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bdmurrayIf somebody has not applied for team membership is there a way to approve their membership temorarily or do you have to approve it and then change the memebership terms?12:38
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mptGooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!02:30
LaserJockhi mpt 02:34
mpthi ho02:34
LaserJockgoing to fill my mailbox today? :-)02:35
mptPerhaps not02:37
mptConcentrating on coding today02:37
LaserJockoh, that's cool02:37
crimsunpoolie: RE: 122215, can you reproduce the symptoms using another app (not Skype), e.g., Rhythmbox directed to play through your usb headset?02:43
pooliehow can i tell rhythmbox to play through my headset? 02:43
crimsunSystem> Preferences> Sound02:43
poolieoh, that's new02:44
crimsunyou may need to restart Rhythmbox for it to take effect02:44
pooliecool02:44
pooliehm02:45
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poolieoh well, i'll try it02:45
crimsunI have a feeling it's linux-source-2.6.20, specifically snd-usb-audio.ko, since there's something funky in the ALSA usb driver right now.02:46
poolieso far so good02:47
pooliei'll let you know02:48
poolieit does seems unlikely that a solely userspace bug could cause such a hard hang02:48
pooliethere is a lot of distortion02:49
crimsunthat can be tweaked with alsa-lib parameters like sample method and virtual device usage02:50
poolieinteresting02:50
crimsunI'm more concerned about possible mutex abuse02:50
poolieafter playing for a while it gets distorted; kind of ringing maybe?02:50
pooliestopping and restarting fixes it02:50
pooliei've heard this with skype as well and thought it was just network dropouts02:51
crimsunthat symptom is alsa-lib's fault02:51
crimsunshould be fixed in gutsy02:51
crimsunanyhow, apologies for being offtopic; just figured I'd ping you in this channel since you're present02:52
poolienot at all02:52
pooliethanks02:52
pooliedo you work at canonical?02:53
crimsunno02:53
poolieis there any workaround for the alsalib bug?02:55
crimsununfortunately, no02:55
crimsunI'd be interested in seeing if you can reproduce the distortion with `aplay -Dplughw:1 /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav`  (you'll need to close Rhythmbox first)02:57
crimsun(I'm also presuming that `asoundconf list` returns your usb headset below any other detected sound device)02:57
poolieok02:57
pooliethat sounds fine02:58
pooliethe distortion only came in about 20s into the first song though02:58
poolieafter it happened on the second song i hit stop and then play, and it did not recurr02:58
crimsunok, does the distortion appear with `aplay -Dplug:dmix:1 /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav` ?02:58
poolieno02:59
crimsunok, perhaps the latter test simply needs a longer wav file02:59
pooliei tried *wav with no problems03:00
pooliebut maybe it needs to be a long single file?03:00
crimsunright, like a four-minute wav03:00
pooliewell, i can decode an ogg and try that03:03
ubotuNew bug: #122220 in malone ""Offer mentorship" switches from Bugs to Overview" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12222003:05
crimsunsure, that will suffice03:06
poolieno distortion with plug:dmix:103:07
pooliewell, other than what's meant to be there :)03:08
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lifelessreviewer meeting in 5 minutes07:54
spivlifeless: let's start early, eh? ;)07:55
lifelessThat sounds like fun.07:55
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lifeless    *07:56
lifeless      Roll call07:56
lifeless    *07:56
lifeless      Next meeting07:56
lifeless    *07:56
lifeless      Queue status.07:56
lifeless    *07:56
lifeless      Timely assignment of queue items07:56
lifelessyay wiki copy07:56
lifelesswhos here? I am in body.07:56
spivI'm here.07:56
lifelessyou and what army?07:56
spivMe and the piece of fluff I'm chasing out of my keyboard.07:57
lifeless'piece of fluff' eh, and you just married :)07:57
spivWell that seems to be jolly good.  Next item? :)07:58
lifeless3r3d july?07:58
lifeless13 open reviews, 2 down from last week07:59
lifeless6 over target08:00
spiv3rd July seems fine.08:00
lifeless6 over target, which is up08:00
spivA couple of those are assigned to sprinters.08:00
lifelessall the same08:01
lifelessthe reviewers should have either handed back, or are planning to do it while on sprint08:01
spivIs it worth pre-emptively reassigning them, and sending a reminder to the sprinting reviewers to punt reviews they don't have time for?08:01
lifelessmmm08:01
lifelessperhaps a mail.08:02
lifelessI'll do one now08:02
spivOk.08:02
lifelessdone08:03
lifelessTimely assignment of queue items08:03
lifelessdo you know who raised this?08:04
spivNo idea.08:04
lifelessI'll check histoty08:04
spivwiki says flacoste08:04
lifelessflacoste08:04
lifelessdid I miss something on-list?08:04
spivNot that I recall.08:04
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spivBac and barry have one branch that was assigned to them today when the branch was already "late". This points to a problem in the timely assignment of reviews.08:05
spivI guess the question is why did this happen?  In the past this has sometimes happened because the queue was large, and the assigner didn't want to assign lots and lots of things to each reviewer all at once.08:07
lifelessright08:08
lifelesswhich was the case last week.08:08
lifelesssalgado is assigning reviews too these days08:08
spivBarry and kiko suggested that reviewers with some free time could grab reviews from the general queue without waiting for formal assignment. One minus with that is that reviewers are likely to pick branch in area that they are familiar with. This will make a good review, but will not increase cross-area training that lifeless consider in his assignments.08:08
lifelessI'm remember this now; I did read the minutes :)08:08
spivAh, ok :)08:08
spivI don't see any reason to prevent reviewers from taking off the general queue directly if they want.08:09
lifelessneither do I. But we know it doesn't work.08:09
lifelessthats why we have an assigner. We've never actually said 'dont take reviews yourself'08:09
spivSo long as they are careful to update the assignment in the queue, as noted in the minutes.  But I don't get the impression there's lots of idle reviewer cycles waiting to be harnessed.08:10
lifelessIn fact, as we encourage finding a reviewer oneself for urgent things, its quite clear that there is not meant to be a mandatory get-assigned step.08:10
spivI just get the impression that our developers our working too hard ;)08:10
lifelesss/our/are/08:10
lifelessSo, I think - mail to salgado to see how hes finding allocations, and note to reviewers that they are welcome to pick reviews from the queue - oldest first though!08:11
spivWell, it's probably worth mailing a remineder about those things (reviewers are welcome to self-assign; devs are welcome to try find a reviewer themself)08:12
lifelessok, I'll do both of those.08:12
lifelessany other business?08:12
spivNone that I can think of, just a general fear that sprints lead review queue DOOM.08:12
lifelessmeeting over then08:13
lifelessin fact08:13
lifelessif someone at sprint puts a branch up for review; someone at sprint will get the branch to review.08:13
lifelessquid pro quo.08:13
spivI like that.08:13
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carlos_morning08:32
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ubotuNew bug: #122257 in launchpad-answers "Don't send support requests for languages without subscriber to everyone" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12225710:40
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cprovgood morning, guys.12:58
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EmxBAhi! it seems that https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+lang/bs and https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+lang/hr (bosnian, and croatian) translations cannot be accessed. all other work?02:01
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EmxBAhi sabdfl 02:02
sabdflhiya EmxBA02:02
EmxBAperhaps you've met some people from LUGbih on debconf? ^^02:02
sabdflAh, yes, I think there's a photo en route for you ;-)02:03
EmxBA:) I couldn't attend but I've told some people to greet you ;)02:05
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henoAnyone know how to make a team inactive?02:10
henoI'd like to close distro-qa as the name is confusing people02:10
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ubotuNew bug: #121230 in Ubuntu "Remove firegpg project please." [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12123002:15
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Fujitsuheno: You'll probably need to file a launchpad support ticket in the answer tracker.02:18
EmxBAcan someone help me? some translations can't be opened02:19
henoFujitsu: thanks, I'll do that02:20
carlosEmxBA: hi02:21
EmxBAhi carlos 02:21
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carlosEmxBA: that's a bug that is being fixed right now02:22
carlosEmxBA: danilo already has a patch for it02:22
Admiral_Chicagomorning everyone, I'm looking at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/3851 and I want to close it02:22
shawarma&win 2102:22
carlosand we are working to deploy it02:22
EmxBAok thanks, carlos 02:22
Admiral_Chicagoi don't see the option, am I know looking close enought?02:22
EmxBAI couldn't access translations for bs for few days02:22
Admiral_Chicagos/know/not02:23
carlosEmxBA: that problem was introduced on Thursday with latest code rollout02:23
carlosEmxBA: sorry about it02:25
EmxBAok, I hope it will corrected in short time02:25
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ubotuNew bug: #122284 in rosetta "Some exported files doesn't include X-Rosetta-Export-Date tag" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12228403:05
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ubotuNew bug: #122289 in launchpad-answers "Display warning when asking a question on an "unsupported" project" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12228903:26
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shawarma&win 3503:39
shawarmawhoops03:39
agoliveiraHello everyone! I have a project registered in LP that's synced to SVN import from upstream. The upstream now has another SVN address. How can I update where my project is getting it's upstream source?03:41
mwhudsonagoliveira: you bug me or ddaa to do it 03:42
mwhudson:)03:42
mwhudsonprobably filing by a question in launchpad-bazaar project03:43
mwhudsonhttps://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+addquestion03:43
agoliveiramwhudson: I wanted to avoid bug you once more but if I have to... ;)03:43
mwhudsonit's a bit fiddly, but it's nothing major03:44
kduboi1where a guideline for the branch format that is supported? (i'm a bzr newbie and the bzr website doesnt seem to be helping me much...)03:44
agoliveiramwhudson: I need to change the svn import of this https://code.launchpad.net/hildon-control-panel from this one https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/hildon-desktop to this one: https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/branches/hildon-control-panel/refactoring/03:46
spivkduboi1: launchpad supports all the bzr branch formats03:46
mwhudsonagoliveira: oh03:46
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spivkduboi1: you should probably just use the default format that the current version of bzr (0.16) creates unless you have a specific reason not to.03:47
mwhudsonbloody xchat03:47
mwhudsonagoliveira: as policy we only import 'trunk' branches03:47
agoliveiramwhudson: Hmmm... then we have a problem because that's the one we need. The current one is broken and that's the one indicated by the Maemo/Nokia guys.03:48
agoliveira"About Control Panel:   Please, use this branch (not trunk):  https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/branches/hildon-control-panel/refactoring/  This is a major rewrite of control panel which will be used in our future releases. It has the very same UI but a completely refactored code base."03:49
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mwhudsonagoliveira: exceptions can be made03:49
agoliveiramwhudson: I would apreciate that as this is crashing our maemo base.03:49
mwhudsonagoliveira: we will almost certainly have to create an import that bzr thinks is entirely unrelated to the existing import03:50
mwhudsonis that ok?03:50
agoliveiramwhudson: Sorry but I don't get it.03:51
kduboi1so i think what i need to know is where to find the launchpad ssh key....03:52
mwhudsonagoliveira: none of the revisions in the import of the branch will be present in the import of the trunk03:53
mwhudsonagoliveira: so if you already have a branch off the existing import, you won't be able to merge from the new import into it03:53
agoliveiramwhudson: As this branch is a complete rewrite, perhaps would be easier just trash this import and start over with a new one?03:53
mwhudsonif none of this is making sense, you probably don't have the problem :)03:53
agoliveiraI mean, trask the LP project.03:54
mwhudsonbetter to trash the import03:54
mwhudson(which i can do)03:54
agoliveiramwhudson: Well, I can aways apply the changes again over the new import, nothing major.03:55
agoliveiramwhudson: So, go for it. As soon it's imported I'll check it out and see what happens.03:55
mwhudsonnow, i have to work out how to import a non trunk branch03:55
mwhudsonddaa: help03:55
spivkduboi1: you can upload your SSH public keys to launchpad03:59
spivkduboi1: is that what you're asking about?03:59
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kduboi1spiv: i'm not really sure. i'm just going to read the tutorials more, as opposed to bugging everyone on irc :-D04:01
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ddaamwhudson: pong04:13
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mwhudsonddaa: agoliveira wants to import from non trunk svn 04:13
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ddaatwo issues here04:17
ddaa1. branch was renamed in svn04:17
ddaa2. new location is not truck04:17
ddaas/truck/trunk/04:17
ddaathe current code *might* be able to deal with 104:18
ddaa(without losing the current import)04:18
agoliveiraI don't mind scrapping everything and start over if necessary.04:19
ddaaDealing with 2 involves patching our code... but nothing hard.04:19
ddaaEither add the new location to the whitelist.04:19
ddaaOr remove the whitelisting feature entirely.04:19
agoliveiraAh, so the current LP code can't actually deal with non-trunk?04:20
ddaaIt can.04:20
ddaaI added an explicit whitelist system to stop us from trying to checkout full repositories.04:20
ddaawhich caused some grief in the past04:20
agoliveiraI see. Makes sense.04:21
agoliveiraWhat do you suggest?04:21
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ddaaagoliveira: is this import used for ubuntu packaging?04:22
agoliveiraddaa: Yes. It's one of the main UI components for the Ubuntu Mobile and Embedded.04:24
ddaacool, you earned a big priority bonus04:24
ddaawe'll try to make you happy ASAP04:25
ddaamwhudson: let's have a call?04:25
mwhudsonddaa: ok04:26
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agoliveiraThanks a lot guys.04:27
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ddaaagoliveira_lunch: we should be able to fix that import tonight or tomorrow04:41
ddaawe'll make a fresh import of the new location, ignoring any history that occurred on the trunk location04:41
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Hobbseeerm...05:01
Hobbseedoes statusexplanation mean a comment?05:01
Hobbseehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/9368605:01
ubotuLaunchpad bug 93686 in kdebase "Konqueror French in Status Bar" [Undecided,Fix committed]  05:02
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ubotuNew bug: #122320 in launchpad-answers "extract IQuestionTarget API to QuestionTargetMixin" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12232005:21
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agoliveiraddaa: That will do. Thanks.05:46
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alefteristhe list of mirrors for software-properties-gtk is created automaticaly from the list at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors ? Or i have to do something else to add a mirror in the application?06:58
salgadoalefteris, which list of mirrors would be that?07:02
alefteristhe list of mirrors that users can select from the software-properties-gtk configuration application in gnome System -> Preferences07:03
alefterisSystem -> System config actually07:04
salgadoalefteris, I think that list is static, but it may have been created from the launchpad list of mirrors07:06
salgadoalefteris, mvo should be able to tell that for sure07:06
alefterisI dont care to much if it is static, just want to make sure that the application it will include newly added mirrors before the gutsy release..07:08
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lousygaruahello, is there a way to file a bug and change its status to 'wishlist' or whatever?07:16
Hobbseeimportance?  no. not unlessyou're in ubuntu-qa07:17
lousygaruaoh well.. thanks07:17
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lifelessis julian on sprint ?10:26
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cprovlifeless: Do you mean bigjools ?  No, he is not.10:30
lifelessok10:30
lifelessjust trying to ensure the sprinters can't flood the few remaining reviewers10:30
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ubotuNew bug: #122433 in launchpad "'Bug contacts' box doesn't help user become a bug contact" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12243310:50
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ubotuNew bug: #122439 in soyuz "Builder pages are not presenting the ongoing buildlog after 1.1.6" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12243911:21
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