TheSheepattention span of a mayfly12:32
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=== Topic (#xubuntu): set by Pumpernickel at Sun May 20 02:21:34 2007
(Jester45/#xubuntu) o... i dont think the choose has it06:13
(Jester45/#xubuntu) i wasnt sure what you where talking about06:13
(Ghostvirus/#xubuntu) yeah, the open/save dialog06:13
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Jester45toasted a brand new 250gb sata 300 drive a week ago06:14
jtg23alright, i just realized there is no version 6.1(?) so i do need to get one of these wifi cards working under my existing hardware situation06:14
Jester45i was just about to have i dedicated movie storage drive06:15
jtg23snap, i should make a backup...06:15
Jester45and it whent pop/band/zap06:15
Ghostvirusi like external HDs06:15
Ghostvirussaves trouble06:15
Jester45to slow...06:15
jtg23not once you get it going!06:16
jtg23i use mine on my mac and it's slow to buffer but not too, too bad06:16
jtg23you can stream video06:16
jtg238mb cache06:16
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jtg23gotta have it06:16
jtg23i want one of those hybrid flash ram drives06:16
Jester45the cache has little to do with what the line can handle06:16
jtg23oh and to get my wifi card working on xubuntu 7.04 with either the linksys with the broadcom or the airlink with the 1211 chipset06:17
Chikubuhope the warranty covered it06:17
Jester45a drive connected via usb will not beat internal or ethernet connected06:17
jtg23no but the cache helps when you pause the vid to take phone calls and restart it06:17
jtg23of course not06:17
jtg23well not gigabit06:17
Chikubumy usb wireless adapater worked with default xubuntu install, didnt need to add anything specail, other than a nice gui to help manage it06:19
Jester45jtg23, and firewire is a bit faster in the real world... but usb 2 fullspeed *should* be a bit faster but its normaly not06:22
Jester45and apples fireware 800 is much faster06:22
Jester45be back in a bit06:24
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Chikubui want to mount a cd image created with blind write in windows, what util would i use, or do i need to convert to iso? what would i use to convert to iso?06:28
BFTDhi I'm looking for a power point program06:28
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Chikubuthe open office suite has presentation software06:29
GhostvirusChikubu, what format does blindwrite use?06:30
BFTDChikubu yeah but ti crashes06:32
Chikubuit writes blind write format06:32
Chikubumakes a blind write image file .bwi06:32
Chikubuthink its just raw inside the file06:33
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Chikubualso makes a .bws and .bwt file along with the main but not sure those are completly nessacary06:34
GhostvirusChikubu, yeah, i think you'll have to convert to ISO06:34
Chikubuill start poking around for some utility to do it, how do you mount an .iso?  is it built into linux or do i need something06:35
GhostvirusChikubu, you can do it from the command line, like "sudo mount /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mountpoint"06:36
Chikubuok, built in...cool06:36
Ghostvirusor you could install an app like CDemu: http://cdemu.sourceforge.net06:36
Ghostvirusnever used it though, so i'm not sure if there are better apps out there06:36
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Chikubuin windows it would be nessacary to run a program to fool windows into thinking it was a cd or the progs wouldnt run, had to mount that way06:38
Chikubunot sure what wines gonna make out of it06:38
Chikubugonna find out06:38
Ghostvirusyeah, i use daemon tools on xp06:38
Jester45whats going on06:38
Ghostvirusfun with cd images and virtual drives06:39
Jester45wine wouldnt know the diffrence if you mounted a iso or had a cd in the drive... just like the rest of the system06:39
Jester45Ghostvirus, ya... but linux can do as many as you want not only 406:40
Chikubuwell thats good06:40
Jester45they problem with wine might be if you dont tell wine where you "cd" drives are06:41
Jester45unless you mount in /dev/cdrom0 and wine is all ready looking there06:41
Ghostviruswell i've never bothered with mounting ISOs under linux, just a few times in windows for some games06:42
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BFTDyou can do that?06:43
BFTDwhat program do you use to watch them06:44
Jester45mplayer or vlc06:45
Jester45noramly mplayer06:45
Ghostvirusoh yeah, i noticed that when i insert an audio cd into my computer, it shows up on my desktop, but xubuntu says it's not mounted06:47
Ghostvirusif i try to mount it, i get some error. is that normal for audio cds?06:47
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MetaCubewhats the command to upgrade again? apt-get upgrade? that seems to miss some items06:48
Ghostvirusapt-get dist-upgrade06:48
Jester45sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade06:49
Jester45or dist-upgrade06:49
MetaCubeah the dist was the one i was trying to remeber thanx06:49
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Ghostvirusso does anyone know what's up with the audio cd thing?06:53
Ghostvirusif i try to play a cd with audacious, it says there aren't any cds mounted, yet grip finds the audio tracks with no problem06:55
cjae_Ghostvirus, don't think audio discs must be mounted06:59
cjae_Ghostvirus, http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/music.html07:01
Ghostviruscjae_, any idea what would cause audacious to think there's no audio cd to play?07:02
Ghostvirusit's not really a big problem, since i rarely play audio cds anyway. maybe it's just an audacious-specific problem, since grip finds the disc just fine07:03
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Ghostvirushm, after taking a look at the audacious forum, i believe i may have found a solution to my problem07:10
Ghostviruswell since everyone else has already taken off, i guess i'll call it a night too07:13
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gerrofew buddies in here earlier were discussing virtualbox so I went to install the ubuntu package at the virtualbox site however it shows a license agreement and doesn't do anything I can't accept or cancel and my entire add/remove apt system is locked up on that package08:37
gerroany ideas?08:37
gerroohhh never mind I figured it out... have to press arrow key then enter..08:38
gerrothat makes no sense what so ever but it works08:38
TheSheeplike most software08:40
gerroI was pressing arrow key to scroll down but it wanted me to press the right arrow key and not the left one08:41
gerrowhich is really odd08:41
gerrodamn its late I'm getting some sleep08:42
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DaBeowulfPlease help me, how do I get into the terminal only (No X running) with telinit 3 runlevel without gdm starting up on me?12:17
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DaBeowulfOr what does make gdm restart when I terminate it?12:21
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benpiccoHi, how do I acces a samba share in a Windows server?01:16
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:16
benpiccoah, ok, never mind01:17
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benpiccook, something is wrong here01:44
benpiccoI can log in on the server using smbclient01:45
benpiccobut when it comes to mounting the share, I have no acces01:45
benpicco(The account has no password - I did't configure this ;) )01:45
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benpiccoso do I have to leave it blant in fstab?01:46
benpiccoso username=accountname, password=>blank<01:47
benpiccooh, got 2 go now..01:47
benpiccoany (quick) solution?01:48
benpicco(I just have to press enter when smbclient prompts me for the pw01:49
benpicco - there are no errors while mounting, too, but I always get "Permission Denied"01:49
benpiccowhere I can acces everything with smbclient01:50
benpiccohowever, I have to go..01:51
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homebrewciderwhat's the best way to get the scanning functions going in my Canon MP510 printer/scanner please?03:22
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namelessjonIs there some way I can make Terminal aware of the paths I set in .bash_profile, without running 'source .bash_profile'?04:12
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|jason|i am trying to build pidgin on xubuntu fiesty -- i seem to recall there was a package that had to be installed first but i cant find it -- can someone point me in the right direction?04:20
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gerrogot this old dell latitude and was going to install xubuntu on it but when booting the cd it says Buffer I/O error on device fd0 and the same message for sr0 repeatedly and hasn't done anything yet..05:02
gerroperhaps a bios setting problem, cd defect, maybe broken hardware?05:03
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mig5gerro, try the alternate install cd if there is one for xubuntu?05:04
mig5or does it do that on all boot cds?05:04
gerrothis is the first time I've tried a boot cd on it05:04
gerroI've heard dell latitude mentioned a lot in linux support forums so I expected some problems from it05:04
mig5try booting the cd in another computer and see if it works in that05:05
gerroI have05:05
gerroI used it for 4 other computers installation including one I'm on now05:05
gerrojust yesterday I was booting it up on another machine05:06
mig5have you got any other bootable cds laying around?05:06
gerronot really most them really old copies of ubuntu05:06
mig5try one of them, just to see if it can boot anything?05:06
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Stormx2How much memory does a default xubuntu install use with no apps open?05:07
gerroI think 19205:07
mig5People have it working on 128mb05:07
gerrobut for installing takes 19205:08
mig5not with alternate cd05:08
gerrohe said with no apps open so i assumed it was live cd05:08
mig5o yeah ur right, well i guess 128 is bare minimum05:09
gerroit has to do some uncompressing and other stuff to install so needs more ram for doing that05:10
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gerromy one computer has 60.5 mb ram so05:11
mig5with xubuntu?05:11
gerroI sort of gave up on bothering with alternate cd too05:11
gerronah I use damn small on that one05:11
mig5thats quite a nice linux, i tried it once05:12
gerroI was hoping to copy over a few settings from it to xubuntu and vica versa05:13
gerrolike I got thunar setup on it too05:13
mig5i dont like thunar, it hangs on me05:13
mig5im using xfe at the moment05:13
gerroyeah you have to make an index for /usr/bin seeing as it opens there all the time by default05:14
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mig5xfe is like a really light weight file manager thats based on rox05:14
mig5 yeah you have to make an index for /usr/bin seeing as it opens there all the time by default --- how do i do that?05:15
gerrodon't know its a feature of ext305:15
gerrosome sort of command to use05:16
gerroyou can do it for all of your folders if you like but it takes little bit extra hard drive space05:16
mig5ext3 is a type of filesystem isnt it?05:16
gerroyeah but it has lots of features05:16
mig5i have jornalised something or other, i dont think its ext305:17
gerroI also tuned my ext3 for writeback support supposedly things load faster05:17
gerroyeah there are a lot of journalised file systems05:17
gerrolike reiserfs is another popular one commonly used on linux05:18
mig5hmm i dont know what the exact one that i have05:18
gerrouse synaptic to check what fcsk your using05:18
gerroyou need different tools for different file systems05:18
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gerromikey! what up man05:19
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mig5i dont have any fcsk packages installed =(05:20
mikeconceptswhat is the extra step I've forgotten to connect to a share created in xubuntu from windows. Windows asks for username and password, but just keeps asking05:20
mikeconceptspermissions thing?05:21
TheSheepmikeconcepts: it's 'fsck'05:21
TheSheepmig5: it's 'fsck'05:21
mig5thanks, in that case i have ext205:22
gerrooops my bad05:22
mikeconceptsthe share is on xubuntu and I'm trying to connect to it from windows05:22
TheSheepmig5: just 'fsck' alone should autodetect the filesystem and use apropriate 'fsck.*' automatically05:22
mig5can i index usr/bin/ if i have ext2?05:23
TheSheepmikeconcepts: you configured it using 'system->shared folders'?05:23
TheSheepmig5: index?05:23
mig5 yeah you have to make an index for /usr/bin seeing as it opens there all the time by default --- said gerro05:24
mig5its to make thunar work05:24
gerrothat is not the proper term but it functions similar05:24
gerronot thunar its to make things load the file system faster for that directory seeing as it has lots of files05:24
TheSheepfirst time I hear about it05:25
mig5i dont get it though, because xfe loads usr/bin and usr/lib quickly05:25
TheSheepmig5: what is the problem?05:26
mig5thunar hangs on me when i open folders that have lots of stuff in05:26
TheSheepmig5: what version?05:27
TheSheepmig5: which xubuntu are yo using?05:27
gerromine does the same usually05:27
mig5xubuntu 7.0405:27
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mig5i thought it was just because thunar is still in developerment and so its buggy05:28
TheSheepmig5: how does it hang? is mouse working? numlock? can you restart with alt+ctrl+backspace or do you have to reset your computer manually?05:29
TheSheepmig5: no, Thunar in feisty is stable05:29
TheSheepmig5: should have no bugs05:29
gerroits not hanging its just opening an enormous directory by default every time he browses to find an image for an icon or other small tasks05:29
mig5just the program hangs, the thunar window goes white and i have to kill the process to get rid of it05:30
mig5i can still use my computer when it does it05:30
gerroyeah what your system specs mig5?05:30
mig5512mb mem, 2500 (1.8ghz) pro05:30
TheSheepthat's still bad -- it shouldn't happen05:30
gerrowell your case is more serious than mine05:31
gerrono clue why it crashes05:31
TheSheepmig5: works resonably well for me on much weaker box05:31
TheSheepoh well05:31
TheSheep!bugs | mig505:31
ubotumig5: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots05:31
gerroyou use a different file system though too05:31
mig5i dont have any file indexing software like beagle if that would make a difference?05:31
TheSheepmig5: try to include all the details you can think might be relevant05:31
mikeconceptsguess I'll have to manually go through the whole samba setup process manually, figured by now that would have been automated05:31
TheSheepmikeconcepts: no05:32
TheSheepmikeconcepts: sorry, again not to you :)05:32
TheSheepmig5: no05:32
TheSheepmikeconcepts: apparently something went wrong05:32
TheSheepmikeconcepts: but you don't have to go through the *whole* process -- most of the configuration is done05:33
mig5ill do the bug report thing but I'm ok really because i just use xfe file manager instead05:33
mikeconceptsonce I get into it, perhaps the problem will surface05:33
TheSheepmig5: if you report it, it will get fixed :)05:34
TheSheepmig5: I often had bugs fixed the smae day I reported them in xfce05:34
mig5umm do i have to sign up for this launch pad thing or is it the same as my forum account?05:35
TheSheepmig5: not sure, you put your e-mail as a login05:35
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mig5no its not, i have to make an account05:36
TheSheepmig5: but it works for wiki too :)05:36
occidereHello everybody. Does anybody know, how to stop the autoplay feature for audio cds of gxine? I'm running Feisty with Xfce.05:36
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mig5im making the account now...05:38
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manu640hi @ all05:41
TheSheepoccidere: open thunar, go to edit->preferences->advanced->configure volume management05:41
manu640i have here an old pc with mainboard from 1999, i built in a 160GB HHD and the bios found it, but after installing xubuntu on a 80GB primary partition, i get an grub 18 error05:42
manu640what shall i do, do i need a pci controller05:42
manu640its the first partition on the disk05:42
occidereThanks a lot, TheSheep.05:43
manu640:( dont know what the biggest bios is which the bios recognizes05:43
TheSheepmanu640: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_1805:43
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TheSheepmanu640: make a small /boot partition05:45
TheSheepmanu640: say, 40MB05:45
mikeconceptsall I needed was sudo smbpasswd -L -a "username"05:45
mikeconceptsand -e to enable05:45
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TheSheepmikeconcepts: thanks, we can pass it on when someone has similar problems05:46
manu640TheSheep ok, and how do i know how big the boot partition has to be? because when i install some applications etc05:46
Jester45anyone know how to control a fan's speed05:46
TheSheepmanu640: applications are installed mainly to /usr, the /boot partition only contains kernels05:46
TheSheepmanu640: count about 16-20MB per kernel, you only need two kernels at any time05:47
manu640TheSheep yes i know, but letts say there will be 3 kernel updates, and the partition is to small? ... :/05:47
TheSheepmanu640: make it 80MB to be safe :)05:47
mig5is this ok TheSheep: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/12214605:47
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122146 in ubuntu-bots "Thunar crashes upon opening folders" [Undecided,New] 05:47
TheSheepmanu640: you can remove the old kernels05:47
TheSheep              https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/12214605:47
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TheSheepmig5: 'freezes' instead of 'crashes' would be more accurate, but it's too late now to change :)05:49
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TheSheepmig5: I think it's fine, thank you05:49
mig5how do i know if they've fixed it?05:49
gerrohey I found out the laptop is a dell latitude C640 and the problem is related to the fact the dvd/cdrw can actually be taken out and switched with floppy drive05:50
gerrothat is very odd..05:50
mig5gerro, did you manage to get it to boot then?05:50
TheSheepmig5: you'll get an e-mail every time somethng changes with that bug, because you are subscribed to it as a reporter05:51
TheSheepmig5: you can unsubscribe in the toolbar on the left if you want05:51
mig5no ill leave it subscribed, i want to know if they fix it05:52
gerromig5: some people mentioned using the alternate install cd05:52
manu640TheSheep i red that tehre is a maximum size of 512MB is that right, so if that work i dont have to remove kernels?05:52
TheSheepgerro: what was the problem?05:52
manu640how to remover kernels with ubuntu?05:52
TheSheepmanu640: just uninstall them with synaptic -- they are packages like any other applications05:53
gerroTheSheep: the problem is it has a floppy that is swappable with the cdrom05:53
TheSheepmanu640: they are just never removed automatically05:53
gerroTheSheep: so I'm got to disable floppy or use alternate install cd05:53
mig5hey sheep i just thought of something, could my thunar be freezing because my harddisk only has like 2gb free space?05:53
TheSheepmig5: no05:54
mig5or because my home partition only has 1gb?05:54
Jester45thats somthing windows would do05:54
manu640ok The sheep so i will try a new installation with 80MB bootpartition05:54
TheSheepmanu640: the maximum size of the boot partition that will work depends on the cylinder size of your hard disk drive05:54
TheSheepmanu640: it must be smaller than 1024 cylinders05:55
TheSheepmig5: it works fine with even 10kB free space in home and no free space anywhere else05:55
mig5o ok05:56
TheSheepmig5: I tested it XD05:56
gerrocan't quite figure out how to turn off the floppy05:56
TheSheepmig5: the problem might be connected with GAM somehow05:56
gerroit has the boot section in bios and shows arrows pointing to diskette drive05:56
mig5whats GAM?05:56
manu640TheSheep 160GB05:56
gerrogam server you mean?05:56
TheSheepmig5: it's a daemon that keeps track of when files are modified, so that Thunar refreshes automatically05:57
TheSheepmig5: but for it to work, Thunar must tell it which files to watch -- maybe this is taking that much time? (just a wild guess)05:58
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mig5will this gam show up in processes?05:58
mig5yes it does, gam_server05:59
TheSheepmig5: yes, it's 'gam' or 'gamin'05:59
gerroI wish I could get the livecd to do same function of alternate cd05:59
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manu640TheSheep the HDD is 160GB big05:59
tuxcrafterhello guys05:59
gerrojust skip to installing05:59
manu640is 80MB for /boot enough?05:59
tuxcrafterwhere can i found all the desktop shortcuts?05:59
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tuxcraftermanu640: I have a high mem machine 1 GB DDR and i optimesed xubuntu and use 84 MB at startup06:00
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tuxcrafterso 80 MB should be possible06:00
tuxcrafterhowever i f you load firefox or thunderbird or open office mem will soon use 200 MB06:00
gerroI found this post that explains what to do to prevent those buffer I/O errors https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/95857 that bottom post where would I enter those commands from?06:01
ubotuLaunchpad bug 95857 in linux-source-2.6.20 "[feisty]  kernel boot delayed 60 secs on floppy error" [Low,Confirmed] 06:01
gerrooh darn that is for alternate cd too06:02
mig5I found some people on the forums who are also having problems with thunar http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=368871&highlight=thunar+freeze06:02
tuxcrafterwhere can i found all the desktop shortcuts?06:03
tuxcrafteri am looking for the shortcut to move a app to the second desktop06:05
tuxcrafteror left right06:05
tuxcrafterprevious next06:05
TheSheeptuxcrafter: settings->window manager->keayboard06:05
manu640i set a bootflag to partition 1 with /boot06:05
manu640is that ok?06:05
TheSheepmanu640: yes06:06
tuxcrafterTheSheep: ah there they are06:06
tuxcrafteri was searching at the keyboard settings06:06
TheSheeptuxcrafter: yes, it's a tad inconvenient06:07
manu640TheSheep i made the following: 82.2MB /boot primary partition with bootflag | 80.0GB / primary partition | swap logical partition with 1.0GB | /home primary partition with 79.0GB06:08
manu640in this order06:08
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laserbeak43crap i forgot i havent done the xineorama thing yet...06:12
tuxcraftermanu640: oeps i thought you ware talking about memory :-D06:12
tuxcrafterbye guys06:15
tuxcrafteri having lunch06:15
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laserbeak43in xorg.conf whats the diff between section "screen" and section "monitor"?06:22
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Jester45the monitor section tells about the acual moniter and the screen is like, what the output should be i think06:27
Jester45or... the monitor section is there so you can tell wich card to output to what moniter06:28
Merchelois there an anyway to fix grub after install win xp on a seperate partition?06:28
laserbeak43Jester45: ok thanks i'll take a better look at it and see if i can tell the difference06:31
Pumpernickel!grub | Merchelo06:32
ubotuMerchelo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:32
Mercheloexcellent, thanks Pumpernickel06:34
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nipunhello people06:44
nipunand hello TheSheep06:44
nipunremember me?06:44
nipunguys i need some help06:45
laserbeak43hi nipun06:45
nipunhi laserbreak4306:45
nipunI am remastering xubuntu livecd06:46
gerrosomeone mentioned if I waited for all the buffer I/O errors to end that xubuntu live cd would load like normal but it didn't displays ash prompt06:46
laserbeak43how do i browse files graphicaly as root?06:46
nipunlogin as root?06:46
laserbeak43i didn't think you canlog in as root06:46
nipunyou can06:46
laserbeak43but i just want to browse as root on any account06:46
nipunfirst you gotta enable local administrative login06:47
laserbeak43whats the command for that?06:47
nipunsome gkthunar or something, i dont rem06:47
nipungksudo thunar06:47
nipuni guess06:47
laserbeak43hmm ok06:47
laserbeak43thanks i'm prolly gonna have to google this one :)06:47
nipunerr no, its not06:47
nipuni think the easiest way would be to login as root06:48
laserbeak43yeah it prolly would be06:49
nipunI am looking for some help myself06:49
laserbeak43but i just wanna stay outta that account if i can06:49
laserbeak43yeah what was ur question again?06:49
nipunyeah that would be best06:49
nipunI am remastering xubuntu live cd06:49
nipunwanted to know what all can i remove06:49
nipuni just need firefox06:49
nipunand flash and java06:49
nipunthat's it06:49
nipunnothing else06:50
laserbeak43just a minimal web browsing xubuntu hah?06:50
nipunnot even installation files06:50
nipuna kiosk06:50
laserbeak43i dunno if synaptic does this bu06:50
laserbeak43can you delete installed files and all of their dependacies will automaticaly get uninstalled as well?06:50
laserbeak43cause if so, i'd assume you could downgrade and see what you needed and what you didnt06:51
laserbeak43i could be wrong of course06:51
laserbeak43can you run firefox without a wm?06:51
nipunit needs one06:52
nipunthat's why i am using xubuntu06:52
nipunfor xfce06:52
nipunactually there are programs to do what i want06:52
nipunbut they work with k/ubunut06:52
nipunnot xubuntu06:52
nipunso i needed some manual help06:52
laserbeak43well i'll shut up and stop spamming your topic so the other guys can see then, good luck :)06:53
nipunlol kay06:53
nipuni think i ll go in some other channel06:53
nipunthis seems to be very quiet06:53
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gerrohow do I remove every driver, daemon, module, and config ever related or associated with nvidia from my system?06:58
gerroafter trying to install linux-k7 kernel my graphics card now has about 5 other older modules competing over who gets the monitor06:58
laserbeak43Jester45: gonna try it now(xinerama) fingers crossed06:58
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gerroalright then now to do locate command and rm -Rf anything named nvidia07:05
gerrowish me luck peeps07:05
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nominaladversaryHi, i was looking for a way to install windows2k over my xubuntu install...when i insert the 2k boot cd, ubuntu just boots.07:08
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BFTDnominaladversary you have to set the BIOS to boot windows 2k disk07:10
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nominaladversaryI'm in the bios place...i went under BOOT, but have no idea what to do from there.07:18
PumpernickelThere should be a subsection called 'boot order' or something similar.07:18
PumpernickelMake sure it's set to boot from the cd before the hard drive.07:18
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nominaladversaryCheck, cept I have two cd drives.07:20
PumpernickelUse the master, then.07:21
nominaladversaryThere is only 1 cd option on the BIOS screen...I tried both drives, won't boot.07:22
PumpernickelYour BIOS may be confused about having 2 to choose from.07:25
Jester45what aBOut a choose07:26
PumpernickelIt might also be confused by jumper settings on the drives, but it's probably simpler to just pull a drive then to deal with the jumpers.07:26
Jester45my bios has somthing on F8 i think that lets you choose what to boot07:26
nominaladversaryyeah, is F1 on hp desktops07:26
nominaladversarythanks for the help, i might open it up and try again07:26
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gerrowtf I go through and delete everything shown by locate command after running updatedb and then install nvidia driver STILL it complains there is another driver hidden somewhere07:30
gerroI think its about reinstall time...07:31
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gerroyay I found new command line to add to my great giant .sh list of remove nvidia drivers script :)07:33
gerroupdate-rc.d nvidia-kernel remove.. interesting07:34
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laserbeak43Jester45: didn't work so far...07:41
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gerroldconfig: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/liban1.so.1 is not a symbolic link so I deleted it07:49
gerrowere several other files like that I deleted because they told my nvidia driver to fuck off when I tried installing it07:50
gerronow I think my system is totally trashed :(07:50
W8TAHanyone here running kvirc on feisty?07:51
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DaBeowulfHow do I get a clean xorg.conf again? I think mine's messed up with trying to switch the NVidia drivers..08:28
DaBeowulfdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xor doesn't suffice there neither does rm xorg.con* in the /etc/X11/ path, does it?08:29
predaeusDaBeowulf, do you have a backup of an old xorg.conf?08:31
DaBeowulfNo I tried rm xorg.con* before >_<08:32
predaeusDaBeowulf, bad idea. try nvidia-xconfig08:32
predaeusbut I fear that will not work without an existing xorg.conf08:32
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DaBeowulfWhen I try to use a NVidia driver now it always fails saying the NVidia kernel module doesn't match..08:32
maxamillionDaBeowulf: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pHigh xserver-xorg" i believe is what you are looking for08:33
DaBeowulf"Ignore unvalid priority 'High'  ah nm needs to be lowercase08:37
DaBeowulfBut I see me doing a fresh install from the DesktopCD yet again...08:38
DaBeowulfI don't get it I'm quite sure I used the same NVidia driver before and UT2k4 ran fine but when I got rid of windows and set it all up again it didn't render the game correctly :/08:39
DaBeowulfSo I tried downgrading from glx-new to just glx and BAM NVidia Kernel mismatch crap :(08:40
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DaBeowulfEven tried the driver from NVidia.com which supposedly compiles its own kernel module and it seemed to install without any errors but the same mismatch stuff again.08:42
DaBeowulfGFudge FX5200 runs with both glx and glx-new or only glx?08:43
DaBeowulfI can't find that site again where it listed the supported adapters08:44
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TailsfanHello, I finally got to dual-boot for once09:21
Tailsfanbut now I have a problem, wheneve ri shut down Xubuntu, It just Freezes and doesn't turn off teh power manually09:21
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hyper__chTailsfan: what does it say? Initilizing rc.d scripts?09:22
TailsfanNo nothing, it just shows the Xubuntu Logo and teh bar empty and it does nothing09:23
TailsfanI have 7.0409:24
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BFTDhi, on OpenOffice impress, when I try to use the slide option the program crashes09:28
BFTDhow do I figure out whats going wrong09:29
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kalikianaBFTD, Tried to open OOo from a Terminal?09:36
kalikianaA good proggie should give some output.09:36
BFTDkalikiana whast the command btw :P09:36
kalikianaBFTD, Well, jump to /usr/share/applications and look it up, I don't know everything by heart :P09:37
BFTDkalikiana you should09:37
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kalikianaMeh, shut up!09:38
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BFTDis there like some way I can run it in debug mode or something?09:39
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kalikianaBFTD, I don't think you have a debug version, so not unless you recompile it.09:41
kalikianahi nikin09:41
nikinwhat program do you use to work on a samba network?09:41
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kalikiananikin, For what? File management? Coding?09:42
nikinkalikiana: file management09:42
hyper_chkalikiana: konqueror for both ^^09:42
kalikianaThunar exclusively, with fusesmb.09:42
nikini try to find a program capable for it, wich is not KDE based and not as huge as konqueror or nautilus09:43
kalikiananikin, Try Thunar with fusesmb, it's easy.09:43
hyper_chcan gnome-commander do it?09:43
kalikianaEvery program can access samba shares. o_O09:43
nikinhyper_ch: no, couse 1.2.3 has no smbauth and 1.2.4 has a lot of deps from the latest CVS gnome09:44
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nikinmy fav was krusader so far, but i try to avoid using QT based programs09:45
hyper_chnikin: why?09:45
hyper_chnikin: why krusader over konqui and why avoiding qt proggies?09:45
nikini tried smbc but it locks up .... mc... it needs to specify the workgroup and is not capable listing the computers09:46
nikinhyper_ch: avoiding QT so that the system both in handeling and in design integrity and krusader couse i like the 2 panel aproach09:47
hyper_chnikin: Konqui has as many panes as you want09:47
hyper_chnikin: I normally use a 3-4 pane approach ;)09:47
nikinhyper_ch: konq is not a program for systems with 128 mb ram, bytheway Krusader isnt that much better09:48
hyper_chget some more ram ;)09:48
nikinhyper_ch: notebook EDO ram is not something that you can just... get... and the BIOS can not handle more09:49
hyper_chnikin: get a new one ;) sorry :)09:49
nikinhyper_ch: i have some new one... :D but i want is old little thing to work.... :D09:50
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nikinhyper_ch: i can do it with mc and smbtree if there isnt any way to handle that... or can write a program that automates things using smbmount but i could not belive that noone had a need for a lightwheyght program for network file management09:53
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kalleperssonHi there. How hard is it to "upgrade" from Xubuntu (6.06) to Ubuntu Feisty?09:58
Jester45very easy if it works right10:03
arooAnyone suggest an xfce temperature monitor?10:09
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aroo(for cpu, to be specific)10:10
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BFTDscrew it10:12
BFTDI'll just convert it to pdf and do it that way10:12
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predaeusaroo, panel sensors plugin10:17
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jeeklMinimum specs to run/install xubuntu to a box without network access?11:19
maxamillionjeekl: i've tested it on a pentium 100mhz w/ 64mb of ram ... its slow, but given the age of the hardware its expected11:21
zialswhat OS are you currently running?11:21
jeeklmaxamillion: Gotcha.11:21
jeeklI am going to "repair" my grandpas computer tomorrow. It currently runs Window 95 and I wondered if I even should bother bringing any alternative software11:22
aroowhat's his system specs11:26
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lampyriscan i use ubuntu's icon in xubuntu?11:29
crimsunfor personal use, of course.11:29
arooyea, why not?11:29
lampyrismmm sorry, pheraps i don't explain very well :)11:30
lampyrisi like ubuntu's icon. In my opinion there are better than xubuntu's icon11:31
lampyrisi like use ubuntu's icon on xubuntu11:31
aroolampyris: do you mean the file icons and the icon theme?11:31
kalleperssonI think he probably wants it in the xfce-menu11:31
kalleperssonAm I right?11:31
kalikianalampyris, You mean replacing the xubuntu logo with the ubuntu logo? Of course you can do that. :)11:31
lampyrisnot replace logo, but icon :) wait a moment...11:32
kalikianaJust right-click the menu and select a different icon :P11:32
lampyrisfor example this http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu_HumanAzul?content=3709911:34
kalikianalampyris, That is a GTK theme, not an icon. You can use that of course.11:35
lampyrisType:  Icon Theme11:36
lampyrisdevice's icon11:36
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gerrois there a grub option to not load floppy support?11:45
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