[12:32] attention span of a mayfly === Starting logfile irclogs/xubuntu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #xubuntu === Topic for #xubuntu: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | Downloads: http://xubuntu.org/get === Topic (#xubuntu): set by Pumpernickel at Sun May 20 02:21:34 2007 [06:13] (Jester45/#xubuntu) o... i dont think the choose has it [06:13] (Jester45/#xubuntu) i wasnt sure what you where talking about [06:13] (Ghostvirus/#xubuntu) yeah, the open/save dialog === Jester45 shuts down machine to add a new drive (will not leave computer on like last time) === Jester45 also doesnt have hotswap [06:14] toasted a brand new 250gb sata 300 drive a week ago [06:14] alright, i just realized there is no version 6.1(?) so i do need to get one of these wifi cards working under my existing hardware situation [06:14] ouch [06:15] i was just about to have i dedicated movie storage drive [06:15] snap, i should make a backup... [06:15] and it whent pop/band/zap [06:15] i like external HDs [06:15] saves trouble [06:15] to slow... [06:16] not once you get it going! [06:16] i use mine on my mac and it's slow to buffer but not too, too bad [06:16] you can stream video [06:16] 8mb cache === Jester45 has a "external" storage called a ftp server [06:16] gotta have it [06:16] i want one of those hybrid flash ram drives [06:16] the cache has little to do with what the line can handle [06:17] oh and to get my wifi card working on xubuntu 7.04 with either the linksys with the broadcom or the airlink with the 1211 chipset [06:17] hope the warranty covered it [06:17] a drive connected via usb will not beat internal or ethernet connected [06:17] no but the cache helps when you pause the vid to take phone calls and restart it [06:17] of course not [06:17] well not gigabit [06:19] my usb wireless adapater worked with default xubuntu install, didnt need to add anything specail, other than a nice gui to help manage it [06:22] jtg23, and firewire is a bit faster in the real world... but usb 2 fullspeed *should* be a bit faster but its normaly not [06:22] and apples fireware 800 is much faster [06:24] be back in a bit === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.108.80.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.108.80.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA is now known as BFTD [06:28] i want to mount a cd image created with blind write in windows, what util would i use, or do i need to convert to iso? what would i use to convert to iso? [06:28] hi I'm looking for a power point program === Catoptromancy [n=cat@blk-7-225-55.eastlink.ca] has joined #xubuntu [06:29] the open office suite has presentation software [06:30] Chikubu, what format does blindwrite use? [06:32] Chikubu yeah but ti crashes [06:32] it writes blind write format [06:32] makes a blind write image file .bwi [06:33] think its just raw inside the file === Jester45 [n=ryan@72-161-58-33.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:34] also makes a .bws and .bwt file along with the main but not sure those are completly nessacary [06:34] Chikubu, yeah, i think you'll have to convert to ISO [06:35] ill start poking around for some utility to do it, how do you mount an .iso? is it built into linux or do i need something [06:36] Chikubu, you can do it from the command line, like "sudo mount /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mountpoint" [06:36] ok, built in...cool [06:36] or you could install an app like CDemu: http://cdemu.sourceforge.net [06:36] never used it though, so i'm not sure if there are better apps out there === Jester45 [n=ryan@72-161-58-33.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:38] in windows it would be nessacary to run a program to fool windows into thinking it was a cd or the progs wouldnt run, had to mount that way [06:38] not sure what wines gonna make out of it [06:38] gonna find out [06:38] yeah, i use daemon tools on xp [06:38] whats going on [06:39] fun with cd images and virtual drives [06:39] wine wouldnt know the diffrence if you mounted a iso or had a cd in the drive... just like the rest of the system [06:40] Ghostvirus, ya... but linux can do as many as you want not only 4 [06:40] well thats good [06:41] they problem with wine might be if you dont tell wine where you "cd" drives are [06:41] unless you mount in /dev/cdrom0 and wine is all ready looking there [06:42] well i've never bothered with mounting ISOs under linux, just a few times in windows for some games === Jester45 mounts hd dvd's because he has no drive nor disc to burn them [06:43] ? [06:43] you can do that? [06:44] yeps [06:44] what program do you use to watch them [06:45] mplayer or vlc [06:45] noramly mplayer [06:45] oh [06:46] oh [06:47] oh yeah, i noticed that when i insert an audio cd into my computer, it shows up on my desktop, but xubuntu says it's not mounted [06:47] if i try to mount it, i get some error. is that normal for audio cds? === MetaCube [n=Chikubu@205.163.99.131] has joined #xubuntu [06:48] whats the command to upgrade again? apt-get upgrade? that seems to miss some items [06:48] apt-get dist-upgrade [06:49] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [06:49] or dist-upgrade [06:49] ah the dist was the one i was trying to remeber thanx === cjae_ [n=cjae@142-165-37-205.estv.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #xubuntu [06:53] so does anyone know what's up with the audio cd thing? [06:55] if i try to play a cd with audacious, it says there aren't any cds mounted, yet grip finds the audio tracks with no problem [06:59] Ghostvirus, don't think audio discs must be mounted [07:01] Ghostvirus, http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/music.html [07:02] cjae_, any idea what would cause audacious to think there's no audio cd to play? [07:03] it's not really a big problem, since i rarely play audio cds anyway. maybe it's just an audacious-specific problem, since grip finds the disc just fine === MetaCube [n=Chikubu@205.163.99.131] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:10] hm, after taking a look at the audacious forum, i believe i may have found a solution to my problem [07:13] well since everyone else has already taken off, i guess i'll call it a night too === Ghostvirus [n=Ghostvir@dialup-4.233.200.32.Dial1.Manchester1.Level3.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@blk-7-225-55.eastlink.ca] has joined #xubuntu === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === benpicco [n=administ@p54B461EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === acid_x [i=acid_x@60-240-43-214.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === GrueTamer [n=tg@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === gerro [n=logmein@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:37] few buddies in here earlier were discussing virtualbox so I went to install the ubuntu package at the virtualbox site however it shows a license agreement and doesn't do anything I can't accept or cancel and my entire add/remove apt system is locked up on that package [08:37] any ideas? [08:38] ohhh never mind I figured it out... have to press arrow key then enter.. [08:38] that makes no sense what so ever but it works [08:40] like most software [08:41] I was pressing arrow key to scroll down but it wanted me to press the right arrow key and not the left one [08:41] which is really odd [08:42] damn its late I'm getting some sleep [08:42] byes === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #xubuntu === grumpymole [n=warren@c220-237-175-49.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === miramana [n=suser@85.113.145.171] has joined #xubuntu === GrueTamer [n=tg@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === ZxEfR [n=zxefr@c75-111-8-193.amrlcmta01.tx.dh.suddenlink.net] has left #xubuntu [] === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu === Pumpernickle [n=pumperni@CPE0016b6c9fba4-CM0012c9a9a6dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === Pumperni1kle [n=pumperni@CPE0016b6c9fba4-CM0012c9a9a6dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5D354.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === Pumpernickle [n=pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #xubuntu === Pumpernickle [n=pumperni@CPE0016b6c9fba4-CM0012c9a9a6dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === PatrickWst [n=Patrick@AMarseille-256-1-57-86.w90-4.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === ebeleokwuosa [n=softnefe@81.199.146.124] has joined #xubuntu === Pumperni1kle [n=pumperni@CPE0016b6c9fba4-CM0012c9a9a6dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === Dr`Maison [n=fred@62.147.164.174] has joined #xubuntu === miramana [n=suser@85.113.145.171] has left #xubuntu [] === ebeleokwuosa [n=softnefe@81.199.146.124] has left #xubuntu [] === DaBeowulf [n=stefan@pD9EBDCE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:17] Please help me, how do I get into the terminal only (No X running) with telinit 3 runlevel without gdm starting up on me? === jtg23 [n=jtzl@65-102-138-28.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:21] Or what does make gdm restart when I terminate it? === DaBeowulf [n=stefan@pD9EBDCE3.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #xubuntu [] === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #xubuntu === digitalclient [n=digitalc@host178-55.pool82104.interbusiness.it] has joined #xubuntu === benpicco [n=administ@p54B461EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:16] Hi, how do I acces a samba share in a Windows server? [01:16] !samba [01:16] samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT [01:17] ah, ok, never mind === tuna-fish [n=tuna@84-253-200-239.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #xubuntu [01:44] ok, something is wrong here [01:45] I can log in on the server using smbclient [01:45] but when it comes to mounting the share, I have no acces [01:45] (The account has no password - I did't configure this ;) ) === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.44] has joined #xubuntu [01:46] so do I have to leave it blant in fstab? [01:46] *blank [01:47] so username=accountname, password=>blank< [01:47] oh, got 2 go now.. [01:48] any (quick) solution? [01:49] (I just have to press enter when smbclient prompts me for the pw [01:49] - there are no errors while mounting, too, but I always get "Permission Denied" [01:50] where I can acces everything with smbclient [01:51] however, I have to go.. === benpicco [n=administ@p54B461EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #xubuntu [] === tuna-fish [n=tuna@84-253-196-83.satp.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #xubuntu === acid_x [i=acid_x@60-240-43-214.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === ablomen_ [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu === ablomen_ is now known as ablomen === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === homebrewcider [n=mal001@219-90-239-55.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === homebrewcider [n=mal001@219-90-239-55.ip.adam.com.au] has left #xubuntu [] === acid_x [i=acid_x@60-240-43-214.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === GrueTamer [n=tg@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === homebrewcider [n=mal001@219-90-239-55.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [03:22] what's the best way to get the scanning functions going in my Canon MP510 printer/scanner please? === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-113-30.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === homebrewcider [n=mal001@219-90-239-55.ip.adam.com.au] has left #xubuntu [] === aanderse [n=aaron@CPE0015e916db19-CM001225d7436c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu === wheels3572 [n=wheels@dsl-67-158-169-239.fairpoint.net] has joined #xubuntu === michal_c [n=michal_c@87-205-178-171.adsl.inetia.pl] has joined #xubuntu === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === namelessjon [n=jon@stott1.demon.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [04:12] Is there some way I can make Terminal aware of the paths I set in .bash_profile, without running 'source .bash_profile'? === |jason| [n=kvirc@dynamic-acs-24-239-47-12.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:20] <|jason|> i am trying to build pidgin on xubuntu fiesty -- i seem to recall there was a package that had to be installed first but i cant find it -- can someone point me in the right direction? === vidd [n=vidd@static-72-86-134-160.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === acid_x [i=acid_x@60-240-43-214.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #xubuntu === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === zials [n=zials@70.53.99.26] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@158.135.24.26] has joined #xubuntu === ric1 [n=rici@201.230.109.4] has joined #xubuntu === ric1 [n=rici@201.230.109.4] has left #xubuntu [] === mig5 [n=michael@202.Red-88-16-72.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === gerro [n=logmein@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:02] got this old dell latitude and was going to install xubuntu on it but when booting the cd it says Buffer I/O error on device fd0 and the same message for sr0 repeatedly and hasn't done anything yet.. [05:03] perhaps a bios setting problem, cd defect, maybe broken hardware? === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #xubuntu [05:04] gerro, try the alternate install cd if there is one for xubuntu? [05:04] or does it do that on all boot cds? [05:04] this is the first time I've tried a boot cd on it [05:04] I've heard dell latitude mentioned a lot in linux support forums so I expected some problems from it [05:05] try booting the cd in another computer and see if it works in that [05:05] I have [05:05] I used it for 4 other computers installation including one I'm on now [05:06] just yesterday I was booting it up on another machine [05:06] have you got any other bootable cds laying around? [05:06] not really most them really old copies of ubuntu [05:06] try one of them, just to see if it can boot anything? === Stormx2 [n=Stormx2@host-87-240-137-127.hi-velocity.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:07] How much memory does a default xubuntu install use with no apps open? [05:07] I think 192 [05:07] People have it working on 128mb [05:08] but for installing takes 192 [05:08] not with alternate cd [05:08] he said with no apps open so i assumed it was live cd [05:09] o yeah ur right, well i guess 128 is bare minimum [05:10] it has to do some uncompressing and other stuff to install so needs more ram for doing that === Pumpernickel [n=pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #xubuntu [05:10] yeah [05:11] my one computer has 60.5 mb ram so [05:11] with xubuntu? [05:11] I sort of gave up on bothering with alternate cd too [05:11] o [05:11] nah I use damn small on that one [05:12] thats quite a nice linux, i tried it once [05:13] I was hoping to copy over a few settings from it to xubuntu and vica versa [05:13] like I got thunar setup on it too [05:13] i dont like thunar, it hangs on me [05:13] im using xfe at the moment [05:14] yeah you have to make an index for /usr/bin seeing as it opens there all the time by default === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu [05:14] xfe? [05:14] xfe is like a really light weight file manager thats based on rox [05:15] yeah you have to make an index for /usr/bin seeing as it opens there all the time by default --- how do i do that? [05:15] don't know its a feature of ext3 [05:16] some sort of command to use [05:16] you can do it for all of your folders if you like but it takes little bit extra hard drive space [05:16] ext3 is a type of filesystem isnt it? [05:16] yeah but it has lots of features [05:17] i have jornalised something or other, i dont think its ext3 [05:17] I also tuned my ext3 for writeback support supposedly things load faster [05:17] yeah there are a lot of journalised file systems [05:18] like reiserfs is another popular one commonly used on linux [05:18] hmm i dont know what the exact one that i have [05:18] use synaptic to check what fcsk your using [05:18] you need different tools for different file systems === mikeconcepts [n=mike@100.142.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:19] mikey! what up man === gerro high fives mike [05:20] i dont have any fcsk packages installed =( [05:20] what is the extra step I've forgotten to connect to a share created in xubuntu from windows. Windows asks for username and password, but just keeps asking [05:21] permissions thing? [05:21] mikeconcepts: it's 'fsck' [05:21] sorry [05:21] mig5: it's 'fsck' [05:22] thanks, in that case i have ext2 [05:22] oops my bad [05:22] the share is on xubuntu and I'm trying to connect to it from windows [05:22] mig5: just 'fsck' alone should autodetect the filesystem and use apropriate 'fsck.*' automatically [05:23] can i index usr/bin/ if i have ext2? [05:23] mikeconcepts: you configured it using 'system->shared folders'? [05:23] yes [05:23] mig5: index? [05:24] yeah you have to make an index for /usr/bin seeing as it opens there all the time by default --- said gerro [05:24] its to make thunar work [05:24] that is not the proper term but it functions similar [05:24] not thunar its to make things load the file system faster for that directory seeing as it has lots of files [05:25] first time I hear about it [05:25] i dont get it though, because xfe loads usr/bin and usr/lib quickly [05:26] mig5: what is the problem? [05:26] thunar hangs on me when i open folders that have lots of stuff in [05:27] mig5: what version? [05:27] mig5: which xubuntu are yo using? [05:27] mine does the same usually [05:27] 0.8 [05:27] xubuntu 7.04 [05:27] feisty === TheSheep scratches his head === Pumpernickel [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #xubuntu [05:28] i thought it was just because thunar is still in developerment and so its buggy [05:29] mig5: how does it hang? is mouse working? numlock? can you restart with alt+ctrl+backspace or do you have to reset your computer manually? [05:29] mig5: no, Thunar in feisty is stable [05:29] mig5: should have no bugs [05:29] its not hanging its just opening an enormous directory by default every time he browses to find an image for an icon or other small tasks [05:30] just the program hangs, the thunar window goes white and i have to kill the process to get rid of it [05:30] i can still use my computer when it does it [05:30] yeah what your system specs mig5? [05:30] 512mb mem, 2500 (1.8ghz) pro [05:30] that's still bad -- it shouldn't happen [05:31] well your case is more serious than mine [05:31] no clue why it crashes [05:31] mig5: works resonably well for me on much weaker box [05:31] oh well [05:31] !bugs | mig5 [05:31] mig5: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots [05:31] you use a different file system though too [05:31] i dont have any file indexing software like beagle if that would make a difference? [05:31] mig5: try to include all the details you can think might be relevant [05:31] guess I'll have to manually go through the whole samba setup process manually, figured by now that would have been automated [05:32] mikeconcepts: no [05:32] mikeconcepts: sorry, again not to you :) [05:32] mig5: no [05:32] mikeconcepts: apparently something went wrong [05:33] mikeconcepts: but you don't have to go through the *whole* process -- most of the configuration is done [05:33] ill do the bug report thing but I'm ok really because i just use xfe file manager instead [05:33] once I get into it, perhaps the problem will surface [05:34] mig5: if you report it, it will get fixed :) [05:34] mig5: I often had bugs fixed the smae day I reported them in xfce [05:35] umm do i have to sign up for this launch pad thing or is it the same as my forum account? [05:35] mig5: not sure, you put your e-mail as a login === occidere [n=nyx@P04a9.p.pppool.de] has joined #xubuntu [05:36] no its not, i have to make an account [05:36] mig5: but it works for wiki too :) [05:36] Hello everybody. Does anybody know, how to stop the autoplay feature for audio cds of gxine? I'm running Feisty with Xfce. === [tokin] [n=ryan@dynamic-acs-24-144-225-167.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:38] im making the account now... === manu640 [n=manu@p54A0BC22.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu [05:41] hi @ all [05:41] occidere: open thunar, go to edit->preferences->advanced->configure volume management [05:42] i have here an old pc with mainboard from 1999, i built in a 160GB HHD and the bios found it, but after installing xubuntu on a 80GB primary partition, i get an grub 18 error [05:42] what shall i do, do i need a pci controller [05:42] its the first partition on the disk [05:43] Thanks a lot, TheSheep. [05:43] :( dont know what the biggest bios is which the bios recognizes [05:43] manu640: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18 === Pumpernickel [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #xubuntu [05:45] manu640: make a small /boot partition [05:45] manu640: say, 40MB [05:45] all I needed was sudo smbpasswd -L -a "username" [05:45] and -e to enable === Jester45 [n=ryan@72-161-58-33.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:46] mikeconcepts: thanks, we can pass it on when someone has similar problems [05:46] TheSheep ok, and how do i know how big the boot partition has to be? because when i install some applications etc [05:46] anyone know how to control a fan's speed [05:46] manu640: applications are installed mainly to /usr, the /boot partition only contains kernels [05:47] manu640: count about 16-20MB per kernel, you only need two kernels at any time [05:47] TheSheep yes i know, but letts say there will be 3 kernel updates, and the partition is to small? ... :/ [05:47] manu640: make it 80MB to be safe :) [05:47] is this ok TheSheep: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/122146 [05:47] Launchpad bug 122146 in ubuntu-bots "Thunar crashes upon opening folders" [Undecided,New] [05:47] manu640: you can remove the old kernels [05:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/122146 [05:47] argh [05:47] sorry === TheSheep is on windows at work --) [05:49] mig5: 'freezes' instead of 'crashes' would be more accurate, but it's too late now to change :) === gerro feels sorry for sheep if its vista [05:49] mig5: I think it's fine, thank you [05:49] how do i know if they've fixed it? [05:50] hey I found out the laptop is a dell latitude C640 and the problem is related to the fact the dvd/cdrw can actually be taken out and switched with floppy drive [05:50] that is very odd.. [05:50] gerro, did you manage to get it to boot then? [05:51] mig5: you'll get an e-mail every time somethng changes with that bug, because you are subscribed to it as a reporter [05:51] mig5: you can unsubscribe in the toolbar on the left if you want [05:52] no ill leave it subscribed, i want to know if they fix it [05:52] mig5: some people mentioned using the alternate install cd [05:52] TheSheep i red that tehre is a maximum size of 512MB is that right, so if that work i dont have to remove kernels? [05:52] gerro: what was the problem? [05:52] how to remover kernels with ubuntu? [05:53] manu640: just uninstall them with synaptic -- they are packages like any other applications [05:53] TheSheep: the problem is it has a floppy that is swappable with the cdrom [05:53] manu640: they are just never removed automatically [05:53] TheSheep: so I'm got to disable floppy or use alternate install cd [05:53] hey sheep i just thought of something, could my thunar be freezing because my harddisk only has like 2gb free space? [05:54] mig5: no [05:54] or because my home partition only has 1gb? [05:54] thats somthing windows would do [05:54] ok The sheep so i will try a new installation with 80MB bootpartition [05:54] :) [05:54] manu640: the maximum size of the boot partition that will work depends on the cylinder size of your hard disk drive [05:55] manu640: it must be smaller than 1024 cylinders [05:55] mig5: it works fine with even 10kB free space in home and no free space anywhere else [05:56] o ok [05:56] mig5: I tested it XD [05:56] can't quite figure out how to turn off the floppy [05:56] mig5: the problem might be connected with GAM somehow [05:56] it has the boot section in bios and shows arrows pointing to diskette drive [05:56] whats GAM? [05:56] TheSheep 160GB [05:56] gam server you mean? [05:57] mig5: it's a daemon that keeps track of when files are modified, so that Thunar refreshes automatically [05:58] mig5: but for it to work, Thunar must tell it which files to watch -- maybe this is taking that much time? (just a wild guess) === Pumpernickel [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #xubuntu [05:58] will this gam show up in processes? [05:59] yes it does, gam_server [05:59] mig5: yes, it's 'gam' or 'gamin' [05:59] I wish I could get the livecd to do same function of alternate cd === tuxcrafter [n=tuxcraft@84-245-7-46.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #xubuntu [05:59] TheSheep the HDD is 160GB big [05:59] hello guys [05:59] just skip to installing [05:59] is 80MB for /boot enough? [05:59] where can i found all the desktop shortcuts? === asmith421 [n=adams@p248n30.ruraltel.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:00] manu640: I have a high mem machine 1 GB DDR and i optimesed xubuntu and use 84 MB at startup === Jester45 [n=ryan@72-161-58-33.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:00] so 80 MB should be possible [06:00] however i f you load firefox or thunderbird or open office mem will soon use 200 MB [06:01] I found this post that explains what to do to prevent those buffer I/O errors https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/95857 that bottom post where would I enter those commands from? [06:01] Launchpad bug 95857 in linux-source-2.6.20 "[feisty] kernel boot delayed 60 secs on floppy error" [Low,Confirmed] [06:02] oh darn that is for alternate cd too [06:02] I found some people on the forums who are also having problems with thunar http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=368871&highlight=thunar+freeze [06:03] where can i found all the desktop shortcuts? [06:05] i am looking for the shortcut to move a app to the second desktop [06:05] or left right [06:05] previous next [06:05] tuxcrafter: settings->window manager->keayboard [06:05] i set a bootflag to partition 1 with /boot [06:05] is that ok? [06:06] manu640: yes [06:06] TheSheep: ah there they are [06:06] i was searching at the keyboard settings [06:06] alt+control+home [06:07] tuxcrafter: yes, it's a tad inconvenient [06:08] TheSheep i made the following: 82.2MB /boot primary partition with bootflag | 80.0GB / primary partition | swap logical partition with 1.0GB | /home primary partition with 79.0GB [06:08] in this order === miramana [n=suser@85.113.145.171] has joined #xubuntu === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@216-107-0-212-dhcp.nni.com] has joined #xubuntu === laserbeak43 [n=laserbea@66.16.194.201] has joined #xubuntu [06:12] crap i forgot i havent done the xineorama thing yet... [06:12] manu640: oeps i thought you ware talking about memory :-D [06:15] bye guys [06:15] i having lunch === tuxcrafter [n=tuxcraft@84-245-7-46.dsl.cambrium.nl] has left #xubuntu [] === miramana [n=suser@85.113.145.171] has left #xubuntu [] [06:22] in xorg.conf whats the diff between section "screen" and section "monitor"? === p1ng [n=p1ng@p54A9FA26.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:27] the monitor section tells about the acual moniter and the screen is like, what the output should be i think [06:28] or... the monitor section is there so you can tell wich card to output to what moniter [06:28] is there an anyway to fix grub after install win xp on a seperate partition? [06:31] Jester45: ok thanks i'll take a better look at it and see if i can tell the difference [06:32] !grub | Merchelo [06:32] Merchelo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [06:34] excellent, thanks Pumpernickel === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.218.29.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === W8TAH [n=W8TAH@static-acs-24-239-210-31.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === nipun [n=nipun@122.161.63.247] has joined #xubuntu [06:44] hello people [06:44] and hello TheSheep [06:44] :) [06:44] remember me? [06:45] guys i need some help [06:45] hi nipun [06:45] hi laserbreak43 [06:46] I am remastering xubuntu livecd [06:46] someone mentioned if I waited for all the buffer I/O errors to end that xubuntu live cd would load like normal but it didn't displays ash prompt [06:46] how do i browse files graphicaly as root? [06:46] login as root? [06:46] i didn't think you canlog in as root [06:46] you can [06:46] but i just want to browse as root on any account [06:47] first you gotta enable local administrative login [06:47] whats the command for that? [06:47] some gkthunar or something, i dont rem [06:47] gksudo thunar [06:47] i guess [06:47] hmm ok [06:47] thanks i'm prolly gonna have to google this one :) [06:47] err no, its not [06:48] i think the easiest way would be to login as root [06:49] anyways [06:49] yeah it prolly would be [06:49] I am looking for some help myself [06:49] but i just wanna stay outta that account if i can [06:49] yeah what was ur question again? [06:49] yeah that would be best [06:49] I am remastering xubuntu live cd [06:49] wanted to know what all can i remove [06:49] i just need firefox [06:49] and flash and java [06:49] that's it [06:50] nothing else [06:50] just a minimal web browsing xubuntu hah? [06:50] not even installation files [06:50] well [06:50] yeah [06:50] a kiosk [06:50] i dunno if synaptic does this bu [06:50] t [06:50] can you delete installed files and all of their dependacies will automaticaly get uninstalled as well? [06:51] cause if so, i'd assume you could downgrade and see what you needed and what you didnt [06:51] i could be wrong of course [06:51] can you run firefox without a wm? [06:51] no [06:52] it needs one [06:52] that's why i am using xubuntu [06:52] for xfce [06:52] actually there are programs to do what i want [06:52] but they work with k/ubunut [06:52] not xubuntu [06:52] so i needed some manual help [06:53] well i'll shut up and stop spamming your topic so the other guys can see then, good luck :) [06:53] lol kay [06:53] i think i ll go in some other channel [06:53] this seems to be very quiet === nipun [n=nipun@122.161.63.247] has left #xubuntu [] [06:58] how do I remove every driver, daemon, module, and config ever related or associated with nvidia from my system? [06:58] after trying to install linux-k7 kernel my graphics card now has about 5 other older modules competing over who gets the monitor [06:58] Jester45: gonna try it now(xinerama) fingers crossed === adam0509 [n=benoit@stc92-1-82-227-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #xubuntu === nipun [n=nipun@122.161.63.247] has joined #xubuntu === nipun [n=nipun@122.161.63.247] has left #xubuntu [] [07:05] alright then now to do locate command and rm -Rf anything named nvidia [07:05] wish me luck peeps === ablomen [n=ablomen@unaffiliated/ablomen] has joined #xubuntu === nominaladversary [n=Compaq_O@pool-72-76-190-192.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:08] Hi, i was looking for a way to install windows2k over my xubuntu install...when i insert the 2k boot cd, ubuntu just boots. === W8TAH [n=W8TAH@static-acs-24-239-210-31.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:10] nominaladversary you have to set the BIOS to boot windows 2k disk === W8TAH [n=W8TAH@static-acs-24-239-210-31.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === W8TAH [n=tholmes@static-acs-24-239-210-31.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:18] I'm in the bios place...i went under BOOT, but have no idea what to do from there. [07:18] There should be a subsection called 'boot order' or something similar. [07:18] Make sure it's set to boot from the cd before the hard drive. === PatrickWst [n=Patrick@AMarseille-256-1-50-47.w90-4.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [07:20] Check, cept I have two cd drives. [07:21] Use the master, then. [07:22] There is only 1 cd option on the BIOS screen...I tried both drives, won't boot. [07:25] Your BIOS may be confused about having 2 to choose from. [07:26] what aBOut a choose [07:26] r [07:26] It might also be confused by jumper settings on the drives, but it's probably simpler to just pull a drive then to deal with the jumpers. [07:26] my bios has somthing on F8 i think that lets you choose what to boot [07:26] yeah, is F1 on hp desktops [07:26] thanks for the help, i might open it up and try again [07:26] tata === nominaladversary [n=Compaq_O@pool-72-76-190-192.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has left #xubuntu [] === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h226n4c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:30] wtf I go through and delete everything shown by locate command after running updatedb and then install nvidia driver STILL it complains there is another driver hidden somewhere [07:31] I think its about reinstall time... === MrBlues_ [n=likeviny@238-84-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #xubuntu [07:33] yay I found new command line to add to my great giant .sh list of remove nvidia drivers script :) [07:33] esa [07:34] update-rc.d nvidia-kernel remove.. interesting === laserbeak43 [n=laserbea@66.16.194.201] has joined #xubuntu [07:41] Jester45: didn't work so far... === gerro [n=logmein@c-68-33-161-50.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:49] ldconfig: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/liban1.so.1 is not a symbolic link so I deleted it [07:50] were several other files like that I deleted because they told my nvidia driver to fuck off when I tried installing it [07:50] now I think my system is totally trashed :( [07:51] anyone here running kvirc on feisty? === wheels3572 [n=wheels@dsl-67-158-169-239.fairpoint.net] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.218.29.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === neozen [n=neozen@c-67-186-66-137.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@blk-7-225-55.eastlink.ca] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === |w8tah| [n=W8TAH@static-acs-24-239-210-31.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === DaBeowulf [n=stefan@pD9EBF8F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu [08:28] How do I get a clean xorg.conf again? I think mine's messed up with trying to switch the NVidia drivers.. [08:29] dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xor doesn't suffice there neither does rm xorg.con* in the /etc/X11/ path, does it? [08:31] DaBeowulf, do you have a backup of an old xorg.conf? [08:32] No I tried rm xorg.con* before >_< [08:32] DaBeowulf, bad idea. try nvidia-xconfig [08:32] but I fear that will not work without an existing xorg.conf === Catoptromancy [n=Miranda@blk-7-225-55.eastlink.ca] has joined #xubuntu [08:32] When I try to use a NVidia driver now it always fails saying the NVidia kernel module doesn't match.. [08:33] DaBeowulf: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pHigh xserver-xorg" i believe is what you are looking for [08:37] "Ignore unvalid priority 'High' ah nm needs to be lowercase [08:38] But I see me doing a fresh install from the DesktopCD yet again... [08:39] I don't get it I'm quite sure I used the same NVidia driver before and UT2k4 ran fine but when I got rid of windows and set it all up again it didn't render the game correctly :/ [08:40] So I tried downgrading from glx-new to just glx and BAM NVidia Kernel mismatch crap :( === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:42] Even tried the driver from NVidia.com which supposedly compiles its own kernel module and it seemed to install without any errors but the same mismatch stuff again. [08:43] GFudge FX5200 runs with both glx and glx-new or only glx? [08:44] I can't find that site again where it listed the supported adapters === DaBeowulf [n=stefan@pD9EBF8F9.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #xubuntu [] === elbing [n=elbing@53.Red-88-9-151.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-100-238.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === Tailsfan [n=chatzill@206-252-160-20-user.feather.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:21] Hello, I finally got to dual-boot for once [09:21] but now I have a problem, wheneve ri shut down Xubuntu, It just Freezes and doesn't turn off teh power manually [09:21] automatically* === slow-motion [n=JohnDoe@p5B06DF78.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:22] Tailsfan: what does it say? Initilizing rc.d scripts? [09:23] hallo [09:23] No nothing, it just shows the Xubuntu Logo and teh bar empty and it does nothing [09:24] I have 7.04 === miramana [n=suser@85.113.145.171] has joined #xubuntu [09:28] hi, on OpenOffice impress, when I try to use the slide option the program crashes [09:29] how do I figure out whats going wrong === Tailsfan [n=chatzill@206-252-160-20-user.feather.net] has left #xubuntu [] === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.217.231.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA is now known as BFTD === technel [n=technel@66-216-232-76.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:36] BFTD, Tried to open OOo from a Terminal? [09:36] A good proggie should give some output. [09:36] kalikiana whast the command btw :P [09:37] BFTD, Well, jump to /usr/share/applications and look it up, I don't know everything by heart :P [09:37] kalikiana you should === aroo [n=justin@108.120.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:38] Meh, shut up! === miramana [n=suser@85.113.145.171] has left #xubuntu [] [09:39] is there like some way I can run it in debug mode or something? === nikin [n=niki@dsl54009803.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #xubuntu [09:41] hy [09:41] BFTD, I don't think you have a debug version, so not unless you recompile it. [09:41] hi nikin [09:41] what program do you use to work on a samba network? [09:41] konqueror === hyper__ch is now known as hyper_ch [09:42] nikin, For what? File management? Coding? [09:42] kalikiana: file management [09:42] kalikiana: konqueror for both ^^ [09:42] Thunar exclusively, with fusesmb. [09:43] i try to find a program capable for it, wich is not KDE based and not as huge as konqueror or nautilus [09:43] nikin, Try Thunar with fusesmb, it's easy. [09:43] can gnome-commander do it? [09:43] Every program can access samba shares. o_O [09:44] hyper_ch: no, couse 1.2.3 has no smbauth and 1.2.4 has a lot of deps from the latest CVS gnome === hyper_ch sticks to Konqui :) [09:45] my fav was krusader so far, but i try to avoid using QT based programs [09:45] nikin: why? [09:45] nikin: why krusader over konqui and why avoiding qt proggies? [09:46] i tried smbc but it locks up .... mc... it needs to specify the workgroup and is not capable listing the computers [09:47] hyper_ch: avoiding QT so that the system both in handeling and in design integrity and krusader couse i like the 2 panel aproach [09:47] nikin: Konqui has as many panes as you want [09:47] nikin: I normally use a 3-4 pane approach ;) [09:48] hyper_ch: konq is not a program for systems with 128 mb ram, bytheway Krusader isnt that much better [09:48] get some more ram ;) [09:49] hyper_ch: notebook EDO ram is not something that you can just... get... and the BIOS can not handle more [09:49] nikin: get a new one ;) sorry :) [09:50] hyper_ch: i have some new one... :D but i want is old little thing to work.... :D === slurpee_ [n=slurpee@DHCP-192-115.onshore.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:53] hyper_ch: i can do it with mc and smbtree if there isnt any way to handle that... or can write a program that automates things using smbmount but i could not belive that noone had a need for a lightwheyght program for network file management === kallepersson [n=kalle@81-236-233-148-no30.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:58] Hi there. How hard is it to "upgrade" from Xubuntu (6.06) to Ubuntu Feisty? [10:03] very easy if it works right [10:09] Anyone suggest an xfce temperature monitor? === merhojt [n=Jimmy@h226n4c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #xubuntu [10:10] (for cpu, to be specific) === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.217.231.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:12] screw it [10:12] I'll just convert it to pdf and do it that way === vidd_laptop is now known as vidd [10:17] aroo, panel sensors plugin === W8TAH [n=W8TAH@static-acs-24-239-210-31.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu === cobra306 [n=lol@a81-84-86-245.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #xubuntu === cobra306 [n=lol@a81-84-86-245.cpe.netcabo.pt] has left #xubuntu [] === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #xubuntu === Smygis [n=smygis@e611.cust.vannas.net] has joined #xubuntu === jeekl [n=jeff@unaffiliated/jeekl] has joined #xubuntu [11:19] Minimum specs to run/install xubuntu to a box without network access? [11:21] jeekl: i've tested it on a pentium 100mhz w/ 64mb of ram ... its slow, but given the age of the hardware its expected [11:21] what OS are you currently running? [11:21] maxamillion: Gotcha. [11:22] I am going to "repair" my grandpas computer tomorrow. It currently runs Window 95 and I wondered if I even should bother bringing any alternative software [11:26] what's his system specs === lampyris [n=vitux@host126-90-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #xubuntu [11:28] hello [11:29] can i use ubuntu's icon in xubuntu? [11:29] for personal use, of course. [11:29] yea, why not? [11:30] mmm sorry, pheraps i don't explain very well :) [11:31] i like ubuntu's icon. In my opinion there are better than xubuntu's icon [11:31] i like use ubuntu's icon on xubuntu [11:31] lampyris: do you mean the file icons and the icon theme? [11:31] I think he probably wants it in the xfce-menu [11:31] Am I right? [11:31] yes [11:31] lampyris, You mean replacing the xubuntu logo with the ubuntu logo? Of course you can do that. :) [11:32] not replace logo, but icon :) wait a moment... [11:32] Just right-click the menu and select a different icon :P [11:34] for example this http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu_HumanAzul?content=37099 [11:35] lampyris, That is a GTK theme, not an icon. You can use that of course. 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