=== aze [n=aze@208.78.52.89] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === aze [n=aze@208.78.52.89] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.104.59] has joined #edubuntu === merriam [n=merriam@85-211-239-240.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:19] Evening all [03:21] sbalneav, evening? [03:21] you must be mistaken [03:21] 3:21AM isn't evening [03:21] so ... [03:21] morning :) [03:22] You know, that joke's getting so very, very old. [03:22] ah :'( [03:23] Well, time to make ldm interact with the greeter. === sbalneav hacks [03:34] hi sbalneav [03:34] hey LaserJock [03:39] sbalneav: so, more ldm hacking tonight? [03:40] Yeah, now that I have a greeter that can be controlled from stdin and stdout, time to get that plugged into the new ldm [03:40] that way, we can: [03:40] handle password expiry [03:40] give failed login info back to the user [03:40] other cool things [03:41] I'd like to get most things wrapped up with ldm before tribe 3, so we can get the users testing/debugging it. [03:41] I have no idea how we flag strings in a C program for translation, but we'll need some translation before we're done too. [03:50] sbalneav: hmm, I thought the greeter was part of ldm [03:50] maybe I'm confused [03:50] The greeter's actually a separate, standalone program. [03:50] separate from the display manager itself. [03:50] The idea being: we have a gtk+ based greeter, which looks gnome-ey [03:51] the Kubuntu people may like to write a greeter based on qt [03:51] so an ltsp login to a kubuntu box looks kde-ey [03:51] xfce-ey for xubuntu [03:52] and ultimately, we may produce a real-ugly-but-low-resource one based purely on xlib calls. [03:52] so long as they speak the little language on stdin and stdout, then ldm can use them to interact with the user. [03:52] ok, so what does ldm actually do then? [03:52] Cool, no? [03:53] ldm does things like: [03:53] spawn xorg itself [03:53] make the ssh connection to the server [03:53] handle autologin if specified [03:53] plumb the sound connection [03:53] etc. [03:53] it's a plumbing program, [03:53] ahhh [03:54] it just connects various bits-n-pieces together. [03:54] I was thinking of it the other way around === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-187-07.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === ath [n=ath@c-68-62-50-110.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:07] would somebody want to help me to configure dhcpd.conf? [04:09] I can't seem to get the thin clients to see the network [04:16] I am not sure how to set the subnet mask and all of that stuff === ath [n=ath@c-68-62-50-110.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:20] is anybody here? === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === ath [n=ath@c-68-62-50-110.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:37] anyone here? === ath [n=ath@c-68-62-50-110.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:42] ath: I'm here === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.44] has joined #edubuntu [08:13] hi highvoltage [08:14] hi LaserJock === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@25.Red-83-56-154.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.44] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === bluekuja_ [n=andrea@host171-43.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has joined #edubuntu === mpytasz [n=dduck@ip-91.193.160.242.b.tvsat364.lodz.pl] has joined #edubuntu === mpytasz [n=dduck@ip-91.193.160.242.b.tvsat364.lodz.pl] has joined #edubuntu === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@91.164.94.119] has joined #Edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd === pygi [n=mario@83-131-15-156.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.44] has joined #edubuntu === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-1afa2029d2a08a2e] has joined #edubuntu === Mirrakor [n=michael@p57B2F311.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=highvolt@196.1.61.44] has joined #edubuntu === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Mirrakor [n=michael@p57B2F311.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === migi [i=migi@nat/sun/x-12d84ae11d8d5fc0] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [12:27] stgraber: ping [12:28] hi RichEd === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:29] <`6og> hi all [12:29] hi juliux [12:30] & the funny roo karl chappie [12:30] ping willvdl === aze [n=aze@208.78.52.89] has joined #edubuntu [12:30] <`6og> lol [12:30] RichEd, pong [12:35] ogra: ping -> msg re server hosting === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #edubuntu === `6og [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === person [n=chatzill@mercury.k-o.org] has joined #edubuntu [02:00] hey, I am using Dapper and ltsp, i made a lts.conf file in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf. [02:00] I want to be able to play sound and use flash drives and cds on thin clients, so I wrote [02:00] SOUND = True [02:00] LOCALDEV=True [02:00] but i still can't do either..any help? [02:01] sound should work [02:01] localdev wasnt in dapper [02:01] i get something about missing gstreamer plugins on the clients and the server [02:02] when i click on the volume control [02:02] volume control doesnt work on esound forwarded sound, which is what ltsp 4.2 and ltsp 5 until feisty used [02:03] feisty uses alsa emulation for sound and provides full sound access and volume control [02:03] for older releases chack that you have a gstreamer plugin for esound support installed [02:03] *check [02:06] i have some gstreamer-esd plugin, but is it also impossible to use flash drives then? [02:06] with dapper, yes [02:07] lkocaldev support came with edgy [02:08] great thanks a lot for the help, faster response than the ubuntu irc channel [02:08] well, we're not so full here :) === t94xr [n=gfd@60-234-134-174.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === person [n=chatzill@mercury.k-o.org] has joined #edubuntu [02:55] is there any way to manually install some localdev thing to dapper [02:56] i read something after googling that it could be done manually, but no guide [02:56] not without programming and writing a bunch of scripts [02:56] you would need to patch ldm a lot [02:57] the dapper ldm doesnt know about the shh communication channel we use later [02:57] *ssh [02:57] that sounds hard [02:58] am i just better off upgrading the server to 7.04 then? [02:58] yeah, and rebuild the client with sudo ltsp-build-client [02:58] (after you upgraded the server) === pygi [n=mario@83-131-15-156.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:59] is it better to do a fresh install, i heard that there can be problems with upgrading? [03:01] that's ok, thanks a lot once again ogra [03:01] ah, well, we only support release to realease upgrades [03:02] oh, no dapper to feisty? [03:02] so instead of doiing a dapper->edgy->feisty upgrade it would likely be faster to just grab the feisty CD === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@c-69-245-220-180.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:02] great, thanks [03:03] dapper will allow upgrades to the next long term version but for normal release upgrades we only support release to release upgrades [03:03] when is the next long term version? [03:03] not sure yet ... rumours are that it might be gutsy+1 (8.04) [03:05] only 9-10 months away [03:06] wrt LTSP you are best off with feisty< (7.04) it has the most complete feature set [03:06] 7.10 will change the whole thing all over again then, we redesigned a lot :) [03:07] how do you actually becomed involved with that? [03:09] designing and programming stuff that makes it into the distro [03:10] just curious since it seems you are part of some team that does that [03:11] well, i started with helping to maintain packages ... and at some point someone looked for someone to write an app for a bounty fee ... [03:11] so i took that ... :) [03:12] easiest to get involved it to dig through bugs, find something easy and just add a fix to the bug [03:12] but indeed there are lots of other areas as well, contribution isnt limited to code ;) [03:13] i.e. docs, artwork etc === rpereira [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #edubuntu [03:14] thanks man, I'm still in high school, so maybe in a few years it would be cool to get involved [03:14] you can get involved at any time :) [03:15] even helping people here that have less experience than you is a great contribution ;) [03:15] i'll do that, i'm sorry while I have you, I wanted to ask another question [03:15] regarding feisty [03:15] sure, shoot :) [03:17] we couldn't install it on some test machines (desktop version), and i read there may be a problem with certain hardware configurations so we dropped it even for the server...how reliable and stable would it be for what we are trying to do with a server and thin clients [03:17] what was the error ? [03:20] it said "bin/sh: can't access ty; job control turned off" [03:20] *tty [03:21] before or after install ? [03:21] before, from the cd === aze [n=aze@208.78.52.89] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === aze [n=aze@208.78.52.89] has joined #edubuntu === anestis [n=mail@athedsl-313571.home.otenet.gr] has joined #edubuntu === Castigador [n=Alfredo@88.Red-80-38-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 [n=richard@dsl-245-187-07.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd-1 is now known as RichEd === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Kalle [n=Kalle@157.230.95.91.static.ter-blg.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #Edubuntu === ontologyst [n=administ@210.81.218.130] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [04:13] I just installed a new Feisty classroom server on a Power Mac G5. However, my clients fail to connect. Any ideas how I can check what is wrong? [04:15] ppc clients ? [04:15] no, these are ltsp clients [04:16] running on diskless boxes [04:16] so intel cpus ? [04:16] they have a Realtek Agent for network boot [04:16] yes, they are intel cpu, Celeron 900Mhz [04:17] heh, the powerpc CD can only build ltsp for powerpc (it uses the packages from the CD) [04:17] the CD only has space for ine CPU architecture [04:17] I see. How about the addon CD? [04:18] so out of the box you can only server ppc clients with ppc [04:18] thats for addon edu apps [04:18] I see. Is there anyway to do it, though? [04:18] what you need to do is to build a client on an intel system like described in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall or use an edubuntu CD [04:18] I mean, connect the Intels to the PPC? [04:19] then copy the /opt/ltsp/i386 dir over to the ppc server [04:19] and the /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 dir as well [04:19] that should suffice [04:20] Ogra, thanks a lot. I'll try that. [04:20] if you have probs just come back .... [04:26] RichEd: pong [04:26] stgraber: sorry ... in a meeting ... but ping expired ... thanks :) worked past the issue (hosting site) [04:30] Ogra: in the instructions in the page above, it says: You need to set up one static interface where you will attach the thin clients, install two packages and run one command. [04:30] Configure your spare interface for the thin clients to have the IP 192.168.0.1, then follow the instructions below. [04:31] Does it mean that I need to have to network cards? [04:31] no, ignore that for the intel build anyway [04:31] all you want is the two dirs ... [04:31] they are created by the ltsp-build-client command ... dont care about the rest [04:33] Got it. I'll try it. === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === aze [n=aze@208.78.52.89] has joined #edubuntu === btwotch [n=btwotch@p549236B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu [05:27] hi, how does the authentification of the pupils work? === Kalle [n=Kalle@157.230.95.91.static.ter-blg.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #Edubuntu === Kalle [n=Kalle@157.230.95.91.static.ter-blg.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #Edubuntu === anestis [n=mail@athedsl-313571.home.otenet.gr] has left #edubuntu [] === Bambi_BOFH [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === SimonAnibal [n=sruiz@c-69-245-220-180.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === btwotch [n=btwotch@p549236B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === btwotch [n=btwotch@p549236B4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #edubuntu [] === jbrefort [n=jean@pot44-1-88-172-65-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #edubuntu === Kalle [n=Kalle@157.230.95.91.static.ter-blg.siw.siwnet.net] has joined #Edubuntu === sacater [n=sacater@ubuntu/member/colchester-lug.sacater] has joined #edubuntu === ontologyst [n=administ@210.81.218.130] has joined #edubuntu === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === bdoin [n=coudoin@home.gcompris.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu [07:49] ogra: heh, are all the Czech people going to get mad at you? [07:49] heh [07:49] i'll move it to the addon [07:49] what CD is oversized? [07:50] i386 server .... [07:50] by 1M [07:50] can we rename the CDs for gutsy? [07:50] silly but true [07:50] will a LiveCD get built for Tribe 2? [07:50] sure [07:50] its there already [07:51] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily-live/20070626.1/ [07:51] feel free to test, i didnt yet [07:51] is there any progress for the "dude, where's my apps?" bug in the Desktop CD ? [07:51] nope, not yet, i didnt have time t talk to colin yet [07:52] k [07:57] rsyncing DesktopCD === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === cliebow [n=cliebow@c-68-38-0-92.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === n2diy [n=darryl@wlk-barre-208-103-148-85.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net] has joined #edubuntu === sacater [n=sacater@ubuntu/member/colchester-lug.sacater] has joined #edubuntu === ontologist [n=administ@210.81.218.130] has joined #edubuntu === pauljw [n=paul@pool156.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:39] Situation: I have an edubuntu classroom server running on an Intel server. One of my students just installed another classroom server on a PPC machine. I would like to have all clients authenticate to one LDAP server, perhaps on the Intel machine. Also, I would like to have the clients connected to the PPC server connect to the NFS on the Intel server. [08:40] Question: What's the easiest way to go about doing this? [08:45] ontologist, you might talk to my cohort jason ingalls at jingalls aaat ellsworthschools.org..he has ldap auth all worked out for our g4 ibooks [08:47] Thanks cliebow [08:47] 8~) [08:47] i believe we just use a samba shaere to homedirs [08:50] Another question: I think the PPC server is powerfull enough for all the clients. In this case I wouldn't need the Intel server. How do I migrate ldap configuration with the user accounts and the NFS directories? [08:50] ppc server is running osx?..or ubuntu? [08:51] edubuntu [08:52] k..you can do a slapcat on your intelmachine..move that and do a slapadd on the ppc machine after slapd and ldapscrips and stuff are installed..t [08:58] what are you using for adminning that dadtabase..that could be the real problem === ludoRA [n=Ludovic@91.164.94.119] has left #Edubuntu ["A] [09:00] do you mean use slapcat to copy archive everything on the intel machine, then move the archive to the ppc to unpack it? [09:04] ogra: my goodness, the DesktopCD is doing strange things in vmware [09:05] I'm gonna restart it === rajkalyan [n=rajkalya@140-155.186-72.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [09:06] but it was cycling: start gdm, wait 10 sec before ubuntu logs in, start login, X dies or gdm, repeat [09:08] ontologist, slapcat will move your database..but you'll need the configs from your intelmachine as well.. [09:08] the intel also ran ubuntu? [09:09] yes [09:10] ogra: hmm, rebooted and still getting it. [09:10] LaserJock, known [09:10] I am going to try this in the next few minutes [09:10] (see mvo's probs in -devel) [09:13] hmm, I don't see this problem in -devel, but maybe it's earlier on === sacater [n=sacater@ubuntu/member/colchester-lug.sacater] has joined #edubuntu === rajkalyan is now known as rajkalya === rajkalya is now known as rajkalyan === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === rajkalyan is now known as rajkalyan_ === rajkalyan_ is now known as rajkalyan [10:41] yo peoples === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === rajkalyan [n=rajkalya@140-155.186-72.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu === rajkalyan [n=rajkalya@140-155.186-72.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [11:36] ogra: so will there be a new DesktopCD to test for tribe 2? [11:37] likely. I screwed up a PA merge. [11:37] if only that was the only issue ;-) === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu