[12:16] <XVampireX> Well I got a problem with the nvidia drivers
[12:16] <XVampireX> they are freezing xorg
[12:16] <semistud2354> is there a way to open all ports
[12:16] <XVampireX> when I play games
[12:16] <waylandbill> semistud2354: dont open all ports.
[12:16] <GrahamA> What card?
[12:16] <XVampireX> 8800 GTX
[12:17] <semistud2354> y
[12:17] <mark_> Hey, I'm trying to help my dad get kubuntu up and on the internet. anyone have any experience getting a linksys usb11 wireless adapter running under kubuntu?
[12:17] <GrahamA> semistud2354: If you open all ports on your router the security will become as useful as a snooze button on a smoke alarm.
[12:17] <GrahamA> mark_: I wrote an ndiswrapper tutorial, find it on www.linuxforums.org
[12:17] <waylandbill> semistud2354: if you aren't going to use a port, why make it open?
[12:18] <GrahamA> XVampireX: The 8800 supports composite doesn't it?
[12:18] <romudog> Can someone assist me in setting up Dual Monitors?
[12:18] <semistud2354> yea but im using linux
[12:18] <XVampireX> I think it does, yeah
[12:18] <semistud2354> i thought it was near impossible to hack linux
[12:18] <XVampireX> it is near impossible
[12:19] <romudog> nvm
[12:19] <XVampireX> but there are still ways :D
[12:19] <GrahamA> semistud2354: That's... a damned stupid thing to say.
[12:19] <waylandbill> opening all the ports is like leaving the keys in your car's ignition. Probably won't get stolen, but sure does make an easy target.
[12:19] <mark_> GrahamA, He's tried the tutorial and done everything required but still no luck. He is very computer savy, but new to Linux. I've been using it for about 10 years. I used ndiswrapper on my system...
[12:19] <semistud2354> is there a way i can check if port 22 is open
[12:19] <semistud2354> a command in
[12:20] <semistud2354> konsol
[12:20] <mark_> GrahamA, he's also about 300 miles away -which makes it difficult!
[12:21] <waylandbill> semistud2354: a linux (or other) system is as secure as you want to make it. If you wan't 100% secure, don't install a network device or cable.
[12:21] <GrahamA> mark_: So you're not there to help him?
[12:22] <semistud2354> well is there a command that i can see if port 22 is open
[12:22] <waylandbill> semistud2354: of course that discounts physical security.
[12:22] <GrahamA> waylandbill: Reminds me of a funny joke I heard. A safe computer is a computer that's not connected to the internet, that's why I recommend BT internet!
[12:22] <GrahamA> XVampireX: I haven't forgotten you :)
[12:23] <mark_> No. BUT he did get another wireless adapter to work :-)  so he can get on the internet... He just wants to use hi Linksys one.
[12:23] <GrahamA> mark_: I wrote this stuff: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-tutorials-howtos-reference-material/94685-wireless-lan-linux.html#post470915
[12:23] <GrahamA> Tell him to use the XP drivers.
[12:23] <XVampireX> GrahamA: Yeah, trying to figure out what to do... need to install newer drivers, last time I screwed up hard, so probably a distro package would be good...
[12:23] <GrahamA> XVampireX: what game are you trying to run?
[12:24] <XVampireX> Nexuiz runs but on certain levels it freezes....
[12:24] <mark_> GrahamA, I'll tell him about that. He says he wants to get it running just for the "challenge" of it -I figure that's the "inux Way" anyway!
[12:24] <XVampireX> and trying to play an emu (pcsx) and it freezes as well at some point in the very beginning....
[12:24] <GrahamA> XVampireX: Try open arena from the ubuntu repository and see what happens, it's quake 3 based and I know my quake 3 well :)
[12:25] <GrahamA> mark_: A Linux enthusiast! I wish my dad was like that.
[12:25] <GrahamA> He doesn't know it yet, but the computer downstairs I fucked up, I'm wiping windows off that mofo and putting kubuntu on it!
[12:26] <semistud2354> ok...well...i have another problem...i installed virtualbox and it gave an error...i had to go into /dev/ and make this file virtualusr, or something like that, useable for anyone...but when i restart my computer i have to do it all over again...is there any way to make it stay that way
[12:26] <GrahamA> I mean, it's called tux, the hostname is tux, yet it's never had Linux on it.
[12:26] <waylandbill> GrahamA: I'm waiting for the day my daughter's windows box croaks. It'll be getting kubuntu also. Already did the wife's :-D
[12:27] <GrahamA> XVampireX: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[12:27] <XVampireX> GrahamA: I heard about freezes in the driver and it shouldn't happen, my hardware is new....
[12:27] <matthias> how can i check the video bitrate of a avi file?
[12:27] <GrahamA> XVampireX: Exactly, it's new, so it'll be buggy.
[12:27] <GrahamA> Me geforce 2 ran nexuiz fine :)
[12:27] <XVampireX> GrahamA: Why do I need that?
[12:28] <mark_> GrahamA, Yes, I agree! He bought a TRS-80 from Radio Shack in 1978 or 1980. We were the first people in our neighborhood with a computer. It had 4k !!!!! He's super smart. He has just had it with M$ and their restrictions. He's setting up a kubuntu server.
[12:28] <GrahamA> I want to be your brother so bad.
[12:28] <waylandbill> HAH! Trash 80. :-)
[12:29] <GrahamA> waylandbill: I want to convert the entire house, though I think last will be the windows domain server. I converted my friend to Kubuntu. He likes it alot, I showed him beryl, he likes it though he doesn't use it.
[12:29] <matthias> hi how can i check the bitrate of a avi file?
[12:29] <GrahamA> XVampireX: You need to make a script to do... whatever it is you want on starup
[12:29] <GrahamA> startup
[12:29] <GrahamA> *
[12:29] <XVampireX> I didn't ask for that...
[12:29] <mark_> Got to go. Thanks for the help.
[12:30] <GrahamA> mark_: Later mate
[12:30] <GrahamA> Oh bollocks! semistud2354: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[12:31] <semistud2354> theres this consol command this guy found out to get the reboot and shutdown buttions back
[12:32] <semistud2354> when you have beryl installed they go away
[12:32] <semistud2354> it maks a link to the application
[12:32] <GrahamA> semistud2354: Because you need to give the session permission to shutdown.
[12:32] <semistud2354> do i put the commands in autostart
[12:32] <GrahamA> Read the beryl guide.
[12:32] <semistud2354> or so i go ahead and make the links
[12:32] <GrahamA> You taty...
[12:32] <semistud2354> and chmmd them
[12:33] <theotick> !teamspeak
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about teamspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:34] <matthias> theotick: what is your problem
[12:34] <matthias> theotick: maybe i can help
[12:35] <rathel> I'm trying to make a script here, but I don't know how, lol I want to go through a directory and subdirectories deleting all .txt files.
[12:36] <GrahamA> !factoids
[12:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:38] <dthacker> semistud2354: how's mom? ;)
[12:38] <semistud2354> lol
[12:38] <GrahamA> !teamspeak is a Voice Over IP program mostly used by gamers.
[12:39] <semistud2354> pissed
[12:39] <semistud2354> lol
[12:39] <GrahamA> !skype
[12:39] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:39] <semistud2354> im trying to figure out something else
[12:39] <GrahamA> !botgrub
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botgrub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <dthacker> hehe, ok
[12:39] <semistud2354> theres this consol command this guy found out to get the reboot and shutdown buttions back
[12:39] <GrahamA> !botfood
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botfood - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:39] <semistud2354> when you have beryl installed they go away
[12:39] <GrahamA> !botsnack
[12:39] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[12:40] <semistud2354> it maks a link to the application
[12:40] <semistud2354> but when i restart they go away
[12:40] <GrahamA> semistud2354: Nvidia?
[12:41] <semistud2354> ati
[12:42] <semistud2354> it works...but the links go away when i restart
[12:42] <semistud2354> any way to make them perminent
[12:44] <semistud2354> ???
[12:46] <romudog> help!!!!
[12:46] <romudog> I seemed to have messed up my xorg during dual monitor install
[12:47] <romudog> Can someone help me
[12:47] <romudog> I seemed to have messed up my xorg during dual monitor install
[12:49] <romudog> Anyone??
[12:50] <romudog> plz?
[12:50] <blizzzek> I comiled the kate plugin katephpbrowser, but now i am wondering how to get it into kate.. it is not listed in the extensions in the settings :-/ anyone a hint for me?
[12:52] <romudog> wtf is no one on?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> blizzzek: kate & in a konsole
[12:53] <blizzzek> romudog: tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[12:53] <romudog> no i havent Should i?
[12:53] <GrahamA> romudog: See if there's a backup.
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> romudog: if you restore the original xorg.conf you backed up before you started playing you should be okk
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> romudog: always backup your good xorg.conf before playing
[12:54] <rodrigo_> hi
[12:54] <romudog> ActionParsnip i wasnt playing i didnt edit the xorg conf file only setup dual monitors in system settings
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> hi rodrigo_
[12:55] <blizzzek> ActionParsnip: thx
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> blizzzek: no worries
[12:55] <blizzzek> just have to find out what the exec is ... :D
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> romudog: try what blizzzek said
[12:56] <rodrigo_> Actionparsnip: how do I install the orthographic corrector in LInux?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> rodrigo_: not sure never used one really
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> rodrigo_: lemme google
[12:59] <rodrigo_> ok
[12:59] <rodrigo_> Actionparsnip: ok thanks
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> rodrigo_: you using konversation? as there is an auto spell check in there (if thats what you are after)
[12:59] <rodrigo_> nope
[01:00] <rodrigo_> Actionparsnip: Im looking to check the ortography with openoffice like in microsoft world
[01:00] <rodrigo_> particualry in spanish
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> rodrigo_: Orthographic projection is a means of representing a three-dimensional object in two dimensions. It uses multiple views of the object, from points of view rotated about the object's center through increments of 90 degrees. Equivalently, the views may be considered to be obtained by rotating the object about its center through increments of 90 degrees.
[01:03] <romudog> hi
[01:03] <romudog> im bk
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> rodrigo_: you sure thats what you need?
[01:04] <ADiCT3d> i got the monitor all done but now can someone help me setup dual monitors the right way?
[01:04] <rodrigo_> Actionparsnip: lol, not
[01:04] <rodrigo_> Actionparsnip: I need something to check out the spelling, the ortography, if the worlds are correct
[01:05] <rodrigo_> ActionParsnip: when I write something in openoffice
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> rodrigo_: # a method of representing the sounds of a language by written or printed symbols
[01:07] <rodrigo_> ActionParsnip: something like that
[01:07] <ADiCT3d> Can someone help me setyup dual monitors?
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> rodrigo_: not come across it myself but sounds really interesting
[01:09] <ramirez> ke pedo vamos opr unas morras
[01:10] <ramirez> ando en busca de una seorita que le guste ser montada como a un pony
[01:10] <nosrednaekim> !es ramirez
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es ramirez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <ramirez> hahaha
[01:11] <nosrednaekim> !es | ramirez
[01:11] <ubotu> ramirez: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:11] <ubuntu> hello
[01:11] <ramirez> aa excelente!
[01:11] <ramirez>  #ubuntu-mx
[01:12] <kalimad> I have a problem while booting into grub
[01:12] <kalimad> it says Grub loading stage1.5. and it stops there
[01:12] <nosrednaekim> kalimad: hmm.
[01:13] <nosrednaekim> where are you now?
[01:14] <kalimad> ubuntu from livecd
[01:14] <romudog> ok guys plz help me b 4 i go nutz i cant get dual minotors workin
[01:16] <romudog> HELP!!!!!
[01:17] <kalimad> me first lol
[01:17] <romudog> man i got bigger problems except mine should be simple to solve.
[01:18] <kalimad> well, you can at least get into ubuntu
[01:18] <romudog> not rlly
[01:18] <romudog> :|
[01:19] <kalimad> have you tried at #ubuntu_
[01:19] <kalimad> i mean #ubuntu
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> kalimad: ok, you are going to have to chroot what drive partition is ubutnu installed on?
[01:21] <kalimad> nosrednaekim:
[01:21] <kalimad>  /dev/hdc3            6206        6856     5229157+  83  Linu
[01:21] <kalimad> this one_
[01:21] <kalimad> ?
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> kalimad: yeah.
[01:22] <bath> Hey, I'm trying to install musictracker-0.4.1 for pidgin.  I also installed the latest version of GLib.  musictracker-0.4.1 won't compile; it says that I don't have GLib.  I have no idea what to do about this  problem.
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> ok mount that partition
[01:22] <ubuntu_> hola
[01:22] <kalimad> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ chroot /dev/hdc3
[01:22] <kalimad> chroot: cannot change root directory to /dev/hdc3: Not a directory
[01:22] <kalimad> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ mount /dev/hdc3
[01:22] <kalimad> mount: can't find /dev/hdc3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:22] <ubuntu_> alguien abla espaol?
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> !es | ubuntu_
[01:22] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:23] <nosrednaekim> kalimad: sorry "sudo mount /dev/hdc3 /mnt"
[01:23] <Clash> bye
[01:24] <kalimad> nosrednaekim: and then what?
[01:24] <nosrednaekim> kalimad: "sudo chroot /mnt" do not close that terminal
[01:24] <Valkar> i have a quick question here, is there any way for me to have access to my hardrives if i booted ubuntu from a cd?
[01:24] <kalimad> done
[01:25] <bath> Hey, I'm trying to install musictracker-0.4.1 for pidgin.  I also installed the latest version of GLib.  musictracker-0.4.1 won't compile; it says that I don't have GLib.  I have no idea what to do about this  problem.
[01:25] <nosrednaekim> kalimad: ok, now which hard drive do you have it set to boot off of in the BIOS?
[01:25] <BluesKaj> !patience | bath
[01:25] <ubotu> bath: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:25] <kalimad> i have only one hard drive
[01:25] <romudog> BluesKaj:Hi You just get on?
[01:25] <Lunar_Lamp> Is there a good application for drawing flow charts etc?
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> kalimad: then why is it called hdc?
[01:26] <BluesKaj> was having dinner etc
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> do you have two optical drives?
[01:26] <romudog> BluesKaj: Can you assist me in setting up Dual Monitors?
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> Lunar_Lamp: Inkscape.
[01:26] <kalimad> nosrednaekim: I have one optical drive and one hard drive
[01:26] <kalimad> and thats it
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> kalimad: well ok...
[01:27] <romudog> nosrednaekim: HEY!!!
[01:27] <Lunar_Lamp> nosrednaekim, thanks :-)
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> now that you are in your chroot... does it look like your linux installation?
[01:27] <BluesKaj> no expreience with dual monitors romudog :(
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> long time no see romudog
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> me neither
[01:27] <romudog> nosrednaekim: can you help me? :P
[01:27] <romudog> or no xp either?
[01:27] <nosrednaekim> kalimad: do " grub-install /dev/hdc"
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> sudo that rather
[01:28] <kalimad> root@ubuntu:/# sudo grub-install /dev/hdc
[01:28] <kalimad> /dev/hdc: Not found or not a block device.
[01:28] <nosrednaekim> do a ls /dev/hd*
[01:29] <romudog> Can someone help me setup dual monitors? Every time i do it it crashed to a console
[01:29] <nosrednaekim> kalimad: what device names do you see?
[01:30] <opensource_> someone know a good mailserver for kubuntu festy?
[01:30] <kalimad> nosrednaekim: umm, none
[01:30] <kalimad> root@ubuntu:/# sudo grub-install /dev/hdc
[01:30] <kalimad> /dev/hdc: Not found or not a block device.
[01:30] <kalimad> uh wrong paste
[01:30] <kalimad> root@ubuntu:/# ls /dev/hd*
[01:30] <kalimad> ls: /dev/hd*: No such file or directory
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> kalimad: ls /dev | grep hd
[01:31] <nosrednaekim> run that
[01:32] <kalimad> nosrednaekim: nothing
[01:32] <Chousuke> kalimad probably has a sata drive.
[01:32] <Chousuke> they are sd*
[01:32] <kalimad> Chousuke: no, its IDE
[01:32] <Meglo> I was wondering, how do I parition my active system partition so I can back up my /home on some free space?
[01:32] <Chousuke> kalimad: then something is wrong :P
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> Meglo: you can't do it while its actuve
[01:32] <kalimad> nosrednaekim: It seems that drives have dissapeared
[01:32] <nosrednaekim> kalimad: indeed
[01:32] <kalimad> when I try to run fdisk -l
[01:32] <Meglo> nosrednaekim well, how would I go about it then? The whole disk is one big partition...
[01:33] <kalimad> it says cannot open /proc/partitions
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> Meglo: boot a livecd and partition from there
[01:33] <niobeXXXXX> hola kubunteros
[01:33] <niobeXXXXX> buenos dias
[01:33] <kalimad> niobeXXXXX: #ubuntu-es
[01:33] <niobeXXXXX> alguno sabe un buen ide de desarrollo
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> kalimad: what exactly do you see when you run "ls"
[01:33] <Meglo> What software does kubuntu live CD have that can partition disks?
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> maybe you have the wrong partition
[01:33] <nosrednaekim> Meglo: qtparted
[01:34] <Meglo> thanks :D
[01:34] <niobeXXXXX> qtparted
[01:34] <kalimad> when I do a ls in dev I see everything but drives
[01:35] <kalimad> and in qtparted I can see the drives
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> kalimad: so you can see /dev and everything?
[01:35] <kalimad> yes
[01:36] <kalimad> but thez do not exist in /dev
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> kalimad: did you just do a update or something?
[01:36] <kalimad> they
[01:36] <kalimad> umm nope
[01:36] <kalimad> well, ill try to reboot then come back here
[01:37] <kalimad> brb
[01:37] <niobeXXXXX> what id programins in the newbies
[01:38] <romudog> can ANYONE assist me for dual monisors, it keeps crashing to terminal
[01:39] <romudog> Monitors*
[01:40] <BluesKaj> romudog, do you have the monitor linux drivers installed or are just using plugplay defaults?
[01:40] <romudog> they  are generic but i set the right values
[01:40] <dick-richardson> How do you enable compiz?
[01:41] <romudog> !compiz
[01:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:41] <dick-richardson> romudog: thank you!
[01:42] <BluesKaj> well romudog , I think the right linux drivers might help X from crashing
[01:42] <romudog> There are no drivers for the monitors.
[01:42] <BluesKaj> prevent
[01:42] <dick-richardson> those directions are a year old...you still need to jump through all those hoops?
[01:42] <romudog> I have the Nvidia driver for my card installed though
[01:45] <BluesKaj> yes romudog that's good,  but in my experience having the right linux monitor drivers makes a reral difference in res options and stability...most monitors have linux drivers available ...search in :  http://www.google.com/linux, to find them...I'm quite sure they exist
[01:46] <gruberror> nosrednaekim: now the drives magically reappeared :)
[01:46] <romudog> tbh i just want this to work with dual monitors..
[01:46] <romudog> I kinda miss my windows safeness
[01:46] <gruberror> have magically*
[01:46] <gruberror> :)
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> you in the livecd?
[01:47] <gruberror> nosrednaekim: yes
[01:47] <romudog> but i liike linux more becuse of its better suited for me..
[01:47] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: hum you're not in #kubuntu-offtopic I notice
[01:47] <BluesKaj> well, it takes some work but it's worth the search , romudog
[01:47] <gruberror> nosrednaekim: now let's go from the beginning again :)
[01:47] <gruberror> mount /dev/hdc1 /mnt ?
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> gruberror: are you in the chroot?
[01:48] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, no should i be ?  :)
[01:48] <Tm_T> not should, but could :)
[01:48] <ubuntu> alright
[01:49] <ubuntu> >_<
[01:49] <gruberror> nosrednaekim: do I need to mount the drive first?
[01:49] <gruberror> to get to chroot?
[01:49] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: I plugged second monitor in, quite simple
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> gruberror: yeah
[01:49] <gruberror> but what drive
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> gruberror: remember how to do that?
[01:49] <gruberror> sudo mount /dev/hdc3 ?
[01:50] <jlund> I just installed Kubuntu on my Macbook and I'm very pleased. Is anyone aware of any issues that should make me wary of installing the 3.5.7 update?
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> gruberror: I guess..
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> thats what you did b4
[01:50] <gruberror> ubuntu@ubuntu:/dev$ sudo mount /dev/hdc3
[01:50] <gruberror> mount: can't find /dev/hdc3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:50] <gruberror> ah I forgot the /mnt part :)
[01:51] <blizzzek> stillt have the problem, that i have compiled and installed kate plugin "katephpbrwoser" surccesfully, but do not know how to get it into kate. it is not listed in settings->extensions
[01:51] <blizzzek> any idea?
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> gruberror: did it work?
[01:52] <gruberror> nosrednaekim: now I'm in chroot, and the drives in /dev are gone again :/
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> gruberror: eh...
[01:53] <Meglo> sorry to bother you guys, but qtparted wont let me resize or configure any partitions, all the options are blanked out. They aren't mounted either
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> Meglo: you in the livecd?
[01:53] <Meglo> yes
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> did you start it as root?
[01:53] <Meglo> Oh
[01:53] <Meglo> sudo qtparted?
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> ie "kdesu qtparted"
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> gruberror: somethings wrong with your system..... back up any data you have on there.
[01:54] <gruberror> nosrednaekim: when I exit chroot, and do ls in dev i can see the drives
[01:54] <gruberror> but not in chroot :/
[01:55] <arriesp> aora wervo
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> yeah... somethings messed up with your installation
[01:55] <jlund> Are there any disadvantages to upgrading to the 3.5.7 packages?
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> jlund: not really
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> 3.5.6 is pretty stable
[01:55] <gruberror> nosrednaekim: I reinstalled like 3 times :/
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> gruberror: how long did this latest install last?
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> !grub
[01:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:56] <gruberror> nosrednaekim: like, 30-40 minutes
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> gruberror: oh.... so today is the first time you've tried installing
[01:57] <gruberror> nosrednaekim: yes :)
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> gruberror: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:57] <gruberror> nosrednaekim: I don't want to reinstall windows
[01:58] <Meglo> hmmm, qtparted failed to open device, error: file system has an incompatible feature enabled "QWidget::setMinimumSize: The smallest allowed size it (0,0)"
[01:58] <Meglo> that shows up in konsole
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> gruberror: no.. there is a tutorial later on on how to restore your grub without a chroot
[01:58] <gruberror> nosrednaekim: ah, ok, thnx
[02:00] <Meglo> thats after doing kdesu qtparted
[02:00] <jlund> Will security issues (if any) be covered in the 3.5.7 packages?
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> Meglo: but does it work?
[02:00] <Meglo> no
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> what command did you run, exactly
[02:01] <Meglo> kdesu qtparted
[02:01] <Meglo> x related errors occur but I think thats unrelated
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> Meglo: yeah.
[02:02] <Meglo> I can work with my other disks just fine apparently, but I'm not going to test it as i want to leave them alone
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> Meglo: right.... did you just do defualt  formatting?
[02:03] <Meglo> Its been a while but I did the default full disk format
[02:03] <Meglo> I did use qtparted to set it as an "unactive" partition
[02:03] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Hi bro guess what ive totally screwed up everything :) this is lame anyway when you get a chance to help me fix all this crap eg the non starting kde login thing and all and the part where i dont have the shutdown option..i would really appreciate it.
[02:04] <Meglo> :<
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> Meglo: when?
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> romudog: congrats..
[02:04] <Meglo> at the beginning of this livecd session
[02:04] <dick-richardson> anyone else have the kicker not come up when its auto-hidden?
[02:04] <XVampireX> Does anyone know if it's possible to watch videos higher in resolution than the monitor itself is capable of?
[02:04] <dick-richardson> alt-f1 will bring it up
[02:05] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Yeah this is really pissing me off i wish i could just reset default values of EVERYTHING and keep all my apps and current setup tho
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> romudog: hmm well you probably messed around iwth it a bit too much
[02:05] <romudog> nosrednaekim: naw its just effed i didnt do much i restored my backup xorg
[02:06] <Meglo> people tell me that PartitionMagic really sucks but I don't know anymore
[02:06] <Meglo> :/
[02:07] <Meglo> Should I try another app?
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> cfdisk. although that'll probably tell you the same thing (which I don't understant)
[02:12] <blizzzek> grml
[02:12] <Meglo> nosrednaekim: heh, GParted workd :P
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> cool.
[02:14] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Okay..I've made up my mind any chance you can help me to setup a new install of kubuntu and explain to me how to use a tool like DD to just restore everything? lmfao
[02:15] <Meglo> nosrednaekim: thanks for the help tho, it appreciate it. :)
[02:15] <romudog> nosrednaekim: i think that would be faster than getting pissed and then trying to fix it :P
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> Meglo: NP
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> romudog: dd ain't gonna help you
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> romudog: only a reinstall will.(pretty much)
[02:15] <romudog> nosrednaekim:cant it sync drives and restore?
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> it can't restore what you've messed up.
[02:16] <Sayers> Pricey: hi
[02:16] <blizzzek> ..... cannot get a kate plugin workin
[02:17] <romudog> nosrednaekim: no me reinstalling Kubuntu dd'ing the drive over to my spare drive and being able to sync after i make changes so its to my liking then if i fuck it up i can restore my main drive from the other?
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> yeah I guess that would work... keep a separate /home though
[02:18] <romudog> nosrednaekim: What do you mean? I have a 350gb drive i usually keep my stuff on
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> oh ok...
[02:18] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Does dd let me sync though?
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> romudog: no I don't think so..but rsync does
[02:19] <scott_> does anyone know how to quick email a file online (or picture)?
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[02:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:24] <dick-richardson> can you enable desktop effects in kubuntu?
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> dick-richardson: no with a simple click no..
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> dick-richardson: which desktop effects do you have?
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> compiz or beryl?
[02:25] <dick-richardson> none...just moved to kubuntu from ubuntu...had been using the stock compiz
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> dick-richardson: ah ok... run "compiz --replace"
[02:25] <dick-richardson> i lost my titlebar
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> wait a little while..
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> like a half a minute
[02:25] <dick-richardson> kk
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> start up a new program and see if that brings it back/
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> (on the new window
[02:27] <dick-richardson> not yet
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> dick-richardson: press alt+f2 and then "kwin --replace"
[02:27] <dick-richardson> yep, i'm back...no compiz
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> ok.. good
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> (that you're bacl)
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> you need beryl....
[02:28] <dick-richardson> i installed compiz-core..was there more I should have?
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> dick-richardson: was it working on gnome?
[02:28] <dick-richardson> yeah
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> are you using XGL?
[02:29] <dick-richardson> no, i believe aiglx
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> or do you have an nvidia or Intel.
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> ok...
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> well you see, beryl is better for KDE.
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> compiz os more like gnome
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> *is
[02:29] <dick-richardson> I can do that
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> just go get beryl and emerald.
[02:29] <dick-richardson> I enjoyed the beryl-manager better, anyway
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> and beryl-manager
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> yeah... beryl manager is cool
[02:31] <scott_> do you know how to email a picture quickly?
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> scott_: attach it.
 i have a right click button on firefox that sends images, but it says 'javascript: return false'
[02:33] <lmerovingio> somebody can help me with apache2 and php
[02:33] <lmerovingio> I try to install it but when I try to open a test,php appears the dialog to download it or open
[02:33] <lmerovingio> what could be?
[02:35] <cantakerous> hi
[02:35] <cantakerous> how do I remove a package?
[02:35] <cantakerous> in command line?
[02:35] <cantakerous> sudo apt-get remove foo?
[02:35] <scott_> sudo apt-get remove
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> cantakerous: yep
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> easy eh?
[02:36] <cantakerous> wait is there a way to make Firefox NOT use kaffeine-mozilla plugin?
[02:37] <cantakerous> I can't watch Apple trailers
[02:37] <cantakerous> :'-(
[02:37] <cantakerous> I might change to m$$$ XP
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> ohhh... now there is a threat
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> cantakerous: I'm sure you can... look around in the firefox settings.
[02:38] <cantakerous> is that what you want?
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> or uninstall kaffeine-mozzila
[02:38] <dick-richardson> with the state of the linux community, threatening xandros might be worse
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> cantakerous: of course not
[02:38] <scott_> you can set the file hanling prefrences in your firefox prefrences menu
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> haha
[02:38] <HomerOS> hi guys
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> or suse
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> hey
[02:39] <lmerovingio> hello, what can I do with my apache2
[02:39] <cantakerous> nothing
[02:39] <cantakerous> now why doesn't apple trailers work with Xine and it works with mplayer?
[02:39] <HomerOS> some knows something about open SUSE?
[02:39] <HomerOS> someone knows something about open SUSE?
[02:40] <dick-richardson> I know they made a deal w/the devil
[02:40] <dick-richardson> ;)
[02:40] <cantakerous> HomerOS: I am someone that knows about $u$e
[02:40] <cantakerous> HomerOS: $u$e sold out to M$$$oft XP
[02:41] <papo_> hello, I have no sound since I upgrade kubuntu. It is an ibook. Any idea?
[02:41] <cantakerous> papo_: alsamixer?
[02:41] <cantakerous> papo_: type on a term alsamixer and unmute everything
[02:42] <dick-richardson> where do you adjust plugin options in beryl?
[02:43] <romudog> hey nosrednaekim:You there?
[02:43] <papo_> it is all unmuted
[02:43] <papo_> no sound
[02:44] <romudog> Wheres the auto=mount file?
[02:44] <lmerovingio> hi again, I install apache2-php5-mysql-server-4.1 but php doesnt work, when I try to open a php appears the dialog to download it or open
[02:44] <lmerovingio> what can I do?
[02:45] <cantakerous> papo_: then I don't know
[02:45] <cantakerous> papo_: I've just solve a few stuff regarding sound
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> romudog: not really
[02:46] <romudog> nosrednaekim:i booted and its like EVERYTHING was back to normal...weird :P
[02:46] <HomerOS> what do i need to run beryl?
[02:47] <papo_> thanks anyway
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> romudog: cool
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> thats always nice
[02:48] <HomerOS> alguno en castellano?
[02:50] <papo_> si yo pero soy un gaan en linux
[02:50] <lider_> SALUDOS A TODOS DE VENEZUELA  )
[02:51] <Tm_T> lider_: uh oh, hi
[02:51] <papo_> hola lider_
[02:51] <lider_> HOLA MEN
[02:51] <lider_> que cuentas
[02:51] <Tm_T> !es | lider_
[02:51] <ubotu> lider_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:52] <papo_> muy bien gracias
[02:52] <Tm_T> english here thank you
[02:52] <lider_> ok  sorry
[02:52] <lider_> lol
[02:59] <navets_> I am using beryl and I want to take a screenshot while spinning my cube
[02:59] <navets_> how can I do this
[03:00] <draik> I'm running KDE, GNOME and SFCE
[03:00] <draik> *XFCE
[03:00] <draik> How do I make KDE my default?
[03:00] <blizzz> navets_:  i think you should have a look at a screenkast/desktop recording software, but i did not try it out
[03:01] <navets_> blizzz: k thx
[03:01] <blizzz> np
[03:02] <Tm_T> draik: doesn't it save your last selection? or ask if you like to make it to your default
[03:03] <draik> Tm_T: It does, but if I have to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, I get GNOME
[03:03] <draik> I don't get UBUNTU, it takes me to EDUBUNTU
[03:03] <Tm_T> interesting
[03:03] <draik> Yup
[03:04] <draik> This has happened since the upgrade from Edgy to Feisty
[03:04] <draik> I can't even get Beryl
[03:08] <Lunar_Lamp> !acrobat
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <Lunar_Lamp> !reader
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <Lunar_Lamp> !pdf
[03:08] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[03:12] <thedude> if I change the name of my user folder to thedude2, will that change all of my info to thedude2, or simply bork my user dir?
[03:12] <Minataku> xpdf is the best one
[03:13] <shadowhywind> hay all, having a werid problem, every cd i put in, it will play the first 6 seconds, freeze for a second, and then play the next 6 seconds and freeze again... any ideas?
[03:16] <Sayers> Are there any decent multi track studio's?
[03:16] <Sayers> and for some reason Audacity cant detect my speakers
[03:16] <waltercool> hi there
[03:17] <waltercool> i have a problem installing a linux distro and now i see gitches in grub window and not start... what can i do?
[03:17] <Sayers> doubt it is a bug
[03:17] <Sayers> probably a reacent change you did
[03:17] <Minataku> Uh
[03:18] <Minataku> Sayers: Never assume
[03:18] <Minataku> Especially assume something completely unfounded
[03:18] <Sayers> true
[03:18] <nzk> What is the modifier to make APT shut up and do what i say rather than questioning me?
[03:19] <Minataku> Chances are it may not have installed correctly
[03:19] <Minataku> nzk: Ask it
[03:19] <Minataku> Or read the manual page
[03:19] <Minataku> Or run it's command line with " < yes" at the end
[03:20] <Tm_T> nzk: apt-get --help ;)
[03:21] <Minataku> Sayers: Sorry to snap at you like that
[03:21] <Minataku> A bit pissed right now
[03:21] <nzk> What should I add to my update script for Ubuntu? http://slexy.org/paste/3256
[03:22] <nzk> Can I alias those commands as ShutUpAndUpdate?
[03:23] <Sayers> !studio
[03:23] <ubotu> ubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.
[03:25] <tucci> I'm having a dependency problem - I need lipxpcom.so and I can't find it anywhere. Any help?
[03:29] <draik> What does my nVidia video card need to play OpenGL screensavers?
[03:30] <draik> What package?
[03:31] <lmerovingio> hello, I have turion64 with kubuntu 7.04, when I install a apache,mysql,php5, and try to open test,php but appear a dialog to dowload the file or open it
[03:35] <lmerovingio> when I try to hear a mp3 file with amarok it doesn't work
[03:35] <Fr0de> !mp3
[03:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:42] <lmerovingio> mp3 isnt free?
[03:42] <jairo> I can't do this webcam work under kubuntu feisty: Bus 004 Device 003: ID 0ac8:305b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp.
[03:43] <Minataku> lmerovingio: Patent encumberance issues
[03:43] <jairo> I've been trying everything in the last two weeks...
[03:44] <Minataku> If it's not supported, it's not supported
[03:44] <jairo> gspca modules, gspca source, the tarball from the site...
[03:45] <jairo> Any help?
[03:46] <lmerovingio> I didn't knew it
[03:46] <Minataku> lmerovingio: It's not too well known
[03:46] <Minataku> That said, I use it anyway
[03:46] <Fr0de> jairo: I think my webcam at home is a Z-Star.. must be a different model, as mine works fine
[03:48] <jairo> Fr0de: I googled a lot and it looks like this webcam works fine. The module gspca is loaded, but there is no "camera type jpeg".
[03:48] <Fr0de> jairo: what programs have you tried to use the cam with?
[03:49] <jairo> kopete.
[03:49] <tom_> I lost adept with an update any ideals how to get it back I am running gusty
[03:50] <Fr0de> jairo: do you get anything in the Devices section in settings?
[03:50] <tom_> no it is a program like apt get
[03:51] <lmerovingio> appear to be working now but I dont hear anything
[03:52] <Fr0de> tom_: sudo apt-get install adept
[03:52] <jairo> Fr0de: in USB Devices -> UHCI Host Controller - PC Camera
[03:52] <tom_> ok
[03:52] <lmerovingio> minataku -  appear to be working now but I dont hear anything
[03:54] <Minataku> lmerovingio: Settings all correct?
[03:54] <tom_> now I got and error where can I paste it
[03:54] <Minataku> Audio, that is
[03:55] <Minataku> Like the volume and crap?
[03:55] <Fr0de> tom_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:57] <lmerovingio> minataku: seems to be ok
[03:57] <maxime> I have fatality error with kubuntu
[03:58] <maxime> error: could not find trash
[03:58] <tom_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27207/
[03:58] <maxime> help me please
[03:58] <Minataku> Weird
[03:58] <maxime> yes
[03:59] <maxime> please help me
[03:59] <maxime> I don't delete any files
[03:59] <Fr0de> tom_: did you do as the error suggested?
[04:00] <maxime> create a new folder to /home/maxime/...
[04:00] <tom_> yes
[04:00] <lmerovingio> ok, i dont wanna kill linux yet, another task, I installed beryl, but when I exec it the screen turns white and nothing happend
[04:00] <maxime> a ok
[04:00] <maxime> help me please!!!
[04:01] <lmerovingio> I have a nvidia 6150
[04:02] <maxime> wat?
[04:04] <maxime> thx for help :@
[04:05] <tom_> do you think I am going to have to reformat
[04:06] <Fr0de> tom_: hmm.. seeing as you're running a beta release, that might not be a bad idea. keep your /home partition, though! :)
[04:06] <tom_> how can I do that
[04:07] <tom_> in the advance part of the install
[04:07] <bryan> Cannot relogin after after screensaver locks screen
[04:07] <Fr0de> tom_: depends if you partitioned the hdd with a separated /home partition.. :P
[04:08] <tom_> I just installed with the cd download use entire hd
[04:10] <Fr0de> tom_: then you don't have a separate /home part by default..
[04:10] <bryan> any one?
[04:10] <tom_> no dont think so
[04:11] <bryan> Cannot relogin after after screensaver locks screen.
[04:11] <Fr0de> tom_: then when you reinstall, make a separate partition for your /home :)
[04:11] <Fr0de> bryan: caps lock?
[04:11] <tom_> can I do that now
[04:12] <devnull> !search deluge
[04:12] <ubotu> Found: deluge really, deluge
[04:12] <devnull> !deluge
[04:12] <ubotu> deluge is a new Bittorrent client, created using Python and GTK+, intended to bring a native, full-featured client to !GTK environments such as GNOME and Xfce - See http://deluge-torrent.org/ for more information or http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/ubuntu/feisty/ for downloading.
[04:12] <bryan> Frode-no
[04:13] <bryan> Frode- y
[04:13] <Fr0de> tom_: backup any stuff you want to keep onto some other media, then when you reinstall, do manual partition editing and allocate a separate partition for your /home
[04:13] <tom_> ok that be it then
[04:13] <Fr0de> bryan: no and yes?
[04:14] <tom_> thank you very much
[04:14] <Fr0de> tom_: that's ok - good luck - read about partitioning before you jump in
[04:14] <krocker> after I do a reinstall, how do I restore my users from my old /home dir?
[04:14] <bryan> Frode-No
[04:14] <Fr0de> tom_: google should be your friend there..
[04:15] <Fr0de> bryan: reset your password from a terminal (Ctrl-Alt-F1), see if that helps
[04:17] <bryan> Frode- maybe I stated my issue wrong.  I have my pictures to works in slide mode to use as a screen saver but after I try to go back It will not do anything just stay on the picture if froze on.
[04:18] <devnull> libboost = what in *ubuntu
[04:18] <Fr0de> bryan: do you get a password prompt?
[04:20] <bryan> Frode-No
[04:20] <bryan> Frode-Just freez on picture
[04:21] <krocker> is there any easy user migration tools out there?
[04:21] <Fr0de> devnull: aptitude search libboost
[04:21] <Fr0de> bryan: what if you try typing something?
[04:22] <bryan> Frode- only mouse will show on picture but nothing allow to stop screen saver
[04:23] <draik> !OpenGL
[04:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opengl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <draik> For all of you running Feisty with an nVidia card... How do you get OpenGL to work?
[04:24] <Fr0de> bryan: what screensaver? one bundled with *ubuntu or a third-party one?
[04:24] <Minataku> !nv | draik
[04:24] <ubotu> draik: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:25] <draik> Thank you Minataku
[04:25] <Search4Lancer> erm... my USB drive apparently disconnected and reconnected.. or something.. while I was gone, and now it's showing as a "locked folder" == I can't access it, which is throwing off Amarok, as that's where my music is... anything I can do without rebooting
[04:25] <bryan> Frode- the one option that allows you to use own pictures as a slide show screen saver
[04:25] <Minataku> draik: np
[04:26] <Search4Lancer> bryan: what's your problem with it? works fine for me
[04:27] <Fr0de> bryan: try using one or two pictures (from the bundled ones), just to see if it is an issue with your picture set, somehow
[04:27] <bryan> Search4lancer-keeps freezing ona picture and then I can get out of it. It just show the arrow on picture
[04:27] <Fr0de> Search4Lancer: unmount it from terminal
[04:28] <bryan> Frode- OK
[04:28] <Fr0de> bryan: are you ok to get back in by killing the screensaver from a term?
[04:29] <bryan> Frode - no I have to shut down manual
[04:30] <Fr0de> bryan: just Ctrl-Alt-F1, log in in the prompt, then find the process (using 'nice top' to see the running procs) then kill the screensaver off.. :)
[04:31] <krocker> so do I just cp the old passwd file to get my old users back?
[04:31] <Fr0de> krocker: you'd need to check the user id numbers - make sure they are the same
[04:32] <krocker> I haven't recreated the old accounts yet, except for mine
[04:32] <krocker> how do I check the uid's?
[04:32] <Fr0de> krocker: and remember your /etc/group and /etc/shadow files, too
[04:32] <rustalot> my screen resolution is really messed up
[04:32] <bryan> Frode- I can't do anything besides moving mouse
[04:32] <Schuenemann> Minataku, I can't get my card to work even with that tutoria
[04:32] <Fr0de> krocker: compare them in the passwd files compared to files in their home folders
[04:33] <bryan> IFrode I used another screen saver and it works ok
[04:33] <rustalot> it's showing at 640 x 480 when it should be 1280 x 1024
[04:33] <Fr0de> bryan: ctrl-alt-F1 or F2 or F3 don't work?
[04:33] <Minataku> Schuenemann: ATI card?
[04:33] <Minataku> !resolution | rustalot
[04:33] <ubotu> rustalot: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:33] <bryan> Frode- correct
[04:33] <Schuenemann> Minataku, nope, an old nvidia geforce 32 MB
[04:33] <Minataku> Schuenemann: Hrm
[04:33] <Schuenemann> I was able to configure in edgy, but not in feisty
[04:34] <Minataku> Weird
[04:34] <Minataku> You probably want the free driver
[04:34] <Schuenemann> the wiki has no specific section for kubuntu feisty, only ubuntu
[04:34] <Minataku> Or the nvidia-legacy one
[04:34] <Search4Lancer> Fr0de: umount: NEW VOLUME is not mounted (according to mtab)    shall I start fiddling around with mtab and ftab now?
[04:34] <Minataku> Schuenemann: The core is the same
[04:34] <Fr0de> bryan: that's odd.. I guess you'll have to do it the hard way.. oh, does ctrl-alt-backspace kill the x server?
[04:35] <bryan> Frode- It seem if it goes to the end of the pictures it freezes like it wants to start over the slide show
[04:35] <Schuenemann> but the process for ubuntu uses it's GUI or something (I forgot for now)
[04:35] <Minataku> Ah
[04:35] <Fr0de> Search4Lancer: in a term, type: mount
[04:35] <Minataku> Yeah, that's a shortsight
[04:35] <Schuenemann> I installed the nvidia-legacy but I get a black screen when I restart X and I have to restart the whole system, use the safe mode and replace the xorg.conf
[04:35] <Minataku> Schuenemann: Yipe!
[04:35] <Fr0de> Search4Lancer: and find what device it is, then umount that device
[04:35] <Schuenemann> yeah heh
[04:35] <Search4Lancer> heh, silly me, helps to have the actual path...
[04:36] <Minataku> I wish someone else was here, I'm not quite up to helping tonight XD
[04:36] <david_> hi there. ive actidently deleted the default apache2 index.html file. is there a way i can recreate this file?
[04:36] <Fr0de> Search4Lancer: :P
[04:36] <Schuenemann> hmm :-/
[04:36] <Search4Lancer> except... it's not listed
[04:36] <Minataku> ataraxia_: Playing Aegis Wing lately?
[04:36] <Fr0de> !offtopic | Minataku
[04:36] <ubotu> Minataku: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, howdy :)
[04:36] <Minataku> Fr0de: One line is hardly offtopic
[04:36] <Schuenemann> ataraxua is a phantasy start IV magic
[04:37] <Schuenemann> ataraxia*
[04:37] <Minataku> !attitude | Fr0de
[04:37] <ubotu> Fr0de: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:37] <Fr0de> Minataku: thought I'd get in early! :P
[04:37] <Minataku> Schuenemann: Ah, it's also the bad guys in Aegis Wing
[04:37] <Schuenemann> !why | Fr0de
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about why - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <Minataku> Fr0de: Sorry, I'm just in a bit of a sour mood
[04:37] <Schuenemann> nevermind
[04:38] <Minataku> Apologies for the snap
[04:38] <Fr0de> Minataku: no worries! :)
[04:38] <Minataku> ^^
[04:38] <binser> I'm trying to install Kubuntu, it won't let me choose to resize my windows install, any ideas?
[04:38] <draik> Minataku: I don't suppose you know what I need for the GeForce FX 5700LE, do you?
[04:38] <draik> Minataku: says it's supported by 7.04
[04:39] <Search4Lancer> alright Fr0de, I found it in the /dev/disk/by-label folder listed as sda2... however, that still claims to not be mounted - guess it's time to just give up and either log out and back in, or reboot, eh?
[04:40] <Fr0de> Search4Lancer: hmm.. did you 'sudo umount /dev/sda2' ?
[04:40] <Search4Lancer> nope, would've expected a permissions error if that was necessary but not done
[04:40] <Search4Lancer> yup, still no go
[04:41] <Minataku> draik: No idea, sorry
[04:41] <Fr0de> Search4Lancer: what do you get if you 'sudo lsof /dev/sda2' ?
[04:41] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: Heya (Sorry for the late reply X3 )
[04:42] <Search4Lancer> Fr0de: a short little lag, then another prompt, but no message, and it's still showing as a locked folder in /media
[04:42] <bryan> Frode-got it fixed
[04:43] <draik> Minataku: Thanks
[04:43] <draik> hitmanWilly: It was my power supply!
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> Minataku, that's fine, im kinda back and forth tonight
[04:43] <Fr0de> Search4Lancer: and it's not in the output from 'mount' now?
[04:43] <Fr0de> bryan: cool :)
[04:43] <hitmanWilly> draik, what was?
[04:43] <bryan> Frode- used sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:44] <Fr0de> bryan: good old driver issues.. nothing like 'em.. :P
[04:44] <draik> hitmanWilly: From last night when my desktop gave out on me
[04:44] <Search4Lancer> Fr0de: it never was
[04:44] <bryan> Frode-Thanks for all your help
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> draik, oh, ok, sorry, no short term memory anymore...
[04:44] <draik> LOL
[04:44] <Fr0de> bryan: *shrug* I didn't really do anything.. ;)
[04:44] <draik> It's ok
[04:44] <najib> hey
[04:44] <najib> umm.....
[04:44] <najib> i swtiched from GNOME
[04:44] <najib> to KDE
[04:45] <najib> is there a way to get icons
[04:45] <najib> for KDE
[04:45] <bryan> Now to a new issue
[04:45] <Fr0de> Search4Lancer: did you close amarok?
[04:45] <Search4Lancer> did now :-)
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> najib, you mean have the same desktop icons you did in gnome?
[04:46] <bryan> I can't get my xternal drive to work.  It see it but I cannot access it
[04:46] <najib> hitmanwilly, no i mean as in get better icons for KDE
[04:46] <Fr0de> Search4Lancer: then unplug the drive, I think.. and plug it in again..
[04:46] <bryan> I read that I can force the drive to show but I don't know how
[04:46] <Search4Lancer> trust me, that's the first thing I tried :-D
[04:47] <Search4Lancer> bone it, I'll just log out or reboot.... thanks for trying, though
[04:47] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: So am I (quite obviously XD )
[04:47] <Minataku> Sorry again, BTW X3
[04:47] <Minataku> I think I'll just go
[04:47] <Fr0de> Search4Lancer: try to log out first
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> nj786, yup, you can download new ones and change them out to your hearts content :)
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> nj786, try kde-look.org and look through the icon themes
[04:48] <nj786> hitmanwilly, mind showing me how?
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> nj786, right click on any icon, edit it, then click the icon in the dialog that comes up
[04:49] <Search4Lancer> boooo, didn't work....
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> nj786, err by edit it i mean select properties
[04:53] <binser> Anyone know why Kubuntu install won't give me the choice to resize my ntsf partition?
[04:57] <Search4Lancer> and that, my friends, is what's known as overheating twice in a row
[05:02] <draik> WOOHOO
[05:02] <draik> I got my nVidia drivers going
[05:02] <draik> and Beryl
[05:03] <draik> Hmmm... no border on my windows...
[05:03] <draik> !beryl
[05:03] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:04] <Dragnslcr> There's a command to fix that
[05:04] <Dragnslcr> sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[05:04] <Dragnslcr> Should do it
[05:04] <Jucato> or run beryl-manager and choose Aquamarine as your window decoration...
[05:04] <Jucato> (you need to have beryl-manager and aquamarine installed of course)
[05:05] <draik> Dragnslcr: Do I need to restart X or something?
[05:06] <draik> after I do that command
[05:06] <draik> !botsnack
[05:06] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[05:06] <crdlb> draik, yes
[05:06] <crdlb> (to the restart X)
[05:07] <draik> crdlb: Thank you.
[05:07] <draik> Will do in a bit
[05:10] <draik> That did it Dragnslcr
[05:11] <draik> Thank you
[05:11] <draik> Jucato: Thank you so much for the driver info
[05:11] <Jucato> draik: sure
[05:16] <romudog> How do i enable mp3 support in AmaroK?
[05:17] <michael_m> can someone help me with a network problem
[05:17] <michael_m> ?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> !mp3
[05:19] <Dr_willis> I though amarok asked to download the mp3 stuff..
[05:19] <romudog> !mp3
[05:19] <romudog> it does
[05:19] <romudog> but it crashes every time
[05:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:19] <Dr_willis> I recall that.. i forget how i got it to go.. I think i just apt-get installed'ed the package it was wanting from the shell
[05:20] <fitoria_> hay
[05:20] <fitoria_> hey can any one help me
[05:20] <Dr_willis> !ask
[05:20] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:21] <fitoria_> with a nvidia driver
[05:21] <romudog> !nvidia
[05:21] <fitoria_> for a gefroce4 440mx
[05:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:21] <fitoria_> ok ill see
[05:21] <michael_m> fitoria  search for a program called envy. does everything automatically
[05:21] <fitoria_> o thanks
[05:21] <Dr_willis> heck its a simple apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:21] <Dr_willis> last i looked.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> was rather simple without envy. :)
[05:22] <fitoria_> so what can i do
[05:22] <Dr_willis> I think envy does use the Latest 'from nvidia' drivers
[05:22] <draik> fitoria_: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[05:22] <Dr_willis> fitoria_,  read the !nvidia site the bot gave... for a start
[05:22] <michael_m> yeah it goes to the nvidia website adn gets the lates
[05:22] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, yeah, but that nasty xorg.conf editing :)
[05:23] <Dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  what nasty? change nv to nvidia?
[05:23] <fitoria_> do  i have to change the xorg
[05:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, that was a joke
[05:23] <Dr_willis> actually with the apt-get stuff ya dont even need to do that do ya? thers some command that does it.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> ACTUALLY dosent the 'restricted-drivers' tool handle this now a days under feisty?
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, nvidia-xconfig, which does in fact work pretty well
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> Dr_willis, when it works
[05:24] <fitoria_> so with envy is easier
[05:24] <draik> fitoria_: Sorry, not new... sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:24] <lmerovingio> how can i set the beryl to start at begin
[05:24] <fitoria_> or without it
[05:24] <michael_m> fitoria, heres envy   http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[05:24] <fitoria_> ok
[05:24] <fitoria_> thanks
[05:24] <draik> !startup
[05:24] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[05:24] <draik> lmerovingio: ^^
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> lmerovingio, link it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:25] <michael_m> can someone help me with a network issue?
[05:25] <fitoria_> hey envy says that
[05:25] <romudog> !ask
[05:25] <fitoria_> ubuntu is suported
[05:25] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:25] <lmerovingio> jeje, sorry i am new
[05:25] <draik> fitoria_: Don't use envy
[05:25] <fitoria_> but kubuntu
[05:25] <fitoria_> ?
[05:25] <Dr_willis> fitoria_,  you really DONT need to be using envy
[05:25] <crdlb> fitoria_, what card do you have?
[05:25] <michael_m> im running kubuntu and it workd
[05:26] <fitoria_> geforce4 440mx
[05:26] <fitoria_> i thing
[05:26] <Dr_willis> I could of gotten the nvidia stuff installed by the time it took ya to even look up envy.
[05:26] <draik> crdlb: It's under the nvidia-glx package
[05:26] <michael_m> ubuntu is gnome and kubuntu is kde ubuntu basically
[05:26] <crdlb> fitoria_, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-generic && sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[05:26] <Dr_willis> 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx' ( READ that bots wiki it gave for other potential issues)
[05:26] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:26] <michael_m> dr willis could ya help me with a network problem?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> depends on the problem michael_m
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> michael_m, what's the issue?
[05:27] <michael_m> well i cant get ndiswrapper to wrap around the windows driver for my netgear card
[05:27] <fitoria_> crdlb those sudo in 2 separated lines isnt
[05:27] <fitoria_> ?
[05:27] <michael_m> im running 64 bit and using the marvell 64 bit drivers
[05:28] <crdlb> fitoria_, no that's all one command
[05:28] <fitoria_> ok
[05:28] <fitoria_> i ll try rigth now
[05:28] <michael_m> when i run modprobe ndiswrapper the console says    Killed
[05:28] <michael_m> any ideas?
[05:28] <crdlb> fitoria_, is it a laptop?
[05:28] <fitoria_> nop
[05:29] <fitoria_> is a destktop
[05:29] <crdlb> then you shouldn't get the black screen issue
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> michael_m, run modprobe with the -v option
[05:29] <fitoria_> look it says sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-generic && sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[05:29] <fitoria_> ops sorry
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> michael_m, that may help in diagnosing the issue
[05:29] <michael_m> i did that first
[05:29] <fitoria_> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[05:29] <michael_m> the  ... --first time   command??
[05:30] <bryan> filtoria- try using ENVY google it
[05:30] <fitoria_> crdlb what happened
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> michael_m, modprobe -v ndiswrapper
[05:30] <michael_m> ok, ill try it
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> michael_m, can you pastebin the output of that?
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> !paste | michael_m
[05:30] <ubotu> michael_m: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:30] <michael_m> sure. just lemme redownload ndiswrapper
[05:30] <Dr_willis> fitoria_,  fix the pakcage manager with 'sudo dpkg --confgure -a' like its suggesting
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> michael_m, k
[05:31] <bryan> filtoria- it would look for your card and down lod driver auto.
[05:31] <fitoria_> ok
[05:31] <fitoria_> ill try
[05:31] <fitoria_> what do i select
[05:31] <fitoria_> in the sudo dpkg --confgure -a
[05:32] <Dr_willis> try it and see what it does. Im wondering how ya packages got confused.
[05:32] <hitmanWilly> fitoria_, you don't have to select anything
[05:32] <fitoria_> ok
[05:32] <fitoria_> i misspelled
[05:32] <bryan> How do you force my xternal hdd to show up?
[05:33] <bob_sinclair> show up where?
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> bryan, mount it by hand
[05:33] <bryan> hitmanwilly- how
[05:33] <lmerovingio> how can I create a link of beryl in the autostart directory
[05:33] <fitoria_> its running
[05:33] <bob_sinclair> !autostart
[05:33] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> bryan, sudo mount /dev/<name of device> /<mountpoint>
[05:34] <fitoria_> i did the dpkg --configure -a
[05:34] <fitoria_> next i get the drivers ok?
[05:35] <bob_sinclair> bryan confirm the partition/disk in sudo fdisk -l
[05:35] <fitoria_> hey it has some dependences
[05:35] <crazy_bus> whenever I try and install or remove things with apt or dpkg I get error like this one, what should I do? unable to open files list file for package `kget': Input/output error
[05:36] <fitoria_> anybody home
[05:36] <fitoria_> ?
[05:36] <bryan> bob_sinclair-ok
[05:36] <fitoria_> crdlb?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> fitoria_,  you know we are here.
[05:37] <Dr_willis> fitoria_,  be a bit more verbose in your problems.. we dont have ESP.
[05:38] <Dr_willis> at least I dont.. :) that you know of...
[05:38] <fitoria_> ?
[05:38] <draik> Dr_willis: You don't have ESP? I would have thought you were the Sifu ESP
[05:38] <Dr_willis> draik,  im more of a 'remote viewer' :)
[05:39] <draik> Dr_willis: Not a 'remote reader' huh?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> then theres those darn space aliens  in my head!
[05:39] <Dr_willis> draik,  what i view.. you dont need to read. :)
[05:39] <draik> Dr_willis: Do what I do... wear the aluminum hats! What I read and think.... just keep out!
[05:39] <fitoria_> so what hapend with my dependences?
[05:40] <draik> fitoria_: They have to be met
[05:40] <Dr_willis> fitoria_,  we barly have a cluw what you are refering to...
[05:40] <Dr_willis> apt-get install Whatever. 'should' install all dependencies
[05:40] <fitoria_> so ill explain
[05:40] <fitoria_> look
[05:40] <bryan> what is a mount point
[05:40] <fitoria_> i did 'dpkg --configure -a'
[05:41] <draik> fitoria_: I keep getting an error. How do I fix it? That's what you're giving us
[05:41] <Dr_willis> bryan,  a directory, (that allready exists) that a filesystem 'shows up in'
[05:41] <draik> fitoria_: Do as you're told
[05:41] <fitoria_> then i sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-generic && sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[05:41] <Dr_willis> bryan,  mount /dev/hda1 /media/stuff (stuff is a folder, that is the mount point)
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> bryan, its a directory on the system where you want the drive to attach to
[05:41] <fitoria_> so it says installing then it says it have some dependences
[05:41] <draik> fitoria_: sudo apt-get install <missing package 1> <missing package 2> ... <missing package n>
[05:42] <Dr_willis> because apt-get should auto select them.. UNLESS you are refering to the 'reccomended' packages.
[05:42] <fitoria_> draik: should i put that
[05:42] <draik> Dr_willis: Bet it's got nothing to do with nvidia or beryl
[05:42] <draik> fitoria_: not exactly as I gave it to you.
[05:42] <Dr_willis> fitoria_,  what packages are it saying is 'dependences'
[05:42] <michael_m> hitmanWilly   sorry i had to reboot. what was that command? modprobe ndiswrapper -m?
[05:43] <fitoria_> wait a second
[05:43] <draik> 1...
[05:43] <draik> 2....
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> sudo modprobe -v ndiswrapper
[05:43] <draik> 3...
[05:43] <draik> .................
[05:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:43] <fitoria_> this one
[05:43] <fitoria_> j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin: Depende: j2re1.4 pero no va a instalarse
[05:43] <michael_m> k, and can u give me a link to the pastebin
[05:43] <draik> Missing java
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> !paste | michael_m
[05:43] <ubotu> michael_m: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:44] <Dr_willis> 1.4 ? isent that rather old?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> !java
[05:44] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> Oh wait - its suns funny versioning.. :)
[05:44] <draik> fitoria_: sudo apt-get install sun-java6
[05:44] <fitoria_> ok
[05:44] <draik> fitoria_: list all of them
[05:44] <draik> with your install
[05:45] <fitoria_> how?
[05:45] <fitoria_> it says thath i doestn find a package sun-java 6
[05:45] <JEANMASS> hi
[05:45] <Dr_willis> fitoria_,  did you type it right?
[05:45] <michael_m> hitmanWilly   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27223/
[05:45] <michael_m> it didnt do like it did last time
[05:45] <fitoria_> yes
[05:45] <fitoria_> i did
[05:45] <JEANMASS> i use wengo
[05:45] <fitoria_> sun-java6
[05:46] <JEANMASS> however the last version is not in the repos
[05:46] <JEANMASS> shoud i install the package from the website?
[05:46] <draik> fitoria_: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-demo sun-java6-doc sun-java6-fonts sun-java6-javadb sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-source
[05:46] <crazy_bus> I tried to fix my apt with this command posted on the ubuntu forums "sudo sh -c "mv /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status.bak; sudo apt-get update""  Now I get this error dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for reading: No such file or directory
[05:46] <Dr_willis> i always just install 'sudo apt-get install  sun-java6-jre'
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> michael_m, it looks like its working
[05:46] <michael_m> now what do i do
[05:46] <fitoria_> i will try dr willis
[05:46] <JEANMASS> ??
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> michael_m, see if its working :)
[05:47] <Dr_willis> fitoria_,  draik 's line installs Every java thing that exists. ) i think. :) heh.
[05:47] <fitoria_> ok
[05:47] <fitoria_> willis i didnt worked
[05:47] <michael_m> hitmanWilly i right click on knetwork manager but my wireless doesnt show up
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Talk about a caffine kick.
[05:47] <fitoria_> i ll try draik
[05:47] <Dr_willis> fitoria_,  things like 'dident work' dont really tell us much.
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> michael_m, ok, sudo iwconfig, paste that
[05:48] <fitoria_> it doesnt find the package
[05:48] <michael_m> k
[05:48] <draik> Dr_willis: What is so hard about it doesn't work o-O?
[05:48] <fitoria_> draik it has dependences too
[05:48] <michael_m> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27223/
[05:49] <bryan> ok so I need to mount this:
[05:49] <bryan> Disk /dev/sdb: 250.0 GB, 250059349504 bytes
[05:49] <draik> sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:49] <bryan> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 30401 cylinders
[05:49] <bryan> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[05:49] <bryan>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[05:49] <bryan> /dev/sdb1               1       19122   153597433+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:49] <bryan> /dev/sdb2           19123       24792    45544275    7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:49] <bryan> /dev/sdb3           24793       30401    45054292+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:49] <fitoria_> are you sure draik
[05:49] <draik> !pastebin | bryan
[05:49] <ubotu> bryan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:49] <Dr_willis> fitoria_,  are you using the latest Kubuntu? "Version Feisty" ?
[05:49] <fitoria_> yes
[05:49] <fitoria_> 7.04
[05:49] <bryan> sorry did not mean to do that
[05:50] <fitoria_> up to date
[05:50] <draik> Dr_willis: This would have been a great "how do you do" if it was dapper
[05:50] <michael_m> hitmanWilly
[05:50] <michael_m> michael@michael-desktop:~/Desktop/wg311v3-x64/WG311v3-x64$ su
[05:50] <michael_m> Password:
[05:50] <michael_m> root@michael-desktop:/home/michael/Desktop/wg311v3-x64/WG311v3-x64# ndiswrapper -i WG311v3.INF
[05:50] <michael_m> installing wg311v3 ...
[05:50] <fitoria_> so what can i do
[05:50] <michael_m> root@michael-desktop:/home/michael/Desktop/wg311v3-x64/WG311v3-x64# ndiswrapper -l
[05:50] <michael_m> wg311v3 : driver installed
[05:50] <michael_m>         device (11AB:1FAA) present
[05:50] <michael_m> root@michael-desktop:/home/michael/Desktop/wg311v3-x64/WG311v3-x64# modprobe -v ndiswrapper
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> michael_m, im looking at that right now
[05:50] <michael_m> insmod /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/ubuntu/misc/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[05:50] <michael_m> root@michael-desktop:/home/michael/Desktop/wg311v3-x64/WG311v3-x64# iwconfig
[05:51] <bryan> So how to a force this drive to open:Disk /dev/sdb: 250.0 GB
[05:51] <michael_m> lo        no wireless extensions.
[05:51] <michael_m> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[05:51] <michael_m> root@michael-desktop:/home/michael/Desktop/wg311v3-x64/WG311v3-x64#
[05:51] <michael_m> crap
[05:51] <michael_m> sorry
[05:51] <michael_m> wrong paste
[05:51] <bob_sinclair> bryan: which partition?
[05:51] <bob_sinclair> !ntfs
[05:51] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:52] <bryan> ntfs
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> michael_m, ok, im not really an expert on ndiswrapper, but if the modules loading into the kernel, it should be working
[05:52] <fitoria_> drwillis_
[05:52] <fitoria_> ?
[05:52] <bob_sinclair> bryan: i see 3 listed
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> michael_m, are you sure its set up properly?
[05:52] <bob_sinclair> /dev/sdb1, /dev/sdb2 etc.
[05:53] <bryan> How could you see the 3?
[05:53] <bob_sinclair> bryan: read the above link
[05:53] <bob_sinclair> it details how to do it
[05:53] <bryan> lets try the first one
[05:53] <michael_m> hitmanWilly. ill try one more time. could u take a look at my dmesg file though. i also have a really slow boot up and i think it shows whey in dmesg
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> michael_m, ill see what i can do
[05:54] <Dr_willis> fitoria_, ?  You may want to paste your full error output to a pastebin site. Some how youve managed to get your package manager confused.
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> michael_m, you can take out the quiet option in /boot/grub/menu.lst to see where its hanging yourself if you want
[05:55] <fitoria_> ok
[05:56] <Dr_willis> i always fix up the boot to show all messages. :)
[05:56] <Dr_willis> I like seeing them
[05:56] <jonschnaps> hi
[05:56] <jonschnaps> the wengo package from repos is not the last one
[05:56] <jonschnaps> there is a package available on their website
[05:56] <jonschnaps> i was told to prefer the packages from repos
[05:57] <michael_m> hitmanWilly i havent been using linux long enough to understand how to do what u did. heres the pastebin   its pretty huge (but repetitive i think)   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27225/
[05:57] <jonschnaps> but the new version is much better
[05:57] <fitoria_> here it is
[05:57] <fitoria_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27226/
[05:57] <fitoria_> ok
[05:58] <Dr_willis> fitoria_,  ICKY....
[05:58] <Dr_willis> sun-java6-bin: Depende: unixodbc pero no va a instalarse
[05:58] <Dr_willis>                  Depende: libstdc++5 pero no va a instalarse
[05:58] <Dr_willis> How the heck is it having issues with libstdc++
[05:58] <Dr_willis> What have you been doing withyour system? :)
[05:58] <fitoria_> i dont know
[05:58] <fitoria_> well
[05:59] <fitoria_> i just intall it
[05:59] <Minataku> Dr_willis: What's up?
[05:59] <Minataku> :D
[05:59] <fitoria_> yesterday
[05:59] <fitoria_> and i updated it
[05:59] <Minataku> Wait
[05:59] <Dr_willis> fitoria_,  you sure you havent done anything else odd?
[05:59] <Minataku> sun-java6-bin depends on libstdc++5, but it is not installed
[05:59] <fitoria_> no
[05:59] <Minataku> That sounds bad
[05:59] <fitoria_> nothing
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  yep. thats what i wa thinking.
[06:00] <Dr_willis> !info libstdc++5
[06:00] <ubotu> libstdc++5: The GNU Standard C++ Library v3. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.3.6-15ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 289 kB, installed size 852 kB
[06:00] <michael_m> hitmanWilly any ideas?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> i wonder if his repositories are messed up.
[06:01] <Dr_willis> fitoria_,  try a 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' see if that kicks it all in the head.
[06:01] <fitoria_> ok all together
[06:01] <fitoria_> workning
[06:02] <fitoria_> well the message are in spanish
[06:02] <fitoria_> because
[06:02] <fitoria_> i instaled it in spanish
[06:02] <bob_sinclair> !es
[06:02] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:02] <fitoria_> ok
[06:02] <fitoria_> gracias
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> michael_m, it seems like your hdd is repeatedly resetting itself for some odd reason, also it looks like the windows driver itself on your wireless card isn't talking to the card itself
[06:04] <fitoria_> look at this please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27227/
[06:06] <Dr_willis> Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:
[06:06] <Dr_willis>   j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin: Depende: j2re1.4 pero no est instalado
[06:06] <Dr_willis> I would say just remove that  j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin :) for a start
[06:06] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[06:06] <draik> Dr_willis: You're still on this? I left to make a sammich and talked to the wifey for a bit.
[06:06] <terayam> hello, this is my first day with linuc and I'm having some issues with a few KDE applications regarding internet access
[06:07] <fitoria_> ok
[06:07] <fitoria_> i will do
[06:07] <draik> terayam: ok... what issues?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> draik,  handign it over to you then. :) i gotta go hit the shower... :P
[06:07] <draik> Dr_willis: something's pooched.
[06:07] <draik> repos maybe
[06:08] <Dr_willis> draik,  thats what i was thinking.
[06:08] <jonschnaps> guys how to execute a file.sh?
[06:08] <terayam> well neither my knoqueror or amarok seem to be able to access the internet, but firefox and others work fine
[06:09] <wsjunior> i have i problem here with the touchpad of my laptop (this one: http://rafb.net/p/ol1xZ890.html). when i log into kde it works for some time but it suddenly stop working without any error message. is this a know problem?
[06:09] <draik> !source-o-matic | fitoria_
[06:09] <ubotu> fitoria_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:09] <wsjunior> and also my keyboard sometimes repeat keys doing things like thiiiiiiiiiiis
[06:10] <trakinas> jonschnaps: check if it does have execution permitions.
[06:10] <fitoria_> ok
[06:10] <jonschnaps> it does have
[06:10] <fitoria_> ill check
[06:10] <wsjunior> both works flawlessly in windows, so i think its not a hardware issue..
[06:10] <jonschnaps> but when i click it nothin happen
[06:10] <trakinas> jonschnaps: then, ./nameofthefile.sh
[06:10] <intelikey> oh no.  my worst fears have come true.  i've died and went to hell.   and have to use windows vesta for ever.
[06:11] <jonschnaps> i type ./nameofthefile.sh in konsole?
[06:11] <trakinas> jonschnaps: yes
[06:11] <trakinas> how do I make my ide ata dvd drive not to be scsi emulated?
[06:11] <draik> intelikey: Vesta? Is that like the Vespa compared to a Kitana/Ninja/Harley?
[06:11] <draik> intelikey: BTW, it was a bad PSU on my desktop from last night
[06:11] <trakinas> k3b detects it as a scsi emulator. it does not work here in ubuntu, but works fine on gentoo, where it isnt detected as scsi
[06:12] <wsjunior> anybody else experiences problems with the scroll of  synaptics touchpad?
[06:12] <jonschnaps> trakinas: i am trying to run the latest wengo i downloaded from the website
[06:12] <jonschnaps> should i uninstall the ubuntu packge?
[06:12] <draik> wsjunior: Nope. Mine works fine. HP Pavilion N5150
[06:13] <trakinas> intelikey: yes. i still have the same problem... :/ (i was reading my logs to trying to find one link i saw once, about making it be /hdd, for instance))
[06:13] <wsjunior> draik: are u using any special configuration?
[06:13] <wsjunior> draik: or just the defaults?
[06:13] <terayam> draik: well neither my knoqueror or amarok seem to be able to access the internet, but firefox and others work fine
[06:13] <intelikey> draik oh,  yeah you said you let the smoke out of the psu
[06:13] <draik> wsjunior: Nope. It's a full install of Kubuntu
[06:13] <trakinas> jonschnaps: it is better if you remove it, but not needed. have you read all wengo instructions?
[06:13] <jonschnaps> there are no instructions
[06:13] <draik> intelikey: I let the magic smoke out of the elf factory
[06:14] <intelikey> tosheba satelite any good ?
[06:14] <draik> terayam: Don't know what to tell you. Check your settings
[06:14] <trakinas> really?
[06:14] <terayam> draik: alright, I dunno what to look for though really
[06:14] <draik> intelikey: I don't like Toshiba at all. Nothing but bad products and horrible luck
[06:14] <intelikey> looks like it has ati  too.....
[06:15] <draik> laptops, satellites, TVs, DVD players... crud
[06:15] <intelikey> like i said it's my worst nightmare
[06:15] <draik> Sorry, I didn't know the reference
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Ive seen some guys with real bad luck with Toshiba Laptops.
[06:16] <Dr_willis> and they were NOT impressed with Toshibas tech support.
[06:16] <cristiano> oi
[06:16] <cristiano> caramba tudo em ingles rsrs
[06:17] <Dr_willis> "laptop over heating? leave the cd-drive door open" was what i heard tech support say.
[06:17] <intelikey> Dr_willis uhh.
[06:17] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  yea.. the guy was NOT happy with his toshiba.
[06:17] <kalorin> I like mine
[06:17] <kalorin> haven't tried linux on it though
[06:17] <Dr_willis> Of course different models/makes have different issues.
[06:18] <kalorin> anyone running an opteron?
[06:18] <intelikey> ;/
[06:18] <Dr_willis> I had  sony that the case broke in half... had HP's with bad hinges.. over an dover and over....
[06:18] <cristiano> somebody me inform .. who sala portuguese ?
[06:18] <kalorin> I ordered an opeteron 165 for my socket 939 motherboard and waiting for it to get here
[06:18] <Dr_willis> Got a little COmpaq. thats doing ok Linux wise now. :)
[06:18] <kalorin> wondering if it'll just run on the -generic kernel
[06:18] <trakinas> !portugues | cristiano
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portugues - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <trakinas> !portuguese | cristiano
[06:18] <ubotu> cristiano: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[06:18] <kalorin> replacing an athlon64 3200+
[06:19] <BluesKaj> !pt | cristiano
[06:19] <trakinas> BluesKaj: you are late. =P
[06:19] <cristiano> ok thank you .... my ingles is Bad ....haha
[06:19] <BluesKaj> yup it is late , almost time for bed
[06:19] <kalorin> past bedtime for me
[06:20] <cristiano> #ubuntu
[06:20] <cristiano> ops
[06:21] <trakinas> alread passed bed time here
[06:21] <intelikey> Dr_willis openion ?   any chance that a non-profesional like myself, can get ubuntu linux to work to a low-end satisfactory condition on the tosheba satalite lappy  with ati graphic  ?
[06:21] <maynards-girl> i'm having difficulty intalling the nvidia drivers for my graphics card. i tried following the directions on the ubuntu forum but it didn't work
[06:21] <Fr0de> !nv | maynards-girl
[06:21] <ubotu> maynards-girl: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:22] <Fr0de> maynards-girl:  is that one you tried?
[06:22] <maynards-girl> nope
[06:22] <intelikey> if you say "yes" i'll issue cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda  and get started, Dr_willis
[06:22] <maynards-girl> i'll look over that
[06:22] <Fr0de> maynards-girl: cool - good luck! :)
[06:22] <maynards-girl> fr0de, thanks
[06:23] <draik> Dr_willis: say yes, say yes
[06:23] <intelikey> draik heh it's brand new.
[06:24] <BluesKaj> nitey nite all
[06:24] <draik> Nuke it, pave it, and show them what Linux is all about
[06:25] <intelikey> trying to run cfdisk i'm getting "FATAL ERROR: bad primary partition 1: partition ends in the final partal cylind"
[06:26] <maynards-girl> The directions say to go to "System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager", but i don't see that in kubuntu. what do i use instead?
[06:26] <Minataku> The hinges tend to be a common failure point
[06:26] <Minataku> Even Piyoko has hinge issues
[06:26] <draik> Question...
[06:26] <draik> How do I make my own Kubuntu DVD?
[06:26] <Minataku> I fixed it externally with some superglue
[06:26] <draik> I want to make an install with all of the packages I have now and such
[06:27] <draik> intelikey: JB Weld works wonders
[06:27] <Fr0de> draik: apt on cd
[06:27] <Minataku> I had to push down on the left speaker grille
[06:27] <Minataku> Then glue it dow
[06:27] <Minataku> n
[06:27] <Minataku> It's not perfect, but it's close enough
[06:27] <draik> Fr0de: What is the command?
[06:28] <Fr0de> draik: aptoncd is a package - I've never used it, but I know it makes a cd or dvd with .debs - google it.. :)
[06:28] <draik> Thank you Fr0de
[06:28] <Fr0de> :D
[06:29] <maynards-girl> fr0de,  The directions say to go to "System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager", but i don't see that in kubuntu. what do i use instead?
[06:30] <draik> Fr0de: DraiKubuntu?
[06:30] <Fr0de> maynards-girl: oh, that'd be the Gnome info..
[06:31] <intelikey> parted can't resize ntfs ?
[06:31] <Fr0de> maynards-girl: hmm.. maybe try envy: http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[06:31] <wsjunior> i kinda found the my problem here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/68540
[06:31] <Fr0de> intelikey: sounds about right..
[06:32] <wsjunior> its so odd. the scroll back to work after vt switch
[06:32] <draik> Fr0de: That's only for the repos. What about making my own "distro" from my settings and such
[06:32] <wsjunior> does anybody know anything about this?
[06:32] <Dr_willis> draik,  interesting you shoudl ask that.. Ive just noticed that 'Mint Linux' (a ubuntu variant) has JUST that feature
[06:32] <draik> Dr_willis: Package name?
[06:33] <Dr_willis> http://www.linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php/Remastersys
[06:33] <Dr_willis> !info remastersys
[06:33] <draik> Thank you
[06:33] <Dr_willis> It may be only in the mint repositories
[06:33] <ubotu> Package remastersys does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:33] <Fr0de> draik: you mean you want to make your own distro? I think googling for 'make my own linux distribution' or similar will give you links to howtos.. ;)
[06:33] <intelikey> nuking and paving
[06:33] <Dr_willis> They let you backup your /home or not..  :)
[06:34] <draik> I'm not looking for a backup, I just want a copy of my current distro and settings for in case something happens I can always install everything that I have now
[06:34] <Dr_willis> It backs up the current system to a dvd/cd and allows you to boot the cd's to install the system/clone it.
[06:35] <Dr_willis> I havent tested it.. yet. :)
[06:35] <draik> Dr_willis: That's what I want... too bad I don't have it in my repos
[06:35] <Dr_willis> draik,  that url sort of ends :) luckly i have Mint installed.. and can paste you my sources.list :)
[06:36] <draik> Is Mint like mint-desktop?
[06:36] <intelikey> Dr_willis you're off the hook,   i took the inititive and issued the cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda  command without your ok,  thus they can't blame anyone but me...
[06:36] <draik> intelikey: It's ok. You can blame me. I told you to do it
[06:36] <Dr_willis> draik,  linuxmint is a ubuntu-variant with several tools like 'mintdesktop' and 'mintdisk' included
[06:36] <draik> Besides, I've been going from blame to flame all day
[06:37] <intelikey> draik but these guys fly those all black choppers, and play for keeps.
[06:37] <draik> Dr_willis: So what is the point to Mint? Smaller? compact?
[06:38] <Dr_willis> draik,  more friendly in ways.. tweaked.. includes a lot of the 'not legally allowed' in ubuntu stuff :)
[06:38] <draik> Dr_willis: What is your lag? I'm at 83ms and your PMs are coming 1 line per sec
[06:38] <Dr_willis> .2 sec it says
[06:38] <intelikey> /ping self
[06:39] <Dr_willis> ing reply from Dr_willis : 0.37 second(s)
[06:39] <Minataku> Dr_willis: What's up?
[06:39] <Minataku> There's a lot of lag tonight it seems
[06:40] <Dr_willis> Im just websurfing and goofing off..
[06:40] <Dr_willis> almost bed time for me
[06:40] <intelikey> hehhe you are closer to you than i am to me  lol
[06:40] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Ah
[06:41] <intelikey> -:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 0.674 seconds
[06:41] <Minataku> Remember that CTCP PING adds a lot of overhead
[06:42] <wsjunior> does anybody know a definitive fix for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/68540
[06:44] <intelikey> what command do you use for a "read -p"  in the xwindow ?
[06:45] <draik> So what does APTonCD do?
[06:45] <intelikey> i'll have to adapt a script for the point&click folks.   anyone know ?
[06:52] <se7en> anyone know how to share folder between linux
[06:57] <bob_sinclair> !samba | se7en
[06:57] <ubotu> se7en: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:57] <bob_sinclair> !nfs
[06:57] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:57] <wolferine> se7en, two linux boxes?
[06:58] <se7en> yes wolferine
[06:58] <wolferine> NFS
[06:58] <wolferine> let me grab this good tutorial
[06:58] <wolferine> http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/
[06:58] <wolferine> there
[06:58] <se7en> thanks
[06:58] <wolferine> all the reading about it you need
[06:58] <wolferine> trust me, take the time to read it
[07:02] <draik> Dr_willis: I got remastersys\
[07:02] <draik> What now?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> draik,  rtfm? :) run it?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> I aint used it yet.
[07:02] <draik> Dr_willis: run from where? i dont see it in my list
[07:02] <Dr_willis> but once i get this box set up how i like it.. i will.
[07:02] <Dr_willis> draik,  'use the shell luke'
[07:03] <draik> ok
[07:03] <Dr_willis> 'come over to the cli side!'
[07:03] <Dr_willis> where ELSE could ya run it from? :)
[07:03] <Dr_willis> also the page on that program said be SURE to unmount network shares and so forth.
[07:03] <Dr_willis> it may try to back them up
[07:04] <purpleposeidon> heyo, how can I make the.... 'linux' key show the menu instead of alt-f1?
[07:05] <trakinas> purpleposeidon: linux key! good one.
[07:05] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Figure out a way to strengthen up that box you nicked yet?
[07:05] <purpleposeidon> CORRECT one.
[07:05] <wolferine> :)
[07:05] <trakinas> =P
[07:05] <purpleposeidon> I think kde actually calls it the windows key, tho
[07:05] <wolferine> correction:
[07:05] <wolferine> winBLOWs key :)
[07:06] <purpleposeidon> correction: just win
[07:06] <Fr0de> yup
[07:06] <Minataku> No
[07:06] <Minataku> THE correction: "Super"
[07:06] <Minataku> It's the "Super" key
[07:06] <purpleposeidon> super meta?
[07:06] <purpleposeidon> I still haven't figured out which key's the 'meta' key . :-)
[07:06] <Minataku> Right Alt
[07:07] <Minataku> I believe
[07:07] <trakinas> unbeliveble.
[07:07] <Minataku> At least it's supposed to be
[07:07] <purpleposeidon> whatever happened to left out? Did he get left alt?
[07:07] <trakinas> one guy ws asking about how to execute wengophone
[07:07] <Minataku> <.<
[07:07] <trakinas> you just have to click n the sh file.
[07:07] <trakinas> I downloaded 30mb... :/
[07:08] <trakinas> now, is time to go to bed.
[07:08] <trakinas> defenetely.
[07:08] <trakinas> definetely...
[07:08] <Minataku> Definitely
[07:08] <trakinas> Minataku: thanks
[07:08] <Fr0de> at 15:08 in the afternoon? ;)
[07:08] <trakinas> this is a hard word to spell.
[07:08] <Minataku> trakinas: np
[07:09] <Minataku> purpleposeidon: Try the "Menu" key instead
[07:09] <trakinas> Fr0de: at 02:09
[07:09] <trakinas> purpleposeidon: good tricks!
[07:09] <Fr0de> trakinas: lol - you must be in Europe?
[07:09] <purpleposeidon> whatyoutalkingaboutmitch1?
[07:09] <trakinas> Fr0de: no. south america
[07:09] <trakinas> -3 gmt
[07:09] <Fr0de> :)
[07:10] <Fr0de> !offtopic | Fr0de
[07:10] <Fr0de> :P
[07:10] <Minataku> 1:09AM here
[07:10] <Minataku> I'ma head to sleep, too
[07:10] <Minataku> Later, all
[07:10] <Fr0de> good night, those heading to bed! :D
[07:10] <purpleposeidon> the time is offtopic, but everyone seems to be talking about it anyways.
[07:11] <purpleposeidon> wether they want to or not
[07:11] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  heck - we got a house full of people here for the next few days.. wifes been keeping me so busy. i aint evenhad time to breath.
[07:11] <Fr0de> purpleposeidon: yeah, which is why I directed the offtopic notice to myself! :D
[07:11] <purpleposeidon> but you're still not complying, I still you're saying the time before your name. You should be kick/banned! >:)
[07:12] <Fr0de> purpleposeidon: as for remapping the win key to pop up the menu, if you figure it out, let me know! :)
[07:12] <purpleposeidon> *I still see that you're
[07:12] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Ah. Take your time then, no rush. :D
[07:12] <Dr_willis> I got an old ibm clicky keybard... No Windows key!
[07:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:12] <trakinas> who was asking about the superkey binding thing?
[07:12] <Dr_willis> and it weighs like 10 lb.
[07:12] <trakinas> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=391762
[07:12] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Sweet
[07:13] <Dr_willis> Gotta love rummage sale finds.
[07:13] <Minataku> purpleposeidon: Seriously, try the "Menu" key
[07:13] <Fr0de> trakinas: that was purpleposeidon (and I'm interested)
[07:13] <trakinas> now, for something complete different...
[07:13] <trakinas> cheers all!
[07:13] <tmbg> Dr_willis, my ibm model M turns 20 this year.
[07:13] <trakinas> gtg
[07:13] <Minataku> It should have a picture of a menu on it
[07:13] <purpleposeidon> there is noo menu key. There's a compose key....
[07:13] <tmbg> in december I think it is.
[07:13] <Minataku> purpleposeidon: What the hell kind of keyboard do you have?
[07:14] <Minataku> The "Menu" key is the other one they added with the "Super" key
[07:14] <purpleposeidon> well, I'm verbally attacking you on a laptop right now.
[07:14] <Minataku> Mine has a Menu key O.o
[07:14] <Minataku> I'm on a laptop too
[07:14] <purpleposeidon> well, it shows a menu, but I'm pretty sure it's called compose
[07:14] <Minataku>  01:13:17 up 106 days, 20:39,  6 users,  load average: 0.11, 0.08, 0.07
[07:14] <Minataku> :D
[07:14] <purpleposeidon> It has more or less the same effect of right clicking on the selection
[07:15] <tmbg> ctrl+esc should send the same code as windows key. to send that other key there's probably a way but I don't know it.
[07:15] <Minataku> purpleposeidon: I think there's an option in the command center or whatever it's called
[07:15] <purpleposeidon> yeah, I see it now
[07:15] <Minataku> Coo
[07:15] <Minataku> Just change it around
[07:16] <Minataku> Switch "M" to "X" and "G" to "Ctrl+Alt+BkSp" while you're there
[07:16] <Minataku> j/k
[07:16] <Minataku> XD
[07:16] <Dr_willis> ctrl-escape pops up the kde system guard here
[07:17] <tmbg> yeah which should be the same as the windows key that you're missing
[07:17] <tmbg> and that I'm missing for that matter
[07:17] <purpleposeidon> I'm not seeing it.... :/
[07:18] <purpleposeidon> okay, it's under 'regions & accesability' for some reason
[07:18] <Minataku> Heh
[07:18] <Minataku> I should head to sleep
[07:18] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Don't work too hard
[07:18] <Minataku> :3
[07:19] <purpleposeidon> garrr, but I want just the windows key.... it wants a combo....
[07:19] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  company all JUST arrived... egads.. my quite house...
[07:20] <Fr0de> purpleposeidon: yeah, annoying, isn't it?
[07:20] <Dr_willis> dog is going berzerk
[07:21] <klap> Espaol
[07:21] <klap> ayuda en Espaol
[07:21] <purpleposeidon> !es
[07:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:21] <Dr_willis> night all.
[07:21] <Minataku> I'm gonna head out, too
[07:21] <icecruncher> where is the sources file located?
[07:21] <Minataku> Night, everyone ^^
[07:22] <icecruncher> night
[07:23] <icecruncher> nm
[07:24] <icecruncher> anybbody know why a toshiba satelite pro wont recognize the kubuntu live or alternate cd?
[07:25] <user1__> anyone suggest a good notebook? i want it small and light, long battery life, fast with 1G ram or above
[07:25] <user1__> anyone suggest a good notebook? i want it small and light, long battery life, fast with 1G ram or above, and cheap
[07:25] <posingaspopular> icecruncher: in the cd drive?
[07:25] <icecruncher> yes
[07:25] <icecruncher> inide win they work, but not at boot
[07:25] <icecruncher> *inside
[07:26] <emonkey-f> user1__, if you're inside the US, look for the Dell ubuntu laptop
[07:29] <purpleposeidon> Those shortcuts are quiet useful...
[07:30] <draik> icecruncher: Do you have CD as a boot option higher than the HDD?
[07:30] <icecruncher> draik: yes
[07:30] <Fr0de> purpleposeidon: yeah, I remapped Win+E to launch Konqueror
[07:30] <draik> I read about issues like these back in the release of Dapper
[07:30] <rodrigo__> does anybody knows how to change the spell check tool language in kword?
[07:30] <Fr0de> purpleposeidon: and Win+R for Konsole
[07:30] <icecruncher> draik: it just worked, after restarting numerous times
[07:30] <draik> It works now?
[07:31] <icecruncher> draik: yes
[07:31] <purpleposeidon> icecruncher: I have terrible trouble booting off of burned CD's, the cd's get all scratched up. Like magic, or something.
[07:31] <draik> What can I say? I have the power
[07:31] <icecruncher> hey, it was a shipped cd
[07:31] <icecruncher> kubuntu live
[07:31] <icecruncher> lol
[07:31] <purpleposeidon> mmmMMMmmmm
[07:32] <draik> I'm remastering my Kubuntu install...
[07:32] <draik> I think I shall call it...
[07:32] <draik> DraiKubuntu
[07:32] <purpleposeidon> I suppose my computer has some sort of eville microsoft firmware on it...
[07:32] <purpleposeidon> draik: that doesn't exactly roll off the tongue :b
[07:33] <icecruncher> well, kind of
[07:33] <Fr0de> purpleposeidon: sure it does! pronounce like "Dry Kubuntu"
[07:33] <draik> It's not supposed to. Not that I want it to or not, but it's my little piece of "accomplishment"
[07:33] <draik> Fr0de: Dray Kubuntu
[07:34] <emonkey-f> icecruncher, some laptop need a cold restart to start from a different media, just resart don't work with every laptop
[07:34] <Fr0de> draik: close enough! :P
[07:34] <draik> Fr0de: Ehh... just saying.
[07:34] <linux_user400354> does anyone have experience with forwarding ports with ssh? i need some help. i haven been able to get it working.
[07:34] <draik> How many MB is a remaster'd CD?
[07:35] <Fr0de> linux_user400354: what do you need?
[07:35] <draik> I'm at 440MB right now
[07:35] <draik> linux_user400354: http://www.portforward.com
[07:35] <Fr0de> draik: 700
[07:35] <draik> nuff said
[07:35] <martik> NAAAAAAAAAVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
[07:35] <draik> Fr0de: Is it? I figure it would be less because it's not always a complete CD
[07:36] <martik> SMORES WEEEEEEEEEEEEED
[07:36] <Fr0de> draik: oh, I misunderstood your Q.. :P
[07:36] <martik> NSTER WHERE THE FUCK ARE YA?
[07:36] <posingaspopular> martik: stop. please
[07:36] <draik> I'm at 550MB right now
[07:36] <martik> sorry
[07:36] <martik> j looking for my friend
[07:36] <purpleposeidon> Fr0de: You could look it up in the man pages. Somewhere between line 1 and line 650 :b
[07:36] <nSTER> lol..... shucks
[07:36] <Fr0de> !wtf | martik
[07:36] <ubotu> martik: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:37] <purpleposeidon> wt*?
[07:37] <Fr0de> purpleposeidon: lol
[07:37] <martik> haha
[07:37] <linux_user400354> Fr0de: draik: im trying to setup port forwarding with ssh, not for ssh.
[07:37] <martik> SORRY
[07:37] <martik> PG-13 from now on
[07:37] <martik> swear
[07:37] <martik> nSTER so what's up?
[07:37] <Fr0de> linux_user400354: what have you tried?
[07:38] <purpleposeidon> offtopic, that's what's up!
[07:38] <draik> lol @ purpleposeidon
[07:38] <draik> Sorry linux_user400354
[07:38] <purpleposeidon> "SEE ALSO gzip, rsh, scp, sftp, ssh-add, ssh-agent, ssh-argv0, ssh-keygen, telnet, hosts.equiv, ssh_config, ssh-keysign, sshd"
[07:39] <nSTER> Question, whenever I try to shut down my computer the screen is still on the desktop for a while before it actually shutsdown, then the screen goes black and i only see a little bit of the kubuntu bar going down, is that normal?
[07:39] <purpleposeidon> "BOOKS `Using SSSH`, O'RIELLY, ISB #...."
[07:40] <posingaspopular> nSTER: yes
[07:40] <draik> Fr0de: Well, I passed the 700MB mark...
[07:40] <draik> 720MB and going
[07:40] <posingaspopular> nSTER: but it depends on how long you're talking abbbut
[07:40] <Fr0de> draik: you'll need a DVD for that, then
[07:41] <draik> Fr0de: That's fine.
[07:41] <icecruncher> crap, I just got an error during the install saying "Debootstrap error <br> Failed to determine the codename for the release." can anyone help?
[07:41] <draik> I just wish I knew when/where it will end so that I'm not sitting here twiddling my thumbs for a completion
[07:42] <draik> 820......
[07:42] <nSTER> posingaspopular I can like do things on my desktop while it is shutting down I just do not have the taskbar then the screen goes black for the majority of the time and i only see 5 seconds of the actual shutting down screen.
[07:44] <icecruncher> !dualboot
[07:44] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:45] <draik> Fr0de: Does this mean anything...
[07:45] <draik> sent 67442490 bytes  received 11336 bytes  2870375.57 bytes/sec
[07:45] <draik> total size is 67399289  speedup is 1.00
[07:45] <Fr0de> draik: looks like rsync output
[07:46] <Fr0de> draik: nothing to worry about, I should think
[07:46] <intelikey> i was going to set up duelboot on this lappy but had to blank the hd  so no M$ for this thing.
[07:46] <Fr0de> intelikey: I just got a lappy, wiped it and put Kubuntu on it straight away! :P
[07:47] <crazy_bus> dpkg and apt are broken.  dpkg --configure -a doesn't come up with any errors but doesn't fix the problem.  Here is a pastbin of some of the error messages; http://pastebin.ca/589769
[07:47] <intelikey> Fr0de this one is a few hours old
[07:47] <draik> Fr0de: No, I mean towards remaster size
[07:47] <Fr0de> draik: *shrug*
[07:48] <draik> 1.27GB .......
[07:49] <rodrigo_> #koffice
[07:49] <rodrigo_> hello any one use here koffice?
[07:49] <draik> 1.57GB....
[07:49] <draik> Fun times
[07:50] <draik> I really hope I don't have to use a DL DVD
[07:50] <jussi01> rodrigo_: i dont, but whats your problem?
[07:51] <rodrigo_> jussi01: i want to change the spell checker language
[07:52] <jussi01> rodrigo_: ok, sorry, probably best to /join #koffice and ask there...
[07:53] <rodrigo_> jussi01: yep thanks
[07:53] <icecruncher> can somebody tell me how to boot a different os from a toshiba satellite pro? the kubuntu live and alternate still don't work
[07:53] <draik> icecruncher: Ubuntu? Xubuntu?
[07:53] <nSTER> How can I enable file send in Kopete on AIM?
[07:53] <nSTER> it is grayed out
[07:54] <icecruncher> draik: Kubuntu
[07:54] <draik> No, have you tried Ubuntu or Xubuntu?
[07:54] <icecruncher> no
[07:55] <draik> Just a suggestion :)
[07:56] <icecruncher> draik: the only sucessfuly booted cd is Hirens
[07:56] <draik> no clue
[07:57] <icecruncher> draik: it's a general system admin cd, nothing else works though
[08:00] <draik> Fr0de: 2.0GB
[08:00] <icecruncher> i hate toshiba
[08:00] <icecruncher> lol
[08:00] <Fr0de> draik: you have until 4.4GB ;)
[08:01] <intelikey> is atheros ethernet supported ?
[08:01] <draik> I'm surprised it got that high, but then again, I do overload my installs with 3 desktops.. 4 now...
[08:02] <draik> Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu, well, 3 anyway
[08:02] <icecruncher> draik: why all 3?
[08:02] <draik> icecruncher: why not?
[08:02] <draik> Choice
[08:03] <icecruncher> draik: hehe, true, as long as you got spae for it
[08:03] <icecruncher> *space
[08:03] <icecruncher> srry
[08:03] <draik> 500GB hdd... I'm sure :)
[08:03] <icecruncher> nice
[08:04] <roho> !divx
[08:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:05] <roho> i have most codecs installed, but i can't seem to play divx stuff that plays in the browser
[08:05] <draik> I must admit...
[08:05] <draik> Feisty sure is faster than Edgy
[08:06] <draik> I'm buring 2GB in under 5 min
[08:06] <draik> roho: I had the same issue... Don't ask, I forgot
[08:07] <roho> uh... ok.
[08:07] <draik> The sad thing is that I had this issue about 1 month ago or so
[08:07] <draik> Maybe it was 2 weeks ago
[08:08] <roho> the only thing worse than no one helping is someone telling you they can't help
[08:08] <roho> heh
[08:08] <draik> I'm sorry
[08:08] <roho> it's alright
[08:08] <draik> Well, it's my time to meet my user... Night all
[08:11] <nSTER> So does anyone know how to unblock file sharing in kopete in AIM?
[08:11] <martik> ?QUESTION? I can't send files on Kopete AIM
[08:11] <martik> HOW CAN I DO THAT?
[08:11] <bob_sinclair> don't shout
[08:11] <martik> sorry
[08:11] <martik> can you answer my Q though/
[08:12] <bob_sinclair> what is the behaviour
[08:12] <nSTER> it is grayed out
[08:12] <icecruncher> !patience | martik
[08:12] <ubotu> martik: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:13] <martik> why thank you for this useful information
[08:13] <martik> :D
[08:13] <icecruncher> nSTER martik: you guys google it yet?
[08:13] <nSTER> yeah
[08:13] <nSTER> i couldnt find anything
[08:13] <martik> mhm
[08:13] <nSTER> searched on kubuntuforums.org too
[08:14] <martik> o
[08:14] <martik> i didn't do tha
[08:14] <martik> ill take nSTERS word fot iy
[08:14] <bob_sinclair> try #kopete
[08:15] <bob_sinclair> http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=send+file+kopete+greyed+out&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[08:15] <Ambientmstr> Hi, I have a kinda urgent problem. All my critical files are backed up onto a NTFS-formatted IDE drive. Fstab apparently has no entry for it, and it is not automounting. It is set on its own primary cable on cable select, but I don't think it makes a difference. Thing is, I can't see it in Windows either. I'm using Kubuntu Feisty, and here is a pastebin: http://www.pastebin.ca/589798.
[08:15] <nSTER> Thank you bob_sinclair will give them a shot
[08:15] <nSTER> yeah bob
[08:15] <nSTER> none of them are very useful
[08:15] <bob_sinclair> it could be a bug. check bugs
[08:15] <bob_sinclair> !bugs
[08:15] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:16] <bob_sinclair> not useful to you maybe, useful to someone with intuition,yes
[08:16] <icecruncher> nSTER: or it could be locked, god knows why, like the firefox update thingy
[08:16] <bob_sinclair> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140924
[08:16] <bob_sinclair> what version of kopete is it?
[08:16] <nSTER> .12.4
[08:17] <bob_sinclair> thats why
[08:17] <bob_sinclair> you need 1.0
[08:17] <martik> ?
[08:17] <nSTER> ah
[08:17] <martik> ok
[08:17] <bob_sinclair> as per the links i pasted
[08:17] <martik> thanx bob
[08:17] <icecruncher> yep
[08:17] <bob_sinclair> read next time :)
[08:17] <nSTER> seems like we need to wait for 4.0 thank you
[08:17] <martik> :)
[08:17] <bob_sinclair> google is quite powerful
[08:17] <martik> k
[08:17] <martik> oh yeahs
[08:17] <bob_sinclair> !info kopete
[08:17] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 7108 kB, installed size 19632 kB
[08:18] <martik> all hail google
[08:18] <martik> *bows*
[08:18] <Ambientmstr> Hi, I have a kinda urgent problem. All my critical files are backed up onto a NTFS-formatted IDE drive. Fstab apparently has no entry for it, and it is not automounting. It is set on its own primary cable on cable select, but I don't think it makes a difference. Thing is, I can't see it in Windows either. I'm using Kubuntu Feisty, and here is a pastebin: http://www.pastebin.ca/589798.
[08:19] <bob_sinclair> wtf
[08:19] <mike> Greets, everyone...
[08:19] <bob_sinclair> why does it say kopete is version 4 already?
[08:19] <nSTER> no
[08:19] <cje> hi, I am a SuSE user how is moving to Edgy Kubuntu.  How do I use Konqueror to change the permissions on lots of directories and the files in those directories?  When I right-click on the directory, I cannot change permissions, because AFAIK, there is no way to use sudo in Kubuntu Edgy Konqueror, which means I would have to use the command line to change these permissions.
[08:20] <bob_sinclair> im on feisty and i don't see kopete 4 available
[08:20] <nSTER> In the link you posted version 1 of kopete will be released with KDE 4.0 with those file sending enabled
[08:20] <martik> hmm
[08:20] <martik> i guess we have to wait untill KDE 4
[08:20] <icecruncher> cje: hit al+F2
[08:20] <bob_sinclair> oh yeah
[08:20] <bob_sinclair> but ubotu is saying version 4
[08:20] <icecruncher> cje: then type in "kdesu konqueror"
[08:21] <bob_sinclair> maybe 4:3.5.6 means something else
[08:21] <cje> k
[08:21] <nSTER> just be its own version scheme
[08:21] <bob_sinclair> Ambientmstr: check sudo fdisk -l
[08:21] <nSTER> must*
[08:21] <martik> maybe if you put them in order....
[08:21] <bob_sinclair> never seen it like that before
[08:21] <cje> And that will make me a SU under Konqueror, right?
[08:21] <martik> 3.4.5.6.
[08:21] <martik> nope still nothing
[08:21] <icecruncher> cje: then go to location , right click the main folder, go to the permissions tab
[08:21] <Ambientmstr> bob_sinclair I already have. It just shows me all my partitions on my sda (main drive)
[08:21] <icecruncher> cje: yep
[08:21] <bob_sinclair> Ambientmstr: which is the one you want to mount?
[08:22] <cje> icecruncher:  thanks tons!  I'll give that a try now.
[08:22] <icecruncher> cje: then change the permission as you want, then select the small tick bock at the bottom saying applay to all sub folders dadada
[08:22] <cje> k
[08:22] <cje> thx !
[08:22] <Ambientmstr> bob_sinclair: It isn't listed.
[08:23] <bob_sinclair> Ambientmstr: then it doesn't exist
[08:23] <icecruncher> cje: np
[08:24] <Ambientmstr> Ambientmstr: What do you mean it doesn't exist? The drive is plugged in right now.
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> hey everyone. my network has been acting up lately. much slower performance that usual
[08:25] <icecruncher> Admiral_Chicago: fun fun
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> it is possible to check though my router which IPs have been accessing
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> icecruncher: sorry that was meant to be a question
[08:25] <icecruncher> np. lol
[08:26] <icecruncher> Admiral_Chicago: depends what kind a router you got
[08:26] <roho> ok, all i want to know is how to get divx movies to play in konqueror or firefox.  i've tried all the movie programs in the file assoc. for konq and no luck.  am i missing some software?
[08:26] <mike> Can someone help me get a Zeroconf network set up? I keep getting "The Zeroconf daemon (mdnsd) is not running" when I click Network Services in Konqueror. Searched through the forums and couldn't find anything useful.
[08:26] <icecruncher> Admiral_Chicago: try the DHCP table if you got oe
[08:27] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i did, it does active IPs only
[08:27] <icecruncher> Admiral_Chicago: you want all?
[08:27] <icecruncher> Admiral_Chicago: no idea. lol
[08:27] <mike> roho: You can play the files outside of a browser?
[08:28] <roho> mike: no
[08:29] <flaccid> !divx
[08:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:29] <mike> roho: Run "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" from Konsole
[08:29] <nSTER> roho @ did u try mplayer's firefox plugin?
[08:30] <roho> mike: already installed
[08:30] <roho> nSTER: tried to install mplayerplug-in, but apt-get won't let me, wants mozilla-mplayer instead
[08:30] <nSTER> yeah thats it
[08:30] <nSTER> it should work with all videos on stage6.com
[08:30] <mike> roho: Hmm... You could try adding Seveas' repo. and getting w32codecs
[08:30] <roho> nSTER: apt-get won't let me install it!
[08:30] <nSTER> oh 2 seconds
[08:31] <nSTER> let me see
[08:31] <roho> mike: do you have documentation on that?
[08:31] <mike> roho: No, he means you WANT to install mozilla-mplayer ;-)
[08:31] <mike> roho: That's the correct package
[08:31] <roho> it's installed
[08:31] <roho> but can't play those videos
[08:31] <nSTER> try this
[08:31] <mike> roho: Oh ok. seveas.imbrandon.com
[08:31] <nSTER> about:plugins in firefox
[08:32] <nSTER> see if it has mplayer in there
[08:32] <mike> nSTER: It's a codec issue. He can't play them outside of Firefox either. ;-)
[08:32] <nSTER> oh
[08:32] <mike> roho: Go here - seveas.imbrandon.com - that'll walk you through adding that repository
[08:32] <roho> well, yeah, all that stuff is there nster.
[08:32] <cje> hi, I am a simple end user who is moving from SuSE to Edgy kubuntu.  I have an external hard drive attached via USB 2.0 to my Edgy Kubuntu box.  I would like to find out how much room for storage is available on that drive.  How do I do that please?
[08:33] <mike> cje: Navigate to it in Konqueror, right-click -> Properties
[08:33] <cje> mike: thanks, I'll give that a try!
[08:33] <mike> Does anyone here have any experience with Zeroconf?
[08:34] <mike> cje: Np :-)
[08:34] <nSTER> roho if i am not mistaken you need to enable divx support, go to apple trailers or something so you can get mplayer to player a video, then go into the config you should see enable DIVX support and you should be able to check mark it.
[08:34] <roho> mike: that repository doesn't seem to have anything to do with codecs
[08:34] <nSTER> it is disabled by default for some reason
[08:34] <cje> mike: that worked, thanks!!
[08:34] <mike> roho: It contains w32codecs, which is most likely what you need
[08:35] <mike> cje: Np
[08:36] <eagles0513875> !w32codecs
[08:36] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[08:36] <roho> mike: uh, i don't think it does. all i see is a package called freenx
[08:36] <roho> weird.
[08:37] <mike> roho: One sec...
[08:37] <mike> roho: What line did you add to your sources.list?
[08:38] <cje> thanks to mike and icecruncher for helping me.  Good night to all of you!
[08:38] <icecruncher> cje: welcome
[08:38] <roho> mike: i haven't added anything yet
[08:38] <roho> i'm looking at the page
[08:38] <roho> it only talks about one package, though
[08:38] <roho> which is about exporting X sessions
[08:39] <mike> roho: Wrong page. ;-)
[08:39] <brmassa> Guys, im interested on test KVM. Can i use a old Athlon XP processor? Or it shuold be a virtualization-friend processor?
[08:39] <roho> oh
[08:39] <mike> roho: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/feisty-seveas/all/
[08:40] <roho> so after installing that w32 pkg, i should be able to see those videos?
[08:40] <jussi01> roho: should...
[08:41] <mike> Theoretically, yeah. What's the website you're trying to look at? I can make sure for you if you want
[08:41] <roho> will i be able to play in konqueror?
[08:41] <roho> ok
[08:41] <roho> http://www.tv-links.co.uk/link.do/4/481/939/11461/19352
[08:41] <roho> that's the stage6 link
[08:43] <roho> i installed the w32 pkg, still can't watch that clip in konqueror or firefox
[08:45] <brmassa> Anyone here have any experience with virtualization?
[08:45] <AscendedDaniel> hey guys, how to I configure what programs run when I start kubuntu?
[08:45] <AscendedDaniel> brmassa: yes, I've played around with vmware stuff
[08:45] <mike> AscendedDaniel: Open ~/.kde/Autostart in Konqueror and drag and drop from the K Menu
[08:46] <AscendedDaniel> thanks
[08:46] <mike> np
[08:46] <Lynoure> brmassa: yes. Ask your real question for better results :)
[08:46] <roho> mike: so did it load?
[08:46] <mike> roho: Nope. :-\
[08:46] <roho> yeah
[08:47] <roho> maybe you can't play those movies in linux or something
[08:47] <roho> but that guy earlier seemed to have been confident
[08:47] <brmassa> I just want to know if a virtualization-ready processor should be used or i can use a ordinary Athlon XP?
[08:47] <nSTER> Roho
[08:47] <roho> nSTER: yes.
[08:47] <nSTER> for some reason divx videos do not work properly in tv links
[08:47] <nSTER> www.stage6.com try that
[08:47] <Lynoure> brmassa: you do not need anything special from the processor in normal cases.
[08:47] <AscendedDaniel> I've done virtualization well with Athlon XP
[08:47] <nSTER> see if it works on the actual divx website
[08:49] <brmassa> wel... i read the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM tutorial. but i every time i do modprobe kvm-amd it says "Operation not supported"
[08:49] <mike> nSTER: That one plays fine in FF on this end, but not Konqueror.
[08:49] <roho> nSTER: it says "for linux support try mplayer"
[08:49] <nSTER> yeah i never got it working with konqueror
[08:50] <nSTER> hmmm weird
[08:50] <roho> and then it takes you to their gay ass download the windows client
[08:50] <Ragol> hi
[08:50] <roho> no, i tried that with firefox
[08:50] <Ragol> any ideas why katapult isn't working as a calc in 7.04, I used it quite much in 6.10
[08:50] <roho> nSTER: so, does it work for you or not?
[08:50] <mike> roho: MPlayer's not even coming up in FF when you go to www.stage6.com ?
[08:51] <roho> no
[08:51] <roho> it says try mplayer
[08:51] <Ragol> is there some pkg missing, or is there some line in some conf file?
[08:51] <brmassa> (who can i write private messages here on Konvcersation/IRC ?)
[08:51] <nSTER> im having the same problem as you, it worked on ubuntu for me, 2 seconds trying to see what is the problem
[08:51] <Jucato> Ragol: Alt+Space, Ctrl+C, Configure Katapult, then check if the Calculator Catalog is enabled
[08:51] <nSTER> it worked for mike
[08:52] <Lynoure> brmassa: if you mean how,  /msg nickname yourtexthere
[08:52] <roho> nSTER: it did?
[08:52] <Jucato> brmassa: you need to register your nick to be able to send private messages in Freenode (this server)
[08:52] <maltron> hey all - has anybody here experienced problems running the "time" command?
[08:52] <mike> roho: And you have mozilla-mplayer installed, and closed and re-opened Firefox after installing it?
[08:53] <brmassa> and how can i register?
[08:53] <Ragol> Jucato: thanks! it wasn't checked for some reason... this helps a lot :)
[08:53] <maltron> I can't seem to pass options to time, nor can I redirect its output
[08:53] <Jucato> !register | brmassa
[08:53] <ubotu> brmassa: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[08:53] <roho> no
[08:53] <nSTER> got it roho
[08:53] <nSTER> in konsole type this
[08:53] <roho> it shows that video that they feature but in white it says "For Linux support try Mplayer"
[08:53] <brmassa> !register  | brmassa
[08:54] <nSTER>  cd /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[08:54] <nSTER> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in-dvx.xpt
[08:54] <nSTER> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in-dvx.so
[08:54] <nSTER> restart firefox then enjoy
[08:54] <roho> ok
[08:54] <roho> so it won't work in konqueror though, right?
[08:55] <nSTER> nope, never tried it and wont i use firefox anyways
[08:55] <nSTER> i find the engine better on firefox
[08:55] <roho> ok, it works in firefox
[08:55] <roho> yeah, i know, but everything's integrated in konqueror
[08:55] <mike> roho: I had to mess with the File Association and Plugin settings to get it to work in Konqueror. Don't remember exactly what I did though
[08:55] <nSTER> yeah in KDE 4 konqueror is being replaced with dolphin :O
[08:56] <mike> dolphin is strictly a file manager, right?
[08:56] <nSTER> yes
[08:56] <nSTER> a very good one too
[08:56] <nSTER> simple , light weight
[08:56] <roho> mike: yeah, i've been messing there too.  do you remember messing with anything more than the .divx extension?
[08:56] <roho> so no more integration, i guess
[08:56] <Jucato> roho: what are you trying to do? (just came in)
[08:56] <mike> I tinkered with it a little bit several months ago. Didn't really see anything great enough to pull me away from Konqueror
[08:57] <roho> Jucato: well, these guys helped me (THANKS!) get divx movies to play in firefox. now, if i could just get them to play in konqueror
[08:57] <nSTER> Konqueror is more like explorer imo
[08:57] <mike> ugh
[08:57] <mike> lol
[08:57] <Jucato> mike: because what you tried is ages old from the real thing in KDE 4
[08:57] <nSTER> np
[08:57] <Jucato> roho: what did you install to let the play in Firefox?
[08:57] <nSTER> [02:54]  <nSTER> cd /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[08:57] <nSTER> [02:54]  --> Lattyware has joined this channel (n=Latty@host86-134-70-215.range86-134.btcentralplus.com).
[08:57] <nSTER> [02:54]  <nSTER> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in-dvx.xpt
[08:57] <nSTER> [02:54]  <nSTER> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/mplayerplug-in-dvx.so
[08:57] <nSTER> those
[08:58] <mike> Jucato: I'll give it another look when KDE4 hits. I have a feeling I'll be sticking with Konqueror though
[08:58] <roho> Jucato: what nSTER said
[08:58] <mike> Dolphin doesn't do view profiles does it?
[08:58] <Jucato> nSTER: next time, don't paste like that
[08:58] <nSTER> sorry....
[08:58] <Jucato> mike: it doesn't need to. it has only one profile: file management
[08:58] <mike> I use different view profiles FOR file management. ;-)
[08:59] <roho> Jucato: you wouldn't happen to know how i would do that in konqueror would you? because obviously, the codecs are there
[08:59] <mike> e.g., having 2-3 folders open in different split views
[08:59] <Jucato> roho: try this. go to Konqueror -> Settings -> COnfigure Konqueror -> Plugins -> Scan for new plugins
[08:59] <Jucato> mike: then you will definitely be sticking to Konqueror. Dolphin can only split once
[09:00] <roho> the plugin is listed
[09:00] <roho> hm
[09:01] <roho> so if the plugin is listed, it should just work, right? i shouldn't have to set up a file assoc.
[09:01] <Jucato> yes you don't
[09:01] <nSTER> Im off to hit the hay, goodbye everyone.
[09:01] <Jucato> actually you shouldn't
[09:01] <mike> Jucato: Thanks for the tip.
[09:01] <mike> G'nite
[09:02] <roho> so it must be the way tvlinks handles redirects or whatever
[09:03] <mike> roho: Just got the video on stage6.divx.com running in Konq.
[09:03] <roho> excellent
[09:03] <roho> that's a good sign
[09:03] <roho> because i've noticed other sites that grab stuff from stage6 don't work
[09:03] <mike> It's a little screwed up, but it works
[09:04] <roho> what did you dink with to make it work?
[09:04] <brmassa> Anyone knows why i keep gettin "Operation not supported" when i run "sudo modprobe kvm-amd"?
[09:04] <brmassa> Im trying to install KVM?
[09:04] <brmassa> !
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone know how I can check why my network has been slow lately
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> its OS indepent however
[09:05] <mike> roho: Go to Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations, search for Divx, and under Embedding, add Embedded MPlayer for KDE for each file type
[09:05] <kAruPoK> i accidentally entered from the grub the ubuntu recovery....how do i restart the pPC?
[09:05] <roho> aha, i knew it had to do with embedding
[09:06] <mike> roho: Actually, you could just do that for the whole Video group if you want.
[09:06] <mike> I'm thinking that should cover all the formats
[09:06] <roho> ok
[09:07] <mike> Actually, spoke too soon. Sorry. heh
[09:07] <mike> That option's not even there when a group is selected. :-\
[09:08] <roho> well, i did it
[09:08] <roho> and it works!
[09:08] <roho> you're right, it's a bit odd
[09:08] <Jucato> kAruPoK: restart -r now
[09:08] <mike> roho: The video isn't playing on the part of the page where it should be, right?
[09:08] <kAruPoK> ok thanks
[09:08] <roho> mike: heh, no.
[09:09] <roho> but, at least i can save video and such
[09:09] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: any idea about my network problem
[09:09] <kAruPoK> Jucato: it doesnt work
[09:09] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: oh.. sorry.. networking idiot here
[09:09] <Jucato> kAruPoK: you are in the command line right?
[09:09] <kAruPoK> yeah
[09:10] <Jucato> how does it not work? what is is saying?
[09:10] <kAruPoK> command not found
[09:10] <tmbg> as soon as I mount my windows install (/dev/sda1) on /windows, the permissions switch to dr-x------ root/root, even if I mount rw.
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: me too, I'm thinking of just dailing the phone company
[09:10] <tmbg> how can I mount it so that users can mess with it?
[09:10] <Admiral_Chicago> it started recently on my machines that I didn't change the configs of
[09:11] <Jucato> kAruPoK: oh my bad... "shutdown -r now"
[09:11] <kAruPoK> ok
[09:12] <Jucato> tmbg: you shouldn't be messing with NTFS drives/partitions directly anyway
[09:12] <Jucato> that's why normal users don't have regular rw access to NTFS partitions by default
[09:12] <tmbg> did I ask for a lecture?
[09:12] <Jucato> !ntfs | tmbg
[09:12] <ubotu> tmbg: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:12] <tmbg> I don't think I did.
[09:13] <kAruPoK> Jucato: it worked now thanks
[09:13] <Jucato> sheesh
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> tmbg: words of advice: be more respectful to the volunteers here
[09:14] <tmbg> I don't want the thing mounted automatically.
[09:14] <tmbg> I want to do it once, from the command line.
[09:14] <tmbg> I'm sorry, but one of my pet peeves is asking a different question than the one asked.
[09:14] <tmbg> "what time is it?" "Oh I think it's going to rain today, actually" <-- wtf? maddening.
[09:15] <Admiral_Chicago> tmbg: sudo mount /dev/hda* (whatever the device is) /mount/point
[09:15] <Admiral_Chicago> you might need to add the -t flag in there
[09:15] <tmbg> yes, done.
[09:15] <tmbg> it switches the permissions on me after it mounts, so that users can't access it
[09:15] <tmbg> that was my original question
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> ah okay i didn't read that
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> might want to do chmod 0777 /mount/point
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> iirc, thats the command to use
[09:17] <tmbg> dr-x------   1 root root   4096 2007-06-19 01:52 windows (mounted) and drwxr-xr-x   2 root root   4096 2007-03-31 23:22 windows (unmounted)
[09:17] <tmbg> wtf is that? I did no chmod. why is mount changing the permissions of the mount point.
[09:18] <tmbg> yeah it's nice if people actually read and answer the question asked, but you can't win 'em all.
[09:19] <crimsun> mount doesn't respect mount point permissions, nor does it need to, nor should it (semantically).
[09:20] <crimsun> instead, use the appropriate umask/fmask/dmask options.
[09:20] <tmbg> I see. why shouldn't it follow mount point perms?
[09:20] <crimsun> in some instances, uid/gid is preferred to umask/fmask/dmask.
[09:20] <tmbg> because they aren't explicitly set at mount time and a user could be careless?
[09:21] <crimsun> because the mount point is not a pivot.  The volume/partition that you're mounting has permissions that must be allowed to override the mount point's.
[09:22] <fritz> hey, i'm running kubuntu and want to install windows on a separate disk...can any1 tell me how to set up the GRUB after...cause the windows MBR doesen't let you choose between  oss
[09:22] <Jucato> !grub | fritz
[09:22] <ubotu> fritz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:22] <jussi01> !grub | fritz
[09:22] <jussi01> lol
[09:23] <Jucato> crimsun: the options you can feed into "mount" are the same options you put in fstab right?
[09:23] <crimsun> yes.
[09:24] <crimsun> it's actually the reverse; fstab(5) honours mount semantics.
[09:24] <Jucato> so that portion in the AutomaticallyMountPartitions page, the one that tells how to make a partition accessible to everyone, say an NTFS partition, is actually useful right?
[09:24] <Jucato> heh fstab(5) :P
[09:24] <crimsun> wiki/AutomaticallyMountPartitions?
[09:24] <Jucato> !ntfs
[09:25] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:25] <tmbg> Jucato, when I want to do it from the command line? no.
[09:25] <crimsun> seems sensible to me, Jucato.
[09:26] <Jucato> crimsun: thanks. just double checking :)
[09:26] <roho> !dolphin
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dolphin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <Jucato> !info dolphin | roho
[09:26] <ubotu> roho: dolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1251 kB, installed size 2252 kB
[09:26] <roho> thanks
[09:27] <roho> so will konqueror go away then?
[09:27] <Jucato> nope
[09:28] <roho> Jucato: you know of a page that talks about the future of kde? what they're aiming for?
[09:28] <Jucato> roho: try to see the articles in http://dot.kde.org
[09:28] <roho> thx
[09:29] <Jucato> specially the Road to KDE 4 and the Pillars of KDE articles
[09:36] <bengi_> kanalda trk warm
[09:45] <tmbg> umask 022 was what I needed. thankies
[09:47] <yeniklasor> I forgot my bluetooth paired device password. How can I reset or change it?
[09:49] <se7en> doese sombody know how to use scp    i loged on a remote box and would like to scp a folder from the local box to the remote
[09:49] <llutz> se7en: man scp
[09:51] <crocodile> how did the writers of amarok forget to put an "open" button on the mini player... man
[09:52] <Jucato> crocodile: huh?
[09:52] <crocodile> in amarok, when you use the mini player (not the full screen one) there is no button to "open"
[09:52] <fritz> how do i burn a image that is like .iso.bz2 or .iso.gz cause k3b won't burn it to disk
[09:52] <se7en> llutz: I have done that and google but i cant get the command right ...
[09:52] <crocodile> only stop/play/next/previous
[09:53] <Jucato> crocodile: because that's not how the "mini player" (a.k.a. player window) is supposed to work.
[09:53] <llutz> se7en: scp -r local/folder user@remote:path/
[09:54] <Jucato> crocodile: it's supposed to be a clone of XMMS/Winamp, which also don't have an "open" button
[09:54] <crocodile> jucato - yes they most definately do
[09:54] <crocodile> and why would you not include an open button, what possible reason would you 'not want it to work' that way?
[09:54] <Jucato> crocodile: i guess that depends on the skin. I used Winamp on Windows. definitely no open button in the main player window. almost everything is right-click
[09:55] <llutz> se7en: use konqueror -> fish://user@remote-host        and copy by mouse
[09:55] <crocodile> no every single winamp skin has an open button I'm sorry mate but you're wroong
[09:55] <nixternal> winamp?
[09:55] <crocodile> as does XMMS , audacious, beep media player, and the rest
[09:55] <nixternal> wth is that
[09:55] <Jucato> nixternal: you're not helping! :P
[09:55] <nixternal> don't know what it is ;p
[09:55] <fritz> any1...i want to write the grub super-disk but the image is .iso.bz2 or iso.gz....and i can't burn it....tryied saving it as iso but it doesen't work tht way either
[09:56] <Jucato> crocodile: anyway, if you really want  to argue that there should be one, you can head over to #amarok and tell them about it
[09:56] <crocodile> the argument that it doesn't have one is just wrong :X
[09:56] <Jucato> not much we can do about it over here
[09:56] <llutz> fritz: bunzip2 bla.iso.bz2
[09:56] <nixternal> if iso.gz then ->  gunzip *.iso.gz
[09:56] <nixternal> or what llutz just said for bz2 ;)
[09:56] <nixternal> or right click and extract
[09:56] <fritz> oh..so bz2 or gz is like rar in windows :-?
[09:57] <llutz> fritz: those are packers, yes
[09:57] <Jucato> fritz: there's also rar in Linux... but basically yes...
[09:57] <Jucato> fritz: .zip, .rar, bz2, gz, .7z, etc. are compressed file formats/archives
[09:57] <fritz> aha...gotcha...thnx:)
[09:57] <nixternal> .bz2 > .* :)
[09:58] <Jucato> tsk tsk :)
[09:58] <nixternal> no, tsk tsk == emacs >>>>>> vi ;p
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> best way to share file over two computers that share a router?
[10:00] <llutz> Admiral_Chicago: ssh/nfs
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: luckily you are here so i don't repeat the question in -chicago
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> llutz: got a guide?
[10:01] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: samba
[10:01] <llutz> Admiral_Chicago: only german ones,sry
[10:01] <llutz> !ssh
[10:01] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:01] <llutz> Admiral_Chicago: ^^
[10:01] <nixternal> or what llutz said, but something tells me one pc is winblows
[10:01] <llutz> nixternal: ssh/nfs work on windows aswell
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> i saw the !nfs page, it was a bit over my head
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> !samba
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> nixternal: i'll read the guide
[10:01] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:02] <nixternal> Admiral_Chicago: sudo emacs -nw /etc/samba/smb.conf   set network to your network name; sudo apt-get install samba; enjoy!
[10:02] <nixternal> s/emacs/with whatever you use
[10:03] <Admiral_Chicago> will do
[10:03] <Admiral_Chicago> network == my essid?
[10:03] <KomiaPoika> can someone help me with warnquota and exim?
[10:04] <nixternal> network == mshome ;p
[10:05] <Kprofthreat> w00t
[10:05] <Kprofthreat> I got it workin
[10:13] <r3> good day ... i run into couple trouble on a new feisty .. would you guyz help me out pls ?
[10:14] <r3> first of all .. since the updates.. my dial up.. dials in, yet browser would not respond (is that some firewall or what?)
[10:15] <tmbg> which browser?
[10:15] <tmbg> firefox had some sort of issue where you had to disable some ipv6 stuff
[10:15] <r3> nothing reacts to the kppp - nor even the apt-get
[10:16] <r3> (there was also this anoying thing i had to uninstal brltty - kept disconecting my modem instantly(
[10:16] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[10:17] <MilhousePunkRock> I am trying to look at my /var/log/syslog but apparently it is too big after one your on Kubuntu so neither vim nor kate can open it...
[10:21] <arafat> MilhousePunkRock: not even vim? how big is it?
[10:22] <MilhousePunkRock> arafat: I gave up on vim after 15 minutes of harddrive noise... Let me check the size
[10:22] <MilhousePunkRock> arafat: Holy sh... It's 1.1 GB !!!
[10:25] <pag> MilhousePunkRock, have you tried opening it with  less  ?
[10:26] <MilhousePunkRock> pag: OK, it seems I have grep'ed what I need from it... So what filesystem could my new external HDD have if it's not FAT and not NTFS...
[10:27] <pag> MilhousePunkRock, are you sure, that it's formated to any FS at all?
[10:28] <MilhousePunkRock> pag: I am just checking the manufacturers site... I have never seen an external drive being unformatted when new...
[10:29] <axxo> run some fdisk program and find out
[10:30] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: I've always seen the other way around.
[10:31] <MilhousePunkRock> I've also done a lot of reading on external drives, everyone complained they mostly come as FAT and need to be reformatted to NTFS (for windows use, of course), so that those Mac users can start right away too...
[10:31] <mat1980> MilhousePunkRock: give us the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/xxx   where xxx is the divice of your external drive
[10:32] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: external flash or hard drive? If it's the latter, it's almost certainly without any fs.
[10:33] <MilhousePunkRock> http://pastebin.ca/589908
[10:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Maxtor says the prepared the drive with one large NTFS partition... Does Kubuntu come with the ability to read NTFS out of the box?
[10:35] <tmbg> I recall it doing so, but it won't autodetect it. you gotta tell it -t ntfs
[10:36] <MilhousePunkRock> tmbg: I tried that already, it says bad superblock or something. So either it's not really formatted, or it's corrupted... Maybe I should try at a Windows machine...
[10:37] <tmbg> good idea.
[10:37] <axxo> ntfs doesn't play to well with linux
[10:37] <axxo> just reformat it
[10:37] <MilhousePunkRock> In the syslog it says: Not an NTFS volume
[10:37] <Ze_M> where is possible to get the source packages?
[10:38] <MilhousePunkRock> axxo: I am not sure if I am going to keep it at all, so I might give up already... It's a little too noisy for my taste and for what I plan to use it...
[10:39] <Ze_M> where is possible to get the source packages?
[10:42] <mat1980> Ze_M: source packeges of what? however you have to enable the source repository, then look for the packages with src as suffix
[10:43] <Ze_M> mat1980: im at http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/kde/kdebase
[10:47] <mat1980> Ze_M: well, I was wrong. Look at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[10:59] <MilhousePunkRock> OK, I am on the desktop machine now, where I have FUSE, so the drive gets mounted, but I can't access it anyway...
[11:03] <mat1980> MilhousePunkRock: what drive?
[11:04] <mat1980> MilhousePunkRock: ok, I've found on history.
[11:05] <mat1980> MilhousePunkRock: give us the output of mount
[11:05] <MilhousePunkRock> mat1980: I've been here a few minutes ago, thought the guys who tried to help would remember me... Maxtor Personal Storage 3200 External USB HDD, claims to be ntfs formatted
[11:05] <MilhousePunkRock> mat1980: /dev/sda1 on /media/disk type ntfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[11:06] <MilhousePunkRock> TheGateKeeper: Hey!
[11:06] <TheGateKeeper> MilhousePunkRock, hey how are you doing?
[11:06] <MilhousePunkRock> TheGateKeeper: In general, OK... You?
[11:06] <TheGateKeeper> MilhousePunkRock, fine thanks
[11:08] <TheGateKeeper> MilhousePunkRock, what distro(s) you running these days?
[11:09] <mat1980> MilhousePunkRock: ok, you have to mount the disk with umask=000 option, and probably with different filesystem type (I guess ntfs-3g, I'll search)
[11:09] <MilhousePunkRock> TheGateKeeper: Still Kubuntu on the Laptop, Feisty for quite some time already, and Gentoo on the desktop... I might swap Kubuntu for Xubuntu and Gentoo for Kubuntu though, when I am through with my exams
[11:09] <mat1980> !ntfs
[11:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> mat1980: That was all Gentoo's automagic here on the desktop. ntfs-3g is installed anyway
[11:11] <MilhousePunkRock> mat1980: I got my girlfriend's horrible XP laptop here, let's see what it does there...
[11:14] <MilhousePunkRock> mat1980: No problems in win...
[11:17] <icecruncher> is it necessary to install windows first for a dualboot
[11:17] <mat1980> MilhousePunkRock: try mount -t ntfs-3g -o umask=000 /dev/xxx /media/yyy      change xxx and yyy properly
[11:17] <icecruncher> ?
[11:17] <MilhousePunkRock> mat1980: So I guess I will reformat it in ext3 and see how it behaves there...
[11:18] <TheGateKeeper> icecruncher, that is the easiest way to do it, I think it is possible the other way round but not recommended
[11:19] <tmbg> icecruncher, yes. otherwise windows will overwrite your mbr and destroy your bootloader
[11:19] <icecruncher> TheGateKeeper: My installs keep crashing on my toshiba
[11:19] <TheGateKeeper> icecruncher, linux or windows?
[11:19] <MilhousePunkRock> mat1980: There we go...
[11:20] <icecruncher> kubuntu
[11:20] <icecruncher> TheGateKeeper: is there any way to do it without crahing?
[11:20] <icecruncher> *crashing
[11:21] <MilhousePunkRock> mat1980: Apparently it was my fault, I tried to mount the device instead of the partition... o.O
[11:21] <TheGateKeeper> well there is a google video showing what you need to do, the other option would be to put kubuntu (or windows come to that) in a virtual machine like Virtualbox
[11:22] <icecruncher> TheGateKeeper: virtual is not an option, but what is that google vi?
[11:23] <TheGateKeeper> icecruncher, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236
[11:23] <icecruncher> thnks
[11:23] <TheGateKeeper> icecruncher, yw :-) good luck
[11:23] <icecruncher> TheGateKeeper: any idea why every kubuntu installer somehow manages to crash at the partitioning part? I'm talking about past history too
[11:25] <TheGateKeeper> icecruncher, no not really, I would set up your partitions using gparted live cd & use the 'alternative' cd and tell it where you want things
[11:25] <TheGateKeeper> icecruncher, pclinuxos is also very nice too, so you might want to try that
[11:27] <TheGateKeeper> icecruncher, if all your hdd is ntfs, then you need to shrink it so linux can have a swap & ext3 partition
[11:28] <dehm> quick question, for some reason nothing is showing up in kicker.. the only way i can switch is via alt-tab
[11:29] <r3> may i request help concerning compiz ? ( the channel compiz seems to be dead)
[11:29] <kraut> moin
[11:30] <icecruncher> TheGateKeeper: anyways, got the kubuntu install finaly running, after 6 hours of sweat
[11:30] <icecruncher> lol
[11:30] <icecruncher> TheGateKeeper: I must say that toshiba is horrible to install on
[11:31] <TheGateKeeper> icecruncher, may be you have driver problems idk
[11:32] <icecruncher> TheGateKeeper: well the installer kept giving me wierd problems both live and alternate
[11:32] <Gianfrix> hi
[11:51] <metbsd> can someone take a look at my aptitude output: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/936627
[11:53] <dehm> quick question, for some reason nothing is showing up in kicker.. the only way i can switch is via alt-tab ??
[12:01] <TeraDyne> dehm: you might have accidently gotten rid of your taskbar. Try readding it by right clicking on your panel and selecting add applet to panel. Find "Taskbar
[12:01] <TeraDyne> in the menu and double click it
[12:13] <bob__> what kind of thing is this?
[12:14] <axxo> irc
[12:14] <bob__> im new
[12:14] <bob__> never messed with linux before
[12:14] <lordofheat> how to install nvidia drivers in kde?
[12:14] <lordofheat> System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager
[12:14] <bob__> no idea
[12:15] <lordofheat> I don't have that in kubuntu
[12:15] <axxo> system settings -> computer admin -> mon display -> hardware  ?
[12:17] <lordofheat> axxo: and where do I enable restricted drivers there?
[12:17] <axxo> configure the card, select it from the list
[12:23] <dehm> TeraDyne, thanks much, i know i removed something but couldnt figure out wish
[12:23] <dehm> which
[12:24] <TeraDyne> dehm: No problem. I've removed my taskbar before, too, so I know how frustrating it is.
[12:24] <dehm> i was like what the......
[12:44] <mneisen> Hi, could someone familiar with kernel upgrades, dpkg incantations and the like please have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484030 ? Thanks in advance!
[12:49] <_4strO> yop yop
[12:52] <tdn> How do I get the sources for the new Amarok for Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn? On amarok.kde.org there is only sources for Edgy Eft.
[12:53] <pag> tdn, apt-get source amarok   that should work :)
[12:57] <corne> Hi there
[12:58] <pag> !hi | corne
[12:58] <ubotu> corne: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:58] <corne> does anyone know a solution for some samba dependency errors?
[01:01] <corne> Setting up samba-common (3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2) ...
[01:01] <corne> /bin/sh: Can't open tail
[01:01] <corne> dpkg: error processing samba-common (--configure):
[01:02] <corne>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[01:02] <corne> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of samba:
[01:02] <corne>  samba depends on samba-common (= 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2); however:
[01:02] <corne>   Package samba-common is not configured yet.
[01:02] <corne> dpkg: error processing samba (--configure):
[01:02] <corne>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[01:02] <corne> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smbclient:
[01:02] <corne>  smbclient depends on samba-common (= 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2); however:
[01:02] <corne>   Package samba-common is not configured yet.
[01:02] <corne> dpkg: error processing smbclient (--configure):
[01:02] <pag> !paste | corne
[01:02] <ubotu> corne: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:02] <corne>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[01:02] <corne> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smbfs:
[01:02] <corne>  smbfs depends on samba-common (= 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2); however:
[01:03] <corne>   Package samba-common is not configured yet.
[01:03] <corne> dpkg: error processing smbfs (--configure):
[01:03] <corne>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[01:03] <corne> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:03] <corne>  samba-common
[01:03] <corne>  samba
[01:03] <corne>  smbclient
[01:03] <corne>  smbfs
[01:03] <corne> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:03] <eagles0513875> corne
[01:03] <eagles0513875> dont flood channel use pastbin.ca
[01:03] <eagles0513875> ull get kicked
[01:03] <corne> ok.. i'm sorry
[01:03] <corne> didnt know that
[01:03] <eagles0513875> its ok im just worning u even ubotu the bot gave u the heads up too
[01:04] <eagles0513875> corne u havent configured samba have u
[01:04] <eagles0513875> corne
[01:04] <corne> well i recently reinstall ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop
[01:04] <eagles0513875> ok
[01:04] <eagles0513875> run this !aptfix
[01:04] <eagles0513875> wait
[01:04] <eagles0513875> !aptfix |corne
[01:04] <ubotu> corne: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:05] <corne> with the previous install i didnt have to configure samba
[01:05] <eagles0513875> use that command to finish install samba
[01:05] <eagles0513875> ok well when u get an error like u did u need to run the command above
[01:05] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[01:05] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:05] <eagles0513875> let me know if that helped any
[01:06] <corne> sudo fuser .. wont help
[01:06] <eagles0513875> ok what is it asking now
[01:06] <eagles0513875> to configure it
[01:06] <corne> he wont find command aptfix
[01:07] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[01:07] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:07] <eagles0513875> lol u need to put exclamation point in front of anythign if u want to ask him anything
[01:07] <eagles0513875> then try this corne sudo samba --configure
[01:08] <corne> bash: aptfix: command not found
[01:08] <eagles0513875> u using kubuntu or ubuntu
[01:08] <eagles0513875> dont type aptfix dude
[01:08] <corne> i type: !aptfix
[01:08] <eagles0513875> type just this
[01:08] <eagles0513875> no that is only to be used in here if u want ubotu (bot) to tell u what something is
[01:08] <eagles0513875> look
[01:08] <eagles0513875> !samba
[01:09] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:09] <eagles0513875> ok
[01:09] <eagles0513875> in the shell type just this dude
[01:09] <eagles0513875> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:09] <eagles0513875> let me know if that helps
[01:10] <corne> still same error
[01:10] <corne> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27255/
[01:10] <eagles0513875> then try sudo samba --configure
[01:11] <corne> sudo: samba: command not found
[01:11] <eagles0513875> samba --configure
[01:12] <corne> bash: samba: command not found
[01:12] <eagles0513875> hold up let me check something
[01:12] <pag> corne, try: sudo dpkg --congigure samba-common
[01:14] <corne> with dpkg --configure samba-common i get the error too
[01:14] <eagles0513875> corne: download just the samba pkg cuz it also u looked like u were missing that dependency
[01:14] <eagles0513875> in shell do sudo apt-get install samba
[01:15] <corne> i already try to install or even reinstall samba
[01:15] <corne> but that wont help
[01:16] <eagles0513875> corne there is a #samba channel i dunno what to tell u
[01:16] <corne> it give me the same errors
[01:17] <corne> i'll try it in #samba
[01:17] <corne> thanks for helping me
[01:18] <Icuc> Do you know how i set up grub in order to boot win XP raid 0 partition?
[01:19] <eagles0513875> what u mean u want that as ur primary partition Icuc
[01:28] <amnesiac> hai guys
[01:28] <corne> hi
[01:29] <amnesiac> does somebody knows how i burn my own distro
[01:29] <eeos> hi everybody
[01:29] <amnesiac> ?
[01:29] <eeos> what on earth is "Unsupported Updates from the Updates tab of Manage Repositories."
[01:29] <eeos> ?
[01:29] <amnesiac> i development my own kubuntu distro
[01:30] <eeos> there is nothing of that sort in my kubuntu 704
[01:30] <amnesiac> now i want to burn it on dvd
[01:31] <amnesiac> its something like update in beta version i think "eeos"
[01:32] <tdn> pag, sorry. I did not make myself clear. I do not want the *source files* for Amarok. I can just check them out from SVN. What I want it the sources for the /etc/apt/sources.list in Kubuntu, so that I can do an apt-get install amarok and get the newest version.
[01:32] <eeos> amnesiac: in what sense? do you have to have some adept package in beta version?
[01:33] <_4strO> tdn ?
[01:33] <amnesiac> yes ther are betas in adept version ? eeos
[01:34] <_4strO> amarok | 2:1.4.6-0ubuntu1~feisty1 | http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/main Packages
[01:35] <amnesiac> when you use the alien command you can make from any beta source file a debian adept install file i think
[01:39] <eeos> amnesiac: then it is not 704, but something else if the package manager is in BETA state
[01:39] <eeos> amnesiac: I have the full 704
[01:40] <eeos> amnesiac: and there is no unsupported updates tab of any kind in adept
[01:41] <amnesiac> i get your point eeos
[01:41] <amnesiac> and when you use the konsole
[01:41] <eeos> amnesiac: and I have installed *ALL* the adept packages :(
[01:41] <eeos> amnesiac: :)
[01:41] <amnesiac> and sudo apt-get update ????
[01:41] <amnesiac> hahahaha lol
[01:42] <amnesiac> you intalled all packages???
[01:42] <eeos> amnesiac: all the ADEPT packages!
[01:42] <amnesiac> you have one mean pc dude
[01:42] <amnesiac> hahahah
[01:43] <tdn> _4strO, 12:53 #kubuntu: < pag> tdn, apt-get source amarok   that should work :)
[01:43] <amnesiac> hai maria
[01:44] <amnesiac> so i dont either know about update pack... but wait now i get it ... hahahah
[01:45] <amnesiac> eeos ???
[01:45] <amnesiac> when you open adept ther is a little radio button
[01:45] <eeos> tor: only if you wat the source
[01:46] <eeos> amnesiac: I do not think it should be suggested to use something that does not exist, that is what I am trying to say
[01:47] <eeos> amnesiac: a radio button? where?
[01:47] <amnesiac> yes but in the program from adept to install programs there is a radiobutton that calls unsuported software
[01:47] <eeos> amnesiac: where?
[01:47] <_4strO> lol
[01:48] <eeos> amnesiac: I do not see any radio button, anywhere
[01:48] <_4strO> that's ,ormal for the unsupported sofware
[01:48] <amnesiac> open kdesu adept_installer
[01:48] <tdn> _4strO, the problem is that if I use the backports source, I also get a new version of some other software packages. I *only* want to use the new version of Amarok. Not all the other things. I want my system to stay stable. I do not want to upgrade vital libraries and such.
[01:48] <_4strO> it's for ex: the packages provides by cannonicale
[01:49] <eeos> amnesiac: and?
[01:49] <_4strO> tdn: then dl the sources on the amarok website and install them ...
[01:49] <eeos> amnesiac: I do not see any rodio button anywhere
[01:49] <_4strO> eeos: think hee is in the depository manager
[01:50] <amnesiac> there  is the button show unsupported
[01:50] <amnesiac> and proprietary software
[01:50] <eeos> amnesiac: I have no such button anywhere
[01:50] <Sanne> tdn: why don't you enable backports, install new amarok, and disable backports again?
[01:51] <amnesiac> weird
[01:51] <_4strO> amnesiac: what's weird ?
[01:52] <_4strO> ubuntu choose for you a list of package, but other packages could work but are not supposrted
[01:52] <_4strO> so ghe let you the choice ...
[01:52] <amnesiac> my third harddrive mounts itself and unmounts itself again
[01:52] <_4strO> what is weird ?
[01:52] <amnesiac> just like that
[01:52] <amnesiac> thats weird
[01:53] <_4strO> amnesiac: you change the conversation ?
[01:53] <Sanne> amnesiac: unsupported means not directly supported by canonical. Those packages are made by the community.
[01:53] <_4strO> or i understand anything ...
[01:53] <eeos> amnesiac: if I use adept_manager (that is, the adept package to manage update)
[01:53] <eeos> amnesiac: there is nothing like that
[01:54] <_4strO> eeos : adept / manage repository
[01:54] <eeos> amnesiac: if I use the adept_installer I have a tick box for the proprietary software, but not way to manage repositories or updates
[01:54] <amnesiac> ok sanne then i am wrong
[01:54] <eeos> _4strO: indeed
[01:54] <amnesiac> yes eeos that i thought it was the unsuported updates
[01:55] <Sanne> amnesiac: wrong with what (sorry, I have anly half an eye on this chat window...)?
[01:55] <eeos> _4strO: amnesiac: I do no think so.
[01:56] <eeos> _4strO: amnesiac: anyway! thanks very much for your help! I will solve it by downloading the packages directly,
[01:56] <amnesiac> np
[02:04] <enry> hi
[02:23] <julius_> anyone able to reccomend me an app that will transcode 12 or so avi's to Mpeg2 and have menus so i can use it on my dvd player?
[02:24] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[02:30] <rajkalyan> hello
[02:30] <rajkalyan> anyone home
[02:30] <rajkalyan> hello
[02:31] <BluesKaj> hi
[02:31] <rajkalyan> hi
[02:31] <TeraDyne> hi
[02:31] <rajkalyan> hi
[02:32] <rajkalyan> how do you change your color
[02:33] <ubunturos> rajkalyan: which color?
[02:33] <rajkalyan> for the font
[02:33] <rajkalyan> i dont want vlack
[02:33] <rajkalyan> black
[02:33] <Jucato> where?
[02:33] <rajkalyan> for the font
[02:33] <Jucato> yes but where? everything? in a certain app? where?
[02:34] <rajkalyan> no on here
[02:34] <rajkalyan> mine is black
[02:34] <rajkalyan> i want something elsae
[02:34] <Jucato> in Konversation (IRC/chat app)?
[02:34] <rajkalyan> else
[02:34] <ubunturos> ah, he means the IRC client he's using
[02:34] <rajkalyan> yes
[02:34] <Jucato> rajkalyan: Settings -> Configure Konveresation -> Colors
[02:35] <rajkalyan> sweet
[02:36] <rajkalyan> how do i change the <rajkalyan>
[02:36] <rajkalyan> color
[02:36] <rajkalyan> hello?
[02:37] <Jucato> hm?
[02:37] <rajkalyan> ill be back
[02:37] <ubunturos> rajkalyan: do a bit of reading.
[02:37] <rajkalyan> why
[02:37] <Jucato> rajkalyan: same location. look at the options
[02:37] <hilary> Hey everyone, is anyone having problems signing into MSN on Kopete or Gaim?
[02:37] <rajkalyan> okay it mnot gtttere
[02:37] <TeraDyne> rajkalyan: Under the colors tab, there should be a section called "colored Nicks. It's the "Own Nick Color" option.
[02:37] <zombielion> how can i remove installed windows programs on wine
[02:37] <rajkalyan> oh
[02:38] <rajkalyan> SUCCESS!
[02:38] <TeraDyne> hilary: Nope. No problem here.
[02:38] <rajkalyan> lateer
[02:39] <hilary> strange, when I try to connect to msn on kopete, it says "There was an error while connecting to the MSN server. Error Message: Operation is not supported
[02:39] <hilary> any ideas what thats about?
[02:40] <TeraDyne> hilary: what version of Kopete are you using? You can find out using Help > About Kopete
[02:40] <roy_> does anybody know how to watch tv with a pinnacle pctv sat ci?
[02:41] <hilary> it says I am using Kopete 0.12.4 (Using KDE 3.5.6) if that helps :)
[02:41] <Pyth> Hiya
[02:43] <Pyth> I can't seem to download packages >< 9Yes I tried seraching forums for an answer :P) Basically it says something about how chabges can't be applied
[02:43] <BluesKaj> roy, just hook up your sat video and audio feeds to your tv card and install tvtime
[02:45] <hilary> is no one else having problems with signing into MSN with Kopete then? :S
[02:45] <eagles0513875> hilary
[02:45] <BluesKaj> Pyth, what packages are you looking at?
[02:45] <eagles0513875> use pidgin instead
[02:45] <Lamington> Can someone help me
[02:45] <Lamington> I'm so frustrated
[02:45] <eagles0513875> just ask lam
[02:45] <eagles0513875> hilary pidgin is so much better than kopete
[02:46] <Pyth> I'm looking at a lot of them, mainly GNOME (I wanted to try it out)
[02:46] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: stop
[02:46] <hilary> ok thank you :) ill try it
[02:46] <Lamington> Im trying to get Feisty to work with my nvidia fx 5200
[02:46] <eagles0513875> hilary
[02:46] <eagles0513875> what Tm_T
[02:46] <Tm_T> hilary: what problem you exactly have?
[02:46] <BluesKaj> Pyth, have you tried adept ?
[02:46] <Pyth> running the --configure -a command tells me some file doesn't exist, if that heps
[02:46] <Pyth> I'm on adept
[02:47] <Lamington> I've been using kubuntu since breezy and Ive never had this kind of trouble getting kubuntu to work with my fx5200
[02:47] <hilary> Tm_t: Kopete just doesnt let me sign into MSN messenger, it says something cannot be supported? been happening for about 2 days now
[02:47] <BluesKaj> you don't need to run configure commands in adept
[02:47] <Tm_T> hilary: interesting, can you provide pic of that error?
[02:47] <Pyth> No but it was a solution to my earlier problem with something using the database
[02:47] <hilary> ill need to get the error up again =P I just closed it
[02:48] <Pyth> the solution to that problem showed me some fle was missing and llet me apply changes, but then it said packages were broken and stuff
[02:49] <BluesKaj> do you have synaptic installed , Pyth?
[02:49] <Pyth> No
[02:49] <Pyth> xD Is it better? Should I install it?
[02:49] <Lamington> Does anyone know
[02:50] <BluesKaj> Install synaptic , it will help you roll back to a stable state with it's 'fix brokenpkgs' option
[02:50] <eagles0513875> Lamington: u trying to instal glx
[02:50] <Lamington> yes
[02:50] <Lamington> nothing works
[02:50] <eagles0513875> go into the pkg manager and install the legacy driver search for nvidia
[02:50] <Lamington> tried
[02:50] <Pyth> Thank you xD Now how can I get it? Obvously Adept won't wok, is there another option?
[02:50] <eagles0513875> nothing
[02:50] <Lamington> nothing
[02:51] <Admiral_Chicago> nvidia-glx-legacy iirc
[02:51] <eagles0513875> this is in feisty
[02:51] <Admiral_Chicago> !info nvidia-glx
[02:51] <Lamington> feisty
[02:51] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1:1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-16.28 (feisty), package size 4386 kB, installed size 13352 kB
[02:51] <Admiral_Chicago> !info nvidia-glx-legacy
[02:51] <hilary> the errors just come up, just saying "There was an error while connecting to the MSN server. Error message: operation is not supported"
[02:51] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-legacy: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.7184+2.6.20.5-16.28 (feisty), package size 2992 kB, installed size 9780 kB
[02:51] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: they have to be careful which driver they install. their card must be supported by that driver
[02:51] <eagles0513875> Lamington: just download the binary in the repository
[02:51] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i know it.
[02:51] <Jucato> !info nvidia-legacy-new
[02:51] <ubotu> Package nvidia-legacy-new does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:51] <Jucato> stupid me!
[02:51] <Tm_T> hilary: anyway, I'm quite sure the problem is in MSN server side, as usual
[02:51] <Jucato> !info nvidia-glx-new
[02:52] <eagles0513875> Tm_T: i have no problems logging into it on pidgin
[02:52] <Jucato> legacy-new! lol an oxymoron..
[02:52] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: I have no problems in Kopete
[02:52] <hilary> so theres nothing I can do then :(
[02:52] <ubotu> nvidia-glx-new: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.9755+2.6.20.5-16.28 (feisty), package size 4719 kB, installed size 14400 kB
[02:52] <Admiral_Chicago> you'll want to read the pages where the driver is found. I have a GeForce 5200 Fx, it uses the glx driver iirc
[02:52] <Tm_T> hilary: well, there might be
[02:52] <eagles0513875> hilary: u could try pidgin to c if u get same msg but ull have to compile from source
[02:53] <Lamington> Admiral_Chicago: which one works with the 5200fx ?
[02:53] <hilary> I'm quite new to Linux =P so I'm not sure what compile from source means =(
[02:53] <eagles0513875> do u want to try pidgin
[02:53] <eagles0513875> !source
[02:53] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[02:54] <eagles0513875> !pidgin
[02:54] <hilary> I'll try anything lol
[02:54] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[02:54] <Admiral_Chicago> Lamington: iirc, the -glx one, i'd double check but that computer is broken ATM
[02:54] <Tm_T> uh oh
[02:54] <Lamington> nvidia-glx toasts my x.org
[02:54] <Meglo> What exactly happens when I set a partition to an "active" partition? Is it just a boot flag?
[02:54] <eagles0513875> hilary go to the #pidgin chanel
[02:54] <eagles0513875> they will help ya compile it fromthe source code
[02:55] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: you're irritating, you know
[02:55] <Lamington> have to boot recovery mode and restore old xorg.conf after enabling nvidia-glx
[02:55] <Jucato> Lamington: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[02:55] <eagles0513875> Tm_T: all im doing is helping someone who is willing to try just bout anything
[02:55] <TeraDyne> !compile | hilary
[02:55] <ubotu> hilary: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:55] <Jucato> Lamington: according to that, your card is supported by the 9755 driver, so that would be nvidia-glx-new
[02:55] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: yes, well, you push it
[02:56] <Lamington> Jucato: hmm ok
[02:56] <Lamington> Jucato: Im sure I tried it but I'll try again
[02:56] <Tm_T> hilary: when you get the error pic to me, we might try one setting that might help in this
[02:56] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: I know you mean good, but you're too agressive with your "worksforme"
[02:56] <daquino> why doesn't dmesg show any output when i plug in my usb mouse
[02:56] <daquino> why do i need to reboot for it to work
[02:56] <TeraDyne> eagles0513875: Tm_T has a point. Are you a Pidgin dev or something?
[02:57] <eagles0513875> no
[02:57] <zombielion> how do i uninstall a program that i installed using wine
[02:57] <eagles0513875> then from now on ill just keep my mouth shut
[02:57] <Tm_T> wheeee (:)
[02:58] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: please don't ;)
[02:58] <eagles0513875> lol
[02:58] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: but listen others too
[02:58] <TeraDyne> eagles0513875: maybe you should be working for their marking team
[02:58] <eagles0513875> lol
[02:58] <Tm_T> TeraDyne: stop
[02:58] <TeraDyne> marketing*
[02:58] <eagles0513875> hilary u still here
[02:59] <hilary> yep
[02:59] <eagles0513875> use pastbin.ca to paster ur error in there then just copy the link ovr here
[02:59] <Lamington> Do I need to edit my xorg at all after installing nvidia-glx-new ?
[02:59] <TeraDyne> Tm_T: I'm being truthful. I think that, with his enthusiasm, he'd probably be able to help them quite a bit
[02:59] <eagles0513875> lol
[02:59] <Tm_T> TeraDyne: true, but it slips to offtopic and/or insult in some cases (;
[03:00] <eagles0513875> !pastbing | hilary
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <eagles0513875> !pastbin | hilary
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <BluesKaj> hi Tm, I recently undid the cpu power saving daemon ( the cpu rate controller) in the false hope of making my pc run faster , but i don't see any difference
[03:00] <hilary> pastbin.ca?
[03:00] <eagles0513875> !pasetbin | hilary
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pasetbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <TeraDyne> Tm_T: Sorry
[03:00] <hilary> oohhhhhhhh paste bin, got it
[03:00] <eagles0513875> ya
[03:00] <eagles0513875> Tm_T:
[03:00] <TeraDyne> !pastebin
[03:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:00] <eagles0513875> she is goign to pastebin her error
[03:01] <Tm_T> yay
[03:01] <hilary> so I just type the error into paste bin, I give you the link and you nice nice people help me out? =) sounds like a plan
[03:01] <eagles0513875> hilary:
[03:01] <Tm_T> hilary: yup, sounds good
[03:01] <eagles0513875> more like just copy and paste
[03:01] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: har, you lean to enter
[03:01] <hilary> copy and paste even =)
[03:02] <Dakoki> Hi!
[03:02] <eagles0513875> Tm_T: sry bout being pushy i just broke up with my gf and im just really miserable and depressed and want to curl up in a corner and die lol
[03:02] <Tm_T> if Kopete can't connect in any way (those msn evils) then some other client might connect or not, it's roulette then
[03:02] <Dakoki> Im trying to install compiz-fusion
[03:02] <hilary> aaww =( (hugs eagles) =P
[03:02] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: no problems
[03:02] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:02] <Dakoki> i have some problems with ./compizfusion install
[03:02] <eagles0513875> Tm_T: that is y i brought her back in her to try the thing u had in mind to try
[03:03] <Dakoki> someone knows something?
[03:03] <Tm_T> heh
[03:03] <eagles0513875> !compiz-fusion
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:03] <TeraDyne> hilary, Tm_T, eagles0513875: I found one bug in the Kopete bug tracker, though it's for the previous version. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137443
[03:03] <Lamington> nothing
[03:03] <Lamington> opengl screensavers dont work
[03:03] <eagles0513875> if she hasnkelyt update which is probably the case she has the previous version of it most li
[03:03] <Tm_T> TeraDyne: I know that, doesn't matter
[03:04] <hilary> http://pastebin.ca/590222
[03:04] <Dakoki> !compiz-fusion
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <hilary> does that work?
[03:04] <eagles0513875> what if she hasnt updated she is probably running the one with the bug
[03:04] <eagles0513875> yes it does
[03:04] <eagles0513875> hillary do u have a shell open still
[03:04] <hilary> i do
[03:04] <BluesKaj> Tm_T,, in case you missed my question above : I recently undid the cpu power saving daemon ( the cpu rate controller) in the false hope of making my pc run faster , but i don't see any difference . How do i restore the cpu rate controller daemon ?
[03:04] <Tm_T> hilary: awww, that's bad
[03:04] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: no idea =)
[03:04] <eagles0513875> type this hilary sudo apt-get update
[03:04] <Lamington> If nvidia-glx-new is the correct choice for my fx5200 then do I have to edit my xorg.conf now ?
[03:04] <rajkalyan> hello
[03:05] <oslo> hi
[03:05] <BluesKaj> ok Tm_T :)
[03:05] <eagles0513875> and what version of kopete r u running
[03:05] <Lamington> cause i have no opengl
[03:05] <oslo> do u have an TI ACX 111 wifi chipset, & do u sucess to use WPA ??
[03:05] <Tm_T> hilary: yup, server buff, anyway, check msn account setting,s turn on http mode
[03:05] <hilary> ok hold on
[03:05] <hilary> OK i am using Kopete 0.12.4
[03:05] <hilary> and http mode... (Searches for it)
[03:05] <eagles0513875> ok that is interesting that seems to be the latest version
[03:06] <eagles0513875> like tm said check ur account details and password
[03:06] <hilary> HTTP mode is ticked
[03:06] <rajkalyan> who is on kubuntu
[03:06] <Jucato> Lamington: make sure "nvidia-glx-new" and "linux-restricted-modules-generic" are installed. then run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" (backup xorg.conf first), then restart/start X
[03:06] <eagles0513875> is this an at home machine or a machine at work
[03:06] <modjo> im on kubuntu
[03:06] <modjo> hi every body
[03:06] <Lamington> Jucato: ok
[03:06] <rajkalyan>  which one
[03:06] <hilary> home
[03:06] <eagles0513875> feisty
[03:06] <rajkalyan> edgy or feisty
[03:06] <eagles0513875> ok
[03:06] <rajkalyan> im on edgy
[03:06] <Tm_T> hilary: ok, ticked, reconnect?
[03:07] <hilary> reconnecting now =)
[03:07] <rajkalyan> lap or desk
[03:07] <hilary> nope
[03:07] <Tm_T> hilary: same?
[03:07] <hilary> I didnt even get the error that time
[03:07] <Tm_T> hum
[03:07] <eagles0513875> hilary type this
[03:08] <eagles0513875> sudo apt-get update and see if u have any packages that need updating cuz i have a feeling there probably r and one of those packages will fix the problem
[03:08] <rajkalyan> can some body help me
[03:08] <rajkalyan> i need help
[03:08] <eagles0513875> rajkalyan: laptop running feisty x86_64
[03:08] <eagles0513875> raj just ask away dude
[03:08] <rajkalyan> cool
[03:08] <rajkalyan> mine is a laptop
[03:08] <eagles0513875> same here dude
[03:08] <rajkalyan> intel pentium 2
[03:08] <Tm_T> hilary: one trick, raise server port by one
[03:08] <eagles0513875> nice
[03:08] <rajkalyan>  mobile version
[03:08] <Tm_T> hilary: and keep http mode
[03:08] <eagles0513875> wow thats ancient lol
[03:08] <Tm_T> mode/method
[03:09] <eagles0513875> whats ur problem rajkalyan
[03:09] <hilary> raise server port by 1? ok
[03:09] <rajkalyan> i retracted my taskbaar and i cant extend it
[03:09] <eagles0513875> what u mean retracted
[03:09] <rajkalyan> its in the side of my desktop
[03:09] <hilary> raised it by 1
[03:09] <rajkalyan> i retracted it
[03:09] <Tm_T> hilary: and reconnect
[03:09] <eagles0513875> u mean u made it hidden
[03:09] <rajkalyan> to the side
[03:09] <hilary> trying but doesnt look like there is any luck
[03:09] <rajkalyan> yeah
[03:09] <hilary> nope no luck
[03:10] <Tm_T> bah
[03:10] <eagles0513875> does it come out when u go near it like u can in windows
[03:10] <rajkalyan> the other bar hides the arrow
[03:10] <rajkalyan> no
[03:10] <rajkalyan> yes
[03:10] <rajkalyan> yes
[03:10] <eagles0513875> yes to what
[03:10] <eagles0513875> it comes out
[03:10] <Tm_T> hilary: evil, that problem might be gone tomorrow :p
[03:10] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:10] <rajkalyan> i fixed it thanks anyway
[03:10] <eagles0513875> no prob
[03:10] <rajkalyan> sorry for bothering you
[03:10] <hilary> awwwwww but tomorrows ages away =P
[03:10] <eagles0513875> no bother whats so ever
[03:10] <daquino> ubuntu sucks
[03:11] <daquino> i cant even plug in my dam usb mouse
[03:11] <Tm_T> hilary: ok, install gaim and try it (gaim is older version of pidgin and it's in repos so no need to compile)
[03:11] <eagles0513875> hilary in the mean time u coudl download the amsn pkg
[03:11] <rajkalyan> kubuntu rocks
[03:11] <eagles0513875> wait tm
[03:11] <rajkalyan> goddamnm usb
[03:11] <rajkalyan> godgodgod
[03:11] <rajkalyan> god
[03:11] <rajkalyan> go
[03:11] <rajkalyan> d
[03:11] <rajkalyan> ogodgod
[03:11] <rajkalyan> godogodfgodfg
[03:11] <rajkalyan> odf
[03:11] <rajkalyan> ogodfomg
[03:11] <hilary> Tm_T: I tried Gaim before, it didnt let me sign in
[03:11] <rajkalyan> inkow
[03:11] <Tm_T> hilary: aww
[03:11] <hilary> it just sorta froze and did the same as Kopete
[03:11] <daquino> dmesg doesn't even make a sound when i plug it in... whatever you guys did its on crack
[03:11] <eagles0513875> for me it used to crash
[03:11] <rajkalyan> i didnt let me either
[03:11] <modjo_> i have trouble opening adept installer, it says another process is using apt-get or aptitud
[03:11] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[03:12] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:12] <Tm_T> hilary: hrr, then, ah, only trick I can figure out IS to use some webclient
[03:12] <Tm_T> hilary: that means website
[03:12] <icecruncher> hey, how can I use a ethernet card on a laptop?
[03:12] <eagles0513875> Tm_T: there is another program that she can try if she is up for it
[03:12] <hilary> I've been using Ebuddy which is ok, but it just sucks that I cant use my own messenger :(
[03:12] <Tm_T> hilary: interesting
[03:12] <hilary> (worries) =P
[03:12] <eagles0513875> u only have an msn messenger account hilary
[03:13] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: don't tell me this starts with 'a'
[03:13] <eagles0513875> lol ya
[03:13] <rajkalyan> hey eagles you wanna go to my blog
[03:13] <eagles0513875> amsn lol
[03:13] <eagles0513875> what is it a blog of
[03:13] <rajkalyan> freewebs
[03:13] <hilary> I tried installing that too ages ago, can't remember what issue I had
[03:13] <rajkalyan> its got music at the homepage
[03:13] <eagles0513875> raj port it ovr here to www.x10hosting.com take a look at that
[03:13] <rajkalyan> why i like mine
[03:14] <rajkalyan> it gives me a website too
[03:14] <Lamington> Jucato: IT WORKED !
[03:14] <eagles0513875> lol look at the pkgs they r all free
[03:14] <eagles0513875> how much space
[03:14] <Lamington> :D
[03:14] <Jucato> :)
[03:14] <Lamington> HUZZAH !
[03:14] <rajkalyan> a lot
[03:14] <rajkalyan> idk how much
[03:14] <Jucato> Lamington: checked with "glxinfo | grep render"?
[03:14] <eagles0513875> try it again hilary it worked perfectly for me while i was trying to figure out how to compile piding
[03:14] <rajkalyan> unlimited i guess
[03:14] <Lamington> Jucato: i just tried an opengl screensaver
[03:14] <modjo_> !aptfix
[03:14] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:14] <Jucato> ok :)
[03:15] <eagles0513875> is that helping modjo_
[03:15] <icecruncher> anyboy?
[03:15] <modjo_> im trying it
[03:15] <Lamington> but I'll make a note of glxinfo | grep render
[03:15] <modjo_> wait
[03:15] <Tm_T> icecruncher: plug and play?
[03:15] <Arwen> how can I use sudo with output redirection?
[03:15] <icecruncher> Tm_T: network card
[03:15] <eagles0513875> Tm_T: if she only has an msn account and if it works y go through the hasell of compiling
[03:15] <rajkalyan> anyone wanna visit my blog
[03:15] <eagles0513875> hilary u there
[03:15] <Arwen> e.g. when I do sudo somecommand > /var/somefile, it says permission error
[03:15] <Arwen> anyone?
[03:16] <hilary> Indeed I am eagles
[03:16] <eagles0513875> ok u want to try amsn
[03:16] <Tm_T> icecruncher: yes, if it works ootb then thats it, if not, you need to find drivers to it
[03:16] <eagles0513875> actually before u do that
[03:16] <Lamington> Jucato: Now to install Tremulous :D
[03:16] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: true
[03:16] <hilary> I'm concerned with Tm_T's concern =P
[03:16] <Arwen> ...
[03:16] <eagles0513875> bout what amsn
[03:16] <Tm_T> hilary: no need to, personal
[03:16] <modjo_> afeter like 3 trys.... it did work eagles!
[03:16] <eagles0513875> hilary answer me this do u only have an msn account
[03:16] <Tm_T> just try amsn if it works you ;)
[03:16] <Jucato> Arwen: sudo only works on the somecommand. you still don't have access to /var/somefile
[03:16] <eagles0513875> ok modjo glad i could help
[03:16] <modjo_> that was tough
[03:17] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:17] <Arwen> Jucato, how do I work around that?
[03:17] <hilary> do you mean as opposed to having accounts with other messengers, eg, AIM, Yim etc?
[03:17] <eagles0513875> ya
[03:17] <modjo_> tnx all you guys here, make this a lot easier
[03:17] <modjo_> specially you eagles
[03:17] <hilary> I've got an AIm and YIm account
[03:17] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:17] <modjo_> take care and have a nice day :D
[03:17] <eagles0513875> ok then forget amsn
[03:17] <eagles0513875> u too
[03:17] <modjo_> c ya
[03:17] <hilary> why, what would of happened? out of interest =P
[03:17] <eagles0513875> im going ot have to help u compile pidgin from source
[03:17] <Lamington> Thankyou Jucato for your help, I've saved it in a textfile so I dont forget :)
[03:17] <Tm_T> hilary: just use amsn for msn
[03:17] <eagles0513875> amsn is only a msn messenger client
[03:18] <hilary> kk
[03:18] <Arwen> damn it, apt should have an easy way to get rid of stuff installed buy apt-get build-dep,,,
[03:18] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: he canuse Kopete for other protocols you know
[03:18] <eagles0513875> pidgin is like gaim but its the replacement for gaim
[03:18] <Jucato> Arwen: try this http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/05/17/using-tee-to-write-to-files-and-the-terminal/
[03:18] <rajkalyan> can you help me install audio/video pluging for firefox
[03:18] <eagles0513875> i know but if she is having trouble with that one u might as well port the others while ur at it
[03:18] <Tm_T> oh well
[03:18] <Tm_T> I believe he can login to msn using Kopete tomorrow or atleast next week
[03:19] <eagles0513875> !register | hilary
[03:19] <ubotu> hilary: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:19] <Arwen> rajkalyan, ...we could... but why?
[03:19] <eagles0513875> it seems though like she cant wait
[03:19] <Tm_T> it's not new thing that msn breaks
[03:19] <Arwen> media player plugins are stupid
[03:19] <hilary> I can wait
[03:19] <eagles0513875> oh
[03:19] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: so, he uses something temporary ;)
[03:19] <hilary> I'll wait =) I'm good
[03:19] <Tm_T> he/she/whatever
[03:19] <hilary> ill use a web one or something =)
[03:19] <Arwen> Jucato, thanks
[03:19] <hilary> thank you anyway eagles =D =)
[03:19] <Arwen> Jucato, so I do sudo comecommand | sudo tee somefile ?
[03:19] <eagles0513875> i got the impression u couldnt  earlier when u said its so far away
[03:19] <Tm_T> hilary: oki, poke me if it doesn't work friday or so
[03:19] <eagles0513875> same with me
[03:20] <hilary> haha =P
[03:20] <eagles0513875> unless u would rather hit me up on aim yim or msn lol
[03:20] <hilary> ok prepare for the poking of your life! =)
[03:20] <Jucato> Arwen: I think so. I don't really know. haven't tried it. that's from a post in Planet Ubuntu
[03:20] <eagles0513875> :)
[03:20] <eagles0513875> i will to hilary lol
[03:20] <eagles0513875> hilary its nice to finally see a lady in thsi channel
[03:20] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: there's many
[03:20] <eagles0513875> not many that like to play round wiht linux lol
[03:20] <hilary> lol
[03:20] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: so false ;)
[03:21] <eagles0513875> lol really but do alot of them help troubleshoot stuff like we do
[03:21] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:21] <Sanne> eagles0513875: well, there are some more of us here :)
[03:21] <eagles0513875> i dont seem to run into many
[03:21] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:21] <eagles0513875> :)
[03:21] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: there's no need to make noise about it
[03:21] <eagles0513875> no noise was intended
[03:21] <Tm_T> yup
[03:21] <eagles0513875> and im sorry if i offended lol
[03:21] <Tm_T> you didn't
[03:21] <Tm_T> but that doesn't make good either I afraid
[03:22] <eagles0513875> hilary have u tried the new yahoo web msngr which is in beta but i like so far
[03:22] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[03:22] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:22] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:22] <hilary> nope
[03:22] <eagles0513875> ty Tm_T
[03:22] <rajkalyan> how do i become a member
[03:22] <rajkalyan> rigister
[03:22] <Arwen> is someone here compiling pidgin? lol
[03:22] <eagles0513875> !register
[03:22] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:22] <rajkalyan> how
[03:22] <rajkalyan> 
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[03:22] <eagles0513875> i already did arwen
[03:22] <rajkalyan> 
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[03:22] <eagles0513875> i can link u on how to do it
[03:22] <rajkalyan> 
[03:22] <Arwen> ...
[03:22] <Arwen> !ops
[03:22] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
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[03:22] <eagles0513875> raj stop flodding
[03:23] <Tm_T> BAH!
[03:23] <Jucato> bah too slow.. :(
[03:23] <gnomefreak> :)
[03:23] <Hobbsee> got him :)
[03:23] <Arwen> speaking of delayed action..
[03:23] <eagles0513875> arwen u wanting to compile pidgin or something
[03:23] <Arwen> nope, I found a repository with pidgin in it
[03:23] <Arwen> not that I use it, but..
[03:23] <eagles0513875> really
[03:23] <Arwen> yes
[03:24] <eagles0513875> i know its not in the kubuntu repositories and they have it out for other distros but for kubuntu they havent made a pkg so i compiled it from source
[03:24] <Arwen> yeah, but there's third-party repositories with that kind of stuff
[03:25] <Arwen> hmm, I still have 2 local packages...
[03:25] <eagles0513875> dont u have to be careful that it wont break anything
[03:25] <Arwen> yes, I'm not going to try dist-upgrading to gusty
[03:26] <eagles0513875> what u mean is it even out for testing yet
[03:26] <Arwen> ...
[03:26] <Arwen> what I mean is that if you add third-party repositories, that usually breaks upgrades
[03:26] <Arwen> so when gusty is released in the *future*, I won't be dist-upgrading
[03:27] <eagles0513875> oh ok
[03:27] <eagles0513875> u just do clean install
[03:27] <Arwen> http://www.telemail.fi/mlind/ubuntu/ - this is the repository I got pidgin from btw
[03:27] <Arwen> and yeah, clean install ftw
[03:27] <eagles0513875> what i dont get is when something is ready to be released could they just release an updated pkg
[03:28] <Arwen> the reason that doesn't happen is because then we have to support both the old and the new version
[03:28] <eagles0513875> ahhhh ok
[03:29] <eagles0513875> Arwen: u a developer
[03:29] <Arwen> nope, I'm just reading answers from the FAQ
[03:29] <Tm_T> hah
[03:29] <Arwen> :-)
[03:29] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:29] <Tm_T> Arwen: what faq? so I can answer too some day (;
[03:30] <eagles0513875> i cant wait to take a c++ class in the fall
[03:30] <Arwen> !faq
[03:30] <ubotu> A list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[03:30] <Arwen> I think
[03:30] <Tm_T> aa oki
[03:32] <[sqrts] ben> hi guys, i'm trying to install Kubuntu 6.06-1 i386 on a core 2 duo CPU and i get an error message "Failed to allocate mem resource.." after the setup is booting the kernel
[03:32] <[sqrts] ben> any ideas?
[03:32] <icecruncher> can anyone tell how to get an accton ether net card running, type 2328
[03:33] <ardchoille> [sqrts] ben: Any particular reason you are installing 6.06 on that box rather than 7.04?
[03:33] <eagles0513875> sqrts isnt there also an i686 iso for download
[03:33] <eagles0513875> as well
[03:33] <[sqrts] ben> it worked fine before, that's the strange thing
[03:34] <Arwen> icecruncher, ..........
[03:34] <[sqrts] ben> ardchoille: but no, other than "it worked fine before" there is no reason not to install 7.04
[03:34] <ardchoille> [sqrts] ben: Ah, ok. Just wanted you to know that 6.06 was released a year ago and 7.04 is the latest.
[03:34] <ardchoille> [sqrts] ben: You might try 7.04 and see how it goes, it's likely the problem has been fixed.
[03:35] <[sqrts] ben> k, thx ... don't have a blank CD here so i  have to walk to my office.. stinks :P
[03:35] <eagles0513875> lol do u have a rw round [sqrts] ben
[03:36] <[sqrts] ben> at home, yes
[03:36] <[sqrts] ben> here, no :>
[03:36] <eagles0513875> u at the office lol
[03:36] <[sqrts] ben> more like the university
[03:37] <ardchoille> [sqrts] ben: Buy one of those cd wallets and carry kubuntu with you :) You can also carry a couple blank cd's/dvd's. I also carry a copy of SysRescCd
[03:38] <ardchoille> Or maybe a 1Gb USK key
[03:38] <[sqrts] ben> i don't walk around reinstalling OSes all the time :P
[03:38] <ardchoille> *USB
[03:38] <ardchoille> almost everyone I know carries a 1Gb USB key on their keychain
[03:39] <[sqrts] ben> well, i carry about 15 keys on my keychain...
[03:39] <ardchoille> Yikes!
[03:39] <ardchoille> I have 2
[03:39] <[sqrts] ben> well... there is 4 keys for home, cellar, mailbox...
[03:40] <[sqrts] ben> for starters ;)
[03:40] <ardchoille> hehe
[03:40] <[sqrts] ben> and then there are car keys, mobile, iPod...
[03:41] <[sqrts] ben> i guess i'll try 7.04 and will come back crying if that doesn't work either ;)
[03:41] <eagles0513875> i will work
[03:41] <eagles0513875> u have to have an optimistic outlook
[03:42] <[sqrts] ben> woohuu, it's gonna work
[03:42] <[sqrts] ben> :P
[03:42] <icecruncher> Arwen: anything? I can't even find the drivers
[03:42] <Arwen> what, you have an ethernet card that doesn't work? all ethernet cards should work "out of box"
[03:44] <eagles0513875> ice if ur on here then u have to have an internet connection
[03:44] <eagles0513875> unless ur on wireless
[03:52] <icecruncher> Arwen: I don't know if this will help... It seems pretty old  http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fascii24.com%2Fnews%2Fi%2Fhard%2Farticle%2F1999%2F12%2F07%2F605864-000.html&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8
[03:52] <Arwen> oh.... is that one of those fake net cards? like the USB ones?
[04:00] <icecruncher> Arwen: yeah
[04:01] <Arwen> those aren't supported and never will be
[04:01] <Arwen> go buy a real card
[04:02] <icecruncher> Arwen: haha
[04:02] <icecruncher> k
[04:03] <TeraDyne> anyone know of a way to convert .ogg files to .mp3?
[04:04] <Arwen> TeraDyne, yes, but why in the world would you do that?
[04:04] <Arwen> then your shitty music will sound even shittier
[04:04] <TeraDyne> Arwen: my iPod nano can't play ogg, sadly
[04:04] <Arwen> !rockbox
[04:04] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[04:04] <Arwen> use that
[04:05] <TeraDyne> Arwn: is there a chance rockbox will brick it?
[04:05] <oslo> like ipodlinux ... Nano 2nd gen is not supported)
[04:05] <Arwen> uh, yes
[04:05] <Arwen> just like flashing your router or updating your BIOS
[04:06] <TeraDyne> Arwen: no way then. I can't afford a new nano.
[04:06] <zipper> cant you just flash it back to default if it gets bricked?
[04:06] <Arwen> ^^ - yeah
[04:07] <TeraDyne> *sigh* well, then, I guess I'll try it.
[04:07] <zipper> good luck :)
[04:08] <Arwen> TeraDyne, if that doesn't work, you can always use lame + oggenc to convert em :-)
[04:08] <Arwen> although that will seriously degrade the quality
[04:08] <TeraDyne> zipper: thanks
[04:08] <TeraDyne> Arwen: Ok. It'll be a last resort option, then.
[04:17] <BluesKaj> it's the default nick
[04:18] <BluesKaj> ppl unfamiliar with irc get it by default
[04:18] <jussi01> I wish someone would set it up to take the name of the pc...
[04:19] <Jucato> athena: those are the default nicks on all Live CD's
[04:20] <Jucato> by default, IRC apps get the nick from the username, but since the live cd's username is "ubuntu"...
[04:21] <tdn> Sanne, because then I don't receive updates for Amarok afterwards.
[04:22] <athena> Jucato, then couldn't we set the LiveCD to generate random usernames?
[04:22] <athena> it's so confuzzling..
[04:23] <Jucato> athena: because of the way Live CD's are. you need to have premade users. and I don't see why this is confusing you... just ignore the ubuntu nicks
[04:23] <athena> Jucato, it confuses me because if I don't notice when 1 ubuntu leaves and another joins, then...
[04:24] <athena> ...
[04:24] <athena> basically, I can't figure out which ubuntu is which!
[04:28] <bkudria> i clicked "never for this site" in a password save dialog in konqueror.  how do i remove that site from the ignore list - I *do* want to save the password.  any ideas?
[04:28] <athena> oh yeah, quick question - does, say, a spanish version of Ubuntu have different names for commands than then english one?
[04:29] <Jucato> athena: command line commands? or the text in the menus?
[04:29] <athena> command line commands
[04:30] <Jucato> athena: they're all the same
[04:30] <athena> hmm.... ah well, lol
[04:30] <athena> doesn
[04:30] <Jucato> (they're not really "English" anyway)
[04:30] <athena> true that
[04:30] <Jucato> they can't be translated either
[04:43] <icecruncher> how can i get a list of all the dependacies of a package?
[04:43] <Jucato> apt-cache show <package>
[04:44] <Jucato> or in Adept, click on the Details button
[04:44] <icecruncher> Jucato: thnks
[04:44] <jussi01> lol
[04:45] <icecruncher> Jucato: how can I tell if the linux kernel source tree is installed?
[04:46] <Jucato> search for linux-source- I think
[04:46] <icecruncher> Jucato: ?
[04:47] <Jucato> there's a different source package for different kernel versions. of course you need the one that matches the kernel you are using
[04:47] <Jucato> the package name usually begins with linux-source-
[04:47] <BluesKaj> what's the comnd orcmnds to restore the cpu frq scaling daemon ..or is there a module file i can edit ?
[04:47] <icecruncher> Jucato: ah so i need to fin out what kernel I'm using then install the source?
[04:47] <Jucato> icecruncher: "uname -r" gives you the kernel version
[04:48] <icecruncher> Jucato: k
[04:48] <icecruncher> 2.6.20-15-generic
[04:48] <icecruncher> so how do i install the source?
[04:50] <underdog5004> icecruncher, cd into the directory where the source is, type in ./configure, if there are no errors, then type in sudo make && sudo make install
[04:50] <underdog5004> icecruncher, make sure you've installed build-essential.
[04:50] <athena> or rather, don't use make install since that'll trash your system
[04:50] <athena> "checkinstall" or "dpkg-buildpackage" instead
[04:50] <underdog5004> athena, what's the problem with make install?
[04:51] <icecruncher> underdog5004: yeah, I'm asking how to get the kernel source. is it in /usr/source?
[04:51] <athena> underdog5004, it places files all over that become untrackable and conflict with the package manager
[04:51] <underdog5004> icecruncher, oh...idk. sorry
[04:51] <athena> is someone building their own kernel?
[04:51] <underdog5004> athena, oh. that's not good
[04:51] <underdog5004> sorry
[04:51] <icecruncher> athena: yeah cause I need to build in an envir for a driver
[04:51] <athena> yeah, checkinstall is better, but it's still a hack
[04:52] <Jucato> underdog5004: he's asking about installing the kernel source code
[04:52] <athena> icecruncher, why do you need to compile your own kernel if you just want a driver?
[04:52] <athena> also, you don't need the kernel source either, just the headers
[04:52] <icecruncher> athena: just following the instructions
[04:52] <underdog5004> Jucato, oh...it's been awhile for me...I'm going to bow out now
[04:52] <athena> also, the kernel doesn't use ./configure
[04:52] <athena> icecruncher, what instructions? link?
[04:52] <underdog5004> aaaaaaahh!!! I can't be right! not even a little bit!!!
[04:52] <Jucato> icecruncher: sudo apt-get install linux-source-whatever
[04:52] <athena> ^^
[04:52] <underdog5004> *sigh*
[04:52] <Jucato> icecruncher: try searching the correct name. I forgot
[04:52] <athena> but if you just need a module, apt-get install linux-headers-whatever is better
[04:52] <eth01> is there anyway I can create a vm template, using kubuntu for openvz?
[04:53] <icecruncher> athena, sorry, I'm making an enveir by compiling a part of the kernel, not all of it
[04:54] <athena> icecruncher, ok, go for it
[04:54] <athena> it's linux-source-whatever that you need
[04:54] <icecruncher> athena, so get headers? why
[04:54] <athena> headers are used to build kernel modules. If you really need to compile part of the kernel, they won't be enough, so forget em
[04:54] <icecruncher> k
[04:56] <icecruncher> athena: about instructions.. gotta get them from the laptop, the place of "contruction", get them in a sec
[04:59] <inayet> was up
[04:59] <Tm_T> is down
[04:59] <inayet> Kabul
[04:59] <inayet> was it up or down?
[05:00] <Tm_T> yours is no disgrace
[05:00] <inayet> Got to exercise. take care disgrace
[05:00] <Tm_T> haha
[05:04] <manchicken> Okay, so my wife updated the kernel and the nvidia module is borking now.  Anybody know how to reinstall the nvidia modules?
[05:05] <Tm_T> manchicken: hum, how is drivers installed?
[05:05] <Tm_T> manchicken: and what exactly is the problem?
[05:06] <icecruncher> Jucato: cant find the source
[05:06] <Dusk_> i can't copy a file to a ntfs volume it says read-only..how can i copy a file to another volume??
[05:06] <Jucato> !info linux-source-generic
[05:06] <ubotu> Package linux-source-generic does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:06] <Jucato> hm...
[05:06] <manchicken> Tm_T: It's from apt
[05:06] <athena> !linux-source-2.6.20-16.29
[05:06] <Tm_T> manchicken: ok, and error is?
[05:06] <Jucato> icecruncher: sorry I kinda forgot the correct package name
[05:06] <manchicken> Tm_T: Trying to modprobe, modprobe reports a very generic error.
[05:06] <athena> !info linux-source-2.6.20-16
[05:06] <ubotu> Package linux-source-2.6.20-16 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:06] <athena> ...
[05:07] <icecruncher> !info linux-source-2.6.20-15
[05:07] <Dusk_> !ntfs
[05:07] <ubotu> Package linux-source-2.6.20-15 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:07] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:07] <athena> !linux-source-2.6.20
[05:07] <GrahamA> !teamspeak
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about teamspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <Tm_T> manchicken: hum, what error X gives to logs? grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:07] <athena> !info linux-source-2.6.20
[05:07] <Dusk_> !ntfs-3g
[05:07] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.20: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.20 with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.20-16.29 (feisty), package size 46690 kB, installed size 46824 kB
[05:07] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:07] <athena> finally
[05:07] <manchicken> Tm_T: No displays.
[05:07] <manchicken> Tm_T: Because the module won't load.
[05:08] <Tm_T> manchicken: aha
[05:08] <Tm_T> interesting
[05:08] <Jucato> athena: next time let's try not to flood the channel with bot searches? :)
[05:08] <athena> bah :-)
[05:08] <manchicken> I'm gonna try dpkg -P and then -i again.
[05:08] <psicobra> woohoo
[05:08] <Tm_T> manchicken: reinstall linux-restricted-modules-generic ?
[05:09] <Tm_T> manchicken: and nvidia-glx ofcourse
[05:10] <BluesKaj> psicobra, err how would you know ?  :)
[05:10] <manchicken> Yeah, the error is that it failed to load the nvidia kernel module.
[05:10] <psicobra> BluesKaj: well most comon printers epson canon hp etc
[05:11] <icecruncher> !info kernel-source-2.6.20-15
[05:11] <ubotu> Package kernel-source-2.6.20-15 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:12] <icecruncher> !info kernel-source-2.6.20-15-generic
[05:12] <ubotu> Package kernel-source-2.6.20-15-generic does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:12] <icecruncher> suck
[05:12] <Tm_T> !botabuse
[05:12] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:12] <manchicken> That's scary... apt-get wants to remove linux-generic when you remove the restricted modules package...
[05:12] <Tm_T> manchicken: you mean that meta package?
[05:13] <icecruncher> Tm_T; sorry, you have any ide how to install the kernel source?
[05:13] <Tm_T> icecruncher: yes, install it
[05:13] <manchicken> Tm_T: Yeah.  Scary none-the-less :)
[05:13] <Dusk_> !ntfs-3g
[05:13] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:13] <icecruncher> Tm_T: install the source how?
[05:13] <Tm_T> icecruncher: apt-cache search source | grep linux
[05:13] <manchicken> Still won't probe nvidia.
[05:13] <Tm_T> icecruncher: then install package you like using package manager
[05:14] <Tm_T> manchicken: interesting
[05:14] <manchicken> I'm gonna give it a reboot.
[05:14] <manchicken> Lots of kernel changes, it may help.
[05:14] <manchicken> Back in a bit.
[05:14] <Tm_T> manchicken: yu
[05:14] <wsjunior> what do i need to do to make Apollon to connect to fasttrack net?!
[05:15] <icecruncher> Tm_T: thnks
[05:15] <wsjunior> it just stay connecting and never connected to any server
[05:16] <manchicken_> Okay, I'll do this from my terminal.
[05:16] <manchicken_> I don't know what the hell is going on there.
[05:17] <Tm_T> manchicken_: I heard that often when talking 'bout wifes
[05:17] <manchicken_> I can use the X interfaces via forwarding.
[05:17] <manchicken_> Nice.
[05:17] <manchicken_> No, my wife just installed these updates, and now everything just borked.
[05:17] <Tm_T> yeah, just joking (;
[05:18] <manchicken_> What do I need to load the nvidia kernel driver?  Do I just need linux restricted?
[05:18] <Tm_T> and nvidia-glx I think, though not sure
[05:18] <Tm_T> I need to buy some food so see later ->
[05:18] <manchicken_> did we just move some cards to nvidia-legacy?
[05:19] <shane2peru> ok guys a quick and easy question
[05:20] <shane2peru> in Gnome, I had a nice little thing that would tell me how much battery life was left on my wireless mouse.  Is there anything like this in KDE?
[05:21] <Fable> hello. i would like to install azureus 3 on my kubuntu partition but when i used adept, it downloaded and installed azureus 2.5...can someone help me install the newer version please
[05:21] <shane2peru> is anyone here today?
[05:21] <shane2peru> :)
[05:22] <athena> Fable, pl
[05:22] <athena> ok*
[05:22] <BluesKaj> shane2peru, the same app will work in kde
[05:22] <athena> Fable, this is fairly straightforward, but can you go over to #anon32 for step-by-step?
[05:22] <manchicken_> Woah woah woah!  How did this machine end up on the low-latency kernel?
[05:22] <shane2peru> BluesKaj: well, the problem, is that I'm not sure what app it was, it was an a little icon down by my clock.
[05:23] <Fable> well iam really good at openSUSe but kubuntu screwed me over
[05:23] <Fable> i dont know anything
[05:23] <BluesKaj> have you uninstalled gnome , shane2peru ?
[05:23] <athena> Fable, hehe. Basically, the answer is that Azureus 3 isn't in the repository, you have to install it manually
[05:23] <manchicken_> Fable: It's really not that different.
[05:24] <athena> and yeah, it's not that different
[05:24] <shane2peru> BluesKaj: Yes, I removed it completely and installed Kubuntu. :)
[05:24] <Fable> thanks
[05:24] <BluesKaj> shane2peru, you can install it thru adept , if you know the name of the app
[05:24] <BluesKaj> or synaptic
[05:24] <shane2peru> athena: manchicken_ I disagree, I just installed Suse 10.2, and it is a bit different
[05:25] <manchicken_> shane2peru: I didn't say that it's identical, I merely said that it's not that different.
[05:25] <shane2peru> BluesKaj: don't know the app name, does anyone know of anything similar?
[05:25] <athena> well, all linuxes are different..
[05:25] <manchicken_> Not enough to state that you were really good at one and now know nothing about another :)
[05:25] <shane2peru> manchicken_: I have tried a few times to try other distro's and wow, it is really different once you get used to one.
[05:26] <manchicken_> shane2peru: Not that different.
[05:26] <shane2peru> manchicken_: the installation procedures are all different, and adding repos are different
[05:26] <shane2peru> at least between Suse and Kubuntu.
[05:27] <shane2peru> manchicken_: I tried to add some repos in suse, took me about 2 hours!  I can do that in *buntu in about 5 minutes
[05:27] <shane2peru> :)
[05:27] <manchicken_> shane2peru: That's because SuSE's repos are scattered.
[05:27] <bbeck_> Hello, I was wondering how to get a list of local wireless networks that I can log on to from KNetworkManager?
[05:27] <dr_willis> 5 min? egads..
[05:29] <shane2peru> manchicken_: yeah, plus I don't really know what repos to add, and their installation system (yast) is slooooooow.  I think there is a cli, but I don't know how to use it. :)
[05:29] <shane2peru> manchicken_: it isn't no apt-get that is for sure.
[05:29] <wsjunior> is anybody here using apollon?
[05:31] <manchicken_> shane2peru: And they retardedly put all of the latest and unstable packages in their repos to automatically update without user interaction and crash computers of users who don't know any better.
[05:31] <manchicken_> shane2peru: On SuSE 10.1 ZMD automatically update my ALSA setup and I lost soud.
[05:31] <manchicken_> athena: Probably not.
[05:31] <shane2peru> manchicken_: is that spoken by experience?
[05:31] <manchicken_> Although I just removed linux-image-lowlatency :)
[05:31] <manchicken_> shane2peru: Far too much fscking experience.
[05:32] <manchicken_> (literally)
[05:32] <shane2peru> manchicken_: yeah, I don't know that much about it, I cut my teeth on suse for a bit way back in the 9.2 days, but have used *buntu ever since
[05:33] <shane2peru> I found a whole lot of community support on *buntu
[05:33] <manchicken_> Okay, so linux-image-lowlatency isn't compatible with the nvidia kernel modules.
[05:33] <crocodile> Is it possible to add an 'open' button to amarok mini player?
[05:33] <manchicken_> At least that's what it looks like.
[05:34] <manchicken_> crocodile: Submit a wishlist item on launchpad.net :)
[05:34] <Sanne> manchicken_: tried linux-restricted-modules-lowlatency?
[05:35] <crocodile> manchicken_ -  I just learned the mini player is gone in the latest amarok so my request would never get filled
[05:35] <shane2peru> ok, quick question, I just installed Suse 10.2 on a spare partition, and all went well, now, when I boot into Kubuntu, it gives me some problem of fsck on a partition cannot be checked, and then dumps me to cli, of which I exit and it continues booting.  Any ideas?
[05:35] <dr_willis> shane2peru,  check your fstab - could be your partitiosn got moved,  or removed/renamed.
[05:35] <dr_willis> and its trying to mount one that dosent exist anjy more
[05:36] <shane2peru> dr_willis: ohh, yeah, I think I had that spare partition mounted via fstab, thanks, I'll check that out.
[05:37] <dr_willis> if you were mounting it based on UUID not /dev/### name - that wouldent of happened. :) i think
[05:38] <shane2peru> dr_willis: well, actually it was mounted via uuid, I just commented out that partition, I guess I didn't add it, I don't really need to access that partition, I can manually mount it if necessary.
[05:38] <shane2peru> dr_willis: ok, let me reboot and see if that fixes the problem.
[05:40] <randacs_> anyone here have problem with automatix?
[05:40] <randacs_> problems*
[05:40] <joaomario> very happy with asus new driver. it seem's to work well in kubuntu 7.04 for Quadro FX 1500
[05:40] <BluesKaj> !automatix2
[05:40] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:41] <randacs_> yeah I read that, but some other mates of mine said it works well for them so was just wondering :)
[05:41] <athena> we don't support automatix here. it's a crappy half-assed script that does nothing apt-get can't
[05:42] <shane2peru> dr_willis: well uuid loses that round, it was mounted via uuid, and that was the problem, I love Kubuntu boot speed.
[05:42] <BluesKaj> randacs , maybe you should consult with this room first before listening to your mates , the next time
[05:42] <shane2peru> dr_willis: thanks for the help
[05:43] <randacs_> BluesKaj: that's why I asked
[05:43] <dr_willis> shane2peru,  then your UUID some how changed.
[05:43] <randacs_> Im not too keen on 3de party managers anyways
[05:44] <joaomario> I was wondering, why the monitor does not work in 64-bit. The driver asked if I wanted to install 32-bit libraries and I had to, to get beryl working properly.
[05:45] <BluesKaj> randacs_, i tried it about a yr ago before I knew better...I found out in a hurry  ...spent the next week trying to rid my pc of broken pkges and fixing one sthat were damaged
[05:45] <randacs_> on another note, this is the first time I installed Kubuntu and I must say it's a very cool install
[05:45] <shane2peru> dr_willis: ok, here are the facts, I had Kubuntu on that spare partition then installed Kubuntu as my main distro, and forgot about the spare partition
[05:46] <shane2peru> dr_willis: I then installed Suse and had problems.
[05:46] <dr_willis> You will get that with SUSE. :)
[05:47] <shane2peru> dr_willis: yeah, I figured it didn't play nice with Kubuntu's uuid system.
[05:48] <BluesKaj> randacs_,yes kubuntu very "satisfying" ...especially after trying vista :)
[05:48] <shane2peru> dr_willis: I think it would have survived if mounted via the /dev/sda - because I didn't change any partitions, is that in theory correct?
[05:48] <shane2peru> also filesystem remained the same ext3
[05:49] <randacs_> yeah it seems nice, I'm a old school BSD user, never really liked linux, always gave me some problems, but this distro seems very cool indeed
[05:52] <joaomario> hello again
[05:53] <joaomario> anybody from brasil?
[05:53] <k3y> kubuntu is very nice  :)
[05:53] <athena> you mean brazil? and nope, not me
[05:53] <joaomario> yes
[05:54] <joaomario> in fact, in portuguese brasil is written with 'S'. But, as we are speaking in english i guess you're correct.
[05:55] <joaomario> I'm at Sao Paulo - Brazil, where are you locate athena?
[05:55] <athena> Michigan, USA, lol
[05:55] <shane2peru> anyone know what the command is to start the visor thing for the 2.6 kernel?  I had to do this in Ubuntu too, but don't remember the command.
[05:56] <joaomario> that's great. I've been to Boston, and Newport, I guess that's close to your state, isn't it?
[05:57] <jussi01> !offtopic
[05:57] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:05] <daquino> which signal is the equivalant of ^z?
[06:05] <joaomario> stop
[06:06] <daquino> SIGSTOP ?
[06:06] <daquino> so then how do i start it again ?
[06:06] <joaomario> yes...
[06:06] <daquino> yes what ?
[06:07] <joaomario> it's SIGSTOP.
[06:07] <daquino> and starting it back up ?
[06:08] <daquino> so if i stop a process will all children freeze too ?
[06:09] <joaomario> 18 to re-start
[06:10] <joaomario> 'kill -l' will list all the signals for you. But you should use this command to send signal 18 for the process which has stopped.
[06:18] <athena> !terminal > Fable
[06:18] <mcmurdo> how to use it
[06:19] <dr_willis> 0_o
[06:20] <mcmurdo> it's my fist time 2 use it
[06:20] <dr_willis> use what?
[06:20] <mcmurdo> this chatting tool
[06:20] <dr_willis> You mean your IRC client?
[06:21] <mcmurdo> yeap
[06:21] <dr_willis> try the HELP docs in the menus?
[06:21] <dr_willis> You seem to be using it just fine so far.
[06:21] <dr_willis> !irc
[06:21] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[06:21] <mcmurdo> thks
[06:22] <mcmurdo> r u a robot?
[06:22] <dr_willis> F1 = Help - :)
[06:22] <dr_willis> No but ubotu  is.
[06:22] <mcmurdo> and where r u?
[06:22] <daquino> why do the adept tools have to lock the database if they are only downloading or browsing the repos ?
[06:22] <dr_willis> I live in Indiana.
[06:22] <daquino> its pretty dam annoying
[06:23] <dr_willis> daquino,  when in doubt its best to play it VERY safe with package management.
[06:23] <mcmurdo> we r neighbour
[06:23] <daquino> dr_willis:  yea but adept_installer is downloading and i just want to install a quick package wtf
[06:24] <dr_willis> adept_installer is just a front end to the other tool you are using.. Now i could see how it would be nice if the downloads could get spawned to the Background. so you could que up other tasks...
[06:24] <mcmurdo> i think indian 's vry hot ,maybe you can kill the thread
[06:24] <dr_willis> but ive not seen any of the apt tools do that.
[06:24] <dr_willis> Indiana is NOT india.
[06:24] <dr_willis> opposite sides of the world.
[06:25] <mcmurdo> which state?
[06:25] <dr_willis> Indiana  - :)  is the state.
[06:25] <dr_willis> Indianaiaian
[06:26] <dr_willis> heck i cant even spell it right now.
[06:26] <dr_willis> indiana
[06:26] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, you assume everyone worldwide knows american geography :)
[06:27] <mcmurdo> a state of usa?
[06:27] <icecruncher> how can I get an older version of the kernel source with the ubuntu patches?
[06:27] <daquino> dr_willis:  you seem to be informed... i have asked many times about an issue that if my usb mouse is not plugged in at boot messages dont even show up in dmesg when i plug it in... its very strange... in any linux dmesg should detect the device being attached to the usb and it should just work since xorg.conf is allready setup for usb mice
[06:28] <BluesKaj> i also think there's a 'puton' going on here
[06:28] <mcmurdo> "sudo fdisk -l" is ok
[06:29] <mcmurdo> then mount
[06:29] <daquino> dr_willis:  can i at least save my choices in adept_installer so that i could quit it and then run apt-get then rerun adept_installer so it takes back off wehre i left it ?
[06:31] <dr_willis> daquino,  i recall some 'create an install script' feature in synaptic. Not sure if adept has a similer feature
[06:32] <dr_willis> daquino,  ive seen some odd usb device/motherboard issues where the kernel dont see the usb things properly unless its plugged in at boot. Not experienced it personally however.
[06:33] <dr_willis> dan,  you are correct however. Plygging in the mouse after boot should show some dmesg info msgs. and it should work
[06:33] <dr_willis> it does work for my laptop that way.
[06:33] <dr_willis> oops  daquino  not dan. :)
[06:33] <daquino> funny i was wondering how you knew my name
[06:34] <daquino> and someone told me that device drivers and hardware detection is completely done in the initrd ?
[06:34] <daquino> if so thats retarded and probably the reason its not more dynamic at run time
[06:35] <dr_willis> Hmm.. initrd loads up some subset i thouhght, then handed it off to the full kernel.
[06:35] <dr_willis> You can have a system without an initrd
[06:35] <dr_willis> I think you only got 'part' of the info on how initrd works/what its doing.
[06:36] <dr_willis> Ive not researched initrd much myself however. but i THOUGHT it mainly was to load raid/ide/sata/other 'has to be loaded befor system can boot' type drivers
[06:36] <dr_willis> usb/mouse drivers i dont think fall under that catagory.
[06:37] <dr_willis> Linux initrd allows the Linux kernel to stage boots: first a minimal kernel, then the initrd image, and finally the real file system.
[06:37] <dr_willis> http://sial.org/howto/linux/initrd/
[06:38] <athena> initrd is a ramedisk with a pre-loaded kernel image...
[06:38] <athena> as dr_willis said, it's to preload certain drivers
[06:38] <athena> (not necessary if you statically link them)
[06:39] <dr_willis> from what i just read. the initrd dosent even have to be using the same kernel as your system is running. Some how it can 'change over ' to the new kernel? wonder how it does that.
[06:39] <alvyn> Hi, please, does kubuntu some firewall? And where are the settings for it? Thx
[06:39] <dr_willis> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-linux-initrd-initial-ram-disk.html
[06:39] <athena> dr_willis, it doesn't. But an initrd is built every time the kernel is, so it just gets packaged with it
[06:39] <dr_willis> alvyn,  its  has that feature.. but its basicially disabled by default.
[06:40] <dr_willis> athena,  ahh... that explains those messages ive seen then
[06:40] <dr_willis> !firewall
[06:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:40] <dr_willis> http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-initrd.html
[06:40] <alvyn> dr_willis, ubotu: Thanks
[06:41] <dr_willis> Gotta love IBM and their docs :)
[06:41] <fritz_> i installed windows and then used super grub cd to fix grub...but now i can't get it to see windows...and i need win for some apps..can any1 help?
[06:42] <jhutchins_lt> Building a custom initrd is a good idea if you either have unusual hardware that actually needs it, or if you want to tune your boot process.
[06:42] <BluesKaj> does anyone other than IT admin guys actually use iptables ?
[06:42] <dr_willis> fritz_,  you mean to say your GRUB menu has no entry for windows?
[06:42] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: I have a couple of good howtos on networking that include scripts that use it directly.
[06:42] <fritz_> yes
[06:43] <mado> oy guys ... hello ...
[06:43] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: If you know enough not to just accept somebody else's default preconfiguration, you use iptables, or you use a script that makes them a little easier to manage.
[06:43] <fritz_> dr_willis it only sees the ubuntu os
[06:43] <dr_willis> fritz_,  the default grub menu.lst has a example 'paragraph' for booting windows off   of /dev/hda1 - i alwyas just uncomment it - that puts a windows menu item at the top of grub.
[06:43] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: shorewall's a handy utility, but it's way overkill for the ordinary home/small office fiewall.
[06:43] <BluesKaj> fritz_, use supergrub to fix the mbr on windows , then fix grub bootloader for linux
[06:43] <dr_willis> fritz_,  'seeing' it is notthe same as 'not configured for it' :)
[06:44] <dr_willis> Grub is one of those top 10 things - worth learning about. :) about #3 on my list. heh
[06:44] <fritz_> well...i don't know...when i hit escape to load the grub menu, the only thing that comes up are three ubuntu thingyes
[06:44] <fritz_> i just want the win os 2 show up there please^.^
[06:45] <dr_willis> fritz_,  yes.. and to do so you MUST have an entry for windows in the grub configs..
[06:45] <dr_willis> which is why i mentioned the EXAMPLES in the grub menu.lst config file
[06:45] <BluesKaj> yeah jhutchins_lt , I just let the router manage the FW ..altho i do some port mapping for various apps
[06:45] <dr_willis> Not sure of a way/tool in ubuntu to rescan and add the entry automaticially after install.
[06:46] <dr_willis> I always just edit the menu.lst manually and add the thing.
[06:46] <fritz_> .....how do i do that?
[06:46] <joaomario> i personally like nmap to scan the network.
[06:46] <jriachi> dr_willis: may i ask you about your 10-things list?
[06:46] <dr_willis> edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file  look under - the line -----------> # examples
[06:47] <dr_willis> jriachi,  :) been working on that list for years.. and needing to get a good set or urls for it.
[06:47] <dr_willis> jriachi,  one of my always working on projects..
[06:47] <dr_willis> top 10 things for a wanting-to-be-linux-profficient person to learn about.
[06:47] <fritz_> don't you know how to do that using super grub....cause it seems to be able to...
[06:47] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, fritz_ has to restore his windows mbr first
[06:48] <dr_willis> fritz_,  you can boot to the kubuntu system?
[06:48] <fritz_> well...if i restore the mbr...it autmaticly starts windows...if i fix the grub,,,i only get linux :-/
[06:48] <fritz_> yes
[06:48] <fritz_> i'm in it now
[06:48] <fritz_> ^.^
[06:48] <dr_willis> fritz_,  correct.. You NEED to edit the menu.lst to have an entry for windows.
[06:48] <jriachi> dr_willis: let me guess: bash, lvm, acl, grub, iptables , /etc/init.d/* , ,,,, ?
[06:48] <BluesKaj> supergrub has the direct boot into linux option
[06:48] <dr_willis> grub reads the menu.lst and thats where it gets the menu from
[06:48] <dr_willis> jriachi,  actually i never use lvm, or acl, :)
[06:49] <dr_willis> jriachi,  i was thinking, bash, grub, samba,
[06:49] <jriachi> dr_willis: neither do i, but they sound so interesting...
[06:49] <dr_willis> then it gets  less imporntant.
[06:49] <dr_willis> Tweaking the list based on what gets asked in here. :)
[06:49] <jriachi> dr_willis: maybe nfs?
[06:49] <fritz_> well i just want to be able to boot at choice both os....so....a complete set of advices would be welcome
[06:49] <fritz_> :)
[06:49] <dr_willis> bash, vi, grub,
[06:49] <joaomario> dr_willis, how can I create an entry for grub to star at runlevel 3?  I would like text mode with network.
[06:50] <dr_willis> fritz_,  edit that menu.lst UNCOMMENT the 4 lines under #examples that shows a example boot entry for windows.. and reboot.. see if that works
[06:50] <dr_willis> #1 - "Thinking for yourself" , #2 bash, #3 vi, grub,
[06:50] <fritz_> BluesKaj?
[06:50] <jhutchins_lt> joaomario: All runlevels are equal in ubuntu.
[06:50] <dr_willis> joaomario,  runlevel 3 Hmm...
[06:51] <jhutchins_lt> joaomario: (except 0 and 6 of course).
[06:51] <dr_willis> yea. i was thinking  that ubuntu sort of broke away from the runlevel stuff in that way
[06:51] <BluesKaj> yes fritz , once you restore the windows mbr , then restore grub for linux and then edit grub  menu.lst
[06:51] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: Does fdisk /mbr work for the gnu fdisk?
[06:51] <dr_willis> gnu's fdisk is vastly different form the old Dos/windows fdisk
[06:52] <joaomario> I used to deal with a RedHat system. So, Ubuntu, doesn't deal with runlevels....
[06:52] <dr_willis> Thank goodness.. its actually useable. :)
[06:52] <jhutchins_lt> Hence the question.
[06:52] <dr_willis> gnu's fdisk dosent even mess with the mbr as far as i can recall.
[06:52] <dr_willis> other then to change the partition info.
[06:52] <BluesKaj> jhutchins_lt, dunno, been using supergrubdisk exclusively
[06:52] <jhutchins_lt> joaomario: The debian branch didn't even use to have them, they added them for LSB compatibility, but by default they don't do anything.
[06:52] <jhutchins_lt> joaomario: You can manually configure them to work like SysV systems, but you have to.
[06:52] <fritz_> so just take out the "#" 4 the 4 lines under "examples"
[06:52] <fritz_> ?
[06:54] <dr_willis> yes
[06:54] <dr_willis> this is where #2 and #3 on my list come in.. Heh.. I gotta get to work on that list sometime
[06:55] <dr_willis> the menu.lst is a little odd  but those lines are just simple comments.
[06:55] <dolphin> hald-addon-storage freezes my system every now and then when I insert a CD/DVD to my DVD-writer (laptop running feisty-x86_64)
[06:55] <dr_willis>  title         Windows 95/98/NT/2000
[06:55] <dr_willis>  root          (hd0,0)
[06:55] <dr_willis> and so on.
[06:55] <fritz_> ok dr_willis...rebooting
[06:55] <fritz_> :)
[06:55] <dr_willis> That edit is somthing i do almost blindfolded on every ubuntu isntall i make
[06:56] <dr_willis> :)
[06:56] <dr_willis> need to make script to do it. Heh
[06:56] <joaomario> but the inicialization scripts are divided into rc0.d .... rc6.d ?
[06:56] <athena> didn't we get rid of rc when at edgy?
[06:57] <jriachi> dr_willis: btw, one day I found "10 exercices to become proficient in a programming language: involving hello world, recursion...", it would be great to make a 10 exercices for starting in a new operating system "create a new user, login, sudo/runas/... a program"
[06:57] <dolphin> is that a known problem?
[06:57] <joaomario> appearently not
[06:57] <dr_willis> jriachi,  played with that 'hackity hack' programiong language/tutorial system yet?
[06:57] <dr_willis> its amuseing.
[06:58] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, I was in formed by arwen/athena,the windows example in the grub menu.lst will work for a windows partition if it's uncommented
[06:58] <jriachi> dr_willis: maybe this summer, i plan to learn some python
[06:58] <dr_willis> http://hacketyhack.net/
[06:58] <athena> BluesKaj, I never said anything like that!
[06:58] <athena> .,.....
[06:58] <dr_willis> its using Ruby :)
[06:59] <dr_willis> Heh..
[06:59] <BluesKaj> oops.. arwen then
[06:59] <athena> I *am* Arwen...
[06:59] <joaomario> I would like a way to restart the machine in text mode when beryl crashes. So that I can manage to put things in order and then restart X again.
[06:59] <jriachi> dr_willis: ruby sounds cool too :)
[06:59] <BluesKaj> yeah , well I wish a log
[06:59] <dr_willis> I just read the menu.lst and noticed it being there.
[06:59] <BluesKaj> i kept
[06:59] <dr_willis> jriachi,  yea hackity hack kept me amused for an hr or 2 last week
[06:59] <shane2peru> my music keeps skipping in amarok, just started today!  Any ideas why?
[06:59] <shane2peru> They played find before!
[07:00] <shane2peru> fine
[07:00] <jriachi> (i thought that  'hackity hack tutorial'=="10 exercises", but that url sounds cool)
[07:01] <ardchoille> shane2peru: Make sure to not move or jostle the player.. the needle can skip.
[07:01] <Cris987> hi everyone
[07:01] <Cris987> this is my first time here
[07:02] <shane2peru> ardchoille: well, that is what it sounds like, but they are all mp3 files on hdd.
[07:02] <Cris987> i'm having a little trouble opening kontact
[07:02] <Cris987> could someone offer me a hand?
[07:02] <ardchoille> Cris987: You'll have to narrow that odwn a bit.
[07:02] <shane2peru> ardchoille: seems to happen every 5 seconds
[07:02] <shane2peru> exactly
[07:02] <Cris987> okay
[07:03] <Cris987> i have been using contact for a week or so
[07:03] <Cris987> works perfectly
[07:03] <jussi01> can someone tell me how to change the desktop icon sizes
[07:03] <jhutchins_lt> shane2peru: Something else is using CPU.
[07:03] <jussi01> ??
[07:03] <ardchoille> shane2peru: Not sure, I've never used amarok
[07:03] <Cris987> until last night, when i opened kontact
[07:03] <dr_willis> jriachi,  aparently hackityhack has some issues under linux. having to RTFM on it now. i had it going under windows heh
[07:03] <Cris987> it just won't load anymore
[07:03] <neil_> Hey guys, believe it or not resuming from suspend FINALLY works in ubuntu if you add the new nvidia drivers! So does VT switching..
[07:03] <neil_> How can we get this added to ubuntu repositories?
[07:03] <Cris987> the icon flashes a few times, and disappears
[07:03] <shane2peru> ardchoille: well looking at my little cpu monitor on the panel, says no heavy process running.
[07:03] <jriachi> jussi01: it is in settings -> appearance -> icons
[07:04] <jussi01> jriachi: thanks
[07:04] <Cris987> i tried opening kontact with konsole, and here's what i get
[07:04] <shane2peru> ardchoille: maybe it is a record player effect enabled, :)  ha ha.
[07:04] <ardchoille> hahahaha
[07:04] <Cris987> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[07:04] <Cris987>   Major opcode:  144
[07:04] <Cris987>   Minor opcode:  3
[07:04] <Cris987>   Resource id:  0x0
[07:04] <Cris987> Failed to open device
[07:04] <neil_> Anybody know?
[07:04] <Cris987> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[07:04] <Cris987>   Major opcode:  144
[07:04] <Cris987>   Minor opcode:  3
[07:04] <Cris987>   Resource id:  0x0
[07:04] <TeraDyne> !pastebin | cris987
[07:04] <Cris987> Failed to open device
[07:04] <ubotu> cris987: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:04] <Cris987> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.
[07:04] <jriachi> jussi01: i guess you tried with desktop-right-click ?
[07:04] <Cris987> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.
[07:04] <ardchoille> !paste | Cris987
[07:04] <ubotu> Cris987: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:04] <Cris987> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.
[07:04] <shane2peru> !pastebin
[07:04] <jhutchins_lt> We need a kickbot for that.
[07:05] <dr_willis> gotta love FAQ's
[07:05] <dr_willis> !baddevice
[07:05] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[07:05] <ardchoille> jhutchins_lt: I agree
[07:05] <dr_willis> his # is 144 ... thats odd..
[07:05] <Bllz> question:  i accidentally closed the wizard that runs the first time in AmaroK, is there a way I can run it again?
[07:05] <dr_willis> oh wait wrong line. :)
[07:05] <theotick_> !ohmy
[07:05] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:06] <Cris987> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27290/plain/
[07:06] <ardchoille> Cris987: Well, that " X Error: BadDevice" stuff can be fixed by commenting out all the wacom stuff in xorg.conf
[07:06] <dr_willis>  http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[07:06] <Cris987> it seems like the x error isn't the problem though
[07:06] <TeraDyne> theotick_: who was that directed at?
[07:06] <ardchoille> dr_willis: That's Hawkwind's site :)
[07:07] <Bllz> anyone know how i can run the amaroK wizard again?  I accidentally closed it te first time I started the app
[07:07] <Cris987> cuz i opend amarok perfectly but it hase the bad devices warnings as well
[07:07] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  never noticed..Ive edited those things out by hand so much...
[07:07] <ardchoille> Cris987: Thos BadDevice warnings are going to continue until you edit xorg.conf
[07:07] <dr_willis> its just warnings.. and annoying.. but they dont break anything
[07:07] <Cris987> okay, let me try editing  it and see what happens
[07:07] <TeraDyne> I did not know that taking out the wacom entries would stop those. Nice.
[07:08] <Bllz> anybody?
[07:08] <ardchoille> Cris987: It won't fix the kontact problem.
[07:08] <jriachi> dr_willis: what about for    #0 "Monitors no longer explode, and you can't burn hardware due to software misconfiguration. Don't be afraid of trying new things or configurations"
[07:08] <Cris987> how should i go about fixing my kontact problem then?
[07:09] <Cris987> i'm assuming the problem has sth to do with the lines:
[07:09] <Cris987> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.
[07:09] <Cris987> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.
[07:09] <dr_willis> jriachi,  thats when its time togo to #5 on my list.. learning the xorg.conf file :)
[07:09] <Cris987> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::plugAccel(): call to deprecated action.
[07:09] <joaomario> cris, maybe you could reinstall it, if everything else fails.
[07:09] <jhutchins_lt> Cris987: Stop pasting here or you will be kicked.
[07:09] <jriachi> dr_willis: when you read old linux books... it is scary (really scary) the risks they warn you about
[07:09] <Cris987> i 'm sorry
[07:09] <jhutchins_lt> Cris987: THose errors will occur for most or all X programs.
[07:10] <dr_willis> jriachi,  yep.. i got a wall full of them.
[07:10] <jhutchins_lt> Cris987: Eliminating them might make it easier to see actual errors.
[07:10] <Cris987> not famillair with IRC rules...
[07:10] <dr_willis> jriachi,  gotta love linux FUNdamentals.
[07:10] <dr_willis> !flood
[07:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:10] <jhutchins_lt> Cris987: When you start kontact from console, does it run?
[07:10] <dr_willis> work time for me. bye all
[07:10] <Cris987> it tries to run
[07:10] <Cris987> but shows the warnings i posted
[07:11] <dolphin> hmm
[07:11] <Sanne> Cris987: maybe a kontact process is still running somewhere. Can you find it in the process list when you start ksysguard?
[07:11] <jhutchins_lt> Cris987:  THat's not exactly an answer.  We understand about the warnings, does it run?
[07:11] <Cris987> nope
[07:11] <ardchoille> Cris987: Open a term and type:  ps aux | grep kontact
[07:11] <jhutchins_lt> Cris987: If you create a new user, can that user run kontact?
[07:11] <pupeno_> I am having a problem. Both of my Kubuntu notebooks strugle to get an IP from a three different DHCP servers. I'd say something is wrong here, and not the servers. I believe that when I get the IP, the eth0:avahi interface is not created. Any ideas?
[07:11] <jhutchins_lt> passing him off to you ardchoille
[07:12] <Cris987> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27291/plain/
[07:12] <ardchoille> Cris987: Have you installed any packages or run any install scripts lately?
[07:13] <navets> is there any software to make webpages for kubuntu?
[07:13] <Cris987> Ardchoille: not that i'm aware of
[07:13] <ardchoille> Cris987: Ok, you see that? you have two kontact processes running
[07:13] <TeraDyne> !nvu | navets
[07:13] <ubotu> navets: nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.
[07:13] <jthomas> scp "eljefe@eljefedelito.homelinux.org:/home/eljefe/bigboi/Movies/Final\ Movies/Andrew.zip" .
[07:13] <jthomas> ^ scp is the program, 'secure copy'
[07:13] <jthomas>      ^ eljefe is the username AT ^ the server name eljefedelito.homelinux.org
[07:13] <jthomas>                                          ^/home/eljefe... is the directory path to the file
[07:13] <TeraDyne> !quanta | navets
[07:13] <jthomas> sorry!!!
[07:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quanta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <Cris987> weird, i thought i tried starting an ew session, and killing the kontact processes
[07:13] <jthomas> does anyone know how to remotely restart kpf (KDE Public File Server, kicker applet) ??
[07:14] <navets> TeraDyne: do you use any of them? also which is the best?
[07:14] <TeraDyne> navets: I use quanta, and personally, I love it. It's not a WYSIWYG editor, but it works as far as I need it to.
[07:15] <Cris987> okay, i have just killed all my kontact processes thru sysguard
[07:15] <Cris987> and i ran kontact in console again
[07:15] <Cris987> same lines show up
[07:15] <Cris987> still won't run
[07:15] <b0ha> hello guys, i have some problems
[07:15] <jhutchins_lt> jthomas: Only if you're running a vpn server in the session.  That is why you don't run servers in gui sessions.
[07:15] <ardchoille> Cris987: Ok, so now you probably have another kontact process running.
[07:16] <b0ha> i install ntfs-3g driver for writing on ntfs
[07:16] <navets> TeraDyne: im not to sure what WYSIWYG is, I created a webpage but only using css and html. Does WYSIWYG make it easier?
[07:16] <jthomas> jhutchins_lt: hmm good point but that really ... makes me sad
[07:16] <b0ha> now when i try to install something
[07:16] <b0ha> i get this error:
[07:16] <b0ha> Setting up fuse-utils (2.6.3-0givre2) ...
[07:16] <b0ha> creating fuse device node...
[07:16] <b0ha> /sbin/MAKEDEV: don't know how to make device "fuse"
[07:16] <b0ha> dpkg: error processing fuse-utils (--configure):
[07:16] <b0ha>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status
[07:16] <ardchoille> !paste | b0ha
[07:16] <ubotu> b0ha: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:16] <b0ha> anyone knows what could be wrong?
[07:16] <jriachi> navets: WYSIWYG is using  openoffice/word/...  and saving as .html
[07:16] <jhutchins_lt> Cris987: The error messages are complaining that your xorg.conf configures the system for devices you don't have.  If you remove the lines that configure them from the xorg.conf file, the error messages will go away.
[07:16] <b0ha> sorry for flood
[07:17] <navets> jriachi: Oh, ok thanks
[07:17] <jhutchins_lt> !fuse | b0ha
[07:17] <ubotu> b0ha: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:17] <ardchoille> jhutchins_lt: Yeah, it's my opinion that those lines should be commented out by default.
[07:17] <jriachi> navets: that will be one cold beer, thanks :p
[07:17] <jhutchins_lt> ardchoille: The devices are handled correctly by other distributions.   Ubuntu has just been lazy about them.
[07:17] <underdog5004> b0ha, ntfs write is stable now, I believe
[07:17] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[07:18] <navets> jriachi: all I have is pepsi man
[07:18] <jhutchins_lt> underdog5004: I think so, but that's the only fuse resource I have.
[07:18] <underdog5004> jhutchins, one of the first things I do on a fresh install is comment out the references to wacom stuff...what a bother!
[07:18] <ejortegau> hi there. two small questions: 1) how do i force dhcp client to release the lease and forget it ever had it? just so i'm sure i'm getting an IP given by the dhcp server instead of some cached IP. 2) is there any reason why i should be getting different IP addresses in windows and in linux?
[07:18] <jriachi> navets: then i'll wait for you to earn more money, visit Valladolid, Spain and buy me a beer. :p
[07:18] <b0ha> tnx jhutchins_lt i will have a look
[07:18] <Misterfixit> How to get Kbuntu to recognize an SD card when the card is inserted in the usb reader.  Lights blink but nothing gets mounted.  fsab modification????
[07:19] <underdog5004> ejortegau, sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[07:19] <navets> jriachi: k just dont forget me while im gone!
[07:19] <underdog5004> that should get a new ip address.
[07:19] <jriachi> navets: don't worry, i never forget a beer promise
[07:19] <underdog5004> the reasoning behind different ip address between os's...I think that's the Dynamic part of DHCP....
[07:19] <jhutchins_lt> ejortegau: Check the manpage for your client.  The reason that the IP is different for each system is that the different dhcp clients store the last used IP in different places.
[07:20] <underdog5004> if you want it static, then edit the /etc/network/interfaces file
[07:20] <navets> jriachi: lol hey do you know what the command would be to get quanta plus? sudo apt-get install quanta-plus or something/
[07:20] <jhutchins_lt> ejortegau: You can find the file where this is stored in linux, replace the IP with the IP windows was using, and you should get consistency, at least for a while.
[07:21] <jriachi> navets: in kubuntu it seems there is only quanta, not quanta-plus (apt-get install quanta)
[07:21] <joaomario> navets, you can tyype: apt-get search quanta && apt-get install (package)
[07:21] <navets> alright thanks guys ill try it out
[07:21] <jhutchins_lt> joaomario: Which won't really work, but apt-get install `apt-search quanta` might/
[07:22] <navets> hum neither work
[07:22] <Bllz> can i synch my Aramok collection to an ipod?
[07:22] <TeraDyne> sudo aptitude install quanta
[07:22] <joaomario> try: sudo apt-get install quanta
[07:22] <navets> Ive got quanta but I read that quanta plus was better
[07:23] <jhutchins_lt> navets: Sorry, it's understood that packages are always installed via sudo, we forget to type it.
[07:23] <TeraDyne> Quanta and Quanta+ are the same, IIRC
[07:23] <navets> I usually code without WYSIWYG but ive never tried it so im looking for it
[07:23] <navets> ok cool
[07:23] <navets> well im gonna play around with quanta then
[07:23] <navets> thanks
[07:23] <nosrednaekim> I personally like nvu
[07:23] <jhutchins_lt> Bllz: Yes.
[07:24] <jriachi> navets:  you are welcome, and your beer too :p
[07:24] <navets> nosrednaekim: ill download it as well :)
[07:24] <navets> jriachi: lol
[07:24] <jhutchins_lt> navets: One of the nice things about quanta is it supports fish.
[07:24] <joaomario> |o|
[07:24] <tecnico> hi
[07:24] <nosrednaekim> hi
[07:25] <joaomario> yes, I like to work through fish. Making life easiaer
[07:25] <navets> jhutchins_lt: thats good I always use fish
[07:25] <Bllz> jhutchins_lt, how do i do that?
[07:25] <TeraDyne> !hello | tecnico
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <jhutchins_lt> fish://user@server.foo
[07:25] <tecnico> somebody can tell me how i can exit to kde and return to console?
[07:25] <tecnico> with ubuntu 7.04
[07:25] <nosrednaekim> tecnico: ctrl+alt+f2
[07:25] <tecnico> thanks
[07:25] <jhutchins_lt> tecnico: Ctrl-Alt-F[1-6] 
[07:25] <nosrednaekim> will get you to the konsole without killing kde
[07:26] <nosrednaekim> and f7 will always briong you back to kde
[07:26] <jhutchins_lt> tecnico: From there you can stop kdm if you want to shut down the xserver.
[07:26] <joaomario> to shut it you can log-out click on the drop-down box at the screen where you type your login info and exit x server
[07:26] <Bllz> how do i sync my ipod to amarok?
[07:26] <tecnico> with #/etc/init.d/xserver stop ?
[07:27] <TeraDyne> wait... ubotu can recognize hi and howdy, but not hello?
[07:27] <nosrednaekim> Bllz: I think you just have to plug it in!
[07:27] <Bllz> nosrednaekim, not working lol
[07:28] <Bllz> it's plugged in and everything... amarok is confusing as all hell!
[07:28] <tecnico> joaomario: where is the drop-down box at the screen ?
[07:28] <joaomario> on the left of the login info
[07:29] <navets> hey can I open a document with fish through kate?
[07:29] <joaomario> its just a draw, but you can lick on it
[07:29] <nosrednaekim> Bllz: go to media devices on the left and try to manually configure it
[07:29] <TeraDyne> joaomario: lick? As in lick the screen?
[07:30] <tecnico> i have kde, is it the same?
[07:30] <nosrednaekim> Bllz: uhh... NM
[07:30] <joaomario> sorry...i meant click...
[07:30] <nosrednaekim> Bllz: go to configure amarok... nd then media devices
[07:30] <Bllz> nosrednaekim, i already did that
[07:31] <Bllz> nosrednaekim, sdb1 plugin apple ipod media device
[07:31] <TeraDyne> Bllz: is there an ipod icon on your desktop?
[07:31] <tecnico> joaomario, ok, but how i disable the xserver to the boot?
[07:31] <Bllz> TeraDyne, yes
[07:32] <Bllz> amarok is just not showing me it's contents or syncing to it
[07:32] <pupeno_> Something is really wrong here, I am able to ping the nameservers, but not query them for names... but while pinging them I don't see anything at all in the tcpdump and when I cancell it I see: 1 packets captured, 495 packets received by filter, 148 packets dropped by kernel... why packets dropped by filter? I don't have any iptables rules.
[07:32] <joaomario> tecnico, when you click there, will appear some options for you. One of them is to restart in text mode.
[07:33] <Fable> i was wondering how you can remove programs from the kmenu that have been removed from the system
[07:33] <Fable> but they are still there
[07:33] <TeraDyne> Bllz: Ok, that wa the only think I could think it would be. I use Rockbox on my nano, so I can't be of any other assistance.
[07:33] <joaomario> fable, kmenuedit
[07:33] <Bllz> what's rockbox? i might not even watn to use amarok, lol
[07:34] <TeraDyne> !rockbox
[07:34] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[07:34] <Bllz> i'm not a big fan of the layout...
[07:34] <nosrednaekim> Bllz: you have a Mac formatted ipod?
[07:34] <Bllz> oh so it's not a mediaplayer?
[07:34] <Bllz> no it's pc formatted
[07:34] <nosrednaekim> Bllz: there is always gtkpod
[07:34] <b0ha> i installed ntfs-3g driver and now i cant install anything i get this error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27299/
[07:34] <Bllz> lol ugh... tried that before
[07:34] <Bllz> i might just use songbird and live without the album art
[07:34] <Bllz> or banshee
[07:34] <TeraDyne> If you want another player, there's always banshee or Rhythmbox. Or you can use GTKpod to manually transfer everything.
[07:35] <ardchoille> album art? There's such thing as album art??
[07:35] <Bllz> on an ipod? yeah
[07:35] <Fable> um another tihng. i have some useless azureus files in my system that i would like to delete because i want to reinstall
[07:35] <Fable> but i cant find them due to permission...
[07:35] <Bllz> does rhythmbox handle album art?
[07:35] <TeraDyne> Bllz: I dunno. I haven't used it since switching to Kubuntu
[07:35] <joaomario> tecnico, everytime you boot to get to text mode?
[07:36] <nosrednaekim> Bllz: you could try exile
[07:36] <nosrednaekim> *exaile
[07:36] <tecnico> joaomario: i have only "log out", "hibernate", "restart", "turn off"...?
[07:36] <Bllz> exaile? i'll look it up, thanks
[07:36] <rustalot> How do I tell Korqueror to render mail.google.com with Gekco?
[07:36] <sovetov> hi all
[07:36] <nosrednaekim> rustalot: you can't
[07:36] <athena> rustalot, you don't
[07:36] <athena> Konq uses KHTML
[07:36] <nosrednaekim> but gmail seems broken with it
[07:36] <Fable> thanks for banning me
[07:36] <sovetov> ruskie est"?
[07:36] <Tm_T> Fable: er?
[07:37] <Fable> athena
[07:37] <rustalot> the problem is that K. isn't a supoorted browser
[07:37] <neil_> Hey guys, believe it or not resuming from suspend FINALLY works in ubuntu if you add the new nvidia drivers! So does VT switching..
[07:37] <neil_> How can we get this added to ubuntu repositories?
[07:37] <athena> hehe
[07:37] <Fable> Tm_T: sorry
[07:37] <joaomario> tecnico, click on log-out, this will get you to the screen I told you abut.
[07:37] <rustalot> so it would be nice if I could render it with FF
[07:37] <tecnico> joaomario: no it's start with kde
[07:37] <tecnico> joaomario: no it's start with kde automaticly
[07:37] <joaomario> ok
[07:37] <athena> Fable, well, you can come back now if you want, but really, I've given up..
[07:37] <rustalot> but keep in the same window
[07:37] <Tm_T> rustalot: well, how about fooling gmail to think you're using firefox?
[07:38] <tecnico> joaomario: ok 'm try now
[07:38] <ardchoille> sovetov: Need runnian?
[07:38] <ardchoille> Russian?
[07:38] <rustalot> Tm_T: it loads, but the script doesn't work
[07:38] <joaomario> you have to log-out. then, on that screen where you put your user-name and password for the system you will find the draw drop-down box
[07:38] <Tm_T> rustalot: hum, true
[07:38] <Tm_T> rustalot: it worked at some point though
[07:39] <joaomario> clicking on that draw will get you the text without X.
[07:40] <sovetov> ardchoille da russian channel need =)
[07:40] <tecnico2> joaomario: ok i see the drop-down box
[07:40] <Tm_T> !ru | sovetov
[07:40] <ubotu> sovetov:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[07:40] <tecnico2> joaomario: thanls
[07:40] <tecnico2> joaomario: thanks
[07:40] <joaomario> you're welcome
[07:40] <tecnico2> joaomario: sorry, i have the last question
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> o... I doubt it si THE last Q.
[07:41] <joaomario> shoot
[07:41] <nosrednaekim> is
[07:41] <tecnico2> joaomario: how i cancel the auto start with xserver from the boot?
[07:41] <joaomario> I would like to know that as well... :)
[07:42] <nosrednaekim> tecnico2: "update-rc.d remove kdm"
[07:42] <nosrednaekim> I think...
[07:42] <nosrednaekim> nope... "sudo update-rc.d kdm remove"
[07:42] <nosrednaekim> there ya go
[07:43] <joaomario> nosrednaekim, How could I put an option at grub, so when I want text mode i get text mode and when i want kde i get kde?
[07:43] <nosrednaekim> joaomario: I don't know.... I think there might be a boot option "nox"
[07:44] <joaomario> ok, thanks.
[07:45] <tecnico2> nosrednaekim: there is a program or a file to see the list of service that start on boot?
[07:46] <joaomario> the /etc/init.d directory
[07:46] <nosrednaekim> I think thats in system settings-> advanced-> services
[07:46] <nosrednaekim> joaomario: not so...
[07:46] <nosrednaekim> some of those don't start on boot.
[07:46] <nosrednaekim> thats just all of the services
[07:46] <tecnico2> =)
[07:46] <tecnico2> perfect, thank you nosrednaekim
[07:46] <joaomario> ok
[07:47] <tecnico2> i'm a newbie with Ubuntu i ever use red hat ;)
[07:47] <nosrednaekim> ahh.,
[07:47] <joaomario> the one's which start on boot are placed on the rc.[0-6]  directories?
[07:48] <nosrednaekim> joaomario: yes.. depending on the runlevel.
[07:49] <joaomario> so, does the command sudo rebbot 3, would take me to runlevel 3?
[07:50] <nosrednaekim> no... I think its " init 3" or something like that/
[07:50] <joaomario> ok thanks
[07:51] <tecnico2> it's #init 3
[07:51] <nosrednaekim> :)
[07:51] <karthikp_> Okay, I have a question/gripe.
[07:51] <nosrednaekim> go ahead
[07:51] <karthikp_> I have this 80 gig FAT32 partition
[07:51] <karthikp_> So, when I boot up kubuntu, it starts up this progress bar till it hits dosfsck
[07:52] <karthikp_> Then, it reverts to the text-type boot up.
[07:52] <karthikp_> Can I make it stay in either one?
[07:52] <nosrednaekim> karthikp_: ok.. does that for me too
[07:52] <karthikp_> Like either show me a graphical progress bar all the way
[07:52] <karthikp_> Or the textual one.
[07:52] <nosrednaekim> karthikp_: I don't know...
[07:53] <nosrednaekim> well.. you can do "nosplash" on boot for no splash
[07:53] <tecnico2> thanks to all, bye guyz
[07:53] <karthikp_> So, that'd give me a text scroll all the way?
[07:54] <nosrednaekim> karthikp_: I think so
[07:54] <nosrednaekim> it might be "splash=silent"
[07:54] <nosrednaekim> I forget
[07:54] <karthikp_> I'll try both...
[07:54] <nosrednaekim> lol
[07:54] <karthikp_> It's in the /boot/grub/menu.lst file, right?
[07:55] <karthikp_> (I meant one at a time... :) )
[07:55] <nosrednaekim> yah, but you can try it live on boot
[07:55] <nosrednaekim> just hit "e" over the entry you want to edit
[07:55] <karthikp_> Editing the grub menu?
[07:55] <karthikp_> Right.
[07:55] <karthikp_> Do you think perhaps, that it's basically timing out on dosfsck?
[07:55] <moj0rising> Not sure if this is the right place for this question but, on my ftp server, users can navigate to each other's directories, though they can't list the contents...
[07:56] <karthikp_> Like it waits for some status message from it and never gets it.
[07:56] <moj0rising> ...is there any way to prevent them from getting in the directories in the first place?
[07:56] <moj0rising> Or is that even a security issue at all?
[07:56] <karthikp_> So, it drops out of the splash level to the text thing...?
[07:56] <nosrednaekim> karthikp_: yeah...might be something with that.
[07:56] <nosrednaekim> you can disable the checking of the dos partition
[07:57] <karthikp_> Does it happen to all users with a fat32 partition, or just to some with large ones?
[07:57] <nosrednaekim> I get it...
[07:57] <nosrednaekim> sometimes.
[07:57] <karthikp_> Yeah, but sometimes windows might mess it up. Isn't it safer to check?
[07:57] <nosrednaekim> but I have a 30Gig partition
[07:57] <nosrednaekim> karthikp_: do it manually every once in while
[07:57] <karthikp_> Mine's over 80 G...
[07:58] <karthikp_> After every Half Life session, eh? :)
[07:58] <nosrednaekim> hehe
[07:58] <JohnFlux> Mine is 15"
[07:58] <joaomario> Is the reiserFS worth using it?
[07:58] <nosrednaekim> joaomario: not really
[07:58] <Bob_> hello everyone
[07:58] <JohnFlux> joaomario: depends if you have any data you need corrupted
[07:58] <karthikp_> @nosrednaekin: Why not?
[07:58] <nosrednaekim> joaomario: it increases CPU use as well
[07:58] <Bob_> any clues as to how i can make an installed program appear on my k menu?
[07:59] <nosrednaekim> karthikp_: I never saw any performance gain.
[07:59] <joaomario> i heard it is fast but unstable.
[07:59] <karthikp_> Right. Me neither.
[07:59] <nosrednaekim> Bob_: yes, you can edit your kmenu
[07:59] <karthikp_> Heard it was fast, too.
[07:59] <nosrednaekim> karthikp_: I just use ext3
[07:59] <karthikp_> Coincidentally, I read a Wired article on the man himself. He's in prison.
[07:59] <Cris987> hello everyone
[07:59] <nosrednaekim> yeah I read that too
[07:59] <Bob_> nosred- but will i have to manually select the program fron the filesystem?
[08:00] <Cris987> i was editing my xorg
[08:00] <omega__> hy again
[08:00] <joaomario> i read that too
[08:00] <omega__> to all
[08:00] <Cris987> just commenting out the wacom lines
[08:00] <Cris987> and it seems like  i messed up
[08:00] <Cris987> my system wont boot now (using bro computer)
[08:00] <nosrednaekim> Bob_: no.... not if you can simply run it from the konsole with a "<program name>
[08:00] <joaomario> maybe the best thing to do is stick to the ext3/ext2 fs.
[08:00] <Cris987> when i boot, all it gives is a flashing cursor
[08:01] <omega__> i know that i should read the forum for my problem
[08:01] <Bob_> well my kmail has dissappeared and the pkg mgr says it's installed, but i can't find it
[08:01] <nosrednaekim> Cris987: is that b4 or after grub?
[08:01] <Cris987> after grub
[08:01] <nosrednaekim> Bob_: that happened to me
[08:01] <b0ha> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27299/
[08:01] <Cris987> how can i restore my backuped xorg file?
[08:01] <omega__> but i don't understand all that is write in there
[08:01] <b0ha> why do i get this error
[08:02] <Bob_> well thankyou for your help
[08:02] <omega__> so is easy for me to ask in here for help
[08:02] <nosrednaekim> Bob_: just edit the menu, and put "kmail" in as the command
[08:02] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:02] <omega__> when is someone good to help me
[08:02] <Cris987> anyone?
[08:03] <Bob_> ok, i see it now. why didn't i think of that already? will any installed programrun with a one word command?
[08:03] <Cris987> how to i boot my system to command line?
[08:03] <omega__> so i ask again for help
[08:03] <nosrednaekim> Cris987: did you try booting command line?
[08:03] <nosrednaekim> Bob_: pretty much
[08:03] <Cris987> how do i boot command line?
[08:03] <nosrednaekim> Cris987: sorry... did you boot recovery mode?
[08:03] <Bob_> nosred : many thanks
[08:04] <nosrednaekim> NP
[08:04] <Cris987> i think i've tried booting recovery mode once
[08:04] <omega__> how can i know that my nvidia driver is the good one and the last
[08:04] <Cris987> but it just sorta froze after a list of statements
[08:04] <omega__> can anyone help me
[08:04] <omega__> ?
[08:04] <omega__> pls?
[08:04] <nosrednaekim> omega__: what is your problem?
[08:05] <joaomario> omega_, I have quadro fx 1500, and i just get it to work properly with the new nvidia driver.
[08:05] <nosrednaekim> Cris987: hmm what was the last message?
[08:05] <Cris987> holdon, let me try again thru recovery mode
[08:05] <omega__> my beryl don't want to start
[08:05] <joaomario> first you have to configure your video card properly then beryl will work
[08:06] <omega__> i have an nvidia  mx440
[08:06] <nosrednaekim> omega__: doesn't start at all?
[08:06] <omega__> yes
[08:06] <omega__> at all
[08:06] <nosrednaekim> how old is that card?
[08:06] <omega__> is tryin
[08:06] <nosrednaekim> more than 3 years?
[08:06] <omega__> aaa
[08:06] <oem_> is gentoo rubbish?
[08:06] <nosrednaekim> oem_: no
[08:06] <athena> no, lol
[08:07] <omega__> i don't think so
[08:07] <athena> it's just not for noobs
[08:07] <oem_> yer
[08:07] <athena> and the impatient
[08:07] <omega__> it has work oance
[08:07] <oem_> have to sit for a while to work it out
[08:07] <oem_> it has work oance?
[08:07] <athena> and compiling takes forever :-\
[08:08] <omega__> first time work just fine
[08:08] <oem_> o
[08:08] <oem_> ok
[08:08] <oem_> kubuntu seems good
[08:08] <omega__> ye
[08:08] <oem_> probably the best distro i have tried so far
[08:08] <omega__> i have to get out for a while
[08:08] <omega__> tanks to all
[08:08] <joaomario> I think you should go to nvidia.com and look for a driver
[08:09] <omega__> thanks
[08:09] <joaomario> ok
[08:09] <theotick_> mx440 was produced in '02. so its 5 years old
[08:09] <nosrednaekim> oem_: yeah its pretty good for 32 bit
[08:09] <nosrednaekim> yeah.,.. that means he need the legacy drivers.... thats what I thought
[08:09] <Cris987> okay, i successfully got into recovery mode
[08:10] <Cris987> so i'm gonna try restoring my xorg file
[08:10] <Cris987> hope it works
[08:10] <navets> how can i get my printer set up?
[08:11] <nosrednaekim> Cris987:
[08:11] <nosrednaekim> ok
[08:11] <nosrednaekim> no error this time?
[08:17] <b0ha> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27299/
[08:17] <b0ha> anyone?
[08:17] <underdog5004>  b0ha what's the problem?
[08:17] <underdog5004> maybe I can help
[08:17] <Cris987> hello, back
[08:17] <Cris987> restored my xorg
[08:17] <nosrednaekim> did it work?
[08:18] <Cris987> yup
[08:18] <nosrednaekim> cool
[08:18] <nosrednaekim> don't worry about the wacom stuff
[08:18] <underdog5004> b0ha, try typing in sudo apt-get install -f
[08:18] <Cris987> but kontact still dosen't run for me
[08:18] <nosrednaekim> Cris987: whats it do?
[08:18] <b0ha> underdog5004: i got this error when i try to install something
[08:18] <underdog5004> b0ha, anything?
[08:18] <nosrednaekim> was that happening before you messed with X?
[08:19] <Cris987> the kontact icon flashes a few times, brings up a blank system tray icon, and that's it
[08:19] <nosrednaekim> run it from the konsole
[08:19] <Cris987> should i try reinstalling it or something?
[08:19] <b0ha> underdog5004: i get the same error
[08:19] <underdog5004> weird...what were you installing when this first happened?
[08:20] <b0ha> underdog5004: ntfs-3g
[08:20] <astan> hello folks. what creates xorg.conf during installation? and how can i trigger this operation again from command line?
[08:20] <Cris987> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27306/plain/
[08:20] <underdog5004> b0ha, hmm, did it install correctly?
[08:20] <nosrednaekim> astan: "dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xorg
[08:21] <joaomario> yep Cris, that's what I thought would be the best solution for you.
[08:21] <nosrednaekim> *xserver-xorg
[08:21] <b0ha> underdog5004: well i followed tutorial
[08:21] <astan> nosrednaekim: thanks.
[08:21] <underdog5004> b0ha, yeah, but did ntfs-3g install correctly or were there errors?
[08:21] <b0ha> underdog5004: im noob on linux so i dont know if everything went well
[08:21] <Cris987> joaomario: what solution?
[08:21] <underdog5004> b0ha, no problem
[08:21] <underdog5004> b0ha, try typing in sudo apt-get install -f
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> Cris987: ouch...
[08:22] <joaomario> uninstalling it, removing te configuration files and then reinstalling
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> reinstall kontact
[08:22] <Cris987> okay
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> at least try
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> completely remove it.
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> then install it
[08:23] <b0ha> underdog5004: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27299/ i get this
[08:23] <joaomario> but, yes, nosrednaekin, she has to uninstall it with the option to take out the configuration files....which one is it I don't remember
[08:23] <underdog5004> b0ha, try sudo apt-get remove --purge ntfs-3g
[08:24] <nosrednaekim> I think thats completely remove...might be "purge" from the command line
[08:24] <b0ha> underdog5004: it doesnt remove it, still same error :S
[08:24] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. its purge
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> add the --purge option
[08:25] <underdog5004> b0ha, sorry, I can't think of anything else... try googling for you error
[08:26] <b0ha> ok, tnx for your help anyway
[08:27] <Cris987> when i try to remove kontact...
[08:27] <Cris987> it tries to remove kdesktop as well...
[08:27] <nosrednaekim> Cris987: ouch.
[08:28] <Cris987> do it anyways?
[08:28] <zorglu_> !ming
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <zorglu_> !info ming
[08:28] <nosrednaekim> Cris987: does kmail work?
[08:28] <astan> hm. somehow all my fonts look very small all of a sudden and i'm not sure what i could have changed in my xorg configuration.. any ideas? i'm using 9 pt for most fonts in KDE, but they look more like 7 (or even 6) pt to me on screen :/
[08:28] <ubotu> Package ming does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:28] <zorglu_> bad ubotu
[08:28] <Cris987> yes, kmail works
[08:28] <Cris987> korganizer doesn't work
[08:28] <Cris987> neither does akregrator
[08:29] <nosrednaekim> ah.
[08:29] <nosrednaekim> hmm
[08:29] <nosrednaekim> sounds like a nasty little bug to me.
[08:30] <joaomario> are u on feisty, cris, because I tried to remove it, and it just attempted to remove kontact
[08:30] <nosrednaekim> you might trying to go over to #kubuntu-devel, but make sure you say in no uncertain terms that it is a bug... don't make it sound like a "help" request
[08:30] <Cris987> no, i'm still on dapper...
[08:31] <nosrednaekim> oh.
[08:31] <Cris987> does that make a lot of difference?
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> it might.
[08:32] <joaomario> thats why. how could apt just attempt to remove that only package.... hummm....
[08:32] <athena> omg, my firefox is leaking memory!!!
[08:32] <athena> nooo!!!
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> athena: whats new?
[08:32] <hammer> hi
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> hi
[08:32] <athena> I liek left it open for 3 days and its liek using liek 20M!!!!!!
[08:32] <athena> nooo!! bad firefox! bad!
[08:33] <TFrog> athena, at least it isn't as bad as MS IE's memory leak. that's been around for almost a decade without a fix
[08:33] <hammer> i've accidentally formatted fat32 partition (into fat32 =) Is it possible to restore data from linux
[08:33] <hammer> ?
[08:33] <athena> (apparently the sarcasm was lost)
[08:33] <nosrednaekim> 20M isn't THAT bad
[08:33] <nosrednaekim> hammer: not if you did a mkfs.vfat or such
[08:33] <athena> if you formatted as in zeroed the fs, hell no
[08:33] <TFrog> hammer, there is a winbloze app for retrieving lost linux data
[08:34] <athena> wtf is winbloze?
[08:34] <athena> hmm?
[08:34] <nosrednaekim> windows
[08:34] <TFrog> MS crap
[08:34] <hammer> windoze apps found the data, but i don't have so much freespace
[08:34] <hammer> in win
[08:34] <joaomario> Konqueror is getting better and better as time passes, hu?!?!
[08:34] <athena> if you mean Windows, why not just say... Windows?
[08:34] <athena> god, f***ing trolls
[08:34] <nosrednaekim> joaomario: thatsthe way things go.
[08:34] <athena> joaomario, eh, I'd hope so..
[08:35] <nosrednaekim> athena: calm down... you can't start a flame war saying things like that on this channel
[08:35] <joaomario> thanks God.
[08:35] <nosrednaekim> !linus
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <TFrog> hammer, go download a copy of R-linux. it may help you out in that instance
[08:35] <TeraDyne> athena: welcome to the world of FOSS fans
[08:35] <nosrednaekim> !Linus Torvalds
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linus torvalds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <nosrednaekim> stupid BOT!
[08:35] <TeraDyne> !botabuse
[08:35] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:35] <athena> see? linus doesn't exist
[08:35] <nosrednaekim> hehe... I's kiddin
[08:36] <nosrednaekim> now what would happen if i put in RMS...
[08:36] <athena> !rms
[08:36] <ubotu> rms is Richard Matthew Stallman, founder of the GNU project. See !gnu and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman
[08:36] <nosrednaekim> hmph..
[08:36] <athena> so RMS is greater than Linus!
[08:36] <binks_> how can i force my cd drive to unmount
[08:36] <nosrednaekim> someone needs to put LInux in there.
[08:36] <joaomario> ubelievable
[08:36] <athena> binks_, umount -fl /dev/cdrom
[08:37] <nosrednaekim> !LT
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <athena> !enoughbotabuse
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enoughbotabuse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <binks_> athena: i had to sudo but it worked cheers
[08:37] <joaomario> this two guys sand the community hould get together to the best of all
[08:37] <athena> binks_, :-)
[08:38] <binks_> anyone installed linux media center
[08:38] <athena> but remember never to use that command on a read/write fs, or you'll break it
[08:38] <TeraDyne> !ask | binks_
[08:38] <ubotu> binks_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:38] <binks_> cheers i forgot the cmd already
[08:38] <binks_> TeraDyne: i didnt
 anyone installed linux media center
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> binks_: nope.. I hear its good
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> thoght
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> *though
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> man I can't spell today
[08:39] <binks_> i was asking if anyone had installed it
[08:39] <binks_> nosrednaekim: blame the batteries in the keyboard i do
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> I have a laptop.
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> :)
[08:40] <binks_> even better blame fat fingers :)
[08:40] <TeraDyne> binks_: ah, ok. Normally, people don't ask that kind of question unless they need help with it. Not here, anyway.
[08:40] <binks_> no started the install yet
[08:40] <TeraDyne> nosrednaekim: I'm also using a laptop. I should break out the usb keyboard, but I'm either to busy or to lazy, depending on the time of day.
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> my keyboard is nice... I don't mind it...
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> but I *hate* touch pads
[08:41] <joaomario> me too
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> and my usb mouse just broke
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> m$ junk
[08:42] <TeraDyne> nosrednaekim: which is why I use a mouse, and keep about three in reserve
[08:42] <nosrednaekim> i'm using my brothers (dont tell him)
[08:42] <athena> wtf is m$?
[08:42] <joaomario> i have to get out to buy a mouse, because this touch pad is really annoying
[08:42] <athena> but anyway, what's the arabic support channel?
[08:42] <nosrednaekim> microsoft
[08:42] <athena> no, microsoft is ms
[08:42] <nosrednaekim> lol... more trolling
[08:42] <athena> but anyway, what's the arabic support channel?
[08:42] <joaomario> !ms
[08:42] <TeraDyne> nosrednaekim: I chucked a mouse across the room one time. broke it to bits
[08:42] <nosrednaekim> !arabic
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[08:42] <athena> ah, -sa
[08:43] <nosrednaekim> !windows
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[08:43] <joaomario> great answer ubotu
[08:43] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack\
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botsnack\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <nosrednaekim> !botsnack
[08:43] <TeraDyne> XD
[08:43] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:43] <athena> see, troll comments like that are why nobody likes F/OSS
[08:44] <joaomario> have you guys read about vista blocking searches on google?
[08:44] <Tm_T> athena: nobody?
[08:44] <Tm_T> joaomario: offtopic
[08:44] <TeraDyne> athena: if that were true, slashdot and digg would be dead
[08:44] <athena> Tm_T, yes, nobody
[08:44] <freepenguin> hello everybody
[08:44] <Tm_T> athena: who's this "nobody" ?
[08:44] <athena> TeraDyne, that's because slashdot and digg are full of nobodies
[08:44] <athena> Tm_T, http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=geek&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2
[08:44] <athena> that's a nobody
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> hello
[08:45] <athena> anyway, back on topic..
[08:45] <athena> !hello | Freejack_CSI
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <athena> ...
[08:45] <athena> stupid bot.... stupid tab completion...
[08:45] <TeraDyne> athena: I tried that earlier
[08:47] <freepenguin> hello everybody
[08:47] <nosrednaekim> hello
[08:47] <TeraDyne> Can anyone recommend a good financial program?
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> gnucash
[08:48] <TeraDyne> !hi | freepenguin
[08:48] <ubotu> freepenguin: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:48] <waylandbill> KMyMoney is simple to use.
[08:48] <TeraDyne> !KMyMoney
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmymoney - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <freepenguin> ubotu, TeraDyne  Hello
[08:48] <waylandbill> !info KMyMoney
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about teradyne  hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> !gnucash
[08:48] <ubotu> Package kmymoney does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnucash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> !info gnucash
[08:48] <ubotu> gnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.2-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2065 kB, installed size 6512 kB
[08:48] <joaomario> !kmymoney2
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmymoney2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <TeraDyne> nosrednaekim: thanks.
[08:49] <waylandbill> !info kmymoney2
[08:49] <ubotu> kmymoney2: personal finance manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 6680 kB, installed size 13200 kB
[08:49] <waylandbill> a little bigger than gnucash, but the familiar kde interface is a bonus.
[08:49] <Schuenemann> !sopcast
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sopcast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <joaomario> yes, a good bonus
[08:50] <TeraDyne> waylandbill: Thanks. Now I know what to put into aptitude.
[08:50] <Schuenemann> has anybody ever used a program called sopcast in linux (tv p2p) ?
[08:51] <nosrednaekim> !bug 1
[08:51] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[08:51] <nosrednaekim> huh?
[08:52] <comosicus> i whant to upload a picture in a site...under my picture is "006.jpg" and under that is "jpeg image"...but when i whant to upload her in to that site i can't do it becous is telling me that my picture is not a jpg standard.....whay?what can i do?
[08:53] <theotick_> !bug 1
[08:53] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[08:53] <nosrednaekim> thats odd
[08:53] <nosrednaekim> bug #1
[08:53] <Schuenemann> !bug
[08:53] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:55] <comosicus> someone
[08:57] <joaomario> how can I help?
[08:58] <comosicus> i whant to upload a picture in a site...under my picture is "006.jpg" and under that is "jpeg image"...but when i whant to upload her in to that site i can't do it becous is telling me that my picture is not a jpg standard.....whay?what can i do?
[08:59] <comosicus> try this
[08:59] <Cris987> join #kubuntu-dev
[08:59] <comosicus> 10x
[08:59] <comosicus> nu thanks
[08:59] <comosicus> no
[08:59] <joaomario> huuummmm
[08:59] <Cris987> hi...
[08:59] <nosrednaekim> Cris987: no sure if thats the place to go..
[08:59] <Cris987> umm, what's the kubuntu-dev irc channel again?
[09:00] <Schuenemann> I installed a program using wine. I chose to install on 'c:\sop'. How can I find out where is that?
[09:00] <nosrednaekim> #kubuntu-devel
[09:00] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: yeah yeah
[09:00] <nosrednaekim> its in .wine I think
[09:00] <comosicus> that's better
[09:00] <Schuenemann> thanks
[09:00] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: ~/.wine/drive_c/
[09:00] <joaomario> try opening the picture and saving it again with another name. Make sure you choose Jpeg format.
[09:03] <Cris987> hi guys
[09:03] <nosrednaekim> hi
[09:03] <Cris987> i was able to run kontact fine with a new user
[09:03] <Schuenemann> Tm_T, I see no .exe there
[09:03] <Cris987> so a guy on kubuntu-dev says that it must be a config file problem
[09:03] <joaomario> hi, thats great.
[09:04] <Cris987> any clue what i can do to fix that?
[09:04] <Schuenemann> .ocx is windows executable?
[09:04] <comosicus> i was having 3 or 4 question for you in the past...never but never i recived no answere....what are the question that you answere on this channel:"how to turn on my computer?"
[09:04] <comosicus> niceeeee
[09:05] <underdog5004> comosicus, everything ok? anything I can help with?
[09:05] <nosrednaekim> Cris987: delete all the relevant config files in .kde
[09:05] <comosicus> i whant to upload a picture in a site...under my picture is "006.jpg" and under that is "jpeg image"...but when i whant to upload her in to that site i can't do it becous is telling me that my picture is not a jpg standard.....whay?what can i do?
[09:05] <Cris987> ...how do i know which one is relevant?
[09:05] <Schuenemann> nosrednaekim, is ocx an executable?
[09:05] <comosicus> it's not hard but..i so spupid...........
[09:05] <underdog5004> comosicus, try opening the photo with photo editor and saving it as a jpg
[09:05] <comosicus> i'm so stupid
[09:05] <comosicus> i did that
[09:06] <administrator> >	hi everyone, IDK if you remember my problem but basically my system has a problem running terminal, I know so because it doesn't work in kubuntu here or kubuntu LIVE CD, I was told to do a memtest and I did for an hour and got no errors, whats my next step? xterm works but default terminal in kubuntu doesn't and I know its not a configuration issue its something to do with my coputer itself
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> Schuenemann: dunno..
[09:06] <comosicus> i save it "  avaris.jpg  "
[09:06] <comosicus> and nothing
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> administrator: you mean command line mode?
[09:06] <underdog5004> comosicus, then it may be a problem with the website...do they accept any other kind of format?
[09:06] <comosicus> another ideea?!
[09:07] <comosicus> no..that is the only kind of format that they accept
[09:07] <administrator> yes, default terminal under applications > accessories > terminal I click it and I get a blank screen then a screen with text (log stuff saying [ OK ]  etc.) then It goes back to hte login screen
[09:07] <comosicus> but i don't think the problem is theire
[09:07] <comosicus> maybe you have another ideea?
[09:07] <underdog5004> comosicus, weird...in this case, I would say that google is your friend
[09:08] <nosrednaekim> administrator: and what do you need the command line for?
[09:08] <administrator> I need it to work
[09:08] <administrator> Samba, etc...
[09:08] <nosrednaekim> administrator: what are you doning to go to the command line?
[09:08] <comosicus> never let me down...google i mean.... :)
[09:08] <Dakoki> hi
[09:08] <comosicus> thanks
[09:08] <underdog5004> administrator, have you tried installing a different terminal emulator?
[09:08] <Dakoki> somebody knows where are icons stored?
[09:08] <joaomario> bye everyone.... I'm going
[09:08] <underdog5004> administrator, I like rxvt, personally. It's nice and light
[09:08] <administrator> underdog5004, I have xterm
[09:08] <nosrednaekim> Dakoki: some of them are in /usr/share/cons
[09:09] <bonbonthejon> administrator: is it logging out?
[09:09] <Dakoki> ok
[09:09] <Dakoki> thanks
[09:09] <administrator> underdog5004 OK suggestion taken, but how I get rid of the one under accessoreis
[09:09] <administrator> @ bonbonthejon yes
[09:09] <Dakoki> iv got grazy trying to find them
[09:09] <bonbonthejon> administrator: can you open xterm and try running konsole and see what it says
[09:09] <administrator> @ bonbonthejon I click the terminal application under accessories, goes to some sceren with log text on it and logs me out to default login screen
[09:09] <underdog5004> I'm not sure...I don't use gnome...but there should be some kind of panel modification app under System => Administration or Preferences
[09:10] <administrator> @ bonbonthejon it says it isn't installed
[09:10] <bonbonthejon> administrator: wait, this is gnome? you should ask in #kubuntu then
[09:10] <bonbonthejon> s/#kubuntu/@ubuntu
[09:10] <underdog5004> lol, you should ask in #ubuntu
[09:10] <administrator> what is this?
[09:10] <nosrednaekim> this IS #kubuntu
[09:10] <bonbonthejon> I can't type
[09:10] <administrator> Thats what I'm running
[09:10] <Sayers> Do I have a Alarm Clock?
[09:10] <administrator> whats gnome?
[09:10] <administrator> I downloaded and installed Kubuntu
[09:10] <nosrednaekim> administrator: alternative desktop environment
[09:11] <underdog5004> administrator, gnome is a desktop environment
[09:11] <TeraDyne> !gnome
[09:11] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[09:11] <administrator> Kubuntu uses KDE Right?
[09:11] <underdog5004> yup
[09:11] <TeraDyne> yes
[09:11] <administrator> Anyway, why would my terminal be broken?
[09:11] <underdog5004> I thought you were using gnome
[09:11] <administrator> No
[09:11] <underdog5004> ok
[09:11] <administrator> I mean I guess not
[09:11] <administrator> default Kubuntu install
[09:11] <bonbonthejon> administrator: open xterm and run konsole and tell me what it says
[09:11] <administrator> Now whats weird, on LIve CD I have the same problem
[09:11] <underdog5004> maybe you burned the disk on too high of a speed and corrupted that part?
[09:12] <administrator> no
[09:12] <underdog5004> what speed did you burn it at?
[09:12] <administrator> checked the disk
[09:12] <administrator> I validated the integrity and it says its fine
[09:12] <nosrednaekim> administrator: might be something funny with your graphics card.
[09:12] <administrator> ator@Venetia:~$ The program 'konsole' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[09:12] <administrator> bash: The: command not found
[09:12] <obelix_> list
[09:12] <administrator> administrator@Venetia:~$ sudo apt-get install konsole
[09:12] <underdog5004> whoa....
[09:13] <underdog5004> there is something weird there...
[09:13] <bonbonthejon> I didnt think it was possible to uninstall konsole from kde
[09:13] <TeraDyne> administrator: that's really odd. That disk shouldn't have checked out
[09:13] <administrator> it did .... :(
[09:13] <underdog5004> reburn the disk
[09:13] <underdog5004> at 4x
[09:13] <administrator> ok
[09:14] <randoman> anyone know whats causing this
[09:14] <randoman> hi guys, when I go to the system settings,Monitor & Display. It gives me an error " An erro occured during your last kde upgrade leaving an orphaned control module" " you home old thrid party modules lying around"
[09:14] <randoman> ?
[09:15] <BluesKaj> randoman, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:15] <administrator> using this guide BTW http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/06/05/build_your_own_server/1
[09:16] <underdog5004> randoman, did you upgrade to kde4?
[09:16] <bonbonthejon> administrator: you using xubuntu??
[09:17] <BluesKaj> randoman, then sudo aptitude update
[09:17] <randoman> um no
[09:17] <underdog5004> administrator, I read that guide before... I thought it was pretty crappy, personally
[09:17] <randoman> i installed kde-core then kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu 7.04
[09:17] <randoman> k
[09:17] <randoman> thanks guys
[09:17] <randoman> ill try that
[09:18] <administrator> im using xubuntu
[09:18] <TeraDyne> !xubuntu
[09:18] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[09:18] <underdog5004> you said kubuntu
[09:18] <administrator> Wait now I'm confused whats difference between xubuntu and kubuntu
[09:18] <randoman> should i upgrade to kde$
[09:18] <randoman> 4
[09:18] <underdog5004> xubuntu and kubuntu use a different desktop environment
[09:18] <nosrednaekim> randoman: no
[09:18] <TeraDyne> xubuntu uses XFCE, Kubuntu uses KDE
[09:18] <underdog5004> randoman, no it's not ready yet
[09:18] <administrator> @ underdog5004 Any other guides you suggest
[09:18] <underdog5004> administrator, yep...gimme a sec
[09:18] <administrator> so whats better xubuntu or kubuntu
[09:18] <randoman> for sure
[09:19] <randoman> well you guys are genious
[09:19] <randoman> fixed
[09:19] <randoman> :P
[09:19] <BluesKaj> absolutely not ready, randoman
[09:19] <randoman> thanks a million
[09:19] <TeraDyne> administrator: it depends on preference, really. I suggest trying them both.
[09:19] <BluesKaj> good :)
[09:19] <underdog5004> http://howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu704 if you want to use fiesty
[09:20] <GrahamA> administrator: Kubuntu
[09:20] <underdog5004> administrator, I like kubuntu for higher-end machines...xubuntu for lowend machines...cli for servers
[09:21] <underdog5004> I like vanilla ubuntu for nothing...gnome sucks
[09:21] <administrator> I'm trying to run a simple home server
[09:21] <administrator> So CLI is ubuntu distro?
[09:21] <TeraDyne> underdog5004: define "higher-end"
[09:21] <underdog5004> cli == command line interface
[09:21] <nosrednaekim> no... thats what you use then you are on the terminal only
[09:21] <underdog5004> teradyne...proc>=900Mhz with at least 256Mb RAM
[09:22] <administrator> See IDK how to use one of those which is why  http://www.bit-tech.net/bits/2007/06/05/build_your_own_server/1 I think is good for me
[09:22] <nosrednaekim> that sounds about right
[09:22] <TeraDyne> underdog5004: ok.
[09:22] <underdog5004> lol, I'm poor, so that's moderately high-end for me
[09:22] <administrator> I'm on a slow machine and trying to run a server thats why http://howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu704 shouldn't work
[09:22] <underdog5004> administrator, no, it'll work
[09:23] <underdog5004> I've got it installed on a 900Mhz with 512Mb RAM...but it still would with 128Mb RAM
[09:23] <underdog5004> bittorrent client server, mainly
[09:23] <underdog5004> and file server
[09:23] <nosrednaekim> administrator: ok, just follow that tutorial!
[09:23] <administrator> OK thats exactly what I need bittorent and file server
[09:23] <nosrednaekim> administrator: you don't need the base CLI.... xterm will work fine
[09:23] <bonbonthejon> administrator: the howtoforge sets up a CLI server, it would be better than installing XFCE or KDE
[09:23] <administrator> Thats what you use
[09:23] <underdog5004> so go for it
[09:24] <administrator> nosrednaekin I know I'm just trying to find out why it crashes my system
[09:24] <administrator> By helping you guys to fix this anomali
[09:24] <underdog5004> administrator, when you use just the CLI, you free all the resources that would be used by a desktop environment
[09:24] <underdog5004> administrator, did you do memtest86?
[09:24] <nosrednaekim> administrator: ah..ok.
[09:24] <administrator> underdog5004 Yes memtest for 1 hour no errors
[09:24] <administrator> I'm downloading ubuntu server and yes I understand CLI freeing resources
[09:25] <underdog5004> did that test all the ram? what are the stats for the machine?
[09:25] <administrator> However I've never done any sort of CLI before
[09:25] <administrator> uhhhh
[09:25] <administrator> I'm not exactly sure
[09:25] <administrator> How I get stats? What package I need?
[09:25] <underdog5004> lol, better get used to it...it's hard, but once you get it, it's so so valuable
[09:25] <underdog5004> administrator, how fast is the processor, how much ram does it have? those are the two main things.
[09:25] <administrator> @underdog5004 OK will follow that guide
[09:26] <administrator> If I told you I'd be guessing....700 mhz with 128 mb ram
[09:26] <administrator> I'm not exactly sure
[09:26] <administrator> 2 HDD
[09:26] <administrator> Is there way via CLI to find out?
[09:26] <nosrednaekim> administrator: lshw will tell you
[09:26] <underdog5004> administrator, rtorrent for the bittorrent client. it's totally command line based (well, ncurses, which is between a gui and a cli), and super light
[09:26] <underdog5004> administrator, lshw
[09:26] <nosrednaekim> "lshw"
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> or for just cpu "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[09:27] <administrator> 255 mb RAM
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> and for ram "free:
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> *free
[09:27] <underdog5004> free -m
[09:27] <administrator> P III 650 mhz
[09:27] <underdog5004> oh, that'll be plenty fast
[09:27] <administrator> free -m ? Enter that into xterm?
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> thats Xubuntu territory
[09:27] <administrator> really?
[09:28] <nosrednaekim> administrator: yah
[09:28] <ciprian__> hey
[09:28] <administrator>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[09:28] <administrator> Mem:           250        244          5          0          3         82
[09:28] <nosrednaekim> administrator: yeah.... KDE is going to be slow on that.... XFCE hould run fine
[09:28] <administrator> -/+ buffers/cache:        158         91
[09:28] <administrator> Swap:          235         13        221
[09:28] <TeraDyne> !pastebin
[09:28] <ciprian__> anybody know how can i connect on undernet ?!
[09:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:29] <Schuenemann> how can I run a .bat using wine?
[09:29] <underdog5004> Schuenemann, is that a batch file?
[09:29] <Schuenemann> ye
[09:30] <underdog5004> hmmm, try sh batchfile.bat
[09:30] <Schuenemann> a windows batch?
[09:30] <underdog5004> no, no
[09:30] <underdog5004> ummm
[09:30] <underdog5004> wine?
[09:30] <underdog5004> do you have wine installed?
[09:30] <Schuenemann> yes
[09:30] <underdog5004> what does the batch do?
[09:31] <Schuenemann> regsvr32 /s SopCore.ocx
[09:31] <Schuenemann> this
[09:31] <underdog5004> o....k....
[09:31] <underdog5004> wine batchfile.bat
[09:31] <underdog5004> try that
[09:31] <Schuenemann> can't
[09:31] <underdog5004> why?
[09:32] <Schuenemann> it's for .exe only
[09:32] <Schuenemann> Bad EXE format for
[09:32] <underdog5004> oh...darn
[09:32] <underdog5004> what is the function of this batch file?
[09:32] <Schuenemann> it's that line I copied
[09:32] <underdog5004> yeah, but what does it do?
[09:33] <Schuenemann> I dunno
[09:33] <Schuenemann> windows registry it seems
[09:33] <underdog5004> ...
[09:33] <underdog5004> why are you trying to run it?
[09:33] <Schuenemann> it's a program called sopcast
[09:33] <underdog5004> what does it do?
[09:33] <Schuenemann> for watching tv channels p2p
[09:33] <underdog5004> ah
[09:34] <underdog5004> and it won't work with wine?
[09:34] <Schuenemann> there isn't any exe
[09:34] <Schuenemann> just that bat
[09:34] <Schuenemann> there is a DOS program called bat2exe
[09:34] <underdog5004> weird...have you looked around for a linux equivalent? I'm not familiar with sopcast...
[09:34] <Schuenemann> but it's a .com
[09:34] <Schuenemann> I haven't =( and the linux version is in chinese heh
[09:35] <underdog5004> ahahaha, that sucks
[09:35] <alexis> Hi*
[09:35] <nosrednaekim> hi
[09:35] <administrator> Using this guide (http://howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu704_p2) after I install it how would I put this computer in the closet and access it via my main computer...is the possible with CLI and how would I do it, I want to run it headless ASAP
[09:35] <administrator> wait nvm
[09:35] <administrator> I need to run Putty
[09:35] <nosrednaekim> administrator: set up a ssh server
[09:35] <administrator> OK its in the guide
[09:36] <nosrednaekim> and ssh in
[09:36] <underdog5004> administrator, openssh-server
[09:36] <administrator> on the server ssh?
[09:36] <administrator> su apt-get openssh-server?
[09:36] <nosrednaekim> ok
[09:36] <Schuenemann> how can I get rid of this annoying windows grouping in task bar?
[09:36] <underdog5004> administrator, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:37] <administrator> @ Schuenemann right click on bar, properties > its in there
[09:37] <administrator> underdog5004 OK thanks
[09:37] <underdog5004> np
[09:38] <Schuenemann> thanks
[09:38] <underdog5004> I had such a time with my first server
[09:38] <jlund> Schuenemann: Right click on the task bar. Click 'Configure Panel'. Click on 'Taskbar' in the left hand column. Look for the drop-down that says "Group Similar Tasks" and choose Never..
[09:38] <Schuenemann> this settings smells like microsoft
[09:38] <underdog5004> it's fun once everything is working to your satisfaction
[09:38] <administrator> underdog5004 I know this CLI freaks me out
[09:38] <administrator> ;)
[09:38] <underdog5004> !irsii
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about irsii - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <underdog5004> !irssi
[09:38] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help
[09:38] <administrator> ahahhh
[09:39] <administrator> I'll be back then
[09:39] <underdog5004> administrator, alrighty
[09:39] <administrator> thanks so much
[09:39] <underdog5004> I'm here all day
[09:39] <underdog5004> np
[09:39] <underdog5004> just remember to pay it forward
[09:39] <administrator> I'll try, boy this open source utopian free idea has to work its great!!
[09:39] <administrator> long live linux
[09:40] <underdog5004> yep
[09:40] <londo4> Hi there, I have this problem: The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.who can help me?
[09:40] <ardchoille> !fixapt
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[09:40] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:40] <ardchoille> Thank you nosrednaekim
[09:41] <coreymon77> londo4: well, do what it tells you to do
[09:41] <Schuenemann> underdog5004, I converted it to .com
[09:41] <underdog5004> londo4, have you run sudo apt-setup
[09:41] <coreymon77> londo4: run those commands
[09:41] <underdog5004> ?
[09:41] <fritz> hy, i can't get windows running from grub..it says about unrecognizeble command
[09:41] <Schuenemann> the .bat
[09:41] <underdog5004> then do sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:41] <zorglu_> q. what is the web page url to update edgy to feisty ?
[09:41] <underdog5004> !fiesty
[09:41] <ardchoille> !upgrade
[09:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[09:41] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[09:42] <zorglu_> thanks
[09:42] <ardchoille> Gotta love the bot :)
[09:42] <underdog5004> londo4, how's it coming?
[09:42] <fritz> any1?
[09:42] <bonbonthejon> !windows | fritz
[09:42] <ubotu> fritz: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:43] <bonbonthejon> thats not what i wanted
[09:43] <bonbonthejon> !grub | fritz
[09:43] <ubotu> fritz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:43] <bonbonthejon> there
[09:43] <fritz> ok...nevermind that
[09:43] <fritz> i allready got the super grub cd
[09:43] <fritz> it indeed fixed grub so i can run linux
[09:44] <fritz> problem is windows won't load from the grub os menu
[09:44] <londo4> I wil try to open again
[09:44] <SlimeyPete> fritz: does it crash?
[09:45] <underdog5004> londo4, so...did you do the commands?
[09:45] <Schuenemann> fritz, you could use the windows boot cd and fix the boot (will erase the mbr). Then you use that web page to recover grub
[09:45] <jlund> Do any of you guys have alarm notifications working through the Calendar in Kontact? I have tried on two machines now and no messages ever come up.
[09:45] <londo4> yes I did it
[09:45] <fritz> i did that
[09:45] <fritz> and everytime
[09:45] <londo4> but I got the same error
[09:45] <fritz> i reload grub
[09:45] <fritz> windows appears in the list
[09:45] <fritz> but i get
[09:46] <fritz> "unrecognizable comand"
[09:46] <Schuenemann> !lines
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lines - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <fritz> or somth like that
[09:46] <fritz> i was told to edit the menu.lst in order
[09:46] <fritz> to add windows to the grub list
[09:46] <fritz> ....that worked
[09:47] <fritz> ....but windows won't start from there
[09:47] <londo4> underdog5004: how can I open myn source code?
[09:47] <binks> !ati | binks
[09:48] <underdog5004> londo4, I think you misundestand.
[09:48] <underdog5004> What are you trying to do?
[09:49] <londo4> I want to know also how to open it?
[09:50] <underdog5004> londo4, source code for what?
[09:50] <londo4> Ok, lets fixe the problem, I did the command that you told me but it did not work, what can I do next?
[09:51] <oslo> hi , i need to switch back to firefox 1.5 how can i do it ?
[09:52] <underdog5004> I don't know...maybe you should google around and find the fix. I'm not trying to be mean, but using linux doesn't mean being spoon-fed everything.
[09:52] <underdog5004> oslo, sudo apt-get install firefox=1.5
[09:52] <underdog5004> I think that'll work
[09:52] <londo4> omk
[09:52] <underdog5004> londo4, I'm saying google for it because I don't know
[09:52] <fritz> can you give me the webpage for fixing the grub after installing windows again?
[09:52] <londo4> ok
[09:53] <underdog5004> !grub | fritz
[09:53] <ubotu> fritz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:53] <fritz> and if i follow those instructions i should be able to run windows from grub 2
[09:53] <fritz> right?
[09:53] <underdog5004>  yes
[09:54] <fritz> so..i did everything
[09:54] <fritz> like it says there
[09:54] <fritz> and after installing grub from grub super cd
[09:54] <fritz> windows just vanishes
[09:54] <fritz> it doesen't appear in the grub os list
[09:54] <underdog5004> why do you install it from the grub super cd?
[09:54] <fritz> well it's an alternative on the page
[09:54] <fritz> and i thought it 2 be the easyest
[09:55] <underdog5004> I know that booting from the ubuntu cd and typing sudo grub-install will work
[09:55] <underdog5004> I think...
[09:55] <fritz> aha
[09:56] <fritz> do i run kubuntu from the cd live
[09:56] <fritz> or what do you mean booting from cd?
[09:56] <underdog5004> run kubuntu from the livecd
[09:57] <fritz> k
[09:57] <fritz> will do
[10:00] <oslo> underdog5004> E: La version 1.5* de mozilla-firefox n'a pu tre trouve
[10:00] <oslo> it doesnt found the 1.5 one
[10:01] <underdog5004> oslo, you may be able to manually d/l it and install from mozilla.org
[10:03] <oslo> underdog5004> yes, on my way :)
[10:03] <underdog5004> ok
[10:04] <underdog5004> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html
[10:05] <underdog5004> oslo, go to that address
[10:05] <zorglu_> upgrading to feisty... stressfull moment :)
[10:06] <zorglu_> thansk to ubuntu for the good bw tho :)
[10:06] <underdog5004> zorglu_, just make sure you don't have beryl running when you upgrade...i went through that nightmare!
[10:07] <zorglu_> underdog5004: ok :)
[10:07] <oslo> underdog5004> already down but thanks ..the servers are slows :/
[10:07] <zorglu_> 12min remaining... and no beryl :)
[10:07] <underdog5004> oslo, yep
[10:08] <underdog5004> adios, gotta go to the park w/ my gf...if anyone sees administrator, tell him I'll be back in an hour or so.
[10:12] <ForrestF> ive got Kubuntu 6.06.1 "Dapper Drake" - Release i386
[10:12] <ForrestF> and my IBM NetVista with a p3 933mhz keeps restarting when i try to boot the livecd
[10:13] <TeraDyne> ForrestF: how much RAM does it have?
[10:13] <ForrestF> 256
[10:14] <zorglu_> ForrestF: this is a 'low end' computer, you may try more recent and less hungry. e.g. xubuntu7.04
[10:14] <zipper> I accidently removed the upper menu (File - edit - settings and so on) from Amarok... Any way for me to get it back?
[10:14] <zorglu_> ForrestF: in case you got trouble with kuybuntu 6.06 i mean
[10:14] <blizzzek> i have a similar notebook running kubuntu 7.04
[10:14] <nosrednaekim> zipper: try alt.
[10:14] <nosrednaekim> not sure... I lost that once..
[10:14] <ForrestF> but i never get to the splash screen (loading screen after hitting run livecd_
[10:14] <zipper> nosrednaekim, "alt" alone does nothing =/
[10:15] <blizzzek> zipper: ctrl+m
[10:15] <Istrain> ForrestF - has your CD (or DVD) worked in another PC.??  Just wondering if your disc is bad.
[10:15] <zipper> blizzzek, uuh wicked, thanks
[10:15] <ForrestF> yes
[10:15] <blizzzek> you're welcome
[10:15] <zorglu_> ForrestF: this smell like bootoption
[10:15] <nosrednaekim> zipper: "ctrl+M"
[10:15] <zipper> nosrednaekim, yeah, blizzzek just told me that :)... Thanks
[10:16] <nosrednaekim> ah... blizzzek.. too fast for me.
[10:16] <nosrednaekim> I had to go remove it to see if it worked.
[10:16] <gvenos> hi there
[10:16] <ForrestF> nosrednaekim:im going to try my 6.06 disk i got for free from you guys
[10:16] <gvenos> how are you Guys?
[10:16] <nosrednaekim> great
[10:16] <nosrednaekim> ForrestF: we don't work for kubuntu!
[10:16] <ForrestF> LOL
[10:17] <ForrestF> its a ubuntu disk, and it did crash blah
[10:17] <gvenos> tell me about ubuntu
[10:17] <gvenos> i am a new user of
[10:17] <zorglu_> ForrestF: do you have another computer ? something more recent ?
[10:17] <nosrednaekim> gvenos: you installed it?
[10:17] <ForrestF> ForrestF: nope,
[10:17] <gvenos> yes
[10:17] <ForrestF> lol
[10:18] <gvenos> 2 weeks now
[10:18] <ForrestF> im going to try safe gfx mode
[10:18] <nosrednaekim> gvenos: is it working well?
[10:18] <zorglu_> 1min...
[10:18] <gvenos> and i passed Kubuntu-desktop via synaptic Package manager
[10:18] <ForrestF> wow its crashing reall fast
[10:18] <gvenos> yes without problems
[10:19] <jlund> Does anyone here use reminders through the Calendar in Kontact? On two different machines the alarm notifications never show up.
[10:19] <ForrestF> what is athe vga mode for 800x600
[10:19] <nosrednaekim> ForrestF: boot without splash
[10:19] <ForrestF> k
[10:19] <zorglu_> ForrestF: do you have another computer ? something more recent ?
[10:19] <ForrestF> No
[10:19] <zorglu_> ForrestF: here im missing something. how is that posxible ? you try live cd and you stay on irc... with a single computer ?
[10:20] <gvenos> why NO Forrest
[10:20] <ForrestF> well it got to what looks like ISAPNP and then goes blank
[10:20] <zorglu_> !tab | ForrestF
[10:20] <ubotu> ForrestF: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[10:20] <gvenos> some mystake
[10:20] <zorglu_> 0sec!
[10:20] <ForrestF> zorglu_: im on a IBM thinkpad with 64 megs of ram :)
[10:20] <zorglu_> ForrestF: you should google to get the boot option such as noacpi
[10:21] <fritz> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp...going desperate here...everythime i reinstall grub windows just doesen't appear in that list:((....i install it using super grub cd
[10:21] <fritz> and i should get the option of running windows 2
[10:21] <fritz> :((
[10:21] <londo4> source-list open
[10:21] <ForrestF> zorglu_: from what i can tell it crashes at PCI-PNP setup
[10:22] <gvenos> i made my ubuntu like vista
[10:22] <daminator> hi! i want to reinstall linux on my notebook soon. i've heared that there is already a version of kubuntu 7.10
[10:22] <daminator> is it alpha or beta?
[10:22] <zorglu_> ForrestF: well you should try the boot options
[10:22] <gvenos> and mouse cursor too
[10:22] <crdlb> daminator, alpha
[10:22] <ForrestF> i tried noacpi
[10:22] <nosrednaekim> gvenos: yeah so did I
[10:22] <daminator> and where there will be a beta?
[10:22] <gvenos> it is very nice now
[10:22] <gvenos> nice enviroment
[10:23] <nosrednaekim> daminator: beat is probably in at least august
[10:23] <nosrednaekim> *beta
[10:23] <zorglu_> mouaouaou downloading feisty is 14min, but installing downloaded pacakge is 40min :)
[10:23] <daminator> oh... ok that's a long time...^^ then i will install again 7.04 :)
[10:23] <ForrestF> ok im getting some where, its going out of mode for my mointer, what is the vga code for 800x600 (safe value)
[10:23] <nosrednaekim> daminator: yeah... although I've heard the aplha of 710 is pretty stable
[10:24] <fritz> any1
[10:24] <fritz> ?
[10:24] <nosrednaekim> ForrestF: boot splash=silent
[10:24] <fritz> ...help?
[10:24] <gvenos> you need help fritz?
[10:24] <fritz> yes
[10:24] <fritz> ...
[10:24] <gvenos> abiut?
[10:24] <gvenos> about?
[10:24] <daminator> yea but i'm new to linux and i really don't want to play with any bugs and this... ;)
[10:24] <fritz> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp...going desperate here...everythime i reinstall grub windows just doesen't appear in that list:((....i install it using super grub cd
[10:25] <fritz> and i should get the option of running windows 2
[10:25] <ForrestF> odd, i found out what it is, i need a ps/2 mouse installed.......
[10:25] <gvenos> you had install ubuntu 7.04?
[10:25] <fritz> yes
[10:25] <gvenos> and what is wrong?
[10:25] <nosrednaekim> fritz: did you try #ubuntu?
[10:25] <fritz> i installed windows after
[10:26] <fritz> and lost grub
[10:26] <daminator> another question: is there any game like nethack (this style or like diablo) but for multiplayer?
[10:26] <gvenos> on the same partision?
[10:26] <rajkalyan> who banned me
[10:26] <fritz> after reinstalling grub
[10:26] <fritz> i lost the capacity to load windows
[10:26] <gvenos> on the same partision?
[10:26] <fritz> no
[10:26] <fritz> different partitions
[10:26] <ubuntu> p
[10:26] <gvenos> you have your HD on paretision?
[10:26] <zorglu_> !grub| fritz
[10:26] <ubotu> fritz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:26] <TeraDyne> fritz: that's your problem. You need to manually re-add the windows entry.
[10:27] <fritz> i tryed
[10:27] <gvenos> HD partision size?
[10:27] <zorglu_> fritz: reading that may help you i think
[10:27] <fritz> rewriting
[10:27] <fritz> i allready read that 1000x times
[10:27] <fritz> 8-|
[10:27] <fritz> TeraDyne
[10:27] <gvenos> nice
[10:27] <fritz> TeraDyne i tryed rewriting the menu.lst
[10:27] <fritz> and indeed the windows option appears
[10:28] <gvenos> so reinstall  ubuntu
[10:28] <fritz> but it can't load from it
[10:28] <gvenos> and install again
[10:28] <gvenos> then load your drivers
[10:28] <TeraDyne> fritz: did you point it to the right partition?
[10:28] <fritz> well dunno:(
[10:28] <fritz> i'm a newb at linux
[10:28] <TeraDyne> !pastebin
[10:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:28] <fritz> the guy just said
[10:28] <gvenos> the partision for ubuntu must be totally empty
[10:29] <TeraDyne> use that and post the contents of your menu.lst
[10:29] <gvenos> it was fritz?
[10:29] <TeraDyne> and tell me what partition you installed windows on.
[10:29] <fritz> to uncomment the things after "exemples" in the menu.lst
[10:29] <fritz> and i did and it doesen't work
[10:30] <fritz> well kubuntu is on c
[10:30] <gvenos> your partition was totally epmty?
[10:30] <fritz> i have a swap
[10:30] <gvenos> empty?
[10:30] <fritz> and windows is on D
[10:30] <fritz> which is formatted ntfs
[10:30] <nosrednaekim> fritz: of course not...you have to change the drive number
[10:30] <nosrednaekim> so windows is your third partition?
[10:30] <fritz> yes
[10:30] <gvenos> your windows is on NTFS
[10:31] <fritz> nosrednaekim
[10:31] <nosrednaekim> fritz: yes
[10:31] <dale> dOes anyone know any dock like apps?
[10:31] <fritz> please point out a more detailed set of instructions
[10:31] <TeraDyne> use "sudo fdisk -l" in a terminal and tell me what the line that says "ntfs" says
[10:31] <dale> like in osx
[10:32] <gvenos> try how to install ubuntu
[10:32] <gvenos> kanenas apo ellada re paidia?
[10:32] <hanubuntu> i had to reinstall ubuntu because i couldn't install radeon9250 drivers
[10:32] <coreymon77> dale: kdocker?
[10:32] <banksey> Anyone know any good P2P Programs for Kubuntu?
[10:33] <fritz> TeraDyne
[10:33] <TeraDyne> banksey: aMule and Frostwire
[10:33] <dale> Kdocker docks the currently running apps. I want launchers.
[10:33] <fritz> TeraDyne
[10:33] <TeraDyne> fritz: ?
[10:33] <banksey> :Teradyne, Ty
[10:33] <fritz> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[10:33] <fritz> /dev/hda1   *           1         663     5325516   83  Linux
[10:33] <fritz> /dev/hda2             664        5005    34877115    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[10:33] <fritz> /dev/hda3             701        1338     5124703+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[10:33] <fritz> /dev/hda5             664         700      297139+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[10:33] <fritz> /dev/hda6            1339        3786    19663528+   b  W95 FAT32
[10:33] <fritz> /dev/hda7            3787        5005     9791586    b  W95 FAT32
[10:33] <fritz> this is what i get
[10:34] <TeraDyne> ok. And no one use the pastebin command. Fritz, hold on just a sec
[10:34] <PriceChild> !paste > fritz (see pm from ubotu)
[10:34] <fritz> i'm not allowed to use paste here?
[10:35] <blizzzek> fritz: for large pastest please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:35] <banksey> !amule
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amule - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <TeraDyne> Fritz, on the line for the windows option in the menu.lst file, the one underneath "examples", there is a line that says "root", and beside it, is a part that says "(hd0,0)", right?
[10:36] <Istrain>  I wondered what that meant in the topic
[10:36] <fritz> let me see
[10:36] <rajkalyan> can somwone whwlp me
[10:37] <gdiebel> dale: kde-apps.org search for dock
[10:37] <fritz> yes
[10:37] <fritz> yes it is
[10:37] <TeraDyne> change that to read (hd0,2)
[10:37] <TeraDyne> you should be able to get into windws after that
[10:38] <fritz> ok...and in the future
[10:38] <fritz> how will i know
[10:38] <fritz> how to do that...?
[10:38] <nosrednaekim> rajkalyan: sure ask away
[10:38] <blizzzek> rajkalyan: just post your question/problem
[10:38] <fritz> what\s the ideea beneath it?
[10:38] <TeraDyne> The first physical drive is "0", and the first partition is "0". go up from there
[10:38] <nosrednaekim> fritz: that means that your windows partition is on the third partition of the first disc
[10:39] <fritz> aha:-?
[10:39] <TeraDyne> oh, and things like "hda1" shows what partition it is.
[10:41] <nosrednaekim> but grub is funny because hd0 in grub is the same as hda in linux
[10:41] <rajkalyan> yo peoples
[10:41] <nosrednaekim> and hda1 is hd0,1 which is the same as C:/ in windows
[10:41] <nosrednaekim> rajkalyan: yo
[10:41] <rajkalyan> uo
[10:42] <enry> good night!
[10:43] <TeraDyne> nosrednaekim: you're wrong there.
[10:43] <TeraDyne> nosrednaekim: hda1 is partition one, or hd0,0
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> you're right!
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> whoos
[10:43] <nosrednaekim> *whoops
[10:44] <dale> What distros are using kde 4 already?
[10:44] <nosrednaekim> dale: none... suse has it though
[10:44] <TeraDyne> dale: none as far as I know. It's alpha software, so it's in early testing
[10:45] <fritz> THX GUYS...TERADYNE ESPECIALLY...IT WORKS :D (sorry 4 caps ^.^ )
[10:45] <TeraDyne> dale: well, there is a LiveCD of KDE4. Let me get the link.
[10:45] <TeraDyne> no problem, fritz
[10:46] <devnull> that kde4 live cd is god awful lol
[10:46] <TeraDyne> dale: http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/
[10:46] <devnull> its based on suse.
[10:46] <nosrednaekim> fritz: cool
[10:46] <dale> Thanks
[10:46] <t1g3r> hey all
[10:46] <nosrednaekim> 'lo
[10:46] <t1g3r> any idea why kaffeine wouldnt play any vids?
[10:47] <t1g3r> ive just finished basic install of kubuntu 7.04
[10:47] <nosrednaekim> t1g3r: what kinds of videos?
[10:47] <t1g3r> havent had a chance to download any packages yet
[10:47] <t1g3r> avi
[10:47] <nosrednaekim> t1g3r: yeah.. you need codecs
[10:47] <nosrednaekim> !avi
[10:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:47] <ohmbr> hi, is there a way to set a mod of a folder like 'force direcotry mode' in smb? I want that all files that will be created be with that mod...
[10:48] <nosrednaekim> ohmbr: if you mean set permissions.. yes
[10:48] <t1g3r> ah cheers, google wasnt as helpful, only got 3 results lol
[10:48] <ohmbr> nosrednaekim: yes... how can i do it?
[10:48] <nosrednaekim> ohmbr: right click on the folder in konqueror
[10:48] <nosrednaekim> properties
[10:48] <dale> The new amorak look uglllllllly
[10:48] <nosrednaekim> permissions
[10:49] <nosrednaekim> dale: yeah... I know... I think you can use the previos look though
[10:49] <devnull> Any kernel of the day service or more recent kernels anywhere by chance?
[10:49] <TeraDyne> dale: I know. I'm considering making some Pokemon theme icons and recompiling it.
[10:49] <dale> ;P
[10:49] <TeraDyne> nosrednaekim: If you find out how, tell me.
[10:50] <nosrednaekim> TeraDyne: I just heard it mentioned somewhere
[10:50] <devnull> pokemon o.O
[10:51] <TeraDyne> devnull: yes. I happen to be a long time fan.
[10:52] <TeraDyne> nosrednaekim: I looked through all of the options. There doesn't seem to be any way to, besides recompiling, anyway.
[10:53] <nosrednaekim> TeraDyne: hmmm
[10:59] <Istrain>  ne1 have a recommendation of newbie-friendly dead-trees for Ubuntu.??  I am looking at three (2006 & 2007) at amazon.com
[11:00] <t1g3r> u guys know of any resources on the web which list out most usb modem drivers for linux? if not kubuntu? :<
[11:00] <Schuenemann> dead trees?
[11:00] <t1g3r> ive been searching for hours
[11:01] <Istrain>  I meant Kubuntu
[11:01] <Schuenemann> what are dead trees?
[11:01] <binks> how can i make root on mysql have no pass again
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> haha "books"
[11:01] <Schuenemann> oh... never heard that expression before
[11:01] <binks> nosrednaekim: real bad but i like
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> t1g3r: no clue
[11:02] <rajkalyan> elp pleaaes
[11:02] <Istrain>  dead trees = books
[11:02] <t1g3r> no worries
[11:02] <Schuenemann> because of the paper?
[11:02] <binks> rajkalyan: sup m8 ask away
[11:02] <TeraDyne> Istrain: The Official Ubuntu Book and Ubuntu Desktop Hacks are both good.
[11:03] <Istrain>  Schuenemann - because I can take a book anywhere, and it is easier on my aging eyes.
[11:03] <TeraDyne> Istrain: both have sections on Kubuntu, IIRC.
[11:04] <banksey> Hey guys, I need Java for Limwire/Frostwire, But Java isn't supported for Kunbuntu, Any ideas anyone?
[11:04] <banksey> !java
[11:04] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:04] <rajkalyan> thank you
[11:04] <Schuenemann> of course it is supported
[11:05] <Istrain>  TeraDyne - thanks
[11:05] <Schuenemann> banksey, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[11:05] <TeraDyne> Istrain: no problem.
[11:05] <Tachyon> I've got a new Dell Inspiron 6400 with Vista and I want to install Kubuntu 7.04 alongside.  Just wondering if anyone's had any experience with this either way.
[11:06] <Schuenemann> Tachyon, it doesn't matter the windows version
[11:06] <Schuenemann> windows won't even know about it
[11:06] <devnull> Tachyon: do you have 2 drives?
[11:06] <Tachyon> I do not
[11:06] <coreymon77> Sch] 
[11:07] <Tachyon> I'm partitioning, which is why I'm asking
[11:07] <devnull> Hmm I'm not sure about vista really
[11:07] <coreymon77> Schuenemann: its not that windows will not know about it
[11:07] <devnull> the vista bootloader is a pain in the arse
[11:07] <rajkalyan> help please
[11:07] <Schuenemann> what is it?
[11:07] <coreymon77> Schuenemann: its that windows will not 	 want 	 to know about it
[11:07] <rajkalyan> my pcs stuck
[11:07] <rajkalyan> kubuntu
[11:07] <rajkalyan> edgy
[11:07] <Tachyon> devnull: Can't I just use Grub?
[11:08] <Schuenemann> coreymon77, but he will install vista first, right?
[11:08] <dale> Has vista been perminatly crcked yet?
[11:08] <TeraDyne> rajkalyan: please be more specific
[11:08] <Schuenemann> it won't overwrite the boot
[11:08] <BluesKaj> Tachyon, install Kubuntu on a seperate partition, then bootinto vista download Easy BCD1.60 andyou can setup both vista and kubuntu to boot from the loader that it installs after you set it up
[11:08] <Istrain>  ... until M$ develops a L
[11:08] <binks> how can i reset the pas for root in mysql
[11:08] <devnull> rajkalyan: you can start by asking a question.
[11:08] <banksey> Schuenemann:
[11:08] <banksey> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:08] <banksey>   limewire-basic: Depends: sun-java5-jre but it is not going to be installed or
[11:08] <banksey>                            sun-java6-jre but it is not going to be installed or
[11:08] <banksey>                            sun-java5-jdk but it is not going to be installed or
[11:08] <banksey>                            sun-java6-jdk but it is not going to be installed
[11:08] <banksey> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[11:08] <banksey> Any ideas?
[11:09] <devnull> whoa whoa whoa
[11:09] <devnull> pastebin please.
[11:09] <Schuenemann> banksey, install java
[11:09] <binks> banksey: not in here www.pastebin.org
[11:09] <Istrain>  ... until M$ develops a "Linux killer" critical update =:--{0
[11:09] <TeraDyne> !paste | banksey
[11:09] <ubotu> banksey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Tachyon, i did it a few days ago and it worked well.
[11:09] <QwertMan> When you launch the Ubuntu installer off of the trial CD, does it automatically install on your C disk, or will I have the option to install it on my flash drive?
[11:09] <banksey> Schuenemann: I just tried :P
[11:09] <jinx_> #edubuntu
[11:10] <Schuenemann> banksey, I told you to install using apt-get, was that what you tried?
[11:10] <devnull> banksey: and the problem is this
[11:10] <londo4> Hi there, how can I Edit Kubuntu Source.list?
[11:10] <devnull> when you installed java it should have asked you to accept an agreement
[11:10] <TeraDyne> banksey: use "sudo apt-get -f install"
[11:10] <devnull> if you used Adept, you have to make sure you scroll to the bottom and check a box.
[11:10] <jinx_> I ran into the same thing today installing java
[11:11] <devnull> same the other day lol
[11:11] <banksey> Nope, I jus got the above when I tried to install...
[11:11] <TeraDyne> londo4: type "kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:11] <jinx_> You need to scroll all the way down
[11:11] <TeraDyne> in a terminal
[11:11] <BluesKaj> londo4, alt+f2, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:11] <devnull> rajkalyan: please don't pm me to ask for help, do it in the channel.
[11:12] <londo4> Thanks
[11:12] <Tachyon> How large a swap partition should I have?
[11:12] <TeraDyne> devnull: XD I was wondering why he went quiet
[11:12] <devnull> 2x RAM
[11:12] <TeraDyne> Tachyon: How much ram do you have
[11:12] <devnull> That is what I usually do
[11:12] <ardchoille> Tachyon: 2 x your ram, but no more than 2gb.. or else it's a waste.
[11:12] <Schuenemann> 2x RAM? I think that varies
[11:12] <TeraDyne> devnull: I usually have 1.5x
[11:12] <devnull> But if you have over 1GB of ram, 1GB of swap will do.
[11:12] <Tachyon> I've got 2 GB RAM
[11:13] <ardchoille> I have 2Gb ram and I don't think I've ever used my swap
[11:13] <Schuenemann> people (here) told me to use 1 GB, and I have 384 RAM
[11:13] <devnull> Then 1GB will more than do it.
[11:13] <underdog5004> I've got a gig of ram, and I only touch swap when I 've got a VM going
[11:13] <underdog5004> although swap is nice to have to fall back on
[11:13] <TeraDyne> Who asked the mysql password?
[11:13] <devnull> dunno if Im using mine at the moment or not ^_^
[11:14] <devnull> can't remember the interface to lmsensors
[11:14] <BluesKaj> yup 1gig is plenty for anyone
[11:14] <TeraDyne> password question*
[11:14] <underdog5004> BluesKaj, unless you're running vista
[11:14] <ardchoille> Yeah, 1Gb swap should be good.
[11:15] <BluesKaj> we're talking linux , here underdog5004 , not a some bloated halfbaked blind animal
[11:15] <Schuenemann> hahaha
[11:15] <underdog5004> lol
[11:15] <BluesKaj> :)
[11:15] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: lol
[11:15] <TeraDyne> binks: Are you still needing help with your MySQL question
[11:15] <BluesKaj> i trtied vista for one day ...what a waste of time and good disk space
[11:16] <Schuenemann> I would sell my vista copy if I could
[11:16] <devnull> BluesKaj: I used vlite to strip it to the bone
[11:16] <devnull> its not bad when you get rid of all the bloated garbage
[11:16] <Fable> i am trying to install AVG antivirus but it seems like i got myself stuck in GNU nano and i dont know how to save or exit.
[11:16] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: I stopped using Windows back in 2001 when I finally realised M$ would never get it right.
[11:16] <Tachyon> I like Vista's interface, but its behaviour after less than a week has annoyed me.
[11:16] <underdog5004> BluesKaj, I work in a computer store, and I have to help people who screw up their vista boxes, or just don't know how to use it...it really _really_ stinks
[11:16] <Tachyon> Which is all the more reason to cozy up to Kubuntu
[11:16] <Schuenemann> Tachyon, have you heard about beryl or compiz?
[11:16] <TeraDyne> !offtopic
[11:16] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:17] <Tachyon> I've heard of Beryl
[11:17] <devnull> I like beryl
[11:17] <BluesKaj> Tachyon, the constant annoying security popups and admin this and that
[11:17] <Tachyon> I've never tried it because my old laptop would have collapsed into a black hole
[11:17] <Tachyon> Oh, I disabled all the security stuff in Vista
[11:17] <devnull> I turn that crap off.
[11:17] <ardchoille> haha
[11:17] <Schuenemann> Beryl + touchscreen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx9FgLr9oTk&mode=related&search=
[11:17] <Schuenemann> on linux, of course
[11:18] <devnull> of course..
[11:18] <devnull> lol
[11:18] <Fable>  i am trying to install AVG antivirus but it seems like i got myself stuck in GNU nano and i dont know how to save or exit so that i get it listed under system tools in the kmenu.
[11:18] <BluesKaj> yeah, still din't recognize my tvtuner card and the sound quit for some unknown reason and no apps or drivers available for my needs
[11:18] <devnull> why in the hell do you need an antivirus Fable?
[11:19] <Fable> i have a virus
[11:19] <Fable> somehow
[11:19] <devnull> LOL
[11:19] <binks> TeraDyne: yes
[11:19] <Schuenemann> AVG is for windows' virus, right?
[11:19] <Fable> yes
[11:19] <Istrain>  Tachyon - I tried to bail on Win 95, but Open Linux 1.3 defeated me.
[11:19] <Schuenemann> like, not passing viruses to your windows friends
[11:19] <TeraDyne> binks: I messeged you the link, did you get it?
[11:19] <devnull> Then why are you asking that here?
[11:20] <Fable> because i dont have windows
[11:20] <rajkalyan> #ubuntu-in
[11:20] <binks> TeraDyne: yes thanks alot
[11:20] <Fable> i completely uninstalled it
[11:20] <TeraDyne> binks: no problem
[11:20] <devnull> Fable: save in nano is Ctrl+O, and Ctrl+X to exit
[11:20] <Schuenemann> you made the right choice, Fable
[11:20] <Fable> thank you
[11:20] <devnull> I have vista x64 version installed
[11:21] <devnull> but I use it... once in a blue moon
[11:21] <Schuenemann> devnull, have you seen that video of the touchscreen? it's cool
[11:21] <devnull> I'll check it out in a sec
[11:21] <londo4> Hi there, I try to install something and I get this message: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) What can be the problem?
[11:21] <zorglu_> hmm ok my feisty upgrade got some issues
[11:21] <devnull> londo4: use sudo
[11:21] <Schuenemann> devnull, it's impresive how he pull or push the screen and  the desktop is switched
[11:22] <underdog5004> !offtopic
[11:22] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:22] <londo4> devnull: yes sudo apt-get install, I did it but I get thes message:E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:22] <devnull> londo4: do you have adept open?
[11:23] <londo4> devnull: no
[11:23] <devnull> londo4: any other package managers by chance?
[11:23] <londo4> devnull: no
[11:24] <devnull> londo4: hmm can't remember how to fix a db lock in debian
[11:24] <devnull> could -f or --force
[11:25] <zorglu_> !fix-adept
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix-adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <zorglu_> !adept-fix
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <underdog5004> or just rm the lock file
[11:25] <TeraDyne> !fix-apt
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix-apt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <zorglu_> ok something like that :)
[11:25] <londo4> devnull: Ok
[11:25] <TeraDyne> !aptfix | londo4
[11:25] <ubotu> londo4: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:26] <Schuenemann> anyone knows which repository has pidgin (formerlly knows as gaim) ?
[11:27] <ardchoille> !info pidgin
[11:27] <devnull> !pidgin
[11:27] <ubotu> Package pidgin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:27] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[11:28] <TeraDyne> http://www.debuntu.org/pidgin-2.0.0-deb-ubuntu-feisty-fawn
[11:28] <TeraDyne> Found that thanks to google
[11:28] <zorglu_> ok my feisty fails during the boot, i mean it boot but end up in text terminal, without reaching the kdm.. is there a way to know all the log generated by the boot ?
[11:28] <devnull> zorglu_: probly an xserver problem
[11:29] <devnull> do a nano /var/log/xorg.0.log
[11:29] <devnull> or you can do a cat /var/log/xorg.0.log | grep (EE)
[11:29] <Schuenemann> TeraDyne, thanks
[11:30] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann: No problem
[11:30] <zorglu_> devnull: ok looking
[11:30] <TeraDyne> devnull: That should be "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[11:30] <devnull> yeah my bad
[11:31] <devnull> zorglu_: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep (EE)
[11:31] <zorglu_> devnull: Parse error on line 151 of section Extensions in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf <- doesnt smell good :)
[11:31] <devnull> now pastebin your xorg.conf file zorglu_
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[11:31] <Schuenemann> TeraDyne, is it safe to trust such repositories?
[11:31] <devnull> !paste @ zorglu_
[11:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste @ zorglu_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:31] <devnull> !paste | zorglu_
[11:31] <ubotu> zorglu_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:32] <zorglu_>     Option "Composite" "true" <- devnull this is line 151
[11:32] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann: No idea. I rarely add much in the way of 3rd party repos.
[11:32] <zorglu_> devnull: i think i added that for beryl
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> zorglu_: Beryl rocks hard
[11:32] <devnull> zorglu_:
[11:32] <devnull> Section "Extensions"
[11:32] <devnull>         Option "Composite" "Enable"
[11:32] <devnull> EndSection
[11:32] <Schuenemann> TeraDyne, maybe backports has it?
[11:33] <londo4> devnull:  I`loking for NMAP DO you know where I can find for kuntuntu?
[11:33] <zorglu_> devnull: ah ok will try. i just tried to remove it and now 'startx' works
[11:33] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann: Again, no idea.
[11:34] <devnull> londo4: sudo apt-get install nmap
[11:34] <devnull> lol
[11:34] <zorglu_> devnull: ok enable works too :)
[11:34] <devnull> zorglu_: :)
[11:35] <devnull> londo4: if you need a frontend you can also: sudo apt-get install nmapfe
[11:35] <zorglu_> rebooting to get a 'full cycle' :)
[11:35] <londo4> devnull: I get this message E: Could not find package nmap
[11:35] <zorglu_> this is in this kind of time that i like to have 2 laptops :)
[11:35] <Schuenemann> !backpors
[11:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backpors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <Schuenemann> !backports
[11:36] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[11:36] <devnull> londo4:  o.O
[11:36] <devnull> londo4: type: aptitude search nmap
[11:38] <londo4> devnull:  it did not show anything
[11:39] <devnull> !nmap
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <devnull> !info nmap
[11:40] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.20-1 (feisty), package size 732 kB, installed size 2644 kB
[11:40] <devnull> check your sources.list
[11:41] <marko> nothing to read here :)
[11:42] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann: I see pidgin in the archive.ubuntu.com "main" pool, but it doesn't show up when I use "aptitude search pidgin"
[11:43] <binks> TeraDyne: sorry been havin my tea that worked a treat cheers (mysql0
[11:43] <londo4> devnull: my source.list is open
[11:43] <Schuenemann> TeraDyne, I'm thinking about compiling it from source
[11:44] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann: That would probably be the best way right now.
[11:44] <devnull> !main
[11:44] <Schuenemann> a compilation from source being the best way scares me
[11:44] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:44] <devnull> compiling from source isn't bad
[11:44] <devnull> check that londo4
[11:45] <Schuenemann> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler
[11:45] <londo4> devnull:  I cant find anything about nmap
[11:45] <Schuenemann> I don't have gcc?
[11:46] <devnull> -_-
[11:46] <crimsun> Schuenemann: installed build-essential ?
[11:46] <underdog5004> Schuenemann, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:46] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann: "sudo aptitude install build-essential"
[11:46] <TeraDyne> Hat Trick!
[11:46] <Schuenemann> nope... I thought it wasn't required because 'make' worked ;p
[11:46] <Lars_G> Who is responsible for automounting usb media? udev? kde?
[11:46] <devnull> londo4: go into adept, click Adept->Manage Repositories
[11:47] <devnull> click all the dag on boxes and hit ok
[11:49] <londo4> devnull: Iam On Adept->Manage Repositories
[11:50] <devnull> londo4: check the boxes next the the categories and hit OK/Apply or whatever it is, let it update your cache and then try to install it again.
[11:51] <londo4> devnull:  Ok
[11:52] <TeraDyne> devnull: Don't you have to click "fetch updates" to update the package listing?
[11:52] <TeraDyne> in adept, of course.
[11:53] <devnull> TeraDyne: nah
[11:53] <devnull> it auto does it after you change the repos settings
[11:53] <Schuenemann> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[11:53] <Schuenemann> what now?
[11:53] <TeraDyne> devnull: ah, ok. Never noticed that before.
[11:55] <Istrain>  C U all l8r
[11:55] <Schuenemann> I installed build-essential and got that parse error now
[11:55] <BluesKa1> pidgin eh, heh strange lil app this
[11:55] <Schuenemann> and ugly name too :-)
[11:56] <TeraDyne> Personally, I never liked Gaim, so I doubt I'll like pidgin.
[11:57] <BluesKa1> has my nick wrong for one
[11:57] <Schuenemann> what do you use for ICQ or gtalk?
[11:57] <Schuenemann> if you use them
[11:57] <Tm_T> Kopete <3
[11:57] <BluesKa1> typed it correctly everywhere else in the app why does have the #1 in it ?
[11:57] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann: Kopete
[11:57] <Schuenemann> kopete... :-/
[11:58] <Lars_G> Who is responsible for automounting usb media? udev or kde?
[11:58] <devnull> hmmm compiz-fusion?
[11:58] <UbuntuServerUser> can someone clarify how to do these instructions (http://howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu704_p3?s=780e372373a12eedcb161a5a0d7e289a&) Edit /etc/apt/sources.list. Comment out or remove the installation CD from the file and make sure that the universe and multiverse repositories are enabled. It should look like this:
[11:59] <UbuntuServerUser> How do I edit vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:59] <blizzzek> UbuntuServerUser: you need root rights
[11:59] <devnull> dont use vi.
[11:59] <devnull> I HATE vi with a passion
[11:59] <UbuntuServerUser> I'm in root
[11:59] <devnull> just use nano
[11:59] <UbuntuServerUser> I'm in via SSH
[11:59] <TeraDyne> UbuntuServerUser: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:00] <devnull> just use nano UbuntuServerUser.
[12:00] <stdin> UbuntuServerUser: use nano, it's much easier
[12:00] <jhutchins_lt> UbuntuServerUser: use sudo:  sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:00] <stdin> jhutchins_lt: huh??
[12:00] <UbuntuServerUser> use nano or vi?
[12:00] <devnull> !compiz-fusion
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz-fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <UbuntuServerUser> I don't need the sudo register if i'm root right?
[12:00] <jhutchins_lt> !sudo | UbuntuServerUser
[12:00] <stdin> jhutchins_lt: ahh, didn't see the :
[12:00] <ubotu> UbuntuServerUser: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:01] <TeraDyne> !root
[12:01] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:01] <jhutchins_lt> UbuntuServerUser: Oh, no, you don't.
[12:01] <jhutchins_lt> TeraDyne: That's a good one too.
[12:01] <UbuntuServerUser> in ssh I'm root@mycomputer:
[12:01] <devnull> lol
[12:01] <stdin> UbuntuServerUser: sudo isn't needed then
[12:01] <devnull> I made a root password
[12:01] <jhutchins_lt> UbuntuServerUser: Ah, I see the actual question.
[12:02] <devnull> I enjoy using su from time to time
[12:02] <jhutchins_lt> UbuntuServerUser: vi is an editor, so the command is vi <filename>
[12:02] <Schuenemann> You must have the GLib 2.0 development headers installed to build.
[12:02] <Schuenemann> what package is that?
[12:02] <UbuntuServerUser> Ah, ok im using nano now
[12:02] <UbuntuServerUser> vi is weird I can't edit anything
[12:03] <stdin> UbuntuServerUser: If you want to use vi, but don't know how, look at "man vi" but nano is simpler
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuServerUser: try changing to edit mode and not command mode
[12:03] <jhutchins_lt> UbuntuServerUser: vi is The Way, The Truth, and The Light
[12:03] <UbuntuServerUser> Wait, nano I can't edit anything either
[12:03] <UbuntuServerUser> nvm letme figure this out
[12:03] <jhutchins_lt> UbuntuServerUser: Might as well learn to use vi then.
[12:03] <devnull> !fusion
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fusion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <jhutchins_lt> !vi
[12:03] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[12:03] <TeraDyne> Schuenemann: pachage is called "libglib2.0-dev"
[12:04] <TeraDyne> package*
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Emacs is nasty
[12:04] <Schuenemann> I won't thank you yet because I know there will be more problems
[12:05] <UbuntuServerUser> how do I comment something out in nano
[12:05] <UbuntuServerUser> Is it just //
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> usually #
[12:05] <TeraDyne> UbuntuServerUser: It's "#" for the sources list
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> # coments
[12:05] <jhutchins_lt> WHoo, crashed it.
[12:05] <jhutchins_lt> UbuntuServerUser: http://www.collaborium.org/onsite/romania/UTILS/vi/index.html
[12:05] <UbuntuServerUser> So "#" disables the code
[12:05] <UbuntuServerUser> thanks
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuServerUser: # means the line is ignored
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuServerUser: well everything to the right of it
[12:06] <UbuntuServerUser> ;) gotcha
[12:06] <jhutchins_lt> Always true, unless you assume that it's true, in which case some other comment style will be correct.
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> VALUE=10       #this sets the value to 10
[12:07] <TeraDyne> jhutchins_lt: That made no sense to me
[12:07] <UbuntuServerUser> Good because I was lost too
[12:07] <UbuntuServerUser> linuxism?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> UbuntuServerUser: new one on me
[12:07] <MistaGee> I've written a utility that might be interesting or useful for other users as well... is there anyone whom I could send it?
[12:07] <jhutchins_lt> Murphy's law.  If you assume that a program respects hashmarks as comment markers, the program will actually require some other style of marking comments, like double slashes (//).
[12:08] <stdin> normally '#' means it's a comment/ignored, but it can sometimes be others too (eg: ';')
[12:08] <jhutchins_lt> Especially if the line you have commented out causes bad things to happen.
[12:08] <TeraDyne> jhutchins_lt: I usually assume it's whatever the other comments use.
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> MistaGee: ooh whats it do
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> MistaGee: just being nosey
[12:08] <stdin> MistaGee: what is it?
[12:09] <MistaGee> I've had the problem that xargs doesn't encapse the file names into ", so the called program told me "04: no such file or directory"
[12:09] <jhutchins_lt> Nice programmers respect most standard comment formats; good packagers include sample config files with examples of what's expected.
[12:09] <MistaGee> so I wrote yargs, which encapses the file names into " ;)
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> MistaGee:sweet move dude
[12:09] <MistaGee> thanks
[12:10] <coreymon77> hi guys
[12:10] <coreymon77> my cdrw drive wont mount
[12:10] <MistaGee> well, I put it under the GPL, if anyone wants to view it or something, just say so
[12:11] <stdin> MistaGee: you can make a project for it on LP and upload it there for anyone to grab
[12:11] <jhutchins_lt> TeraDyne: If the program uses a non-standard comment format, and the program can do something bad if a comment line is not correctly ignored, the included file will not include any example comments.
[12:11] <MistaGee> what is LP? :/
[12:11] <TeraDyne> jhutchins_lt: Ah, ok. Got it.
[12:11] <coreymon77> can someone help me get my cdrw drive to mount
[12:11] <stdin> MistaGee: http://launchpad.net
[12:11] <UbuntuServerUser> OK so I finished editting the comments I wanted in, so how do I save---thats 'WriteOut" right? How can I "WriteOUt"?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> MistaGee: I'd email gnu@gnu.org and ask, then send your source to who they say
[12:12] <jhutchins_lt> UbuntuServerUser: What did you end up editing it with?
[12:12] <coreymon77> i put a cdr disk in there and nothing happens
[12:12] <UbuntuServerUser> nano :P
[12:12] <MistaGee> ok thanks :)
[12:12] <stdin> UbuntuServerUser: Ctrl+o
[12:12] <UbuntuServerUser> thanks
[12:12] <stdin> UbuntuServerUser: it gives usage at the bottom (^ = Ctrl+)
[12:12] <TeraDyne> or Ctrl+X wull ask if you want to save it before you close.
[12:12] <UbuntuServerUser> Yea
[12:12] <UbuntuServerUser> I did C+o
[12:13] <UbuntuServerUser> but now I did ctrl+x and it says "save modified buffer"
[12:13] <UbuntuServerUser> Didn't I already save it?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: is it not in your /etc/fstab ?
[12:13] <UbuntuServerUser> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:13] <UbuntuServerUser> I'm editing out CD sourcfe
[12:14] <stdin> UbuntuServerUser: try saving it again, look for any error message