[12:32] <TheSheep> attention span of a mayfly
[06:13] (Jester45/#xubuntu) o... i dont think the choose has it
[06:13] (Jester45/#xubuntu) i wasnt sure what you where talking about
[06:13] (Ghostvirus/#xubuntu) yeah, the open/save dialog
[06:14] <Jester45> toasted a brand new 250gb sata 300 drive a week ago
[06:14] <jtg23> alright, i just realized there is no version 6.1(?) so i do need to get one of these wifi cards working under my existing hardware situation
[06:14] <Ghostvirus> ouch
[06:15] <Jester45> i was just about to have i dedicated movie storage drive
[06:15] <jtg23> snap, i should make a backup...
[06:15] <Jester45> and it whent pop/band/zap
[06:15] <Ghostvirus> i like external HDs
[06:15] <Ghostvirus> saves trouble
[06:15] <Jester45> to slow...
[06:16] <jtg23> not once you get it going!
[06:16] <jtg23> i use mine on my mac and it's slow to buffer but not too, too bad
[06:16] <jtg23> you can stream video
[06:16] <jtg23> 8mb cache
[06:16] <jtg23> gotta have it
[06:16] <jtg23> i want one of those hybrid flash ram drives
[06:16] <Jester45> the cache has little to do with what the line can handle
[06:17] <jtg23> oh and to get my wifi card working on xubuntu 7.04 with either the linksys with the broadcom or the airlink with the 1211 chipset
[06:17] <Chikubu> hope the warranty covered it
[06:17] <Jester45> a drive connected via usb will not beat internal or ethernet connected
[06:17] <jtg23> no but the cache helps when you pause the vid to take phone calls and restart it
[06:17] <jtg23> of course not
[06:17] <jtg23> well not gigabit
[06:19] <Chikubu> my usb wireless adapater worked with default xubuntu install, didnt need to add anything specail, other than a nice gui to help manage it
[06:22] <Jester45> jtg23, and firewire is a bit faster in the real world... but usb 2 fullspeed *should* be a bit faster but its normaly not
[06:22] <Jester45> and apples fireware 800 is much faster
[06:24] <Jester45> be back in a bit
[06:28] <Chikubu> i want to mount a cd image created with blind write in windows, what util would i use, or do i need to convert to iso? what would i use to convert to iso?
[06:28] <BFTD> hi I'm looking for a power point program
[06:29] <Chikubu> the open office suite has presentation software
[06:30] <Ghostvirus> Chikubu, what format does blindwrite use?
[06:32] <BFTD> Chikubu yeah but ti crashes
[06:32] <Chikubu> it writes blind write format
[06:32] <Chikubu> makes a blind write image file .bwi
[06:33] <Chikubu> think its just raw inside the file
[06:34] <Chikubu> also makes a .bws and .bwt file along with the main but not sure those are completly nessacary
[06:34] <Ghostvirus> Chikubu, yeah, i think you'll have to convert to ISO
[06:35] <Chikubu> ill start poking around for some utility to do it, how do you mount an .iso?  is it built into linux or do i need something
[06:36] <Ghostvirus> Chikubu, you can do it from the command line, like "sudo mount /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mountpoint"
[06:36] <Chikubu> ok, built in...cool
[06:36] <Ghostvirus> or you could install an app like CDemu: http://cdemu.sourceforge.net
[06:36] <Ghostvirus> never used it though, so i'm not sure if there are better apps out there
[06:38] <Chikubu> in windows it would be nessacary to run a program to fool windows into thinking it was a cd or the progs wouldnt run, had to mount that way
[06:38] <Chikubu> not sure what wines gonna make out of it
[06:38] <Chikubu> gonna find out
[06:38] <Ghostvirus> yeah, i use daemon tools on xp
[06:38] <Jester45> whats going on
[06:39] <Ghostvirus> fun with cd images and virtual drives
[06:39] <Jester45> wine wouldnt know the diffrence if you mounted a iso or had a cd in the drive... just like the rest of the system
[06:40] <Jester45> Ghostvirus, ya... but linux can do as many as you want not only 4
[06:40] <Chikubu> well thats good
[06:41] <Jester45> they problem with wine might be if you dont tell wine where you "cd" drives are
[06:41] <Jester45> unless you mount in /dev/cdrom0 and wine is all ready looking there
[06:42] <Ghostvirus> well i've never bothered with mounting ISOs under linux, just a few times in windows for some games
[06:43] <BFTD> ?
[06:43] <BFTD> you can do that?
[06:44] <Jester45> yeps
[06:44] <BFTD> what program do you use to watch them
[06:45] <Jester45> mplayer or vlc
[06:45] <Jester45> noramly mplayer
[06:45] <BFTD> oh
[06:46] <BFTD> oh
[06:47] <Ghostvirus> oh yeah, i noticed that when i insert an audio cd into my computer, it shows up on my desktop, but xubuntu says it's not mounted
[06:47] <Ghostvirus> if i try to mount it, i get some error. is that normal for audio cds?
[06:48] <MetaCube> whats the command to upgrade again? apt-get upgrade? that seems to miss some items
[06:48] <Ghostvirus> apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:49] <Jester45> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:49] <Jester45> or dist-upgrade
[06:49] <MetaCube> ah the dist was the one i was trying to remeber thanx
[06:53] <Ghostvirus> so does anyone know what's up with the audio cd thing?
[06:55] <Ghostvirus> if i try to play a cd with audacious, it says there aren't any cds mounted, yet grip finds the audio tracks with no problem
[06:59] <cjae_> Ghostvirus, don't think audio discs must be mounted
[07:01] <cjae_> Ghostvirus, http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/music.html
[07:02] <Ghostvirus> cjae_, any idea what would cause audacious to think there's no audio cd to play?
[07:03] <Ghostvirus> it's not really a big problem, since i rarely play audio cds anyway. maybe it's just an audacious-specific problem, since grip finds the disc just fine
[07:10] <Ghostvirus> hm, after taking a look at the audacious forum, i believe i may have found a solution to my problem
[07:13] <Ghostvirus> well since everyone else has already taken off, i guess i'll call it a night too
[08:37] <gerro> few buddies in here earlier were discussing virtualbox so I went to install the ubuntu package at the virtualbox site however it shows a license agreement and doesn't do anything I can't accept or cancel and my entire add/remove apt system is locked up on that package
[08:37] <gerro> any ideas?
[08:38] <gerro> ohhh never mind I figured it out... have to press arrow key then enter..
[08:38] <gerro> that makes no sense what so ever but it works
[08:40] <TheSheep> like most software
[08:41] <gerro> I was pressing arrow key to scroll down but it wanted me to press the right arrow key and not the left one
[08:41] <gerro> which is really odd
[08:42] <gerro> damn its late I'm getting some sleep
[08:42] <gerro> byes
[12:17] <DaBeowulf> Please help me, how do I get into the terminal only (No X running) with telinit 3 runlevel without gdm starting up on me?
[12:21] <DaBeowulf> Or what does make gdm restart when I terminate it?
[01:16] <benpicco> Hi, how do I acces a samba share in a Windows server?
[01:16] <benpicco> !samba
[01:16] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:17] <benpicco> ah, ok, never mind
[01:44] <benpicco> ok, something is wrong here
[01:45] <benpicco> I can log in on the server using smbclient
[01:45] <benpicco> but when it comes to mounting the share, I have no acces
[01:45] <benpicco> (The account has no password - I did't configure this ;) )
[01:46] <benpicco> so do I have to leave it blant in fstab?
[01:46] <benpicco> *blank
[01:47] <benpicco> so username=accountname, password=>blank<
[01:47] <benpicco> oh, got 2 go now..
[01:48] <benpicco> any (quick) solution?
[01:49] <benpicco> (I just have to press enter when smbclient prompts me for the pw
[01:49] <benpicco>  - there are no errors while mounting, too, but I always get "Permission Denied"
[01:50] <benpicco> where I can acces everything with smbclient
[01:51] <benpicco> however, I have to go..
[03:22] <homebrewcider> what's the best way to get the scanning functions going in my Canon MP510 printer/scanner please?
[04:12] <namelessjon> Is there some way I can make Terminal aware of the paths I set in .bash_profile, without running 'source .bash_profile'?
[04:20] <|jason|> i am trying to build pidgin on xubuntu fiesty -- i seem to recall there was a package that had to be installed first but i cant find it -- can someone point me in the right direction?
[05:02] <gerro> got this old dell latitude and was going to install xubuntu on it but when booting the cd it says Buffer I/O error on device fd0 and the same message for sr0 repeatedly and hasn't done anything yet..
[05:03] <gerro> perhaps a bios setting problem, cd defect, maybe broken hardware?
[05:04] <mig5> gerro, try the alternate install cd if there is one for xubuntu?
[05:04] <mig5> or does it do that on all boot cds?
[05:04] <gerro> this is the first time I've tried a boot cd on it
[05:04] <gerro> I've heard dell latitude mentioned a lot in linux support forums so I expected some problems from it
[05:05] <mig5> try booting the cd in another computer and see if it works in that
[05:05] <gerro> I have
[05:05] <gerro> I used it for 4 other computers installation including one I'm on now
[05:06] <gerro> just yesterday I was booting it up on another machine
[05:06] <mig5> have you got any other bootable cds laying around?
[05:06] <gerro> not really most them really old copies of ubuntu
[05:06] <mig5> try one of them, just to see if it can boot anything?
[05:07] <Stormx2> How much memory does a default xubuntu install use with no apps open?
[05:07] <gerro> I think 192
[05:07] <mig5> People have it working on 128mb
[05:08] <gerro> but for installing takes 192
[05:08] <mig5> not with alternate cd
[05:08] <gerro> he said with no apps open so i assumed it was live cd
[05:09] <mig5> o yeah ur right, well i guess 128 is bare minimum
[05:10] <gerro> it has to do some uncompressing and other stuff to install so needs more ram for doing that
[05:10] <mig5> yeah
[05:11] <gerro> my one computer has 60.5 mb ram so
[05:11] <mig5> with xubuntu?
[05:11] <gerro> I sort of gave up on bothering with alternate cd too
[05:11] <mig5> o
[05:11] <gerro> nah I use damn small on that one
[05:12] <mig5> thats quite a nice linux, i tried it once
[05:13] <gerro> I was hoping to copy over a few settings from it to xubuntu and vica versa
[05:13] <gerro> like I got thunar setup on it too
[05:13] <mig5> i dont like thunar, it hangs on me
[05:13] <mig5> im using xfe at the moment
[05:14] <gerro> yeah you have to make an index for /usr/bin seeing as it opens there all the time by default
[05:14] <gerro> xfe?
[05:14] <mig5> xfe is like a really light weight file manager thats based on rox
[05:15] <mig5>  yeah you have to make an index for /usr/bin seeing as it opens there all the time by default --- how do i do that?
[05:15] <gerro> don't know its a feature of ext3
[05:16] <gerro> some sort of command to use
[05:16] <gerro> you can do it for all of your folders if you like but it takes little bit extra hard drive space
[05:16] <mig5> ext3 is a type of filesystem isnt it?
[05:16] <gerro> yeah but it has lots of features
[05:17] <mig5> i have jornalised something or other, i dont think its ext3
[05:17] <gerro> I also tuned my ext3 for writeback support supposedly things load faster
[05:17] <gerro> yeah there are a lot of journalised file systems
[05:18] <gerro> like reiserfs is another popular one commonly used on linux
[05:18] <mig5> hmm i dont know what the exact one that i have
[05:18] <gerro> use synaptic to check what fcsk your using
[05:18] <gerro> you need different tools for different file systems
[05:19] <gerro> mikey! what up man
[05:20] <mig5> i dont have any fcsk packages installed =(
[05:20] <mikeconcepts> what is the extra step I've forgotten to connect to a share created in xubuntu from windows. Windows asks for username and password, but just keeps asking
[05:21] <mikeconcepts> permissions thing?
[05:21] <TheSheep> mikeconcepts: it's 'fsck'
[05:21] <TheSheep> sorry
[05:21] <TheSheep> mig5: it's 'fsck'
[05:22] <mig5> thanks, in that case i have ext2
[05:22] <gerro> oops my bad
[05:22] <mikeconcepts> the share is on xubuntu and I'm trying to connect to it from windows
[05:22] <TheSheep> mig5: just 'fsck' alone should autodetect the filesystem and use apropriate 'fsck.*' automatically
[05:23] <mig5> can i index usr/bin/ if i have ext2?
[05:23] <TheSheep> mikeconcepts: you configured it using 'system->shared folders'?
[05:23] <mikeconcepts> yes
[05:23] <TheSheep> mig5: index?
[05:24] <mig5>  yeah you have to make an index for /usr/bin seeing as it opens there all the time by default --- said gerro
[05:24] <mig5> its to make thunar work
[05:24] <gerro> that is not the proper term but it functions similar
[05:24] <gerro> not thunar its to make things load the file system faster for that directory seeing as it has lots of files
[05:25] <TheSheep> first time I hear about it
[05:25] <mig5> i dont get it though, because xfe loads usr/bin and usr/lib quickly
[05:26] <TheSheep> mig5: what is the problem?
[05:26] <mig5> thunar hangs on me when i open folders that have lots of stuff in
[05:27] <TheSheep> mig5: what version?
[05:27] <TheSheep> mig5: which xubuntu are yo using?
[05:27] <gerro> mine does the same usually
[05:27] <mig5> 0.8
[05:27] <mig5> xubuntu 7.04
[05:27] <mig5> feisty
[05:28] <mig5> i thought it was just because thunar is still in developerment and so its buggy
[05:29] <TheSheep> mig5: how does it hang? is mouse working? numlock? can you restart with alt+ctrl+backspace or do you have to reset your computer manually?
[05:29] <TheSheep> mig5: no, Thunar in feisty is stable
[05:29] <TheSheep> mig5: should have no bugs
[05:29] <gerro> its not hanging its just opening an enormous directory by default every time he browses to find an image for an icon or other small tasks
[05:30] <mig5> just the program hangs, the thunar window goes white and i have to kill the process to get rid of it
[05:30] <mig5> i can still use my computer when it does it
[05:30] <gerro> yeah what your system specs mig5?
[05:30] <mig5> 512mb mem, 2500 (1.8ghz) pro
[05:30] <TheSheep> that's still bad -- it shouldn't happen
[05:31] <gerro> well your case is more serious than mine
[05:31] <gerro> no clue why it crashes
[05:31] <TheSheep> mig5: works resonably well for me on much weaker box
[05:31] <TheSheep> oh well
[05:31] <TheSheep> !bugs | mig5
[05:31] <ubotu> mig5: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:31] <gerro> you use a different file system though too
[05:31] <mig5> i dont have any file indexing software like beagle if that would make a difference?
[05:31] <TheSheep> mig5: try to include all the details you can think might be relevant
[05:31] <mikeconcepts> guess I'll have to manually go through the whole samba setup process manually, figured by now that would have been automated
[05:32] <TheSheep> mikeconcepts: no
[05:32] <TheSheep> mikeconcepts: sorry, again not to you :)
[05:32] <TheSheep> mig5: no
[05:32] <TheSheep> mikeconcepts: apparently something went wrong
[05:33] <TheSheep> mikeconcepts: but you don't have to go through the *whole* process -- most of the configuration is done
[05:33] <mig5> ill do the bug report thing but I'm ok really because i just use xfe file manager instead
[05:33] <mikeconcepts> once I get into it, perhaps the problem will surface
[05:34] <TheSheep> mig5: if you report it, it will get fixed :)
[05:34] <TheSheep> mig5: I often had bugs fixed the smae day I reported them in xfce
[05:35] <mig5> umm do i have to sign up for this launch pad thing or is it the same as my forum account?
[05:35] <TheSheep> mig5: not sure, you put your e-mail as a login
[05:36] <mig5> no its not, i have to make an account
[05:36] <TheSheep> mig5: but it works for wiki too :)
[05:36] <occidere> Hello everybody. Does anybody know, how to stop the autoplay feature for audio cds of gxine? I'm running Feisty with Xfce.
[05:38] <mig5> im making the account now...
[05:41] <manu640> hi @ all
[05:41] <TheSheep> occidere: open thunar, go to edit->preferences->advanced->configure volume management
[05:42] <manu640> i have here an old pc with mainboard from 1999, i built in a 160GB HHD and the bios found it, but after installing xubuntu on a 80GB primary partition, i get an grub 18 error
[05:42] <manu640> what shall i do, do i need a pci controller
[05:42] <manu640> its the first partition on the disk
[05:43] <occidere> Thanks a lot, TheSheep.
[05:43] <manu640> :( dont know what the biggest bios is which the bios recognizes
[05:43] <TheSheep> manu640: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18
[05:45] <TheSheep> manu640: make a small /boot partition
[05:45] <TheSheep> manu640: say, 40MB
[05:45] <mikeconcepts> all I needed was sudo smbpasswd -L -a "username"
[05:45] <mikeconcepts> and -e to enable
[05:46] <TheSheep> mikeconcepts: thanks, we can pass it on when someone has similar problems
[05:46] <manu640> TheSheep ok, and how do i know how big the boot partition has to be? because when i install some applications etc
[05:46] <Jester45> anyone know how to control a fan's speed
[05:46] <TheSheep> manu640: applications are installed mainly to /usr, the /boot partition only contains kernels
[05:47] <TheSheep> manu640: count about 16-20MB per kernel, you only need two kernels at any time
[05:47] <manu640> TheSheep yes i know, but letts say there will be 3 kernel updates, and the partition is to small? ... :/
[05:47] <TheSheep> manu640: make it 80MB to be safe :)
[05:47] <mig5> is this ok TheSheep: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/122146
[05:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122146 in ubuntu-bots "Thunar crashes upon opening folders" [Undecided,New] 
[05:47] <TheSheep> manu640: you can remove the old kernels
[05:47] <TheSheep>               https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/122146
[05:47] <TheSheep> argh
[05:47] <TheSheep> sorry
[05:49] <TheSheep> mig5: 'freezes' instead of 'crashes' would be more accurate, but it's too late now to change :)
[05:49] <TheSheep> mig5: I think it's fine, thank you
[05:49] <mig5> how do i know if they've fixed it?
[05:50] <gerro> hey I found out the laptop is a dell latitude C640 and the problem is related to the fact the dvd/cdrw can actually be taken out and switched with floppy drive
[05:50] <gerro> that is very odd..
[05:50] <mig5> gerro, did you manage to get it to boot then?
[05:51] <TheSheep> mig5: you'll get an e-mail every time somethng changes with that bug, because you are subscribed to it as a reporter
[05:51] <TheSheep> mig5: you can unsubscribe in the toolbar on the left if you want
[05:52] <mig5> no ill leave it subscribed, i want to know if they fix it
[05:52] <gerro> mig5: some people mentioned using the alternate install cd
[05:52] <manu640> TheSheep i red that tehre is a maximum size of 512MB is that right, so if that work i dont have to remove kernels?
[05:52] <TheSheep> gerro: what was the problem?
[05:52] <manu640> how to remover kernels with ubuntu?
[05:53] <TheSheep> manu640: just uninstall them with synaptic -- they are packages like any other applications
[05:53] <gerro> TheSheep: the problem is it has a floppy that is swappable with the cdrom
[05:53] <TheSheep> manu640: they are just never removed automatically
[05:53] <gerro> TheSheep: so I'm got to disable floppy or use alternate install cd
[05:53] <mig5> hey sheep i just thought of something, could my thunar be freezing because my harddisk only has like 2gb free space?
[05:54] <TheSheep> mig5: no
[05:54] <mig5> or because my home partition only has 1gb?
[05:54] <Jester45> thats somthing windows would do
[05:54] <manu640> ok The sheep so i will try a new installation with 80MB bootpartition
[05:54] <manu640> :)
[05:54] <TheSheep> manu640: the maximum size of the boot partition that will work depends on the cylinder size of your hard disk drive
[05:55] <TheSheep> manu640: it must be smaller than 1024 cylinders
[05:55] <TheSheep> mig5: it works fine with even 10kB free space in home and no free space anywhere else
[05:56] <mig5> o ok
[05:56] <TheSheep> mig5: I tested it XD
[05:56] <gerro> can't quite figure out how to turn off the floppy
[05:56] <TheSheep> mig5: the problem might be connected with GAM somehow
[05:56] <gerro> it has the boot section in bios and shows arrows pointing to diskette drive
[05:56] <mig5> whats GAM?
[05:56] <manu640> TheSheep 160GB
[05:56] <gerro> gam server you mean?
[05:57] <TheSheep> mig5: it's a daemon that keeps track of when files are modified, so that Thunar refreshes automatically
[05:58] <TheSheep> mig5: but for it to work, Thunar must tell it which files to watch -- maybe this is taking that much time? (just a wild guess)
[05:58] <mig5> will this gam show up in processes?
[05:59] <mig5> yes it does, gam_server
[05:59] <TheSheep> mig5: yes, it's 'gam' or 'gamin'
[05:59] <gerro> I wish I could get the livecd to do same function of alternate cd
[05:59] <manu640> TheSheep the HDD is 160GB big
[05:59] <tuxcrafter> hello guys
[05:59] <gerro> just skip to installing
[05:59] <manu640> is 80MB for /boot enough?
[05:59] <tuxcrafter> where can i found all the desktop shortcuts?
[06:00] <tuxcrafter> manu640: I have a high mem machine 1 GB DDR and i optimesed xubuntu and use 84 MB at startup
[06:00] <tuxcrafter> so 80 MB should be possible
[06:00] <tuxcrafter> however i f you load firefox or thunderbird or open office mem will soon use 200 MB
[06:01] <gerro> I found this post that explains what to do to prevent those buffer I/O errors https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/95857 that bottom post where would I enter those commands from?
[06:01] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 95857 in linux-source-2.6.20 "[feisty]  kernel boot delayed 60 secs on floppy error" [Low,Confirmed] 
[06:02] <gerro> oh darn that is for alternate cd too
[06:02] <mig5> I found some people on the forums who are also having problems with thunar http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=368871&highlight=thunar+freeze
[06:03] <tuxcrafter> where can i found all the desktop shortcuts?
[06:05] <tuxcrafter> i am looking for the shortcut to move a app to the second desktop
[06:05] <tuxcrafter> or left right
[06:05] <tuxcrafter> previous next
[06:05] <TheSheep> tuxcrafter: settings->window manager->keayboard
[06:05] <manu640> i set a bootflag to partition 1 with /boot
[06:05] <manu640> is that ok?
[06:06] <TheSheep> manu640: yes
[06:06] <tuxcrafter> TheSheep: ah there they are
[06:06] <tuxcrafter> i was searching at the keyboard settings
[06:06] <tuxcrafter> alt+control+home
[06:07] <TheSheep> tuxcrafter: yes, it's a tad inconvenient
[06:08] <manu640> TheSheep i made the following: 82.2MB /boot primary partition with bootflag | 80.0GB / primary partition | swap logical partition with 1.0GB | /home primary partition with 79.0GB
[06:08] <manu640> in this order
[06:12] <laserbeak43> crap i forgot i havent done the xineorama thing yet...
[06:12] <tuxcrafter> manu640: oeps i thought you ware talking about memory :-D
[06:15] <tuxcrafter> bye guys
[06:15] <tuxcrafter> i having lunch
[06:22] <laserbeak43> in xorg.conf whats the diff between section "screen" and section "monitor"?
[06:27] <Jester45> the monitor section tells about the acual moniter and the screen is like, what the output should be i think
[06:28] <Jester45> or... the monitor section is there so you can tell wich card to output to what moniter
[06:28] <Merchelo> is there an anyway to fix grub after install win xp on a seperate partition?
[06:31] <laserbeak43> Jester45: ok thanks i'll take a better look at it and see if i can tell the difference
[06:32] <Pumpernickel> !grub | Merchelo
[06:32] <ubotu> Merchelo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:34] <Merchelo> excellent, thanks Pumpernickel
[06:44] <nipun> hello people
[06:44] <nipun> and hello TheSheep
[06:44] <nipun> :)
[06:44] <nipun> remember me?
[06:45] <nipun> guys i need some help
[06:45] <laserbeak43> hi nipun
[06:45] <nipun> hi laserbreak43
[06:46] <nipun> I am remastering xubuntu livecd
[06:46] <gerro> someone mentioned if I waited for all the buffer I/O errors to end that xubuntu live cd would load like normal but it didn't displays ash prompt
[06:46] <laserbeak43> how do i browse files graphicaly as root?
[06:46] <nipun> login as root?
[06:46] <laserbeak43> i didn't think you canlog in as root
[06:46] <nipun> you can
[06:46] <laserbeak43> but i just want to browse as root on any account
[06:47] <nipun> first you gotta enable local administrative login
[06:47] <laserbeak43> whats the command for that?
[06:47] <nipun> some gkthunar or something, i dont rem
[06:47] <nipun> gksudo thunar
[06:47] <nipun> i guess
[06:47] <laserbeak43> hmm ok
[06:47] <laserbeak43> thanks i'm prolly gonna have to google this one :)
[06:47] <nipun> err no, its not
[06:48] <nipun> i think the easiest way would be to login as root
[06:49] <nipun> anyways
[06:49] <laserbeak43> yeah it prolly would be
[06:49] <nipun> I am looking for some help myself
[06:49] <laserbeak43> but i just wanna stay outta that account if i can
[06:49] <laserbeak43> yeah what was ur question again?
[06:49] <nipun> yeah that would be best
[06:49] <nipun> I am remastering xubuntu live cd
[06:49] <nipun> wanted to know what all can i remove
[06:49] <nipun> i just need firefox
[06:49] <nipun> and flash and java
[06:49] <nipun> that's it
[06:50] <nipun> nothing else
[06:50] <laserbeak43> just a minimal web browsing xubuntu hah?
[06:50] <nipun> not even installation files
[06:50] <laserbeak43> well
[06:50] <nipun> yeah
[06:50] <nipun> a kiosk
[06:50] <laserbeak43> i dunno if synaptic does this bu
[06:50] <laserbeak43> t
[06:50] <laserbeak43> can you delete installed files and all of their dependacies will automaticaly get uninstalled as well?
[06:51] <laserbeak43> cause if so, i'd assume you could downgrade and see what you needed and what you didnt
[06:51] <laserbeak43> i could be wrong of course
[06:51] <laserbeak43> can you run firefox without a wm?
[06:51] <nipun> no
[06:52] <nipun> it needs one
[06:52] <nipun> that's why i am using xubuntu
[06:52] <nipun> for xfce
[06:52] <nipun> actually there are programs to do what i want
[06:52] <nipun> but they work with k/ubunut
[06:52] <nipun> not xubuntu
[06:52] <nipun> so i needed some manual help
[06:53] <laserbeak43> well i'll shut up and stop spamming your topic so the other guys can see then, good luck :)
[06:53] <nipun> lol kay
[06:53] <nipun> i think i ll go in some other channel
[06:53] <nipun> this seems to be very quiet
[06:58] <gerro> how do I remove every driver, daemon, module, and config ever related or associated with nvidia from my system?
[06:58] <gerro> after trying to install linux-k7 kernel my graphics card now has about 5 other older modules competing over who gets the monitor
[06:58] <laserbeak43> Jester45: gonna try it now(xinerama) fingers crossed
[07:05] <gerro> alright then now to do locate command and rm -Rf anything named nvidia
[07:05] <gerro> wish me luck peeps
[07:08] <nominaladversary> Hi, i was looking for a way to install windows2k over my xubuntu install...when i insert the 2k boot cd, ubuntu just boots.
[07:10] <BFTD> nominaladversary you have to set the BIOS to boot windows 2k disk
[07:18] <nominaladversary> I'm in the bios place...i went under BOOT, but have no idea what to do from there.
[07:18] <Pumpernickel> There should be a subsection called 'boot order' or something similar.
[07:18] <Pumpernickel> Make sure it's set to boot from the cd before the hard drive.
[07:20] <nominaladversary> Check, cept I have two cd drives.
[07:21] <Pumpernickel> Use the master, then.
[07:22] <nominaladversary> There is only 1 cd option on the BIOS screen...I tried both drives, won't boot.
[07:25] <Pumpernickel> Your BIOS may be confused about having 2 to choose from.
[07:26] <Jester45> what aBOut a choose
[07:26] <Jester45> r
[07:26] <Pumpernickel> It might also be confused by jumper settings on the drives, but it's probably simpler to just pull a drive then to deal with the jumpers.
[07:26] <Jester45> my bios has somthing on F8 i think that lets you choose what to boot
[07:26] <nominaladversary> yeah, is F1 on hp desktops
[07:26] <nominaladversary> thanks for the help, i might open it up and try again
[07:26] <nominaladversary> tata
[07:30] <gerro> wtf I go through and delete everything shown by locate command after running updatedb and then install nvidia driver STILL it complains there is another driver hidden somewhere
[07:31] <gerro> I think its about reinstall time...
[07:33] <gerro> yay I found new command line to add to my great giant .sh list of remove nvidia drivers script :)
[07:33] <MrBlues_> esa
[07:34] <gerro> update-rc.d nvidia-kernel remove.. interesting
[07:41] <laserbeak43> Jester45: didn't work so far...
[07:49] <gerro> ldconfig: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/liban1.so.1 is not a symbolic link so I deleted it
[07:50] <gerro> were several other files like that I deleted because they told my nvidia driver to fuck off when I tried installing it
[07:50] <gerro> now I think my system is totally trashed :(
[07:51] <W8TAH> anyone here running kvirc on feisty?
[08:28] <DaBeowulf> How do I get a clean xorg.conf again? I think mine's messed up with trying to switch the NVidia drivers..
[08:29] <DaBeowulf> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xor doesn't suffice there neither does rm xorg.con* in the /etc/X11/ path, does it?
[08:31] <predaeus> DaBeowulf, do you have a backup of an old xorg.conf?
[08:32] <DaBeowulf> No I tried rm xorg.con* before >_<
[08:32] <predaeus> DaBeowulf, bad idea. try nvidia-xconfig
[08:32] <predaeus> but I fear that will not work without an existing xorg.conf
[08:32] <DaBeowulf> When I try to use a NVidia driver now it always fails saying the NVidia kernel module doesn't match..
[08:33] <maxamillion> DaBeowulf: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pHigh xserver-xorg" i believe is what you are looking for
[08:37] <DaBeowulf> "Ignore unvalid priority 'High'  ah nm needs to be lowercase
[08:38] <DaBeowulf> But I see me doing a fresh install from the DesktopCD yet again...
[08:39] <DaBeowulf> I don't get it I'm quite sure I used the same NVidia driver before and UT2k4 ran fine but when I got rid of windows and set it all up again it didn't render the game correctly :/
[08:40] <DaBeowulf> So I tried downgrading from glx-new to just glx and BAM NVidia Kernel mismatch crap :(
[08:42] <DaBeowulf> Even tried the driver from NVidia.com which supposedly compiles its own kernel module and it seemed to install without any errors but the same mismatch stuff again.
[08:43] <DaBeowulf> GFudge FX5200 runs with both glx and glx-new or only glx?
[08:44] <DaBeowulf> I can't find that site again where it listed the supported adapters
[09:21] <Tailsfan> Hello, I finally got to dual-boot for once
[09:21] <Tailsfan> but now I have a problem, wheneve ri shut down Xubuntu, It just Freezes and doesn't turn off teh power manually
[09:21] <Tailsfan> automatically*
[09:22] <hyper__ch> Tailsfan: what does it say? Initilizing rc.d scripts?
[09:23] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:23] <Tailsfan> No nothing, it just shows the Xubuntu Logo and teh bar empty and it does nothing
[09:24] <Tailsfan> I have 7.04
[09:28] <BFTD> hi, on OpenOffice impress, when I try to use the slide option the program crashes
[09:29] <BFTD> how do I figure out whats going wrong
[09:36] <kalikiana> BFTD, Tried to open OOo from a Terminal?
[09:36] <kalikiana> A good proggie should give some output.
[09:36] <BFTD> kalikiana whast the command btw :P
[09:37] <kalikiana> BFTD, Well, jump to /usr/share/applications and look it up, I don't know everything by heart :P
[09:37] <BFTD> kalikiana you should
[09:38] <kalikiana> Meh, shut up!
[09:39] <BFTD> is there like some way I can run it in debug mode or something?
[09:41] <nikin> hy
[09:41] <kalikiana> BFTD, I don't think you have a debug version, so not unless you recompile it.
[09:41] <kalikiana> hi nikin
[09:41] <nikin> what program do you use to work on a samba network?
[09:41] <hyper__ch> konqueror
[09:42] <kalikiana> nikin, For what? File management? Coding?
[09:42] <nikin> kalikiana: file management
[09:42] <hyper_ch> kalikiana: konqueror for both ^^
[09:42] <kalikiana> Thunar exclusively, with fusesmb.
[09:43] <nikin> i try to find a program capable for it, wich is not KDE based and not as huge as konqueror or nautilus
[09:43] <kalikiana> nikin, Try Thunar with fusesmb, it's easy.
[09:43] <hyper_ch> can gnome-commander do it?
[09:43] <kalikiana> Every program can access samba shares. o_O
[09:44] <nikin> hyper_ch: no, couse 1.2.3 has no smbauth and 1.2.4 has a lot of deps from the latest CVS gnome
[09:45] <nikin> my fav was krusader so far, but i try to avoid using QT based programs
[09:45] <hyper_ch> nikin: why?
[09:45] <hyper_ch> nikin: why krusader over konqui and why avoiding qt proggies?
[09:46] <nikin> i tried smbc but it locks up .... mc... it needs to specify the workgroup and is not capable listing the computers
[09:47] <nikin> hyper_ch: avoiding QT so that the system both in handeling and in design integrity and krusader couse i like the 2 panel aproach
[09:47] <hyper_ch> nikin: Konqui has as many panes as you want
[09:47] <hyper_ch> nikin: I normally use a 3-4 pane approach ;)
[09:48] <nikin> hyper_ch: konq is not a program for systems with 128 mb ram, bytheway Krusader isnt that much better
[09:48] <hyper_ch> get some more ram ;)
[09:49] <nikin> hyper_ch: notebook EDO ram is not something that you can just... get... and the BIOS can not handle more
[09:49] <hyper_ch> nikin: get a new one ;) sorry :)
[09:50] <nikin> hyper_ch: i have some new one... :D but i want is old little thing to work.... :D
[09:53] <nikin> hyper_ch: i can do it with mc and smbtree if there isnt any way to handle that... or can write a program that automates things using smbmount but i could not belive that noone had a need for a lightwheyght program for network file management
[09:58] <kallepersson> Hi there. How hard is it to "upgrade" from Xubuntu (6.06) to Ubuntu Feisty?
[10:03] <Jester45> very easy if it works right
[10:09] <aroo> Anyone suggest an xfce temperature monitor?
[10:10] <aroo> (for cpu, to be specific)
[10:12] <BFTD> screw it
[10:12] <BFTD> I'll just convert it to pdf and do it that way
[10:17] <predaeus> aroo, panel sensors plugin
[11:19] <jeekl> Minimum specs to run/install xubuntu to a box without network access?
[11:21] <maxamillion> jeekl: i've tested it on a pentium 100mhz w/ 64mb of ram ... its slow, but given the age of the hardware its expected
[11:21] <zials> what OS are you currently running?
[11:21] <jeekl> maxamillion: Gotcha.
[11:22] <jeekl> I am going to "repair" my grandpas computer tomorrow. It currently runs Window 95 and I wondered if I even should bother bringing any alternative software
[11:26] <aroo> what's his system specs
[11:28] <lampyris> hello
[11:29] <lampyris> can i use ubuntu's icon in xubuntu?
[11:29] <crimsun> for personal use, of course.
[11:29] <aroo> yea, why not?
[11:30] <lampyris> mmm sorry, pheraps i don't explain very well :)
[11:31] <lampyris> i like ubuntu's icon. In my opinion there are better than xubuntu's icon
[11:31] <lampyris> i like use ubuntu's icon on xubuntu
[11:31] <aroo> lampyris: do you mean the file icons and the icon theme?
[11:31] <kallepersson> I think he probably wants it in the xfce-menu
[11:31] <kallepersson> Am I right?
[11:31] <lampyris> yes
[11:31] <kalikiana> lampyris, You mean replacing the xubuntu logo with the ubuntu logo? Of course you can do that. :)
[11:32] <lampyris> not replace logo, but icon :) wait a moment...
[11:32] <kalikiana> Just right-click the menu and select a different icon :P
[11:34] <lampyris> for example this http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu_HumanAzul?content=37099
[11:35] <kalikiana> lampyris, That is a GTK theme, not an icon. You can use that of course.
[11:36] <lampyris> Type:  Icon Theme
[11:36] <lampyris> device's icon
[11:45] <gerro> is there a grub option to not load floppy support?