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UbuntuServerUser	it says "file name to right out : etc/list (w/e it is" then I hit enter and it says wrote 44 lines	12:14
ActionParsnip	coreymon77: add /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 to your /etc/fstab	12:15
zorglu_	wow globalling this edgy->feisty went pretty well	12:15
stdin	UbuntuServerUser: then Ctrl+X should just close it	12:15
UbuntuServerUser	Hmm ok that worke	12:15
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UbuntuServerUser	weird...thanks	12:16
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banksey	!wine	12:16
ubotu	wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.	12:16
coreymon77	ActionParsnip: why the /dev/hda1 part	12:16
coreymon77	ActionParsnip: my hd already mounts. my cdrw/dvdrom drive jsut wont	12:16
zorglu_	wine is good to dev window stuff while being on linux	12:16
ActionParsnip	coreymon77: my dvdrw is on that controller, if yours is on secondary master use hdc	12:17
happytiger	On a fresh install kubuntu server do I need to install a cron daemon before a job sumbitted throug crontab -e is excexuted???	12:17
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ActionParsnip	coreymon77: secondary slave = hdd	12:17
happytiger	feisty release	12:17
devnull	most distro installs automatically have a cron daemon	12:17
TeraDyne	!cron	12:17
ubotu	cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto - There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm	12:17
stdin	happytiger: no	12:17
coreymon77	ActionParsnip: how do i know where it is, linux is on hdb	12:18
happytiger	hmm then do I need to submit the job using sudo?	12:18
coreymon77	but windows is on hda	12:18
happytiger	or will standard user suffice	12:18
ActionParsnip	its probably on hdc	12:18
ActionParsnip	lemme see how you can check	12:18
stdin	happytiger: you only need sudo for editing the system crontab	12:19
happytiger	0,12,13,14,15 0,4,5,6,7,8 * * * w /home/myuser/script is in crontab for my user	12:19
happytiger	but it doesnt run	12:19
TeraDyne	does the script itself need sudo?	12:19
happytiger	nope it doesnt	12:19
Lunar_Lamp	happytiger, is the script a bash script? You might need to do "bash /home/myuser/script"	12:19
happytiger	it is a perl script	12:20
ActionParsnip	coreymon77: try ls -al /dev/cd*	12:20
happytiger	which run fine from command line	12:20
Lunar_Lamp	happytiger, well, "perl /path/to/script".	12:20
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Lunar_Lamp	happytiger, also, crontab will only run for events >2 mins in the future after you edit it, as the crontab file is only checked every 2mins - are you sure those options are what you want though?	12:20
happytiger	do i really need add perl? when I can run it straight form cmd line using /home/mysuser script	12:21
coreymon77	ActionParsnip:	12:21
coreymon77	lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-06-26 12:37 /dev/cdrom -> scd0	12:21
coreymon77	lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-06-26 12:37 /dev/cdrw -> scd0	12:21
ActionParsnip	coreymon77: that shows which hdx your cd drive is on	12:21
Lunar_Lamp	happytiger, try it - I've seen other users doing it that way :-)	12:21
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happytiger	Ahh oki 2 mins in future	12:21
banksey	Anyone know a good site for Konqueror Add-ons/Plug-ins?	12:21
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happytiger	that might be the problem	12:21
ActionParsnip	then youu dont use hdx you use /dev/scd0	12:21
coreymon77	ActionParsnip: thats the output, so what does it mean?	12:21
coreymon77	ActionParsnip: so whats the fstab entry?	12:22
happytiger	Lunar_Lamp: could do though sounds silly	12:22
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Lunar_Lamp	0,12,13,14,15 0,4,5,6,7,8 <== on the hour, 12,131415 mins past, on the hours, midnight, 4am, 5am, 6am,7am,8am?! Are you sure that's what you want?	12:22
ActionParsnip	coreymon77: same as I said, just change it to /dev/scd0	12:22
UbuntuServerUser	anyone know of a good newbie friendly guide to install and configure Samba via CLI ?	12:22
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stdin	coreymon77: "/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0"	12:22
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happytiger	changed to 0,25,26,27,28 0,4,5,6,7,8 * * * w perl /home/one2super/SALESINFO/doAll.pl	12:23
ActionParsnip	and make the folder in /media/cdrom0	12:23
happytiger	so should come 0:25 to =28	12:23
ActionParsnip	coreymon77: you'll need to sudo that one	12:23
happytiger	with both perl and 2 mins limit out of the way	12:23
randoman	what was cause "dpkg --configure -a, aptitude update . Not to clear "you have old thrid party modules lying around" in "Monitor & Display"?	12:23
happytiger	sits with fingers crossed :-)	12:23
happytiger	Lunar_Lamp: Yes I wnated to have it run 23:24...28 to make it run	12:24
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ActionParsnip	coreymon77: you should then just be able to use mount /media/cdrom0	12:24
ActionParsnip	coreymon77: as far as I recall	12:24
ActionParsnip	coreymon77: restart should make it ok	12:25
happytiger	Lunar_Lamp: Later it should just run 0 6,7,8 * * * w perl /home/one2super/SALESINFO/doAll.pl	12:25
Lunar_Lamp	<happytiger> changed to 0,25,26,27,28 0,4,5,6,7,8 * * * w perl /home/one2super/SALESINFO/doAll.pl <== what's the 'w' for? Also, I presume it's 00:24 or 04:24 etc where you are?	12:25
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randoman	anyone?	12:25
happytiger	my time is 00:25 now	12:25
coreymon77	ActionParsnip: including the "" or no?	12:26
Lunar_Lamp	Ok, then it should work -but I'm confused about the presence of that "w" before the word perl - what's that for?	12:26
ActionParsnip	randoman: what are you trying to achieve?	12:26
randoman	well	12:26
happytiger	w should be all weekdays?	12:26
coreymon77	ActionParsnip: and what if i want it to automount, as in, it will be detected as a device even if there is no cd in the drive	12:26
ActionParsnip	coreymon77: thats the auto bit ;)	12:27
Lunar_Lamp	happytiger, "w" is a command in and of itself :-/	12:27
happytiger	ups the w should not be there damn	12:27
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Lunar_Lamp	happytiger, "0,12,13,14,15 0,4,5,6,7,8 * * 1,2,3,4,5" <== that's what I'd use for weekdays.	12:27
UbuntuServerUser	anyone know of a good newbie friendly guide to install and configure Samba via CLI ?	12:27
happytiger	So if I want all weekday	12:27
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randoman	when i go to monitor $ display , I get this " an error occured durring your last kde upgrade leaving an orphaned conrol module""you have old third partie modules lying around". I wanted to clear that. I though "dpkg --configure -a followed with aptitude update" would fix it	12:27
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knakso	'sudo apt-get install samba'	12:27
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randoman	it once before when I had the problem	12:28
happytiger	0,25,26,27,28 0,4,5,6,7,8 * * * /home/one2super/SALESINFO/doAll.pl	12:28
happytiger	that would be better	12:28
stdin	UbuntuServerUser: you may find more help in the #ubuntu-server room	12:28
devnull	o.O	12:28
devnull	holy crap!	12:28
devnull	compiz-fusion is NUTS	12:28
randoman	but its not working anymore	12:28
randoman	its great	12:28
coreymon77	ActionParsnip: this is whats already in my fstab	12:28
Lunar_Lamp	<happytiger> 0,25,26,27,28 0,4,5,6,7,8 * * * /home/one2super/SALESINFO/doAll.pl <== that's every day of the week. Every weekday would be replacing the last asterix with 1,2,3,4,5	12:28
ActionParsnip	coreymon77: /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0	12:28
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ActionParsnip	coreymon77: whack that in fstab	12:29
randoman	i all i want them to add to fusion is the 3d effects	12:29
coreymon77	/dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0	12:29
randoman	that was my favorite plugin	12:29
happytiger	I need all 7 days a week	12:29
happytiger	so * right?	12:29
coreymon77	ActionParsnip: should i just change that to scd0	12:29
TeraDyne	in Konversation, shouldn't "(slant)list" open a new tab that lists the channels in a nice interface?	12:29
Lunar_Lamp	happytiger, if you need all 7 days, just use an asterix :-)	12:29
ActionParsnip	coreymon77: yes	12:29
randoman	<ActionParsnip>: any ideas	12:29
randoman	ActionParsnip: any ideas	12:29
devnull	randoman: what 3d effects?	12:29
coreymon77	ActionParsnip: okay, then what, restart?	12:29
ActionParsnip	randoman: fusion plugin for what?	12:29
randoman	in beryl	12:29
devnull	like burning windows and stuff?	12:29
stdin	TeraDyne: yes, after a warning anyway	12:29
happytiger	Lunar_Lamp: oki I have boiled it down to 0,33,34,35,36 0,4,5,6,7,8 * * * /home/one2super/SALESINFO/doAll.pl	12:29
ActionParsnip	randoman: not heard of it, lemme look	12:29
happytiger	So that should run in a few minutes then	12:30
randoman	the 3d effect to lift the windows off the desktop when rotating the cube	12:30
devnull	randoman: li	12:30
devnull	k	12:30
UbuntuServerUser	can someone tell me why openoffice.org is installed in Ubuntu server edition?	12:30
Lunar_Lamp	happytiger, yes, the only reason why it may not is that you may need to prefix the command with "perl" - but don't think you should need to.	12:30
Dragnslcr	randoman- the dev version of Fusion is in its own repository	12:30
Lunar_Lamp	UbuntuServerUser, it's not... Server edition doesn't even come with X installed.	12:30
devnull	Don't really know what you mean on that randoman	12:30
randoman	yeah I know	12:30
randoman	trevihno	12:30
coreymon77	ActionParsnip: restart now?	12:30
randoman	or whatever it is	12:30
UbuntuServerUser	apt-cache pkgnames	12:31
ActionParsnip	coreymon77: yeah should make it ok	12:31
happytiger	Lunar_Lamp: Yup I have that in mind I will add perl in a few min if this doesnt cut it :-)	12:31
UbuntuServerUser	And I see alot of open office and some thunderbird	12:31
cje	hi, I am a simple end user coming from openSUSE to kubuntu edgy. I know just a few command line scripts. I have a lot of video files that I have copied to an external hard drive, and I would like to now use the rmdir command to permanently delete directories and their contents, because IMHO rm is faster and more complete than Konqueror. I am not sure how to use the rmdir command, though, because I keep getting the error that the dir is non-empty.	12:31
cje	Thanks in advance.	12:31
ActionParsnip	randoman: sudo apt-get install fusion ?	12:31
happytiger	Super thanks for the input	12:31
Dragnslcr	randoman- I believe the package you want from that repository is compiz-core	12:31
happytiger	Now I just sit tight and waiiit :-)	12:31
ActionParsnip	cje: rm -rf <dir name>	12:31
randoman	use this repo , in your /etc/apt/sources.list	12:32
randoman	deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb feisty eyecandy	12:32
ActionParsnip	cje: this will destroy the data in the folder you state and all sub dirs	12:32
cje	ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll give that a try!	12:32
randoman	and do apt-get compiz, compiz-fusion*	12:32
UbuntuServerUser	so is it safe to remove thunderbird-locale-sv-se	12:32
randoman	etc	12:32
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randoman	also apt-get update	12:32
Dragnslcr	randoman- no, there is no package named 'fusion' yet. The package name is compiz-core	12:32
randoman	do what I said	12:33
randoman	or follow this	12:33
randoman	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314	12:33
randoman	sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager	12:33
randoman	sudo apt-get install libcompizconfig-backend-gconf	12:33
randoman	ND/OR (If you use Kubuntu)	12:33
randoman	sudo apt-get install libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig	12:33
randoman	sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-*	12:33
randoman	thats it	12:33
randoman	you can also install compiz-icon	12:33
randoman	a little buggy	12:33
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Schuenemann	!pastebin \| randoman	12:34
ubotu	randoman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	12:34
randoman	sorry	12:34
TeraDyne	Back, stdin : I thought so. I must have mistyped it. Thanks.	12:34
randoman	ive seen people post more lines that that though ;P	12:34
stdin	TeraDyne: you can just press F5 too	12:34
Lunar_Lamp	randoman, doesn't mean it's good ;-) In a channel like this, more than 2-3 lines makes the channel hard to read for everyone :(	12:34
randoman	for sure	12:35
zorglu_	!info gcc	12:35
ubotu	gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB	12:35
randoman	well i hope i just help a good amount of people with fusion :P	12:35
Schuenemann	!info sopcast	12:35
ubotu	Package sopcast does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas	12:35
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randoman	if you have intel64 or amd 64, there are no packages. you have to install from a git source	12:35
TeraDyne	stdin: Ok. Thanks	12:35
ActionParsnip	!info moo	12:36
ubotu	Package moo does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas	12:36
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ActionParsnip	Stupid bot, it does exist	12:36
cje	ActionParsnip: thanks, that seems to have worked on one test dir. Now if I want to do the same things on multiple dirs all in the same dir, how do I delete multiple dirs? Do I do rm -rf <dirname> <dirname2> <dirname3> or do I put commas in there between the dir names?>	12:36
Arwen	does the bot only search the main repository? geez	12:37
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ActionParsnip	cje: i'd do it rm -rf <dirname>; rm -rf <dir2 name> etc...	12:37
UbuntuServerUser	OK this is weird, when i do apt-cache search mplayer I see kmplayer comes up, I'm running Ubuntu server	12:37
ActionParsnip	cje: or	12:37
Arwen	UbuntuServerUser, do you have multiverse enabled?	12:38
ActionParsnip	cje: while x is in full path to folder1> <full path to folder 2>	12:38
UbuntuServerUser	What is multiverse	12:38
ActionParsnip	cje: rm -rf $xx	12:38
UbuntuServerUser	And how would I know	12:38
Arwen	!repos \| UbuntuServerUser	12:38
ubotu	UbuntuServerUser: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	12:38
UbuntuServerUser	I'm running Ubuntu Server	12:38
Arwen	so use w3m	12:39
ActionParsnip	cje: go easy with rm -rf. its a big delete	12:39
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TeraDyne	I'm off. later.	12:39
cje	ActionParsnip: right. I will go easy. I do understand that it is a severely powerful tool	12:39
knakso	Arwen: so use -rfi	12:40
ActionParsnip	cje: good	12:40
ActionParsnip	cje: )	12:40
cje	ActionParsnip: I didn't quite get the command, though.	12:40
Arwen	knakso, that requires the user to remember to add i...	12:40
tafex_	hi	12:40
knakso	Arwen: asking by default is bad.	12:40
cje	ActionParsnip: what do you mean by "x is in the full path"?	12:40
tafex_	i got a problem with my ftp server	12:40
ActionParsnip	cje: its rm (remove) r (recursive f (force)	12:40
tafex_	i need help	12:41
Arwen	knakso, not true. It would keep people from b0rking their systems	12:41
cje	ActionParsnip: right, thanks I have that much.	12:41
ActionParsnip	cje: its scripting but i wouldnt advise it with rm	12:41
cje	oh	12:41
cje	k	12:41
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Lunar_Lamp	UbuntuServerUser, do you see those packages when you do "dpkg -l"? dpkg -l lists installed packages only:-)	12:41
yeniklasor	Can you tell me what is fastest torrent program ?	12:41
UbuntuServerUser	Thanks Lunar, thats what I needed	12:41
tafex_	bit torrent	12:41
Arwen	UbuntuServerUser, hint: why do you need mplayer on a server?	12:41
Lunar_Lamp	Arwen, he doesn't - that's what he's confused about.	12:42
knakso	Arwen: maybe it should ask 5 time snad create 3 backups when you use --remove --realy-yes --force	12:42
UbuntuServerUser	I have no idea what I'm talking about don't listen to me	12:42
UbuntuServerUser	Lunar nailed it on the head	12:42
Arwen	yeniklasor, faster as in download speed? or faster as in cpu usage?	12:42
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Arwen	Lunar_Lamp, ok	12:42
BluesKaj	there is no fastest torrent app, the speed is determined by your ISP and the file sources	12:42
Arwen	^^	12:42
yeniklasor	download speed	12:42
ActionParsnip	knakso: write a script dude	12:42
Arwen	yeniklasor, no such thing.	12:42
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Arwen	now, for faster as in cpu usage, I recommend ktorrent or rtorrent	12:43
knakso	Arwen: sacrasm?	12:43
cje	ActionParsnip: I have about 20 dirs with over 140 GB of video that I need to del in order to make room for more. That is why I wanted to automate it. But I guess I will just use kdesudo Konqueror to do it in a graphical way.	12:43
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Arwen	knakso, no, I still think it should work that way. Like apt, default ask, "-y" to override for scripts.	12:43
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yeniklasor	ok thanks	12:43
ActionParsnip	cje: you can use sudo rm -rf	12:43
Lunar_Lamp	yeniklasor, however, azureus is renowned for requiring many system resources, wheres rtorrent, a command line application, requires very very few :-)	12:43
BluesKaj	came from	12:43
zorglu_	BluesKaj: from torrent implementors	12:44
ActionParsnip	cje: it will go through all the folders from the top one you state and kill anything below	12:44
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Lunar_Lamp	BluesKaj, the torrent download speed may be the same, but the program themselves may be fast/slow. Additionally, different apps may implement slightly different torrenting methods.	12:44
zorglu_	BluesKaj: this is due to scheduling. and the various implementation in various client	12:44
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yeniklasor	Lunar_Lamp : Thank you	12:45
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Lunar_Lamp	yeniklasor, I used azureus and it was fine - but I prefer rtorrent as I'm comfortable on the command line and run it from my server.	12:45
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cje	ActionParsnip: hmm, so I could automate this process better I guess by just using kdesu konqueror to drag all the dirs into one of the target dirs, and then just del that one target dir !!	12:45
ActionParsnip	yeniklasor: if you are using KUbuntu, chances are you have ktorrent already installed	12:45
zorglu_	and ktorrent is a bugged implemetnation :)	12:46
Arwen	I like azureus, it's easier to use than rtorrent	12:46
zorglu_	not a real trouble, but funny still :)	12:46
Arwen	only, if uTorrent had a native linux version..	12:46
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BluesKaj	for example zorglu_, azureus is a definite memory hog but it's not any faster or slower in terms of download speeds than any other torrent app	12:46
ActionParsnip	cje: you can use rm -rf <dir1>; rm -rf <dir2>...	12:46
ActionParsnip	cje: use ;'s to seperate the commands	12:46
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Lunar_Lamp	Arwen, not off a server with 233MHz ARM processor and 32MB of ram ;-)	12:46
Arwen	haha	12:46
Lunar_Lamp	rtorrent flies on it though :-)	12:46
zorglu_	BluesKaj: well perform real test and you will see. im a bt implementor and believe me this is not true :)	12:46
Arwen	the ncurses based ones were always too cumbersome for me :-\\	12:47
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BluesKaj	sure	12:47
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cje	ActionParsnip: is there a way to automate the typing of those command chains so that I don't have to retype the command 20 times (I have 20 dirs to delete).	12:47
zorglu_	BluesKaj: i just talkabout download speed here. the memory used is clearly different :)	12:47
Arwen	zorglu_, clearly dl speed can be optimized somewhat, but the difference is near 0...	12:47
ActionParsnip	cje: copy and paste )	12:47
zorglu_	:)	12:47
BluesKaj	implementor..what may i ask does an implementor do ...a server?	12:47
zorglu_	Arwen: do meansure	12:47
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cje	ActionParsnip: k, thanks.	12:47
zorglu_	BluesKaj: it implements	12:48
Arwen	only real thing in clients that I see affecting dl time is endgame algorithms and peer banning algorithms	12:48
zorglu_	BluesKaj: i dunno the word you use	12:48
Arwen	zorglu_, meansure?	12:48
zorglu_	BluesKaj: coder/hacker etc..	12:48
zorglu_	Arwen: measure	12:48
BluesKaj	I have implements ... a mouse a KB a, hammer , screwdriver	12:48
Arwen	I do measure.... I max out my connection no matter what client	12:48
zorglu_	Arwen: then you are fine :)	12:49
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makuseru	how can i veiw .divix streams in firefox?	12:49
Arwen	makuseru, .divix or .divx?	12:49
ActionParsnip	makuseru: get mplayerplug-in	12:50
zorglu_	well my first laptop got feisty now ! :)	12:50
Arwen	and why the hell do you want to view video in a web browser? that's just asking for a memory leak	12:50
makuseru	i have mplayer	12:50
makuseru	it wont plau them	12:50
Arwen	makuseru, "apt-get install mozilla-mplayer"	12:50
makuseru	i have it	12:50
ActionParsnip	makuseru: get the plug in that links the 2	12:50
Arwen	then cry	12:50
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BluesKaj	i just tweak whatever client I'm using and go from there ... I like ktorrents options and easy setup and stability ...so far anyway :)	12:50
makuseru	Arwen: what is your problem	12:50
Arwen	ActionParsnip, he seems to have it. Apparently the server isn't reporting the mimetype as one of the ones mplayer supports	12:50
coreymon77	can someone explain this to me	12:51
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cje	ActionParsnip: btw, the video that I am talking about is for the Digital Tipping Point film. It's a community-built documentary film that aims to be a fun, entertaining film for Windows newbies to try to persuade Windows newbies to try FOSS. We interviewed the Mayor of Munich, the Culture Minister of Brazil, and other cool people.	12:51
Arwen	makuseru, I don't have a problem. I'm only telling you that it's not gonna happen.	12:51
coreymon77	a whole season of a podcast show is 781 mb of size	12:51
ActionParsnip	cje: sounds funky :D	12:51
ActionParsnip	cje: whats FOSS?	12:51
zorglu_	cje: url ?	12:51
cje	ActionParsnip: we are giving away our footage for free under a cc by-SA license here: http://archive.org/details/digitaltippingpoint	12:51
Arwen	cje, if it's in Theora I won't be watching it...	12:51
Arwen	!foss \| ActionParsnip	12:51
ubotu	ActionParsnip: freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing	12:51
makuseru	Arwen: no, you said nothing of the sort. all you did was criticize me for wanting to play somthing in FF then told me to go cry	12:51
coreymon77	but when trying to burn them as an audio cd on k3b, its telling me that only one episode of it can fit on a cdr at a time	12:52
coreymon77	why is that?	12:52
Arwen	yes, because watching video in a web browser is stupid	12:52
coreymon77	it makes no sense	12:52
Arwen	and two, because you can't do it in this case, I told you to go cry	12:52
Arwen	now stop being confrontational	12:52
cje	Arwen: it is in mp3 and .ogg	12:52
zorglu_	!language \| Arwen	12:52
ubotu	Arwen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.	12:52
Arwen	zorglu_, ...I haven't swore at all	12:52
Arwen	cje, ogg doesn't tell me anything	12:53
Schuenemann	what is the name of that encoder which name is something like "**** ain't an encoder" ?	12:53
Arwen	is it in theora?	12:53
Arwen	Schuenemann, LAME	12:53
Schuenemann	thanks	12:53
Arwen	LAME Ain't a MP3 Encoder	12:53
zorglu_	makuseru: dontworry and come back tomorrow, another population	12:53
zorglu_	ok im off now :)	12:53
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Arwen	cje, what is the video encoded in?	12:53
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cje	Arwen: Sorry, you asked if it is in Theora, and so I used .ogg as a substitute for Theora, sorry.	12:53
Arwen	screw that then, I don't watch crappy videos	12:54
cje	Arwen: it is encoded in .mpg and Theora.	12:54
Arwen	....	12:54
Arwen	you can't have a video be both MPEG and Theora	12:54
cje	Arwen: it will be available both on YouTube and archive.org	12:54
ActionParsnip	info theora	12:54
Arwen	ActionParsnip, that's !theora	12:54
ActionParsnip	!info theora	12:54
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ubotu	Package theora does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas	12:54
Arwen	!info only searches for packages	12:55
ubotu	Package only does not exist in feisty	12:55
ActionParsnip	theora	12:55
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cje	Arwen: yes, you can have something both in .mpg and in Theora. You just have duplicates of the same file in two formats.	12:55
ActionParsnip	!!dumb bots	12:55
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about dumb bots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:55
Arwen	cje, meh, if it's not XviD or H.264, I'm not watching it	12:55
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Arwen	I don't watch crappy video, see...	12:55
cje	Arwen: our footage is duplicated in both .mpg and Theora	12:56
ActionParsnip	Arwen: so you dont visit youtube?	12:56
Schuenemann	how about rmvb?	12:56
Arwen	exactly... neither of which is XviD or H.264	12:56
cje	Arwen: h.264 is what YouTube uses	12:56
Arwen	ActionParsnip, hell no, the audio and video quality there makes my eyes bleed	12:56
cje	Arwen: and we will be on YouTube too	12:56
Arwen	cje, no... they use H.263	12:56
cje	?	12:56
Arwen	that's the inferior low-quality codec from 10 years ago	12:56
Arwen	en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.263	12:57
Schuenemann	but the purpose of youtube isn't high quality videos	12:57
Schuenemann	as small as possible	12:57
cje	right.	12:57
Arwen	Schuenemann, but my point was that I don't watch low quality videos	12:57
ActionParsnip	Arwen: 264 - 263 = 1. Whats so terrible about it if the number is only minutely bigger	12:57
Arwen	ActionParsnip, .....	12:57
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cje	Schuemann: right now, YouTube is mostly about low res. But it is going to get better.	12:57
Arwen	v 6.06 of Ubuntu is only 1 version greater than 5.04 of Ubuntu, what's the diff?	12:57
Schuenemann	hmm	12:57
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Schuenemann	cje, use autocomplete... it's easier :-)	12:58
Arwen	my point is that they're completely different	12:58
Schuenemann	nick completion	12:58
cje	Schuenemann: YouTube will get better and better	12:58
Arwen	anyway, we're way off topic	12:58
ActionParsnip	Arwen: so what is the difference?	12:58
cje	Schuenemann: cool. Heh, I didn't know xchat had autocomplete.	12:58
Schuenemann	cje, I noticed it's now internationalized	12:58
Arwen	ActionParsnip, H.264 is incredibly high quality. H.263 is incredibly low quality.	12:58
ardchoille	Arwen: 6.06 is two versions ahead of 5.04.. you're forgetting 5.10	12:58
Lunar_Lamp	[23:57:09] <Arwen> v 6.06 of Ubuntu is only 1 version greater than 5.04 of Ubuntu, what's the diff? <== I think there was a 5.10	12:58
Arwen	ardchoille, oh yeah	12:58
cje	Schuenemann: yep, internationalized.	12:58
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ardchoille	6.06 is the LTS release (Long Term Support), 3 years support on the desktop, 5 years support on the server.	12:59
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mc__	how to open a beer bottle without a bottle opener?	01:07
Arwen	mc__, by smashing it over someone's head :-)	01:07
mc__	hm	01:07
mc__	Arwen: that doesnt sound like a good idea	01:08
Arwen	hah	01:08
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BluesKaj	twistcaps here in Canada..non violent society until at least 6beers	01:10
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frido	hello	01:11
frido	i try this	01:11
frido	see u	01:11
Arwen	!fail	01:11
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about fail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:11
Arwen	lol	01:11
BluesKaj	!beer	01:11
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:11
Arwen	!hate	01:11
ubotu	hate is a thing we don't encourage - why waste your energy	01:11
BluesKaj	some bot that is	01:12
BluesKaj	trying to rstore cpu frq scaling ...found the the right tutorial to do it for one session , but upon reboot it's defeated again. I know there's an edit but where ?	01:13
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cje	ActionParsnip: thanks for your help! I am going to reboot now. Thanks to everyone else here who helped, too!	01:14
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BluesKaj	!cpufreq-info	01:15
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about cpufreq-info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:15
BluesKaj	!info-cpufreq	01:15
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about info-cpufreq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:15
BluesKaj	!useless	01:16
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about useless - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:16
mc__	!god	01:17
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about god - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:17
mc__	!love	01:17
ubotu	Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.	01:17
Schuenemann	!abuse	01:17
ubotu	The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines	01:17
Arwen	!botabuse	01:17
ubotu	Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...	01:17
Schuenemann	thanks	01:18
BluesKaj	not much snow on the tundra...most ppl don't realize that :)	01:18
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Schuenemann	BluesKaj, they want people speaking french to imigrate to quebec	01:18
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Arwen	!serial	01:21
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about serial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:21
Arwen	!crack	01:21
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about crack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:21
Arwen	!warez	01:21
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about warez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:21
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Arwen	lol	01:21
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Schuenemann	Arwen, perhaps you'd like to move back to windows?	01:21
Arwen	:-)	01:21
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Schuenemann	I'm sorry to hear that	01:22
Arwen	lol	01:22
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karthikp_	Kaffeine?	01:23
Arwen	lol @ Kaffeine	01:23
Arwen	that's even worse than VLC at subtitles..	01:23
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Schuenemann	what's wrong with kaffeine's subtitles?	01:23
Arwen	it doesn't support em? lol	01:24
Schuenemann	how come? I've watched films with subtitles	01:24
Arwen	(and by subtitles, I mean the only type that matter. SSA/ASS subtitles.)	01:24
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karthikp_	You mean srt files?	01:24
ardchoille	Arwen: mplayer? xine? I've never seen a case where those didn't render subtitles.	01:24
Arwen	no, not SRT	01:24
Arwen	SSA/ASSS	01:24
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Arwen	en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substation_Alpha	01:24
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Arwen	ardchoille, mplayer has ok support, but it's nowhere near as complete as the reference one	01:25
karthikp_	It won't work with wine?	01:25
Arwen	hell no.	01:25
Arwen	you ever tried to use a media player in wine? lol	01:25
ardchoille	Xine even supports closed captions, mplayer and vlc don't.	01:26
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karthikp_	Can't say I have	01:26
Arwen	ardchoille, doesn't matter. If it doesn't have SSA support, it doesn't support em as far as I care	01:26
Arwen	yeah, painful since most of em depend on DirectX	01:26
Arwen	and other MS-related code	01:26
Schuenemann	you're too radical	01:28
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Arwen	uh, no, support for SSA isn't too much to ask...	01:28
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Arwen	especially since every file I have uses em...	01:28
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Schuenemann	is there a bug with KDE? I have all windows minimized and it I start a GUI program, one windows is automatically restored	01:29
Schuenemann	that's been happening since dapper	01:29
Schuenemann	if I start*	01:29
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karthikp_	Haven't seen it.	01:30
BluesKaj	Schuenemann, Quebec is already French enough :)	01:30
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Schuenemann	BluesKaj, it's the easiest province to imigrate, right	01:30
Schuenemann	?	01:30
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darkrift	question..... i think im having memory issues and when i have only 2 things open, I still see things ive closed sitting in the process list (firefox, konq, and lots of others)	01:31
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darkrift	feels like im running windows mobile with its smart minimize turned on :S	01:32
BluesKaj	Schuenemann, yes if you are fluent in french and have a vocation , like a trade, profession or recognized technical expertise	01:33
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Schuenemann	BluesKaj, but do other provinces offer those opportunities to foreigns?	01:34
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BluesKaj	In business the secret is to have a working knowledge of english	01:34
BluesKaj	yes Schuenemann , immigration is a federal jurisdiction in the rest of Canada	01:35
Schuenemann	hmm	01:36
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Schuenemann	I have a bit of english, but french... :)	01:36
BluesKaj	Quebec has "special circumstances" under the Canadian immigration laws	01:36
BluesKaj	well, that's ok ...one doesn't need french to emigrate to Canada...it's not true that one needs french	01:38
Schuenemann	how come? I just took the test (english advanced, french beginner) and was rejected. With french advanced, even with few professional experience I was "approved" =)	01:39
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BluesKaj	manty euro countries have the wrong impression because the immigration dept is full of francophomes due to the silly bilingual requirements here ...being a bilingual civil servant here (a gov't requirement) is basically being a frenchspeaker who can just barely get by in english	01:40
Schuenemann	"here" means quebec or provinces in general?	01:41
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BluesKaj	yes Schuenemann , there is definite discrimination and bias in favour of francophones	01:42
Schuenemann	by the way, I'm not in an euro country :-)	01:42
BluesKaj	all of canada	01:42
BluesKaj	where are you ?	01:42
Schuenemann	brazil	01:42
Schuenemann	I supposed that makes it harder	01:42
BluesKaj	not sure	01:42
BluesKaj	I would apply to settle in one of the western provinces instead of Quebec or Ontario	01:43
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Schuenemann	I've heard quebec was easier	01:44
Schuenemann	a LOT easier	01:44
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coreymon77	BluesKaj: what in the world, ontario is not french speaking	01:46
coreymon77	BluesKaj: sure we have to take french until grade 9, but other than that, ontario is almost entirely english speaking	01:47
Schuenemann	I have a football game to watch, thank you	01:47
randoman	anyone know what to do if dpkg --configure -a , wont erase third party modules. in Monitor & Display?	01:47
Schuenemann	perhaps you could tell me more someday :-)	01:47
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BluesKaj	coreymon77, I din't say ontrio was french speaking ..I'm talking about his chances to emigrate are better if he applies to settle out west .	01:48
BluesKaj	ontario	01:48
BluesKaj	I'm sure you understand my implication there	01:49
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BluesKaj	coreymon77, i live in Northeastern Ontario and the population in my small town is 40% french ancestry	01:50
coreymon77	BluesKaj: thats still not majority	01:52
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BluesKaj	din't say it was	01:52
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BluesKaj	but if you have a french family name in this town and you run for mayor , you're guaranteed to to be elected :)	01:53
cWolfe	offtopic	01:54
BluesKaj	hehe ...took a while	01:54
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szakulec	hi all, what's the easiest way to get powertop running	01:55
BluesKaj	Gents , I'm trying to restore cpu freq scaling ...found the the right tutorial to do it for one session , but upon reboot it's defeated again. I know there's an edit but where ?	01:55
BluesKaj	!powertop	01:57
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about powertop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:57
BluesKaj	!top	01:57
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about top - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:57
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BluesKaj	is the ubotu on strike today ?	01:58
Arwen	!on strike	01:58
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about on strike - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:58
Arwen	nope	01:58
BluesKaj	did he answer / , nope	01:59
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BluesKaj	I know there's gotta be a way to edit the /etc/init.d/cpufreqd file, but i wish i knew what to look for :(	02:00
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fenrig	!wine	02:07
ubotu	wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.	02:08
Arwen	!vodka	02:08
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about vodka - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:08
fenrig	arwen: look to what ubotu has to say ;)	02:08
Arwen	hmm?	02:08
devnull	its a sign from God.	02:09
devnull	It means you shouldn't drink vodka anymore.	02:09
fenrig	devnull: no such thing exist	02:09
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fenrig	devnull: why would god ever warn us of drinking vodka, he makes money of it	02:10
devnull	fenrig: ...	02:10
devnull	Kinda insulting.	02:10
devnull	As I am Christian.	02:10
Arwen	what is this god? I am without the knowledge or even the concept of this "god" you speak of.	02:11
fenrig	devnull: so ... I'm too a christian	02:11
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devnull	fenrig: so you say things like "God makes money off vodka?"...	02:11
fenrig	arwen: there is no god we speak of	02:11
devnull	And you call yourself a Christian and not believe in God...?	02:12
fenrig	arwen: he doesn't exist, he exist in our minds (cancer)	02:12
Arwen	fenrig, indeed	02:12
fenrig	god=mind cancer	02:12
Arwen	NO RELIGIOUS WARS, THANKS	02:12
mc__	omfg	02:12
mc__	a real religious war	02:12
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fenrig	oh no where are the terrorists?	02:13
mc__	i thougt it was some debian vs red hat like thing	02:13
Arwen	No fortunes found	02:13
fenrig	debian rulez	02:13
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Arwen	,,	02:13
Arwen	"I hope you don't like my posts...that is the intent!"	02:13
Arwen	[Brother Orchid, demonstrating how to be christian]	02:13
fenrig	red hat rulez a little bit less	02:13
Arwen	fortune -o rules :-)	02:13
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fenrig	arwen: fortune -o	02:14
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fenrig	arwen: please explain	02:14
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Arwen	!info fortunes-off	02:14
ubotu	fortunes-off: Data files containing offensive fortune cookies. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.99.1-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 760 kB, installed size 2028 kB	02:14
Arwen	one of the essentials	02:14
fenrig	arwen: oh, why did i bother	02:14
Arwen	hmm?	02:15
jussi01	!offtopic \| Arwen fenrig	02:15
ubotu	Arwen fenrig: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	02:15
Arwen	...	02:15
fenrig	ARWEN: join me on that offtopic thing	02:15
fenrig	arwen: could be funny	02:15
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angasule_	!pyqt4	02:17
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about pyqt4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:17
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angasule	!pyqt	02:17
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ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about pyqt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:17
angasule	!bugs	02:17
ubotu	If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots	02:17
jussi01	!botabuse	02:19
ubotu	Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...	02:19
purpleposeidon	How do I disable ssh logins on an acount?	02:20
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toast	maybe someone here can help	02:28
fenrig	!mastrubation	02:28
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about mastrubation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:28
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toast	Anyone familiar with oracle... irc bot?	02:28
fenrig	well ubotu isn't really a smart bot	02:29
toast	right.	02:29
toast	haha.	02:29
purpleposeidon	toast: try the Internet Oracle.	02:29
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Arwen	...	02:30
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fenrig	arwen: u don't really get the joke do u	02:30
toast	hmm.. what's that?.. got an issue with internet explorer... well.. really, the fact that firefox has about 50 tabs to open up and.. ahhh.. I'm trying to avoid doing that right now. Plus, IE, as you are aware... really fucking bites.	02:30
Arwen	toast, what does FF having 50 tabs open have to do with IE?	02:31
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Arwen	and how do you have an IE issue on Kubuntu?	02:31
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fenrig	arwen: ie4linux	02:31
toast	I haven't migrated yet... that's all.	02:31
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intelikey	howto dl 64bit packages on a 32bit system (dapper) ? i have a list but it would take forever and a day to use http://packages.ubuntu.org to get them all takes # minutes just to find one... ???	02:31
toast	and my initial question has to do with the IRC bot Oracle.	02:31
Arwen	hmm	02:31
fenrig	toast: is oracle any smarter?	02:32
raymond	what is a good linux antivirus scanner? I need to scan some windows drives and figured the safest bet would be to do it from somewhere that wont hose my windows system	02:32
jussi01	clamav	02:32
fenrig	raymon: avast	02:32
peanutb	raymond, claimav?	02:32
toast	The server crashed and now my channel is invite only... I can't remember how to msg oracle so I can !clearmodes. That's why I'm talking in here to begin with.	02:32
Arwen	clam is probably the only choice	02:32
jussi01	!antivirus	02:32
ubotu	antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus	02:32
Arwen	but it doesn't have very high detection rates	02:32
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toast	Thank you for the help, fenrig. It's much appreciated.	02:33
toast	:i	02:33
intelikey	!linuxvirus	02:33
ubotu	The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21	02:33
slop	how do i switch it so my sound comes out of my onboard sound card instead of my PCI card?	02:33
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fenrig	toast: ?	02:33
toast	in the BIOS, slop	02:33
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peanutb	raymond, panda AV also offers a linux product i think	02:33
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slop	toast: thx!	02:33
raymond	i tried getting ClamAV but adept keeps saying it couldnt commit changes becuase it would break something	02:33
fenrig	raymond: do this	02:34
fenrig	raymond: sudo apt-get install ClamAV	02:34
toast	the comment about oracle being any smarter than??? who or what, fenrig? Maybe it only came across as being condescending but really was a compliment. I don't know.	02:34
raymond	couldnt find package	02:35
fenrig	raymond post this output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/	02:35
fenrig	raymond wait i will check this for u	02:35
raymond	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27351/	02:36
fenrig	raymond:sudo apt-get install clamav	02:37
fenrig	raymond post the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27351/	02:37
Arwen	damn it, anti-aliased fonts don't work with CRTs	02:37
fenrig	arwen: ask santa for another new screen	02:37
Arwen	lol, CRTs rule, they just don't have subpixels	02:38
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dan	hello?	02:38
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Arwen	dan, bye?	02:38
dan	hello?	02:38
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dan	bye?	02:38
fenrig	raymond?	02:39
raymond	yes	02:39
fenrig	sudo apt-get install clamav	02:39
fenrig	do this	02:39
raymond	ah no caps	02:39
fenrig	sorry	02:39
raymond	errored out	02:40
fenrig	post the output on paste.ubuntu.nl.org	02:40
raymond	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27352/	02:40
jhutchins_lt	raymond: We _try_ to get all the package names forced to no caps, but a few still squeek by, especially if you go to unofficial repositories.	02:41
jhutchins_lt	raymond: Ah, there we go, script error: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1	02:42
fenrig	raymond: do u have msn?	02:42
raymond	yeah	02:42
jhutchins_lt	raymond: try sudo dpkg --configure clamav-base	02:42
fenrig	wanna do this on msn?	02:42
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raymond	sure let me log in there. evil_h@hotmail.com	02:43
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drkfce	Hey all. Anyone familiar with minicom?	02:46
fenrig	drkfce: nope, tell	02:48
drkfce	Well, it's basically the linux version of hyperterminal or SecureCRT	02:49
drkfce	but my question may not be specific to minicom	02:50
intelikey	anybody saavy ? howto dl 64bit packages on a 32bit system (dapper) ? i have a list but it would take forever and a day to use http://packages.ubuntu.org to get them all takes # minutes just to find just one, because it's all split up into sections... ???	02:50
drkfce	I want to make a macro in the program, and it allows me to enter text for a specific button	02:50
drkfce	I want to know if there is a switch is equivalent to the return key	02:51
drkfce	like "show run \r"	02:51
intelikey	;	02:51
fenrig	i think this depends on the macro language	02:51
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drkfce	Hehe, too bad I can't test it now, the switch is at work	02:51
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intelikey	hehhe http://www.cs.umsl.edu/~sanjiv/sys_sec/security/thompson/hack.html	02:54
intelikey	so nobody knows an answer to my Q ?	02:54
intelikey	nobody anybody somebody ???	02:56
drkfce	nope, linux newbie myself :(	02:56
intelikey	well "bother says poo".	02:56
darkrift	lol	02:56
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darkrift	write a script	02:56
darkrift	make the list into a text file and make the script read and dl each line	02:57
darkrift	i could do it for mirc :)	02:57
intelikey	darkrift i need the address and it's not just one some will be in universe some in main.....	02:57
darkrift	thats the only language i know	02:57
darkrift	oh, i c	02:57
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intelikey	i was wondering if anyone had already trod this path...	02:57
darkrift	mirror it	02:58
darkrift	i know there is a link on there to mirror it to disc or something	02:58
intelikey	on dialup ?	02:58
darkrift	oh	02:58
darkrift	ouch :S	02:58
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intelikey	shame i'm just out of reach ?	02:58
dan	df	02:59
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intelikey	this cotten picken' tosheba laptop with it's built in propritary everything. vidio don't work in 32bit mode and the modem (winmodem) doesn't work at all... and i don't have enough hardware to build a local network this week.	03:00
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ubuntu__	kubutu stop working need help	03:01
ubuntu__	I'm using live cd now	03:01
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intelikey	ubuntu_ did it get fired, go on strick, or just quit ? :)	03:01
ubuntu__	?	03:02
intelikey	ubuntu_ i mean unless you can be more specific we can't help.	03:02
ubuntu__	sorry	03:02
ubuntu__	I started me pc today and it goes on to the boot screen the to a black screen	03:03
ubuntu__	I mean then toa black screen	03:03
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intelikey	ok. and a little info on the hardware and os version please	03:03
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william_	kjk	03:05
ubuntu__	Got KUBUNTU 3.5.6	03:05
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intelikey	ubuntu__ maybe you are busy... but let me specify anyway. is it feisty ubuntu or some other flavour ? and are you using ati, nvidia, intel, or some other graphics maybe you could also tell us if it's 32 or 64 bit cpu, and it might even be helpful to know if you have been installing/configuring/or removing anything lately	03:08
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wolferine	thats a long breath there intel :)	03:09
ubuntu__	yes feistry, nvidia 7900gt, intel coreduo 64 bit cpu	03:09
intelikey	wolferine you should see when i get warmed up...	03:09
wolferine	hehe	03:09
fenrig	ubuntu_: almost sounds like u stole my pc :D	03:09
wolferine	feistry?	03:10
fenrig	typo	03:10
intelikey	ubuntu__ ok and installed anything lately ? "specificly dealing with the kernel or vidio drivers" ?	03:10
fenrig	dont whine	03:10
ubuntu__	I was working on getting my xternal drive to work. I was following ubuntus how to install it manual. Which I did and it work but I turn pc on today it the problem started	03:11
ubuntu__	fenrig- don't leave the window open next time	03:12
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fenrig	ubuntu_: i always forget that part ;)	03:14
ubuntu__	lol	03:14
intelikey	ubuntu__ need you to reboot the box and when the grub menu comes up (or press [esc] to get to it before grub starts to load anything) select the safemode line and press E then select the kernel line and press E add 'no' to the word splash, making it "nosplash" and add vga=0x0f05 to the end of the line. press [enter] press B then watch the text scroll by until it stops or the last line thats visiable... whic	03:14
fenrig	or	03:15
fenrig	when your box reboots	03:15
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fenrig	and when the grub menu comes up	03:15
intelikey	!enter	03:15
ubotu	Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	03:15
fenrig	choose ubuntu blablabla (recovery)	03:15
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ubuntu__	new guy what is grub?	03:16
fenrig	intelikey: my name is fenrig and I'm a addict	03:16
intelikey	the boot loader that lets you select the os you want to start	03:16
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fenrig	ubuntu_: what that other guy said	03:16
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fenrig	ubuntu_: you maybe have to press esc	03:16
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fenrig	ubuntu_: grub appears somewhere before the "kubuntu" splash with the loadbar	03:17
ubuntu__	ok i;l try	03:17
fenrig	;)	03:18
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fenrig	intelikey: the I/O proces	03:19
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randoman	anyone know why xinerama would disable direct rendering?	03:20
fenrig	check your drivers	03:21
randoman	they were fine	03:22
randoman	im using the opensource ones	03:22
fenrig	the video card?	03:22
fenrig	ati or nvidia?	03:22
randoman	radeon 9800	03:22
randoman	ati	03:22
fenrig	can be a problem	03:22
randoman	oh i know	03:22
randoman	its a bunch of fun	03:22
randoman	P	03:22
randoman	:P	03:22
fenrig	because ati drivers aren'( really supported	03:22
randoman	mergedfb works	03:22
randoman	but when I identify the monitors it identifys both on 1 monitor	03:23
fenrig	well i don't have any expierence with ati	03:23
fenrig	so i cant help	03:23
randoman	well thanks	03:23
fenrig	randoman: a little tip try xinerama with the terminal	03:23
randoman	whats that	03:24
fenrig	maybe there is some error info in the terminal	03:24
randoman	oh ok	03:24
randoman	gotch ya	03:24
Sayers	Does gusty work well enough to be usable?	03:24
fenrig	randoman: if u dont understand this then say	03:24
randoman	i do	03:24
fenrig	sayers: yeah only the packages can be a pain in the ass	03:24
fenrig	randoman: okay :D	03:25
Sayers	why fenrig?	03:25
fenrig	sayers: gutsy is still alpha	03:25
fenrig	sayers: very experimental	03:25
Sayers	:(	03:25
Sayers	does it not have apt-get?	03:25
randoman	Xinerama isnt found	03:25
fenrig	sayers: but still 100% compatibel with feisty	03:25
fenrig	randoman: ill search the command for u	03:26
Sayers	dpkg	03:26
fenrig	sayers: thats not it	03:26
Sayers	okay	03:26
Sayers	I want to use KDE4	03:26
fenrig	sayers: i mean that some software packages are experimental	03:26
fenrig	sayers: try qemu and download the suse kde4 live snapshot cd	03:27
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fenrig	sayers: kde4 is also a pain in the ass really really experimental	03:27
Ender	How is everyone tonight?	03:27
Sayers	fenrig: so not even worth it?	03:28
randoman	i found this	03:29
randoman	(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable	03:29
randoman	int he Xorg.0.log	03:29
randoman	same with (EE) AIGLX: Screen 1 is not DRI capable	03:29
Ender	My wife just finally switched to Linux for the first time yesterday. I use Gentoo and I thought I was fairly knowledable, but we've had some bumps our first night using Kubuntu on her laptop and I was hoping you guys might be able to help us out.	03:29
Sayers	What are the bumps	03:30
fenrig	ender: please tell	03:30
randoman	and (WW) RADEON(1): Direct rendering disabled	03:30
randoman	humm	03:30
fenrig	randoman: driver problem	03:30
randoman	yeah	03:30
randoman	i may have to venture to fglrx ewww and Xgl	03:30
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fenrig	randoman: wait on the official 7.10 gutsy release i happend to read something about (k)ubuntu fixing this for the 7.10 release	03:31
randoman	but im goign to try some these option	03:31
randoman	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#head-4353128024338b05ba40d5e5c837ff7b65f55b78	03:31
randoman	nice	03:31
fenrig	randoman: its not anymore in my hands, but in gods	03:31
randoman	lol	03:31
Ender	First off, the keyboard and touchpad are both acting a bit weird. I may file a bug report on it. The touchpad is often unresponsive (using xorg-synaptic driver) and either a key will repeat very quickly, or at times, like if I hold down backspace I want it to repeat but it wont	03:31
randoman	ill figure something out	03:31
randoman	or ill have to live with mergedfb	03:31
randoman	for now	03:31
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randoman	thanks man	03:32
fenrig	randoman: no problem	03:32
Ender	Secondly, I installed the sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jre and yet java isn't working in Firefox. My wife got an invite to try out Puzzle Pirates, and would like to get the site working.	03:32
randoman	i just want my compiz fusion back :P	03:32
fenrig	ender: for the second problem	03:33
Sayers	Ender: you need the plugin	03:33
Ender	Thirdly, this isn't huge, but the binary ATI driver isn't working. She has a Radeon X300 in her laptop. I apt-get installed fglrx-control and ran ati-config which was fine, but I'm getting the Mesa error with fglrxinfo. And the "mesa fix" didn't work	03:34
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Sayers	Did you follow the wiki for installing ATI drivers Ender?	03:34
Ender	Puzzle Pirates directed us to the Sun Java download page, which gave us a .rpm.bin file which won't install with rpm.	03:34
Ender	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI	03:34
ubuntu_	i'm back	03:34
Sayers	Ender: apt-cache search Java Plugin	03:35
Sayers	!java	03:35
ubotu	To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.	03:35
fenrig	open up the terminal and type:sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin	03:35
Ender	We're running Feisty	03:35
Ender	Cool, that sounds easy, thanks!	03:35
fenrig	ender: cant help with the first problem tough	03:36
Sayers	fenrig: Didn't know the package name :P	03:36
obvio171	"sudo gem install <gem>" isn't putting the gems in PATH. does anyone know if that's something with the Ubuntu gem package or with gem itself?	03:36
fenrig	sayers: i had too search too :D	03:36
Ender	Lastly, and this may be a Windows issue, but I've got a temporary Win2k box up. I just replaced all the hardware in my desktop and on the weekend I intend to reinstall a fresh dual-boot of Winx64 and Gentoo. Until then, we've got this Win2k box...	03:37
Ender	...which our printer is hooked to. I installed Samba on my wife's Kubuntu laptop, and I can see the file/drive shares on this box, but not the printer.	03:37
ubuntu_	I still can get kubuntu to start properly	03:38
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randoman	ok	03:38
randoman	well i totally figured it out	03:38
randoman	i have to use mergedfb	03:38
randoman	Direct Rendering Disabled -- Dual-head configuration is not working with DRI at present.	03:38
randoman	Please use the radeon MergedFB option if you want Dual-head with DRI.	03:38
randoman	that was in the Xorg.0.log	03:38
fenrig	randoman: much luck	03:38
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randoman	yeah i have to use mergedfb with dual head	03:38
randoman	and direct rendering	03:39
randoman	according to the log	03:39
fenrig	Ender: open up the terminal and type kcontrol and try to configure your printer there put make sure its on	03:39
fenrig	ender: and try a lot of options	03:39
ubuntu_	kubutu will not start properly. It goes to the black screen	03:40
ubuntu_	help pls	03:40
fenrig	ubuntu_: wiht what error?	03:40
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ubuntu_	How do I find error?	03:40
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fenrig	well	03:40
Ender	Thanks everyone! I have to run off to work. At least we got Java fixed for now, and we'll work on the rest tomorrow!	03:41
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fenrig	when grub starts (just before the kubuntu splash with the loadbar)	03:41
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ubuntu_	It just goes to the kubutu screen then to another kubutu screen then black scren	03:41
fenrig	choose ubuntu kernel ... (recovery ...)	03:41
Ender	Yeah... should I change the kernel load option?	03:41
ubuntu_	how do you do this?	03:42
fenrig	ender: no i mean settings	03:42
fenrig	ubuntu_: wait	03:42
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Ender	I think I know what you mean.	03:42
fenrig	ender: linux printer support is bad	03:43
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fenrig	ubuntu_: okay this is what I want u to do	03:43
fenrig	ubuntu_: do u have a nfts drive, or a dualboot with windows, linux, mac osx, bsd, ... etc?	03:44
Ender	I'm thinking of upgrading the kernel as soon as 2.6.22-rc6-mm1 comes out. I'm a fan of the new CFS.	03:44
ubuntu_	dualboot with xp	03:44
fenrig	ender: what are the new features of that new kernel?	03:45
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fenrig	ubuntu_: so u get like this menu when it asks if u want to boot ubuntu or windows	03:45
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ubuntu_	yes	03:45
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Ender	Updated drivers, the CFS scheduler, rewritten block code...	03:46
ubuntu_	ubuntu then ubuto safe mode then xp	03:46
Ender	I have to head out for work though! Thanks everyone!	03:46
fenrig	ubuntu_: somewhere there there is this entry called: ubuntu kernel <version of your kernel> recovery	03:46
fenrig	or something like that	03:46
fenrig	it has to do with ubuntu and recovery in one sentence	03:47
ubuntu_	yes when i select E	03:47
fenrig	no forget E	03:47
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fenrig	u have to be able to chose it not edit it	03:48
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ubuntu_	ok	03:48
ubuntu_	what next	03:48
fenrig	ubuntu_: http://ca.geocities.com/zachandloricox%40rogers.com/ubuntu/IMG_0345.JPG	03:50
fenrig	the second entry	03:50
fenrig	ubuntu, kernel <version> (recovery mode)	03:50
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jriachi	is there something like head and tail, but called middle of something , to get x lines starting from line y?	03:50
fenrig	choose that option/entry and closely read all the text u get to see try to figure out what the error is	03:51
fenrig	got it?	03:51
ubuntu_	cool I need to learn how to do that	03:51
ubuntu_	Ok I'll be back cause i'm running live	03:52
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Agent_bob	ooops.	03:54
fenrig	?	03:55
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Fable	i have a problem here. whenever i start azureus it pops up for a sec but disappears. maybe iammissing some files. please help	03:57
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cescalante	Fable: what distro?	03:57
Fable	kubutu	03:57
Fable	kubuntu	03:57
cescalante	Feisty? Dapper?	03:58
Fable	feisty	03:58
cescalante	see I was the opposite	03:58
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Fable	well i do have something else	03:58
fenrig	fable: does azureus still run after the pop up	03:58
cescalante	I couldn't get it to run on Dapper	03:58
emiliano75	good night my friends	03:58
cescalante	night	03:58
Agent_bob	root root, more than root; i am init, i can do anything... </hums_la_la_la,la,la_la>	03:58
underdog5004	wow...	03:59
emiliano75	i have a problem with vlc......	03:59
peanutb	Agent_bob, how do you become init?	03:59
emiliano75	when i try to open a flv file don't happen nothing	03:59
cescalante	hey I've got a question, 2.2 GHz AMD, 512 MB Ram, on board video, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, or Ubuntu?	03:59
kristi	I have a problem with k3b... trying to burn a video DVD gives an error saying that not all the necessary video files are on the disc. Am I missing something?	04:00
coreymon77	Agent_bob: cant root do anything?	04:00
Agent_bob	peanutb you have to start at the beginning, when the world began...	04:00
fenrig	emiliano: check internet connection, and the flv file	04:00
Agent_bob	peanutb something like kernel line + init=/bin/bash	04:00
Fable	i downloaded azureus3.jar and replaced the 2.5 however i encountered some problems with kdesu kate /usr...to have it in the kmenu. the result was i deleted all files that had azureus and left the ones in the usr/local...then after that i reinstalled azureus2 from adept and thats the one that starts lingers for one second then disappears	04:01
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Agent_bob	coreymon77 can root kill init ?	04:01
emiliano75	i donwload the flv file in my pc.... the gui for vlc is open but i don't see nothing	04:01
fenrig	purge the azureaus package in adept	04:01
coreymon77	Agent_bob: wouldnt that be pretty much killing your entire system?	04:01
Fable	i did	04:01
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Fable	no go	04:01
ubuntu_	I'm back	04:02
Fable	fenrig: sorry i already did	04:02
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fenrig	fable: delete the .azureus folder in your home folder (/home/fable/)	04:02
Agent_bob	coreymon77 yep. and kernel would panic. but root can't do that. init however can.	04:02
ubuntu_	fenrig- Did what you told me and I only saw one error	04:02
Fable	ok	04:02
Fable	i'll try tht	04:03
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crxyem	is this the correct place to ask about upgrading from 6.10 to 7.04 ??	04:03
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crxyem	or is there a better suited channel for those Q?	04:03
icecruncher	!upgrade \| crxyem	04:03
ubotu	crxyem: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)	04:03
Agent_bob	ubuntu_ what was it ?	04:03
ubuntu_	error is mounting local file system	04:03
crxyem	ty for the direction	04:03
Fable	fenrig: its done	04:04
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Fable	now i should just go to adept and reinstall	04:04
ubuntu_	mount: special device /dev/sdb1 ,sbd2. and sdb3	04:04
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kristi	I'm trying to burn an .MPEG video to DVD with k3b, but it gives an error saying that not all the necessary video files are included... and that the size of the resulting image file could not be determined. What am I missing?	04:04
fenrig	fable: okay	04:04
tarnold	hey all	04:05
Agent_bob	ubuntu_ ok sounds like an /etc/fstab issue maybe. that's "removable" media ?	04:05
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Agent_bob	ubuntu_ USB ?	04:05
fenrig	ubuntu_: wait a min	04:05
tarnold	how can i delete some of the defualt services, such as rythmbox and totem without breaking the ubuntu desktop? I just don't want those apps	04:05
ubuntu_	Yes that what I had stated before I followed ubutu how to install it manual	04:06
Agent_bob	ubuntu_ maybe using the "UUID=" for those fs's would help you?	04:06
level1	can you get an up-to-date open source java (like the one from sun) in the ubuntu repos by now?	04:06
ubuntu_	I do recall some command to remove or uninstall something	04:06
Fable	fenrig: there are 2 versions of azureus here, the regular and azureus-gcj whats the difference	04:07
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kristi	I'm trying to burn an .MPEG video to DVD with k3b, but it gives an error saying that not all the necessary video files are included... and that the size of the resulting image file could not be determined. What am I missing?	04:07
ubuntu_	How is that file related to the main drive?	04:08
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Agent_bob	mmm ubuntu_ there is probably a log of the commands you issued on the command line the installed systems //home/<name>/.bash_history and a log of what dpkg has done in //var/log/dpkg.log	04:10
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Agent_bob	<ubuntu_> How is that file related to the main drive? <<< ?	04:10
Fable	there are 2 versions of azureus here, the regular and azureus-gcj whats the difference	04:10
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fenrig	install the azureus one the ~-gcj is a problem package	04:12
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Fable	fenrig: so youre saying to stick to just the regular	04:12
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BluesKaj	azureus is a prob pkg ...java hog	04:14
Fable	i know it is	04:14
Fable	what can you recommand over azureus	04:15
Fable	cause it supports lots of stuff	04:15
Fable	thats why	04:15
BluesKaj	ktorrent	04:15
fenrig	yeah ktorrent is much better	04:15
Fable	IYO which is the best client for linux	04:15
BluesKaj	my experience tells me ktorrent ...too bad there isn't utorrent for linux , cuz ktorrent is the closest IMO	04:16
NamShub	screen + btdownloadcurses-bittornado :)	04:16
Fable	ic	04:17
Fable	what do you think fenrig?	04:17
coreymon77	BluesKaj: utorrent for linux is in development, but in the mean time, it works absolutely perfect over wine	04:17
BluesKaj	there are somewho disagree , but i'm sticking with ktorrent ...I like it's features NAT & port forwarding etc	04:18
coreymon77	BluesKaj: the utorrent site says that wine is the best alternative for the moment, works comepletely perfect	04:18
Fable	wine?	04:18
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BluesKaj	cool coreymon77 , i hadn't considered running it in wine	04:18
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Agent_bob	aside from pornography and warez, is there any real use for torrents ?	04:18
Fable	wine is a bittorrent client?	04:18
coreymon77	BluesKaj: it works as if native	04:19
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coreymon77	Fable: no, wine allows you to run many windows programs on linux	04:19
coreymon77	Fable: its nowhere near perfect	04:19
Fable	oh ok	04:19
coreymon77	Fable: but things work	04:19
szakulec	Agent Bob:downloading very large files?	04:19
fenrig	agent_bob: yes look to ho u can download a distro	04:19
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Fable	that souds cool	04:19
Agent_bob	!info wine \| fable	04:19
ubotu	fable: wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB	04:19
Fable	oh	04:20
Fable	cool	04:20
Fable	too bad my windows trashed out	04:20
coreymon77	Agent_bob: bittorrent is used for many legal things aswell	04:20
coreymon77	Fable: makes no diff	04:20
Fable	crashed, all i have is linux	04:20
coreymon77	Fable: you are thinking that wine runs your current windows installation in the background and runs the programs like that right?	04:20
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coreymon77	Fable: thats not what it does	04:21
Agent_bob	coreymon77 hmmmm...	04:21
Fable	ok	04:21
coreymon77	Fable: you dont need windows installed or working for wine	04:21
Agent_bob	Fable wine = wine is not an emulator.	04:21
Fable	so you can have wine without windows intalled	04:21
coreymon77	Fable: wine is an accronym, Wine Is Not an Emulator	04:21
coreymon77	Fable: yes, its not a virtual machine	04:22
Fable	oh ic	04:22
Fable	what are its known uses	04:22
Agent_bob	Fable yes you can have wine and use wine with as little as one file.exe that you want to run.	04:22
Fable	ok	04:23
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coreymon77	Fable: albeit, running the programs in eitehr a virtual machine or in actual windows is better, but wine is good if you are in a pinch or if you only want to run a couple of programs and dont want to install windows just for that	04:23
Agent_bob	known uses already named. wine utorent.exe	04:23
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Fable	oh really	04:23
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coreymon77	yup	04:23
Fable	how much space does it take	04:23
Fable	i could use utorrent	04:24
coreymon77	depends	04:24
coreymon77	the actual wine program, not much	04:24
coreymon77	Fable: what takes up space is what programs you use	04:24
Agent_bob	!info wine \| fable	04:24
ubotu	fable: wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB	04:24
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Fable	ah not much	04:24
Agent_bob	package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB	04:24
Agent_bob	44m	04:25
coreymon77	althoug, if you install a bunch of big windows programs with wine	04:25
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coreymon77	that could use a lot of space	04:25
Fable	all i need is utorrent actually	04:25
coreymon77	i also use wine to run mirc (i host an mirc bot)	04:25
coreymon77	Fable: that will take very little space	04:25
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coreymon77	Fable: install wine through apt, then download utorrent for windows	04:26
Fable	iam getting a replacement CD in a week from Alienware but yes i would like to use it for utorrent	04:26
coreymon77	then click on the .exe file	04:26
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coreymon77	Fable: and continue as if you were doing it on windows	04:27
Fable	ok	04:27
Agent_bob	or is it AOEsetup.exe	04:27
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Agent_bob	anywhen.	04:27
Fable	so adept serach for "wine"	04:27
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coreymon77	Fable: just do sudo apt-get install wine	04:28
Agent_bob	it's in universe	04:28
Fable	ok	04:28
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evsophomore2009	!wine	04:28
ubotu	wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.	04:28
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coreymon77	Fable: then just download utorrent for windows, click on the exe file and continue like normal	04:29
Fable	as if iam running windows	04:30
ubuntu_	still need help with kubuntu not running	04:30
Agent_bob	i never learned the whole pointy clicky thing, always just typed in wine /path/to/file.exe	04:31
BluesKaj	coreymon77, seems like utorrent is working ok :)	04:31
coreymon77	BluesKaj: told ya	04:31
Fable	wow this is cool	04:31
Agent_bob	BluesKaj can you see about ubuntu_ i'm lagging about 20 seconds	04:32
Agent_bob	or coreymon77 ^	04:32
Agent_bob	Jucato even ?	04:32
coreymon77	Agent_bob: pointy-clicky thing? you just go to your home directory and click on it	04:32
Fable	go figure azureus works now	04:33
coreymon77	Agent_bob: sorry, no can do, shower time	04:33
Fable	so utorrent is in dev. for linux i take it	04:33
evsophomore2009	!language	04:33
ubotu	Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.	04:33
foose12	so if i fownload wine, it lets me use windows .exe's?	04:33
evsophomore2009	Foose12: yep it does	04:33
coreymon77	Fable: why use azureus? just wine utorrent	04:33
foose12	cool	04:33
coreymon77	foose12: it doesnt always work though	04:33
Fable	i will	04:33
Fable	thats corey	04:33
Fable	thanks corey*	04:33
foose12	i'll test it out	04:33
coreymon77	foose12: dont run anything too intensive	04:34
evsophomore2009	is anyone familiar with Limewire?	04:34
Fable	yes	04:34
rathel	I need some help with Amarok, My playlists are not showing up, If I save a playlist with the same name it says that it already exists.	04:34
foose12	btw, is kubuntu better than ubuntu to have	04:34
level1	hello, how to I change the path that programs executed from the command line are changed in and make it persistant?	04:34
level1	is it called PATH?	04:34
evsophomore2009	Fable: for some reason, after playing a few songs it makes a noise (like an Error) and i cant play music untill i restart Limewire	04:34
GrueTamer	foose12: kubuntu is ubuntu with a different desktop environment with some different programs to start with, but theyre like the same thing	04:34
coreymon77	foose12: makes no difference, its just your prefference between kde or gnome	04:34
foose12	cool	04:35
foose12	runs the same programs thoguh right	04:35
Fable	ex:check your options	04:35
evsophomore2009	Fable: has that happend to you?	04:35
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Fable	yes once	04:35
evsophomore2009	Fable: What options?	04:35
Fable	corey: i installed wine	04:35
ubuntu_	any one?	04:37
evsophomore2009	Fable: do you know exactly what tab and optnios to choose?	04:37
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dthacker	OT: How can I restart just the network portion of the ubuntu-server install? (ubuntu-server channel is very quiet)	04:39
Agent_bob	ubuntu_ sorry that no one is here to help right now. maybe if you ask in #ubuntu they can help.	04:39
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bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: what is the problem	04:39
Agent_bob	dthacker maybe sudo /etc/init.d/network* restart	04:40
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ubuntu_	Last night I found away to get my xternal drive to be seen on desktop using one of ubuntus help forums	04:40
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Fable	ev: not exactly	04:41
dthacker	Agent_bob: tnx. That restarts the network, but I want to restart the install dialog. The dim recesses of my debian install memories tell me it can be done....	04:41
Fable	go through and make sure you are not conflicting. if not just reinstall after removing the old files	04:41
bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: its not automatically detected	04:41
ubuntu_	Today I started the pc and can get it to boot properly. It show the KUBUNTU screen then a nother screen the just a black screen	04:41
Agent_bob	dthacker ubiquity ?	04:42
coreymon77	Fable: and, did you get utorrent yet?	04:42
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dthacker	Agent_bob: hey, worth a try!	04:42
bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: when its in the kubuntu screen, hit alt-f1 to see the output, then tell us what it gets stuck on	04:42
BluesKaj	coreymon77, where is the default browser option for the utorrent search box	04:43
rustalot	When I try to do "suggested Songs" in Amarok, it doesn't work	04:43
dthacker	bbl: the server lives in the dungeon. (basement)	04:43
Agent_bob	dthacker might dpkg-reconfigure something ? i'm not sure exactly what you are asking, and i'm lagging almost to the point of dsync	04:43
ubuntu_	ok I'll try	04:43
evsophomore2009	is anyone here familliar with Wine?	04:43
bonbonthejon	evsophomore2009: red or white? :)	04:43
evsophomore2009	cute	04:44
dthacker	evsophomore2009: only at the command line	04:44
bonbonthejon	evsophomore2009: whats the question	04:44
Fable	i like white myself	04:44
rustalot	evsophomore: I'm not really familiar, but I might be able to help	04:44
bonbonthejon	!ask	04:44
ubotu	Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	04:44
evsophomore2009	Bonbonthejon: well i wanna install iTunes and it saids	04:44
evsophomore2009	mike@mike-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install wineitunessetup.cd	04:44
evsophomore2009	Reading package lists... Done	04:44
evsophomore2009	Building dependency tree	04:44
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evsophomore2009	Reading state information... Done	04:44
evsophomore2009	E: Couldn't find package wineitunessetup.cd	04:44
evsophomore2009	mike@mike-desktop:~$ wine itunessetup.cd	04:45
evsophomore2009	wine: creating configuration directory '/home/mike/.wine'...	04:45
evsophomore2009	wine: '/home/mike/.wine' created successfully.	04:45
evsophomore2009	wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\itunessetup.cd": Module not found	04:45
evsophomore2009	i know i know Pastebin	04:45
evsophomore2009	sorry	04:45
bonbonthejon	evsophomore2009: you need to do "sudo apt-get install wine", then run "wine itunessetup.exe"	04:45
dthacker	we'll forgive you, this time	04:45
dthacker	:)	04:45
evsophomore2009	i already installed wine in Adept	04:45
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bonbonthejon	evsophomore2009: and I'm not sure if itunes works under wine. Plus, Amarok is better anyway	04:45
evsophomore2009	ew i hate Amarok	04:46
bonbonthejon	evsophomore2009: so run "wine itunessetup.exe"	04:46
rustalot	except I can't get the suggest songs to work	04:46
evsophomore2009	i clicked on the itunes setup and its installing now	04:46
dthacker	rustalot: have you tried the #amarok channel?	04:46
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dthacker	rustalot: they helped me with some last.fm scrobbling issues.	04:47
foose12	does amarok support mp3?	04:47
dthacker	!mp3 \| foose12	04:47
ubotu	foose12: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	04:47
rustalot	i.e., yes but you need proprietary codecs	04:48
rathel	I need some help with Amarok, My playlists are not showing up, If I save a playlist with the same name it says that it already exists.	04:48
foose12	rustalot: thanks	04:48
rustalot	btw, is it possible to import MSN or Google contacts into Kontact?	04:48
evsophomore2009	hmm this dosent make sence	04:49
bonbonthejon	rustalot: yeah, I use kopete and Google chat (hjabber)	04:49
evsophomore2009	iTunes says its installed, and under All Programs, but its actully not installed. on Terminal i type in itunes and it wont load	04:49
bonbonthejon	evsophomore2009: you need to go to the directory and then do "wine itunes.exe"	04:50
rustalot	I like pidgin, myself, but I might switch. I used to use GNOME, but I switched over to K. I notice stuff integrates a lot more	04:50
evsophomore2009	c:\\windows\\system32\\itunes.exe could not be found	04:50
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ubuntu_	Ok back again	04:51
evsophomore2009	Binbonthejon: did you get that?	04:51
ubuntu_	error happens at: mounting local file system	04:52
bonbonthejon	evsophomore2009: yeah, is that where it installed?	04:52
evsophomore2009	i guess...how do i find out?	04:53
bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: can you put in a live cd and check out the partitions? that doesn't sound right to get stuck there. What filesystems did you use	04:53
bonbonthejon	evsophomore2009: I don't know	04:53
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rustalot	poupineldevalence	04:54
ubuntu_	I'm using the live cd now	04:54
rustalot	err oops wrong program	04:54
jriachi	mmm... if there was a problem downloading the .debs.. will apt-get check its md5 or something and warn me?	04:54
ubuntu_	Forgot to add to error: mount: special device /dev/sdb1	04:54
bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: can you do "fdisk -l"	04:55
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snake_	hi to all	04:55
ubuntu_	using live cd?	04:55
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bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: yeah	04:56
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ubuntu_	no nothing happens	04:56
snake_	i have a problem with my sound card. it was ok but i do not know what i messed up. i did sudo apt-get autoremove and its not working anymore	04:56
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bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: I dont play with the live cd, so I dont know. hopefuly someone else can help	04:57
ubuntu_	by the way the error that I'm getting is my external drive but why would that effect my main drive?	04:57
evsophomore2009	Anyone here good with Wine & Itunes?	04:57
bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: if it can't mount it, I guess it gets stuck. Can you edit fstab and comment it out	04:57
ubuntu_	I did do a command to remove a file based on ubuntus help f	04:58
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ubuntu_	How do I do that?	04:58
bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: mount the HDD, something like "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media"	04:59
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snake_	i have a problem with my sound card. it was ok but i do not know what i messed up. i did sudo apt-get autoremove and its not working anymore	04:59
bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: or if its not too much trouble, unplug the drive and reinstall	04:59
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ubuntu_	ok i'll try it	05:00
ubuntu_	i'll be back	05:00
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rustalot	So now that I have a bunch of contacts/groups in Kopete, how do I put them into Kontact?	05:06
crxyem	ok, I;m ready do do an update from edgy to feisty , my question is I use connection-manager for my wireless connection and I noticed 7.04 uses knetwork manager now, and it works well, should I remove connection-maanger before I upgrade ? ?	05:07
evsophomore2009	i need help someone	05:07
level1	are there java 5+ SDKs in the ubuntu repos by now?	05:07
level1	evsophomore2009: you should ask wine questions in #wine... btw, amarok is a very nice alternative to iTunes	05:08
level1	sorry, #winehq	05:08
crxyem	level1 I'm showing java5 in my repositories on edgy	05:08
jriachi	amarok powa!	05:08
crxyem	but not the sdk	05:08
level1	crxyem: whats the difference between the jdk and the sdk?	05:09
level1	because there is the jdk	05:09
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GrueTamer	jdk is java development kit, sdk means software development kit	05:09
crxyem	beat me to it	05:09
crxyem	amarok changed my life , I used to use winamp w/ albumlist plug-in, I can't imagine ever doing that again	05:10
level1	GrueTamer: i could guess that, whats the actually difference?	05:10
=== bonbonthejon thanks the computer gods for Amarok
level1	crxyem: I love amarok to death, but I wish it could support very large playlists better... do you know any way to fix that?	05:10
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crxyem	so any ideas about my Q above ??	05:12
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level1	crxyem: might as well	05:12
ubuntu_	back again	05:12
bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: update?	05:12
level1	crxyem: but, on the otherhand, sometimes knetworkmanager is fussy	05:12
ubuntu_	can see it	05:13
level1	btw, kpowersave is a very nice app	05:13
crxyem	how large of a playlist ??/	05:13
level1	man, some of the best software in the world is kde software, isn't it?	05:13
ubuntu_	But now that I turn on external driver I get no errors	05:13
level1	crxyem: like, 10,000+ songs	05:13
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ubuntu_	I must of replace a file by accident	05:14
crxyem	hmm, largest playlist I've got is ~ 1000	05:14
Alonea	hey, are there IME's for Linux?	05:14
bonbonthejon	good that it works	05:14
crxyem	I'm using Mysql as the database works well	05:14
level1	crxyem: I was referring to my entire collection	05:14
ubuntu_	but now what?	05:15
level1	crxyem: should I take the time to convert to mysql? I just reinstalled, so I don't have any "most played" data yet	05:15
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ubuntu_	I got no problem reinstalling but I have some pics I would like to get	05:15
klap	Spanish	05:15
crxyem	I'd do it, I like that I can have multiple clients pull from the same database	05:15
bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: does it load?	05:15
klap	Spanish	05:16
klap	Espa;ol	05:16
bonbonthejon	!es \| klap	05:16
ubotu	klap: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.	05:16
ubuntu_	no	05:16
klap	i love that BOT	05:16
bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: how far now? still mounting?	05:16
crxyem	also, my collection is at 21,000+ tracks and I really like the dynamic platlist feature, pretty good way to make use of all 21K songs randomly playing	05:16
ubuntu_	the same as before but with no errors	05:16
crxyem	I'm going to have to check out kpowersave	05:17
level1	crxyem: any clue how to get mysql working? its quite a beast	05:17
Alonea	hey, are there IME's for Linux? Wanting japanese.	05:17
bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: can you hit ctrl-alt-f7 when its done loading. that should get you to X. otherwise ctrl-alt-f1 gets you to a console	05:17
level1	Alonea: oh, IME... right, you want scim	05:17
ubuntu_	but I can ctrl alt f1 at the black screen	05:18
level1	Alonea: sometimes its a little trouble, but its improuved a lot	05:18
Alonea	level1: what programs does it work with, or is it just web?	05:18
bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: does it bring up a login prompt?	05:18
ubuntu_	yes	05:18
level1	Alonea: It should work with anything that has a text box... anything	05:18
bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: ok, then log in and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg"	05:19
ubuntu_	I have not try ctrl-alt-f7 yet	05:19
klobster	I had to do a reinstall, now konqueror seems to not render gmail properly?	05:19
Alonea	level1: sweet. and is it under adept?	05:19
crxyem	have you looked at powermanager vs kpowersave ??	05:19
ubuntu_	ok ill try it	05:19
level1	Alonea: yeah... you also have to install the relevant japanese support	05:20
crxyem	I used the install in adept and read some of the help from the kubuntu wiki	05:20
level1	Alonea: join me in finding an online tutorial... I will also install the software	05:20
Alonea	level1: ok. cool. thanks	05:20
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Alonea	level1: alright. and I have no idea about the name for the japanese package. I might already have it. I think I asked for it on set up of ubuntu.../shrugs	05:22
level1	Alonea: the package is anthy	05:22
level1	http://www.h4.dion.ne.jp/~apricots/scim-anthy/howto.html <- we can probably skip a few steps	05:22
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foose12	how do i go from ubuntu to kubuntu	05:23
bonbonthejon	foose12: install kubuntu-desktop	05:23
urli	hola a todos	05:23
urli	hay alguna argentina	05:23
bonbonthejon	!es \| urli	05:24
ubotu	urli: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.	05:24
foose12	bonbonthejon: is it in add/remove applications or onlin?	05:24
bonbonthejon	foose12: in add/remove applications	05:24
Alonea	level1: yeah, I am still installing the packages. I was looking at the Scim Wiki, Documentation	05:24
foose12	i don't see it :(	05:25
bonbonthejon	foose12: open a console and run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"	05:25
foose12	thank you	05:26
bonbonthejon	foose12: did that work?	05:26
foose12	its unpackaging now	05:26
bonbonthejon	foose12: good	05:26
foose12	yup, i just figured i be better off with kubuntu	05:27
bonbonthejon	foose12: if only everyone saw the light	05:27
bonbonthejon	:)	05:27
foose12	will i need to restart?	05:27
foose12	haha	05:27
bonbonthejon	foose12: I believe you will just logout, restart x, then log into kde	05:27
foose12	okedoke, im at 18 percent now	05:28
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jriachi	hello	05:29
jriachi	anyone with gutsy? I'd like to confirm a bug	05:29
bonbonthejon	hi	05:29
bonbonthejon	jriachi: go into #ubuntu+1, Ill meet you there	05:29
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ubuntu_	back once again	05:31
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klap	spanish	05:32
klap	spanish	05:33
klap	Com on boot	05:33
klap	tell me !	05:33
klap	spanish spanish espa;ol	05:33
klap	whait.. whait.. hold on..	05:33
klap	spanish	05:33
foose12	!spanish	05:34
ubotu	Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.	05:34
foose12	haha	05:34
bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: update?	05:34
klap	OO yes i love THAt BOT!	05:34
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foose12	haha	05:34
foose12	just use the "!" sybol	05:34
ubuntu_	could not run command. It did nothing	05:34
klap	i can use	05:34
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klap	!spanish	05:34
ubotu	Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.	05:34
klap	Lol	05:34
klap	Great	05:34
klap	!spanish	05:34
klap	i love that shhit ! men	05:35
devnull	How do I get my cpuspeed to max ? Its set at 1000mhz right now and it should be 2000...	05:35
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bonbonthejon	devnull: is it throttling?	05:35
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devnull	bonbonthejon: yeah	05:37
bonbonthejon	devnull: it stays low until it needs the power	05:37
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devnull	bonbonthejon: even so, I would like it to uh, not.	05:38
devnull	its a desktop.. I do not need cool and quiet	05:38
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bonbonthejon	!throttling	05:38
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about throttling - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:38
bonbonthejon	devnull: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77497.html	05:39
beldayven	nite	05:40
bonbonthejon	night	05:40
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ubuntu_	bonbonthejo-anything?	05:41
bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: whats it doing now?	05:41
ubuntu_	I have not try anything	05:42
ubuntu_	Gues I'm stuck reinstalling it	05:42
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ubuntu_	How can I get some pictures out?	05:42
bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: it might be the easiest option. Maybe you can mount the drive and copy the pictures	05:42
ubuntu_	how do i do that?	05:43
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bonbonthejon	ubuntu_: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=563007 tells how to mount a drive from live cd	05:44
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klobster	why is konqueror rendering poorly now (after reinstall)	05:50
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Jahooty	does k-feisty have any known issues with broadcom wireless devices in laptops?	05:54
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klap_	!spanish	05:55
ubotu	Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.	05:55
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dr_willis	Jahooty, may depend on the exact chipset.	05:56
dr_willis	my laptops broadcom card works.	05:56
Jahooty	ok, i found a forum topic on it, if that doesn't help i'll go gather info from the laptop	05:57
Jahooty	i really wish i just had time to run network cables up the walls	05:57
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dr_willis	I run mine through the duct work. :)	05:57
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foose12	bonbonthejon: are u still there?	05:58
level1	does anyone know how to change the font for asian text ie Japanese?	05:58
bonbonthejon	foose12: yeah	05:58
jrattner	How do i change the default movie viewer in KDE	05:58
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level1	jrattner: well, you kinda have to do it for each file type individually	05:58
Jahooty	i thought of that, but i don't want cables coming out of vents, i'll just buy some jacks and wall plates	05:58
Jahooty	add some resale value maybe	05:59
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level1	jrattner: just right click on a file of the type	05:59
Jucato	jrattner: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Association	05:59
level1	or that	05:59
jrattner	Jucato, thanks	05:59
Evolution2	hello. i just got wine but i think i dont have the latest version because i would like to use it for utorrent and WMP 11. iam running kubuntu 7.04	05:59
foose12	bonbonthejon: it's taking forever to "set up kubunutu-desktop"	06:00
foose12	it loaded everything else	06:00
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klobster	how do I get the mplayer plugin to work? it freezes up in konq, and doesn't load in firefox...	06:01
bonbonthejon	foose12: there is a lot to install	06:01
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raymond__	how do i reconfigure x11?	06:01
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raymond__	i tried using nvidia-glx drivers and had to delete xorg.conf in order to get a GUI	06:02
bonbonthejon	raymond__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg	06:02
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Evolution2	i just got wine but i think i dont have the latest version because i would like to use it for utorrent and WMP 11. iam running kubuntu 7.04	06:03
foose12	bonbonthejon: yup, it went through setting up all the extra programs kde comes with, but it's been about 20 min, didn't know if that was normal	06:03
foose12	20 mins on the setting up kubuntu-desktop file	06:03
bonbonthejon	foose12: it had to download all the kde stuff, and has to set them up	06:04
bonbonthejon	foose12: hmm	06:04
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AlfaScorpii	somebody like a mate?	06:05
foose12	i just didn't know if it was stuck, or if that's a normal amount of time	06:05
draik	General question... Does Linux make images differently than when in windows?	06:05
bonbonthejon	draik: cd image or picture image	06:06
draik	bonbonthejon: Picture Images. They were from a digital camera	06:06
AlfaScorpii	somebody like a mate guys?	06:06
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AlfaScorpii	im drinking mate here	06:06
bonbonthejon	draik: a jpg is a jpg	06:07
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draik	I had them on my xD card, then xfer'd them to my computer. I just put them on USB and took them to a photo processing station.	06:07
raymond__	how do i get the PCI bus identifier of something?	06:07
draik	bonbonthejon: That's what I thought, but the kiosk wouldn't read the darn thing. "Unknown media"	06:07
bonbonthejon	raymond	06:08
bonbonthejon	raymond__: lspci	06:08
draik	I took it to another place and had the same issue, but at least it read that there was 1 directory, but no images.	06:09
draik	I tried it again and then it read the 12 images on the USB drive	06:09
draik	Go figure	06:09
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raymond__	i just installed the nvidia drivers and reconfigured X and now my fonts are huge. any reason why and how i can shrink them down like they were	06:23
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intelikey	libmodplug* is depended on, but i can't find it... ???	06:25
Ashex	!codec > me	06:25
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abhijit_	hi i just wanted to know if it is possible to put a matrix screensaver on desktop as wallpaper.actually i have seen it in a youtube video	06:27
posingaspopular	abhijit_: what do you mean put a screensaver as wallpaper?	06:29
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lO_osr	hi	06:29
lO_osr	ssup	06:29
lO_osr	ok	06:29
theotick	http://zmatrix.sourceforge.net/ is the one I used on my windows machine.. ofcourse you'd need to port it to linux	06:29
lO_osr	how can in digikam see ALL my pictures at once, my entire collection	06:30
lO_osr	and not folder by folder	06:30
jriachi	abhijit_: it is possible, but i think you cant put icons and a screensaver on the desktop at the same time :S	06:30
lO_osr	just like F-Spot, otherwise I will have to use F-Spot. Even possibly entirely to Gnome	06:30
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abhijit_	i have seen such type of desktop in youtube video .l wondr how he did it	06:31
Dhraakellian	is there any way to get console debug information in amarok without recompiling it for onesself?	06:31
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jriachi	abhijit_: kmatrix.kss --root (allowing programs to run in the destktop, from the desktop->rightclick)	06:32
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Jahooty	ok, where do i find the chipset of my broadcom wireless device?	06:32
intelikey	Jahooty either lshw or lspci and you can pipe through \| less or use the gui tool "device manager"	06:33
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lO_osr	that's it, I am going back to F-Spot	06:34
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foose12	!f-spot	06:36
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about f-spot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	06:36
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lO_osr	foose12: actually I was asking if it's possible to use Digikam like F-spot to have all the pictures instead of folder by folder	06:37
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foose12	ah, i don't really have any idea	06:39
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Jahooty	thanks	06:40
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Jahooty	that did help	06:40
intelikey	!patience	06:41
ubotu	The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped. Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines	06:41
PrabuMahaAnu	is ndiswrapper can use for printer driver?	06:42
intelikey	know i not.	06:42
PrabuMahaAnu	how about wine?	06:42
AscendedDaniel	usually the built-in support is pretty good... What printer are you trying to use?	06:43
AlfaScorpii	PrabuMahaAnu: no ty, dont drink at work	06:43
intelikey	printing via wine ???? that's a novel idea	06:43
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PrabuMahaAnu	canon ip1000	06:43
PrabuMahaAnu	cups doesn't recognize my printer	06:44
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intelikey	!printer	06:45
ubotu	Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows	06:45
intelikey	sometimes that ^ helps	06:45
PrabuMahaAnu	ok, thx intelikey	06:46
foose12	i'm trying to "upgrade" from ubuntu to kubuntu, and i think the downloader is stuck	06:47
foose12	it went through and downloaded everything, then started to set everything up, but it's now stuck at "setting up kubutu-desktop"	06:47
intelikey	foose12 it's not an "upgrade" it's a package install. neither would adding gnome be an upgrade	06:47
foose12	i know, i was kinda being sarcastic	06:48
intelikey	!adeptcrashfix \| foose12 you can kill it and finish from the command line to see what happened. +	06:49
ubotu	foose12 you can kill it and finish from the command line to see what happened. +: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a	06:49
foose12	waht's adept	06:49
foose12	i dont think it crashed	06:49
foose12	ill try and kil it	06:49
n8k99	!adept	06:49
ubotu	adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto	06:49
intelikey	hung pretty much = crash	06:50
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Comrade-Sergei	what does the cannot talk to klauncher mean when i load a KDE program?	06:50
foose12	how do i kill it, "kill"	06:50
foose12	?	06:50
intelikey	Comrade-Sergei umm means that gamin or gamserver or something is not running	06:51
Comrade-Sergei	how can i est	06:51
Comrade-Sergei	test	06:51
intelikey	foose12 the command is listed in that infonode from ubotu ^	06:51
intelikey	Comrade-Sergei i have see that error, but it was normally because i did something like rm -r /root ;ln -s /dev/null /root	06:52
Comrade-Sergei	im not nearly that advances	06:52
intelikey	if /root is not writable by kde/kdm you'll get that	06:52
Comrade-Sergei	i run gnome though	06:53
Comrade-Sergei	just my kde apps do thaT	06:53
intelikey	still means it's looking for gamin let me think	06:53
Comrade-Sergei	k	06:54
foose12	intelikey: i di the command u suggested, it asked me for my password, and i put it in.	06:54
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level1	how do i start mysql once I have it installed?	06:54
foose12	wat was it supposed to do?	06:54
intelikey	Comrade-Sergei seems like there is an option in your gnome menu system services that will let you run kde services ? not sure the name...	06:55
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hakimin	hai	06:55
intelikey	foose12 sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ;sudo dpkg --configure -a <<<<<<< that should finish the installation and if it has errors tell us.	06:55
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kizsari	hi	06:55
murdo	ola	06:56
Comrade-Sergei	there is a services tab yes	06:56
level1	foose12: you mean mysql? I'm trying to set up an amarok mysql db... mysql seems to need to be started, which of course, isn't mentioned in any tutorial	06:56
intelikey	foose12 if you ran that and it didn't say some "setting up packagename " stuff then it's probably finished already.	06:56
lO_osr	holygrail anyone? Passwordless login??!!	06:56
Comrade-Sergei	intelikey, i see no kde in there though	06:57
intelikey	foose12 the long and short of it is, that command streightens out the package manager so you can go on about your normal business	06:57
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foose12	intelikey: if it's finished, should i just restart?	06:58
intelikey	just logout. no need to restart anything	06:58
foose12	ok	06:58
foose12	brb	06:58
Comrade-Sergei	intelikey, did you think of the problem?	06:58
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level1	how do i start mysql once I have it installed?	06:59
intelikey	Comrade-Sergei yeah. but i'm really not the goto guy on gui things. i haven't started a gui on this box in over 10 days now.	06:59
Comrade-Sergei	level1, google it...	07:00
mneptok	level1: it's started for you	07:00
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Comrade-Sergei	intelikey, omg how do you live?!?	07:00
Comrade-Sergei	intelikey, well i can do it with a console....	07:00
intelikey	how do you ?	07:00
level1	mneptok: apparently not	07:00
level1	Comrade-Sergei: apparently, thats too important to be put online	07:01
Comrade-Sergei	i like fancy buttons and window borders	07:01
intelikey	but anyway. dcop may be the answer you want	07:01
mneptok	level1: ps aux \| grep sql	07:01
Comrade-Sergei	me intelikey	07:01
Comrade-Sergei	?	07:01
intelikey	yeah	07:01
level1	mneptok: 1 entry: level1 19499 0.0 0.0 2880 772 pts/2 S+ 00:01 0:00 grep sql	07:01
intelikey	grep ^ :)	07:01
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mneptok	level1: sudo invoke-rc.d mysqld	07:02
mneptok	(or is it mysql?) oops. O:)	07:02
level1	invoke-rc.d: syntax error: missing required parameter	07:02
mneptok	crap. phone.	07:02
level1	?	07:02
AscendedDaniel	!beryl	07:03
ubotu	beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects	07:03
level1	AscendedDaniel: they'll help a lot in #beryl and #opencompositing too	07:03
lO_osr	passwordless login anyone/anybody?	07:03
foose12	intelikey: well, i have alot of new programs now, how do i know if i have a kde desktop now	07:03
AscendedDaniel	thanks, I'm trying to get it set up... working with the howtos for now	07:04
level1	IO_osr: (why can't I type your name?) theres a place for that in system settings	07:04
level1	under advanced	07:04
Comrade-Sergei	intelikey, i reinstalled gamin think itll help?	07:04
intelikey	foose12 you can select it at login.	07:04
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foose12	hmm...	07:04
intelikey	Comrade-Sergei maybe. and sudo /etc/init.d/gam* restart might reveal what's happening	07:05
level1	mneptok: did you mean sudo invoke-rc.d mysqld start?	07:05
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intelikey	foose12 did you not check the menu at the login screen ?	07:05
intelikey	foose12 select session	07:06
foose12	no, i didn't	07:06
intelikey	:)	07:07
foose12	should i try to reinstall?	07:07
intelikey	why ?	07:07
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foose12	i don't knw, im very confused	07:07
foose12	brb	07:07
intelikey	foose12 just select the session "kde" when you login. you can even make it default from there	07:08
foose12	ok	07:08
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AlfaScorpii	can i change my /home to an other partition with out louse the content?	07:08
intelikey	AlfaScorpii sure if you know how	07:08
AlfaScorpii	intelikey: and the soft installed there?	07:08
intelikey	AlfaScorpii you simply format the partition in question mount it some place like /media copy your stuff there set /etc/fstab to mount it on /home ... and if you need the space delete everything in your home and restart/or umount it and mount -a logout/in	07:11
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AlfaScorpii	intelikey: ty!	07:12
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intelikey	AlfaScorpii only thing i didn't mention was the permissions bit. when you mount the fs on /media you'll need to do something like sudo chown `whoami` /media -R	07:12
AlfaScorpii	yep	07:12
foose12	intelikey: thanks, it works now, i wouldn't have found that by myself (i=n00b)	07:12
AlfaScorpii	ty	07:12
intelikey	then you can copy there. else you wont have write perms and things get screwy	07:12
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foose12	btw i like the kubuntu desktop look better :)	07:13
intelikey	foose12 np.	07:13
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intelikey	*ey	07:13
AlfaScorpii	intelikey: like a mate?	07:14
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=== intelikey <check mate> ???
lO_osr	!multimedia	07:15
ubotu	Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications	07:15
foose12	!mate	07:15
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about mate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:15
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tazz	how tricky would it be to run kde apps in gnome?	07:15
intelikey	yuch After unpacking 144MB of additional disk space will be used.	07:16
AlfaScorpii	intelikey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_%28beverage%29	07:16
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sparr	where does Quick Launcher get its program popularity data? it doesnt seem to be the same place as K Menu	07:16
intelikey	tazz should be as simple as install and run	07:16
AlfaScorpii	foose12: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_%28beverage%29	07:16
sparr	tazz: not tricky at all. with the appropriate libraries (which synaptic or adept will install automatically) it will Just Work	07:16
sparr	tazz: they will take a little longer to start, because the kde background stuff wont already be loaded	07:17
tazz	but wont it be messy?	07:17
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sparr	not really	07:18
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MilhousePunkRock	abattoir: HEY!	07:20
giampi	hello all	07:20
abattoir	hello MilhousePunkRock :)	07:20
MilhousePunkRock	abattoir: Not on Jabber?	07:20
intelikey	tazz many people install gnome kde xfce4 and other desktop environments and their apps and 'mix & match' to suit their taste	07:20
MilhousePunkRock	~ntfs	07:20
icecruncher	how can I download , not install a package along with all it's dependacies?	07:20
MilhousePunkRock	!ntfs	07:20
ubotu	To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse	07:20
intelikey	tazz it's common place in linux	07:20
giampi	guys i'm new to kubuntu for some reasons my firefox has transparent borders, how can i fix that? I mean i do not see the minimize etc..	07:21
lO_osr	!restrictions	07:21
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about restrictions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:21
lO_osr	!restricted	07:21
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	07:21
tazz	cool....thanks	07:21
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icecruncher	!botabuse \| lO_osr	07:21
ubotu	lO_osr: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...	07:21
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lO_osr	!flash	07:23
ubotu	To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	07:23
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icecruncher	!adeptfix	07:24
ubotu	If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a	07:24
intelikey	look at this KRAP! some idiot put "HOME=/root" in the fontconfig.postinst ! idiot.	07:24
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lO_osr	can it be that I don't Flash is not available for me because I am running amd64 bit?	07:28
lO_osr	2 SMP Thu Jun 7 19:00:28 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux	07:28
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klobster	mplayer plugin not working for firefox or konq?	07:28
lO_osr	is frostwire available for 64 bit?	07:29
intelikey	!gnash	07:29
ubotu	An open source flash replacement. It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/	07:29
lO_osr	intelikey: can I watch youtube with Gnash?	07:31
intelikey	utube ?	07:32
intelikey	idk	07:32
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lO_osr	!java	07:34
ubotu	To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.	07:34
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medtest	ne one out there?	07:37
medtest	?	07:37
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AlfaScorpii	medtest: ?	07:37
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khaije1	anybody up?	07:41
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khaije1	I'm wondering how to troubleshoot/resolve a problem i have w/ 32-bit compatibility on amd64 ubuntu	07:42
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Evolution2	how do i update to the latest version of wine	07:43
khaije1	!wine	07:44
ubotu	wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.	07:44
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ubuntu_	hello all	07:46
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ubuntu_	hello all. I'm currently chatting from a live cd installer of Fiesty. I've tried both a kubuntu 7.04 and ubuntu cd with the same problem. I've got a 500gig sataII drive. This is a rather new computer and my bios and the partition software for the ubuntu installer detects it as a 500 gig hard drive. But when i try to manually set my partitions through the installer it won't let me create one larger then 68607 MB in size anyone got any	07:48
ubuntu_	ideas?	07:48
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intelikey	ubuntu_ anything on the drive ?	07:53
ubuntu_	nothing its a brand new drive	07:53
ubuntu_	i just installed gparted, and it has no problems with the drive	07:53
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intelikey	ubuntu_ then it's problem solved ?	07:54
ubuntu_	well it is if i don't use the installer to partition :)	07:54
intelikey	a work around beets a no show...	07:54
ubuntu_	true	07:54
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ubuntu_	btw, what is a good suggested swap size, for a 500 gig install?	07:55
ubuntu_	i was thinking 2gig	07:55
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alakhia	!kernel	07:55
ubotu	kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel. You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild	07:55
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intelikey	ubuntu_ are you planning on syspending to disk ? and how much ram do you have the size of disk is not important unless you are cramped for space	07:56
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fritz	i know this is offtopic	07:57
fritz	but i'm not getting mutch help	07:57
fritz	on tghe win channel	07:57
fritz	so can you help me ..cause i just installed windows	07:57
fritz	and it won't connect to the internet	07:57
fritz	i checked in control panel	07:58
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ubuntu_	intelikey: nope this will just be a desktop system, its got 1 gig ram	07:58
fritz	and everything seems allright	07:58
Search4Lancer	I seem to not have any swap space anymore... how do I (re)create some?	07:58
fritz	ran cmd	07:58
fritz	and ran ipconfig	07:58
fritz	and it shows i'm receiving pakages	07:58
intelikey	ubuntu_ you can make a swap if you feel better with one. but i wouldn't mess with swap	07:58
fritz	soo....ideas?	07:58
ubuntu_	thanks	07:58
ubuntu_	btw, does kubuntu remove all the gnome related libs etc from the install cd?	07:59
dthacker	argh, dns 1, dthacker 0. life sucks	07:59
ubuntu_	i would like to have both on this system	07:59
intelikey	swap files are cheep if needed	07:59
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intelikey	ubuntu_ you can install gnome after install	07:59
ubuntu_	ok	08:00
ubuntu_	anyway thanks guys	08:00
ubuntu_	have a good day	08:00
intelikey	i would sujest the gnome meta package rather than the ubuntu-desktop package	08:00
intelikey	and i'm talking to myself again aren't i	08:01
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intelikey	hmmm pt_chown: needs to be installed setuid `root'	08:01
intelikey	Cannot chmod /dev/ttyp0 to 620 currently 666: Operation not permitted	08:01
dthacker	yes, but it's not a bad thing	08:01
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intelikey	so i think i should rm `which pt_chown` and ln -s /bin/true pt_chown	08:02
Evolution2	what are the command to untar and install a .tar.bz2 package	08:02
dthacker	bunzip2 myfile	08:02
dthacker	then tar xvf myfile	08:03
intelikey	Evolution2 something like tar -xf package.tar.bz2 && cd package/ && ./configure && make && sudo make install	08:03
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dthacker	I was going to suggest the INSTALL and README files might need to be read....	08:04
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jdt	does anybody know guarddog well? I have a question about traffic direction when using guarddog to setup iptables	08:04
intelikey	dthacker why make two steps out of the untar process ?	08:04
intelikey	tar does bz2/gzip/zip	08:04
dthacker	'cos I'm braindead after fighting with DNS and I can't remember the other flag....	08:04
intelikey	-j but not needed	08:05
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Evolution2	so its tar -xf filename?	08:05
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intelikey	tar -xjvf blah. but yes tar -xf is all you need	08:06
intelikey	and even the dash is not mandatory	08:06
intelikey	imo it's good habit	08:06
Evolution2	it tell me it cannot open :(	08:07
intelikey	Evolution2 ls -l filename and let us see	08:07
dthacker	does the error message specify a reason why it can't open?	08:07
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Evolution2	cannot open: no such file or directory	08:08
intelikey	well there you go.	08:08
intelikey	use the correct path	08:08
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Evolution2	its in my desktop	08:08
Evolution2	so ~/desktop/....	08:08
jdt	In guarddog, how do you define an any out rule, but maintain restriction on incomming traffic?	08:08
intelikey	and you are in your $HOME/ most likely	08:09
intelikey	so yes	08:09
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intelikey	!guarddog	08:09
ubotu	Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).	08:10
Evolution2	that untared	08:10
Evolution2	how does it install	08:10
binks	!ati	08:10
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	08:10
dthacker	Evolution2: now you should see a README or INSTALL or both. Time to read them.	08:11
intelikey	!tarball	08:11
ubotu	Files with ".tar.gz", ".tar.bz2" or ".tgz" extensions are compressed archive formats, similar to ZIP files. See !tar for extracting them. Some of these files contain programs in source code form; see !compile for getting them to run.	08:11
dthacker	Evolution2: btw, what is this thing you are untarring?	08:11
intelikey	!b-e \| Evolution2	08:11
ubotu	Evolution2: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)	08:11
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Evolution2	wine-0.9.39	08:13
intelikey	!info wine	08:14
ubotu	wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB	08:14
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infokom2	yang terlalu sombong	08:15
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intelikey	!tab	08:16
ubotu	You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.	08:16
intelikey	linux is handy that way...	08:16
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icecruncher	can anyone tell me how to install a buch of packages on a comp with no internet acces?	08:17
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Selanit	icecruncher, download the appropriate .deb package someplace where you do have one, and then copy them over on a CD or thumb drive.	08:18
icecruncher	Selanit: yeah, but I have to manually got through the mirrors, it sucks	08:19
Selanit	icecruncher: yeah, it does. I've done it a few times, mostly when I was trying to get assorted wi-fi cards to work. You have my sympathies.	08:19
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icecruncher	Selanit: for example i dont knwo where to find g++_4%3a4.1.2-1ubuntu1_i386.deb	08:20
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navets	can anyone tell me a good php debugger	08:20
PrabuMahaAnu	zend studio	08:21
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Selanit	icecruncher, http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/devel/g++-4.1	08:22
icecruncher	thnks	08:22
Selanit	packages.ubuntu.com should be your first stop for downloading .debs	08:22
icecruncher	or mirrors	08:22
Selanit	Right	08:22
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drgonzo	hey all	08:23
drgonzo	to install gnome after installing kubuntu do apt-get install gnome?	08:23
icecruncher	i need build-essentials, is there a simple way to download it in one go, with all dependancies?	08:23
Daisuke_Ido	okay, klibido sucks.	08:23
icecruncher	drgonzo: sudo aptitue install ubuntu-desktop	08:23
Daisuke_Ido	icecruncher: sudo apt-get install build-essential	08:23
icecruncher	Daisuke_Ido: no I have it installed already, but I need these for a different comp	08:24
drgonzo	thanks	08:24
Daisuke_Ido	!aptoncd	08:24
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about aptoncd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:24
Daisuke_Ido	hmm	08:24
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Daisuke_Ido	if your apt-cache hasn't been cleaned (too much to ask), you can use apt-on-cd to put together a cd repo with it in there, otherwise, isn't it on the cd already?	08:25
icecruncher	Daisuke_Ido: it is on a cd live or alternate? if so, how do i acess it?	08:26
Daisuke_Ido	it should be on both	08:26
Daisuke_Ido	in adept or synaptic, there should be an option to add a repo from cd	08:26
icecruncher	how to install?	08:26
icecruncher	k	08:26
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rathel	I need some help with Amarok, My playlists are not showing up, If I save a playlist with the same name it says that it already exists.	08:28
Daisuke_Ido	well duh	08:31
Daisuke_Ido	:)	08:31
Daisuke_Ido	same name = overwriting the file	08:31
rathel	Well.. duh, but that's not my problem.	08:31
Daisuke_Ido	they just aren't showing in playlist view.	08:32
Daisuke_Ido	that's a bit more perplexing :)	08:32
rathel	uh?	08:32
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Daisuke_Ido	your playlists aren't showing up.	08:32
rathel	Yeah.	08:32
Daisuke_Ido	i assume you mean in the playlist panel on the left.	08:32
rathel	Correct.	08:32
Daisuke_Ido	alright	08:33
rathel	they where, before I reinstalled Kubuntu, dunno what happened.	08:33
Daisuke_Ido	i have absolutely NO clue what could be causing that, unless it's looking in some weird place it can't access for the playlists.	08:33
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rathel	But, if I make a playlist with the same name, It asks to overwrite, and I say yes, it never shows up.	08:34
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icecruncher	what's teh command to see all the active devices	08:39
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Madara_Uchiha	Bonjour tout le monde	08:40
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vzduch	mornin'	08:40
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vzduch	I did a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg', and now I can't log into KDE anymore.. KDM says 'Login failed', but I can log into the console fine	08:42
Admiral_Chicago	someone highlight me please	08:42
vzduch	Admiral_Chicago:	08:42
Admiral_Chicago	thanks you vzduch	08:42
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Admiral_Chicago	thats an odd error.	08:42
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rbrunhuber	vzduch: Did you select the right keyboard driver?	08:42
vzduch	I tried typing y and z the other way around, no luck	08:43
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rbrunhuber	vzduch: try to type your password in the username field, just to see if it comes out correct	08:43
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vzduch	rbrunhuber: ah, didn't think about that.. but I'm doing a full dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg just now :)	08:47
vzduch	but.. can someone do me a favour & google for the hfreq and vfreq values for a Samsung SyncMaster 913B? I didn't write those down :(	08:48
Admiral_Chicago	vzduch: sure	08:48
intelikey	is there a script i need to run after hpkg -i libdvdcss* ?	08:49
vzduch	why did you install via dpkg in the first place? libdvdcss2 is in the repos	08:50
intelikey	doesn't look like there was...	08:50
kraut	moin	08:50
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Admiral_Chicago	intelikey: its on the restricted formats wiki	08:53
Admiral_Chicago	!restricted	08:53
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	08:53
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icecruncher	help, my cdrom drive won't work	08:54
icecruncher	this on a satellite pro, not the one I'm using right now	08:55
intelikey	Admiral_Chicago what is ? whether or not there is a script ???	08:55
icecruncher	I can't enable the drive bacause it isn't found in Disks & Filesystms	08:56
Admiral_Chicago	vzduch: Max Sync Rate (V x H): 75 Hz x 81 kHz	08:56
Admiral_Chicago	intelikey: you have to run a script to get and install the library	08:56
intelikey	Admiral_Chicago i already installed it...	08:57
Admiral_Chicago	sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh	08:58
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vzduch	Admiral_Chicago: thx m8	08:58
vzduch	another thing.. why is it that kernel upgrade can only seem to be done via adept-manager? apt-get told me they were held back	08:58
vbgunz	I just plugged in a sony video camcorder that usually gets picked up automatically. for some reason it is not being picked up at all now... I booted the system without it attached, could this have something to do with it?	09:00
icecruncher	vzduch: I just pasted the names of the held back ones in to sudo apt-get install <names> it worked for me	09:01
intelikey	Admiral_Chicago hehhe i guess that was the script i was thinking of but i don't have any such thing and it wouldn't do any good if i did... but i already installed libdvdcss2 so moot point.	09:01
intelikey	Admiral_Chicago thanks for the heads up on it tho.	09:01
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intelikey	vzduch apt-get dist-upgrade	09:03
vzduch	intelikey: why dist-upgrade? pretty useless for a fresh Feisty install, /me thinks ;)	09:03
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vzduch	anyway, I got the kernel upgraded, going to reboot	09:04
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intelikey	<vzduch> another thing.. why is it that kernel upgrade can only seem to be done via adept-manager? apt-get told me they were held back <<<< that yelds this >>>> <intelikey> vzduch apt-get dist-upgrade	09:04
intelikey	useless you say ? heh then don't complain about the kernel being held back.	09:05
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PrabuMahaAnu	!kernel	09:05
ubotu	kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel. You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild	09:05
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downstairs	this is cool sorry for the main post just new to it all	09:10
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fritz	my windows xp service pack 2 won't connect 2 the internet. a;though in control panel i checked and the connection is good, even ran a cmd ipconfig and got a network adress...so i'm quite puzzled why it doesen't connect	09:16
Jucato	fritz: this isn't really the place for that question...	09:16
fritz	i asked on the windows	09:17
fritz	support irc channel	09:17
fritz	and got no response	09:17
fritz	and i figured people here are better and could help me	09:17
Jucato	that doesn't make #kubuntu the correct place to ask.	09:17
Jucato	keep on trying and wait for an answer in ##windows or whatever channel	09:18
fritz	8-\|	09:18
fritz	k	09:18
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intelikey	fritz better or not, i don't do windows and wouldn't know how to help you with it.	09:18
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rathel	Can anyone recomend any websites or books for getting started in shell scripting?	09:19
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intelikey	!cli	09:19
ubotu	The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal	09:19
ardchoille	rathel: http://www.cyberciti.biz/nixcraft/linux/docs/uniqlinuxfeatures/lsst/	09:19
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intelikey	rathel nd #bash	09:19
Jucato	rathel: some from here too http://www.tldp.org/guides.html	09:20
rathel	Okay, thanks will check those out.	09:20
intelikey	yeah tldp is your friend	09:21
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rathel	Thank ya, bookmarking to check out tomorrow.	09:21
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tmske	Is it ok to ask questions about ntfs-3g here, (I don't think it is a basic question) or is there a channel for it?	09:22
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daftman	does anyone have problem running wine application that use directsound? my application crash if I choose alsa or oss	09:37
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daftman	e.g if I don't select any sound drivers, GuildWars and Warcraft 3 run fine. with a sound driver, they both crash	09:38
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AutoMatriX	Hi folks	09:46
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[nige]	anyone having problems with knetworkmanger?	09:49
[nige]	it doesnt seem to send hostname properly	09:49
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[nige]	!knetworkmanger	09:50
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about knetworkmanger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:50
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root	hi to all	09:51
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[nige]	root, you shouldnt be root :P	09:52
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root	somebody can tell me how "migrate"the user from red hat to ubuntu?	09:53
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root	somebody can tell me how "migrate"the user from red hat to ubuntu?	09:58
eagles0513875	how do i fix a really slow internet connection	09:58
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mat1980	eagles0513875: change provider ;) be more verbose	09:59
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mat1980	root: what's the problem on migrating user form red hat to ubuntu?	10:01
biotrox	ones is rpm base	10:01
biotrox	kubuntu is debian base	10:01
biotrox	:P	10:01
biotrox	that's the problem	10:01
biotrox	yes	10:01
eagles0513875	!internet	10:01
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	10:01
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root	i would know if it's only re-create the user on ubuntu, copy the directory from home and var/spool.. and the passwd file?	10:02
biotrox	what must i use xgl or aigxl for my riva tnt2	10:02
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biotrox	????	10:02
eagles0513875	biotrox: i think its xgl go into adept and type in nvidia	10:03
biotrox	so i cant use xgl for my riva tnt2	10:03
biotrox	can't or can..?	10:03
biotrox	!XGL	10:04
ubotu	Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects	10:04
eagles0513875	!aiglx	10:04
ubotu	AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl	10:04
eagles0513875	biotrox: seems like u have to use xgl	10:04
PrabuMahaAnu	!beryl	10:05
ubotu	beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects	10:05
eagles0513875	!compiz	10:05
ubotu	Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects	10:05
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biotrox	if i use xgl	10:06
biotrox	than i can use beryl ..?	10:07
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eagles0513875	not sure	10:07
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biotrox	how to install xgl..?	10:07
eagles0513875	all u have to do is download the binary from the repository or from nvidias website	10:07
eagles0513875	and then type in sudo bash then the name of the binary	10:08
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icecruncher	eagles0513875: for your speed up internet question http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6841.html	10:08
eagles0513875	ty ice.	10:08
Ubuntu-Craft	who?	10:09
eagles0513875	im just starting to wonder if its my isp's problem	10:09
eagles0513875	cucz up until this am it was working fine	10:09
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eagles0513875	icecruncher: what i dont get is y all of a sudden my connection would slow tremendously	10:10
icecruncher	isp probably	10:11
eagles0513875	seems like its back to normal lol	10:11
eagles0513875	same guess i had	10:11
eagles0513875	goign to eamil that link to myself another useful thing for my simplified kubuntu how to's	10:12
eagles0513875	lol	10:12
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Kprofthrea1	Hi all. I recently added a secondary slave IDE hdd and am trying to mount it. I successfully edited my fstab (it seems) and can now see it. But when I click on it to open the drive, it says "You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hdd1	10:14
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Admiral_Chicago	Kprofthrea1: you need to mount user=077 in the options	10:14
eagles0513875	i know it has to do with editing the permissions of the drive but not sure how lol	10:14
Admiral_Chicago	like user=0777,rw,sync	10:14
Admiral_Chicago	or whatever that is	10:14
Admiral_Chicago	might be rw	10:15
Admiral_Chicago	whatever	10:15
Admiral_Chicago	Kprofthrea1: paste that line in the channel of your fstab to me	10:15
eagles0513875	isnt thatcommand chmod	10:15
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Kprofthrea1	Admiral_Chicago: /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd1 ntfs defaults 0 0	10:15
Admiral_Chicago	eagles0513875: thats for modifying ownership of files	10:16
eagles0513875	Kprofthrea1: u need to download ntfs-3g	10:16
eagles0513875	sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g	10:16
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Admiral_Chicago	not really	10:16
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Kprofthreat	That's for writing to NTFS, ain't it?	10:16
Admiral_Chicago	Kprofthreat: are you trying to write to your NTFS or just read?	10:16
Kprofthreat	I don't really need to do that.	10:16
Kprofthreat	Read	10:16
Admiral_Chicago	/dev/hdd1 / media/hdd1 ntfs user=0777,rw,sync 0 0	10:17
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Admiral_Chicago	you may want to do vol_id /dev/hdd1	10:17
Admiral_Chicago	and change the /dev/hdd1 to UUID=whateverthevolidwas	10:18
Admiral_Chicago	much cleaner upgrades to new kernels	10:18
Kprofthreat	[mntent] : line 18 in /etc/fstab is bad	10:18
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biotrox	!masturbate	10:19
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about masturbate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	10:19
Kprofthreat	...	10:19
eagles0513875	!clean	10:19
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about clean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	10:19
eagles0513875	lol	10:19
biotrox	!cum	10:19
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about cum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	10:19
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MilhousePunkRock	!language	10:20
ubotu	Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.	10:20
MilhousePunkRock	!ops	10:20
ubotu	Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato, haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!	10:20
Kprofthreat	..	10:20
Kprofthreat	!ops	10:20
Kprofthreat	Eh, already done.	10:20
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MilhousePunkRock	Hobbsee: :)	10:20
Kprofthreat	Look, it's Hobbs	10:20
Kprofthreat	Anyway, [mntent] : line 18 in /etc/fstab is bad	10:20
Hobbsee	crazy loon...	10:20
Hobbsee	hiya MilhousePunkRock, Kprofthreat	10:20
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Admiral_Chicago	Kprofthreat: pastebin your fstab	10:21
Kprofthreat	http://www.pastebin.ca/591551	10:22
Admiral_Chicago	Hobbsee: but that guy was soo last person was so cool..	10:22
Admiral_Chicago	Hobbsee: i meant to say "that last guy was cool, why did you kick him	10:22
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Admiral_Chicago	damn my typing skills are bad at this time	10:22
Kprofthreat	Lol	10:23
Kprofthreat	He was typing sexual terms in factoid search	10:23
Admiral_Chicago	I know, i'm kidding Kprofthreat	10:23
Hobbsee	Admiral_Chicago: not if he couldnt be sensible.	10:23
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Kprofthreat	I sense trouble again	10:23
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Admiral_Chicago	Kprofthreat: okay, i made a mistake	10:26
Admiral_Chicago	you are supposed to use umask=0777 iirc	10:26
Admiral_Chicago	!umask	10:26
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	10:26
Kprofthreat	!info umask	10:26
ubotu	Package umask does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas	10:26
Kprofthreat	Eh	10:26
Kprofthreat	That's funny in a way	10:27
Admiral_Chicago	Kprofthreat: from the looks of it, isn't the mount /media/sda1 what you want?	10:27
Kprofthreat	No, that's my main partition	10:27
Kprofthreat	Er, main drive	10:27
Kprofthreat	My sata	10:27
Admiral_Chicago	Kprofthreat: that is also ntfs and readable?	10:27
Kprofthreat	Yes, it is.	10:27
Admiral_Chicago	okay. do this...	10:28
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Admiral_Chicago	wha is the uuid of this command: "sudo vol_id /dev/hdd1"	10:29
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Kprofthreat	6460861C6085F558	10:30
Admiral_Chicago	http://www.pastebin.ca/591562	10:30
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Kprofthreat	[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab	10:31
Kprofthreat	[mntent] : line 18 in /etc/fstab is bad	10:31
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insmod	<Kprofthreat>add <enter> at the end	10:32
Admiral_Chicago	what command are you running	10:32
Kprofthreat	sudo mount -a	10:33
insmod	<Kprofthreat> or echo >> /etc/fstab	10:33
Kprofthreat	Got no error msg that time	10:33
MilhousePunkRock	Can someone sum up the differences between ext2 and ext3 in a few sentences?	10:33
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Admiral_Chicago	!fstab	10:33
ubotu	The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions	10:33
Kprofthreat	Ext 2, slower, Ext 3 faster	10:33
eagles0513875	rnt they in the works of making an ext4 fs	10:34
Kprofthreat	Most people don't use ext2 file systems anymore.	10:34
Admiral_Chicago	Kprofthreat: cool, check the files now	10:34
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eagles0513875	!ext4	10:34
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ext4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	10:34
Kprofthreat	I still get the error message	10:34
Kprofthreat	Oddly enough	10:34
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Kprofthreat	I could try rebooting	10:34
eagles0513875	Kprofthreat: wait	10:34
zorglu_	!upgrade	10:34
ubotu	See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)	10:34
insmod	<Milhousnd then ext3 -- nopeePunkRock> ext2 is non journal wich means it need to be fixed and defragged now a	10:34
eagles0513875	have u shutdown ur windows partition incorrectly	10:34
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Admiral_Chicago	Kprofthreat: rebooting won't help	10:35
Admiral_Chicago	Kprofthreat: give me a sec	10:35
Kprofthreat	No. This drive just has files, not Windows	10:35
eagles0513875	if u have ur goign to need to run chkdsk on ur windows partition then once that is done boot into it once and see if that helps at all	10:35
eagles0513875	ahhhh ok	10:35
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addyk	Hello! kubuntu:)	10:35
addyk	eagles0513875: Does ext4 exist?	10:36
eagles0513875	Kprofthreat: do u plan on whiping that partition and reformating it with one that linux will understand	10:36
insmod	MilhousePunkRock, ext2 is non journal wich means it need to be fixed and defragged now and ext3 no	10:36
Kprofthreat	Yes	10:36
Kprofthreat	How'd ya guess	10:36
Kprofthreat	=P	10:36
eagles0513875	lol	10:36
eagles0513875	i think they r developing one addyk	10:37
Admiral_Chicago	try http://www.pastebin.ca/591578	10:37
Kprofthreat	I actually plan on putting Gentoo on it	10:37
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addyk	OK thanks eagles0513875 :)	10:37
eagles0513875	Kprofthreat: then i would try ntfs-3g	10:37
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eagles0513875	addyk let me look up something	10:37
Admiral_Chicago	Kprofthreat: also, the UUID needs the dashes, did you remove them?	10:37
addyk	OK.	10:37
MilhousePunkRock	Kprofthreat: Good luck with that... make sure you read the handbook properly!	10:37
eagles0513875	addykhttp://www.bullopensource.org/ext4/	10:37
eagles0513875	addyk: http://www.bullopensource.org/ext4/	10:38
eagles0513875	lol	10:38
eagles0513875	!kernel	10:38
ubotu	kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel. You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild	10:38
Kprofthreat	Oh, it does?	10:38
addyk	OK :)	10:38
Kprofthreat	Ok then, I'll have to readd	10:38
addyk	Huh? Firefox doesn't come with kubuntu?	10:38
ardchoille	No	10:39
eagles0513875	sudo apt-get install firefox addyk	10:39
Kprofthreat	MilhousePunkRock: I actually heard the install is a lot easier now. I plan to do a stage 3 since the others aren't supported anymore	10:39
eagles0513875	addyk the thing wiht kubuntu is that it allows u to install stuff u use or need not a whole lot of other junk that is what makes it a vry user friendly and vry customizable linux distro	10:40
addyk	I know I know... :D eagles0513875 I'm using kubuntu installation CD now...	10:40
eagles0513875	lol	10:40
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eagles0513875	oh	10:40
eagles0513875	u new to kubuntu addyk	10:40
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MilhousePunkRock	Kprofthreat: I installed my gentoo before 2007.0, possibly it's easier now. In general, gentoo is rather for the advanced user... And I think you should go through the pain of manually setting it up...	10:40
addyk	And I wanted to install and use firefox too :D	10:40
Kprofthreat	Just cause you did, eh?	10:40
Kprofthreat	Lol	10:41
addyk	Kinda... :) I had it once ... forgot it didn't have firefox :)	10:41
eagles0513875	lol	10:41
Kprofthreat	Lol, that's what initially caught my eye	10:41
MilhousePunkRock	addyk: That's "sudo apt-get install firefox" on a shell	10:41
zorglu_	somebody has to debug khtml	10:41
Kprofthreat	Oh, and Admiral_Chicago, no dashes in the UUID to begin w/	10:41
eagles0513875	ya that is on shell forgot to tell u that	10:41
Ubuntu-Craft	;)	10:41
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addyk	I've just upgraded my PC and wanted to test the composite thingie .... the one with transparency :)	10:42
eagles0513875	lol with a name like that Ubuntu-Craft im guessing u play WoW	10:42
eagles0513875	u mean this one	10:42
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addyk	I figured MilhousePunkRock :) Thanks :D	10:42
eagles0513875	!beryl \| addyk	10:42
ubotu	addyk: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects	10:42
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Kprofthreat	Lol, WoW...what a joke.	10:43
eagles0513875	u mean that one addyk	10:43
eagles0513875	whats is a joke about it	10:43
addyk	OOOOOK YAHOO :)	10:43
eagles0513875	lol	10:43
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Kprofthreat	Well, there's an equal chance he plays SC	10:43
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Kprofthreat	After all..SC2 =]	10:43
addyk	I knew only about kde composite...	10:43
eagles0513875	addyk i have something that will help u set that up	10:43
addyk	it was something in the kde control panel	10:43
eagles0513875	addyk before i forget what kinda video card do u have	10:43
addyk	dcc send it pls :D	10:43
addyk	i915	10:44
eagles0513875	intel	10:44
addyk	Yup :)	10:44
eagles0513875	type this in the shell glxinfo	10:44
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eagles0513875	and then scroll all the way to the top and look at direct rendering	10:44
addyk	OK... w8 a sec	10:44
Admiral_Chicago	okay Kprofthreat	10:44
eagles0513875	k	10:44
Kprofthreat	Admiral, there were no dashes in the UUID	10:45
Admiral_Chicago	Kprofthreat: did you apply my changes/	10:45
Admiral_Chicago	did that work	10:45
addyk	I have direct rendering :) direct rendering: yes	10:45
Kprofthreat	The latest pastebin?	10:46
Kprofthreat	Yeah	10:46
addyk	eagles0513875: Yes :)	10:46
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MANU_	..	10:46
Admiral_Chicago	Kprofthreat: so it works?	10:47
Admiral_Chicago	sweet	10:47
Admiral_Chicago	i'm off to bed	10:47
eagles0513875	direct rendering is enabled then addyk	10:47
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eagles0513875	that is good	10:47
eagles0513875	makes things a whole lot easier	10:47
eagles0513875	once u have kubuntu installed let me know	10:47
Kprofthreat	The fstab works, but the drive still doesn't open.	10:47
Kprofthreat	There were no dashes in my UUID	10:47
Kprofthreat	=/	10:47
Admiral_Chicago	crap.	10:47
eagles0513875	and ur not on the live cd	10:48
Admiral_Chicago	Kprofthreat: can you ping me about this in the morning, its close to 4am here	10:48
addyk	I'm on the instalation CD no?	10:48
eagles0513875	Admiral_Chicago: if he tries ntfs-3g he could pull the files then he can reformat the partition woudl that work	10:48
Kprofthreat	If I'm up	10:48
eagles0513875	u rnt goign to install it	10:48
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eagles0513875	Kprofthreat: try the ntfs-3g pkg and see if that helps	10:49
Kprofthreat	Ok	10:49
Kprofthreat	sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g right?	10:49
eagles0513875	rnt u wanting to pull the files from that partition onto this partition so taht u can reformat it	10:49
eagles0513875	yep	10:49
eagles0513875	then once that is installed let me know	10:49
Kprofthreat	Yeah	10:50
eagles0513875	then ntfs-3g is ur best bet	10:50
eagles0513875	cuz u want read write access so taht way u dont have to copy and paste stuff u just drag the stuff off of that partition	10:50
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Kprofthreat	Setting up ntfs-3g (1.328-1) ...	10:51
Kprofthreat	Setting ntfs-3g suid root with group fuse...done	10:51
Kprofthreat	Users from 'fuse' group can now mount NTFS volume.	10:51
eagles0513875	then wait before doign that	10:52
eagles0513875	open up the fstab	10:52
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eagles0513875	and where it says ntfs add the -3g at the end	10:52
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eagles0513875	umount it then mount it again	10:52
eagles0513875	did that make any sense lol	10:52
Kprofthreat	We'll see in a few secs	10:53
eagles0513875	ok	10:53
Kprofthreat	Still no	10:53
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Kprofthreat	I COULD go into my Windows partition	10:53
eagles0513875	did u add the 3g in the fstab	10:53
Kprofthreat	Yes	10:53
Kprofthreat	And then rip it onto Windows	10:53
eagles0513875	did u sudo into it	10:53
Kprofthreat	And go through Linux	10:54
Kprofthreat	Yes	10:54
eagles0513875	ok	10:54
Kprofthreat	In fact, I think I probably will do that.	10:54
Kprofthreat	Save me a headache	10:54
eagles0513875	did u sudo umount /dev/name of drive	10:54
eagles0513875	sda1 or hda1 for ex	10:54
Kprofthreat	Yes	10:55
eagles0513875	then try mount it	10:55
Kprofthreat	I already did. It still gives me that error	10:55
MilhousePunkRock	Kprofthreat: What error?	10:55
eagles0513875	ok then in the shell type in fsck /dev/name of partition	10:55
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Kprofthreat	fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)	10:56
Kprofthreat	fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found	10:56
Kprofthreat	fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/hdd1	10:56
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Kprofthreat	Well, while I appreciate the help, I'm going to see if I can get this system thingy to work.	10:58
Kprofthreat	I'll just do the workaround	10:58
Kprofthreat	Much less hassle	10:58
Kprofthreat	But thx anyway for the efforts	10:58
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tacklebox	Question: I just installed Kubuntu (using the desktop installer cd). The only problem is that whenever I try to actually boot the OS, it freezes up and the monitor goes to standby. Also, the scroll lock and caps lock keys start flashing on and off. Anyone know of a way to fix this?	11:01
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tacklebox	I'll take that as a "No"...	11:04
Hobbsee	*anyone interested in testing some kubuntu tribe 2 candidate gutsy cds please private message me**	11:05
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addyk	is edgy old?	11:07
fritz	GOING MAD HERE!!!..ANY1 help me with my internet connection with windows?	11:07
addyk	windows???	11:07
fritz	ups	11:07
yeniklasor	Do you know any program to select an area of the screen then zoom (fullscreen) it ?	11:07
fritz	sorry	11:07
fritz	wrong channel:)	11:07
addyk	fritz: are you connecting with a local area network?	11:08
fritz	yea	11:08
eagles0513875	addyk its the last release	11:08
eagles0513875	feisty is the latest	11:08
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addyk	OK... but it's not ready yet? eagles0513875	11:08
eagles0513875	installing	11:09
ardchoille	yeniklasor: kmagnifier can magnify part of the screen and let you specify how much magnification	11:09
eagles0513875	what u mean addyk	11:09
addyk	fritz: then it means it should connect automatically unless you have to set IPs	11:09
eagles0513875	hobsee i just pmed ya	11:09
fritz	dunno what's wrong with it	11:09
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fritz	when i look in control panel	11:09
fritz	everything seems ok	11:09
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fritz	i run a ipconfig	11:09
addyk	OK... eagles0513875 I wanted to know where is edgy situated... you said it's the last release?	11:10
fritz	and get a network adress	11:10
yeniklasor	ardchoille : thanks	11:10
fritz	try to ping..doesen't work	11:10
fritz	...	11:10
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fritz	:((	11:10
ardchoille	yeniklasor: kmag is part of kdeutils	11:10
ubuntu__	hi guys	11:10
ubuntu__	i need help	11:10
eagles0513875	its the relaease before feisty	11:10
addyk	Hmm... ipconfig is something you need to do? fritz I mean...	11:10
eagles0513875	feisty came out back in april	11:10
ubuntu__	i have installed kubuntu but i cant boot without cd	11:10
addyk	OK :)	11:10
addyk	Thanks eagles0513875	11:10
ubuntu__	i have windows mandriva in sata drive and now kubuntu in ide drive	11:11
ubuntu__	but i cant boot into kubuntu without cd	11:11
addyk	fritz: I mean... when I ran windows I didn't have to do anything...	11:11
ubuntu__	how can i make a triple boot menu with grub_	11:11
tacklebox	ubuntu__, I have the same problem; don't think anyone here knows how to fix it.	11:12
zorglu_	ok adept is doing coredump when i try to upgrade to feisty, what should i do ?	11:12
ubuntu__	so how do u boot-	11:12
ubuntu__	do u use always a cd_	11:12
tacklebox	I just installed it about an hour ago.	11:12
tacklebox	So, yeah.	11:12
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tacklebox	Does your's freeze up whenever you try to boot normally?	11:13
ubuntu__	nope	11:13
eagles0513875	ubuntu__: what u mean all u have to do is install the 3rd os	11:13
eagles0513875	and it automatically adds it to grub	11:14
ubuntu__	nope	11:14
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ubuntu__	it didnt	11:14
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astan	hm. when i insert an SD card the first time, everything works fine and i'm asked by KDE what i want to do.. but the second time, nothing happens.. anyone know why?	11:16
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astan	dmesg seems quiet when i insert it the second time..	11:18
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astan	ah. nevermind, it was just a glitch in the micro-SD->SD converter i have..	11:24
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eagles0513875	anyone else testing out gutsy tribe 2	11:27
eagles0513875	!sourceomatic	11:27
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	11:27
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fritz	can you offer a little help with	11:29
fritz	setting up a theme?	11:29
eagles0513875	!theme	11:30
ubotu	Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy	11:30
eagles0513875	!changethemes	11:30
ubotu	To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy. Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.	11:30
eagles0513875	can anyone tell me where the repositories list is saved	11:30
Jucato	/etc/apt/sources.list	11:30
eagles0513875	ty	11:30
eagles0513875	how do i back up the list	11:30
Jucato	sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup	11:31
astan	hm. i'm looking at a directory in konq and would like previews (like the first frame of video), i've increased the max size for previews in konq settings, and i'm in icon view.. but still no previews.. just icons for "video"..	11:31
eagles0513875	ty	11:31
fritz	http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/NuoveXT+Theme?content=60895	11:31
fritz	i want to install that theme	11:31
fritz	and there are instructions	11:32
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fritz	but they're not qute good...	11:32
Jucato	!changethemes \| fritz	11:32
ubotu	fritz: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy. Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.	11:32
Jucato	fritz: the last link ^^^	11:32
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Jucato	astan: "Video thumbnails in Konqueror -- install libarts1-xine. You can turn this functionality on and off through Konqueror's menu View->Preview->Video files."	11:33
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eagles0513875	mornign jucato	11:34
Jucato	good afternoon to you, too	11:35
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astan	Jucato: thanks a bunch, works great!	11:35
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Jucato	ok	11:35
addyk	eagles0513875: I have finished installing...	11:35
addyk	How do I set beryl?	11:36
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t1g3r	hey all	11:36
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jussi01	hmmm, can i burn the install cd iso to a dvd with no probs?	11:36
eagles0513875	have u restarted ur comp	11:36
addyk	hey t1g3r	11:36
eagles0513875	jussi01: use k3b	11:36
eagles0513875	hey t1g3r	11:36
addyk	Well after installing yeah :)	11:36
eagles0513875	ok	11:36
t1g3r	any idea how to install the libdvdcss2 package in kubuntu? thing is i dont have a conection on there so i downloaded the package from the webpages	11:36
eagles0513875	addyk is ur name registered	11:37
t1g3r	sudo apt-get tries to get it from online	11:37
Jucato	!libdvdcss2	11:37
ubotu	For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs	11:37
t1g3r	i just wanna install it like u do in windows	11:37
addyk	Yes eagles0513875	11:37
eagles0513875	may i pm	11:37
jussi01	t1g3r: is it a deb?	11:37
t1g3r	sure	11:37
addyk	Yes :)	11:37
t1g3r	um i downladed the deb and the tar as well	11:37
Jucato	!deb	11:37
ubotu	deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)	11:37
t1g3r	ah sweet	11:37
eagles0513875	addyk u need to /msg the nick serv and identify urself	11:37
addyk	I did that :)	11:37
eagles0513875	u did i just sent u pm	11:38
astan	hm. when i do the "safe removal" thing with my SD card, i get a warning that the operation was successful, but that the media could not be ejected.. that is pretty obvious since it's an SD card pushed into my built-in reader.. anyone know how i can get rid of that warning message?	11:38
eagles0513875	ahhh my fault	11:38
t1g3r	thanks folks ill bbl	11:38
addyk	-NickServ- You have already identified	11:38
addyk	A OK :D	11:38
icecruncher	eagles0513875: me too	11:39
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eagles0513875	?	11:39
eagles0513875	what ice u want help installing beryl	11:40
icecruncher	eagles0513875: sorry lol no, as in testing	11:40
eagles0513875	u have to talk to hobbsee she hooked me up but she isnt on dude	11:41
eagles0513875	im goign to be helping test the 64bit version of gutsy	11:41
icecruncher	eagles0513875: hooked up already	11:41
eagles0513875	u r	11:41
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icecruncher	alternate for pc	11:42
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eagles0513875	kool	11:42
eagles0513875	desktop for amd64	11:42
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eagles0513875	lol i have to say even though i am not taking fully advantage of the 64bit capabilites i love the performance gain u get with a 64bit os	11:43
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icecruncher	haha, wish i had a 64	11:43
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eagles0513875	i have one here in my laptop and also in my desktop	11:44
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eagles0513875	how do i add an icon to the k menu	11:49
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eagles0513875	nm i got it	11:49
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Jucato	!away > Indice	11:56
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zorglu_	q. is there some way to disable a 'service' ? i would like to stop lighttpd to start when i boot the computer	12:00
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eagles0513875	guys take a look at this	12:00
eagles0513875	http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/	12:00
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eagles0513875	reverse engineered broadcom wifi driver lol	12:01
velo\|gfx	hiho!	12:01
eagles0513875	going to give it to hobsee and she will forward it hopefully to be added to the gutsy release	12:01
velo\|gfx	question: is there a possibility to update 6.06 to 7.04 from a dvd?	12:01
eagles0513875	ya	12:01
eagles0513875	wait	12:01
eagles0513875	not that i know of	12:01
eagles0513875	the only way to do that would be to add the feisty repositories and delete the repositories of the version u currently have	12:02
eagles0513875	then do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	12:02
eagles0513875	velo\|gfx: did that make any sense	12:03
velo\|gfx	problem is ive installed 6.06 and do have a wireless card with broadcom chipset... well and it doesnt work	12:03
velo\|gfx	so= no internet / no update	12:03
velo\|gfx	i thought that it is possible to update it form dvd	12:05
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zorglu_	velo\|gfx: i think there is a way to update from cd	12:05
velo\|gfx	how?	12:05
zorglu_	velo\|gfx: let me find a page	12:05
velo\|gfx	THX!	12:05
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sweettooth	hey guys, i have moved from xp to kubuntu and so far it has been really great	12:06
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zorglu_	velo\|gfx: i dont find it... but i have seen this	12:06
sweettooth	but i am wondering if there is any kinda software like the yahoo widgets i can use in Kubuntu?	12:06
velo\|gfx	mhhhh :(	12:07
Hoyt	is it possible to resize partitions with feisty partitioning tool?	12:07
ardchoille	sweettooth: Is that anything like superkaramba?	12:07
zorglu_	velo\|gfx: stick around	12:07
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sweettooth	ardchoille, arha, that looks nice	12:08
sweettooth	i heard kde is gonna port dashboard (from Mac) to linux, wonder if that is true?	12:09
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ardchoille	sweettooth: If you use it, have a look at http://www.kde-look.org for tons of karamba themes	12:09
zorglu_	velo\|gfx: ok this is around the tool apt-cdrom	12:09
velo\|gfx	mhm	12:10
velo\|gfx	apt-cdrom	12:10
sweettooth	ardchoille, that's cool, cheers m8	12:10
ardchoille	:)	12:11
zorglu_	http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-2.html#comment-3001 <- velo\|gfx look at this	12:11
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zorglu_	velo\|gfx: then google a lot, you are on your own :)	12:11
velo\|gfx	th!	12:11
Maxdamantus	Anyone compiled XChat on Kubuntu before?	12:11
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Maxdamantus	Doesn't like my GLib.	12:12
eagles0513875	!fluxbox	12:12
ubotu	fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox	12:12
ardchoille	Maxdamantus: Do you really need to compile? xchat is in the repos.	12:12
Maxdamantus	I do need to compile if I want to modify the source. :P	12:12
ardchoille	Ok	12:12
Maxdamantus	First it complained about the glib that aptitude installed for me.	12:13
Maxdamantus	Then I manually installed the latest version, and it doesn't like having both.	12:13
Jucato	uh oh....	12:13
Jucato	!info glib	12:14
ubotu	Package glib does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas	12:14
zorglu_	!info glib2	12:14
ubotu	Package glib2 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas	12:14
zorglu_	hue	12:14
Jucato	try not to mess with libc/glibc packages...	12:14
Maxdamantus	glibc-2.5.0-0exp1 glibc-2.5.0-0exp2 glibc-doc glibc-doc-reference glibc-pic glib-java	12:14
Maxdamantus	:d	12:14
zorglu_	!info libglib2.0-0	12:14
ubotu	libglib2.0-0: The GLib library of C routines. In component main, is optional. Version 2.12.11-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 509 kB, installed size 1104 kB	12:15
zorglu_	there! :)	12:15
Jucato	heh :)	12:15
Maxdamantus	Hmm.. When I try removing that, it asks me if I want to remove.. Pretty much everything.	12:16
Maxdamantus	No, not quite everything.	12:16
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Maxdamantus	Just about 100 lines or so.	12:16
Maxdamantus	1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 436 to remove and 44 not upgraded.	12:16
Maxdamantus	Need to get 0B/2105kB of archives.	12:16
Maxdamantus	After unpacking 2011MB disk space will be freed.	12:16
Jucato	what I was afraid of...	12:16
Maxdamantus	[root@maxdamantus (/download/xchat-2.8.2)] $ pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0	12:17
Maxdamantus	2.12.9	12:17
Maxdamantus	^^ That's what XChat doesn't like.	12:17
sweettooth	!dvdrip	12:17
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdrip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:17
Maxdamantus	Because that outputs 2.12.9, while it's actually 2.12.11	12:17
sweettooth	!info dvdrip	12:17
ubotu	dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1083 kB, installed size 2572 kB	12:17
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Jucato	Maxdamantus: try asking in #ubuntu maybe someone there would know better (given xchat isn't a KDE app...)	12:18
Maxdamantus	I'd think that maybe it wouldn't be so much of a problem in Ubuntu.	12:18
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Maxdamantus	Since Ubuntu is GNOME, which is GTK based.	12:18
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Jucato	but you are trying to compile something not in the repository, and it's complaining about a package version from the repository, so that would still be a problem	12:19
velo\|gfx	ho	12:21
eagles0513875	!sourceomatic	12:22
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	12:22
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icecruncher	how can i virtualize an iso?	12:24
icecruncher	as in make the computer think a cd is in, you know virtual drive	12:25
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sonoftheclayr	icecruncher: like mount an iso?	12:25
icecruncher	yes	12:25
Maxdamantus	icecruncher, what's the point of pretending it's a device?	12:25
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icecruncher	in win, you call it virtual drive	12:25
Maxdamantus	mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /path/to/mount	12:25
icecruncher	thnks	12:26
Maxdamantus	I think.	12:26
eagles0513875	does anyone in here work for canonical	12:27
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icecruncher	nd to make them is how?	12:27
Maxdamantus	Make what?	12:27
icecruncher	iso	12:27
Maxdamantus	Hmm..	12:27
Maxdamantus	I believe you can use k3m	12:27
eagles0513875	cant u make isos in k3b	12:27
Maxdamantus	k3b I mean	12:27
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velo\|gfx	no solution found with the allotted time.try harder [y/n] <- whats that??	12:27
icecruncher	ah	12:27
Jucato	!iso \| icecruncher	12:27
ubotu	icecruncher: To mount an ISO disc image, type sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.	12:27
tacklebox	Hmm, is there a way to change the resolution before booting?	12:28
tacklebox	Screen res, that is.	12:28
icecruncher	thnks Jucato :)	12:28
tacklebox	As there is with the bootable disc.	12:28
Maxdamantus	tacklebox, if the monitor in peripherals doesn't change the default.	12:28
Maxdamantus	You can edit /etc/xorg/xorg.conf	12:28
velo\|gfx	somebody know what that is?:no solution found with the allotted time.try harder [y/n]	12:28
Maxdamantus	Or whatever the file's called.	12:28
tacklebox	Well see, I'm having problems booting from the installation.	12:29
tacklebox	And am currently booted from cd.	12:29
tacklebox	In order even to boot from cd, I have to change the resolution from VGA to my monitor's native resolution.	12:29
tacklebox	So I'd have to change it at from the boot menu, yes?	12:30
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Maxdamantus	Do you mean screen resolution as in:	12:30
crdlb	!away > jsk-away	12:30
Maxdamantus	1024x768, 1280x1024, etc?	12:30
tacklebox	Yes	12:30
Maxdamantus	So you're on the LiveCD atm?	12:30
tacklebox	Yes	12:30
Maxdamantus	"sudo -s" in a terminal.	12:31
Maxdamantus	Then mount the root fs of your install.	12:31
tacklebox	How do I go about doing that?	12:31
Maxdamantus	Then from inside the fs you mounted, nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf	12:31
Maxdamantus	Hmm.. How many partitions do you have?	12:31
tacklebox	Several	12:32
Maxdamantus	Do you know which one contains the Kubuntu install?	12:32
tacklebox	One is Windows, one is for swap, and one for the install	12:32
eagles0513875	max cant he check using fdisk -l	12:32
tacklebox	I can find out the exact name with the partition program, yeah?	12:32
eagles0513875	tackle i think in shell u can use fdisk -l to check	12:32
Maxdamantus	Yea, just use fdisk -l	12:33
tacklebox	Yeah, that works.	12:33
Maxdamantus	The correct one will probably have a star on it.	12:33
Maxdamantus	Like:	12:33
Maxdamantus	/dev/sda1 * 1 8993 72236241 83 Linux	12:33
tacklebox	Hmm	12:33
Maxdamantus	Then "mkdir /mnt/tmp"	12:33
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tacklebox	My one with a star is my Windows install, is that okay?	12:33
Maxdamantus	And then, fine out the device name of the drive (/dev/sd**)	12:33
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tacklebox	Presumably since I installed it first	12:33
Maxdamantus	Nope.	12:34
Maxdamantus	Look for the one that says Linux	12:34
tacklebox	Yeah, I know that.	12:34
tacklebox	But it's okay that it doesn't have the star	12:34
Maxdamantus	Yea, shouldn't matter if you have it set up right.	12:34
Maxdamantus	It's the screen res you're having trouble with right? Not the booting of the kernel itself.	12:34
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tacklebox	Well, the kernel itself won't boot	12:35
tacklebox	But I'm guessing it's due to the screen res	12:35
tacklebox	Since I can't boot from cd without first changing the screen res	12:35
Maxdamantus	What happens when you try loading it?	12:35
tacklebox	It freezes up and the monitor goes to standby	12:35
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Maxdamantus	Hmm..	12:36
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Maxdamantus	Tried ctrl + alt + f1?	12:36
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zul_	alop	12:38
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ubuntu_	hi	12:41
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ports-	what program can i use to fix partition tables in kubuntu?	12:42
ardchoille	!qtparted	12:42
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:42
ardchoille	!partition	12:42
ubotu	Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter	12:42
ports-	right now i have 4 partitions on hdd0... its a 300 gb drive... and they total 430gb.	12:42
ports-	lol well qtparted failed... it crashed when trying to read the disks	12:43
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ardchoille	IT crashed?	12:47
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ardchoille	I've never seen an app crash on *buntu	12:47
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ports-	lol	12:51
ports-	well when it closes itself.. id call that a crash	12:51
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ardchoille	ports-: Run it from a term and see if there's any error output.	12:58
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fritz	please give me the webpage	12:58
fritz	for customizing kde again	12:58
fritz	:)	12:58
ports-	X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166	12:58
ports-	Major opcode: 144	12:58
ports-	Minor opcode: 3	12:58
ports-	Resource id: 0x0	12:58
ports-	Failed to open device	12:58
ardchoille	fritz: http://www.kde-look.org ?	12:59
ports-	oh joy... qtparted has no ntfs support	12:59
ardchoille	ports-: that has nothing to do with qtparted. that error is because xorg is trying to initialse wacom devices that you don't have. you can fix that easily by commenting out the wacom stuff in xorg.conf	12:59
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ardchoille	ports-: Ah, ok.. well, I have never used ntfs, so I don't know.	01:00
ports-	ardchoille: where do i edit xorg.conf	01:01
ports-	ardchoille: hdd1 is a sata 300gb.. i had 3 partitions. 100gb, 100gb, 80gb..	01:02
BlueDevil	while music is playing in amarok (using xine with alsa output) other programs can't output sound	01:02
BlueDevil	how can i "fix" it?	01:02
ports-	ardchoille: i ran a dual boot of vista and xp.... and i tossed in a xp cd to format the xp off last night.... and it deleted my partition tables.	01:02
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ardchoille	ports-: Yes, winblows doesn't play well with other OS's.	01:03
ports-	ive never had it wipe my partition tables	01:03
ports-	so now im trying to recover the 2nd 100gb partition... because it has a lot of my stuff for school which i really need	01:04
ardchoille	ports-: If you can pastebin your xorg.conf, I'll show you what to comment out to get rid of the baddevice error	01:04
ports-	http://rafb.net/p/VbY8Vo26.html	01:05
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ardchoille	ports-: Comment out lines 138, 139 and 140 in that paste.. then restart x and the errors should disappear.	01:06
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ports-	what do i comment with? #	01:07
ardchoille	yes	01:07
ports-	Error: Invalid partition table - recursive partition on /dev/sda.	01:08
ports-	A bug has been detected in GNU Parted. Refer to the web site of parted http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html for more informations of what could be useful for bug submitting! Please email a bug report to bug-parted@gnu.org containing at least the version (1.6.25.1) and the following message: Assertion (disk != NULL) at ../../libparted/disk.c:1074 in function ped_disk_next_partition() failed.	01:08
ports-	No Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.	01:08
ports-	Segmentation fault	01:08
eagles0513875	ports what u tryign to do wiht ur ntfs partition	01:09
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ubuntu_	Ugh, back.	01:13
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tacklebox	*	01:13
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logixoul	Hi. Is there a way to exchange the channels for the left and the right speaker, systemwide?	01:16
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eagles0513875	what u mean log	01:18
eagles0513875	logixoul: check in the mixer dude	01:18
eagles0513875	at the bottom there is one	01:18
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logixoul	eagles0513875: hm, no. KMix doesn't seem to have the option.	01:19
logixoul	there is a slider at the bottom, but it's for balance	01:19
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logixoul	what I want is: sent the signal for the left speaker to the right one and vice versa	01:20
eagles0513875	hummmm	01:20
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eagles0513875	have u taken a look in sound system in the system setting	01:21
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logixoul	eagles0513875: yes, it isn't there either :(	01:22
eagles0513875	:( i dunno waht to tell u dude	01:22
cathal	anyone know how to transfer mp3's from kbuntu to my iriver, iv tryed ifpgui but cant get it to pick up my iriver	01:22
eagles0513875	cathal: have u tried in amarok	01:22
eagles0513875	wait r u using feisty or edgy	01:22
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eagles0513875	how did u do that	01:23
eagles0513875	lol	01:23
eagles0513875	im using feisty x86_64	01:23
logixoul	how did I do what? :)	01:23
eagles0513875	where it says ur name in green then what ur using	01:24
logixoul	heh	01:24
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eagles0513875	how did u do that lol	01:24
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logixoul	you just write "/me is a skinny bastard"	01:24
logixoul	it's recognized by your client as an action	01:24
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logixoul	:p	01:24
=== eagles0513875 is running feisty x86_64 and downloading the packages for gutsy tribe2 to help with testing
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=== logixoul thinks that's enough /me for now
=== eagles0513875 is hoping i can get an internship with canonical since im a computer engineering major in university
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eagles0513875	log i know they have kde4 pkgs in the repository	01:26
ardchoille	*sich , time to drag out my ignore list	01:26
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eagles0513875	whoe u ignoring ard	01:26
logixoul	"drag out"? :)	01:27
eagles0513875	in honesty log i think they r skipping kde 3.5 and goign stright to 4 in gutsy	01:27
eagles0513875	ill let u know once i do a dist upgrade to the test release	01:27
ardchoille	no, kde4 won't be default in gutsy	01:27
eagles0513875	kde 3.5 then	01:27
logixoul	eagles0513875: nope, 3.5.7/8 will be in gutsy - it's stable and proven, unlike 4.0	01:27
logixoul	4 will be optional	01:27
ardchoille	I think gutsy will have kde 3.5 and the repos will have packages so you can install 4.0 side-by-side	01:28
eagles0513875	ahhh ok	01:28
dasnipa`	eagles0513875: i doubt kde4 will be ready in time for gutsy	01:28
eagles0513875	lol u never know	01:28
dasnipa`	nah itll be in beta at best	01:28
eagles0513875	lol	01:28
eagles0513875	j/w how many of u guys have a laptop with a broadcom wireless card in it	01:28
logixoul	dasnipa`: Gutsy is released 5 days before KDE 4.0.	01:28
dasnipa`	which might make the release as logixoul as an optional pack	01:28
eagles0513875	ouch	01:29
dasnipa`	logixoul: ouch. that is unfortunate	01:29
logixoul	dasnipa`: which means the final version of KDE 4.0 will be included on the installation media	01:29
eagles0513875	isnt that schedule tenative cuz for feisty they said +- 5 days	01:29
logixoul	(since there's always a 1-week period left for packaging)	01:29
dasnipa`	logixoul: nice.	01:29
logixoul	yep.	01:29
eagles0513875	what u guys think about this guys http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices reverse engineered broadcom linux driver since they refuse to release any linux drivers	01:29
dasnipa`	KDE4 sounds sweet everything ive heard	01:29
eagles0513875	same here	01:30
logixoul	of course ;)	01:30
eagles0513875	i honestly hope when they release gutsy they will have that reverse engineered wifi driver included in it	01:30
logixoul	eagles0513875: isn't this what the GPL violation fiasco was about?	01:30
blizzzek	what is device sr0 or sr1 usually?	01:30
dasnipa`	doubt it	01:30
eagles0513875	i dunno	01:30
eagles0513875	broadcom hasnt said anything yet bout it	01:30
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logixoul	blizzzek: hmm, the serial ports maybe?	01:31
dasnipa`	eagles0513875: IF broadcom comments that they dont mind... then maybe	01:31
blizzzek	logixoul: that would be an explanation	01:31
eagles0513875	basically what they did from what i have read	01:32
icecruncher	hi	01:32
logixoul	blizzzek: ah, no. google says "SATA and new PATA optical drives".	01:32
eagles0513875	is they took the driver for windows apart and then rewrote it in c	01:32
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blizzzek	logixoul: thx... thats kinda weird	01:32
logixoul	right	01:32
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blizzzek	logixoul: i have no such devices but there are i/o errors in dmesg	01:33
eagles0513875	is rewriting a driver in a different language still in violation of the gpl	01:33
logixoul	dunno	01:33
logixoul	blizzzek: ^	01:33
logixoul	eagles0513875: no, unless it's based on reverse engineered knowledge...	01:33
blizzzek	i should not look at this	01:33
eagles0513875	what do u mean	01:34
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dominion	hello I just installed kubuntu.. and can't get my screen to display the correct resolution	01:34
logixoul	eagles0513875: reverse engineering a proprietary driver is generally illegal	01:34
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eagles0513875	ok	01:35
dominion	can someone help?	01:35
eagles0513875	just ask ur question dominion	01:35
logixoul	dominion: kcontrol->peripherals->monitor	01:35
logixoul	eagles0513875: he did	01:35
dominion	I have a nvidia 7600GT and a dell2405fpw (which wasn't detected)	01:35
eagles0513875	so u dont have anything showing up on ur screen	01:36
dominion	the monitor isn't on the list either	01:36
dominion	It's running at 1024*768	01:36
eagles0513875	didu order ur dell machine with kubuntu	01:36
logixoul	dominion: then ask in #xorg for directions as to editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually	01:36
dominion	no.. it's my home built PC	01:36
eagles0513875	is this the feisty release	01:36
dominion	yes feisty AMD64	01:36
alvyn	dominion: type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg at terminal	01:37
dominion	ok... lemme try	01:37
alvyn	after that restart X server	01:37
dominion	log out and in right to restart X server?	01:37
dominion	do I select Vesa?	01:38
eagles0513875	or u hit ctrl+shit+alt and backspace u can do it that way too to restart x	01:38
eagles0513875	logixoul: this is technically what they did	01:38
eagles0513875	http://bcm-specs.sipsolutions.net/ReverseEngineeringProcess	01:38
dominion	I will select VESA	01:38
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logixoul	eagles0513875: yes, that is one of the reasons it was so controversial.	01:39
dominion	Oh... there is NV maybe I should select that?	01:39
logixoul	yes.	01:39
eagles0513875	how come then the site hasent gone down and if u look on the first link i showed u they r still developing new stuff	01:39
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eagles0513875	Kprofthreat: was it u that had trouble getting stuff off ur ntfs partition	01:39
logixoul	eagles0513875: they haven't been prosecuted, apparently.	01:39
Kprofthreat	eagles0513875: Yes. I fixed it now.	01:40
logixoul	dominion: nv is the unaccelerated FOSS driver, nvidia is the accelerated official closed driver	01:40
Kprofthreat	eagles0513875: I tried getting an early start on Gentoo, but it crashed on me. >=[	01:40
Kprofthreat	So, now I go away for about 12 hours	01:40
eagles0513875	honestly i think broadcom doesnt care i think they r glad that someone is developing a linux driver cuz i saw that there was a partition that was goign round trying to petition them but they didnt want to do anything	01:40
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logixoul	probably.	01:40
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dominion	I have to specify amount of kB of memory. it has 256mb. so will I go with 256*1024?	01:41
eagles0513875	these companies that dont support linux or dont provide good support really piss me off	01:41
eagles0513875	leavethe card as is dude	01:42
logixoul	dominion: yes, I think so	01:42
eagles0513875	u dont need to shar any ram with it	01:42
dominion	Ok	01:43
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eagles0513875	do u think if i submit that to someone at canonical they would release it with gutsy	01:43
dominion	use kernel frame buffer?	01:43
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logixoul	dominion: I think you should answer 'no' here.	01:43
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dominion	ok. going with no	01:44
eagles0513875	!sourceomatic	01:44
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	01:44
t1g3r	!eclipse	01:44
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	01:44
t1g3r	i love your bot :D	01:44
lousygarua	i've recently installed kdebase and sometimes apps like firefox or gnome-system-monitor just won't work.. why's that?? is it my old computer?	01:44
logixoul	lousygarua: "won't work"?	01:45
eagles0513875	no	01:45
dasnipa`	t1g3r: 'your' bot is pretty generic... its the bot that is owned/maintained by ubuntu admins its on all the official chans	01:45
eagles0513875	gnome system montior wont work cuz kubuntu is kde based	01:45
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logixoul	eagles0513875: that doesn't make sense you know.	01:45
lousygarua	logixoul: i live my computer for the night, and when i get back adn try to launch firefox it just does its funny bouncing icon and then won't start, withotu any errors or anything.. weird	01:45
logixoul	lousygarua: try launching firefox from a terminal, see if it outputs any messages	01:46
dasnipa`	eagles0513875: there are many things wrong with what you said	01:46
ardchoille	lousygarua: How did you install firefox?	01:46
eagles0513875	ill shut up	01:46
eagles0513875	lol	01:46
logixoul	eagles0513875: how old are you?	01:46
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eagles0513875	20	01:46
logixoul	k	01:47
dasnipa`	kubuntu isnt 'kde based' and just because an app is designed to integrate with KDE, or gnome doesnt make it exclusive to that WM	01:47
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lousygarua	ardchoille: it came with ubuntu, which is the original distro i installed.. i'll try to debug it abit later	01:47
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eagles0513875	lol im going through a tough patch atm and im just doing alot of thinking bout that and i have to admit im still quite a noob when it comes to linux but ever since i got on kubuntu ive learned tons	01:47
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dominion	It worked... thanks everyone... I now have native resolution on my LCD :D	01:48
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logixoul	dasnipa`: well, kubuntu's admin tools are built on KDE tech, and the default apps are KDE ones, so it can be said Kubuntu is 'kde based' actually.	01:48
logixoul	dominion: nice ;)	01:48
dominion	now to try and get compiz fusion going. Any recommendations for a how to guide suited for Nvida hardware?	01:49
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ardchoille	kubuntu is ubuntu-based and uses kde as its default desktop.	01:49
icecruncher	!iso	01:49
ubotu	To mount an ISO disc image, type sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.	01:49
eagles0513875	!nvidia	01:49
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	01:49
dasnipa`	logixoul: well... thats still not quite the way to put it... because that implies that hierarchically kubuntu would have to be an abstraction of the WM, where the wm is clearly higher level than an OS level	01:49
icecruncher	how can I make an ISO? from a bunch of folders?	01:49
eagles0513875	icecruncher: use k3b	01:50
logixoul	ardchoille: which is the same as "kubuntu is kde-based and uses ubuntu as its technological foundation" ;)	01:50
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icecruncher	eagles0513875: not burning onto a cd, it wont work	01:50
ardchoille	logixoul: No, it's not the same. You're confusing the underlying distro with the desktop environment.	01:50
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logixoul	ok, fair enough.	01:50
icecruncher	eagles0513875: I don't want to burn it, just make it, then moung it	01:51
dasnipa`	hardware < bootstrap < kernal < OS < window manage < gui apps	01:51
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eagles0513875	have u tried looking in apt and search for iso	01:51
icecruncher	eagles0513875: no	01:51
icecruncher	eagles0513875: well, now it is. lol	01:51
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ardchoille	hardware < bootstrap < kernal < OS < desktop environment/window manage < gui apps kde is not a wm, it's a desktop environment, kde uses kwin as its wm.	01:52
eagles0513875	try that or u can do apt-cache iso in shell	01:52
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dasnipa`	ardchoille: true... i missed that stuf	01:52
dasnipa`	step*	01:52
ardchoille	I know lots of people who install kubuntu but don't use any kde apps.	01:52
dominion	where is the restricted device manager ?	01:53
eagles0513875	wow i have so many pkgs to upgrade lol	01:53
ardchoille	dominion: I think that is a gtk2 app (gnome desktop)	01:53
eagles0513875	just so i can test gutsy	01:53
icecruncher	eagles0513875: it's Kiso	01:53
crdlb	dominion, on ubuntu :/	01:53
eagles0513875	ok hope it works for ya icecruncher	01:54
dasnipa`	eagles0513875: id recommend virtualizing gutsy instead of upgrading on your main box	01:54
eagles0513875	i dont have anything on here i need	01:54
eagles0513875	all my music i have is on my windows partition	01:54
rajkalyan	hey eaglses	01:54
eagles0513875	sup rajkalyan	01:54
rajkalyan	i need help	01:55
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dominion	Ok.. I'm just trying to follow the guide on installing the nvidia binary driver (so I can compiz fusion). what's the kubuntu alternative way?	01:55
eagles0513875	whats wrong raj	01:55
dasnipa`	okay. have at it... im just saying... a nice way of doing it is with virtualization if you were to want to not risk crashing your system	01:55
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rajkalyan	my pc ceashing	01:55
rajkalyan	crashes a lot	01:55
eagles0513875	dasnipa`: ive done it so many times lol im used to it	01:55
eagles0513875	how does it crash	01:55
eagles0513875	adn what r u doing when it crashes	01:55
rajkalyan	it just stop	01:55
rajkalyan	s	01:55
rajkalyan	and shuts dowj	01:55
rajkalyan	n	01:55
eagles0513875	its a laptop right	01:56
rajkalyan	yes	01:56
rajkalyan	kubuntu	01:56
rajkalyan	edgy	01:56
dasnipa`	rajkalyan: sounds like a heat problem did you do anything to your processor? and are its fans running?	01:56
ardchoille	eagles0513875: Good call	01:56
rajkalyan	yes	01:56
eagles0513875	make sure ur laptop is getting enough cooling	01:56
rajkalyan	Nothing with the processor	01:56
rajkalyan	ok	01:56
eagles0513875	and if its not then get a cooling pad	01:56
rajkalyan	it i	01:56
rajkalyan	s	01:56
eagles0513875	then r the fans running	01:57
rajkalyan	theyre expensive	01:57
rajkalyan	yes	01:57
eagles0513875	both fans if u have 2 one for intake one for exhaust	01:57
dasnipa`	rajkalyan: it runs fine right? and shuts down with no warnings?	01:57
rajkalyan	yes both	01:57
rajkalyan	yes	01:57
rajkalyan	i cant rebot though	01:57
rajkalyan	reboot	01:57
dasnipa`	yeah thats gotta be heat...	01:57
rajkalyan	oh	01:57
rajkalyan	my intake is on the side	01:57
rajkalyan	next to me power adapter'	01:58
eagles0513875	there r also fans on the underside of it too	01:58
rajkalyan	really	01:58
rajkalyan	o yeah	01:58
dasnipa`	heh	01:58
eagles0513875	lol	01:58
dasnipa`	yeah those are kinda important	01:58
rajkalyan	the outake is in the bsck	01:58
eagles0513875	if those rnt getting enough air ur going to need to get a cooling pad	01:58
rajkalyan	my laps on a desk	01:58
eagles0513875	i have bout 2 outtakes	01:58
rajkalyan	me too	01:58
rajkalyan	brbr	01:58
rajkalyan	i gott aeat	01:58
eagles0513875	is it raised and the fans underneath getting enough air	01:58
eagles0513875	i think for me the thing that generates the most heat is my monitor since its a bright screen	02:00
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rockets	If I do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade its not going to put me in gutsy alpha right	02:01
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eagles0513875	nope	02:02
eagles0513875	cuz u dont have the repositories in ur source lsit	02:02
eagles0513875	what version r u upgrading from	02:02
eagles0513875	and also all it will do is upgrade any pkgs that need to be upgraded	02:02
eagles0513875	just like typing upgrade as well	02:02
ardchoille	rockets: No, not until you put gutsy sources in your sources.list.	02:02
rockets	i have feisty already. its just that if you do regular apt-get upgrade it wont install kernel upgrades, etc	02:02
rockets	its a fresh kubuntu install	02:02
eagles0513875	ok	02:03
rockets	I could use adept updater	02:03
rockets	but honestly	02:03
rockets	adept sucks	02:03
eagles0513875	i always use dist-upgrade cuz it gets all the upgradeable pkgs	02:03
eagles0513875	lol	02:03
eagles0513875	not only kernel updates but all the others too so that is how i upgrade mine	02:03
rockets	but once gutsy is out wont dist-upgrade get you gutsy?	02:03
eagles0513875	no	02:03
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eagles0513875	like was said before u would have to add the gutsy repositories	02:03
rockets	I thought it would . . .	02:03
eagles0513875	to ur source list	02:04
rockets	hmm.	02:04
rockets	ok	02:04
eagles0513875	wait	02:04
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eagles0513875	i could be wrong am i right though that once gutsy is released anyone that it wont upgrade the pkgs unless u add the repositories	02:04
Hobbsee	hiya eagles0513875	02:04
rockets	Well whatever, its ok	02:04
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Hobbsee	eagles0513875: you're correct	02:04
ardchoille	eagles0513875: Right, you have to add the repos for an apt-get upgrade to upgrade to the next release. otherwise it just updates the kernel.	02:05
rockets	I typically upgrade to the next release the day it comes out anyway	02:05
eagles0513875	book mark this then rockets	02:05
eagles0513875	!sourceomatic	02:05
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	02:05
rockets	eagles0513875: i already use sourceomatic	02:05
eagles0513875	lol ok	02:05
rockets	anyway I don't upgrade literally	02:05
rockets	i do a fresh install off cd	02:05
rockets	Upgrading via apt to the next release version makes me paranoid their will be junk left on my system. Bad habit left over from windows upgrade installs I guess.	02:06
rockets	Windows upgrade installs always left TONS of junk on your system from the last OS version	02:06
ardchoille	rockets: Me too, and I have master scripts that update and tweak everything.. requires me to be in front of the computer for a total of about 10 minutes when I do a fresh install.	02:06
rockets	hmm	02:07
rockets	yeah i should really write a script to make all the changes I ALWAYS spend 45 minutes making after each install	02:07
rockets	like ndiswrapper for example	02:07
rockets	and concurrency = shell	02:07
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rockets	etc	02:07
rockets	I did just "upgrade" to kubuntu though	02:07
rockets	I've been using regular Ubuntu for a long time and thought I'd give kubuntu a chance.	02:08
ardchoille	rockets: Like installing apps, tweaking xorg/fstab/etc, defining themes/wallpapers/icons. all that stuff.	02:08
rockets	For whatever reason, it feels faster to me	02:08
rajkalyan	how do you install icons	02:08
ardchoille	rajkalyan: Unpack an icon theme into ~/.icons (for a single user) or into /usr/share/icons (system wide install)	02:09
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rockets	I don't get why kubuntu doesnt have a shortcut to kcontrol anywhere though	02:10
rockets	btw whats the Kubuntu equivalent of gksu	02:10
Hoyt	kdesu	02:10
rockets	ty Hoyt	02:10
ardchoille	rockets: You can add a menu item for kcontrol	02:11
rockets	I need to find a good KDE theme too. I like the overall look of the system but not the theme/colors themselves	02:11
ardchoille	rockets: http://www.kde-look.org	02:12
ardchoille	That should keep you busy ;)	02:12
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rockets	ardchoille: is there an equivalent of alacarte for Kubuntu?	02:12
ardchoille	rockets: kmenuedit	02:12
addyk	pm eagles0513875	02:12
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addyk	:)	02:12
rockets	ardchoille: somehow i knew it was going to be called kmenuedit	02:12
rockets	and now i feel dumb	02:13
ardchoille	rockets: Or, right click the kmenu button and choose from the list	02:13
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zorglu_	root 9968 1.8 16.4 881136 74240 ? Ss 11:23 3:05 python /tmp/kde-root/adept_managerXz43Ka.tmp-extract/dist-upgrade.py --frontend DistUpgradeViewKDE <- moauoauoua scripting language are nice :) 800mbyte of virtual and 72mbyte of resident	02:13
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rockets	Great, KDE's power manager thinks my battery is "not present"	02:16
rockets	it IS present	02:16
eagles0513875	lol	02:17
DjDarkman	Hy I`m having problems setting up my laptops DVD Writer mountig, can someome help me with this?	02:17
eagles0513875	werent there some issues when feisty came out	02:17
icecruncher	I love making driver modules	02:17
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icecruncher	DjDarkman: same here with a satalite pro	02:18
DjDarkman	I just want to make it just mount when I put in a CD and unmount when I eject, nothing extra	02:19
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icecruncher	DjDarkman: mine won't even read the cd lol	02:19
icecruncher	DjDarkman: idk, sorry	02:19
DjDarkman	neighter mine...but I can write with it	02:19
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icecruncher	DjDarkman: wierd	02:23
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velo\|gfx	somebody experienced with broadcom wlan controllers?	02:24
DjDarkman	man I just can`t figure out why this doesn`t want to work, on my other PC it works fine	02:24
hilary	(pokes eagles0513875) =)	02:24
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DjDarkman	velo\|gfx: what type?	02:24
velo\|gfx	and kubuntu 7.04 ?	02:24
velo\|gfx	BCM4306	02:24
DjDarkman	velo\|gfx: wait a bit	02:24
velo\|gfx	802.11 b/g	02:24
eagles0513875	hey hilary	02:24
eagles0513875	velo i got a hookup for ya	02:24
hilary	hey =) you ok?	02:24
eagles0513875	http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices	02:24
velo\|gfx	he found it but i cant use it	02:24
eagles0513875	i have that same card	02:24
eagles0513875	y cant u	02:25
velo\|gfx	eagles0513875 : and does it work?	02:25
eagles0513875	i havent set it up yet	02:25
eagles0513875	and where i am doesnt have wireless to test it	02:25
eagles0513875	not bad hilary is msn messenger workign now	02:25
hilary	nope! :(	02:25
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daquino	why is adept_installer so slow	02:26
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eagles0513875	can u shoot me a pm hil plz	02:26
hilary	ok	02:26
DjDarkman	hmmm can`t find it	02:26
DjDarkman	but I have it saved on my harddirve	02:26
ardchoille	hilary: You know you can use kopete to connect with msn messenging, right?	02:26
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rockets	God I love medibuntu	02:27
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eagles0513875	ard she was trying that the other day it wasnt working for her	02:27
eagles0513875	!register \| hilary	02:27
ubotu	hilary: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration	02:27
ardchoille	eagles0513875: Ah, ok.	02:27
DjDarkman	velo\|gfx: you here?	02:27
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DjDarkman	velo\|gfx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177&highlight=Wireless+BCM4318+AirForce+Card this howto worked for me	02:27
eagles0513875	ard only thing i can think of is pidgin	02:27
ardchoille	eagles0513875 , hilary: Well, I use kopete to talk with my friends who use msn messenger.	02:28
velo\|gfx	thy DjDarkman!	02:28
eagles0513875	for some reason those she kept getting an error msg	02:28
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ardchoille	I use it for Yahoo, AOL, msn, icq	02:28
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eagles0513875	i use pidgin which is gaim replacement and it does the same thing	02:28
hilary	I'm struggling to register here =S lolz give me a sec	02:28
eagles0513875	ok lol	02:29
DjDarkman	velo\|gfx: np, hope it workes for you too, if you don`t understand something you can ask me, btw use the windows driver you got with your card	02:29
ardchoille	hilary: /msg nickserv help register	02:29
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zorglu_	q. i just upgraded to feisty and now i got a 'line' in the middle of each button, a kind of coloring which make the button lower part darker than the upper part. i know it is possible to remove it by configuration because i already done it in edgy. my issue is i dont remember the name of the option, any suggestion on how to do that ?	02:34
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velo\|gfx	DjDarkman : are you there?	02:35
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DjDarkman	velo\|gfx: yes	02:35
velo\|gfx	how did you installed ndiswrapper? without internet?	02:35
insector	ciao a tutti	02:35
hilary123x	after about 10 minutes of feeling stupid about how to register	02:35
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velo\|gfx	or did you connected direct?	02:36
hilary123x	I think I have just managed it :D hurrah :D	02:36
insector	c' qualche italiano che pu aiutarmi?	02:36
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eagles0513875	hil did u get my pm	02:36
DjDarkman	velo\|gfx: with internet	02:36
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velo\|gfx	mhm k ok have to finde some lan cable =) thx	02:36
icecruncher	DjDarkman: get any help yet	02:37
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DjDarkman	icecruncher: well I copied and modified my PC`s fstab entry hopefully it should work on my laptop too	02:37
puppetmaster	Hello everyone	02:38
DjDarkman	just a silly question	02:38
puppetmaster	I need a downloader like IDM in linux	02:38
DjDarkman	is it a bad thing to write on CD/DVD someting from a fat32 partition in linux?	02:38
puppetmaster	What will it be?	02:38
icecruncher	DjDarkman: lol	02:39
puppetmaster	Anyone?	02:39
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icecruncher	!patience \| puppetmaster	02:40
ubotu	puppetmaster: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped. Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines	02:40
dominion	does anyone know if opera configuration files are the same between windows and linux? Would I be able to copy them across? Or do I have to adjust everything from scratch?	02:40
DjDarkman	icecruncher: this is not funny I need fat 32 for ms windows compatibility	02:40
icecruncher	DjDarkman: jk	02:40
puppetmaster	I'm soo sorry but it's a simple question	02:40
mat1980	puppetmaster: what is IDM?	02:41
puppetmaster	Internet Download Manager	02:42
puppetmaster	it's a great download program	02:42
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zorglu_	q. i just upgraded to feisty and now i got a 'line' in the middle of each button, a kind of coloring which make the button lower part darker than the upper part. i know it is possible to remove it by configuration because i already done it in edgy. my issue is i dont remember the name of the option, any suggestion on the name/path of this option ?	02:44
icecruncher	puppetmaster: oh, in firefox, get downthemall	02:44
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puppetmaster	???	02:45
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blubbi	hi all	02:45
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icecruncher	puppetmaster: it's a firefox addon	02:45
blubbi	can enybode help me to install a AWE64 ISA Sound card	02:45
puppetmaster	I'll search for it and I'll get back to you	02:46
blubbi	the problem is that it is a ISA card and I dont know how to install ISA cards	02:46
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aroo	why are you still using an isa card	02:47
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DjDarkman	mount is ignorent amd messed up, how can I make it come to it`s senses?	02:48
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DjDarkman	how can I make it forget that I switched off the power of my usb dvd writer?	02:49
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blubbi	aroo: its an old PC	02:50
blubbi	and the card is still great	02:50
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DjDarkman	can someone recomend me a good partitioner program?	02:52
blubbi	by the way.. where do I tell ubuntu to autoload modules... in gentoo I have /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6	02:52
aroo	DjDarkman: gparted, qtparted	02:52
blubbi	where I can put modules which should be loaded on startup	02:52
icecruncher	DjDarkman: qtparted	02:53
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icecruncher	puppetmaster: found it yet?	02:54
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velo\|gfx	DjDarkman : still there? =9	02:56
DjDarkman	yeah velo\|gfx	02:57
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icecruncher	how is dolphin better? i heard from someone that it ws somehow way better	02:57
velo\|gfx	could you post that link one more time? my FF just sucked up :(	02:57
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DjDarkman	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177&highlight=Wireless+BCM4318+AirForce+Card	02:57
DjDarkman	use opera :)	02:57
DjDarkman	or konqueror	02:57
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icecruncher	no firefox rules	02:58
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icecruncher	lol	02:58
velo\|gfx	thx	02:59
puppetmaster	yes I found it	03:00
puppetmaster	thanks alot	03:00
puppetmaster	but I wanted something more like Idm	03:00
puppetmaster	it has so many feetures	03:00
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icecruncher	puppetmaster: what an idm?	03:01
icecruncher	puppetmaster: use Kget	03:01
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puppetmaster	Internet Download Manager	03:01
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icecruncher	ah	03:01
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puppetmaster	What's so great about idm is	03:01
khaije1	soooo........	03:01
khaije1	where do i put my virtual machines....	03:02
khaije1	?	03:02
puppetmaster	he shutdown my pc after finished	03:02
puppetmaster	it has a schedule has so many great thing	03:02
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ardchoille	puppetmaster: kget can shutdown after downloads are finished :)	03:04
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icecruncher	ok, something crazy...	03:06
icecruncher	can anyone tell me how to set up konversation to have a prive conversation as soon as it starts? (like ubotu for ex.)	03:06
puppetmaster	I'll try it	03:06
icecruncher	*privat	03:06
zorglu_	icecruncher: see #konversation	03:07
icecruncher	thks, lol	03:07
puppetmaster	No, thnks to u	03:07
icecruncher	puppetmaster: np	03:08
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eagles0513875	!sourceomatic	03:09
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	03:09
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Jucato	icecruncher: Connection -> Server List -> Edit -> Commands -> in the text field you can put: /query ubotu	03:10
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velo\|gfx	hmmm strange	03:11
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velo\|gfx	if i try to restart kubuntu something strange happens. my monitor turn off but my computer did not restart	03:12
velo\|gfx	somebody know how it happens?	03:12
icecruncher	if I wanna take out my usb drive, is it better to safely remove"?	03:12
mat1980	icecruncher: it's a good thing to do	03:13
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icecruncher	mat1980: but why?	03:13
mat1980	icecruncher: because Linux doesn't write changes on the drive immediately. It keeps changes on ram, untill you sync or umount.	03:14
icecruncher	mat1980: thnks	03:15
Jucato	icecruncher: it's the wise/good thing to do on any OS, Linux or Windows	03:15
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icecruncher	Jucato: true, but I've been told that it doesn't kill th usb, and doesn't matter	03:16
Jucato	it may not kill the USB, but it may ruin some files some times, afaik	03:16
icecruncher	:)	03:17
mat1980	icecruncher: yes if's not safe your hour disk, is safe for your data	03:17
icecruncher	ok, something else....:)	03:18
icecruncher	what to do when my usb is in read only?	03:18
icecruncher	I didn't set it to that	03:19
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logixoul	icecruncher: check the perms of /media/nameofdevice	03:20
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puppetmaster	What's wrong with rmvb files?	03:21
puppetmaster	file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/CONAN Doyle	03:21
puppetmaster	file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/0060763280.pdf	03:21
puppetmaster	file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/Dangerous Google - Searching For Secrets.pdf	03:21
puppetmaster	file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/Music and Lyrics DVDRiP XViD [WwW.TT1TT.NeT] .txt	03:21
puppetmaster	file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/Novel Collection 6.exe	03:21
logixoul	huh?	03:21
puppetmaster	file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/+O'reilly 2006 - Mind Performance Hacks.pdf	03:21
puppetmaster	file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/+O'reilly - Mind Hacks [2005] .pdf	03:21
puppetmaster	file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/Powerful.Sleep.Secrets.Of.The.Inner.Sleep.Clock.pdf	03:21
puppetmaster	file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/The.Art.of.Intrusion.pdf	03:21
puppetmaster	sorry	03:21
logixoul	heh	03:21
puppetmaster	I can't run it on VLC?	03:21
puppetmaster	and real player is very slowly	03:22
puppetmaster	What should I do?	03:22
icecruncher	!paste \| puppetmaster	03:22
ubotu	puppetmaster: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	03:22
logixoul	puppetmaster: try kaffeine	03:22
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puppetmaster	it didn't work on it also	03:23
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zorglu_	q. i just upgraded to feisty and now i got a 'line' in the middle of each button, a kind of coloring which make the button lower part darker than the upper part. i know it is possible to remove it by configuration because i already done it in edgy. my issue is i dont remember the name of the option, any suggestion on the name/path of this option ?	03:23
logixoul	haha	03:24
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logixoul	zorglu_: it's supposed to look like a cool lightning effect. just switch from polyester to plastik to get rid of it	03:24
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zorglu_	logixoul: ok trying	03:24
logixoul	zorglu_: or, alternatively, change the button type from "glass" to "inverted" or "normal" in the polyester options	03:24
torch	hi all, is it possible to extract the installation .iso file to an USB device and boot/install from that USB device?	03:25
logixoul	zorglu_: kcontrol->appearance->style	03:25
logixoul	!usb	03:25
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ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	03:25
zorglu_	logixoul: did the job, thanks :)	03:26
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logixoul	np	03:26
velo\|gfx	after an update ive got 2 diffrent kubuntu versions on grub! with endings 15 and 16	03:26
velo\|gfx	whats wrong?	03:27
logixoul	velo\|gfx: nothing	03:27
logixoul	velo\|gfx: 15 is the old version	03:27
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logixoul	velo\|gfx: it's still there just in case the new one fails	03:27
velo\|gfx	mhm	03:27
velo\|gfx	k	03:27
velo\|gfx	so i sould just to start the new one	03:27
velo\|gfx	-to	03:27
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silver_	does anybody knows how to make 3D support on video trindent cyber blade ?	03:27
velo\|gfx	thx :)	03:28
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romudog	Linux Pwnz All.	03:29
mat1980	icecruncher: is your disk mounted read-only, or have you no permission? what is the output of mount?	03:30
dominion	what would cause a "returned error code(1)" when I attempt "sudo apt-get update"?	03:30
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icecruncher	mat1980: I didn't try to mount it man	03:31
dominion	actually it says "Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"	03:31
icecruncher	mat1980: I'll try now, but I couldn't format in qtparted	03:31
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mat1980	icecruncher: system do it automatically. You have to know how.	03:31
icecruncher	mat1980: pls explain	03:31
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mat1980	icecruncher: when you plug in a drive in the usb, system mounts it. You have to know what option it uses.	03:33
Darkrift411	how do i install an older version of firefox?	03:33
Darkrift411	can i do it with apt?	03:33
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Darkrift411	or do i have to build it	03:33
icecruncher	mat1980: what option	03:33
icecruncher	?	03:33
mat1980	icecruncher: mount options. When you mount something you can give some option. But what does format concern? I havn't understood what you are tring to do with gparted.	03:34
icecruncher	mat1980: I'm trying to format my disk, but It won't let me read it format it whatever	03:35
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mat1980	icecruncher: sorry... can't translate the second part of your sentence.	03:37
dominion	ice cruncher is unable to read or format.	03:38
dominion	I think that's ice is a saying.	03:38
icecruncher	mat1980: as in I cannot make any changes to the disk, nor can I acess tit's content :)	03:38
icecruncher	yep	03:38
icecruncher	*it's	03:38
dominion	tit's :P	03:38
icecruncher	sorry	03:38
mat1980	mat1980: thanks :) now I've understood :)	03:39
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mat1980	icecruncher: well... plug in the drive, and give use the output of dmesg	03:40
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dominion	why would this error occur? "	03:41
dominion	gzip: stdin: not in gzip format	03:41
dominion	Err http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Packages	03:41
dominion	Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)	03:41
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dominion	It's coming from a reliable server I imagine. And I have tried the update many times.. but it's always the same error.	03:41
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dominion	it's really frustrating.. I just want to install stuff, and I can't get any further.	03:42
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puppetmaster	how to mount a .daa cd?	03:42
puppetmaster	how to mount a .daa cd image ?	03:43
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icecruncher	mat1980: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27414/	03:44
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mat1980	icecruncher: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda ?	03:47
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snake_	i did apt-get autoremove and now i have no sound and i can not play videos in browsers	03:49
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_4strO	snake_: can you paste the return of this command : cat /var/log/dpkg.log \| grep remove	03:53
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_4strO	or simply look what it was removed	03:54
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BluesKaj	Morning all :)	03:54
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icecruncher	BluesKaj: good evenig :)	03:55
icecruncher	ah, my spelling is killing me	03:56
icecruncher	good evening	03:56
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polopolo	Can I come here for mozilla Thunderbird questions?	03:56
snake_	_4strO: here is the return http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27420/	03:57
icecruncher	polopolo: you can try	03:58
_4strO	snake_: what time is it ?	03:58
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_4strO	snake :p look on that you gave me you have the date	03:58
_4strO	when did you type apt-get autoremove ?	03:58
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icecruncher	polopolo: or try #mozilla	03:58
snake_	_4strO: now its 4 a clock	03:59
hilary	Hey	03:59
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icecruncher	hay	03:59
snake_	i did that at 4 a clock in the morning	03:59
snake_	before 12 hours	03:59
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BluesKaj	10 AM here icecruncher , so it's still morning :)	03:59
Schuenemann	heya	03:59
BluesKaj	hi Schuenemann	03:59
icecruncher	BluesKaj: here 9 pm	04:00
Schuenemann	10:00? cool, just an hour of difference :-p	04:00
BluesKaj	aha asia or oz	04:00
hilary	so is no one struggling to sign into their messengers with Kopete or Pidgin or anything? or is it just me?	04:00
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polopolo	How can I get mail from one a-mail addres to one folder on mozilla Thunderbird	04:00
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Schuenemann	hilary, I'm on gtalk/pdgin and msn/amsn	04:00
jussi01	@now helsinki	04:00
ubotu	Current time in Europe/Helsinki: June 27 2007, 17:01:01 - Current meeting: Edubuntu	04:00
Schuenemann	@now salvador	04:01
Schuenemann	unknown heh	04:01
polopolo	@now amsterdam	04:01
ubotu	Current time in Europe/Amsterdam: June 27 2007, 16:01:28 - Current meeting: Edubuntu	04:01
hilary	so its just me then lolz	04:01
Schuenemann	@now bahia	04:01
ubotu	Current time in America/Bahia: June 27 2007, 11:01:48 - Current meeting: Edubuntu	04:01
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polopolo	@now amsterdam \| Schuenemann	04:02
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Schuenemann	thanks, it's very important for me to know what time is it in Amsterdam	04:02
polopolo	Nobody has answer on my question?	04:02
eagles0513875	hilary	04:02
Schuenemann	polopolo, could you explain it better?	04:02
hilary	eagles	04:02
polopolo	ok	04:03
eagles0513875	did u sing back in	04:03
BluesKaj	polopolo, what exactly are you trying to do ...import email addresses ?	04:03
eagles0513875	hilary: do /msg nickserv identify then ur password	04:03
Schuenemann	use one folder per account?	04:03
hilary	yeah Pidgin and Kopete still hate me	04:03
eagles0513875	:(	04:03
snake_	can anyone help me with the sound server error please	04:03
icecruncher	@bangkok	04:03
polopolo	no, that e-mail from a e-mail addres comes into a folder in mozilla thunderbird	04:03
eagles0513875	join the pidgin channel and see if anyone else is having the same issues	04:03
Schuenemann	polopolo, you can use a filter	04:04
jussi01	!thunderbird	04:04
ubotu	a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation. To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427	04:04
icecruncher	@now bangkok	04:04
ubotu	Current time in Asia/Bangkok: June 27 2007, 21:04:17 - Current meeting: Edubuntu	04:04
jussi01	heh, thats not much help is it...	04:04
polopolo	filter, ok, I try	04:04
Schuenemann	polopolo, tools > filter	04:04
eagles0513875	hilary: ur passwords typed in correctly and caps lock not turned on	04:04
polopolo	I saw, thank you:D	04:04
icecruncher	BluesKaj: I've now been online like 11 hours	04:05
icecruncher	lol	04:05
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eagles0513875	anyone know where canonical is based	04:05
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BluesKaj	icecruncher, sounds to me like you need a life too :)	04:05
icecruncher	eagles0513875: isle of weight?	04:05
polopolo	eagles: A rich african men?	04:05
polopolo	!o4o \| eagles0513875	04:05
ubotu	eagles0513875: Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic. It is asked that controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.	04:05
jussi01	!canonical	04:05
BluesKaj	eagles0513875, UK	04:05
ubotu	Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/	04:06
polopolo	oops	04:06
icecruncher	icecruncher: well it's summer break, no school til august	04:06
polopolo	sorry wrong	04:06
eagles0513875	kool	04:06
eagles0513875	polo wtf	04:06
polopolo	eagles0513875: sorry wrong	04:06
eagles0513875	lol	04:06
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eagles0513875	ty blues	04:06
Schuenemann	what is o4o?	04:06
icecruncher	oho?	04:06
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Schuenemann	and what is oho?	04:07
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Schuenemann	[11:05:58] <polopolo> !o4o \| eagles0513875	04:07
eagles0513875	?	04:07
icecruncher	i mean oh oh?	04:07
polopolo	Founded in 2004, Canonical Ltd is a company headquartered in Europe with 90+ employees working in over 18 countries. Canonical is the commercial sponsor of Ubuntu project.	04:07
eagles0513875	brb guys need to restart my modem see if that helps anything	04:07
icecruncher	eagles0513875: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical	04:07
polopolo	!o4o > Schuenemann	04:08
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icecruncher	well more like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_Ltd.	04:08
icecruncher	sorry	04:08
Schuenemann	polopolo, I wanted to know what is "o4o"	04:08
polopolo	oh	04:08
polopolo	wait	04:08
icecruncher	hey its on the isle of man	04:08
polopolo	!notrue	04:08
icecruncher	I ws close	04:08
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about notrue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	04:08
icecruncher	lol	04:08
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polopolo	offtopic4offtopic	04:09
Schuenemann	very descriptive...	04:09
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icecruncher	haha	04:09
snake_	this is what i get when i try to play something.	04:09
snake_	Sound server fatal error:	04:09
snake_	Error while initializing the sound driver:	04:09
snake_	device: default can't be opened for playback (Operation not permitted)	04:09
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Schuenemann	!pastebin > snake_	04:10
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BluesKaj	in the irish sea...interesting, icecruncher	04:10
icecruncher	mat1980: any solution yet?	04:10
snake_	sorry	04:10
icecruncher	BluesKaj: less taxes maybe, no patent issues	04:10
snake_	!pastebin	04:10
snake_	Sound server fatal error:	04:10
snake_	Error while initializing the sound driver:	04:10
snake_	device: default can't be opened for playback (Operation not permitted)	04:10
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ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	04:10
snake_	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27426/	04:11
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mat1980	icecruncher: sorry.. I was away. Can you give me again the link of the fdisk ?	04:11
BluesKaj	less parent issues in europe in general , anyway	04:11
icecruncher	mat1980: at the bottom	04:11
eagles0513875	hilary u still here	04:11
icecruncher	mat1980: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27417/	04:11
icecruncher	BluesKaj; parent rotflol	04:12
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icecruncher	mat1980: thnks	04:12
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mat1980	icecruncher: well... it shows the fat partition... the output of mount ?	04:13
icecruncher	mat1980: ?	04:13
icecruncher	oh	04:13
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BluesKaj	MS is trying to FUD some of the linux enterprise co's and mandriva just told them to take flying leap ... no patents on softwate code in Europe	04:13
BluesKaj	or very few	04:13
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icecruncher	mat1980: mount: mount point /media/usb does not exist	04:14
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mat1980	icecruncher: ok, but type only the command mount, without any option. It will show you what is mounted on the system	04:15
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icecruncher	mat1980: done	04:16
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mat1980	icecruncher: resolved?	04:17
icecruncher	no	04:18
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snake_	artsd crashed. what can i do	04:18
snake_	?	04:18
mat1980	icecruncher: then... where is the output?	04:18
icecruncher	mat1980: at the bottom	04:18
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icecruncher	mat1980; ok, it resolved	04:18
icecruncher	mat1980: no idea why	04:19
lontra	can i resize an ext3 partition with qtparted?	04:19
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icecruncher	mat1980: read yes, no format	04:20
icecruncher	mat1980: just gonna try on win :()	04:20
mat1980	icecruncher: I guess id of paste changes every time you change its content. So you should give the new link every time.	04:20
mat1980	icecruncher: do you start gparted with sudo?	04:21
Daisuke_Ido	lontra: i would recommend gparted, qtparted tends to be rather buggy	04:21
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fritz	how do you change the taskbar...the original big grey ugly 1 with something that looks more 21th century?	04:24
BluesKaj	gparted live cd is the best way to go...solid with many more options	04:24
icecruncher	mat1980: well I did it in win, so now it works	04:24
BluesKaj	!gparted \| lontra	04:25
ubotu	lontra: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type sudo apt-get install gparted in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php	04:25
fritz	and if any1 knows how do you make the windows themselves transparent?	04:25
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fritz	?	04:26
BluesKaj	I must admit utorrent running under wine and DLing the same file is quite a bit faster then ktorrent ... interesting	04:26
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BluesKaj	!eyecandy	04:27
ubotu	Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy	04:27
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mat1980	icecruncher: ok	04:29
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philip_	Oh noes	04:30
fritz	ok,,,,	04:30
philip_	First install hey guys :) great OS	04:30
fritz	well that didn't help	04:30
fritz	i'm running kubuntu	04:31
fritz	and there is no theme manager here	04:31
philip_	anyone know a utorrent style app for linux, automated RSS downloading etc	04:31
fritz	and nowhere does it say how to change the taskbar or toolbar	04:31
fritz	neither is there any info on window transparency	04:32
eagles0513875	do u have the beryl theme manager	04:33
eagles0513875	i know u can change that stuff with that	04:33
philip_	theme manager sucks	04:34
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vander	fritz-try system settings->advanced->KDE resources	04:35
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dr_willis	I tend to use ktorrent for my torrent needs	04:37
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eagles0513875	what bout azureus	04:41
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eagles0513875	hilary ill ttyl	04:41
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clouder`grr	Where do I find power management options in KDE? Mainly for telling the monitors to turn off after so long or not	04:43
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Daisuke_Ido	system settings > monitor and display	04:45
dr_willis	Theres a Panel applet that lets ya set some of those. i think. also.	04:45
dr_willis	My laptop hass some other panel applet for a few other powersettings also	04:45
clouder`grr	When I go into Monitor and Display it says I have an orphaned control module or an old 3rd party module	04:47
clouder`grr	I originally ran gnome, and I'm giving the kubuntu package a run	04:47
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dr_willis	you did install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package?	04:49
clouder`grr	dr_willis: yeah	04:49
dr_willis	it should all work. Thats how i normally do it all.	04:49
dr_willis	Its possible its some odd video card driver issue.	04:49
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omega	hy to all	04:52
omega	yes i'm back	04:52
omega	to bother u all :))	04:53
omega	whit my beryl	04:53
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omega	i gues that i don't know to set up my videeo card	04:54
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omega	that's why doesn't work my beryl	04:55
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omega	can help me	04:56
jussi01	omega: /join #ubuntu-effects	04:56
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rockets	How do I enable logging in Kopete? I can't seem to find the option.	05:00
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Some_Person	Is there an ubuntu human theme for kde?	05:01
Jucato	rockets: Settings -> Configure Plugins -> History	05:01
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Jucato	Some_Person: try http://www.kde-look.org	05:01
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rockets	ty	05:02
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Some_Person	I can't find one	05:02
rockets	Some_Person: all I've found is an old broken one	05:02
Some_Person	me too	05:03
rockets	That'd be really nice though.	05:03
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Some_Person	I want it to make KDE apps look better in Ubuntu - I am not an actual KDE user	05:03
Some_Person	But I thought this would be a better place to ask	05:03
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Some_Person	all i have is the broken one that doesn't work and you can't delete	05:04
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rockets	Can I use the regular ubuntu restricted module manager if I have kubuntu	05:04
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dr_willis	rockets, yes.. i use it all the time. :)	05:06
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zorglu_	q. on feisty, when unlog/restart etc.. a splash screen appears with some options, it has a 'weird' video effect in the background, how can i disable this effect ?	05:08
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zorglu_	q. feisty starts a networkmanager and batterymanager in the applet of the panel, i would like it to stop, where should i look ?	05:09
dr_willis	remoive the programs, log out, when you log back in. they proberly wont restart.	05:11
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zorglu_	dr_willis: all is in the 'probably' :) i tried and they do	05:12
zorglu_	do restart i mean	05:12
fritz	1. Make sure your xorg graphics driver has composite support and that you have composite turned on in your xorg.conf.	05:12
fritz	can any1 tranlate that?	05:12
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fritz	http://dot.kde.org/1179921215/1179939974/1179941671/1180012629/	05:13
fritz	this is the tutorial on how to make windows transparent	05:13
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fritz	i did everything but it doesen't work	05:13
dr_willis	zorglu_, theres some 'save session' feature of kde. that may not be enabled righht. I nrmally have mine set to 'save on logout' i recall.	05:13
fritz	i found the windows tranlucency option in kcontrol	05:14
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fritz	and set them to 30% but they don't change:(	05:14
zorglu_	ok i have seen this recently, lets try	05:14
fritz	any1?	05:14
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fritz	1. Make sure your xorg graphics driver has composite support and that you have composite turned on in your xorg.conf.	05:17
fritz	can any1 translate that?	05:17
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fritz	come on...somebody...anybody?	05:17
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Jevon	ok,question:	05:18
jussi01	fritz /join #ubuntu-effects	05:18
Jevon	Adept will no longer allow me to update or install packages, because it says that there is another adept process running. How do I stop the other process?	05:19
zorglu_	!fix-adept	05:19
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about fix-adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:19
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zorglu_	i keep forgeting this alias	05:19
jhutchins_wk	!adeptfix	05:19
ubotu	If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a	05:19
zorglu_	i wasnt that far	05:19
jussi01	lol	05:19
fritz	?	05:19
Jevon	man, I like that bot	05:19
jhutchins_wk	fritz: Translate it into what?	05:20
fritz	what does it mean	05:20
fritz	cause i changed the translucrency and nothing happens	05:20
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jhutchins_wk	Looks like pretty plain english to me, but not necessarily related to translucency, which works with some card but not others.	05:21
Arwen	quick question, I know KDE4 is far from done, but how much of it works?	05:21
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jhutchins_wk	Arwen: Last I heard, mostly the part that crashes, but that was a while ago.	05:22
Arwen	ok	05:23
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Jevon	sounds like windows	05:23
jhutchins_wk	I'm starting to see more preliminary packages available, so I'd say it's moving from alpha to beta stage.	05:23
mat1980	Jevon: killall adept	05:23
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fritz	what is KWin?	05:24
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jussi01	!info kwin	05:24
ubotu	kwin: the KDE window manager. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.1 (feisty), package size 1025 kB, installed size 3328 kB	05:24
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zorglu_	sudo rm /usr/share/autostart/guidance-power-manager.desktop <- trying that now	05:28
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ardchoille	Is there a desktop switcher type of app that will, when activated, zoom out and show non=overlapped thumbnails of all opened apps and let you choose an app?	05:29
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Cugel	ardchoille: that's in Beryl/Compiz	05:29
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dr_willis	Ive seen a similer thing in that mettis (mettiss?) also. :)	05:30
Arwen	ardchoille, that requires a compositing manager, e.g. compiz	05:30
ardchoille	Cugel: I won't runs those. Isn't there a stand-alone app that does it?	05:30
dr_willis	ardchoille, not that ive seen	05:30
Arwen	ardchoille, no, because it only works when composite is enabled...	05:30
zorglu_	dr_willis: ok my magic rm did the job :) no more powermanager applet :)	05:30
ardchoille	Arwen: No, it doesn't. I've used one but forgot the name.	05:30
Arwen	otherwise you can't grab the windows to thumbnail em	05:30
Schuenemann	@now montreal	05:30
ubotu	Current time in America/Montreal: June 27 2007, 11:30:55 - Next meeting: Xubuntu Developers in 4 hours 29 minutes	05:30
Arwen	^^ - simple as that, you're just not remembering right	05:30
ardchoille	Arwen: I know there's one that doesn't require compositing. I just need to remember the name.	05:31
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icecruncher	I need a new fstab, mine is messed up	05:32
Arwen	but how would it work? if there's no composite enabled, the thumbnailer can't intercept the windows before they're drawn to screen	05:32
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icecruncher	how can I get one?	05:32
Arwen	icecruncher, uh.... go fix it, you can't "get a new fstab"	05:32
icecruncher	Arwen: fix it how, it's all )&%#)%	05:33
Arwen	go pastebin it and I'll take a look	05:33
nirmal	!beryl	05:33
ubotu	beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects	05:33
Arwen	!compiz is better than beryl	05:33
Arwen	oh, oops	05:33
ardchoille	compiz and beryl merged	05:33
nirmal	how to get it	05:33
icecruncher	Arwen: fix it how?	05:33
Arwen	read the link..	05:33
Arwen	icecruncher, it's just a file... you fix it by editing it	05:34
icecruncher	!fsatb	05:34
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about fsatb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:34
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Arwen	!fstab > icecruncher	05:34
nirmal	compiz where from i download Arwen	05:34
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Arwen	........................	05:35
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kenzo	hi	05:35
jhutchins_wk	!compiz \| nirmal	05:35
ubotu	nirmal: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects	05:35
icecruncher	Arwen: yeah, but I'd like to start over	05:35
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jhutchins_wk	icecruncher: What is it exactly that you would like us to tell you?	05:35
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icecruncher	jhutchins_wk: my whole mounting of my usb disk is messd up, want a fresh fstab like at boot	05:36
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jhutchins_wk	icecruncher: Well, the original fstab is generated by the installer. You could reinstall if you insist that you don't want to fix the one you have.	05:37
ardchoille	ok, I meant app switcher, not desktop switcher. My bad.	05:37
icecruncher	jhutchins_wk: reinstall, can i repair the system?	05:37
jhutchins_wk	icecruncher: Certainly.	05:38
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icecruncher	jhutchins_wk: as in via alternate cd repair?	05:38
jhutchins_wk	icecruncher: Like arwen said, read the doc on fstab, and if necessary pastebin your current one and ask for help.	05:38
jhutchins_wk	icecruncher: No.	05:38
jhutchins_wk	icecruncher: Not any way that I know of at least.	05:39
ardchoille	icecruncher: You didn't make a backup before editing it?	05:39
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icecruncher	ardchoille; no, it was edited via the disks and filesys in sys settings, coudnt change after that	05:39
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jhutchins_wk	icecruncher: In the time you've been moaning about it, you could have fixed it already.	05:40
icecruncher	jhutchins_wk: sure	05:40
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zorglu_	q. on feisty, there is a 'log out' splash which has a 'weird' effect on the background, how can i disable it ? the dark bar going up and down	05:41
paolo	before i have lost my connection to this channel, i've asked: is there a protocol which is both reliable and connectionless?	05:41
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icecruncher	ok, sorry for moaning, I'll go rtsm	05:42
zorglu_	paolo: not a mainstream one, no	05:42
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zorglu_	paolo: why do you ask for that ?	05:42
dr_willis	zorglu_, i just disable all the splash/framebuffer stuff :)	05:42
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zorglu_	paolo: thinking about it, reliable imply connection	05:43
see-g	paolo: uhm ... I saw a description of something like that some time ago when I randomly browsed through the sourceforge	05:43
zorglu_	dr_willis: ok trying this :)	05:43
SunStealth	Hey guys, I need help, where can I find the sound config file for my alsa sound device?	05:43
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zorglu_	dr_willis: i browse the kcontrol, and found nothing about splash/framebuffer. any more precise pointer ?	05:45
icecruncher	ok, would anyone mind helping me edit my fstab? the link is http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/27438/	05:45
dr_willis	zorglu_, its a kernel boot time option i disable.	05:46
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dr_willis	# defoptions=nosplash nofb	05:46
zorglu_	dr_willis: ah ok, well this wont help the kde delog, no ? i mean would be surprising...	05:46
dr_willis	in the menu.lst and rerun grub-install	05:46
dr_willis	:)	05:46
dr_willis	kde delog?	05:46
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dr_willis	im refering to the boot splash/gfx/eye candy.	05:47
zorglu_	dr_willis: i was talking of the splash you get when you do the desktop -> popup menu -> logout	05:47
zorglu_	dr_willis: on feisty you got a splash in the middle of the screen with various big icons	05:47
zorglu_	dr_willis: and a weird background effect, just would like to disable this effect	05:47
dr_willis	I dont recall seeing any effect... other then a greying out of the background I think. lets look	05:48
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icecruncher	jhutchins_wk: would you mind helping me?	05:49
zorglu_	dr_willis: this is a 'darker bar going up and down'	05:49
dr_willis	It just does a animated 'dark fade' Hmm.. i always log out so fast.. i never notice it.	05:49
zorglu_	dr_willis: me too but it make my screen 'blink' in practice :)	05:49
dr_willis	#kde may know the proper place to kill that effect. Ive never seen issues with it.	05:49
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dr_willis	or be a realman and just hit - alt-ctrl-backspace! :)	05:49
ardchoille	hahaha	05:50
zorglu_	dr_willis: in fact this has been added by kubuntu people apparently and is not on kde itself, from jucato on kde	05:50
dr_willis	or add a logout button to the panel.	05:50
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zorglu_	dr_willis: yep i will find workaround if i can fix it properly	05:50
Jucato	zorglu_: hold on a sec, let me try to get something	05:50
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ardchoille	zorglu_: How often do you log out? My main computer has been logged into kde for 3 months.	05:50
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dr_willis	ive seen a similer effect for the various 'enter root password' things as well.	05:50
zorglu_	ardchoille: a lot :)	05:51
Jucato	zorglu_: you want to remove the fade effect?	05:51
Jucato	dr_willis: that's what happens on Ubuntu iirc	05:51
zorglu_	Jucato: yep, or make it more 'subtle', the edgy one was ok,	05:51
ardchoille	dr_willis: that has to do with the system keeping apps (keyloggers) from sniffing the admin pass.	05:51
zorglu_	Jucato: but no effect is ok too	05:51
dr_willis	I think we need animated video effects in thebackground!	05:51
dr_willis	like for kdesu - there shouldbe comptuers exploding as a warning! :)	05:52
Jucato	dr_willis: run mplayer without borders? :)	05:52
Jucato	fullscreen	05:52
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Jucato	zorglu_: ok I think I have something, hold on	05:52
dr_willis	Logout shows various pc's err.... melting.. :)	05:52
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zorglu_	Jucato: ok waiting :)	05:52
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icecruncher	jhutchins_wk: what is the mtab file?	05:53
ardchoille	!mtab	05:53
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about mtab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:53
Arwen	mtab lists mounted filesystems doesn't it?	05:53
Jucato	zorglu_: in ~/.kde/share/config, open or create the ksmserverrc file (most probably it exists already)	05:53
icecruncher	Arwen: so where would usb come into play? mtab or fstab?	05:54
Arwen	.........	05:54
Jucato	zorglu_: then add this whole section at the end: http://rafb.net/p/XMFTpy85.html	05:54
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zorglu_	wow :)	05:54
zorglu_	Jucato: ok trying	05:54
Jucato	zorglu_: the numbers are in milliseconds. the last one is in "percent"	05:54
Jucato	(0.6 = 60%)	05:55
Jucato	of course, the first one is either true or false	05:55
Jucato	doFancyLogout=false disables the fade effect. not sure if it brings back the default KDE fade	05:55
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ardchoille	Jucato: Wow, you know kde quite well. I'm glad you're in this channel.	05:56
Jucato	lol no	05:57
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icecruncher	Arwen: i get it, mtab is what to do when mount command is used	05:57
Jucato	it just so happen that I kept bugging the creator of that logout effect patch for that :)	05:57
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Darkrift411	ok, i have a major problem	05:58
icecruncher	jhutchins_wk: is there a howto for mtab?	05:58
Darkrift411	seems any type of video is causing problems	05:58
Darkrift411	at first i thought it was just my browsers	05:58
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Darkrift411	but now i cant even watch tv shows ive downloaded	05:58
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Darkrift411	everything that plays video is freezing up	05:59
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dr_willis	locate ksmserverrc - shows several example ksmserverrc files -- nifty	05:59
zorglu_	Jucato: cool thanks :)	05:59
dr_willis	usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/lesser-visual-impairment/share/config/ksmserverrc	05:59
dr_willis	that may be good for my wife. :)	05:59
zorglu_	Jucato: i experimented a bit, and there is a bug in the timer interpretation :)	05:59
Jucato	dr_willis: yeah there should be at least 2 or 3	05:59
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Darkrift411	vlc, kaffiene, mplayer, firefox, konqueror and anything else i try to play video in arehaving this problem	05:59
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Jucato	dr_willis, zorglu_: oh let me throw in something else for that :)	06:00
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Jucato	doUbuntuLogout= in the same section of ksmserverrc	06:00
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zorglu_	Jucato: try to put 50 on both Time and you will see the fade bar freeze in the middle of the screen	06:00
Jucato	dr_willis, zorglu_: true = new Kubuntu logout dialog. false = default KDE logout dialog	06:00
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Darkrift411	anyone got any ideas?	06:01
foose12	im having a disply issue in kubuntu, is this the right place to ask?	06:01
zorglu_	Jucato: cool thanks, i got my edgy logout back :)	06:01
Evolution2	i have been trying to install the new version of wine. i untared it in my home directory but i dont understand what command i need to use to install it. btw, its wine 0.9.39	06:01
zorglu_	Jucato: thanks you are always so helpfull :)	06:01
Jucato	hahah	06:01
Jucato	you just got lucky :)	06:01
Jucato	!info wine	06:01
ardchoille	Jucato: Well, I'm glad you bugged him :)	06:02
ubotu	wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB	06:02
dr_willis	Thers some experimental repository of wine - i though for the latest releases.. for those that have to be cuttung edge. I guess. :)	06:02
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icecruncher	do you have to restart the system once you've edited the fstab and the mtab?	06:02
dr_willis	but ive not used them.	06:02
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dr_willis	icecruncher, i cant recall ever needing to edit the mtab.	06:03
Darkrift411	is there another place i could ask?	06:03
dr_willis	icecruncher, and it depends on whatyou did to the fstab.	06:03
Evolution2	so i should just stick to the adept wine	06:03
Evolution2	thats version 0.9.33	06:03
foose12	when i sety my desktop are to the maximim of 1280x1024, i gert purple vertical lines running down the screen about every 2 cm	06:03
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Darkrift411	id think its new enough Evolution2	06:03
dr_willis	Evolution2, if it works for what you need..id stick to it.	06:03
foose12	i have a samsubg 19inch	06:03
Jucato	Darkrift411: there is no need for you to compile (which is what you'll end up doing with that tarball/archive)	06:03
Darkrift411	thats not for me	06:03
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Darkrift411	im having the video probs :(	06:03
Evolution2	dr_willis: ok thanks	06:04
Evolution2	so to get rid of the untar just delete it right?	06:04
Jucato	Darkrift411: just add this line to your repositories "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main"	06:04
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Jucato	er sorry Darkrift411	06:04
Darkrift411	Jucato,	06:04
Darkrift411	heh	06:04
Jucato	Evolution2: there is no need for you to compile (which is what you'll end up doing with that tarball/archive)	06:04
Jucato	Evolution2: just add this line to your repositories "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main"	06:04
Darkrift411	dont think anyone saw my q:'	06:05
Darkrift411	s	06:05
Evolution2	as in konsole?	06:05
Jucato	Darkrift411: I saw. but no idea sorry	06:05
Jucato	Evolution2: in Adept or manually, either way	06:05
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dr_willis	http://wine.budgetdedicated.com feisty/main wine 0.9.39~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1	06:05
fritz	is there anyway 2 make windows background transparent...as in replace the white picture with a transparent one?	06:05
dr_willis	:) version 9.39 there.	06:05
Evolution2	thanks	06:05
Jucato	Evolution2: in Adept, go to Adept menu -> Manage Repositories -> Third party tab	06:06
Jucato	then add the line that I just gave you in quotes	06:06
Arwen	fritz, what window?	06:06
Jucato	(don't add the quotes)	06:06
Evolution2	ok	06:06
Arwen	without composite, you can use fake transparency if that suites your needs	06:06
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fritz	all windows	06:06
dr_willis	Ya got Fake Transparencies.. then ya got real ones.. :)	06:06
Arwen	nope	06:06
fritz	form konqueror	06:06
dr_willis	both are a bit on the useless side. I think.	06:06
Arwen	go get beryl (dead software) or compiz	06:06
fritz	allready have it	06:07
Darkrift411	beryl is dead?	06:07
fritz	but it runns really slow	06:07
fritz	on my computer	06:07
dr_willis	Thats the price you pay.	06:07
dr_willis	:)	06:07
fritz	no it's quite popular actually	06:07
fritz	^.^	06:07
dr_willis	Its dead as in the projects are merging...	06:07
icecruncher	ok, in fstab, what does the suid mean?	06:07
Darkrift411	damnit	06:07
dr_willis	icecruncher, 'suid/nosuid' disables/allows the use of suid binaries on the partition/filesystem	06:08
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icecruncher	dr_willis: suid binaries being biaries run with sudo?	06:08
dr_willis	icecruncher, 100% wrong. :)	06:08
dr_willis	suid binaries have the SUID bit set	06:08
icecruncher	;(	06:08
dr_willis	nothing to do with 'sudo'	06:08
icecruncher	?	06:09
dr_willis	Time to read/google about 'suid' bits I guess. :)	06:09
dr_willis	somthing that is 'suid root' when it runs by ANYONE gets ran as root.	06:09
dr_willis	that can be a big security issue.	06:09
dr_willis	thus the nosuid option. so people cant just pop in 'suid'ed' binaries to hack a system	06:09
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Some_Person	When you save a color scheme in kcontrol where does it go?	06:13
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zorglu_	q. i would like to prevent lighttpd to start automatically via /etc/init.d/lighttpd on boot, but still keep it installed, is there a ubuntu tool to disable it ?	06:14
dr_willis	i think in .kde somewhere. :)	06:14
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foose12	!channel	06:15
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about channel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	06:15
zorglu_	(beside removing /etc/rc.d/K* file i mean :)	06:15
foose12	!channels	06:15
ubotu	A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines	06:15
dr_willis	zorglu_, the runlevels have LINKS to that file.. remove the link.	06:15
dr_willis	zorglu_, cd /etc/rc2.d/ , and look at the links	06:15
icecruncher	dr_willis: does it matter in what order you put the oions in fstab?	06:15
zorglu_	dr_willis: yep the rc.d/K files ..	06:15
dr_willis	icecruncher, not that ive ever seen	06:15
zorglu_	dr_willis: ok you are right, no time for fancy solution :)	06:16
dr_willis	zorglu_, tweak the links to start/stop things.. and yes there are tools to do it.	06:16
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_4strO	zorglu_: in system /settings / advanced / services manager ? or something like this ?	06:16
dr_willis	fancy? :) removeing a link is fancy.. heh.	06:16
_4strO	zorglu_: in system settings / advanced / services manager ? or something like this ?	06:16
dr_willis	Huh., wonder what some of these do	06:16
dr_willis	S20kde-guidance	06:16
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zorglu_	_4strO: lookin	06:16
Arwen	wtf?	06:16
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Evolution2	dr_willis: after i out that line in my repository, adept doesnt load anymore. it welll me there is an error. i types "apt-get update" and it tell me that the wine line i just entered is "not known in like 39 in source list" how can i reverse this	06:17
_4strO	zorglu_: or system services	06:17
zorglu_	dr_willis: i know what guidance powermanager is a small applet	06:17
zorglu_	what=that	06:17
dr_willis	Evolution2, sounds like a typo on your part.	06:17
Evolution2	how do i reverse it	06:17
dr_willis	Evolution2, i just tacked that line to the end of mine and did a 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade'	06:18
Evolution2	so what should i type	06:18
dr_willis	Evolution2, i edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file manually :) so edit it and remove that line I guess.	06:18
dr_willis	or fix it	06:18
Evolution2	i dont get it	06:18
zorglu_	_4strO: hmm the 'system setting' apps is bugged on this one	06:18
zorglu_	_4strO: any idea of the command line they use ?	06:18
dr_willis	Evolution2, what part? editing a file?	06:18
Evolution2	how do you get to that file	06:18
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dr_willis	Evolution2, its a text file.. i fire up a text editor and edit it.	06:19
zorglu_	_4strO: i did it in the past but cant remember, something with sysv in it	06:19
_4strO	zorglu_: try with ALT+F2 then kcontrol	06:19
dr_willis	sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list	06:19
dr_willis	or similer	06:19
dr_willis	deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main	06:19
dr_willis	is the LAST line i have in that file	06:19
icecruncher	back it up first!	06:19
_4strO	lol	06:20
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icecruncher	i forget it to often	06:20
navets	hey is there a good php editor that I can use for debugging?	06:20
zorglu_	_4strO: maouaou i enter in a bug spiral:) kdesu kcontrol no more launch anything	06:21
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Evolution2	dr_willis: thanks	06:21
Evolution2	i had the quotes!	06:21
Evolution2	thats why	06:21
_4strO	zorglu_: no need kdesu	06:21
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zorglu_	_4strO: modifying /etc/rc.d without root ?	06:22
_4strO	zorglu_: no need to use kdesu to launch kcontrol	06:22
zorglu_	_4strO: in 'system service' when you click on 'admin mode', you get anything back ? here it goes 100% cpu for 20sec and then no more move with a large empty grey window	06:23
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_4strO	zorglu_: it will ask you the admin pass when it will need it	06:23
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_4strO	zorglu_:	06:23
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_4strO	i think you should restart X :p	06:23
Evolution2	dr_willis: how come the "full upgrade" button in adept is blacked out. it wont let me click on it anymore. it that normal?	06:23
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icecruncher	dr_willis: the dev/nodev in fstab means, dev; user can mount/	06:24
icecruncher	?	06:24
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_4strO	zorglu_: or kill the process who is eating all your CPU :p	06:24
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zorglu_	_4strO: the process eating the cpu is kcontrol probing for all the services	06:24
_4strO	lol	06:25
zorglu_	!info sysv-rc	06:25
ubotu	sysv-rc: System-V-like runlevel change mechanism. In component main, is required. Version 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu18 (feisty), package size 55 kB, installed size 268 kB	06:25
zorglu_	bla!	06:25
_4strO	that's weird	06:25
icecruncher	what does the dev/nodev in fstab mean, dev; user can mount?	06:26
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Evolution2	why is the "full upgrade" button in adept is blacked out. it wont let me click on it anymore. it that normal?	06:26
navets	does anyone know of a good php editior I can use for error checking?	06:27
zorglu_	_4strO: dr_willis: sudo update-rc.d -f lighttpd remove <- the official way :)	06:28
dr_willis	zorglu_, under redhat and other disrtos they got a 'service' command	06:29
dranas	i got a quick and easy question	06:29
dr_willis	zorglu_, offical way.. edit the links.. :)	06:29
zorglu_	dr_willis: :)	06:29
dranas	how do i change the k menu icon?	06:29
dr_willis	icecruncher, all the fstab option are covered in 'man fstab' i do belive	06:29
icecruncher	dr_willis: not ver extensively though	06:29
zorglu_	!upgrade \| Evolution2	06:29
ubotu	Evolution2: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)	06:29
dr_willis	icecruncher, theres 2 fstab man pages I beliuve.. one for the command and one for the file	06:30
icecruncher	dr_willis: would you recomend user for a usb drive	06:30
_4strO	zorglu_: lol ok the official GEEK way ;)	06:30
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dr_willis	ahh its man mount. :)	06:31
dr_willis	icecruncher, depends on the filesystem, on the usb drive	06:31
_4strO	but the official clean way too	06:31
icecruncher	dr_willis: auto :)	06:31
icecruncher	dr_willis: dr_willis: as in should the user be able to mount it or ratehr automount?	06:31
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dr_willis	icecruncher, its rather silly to even worry about the options then. since a great many will NOT apply to every filesystem	06:32
dr_willis	nosuid/nodev do not apply to vfat filesystems for example	06:32
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icecruncher	dr_willis: true, but I wnt my usb drive to mount automatically as soon as i plug it in, what seeting woudl i need?	06:32
dr_willis	by adding a fstab entry - the things will stop being automounted by KDE - i do belive	06:32
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dr_willis	icecruncher, Mine does that allready.. well it pops up a dialog.	06:33
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icecruncher	dr_willis; sou I don't need a fstab at all for it?	06:33
omega	hy i'm back	06:33
omega	now i don't have any more the titlle bar on every window	06:34
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omega	anyone???	06:37
llp78	Hello: is it possible to enable Java on konqueror?	06:37
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llp78	and how would I do it?	06:37
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Admiral_Chicago	llp78: do you have java installed?	06:37
llp78	Well, i dunno - but it works in firefox and not in konqueror	06:38
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llp78	But, I prefer Konqueror to firefox as its quicker.. IMO	06:38
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_4strO	!java	06:38
ubotu	To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.	06:38
llp78	Java is installed - I can access it from the shell	06:39
icecruncher	ok, another thing in fstab that keeps me wondering is the atime. any explanation?	06:39
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Admiral_Chicago	llp78: go to setting >> configure konqueror >> plugins	06:39
llp78	So whats the next steps.... anyone	06:39
Admiral_Chicago	then click search for plugins	06:40
_4strO	llp78: did you have it on firefox ?	06:40
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dr_willis	icecruncher, check google, and mount man pages. :) it explains all that.. and correct to autount my usb gizmos i do NOT have any entrys for them in fstab	06:40
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Evolution2	how come the "full upgrade" button in adept is blacked out. it wont let me click on it anymore. it that normal?	06:41
llp78	yes, it works good in firefox,	06:41
_4strO	llp78: look on configuration / konqueror configuration / external modules	06:41
icecruncher	dr_willis: what about your mtab?	06:41
dr_willis	ive NEVER edited the mtab file	06:41
dr_willis	not sure it ever needs to be edited	06:41
llp78	Admiral_Chicago: i searched for pluggins and nothing appeared to happen	06:42
genii	llp78: There's some stuff about it here http://www.konqueror.org/javahowto/	06:42
dr_willis	mtab is made by the system as needed	06:42
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llp78	genii: good link - thanks	06:42
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dr_willis	bbl	06:42
genii	llp78: Looks like it depends on a package called kjas	06:42
omega	should i install the updates for kubuntu?	06:42
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_4strO	omega: yes	06:43
omega	tanks	06:43
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icecruncher	would anyone mind looking at your mtab file and tell me if there is a entry for usb drives?	06:45
_4strO	mmm	06:45
_4strO	icecruncher: the only USB peripheral i have are keyboard and mouse, and they dont appear in my mtab	06:47
omega	how can i install nfs?	06:47
Minataku	Heya, genii	06:47
Minataku	What's up?	06:47
icecruncher	_4strO: no usb drive?	06:47
genii	Minataku 12 minutes left of my lunch break :)	06:48
Minataku	genii: Heehee	06:48
_4strO	icecruncher: procbususb /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0	06:48
Minataku	genii: Manage to ship that box out?	06:48
_4strO	thats the only line refer to usb	06:48
icecruncher	dunno	06:48
genii	Minataku BTW I have to send you several packages because doing it in one shot is horribly expensive unfortunately	06:49
Minataku	genii: Eep	06:49
Minataku	It'll probably end up adding up to that anyway >.<	06:49
Minataku	How expensive, for my reference?	06:49
genii	Minataku No worries just it will take longer etc	06:49
_4strO	omega: K / system settings / share ?	06:49
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Minataku	Yeah, I'll have to dodge the multiple packages around my dad >.<	06:50
genii	Minataku Well to ship everything in one shot woulda been around $130 (Canadian)	06:50
Minataku	AIEEEE	06:50
Minataku	That's about $100 US	06:50
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genii	Somewhere in there, yeah	06:50
Minataku	They ship by volume or what?!	06:51
genii	by weight	06:51
Minataku	Then it'll just add up to $130CDN anyway ;o;	06:51
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Minataku	Let's shift to PM	06:51
genii	Minataku Yeah but I can stretch it out over a month or 6 weeks and it won't be so painful all at once LOL	06:51
Minataku	Heehee	06:52
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dranas	so anyone know how to change the k menu icon?	06:59
rajkalyan	anyone	07:01
rajkalyan	i want to too	07:01
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ardchoille	dranas: In your icon theme you will find an icon named kmenu or something like that, there are several.. one for each resolution (16x16, 22x22, 36x36, etc). You need to change those icons to change the menu icon	07:07
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ardchoille	Or, you can install and use kbfx, and that'll do it too.	07:07
ardchoille	dranas: /usr/share/icons/$ICON_THEME/$SIZE/apps/kmenu.png	07:08
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dranas	ty	07:11
ardchoille	You're welcome :)	07:11
jussi01	ok, I changed my icons around, and it changed the amarok icon. however when i changed them back/different, the amarok icon is still the wrong one, is there a way to change only 1 icon?	07:12
ardchoille	jussi01: To change just one icon, you'll have to go through ewach one of the resolution folders in your icon theme and change all those icons.	07:13
jussi01	gah, how do I get my amarok icon back...	07:14
jussi01	i have a thing that looks like a feckin volume control right now....	07:14
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ardchoille	jussi01: Go to /usr/share/icons/$ICON_THEME/$SIZE/apps and fix it.	07:15
ardchoille	Probably amarok.png	07:15
jussi01	ardchoille: thanks... i fixed the naughty thing...	07:16
ardchoille	:)	07:16
ardchoille	Anyone use kbfx and know how to keep the menu on the right from scrolling? I'd like it to be a long menu, like the kmenu	07:16
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Admiral_Chicago	i have two computers running on a LAN. is there a way to detatch a screen session on this computer and reattach on the other computer?	07:18
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Yorokobi	!grubfix	07:18
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about grubfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:18
Yorokobi	!fix grub	07:19
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about fix grub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:19
ardchoille	!grub	07:19
ubotu	grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	07:19
Yorokobi	There was a fix option for the bot	07:19
ardchoille	!search fix	07:19
ubotu	Found: aptfix, xorg.conf, adeptcrashfix, adept fix, fixres, artifacts-#ubuntu-effects, exploit, questions-#ubuntu-classroom-chat, adept crash fix, fixgrub	07:19
ardchoille	!fixgrub	07:19
Yorokobi	!fixgrub	07:19
ubotu	grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	07:19
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ardchoille	Yorokobi: ^^	07:20
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Yorokobi	wee	07:20
Yorokobi	thanks, ardchoille	07:20
ardchoille	You can search :)	07:20
ardchoille	You're welcome :)	07:20
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ardchoille	Yorokobi: But, if the channel is busy, might be better to /msg ubotu and seach in a pm	07:20
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Yorokobi	but thanks ardchoille	07:21
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ardchoille	:)	07:21
Yorokobi	etiquette is a good thing	07:21
ardchoille	Gotta love that bot :)	07:21
Kjellviz	hi there, i installed kubuntu/kde desktop on a ubuntu unstallation, how can i remove ubuntu/gnome ?	07:21
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Kjellviz	man that was a poor sentence ><	07:22
Admiral_Chicago	Kjellviz: sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop	07:22
Admiral_Chicago	then I suggest: sudo aptitude autoclean	07:22
Kjellviz	ok that'll remove gnome and all gtk apps+tools ?	07:22
Admiral_Chicago	yea	07:22
Kjellviz	aite sounds good	07:22
ardchoille	Kjellviz: You're wanting to stick with kde?	07:22
Kjellviz	ye	07:22
ardchoille	Kjellviz: Try this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde	07:22
ardchoille	Not sure if that applies, but you can tell better than me.	07:23
Kjellviz	i prefer gnome when it comes to managing my OS, but so many of the programs i use have the best alternatives made for KDE :P	07:23
ardchoille	Yikes! That's quite a long list of removes	07:23
Kjellviz	yeah!	07:24
Kjellviz	another question though	07:24
Kjellviz	theres a coupld of screensavers in gnome that i really like	07:24
Kjellviz	can i copy them over to kde first ?	07:25
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ardchoille	It doesn't hurt to have gnome and kde installed at the same time and gnome apps run in kde and vice versa	07:25
Kjellviz	i know	07:25
Kjellviz	but my install is rather funky atm	07:25
ardchoille	Kjellviz: From what I understand, those gnome screensavers are just hacked xscreensavers.. should be available in xscreensaver and kde	07:25
Kjellviz	for starters its still using gnome to manage my screensaver	07:25
Yorokobi	Kjellviz, or use fluxbox with apps from both gnome and KDE	07:26
ardchoille	And I remember seeing a bunch of screensavers while looking through the repos	07:26
Kjellviz	whatever change i make in kde doesent apply to screensavers at all	07:26
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Kjellviz	Yorokobi: fluxbox ?	07:26
Evolution2	i need the wine repositories in adept. can someone assist	07:26
ardchoille	Kjellviz: uninstall gnome-screensaver ?	07:27
Kjellviz	and, the default apps doesent run to nice, i uninstalled transmission but it still tries to use it as default torrent app	07:27
Arwen	is it possible to ssh into a vmware guest from the host OS?	07:27
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Kjellviz	ardchoille: ye that was part of what i wanted to accomplish by removing gnome	07:27
Arwen	anyone?	07:27
Yorokobi	Kjellviz, fluxbox is another window manager (from Blackbox). Its faster/lighter than KDE & gnome	07:27
Kjellviz	hummm	07:27
Kjellviz	yet another alternative	07:27
dr_willis	dozen + window managers ya can use. :)	07:28
Kjellviz	when will i have time to stop tinkering and start using my comp ? :P	07:28
Kjellviz	^^	07:28
dr_willis	matchbox (not related to fluxbox) , windowmaker, icewm,	07:28
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Arwen	beryl, compiz,...	07:28
dr_willis	xfce, sawfish,	07:28
Arwen	xfce isn't a window manager	07:28
Arwen	FAIL!	07:28
dr_willis	compwiz is beryl now also.. isent it.	07:28
Kjellviz	no	07:28
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Kjellviz	beryl is compiz	07:29
Kjellviz	^^	07:29
dr_willis	and he was asking for Light weight alternatives.	07:29
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dr_willis	Kjellviz, wasent that what i said. :) in reverse order..	07:29
Arwen	dr_willis, other way around	07:29
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Kjellviz	who was asking for lightweight ?	07:29
Arwen	yeah?	07:29
Arwen	this is #kubuntu, we don't know what lightweight even means	07:29
dr_willis	<Yorokobi> Kjellviz, fluxbox is another window manager (from Blackbox). Its faster/lighter than KDE & gnome	07:29
dr_willis	<Kjellviz> hummm	07:29
dr_willis	just go install them ALL and have KDM load one randomly!	07:30
Kjellviz	haha	07:30
Arwen	heh	07:30
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Kjellviz	good idea ^^	07:30
Kjellviz	no im not looking for lightweigth at all	07:30
Kjellviz	im content with kde so far	07:30
ardchoille	Kjellviz: If you're interested in window managers, have a look here: http://xwinman.org/	07:30
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dr_willis	i still rember the old days when gnome kept changing their default windo wmanager every month...	07:30
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Kjellviz	but i installed it on a ubuntu install	07:30
Kjellviz	and ive got some strange behaviour	07:31
ardchoille	dr_willis: lol, yeah and they ended up with the worst one too.	07:31
dr_willis	Kjellviz, thats normally how i install it.. with no problems	07:31
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dr_willis	ardchoille, yep.. lets go with the one NO one has ever heard of!	07:31
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dr_willis	and that dosent let you change settings!	07:31
ardchoille	Yeah	07:31
Kjellviz	well ive still got loads of gnome stuff controlling what kde should be controlling	07:31
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ardchoille	dr_willis: That's the main reason I dumped it for openbox in gnome	07:31
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ardchoille	Kjellviz: Have you switched from gdm to kdm yet?	07:32
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terayam	I need some help getting networkmanager to recognize my wusb11 adapter as a network device	07:32
Kjellviz	ardchoille: please elaborate	07:32
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ardchoille	Kjellviz: gdm (gnome display manager), kdm (kde display manager).. those control the login screen as well as a few other things.	07:33
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Kjellviz	ive got kde login and desktop	07:33
Kjellviz	thats all i know	07:33
Kjellviz	:P	07:33
ardchoille	Then you're using kdm	07:33
Kjellviz	im new to linux as well	07:33
Kjellviz	hehe	07:34
dr_willis	you did install 'kubuntu-desktop' ?	07:34
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Kjellviz	yes	07:34
ardchoille	Kjellviz: Did it ask you to choose between kdm and gdm?	07:34
Kjellviz	but first i installed kde-desktop	07:34
Kjellviz	then kubuntu-desktop	07:34
terayam	the internet works great for the most part but the networkmanager doesn't display my device in it's network device menu	07:34
Kjellviz	nyeh	07:34
ardchoille	Kjellviz: kubuntu-desktop is just an empty meta package, it exists only to pull in the things kde needs to run properly	07:34
dr_willis	terayam, what 'device' ?	07:35
terayam	dr_wills: It's a linksys wusb11 2.6	07:35
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Kjellviz	ardchoille: ok	07:37
Kjellviz	not sure if i dare removing gnome lol	07:37
ardchoille	Kjellviz: Might be easier to backup your personal stuff and install kubuntu from the kubuntu cd	07:38
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ardchoille	That's what I did to switch from gnome to kde, less hassle.	07:38
Kjellviz	yes i was thinking of that alternative	07:38
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daquino	what is ksuspend_usbd?	07:39
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ardchoille	Kjellviz: That option would likely make your hard drive much less fragmented as well as start youoff with a fresh install. But, it's up to you.	07:42
Kjellviz	aint it possible to install kubuntu with home on a seperate partition so that a reinstall wont touch home ?	07:42
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ardchoille	Yes	07:43
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ardchoille	But I forgot how I did it.	07:43
hasan	hi guys	07:43
daquino	you just create another partition	07:43
hasan	i try to initiatate adept_installer	07:43
slash	ciao	07:43
hasan	but it says some other application prevents it	07:43
daquino	Kjellviz: are you familiar with linux at the cli level ?	07:44
hasan	as far as i can see there is no application	07:44
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hasan	where can i list the application or process blocking it?	07:44
pag	!fixadept \| hasan	07:44
ubotu	hasan: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a	07:44
Kjellviz	daquino: probably not since i dunno what cli level is :P	07:44
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ardchoille	cli = command line interface (ie terminal)	07:45
Kjellviz	im not afraid of it if thats what u ask hehe	07:45
Kjellviz	i have run some commands and started my microsoft career in dos	07:45
Kjellviz	but im not very familiar no	07:46
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hasan	i just want to thank ubotu	07:47
hasan	:)	07:47
hasan	u r great	07:47
hasan	:)	07:47
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GrahamA	Hey	07:47
daquino	Kjellviz: well is your system allready installed or is this a new install ?	07:47
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ardchoille	hasan: ubotu is a bot, give him a botsnack instead ;)	07:48
ardchoille	!botsnack	07:48
ubotu	Yum! Err, I mean, APT!	07:48
Evolution2	ubotu: could you tell me how i can fix an adept problem	07:48
Kjellviz	daquino: its a ubuntu install which i installed kubuntu on top of using apt-get	07:48
ardchoille	!bot	07:49
ubotu	I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots	07:49
sayers	How do I set dolphin as my main file manager?	07:49
GrahamA	Dolphin?	07:49
sayers	In Gusty	07:49
Kjellviz	daquino: but i was thinkin of reinstalling kubuntu from scratch	07:49
GrahamA	OIC	07:49
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GrahamA	Hows KDE 4?	07:49
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sayers	a lot better	07:49
GrahamA	kmenu > system settings > default applications, try that	07:50
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sayers	It is a file manager, don't know if this will work	07:50
GrahamA	I'm on Feisty, I don't know either :D	07:51
daquino	Kjellviz: ah you dont need too do that... anyway take your ubuntu cd and boot into the live desktop... then use gparted to resize your root partition down to free up the desired space.... then create a new partition in the free space... then mount both partitions... move all the files from home directory over to the new partition... then edit your /etc/fstab to mount the new partition to /home... reboot	07:51
Hunding	is KDE 4.0 stable?	07:51
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sayers	no it's testing	07:51
daquino	Kjellviz: of course /etc/fstab refers to the fstab file in your "root partition" not on the live cd ramdisk	07:52
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Kjellviz	daquino: ok, but the reason for reinstalling is that installing kde on ubuntu has rendered some weird behaviour on my comp	07:53
Kjellviz	that and prob some newb tweaking ive done hehe	07:53
daquino	wtf you talking about ?	07:53
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Alata	Hullo folks, not a Kubuntu question per se, but, what would be the easiest way to check if a certain package is installed? I.e. from a shell script?	07:54
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Kjellviz	daquino: im talking about that my install is fubar and the easiest way to fix is prob reinstall	07:55
Kjellviz	and when i do reinstall, i wondered if i could put home on a seperate partition for future use	07:55
daquino	Alata: dpkg --listfiles somepackage &> /dev/null; if [ "$?" -eq 0 ] ; then echo "package exists" ; fi	07:55
daquino	theres a dirty trick for you	07:56
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daquino	Kjellviz: yes my question was what is if foobard	07:56
Hunding	daquino: lol...little ove the top there with that package command there	07:56
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ardchoille	daquino: That won't list packages installed from scripts (./configure) will it?	07:57
Kjellviz	daquino: like gnome still controlling my deafult apps and screensaver settings	07:57
daquino	Hunding: hah why ?	07:57
Alata	Hmm, I'll try it out, thanks. :-)	07:57
daquino	ardchoille: nothing will... build a deb when you build from source	07:57
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daquino	Kjellviz: wtf you talking about ? i installed every single ubuntu and its running fine	07:58
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ardchoille	daquino: Ah, ok. I was asking because that's what he needed. I haven't needed to compile anything for two years.	07:59
Kjellviz	well maybe you did, but it sure dint go well here	07:59
Kjellviz	any changes i do in kde's tool for managing screensaver dont do shit	07:59
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Kjellviz	but if i fire up gnome-screensaver (think thats the name) then i can change screensaver etc	07:59
ardchoille	Kjellviz: That's because you're running gnome screensaver, not the screensaver in kde	07:59
ardchoille	kill gnome screensaver and start kde's screensaver.	08:00
Kjellviz	kill it how ?	08:00
Kjellviz	and yes, the problems i have is more likely to be caused by my n00bishness than to a error in (k)ubuntu	08:01
Kjellviz	but its still a friggin error to me	08:01
Kjellviz	><	08:01
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Hunding	daquino: cause your command was far more than needed for the question...a simple sudo apt-cache search packagename will tell you if a package is installed or not	08:03
gary_	How do I convert an AVI in order that I can place it onto a DVD for viewing in a home dvd hi-fi system ?	08:03
gary_	I have converted the AVI once using Tovid into an M2V	08:04
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gary_	I also have K3B installed	08:04
jaro	Hi, i have a question: what can I do to fix the following errormessage : insmod: error inserting 'stk11xx.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module ??	08:04
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Evolution2	/cs list	08:04
coreymon77	i believe k3b can do it	08:04
Evolution2	!list	08:04
ubotu	I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots	08:04
gary_	it can	08:04
Evolution2	how do you get the list of chans on this server	08:05
gary_	provided the file fits in with what K3B desires :)	08:05
coreymon77	gary_: i think that burning a video dvd through k3b will automatically convert it to play in a regular player	08:05
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gary_	error message of:	08:06
gary_	found files bigger than 2 GB. These files will only be fully accessible if mounted with UDF	08:07
gary_	the project does not contain all necessary DVD video files	08:07
daquino	Hunding: he said he wants a scriptable way.... sure you could use apt-cache but then youd have to filter the output to look for something like "installed = no/yes"	08:07
daquino	ardchoille: what about pidgin ? anyway i liked compiling my own stuff	08:08
gary_	the resulting dvd will most likely not be playable on a hi-fi DVD player	08:08
gary_	could not determine size of resulting image file.	08:08
gary_	any ideas ?	08:08
coreymon77	daquino: you dont have to compile pidgin, tehre is an ubuntu deb for it	08:09
ardchoille	daquino: If it isn't in the repos, I don't use it. Which is why I've never had a crash or problem and my systems (11 computers) are super stable.	08:09
coreymon77	ardchoille: pidgin isnt necessarily in the repos, but that doesnt mean that there is not an ubuntu deb for it	08:09
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daquino	coreymon77: since when ?	08:10
daquino	ardchoille: cute man ... id like to know why my usb doesn't even send messages to hotplug when i come back from hibernation	08:10
coreymon77	daquino: www.getdeb.net	08:11
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Nuked	this is going to be an odd question, but ill shoot for it	08:13
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ardchoille	coreymon77: True, but I stick to the repos.. just personal prefs.	08:13
Nuked	is there a way I can transfer one file from kubuntu to a windows computer on my lan?	08:13
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zipper	Nuked, there are several ways	08:15
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tiiimos	I've installed nvidia-glx-new package and than renameed "nv" into "nvidia" and when I restarted KDE and I wasn't able to come back... any i deas?	08:15
zipper	you could use an ftp server, or you could use "samba" under linux, wich is compatible with windows' filesharing	08:15
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ardchoille	Nuked: Is the windows drive ntfs?	08:16
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tiiimos	I've installed nvidia-glx-new package and than renameed "nv" into "nvidia" and when I restarted KDE and I wasn't able to come back... any i deas? I have 7600 GT geforce...	08:17
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osh	Latest kernel upgrade (I think) broke my X in a bad way. Whenever X starts the whole machine freezes. Any idea on where to start looking?	08:17
zipper	are there any good ways to break X? :)	08:18
rustalot	Does anyone know of a shell script for Konqueror that will let me easily mount/unmount disk images?	08:18
osh	Can't even do ctrl-alt-backspace to get back to prompt. or Ctrl-1 for VT.	08:18
ardchoille	zipper: lol	08:18
Evolution2	Evolution2: i would like to know what third party repositories i need to have in adept package manager. and i also iam wondering why the "full upgrade" button is shaded	08:18
ardchoille	osh: You can start with reading /var/log/Xorg*	08:18
osh	zipper: It'd been better if I could get back to a terminal afterwards, not just reboot.	08:19
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Nuked	ardchoille: yes its ntfs	08:20
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Nuked	zipper: please share	08:20
ardchoille	Nuked: Then you're going to need something to enable you to write to ntfs, I think it's fuse.	08:20
ardchoille	!fuse	08:20
ubotu	Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse	08:20
Nuked	over a network?	08:20
ardchoille	You're still writing to an ntfs drive.. network or not.	08:21
osh	ardchoille: Yeah. Did that. No errors in there but the wacon ones. Nothing in dmesg either. :-/	08:21
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Nuked	excellent	08:21
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zipper	Nuked, already did. you could use an ftp server, or you could use "samba" under linux, wich is compatible with windows' filesharing	08:21
ardchoille	osh: Ok, those wacom errors are easy to get rid of once you have xorg working again.	08:21
Nuked	samba sounds promising	08:22
Nuked	how do I do it?	08:22
Nuked	!samba	08:22
ubotu	samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT	08:22
osh	ardchoille: Yeah. Very non-critical and not something that would freeze my box.	08:22
coreymon77	zipper: what i did was sliced a big off from my 80 gig ntfs drive and formatted it as fat32, so that both oses could safely read and write to it, i use it as a storage drive	08:22
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coreymon77	bit*	08:22
ardchoille	osh: Right	08:22
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zipper	coreymon77, i did the same, but that wasnt his question	08:23
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Nuked	zipper that seems like a lot of work	08:23
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zipper	Nuked, setting up an ftp server in linux is pretty simple	08:23
zipper	dont know achat	08:23
gediminas	This weekend I installed Kubuntu 7.04 in my cousin's PC. He lives in another town. (and he is 11 years old)	08:24
gediminas	When he had questions, I tried to answer them, installed stuff personally using that desktop sharing thing.	08:24
gediminas	HOWEVER now he has a serious problem: The keyboard doesn't seem to work when he logged into KDE. Console works fine though. What program could he have deleted or installed, or what settings has he turned on accidentally that prevent keyboard from working? I tried to fix it using that desktop sharing, but I couldn't find the problem.	08:24
Nuked	never done it before zipper...	08:24
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andrey_	Hello	08:24
dale	How can I install kde4?	08:24
zipper	Nuked, then you're lucky, you're in for some good fun :)	08:24
Nuked	zipper lead the way!	08:24
gediminas	does anyone know what could prevent the keyboard from working in KDE?	08:24
osh	dale: Wait until october. Then apt-get install kde4.	08:24
osh	dale: ;-)	08:25
zipper	Nuked, there is no way for me to lead. It's all in the links you got from ubotu	08:25
dale	Can I install it I want to see what it is like.	08:25
zipper	Nuked, either that, or search the ubuntu wiki	08:25
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osh	dale: There were some instructions about it on kubuntu.org but have a look at kde.org as they have a live-cd with kde4 on it.	08:26
gediminas	please help me	08:26
dale	Will kubuntu gusty have it?	08:26
osh	dale: probably the safer bet.	08:26
osh	dale: Not likely.	08:27
osh	dale: that gutsy will have kde4.	08:27
dale	:(	08:27
dale	October is ages away.	08:27
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coreymon77	dale: wait unitl october, gutsy will probably not have kde4 preloaded, but it will be available for download when it comes out	08:28
coreymon77	dale: kde4 is not finished yet, meaning its unstable and buggy	08:28
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osh	dale: I think the second alpha is out june/juli sometime. Have a look at that live-cd. Should give you an idea.	08:29
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dale	Im downloading it now 73%....	08:29
dale	Gota love broadband ;)	08:29
mth54	ciaocioacioaciaociaociaociaociao	08:30
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coreymon77	dale: that i will agree with	08:30
osh	dale: that's probably alpha-1 you're downloading, right? It's VERY alpha quality.	08:30
dale	Its a suse live cd	08:31
dale	yes it is.	08:31
osh	dale: yeah. And don't expect much from it. nepomuk didn't even start when I tried it.	08:31
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dale	kk	08:31
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tiiimos	how can I checked if driver is installed for nvidia, I just installed nvidia-glx-new package	08:32
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osh	!ati	08:33
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	08:33
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Ornedan	Hi. Where does the boot process get logged to in Kubuntu 7.04?	08:34
see-g	Ornedan: I guess that would be /var/log/boot	08:35
osh	Ornedan: or dmesg if you want to have a look at those messages.	08:35
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ardchoille	What exactly is dmesg for? And why is it differnet than /var/log/* ?	08:36
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tiiimos	is my driver installed of nvidia http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27463/	08:36
Ornedan	I'm interested in the service messages, so I guess it would be /var/log/boot. Except the file didn't seem to get updated since I went from edgy -> feisty	08:37
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dale	What would you say the best linux distro is?	08:38
ardchoille	kubuntu, of course ;)	08:38
ardchoille	Seriously, this distro ROCKS!	08:38
GrahamA	It does like...	08:38
GrahamA	Rox0rz ,my s0x0rz	08:39
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ardchoille	DELL seems to like it too :)	08:39
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dale	Is dell still supporting ubuntu?	08:39
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ardchoille	YEs, and they are expanding their Ubuntu line too.	08:40
roho	so i was trying to connect to the nxserver on this machine, it worked yesterday. but i get a bunch of kde-related errors. could someone look at the output and at least give me a clue as to what i'd do to fix the problem?	08:40
ardchoille	http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS6756576859.html	08:40
rustalot	Is there a list of Konqueror plugins that I can download somewhere?	08:40
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ubuntu__	bjour	08:41
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roho	ok, maybe someone could tell me at least what "kicker: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Unable to create io-slave:" means?	08:43
roho	there were a bunch of io-slave errors, actually	08:43
lupul	hi. are there other dc++ clients beside valknut & dcpp?	08:43
ardchoille	roho: That error has to do with the kicker (desktop panel). Have you installed new panel applets lately?	08:43
roho	yeah	08:44
ardchoille	roho:	08:44
roho	well, they were just added, i didn't install them	08:44
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ardchoille	Try disabling the ones you installed and see if that helps. If it helps, you'll know what to troubleshoot.	08:44
ardchoille	added, right.	08:44
roho	here is the output: http://sial.org/pbot/25844	08:44
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roho	well, i have no idea. i've just moved the panels around	08:45
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roho	you know, i'd pay for good support. community support is so fickle, eh?	08:48
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ardchoille	roho: ouch!	08:48
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roho	well, it's nothing against you	08:48
ardchoille	roho: Well, there's support here, there's also http://ubuntuforums.org and a few others.	08:49
roho	yeah, i've been there. thanks.	08:49
ardchoille	No, I meant ouch wrt that output you pasted.	08:49
roho	yeah.	08:49
roho	i can't make heads or tails of it	08:49
roho	but, i have seen one error before, when i run a program from a terminal	08:49
ardchoille	roho: You haven't by chance used any third party scripts like automatix have you ?	08:49
roho	this one: X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3	08:50
roho	no	08:50
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dale	I like vista	08:53
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dale	Go microsoft!	08:53
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dale	Vista is the greatest OS	08:53
ardchoille	dale: Please stop	08:53
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dale	lol I am only joking.	08:53
ardchoille	Oh, I thought you were drunk or something.	08:54
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dale	I was trying to see what others would say.	08:54
dale	I must say I am not a microsoft fan, but vista is very impressive.	08:55
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mangz74	hmm	08:57
roho	dale: that's called trolling, and it isn't very good irc manners.	08:57
mangz74	flamebaiting?	08:57
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peanutb	flamebating can also get you kicked	08:58
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sayers	I wish my Mother Board had acpi :(	08:59
dale	Whats acpi?	08:59
peanutb	!acpi	08:59
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:59
sayers	wow...	08:59
zipper	dale, impressive? Why? Cus' it can do the same thing as windows xp, only slower?	08:59
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peanutb	the most dreaded part of the kernel	08:59
zipper	dale, acpi has to do with power management	08:59
roho	!kicker	09:00
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:00
roho	hm	09:00
zipper	sayers, your motherboard does indeed have acpi	09:00
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sayers	No it indeed does not :0	09:00
zipper	sayers, unless you're using hardware from the last decade :P	09:00
peanutb	!katapult	09:00
ubotu	katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.	09:00
sayers	No the makers at sony didn't put it in	09:00
sayers	APM and ACPI don't work. They thought making their own would be a better idea	09:00
roho	thanks peanut.	09:01
dale	zipper: Not if you have a decent setup.	09:01
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zipper	sayers, so you're not able to power off your PC using the power button?	09:01
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zipper	dale, yes, also then. A decent setup would still be faster running winXP than vista.	09:01
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sayers	zipper: I can do that but that is a button connected directly to the motherboard. The Kmenu shutoff doesnt work	09:01
zipper	dale, that said, i think superFetch and those other buzz-words may become pretty cool once vista have gotten a few patches	09:02
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zipper	sayers, you sure it's not just a matter of linux not supporting acpi for your motherboard, rather than it doesnt have it?	09:02
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dale	And a decent crack.	09:02
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zipper	dont care much about cracks, i get all MS products for free	09:02
sayers	zipper: they had to make a program for it to work on windows	09:02
Daisuke_Ido	a vista troll? in MY #kubuntu?	09:03
zipper	sayers, still, they wouldn't be able to make such a program if your motherboard didnt support it	09:03
Daisuke_Ido	FOAD.	09:03
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sayers	zipper: True Linux doesnt support the motherboard "No ACPI support in kernel, or incorrect acpi_path ("/proc/acpi")."	09:04
zipper	sayers, look in your bios settings, i'm sure you'll find either APM or ACPI settings there	09:04
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sayers	Hm I guess, but last time I looked nothing.	09:04
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kharloss	hi there . i have a problem setup a virtual host for apache . when i try to restart my httpd	09:05
kharloss	[Wed Jun 27 22:03:50 2007] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts	09:06
kharloss	httpd (pid 3626?) not running	09:06
kharloss	any solution ?	09:06
kharloss	i guess it`s a minor problem but how can i found it ?	09:06
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FireHazard17	can some one tell what kde's wm is?	09:07
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ardchoille	FireHazard17: kwin	09:07
peanutb	kharloss, did you do a a2ensite?	09:07
FireHazard17	thank you	09:07
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FireHazard17	thank you very much that just fixed my comp for me :)	09:08
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ardchoille	That fixed your comp?	09:09
ardchoille	Well, You're welcome :)	09:09
ALI1	Enter text here...	09:09
ardchoille	ALI1: hahaha	09:09
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FireHazard17	it did i had run compiz --replace and i guess compiz wasnt compiled right and i was stuck with no window manager and to fix it i had to run kwin --replace	09:10
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ardchoille	FireHazard17: Ah, yeah.	09:12
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kharloss	yes peanutb i did a2ensite	09:15
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peanutb	kharloss, where did you put the site config file?	09:16
kharloss	but "/etc/apache2/sites-available$ /etc/init.d/apache2 reload	09:16
kharloss	* Reloading apache 2.0 configuration... [Wed Jun 27 22:14:19 2007] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts	09:16
kharloss	httpd not running, trying to start	09:16
kharloss	(13): make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :443	09:16
kharloss	no listening sockets available, shutting down	09:16
kharloss	Unable to open logs	09:16
kharloss	"	09:16
peanutb	sudo?	09:16
sacater	peanutb: hi	09:16
sacater	peanutb: did you get my email?	09:16
kharloss	/etc/apache2/sites-available$ /etc/init.d/apache2 reload	09:17
kharloss	* Reloading apache 2.0 configuration... [Wed Jun 27 22:14:19 2007] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts	09:17
kharloss	httpd not running, trying to start	09:17
kharloss	(13): make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :443	09:17
kharloss	no listening sockets available, shutting down	09:17
kharloss	Unable to open logs	09:17
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peanutb	kharloss, do sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload	09:17
kharloss	i do it .	09:17
kharloss	sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload	09:17
kharloss	* Reloading apache 2.0 configuration... [Wed Jun 27 22:17:39 2007] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts	09:17
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Alata	I would like to find out if any package in the (k)ubuntu repositories provides a file "xml2lst.pl". How would I do to find out?	09:23
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Narada	hi all; how do i get quake2 to run on the left screen in a twinview setup	09:24
Narada	it's the default ubuntu x twinview install	09:25
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rockets	Where do I go to view my chat history in kopete	09:30
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BluesKaj	rockets, look around	09:33
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khaije1	are there any eye-candy type system monitors i can put on my desktop?	09:36
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Evolution2	how do i upgrade my KDE	09:37
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Evolution2	i have KDE 3.5.6	09:37
apogee	hi all	09:37
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apogee	IK would appreciate it if someone could help me pls	09:37
apogee	I need to change the refresh rate of my monitor ,Gnome is up and runnig 1024x768 @ 60hz currently	09:38
BluesKaj	!KDE	09:38
ubotu	KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.	09:38
apogee	how do i change the monitor device?	09:39
BluesKaj	to what ?	09:39
BluesKaj	apogee, first of all , do have linux drivers installed for you graphics card and your monitor ?	09:40
apogee	BLUESKAJ : My monitor now isnt setup properly.Id like to change it to its specific model identified its na NEC Multisync 75F	09:40
apogee	blueskaj the Radeon 9200 is correctly identified and set	09:41
apogee	the NEC monitor is not	09:41
BluesKaj	look in sys/settings/Monitor&Dispaly/Hardware	09:42
BluesKaj	apogee, admin mode , look for the monitor drivers for your model, and choose the one that applies , then apply	09:43
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UbuntuServerUse1	I have a simple question, I'm trying to delete media/server (I created it) with rm -f /media/server and it says : rm cannot remove `/media/server': Is a directory how I remove it?	09:43
apogee	blueskaj in kde system >preferences >screen resolution? or to this systems hard disk directory?	09:44
UbuntuServerUse1	nvm gotta use rmdir	09:45
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apogee	blueskaj : admin mode means log in as root ?	09:45
BluesKaj	apogee, k-menu systemsettings/monitor&display/admin mode/hardware	09:46
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BluesKaj	when you choose admin mode it'll ask for your pwd to become sudo	09:47
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BluesKaj	or root	09:47
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apogee	blueskaj should i log out to find this K menu ? then choose admin mode login as root?	09:48
apogee	right now im logged as a simple user	09:48
BluesKaj	apogee ,are you in kubuntu or ubuntu?	09:48
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apogee	ubuntu	09:48
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apogee	oops this is a Kubuntu channel :(	09:49
csmith1991	Can anyone help me with some ndiswrapper problems?	09:49
Daisuke_Ido	this is the help channel specifically for kubuntu, there's always #ubuntu :D	09:49
BluesKaj	then /join #ubuntu ... kubuntu uses a differnt desktop	09:49
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apogee	Blueskal Thanks anyway	09:49
Daisuke_Ido	csmith1991: easy solution, buy a supported card. but i sense that's not what you're looking for...	09:50
BluesKaj	gawd	09:50
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rajkalyan	whats a voice	09:50
BluesKaj	voice has certain priveleges in some irc channels ...don't think anyone here has voice	09:51
rajkalyan	oh	09:51
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rajkalyan	can i get help	09:52
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BluesKaj	!ask \| rajkalyan	09:52
ubotu	rajkalyan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	09:52
rajkalyan	ok	09:53
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rajkalyan	my laptop running kubuntu edgy cannot restart	09:53
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BluesKaj	rajkalyan,pls be more specific ..does it boot up ?	09:54
rajkalyan	yes	09:54
Daisuke_Ido	upgrade to feisty?	09:54
rajkalyan	shutdown is fine	09:54
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rajkalyan	how	09:54
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rajkalyan	will i lose my data	09:55
Daisuke_Ido	probably	09:55
rajkalyan	man!	09:55
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Daisuke_Ido	that's just one solution	09:55
BluesKaj	yeah, that's aprob with some setups .	09:55
rajkalyan	sheesh	09:55
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Daisuke_Ido	to get you to the currently supported release	09:55
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rajkalyan	man!	09:55
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Daisuke_Ido	now, as far as actually fixing the problem without an upgrade or anything... i'm sure it can be done	09:56
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Daisuke_Ido	i just don't know how.	09:56
BluesKaj	rajkalyan, I just do ctrl+alt+backspace then i shut down or restart from the login menu	09:56
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ubuntu__	could somebody help my getting my sound working	09:56
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sic	hey i oculd help u	09:57
sic	what happened to ur card?	09:57
ubuntu__	oke	09:57
ubuntu__	what happend with my card what do you mean sic	09:57
rajkalyan	ok	09:57
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BluesKaj	ubuntu__, first of all pls choose a different nick	09:57
Arwen	lol	09:57
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BluesKaj	right	09:57
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otnio	this is better	09:58
sic	ok	09:58
sic	what r the symptons	09:58
sic	??	09:58
sic	u just dont have ANY osunds at all?	09:58
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otnio	well no sound what so ever	09:58
otnio	right sic	09:58
otnio	running kubuntu edgy	09:58
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Arwen	hate to be condescending, but is your volume turned up? and are your speakers attached?	09:58
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Arwen	if they are, what model sound card/chip?	09:58
sic	n do u have only 1 sound card installed?	09:58
otnio	its a laptop and yes they are attached :)	09:59
otnio	i have only one sound card	09:59
Arwen	what model?	09:59
otnio	how do i know	09:59
Arwen	uh...	09:59
otnio	i think an intel	09:59
sic	check in the system info	09:59
sic	system->cheek info center	10:00
sic	sry	10:00
otnio	product: 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller	10:00
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sic	ok type this in a console n let me know the answer	10:01
sic	sudo asoundconf list	10:01
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otnio	Names of available sound cards:	10:02
otnio	Intel	10:02
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sic	thats all?	10:03
otnio	thats all	10:03
sic	now type this	10:03
sic	sudo asoundconf set-default-card Intel	10:03
otnio	done	10:04
sic	n double chek the sound for me plz	10:04
sic	still not working?	10:04
otnio	still not working	10:04
sic	n r u pretty sure that all ur sound system is working ok	10:05
otnio	yes i am sure about it	10:05
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Arwen	if you have Windows on that laptop, could you boot it and tell us what the device manager says?	10:05
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otnio	ehm yes i could	10:06
otnio	anyway the drivers are loaded	10:06
otnio	but let me reboot	10:06
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Admiral_Chicago	lspci	10:06
otnio	what Admiral_Chicago	10:06
Admiral_Chicago	would tell you the device	10:06
SunnyTany	Bonsoir tout le monde!	10:06
nicolas	bonsoir	10:07
Admiral_Chicago	hey SunnyTany	10:07
otnio	00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)	10:07
SunnyTany	Je vais poser une question con mais...	10:07
BluesKaj	perhaps he should check Kmix and alsa to make sure nothing is muted and his input and output levels are turned up and the the switches are turned on for his inputs as well	10:07
nicolas	y a que des rponse idiotes ;)	10:08
SunnyTany	...si on change de carte video y a t il des modifs de config faire pour l'utiliser pleinement ou c'est reconnu tout seul au reboot?	10:08
SunnyTany	:)	10:08
aaroncampbell	I had to re-do a bunch of network stuff on my system, and now it seems that samba isn't working quite right. I can access \\192.168.2.1 from a windows computer, but not \\aaron (which is what I used to use)	10:08
BluesKaj	SunnyTany, c'est anglais ici	10:08
BluesKaj	!fr	10:08
ubotu	Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.	10:08
otnio	nothing is muted BluesKaj	10:08
SunnyTany	Ooops..My bad. Sorry all guys....	10:08
nicolas	ok sorry	10:09
nicolas	move to....	10:09
BluesKaj	otnio, type alsamixer in the konsole	10:09
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otnio	done BluesKaj	10:10
otnio	nothing is muted	10:10
BluesKaj	make sure none of the sliders are Muted (M)...if they are type the letter M , then you will see '00'	10:11
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otnio	everything has the 00	10:11
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Graham	Anybody here know how to make compiz start when using XGL?	10:12
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otnio	brb BluesKaj let me reboot	10:13
BluesKaj	ok, in system settings /sound system ..enable the sound system ..then check hardware and under select the audio device , choose 'Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'	10:13
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BluesKaj	have to cover all the bases , with these sound probs	10:14
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dranas	ello	10:15
Graham	'lo	10:15
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dranas	anyone know where i can find deoders for movie player or mplayer for real media?	10:16
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BluesKaj	!google \| dranas	10:17
ubotu	dranas: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com - Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux	10:17
dranas	.....	10:17
dranas	as if i havent tried google	10:17
BluesKaj	google linux might find it	10:18
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dranas	i dont want to instyall real player...icky icky thingie	10:18
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BluesKaj	dunno if mplayer will do real media	10:19
BluesKaj	mplayer is in the repos	10:20
dranas	yeah i got that, im ookin for the real media decoder, if there is such a thing	10:20
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Jahman	hi	10:21
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aaroncampbell	I had to re-do a bunch of network stuff on my system, and now it seems that samba isn't working quite right. I can access \\192.168.2.1 from a windows computer, but not \\aaron (which is what I used to use)	10:22
BluesKaj	dranas, sorry but i haven't heard of such a decoder	10:22
jhutchins	dranas: You want the helix codecs, I believe that mplayer will use them to play real media.	10:22
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jhutchins	aaroncampbell: What are you doing for WINS?	10:22
BluesKaj	ahhh jhutchins to the rescue :)	10:23
aaroncampbell	jhutchins: I don't know.	10:23
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dranas	alright helix codecs thanks	10:23
aaroncampbell	How would that normally be handled? I simply set up samba when I set up the computer, and everything worked	10:23
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jhutchins	aaroncampbell: I suspect that when you know, you'll have your solution. Look at your samba server config file. I find that using swat, with it's handy links to the references, makes it easier to manage.	10:24
jhutchins	WINS == Windows Internet Naming Service - their attempt to replace DNS.	10:24
CPUFreak91	The mouse buttons don't respond when I start Compiz under KDE. I'm running XGL and the fglrx binary drivers.	10:24
CPUFreak91	The buttons work fine under an XGL environment without compiz running, btw	10:25
jhutchins	CPUFreak91: Congratulations! You have one of the majority of systems that compiz doesn't work properly on!	10:25
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Pizzario	new kubuntu blog : http://dtc59.miniville.fr/	10:25
CPUFreak91	jhutchins: Hehe.	10:25
CPUFreak91	jhutchins: It's gotta be a config problem though, not because I have to use the proprietary crap	10:26
jhutchins	CPUFreak91: Ok, if you say so. #ubuntu-effects probably has a better knowledge pool - a lot of us don't bother with it.	10:26
CPUFreak91	thanks	10:27
zipper	Pizzario, fuck you, and your gay little spam-every-one-game. Noone cares, and you're only making people hate you.	10:27
NickPresta	!language \| zipper	10:27
ubotu	zipper: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.	10:27
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Pizzario	zipper luv'	10:27
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aaroncampbell	jhutchins: Looks like I have swat installed, but I'm not sure how to set it up. I tried swat from the command line, but it just sits there. I'll go google it	10:28
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jhutchins	aaroncampbell: It's a web-type service, http://localhost:931? Not sure of the port, try http://localhost:swat	10:29
Riddell	Pizzario: that's not a kubuntu blog	10:29
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ActionParsnip	hi all	10:30
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domipit	hi all	10:30
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incorrect	hello, is there a good qt based email client?	10:30
ActionParsnip	can anyone suggest a tool to convert from bmp to jpeg	10:30
eji	gimp	10:31
ActionParsnip	incorrect: Thunderbird / KMail no good for you?	10:31
jhutchins	incorrect: pine?	10:31
incorrect	can you get thunderbird with qt widget set?	10:32
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ActionParsnip	incorrect: not sure, sorry	10:33
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aaroncampbell	jhutchins: it's :901 but it doesn't work. grepping my xchat logs shows you recommended it before, but I never got it to work. I'll see if I can figure out what I did instead	10:33
incorrect	kmail can be a little bit pants,	10:33
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incorrect	i was hoping for evolution with qt	10:34
ontio	oke my sound is working :)	10:34
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ontio	with a reboot, kubuntu is just like windows just reboot, to solve your problems :)	10:34
BluesKaj	cool ontio	10:34
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Dusk_	no sound :(	10:35
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Dusk_	when i start kubuntu always comes a kmix screen	10:36
BluesKaj	not always ...no BSD in linux , just WSD if you run beryl on an ati card :)	10:36
Dusk_	but there is no sound	10:36
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Daisuke_Ido	i always thought running beryl on ati was more of a WTF moment...	10:38
GrahamA	Gota love Compiz	10:38
BluesKaj	window dressing!	10:38
GrahamA	Daisuke_Ido: I put compiz on my computer yesterday with an ati card, honestly it just worked!	10:38
GrahamA	Well...	10:38
Daisuke_Ido	exactly	10:38
vzduch	jhutchins: pine == Qt?	10:38
Daisuke_Ido	uh	10:39
GrahamA	For some reason I can't right click anything... but I'm sure they're working on it...	10:39
Daisuke_Ido	pine == cli	10:39
vzduch	Daisuke_Ido: that's what I thought	10:39
Daisuke_Ido	i wonder how the merge is going	10:39
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GrahamA	Thing is.. for some reason XGL runs slow as hell, I start an XGL session and everything takes ages.	10:39
GrahamA	Start compiz and it's just as quick as it is normally...	10:40
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rajkalyan	how do i install new cursors	10:41
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aaroncampbell	jhutchins: looks like swat needs inetd, and only xinetd is available in the repos...and it doesn't work	10:41
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BluesKaj	so GrahamA , you can't do what you'd like to do , but everything looks nice ? :)	10:42
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rajkalyan	what do i do with ubuntucenter alpha 1	10:43
melkor	I am trying to ssh into a website location, when I do it automatically starts me into the mail program and I can't get out	10:43
GrahamA	BluesKaj: Exactly!	10:43
GrahamA	Although I just tried tux racer and... although slightly transparent... it works.	10:44
GrahamA	I though openGL would just go XGL? SOD OFF1	10:44
BluesKaj	i had the same , GrahamA	10:44
GrahamA	I'm coming back to aiglx	10:44
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ActionParsnip	melkor: what port you connecting to?	10:47
melkor	I dont enter the port I just use ssh myname@place.edu	10:48
ActionParsnip	melkor: surely you just ssh to place.edu	10:48
ActionParsnip	ssh place.edu/22	10:49
melkor	no that logs me on as melkor@place.edu	10:49
melkor	I could try the second one.	10:49
ActionParsnip	you just ssh in the validate yourself	10:49
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melkor	I don't follow	10:49
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ActionParsnip	melkor: you just connect to the site then you will be prompted for username and password	10:50
melkor	just a password	10:51
ActionParsnip	melkor: try without username	10:51
melkor	...since I use the username@location.edu	10:51
melkor	I did it doesn't work	10:51
ActionParsnip	melkor: try specifying port 22	10:51
ActionParsnip	melkor: i gotta split guys	10:52
melkor	That worked except I get the same thing	10:52
ActionParsnip	peace y'all	10:52
melkor	peace	10:52
blackblizzzek	on a home-pc with two harddisk (one with / and /boot, other with /home and /var/www) where should the swap be put?	10:52
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Arwen	blackblizzzek, on the one that typically sees less use	10:54
Murchadh	melkor - try ssh -l username port	10:54
Arwen	so probably the second one, though if you run a webserver, maybe the first one	10:54
blackblizzzek	Arwen: well, which is it? ;)	10:54
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Arwen	dunno, you tell me	10:54
Arwen	it's your system after all, lol	10:54
blackblizzzek	i am wondering myself	10:55
melkor	For some reason F3 is not being passed to the host	10:55
Arwen	blackblizzzek, it's not that big a difference anyway :-)	10:55
Arwen	just do it randomly?	10:55
rustalot	can I get an extension for Konqueror that will let me mount .iso files?	10:55
Arwen	!iso \| rustalot	10:55
blackblizzzek	Arwen: thx	10:55
GrahamA	Why does xgl run slower without compiz?	10:55
ubotu	rustalot: To mount an ISO disc image, type sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.	10:55
Arwen	GrahamA, it does? probably because it's not direct rendered, so anything uncomposited is done by software.	10:56
Arwen	try using AIGLX since it runs on top of normal X	10:56
GrahamA	Does for me.	10:56
Arwen	well, probably for the reason I said	10:56
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rustalot	Arwen: I know how to do it that way; my question is, can I get a plugin/extension/script/etc that will let me do it in the GUI, like right-click>"Mount" or something	10:57
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ZxYxZ	why does my kubuntu boot so long? even xp does faster	10:57
Arwen	rustalot, I think simply googling "kubuntu iso mount script" should cover it	10:58
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Arwen	http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Tools/Mount-ISO-image-2216.shtml - for example, this one (just picked it off the list, I won't vouch for it)	10:58
Ramon	I need some assistance installing ubuntu... I don't know whats happening but i've been trying debian, and debian based distros like kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu-lite etc... and all of them are giving me "debootstrap" errors when doing the "base installation"	10:59
dromer	how can I activate the kqemu acceleration module ?	10:59
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rustalot	Arwen, yeah, I got one that looked very nice, but when I run the install.sh it gives me "./install.sh: 146: function: not found <br> <br> Couldn't find ! <br> Type the full path here or press "Ctrl+C" to abort: "	11:00
Arwen	meh, keep googling then? or try using bash instead of sh.	11:00
Dusk_	'alsa	11:00
Dusk_	!alsa	11:00
ubotu	If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3	11:00
Ramon	!installation	11:01
ubotu	Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues	11:01
Ramon	I need some assistance installing ubuntu... I don't know whats happening but i've been trying debian, and debian based distros like kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu-lite etc... and all of them are giving me "debootstrap" errors when doing the "base installation"	11:01
dromer	Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated	11:02
dromer	hmm	11:02
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Arwen	you need the accelerated qemu cruft... qemu by itself is too slow to do anything	11:03
dromer	Ramon: I tried a debootstrap to a disk recently, thath was with debian Woody and Sarge though	11:03
Ramon	what happened..?	11:03
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Ramon	dromer: did you fix it?	11:03
dromer	Arwen: I know, but how can I activate/install it? I compiled/installed from source but I still get this	11:03
snerge	How do you specify the order of your video devices, my webcam and my tv tuner keep switching around video0 and video1 ?	11:03
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dromer	Ramon: I could debootstrap just fine	11:03
Ramon	dromer: what was the issue.. how can i fix this?	11:04
dromer	Ramon: haven't tried it with any current stables though, those where from archived repositories	11:04
Ramon	and what should I do?.. i mean to give a try	11:04
dromer	Ramon: I personally didn't have any issue with debootstrap, the chroot after that was more tricky :P	11:04
Arwen	dromer, I believe you're looking for the kqemu-source package	11:04
dromer	Arwen: I installed it	11:04
Arwen	did you compile it?	11:05
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dromer	Arwen: er, apt-get installed it .. but I also tried to install from: kqemu-1.3.0pre11.tar.gz	11:05
Ramon	dromer: so what should i do.. i mean jsut some guiadance	11:05
Arwen	dromer, there's a reason the package is called -source	11:05
Arwen	you have to compile it after installation	11:05
dromer	Ramon: pfft, I only used it twice now, what was the exact problem again?	11:05
Ramon	I need some assistance installing ubuntu... I don't know whats happening but i've been trying debian, and debian based distros like kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu-lite etc... and all of them are giving me "debootstrap" errors when doing the "base installation"	11:06
a-865	does kubuntu have other gui package manager besides inept?	11:06
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Arwen	dromer, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo <--- I believe this page can help you	11:06
dromer	Arwen: but I got this during compile af that extracted tar.gz: WARNING: could not find /home/dreamer/Desktop/isoandimg/kqemu-1.3.0pre11/.kqemu-mod.o.cmd for /home/dreamer/Desktop/isoandimg/kqemu-1.3.0pre11/kqemu-mod.o	11:06
Arwen	a-865, yes, apt-get	11:06
Arwen	dromer, don't ask me....	11:06
dromer	Arwen: ah thnx	11:07
Arwen	a-865, and also synaptic	11:07
Arwen	sorry, I use vmware, lol	11:07
a-865	Arwen: inept doesn't seem to know about synaptic	11:07
a-865	Arwen: how do you get apt-get into gui mode?	11:07
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vzduch	apt-get has no gui mode	11:08
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Arwen	you don't.... GUIs are stupid anyway, what's so hard about "apt-get install blah"?	11:08
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Arwen	and to get synaptic, that's "apt-get install synaptic"	11:08
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a-865	Arwen: what's hard is without gui, dunno how to decide what packages need to be added or removed	11:08
vzduch	but Synaptic should be installed by default	11:08
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joe4288	hi im having trouble with azurues	11:09
Arwen	a-865, so go install synaptic then	11:09
a-865	way too many non-english fonts installed	11:09
Arwen	joe4288, oh? what kind of trouble?	11:09
a-865	too many fonts == way slow gui	11:09
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Arwen	(non-english fonts are good, they keep squares from showing up in IRC)	11:09
joe4288	Arwen: when i try to start it it will just close out on me agian	11:09
Arwen	joe4288, start it from the command line. And if you don't have Java, go install it.	11:10
Admiral_Chicago	!azureus	11:10
ubotu	azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo	11:10
joe4288	Arwen: lol i have java	11:10
Admiral_Chicago	there is some troubleshooting there	11:10
vzduch	a-865: there is a font manager in the System Settings.. use that to deinstall fonts	11:10
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joe4288	Arwen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27489/ heres the pastebin of what came up	11:11
Evolution2	how can i upgrade my KDE	11:11
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n8k99	Evolution2: which version do you have\	11:12
purpleposeidon	I would really like it if someone could save me, my nethack game depends on it	11:12
Evolution2	3.5.6	11:12
Arwen	so you have a java error, woohoo	11:12
Evolution2	feisty fawn	11:12
n8k99	which version of kubuntu do you have	11:12
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Evolution2	i have feisty	11:12
purpleposeidon	when ever I press left-ctrl-s on a virtual terminal, it freezes	11:12
n8k99	there is a repo on kubuntu.org you add to your source.list	11:12
vzduch	even Feisty has no more current KDE pkgs than 3.5.6	11:12
vzduch	not even in the backports	11:13
n8k99	and you can get 3.5.7	11:13
Evolution2	yeah	11:13
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Evolution2	thats what i want	11:13
vzduch	(or I haven't found them yet ;))	11:13
Evolution2	can you direct me how to please	11:13
joe4288	Arwen: you take a look at the postbin?	11:13
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vzduch	n8k99: which repo?	11:13
Arwen	yeah	11:13
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Arwen	you have a java-related problem (on amd64 no less)	11:13
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joe4288	Arwen: what do you think?	11:13
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n8k99	Evolution2: its listed on http://kubuntu.org	11:14
Arwen	no idea, I can tell you what I think the problem is, but I don't know any way to fix it	11:14
n8k99	or is it .com?	11:14
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joe4288	Arwen: so then whats my problem :)	11:14
Arwen	n8k99, .org. kubuntu.com is a redirect.	11:14
rjune__	What's the name of the user manager in ubuntu?	11:14
Arwen	joe4288, your problem is java-related, that's all I know, lol	11:14
Arwen	rjune__, users-admin I think	11:14
eddie	hello, im quite newish to linux.... is there a way to CD in the terminal to files with spaces in there name	11:15
joe4288	lol yea i preaty much figured that out on my own	11:15
Arwen	eddie, use quotes	11:15
eddie	cheers	11:15
rjune__	eddie: use quotes or a \ before the space	11:15
Arwen	or use an interrupt character. e.g. cd File\ Storage	11:15
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Arwen	that works with dollar signs and other crap to	11:15
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n8k99	right you are Arwen	11:15
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vzduch	n8k99: not bad :) gotta hack my sources.list once more for that	11:15
Evolution2	n8k99: so i should just do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and add one of those repos?	11:15
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n8k99	yes Evolution2	11:16
Evolution2	thanks	11:16
vzduch	Evolution2: basically yes, and import the key	11:16
n8k99	the the old- update / upgrade trick	11:16
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Evolution2	thats my problem, i dont know how to "import a key" is or what it means	11:16
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MaTiAz	What program can edit .raw images? GIMP doesn't seem to do them :\|	11:17
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vzduch	there's lots of examples on the 'net.. should be something like 'gpg --import $filename'	11:18
CPUFreak91	How can I tell adept manager to install an older version of a package?	11:18
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vzduch	I didn't yet figure out what the various options mean that you can put behind the filename.. but 'man gpg' should be able to tell you that	11:18
vzduch	followed by 'sudo apt-key add -'	11:18
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Evolution2	ok	11:19
daminator	hi! i want to have IBMgraphics in Nethack. how can i enable them in aterm? i set te option "ibmgraphics" and copied vga.pcf.gz into /etc/X11/fonts/misc	11:20
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daminator	but in aterm i just se strange letters	11:20
daminator	what did i wrong?	11:20
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illriginal	Does anyone know if you can hide the desktop icons? In Ubuntu?	11:21
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Evolution2	from the list of those sources	11:22
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Evolution2	just add one of them or all of them	11:22
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melkor	Why wouldn't F3 function properly when I am using ssh?	11:23
vzduch	one is enough.. sure you can add all	11:23
Evolution2	ok	11:23
vzduch	melkor: what's F3 supposed to do in ssh?	11:24
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Evolution2	anywhere on the list right? doesnt matter if its last or anything	11:24
melkor	its supposed to quite a mail program that I'm running	11:24
vzduch	place doesn't matter	11:24
Evolution2	ok	11:24
melkor	I ssh into a server and it automatically runs a mail app.	11:24
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melkor	It says F3 to quit, but F3 doesn't seem to work.	11:25
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Tenerifedave	question: I have a problem, i cannot here sound in flash in firefox :(	11:27
ActionParsnip	hi all	11:27
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ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: http://binnyva.blogspot.com/2006/10/no-sound-in-flash-running-on-firefox-in.html	11:28
ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: any good?	11:28
Tenerifedave	1 sec i shall tell you :)	11:28
a-865	is there some command designed to empty the apt cache?	11:28
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melkor	apt-get clean	11:29
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Silver-angeL	!	11:29
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Silver-angeL	, . ?	11:29
a-865	melkor: thx - I thought it was apt-cache clean :-p	11:29
Silver-angeL	iPod,	11:29
Evolution2	wtf?	11:30
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Silver-angeL	,	11:30
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Silver-angeL	mount	11:30
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Tenerifedave	nope still the same i'm afriad ActionParsnip	11:30
BluesKaj	!ru \| Silver-angeL	11:31
ubotu	Silver-angeL: #ubuntu-ru / Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke	11:31
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ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: http://www.nabble.com/no-sound-with-Flash-9-t3917379.html	11:32
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ActionParsnip	might be useful	11:32
ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: backup all files you edit before editing them	11:32
Tenerifedave	ok will do	11:32
ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022 looks prettty sweet	11:34
ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: Its for ubuntu too :)	11:34
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Tenerifedave	already done that ActionParsnip	11:35
Tenerifedave	didnt make any difference	11:35
ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: bah	11:36
Tenerifedave	its not just for firefox though	11:36
ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: what else	11:36
Tenerifedave	in konqueror its the same	11:36
Tenerifedave	all other sounds work fine though	11:36
ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: are you part of the audio group?	11:36
Tenerifedave	just not flash	11:36
Tenerifedave	whats that	11:36
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rajkalyan	help	11:38
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rajkalyan	darn it dont work	11:38
ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: its an access group in linux	11:38
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rajkalyan	how do i register	11:39
Evolution2	vzduch: i dont understand my save the key file?	11:40
vzduch	?	11:41
TeraDyne	Does anyone know of a good desktop blogging tool that works with Blogger (the newer blogger system)?	11:41
ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: try typing groups in the konsole	11:41
Evolution2	Save the key file to your local disk Launch Adept Manager from K-Menu->System Choose from the menu Adept->Manage Repositories Click the Authentication tab Click Import Key File... and select the file you saved above Click the Third Party Software tab Add one of the deb lines above Close and click Reload From the Adept toolbar click Full Upgrade then Apply Changes Log out of KDE and back in again once the new version is installed	11:41
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Evolution2	that is confusing	11:41
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Tenerifedave	ok ActionParsnip	11:42
vzduch	what's confusing about that? it's a step-by-step guide, just follow it.. involves no cmdline, but should work equally well	11:42
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Tenerifedave	dave adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev lpadmin powerdev admin	11:42
steffen	i having problem running counter-strike 1.6 on wine. it is loading but the game does not start. help?	11:42
Tenerifedave	thats what i get back ActionParsnip	11:43
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ActionParsnip	useradd -G audio <your username>	11:44
Tenerifedave	useradd: user dave exists	11:44
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rajkalyan	useradd:	11:45
rajkalyan	useradd: rajkalyan	11:45
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ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: usermod -G audio dave	11:47
ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: my bad	11:47
Tenerifedave	no worries dude	11:47
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Tenerifedave	usermod: unable to lock password file	11:48
Tenerifedave	root?	11:48
ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: then kill all firefoxes and try it	11:48
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ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: yeah sudo it	11:48
Tenerifedave	ok	11:48
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mikeyman77	is 7.04 a big improvement on 6.10?	11:49
ActionParsnip	mikeyman77: I think so, yes	11:49
Tenerifedave	hmmm nope still not working	11:50
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dromer	how can I see what my hostname on the network is?	11:50
dromer	or I mean domain name	11:51
dromer	what domain name my network uses	11:51
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ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree	11:52
Tenerifedave	ok	11:52
ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: after sudo apt-get update	11:52
mikeyman77	ActionParsnip: what version of kde is it using?	11:52
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Tenerifedave	nope still not having it :(	11:54
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vzduch	mikeyman77: 3.5.6 by default.. there's an upgrade to 3.5.7 available however	11:56
mikeyman77	does the upgrade work coreectly?	11:56
ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: mkdir /tmp/.esd	11:56
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vzduch	no idea, haven't tried yet	11:56
mikeyman77	ok	11:56
ActionParsnip	Tenerifedave: ln -s /tmp/.esd-1000/socket /tmp/.esd/socket	11:57
Tenerifedave	already done that	11:57
vzduch	esd? o0	11:57
mikeyman77	thanks	11:57
ActionParsnip	http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76743.html	11:57
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aaroncampbell	I had to re-do a bunch of network stuff on my system, and now it seems that samba isn't working quite right. I can access \\192.168.2.1 from a windows computer, but not \\aaron (which is what I used to use)	11:59
aaroncampbell	I've been told it's a WINS problem, but where would I look to handle this?	11:59
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kubuntian	hello everybody	11:59
kubuntian	i have 2 machines A B where A is a windows XP machine with default user: "Amanda" and B is a kubuntu edgy with main user "Andrea"	12:00
kubuntian	suppose now that i want to access B from A, do i need to create the user "Amanda" and then add it to the allow list of Samba configured on B?	12:01
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Schuenemann	is it possible to edit konqueror's preview for specific file types?	12:01
kubuntian	The problem is that if i search for computers on MSHOME i can see correctly B but when i click on it, it tells me i don't have permission to access	12:01
ActionParsnip	kubuntian: easier to run an ftp server	12:02
kubuntian	ActionParsnip: i do need to use samba	12:02
ActionParsnip	kubuntian: but yeah i think you need to allow the computer access on the Kubuntu side	12:03
kubuntian	how?	12:03
kubuntian	i basic setup samba in "share mode"	12:03
kubuntian	browse free until a resource is actually demanded	12:03
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jhutchins	kubuntian: You're not aaroncampbell, are you?	12:11
jhutchins	kubuntian: Heh.	12:11
kubuntian	no	12:11
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jhutchins	kubuntian: You need to enable WINS support on your samba server. Windows Internet Naming Service.	12:12
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aaroncampbell	no he's not, but that set off my pager	12:12
kubuntian	what does that mean?	12:12
jhutchins	kubuntian: That'll take care of the IP resolution problem.	12:12
kubuntian	that every Windows account will have access?	12:12
aaroncampbell	kubuntian: I'm having samba problems too	12:12
jhutchins	kubuntian: No, it just fixes the IP vs. hostname problem.	12:12
aaroncampbell	Also WINS related.	12:12
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jhutchins	kubuntian: As far as the accounts having access, we'd have to stomp through the setup, but generally your logs should tell you why access is being denied.	12:13
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jhutchins	kubuntian: Unless you allow guest access, every windows user must also have an account on the samba server.	12:13
kubuntian	do i need to create a UNIX account for the WINS account and then add it to the samba allowed?	12:13
aaroncampbell	However, I'm been googling about it to no avail. I can't get SWAT to work, and any search for kubuntu with the word "wins" tends to turn up "Kubuntu vs Mandriva: Kubuntu Wins!"	12:14
aaroncampbell	etc	12:14
kubuntian	mhh	12:14
jhutchins	kubuntian: I believe you must create an smbpasswd for each user; I think they may not need a full UNIX accoutn.	12:14
kubuntian	well, i saw a wins entry in etc/samba	12:14
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Tenerifedave	well I still cannot get flash audio to work in firefox :(	12:14
kubuntian	jhutchins: mhh, smbpasswd is to MODIFY the samba passwords	12:15
kubuntian	not to create, isn't it?	12:15
jhutchins	wins support = yes	12:16

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