[12:29] cool this one already has new apport hook data attached :) bug 122205 [12:29] Launchpad bug 122205 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122205 [12:29] hjmf_: look ^^^ [12:29] hjmf_: probably the first bug with new apport hook data [12:30] hjmf_: bug 122205 that is === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [02:33] repo should be ready now. please let me know when i get here in morning if any problems === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp59-167-30-126.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [02:56] tested pogo again with java5 and 6 both work in firefox ;) [03:07] debian bug 377178 [03:07] Debian bug 377178 in mozilla "FTBFS with GCC 4.2: C/C++ linkage declarations conflict" [Important,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/377178 === dotdot [n=pavan@d00-129-24-143-178.dhcp.unm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === dotdot [n=pavan@d00-129-24-143-178.dhcp.unm.edu] has left #ubuntu-mozillateam ["Ex-Chat"] === red_herring [n=rj@c-67-162-70-40.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Admiral_Chicago [n=FreddyM@adsl-69-209-67-49.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === DarkMageZ [n=richard@ppp59-167-30-126.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === swarna [n=swarna@203.129.255.178] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Admiral_Chicago [n=FreddyM@adsl-68-72-96-156.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [08:25] damn, getting that bitlbee error: localhost not found... === DarkMageZ_ [n=richard@ppp59-167-2-105.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === hjmf [n=hjmf@81.Red-217-125-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Admiral_Chicago [n=FreddyM@adsl-68-72-103-252.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:06] asac: yeah it's the first one bug 122205 [09:06] Launchpad bug 122205 in firefox "[GUTSY] firefox-bin crashed with signal 5" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122205 [09:06] :) [09:06] new gutsy bug...does it need a clue file? [09:07] but again another gutsy crash report w/o coredum or stacktrace. As it is auto tagged as need-i386-retrace [09:07] lets hope they have the coredump hide somewhere [09:08] Admiral_Chicago: those reports doesn't provide useful info yet. [09:08] Admiral_Chicago: check the ExtensionSummary.txt attached on it [09:08] Admiral_Chicago: maybe we want to find bug reports by their installed extensions [09:09] can do [09:09] Admiral_Chicago: this one is the first real one that uses the new apport hook :) [09:09] i saw [09:10] maybe we can toss out the default theme/ [09:13] morning [09:14] hey there [09:14] morning [09:15] he === asac reading :) === Admiral_Chicago configures his netwrok [09:15] seriously, i think the phone company did somehting [09:16] Admiral_Chicago: that's the easy think, probably is your fault :-P [09:17] hjmf: no i haven't touched my router or modem since I got them installed and about 4 days ago all my computers went nuts [09:18] including my Kubuntu box, my sister's Ubuntu lappy, and the XP box [09:19] maybe the dhcpd of the router [09:19] oops he's off again === Admiral_Chicago [n=FreddyM@adsl-68-72-103-252.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:22] this network thing is frustrating because i want to upgrade to gutsy but that won't happen without a connection that doesn't time out [09:23] hjmf: pitti> asac: just reject apport crashes from kernel 2.6.22-6, it is broken [09:23] Admiral_Chicago: i know what you mean ... i had loads of troubles with my connnection this spring [09:24] asac: ok, that's the reason :) [09:24] hjmf: -7 is good again [09:24] e.g. core dumps are produced [09:24] asac: i'm just going to ring the phone company, they probably did it working in the area. [09:25] asac: cool [09:26] hjmf: invalidated ;) [09:26] Admiral_Chicago: be kind, I used to work for a time in a phone company receiving user's reclamations :) [09:27] asac: excellent, I'll review the other gutsy crashes and I'll do the same asap [09:27] afk for some minutes [09:27] great ... anyone has serious use for network-manager here? [09:27] e.g. can test? [09:28] on gutsy that is :/ [09:29] hjmf: i always am polite to the help desk people. [09:30] my level of politeness depends on the level of niceness help deskee === bluekuja_ [n=andrea@host171-43.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:32] the only time I haven't been polite is when the guy didn't listen to me and kept telling me to try things out in Windows [09:32] when it was a hardware erro [09:34] yeah ... i don't want to remember when i got angry :) ... but it was always justified ;) [09:37] hehe [09:38] asac gnomefreak: new jabber ID... freddymartinez9@gmail.com [09:39] that goes for anyone who wants to add me too [09:41] Admiral_Chicago: done (i dropped the other two [09:41] ) [09:41] Admiral_Chicago: please ack [09:42] ack? [09:42] wait a sec... [09:42] i see [09:43] still not authorized :) [09:44] asac: i know. its trough gmail and i haven't seen a notification [09:44] ah ... you can use a good jabber client with gmail too [09:44] (in case you wondered) :) [09:45] kopete, i have it set up [09:45] i'll figure it out in a bit [09:45] brb [09:45] Admiral_Chicago: just grant authorization [09:45] you usually can do that even without receiving a request [09:45] :) [09:49] @schedule berlin [09:49] Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 26 Jun 15:00: Community Council | 26 Jun 17:00: Kernel Team | 27 Jun 14:00: Edubuntu | 27 Jun 22:00: Xubuntu Developers | 28 Jun 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Jun 13:00: MOTU Team [09:49] oh in 5 hours :) [10:02] hey, yes :) [10:02] I'm out for the morning, I'll be back in time [10:02] cy === swarna [n=swarna@203.129.255.178] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [12:23] heya [12:23] asac: :) [12:23] ola [12:23] ola :) [12:23] received accepted mail [12:23] ;) [12:26] built succesfully [12:26] in all archs === Admiral_Chicago thinks samba is over rated [12:29] everytime i use it it requires some configurations that I can never figure out [12:35] bluekuja: good [12:35] :) [12:38] does Tb include support for GPG keys OTB? [12:38] afaik, it doesnt [12:40] asac: gonna apply for MOTU membership soon ;) [12:41] bluekuja: how long do you contribute packages now? [12:41] asac: started one year and two months ago, with my first upload to REVU [12:42] bluekuja: oh ... yes then i think you can give it a try soon [12:42] (gtorrent-viewer now synced) [12:43] asac: yeah, gonna wait libagg to be synced in ubuntu [12:43] and I ping my sponsors for the mail [12:43] (as cc) [12:44] bluekuja: i told motu reception that I keep my student slot for you for another month ... if you are out of this earlier ... even better :) [12:44] :) [12:44] asac: before sending the mail, I gonna ping you [12:45] sure [12:45] so you know that you should receive the mail [12:45] :) [12:54] i hate wiping a system [12:54] when do you know there is nothing left you wanna keep? [01:36] added back gnomefreak. thanks [01:36] ty [01:38] @schedule new_york [01:38] Schedule for America/New_York: 26 Jun 09:00: Community Council | 26 Jun 11:00: Kernel Team | 27 Jun 08:00: Edubuntu | 27 Jun 16:00: Xubuntu Developers | 28 Jun 11:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 29 Jun 07:00: MOTU Team [01:41] yea i'm waiting on the CC meeting as well === gnomefreak wants to wake up first === hjmf [n=hjmf@81.Red-217-125-221.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [02:01] hi, I'm back [02:01] time to have some lunch :) [02:01] hjmf: :) [02:01] gnomefreak: will you attend? [02:01] i case hjmf gets on topic and i don't see please ping me in channel and pm :) [02:08] yes [02:13] asac: can you please hold iceape for a little while? i would like to get something in it if possible before upload [02:13] ill look at it today/tomorrow and see if its as easy a change as i think [02:14] unless you already have it built [02:15] i love bzr sometimes [02:15] i hate it [02:16] gnomefreak: what do you want to get in? [02:16] http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~bughelper-dev/python-launchpad-bugs/main/changes [02:16] saving bookmarks should prompt you to save and where [02:17] its useful to see changes in your code without needing a seperate package [02:17] instead of just saving it with no dialog [02:17] do you have a patch for that or what? [02:17] asac: not yet will be looking at it today/tomorrow [02:17] gnomefreak: i think its better to ask upstream to fix this [02:17] than doing this on our own [02:17] unless its just a preference of course [02:18] upstream == debian or upstream == mozilla [02:18] i was thinking it was a prefference [02:18] but dont know until i get to it [02:18] Admiral_Chicago: ty for planet post [02:18] mozilla [02:20] asac: are you handling gnash in debian? [02:21] np gnomefreak [02:23] gnomefreak: more or less [02:23] why? [02:24] baby just uploaded new version but it looks the same as your version [02:25] gnomefreak: she uploaded to mentors.debian.net [02:25] she has no upload rights [02:25] so no need to worry [02:25] oh ok [02:25] here package is ment for experimental [02:25] i would refuse to sponsor what she did to main [02:25] (e.g. unstable -> lenny) [02:26] thats odd [02:26] ah [02:26] it is set to true :( [02:27] browser.bookmarks.confirm_sorting default boolean true === freddy [n=freddy@adsl-68-72-103-252.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [02:30] that is the setting isnt it? === freddy [n=freddy@adsl-68-72-103-252.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === freddy [n=freddy@adsl-68-72-103-252.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Admiral_Chicago [n=FreddyM@ubuntu/member/admiral-chicago] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [02:51] asac: is that the setting that would control that? [02:57] gnomefreak: i don't think so [02:57] its about sorting ... not about saving [02:57] that was the only one i found that would have anything to do with bookmarks, i filed upstream bug and marked LP bug with upstream === hjmf is back after a paella and a cold beer [02:58] nothing better for a summer day :) [03:00] im gonna be a little late to meeting but shouldnt matter much as there are thngs before membership [03:01] yes the agenda looks plenty of stuff [03:03] meeting starts [03:03] @now [03:03] Current time in Etc/UTC: June 26 2007, 13:03:27 - Current meeting: Community Council [03:04] good luck hjmf. i'll be there [03:06] Admiral_Chicago: thanks [03:13] ...this gonna take long [03:13] hjmf: should i drop my texta bout you to wiki? [03:13] (too) [03:14] asac: do it please [03:14] asac: if you wish [03:14] asac: I think it will be enough to support me at the meeting :) [03:15] hjmf: yeah problem is i have fear to miss [03:15] i will be here though :) [03:16] you have wiki link? [03:16] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HMontoliu [03:16] asac: send a pm to me or Admiral_Chicago if you are gonna miss it just saying htat you support him for membership and why [03:16] that should be plenty, since nomrally we pm seveas as secretary [03:17] ^^^ easy way [03:17] i'll be there, let me know [03:25] gnomefreak: i added my text to wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HMontoliu [03:25] asac: ty [03:25] gnomefreak: in case i don't jump in quick ... paste it thanks! [03:26] asac: you got it [03:29] asac: thank you :) === gnomefreak really hates trolls [03:38] why do people talk polish in -meeting? [03:38] and are not kicked? [03:38] asac: is serbian [03:38] dunno but's quite boring [03:38] ... i hate patriotism :) [03:38] :) [03:40] so does scp -r follow links? [03:41] probably not [03:42] yeah ... but still i do a find alex/ | grep png$ | wc -l ... and get about 30 [03:42] but if i scp -r alex ... i see about 2000 png files being copied [03:44] find . -name '*png' -exec scp {} \; [03:44] will copy those you find [03:44] yeah i know [03:44] but scp -r should work as well [03:45] i am just scared [03:45] no idea where those files are [03:45] ah :) [03:45] check the syntax of the scp, maybe is recursively coping dirs [03:47] its ment to [03:47] it should copy all [03:47] its a backup run [03:47] but apparently it also copies files from withing my /usr/share/ ... dir [03:47] loads and loads of pngs [03:47] and whatever else [03:47] weird [03:48] this gives me really bad feeling [03:48] appears to copy whole disk [03:49] interestingly enough it didn't do this when i copied alex by cp -a to /tmp/ [03:49] because i wanted to clean things up [03:49] first [03:50] ok now i tarred this up [03:50] so i surrendered [03:52] ok now i wipe this piece of shit (sorry for my aggressive wording, but i try to backup this system for 5 hours or so now) [03:53] yeah I know how frustrating can be shit :( [03:55] yay new kernel :( [03:57] yeah ... its getting better. ... my intermediate storage was on a broken hd ... which is probably why i got this wierd behaviour ... now i only copied trash ... back to square one [04:02] hjmf: how many before you are on topic? [04:02] 9 [04:02] I'm the 9th [04:02] they have finished with loco's [04:02] hes 9th [04:03] thats assuming everyone is here [04:05] i hate complicated updates [04:05] so probably its 2h :) [04:06] i have to reboot im hoping crimsun gets back to me before i do [04:07] ok in 1h I have phone conference about 1.8.0 security support [04:07] screw it ill brb i hope [04:11] 6 to go === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [04:25] did i miss the first 3 items on agenda? [04:25] gnomefreak: yea [04:25] did they miss it or just me [04:25] before loco teams [04:26] they skip them [04:26] :( [04:26] they wanted to ping dfarning for the derivative team [04:27] Admiral_Chicago told them that he is not around for some time [04:27] oh o i saw thar [04:27] that [04:30] i put my thing on your wiki so i dont flood -meeting with it [04:31] gnomefreak: thank you [04:32] there fixed it :) [04:32] anytime === jerome_ [n=jerome@gra94-2-82-66-142-60.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [04:51] hjmf: im on phone and looks like it will be a little while can you please point them to the thing i left on your wiki? [04:52] sure, but it gonna take a bit long there are still 3 before [04:54] ty [04:54] ok ... 5 minutes till conference :( [04:54] how many to go? [04:54] hello [04:55] ah ok 3 [04:55] gnomefreak: Admiral_Chicago asac tonyyarusso I'm the next after the one now [04:55] asac: no just one [04:55] oh [04:55] cross-fingers :) [04:55] okay i'm there [04:56] asac: pm dholbach as he already ask for that for people who had to be away [04:56] i did [04:56] asac: ty [04:58] i would like to join the ubuntu-mozillateam [04:59] Admiral_Chicago: ty [05:07] what did i miss? [05:08] hjmf: did you not go this time? [05:09] no i think they are ajourning [05:09] there is another meeting [05:09] they are [05:09] hjmf: hmmm ok [05:09] jerome_: hey ... let us know what you like to do? [05:09] sucks...sorry hjmf [05:10] asac : well I think bug triaging would be a good start [05:10] jerome_: beginner or advanced? [05:10] that would be a good start [05:10] yeah I could made this evening for this, probable next time will be more difficult [05:10] hjmf: usually CC meetings are late at night [05:10] asac : well I don't really know, have a look : https://bugs.launchpad.net/~jerome-guelfucci [05:10] hjmf: this time was an exception imo [05:11] let's hope :( [05:11] jerome_: looks good .... please read the page about tags and states on the wiki [05:11] we have a slightly refined bug workflow [05:12] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/States [05:12] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Tags [05:13] asac : ok I'm reading [05:14] jerome_: might not be 100% up-to-date ... but should give you the idea [05:15] jerome_: actually all tags are associated with a more a less similar/recurring task ... so mt-needtestcase for instance tags bugs that triagers can work on to get a good testcase out of them [05:16] and until there is a step-by-step instruciton the bug cannot move forward ... et al [05:16] asac : i see [05:16] just let me know if there is something not comprehensible from tex [05:16] t [05:16] asac : ok, the basic status of launchpad are not precise enough ? [05:17] thats right i forgot there was the kernel-team meeting 2hours after CC [05:17] jerome_: yes [05:17] they don't let you pick a task [05:17] asac : ok perfect [05:17] jerome_: as a side effect we can discover triaging-bugs [05:17] e.g. bugs that have been bounced to other state by people that don't know what they do [05:18] asac : like me two days ago :) [05:18] e.g. if you have a not valid tag state combination on a bug the bug should be reviewed by a mozillateam triager [05:18] ah :) [05:18] ok i understand [05:18] jerome_: i think i discovered you in maillogs though [05:18] jerome_: for instance we have a bughelper result [05:18] http://daniel.holba.ch/bugs/firefox.html [05:19] 'Wrong Status/Tag-Combination for Status 'Confirmed'' .. those are bugs that are candidates to be triaging bugs [05:19] howevever bughelper is not perfect and if there are multiple tasks associated with a bug it gets confused [05:19] so there are false-positives in that list [05:19] asac : ok, this gets updated automatically ? [05:19] jerome_: yes [05:19] every 3 hours or so [05:19] asac : great ! [05:20] jerome_: for instance http://launchpad.net/bugs/73536 ... this might be a false-positive [05:20] Launchpad bug 73536 in firefox "MASTER Firefox crashes on instant X server shutdown" [Medium,In progress] [05:20] because its in progress + confirmed [05:20] anyway ... that list gives a good starter where to clean things up [05:20] e.g. look at bugs with wrong state and see whats going on [05:21] maybe it has been confirmed by some user ... without any request to get a testcase et al [05:21] ok [05:21] you could use bug 122309 as an example [05:21] Launchpad bug 122309 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122309 [05:21] i will read this carefully and then start working :) [05:21] i'm away [05:22] jerome_: yes just triage right away [05:22] if we see any bugs in the way you work we will let you know :) [05:22] asac : ok perfect === jerome_ will be carefull :) [05:22] jerome_: another important tag is mt-upstream [05:23] those need to be searched in bugzilla [05:23] and if you tried hard but didn't find a duplicate comment this in bug [05:23] when 2-3 triagers have done this we gonna move tag to mt-postupstream [05:23] ok [05:23] that well organised ! [05:23] jerome_: anyway .. just go ahead ;) [05:23] *that's [05:24] there are too many bugs for firefox ... and if we don't do it this way, bugs might get lost in the noise ... and never processed :) [05:24] asac : ok I will try to do my best, I will start tomorrow (have a few bugs to report upstream) [05:24] asac: what are we doing with gtk_relize, we cant fix in feisty at all seeing as this is a totem code issue do we look on gnomes bugzilla for upstream? [05:24] asac : well i can see that === gnomefreak didnt find much of crap on mozillas bugzilla [05:25] example bug 91334 [05:25] Launchpad bug 91334 in firefox "MASTER (variant) Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize] " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91334 [05:28] I'm off for a while, thank you all for staying around for the meeting. You rock :) [05:28] also seems to be fixed in gutsy [05:33] hjmf: cu ... and sorry [05:33] hjmf: i should have encouraged you earlier ... then you would have been further on top of the list [05:40] this is odd [05:46] theme manager freezes :( [05:46] gnome? [05:46] yeah [05:47] its called appearence [05:47] gnomefreak: gtk_style_realize was fixed in gutsy? [05:47] no matter how i open it it never fully loads [05:47] asac: as far as i can tell when it wasnt freezing but now i cant test it as i cant get theme to open fullly === gnomefreak goes for smoke and let this load if it will [05:51] ok monitor is now plugged elsewhere ... so expect no response until gutsy install is done [05:59] asac: it was just bad luck :) [06:00] 533 open reports, we just need to close 34 for a new record < 500 :) [06:03] Host 'GutsyGibbon', running Linux 2.6.22-7-generic - Cpu0: Intel 1681 MHz; Up: 1:53; Users: 3; Load: 0.18; Free: [Mem: 9/249 Mio] [Swap: 611/729 Mio] [/: 17889/37872 Mio] ; Vpenis: 31.1 cm; === gnomefreak gone for a while [06:14] hjmf, heya! [06:15] new member? [06:19] bluekuja: nope, the meeting got out of time before my turn, bad luck :/ [06:19] awwwww [06:19] when there will be next cc meeting? [06:19] (to be decided?) [06:19] yes [06:19] where's asac? [06:20] gonna be away for whole evening/night? [06:33] bluekuja: of course not [06:33] haha [06:33] :) [06:33] i am installing gutsy on my old system [06:33] oh :D [06:33] hjmf: yuhuu [06:33] 500 ... that would be a dream [06:34] we are close to it :) [06:34] asac: I've started putting down some lines for the mail [06:34] it has to be perfect in every point [07:15] hjmf: lets accelerate ... tribe-2 will have apport enabled [07:15] hurry hurry === dotpavan [n=pavan@d00-129-24-143-178.dhcp.unm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [07:48] asac: remember what app was crashing on me after the glib warning? [07:48] vlc [07:49] ty [07:55] asac: cool :P [07:55] actually i have the feeling that the apport package my system is currently pulling has it already enabled [07:55] ... so maybe we will not make the 500 [08:05] asac: noticed a bunch of crashes [08:05] let's have fun [08:05] asac: I've filed bug 122374 [08:05] Launchpad bug 122374 in gxine "added Xb-Npp-xxx tags accordingly to "firefox distro add-on suport" spec" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122374 [08:05] for gxineplugin [08:07] asac: 2 of the three new crashes are from people with kernel 2.6.22-6 so I'll reject them, but one is from kernel 2.6.22-7 and it doesn't have coredump nor retraces either [08:08] that one is bug 122350 [08:08] Launchpad bug 122350 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122350 [08:10] hjmf: really? [08:11] yep, maybe the kernel issue is not fixed on -7 [08:13] hjmf: why is there no apport hoook info? [08:13] what firefox package introduced those? [08:14] the last one [08:14] they dont seem to have attached our hook [08:15] who is they? [08:15] i mean ... we ship the hook ;) [08:15]