[12:21] <rbs-tito>  What are we meant to do with bugs like bug 122201
[12:21] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122201 in Ubuntu "no backup/restore button on default Gnome panel for desktop systems" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122201
[12:21] <rbs-tito> Does it belong in blueprints?
[12:21] <crimsun> wishlist, perhaps
[12:21] <rbs-tito> crimsun: Don't you need some sort of authority to do that?
[12:22] <pochu> ubuntu-aq
[12:22] <pochu> qa, even
[12:22] <pochu> !importance
[12:22] <ubotu> You can learn about setting bug importance at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance
[12:22] <crimsun> rbs-tito: yes, but I'm not logged in
[12:23] <rbs-tito> Oh right, I'll triage a few bugs well before applying
[12:26] <rbs-tito> Why are bug reporters so slow at replying!
[12:26] <rbs-tito> Doesn't everyone spend hours every day on Launchpad?
[12:26] <crimsun> of course.
[12:26] <crimsun> I think mostly it's because people think their girlfriends/spouses/cats are more important than Ubuntu.
[12:26] <crimsun> what silliness.
[12:26] <rbs-tito> Fools
[12:27] <rbs-tito> You can entertain the cat and work on launchpad at the same time
[12:28] <crimsun> psht.  My cat uses Launchpad better than I do.
[12:28] <Neolithium> Better yet, teach the cat to reply to launchpad for you!
[12:29] <rbs-tito> It has nearly learned hex
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122205 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122205
[12:31] <calc> crimsun: i think its more of they don't want to be attacked by their gf/spouse/cat ;)
[12:32] <rbs-tito> I hate non descriptive bug reports like that.
[12:33] <crimsun> silly people with gf/spouse
[12:34] <bdmurray> my spouse breaks out the ultra-violence. ;)
[12:34] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: Can she code?
[12:34] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: She can program me.
[12:34] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: Fortran?
[12:35] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: Basic
[12:35] <rbs-tito> I hate basic. It failed me my exams. I refused to write a macro with visual Basic
[12:38] <rbs-tito> Bug 122207 doesn't need touching right?
[12:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122207 in vlc "vlc before 0.8.6c allows arbitrary code execution via a multitude of vectors" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122207
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122207 in vlc (universe) "vlc before 0.8.6c allows arbitrary code execution via a multitude of vectors" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122207
[12:41] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: not really
[12:41] <rbs-tito> I take it the author is a dev?
[12:42] <bdmurray> Yes.
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122208 in Ubuntu "Mouse sensitivity & acceleraation settings reversed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122208
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122213 in gdm (main) "Installing a gdm theme changes "Selected Only" to "Random from Selected"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122213
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122215 in Ubuntu "skype causes machine hang " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122215
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122218 in mail-notification (universe) "mail notification not working with evolution after booting" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122218
[03:02] <crimsun> bug 121111
[03:02] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121111 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Gutsy Tribe 1 CD don't load on Dell Inspiron 1501" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121111
[03:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122221 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "Gnome system monitor crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122221
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122222 in sound-juicer (main) "cd rom does not play, its choppy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122222
[03:38] <persia> Does anyone happen to know the preferred parent bug for "GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions"?
[03:38] <jjesse> argh the new bug status fields have borked all of my bookmarks that i used for findin gbugs to work on :(
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122223 in evince-gtk (main) "Index stopped working" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122223
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122224 in saods9 (universe) "Error while loading libtifftcl1.0.so" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122224
[05:24] <RAOF> Is there any special triage wanted for bugs with packages broken by the libgtkmm/libpangomm API/ABI breakage?
[05:25] <Hobbsee> RAOF: what are they - just rebuilds to fix?
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122225 in Ubuntu "please sync package robot-player from debian unstable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122225
[05:25] <RAOF> Hobbsee: I think they should be just rebuilds, but I'm not sure.
[05:25] <RAOF> For example, bug #122221
[05:25] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122221 in gnome-system-monitor "Gnome system monitor crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122221
[05:26] <Hobbsee> that oen was uploaded 12 hours ago...
[05:26] <RAOF> Ah, maybe that bug is not about the rebuilt version.
[05:26] <Hobbsee> so maybe a rebuild didnt fix the problem
[05:26] <RAOF> Time for some Incomplete
[05:27] <RAOF> Does LP show package changelogs anywhere?
[05:29] <Hobbsee> yes - changelogs.ubuntu.com shows them easier, t hough
[05:29] <persia> RAOF: Yes, but it's hard to find.  Look for a page like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/gnome-system-monitor/2.19.4-0ubuntu3 or https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/gnome-system-monitor/+changelog
[05:32] <RAOF> Ah, cool.  I don't suppose there's a LP bug to have that sort of information linked anywhere?
[05:32] <Hobbsee> it is linked
[05:32] <Hobbsee> it's just...hard to find.
[05:33] <Hobbsee> RAOF: top left hand corner of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/gnome-system-monitor/
[05:33] <RAOF> Aaah, you need to be specifically in gutsy, not just ubuntu.
[05:34] <RAOF> Yes, very hard to find :).
[05:35] <persia> RAOF: The shortest path I know is "latest source package", "gutsy", "overview", "Show Changelog", if you don't like typing URLs.
[05:36] <RAOF> Aaaah, or you can go Ubuntu->Packages->Overview->Gutsy
[05:38] <persia> RAOF: Thanks!  Now I have a three click path (bug->overview, overview->gutsy, gutsy->changelog).
[05:39] <RAOF> Heh :)
[05:39] <ajmitch> not bad, it's about 3 clicks in debian as well :)
[05:40] <ajmitch> and that's to 3 different *.debian.org addresses
[05:40] <ajmitch> (click to package, package tracking system, changelog)
[05:41] <RAOF> So, launchpad has all that info, it's just unintuitive :/
[05:42] <bdmurray> That's not the full changelog is though persia?
[05:42] <persia> RAOF: Well, depends.  For at least some subset, it's more intuitive than the debian path (and has cleaner support for SRUs).
[05:43] <RAOF> It's unintuitive for me, and I should obviously be launchpad's sole user-target.
[05:43] <persia> bdmurray: No.  Only for changes in that release (as I understand it).  Complete changelogs require visiting changelogs.ubuntu.com, and fall prey to the skipped stable update issue (not that it matters much for development packages)
[05:44] <bdmurray> persia: do you have to have the package installed for that though?
[05:46] <persia> bdmurray: No.  If the package is installed, it tries to download the matching changelog.  If it's not installed, it downloads the changelog you would get if you installed the package (so it works fine in cow or snapshot chroots).
[05:48] <bdmurray> persia: cool, thanks for the information
[05:49] <persia> bdmurray: Just as a warning, it doesn't work very well if you have a local or test package installed (e.g. from feisty-proposed or the like) and it's not run in a chroot.
[05:50] <bdmurray> persia: you can specify the version with =### right?
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122226 in courierpassd (universe) "courierpassd should recommend inetd server" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122226
[05:53] <persia> bdmurray: Thanks.  I'd never tried that.  Now I'll have an easier time looking at repository changelogs when testing packages :)
[05:54] <bdmurray> persia: I just have gutsy sources listed as a repo in my Feisty install
[05:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122228 in gworldclock (universe) "Clock updates are delayed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122228
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122230 in firefox (main) "Firefox Crash on Flash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122230
[06:11] <ccm> do we accept bugs for inofficial ubuntu derivates on launchpad?
[06:11] <ccm> there is a few amount of bug reports for "linuxmint" some company aimed ubuntu fork
[06:11] <ccm> actually i'd rather close them
[06:12] <Hobbsee> ccm: then change tehm as to be under linuxmint
[06:12] <Hobbsee> and reject the ubuntu task
[06:12] <persia> ccm: If the project for the unofficial derivative is on launchpad, then the bug applies there rather than against Ubuntu (unless they also apply to the stock package).
[06:12] <ccm> i dont think they have an launchpad space
[06:13] <ccm> they use a wiki (!) for maintaining bug reports on their web page
[06:13] <persia> ccm: I'd suggest "Invalid" then, with a pointer to the wiki in a comment.
[06:13] <ccm> http://www.linuxmint.com/wiki/index.php/Bugs_in_Bianca_BETA_014
[06:13] <ccm> okay
[06:13] <Hobbsee> oh twitch
[06:13] <Hobbsee> reject
[06:14] <persia> Hobbsee: One can no longer reject: only mark "Invalid" or "Wontfix" :(
[06:14] <Hobbsee> persia: then hit it with Ze Invalid Stick of DOOM!!!!
[06:14] <persia> Hobbsee: Exactly!!!!!
[06:15] <Hobbsee> :D
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122231 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice.org-gtk does not give instructions for use on non-gnome desktops" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122231
[06:17] <Hobbsee> haha
[06:17] <Hobbsee> write an autoresponse
[06:18] <persia> ajmitch: Isn't that just an adjustment of locale from "Won't Fix"?
[06:18] <ajmitch> "Won't Fix" is a mere statement about the bug - "No Pony" is a denial of a fundamental need for the user
[06:19] <Hobbsee> haha
[06:19] <persia> ajmitch: Ah.  I see the distinction.  I now agree with you.
[06:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122232 in live-package (universe) "Ubuntu-Archiv-Spiegel nicht erreichbar" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122232
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122233 in aptitude (main) "aptitude changelog $pkgname/$distro fails when distro is a source only repository" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122233
[06:26] <Toadstool> omigod! pony!!1
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122234 in usplash (main) "[Tribe1]  gfx corruption during AMD64 desktop  LiveCD boot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122234
[06:42] <ccm> a bug like #122225 should be tagged as needs packaging, right?
[06:44] <ajmitch> no, it's just a sync request, it shouldn't need tagged
[06:44] <ajmitch> though it does require much more info
[06:44] <ccm> how to i handle this request then?
[06:45] <ajmitch> sync requests should get ubuntu-universe-sponsors subscribed
[06:45] <persia> ccm: If you want to tag "sync" it doesn't hurt, but it also doesn't help a lot.
[06:46] <ccm> ok, so subscribing sponsors gets someones attention
[06:47] <Hobbsee> sponsors doesnt do the work, if someone else hasnt bothered.  it'll just send it back, telling them what they're missing
[06:47] <persia> ccm: Yes.  Sponsors will review the bug, and either complain about the missing information or pass to the right people.
[06:48] <ccm> Hobbsee: is there a wiki page about what information are needed for sync requests?
[06:48] <ajmitch> Hobbsee: which is why I suggested subscribing u-u-s, as the most useful team to reply & give info at this point
[06:48] <Hobbsee> ajmitch: ah, fair enough
[06:48] <Hobbsee> persia: ?
[06:48] <Hobbsee> persia: if not, there should be, based off the sync request stuff that was on the ML
[06:48] <ajmitch> given that we're not at UVF, but after debian import freeze
[06:48] <ajmitch> but ignore me, I'm not up on the latest bug dance moves
[06:49] <persia> ccm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess is likely your best source, although it's scheduled for an update at some point.
[06:49] <ccm> persia: thank you
[06:49] <ccm> and thanks to others, too
[06:50] <Hobbsee> http://rafb.net/p/NlUn9Z72.html is the sync request info
[06:50] <persia> ajmitch: Nah: you were 100% correct about this, but if CCM wants to review & request more info, no reason to wait for a sponsor.
[06:50] <Hobbsee> Archive Administration changes in august 06
[06:53] <persia> Ahh..  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-August/000181.html :)
[06:55] <Hobbsee> looks like it :)
[07:07] <dholbach> good morning
[07:10] <calc> dholbach: good morning
[07:11] <dholbach> hi calc
[07:13] <thekorn> hello dholbach
[07:14] <dholbach> heya thekorn
[07:15] <ccm> hey dholbach
[07:15] <dholbach> hey ccm
[07:15] <dholbach> how's it going?
[07:17] <ccm> dholbach: fine, just did some triaging for the hug day before leaving home
[07:17] <ccm> dholbach: hope to see you on the gutsy release party
[07:17] <ccm> :)
[07:20] <dholbach> hehe :)
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122235 in Ubuntu "Crash " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122235
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122236 in cbmplugs (universe) "Can't be installed [Gutsy] " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122236
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122237 in gimp-dcraw (universe) "Can't be installed [Gutsy] " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122237
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122238 in refocus (main) "Can't be installed [Gutsy] " [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122238
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122239 in gimp-resynthesizer (universe) "Can't be installed [Gutsy] " [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122239
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122240 in gimp (main) "Gimp-svg can't be installed [Gutsy] " [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122240
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122241 in gnome-mount (main) "LUKS-encrypted CDROM / DVD ROM are detected but mounting fails" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122241
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122242 in zope3 (main) "sync request" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122242
[09:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122243 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Bluetooth devices with batteries don't get shown" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122243
[09:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122244 in ddclient (universe) "Please upgrade to ddclient 3.7.2" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122244
[09:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122245 in hal (main) "DELL Latitude D600 IR and Blotooth driver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122245
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122246 in libcommons-discovery-java (universe) "sync request" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122246
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122247 in libgnujaf-java (main) "sync request" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122247
[09:35] <coNP> good morning
[09:35] <coNP> only one more to sleep till next hug day :)
[09:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122248 in liblogkit-java (main) "sync request" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122248
[09:37] <Hobbsee> hiya coNP
[09:37] <Hobbsee> coNP: start early :)
[09:37] <coNP> hey Hobbsee
[09:37] <coNP> too many things to do :(
[09:37] <Hobbsee> :(
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #122249 in aptitude (main) "Having Aptitude group packages by Origin & Archive" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122249
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122250 in Ubuntu "Opera fails to start; ERROR: ld.so etc." [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122250
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122252 in alsa-lib (main) "libasound2: user unfriendly update message re. default card" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122252
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122254 in gs-esp (main) "gs-esp looks for fonts ad infinitum" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122254
[10:27] <jerome_> hello
[10:27] <jerome_> how can I affect a bug to a package which is in canonical's commercial repo ?
[10:27] <jerome_> (bug 122250)
[10:27] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122250 in Ubuntu "Opera fails to start; ERROR: ld.so etc." [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122250
[10:27] <coNP> I guess it is out of scope for ubuntu
[10:28] <seb128_> mvo: ^
[10:28] <jerome_> so I close this report ?
[10:29] <mvo> jerome_: please not, let me have a look
[10:29] <jerome_> mvo : ok no problem, thank you
[10:29] <mvo> thanks!
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122256 in linux-meta (main) "kernel probleme" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122256
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122259 in kdebase (main) "ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /root/kdebase/kdebase-3.5.7/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122259
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122261 in rhino (main) "rhino does not start due to a NoClassDefFoundErr" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122261
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122262 in network-manager-vpnc (universe) "VPN on wired connection is not set" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122262
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122264 in yelp (main) "no se puede expulsar el volumen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122264
[12:02] <coNP> do we have a stock response for non-english bug reports?
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122266 in ffmpeg (main) "excess deprecation warnings" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122266
[12:18] <persia> coNP: Something along the lines of "Thank you for your bug report.  Unfortunately, Ubuntu only accepts bug reports in English.  Please try https://answers.launchpad.net/ if you need support in your local language" while marking it Invalid seems popular.  Alternately, if you understand the language, and can verify the problem, translating the description can be helpful (although you'll then want to act as a tester as the bug moves forward, as the 
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122265 in thuban (universe) "Please sync thuban (universe) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122265
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122267 in gimp (main) "Gimp randomly crashes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122267
[12:53] <coNP> hey pochu
[12:53] <coNP> can you please have a look at bug 122264?
[12:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122264 in yelp "no se puede expulsar el volumen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122264
[12:55] <seb128> coNP: I've unassigned it already
[01:00] <pochu> coNP: translated.
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122269 in ruby1.8 (main) "byacc missing in debian/control -> build-depends" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122269
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122270 in deskbar-applet (main) "Choosing "show only primary search engine" doesn't work" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122270
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122271 in Ubuntu "'Hardware Information' did not run" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122271
[01:16] <ubotu> New bug: #122272 in debian-installer (main) "One too much parenthesis in boot help text" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122272
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122273 in Ubuntu "Code::Blocks..." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122273
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122274 in apport (main) "apport-gtk crashed with AttributeError in get_dependencies()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122274
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122275 in rhythmbox (main) "Playing problem after deleting songs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122275
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122276 in rhythmbox (main) "Playback problem after deleting songs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122276
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #121230 in Ubuntu "Remove firegpg project please." [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121230
[02:03] <DarkMageZ> ping doko_ bug #120576
[02:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120576 in Ubuntu "[new package]  myspell-en-ca (canada)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120576
[02:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122277 in language-pack-fr-base (main) "gutsy language pack doesn't ship the gdebi translation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122277
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122278 in xmoto (universe) "xmoto crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122278
[02:16] <doko_> DarkMageZ: thanks for the reminder; I'll look at it today
[02:17] <coNP> 1300GMT, of course... 1500 CEST
[02:17] <Admiral_Chicago> the timing of the CC meeting is sooo bad
[02:18] <ScottK> coNP: I'd suggest making sure your wiki page is really complete/clear as they kind of frown on people adding themselves to the agenda at the last minute.
[02:18] <Admiral_Chicago> althought, when I went for mine, it started at 6am
[02:19] <coNP> ScottK: can you have a look at it, if something is missing?
[02:19] <ScottK> coNP: What's the URL.
[02:19] <coNP> ScottK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/%c3%81ronSisak
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122279 in openoffice.org2 (main) "OpenOffice 2.0.3 Calc - OptionButton insertion causes crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122279
[02:26] <ScottK> coNP: Looks reasonable to me.  You might want to add references to some of the better bugs you've fixed.
[02:26] <coNP> thanks ScottK, that is a nice idea
[02:35] <TheMuso> c
[02:35] <TheMuso> ugh
[02:35] <rbs-tito> Can I confirm bug 122159 as a kernel bug?
[02:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122159 in Ubuntu "Problem with the restart function" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122159
[02:35] <rbs-tito> I have got all of the kernel and bios information
[02:37] <ScottK> rbs-tito: Are you sure it's a real kernel bug?
[02:37] <rbs-tito> ScottK: bdmurray told me to collect all of that information as they always end up being kernel bugs
[02:38] <ScottK> OK.  In that case I'd confirm it.
[02:43] <rbs-tito> What is the package name of the current kernel?
[02:43] <rbs-tito> linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic ?
[02:43] <rbs-tito> Because I can't find that in launcpad
[02:43] <coNP> rbs-tito: I guess you need the source package
[02:44] <rbs-tito> linux-source-2.6.20 ?
[02:45] <ScottK> Sounds right without looking
[02:45] <dholbach> depends on which ubuntu version you're talking about
[02:45] <rbs-tito> Feisty
[02:46] <dholbach> feisty was 2.6.20, yes
[02:46] <rbs-tito> Do I assign it to kernel bugs? Or leave it un assigned ?
[02:46] <dholbach> I think the team should already be subscribed
[02:47] <rbs-tito> bug 121269 , is it real? Nobody else can replicate it.
[02:47] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121269 in flashplugin-nonfree "certain youtube videos dont work" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121269
[02:49] <ScottK> rbs-tito: It's real enough to the reporter.  I'd leave it for now.  Maybe someone else has an idea what they should try.
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122281 in busybox (main) "eject not a built-in command" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122281
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122282 in fuse (main) "/sbin/mount.fuse uses bash specific syntax that breaks with dash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122282
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122283 in openldap2.3 (main) "perl backend can't use dynamically loaded modules (DBI, POSIX...)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122283
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122285 in thin-client-manager (main) "thin-client-manager share screen error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122285
[03:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122288 in Ubuntu "gnome power manager doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122288
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122292 in nfs-utils (main) ""failed to contact portmap" error when stopping nfs-kernel-server" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122292
[03:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122291 in debian-installer (main) "Installation: could not find kernel image" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122291
[03:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122293 in network-manager-pptp (universe) "nm-pptp-service-pppd-plugin.so located in the wrong place and built against the wrong version of pppd" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122293
[03:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122294 in apt (main) "Bizarre Error - very unclear message" [Low,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122294
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122295 in gnome-panel (main) "Notification Area doesn't work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122295
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122296 in kdebase (main) "kate in kde 3.5.7 distributed by kubuntu for feisty crashes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122296
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122299 in Ubuntu "[gutsy]  inkscape doesn't start, doesn't invoke apport" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122299
[04:23] <Neolithium> LOL, I had a backtrace posted to that inkscape bug before it showed up in the channel...guess I'm feeling quick today.
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122301 in software-properties (main) "Wrong charset in software-properties-kde" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122301
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122302 in nautilus (main) "Modified time changes when copying a file to a samba share. (It is set to the current time)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122302
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122303 in vtk (universe) "vtk with python-tkinter does not work" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122303
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122304 in contacts (universe) "Contacts only displays "Personal" category" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122304
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122305 in gnome-mount (main) "gnome-mount crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122305
[04:41] <coNP> Neolithium: :)
[04:46] <Neolithium> How's it going coNP ? :)
[04:48] <coNP> Neolithium: what happened to your QA membership?  :)
[04:48] <Neolithium> I haven't applied yet.
[04:49] <pochu> Tomorrow is HugDay, so it might be a good day to apply :)
[04:49] <coNP> sure
[04:50] <coNP> and it is one of the only KDE tools I use
[04:50] <Hobbsee> pochu: i've been doing taht, a bit :)
[04:50] <Hobbsee> coNP: which one?
[04:50] <pochu> :)
[04:50] <coNP> Hobbsee: The One True Wolf of Audio Playing
[04:51] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122309 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122309
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122307 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "3d effects creates strange lines in thunderbird" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122307
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122308 in hwdb-client (main) "hwdb-gui crashed with UnboundLocalError in get_xorgdata()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122308
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122314 in gdb (main) "cannot read from linux-gate.so.1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122314
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122311 in alacarte (main) "alacarte crashed with AttributeError in __getPath()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122311
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122312 in hwdb-client (main) "hwdb-gui crashed with UnboundLocalError in get_xorgdata()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122312
[05:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122313 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122313
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122315 in gcalctool (main) "gcalctool 0 to the power of 0" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122315
[05:12] <Neolithium> hmmm
[05:15] <coNP> hey 0^0 is not interpreted
[05:15] <coNP> it is not a bug
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122316 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging/inclusion]  RawTherapee" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122316
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122318 in cupsys (main) "cups + parallel Canon : link missing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122318
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122319 in latex2rtf (universe) "latex2rtf's dependencies preclude its being installed with texlive" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122319
[05:16] <seb128> coNP: why not?
[05:16] <seb128> coNP: 0^0=1, no?
[05:17] <coNP> I am almost sure it is not interpreted, and don't remember why
[05:17] <coNP> however, I asked google, python and ruby, and all state that 0**0 = 1
[05:19] <coNP> the idea is something like that: n^0 = n^m / n^m  = n^(m-m), that is in fact 1
[05:19] <coNP> however you cannot divide by zero
[05:20] <coNP> it is not the definition, but "should work this way" and for 0 it won't
[05:20] <seb128> are you sure it's not a definition?
[05:20] <seb128> I think I learnt that 0^0=1 at school ;)
[05:20] <coNP> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponentiation#Zero_to_the_zero_power
[05:20] <seb128> I'm not sure now, but I see no reason to thrown an error rather than using 1
[05:21] <coNP> they say its best to make its value "context-sensitive"
[05:22] <seb128> basically they are saying 0^0=1 on most of computer softwares
[05:22] <seb128> "The evaluation of 00 is possible in several computer programming languages. Many languages, including Java, Python, Ruby, Haskell, ML, Scheme, MATLAB, Microsoft Windows' Calculator, and others (especially when using IEEE floating-point arithmetic, but also for integer arithmetic), evaluate 00 to be 1"
[05:22] <coNP> sure, so it is best let it be 0
[05:23] <seb128> 1 you mean?
[05:23] <coNP> not that someone would ever need 0**0 in gcalctool :)
[05:23] <coNP> sorry I mean 1 of ouse
[05:23] <seb128> right
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122321 in nautilus (main) "GNOME Create Document fails with NFS-mounted $HOME" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122321
[05:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122322 in Ubuntu "Feisty Fawn freezes a lot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122322
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122324 in update-manager (main) "Internal error opening cache (1). Please report - synoptic (dup-of: 117377)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122324
[05:41] <bdmurray> calc: ping
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122325 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "package sun-java6-bin 6-00-2ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122325
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122326 in hugin (universe) "hugin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122326
[06:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122327 in Ubuntu "Mauvaise frequence de rafraichissement d'ecran affiche  " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122327
[06:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122328 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "kernel-2.6.22-7.14 dumps it's core" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122328
[06:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122329 in saods9 (universe) "ds9 in feisty hangs on exit (version in dapper is okay)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122329
[06:16] <ubotu> New bug: #122330 in gnome-desktop (main) "[Gutsy]  Gnome Appearance windows freezes and fails to finish loading " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122330
[06:19] <calc> bdmurray: here
[06:20] <Neolithium> 5ettdxrrscdfrta                      \
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122331 in debian-installer (main) "hola" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122331
[06:21] <bdmurray> calc: morning.  I noticed a couple of my oooooo.org bugs are older than 4 weeks and wanted to check with you before closing them
[06:23] <bdmurray> calc: for example bug 113354
[06:23] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 113354 in openoffice.org "[apport]  soffice.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in comphelper::OPropertySetAggregationHelper::getFastPropertyValue()" [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/113354
[06:24] <calc> looking now
[06:24] <calc> was on phone with loan person
[06:25] <calc> bdmurray: yea for bugs like that closing probably is fine
[06:25] <calc> bdmurray: if we don't know how to recreate and the user hasn't responded in over a month to a ping about it
[06:28] <bdmurray> calc: In that one they mention "integrating Bibus" but I'm clueless as to what that means
[06:30] <calc> bdmurray: me too
[06:31] <bdmurray> cool
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122334 in gcc-defaults (main) "g++ does not automatically include  -lstdc++" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122334
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122340 in pbuilder (main) "[gutsy]  pbuilder (0.169ubuntu1) b-depends on virtual package rootstrap" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122340
[06:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122341 in gnome-panel (main) "Gstream" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122341
[07:00] <Hobbsee> !bugstats
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bugstats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <Hobbsee> !bugstat
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bugstat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122342 in kdeutils (main) "kdewalletmanager causes gpg signature failures with gnupg-agent/pinentry-qt" [High,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122342
[07:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122343 in gettext (main) "gettextize does not create Makefiles correctly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122343
[07:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122344 in sylpheed-claws-gtk2-extra-plugins (universe) "[Remove]  Please remove sylpheed-claws-gtk2 and sylpheed-claws-gtk2-extra-plugins from gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122344
[07:09] <Neolithium> bdmurray, can I pm you for some advice? :)
[07:10] <bdmurray> Neolithium: sure
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122346 in ubuntulooks (main) "Fill range on GTK sliders is incorrect with Ubuntulooks" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122346
[07:11] <neil_> Hey guys, I just filed a request for the new nvidia driver to be added to the repos as a bug, hope this is correct - as it fixes a widespread bug I and others have - failure to resume from standby and switch VTerminals on nvidia systems...
[07:11] <neil_> Nice that it's finally sorted, but not so nice we currently have to manually install the driver.. It came out on the 21st june.
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122347 in apport (main) "apport-gtk crashed with OSError in mark_report_seen()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122347
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122348 in Ubuntu "New nVidia drivers 100.14 fix problems with ACPI / Suspend" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122348
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122349 in ncurses-hexedit (universe) "hexeditor crashed with SIGSEGV in __libc_start_main()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122349
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122350 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122350
[07:28] <coNP> Neolithium: do you mind if I assign 122229 to desktop-bugs?
[07:28] <coNP> sorry, bug 122299
[07:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122299 in inkscape "[gutsy]  inkscape doesn't start, doesn't invoke apport" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122299
[07:30] <bdmurray> coNP: regarding that bug apport shouldn't start
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122351 in network-manager-applet (main) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122351
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122352 in gnome-app-install (main) "gnome-app-install crashed with KeyError in tryInstall()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122352
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122353 in gnome-applets (main) "mixer_applet2 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122353
[07:30] <coNP> bdmurray: okay apport is not a problem
[07:31] <Neolithium> coNP - Oh go ahead :)
[07:31] <coNP> the problem is that inkscape is linked with oldd gtkmm and won't start with new one
[07:32] <bdmurray> coNP: I realize that but thought be should know that apport is not supposed to be reporting stuff now.
[07:32] <bdmurray> s/be/people/
[07:32] <bdmurray> If they don't already
[07:33] <coNP> thanks bdmurray
[07:33] <Neolithium> Oh yeah, it doesn't report anything with Gutsy yet, does it?
[07:34] <bdmurray> It should not because it is turned off however it is trivial to turn back on.  That being said in most cases it will not provide useful information if it is turned on.
[07:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122354 in network-manager-applet (main) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122354
[07:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122355 in udev (main) "Permissions for Gretag-Macbeth Display Eye One 2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122355
[07:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122356 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122356
[07:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122357 in listen (universe) "listen.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122357
[07:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122358 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122358
[07:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122359 in restricted-manager (main) "restricted-manager crashed with UnboundLocalError in load_lrmc_disabled()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122359
[07:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122360 in network-manager-applet (main) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122360
[07:41] <ubotu> New bug: #122361 in gnome-applets (main) "mixer_applet2 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122361
[07:41] <ubotu> New bug: #122362 in gnome-app-install (main) "gnome-app-install crashed with KeyError in tryInstall()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122362
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122364 in network-manager-applet (main) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122364
[07:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122366 in gdm (main) "Xubuntu gdm briefly shows Ubuntu brown then Xubuntu blue after login" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122366
[07:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122367 in evolution (main) "Evolution don't print properly contacts, columns to small !" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122367
[07:52] <coNP> Neolithium: can you confirm latest inkscape upload heals bug 122299?
[07:52] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122299 in inkscape "[gutsy]  inkscape doesn't start" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122299
[07:53] <Neolithium> coNP - I'll check right now :)
[07:53] <coNP> thanks Neolithium
[07:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122368 in tripod (universe) "Absurd pt_BR translation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122368
[07:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122370 in hardinfo (universe) "hardinfo crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122370
[07:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122371 in network-manager (main) "After booting, nm shuts down/loses connection constantly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122371
[07:57] <Neolithium> coNP - Confirmed. Fixed :)
[07:57] <coNP> Neolithium: do you want to mark bug #122299 fixed?
[07:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122299 in inkscape "[gutsy]  inkscape doesn't start" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122299
[07:57] <coNP> you deserve it :)
[07:58] <Neolithium> coNP - Sure, thanks :)
[07:58] <coNP> thank you, Neolithium
[07:58] <Neolithium> coNP - No, thank you :)
[07:59] <coNP> by the way I wonder if there is already wednesday somewhere
[07:59] <coNP> @now sidney
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122369 in Ubuntu "ext2/ext3-fs-related, data-access segmentation fault (running rdiff-backup)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122369
[08:00] <Neolithium> LOL. I think I won't make it, I have the inlaws in town tomorrow. Though I might try to sneak off and be here.
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122372 in tracker (universe) "tracker-extract crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122372
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122373 in Ubuntu "alternate cd install a lvm system but fails on boot :-(" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122373
[08:06] <rbs-tito_> Does anyone know what the upstream for gnome-control-center is?
[08:06] <coNP> rbs-tito: it is in Gnome isn't it?
[08:07] <rbs-tito> Yeah, but what do I fill in as upstream in launchpad.
[08:07] <rbs-tito> There are loads of results from gnome
[08:07] <rbs-tito> I'm triaging bug 122208
[08:07] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122208 in gnome-control-center "Mouse sensitivity & acceleration settings reversed" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122208
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122374 in gxine (main) "added Xb-Npp-xxx tags accordingly to "firefox distro add-on suport" spec" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122374
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122375 in network-manager (main) "network manager crashed while or after upgrading" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122375
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122376 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome-power-manager crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122376
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122377 in evince (main) "evince crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122377
[08:11] <shirish> guys is it a good or a bad idea to touch .crash file so apport is able to report it?
[08:12] <bdmurray> shirish: depends on the release you are using
[08:12] <shirish> bdmurray: using gutsy
[08:13] <bdmurray> That is probably a bad idea as apport is turned off for a reason in gutsy.
[08:13] <shirish> bdmurray: it was turned off, the latest updates turned it back on
[08:14] <bdmurray> shirish: Okay, then if the crash file in /var/crash is with the same version it would be fine.
[08:14] <shirish> bdmurray: I had to use touch as network manager crashed during the update which resulted in a situation where apport was doing stuff, but could not report
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #122378 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122378
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #122379 in usplash (main) "usplash gets messed up when using vga=791 in Feisty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122379
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #122380 in network-manager-applet (main) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122380
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #122381 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122381
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #122382 in xarchiver (main) "xarchiver crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122382
[08:16] <rbs-tito> Can someone confirm that speed and accelaration settings of the mouse in gnome-control-center are reversed?
[08:16] <shirish> bdmurray: what do you mean by same version, how does one know that?
[08:16] <rbs-tito> *sensitivity and acceleration
[08:16] <shirish> aha, other people seemed to also have issues with the latest network-manager release I guess
[08:17] <giskard> shirish, and more and more bugs when 0.7 will come out
[08:17] <shirish> bdmurray: one thing more, what I am doing now is touching the crash files, reporting them & then removing them manually
[08:17] <shirish> giskard: oh brother
[08:17] <shirish> its going to be fun lol :P
[08:18] <bdmurray> shirish: make sure that the bug isn't already reported first otherwise you are just creating unnecessary work for everyone
[08:19] <shirish> bdmurray: that will be hard :(
[08:20] <bdmurray> shirish: it would be more helpful though
[08:20] <shirish> bdmurray: understand that, but do not know how
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122383 in openoffice.org (main) "Cross-references and TOC links broken in XHTML export" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122383
[08:21] <shirish> many a times the headings are same, but how to know if the reason is same, or the release is same
[08:21] <bdmurray> shirish: by looking at the bugs?
[08:23] <rbs-tito> I've filed a bug upstream at gnome.org and linked it to Launchpad. Do I have to now enter the upstream bug in Launchpad?
[08:24] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: yes that would be best
[08:24] <shirish> bdmurray: take this one for instance gnome-screenshot crashed with SIGSEGV
[08:25] <shirish> bdmurray: now that heading has been repeated no. of times, how to know if I am repeating or duplicating the bug
[08:25] <bdmurray> shirish: Ah, I think I see the problem
[08:26] <shirish> bdmurray: that is the issue, the architecture is different, the release of the package might be/might not be the same how do I know that
[08:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122384 in gnome-blog (universe) "gnome-blog-poster crashed with TypeError in getBlogList()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122384
[08:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122385 in network-manager-applet (main) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in nmi_dbus_get_network_key_callback()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122385
[08:26] <bdmurray> shirish: When you are submitting the bug via apport you don't have visibility into the stacktrace etc right?
[08:27] <shirish> I think if one clicks on the content of the report one might get something, hold on, lemme report this one as already submitted, the next one I will see that.
[08:28] <rbs-tito> Is this report successfully triaged and ready to confirm? bug 122208
[08:28] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122208 in gnome-control-center "Mouse sensitivity & acceleration settings reversed" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122208
[08:29] <shirish> bdmurray: the stacktrace statement has nothing underneath it, it is empty
[08:29] <shirish> bdmurray: using the latest apport.
[08:30] <bdmurray> hmm
[08:32] <shirish> bdmurray: how do I find the version of this python-apport tool ? doing python-apport --version gives nothing
[08:32] <shirish> cancel that
[08:33] <shirish> I just did aptitude show, it is 0.85
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122386 in Ubuntu "X server crashes randomly when starting to play videos in Feisty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122386
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122387 in gnome-utils (main) "gnome-screenshot crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122387
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122389 in compiz (main) "gtk-window-decorator crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122389
[08:36] <bdmurray> shirish: dpkg -l python-apport would be more definitive
[08:37] <shirish> bdmurray: that also shows a ii (guessing for installed) and 0.85 there too
[08:38] <bdmurray> shirish: right but 'dpkg -l' is a better practice overall
[08:38] <bdmurray> shirish: try aptitude --version and dpkg -l aptitude
[08:40] <shirish> bdmurray: ok now I see, when you do dpkg -l then you get little bit more info. like  0.4.4-4ubuntu2 while with aptitude you just get  0.4.4
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122388 in firefox (main) "gutsy report" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122388
[08:40] <shirish> which would be a world of difference when there are quick bug-fix updates
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122390 in xfce4-terminal (main) "xfce4-terminal crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122390
[08:41] <shirish> bdmurray: which would be a world of difference when there are quick bug-fix updates
[08:42] <bdmurray> and that happens more often with a development version like Gutsy
[08:42] <shirish> bdmurray: true very much
[08:43] <bdmurray> off to lunch bbiab
[08:44] <shirish> bdmurray: cool , take care
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122391 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122391
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122392 in podbrowser (universe) "podbrowser depends on Gtk2::Ex::PodViewer 0.16, but 0.14 in Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122392
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122393 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122393
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122394 in exaile (universe) "exaile.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122394
[09:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122397 in libdc1394 (main) "Unable to use dc1394 as non root user" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122397
[09:16] <shirish> bdmurray: ping me when you are back
[09:18] <rec53> Hey - I've just been looking at Bug 19457, and it said it may affect xorg, and I accidently hit the buttom so it is now filed as in xorg in ubuntu
[09:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 19457 in kdepim "kontact Imap-adressbook/Imap-calender doesn't work" [Medium,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/19457
[09:19] <rec53> Is there anyway to remove this, or should I just mark that part as invalid, since I doubt it is a bug in xorg
[09:19] <bdmurray> rec53: just mark that part as invaled
[09:19] <bdmurray> shirish: back
[09:19] <rec53> bdmurray: thanks for confirming
[09:20] <shirish> bdmurray: good, I had an issue with NetworkManager , i tried to report the crash file but network manager again crashed, what should I do?
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122398 in genromfs (main) "Please upgrade to genromfs 0.5.2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122398
[09:21] <bdmurray> shirish: network-manager crashing is in the process of being fixed so I wouldn't report it
[09:22] <shirish> bdmurray: ah good, thanx
[09:22] <shirish> bdmurray: how good are you with grub2?
[09:26] <bdmurray> shirish: not so good and I'm rather busy getting bug day stuff setup
[09:26] <shirish> bdmurray: ah ok, good luck with bug day :)
[09:30] <Knightlust> hi bdmurray!
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122402 in ubiquity (main) "[7.10]  [xubuntu]  Install fails "Failed to determine codename for the release"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122402
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122410 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "[Gutsy]  System Monitor fails to start" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122410
[09:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122411 in linux-meta (main) "linux-source 2.6.20-16.29 contains older version" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122411
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122413 in compiz (main) "compiz.real SIGSEGVs when run from a VC with no arguments" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122413
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122414 in compiz-fusion-plugins-main (main) "Some Compiz-Fusion plugins are not built correctly" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122414
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122417 in alsa-modules-i386 (universe) "[Gutsy]  Volume is too high in new install on HP Pavilion dv8220" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122417
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122419 in Ubuntu "Computer Wireless Disabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122419
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122420 in gedit (main) "do not display LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A (font Fixedsys Excelsior)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122420
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122421 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "Unable to purge package" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122421
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122422 in gramps (universe) "[Gutsy]  GRAMPS fils to start, segmentation fault" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122422
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122423 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122423
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122424 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122424
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122425 in rss-glx (main) "cyclone crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122425
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122426 in qemu (universe) "qemu-i386 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122426
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122427 in vino (main) "vino-preferences crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122427
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122428 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122428
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122429 in w3m (main) "w3m crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122429
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #122430 in casper "Driver updates should be located using arbitrary revision matching" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122430
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122432 in casper "Driver update loading does not wait for multiple medias." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122432
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122431 in casper "Casper times out loading driver updates" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122431
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122434 in usplash (main) "usplash crashed with SIGSEGV in __svgalib_open_devconsole()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122434
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122435 in deskbar-applet (main) "deskbar-applet crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122435
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122437 in kino (main) "[Gutsy]  Kino doesn't start with full GUI" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122437
[11:14] <gnomefreak> seb128: i put a semi useless dbg file on bug 122330
[11:14] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122330 in gnome-control-center "[Gutsy]  Gnome Appearance windows freezes and fails to finish loading " [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122330
[11:15] <seb128> gnomefreak: you have to attach gdb while the program is freezing, looks like you did it after it exited
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122438 in gnome-control-center (main) "Compiz Crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122438
[11:16] <gnomefreak> seb128: no it wouldnt do anything else so i stopped it
[11:16] <gnomefreak> seb128: it froze turned white and term stopped spitting stuff out
[11:16] <seb128> attach and do "thread apply all bt full"
[11:16] <gnomefreak> seb128: i did
[11:16] <gnomefreak> oh
[11:16] <seb128> no you didn't
[11:17] <seb128> you have to do it when it's frozen
[11:17] <gnomefreak> i jsut did thread apply
[11:17] <gnomefreak> how/
[11:17] <seb128> so you know what's it's doing
[11:17] <gnomefreak> i dont have a promot to do it at
[11:17] <seb128> do ctrl-C where you are running gdb
[11:18] <seb128> it does an halt then and you can get the backtrace of where it's frozen
[11:18] <gnomefreak> ok
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122440 in texlive-base (main) "Tex Live is not fully tetex compliant" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122440
[11:25] <gnomefreak> seb128: done i only had g-c-c-dbgsym package installed so there are missing symbols
[11:27] <seb128> gnomefreak: and what do you mean by "and fails to finish loading"?
[11:29] <seb128> gnomefreak: the bug is about the appearance capplet or gnome-control-center?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> seb128: it freezes and doesnt load everything, buttons for cancel and apply or whatever should be there isnt loaded
[11:29] <gnomefreak> gnome appearence
[11:29] <seb128> why did you attach a gnome-control-center backtrace then?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> seb128: use it from menu or from control center does the same thing
[11:30] <seb128> could you get a backtrace of gnome-appearance-properties?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:30] <seb128> because the gnome-control-center one is not really required
[11:31] <seb128> or does it freeze also?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> its attached
[11:36] <seb128> the backtrace has no symbole
[11:36] <seb128> could you try to install libglib2.0-0-dbgsym libgtk2.0-0-dbgsym gnome-control-center-dbgsym to get one?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> i also attached screenshot
[11:37] <gnomefreak> seb128: yep
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122442 in sun-java6 (multiverse) "Memleak in Sun Java 6 on ubuntu feisty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122442
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122443 in lm-sensors (main) "mismatch between sensors and libsensors" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122443
[11:47] <gnomefreak> seb128: its up no rush
[11:48] <seb128> it has some details now but nothing really showing what the bug is
[11:48] <seb128> not sure on how to debug it
[11:49] <seb128> you might want to trigger an apport bug by sending a SIGSEGV to it while it's hanging
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122444 in apparmor (universe) "OOPS when ps -aZ" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122444
[11:52] <gnomefreak> how do i force a sigsegv?
[11:53] <seb128> killall -SIGSEGV gnome-appearance-properties
[11:54] <gnomefreak> lets find out :)
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122445 in scim (main) "scim-launcher select() shorts timeouts causes too much CPU wakeups" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122445
[11:57] <gnomefreak> This problem report is damaged and cannot be processed
[11:58] <gnomefreak> and i got a compiz crash, i dont have it enabled
[11:58] <seb128> looks like it's processing the crashes you have in /var/crash
[11:58] <seb128> apport has been enabled again today only
[11:58] <seb128> so you might have crash file there not sent yet
[11:59] <gnomefreak> i have file in /var/crash/
[11:59] <gnomefreak> attach with coredump?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> since apport didnt want to
[12:01] <gnomefreak> its attaching it may be a while hopfully that helps