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Shred01how would you guys feel about packaging a real upstart script for the backend rather than the initscript that is currently being packaged?12:43
superm1_Shred01, that sounds like a great idea12:43
superm1_especially if you've learned how to do upstart scripts now :)12:44
Shred01superm1: they're actually quite simple (at least) for the straightforward cases.12:45
Shred01my frontend upstart script:12:45
Shred01start on started mythtv-backend12:46
Shred01exec su - mythtv -c "exec /usr/bin/xinit /usr/bin/mythfrontend --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log"12:46
Shred01post-start script12:46
Shred01    su - mythtv -c "DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/nvidia-settings -l"12:46
Shred01end script12:46
superm1_use pastebin for such things in the future, Shred0112:46
superm1_!pastebin | Shred0112:46
ubotuShred01: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:46
superm1_well mythbackend is a bit more complex of a case i would say though12:47
superm1_depending on networking, nfs, mysql12:47
Shred01yeah, you are right.  i just hate the context change back forth between the browser and the irc client12:47
Shred01superm1: yeah, i've just been discussing with the upstart folks.  unfortunately the old initscripts don't emit event information, so we'd just have mythbackend wait until rc2 was complete12:48
superm1well gutsy is supposed to replace a lot of that12:49
superm1from what i've heard discussed in #Ubuntu-devel12:49
Shred01yeah, it was supposed to be feisty but that didn't quite happen12:50
superm1well if you want to prep an upstart style script instead for the backend, i'm all for it.  for now have it go once rc2 is done, and when the upstart guys migrate the old init style scripts over, switch this over12:51
Shred01right.01:11
Shred01let me see what i can do.  time is tight tonight.01:12
superm1Shred01, take your time, whenever you get a moment01:13
superm1Daviey, go to bed already?02:24
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superm1Xenocide, any news?02:54
Xenocidesuperm1,  your right on how slow they are, she promised to email me my appointment with HR for orientation this morning, never did02:54
superm1you gonna be on sametime tomororow?02:54
superm1haha02:54
Xenocideshe told me i have it, just waiting on her and HR02:54
superm1yup that's always the hang up02:55
Xenocideshe said she would "love to have me on board"02:55
Xenocideshe better hurry up, im only in raleigh till aug 14th02:55
Xenocidenot much time to work02:55
superm1well depending on how active you are with this conversion, they can always make you a remote intern02:56
superm1too02:56
Xenocidethat would be freaking sweet02:57
Xenocideif i could work say, weekends from charlotte02:57
superm1they did that for my old roomate02:57
superm1he is a grad student and still works remotely02:57
Xenocideill have to discuss that come begining of august02:57
superm1for 6-12 hrs02:57
superm1so any eta?03:00
Xenocidehell03:00
Xenocidewho knows03:00
Xenocideshe told me she was going to email me at 403:00
Xenocidethats 5 hours ago03:00
superm1whats her name?03:01
Xenocidemerrilee tillison i think03:01
Xenocidesomething like that03:01
superm1no results for that name03:01
Xenocidetomlinson03:01
Xenocidewhy?03:01
superm1ah found her03:02
superm1she's set as away, likely gone for the evening then03:02
Xenocideshes been working from home03:02
superm1ah a build manager she is03:02
superm1was she supposed to email your or the HR person though?03:03
Xenocideyup03:03
Xenocideshe was03:03
Xenocidei still haven't throw in an application or anything03:03
Xenocidestil have to do all that junk03:03
superm1oh your not going to be working for at least another 1-2 weeks then03:03
superm1did you to IPAT yet?03:03
Xenocide...03:03
Xenocidei haevn't done anything03:03
Xenocideshe just called me03:03
Xenocideasked me to speak to this guy03:03
Xenocidethen said, alright you got a job03:03
superm1haha03:04
superm1well you've got some time to go then03:04
Xenocide...03:04
Xenocideif i wait 1-2 weeks ill only be working for 3-4 weeks03:04
superm1should have done this sooner!03:04
Xenocideits not my fault!03:04
Xenocidei mean i have an application in at ibm03:05
Xenocidebut not this job03:05
superm1well probably not the full application every new emp needs to do though03:05
Xenocideshe said she didn't have a position opend till she talked to me03:05
superm1did it take you about 40min - hr to finish03:05
Xenocideno03:05
Xenocideyour killing me here man03:05
superm1and go over your job history, address history, all that stuff03:05
superm1ah03:05
superm1haha03:05
Xenocideim was expecting to be in there by the end of the week03:05
superm1well unless they find a way to push you around the politics03:06
superm1(unlikely)03:06
Xenocidei hate you03:06
Xenocidehahha03:06
superm1hey at least i'm telling you how it is :)03:06
Xenocidebahhh03:06
superm1speaking of which03:07
superm1i should get back home already03:07
superm1its getting late here03:07
superm1see ya03:11
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ubotuNew bug: #119542 in ubiquity (main) "Mythbuntu installation crash. syslog and partman contents. (dup-of: 119055)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11954209:01
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tuxie_flgood morning.  Why can't i get any zap2it listings??  I could a few days ago ;(09:25
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lagatuxie_fl: do you get any errors?12:23
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tuxie_flmorning laga02:58
tuxie_flyeah, found the error, thanks03:03
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superm1morning guys03:22
superm1Daviey, i got up earlier foru03:22
Davieymorning superm103:24
DavieyCan you give me 5 mins?03:24
superm1\sure03:24
Davieyback03:33
Davieyright lets work on these meta packages.. :)03:34
superm1indeed03:35
superm1so in the bzr branch find that seeds directory03:35
superm1thats where the magic needs to start03:36
Davieyk03:36
superm1the files in that directory are used to describe what is included in different metas after germination03:37
Davieydoh03:38
superm1so these seeds will sit on mythbuntu.org when done03:38
DavieyAre you using bazar on gutsy?03:38
superm1feisty03:38
Davieyseems broken on gutsy03:39
Davieybetter reboot into fesity03:39
Davieybrb03:39
Davieyback03:41
superm1so on pegaus, /var/www/seeds is already symlinked to the bzr location03:42
superm1in the branch03:42
superm1so you commit your changes, and then bzrupdate on pegasus and the seeds are ready03:42
Davieyokay03:44
superm1last time i touched it was when mythbuntu was feisty based03:45
superm1so its gotta be bumped to gutsy03:45
Davieyokay.. i've cp'd /feisty to /gutsy03:46
Davieyso i need to go through all the files and change settings to gutsy stuff first?03:47
superm1well at least download the gutsy ubuntu-meta source and compare how it's done, if there are any relevant changes03:47
superm1i provided a preinst and postinst03:47
superm1that start doing some stuff from mythbuntu_install.sh03:47
superm1but there is going to be a few things missing yet03:48
superm1also, any config files that end up being shipped by cat > file << eof need to be made into real files03:48
superm1which i started to do03:49
DavieyWhere can i find ubuntu-meta?03:49
DavieyIt isn't in the repo?03:49
superm1apt-get source ubuntu-meta03:49
superm1Get:2 http://mirror.cs.umn.edu gutsy/main ubuntu-meta 1.48 (tar) [22.7kB] 03:49
Davieyhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/source/ubuntu-meta03:50
Davieyi was looking for binary packages, doh03:50
DavieyHmm.. has the structure changed significantly?03:53
Davieyhttp://pastebin.ca/raw/59028403:53
superm1well mythbuntu seeds don't need all that03:54
superm1we don't have a desktop, minimal, mobile, or standard target03:54
superm1just live and standalone03:55
Davieyso i can just rm them?03:55
superm1should be able to03:55
Davieysuperm1: is the file 'supported' used?04:10
superm1Daviey, i'm not sure - i think so04:10
superm1for the might be easier to leave it out though and only add if it ends up necessary04:11
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Davieyokay, i'm trying to use a diff and merge tool; but they seem radically different04:12
superm1well the big investments are in debian/ configuration/ and bin/04:20
superm1perhaps kubuntu-meta might make a better seed base - you can look at that as an option too04:21
Davieyokay04:22
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DavieyGutsy seems to have a structure of a new seed file for each arch'04:23
Davieywhere as feisty's default had it bundled in one?04:23
superm1are you looking at the seeds on the website under that home directory for ubuntu-archive?04:24
superm1or in the ubuntu-meta directory04:24
superm1because the arch dependent ones are generated04:24
superm1by the germination command04:24
Davieyah04:25
DavieyI'm comparing mythbuntu-meta/seeds/ubuntu-meta-1.49 to .../feisty04:26
superm1ah same thing i ran into when i first started04:26
superm1look at ubuntu-meta-1.49/update.cfg04:26
superm1there is a link in there04:26
superm1to where the base seeds are obtained04:26
Davieyi saw that, but rm'ed it :)04:26
Davieyahhh.. am i comparing seeds ti output_seeds?04:27
superm1output_seeds?04:30
superm1um dont know04:30
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rogue780superm1, can you do me a favor?04:42
superm1whats that rogue780 ?04:42
rogue780can you go to http://68.55.176.33 and see if you can access my mythweb? I'm trying out .htaccess seeing if I can get it to work04:44
superm1works as expected04:45
superm1can't get to it04:45
superm1and good you have a pw on phpmyadmin too04:45
rogue780sweet. thanks04:46
rogue780I'm going to image my drive now. bbl04:46
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superm1_keescook, later on today would you have some time to revu another mythbuntu related theming package?05:19
keescooksuperm1_: I think so -- what's the URL?05:20
superm1_http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=575205:20
rogue780superm1_, I just reloaded my system...any idea why my frontend can't connect to the database? everything is correct as far as username, ip address, and password is concerned05:57
rogue780nevermind06:00
keescooksuperm1_: commented and +1'd06:02
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superm1Daviey, making sense of the seeds?06:19
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rxbanitChanServ: i am having trouble with mythweb, anyone able to help?09:58
rxbaniti am having trouble with mythweb, anyone able to help?09:59
lagatry #mythtv-users and ask a *real* question10:04
lagathere are more people in that channel10:04
lagai've got to go now, good luck :)10:05
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superm1bdmurray, are you the one who responded to me on mythtv-users?10:51
superm1(the mailing list)10:51
superm1me being my mailing list address mario.mailing10:51
bdmurraysuperm1: not that I know of10:53
superm1bdmurray, ah you had the same domain (outflux.net) and the other guy was a brian murray too.  so wasn't sure :)10:54
bdmurrayhunh?  I know who owns outflux.net and there is only 1 brian murray. :)10:55
superm1coulda sworn it was an outflux.net address10:58
superm1let me double check the archive10:58
superm1i could just be crazy :)10:58
superm1and apparently i am.  it was interlinx.bc.ca10:59
superm1don't know how i mixed those two up10:59
superm1and his last name was Murrell10:59
superm1wow.  oops :)10:59
bdmurraythey both have 'X's10:59
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DaveMorriswhats the command to add something to the default start again?12:02
DaveMorrisfound it12:03
superm1DaveMorris, next mythtv package and the first mythbuntu meta will represent the change you wanted12:06
superm1to disable auto login12:06
superm1easily12:06
superm1each of them will ship a gdm.conf, with ubuntu-mythtv-frontend having a higher priority one12:07
superm1so once ubuntu-mythtv-frontend is removed, the auto login goes away12:07
superm1if mythbuntu-standalone is removed, the mythbuntu gdm theme goes away too12:07
superm1so mythbuntu control centre can simply add or remove the ubuntu-mythtv-frontend package to turn on and off auto login functionality then12:09
DaveMorrissuperm1 please telling me the auto log out is in the ubuntu frontend packages!12:09
superm1the autologout - that's still gotta be figured out :)12:10
DaveMorrisis not even12:10
DaveMorrisauto login I didn't have a problem with :P12:10
superm1ohhh....12:10
superm1haha12:10
superm1well then i solved the problem you were gonna have12:10
superm1yes thats it12:10
DaveMorriscan we at least make the auto logout mythbuntu only12:11
superm1well I know how to solve the autologout problem though12:11
superm1the same way mythwelcome is approached12:11
DaveMorrissounds good12:11
superm1there is a /etc/default/mythtv-session or something like that (don't have it in front of me)12:11
superm1with env variables12:11
superm1like MYTHWELCOME=yes12:11
superm1AUTOLOGOUT can be another one added12:12
superm1and such things can just be modified there then12:12
superm1i'll add that later on12:12
superm1but still this doesn't approach how there are a lot of things control centre would need to change that need root priv.12:13
superm1putting 'mythtv' in the wheel group isn't exactly a 'solution' either12:14
DaveMorriscan you not have restricted admin rights12:14
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DaveMorrisactually12:14
superm1well its root or nothing12:14
superm1i thought12:14
DaveMorrisjust allow the mythtv user write access to those files12:14
superm1well it depends on what stuff was going to be in the control centre12:14
superm1i was thinking like a button for restricted manager12:14
superm1(which needs root)12:15
superm1or nvidia-settings12:15
superm1or aticonfig12:15
superm1*amdcccle12:15
superm1which all need root too12:15
superm1the only solution i can see is having it auto login to the regular user's account12:17
superm1and then using gksudo as necessary12:18
superm1it really is a creative problem12:19
DaveMorrishow about12:19
DaveMorrisssh -X dave@localhost 'sudo nvidia-config'12:19
superm1well that assumes X forwarding is enabled12:20
DaveMorriswhichit is by default12:20
superm1and that you know the user account name12:20
superm1and that ssh is installed12:20
DaveMorriswe do know the name, we install it!12:20
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superm1dont you need to open port 6000 for that to work still though?12:20
superm1for X11 to forward12:20
DaveMorrisnope, it forwards back over the ssh connection12:21
DaveMorrisalthough you'll prob wanna setup password less login's and its not the nicest way12:21
superm1well if you generate a user specific ssh key12:22
superm1but at that point, is it better just to do this all as the user12:23
superm1than bother with ssh'ing to localhost12:23
superm1and making assumptions12:23

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