=== gian\out is now known as giangy === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse__ [n=jjesse@72-255-23-237.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:01] DaSkreech: ? === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@72-255-23-237.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.104.59] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apacheLAGger [n=me@N846P000.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:38] Arby: please try the new live CD, it's working fine for me === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@72-255-23-237.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cynics [n=cynics@123.116.99.96] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-59-129.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@72-255-23-237.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === huahua [n=huahua@60.20.49.26] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:33] it sure is quiet in here [05:34] it is. [05:34] everyone must be fixing bugs, or asleep [05:34] aren't we getting close to another tribe release? [05:34] which means I need to get to work on that page...tomorrow I will do it up, or today depending on where you are ;p [05:36] Hobbsee: It looks like it may be possible to hard code kmail to use gnupg-agent with gpgsm for S/MIME without having to make a global gpg config change by patching the kdepim Make file. If that works, do you think that kind of a solution might be acceptable? [05:36] yeah. main's a lready frozen [05:36] ScottK: as long as it's done in a patch, and it's checked every time that kde releases that it doesnt break anything, it sounds OK. [05:37] ScottK: please commit to bzr, etc. [05:37] i catn remember if i've put the debian/ into bzr yet [05:37] of kdepim [05:38] Right. I'm still trying to figure it out, but my initial look says, "that might work" so I thought I'd check before I expended a huge amount of effort (it takes me a long time to do test builds of kdepim on the machine I have available for it). [05:38] Thanks [05:38] ScottK: are you a MOTU, or did you apply for motu? [05:38] oh wait, brandon's machine seems dead. === ScottK is MOTU [05:38] that's what i thought === ScottK has not had time to figure out imbrandon's stuff yet. [05:39] was going to suggest that you build @ ubuntuwire - but then i rememebered teh machine being dead [05:39] That would limit it's usefullness I suppose ;-) [05:39] hhe, yes [05:42] ScottK: would it help you if I opened up my amd64 box for you to work on? [05:42] nixternal: No. [05:42] k, thought I would ask [05:42] Thanks. [05:43] ScottK: what you *want* to do is find someone with a local mirror too. [05:43] If it built, I'd have an amd64 binary and no where to run it to test. [05:43] Yeah. [05:43] amd64's can build i386 too, if you set up a chroot [05:43] Ahh. === ScottK has no experience with amd64 [05:44] if it builds on x86 it usually builds on amd64 [05:44] you can also have a x86 pbuilder can't you? I haven't tried it out much except for the kde 4 alpha packages [05:48] I've got servers with horsepower to spare, just need to get around to setting up to build stuff there... === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.104.59] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:58] right. anothe rpatch in kdemultimedia [05:59] and less bugs in kdemultimedia :) === ScottK dives into the extremely engaging task of ordering groceries online. === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:07] pygi: you should check kdemultimedia bugs when you have time, too. more burning ones [06:07] hey ryanakca! === manchicken_ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:11] hey Hobbsee === ryanakca yawns widely, notices the time and heads to bed [06:12] night :) [06:15] night! [06:16] okay, having things in bzr seriously rocks. === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:28] right. less bugs in kdemultimedia === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:44] Hey, that only took 45 minutes. Normally it takes longer... [06:45] hooray - down to the last line of stuff to import to bzr [06:45] ScottK: btw - make sure you make any changes into the bzr branchof the debian dir, for kmail suppor [06:45] t [06:46] ScottK: which will save you finding an uploader each time you want to change something [06:46] Hobbsee: I've never usef bzr before. Is there a handy cheat sheet? [06:46] usef/used [06:46] ScottK: yep! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bzr === ScottK looks [06:47] ScottK: we need a get-orig-source line in there, but ihavent looked at doing it. or a watch file. i'm leaving that for someone else. === Hobbsee keeps fixing the odd bug in various source packages, which are both here locally, and in bzr [06:48] there must be an upcomming kubuntu meeting too :) [06:56] Hobbsee: If I check out a kdepim branch, can I keep it up to date with the official version (e.g. svn up)? [06:57] ScottK: that kdepim branch only has the debian/ dir [06:58] Right. Generically, if I check out my own branch, can I keep it synced with the main one? [06:58] Or once I check it out have I split it off? [06:59] Hobbsee: Where do I check out your kdepim debian/dir from? [07:00] ScottK: see https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/ [07:00] ScottK: of course. [07:00] ScottK: no, you just run bzr update, and it updates your branch [07:00] OK. Great. [07:01] of course, you can have a separate branch, and merge whenever you like - or just commit to the main branch [07:01] Enough like svn that it makes sense. Enough different I'll be screwing it up for weeks. [07:01] ScottK: when you go there, it's listed by project, and it has a url for what you checkout with [07:08] OK. It's very late here, so that's enough learning for one night. [07:08] Thanks Hobbsee and good night. [07:08] night ScottK === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.83.207] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Daskreech2 [n=skreech@port0161-aby-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@72-255-23-237.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44670.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Daskreech2 [n=skreech@port0052-acb-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.176.77] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:18] Hobbsee, hm, really? === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:18] pygi: yeah. kaudiocreator [08:18] pygi: no one cares about it, really. i did the last upload for it [08:19] pygi: please note that the debian dir for it is in bzr [08:19] Hobbsee, right [08:20] Hobbsee, what's the LP source package url for thata? [08:20] that* [08:20] sorry, just woke up [08:20] code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/ [08:20] and pick the appropriate source package === pygi clicks [08:21] Hobbsee, how would I see bugs reported against it then? [08:22] pygi: of kdemultimedia? the usual way, with /ubuntu/ [08:22] in the URL [08:22] as in, bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdemultimedia iirc [08:22] that wont work :P [08:22] lemme try [08:22] hm works now === pygi kicks himself [08:23] :) [08:23] ok, I'll look at it tomorrow after exam [08:23] cool [08:23] good luck with the exam [08:23] I don't see any burning stuff tho? [08:23] thanks ^^ [08:25] it's more cd stuff [08:26] aha, ok :) [08:26] and I guess I [08:26] 'I'm supposed to be local expert on that? :P === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:27] Hobbsee, just joking ya, sorry :) morning and stuff :P [08:29] :P [08:29] Hobbsee, you don't mind, right? :) [08:29] not angry or stuff? :) === serzholino [n=serzh@fw.zaporizhstal.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:32] nah, of course not [08:32] just doing other stuf [08:33] Hobbsee, great ;) === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse_ [n=jjesse@72-255-23-237.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Zerlinna [n=mirjam@C2840.c.strato-dslnet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:57] joy of calendar syncing: http://www.tm-travolta.net/pics/syncflow.png === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:52] anyone up for testing a kubuntu alternate cd? [09:52] or a desktop cd, if on amd64? [09:55] hiya Jucato [09:58] oh hi! [09:58] :) [09:58] 64-bit? can't do... don't have one [09:58] darn === Jucato is darn poor :) [09:59] heh [09:59] i dont either [09:59] :) === mario_ [n=mario@83-131-30-144.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mario_ is now known as pygi [10:14] morning [10:15] hiya [10:19] o no, mhb is back :) === aplg [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@72-255-23-237.client.stsn.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:35] pygi: is that bad? :o) [10:35] mhb, just joking ya ;) [10:36] Jucato: interesting discussion on #kde earlier [10:40] Jucato: I'm not quite happy about the fact you seem to be content with [10:49] mhb, what happened? :) === LongPointyStick [n=mystery@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:56] mhb: what discussion? === Jucato goes away in the meantime... [11:13] pygi: well, close to the usual "kubuntu vs. ubuntu" [11:13] mhb, just saw it [11:13] I hate such discussions [11:17] Riddell: tested the new liveCD, couple of minor issues but nothing to worry about [11:24] mhb: I left the discussion because I left the computer. /me went out :) [11:24] so I had no idea where the discussion went... [11:26] Jucato: the interesting thing (for me) was your content with the current situation [11:27] which was? [11:27] sorry my memory's failing me today... === kwwii [n=kwwii@p5495650A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:45] Jucato: use the logs, then :o) [11:54] why don't we have FLAC support in kubuntu by default? === _marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.176.77] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:14] Arby: i386? [12:14] Riddell: yep [12:15] we need an amd64 tester now [12:16] Arby: did you see any mount dialogue appear during the install? [12:16] no nothing like that [12:16] oh wait, hang on [12:17] this was testing the live session, haven't had time to do a full install [12:17] stuck at work, test machine at home [12:18] Arby: bug 122504, why would you expect it to be set to UK? [12:18] Launchpad bug 122504 in casper "Kubuntu 20070627 UK keyboad is set to US keymap on liveCD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122504 [12:18] because it's a UK keyboard and it's been properly detected before? [12:18] either that or I've never used the right keys in live session to notice [12:19] you can't detect keyboard layout [12:19] oh [12:19] must be my bad then [12:19] I'd never noticed that before [12:19] you can set the language at the live CD boot screen [12:19] or "detect" on the alternate CD with the weird press lots of buttons method [12:20] I didn't but would selecting english default to a US keyboard then? [12:20] like it does in the installer [12:21] feel free to reject it if it's my screw up [12:21] just wasn't aware of that behaviour [12:21] english will, british english shouldn't [12:22] what does the liveCD default to, I didn't change anything? [12:22] oh right nevermind [12:22] didn't read your reply properly [12:23] Riddell: should I reject it then, sounds like that's my fault === Riddell makes it sew [12:24] cool :) [12:24] I'll try to do a proper install later but today is not good [12:24] E_NOTIME === Tonio_ [n=tonio@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:37] hey [12:37] Riddell: ping ? [12:40] hi Tonio_ [12:40] hi ;) [12:41] Riddell: just to let you know I'll update the kdebase package toonight with a few fixes [12:41] Riddell: I also noticed a few issues and missing features in the kdepim package [12:41] Riddell: I'll fix them and take contact with the debian packaging team [12:41] Riddell: we don't have any opensync support in kmail, no syncml, which is really annoying [12:42] Riddell: also I'll be on my contrib day on friday and and now have internet at home, so I'll be available in the evening :) [12:43] Tonio_: we're in freeze just now, commit to the bzr archives instead [12:43] Tonio_: did you fix the kdm i18n issue? [12:45] Riddell: yep [12:46] Riddell: did we do the transition for source packages in bzr ? [12:46] Riddell: where to commit ? [12:46] Tonio_: see code ...~kubuntu-members [12:46] Riddell: okay :) === rraphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:06] nixternal: ping, how's the tribe 2 page? === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fritsch [i=b4WdWMS4@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [i=apokryph@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:57] nixternal: think we'll be able to docbookify that howto? [02:02] mhb: know of any testers able to do amd64? [02:04] Riddell: Did you see the kubuntu-users posting about "Where is Kcontrol?" [02:04] Riddell: i had one testing amd64 desktop, but havent seen the results on the tracker, and havent had an email saying that he'd done it. [02:07] Riddell: And who do I talk to about this apt problem? [02:07] Riddell: I'm kinda tired of being roadblocked with what little time I do have to hack. [02:08] Tonio_: Did you get my katapult patch? === glatzor [n=renate@p57AED826.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:09] Riddell: ahhh, he's going to download it overnight, and test then [02:11] ok [02:19] manchicken: not yet, I jsut recovered my home connections 2 days ago [02:19] Tonio_: Congrats :) [02:19] manchicken: ping me tomorrow evening, I'll be at home and available to commit [02:19] Tonio_: Righto. [02:19] It's 0712 here, silly timezones :) [02:27] Riddell: I could test it up to install... [02:29] ryanakca: amd64? === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:30] Riddell: yes, AMD Athlon64 3500+ is amd64, right? [02:30] ryanakca: yes, that would be great [02:31] ryanakca, Athlon*64* :) [02:31] Riddell: ok, poke me whenn you need me to test CDs, and I'll add blank CDs to my shopping list [02:31] ryanakca: now now! [02:31] okies :P [02:31] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20070626.2/ [02:35] hmm... no bittorrent. Normal download it is... === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.104.59] has joined #kubuntu-devel === n8k99 [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.104.59] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:54] Riddell: How stable is the image? [02:54] And are you just looking for someone to test the live CD image? [02:56] manchicken: yes, amd64 preferably [02:56] i386 is a work of perfection [02:57] Is it ready to dist upgrade? [02:57] I can test the CD image no problem. Do you have a test plan? [02:57] err, s/CD image/Live CD/ [02:58] https://isotesting.stgraber.org/isotesting/iso/Kubuntu# [02:58] I have an amd64 machine running vista that could use a break from fascistware for a little bit. [02:58] boot, install, report any bugs you come accross [02:59] I can't install the ISO on that machine. [02:59] If you think gutsy is stable enough for a normal working machine though, then I can dist-upgrade. [03:02] I'll grab the torrent and seed it. === n8k99_ [n=nathan@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:09] Grumble... [03:10] No seeders. [03:11] use http [03:11] Riddell: Is gutsy ready for normal use yet? I don't mind little instability, but I want to make sure it's sane enough to use. [03:12] manchicken: it's working well for me [03:12] Okay, would you think it unwise for me to dist upgrade? [03:12] manchicken I can seed for you if you wish [03:13] ryanakca: I'm downloading the ISO. I think I can form a seed from that after I'm done downloading, right? [03:13] dunno, that's what I was thinking of doing [03:13] open the torrent in ktorrent [03:13] I'll try it. [03:13] i think all I have to do is move the ISO into the directory after the download. [03:14] set it to download, it doesn't download, replace what it thinks the uncomplete iso is with the complete one, it notices it's done, it seeds [03:14] Riddell: I'll try a dist-upgrade here in a minute. [03:14] manchicken: I'd suggest that if you are asking the question, then answer is no (about stability) - No guarantees at all that something won't get borked along the way. [03:14] ScottK: I know that. I just wanted to make sure panics weren't common or anything like that. [03:14] OK. [03:15] manchicken: we don't care about torrents for dailies, we just need the amd64 CDs tested [03:15] Besides, it couldn't be much worse than the move to 2.6.20 :) [03:15] Riddell: Yeah. I'm snagging it and I'll test it in live CD mode on this windows machine when I've got it. [03:16] DAMN! I'm cranking at 1.2MB/s [03:16] Very nice. [03:21] Okay, I've got the ISO, I'll burn it and try the live CD out on the vista machine. === pygi [n=mario@83-131-30-144.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [03:23] My last blank CD... [03:24] Damn. [03:25] rewritable CDs are a great thing [03:25] actually I tend to use DVDs [03:25] These are rewritable... [03:26] But can they rewrite with full ISOs? I thought that was just multi-session stuff.... [03:26] Riddell: I'll give dist-upgrade a whirl as soon as I get this ISO burned. [03:26] I'm hoping the kernel upgrade will do good things. [03:31] Okay, dist-upgrade time. [03:36] I'll also see if there's any neat winfoss :) [03:37] WinFOSS browser hates the scroll wheel. [03:38] Wow, only three programs. [03:38] Not even Pidgin... [03:39] we had to scale it down for lack of space [03:39] I don't know what's going on, but I'm getting some insane download speeds. [03:40] Riddell: Yeah, I figured. [03:40] Riddell: If we had to scale anything down, that's probably the best thing to do so with. [03:40] I've got the live CD booted. That's good. [03:41] phew [03:41] It started in 800x600 though. [03:41] I'll see if I can get the video resolution and everything correct. [03:43] Ack, is there a default user and password on the livecd? [03:44] ubuntu seems to be the user, but do you know what the password is? [03:45] err [03:45] it shouldn't need one [03:45] does it give you the KDM screen? [03:47] I logged out trying to get the new X settings to take place. [03:47] No luck. [03:48] displayconfig doesn't seem to work very well in the liveCD [03:48] Although I had this same problem with feisty. [03:48] I'm trying to get it to go to 1650x1050 resolution. [03:49] Is the ISO testing site using LP username and password? [03:50] manchicken: no, it's a separate thing [03:52] Okay, so trying to test hardware settings in displayconfig is not working for me. [03:52] In konsole I'm seeing Python backtraces and calls to non-existent apport. [03:52] The specific error is "IndexError: list index out of range" [03:53] in file /var/lib/python-support/pyhon2.5/displayconfigabstraction.py around line 690, function "writeXorgConfig" [03:54] Then again in the same file, line 641 in gfxcard._syncXorgConfig, and then 1283 in _syncXorgConfig with the context of "module = self.x_config.getSections('module')[0] [03:54] " [03:54] Gosh I hope that helps. [03:56] But to be honest, I think that exact same problem was happening in Feisty. [03:58] And I think the kernel just panicked trying to reboot on the live CD. [03:58] I don't think that's a very common use case though. [03:59] Well, no, I'm wrong. [03:59] They'd have to reboot after the install is done. [04:13] Tm_T: ? [04:13] DaSkreech: ? [04:13] DaSkreech: ah, what about jucato? [04:14] ? [04:17] manchicken: this is a bug in guidance [04:17] glatzor: Won't argue with you on any of that :) [04:17] manchicken: currently it requires a modules section in your xorg.conf [04:18] manchicken: I am going to fix this after my final exams :) [04:18] glatzor: Then if putting a modules section in xorg.conf is the problem, maybe we should put one in the xorg config on the live CD :) [04:19] manchicken: does the live cd currently use a xorg.conf file at all? [04:19] manchicken: sorry, but I am not uptodate :/ [04:20] I think it creates one on the fly, don't know for sure. [04:20] hm [04:20] I will look at this at the weekend [04:24] Riddell: burning... [04:24] I'm playing hell trying to get ia32-libs installed. [04:25] manchicken: why not just setup dchroot? [04:27] Because I'm hoping the kernel update will make my life easier by allowing me to suspend and resume again. [04:28] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27430/ [04:28] manchicken: Damn you ChickenMan! [04:29] manchicken: ^z and `fg` don't work for you? [04:29] ryanakca: Not for the whole computer they don't ;) [04:30] manchicken: ah, hehe [04:30] manchicken: try uninstalling mplayer32, installing ia32-libs, and then reinstalling mplayer32 [04:30] Tm_T: I said something about Jucato? [04:30] That's what I'm doing. [04:30] bah, forget [04:34] Tm_T: Last thing I remember saying was somethign about WOrldWind and >net which I lead into with a java question shot at nixternal [04:34] Then you pinged me with ? [04:34] Ah, shitze, I think I found the problem. === DaSkreech leeches off manchicken's insane bandwidth [04:35] It takes me like a night to download a CD :( [04:35] The dist-upgrade seems to want to kill ia32-libs-gtk [04:37] I'll try aptitude and see if that helps. [04:38] DaSkreech: jucato and gearhead [04:39] Oh right. Yeah he got a VHF [04:39] and that is... [04:39] Virtual High Five === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:39] oki [04:39] hiya xerosis [04:39] hey Hobbsee [04:40] hi kids [04:40] thanks for doing some of the bug triage - keep it up! :D [04:40] hi non-triager. [04:40] HI Hobbsee [04:40] hi other non-triager [04:40] aka, not cool people :P [04:40] Hobbsee: i've been slack of late, much more to come :) [04:40] :P [04:40] cool :) === Hobbsee probably closed 60 or so bugs yesterday [04:40] woo! [04:41] xerosis: just remember - most bits of kde debian/ dirs are in bzr now, so please use them to commit fixes. [04:41] meaning you can fix little bugs, some at a time, and then go back, and dont have to find a sponsor each time. [04:41] *cough* 12248 *cough* [04:41] Hobbsee: hum, like to test opensync-kdepim plugin? crashes here ;) [04:41] Hobbsee: You had asked me to do a Inclusion report before I got ill [04:41] bug 12248 [04:41] Launchpad bug 12248 in xorg "[i810] ddc sync ranges get lost in mode validation" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12248 [04:41] what was it about? [04:41] oops... [04:41] xerosis: hrm? [04:41] bug 122448 [04:41] Launchpad bug 122448 in amarok "Rating no longer confirmed by OSD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122448 [04:42] DaSkreech: indeed. i dont remember what on, and i lost my logs since then. [04:42] confirmed? as shown? isn't that user controlled? [04:42] Hobbsee: where about are the bzrs? [04:42] DaSkreech: oh. was an amarok wishlist bug [04:42] xerosis: code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members [04:42] which? [04:42] DaSkreech: the one about adding support for something or other. [04:43] i think it might be assigned to me [04:43] DaSkreech: about adding karma support [04:43] main inclusion report for libkarma [04:43] no idea if it passes or fails the main tests [04:44] kk [04:45] aptitude seems to be having a better time now... === xerosis_ [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xerosis_ mumbles about madwifi [04:46] haha [04:47] has anyone got any VM recommendations that aren't vmplayer or qemu? [04:49] virtualbox [04:49] thanks, will have a look [04:52] virtualbox seems to keep dying here [04:52] keeps losing the machines, or says the have the wrong uuid, etc [04:53] well vm and qemu both run like crap on amd64 for some reason :/ [04:54] i think i moved the location, and it keeps dying ever since. or something === Hobbsee_ [n=mystery@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee_ is now known as LongPointyStick [04:57] Hobbsee: where are the kde bzrs? === mbiebl [n=michael@e180070166.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:01] Hobbsee: When I tried to get the kdepim debian dir in bzr, the directory I wanted to put it in was created, but nothing got downloaded. I'm not a memeber of kubuntu-members. Is that a problem or is it something else? [05:02] ScottK: you should be directly, i thought [05:02] [00:42] xerosis: code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members [05:02] er, indirectly === ScottK looks. [05:03] Hobbsee: I don't see it on my LP profile. [05:04] hrm. === xerosis_ is also not a member [05:04] Should all ubuntu-dev also be kubuntu-members? [05:05] ubuntu-dev is probably a part of ubuntu-members, of which kubuntu-members should also be a part. or something [05:05] i dunno. back soon [05:05] ScottK: and why arent you a kubuntu member? [05:05] Because since I was an Ubuntu member there didn't seem to be a reason to be a kubuntu member too. Now it appears there is. [05:06] I joined as an Ubuntu member because I do server stuff that's not really relevant to Kubuntu. [05:06] oh blerg. [05:06] either the LP permissions are stuffed, or it's just a nuisance [05:07] Hobbsee: does that mean I can't bzr up? [05:07] ScottK: er, where is the ~ubuntu-members team now? [05:08] Hobbsee: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntumembers [05:08] ScottK: ahh, no - [05:08] No? [05:09] no dash [05:09] ScottK: added you manually === ScottK heads to the kitchen for more coffee. Clearly needed. [05:09] Hobbsee: Thanks. === Hobbsee wonders if ubuntumembers should be a member of kubuntu-members. the reverse already happens. [05:10] xerosis_: it means that you can branch, but you cant commit to the main branch [05:10] iirc [05:10] Hobbsee: okay, i guess that's fair enough [05:11] Hobbsee: How does LP do with circular team membership? Would there be a recursion issue (not kidding)? [05:11] ScottK: dunno, to be honest. the recursion is why i havent done it to this point [05:12] It might be fun to try out, but probably not on teams as large as those. [05:15] uh, yeah :P === LongPointyStick is now known as Hobbsee === sacater [n=sacater@ubuntu/member/colchester-lug.sacater] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:42] Hobbsee: I think I know why I was getting an empty kdepim/debian dir... https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdepim/debian says, "This branch is empty." Is there a different one I should be pulling from? [05:43] that *should* exist [05:43]