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asaccool this one already has new apport hook data attached :) bug 12220512:29
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122205 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12220512:29
asachjmf_: look ^^^12:29
asachjmf_: probably the first bug with new apport hook data12:29
asachjmf_: bug 122205 that is12:30
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gnomefreakrepo should be ready now. please let me know when i get here in morning if any problems02:33
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gnomefreaktested pogo again with java5 and 6 both work in firefox ;)02:56
gnomefreakdebian bug 37717803:07
ubotuDebian bug 377178 in mozilla "FTBFS with GCC 4.2: C/C++ linkage declarations conflict" [Important,Open]  http://bugs.debian.org/37717803:07
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Admiral_Chicagodamn, getting that bitlbee error: localhost not found...08:25
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hjmfasac: yeah  it's the first one bug 12220509:06
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122205 in firefox "[GUTSY]  firefox-bin crashed with signal 5" [High,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12220509:06
hjmf:)09:06
Admiral_Chicagonew gutsy bug...does it need a clue file?09:06
hjmfbut again another gutsy crash report w/o coredum or stacktrace. As it is auto tagged as need-i386-retrace09:07
hjmflets hope they have the coredump hide somewhere09:07
hjmfAdmiral_Chicago: those reports doesn't provide useful info yet.09:08
hjmfAdmiral_Chicago: check the ExtensionSummary.txt attached on it09:08
hjmfAdmiral_Chicago:  maybe we want to find bug reports by their installed extensions09:08
Admiral_Chicagocan do09:09
hjmfAdmiral_Chicago: this one is the first real one that uses the new apport hook :)09:09
Admiral_Chicagoi saw09:09
Admiral_Chicagomaybe we can toss out the default theme/09:10
asacmorning09:13
Admiral_Chicagohey there09:14
hjmfmorning09:14
asache09:15
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Admiral_Chicagoseriously, i think the phone company did somehting09:15
hjmfAdmiral_Chicago: that's the easy think, probably is your fault :-P09:16
Admiral_Chicagohjmf: no i haven't touched my router or modem since I got them installed and about 4 days ago all my computers went nuts09:17
Admiral_Chicagoincluding my Kubuntu box, my sister's Ubuntu lappy, and the XP box09:18
hjmfmaybe the dhcpd of the router09:19
hjmfoops he's off again09:19
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Admiral_Chicagothis network thing is frustrating because i want to upgrade to gutsy but that won't happen without a connection that doesn't time out09:22
asachjmf: pitti> asac: just reject apport crashes from kernel 2.6.22-6, it is broken09:23
asacAdmiral_Chicago: i know what you mean ... i had loads of troubles with my connnection this spring09:23
hjmfasac: ok, that's the reason :)09:24
asachjmf: -7 is good again09:24
asace.g. core dumps are produced09:24
Admiral_Chicagoasac: i'm just going to ring the phone company, they probably did it working in the area.09:24
hjmfasac: cool09:25
asachjmf: invalidated ;)09:26
hjmfAdmiral_Chicago: be kind, I used to work for a time in a phone company receiving user's reclamations :)09:26
hjmfasac: excellent, I'll review the other gutsy crashes and I'll do the same asap09:27
hjmfafk for some minutes09:27
asacgreat ... anyone has serious use for network-manager here?09:27
asace.g. can test?09:27
asacon gutsy that is :/09:28
Admiral_Chicagohjmf: i always am polite to the help desk people.09:29
asacmy level of politeness depends on the level of niceness help deskee09:30
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Admiral_Chicagothe only time I haven't been polite is when the guy didn't listen to me and kept telling me to try things out in Windows09:32
Admiral_Chicagowhen it was a hardware erro09:32
asacyeah ... i don't want to remember when i got angry :) ... but it was always justified ;)09:34
Admiral_Chicagohehe09:37
Admiral_Chicagoasac gnomefreak: new jabber ID... freddymartinez9@gmail.com09:38
Admiral_Chicagothat goes for anyone who wants to add me too09:39
asacAdmiral_Chicago: done (i dropped the other two09:41
asac)09:41
asacAdmiral_Chicago: please ack09:41
Admiral_Chicagoack?09:42
Admiral_Chicagowait a sec...09:42
Admiral_Chicagoi see09:42
asacstill not authorized :)09:43
Admiral_Chicagoasac: i know. its trough gmail and i haven't seen a notification09:44
asacah ... you can use a good jabber client with gmail too09:44
asac(in case you wondered) :)09:44
Admiral_Chicagokopete, i have it set up09:45
Admiral_Chicagoi'll figure it out in a bit09:45
Admiral_Chicagobrb09:45
asacAdmiral_Chicago: just grant authorization09:45
asacyou usually can do that even without receiving a request09:45
asac:)09:45
asac@schedule berlin09:49
ubotuSchedule for Europe/Berlin: 26 Jun 15:00: Community Council | 26 Jun 17:00: Kernel Team | 27 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 27 Jun 22:00: Xubuntu Developers | 28 Jun 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Jun 13:00: MOTU Team09:49
asacoh in 5 hours :)09:49
hjmfhey, yes :)10:02
hjmfI'm out for the morning, I'll be back in time10:02
hjmfcy10:02
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bluekuja_heya12:23
bluekuja_asac: :)12:23
asacola12:23
bluekujaola :)12:23
bluekujareceived accepted mail12:23
bluekuja;)12:23
bluekujabuilt succesfully12:26
bluekujain all archs12:26
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Admiral_Chicagoeverytime i use it it requires some configurations that I can never figure out12:29
asacbluekuja: good12:35
bluekuja:)12:35
Admiral_Chicagodoes Tb include support for GPG keys OTB?12:38
Admiral_Chicagoafaik, it doesnt12:38
bluekujaasac: gonna apply for MOTU membership soon ;)12:40
asacbluekuja: how long do you contribute packages now?12:41
bluekujaasac: started one year and two months ago, with my first upload to REVU12:41
asacbluekuja: oh ... yes then i think you can give it a try soon12:42
bluekuja(gtorrent-viewer now synced)12:42
bluekujaasac: yeah, gonna wait libagg to be synced in ubuntu12:43
bluekujaand I ping my sponsors for the mail12:43
bluekuja(as cc)12:43
asacbluekuja: i told motu reception that I keep my student slot for you for another month ... if you are out of this earlier ... even better :)12:44
bluekuja:)12:44
bluekujaasac: before sending the mail, I gonna ping you12:44
asacsure12:45
bluekujaso you know that you should receive the mail12:45
bluekuja:)12:45
asaci hate wiping a system12:54
asacwhen do you know there is nothing left you wanna keep?12:54
Admiral_Chicagoadded back gnomefreak. thanks01:36
gnomefreakty01:36
gnomefreak@schedule new_york01:38
ubotuSchedule for America/New_York: 26 Jun 09:00: Community Council | 26 Jun 11:00: Kernel Team | 27 Jun 08:00: Edubuntu | 27 Jun 16:00: Xubuntu Developers | 28 Jun 11:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Jun 07:00: MOTU Team01:38
Admiral_Chicagoyea i'm waiting on the CC meeting as well01:41
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hjmfhi, I'm back02:01
hjmftime to have some lunch :)02:01
asachjmf: :)02:01
asacgnomefreak: will you attend?02:01
asaci case hjmf gets on topic and i don't see please ping me in channel and pm :)02:01
gnomefreakyes02:08
gnomefreakasac: can you please hold iceape for a little while? i would like to get something in it if possible before upload02:13
gnomefreakill look at it today/tomorrow and see if its as easy a change as i think02:13
gnomefreakunless you already have it built02:14
Admiral_Chicagoi love bzr sometimes02:15
gnomefreaki hate it02:15
asacgnomefreak: what do you want to get in?02:16
Admiral_Chicagohttp://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~bughelper-dev/python-launchpad-bugs/main/changes02:16
gnomefreaksaving bookmarks should prompt you to save and where02:16
Admiral_Chicagoits useful to see changes in your code without needing a seperate package02:17
gnomefreakinstead of just saving it with no dialog02:17
asacdo you have a patch for that or what?02:17
gnomefreakasac: not yet will be looking at it today/tomorrow02:17
asacgnomefreak: i think its better to ask upstream to fix this02:17
asacthan doing this on our own02:17
asacunless its just a preference of course02:17
gnomefreakupstream == debian or upstream == mozilla02:18
gnomefreaki was thinking it was a prefference02:18
gnomefreakbut dont know until i get to it02:18
gnomefreakAdmiral_Chicago: ty for planet post02:18
asacmozilla02:18
gnomefreakasac: are you handling gnash in debian?02:20
Admiral_Chicagonp gnomefreak02:21
asacgnomefreak: more or less02:23
asacwhy?02:23
gnomefreakbaby just uploaded new version but it looks the same as your version02:24
asacgnomefreak: she uploaded to mentors.debian.net02:25
asacshe has no upload rights02:25
asacso no need to worry02:25
gnomefreakoh ok02:25
asachere package is ment for experimental02:25
asaci would refuse to sponsor what she did to main02:25
asac(e.g. unstable -> lenny)02:25
gnomefreakthats odd02:26
gnomefreakah02:26
gnomefreakit is set to true :(02:26
gnomefreakbrowser.bookmarks.confirm_sorting  default boolean true02:27
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gnomefreakthat is the setting isnt it?02:30
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gnomefreakasac: is that the setting that would control that?02:51
asacgnomefreak: i don't think so02:57
asacits about sorting ... not about saving02:57
gnomefreakthat was the only one i found that would have anything to do with bookmarks, i filed upstream bug and marked LP bug with upstream02:57
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hjmfnothing better for a summer day :)02:58
gnomefreakim gonna be a little late to meeting but shouldnt matter much as there are thngs before membership03:00
hjmfyes the agenda looks plenty of stuff03:01
hjmfmeeting starts03:03
hjmf@now03:03
ubotuCurrent time in Etc/UTC: June 26 2007, 13:03:27 - Current meeting: Community Council03:03
Admiral_Chicagogood luck hjmf. i'll be there03:04
hjmfAdmiral_Chicago: thanks03:06
hjmf...this gonna take long03:13
asachjmf: should i drop my texta bout you to wiki?03:13
asac(too)03:13
hjmfasac: do it please03:14
hjmfasac: if you wish03:14
hjmfasac:  I think it will be enough to support me at the meeting :)03:14
asachjmf: yeah problem is i have fear to miss03:15
asaci will be here though :)03:15
asacyou have wiki link?03:16
hjmfhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HMontoliu03:16
gnomefreakasac: send a pm to me or Admiral_Chicago if you are gonna miss it just saying htat you support him for membership and why03:16
gnomefreakthat should be plenty, since nomrally we pm seveas as secretary03:16
gnomefreak^^^ easy way03:17
Admiral_Chicagoi'll be there, let me know03:17
asacgnomefreak: i added my text to wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HMontoliu03:25
gnomefreakasac: ty03:25
asacgnomefreak: in case i don't jump in quick ... paste it thanks!03:25
gnomefreakasac: you got it03:26
hjmfasac: thank you :)03:29
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asacwhy do people talk polish in -meeting?03:38
asacand are not kicked?03:38
hjmfasac: is serbian03:38
hjmfdunno but's quite boring03:38
asac... i hate patriotism :)03:38
hjmf:)03:38
asacso does scp -r follow links?03:40
hjmfprobably not03:41
asacyeah  ... but still i do a find alex/ | grep png$ | wc -l ... and get about 3003:42
asacbut if i scp -r alex ... i see about 2000 png files being copied03:42
hjmf find . -name '*png' -exec scp {} \;03:44
hjmfwill copy those you find03:44
asacyeah i know03:44
asacbut scp -r should work as well03:44
asaci am just scared03:45
asacno idea where those files are03:45
hjmfah :)03:45
hjmfcheck the syntax of the scp, maybe is recursively coping dirs03:45
asacits ment to03:47
asacit should copy all03:47
asacits a backup run03:47
asacbut apparently it also copies files from withing my /usr/share/ ... dir03:47
asacloads and loads of pngs03:47
asacand whatever else03:47
hjmfweird03:47
asacthis gives me really bad feeling03:48
asacappears to copy whole disk03:48
asacinterestingly enough it didn't do this when i copied alex by cp -a to /tmp/03:49
asacbecause i wanted to clean things up03:49
asacfirst03:49
asacok now i tarred this up03:50
asacso i surrendered03:50
asacok now i wipe this piece of shit (sorry for my aggressive wording, but i try to backup this system for 5 hours or so now)03:52
hjmfyeah I know how frustrating can be shit :(03:53
gnomefreakyay new kernel :(03:55
asacyeah ... its getting better. ... my intermediate storage was on a broken hd ... which is probably why i got this wierd behaviour ... now i only copied trash ... back to square one03:57
asachjmf: how many before you are on topic?04:02
hjmf904:02
hjmfI'm the 9th04:02
hjmfthey have finished with loco's04:02
gnomefreakhes 9th04:02
gnomefreakthats assuming everyone is here04:03
gnomefreaki hate complicated updates04:05
asacso probably its 2h :)04:05
gnomefreaki have to reboot im hoping crimsun gets back to me before i do04:06
asacok in 1h I have phone conference about 1.8.0 security support04:07
gnomefreakscrew it ill brb i hope04:07
hjmf6 to go04:11
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gnomefreakdid i miss the first 3 items on agenda?04:25
Admiral_Chicagognomefreak: yea04:25
gnomefreakdid they miss it or just me04:25
gnomefreakbefore loco teams04:25
hjmfthey skip them04:26
gnomefreak:(04:26
hjmfthey wanted to ping dfarning for the derivative team04:26
hjmfAdmiral_Chicago told them that he is not around for some time04:27
gnomefreakoh o i saw thar04:27
gnomefreakthat04:27
gnomefreaki put my thing on your wiki so i dont flood -meeting with it04:30
hjmfgnomefreak: thank you04:31
gnomefreakthere fixed it :)04:32
gnomefreakanytime04:32
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gnomefreakhjmf: im on phone and looks like it will be a little while can you please point them to the thing i left on your wiki?04:51
hjmfsure, but it gonna take a bit long there are still 3 before04:52
gnomefreakty04:54
asacok ... 5 minutes till conference :(04:54
asachow many to go?04:54
jerome_hello04:54
asacah ok 304:55
hjmfgnomefreak: Admiral_Chicago asac tonyyarusso I'm the next after the one now04:55
hjmfasac: no just one04:55
asacoh04:55
asaccross-fingers :)04:55
Admiral_Chicagookay i'm there04:55
hjmfasac: pm dholbach as he already ask for that for people who had to be away04:56
asaci did04:56
hjmfasac: ty04:56
jerome_i would like to join the ubuntu-mozillateam04:58
hjmfAdmiral_Chicago: ty04:59
gnomefreakwhat did i miss?05:07
gnomefreakhjmf: did you not go this time?05:08
Admiral_Chicagono i think they are ajourning05:09
Admiral_Chicagothere is another meeting05:09
gnomefreakthey are05:09
asachjmf: hmmm ok05:09
asacjerome_: hey ... let us know what you like to do?05:09
Admiral_Chicagosucks...sorry hjmf05:09
jerome_asac : well I think bug triaging would be a good start05:10
asacjerome_: beginner or advanced?05:10
Admiral_Chicagothat would be a good start05:10
hjmfyeah I could made this evening for this, probable next time will be more difficult05:10
asachjmf: usually CC meetings are late at night05:10
jerome_asac : well I don't really know, have a look : https://bugs.launchpad.net/~jerome-guelfucci05:10
asachjmf: this time was an exception imo05:10
hjmflet's hope :(05:11
asacjerome_: looks good .... please read the page about tags and states on the wiki05:11
asacwe have a slightly refined bug workflow05:11
asachttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/States05:12
asachttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Tags05:12
jerome_asac : ok I'm reading05:13
asacjerome_: might not be 100% up-to-date ... but should give you the idea05:14
asacjerome_: actually all tags are associated with a more a less similar/recurring task ... so mt-needtestcase for instance tags bugs that triagers can work on to get a good testcase out of them05:15
asacand until there is a step-by-step instruciton the bug cannot move forward ... et al05:16
jerome_asac : i see05:16
asacjust let me know if there is something not comprehensible from tex05:16
asact05:16
jerome_asac : ok, the basic status of launchpad are not precise enough ?05:16
gnomefreakthats right i forgot there was the kernel-team meeting 2hours after CC05:17
asacjerome_: yes05:17
asacthey don't let you pick a task05:17
jerome_asac : ok perfect05:17
asacjerome_: as a side effect we can discover triaging-bugs05:17
asace.g. bugs that have been bounced to other state by people that don't know what they do05:17
jerome_asac : like me two days ago :)05:18
asace.g. if you have a not valid tag state combination on a bug the bug should be reviewed by a mozillateam triager05:18
asacah :)05:18
jerome_ok i understand05:18
asacjerome_: i think i discovered you in maillogs though05:18
asacjerome_: for instance we have a bughelper result05:18
asachttp://daniel.holba.ch/bugs/firefox.html05:18
asac'Wrong Status/Tag-Combination for Status 'Confirmed'' .. those are bugs that are candidates to be triaging bugs05:19
asachowevever bughelper is not perfect and if there are multiple tasks associated with a bug it gets confused05:19
asacso there are false-positives in that list05:19
jerome_asac : ok, this gets updated automatically ?05:19
asacjerome_: yes05:19
asacevery 3 hours or so05:19
jerome_asac : great !05:19
asacjerome_: for instance http://launchpad.net/bugs/73536 ... this might be a false-positive05:20
ubotuLaunchpad bug 73536 in firefox "MASTER Firefox crashes on instant X server shutdown" [Medium,In progress] 05:20
asacbecause its in progress + confirmed05:20
asacanyway ... that list gives a good starter where to clean things up05:20
asace.g. look at bugs with wrong state and see whats going on05:20
asacmaybe it has been confirmed by some user ... without any request to get a testcase et al05:21
jerome_ok05:21
Admiral_Chicagoyou could use bug 122309 as an example05:21
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122309 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12230905:21
jerome_i will read this carefully and then start working :)05:21
Admiral_Chicagoi'm away05:21
asacjerome_: yes just triage right away05:22
asacif we see any bugs in the way you work we will let you know :)05:22
jerome_asac : ok perfect05:22
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asacjerome_: another important tag is mt-upstream05:22
asacthose need to be searched in bugzilla05:23
asacand if you tried hard but didn't find a duplicate comment this in bug05:23
asacwhen 2-3 triagers have done this we gonna move tag to mt-postupstream05:23
jerome_ok05:23
jerome_that well organised !05:23
asacjerome_: anyway .. just go ahead ;)05:23
jerome_*that's05:23
asacthere are too many bugs for firefox ... and if we don't do it this way, bugs might get lost in the noise ... and never processed :)05:24
jerome_asac : ok I will try to do my best, I will start tomorrow (have a few bugs to report upstream)05:24
gnomefreakasac: what are we doing with gtk_relize, we cant fix in feisty at all seeing as this is a totem code issue do we look on gnomes bugzilla for upstream?05:24
jerome_asac : well i can see that05:24
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gnomefreakexample bug 9133405:25
ubotuLaunchpad bug 91334 in firefox "MASTER (variant) Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize]   " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9133405:25
hjmfI'm off for a while, thank you all for staying around for the meeting. You rock :)05:28
gnomefreakalso seems to be fixed in gutsy05:28
asachjmf: cu ... and sorry05:33
asachjmf: i should have encouraged you earlier ... then you would have been further on top of the list05:33
gnomefreakthis is odd05:40
gnomefreaktheme manager freezes :(05:46
asacgnome?05:46
gnomefreakyeah05:46
gnomefreakits called appearence05:47
asacgnomefreak: gtk_style_realize was fixed in gutsy?05:47
gnomefreakno matter how i open it it never fully loads05:47
gnomefreakasac: as far as i can tell when it wasnt freezing but now i cant test it as i cant get theme to open fullly05:47
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asacok monitor is now plugged elsewhere ... so expect no response until gutsy install is done05:51
hjmfasac: it was just bad luck :)05:59
hjmf533 open reports, we just need to close 34 for a new record < 500 :)06:00
gnomefreakHost 'GutsyGibbon', running Linux 2.6.22-7-generic - Cpu0: Intel 1681 MHz; Up: 1:53; Users: 3; Load: 0.18; Free: [Mem: 9/249 Mio]  [Swap: 611/729 Mio]  [/: 17889/37872 Mio] ; Vpenis: 31.1 cm;06:03
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bluekujahjmf, heya!06:14
bluekujanew member?06:15
hjmfbluekuja: nope, the meeting got out of time before my turn, bad luck :/06:19
bluekujaawwwww06:19
bluekujawhen there will be next cc meeting?06:19
bluekuja(to be decided?)06:19
hjmfyes06:19
bluekujawhere's asac?06:19
bluekujagonna be away for whole evening/night?06:20
asacbluekuja: of course not06:33
bluekujahaha06:33
bluekuja:)06:33
asaci am installing gutsy on my old system06:33
bluekujaoh :D06:33
asachjmf: yuhuu06:33
asac500 ... that would be a dream06:33
hjmfwe are close to it :)06:34
bluekujaasac: I've started putting down some lines for the mail06:34
bluekujait has to be perfect in every point06:34
asachjmf: lets accelerate ... tribe-2 will have apport enabled07:15
asachurry hurry07:15
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gnomefreakasac: remember what app was crashing on me after the glib warning?07:48
asacvlc07:48
gnomefreakty07:49
hjmfasac: cool :P07:55
asacactually i have the feeling that the apport package my system is currently pulling has it already enabled07:55
asac... so maybe we will not make the 50007:55
hjmfasac: noticed a bunch of crashes08:05
hjmflet's have fun08:05
hjmfasac: I've filed bug 12237408:05
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122374 in gxine "added Xb-Npp-xxx tags accordingly to "firefox distro add-on suport" spec" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12237408:05
hjmffor gxineplugin08:05
hjmfasac: 2 of the three new crashes are from people with kernel 2.6.22-6 so I'll reject them, but one is from kernel 2.6.22-7 and it doesn't have coredump nor retraces either08:07
hjmfthat one is bug 12235008:08
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122350 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12235008:08
asachjmf: really?08:10
hjmfyep, maybe the kernel issue is not fixed on -708:11
asachjmf: why is there no apport hoook info?08:13
asacwhat firefox package introduced those?08:13
hjmfthe last one08:14
hjmfthey dont seem to have attached our hook08:14
asacwho is they?08:15
asaci mean ... we ship the hook ;)08:15
hjmf2.0.0.4+2-0ubuntu208:15
asachmmm maybe attaching for him was broken?08:16
hjmfbtw apport was updated today too08:16
asachmm ... i think i know what todo :) ... make firefox crash ;)08:16
asaci have a testing i386 gutsy system finally ;)08:16
hjmfI would do a test too, but from the chroot the kernel will be feisty's one08:18
asacright ... i tried virtualbox now08:19
asacbut it didn't get a boot record installed :(08:19
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hjmfa non crash collects right the info (bug 122388) but it is a feisty kernel though08:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122388 in firefox "gutsy report" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12238808:33
asachjmf: maybe its a bug in apport08:35
asaclets observer08:35
asaci will have to switch monitors as apparently i need a running x session08:35
asacto use totem08:35
asacplugin08:35
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asac_the_gibbonhjmf 12239308:43
asac_the_gibbonbug 12239308:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122393 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12239308:43
asac_the_gibbondamn gutsy fonts are really huge08:44
asachmm08:46
asachjmf: i think we should really try to get the most duped bugs into the auto-dupe database08:47
asacotherwise we run into problems :/08:47
asacok break for a few08:58
asachjmf: maybe we should also add if beryl or compiz is running09:37
asaci just tried desktop effects and i couldn't resize a window09:37
asacso bugs like Bug 12035109:37
ubotuLaunchpad bug 120351 in firefox "My Email and firefox browser cannot be minimised on to the task bar and when i close it i have to restart computer to open another browser." [Low,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12035109:37
asacmight be just desktop effects related09:38
asacjust as an example (this issue might as well be due to something else)09:38
gnomefreakbug 12225210:01
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122252 in alsa-lib "libasound2: user unfriendly update message re. default card" [Wishlist,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12225210:01
gnomefreaki wondered why that happened :)10:02
gnomefreaknetwork-mangler is uploaded that means freeze should be soon10:03
gnomefreakif i get time tonight or remember for tomorrow i will add a few other debugging things exabmple turn off beryl/compiz and see if it goes away to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/10:05
gnomefreakthey both cause usiblity issues10:05
hjmfasac: that was a huge report :)10:07
gnomefreakasac: did your java packages end up in feisty?10:11
asachjmf: huge?10:13
asacgnomefreak: they are not ment to land in official feisty10:13
hjmfI meant with all the attached stuff etc...10:13
hjmf:)10:13
asacgnomefreak: they fix a gutsy only issue10:13
asachjmf: yeah right10:13
gnomefreakasac: thought so10:13
asachjmf: i think we should attach more :)10:14
asachjmf: xorg.conf :)10:14
hjmfyeah I'm thinking about how to determine the wm running, but I guess I'm too tired now :)10:14
asacgnomefreak: they are only needed for preview archive users10:14
hjmfah xorg.conf10:15
hjmfyeah10:15
asachjmf: yes ... wm?10:15
asacor desktop environment?10:15
hjmfwindow manager10:15
hjmfor desktop environment10:15
hjmfI was thinking in metacity vs beryl vs compiz10:15
hjmfbecause of those reports about maximize/minimize stuff ...10:16
asacyes ... hard to say10:17
asacprobably some X11 call ;)10:17
asacthe answer might be a solution for other things that need to determine what is running atm10:17
hjmfyes, a ps tree or something10:18
asachmm10:18
asacprobably won't work10:18
asacmore likely lsof :)10:18
asacyou can have multiple X sessions open by same user at same time10:19
asacyou have to figure out what is running on current display10:19
asaclsof would be hacky ... which is why i thought maybe there is a x11 call that gives you meta info about display or applications on display10:20
hjmfyes, that's why I havent figure anything yet10:20
asacas i said: its a more or less long-standing problem to do it proper ;)10:20
hjmf:)10:21
asacthough probably there was not just enough efford to find a solution10:21
asacshould be doable ;)10:21
gnomefreakasac: we didnt get java6 update 1 yet :(10:25
asacwe didn't ?10:25
asacwhere?10:25
gnomefreaki dont think so10:25
asacin gutsy?10:26
gnomefreak!info sun-java6-bin gutsy10:26
ubotusun-java6-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture dependent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 25604 kB, installed size 76684 kB10:26
gnomefreakits 6.00-210:26
gnomefreakim assuming thats version 6.00 debian 2 ubuntu310:26
asacgnomefreak: is it stuck in queue or what=?10:27
asacits built10:27
asacaccording to lp10:27
asacon i38610:27
asacand amd6410:27
gnomefreakasac: dont know i dont have the links10:27
gnomefreakcant find NEW anymore10:27
asachttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue10:27
asac!newqueue10:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about newqueue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:28
asac:)10:28
gnomefreakty10:28
asac!newqueue is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue10:28
ubotuI'll remember that, asac10:28
asac!newqueue10:28
ubotunewqueue is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+queue10:28
gnomefreakty10:29
gnomefreak6-00-2ubuntu3  Release   2007-06-25 10:43:58 EDT  2007-06-2510:30
asacits in there?10:30
gnomefreakthe only sun-java in any of them is just in done10:30
asacgnomefreak: its there for me10:31
gnomefreaki will try a better search but sun-java search should have found it i would think10:31
gnomefreakasac: in NEW?10:31
asac(gutsy)asac@hector:~/mozilla/trunk/mozilla$ apt-cache show sun-java6-bin | grep Version10:31
asacVersion: 6-00-2ubuntu310:31
asacin archive10:31
asac(gutsy)root@hector:/home/asac/mozilla/trunk/mozilla# apt-cache policy sun-java6-bin10:31
asacsun-java6-bin:10:32
gnomefreakthat is no update 1 is it?10:32
asac  Installed: 6-00-2ubuntu210:32
asac  Candidate: 6-00-2ubuntu310:32
asac  Version table:10:32
asac     6-00-2ubuntu3 010:32
asac        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/multiverse Packages10:32
asac *** 6-00-2ubuntu2 010:32
asac        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status10:32
asacprobably your archive is not in sync10:32
asacuse archive.ubuntu.com10:32
asaci switched because network-manager took too long to come to de.archive.ubuntu.com10:32
gnomefreakasac: that is not update 1 is it?10:32
asache?10:32
asaci don't understand10:32
gnomefreakjava 6 update 1 is out from java10:32
asacno ... no new java upstream10:33
asacjust fix for firefox plugin10:33
asacnew java upstream will go in soon10:33
asacright after tribe-2 is out10:33
gnomefreakasac: thats what i was wondering if new upstream was in yet10:33
asacah10:34
asacno10:34
hjmfnight guys10:37
bluekujaasac: mail is ready. gonna send it tomorrow10:46
bluekujaevening10:46
bluekuja:)10:46
bluekujaasac: night11:05
bluekujacu tomorrow11:05
bluekuja(great day)11:05
bluekuja:D11:05
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gnomefreaki hate this11:39
gnomefreakremind me NEVER to file another bug :(11:40
JenFragglewhat's wrong?11:40
gnomefreakbug 12233011:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122330 in gnome-control-center "[Gutsy]  Gnome Appearance windows freezes and fails to finish loading " [Medium,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12233011:40
gnomefreaklook how many attachments and still working on them11:40
JenFragglebless11:41
JenFragglethink of how good you will feel when it is fixed11:42
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gnomefreakbbs need smoke12:03

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