[12:18] <Riddell> hunger: does that include system settings?
[12:18] <Riddell> nixternal: didn't know you were going for nixternal
[12:18] <Riddell> err, what?
[12:18] <Riddell> nixternal: didn't know you were going for MOTU
[12:21] <mhb> Riddell: have you tested gdebi-kde package yet?
[12:21] <mhb> Riddell: nixternal reported some issues, but I can't duplicate them
[12:21] <Riddell> mhb: nope
[12:22] <Riddell> will do in a sec
[01:02] <Riddell> mhb: gdebi-kde working good here
[01:03] <Riddell> mhb: I still think once it has installed it should change to a different dialogue so you know something different has happened.  And the initial progress bar should be in a dialogue too
[01:03] <Riddell> but that's details, on to restricted-manager for now I'd say
[01:09] <nixternal> Riddell: hahahaha, I am going for nixternal! it is a new level :)
[01:21] <Tm_T> humm, I think I try using arts now for a week
[01:21] <Tm_T> just like I'm trying to use two monitors
[02:14] <nixternal> mhb: it seems that issue might have been caused after the initial installation, I can't recreate it now
[05:02] <Hobbsee> oh good, looks like my kubuntu-meta update didnt break the world
[05:08] <crimsun> waiting til post-Tribe 2? ;)
[05:09] <Hobbsee> nah
[09:04] <_StefanS_> mornings
[09:05] <Hobbsee> hiya!
[09:10] <Jucato> rainy afternoons! :)
[09:13] <nixternal> anyone know asp.net?
[09:14] <nixternal> I have been racking my brain to locate via the lazyweb an answer, and alas, google couldn't find what I was looking for
[09:17] <Hobbsee> anyone got anything tribe 2 critical for kubuntu that i dont know about?
[09:17] <Hobbsee> or, anything tribe 2-worthy for kubuntu at all?
[09:18] <crimsun> not yet, but I'll try to have something tangy for Tribe 3.
[09:18] <Hobbsee> as in, anything that i need to say "delay tribe 2 kubuntu" for
[09:19] <nixternal> make it more pointy clicky for me ;p
[09:22] <Hobbsee> hehe
[09:27] <nixternal> woohoo!
[09:48] <_StefanS_> wow another useless fglrx driver release from AMD...
[09:48] <_StefanS_> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.38.6.html, it now supports RHEL5.. wow.
[09:59] <nixternal> you like my trolling there Jucato ;p
[09:59] <Jucato> hahah! don't tempt me! I've had enough of trolls for one day :P
[10:00] <nixternal> I went into a microsoft channel earlier asking about asp.net, and nobody could answer...I was like wow, microsoft users really do allow their computer to use them, and not the other way around...power users == no0bs
[10:00] <nixternal> and I got banned ;)
[10:01] <Jucato> hahah
[10:01] <nixternal> I have been banned seriously in a long time
[10:01] <nixternal> s/have/haven't
[10:03] <Jucato> I can always do it in #kubuntu if you wanted to. just tell me hehehe
[10:04] <nixternal> heck no, you mess up my rotation then :)
[10:04] <Jucato> hahah
[10:04] <nixternal> ahaha, I told admiral that network = mshome
[10:04] <_StefanS_> nixternal: what asp.net stuff do you need some help with?
[10:04] <_StefanS_> nixternal: I got a guy I can ask.
[10:05] <nixternal> I got the search working, and now I am trying to have it send a message if an index is not found on postback to warn the user
[10:05] <nixternal> so I am one step closer
[10:10] <nixternal> g'nite
[10:44] <mhb> hi _StefanS_
[10:44] <_StefanS_> mhb: hey
[10:44] <mhb> _StefanS_: it's "tomorrow" now, isn't it? :o)
[10:45] <_StefanS_> mhb: bah :D
[10:45] <mhb> _StefanS_: nah, I guess you're at work
[10:45] <_StefanS_> mhb: I know, I will look at it later on
[10:45] <mhb> _StefanS_: great
[10:45] <_StefanS_> mhb: I'm at work, at home.
[10:50] <mhb> _StefanS_: a lucky man, then
[10:52] <_StefanS_> nice I just got a new 2gb ram module by mail just now
[02:15] <ScottK> Riddell: I need to do another MIR for the S/MIME stuff.  It was pointed out to me yesterday that while the gnupg2 source package is in Main, the gpg-agent binary is still Universe.  Just FYI.  I'll let you know when I have something worth looking at.
[02:22] <Riddell> ScottK: if it's from the source package then that's not a problem
[02:23] <ScottK> Riddell: OK.  I still need to do the MIR though, right?
[02:23] <Riddell> ScottK: no
[02:23] <Riddell> MIRs are for source packages
[02:23] <ScottK> Oh.  OK.
[02:24] <ScottK> What's the process then?
[02:24] <Riddell> ScottK: yes, then file a bug and subscribe ubuntu-archvie
[02:24] <Riddell> ScottK: yes, then file a bug and subscribe ubuntu-archive
[02:25] <Hobbsee> or just make Riddell do it, as he's part of ubuntu-archive
[02:25] <ScottK> OK.  I'll wait until after Tribe 2 and then bug you about it.
[02:25] <Riddell> Hobbsee: today is my first ubuntu-archive day, but it's still handy to have the bugs to refer to
[02:25] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ahh
[02:25] <Hobbsee> Riddell: i thought you were doing that stuff before
[02:26] <Riddell> Hobbsee: only ad-hoc, today I'm scheduled to do archive stuff
[02:26] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ahhh...
[02:27] <Riddell> althuogh I've been testing CDs until now, none of which work
[02:28] <Hobbsee> was that with or without the new d-i?
[02:28] <Riddell> no idea, just from today's dailys
[02:29] <Hobbsee> pitti said that the ones there arent final, nor are the ones he's building now.
[02:29] <Hobbsee> although the ones now only have n-m fixes, so should be OK, install wise
[03:03] <oslo> hi do u have an TI ACX 111 wifi chipset, & do u sucess to use WPA ??
[03:04] <ScottK> oslo: Help is in #kubuntu.
[03:04] <oslo> sorry & thks
[03:04] <ScottK> No problem.
[04:16] <Hobbsee> oh dear.
[04:16] <nixternal> gotta love it :)
[04:16] <Jucato> holidays?
[04:16] <Hobbsee> yeah
[04:16] <Hobbsee> uni holidays
[04:16] <Jucato> moin big scary nixternal  :)
[04:16] <Jucato> ooh
[04:20] <pygi> Hobbsee, what year are you on anyway?
[04:20] <Hobbsee> pygi: 2
[04:20] <pygi> Hobbsee, right. That would make it 1 more then me :)
[04:21] <Hobbsee> heh
[04:22] <pygi> oh well :P
[04:25] <Hobbsee> Riddell: how odd.  apparently Sans Serif fonts are causing KDM memory corruption.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/47455
[04:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 47455 in kdebase "KDM detected memory corruption" [High,Confirmed] 
[05:13] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ping
[05:14] <Hobbsee> Riddell: you've marked https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/93686/ as fix committed, but appeared to have left no comment about what's actually happening.  is this now fixed?
[05:14] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 93686 in kdebase "Konqueror French in Status Bar" [Undecided,Fix committed] 
[05:17] <Riddell> hmm, I seem to remember it is, although I can't mind where the problem was just now
[05:18] <Hobbsee> Riddell: and the poke about the bug above that, too.
[05:18] <Riddell> I can't recreate it just now
[05:18] <ScottK> I remember that one.  It's definitely fixed
[05:18] <Hobbsee> OK, marked as such
[05:19] <Riddell> bug 47455 is more likely to be an X error I'd suspect
[05:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 47455 in kdebase "KDM detected memory corruption" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/47455
[05:19] <manchicken_> Fscking proprietary drivers.
[05:19] <manchicken_> Did some of the nvidia cards get moved to legacy?
[05:19] <Hobbsee> Riddell: there's talk of a solution, etc, there.  (comment 8, iirc)
[05:28] <Riddell> kwwii: do you have the URL to the cut out skyline photo you did?
[05:29] <kwwii> Riddell: http://www.sinecera.de/2007-05-01 009.ken.tif
[05:29] <Riddell> thanks
[05:29] <kwwii> np
[05:36] <Hobbsee> Riddell: can you look into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/107403 for a sanity check please?
[05:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 107403 in kdebase "fileshareset does not start the correct nfs server init script, patch provided" [Undecided,New] 
[05:37] <Hobbsee> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/35573 too
[05:37] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 35573 in kdebase "No localizations available" [Medium,Incomplete] 
[05:40] <manchicken_> linux-image-lowlatency does not seem to be compatible with nvidia drivers.
[05:41] <mhb> Riddell: thanks for removing the kubuntu package menu
[05:41] <mhb> Riddell: I forgot to thank you :o) also, thank Canonical for the bzr commit notifications in LP
[05:53] <Riddell> Hobbsee: looks sane
[05:53] <Hobbsee> Riddell: to which?
[05:54] <Riddell> Hobbsee: bug 107403 patch
[05:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 107403 in kdebase "fileshareset does not start the correct nfs server init script, patch provided" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/107403
[05:54] <Hobbsee> right
[05:55] <Riddell> Hobbsee: bug 35573 was being discussed with tonio who was going to fix it properly
[05:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 35573 in kdebase "No localizations available" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/35573
[05:55] <Riddell> not sure what happened to it
[05:55] <Hobbsee> Riddell: right
[06:11] <Hobbsee> hah!
[06:11] <Hobbsee> kdebase bugs are now at 500.
[06:12] <mhb> Hobbsee: is that a good or a bad thing? :o)
[06:12] <Hobbsee> it's a good thing.  it was higher
[06:12] <Hobbsee> feel free to take some, fix them, file them upstream, etc.
[06:12] <Riddell> yay
[06:13] <mhb> Hobbsee: it's gonna be 4.5.7 when we get the number this low again :o)
[06:14] <DaSkreech> kwwii: ping
[06:14] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:15] <Hobbsee> and please commit to bzr, so we dont upload a gazillion times.
[06:15] <Hobbsee> some people have bandwidth limits
[06:16] <pygi> Hobbsee, I've got 1GB limit believe it or not
[06:16] <Hobbsee> pygi: ouch.
[06:16] <pygi> and I spent 6GB so far
[06:16] <pygi> that's gonna cost ...
[06:16] <pygi> :P
[06:16] <pygi> cheaper to get flat rate :P
[06:16] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:17] <Hobbsee> nixternal: please go over kde bugs and kill them when you get bored.
[06:17] <Hobbsee> the number of kdebase bugs is just rediculous.  and it's below 500 now :)
[06:17] <nixternal> probably tonight
[06:17] <Hobbsee> cool :)
[06:19] <nixternal> don't know about another 100+ night though, I am tired already :)
[06:19] <nixternal> 8 week semesters will kill you
[06:23] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 41824 in kdebase "session pam_env missing in /etc/pam.d/kdm" [Medium,New] 
[06:24] <Hobbsee> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/39949
[06:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 39949 in kdebase "kdm umask" [Medium,New] 
[06:25] <Hobbsee> for any kde environment whizzes
[06:25] <nixternal> I have, for the longest time, been a pam dummy
[06:26] <nixternal> at least the reporter tells you how to fix it :)
[06:26] <nixternal> probably should go upstream, no?
[06:26] <nixternal> actually, upstream would be a 'won't fix' bug though
[06:27] <nixternal> plus I have no clue what winbind is
[06:27] <nixternal> oh, part of samba
[06:28] <ScottK> It looks like gnupg-agent and kdewalletmanager do not play well together.  If you are using agent and you have an open wallet, it doesn't even ask for the passphrase when signing on a command line.  Close your wallet and agent pings pinentry and you get a gui dialog just as one would expect.
[06:28] <ScottK> Which package do I blame?
[06:29] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 37280 in kdebase ""KDEInit could not launch XXXX"" [Medium,Confirmed] 
[06:29] <Riddell> ScottK: kdepim?
[06:30] <ScottK> The source package that has the wallet manager is kdeutils.  My question is more do I blame KDE or gnupg.  I'm inclined to KDE.
[06:32] <Riddell> ScottK: I don't see why they would interact at all really
[06:32] <ScottK> Riddell: Me neither.  That's why I was suprised.
[06:32] <ScottK> I tried to debsign a package for the first time since activating agent for S/MIME today and it initially errored out until I closed the wallet.
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: I get that alot
[06:33] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: want to try the proposed fix then?
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: mostly Kate for me since I do a lot of writing at work
[06:33] <DaSkreech> I'm not sure hos big an issue it is. My guess is timing
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Might also be that the proposed target exists already
[06:33] <DaSkreech> I'll take a closer look next time it happens (maybe in a few minutes)
[06:34] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: right.  there's a fix listed there (the moving of a .rc file), so you may want to try that
[06:34] <DaSkreech> It actually always does actually open so it's more annoying than detrimental
[06:35] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: actually this seems different from what I experience
[06:36] <DaSkreech>  they seem to have a 100 % occurence. I can't reproduce mine accurately for the life of me
[06:36] <Hobbsee> ah
[06:50] <Hobbsee> yay, down to 488
[06:50] <kwwii> DaSkreech: pong
[06:50] <DaSkreech> kwwii: You do the Bootsplash right?
[06:50] <Riddell> Hobbsee: impressive
[06:50] <kwwii> DaSkreech: yes
[06:51] <Hobbsee> Riddell: :)
[06:51] <Hobbsee> Riddell: so if you're scheduled for archive admin, that means you'll be spending less time on kubuntu?
[06:52] <DaSkreech> kwwii: I'm guessing that the bootsplash can't do fades?
[06:52] <ScottK> If someone has some time to play with gpg encryption, I'd appreciate confirmation of Bug #122342.
[06:52] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122342 in kdeutils "kdewalletmanager causes gpg signature failures with gnupg-agent/pinentry-qt" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122342
[06:53] <kwwii> DaSkreech: not sure I know what you mean
[06:53] <DaSkreech> kwwii: I had to reboot my computer :(
[06:54] <DaSkreech> anyway I was looking at it boot and i was thinking it would be nice if the messages going away at the top would fade out instead of hitting a sharp box
[06:55] <kwwii> DaSkreech: that might very well be possible but it is something that someone would have to step up and code :-)
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Ah ok so it's technically possible?
[06:56] <DaSkreech>  or you are guessing that technically it's technically possible? :)
[06:57] <kwwii> I am guessing
[06:57] <kwwii> but if you can set it a color, you certainly could change the color
[06:58] <kwwii> not sure about how the text buffer works or if there even is one
[08:33] <Cris987> hi all
[08:33] <Cris987> i have a bug here with kontact
[08:34] <Cris987> when i run it, th icon flashes a few times, an empty system tray icon appears, and then nothing happens
[08:36] <DaSkreech> Cris987: Can you run it from the command line to see if you get any errors?
[08:36] <Cris987> sure
[08:36] <Cris987> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27306/plain/
[08:37] <ScottK> The first two X errors are normal and expected in a default Kubuntu config.
[08:38] <Cris987> what about the last 3 lines?
[08:38] <Arby> Cris987: is this feisty or Gutsy?
[08:38] <Cris987> dapper...
[08:38] <Arby> oh OK
[08:39] <Arby> I can reproduce the 'call to deprecated action' messages on gutsy
[08:39] <Arby> but kontact does open in my case
[08:40] <Cris987> hmm =\
[08:40] <Cris987> i thought about uninstalling it completely and then reinstalling it
[08:40] <Arby> Cris987: if you click on the systray icon does it do anything?
[08:40] <Cris987> nope
[08:40] <Arby> hmm
[08:41] <allee> Cris987: which KDE version on dapper.  I've don't remember kontact startup problems?
[08:41] <allee> s/?/!/
[08:42] <Cris987> 3.5.2
[08:44] <ScottK> Cris987: I ran dapper with KDE 3.5.2 for some time without problems (I have dapper with kde 3.5.5 now).
[08:44] <allee> Cris987: uhm, I've never used 3.5.2 it AFAIR :)
[08:44] <Cris987> kontact worked fine b4
[08:44] <Cris987> it just started crashing like this last night
[08:44] <ScottK> allee: Dapper was originally released with 3.5.1, so if you ran it through all the iterations, you probably ran 3.5.2 at some point.
[08:45] <ScottK> Cris987: Did you install anything new?
[08:45] <DaSkreech> Did you install anything?
[08:45] <Cris987> nope
[08:45] <Cris987> the only thing i've been doing differently for the past few days
[08:45] <Cris987> i
[08:45] <Cris987> is that i've been working with multiple desktops
[08:45] <Cris987> so i mite have tried running kontact more than once
[08:45] <ScottK> Cris987: My magic remote diagnostics predict it's corrupted index files in kmail.
[08:46] <ScottK> Running kontact more than once will cause that.
[08:46] <DaSkreech> it's magik :)
[08:46] <Cris987> but kmail runs fine on its own
[08:48] <ScottK> Cris987: Make sure kmail/kontact is not running.
[08:48] <ScottK> Go to ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail and remove (copy elsehwere just in case) all of the files that have index in the name.
[08:48] <ScottK> Start kontact and see what happens (it should rengenerate the index files).
[08:50] <Cris987> same thing happens =\
[08:51] <ScottK> OK. It's been a very long time since I had this problem.
[08:52] <DaSkreech> Update to gutsy and it will work fine :)
[08:52] <ScottK> I'd suggest (just to be sure) creating a new test user.  Log in as that user, and see what happens.  If the problem happens with a fresh user, then it's not a config corruption problem.
[08:53] <Cris987> okay, brb
[09:00] <Cris987> hello
[09:00] <Cris987> i'm back
[09:00] <Cris987> i tried a new user
[09:00] <Cris987> and it worked fine for the now user
[09:00] <Cris987> kontact, i mean
[09:00] <comosicus> i whant to upload a picture in a site...under my picture is "006.jpg" and under that is "jpeg image"...but when i whant to upload her in to that site i can't do it becous is telling me that my picture is not a jpg standard.....whay?what can i do?
[09:00] <comosicus> for what is this channel?
[09:01] <comosicus> i'm off topic
[09:01] <comosicus> ?
[09:01] <ScottK> Cris987: That would tend to mean it's a config issue of some kind.
[09:01] <ScottK> comosicus: This is a development channel.  Help is in #kubuntu
[09:01] <comosicus> ohhhhhhhhhhh
[09:01] <Cris987> anyway i can reset all the config files then?
[09:01] <ScottK> Cris987: I'm not sure what.  If you need more help figuring it out, someone in #kubuntu might be better suited.
[09:02] <comosicus> yep.........whatever
[09:02] <ScottK> Cris987: All is pretty broad.
[09:02] <Cris987> hmm... okay
[09:02] <Cris987> thanks anyways
[09:02] <Cris987> i'll try asking #kubuntu then
[10:00] <manchicken_> http://www.youtube.com/v/YCod8AX2W5c
[10:01] <manchicken_> I just made that.  It's plasma balls forming inside a microwave using half a grape.
[10:01] <manchicken_> There should be a kpart for viewing videos of weird household experiments.
[10:03] <Arby> has anyone tried booting the 20070626.1 Kubuntu live CD?
[10:04] <Arby> it's just hung on me at 'Loading hardware drivers'
[10:04] <Arby> known issue?
[10:06] <Riddell> Arby: not know, although I couldn't get the .0 CD to book either
[10:06] <Arby> oh, not good
[10:06] <Arby> anything to try or just wait for respins?
[10:07] <Riddell> nothing much comes to mind
[10:07] <Riddell> Arby: i386?
[10:07] <Arby> Riddell: yep
[10:08] <Arby> I'll give it a go on different machine just for the sake of it
[10:08] <Arby> Riddell: is that likely to be a kernel bug of some type?
[10:09] <Arby> on the plus side, alternate CD seems OK so far
[10:09] <Riddell> can't imagine what really
[10:09] <Riddell> especialyl if alternate works
[10:09] <Riddell> able to try ubuntu?
[10:10] <Arby> Ubuntu has other issues (known)
[10:10] <Riddell> related?
[10:10] <Arby> nope, Ubuntu has a busted GDM or X
[10:11] <Arby> I don't even get that far
[10:11] <Riddell> right
[10:12] <fdoving> Riddell: what's the main inclusion process? - make MIR, then?
[10:12] <fdoving> s/what/how
[10:13] <pygi> write a MIR, yes
[10:13] <fdoving> tonio said he would do it, but i have not seen any progress since.
[10:14] <Riddell> fdoving: for what?
[10:15] <Riddell> fdoving: make MIR, add to queue, poke pitti, request move to main
[10:16] <fdoving> Riddell: kio-umountwrapper
[10:16] <fdoving> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuRemoveMedia that spec.
[10:16] <Riddell> oh yes, that's important
[10:17] <fdoving> i just e-mailed tonio a proposed MIR, can i forward it to you too, to have a quick look?
[10:17] <fdoving> i have never done one of those before.
[10:18] <Riddell> put it on the wiki :)
[10:18] <fdoving> ok.
[10:28] <fdoving> Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportKioUmountWrapper
[10:31] <_Sime> Riddell:  so how many jumpers will I need to bring with me on friday?
[10:33] <Riddell> hard to say, weather has been poor but seems to be improving
[10:46] <_Sime> I'm busy puming a heap of stuff over to the laptop...
[10:46] <_Sime> pumping
[11:00] <Riddell> 3
[11:06] <Tm_T> 2
[11:07] <ScottK> Are we counting something down?
[11:07] <Arby> 1
[11:07] <ScottK> Liftoff?
[11:08] <Tm_T> yeah
[11:32] <DaSkreech> nixternal: ping
[11:33] <nixternal> WHAT?
[11:33] <nixternal> ;p
[11:33] <DaSkreech> fine fine
[11:33] <nixternal> you are hijacking my connection aren't you DaSkreech ?
[11:33] <nixternal> as soon as I do ssh $home; screen -r
[11:33] <nixternal> you ping me ;p
[11:33] <DaSkreech> happy?
[11:33] <DaSkreech> You do java?
[11:33] <nixternal> no, java does me unfortunately
[11:33] <nixternal> why whats up?
[11:33] <nixternal> that didn't sound good
[11:34] <DaSkreech> I was just wondering there are sun specific stuff shipped with the language
[11:34] <DaSkreech> like Sun classes
[11:34] <nixternal> well, gcj == garbage
[11:34] <nixternal> yes, Java JDK is all Sun
[11:34] <DaSkreech> Duh I know it's from SUN
[11:34] <nixternal> heh
[11:35] <DaSkreech> but I was looking through some .net stuff
[11:35] <DaSkreech> and they have Microsoft classes
[11:35] <DaSkreech> Like Microsoft.directx.Direct3d
[11:35] <nixternal> no
[11:35] <DaSkreech> which I'm guessing may not be in Mono
[11:35] <nixternal> java and javax
[11:35] <nixternal> java.* and javax.*
[11:35] <DaSkreech> ok
[11:36] <nixternal> forgot about org.* as well
[11:36] <nixternal> http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/api/
[11:36] <nixternal> http://java.sun.com/javase/reference/api.jsp
[11:36] <nixternal> there you have references to them all
[11:37] <nixternal> DaSkreech: you need to get the ActiveX wrappers I believe for Java and C# via MSDN somewhere
[11:37] <nixternal> there is a kid here that programs ActiveX with C# and Java with a game engine he is designing...if I catch him I will get some more information, as if it is Micros* I don't know much about it anywmore
[11:45] <DaSkreech> hA HA jUCATo got a VHF award
[11:48] <nixternal> ya, I seen that
[11:48] <nixternal> for the Gear Head