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XVampireXWell I got a problem with the nvidia drivers12:16
XVampireXthey are freezing xorg12:16
semistud2354is there a way to open all ports12:16
XVampireXwhen I play games12:16
waylandbillsemistud2354: dont open all ports.12:16
GrahamAWhat card?12:16
XVampireX8800 GTX12:16
semistud2354y12:17
mark_Hey, I'm trying to help my dad get kubuntu up and on the internet. anyone have any experience getting a linksys usb11 wireless adapter running under kubuntu?12:17
GrahamAsemistud2354: If you open all ports on your router the security will become as useful as a snooze button on a smoke alarm.12:17
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GrahamAmark_: I wrote an ndiswrapper tutorial, find it on www.linuxforums.org12:17
waylandbillsemistud2354: if you aren't going to use a port, why make it open?12:17
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GrahamAXVampireX: The 8800 supports composite doesn't it?12:18
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romudogCan someone assist me in setting up Dual Monitors?12:18
semistud2354yea but im using linux12:18
XVampireXI think it does, yeah12:18
semistud2354i thought it was near impossible to hack linux12:18
XVampireXit is near impossible12:18
romudognvm12:19
XVampireXbut there are still ways :D12:19
GrahamAsemistud2354: That's... a damned stupid thing to say.12:19
waylandbillopening all the ports is like leaving the keys in your car's ignition. Probably won't get stolen, but sure does make an easy target.12:19
mark_GrahamA, He's tried the tutorial and done everything required but still no luck. He is very computer savy, but new to Linux. I've been using it for about 10 years. I used ndiswrapper on my system...12:19
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semistud2354is there a way i can check if port 22 is open12:19
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semistud2354a command in12:19
semistud2354konsol12:20
mark_GrahamA, he's also about 300 miles away -which makes it difficult!12:20
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waylandbillsemistud2354: a linux (or other) system is as secure as you want to make it. If you wan't 100% secure, don't install a network device or cable.12:21
GrahamAmark_: So you're not there to help him?12:21
semistud2354well is there a command that i can see if port 22 is open12:22
waylandbillsemistud2354: of course that discounts physical security.12:22
GrahamAwaylandbill: Reminds me of a funny joke I heard. A safe computer is a computer that's not connected to the internet, that's why I recommend BT internet!12:22
GrahamAXVampireX: I haven't forgotten you :)12:22
mark_No. BUT he did get another wireless adapter to work :-)  so he can get on the internet... He just wants to use hi Linksys one.12:23
GrahamAmark_: I wrote this stuff: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/94685-wireless-lan-linux.html#post47091512:23
GrahamATell him to use the XP drivers.12:23
XVampireXGrahamA: Yeah, trying to figure out what to do... need to install newer drivers, last time I screwed up hard, so probably a distro package would be good...12:23
GrahamAXVampireX: what game are you trying to run?12:23
XVampireXNexuiz runs but on certain levels it freezes....12:24
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mark_GrahamA, I'll tell him about that. He says he wants to get it running just for the "challenge" of it -I figure that's the "inux Way" anyway!12:24
XVampireXand trying to play an emu (pcsx) and it freezes as well at some point in the very beginning....12:24
GrahamAXVampireX: Try open arena from the ubuntu repository and see what happens, it's quake 3 based and I know my quake 3 well :)12:24
GrahamAmark_: A Linux enthusiast! I wish my dad was like that.12:25
GrahamAHe doesn't know it yet, but the computer downstairs I fucked up, I'm wiping windows off that mofo and putting kubuntu on it!12:25
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semistud2354ok...well...i have another problem...i installed virtualbox and it gave an error...i had to go into /dev/ and make this file virtualusr, or something like that, useable for anyone...but when i restart my computer i have to do it all over again...is there any way to make it stay that way12:26
GrahamAI mean, it's called tux, the hostname is tux, yet it's never had Linux on it.12:26
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waylandbillGrahamA: I'm waiting for the day my daughter's windows box croaks. It'll be getting kubuntu also. Already did the wife's :-D12:26
GrahamAXVampireX: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/12:27
XVampireXGrahamA: I heard about freezes in the driver and it shouldn't happen, my hardware is new....12:27
matthiashow can i check the video bitrate of a avi file?12:27
GrahamAXVampireX: Exactly, it's new, so it'll be buggy.12:27
GrahamAMe geforce 2 ran nexuiz fine :)12:27
XVampireXGrahamA: Why do I need that?12:27
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mark_GrahamA, Yes, I agree! He bought a TRS-80 from Radio Shack in 1978 or 1980. We were the first people in our neighborhood with a computer. It had 4k !!!!! He's super smart. He has just had it with M$ and their restrictions. He's setting up a kubuntu server.12:28
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GrahamAI want to be your brother so bad.12:28
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waylandbillHAH! Trash 80. :-)12:28
GrahamAwaylandbill: I want to convert the entire house, though I think last will be the windows domain server. I converted my friend to Kubuntu. He likes it alot, I showed him beryl, he likes it though he doesn't use it.12:29
matthiashi how can i check the bitrate of a avi file?12:29
GrahamAXVampireX: You need to make a script to do... whatever it is you want on starup12:29
GrahamAstartup12:29
GrahamA*12:29
XVampireXI didn't ask for that...12:29
mark_Got to go. Thanks for the help.12:29
GrahamAmark_: Later mate12:30
GrahamAOh bollocks! semistud2354: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/12:30
semistud2354theres this consol command this guy found out to get the reboot and shutdown buttions back12:31
semistud2354when you have beryl installed they go away12:32
semistud2354it maks a link to the application12:32
GrahamAsemistud2354: Because you need to give the session permission to shutdown.12:32
semistud2354do i put the commands in autostart12:32
GrahamARead the beryl guide.12:32
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semistud2354or so i go ahead and make the links12:32
GrahamAYou taty...12:32
semistud2354and chmmd them12:32
theotick!teamspeak12:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about teamspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:33
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matthiastheotick: what is your problem12:34
matthiastheotick: maybe i can help12:34
rathelI'm trying to make a script here, but I don't know how, lol I want to go through a directory and subdirectories deleting all .txt files.12:35
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GrahamA!factoids12:36
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:36
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dthackersemistud2354: how's mom? ;)12:38
semistud2354lol12:38
GrahamA!teamspeak is a Voice Over IP program mostly used by gamers.12:38
semistud2354pissed12:39
semistud2354lol12:39
GrahamA!skype12:39
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto12:39
semistud2354im trying to figure out something else12:39
GrahamA!botgrub12:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botgrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:39
dthackerhehe, ok12:39
semistud2354theres this consol command this guy found out to get the reboot and shutdown buttions back12:39
GrahamA!botfood12:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botfood - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:39
semistud2354when you have beryl installed they go away12:39
GrahamA!botsnack12:39
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!12:39
semistud2354it maks a link to the application12:40
semistud2354but when i restart they go away12:40
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GrahamAsemistud2354: Nvidia?12:40
semistud2354ati12:41
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semistud2354it works...but the links go away when i restart12:42
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semistud2354any way to make them perminent12:42
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semistud2354???12:44
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romudoghelp!!!!12:46
romudogI seemed to have messed up my xorg during dual monitor install12:46
romudogCan someone help me12:47
romudogI seemed to have messed up my xorg during dual monitor install12:47
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romudogAnyone??12:49
romudogplz?12:50
blizzzekI comiled the kate plugin katephpbrowser, but now i am wondering how to get it into kate.. it is not listed in the extensions in the settings :-/ anyone a hint for me?12:50
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romudogwtf is no one on?12:52
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ActionParsnipblizzzek: kate & in a konsole12:52
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blizzzekromudog: tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?12:53
romudogno i havent Should i?12:53
GrahamAromudog: See if there's a backup.12:53
ActionParsnipromudog: if you restore the original xorg.conf you backed up before you started playing you should be okk12:53
ActionParsnipromudog: always backup your good xorg.conf before playing12:53
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rodrigo_hi12:54
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romudogActionParsnip i wasnt playing i didnt edit the xorg conf file only setup dual monitors in system settings12:54
ActionParsniphi rodrigo_12:54
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blizzzekActionParsnip: thx12:55
ActionParsnipblizzzek: no worries12:55
blizzzekjust have to find out what the exec is ... :D12:55
ActionParsnipromudog: try what blizzzek said12:55
rodrigo_Actionparsnip: how do I install the orthographic corrector in LInux?12:56
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ActionParsniprodrigo_: not sure never used one really12:58
ActionParsniprodrigo_: lemme google12:59
rodrigo_ok12:59
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rodrigo_Actionparsnip: ok thanks12:59
ActionParsniprodrigo_: you using konversation? as there is an auto spell check in there (if thats what you are after)12:59
rodrigo_nope12:59
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rodrigo_Actionparsnip: Im looking to check the ortography with openoffice like in microsoft world01:00
rodrigo_particualry in spanish01:00
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ActionParsniprodrigo_: Orthographic projection is a means of representing a three-dimensional object in two dimensions. It uses multiple views of the object, from points of view rotated about the object's center through increments of 90 degrees. Equivalently, the views may be considered to be obtained by rotating the object about its center through increments of 90 degrees.01:03
romudoghi01:03
romudogim bk01:03
ActionParsniprodrigo_: you sure thats what you need?01:03
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ADiCT3di got the monitor all done but now can someone help me setup dual monitors the right way?01:04
rodrigo_Actionparsnip: lol, not01:04
rodrigo_Actionparsnip: I need something to check out the spelling, the ortography, if the worlds are correct01:04
rodrigo_ActionParsnip: when I write something in openoffice01:05
ActionParsniprodrigo_: # a method of representing the sounds of a language by written or printed symbols01:05
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rodrigo_ActionParsnip: something like that01:07
ADiCT3dCan someone help me setyup dual monitors?01:07
ActionParsniprodrigo_: not come across it myself but sounds really interesting01:08
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ramirezke pedo vamos opr unas morras01:09
ramirezando en busca de una seorita que le guste ser montada como a un pony01:10
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nosrednaekim!es ramirez01:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about es ramirez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:10
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ramirezhahaha01:11
nosrednaekim!es | ramirez01:11
uboturamirez: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:11
ubuntuhello01:11
ramirezaa excelente!01:11
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ramirez #ubuntu-mx01:11
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kalimadI have a problem while booting into grub01:12
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kalimadit says Grub loading stage1.5. and it stops there01:12
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nosrednaekimkalimad: hmm.01:12
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nosrednaekimwhere are you now?01:13
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kalimadubuntu from livecd01:14
romudogok guys plz help me b 4 i go nutz i cant get dual minotors workin01:14
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romudogHELP!!!!!01:16
kalimadme first lol01:17
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romudogman i got bigger problems except mine should be simple to solve.01:17
kalimadwell, you can at least get into ubuntu01:18
romudognot rlly01:18
romudog:|01:18
kalimadhave you tried at #ubuntu_01:19
kalimadi mean #ubuntu01:19
nosrednaekimkalimad: ok, you are going to have to chroot what drive partition is ubutnu installed on?01:20
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kalimadnosrednaekim:01:21
kalimad /dev/hdc3            6206        6856     5229157+  83  Linu01:21
kalimadthis one_01:21
kalimad?01:21
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nosrednaekimkalimad: yeah.01:22
bathHey, I'm trying to install musictracker-0.4.1 for pidgin.  I also installed the latest version of GLib.  musictracker-0.4.1 won't compile; it says that I don't have GLib.  I have no idea what to do about this  problem.01:22
nosrednaekimok mount that partition01:22
ubuntu_hola01:22
kalimadubuntu@ubuntu:~$ chroot /dev/hdc301:22
kalimadchroot: cannot change root directory to /dev/hdc3: Not a directory01:22
kalimadubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount /dev/hdc301:22
kalimadmount: can't find /dev/hdc3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:22
ubuntu_alguien abla espaol?01:22
nosrednaekim!es | ubuntu_01:22
ubotuubuntu_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:22
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nosrednaekimkalimad: sorry "sudo mount /dev/hdc3 /mnt"01:23
Clashbye01:23
kalimadnosrednaekim: and then what?01:24
nosrednaekimkalimad: "sudo chroot /mnt" do not close that terminal01:24
Valkari have a quick question here, is there any way for me to have access to my hardrives if i booted ubuntu from a cd?01:24
kalimaddone01:24
bathHey, I'm trying to install musictracker-0.4.1 for pidgin.  I also installed the latest version of GLib.  musictracker-0.4.1 won't compile; it says that I don't have GLib.  I have no idea what to do about this  problem.01:25
nosrednaekimkalimad: ok, now which hard drive do you have it set to boot off of in the BIOS?01:25
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BluesKaj!patience | bath01:25
ubotubath: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:25
kalimadi have only one hard drive01:25
romudogBluesKaj:Hi You just get on?01:25
Lunar_LampIs there a good application for drawing flow charts etc?01:25
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nosrednaekimkalimad: then why is it called hdc?01:26
BluesKajwas having dinner etc01:26
nosrednaekimdo you have two optical drives?01:26
romudogBluesKaj: Can you assist me in setting up Dual Monitors?01:26
nosrednaekimLunar_Lamp: Inkscape.01:26
kalimadnosrednaekim: I have one optical drive and one hard drive01:26
kalimadand thats it01:26
nosrednaekimkalimad: well ok...01:26
romudognosrednaekim: HEY!!!01:27
Lunar_Lampnosrednaekim, thanks :-)01:27
nosrednaekimnow that you are in your chroot... does it look like your linux installation?01:27
BluesKajno expreience with dual monitors romudog :(01:27
nosrednaekimlong time no see romudog01:27
nosrednaekimme neither01:27
romudognosrednaekim: can you help me? :P01:27
romudogor no xp either?01:27
nosrednaekimkalimad: do " grub-install /dev/hdc"01:27
nosrednaekimsudo that rather01:28
kalimadroot@ubuntu:/# sudo grub-install /dev/hdc01:28
kalimad/dev/hdc: Not found or not a block device.01:28
nosrednaekimdo a ls /dev/hd*01:28
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romudogCan someone help me setup dual monitors? Every time i do it it crashed to a console01:29
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nosrednaekimkalimad: what device names do you see?01:29
opensource_someone know a good mailserver for kubuntu festy?01:30
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kalimadnosrednaekim: umm, none01:30
kalimadroot@ubuntu:/# sudo grub-install /dev/hdc01:30
kalimad/dev/hdc: Not found or not a block device.01:30
kalimaduh wrong paste01:30
kalimadroot@ubuntu:/# ls /dev/hd*01:30
kalimadls: /dev/hd*: No such file or directory01:30
nosrednaekimkalimad: ls /dev | grep hd01:31
nosrednaekimrun that01:31
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kalimadnosrednaekim: nothing01:32
Chousukekalimad probably has a sata drive.01:32
Chousukethey are sd*01:32
kalimadChousuke: no, its IDE01:32
MegloI was wondering, how do I parition my active system partition so I can back up my /home on some free space?01:32
Chousukekalimad: then something is wrong :P01:32
nosrednaekimMeglo: you can't do it while its actuve01:32
kalimadnosrednaekim: It seems that drives have dissapeared01:32
nosrednaekimkalimad: indeed01:32
kalimadwhen I try to run fdisk -l01:32
Meglonosrednaekim well, how would I go about it then? The whole disk is one big partition...01:32
kalimadit says cannot open /proc/partitions01:33
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nosrednaekimMeglo: boot a livecd and partition from there01:33
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niobeXXXXXhola kubunteros01:33
niobeXXXXXbuenos dias01:33
kalimadniobeXXXXX: #ubuntu-es01:33
niobeXXXXXalguno sabe un buen ide de desarrollo01:33
nosrednaekimkalimad: what exactly do you see when you run "ls"01:33
MegloWhat software does kubuntu live CD have that can partition disks?01:33
nosrednaekimmaybe you have the wrong partition01:33
nosrednaekimMeglo: qtparted01:33
Meglothanks :D01:34
niobeXXXXXqtparted01:34
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kalimadwhen I do a ls in dev I see everything but drives01:34
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kalimadand in qtparted I can see the drives01:35
nosrednaekimkalimad: so you can see /dev and everything?01:35
kalimadyes01:35
kalimadbut thez do not exist in /dev01:36
nosrednaekimkalimad: did you just do a update or something?01:36
kalimadthey01:36
kalimadumm nope01:36
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kalimadwell, ill try to reboot then come back here01:36
kalimadbrb01:37
niobeXXXXXwhat id programins in the newbies01:37
romudogcan ANYONE assist me for dual monisors, it keeps crashing to terminal01:38
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romudogMonitors*01:39
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BluesKajromudog, do you have the monitor linux drivers installed or are just using plugplay defaults?01:40
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romudogthey  are generic but i set the right values01:40
dick-richardsonHow do you enable compiz?01:40
romudog!compiz01:41
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:41
dick-richardsonromudog: thank you!01:41
BluesKajwell romudog , I think the right linux drivers might help X from crashing01:42
romudogThere are no drivers for the monitors.01:42
BluesKajprevent01:42
dick-richardsonthose directions are a year old...you still need to jump through all those hoops?01:42
romudogI have the Nvidia driver for my card installed though01:42
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BluesKajyes romudog that's good,  but in my experience having the right linux monitor drivers makes a reral difference in res options and stability...most monitors have linux drivers available ...search in :  http://www.google.com/linux, to find them...I'm quite sure they exist01:45
gruberrornosrednaekim: now the drives magically reappeared :)01:46
romudogtbh i just want this to work with dual monitors..01:46
romudogI kinda miss my windows safeness01:46
gruberrorhave magically*01:46
gruberror:)01:46
nosrednaekimyou in the livecd?01:46
gruberrornosrednaekim: yes01:47
romudogbut i liike linux more becuse of its better suited for me..01:47
Tm_TBluesKaj: hum you're not in #kubuntu-offtopic I notice01:47
BluesKajwell, it takes some work but it's worth the search , romudog01:47
gruberrornosrednaekim: now let's go from the beginning again :)01:47
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gruberrormount /dev/hdc1 /mnt ?01:47
nosrednaekimgruberror: are you in the chroot?01:47
BluesKajTm_T, no should i be ?  :)01:48
Tm_Tnot should, but could :)01:48
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ubuntualright01:48
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ubuntu>_<01:49
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gruberrornosrednaekim: do I need to mount the drive first?01:49
gruberrorto get to chroot?01:49
Tm_TBluesKaj: I plugged second monitor in, quite simple01:49
nosrednaekimgruberror: yeah01:49
gruberrorbut what drive01:49
nosrednaekimgruberror: remember how to do that?01:49
gruberrorsudo mount /dev/hdc3 ?01:49
jlundI just installed Kubuntu on my Macbook and I'm very pleased. Is anyone aware of any issues that should make me wary of installing the 3.5.7 update?01:50
nosrednaekimgruberror: I guess..01:50
nosrednaekimthats what you did b401:50
gruberrorubuntu@ubuntu:/dev$ sudo mount /dev/hdc301:50
gruberrormount: can't find /dev/hdc3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:50
gruberrorah I forgot the /mnt part :)01:50
blizzzekstillt have the problem, that i have compiled and installed kate plugin "katephpbrwoser" surccesfully, but do not know how to get it into kate. it is not listed in settings->extensions01:51
blizzzekany idea?01:51
nosrednaekimgruberror: did it work?01:52
gruberrornosrednaekim: now I'm in chroot, and the drives in /dev are gone again :/01:52
nosrednaekimgruberror: eh...01:52
Meglosorry to bother you guys, but qtparted wont let me resize or configure any partitions, all the options are blanked out. They aren't mounted either01:53
nosrednaekimMeglo: you in the livecd?01:53
Megloyes01:53
nosrednaekimdid you start it as root?01:53
MegloOh01:53
Meglosudo qtparted?01:53
nosrednaekimie "kdesu qtparted"01:53
nosrednaekimgruberror: somethings wrong with your system..... back up any data you have on there.01:54
gruberrornosrednaekim: when I exit chroot, and do ls in dev i can see the drives01:54
gruberrorbut not in chroot :/01:54
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arriespaora wervo01:55
nosrednaekimyeah... somethings messed up with your installation01:55
jlundAre there any disadvantages to upgrading to the 3.5.7 packages?01:55
nosrednaekimjlund: not really01:55
nosrednaekim3.5.6 is pretty stable01:55
gruberrornosrednaekim: I reinstalled like 3 times :/01:55
nosrednaekimgruberror: how long did this latest install last?01:55
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nosrednaekim!grub01:56
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:56
gruberrornosrednaekim: like, 30-40 minutes01:56
nosrednaekimgruberror: oh.... so today is the first time you've tried installing01:56
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gruberrornosrednaekim: yes :)01:57
nosrednaekimgruberror: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows01:57
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gruberrornosrednaekim: I don't want to reinstall windows01:57
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Meglohmmm, qtparted failed to open device, error: file system has an incompatible feature enabled "QWidget::setMinimumSize: The smallest allowed size it (0,0)"01:58
Meglothat shows up in konsole01:58
nosrednaekimgruberror: no.. there is a tutorial later on on how to restore your grub without a chroot01:58
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gruberrornosrednaekim: ah, ok, thnx01:58
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Meglothats after doing kdesu qtparted02:00
jlundWill security issues (if any) be covered in the 3.5.7 packages?02:00
nosrednaekimMeglo: but does it work?02:00
Meglono02:00
nosrednaekimwhat command did you run, exactly02:01
Meglokdesu qtparted02:01
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Meglox related errors occur but I think thats unrelated02:01
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nosrednaekimMeglo: yeah.02:02
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MegloI can work with my other disks just fine apparently, but I'm not going to test it as i want to leave them alone02:02
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nosrednaekimMeglo: right.... did you just do defualt  formatting?02:02
MegloIts been a while but I did the default full disk format02:03
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MegloI did use qtparted to set it as an "unactive" partition02:03
romudognosrednaekim: Hi bro guess what ive totally screwed up everything :) this is lame anyway when you get a chance to help me fix all this crap eg the non starting kde login thing and all and the part where i dont have the shutdown option..i would really appreciate it.02:03
Meglo:<02:04
nosrednaekimMeglo: when?02:04
nosrednaekimromudog: congrats..02:04
Megloat the beginning of this livecd session02:04
dick-richardsonanyone else have the kicker not come up when its auto-hidden?02:04
XVampireXDoes anyone know if it's possible to watch videos higher in resolution than the monitor itself is capable of?02:04
dick-richardsonalt-f1 will bring it up02:04
romudognosrednaekim: Yeah this is really pissing me off i wish i could just reset default values of EVERYTHING and keep all my apps and current setup tho02:05
nosrednaekimromudog: hmm well you probably messed around iwth it a bit too much02:05
romudognosrednaekim: naw its just effed i didnt do much i restored my backup xorg02:05
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Meglopeople tell me that PartitionMagic really sucks but I don't know anymore02:06
Meglo:/02:06
MegloShould I try another app?02:07
nosrednaekimcfdisk. although that'll probably tell you the same thing (which I don't understant)02:07
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blizzzekgrml02:12
Meglonosrednaekim: heh, GParted workd :P02:12
nosrednaekimcool.02:12
romudognosrednaekim: Okay..I've made up my mind any chance you can help me to setup a new install of kubuntu and explain to me how to use a tool like DD to just restore everything? lmfao02:14
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Meglonosrednaekim: thanks for the help tho, it appreciate it. :)02:15
romudognosrednaekim: i think that would be faster than getting pissed and then trying to fix it :P02:15
nosrednaekimMeglo: NP02:15
nosrednaekimromudog: dd ain't gonna help you02:15
nosrednaekimromudog: only a reinstall will.(pretty much)02:15
romudognosrednaekim:cant it sync drives and restore?02:15
nosrednaekimit can't restore what you've messed up.02:16
SayersPricey: hi02:16
blizzzek..... cannot get a kate plugin workin02:16
romudognosrednaekim: no me reinstalling Kubuntu dd'ing the drive over to my spare drive and being able to sync after i make changes so its to my liking then if i fuck it up i can restore my main drive from the other?02:17
nosrednaekimyeah I guess that would work... keep a separate /home though02:17
romudognosrednaekim: What do you mean? I have a 350gb drive i usually keep my stuff on02:18
nosrednaekimoh ok...02:18
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romudognosrednaekim: Does dd let me sync though?02:18
nosrednaekimromudog: no I don't think so..but rsync does02:19
scott_does anyone know how to quick email a file online (or picture)?02:19
nosrednaekim!pastebin02:19
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:19
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dick-richardsoncan you enable desktop effects in kubuntu?02:24
nosrednaekimdick-richardson: no with a simple click no..02:24
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nosrednaekimdick-richardson: which desktop effects do you have?02:24
nosrednaekimcompiz or beryl?02:24
dick-richardsonnone...just moved to kubuntu from ubuntu...had been using the stock compiz02:25
nosrednaekimdick-richardson: ah ok... run "compiz --replace"02:25
dick-richardsoni lost my titlebar02:25
nosrednaekimwait a little while..02:25
nosrednaekimlike a half a minute02:25
dick-richardsonkk02:25
nosrednaekimstart up a new program and see if that brings it back/02:26
nosrednaekim(on the new window02:26
dick-richardsonnot yet02:27
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nosrednaekimdick-richardson: press alt+f2 and then "kwin --replace"02:27
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dick-richardsonyep, i'm back...no compiz02:27
nosrednaekimok.. good02:28
nosrednaekim(that you're bacl)02:28
nosrednaekimyou need beryl....02:28
dick-richardsoni installed compiz-core..was there more I should have?02:28
nosrednaekimdick-richardson: was it working on gnome?02:28
dick-richardsonyeah02:28
nosrednaekimare you using XGL?02:28
dick-richardsonno, i believe aiglx02:29
nosrednaekimor do you have an nvidia or Intel.02:29
nosrednaekimok...02:29
nosrednaekimwell you see, beryl is better for KDE.02:29
nosrednaekimcompiz os more like gnome02:29
nosrednaekim*is02:29
dick-richardsonI can do that02:29
nosrednaekimjust go get beryl and emerald.02:29
dick-richardsonI enjoyed the beryl-manager better, anyway02:29
nosrednaekimand beryl-manager02:29
nosrednaekimyeah... beryl manager is cool02:30
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scott_do you know how to email a picture quickly?02:31
nosrednaekimscott_: attach it.02:31
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scott_<nosrednaekim> i have a right click button on firefox that sends images, but it says 'javascript: return false'02:33
lmerovingiosomebody can help me with apache2 and php02:33
lmerovingioI try to install it but when I try to open a test,php appears the dialog to download it or open02:33
lmerovingiowhat could be?02:33
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cantakeroushi02:35
cantakeroushow do I remove a package?02:35
cantakerousin command line?02:35
cantakeroussudo apt-get remove foo?02:35
scott_sudo apt-get remove02:35
nosrednaekimcantakerous: yep02:36
nosrednaekimeasy eh?02:36
cantakerouswait is there a way to make Firefox NOT use kaffeine-mozilla plugin?02:36
cantakerousI can't watch Apple trailers02:37
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cantakerous:'-(02:37
cantakerousI might change to m$$$ XP02:37
nosrednaekimohhh... now there is a threat02:37
nosrednaekim;)02:37
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nosrednaekimcantakerous: I'm sure you can... look around in the firefox settings.02:38
cantakerousis that what you want?02:38
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nosrednaekimor uninstall kaffeine-mozzila02:38
dick-richardsonwith the state of the linux community, threatening xandros might be worse02:38
nosrednaekimcantakerous: of course not02:38
scott_you can set the file hanling prefrences in your firefox prefrences menu02:38
nosrednaekimhaha02:38
HomerOShi guys02:38
ActionParsniphi all02:38
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nosrednaekimor suse02:38
nosrednaekimhey02:38
lmerovingiohello, what can I do with my apache202:39
cantakerousnothing02:39
cantakerousnow why doesn't apple trailers work with Xine and it works with mplayer?02:39
HomerOSsome knows something about open SUSE?02:39
HomerOSsomeone knows something about open SUSE?02:39
dick-richardsonI know they made a deal w/the devil02:40
dick-richardson;)02:40
cantakerousHomerOS: I am someone that knows about $u$e02:40
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cantakerousHomerOS: $u$e sold out to M$$$oft XP02:40
papo_hello, I have no sound since I upgrade kubuntu. It is an ibook. Any idea?02:41
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cantakerouspapo_: alsamixer?02:41
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cantakerouspapo_: type on a term alsamixer and unmute everything02:41
dick-richardsonwhere do you adjust plugin options in beryl?02:42
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romudoghey nosrednaekim:You there?02:43
papo_it is all unmuted02:43
papo_no sound02:43
romudogWheres the auto=mount file?02:44
lmerovingiohi again, I install apache2-php5-mysql-server-4.1 but php doesnt work, when I try to open a php appears the dialog to download it or open02:44
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lmerovingiowhat can I do?02:44
cantakerouspapo_: then I don't know02:45
cantakerouspapo_: I've just solve a few stuff regarding sound02:45
nosrednaekimromudog: not really02:45
romudognosrednaekim:i booted and its like EVERYTHING was back to normal...weird :P02:46
HomerOSwhat do i need to run beryl?02:46
papo_thanks anyway02:47
nosrednaekimromudog: cool02:48
nosrednaekimthats always nice02:48
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HomerOSalguno en castellano?02:48
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papo_si yo pero soy un gaan en linux02:50
lider_SALUDOS A TODOS DE VENEZUELA  )02:50
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Tm_Tlider_: uh oh, hi02:51
papo_hola lider_02:51
lider_HOLA MEN02:51
lider_que cuentas02:51
Tm_T!es | lider_02:51
ubotulider_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:51
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papo_muy bien gracias02:52
Tm_Tenglish here thank you02:52
lider_ok  sorry02:52
lider_lol02:52
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navets_I am using beryl and I want to take a screenshot while spinning my cube02:59
navets_how can I do this02:59
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draikI'm running KDE, GNOME and SFCE03:00
draik*XFCE03:00
draikHow do I make KDE my default?03:00
blizzznavets_:  i think you should have a look at a screenkast/desktop recording software, but i did not try it out03:00
navets_blizzz: k thx03:01
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blizzznp03:01
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Tm_Tdraik: doesn't it save your last selection? or ask if you like to make it to your default03:02
draikTm_T: It does, but if I have to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, I get GNOME03:03
draikI don't get UBUNTU, it takes me to EDUBUNTU03:03
Tm_Tinteresting03:03
draikYup03:03
draikThis has happened since the upgrade from Edgy to Feisty03:04
draikI can't even get Beryl03:04
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Lunar_Lamp!acrobat03:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:08
Lunar_Lamp!reader03:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about reader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:08
Lunar_Lamp!pdf03:08
ubotupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)03:08
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thedudeif I change the name of my user folder to thedude2, will that change all of my info to thedude2, or simply bork my user dir?03:12
Minatakuxpdf is the best one03:12
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shadowhywindhay all, having a werid problem, every cd i put in, it will play the first 6 seconds, freeze for a second, and then play the next 6 seconds and freeze again... any ideas?03:13
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SayersAre there any decent multi track studio's?03:16
Sayersand for some reason Audacity cant detect my speakers03:16
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waltercoolhi there03:16
waltercooli have a problem installing a linux distro and now i see gitches in grub window and not start... what can i do?03:17
Sayersdoubt it is a bug03:17
Sayersprobably a reacent change you did03:17
MinatakuUh03:17
MinatakuSayers: Never assume03:18
MinatakuEspecially assume something completely unfounded03:18
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Sayerstrue03:18
nzkWhat is the modifier to make APT shut up and do what i say rather than questioning me?03:18
MinatakuChances are it may not have installed correctly03:19
Minatakunzk: Ask it03:19
MinatakuOr read the manual page03:19
MinatakuOr run it's command line with " < yes" at the end03:19
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Tm_Tnzk: apt-get --help ;)03:20
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MinatakuSayers: Sorry to snap at you like that03:21
MinatakuA bit pissed right now03:21
nzkWhat should I add to my update script for Ubuntu? http://slexy.org/paste/325603:21
nzkCan I alias those commands as ShutUpAndUpdate?03:22
Sayers!studio03:23
ubotuubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.03:23
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tucciI'm having a dependency problem - I need lipxpcom.so and I can't find it anywhere. Any help?03:25
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draikWhat does my nVidia video card need to play OpenGL screensavers?03:29
draikWhat package?03:30
lmerovingiohello, I have turion64 with kubuntu 7.04, when I install a apache,mysql,php5, and try to open test,php but appear a dialog to dowload the file or open it03:31
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lmerovingiowhen I try to hear a mp3 file with amarok it doesn't work03:35
Fr0de!mp303:35
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:35
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lmerovingiomp3 isnt free?03:42
jairoI can't do this webcam work under kubuntu feisty: Bus 004 Device 003: ID 0ac8:305b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.03:42
Minatakulmerovingio: Patent encumberance issues03:43
jairoI've been trying everything in the last two weeks...03:43
MinatakuIf it's not supported, it's not supported03:44
jairogspca modules, gspca source, the tarball from the site...03:44
jairoAny help?03:45
lmerovingioI didn't knew it03:46
Minatakulmerovingio: It's not too well known03:46
MinatakuThat said, I use it anyway03:46
Fr0dejairo: I think my webcam at home is a Z-Star.. must be a different model, as mine works fine03:46
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jairoFr0de: I googled a lot and it looks like this webcam works fine. The module gspca is loaded, but there is no "camera type jpeg".03:48
Fr0dejairo: what programs have you tried to use the cam with?03:48
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jairokopete.03:49
tom_I lost adept with an update any ideals how to get it back I am running gusty03:49
Fr0dejairo: do you get anything in the Devices section in settings?03:50
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tom_no it is a program like apt get03:50
lmerovingioappear to be working now but I dont hear anything03:51
Fr0detom_: sudo apt-get install adept03:52
jairoFr0de: in USB Devices -> UHCI Host Controller - PC Camera03:52
tom_ok03:52
lmerovingiominataku -  appear to be working now but I dont hear anything03:52
Minatakulmerovingio: Settings all correct?03:54
tom_now I got and error where can I paste it03:54
MinatakuAudio, that is03:54
MinatakuLike the volume and crap?03:55
Fr0detom_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/03:55
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lmerovingiominataku: seems to be ok03:57
maximeI have fatality error with kubuntu03:57
maximeerror: could not find trash03:58
tom_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27207/03:58
maximehelp me please03:58
MinatakuWeird03:58
maximeyes03:58
maximeplease help me03:59
maximeI don't delete any files03:59
Fr0detom_: did you do as the error suggested?03:59
maximecreate a new folder to /home/maxime/...04:00
tom_yes04:00
lmerovingiook, i dont wanna kill linux yet, another task, I installed beryl, but when I exec it the screen turns white and nothing happend04:00
maximea ok04:00
maximehelp me please!!!04:00
lmerovingioI have a nvidia 615004:01
maximewat?04:02
maximethx for help :@04:04
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tom_do you think I am going to have to reformat04:05
Fr0detom_: hmm.. seeing as you're running a beta release, that might not be a bad idea. keep your /home partition, though! :)04:06
tom_how can I do that04:06
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tom_in the advance part of the install04:07
bryanCannot relogin after after screensaver locks screen04:07
Fr0detom_: depends if you partitioned the hdd with a separated /home partition.. :P04:07
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tom_I just installed with the cd download use entire hd04:08
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Fr0detom_: then you don't have a separate /home part by default..04:10
bryanany one?04:10
tom_no dont think so04:10
bryanCannot relogin after after screensaver locks screen.04:11
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Fr0detom_: then when you reinstall, make a separate partition for your /home :)04:11
Fr0debryan: caps lock?04:11
tom_can I do that now04:11
devnull!search deluge04:12
ubotuFound: deluge really, deluge04:12
devnull!deluge04:12
ubotudeluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.04:12
bryanFrode-no04:12
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bryanFrode- y04:13
Fr0detom_: backup any stuff you want to keep onto some other media, then when you reinstall, do manual partition editing and allocate a separate partition for your /home04:13
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tom_ok that be it then04:13
Fr0debryan: no and yes?04:13
tom_thank you very much04:14
Fr0detom_: that's ok - good luck - read about partitioning before you jump in04:14
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krockerafter I do a reinstall, how do I restore my users from my old /home dir?04:14
bryanFrode-No04:14
Fr0detom_: google should be your friend there..04:14
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Fr0debryan: reset your password from a terminal (Ctrl-Alt-F1), see if that helps04:15
bryanFrode- maybe I stated my issue wrong.  I have my pictures to works in slide mode to use as a screen saver but after I try to go back It will not do anything just stay on the picture if froze on.04:17
devnulllibboost = what in *ubuntu04:18
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Fr0debryan: do you get a password prompt?04:18
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bryanFrode-No04:20
bryanFrode-Just freez on picture04:20
krockeris there any easy user migration tools out there?04:21
Fr0dedevnull: aptitude search libboost04:21
Fr0debryan: what if you try typing something?04:21
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bryanFrode- only mouse will show on picture but nothing allow to stop screen saver04:22
draik!OpenGL04:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:23
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draikFor all of you running Feisty with an nVidia card... How do you get OpenGL to work?04:24
Fr0debryan: what screensaver? one bundled with *ubuntu or a third-party one?04:24
Minataku!nv | draik04:24
ubotudraik: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:24
draikThank you Minataku04:25
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Search4Lancererm... my USB drive apparently disconnected and reconnected.. or something.. while I was gone, and now it's showing as a "locked folder" == I can't access it, which is throwing off Amarok, as that's where my music is... anything I can do without rebooting04:25
bryanFrode- the one option that allows you to use own pictures as a slide show screen saver04:25
Minatakudraik: np04:25
Search4Lancerbryan: what's your problem with it? works fine for me04:26
Fr0debryan: try using one or two pictures (from the bundled ones), just to see if it is an issue with your picture set, somehow04:27
bryanSearch4lancer-keeps freezing ona picture and then I can get out of it. It just show the arrow on picture04:27
Fr0deSearch4Lancer: unmount it from terminal04:27
bryanFrode- OK04:28
Fr0debryan: are you ok to get back in by killing the screensaver from a term?04:28
bryanFrode - no I have to shut down manual04:29
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Fr0debryan: just Ctrl-Alt-F1, log in in the prompt, then find the process (using 'nice top' to see the running procs) then kill the screensaver off.. :)04:30
krockerso do I just cp the old passwd file to get my old users back?04:31
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Fr0dekrocker: you'd need to check the user id numbers - make sure they are the same04:31
krockerI haven't recreated the old accounts yet, except for mine04:32
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krockerhow do I check the uid's?04:32
Fr0dekrocker: and remember your /etc/group and /etc/shadow files, too04:32
rustalotmy screen resolution is really messed up04:32
bryanFrode- I can't do anything besides moving mouse04:32
SchuenemannMinataku, I can't get my card to work even with that tutoria04:32
Fr0dekrocker: compare them in the passwd files compared to files in their home folders04:32
bryanIFrode I used another screen saver and it works ok04:33
rustalotit's showing at 640 x 480 when it should be 1280 x 102404:33
Fr0debryan: ctrl-alt-F1 or F2 or F3 don't work?04:33
MinatakuSchuenemann: ATI card?04:33
Minataku!resolution | rustalot04:33
uboturustalot: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:33
bryanFrode- correct04:33
SchuenemannMinataku, nope, an old nvidia geforce 32 MB04:33
MinatakuSchuenemann: Hrm04:33
SchuenemannI was able to configure in edgy, but not in feisty04:33
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MinatakuWeird04:34
MinatakuYou probably want the free driver04:34
Schuenemannthe wiki has no specific section for kubuntu feisty, only ubuntu04:34
MinatakuOr the nvidia-legacy one04:34
Search4LancerFr0de: umount: NEW VOLUME is not mounted (according to mtab)    shall I start fiddling around with mtab and ftab now?04:34
MinatakuSchuenemann: The core is the same04:34
Fr0debryan: that's odd.. I guess you'll have to do it the hard way.. oh, does ctrl-alt-backspace kill the x server?04:34
bryanFrode- It seem if it goes to the end of the pictures it freezes like it wants to start over the slide show04:35
Schuenemannbut the process for ubuntu uses it's GUI or something (I forgot for now)04:35
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MinatakuAh04:35
Fr0deSearch4Lancer: in a term, type: mount04:35
MinatakuYeah, that's a shortsight04:35
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SchuenemannI installed the nvidia-legacy but I get a black screen when I restart X and I have to restart the whole system, use the safe mode and replace the xorg.conf04:35
MinatakuSchuenemann: Yipe!04:35
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Fr0deSearch4Lancer: and find what device it is, then umount that device04:35
Schuenemannyeah heh04:35
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Search4Lancerheh, silly me, helps to have the actual path...04:35
MinatakuI wish someone else was here, I'm not quite up to helping tonight XD04:36
david_hi there. ive actidently deleted the default apache2 index.html file. is there a way i can recreate this file?04:36
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Fr0deSearch4Lancer: :P04:36
Schuenemannhmm :-/04:36
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Search4Lancerexcept... it's not listed04:36
Minatakuataraxia_: Playing Aegis Wing lately?04:36
Fr0de!offtopic | Minataku04:36
ubotuMinataku: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:36
hitmanWillyMinataku, howdy :)04:36
MinatakuFr0de: One line is hardly offtopic04:36
Schuenemannataraxua is a phantasy start IV magic04:36
Schuenemannataraxia*04:37
Minataku!attitude | Fr0de04:37
ubotuFr0de: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:37
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Fr0deMinataku: thought I'd get in early! :P04:37
MinatakuSchuenemann: Ah, it's also the bad guys in Aegis Wing04:37
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Schuenemann!why | Fr0de04:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about why - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:37
MinatakuFr0de: Sorry, I'm just in a bit of a sour mood04:37
Schuenemannnevermind04:37
MinatakuApologies for the snap04:38
Fr0deMinataku: no worries! :)04:38
Minataku^^04:38
binserI'm trying to install Kubuntu, it won't let me choose to resize my windows install, any ideas?04:38
draikMinataku: I don't suppose you know what I need for the GeForce FX 5700LE, do you?04:38
draikMinataku: says it's supported by 7.0404:38
Search4Lanceralright Fr0de, I found it in the /dev/disk/by-label folder listed as sda2... however, that still claims to not be mounted - guess it's time to just give up and either log out and back in, or reboot, eh?04:39
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Fr0deSearch4Lancer: hmm.. did you 'sudo umount /dev/sda2' ?04:40
Search4Lancernope, would've expected a permissions error if that was necessary but not done04:40
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Search4Lanceryup, still no go04:40
Minatakudraik: No idea, sorry04:41
Fr0deSearch4Lancer: what do you get if you 'sudo lsof /dev/sda2' ?04:41
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MinatakuhitmanWilly: Heya (Sorry for the late reply X3 )04:41
Search4LancerFr0de: a short little lag, then another prompt, but no message, and it's still showing as a locked folder in /media04:42
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bryanFrode-got it fixed04:42
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draikMinataku: Thanks04:43
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draikhitmanWilly: It was my power supply!04:43
hitmanWillyMinataku, that's fine, im kinda back and forth tonight04:43
Fr0deSearch4Lancer: and it's not in the output from 'mount' now?04:43
Fr0debryan: cool :)04:43
hitmanWillydraik, what was?04:43
bryanFrode- used sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx04:43
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Fr0debryan: good old driver issues.. nothing like 'em.. :P04:44
draikhitmanWilly: From last night when my desktop gave out on me04:44
Search4LancerFr0de: it never was04:44
bryanFrode-Thanks for all your help04:44
hitmanWillydraik, oh, ok, sorry, no short term memory anymore...04:44
draikLOL04:44
Fr0debryan: *shrug* I didn't really do anything.. ;)04:44
draikIt's ok04:44
najibhey04:44
najibumm.....04:44
najibi swtiched from GNOME04:44
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najibto KDE04:44
najibis there a way to get icons04:45
najibfor KDE04:45
bryanNow to a new issue04:45
Fr0deSearch4Lancer: did you close amarok?04:45
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Search4Lancerdid now :-)04:45
hitmanWillynajib, you mean have the same desktop icons you did in gnome?04:46
bryanI can't get my xternal drive to work.  It see it but I cannot access it04:46
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najibhitmanwilly, no i mean as in get better icons for KDE04:46
Fr0deSearch4Lancer: then unplug the drive, I think.. and plug it in again..04:46
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bryanI read that I can force the drive to show but I don't know how04:46
Search4Lancertrust me, that's the first thing I tried :-D04:46
Search4Lancerbone it, I'll just log out or reboot.... thanks for trying, though04:47
MinatakuhitmanWilly: So am I (quite obviously XD )04:47
MinatakuSorry again, BTW X304:47
MinatakuI think I'll just go04:47
Fr0deSearch4Lancer: try to log out first04:47
hitmanWillynj786, yup, you can download new ones and change them out to your hearts content :)04:47
hitmanWillynj786, try kde-look.org and look through the icon themes04:48
nj786hitmanwilly, mind showing me how?04:48
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hitmanWillynj786, right click on any icon, edit it, then click the icon in the dialog that comes up04:49
Search4Lancerboooo, didn't work....04:49
hitmanWillynj786, err by edit it i mean select properties04:50
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binserAnyone know why Kubuntu install won't give me the choice to resize my ntsf partition?04:53
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Search4Lancerand that, my friends, is what's known as overheating twice in a row04:57
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draikWOOHOO05:02
draikI got my nVidia drivers going05:02
draikand Beryl05:02
draikHmmm... no border on my windows...05:03
draik!beryl05:03
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects05:03
DragnslcrThere's a command to fix that05:04
Dragnslcrsudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 2405:04
DragnslcrShould do it05:04
Jucatoor run beryl-manager and choose Aquamarine as your window decoration...05:04
Jucato(you need to have beryl-manager and aquamarine installed of course)05:04
draikDragnslcr: Do I need to restart X or something?05:05
draikafter I do that command05:06
draik!botsnack05:06
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!05:06
crdlbdraik, yes05:06
crdlb(to the restart X)05:06
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draikcrdlb: Thank you.05:07
draikWill do in a bit05:07
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draikThat did it Dragnslcr05:10
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draikThank you05:11
draikJucato: Thank you so much for the driver info05:11
Jucatodraik: sure05:11
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romudogHow do i enable mp3 support in AmaroK?05:16
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michael_mcan someone help me with a network problem05:17
michael_m?05:17
Dr_willis!mp305:19
Dr_willisI though amarok asked to download the mp3 stuff..05:19
romudog!mp305:19
romudogit does05:19
romudogbut it crashes every time05:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:19
Dr_willisI recall that.. i forget how i got it to go.. I think i just apt-get installed'ed the package it was wanting from the shell05:19
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fitoria_hay05:20
fitoria_hey can any one help me05:20
Dr_willis!ask05:20
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:20
fitoria_with a nvidia driver05:21
romudog!nvidia05:21
fitoria_for a gefroce4 440mx05:21
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:21
fitoria_ok ill see05:21
michael_mfitoria  search for a program called envy. does everything automatically05:21
fitoria_o thanks05:21
Dr_willisheck its a simple apt-get install nvidia-glx05:21
Dr_willislast i looked.05:21
Dr_williswas rather simple without envy. :)05:22
fitoria_so what can i do05:22
Dr_willisI think envy does use the Latest 'from nvidia' drivers05:22
draikfitoria_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new05:22
Dr_willisfitoria_,  read the !nvidia site the bot gave... for a start05:22
michael_myeah it goes to the nvidia website adn gets the lates05:22
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hitmanWillyDr_willis, yeah, but that nasty xorg.conf editing :)05:22
Dr_willishitmanWilly,  what nasty? change nv to nvidia?05:23
fitoria_do  i have to change the xorg05:23
Dr_willis:)05:23
hitmanWillyDr_willis, that was a joke05:23
Dr_willisactually with the apt-get stuff ya dont even need to do that do ya? thers some command that does it.05:23
Dr_willisACTUALLY dosent the 'restricted-drivers' tool handle this now a days under feisty?05:23
hitmanWillyDr_willis, nvidia-xconfig, which does in fact work pretty well05:23
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hitmanWillyDr_willis, when it works05:24
fitoria_so with envy is easier05:24
draikfitoria_: Sorry, not new... sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx05:24
lmerovingiohow can i set the beryl to start at begin05:24
fitoria_or without it05:24
michael_mfitoria, heres envy   http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html05:24
fitoria_ok05:24
fitoria_thanks05:24
draik!startup05:24
ubotuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot05:24
draiklmerovingio: ^^05:24
hitmanWillylmerovingio, link it in ~/.kde/Autostart05:25
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michael_mcan someone help me with a network issue?05:25
fitoria_hey envy says that05:25
romudog!ask05:25
fitoria_ubuntu is suported05:25
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:25
lmerovingiojeje, sorry i am new05:25
draikfitoria_: Don't use envy05:25
fitoria_but kubuntu05:25
fitoria_?05:25
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Dr_willisfitoria_,  you really DONT need to be using envy05:25
crdlbfitoria_, what card do you have?05:25
michael_mim running kubuntu and it workd05:25
fitoria_geforce4 440mx05:26
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fitoria_i thing05:26
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Dr_willisI could of gotten the nvidia stuff installed by the time it took ya to even look up envy.05:26
draikcrdlb: It's under the nvidia-glx package05:26
michael_mubuntu is gnome and kubuntu is kde ubuntu basically05:26
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crdlbfitoria_, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-generic && sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 2405:26
Dr_willis'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx' ( READ that bots wiki it gave for other potential issues)05:26
Dr_willis!nvidia05:26
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:26
michael_mdr willis could ya help me with a network problem?05:26
Dr_willisdepends on the problem michael_m05:27
hitmanWillymichael_m, what's the issue?05:27
michael_mwell i cant get ndiswrapper to wrap around the windows driver for my netgear card05:27
fitoria_crdlb those sudo in 2 separated lines isnt05:27
fitoria_?05:27
michael_mim running 64 bit and using the marvell 64 bit drivers05:27
crdlbfitoria_, no that's all one command05:28
fitoria_ok05:28
fitoria_i ll try rigth now05:28
michael_mwhen i run modprobe ndiswrapper the console says    Killed05:28
michael_many ideas?05:28
crdlbfitoria_, is it a laptop?05:28
fitoria_nop05:28
fitoria_is a destktop05:29
crdlbthen you shouldn't get the black screen issue05:29
hitmanWillymichael_m, run modprobe with the -v option05:29
fitoria_look it says sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-generic && sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 2405:29
fitoria_ops sorry05:29
hitmanWillymichael_m, that may help in diagnosing the issue05:29
michael_mi did that first05:29
fitoria_dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.05:29
michael_mthe  ... --first time   command??05:29
bryanfiltoria- try using ENVY google it05:30
fitoria_crdlb what happened05:30
hitmanWillymichael_m, modprobe -v ndiswrapper05:30
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michael_mok, ill try it05:30
hitmanWillymichael_m, can you pastebin the output of that?05:30
hitmanWilly!paste | michael_m05:30
ubotumichael_m: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:30
michael_msure. just lemme redownload ndiswrapper05:30
Dr_willisfitoria_,  fix the pakcage manager with 'sudo dpkg --confgure -a' like its suggesting05:30
hitmanWillymichael_m, k05:30
bryanfiltoria- it would look for your card and down lod driver auto.05:31
fitoria_ok05:31
fitoria_ill try05:31
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fitoria_what do i select05:31
fitoria_in the sudo dpkg --confgure -a05:31
Dr_willistry it and see what it does. Im wondering how ya packages got confused.05:32
hitmanWillyfitoria_, you don't have to select anything05:32
fitoria_ok05:32
fitoria_i misspelled05:32
bryanHow do you force my xternal hdd to show up?05:32
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bob_sinclairshow up where?05:33
hitmanWillybryan, mount it by hand05:33
bryanhitmanwilly- how05:33
lmerovingiohow can I create a link of beryl in the autostart directory05:33
fitoria_its running05:33
bob_sinclair!autostart05:33
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.05:33
hitmanWillybryan, sudo mount /dev/<name of device> /<mountpoint>05:34
fitoria_i did the dpkg --configure -a05:34
fitoria_next i get the drivers ok?05:34
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bob_sinclairbryan confirm the partition/disk in sudo fdisk -l05:35
fitoria_hey it has some dependences05:35
crazy_buswhenever I try and install or remove things with apt or dpkg I get error like this one, what should I do? unable to open files list file for package `kget': Input/output error05:35
fitoria_anybody home05:36
fitoria_?05:36
bryanbob_sinclair-ok05:36
fitoria_crdlb?05:36
Dr_willisfitoria_,  you know we are here.05:37
Dr_willisfitoria_,  be a bit more verbose in your problems.. we dont have ESP.05:37
Dr_willisat least I dont.. :) that you know of...05:38
fitoria_?05:38
draikDr_willis: You don't have ESP? I would have thought you were the Sifu ESP05:38
Dr_willisdraik,  im more of a 'remote viewer' :)05:38
draikDr_willis: Not a 'remote reader' huh?05:39
Dr_willisthen theres those darn space aliens  in my head!05:39
Dr_willisdraik,  what i view.. you dont need to read. :)05:39
draikDr_willis: Do what I do... wear the aluminum hats! What I read and think.... just keep out!05:39
fitoria_so what hapend with my dependences?05:39
draikfitoria_: They have to be met05:40
Dr_willisfitoria_,  we barly have a cluw what you are refering to...05:40
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Dr_willisapt-get install Whatever. 'should' install all dependencies05:40
fitoria_so ill explain05:40
fitoria_look05:40
bryanwhat is a mount point05:40
fitoria_i did 'dpkg --configure -a'05:40
draikfitoria_: I keep getting an error. How do I fix it? That's what you're giving us05:41
Dr_willisbryan,  a directory, (that allready exists) that a filesystem 'shows up in'05:41
draikfitoria_: Do as you're told05:41
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fitoria_then i sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-generic && sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 2405:41
Dr_willisbryan,  mount /dev/hda1 /media/stuff (stuff is a folder, that is the mount point)05:41
hitmanWillybryan, its a directory on the system where you want the drive to attach to05:41
fitoria_so it says installing then it says it have some dependences05:41
draikfitoria_: sudo apt-get install <missing package 1> <missing package 2> ... <missing package n>05:41
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Dr_willisbecause apt-get should auto select them.. UNLESS you are refering to the 'reccomended' packages.05:42
fitoria_draik: should i put that05:42
draikDr_willis: Bet it's got nothing to do with nvidia or beryl05:42
draikfitoria_: not exactly as I gave it to you.05:42
Dr_willisfitoria_,  what packages are it saying is 'dependences'05:42
michael_mhitmanWilly   sorry i had to reboot. what was that command? modprobe ndiswrapper -m?05:42
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fitoria_wait a second05:43
draik1...05:43
draik2....05:43
hitmanWillysudo modprobe -v ndiswrapper05:43
draik3...05:43
draik.................05:43
Dr_willis:)05:43
fitoria_this one05:43
fitoria_j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin: Depende: j2re1.4 pero no va a instalarse05:43
michael_mk, and can u give me a link to the pastebin05:43
draikMissing java05:43
hitmanWilly!paste | michael_m05:43
ubotumichael_m: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:43
Dr_willis1.4 ? isent that rather old?05:44
Dr_willis!java05:44
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.05:44
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Dr_willisOh wait - its suns funny versioning.. :)05:44
draikfitoria_: sudo apt-get install sun-java605:44
fitoria_ok05:44
draikfitoria_: list all of them05:44
draikwith your install05:44
fitoria_how?05:45
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fitoria_it says thath i doestn find a package sun-java 605:45
JEANMASShi05:45
Dr_willisfitoria_,  did you type it right?05:45
michael_mhitmanWilly   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27223/05:45
michael_mit didnt do like it did last time05:45
fitoria_yes05:45
fitoria_i did05:45
JEANMASSi use wengo05:45
fitoria_sun-java605:45
JEANMASShowever the last version is not in the repos05:46
JEANMASSshoud i install the package from the website?05:46
draikfitoria_: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-demo sun-java6-doc sun-java6-fonts sun-java6-javadb sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-source05:46
crazy_busI tried to fix my apt with this command posted on the ubuntu forums "sudo sh -c "mv /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status.bak; sudo apt-get update""  Now I get this error dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for reading: No such file or directory05:46
Dr_willisi always just install 'sudo apt-get install  sun-java6-jre'05:46
hitmanWillymichael_m, it looks like its working05:46
michael_mnow what do i do05:46
fitoria_i will try dr willis05:46
JEANMASS??05:46
hitmanWillymichael_m, see if its working :)05:46
Dr_willisfitoria_,  draik 's line installs Every java thing that exists. ) i think. :) heh.05:47
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fitoria_ok05:47
fitoria_willis i didnt worked05:47
michael_mhitmanWilly i right click on knetwork manager but my wireless doesnt show up05:47
Dr_willisTalk about a caffine kick.05:47
fitoria_i ll try draik05:47
Dr_willisfitoria_,  things like 'dident work' dont really tell us much.05:47
hitmanWillymichael_m, ok, sudo iwconfig, paste that05:48
fitoria_it doesnt find the package05:48
michael_mk05:48
draikDr_willis: What is so hard about it doesn't work o-O?05:48
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fitoria_draik it has dependences too05:48
michael_mhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27223/05:48
bryanok so I need to mount this:05:49
bryanDisk /dev/sdb: 250.0 GB, 250059349504 bytes05:49
draiksudo apt-get upgrade05:49
bryan255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders05:49
bryanUnits = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes05:49
bryan   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System05:49
bryan/dev/sdb1               1       19122   153597433+   7  HPFS/NTFS05:49
bryan/dev/sdb2           19123       24792    45544275    7  HPFS/NTFS05:49
bryan/dev/sdb3           24793       30401    45054292+   7  HPFS/NTFS05:49
fitoria_are you sure draik05:49
draik!pastebin | bryan05:49
ubotubryan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:49
Dr_willisfitoria_,  are you using the latest Kubuntu? "Version Feisty" ?05:49
fitoria_yes05:49
fitoria_7.0405:49
bryansorry did not mean to do that05:49
fitoria_up to date05:50
draikDr_willis: This would have been a great "how do you do" if it was dapper05:50
michael_mhitmanWilly05:50
michael_mmichael@michael-desktop:~/Desktop/wg311v3-x64/WG311v3-x64$ su05:50
michael_mPassword:05:50
michael_mroot@michael-desktop:/home/michael/Desktop/wg311v3-x64/WG311v3-x64# ndiswrapper -i WG311v3.INF05:50
michael_minstalling wg311v3 ...05:50
fitoria_so what can i do05:50
michael_mroot@michael-desktop:/home/michael/Desktop/wg311v3-x64/WG311v3-x64# ndiswrapper -l05:50
michael_mwg311v3 : driver installed05:50
michael_m        device (11AB:1FAA) present05:50
michael_mroot@michael-desktop:/home/michael/Desktop/wg311v3-x64/WG311v3-x64# modprobe -v ndiswrapper05:50
hitmanWillymichael_m, im looking at that right now05:50
michael_minsmod /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/ubuntu/misc/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko05:50
michael_mroot@michael-desktop:/home/michael/Desktop/wg311v3-x64/WG311v3-x64# iwconfig05:50
bryanSo how to a force this drive to open:Disk /dev/sdb: 250.0 GB05:51
michael_mlo        no wireless extensions.05:51
michael_meth0      no wireless extensions.05:51
michael_mroot@michael-desktop:/home/michael/Desktop/wg311v3-x64/WG311v3-x64#05:51
michael_mcrap05:51
michael_msorry05:51
michael_mwrong paste05:51
bob_sinclairbryan: which partition?05:51
bob_sinclair!ntfs05:51
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:51
bryanntfs05:52
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hitmanWillymichael_m, ok, im not really an expert on ndiswrapper, but if the modules loading into the kernel, it should be working05:52
fitoria_drwillis_05:52
fitoria_?05:52
bob_sinclairbryan: i see 3 listed05:52
hitmanWillymichael_m, are you sure its set up properly?05:52
bob_sinclair/dev/sdb1, /dev/sdb2 etc.05:52
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bryanHow could you see the 3?05:53
bob_sinclairbryan: read the above link05:53
bob_sinclairit details how to do it05:53
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bryanlets try the first one05:53
michael_mhitmanWilly. ill try one more time. could u take a look at my dmesg file though. i also have a really slow boot up and i think it shows whey in dmesg05:53
hitmanWillymichael_m, ill see what i can do05:54
Dr_willisfitoria_, ?  You may want to paste your full error output to a pastebin site. Some how youve managed to get your package manager confused.05:54
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hitmanWillymichael_m, you can take out the quiet option in /boot/grub/menu.lst to see where its hanging yourself if you want05:55
fitoria_ok05:55
Dr_willisi always fix up the boot to show all messages. :)05:56
Dr_willisI like seeing them05:56
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jonschnapshi05:56
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jonschnapsthe wengo package from repos is not the last one05:56
jonschnapsthere is a package available on their website05:56
jonschnapsi was told to prefer the packages from repos05:56
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michael_mhitmanWilly i havent been using linux long enough to understand how to do what u did. heres the pastebin   its pretty huge (but repetitive i think)   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27225/05:57
jonschnapsbut the new version is much better05:57
fitoria_here it is05:57
fitoria_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27226/05:57
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fitoria_ok05:57
Dr_willisfitoria_,  ICKY....05:58
Dr_willissun-java6-bin: Depende: unixodbc pero no va a instalarse05:58
Dr_willis                 Depende: libstdc++5 pero no va a instalarse05:58
Dr_willisHow the heck is it having issues with libstdc++05:58
Dr_willisWhat have you been doing withyour system? :)05:58
fitoria_i dont know05:58
fitoria_well05:58
fitoria_i just intall it05:59
MinatakuDr_willis: What's up?05:59
Minataku:D05:59
fitoria_yesterday05:59
fitoria_and i updated it05:59
MinatakuWait05:59
Dr_willisfitoria_,  you sure you havent done anything else odd?05:59
Minatakusun-java6-bin depends on libstdc++5, but it is not installed05:59
fitoria_no05:59
MinatakuThat sounds bad05:59
fitoria_nothing05:59
Dr_willisMinataku,  yep. thats what i wa thinking.05:59
Dr_willis!info libstdc++506:00
ubotulibstdc++5: The GNU Standard C++ Library v3. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.3.6-15ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 289 kB, installed size 852 kB06:00
michael_mhitmanWilly any ideas?06:00
Dr_willisi wonder if his repositories are messed up.06:00
Dr_willisfitoria_,  try a 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' see if that kicks it all in the head.06:01
fitoria_ok all together06:01
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fitoria_workning06:01
fitoria_well the message are in spanish06:02
fitoria_because06:02
fitoria_i instaled it in spanish06:02
bob_sinclair!es06:02
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:02
fitoria_ok06:02
fitoria_gracias06:02
hitmanWillymichael_m, it seems like your hdd is repeatedly resetting itself for some odd reason, also it looks like the windows driver itself on your wireless card isn't talking to the card itself06:03
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fitoria_look at this please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27227/06:04
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Dr_willisLos siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:06:06
Dr_willis  j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin: Depende: j2re1.4 pero no est instalado06:06
Dr_willisI would say just remove that  j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin :) for a start06:06
Dr_willissudo apt-get remove j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin06:06
draikDr_willis: You're still on this? I left to make a sammich and talked to the wifey for a bit.06:06
terayamhello, this is my first day with linuc and I'm having some issues with a few KDE applications regarding internet access06:06
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fitoria_ok06:07
fitoria_i will do06:07
draikterayam: ok... what issues?06:07
Dr_willisdraik,  handign it over to you then. :) i gotta go hit the shower... :P06:07
draikDr_willis: something's pooched.06:07
draikrepos maybe06:07
Dr_willisdraik,  thats what i was thinking.06:08
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jonschnapsguys how to execute a file.sh?06:08
terayamwell neither my knoqueror or amarok seem to be able to access the internet, but firefox and others work fine06:08
wsjuniori have i problem here with the touchpad of my laptop (this one: http://rafb.net/p/ol1xZ890.html). when i log into kde it works for some time but it suddenly stop working without any error message. is this a know problem?06:09
draik!source-o-matic | fitoria_06:09
ubotufitoria_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:09
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wsjuniorand also my keyboard sometimes repeat keys doing things like thiiiiiiiiiiis06:09
trakinasjonschnaps: check if it does have execution permitions.06:10
fitoria_ok06:10
jonschnapsit does have06:10
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fitoria_ill check06:10
wsjuniorboth works flawlessly in windows, so i think its not a hardware issue..06:10
jonschnapsbut when i click it nothin happen06:10
trakinasjonschnaps: then, ./nameofthefile.sh06:10
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intelikeyoh no.  my worst fears have come true.  i've died and went to hell.   and have to use windows vesta for ever.06:10
jonschnapsi type ./nameofthefile.sh in konsole?06:11
trakinasjonschnaps: yes06:11
trakinashow do I make my ide ata dvd drive not to be scsi emulated?06:11
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draikintelikey: Vesta? Is that like the Vespa compared to a Kitana/Ninja/Harley?06:11
draikintelikey: BTW, it was a bad PSU on my desktop from last night06:11
trakinask3b detects it as a scsi emulator. it does not work here in ubuntu, but works fine on gentoo, where it isnt detected as scsi06:11
wsjunioranybody else experiences problems with the scroll of  synaptics touchpad?06:12
jonschnapstrakinas: i am trying to run the latest wengo i downloaded from the website06:12
jonschnapsshould i uninstall the ubuntu packge?06:12
draikwsjunior: Nope. Mine works fine. HP Pavilion N515006:12
trakinasintelikey: yes. i still have the same problem... :/ (i was reading my logs to trying to find one link i saw once, about making it be /hdd, for instance))06:13
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wsjuniordraik: are u using any special configuration?06:13
wsjuniordraik: or just the defaults?06:13
terayamdraik: well neither my knoqueror or amarok seem to be able to access the internet, but firefox and others work fine06:13
intelikeydraik oh,  yeah you said you let the smoke out of the psu06:13
draikwsjunior: Nope. It's a full install of Kubuntu06:13
trakinasjonschnaps: it is better if you remove it, but not needed. have you read all wengo instructions?06:13
jonschnapsthere are no instructions06:13
draikintelikey: I let the magic smoke out of the elf factory06:13
intelikeytosheba satelite any good ?06:14
draikterayam: Don't know what to tell you. Check your settings06:14
trakinasreally?06:14
terayamdraik: alright, I dunno what to look for though really06:14
draikintelikey: I don't like Toshiba at all. Nothing but bad products and horrible luck06:14
intelikeylooks like it has ati  too.....06:14
draiklaptops, satellites, TVs, DVD players... crud06:15
intelikeylike i said it's my worst nightmare06:15
draikSorry, I didn't know the reference06:15
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Dr_willisIve seen some guys with real bad luck with Toshiba Laptops.06:16
Dr_willisand they were NOT impressed with Toshibas tech support.06:16
cristianooi06:16
cristianocaramba tudo em ingles rsrs06:16
Dr_willis"laptop over heating? leave the cd-drive door open" was what i heard tech support say.06:17
intelikeyDr_willis uhh.06:17
Dr_willisintelikey,  yea.. the guy was NOT happy with his toshiba.06:17
kalorinI like mine06:17
kalorinhaven't tried linux on it though06:17
Dr_willisOf course different models/makes have different issues.06:17
kalorinanyone running an opteron?06:18
intelikey;/06:18
Dr_willisI had  sony that the case broke in half... had HP's with bad hinges.. over an dover and over....06:18
cristianosomebody me inform .. who sala portuguese ?06:18
kalorinI ordered an opeteron 165 for my socket 939 motherboard and waiting for it to get here06:18
Dr_willisGot a little COmpaq. thats doing ok Linux wise now. :)06:18
kalorinwondering if it'll just run on the -generic kernel06:18
trakinas!portugues | cristiano06:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about portugues - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:18
trakinas!portuguese | cristiano06:18
ubotucristiano: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.06:18
kalorinreplacing an athlon64 3200+06:18
BluesKaj!pt | cristiano06:19
trakinasBluesKaj: you are late. =P06:19
cristianook thank you .... my ingles is Bad ....haha06:19
BluesKajyup it is late , almost time for bed06:19
kalorinpast bedtime for me06:19
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cristiano#ubuntu06:20
cristianoops06:20
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trakinasalread passed bed time here06:21
intelikeyDr_willis openion ?   any chance that a non-profesional like myself, can get ubuntu linux to work to a low-end satisfactory condition on the tosheba satalite lappy  with ati graphic  ?06:21
maynards-girli'm having difficulty intalling the nvidia drivers for my graphics card. i tried following the directions on the ubuntu forum but it didn't work06:21
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Fr0de!nv | maynards-girl06:21
ubotumaynards-girl: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:21
Fr0demaynards-girl:  is that one you tried?06:22
maynards-girlnope06:22
intelikeyif you say "yes" i'll issue cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda  and get started, Dr_willis06:22
maynards-girli'll look over that06:22
Fr0demaynards-girl: cool - good luck! :)06:22
maynards-girlfr0de, thanks06:22
draikDr_willis: say yes, say yes06:23
intelikeydraik heh it's brand new.06:23
BluesKajnitey nite all06:24
draikNuke it, pave it, and show them what Linux is all about06:24
intelikeytrying to run cfdisk i'm getting "FATAL ERROR: bad primary partition 1: partition ends in the final partal cylind"06:25
maynards-girlThe directions say to go to "System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager", but i don't see that in kubuntu. what do i use instead?06:26
MinatakuThe hinges tend to be a common failure point06:26
MinatakuEven Piyoko has hinge issues06:26
draikQuestion...06:26
draikHow do I make my own Kubuntu DVD?06:26
MinatakuI fixed it externally with some superglue06:26
draikI want to make an install with all of the packages I have now and such06:26
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draikintelikey: JB Weld works wonders06:27
Fr0dedraik: apt on cd06:27
MinatakuI had to push down on the left speaker grille06:27
MinatakuThen glue it dow06:27
Minatakun06:27
MinatakuIt's not perfect, but it's close enough06:27
draikFr0de: What is the command?06:27
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Fr0dedraik: aptoncd is a package - I've never used it, but I know it makes a cd or dvd with .debs - google it.. :)06:28
draikThank you Fr0de06:28
Fr0de:D06:28
maynards-girlfr0de,  The directions say to go to "System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager", but i don't see that in kubuntu. what do i use instead?06:29
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draikFr0de: DraiKubuntu?06:30
Fr0demaynards-girl: oh, that'd be the Gnome info..06:30
intelikeyparted can't resize ntfs ?06:31
Fr0demaynards-girl: hmm.. maybe try envy: http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html06:31
wsjuniori kinda found the my problem here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/6854006:31
Fr0deintelikey: sounds about right..06:31
wsjuniorits so odd. the scroll back to work after vt switch06:32
draikFr0de: That's only for the repos. What about making my own "distro" from my settings and such06:32
wsjuniordoes anybody know anything about this?06:32
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Dr_willisdraik,  interesting you shoudl ask that.. Ive just noticed that 'Mint Linux' (a ubuntu variant) has JUST that feature06:32
draikDr_willis: Package name?06:32
Dr_willishttp://www.linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php/Remastersys06:33
Dr_willis!info remastersys06:33
draikThank you06:33
Dr_willisIt may be only in the mint repositories06:33
ubotuPackage remastersys does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:33
Fr0dedraik: you mean you want to make your own distro? I think googling for 'make my own linux distribution' or similar will give you links to howtos.. ;)06:33
intelikeynuking and paving06:33
Dr_willisThey let you backup your /home or not..  :)06:33
draikI'm not looking for a backup, I just want a copy of my current distro and settings for in case something happens I can always install everything that I have now06:34
Dr_willisIt backs up the current system to a dvd/cd and allows you to boot the cd's to install the system/clone it.06:34
Dr_willisI havent tested it.. yet. :)06:35
draikDr_willis: That's what I want... too bad I don't have it in my repos06:35
Dr_willisdraik,  that url sort of ends :) luckly i have Mint installed.. and can paste you my sources.list :)06:35
draikIs Mint like mint-desktop?06:36
intelikeyDr_willis you're off the hook,   i took the inititive and issued the cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda  command without your ok,  thus they can't blame anyone but me...06:36
draikintelikey: It's ok. You can blame me. I told you to do it06:36
Dr_willisdraik,  linuxmint is a ubuntu-variant with several tools like 'mintdesktop' and 'mintdisk' included06:36
draikBesides, I've been going from blame to flame all day06:36
intelikeydraik but these guys fly those all black choppers, and play for keeps.06:37
draikDr_willis: So what is the point to Mint? Smaller? compact?06:37
Dr_willisdraik,  more friendly in ways.. tweaked.. includes a lot of the 'not legally allowed' in ubuntu stuff :)06:38
draikDr_willis: What is your lag? I'm at 83ms and your PMs are coming 1 line per sec06:38
Dr_willis.2 sec it says06:38
intelikey/ping self06:38
Dr_willising reply from Dr_willis : 0.37 second(s)06:39
MinatakuDr_willis: What's up?06:39
MinatakuThere's a lot of lag tonight it seems06:39
Dr_willisIm just websurfing and goofing off..06:40
Dr_willisalmost bed time for me06:40
intelikeyhehhe you are closer to you than i am to me  lol06:40
MinatakuDr_willis: Ah06:40
intelikey-:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 0.674 seconds06:41
MinatakuRemember that CTCP PING adds a lot of overhead06:41
wsjuniordoes anybody know a definitive fix for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/6854006:42
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intelikeywhat command do you use for a "read -p"  in the xwindow ?06:44
draikSo what does APTonCD do?06:45
intelikeyi'll have to adapt a script for the point&click folks.   anyone know ?06:45
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se7enanyone know how to share folder between linux06:52
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bob_sinclair!samba | se7en06:57
ubotuse7en: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:57
bob_sinclair!nfs06:57
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.06:57
wolferinese7en, two linux boxes?06:57
se7enyes wolferine06:58
wolferineNFS06:58
wolferinelet me grab this good tutorial06:58
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wolferinehttp://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/06:58
wolferinethere06:58
se7enthanks06:58
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wolferineall the reading about it you need06:58
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wolferinetrust me, take the time to read it06:58
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draikDr_willis: I got remastersys\07:02
draikWhat now?07:02
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Dr_willisdraik,  rtfm? :) run it?07:02
Dr_willisI aint used it yet.07:02
draikDr_willis: run from where? i dont see it in my list07:02
Dr_willisbut once i get this box set up how i like it.. i will.07:02
Dr_willisdraik,  'use the shell luke'07:02
draikok07:03
Dr_willis'come over to the cli side!'07:03
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Dr_williswhere ELSE could ya run it from? :)07:03
Dr_willisalso the page on that program said be SURE to unmount network shares and so forth.07:03
Dr_willisit may try to back them up07:03
purpleposeidonheyo, how can I make the.... 'linux' key show the menu instead of alt-f1?07:04
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trakinaspurpleposeidon: linux key! good one.07:05
MinatakuDr_willis: Figure out a way to strengthen up that box you nicked yet?07:05
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purpleposeidonCORRECT one.07:05
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wolferine:)07:05
trakinas=P07:05
purpleposeidonI think kde actually calls it the windows key, tho07:05
wolferinecorrection:07:05
wolferinewinBLOWs key :)07:05
purpleposeidoncorrection: just win07:06
Fr0deyup07:06
MinatakuNo07:06
MinatakuTHE correction: "Super"07:06
MinatakuIt's the "Super" key07:06
purpleposeidonsuper meta?07:06
purpleposeidonI still haven't figured out which key's the 'meta' key . :-)07:06
MinatakuRight Alt07:06
MinatakuI believe07:07
trakinasunbeliveble.07:07
MinatakuAt least it's supposed to be07:07
purpleposeidonwhatever happened to left out? Did he get left alt?07:07
trakinasone guy ws asking about how to execute wengophone07:07
Minataku<.<07:07
trakinasyou just have to click n the sh file.07:07
trakinasI downloaded 30mb... :/07:07
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trakinasnow, is time to go to bed.07:08
trakinasdefenetely.07:08
trakinasdefinetely...07:08
MinatakuDefinitely07:08
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trakinasMinataku: thanks07:08
Fr0deat 15:08 in the afternoon? ;)07:08
trakinasthis is a hard word to spell.07:08
Minatakutrakinas: np07:08
Minatakupurpleposeidon: Try the "Menu" key instead07:09
trakinasFr0de: at 02:0907:09
trakinaspurpleposeidon: good tricks!07:09
Fr0detrakinas: lol - you must be in Europe?07:09
purpleposeidonwhatyoutalkingaboutmitch1?07:09
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trakinasFr0de: no. south america07:09
trakinas-3 gmt07:09
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Fr0de:)07:09
Fr0de!offtopic | Fr0de07:10
Fr0de:P07:10
Minataku1:09AM here07:10
MinatakuI'ma head to sleep, too07:10
MinatakuLater, all07:10
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Fr0degood night, those heading to bed! :D07:10
purpleposeidonthe time is offtopic, but everyone seems to be talking about it anyways.07:10
purpleposeidonwether they want to or not07:11
Dr_willisMinataku,  heck - we got a house full of people here for the next few days.. wifes been keeping me so busy. i aint evenhad time to breath.07:11
Fr0depurpleposeidon: yeah, which is why I directed the offtopic notice to myself! :D07:11
purpleposeidonbut you're still not complying, I still you're saying the time before your name. You should be kick/banned! >:)07:11
Fr0depurpleposeidon: as for remapping the win key to pop up the menu, if you figure it out, let me know! :)07:12
purpleposeidon*I still see that you're07:12
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MinatakuDr_willis: Ah. Take your time then, no rush. :D07:12
Dr_willisI got an old ibm clicky keybard... No Windows key!07:12
Dr_willis:)07:12
trakinaswho was asking about the superkey binding thing?07:12
Dr_willisand it weighs like 10 lb.07:12
trakinashttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39176207:12
MinatakuDr_willis: Sweet07:12
Dr_willisGotta love rummage sale finds.07:13
Minatakupurpleposeidon: Seriously, try the "Menu" key07:13
Fr0detrakinas: that was purpleposeidon (and I'm interested)07:13
trakinasnow, for something complete different...07:13
trakinascheers all!07:13
tmbgDr_willis, my ibm model M turns 20 this year.07:13
trakinasgtg07:13
MinatakuIt should have a picture of a menu on it07:13
purpleposeidonthere is noo menu key. There's a compose key....07:13
tmbgin december I think it is.07:13
Minatakupurpleposeidon: What the hell kind of keyboard do you have?07:13
MinatakuThe "Menu" key is the other one they added with the "Super" key07:14
purpleposeidonwell, I'm verbally attacking you on a laptop right now.07:14
MinatakuMine has a Menu key O.o07:14
MinatakuI'm on a laptop too07:14
purpleposeidonwell, it shows a menu, but I'm pretty sure it's called compose07:14
Minataku 01:13:17 up 106 days, 20:39,  6 users,  load average: 0.11, 0.08, 0.0707:14
Minataku:D07:14
purpleposeidonIt has more or less the same effect of right clicking on the selection07:14
tmbgctrl+esc should send the same code as windows key. to send that other key there's probably a way but I don't know it.07:15
Minatakupurpleposeidon: I think there's an option in the command center or whatever it's called07:15
purpleposeidonyeah, I see it now07:15
MinatakuCoo07:15
MinatakuJust change it around07:15
MinatakuSwitch "M" to "X" and "G" to "Ctrl+Alt+BkSp" while you're there07:16
Minatakuj/k07:16
MinatakuXD07:16
Dr_willisctrl-escape pops up the kde system guard here07:16
tmbgyeah which should be the same as the windows key that you're missing07:17
tmbgand that I'm missing for that matter07:17
purpleposeidonI'm not seeing it.... :/07:17
purpleposeidonokay, it's under 'regions & accesability' for some reason07:18
MinatakuHeh07:18
MinatakuI should head to sleep07:18
MinatakuDr_willis: Don't work too hard07:18
Minataku:307:18
purpleposeidongarrr, but I want just the windows key.... it wants a combo....07:19
Dr_willisMinataku,  company all JUST arrived... egads.. my quite house...07:19
Fr0depurpleposeidon: yeah, annoying, isn't it?07:20
Dr_willisdog is going berzerk07:20
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klapEspaol07:21
klapayuda en Espaol07:21
purpleposeidon!es07:21
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:21
Dr_willisnight all.07:21
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MinatakuI'm gonna head out, too07:21
icecruncherwhere is the sources file located?07:21
MinatakuNight, everyone ^^07:21
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icecruncheranybbody know why a toshiba satelite pro wont recognize the kubuntu live or alternate cd?07:24
user1__anyone suggest a good notebook? i want it small and light, long battery life, fast with 1G ram or above07:25
user1__anyone suggest a good notebook? i want it small and light, long battery life, fast with 1G ram or above, and cheap07:25
posingaspopularicecruncher: in the cd drive?07:25
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icecruncheryes07:25
icecruncherinide win they work, but not at boot07:25
icecruncher*inside07:25
emonkey-fuser1__, if you're inside the US, look for the Dell ubuntu laptop07:26
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purpleposeidonThose shortcuts are quiet useful...07:29
draikicecruncher: Do you have CD as a boot option higher than the HDD?07:30
icecruncherdraik: yes07:30
Fr0depurpleposeidon: yeah, I remapped Win+E to launch Konqueror07:30
draikI read about issues like these back in the release of Dapper07:30
rodrigo__does anybody knows how to change the spell check tool language in kword?07:30
Fr0depurpleposeidon: and Win+R for Konsole07:30
icecruncherdraik: it just worked, after restarting numerous times07:30
draikIt works now?07:30
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icecruncherdraik: yes07:31
purpleposeidonicecruncher: I have terrible trouble booting off of burned CD's, the cd's get all scratched up. Like magic, or something.07:31
draikWhat can I say? I have the power07:31
icecruncherhey, it was a shipped cd07:31
icecruncherkubuntu live07:31
icecruncherlol07:31
purpleposeidonmmmMMMmmmm07:31
draikI'm remastering my Kubuntu install...07:32
draikI think I shall call it...07:32
draikDraiKubuntu07:32
purpleposeidonI suppose my computer has some sort of eville microsoft firmware on it...07:32
purpleposeidondraik: that doesn't exactly roll off the tongue :b07:32
icecruncherwell, kind of07:33
Fr0depurpleposeidon: sure it does! pronounce like "Dry Kubuntu"07:33
draikIt's not supposed to. Not that I want it to or not, but it's my little piece of "accomplishment"07:33
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draikFr0de: Dray Kubuntu07:33
emonkey-ficecruncher, some laptop need a cold restart to start from a different media, just resart don't work with every laptop07:34
Fr0dedraik: close enough! :P07:34
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draikFr0de: Ehh... just saying.07:34
linux_user400354does anyone have experience with forwarding ports with ssh? i need some help. i haven been able to get it working.07:34
draikHow many MB is a remaster'd CD?07:34
Fr0delinux_user400354: what do you need?07:35
draikI'm at 440MB right now07:35
draiklinux_user400354: http://www.portforward.com07:35
Fr0dedraik: 70007:35
draiknuff said07:35
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martikNAAAAAAAAAVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED07:35
draikFr0de: Is it? I figure it would be less because it's not always a complete CD07:35
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martikSMORES WEEEEEEEEEEEEED07:36
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Fr0dedraik: oh, I misunderstood your Q.. :P07:36
martikNSTER WHERE THE FUCK ARE YA?07:36
posingaspopularmartik: stop. please07:36
draikI'm at 550MB right now07:36
martiksorry07:36
martikj looking for my friend07:36
purpleposeidonFr0de: You could look it up in the man pages. Somewhere between line 1 and line 650 :b07:36
nSTERlol..... shucks07:36
Fr0de!wtf | martik07:36
ubotumartik: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:36
purpleposeidonwt*?07:37
Fr0depurpleposeidon: lol07:37
martikhaha07:37
linux_user400354Fr0de: draik: im trying to setup port forwarding with ssh, not for ssh.07:37
martikSORRY07:37
martikPG-13 from now on07:37
martikswear07:37
martiknSTER so what's up?07:37
Fr0delinux_user400354: what have you tried?07:37
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purpleposeidonofftopic, that's what's up!07:38
draiklol @ purpleposeidon07:38
draikSorry linux_user40035407:38
purpleposeidon"SEE ALSO gzip, rsh, scp, sftp, ssh-add, ssh-agent, ssh-argv0, ssh-keygen, telnet, hosts.equiv, ssh_config, ssh-keysign, sshd"07:38
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nSTERQuestion, whenever I try to shut down my computer the screen is still on the desktop for a while before it actually shutsdown, then the screen goes black and i only see a little bit of the kubuntu bar going down, is that normal?07:39
purpleposeidon"BOOKS `Using SSSH`, O'RIELLY, ISB #...."07:39
posingaspopularnSTER: yes07:40
draikFr0de: Well, I passed the 700MB mark...07:40
draik720MB and going07:40
posingaspopularnSTER: but it depends on how long you're talking abbbut07:40
Fr0dedraik: you'll need a DVD for that, then07:40
draikFr0de: That's fine.07:41
icecrunchercrap, I just got an error during the install saying "Debootstrap error <br> Failed to determine the codename for the release." can anyone help?07:41
draikI just wish I knew when/where it will end so that I'm not sitting here twiddling my thumbs for a completion07:41
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draik820......07:42
nSTERposingaspopular I can like do things on my desktop while it is shutting down I just do not have the taskbar then the screen goes black for the majority of the time and i only see 5 seconds of the actual shutting down screen.07:42
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icecruncher!dualboot07:44
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)07:44
draikFr0de: Does this mean anything...07:45
draiksent 67442490 bytes  received 11336 bytes  2870375.57 bytes/sec07:45
draiktotal size is 67399289  speedup is 1.0007:45
Fr0dedraik: looks like rsync output07:45
Fr0dedraik: nothing to worry about, I should think07:46
intelikeyi was going to set up duelboot on this lappy but had to blank the hd  so no M$ for this thing.07:46
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Fr0deintelikey: I just got a lappy, wiped it and put Kubuntu on it straight away! :P07:46
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crazy_busdpkg and apt are broken.  dpkg --configure -a doesn't come up with any errors but doesn't fix the problem.  Here is a pastbin of some of the error messages; http://pastebin.ca/58976907:47
intelikeyFr0de this one is a few hours old07:47
draikFr0de: No, I mean towards remaster size07:47
Fr0dedraik: *shrug*07:47
draik1.27GB .......07:48
rodrigo_#koffice07:49
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rodrigo_hello any one use here koffice?07:49
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draik1.57GB....07:49
draikFun times07:49
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draikI really hope I don't have to use a DL DVD07:50
jussi01rodrigo_: i dont, but whats your problem?07:50
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rodrigo_jussi01: i want to change the spell checker language07:51
jussi01rodrigo_: ok, sorry, probably best to /join #koffice and ask there...07:52
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rodrigo_jussi01: yep thanks07:53
icecrunchercan somebody tell me how to boot a different os from a toshiba satellite pro? the kubuntu live and alternate still don't work07:53
draikicecruncher: Ubuntu? Xubuntu?07:53
nSTERHow can I enable file send in Kopete on AIM?07:53
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nSTERit is grayed out07:53
icecruncherdraik: Kubuntu07:54
draikNo, have you tried Ubuntu or Xubuntu?07:54
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icecruncherno07:54
draikJust a suggestion :)07:55
icecruncherdraik: the only sucessfuly booted cd is Hirens07:56
draikno clue07:56
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icecruncherdraik: it's a general system admin cd, nothing else works though07:57
draikFr0de: 2.0GB08:00
icecruncheri hate toshiba08:00
icecruncherlol08:00
Fr0dedraik: you have until 4.4GB ;)08:00
intelikeyis atheros ethernet supported ?08:01
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draikI'm surprised it got that high, but then again, I do overload my installs with 3 desktops.. 4 now...08:01
draikKubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu, well, 3 anyway08:02
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icecruncherdraik: why all 3?08:02
draikicecruncher: why not?08:02
draikChoice08:02
icecruncherdraik: hehe, true, as long as you got spae for it08:03
icecruncher*space08:03
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icecrunchersrry08:03
draik500GB hdd... I'm sure :)08:03
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icecrunchernice08:03
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roho!divx08:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:04
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rohoi have most codecs installed, but i can't seem to play divx stuff that plays in the browser08:05
draikI must admit...08:05
draikFeisty sure is faster than Edgy08:05
draikI'm buring 2GB in under 5 min08:06
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draikroho: I had the same issue... Don't ask, I forgot08:06
rohouh... ok.08:07
draikThe sad thing is that I had this issue about 1 month ago or so08:07
draikMaybe it was 2 weeks ago08:07
rohothe only thing worse than no one helping is someone telling you they can't help08:08
rohoheh08:08
draikI'm sorry08:08
rohoit's alright08:08
draikWell, it's my time to meet my user... Night all08:08
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nSTERSo does anyone know how to unblock file sharing in kopete in AIM?08:11
martik?QUESTION? I can't send files on Kopete AIM08:11
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martikHOW CAN I DO THAT?08:11
bob_sinclairdon't shout08:11
martiksorry08:11
martikcan you answer my Q though/08:11
bob_sinclairwhat is the behaviour08:12
nSTERit is grayed out08:12
icecruncher!patience | martik08:12
ubotumartik: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines08:12
martikwhy thank you for this useful information08:13
martik:D08:13
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icecrunchernSTER martik: you guys google it yet?08:13
nSTERyeah08:13
nSTERi couldnt find anything08:13
martikmhm08:13
nSTERsearched on kubuntuforums.org too08:13
martiko08:14
martiki didn't do tha08:14
martikill take nSTERS word fot iy08:14
bob_sinclairtry #kopete08:14
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bob_sinclairhttp://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=send+file+kopete+greyed+out&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-808:15
AmbientmstrHi, I have a kinda urgent problem. All my critical files are backed up onto a NTFS-formatted IDE drive. Fstab apparently has no entry for it, and it is not automounting. It is set on its own primary cable on cable select, but I don't think it makes a difference. Thing is, I can't see it in Windows either. I'm using Kubuntu Feisty, and here is a pastebin: http://www.pastebin.ca/589798.08:15
nSTERThank you bob_sinclair will give them a shot08:15
nSTERyeah bob08:15
nSTERnone of them are very useful08:15
bob_sinclairit could be a bug. check bugs08:15
bob_sinclair!bugs08:15
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots08:15
bob_sinclairnot useful to you maybe, useful to someone with intuition,yes08:16
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icecrunchernSTER: or it could be locked, god knows why, like the firefox update thingy08:16
bob_sinclairhttp://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14092408:16
bob_sinclairwhat version of kopete is it?08:16
nSTER.12.408:16
bob_sinclairthats why08:17
bob_sinclairyou need 1.008:17
martik?08:17
nSTERah08:17
martikok08:17
bob_sinclairas per the links i pasted08:17
martikthanx bob08:17
icecruncheryep08:17
bob_sinclairread next time :)08:17
nSTERseems like we need to wait for 4.0 thank you08:17
martik:)08:17
bob_sinclairgoogle is quite powerful08:17
martikk08:17
martikoh yeahs08:17
bob_sinclair!info kopete08:17
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 7108 kB, installed size 19632 kB08:17
martikall hail google08:18
martik*bows*08:18
AmbientmstrHi, I have a kinda urgent problem. All my critical files are backed up onto a NTFS-formatted IDE drive. Fstab apparently has no entry for it, and it is not automounting. It is set on its own primary cable on cable select, but I don't think it makes a difference. Thing is, I can't see it in Windows either. I'm using Kubuntu Feisty, and here is a pastebin: http://www.pastebin.ca/589798.08:18
bob_sinclairwtf08:19
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mikeGreets, everyone...08:19
bob_sinclairwhy does it say kopete is version 4 already?08:19
nSTERno08:19
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cjehi, I am a SuSE user how is moving to Edgy Kubuntu.  How do I use Konqueror to change the permissions on lots of directories and the files in those directories?  When I right-click on the directory, I cannot change permissions, because AFAIK, there is no way to use sudo in Kubuntu Edgy Konqueror, which means I would have to use the command line to change these permissions.08:19
bob_sinclairim on feisty and i don't see kopete 4 available08:20
nSTERIn the link you posted version 1 of kopete will be released with KDE 4.0 with those file sending enabled08:20
martikhmm08:20
martiki guess we have to wait untill KDE 408:20
icecrunchercje: hit al+F208:20
bob_sinclairoh yeah08:20
bob_sinclairbut ubotu is saying version 408:20
icecrunchercje: then type in "kdesu konqueror"08:20
bob_sinclairmaybe 4:3.5.6 means something else08:21
cjek08:21
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nSTERjust be its own version scheme08:21
bob_sinclairAmbientmstr: check sudo fdisk -l08:21
nSTERmust*08:21
martikmaybe if you put them in order....08:21
bob_sinclairnever seen it like that before08:21
cjeAnd that will make me a SU under Konqueror, right?08:21
martik3.4.5.6.08:21
martiknope still nothing08:21
icecrunchercje: then go to location , right click the main folder, go to the permissions tab08:21
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Ambientmstrbob_sinclair I already have. It just shows me all my partitions on my sda (main drive)08:21
icecrunchercje: yep08:21
bob_sinclairAmbientmstr: which is the one you want to mount?08:21
cjeicecruncher:  thanks tons!  I'll give that a try now.08:22
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icecrunchercje: then change the permission as you want, then select the small tick bock at the bottom saying applay to all sub folders dadada08:22
cjek08:22
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cjethx !08:22
Ambientmstrbob_sinclair: It isn't listed.08:22
bob_sinclairAmbientmstr: then it doesn't exist08:23
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icecrunchercje: np08:23
AmbientmstrAmbientmstr: What do you mean it doesn't exist? The drive is plugged in right now.08:24
Admiral_Chicagohey everyone. my network has been acting up lately. much slower performance that usual08:24
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icecruncherAdmiral_Chicago: fun fun08:25
Admiral_Chicagoit is possible to check though my router which IPs have been accessing08:25
Admiral_Chicagoicecruncher: sorry that was meant to be a question08:25
icecrunchernp. lol08:25
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icecruncherAdmiral_Chicago: depends what kind a router you got08:26
rohook, all i want to know is how to get divx movies to play in konqueror or firefox.  i've tried all the movie programs in the file assoc. for konq and no luck.  am i missing some software?08:26
mikeCan someone help me get a Zeroconf network set up? I keep getting "The Zeroconf daemon (mdnsd) is not running" when I click Network Services in Konqueror. Searched through the forums and couldn't find anything useful.08:26
icecruncherAdmiral_Chicago: try the DHCP table if you got oe08:26
Admiral_Chicagohmm, i did, it does active IPs only08:27
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icecruncherAdmiral_Chicago: you want all?08:27
icecruncherAdmiral_Chicago: no idea. lol08:27
mikeroho: You can play the files outside of a browser?08:27
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rohomike: no08:28
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flaccid!divx08:29
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:29
mikeroho: Run "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" from Konsole08:29
nSTERroho @ did u try mplayer's firefox plugin?08:29
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rohomike: already installed08:30
rohonSTER: tried to install mplayerplug-in, but apt-get won't let me, wants mozilla-mplayer instead08:30
nSTERyeah thats it08:30
nSTERit should work with all videos on stage6.com08:30
mikeroho: Hmm... You could try adding Seveas' repo. and getting w32codecs08:30
rohonSTER: apt-get won't let me install it!08:30
nSTERoh 2 seconds08:30
nSTERlet me see08:31
rohomike: do you have documentation on that?08:31
mikeroho: No, he means you WANT to install mozilla-mplayer ;-)08:31
mikeroho: That's the correct package08:31
rohoit's installed08:31
rohobut can't play those videos08:31
nSTERtry this08:31
mikeroho: Oh ok. seveas.imbrandon.com08:31
nSTERabout:plugins in firefox08:31
nSTERsee if it has mplayer in there08:32
mikenSTER: It's a codec issue. He can't play them outside of Firefox either. ;-)08:32
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nSTERoh08:32
mikeroho: Go here - seveas.imbrandon.com - that'll walk you through adding that repository08:32
rohowell, yeah, all that stuff is there nster.08:32
cjehi, I am a simple end user who is moving from SuSE to Edgy kubuntu.  I have an external hard drive attached via USB 2.0 to my Edgy Kubuntu box.  I would like to find out how much room for storage is available on that drive.  How do I do that please?08:32
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mikecje: Navigate to it in Konqueror, right-click -> Properties08:33
cjemike: thanks, I'll give that a try!08:33
mikeDoes anyone here have any experience with Zeroconf?08:33
mikecje: Np :-)08:34
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nSTERroho if i am not mistaken you need to enable divx support, go to apple trailers or something so you can get mplayer to player a video, then go into the config you should see enable DIVX support and you should be able to check mark it.08:34
rohomike: that repository doesn't seem to have anything to do with codecs08:34
nSTERit is disabled by default for some reason08:34
cjemike: that worked, thanks!!08:34
mikeroho: It contains w32codecs, which is most likely what you need08:34
mikecje: Np08:35
eagles0513875!w32codecs08:36
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs08:36
rohomike: uh, i don't think it does. all i see is a package called freenx08:36
rohoweird.08:36
mikeroho: One sec...08:37
mikeroho: What line did you add to your sources.list?08:37
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cjethanks to mike and icecruncher for helping me.  Good night to all of you!08:38
icecrunchercje: welcome08:38
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rohomike: i haven't added anything yet08:38
rohoi'm looking at the page08:38
rohoit only talks about one package, though08:38
rohowhich is about exporting X sessions08:38
mikeroho: Wrong page. ;-)08:39
brmassaGuys, im interested on test KVM. Can i use a old Athlon XP processor? Or it shuold be a virtualization-friend processor?08:39
rohooh08:39
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mikeroho: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/feisty-seveas/all/08:39
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rohoso after installing that w32 pkg, i should be able to see those videos?08:40
jussi01roho: should...08:40
mikeTheoretically, yeah. What's the website you're trying to look at? I can make sure for you if you want08:41
rohowill i be able to play in konqueror?08:41
rohook08:41
rohohttp://www.tv-links.co.uk/link.do/4/481/939/11461/1935208:41
rohothat's the stage6 link08:41
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rohoi installed the w32 pkg, still can't watch that clip in konqueror or firefox08:43
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brmassaAnyone here have any experience with virtualization?08:45
AscendedDanielhey guys, how to I configure what programs run when I start kubuntu?08:45
AscendedDanielbrmassa: yes, I've played around with vmware stuff08:45
mikeAscendedDaniel: Open ~/.kde/Autostart in Konqueror and drag and drop from the K Menu08:45
AscendedDanielthanks08:46
mikenp08:46
Lynourebrmassa: yes. Ask your real question for better results :)08:46
rohomike: so did it load?08:46
mikeroho: Nope. :-\08:46
rohoyeah08:46
rohomaybe you can't play those movies in linux or something08:47
rohobut that guy earlier seemed to have been confident08:47
brmassaI just want to know if a virtualization-ready processor should be used or i can use a ordinary Athlon XP?08:47
nSTERRoho08:47
rohonSTER: yes.08:47
nSTERfor some reason divx videos do not work properly in tv links08:47
nSTERwww.stage6.com try that08:47
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Lynourebrmassa: you do not need anything special from the processor in normal cases.08:47
AscendedDanielI've done virtualization well with Athlon XP08:47
nSTERsee if it works on the actual divx website08:47
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brmassawel... i read the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM tutorial. but i every time i do modprobe kvm-amd it says "Operation not supported"08:49
mikenSTER: That one plays fine in FF on this end, but not Konqueror.08:49
rohonSTER: it says "for linux support try mplayer"08:49
nSTERyeah i never got it working with konqueror08:49
nSTERhmmm weird08:50
rohoand then it takes you to their gay ass download the windows client08:50
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Ragolhi08:50
rohono, i tried that with firefox08:50
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Ragolany ideas why katapult isn't working as a calc in 7.04, I used it quite much in 6.1008:50
rohonSTER: so, does it work for you or not?08:50
mikeroho: MPlayer's not even coming up in FF when you go to www.stage6.com ?08:50
rohono08:51
rohoit says try mplayer08:51
Ragolis there some pkg missing, or is there some line in some conf file?08:51
brmassa(who can i write private messages here on Konvcersation/IRC ?)08:51
nSTERim having the same problem as you, it worked on ubuntu for me, 2 seconds trying to see what is the problem08:51
JucatoRagol: Alt+Space, Ctrl+C, Configure Katapult, then check if the Calculator Catalog is enabled08:51
nSTERit worked for mike08:51
Lynourebrmassa: if you mean how,  /msg nickname yourtexthere08:52
rohonSTER: it did?08:52
Jucatobrmassa: you need to register your nick to be able to send private messages in Freenode (this server)08:52
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maltronhey all - has anybody here experienced problems running the "time" command?08:52
mikeroho: And you have mozilla-mplayer installed, and closed and re-opened Firefox after installing it?08:52
brmassaand how can i register?08:53
RagolJucato: thanks! it wasn't checked for some reason... this helps a lot :)08:53
maltronI can't seem to pass options to time, nor can I redirect its output08:53
Jucato!register | brmassa08:53
ubotubrmassa: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration08:53
rohono08:53
nSTERgot it roho08:53
nSTERin konsole type this08:53
rohoit shows that video that they feature but in white it says "For Linux support try Mplayer"08:53
brmassa!register  | brmassa08:53
nSTER cd /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/08:54
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nSTERsudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in-dvx.xpt08:54
nSTERsudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in-dvx.so08:54
nSTERrestart firefox then enjoy08:54
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rohook08:54
rohoso it won't work in konqueror though, right?08:54
nSTERnope, never tried it and wont i use firefox anyways08:55
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nSTERi find the engine better on firefox08:55
rohook, it works in firefox08:55
rohoyeah, i know, but everything's integrated in konqueror08:55
mikeroho: I had to mess with the File Association and Plugin settings to get it to work in Konqueror. Don't remember exactly what I did though08:55
nSTERyeah in KDE 4 konqueror is being replaced with dolphin :O08:55
mikedolphin is strictly a file manager, right?08:56
nSTERyes08:56
nSTERa very good one too08:56
nSTERsimple , light weight08:56
rohomike: yeah, i've been messing there too.  do you remember messing with anything more than the .divx extension?08:56
rohoso no more integration, i guess08:56
Jucatoroho: what are you trying to do? (just came in)08:56
mikeI tinkered with it a little bit several months ago. Didn't really see anything great enough to pull me away from Konqueror08:56
rohoJucato: well, these guys helped me (THANKS!) get divx movies to play in firefox. now, if i could just get them to play in konqueror08:57
nSTERKonqueror is more like explorer imo08:57
mikeugh08:57
mikelol08:57
Jucatomike: because what you tried is ages old from the real thing in KDE 408:57
nSTERnp08:57
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Jucatoroho: what did you install to let the play in Firefox?08:57
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nSTER[02:54]  <nSTER> cd /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/08:57
nSTER[02:54]  --> Lattyware has joined this channel (n=Latty@host86-134-70-215.range86-134.btcentralplus.com).08:57
nSTER[02:54]  <nSTER> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in-dvx.xpt08:57
nSTER[02:54]  <nSTER> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in-dvx.so08:57
nSTERthose08:57
mikeJucato: I'll give it another look when KDE4 hits. I have a feeling I'll be sticking with Konqueror though08:58
rohoJucato: what nSTER said08:58
mikeDolphin doesn't do view profiles does it?08:58
JucatonSTER: next time, don't paste like that08:58
nSTERsorry....08:58
Jucatomike: it doesn't need to. it has only one profile: file management08:58
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mikeI use different view profiles FOR file management. ;-)08:58
rohoJucato: you wouldn't happen to know how i would do that in konqueror would you? because obviously, the codecs are there08:59
mikee.g., having 2-3 folders open in different split views08:59
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Jucatoroho: try this. go to Konqueror -> Settings -> COnfigure Konqueror -> Plugins -> Scan for new plugins08:59
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Jucatomike: then you will definitely be sticking to Konqueror. Dolphin can only split once08:59
rohothe plugin is listed09:00
rohohm09:00
rohoso if the plugin is listed, it should just work, right? i shouldn't have to set up a file assoc.09:01
Jucatoyes you don't09:01
nSTERIm off to hit the hay, goodbye everyone.09:01
Jucatoactually you shouldn't09:01
mikeJucato: Thanks for the tip.09:01
mikeG'nite09:01
rohoso it must be the way tvlinks handles redirects or whatever09:02
mikeroho: Just got the video on stage6.divx.com running in Konq.09:03
rohoexcellent09:03
rohothat's a good sign09:03
rohobecause i've noticed other sites that grab stuff from stage6 don't work09:03
mikeIt's a little screwed up, but it works09:03
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rohowhat did you dink with to make it work?09:04
brmassaAnyone knows why i keep gettin "Operation not supported" when i run "sudo modprobe kvm-amd"?09:04
brmassaIm trying to install KVM?09:04
brmassa!09:04
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Admiral_Chicagoanyone know how I can check why my network has been slow lately09:04
Admiral_Chicagoits OS indepent however09:04
mikeroho: Go to Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations, search for Divx, and under Embedding, add Embedded MPlayer for KDE for each file type09:05
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kAruPoKi accidentally entered from the grub the ubuntu recovery....how do i restart the pPC?09:05
rohoaha, i knew it had to do with embedding09:05
mikeroho: Actually, you could just do that for the whole Video group if you want.09:06
mikeI'm thinking that should cover all the formats09:06
rohook09:06
mikeActually, spoke too soon. Sorry. heh09:07
mikeThat option's not even there when a group is selected. :-\09:07
rohowell, i did it09:08
rohoand it works!09:08
rohoyou're right, it's a bit odd09:08
JucatokAruPoK: restart -r now09:08
mikeroho: The video isn't playing on the part of the page where it should be, right?09:08
kAruPoKok thanks09:08
rohomike: heh, no.09:08
rohobut, at least i can save video and such09:09
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: any idea about my network problem09:09
kAruPoKJucato: it doesnt work09:09
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: oh.. sorry.. networking idiot here09:09
JucatokAruPoK: you are in the command line right?09:09
kAruPoKyeah09:09
Jucatohow does it not work? what is is saying?09:10
kAruPoKcommand not found09:10
tmbgas soon as I mount my windows install (/dev/sda1) on /windows, the permissions switch to dr-x------ root/root, even if I mount rw.09:10
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: me too, I'm thinking of just dailing the phone company09:10
tmbghow can I mount it so that users can mess with it?09:10
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Admiral_Chicagoit started recently on my machines that I didn't change the configs of09:10
JucatokAruPoK: oh my bad... "shutdown -r now"09:11
kAruPoKok09:11
Jucatotmbg: you shouldn't be messing with NTFS drives/partitions directly anyway09:12
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Jucatothat's why normal users don't have regular rw access to NTFS partitions by default09:12
tmbgdid I ask for a lecture?09:12
Jucato!ntfs | tmbg09:12
ubotutmbg: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse09:12
tmbgI don't think I did.09:12
kAruPoKJucato: it worked now thanks09:13
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Jucatosheesh09:13
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Admiral_Chicagotmbg: words of advice: be more respectful to the volunteers here09:13
tmbgI don't want the thing mounted automatically.09:14
tmbgI want to do it once, from the command line.09:14
tmbgI'm sorry, but one of my pet peeves is asking a different question than the one asked.09:14
tmbg"what time is it?" "Oh I think it's going to rain today, actually" <-- wtf? maddening.09:14
Admiral_Chicagotmbg: sudo mount /dev/hda* (whatever the device is) /mount/point09:15
Admiral_Chicagoyou might need to add the -t flag in there09:15
tmbgyes, done.09:15
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tmbgit switches the permissions on me after it mounts, so that users can't access it09:15
tmbgthat was my original question09:15
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Admiral_Chicagoah okay i didn't read that09:16
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Admiral_Chicagomight want to do chmod 0777 /mount/point09:16
Admiral_Chicagoiirc, thats the command to use09:16
tmbgdr-x------   1 root root   4096 2007-06-19 01:52 windows (mounted) and drwxr-xr-x   2 root root   4096 2007-03-31 23:22 windows (unmounted)09:17
tmbgwtf is that? I did no chmod. why is mount changing the permissions of the mount point.09:17
tmbgyeah it's nice if people actually read and answer the question asked, but you can't win 'em all.09:18
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crimsunmount doesn't respect mount point permissions, nor does it need to, nor should it (semantically).09:19
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crimsuninstead, use the appropriate umask/fmask/dmask options.09:20
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tmbgI see. why shouldn't it follow mount point perms?09:20
crimsunin some instances, uid/gid is preferred to umask/fmask/dmask.09:20
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tmbgbecause they aren't explicitly set at mount time and a user could be careless?09:20
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crimsunbecause the mount point is not a pivot.  The volume/partition that you're mounting has permissions that must be allowed to override the mount point's.09:21
fritzhey, i'm running kubuntu and want to install windows on a separate disk...can any1 tell me how to set up the GRUB after...cause the windows MBR doesen't let you choose between  oss09:22
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Jucato!grub | fritz09:22
ubotufritz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:22
jussi01!grub | fritz09:22
jussi01lol09:22
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Jucatocrimsun: the options you can feed into "mount" are the same options you put in fstab right?09:23
crimsunyes.09:23
crimsunit's actually the reverse; fstab(5) honours mount semantics.09:24
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Jucatoso that portion in the AutomaticallyMountPartitions page, the one that tells how to make a partition accessible to everyone, say an NTFS partition, is actually useful right?09:24
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Jucatoheh fstab(5) :P09:24
crimsunwiki/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?09:24
Jucato!ntfs09:24
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse09:25
tmbgJucato, when I want to do it from the command line? no.09:25
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crimsunseems sensible to me, Jucato.09:25
Jucatocrimsun: thanks. just double checking :)09:26
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roho!dolphin09:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:26
Jucato!info dolphin | roho09:26
uboturoho: dolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1251 kB, installed size 2252 kB09:26
rohothanks09:26
rohoso will konqueror go away then?09:27
Jucatonope09:27
rohoJucato: you know of a page that talks about the future of kde? what they're aiming for?09:28
Jucatoroho: try to see the articles in http://dot.kde.org09:28
rohothx09:28
Jucatospecially the Road to KDE 4 and the Pillars of KDE articles09:29
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bengi_kanalda trk warm09:36
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tmbgumask 022 was what I needed. thankies09:45
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yeniklasorI forgot my bluetooth paired device password. How can I reset or change it?09:47
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se7endoese sombody know how to use scp    i loged on a remote box and would like to scp a folder from the local box to the remote09:49
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llutzse7en: man scp09:49
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crocodilehow did the writers of amarok forget to put an "open" button on the mini player... man09:51
Jucatocrocodile: huh?09:52
crocodilein amarok, when you use the mini player (not the full screen one) there is no button to "open"09:52
fritzhow do i burn a image that is like .iso.bz2 or .iso.gz cause k3b won't burn it to disk09:52
se7enllutz: I have done that and google but i cant get the command right ...09:52
crocodileonly stop/play/next/previous09:52
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Jucatocrocodile: because that's not how the "mini player" (a.k.a. player window) is supposed to work.09:53
llutzse7en: scp -r local/folder user@remote:path/09:53
Jucatocrocodile: it's supposed to be a clone of XMMS/Winamp, which also don't have an "open" button09:54
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crocodilejucato - yes they most definately do09:54
crocodileand why would you not include an open button, what possible reason would you 'not want it to work' that way?09:54
Jucatocrocodile: i guess that depends on the skin. I used Winamp on Windows. definitely no open button in the main player window. almost everything is right-click09:54
llutzse7en: use konqueror -> fish://user@remote-host        and copy by mouse09:55
crocodileno every single winamp skin has an open button I'm sorry mate but you're wroong09:55
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nixternalwinamp?09:55
crocodileas does XMMS , audacious, beep media player, and the rest09:55
nixternalwth is that09:55
Jucatonixternal: you're not helping! :P09:55
nixternaldon't know what it is ;p09:55
fritzany1...i want to write the grub super-disk but the image is .iso.bz2 or iso.gz....and i can't burn it....tryied saving it as iso but it doesen't work tht way either09:55
Jucatocrocodile: anyway, if you really want  to argue that there should be one, you can head over to #amarok and tell them about it09:56
crocodilethe argument that it doesn't have one is just wrong :X09:56
Jucatonot much we can do about it over here09:56
llutzfritz: bunzip2 bla.iso.bz209:56
nixternalif iso.gz then ->  gunzip *.iso.gz09:56
nixternalor what llutz just said for bz2 ;)09:56
nixternalor right click and extract09:56
fritzoh..so bz2 or gz is like rar in windows :-?09:56
llutzfritz: those are packers, yes09:57
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Jucatofritz: there's also rar in Linux... but basically yes...09:57
Jucatofritz: .zip, .rar, bz2, gz, .7z, etc. are compressed file formats/archives09:57
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fritzaha...gotcha...thnx:)09:57
nixternal.bz2 > .* :)09:57
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Jucatotsk tsk :)09:58
nixternalno, tsk tsk == emacs >>>>>> vi ;p09:58
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Admiral_Chicagobest way to share file over two computers that share a router?10:00
llutzAdmiral_Chicago: ssh/nfs10:00
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: luckily you are here so i don't repeat the question in -chicago10:00
Admiral_Chicagollutz: got a guide?10:00
nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: samba10:01
llutzAdmiral_Chicago: only german ones,sry10:01
llutz!ssh10:01
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/10:01
llutzAdmiral_Chicago: ^^10:01
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nixternalor what llutz said, but something tells me one pc is winblows10:01
llutznixternal: ssh/nfs work on windows aswell10:01
Admiral_Chicagoi saw the !nfs page, it was a bit over my head10:01
Admiral_Chicago!samba10:01
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: i'll read the guide10:01
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT10:01
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nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: sudo emacs -nw /etc/samba/smb.conf   set network to your network name; sudo apt-get install samba; enjoy!10:02
nixternals/emacs/with whatever you use10:02
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Admiral_Chicagowill do10:03
Admiral_Chicagonetwork == my essid?10:03
KomiaPoikacan someone help me with warnquota and exim?10:03
nixternalnetwork == mshome ;p10:04
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Kprofthreatw00t10:05
KprofthreatI got it workin10:05
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r3good day ... i run into couple trouble on a new feisty .. would you guyz help me out pls ?10:13
r3first of all .. since the updates.. my dial up.. dials in, yet browser would not respond (is that some firewall or what?)10:14
tmbgwhich browser?10:15
tmbgfirefox had some sort of issue where you had to disable some ipv6 stuff10:15
r3nothing reacts to the kppp - nor even the apt-get10:15
r3(there was also this anoying thing i had to uninstal brltty - kept disconecting my modem instantly(10:16
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MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!10:16
MilhousePunkRockI am trying to look at my /var/log/syslog but apparently it is too big after one your on Kubuntu so neither vim nor kate can open it...10:17
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arafatMilhousePunkRock: not even vim? how big is it?10:21
MilhousePunkRockarafat: I gave up on vim after 15 minutes of harddrive noise... Let me check the size10:22
MilhousePunkRockarafat: Holy sh... It's 1.1 GB !!!10:22
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pagMilhousePunkRock, have you tried opening it with  less  ?10:25
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MilhousePunkRockpag: OK, it seems I have grep'ed what I need from it... So what filesystem could my new external HDD have if it's not FAT and not NTFS...10:26
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pagMilhousePunkRock, are you sure, that it's formated to any FS at all?10:27
MilhousePunkRockpag: I am just checking the manufacturers site... I have never seen an external drive being unformatted when new...10:28
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axxorun some fdisk program and find out10:29
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waylandbillMilhousePunkRock: I've always seen the other way around.10:30
MilhousePunkRockI've also done a lot of reading on external drives, everyone complained they mostly come as FAT and need to be reformatted to NTFS (for windows use, of course), so that those Mac users can start right away too...10:31
mat1980MilhousePunkRock: give us the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/xxx   where xxx is the divice of your external drive10:31
waylandbillMilhousePunkRock: external flash or hard drive? If it's the latter, it's almost certainly without any fs.10:32
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MilhousePunkRockhttp://pastebin.ca/58990810:33
MilhousePunkRockMaxtor says the prepared the drive with one large NTFS partition... Does Kubuntu come with the ability to read NTFS out of the box?10:34
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tmbgI recall it doing so, but it won't autodetect it. you gotta tell it -t ntfs10:35
MilhousePunkRocktmbg: I tried that already, it says bad superblock or something. So either it's not really formatted, or it's corrupted... Maybe I should try at a Windows machine...10:36
tmbggood idea.10:37
axxontfs doesn't play to well with linux10:37
axxojust reformat it10:37
MilhousePunkRockIn the syslog it says: Not an NTFS volume10:37
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Ze_Mwhere is possible to get the source packages?10:37
MilhousePunkRockaxxo: I am not sure if I am going to keep it at all, so I might give up already... It's a little too noisy for my taste and for what I plan to use it...10:38
Ze_Mwhere is possible to get the source packages?10:39
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mat1980Ze_M: source packeges of what? however you have to enable the source repository, then look for the packages with src as suffix10:42
Ze_Mmat1980: im at http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/kde/kdebase10:43
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mat1980Ze_M: well, I was wrong. Look at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html10:47
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MilhousePunkRockOK, I am on the desktop machine now, where I have FUSE, so the drive gets mounted, but I can't access it anyway...10:59
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mat1980MilhousePunkRock: what drive?11:03
mat1980MilhousePunkRock: ok, I've found on history.11:04
mat1980MilhousePunkRock: give us the output of mount11:05
MilhousePunkRockmat1980: I've been here a few minutes ago, thought the guys who tried to help would remember me... Maxtor Personal Storage 3200 External USB HDD, claims to be ntfs formatted11:05
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MilhousePunkRockmat1980: /dev/sda1 on /media/disk type ntfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)11:05
MilhousePunkRockTheGateKeeper: Hey!11:06
TheGateKeeperMilhousePunkRock, hey how are you doing?11:06
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MilhousePunkRockTheGateKeeper: In general, OK... You?11:06
TheGateKeeperMilhousePunkRock, fine thanks11:06
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TheGateKeeperMilhousePunkRock, what distro(s) you running these days?11:08
mat1980MilhousePunkRock: ok, you have to mount the disk with umask=000 option, and probably with different filesystem type (I guess ntfs-3g, I'll search)11:09
MilhousePunkRockTheGateKeeper: Still Kubuntu on the Laptop, Feisty for quite some time already, and Gentoo on the desktop... I might swap Kubuntu for Xubuntu and Gentoo for Kubuntu though, when I am through with my exams11:09
mat1980!ntfs11:09
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse11:09
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MilhousePunkRockmat1980: That was all Gentoo's automagic here on the desktop. ntfs-3g is installed anyway11:10
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MilhousePunkRockmat1980: I got my girlfriend's horrible XP laptop here, let's see what it does there...11:11
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MilhousePunkRockmat1980: No problems in win...11:14
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icecruncheris it necessary to install windows first for a dualboot11:17
mat1980MilhousePunkRock: try mount -t ntfs-3g -o umask=000 /dev/xxx /media/yyy      change xxx and yyy properly11:17
icecruncher?11:17
MilhousePunkRockmat1980: So I guess I will reformat it in ext3 and see how it behaves there...11:17
TheGateKeepericecruncher, that is the easiest way to do it, I think it is possible the other way round but not recommended11:18
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tmbgicecruncher, yes. otherwise windows will overwrite your mbr and destroy your bootloader11:19
icecruncherTheGateKeeper: My installs keep crashing on my toshiba11:19
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TheGateKeepericecruncher, linux or windows?11:19
MilhousePunkRockmat1980: There we go...11:19
icecruncherkubuntu11:20
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icecruncherTheGateKeeper: is there any way to do it without crahing?11:20
icecruncher*crashing11:20
MilhousePunkRockmat1980: Apparently it was my fault, I tried to mount the device instead of the partition... o.O11:21
TheGateKeeperwell there is a google video showing what you need to do, the other option would be to put kubuntu (or windows come to that) in a virtual machine like Virtualbox11:21
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icecruncherTheGateKeeper: virtual is not an option, but what is that google vi?11:22
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TheGateKeepericecruncher, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-610449081131189823611:23
icecruncherthnks11:23
TheGateKeepericecruncher, yw :-) good luck11:23
icecruncherTheGateKeeper: any idea why every kubuntu installer somehow manages to crash at the partitioning part? I'm talking about past history too11:23
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TheGateKeepericecruncher, no not really, I would set up your partitions using gparted live cd & use the 'alternative' cd and tell it where you want things11:25
TheGateKeepericecruncher, pclinuxos is also very nice too, so you might want to try that11:25
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TheGateKeepericecruncher, if all your hdd is ntfs, then you need to shrink it so linux can have a swap & ext3 partition11:27
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dehmquick question, for some reason nothing is showing up in kicker.. the only way i can switch is via alt-tab11:28
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r3may i request help concerning compiz ? ( the channel compiz seems to be dead)11:29
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krautmoin11:29
icecruncherTheGateKeeper: anyways, got the kubuntu install finaly running, after 6 hours of sweat11:30
icecruncherlol11:30
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icecruncherTheGateKeeper: I must say that toshiba is horrible to install on11:30
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TheGateKeepericecruncher, may be you have driver problems idk11:31
icecruncherTheGateKeeper: well the installer kept giving me wierd problems both live and alternate11:32
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Gianfrixhi11:32
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metbsdcan someone take a look at my aptitude output: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/93662711:51
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dehmquick question, for some reason nothing is showing up in kicker.. the only way i can switch is via alt-tab ??11:53
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TeraDynedehm: you might have accidently gotten rid of your taskbar. Try readding it by right clicking on your panel and selecting add applet to panel. Find "Taskbar12:01
TeraDynein the menu and double click it12:01
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bob__what kind of thing is this?12:13
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axxoirc12:14
bob__im new12:14
bob__never messed with linux before12:14
lordofheathow to install nvidia drivers in kde?12:14
lordofheatSystem  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager12:14
bob__no idea12:14
lordofheatI don't have that in kubuntu12:15
axxosystem settings -> computer admin -> mon display -> hardware  ?12:15
lordofheataxxo: and where do I enable restricted drivers there?12:17
axxoconfigure the card, select it from the list12:17
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dehmTeraDyne, thanks much, i know i removed something but couldnt figure out wish12:23
dehmwhich12:23
TeraDynedehm: No problem. I've removed my taskbar before, too, so I know how frustrating it is.12:24
dehmi was like what the......12:24
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mneisenHi, could someone familiar with kernel upgrades, dpkg incantations and the like please have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484030 ? Thanks in advance!12:44
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_4strOyop yop12:49
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tdnHow do I get the sources for the new Amarok for Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn? On amarok.kde.org there is only sources for Edgy Eft.12:52
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pagtdn, apt-get source amarok   that should work :)12:53
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corneHi there12:57
pag!hi | corne12:58
ubotucorne: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:58
cornedoes anyone know a solution for some samba dependency errors?12:58
corneSetting up samba-common (3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2) ...01:01
corne/bin/sh: Can't open tail01:01
cornedpkg: error processing samba-common (--configure):01:01
corne subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 201:02
cornedpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of samba:01:02
corne samba depends on samba-common (= 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2); however:01:02
corne  Package samba-common is not configured yet.01:02
cornedpkg: error processing samba (--configure):01:02
corne dependency problems - leaving unconfigured01:02
cornedpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smbclient:01:02
corne smbclient depends on samba-common (= 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2); however:01:02
corne  Package samba-common is not configured yet.01:02
cornedpkg: error processing smbclient (--configure):01:02
pag!paste | corne01:02
ubotucorne: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:02
corne dependency problems - leaving unconfigured01:02
cornedpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smbfs:01:02
corne smbfs depends on samba-common (= 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2); however:01:02
corne  Package samba-common is not configured yet.01:03
cornedpkg: error processing smbfs (--configure):01:03
corne dependency problems - leaving unconfigured01:03
corneErrors were encountered while processing:01:03
corne samba-common01:03
corne samba01:03
corne smbclient01:03
corne smbfs01:03
corneE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)01:03
eagles0513875corne01:03
eagles0513875dont flood channel use pastbin.ca01:03
eagles0513875ull get kicked01:03
corneok.. i'm sorry01:03
cornedidnt know that01:03
eagles0513875its ok im just worning u even ubotu the bot gave u the heads up too01:03
eagles0513875corne u havent configured samba have u01:04
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eagles0513875corne01:04
cornewell i recently reinstall ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop01:04
eagles0513875ok01:04
eagles0513875run this !aptfix01:04
eagles0513875wait01:04
eagles0513875!aptfix |corne01:04
ubotucorne: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:04
cornewith the previous install i didnt have to configure samba01:05
eagles0513875use that command to finish install samba01:05
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eagles0513875ok well when u get an error like u did u need to run the command above01:05
eagles0513875!aptfix01:05
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:05
eagles0513875let me know if that helped any01:05
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cornesudo fuser .. wont help01:06
eagles0513875ok what is it asking now01:06
eagles0513875to configure it01:06
cornehe wont find command aptfix01:06
eagles0513875!aptfix01:07
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:07
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eagles0513875lol u need to put exclamation point in front of anythign if u want to ask him anything01:07
eagles0513875then try this corne sudo samba --configure01:07
cornebash: aptfix: command not found01:08
eagles0513875u using kubuntu or ubuntu01:08
eagles0513875dont type aptfix dude01:08
cornei type: !aptfix01:08
eagles0513875type just this01:08
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eagles0513875no that is only to be used in here if u want ubotu (bot) to tell u what something is01:08
eagles0513875look01:08
eagles0513875!samba01:08
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:09
eagles0513875ok01:09
eagles0513875in the shell type just this dude01:09
eagles0513875sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a01:09
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eagles0513875let me know if that helps01:09
cornestill same error01:10
cornehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27255/01:10
eagles0513875then try sudo samba --configure01:10
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cornesudo: samba: command not found01:11
eagles0513875samba --configure01:11
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cornebash: samba: command not found01:12
eagles0513875hold up let me check something01:12
pagcorne, try: sudo dpkg --congigure samba-common01:12
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cornewith dpkg --configure samba-common i get the error too01:14
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eagles0513875corne: download just the samba pkg cuz it also u looked like u were missing that dependency01:14
eagles0513875in shell do sudo apt-get install samba01:14
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cornei already try to install or even reinstall samba01:15
cornebut that wont help01:15
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eagles0513875corne there is a #samba channel i dunno what to tell u01:16
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corneit give me the same errors01:16
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cornei'll try it in #samba01:17
cornethanks for helping me01:17
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IcucDo you know how i set up grub in order to boot win XP raid 0 partition?01:18
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eagles0513875what u mean u want that as ur primary partition Icuc01:19
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amnesiachai guys01:28
cornehi01:28
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amnesiacdoes somebody knows how i burn my own distro01:29
eeoshi everybody01:29
amnesiac?01:29
eeoswhat on earth is "Unsupported Updates from the Updates tab of Manage Repositories."01:29
eeos?01:29
amnesiaci development my own kubuntu distro01:29
eeosthere is nothing of that sort in my kubuntu 70401:30
amnesiacnow i want to burn it on dvd01:30
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amnesiacits something like update in beta version i think "eeos"01:31
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tdnpag, sorry. I did not make myself clear. I do not want the *source files* for Amarok. I can just check them out from SVN. What I want it the sources for the /etc/apt/sources.list in Kubuntu, so that I can do an apt-get install amarok and get the newest version.01:32
eeosamnesiac: in what sense? do you have to have some adept package in beta version?01:32
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_4strOtdn ?01:33
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amnesiacyes ther are betas in adept version ? eeos01:33
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_4strOamarok | 2:1.4.6-0ubuntu1~feisty1 | http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/main Packages01:34
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amnesiacwhen you use the alien command you can make from any beta source file a debian adept install file i think01:35
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eeosamnesiac: then it is not 704, but something else if the package manager is in BETA state01:39
eeosamnesiac: I have the full 70401:39
eeosamnesiac: and there is no unsupported updates tab of any kind in adept01:40
amnesiaci get your point eeos01:41
amnesiacand when you use the konsole01:41
eeosamnesiac: and I have installed *ALL* the adept packages :(01:41
eeosamnesiac: :)01:41
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amnesiacand sudo apt-get update ????01:41
amnesiachahahaha lol01:41
amnesiacyou intalled all packages???01:42
eeosamnesiac: all the ADEPT packages!01:42
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amnesiacyou have one mean pc dude01:42
amnesiachahahah01:42
tdn_4strO, 12:53 #kubuntu: < pag> tdn, apt-get source amarok   that should work :)01:43
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amnesiachai maria01:43
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amnesiacso i dont either know about update pack... but wait now i get it ... hahahah01:44
amnesiaceeos ???01:45
amnesiacwhen you open adept ther is a little radio button01:45
eeostor: only if you wat the source01:45
eeosamnesiac: I do not think it should be suggested to use something that does not exist, that is what I am trying to say01:46
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eeosamnesiac: a radio button? where?01:47
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amnesiacyes but in the program from adept to install programs there is a radiobutton that calls unsuported software01:47
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eeosamnesiac: where?01:47
_4strOlol01:47
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eeosamnesiac: I do not see any radio button, anywhere01:48
_4strOthat's ,ormal for the unsupported sofware01:48
amnesiacopen kdesu adept_installer01:48
tdn_4strO, the problem is that if I use the backports source, I also get a new version of some other software packages. I *only* want to use the new version of Amarok. Not all the other things. I want my system to stay stable. I do not want to upgrade vital libraries and such.01:48
_4strOit's for ex: the packages provides by cannonicale01:48
eeosamnesiac: and?01:49
_4strOtdn: then dl the sources on the amarok website and install them ...01:49
eeosamnesiac: I do not see any rodio button anywhere01:49
_4strOeeos: think hee is in the depository manager01:49
amnesiacthere  is the button show unsupported01:50
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amnesiacand proprietary software01:50
eeosamnesiac: I have no such button anywhere01:50
Sannetdn: why don't you enable backports, install new amarok, and disable backports again?01:50
amnesiacweird01:51
_4strOamnesiac: what's weird ?01:51
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_4strOubuntu choose for you a list of package, but other packages could work but are not supposrted01:52
_4strOso ghe let you the choice ...01:52
amnesiacmy third harddrive mounts itself and unmounts itself again01:52
_4strOwhat is weird ?01:52
amnesiacjust like that01:52
amnesiacthats weird01:52
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_4strOamnesiac: you change the conversation ?01:53
Sanneamnesiac: unsupported means not directly supported by canonical. Those packages are made by the community.01:53
_4strOor i understand anything ...01:53
eeosamnesiac: if I use adept_manager (that is, the adept package to manage update)01:53
eeosamnesiac: there is nothing like that01:53
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_4strOeeos : adept / manage repository01:54
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eeosamnesiac: if I use the adept_installer I have a tick box for the proprietary software, but not way to manage repositories or updates01:54
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amnesiacok sanne then i am wrong01:54
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eeos_4strO: indeed01:54
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amnesiacyes eeos that i thought it was the unsuported updates01:54
Sanneamnesiac: wrong with what (sorry, I have anly half an eye on this chat window...)?01:55
eeos_4strO: amnesiac: I do no think so.01:55
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eeos_4strO: amnesiac: anyway! thanks very much for your help! I will solve it by downloading the packages directly,01:56
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amnesiacnp01:56
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julius_anyone able to reccomend me an app that will transcode 12 or so avi's to Mpeg2 and have menus so i can use it on my dvd player?02:23
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BluesKajHowdy All :)02:24
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rajkalyanhello02:30
rajkalyananyone home02:30
rajkalyanhello02:30
BluesKajhi02:31
rajkalyanhi02:31
TeraDynehi02:31
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rajkalyanhow do you change your color02:32
ubunturosrajkalyan: which color?02:33
rajkalyanfor the font02:33
rajkalyani dont want vlack02:33
rajkalyanblack02:33
Jucatowhere?02:33
rajkalyanfor the font02:33
Jucatoyes but where? everything? in a certain app? where?02:33
rajkalyanno on here02:34
rajkalyanmine is black02:34
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rajkalyani want something elsae02:34
Jucatoin Konversation (IRC/chat app)?02:34
rajkalyanelse02:34
ubunturosah, he means the IRC client he's using02:34
rajkalyanyes02:34
Jucatorajkalyan: Settings -> Configure Konveresation -> Colors02:34
rajkalyansweet02:35
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rajkalyanhow do i change the <rajkalyan>02:36
rajkalyancolor02:36
rajkalyanhello?02:36
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Jucatohm?02:37
rajkalyanill be back02:37
ubunturosrajkalyan: do a bit of reading.02:37
rajkalyanwhy02:37
Jucatorajkalyan: same location. look at the options02:37
hilaryHey everyone, is anyone having problems signing into MSN on Kopete or Gaim?02:37
rajkalyanokay it mnot gtttere02:37
TeraDynerajkalyan: Under the colors tab, there should be a section called "colored Nicks. It's the "Own Nick Color" option.02:37
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zombielionhow can i remove installed windows programs on wine02:37
rajkalyanoh02:37
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rajkalyanSUCCESS!02:38
TeraDynehilary: Nope. No problem here.02:38
rajkalyanlateer02:38
hilarystrange, when I try to connect to msn on kopete, it says "There was an error while connecting to the MSN server. Error Message: Operation is not supported02:39
hilaryany ideas what thats about?02:39
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TeraDynehilary: what version of Kopete are you using? You can find out using Help > About Kopete02:40
roy_does anybody know how to watch tv with a pinnacle pctv sat ci?02:40
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hilaryit says I am using Kopete 0.12.4 (Using KDE 3.5.6) if that helps :)02:41
PythHiya02:41
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PythI can't seem to download packages >< 9Yes I tried seraching forums for an answer :P) Basically it says something about how chabges can't be applied02:43
BluesKajroy, just hook up your sat video and audio feeds to your tv card and install tvtime02:43
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hilaryis no one else having problems with signing into MSN with Kopete then? :S02:45
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eagles0513875hilary02:45
BluesKajPyth, what packages are you looking at?02:45
eagles0513875use pidgin instead02:45
LamingtonCan someone help me02:45
LamingtonI'm so frustrated02:45
eagles0513875just ask lam02:45
eagles0513875hilary pidgin is so much better than kopete02:45
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PythI'm looking at a lot of them, mainly GNOME (I wanted to try it out)02:46
Tm_Teagles0513875: stop02:46
hilaryok thank you :) ill try it02:46
LamingtonIm trying to get Feisty to work with my nvidia fx 520002:46
eagles0513875hilary02:46
eagles0513875what Tm_T02:46
Tm_Thilary: what problem you exactly have?02:46
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BluesKajPyth, have you tried adept ?02:46
Pythrunning the --configure -a command tells me some file doesn't exist, if that heps02:46
PythI'm on adept02:46
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LamingtonI've been using kubuntu since breezy and Ive never had this kind of trouble getting kubuntu to work with my fx520002:47
hilaryTm_t: Kopete just doesnt let me sign into MSN messenger, it says something cannot be supported? been happening for about 2 days now02:47
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BluesKajyou don't need to run configure commands in adept02:47
Tm_Thilary: interesting, can you provide pic of that error?02:47
PythNo but it was a solution to my earlier problem with something using the database02:47
hilaryill need to get the error up again =P I just closed it02:47
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Pyththe solution to that problem showed me some fle was missing and llet me apply changes, but then it said packages were broken and stuff02:48
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BluesKajdo you have synaptic installed , Pyth?02:49
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PythNo02:49
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PythxD Is it better? Should I install it?02:49
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LamingtonDoes anyone know02:49
BluesKajInstall synaptic , it will help you roll back to a stable state with it's 'fix brokenpkgs' option02:50
eagles0513875Lamington: u trying to instal glx02:50
Lamingtonyes02:50
Lamingtonnothing works02:50
eagles0513875go into the pkg manager and install the legacy driver search for nvidia02:50
Lamingtontried02:50
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PythThank you xD Now how can I get it? Obvously Adept won't wok, is there another option?02:50
eagles0513875nothing02:50
Lamingtonnothing02:50
Admiral_Chicagonvidia-glx-legacy iirc02:51
eagles0513875this is in feisty02:51
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Admiral_Chicago!info nvidia-glx02:51
Lamingtonfeisty02:51
ubotunvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1:1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-16.28 (feisty), package size 4386 kB, installed size 13352 kB02:51
Admiral_Chicago!info nvidia-glx-legacy02:51
hilarythe errors just come up, just saying "There was an error while connecting to the MSN server. Error message: operation is not supported"02:51
ubotunvidia-glx-legacy: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.7184+2.6.20.5-16.28 (feisty), package size 2992 kB, installed size 9780 kB02:51
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: they have to be careful which driver they install. their card must be supported by that driver02:51
eagles0513875Lamington: just download the binary in the repository02:51
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: i know it.02:51
Jucato!info nvidia-legacy-new02:51
ubotuPackage nvidia-legacy-new does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:51
Jucatostupid me!02:51
Tm_Thilary: anyway, I'm quite sure the problem is in MSN server side, as usual02:51
Jucato!info nvidia-glx-new02:51
eagles0513875Tm_T: i have no problems logging into it on pidgin02:52
Jucatolegacy-new! lol an oxymoron..02:52
Tm_Teagles0513875: I have no problems in Kopete02:52
hilaryso theres nothing I can do then :(02:52
ubotunvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-16.28 (feisty), package size 4719 kB, installed size 14400 kB02:52
Admiral_Chicagoyou'll want to read the pages where the driver is found. I have a GeForce 5200 Fx, it uses the glx driver iirc02:52
Tm_Thilary: well, there might be02:52
eagles0513875hilary: u could try pidgin to c if u get same msg but ull have to compile from source02:52
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LamingtonAdmiral_Chicago: which one works with the 5200fx ?02:53
hilaryI'm quite new to Linux =P so I'm not sure what compile from source means =(02:53
eagles0513875do u want to try pidgin02:53
eagles0513875!source02:53
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html02:53
eagles0513875!pidgin02:54
hilaryI'll try anything lol02:54
ubotupidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.02:54
Admiral_ChicagoLamington: iirc, the -glx one, i'd double check but that computer is broken ATM02:54
Tm_Tuh oh02:54
Lamingtonnvidia-glx toasts my x.org02:54
MegloWhat exactly happens when I set a partition to an "active" partition? Is it just a boot flag?02:54
eagles0513875hilary go to the #pidgin chanel02:54
eagles0513875they will help ya compile it fromthe source code02:54
Tm_Teagles0513875: you're irritating, you know02:55
Lamingtonhave to boot recovery mode and restore old xorg.conf after enabling nvidia-glx02:55
JucatoLamington: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html02:55
eagles0513875Tm_T: all im doing is helping someone who is willing to try just bout anything02:55
TeraDyne!compile | hilary02:55
ubotuhilary: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)02:55
JucatoLamington: according to that, your card is supported by the 9755 driver, so that would be nvidia-glx-new02:55
Tm_Teagles0513875: yes, well, you push it02:55
LamingtonJucato: hmm ok02:56
LamingtonJucato: Im sure I tried it but I'll try again02:56
Tm_Thilary: when you get the error pic to me, we might try one setting that might help in this02:56
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Tm_Teagles0513875: I know you mean good, but you're too agressive with your "worksforme"02:56
daquinowhy doesn't dmesg show any output when i plug in my usb mouse02:56
daquinowhy do i need to reboot for it to work02:56
TeraDyneeagles0513875: Tm_T has a point. Are you a Pidgin dev or something?02:56
eagles0513875no02:57
zombielionhow do i uninstall a program that i installed using wine02:57
eagles0513875then from now on ill just keep my mouth shut02:57
Tm_Twheeee (:)02:57
Tm_Teagles0513875: please don't ;)02:58
eagles0513875lol02:58
Tm_Teagles0513875: but listen others too02:58
TeraDyneeagles0513875: maybe you should be working for their marking team02:58
eagles0513875lol02:58
Tm_TTeraDyne: stop02:58
TeraDynemarketing*02:58
eagles0513875hilary u still here02:58
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hilaryyep02:59
eagles0513875use pastbin.ca to paster ur error in there then just copy the link ovr here02:59
LamingtonDo I need to edit my xorg at all after installing nvidia-glx-new ?02:59
TeraDyneTm_T: I'm being truthful. I think that, with his enthusiasm, he'd probably be able to help them quite a bit02:59
eagles0513875lol02:59
Tm_TTeraDyne: true, but it slips to offtopic and/or insult in some cases (;02:59
eagles0513875!pastbing | hilary03:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:00
eagles0513875!pastbin | hilary03:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:00
BluesKajhi Tm, I recently undid the cpu power saving daemon ( the cpu rate controller) in the false hope of making my pc run faster , but i don't see any difference03:00
hilarypastbin.ca?03:00
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eagles0513875!pasetbin | hilary03:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pasetbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:00
TeraDyneTm_T: Sorry03:00
hilaryoohhhhhhhh paste bin, got it03:00
eagles0513875ya03:00
eagles0513875Tm_T:03:00
TeraDyne!pastebin03:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:00
eagles0513875she is goign to pastebin her error03:00
Tm_Tyay03:01
hilaryso I just type the error into paste bin, I give you the link and you nice nice people help me out? =) sounds like a plan03:01
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eagles0513875hilary:03:01
Tm_Thilary: yup, sounds good03:01
eagles0513875more like just copy and paste03:01
Tm_Teagles0513875: har, you lean to enter03:01
hilarycopy and paste even =)03:01
DakokiHi!03:02
eagles0513875Tm_T: sry bout being pushy i just broke up with my gf and im just really miserable and depressed and want to curl up in a corner and die lol03:02
Tm_Tif Kopete can't connect in any way (those msn evils) then some other client might connect or not, it's roulette then03:02
DakokiIm trying to install compiz-fusion03:02
hilaryaaww =( (hugs eagles) =P03:02
Tm_Teagles0513875: no problems03:02
eagles0513875lol03:02
Dakokii have some problems with ./compizfusion install03:02
eagles0513875Tm_T: that is y i brought her back in her to try the thing u had in mind to try03:02
Dakokisomeone knows something?03:03
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Tm_Theh03:03
eagles0513875!compiz-fusion03:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:03
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TeraDynehilary, Tm_T, eagles0513875: I found one bug in the Kopete bug tracker, though it's for the previous version. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13744303:03
Lamingtonnothing03:03
Lamingtonopengl screensavers dont work03:03
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eagles0513875if she hasnkelyt update which is probably the case she has the previous version of it most li03:03
Tm_TTeraDyne: I know that, doesn't matter03:03
hilaryhttp://pastebin.ca/59022203:04
Dakoki!compiz-fusion03:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:04
hilarydoes that work?03:04
eagles0513875what if she hasnt updated she is probably running the one with the bug03:04
eagles0513875yes it does03:04
eagles0513875hillary do u have a shell open still03:04
hilaryi do03:04
BluesKajTm_T,, in case you missed my question above : I recently undid the cpu power saving daemon ( the cpu rate controller) in the false hope of making my pc run faster , but i don't see any difference . How do i restore the cpu rate controller daemon ?03:04
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Tm_Thilary: awww, that's bad03:04
Tm_TBluesKaj: no idea =)03:04
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eagles0513875type this hilary sudo apt-get update03:04
LamingtonIf nvidia-glx-new is the correct choice for my fx5200 then do I have to edit my xorg.conf now ?03:04
rajkalyanhello03:04
oslohi03:05
BluesKajok Tm_T :)03:05
eagles0513875and what version of kopete r u running03:05
Lamingtoncause i have no opengl03:05
oslodo u have an TI ACX 111 wifi chipset, & do u sucess to use WPA ??03:05
Tm_Thilary: yup, server buff, anyway, check msn account setting,s turn on http mode03:05
hilaryok hold on03:05
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hilaryOK i am using Kopete 0.12.403:05
hilaryand http mode... (Searches for it)03:05
eagles0513875ok that is interesting that seems to be the latest version03:05
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eagles0513875like tm said check ur account details and password03:06
hilaryHTTP mode is ticked03:06
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rajkalyanwho is on kubuntu03:06
JucatoLamington: make sure "nvidia-glx-new" and "linux-restricted-modules-generic" are installed. then run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" (backup xorg.conf first), then restart/start X03:06
eagles0513875is this an at home machine or a machine at work03:06
modjoim on kubuntu03:06
modjohi every body03:06
LamingtonJucato: ok03:06
rajkalyan which one03:06
hilaryhome03:06
eagles0513875feisty03:06
rajkalyanedgy or feisty03:06
eagles0513875ok03:06
rajkalyanim on edgy03:06
Tm_Thilary: ok, ticked, reconnect?03:06
hilaryreconnecting now =)03:07
rajkalyanlap or desk03:07
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hilarynope03:07
Tm_Thilary: same?03:07
hilaryI didnt even get the error that time03:07
Tm_Thum03:07
eagles0513875hilary type this03:07
eagles0513875sudo apt-get update and see if u have any packages that need updating cuz i have a feeling there probably r and one of those packages will fix the problem03:08
rajkalyancan some body help me03:08
rajkalyani need help03:08
eagles0513875rajkalyan: laptop running feisty x86_6403:08
eagles0513875raj just ask away dude03:08
rajkalyancool03:08
rajkalyanmine is a laptop03:08
eagles0513875same here dude03:08
rajkalyanintel pentium 203:08
Tm_Thilary: one trick, raise server port by one03:08
eagles0513875nice03:08
rajkalyan mobile version03:08
Tm_Thilary: and keep http mode03:08
eagles0513875wow thats ancient lol03:08
Tm_Tmode/method03:08
eagles0513875whats ur problem rajkalyan03:09
hilaryraise server port by 1? ok03:09
rajkalyani retracted my taskbaar and i cant extend it03:09
eagles0513875what u mean retracted03:09
rajkalyanits in the side of my desktop03:09
hilaryraised it by 103:09
rajkalyani retracted it03:09
Tm_Thilary: and reconnect03:09
eagles0513875u mean u made it hidden03:09
rajkalyanto the side03:09
hilarytrying but doesnt look like there is any luck03:09
rajkalyanyeah03:09
hilarynope no luck03:09
Tm_Tbah03:10
eagles0513875does it come out when u go near it like u can in windows03:10
rajkalyanthe other bar hides the arrow03:10
rajkalyanno03:10
rajkalyanyes03:10
rajkalyanyes03:10
eagles0513875yes to what03:10
eagles0513875it comes out03:10
Tm_Thilary: evil, that problem might be gone tomorrow :p03:10
eagles0513875lol03:10
rajkalyani fixed it thanks anyway03:10
eagles0513875no prob03:10
rajkalyansorry for bothering you03:10
hilaryawwwwww but tomorrows ages away =P03:10
eagles0513875no bother whats so ever03:10
daquinoubuntu sucks03:10
daquinoi cant even plug in my dam usb mouse03:11
Tm_Thilary: ok, install gaim and try it (gaim is older version of pidgin and it's in repos so no need to compile)03:11
eagles0513875hilary in the mean time u coudl download the amsn pkg03:11
rajkalyankubuntu rocks03:11
eagles0513875wait tm03:11
rajkalyangoddamnm usb03:11
rajkalyangodgodgod03:11
rajkalyangod03:11
rajkalyango03:11
rajkalyand03:11
rajkalyanogodgod03:11
rajkalyangodogodfgodfg03:11
rajkalyanodf03:11
rajkalyanogodfomg03:11
hilaryTm_T: I tried Gaim before, it didnt let me sign in03:11
rajkalyaninkow03:11
Tm_Thilary: aww03:11
hilaryit just sorta froze and did the same as Kopete03:11
daquinodmesg doesn't even make a sound when i plug it in... whatever you guys did its on crack03:11
eagles0513875for me it used to crash03:11
rajkalyani didnt let me either03:11
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modjo_i have trouble opening adept installer, it says another process is using apt-get or aptitud03:11
eagles0513875!aptfix03:11
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:12
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Tm_Thilary: hrr, then, ah, only trick I can figure out IS to use some webclient03:12
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Tm_Thilary: that means website03:12
icecruncherhey, how can I use a ethernet card on a laptop?03:12
eagles0513875Tm_T: there is another program that she can try if she is up for it03:12
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hilaryI've been using Ebuddy which is ok, but it just sucks that I cant use my own messenger :(03:12
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Tm_Thilary: interesting03:12
hilary(worries) =P03:12
eagles0513875u only have an msn messenger account hilary03:12
Tm_Teagles0513875: don't tell me this starts with 'a'03:13
eagles0513875lol ya03:13
rajkalyanhey eagles you wanna go to my blog03:13
eagles0513875amsn lol03:13
eagles0513875what is it a blog of03:13
rajkalyanfreewebs03:13
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hilaryI tried installing that too ages ago, can't remember what issue I had03:13
rajkalyanits got music at the homepage03:13
eagles0513875raj port it ovr here to www.x10hosting.com take a look at that03:13
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rajkalyanwhy i like mine03:13
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rajkalyanit gives me a website too03:14
LamingtonJucato: IT WORKED !03:14
eagles0513875lol look at the pkgs they r all free03:14
eagles0513875how much space03:14
Lamington:D03:14
Jucato:)03:14
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LamingtonHUZZAH !03:14
rajkalyana lot03:14
rajkalyanidk how much03:14
JucatoLamington: checked with "glxinfo | grep render"?03:14
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eagles0513875try it again hilary it worked perfectly for me while i was trying to figure out how to compile piding03:14
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rajkalyanunlimited i guess03:14
LamingtonJucato: i just tried an opengl screensaver03:14
modjo_!aptfix03:14
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:14
Jucatook :)03:14
eagles0513875is that helping modjo_03:15
icecruncheranyboy?03:15
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modjo_im trying it03:15
Lamingtonbut I'll make a note of glxinfo | grep render03:15
modjo_wait03:15
Tm_Ticecruncher: plug and play?03:15
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Arwenhow can I use sudo with output redirection?03:15
icecruncherTm_T: network card03:15
eagles0513875Tm_T: if she only has an msn account and if it works y go through the hasell of compiling03:15
rajkalyananyone wanna visit my blog03:15
eagles0513875hilary u there03:15
Arwene.g. when I do sudo somecommand > /var/somefile, it says permission error03:15
Arwenanyone?03:15
hilaryIndeed I am eagles03:16
eagles0513875ok u want to try amsn03:16
Tm_Ticecruncher: yes, if it works ootb then thats it, if not, you need to find drivers to it03:16
eagles0513875actually before u do that03:16
LamingtonJucato: Now to install Tremulous :D03:16
Tm_Teagles0513875: true03:16
hilaryI'm concerned with Tm_T's concern =P03:16
Arwen...03:16
eagles0513875bout what amsn03:16
Tm_Thilary: no need to, personal03:16
modjo_afeter like 3 trys.... it did work eagles!03:16
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eagles0513875hilary answer me this do u only have an msn account03:16
Tm_Tjust try amsn if it works you ;)03:16
JucatoArwen: sudo only works on the somecommand. you still don't have access to /var/somefile03:16
eagles0513875ok modjo glad i could help03:16
modjo_that was tough03:16
eagles0513875lol03:17
ArwenJucato, how do I work around that?03:17
hilarydo you mean as opposed to having accounts with other messengers, eg, AIM, Yim etc?03:17
eagles0513875ya03:17
modjo_tnx all you guys here, make this a lot easier03:17
modjo_specially you eagles03:17
hilaryI've got an AIm and YIm account03:17
eagles0513875lol03:17
modjo_take care and have a nice day :D03:17
eagles0513875ok then forget amsn03:17
eagles0513875u too03:17
modjo_c ya03:17
hilarywhy, what would of happened? out of interest =P03:17
eagles0513875im going ot have to help u compile pidgin from source03:17
LamingtonThankyou Jucato for your help, I've saved it in a textfile so I dont forget :)03:17
Tm_Thilary: just use amsn for msn03:17
eagles0513875amsn is only a msn messenger client03:17
hilarykk03:18
Arwendamn it, apt should have an easy way to get rid of stuff installed buy apt-get build-dep,,,03:18
Tm_Teagles0513875: he canuse Kopete for other protocols you know03:18
eagles0513875pidgin is like gaim but its the replacement for gaim03:18
JucatoArwen: try this http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/05/17/using-tee-to-write-to-files-and-the-terminal/03:18
rajkalyancan you help me install audio/video pluging for firefox03:18
eagles0513875i know but if she is having trouble with that one u might as well port the others while ur at it03:18
Tm_Toh well03:18
Tm_TI believe he can login to msn using Kopete tomorrow or atleast next week03:18
eagles0513875!register | hilary03:19
ubotuhilary: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration03:19
Arwenrajkalyan, ...we could... but why?03:19
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eagles0513875it seems though like she cant wait03:19
Tm_Tit's not new thing that msn breaks03:19
Arwenmedia player plugins are stupid03:19
hilaryI can wait03:19
eagles0513875oh03:19
Tm_Teagles0513875: so, he uses something temporary ;)03:19
hilaryI'll wait =) I'm good03:19
Tm_The/she/whatever03:19
hilaryill use a web one or something =)03:19
ArwenJucato, thanks03:19
hilarythank you anyway eagles =D =)03:19
ArwenJucato, so I do sudo comecommand | sudo tee somefile ?03:19
eagles0513875i got the impression u couldnt  earlier when u said its so far away03:19
Tm_Thilary: oki, poke me if it doesn't work friday or so03:19
eagles0513875same with me03:19
hilaryhaha =P03:20
eagles0513875unless u would rather hit me up on aim yim or msn lol03:20
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hilaryok prepare for the poking of your life! =)03:20
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JucatoArwen: I think so. I don't really know. haven't tried it. that's from a post in Planet Ubuntu03:20
eagles0513875:)03:20
eagles0513875i will to hilary lol03:20
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eagles0513875hilary its nice to finally see a lady in thsi channel03:20
Tm_Teagles0513875: there's many03:20
eagles0513875not many that like to play round wiht linux lol03:20
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hilarylol03:20
Tm_Teagles0513875: so false ;)03:20
eagles0513875lol really but do alot of them help troubleshoot stuff like we do03:21
eagles0513875lol03:21
Sanneeagles0513875: well, there are some more of us here :)03:21
eagles0513875i dont seem to run into many03:21
eagles0513875lol03:21
eagles0513875:)03:21
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Tm_Teagles0513875: there's no need to make noise about it03:21
eagles0513875no noise was intended03:21
Tm_Tyup03:21
eagles0513875and im sorry if i offended lol03:21
Tm_Tyou didn't03:21
Tm_Tbut that doesn't make good either I afraid03:21
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eagles0513875hilary have u tried the new yahoo web msngr which is in beta but i like so far03:22
Tm_T!offtopic03:22
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eagles0513875lol03:22
hilarynope03:22
eagles0513875ty Tm_T03:22
rajkalyanhow do i become a member03:22
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Arwenis someone here compiling pidgin? lol03:22
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eagles0513875i already did arwen03:22
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eagles0513875i can link u on how to do it03:22
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Arwen!ops03:22
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Tm_TBAH!03:23
Jucatobah too slow.. :(03:23
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Arwenspeaking of delayed action..03:23
eagles0513875arwen u wanting to compile pidgin or something03:23
Arwennope, I found a repository with pidgin in it03:23
Arwennot that I use it, but..03:23
eagles0513875really03:23
Arwenyes03:23
eagles0513875i know its not in the kubuntu repositories and they have it out for other distros but for kubuntu they havent made a pkg so i compiled it from source03:24
Arwenyeah, but there's third-party repositories with that kind of stuff03:24
Arwenhmm, I still have 2 local packages...03:25
eagles0513875dont u have to be careful that it wont break anything03:25
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Arwenyes, I'm not going to try dist-upgrading to gusty03:25
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eagles0513875what u mean is it even out for testing yet03:26
Arwen...03:26
Arwenwhat I mean is that if you add third-party repositories, that usually breaks upgrades03:26
Arwenso when gusty is released in the *future*, I won't be dist-upgrading03:26
eagles0513875oh ok03:27
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eagles0513875u just do clean install03:27
Arwenhttp://www.telemail.fi/mlind/ubuntu/ - this is the repository I got pidgin from btw03:27
Arwenand yeah, clean install ftw03:27
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eagles0513875what i dont get is when something is ready to be released could they just release an updated pkg03:27
Arwenthe reason that doesn't happen is because then we have to support both the old and the new version03:28
eagles0513875ahhhh ok03:28
eagles0513875Arwen: u a developer03:29
Arwennope, I'm just reading answers from the FAQ03:29
Tm_Thah03:29
Arwen:-)03:29
eagles0513875lol03:29
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Tm_TArwen: what faq? so I can answer too some day (;03:29
eagles0513875i cant wait to take a c++ class in the fall03:30
Arwen!faq03:30
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ArwenI think03:30
Tm_Taa oki03:30
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[sqrts] benhi guys, i'm trying to install Kubuntu 6.06-1 i386 on a core 2 duo CPU and i get an error message "Failed to allocate mem resource.." after the setup is booting the kernel03:32
[sqrts] benany ideas?03:32
icecrunchercan anyone tell how to get an accton ether net card running, type 232803:32
ardchoille[sqrts] ben: Any particular reason you are installing 6.06 on that box rather than 7.04?03:33
eagles0513875sqrts isnt there also an i686 iso for download03:33
eagles0513875as well03:33
[sqrts] benit worked fine before, that's the strange thing03:33
Arwenicecruncher, ..........03:34
[sqrts] benardchoille: but no, other than "it worked fine before" there is no reason not to install 7.0403:34
ardchoille[sqrts] ben: Ah, ok. Just wanted you to know that 6.06 was released a year ago and 7.04 is the latest.03:34
ardchoille[sqrts] ben: You might try 7.04 and see how it goes, it's likely the problem has been fixed.03:34
[sqrts] benk, thx ... don't have a blank CD here so i  have to walk to my office.. stinks :P03:35
eagles0513875lol do u have a rw round [sqrts] ben03:35
[sqrts] benat home, yes03:36
[sqrts] benhere, no :>03:36
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eagles0513875u at the office lol03:36
[sqrts] benmore like the university03:36
ardchoille[sqrts] ben: Buy one of those cd wallets and carry kubuntu with you :) You can also carry a couple blank cd's/dvd's. I also carry a copy of SysRescCd03:37
ardchoilleOr maybe a 1Gb USK key03:38
[sqrts] beni don't walk around reinstalling OSes all the time :P03:38
ardchoille*USB03:38
ardchoillealmost everyone I know carries a 1Gb USB key on their keychain03:38
[sqrts] benwell, i carry about 15 keys on my keychain...03:39
ardchoilleYikes!03:39
ardchoilleI have 203:39
[sqrts] benwell... there is 4 keys for home, cellar, mailbox...03:39
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[sqrts] benfor starters ;)03:40
ardchoillehehe03:40
[sqrts] benand then there are car keys, mobile, iPod...03:40
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[sqrts] beni guess i'll try 7.04 and will come back crying if that doesn't work either ;)03:41
eagles0513875i will work03:41
eagles0513875u have to have an optimistic outlook03:41
[sqrts] benwoohuu, it's gonna work03:42
[sqrts] ben:P03:42
icecruncherArwen: anything? I can't even find the drivers03:42
Arwenwhat, you have an ethernet card that doesn't work? all ethernet cards should work "out of box"03:42
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eagles0513875ice if ur on here then u have to have an internet connection03:44
eagles0513875unless ur on wireless03:44
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icecruncherArwen: I don't know if this will help... It seems pretty old  http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fascii24.com%2Fnews%2Fi%2Fhard%2Farticle%2F1999%2F12%2F07%2F605864-000.html&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF803:52
Arwenoh.... is that one of those fake net cards? like the USB ones?03:52
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icecruncherArwen: yeah04:00
Arwenthose aren't supported and never will be04:01
Arwengo buy a real card04:01
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icecruncherArwen: haha04:02
icecruncherk04:02
TeraDyneanyone know of a way to convert .ogg files to .mp3?04:03
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ArwenTeraDyne, yes, but why in the world would you do that?04:04
Arwenthen your shitty music will sound even shittier04:04
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TeraDyneArwen: my iPod nano can't play ogg, sadly04:04
Arwen!rockbox04:04
uboturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!04:04
Arwenuse that04:04
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TeraDyneArwn: is there a chance rockbox will brick it?04:05
oslolike ipodlinux ... Nano 2nd gen is not supported)04:05
Arwenuh, yes04:05
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Arwenjust like flashing your router or updating your BIOS04:05
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TeraDyneArwen: no way then. I can't afford a new nano.04:06
zippercant you just flash it back to default if it gets bricked?04:06
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Arwen^^ - yeah04:06
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TeraDyne*sigh* well, then, I guess I'll try it.04:07
zippergood luck :)04:07
ArwenTeraDyne, if that doesn't work, you can always use lame + oggenc to convert em :-)04:08
Arwenalthough that will seriously degrade the quality04:08
TeraDynezipper: thanks04:08
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TeraDyneArwen: Ok. It'll be a last resort option, then.04:08
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BluesKajit's the default nick04:17
BluesKajppl unfamiliar with irc get it by default04:18
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jussi01I wish someone would set it up to take the name of the pc...04:18
Jucatoathena: those are the default nicks on all Live CD's04:19
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Jucatoby default, IRC apps get the nick from the username, but since the live cd's username is "ubuntu"...04:20
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tdnSanne, because then I don't receive updates for Amarok afterwards.04:21
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athenaJucato, then couldn't we set the LiveCD to generate random usernames?04:22
athenait's so confuzzling..04:22
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Jucatoathena: because of the way Live CD's are. you need to have premade users. and I don't see why this is confusing you... just ignore the ubuntu nicks04:23
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athenaJucato, it confuses me because if I don't notice when 1 ubuntu leaves and another joins, then...04:23
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athena...04:24
athenabasically, I can't figure out which ubuntu is which!04:24
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bkudriai clicked "never for this site" in a password save dialog in konqueror.  how do i remove that site from the ignore list - I *do* want to save the password.  any ideas?04:28
athenaoh yeah, quick question - does, say, a spanish version of Ubuntu have different names for commands than then english one?04:28
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Jucatoathena: command line commands? or the text in the menus?04:29
athenacommand line commands04:29
Jucatoathena: they're all the same04:30
athenahmm.... ah well, lol04:30
athenadoesn04:30
Jucato(they're not really "English" anyway)04:30
athenatrue that04:30
Jucatothey can't be translated either04:30
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icecruncherhow can i get a list of all the dependacies of a package?04:43
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Jucatoapt-cache show <package>04:43
Jucatoor in Adept, click on the Details button04:44
icecruncherJucato: thnks04:44
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icecruncherJucato: how can I tell if the linux kernel source tree is installed?04:45
Jucatosearch for linux-source- I think04:46
icecruncherJucato: ?04:46
Jucatothere's a different source package for different kernel versions. of course you need the one that matches the kernel you are using04:47
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Jucatothe package name usually begins with linux-source-04:47
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BluesKajwhat's the comnd orcmnds to restore the cpu frq scaling daemon ..or is there a module file i can edit ?04:47
icecruncherJucato: ah so i need to fin out what kernel I'm using then install the source?04:47
Jucatoicecruncher: "uname -r" gives you the kernel version04:47
icecruncherJucato: k04:48
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icecruncher2.6.20-15-generic04:48
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icecruncherso how do i install the source?04:48
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underdog5004icecruncher, cd into the directory where the source is, type in ./configure, if there are no errors, then type in sudo make && sudo make install04:50
underdog5004icecruncher, make sure you've installed build-essential.04:50
athenaor rather, don't use make install since that'll trash your system04:50
athena"checkinstall" or "dpkg-buildpackage" instead04:50
underdog5004athena, what's the problem with make install?04:50
icecruncherunderdog5004: yeah, I'm asking how to get the kernel source. is it in /usr/source?04:51
athenaunderdog5004, it places files all over that become untrackable and conflict with the package manager04:51
underdog5004icecruncher, oh...idk. sorry04:51
athenais someone building their own kernel?04:51
underdog5004athena, oh. that's not good04:51
underdog5004sorry04:51
icecruncherathena: yeah cause I need to build in an envir for a driver04:51
athenayeah, checkinstall is better, but it's still a hack04:51
Jucatounderdog5004: he's asking about installing the kernel source code04:52
athenaicecruncher, why do you need to compile your own kernel if you just want a driver?04:52
athenaalso, you don't need the kernel source either, just the headers04:52
icecruncherathena: just following the instructions04:52
underdog5004Jucato, oh...it's been awhile for me...I'm going to bow out now04:52
athenaalso, the kernel doesn't use ./configure04:52
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athenaicecruncher, what instructions? link?04:52
underdog5004aaaaaaahh!!! I can't be right! not even a little bit!!!04:52
Jucatoicecruncher: sudo apt-get install linux-source-whatever04:52
athena^^04:52
underdog5004*sigh*04:52
Jucatoicecruncher: try searching the correct name. I forgot04:52
athenabut if you just need a module, apt-get install linux-headers-whatever is better04:52
eth01is there anyway I can create a vm template, using kubuntu for openvz?04:52
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icecruncherathena, sorry, I'm making an enveir by compiling a part of the kernel, not all of it04:53
athenaicecruncher, ok, go for it04:54
athenait's linux-source-whatever that you need04:54
icecruncherathena, so get headers? why04:54
athenaheaders are used to build kernel modules. If you really need to compile part of the kernel, they won't be enough, so forget em04:54
icecruncherk04:54
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icecruncherathena: about instructions.. gotta get them from the laptop, the place of "contruction", get them in a sec04:56
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inayetwas up04:59
Tm_Tis down04:59
inayetKabul04:59
inayetwas it up or down?04:59
Tm_Tyours is no disgrace05:00
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inayetGot to exercise. take care disgrace05:00
Tm_Thaha05:00
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manchickenOkay, so my wife updated the kernel and the nvidia module is borking now.  Anybody know how to reinstall the nvidia modules?05:04
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Tm_Tmanchicken: hum, how is drivers installed?05:05
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Tm_Tmanchicken: and what exactly is the problem?05:05
icecruncherJucato: cant find the source05:06
Dusk_i can't copy a file to a ntfs volume it says read-only..how can i copy a file to another volume??05:06
Jucato!info linux-source-generic05:06
ubotuPackage linux-source-generic does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:06
Jucatohm...05:06
manchickenTm_T: It's from apt05:06
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athena!linux-source-2.6.20-16.2905:06
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Tm_Tmanchicken: ok, and error is?05:06
Jucatoicecruncher: sorry I kinda forgot the correct package name05:06
manchickenTm_T: Trying to modprobe, modprobe reports a very generic error.05:06
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athena!info linux-source-2.6.20-1605:06
ubotuPackage linux-source-2.6.20-16 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:06
athena...05:06
icecruncher!info linux-source-2.6.20-1505:07
Dusk_!ntfs05:07
ubotuPackage linux-source-2.6.20-15 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:07
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:07
athena!linux-source-2.6.2005:07
GrahamA!teamspeak05:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about teamspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:07
Tm_Tmanchicken: hum, what error X gives to logs? grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:07
athena!info linux-source-2.6.2005:07
Dusk_!ntfs-3g05:07
ubotulinux-source-2.6.20: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.20 with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.20-16.29 (feisty), package size 46690 kB, installed size 46824 kB05:07
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions05:07
athenafinally05:07
manchickenTm_T: No displays.05:07
manchickenTm_T: Because the module won't load.05:07
Tm_Tmanchicken: aha05:08
Tm_Tinteresting05:08
Jucatoathena: next time let's try not to flood the channel with bot searches? :)05:08
athenabah :-)05:08
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manchickenI'm gonna try dpkg -P and then -i again.05:08
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psicobrawoohoo05:08
Tm_Tmanchicken: reinstall linux-restricted-modules-generic ?05:08
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Tm_Tmanchicken: and nvidia-glx ofcourse05:09
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BluesKajpsicobra, err how would you know ?  :)05:10
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manchickenYeah, the error is that it failed to load the nvidia kernel module.05:10
psicobraBluesKaj: well most comon printers epson canon hp etc05:10
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icecruncher!info kernel-source-2.6.20-1505:11
ubotuPackage kernel-source-2.6.20-15 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:11
icecruncher!info kernel-source-2.6.20-15-generic05:12
ubotuPackage kernel-source-2.6.20-15-generic does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:12
icecrunchersuck05:12
Tm_T!botabuse05:12
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...05:12
manchickenThat's scary... apt-get wants to remove linux-generic when you remove the restricted modules package...05:12
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Tm_Tmanchicken: you mean that meta package?05:12
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icecruncherTm_T; sorry, you have any ide how to install the kernel source?05:13
Tm_Ticecruncher: yes, install it05:13
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manchickenTm_T: Yeah.  Scary none-the-less :)05:13
Dusk_!ntfs-3g05:13
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions05:13
icecruncherTm_T: install the source how?05:13
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Tm_Ticecruncher: apt-cache search source | grep linux05:13
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manchickenStill won't probe nvidia.05:13
Tm_Ticecruncher: then install package you like using package manager05:13
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Tm_Tmanchicken: interesting05:14
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manchickenI'm gonna give it a reboot.05:14
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manchickenLots of kernel changes, it may help.05:14
manchickenBack in a bit.05:14
Tm_Tmanchicken: yu05:14
wsjuniorwhat do i need to do to make Apollon to connect to fasttrack net?!05:14
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icecruncherTm_T: thnks05:15
wsjuniorit just stay connecting and never connected to any server05:15
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manchicken_Okay, I'll do this from my terminal.05:16
manchicken_I don't know what the hell is going on there.05:16
Tm_Tmanchicken_: I heard that often when talking 'bout wifes05:17
manchicken_I can use the X interfaces via forwarding.05:17
manchicken_Nice.05:17
manchicken_No, my wife just installed these updates, and now everything just borked.05:17
Tm_Tyeah, just joking (;05:17
manchicken_What do I need to load the nvidia kernel driver?  Do I just need linux restricted?05:18
Tm_Tand nvidia-glx I think, though not sure05:18
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Tm_TI need to buy some food so see later ->05:18
manchicken_did we just move some cards to nvidia-legacy?05:18
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shane2peruok guys a quick and easy question05:19
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shane2peruin Gnome, I had a nice little thing that would tell me how much battery life was left on my wireless mouse.  Is there anything like this in KDE?05:20
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Fablehello. i would like to install azureus 3 on my kubuntu partition but when i used adept, it downloaded and installed azureus 2.5...can someone help me install the newer version please05:21
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shane2peruis anyone here today?05:21
shane2peru:)05:21
athenaFable, pl05:22
athenaok*05:22
BluesKajshane2peru, the same app will work in kde05:22
athenaFable, this is fairly straightforward, but can you go over to #anon32 for step-by-step?05:22
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manchicken_Woah woah woah!  How did this machine end up on the low-latency kernel?05:22
shane2peruBluesKaj: well, the problem, is that I'm not sure what app it was, it was an a little icon down by my clock.05:22
Fablewell iam really good at openSUSe but kubuntu screwed me over05:23
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Fablei dont know anything05:23
BluesKajhave you uninstalled gnome , shane2peru ?05:23
athenaFable, hehe. Basically, the answer is that Azureus 3 isn't in the repository, you have to install it manually05:23
manchicken_Fable: It's really not that different.05:23
athenaand yeah, it's not that different05:24
shane2peruBluesKaj: Yes, I removed it completely and installed Kubuntu. :)05:24
Fablethanks05:24
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BluesKajshane2peru, you can install it thru adept , if you know the name of the app05:24
BluesKajor synaptic05:24
shane2peruathena: manchicken_ I disagree, I just installed Suse 10.2, and it is a bit different05:24
manchicken_shane2peru: I didn't say that it's identical, I merely said that it's not that different.05:25
shane2peruBluesKaj: don't know the app name, does anyone know of anything similar?05:25
athenawell, all linuxes are different..05:25
manchicken_Not enough to state that you were really good at one and now know nothing about another :)05:25
shane2perumanchicken_: I have tried a few times to try other distro's and wow, it is really different once you get used to one.05:25
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manchicken_shane2peru: Not that different.05:26
shane2perumanchicken_: the installation procedures are all different, and adding repos are different05:26
shane2peruat least between Suse and Kubuntu.05:26
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shane2perumanchicken_: I tried to add some repos in suse, took me about 2 hours!  I can do that in *buntu in about 5 minutes05:27
shane2peru:)05:27
manchicken_shane2peru: That's because SuSE's repos are scattered.05:27
bbeck_Hello, I was wondering how to get a list of local wireless networks that I can log on to from KNetworkManager?05:27
dr_willis5 min? egads..05:27
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shane2perumanchicken_: yeah, plus I don't really know what repos to add, and their installation system (yast) is slooooooow.  I think there is a cli, but I don't know how to use it. :)05:29
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shane2perumanchicken_: it isn't no apt-get that is for sure.05:29
wsjunioris anybody here using apollon?05:29
manchicken_shane2peru: And they retardedly put all of the latest and unstable packages in their repos to automatically update without user interaction and crash computers of users who don't know any better.05:31
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manchicken_shane2peru: On SuSE 10.1 ZMD automatically update my ALSA setup and I lost soud.05:31
manchicken_athena: Probably not.05:31
shane2perumanchicken_: is that spoken by experience?05:31
manchicken_Although I just removed linux-image-lowlatency :)05:31
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manchicken_shane2peru: Far too much fscking experience.05:31
manchicken_(literally)05:32
shane2perumanchicken_: yeah, I don't know that much about it, I cut my teeth on suse for a bit way back in the 9.2 days, but have used *buntu ever since05:32
shane2peruI found a whole lot of community support on *buntu05:33
manchicken_Okay, so linux-image-lowlatency isn't compatible with the nvidia kernel modules.05:33
crocodileIs it possible to add an 'open' button to amarok mini player?05:33
manchicken_At least that's what it looks like.05:33
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manchicken_crocodile: Submit a wishlist item on launchpad.net :)05:34
Sannemanchicken_: tried linux-restricted-modules-lowlatency?05:34
crocodilemanchicken_ -  I just learned the mini player is gone in the latest amarok so my request would never get filled05:35
shane2peruok, quick question, I just installed Suse 10.2 on a spare partition, and all went well, now, when I boot into Kubuntu, it gives me some problem of fsck on a partition cannot be checked, and then dumps me to cli, of which I exit and it continues booting.  Any ideas?05:35
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dr_willisshane2peru,  check your fstab - could be your partitiosn got moved,  or removed/renamed.05:35
dr_willisand its trying to mount one that dosent exist anjy more05:35
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shane2perudr_willis: ohh, yeah, I think I had that spare partition mounted via fstab, thanks, I'll check that out.05:36
dr_willisif you were mounting it based on UUID not /dev/### name - that wouldent of happened. :) i think05:37
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shane2perudr_willis: well, actually it was mounted via uuid, I just commented out that partition, I guess I didn't add it, I don't really need to access that partition, I can manually mount it if necessary.05:38
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shane2perudr_willis: ok, let me reboot and see if that fixes the problem.05:38
randacs_anyone here have problem with automatix?05:40
randacs_problems*05:40
joaomariovery happy with asus new driver. it seem's to work well in kubuntu 7.04 for Quadro FX 150005:40
BluesKaj!automatix205:40
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe05:40
randacs_yeah I read that, but some other mates of mine said it works well for them so was just wondering :)05:41
athenawe don't support automatix here. it's a crappy half-assed script that does nothing apt-get can't05:41
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shane2perudr_willis: well uuid loses that round, it was mounted via uuid, and that was the problem, I love Kubuntu boot speed.05:42
BluesKajrandacs , maybe you should consult with this room first before listening to your mates , the next time05:42
shane2perudr_willis: thanks for the help05:42
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randacs_BluesKaj: that's why I asked05:43
dr_willisshane2peru,  then your UUID some how changed.05:43
randacs_Im not too keen on 3de party managers anyways05:43
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joaomarioI was wondering, why the monitor does not work in 64-bit. The driver asked if I wanted to install 32-bit libraries and I had to, to get beryl working properly.05:44
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BluesKajrandacs_, i tried it about a yr ago before I knew better...I found out in a hurry  ...spent the next week trying to rid my pc of broken pkges and fixing one sthat were damaged05:45
randacs_on another note, this is the first time I installed Kubuntu and I must say it's a very cool install05:45
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shane2perudr_willis: ok, here are the facts, I had Kubuntu on that spare partition then installed Kubuntu as my main distro, and forgot about the spare partition05:45
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shane2perudr_willis: I then installed Suse and had problems.05:46
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dr_willisYou will get that with SUSE. :)05:46
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shane2perudr_willis: yeah, I figured it didn't play nice with Kubuntu's uuid system.05:47
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BluesKajrandacs_,yes kubuntu very "satisfying" ...especially after trying vista :)05:48
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shane2perudr_willis: I think it would have survived if mounted via the /dev/sda - because I didn't change any partitions, is that in theory correct?05:48
shane2perualso filesystem remained the same ext305:48
randacs_yeah it seems nice, I'm a old school BSD user, never really liked linux, always gave me some problems, but this distro seems very cool indeed05:49
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joaomariohello again05:52
joaomarioanybody from brasil?05:53
k3ykubuntu is very nice  :)05:53
athenayou mean brazil? and nope, not me05:53
joaomarioyes05:53
joaomarioin fact, in portuguese brasil is written with 'S'. But, as we are speaking in english i guess you're correct.05:54
joaomarioI'm at Sao Paulo - Brazil, where are you locate athena?05:55
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athenaMichigan, USA, lol05:55
shane2peruanyone know what the command is to start the visor thing for the 2.6 kernel?  I had to do this in Ubuntu too, but don't remember the command.05:55
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joaomariothat's great. I've been to Boston, and Newport, I guess that's close to your state, isn't it?05:56
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jussi01!offtopic05:57
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:57
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daquinowhich signal is the equivalant of ^z?06:05
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joaomariostop06:05
daquinoSIGSTOP ?06:06
daquinoso then how do i start it again ?06:06
joaomarioyes...06:06
daquinoyes what ?06:06
joaomarioit's SIGSTOP.06:07
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daquinoand starting it back up ?06:07
daquinoso if i stop a process will all children freeze too ?06:08
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joaomario18 to re-start06:09
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joaomario'kill -l' will list all the signals for you. But you should use this command to send signal 18 for the process which has stopped.06:10
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athena!terminal > Fable06:18
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mcmurdohow to use it06:18
dr_willis0_o06:19
mcmurdoit's my fist time 2 use it06:20
dr_willisuse what?06:20
mcmurdothis chatting tool06:20
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dr_willisYou mean your IRC client?06:20
mcmurdoyeap06:21
dr_willistry the HELP docs in the menus?06:21
dr_willisYou seem to be using it just fine so far.06:21
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dr_willis!irc06:21
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines06:21
mcmurdothks06:21
mcmurdor u a robot?06:22
dr_willisF1 = Help - :)06:22
dr_willisNo but ubotu  is.06:22
mcmurdoand where r u?06:22
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daquinowhy do the adept tools have to lock the database if they are only downloading or browsing the repos ?06:22
dr_willisI live in Indiana.06:22
daquinoits pretty dam annoying06:22
dr_willisdaquino,  when in doubt its best to play it VERY safe with package management.06:23
mcmurdowe r neighbour06:23
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daquinodr_willis:  yea but adept_installer is downloading and i just want to install a quick package wtf06:23
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dr_willisadept_installer is just a front end to the other tool you are using.. Now i could see how it would be nice if the downloads could get spawned to the Background. so you could que up other tasks...06:24
mcmurdoi think indian 's vry hot ,maybe you can kill the thread06:24
dr_willisbut ive not seen any of the apt tools do that.06:24
dr_willisIndiana is NOT india.06:24
dr_willisopposite sides of the world.06:24
mcmurdowhich state?06:25
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dr_willisIndiana  - :)  is the state.06:25
dr_willisIndianaiaian06:25
dr_willisheck i cant even spell it right now.06:26
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dr_willisindiana06:26
BluesKajdr_willis, you assume everyone worldwide knows american geography :)06:26
mcmurdoa state of usa?06:27
icecruncherhow can I get an older version of the kernel source with the ubuntu patches?06:27
daquinodr_willis:  you seem to be informed... i have asked many times about an issue that if my usb mouse is not plugged in at boot messages dont even show up in dmesg when i plug it in... its very strange... in any linux dmesg should detect the device being attached to the usb and it should just work since xorg.conf is allready setup for usb mice06:27
BluesKaji also think there's a 'puton' going on here06:28
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mcmurdo"sudo fdisk -l" is ok06:28
mcmurdothen mount06:29
daquinodr_willis:  can i at least save my choices in adept_installer so that i could quit it and then run apt-get then rerun adept_installer so it takes back off wehre i left it ?06:29
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dr_willisdaquino,  i recall some 'create an install script' feature in synaptic. Not sure if adept has a similer feature06:31
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dr_willisdaquino,  ive seen some odd usb device/motherboard issues where the kernel dont see the usb things properly unless its plugged in at boot. Not experienced it personally however.06:32
dr_willisdan,  you are correct however. Plygging in the mouse after boot should show some dmesg info msgs. and it should work06:33
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dr_willisit does work for my laptop that way.06:33
dr_willisoops  daquino  not dan. :)06:33
daquinofunny i was wondering how you knew my name06:33
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daquinoand someone told me that device drivers and hardware detection is completely done in the initrd ?06:34
daquinoif so thats retarded and probably the reason its not more dynamic at run time06:34
dr_willisHmm.. initrd loads up some subset i thouhght, then handed it off to the full kernel.06:35
dr_willisYou can have a system without an initrd06:35
dr_willisI think you only got 'part' of the info on how initrd works/what its doing.06:35
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dr_willisIve not researched initrd much myself however. but i THOUGHT it mainly was to load raid/ide/sata/other 'has to be loaded befor system can boot' type drivers06:36
dr_willisusb/mouse drivers i dont think fall under that catagory.06:36
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dr_willisLinux initrd allows the Linux kernel to stage boots: first a minimal kernel, then the initrd image, and finally the real file system.06:37
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dr_willishttp://sial.org/howto/linux/initrd/06:37
athenainitrd is a ramedisk with a pre-loaded kernel image...06:38
athenaas dr_willis said, it's to preload certain drivers06:38
athena(not necessary if you statically link them)06:38
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dr_willisfrom what i just read. the initrd dosent even have to be using the same kernel as your system is running. Some how it can 'change over ' to the new kernel? wonder how it does that.06:39
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alvynHi, please, does kubuntu some firewall? And where are the settings for it? Thx06:39
dr_willishttp://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-linux-initrd-initial-ram-disk.html06:39
athenadr_willis, it doesn't. But an initrd is built every time the kernel is, so it just gets packaged with it06:39
dr_willisalvyn,  its  has that feature.. but its basicially disabled by default.06:39
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dr_willisathena,  ahh... that explains those messages ive seen then06:40
dr_willis!firewall06:40
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).06:40
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dr_willishttp://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-initrd.html06:40
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alvyndr_willis, ubotu: Thanks06:40
dr_willisGotta love IBM and their docs :)06:41
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fritz_i installed windows and then used super grub cd to fix grub...but now i can't get it to see windows...and i need win for some apps..can any1 help?06:41
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jhutchins_ltBuilding a custom initrd is a good idea if you either have unusual hardware that actually needs it, or if you want to tune your boot process.06:42
BluesKajdoes anyone other than IT admin guys actually use iptables ?06:42
dr_willisfritz_,  you mean to say your GRUB menu has no entry for windows?06:42
jhutchins_ltBluesKaj: I have a couple of good howtos on networking that include scripts that use it directly.06:42
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fritz_yes06:42
madooy guys ... hello ...06:43
jhutchins_ltBluesKaj: If you know enough not to just accept somebody else's default preconfiguration, you use iptables, or you use a script that makes them a little easier to manage.06:43
fritz_dr_willis it only sees the ubuntu os06:43
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dr_willisfritz_,  the default grub menu.lst has a example 'paragraph' for booting windows off   of /dev/hda1 - i alwyas just uncomment it - that puts a windows menu item at the top of grub.06:43
jhutchins_ltBluesKaj: shorewall's a handy utility, but it's way overkill for the ordinary home/small office fiewall.06:43
BluesKajfritz_, use supergrub to fix the mbr on windows , then fix grub bootloader for linux06:43
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dr_willisfritz_,  'seeing' it is notthe same as 'not configured for it' :)06:43
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dr_willisGrub is one of those top 10 things - worth learning about. :) about #3 on my list. heh06:44
fritz_well...i don't know...when i hit escape to load the grub menu, the only thing that comes up are three ubuntu thingyes06:44
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fritz_i just want the win os 2 show up there please^.^06:44
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dr_willisfritz_,  yes.. and to do so you MUST have an entry for windows in the grub configs..06:45
dr_williswhich is why i mentioned the EXAMPLES in the grub menu.lst config file06:45
BluesKajyeah jhutchins_lt , I just let the router manage the FW ..altho i do some port mapping for various apps06:45
dr_willisNot sure of a way/tool in ubuntu to rescan and add the entry automaticially after install.06:45
dr_willisI always just edit the menu.lst manually and add the thing.06:46
fritz_.....how do i do that?06:46
joaomarioi personally like nmap to scan the network.06:46
jriachidr_willis: may i ask you about your 10-things list?06:46
dr_willisedit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file  look under - the line -----------> # examples06:46
dr_willisjriachi,  :) been working on that list for years.. and needing to get a good set or urls for it.06:47
dr_willisjriachi,  one of my always working on projects..06:47
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dr_willistop 10 things for a wanting-to-be-linux-profficient person to learn about.06:47
fritz_don't you know how to do that using super grub....cause it seems to be able to...06:47
BluesKajdr_willis, fritz_ has to restore his windows mbr first06:47
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dr_willisfritz_,  you can boot to the kubuntu system?06:48
fritz_well...if i restore the mbr...it autmaticly starts windows...if i fix the grub,,,i only get linux :-/06:48
fritz_yes06:48
fritz_i'm in it now06:48
fritz_^.^06:48
dr_willisfritz_,  correct.. You NEED to edit the menu.lst to have an entry for windows.06:48
jriachidr_willis: let me guess: bash, lvm, acl, grub, iptables , /etc/init.d/* , ,,,, ?06:48
BluesKajsupergrub has the direct boot into linux option06:48
dr_willisgrub reads the menu.lst and thats where it gets the menu from06:48
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dr_willisjriachi,  actually i never use lvm, or acl, :)06:48
dr_willisjriachi,  i was thinking, bash, grub, samba,06:49
jriachidr_willis: neither do i, but they sound so interesting...06:49
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dr_willisthen it gets  less imporntant.06:49
dr_willisTweaking the list based on what gets asked in here. :)06:49
jriachidr_willis: maybe nfs?06:49
fritz_well i just want to be able to boot at choice both os....so....a complete set of advices would be welcome06:49
fritz_:)06:49
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dr_willisbash, vi, grub,06:49
joaomariodr_willis, how can I create an entry for grub to star at runlevel 3?  I would like text mode with network.06:49
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dr_willisfritz_,  edit that menu.lst UNCOMMENT the 4 lines under #examples that shows a example boot entry for windows.. and reboot.. see if that works06:50
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dr_willis#1 - "Thinking for yourself" , #2 bash, #3 vi, grub,06:50
fritz_BluesKaj?06:50
jhutchins_ltjoaomario: All runlevels are equal in ubuntu.06:50
dr_willisjoaomario,  runlevel 3 Hmm...06:50
jhutchins_ltjoaomario: (except 0 and 6 of course).06:51
dr_willisyea. i was thinking  that ubuntu sort of broke away from the runlevel stuff in that way06:51
BluesKajyes fritz , once you restore the windows mbr , then restore grub for linux and then edit grub  menu.lst06:51
jhutchins_ltBluesKaj: Does fdisk /mbr work for the gnu fdisk?06:51
dr_willisgnu's fdisk is vastly different form the old Dos/windows fdisk06:51
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joaomarioI used to deal with a RedHat system. So, Ubuntu, doesn't deal with runlevels....06:52
dr_willisThank goodness.. its actually useable. :)06:52
jhutchins_ltHence the question.06:52
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dr_willisgnu's fdisk dosent even mess with the mbr as far as i can recall.06:52
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dr_willisother then to change the partition info.06:52
BluesKajjhutchins_lt, dunno, been using supergrubdisk exclusively06:52
jhutchins_ltjoaomario: The debian branch didn't even use to have them, they added them for LSB compatibility, but by default they don't do anything.06:52
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jhutchins_ltjoaomario: You can manually configure them to work like SysV systems, but you have to.06:52
fritz_so just take out the "#" 4 the 4 lines under "examples"06:52
fritz_?06:52
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dr_willisyes06:54
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dr_willisthis is where #2 and #3 on my list come in.. Heh.. I gotta get to work on that list sometime06:54
dr_willisthe menu.lst is a little odd  but those lines are just simple comments.06:55
dolphinhald-addon-storage freezes my system every now and then when I insert a CD/DVD to my DVD-writer (laptop running feisty-x86_64)06:55
dr_willis title         Windows 95/98/NT/200006:55
dr_willis root          (hd0,0)06:55
dr_willisand so on.06:55
fritz_ok dr_willis...rebooting06:55
fritz_:)06:55
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dr_willisThat edit is somthing i do almost blindfolded on every ubuntu isntall i make06:55
dr_willis:)06:56
dr_willisneed to make script to do it. Heh06:56
joaomariobut the inicialization scripts are divided into rc0.d .... rc6.d ?06:56
athenadidn't we get rid of rc when at edgy?06:56
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jriachidr_willis: btw, one day I found "10 exercices to become proficient in a programming language: involving hello world, recursion...", it would be great to make a 10 exercices for starting in a new operating system "create a new user, login, sudo/runas/... a program"06:57
dolphinis that a known problem?06:57
joaomarioappearently not06:57
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dr_willisjriachi,  played with that 'hackity hack' programiong language/tutorial system yet?06:57
dr_willisits amuseing.06:57
BluesKajdr_willis, I was in formed by arwen/athena,the windows example in the grub menu.lst will work for a windows partition if it's uncommented06:58
jriachidr_willis: maybe this summer, i plan to learn some python06:58
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dr_willishttp://hacketyhack.net/06:58
athenaBluesKaj, I never said anything like that!06:58
athena.,.....06:58
dr_willisits using Ruby :)06:58
dr_willisHeh..06:59
BluesKajoops.. arwen then06:59
athenaI *am* Arwen...06:59
joaomarioI would like a way to restart the machine in text mode when beryl crashes. So that I can manage to put things in order and then restart X again.06:59
jriachidr_willis: ruby sounds cool too :)06:59
BluesKajyeah , well I wish a log06:59
dr_willisI just read the menu.lst and noticed it being there.06:59
BluesKaji kept06:59
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dr_willisjriachi,  yea hackity hack kept me amused for an hr or 2 last week06:59
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shane2perumy music keeps skipping in amarok, just started today!  Any ideas why?06:59
shane2peruThey played find before!06:59
shane2perufine07:00
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jriachi(i thought that  'hackity hack tutorial'=="10 exercises", but that url sounds cool)07:00
ardchoilleshane2peru: Make sure to not move or jostle the player.. the needle can skip.07:01
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Cris987hi everyone07:01
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Cris987this is my first time here07:01
shane2peruardchoille: well, that is what it sounds like, but they are all mp3 files on hdd.07:02
Cris987i'm having a little trouble opening kontact07:02
Cris987could someone offer me a hand?07:02
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ardchoilleCris987: You'll have to narrow that odwn a bit.07:02
shane2peruardchoille: seems to happen every 5 seconds07:02
shane2peruexactly07:02
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Cris987okay07:02
Cris987i have been using contact for a week or so07:03
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Cris987works perfectly07:03
jussi01can someone tell me how to change the desktop icon sizes07:03
jhutchins_ltshane2peru: Something else is using CPU.07:03
jussi01??07:03
ardchoilleshane2peru: Not sure, I've never used amarok07:03
Cris987until last night, when i opened kontact07:03
dr_willisjriachi,  aparently hackityhack has some issues under linux. having to RTFM on it now. i had it going under windows heh07:03
Cris987it just won't load anymore07:03
neil_Hey guys, believe it or not resuming from suspend FINALLY works in ubuntu if you add the new nvidia drivers! So does VT switching..07:03
neil_How can we get this added to ubuntu repositories?07:03
Cris987the icon flashes a few times, and disappears07:03
shane2peruardchoille: well looking at my little cpu monitor on the panel, says no heavy process running.07:03
jriachijussi01: it is in settings -> appearance -> icons07:03
jussi01jriachi: thanks07:04
Cris987i tried opening kontact with konsole, and here's what i get07:04
shane2peruardchoille: maybe it is a record player effect enabled, :)  ha ha.07:04
ardchoillehahahaha07:04
Cris987X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16607:04
Cris987  Major opcode:  14407:04
Cris987  Minor opcode:  307:04
Cris987  Resource id:  0x007:04
Cris987Failed to open device07:04
neil_Anybody know?07:04
Cris987X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16607:04
Cris987  Major opcode:  14407:04
Cris987  Minor opcode:  307:04
Cris987  Resource id:  0x007:04
TeraDyne!pastebin | cris98707:04
Cris987Failed to open device07:04
ubotucris987: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:04
Cris987kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.07:04
jriachijussi01: i guess you tried with desktop-right-click ?07:04
Cris987kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.07:04
ardchoille!paste | Cris98707:04
ubotuCris987: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:04
Cris987kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.07:04
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shane2peru!pastebin07:04
jhutchins_ltWe need a kickbot for that.07:04
dr_willisgotta love FAQ's07:05
dr_willis!baddevice07:05
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors07:05
ardchoillejhutchins_lt: I agree07:05
dr_willishis # is 144 ... thats odd..07:05
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Bllzquestion:  i accidentally closed the wizard that runs the first time in AmaroK, is there a way I can run it again?07:05
dr_willisoh wait wrong line. :)07:05
theotick_!ohmy07:05
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:05
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Cris987http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27290/plain/07:06
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ardchoilleCris987: Well, that " X Error: BadDevice" stuff can be fixed by commenting out all the wacom stuff in xorg.conf07:06
dr_willis http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors07:06
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Cris987it seems like the x error isn't the problem though07:06
TeraDynetheotick_: who was that directed at?07:06
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ardchoilledr_willis: That's Hawkwind's site :)07:06
Bllzanyone know how i can run the amaroK wizard again?  I accidentally closed it te first time I started the app07:07
Cris987cuz i opend amarok perfectly but it hase the bad devices warnings as well07:07
dr_willisardchoille,  never noticed..Ive edited those things out by hand so much...07:07
ardchoilleCris987: Thos BadDevice warnings are going to continue until you edit xorg.conf07:07
dr_willisits just warnings.. and annoying.. but they dont break anything07:07
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Cris987okay, let me try editing  it and see what happens07:07
TeraDyneI did not know that taking out the wacom entries would stop those. Nice.07:07
Bllzanybody?07:08
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ardchoilleCris987: It won't fix the kontact problem.07:08
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jriachidr_willis: what about for    #0 "Monitors no longer explode, and you can't burn hardware due to software misconfiguration. Don't be afraid of trying new things or configurations"07:08
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Cris987how should i go about fixing my kontact problem then?07:08
Cris987i'm assuming the problem has sth to do with the lines:07:09
Cris987kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.07:09
Cris987kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.07:09
dr_willisjriachi,  thats when its time togo to #5 on my list.. learning the xorg.conf file :)07:09
Cris987kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.07:09
joaomariocris, maybe you could reinstall it, if everything else fails.07:09
jhutchins_ltCris987: Stop pasting here or you will be kicked.07:09
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jriachidr_willis: when you read old linux books... it is scary (really scary) the risks they warn you about07:09
Cris987i 'm sorry07:09
jhutchins_ltCris987: THose errors will occur for most or all X programs.07:09
dr_willisjriachi,  yep.. i got a wall full of them.07:10
jhutchins_ltCris987: Eliminating them might make it easier to see actual errors.07:10
Cris987not famillair with IRC rules...07:10
dr_willisjriachi,  gotta love linux FUNdamentals.07:10
dr_willis!flood07:10
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:10
jhutchins_ltCris987: When you start kontact from console, does it run?07:10
dr_williswork time for me. bye all07:10
Cris987it tries to run07:10
Cris987but shows the warnings i posted07:10
dolphinhmm07:11
SanneCris987: maybe a kontact process is still running somewhere. Can you find it in the process list when you start ksysguard?07:11
jhutchins_ltCris987:  THat's not exactly an answer.  We understand about the warnings, does it run?07:11
Cris987nope07:11
ardchoilleCris987: Open a term and type:  ps aux | grep kontact07:11
jhutchins_ltCris987: If you create a new user, can that user run kontact?07:11
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pupeno_I am having a problem. Both of my Kubuntu notebooks strugle to get an IP from a three different DHCP servers. I'd say something is wrong here, and not the servers. I believe that when I get the IP, the eth0:avahi interface is not created. Any ideas?07:11
jhutchins_ltpassing him off to you ardchoille07:11
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Cris987http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27291/plain/07:12
ardchoilleCris987: Have you installed any packages or run any install scripts lately?07:12
navetsis there any software to make webpages for kubuntu?07:13
Cris987Ardchoille: not that i'm aware of07:13
ardchoilleCris987: Ok, you see that? you have two kontact processes running07:13
TeraDyne!nvu | navets07:13
ubotunavets: nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.07:13
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jthomasscp "eljefe@eljefedelito.homelinux.org:/home/eljefe/bigboi/Movies/Final\ Movies/Andrew.zip" .07:13
jthomas^ scp is the program, 'secure copy'07:13
jthomas     ^ eljefe is the username AT ^ the server name eljefedelito.homelinux.org07:13
jthomas                                         ^/home/eljefe... is the directory path to the file07:13
TeraDyne!quanta | navets07:13
jthomassorry!!!07:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about quanta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:13
Cris987weird, i thought i tried starting an ew session, and killing the kontact processes07:13
jthomasdoes anyone know how to remotely restart kpf (KDE Public File Server, kicker applet) ??07:13
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navetsTeraDyne: do you use any of them? also which is the best?07:14
TeraDynenavets: I use quanta, and personally, I love it. It's not a WYSIWYG editor, but it works as far as I need it to.07:14
Cris987okay, i have just killed all my kontact processes thru sysguard07:15
Cris987and i ran kontact in console again07:15
Cris987same lines show up07:15
Cris987still won't run07:15
b0hahello guys, i have some problems07:15
jhutchins_ltjthomas: Only if you're running a vpn server in the session.  That is why you don't run servers in gui sessions.07:15
ardchoilleCris987: Ok, so now you probably have another kontact process running.07:15
b0hai install ntfs-3g driver for writing on ntfs07:16
navetsTeraDyne: im not to sure what WYSIWYG is, I created a webpage but only using css and html. Does WYSIWYG make it easier?07:16
jthomasjhutchins_lt: hmm good point but that really ... makes me sad07:16
b0hanow when i try to install something07:16
b0hai get this error:07:16
b0haSetting up fuse-utils (2.6.3-0givre2) ...07:16
b0hacreating fuse device node...07:16
b0ha/sbin/MAKEDEV: don't know how to make device "fuse"07:16
b0hadpkg: error processing fuse-utils (--configure):07:16
b0ha subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status07:16
ardchoille!paste | b0ha07:16
ubotub0ha: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:16
b0haanyone knows what could be wrong?07:16
jriachinavets: WYSIWYG is using  openoffice/word/...  and saving as .html07:16
jhutchins_ltCris987: The error messages are complaining that your xorg.conf configures the system for devices you don't have.  If you remove the lines that configure them from the xorg.conf file, the error messages will go away.07:16
b0hasorry for flood07:16
navetsjriachi: Oh, ok thanks07:17
jhutchins_lt!fuse | b0ha07:17
ubotub0ha: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse07:17
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ardchoillejhutchins_lt: Yeah, it's my opinion that those lines should be commented out by default.07:17
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jriachinavets: that will be one cold beer, thanks :p07:17
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jhutchins_ltardchoille: The devices are handled correctly by other distributions.   Ubuntu has just been lazy about them.07:17
underdog5004b0ha, ntfs write is stable now, I believe07:17
ardchoilleAh, ok07:17
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navetsjriachi: all I have is pepsi man07:18
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jhutchins_ltunderdog5004: I think so, but that's the only fuse resource I have.07:18
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underdog5004jhutchins, one of the first things I do on a fresh install is comment out the references to wacom stuff...what a bother!07:18
ejortegauhi there. two small questions: 1) how do i force dhcp client to release the lease and forget it ever had it? just so i'm sure i'm getting an IP given by the dhcp server instead of some cached IP. 2) is there any reason why i should be getting different IP addresses in windows and in linux?07:18
jriachinavets: then i'll wait for you to earn more money, visit Valladolid, Spain and buy me a beer. :p07:18
b0hatnx jhutchins_lt i will have a look07:18
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MisterfixitHow to get Kbuntu to recognize an SD card when the card is inserted in the usb reader.  Lights blink but nothing gets mounted.  fsab modification????07:18
underdog5004ejortegau, sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth007:19
navetsjriachi: k just dont forget me while im gone!07:19
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underdog5004that should get a new ip address.07:19
jriachinavets: don't worry, i never forget a beer promise07:19
underdog5004the reasoning behind different ip address between os's...I think that's the Dynamic part of DHCP....07:19
jhutchins_ltejortegau: Check the manpage for your client.  The reason that the IP is different for each system is that the different dhcp clients store the last used IP in different places.07:19
underdog5004if you want it static, then edit the /etc/network/interfaces file07:20
navetsjriachi: lol hey do you know what the command would be to get quanta plus? sudo apt-get install quanta-plus or something/07:20
jhutchins_ltejortegau: You can find the file where this is stored in linux, replace the IP with the IP windows was using, and you should get consistency, at least for a while.07:20
jriachinavets: in kubuntu it seems there is only quanta, not quanta-plus (apt-get install quanta)07:21
joaomarionavets, you can tyype: apt-get search quanta && apt-get install (package)07:21
navetsalright thanks guys ill try it out07:21
jhutchins_ltjoaomario: Which won't really work, but apt-get install `apt-search quanta` might/07:21
navetshum neither work07:22
Bllzcan i synch my Aramok collection to an ipod?07:22
TeraDynesudo aptitude install quanta07:22
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joaomariotry: sudo apt-get install quanta07:22
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navetsIve got quanta but I read that quanta plus was better07:22
jhutchins_ltnavets: Sorry, it's understood that packages are always installed via sudo, we forget to type it.07:23
TeraDyneQuanta and Quanta+ are the same, IIRC07:23
navetsI usually code without WYSIWYG but ive never tried it so im looking for it07:23
navetsok cool07:23
navetswell im gonna play around with quanta then07:23
navetsthanks07:23
nosrednaekimI personally like nvu07:23
jhutchins_ltBllz: Yes.07:23
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jriachinavets:  you are welcome, and your beer too :p07:24
navetsnosrednaekim: ill download it as well :)07:24
navetsjriachi: lol07:24
jhutchins_ltnavets: One of the nice things about quanta is it supports fish.07:24
joaomario|o|07:24
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tecnicohi07:24
nosrednaekimhi07:24
joaomarioyes, I like to work through fish. Making life easiaer07:25
navetsjhutchins_lt: thats good I always use fish07:25
Bllzjhutchins_lt, how do i do that?07:25
TeraDyne!hello | tecnico07:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:25
jhutchins_ltfish://user@server.foo07:25
tecnicosomebody can tell me how i can exit to kde and return to console?07:25
tecnicowith ubuntu 7.0407:25
nosrednaekimtecnico: ctrl+alt+f207:25
tecnicothanks07:25
jhutchins_lttecnico: Ctrl-Alt-F[1-6] 07:25
nosrednaekimwill get you to the konsole without killing kde07:25
nosrednaekimand f7 will always briong you back to kde07:26
jhutchins_lttecnico: From there you can stop kdm if you want to shut down the xserver.07:26
joaomarioto shut it you can log-out click on the drop-down box at the screen where you type your login info and exit x server07:26
Bllzhow do i sync my ipod to amarok?07:26
tecnicowith #/etc/init.d/xserver stop ?07:26
TeraDynewait... ubotu can recognize hi and howdy, but not hello?07:27
nosrednaekimBllz: I think you just have to plug it in!07:27
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Bllznosrednaekim, not working lol07:27
Bllzit's plugged in and everything... amarok is confusing as all hell!07:28
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tecnicojoaomario: where is the drop-down box at the screen ?07:28
joaomarioon the left of the login info07:28
navetshey can I open a document with fish through kate?07:29
joaomarioits just a draw, but you can lick on it07:29
nosrednaekimBllz: go to media devices on the left and try to manually configure it07:29
TeraDynejoaomario: lick? As in lick the screen?07:29
tecnicoi have kde, is it the same?07:30
nosrednaekimBllz: uhh... NM07:30
joaomariosorry...i meant click...07:30
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nosrednaekimBllz: go to configure amarok... nd then media devices07:30
Bllznosrednaekim, i already did that07:30
Bllznosrednaekim, sdb1 plugin apple ipod media device07:31
TeraDyneBllz: is there an ipod icon on your desktop?07:31
tecnicojoaomario, ok, but how i disable the xserver to the boot?07:31
BllzTeraDyne, yes07:31
Bllzamarok is just not showing me it's contents or syncing to it07:32
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pupeno_Something is really wrong here, I am able to ping the nameservers, but not query them for names... but while pinging them I don't see anything at all in the tcpdump and when I cancell it I see: 1 packets captured, 495 packets received by filter, 148 packets dropped by kernel... why packets dropped by filter? I don't have any iptables rules.07:32
joaomariotecnico, when you click there, will appear some options for you. One of them is to restart in text mode.07:32
Fablei was wondering how you can remove programs from the kmenu that have been removed from the system07:33
Fablebut they are still there07:33
TeraDyneBllz: Ok, that wa the only think I could think it would be. I use Rockbox on my nano, so I can't be of any other assistance.07:33
joaomariofable, kmenuedit07:33
Bllzwhat's rockbox? i might not even watn to use amarok, lol07:33
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TeraDyne!rockbox07:34
uboturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!07:34
Bllzi'm not a big fan of the layout...07:34
nosrednaekimBllz: you have a Mac formatted ipod?07:34
Bllzoh so it's not a mediaplayer?07:34
Bllzno it's pc formatted07:34
nosrednaekimBllz: there is always gtkpod07:34
b0hai installed ntfs-3g driver and now i cant install anything i get this error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27299/07:34
Bllzlol ugh... tried that before07:34
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Bllzi might just use songbird and live without the album art07:34
Bllzor banshee07:34
TeraDyneIf you want another player, there's always banshee or Rhythmbox. Or you can use GTKpod to manually transfer everything.07:34
ardchoillealbum art? There's such thing as album art??07:35
Bllzon an ipod? yeah07:35
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Fableum another tihng. i have some useless azureus files in my system that i would like to delete because i want to reinstall07:35
Fablebut i cant find them due to permission...07:35
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Bllzdoes rhythmbox handle album art?07:35
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TeraDyneBllz: I dunno. I haven't used it since switching to Kubuntu07:35
joaomariotecnico, everytime you boot to get to text mode?07:35
nosrednaekimBllz: you could try exile07:36
nosrednaekim*exaile07:36
tecnicojoaomario: i have only "log out", "hibernate", "restart", "turn off"...?07:36
Bllzexaile? i'll look it up, thanks07:36
rustalotHow do I tell Korqueror to render mail.google.com with Gekco?07:36
sovetovhi all07:36
nosrednaekimrustalot: you can't07:36
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athenarustalot, you don't07:36
athenaKonq uses KHTML07:36
nosrednaekimbut gmail seems broken with it07:36
Fablethanks for banning me07:36
sovetovruskie est"?07:36
Tm_TFable: er?07:36
Fableathena07:37
rustalotthe problem is that K. isn't a supoorted browser07:37
neil_Hey guys, believe it or not resuming from suspend FINALLY works in ubuntu if you add the new nvidia drivers! So does VT switching..07:37
neil_How can we get this added to ubuntu repositories?07:37
athenahehe07:37
FableTm_T: sorry07:37
joaomariotecnico, click on log-out, this will get you to the screen I told you abut.07:37
rustalotso it would be nice if I could render it with FF07:37
tecnicojoaomario: no it's start with kde07:37
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tecnicojoaomario: no it's start with kde automaticly07:37
joaomariook07:37
athenaFable, well, you can come back now if you want, but really, I've given up..07:37
rustalotbut keep in the same window07:37
Tm_Trustalot: well, how about fooling gmail to think you're using firefox?07:37
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tecnicojoaomario: ok 'm try now07:38
ardchoillesovetov: Need runnian?07:38
ardchoilleRussian?07:38
rustalotTm_T: it loads, but the script doesn't work07:38
joaomarioyou have to log-out. then, on that screen where you put your user-name and password for the system you will find the draw drop-down box07:38
Tm_Trustalot: hum, true07:38
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Tm_Trustalot: it worked at some point though07:38
joaomarioclicking on that draw will get you the text without X.07:39
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sovetovardchoille da russian channel need =)07:40
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tecnico2joaomario: ok i see the drop-down box07:40
Tm_T!ru | sovetov07:40
ubotusovetov:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke07:40
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tecnico2joaomario: thanls07:40
tecnico2joaomario: thanks07:40
joaomarioyou're welcome07:40
tecnico2joaomario: sorry, i have the last question07:40
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nosrednaekimo... I doubt it si THE last Q.07:41
joaomarioshoot07:41
nosrednaekimis07:41
tecnico2joaomario: how i cancel the auto start with xserver from the boot?07:41
joaomarioI would like to know that as well... :)07:41
nosrednaekimtecnico2: "update-rc.d remove kdm"07:42
nosrednaekimI think...07:42
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nosrednaekimnope... "sudo update-rc.d kdm remove"07:42
nosrednaekimthere ya go07:42
joaomarionosrednaekim, How could I put an option at grub, so when I want text mode i get text mode and when i want kde i get kde?07:43
nosrednaekimjoaomario: I don't know.... I think there might be a boot option "nox"07:43
joaomariook, thanks.07:44
tecnico2nosrednaekim: there is a program or a file to see the list of service that start on boot?07:45
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joaomariothe /etc/init.d directory07:46
nosrednaekimI think thats in system settings-> advanced-> services07:46
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nosrednaekimjoaomario: not so...07:46
nosrednaekimsome of those don't start on boot.07:46
nosrednaekimthats just all of the services07:46
tecnico2=)07:46
tecnico2perfect, thank you nosrednaekim07:46
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joaomariook07:46
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tecnico2i'm a newbie with Ubuntu i ever use red hat ;)07:47
nosrednaekimahh.,07:47
joaomariothe one's which start on boot are placed on the rc.[0-6]  directories?07:47
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nosrednaekimjoaomario: yes.. depending on the runlevel.07:48
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joaomarioso, does the command sudo rebbot 3, would take me to runlevel 3?07:49
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nosrednaekimno... I think its " init 3" or something like that/07:50
joaomariook thanks07:50
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tecnico2it's #init 307:51
nosrednaekim:)07:51
karthikp_Okay, I have a question/gripe.07:51
nosrednaekimgo ahead07:51
karthikp_I have this 80 gig FAT32 partition07:51
karthikp_So, when I boot up kubuntu, it starts up this progress bar till it hits dosfsck07:51
karthikp_Then, it reverts to the text-type boot up.07:52
karthikp_Can I make it stay in either one?07:52
nosrednaekimkarthikp_: ok.. does that for me too07:52
karthikp_Like either show me a graphical progress bar all the way07:52
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karthikp_Or the textual one.07:52
nosrednaekimkarthikp_: I don't know...07:52
nosrednaekimwell.. you can do "nosplash" on boot for no splash07:53
tecnico2thanks to all, bye guyz07:53
karthikp_So, that'd give me a text scroll all the way?07:53
nosrednaekimkarthikp_: I think so07:54
nosrednaekimit might be "splash=silent"07:54
nosrednaekimI forget07:54
karthikp_I'll try both...07:54
nosrednaekimlol07:54
karthikp_It's in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file, right?07:54
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karthikp_(I meant one at a time... :) )07:55
nosrednaekimyah, but you can try it live on boot07:55
nosrednaekimjust hit "e" over the entry you want to edit07:55
karthikp_Editing the grub menu?07:55
karthikp_Right.07:55
karthikp_Do you think perhaps, that it's basically timing out on dosfsck?07:55
moj0risingNot sure if this is the right place for this question but, on my ftp server, users can navigate to each other's directories, though they can't list the contents...07:55
karthikp_Like it waits for some status message from it and never gets it.07:56
moj0rising...is there any way to prevent them from getting in the directories in the first place?07:56
moj0risingOr is that even a security issue at all?07:56
karthikp_So, it drops out of the splash level to the text thing...?07:56
nosrednaekimkarthikp_: yeah...might be something with that.07:56
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nosrednaekimyou can disable the checking of the dos partition07:56
karthikp_Does it happen to all users with a fat32 partition, or just to some with large ones?07:57
nosrednaekimI get it...07:57
nosrednaekimsometimes.07:57
karthikp_Yeah, but sometimes windows might mess it up. Isn't it safer to check?07:57
nosrednaekimbut I have a 30Gig partition07:57
nosrednaekimkarthikp_: do it manually every once in while07:57
karthikp_Mine's over 80 G...07:57
karthikp_After every Half Life session, eh? :)07:58
nosrednaekimhehe07:58
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JohnFluxMine is 15"07:58
joaomarioIs the reiserFS worth using it?07:58
nosrednaekimjoaomario: not really07:58
Bob_hello everyone07:58
JohnFluxjoaomario: depends if you have any data you need corrupted07:58
karthikp_@nosrednaekin: Why not?07:58
nosrednaekimjoaomario: it increases CPU use as well07:58
Bob_any clues as to how i can make an installed program appear on my k menu?07:58
nosrednaekimkarthikp_: I never saw any performance gain.07:59
joaomarioi heard it is fast but unstable.07:59
karthikp_Right. Me neither.07:59
nosrednaekimBob_: yes, you can edit your kmenu07:59
karthikp_Heard it was fast, too.07:59
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nosrednaekimkarthikp_: I just use ext307:59
karthikp_Coincidentally, I read a Wired article on the man himself. He's in prison.07:59
Cris987hello everyone07:59
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nosrednaekimyeah I read that too07:59
Bob_nosred- but will i have to manually select the program fron the filesystem?07:59
Cris987i was editing my xorg08:00
omega__hy again08:00
joaomarioi read that too08:00
omega__to all08:00
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Cris987just commenting out the wacom lines08:00
Cris987and it seems like  i messed up08:00
Cris987my system wont boot now (using bro computer)08:00
nosrednaekimBob_: no.... not if you can simply run it from the konsole with a "<program name>08:00
joaomariomaybe the best thing to do is stick to the ext3/ext2 fs.08:00
Cris987when i boot, all it gives is a flashing cursor08:00
omega__i know that i should read the forum for my problem08:01
Bob_well my kmail has dissappeared and the pkg mgr says it's installed, but i can't find it08:01
nosrednaekimCris987: is that b4 or after grub?08:01
Cris987after grub08:01
nosrednaekimBob_: that happened to me08:01
b0hahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27299/08:01
Cris987how can i restore my backuped xorg file?08:01
omega__but i don't understand all that is write in there08:01
b0hawhy do i get this error08:01
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Bob_well thankyou for your help08:02
omega__so is easy for me to ask in here for help08:02
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nosrednaekimBob_: just edit the menu, and put "kmail" in as the command08:02
slow-motionhallo08:02
omega__when is someone good to help me08:02
Cris987anyone?08:02
Bob_ok, i see it now. why didn't i think of that already? will any installed programrun with a one word command?08:03
Cris987how to i boot my system to command line?08:03
omega__so i ask again for help08:03
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nosrednaekimCris987: did you try booting command line?08:03
nosrednaekimBob_: pretty much08:03
Cris987how do i boot command line?08:03
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nosrednaekimCris987: sorry... did you boot recovery mode?08:03
Bob_nosred : many thanks08:03
nosrednaekimNP08:04
Cris987i think i've tried booting recovery mode once08:04
omega__how can i know that my nvidia driver is the good one and the last08:04
Cris987but it just sorta froze after a list of statements08:04
omega__can anyone help me08:04
omega__?08:04
omega__pls?08:04
nosrednaekimomega__: what is your problem?08:04
joaomarioomega_, I have quadro fx 1500, and i just get it to work properly with the new nvidia driver.08:05
nosrednaekimCris987: hmm what was the last message?08:05
Cris987holdon, let me try again thru recovery mode08:05
omega__my beryl don't want to start08:05
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joaomariofirst you have to configure your video card properly then beryl will work08:05
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omega__i have an nvidia  mx44008:06
nosrednaekimomega__: doesn't start at all?08:06
omega__yes08:06
omega__at all08:06
nosrednaekimhow old is that card?08:06
omega__is tryin08:06
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nosrednaekimmore than 3 years?08:06
omega__aaa08:06
oem_is gentoo rubbish?08:06
nosrednaekimoem_: no08:06
athenano, lol08:06
omega__i don't think so08:07
athenait's just not for noobs08:07
oem_yer08:07
athenaand the impatient08:07
omega__it has work oance08:07
oem_have to sit for a while to work it out08:07
oem_it has work oance?08:07
athenaand compiling takes forever :-\08:07
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omega__first time work just fine08:08
oem_o08:08
oem_ok08:08
oem_kubuntu seems good08:08
omega__ye08:08
oem_probably the best distro i have tried so far08:08
omega__i have to get out for a while08:08
omega__tanks to all08:08
joaomarioI think you should go to nvidia.com and look for a driver08:08
omega__thanks08:09
joaomariook08:09
theotick_mx440 was produced in '02. so its 5 years old08:09
nosrednaekimoem_: yeah its pretty good for 32 bit08:09
nosrednaekimyeah.,.. that means he need the legacy drivers.... thats what I thought08:09
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Cris987okay, i successfully got into recovery mode08:09
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Cris987so i'm gonna try restoring my xorg file08:10
Cris987hope it works08:10
navetshow can i get my printer set up?08:10
nosrednaekimCris987:08:11
nosrednaekimok08:11
nosrednaekimno error this time?08:11
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b0hahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27299/08:17
b0haanyone?08:17
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underdog5004 b0ha what's the problem?08:17
underdog5004maybe I can help08:17
Cris987hello, back08:17
Cris987restored my xorg08:17
nosrednaekimdid it work?08:17
Cris987yup08:18
nosrednaekimcool08:18
nosrednaekimdon't worry about the wacom stuff08:18
underdog5004b0ha, try typing in sudo apt-get install -f08:18
Cris987but kontact still dosen't run for me08:18
nosrednaekimCris987: whats it do?08:18
b0haunderdog5004: i got this error when i try to install something08:18
underdog5004b0ha, anything?08:18
nosrednaekimwas that happening before you messed with X?08:18
Cris987the kontact icon flashes a few times, brings up a blank system tray icon, and that's it08:19
nosrednaekimrun it from the konsole08:19
Cris987should i try reinstalling it or something?08:19
b0haunderdog5004: i get the same error08:19
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underdog5004weird...what were you installing when this first happened?08:19
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b0haunderdog5004: ntfs-3g08:20
astanhello folks. what creates xorg.conf during installation? and how can i trigger this operation again from command line?08:20
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Cris987http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27306/plain/08:20
underdog5004b0ha, hmm, did it install correctly?08:20
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nosrednaekimastan: "dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xorg08:20
joaomarioyep Cris, that's what I thought would be the best solution for you.08:21
nosrednaekim*xserver-xorg08:21
b0haunderdog5004: well i followed tutorial08:21
astannosrednaekim: thanks.08:21
underdog5004b0ha, yeah, but did ntfs-3g install correctly or were there errors?08:21
b0haunderdog5004: im noob on linux so i dont know if everything went well08:21
Cris987joaomario: what solution?08:21
underdog5004b0ha, no problem08:21
underdog5004b0ha, try typing in sudo apt-get install -f08:21
nosrednaekimCris987: ouch...08:22
joaomariouninstalling it, removing te configuration files and then reinstalling08:22
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nosrednaekimreinstall kontact08:22
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Cris987okay08:22
nosrednaekimat least try08:22
nosrednaekimcompletely remove it.08:22
nosrednaekimthen install it08:22
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b0haunderdog5004: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27299/ i get this08:23
joaomariobut, yes, nosrednaekin, she has to uninstall it with the option to take out the configuration files....which one is it I don't remember08:23
underdog5004b0ha, try sudo apt-get remove --purge ntfs-3g08:23
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nosrednaekimI think thats completely remove...might be "purge" from the command line08:24
b0haunderdog5004: it doesnt remove it, still same error :S08:24
nosrednaekimyeah.. its purge08:24
nosrednaekimadd the --purge option08:25
underdog5004b0ha, sorry, I can't think of anything else... try googling for you error08:25
b0haok, tnx for your help anyway08:26
Cris987when i try to remove kontact...08:27
Cris987it tries to remove kdesktop as well...08:27
nosrednaekimCris987: ouch.08:27
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Cris987do it anyways?08:28
zorglu_!ming08:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:28
zorglu_!info ming08:28
nosrednaekimCris987: does kmail work?08:28
astanhm. somehow all my fonts look very small all of a sudden and i'm not sure what i could have changed in my xorg configuration.. any ideas? i'm using 9 pt for most fonts in KDE, but they look more like 7 (or even 6) pt to me on screen :/08:28
ubotuPackage ming does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:28
zorglu_bad ubotu08:28
Cris987yes, kmail works08:28
Cris987korganizer doesn't work08:28
Cris987neither does akregrator08:28
nosrednaekimah.08:29
nosrednaekimhmm08:29
nosrednaekimsounds like a nasty little bug to me.08:29
joaomarioare u on feisty, cris, because I tried to remove it, and it just attempted to remove kontact08:30
nosrednaekimyou might trying to go over to #kubuntu-devel, but make sure you say in no uncertain terms that it is a bug... don't make it sound like a "help" request08:30
Cris987no, i'm still on dapper...08:30
nosrednaekimoh.08:31
Cris987does that make a lot of difference?08:31
nosrednaekimit might.08:32
joaomariothats why. how could apt just attempt to remove that only package.... hummm....08:32
athenaomg, my firefox is leaking memory!!!08:32
athenanooo!!!08:32
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nosrednaekimathena: whats new?08:32
hammerhi08:32
nosrednaekimhi08:32
athenaI liek left it open for 3 days and its liek using liek 20M!!!!!!08:32
athenanooo!! bad firefox! bad!08:32
TFrogathena, at least it isn't as bad as MS IE's memory leak. that's been around for almost a decade without a fix08:33
hammeri've accidentally formatted fat32 partition (into fat32 =) Is it possible to restore data from linux08:33
hammer?08:33
athena(apparently the sarcasm was lost)08:33
nosrednaekim20M isn't THAT bad08:33
nosrednaekimhammer: not if you did a mkfs.vfat or such08:33
athenaif you formatted as in zeroed the fs, hell no08:33
TFroghammer, there is a winbloze app for retrieving lost linux data08:33
athenawtf is winbloze?08:34
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athenahmm?08:34
nosrednaekimwindows08:34
TFrogMS crap08:34
hammerwindoze apps found the data, but i don't have so much freespace08:34
hammerin win08:34
joaomarioKonqueror is getting better and better as time passes, hu?!?!08:34
athenaif you mean Windows, why not just say... Windows?08:34
athenagod, f***ing trolls08:34
nosrednaekimjoaomario: thatsthe way things go.08:34
athenajoaomario, eh, I'd hope so..08:34
nosrednaekimathena: calm down... you can't start a flame war saying things like that on this channel08:35
joaomariothanks God.08:35
nosrednaekim!linus08:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:35
TFroghammer, go download a copy of R-linux. it may help you out in that instance08:35
TeraDyneathena: welcome to the world of FOSS fans08:35
nosrednaekim!Linus Torvalds08:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linus torvalds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:35
nosrednaekimstupid BOT!08:35
TeraDyne!botabuse08:35
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...08:35
athenasee? linus doesn't exist08:35
nosrednaekimhehe... I's kiddin08:35
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nosrednaekimnow what would happen if i put in RMS...08:36
athena!rms08:36
uboturms is Richard Matthew Stallman, founder of the GNU project. See !gnu and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman08:36
nosrednaekimhmph..08:36
athenaso RMS is greater than Linus!08:36
binks_how can i force my cd drive to unmount08:36
nosrednaekimsomeone needs to put LInux in there.08:36
joaomarioubelievable08:36
athenabinks_, umount -fl /dev/cdrom08:36
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nosrednaekim!LT08:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:37
athena!enoughbotabuse08:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about enoughbotabuse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:37
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binks_athena: i had to sudo but it worked cheers08:37
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joaomariothis two guys sand the community hould get together to the best of all08:37
athenabinks_, :-)08:37
binks_anyone installed linux media center08:38
athenabut remember never to use that command on a read/write fs, or you'll break it08:38
TeraDyne!ask | binks_08:38
ubotubinks_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:38
binks_cheers i forgot the cmd already08:38
binks_TeraDyne: i didnt08:38
TeraDyne<binks_> anyone installed linux media center08:38
nosrednaekimbinks_: nope.. I hear its good08:39
nosrednaekimthoght08:39
nosrednaekim*though08:39
nosrednaekimman I can't spell today08:39
binks_i was asking if anyone had installed it08:39
binks_nosrednaekim: blame the batteries in the keyboard i do08:39
nosrednaekimI have a laptop.08:39
nosrednaekim:)08:39
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binks_even better blame fat fingers :)08:40
TeraDynebinks_: ah, ok. Normally, people don't ask that kind of question unless they need help with it. Not here, anyway.08:40
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binks_no started the install yet08:40
TeraDynenosrednaekim: I'm also using a laptop. I should break out the usb keyboard, but I'm either to busy or to lazy, depending on the time of day.08:40
nosrednaekimmy keyboard is nice... I don't mind it...08:41
nosrednaekimbut I *hate* touch pads08:41
joaomariome too08:41
nosrednaekimand my usb mouse just broke08:41
nosrednaekimm$ junk08:41
TeraDynenosrednaekim: which is why I use a mouse, and keep about three in reserve08:42
nosrednaekimi'm using my brothers (dont tell him)08:42
athenawtf is m$?08:42
joaomarioi have to get out to buy a mouse, because this touch pad is really annoying08:42
athenabut anyway, what's the arabic support channel?08:42
nosrednaekimmicrosoft08:42
athenano, microsoft is ms08:42
nosrednaekimlol... more trolling08:42
athenabut anyway, what's the arabic support channel?08:42
joaomario!ms08:42
TeraDynenosrednaekim: I chucked a mouse across the room one time. broke it to bits08:42
nosrednaekim!arabic08:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:42
ubotuFor the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa08:42
athenaah, -sa08:42
nosrednaekim!windows08:43
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents08:43
joaomariogreat answer ubotu08:43
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nosrednaekim!botsnack\08:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botsnack\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:43
nosrednaekim!botsnack08:43
TeraDyneXD08:43
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!08:43
athenasee, troll comments like that are why nobody likes F/OSS08:43
joaomariohave you guys read about vista blocking searches on google?08:44
Tm_Tathena: nobody?08:44
Tm_Tjoaomario: offtopic08:44
TeraDyneathena: if that were true, slashdot and digg would be dead08:44
athenaTm_T, yes, nobody08:44
freepenguinhello everybody08:44
Tm_Tathena: who's this "nobody" ?08:44
athenaTeraDyne, that's because slashdot and digg are full of nobodies08:44
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athenaTm_T, http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=geek&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=208:44
athenathat's a nobody08:44
nosrednaekimhello08:45
athenaanyway, back on topic..08:45
athena!hello | Freejack_CSI08:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:45
athena...08:45
athenastupid bot.... stupid tab completion...08:45
TeraDyneathena: I tried that earlier08:45
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freepenguinhello everybody08:47
nosrednaekimhello08:47
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TeraDyneCan anyone recommend a good financial program?08:47
nosrednaekimgnucash08:48
TeraDyne!hi | freepenguin08:48
ubotufreepenguin: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!08:48
waylandbillKMyMoney is simple to use.08:48
TeraDyne!KMyMoney08:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmymoney - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:48
freepenguinubotu, TeraDyne  Hello08:48
waylandbill!info KMyMoney08:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about teradyne  hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:48
nosrednaekim!gnucash08:48
ubotuPackage kmymoney does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnucash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:48
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nosrednaekim!info gnucash08:48
ubotugnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.2-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2065 kB, installed size 6512 kB08:48
joaomario!kmymoney208:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmymoney2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:48
TeraDynenosrednaekim: thanks.08:49
waylandbill!info kmymoney208:49
ubotukmymoney2: personal finance manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 6680 kB, installed size 13200 kB08:49
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waylandbilla little bigger than gnucash, but the familiar kde interface is a bonus.08:49
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Schuenemann!sopcast08:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sopcast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:49
joaomarioyes, a good bonus08:50
TeraDynewaylandbill: Thanks. Now I know what to put into aptitude.08:50
Schuenemannhas anybody ever used a program called sopcast in linux (tv p2p) ?08:50
nosrednaekim!bug 108:51
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents08:51
nosrednaekimhuh?08:51
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comosicusi whant to upload a picture in a site...under my picture is "006.jpg" and under that is "jpeg image"...but when i whant to upload her in to that site i can't do it becous is telling me that my picture is not a jpg standard.....whay?what can i do?08:52
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theotick_!bug 108:53
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents08:53
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nosrednaekimthats odd08:53
nosrednaekimbug #108:53
Schuenemann!bug08:53
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots08:53
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comosicussomeone08:55
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joaomariohow can I help?08:57
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comosicusi whant to upload a picture in a site...under my picture is "006.jpg" and under that is "jpeg image"...but when i whant to upload her in to that site i can't do it becous is telling me that my picture is not a jpg standard.....whay?what can i do?08:58
comosicustry this08:59
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comosicus10x08:59
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comosicusnu thanks08:59
comosicusno08:59
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joaomariohuuummmm08:59
Cris987hi...08:59
nosrednaekimCris987: no sure if thats the place to go..08:59
Cris987umm, what's the kubuntu-dev irc channel again?08:59
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SchuenemannI installed a program using wine. I chose to install on 'c:\sop'. How can I find out where is that?09:00
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nosrednaekim#kubuntu-devel09:00
Tm_Tnosrednaekim: yeah yeah09:00
nosrednaekimits in .wine I think09:00
comosicusthat's better09:00
Schuenemannthanks09:00
Tm_TSchuenemann: ~/.wine/drive_c/09:00
joaomariotry opening the picture and saving it again with another name. Make sure you choose Jpeg format.09:00
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Cris987hi guys09:03
nosrednaekimhi09:03
Cris987i was able to run kontact fine with a new user09:03
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SchuenemannTm_T, I see no .exe there09:03
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Cris987so a guy on kubuntu-dev says that it must be a config file problem09:03
joaomariohi, thats great.09:03
Cris987any clue what i can do to fix that?09:04
Schuenemann.ocx is windows executable?09:04
comosicusi was having 3 or 4 question for you in the past...never but never i recived no answere....what are the question that you answere on this channel:"how to turn on my computer?"09:04
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comosicusniceeeee09:04
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underdog5004comosicus, everything ok? anything I can help with?09:05
nosrednaekimCris987: delete all the relevant config files in .kde09:05
comosicusi whant to upload a picture in a site...under my picture is "006.jpg" and under that is "jpeg image"...but when i whant to upload her in to that site i can't do it becous is telling me that my picture is not a jpg standard.....whay?what can i do?09:05
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Cris987...how do i know which one is relevant?09:05
Schuenemannnosrednaekim, is ocx an executable?09:05
comosicusit's not hard but..i so spupid...........09:05
underdog5004comosicus, try opening the photo with photo editor and saving it as a jpg09:05
comosicusi'm so stupid09:05
comosicusi did that09:05
administrator>hi everyone, IDK if you remember my problem but basically my system has a problem running terminal, I know so because it doesn't work in kubuntu here or kubuntu LIVE CD, I was told to do a memtest and I did for an hour and got no errors, whats my next step? xterm works but default terminal in kubuntu doesn't and I know its not a configuration issue its something to do with my coputer itself09:06
nosrednaekimSchuenemann: dunno..09:06
comosicusi save it "  avaris.jpg  "09:06
comosicusand nothing09:06
nosrednaekimadministrator: you mean command line mode?09:06
underdog5004comosicus, then it may be a problem with the website...do they accept any other kind of format?09:06
comosicusanother ideea?!09:06
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comosicusno..that is the only kind of format that they accept09:07
administratoryes, default terminal under applications > accessories > terminal I click it and I get a blank screen then a screen with text (log stuff saying [ OK ]  etc.) then It goes back to hte login screen09:07
comosicusbut i don't think the problem is theire09:07
comosicusmaybe you have another ideea?09:07
underdog5004comosicus, weird...in this case, I would say that google is your friend09:07
nosrednaekimadministrator: and what do you need the command line for?09:08
administratorI need it to work09:08
administratorSamba, etc...09:08
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nosrednaekimadministrator: what are you doning to go to the command line?09:08
comosicusnever let me down...google i mean.... :)09:08
Dakokihi09:08
comosicusthanks09:08
underdog5004administrator, have you tried installing a different terminal emulator?09:08
Dakokisomebody knows where are icons stored?09:08
joaomariobye everyone.... I'm going09:08
underdog5004administrator, I like rxvt, personally. It's nice and light09:08
administratorunderdog5004, I have xterm09:08
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nosrednaekimDakoki: some of them are in /usr/share/cons09:08
bonbonthejonadministrator: is it logging out?09:09
Dakokiok09:09
Dakokithanks09:09
administratorunderdog5004 OK suggestion taken, but how I get rid of the one under accessoreis09:09
administrator@ bonbonthejon yes09:09
Dakokiiv got grazy trying to find them09:09
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bonbonthejonadministrator: can you open xterm and try running konsole and see what it says09:09
administrator@ bonbonthejon I click the terminal application under accessories, goes to some sceren with log text on it and logs me out to default login screen09:09
underdog5004I'm not sure...I don't use gnome...but there should be some kind of panel modification app under System => Administration or Preferences09:09
administrator@ bonbonthejon it says it isn't installed09:10
bonbonthejonadministrator: wait, this is gnome? you should ask in #kubuntu then09:10
bonbonthejons/#kubuntu/@ubuntu09:10
underdog5004lol, you should ask in #ubuntu09:10
administratorwhat is this?09:10
nosrednaekimthis IS #kubuntu09:10
bonbonthejonI can't type09:10
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administratorThats what I'm running09:10
SayersDo I have a Alarm Clock?09:10
administratorwhats gnome?09:10
administratorI downloaded and installed Kubuntu09:10
nosrednaekimadministrator: alternative desktop environment09:10
underdog5004administrator, gnome is a desktop environment09:11
TeraDyne!gnome09:11
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.09:11
administratorKubuntu uses KDE Right?09:11
underdog5004yup09:11
TeraDyneyes09:11
administratorAnyway, why would my terminal be broken?09:11
underdog5004I thought you were using gnome09:11
administratorNo09:11
underdog5004ok09:11
administratorI mean I guess not09:11
administratordefault Kubuntu install09:11
bonbonthejonadministrator: open xterm and run konsole and tell me what it says09:11
administratorNow whats weird, on LIve CD I have the same problem09:11
underdog5004maybe you burned the disk on too high of a speed and corrupted that part?09:11
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administratorno09:12
underdog5004what speed did you burn it at?09:12
administratorchecked the disk09:12
administratorI validated the integrity and it says its fine09:12
nosrednaekimadministrator: might be something funny with your graphics card.09:12
administratorator@Venetia:~$ The program 'konsole' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:09:12
administratorbash: The: command not found09:12
obelix_list09:12
administratoradministrator@Venetia:~$ sudo apt-get install konsole09:12
underdog5004whoa....09:12
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underdog5004there is something weird there...09:13
bonbonthejonI didnt think it was possible to uninstall konsole from kde09:13
TeraDyneadministrator: that's really odd. That disk shouldn't have checked out09:13
administratorit did .... :(09:13
underdog5004reburn the disk09:13
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underdog5004at 4x09:13
administratorok09:13
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randomananyone know whats causing this09:14
randomanhi guys, when I go to the system settings,Monitor & Display. It gives me an error " An erro occured during your last kde upgrade leaving an orphaned control module" " you home old thrid party modules lying around"09:14
randoman?09:14
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BluesKajrandoman, sudo dpkg --configure -a09:15
administratorusing this guide BTW http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/06/05/build_your_own_server/109:15
underdog5004randoman, did you upgrade to kde4?09:16
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bonbonthejonadministrator: you using xubuntu??09:16
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BluesKajrandoman, then sudo aptitude update09:17
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randomanum no09:17
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underdog5004administrator, I read that guide before... I thought it was pretty crappy, personally09:17
randomani installed kde-core then kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu 7.0409:17
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randomank09:17
randomanthanks guys09:17
randomanill try that09:17
administratorim using xubuntu09:18
TeraDyne!xubuntu09:18
ubotuxubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels09:18
underdog5004you said kubuntu09:18
administratorWait now I'm confused whats difference between xubuntu and kubuntu09:18
randomanshould i upgrade to kde$09:18
randoman409:18
underdog5004xubuntu and kubuntu use a different desktop environment09:18
nosrednaekimrandoman: no09:18
TeraDynexubuntu uses XFCE, Kubuntu uses KDE09:18
underdog5004randoman, no it's not ready yet09:18
administrator@ underdog5004 Any other guides you suggest09:18
underdog5004administrator, yep...gimme a sec09:18
administratorso whats better xubuntu or kubuntu09:18
randomanfor sure09:18
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randomanwell you guys are genious09:19
randomanfixed09:19
randoman:P09:19
BluesKajabsolutely not ready, randoman09:19
randomanthanks a million09:19
TeraDyneadministrator: it depends on preference, really. I suggest trying them both.09:19
BluesKajgood :)09:19
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underdog5004http://howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu704 if you want to use fiesty09:19
GrahamAadministrator: Kubuntu09:20
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underdog5004administrator, I like kubuntu for higher-end machines...xubuntu for lowend machines...cli for servers09:20
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underdog5004I like vanilla ubuntu for nothing...gnome sucks09:21
administratorI'm trying to run a simple home server09:21
administratorSo CLI is ubuntu distro?09:21
TeraDyneunderdog5004: define "higher-end"09:21
underdog5004cli == command line interface09:21
nosrednaekimno... thats what you use then you are on the terminal only09:21
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underdog5004teradyne...proc>=900Mhz with at least 256Mb RAM09:21
administratorSee IDK how to use one of those which is why  http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/06/05/build_your_own_server/1 I think is good for me09:22
nosrednaekimthat sounds about right09:22
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TeraDyneunderdog5004: ok.09:22
underdog5004lol, I'm poor, so that's moderately high-end for me09:22
administratorI'm on a slow machine and trying to run a server thats why http://howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu704 shouldn't work09:22
underdog5004administrator, no, it'll work09:22
underdog5004I've got it installed on a 900Mhz with 512Mb RAM...but it still would with 128Mb RAM09:23
underdog5004bittorrent client server, mainly09:23
underdog5004and file server09:23
nosrednaekimadministrator: ok, just follow that tutorial!09:23
administratorOK thats exactly what I need bittorent and file server09:23
nosrednaekimadministrator: you don't need the base CLI.... xterm will work fine09:23
bonbonthejonadministrator: the howtoforge sets up a CLI server, it would be better than installing XFCE or KDE09:23
administratorThats what you use09:23
underdog5004so go for it09:23
administratornosrednaekin I know I'm just trying to find out why it crashes my system09:24
administratorBy helping you guys to fix this anomali09:24
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underdog5004administrator, when you use just the CLI, you free all the resources that would be used by a desktop environment09:24
underdog5004administrator, did you do memtest86?09:24
nosrednaekimadministrator: ah..ok.09:24
administratorunderdog5004 Yes memtest for 1 hour no errors09:24
administratorI'm downloading ubuntu server and yes I understand CLI freeing resources09:24
underdog5004did that test all the ram? what are the stats for the machine?09:25
administratorHowever I've never done any sort of CLI before09:25
administratoruhhhh09:25
administratorI'm not exactly sure09:25
administratorHow I get stats? What package I need?09:25
underdog5004lol, better get used to it...it's hard, but once you get it, it's so so valuable09:25
underdog5004administrator, how fast is the processor, how much ram does it have? those are the two main things.09:25
administrator@underdog5004 OK will follow that guide09:25
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administratorIf I told you I'd be guessing....700 mhz with 128 mb ram09:26
administratorI'm not exactly sure09:26
administrator2 HDD09:26
administratorIs there way via CLI to find out?09:26
nosrednaekimadministrator: lshw will tell you09:26
underdog5004administrator, rtorrent for the bittorrent client. it's totally command line based (well, ncurses, which is between a gui and a cli), and super light09:26
underdog5004administrator, lshw09:26
nosrednaekim"lshw"09:26
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nosrednaekimor for just cpu "cat /proc/cpuinfo"09:27
administrator255 mb RAM09:27
nosrednaekimand for ram "free:09:27
nosrednaekim*free09:27
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underdog5004free -m09:27
administratorP III 650 mhz09:27
underdog5004oh, that'll be plenty fast09:27
administratorfree -m ? Enter that into xterm?09:27
nosrednaekimthats Xubuntu territory09:27
administratorreally?09:27
nosrednaekimadministrator: yah09:28
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ciprian__hey09:28
administrator             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached09:28
administratorMem:           250        244          5          0          3         8209:28
nosrednaekimadministrator: yeah.... KDE is going to be slow on that.... XFCE hould run fine09:28
administrator-/+ buffers/cache:        158         9109:28
administratorSwap:          235         13        22109:28
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TeraDyne!pastebin09:28
ciprian__anybody know how can i connect on undernet ?!09:28
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:28
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Schuenemannhow can I run a .bat using wine?09:29
underdog5004Schuenemann, is that a batch file?09:29
Schuenemannye09:29
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underdog5004hmmm, try sh batchfile.bat09:30
Schuenemanna windows batch?09:30
underdog5004no, no09:30
underdog5004ummm09:30
underdog5004wine?09:30
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underdog5004do you have wine installed?09:30
Schuenemannyes09:30
underdog5004what does the batch do?09:30
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Schuenemannregsvr32 /s SopCore.ocx09:31
Schuenemannthis09:31
underdog5004o....k....09:31
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underdog5004wine batchfile.bat09:31
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underdog5004try that09:31
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Schuenemanncan't09:31
underdog5004why?09:31
Schuenemannit's for .exe only09:32
SchuenemannBad EXE format for09:32
underdog5004oh...darn09:32
underdog5004what is the function of this batch file?09:32
Schuenemannit's that line I copied09:32
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underdog5004yeah, but what does it do?09:32
SchuenemannI dunno09:33
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Schuenemannwindows registry it seems09:33
underdog5004...09:33
underdog5004why are you trying to run it?09:33
Schuenemannit's a program called sopcast09:33
underdog5004what does it do?09:33
Schuenemannfor watching tv channels p2p09:33
underdog5004ah09:33
underdog5004and it won't work with wine?09:34
Schuenemannthere isn't any exe09:34
Schuenemannjust that bat09:34
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Schuenemannthere is a DOS program called bat2exe09:34
underdog5004weird...have you looked around for a linux equivalent? I'm not familiar with sopcast...09:34
Schuenemannbut it's a .com09:34
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SchuenemannI haven't =( and the linux version is in chinese heh09:34
underdog5004ahahaha, that sucks09:35
alexisHi*09:35
nosrednaekimhi09:35
administratorUsing this guide (http://howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu704_p2) after I install it how would I put this computer in the closet and access it via my main computer...is the possible with CLI and how would I do it, I want to run it headless ASAP09:35
administratorwait nvm09:35
administratorI need to run Putty09:35
nosrednaekimadministrator: set up a ssh server09:35
administratorOK its in the guide09:35
nosrednaekimand ssh in09:36
underdog5004administrator, openssh-server09:36
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administratoron the server ssh?09:36
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administratorsu apt-get openssh-server?09:36
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nosrednaekimok09:36
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Schuenemannhow can I get rid of this annoying windows grouping in task bar?09:36
underdog5004administrator, sudo apt-get install openssh-server09:36
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administrator@ Schuenemann right click on bar, properties > its in there09:37
administratorunderdog5004 OK thanks09:37
underdog5004np09:37
Schuenemannthanks09:38
underdog5004I had such a time with my first server09:38
jlundSchuenemann: Right click on the task bar. Click 'Configure Panel'. Click on 'Taskbar' in the left hand column. Look for the drop-down that says "Group Similar Tasks" and choose Never..09:38
Schuenemannthis settings smells like microsoft09:38
underdog5004it's fun once everything is working to your satisfaction09:38
administratorunderdog5004 I know this CLI freaks me out09:38
administrator;)09:38
underdog5004!irsii09:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about irsii - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:38
underdog5004!irssi09:38
ubotuirssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help09:38
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administratorahahhh09:38
administratorI'll be back then09:39
underdog5004administrator, alrighty09:39
administratorthanks so much09:39
underdog5004I'm here all day09:39
underdog5004np09:39
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underdog5004just remember to pay it forward09:39
administratorI'll try, boy this open source utopian free idea has to work its great!!09:39
administratorlong live linux09:39
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underdog5004yep09:40
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londo4Hi there, I have this problem: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.who can help me?09:40
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ardchoille!fixapt09:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:40
nosrednaekim!adeptfix09:40
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:40
ardchoilleThank you nosrednaekim09:40
coreymon77londo4: well, do what it tells you to do09:41
Schuenemannunderdog5004, I converted it to .com09:41
underdog5004londo4, have you run sudo apt-setup09:41
coreymon77londo4: run those commands09:41
underdog5004?09:41
fritzhy, i can't get windows running from grub..it says about unrecognizeble command09:41
Schuenemannthe .bat09:41
underdog5004then do sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade09:41
zorglu_q. what is the web page url to update edgy to feisty ?09:41
underdog5004!fiesty09:41
ardchoille!upgrade09:41
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ubotuKubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php09:41
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)09:41
zorglu_thanks09:42
ardchoilleGotta love the bot :)09:42
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underdog5004londo4, how's it coming?09:42
fritzany1?09:42
bonbonthejon!windows | fritz09:42
ubotufritz: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents09:42
bonbonthejonthats not what i wanted09:43
bonbonthejon!grub | fritz09:43
ubotufritz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:43
bonbonthejonthere09:43
fritzok...nevermind that09:43
fritzi allready got the super grub cd09:43
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fritzit indeed fixed grub so i can run linux09:43
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fritzproblem is windows won't load from the grub os menu09:44
londo4I wil try to open again09:44
SlimeyPetefritz: does it crash?09:44
underdog5004londo4, so...did you do the commands?09:45
Schuenemannfritz, you could use the windows boot cd and fix the boot (will erase the mbr). Then you use that web page to recover grub09:45
jlundDo any of you guys have alarm notifications working through the Calendar in Kontact? I have tried on two machines now and no messages ever come up.09:45
londo4yes I did it09:45
fritzi did that09:45
fritzand everytime09:45
londo4but I got the same error09:45
fritzi reload grub09:45
fritzwindows appears in the list09:45
fritzbut i get09:45
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fritz"unrecognizable comand"09:46
Schuenemann!lines09:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lines - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:46
fritzor somth like that09:46
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fritzi was told to edit the menu.lst in order09:46
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fritzto add windows to the grub list09:46
fritz....that worked09:46
fritz....but windows won't start from there09:47
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londo4underdog5004: how can I open myn source code?09:47
binks!ati | binks09:47
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underdog5004londo4, I think you misundestand.09:48
underdog5004What are you trying to do?09:48
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londo4I want to know also how to open it?09:49
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underdog5004londo4, source code for what?09:50
londo4Ok, lets fixe the problem, I did the command that you told me but it did not work, what can I do next?09:50
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oslohi , i need to switch back to firefox 1.5 how can i do it ?09:51
underdog5004I don't know...maybe you should google around and find the fix. I'm not trying to be mean, but using linux doesn't mean being spoon-fed everything.09:52
underdog5004oslo, sudo apt-get install firefox=1.509:52
underdog5004I think that'll work09:52
londo4omk09:52
underdog5004londo4, I'm saying google for it because I don't know09:52
fritzcan you give me the webpage for fixing the grub after installing windows again?09:52
londo4ok09:52
underdog5004!grub | fritz09:53
ubotufritz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:53
fritzand if i follow those instructions i should be able to run windows from grub 209:53
fritzright?09:53
underdog5004 yes09:53
fritzso..i did everything09:54
fritzlike it says there09:54
fritzand after installing grub from grub super cd09:54
fritzwindows just vanishes09:54
fritzit doesen't appear in the grub os list09:54
underdog5004why do you install it from the grub super cd?09:54
fritzwell it's an alternative on the page09:54
fritzand i thought it 2 be the easyest09:54
underdog5004I know that booting from the ubuntu cd and typing sudo grub-install will work09:55
underdog5004I think...09:55
fritzaha09:55
fritzdo i run kubuntu from the cd live09:56
fritzor what do you mean booting from cd?09:56
underdog5004run kubuntu from the livecd09:56
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fritzk09:57
fritzwill do09:57
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oslounderdog5004> E: La version 1.5* de mozilla-firefox n'a pu tre trouve10:00
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osloit doesnt found the 1.5 one10:00
underdog5004oslo, you may be able to manually d/l it and install from mozilla.org10:01
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oslounderdog5004> yes, on my way :)10:03
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underdog5004ok10:03
underdog5004http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html10:04
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underdog5004oslo, go to that address10:05
zorglu_upgrading to feisty... stressfull moment :)10:05
zorglu_thansk to ubuntu for the good bw tho :)10:06
underdog5004zorglu_, just make sure you don't have beryl running when you upgrade...i went through that nightmare!10:06
zorglu_underdog5004: ok :)10:07
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oslounderdog5004> already down but thanks ..the servers are slows :/10:07
zorglu_12min remaining... and no beryl :)10:07
underdog5004oslo, yep10:07
underdog5004adios, gotta go to the park w/ my gf...if anyone sees administrator, tell him I'll be back in an hour or so.10:08
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ForrestFive got Kubuntu 6.06.1 "Dapper Drake" - Release i38610:12
ForrestFand my IBM NetVista with a p3 933mhz keeps restarting when i try to boot the livecd10:12
TeraDyneForrestF: how much RAM does it have?10:13
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ForrestF25610:13
zorglu_ForrestF: this is a 'low end' computer, you may try more recent and less hungry. e.g. xubuntu7.0410:14
zipperI accidently removed the upper menu (File - edit - settings and so on) from Amarok... Any way for me to get it back?10:14
zorglu_ForrestF: in case you got trouble with kuybuntu 6.06 i mean10:14
blizzzeki have a similar notebook running kubuntu 7.0410:14
nosrednaekimzipper: try alt.10:14
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nosrednaekimnot sure... I lost that once..10:14
ForrestFbut i never get to the splash screen (loading screen after hitting run livecd_10:14
zippernosrednaekim, "alt" alone does nothing =/10:14
blizzzekzipper: ctrl+m10:15
IstrainForrestF - has your CD (or DVD) worked in another PC.??  Just wondering if your disc is bad.10:15
zipperblizzzek, uuh wicked, thanks10:15
ForrestFyes10:15
blizzzekyou're welcome10:15
zorglu_ForrestF: this smell like bootoption10:15
nosrednaekimzipper: "ctrl+M"10:15
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zippernosrednaekim, yeah, blizzzek just told me that :)... Thanks10:15
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nosrednaekimah... blizzzek.. too fast for me.10:16
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nosrednaekimI had to go remove it to see if it worked.10:16
gvenoshi there10:16
ForrestFnosrednaekim:im going to try my 6.06 disk i got for free from you guys10:16
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gvenoshow are you Guys?10:16
nosrednaekimgreat10:16
nosrednaekimForrestF: we don't work for kubuntu!10:16
ForrestFLOL10:16
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ForrestFits a ubuntu disk, and it did crash blah10:17
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gvenostell me about ubuntu10:17
gvenosi am a new user of10:17
zorglu_ForrestF: do you have another computer ? something more recent ?10:17
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nosrednaekimgvenos: you installed it?10:17
ForrestFForrestF: nope,10:17
gvenosyes10:17
ForrestFlol10:17
gvenos2 weeks now10:18
ForrestFim going to try safe gfx mode10:18
nosrednaekimgvenos: is it working well?10:18
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gvenosand i passed Kubuntu-desktop via synaptic Package manager10:18
ForrestFwow its crashing reall fast10:18
gvenosyes without problems10:18
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jlundDoes anyone here use reminders through the Calendar in Kontact? On two different machines the alarm notifications never show up.10:19
ForrestFwhat is athe vga mode for 800x60010:19
nosrednaekimForrestF: boot without splash10:19
ForrestFk10:19
zorglu_ForrestF: do you have another computer ? something more recent ?10:19
ForrestFNo10:19
zorglu_ForrestF: here im missing something. how is that posxible ? you try live cd and you stay on irc... with a single computer ?10:19
gvenoswhy NO Forrest10:20
ForrestFwell it got to what looks like ISAPNP and then goes blank10:20
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zorglu_!tab | ForrestF10:20
ubotuForrestF: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.10:20
gvenossome mystake10:20
zorglu_0sec!10:20
ForrestFzorglu_: im on a IBM thinkpad with 64 megs of ram :)10:20
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zorglu_ForrestF: you should google to get the boot option such as noacpi10:20
fritzheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp...going desperate here...everythime i reinstall grub windows just doesen't appear in that list:((....i install it using super grub cd10:21
fritzand i should get the option of running windows 210:21
fritz:((10:21
londo4source-list open10:21
ForrestFzorglu_: from what i can tell it crashes at PCI-PNP setup10:21
gvenosi made my ubuntu like vista10:22
daminatorhi! i want to reinstall linux on my notebook soon. i've heared that there is already a version of kubuntu 7.1010:22
daminatoris it alpha or beta?10:22
zorglu_ForrestF: well you should try the boot options10:22
gvenosand mouse cursor too10:22
crdlbdaminator, alpha10:22
ForrestFi tried noacpi10:22
nosrednaekimgvenos: yeah so did I10:22
daminatorand where there will be a beta?10:22
gvenosit is very nice now10:22
gvenosnice enviroment10:22
nosrednaekimdaminator: beat is probably in at least august10:23
nosrednaekim*beta10:23
zorglu_mouaouaou downloading feisty is 14min, but installing downloaded pacakge is 40min :)10:23
daminatoroh... ok that's a long time...^^ then i will install again 7.04 :)10:23
ForrestFok im getting some where, its going out of mode for my mointer, what is the vga code for 800x600 (safe value)10:23
nosrednaekimdaminator: yeah... although I've heard the aplha of 710 is pretty stable10:23
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fritzany110:24
fritz?10:24
nosrednaekimForrestF: boot splash=silent10:24
fritz...help?10:24
gvenosyou need help fritz?10:24
fritzyes10:24
fritz...10:24
gvenosabiut?10:24
gvenosabout?10:24
daminatoryea but i'm new to linux and i really don't want to play with any bugs and this... ;)10:24
fritzheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp...going desperate here...everythime i reinstall grub windows just doesen't appear in that list:((....i install it using super grub cd10:24
fritzand i should get the option of running windows 210:25
ForrestFodd, i found out what it is, i need a ps/2 mouse installed.......10:25
gvenosyou had install ubuntu 7.04?10:25
fritzyes10:25
gvenosand what is wrong?10:25
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nosrednaekimfritz: did you try #ubuntu?10:25
fritzi installed windows after10:25
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fritzand lost grub10:26
daminatoranother question: is there any game like nethack (this style or like diablo) but for multiplayer?10:26
gvenoson the same partision?10:26
rajkalyanwho banned me10:26
fritzafter reinstalling grub10:26
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fritzi lost the capacity to load windows10:26
gvenoson the same partision?10:26
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fritzno10:26
fritzdifferent partitions10:26
ubuntup10:26
gvenosyou have your HD on paretision?10:26
zorglu_!grub| fritz10:26
ubotufritz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:26
TeraDynefritz: that's your problem. You need to manually re-add the windows entry.10:26
fritzi tryed10:27
gvenosHD partision size?10:27
zorglu_fritz: reading that may help you i think10:27
fritzrewriting10:27
fritzi allready read that 1000x times10:27
fritz8-|10:27
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fritzTeraDyne10:27
gvenosnice10:27
fritzTeraDyne i tryed rewriting the menu.lst10:27
fritzand indeed the windows option appears10:27
gvenosso reinstall  ubuntu10:28
fritzbut it can't load from it10:28
gvenosand install again10:28
gvenosthen load your drivers10:28
TeraDynefritz: did you point it to the right partition?10:28
fritzwell dunno:(10:28
fritzi'm a newb at linux10:28
TeraDyne!pastebin10:28
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:28
fritzthe guy just said10:28
gvenosthe partision for ubuntu must be totally empty10:28
TeraDyneuse that and post the contents of your menu.lst10:29
gvenosit was fritz?10:29
TeraDyneand tell me what partition you installed windows on.10:29
fritzto uncomment the things after "exemples" in the menu.lst10:29
fritzand i did and it doesen't work10:29
fritzwell kubuntu is on c10:30
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gvenosyour partition was totally epmty?10:30
fritzi have a swap10:30
gvenosempty?10:30
fritzand windows is on D10:30
fritzwhich is formatted ntfs10:30
nosrednaekimfritz: of course not...you have to change the drive number10:30
nosrednaekimso windows is your third partition?10:30
fritzyes10:30
gvenosyour windows is on NTFS10:30
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fritznosrednaekim10:31
nosrednaekimfritz: yes10:31
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daledOes anyone know any dock like apps?10:31
fritzplease point out a more detailed set of instructions10:31
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TeraDyneuse "sudo fdisk -l" in a terminal and tell me what the line that says "ntfs" says10:31
dalelike in osx10:31
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gvenostry how to install ubuntu10:32
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gvenoskanenas apo ellada re paidia?10:32
hanubuntui had to reinstall ubuntu because i couldn't install radeon9250 drivers10:32
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coreymon77dale: kdocker?10:32
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bankseyAnyone know any good P2P Programs for Kubuntu?10:32
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fritzTeraDyne10:33
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TeraDynebanksey: aMule and Frostwire10:33
daleKdocker docks the currently running apps. I want launchers.10:33
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fritzTeraDyne10:33
TeraDynefritz: ?10:33
banksey:Teradyne, Ty10:33
fritzDevice Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System10:33
fritz/dev/hda1   *           1         663     5325516   83  Linux10:33
fritz/dev/hda2             664        5005    34877115    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)10:33
fritz/dev/hda3             701        1338     5124703+   7  HPFS/NTFS10:33
fritz/dev/hda5             664         700      297139+  82  Linux swap / Solaris10:33
fritz/dev/hda6            1339        3786    19663528+   b  W95 FAT3210:33
fritz/dev/hda7            3787        5005     9791586    b  W95 FAT3210:33
fritzthis is what i get10:33
TeraDyneok. And no one use the pastebin command. Fritz, hold on just a sec10:34
PriceChild!paste > fritz (see pm from ubotu)10:34
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fritzi'm not allowed to use paste here?10:34
blizzzekfritz: for large pastest please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:35
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banksey!amule10:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about amule - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:35
TeraDyneFritz, on the line for the windows option in the menu.lst file, the one underneath "examples", there is a line that says "root", and beside it, is a part that says "(hd0,0)", right?10:35
Istrain I wondered what that meant in the topic10:36
fritzlet me see10:36
rajkalyancan somwone whwlp me10:36
gdiebeldale: kde-apps.org search for dock10:37
fritzyes10:37
fritzyes it is10:37
TeraDynechange that to read (hd0,2)10:37
TeraDyneyou should be able to get into windws after that10:37
fritzok...and in the future10:38
fritzhow will i know10:38
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fritzhow to do that...?10:38
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nosrednaekimrajkalyan: sure ask away10:38
blizzzekrajkalyan: just post your question/problem10:38
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fritzwhat\s the ideea beneath it?10:38
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TeraDyneThe first physical drive is "0", and the first partition is "0". go up from there10:38
nosrednaekimfritz: that means that your windows partition is on the third partition of the first disc10:38
fritzaha:-?10:39
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TeraDyneoh, and things like "hda1" shows what partition it is.10:39
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nosrednaekimbut grub is funny because hd0 in grub is the same as hda in linux10:41
rajkalyanyo peoples10:41
nosrednaekimand hda1 is hd0,1 which is the same as C:/ in windows10:41
nosrednaekimrajkalyan: yo10:41
rajkalyanuo10:41
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enrygood night!10:42
TeraDynenosrednaekim: you're wrong there.10:43
TeraDynenosrednaekim: hda1 is partition one, or hd0,010:43
nosrednaekimyou're right!10:43
nosrednaekimwhoos10:43
nosrednaekim*whoops10:43
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daleWhat distros are using kde 4 already?10:44
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nosrednaekimdale: none... suse has it though10:44
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TeraDynedale: none as far as I know. It's alpha software, so it's in early testing10:44
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fritzTHX GUYS...TERADYNE ESPECIALLY...IT WORKS :D (sorry 4 caps ^.^ )10:45
TeraDynedale: well, there is a LiveCD of KDE4. Let me get the link.10:45
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TeraDyneno problem, fritz10:45
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devnullthat kde4 live cd is god awful lol10:46
TeraDynedale: http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/10:46
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devnullits based on suse.10:46
nosrednaekimfritz: cool10:46
daleThanks10:46
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t1g3rhey all10:46
nosrednaekim'lo10:46
t1g3rany idea why kaffeine wouldnt play any vids?10:46
t1g3rive just finished basic install of kubuntu 7.0410:47
nosrednaekimt1g3r: what kinds of videos?10:47
t1g3rhavent had a chance to download any packages yet10:47
t1g3ravi10:47
nosrednaekimt1g3r: yeah.. you need codecs10:47
nosrednaekim!avi10:47
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:47
ohmbrhi, is there a way to set a mod of a folder like 'force direcotry mode' in smb? I want that all files that will be created be with that mod...10:47
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nosrednaekimohmbr: if you mean set permissions.. yes10:48
t1g3rah cheers, google wasnt as helpful, only got 3 results lol10:48
ohmbrnosrednaekim: yes... how can i do it?10:48
nosrednaekimohmbr: right click on the folder in konqueror10:48
nosrednaekimproperties10:48
daleThe new amorak look uglllllllly10:48
nosrednaekimpermissions10:48
nosrednaekimdale: yeah... I know... I think you can use the previos look though10:49
devnullAny kernel of the day service or more recent kernels anywhere by chance?10:49
TeraDynedale: I know. I'm considering making some Pokemon theme icons and recompiling it.10:49
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dale;P10:49
TeraDynenosrednaekim: If you find out how, tell me.10:49
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nosrednaekimTeraDyne: I just heard it mentioned somewhere10:50
devnullpokemon o.O10:50
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TeraDynedevnull: yes. I happen to be a long time fan.10:51
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TeraDynenosrednaekim: I looked through all of the options. There doesn't seem to be any way to, besides recompiling, anyway.10:52
nosrednaekimTeraDyne: hmmm10:53
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Istrain ne1 have a recommendation of newbie-friendly dead-trees for Ubuntu.??  I am looking at three (2006 & 2007) at amazon.com10:59
t1g3ru guys know of any resources on the web which list out most usb modem drivers for linux? if not kubuntu? :<11:00
Schuenemanndead trees?11:00
t1g3rive been searching for hours11:00
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Istrain I meant Kubuntu11:01
Schuenemannwhat are dead trees?11:01
binkshow can i make root on mysql have no pass again11:01
nosrednaekimhaha "books"11:01
Schuenemannoh... never heard that expression before11:01
binksnosrednaekim: real bad but i like11:01
nosrednaekimt1g3r: no clue11:01
rajkalyanelp pleaaes11:02
Istrain dead trees = books11:02
t1g3rno worries11:02
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Schuenemannbecause of the paper?11:02
binksrajkalyan: sup m8 ask away11:02
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TeraDyneIstrain: The Official Ubuntu Book and Ubuntu Desktop Hacks are both good.11:02
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Istrain Schuenemann - because I can take a book anywhere, and it is easier on my aging eyes.11:03
TeraDyneIstrain: both have sections on Kubuntu, IIRC.11:03
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bankseyHey guys, I need Java for Limwire/Frostwire, But Java isn't supported for Kunbuntu, Any ideas anyone?11:04
banksey!java11:04
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.11:04
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rajkalyanthank you11:04
Schuenemannof course it is supported11:04
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Istrain TeraDyne - thanks11:05
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Schuenemannbanksey, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre11:05
TeraDyneIstrain: no problem.11:05
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TachyonI've got a new Dell Inspiron 6400 with Vista and I want to install Kubuntu 7.04 alongside.  Just wondering if anyone's had any experience with this either way.11:05
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SchuenemannTachyon, it doesn't matter the windows version11:06
Schuenemannwindows won't even know about it11:06
devnullTachyon: do you have 2 drives?11:06
TachyonI do not11:06
coreymon77Sch] 11:06
TachyonI'm partitioning, which is why I'm asking11:07
devnullHmm I'm not sure about vista really11:07
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coreymon77Schuenemann: its not that windows will not know about it11:07
devnullthe vista bootloader is a pain in the arse11:07
rajkalyanhelp please11:07
Schuenemannwhat is it?11:07
coreymon77Schuenemann: its that windows will not  want  to know about it11:07
rajkalyanmy pcs stuck11:07
rajkalyankubuntu11:07
rajkalyanedgy11:07
Tachyondevnull: Can't I just use Grub?11:07
Schuenemanncoreymon77, but he will install vista first, right?11:08
daleHas vista been perminatly crcked yet?11:08
TeraDynerajkalyan: please be more specific11:08
Schuenemannit won't overwrite the boot11:08
BluesKajTachyon, install Kubuntu on a seperate partition, then bootinto vista download Easy BCD1.60 andyou can setup both vista and kubuntu to boot from the loader that it installs after you set it up11:08
Istrain ... until M$ develops a L11:08
binkshow can i reset the pas for root in mysql11:08
devnullrajkalyan: you can start by asking a question.11:08
bankseySchuenemann:11:08
bankseyThe following packages have unmet dependencies:11:08
banksey  limewire-basic: Depends: sun-java5-jre but it is not going to be installed or11:08
banksey                           sun-java6-jre but it is not going to be installed or11:08
banksey                           sun-java5-jdk but it is not going to be installed or11:08
banksey                           sun-java6-jdk but it is not going to be installed11:08
bankseyE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).11:08
bankseyAny ideas?11:08
devnullwhoa whoa whoa11:09
devnullpastebin please.11:09
Schuenemannbanksey, install java11:09
binksbanksey: not in here www.pastebin.org11:09
Istrain ... until M$ develops a "Linux killer" critical update =:--{011:09
TeraDyne!paste | banksey11:09
ubotubanksey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:09
BluesKajTachyon, i did it a few days ago and it worked well.11:09
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QwertManWhen you launch the Ubuntu installer off of the trial CD, does it automatically install on your C disk, or will I have the option to install it on my flash drive?11:09
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bankseySchuenemann: I just tried :P11:09
jinx_#edubuntu11:09
Schuenemannbanksey, I told you to install using apt-get, was that what you tried?11:10
devnullbanksey: and the problem is this11:10
londo4Hi there, how can I Edit Kubuntu Source.list?11:10
devnullwhen you installed java it should have asked you to accept an agreement11:10
TeraDynebanksey: use "sudo apt-get -f install"11:10
devnullif you used Adept, you have to make sure you scroll to the bottom and check a box.11:10
jinx_I ran into the same thing today installing java11:10
devnullsame the other day lol11:11
bankseyNope, I jus got the above when I tried to install...11:11
TeraDynelondo4: type "kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list"11:11
jinx_You need to scroll all the way down11:11
TeraDynein a terminal11:11
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BluesKajlondo4, alt+f2, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list11:11
devnullrajkalyan: please don't pm me to ask for help, do it in the channel.11:11
londo4Thanks11:12
TachyonHow large a swap partition should I have?11:12
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TeraDynedevnull: XD I was wondering why he went quiet11:12
devnull2x RAM11:12
TeraDyneTachyon: How much ram do you have11:12
devnullThat is what I usually do11:12
ardchoilleTachyon: 2 x your ram, but no more than 2gb.. or else it's a waste.11:12
Schuenemann2x RAM? I think that varies11:12
TeraDynedevnull: I usually have 1.5x11:12
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devnullBut if you have over 1GB of ram, 1GB of swap will do.11:12
TachyonI've got 2 GB RAM11:12
ardchoilleI have 2Gb ram and I don't think I've ever used my swap11:13
Schuenemannpeople (here) told me to use 1 GB, and I have 384 RAM11:13
devnullThen 1GB will more than do it.11:13
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underdog5004I've got a gig of ram, and I only touch swap when I 've got a VM going11:13
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underdog5004although swap is nice to have to fall back on11:13
TeraDyneWho asked the mysql password?11:13
devnulldunno if Im using mine at the moment or not ^_^11:13
devnullcan't remember the interface to lmsensors11:14
BluesKajyup 1gig is plenty for anyone11:14
TeraDynepassword question*11:14
underdog5004BluesKaj, unless you're running vista11:14
ardchoilleYeah, 1Gb swap should be good.11:14
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BluesKajwe're talking linux , here underdog5004 , not a some bloated halfbaked blind animal11:15
Schuenemannhahaha11:15
underdog5004lol11:15
BluesKaj:)11:15
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ardchoilleBluesKaj: lol11:15
TeraDynebinks: Are you still needing help with your MySQL question11:15
BluesKaji trtied vista for one day ...what a waste of time and good disk space11:15
SchuenemannI would sell my vista copy if I could11:16
devnullBluesKaj: I used vlite to strip it to the bone11:16
devnullits not bad when you get rid of all the bloated garbage11:16
Fablei am trying to install AVG antivirus but it seems like i got myself stuck in GNU nano and i dont know how to save or exit.11:16
ardchoilleBluesKaj: I stopped using Windows back in 2001 when I finally realised M$ would never get it right.11:16
TachyonI like Vista's interface, but its behaviour after less than a week has annoyed me.11:16
underdog5004BluesKaj, I work in a computer store, and I have to help people who screw up their vista boxes, or just don't know how to use it...it really _really_ stinks11:16
TachyonWhich is all the more reason to cozy up to Kubuntu11:16
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SchuenemannTachyon, have you heard about beryl or compiz?11:16
TeraDyne!offtopic11:16
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:16
TachyonI've heard of Beryl11:17
devnullI like beryl11:17
BluesKajTachyon, the constant annoying security popups and admin this and that11:17
TachyonI've never tried it because my old laptop would have collapsed into a black hole11:17
TachyonOh, I disabled all the security stuff in Vista11:17
devnullI turn that crap off.11:17
ardchoillehaha11:17
SchuenemannBeryl + touchscreen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx9FgLr9oTk&mode=related&search=11:17
Schuenemannon linux, of course11:17
devnullof course..11:18
devnulllol11:18
Fable i am trying to install AVG antivirus but it seems like i got myself stuck in GNU nano and i dont know how to save or exit so that i get it listed under system tools in the kmenu.11:18
BluesKajyeah, still din't recognize my tvtuner card and the sound quit for some unknown reason and no apps or drivers available for my needs11:18
devnullwhy in the hell do you need an antivirus Fable?11:18
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Fablei have a virus11:19
Fablesomehow11:19
devnullLOL11:19
binksTeraDyne: yes11:19
SchuenemannAVG is for windows' virus, right?11:19
Fableyes11:19
Istrain Tachyon - I tried to bail on Win 95, but Open Linux 1.3 defeated me.11:19
Schuenemannlike, not passing viruses to your windows friends11:19
TeraDynebinks: I messeged you the link, did you get it?11:19
devnullThen why are you asking that here?11:19
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Fablebecause i dont have windows11:20
rajkalyan#ubuntu-in11:20
binksTeraDyne: yes thanks alot11:20
Fablei completely uninstalled it11:20
TeraDynebinks: no problem11:20
devnullFable: save in nano is Ctrl+O, and Ctrl+X to exit11:20
Schuenemannyou made the right choice, Fable11:20
Fablethank you11:20
devnullI have vista x64 version installed11:20
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devnullbut I use it... once in a blue moon11:21
Schuenemanndevnull, have you seen that video of the touchscreen? it's cool11:21
devnullI'll check it out in a sec11:21
londo4Hi there, I try to install something and I get this message: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) What can be the problem?11:21
zorglu_hmm ok my feisty upgrade got some issues11:21
devnulllondo4: use sudo11:21
Schuenemanndevnull, it's impresive how he pull or push the screen and  the desktop is switched11:21
underdog5004!offtopic11:22
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:22
londo4devnull: yes sudo apt-get install, I did it but I get thes message:E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)11:22
devnulllondo4: do you have adept open?11:22
londo4devnull: no11:23
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devnulllondo4: any other package managers by chance?11:23
londo4devnull: no11:23
devnulllondo4: hmm can't remember how to fix a db lock in debian11:24
devnullcould -f or --force11:24
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zorglu_!fix-adept11:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fix-adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:25
zorglu_!adept-fix11:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:25
underdog5004or just rm the lock file11:25
TeraDyne!fix-apt11:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fix-apt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:25
zorglu_ok something like that :)11:25
londo4devnull: Ok11:25
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TeraDyne!aptfix | londo411:25
ubotulondo4: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 11:25
Schuenemannanyone knows which repository has pidgin (formerlly knows as gaim) ?11:26
ardchoille!info pidgin11:27
devnull!pidgin11:27
ubotuPackage pidgin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas11:27
ubotupidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.11:27
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TeraDynehttp://www.debuntu.org/pidgin-2.0.0-deb-ubuntu-feisty-fawn11:28
TeraDyneFound that thanks to google11:28
zorglu_ok my feisty fails during the boot, i mean it boot but end up in text terminal, without reaching the kdm.. is there a way to know all the log generated by the boot ?11:28
devnullzorglu_: probly an xserver problem11:28
devnulldo a nano /var/log/xorg.0.log11:29
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devnullor you can do a cat /var/log/xorg.0.log | grep (EE)11:29
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SchuenemannTeraDyne, thanks11:29
TeraDyneSchuenemann: No problem11:30
zorglu_devnull: ok looking11:30
TeraDynedevnull: That should be "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"11:30
devnullyeah my bad11:30
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devnullzorglu_: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep (EE)11:31
zorglu_devnull: Parse error on line 151 of section Extensions in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf <- doesnt smell good :)11:31
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devnullnow pastebin your xorg.conf file zorglu_11:31
ActionParsniphi all11:31
SchuenemannTeraDyne, is it safe to trust such repositories?11:31
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devnull!paste @ zorglu_11:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paste @ zorglu_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:31
devnull!paste | zorglu_11:31
ubotuzorglu_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:31
zorglu_    Option "Composite" "true" <- devnull this is line 15111:32
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TeraDyneSchuenemann: No idea. I rarely add much in the way of 3rd party repos.11:32
zorglu_devnull: i think i added that for beryl11:32
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ActionParsnipzorglu_: Beryl rocks hard11:32
devnullzorglu_:11:32
devnullSection "Extensions"11:32
devnull        Option "Composite" "Enable"11:32
devnullEndSection11:32
SchuenemannTeraDyne, maybe backports has it?11:32
londo4devnull:  I`loking for NMAP DO you know where I can find for kuntuntu?11:33
zorglu_devnull: ah ok will try. i just tried to remove it and now 'startx' works11:33
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TeraDyneSchuenemann: Again, no idea.11:33
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devnulllondo4: sudo apt-get install nmap11:34
devnulllol11:34
zorglu_devnull: ok enable works too :)11:34
devnullzorglu_: :)11:34
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devnulllondo4: if you need a frontend you can also: sudo apt-get install nmapfe11:35
zorglu_rebooting to get a 'full cycle' :)11:35
londo4devnull: I get this message E: Could not find package nmap11:35
zorglu_this is in this kind of time that i like to have 2 laptops :)11:35
Schuenemann!backpors11:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about backpors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:35
Schuenemann!backports11:36
ubotuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging11:36
devnulllondo4:  o.O11:36
devnulllondo4: type: aptitude search nmap11:36
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londo4devnull:  it did not show anything11:38
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devnull!nmap11:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:40
devnull!info nmap11:40
ubotunmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.20-1 (feisty), package size 732 kB, installed size 2644 kB11:40
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devnullcheck your sources.list11:40
markonothing to read here :)11:41
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TeraDyneSchuenemann: I see pidgin in the archive.ubuntu.com "main" pool, but it doesn't show up when I use "aptitude search pidgin"11:42
binksTeraDyne: sorry been havin my tea that worked a treat cheers (mysql011:43
londo4devnull: my source.list is open11:43
SchuenemannTeraDyne, I'm thinking about compiling it from source11:43
TeraDyneSchuenemann: That would probably be the best way right now.11:44
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devnull!main11:44
Schuenemanna compilation from source being the best way scares me11:44
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:44
devnullcompiling from source isn't bad11:44
devnullcheck that londo411:44
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Schuenemannchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler11:45
londo4devnull:  I cant find anything about nmap11:45
SchuenemannI don't have gcc?11:45
devnull-_-11:46
crimsunSchuenemann: installed build-essential ?11:46
underdog5004Schuenemann, sudo apt-get install build-essential11:46
TeraDyneSchuenemann: "sudo aptitude install build-essential"11:46
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TeraDyneHat Trick!11:46
Schuenemannnope... I thought it wasn't required because 'make' worked ;p11:46
Lars_GWho is responsible for automounting usb media? udev? kde?11:46
devnulllondo4: go into adept, click Adept->Manage Repositories11:46
devnullclick all the dag on boxes and hit ok11:47
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londo4devnull: Iam On Adept->Manage Repositories11:49
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devnulllondo4: check the boxes next the the categories and hit OK/Apply or whatever it is, let it update your cache and then try to install it again.11:50
londo4devnull:  Ok11:51
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TeraDynedevnull: Don't you have to click "fetch updates" to update the package listing?11:52
TeraDynein adept, of course.11:52
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devnullTeraDyne: nah11:53
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devnullit auto does it after you change the repos settings11:53
Schuenemannchecking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool11:53
Schuenemannwhat now?11:53
TeraDynedevnull: ah, ok. Never noticed that before.11:53
Istrain C U all l8r11:55
SchuenemannI installed build-essential and got that parse error now11:55
BluesKa1pidgin eh, heh strange lil app this11:55
Schuenemannand ugly name too :-)11:55
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TeraDynePersonally, I never liked Gaim, so I doubt I'll like pidgin.11:56
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BluesKa1has my nick wrong for one11:57
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Schuenemannwhat do you use for ICQ or gtalk?11:57
Schuenemannif you use them11:57
Tm_TKopete <311:57
BluesKa1typed it correctly everywhere else in the app why does have the #1 in it ?11:57
TeraDyneSchuenemann: Kopete11:57
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Schuenemannkopete... :-/11:57
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Lars_GWho is responsible for automounting usb media? udev or kde?11:58
devnullhmmm compiz-fusion?11:58
UbuntuServerUsercan someone clarify how to do these instructions (http://howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu704_p3?s=780e372373a12eedcb161a5a0d7e289a&) Edit /etc/apt/sources.list. Comment out or remove the installation CD from the file and make sure that the universe and multiverse repositories are enabled. It should look like this:11:58
UbuntuServerUserHow do I edit vi /etc/apt/sources.list11:59
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blizzzekUbuntuServerUser: you need root rights11:59
devnulldont use vi.11:59
devnullI HATE vi with a passion11:59
UbuntuServerUserI'm in root11:59
devnulljust use nano11:59
UbuntuServerUserI'm in via SSH11:59
TeraDyneUbuntuServerUser: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"11:59
devnulljust use nano UbuntuServerUser.12:00
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stdinUbuntuServerUser: use nano, it's much easier12:00
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jhutchins_ltUbuntuServerUser: use sudo:  sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list12:00
stdinjhutchins_lt: huh??12:00
UbuntuServerUseruse nano or vi?12:00
devnull!compiz-fusion12:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:00
UbuntuServerUserI don't need the sudo register if i'm root right?12:00
jhutchins_lt!sudo | UbuntuServerUser12:00
stdinjhutchins_lt: ahh, didn't see the :12:00
ubotuUbuntuServerUser: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:00
TeraDyne!root12:01
ubotudo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo12:01
jhutchins_ltUbuntuServerUser: Oh, no, you don't.12:01
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jhutchins_ltTeraDyne: That's a good one too.12:01
UbuntuServerUserin ssh I'm root@mycomputer:12:01
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devnulllol12:01
stdinUbuntuServerUser: sudo isn't needed then12:01
devnullI made a root password12:01
jhutchins_ltUbuntuServerUser: Ah, I see the actual question.12:01
devnullI enjoy using su from time to time12:02
jhutchins_ltUbuntuServerUser: vi is an editor, so the command is vi <filename>12:02
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SchuenemannYou must have the GLib 2.0 development headers installed to build.12:02
Schuenemannwhat package is that?12:02
UbuntuServerUserAh, ok im using nano now12:02
UbuntuServerUservi is weird I can't edit anything12:02
stdinUbuntuServerUser: If you want to use vi, but don't know how, look at "man vi" but nano is simpler12:03
ActionParsnipUbuntuServerUser: try changing to edit mode and not command mode12:03
jhutchins_ltUbuntuServerUser: vi is The Way, The Truth, and The Light12:03
UbuntuServerUserWait, nano I can't edit anything either12:03
UbuntuServerUsernvm letme figure this out12:03
jhutchins_ltUbuntuServerUser: Might as well learn to use vi then.12:03
devnull!fusion12:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:03
jhutchins_lt!vi12:03
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ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code12:03
TeraDyneSchuenemann: pachage is called "libglib2.0-dev"12:03
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TeraDynepackage*12:04
ActionParsnipEmacs is nasty12:04
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SchuenemannI won't thank you yet because I know there will be more problems12:04
UbuntuServerUserhow do I comment something out in nano12:05
UbuntuServerUserIs it just //12:05
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ActionParsnipusually #12:05
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TeraDyneUbuntuServerUser: It's "#" for the sources list12:05
ActionParsnip# coments12:05
jhutchins_ltWHoo, crashed it.12:05
jhutchins_ltUbuntuServerUser: http://www.collaborium.org/onsite/romania/UTILS/vi/index.html12:05
UbuntuServerUserSo "#" disables the code12:05
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UbuntuServerUserthanks12:05
ActionParsnipUbuntuServerUser: # means the line is ignored12:05
ActionParsnipUbuntuServerUser: well everything to the right of it12:06
UbuntuServerUser;) gotcha12:06
jhutchins_ltAlways true, unless you assume that it's true, in which case some other comment style will be correct.12:06
ActionParsnipVALUE=10       #this sets the value to 1012:06
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TeraDynejhutchins_lt: That made no sense to me12:07
UbuntuServerUserGood because I was lost too12:07
UbuntuServerUserlinuxism?12:07
ActionParsnipUbuntuServerUser: new one on me12:07
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MistaGeeI've written a utility that might be interesting or useful for other users as well... is there anyone whom I could send it?12:07
jhutchins_ltMurphy's law.  If you assume that a program respects hashmarks as comment markers, the program will actually require some other style of marking comments, like double slashes (//).12:07
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stdinnormally '#' means it's a comment/ignored, but it can sometimes be others too (eg: ';')12:08
jhutchins_ltEspecially if the line you have commented out causes bad things to happen.12:08
TeraDynejhutchins_lt: I usually assume it's whatever the other comments use.12:08
ActionParsnipMistaGee: ooh whats it do12:08
ActionParsnipMistaGee: just being nosey12:08
stdinMistaGee: what is it?12:08
MistaGeeI've had the problem that xargs doesn't encapse the file names into ", so the called program told me "04: no such file or directory"12:09
jhutchins_ltNice programmers respect most standard comment formats; good packagers include sample config files with examples of what's expected.12:09
MistaGeeso I wrote yargs, which encapses the file names into " ;)12:09
ActionParsnipMistaGee:sweet move dude12:09
MistaGeethanks12:09
coreymon77hi guys12:10
coreymon77my cdrw drive wont mount12:10
MistaGeewell, I put it under the GPL, if anyone wants to view it or something, just say so12:10
stdinMistaGee: you can make a project for it on LP and upload it there for anyone to grab12:11
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jhutchins_ltTeraDyne: If the program uses a non-standard comment format, and the program can do something bad if a comment line is not correctly ignored, the included file will not include any example comments.12:11
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MistaGeewhat is LP? :/12:11
TeraDynejhutchins_lt: Ah, ok. Got it.12:11
coreymon77can someone help me get my cdrw drive to mount12:11
stdinMistaGee: http://launchpad.net12:11
UbuntuServerUserOK so I finished editting the comments I wanted in, so how do I save---thats 'WriteOut" right? How can I "WriteOUt"?12:11
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ActionParsnipMistaGee: I'd email gnu@gnu.org and ask, then send your source to who they say12:11
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jhutchins_ltUbuntuServerUser: What did you end up editing it with?12:12
coreymon77i put a cdr disk in there and nothing happens12:12
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UbuntuServerUsernano :P12:12
MistaGeeok thanks :)12:12
stdinUbuntuServerUser: Ctrl+o12:12
UbuntuServerUserthanks12:12
stdinUbuntuServerUser: it gives usage at the bottom (^ = Ctrl+)12:12
TeraDyneor Ctrl+X wull ask if you want to save it before you close.12:12
UbuntuServerUserYea12:12
UbuntuServerUserI did C+o12:12
UbuntuServerUserbut now I did ctrl+x and it says "save modified buffer"12:13
UbuntuServerUserDidn't I already save it?12:13
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ActionParsnipcoreymon77: is it not in your /etc/fstab ?12:13
UbuntuServerUser/etc/apt/sources.list12:13
UbuntuServerUserI'm editing out CD sourcfe12:13
stdinUbuntuServerUser: try saving it again, look for any error message12:14
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