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sbalneav | Evening all | 03:45 |
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LaserJock | hi sbalneav | 03:53 |
sbalneav | Hey LaserJock | 03:53 |
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sbalneav | Whoa, that was freaky | 04:05 |
sbalneav | ctrlaltf1 to a text screen, ctlaltf7 back, and it boots me out | 04:05 |
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a5benwillis | ello? | 04:51 |
bonbonthejon | hi | 04:52 |
a5benwillis | Im at an Education Tech Conference and have heard a lot of talk about edubuntu today. Of course Ive been using it a wile. I just thought I would share :-) | 04:53 |
a5benwillis | . | 04:53 |
sbalneav | Good things, I hope? :) | 04:53 |
a5benwillis | I also had dinner with a GM from DELL computers. We had a loong conversation about edubuntu. | 04:54 |
a5benwillis | sbalneav: Mostly good | 04:54 |
sbalneav | What were the bad things? | 04:54 |
a5benwillis | the presenter said he didnt recomend it for a beginner because it lacked some things but should be ready with the next release? | 04:54 |
sbalneav | What things did he say it lacked? | 04:55 |
a5benwillis | Sound support for different hardware | 04:55 |
a5benwillis | issues with the ssl login | 04:55 |
a5benwillis | cant remember the others if any | 04:55 |
a5benwillis | The dinner with Dell was very interesting. | 04:55 |
sbalneav | Which issues with the login? I'm interested in those particularly, as I'm re-writing it now. | 04:55 |
a5benwillis | He tells me that Dell's trying to work out a deal to provide the hardware and ubuntu with a support contract to k-12 | 04:56 |
a5benwillis | sbalneav: Even I've have huge issues with being able to authenticate against some other account databases. Novell in particular | 04:57 |
a5benwillis | sbalneav: I hear that theres some new code that changes the way that the login is encrypted allowing it to be more flexible?? | 04:57 |
sbalneav | Well, we still use ssh for the login portion, and plumbing the localdev/sound setup | 04:58 |
sbalneav | but we'll have the option of either running X over ssh, or unencrypted | 04:58 |
sbalneav | so that slower workstations can avoid encrypted X | 04:59 |
a5benwillis | I also had a lengthy conversation with the tech director of a medium sized school district in Washington state. He uses Edubuntu exclusively but he cant get the logins to work against his Netware servers.. | 04:59 |
a5benwillis | sbalneav: OHHH! That reminds me af what the speaker said to a room of about 250 people. | 05:00 |
a5benwillis | sbalneav: Edubuntu can take up to 5 minutes to boot a client!!! | 05:00 |
a5benwillis | sbalneav: So he didnt think it was good for a beginner because they may think theyve done something wrong. | 05:00 |
sbalneav | We've fixed a lot of that. | 05:00 |
sbalneav | Down to about 70 seconds on this 500mhz via client I'm running. | 05:01 |
a5benwillis | great! I dont know if you recognize my name or not. But, I spent a lot of time here a few months ago working on edubuntu/netware authentication...... | 05:01 |
a5benwillis | sbalneav: I really need to get back to my pilot project. It kind of stalled after all of that authentication work. | 05:02 |
sbalneav | Right. wonky netware pam stuff, if I remember correctly. | 05:02 |
a5benwillis | correct "=) | 05:02 |
a5benwillis | sbalneav: I hear that Novell has released some new code to help with linux-netware authentication as well. This may help as well. | 05:03 |
sbalneav | I've seen nothing, but then again, a lot of us are basically ignoring novell now. | 05:04 |
a5benwillis | k-12 in the US still uses its fair share... It would be nice if it had more support in Edubuntu. | 05:05 |
a5benwillis | I plan to start a group in my state to promote the use of open source software. I hope to be able to spread the word. | 05:06 |
a5benwillis | sbalneav: So when will the new login code be in place or released? | 05:08 |
sbalneav | It's already coming into the gutsy tribe releases. I'm working on the scripted greeter now. | 05:09 |
a5benwillis | thanks for the info! I guess I'll be spending more time here again as I try to get our project back online. | 05:10 |
sbalneav | NP | 05:14 |
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sbalneav | AHAHAHAHAHA | 05:50 |
sbalneav | HAHAHA | 05:50 |
sbalneav | HAHHHHH! | 05:51 |
sbalneav | Wheeeee! | 05:51 |
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sbalneav | So, ldm, chatted with the greeter, got the userid, set the prompts, etc. | 05:51 |
sbalneav | and logged in. | 05:51 |
sbalneav | Sexy!!! | 05:51 |
sbalneav | Scott is soooo happy | 05:52 |
sbalneav | heh | 05:54 |
sbalneav | all my truly great triumphs happen when there's no one to see :) | 05:54 |
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LaserJock | hi RichEd | 09:10 |
RichEd | hey LaserJock :) | 09:10 |
RichEd | still need to get to your email ... will try before the meeting today | 09:11 |
jsgotangco | LaserJock: do you still sleep? | 09:11 |
LaserJock | sleep?? what's that? | 09:11 |
jsgotangco | figures | 09:11 |
LaserJock | RichEd: is it the early meeting? | 09:12 |
RichEd | yes indeed | 09:12 |
RichEd | 12:00 utc | 09:12 |
LaserJock | ok, well I know I won't be there | 09:13 |
LaserJock | so, I just so an interesting forum thread on the Add-on CD | 09:13 |
LaserJock | lots of questions | 09:13 |
LaserJock | one was, "How do I install language support from the add-on CD" | 09:13 |
LaserJock | which I totally didn't think about before | 09:14 |
LaserJock | another was how to get all the gcompris languages installed | 09:14 |
RichEd | i'll mention the language add-on to ogra ... also the gcompris ... see if he has answers or ideas | 09:39 |
jsgotangco | RichEd: any roadmap to edubuntu community with regards to delegation of edubuntu membership, us in the CC could not keep up with the number of people | 09:40 |
RichEd | jsgotangco: i'm also a bit swamped as well ... we can bring it up in the meeting today in the community section ? | 09:41 |
RichEd | my mailbox is going insane lately, with work and spam - i hardly get enough time to go though it all :( | 09:42 |
jsgotangco | sure i'll try to attend, i haven't been sleeping properly the past 2 days though, was thinking of retiring early today | 09:42 |
RichEd | jsgotangco: get some rest ... i know the feeling ... restless nights & interrupted sleep accumulates and interferes with immune system and concentration. | 09:47 |
RichEd | so i'll bring the topic up today and let you know | 09:47 |
jsgotangco | ok its not really something high priority, we just have to let people know that edubuntu = ubuntu in terms of membership and probably revive the delegation powers of teams | 09:48 |
LaserJock | jsgotangco: when did it ever go away? | 09:55 |
jsgotangco | it didn't | 09:56 |
jsgotangco | just lost steam on some parts i guess | 09:56 |
LaserJock | hmm | 09:56 |
LaserJock | tbh, I just thought we weren't just weren't attracting new members | 09:57 |
LaserJock | - 1st weren't | 09:57 |
jsgotangco | everytime after a CC we always get a complaint or two about the sched and not being accommodated of sorts | 09:57 |
LaserJock | CC or EC? | 09:58 |
jsgotangco | CC | 09:58 |
LaserJock | makes sense, there are probably a lot of applications | 09:58 |
LaserJock | apparently some people aren't on IRC at all TZs ;-) | 09:59 |
jsgotangco | more meetings won't solve it, delegation should especially contribution-specific applications | 09:59 |
LaserJock | RichEd: the forum thread is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=484973 and I've replied the best I can | 10:03 |
LaserJock | I'm off for the night | 10:03 |
LaserJock | bbl ;-) | 10:03 |
RichEd | night laser ... i'll look at the thread | 10:04 |
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biotrox | please don't kick me | 10:22 |
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biotrox | hiks | 10:22 |
biotrox | bubbye | 10:22 |
biotrox | !languange | 10:22 |
ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about languange - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 10:22 |
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Hobbsee | !ops | 10:22 |
ubotu | Help! ogra, highvoltage, mhz, JaneW, Burgundavia or Seveas | 10:22 |
Hobbsee | bah. | 10:22 |
Hobbsee | he went quietly | 10:22 |
highvoltage | Hobbsee: sorry, just got here | 10:23 |
Hobbsee | highvoltage: kill [18:22] [Whois] biotrox is n=marcos@202.182.48.202 (gaim) | 10:24 |
Hobbsee | he's trolling all ubuntu channels | 10:24 |
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RichEd | hi Hobbsee | 10:41 |
RichEd | and hi highvoltage | 10:41 |
Hobbsee | hiya RichEd | 10:41 |
Hobbsee | highvoltage: hrm. seems to ahve gone away | 10:41 |
Hobbsee | unfortunately, another villiage is missing it's idiot. | 10:41 |
Hobbsee | RichEd: how's it goign? | 10:56 |
highvoltage | heya RichEd | 10:56 |
RichEd | Hobbsee: swamped with work ... trying to keep my nostrils above water level ... but okay otherwise | 10:57 |
Hobbsee | heh | 10:57 |
RichEd | and down under ? | 10:57 |
Hobbsee | RichEd: sounds normal | 10:57 |
Hobbsee | RichEd: finished exams for the semester, have a long TODO list of DOOM!!!, with a lot of kubuntu stuff on it, work, release stuff, assignments. it's all good :) | 10:58 |
Hobbsee | RichEd: keeps me busy, you know the drill. | 10:58 |
jsgotangco | we don't have the luxury of youth anymore | 10:58 |
Hobbsee | speaking to mark hopefully, at some point | 10:58 |
RichEd | Can't remember if you are a Wallaby or an All Black ... but I hear that the Auz press are slagging off the Spriingboks at the moment. | 10:58 |
Hobbsee | jsgotangco: | 10:58 |
Hobbsee | RichEd: aussie here | 10:58 |
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RichEd | Rugby between SA NZ and Auz is not just sport ... it's better than most of the other religions ;) | 10:59 |
Hobbsee | hah | 10:59 |
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highvoltage | 0/win 11 | 01:29 |
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pips1 | hi | 01:54 |
pips1 | meeting in 5? | 01:55 |
RichEd | yes ... | 01:57 |
RichEd | === edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting === 3 mins | 01:57 |
pips1 | i'm currently busy at work... so I'll only be able to listen with half an ear... | 01:57 |
RichEd | that's fine pips1 ... and hi ... | 01:58 |
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RichEd | pips1: van gogh ... | 02:00 |
RichEd | you mean | 02:00 |
pips1 | ups | 02:00 |
pips1 | yep, one of those painters, anyway. duh. | 02:00 |
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sbalneav | Morning all | 02:42 |
highvoltage | hi sbalneav | 02:45 |
RichEd | hey scotty | 02:45 |
sbalneav | Morning RichEd, highvoltage | 02:46 |
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Alexandre | Hello guys , i'm soing the donwload now, how i configure my network?!?!? | 03:14 |
sbalneav | Alexandre: depends on how your network's configured now. :) | 03:16 |
Alexandre | i'm using lts, and wanna go to feisty sbalneav | 03:17 |
Alexandre | but ltsp 5.0 is diferent of 4.1 | 03:17 |
sbalneav | Yep, it is. | 03:18 |
sbalneav | brb | 03:18 |
sbalneav | back | 03:18 |
Alexandre | sbalneav: did you use 5.0 or 4.1/4.2?!?!?! | 03:23 |
sbalneav | I used to use 4.2, now I use 5.0 | 03:25 |
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Alexandre | You'll be here all day?!?!?1 | 03:28 |
Alexandre | After donwload i'll install and try configure | 03:28 |
Alexandre | sbalneav: did you can help me? | 03:28 |
sbalneav | I'll be here most of the day. | 03:29 |
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edistar_ | has anyone got any experience with edubuntu + ldap authentication? | 03:43 |
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sbalneav | I'm running ldap auth here at work. | 03:46 |
edistar | with edubuntu? | 03:47 |
edistar | do you have a good howto so that I can learn how to configure it etc? | 03:47 |
sbalneav | There's a ton of stuff available on the internet | 03:50 |
sbalneav | As well, go to wiki.edubuntu.org, and search for ldap | 03:50 |
edistar | good idea, thanks | 03:52 |
sbalneav | ogra: so, I was having no end of trouble with the greeter. | 03:53 |
sbalneav | It was responding to commands from ldm, but wasn't sending the information back. | 03:54 |
ogra | hrm | 03:54 |
ogra | back to where ? | 03:54 |
sbalneav | to ldm | 03:54 |
sbalneav | turns out, since I'm using printf | 03:54 |
sbalneav | I had to do a setbuf(stdio, NULL) | 03:54 |
ogra | ah :) | 03:57 |
ogra | cant you just write to stdout directly ? | 03:59 |
ogra | withough printf involved | 04:01 |
ogra | *without | 04:01 |
ogra | /me goes for a break while waiting for new isos | 04:02 |
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Baby | hi | 04:15 |
Baby | I plan to develop a classification of the games (and maybe some other stuff) in Debian ( http://www.miriamruiz.es/weblog/?p=69 ) about whether they are appropriate for children or not. Do you think edubuntu might be interested in participating? | 04:17 |
ogra | Baby, absolutely ... would you send a mail to edubuntu-users ? | 04:18 |
Baby | of course, what's the address? :) | 04:18 |
Baby | edubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com ? | 04:19 |
ogra | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users yep :) | 04:19 |
RichEd-1 | ogra: you beat me to it :) | 04:19 |
ogra | heh | 04:19 |
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ogra | well, i'm bored waiting for the next isos to test :) | 04:20 |
Baby | thanks!!! I'll write a mail there :) | 04:20 |
ogra | thanks :) | 04:20 |
ogra | ... also for doing that review :) | 04:20 |
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edistar | if I want to log on the users of edubuntu with ldap, do I need to install the client in a chroot or can I just install it on the server normally? | 05:24 |
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edistar | if I want to log on the users of edubuntu with ldap, do I need to install the client in a chroot or can I just install it on the server normally? | 05:40 |
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ogra | edistar, likely only on the server, but you need to make sure ssh uses it ... (ltsp logins are done through ssh) | 06:06 |
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edistar | wtf... ssh aswell? crickey, how do I do that.. | 06:07 |
ogra | only ssh (for ltsp at least) :) | 06:07 |
ogra | there are config files for ssh in pam ... you ned to make the right adjustments so the ldap server is used instead of local logins | 06:08 |
edistar | puh... | 06:08 |
edistar | I adjusted pam already.. | 06:09 |
edistar | but not with ssh, does pam notice the encryption at all? | 06:09 |
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happywithed | ls -l | 06:11 |
happywithed | hello | 06:11 |
happywithed | Hi ogra, sbalneav | 06:11 |
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ogra | edistar, ssh doesnt care whats in the backend and pam doesnt need to know about encryption :) | 06:12 |
edistar | brilliant | 06:14 |
edistar | ;) | 06:14 |
edistar | wish me luck, I need to have it running in 4 weeks.. | 06:15 |
edistar | ;) | 06:15 |
edistar | enough time | 06:15 |
ogra | there are many people here and in #ltsp that have doent that before, just wait until one of tem comes around and has soem time | 06:15 |
edistar | ok :) | 06:16 |
happywithed | I want to migrate my classroom server from an AMD64 box to more power PPC64 box. I will retire the AMD64 completely as it is making all kinds of noises. So I do want to tranfer everything from that box to the PPC64. I already installed the classroom server on the PPC64 and confirmed that my clients can connect. The next steps are to transfer the Ldif database and the NFS. I have serveral questions on this regard. | 06:16 |
ogra | cliebow is a good ldap guy :) | 06:16 |
happywithed | Q1) I remember that you have to use the slapcat and slapadd commands to transfer the files from one system to the other. In what directory do I have to do that in the AMD64 and the PPC64? | 06:17 |
happywithed | Q2) How do I tranfer all of the NFS data from the AMD64 to the PCC64? Do I just have to copy the /home directory? Will that suffice? | 06:18 |
happywithed | Q3) Is there anything else I need to do? besides that? | 06:19 |
happywithed | Q4) It would be nice if I could do some replication of my PPC64 into another machine so that I don't have to do this in the future if my PPC64 goes bad on me, too. Are there any scripts for replication of the Edubuntu classroom server available? | 06:20 |
happywithed | ogra: thanks, but I think cliebow is not in now. Any ideas? | 06:22 |
ogra | happywithed, that was directed to edistar | 06:22 |
happywithed | :-) | 06:22 |
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ogra | not now, sorry, i'm very busy building edubuntu tribe2 CDs | 06:23 |
happywithed | no problem | 06:23 |
happywithed | anyone else willing to help? | 06:27 |
happywithed | I'll try the ubuntu irc, then | 06:30 |
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LaserJock | morning Edubuntu people | 06:59 |
LaserJock | ogra: how are the CDs coming? | 07:16 |
ogra | i just had a hang with the desktop CD | 07:17 |
ogra | server suffers from bug #121547 and another one i didnt file yet, but is fine otherwise | 07:18 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 121547 in ltsp "[Gutsy] LTSP chroot building process hangs at 50% on Tribe1 CD" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121547 | 07:18 |
LaserJock | hmm | 07:21 |
LaserJock | well, I still can't get the Desktop CD to boot on my mac VMware but I'm suspecting it's just my machine | 07:21 |
LaserJock | I tried it at home on Ubuntu VMware and it worked | 07:22 |
SimonAnibal | LaserJock, we've had some issues with interoperability between VMware Fusion and VMware Server/Workstation | 07:26 |
LaserJock | yeah? | 07:27 |
SimonAnibal | Nodnod, we had a consultant build us a Samba/LDAP server to replace our NT 4.0 Domain Controller. He set it up on VMware Fusion on his MacBook, but that image didn't work on our VMware Server | 07:28 |
SimonAnibal | I don't recall whether he was able to figure out how to make it work somehow, or whether he just recreated his work completely on the VMware server. | 07:28 |
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LaserJock | ogra: when you get back from dinner, I have a question about the About Edubuntu stuff | 07:53 |
ogra | LaserJock, seb and i agreed to talk about a patch to have both items but different icons | 07:55 |
ogra | after tribe release | 07:55 |
LaserJock | ogra: well, don't we install an edubuntu icon for the menu? | 08:22 |
ogra | right | 08:22 |
ogra | but thats used in any place where a distributor icon is used | 08:23 |
ogra | so both items in the menu have the same icon | 08:23 |
ogra | i want the ubuntu icon for the ubuntu item | 08:23 |
ogra | its a compromise replacing it would be a lot harder | 08:24 |
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LaserJock | well | 08:25 |
LaserJock | we could install an edubuntu.png and have About Edubuntu use that | 08:25 |
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Alexandre | sbalneav: i'm back, now on edubuntu did you can help me to configure my network?!?!?! | 08:49 |
Alexandre | sbalneav: my network has 1 server and 8 thins | 08:51 |
sbalneav | Alexandre: Is the autoconfiguration working? | 08:59 |
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Alexandre | aloha | 09:21 |
Alexandre | I want configure my Edubuntu feisty, some one can help me?!?!?!? | 09:21 |
LaserJock | Alexandre: that's a very vague question | 09:23 |
Alexandre | I install the edubuntu now, and want configure | 09:24 |
Alexandre | LaserJock: i have 1 server (with 2 conections) and 8 thins | 09:24 |
Alexandre | LaserJock: I use dapper, but wanna change to feisty, but ltsp is different | 09:26 |
sbalneav | Alexandre: Have you read the Edubuntu handbook? | 09:26 |
Alexandre | LaserJock: so i wanna try install for edubuntu | 09:26 |
sbalneav | It | 09:26 |
Alexandre | I1m reading | 09:26 |
Alexandre | My / opt is empty | 09:30 |
Alexandre | without nothign | 09:30 |
sbalneav | sudo ltsp-build-client | 09:31 |
ogra | Alexandre: but you installed from the server CD ? | 09:33 |
Alexandre | No | 09:34 |
Alexandre | Desktop iso | 09:34 |
ogra | well, for a server you should use the server distro ;) | 09:34 |
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Alexandre | So i need to do this steps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall?!!? | 09:40 |
Alexandre | Ok Houston we have problems!!!!!! | 09:40 |
LaserJock | woah, you don't need so many !'s and ?'s :-) | 09:41 |
Alexandre | LaserJock: ok , so what can i do? | 09:41 |
LaserJock | well, you could use the Edubuntu Classroom Server CD | 09:41 |
LaserJock | to install Edubuntu as an LTSP server | 09:42 |
LaserJock | or I think you can use that wiki page you mentioned | 09:42 |
Alexandre | LaserJock: k | 09:42 |
Alexandre | ok | 09:43 |
cliebow | anyone wanna run apt-cache search java sun in feisty..see if java shows? | 09:45 |
LaserJock | cliebow: works for me | 09:46 |
cliebow | wonder what i messed up this time.. | 09:47 |
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LaserJock | cliebow: do you have Multiverse enabled? | 09:49 |
cliebow | just checking | 09:50 |
cliebow | there...do now for sure..all set.. | 09:51 |
cliebow | LaserJock, Thanks.. | 09:52 |
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cliebow | kernel updates seem to assume one's install is in hd 0,0 this seem logical? | 09:54 |
LaserJock | what do you mean? | 09:55 |
cliebow | it causes a stir if your install id 0,2 | 09:55 |
ogra | kernel updtaes use whats in your grub config | 09:55 |
cliebow | hmmm..i couldnt even use memtest affter kernel update without specifying correct partiton.. | 09:56 |
cliebow | weird. | 09:56 |
cliebow | weird it now shows hard drive as sda as well | 09:57 |
ogra | did you fiddle with menu.lst ? | 09:59 |
ogra | do you have other grub based OSes ? | 09:59 |
cliebow | to getit to boot..yup | 09:59 |
cliebow | just winders | 09:59 |
ogra | well, what did you change in menu.lst ? :) | 10:01 |
ogra | revert that and it should work ;) | 10:01 |
cliebow | just changed 0,0 to 0,2..but i did rip out emtried for about ten old kernels | 10:01 |
ogra | where exactly did you change 0,0 to 0.2 ? | 10:02 |
ogra | there is only one line where you should do that | 10:02 |
LaserJock | cliebow: you aren't supposed to change the "Automagic" parts :-) | 10:02 |
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cliebow | title Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic | 10:03 |
cliebow | root (hd0,2) | 10:03 |
cliebow | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=1c0e718b-a1a9-4d61-bbd6-2b854487936c ro quiet splash | 10:03 |
cliebow | no worries..i got everything working.. | 10:03 |
cliebow | what is preferred way of removing entries for old kernel entries? | 10:03 |
ogra | delete them :) | 10:04 |
LaserJock | remove the kernel that they belong to | 10:04 |
ogra | well, what LaserJock said is more proper :) | 10:04 |
LaserJock | ;-) | 10:04 |
cliebow | ok..i had still dapper kernels in there | 10:04 |
cliebow | and edgy | 10:05 |
cliebow | like 15 of them 8~) | 10:07 |
LaserJock | heh | 10:07 |
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sperotek | hey, i just installed edubuntu 7.04 to fix the local devices (flash drives) problems I was having on thin clients yesterday. However, the flash drives still don't show up, so I looked at the lts.conf file, and it says localdev=true. Any help? | 10:30 |
ogra | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices | 10:32 |
ogra | did you check that ? | 10:32 |
sperotek | i thought my admin account would already let me do everything, like allow use of fuse filesystems | 10:35 |
sperotek | what is a fuse filesystem? | 10:35 |
ogra | fuse is the abbreviation of "filesystem in userspace" its the underlying architecture of ltspfs which is teh network filesystem ltsp uses for local device access | 10:36 |
sperotek | wow perfect, thanks, well written guide :) | 10:42 |
ogra | thanks :) | 10:44 |
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