[12:29] <kalikiana> Is there some gnumeric expert present? I'd like to know what's the laziest way to put dates and prices in a table and calculate daily and monthly averages.
[01:30] <cheeseboy> how i get info about my videocard from terminal?
[01:32] <vidd> cheeseboy, lspci
[01:32] <cheeseboy> vidd theres too much stuff
[01:33] <cheeseboy> whats a word i can grep ?
[01:33] <vidd> VGA
[01:36] <cheeseboy> vidd how i get bus identifier?
[01:40] <DaBeowulf> I'm going nuts. I did a new install of Xubuntu Feisty and now I can't run unshield after I installed it the same way I did it twice before this new install.
[01:41] <DaBeowulf> And I tried it more than once on this install now, redownloading the packages from other mirrors...
[01:42] <DaBeowulf> When I try to run it after installing it I get "bash: /usr/bin/unshield: No such file or directory" although it sits right there O_o
[01:43] <DaBeowulf> Could it be that my harddisk is finally breaking?
[01:43] <DaBeowulf> It's from 1999.
[01:44] <vidd> cheeseboy, no idea
[02:11] <homebrewcider> I have a canon mp510, I can print okay, but how can i scan? Can anybody help me please?
[02:18] <cellofellow> anybody know anything about OpenAL? I have a few games that make no sound because of something wrong with it.
[02:20] <cellofellow> josh@lordpenguin:~$ warzone2100
[02:20] <cellofellow> error:      OpenAL Vendor: OpenAL Community
[02:20] <cellofellow> OpenAL Version: 1.1
[02:20] <cellofellow> OpenAL Renderer: Software
[02:20] <cellofellow> OpenAL Extensions: ALC_EXT_capture AL_EXT_capture AL_EXT_vorbis AL_EXT_MP3 AL_LOKI_quadriphonic AL_LOKI_play_position AL_LOKI_WAVE_format AL_LOKI_IMA_ADPCM_format AL_LOKI_buffer_data_callback ALC_LOKI_audio_channel
[02:20] <cellofellow> error:      Couldn't initialize audio context: ALC_INVALID_DEVICE
[02:20] <cellofellow> ooops, should have pastebinned, sorry
[02:21] <cellofellow> !openal
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <cellofellow> !shootthebot
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shootthebot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <DaBeowulf> Hmm mine ran fine when I installed openal through Synaptic
[02:22] <cellofellow> !info openal
[02:22] <ubotu> Package openal does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:22] <cellofellow> package?
[02:23] <cellofellow> DaBeowulf: what package name?
[02:23] <DaBeowulf> libopenal0a
[02:23] <cellofellow> ok
[02:23] <DaBeowulf> !info libopenal0a
[02:23] <ubotu> libopenal0a: OpenAL is a portable library for 3D spatialized audio. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.8-3 (feisty), package size 122 kB, installed size 336 kB
[02:23] <cellofellow> why not a depend of these games I wonder.
[02:24] <DaBeowulf> Why does it tell me no such file when I need unshield, though :(
[02:25] <DaBeowulf> It sits right there in /usr/bin/ grr
[02:25] <cellofellow> is it executable?
[02:25] <DaBeowulf> Yes.
[02:26] <cellofellow> libopenal0a was installed already. I reconfigured, and that didn't do anything.
[02:28] <cellofellow> never mind, that did work.
[02:28] <DaBeowulf> What disk programs like scandisk or defrag etc. are there for ubuntu?
[02:28] <cellofellow> now with the game quit, the sound keeps singing.
[02:29] <cellofellow> e2fsck will check your disk. No defrag available, cause of no need.
[02:33] <DaBeowulf> where can I look up my device name? >_<
[02:33] <cellofellow> for what type of device? Hard drive?
[02:33] <DaBeowulf> yes
[02:33] <cellofellow> df -h
[02:34] <DaBeowulf> Thanks.
[02:35] <DaBeowulf> =o need to unmount it first :s
[02:49] <w00t> hey guys quick question: how would i go about installing an icon pack for xfce?
[02:52] <crimsun> the same way you would for any xdg-/fd.o-enabled app.
[02:53] <w00t> ? im trying to install an icon "theme" for like everything..
[02:53] <w00t> default folders, files etc..
[02:54] <crimsun> right, so drop it into ~/.icons
[02:54] <w00t> just the zip file right?
[02:56] <w00t> ah, had to extract the tarball...thanks crimson
[02:57] <w00t> crimsun
[03:25] <Odd_Bloke> Hey guys, I'm running Xubuntu Tribe 1 and my entire X session seems to seize up every few minutes.  It responds only to Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, I cannot even use Ctrl-Alt-Fn to analyse what's going on.  Any ideas as to what I can do to stop this?
[03:25] <Jester45> try #xubuntu-devel
[03:26] <Odd_Bloke> Jester45: Cheers.
[03:27] <jtg23> ubuntu is debian right?
[03:27] <Odd_Bloke> jtg23: Ubuntu has a Debian base.
[03:28] <maxamillion> jtg23: yes, more or less
[03:28] <jtg23> i can run gpgp on xubuntu then?
[03:28] <maxamillion> jtg23: ubuntu started as a snapshot of the debian sid branch, but they now maintain alot of their own code/packages apart from debian versions
[03:28] <maxamillion> jtg23: of course
[03:28] <jtg23> and that's compatible with gpg on  my mac?
[03:29] <maxamillion> jtg23: depends on the version you have on your mac, but yes ... it should be
[03:29] <jtg23> pimp tighit
[03:29] <jtg23> i'm Getting Things Done now
[03:30] <jtg23> and btw i saw revolution os last night and want to know more about these alleged installfests
[03:30] <maxamillion> jtg23: you can install gpgp from the ubuntu repositories with aptitude, apt-get, synaptic, etc... just as you could from the debian repositories when running debian
[03:30] <maxamillion> jtg23: revolution os?
[03:30] <jtg23> max1M thx, i'm new to the whole using linux on my desktop thing
[03:30] <jtg23> yea, the open source movie
[03:31] <maxamillion> never seen it
[03:31] <jtg23> it's uber geeky
[03:31] <maxamillion> jtg23: i've been running linux as my only operating system for almost 8 years now
[03:31] <jtg23> but incidnetally not licensed under the gpl
[03:32] <jtg23> then you should definitely watch it, this movie kinda goes back wit hte people from va linux and red hat and back to rms
[03:32] <maxamillion> jtg23: back then there weren't movies promoting our open source wonders
[03:32] <jtg23> yeah, i first put red hat on my notebook back in 00 and it was whack
[03:33] <jtg23> so i put win2k back on it and lost my cd drive leaving win2k on that computer until its death but then i went mac
[03:33] <jtg23> and i've been administering linux servers (or gnu/linux servers if i want to be politically correct, apparently) for 6 or so years
[03:33] <maxamillion> jtg23: yeah, late 1999 is when i started ... and i actually started with redhat, but then found my way to debian and haven't looked back
[03:33] <jtg23> i'm most familiar with fedora core
[03:34] <maxamillion> jtg23: to stay politically correct, fedora core is now just "fedora" ;)
[03:34] <jtg23> but i want to help expand access and interest to young people
[03:34] <jtg23> yeah, but i'm most familiar with fedora core :)
[03:34] <jtg23> so i'm learning ubuntu/xubuntu/debian
[03:34] <maxamillion> cool cool
[03:34] <jtg23> plus i just got a job as a debian admin so i need ot get up to speed
[03:34] <maxamillion> oh, awesome
[03:35] <jtg23> i'm compiling my kernel right now so as to hopefully get wifi on my airlink card
[03:35] <jtg23> supposedly it's supported natively as of 2.18 so i'm doing 2.wahteverthenewestis
[03:35] <zeroonlinux> P2 128mb memory 4Gb harddisk notebook but no cdrom drive.. anyone can help me on this? how to install linux distro for this unit?
[03:36] <maxamillion> jtg23: debian etch comes default with 2.6.18 and xubuntu feisty comes with 2.6.20 ... why you compiling a kernel?
[03:36] <jtg23> zeroonlinux ethernet?
[03:36] <maxamillion> zeroonlinux: lemme get you a link
[03:36] <zeroonlinux> it has a network card
[03:36] <zeroonlinux> but i can't boot from it
[03:36] <zeroonlinux> :(
[03:36] <maxamillion> zeroonlinux: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-ubuntukubuntuedubuntuxubuntu-without-cdrom-drive.html
[03:37] <maxamillion> zeroonlinux: that tutorial has many options on how to install without a cd-rom
[03:37] <maxamillion> zeroonlinux: hope it helps
[03:37] <jtg23> maxamillion i got 6.06 but taht's not a good sign because i had 7.04 on last night and couldn't get the airlink or the linksys (broadcom, tried fwcutter) to work
[03:38] <zeroonlinux> maxamillion i heared that xubuntu is also ok for a slow pc?
[03:39] <jtg23> zerronlinux i have it on a 450mhz gateway with 288mb ram and it's pretty good
[03:39] <maxamillion> jtg23: hmmm... that's not good at all, especially since ubuntu-base is compiled with almost all hardware support by default
[03:39] <jtg23> if i could get the @#$% wifi working
[03:39] <maxamillion> zeroonlinux: yeah
[03:39] <jtg23> i've been on this for days, might it just not be possible to do?
[03:39] <jtg23> with my hardware specs?  i don't see why it wouldn't be since it's owrked for others
[03:39] <maxamillion> jtg23: might not ... have you checked the wifi docs?
[03:40] <maxamillion> !wifi | jtg23
[03:40] <ubotu> jtg23: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:40] <maxamillion> jtg23: lots of good info there, even tutorials about specific chipsets ... maybe they have stuff on the one you have
[03:41] <jtg23> yeah, thing is, they do, but eventually the tutorials i've found and the official docs i've found deviate from my experience
[03:41] <zeroonlinux> oops i forgot no floppy drive also
[03:41] <zeroonlinux> :(
[03:41] <zeroonlinux> :(
[03:41] <jtg23> could there be an outside hardware issue interfering?  i mean can it be related to my bios, for instance?
[03:42] <jtg23> zero can you use that hard drive as a slave and install from the one you're currently on?
[03:42] <jtg23> that's what i'd do
[03:43] <maxamillion> jtg23: well, it could have to do with your bios or your motherboard ... but as long as the bios has the card enabled and the system sees it, then you should be fine
[03:43] <jtg23> wtf then....under dapper it doesnt' even see it but it suppsoedly works under feisty
[03:43] <maxamillion> jtg23: have you tried grep-ing lspci for the chipset to make sure its detected?
[03:44] <jtg23> i'm updating my kernel now so i can only hoep that it was another soemthing in 7.04 interfering or otherwise it's hardware related
[03:44] <jtg23> yeah, it detects it
[03:44] <jtg23> i just can't grab an ip
[03:44] <jtg23> and oddly i don't even get a 169.... ip, i just get no line item for inet addr
[03:44] <maxamillion> jtg23: when you do "ifconfig -a" does it list it as an interface?
[03:46] <jtg23> not in 6.06 but did in 7.04 (with the caveat taht there was no inet addr)
[03:47] <jtg23> and the airlink supposedly only worked with "Network Manager" which i couldn't install cuz it had 2 deps that depended on each other, oddly
[03:47] <jtg23> but then i realized i could get internet to this puter by hooking ethernet to the usb
[03:47] <jtg23> and that has made more options available; yesterday i was doing all this by modifying the apt-get source.list and copying from a thumb drive
[03:47] <jtg23> over and over and over again
[03:48] <jtg23> think it'd crash trying to make a screencast of the kernel compilation?
[03:49] <maxamillion> jtg23: naw
[03:49] <maxamillion> jtg23: you know what, you might need to install a wifi manager ... like wifi-radar or network-manager-gnome
[03:50] <jtg23> right, network-manager-gnome is what i was referring to
[03:51] <maxamillion> jtg23: try "iwlist <interface> scan" (where <interface> is the net card interface) and see if you get anything listed (assuming you are in range of a wifi network)
[03:51] <jtg23> while my kernel's going?
[03:51] <jtg23> is that safe?
[03:51] <jtg23> it's doing something mission critical i think
[03:51] <maxamillion> jtg23: yeah, your just compiling a kernel ... compiling a kernel is just like compiling software ... to the compiler, its just software and currently your machine is still on the kernel that booted your machine
[03:52] <jtg23> oh good, i was confused about that
[03:52] <jtg23> i'm building it and then i'm going to remap it for reboot?
[03:52] <maxamillion> jtg23: exactly
[03:52] <maxamillion> jtg23: you will map the newly compiled kernel once its done compiling
[03:52] <jtg23> interface doesn't support scanning?
[03:53] <jtg23> well i think it doesn't detect the card at all
[03:53] <maxamillion> jtg23: uhmmm... that's not good
[03:53] <jtg23> right this is 6.06 now
[03:53] <maxamillion> jtg23: very sorry, but my dog needs to go out ... brb
[03:53] <jtg23> it was detected in 7.04 but wouldn't work
[03:53] <jtg23> oh yeah, i hear ya np
[03:59] <maxamillion> annnd back
[04:00] <maxamillion> jtg23: honestly, as much of a pain in the hind parts as it might be ... you are probably going to need to install feisty in order to get this working
[04:00] <jtg23> 6.1
[04:00] <jtg23> ?
[04:00] <jtg23> 6.1 over 7.04?
[04:00] <maxamillion> jtg23: 7.10
[04:00] <jtg23> 7.10?!
[04:00] <maxamillion> jtg23: 7.04 is edgy
[04:01] <jtg23> 7.10 tribe?
[04:01] <maxamillion> uhmm... wait
[04:01] <maxamillion> ha!
[04:01] <jtg23> you're confusing me more than i was confused
[04:01] <maxamillion> jtg23: sorry, my mistake
[04:01] <jtg23> i have tried 6.06 and 7.04
[04:01] <jtg23> but not 7.1 or 6.1
[04:02] <maxamillion> jtg23: 6.06 is dapper, 6.10 is edgy, and 7.04 is feisty
[04:02] <jtg23> ohkay and you're advocating 7.04
[04:02] <maxamillion> jtg23: 7.04 is what we need to look into
[04:02] <jtg23> snap well i feel like vidd and i exhausted options on that stack
[04:03] <jtg23> well, ya know...i can boot from cd now right?  and try the drivers out of the box with the cards?
[04:03] <maxamillion> jtg23: sure can, if the support is supposed to be built in we can try it with the live-cd
[04:03] <jtg23> ok well....how long does a kernel compile take?
[04:04] <jtg23> i love this error message for screensaver not found btw ;)
[04:04] <maxamillion> jtg23: depending on your hardware it can take up to many hours
[04:04] <maxamillion> ouch, that's not good
[04:05] <jtg23> ok i'll kill the kernel compile
[04:05] <maxamillion> k
[04:07] <jtg23> k botting into 7
[04:07] <maxamillion> k
[04:08] <jtg23> so what front-end do you use on debian?
[04:08] <jtg23> xfce?
[04:08] <jtg23> or do you actually use xubuntu?
[04:09] <maxamillion> jtg23: i use xubuntu on my laptop, i use debian on my home desktop and my work desktop ... xfce at home and fluxbox at work (the work machine is old and i am impatient)
[04:09] <jtg23> what sort of laptop/wificard do you have?
[04:10] <maxamillion> jtg23: its a dell latitude d820 with an intel pro wifi card (actually a work laptop, i just get to take it home because i'm a sys admin)
[04:10] <jtg23> ok, "no network interfaces detected" though i have the usb plugged into the dsl and  i have airlink wifi card
[04:10] <maxamillion> jtg23: i'm a college student with a part time on-campus job doing sys admin stuffs for the university library
[04:11] <maxamillion> jtg23: no network interface detected is bad ... what yeilded that?
[04:11] <jtg23> the 7 cd
[04:11] <jtg23> ah that's cool
[04:11] <jtg23> let me try my other wifi card and go again
[04:12] <maxamillion> jtg23: the 7 cd?
[04:12] <jtg23> xubuntu 7.04 cd that i booted from
[04:12] <jtg23> ok it detected the broadcom card
[04:12] <jtg23> but it says it can't find a network
[04:13] <jtg23> well hold on i have wpa on, let me turn it off and try again
[04:13] <maxamillion> jtg23: ah, it probably needs ndiswrapper ... or maybe the firmware to go with the bcm43xx
[04:13] <maxamillion> jtg23: what are you using to find a network?
[04:16] <bytor4233> Greetings all.  Just popping in while I'm using Xubuntu ;)
[04:16] <maxamillion> hello bytor4233
[04:16] <bytor4233> I had an old laptop (500mhz athlon, 200 megs of ram) that just wouldn't install my beloved Ubuntu, and I needed the laptop for a job trip.
[04:17] <maxamillion> bytor4233: and xubuntu saved the day?
[04:17] <bytor4233> It sure did
[04:17] <bytor4233> Xubuntu is my hero.
[04:17] <s|k> is there a way to turn the sound up or down from a command line
[04:17] <maxamillion> fantastic! ... we are glad to help :)
[04:17] <s|k> ?
[04:17] <maxamillion> s|k: uhmm... not to my knowledge
[04:17] <s|k> or better yet, how do I know what sound daemon I have?
[04:18] <maxamillion> s|k: i would imagine you have alsa
[04:18] <bytor4233> alsamixer would do the trick
[04:18] <s|k> is that what xubuntu comes with?
[04:18] <bytor4233> or amixer
[04:18] <maxamillion> s|k: yes
[04:19] <s|k> yes
[04:19] <s|k> that rocks
[04:19] <s|k> you guys rock
[04:19] <s|k> I have xubuntu, but I run ratpoison from the fail safe terminal
[04:19] <s|k> :D
[04:19] <bytor4233> amixer is a little harder to use than alsamixer.  Use amixer for scripting.
[04:20] <maxamillion> s|k: ratpoison? ... if you are that hard core, you might want to run gentoo ;)
[04:20] <s|k> amixer didni't start anything
[04:20] <s|k> nah I like debian packages
[04:20] <s|k> and I like ubuntu stability
[04:20] <s|k> I just don't like windows
[04:20] <s|k> :)
[04:20] <maxamillion> s|k: then run debian  ... more stable than any other distro, bar none
[04:20] <maxamillion> ;)
[04:21] <s|k> maybe eventually
[04:21] <s|k> I like how things just work in xubuntu
[04:21] <maxamillion> now granted they test their packages more intensly and for longer than anyone else, but still ... more stable :)
[04:21] <maxamillion> s|k: then stick with it :D ... use what works, nothing wrong with that
[04:21] <s|k> yup yup
[04:21] <s|k> :)
[04:22] <bytor4233> The only thing I am missing is Evolution.  Thunderbird and Lightning are okay, but I like Evolution more.
[04:23] <maxamillion> bytor4233: you can install it ... we just don't have it by default because its a heavy application in comparison
[04:24] <bytor4233> I know.  This steam powered laptop won't run it very well thou.
[04:24] <bytor4233> maxamillion: It was a very wise choice, don't get me wrong.
[04:25] <maxamillion> bytor4233: no no, i understand trust me .... xubuntu is light, but only to a point ... i have an older machine at work and i run a base installation of debian with fluxbox on it, i idle at a fresh desktop login using only 27mb of ram :)
[04:26] <bytor4233> hehe
[04:26] <bytor4233> I used to use WindowMaker and Debian Testing.
[04:26] <bytor4233> I totally understand light.
[04:27] <jtg23_> light?
[04:27] <jtg23_> oh light
[04:27] <jtg23_> i'm installing ubuntu and its bloatcode on here because supposedly this usb driver works natively with it :P
[04:27] <bytor4233> hehe
[04:27] <maxamillion> bytor4233: oh yeah, windowmaker is something i used for a while but flux seemed more my style
[04:27] <jtg23_> if this doesn't work maybe i'll do deb
[04:28] <jtg23_> i feel like i'm trying to get bsd working with all this dissatisfaction
[04:28] <bytor4233> maxamillion: I eventually started getting used to Gnome and its bloatware, and eventually just switched to Ubuntu on a whim.  Been in love with it ever since.
[04:28] <maxamillion> jtg23_: i can't promise it would work in debian... debian is a little less automated then the ubuntu crowd
[04:28] <bytor4233> And now I'm feelin for Xubuntu now!
[04:29] <jtg23_> maxamillion my plan is to get it working on one and then split the hd and put it on the other with the network support i get from the one
[04:29] <bytor4233> Once you get down to the nuts and bolts of productivity thou, Xubuntu definately has the "ubuntu" feel.
[04:29] <jtg23_> and hten repartion the disk to erase that installation once i get xub working
[04:29] <maxamillion> bytor4233: yeah, i have been a xfce+debian user for quite some time and when i found xubuntu i found it to be a wonderful thing... i greatly support it, but there are certain things i stick by debian about
[04:29] <maxamillion> jtg23_: ahhh ok
[04:29] <bytor4233> I looove Debian too.  I deploy it all the time, whenever I can at work.
[04:29] <jtg23_> (so ideally ubuntu will do the job, it's just too much overhead)
[04:30] <bytor4233> Its a little bit of overhead, but I have the resources to spare, and then some.
[04:30] <maxamillion> jtg23_: right
[04:30] <maxamillion> jtg23_: you might need network-manager-gnome (which isn't installed by default)
[04:30] <jtg23_> i just don't think i can get this wifi working with dsl realistically
[04:31] <jtg23_> maxamillion i think you're right but that was the thing that gave me problems because i didn't have these 2 packages that depended on each otehr
[04:31] <maxamillion> bytor4233: i have the resources, but gnome just isn't my cup of tea ... i don't like metacity, and the fact that the menu icons lag the first time you open the menu literally makes me cringe
[04:31] <jtg23_> maxamillion, you use a gui?  i thought you were leet
[04:32] <bytor4233> hehe
[04:32] <bytor4233> maxamillion: I hear that.
[04:32] <maxamillion> jtg23_: ohhh, right ... yeah, i forget about how you are unable to install from the repositories like the rest of us who have internet connections
[04:32] <jtg23_> maxamillion but i can get online in dapper which was why i was just trying to recompile the kernel
[04:32] <jtg23_> because if i could just do that i could get the drivers from teh updated kernel
[04:32] <maxamillion> jtg23_: use gui? ... of course, i use xfce or fluxbox depending, but i irc with irssi to keep to my roots ;)
[04:33] <maxamillion> jtg23_: ahhh, ok
[04:33] <jtg23_> ohhhh but i should've just installed the gnome thingy, i messed up
[04:33] <jtg23_> well, wathever, i can finish that kernel if this ubuntu 6.06 doesn't support my wifi
[04:33] <maxamillion> jtg23_: "leet" is an over-rated thing ... i enjoy youtube, elinks just doesn't deliver
[04:34] <maxamillion> jtg23_: okies, well good luck to you
[04:34] <jtg23_> yeah, thx for your assistance
[04:34] <maxamillion> jtg23_: anytime :)
[04:36] <jtg23_> ha!  ubuntu 6.06 of course supports the card and it has the 2.60 kernel
[04:36] <jtg23_> er 2.6.20
[04:36] <jtg23_> so back to compiling
[04:36] <maxamillion> jtg23_: :)
[04:36] <jtg23_> which means dinner
[04:37] <jtg23_> see yall
[04:37] <maxamillion> jtg23_: enjoy!
[04:38] <s|k> hrm
[04:38] <s|k> I seemed to have killed my windows manager
[04:39] <s|k> was just playing around in xfce
[04:39] <s|k> how do I start it
[04:39] <s|k> I have nothing open
[04:39] <s|k> :<
[04:39] <maxamillion> s|k: how do you open it from the command line?
[04:39] <s|k> how do I get the command line?
[04:39] <s|k> my virtual terminals don't work :/
[04:39] <s|k> weird
[04:40] <maxamillion> s|k: well if you just want to get back to the login screen hit ctrl+alt+backspace (that kills X, and gdm restarts by default)
[04:40] <s|k> I'm typing this by having ssh'ed in from another box
[04:40] <maxamillion> s|k: ah, ok
[04:40] <s|k> that doesn't seem to be working
[04:40] <maxamillion> ouch
[04:40] <maxamillion> hmm....
[04:40] <s|k> it's not responding to keys
[04:40] <s|k> I mean the computer is running
[04:40] <s|k> that's how I'm connected to irc
[04:40] <s|k> but the monitor
[04:41] <s|k> :/
[04:41] <maxamillion> s|k: try doing "sudo killall X" and then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" from a ssh session
[04:41] <s|k> ok
[04:42] <s|k> it said ok
[04:42] <s|k> starting display manager
[04:43] <maxamillion> anything show up on the display of the machine?
[04:43] <s|k> no it's a gray background and a mousepointer that's not moving
[04:43] <s|k> when I move the mouse
[04:43] <s|k> maybe just reboot?
[04:43] <maxamillion> s|k: i hate to say this ... but reboot
[04:43] <s|k> :<
[04:44] <s|k> ugh
[04:44] <s|k> ok :(
[04:44] <maxamillion> :(
[04:44] <s|k> only 12 days uptime
[04:44] <s|k> bbiab
[04:44] <j1mc> maxamillion: i wouldn't have known what to do there...
[04:45] <maxamillion> j1mc: you learn with time ... and with hanging out in irc channels when you are bored ;)
[04:45] <maxamillion> j1mc: install linux on anything and everything you can get your hands on ... you learn more by working out random little issues
[04:45] <j1mc> yeah...
[04:46] <j1mc> that's one good thing about volunteering at freegeek chicago... you see some weird hardware.
[04:46] <j1mc> you see it all.
[04:46] <j1mc> i want to give gentoo a shot, but i don't have a spare box for installing it now.
[04:48] <maxamillion> j1mc: gentoo ... here's what you do for gentoo: clear an _entire_ weekend off your schedule, then print off the novel that is gentoo docs ... read them once without the computer infront of you, and then read them as you install (and don't use any automated kernel building tools, because it is known that they don't work) and then be ready to sleep very little as you config for hours and then compile for even more hours ... and now you have a command lin
[04:49] <maxamillion> j1mc: theeeeeen you get to start emerging software, and now get some sleep because all that will take over night to compile
[04:49] <j1mc> right...
[04:49] <j1mc> i hear that you learn a lot about linux by going through all of that.
[04:49] <BFTD> maxamillion
[04:49] <j1mc> even though it takes forever.
[04:49] <BFTD> don't exagerate
[04:49] <BFTD> I did all this in 18 hours
[04:49] <maxamillion> j1mc: yes, you learn ALOT
[04:50] <j1mc> i've tried before, but i think i selected some wrong make flags or build flags or whatever...
[04:50] <maxamillion> BFTD: i'm not exagerating ... i did it on a pentiumII 333mhz w/ 192mb of ram ... it did take me that long
[04:50] <j1mc> it sucks when you take that long, and the system doesn't work.
[04:50] <maxamillion> j1mc: use flags it what they are called ... and yes, that could mess up your world
[04:50] <BFTD> maxamillion well no duh
[04:51] <BFTD> on a system with that specs it'll take anything that long to compile
[04:51] <maxamillion> j1mc: another thing you could try is LFS ... its a good way to learn ALOT (one journey i have yet to embrace)
[04:52] <maxamillion> i will do it eventually ... i just need to find the time to dedicate
[04:54] <j1mc> yeah... lfs.  :)  maybe someday.  :)
[04:56] <bytor4233> LFS is fun and all, but man, once you get done, its pretty outdated.
[04:56] <bytor4233> I did it.  Its a lot of work.
[04:57] <j1mc> hehe
[04:57] <maxamillion> yeah ... one day
[04:58] <maxamillion> right after i write my own kernel
[04:58] <maxamillion> (which will happen, i have to write one for my operating systems class next spring)
[04:58] <Jester45> hi
[04:58] <maxamillion> hiya cellofellow
[04:58] <maxamillion> hey j1mc
[04:58] <maxamillion> lol
[04:58] <cellofellow> hey
[04:58] <maxamillion> tab completion for the lose
[04:59] <maxamillion> hey Jester45*
[04:59] <maxamillion> cellofellow: what have you been up to?
[04:59] <cellofellow> work
[04:59] <maxamillion> me too
[04:59] <maxamillion> i idle around here all day at work, but i don't get to chat much :(
[05:00] <maxamillion> the daily show and colbert report are coming on ... bbl, i must watch ... i can't look away
[05:00] <maxamillion> laters :)
[05:01] <j1mc> laters, max_away
[05:21] <bytor4233> I'm watchin The Matrix trilogy right now.
[05:21] <bytor4233> Downtime on my business trip.
[06:01] <feliciano> hello guys
[06:01] <feliciano> I'm searching what is composite...
[06:02] <feliciano> I know how enable.. but I dont know what really is
[06:07] <Jester45> !composting
[06:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about composting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:07] <Jester45> oops
[06:08] <Jester45> its transparency
[06:08] <Ghostvirus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing_window_manager
[06:08] <Ghostvirus> he left already :/
[06:09] <Ghostvirus> dead room is DEAD
[06:17] <ruks> hey can anyone give me some helpful advice real quick
[06:17] <Ghostvirus> ruks, depends on the question!
[06:18] <ruks> ok i use azureus to dl torrents,im new to linux im running feisty,so i dl the torrents and converted the .bin files to .iso,but i cant watch them at all
[06:18] <ruks> i cant figure out why
[06:18] <ruks> or find anything to help me
[06:19] <Ghostvirus> what are the ISOs of?  DVDs?
[06:19] <Jester45> ruks, have you mount/burned the iso?
[06:20] <ruks> well i cant mount it,i dont know how
[06:20] <ruks> i downloaded some stuff from demonoid.com or whatever
[06:20] <Ghostvirus> haha, didn't we have the ISO mounting conversation last night?
[06:20] <ruks> converted them,but i dont know how to mount them
[06:20] <Ghostvirus> some other dude was asking the same thing
[06:20] <Jester45> wonder if the bot knows
[06:20] <Jester45> !iso
[06:20] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:21] <Jester45> o my, it knows
[06:21] <ruks> ahhhh
[06:21] <ruks> ok i will try that and check that link
[06:22] <Ghostvirus> what was the software i found last night?
[06:22] <Ghostvirus> cdemu or something?
[06:22] <Ghostvirus> it's not in the repos though
[06:23] <ruks> ill try what the bot suggested and let u know how it goes
[06:24] <Ghostvirus> http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Mount
[06:25] <Ghostvirus> i'm kind of surprised no one's made a daemon tools equivalent for linux
[06:28] <Ghostvirus> someone posted a script for nautilus to mount and unmount ISOs. can that sort of thing be done with thunar?
[06:29] <Jester45> its not the hard
[06:29] <Jester45> sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /a/path/to/the/cd/
[06:30] <Ghostvirus> true, but right-clicking an ISO and selecting "mount" would be nifty
[06:31] <Jester45> the reason nobody has made a proram is because its simple
[06:31] <Jester45> you can...
[06:31] <Jester45> make a script it would take 10 mins
[06:32] <Ghostvirus> i'll have to look into it. i've never made a script. i'm pretty much a linux noob anyway
[06:33] <ruks> hey i tried the command the bot suggested but it said my .iso file is no such file or directory,but im lookin right at it
[06:34] <Jester45> did you try drag and droping it?
[06:34] <ruks> drag and dropping it where
[06:36] <Jester45> into the terminal
[06:37] <ruks> ok i did that,can i paste what it said here?
[06:37] <ruks> how do i paste a big thing again?
[06:37] <Jester45> as long as its not to much
[06:37] <Jester45> !pastebin
[06:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:38] <ruks> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27230/
[06:39] <Jester45> thats the help...
[06:41] <ruks> well thats what came up when i typed sudo mount -o loop <filename><mountpoint>
[06:41] <ruks> i created the dir mount/iso to mount them in,someone tried to help me with this already
[06:41] <ruks> but when i use the mount command it brings up the help menu
[06:43] <Jester45> tell me exactly what you put in the commandline
[06:44] <ruks> ok first i did
[06:44] <ruks> sudo mount -o loop /home/david/.azureus/torrents/PIRATES OF THE CARRIBEAN AT WORLDS END TS-MVS A KARMADROME RELEASE BY BDK/pirates02.iso /mount/iso
[06:45] <Jester45> do
[06:45] <ruks> then i did
[06:45] <ruks>  sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 /home/david/.azureus/torrents/PIRATES OF THE CARRIBEAN AT WORLDS END TS-MVS A KARMADROME RELEASE BY BDK/pirates02.iso /mnt/iso/
[06:45] <Jester45>  sudo mount -o loop "/home/david/.azureus/torrents/PIRATES OF THE CARRIBEAN AT WORLDS END TS-MVS A KARMADROME RELEASE BY BDK/pirates02.iso" /mount/iso
[06:46] <ruks> ok that told me my mount point doesnt exist,but i coulda swore i created it
[06:46] <Jester45> you cant put spaces in like you did
[06:46] <Jester45> sudo mkdir /mount/iso
[06:47] <Jester45> the terminal thinks spaces mean a new command so /command1 command2/file to you would be a path but not to the computer
[06:48] <Ghostvirus> aren't scene releases supposed to use underscores or periods in filenames?
[06:48] <Jester45> you should put "" around the whole section or put a \ before each space
[06:48] <ruks> ok the mkdir said cannot create dir /mount/iso no such file or directory
[06:49] <Jester45> huum
[06:50] <ruks> can i mount it anywhere?
[06:51] <Jester45> sure
[06:51] <Jester45> anywhere you want
[06:52] <ruks> hey it was /mnt//iso
[06:52] <ruks> mnt/iso*
[06:52] <ruks> dangit lol
[06:52] <feliciano> I'm trying to found what exctly is compositor
[06:52] <feliciano> can you help me??
[06:52] <ruks> ok so when i changed it to the right mount point jester it says mount :u must specify the filesystem type
[06:53] <Ghostvirus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing_window_manager
[06:53] <ruks> so whats that mean jester?
[06:55] <Jester45> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing_window_manager
[06:55] <ruks> ok i used his command
[06:55] <Jester45> ruks, run file /path/to/iso
[06:55] <ruks>  sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 "/home/david/.azureus/torrents/PIRATES OF THE CARRIBEAN AT WORLDS END TS-MVS A KARMADROME RELEASE BY BDK/pirates02.iso" /mnt/iso
[06:55] <ruks> and it told me
[06:56] <Jester45> did it work
[06:56] <ruks> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,       missing codepage or other error
[06:56] <ruks>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[06:56] <ruks>        dmesg | tail  or so
[06:56] <feliciano> Ghostvirus... ok I read that... but... in this case... x windows manager is xfwm... and the compositing manager program???
[06:56] <Jester45> the composting manager is xfwm4
[06:56] <Ghostvirus> xfwm is the window manager and compositor
[06:56] <Ghostvirus> it does both
[06:57] <Jester45> ruks, run file /path/to/iso
[06:57] <ruks> just type that in?
[06:57] <Jester45> no... type file then the path to the iso
[06:58] <ruks> ahh got ya
[06:58] <Jester45> so "file "/home/david/.azureus/torrents/PIRATES OF THE CARRIBEAN AT WORLDS END TS-MVS A KARMADROME RELEASE BY BDK/pirates02.iso""
[06:58] <Ghostvirus> what kind of scene release groups releases a telesync as an iso anyway?!
[06:59] <ruks> it says the file then :data
[07:00] <Jester45> o and ruks you could of used vlc to play the bin file :)
[07:00] <ruks> it was a .bin ghost
[07:00] <ruks> i still have the .bin
[07:00] <ruks> i have a bunch of these movies,i just cant watch em lol
[07:02] <Jester45> does the torrent include a few text files saying that its a kvcd ?
[07:02] <ruks> ahh let me look
[07:03] <Jester45> you can do cat file file file| grep kvcd
[07:03] <ruks> text file labeled "how to burn a kvcd from tmts.org.text
[07:03] <Jester45> hehe
[07:03] <Jester45> how did i know
[07:03] <ruks> eh whats that?
[07:04] <Jester45> kvcd is like a dvd but you burn it on a cd
[07:04] <Jester45> vlc can play the .bins
[07:05] <ruks> ok but in vlc how do i find the hidden directories like .azures/torrents
[07:05] <ruks> like that
[07:05] <ruks> cuz thats where they are
[07:05] <ruks> and in vlc i cant see em right now
[07:05] <Jester45> you could copy else where
[07:06] <Jester45> or... open thunar and show hidden files  then look for them *might work*
[07:06] <ruks> ok lemme try
[07:08] <ruks> got it selected to show hiddens but it dont work lol,im copying it right now to another folder,so let me see if that works in vlc
[07:08] <ruks> so what if i wanna burn this to a disc to play in my dvd player?
[07:08] <ruks> and azureus crashes as soon as i open it now,if anyone might know why?
[07:09] <Jester45> did you remove the file while copying?
[07:10] <ruks> no i just clicked it selected copy and pasted it in another folder,it just finished
[07:10] <Jester45> well... you need to make sure the dvd player can play them
[07:10] <Ghostvirus> ruks, i'd recommend changing your torrent download folder to something else, as opposed to using the hidden folder
[07:10] <Ghostvirus> can azureus do that?
[07:11] <ruks> ahhh its playing  the .bin
[07:11] <ruks> woot
[07:11] <ruks> ahhh sweet
[07:12] <ruks> well i cant get azureus to even stay open or i would change it,does anyone know why it crashes all of a sudden
[07:13] <Ghostvirus> i don't know. i don't use azureus. never liked it...
[07:13] <Ghostvirus> you might want to look into deluge: http://deluge-torrent.org/
[07:13] <ruks> u just use bittorrent ubuntus default
[07:13] <ruks> ?
[07:13] <ruks> oh ok
[07:13] <ruks> is deluge java based
[07:14] <Jester45> no
[07:14] <Ghostvirus> no
[07:14] <ruks> i think thats why im havin problems with azureus
[07:14] <Jester45> its python i think
[07:14] <Ghostvirus> that's what i like about deluge... no java
[07:14] <ruks> sweet
[07:14] <ruks> well thanks guys,i can play the bin files now hehe
[07:14] <Ghostvirus> actually i don't torrent much on xubuntu. i use utorrent on xp. but deluge is a lot like utorrent
[07:14] <ruks> but what do i do if i wanna burn it to a disc?
[07:15] <Ghostvirus> get graveman
[07:15] <Ghostvirus> it's a disc burner
[07:16] <ruks> ok
[07:16] <Ghostvirus> does bin/cue files
[07:16] <ruks> and i burn the iso right,as disc image
[07:16] <ruks> oh sweet
[07:16] <Ghostvirus> it does pretty much everything
[07:16] <Ghostvirus> http://graveman.tuxfamily.org/
[07:16] <Ghostvirus> it's in the repositories
[07:17] <Ghostvirus> xfburn is less than reliable, sadly
[07:18] <Jester45> gnomebaker or k3b
[07:19] <Ghostvirus> yeah, install one of those if you don't mind gnome or kde libs loading
[07:19] <ruks> i got gnomebaker installed
[07:19] <ruks> but will it burn .bin?
[07:19] <Ghostvirus> i'm kind of worried if graveman is a dead project. no updates in a year :/
[07:20] <Ghostvirus> yeah gnomebaker burns bins
[07:20] <ruks> hey on that deluge page it says
[07:20] <ruks> under built packages
[07:20] <ruks> not to install the one in the repos
[07:20] <ruks> should i dl the .tar.gz?
[07:21] <Ghostvirus> oh? maybe it's old. there's a deb here: http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=1068
[07:23] <Ghostvirus> the getdeb site is pretty useful for getting packages not in the repos, or if the repos have old versions
[07:23] <ruks> ok sweet
[07:23] <ruks> thanks
[07:24] <Ghostvirus> no problem
[07:27] <ruks> and when i copy the bins can i just delete the original?
[07:28] <Ghostvirus> if you're not seeding them, i don't see why not
[07:32] <Ghostvirus> anyone know why xubuntu 7.04 doesn't have ntfs-3g by default/
[07:32] <crimsun> because it can't.
[07:32] <Jester45> its not-free
[07:32] <Jester45> im guessing
[07:33] <Jester45> hi crimsun
[07:33] <crimsun> ntfs-3g is in universe.  A derivative, if shipped as a Canonical-supported one, must use only main/restricted components.
[07:33] <crimsun> this is relevant for the iso images.
[07:34] <Ghostvirus> strange, when i had ubuntu 7.04 running, i recall it had ntfs-3g by default? my memory might be playing tricks on me though.
[07:34] <BFTD> ?
[07:34] <crimsun> it doesn't.
[07:34] <crimsun> I know for a fact.
[07:34] <Ghostvirus> alright, i'm probably remembering wrong. i must've installed it.
[07:34] <crimsun> crimsun@Box.pts/1.~ rmadison -u ubuntu ntfs-3g
[07:34] <crimsun>    ntfs-3g | 20060920-0ubuntu2 | edgy/universe | source, amd64, i386, powerpc
[07:34] <crimsun>    ntfs-3g |  1:1.328-1 | feisty/universe | source, amd64, i386, powerpc
[07:34] <crimsun>    ntfs-3g |  1:1.516-1 | gutsy/universe | source, amd64, i386, powerpc
[07:35] <crimsun> notice that every single instance of that source package is in universe.
[07:35] <Ghostvirus> brb guys
[07:36] <BFTD> hrm
[07:36] <BFTD> gutsy repo's already crimsun?
[07:37] <crimsun> meaning am I running it?  Yes.
[07:37] <crimsun> it's kinda difficult to test my own changes if I'm not
[07:37] <Jester45> :)
[07:41] <BFTD> ah
[07:41] <BFTD> hows it looking?
[07:43] <Ghostvirus> anyway, seems like ntfs-3g is pretty stable
[07:43] <Ghostvirus> works quite nicely
[07:43] <BFTD> yeah I use it on my other system, no problems
[07:45] <Ghostvirus> anybody know if GtkFileChooser will ever get a thumbnail view?
[07:46] <Ghostvirus> the gnome devs don't seem to want to add any more functionality to it >:[
[07:49] <ruks> hey ghost i went to install that deluge deb and it said wrong architecture i386
[07:49] <Jester45> ruks, then you need the 64bit one
[07:50] <ruks> ahh ok,anyone got a link where i can get it?
[07:50] <Ghostvirus> hm, you might need to compile it yourself...
[07:51] <ruks> ahh i def dont know how to do that lol
[07:51] <Ghostvirus> ah, it's not that hard actually
[07:52] <ruks> ill prolly screw it up lol
[07:52] <Ghostvirus> http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/#source
[07:52] <ruks> so if there isnt a 64 deb,any other program u would suggest tat isnt java based
[07:52] <Ghostvirus> that explains it in clear english
[07:53] <Ghostvirus> i don't really know of any other bittorrent clients
[07:55] <ruks> that just told me how to install a package,i know how to do that ,but not when its the wrong architecture :(
[07:56] <Ghostvirus> did you read the part on compiling source packages?
[07:57] <ruks> ahh i found it
[07:57] <ruks> lol
[07:57] <ruks> ok im gonna give this a shot
[07:57] <ruks> this will work?
[07:57] <Ghostvirus> hopefully!
[07:57] <Ghostvirus> can't hurt to try
[07:57] <Ghostvirus> it'll be a useful learning experience, either way
[07:58] <ruks> lol
[08:00] <nzk> How do I connect to a networked folder in Xubuntu/
[08:02] <Jester45> !smb
[08:02] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:07] <ruks> i installed the compile tools from synaptics,i extracted the files,but i cant open ./configure
[08:08] <Pumpernickel> Deluge doesn't use the configure / make / make install system.
[08:09] <Pumpernickel> Read the README file in the tarball - it will tell you what to do.
[08:10] <ruks> tarball?
[08:10] <ruks> im new to this
[08:10] <Ghostvirus> the tar.gz file
[08:10] <Pumpernickel> The source package you downloaded.
[08:10] <ruks> there are two
[08:10] <ruks> control
[08:10] <ruks> and data
[08:10] <gerro> I'm trying this floppy install method https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies and was wondering what should I do to instead install xubuntu
[08:10] <ruks> .tar.gz
[08:10] <gerro> if anyone has another guide that would be helpful
[08:13] <gerro> ruks: hiya what you guys compiling?
[08:13] <Ghostvirus> inside deluge-0.5.1.1.tar.gz there should be a README file
[08:13] <gerro> ooh a bit torrent client
[08:14] <gerro> that client looks pretty nice
[08:14] <Ghostvirus> gerro: it's coming along nicely
[08:15] <Ghostvirus> beats running utorrent under wine
[08:15] <ruks> there isnt a deluge.tar.gz it was a deb i extracted and in the folder there is a data.tar.gz and control.tar.gz
[08:15] <ruks> so i need to dl the dluge.tar.gz,whats that link again ghostvirus
[08:15] <gerro> I've been using bit tornado :/
[08:15] <Ghostvirus> ruks: http://download.deluge-torrent.org/stable/deluge-0.5.1.1.tar.gz
[08:16] <ruks> that sucks gerro i tried it
[08:16] <gerro> yeah it does
[08:16] <Ghostvirus> deluge is the closest i've seen to a utorrent-like client for linux
[08:16] <gerro> what do you mean by utorrent?
[08:16] <Ghostvirus> well, a gtk+ client, anyway. not sure if there are any decent kde clients
[08:17] <Ghostvirus> utorrent is a windows bittorrent client
[08:17] <Ghostvirus> http://www.utorrent.com/
[08:17] <gerro> never tried it
[08:18] <Ghostvirus> it's pretty awesome
[08:18] <gerro> ooh naked asian chix on that site :)
[08:18] <ruks> ok the readme tells me to run python setup.py build
[08:18] <ruks> but that gives me an error
[08:18] <gerro> ah darn python compiling?
[08:19] <Ghostvirus> hm, i've never done any python compiling...
[08:20] <Ghostvirus> ruks: do you have all the necessary packages?
[08:20] <ruks> im installin em now
[08:25] <gerro> I tried installing deluge and after first command it says error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
[08:26] <gerro> lot of other warning and errors above that too
[08:27] <crimsun> install build-essential first
[08:28] <gerro> I have gcc installed
[08:28] <gerro> and build-essential
[08:29] <ruks> ok packages installed still getting an error message
[08:30] <Ghostvirus> ruks: what error?
[08:30] <ruks> python: can't open file 'setup.py': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory
[08:31] <Pumpernickel> You have to be in the same directory as the file setup.py.
[08:31] <ruks> ah
[08:31] <ruks> i am
[08:31] <ruks> no im not
[08:31] <ruks> dangit
[08:31] <ruks> hold
[08:31] <Ghostvirus> cd deluge-0.5.1.1
[08:32] <Ghostvirus> assuming you're in your home dir
[08:34] <gerro> ruks: hurry up so you can be up to par with my error :P
[08:34] <ruks> lol
[08:34] <test3r> i get freeze ups running 704 on this box sometimes
[08:34] <gerro> test3r: what sort of freeze ups?
[08:34] <ruks> ghost it says no such file or directory
[08:35] <test3r> total lock up. cant Ctl+Alt+Esc , and cant CtlAltBackspace
[08:35] <ruks> the tar.gz is on my desktop
[08:35] <test3r> i have to hard reset.
[08:35] <Ghostvirus> oh, then cd Desktop
[08:35] <test3r> tester@box:/$ free
[08:35] <test3r>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[08:35] <test3r> Mem:        288404     242652      45752          0       7764     102372
[08:35] <test3r> -/+ buffers/cache:     132516     155888
[08:35] <test3r> Swap:       843372          0     843372
[08:35] <Ghostvirus> you want to be in the extraced folder
[08:36] <Ghostvirus> *extracted
[08:36] <gerro> ruks: right click the file and choose extract here
[08:36] <test3r> it might b a remnant of the gForce2 (the gforce legacy) driver being weird again
[08:36] <test3r> it might be what they did to get it to "fix" but it is causing crash randomly
[08:36] <ruks> ahh its workin,i did gerro
[08:37] <gerro> ruks: then cd /home/user/Desktop/filename
[08:37] <gerro> kay
[08:37] <ruks> last thing says error command gcc failed with exit status 1
[08:37] <gerro> haha
[08:37] <ruks> not funny lol
[08:37] <ruks> dammit
[08:37] <ruks> whats that mean
[08:38] <test3r> you already setup the .config ?
[08:38] <gerro> it means python coders whom use gcc are noobs :)
[08:38] <test3r> or Is there .config?
[08:38] <ruks> not from what i was told
[08:38] <test3r> oh u wana know the trik?
[08:38] <test3r> the module is prob Already IN python
[08:38] <test3r> u dont ahve to install the thing
[08:38] <ruks> what do u mean
[08:38] <test3r> just launch it how they told u.
[08:38] <test3r> o.O
[08:38] <test3r> what i just said is what i mean
[08:39] <test3r> i just did this on my laptop
[08:39] <test3r> with P.O.C. code
[08:39] <ruks> lol but im new to this i dont know what that means
[08:39] <test3r> on the page of thing ur trying to get running
[08:39] <test3r> there is instructions
[08:39] <ruks> yea
[08:39] <test3r> they probably say something like "use -  ROOT# perl /path/2/ur/script.pl
[08:40] <test3r> so use that. and add the peramaters on the end
[08:40] <gerro> ah screw it I'm using bit tornado
[08:40] <test3r> lmfao! Um, yeah.  Bittornado is Good.
[08:40] <Ghostvirus> http://forum.deluge-torrent.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=16&start=10&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=gcc+failed+with+exit+status+1#p81
[08:40] <gerro> it is?
[08:40] <test3r> It is.
[08:41] <Ghostvirus> can't seem to find any other results regarding that error on their forum
[08:42] <test3r> so when WE type it out - it should look like -  sudo perl /path/to/script.pl  --interface ath0 --sleep 0.9
[08:42] <test3r> as an example
[08:42] <test3r> ;)
[08:43] <ruks> im lost now :(
[08:43] <test3r> hoipefully that helps? ah poo. well take a picture of what i just told u so u have it later. it will make sense One day.
[08:44] <gerro> ruks: apt-get install bittornado-gui
[08:44] <ruks> already got it
[08:44] <test3r> yeah its in your menu under Netowkring
[08:45] <ruks> but it sucks imo,i liked azureus but it crashed cuz of java
[08:45] <ruks> i installed bit tornado
[08:45] <test3r> the Big secret - ruks - is there is no best best client.  Use what works BEST with your stuff you have in place
[08:46] <ruks> ok
[08:46] <test3r> so if you can use a BT client that uses GCC code from start-end its going to be pretty stable.
[08:46] <Pumpernickel> That won't work with Deluge - it has a C++ portion which has to be compiled.
[08:46] <Pumpernickel> It's not just a python script.
[08:46] <ruks> azureus worked great til it started crashin when i opened it
[08:46] <ruks> dammit
[08:46] <test3r> azureus has C++ hidden in the middle of its code? wait i though the entire make file would be in C++?
[08:47] <Pumpernickel> Deluge does.
[08:47] <ruks> somone told me since its java based it crashes,didnt have any problems with it at first it dl great
[08:47] <test3r> oic now.  never heard of that clint, yet.
[08:47] <Pumpernickel> I'm commenting on what you said about a dozen lines up.
[08:47] <test3r> client
[08:47] <ruks> now when i open it bam it closes
[08:48] <test3r> ruks : it might work better on windows im guessing
[08:48] <test3r> because of they way they do some thing
[08:48] <ruks> if u can figure out why azureus crashes that would be awesome
[08:48] <ruks> for some reason i dl slower on windows lol
[08:49] <test3r> gerro > seriously. the closer you can get to the src of yur OS with apps coded in programming the better
[08:49] <Ghostvirus> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/deluge-torrent/deluge-torrent_0.5.1.1-1_amd64.deb
[08:49] <gerro> test3r: yeah that why I use swiftweasel :)
[08:49] <ruks> u found it!!
[08:50] <test3r> firefox still locks up randomly for me on some pages
[08:50] <test3r> is switweasel a branch with switfox ?
[08:50] <Ghostvirus> i dunno why i didn't just google for the damn package from the start :-[
[08:50] <Ghostvirus> let me know how the installation goes
[08:50] <gerro> nope its a branch of iceweasel that mimics swiftfox performance but also throws in some configurations and plugins tweak it further
[08:50] <ruks> says dependancy is not satisfiable libboost-datetime1.34.0,does that mean i need to install newer version of it?
[08:51] <test3r> should i try swiftfox? how much more stable is that for us?
[08:51] <Ghostvirus> ruks: yeah, you'll have to install some packages first
[08:51] <gerro> test3r: not at all stable but I've had good results with swiftweasel
[08:51] <test3r> huh! no doubt ill makke a note of it
[08:52] <gerro> I just wish there was a blue-shift 2 theme for it :)
[08:52] <ruks> i have the libboost packages installed
[08:52] <Ghostvirus> ruks: they're up-to-date?
[08:53] <gerro> speaking of which how do you set a new default browser for xubuntu?
[08:53] <gerro> I mean what would I enter for it to execute?
[08:53] <ruks> i have 1.33 not 1.34 let me look for it
[08:53] <test3r> you know what seems to cause me sys lock-up then, lately? I think its a program in K i tryed for a while, and Firefox
[08:54] <test3r> what is firefox calling that is like what K++ is calling ? to the kernel?
[08:55] <test3r> is there a file for me to check? a Log??? to see what it did last boot just before it crashed when I was using firefox?
[08:56] <ruks> ghostvirus i went here
[08:56] <ruks> http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/gnuab/debian/pool-kfreebsd-amd64/main/b/boost/libboost-date-time1.34.0_1.34.0~rc2-2_kfreebsd-amd64.deb
[08:56] <gerro> test3r: umm syslog or run firefox from terminal and pipe the debug messages elsewhere
[08:56] <ruks> and its a bunch of symbols no text or nothin
[08:56] <test3r> ruks > goto file , Save As
[08:56] <test3r> and save to desktop
[08:56] <Ghostvirus> ruks: it's a problem with their server
[08:56] <test3r> it is a  FILENAME.deb
[08:57] <test3r> it is showing you
[08:57] <test3r> the ASCII
[08:57] <test3r> that makes up the file
[08:57] <test3r> just save the file
[08:57] <test3r> ...
[08:57] <Ghostvirus> misconfigured server
[08:58] <test3r> well im no firefox hacker, but my uncle helped with the original Netscape
[08:58] <test3r> he coded on Mac to make netscape happen
[08:58] <ruks> what is kfreebsd
[08:58] <test3r> probably freeBSD with K++ installed
[08:58] <test3r> if you want K++, try slack
[08:59] <gerro> what is k++?
[08:59] <test3r> or i think edubuntu might have K++ by default youd have to check
[08:59] <Ghostvirus> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/boost/libboost-date-time1.34.0_1.34.0-1_amd64.deb
[08:59] <test3r> libraries
[08:59] <ruks> ok no just tryin to find the right package lol
[08:59] <test3r> for running programs that look unnessecairily fancy
[08:59] <test3r> and take alot of power/guts  to run on a machine
[08:59] <ruks> lol ghost how do u keep findin these
[08:59] <test3r> he is using google. or just searching their repos.
[08:59] <Ghostvirus> ruks: my google-fu
[09:00] <test3r> ...
[09:00] <Ghostvirus> ruks: use the links here: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/deluge-torrent
[09:00] <azi> hm.. i've just installed ubuntu and the installation hasn't asked me to set up the root passord and no i'm unable to set the proper keboard setting. anone knos hat the passord is?
[09:00] <Ghostvirus> it should have every dependency you'll need
[09:01] <Ghostvirus> root password should be the password you entered when installing
[09:01] <azi> Ghostvirus: i onl entered the user passd
[09:01] <test3r> it never asked him
[09:01] <test3r> there is a page on the web about your situation , azi
[09:02] <test3r> i think you login with "ubuntu" and no pass
[09:02] <test3r> if that is not it im sure you can find the article
[09:02] <ruks> ghost it says not satisfied libc but its installed i looked in synaptics
[09:03] <Ghostvirus> what version of libc is it asking for?
[09:04] <ruks> 6
[09:04] <ruks> thats whats installed in synaptics
[09:04] <ruks> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/boost/libboost-date-time1.34.0_1.34.0-1_amd64.deb
[09:04] <ruks> when i click to install that it tells me libc6 is not satisfied but its installed
[09:05] <Pumpernickel> !sudo | azi
[09:05] <ubotu> azi: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:05] <Ghostvirus> i think this might be what you want: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/libs/libc6
[09:05] <Ghostvirus> 2.5-11
[09:06] <Pumpernickel> Don't install Debian packages in Ubuntu.
[09:06] <Pumpernickel> Especially not something as system-critical as libc.
[09:06] <test3r> lol yipes. installing unstables ?
[09:06] <test3r> good luck with getting all that to work like a clock
[09:06] <Ghostvirus> :/
[09:06] <gerro> wow and how long you had your system not kernel panic?
[09:07] <test3r> mmmmm? last time it did i had made my own kernel for Edgy
[09:07] <test3r> then i sorted out why
[09:07] <test3r> ...  why do u ask?
[09:07] <gerro> just curious
[09:08] <gerro> any idea what is with the k7 kernel in ubuntu repository?
[09:08] <ruks> so should i install that or what
[09:08] <Pumpernickel> No.
[09:08] <test3r> or maybe you count the time i compiled gentoo for three days in a row . the computer thought for three days. only to find out it would not use my PCI-based 3COM ethernet card
[09:08] <gerro> it says it is older than the generic one and screws up my graphics card if I use it
[09:08] <test3r> even installing slack
[09:08] <test3r> from floppy
[09:08] <ruks> ok so i should just give up on deluge?
[09:08] <test3r> to a box with 16MB RAM was quicker
[09:09] <test3r> than the non-working install of GENTOO
[09:09] <test3r> that was the most pathetic thing ive ever seen.
[09:09] <gerro> yeah I never really liked gentoo...
[09:09] <ruks> so no deluge guys?
[09:09] <test3r> i dunno have ur box think for ages if you want - whatever.
[09:09] <gerro> too hardcore whatever and all :/
[09:09] <test3r> i like to use it though
[09:09] <ruks> i dont wanna install stuff thats gonna crash
[09:10] <Ghostvirus> ruks: your best bet might be to ask in their support forum
[09:10] <gerro> I'm going to get some sleep and crash for the night
[09:10] <ruks> ok
[09:10] <ruks> anyone familiar with azureus?
[09:11] <test3r> or days of googling. thats what i just did for my wifi card to get it to be insane on my laptop.
[09:11] <test3r> you'll learn a piss load.   go 4 it.
[09:12] <Ghostvirus> ruks: there are a lot of threads on the ubuntu forums about azureus crashes
[09:13] <test3r> yeah the ubuntu forums seem to help alot (although they have their moments when they don't know what they're on about, either! It's all testing. thats why were here)
[09:14] <ruks> ok well thanks alot for the help guys
[09:14] <ruks> i appreciate it
[09:15] <test3r> np!  theres usualy someone in here 24hrs I bet - come back whenever.
[09:15] <ruks> thanks
[09:15] <test3r> i jus lurk here, lately
[09:15] <Ghostvirus> sorry we couldn't get deluge working
[09:15] <ruks> its ok
[09:15] <ruks> ill use tornado for now
[09:15] <ruks> and figure out azureus
[09:15] <Ghostvirus> hopefully it'll get into the repos soon
[09:16] <test3r> the only thing that torrent rly needs besides its basic functions is PG
[09:17] <test3r> and that is a whole seperate bag o wurmz
[09:17] <test3r> and tables of the ip nature
[09:17] <test3r> with a side-dish of cron    ;9
[09:17] <ruks> hey when i dl a torrent how do i open it with bittornado like where is it,its tryin to open with azureus
[09:18] <ruks> i got bt installed just dont know where its located
[09:18] <test3r> lol, again, if you Save to Desktop
[09:18] <test3r> you can get at that data
[09:18] <ruks> ok
[09:18] <test3r> (probably double click the file and it will Go)
[09:19] <Ghostvirus> alright chaps, i'm off. be back tomorrow night.
[09:20] <test3r> ut oh.  pretty soon its jus gana b me an sheep as night shift and usualy HE has to field the night questions kus their hard
[09:22] <ruks> what should i make my rates for bittornado?
[09:23] <test3r> if they are at Auto for many many programs it seems best
[09:23] <test3r> then whatever is going on it will try to sort it out 4 u
[09:24] <test3r> otherwise it is like a zombie, see? (or CAN be. depnds on what program / who wrote it)
[09:24] <ruks> ok
[09:28] <ruks> i dont have any sound with this .bin in vlc :(
[09:29] <ruks> why dont i have sound?
[09:47] <grammasta> hey guys, can someone help me with installing xfce under kubuntu ? I've had a look in the Adept Installer, but can't find anything called "Xfce 4", just a lot of smaller packages that start with xfce 4....
[09:48] <grammasta> sorry for the noob question, but I followed a guide that didn't work and the guys in xfce thought someone in here could help
[11:35] <kilonux> hello, is there a way to retreive password for the first oem boot?
[11:36] <kilonux> I forgot or misspelled it!!
[11:52] <case__> kilonux, hi
[11:53] <case__> kilonux, i think the easyest way is to boot from a live-cd (or to get a root shell by another method), mount the root device, chroot on it and then change the password with passwd
[11:53] <case__> s/root device/root partition/
[11:54] <case__> you can probably do that using the "recovery mode" at startup
[01:29] <Will^Draven> hey, i'm trying to set up printing to a HP hooked up to an XP box
[01:30] <Will^Draven> i keep finding stuff on the forums that says go to System -> Administration -> Printing
[01:30] <Will^Draven> but, there is no Administration in my system menu... :-\
[01:32] <predaeus> Will^Draven, applications/settings/printing
[01:35] <Will^Draven> hmm, i go in there and it dosent have nice simple options like "network printer" like in the guide it wants me to type things out manually
[01:40] <Will^Draven> ah i think ive got it sorted
[01:55] <musiq> How can I set up ndiswrapper to use prism2_usb instead of rt2570 (which doesn't work)? (blacklist it doesn't work)
[01:58] <Will^Draven> ugh, somethings buggered up
[02:05] <musiq> How can I set up ndiswrapper to use prism2_usb instead of rt2570 (which doesn't work)? (blacklist it doesn't work)
[02:40] <t94xr> how do i enable remote desktop on xubuntu?
[03:09] <R[a] ndom> t94xr, nobody seems to be here. google it
[03:10] <R[a] ndom> third hit for "xubuntu enable remote desktop" seems to do the trick
[03:14] <homebrewcider> anybody here, got a canon mp510 or similar working in Xubuntu? The scanner is the pressing issue, I have the printer side working
[03:21] <R[a] ndom> http://home.arcor.de/wittawat/pixma/#status
[03:21] <R[a] ndom> looks like it does work
[03:57] <DaBeowulf> I did try a new install from the Live CD but unshield is doing it again after I installed it saying "bash: /usr/bin/unshield: No such file or directory" when I try to use it although the program file is sitting in /usr/bin/. Any idea what gives such a strange behaviour?
[04:04] <DaBeowulf> It worked before when I had Xubuntu on a tiny partition besides the Win one and even after I parted with the Win one and did a new install, but I've done a new one yesterday and bam it behaves so weird although I install the prog the same way I did it the two times it worked.
[04:58] <Orionisti> Hi
[04:58] <Orionisti> I need some help with using internet through my Nokia 6230 with USB connection.
[04:59] <Orionisti> I checked the modem settings but I don't know any phone number the phone should call. I've used GPRS with KDE (Knoppix) before, it had a tool to open a GPRS connection.
[05:00] <Orionisti> So could someone guide me through the steps needed to use the GPRS connection to connect to internet?
[05:12] <maxamillion> Orionisti: what kind of GPRS network card do you have?
[05:14] <Orionisti> it's Nokia 6230 cell phone
[05:14] <maxamillion> Orionisti: http://www.ka9q.net/5220.html and http://www.xmission.com/~bmidgley/tmobile/ appear to be decent resources, let me know if they are what you are looking for
[05:14] <maxamillion> Orionisti: oh .... uhmmm, just a moment
[05:15] <maxamillion> Orionisti: http://tuxmobil.org/phones_survey_nokia.html
[05:15] <maxamillion> brb
[05:15] <Orionisti> thanks
[05:15] <maxamillion> anytime :)
[05:40] <Orionisti> right
[05:40] <Orionisti> running to some troubles here
[05:41] <Orionisti> cannot extract gnokii source to /usr/local/src/ because I don't have the privileges to do so
[05:42] <xBill> u don't have, but root has
[05:43] <Orionisti> right
[05:43] <Orionisti> so
[05:43] <Orionisti> I can't login as root
[05:43] <Orionisti> aaand
[05:43] <Orionisti> sure, sudo, but then what
[05:44] <xBill> sudo tar xf <file>
[05:45] <Orionisti> thanks
[05:45] <xBill> np
[05:45] <Orionisti> this will take a looooong time if I wish to get this gprs connection working =/
[05:47] <Orionisti> riiiight
[05:47] <Orionisti> so now the computer just shut itself down
[05:47] <Orionisti> maybe I should just go back to knoppix
[05:47] <Orionisti> sigh
[05:50] <xBill> ever had a look at sidux ?
[05:51] <xBill> (but i guess, we should better solve your problem than discuss about other distros)
[05:53] <Orionisti> at least it was able to start ./configure this time
[05:54] <maxamillion> xBill: how stable is sidux?
[05:54] <maxamillion> Orionisti: you will need to use sudo for make and make install
[05:54] <xBill> debian sid ...
[05:54] <Orionisti> oh
[05:54] <Orionisti> didn't know that, thanks
[05:54] <maxamillion> xBill: yes, i am aware ... been on debian for almost a decade, but i was wondering how stable they get sidux upon release
[05:56] <xBill> it runs pretty stable, just based on debian sid, for having latest versions
[05:58] <maxamillion> xBill: well technically, ubuntu is based on debian sid ... or atleast it started out that way, alot has happened since the beginning though ... dunno the details these days
[05:58] <maxamillion> xBill: but that's good that its rather stable ... i might have to look into it
[05:58] <maxamillion> xBill: what DE does it use?
[06:06] <DaBeowulf> Ha, I dunno why but all of a sudden unshield seems to work again.
[06:06] <DaBeowulf> \o/
[06:06] <Orionisti> ok, more problems
[06:07] <Orionisti> Please make sure to have /usr/local/lib in the system defaults or in /etc/ld.so.conf and run /sdbin/ldconfig at some time.
[06:07] <Orionisti> so what do I do?  =D
[06:08] <DaBeowulf> I'm sure UT2k4 will have glitchy graphics again but we'll see.
[06:19] <Orionisti> guys.....
[06:20] <Orionisti> how do I make that sure?
[06:20] <Orionisti> I opened ld.so.conf in text editor, but as usual, don't have the permissions
[06:21] <xBill> sudo
[06:21] <Orionisti> sigh
[06:21] <Orionisti> I'm using xfce
[06:21] <Orionisti> how do I sudo in that?
[06:22] <Orionisti> ..
[06:23] <xBill> terminal: sudo <command> else [alt] +[F2]  -> gksu <command>
[06:23] <Orionisti> well ok, let's skip that
[06:24] <Orionisti> that tells me nothing
[06:27] <Orionisti> allright
[06:27] <Orionisti> I think I got it included there
[06:27] <wyrdsystir> anyone here up to helping out?
[06:27] <Orionisti> now how do I run /sdbin/ldconfig at some time.
[06:30] <wyrdsystir> I need to remove ubuntu from a laptop for a friend and I need some advice on how to go about thta
[06:30] <wyrdsystir> *that
[06:32] <Jester45> wyrdsystir, what are you going to put on it
[06:32] <BFTD> wyrdsystir install whatever over it
[06:32] <wyrdsystir> My friend wants XP put on over it
[06:32] <wyrdsystir> and I can't get it to boot from the cdrom
[06:33] <xBill> clever laptop ... ^^
[06:33] <Jester45> :)
[06:33] <Orionisti> allright
[06:33] <Orionisti> we all love unexpected blackouts
[06:33] <wyrdsystir> yeah
[06:33] <BFTD> hehe
[06:33] <Orionisti> so anyone remember what I had to do next?
[06:33] <Orionisti> run something
[06:34] <Orionisti> guys
 now how do I run /sdbin/ldconfig at some time.
[06:34] <Jester45> that
[06:34] <Jester45> ?
[06:34] <Orionisti> oh ffs with this windows
[06:34] <Orionisti> gotta reboot again
[06:34] <Orionisti> this is so fscked up >_<
[06:34] <Orionisti> corrupted nicely
[06:35] <Orionisti> thanks jester
[06:40] <wyrdsystir> nevermind
[06:43] <Orionisti> allright
[06:43] <Orionisti> again
[06:44] <Orionisti> though it still has ot occurred to me how installing gnokii will allow me to use my phone as a gprs modem...
[06:44] <Orionisti> because I really wouldn't like to recompile my kernel... just in case there's another blackout or I mess something up
[06:49] <hdoria> is there a update applet for xfce systray?
[06:55] <Orionisti> ok guys
[06:56] <Orionisti> so I'm not going to install gnokii patches because a) I don't see how it opens a GPRS connection all of a sudden and b) I don't want to mess with my kernel
[06:56] <Orionisti> so I've been looking at the PPP settings on my Xubuntu
[06:56] <Orionisti> they all want a phone number to dial in
[06:56] <Orionisti> But I don't have one to provide
[06:57] <maxamillion> hdoria: not that i know of, but xfce panel has full gnome plugin support so you could technically install and add the one for gnome if you wanted
[06:57] <Orionisti> And I never had to provide one before
[06:57] <Orionisti> so are there still some hope for me to get the gprs connection working
[06:57] <hdoria> maxamillion, humm . its not what im looking for, but thanks anyway
[06:58] <maxamillion> np
[06:59] <maxamillion> Orionisti: its impossible to create a PPP connection without a dial up number, its possible that your old software had it included from your ISP so that you didn't have to enter it for yourself, but it is required and i'm sure you could find out an access number to enter into the PPP configurator
[07:00] <Orionisti> I looked all over the phone settings and there was no mention ofa dial number...
[07:00] <Orionisti> maybe the operator website is next
[07:02] <maxamillion> Orionisti: not a half bad idea
[07:06] <Orionisti> nopes, it only explains what the acronym GPRS means
[07:07] <Orionisti> re-ordered the settings to my phone, but so far I've got nothing useful
[07:08] <Orionisti> aaaand half of the operator's website is down due to updates
[07:10] <maxamillion> Orionisti: sounds like the story of my life
[07:13] <Orionisti> but google gave me a guide on how to get another nokia cellphone work via bluetooth on gentoo
[07:15] <Orionisti> and there I got the phone number
[07:15] <Orionisti> ..I think
[07:16] <Orionisti> but why can't I open the PPP program now >_<
[07:16] <Orionisti> or any program for that matter
[07:23] <Orionisti> ok
[07:23] <Orionisti> fed the phone number and init string
[07:23] <Orionisti> cannot open modem
[07:24] <Orionisti> do I really have to change operating system to use gprs?
[07:27] <maxamillion> i hope not
[07:27] <Orionisti> me too
[07:27] <Orionisti> but it sure looks that way
[07:30] <Orionisti> really didn't think it would be this darn difficult =(
[07:31] <maxamillion> Orionisti: you would be surprised how hard certain companies try and make it for any non-commercial, non-proproetary operating system to do certain tasks
[07:32] <Orionisti> yeah
[07:32] <Orionisti> but it worked like a charm in knoppix
[07:33] <Orionisti> I guess I'll try that recompile-kernel-headers trick
[07:33] <Orionisti> http://siddharthdawara.blogspot.com/2006/09/gnokii-dku-2-nokia-6230-linux.html   I'm going to follow the instructions on the "Patch time" section
[07:33] <Orionisti> and I'll prolly need some help with those
[07:33] <Orionisti> let's see how this goes
[08:02] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:02] <cheeseboy> whats xfce terminal called?
[08:03] <BFTD> terminal?
[08:04] <Orionisti> ok fail
[08:04] <Orionisti> hm =/
[08:04] <Orionisti> the fookin permissions >_<
[08:04] <cheeseboy> gnome-terminal
[08:04] <cheeseboy> whats xfce one called?
[08:05] <Orionisti> isn't it just "terminal" ?
[08:05] <cheeseboy> no
[08:05] <Orionisti> ok, thanks to anyone who helped me, but I can't continue like this, have to install some other os
[08:05] <cheeseboy> help??
[08:05] <maxamillion> cheeseboy: xfce4-terminal is the package, but the command is just 'Terminal" (case sensitive)
[08:06] <cheeseboy> i want to install it
[08:06] <cheeseboy> why i was askin
[08:06] <cheeseboy> thnx
[08:06] <maxamillion> np
[08:07] <feliciano> hi. My friend try to install xubuntu in his laptop, a IBM of 128 MB... but tho the CD-ROM stop to work at the middle of the installation, and ask him for the drivers and the floopy.... did you know whats happend???
[08:23] <mrmonday> I am trying to install xubuntu on an old PC using the alternate CD, but it can't mount the CD drive... what can I do?
[08:28] <TheSheep> !install | mrmonday
[08:28] <ubotu> mrmonday: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[09:07] <Jester45> !automate
[09:07] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[09:18] <m0u5e> ive installed beryl on xubuntu, how do i get it to default on boot up? (should i ask #beryl instead?)
[09:18] <Jester45> no
[09:18] <Jester45> you could as in #ubuntu-effects but... they use gnome
[09:18] <Jester45> so here would be fine
[09:19] <Jester45> you can set it buy settings autostarted -> applications
[09:19] <Jester45> oops
[09:20] <Jester45> settings -> autostarted applications :)
[09:21] <Jester45> the command could be beryl & emerald --replace (i think that should work)
[09:21] <Jester45> or you can have beryl-manager start up
[09:21] <Jester45> or you could make a xfce session to have it start when you want
[09:22] <Jester45> so at login you could select with beryl or without
[09:22] <Jester45> idk if beryl needs the --replace flag
[09:22] <Jester45> i think it does
[09:23] <m0u5e> okay thx
[09:23] <m0u5e> so just go into auto started applications and type in beryl --replace ?
[09:23] <Jester45> no... you need emerald also
[09:24] <m0u5e> okay
[09:24] <Jester45> so the command would be "beryl --replace & emerald --replace"
[09:24] <Jester45> the & makes both run at the same time
[09:24] <m0u5e> okay
[09:25] <m0u5e> all as 1 autostart application
[09:25] <Jester45> and just so you know if you do command && command when ever the first command is done the 2 will run
[09:25] <Jester45> yep
[09:25] <m0u5e> okay thx :)
[09:26] <TheSheep> Jester45: & just makes the first command run in background...
[09:26] <m0u5e> is restarting my session enough to get it working? :)
[09:26] <Jester45> TheSheep, ok but they still both will run
[09:26] <Jester45> should
[09:32] <m0u5e> bah they should just add something into the beryl manager ... like a toggle box that says "have beryl enabled at system startup"
[09:34] <m0u5e> whats the command to fix broken packages again?
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> m0u5e: sudo apt-get -f install ?
[09:44] <m0u5e> tonyyarusso: ah i figured out the problem, its stupid hal they havent fixed the info thing yet...
[09:45] <TheSheep> indeed, all software tend to be pretty stupid -- it doesn't have brains, you know
[09:49] <m0u5e> hmm beryl doesnt want to start up
[09:49] <m0u5e> the beryl --replace & emerald --replace isnt working...
[09:53] <TheSheep> add ; after the &
[09:54] <TheSheep> nah, sorry
[09:54] <TheSheep> wrong
[09:54] <TheSheep> m0u5e: what happens when you run 'beryl --replace' yourself?
[09:58] <m0u5e> err it runs, with all the effects but the window manager goes away
[09:58] <m0u5e> hold brb food
[10:15] <blue|palm> hi there, I am running an xgl server succesfully compositing with xfwm4, but I have installed compiz-fusion. When i try and run compiz --replace I get the following error: compiz (core) - Error: Could not acquire compositing manager selection on screen 0 display ":0.0"
 compiz (core) - Fatal: No manageable screens found on display :0.0
[10:15] <Jester45> beryl isnt a "window manager" on how you thinging
[10:15] <Jester45> emerald is whats missing
[10:16] <Jester45> its the window decorator, it puts the boarders on the windows
[10:16] <Jester45> blue|palm, compiz doesnt work to well on xubuntu, at least for me
[10:17] <blue|palm> Jester45, hmm, this is compiz-fusion im talking about...
[10:18] <blue|palm> and it really shoudn't matter what de we are running! since we are effectively replacing it.. .this is a compiz-fusion error im making... i was hoping someone knows what Ive done wrong
[10:19] <Jester45> you can try #ubuntu-effects
[10:20] <blue|palm> Jester45, they are all dead quiet :P
[10:21] <Jester45> so does compiz-fusion need parts of gnome? like regualr compiz
[10:26] <blue|palm> no
[10:26] <blue|palm> its actually decided by whoever compiles the package
[10:27] <blue|palm> so lets hope we get xubuntu-specific packages
[10:27] <maxamillion> Jester45: beryl is a window manager
[10:27] <Jester45> i know it is
[10:28] <maxamillion> or i should read farther back in the convo
[10:28] <Jester45> but the guy said he had the effects but no window manager and i said what it was calling the window manager would be emerald the window decorator
[10:29] <Jester45> i more said what your calling the "window manager" is emerald
[10:29] <maxamillion> ahhhhh ok
[10:29] <maxamillion> :)
[10:29] <Jester45> i was triying not to confuse him... but someone gets confused anyway
[10:30] <maxamillion> lol, the irony of life
[10:34] <Jester45> blue|palm, where did you get compiz-fusion from
[10:34] <blue|palm> Jester45, there are debs... I can't remember where exactly :P
[10:34] <blue|palm> but other people have got it working on ubuntu (from those same debs)
[10:38] <Jester45> from deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb feisty eyecandy   ?
[10:41] <rajkalyan> yo peoples
[10:42] <Jester45> hi
[10:53] <jtg23> hey all i compiled my kernel for the first time last night
[10:53] <jtg23> i followed the ubuntu howtoforge instructions and did 2.6.21-5
[10:53] <jtg23> but it won't boot
[10:54] <jtg23> did i mess up or does the kernel not work properly with my stack?
[10:55] <jtg23> i welcome blind speculation
[10:55] <hyper_ch> help me, I got a Konversation bug ^^
[10:55] <cellofellow> (use xchat or irrsi then)
[10:55] <cellofellow> I don't know Konversation
[10:55] <hyper_ch> cellofellow: nah, I think it's a bug that happens sometimes with some KDE appz
[10:56] <hyper_ch> cellofellow: it has also happened with ktorrent
[10:56] <cellofellow> :(
[10:56] <hyper_ch> and it just displays the icon of konvi or ktorrent in each virtual desktop preview
[10:57] <cellofellow> try #kubuntu
[10:58] <hyper_ch> cellofellow: nope, got kicked out of #kubuntu hence I'm not going in there anymore... but I am in #kubuntu-de
[10:58] <Jester45> :)
[10:59] <Jester45> hey... im running compiz but dont want to use gnome;s window decorator
[10:59] <hyper_ch> the #kubuntu ops are mean
[10:59] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: what happened?
[10:59] <Jester45> can i use xfwm4 for JUST window decoration
[10:59] <hyper_ch> maxamillion: with regard to?
[10:59] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: the #kubuntu ops
[10:59] <maxamillion> actually ... go ahead and tell me but i gotta brb
[11:00] <hyper_ch> maxamillion: hmmm, wanna see the log?
[11:02] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: if you can pastebin it or just send me a link to the official one that would be great
[11:03] <hyper_ch> maxamillion: trying to find the logs
[11:03] <maxamillion> k
[11:10] <hyper_ch> maxamillion: http://phpfi.com/245084
[11:17] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: what if you cut out all joinsand parts?
[11:17] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: ?
[11:17] <TheSheep> egrep -v 'has joined|has quit'
[11:18] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: cut from?
[11:18] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: ah, from the logs :)
[11:18] <hyper_ch> I guess it would shrink by 15-20%
[11:19] <hyper_ch> just run from the shell egrep -v 'has joined|has quit' * ?
[11:20] <TheSheep> hyper_ch: that would print out to the stdin all the logs with joins and parts removed...
[11:20] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: and how to remove them from the logs?
[11:21] <hyper_ch> TheSheep: don't worry.... I still got 1-2 mb available for logs ;)
[11:22] <TheSheep> sed -e 's/^.*(has joined|has quit)$//' *
[11:23] <TheSheep> sorry, -i
[11:23] <hyper_ch> wow
[11:28] <hyper_ch> stil 196 mb
[11:32] <neozen> hyper_ch: indeed ... regex's rule!
[11:33] <hyper_ch> neozen: I know... but they are too complicated for my simple constructed brain
[11:33] <neozen> what model brain?
[11:33] <neozen> we might have a supercharger in stock for you
[11:33] <neozen> may cause death
[11:34] <hyper_ch> a legal brain
[11:34] <neozen> and if it doesn't kill you.... the installation charges will
[11:34] <hyper_ch> isn't regex free
[11:34] <neozen> yes
[11:35] <neozen> and perl-style regexs are supported in just about every modern language
[11:35] <hyper_ch> oh well, I guess I'll never master regex... it's an scientific art on its own
[11:35] <neozen> it can be
[11:36] <neozen> start with the basics
[11:36] <neozen> ..what . is
[11:36] <neozen> what * means
[11:36] <neozen> what ? means
[11:36] <neozen> then move on to ranges (ie [a-z] )
[11:37] <neozen> possibility lists: (ie [abc]  means a OR b OR c)
[11:37] <neozen> you'll get it
[11:38] <hyper_ch> mv /* /dev/null  ^^
[11:40] <UbuntuFeisty> ubuntum, PT
[11:48] <m0u5e> hmm whenever i enable beryl, emerald doesnt take over, and i lose my windows manager decorations
[11:49] <m0u5e> i lose my windows borders, anyone know how to fix this?
[11:55] <maxamillion> m0u5e: alt+f2 and run "xfwm4 &" without the quotes
[11:58] <k-os> join #exaile
[12:01] <jtg23> alright "warning:  trying to assign nonexistent symbol.." -- is anyone familiar with these erros?
[12:08] <TheSheep> jtg23: maye if you provided more context?
[12:08] <jtg23> i'm following the tutorial from the howtoforge re: how to compile and install a kernel
[12:09] <jtg23> at the point where i'm copyign my good config to my empty config, i get pages of these errors
[12:09] <TheSheep> jtg23: what command you are copying it with?
[12:10] <jtg23> actually the copy works fine, ti's when i do make menuconfig
[12:10] <jtg23> and try to load the alternate configuration file
[12:10] <TheSheep> jtg23: was that old config from a different version of kernel?
[12:10] <jtg23> yes
[12:11] <jtg23> 2.16
[12:11] <TheSheep> jtg23: maybe the symbol names changed?
[12:11] <jtg23> ah
[12:11] <jtg23> hm so how do i get a good config?
[12:11] <TheSheep> go through all the menus and slect the options you want?
[12:12] <jtg23> heh
[12:12] <jtg23> oh
[12:12] <jtg23> :P
[12:13] <jtg23> so do i do that now before i compile the new kernel or after i've rebooted into it?
[12:13] <TheSheep> before you compile it
[12:14] <cheeseboy> whats the eaiest way to seup nvidia tvclone?
[12:14] <jtg23> ok, thx thesheep