| TheSheep | attention span of a mayfly | 12:32 |
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| === Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get | ||
| === Topic (#xubuntu): set by Pumpernickel at Sun May 20 02:21:34 2007 | ||
| (Jester45/#xubuntu) o... i dont think the choose has it | 06:13 | |
| (Jester45/#xubuntu) i wasnt sure what you where talking about | 06:13 | |
| (Ghostvirus/#xubuntu) yeah, the open/save dialog | 06:13 | |
| === Jester45 shuts down machine to add a new drive (will not leave computer on like last time) | ||
| === Jester45 also doesnt have hotswap | ||
| Jester45 | toasted a brand new 250gb sata 300 drive a week ago | 06:14 |
| jtg23 | alright, i just realized there is no version 6.1(?) so i do need to get one of these wifi cards working under my existing hardware situation | 06:14 |
| Ghostvirus | ouch | 06:14 |
| Jester45 | i was just about to have i dedicated movie storage drive | 06:15 |
| jtg23 | snap, i should make a backup... | 06:15 |
| Jester45 | and it whent pop/band/zap | 06:15 |
| Ghostvirus | i like external HDs | 06:15 |
| Ghostvirus | saves trouble | 06:15 |
| Jester45 | to slow... | 06:15 |
| jtg23 | not once you get it going! | 06:16 |
| jtg23 | i use mine on my mac and it's slow to buffer but not too, too bad | 06:16 |
| jtg23 | you can stream video | 06:16 |
| jtg23 | 8mb cache | 06:16 |
| === Jester45 has a "external" storage called a ftp server | ||
| jtg23 | gotta have it | 06:16 |
| jtg23 | i want one of those hybrid flash ram drives | 06:16 |
| Jester45 | the cache has little to do with what the line can handle | 06:16 |
| jtg23 | oh and to get my wifi card working on xubuntu 7.04 with either the linksys with the broadcom or the airlink with the 1211 chipset | 06:17 |
| Chikubu | hope the warranty covered it | 06:17 |
| Jester45 | a drive connected via usb will not beat internal or ethernet connected | 06:17 |
| jtg23 | no but the cache helps when you pause the vid to take phone calls and restart it | 06:17 |
| jtg23 | of course not | 06:17 |
| jtg23 | well not gigabit | 06:17 |
| Chikubu | my usb wireless adapater worked with default xubuntu install, didnt need to add anything specail, other than a nice gui to help manage it | 06:19 |
| Jester45 | jtg23, and firewire is a bit faster in the real world... but usb 2 fullspeed *should* be a bit faster but its normaly not | 06:22 |
| Jester45 | and apples fireware 800 is much faster | 06:22 |
| Jester45 | be back in a bit | 06:24 |
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| Chikubu | i want to mount a cd image created with blind write in windows, what util would i use, or do i need to convert to iso? what would i use to convert to iso? | 06:28 |
| BFTD | hi I'm looking for a power point program | 06:28 |
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| Chikubu | the open office suite has presentation software | 06:29 |
| Ghostvirus | Chikubu, what format does blindwrite use? | 06:30 |
| BFTD | Chikubu yeah but ti crashes | 06:32 |
| Chikubu | it writes blind write format | 06:32 |
| Chikubu | makes a blind write image file .bwi | 06:32 |
| Chikubu | think its just raw inside the file | 06:33 |
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| Chikubu | also makes a .bws and .bwt file along with the main but not sure those are completly nessacary | 06:34 |
| Ghostvirus | Chikubu, yeah, i think you'll have to convert to ISO | 06:34 |
| Chikubu | ill start poking around for some utility to do it, how do you mount an .iso? is it built into linux or do i need something | 06:35 |
| Ghostvirus | Chikubu, you can do it from the command line, like "sudo mount /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mountpoint" | 06:36 |
| Chikubu | ok, built in...cool | 06:36 |
| Ghostvirus | or you could install an app like CDemu: http://cdemu.sourceforge.net | 06:36 |
| Ghostvirus | never used it though, so i'm not sure if there are better apps out there | 06:36 |
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| Chikubu | in windows it would be nessacary to run a program to fool windows into thinking it was a cd or the progs wouldnt run, had to mount that way | 06:38 |
| Chikubu | not sure what wines gonna make out of it | 06:38 |
| Chikubu | gonna find out | 06:38 |
| Ghostvirus | yeah, i use daemon tools on xp | 06:38 |
| Jester45 | whats going on | 06:38 |
| Ghostvirus | fun with cd images and virtual drives | 06:39 |
| Jester45 | wine wouldnt know the diffrence if you mounted a iso or had a cd in the drive... just like the rest of the system | 06:39 |
| Jester45 | Ghostvirus, ya... but linux can do as many as you want not only 4 | 06:40 |
| Chikubu | well thats good | 06:40 |
| Jester45 | they problem with wine might be if you dont tell wine where you "cd" drives are | 06:41 |
| Jester45 | unless you mount in /dev/cdrom0 and wine is all ready looking there | 06:41 |
| Ghostvirus | well i've never bothered with mounting ISOs under linux, just a few times in windows for some games | 06:42 |
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| BFTD | ? | 06:43 |
| BFTD | you can do that? | 06:43 |
| Jester45 | yeps | 06:44 |
| BFTD | what program do you use to watch them | 06:44 |
| Jester45 | mplayer or vlc | 06:45 |
| Jester45 | noramly mplayer | 06:45 |
| BFTD | oh | 06:45 |
| BFTD | oh | 06:46 |
| Ghostvirus | oh yeah, i noticed that when i insert an audio cd into my computer, it shows up on my desktop, but xubuntu says it's not mounted | 06:47 |
| Ghostvirus | if i try to mount it, i get some error. is that normal for audio cds? | 06:47 |
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| MetaCube | whats the command to upgrade again? apt-get upgrade? that seems to miss some items | 06:48 |
| Ghostvirus | apt-get dist-upgrade | 06:48 |
| Jester45 | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade | 06:49 |
| Jester45 | or dist-upgrade | 06:49 |
| MetaCube | ah the dist was the one i was trying to remeber thanx | 06:49 |
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| Ghostvirus | so does anyone know what's up with the audio cd thing? | 06:53 |
| Ghostvirus | if i try to play a cd with audacious, it says there aren't any cds mounted, yet grip finds the audio tracks with no problem | 06:55 |
| cjae_ | Ghostvirus, don't think audio discs must be mounted | 06:59 |
| cjae_ | Ghostvirus, http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/music.html | 07:01 |
| Ghostvirus | cjae_, any idea what would cause audacious to think there's no audio cd to play? | 07:02 |
| Ghostvirus | it's not really a big problem, since i rarely play audio cds anyway. maybe it's just an audacious-specific problem, since grip finds the disc just fine | 07:03 |
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| Ghostvirus | hm, after taking a look at the audacious forum, i believe i may have found a solution to my problem | 07:10 |
| Ghostvirus | well since everyone else has already taken off, i guess i'll call it a night too | 07:13 |
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| gerro | few buddies in here earlier were discussing virtualbox so I went to install the ubuntu package at the virtualbox site however it shows a license agreement and doesn't do anything I can't accept or cancel and my entire add/remove apt system is locked up on that package | 08:37 |
| gerro | any ideas? | 08:37 |
| gerro | ohhh never mind I figured it out... have to press arrow key then enter.. | 08:38 |
| gerro | that makes no sense what so ever but it works | 08:38 |
| TheSheep | like most software | 08:40 |
| gerro | I was pressing arrow key to scroll down but it wanted me to press the right arrow key and not the left one | 08:41 |
| gerro | which is really odd | 08:41 |
| gerro | damn its late I'm getting some sleep | 08:42 |
| gerro | byes | 08:42 |
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| DaBeowulf | Please help me, how do I get into the terminal only (No X running) with telinit 3 runlevel without gdm starting up on me? | 12:17 |
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| DaBeowulf | Or what does make gdm restart when I terminate it? | 12:21 |
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| benpicco | Hi, how do I acces a samba share in a Windows server? | 01:16 |
| benpicco | !samba | 01:16 |
| ubotu | samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT | 01:16 |
| benpicco | ah, ok, never mind | 01:17 |
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| benpicco | ok, something is wrong here | 01:44 |
| benpicco | I can log in on the server using smbclient | 01:45 |
| benpicco | but when it comes to mounting the share, I have no acces | 01:45 |
| benpicco | (The account has no password - I did't configure this ;) ) | 01:45 |
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| benpicco | so do I have to leave it blant in fstab? | 01:46 |
| benpicco | *blank | 01:46 |
| benpicco | so username=accountname, password=>blank< | 01:47 |
| benpicco | oh, got 2 go now.. | 01:47 |
| benpicco | any (quick) solution? | 01:48 |
| benpicco | (I just have to press enter when smbclient prompts me for the pw | 01:49 |
| benpicco | - there are no errors while mounting, too, but I always get "Permission Denied" | 01:49 |
| benpicco | where I can acces everything with smbclient | 01:50 |
| benpicco | however, I have to go.. | 01:51 |
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| homebrewcider | what's the best way to get the scanning functions going in my Canon MP510 printer/scanner please? | 03:22 |
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| namelessjon | Is there some way I can make Terminal aware of the paths I set in .bash_profile, without running 'source .bash_profile'? | 04:12 |
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| |jason| | i am trying to build pidgin on xubuntu fiesty -- i seem to recall there was a package that had to be installed first but i cant find it -- can someone point me in the right direction? | 04:20 |
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| gerro | got this old dell latitude and was going to install xubuntu on it but when booting the cd it says Buffer I/O error on device fd0 and the same message for sr0 repeatedly and hasn't done anything yet.. | 05:02 |
| gerro | perhaps a bios setting problem, cd defect, maybe broken hardware? | 05:03 |
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| mig5 | gerro, try the alternate install cd if there is one for xubuntu? | 05:04 |
| mig5 | or does it do that on all boot cds? | 05:04 |
| gerro | this is the first time I've tried a boot cd on it | 05:04 |
| gerro | I've heard dell latitude mentioned a lot in linux support forums so I expected some problems from it | 05:04 |
| mig5 | try booting the cd in another computer and see if it works in that | 05:05 |
| gerro | I have | 05:05 |
| gerro | I used it for 4 other computers installation including one I'm on now | 05:05 |
| gerro | just yesterday I was booting it up on another machine | 05:06 |
| mig5 | have you got any other bootable cds laying around? | 05:06 |
| gerro | not really most them really old copies of ubuntu | 05:06 |
| mig5 | try one of them, just to see if it can boot anything? | 05:06 |
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| Stormx2 | How much memory does a default xubuntu install use with no apps open? | 05:07 |
| gerro | I think 192 | 05:07 |
| mig5 | People have it working on 128mb | 05:07 |
| gerro | but for installing takes 192 | 05:08 |
| mig5 | not with alternate cd | 05:08 |
| gerro | he said with no apps open so i assumed it was live cd | 05:08 |
| mig5 | o yeah ur right, well i guess 128 is bare minimum | 05:09 |
| gerro | it has to do some uncompressing and other stuff to install so needs more ram for doing that | 05:10 |
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| mig5 | yeah | 05:10 |
| gerro | my one computer has 60.5 mb ram so | 05:11 |
| mig5 | with xubuntu? | 05:11 |
| gerro | I sort of gave up on bothering with alternate cd too | 05:11 |
| mig5 | o | 05:11 |
| gerro | nah I use damn small on that one | 05:11 |
| mig5 | thats quite a nice linux, i tried it once | 05:12 |
| gerro | I was hoping to copy over a few settings from it to xubuntu and vica versa | 05:13 |
| gerro | like I got thunar setup on it too | 05:13 |
| mig5 | i dont like thunar, it hangs on me | 05:13 |
| mig5 | im using xfe at the moment | 05:13 |
| gerro | yeah you have to make an index for /usr/bin seeing as it opens there all the time by default | 05:14 |
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| gerro | xfe? | 05:14 |
| mig5 | xfe is like a really light weight file manager thats based on rox | 05:14 |
| mig5 | yeah you have to make an index for /usr/bin seeing as it opens there all the time by default --- how do i do that? | 05:15 |
| gerro | don't know its a feature of ext3 | 05:15 |
| gerro | some sort of command to use | 05:16 |
| gerro | you can do it for all of your folders if you like but it takes little bit extra hard drive space | 05:16 |
| mig5 | ext3 is a type of filesystem isnt it? | 05:16 |
| gerro | yeah but it has lots of features | 05:16 |
| mig5 | i have jornalised something or other, i dont think its ext3 | 05:17 |
| gerro | I also tuned my ext3 for writeback support supposedly things load faster | 05:17 |
| gerro | yeah there are a lot of journalised file systems | 05:17 |
| gerro | like reiserfs is another popular one commonly used on linux | 05:18 |
| mig5 | hmm i dont know what the exact one that i have | 05:18 |
| gerro | use synaptic to check what fcsk your using | 05:18 |
| gerro | you need different tools for different file systems | 05:18 |
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| gerro | mikey! what up man | 05:19 |
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| mig5 | i dont have any fcsk packages installed =( | 05:20 |
| mikeconcepts | what is the extra step I've forgotten to connect to a share created in xubuntu from windows. Windows asks for username and password, but just keeps asking | 05:20 |
| mikeconcepts | permissions thing? | 05:21 |
| TheSheep | mikeconcepts: it's 'fsck' | 05:21 |
| TheSheep | sorry | 05:21 |
| TheSheep | mig5: it's 'fsck' | 05:21 |
| mig5 | thanks, in that case i have ext2 | 05:22 |
| gerro | oops my bad | 05:22 |
| mikeconcepts | the share is on xubuntu and I'm trying to connect to it from windows | 05:22 |
| TheSheep | mig5: just 'fsck' alone should autodetect the filesystem and use apropriate 'fsck.*' automatically | 05:22 |
| mig5 | can i index usr/bin/ if i have ext2? | 05:23 |
| TheSheep | mikeconcepts: you configured it using 'system->shared folders'? | 05:23 |
| mikeconcepts | yes | 05:23 |
| TheSheep | mig5: index? | 05:23 |
| mig5 | yeah you have to make an index for /usr/bin seeing as it opens there all the time by default --- said gerro | 05:24 |
| mig5 | its to make thunar work | 05:24 |
| gerro | that is not the proper term but it functions similar | 05:24 |
| gerro | not thunar its to make things load the file system faster for that directory seeing as it has lots of files | 05:24 |
| TheSheep | first time I hear about it | 05:25 |
| mig5 | i dont get it though, because xfe loads usr/bin and usr/lib quickly | 05:25 |
| TheSheep | mig5: what is the problem? | 05:26 |
| mig5 | thunar hangs on me when i open folders that have lots of stuff in | 05:26 |
| TheSheep | mig5: what version? | 05:27 |
| TheSheep | mig5: which xubuntu are yo using? | 05:27 |
| gerro | mine does the same usually | 05:27 |
| mig5 | 0.8 | 05:27 |
| mig5 | xubuntu 7.04 | 05:27 |
| mig5 | feisty | 05:27 |
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| mig5 | i thought it was just because thunar is still in developerment and so its buggy | 05:28 |
| TheSheep | mig5: how does it hang? is mouse working? numlock? can you restart with alt+ctrl+backspace or do you have to reset your computer manually? | 05:29 |
| TheSheep | mig5: no, Thunar in feisty is stable | 05:29 |
| TheSheep | mig5: should have no bugs | 05:29 |
| gerro | its not hanging its just opening an enormous directory by default every time he browses to find an image for an icon or other small tasks | 05:29 |
| mig5 | just the program hangs, the thunar window goes white and i have to kill the process to get rid of it | 05:30 |
| mig5 | i can still use my computer when it does it | 05:30 |
| gerro | yeah what your system specs mig5? | 05:30 |
| mig5 | 512mb mem, 2500 (1.8ghz) pro | 05:30 |
| TheSheep | that's still bad -- it shouldn't happen | 05:30 |
| gerro | well your case is more serious than mine | 05:31 |
| gerro | no clue why it crashes | 05:31 |
| TheSheep | mig5: works resonably well for me on much weaker box | 05:31 |
| TheSheep | oh well | 05:31 |
| TheSheep | !bugs | mig5 | 05:31 |
| ubotu | mig5: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots | 05:31 |
| gerro | you use a different file system though too | 05:31 |
| mig5 | i dont have any file indexing software like beagle if that would make a difference? | 05:31 |
| TheSheep | mig5: try to include all the details you can think might be relevant | 05:31 |
| mikeconcepts | guess I'll have to manually go through the whole samba setup process manually, figured by now that would have been automated | 05:31 |
| TheSheep | mikeconcepts: no | 05:32 |
| TheSheep | mikeconcepts: sorry, again not to you :) | 05:32 |
| TheSheep | mig5: no | 05:32 |
| TheSheep | mikeconcepts: apparently something went wrong | 05:32 |
| TheSheep | mikeconcepts: but you don't have to go through the *whole* process -- most of the configuration is done | 05:33 |
| mig5 | ill do the bug report thing but I'm ok really because i just use xfe file manager instead | 05:33 |
| mikeconcepts | once I get into it, perhaps the problem will surface | 05:33 |
| TheSheep | mig5: if you report it, it will get fixed :) | 05:34 |
| TheSheep | mig5: I often had bugs fixed the smae day I reported them in xfce | 05:34 |
| mig5 | umm do i have to sign up for this launch pad thing or is it the same as my forum account? | 05:35 |
| TheSheep | mig5: not sure, you put your e-mail as a login | 05:35 |
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| mig5 | no its not, i have to make an account | 05:36 |
| TheSheep | mig5: but it works for wiki too :) | 05:36 |
| occidere | Hello everybody. Does anybody know, how to stop the autoplay feature for audio cds of gxine? I'm running Feisty with Xfce. | 05:36 |
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| mig5 | im making the account now... | 05:38 |
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| manu640 | hi @ all | 05:41 |
| TheSheep | occidere: open thunar, go to edit->preferences->advanced->configure volume management | 05:41 |
| manu640 | i have here an old pc with mainboard from 1999, i built in a 160GB HHD and the bios found it, but after installing xubuntu on a 80GB primary partition, i get an grub 18 error | 05:42 |
| manu640 | what shall i do, do i need a pci controller | 05:42 |
| manu640 | its the first partition on the disk | 05:42 |
| occidere | Thanks a lot, TheSheep. | 05:43 |
| manu640 | :( dont know what the biggest bios is which the bios recognizes | 05:43 |
| TheSheep | manu640: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18 | 05:43 |
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| TheSheep | manu640: make a small /boot partition | 05:45 |
| TheSheep | manu640: say, 40MB | 05:45 |
| mikeconcepts | all I needed was sudo smbpasswd -L -a "username" | 05:45 |
| mikeconcepts | and -e to enable | 05:45 |
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| TheSheep | mikeconcepts: thanks, we can pass it on when someone has similar problems | 05:46 |
| manu640 | TheSheep ok, and how do i know how big the boot partition has to be? because when i install some applications etc | 05:46 |
| Jester45 | anyone know how to control a fan's speed | 05:46 |
| TheSheep | manu640: applications are installed mainly to /usr, the /boot partition only contains kernels | 05:46 |
| TheSheep | manu640: count about 16-20MB per kernel, you only need two kernels at any time | 05:47 |
| manu640 | TheSheep yes i know, but letts say there will be 3 kernel updates, and the partition is to small? ... :/ | 05:47 |
| TheSheep | manu640: make it 80MB to be safe :) | 05:47 |
| mig5 | is this ok TheSheep: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/122146 | 05:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122146 in ubuntu-bots "Thunar crashes upon opening folders" [Undecided,New] | 05:47 |
| TheSheep | manu640: you can remove the old kernels | 05:47 |
| TheSheep | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/122146 | 05:47 |
| TheSheep | argh | 05:47 |
| TheSheep | sorry | 05:47 |
| === TheSheep is on windows at work --) | ||
| TheSheep | mig5: 'freezes' instead of 'crashes' would be more accurate, but it's too late now to change :) | 05:49 |
| === gerro feels sorry for sheep if its vista | ||
| TheSheep | mig5: I think it's fine, thank you | 05:49 |
| mig5 | how do i know if they've fixed it? | 05:49 |
| gerro | hey I found out the laptop is a dell latitude C640 and the problem is related to the fact the dvd/cdrw can actually be taken out and switched with floppy drive | 05:50 |
| gerro | that is very odd.. | 05:50 |
| mig5 | gerro, did you manage to get it to boot then? | 05:50 |
| TheSheep | mig5: you'll get an e-mail every time somethng changes with that bug, because you are subscribed to it as a reporter | 05:51 |
| TheSheep | mig5: you can unsubscribe in the toolbar on the left if you want | 05:51 |
| mig5 | no ill leave it subscribed, i want to know if they fix it | 05:52 |
| gerro | mig5: some people mentioned using the alternate install cd | 05:52 |
| manu640 | TheSheep i red that tehre is a maximum size of 512MB is that right, so if that work i dont have to remove kernels? | 05:52 |
| TheSheep | gerro: what was the problem? | 05:52 |
| manu640 | how to remover kernels with ubuntu? | 05:52 |
| TheSheep | manu640: just uninstall them with synaptic -- they are packages like any other applications | 05:53 |
| gerro | TheSheep: the problem is it has a floppy that is swappable with the cdrom | 05:53 |
| TheSheep | manu640: they are just never removed automatically | 05:53 |
| gerro | TheSheep: so I'm got to disable floppy or use alternate install cd | 05:53 |
| mig5 | hey sheep i just thought of something, could my thunar be freezing because my harddisk only has like 2gb free space? | 05:53 |
| TheSheep | mig5: no | 05:54 |
| mig5 | or because my home partition only has 1gb? | 05:54 |
| Jester45 | thats somthing windows would do | 05:54 |
| manu640 | ok The sheep so i will try a new installation with 80MB bootpartition | 05:54 |
| manu640 | :) | 05:54 |
| TheSheep | manu640: the maximum size of the boot partition that will work depends on the cylinder size of your hard disk drive | 05:54 |
| TheSheep | manu640: it must be smaller than 1024 cylinders | 05:55 |
| TheSheep | mig5: it works fine with even 10kB free space in home and no free space anywhere else | 05:55 |
| mig5 | o ok | 05:56 |
| TheSheep | mig5: I tested it XD | 05:56 |
| gerro | can't quite figure out how to turn off the floppy | 05:56 |
| TheSheep | mig5: the problem might be connected with GAM somehow | 05:56 |
| gerro | it has the boot section in bios and shows arrows pointing to diskette drive | 05:56 |
| mig5 | whats GAM? | 05:56 |
| manu640 | TheSheep 160GB | 05:56 |
| gerro | gam server you mean? | 05:56 |
| TheSheep | mig5: it's a daemon that keeps track of when files are modified, so that Thunar refreshes automatically | 05:57 |
| TheSheep | mig5: but for it to work, Thunar must tell it which files to watch -- maybe this is taking that much time? (just a wild guess) | 05:58 |
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| mig5 | will this gam show up in processes? | 05:58 |
| mig5 | yes it does, gam_server | 05:59 |
| TheSheep | mig5: yes, it's 'gam' or 'gamin' | 05:59 |
| gerro | I wish I could get the livecd to do same function of alternate cd | 05:59 |
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| manu640 | TheSheep the HDD is 160GB big | 05:59 |
| tuxcrafter | hello guys | 05:59 |
| gerro | just skip to installing | 05:59 |
| manu640 | is 80MB for /boot enough? | 05:59 |
| tuxcrafter | where can i found all the desktop shortcuts? | 05:59 |
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| tuxcrafter | manu640: I have a high mem machine 1 GB DDR and i optimesed xubuntu and use 84 MB at startup | 06:00 |
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| tuxcrafter | so 80 MB should be possible | 06:00 |
| tuxcrafter | however i f you load firefox or thunderbird or open office mem will soon use 200 MB | 06:00 |
| gerro | I found this post that explains what to do to prevent those buffer I/O errors https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/95857 that bottom post where would I enter those commands from? | 06:01 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 95857 in linux-source-2.6.20 "[feisty] kernel boot delayed 60 secs on floppy error" [Low,Confirmed] | 06:01 |
| gerro | oh darn that is for alternate cd too | 06:02 |
| mig5 | I found some people on the forums who are also having problems with thunar http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=368871&highlight=thunar+freeze | 06:02 |
| tuxcrafter | where can i found all the desktop shortcuts? | 06:03 |
| tuxcrafter | i am looking for the shortcut to move a app to the second desktop | 06:05 |
| tuxcrafter | or left right | 06:05 |
| tuxcrafter | previous next | 06:05 |
| TheSheep | tuxcrafter: settings->window manager->keayboard | 06:05 |
| manu640 | i set a bootflag to partition 1 with /boot | 06:05 |
| manu640 | is that ok? | 06:05 |
| TheSheep | manu640: yes | 06:06 |
| tuxcrafter | TheSheep: ah there they are | 06:06 |
| tuxcrafter | i was searching at the keyboard settings | 06:06 |
| tuxcrafter | alt+control+home | 06:06 |
| TheSheep | tuxcrafter: yes, it's a tad inconvenient | 06:07 |
| manu640 | TheSheep i made the following: 82.2MB /boot primary partition with bootflag | 80.0GB / primary partition | swap logical partition with 1.0GB | /home primary partition with 79.0GB | 06:08 |
| manu640 | in this order | 06:08 |
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| laserbeak43 | crap i forgot i havent done the xineorama thing yet... | 06:12 |
| tuxcrafter | manu640: oeps i thought you ware talking about memory :-D | 06:12 |
| tuxcrafter | bye guys | 06:15 |
| tuxcrafter | i having lunch | 06:15 |
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| laserbeak43 | in xorg.conf whats the diff between section "screen" and section "monitor"? | 06:22 |
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| Jester45 | the monitor section tells about the acual moniter and the screen is like, what the output should be i think | 06:27 |
| Jester45 | or... the monitor section is there so you can tell wich card to output to what moniter | 06:28 |
| Merchelo | is there an anyway to fix grub after install win xp on a seperate partition? | 06:28 |
| laserbeak43 | Jester45: ok thanks i'll take a better look at it and see if i can tell the difference | 06:31 |
| Pumpernickel | !grub | Merchelo | 06:32 |
| ubotu | Merchelo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto | 06:32 |
| Merchelo | excellent, thanks Pumpernickel | 06:34 |
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| nipun | hello people | 06:44 |
| nipun | and hello TheSheep | 06:44 |
| nipun | :) | 06:44 |
| nipun | remember me? | 06:44 |
| nipun | guys i need some help | 06:45 |
| laserbeak43 | hi nipun | 06:45 |
| nipun | hi laserbreak43 | 06:45 |
| nipun | I am remastering xubuntu livecd | 06:46 |
| gerro | someone mentioned if I waited for all the buffer I/O errors to end that xubuntu live cd would load like normal but it didn't displays ash prompt | 06:46 |
| laserbeak43 | how do i browse files graphicaly as root? | 06:46 |
| nipun | login as root? | 06:46 |
| laserbeak43 | i didn't think you canlog in as root | 06:46 |
| nipun | you can | 06:46 |
| laserbeak43 | but i just want to browse as root on any account | 06:46 |
| nipun | first you gotta enable local administrative login | 06:47 |
| laserbeak43 | whats the command for that? | 06:47 |
| nipun | some gkthunar or something, i dont rem | 06:47 |
| nipun | gksudo thunar | 06:47 |
| nipun | i guess | 06:47 |
| laserbeak43 | hmm ok | 06:47 |
| laserbeak43 | thanks i'm prolly gonna have to google this one :) | 06:47 |
| nipun | err no, its not | 06:47 |
| nipun | i think the easiest way would be to login as root | 06:48 |
| nipun | anyways | 06:49 |
| laserbeak43 | yeah it prolly would be | 06:49 |
| nipun | I am looking for some help myself | 06:49 |
| laserbeak43 | but i just wanna stay outta that account if i can | 06:49 |
| laserbeak43 | yeah what was ur question again? | 06:49 |
| nipun | yeah that would be best | 06:49 |
| nipun | I am remastering xubuntu live cd | 06:49 |
| nipun | wanted to know what all can i remove | 06:49 |
| nipun | i just need firefox | 06:49 |
| nipun | and flash and java | 06:49 |
| nipun | that's it | 06:49 |
| nipun | nothing else | 06:50 |
| laserbeak43 | just a minimal web browsing xubuntu hah? | 06:50 |
| nipun | not even installation files | 06:50 |
| laserbeak43 | well | 06:50 |
| nipun | yeah | 06:50 |
| nipun | a kiosk | 06:50 |
| laserbeak43 | i dunno if synaptic does this bu | 06:50 |
| laserbeak43 | t | 06:50 |
| laserbeak43 | can you delete installed files and all of their dependacies will automaticaly get uninstalled as well? | 06:50 |
| laserbeak43 | cause if so, i'd assume you could downgrade and see what you needed and what you didnt | 06:51 |
| laserbeak43 | i could be wrong of course | 06:51 |
| laserbeak43 | can you run firefox without a wm? | 06:51 |
| nipun | no | 06:51 |
| nipun | it needs one | 06:52 |
| nipun | that's why i am using xubuntu | 06:52 |
| nipun | for xfce | 06:52 |
| nipun | actually there are programs to do what i want | 06:52 |
| nipun | but they work with k/ubunut | 06:52 |
| nipun | not xubuntu | 06:52 |
| nipun | so i needed some manual help | 06:52 |
| laserbeak43 | well i'll shut up and stop spamming your topic so the other guys can see then, good luck :) | 06:53 |
| nipun | lol kay | 06:53 |
| nipun | i think i ll go in some other channel | 06:53 |
| nipun | this seems to be very quiet | 06:53 |
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| gerro | how do I remove every driver, daemon, module, and config ever related or associated with nvidia from my system? | 06:58 |
| gerro | after trying to install linux-k7 kernel my graphics card now has about 5 other older modules competing over who gets the monitor | 06:58 |
| laserbeak43 | Jester45: gonna try it now(xinerama) fingers crossed | 06:58 |
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| gerro | alright then now to do locate command and rm -Rf anything named nvidia | 07:05 |
| gerro | wish me luck peeps | 07:05 |
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| nominaladversary | Hi, i was looking for a way to install windows2k over my xubuntu install...when i insert the 2k boot cd, ubuntu just boots. | 07:08 |
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| BFTD | nominaladversary you have to set the BIOS to boot windows 2k disk | 07:10 |
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| nominaladversary | I'm in the bios place...i went under BOOT, but have no idea what to do from there. | 07:18 |
| Pumpernickel | There should be a subsection called 'boot order' or something similar. | 07:18 |
| Pumpernickel | Make sure it's set to boot from the cd before the hard drive. | 07:18 |
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| nominaladversary | Check, cept I have two cd drives. | 07:20 |
| Pumpernickel | Use the master, then. | 07:21 |
| nominaladversary | There is only 1 cd option on the BIOS screen...I tried both drives, won't boot. | 07:22 |
| Pumpernickel | Your BIOS may be confused about having 2 to choose from. | 07:25 |
| Jester45 | what aBOut a choose | 07:26 |
| Jester45 | r | 07:26 |
| Pumpernickel | It might also be confused by jumper settings on the drives, but it's probably simpler to just pull a drive then to deal with the jumpers. | 07:26 |
| Jester45 | my bios has somthing on F8 i think that lets you choose what to boot | 07:26 |
| nominaladversary | yeah, is F1 on hp desktops | 07:26 |
| nominaladversary | thanks for the help, i might open it up and try again | 07:26 |
| nominaladversary | tata | 07:26 |
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| gerro | wtf I go through and delete everything shown by locate command after running updatedb and then install nvidia driver STILL it complains there is another driver hidden somewhere | 07:30 |
| gerro | I think its about reinstall time... | 07:31 |
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| gerro | yay I found new command line to add to my great giant .sh list of remove nvidia drivers script :) | 07:33 |
| MrBlues_ | esa | 07:33 |
| gerro | update-rc.d nvidia-kernel remove.. interesting | 07:34 |
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| laserbeak43 | Jester45: didn't work so far... | 07:41 |
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| gerro | ldconfig: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/liban1.so.1 is not a symbolic link so I deleted it | 07:49 |
| gerro | were several other files like that I deleted because they told my nvidia driver to fuck off when I tried installing it | 07:50 |
| gerro | now I think my system is totally trashed :( | 07:50 |
| W8TAH | anyone here running kvirc on feisty? | 07:51 |
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| DaBeowulf | How do I get a clean xorg.conf again? I think mine's messed up with trying to switch the NVidia drivers.. | 08:28 |
| DaBeowulf | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xor doesn't suffice there neither does rm xorg.con* in the /etc/X11/ path, does it? | 08:29 |
| predaeus | DaBeowulf, do you have a backup of an old xorg.conf? | 08:31 |
| DaBeowulf | No I tried rm xorg.con* before >_< | 08:32 |
| predaeus | DaBeowulf, bad idea. try nvidia-xconfig | 08:32 |
| predaeus | but I fear that will not work without an existing xorg.conf | 08:32 |
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| DaBeowulf | When I try to use a NVidia driver now it always fails saying the NVidia kernel module doesn't match.. | 08:32 |
| maxamillion | DaBeowulf: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pHigh xserver-xorg" i believe is what you are looking for | 08:33 |
| DaBeowulf | "Ignore unvalid priority 'High' ah nm needs to be lowercase | 08:37 |
| DaBeowulf | But I see me doing a fresh install from the DesktopCD yet again... | 08:38 |
| DaBeowulf | I don't get it I'm quite sure I used the same NVidia driver before and UT2k4 ran fine but when I got rid of windows and set it all up again it didn't render the game correctly :/ | 08:39 |
| DaBeowulf | So I tried downgrading from glx-new to just glx and BAM NVidia Kernel mismatch crap :( | 08:40 |
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| DaBeowulf | Even tried the driver from NVidia.com which supposedly compiles its own kernel module and it seemed to install without any errors but the same mismatch stuff again. | 08:42 |
| DaBeowulf | GFudge FX5200 runs with both glx and glx-new or only glx? | 08:43 |
| DaBeowulf | I can't find that site again where it listed the supported adapters | 08:44 |
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| Tailsfan | Hello, I finally got to dual-boot for once | 09:21 |
| Tailsfan | but now I have a problem, wheneve ri shut down Xubuntu, It just Freezes and doesn't turn off teh power manually | 09:21 |
| Tailsfan | automatically* | 09:21 |
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| hyper__ch | Tailsfan: what does it say? Initilizing rc.d scripts? | 09:22 |
| slow-motion | hallo | 09:23 |
| Tailsfan | No nothing, it just shows the Xubuntu Logo and teh bar empty and it does nothing | 09:23 |
| Tailsfan | I have 7.04 | 09:24 |
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| BFTD | hi, on OpenOffice impress, when I try to use the slide option the program crashes | 09:28 |
| BFTD | how do I figure out whats going wrong | 09:29 |
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| kalikiana | BFTD, Tried to open OOo from a Terminal? | 09:36 |
| kalikiana | A good proggie should give some output. | 09:36 |
| BFTD | kalikiana whast the command btw :P | 09:36 |
| kalikiana | BFTD, Well, jump to /usr/share/applications and look it up, I don't know everything by heart :P | 09:37 |
| BFTD | kalikiana you should | 09:37 |
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| kalikiana | Meh, shut up! | 09:38 |
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| BFTD | is there like some way I can run it in debug mode or something? | 09:39 |
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| nikin | hy | 09:41 |
| kalikiana | BFTD, I don't think you have a debug version, so not unless you recompile it. | 09:41 |
| kalikiana | hi nikin | 09:41 |
| nikin | what program do you use to work on a samba network? | 09:41 |
| hyper__ch | konqueror | 09:41 |
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| kalikiana | nikin, For what? File management? Coding? | 09:42 |
| nikin | kalikiana: file management | 09:42 |
| hyper_ch | kalikiana: konqueror for both ^^ | 09:42 |
| kalikiana | Thunar exclusively, with fusesmb. | 09:42 |
| nikin | i try to find a program capable for it, wich is not KDE based and not as huge as konqueror or nautilus | 09:43 |
| kalikiana | nikin, Try Thunar with fusesmb, it's easy. | 09:43 |
| hyper_ch | can gnome-commander do it? | 09:43 |
| kalikiana | Every program can access samba shares. o_O | 09:43 |
| nikin | hyper_ch: no, couse 1.2.3 has no smbauth and 1.2.4 has a lot of deps from the latest CVS gnome | 09:44 |
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| nikin | my fav was krusader so far, but i try to avoid using QT based programs | 09:45 |
| hyper_ch | nikin: why? | 09:45 |
| hyper_ch | nikin: why krusader over konqui and why avoiding qt proggies? | 09:45 |
| nikin | i tried smbc but it locks up .... mc... it needs to specify the workgroup and is not capable listing the computers | 09:46 |
| nikin | hyper_ch: avoiding QT so that the system both in handeling and in design integrity and krusader couse i like the 2 panel aproach | 09:47 |
| hyper_ch | nikin: Konqui has as many panes as you want | 09:47 |
| hyper_ch | nikin: I normally use a 3-4 pane approach ;) | 09:47 |
| nikin | hyper_ch: konq is not a program for systems with 128 mb ram, bytheway Krusader isnt that much better | 09:48 |
| hyper_ch | get some more ram ;) | 09:48 |
| nikin | hyper_ch: notebook EDO ram is not something that you can just... get... and the BIOS can not handle more | 09:49 |
| hyper_ch | nikin: get a new one ;) sorry :) | 09:49 |
| nikin | hyper_ch: i have some new one... :D but i want is old little thing to work.... :D | 09:50 |
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| nikin | hyper_ch: i can do it with mc and smbtree if there isnt any way to handle that... or can write a program that automates things using smbmount but i could not belive that noone had a need for a lightwheyght program for network file management | 09:53 |
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| kallepersson | Hi there. How hard is it to "upgrade" from Xubuntu (6.06) to Ubuntu Feisty? | 09:58 |
| Jester45 | very easy if it works right | 10:03 |
| aroo | Anyone suggest an xfce temperature monitor? | 10:09 |
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| aroo | (for cpu, to be specific) | 10:10 |
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| BFTD | screw it | 10:12 |
| BFTD | I'll just convert it to pdf and do it that way | 10:12 |
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| predaeus | aroo, panel sensors plugin | 10:17 |
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| jeekl | Minimum specs to run/install xubuntu to a box without network access? | 11:19 |
| maxamillion | jeekl: i've tested it on a pentium 100mhz w/ 64mb of ram ... its slow, but given the age of the hardware its expected | 11:21 |
| zials | what OS are you currently running? | 11:21 |
| jeekl | maxamillion: Gotcha. | 11:21 |
| jeekl | I am going to "repair" my grandpas computer tomorrow. It currently runs Window 95 and I wondered if I even should bother bringing any alternative software | 11:22 |
| aroo | what's his system specs | 11:26 |
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| lampyris | hello | 11:28 |
| lampyris | can i use ubuntu's icon in xubuntu? | 11:29 |
| crimsun | for personal use, of course. | 11:29 |
| aroo | yea, why not? | 11:29 |
| lampyris | mmm sorry, pheraps i don't explain very well :) | 11:30 |
| lampyris | i like ubuntu's icon. In my opinion there are better than xubuntu's icon | 11:31 |
| lampyris | i like use ubuntu's icon on xubuntu | 11:31 |
| aroo | lampyris: do you mean the file icons and the icon theme? | 11:31 |
| kallepersson | I think he probably wants it in the xfce-menu | 11:31 |
| kallepersson | Am I right? | 11:31 |
| lampyris | yes | 11:31 |
| kalikiana | lampyris, You mean replacing the xubuntu logo with the ubuntu logo? Of course you can do that. :) | 11:31 |
| lampyris | not replace logo, but icon :) wait a moment... | 11:32 |
| kalikiana | Just right-click the menu and select a different icon :P | 11:32 |
| lampyris | for example this http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu_HumanAzul?content=37099 | 11:34 |
| kalikiana | lampyris, That is a GTK theme, not an icon. You can use that of course. | 11:35 |
| lampyris | Type: Icon Theme | 11:36 |
| lampyris | device's icon | 11:36 |
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| gerro | is there a grub option to not load floppy support? | 11:45 |
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