14] <alecw1> The command didn't do anything. :P
[06:14] <rambo3> alecw1, try without ' '
[06:14] <jetscreamer> if you don't clear the cache yes the packages are still there
[06:14] <alecw1> ok
[06:14] <kenro_> Vich,  ... uh... yeah. When in doubt, or all else fails, check SourceForge. Sorry.
[06:14] <Vich> lol
[06:14] <jude> hey i try to load to beryl n this is what i got  Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[06:14] <Vich> actually, just google it
[06:14] <Vich> first result ;/
[06:14] <nisse186> hey
[06:14] <Vich> .g google
[06:14] <jude> can any one tell me what to do?
[06:14] <alecw1> Ok, that worked, but I got the same error.
[06:14] <Vich> darn, no google bot
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> jetscreamer:  what folder, and can I burn them to a cd and reuse them?
[06:14] <kenro_> Okee
[06:15] <judran23> eljak
[06:15] <eljak> oui?
[06:16] <Don64> !fr
[06:16] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:16] <judran23> the card it seems to be installed but the only problem is it doesnt connect
[06:16] <Vich> ah c'est bon!
[06:16] <Vich> je deteste anglais
[06:16] <jetscreamer> Jack_Sparrow: /var/cache/apt/archives and yes sure, burn away
[06:16] <Vich> au revoir
[06:17] <jetscreamer> Jack_Sparrow: remember they may be outdated sometime soon
[06:17] <eljak> try to use wlassistant if you dont have it install it
[06:17] <rambo3> alecw1, i don't know , i  know only about berylmanager --replace . if no one answers try #ubuntu-effects
[06:18] <alecw1> ok, thanks rambo. :)
[06:18] <kenro_> Vich,  Why you hate englais?
[06:18] <Jack_Sparrow> jetscreamer:  thanks, I just want to get some of the updates without an hour plus download
[06:19] <Vich> kenro_, it's so ambiguous and confusing
[06:19] <Jack_Sparrow> jetscreamer: I had it just about how I wanted it and then tried to install ati drivers and hosed it up.
[06:19] <Vich> so many ways to say the same thing
[06:19] <Vich> and it's probably the most butchered of all languages
[06:19] <tucci> I've got a binary file for a program that's not in any repository (AFAIK), I can't get it to run
[06:20] <kravlin> about how much swap space should Ubuntu have?
[06:20] <rambo3> tucci, what file what program
[06:20] <cybybuddy> test
[06:20] <Jack_Sparrow> jetscreamer: How do I get the updtaer to look at the archives and not download a new copy or if I put them into that folder it will see them and use them instead
[06:20] <rambo3> kravlin, depends
[06:20] <kravlin> rambo3: on?
[06:20] <kenro_> Vich, That last I'll give you, but it's mine. Tho ah don subscrob t'the idea that it's mah gawdgiven right t' butcher it.
[06:21] <cybybuddy> anyone here knows CCE?
[06:21] <krupa^> hey.. i tried to install ubuntu on my AMD 64 Athlon pc.. and its not loading (black screen after installation etc)... what release i should download?
[06:21] <rambo3> kravlin ok 512 MB swap
[06:21] <tucci> rambo3: it's celtx (celtx.com), screenwriting software. Trying to run it in the terminal gives this: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:21] <cybybuddy> Notebook CCE NCV-C5H6 Intel Celeron M410 1,64 com 512MB de RAM e 60GB de HD << I wanna know if its a good machine
[06:21] <Vich> har haugh verry funi kenro_
[06:21] <rambo3> !find libmozjs
[06:21] <ubotu> Found: libmozjs-dev, libmozjs0d, libmozjs0d-dbg
[06:21] <koen_> hi, what does a green marking colour mean in a "ls" output
[06:21] <andreasdohl> heres the thing: using a bthomehub, cant connect to internet via ethernet or wlan... getting an ipadress SOMETIMES, can ping to router sometimes, sometimes i get "operation not permitted"
[06:21] <kravlin> rambo3: is that a minimum? I have around 111.12 GB to give it.
[06:21] <andreasdohl> cannot access internet or webconfig on router at all
[06:22] <rambo3> tucci, you need libmozjs-dev installed
[06:22] <kravlin> rambo3: For the entire install.
[06:22] <ubuntu_> I'm trying to partition my HD using a 7.04 Live CD. I keep trying to unmount the partitions but they keep getting remounted. I can partition until they stay unmounted. How can I stop this from happening>
[06:22] <ubuntu_> ?*
[06:22] <rambo3> kravlin, swap is just temporery unloading place like virtual memory
[06:22] <kenro_> Vich,  I'll admit, though, some cound rightfully argue that I speak Alabaman, not English. ;)
[06:22] <tucci> rambo3: how do i do that? "apt get libmozjs.dev"?
[06:22] <koen_> ubuntu_ use the gparted live cd
[06:22] <bthoem> Anyone know of any issues with Promise TX4 SATA controller? Installed Ubuntu this weekend and ran into serious problems with my NTFS partitions on this controller.
[06:22] <rambo3> tucci, yeah use synaptic
[06:22] <krupa^> is it better to download Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - Supported to 2009 ? or Ubuntu 7.04 - Supported to 2008 - for AMD 64 athlon?
[06:23] <jetscreamer> Jack_Sparrow: i usually just cp them back to that dir, but there is a way to use the cd as a flat file repo... i forget how, never needed to.
[06:23] <leitao> Hi People. My evolution, which comes with feisty, is closing after I send an e-mail. Do anyone know any issue like this one?
[06:23] <ubuntu_> koen_: I've tried that but I run into issues with it not seeing my HD b/c of the drivers required
[06:23] <andreasdohl> tucci: sudo apt-get install libmozjs
[06:23] <bthoem> Also - did not find a driver to support my Canon Pixma IP8500 printer. Any advice on "compatible" drivers I can use?
[06:23] <koen_> ubuntu_ this is a bug in gparted which is fixed in version 0.3.x Feisty comes with 0.2.5 Its a pitty that they don't update the iso to 0.3.x
[06:24] <koen_> have you tried the official gparted 0.3.7 live cd?
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> jetscreamer: I remember something about how to add it to the repo list..
[06:24] <ubuntu_> koen_: I'll try dloading it now... fyi i'm using a sata drive on a tablet
[06:24] <andreasdohl> bthoem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38995
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> jetscreamer: But if it is in that folder it will pull from there first?
[06:24] <bthoem> I have a ATI FireGL V7100 graphics card. Ubuntu did not recognize it. Are there drivers for it?
[06:24] <tucci> rambo3: got an error message there was a problem downloading the packagae or the commit would break packagaes
[06:24] <krupa^> anyone?
[06:25] <andreasdohl> bthoem: should be official ATI drivers out there? check ubuntuguide.org
[06:25] <koen_> ubuntu_ it here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=173828
[06:25] <koen_> ubuntu_ try 0.3.4-7
[06:26] <ubuntu_> koen_: already dloading :)
[06:26] <krupa^> is it better to download Ubuntu 6.06 LTS - Supported to 2009 ? or Ubuntu 7.04 - Supported to 2008 - for AMD 64 athlon?
[06:26] <Fedman> can someone recommend me a good docker for gnome? like kxdocker for kde
[06:26] <bthoem> andreasdohl: Thank you for the print driver tips. I'll try that!
[06:26] <koen_> ubuntu_ kay. i leave now. good luck bye
[06:26] <defrysk> Fedman, alltray
[06:26] <ubuntu_> yup
[06:26] <ubuntu_> ttyl
[06:27] <jetscreamer> Jack_Sparrow: if you cp them back, they will be used and not redownloaded unless there is a new version available
[06:27] <Fedman> defrysk: thx I have it already but i didn't ment an app for sending programs to the notification area. Rather something like the osx dock
[06:28] <naruse> hi
[06:28] <naruse> can anyone tell me please when i connect a non conventional usb device, where it does plug in /dev
[06:29] <naruse> or how could i know?
[06:29] <kravlin> rambo3: I'm manually partitioning before a new install. If i have the / partition in ext3 and 2 gigs of swap space (a web site said twice my RAM) do i need anything else? I cant think of anything.
[06:29] <GigaClon> I get this when I insert a Disc into my DVD drive. Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'NEW'.
[06:29] <GigaClon> however I can mount it fine manually
[06:29] <rambo3> kravlin, that should be enough .
[06:29] <kravlin> ok.
[06:30] <naruse> any help pls?
[06:31] <Aviel> hey all
[06:31] <Aviel> i need help on ubuntu plz
[06:31] <Aviel> now installed it
[06:31] <Aviel> and dont know
[06:31] <Aviel> some 1 can help?
[06:31] <Steck> Ask your question.. someone might be able to answer.
[06:31] <Aviel> ok ok
[06:31] <Aviel> i dont know what to do now
[06:32] <Aviel> ubuntu run good
[06:32] <Aviel> but did i need install firewall?
[06:32] <doc|work> I'm following http://flurdy.com/docs/eclipse/install.html and wondering is java 1.5 the most recent release of java I can use?
[06:32] <Aviel> or how i can instal ssh
[06:32] <Aviel> or ftpd
[06:32] <Aviel> proftpd
[06:32] <Aviel> its write error idk what to do
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Aviel: No need for firewall, iptables handles it nicely.
[06:32] <tucci> I need to install libmozjs, but Adept says it can't download the package or the commit would break packages. Anyone have any idea?
[06:32] <Aviel> so how i can install ftp?
[06:32] <Aviel> and ssh
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Aviel: If you want a firewall manager check out firestarter or guarddgog
[06:33] <Aviel> and software
[06:33] <Steck> Aviel: You can install 'Firestarter' in the Add/Remove list, but I do not use a firewall personally
[06:33] <Aviel> how i can install software?
[06:33] <Aviel> like media player
[06:33] <Aviel> that i can hear music
[06:33] <Aviel> and movie
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Aviel: synaptic
[06:33] <Vich> lol
[06:33] <Steck> Click on Applications in the upper left, then go to Add/Remove
[06:33] <Steck> Browse the list Aviel
[06:33] <Aviel> sec its in hebrew
[06:34] <Aviel> can u talk sample eng?
[06:34] <Vich> you mean simple english?
[06:34] <Aviel> yes
[06:34] <Vich> Aviel, to play many audio and video formats you should try automatix
[06:34] <Vich> www.getautomatix.com
[06:34] <Aviel> ok ok
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> bad
[06:34] <Aviel> sec
[06:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[06:34] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:34] <Aviel> and how i can install software?
[06:35] <kazol> How do I change the current gui to a terminal? Is it Ctrl+F{n}?
[06:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Aviel: Please avoid automatix
[06:35] <Aviel> in control
[06:35] <Aviel> alt + f2?
[06:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Vich: That script is garbage
[06:35] <Aviel> gnome-control-center?
[06:35] <Vich> lol
[06:35] <Vich> wow
[06:35] <kazol> Vich: Isn't vlc the best for playing all formats?
[06:35] <Vich> I didn't realise you folk were against it
[06:36] <Vich> as a player, yes
[06:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Top of the list
[06:36] <Vich> but you need the codecs
[06:36] <kane77> kazol, the only format it doesnt play is .xls ;)
[06:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !w32codecs
[06:36] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[06:36] <bthoem> Found these ATI videodrivers for my Intellistation on IBMs website - they are for 32-bits Red Hat. (http://www-304.ibm.com/jct01004c/systems/support/supportsite.wss/docdisplay?brandind=5000008&lndocid=MIGR-61481)Should work fine with Ubuntu?
[06:36] <Vich> Jack_Sparrow, I know many beginners that would have gave up on ubuntu if not for automatix
[06:37] <rambo3> bthoem, no
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Vich: NOt something recommended here.. This channel shows people how to do it right..
[06:37] <naruse> how do i know where does  a non conventional usb device is linked in /dev?
[06:37] <Vich> gotcha Jack_Sparrow
[06:37] <doc|work> anyone?
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:37] <Vich> duly noted
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Not trying to war..
[06:37] <Vich> I realise that
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> adding codecs is easy
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !mp3
[06:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !dvd
[06:38] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:38] <Vich> yeah
[06:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Love that bot
[06:38] <tucci> I need to install libmozjs, but Adept says it can't download the package or the commit would break packages. Anyone have any idea?
[06:38] <Vich> !love
[06:38] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[06:39] <Jack_Sparrow> jetscreamer: Thanks... forgot to tell you that just saved me and Ubuntu an hour of bandwidth
[06:39] <doc|work> I'm following http://flurdy.com/docs/eclipse/install.html and wondering is java 1.5 the most recent release of java I can use?
[06:39] <jetscreamer> np
[06:39] <tek-ops> I'm curious, it debian's FAI or redhat's Kickstart the preferred method for network-based autoinstall by the Ubuntu project?
[06:40] <pupeno_> I am having trouble geting an IP from a DHCP server... most of the times it doesn't work, some times it works. I've tried disabling avahi, but eth0:avahi is still created. Does anybody know about this?
[06:40] <cpare> Hello alll
[06:40] <Aviel15> hey its me again
[06:40] <Aviel15> how i can install ftp?
[06:40] <Aviel15> or ssh
[06:40] <cpare> anyone familiar with OpenLDAP?
[06:40] <doc|work> Aviel15: apt-get install ssh vsftpd
[06:40] <Aviel15> on new ubuntu
[06:40] <doc|work> possibly sshd
[06:40] <Aviel15> press alt+f2?
[06:40] <pupeno_> Aviel15: the ssh client is already installed and you have various ftp clients as well (nautilus for example).
[06:41] <Aviel15> sec
[06:41] <Aviel15> press alt+f2
[06:41] <Aviel15> and apt-get?
[06:41] <genii> tek-ops I prefer the FAI method since you can refer back to the Debian docs etc
[06:41] <Aviel15> apt-get install
[06:41] <bthoem> rambo3, saw your comment on my question regd the IBM-drivers for my ATI FireGL 7100 graphics card. You say I should not try these?
[06:41] <spiderfire> how do you configure kde like the gtk themes?
[06:41] <doc|work> Aviel15: you should be able to use a terminal to do it, rather than going to the console
[06:42] <tek-ops> genii does FAI support selective "disk_config" based on the append arguement of your pxelinux.cfg file?
[06:42] <asmarin> hi
[06:42] <spiderfire> i mean what do you have to install to configure kde
[06:42] <tek-ops> or any other way for that matter?
[06:42] <pupeno_> Aviel15: use synaptic or adept instead of aptitude (or apt-get).
[06:42] <asmarin> where i can find virt-manager for ubuntu?
[06:42] <spiderfire> cause kde is ugly
[06:42] <asmarin> virt-manager arent on ubuntu repositories
[06:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Aviel15:  Also please check out SYnaptic package manager under system... admin...
[06:42] <variant> !beryl
[06:42] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:42] <genii> tek-ops If you mean how to partition etc, that is inside a preseed file. There are "recipes" yoiu can use for that etc
[06:43] <asmarin> !xen
[06:43] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[06:43] <asmarin> !virt-manager
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virt-manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <ReServe2> How do I use spesific DNS adresses for a DNS server?
[06:43] <asmarin> fuck
[06:43] <rambo3> bthoem, why do you need those drivers first of all . RH drivers would be for xfree86 there .
[06:43] <tek-ops> genii yes partitions, I'll look into that, do you know off hand where the preseed file is by default?
[06:44] <genii> tek-ops I'm not sure one exists by default. I found a prototype to work from off the help page for network installs
[06:44] <tek-ops> ok great, thanks genii
[06:44] <genii> tek-ops np
[06:44] <chadeldridge> Does anyone know of a program that will autorotate my screen when i rotate my monitor ?
[06:44] <bthoem> rambo3, Ubuntu 7.04 did not recognize my card and I'd like to take advantage of at least a higher resolution. Are you suggesting there are other drivers?
[06:44] <colbert> How do I find where a program has been installed to? ie., which directory
[06:45] <ibanex> chadeldridge: how would it know you rotated your monitor?
[06:45] <chadeldridge> colbert:  you could always do a locate for the name but you need to run sudo updatedb first
[06:45] <pupeno_> colbert: dpkg -L package-name
[06:45] <pupeno_> colbert: most likely /usr/bin/
[06:45] <chadeldridge> ibanex:  the dell24 inch has a built in sensor for its oriantation
[06:46] <rambo3> bthoem, so if you switch to ati driver it would not start ?
[06:46] <chadeldridge> colbert:  you will prob find it in /usr/bin though
[06:46] <koen_> hi what does a green marking mean in a "ls" output
[06:46] <pupeno_> koen_: binary (executable).
[06:46] <ibanex> chadeldridge: didn't even know that existed, no idea then sorry
[06:47] <chadeldridge> ha .. np ... i dont really even care if it does it automatically if i had something to click that said rotate display 90 deg
[06:47] <lllllll> Quick question: what's the best bittorrent client for ubuntu/linux? Ideally I'd use uTorrent but I'm not going to sort Wine out just for that.
[06:47] <genii> koen_ If you do ls -l   and look at the colours compared to the bits set for the file you can sort it out
[06:47] <koen_> pupeno_ impossible. it are dirs...
[06:47] <calc_> koen_: then execute bit is set on it?
[06:47] <bthoem> rambo3, I installed a driver package yesterday claiming to support this card through automatix2 - Envy? However, nothing happened after restart. So I am looking for drivers that enable the features of my card.
[06:47] <calc_> koen_: hmm actually that doesn't matter, hmm
[06:47] <chadeldridge> !automatix
[06:47] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:47] <chadeldridge> ^^
[06:47] <genii> koen_ Directories can also have their executable bit set which means ls lists them as binaries
[06:48] <calc_> genii: but it doesn't
[06:48] <pupeno_> koen_: not sure then. The last time I saw that it was a broken filesystem and we had to re-install.
[06:48] <calc_> genii: i thought it would logically but it doesn't since dirs need x anyway
[06:48] <tucci> In Adept Manager, j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin is listed as broken. Would it be good for me to remove it and reinstall?
[06:48] <ibanex> lllllll: i like ktorrent
[06:48] <rambo3> bthoem, in terminal type : fglrxinfo
[06:48] <genii> calc_ Interesting
[06:48] <koen_> it gives this as output drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2007-06-25 18:05 Documents
[06:48] <ibanex> lllllll: there are a ton for linux, no need for wine
[06:48] <jetscreamer> you might have java 6
[06:49] <jetscreamer> or 5
[06:49] <genii> koen_ so d means dir, the w is writeable, x is executable and r is readable
[06:49] <diego_> si
[06:49] <lllllll> ibanex: I know, too many for me to choose from... I'm just looking for one with a good set of features that's stable
[06:49] <calc_> why is the dir 0 size though?
[06:49] <diego_> toto mamonesss
[06:49] <calc_> shouldn't it be at least size of one block?
[06:49] <genii> symlink?
[06:50] <bthoem> rambo3, Will try fglrxinfo when I am on my Ubuntu machine later this evening. Will you be on this channel for a while?
[06:50] <Aviel15> yay
[06:50] <maxagaz> what it the best tool to rip a dvd ?
[06:50] <Aviel15> ssh work thx man
[06:50] <Aviel15> and ftp the same?
[06:50] <Aviel15> apt-get install proftpd?
[06:50] <dyrne> maxagaz: cat
[06:50] <genii> calc Yes, it should be the default size for some empty dir
[06:50] <rambo3> bthoem, no i don't think so , but there are always people here just ask for fglrx help or search ubuntuforums.org for firegl
[06:51] <Aviel15> install ftp like thas guys?
[06:51] <calc> genii: his is size 0 though
[06:51] <ibanex> lllllll: 'sudo apt-get install ktorrent' see what you think, it can watch directories and it has a built in torrent search browser which is cool
[06:51] <Aviel15> apt-get install proftpd?
[06:51] <genii> like 4096
[06:51] <maxagaz> dyrne: seriously...
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> maxagaz: acidrip... k9copy
[06:51] <calc> genii: actually his ls output is probably not from a linux fs
[06:51] <lllllll> cheers, I'll have a go
[06:51] <calc> genii: maybe fat32/ntfs?
[06:51] <maxagaz> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[06:51] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:51] <calc> koen_: what fs is that from?
[06:51] <dyrne> maxagaz: i was jk'ing but cat or dd to make an iso dvdrip i guess is a popular one for converting to another format or whatever
[06:52] <koen_> genii i know that :P But it says they are created as root isnt it? It's strange because i just created it as a normal user from nautilus. It might have to deal with ntfs-3g
[06:52] <genii> calc I'm pretty sure fat ls shows sizes. If ntfs more likely it can't find the size then
[06:52] <calc> genii: ah ok
[06:52] <genii> koen_ Ah, ntfs then
[06:52] <koen_> ill test moment
[06:52] <calc> all bets are off for ntfs, its a weird beast ;)
[06:53] <Jack_Sparrow> maxagaz: If you have used DVD Shrink on MS then K9 should suit you
[06:53] <CarlFK> http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/otherosfs/ntfs-3g
[06:53] <mezziah> whats the command for uninstalling a program which i installed with "make install"?
[06:53] <xeno_> I'm still trying to figure out the wireless problem with my Satellite A55.
[06:53] <genii> mezziah make clean
[06:53] <surviver> xeno_, iwconfig helps?
[06:53] <koen_> yeah you are right
[06:53] <xeno_> I've tried both the native NIC, and an inserted PCMCIA card.
[06:53] <mezziah> genii: ty
[06:54] <nilesh> hi all - which EXTERNAL sound cards (5.1 channel) are best supported under Linux?
[06:54] <xeno_> Just a minute I'll play with iwconfig.
[06:54] <genii> mezziah np
[06:54] <koen_> genii it has to deal with ntfs-3g. thanks for the help
[06:54] <genii> koen_ good luck with it
[06:54] <zeldafan500clone> whats an ubuntu
[06:54] <zeldafan500clone> o.o
[06:54] <surviver> lol
[06:54] <zeldafan500clone> wtf happened to my name
[06:54] <faemir> does anyone know a bulk file renamer that can rename images (.bmps) that are all within subfolders within subfolders?
[06:55] <mezziah> genii: hmm didn't work..
[06:55] <rambo3> nilesh, i am going by basic rule of open source and saying anything with Intel
[06:55] <surviver> faemir, mv?
[06:55] <ibanex> nilesh: you can check if they are supported by ALSA http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
[06:55] <faemir> surviver: how would i go abotu doing that then?
[06:56] <genii> mezziah There is also: make uninstall     and make dist or make dist-clean
[06:56] <surviver> faemir, (firstname) (thenewname)
[06:56] <ReServe2> How do I use spesific DNS adresses and use them every time I boot?
[06:56] <genii> dis/dist-clean will wipe any remnants it made before
[06:56] <faemir> surviver: but i need to do loads of files
[06:56] <faemir> preferrably all at once
[06:56] <rambo3> ReServe2, like host 127.0.0.1 myserver.com ?
[06:56] <mezziah> genii: not one of the commands you mentioned works.. it says it has no rule to create uninstall, dist, dist-clean
[06:57] <surviver> faemir, well then i dont know :s maybe sonthing with -a? try mv --help
[06:57] <faemir> the folder structure is: music > xband > xalbum > picture.bmp
[06:57] <faemir> ok
[06:57] <faemir> thanks anyway
[06:57] <surviver> y
[06:57] <surviver> w
[06:57] <xeno_> First line of output I've got from iwconfig:  unassociated  ESSID:""
[06:57] <genii> mezzziah Badly written Makefile then. Did it actually do the "make" before?
[06:57] <mezziah> genii: yes
[06:58] <egoleo> anyone using feisty on acer 5570?
[06:58] <zeldafan500|wtf> damnit my internet went right after i asked 'srsly wtf is an ubuntu'
[06:58] <zeldafan500|wtf> srsly, wtf is an ubuntu?
[06:58] <egoleo> how do i get my acer webcam to work on ubuntu feisty?
[06:58] <Aviel15> guys
[06:58] <Aviel15> how i can install ftp
[06:58] <mezziah> zeldafan500|wtf: it's an african word
[06:58] <Aviel15> ftp server
[06:59] <Aviel15> apt-get install vsftp?
[06:59] <Aviel15> or vsftpd
[06:59] <doc|work> Aviel15: possibly the latter
[06:59] <Aviel15> what?
[06:59] <Aviel15> vsftp?
[06:59] <lockdown> Aviel15, http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/faq
[07:00] <genii> mezzziah If the makefile did not provide for the options make clean make dist  etc etc then worst case you can look at the makefile and see where it put the files it made
[07:00] <Aviel15> 
[07:00] <Aviel15> 
[07:00] <mezziah> genii: ok, thanks
[07:00] <Aviel15>      ?
[07:00] <zeldafan500> lol, africa
[07:00] <Aviel15> what?
[07:00] <zeldafan500> africa stinks
[07:00] <genii> Well, must return to work :)
[07:00] <zeldafan500> lol someone sayd ubuntu was an african word
[07:01] <rbs-tito> It is
[07:01] <zeldafan500> africa must stink if ubuntu is named after it
[07:01] <rambo3> haha
[07:01] <Picii> !coc
[07:01] <zeldafan500> windows ftw
[07:01] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[07:01] <Aviel15> how i can install ftp??
[07:01] <Aviel15> apt-get install vsftp??
[07:01] <zeldafan500> oh, youve got a code of conduct, lol
[07:02] <zeldafan500> Windows Vista FTW.
[07:02] <dyrne> Aviel15: whate are you wanting to do? ftp takes a little effort to secure and you might just need ssh
[07:02] <Aviel15> i got ssh
[07:02] <Aviel15> ssh serv
[07:02] <zeldafan500> i got windows.
[07:02] <misty> I'm looking into Ubuntu LTS.  I see that it is already one version behind the latest Ubuntu release, and I wonder if that is going to limit me in versions of packages, the kernel, etc
[07:02] <Aviel15> i just want to learn ubuntu
[07:02] <zeldafan500> and its better than ubuntu.
[07:02] <Aviel15> cuz i going to buy server
[07:02] <rbs-tito> zeldafan500: We aren't all anti-windows fanatics. This is a support channel, please stop spamming.
[07:02] <zeldafan500> because its windows.
[07:02] <mezziah> zeldafan500: what youre doing here when youre a windows fanboy?
[07:02] <Aviel15> and i want to know all
[07:02] <dyrne> Aviel15: you can use sftp and winscp under windows to access it. no need for ftp
[07:02] <defrysk> Aviel15, maybe you like this http://fireftp.mozdev.org/
[07:02] <zeldafan500> im saying windows pwnz.
[07:02] <misty> I'm coming from SuSE, which stops releasing new major kernel versions after a year or so
[07:02] <dyrne> Aviel15: but sudo apt-get install vsftpd  will install it and start the ftp daemon
[07:03] <Aviel15> i wanna install proftpd
[07:03] <Aviel15> how i can do it?
[07:03] <rbs-tito> zeldafan500: join ##windows
[07:03] <supremesonic> zeldafan500, the only reason is you think windows is better than any *nix system is because you are too stupid to learn or look
[07:03] <Aviel15> kk i try vsftpd
[07:03] <CheshireViking> !offtopic | zeldafan500
[07:03] <ubotu> zeldafan500: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:03] <egoleo> how do i get acer webcam to work
[07:03] <Aviel15> good
[07:03] <calc> misty: LTS is good for just working desktop in a company, if you want the latest run 7.04 though
[07:03] <dyrne> Aviel15: i would recommend using ssh though
[07:03] <Aviel15> ftp online
[07:03] <hylje> misty: releases get just security and other minor updates, for features a new release is needed
[07:03] <Aviel15> ssh online
[07:03] <Aviel15> :)
[07:04] <Aviel15> i got 2 pc
[07:04] <n0000b> hi... need help installing a printer.. brother dcp 110c
[07:04] <egoleo> and also how to install webmin
[07:04] <Aviel15> so i try it on my network
[07:04] <Aviel15> webmin online
[07:04] <Aviel15> :)
[07:04] <zeldafan500> dell is better
[07:04] <misty> hylje: What things will I miss by running LTS?
[07:04] <dyrne> Aviel15: try using winscp first if youre wanting to connect a win machine to ubuntu server
[07:04] <misty> how often will LTS get major releases?
[07:04] <hylje> misty: shiny new features
[07:04] <ticnailer69> what up guys and gals
[07:04] <ticnailer69> well not gals but....
[07:04] <ibanex> n0000b: have you tried cups? in a browser go to: http://localhost:631
[07:04] <calc> misty: i think every 2 years
[07:04] <calc> misty: eg every 4 releases
[07:05] <misty> not gals? do you actually think that no women run linux?
[07:05] <jitendra> i got to install 6 cctv. can anyone help?
[07:05] <misty> calc: thanks
[07:05] <rbs-tito> !ops | zeldafan500
[07:05] <ubotu> zeldafan500: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[07:05] <Aviel15> hey guys
[07:05] <nixternal> hrmm
[07:05] <misty> How long are the non-LTS releases supported?
[07:05] <nixternal> rbs-tito: what's up?
[07:05] <calc> misty: 1.5 years (i think)
[07:05] <PriceChild> misty, 18 months
[07:05] <zeldafan500> i know how to access a secret channel with ubuntu stuff, it really helps. type /join 0 (not #0 just 0)
[07:05] <Aviel15> its write me thas FTP server is anonymous only how i can fix it??
[07:05] <Ceiling_Cat> Ok, quick question. I have a machine with dapper installed. I want to update it to the newest version, along with all the packages
[07:05] <Aviel15> its write me thas FTP server is anonymous only how i can fix it??
[07:05] <Ceiling_Cat> how do I do this from the comamnd line?
[07:05] <misty> then they can be upgraded with apt-get?
[07:05] <rbs-tito> nixternal: zeldafan500 is up ;)
[07:05] <misty> to the new version?
[07:05] <Aviel15> thx for all help[
[07:05] <nixternal> hahahaha
[07:05] <Ceiling_Cat> sudo apt-get  what?
[07:05] <Aviel15> its write me thas FTP server is anonymous only how i can fix it??
[07:06] <nixternal> Amaranth: pwnd!
[07:06] <dyrne> Aviel15: gksu gedit /etc/vsftpd.conf
[07:06] <calc> misty: yea
[07:06] <Aviel15> k thx bro
[07:06] <nixternal> right as I was asking about him, and scrolled up, he went silly there
[07:06] <misty> How pain-free are those major upgrades?
[07:06] <Picii> Amaranth : fyi; zeldafan500clone <<
[07:06] <misty> I know with suse you end up just doing a clean install and restoring from backup
[07:06] <Ceiling_Cat> misty - to Feisty
[07:06] <calc> misty: no need to clean install debian based distros
[07:06] <ticnailer69> I'm trying to set up an ftp server by installing proftpd but when I try to run it, it says: no address assosiated with no host name.........how could I give my server a host name?
[07:06] <dyrne> Aviel15: after you make changes do sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart    it needs to startup with the new config file
[07:06] <Ceiling_Cat> I want to upgrade from Dapper to Feisty. THere's an apt-get upgrade-type command that does that
[07:06] <Ceiling_Cat> I cannot remmeber what that command is
[07:06] <misty> great news, maybe I will reconsider and run the latest then.  Is it appropriate for a server?
[07:07] <Amaranth> Picii: he can't talk
[07:07] <jimcooncat> misty, we haven't had an upgrade from one LTS to another LTS yet
[07:07] <calc> misty: there is a server variant as well, when you go to download the iso there is one for server too
[07:07] <Picii> Amaranth : ah. Okay.
[07:07] <calc> jimcooncat: hmm yea LTS to LTS upgrade will be... interesting
[07:07] <misty> I couldn't find what the difference was, calc
[07:07] <misty> between desktop and server
[07:07] <calc> misty: it installs a different set of packages
[07:07] <misty> maybe it doesn't install a gui?
[07:07] <misty> ahh
[07:07] <jitendra> guys, i wanna install 6 CCTVs. want to use ubuntu system. can anyone tell which software would work for me
[07:07] <jimcooncat> calc: I'll be doing a clean install when that time comes
[07:07] <misty> I'll go look at the website some more
[07:07] <calc> misty: or is supposed to from what i have read, i have never installed server myself
[07:08] <misty> calc: but no matter what, you can always install any package, right?
[07:08] <misty> it's just the defaults that are different?
[07:08] <calc> misty: yes
[07:08] <jimcooncat> misty, no gui on server
[07:08] <misty> great, thanks all for the help :)
[07:08] <ZeZu> i'm using feisty via vnc, it works but the keyboard is bad, i see no option in tightvnc viewer, anyone know how i can fix this /
[07:08] <calc> misty: the server version just installs different packages by default
[07:08] <jimcooncat> misty, you can add one if you want once you install -- of course people will advise you not to
[07:08] <macarenadv> ola
[07:09] <misty> I don't typically run a gui on my servers, but it might be nice for getting started with a new dist
[07:09] <stratos> hi all
[07:09] <misty> ZeZu: what do you mean 'keyboard is bad'?
[07:09] <caravel> hi all
[07:09] <misty> You can adjust what gets refreshed on the screen, the bandwidth, etc
[07:09] <ZeZu> asdf in console returns abfh
[07:09] <misty> oh it probably has to do with the keymap on the server you're connecting to
[07:09] <misty> I've never tried it with a different keymap or lang setting
[07:09] <stratos> guys i need help to able my 3D acceleration ... i have an ati x1300 ... i followed different hows to but no one works
[07:10] <Aviel15> how i can restart vsftpd cuz i change something on vsftpd.conf?
[07:10] <ZeZu> well they are both US keyboards afaik
[07:10] <Aviel15> how i can restart vsftpd cuz i change something on vsftpd.conf?
[07:10] <ibanex> Aviel15: sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart
[07:10] <ReServe2> rambo3; No, I have BIND9 on that server I want to use hard coded DNS adresses. Just want it to relay DNS request that BIND9 does not hold.
[07:11] <ReServe2> rambo3; sorry for not answering right away
[07:11] <phealy> So, a quick question for everyone. I have an already existing partition that only contains /home. Is there a way to install ubuntu onto that partition w/o formatting it? the livecd installer says it has to be formatted first; will the alternate installer let me install there?
[07:12] <phealy> googling didn't seem to give much
[07:13] <pixelation> Is it just me, or is the 32 bit version of Xubuntu much much slower than the 64 bit on a amd64 processor?
[07:13] <Takesinn> What apps in ubuntu can use MTP (M$'s Media Transfer Protocol)
[07:13] <ibanex> phealy: I believe you would have to resize that partition if you did want to save the data.  what is your goal?
[07:14] <yellabs2> how can i disable keys of the keyboard , in my case numlock?
[07:14] <rambo3> ReServe2, i don't know  . i would sugest checking out this page :  http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/206
[07:14] <Lee_Pepper> can any one help me with some questions on building a custom distro..
[07:14] <yellabs2> where is the keyboard layout config ? on ubut
[07:14] <phealy> I've got one partition on my laptop's hd, it already has /home which I copied over while mucking with partitions. since the partition is freshly created and only has /home, I'd think I would be able to reinstall onto it somewhat easily
[07:15] <bthoem> Any client in/ for Ubuntu supporting direct connection to WinXP remote desktop?
[07:15] <yellabs2> ubuntu..:)
[07:15] <ibanex> pixelation: probably, I did some research before choosing (core 2 duo) and went with 64bit for speed but sacrificed some compatibility
[07:15] <phealy> bthoem: rdesktop
[07:15] <phealy> bthoem: works quite well.
[07:15] <bthoem> phealy, Thanks!
[07:15] <capiira> hmm how to search in gnome ?
[07:15] <yellabs2> how can i disable keys of the keyboard , in my case numlock?
[07:15] <ircblood> Lee_Pepper its hard...?
[07:15] <phealy> no problem :)
[07:16] <capiira> i mean search incl. subdirs
[07:16] <ircblood> yellabs2 check system prefrencess?
[07:16] <Lee_Pepper> ircblood: ive build a couble but i want to make my own package list for install
[07:16] <Lee_Pepper> no extra crap
[07:16] <Aviel15> hey guys
[07:16] <ReServe2> rambo3; the problem is that I add the local adress of the BIND9 server in my xDSL router, so DNS adress on BIND9 computer is the IP to itseld.
[07:16] <Aviel15> how i can install Apache Webserver?
[07:16] <Aviel15> how i can install Apache Webserver?
[07:16] <yellabs2> i mean the config file of the keyboard
[07:16] <ircblood> bootstrap
[07:16] <yellabs2> where is it located?
[07:17] <cycom> Mighty mouse? Ubuntu? Anyone get horizontal scroll working? for some reason, button 8 (squeeze) works, but scroll doesn't. :(
[07:17] <ReServe2> rambo3; xDSL router the DHCP server
[07:17] <yellabs2> for example , we know where xorg.conf is , thats easy
[07:17] <yellabs2> now where is keyboard config?
[07:17] <Aviel15> can u help me plz??
[07:17] <Aviel15> how i can install Apache Webserver?
[07:17] <phealy> any ideas, ibanex? I've done this a number of times with the regular debian installer, so I'm betting the alternate CD will let me
 anyone know what packages i need to install if gnome is
[07:17] <ibanex> phealy: if your installing to that partition it's going to overwrite your /home
[07:17] <swami> hi, everyone :D
[07:17] <ircblood> yellabs2: System menu is on the top bar of ur desktop and preferences is a submenu under system
[07:17] <Aviel15> :( no 1 not help me
[07:18] <phealy> ibanex: bah. I just want to keep the data.
[07:18] <Aviel15> how i can install Apache Webserver?
[07:18] <ircblood> hi swami
[07:18] <ReServe2> rambo3; and DNS computer gets its DNS-adresses from DHCP... I think setting hardcoded DNS IP in DNS computer will solve this problem....
[07:18] <jheredia> juan-barcelona@hotmail.com
[07:18] <ibanex> phealy: you can back it up befor installing
[07:18] <swami> :D
[07:18] <Lee_Pepper> ircblood: any howtoos on building a ubuntu distro from bootstrap???
[07:18] <Picii> Aviel15 : sudo apt-get install apache2
[07:18] <Aviel15> thx man
[07:18] <Aviel15> good channel
[07:18] <swami> i downlaoded a few plugins for my compiz
[07:18] <phealy> well, yeah, but that's a pain :-P home is rather large
[07:19] <swami> those are havin an extension .tar.gz
[07:19] <ibanex> phealy: how large?
[07:19] <phealy> it's backing up now, but it's going to take a while
[07:19] <phealy> around 30 gig right now
[07:19] <kimmey2k3> my extern harddrive is connected to my pc via usb2 but it takes 1h15m to transfer 30gb between my pc and the drive.. any way to speed it up?
[07:19] <ibanex> phealy: yeah : ) it'll be worth it
[07:19] <swami> how do i install it? when i dowble click it, its oopening in some winrar like thing :(
[07:19] <rambo3> ReServe2, i realy don't know much about BIND9 . you should ask someone else
[07:19] <ibanex> phealy: what's your backup method?
[07:19] <egoleo> how to install webmin on feisty
[07:19] <phealy> I should just stick to the alternate install cd. I've installed debian so many times I'm quite used to it.
[07:19] <ircblood> Lee_Pepper: im not sure never looked really
[07:20] <askand> Hi! I am a little curious on programming..what is the easiest way to make graphical interface to bashscripts?
[07:20] <swami> ibanex: do u play guitar? :)
[07:20] <phealy> ibanex: normally I just have copies of all the important stuff on another machine
[07:20] <ibanex> swami: how do you know that?!?!?
[07:20] <lyam> what is default runlevel directory?
[07:20] <phealy> anything not elsewhere is rebuildable, but I'd rather not do so right now
[07:20] <Lee_Pepper> ircblood: thanks ill hunt for a while..
[07:20] <ircblood> egoleo: synapatic package manager?
[07:20] <swami> i mean my guitar has a similar name like ur nick ;)
[07:20] <egoleo> i tried that and is not
[07:20] <phealy> I don't have anything USB, so backups go over the network.
[07:21] <swami> its an ibanez :D
[07:21] <Picii> askand : look up zenity
[07:21] <ibanex> phealy: same with me
[07:21] <phealy> and unfortunately I don't have gigabit
[07:21] <ircblood> lyam: what do u mean?
[07:21] <ibanex> swami: thank god, yes it sounds like ibanez, i thought you had stalked me in the past : )
[07:21] <snipex> ppl tell me program to emulate windows programs that supports directx and can run games
[07:21] <swami> ibanex:  lol
[07:21] <lyam> I need path to the default runlevel directory
[07:21] <supremesonic> askand, look at zenity
[07:21] <phealy> lyam: /etc/rc2.d
[07:22] <Jack_Sparrow> snipex: cedega
[07:22] <snipex> jack : free
[07:22] <snipex> free program
[07:22] <Jack_Sparrow> nope
[07:22] <snipex> ?
[07:22] <phealy> there isn't one, snipex
[07:22] <swami> someone please tell me how to install those files which are the plugins for compiz :( they are in .tar.gx file type :-s
[07:22] <phealy> wine will do opengl
[07:22] <Jack_Sparrow> wine but not so much for games/directx
[07:22] <phealy> but not d3d
[07:22] <snipex> wine
[07:22] <phealy> at least not last I looked...
[07:22] <snipex> well
[07:23] <snipex> i got a problem with it
[07:23] <supremesonic> phealy, some d3d but not always.
[07:23] <swami> .tar.gz..sorry
[07:23] <ircblood> remineds me of trying to watch dvds
[07:23] <snipex> when i select folder and press next no window appears
[07:23] <phealy> good to know, supremesonic :)
[07:23] <Jack_Sparrow> snipex: cedega costs less than ANY of your WIndows games
[07:24] <snipex> it costs 5 dollars a month yes ?
[07:24] <ibanex> swami: do you know if you can apt-get them? such as "sudo apt-get install beryl-plugins" or are you installing the new ones
[07:24] <Jack_Sparrow> snipex: Id suggest you just look it over and see what games will and wont run
[07:25] <deja-vu> does anyone know how to get a usb Belkin wireless adaptor working, followed alot of tutorials and have come to a dead end
[07:25] <snipex> jack : it will run warrock
[07:25] <snipex> game i wanna play
[07:25] <Jack_Sparrow> deja-vu: I assume you tried ndiswrapper
[07:25] <swami> ibanex: those were not for beryl..
[07:25] <swami> ibanex: those were for compiz...
[07:25] <eyemean> hi i been looking everywhere to try enable 5.1 surround sound on ubuntu 7.04, can any1 pls help?
[07:25] <swami> ibanex: and i had uninstalled beryl yesterday
[07:26] <deja-vu> yeah i used ndiswrapper and the drivers that came with the adaptor it shows in iwconfig
[07:26] <Jack_Sparrow> snipex: No idea, I dont play andy Windows games, I ran cedega just to check it out
[07:26] <deja-vu> just doesnt want to work
[07:26] <ibanex> swami: beryl should be the 'new' compiz, unless you are going for the spakin new ones after the merge
[07:26] <deja-vu> im new to this distro
[07:26] <snipex> Jack : is installation of cedega easy ? cuz i used windows 3 days ago
[07:26] <egoleo> how do i install webmin
[07:26] <gordonjcp> don't install webmin
[07:26] <snipex> and i dont wanna pay if it doesnt work
[07:26] <wietz0r> deja-vu: It _should_ just work
[07:26] <egoleo> i tried using synaptic
[07:26] <gordonjcp> webmin is teh suck
[07:26] <Jack_Sparrow> snipex: yes, it was quite painless.
[07:26] <egoleo> not well
[07:27] <snipex> jack : u got cedega ???
[07:27] <Picii> egoleo : Check out the documentation on webmin's website.
[07:27] <swami> ibanex: well.. if i say what the plugins are u will understand... snow, animation, wall, etc.. are the plugins
[07:27] <egoleo> ok
[07:27] <Picii> egoleo : I dont think its in the ubuntu repositories.
[07:27] <Jack_Sparrow> snipex: not in this machine
[07:27] <swami> ibanex: they are for compiz ryt?
[07:27] <ibanex> swami: i've got those for beryl too
[07:27] <snipex> jack : but u got it ?
[07:27] <egoleo> ok
[07:27] <swami> ohhh
[07:27] <ibanex> swami: i believe they are in that package, see what happens
[07:27] <phealy> I do, snipex. why?
[07:27] <Jack_Sparrow> snipex: yes,
[07:28] <egoleo> i tried had way and is complaining of dependencies
[07:28] <ibanex> swami: it could be in beryl-plugins-unsupported
[07:28] <swami> ibanex: exactly.. they sed its unsupported
[07:28] <swami> but, in those utube videos, i see them working, and thats how i googled and found these :(
[07:28] <ibanex> swami: i would get em anyways... :) i don't think it's a big deal, but it's up to you
[07:29] <javabyte> i installed dvb-utils but i can't find the atsc directory anywhere - it's not where it's supposed to be at /usr/share/dvb/scan/atsc/.. any ideas where it's got too?
[07:29] <snipex> im thinking of buying cedega
[07:29] <swami> unsupported != buggy ???
[07:29] <swami> ibanex: unsupported != buggy ???
[07:29] <cycom> snipex: I like it! It lets me play dawn of war and Battlefield 2142
[07:29] <Aviel15> hey guys
[07:29] <phealy> swami: unsupported == don't ask for help if it doesn't work, not "it won't work"
[07:29] <Aviel15> the vsftpd not working
[07:29] <swami> ibanex: ohh.. sorry :(
[07:30] <ibanex> swami: no worries, phealy: good description
[07:30] <Jack_Sparrow> snipex: Check your distro for info on the games you want to be sure they work with cedega and your choice of OS
[07:30] <eZtaR> Can anyone help me with openGL support
[07:30] <eZtaR> ?
[07:30] <swami> ibanex: but, still u dint tell me how to install them :(
[07:30] <ircblood> you can ask for help when ever,just some places might be better to ask then others
[07:30] <snipex> jack : game works on cedega and i got ubuntu dapper drake
[07:31] <Xchat> Hello. In the Synaptic Package Manager, there is a bitchx-gtk which says its a graphical interface to BitchX. How do I run that? I installed it but I'm only able to use the version run from the console. I don't have the graphical version under "Applications > Internet". Please help!
[07:31] <ibanex> swami: try "sudo apt-cache search beryl-plugins-unsupported"
[07:31] <Biel> f
[07:31] <Jack_Sparrow> snipex: google dapper cedega and your game
[07:31] <snipex> cycom : what version of ubuntu u got cedega on ?
[07:31] <swami> ibanex: okie :) lemme try that :)
[07:31] <ibanex> swami: if its there "sudo apt-get install beryl-plugins-unsupported"
[07:31] <ibanex> swami: if its not, we might have to change your sources.list
[07:31] <Jack_Sparrow> I use dapper and call of duty would not work with 2.6 kernel and the copy protection.
[07:32] <swami> ibanex: but, i had uninstalled beryl yesterday... so, will downloading this work :O
[07:32] <Vich> Jack_Sparrow, you pay me a great insult
[07:32] <cycom> snipex: feisty
[07:32] <Vich> well, not me personally
[07:32] <Aviel15> guys its write me when i try to connect to my ftp
[07:32] <ibanex> swami: you should just apt-get everything again then, including beryl-plugins-unsupported
[07:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Vich.. how is that
[07:32] <Aviel15> vsftpd: both local and anonymous access disabled!
[07:33] <deja-vu> anyone got a usb Belkin G wireless adaptor working? could really use a point in the right direction. id settle for any direction actually
[07:33] <Aviel15> how i can fix it?
[07:33] <Vich> mainly over the automatix thing, but I was actually just referencing the latest pirates movie
[07:33] <phealy> someone's been watching pirates too much (*looks at Vich*)
[07:33] <INIT_6> I have 5 drives. 3 of them are fine and working great. 2 or maxtor 300gb SATA 1. I can cfdisk them and re-write the partion table just fine. However, can't run mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc1. error says can't becuase it's being used. I restarted the computer and nothing is mounting it. any ideas?
[07:33] <Vich> lol
[07:33] <swami> ibanex: well, how :( am a newbie :( so i dont know the commands :-<
[07:33] <Aviel15> its write me vsftpd: both local and anonymous access disabled!
[07:33] <Aviel15> when i try to connect to ftp
[07:33] <Aviel15> how i can fix it?
[07:33] <Jack_Sparrow> vich, Did not intend to slight anyone, you recommended Automatix and I said it was not a good idea..
[07:33] <Aviel15> ??
[07:34] <eZtaR> Can anyone help me with openGL support? Because every time i try to play a game using openGL to render, i get big colored boxes where either text or inputboxes should appear, and my system freezes
[07:34] <Aviel15> help plz gyus
[07:34] <ibanex> swami: sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-plugins beryl-plugins-unsupported emerald
[07:34] <Aviel15> guys
[07:34] <Aviel15> i new in ubuntu
[07:34] <Aviel15> how i can fix
[07:34] <Aviel15> its write: vsftpd: both local and anonymous access disabled!
[07:34] <swami> ibanex: thanks a lot :) lemme try that :)
[07:34] <ibanex> swami: i think thats all... have you had beryl working before? no problem
[07:34] <swami> yeah it was working..
[07:34] <INIT_6> aviel15 do you have firewall
[07:34] <Aviel15> yes
[07:35] <Aviel15> iptables
[07:35] <swami> ibanex: but i never saw any other effect other than the cube and wobbly
[07:35] <INIT_6> are you blocking your self
[07:35] <swami> ibanex: :(
[07:35] <Aviel15> idk
[07:35] <Aviel15> hh
[07:35] <Aviel15> dont know it
[07:35] <Aviel15> i just install today ubuntu
[07:35] <ibanex> swami: thats fine, as long as it worked... the other effects are enabled and configured with "beryl-settings" from a terminal
[07:35] <swami> ibanex: the word terminal is as of now scary for me :(
[07:36] <ronzo> hello fello ubuntu users!
[07:36] <snipex> ppl is ubuntu's default firewall good ?
[07:36] <INIT_6> if you can't access your ftp from your own box then maybe the deamon has a problem loading you sure it's up
[07:36] <swami> ibanex: so, did u mean here is no graphical configuration for beryl?
[07:36] <ibanex> swami: as it was to me a while ago, but it's the best thing ever... beryl-settings will pop up the graphical config : )
[07:36] <ronzo> swami, there is one
[07:36] <Jack_Sparrow> snipex: YEs, iptables default setup is fine
[07:36] <limbeaux> I have an amd dual core.  should i intall the smp kernel?
[07:36] <Aviel15> what is deamon
[07:36] <limbeaux> or does it really make a difference
[07:36] <INIT_6> !deamon
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deamon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <swami> ibanex: ronzo yeah i saw that.. but there is no plug in setting in tht
[07:37] <snipex> seems ill have to stop playin wr :'(
[07:37] <ronzo> swami, i have one running for me, let me find the package for ya. =)
[07:37] <INIT_6> !daemons
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about daemons - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <Jack_Sparrow> snipex: If you need to open up a port, get firestarter or guarddog for manual gui controls
[07:37] <snipex> !cedega
[07:37] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[07:37] <swami> ronzo: :D thank you :)
[07:37] <Aviel15> !deamon
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deamon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:37] <bsdunix> why is it that sudo apt-get remove pkgname --purge accomplishes absolutely nothing, ever?
[07:37] <ibanex> swami: after you apt-get all of those you should have them
[07:37] <Xchat> Someone help me, please!
[07:37] <swami> ronzo: my mom always says i like spoon feeding :P
[07:38] <INIT_6> aviel, it's a service what runs in the background like your ftpd
[07:38] <Picii> !ask | Xchat
[07:38] <ubotu> Xchat: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:38] <swami> ibanex: i apt got everything
[07:38] <Aviel15> and what its od?
[07:38] <swami> ibanex: :)
[07:38] <INIT_6> the d at that the end stands for deameon
[07:38] <Aviel15> do*
[07:38] <snipex> jack : why would i need to open a port ??? i just wanna know if it can protect me from hackers
[07:38] <bsdunix> ronzo: my wife says i like breast feeding, same thing maybe
[07:38] <Jack_Sparrow> swami: No spoonfeeding here, just suppositiories
[07:38] <ronzo> swami, do you have beryl-settings installed?
[07:38] <INIT_6> anyways you might want to restart it. aviel. what ftp program are you using again?
[07:38] <Xchat> Picii, I already did
[07:38] <swami> Jack_Sparrow: i was just kidding :D
[07:38] <Xchat> Hello. In the Synaptic Package Manager, there is a bitchx-gtk which says its a graphical interface to BitchX. How do I run that? I installed it but I'm only able to use the version run from the console. I don't have the graphical version under "Applications > Internet". Please help!
[07:39] <Jack_Sparrow> me too
[07:39] <swami> ronzo: yeah now it appears at the bottom of applications
[07:39] <ronzo> what is a good audio converter? im trying to convert an m4a to mp3
[07:39] <swami> Jack_Sparrow: :P
[07:39] <bsdunix> Xchat: irssi in cli is probably what you really need
[07:39] <ronzo> swami, yea, under system tools. you should now be able to run it
[07:39] <cici> hi
[07:39] <snipex> ye ppl i wanna convert mp4 to mp3 , any good free converters
[07:39] <Picii> Xchat : I'm installing it now, let me look and I'll let you know.
[07:39] <cici> what is the lastest version of nvidia-glx driver ?
[07:40] <swami> ronzo: but, this is the same window i got yesterday :( there is no plug in settings :(
[07:40] <phealy> ibanex: fyi, the alternate install CD will let you do what I wanted :-P
[07:40] <Xchat> Picii: Okay :)
[07:40] <ibanex> phealy: really? what other options does it have
[07:40] <phealy> so let's just hope it doesn't nuke my /home, and if it does I'll restore from backup
[07:40] <bsdunix> anybody here got an amiga?
[07:40] <phealy> lots more options, IIRC. like doing encrypted root fs
[07:40] <apadox> i have this problem   my notebook has no other way of installing ubuntu than this   i connected hard disk from my notebook to my pc and i have downloaded alternate version of feisty  can someone guide me further
[07:40] <INIT_6> does anyone now why when I run mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc1 it' says it's being used. However, nothing mounted it doesn't have a filesystem. and rebooted. Have any ideas why it says it's being used?
[07:41] <ibanex> phealy: i'm thinkin it will nuke it... go for it tho if its backed up
[07:41] <Jack_Sparrow> If I want to try and install ati video drivers and I make a copy of Xorg before I do and things go wrong.  Can I just replace my xorg with the working one and get back into my system?
[07:41] <ronzo> swami, is beryl-plugins-data on there?
[07:41] <swami> ronzo: nope :(
[07:41] <ShackJack> Jack_Sparrow: yep..
[07:41] <ronzo> ill PM
[07:41] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[07:42] <ronzo> swami, its not cooperating
[07:42] <bsdunix> INIT_6: physically remove the drive in question, see if you can function normally without it, if so, maybe it is some stale links
[07:42] <snipex> ppl does Cedega work on dapper ???????
[07:42] <persica> apadox: It isn't part of a raid or lvm set, is it?
[07:42] <swami> ronzo: i have general, window mgmt, desktop, vfx, accessibility, extras, development, and image format :(
[07:42] <apadox> no
[07:42] <apadox> i put out my notebook harddisk
[07:42] <apadox> and connect to pc
[07:43] <ibanex> swami: i think i forgot about the package ronzo mentioned, apt get it
[07:43] <apadox> i see now two partitions
[07:43] <apadox> on xp
[07:43] <persica> INIT_6: is it part of a raid set or LVM set?
[07:43] <Chris689> Hi
[07:43] <apadox> and i dont see linux partitions that are empty
[07:43] <swami> ibanex: && ronzo : what package?
[07:43] <ronzo> swami, i have a working install of beryl. install manager, plugins, plugins-data, settings, settings-bindings, and that should do it
[07:43] <persica> apadox: sorry, I misspoke.  But for you, you're trying to do an alternate install on a laptop, starting with an image of the CD on your desktop?
[07:43] <ronzo> swami, you can look at them in synaptic too
[07:43] <apadox> is there a way to install grub over xp
[07:43] <apadox> or something
[07:43] <apadox> so that disk can be bootable
[07:44] <Picii> Xchat : The command is gtkBitchX
[07:44] <swami> ronzo: this is what i did
[07:44] <apadox> i have one fat32 partition
[07:44] <swami> ronzo: sudo apt-get install beryl beryl-plugins beryl-plugins-unsupported emerald
[07:44] <Chris689> I know this is simple, but could someone help me change my screen resolution...
[07:44] <ibanex> swami: hes saying also get beryl-plugins-data
[07:44] <apadox> persica
[07:44] <Xchat> Picii: Okay, thanks. Is there way I can make it appear under Applications > Internet?
[07:44] <persica> apadox: Yes, there is a way to install GRUB on the MBR of that notebook harddisk.  However, if you aren't installing on the notebook itself you'll have a lot of trouble with some of the hardware detection I think.
[07:44] <ibanex> swami: so "sudo apt-get install beryl-plugins-data"
[07:44] <swami> ibanex: ohhh okie :)
[07:44] <CarlFK> how can I get the .py out of python-grub-3.1.0-1pclos2007.i586.rpm ?
[07:44] <ronzo> swami, that should do it for you. =)
[07:45] <apadox> my notebook is dead if i dont do something
[07:45] <CarlFK> or install it
[07:45] <Picii> Xchat : if you run the alacarte menu editor (which is on the menus somewhere I think), you can add a custom entry.
[07:45] <apadox> dont have optiacl drive
[07:45] <ronzo> does anyone know of a good audio converter? have some m4a i want to convert to mp3 / ogg
[07:45] <apadox> and i dont have other boot options
[07:45] <Chris689> I've got beryl running, but I want to change my res to 1280*1024...but it doesn't show up as an option..
[07:45] <apadox> have to try something from xp
[07:45] <CarlFK> as far as I know, it is just some 'simple' python - if I can get the dern .py file, I can just run it...
[07:45] <Chris689> I've edited my xorg.conf to include 1280*1024 and restarted...
[07:45] <ronzo> Chris689, edit your xorg.conf file
[07:45] <swami> ibanex: i did that
[07:45] <neul> hi y'all
[07:45] <Chris689> did it
[07:46] <Aviel15> hey
[07:46] <ronzo> Chris689, what video card are you using?
[07:46] <swami> ibanex: and it sed 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:46] <Picii> CarlFK : alien might be able to extract it, take a look at the switches/manpage.
[07:46] <Chris689> Radeon 9600SE
[07:46] <persica> apadox: What you will probably want to do is run the CD from your desktop, install on your laptop's harddrive (you said you have it hooked up, right?) but you'll want to skip the grub step and do it manually.
[07:46] <Aviel15> when i try to write sudo apt-get autoremove vsftpd
[07:46] <Aviel15> when i try to write sudo apt-get autoremove vsftpd
[07:46] <Aviel15> its write: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:46] <CarlFK> Picii: thanks
[07:46] <Picii> CarlFK : but dont install it, I'm not sure what it will do.
[07:46] <neul> newbie... need advice
[07:46] <Aviel15> how i can fix it plz
[07:46] <swami> ibanex: beryl-plugins-data is already the newest version.
[07:46] <swami> beryl-plugins-data set to manual installed.
[07:46] <Aviel15> how i can fix it plz
[07:46] <Aviel15> its write: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[07:46] <ibanex> ibanex: and nothing shows up in beryl-settings
[07:47] <magnetron> !enter
[07:47] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:47] <Picii> Aviel15 : manually run sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a
[07:47] <Aviel15> k thx
[07:47] <swami> ibanex: nothing??? there several things , but nothing like berly plugins section :(
[07:47] <judran23> YOU ARE THE BEST PEOPLE
[07:47] <swami> ibanex: beryl*
[07:47] <ShackJack> Picii - I would've never thought of that ;)
[07:48] <neul> downloaded 7.04... how do I burn it onto disc?
[07:48] <Picii> ShackJack :p
[07:48] <judran23> UBUNTU WHAT DOES IT MEANS?
[07:48] <Aviel15> lol
[07:48] <Picii> !ubuntu | judran23
[07:48] <ubotu> judran23: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[07:48] <ShackJack> judran23: "Can't install Debian"
[07:48] <Aviel15> go nero express
[07:48] <Aviel15> click image
[07:48] <Aviel15> and select the rar
[07:48] <Aviel15> and click burn
[07:48] <ronzo> neul, install k3b and you can install the image
[07:48] <apadox> persica  can i install grub on fat32 partition or something that will install linux from my harddrive
[07:48] <jl> hi everybody!
[07:48] <ronzo> swami, if you open synaptic, it makes install beryl much easier. =)
[07:48] <ibanex> swami: "sudo apt-get install beryl-plugins-unsupported-data"
[07:49] <ShackJack> jl is here - yay!
[07:49] <judran23> sHACKjACK ;)
[07:49] <ibanex> swami: ronzo: that data package is prob missing too
[07:49] <Talcite> does anyone know why my system hangs after suspending?
[07:49] <someperson> where can i find gnome-power-manager, i have to edit something to disable hibernation?
[07:49] <apadox> to emulate cd installation just to mount fat32 partition and to install from there
[07:49] <neul> ronzo, please clarify...
[07:49] <swami> ibanex: beryl-plugins-unsupported-data is already the newest version.
[07:49] <ronzo> neul, what operating system are you using?
[07:49] <judran23> THANKS UBUNTU
[07:49] <ShackJack> someperson: just type in terminal - or under prefs...
[07:49] <swami> ibanex: :(
[07:49] <ibanex> swami: neeevermind
[07:49] <swami> ibanex: done
[07:50] <ZoOl__> What is the Synaptic Package manager and where can I find it? I need to remove Amarok because it crashes...
[07:50] <neul> double booting Win and Ubuntu 5.10
[07:50] <ronzo> ZoOl__, system > admin > synaptic
[07:50] <swami> ibanex: now i can see the plugins like snow, water, etc... but everything is kept disabled, and i cant change it as well!!!
[07:50] <ZoOl__> thank you...
[07:50] <judran23>  double booting Win and Ubuntu 5.10 AT THE SAME TIME?
[07:50] <ibanex> swami: mess around with the settings thing, you have them now.  i have to eat, good luck
[07:50] <jl> hi ShackJack, do i know you?
[07:50] <swami> ibanex: alright :D
[07:50] <someperson> I'm not actually getting anything when I trpe it in the terminal
[07:51] <ronzo> neul, if your in windows, install a version of nero and there will be an option to "burn image". if your in ubuntu, do apt-get install k3b, and there will also be an option to burn an image. =)
[07:51] <someperson> supoosedly there is a line I have to edit to disable hibernation
[07:51] <neul> lol judran... i have both, but not at the same time :)
[07:51] <gerro> neul: don't use nero use isorecorder, nero is worst thing ever created for windows and has no support for burning iso files
[07:51] <W8TAH> anyone here running kvirc on feisty?
[07:52] <jl> does somebody knows if the intel 915 graphics card is fully supported in ubuntu?
[07:52] <Frelador> huuh
[07:52] <Frelador> lots of peeps here o.O
[07:52] <ronzo> jl, i think so. im using the i810
[07:52] <swami> ronzo: now am tired, lemme go take a shower :D rest of the messing with settings after that :D
[07:52] <neul> must I convert the ISO file, or burn it as ISO?
[07:52] <Ravenndude`> What is the package that I need to install to get my dual AMD processors (AMD MPs) recognized?
[07:52] <Frelador> hey, could anyone...help me out maybe?
[07:52] <ronzo> hehe, later swami
[07:53] <ronzo> ask away, freakazoid0223
[07:53] <CarlFK> Ravenndude`: it should be enabled
[07:53] <ronzo> Frelador, **
[07:53] <ShackJack> !ask | Frelador
[07:53] <swami> ronzo: in the mean time even i'm downloading that k3b :)
[07:53] <ubotu> Frelador: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:53] <CarlFK> Ravenndude`: run top, hit 1, see if it shows 2 cpu's
[07:53] <Frelador> oh, sure
[07:53] <Frelador> the old rule
[07:53] <Frelador> well, i want to install ubuntu soon
[07:53] <ronzo> swami, k3b ftw. =)
[07:53] <jl> ronzo: but glx version reports to be 1.2 not 1.3
[07:53] <swami> ronzo: :P
[07:53] <Frelador> though i sadly have no experience with linux ;{
[07:53] <noemi2> noemi_lopez_g@hotmail.com
[07:53] <noemi2> noelia
[07:53] <swami> ronzo: BRB - Bath Room Break!!! ;)
[07:53] <Frelador> im even lost at the download menu
[07:53] <ShackJack> !enter | Frelador
[07:53] <ubotu> Frelador: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:54] <Frelador> meh, im sorry, im always doing that ;D
[07:54] <ronzo> jl, what driver are you using in xorg?
[07:54] <Ravenndude`> CarlFK, ahh thanks. Then is there an optimization of some sort? I remember having to install a certain kernel package ... K7 I believe?
[07:54] <someperson> what is the easiest way to disable hibernation, someone told me to edit something in gnome-power-manager, but I can't find where
[07:55] <jl> ronzo, i'm using the i810 driver
[07:55] <Frelador> so, on the ubuntu website, at the download page, whats the last checkbox for? the one that says something about an alternate desktop cd
[07:55] <CarlFK> Ravenndude`: about a year ago the made SMP the default - works just as well on a one CPU box
[07:55] <CarlFK> Frelador: don't check it
[07:55] <Ravenndude`> CarlFK, Ahh, thank you very much =)
[07:55] <Frelador> explain?
[07:55] <eyemean> CM8738 5.1 surround sound on ubuntu 7.04, can any1 help please?
[07:55] <CarlFK> Frelador: like checking it, only you don't.
[07:55] <luisbg> what range of cpu temperatures do you think are "safe"?
[07:55] <ronzo> jl, what i ended up having to do was to force it to use the resolution. i use 1280x768, and it wouldn't support it. i had to delete / coment out the other ones
[07:55] <Ravenndude`> luisbg, It depends on the CPU
[07:55] <CarlFK> Frelador: if you have problems with the normal one, you may need to check it
[07:56] <ShackJack> someperson: you can go into gconf2 and look for can_hiberate key and uncheck it...
[07:56] <ronzo> jl, it then worked for me after that
[07:56] <Frelador> well, i dont even know what "normal" is in this case..
[07:56] <someperson> where is that?
[07:56] <someperson> i am fairly new to this, sorry
[07:56] <Frelador> oh, well, i guess i know what you mean
[07:57] <ronzo> any audio converters or a way to have audacity read a m4a file?
[07:57] <Frelador> where should i install ubuntu on? ntfs partition or fat?
[07:57] <ShackJack> someperson: Shoud be under system tools or type gconf-editor in Ternimal... and search for can_hibernate
[07:57] <luisbg> Ravenndude`, in this case is a core 2 duo, but I'm wondering generally
[07:57] <jl> ronzo, i'm using the same resolution, what version of glx do you have?
[07:57] <sixr420> i got 2 ubuntu 7.04 machines, both have an extra 500 gig hard drive /mount/500 on both,  im interesting in software that can keep the 2 sync'd,  i add and delete to each from both computers,    any ideas?
[07:58] <Gomazia> hello
[07:58] <Ravenndude`> luisbg, Give this a read: http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/Core-Duo-Temperature-Guide-ftopict221745.html
[07:58] <eyemean> frelador - it has its own ext3 system so u would need to format to ext3 during installation
[07:58] <Gomazia> i have a 3d Card (Sapphire 1950 x) brand new and can't seem to be able to configure it with Ubuntu
[07:58] <someperson> thanks, that worked ShackJack
[07:58] <Gomazia> any help?
[07:58] <Gomazia> Please?
[07:58] <ShackJack> !ask | Gomazia
[07:58] <Frelador> eyemean: well, i was told to install it onto a fat partition o.O
[07:58] <ronzo> jl, how do i find the version?
[07:58] <ubotu> Gomazia: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:59] <luisbg> Ravenndude`, thanks
[07:59] <Frelador> eyemean: but i thought i would ask again lol
[07:59] <Gomazia> ok
[07:59] <Gomazia> how do i configure my sapphire 1950 x with Ubuntu?
[07:59] <incorrect> Gomazia, have you installed ubuntu?
[07:59] <eyemean> as far as i know its best to defragment drive, format it then delete
[08:00] <Gomazia> yes
[08:00] <jl> ronzo go to the terminal glxinfo and you will see the line "glx version:"
[08:00] <eyemean> then install ubuntu
[08:00] <Gomazia> 6.06
[08:00] <ronzo> jl, version is 1.2
[08:00] <incorrect> Gomazia, does X not work?
[08:00] <allspiritseve> how do I do an online installation of ubuntu? I have no blank cds, though I do have a feisty live cd that doesn't boot up due to issues with my laptop
[08:00] <Frelador> cya and thanks for help, maybe i will check back later ;D
[08:00] <Gomazia> yes
[08:00] <Gomazia> but not the 3d
[08:01] <Gomazia> i was trying Beryl
[08:01] <ronzo> jl, is the 1280x768 the only resolution in your xorg? for all the lines?
[08:01] <incorrect> Gomazia, i found google to be pretty good at quickly finding the answer to such questions
[08:01] <Gomazia> humm
[08:01] <Gomazia> ok, the prob is that i have 1 week of Ubuntu...
[08:01] <newuser> hi. Is there any way to lower the brightness/contrast in ubuntu?
[08:02] <jl> ronzo, yes but in different depth modes
[08:02] <Gomazia> and i'm very used to win XP
[08:02] <Gomazia> but willing to change...
[08:02] <SeXXXmachine> and so is everyone else
[08:02] <sixr420> anybody know of software thaht can sync folders?  i got 2 ubuntu 7.04 machines, both have an extra 500 gig hard drive /mount/500 onboth,  im interesting in software that can keep the 2 sync'd,  i add and delete to each from both computers.
[08:03] <mrobbert> Gomazia: Is this card using an ATI or an Nvidia chipset or something entirely different?
[08:03] <ronzo> jl, for the depths ,you want each one to be only 1280x768
[08:03] <ronzo> jl, you may also have to do a modline
[08:03] <ShackJack> Gomazia: You can also check out the #ubuntu-effects channel for focused help on beryl/3d, etc...
[08:04] <SubOn1> How can I resize my boot ext3 partition?
[08:04] <Gomazia> uses ATI Radeon
[08:04] <eyemean> frelador - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236 that is for dual boot, but obviously just ignore the windows part and u should be ok
[08:04] <ShackJack> SubOn1: check out gparted (built in)
[08:05] <SubOn1> ShackJack: I have it won't let me resize it
[08:05] <jl> ronzo the depth is ok is working at 24, the only problem that i have is the glx version thats why i don't have fully 3d support
[08:05] <mrobbert> Gomazia: I've heard of quite a few people having problems with the ATI drivers so you are not alone.
[08:05] <omha> j #php
[08:05] <ShackJack> SubOn1: you have to unmount it first - right click, etc..
[08:05] <SubOn1> ShackJack: it says i cant unmount it
[08:05] <Gomazia> arrghhhh.... :(
[08:05] <ShackJack> SubOn1: You can also use it from live CD and you shouldn't have a problem..
[08:05] <darwin81> How can I make Ubuntu not start GDM on start up?
[08:06] <ronzo> jl, can you run glxgears?
[08:06] <nny> ok ill trade someone.. someone help me figure out where network-manager is storing my old WPA key, and i'll help someone figure out somehitng else
[08:06] <SubOn1> ShackJack: gparted is on the livecd? because i had to install it on my system
[08:06] <nny> darwin81, chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[08:06] <nny> darwin81, sudo before that
[08:06] <cycom> Anyone get a mighty mouse working with horizontal scroll? Xev doesn't show any events for the left and right, but cat /dev/input/input8 (the current mouse input) shows activity when I move the scroll ball horizontally.
[08:06] <Gomazia> i'll try #ubuntu-effects. Thanks !
[08:06] <ber1> for compatibility issues, i need to install windows and uninstall windows. is there anything special to this, or can i just install windows over my entire harddrive and simply override the ubuntu partition during installation?
[08:06] <ShackJack> SubOn1: Hmm... should be... not entirely sure...
[08:06] <surviver> nny, whats the difference with +x?
[08:06] <mrobbert> Gomazia: I have gotten them to work so, but my system got a little sluggish so I turned off the effects. Is there any reason that you haven't upgraded to 7.04? 6.06 is now a year old and the 3D effects have come a long way in that year.
[08:06] <nny> darwin81, sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/gdm to fix
[08:06] <caravel> hi again -- trying hard to share thunderbird data across profiles (several distros and xp, multiboot workstation) -- but I fail to find a complete or up-to-date how to for this. Could anyone please help me to confirm the procedure with version 2.0.0.4 ?
[08:06] <darwin81> nny, Will that just boot into a command line
[08:07] <nny> surviver, -x removes executable rights, +x adds it
[08:07] <digitalbc> anyone use pdt eclipse?
[08:07] <nny> darwin81, yes
[08:07] <caravel> (...) I just need to confirm the complete lists of files which I can redirect using user_pref statements, and those which I have to symlink in linux profiles
[08:07] <SubOn1> ShackJack: hold on searching the disc
[08:07] <ZtingeR> I downloaded Ubuntu 7.04 some days ago and burned it out. It boots up fine to the CD menu, but as soon as i choose anything i get a screen that says "Kernel alive" and then the monitor goes off after a second. Anyone heard of issues with this?
[08:07] <surviver> nny, ow lol good to know i know the + lol never needed the - :p
[08:07] <darwin81> nny, What can I do to change it back?
[08:07] <jl> ronzo yes i can, its works at 450-550 fps, what about you?
[08:07] <ZtingeR> Using 64bit version
[08:07] <persica> Does anyone here have some experience on installing ubuntu from an existing partition on a harddrive?  apadox had a laptop with no optical drive to install from and is trying to install from one partition on his hard drive to another.  I'm not sure how to set up a bootloader for that.
[08:07] <nny> darwin81, sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/gdm to fix
[08:07] <Gomazia> the only reason is that i found this version first, so i downloaded it...
[08:08] <fuzzy_logic> hi people
[08:08] <surviver> hi
[08:08] <nny> anyone who might have a lead on WPA key storage location, hook me up ^^
[08:08] <Gomazia> 'll get 7.04
[08:08] <darwin81> nny, oh sorry didn't notice you had answered above
[08:08] <Pelo> nny, try the forum
[08:08] <nny> darwin81, np
[08:08] <nny> Pelo, have been looking.. will do
[08:08] <mrobbert> Gomazia: 7.04 is the first version that I even got them to work. It is just a matter of a check box  or two and they're automatically installed and activated.
[08:09] <SubOn1> ShackJack: no gparted on the disc
[08:09] <pi3> does kubuntu require less ram than ubuntu for the average user?
[08:09] <Pelo> nny, wonT' does keys be located in the keyring thingy like all the others ?
[08:09] <fuzzy_logic> pi3: not really if you do the same things
[08:09] <Pelo> pi no  kbe is more demanding
[08:09] <crackintosh> Can someone explain why my feisty installation says I have jdk 1.5 installed when I type 'sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk' but when I type 'locate jdk' I dont get any binaries. only documentation.
[08:09] <fuzzy_logic> pi3: consider xubuntu if speed is important for you
[08:09] <Commander-Ape> is there a way to forward mails from an imap account to a pop3 account automatically?
[08:09] <ronzo> jl, i get about 520 fps
[08:09] <mrobbert> Gomazia: You can even just try running it as a LiveCD to see if they will work out of the box.
[08:09] <nny> Pelo, maybe.. last time i looked, they were in /etc/network, but i can't find em now and i changed my WPA ket
[08:09] <nny> key*
[08:09] <pi3> fuzzy_logic: what do you recommend to use for a 256mb ram pc?
[08:09] <SubOn1> ShackJack: when i ran the install CD and went through the installation as far as the disk partitioning it wouldnt allow me to resize it
[08:09] <nny> may just do a dpkg-reconfigure
[08:09] <Gomazia> i will
[08:10] <surviver> nny, tried locate wpa?
[08:10] <fuzzy_logic> pi3: xubuntu :)
[08:10] <ronzo> jl, so you should be able to run it. i havne't seen it any higher than that
[08:10] <pi3> fuzzy_logic: and normal use, i mean firefox-gaim-email
[08:10] <Pelo> nny,   menu > system > admin > keyring manager or something
[08:10] <pi3> okapi14, thanks fuzzy_logic
[08:10] <ZtingeR> Have anyone heard of any issues with 7.04 64bit?
[08:10] <fuzzy_logic> pi3: np :)
[08:10] <Bllz> Hey guys
[08:10] <fuzzy_logic> bi Bllz
[08:10] <c_lisp> say im on another computer somewhere is there a way to scream my mp3s from my pc to a ssh client somewhere?
[08:10] <Bllz> I can't seem to apt-get install AmaoK
[08:10] <persica> pi3: start with a server install, then install xfce-desktop.
[08:10] <Jack_Sparrow> I am at cli and I need to replace xorg.conf with my renamed backup.. anyone able to help me with the cli commands
[08:10] <Gomazia> mrobbert : Thank's for the advice
[08:10] <Bllz> would downloading it as a package solve the problem?
[08:10] <ronzo> gotta run, sorry. =(
[08:11] <sixr420> ZtingeR: i did with software
[08:11] <pi3> persica: the livecd requires more ram than the install right?
[08:11] <persica> Anyone here have some experience with setting up grub to boot a cd image loaded into a partition?
[08:11] <surviver> ztinger, yes some couple with all 64 bit no online watching stuff :p like macromedia or kind of
[08:11] <sixr420> yep,flash
[08:11] <ZtingeR> Well, i cant get the CD running properly
[08:11] <fuzzy_logic> Bllz: the apt-get system is case-sensitive, so try amarok with a small a
[08:11] <pha|con> Jack_Sparrow: mv xorg.conf.old xorg.conf
[08:11] <Pelo> persica,  try asking in #grub  but donT' expect much
[08:11] <persica> pi3: yeah.  The server edition install also installs fewer things in the background that will suck up memory.
[08:11] <surviver> ztinger, u need to run him from bootup
[08:11] <ZoOl__> I'm using the desktop effects but my " workstations on a cube" do not work anymore. Any ideas?
[08:11] <ZtingeR> I get the bootmenu, but screen goes blank if i choose anything.
[08:11] <SubOn1> Anyone else know how I can resize a partition?
[08:11] <persica> Pelo: hehe, thanks.
[08:11] <Bllz> oh okay
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> pha|con: ty
[08:12] <fuzzy_logic> Sub0n1: gparted :)
[08:12] <Bllz> fuzzy_logic, i think that's not the problem though.  I'll download it, but something either wont install or wont download ... other parts will though
[08:12] <bensode> Trying to install KRB5-USER on 6.06 LTS server but getting a unmet dependencies error that the packages are broken?
[08:12] <jl> ronzo in other graphics cards it is higher than that
[08:12] <Pelo> ZtingeR,  nvdia or ati video card ?  use the alternate install cd
[08:12] <ZtingeR> ATI
[08:12] <Bllz> It seems like a dependency issue more than anything... but that's my noob guess
[08:12] <Bllz> (and by noob i  mean absolute noob)
[08:12] <Pelo> !alternate | ZtingeR
[08:12] <ubotu> ZtingeR: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[08:12] <fuzzy_logic> Bllz: what program do you use? terminal, aptitude, synaptic??
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> pha|con: ty so in my case it would be mv xorg.good xorg.conf
[08:12] <SubOn1> fuzzy_logic: gparted won't let me resize it
[08:12] <pha|con> Jack_Sparrow: yup
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[08:13] <fuzzy_logic> Sub0n1: what kind of partition is it?
[08:13] <SubOn1> ext3
[08:13] <newuser> anyone know hwo to adjust Contrast/Brightness?
[08:13] <Bllz> fuzzy_logic, terminal I guess?
[08:13] <Bllz> whatever the default Gnome one is
[08:13] <ZtingeR> ok, ill check for the alternative
[08:13] <Ca0s> hi
[08:13] <ZtingeR> thanx for the tip
[08:13] <fuzzy_logic> Sub0n1: what kind of error message do you get?
[08:14] <Bllz> fuzzy_logic, I just checked. it's definitely terminal
[08:14] <fuzzy_logic> Bllz: so when you type sudo apt-get install amarok what error message do you get??
[08:14] <Aviel15> hey guys
[08:14] <fuzzy_logic> hi Aviel15 :)
[08:14] <Aviel15> i now format my ubuntu and i install it again
[08:14] <Aviel15> i want to do it for server
[08:14] <Aviel15> i can choose there server?
[08:14] <SubOn1> fuzzy_logic: it's the boot partition ext3
[08:15] <fuzzy_logic> Aviel15: you have to download the server edition from www.ubuntu.com
[08:15] <Ca0s> some body speak spanish?
[08:15] <Bllz> hmm... that's a good questioni
[08:15] <ivan> anyone running windows with vmware with ubuntu on it?
[08:15] <Aviel15> oh cool
[08:15] <magnetron> !es | Ca0s
[08:15] <ubotu> Ca0s: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:15] <daquino> how do i get the mouse drivers to reload so that my usb mouse works ? i dont want to reboot....
[08:15] <digitalbc> ivan: i have done it
[08:15] <Bllz> i'll get back to you on that
[08:15] <Bllz> give me a few minutes (dialup... sigh...)
[08:15] <Ca0s> tnks
[08:15] <ZtingeR> Well, im off while the CD is downloaded. Thanx for the help, c ya
[08:15] <ivan> digitalbc simple?
[08:15] <Pelo> daquino,  restart x
[08:15] <snipex> ppl does cedega work on linux ubuntu dapper drake ???
[08:15] <daquino> Pelo:  tried that
[08:16] <fuzzy_logic> Sub0n1: you have to go to the official site of gparted (search on google for it), and download the iso cd, burn a cd and boot from it.. that way you will be able to resize it
[08:16] <daquino> Pelo:  and x is configured for usb mice so that shouldn't be the problem
[08:16] <daquino> its something iwth the systems auto detect
[08:16] <fuzzy_logic> Bllz:ok
[08:16] <SubOn1> fuzzy_logic: ah ok perfect ty
[08:16] <daquino> hot pluggin wahtever
[08:16] <Pelo> daquino,  thre is a command to restart the usb manager thingy but I don'T know what it is
[08:16] <Aviel15> download thas?
[08:16] <Aviel15>  http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ubuntu-7.04-server-i386.iso
[08:16] <fuzzy_logic> Sub0n1: np :)
[08:16] <fuzzy_logic> Aviel15: yes
[08:16] <magnetron> snipex: you will have to ask Cedega about that. i can recommend you to use Wine instead
[08:16] <Aviel15> k man
[08:16] <Aviel15> come private
[08:16] <Aviel15> i need alot help
[08:16] <hippie> HELP!!!! upgraded to 7.04 and none of my music works!
[08:16] <snipex> magnetron : i got a problem with it
[08:17] <annulus> hippie buy a mac ^_^
[08:17] <bensode> nevermind found my own boo-boo
[08:17] <magnetron> ask the channel about it, snipex
[08:17] <Pelo> !mp3 | hippie
[08:17] <ubotu> hippie: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:17] <bensode> helps to enable the correct repository ...
[08:17] <SubOn1> fuzzy_logic: do you know if it will resize an NTFS partition?
[08:17] <Pelo> !sound | hippie
[08:17] <ubotu> hippie: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:17] <fuzzy_logic> Sub0n1: it will
[08:17] <hippie> thx
[08:17] <Pelo> hippie,  also check your speaker connection
[08:18] <newuser> anyone know how to change brightness/contrast?
[08:18] <SlashLife> err.
[08:18] <SlashLife> err?
[08:18] <SlashLife> err!
[08:18] <SlashLife> err... O_o
[08:18] <fuzzy_logic> newuser: just with your monitor settings i guess?
[08:18] <Pelo> newuser, check in the forum
[08:18] <hippie> my stereo connection is fine..... it just wont play any of my music, nither xmms or amarok work
[08:18] <Pelo> SlashLife,  can we help you with something ?
[08:18] <hippie> thx for the links
[08:18] <frojnd> why would start screen saver even though I am watching movie in full screen mode ??
[08:18] <newuser> sorry i did...but all i found is support for laptops
[08:18] <SlashLife> Pelo: fuzzy_logic already translated it. :)
[08:19] <fuzzy_logic> SlashLife: translated what??
[08:19] <Pelo> frojnd,  because they are unrelated , mplyer has a function to stop the x screensaver from starting, check in the prefs
[08:19] <StrongArm__> I have a visio diagram, is it possible edit it, if so, with what?
[08:19] <J_P> hi all
[08:20] <SlashLife> Fujitsu: Four lines of mumbling at newuser. :>
[08:20] <fuzzy_logic> hi J_P
[08:20] <Ca0s> hi, some body can help me =D
[08:20] <SlashLife> fuzzy_logic: Err... see above.
[08:20] <Kryczek> hi guys! sorry to bother you (as a last recourse) but I have this annoying problem since recently with my Ubuntu install: every time I boot the PCM is muted, and I have to go in alsamixer to unmute it and raise the volume from 0 to something usable... It used to work before, and I tried to enforce saving the alsa state with "alsactl store", but it doesn't change anything: something is muting my soundcard every time I boot, and it's only since recently
[08:20] <Kryczek> any idea why? :)
[08:20] <Ca0s> kernel panic - not syncing: vfc unable to moount root fs unknown-block   =(
[08:20] <hippie> any fixes for this damn headache inducing refresh rate..... I had 75hz in 6.06 but cant go no higher than 60Hz in 7.04... video card is nVIDIA GeForce4
[08:20] <scott_> hmm
[08:21] <frojnd> Pelo: I am using VLC player, and the funniest thing is this wasn't my problem before, now on all the sudden x changes to screen saver,...
[08:21] <Pelo> Kryczek,  corret the problem and save your session in  menu >`system > prefs> sessions 3rd tab
[08:21] <scott_> !broadcom
[08:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:21] <J_P> Anyone know hoe open a diferent session in gnome ? I would like some like as CTRL+AL+F8 oher X to get a remote desktop and in default CTRL+ALT+F7 my native GUI...
[08:21] <Kryczek> Pelo: I'm using Kubuntu actually, but I suppose all that does is call "alsactl store"
[08:21] <Pelo> frojnd,  I think vlc also has that function,  but ask in the #vlc channel, they will probably know better
[08:22] <Pelo> Kryczek, try asking in #kubuntu
[08:22] <Kryczek> Pelo: it's not KDE related :)
[08:22] <predaeus> hippie, do you have an LCD or TFT monitor or do you have a CRT monitor?
[08:22] <frojnd> Pelo: um well there is only me on #vlc channel
[08:22] <Pelo> Kryczek, no but they will probably know better where the thingy you need to doodle is
[08:23] <t2_> hi,  my mic is not working on kubuntu.. i have full-duplex turned on int kde control center and the mic is not muted in Kmix..  I am testing the mic with Krec audio recorder program and getting no output when i play a recorded sound.  can someone please point me to a simple method as i found 10's of troubleshooting commands on the net i have no idea how to decipher them
[08:23] <mzanfardino> can someone suggest a tool for editing PDF files?
[08:23] <Aviel15> yay
[08:23] <Aviel15> ubuntu compelete
[08:23] <hippie> crappy old CRT.... used to run 75Hz just fine, but now it wont let me go higher than 60Hz witch = one massive headache
[08:23] <Aviel15> i on the new desktop
[08:23] <Pelo> frojnd, they have a channel somewhere,  #vic is probably not the correct name for it , maybe it's on an other network,  chek on their site
[08:23] <Aviel15> what to do on start??
[08:23] <fuzzy_logic> t2_: try asking in #kubuntu, that's the place for kubuntu questions
[08:24] <Aviel15> i in my new ubuntu after format
[08:24] <Aviel15> what need to do on start?
[08:24] <Pelo> Aviel15, is it iinstalled ?
[08:24] <fuzzy_logic> Aviel15: what do you mean?
[08:24] <t2_> fuzzy_logic: i actually have xubuntu then installed kde on top.  anyway ill ask there
[08:24] <Kryczek> t2_: try "alsamixer" on the command line, and use 'm' and 'M' keys
[08:24] <J_P> hi all comeback
[08:25] <predaeus> hippie, did you install the legacy drivers? I think you need them for the geforce4. Also you can specify refresh rate like so "1280x1024_60" (or "_75") in xorg.conf.
[08:25] <Kryczek> predaeus: no, legacy drivers are for the TNT2
[08:25] <hippie> I have the glx driver
[08:25] <Kryczek> I have normal drivers with a gf3 :)
[08:25] <predaeus> ok
[08:25] <hippie> non legacy has alwase worked good in the pase
[08:25] <EricB> has anyone tried playing Counter-Strike 1.6 using wine?
[08:26] <Pelo> EricB,  ask in #winehq
[08:26] <EricB> Pelo, ty
[08:26] <xNinja> EricB what about bf2 ?
[08:26] <predaeus> hippie, did you try to set the refresh rate like above?
[08:26] <hippie> not yet... working on it
[08:26] <Aviel15> i need security?
[08:26] <EricB> xNinja, I haven't tried it
[08:26] <Aviel15> or some updates
[08:26] <Aviel15> idk its new ubuntu
[08:26] <Aviel15> i write from my own pc
[08:27] <xNinja> EricB i see
[08:27] <EricB> xNinja, have you?
[08:27] <Pelo> Aviel15,  waht is your native language ?
[08:27] <Aviel15> hebrew
[08:27] <predaeus> !enter
[08:27] <Pelo> do we have an hebrew channel ?
[08:27] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:27] <SqrlKng> Hey, can someone help me out with the command to update the nvidia kernel?
[08:27] <xNinja> i did before maybe 5 months but was running with a very bad resolution.....640x!
[08:27] <dxdemetriou> it's ok to use automatix2 with feisty? I ask to know if I'll continue to have my os that is from breezy
[08:27] <xNinja> and everythings in low
[08:28] <Aviel15> lalalalalalala
[08:28] <Pelo> !he | Aviel15
[08:28] <ubotu> Aviel15:         :
[08:28] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[08:28] <Aviel15> 
[08:28] <Aviel15> 
[08:28] <Aviel15> what?
[08:28] <Aviel15> thx
[08:28] <Aviel15> thx alot
[08:28] <Pelo> Aviel15,  just thought you would have an easier time of it there
[08:29] <Aviel15> :)
[08:29] <pixelation> How do you CD to desktop?
[08:29] <predaeus> pixelation, cd ~/Desktop
[08:29] <cybybuddy> what is the difference: TFT and WXGA?
[08:29] <hippie> wtf?.... my xorg.conf is blank!
[08:29] <Pelo> pixelation,   cd Desktop
[08:29] <pixelation> Thanks
[08:29] <cybybuddy> what is better?
[08:29] <Aviel15> no 1 there
[08:29] <Aviel15> so help me here
[08:29] <Pelo> hippie,    wrong file     /etc/X11/xorg.conf    as in X one one
[08:29] <Aviel15> hmm
[08:30] <Aviel15> i just now install the ubuntu
[08:30] <Aviel15> what i need to to
[08:30] <Pelo> Aviel15,  what do you need help with,  we need specific questions
[08:30] <Aviel15> update?
[08:30] <hippie> thats the one
[08:30] <Aviel15> security?
[08:30] <Aviel15> firewall
[08:30] <hippie> its blank
[08:30] <esanchez> ola
[08:30] <fuzzy_logic> Aviel15: nothing really :) just use it
[08:30] <cybybuddy> what is the difference: TFT and WXGA? somebody knows?
[08:30] <Pelo> Aviel15, you don'T need to update anything,   updates are automatic when needed
[08:30] <pixelation> I mean how do you CD to desktop under Root?
[08:30] <jnunez> ola
[08:30] <jnunez> elena estas?
[08:31] <esanchez> siqa
[08:31] <esanchez> si aki
[08:31] <jnunez> ok!!
[08:31] <Pelo> pixelation,  depends on which desktop you need , your /home / user /desktop ?    cd /home/user/Desktop
[08:31] <ompaul> !root | pixelation
[08:31] <ubotu> pixelation: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[08:31] <pixelation> The one with the wallpaper?
[08:31] <Pelo> ompaul, read the questions first
[08:31] <jnunez> abla en espaol
[08:31] <jnunez> jaja
[08:31] <esanchez> eso digo yo
[08:31] <esanchez> en espaol
[08:31] <esanchez> !!
[08:31] <jnunez> jaja
[08:31] <ompaul> !es
[08:31] <Pelo> pixelation,   the last command I gave your  cd /home/usernamehere/Desktop
[08:31] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:31] <drawsoek> ps ahi esta el ubuntu-es
[08:32] <Pelo> !es | esanchez jnunez
[08:32] <ubotu> esanchez jnunez: please see above
[08:32] <jnunez> k?
[08:32] <pixelation> Thanks
[08:32] <jnunez> no te entiendo
[08:32] <Decoy> hey there!
[08:32] <jnunez> en espaol plis
[08:32] <Any_xika> hello!!
[08:32] <Pelo> !es | esanchez jnunez
[08:32] <ubotu> esanchez jnunez: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:32] <drawsoek> Que para soporte en espaol usa #ubuntu-es
[08:32] <esanchez> ola!! ana!
[08:32] <jnunez> hello!!
[08:32] <Picii> jnunez : escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[08:32] <Picii> or that works too
[08:32] <Kyler> I've been working on a custom Ubuntu LiveCD.  That's gone well but now I need to make a DVD.
[08:33] <Decoy> Are there any girls amoung us?
[08:33] <Pelo> Decoy, this isnT' taht kind of channel
[08:34] <Decoy> ok, sorry
[08:34] <fuzzy_logic> Decoy: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:34] <gerro> doing alternate cd install and it says "Your installation CD-ROM couldn't be mounted. This proably means that the CD-ROM was not in the drive. if so you can insert it and try again." if it wasn't in the drive then *HOW* did I get to this message in the first place!? what a stupid error message
[08:34] <Picii> o.o
[08:34] <Decoy> ok, thanks
[08:34] <magnetron> gerro: maybe you damaged the cd
[08:34] <Decoy> sorry again)
[08:34] <Pelo> gerro,  look up the error msg in the forum ,  there is a fix for it
[08:35] <gerro> magnetron: nope its working and that is no excuse for such a bogus and confused error
[08:35] <mylogic> hung over at work, bleh
[08:35] <Jamesbond84> I've got a Ubuntu live CD but I can't set the resolution higher the 800x600?
[08:35] <scott_> grhrhr
[08:35] <Ruckus> Can some one please help me with getting menu's with dvdauthor? My menu seems to just loop and never draws the buttons. My dvdauthor xml file can be seen here: http://pastebin.archlinux.org/5801M
[08:35] <magnetron> gerro: if you got an error, then maybe the cd is damaged. verify it
[08:35] <domas> whee, booted up install on new parallels
[08:35] <Pelo> Jamesbond84,  that is often the case , you'll be able to fix it after you have installed
[08:36] <domas> every ubuntu install is different experience :)
[08:36] <scott_> have a laptop here.. swapped out the BC43XX wireless card for something a little more complaint, an intel 2100.. but I can't get the wireless light to come on or the card to actually turn "on" any suggestions????
[08:36] <gerro> magnetron: there is no error message, it simply says the cd is not there but HOW can it not be there if its actually able to respond with ANY sort of information I mean it is responding it can't say itself does not exist
[08:36] <Jamesbond84> Pelo: really... was the reason why I didn't want to install.
[08:36] <pha|con> domas: mine always go thusly:  install, use for about 3 months before i get bored, screw around with obscure things until it breaks, repeat
[08:36] <aldin> how to install real player?
[08:36] <ompaul> !broadcom | scott_
[08:37] <ubotu> scott_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:37] <scott_> ompaul, its no longer a broadcom
[08:37] <magnetron> gerro: a strange error message, still an error message
[08:37] <domas> pha|con: I have >15 virtual machines on my mac :)
[08:37] <ompaul> scott_, it is all wireless there
[08:37] <gerro> magnetron: its worse than the remount and continously format error message when I try to install from live cd
[08:37] <Jamesbond84> are the Sony Ericsson K800i drivers for Ubuntu?
[08:37] <scott_> ompaul yeah looking around there for the last hour.. this is specific to the mobo in the gateway
[08:37] <Celt> Can anyone here help with a connection issue involving Kopete?
[08:37] <pha|con> domas: my laptop is my ubuntu playground, so i can't really do that effectively
[08:37] <gerro> magnetron: I hate mounting :(
[08:38] <dxdemetriou> If I install a program from debian that is not in apt and later added but with different install locations, will be a problem or it'll be fixed?
[08:38] <pha|con> domas: most of the screwing around i do is via ssh from my slack box
[08:38] <scott_> ompaul, as far as "supported?" the section says "Works great" etc. but I am unable to actually "activate' the wireless card
[08:38] <domas> hehe
[08:38] <magnetron> gerro: who said anything about mounting? just verify the cd
[08:38] <pha|con> or work
[08:38] <scott_> ompaul, nothing in dmesg about it turning on or off either
[08:38] <ompaul> scott_, you got a physical button to turn it on or off?
[08:39] <scott_> ompaul, function hot key (fn f2)
[08:39] <Jamesbond84> >
[08:39] <Jamesbond84> ?
[08:39] <ompaul> scott_, then I have no idea hit the mailing list (sounder) or the forums
[08:39] <scott_> ompaul, got "eth2 Radio is disabled by RF Switch" from dmesg
[08:39] <ompaul> scott_, be aware that the help section of one is reflected in the other
[08:39] <domas> pha|con: well, I also ssh into VMs
[08:40] <ompaul> scott_, I know little or nothing about wireless :-(
[08:40] <domas> sometimes when I'm working, I end up having quite a few of them running
[08:40] <scott_> \ompk thx
[08:40] <scott_> ompaul, k thanks!
[08:40] <domas> +++ for ubuntu for games in installer :)
[08:40] <pha|con> domas: if i could i would, but the laptop doesn't have the power for that.  for the most part i use it as a proxy/x11 server for my gf and i cause our work connections are heavily filtered
[08:41] <Jamesbond84> is it possible to use your 3g phone as a modem?
[08:41] <domas> =)
[08:41] <domas> hehe
[08:41] <gerro> magnetron: it says its either using firewire cd or symbolic link for sr0 is messed up
[08:41] <gerro> magnetron: and I am completely lost on what is going on can I just do a usb install??
[08:41] <domas> pha|con: my macbook is newer generation than my imac :(
[08:41] <gerro> !usbinstall
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usbinstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <gerro> !flashinstall
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashinstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <magnetron> !install > gerro
[08:41] <Jamesbond84> yes, no??
[08:42] <magnetron> Jamesbond84: yes, but it depends on your mobile phone. if you use bluetooth, it will most likely work. usb - depends on the manufacturer
[08:43] <Jamesbond84> magnetron: thanks.
[08:44] <imbecile> was there a netsplit?
[08:45] <cobra306> can anybody tell how to use 3D acceleration in Mesa driver that comes with ubuntu ?
[08:45] <imbecile> oh nm
[08:45] <Jonny> i got the same problem cobra
[08:45] <Jonny> well, i installed some things a friend told me to do
[08:45] <Jonny> now i get a weird error
[08:45] <cobra306> fglrx has it enabled but beryl works weird
[08:45] <Jack_Sparrow> how did you install them?
[08:45] <Jonny> root@jonny-laptop:/home/jonny/Tibia# ./Tibia
[08:45] <Dutchy> Can anyone tell me how i mount specific things (such as smb shares) as a user instead of root? i need it for write-enabled windows shares
[08:45] <Jonny> Mesa 6.5.2 implementation error: In _mesa_DeleteHashTable, found non-freed data
[08:45] <Jonny> Please report at bugzilla.freedesktop.org
[08:46] <colbert> !sensors
[08:46] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[08:46] <surviver> dutchy, try chown
[08:46] <cobra306> well i just wanted the open source driver for getting beryl working
[08:46] <Mountaingod> Ok, I've got a fairly deep problem here that ubuntu caused and I don't think I can rectify it. My laptop originally came with no WinXP disk, but instead a 4gb 'hidden' partition with all the data required to revert everything to factory defaults. After installing Feisty and giving it a new partition, I now find Packard Bell's reversion program can't get to it's hidden partition to reset my...
[08:46] <Mountaingod> ...laptop, even though I was careful not to touch it in the repartitioning! Ubuntu has done something to cause this, I want to know how to reverse it.
[08:46] <magnetron> Dutchy: use the places > connect to server shortcut in Gnome
[08:46] <cobra306> but it hasnt the 3D acceleration i need for games and things like that
[08:46] <surviver> dutchy, chown -R $USER: /the root
[08:46] <Dutchy> surviver: operation not permitted
[08:46] <cobra306> i use an ATI Mobility Radeon X700
[08:47] <wiglaf> I'm looking for help getting wifi up and running on a Dapper laptop using a DLink cardbus adaptor...can anyone help?
[08:47] <Jonny> When i try to start up a game, i get this error Mesa 6.5.2 implementation error: In _mesa_DeleteHashTable, found non-freed data
[08:47] <gerro> anyone here know how to install xubuntu or ubuntu anything on a dell latitude c640 or any latitude?
[08:47] <magnetron> !ask | wiglaf
[08:47] <ubotu> wiglaf: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:47] <wiglaf> thanks Magnetron
[08:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Mountaingod: How did you set the partition?
[08:47] <Dutchy> magnetron: does that mount? ie. can i have programs use it?
[08:47] <Jonny> i got a dell latitude D510
[08:47] <cobra306> help us there was someone that said that Mesa driver supported 3D in ATI
[08:48] <magnetron> Dutchy: try it
[08:48] <Jonny> Mesa 6.5.2 implementation error: In _mesa_DeleteHashTable, found non-freed data2
[08:48] <wiglaf> Jonny...just fire in the CD! Dells use well-supported hardware
[08:48] <scoobydoo28139> does ubuntu suport touch screen?
[08:48] <Jonny> Wiglaf i know, it was the other guy who asked
[08:48] <wiglaf> ah, sorry
[08:48] <magnetron> !hardware
[08:48] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:48] <Jonny> gerro i think
[08:49] <jvolkman> is there a way to configure ssh to set my terminal window's title to something meaningful?
[08:49] <gerro> Jonny: heeelp me plzzzz
[08:49] <Jonny> gerro, it should just work
[08:49] <eljak> scoobydoo28139, i think better ask if xorg supports touch screens check you xorg.conf
[08:49] <gerro> Jonny: the cdrom can be switched with a floppy drive because it has a docking bay and I think it uses firewire to connect that so cdrom can't detect itself and it has all these screwed up options in bios
[08:49] <Jonny> mhm
[08:49] <scoobydoo28139> tks,,looking now
[08:50] <Jonny> gerro, not sure on that then
[08:50] <magnetron> jvolkman: you could configure gnome-terminal to use any title you want
[08:50] <gerro> Jonny: and it lags up for a good half hour complaining floppy is missing because its replaced with cdrom
[08:50] <wiglaf> gerro: is there a boot from CD option in BIOS, despite the mess?
[08:50] <gerro> wiglaf: it is booting from cd
[08:50] <jvolkman> magnetron, right, but i'd rather have it done automatically when I ssh to a host
[08:50] <Mountaingod> Jack_Sparrow: I used the default partitioning system that comes with the Feisty disk. I shortened the windows partition and used the free space to make an ubuntu partition. I was careful not to touch this 4gb 'hidden' partition that I knew I needed should I want to reset my laptop. I think it's GRUB that's causing it; the Packard Bell program tells me the hidden partition isn't there but I...
[08:50] <Mountaingod> ...know it is./] 
[08:50] <wietz0r> is there a dreamweaver clone for linux ?
[08:51] <Jonny> Anyone know how to fix this error? when i load a game i get this "Mesa 6.5.2 implementation error: In _mesa_DeleteHashTable, found non-freed data
[08:51] <Jonny> "
[08:51] <wiglaf> gerro: do you have access to floppies? you could do a network install
[08:51] <gerro> wiglaf: regular cd complains about fb0 and sr0 buffer I/O errors then eventually gives me an ash prompt, while alternate cd can't detect the cd to mount it
[08:51] <wiglaf> gerro: or you could install from Knoppix, if you can get knoppix running
[08:51] <gerro> wiglaf: network install? yes I have floppies if they will work with this weird swappable cdrom/floppy drive thing
[08:51] <wiglaf> gerro: i had the same problems with the alt CD
[08:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Mountaingod: You can always get back to windows by fdisk /mbr but that will kill off grub
[08:52] <wiglaf> gerro: there are some great docs in the wiki that will lead you through these other installs
[08:52] <magnetron> !install > gerro
[08:52] <Dutchy> magnetron: do those mounts appear anywhere on my filesystem? i need amarok to find it
[08:52] <Mountaingod> Hmm... So that would revert my bootloading back to what it was before ubuntu?
[08:52] <Mountaingod> (Jack_Sparrow)
[08:52] <gerro> wiglaf: already reading it... I just wish those install method were actually supported and didn't contain examples from ubuntu 1.0
[08:53] <magnetron> Dutchy: it's in the VFS
[08:53] <gerro> wiglaf: and most them assume weird dual boot methods and other crap when I just want a standard ubuntu setup
[08:53] <magnetron> Dutchy: try
[08:53] <ComputinChuck> i've got a library of ogg files that i want to put on an ipod.  i know rhythmbox can encode ogg to mp3 on-the-fly but so far i've only been able to get it to encode 128-bit mp3s.  is there any way to change the settings for this process?
[08:53] <gerro> wiglaf well actually xubuntu
[08:53] <Jonny> Anyone know how to fix this error? when i load a game i get this "Mesa 6.5.2 implementation error: In _mesa_DeleteHashTable, found non-freed data
[08:53] <wiglaf> gerro: yeah, it can be confusing...so you can't get a liveCD up at all? can you boot from USB?
[08:53] <Dutchy> magnetron: VFS?
[08:54] <magnetron> Dutchy: did you try it or not?
[08:54] <Dutchy> i did
[08:54] <Dutchy> i need to know if it appears anywhere in /
[08:54] <magnetron> Dutchy: what happened?
[08:54] <raymondjtoth> whats a good dvd player for ubutnu i have vlc
[08:54] <mon^rch> how do i get gwenview to display .jpg's?
[08:54] <mon^rch> please
[08:54] <raymondjtoth> but any good one
[08:54] <Dutchy> amarok lets me select a folder anywhere in /
[08:55] <Dutchy> i can see it in nautilus but thats not what i need
[08:55] <raymondjtoth> ?
[08:55] <cman325> Do any video players set themselves up as the wallpaper like vlc for windows
[08:55] <Aviel15> hey
[08:55] <Jonny> no one knows my problem?
[08:55] <Aviel15> can i get suppot?
[08:55] <calc> cman325: maybe vlc for linux..?
[08:55] <cman325> Calc: nope
[08:55] <calc> cman325: vlc was on linux before windows afaik
[08:55] <raymondjtoth> any one know of good dvd player for ubuntu besides vlc i want the best
[08:55] <detgar> Jonny: what game?
[08:56] <calc> cman325: you can't set vlc to display on the root window?
[08:56] <Dutchy> and i dont know what a VFS is, im guessing virtual file system which would mean its not anywhere in /
[08:56] <Jonny> TIbia
[08:56] <Jonny> Tibia*
[08:56] <detgar> Jonny
[08:56] <calc> raymondjtoth: totem, mplayer, xine all work great too
[08:56] <gerro> wiglaf: I don't even know if I can boot from usb the thing has usb 1.0 support and I don't know about 2.0 it also lists a bunch of jibbery named ports and network protocols for boot methods
[08:56] <detgar> jonny: don't know anything about that, sorry
[08:56] <Jonny> ok ;'(
[08:56] <raymondjtoth> calc im talking dvd to watch i bought all mine
[08:57] <wiglaf> gerro: and you can't use the CD and 1.44 floppy at the same time, can you?
[08:57] <calc> raymondjtoth: they can all play dvd's with the right library installed
[08:57] <magnetron> Dutchy: using that method will put it in the Gnome VFS, virtual file system.
[08:57] <cman325> calc: I can fullscreen but I can't set it as my wallpaper
[08:57] <gerro> wiglaf: no and I'm not certain if floppy will work either
[08:57] <raymondjtoth> calc any software
[08:57] <raymondjtoth> ;like vlc is
[08:57] <cman325> calc: I guess it's just a win thing
[08:57] <Aviel15> can i get support?
[08:57] <stefg> !best
[08:57] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:57] <raymondjtoth> !support
[08:57] <Dutchy> magnetron: i need to access it through a kde application, getting my point?
[08:57] <ubotu> support is The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[08:57] <calc> cman325: it should be doable but i haven't used vlc in a long time
[08:57] <magnetron> !ask | Aviel15
[08:57] <ubotu> Aviel15: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:58] <stefg> !ask | Aviel15
[08:58] <raymondjtoth> calc any other software
[08:58] <wiglaf> gerro: do you have it on quiet boot? I'm wondering what the readout is when the BIOS looks for the CD drive
[08:58] <raymondjtoth> like vlc is
[08:58] <calc> cman325: you would need to look if there is an option for it to run on the root window (i think that is the term)
[08:58] <incorrect> has anyone built a shared fs system with ubuntu
[08:58] <incorrect> maybe with gfs?
[08:58] <raymondjtoth> !ask
[08:58] <gerro> wiglaf: do you know of any dell latitude c640 issues on ubuntu forum or elsewhere?
[08:58] <raymondjtoth> !ask
[08:58] <cman325> calc: THanks I'll check it out and hit the vlc website.
[08:58] <incorrect> !moo
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <wiglaf> gerro: I've never looked, sorry
[08:58] <LGKeiz> moo: os: Microsoft Windows XP Professional - Service Pack 2 (5.1.2600) up: 3days 4hrs 21mins 55secs cpu: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz at 1993MHz (7% Load) gfx: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000 128MB res: 1024x768 32bit 60Hz ram: 971/1535MB (63.24%) [||||||----]  hdd: C:\ 59.91GB/111.76GB net: Wireless-G PCI Adapter with SRX400 - 108MB/s -1GB In 379.59MB Out
[08:58] <calc> raymondjtoth: you just need the css library installed for those other players to play bought dvd's
[08:58] <raymondjtoth> !ask
[08:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:58] <Jonbo> moo: os: Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate - (6.0.6000) up: 17hrs 38mins 11secs cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz at 2399MHz (8% Load) gfx: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB res: 1680x1050 32bit 59Hz ram: 955/2045.9MB (46.69%) [|||||-----]  hdd: C:\ 207.71GB/298.09GB D:\ 234.73GB/298.09GB net: NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller - 100MB/s 907.26MB In 256.38MB Out
[08:58] <gerro> wiglaf: have what on quiet boot?
[08:59] <raymondjtoth> calc want to learn how to install software since new
[08:59] <wiglaf> gerro: the BIOS...when you turn it on, do you get a screen with a bunch of tests happening?
[08:59] <Jack_Sparrow> gerro I am running c640 here
[08:59] <raymondjtoth> that why i ask for software
[08:59] <bluezio> hello, I got my IPN2220 wifi card working with no encryption and WEP, but WPA is having problems: network-admin never worked for me, and wpa_supplicant with -dd says "Association request to the driver failed". Any tips?
[08:59] <Jack_Sparrow> gerro I am running c640 here sorry I missed your earlier question
[08:59] <mon^rch> how do i get gwenview to display .jpg's?
[09:00] <raymondjtoth> cal understand
[09:00] <gerro> Jack_Sparrow: how did you install linux on it!?
[09:00] <Jack_Sparrow> I just dropped in a cd
[09:01] <Jack_Sparrow> gerro I did have to burn a new cd off the origianl but at a slower speed, I kept getting odd errors
[09:01] <raymondjtoth> !calc
[09:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about calc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <wiglaf> is there a program/package that will help me find my cardbus wifi adaptor and install it?
[09:02] <raymondjtoth> calc?
[09:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !wifi
[09:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:02] <gerro> Jack_Sparrow: well I'm trying to put xubuntu on it and it has alternate or live cd install which should I use?
[09:02] <Jack_Sparrow> gerro, I had no problem with Ubuntu Live
[09:03] <Jack_Sparrow> gerro, I did have to burn the image slower than 24
[09:03] <Jack_Sparrow> gerro, are you getting errors or what?
[09:03] <raymondjtoth> any one know what a good dvd plaer is in ubuntu diont use vlc much want the best program
[09:03] <gerro> Jack_Sparrow: I have ubuntu live and it works on several computers and has no defects, I did burn that slower than 24 but just because I'm paranoid
[09:03] <incorrect> !gfs
[09:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <raymondjtoth> ?
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> gerro, Where are you hanging up?
[09:04] <gerro> Jack_Sparrow: I keep getting buffer I/O error for fb0 and sr0 several of them streaming down screen after waiting a long while then it gives an ash prompt
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> gerro, that is exactly what I was getting, even thought it would verify..
[09:04] <raymondjtoth> !dvd
[09:04] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Burn it even slower.
[09:04] <ripster> hi all
[09:05] <stefg> gerro: dirty drive?
[09:05] <gerro> stefg: perhaps, I mean it is an old laptop and my friend got it used from someone
[09:05] <Jack_Sparrow> stefg:  THey have a drive rated at 24 but it dosent xfer well.
[09:05] <incorrect> has anyone simulated a shared fs under vmware
[09:06] <randoman> hey does anyone know why i get  black screen when running gnome after running
[09:06] <randoman>  aptitude install ub
[09:06] <randoman> ?
[09:06] <christoph__> Hello, I have a problem with samba shared folders
[09:06] <Jack_Sparrow> gerro, I am fighting my wat through the ATI mobility 7500 drivers... xorg sees it as a 9000
[09:07] <largos> has anyone in here had success with installing phppgadmin in ubuntu?
[09:07] <stefg> incorrect: that better goes to #vmware and iirc with the 1.x series player the shared fs was broken
[09:07] <christoph__> When I copy/move an existent file to the share, it's modified time is changed... even though the file is the same.
[09:07] <randoman> aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[09:07] <randoman> sorry
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> gerro here is the best link I have on that so far..
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-32015.html
[09:07] <gerro> Jack_Sparrow: for ati or the cd?
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> ati
[09:08] <gerro> Jack_Sparrow:  I can't manage to get anything installed so don't know if I should even bother with the ati
[09:08] <Jack_Sparrow> gerro It took forever to find someone with a solution for the error we had/have
[09:08] <gerro> Jack_Sparrow: this one has ati radeon 7500 though
[09:08] <Dutchy> so is there anyone who can help me? what i have is a share on my server (be it smb or ftp), and i want to mount it on ~/myshare/ and i want my user to be able to write it, is there anyone who knows how to do that?
[09:08] <christoph__> This also happens when I move I file from a windows computer to samba
[09:08] <gerro> Jack_Sparrow: what was the solution?
[09:08] <Jack_Sparrow> I have the same 7500 but the xorg will show 9000
[09:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Burn the cd very slow....
[09:08] <Jonny> Anyone here know the problem to this?Mesa 6.5.2 implementation error: In _mesa_DeleteHashTable, found non-freed data
[09:09] <largos> Dutchy: you may need to look into Fuse if you want to mount ftp as a local file system
[09:09] <Jack_Sparrow> and verify the md5
[09:09] <christoph__> Any ideas?
[09:09] <Dutchy> largos: didnt work :| it gives my user a permission denied
[09:09] <gerro> ok then
[09:09] <stefg> gerro: got a usb port on the machine? There's a way to install from a USB drive, if the optical drive is so unreiliable
[09:09] <Hojjat> Hi all, I got stock with boot loader issues. I need help
[09:09] <Dutchy> largos: the point was that i want my user to write, i've succesfully mounted as root
[09:10] <christoph__> Can anyone help me with my problem?
[09:10] <largos> Dutchy: sorry, I just tuned in and didn't see your actual problem.
[09:10] <dyrne> Dutchy: smbfs as the type in fstab should work. ive never dont it but i think  a line like \\computername\share  /mnt/point  smbfs  users,defaults  0  0   though im not sure and i dunno about read/write access. never used samba
[09:10] <Pirate_Hunter> hi ppl is there a download manager for ubuntu that provides multiple connections to the same ip or domain, ive tried the ones available and they dont provide that
[09:10] <Aviel15> how i can install proftpd guys?
[09:11] <TenerifeDave> i have a problem, i cannot get my wireless networking working :(
[09:11] <christoph__> OK, noone can help me... Bye
[09:11] <dyrne> Dutchy: why am i talking to you?
[09:11] <Hojjat> I installed GRUB on hd0,1 (I didn't want it to touch MBR) now, when I use my own boot loader to activate that partition, nothing happens
[09:11] <dyrne> Jonny: nm :)
[09:11] <Dutchy> dyrne: that mounts as root
[09:12] <stefg> Hojjat: that's an unsupportable question, because you chose to use *your* boot-loader. Why is your mbr untouchable?
[09:12] <TenerifeDave> how would i know if i am connected to my wireless network?
[09:13] <Hojjat> I want to use BootMagic, because if I decided to format my linux partition, things would still work :)
[09:13] <Hojjat> I'm not a linux user but a tester/newcomer
[09:13] <Dutchy> damn, i would've figured mounting as non-root would be easier to find
[09:13] <TenerifeDave> anyone available to help me out please?
[09:13] <stefg> Hojjat: then seek support for boot magic... #ubuntu only supports grub
[09:13] <Hojjat> I prevsiouly had this experience of installing GRUB on the partition, not the MBR, and making it work afterwards
[09:14] <centaur5> The nvidia driver no longer works and I've tried reinstalling nvidia-glx-new and reconfiguring the xorg.conf file multiple times and still can't figure it out. What should I try next?
[09:14] <Hojjat> stefg, I'm pretty certain it has nothing to do with the third party boot loader. Just suppose I have installed GRUB on a partition not MBR (and GRUB supports it, doesn't it) now I have made that partition active, but GRUB doesn't appear. How is that?
[09:15] <IdleOne> TenerifeDave, unplug your wired connection and see if it stays online
[09:16] <nothingssomethin> where's the quee i need some help
[09:16] <stefg> Hojjat: that's obviously a problem of boot magic (doesn't chainload grub). So how should anyone in #ubuntu know?
[09:16] <IdleOne> nothingssomethin, no queue just ask
[09:16] <nothingssomethin> ok
[09:16] <cman325> Hojjat check out supergrub http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
[09:16] <Slasher> hey, i'm having an issue with my ati drivers...
[09:16] <nothingssomethin> here it goes
[09:16] <Hojjat> stefg I understand what you are thinking, but as I have done that previously with Fedora Core 5 etc, I'm sure it has nothing to do with Boot Magic
[09:17] <Slasher> glx programs give me "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0"."
[09:17] <Hojjat> Let me change my question: Suppose that I hve installed Ubuntu on hd0,1 and its swap on hd0,2 and suppose that I have installed GRUB on hd0,1. How can I boot to Linux then?
[09:17] <Slasher> they run skippy and i didn't see a solution on the forums
[09:18] <Meroveus> PreQuest (http://www.ccdc.cam.ac.uk/products/csd_system/prequest/) can be installed on RedHat, SuSE, Mandrake and Debian.. I can safely assume the installation would work smoothly on Ubuntu as well?
[09:18] <TenerifeDave> unplug my wired connection IdleOne ?
[09:18] <TenerifeDave> how would that say if im connected to my wireless
[09:18] <dotpavan> Slasher, skippy was known to crash on feisty-1, I guess it still doesnt work
[09:18] <TenerifeDave> i would get disconnected yes because im using the internet through my wired connection
[09:19] <IdleOne> TenerifeDave, you can also right click on the top panel and then click add to panel  window opens ) and then add the Network Manger Applet and it will give you some info
[09:19] <stefg> Hojjat: i can't help with your problem, only suggest to have a small separate grub partition (so you're not wiping menu.lst if you nuke the Linux-partition)
[09:19] <TheUni5> hi
[09:19] <Hojjat> cman325, thank you for th link
[09:19] <dotpavan> TenerifeDave, check the gnome-network-manager, or use ifconfig
[09:19] <Hojjat> stefg, thanks for that :)
[09:19] <TenerifeDave> ok well i've done that
[09:19] <IdleOne> TenerifeDave, if Ubuntu is using the wireless then it wont disconnect when you unplug the network wires
[09:20] <TenerifeDave> 85% signal strength but nothing recieved
[09:20] <NeXtDaY> I downloaded brusher for the gimp. where to put them? in which folder?
[09:20] <TenerifeDave> im using the internet through wired
[09:20] <ripster> what kind of irc client are you guys using?
[09:20] <Wolfwalker> Question: When I try to install Yahoo IM under wine in Ubuntu (version 6 LTS) it says Yahoo is requesting an Active X something and do I want to download it. WHen I say yes it tries to get it from winehq but fails. What's my next move?
[09:20] <TheUni5> I'll find out
[09:20] <Slasher> dotpavan, I mean the framerate is very low, like glxgears reports 1100 fps but doesn't look like more then 5fps
[09:20] <TenerifeDave> and want to set up shared internet through wireless
[09:20] <TenerifeDave> but doesnt seem to want to do it
[09:21] <Hojjat> All, where are the GRUB config files stored?
[09:21] <IdleOne> ripster, most ppl use Xchat or irssi there is also BitchX and several others search irc in synaptic
[09:21] <t2> hi, can improper connection of the F_AUDIO_PANEL on the motherboard (to get the audio ports at the front of computer case to work) affect the sound on a mic when it's connected DIRECTLY to the soundcard (ie not using front ports) ?   On feisty using krec the mic recording is extremely low, i have to turn on Mic boost and even then sound quality is poor.  Tried another mic and same issue.  or is this related to ubuntu sound configuration instead ?
[09:21] <dotpavan> Slasher, no idea, is this prob occuring using any other app?
[09:21] <erUSUL> Hojjat: /boot/grub/
[09:21] <cman325> Are there any DJ programs for ubuntu similar to Virtual DJ
[09:21] <Slasher> boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:21] <TenerifeDave> i followed this tutorial - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[09:21] <TenerifeDave> but nothing
[09:22] <Wolfwalker> |cman325:| Audacity doth rock mightily
[09:22] <witless> hi.  when i plug in my portable audio device, i don't get a window that opens showing the storage contents anymore.  how can i turn that back on?
[09:22] <Wolfwalker> Ugly as homemade sin on Ubuntu, but it works
[09:22] <Hojjat> erUSUL, Slasher, thank you :)
[09:22] <cman325> Wolfwalker any plugins you recommend?
[09:22] <Wolfwalker> Nope
[09:22] <Wolfwalker> Or try Ardour, a Jack plugin
[09:22] <RxDx> how can i enable the unstable actualizations on Feisty? like Kernel, Gnome, Pidgin... everything beta..
[09:22] <cman325> Cool Thanks
[09:23] <Wolfwalker> Question: When I try to install Yahoo IM under wine in Ubuntu (version 6 LTS) it says Yahoo is requesting an Active X something and do I want to download it. WHen I say yes it tries to get it from winehq but fails. What's my next move?
[09:23] <cman325> Ive used audacity for editing but not DJ'ing yet.
[09:23] <dotpavan> Wolfwalker, pidgin works great for y! IM
[09:23] <Nergar> hello
[09:23] <Pirate_Hunter> hi ppl is there a download manager for ubuntu that provides multiple connections to the same ip or domain, ive tried the ones available and they dont provide that
[09:23] <Wolfwalker> Pidgin doesn't allow file sending between it and real Yahoo IM
[09:24] <TabooTreez> anyone here using avant window navigator?
[09:24] <Slasher> dotpavan, I've other such problems with beryl, especially when playing video, i removed beryl and i was hoping to get direct rendering fixed before reinstalling it
[09:24] <erUSUL> Pirate_Hunter: d4x (gui) or axel (cli)
[09:24] <jack_> why are alll my shipit requests not getting approved
[09:24] <TabooTreez> when I run avant there a huge black box at the bottom of the screen that surround the dock
[09:25] <NeXtDaY> again:I downloaded brusher for the gimp. where to put them? in which folder? any help.. please
[09:25] <NeXtDaY> brushes even
[09:25] <Pirate_Hunter> erUSUL: I think ive got d4x havent tested it yet and ill look for axel... thanx for the info
[09:25] <Slasher> TabooTreez, you're not using a composite manager
[09:25] <alecw1> How can I uninstall a program from Wine?
[09:25] <dotpavan> Slasher, maybe you have disable the appropriate part in xorg.conf, I had a similar problem on dapper
[09:25] <TabooTreez> alecw1, ahhh. I have the nividia driver installed how would one enbale that?
[09:25] <TabooTreez> enable*
[09:25] <TabooTreez> woops
[09:25] <TabooTreez> Slasher, how would I enable composite. I use Nvidia.
[09:25] <erUSUL> Pirate_Hunter: no problem
[09:26] <alecw1> sudo nvidia-settings
[09:26] <erUSUL> !effects | TabooTreez
[09:26] <ubotu> TabooTreez: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[09:26] <Wolfwalker> I would be mad that nobody is paying attention to my question.......... but it's so busy here I can hardly blame you :/
[09:26] <maximum212> where can i download Wowscape
[09:26] <TabooTreez> found it
[09:26] <TabooTreez> thanks a lot
[09:26] <GrpdsH> does any one know about installing VPN's on ubuntu distro
[09:26] <Slasher> TabooTreez, if you're on feisty it comes with compiz as "desktop effects" under preferences
[09:26] <Slasher> just got there and enable
[09:26] <alecw1> How can I uninstall a Wine program? It does NOT have an uninstall.exe or anything.
[09:26] <Nergar> i need help, i just installed slackware on a different partition, but when i booted ubuntu back i got an fdisk error. Log : http://pastebin.com/936211
[09:27] <nothingssomethin> i have a dell laoptop and everything pretty much works fine , i am running ubuntu fistey (sorry if not spelled right) with the new update. on my latitude i have nvida gforce go graphics card witch includes a s video out on it .... issue:::........ i downloaded easy ubuntu and i said HEY GRAY it had my nvida drivers (choice from 2, 1 official 2 legacy) BY THE WAY THIS IS A CLEAN INSTALL"  so i install the drivedrs and everything se
[09:27] <Wolfwalker> |cman325:| so what exactly are you trying to do with this audio program?
[09:27] <nothingssomethin> sorry for flood
[09:27] <erUSUL> cman325: mixxx
[09:28] <Wolfwalker> |cman325:| You want to use it as a player, sequencer, tracker?
[09:28] <jaelae> wow the official ubuntu channel got huge
[09:28] <Nergar> anyone??
[09:28] <Wolfwalker> |jaelae:| Yeah, for real
[09:28] <IdleOne> jaelae, got? it has been :)
[09:28] <jaelae> in 3 years
[09:29] <alecw1> How can I uninstall a Wine program? It does NOT have an uninstall.exe or anything.
[09:29] <NeXtDaY> am I asking a tough question? ;-)
[09:29] <Wolfwalker> |jaelae:| Well Ubuntu has become massively popular as one of the most user-friendly Linux OSs
[09:29] <nothingssomethin> wjat is your question
[09:29] <erUSUL> !repeat | alecw1
[09:29] <ubotu> alecw1: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:29] <Wolfwalker> Popularity is such a burden :P
[09:29] <stewlatin> Hello?
[09:29] <jaelae> indeed
[09:29] <Wolfwalker> !patience
[09:29] <jaelae> definitely not a bad thing though
[09:29] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:29] <Wolfwalker> lol
[09:30] <Wolfwalker> Yeah, just need some spare channels
[09:30] <Wolfwalker> And some more people who know what they are doing to counter all the people (like me) who are new to this and haven't the slightest clue
[09:30] <Keanu> Hey, im getting extreemly slow transfer through my network..
[09:30] <jrib> NeXtDaY: http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-using-brushes.html
[09:31] <Keanu> Can anyone tell me a program to use.. OR Why im getting a slow transfer?
[09:31] <NeXtDaY> jrib thanks alot. I won't ask again :P
[09:31] <mentalederranged> hey dudes, I keep trying to install Ubuntu to an external hard drive. It seems succesful but GRUB won't load on my computer. Without the bootloader, I can't start ubuntu. Ideally, I'd like to be able to have the bootloader on the drive itself, but I have tried putting it on my main drive too. either way I get an error before GRUB even shows me any options. Any ideas?
[09:31] <nothingssomethin> i have a dell laoptop and everything pretty much works fine as far as hardware wise and orignal install goes , i am running ubuntu fistey (sorry if not spelled right) with the new update. on my latitude i have nvida gforce go graphics card witch includes a s video out on it .... issue:::........ i downloaded easy ubuntu and i said HEY GRAY it had my nvida drivers (choice from 2, 1 official 2 legacy) BY THE WAY THIS IS A CLEAN INST
[09:31] <jrib> NeXtDaY: it's ~/.gimp-2.2/brushes/  here
[09:32] <stewlatin> How do you run Compcomm in 7.04?
[09:32] <jrib> stewlatin: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:32] <stewlatin> ok
[09:32] <Keanu> Anyone? Can anyone help me with the network problem?
[09:32] <Nergar> i need help, i just installed slackware on a different partition, but when i booted ubuntu back i got an fdisk error. Log : http://pastebin.com/936211
[09:32] <NeXtDaY> jrib ok
[09:32] <pike_> Keanu: what was the problem again?
[09:33] <raymondjtoth> hi what eles do i got for dvd player i need somthing with close caption in it
[09:33] <raymondjtoth> hard of hearing in one ear
[09:33] <nothingssomethin> NeXtDaY did you probe your cmos for settings that alow it to boot from alternate os?????
[09:33] <raymondjtoth> vlc verson for ubuntu dont have close caption in it
[09:33] <Keanu> Well - I'm getting extreemly slow transfers through my network.. And was wondering if anyone could tell me why.. Or give me a program to allow me to transfer through my network? - Because iv got a 900MB file to transfer onto my ubunut pc.
[09:33] <raymondjtoth> will use it for other stuff
[09:33] <pike_> Keanu: cat /etc/resolv.conf and lemme know how manu nameservers ya see. also you might about:config in firefox and disable ipv6
[09:33] <Keanu> Okay, 2 secconds.
[09:33] <raymondjtoth> what i got
[09:33] <NeXtDaY> nothingssomethin: what?
[09:33] <dotpavan> raymondjtoth, if you have the .sub file, vlc works
[09:33] <youssef> Hello. I upgraded from Edgy to Feisty
[09:34] <Wolfwalker> Question: When I try to install Yahoo IM under wine in Ubuntu (version 6 LTS) it says Yahoo is requesting an Active X something and do I want to download it. WHen I say yes it tries to get it from winehq but fails. What's my next move?
[09:34] <youssef> and now it would not start (black screen)
[09:34] <raymondjtoth> dot i dont there stor bought dvd and need close caption (cc) like tv has
[09:34] <nothingssomethin> in your cmos
[09:34] <Keanu> Pike_ - It says 192.168.1.1
[09:34] <Keanu> Yet my network runs on 192.168.2.1
[09:35] <imbecile> is trevinos repo already in feisty or do i have to add it?
[09:35] <Keanu> anyway to change it?
[09:35] <NeXtDaY> nothingssomethin: you must be mistaken, my question was about gimp :)
[09:35] <nothingssomethin> there are boot options that allow or disable looking for other operating systems mostely on compaq's and old ones
[09:35] <raymondjtoth> what i got guys and gals
[09:35] <Nergar> so can anyone help me?
[09:35] <raymondjtoth> any help for me or im i out
[09:35] <dotpavan> Wolfwalker, you could try the activex part in this tutorial: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_internet_explorer_p2
[09:35] <mentalederranged>  hey dudes, I keep trying to install Ubuntu to an external hard drive. It seems succesful but GRUB won't load on my computer. Without the bootloader, I can't start ubuntu. Ideally, I'd like to be able to have the bootloader on the drive itself, but I have tried putting it on my main drive too. either way I get an error before GRUB even shows me any options. Any ideas?
[09:35] <raymondjtoth> :(
[09:35] <youssef> in failsafe, it tells me that "apt" is not installed
[09:36] <youssef> and that I should install it with apt-get
[09:36] <raymondjtoth> any one see my q:(
[09:36] <raymondjtoth> :(
[09:36] <nothingssomethin> oooh because that will not let it load any alternate bootloader  or kernal
[09:36] <dotpavan> !patience > raymondjtoth
[09:36] <TenerifeDave> question: i am having trouble setting up my wireless network, i want to share eth0 to wlan0 and followed this turtorial 'http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370' - but nothing! any help please?
[09:36] <Keanu> Pike_ - Did you get it?
[09:37] <Keanu> Or see it.
[09:37] <rodrigo__> alguem ai pode me ajuda
[09:37] <Tailsfan> Hello, Every time I try to shut down my PC, it just shows the Logo and bar empty, but it doesn't turn off my PC automatically, any ideas on how to fix this
[09:37] <youssef> I see that the channel is to busy, see you later
[09:37] <centaur5> I finally got the nvidia module to work but when I try to run glxgears it says "Xlib: extension GLX missing on display :0.0". How can I fix that?
[09:37] <jrib> !pt | rodrigo__
[09:37] <ubotu> rodrigo__: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:38] <Keanu> Can anyone tell me how to edit resolv.conf?
[09:38] <nothingssomethin> i have a dell laoptop and everything pretty much works fine , i am running ubuntu fistey (sorry if not spelled right) with the new update. on my latitude i have nvida gforce go graphics card witch includes a s video out on it .... issue:::........ i downloaded easy ubuntu and i said HEY GRAY it had my nvida drivers (choice from 2, 1 official 2 legacy) BY THE WAY THIS IS A CLEAN INSTALL"  so i install the drivedrs and everything se
[09:38] <youssef> keanu with mc?
[09:38] <buk> Geez.
[09:38] <raymondjtoth> !pt > rodrigo__
[09:38] <Keanu> I don't mind what.. I just need to edit a number.
[09:38] <nny> e
[09:38] <nny> ok so..
[09:38] <nny> i know !wireless works
[09:38] <Agip> hi people
[09:38] <Aviel15> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:38] <Aviel15> how i can install proftpd guys?
[09:38] <rodrigo__> !pt
[09:38] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:38] <Aviel15> on my new ubuntu
[09:38] <Aviel15> :)
[09:38] <wols> !ftpd | Aviel15
[09:38] <ubotu> Aviel15: FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[09:39] <rodrigo__> thanks
[09:39] <Aviel15> ya?
[09:39] <Aviel15> !FTP
[09:39] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[09:39] <Firebird> Keanu: open a terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[09:39] <nny> NetworkManager app has no wireless card listed, but it lists with iwconfig, and iwlist -scan shows networks... whats the deal?????
[09:39] <Aviel15> !gFTP
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gftp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <Aviel15>        
[09:39] <Aviel15>    
[09:39] <raymondjtoth> any one know of good dvd program that will alow dvd to play with close caption vlc donbt do it
[09:39] <Aviel15>   
[09:39] <raymondjtoth> dont do it
[09:39] <raymondjtoth> !arabic
[09:39] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[09:39] <alecw1> How can I uninstall a Wine program? It does NOT have an uninstall.exe or anything. The program is "Fireworks 8".
[09:39] <Aviel15>        
[09:39] <Agip> is there a software to remove unnecessary packages from ubuntu?
[09:39] <Aviel15> !'
[09:39] <Aviel15> !hebrew
[09:40] <ubotu>         :
[09:40] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[09:40] <cyrix> Hello
[09:40] <dotpavan> raymondjtoth, so, you tried the subtitles option in vlc and it didnt work?
[09:40] <youssef> see you later
[09:40] <Muiske> Does anyone know how to kill programs that are frozen?
[09:40] <dotpavan> Muiske, pkill frozen-app-name
[09:40] <raymondjtoth> dot yes when to there chat and sed will not work need 8.6b at leasta nd will not work on new ubuntu
[09:40] <youssef> Muiske: xkill
[09:40] <raymondjtoth> there support chat sed
[09:40] <Aviel15> help help guys
[09:41] <Aviel15> how i can install proftpd guys?
[09:41] <Agip> or unnecessary software from the system
[09:41] <Aviel15> new ubuntu after Format
[09:41] <nny> where do i tell modprobe to autoload a module at boot?
[09:41] <raymondjtoth> dot what now
[09:41] <youssef> Aviel15: apt-get install proftpd?
[09:41] <dotpavan> raymondjtoth, sorry, couldnt get you.. 8.6b?
[09:41] <Aviel15> oh its work?
[09:41] <Aviel15> or
[09:41] <Aviel15> sudo agp-get install provsftpd
[09:41] <dotpavan> !enter | Aviel15
[09:41] <ubotu> Aviel15: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:41] <Aviel15> !enter
[09:41] <Aviel15> vsftpd
[09:41] <jrib> nny: /etc/modules
[09:41] <wols> nny: /etc/modules
[09:42] <Keanu> Anyone? Is there an edit command in Terminal?
[09:42] <Agip> is there a software to remove unnecessary programs from ubuntu?
[09:42] <raymondjtoth> dot no chat suppoort sed will not work on new verson on ubuntu site
[09:42] <wols> Keanu: use nano
[09:42] <Keanu> Thanks
[09:42] <raymondjtoth> since it differnt build
[09:42] <dotpavan> Keanu, pico for terminal. gedit for gui=based editor
[09:42] <dukex64> can someone help me get wpa working on my wireless card in 7.04
[09:42] <raymondjtoth> on 7.04
[09:42] <Firebird> I answered earlier Keanu :) you missed it
[09:42] <wols> dotpavan: not pico
[09:42] <Muiske> dotpavan, Unfortunately pkill doesn't work... the programs aren't active, but are shown in the system monitor
[09:42] <Aviel15> hey guys i from israel
[09:42] <raymondjtoth> dot sed need to be reconpiled
[09:42] <Keanu> Wols - How do I save in "Nano"
[09:42] <Aviel15> did have here hebrew chan?
[09:42] <raymondjtoth> and any other will do this
[09:42] <dotpavan> raymondjtoth, totem works good, or smplayer
[09:43] <fr500> hrmmmm
[09:43] <Aviel15> did have here he ch?
[09:43] <raymondjtoth> dot i need close caption
[09:43] <wols> Keanu: look in the lower twoo rows
[09:43] <vertigo> hello, I just installed Ubuntu Gnome version, and would like to have my second harddisk partitions to mount on startup, instead of me having to click them on every boot
[09:43] <youssef> see you later
[09:43] <vertigo> how can i achieve this? :)
[09:43] <fr500> there should be orb for linux as my home media server is an ubuntu box....
[09:43] <nothingssomethin> i have a dell laoptop and everything pretty much works fine , i am running ubuntu fistey (sorry if not spelled right) with the new update. on my latitude i have nvida gforce go graphics card witch includes a s video out on it .... issue:::........ i downloaded easy ubuntu and i said HEY GRAY it had my nvida drivers (choice from 2, 1 official 2 legacy) BY THE WAY THIS IS A CLEAN INSTALL"  so i install the drivedrs and everything se
[09:43] <raymondjtoth> you know dot like what tv has close caption cc
[09:43] <dotpavan> Muiske, sometimes FF gets into such things, still, pkill works fine for me..
[09:43] <colbert> I have a .run file, how do I execute it? I'm using sh file.run in shell but it keeps running the shell installer, I have used it before with a GUI installer but forgot ??
[09:43] <wols> vertigo: what filesystems on that harddisk?
[09:44] <dotpavan> raymondjtoth, you mean subtitles, right?
[09:44] <wols> colbert: why do you want to run such a file. what is it?
[09:44] <Keanu> Wols - I don't see anything in the lower bar that will help . I see Get help, write out, read file, prev page ,cut text, cur pos, exit, justify , where is, next page, uncut text, to spell.
[09:44] <raymondjtoth> do if some one deaf cant hear you know that thing
[09:44] <colbert> wols: it's fine, it's a game installer i have used before, its works
[09:44] <wols> Keanu: think hard what "write out" is
[09:44] <vertigo> wols, its NTFS but didnt have to install NTFS-3G, they just mount when you click them
[09:44] <nothingssomethin> raymond my cc worked for mr in extended gui
[09:44] <nothingssomethin> me
[09:44] <raymondjtoth> if some one dead and wants to watch a movie
[09:44] <wols> colbert: sh <file>
[09:44] <Keanu> Oh - Wols
[09:44] <Keanu> Thanks
[09:44] <Keanu> Sorry
[09:44] <raymondjtoth> no how i do this
[09:44] <Keanu> I was being slow.
[09:44] <raymondjtoth> and what player
[09:44] <wols> colbert: or chmoa a+x ./installer.run
[09:44] <Keanu> Thanks.
[09:45] <nothingssomethin> vlc
[09:45] <nothingssomethin> lol
[09:45] <wols> vertigo: but mounts read only.
[09:45] <wols> !ntfs | vertigo
[09:45] <raymondjtoth> no im dead cant hear now i fix this
[09:45] <ubotu> vertigo: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:45] <nothingssomethin> select extended gui
[09:45] <vertigo> I believe I can write to them.. Ill check that
[09:45] <nothingssomethin> but i'm just an ease droper
[09:45] <raymondjtoth> want to watch movie but no cc in vlc
[09:45] <raymondjtoth> no ok
[09:45] <raymondjtoth> dot understand now
[09:46] <Nergar> i need help, i just installed slackware on a different partition, but when i booted ubuntu back i got an fdisk error. Log : http://pastebin.com/936211
[09:46] <raymondjtoth> im deaf and need cc close caption on
[09:46] <raymondjtoth> or movie will do no good to me
[09:46] <vertigo> nope, its Read Only indeed, do i have to install NTFS-3G to make it work? :)
[09:46] <raymondjtoth> and in elgish
[09:46] <J_P> hi all
[09:46] <hippie> ok.. got my monitor refresh rate fixed, but my music only works in amarok, still no support in xmms, how to fix it so xmms works?
[09:46] <nothingssomethin> yes there is cc in vlc media , you still need to select cc in the menu dvd tho
[09:47] <nothingssomethin> and enable it  in vlc
[09:47] <puffy-san> hippie: what Audio I/O driver you are using in xmms?
[09:47] <aaanone> Hey, I installed Kubuntu and now that I have my sound won't work under either GNOME or KDE
[09:47] <J_P>  people, I would like habilit the XDMCP, but machine is remotaly, anyone know what file I need edit to configure gnome for this ?
[09:47] <nothingssomethin> in extended gui
[09:47] <hippie> alsa, same as alwase
[09:47] <dotpavan> raymondjtoth, hmmn, yes, subtitles.. I am not suire why it isnt working for you.. so you I presume you have a dvd and playing it in vlc, right? then check preferences-->video-->subtitles
[09:47] <askand> Hi! I am curios at programming..is there a good program/way to create graphical interface to for example bashscripts?
[09:48] <nothingssomethin> .... issue:::........ i downloaded easy ubuntu and i said HEY GRAY it had my nvida drivers (choice from 2, 1 official 2 legacy) BY THE WAY THIS IS A CLEAN INSTALL"  so i install the drivedrs and everything seems to be working fine untill i attempe to tempt my luck and plug in the s-vid... nothing happening untill i start fishing around and come across desktop effects it gives me a prompt saying that it is installing the nvida some
[09:48] <wols> askand: not for basscripts. tryp pyhon
[09:48] <wols> try python
[09:48] <askand> wols: is there a good program for that?
[09:48] <raymondjtoth> dot yes there on my version dont work here for close caption
[09:49] <dotpavan> askand, see this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=561451
[09:49] <wols> askand: yes. it's called "python"
[09:49] <Keanu> Anyone know why im getting such slow file transfers? Via my network?
[09:49] <raymondjtoth> not subtitles for other lagig to translote to english
[09:49] <Lara> would someone be kind enough to guide me through the installation of ubuntu :)
[09:49] <wols> askand: http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy/
[09:49] <raymondjtoth> if in usa and bought over sea movie its called close caaption
[09:49] <Keanu> I'm getting a max of like.. 10KB/PS
[09:49] <raymondjtoth> !close caption
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about close caption - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <dotpavan> raymondjtoth, then I guess the dvd doesnt have that .sub file.. unless the dvd comes with the relavant .SUB file, it wont work.. you can dig the internet to dload a sub file for that media
[09:49] <alecw1> !black
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about black - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <alecw1> !black-screen
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about black-screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <hippie> !xmms
[09:50] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:50] <kazim59> what is dbus? There is something seriously wrong with my dbus... many programs report error, failed to register object... e.g. Pidgin says "Need to register the object with dbus subsystem"... I think I saw this error somewhere as well "failed to start dbus server "... ideas?
[09:50] <raymondjtoth> dot i been to vlc chat support irc chanle and sed it will not work with close caption or subtitles on here dew to old verson and new build dont support ubuntu 7.04
[09:50] <raymondjtoth> new one on site
[09:51] <spydrrrrr> Where does ubuntu store the iptables rules when I type iptables-save?
[09:51] <nothingssomethin> raymon if your dvd does not come in english subtittles then it won't work in english that is if the movie is in a diffrent language i'm not quite following tour question
[09:51] <kmasta> i just installed 32bitfirefox w/flash on my AMD64 system, and there seems to be some issues with the volume. it's really really low
[09:51] <cabuloso> ?
[09:51] <jrib> !iptables > spydrrrrr (see the private message from ubotu)
[09:51] <raymondjtoth> no it is english im DEAF
[09:51] <raymondjtoth> AND NEED CLOSE CAPTION
[09:51] <dotpavan> raymondjtoth, then you could give "totem" a try, or "smplayer" is also good.. see if they show you the subtitles
[09:51] <Grenade> how does one make a program run on boot. i'm trying to get ntp setup. i have it running... well it seems to be running anyway. just not on boot
[09:51] <Sergo> hello all
[09:51] <raymondjtoth> dot is close caption the same as saying
[09:52] <kenshinx> anyone here use nucleus blog?
[09:52] <nothingssomethin> i'll tell you what
[09:52] <spydrrrrr> ubotu: I did that but it does not tell me where the default file is saves
[09:52] <Sergo> i have a question: it is possible to change name of my username/login
[09:52] <jrib> Grenade: when your user logs in is enough or does it have to run when the computer boots/
[09:52] <raymondjtoth> dot how i get it
[09:52] <Grenade> on boot
[09:52] <cilugnedon> Does anyone here use complete hard disk encryption on feisty?
[09:52] <spydrrrrr> Where does ubuntu load it's default rule set for iptables from?
[09:52] <raymondjtoth> do i use sudo commaqnd
[09:52] <jrib> spydrrrrr: it doesn't save it anywhere, read the bottom of the wiki page
[09:52] <Alex288288> Alright, i got a Aspire 9410,  I Beryl Acts Really weird  and doesnt work most of the time, when i enable it.  And i got a Intel 950 Series . Any Ideas ?
[09:52] <dotpavan> raymondjtoth, totem is already installed
[09:52] <cilugnedon> with cryptsetup and encrypted physical volume for lvm?
[09:52] <spydrrrrr> jrib: ok hold on I will check it
[09:52] <raymondjtoth> dot dont play them
[09:52] <jrib> spydrrrrr: "Configuration on startup"
[09:52] <raymondjtoth> it dont open it up what eles do i need to do to get it working in it
[09:52] <nothingssomethin> i have a movie on my laptop i would be glad to assure the exact steps to do this if only someone would hepl me get my graphiscs cart working again
[09:53] <dotpavan> raymondjtoth, what is the error? it plays the video or not?
[09:53] <raymondjtoth> hold on
[09:53] <hippie> btw... where did the userlist go in xchat?
[09:53] <jrib> Grenade: read:  man update-rc.d
[09:53] <cilugnedon> My system is booting, but only after I manually enter the cryptsetup luksOpen command in busybox.
[09:53] <Grenade> k
[09:53] <fr500> is there something like orb for ubuntu?
[09:53] <kazim59> no one for dbus help... hmmm... will try later sometime!
[09:53] <jrib> Grenade: or use /etc/rc.local depending on what you are doing...
[09:54] <raymondjtoth> dot The audio device is busy. Is another application using it?
[09:54] <gerro> apt-get xserver-xorg-dev is not working
[09:54] <gerro> and I can ping www.google.com with 100% receive rate
[09:54] <spydrrrrr> jrib: I thought when you typed iptables-save it would save it to a default location like it does on Fedora and Red Hat...
[09:54] <raymondjtoth> dot that the err
[09:54] <jrib> gerro: it's:  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev
[09:54] <Grenade> in case I drop this server into production i'd like to be able to have ntp running if it needs to be rebooted without having to log into the machine.
[09:54] <Nergar> i need help, i just installed slackware on a different partition, but when i booted ubuntu back i got an fsck error. Log : http://pastebin.com/936211
[09:55] <gerro> jrib: I have a root prompt and its not letting me apt-get install xserver-xorg-dev
[09:55] <dotpavan> raymondjtoth, I guess vlc didnt exit properly, go to system monitor and kill vlc and esd
[09:55] <jrib> gerro: pastebin the output
[09:55] <Grenade> some tech support ppl can barely log into windows
[09:55] <raymondjtoth> how i do this
[09:55] <raymondjtoth> dont im new
[09:55] <dotpavan> raymondjtoth, go to system monitor.. the thing that shows your comp performance
[09:55] <varustah> can i use onboard at the login screen?
[09:55] <cilugnedon> I'm not getting any prompt for entering my cryptsetup password for my physical volume for lvm in order to unlock my lvm where my root is residing.
[09:56] <jrib> spydrrrrr: not according to its man page
[09:56] <cilugnedon> Can anyone help?
[09:56] <raymondjtoth> dot were is it i dont see it
[09:56] <spydrrrrr> jrib: ok good to know
[09:56] <varustah> ubuntu==sweet
[09:56] <gerro> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27162/
[09:57] <dotpavan> raymondjtoth, main menu-->system-->admin-->system monitor
[09:57] <gerro> jrib: its simply refusing to install
[09:57] <nothingssomethin> .... issue:::........ i downloaded easy ubuntu and i said HEY GRAY it had my nvida drivers (choice from 2, 1 official 2 legacy) BY THE WAY THIS IS A CLEAN INSTALL"  so i install the drivedrs and everything seems to be working fine untill i attempe to tempt my luck and plug in the s-vid... nothing happening untill i start fishing around and come across desktop effects it gives me a prompt saying that it is installing the nvida some
[09:57] <greg_g> what is the command to see the computer's IP??
[09:57] <Keanu> Hey, im getting extreemly slow transfer speeds through my network.. I need to transfer 2 files.. One being 970MB.. another being 500MB... Yet im transfering at about 10KB/PS.. Can anyone tell me how I can get that back up to normal Network Speeds?
[09:57] <jrib> gerro: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:57] <dotpavan> greg_g, ifconfig shows it
[09:58] <raymondjtoth> dot its not there
[09:58] <gerro> jrib: I just installed feisty 7.04 it has default apt sources.list
[09:58] <jrib> greg_g: wget -q -O - www.whatismyip.org    should work too
[09:58] <jrib> gerro: pastebin them
[09:58] <greg_g> jrib, not really, since that shows the modem's IP, not my internal ip
[09:59] <gerro> jrib: this first time I have booted the system after install :(
[09:59] <jrib> greg_g: you're right, just be specific :)
[09:59] <gentle> I have a hp ipaq pocket pc and I wanna change its OS from windows mobile 5.0 to an open source OS, is it possible?
[09:59] <alecw1> How do I uninstall Windows applications from Wine? I installed Fireworks 8, and I want to remove it, but I can't seem to do it.
[09:59] <dotpavan> raymondjtoth, not there? wierd.. ok type this in terminal: "pkill vlc" and "pkill esd" (without the quotes) and try playing with totem
[09:59] <jrib> gerro: k
[09:59] <jrib> alecw1: try #winehq if no one here knows
[09:59] <gerro> jrib: I'll just use dpkg but for the record apt-get is broken
[09:59] <Nergar> c'mon ppl
[09:59] <greg_g> jrib, yeah yeah, specific schmpifics
[09:59] <greg_g> ;)
[09:59] <Keanu> Can anyone help me with my problem?
[09:59] <Nergar> can anyone help me please?
[10:00] <Nergar> i need help, i just installed slackware on a different partition, but when i booted ubuntu back i got an fsck error. Log : http://pastebin.com/936211
[10:00] <jrib> gerro: it's not.  It's clearly an issue with your /etc/apt/sources.list yet you refuse to pastebin them
[10:00] <gentle>  I have a hp ipaq pocket pc and I wanna change its OS from windows mobile 5.0 to an open source OS, is it possible?
[10:00] <Fhajad> I'm trying to get No-ip 2.1.4 on Version 5.10 of Ubuntu, but everything along the way of making the executable just results in errors. And yes, I did sudo.
[10:00] <Keanu> Fhajad - I'm trying to do the exact same thing.
[10:00] <dotpavan> gentle, have you googled? http://www.ipaqlinux.com/
[10:01] <nothingssomethin> .... issue:::........ i downloaded easy ubuntu and i said HEY GRAY it had my nvida drivers (choice from 2, 1 official 2 legacy) BY THE WAY THIS IS A CLEAN INSTALL"  so i install the drivedrs and everything seems to be working fine untill i attempe to tempt my luck and plug in the s-vid... nothing happening untill i start fishing around and come across desktop effects it gives me a prompt saying that it is installing the nvida some
[10:01] <jrib> Fhajad: you should upgrade as 5.10 is no longer supported
[10:01] <Fhajad> I realize that but I can't burn CDs. This computer hates that now.
[10:01] <cilugnedon> I can hardly believe that amount those about 1200 people nobody uses harddisk encryption with cryptsetup?
[10:01] <Fhajad> And I had a bunch of copies laying around.
[10:01] <gentle> not yet I will do it
[10:01] <Keanu> I'm trying to install No-IP on Ubuntu Server - yet im getting errors like mad.
[10:01] <gerro> xserver-xorg-dev is not in package.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[10:01] <jrib> Fhajad: you don't need to burn cd's, you can upgrade
[10:01] <Keanu> Plus the slow transfer.
[10:01] <jrib> !info xserver-xorg-dev
[10:01] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-dev: X.Org X server -- development files. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.2.0-3ubuntu8 (feisty), package size 288 kB, installed size 1600 kB
[10:01] <Fhajad> jrib: It wont let me.
[10:02] <gerro> I checked library development it isn't there
[10:02] <saxin> anyone know irc-channel to compiz fusion?
[10:02] <kdubois> #opencompositing
[10:02] <Truman> Hello .. can someone tell me what the "libc" headers are, and where I can get them?
[10:02] <jrib> gerro: it is, you need to pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list if you want help with this issue from me
[10:02] <saxin> kdubois: cheers!
[10:02] <kazim59> Nergar: thats not a fatal error... didn't it boot?
[10:02] <jrib> Fhajad: why not? what happens?
[10:02] <TheCreationist> Guys, I need help setting up a wireless connection.  I've look all over ubuntu forums, but can't find anything.  I have a Buffalo Airstation router, and I know there's something to do with IP addresses.
[10:02] <Fhajad> jrib: I go to the Update Manager and it just tells me I'm unsupported and I should upgrade.
[10:02] <pi3> Truman: it's very risky to update your libc
[10:02] <gerro> jrib; never mind it in other location
[10:02] <pi3> !libc
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <TheCreationist> I had it working well in Kubuntu, but I don't remember what I needed to change... can anyone shed any light on this?
[10:03] <Nergar> kazim59, yes, after i did a control+D
[10:03] <nothingssomethin> is there a higher fourm for people who know kernals and junk??? maybe for developers and souch
[10:03] <Truman> pi3:  Ah, well I'm trying to get my nvidia driver updated, and it keeps telling me I have to get those libc things
[10:03] <dotpavan> Truman, do you have build-essentials?
[10:03] <jrib> nothingssomethin: this one is for support with begginer and advanced issues
[10:03] <kazim59> Nergar: you need to edit your /etc/fstab file when you are in ubuntu
[10:03] <kazim59> Nergar: shall I tell you how?
[10:03] <nothingssomethin> .... issue:::........ i downloaded easy ubuntu and i said HEY GRAY it had my nvida drivers (choice from 2, 1 official 2 legacy) BY THE WAY THIS IS A CLEAN INSTALL"  so i install the drivedrs and everything seems to be working fine untill i attempe to tempt my luck and plug in the s-vid... nothing happening untill i start fishing around and come across desktop effects it gives me a prompt saying that it is installing the nvida some
[10:03] <Nergar> kazim59, yes please
[10:03] <anticitizen1> HI
[10:03] <nothingssomethin> guess i'll try again
[10:03] <raymondjtoth> !libdvdcss
[10:03] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:04] <kazim59> Nergar: edit your /etc/fstab as root (sudo gedit /etc/fstab)
[10:04] <nothingssomethin> it don't seem too terablly complicated i thought
[10:04] <Nergar> kazim59, it is my /home partition in both, ubuntu and slackware
[10:04] <dotpavan> raymondjtoth, so, what happened?
[10:04] <lesshaste> I've just upgraded from edgy to feisty and my wifi setup has completely dissappeared. I used to use nm-applet and it all sort of magically worked
[10:04] <anticitizen1> i've just installed Ubuntu 5.10, whats the best way to update it?
[10:04] <lesshaste> what can I do?
[10:04] <Truman> dotpavan:  I'm not sure, this is a fresh installation, and I'm pretty new to linux
[10:04] <raymondjtoth> says i need this
[10:04] <raymondjtoth> libdvdcss2
[10:04] <nothingssomethin> the internet
[10:04] <raymondjtoth> libdvdcss this
[10:05] <dotpavan> Truman, ok do this "sudo apt-get install build-essentials" and then see if you could proceed
[10:05] <nothingssomethin> update it with the internet is the best wat with update manager
[10:05] <markvandenborre> anyone intimately familiar with alsa around?
[10:05] <jrib> !upgrade > anticitizen1 (see the private message from ubotu)
[10:05] <raymondjtoth> dot take off 2
[10:05] <Truman> dotpavan Ah, alright .. I'll try it out.  Thanks.
[10:05] <dotpavan> raymondjtoth, ok, so you dont have multimedia codecs..
[10:05] <raymondjtoth> thought i did
[10:05] <nothingssomethin> but you'll need to update the orignal security updates
[10:05] <dotpavan> !multimedia ! raymondjtoth
[10:05] <markvandenborre> I am fighting alsa in feisty
[10:05] <dotpavan> !multimedia | raymondjtoth
[10:05] <ubotu> raymondjtoth: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[10:05] <nothingssomethin> first
[10:05] <kazim59> Nergar: edit /etc/fstab as root (in ubuntu)
[10:05] <jrib> anticitizen1: if you've just installed it, you're better off downloading a 7.04 iso and reinstalling
[10:05] <TheCreationist> Guys, I need help setting up a wireless connection.  I've look all over ubuntu forums, but can't find anything.  I have a Buffalo Airstation router, and I know there's something to do with IP addresses.
[10:05] <TheCreationist> I had it working well in Kubuntu, but I don't remember what I needed to change... can anyone shed any light on this?
[10:06] <Truman> oh wait, I had one other question:  I downloaded the nvidia driver and set up my GAIM account and then ctrl+alt+backspaced out of xserver so I could install the nvidia thing .. then when I restarted x, it gave me a fresh desktop (without the driver) and my GAIM didn't have any active accounts set up
[10:06] <Fhajad> jrib: So how can I update via Ubuntu itself without having to burn a CD and what not?
[10:06] <jrib> Fhajad: have you seen the wiki page on upgrading?
[10:06] <gerro> jrib: xserver-xorg-dev is installed but do you know where to get libc development package?
[10:06] <kazim59> Nergar: set the last column to 0 in 'UUID=bc77755c-827c-416f-9897-fbe31a2d9338' row
[10:06] <doc|work> I'm getting a lot of /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: not found
[10:06] <doc|work> anyone got any suggestions why?
[10:06] <Nergar> kazim59, fstab: http://pastebin.com/936247
[10:07] <jrib> gerro: install build-essential .  What are you actually trying to accomplish by the way?
[10:07] <lesshaste> Also... I have to boot the generic kernel and the 386 one doesn't work at all
[10:07] <nothingssomethin> 03:04:36 PM) anticitizen1: i've just installed Ubuntu 5.10, whats the best way to update it?
[10:07] <nothingssomethin> update it with the internet is the best wat with update manager
[10:07] <nothingssomethin> but first  you'll need to update the orignal security updates then you can use the update manager.
[10:07] <lesshaste> does the generic kernel not have mad-wifi suppoty?
[10:07] <lesshaste> support?
[10:07] <jrib> !upgrade > Fhajad (see the private message from ubotu)
[10:08] <nothingssomethin> if you don't have a fast connection plan on watching a movie
[10:08] <nothingssomethin> or two
[10:08] <nny> !ati
[10:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:08] <predaeus> lesshaste, there is no point in using the 368 kernel if you can use the generic one.
[10:08] <nny> whats the channel for ubuntu desktop effects?
[10:09] <nothingssomethin> i have no graphics
[10:09] <lesshaste> predaeus: ok.. so any idea how to get wifi working? It was fine before the upgrade
[10:09] <nothingssomethin> here let me post it fully
[10:09] <jrib> nny: #ubuntu-effects
[10:09] <wols> !effects < nny
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about effects < nny - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <nothingssomethin> i didn't want to create traffic
[10:09] <asdf_> Does anyone know of a text replacement app?
[10:09] <dotpavan> !ubuntu-effects
[10:09] <ubotu> For help with 3d desktop effects applications or drivers please join #ubuntu-effects, someone there will be glad to help you. You can read http://forum.beryl-project.org/ for most common problems or questions.
[10:09] <nothingssomethin> i have a dell laoptop and everything pretty much works fine , i am running ubuntu fistey (sorry if not spelled right) with the new update. on my latitude i have nvida gforce go graphics card witch includes a s video out on it .... issue:::........ i downloaded easy ubuntu and i said HEY GRAY it had my nvida drivers (choice from 2, 1 official 2 legacy) BY THE WAY THIS IS A CLEAN INSTALL"  so i install the drivedrs and everything se
[10:09] <anticitizen1> OK, if i download & burn the new .ISO can i just overwrite the previous installation?
[10:10] <jrib> nothingssomethin: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to explain the details and make your statement shorter because you get cut off
[10:10] <dotpavan> nothingssomethin, not sure if many use easyubuntu here, so maybe it is hard to grasp what might have gone wrong
[10:10] <jrib> anticitizen1: yes
[10:10] <predaeus> lesshaste, sorry no idea. I am not familiar with wifi setups.
[10:10] <TheCreationist> !wireless
[10:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:10] <lesshaste> predaeus: ok thanks
[10:10] <Otacon22> !realplayer
[10:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:10] <kazim59> Nergar: I modified ur post... save it to /etc/fstab
[10:10] <anticitizen1> ok, Thank You very much, ill start downloading the .ISO file.
[10:10] <predaeus> !wifi | lesshaste
[10:10] <ubotu> lesshaste: please see above
[10:11] <lesshaste> ubotu: thanks.. something major must have changed as I used to just run nm-applet
[10:11] <nothingssomethin> i have a dell laoptop and everything pretty much works fine , i am running ubuntu fistey (sorry if not spelled right) with the new update. on my latitude i have nvida gforce go graphics card witch
[10:11] <nothingssomethin> includes a s video out on it .... issue:::........ i downloaded easy ubuntu and i said HEY GRAY it had my nvida drivers (choice from 2, 1 official 2 legacy) BY THE WAY THIS IS A CLEAN INSTALL"  so i install
[10:11] <nothingssomethin> the drivedrs and everything seems to be working fine untill i attempe to tempt my luck and plug in the s-vid... nothing happening untill i start fishing around and come across desktop effects it gives me a prompt saying that it is installing the nvida something or other and
[10:11] <nothingssomethin> needs a restart upon restart i have monoter up untill around the time the loader(the windows like stadus bar) ends.............then ooh crap black screen but sound i would like to revert revert revert to orignal config PLEASE HELP
[10:11] <TenerifeDave> i'm still having problems can someone please help? I am connected to my internal wireless network, but have no connectivity to other computers on the network, any ideas?
[10:11] <nothingssomethin> better????
[10:11] <jrib> nothingssomethin: no, I said to use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , not write an essay :)
[10:12] <dotpavan> nothingssomethin, try #ubuntu-effects
[10:12] <SourceCode> what folder do I put ubuntu desktop backgrounds in?
[10:12] <Sweetrelease> any
[10:12] <jrib> SourceCode: any you want
[10:12] <SourceCode> ok
[10:12] <raymondjtoth> !libdvdcss
[10:12] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:12] <nothingssomethin> thanks....redirecting
[10:13] <gronbaek> TenerifeDave: Are you sure it is not your AP that seperates wireless from normal LAN traffic?
[10:13] <TheCreationist> I am unable to connect to my wireless router.  Ubuntu sees the network, but I have no internet access.  I remember in Kubuntu I had to set the Gateway IP to something, but I can't remember.  Can anyone help me with this, please?
[10:13] <TenerifeDave> no, i have eth0 coming in from outside, then wlan0 going to internal network
[10:13] <Nergar> kazim59, you changed sda7 but the log says sda3
[10:14] <lesshaste> I am not even sure if the kernel  has the madwifi stuff compiled in
[10:14] <lesshaste> how do I check?
[10:14] <Fhajad> jrib: It's giving me depository errors now. Saying it can't open the upgrades and such.
[10:14] <mike3_> Hey guys, why is it that my hard drive partitions are registering as sba and such. Shouldn't it be HDAx
[10:14] <mike3_> ????
[10:14] <jrib> Fhajad: pastebin the errors
[10:14] <asdf_> Does anyone know of a text replacement app?
[10:14] <kazim59> Nergar: your log says that sda3 is found clean... it gives error in UUID=....
[10:15] <Sweetrelease> mike33 if its sata its gets labled sda
[10:15] <jrib> asdf_: like 'sed'?
[10:15] <dotpavan> lesshaste, check your kernel agains the results of this: apt-cache search madwifi
[10:15] <gronbaek> Yes, but assuming you have a router with wireless buildin, some routers seperates wireless traffic from wired traffic. Which would mean that a wireless client would not be able to se a wired server.
[10:15] <Nergar> kazim59, oh, sorry
[10:15] <Nergar> :p
[10:15] <asdf_> jrib: I'm not sure what sed is...
[10:15] <Fhajad> jrib: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:15] <kazim59> Nergar: restart to see if it fixed ur problem!
[10:15] <Nergar> yes
[10:15] <Fhajad> breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/
[10:15] <jrib> Fhajad: use pastebin to paste the full output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:15] <Sweetrelease> mike3_ if its sata its gets labled sda
[10:16] <gronbaek> Is both eth0 and wifi0 connected to the same router?
[10:16] <nothingssomethin> dot
[10:16] <TenerifeDave> no
[10:16] <lesshaste> dotpavan: I need restricted modules it seems
[10:16] <nothingssomethin> how did you make it into a link
[10:16] <jrib> asdf_: it lets you do something like    sed s/foo/bar/ file    to change all "foo" into "bar" in the file "file"
[10:16] <mike3_> Sweetrelease, it's plugged in via IDE and a IDEA slot ont he mother board.
[10:16] <TenerifeDave> eth0 is coming from a router on my roof (wisp) then into my computer
[10:16] <mike3_> nothing like sata
[10:16] <TenerifeDave> then wlan0 going to my own ap for others in the house
[10:17] <raymondjtoth> dot what did i type
[10:17] <Sweetrelease> mike3_ oh then idk, sorry
[10:17] <raymondjtoth> i cant rember it
[10:17] <TenerifeDave> confusing i know gronbaek lol
[10:17] <mike3_> Sweetrelease, what?
[10:17] <jaelae> I knew it!! mike3_ is here
[10:17] <dotpavan> !multimedia | raymondjtoth
[10:17] <ubotu> raymondjtoth: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[10:17] <Sweetrelease> i dont know
[10:17] <nothingssomethin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27167/ does this liunk work right
[10:17] <raymondjtoth> dot no mine
[10:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Looking for someone to help with dri drivers for ATI mobility 7500 on Dell LAptop
[10:17] <raymondjtoth> not your
[10:17] <asdf_> jrib: I'm looking for something that will replace writing on the fly w/ hot keys, like "hj" + enter will turn into Hello, John
[10:17] <dotpavan> !libdvdcss2 | raymondjtoth
[10:17] <ubotu> raymondjtoth: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:18] <asdf_> jrib: kind of like texter for windows: http://lifehacker.com/software/texter/lifehacker-code-texter-windows-238306.php
[10:18] <raymondjtoth> !libdvdcss
[10:18] <jrib> asdf_: oh, at all times or just in a text editor?
[10:18] <asdf_> jrib: at all times
[10:18] <tessie> server undernet
[10:18] <askand> Is there a way to have kind of postit on your desktop?
[10:18] <raymondjtoth> !libdvdcss
[10:18] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:18] <jrib> asdf_: ah, no idea then
[10:18] <herbaliser> anybody can tell me soft to write pdf's,  pdfwriter
[10:18] <gronbaek> Uh, im not quite sure i got that. So it's two differet connections. One router which your connected to using eth0/wire, and one AP which you are connected to using Wifi0/wireless.
[10:18] <Fhajad> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27168
[10:18] <PriceChild> herbaliser, use any software, then print to pdf
[10:18] <TenerifeDave> yep gronbaek
[10:19] <gronbaek> And you can't access other computers on the AP?
[10:19] <Sweetrelease> to the group, Question.  why does a HDD get labled as sda instead of hda if it isent sata?
[10:19] <dotpavan> herbaliser, pdfedit
[10:19] <TenerifeDave> nope that is correct
[10:19] <jrib> nothingssomethin: hit ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a prompt and run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[10:19] <gronbaek> Are the AP and the router connected in any way?
[10:19] <TenerifeDave> no
[10:19] <predaeus> herbaliser, openoffice writer with export to pdf, or lyx with latex2pdf export
[10:19] <asdf_> Does anyone know of a text replacement app for Linux like Texter for Windows?
[10:19] <TenerifeDave> only through my computer when it works properly lol
[10:19] <doc|work> asdf_: sed
[10:20] <Fhajad> Keanu: You have any luck yet with No-IP?
[10:20] <asdf_> doc|work: I'm talking about text replacement on the fly not in an editor
[10:20] <jrib> asdf_: you need to be specific in your question, explain what you explained to me...
[10:20] <askand> Is there a way to have kind of postit on your desktop?
[10:20] <doc|work> asdf_: it's a command
[10:20] <asdf_> I'm looking for something that will replace writing on the fly w/ hot keys, like "hj" + enter will turn into Hello, John
[10:20] <cman325> askand checkout tomboy notes
[10:20] <kazim59> askand: Sticky Notes?
[10:20] <gronbaek> OK, some AP's uses some sort of isolation, so wireless clients can't communicate diretcly. I think my Linksys router uses that by default.
[10:21] <Sweetrelease> Question:  why does a HDD get labled as sda instead of hda if it isent sata?
[10:21] <jrib> Fhajad: I'm not sure of the proper procedure, but I would try commenting those repos that are failing and then upgrading again
[10:21] <TenerifeDave> i've used it in the same setup in windows though
[10:21] <rvb> Could anyone help me out with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2906074 It's about Ubuntu getting messed up by an external harddrive being connected and now it won't start or even let me reinstall.
[10:21] <dotpavan> doc|work, asdf_ something like mac's textpander, right?
[10:21] <gronbaek> There must be some sort of router connected which the AP is connected to, can you access taht?
[10:21] <asdf_> dotpavan: exactly
[10:22] <TenerifeDave> the ap isnt connected to any router
[10:22] <tnw> freenx server installation ?
[10:22] <zoidberg_> hey guys
[10:22] <zoidberg_> i got a new dell machine
[10:22] <zoidberg_> right now i only have a dapper cd and i installed dapper successfully
[10:23] <gronbaek> OK, so it's basically just there to male you able to communicate from one wireless computer to another, and not to provide Internet connection?
[10:23] <nexous> Hi, when I go to install feisty from desktop cd, it stops at 80% of installing system, 'Configuring target system'
[10:23] <tnw> sshd freenx nxclient vorhandeb
[10:23] <tnw> sshd freenx nxclient vorhanden
[10:23] <gronbaek> Do you get an IP from the AP, to wifi0?
[10:23] <Fhajad> Keanu: Hello?
[10:23] <TenerifeDave> no i dont gronbaek
[10:23] <tnw> eng ??
[10:23] <zoidberg_> when i try to upgrade to edgy by 'gksu "update-manager -c" '...i get this message
[10:24] <TenerifeDave> in windows i had a ip server which did it for me
[10:24] <zoidberg_> "authenticating the upgrade failed....there might be an error in the server'?
[10:24] <shaun_> what packages do i need on the server side to get ssh -X working?
[10:24] <zoidberg_> any idea what i should do...i cant burn any more cds....
[10:24] <gronbaek> OK, but you can see it in the list of APs.
[10:24] <vertigo> hmmz, just installed NTFS3G, and did the ntfsfix trick... but after a reboot my 2nd HD appears to be completely gone..
[10:24] <TenerifeDave> yeah, i am connected to it
[10:24] <TenerifeDave> other computers are too
[10:25] <TenerifeDave> just cant communicate
[10:25] <rvb> zoidberg_: A little tip, write your question in *one* message, don't spread it out over six. Makes it easier to read.
[10:25] <dotpavan> asdf_, I have also been looking for something like that, plz let me know if you come across one.. I am looking right now
[10:25] <asdf_> Does anyone know of a text expander utility for Linux like Texter in Windows or Textpander in Mac?
[10:25] <TenerifeDave> all computers are on same ip 192.168.0.**
[10:25] <zoidberg_> rvb, sorry
[10:25] <zoidberg_> rvb, can u help me though?
[10:26] <LeGeeko> Hey, sorry to bother you but my X server crashed, and refuses to un-crash
[10:26] <dotpavan> asdf_, try this: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Snippits?content=52197
[10:26] <wols> LeGeeko: logs are a wonderful thing
[10:26] <LeGeeko> Can someone please tell me how to fix it? Thanks!
[10:26] <Savenger> hi all
[10:26] <rvb> zoidberg_: Nope, don't know the answer.
[10:26] <kdubois> LeGeeko: be more specific
[10:26] <jrib> LeGeeko: what is your current status?
[10:26] <orbisvicis> if I make/sudo make install something; how can i uninstall it ?
[10:26] <rvb> asdf_: do you want something that searches and replaces text in files?
[10:26] <zaggynl> My usb hdd keeps freezing while I'm watching DVDs from it/copying large files, log shows this: Jun 25 21:19:38 AMD3200L kernel: [ 3310.911436]  usb 5-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
[10:27] <LeGeeko> In terminal login, just installed a new graphics driver
[10:27] <Super_Cat_Frog> hi - does anybody know of any tools for fat32 file recovery (from deleted files)
[10:27] <lesshaste> the restricted modules worked beautifully
[10:27] <asdf_> rvb: no -- just that replaces text on the fly...
[10:27] <jrib> orbisvicis: sometimes  sudo make uninstall  will be provided, but it is not guaranteed.  Instead, consider using checkinstall instead of make install:
[10:27] <jrib> !checkinstall > orbisvicis (see the private message from ubotu)
[10:27] <kdubois> orbisvicis: usually sudo make uninstall will do it, but some programs dont have an uninstall rule.....
[10:27] <orbisvicis> ok
[10:28] <jrib> LeGeeko: and what happens when you try to start X again?
[10:28] <LeGeeko> It gives my the "screen not found" error
[10:28] <Slart> anyone know of a good application to display logs from several linux machines (just text logs, syslog, kernel log samba log etc). Needs to be fairly realtime updated
[10:28] <gronbaek> OK, but if your wireless interface don't have an IP, you can't communicate with other computers. So you need to either manually setup an IP for wifi0.
[10:29] <TenerifeDave> i have
[10:29] <asdf_> dotpavan: that looks like it will do the trick, now just figuring out how to use it...
[10:29] <TenerifeDave> 192.168.0.1
[10:29] <Leonidas> Hi all..
[10:29] <kazim59> !dbus
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dbus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <gronbaek> OK, sorry I misunderstod then.
[10:29] <Leonidas> My root partition is running out with space i've got only 150 MB left :(  can i resize my / partition without using any livecd etc. coz my laptop's DVD -rom is not working
[10:29] <gronbaek> And the other client also has an IP?
[10:29] <jrib> LeGeeko: so it's an issue with your xorg.conf.  revert to the old one or fix the issue.  If you want help fixing the new one, you should pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log after a failed attempt to start X
[10:29] <TenerifeDave> yep
[10:29] <TenerifeDave> 192.168.0.10
[10:29] <TenerifeDave> dont understand why its not working
[10:29] <fuzzy_logic> hi people..
[10:29] <Savenger> i'm trying to chroot, but i get a "Exec format error", what can I do? I'm running Ubuntu 7.04 with Kernel 2.6.20-16-generic
[10:29] <TenerifeDave> but works in windows fine
[10:29] <gronbaek> And you can't ping that IP?
[10:29] <TenerifeDave> nope
[10:29] <LeGeeko> OK, but how do I use the old one again?
[10:29] <dotpavan> LeGeeko, see the error log in /etc/X11 after entering in safe mode, it might give some info
[10:29] <pike_> Leonidas: how much of that is /home?
[10:29] <sanyi86> hi all
[10:30] <jrib> LeGeeko: how did you make a new one?
[10:30] <pike_> Leonidas: du -ach /home
[10:30] <asdf_> dotpavan: can you use this app w/ Gnome?
[10:30] <LeGeeko> nvidia-xconfig
[10:30] <TenerifeDave> when i try to ping the other computer it comes back with...
[10:30] <TenerifeDave> From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=6 Destination Host Unreachable
[10:30] <fuzzy_logic> hi sanyi86
[10:30] <jrib> LeGeeko: it usually makes backups in /etc/X11 named xorg.conf.*
[10:30] <Leonidas> 230 MB
[10:30] <LeGeeko> OK
[10:31] <jrib> LeGeeko: did you use the restricted drivers manager?
[10:31] <dotpavan> asdf_, it should
[10:31] <LeGeeko> No, i used apt-get install nvidia-glx
[10:31] <jrib> LeGeeko: did you install the restricted-modules for your kernel?
[10:31] <fuzzy_logic> LeGeeko: i would use restricted drivers manager
[10:32] <LeGeeko> No, I did not install restricted-modules
[10:32] <jrib> !nvidia > LeGeeko (see the private message from ubotu)
[10:32] <LeGeeko> It may have been installed before though
[10:32] <fuzzy_logic> !nvidia
[10:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:32] <gronbaek> Hm... I'm not really sure about the AP part, how it works without wired connection. But i works in when your computer is connected to the AP, when booting into Windows?
[10:32] <asdf_> dotpavan: do you have the script up and running?
[10:33] <shaun_> hello
[10:33] <TenerifeDave> yeah
[10:33] <fuzzy_logic> hello shaun_
[10:33] <shaun_> when i search for xbase-clients the package shows up
[10:33] <tym-> http://geekhouss.miniville.fr/ind :)
[10:33] <TenerifeDave> it wouldnt need a wired connection, its a wireless ap
[10:33] <shaun_> but when i try to isntall it it says "No candidate version found for xbase-clients"
[10:33] <Leonidas> pike_, what's is my home directory space usage todo with resizing ?
[10:33] <shaun_> is there some way to install this package?
[10:34] <unagi> anyone here have any problems with ubuntu crashing to a black screen with scrambled video or like green lines?
[10:34] <jrib> shaun_: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:34] <fuzzy_logic> shaun_: just a sec plz
[10:34] <kaktuskatta> Hi I need some help with my webcam. It's a Logitech Quickcam Messenger, but I'm unable to get it to work
[10:34] <gronbaek> Hm... could you perhaps disconnect eth0, and try again. I mean, maybe when you are "pinging", its done on the wrong interface. That would explain why you can't get a route to that host.
[10:34] <dotpavan> asdf_, reading the readme file, have to configure
[10:35] <TenerifeDave> i've tried just having the wireless on and disconnecting eth0, still the same
[10:35] <kaktuskatta> And now I accidently overwrote the settings on /dev/video0, so my TV-tuner doesn't work anymore !
[10:35] <gronbaek> I'm not sure how Ubuntu works when using two interfaces simultanously.
[10:35] <shaun_> jrib, http://rafb.net/p/VKhsXe94.html
[10:35] <TenerifeDave> works fine, i've used it before
[10:36] <Savenger> i'm trying to chroot, but i get a "Exec format error", what can I do? I'm running Ubuntu 7.04 with Kernel 2.6.20-16-generic
[10:36] <kaktuskatta> anyone with webcam experience here?
[10:36] <mok0> ! bot | mok0
[10:37] <jrib> shaun_: are you running ubuntu?
[10:37] <zaggynl> My usb hdd keeps freezing while I'm watching DVDs from it/copying large files, log shows this: Jun 25 21:19:38 AMD3200L kernel: [ 3310.911436]  usb 5-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
[10:37] <asdf_> dotpavan: here's something interesting, too: http://www.mail-archive.com/gnu-emacs-sources@gnu.org/msg00685.html
[10:37] <kdubois> kaktuskatta: i have tv tuner experience... from what i know, you have to get the right chipset (look at the v4l wiki) to get the webcam to work....
[10:37] <dotpavan> kaktuskatta, use camorama, for chat, you could use kopete
[10:38] <kaktuskatta> kdubois: How to I revert back to my old settings?
[10:38] <hippie> have no window decorators in beryl on kubuntu, how to fix?
[10:38] <Sweetrelease> hippie sudo apt-get install emerald
[10:38] <hippie> o
[10:38] <hippie> thought that came with beryl
[10:38] <pike_> Leonidas: well by default home is under /  if you want to resize / just boot either ubuntu livecd or gparted livecd
[10:39] <asdf_> dotpavan: any luck on the read me?
[10:39] <Sweetrelease> if you follow th guides online it will tell you to install it in one sweep but its not a dependency
[10:39] <jrib> hippie: #ubuntu-effects is for issues with beryl.  If you have an nvidia card, you probably need AddARGBGLXVisuals in your xorg.conf (see wiki)
[10:39] <Chokoloff> bon nuit a tous
[10:39] <hippie> ok
[10:40] <hippie> did the apt-get.... already have emerald
[10:40] <Leonidas> pike_: fine, but my laptop dvd rom is not working
[10:40] <kaktuskatta> kdubois: I downloaded the drivers for my cam through a link on ubuntuforums.org
[10:40] <kiplantt> how to enable the middle click of my USB mouse ? here is my xorg.conf (mouse part): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27173/
[10:40] <Bakefy> what is a good/easy/basic web server
[10:41] <Shaftino> kiplantt, I had a problem with mine, till i removed the emulate 3 button option
[10:41] <rvb> Bakefy: Maybe this is what you're looking for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lighttpd
[10:41] <Leonidas> pike_: Is there any other way then running a livecd
[10:41] <shaun_> jrib, yeah i'm running ubuntu
[10:41] <dotpavan> asdf_, nope, installing rails
[10:41] <Sweetrelease> hippie, when you click on the beryl icon and go to window decorator does it say emerald?
[10:41] <kiplantt> Shaftino: I'll try that
[10:41] <shaun_> jrib, oh shoot, u konw what i'm not
[10:41] <shaun_> haha
[10:41] <hippie> yes
[10:42] <hippie> beryl isnt running atm
[10:42] <jrib> shaun_: ok, because I was about to give you a lecture about using debian repos on ubuntu :)
[10:42] <pike_> Leonidas: the partition cannot be mounted while resized. im not sure if you have any other option really
[10:42] <Sweetrelease> is there emerald setting manager?
[10:42] <hippie> yes there is
[10:42] <shaun_> hehe
[10:42] <Bakefy> thanks RVB!
[10:42] <Sweetrelease> and when you open that is there choices?
[10:42] <hippie> says emerald theme manager
[10:43] <gronbaek> TenerifeDave: I'm not sure then, I've done some "pinging" on my own network, as tests, but I can't really figure out what to try next.
[10:43] <gronbaek> Especially if it works in windows.
[10:43] <Leonidas> pike_: i guess than i will have to boot with external cd-rom or maybe try to boot from USB stick
[10:43] <TenerifeDave> yeah
[10:43] <TenerifeDave> strange
[10:43] <ubuntuEdgy> any one use firestarter ?
[10:43] <Leonidas> pike_, thanx for ur help :)
[10:43] <Sweetrelease> hippie, and when you open that is there choices?
[10:43] <ubuntuEdgy> what dose the "lock mean"
[10:44] <reed026> hmm does Xubuntu tend to freeze when it gets to Preparing to configure xubuntu-docs on older machines?
[10:44] <gronbaek> My best gues was still that the "double" network connection could be a problem, but i'm not sure.
[10:44] <TenerifeDave> i wouldnt say so, because i've tried without the wired network and its the same
[10:44] <hippie> yes there is choices
[10:44] <TenerifeDave> anyone else have any ideas?
[10:44] <hippie> just opened it
[10:44] <Sweetrelease> click one
[10:44] <Shaftino> hippie, try running 'emerald --replace'
[10:45] <Shaftino> hippie, or 'beryl --replace'
[10:45] <kiplantt> how to enable the middle click of my mouse ? here is my xorg.conf (mouse part): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27177/
[10:45] <cobra306> has anyone already installed Mesa3D drivers with DRI from CVS ?
[10:45] <Sweetrelease> no i think he just dident change the teme
[10:45] <Sweetrelease> theme
[10:45] <diminthedam> my ubuntu 7.04 has no sound anymore without any noticeable errors. How can I troubleshoot?
[10:45] <hippie> ok
[10:45] <Sweetrelease> the default is the gnome looking one
[10:45] <Martinp23> kiplantt: Remove the "emulate 3 button mouse" line.
[10:45] <cobra306> has anyone already installed Mesa3D drivers with DRI from CVS ??
[10:45] <kiplantt> Martinp23: I commented it (see 6th line)
[10:45] <joshritger> I am using 7.04 and it recognizes my wireless card, but when I try to connect to the network it will not let me. I have a mac filter and passphrase  on the network. I have added the comps mac adress and put inthe pass phrase any ideas?
[10:46] <ergun_> hi is there anyone who uses bluetooth on ubuntu 6.1
[10:46] <TenerifeDave> same problem as be joshritger
[10:46] <TenerifeDave> me*
[10:46] <Martinp23> kiplantt: Did you restart X (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace)?  (Save open work first!)
[10:46] <marfeath> joshritger: did you give it the wireless card's mac address or your wired?
[10:46] <joshritger> ok
[10:46] <hippie> running beryl --replace.... still no window decorator
[10:46] <kiplantt> joshritger & TenerifeDave: first try without passwords and MAC protection
[10:47] <hippie> but im in the #ubuntu effects so ill leave yall alone
[10:47] <kiplantt> Martinp23: of course
[10:47] <Sweetrelease> ergun_ its 6.10, the 0 is kinda important. its a date not a version number
[10:47] <TenerifeDave> cannot try without passowrd, as i dont know the login password
[10:47] <ergun_> sorry
[10:47] <joshritger> how do i know the cards adress
[10:47] <TenerifeDave> and cannot reset it
[10:47] <Sweetrelease> np
[10:47] <rvb> Could anyone help me out with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2906074 It's about Ubuntu getting messed up by an external harddrive being connected and now it won't start or even let me reinstall.
[10:47] <Savenger> i'm trying to chroot, but i get a "Exec format error", what can I do? I'm running Ubuntu 7.04 with Kernel 2.6.20-16-generic
[10:48] <Sweetrelease> hippie have you logged out and logged in since installing beryl, sometimes you need to restart x
[10:48] <asdf_> dotpavan: any luck?
[10:48] <stewlatin> any idea how to give my computer a bluetooth ftp profile so a i can browse file on my phone
[10:48] <marfeath> joshritger: type iwconfig, and it will show a wireless device, take note of what it is (something like eth1 or wifi0) and then type ifconfig, it is the HwAddr
[10:49] <hippie> no... doint that now
[10:49] <hippie> brb
[10:49] <kiplantt> how to enable the middle click of my mouse ? here is my xorg.conf (mouse part): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27177/
[10:49] <dotpavan> asdf_, nope, cant figure out anything..
[10:50] <ceil420> what's the command to search running processes by name? i wanna kill a locked up Audacious, but dno the PID :x
[10:50] <cobra306> `DRM_VBLANK_SECONDARY' undeclared (first use in this function) --> i get this error when compiling Mesa3D, can anybody tell me what is the problem ?
[10:50] <Zyxus> Savenger: you can't chroot 32bit <-> 64 bit
[10:50] <Savenger> ceil420: with "pidof <name>" you get the id
[10:50] <ceil420> (or if "audacious" is the process's name)
[10:50] <joshritger> I had the right mac adress
[10:50] <joshritger> hmm
[10:50] <ceil420> eh i guess 'audacious' is it's name
[10:50] <kaktuskatta> kiplantt: what type of mouse do you have?
[10:50] <ceil420> thanks, Savenger
[10:50] <Savenger> Zyxus: thanks! but, what can i do now?
[10:51] <asdf_> Can anyone explain how to use either of these apps: http://www.mail-archive.com/gnu-emacs-sources@gnu.org/msg00685.html or http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Snippits?content=52197
[10:51] <Savenger> ceil420: np ;-)
[10:51] <kiplantt> kaktuskatta: USB mouse
[10:51] <kiplantt> kaktuskatta: but I installed Ubuntu with only the touchpad of my laptop
[10:51] <stewlatin> can someone help me with my bluetooth
[10:52] <asdf_> Can anyone explain how to use this utility? http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Snippits?content=52197
[10:52] <kaktuskatta> kiplantt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27179/
[10:52] <marfeath> stewlatin: hate to break it to you but bluetooth support is really bad right now.  there is a utility you should look for called gnome-bluetooth, but that is only if you are supported
[10:52] <kiplantt> kaktuskatta: thanks
[10:52] <kaktuskatta> kiplantt: A link to my conf. I have a logitech MX510
[10:53] <hippie> it works!!
[10:53] <kaktuskatta> kiplantt: Note that both external and mousepad is there
[10:53] <Sweetrelease> congrats
[10:53] <Bakefy> what is the command to change permissions to a folder?
[10:53] <hippie> got wondow decorators now
[10:53] <NickNamed> hello all
[10:53] <kaktuskatta> I think this will work
[10:53] <hippie> window*
[10:53] <marfeath> Bakefy: chmod
[10:53] <wietz0r> Bakefy: chmod or chown
[10:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[10:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:53] <wietz0r> Bakefy: man chmod
[10:53] <NickNamed> I'm having some trouble with grub, its not detecting one of my drives
[10:53] <wietz0r> !grub
[10:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:53] <asdf_> Does anyone know of a text expander utility for Linux like Texter in Windows or Textpander in Mac?
[10:53] <kiplantt> kaktuskatta: I'm going to try
[10:54] <wietz0r> asdf_: Explain ?
[10:54] <dotpavan> stewlatin, marfeath, my experience: got an unnamed local chinese bluetooth usb for $8 with no company name or drivers, feisty worked out of the box whereas xp struggled :)
[10:54] <asdf_> wietz0r: you type a little bit of text like "hJ" and hit enter and then your text gets replaced to say "Hello, John"
[10:54] <asdf_> wietz0r: you can setup a whole bunch of hotkeys
[10:54] <stewlatin> yea, my $20 bluetooth adapter works I can usually browse files on phones that i pair with I was wondering how to do that with my computer
[10:54] <wietz0r> asdf_: textmate does this
[10:55] <pike_> asdf_: vim can do that
[10:55] <cwgannon> I'm trying to run: " $find . -depth -print0 | cpio null sparse -pvd /mnt/newhome/" but I'm receiving an error message in Terminal.  The message is "cpio: You must specify one of -oipt options."  Any suggestions?
[10:55] <wietz0r> asdf_: Emacs aswell
[10:55] <Savenger> Zyxus: do you have any idea? It's for that openmoko. I downloaded the dev-stuff for it, and after that I had to chroot into a dir of that stuff.
[10:55] <Bakefy> wietz0r, lets say this is a webserver, and I want to be able to drag and drop pictures to the directory /var/www/  do I just type (in terminal) sudo chmod 777 /var/www/
[10:55] <mrcreativity> can some here help me fic my window decorations please?
[10:55] <asdf_> witz0r: I mean in any application specifically firefox or any app on the desktop
[10:55] <mrcreativity> can someone help me please?
[10:55] <marfeath> dotpavan: stewlatin: I'm using a dell inspiron.  Bluetooth doesnt work in linux
[10:55] <wietz0r> Bakefy: Not sure actually
[10:55] <asdf_> witz0r: I want to be able to use my hotkeys in any app...know what i mean?
[10:56] <wietz0r> asdf_: I don't know how to do this
[10:56] <cobra306> `DRM_VBLANK_SECONDARY' undeclared (first use in this function) --> i get this error when compiling Mesa3D, can anybody tell me what is the problem ?
[10:56] <Bakefy> okay, I will just see if that lets me.... so what if I get hacked, nothing important here.
[10:56] <stewlatin> I'm using the $20 Wal-Mart usb bluetooth adapter
[10:56] <fr500> hello
[10:56] <lockdown> cwgannon, you have to specify what you want cpio to do,  create, extract, print, etc
[10:56] <dotpavan> marfeath, mine is a 2 year old toshiba with usb bluetooth, it works (after bluez-utils and a couple of kde obex apps)..
[10:57] <fr500> is there any good software for managinag a WebServer (apache), bind and an FTP Server, i run an ISP
[10:57] <Leonidas> mrcreativity:  have you tried to google for it? there are lots of solutions on http://ubuntuforums.org
[10:57] <dotpavan> stewlatin, did you go through the bluetooth page on ubuntu wiki?
[10:57] <cwgannon> lockdown: I'm following the guide found here: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition, but it doesn't tell me how or that I need to.
[10:57] <stewlatin> Yea, I was trying to figure out how to browse files on my computer from my phone
[10:58] <oo> hey all, my feisty seems to be stuck in a "partial update" state.. can't get out of it. plus now it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop and a host of other packages. any ideas?
[10:58] <mrcreativity> can someone help me please?
[10:58] <mrcreativity> can some here help me fix my window decorations please?
[10:58] <krs> j'ai un eplie de paquets corrompu avec synaptics, a vous arrive aussi?
[10:58] <aroo> mrcreativity: you haven't said what your problem is
[10:58] <Savenger> krs: try joining #ubuntu-fr
[10:58] <aroo> mrcreativity: so no, no one can help you
[10:58] <mrcreativity> my titlebar decoration is stuck on one theme
[10:58] <Leonidas> mrcreativity:  stop repeating your question , can u tell  the exact problem
[10:59] <mrcreativity> i cant seem to change it no matter what theme i choos
[10:59] <asdf_> Does anyone know of a text expander utility for Linux like Texter in Windows or Textpander in Mac?
[10:59] <krs> Savenger: soory
[10:59] <mrcreativity> the theme controls changes
[10:59] <Savenger> krs: no problem ;-) but no one understands you in here ;-)
[10:59] <mrcreativity> but not the window decorations
[10:59] <cwgannon> lockdown: it turns out i needed a double-dash rather than single for the options -- it's all fixed now, thanks
[10:59] <aroo> mrcreativity: using gnome?
[10:59] <Leonidas> mrcreativity:  r u using beryl?
[11:00] <mrcreativity> gnome and beryl, but i have configured beryl to use gtk decorations
[11:00] <aroo> mrcreativity: window decorations are separate from the window styles. the decoration controls the borders, title bars, and window behavior. the window style controls widgets, scroll bars, buttons, loading bars and stuff inside the window.
[11:01] <aroo> mrcreativity: are you sure you're changing both decorations and style
[11:01] <mrcreativity> hmm...
[11:01] <mrcreativity> im confused...
[11:01] <aroo> mrcreativity: ?
[11:01] <mrcreativity> when i change the theme, my panels change, the scroll bars change,
[11:01] <mrcreativity> evgerything except the title bar
[11:02] <Wibble-> hi - ubuntu upgraded my kernel, now vmware doesn't work.  It wants me to re-configure, but it can't find the "linux" subdir of the kernel headers directory (which are installed according to aptitude - provided by linux-libc-dev 2.6.20-16.29 - my kernel vn is now 2.6.20-16 rather than -15) how can I get the appropriate headers installed?
[11:02] <aroo> mrcreativity: are you using gnomes theme manager
[11:02] <aroo> mrcreativity: or beryls
[11:02] <mrcreativity> aroo...the gnome theme manager
[11:02] <tarzeau> Wibble-: want to try virtualbox?
[11:02] <Wibble-> tarzeau: not really - I've already got a vmware machine set up I want to boot ;)
[11:03] <Savenger> krs: no problem ;-) but no one understands you in here ;-)
[11:03] <Savenger> Zyxus: do you have any idea? It's for that openmoko. I downloaded the dev-stuff for it, and after that I had to chroot into a dir of that stuff.
[11:03] <tarzeau> Wibble-: and ubuntu don't have the kernel headers you want?
[11:03] <mrcreativity> is the beryl theme manager the same as emerald theme manager? if yes, beryl is using gtk as the default for window decorations
[11:03] <tarzeau> Wibble-: try a later kernel?
[11:03] <TurtleBoots> !font
[11:03] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[11:03] <gronbaek> Wibble-: When you updated the kernel, did you also update the haeders used when vmware-configure compiles the modules for your kernel?
[11:04] <Wibble-> tarzeau: correct... ubuntu upgraded the kernel two days ago and I only just tried the virtual machine,,, it needs a new kernel module, but the headers which are installed don't seem to give vmware what it needs
[11:04] <Wibble-> gronbaek: aptitude suggests the kernel headers are installed (linux-headers-2.6.20-16, which matches uname -a)
[11:04] <Wibble-> and the directory *does* exist, but does not have a "linux" sub-directory
[11:04] <marfeath> Wibble-: get module-assistant, then type sudo m-a update,prepare and that should set it up for you
[11:05] <tarzeau> Wibble-: they are exactly the same version?
[11:05] <Wibble-> tarzeau: yes
[11:05] <tarzeau> Wibble-: the package of linux-source or linux-headers must be the same like linux-image (including revision)
[11:05] <tarzeau> Wibble-: are you very damn sure?
[11:05] <tarzeau> Wibble-: what which vmware version?
[11:05] <Wibble-> I shall check again :)
[11:05] <tarzeau> Wibble-: the 5.x has problem with very new linux kernels
[11:05] <tarzeau> Wibble-: try 6.x
[11:05] <Leonidas> Is there any way i can install glibc-2.4 on dapper? i get glibc-2.3.5-0ubuntu1 only to install thru apt-get
[11:06] <mrcreativity> i disabled beryl, and now eeverything is back to normal
[11:06] <mrcreativity> thanks everyone
[11:06] <unagi> can anyone help me......ubuntu is giving me errors when i try to install updates
[11:06] <mrcreativity> can anyone help me with real player please? i cant seem to change the volume
[11:07] <bubblybedsgirl> j
[11:07] <voorhees86> hey any body there?
[11:07] <wietz0r> !ask
[11:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:07] <Wibble-> I found a vmware-server-kernel-modules in apt! I'm gonna try that one... maybe that'll update when apt decides to upgrade the kernel ;)
[11:07] <wietz0r> !ask | voorhees86
[11:07] <ubotu> voorhees86: please see above
[11:07] <voorhees86> im having problems with the boot
[11:07] <bubblybedsgirl> wibble tim?
[11:07] <wietz0r> voorhees86: what boot ?
[11:08] <voorhees86> i just install the ubuntu, and my system dont boot right
[11:08] <mrcreativity> i cant seem to change the realplayer volume,
[11:08] <wietz0r> mrcreativity: use a proper video player, like mplayer
[11:08] <Leonidas> mrcreativity:  i wud recommend Rythmbox or Amarok to play audio & music
[11:08] <voorhees86> they just boot when i boot form cd and choose the option, boot form fist hard drive
[11:08] <mrcreativity> but how do i play rmvb files? i
[11:08] <Wibble-> marfeath: thank you - that worked just great.
[11:08] <wietz0r> mrcreativity: mplayer plays them
[11:09] <wietz0r> voorhees86: It's a problem with your grub configuratioin
[11:09] <wietz0r> !grub | voorhees86
[11:09] <ubotu> voorhees86: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:09] <marfeath> Wibble-: your welcome :P
[11:09] <unagi> 'could not download all repository indexes'
[11:09] <unagi> any ideas?
[11:09] <mrcreativity> do i need to install extra codecs?
[11:09] <bubblybedsgirl> anyone got the nvidia 3d driver working on latest ubuntu witha 8800gts card ?
[11:10] <tarzeau> bubblybedsgirl: which ubuntu? which nvidia driver?
[11:10] <wietz0r> mrcreativity: You need to install mplayer
[11:10] <eelmoo> hey
[11:10] <TheUni5> hello
[11:10] <mrcreativity> doing it as we speak
[11:10] <tarzeau> bubblybedsgirl: 32 or 64bit?
[11:10] <awenasidilisome> i just got a toshiba e750 and i can't get any pdf readers to run on it anyone got a clue how to fix it
[11:10] <marfeath> mrcreativity: I've had poor luck playng rvmb in linux, you shoudl look into converting these files to xvid or something
[11:10] <bubblybedsgirl> 32 bit
[11:10] <bubblybedsgirl> though i am runing a dual core cpu
[11:10] <tarzeau> bubblybedsgirl: so what?
[11:10] <bubblybedsgirl> i have the x86 version installed
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[11:10] <tarzeau> bubblybedsgirl: just install the binary driver?
[11:10] <Leonidas> mrcreativity:  totem also runs them fine
[11:10] <wietz0r> voorhees86: Reaaaaaaaad.
[11:10] <mrcreativity> marfeath...realplayer plays them perfectly, except that i change the colume
[11:10] <bubblybedsgirl> x crashes
[11:10] <tarzeau> bubblybedsgirl: error log online?
[11:10] <bubblybedsgirl> or rather
[11:11] <bubblybedsgirl> wont start
[11:11] <bubblybedsgirl> erm
[11:11] <bubblybedsgirl> sec
[11:11] <voorhees86> i just read and a run the exacly command form that page
[11:11] <tarzeau> bubblybedsgirl: your kernel or ubuntu kernel?
[11:11] <bubblybedsgirl> ubuntu
[11:11] <marfeath> mrcreativity: I can usually get them to play, I just reccomend a better codec that works under a stable player
[11:11] <asdf_> Does anyone know if it is possible to run autohotkey scripts in Ubuntu?
[11:12] <gerro> does anyone know what the sr0 device would be called?
[11:12] <Leonidas> Is there any way i can install glibc-2.4 on dapper? i get glibc-2.3.5-0ubuntu1 only to install thru apt-get
[11:12] <pyrak> has anyone developed a patch for the issue with headphone insertion not turning off main speakers?
[11:12] <marfeath> Leonidas: Why would you need to revert that?
[11:12] <gerro> pyrak: yeah use feisty and that problem is fixed otherwise install latest alsa driver
[11:12] <erUSUL> gerro: /dev/sr0 ??
[11:12] <asdf_> Does anyone know if you can run autohotkey scripts in ubuntu?
[11:12] <gerro> erUSUL: yes what device would that be?
[11:13] <Leonidas> marfeath:  i need to run truecrypt
[11:13] <eni> guys i installed skype and i have to edit which are my devices, but there are a lot.. like HDA Intel and things, is there a way to knw which is the microphone and which are the speakers
[11:13] <marfeath> Leonidas: And it requires and older version of glibc?
[11:13] <Zyxus> gerro: try cdrom or dvd
[11:13] <erUSUL> gerro: an ATAPI (cd/dvd readers/burners) device or Scsi optical device (cd/dvd readers/burners)
[11:13] <Souljah> anyone here.. i have a quick question
[11:14] <unagi> is there anything in ubuntu similar to windows task manager?
[11:14] <marfeath> unagi: gnome-system-monitor
[11:14] <Souljah> in ubuntu v5.10.. does it have a LIVE CD function
[11:14] <pyrak> gerro, hmmm... i'm using feisty and its not fixt...
[11:14] <doc|work> unagi: open up a terminal and type 'top' :)
[11:14] <angel_> how can i transfer files from my desktop to my ipod? im using ubuntu but i cant transfer my mp3 files to my ipod
[11:14] <Leonidas> marfeath:   i hav installed it from apt-get, it installed f9 , now when i run it it gives me error
[11:14] <unagi> ty marfeath
[11:14] <gerro> erUSUL Zyxus: my laptop has switchable floppy/cdrom thing and it thinks the one object currently inserted is both so I think removing all floppy support from kernel will fix that
[11:14] <marfeath> np
[11:14] <gerro> erUSUL Zyxus: would that work?
[11:14] <preaction> angel_: sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[11:14] <unagi> also im getting some errors when trying to isntall updates
[11:14] <Leonidas> marfeath:   truecrypt: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by truecrypt)
[11:14] <unagi> any idea why?
[11:14] <Souljah> in ubuntu v5.10.. does it have a LIVE CD function
[11:15] <unagi> Could not download all repository indexes
[11:15] <sebastian> can someone please try do connect to "irc.thg.se" for me?
[11:15] <asdf_> Does anyone know of a text substitution utility for Linux like Texter in Windows or Textpander in Mac?
[11:15] <shutdownrunner> can you connect to http://tnij.org/3v9 ?
[11:15] <erUSUL> gerro: dunno sorry
[11:15] <tony_00021> hi all! simple question i have searched for auto-start of beryl on feisty without avail any links or help?
[11:15] <angel_> preaction whats next after installing it?
[11:15] <Souljah> in ubuntu v5.10.. does it have a LIVE CD function
[11:15] <preaction> angel_: run it?
[11:15] <marfeath> Leonidas: that is a dangerous lib to change, i dont reccomend it.  Have you looked into luks?
[11:15] <Souljah> i just need a quick answer guys
[11:15] <Zyxus> gerro: use udev rule to set synlink from sr0 to cdrom/dvd
[11:15] <Souljah> please answer it
[11:16] <Solid> hi, anyone made pcsx2 work on ubuntu, at least the bios?
[11:16] <Igr> hi, how i set rootpassword in ubuntu??
[11:16] <erUSUL> asdf_: sed + reg expresions ??
[11:16] <Souljah> does ubuntu v5.10 have a live cd function
[11:16] <asdf_> erUSUL: what are reg expressions?
[11:16] <erUSUL> !root | Igr
[11:16] <Leonidas> marfeath:  okaym i dunno about luks
[11:16] <ubotu> Igr: do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:16] <tarzeau> Igr: sudo passwd
[11:16] <preaction> !root | Igr
[11:16] <ibanex> asdf_: vim expressions?
[11:16] <gerro> erUsul Zyxus: I have a live cd and need to access some form of console to try editing that
[11:16] <angel_> but where can i find the program?
[11:16] <preaction> angel_: in the menu?
[11:16] <asdf_> ibanex: I'm looking for something that will replace text in any app, not just vim -- firefox specifically
[11:16] <erUSUL> asdf_: regular espressions
[11:16] <marfeath> Leonidas: I'm using it on my whole drive, and it will be sufficient security for what you need, check out using that instead.
[11:16] <angel_> i have this in my installation
[11:16] <angel_> sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[11:16] <angel_> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[11:16] <angel_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:16] <angel_>   ymessenger: Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2 (>= 0.13.0) but it is not going to be installed
[11:16] <angel_>               Depends: libssl0.9.6 but it is not installable
[11:16] <angel_>               Depends: xlibs (> 3.3.6) but it is not installable
[11:16] <marfeath> !luks | Leonidas
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about luks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <angel_> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[11:17] <preaction> !paste | angel_
[11:17] <ubotu> angel_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:17] <grimboy_uk> Anyone know how I might find out the name of the current machine?
[11:17] <ibanex> asdf_: gottcha, dunno
[11:17] <asdf_> erUSUL: can you explain?
[11:17] <Zyxus> gerro: udev rules are run at boot when devices are recognized
[11:17] <pyrak> gerro, synaptic says i already have the latest feisty installation of alsa... perhaps i need something else to make linux recognize my headphone jack?
[11:17] <nickrud> grimboy_uk, hostname
[11:17] <grimboy_uk> Thanks
[11:17] <angel_> !paste | angel_
[11:18] <Souljah> does ubuntu v5.10 have a live cd function
[11:18] <Souljah> :)
[11:18] <erUSUL> asdf_: sed -e 's/find/replace/' < oldfile > newfile will replace (with replace ;)) all instances of find in the oldfile and put the result in newfile (text files)
[11:18] <aroo> 5.1? ouch
[11:18] <Souljah> i want to know becuase i have an old pc
[11:18] <tony_00021> grimboy_uk: just start a gnome terminal session, what u find before the at sign id the name of your computer
[11:18] <Souljah> with 128mb ram
[11:18] <Souljah> and i can't run any higher than 5.1
[11:18] <preaction> angel_: it means that it can't install ymessenger, but you installed gtkpod
[11:18] <asdf_> erUSUL: I'm talking about on the fly substition like "hj" + enter will replace hj with Hello, John
[11:18] <preaction> Souljah: why not? use xubuntu fiesty, should work fine
[11:18] <Solid> hi, anyone made pcsx2 work on ubuntu, at least the bios?
[11:19] <Leonidas> marfeath:  ok.. thanx , i will give luks a shot
[11:19] <aroo> my 128mb laptop runs xubuntu 7.04
[11:19] <grimboy_uk> tony_00021, Yeah, thanks, but I can use hostname from a script.
[11:19] <pyrak> nevermind, i hadn't enabled headphone jack sense
[11:19] <Souljah> preaction
[11:19] <pyrak> thanks
[11:19] <Souljah> it says 256mb ram minimum
[11:19] <marfeath> Leonidas: it is alot better maintained in linux that truecrypt, i spent a long time on this... good luck
[11:19] <Souljah> my old pc has 128
[11:19] <erUSUL> asdf_: ooops!
[11:19] <marfeath> Souljah: You can install with the "alternate install disk"
[11:19] <tony_00021> grimboy_uk: try the command hostname
[11:19] <Aviel15> guys
[11:20] <Aviel15> i got new ubuntu!!
[11:20] <Aviel15> sey mzl tov
[11:20] <surviver> gratz
[11:20] <Aviel15> hh
[11:20] <marfeath> Souljah: you can install feisty on that computer just fine
[11:20] <Aviel15> mzl tov
[11:20] <pyrak> can someone suggest a bittorent client?
[11:20] <Souljah> really
[11:20] <Souljah> ok then
[11:20] <preaction> Souljah: try anyway? it just means a lot of disk swapping. you may also want to look at fluxubuntu or something lightweight like xubuntu or similar (iceboxwm is small i think)
[11:20] <eni> HOW DO I FIND how the built-in microphone in my laptop is called [the device name]  so i can configure skype correctly !
[11:20] <Aviel15> and how i cant install proftpd
[11:20] <aroo> Souljah: my 128mb laptop runs xubuntu 7.04
[11:20] <marfeath> pyrak: rtorrent or ctorrent
[11:20] <Solid> pyrak ktorrent transmission deluge
[11:20] <tony_00021> pyrak what are you requisites
[11:20] <Souljah> thanks for the info guys
[11:20] <Souljah> i won't bug you all now
[11:20] <Souljah> :D
[11:20] <aroo> Souljah: might need alternate cd though
[11:20] <angel_> but i cant find the gtkpod on my menu
[11:20] <bluefox83> eni, probably lspci
[11:20] <Souljah> link to alternate?
[11:20] <marfeath> you will need the alternate disk
[11:21] <pyrak> meh, something simple... just the default one doesn't let me have more than one dl at once for some reason
[11:21] <aroo> Souljah: should just be up with the other isos
[11:21] <DShepherd> pyrak, deluge
[11:21] <DShepherd> !info deluge | pyrak
[11:21] <Solid> pyrak ktorrent
[11:21] <ubotu> pyrak: Package deluge does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:21] <Souljah> ok
[11:21] <asdf_> Can anyone explain how to get this going? http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Snippits?content=52197
[11:21] <Paranoiak> hello everybody
[11:22] <angel_> preaction: but i cant find gtkpod on my menu
[11:22] <eni> bluefox83, lspci and what to grep ?
[11:22] <c13ply> hey guys
[11:22] <bluefox83> eni, i have no idea...look through it all and find something that says a microphone
[11:22] <c13ply> i've got problem with cedega 6.0
[11:23] <asdf_> Can anyone explain how to get setup with Snippit?  The App page is here: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Snippits?content=52197
[11:23] <c13ply> any1 can help me/
[11:23] <bubblybedsgirl> tarzeau: you get the url?
[11:23] <preaction> angel_: it's not under Applications > Sound & Video?
[11:23] <preaction> !anyone | c13ply
[11:23] <ubotu> c13ply: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[11:23] <preaction> !aolspeak | c13ply
[11:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aolspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <c13ply> when i open game in cedega
[11:24] <wietz0r> preaction: lol pwnd
[11:24] <angel_> ok tnx it just appear now
[11:24] <c13ply> i ve got error with
[11:24] <c13ply> MOZILLA ACTIVEX
[11:24] <gumby600m> I'm trying to track down why my laptop keeps crashing.  I was looking through the dmesg log and found this: "[19919.104000]  pccard: PCMCIA card inserted into slot 1"... only the funny thing is, although i have a pcmcia slot, i have never ever put a card in there since I've gotten my laptop.... Any ideas on what this means??
[11:24] <c13ply> i dont know whats i have to do
[11:24] <preaction> !enter | c13ply
[11:24] <ubotu> c13ply: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:24] <wietz0r> c13ply: /join #cedega
[11:24] <c13ply> ;/
[11:24] <tarzeau> bubblybedsgirl: no?
[11:24] <aroo> c13ply: this isn't cedega channel
[11:24] <asdf_> Can anyone explain how to run a ruby script?  ./scriptname doesn't seem to do anything
[11:24] <bubblybedsgirl> i pm'ed it
[11:24] <pyrak> solid, will ktorrent work with my gnome installation?
[11:25] <preaction> asdf_: ruby <scriptname> perhaps?
[11:25] <wietz0r> c13ply: I mean it, join the cedega channel
[11:25] <bubblybedsgirl> http://www.superdsblog.com/Xorg.0.log
[11:25] <c13ply> kk
[11:25] <joseAway> asdf_, scripts must be +x and have the #!/whatever/ruby at the top to be executed in that manner
[11:25] <wietz0r> asdf_: chmod + x <name>.rb && ./<name>.rb
[11:25] <aroo> pyrak: if you install ktorrent you'll have to install dependencies but it will work
[11:25] <ipx> Is there any good hdd-test program? Just installed a new computer and cannot partition it (gets error during the process on both windows installation and gparted) and want to see if it is broken.
[11:26] <asdf_> preaction, joseAway, wietz0r: can any of you look at this script/app and explain how to run it...http://www.mail-archive.com/gnu-emacs-sources@gnu.org/msg00685.html
[11:26] <cobra306> `DRM_VBLANK_SECONDARY' undeclared (first use in this function) --> i get this error when compiling Mesa3D, can anybody tell me what is the problem ??
[11:26] <Solid> pyrak yeah, you've to download some kde libs, everything should be fine
[11:27] <preaction> asdf_: that's not ruby, that's lisp. and it's meant to be used inside emacs
[11:27] <VivekShamra1> Is there any good hdd-test program? Just installed a new computer and cannot partition it (gets error during the process on both windows installation and gparted) and want to see if it is broken.
[11:27] <tarzeau> VivekShamra1: badblocks
[11:27] <asdf_> preaction: I thought that app was for substitution anywhere?
[11:27] <VivekShamra1> how to get rid of it and have it working ?
[11:28] <preaction> asdf_: i don't know, but i do know that it's lisp
[11:28] <Pirate_Hunter> hello people my keyboard is messed up in ubuntu i.e shift+2 gives me @ instead of speach marks and thats not the only keys giving me the wrong settings - how do I fix this?
[11:28] <tarzeau> Pirate_Hunter: x or console?
[11:28] <VivekShamra1> tarzeau : how to get rid of it and have it working ?
[11:29] <tarzeau> Pirate_Hunter: try setxkbmap de ?
[11:29] <asdf_> t
[11:29] <tarzeau> VivekShamra1: the tool is called "badblocks" :)
[11:29] <VivekShamra1> tarzeau : ah gr8
[11:29] <VivekShamra1> tarzeau : thnks
[11:29] <tarzeau> VivekShamra1: you're welcome
[11:29] <VivekShamra1> tarzeau: lemme google it
[11:29] <Pirate_Hunter> tarzeau: sorry didnt get that, what should I try and what does it do?
[11:29] <tarzeau> VivekShamra1: it has got a manual page
[11:29] <tarzeau> VivekShamra1: and it should be already there
[11:30] <VivekShamra1> ok
[11:30] <tarzeau> Pirate_Hunter: type in that command in a termina and see if it fixes your problem
[11:30] <tarzeau> Pirate_Hunter: if so just tell your x config file to use de instead of us
[11:30] <Jack_Sparrow> I need someone that has ati mobility 7500 working (preferably in Dapper)
[11:31] <asdf_> Can xautomation be used for text substituion?
[11:31] <mac_uk_00> /exit
[11:32] <Pirate_Hunter> tarzeau nope didnt help it gives me this, Error loading new keyboard description
[11:32] <fuzzy_logic> mac_uk_00: ./quit :)
[11:32] <tarzeau> Pirate_Hunter: strange. dunno then
[11:33] <Pirate_Hunter> tarzeau lol np ill wait till someone helps me
[11:33] <kristi> Amarok keeps crashing every time I drag an mp3 file to the playlist.  This is a fresh install... any ideas?
[11:33] <bur[n] er> kristi: update to 1.4.6 :)  kubuntu.org
[11:34] <angel_> what's with this error? Error initialising iPod: Problem creating iPod directory or file: '/media/disk/iPod_Control/iPod_Control'.
[11:34] <Pirate_Hunter> hello people my keyboard is messed up in ubuntu i.e shift+2 gives me @ instead of speach marks and thats not the only keys giving me the wrong settings - how do I fix this?
[11:34] <kitche> Pirate_Hunter: seems like you picked a us keyboard
[11:34] <kristi> bur[n] er: Uhm, Amarok is fully updated (to the Ubuntu reps, anyway)... and that doesn't help anyway.
[11:34] <bur[n] er> Pirate_Hunter: change the layout away from US English?
[11:35] <bur[n] er> kristi: their are seperate repos on kubuntu.org that show the amarok 1.4.6 repos
[11:35] <bur[n] er> kristi: it was released a few days ago
[11:35] <dotpavan> asdf_, snippit uses xautomation and erb (embedded ruby), I installed both, still configuring..
[11:35] <kristi> bur[n] er: Ah... when I'm not using Kubuntu, nor do I feel I should be forced to update again... you know?
[11:35] <kristi> This makes no sense.
[11:35] <Pirate_Hunter> bur[n] er + kitche zeha tried that changed it to UK but nothing has changed do i need to restart_
[11:35] <angel_> can any one help me with this error
[11:35] <angel_> Error initialising iPod: Problem creating iPod directory or file: '/media/disk/iPod_Control/iPod_Control'.
[11:35] <bur[n] er> kristi: I'm sure you don't "have" to and there's a way to fix it, but I'd spend the time updating to the most current instead of bughunting on an older version
[11:36] <bur[n] er> kristi: you don't need kubuntu... you just add the kubuntu repos... "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install amarok" and done :)
[11:38] <Pirate_Hunter> hello people my keyboard is messed up in ubuntu i.e shift+2 gives me @ instead of speach marks and thats not the only keys giving me the wrong settings - how do I fix this?
[11:38] <bubblybedsgirl> hello, im having problems getting my nvidia 8800gts to wrok in 3d
[11:39] <aroo> shift+2 on my keyboard should yield @
[11:39] <bubblybedsgirl> s/wrok/work
[11:39] <aroo> Pirate_Hunter: is your keyboard a different type?
[11:39] <wietz0r> bubblybedsgirl: always close your regexes
[11:39] <bubblybedsgirl> :)
[11:39] <wietz0r> bubblybedsgirl: Give some more info about the matter
[11:39] <bubblybedsgirl> i've tried 2 things
[11:39] <bubblybedsgirl> 1. system -> preferences -> desktop effects
[11:39] <bubblybedsgirl> which changes my x conf
[11:40] <bubblybedsgirl> and requires a restart of X
[11:40] <bubblybedsgirl> X wont start and yields this log : http://www.superdsblog.com/Xorg.0.log
[11:40] <Pirate_Hunter> aroo: in what way? it a normal keyboard but the layout is not being picked up and I dont know the model for a standard pc in the keyboard layout
[11:40] <unagi> how do you revert xconf to an original state?
[11:40] <thompa> whats the name of the network applet that shows wireless places. i need it back
[11:40] <bubblybedsgirl> then i found some package to download with apt-get
[11:40] <Commander-Ape> which package do i need to bind a command or a script to my remote control?
[11:40] <uberushaximus> you could just delete it
[11:40] <bubblybedsgirl> nvidia-glx-something
[11:40] <thompa> is it net monitor?
[11:40] <bubblybedsgirl> this crashed
[11:40] <unagi> ubuntu rebuilds it?
[11:40] <bubblybedsgirl> or rather, wouldnt start
[11:40] <unagi> anyone had ubuntu crash often to a black screen with green lines?
[11:40] <uberushaximus> or do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xorg
[11:40] <aroo> Pirate_Hunter: i'm confused what you're asking. you said that shift+2 gives you an @ symbol which seems correct for every keyboard I've ever seen
[11:40] <gerro> I loaded up install cd and pressed f6 is there anyway I can set boot option to do "modprobe -r floppy
[11:40] <gerro> rm /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko" or something equal to that?
[11:40] <wietz0r> bubblybedsgirl: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device! Whell there's your problem
[11:41] <thompa> netmonitor i dont want
[11:41] <bubblybedsgirl> works ok with the nv driver
[11:41] <Pirate_Hunter> aroo: im in the UK it is supposed to be speech marks not @
[11:41] <wietz0r> bubblybedsgirl: Let me flex my google skills
[11:41] <bubblybedsgirl> hehe
[11:41] <aroo> Pirate_Hunter: speech marks as in quotations?
[11:41] <herc> how do i determine what kernel i have in terminal?
[11:42] <wietz0r> herc: uname -a
[11:42] <Paranoiak> uname -a
[11:42] <kitche> Pirate_Hunter: then you picked the us keyboard layout most likely
[11:42] <herc> thanks
[11:42] <Pirate_Hunter> aroo: yeha thats right
[11:42] <gerro> bubblybedsgirl: do not toy with different custom kernels, nvidia-glx-new legacy or regular, it will screw your system over and be very difficult to find help in setting it up so that you can use regular nvidia driver
[11:42] <aroo> Pirate_Hunter: you should change keyboard settings to your local layout
[11:42] <bubblybedsgirl> i didnt know that was a custom kernel
[11:42] <gerro> bubblybedsgirl: I learned that lesson hard way this morning trying to delete everything releated to nvidia so I could manually install the driver myself
[11:42] <bubblybedsgirl> just thought it was a driver :)
[11:43] <Pirate_Hunter> aroo: I ahve I said that before but it is still showing doing the samething all my key are changed and the uk dvork layout doesn't pick up
[11:43] <gerro> bubblybedsgirl: what package you talking about?
[11:43] <bubblybedsgirl> the 8800gts is quite a new card, so may not be supported properly yet
[11:43] <wietz0r> bubblybedsgirl: Not a whole lot of success stories with the 8800
[11:43] <bubblybedsgirl> the one you mentioned gerro
[11:43] <Commander-Ape> which package do i need to bind a command or a script to my remote control?
[11:43] <bubblybedsgirl> nope not alot
[11:43] <Cain> how do i see what graphics card i have?
[11:44] <wietz0r> bubblybedsgirl: amd64 ?
[11:44] <Cain> grep : lspci something?
[11:44] <bubblybedsgirl> i have a nice black border down both sides of my screen with the nv driver
[11:44] <bubblybedsgirl> nope, x86
[11:44] <bubblybedsgirl> Intel Dual Core
[11:44] <cobra306> `DRM_VBLANK_SECONDARY' undeclared (first use in this function) --> i get this error when compiling Mesa3D, can anybody tell me what is the problem ?
[11:44] <wietz0r> Crapola
[11:44] <digitalhav0c> wow have any of you tried windows vista?
[11:44] <bubblybedsgirl> Crapola?
[11:44] <bubblybedsgirl> digitalhav0c: i have
[11:44] <digitalhav0c> i like it
[11:44] <digitalhav0c> kind of
[11:44] <Commander-Ape> ** which package do i need to bind a command or a script to my remote control? **
[11:44] <bubblybedsgirl> lol
[11:45] <wietz0r> bubblybedsgirl: Yes I can't say crap in this channel, so you have to add more letters
[11:45] <digitalhav0c> :)
[11:45] <wietz0r> bubblybedsgirl: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851&highlight=nvidia+edgy
[11:45] <bubblybedsgirl> i like the prettyness of it
[11:45] <digitalhav0c> yeah
[11:45] <bubblybedsgirl> but it's harder to navigate around
[11:45] <falcon866> why are all my ship it requests not getting approved
[11:45] <bubblybedsgirl> stupid annoying things
[11:45] <digitalhav0c> im still trying to get used to it
[11:45] <bubblybedsgirl> so am i
[11:45] <digitalhav0c> yeah i know what youre saying
[11:45] <bubblybedsgirl> i've had it 3 months :P
[11:45] <kitche> falcon866: where do you live but shipit has a limit now
[11:45] <digitalhav0c> i run ubuntu on my tablet though
[11:45] <bubblybedsgirl> i knew my way round xp like the back of my hand
[11:45] <digitalhav0c> x41t
[11:45] <bubblybedsgirl> and then some
[11:46] <digitalhav0c> yeah me too
[11:46] <falcon866> i ordered one back in april and i got it
[11:46] <shawn34> what is the 'disk' group for in linux ?
[11:46] <falcon866> but they are turning me down
[11:46] <falcon866> they turned me down in may and june
[11:46] <digitalhav0c> falcon866 what do you mean turning  you down?
[11:46] <falcon866> not approving me
[11:47] <falcon866> i mean not approving the ship it requests
[11:47] <digitalhav0c> oh ok
[11:47] <Zyxus> shawn34: ls -al /dev|grep disk
[11:47] <digitalhav0c> who are you ordering from?
[11:47] <kitche> falcon866: think they only send out so much to one person now
[11:47] <bubblybedsgirl> wietz0r: just going to try that
[11:47] <falcon866> so baisclly one request per release
[11:47] <digitalhav0c> oh ok
[11:48] <wietz0r> bubblybedsgirl: It's for edgy tho
[11:48] <shawn34> Zyxus, is it safe to add myself to this group?
[11:48] <Zyxus> shawn34: definitely
[11:48] <bubblybedsgirl> true
[11:48] <bubblybedsgirl> well worth a shot
[11:48] <falcon866> i only have a breezy badger cd
[11:49] <pike_> shawn34: but shut down immediately if you start to smell anything burning
[11:51] <shawn34> pike_, what do you mean?
[11:51] <ibob63> I have got desktop effect working - but how do I get the "cube" view?
[11:51] <falcon866> is breezy still supported
[11:51] <gnomefreak> ibob63: try #ubuntu-effects
[11:51] <Pirate_Hunter> off topic: I want to conenct to irc.irchiway.net what is the command to connect to another server without disconnecting from this server?
[11:52] <andreasdohl> anyone good at networking in ubuntu?
[11:52] <gerro> anyone know how to remaster a xubuntu cd to remove floppy support or a simple boot option to disable fd0 (floppy)
[11:52] <alecw1> What are some good video editing applications available for LInux? I'm looking for any sort, HD editing especially. What are some suggestions?
[11:52] <wietz0r> gerro: What ?
[11:52] <Iya> omg
[11:52] <gnomefreak> Pirate_Hunter: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:52] <gnomefreak> falcon866: no
[11:52] <ibob63> thanks gnomefreak
[11:52] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:53] <shawn34> pike_, what do you mean?
[11:53] <Paranoiak> alecw1 google ubuntu studio, there are some packages inside that would interess you
[11:53] <wietz0r> alecw1: Cinerella, Kino,
[11:53] <gerro> wietz0r: read the last post here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/95857
[11:53] <alecw1> Paranoiak, I'm just looking for packages, not an OS.
[11:54] <andreasdohl> im having problems connecting to my bthomehub router... with cable and wireless
[11:54] <pike_> shawn34: jk sorry
[11:54] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-studio | alecw1
[11:54] <ubotu> alecw1: ubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.
[11:54] <gerro> wietz0r: I can't use any sort of ubuntu until I kill off my imaginary floppy drive caused by my switchable floppy/cdrom dock that sucks so horribly
[11:54] <andreasdohl> sometimes it gives an ip, sometimes it dont. sometimes i can ping it, sometimes it gives "operation not permitted"
[11:55] <Paranoiak> yes but in this release you can find interesting packages
[11:55] <andreasdohl> ive chcked in windows and everything is working fine
[11:55] <hyperb0lix> andreasdohl: got root?
[11:55] <andreasdohl> yes
[11:55] <andreasdohl> sudo
[11:55] <alecw1> Thanks. :)(
[11:55] <hyperb0lix> Hmm
[11:55] <andreasdohl> it worked just fine before i reset my router... i didnt change anything on my ubuntu
[11:55] <wietz0r> gerro: install from usb?
[11:55] <wietz0r> gerro: or null-modem cable
[11:55] <wietz0r> gerro: or floppy
[11:56] <andreasdohl> no one knows what may be wrong?
[11:56] <gerro> wietz0r: fine usb method, do you have a link to a guide for that?
[11:57] <monitor> oi
[11:57] <shawn34> Zyxus, does it suppose a security risk to add myself to the 'disk' group
[11:57] <gerro> wietz0r: I don't want a system that uses fat32 or some broken down 6.06 ubuntu I want feisty 7.04 and working normally as if installed through cd
[11:57] <Cain> if im using Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device what should i use for xgl nvidia or ati?
[11:57] <dosage> Anyone have any suggestions on how to troubleshoot a total system hang (no mouse / keyboard response)
[11:57] <gerro> wietz0r: most those guides for usb install on ubuntu site are horrible
[11:58] <andreasdohl> dosage check your var/messages log
[11:58] <andreasdohl> var/log maybe...
[11:58] <monitor> ???????????????
[11:58] <dosage> I have scanned through those, but as I am a newbi, I am not really sure what I am looking for
[11:58] <andreasdohl> tried the recovery?
[11:58] <dosage> recovery?
[11:59] <pike_> dosage: cat /var/log/messages first off what is around time of hangup?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> Cain: neither if you are not using a nvidia or ati card
[11:59] <gnomefreak> Cain: for intel card use intel drivers ;)
[11:59] <pike_> dosage: nvidia card?
[11:59] <dosage> ATI
[11:59] <pike_> bah
[11:59] <Cain> alright gnomefreak
[11:59] <crdlb> Cain, and you really should use AIGLX
[11:59] <crdlb> it would be much faster
[11:59] <andreasdohl> dosdage: you shoud have a recovery option in your grub
[11:59] <pike_> dosage: or dmesg
[12:00] <seodavi1> sorry, first time on irc, dont want to but in on what seems to be you trying to help dosage.  Anyone free i can ask for a few bits of help?
[12:00] <andreasdohl> is it a usb keyboard/mice dosage?
[12:00] <gnomefreak> mon^rch: you would have to aska  question before you can get answered
[12:00] <dosage> laptop, touchpad
[12:00] <jrib> seodavi1: welcome, you can just ask the channel your question.  Someone will try to help you if they know how
[12:00] <gnomefreak> seodavi1: just ask yoru question if someone knows they will answer you
[12:00] <rvb> I connected an external usb harddrive to my computer, next time I started it Ubuntu wouldn't start, now I can only access the windows partition (after doing fixmbr to get rid of grub). I've tried reinstalling Ubuntu but that doesn't work, now I tried Debian which won't install either. I've written a thread on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2906074 about it which has more info and...
[12:01] <rvb> ...would appreciate if someone could take the time to check it out. Thanks.
[12:01] <dosage> lockups seem to be random
[12:01] <bubblybedsgirl> oh well
[12:01] <bubblybedsgirl> no luck
[12:01] <andreasdohl> owch...