[12:14] <UbuntuServerUser> it says "file name to right out : etc/list (w/e it is" then I hit enter and it says wrote 44 lines
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: add /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0 to your /etc/fstab
[12:15] <zorglu_> wow globalling this edgy->feisty went pretty well
[12:15] <stdin> UbuntuServerUser: then Ctrl+X should just close it
[12:15] <UbuntuServerUser> Hmm ok that worke
[12:16] <UbuntuServerUser> weird...thanks
[12:16] <banksey> !wine
[12:16] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:16] <coreymon77> ActionParsnip: why the /dev/hda1 part
[12:16] <coreymon77> ActionParsnip: my hd already mounts. my cdrw/dvdrom drive jsut wont
[12:16] <zorglu_> wine is good to dev window stuff while being on linux
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: my dvdrw is on that controller, if yours is on secondary master use hdc
[12:17] <happytiger> On a fresh install kubuntu server do I need to install a cron daemon before a job sumbitted throug crontab -e is excexuted???
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: secondary slave = hdd
[12:17] <happytiger> feisty release
[12:17] <devnull> most distro installs automatically have a cron daemon
[12:17] <TeraDyne> !cron
[12:17] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto  -  There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[12:17] <stdin> happytiger: no
[12:18] <coreymon77> ActionParsnip: how do i know where it is, linux is on hdb
[12:18] <happytiger> hmm then do I need to submit the job using sudo?
[12:18] <coreymon77> but windows is on hda
[12:18] <happytiger> or will standard user suffice
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> its probably on hdc
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> lemme see how you can check
[12:19] <stdin> happytiger: you only need sudo for editing the system crontab
[12:19] <happytiger> 0,12,13,14,15 0,4,5,6,7,8 * * * w /home/myuser/script is in crontab for my user
[12:19] <happytiger> but it doesnt run
[12:19] <TeraDyne> does the script itself need sudo?
[12:19] <happytiger> nope it doesnt
[12:19] <Lunar_Lamp> happytiger, is the script a bash script? You might need to do "bash /home/myuser/script"
[12:20] <happytiger> it is a perl script
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: try ls -al /dev/cd*
[12:20] <happytiger> which run fine from command line
[12:20] <Lunar_Lamp> happytiger, well, "perl /path/to/script".
[12:20] <Lunar_Lamp> happytiger, also, crontab will only run for events >2 mins in the future after you edit it, as the crontab file is only checked every 2mins - are you sure those options are what you want though?
[12:21] <happytiger> do i really  need add perl? when I can run it straight form cmd line using /home/mysuser script
[12:21] <coreymon77> ActionParsnip:
[12:21] <coreymon77> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-06-26 12:37 /dev/cdrom -> scd0
[12:21] <coreymon77> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-06-26 12:37 /dev/cdrw -> scd0
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: that shows which hdx your cd drive is on
[12:21] <Lunar_Lamp> happytiger, try it - I've seen other users doing it that way :-)
[12:21] <happytiger> Ahh oki 2 mins in future
[12:21] <banksey> Anyone know a good site for Konqueror Add-ons/Plug-ins?
[12:21] <happytiger> that might be the problem
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> then youu dont use hdx you use /dev/scd0
[12:21] <coreymon77> ActionParsnip: thats the output, so what does it mean?
[12:22] <coreymon77> ActionParsnip: so whats the fstab entry?
[12:22] <happytiger> Lunar_Lamp: could do though sounds silly
[12:22] <Lunar_Lamp> 0,12,13,14,15 0,4,5,6,7,8 <== on the hour, 12,131415 mins past, on the hours, midnight, 4am, 5am, 6am,7am,8am?! Are you sure that's what you want?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: same as I said, just change it to /dev/scd0
[12:22] <UbuntuServerUser> anyone know of a good newbie friendly guide to install and configure Samba via CLI ?
[12:22] <stdin> coreymon77: "/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0"
[12:23] <happytiger> changed to 0,25,26,27,28 0,4,5,6,7,8 * * * w perl /home/one2super/SALESINFO/doAll.pl
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> and make the folder in /media/cdrom0
[12:23] <happytiger> so should come 0:25 to =28
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: you'll need to sudo that one
[12:23] <happytiger> with both perl and 2 mins limit out of the way
[12:23] <randoman> what was cause "dpkg --configure -a, aptitude update . Not to clear "you have old thrid party modules lying around" in "Monitor & Display"?
[12:23] <happytiger> sits with fingers crossed :-)
[12:24] <happytiger> Lunar_Lamp: Yes I wnated to have it run 23:24...28 to make it run
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: you should then just be able to use mount /media/cdrom0
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: as far as I recall
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: restart should make it ok
[12:25] <happytiger> Lunar_Lamp: Later it should just run 0 6,7,8 * * * w perl /home/one2super/SALESINFO/doAll.pl
 changed to 0,25,26,27,28 0,4,5,6,7,8 * * * w perl /home/one2super/SALESINFO/doAll.pl <== what's the 'w' for?  Also, I presume it's 00:24 or 04:24 etc where you are?
[12:25] <randoman> anyone?
[12:25] <happytiger> my time is 00:25 now
[12:26] <coreymon77> ActionParsnip: including the "" or no?
[12:26] <Lunar_Lamp> Ok, then it should work -but I'm confused about the presence of that "w" before the word perl - what's that for?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> randoman: what are you trying to achieve?
[12:26] <randoman> well
[12:26] <happytiger> w should be all weekdays?
[12:26] <coreymon77> ActionParsnip: and what if i want it to automount, as in, it will be detected as a device even if there is no cd in the drive
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: thats the auto bit ;)
[12:27] <Lunar_Lamp> happytiger, "w" is a command in and of itself :-/
[12:27] <happytiger> ups the w should not be there damn
[12:27] <Lunar_Lamp> happytiger, "0,12,13,14,15 0,4,5,6,7,8 * * 1,2,3,4,5" <== that's what I'd use for weekdays.
[12:27] <UbuntuServerUser> anyone know of a good newbie friendly guide to install and configure Samba via CLI ?
[12:27] <happytiger> So if I want all weekday
[12:27] <randoman> when i go to monitor $ display , I get this " an error occured durring your last kde upgrade leaving an orphaned conrol module""you have old third partie modules lying around". I wanted to clear that. I though "dpkg --configure -a followed with aptitude update" would fix it
[12:27] <knakso> 'sudo apt-get install samba'
[12:28] <randoman> it once before when I had the problem
[12:28] <happytiger> 0,25,26,27,28 0,4,5,6,7,8 * * * /home/one2super/SALESINFO/doAll.pl
[12:28] <happytiger> that would be better
[12:28] <stdin> UbuntuServerUser: you may find more help in the #ubuntu-server room
[12:28] <devnull> o.O
[12:28] <devnull> holy crap!
[12:28] <devnull> compiz-fusion is NUTS
[12:28] <randoman> but its not working anymore
[12:28] <randoman> its great
[12:28] <coreymon77> ActionParsnip: this is whats already in my fstab
 0,25,26,27,28 0,4,5,6,7,8 * * * /home/one2super/SALESINFO/doAll.pl <== that's every day of the week.  Every weekday would be replacing the last asterix with 1,2,3,4,5
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: /dev/scd0        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: whack that in fstab
[12:29] <randoman> i all i want them to add to fusion is the 3d effects
[12:29] <coreymon77>  /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[12:29] <randoman> that was my favorite plugin
[12:29] <happytiger> I need all 7 days a week
[12:29] <happytiger> so * right?
[12:29] <coreymon77> ActionParsnip: should i just change that to scd0
[12:29] <TeraDyne> in Konversation, shouldn't "(slant)list" open a new tab that lists the channels in a nice interface?
[12:29] <Lunar_Lamp> happytiger, if you need all 7 days, just use an asterix :-)
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: yes
 any ideas
[12:29] <randoman> ActionParsnip: any ideas
[12:29] <devnull> randoman: what 3d effects?
[12:29] <coreymon77> ActionParsnip: okay, then what, restart?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> randoman: fusion plugin for what?
[12:29] <randoman> in beryl
[12:29] <devnull> like burning windows and stuff?
[12:29] <stdin> TeraDyne: yes, after a warning anyway
[12:29] <happytiger> Lunar_Lamp: oki I have boiled it down to 0,33,34,35,36 0,4,5,6,7,8 * * * /home/one2super/SALESINFO/doAll.pl
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> randoman: not heard of it, lemme look
[12:30] <happytiger> So that should run in a few minutes then
[12:30] <randoman> the 3d effect to lift the windows off the desktop when rotating the cube
[12:30] <devnull> randoman: li
[12:30] <devnull> k
[12:30] <UbuntuServerUser> can someone tell me why openoffice.org is installed in Ubuntu server edition?
[12:30] <Lunar_Lamp> happytiger, yes, the only reason why it may not is that you may need to prefix the command with "perl" - but don't think you should need to.
[12:30] <Dragnslcr> randoman- the dev version of Fusion is in its own repository
[12:30] <Lunar_Lamp> UbuntuServerUser, it's not... Server edition doesn't even come with X installed.
[12:30] <devnull> Don't really know what you mean on that randoman
[12:30] <randoman> yeah I know
[12:30] <randoman> trevihno
[12:30] <coreymon77> ActionParsnip: restart now?
[12:30] <randoman> or whatever it is
[12:31] <UbuntuServerUser> apt-cache pkgnames
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: yeah should make it ok
[12:31] <happytiger> Lunar_Lamp: Yup I have that in mind I will add perl in a few min if this doesnt cut it :-)
[12:31] <UbuntuServerUser> And I see alot of open office and some thunderbird
[12:31] <cje> hi, I am a simple end user coming from openSUSE to kubuntu edgy.  I know just a few command line scripts.  I have a lot of video files that I have copied to an external hard drive, and I would like to now use the rmdir command to permanently delete directories and their contents, because IMHO rm is faster and more complete than Konqueror.  I am not sure how to use the rmdir command, though, because I keep getting the error that the dir is non-empty.
[12:31] <cje> Thanks in advance.
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> randoman: sudo apt-get install fusion ?
[12:31] <happytiger> Super thanks for the input
[12:31] <Dragnslcr> randoman- I believe the package you want from that repository is compiz-core
[12:31] <happytiger> Now I just sit tight and  waiiit :-)
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> cje: rm -rf <dir name>
[12:32] <randoman> use this repo , in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:32] <randoman> deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb feisty eyecandy
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> cje: this will destroy the data in the folder you state and all sub dirs
[12:32] <cje> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll give that a try!
[12:32] <randoman> and do apt-get compiz, compiz-fusion*
[12:32] <UbuntuServerUser> so is it safe to remove thunderbird-locale-sv-se
[12:32] <randoman> etc
[12:32] <randoman> also apt-get update
[12:32] <Dragnslcr> randoman- no, there is no package named 'fusion' yet. The package name is compiz-core
[12:33] <randoman> do what I said
[12:33] <randoman> or follow this
[12:33] <randoman> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[12:33] <randoman> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[12:33] <randoman> sudo apt-get install libcompizconfig-backend-gconf
[12:33] <randoman> ND/OR (If you use Kubuntu)
[12:33] <randoman> sudo apt-get install libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig
[12:33] <randoman> sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-*
[12:33] <randoman> thats it
[12:33] <randoman> you can also install compiz-icon
[12:33] <randoman> a little buggy
[12:34] <Schuenemann> !pastebin | randoman
[12:34] <ubotu> randoman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:34] <randoman> sorry
[12:34] <TeraDyne> Back, stdin : I thought so. I must have mistyped it. Thanks.
[12:34] <randoman> ive seen people post more lines that that though ;P
[12:34] <stdin> TeraDyne: you can just press F5 too
[12:34] <Lunar_Lamp> randoman, doesn't mean it's good ;-) In a channel like this, more than 2-3 lines makes the channel hard to read for everyone :(
[12:35] <randoman> for sure
[12:35] <zorglu_> !info gcc
[12:35] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB
[12:35] <randoman> well i hope i just help a good amount of people with fusion :P
[12:35] <Schuenemann> !info sopcast
[12:35] <ubotu> Package sopcast does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:35] <randoman> if you have intel64 or amd 64, there are no packages. you have to install from a git source
[12:35] <TeraDyne> stdin: Ok. Thanks
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> !info moo
[12:36] <ubotu> Package moo does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Stupid bot, it does exist
[12:36] <cje> ActionParsnip: thanks, that seems to have worked on one test dir.  Now if I want to do the same things on multiple dirs all in the same dir, how do I delete multiple dirs?  Do I do rm -rf <dirname> <dirname2> <dirname3> or do I put commas in there between the dir names?>
[12:37] <Arwen> does the bot only search the main repository? geez
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> cje: i'd do it rm -rf <dirname>; rm -rf <dir2 name> etc...
[12:37] <UbuntuServerUser> OK this is weird, when i do apt-cache search mplayer I see kmplayer comes up, I'm running Ubuntu server
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> cje: or
[12:38] <Arwen> UbuntuServerUser, do you have multiverse enabled?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> cje: while x is in full path to folder1> <full path to folder 2>
[12:38] <UbuntuServerUser> What is multiverse
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> cje: rm -rf $xx
[12:38] <UbuntuServerUser> And how would I know
[12:38] <Arwen> !repos | UbuntuServerUser
[12:38] <ubotu> UbuntuServerUser: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:38] <UbuntuServerUser> I'm running Ubuntu Server
[12:39] <Arwen> so use w3m
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> cje: go easy with rm -rf. its a big delete
[12:39] <TeraDyne> I'm off. later.
[12:39] <cje> ActionParsnip: right.  I will go easy.  I do understand that it is a severely powerful tool
[12:40] <knakso> Arwen: so use -rfi
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> cje: good
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> cje: )
[12:40] <cje> ActionParsnip: I didn't quite get the command, though.
[12:40] <Arwen> knakso, that requires the user to remember to add i...
[12:40] <tafex_> hi
[12:40] <knakso> Arwen: asking by default is bad.
[12:40] <cje> ActionParsnip: what do you mean by "x is in the full path"?
[12:40] <tafex_> i got a problem with my ftp server
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> cje: its rm (remove) r (recursive f (force)
[12:41] <tafex_> i need help
[12:41] <Arwen> knakso, not true. It would keep people from b0rking their systems
[12:41] <cje> ActionParsnip: right, thanks I have that much.
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> cje: its scripting but i wouldnt advise it with rm
[12:41] <cje> oh
[12:41] <cje> k
[12:41] <Lunar_Lamp> UbuntuServerUser, do you see those packages when you do "dpkg -l"? dpkg -l lists installed packages only:-)
[12:41] <yeniklasor> Can you tell me what is fastest torrent program ?
[12:41] <UbuntuServerUser> Thanks Lunar, thats what I needed
[12:41] <tafex_> bit torrent
[12:41] <Arwen> UbuntuServerUser, hint: why do you need mplayer on a server?
[12:42] <Lunar_Lamp> Arwen, he doesn't - that's what he's confused about.
[12:42] <knakso> Arwen: maybe it should ask 5 time snad create 3 backups when you use --remove --realy-yes --force
[12:42] <UbuntuServerUser> I have no idea what I'm talking about don't listen to me
[12:42] <UbuntuServerUser> Lunar nailed it on the head
[12:42] <Arwen> yeniklasor, faster as in download speed? or faster as in cpu usage?
[12:42] <Arwen> Lunar_Lamp, ok
[12:42] <BluesKaj> there is no fastest torrent app, the speed is determined by your ISP and the file sources
[12:42] <Arwen> ^^
[12:42] <yeniklasor> download speed
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> knakso: write a script dude
[12:42] <Arwen> yeniklasor, no such thing.
[12:43] <Arwen> now, for faster as in cpu usage, I recommend ktorrent or rtorrent
[12:43] <knakso> Arwen: sacrasm?
[12:43] <cje> ActionParsnip:  I have about 20 dirs with over 140 GB of video that I need to del in order to make room for more.  That is why I wanted to automate it.  But I guess I will just use kdesudo Konqueror to do it in a graphical way.
[12:43] <Arwen> knakso, no, I still think it should work that way. Like apt, default ask, "-y" to override for scripts.
[12:43] <yeniklasor> ok thanks
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> cje: you can use sudo rm -rf
[12:43] <Lunar_Lamp> yeniklasor, however, azureus is renowned for requiring many system resources, wheres rtorrent, a command line application, requires very very few :-)
[12:43] <BluesKaj> came from
[12:44] <zorglu_> BluesKaj: from torrent implementors
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> cje: it will go through all the folders from the top one you state and kill anything below
[12:44] <Lunar_Lamp> BluesKaj, the torrent download speed may be the same, but the program themselves may be fast/slow.  Additionally, different apps may implement slightly different torrenting methods.
[12:44] <zorglu_> BluesKaj: this is due to scheduling. and the various implementation in various client
[12:45] <yeniklasor> Lunar_Lamp : Thank you
[12:45] <Lunar_Lamp> yeniklasor, I used azureus and it was fine - but I prefer rtorrent as I'm comfortable on the command line and run it from my server.
[12:45] <cje> ActionParsnip: hmm, so I could automate this process better I guess by just using kdesu konqueror to drag all the dirs into one of the target dirs, and then just del that one target dir !!
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> yeniklasor: if you  are using KUbuntu, chances are you have ktorrent already installed
[12:46] <zorglu_> and ktorrent is a bugged implemetnation :)
[12:46] <Arwen> I like azureus, it's easier to use than rtorrent
[12:46] <zorglu_> not a real trouble, but funny still :)
[12:46] <Arwen> only, if uTorrent had a native linux version..
[12:46] <BluesKaj> for example zorglu_, azureus is a definite memory hog but it's not any faster or slower in terms of download speeds than any other torrent app
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> cje: you can use rm -rf <dir1>; rm -rf <dir2>...
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> cje: use ;'s to seperate the commands
[12:46] <Lunar_Lamp> Arwen, not off a server with 233MHz ARM processor  and 32MB of ram ;-)
[12:46] <Arwen> haha
[12:46] <Lunar_Lamp> rtorrent flies on it though :-)
[12:46] <zorglu_> BluesKaj: well perform real test and you will see. im a bt implementor and believe me this is not true :)
[12:47] <Arwen> the ncurses based ones were always too cumbersome for me :-\\
[12:47] <BluesKaj> sure
[12:47] <cje> ActionParsnip: is there a way to automate the typing of those command chains so that I don't have to retype the command 20 times (I have 20 dirs to delete).
[12:47] <zorglu_> BluesKaj: i just talkabout download speed here. the memory used is clearly different :)
[12:47] <Arwen> zorglu_, clearly dl speed can be optimized somewhat, but the difference is near 0...
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> cje: copy and paste )
[12:47] <zorglu_> :)
[12:47] <BluesKaj> implementor..what may i ask does an implementor do ...a server?
[12:47] <zorglu_> Arwen: do meansure
[12:47] <cje> ActionParsnip: k, thanks.
[12:48] <zorglu_> BluesKaj: it implements
[12:48] <Arwen> only real thing in clients that I see affecting dl time is endgame algorithms and peer banning algorithms
[12:48] <zorglu_> BluesKaj: i dunno the word you use
[12:48] <Arwen> zorglu_, meansure?
[12:48] <zorglu_> BluesKaj: coder/hacker etc..
[12:48] <zorglu_> Arwen: measure
[12:48] <BluesKaj> I have implements ... a mouse a KB a, hammer , screwdriver
[12:48] <Arwen> I do measure.... I max out my connection no matter what client
[12:49] <zorglu_> Arwen: then you are fine :)
[12:49] <makuseru> how can i veiw .divix streams in firefox?
[12:49] <Arwen> makuseru, .divix or .divx?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> makuseru: get mplayerplug-in
[12:50] <zorglu_> well my first laptop got feisty now ! :)
[12:50] <Arwen> and why the hell do you want to view video in a web browser? that's just asking for a memory leak
[12:50] <makuseru> i have mplayer
[12:50] <makuseru> it wont plau them
[12:50] <Arwen> makuseru, "apt-get install mozilla-mplayer"
[12:50] <makuseru> i have it
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> makuseru: get the plug in that links the 2
[12:50] <Arwen> then cry
[12:50] <BluesKaj> i just tweak whatever client I'm using and go from there ... I like ktorrents options and easy setup and stability ...so far anyway :)
[12:50] <makuseru> Arwen: what is your problem
[12:50] <Arwen> ActionParsnip, he seems to have it. Apparently the server isn't reporting the mimetype as one of the ones mplayer supports
[12:51] <coreymon77> can someone explain this to me
[12:51] <cje> ActionParsnip: btw, the video that I am talking about is for the Digital Tipping Point film.  It's a community-built documentary film that aims to be a fun, entertaining film for Windows newbies to try to persuade Windows newbies to try FOSS.  We interviewed the Mayor of Munich, the Culture Minister of Brazil, and other cool people.
[12:51] <Arwen> makuseru, I don't have a problem. I'm only telling you that it's not gonna happen.
[12:51] <coreymon77> a whole season of a podcast show is 781 mb of size
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> cje: sounds funky :D
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> cje: whats FOSS?
[12:51] <zorglu_> cje: url ?
[12:51] <cje> ActionParsnip:  we are giving away our footage for free under a cc by-SA license here: http://archive.org/details/digitaltippingpoint
[12:51] <Arwen> cje, if it's in Theora I won't be watching it...
[12:51] <Arwen> !foss | ActionParsnip
[12:51] <ubotu> ActionParsnip: freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[12:51] <makuseru> Arwen: no, you said nothing of the sort. all you did was criticize me for wanting to play somthing in FF then told me to go cry
[12:52] <coreymon77> but when trying to burn them as an audio cd on k3b, its telling me that only one episode of it can fit on a cdr at a time
[12:52] <coreymon77> why is that?
[12:52] <Arwen> yes, because watching video in a web browser *is* stupid
[12:52] <coreymon77> it makes no sense
[12:52] <Arwen> and two, because you can't do it in this case, I told you to go cry
[12:52] <Arwen> now stop being confrontational
[12:52] <cje> Arwen: it is in mp3 and .ogg
[12:52] <zorglu_> !language | Arwen
[12:52] <ubotu> Arwen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:52] <Arwen> zorglu_, ...I haven't swore at all
[12:53] <Arwen> cje, ogg doesn't tell me anything
[12:53] <Schuenemann> what is the name of that encoder which name is something like "**** ain't an encoder" ?
[12:53] <Arwen> is it in *theora*?
[12:53] <Arwen> Schuenemann, LAME
[12:53] <Schuenemann> thanks
[12:53] <Arwen> LAME Ain't a MP3 Encoder
[12:53] <zorglu_> makuseru: dontworry and come back tomorrow, another population
[12:53] <zorglu_> ok im off now :)
[12:53] <Arwen> cje, *what is the video encoded in*?
[12:53] <cje> Arwen: Sorry, you asked if it is in Theora, and so I used .ogg as a substitute for Theora, sorry.
[12:54] <Arwen> screw that then, I don't watch crappy videos
[12:54] <cje> Arwen: it is encoded in .mpg and Theora.
[12:54] <Arwen> ....
[12:54] <Arwen> you can't have a video be both MPEG and Theora
[12:54] <cje> Arwen: it will be available both on YouTube and archive.org
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> info theora
[12:54] <Arwen> ActionParsnip, that's !theora
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> !info theora
[12:54] <ubotu> Package theora does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:55] <Arwen> !info only searches for packages
[12:55] <ubotu> Package only does not exist in feisty
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> theora
[12:55] <cje> Arwen: yes, you can have something both in .mpg and in Theora.  You just have duplicates of the same file in two formats.
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> !!dumb bots
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dumb bots - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <Arwen> cje, meh, if it's not XviD or H.264, I'm not watching it
[12:55] <Arwen> I don't watch crappy video, see...
[12:56] <cje> Arwen: our footage is duplicated in both .mpg and Theora
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Arwen: so you dont visit youtube?
[12:56] <Schuenemann> how about rmvb?
[12:56] <Arwen> exactly... neither of which is XviD or H.264
[12:56] <cje> Arwen: h.264 is what YouTube uses
[12:56] <Arwen> ActionParsnip, hell no, the audio and video quality there makes my eyes bleed
[12:56] <cje> Arwen: and we will be on YouTube too
[12:56] <Arwen> cje, no... they use H.*263*
[12:56] <cje> ?
[12:56] <Arwen> that's the inferior low-quality codec from 10 years ago
[12:57] <Arwen> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.263
[12:57] <Schuenemann> but the purpose of youtube isn't high quality videos
[12:57] <Schuenemann> as small as possible
[12:57] <cje> right.
[12:57] <Arwen> Schuenemann, but my point was that I don't watch low quality videos
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Arwen: 264 - 263 = 1. Whats so terrible about it if the number is only minutely bigger
[12:57] <Arwen> ActionParsnip, .....
[12:57] <cje> Schuemann: right now, YouTube is mostly about low res.  But it is going to get better.
[12:57] <Arwen> v 6.06 of Ubuntu is only 1 version greater than 5.04 of Ubuntu, what's the diff?
[12:57] <Schuenemann> hmm
[12:58] <Schuenemann> cje, use autocomplete... it's easier :-)
[12:58] <Arwen> my point is that they're completely different
[12:58] <Schuenemann> nick completion
[12:58] <cje> Schuenemann: YouTube will get better and better
[12:58] <Arwen> anyway, we're way off topic
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Arwen: so what is the difference?
[12:58] <cje> Schuenemann: cool.  Heh, I didn't know xchat had autocomplete.
[12:58] <Schuenemann> cje, I noticed it's now internationalized
[12:58] <Arwen> ActionParsnip, H.264 is incredibly high quality. H.263 is incredibly low quality.
[12:58] <ardchoille> Arwen: 6.06 is two versions ahead of 5.04.. you're forgetting 5.10
[12:58] <Lunar_Lamp> [23:57:09]  <Arwen> v 6.06 of Ubuntu is only 1 version greater than 5.04 of Ubuntu, what's the diff? <== I think there was a 5.10
[12:58] <Arwen> ardchoille, oh yeah
[12:58] <cje> Schuenemann: yep, internationalized.
[12:59] <ardchoille> 6.06 is the LTS release (Long Term Support), 3 years support on the desktop, 5 years support on the server.
[01:07] <mc__> how  to open a beer bottle without a bottle opener?
[01:07] <Arwen> mc__, by smashing it over someone's head :-)
[01:07] <mc__> hm
[01:08] <mc__> Arwen: that doesnt sound like a good idea
[01:08] <Arwen> hah
[01:10] <BluesKaj> twistcaps here in Canada..non violent society until at least 6beers
[01:11] <frido> hello
[01:11] <frido> i try this
[01:11] <frido> see u
[01:11] <Arwen> !fail
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <Arwen> lol
[01:11] <BluesKaj> !beer
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <Arwen> !hate
[01:11] <ubotu> hate is a thing we don't encourage - why waste your energy
[01:12] <BluesKaj> some bot that is
[01:13] <BluesKaj> trying to rstore cpu frq scaling ...found the the right tutorial to do it for one session , but upon reboot it's defeated again. I know there's an edit but where ?
[01:14] <cje> ActionParsnip: thanks for your help!  I am going to reboot now.  Thanks to everyone else here who helped, too!
[01:15] <BluesKaj> !cpufreq-info
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpufreq-info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <BluesKaj> !info-cpufreq
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info-cpufreq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <BluesKaj> !useless
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about useless - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <mc__> !god
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about god - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <mc__> !love
[01:17] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[01:17] <Schuenemann> !abuse
[01:17] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:17] <Arwen> !botabuse
[01:17] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:18] <Schuenemann> thanks
[01:18] <BluesKaj> not much snow on the tundra...most ppl don't realize that :)
[01:18] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, they want people speaking french to imigrate to quebec
[01:21] <Arwen> !serial
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about serial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:21] <Arwen> !crack
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:21] <Arwen> !warez
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:21] <Arwen> lol
[01:21] <Schuenemann> Arwen, perhaps you'd like to move back to windows?
[01:21] <Arwen> :-)
[01:22] <Schuenemann> I'm sorry to hear that
[01:22] <Arwen> lol
[01:23] <karthikp_> Kaffeine?
[01:23] <Arwen> lol @ Kaffeine
[01:23] <Arwen> that's even worse than VLC at subtitles..
[01:23] <Schuenemann> what's wrong with kaffeine's subtitles?
[01:24] <Arwen> it doesn't support em? lol
[01:24] <Schuenemann> how come? I've watched films with subtitles
[01:24] <Arwen> (and by subtitles, I mean the only type that matter. SSA/ASS subtitles.)
[01:24] <karthikp_> You mean srt files?
[01:24] <ardchoille> Arwen: mplayer? xine? I've never seen a case where those didn't render subtitles.
[01:24] <Arwen> no, not SRT
[01:24] <Arwen> SSA/ASSS
[01:24] <Arwen> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substation_Alpha
[01:25] <Arwen> ardchoille, mplayer has ok support, but it's nowhere near as complete as the reference one
[01:25] <karthikp_> It won't work with wine?
[01:25] <Arwen> hell no.
[01:25] <Arwen> you ever tried to use a media player in wine? lol
[01:26] <ardchoille> Xine even supports closed captions, mplayer and vlc don't.
[01:26] <karthikp_> Can't say I have
[01:26] <Arwen> ardchoille, doesn't matter. If it doesn't have SSA support, it doesn't support em as far as I care
[01:26] <Arwen> yeah, painful since most of em depend on DirectX
[01:26] <Arwen> and other MS-related code
[01:28] <Schuenemann> you're too radical
[01:28] <Arwen> uh, no, support for SSA isn't too much to ask...
[01:28] <Arwen> especially since every file I have uses em...
[01:29] <Schuenemann> is there a bug with KDE? I have all windows minimized and it I start a GUI program, one windows is automatically restored
[01:29] <Schuenemann> that's been happening since dapper
[01:29] <Schuenemann> if I start*
[01:30] <karthikp_> Haven't seen it.
[01:30] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, Quebec is already French enough :)
[01:30] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, it's the easiest province to imigrate, right
[01:30] <Schuenemann> ?
[01:31] <darkrift> question..... i think im having memory issues and when i have only 2 things open, I still see things ive closed sitting in the process list (firefox, konq, and lots of others)
[01:32] <darkrift> feels like im running windows mobile with its smart minimize turned on :S
[01:33] <BluesKaj> Schuenemann, yes if you are fluent in french and have a vocation , like a trade, profession or recognized technical expertise
[01:34] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, but do other provinces offer those opportunities to foreigns?
[01:34] <BluesKaj> In business the secret is to have a working knowledge of english
[01:35] <BluesKaj> yes Schuenemann , immigration is a federal jurisdiction in the rest of Canada
[01:36] <Schuenemann> hmm
[01:36] <Schuenemann> I have a bit of english, but french... :)
[01:36] <BluesKaj> Quebec has "special circumstances" under the Canadian immigration laws
[01:38] <BluesKaj> well, that's ok ...one doesn't need french to emigrate to Canada...it's not true that one needs french
[01:39] <Schuenemann> how come? I just took the test (english advanced, french beginner) and was rejected. With french advanced, even with few professional experience I was "approved" =)
[01:40] <BluesKaj> manty euro countries have the wrong impression because the immigration dept is full of francophomes due to the silly bilingual requirements here ...being a bilingual civil servant here (a gov't requirement) is basically being a frenchspeaker who can just barely get by in english
[01:41] <Schuenemann> "here" means quebec or provinces in general?
[01:42] <BluesKaj> yes Schuenemann , there is definite discrimination and bias in favour of francophones
[01:42] <Schuenemann> by the way, I'm not in an euro country :-)
[01:42] <BluesKaj> all of canada
[01:42] <BluesKaj> where are you ?
[01:42] <Schuenemann> brazil
[01:42] <Schuenemann> I supposed that makes it harder
[01:42] <BluesKaj> not sure
[01:43] <BluesKaj> I would apply to settle in one of the western provinces instead of Quebec or Ontario
[01:44] <Schuenemann> I've heard quebec was easier
[01:44] <Schuenemann> a LOT easier
[01:46] <coreymon77> BluesKaj:  what in the world, ontario is not french speaking
[01:47] <coreymon77> BluesKaj: sure we have to take french until grade 9, but other than that, ontario is almost entirely english speaking
[01:47] <Schuenemann> I have a football game to watch, thank you
[01:47] <randoman> anyone know what to do if dpkg --configure -a , wont erase third party modules. in Monitor & Display?
[01:47] <Schuenemann> perhaps you could tell me more someday :-)
[01:48] <BluesKaj> coreymon77, I din't say ontrio was french speaking ..I'm talking about his chances to emigrate are better if he applies to settle out west .
[01:48] <BluesKaj> ontario
[01:49] <BluesKaj> I'm sure you understand my implication there
[01:50] <BluesKaj> coreymon77, i live in Northeastern Ontario and the population in my small town is 40% french ancestry
[01:52] <coreymon77> BluesKaj: thats still not majority
[01:52] <BluesKaj> din't say it was
[01:53] <BluesKaj> but if you have a french family name in this town and you run for mayor , you're guaranteed to to be elected :)
[01:54] <cWolfe> offtopic
[01:54] <BluesKaj> hehe ...took a while
[01:55] <szakulec> hi all, what's the easiest way to get powertop running
[01:55] <BluesKaj> Gents , I'm trying to restore cpu freq scaling ...found the the right tutorial to do it for one session , but upon reboot it's defeated again. I know there's an edit but where ?
[01:57] <BluesKaj> !powertop
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powertop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <BluesKaj> !top
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about top - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <BluesKaj> is the ubotu on strike today ?
[01:58] <Arwen> !on strike
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about on strike - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <Arwen> nope
[01:59] <BluesKaj> did he answer / , nope
[02:00] <BluesKaj> I know there's gotta be a way to edit the /etc/init.d/cpufreqd file, but i wish i knew what to look for :(
[02:07] <fenrig> !wine
[02:08] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:08] <Arwen> !vodka
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vodka - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <fenrig> arwen: look to what ubotu has to say ;)
[02:08] <Arwen> hmm?
[02:09] <devnull> its a sign from God.
[02:09] <devnull> It means you shouldn't drink vodka anymore.
[02:09] <fenrig> devnull: no such thing exist
[02:10] <fenrig> devnull: why would god ever warn us of drinking vodka, he makes money of it
[02:10] <devnull> fenrig: ...
[02:10] <devnull> Kinda insulting.
[02:10] <devnull> As I am Christian.
[02:11] <Arwen> what is this god? I am without the knowledge or even the concept of this "god" you speak of.
[02:11] <fenrig> devnull: so ... I'm too a christian
[02:11] <devnull> fenrig: so you say things like "God makes money off vodka?"...
[02:11] <fenrig> arwen: there is no god we speak of
[02:12] <devnull> And you call yourself a Christian and not believe in God...?
[02:12] <fenrig> arwen: he doesn't exist, he exist in our minds (cancer)
[02:12] <Arwen> fenrig, indeed
[02:12] <fenrig> god=mind cancer
[02:12] <Arwen> NO RELIGIOUS WARS, THANKS
[02:12] <mc__> omfg
[02:12] <mc__> a real religious war
[02:13] <fenrig> oh no where are the terrorists?
[02:13] <mc__> i thougt it was some debian vs red hat like thing
[02:13] <Arwen> No fortunes found
[02:13] <fenrig> debian rulez
[02:13] <Arwen> ,,
[02:13] <Arwen> "I hope you don't like my posts...that is the intent!"
[02:13] <Arwen>   [Brother Orchid, demonstrating how to be christian] 
[02:13] <fenrig> red hat rulez a little bit less
[02:13] <Arwen> fortune -o rules :-)
[02:14] <fenrig> arwen: fortune -o
[02:14] <fenrig> arwen: please explain
[02:14] <Arwen> !info fortunes-off
[02:14] <ubotu> fortunes-off: Data files containing offensive fortune cookies. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.99.1-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 760 kB, installed size 2028 kB
[02:14] <Arwen> one of the essentials
[02:14] <fenrig> arwen: oh, why did i bother
[02:15] <Arwen> hmm?
[02:15] <jussi01> !offtopic | Arwen fenrig
[02:15] <ubotu> Arwen fenrig: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:15] <Arwen> ...
[02:15] <fenrig> ARWEN: join me on that offtopic thing
[02:15] <fenrig> arwen: could be funny
[02:17] <angasule_> !pyqt4
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pyqt4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <angasule> !pyqt
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pyqt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <angasule> !bugs
[02:17] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[02:19] <jussi01> !botabuse
[02:19] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:20] <purpleposeidon> How do I disable ssh logins on an acount?
[02:28] <toast> maybe someone here can help
[02:28] <fenrig> !mastrubation
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mastrubation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <toast> Anyone familiar with oracle... irc bot?
[02:29] <fenrig> well ubotu isn't really a smart bot
[02:29] <toast> right.
[02:29] <toast> haha.
[02:29] <purpleposeidon> toast: try the Internet Oracle.
[02:30] <Arwen> ...
[02:30] <fenrig> arwen: u don't really get the joke do u
[02:30] <toast> hmm.. what's that?.. got an issue with internet explorer... well.. really, the fact that firefox has about 50 tabs to open up and.. ahhh.. I'm trying to avoid doing that right now.  Plus, IE, as you are aware... really fucking bites.
[02:31] <Arwen> toast, what does FF having 50 tabs open have to do with IE?
[02:31] <Arwen> and how do you have an IE issue on Kubuntu?
[02:31] <fenrig> arwen: ie4linux
[02:31] <toast> I haven't migrated yet... that's all.
[02:31] <intelikey> howto dl 64bit packages on a 32bit system  (dapper) ?       i have a list but it would take forever and a day to use http://packages.ubuntu.org  to get them all    takes # minutes just to find one...   ???
[02:31] <toast> and my initial question has to do with the IRC bot Oracle.
[02:31] <Arwen> hmm
[02:32] <fenrig> toast: is oracle any smarter?
[02:32] <raymond> what is a good linux antivirus scanner? I need to scan some windows drives and figured the safest bet would be to do it from somewhere that wont hose my windows system
[02:32] <jussi01> clamav
[02:32] <fenrig> raymon: avast
[02:32] <peanutb> raymond, claimav?
[02:32] <toast> The server crashed and now my channel is invite only... I can't remember how to msg oracle so I can !clearmodes.  That's why I'm talking in here to begin with.
[02:32] <Arwen> clam is probably the only choice
[02:32] <jussi01> !antivirus
[02:32] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[02:32] <Arwen> but it doesn't have very high detection rates
[02:33] <toast> Thank you for the help, fenrig.  It's much appreciated.
[02:33] <toast> :i
[02:33] <intelikey> !linuxvirus
[02:33] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[02:33] <slop> how do i switch it so my sound comes out of my onboard sound card instead of my PCI card?
[02:33] <fenrig> toast: ?
[02:33] <toast> in the BIOS, slop
[02:33] <peanutb> raymond, panda AV also offers a linux product i think
[02:33] <slop> toast: thx!
[02:33] <raymond> i tried getting ClamAV but adept keeps saying it couldnt commit changes becuase it would break something
[02:34] <fenrig> raymond: do this
[02:34] <fenrig> raymond: sudo apt-get install ClamAV
[02:34] <toast> the comment about oracle being any smarter than??? who or what, fenrig?  Maybe it only came across as being condescending but really was a compliment.  I don't know.
[02:35] <raymond> couldnt find package
[02:35] <fenrig> raymond post this output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:35] <fenrig> raymond wait i will check this for u
[02:36] <raymond> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27351/
[02:37] <fenrig> raymond:sudo apt-get install clamav
[02:37] <fenrig> raymond post the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27351/
[02:37] <Arwen> damn it, anti-aliased fonts don't work with CRTs
[02:37] <fenrig> arwen: ask santa for another new screen
[02:38] <Arwen> lol, CRTs rule, they just don't have subpixels
[02:38] <dan> hello?
[02:38] <Arwen> dan, bye?
[02:38] <dan> hello?
[02:38] <dan> bye?
[02:39] <fenrig> raymond?
[02:39] <raymond> yes
[02:39] <fenrig> sudo apt-get install clamav
[02:39] <fenrig> do this
[02:39] <raymond> ah no caps
[02:39] <fenrig> sorry
[02:40] <raymond> errored out
[02:40] <fenrig> post the output on paste.ubuntu.nl.org
[02:40] <raymond> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27352/
[02:41] <jhutchins_lt> raymond: We _try_ to get all the package names forced to no caps, but a few still squeek by, especially if you go to unofficial repositories.
[02:42] <jhutchins_lt> raymond: Ah, there we go, script error:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:42] <fenrig> raymond: do u have msn?
[02:42] <raymond> yeah
[02:42] <jhutchins_lt> raymond: try sudo dpkg --configure clamav-base
[02:42] <fenrig> wanna do this on msn?
[02:43] <raymond> sure let me log in there. evil_h@hotmail.com
[02:46] <drkfce> Hey all.  Anyone familiar with minicom?
[02:48] <fenrig> drkfce: nope, tell
[02:49] <drkfce> Well, it's basically the linux version of hyperterminal or SecureCRT
[02:50] <drkfce> but my question may not be specific to minicom
[02:50] <intelikey> anybody saavy ?    howto dl 64bit packages on a 32bit system  (dapper) ?       i have a list but it would take forever and a day to use http://packages.ubuntu.org  to get them all    takes # minutes just to find just one, because it's all split up into sections...   ???
[02:50] <drkfce> I want to make a macro in the program, and it allows me to enter text for a specific button
[02:51] <drkfce> I want to know if there is a switch is equivalent to the return key
[02:51] <drkfce> like "show run \r"
[02:51] <intelikey> ;
[02:51] <fenrig> i think this depends on the macro language
[02:51] <drkfce> Hehe, too bad I can't test it now, the switch is at work
[02:54] <intelikey> hehhe  http://www.cs.umsl.edu/~sanjiv/sys_sec/security/thompson/hack.html
[02:54] <intelikey> so nobody knows an answer to my Q ?
[02:56] <intelikey> nobody anybody somebody ???
[02:56] <drkfce> nope, linux newbie myself :(
[02:56] <intelikey> well "bother says poo".
[02:56] <darkrift> lol
[02:56] <darkrift> write a script
[02:57] <darkrift> make the list into a text file and make the script read and dl each line
[02:57] <darkrift> i could do it for mirc :)
[02:57] <intelikey> darkrift i need the address and it's not just one some will be in universe some in main.....
[02:57] <darkrift> thats the only language i know
[02:57] <darkrift> oh, i c
[02:57] <intelikey> i was wondering if anyone had already trod this path...
[02:58] <darkrift> mirror it
[02:58] <darkrift> i know there is a link on there to mirror it to disc or something
[02:58] <intelikey> on dialup ?
[02:58] <darkrift> oh
[02:58] <darkrift> ouch :S
[02:58] <intelikey> shame i'm just out of reach  ?
[02:59] <dan> df
[03:00] <intelikey> this cotten picken' tosheba laptop with it's built in propritary everything.   vidio don't work in 32bit mode and the modem (winmodem) doesn't work at all...    and i don't have enough hardware to build a local network this week.
[03:01] <ubuntu__> kubutu stop working need help
[03:01] <ubuntu__> I'm using live cd now
[03:01] <intelikey> ubuntu_ did it get fired, go on strick, or just quit ?   :)
[03:02] <ubuntu__> ?
[03:02] <intelikey> ubuntu_ i mean unless you can be more specific we can't help.
[03:02] <ubuntu__> sorry
[03:03] <ubuntu__> I started me pc today and it goes on to the boot screen the to a black screen
[03:03] <ubuntu__> I mean then toa black screen
[03:03] <intelikey> ok.  and a little info on the hardware and os version please
[03:05] <william_> kjk
[03:05] <ubuntu__> Got KUBUNTU 3.5.6
[03:08] <intelikey> ubuntu__ maybe you are busy...    but let me specify anyway.   is it feisty ubuntu  or some other flavour ?    and are you using ati, nvidia, intel, or some other graphics    maybe you could also tell us if it's 32 or 64 bit cpu,     and it might even be helpful to know if you have been installing/configuring/or removing anything lately
[03:09] <wolferine> thats a long breath there intel :)
[03:09] <ubuntu__> yes feistry, nvidia 7900gt, intel coreduo 64 bit cpu
[03:09] <intelikey> wolferine you should see when i get warmed up...
[03:09] <wolferine> hehe
[03:09] <fenrig> ubuntu_: almost sounds like u stole my pc :D
[03:10] <wolferine> feistry?
[03:10] <fenrig> typo
[03:10] <intelikey> ubuntu__   ok and  installed anything lately ?    "specificly dealing with the kernel or vidio drivers"  ?
[03:10] <fenrig> dont whine
[03:11] <ubuntu__> I was working on getting my xternal drive to work.  I was following ubuntus how to install it manual. Which I did and it work but I turn pc on today it the problem started
[03:12] <ubuntu__> fenrig- don't leave the window open next time
[03:14] <fenrig> ubuntu_: i always forget that part ;)
[03:14] <ubuntu__> lol
[03:14] <intelikey> ubuntu__   need you to reboot the box  and when the grub menu comes up (or press [esc]  to get to it before grub starts to load anything)    select the safemode line and press E  then select the kernel line and press E   add 'no' to the word splash, making it "nosplash" and add vga=0x0f05 to the end of the line.  press [enter]   press B     then watch the text scroll by until it stops or the last line thats visiable...   whic
[03:15] <fenrig> or
[03:15] <fenrig> when your box reboots
[03:15] <fenrig> and when the grub menu comes up
[03:15] <intelikey> !enter
[03:15] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:15] <fenrig> choose ubuntu blablabla (recovery)
[03:16] <ubuntu__> new guy what is grub?
[03:16] <fenrig> intelikey: my name is fenrig and I'm a addict
[03:16] <intelikey> the boot loader  that lets you select the os you want to start
[03:16] <fenrig> ubuntu_: what that other guy said
[03:16] <fenrig> ubuntu_: you maybe have to press esc
[03:17] <fenrig> ubuntu_: grub appears somewhere before the "kubuntu" splash with the loadbar
[03:17] <ubuntu__> ok i;l try
[03:18] <fenrig> ;)
[03:19] <fenrig> intelikey: the I/O proces
[03:20] <randoman> anyone know why xinerama would disable direct rendering?
[03:21] <fenrig> check your drivers
[03:22] <randoman> they were fine
[03:22] <randoman> im using the opensource ones
[03:22] <fenrig> the video card?
[03:22] <fenrig> ati or nvidia?
[03:22] <randoman> radeon 9800
[03:22] <randoman> ati
[03:22] <fenrig> can be a problem
[03:22] <randoman> oh i know
[03:22] <randoman> its a bunch of fun
[03:22] <randoman> P
[03:22] <randoman> :P
[03:22] <fenrig> because ati drivers aren'( really supported
[03:22] <randoman> mergedfb works
[03:23] <randoman> but when I identify the monitors it identifys both on 1 monitor
[03:23] <fenrig> well i don't have any expierence with ati
[03:23] <fenrig> so i cant help
[03:23] <randoman> well thanks
[03:23] <fenrig> randoman: a little tip try xinerama with the terminal
[03:24] <randoman> whats that
[03:24] <fenrig> maybe there is some error info in the terminal
[03:24] <randoman> oh ok
[03:24] <randoman> gotch ya
[03:24] <Sayers> Does gusty work well enough to be usable?
[03:24] <fenrig> randoman: if u dont understand this then say
[03:24] <randoman> i do
[03:24] <fenrig> sayers: yeah only the packages can be a pain in the ass
[03:25] <fenrig> randoman: okay :D
[03:25] <Sayers> why fenrig?
[03:25] <fenrig> sayers: gutsy is still alpha
[03:25] <fenrig> sayers: very experimental
[03:25] <Sayers> :(
[03:25] <Sayers> does it not have apt-get?
[03:25] <randoman> Xinerama isnt found
[03:25] <fenrig> sayers: but still 100% compatibel with feisty
[03:26] <fenrig> randoman: ill search the command for u
[03:26] <Sayers> dpkg
[03:26] <fenrig> sayers: thats not it
[03:26] <Sayers> okay
[03:26] <Sayers> I want to use KDE4
[03:26] <fenrig> sayers: i mean that some software packages are experimental
[03:27] <fenrig> sayers: try qemu and download the suse kde4 live snapshot cd
[03:27] <fenrig> sayers: kde4 is also a pain in the ass really really experimental
[03:27] <Ender> How is everyone tonight?
[03:28] <Sayers> fenrig: so not even worth it?
[03:29] <randoman> i found this
[03:29] <randoman> (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[03:29] <randoman> int he Xorg.0.log
[03:29] <randoman> same with (EE) AIGLX: Screen 1 is not DRI capable
[03:29] <Ender> My wife just finally switched to Linux for the first time yesterday.  I use Gentoo and I thought I was fairly knowledable, but we've had some bumps our first night using Kubuntu on her laptop and I was hoping you guys might be able to help us out.
[03:30] <Sayers> What are the bumps
[03:30] <fenrig> ender: please tell
[03:30] <randoman> and (WW) RADEON(1): Direct rendering disabled
[03:30] <randoman> humm
[03:30] <fenrig> randoman: driver problem
[03:30] <randoman> yeah
[03:30] <randoman> i may have to venture to fglrx ewww and Xgl
[03:31] <fenrig> randoman: wait on the official 7.10 gutsy release i happend to read something about (k)ubuntu fixing this for the 7.10 release
[03:31] <randoman> but im goign to try some these option
[03:31] <randoman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#head-4353128024338b05ba40d5e5c837ff7b65f55b78
[03:31] <randoman> nice
[03:31] <fenrig> randoman: its not anymore in my hands, but in gods
[03:31] <randoman> lol
[03:31] <Ender> First off, the keyboard and touchpad are both acting a bit weird.  I may file a bug report on it.  The touchpad is often unresponsive (using xorg-synaptic driver) and either a key will repeat very quickly, or at times, like if I hold down backspace I want it to repeat but it wont
[03:31] <randoman> ill figure something out
[03:31] <randoman> or ill have to live with mergedfb
[03:31] <randoman> for now
[03:32] <randoman> thanks man
[03:32] <fenrig> randoman: no problem
[03:32] <Ender> Secondly, I installed the sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jre and yet java isn't working in Firefox.  My wife got an invite to try out Puzzle Pirates, and would like to get the site working.
[03:32] <randoman> i just want my compiz fusion back :P
[03:33] <fenrig> ender: for the second problem
[03:33] <Sayers> Ender: you need the plugin
[03:34] <Ender> Thirdly, this isn't huge, but the binary ATI driver isn't working.  She has a Radeon X300 in her laptop.  I apt-get installed fglrx-control and ran ati-config which was fine, but I'm getting the Mesa error with fglrxinfo.  And the "mesa fix" didn't work
[03:34] <Sayers> Did you follow the wiki for installing ATI drivers Ender?
[03:34] <Ender> Puzzle Pirates directed us to the Sun Java download page, which gave us a .rpm.bin file which won't install with rpm.
[03:34] <Ender> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[03:34] <ubuntu_> i'm back
[03:35] <Sayers> Ender: apt-cache search Java Plugin
[03:35] <Sayers> !java
[03:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[03:35] <fenrig> open up the terminal and type:sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[03:35] <Ender> We're running Feisty
[03:35] <Ender> Cool, that sounds easy, thanks!
[03:36] <fenrig> ender: cant help with the first problem tough
[03:36] <Sayers> fenrig: Didn't know the package name :P
[03:36] <obvio171> "sudo gem install <gem>" isn't putting the gems in PATH. does anyone know if that's something with the Ubuntu gem package or with gem itself?
[03:36] <fenrig> sayers: i had too search too :D
[03:37] <Ender> Lastly, and this may be a Windows issue, but I've got a temporary Win2k box up.  I just replaced all the hardware in my desktop and on the weekend I intend to reinstall a fresh dual-boot of Winx64 and Gentoo.  Until then, we've got this Win2k box...
[03:37] <Ender> ...which our printer is hooked to.  I installed Samba on my wife's Kubuntu laptop, and I can see the file/drive shares on this box, but not the printer.
[03:38] <ubuntu_> I still can get kubuntu to start properly
[03:38] <randoman> ok
[03:38] <randoman> well i totally figured it out
[03:38] <randoman> i have to use mergedfb
[03:38] <randoman> Direct Rendering Disabled -- Dual-head configuration is not working with DRI at present.
[03:38] <randoman> Please use the radeon MergedFB option if you want Dual-head with DRI.
[03:38] <randoman> that was in the Xorg.0.log
[03:38] <fenrig> randoman: much luck
[03:38] <randoman> yeah i have to use mergedfb with dual head
[03:39] <randoman> and direct rendering
[03:39] <randoman> according to the log
[03:39] <fenrig> Ender: open up the terminal and type kcontrol and try to configure your printer there put make sure its on
[03:39] <fenrig> ender: and try a lot of options
[03:40] <ubuntu_> kubutu will not start properly.  It goes to the black screen
[03:40] <ubuntu_> help pls
[03:40] <fenrig> ubuntu_: wiht what error?
[03:40] <ubuntu_> How do I find error?
[03:40] <fenrig> well
[03:41] <Ender> Thanks everyone!  I have to run off to work.  At least we got Java fixed for now, and we'll work on the rest tomorrow!
[03:41] <fenrig> when grub starts (just before the kubuntu splash with the loadbar)
[03:41] <ubuntu_> It just goes to the kubutu screen then to another kubutu screen then black scren
[03:41] <fenrig> choose ubuntu kernel ... (recovery ...)
[03:41] <Ender> Yeah... should I change the kernel load option?
[03:42] <ubuntu_> how do you do this?
[03:42] <fenrig> ender: no i mean settings
[03:42] <fenrig> ubuntu_: wait
[03:42] <Ender> I think I know what you mean.
[03:43] <fenrig> ender: linux printer support is bad
[03:43] <fenrig> ubuntu_: okay this is what I want u to do
[03:44] <fenrig> ubuntu_: do u have a nfts drive, or a dualboot with windows, linux, mac osx, bsd, ... etc?
[03:44] <Ender> I'm thinking of upgrading the kernel as soon as 2.6.22-rc6-mm1 comes out.  I'm a fan of the new CFS.
[03:44] <ubuntu_> dualboot with xp
[03:45] <fenrig> ender: what are the new features of that new kernel?
[03:45] <fenrig> ubuntu_: so u get like this menu when it asks if u want to boot ubuntu or windows
[03:45] <ubuntu_> yes
[03:46] <Ender> Updated drivers, the CFS scheduler, rewritten block code...
[03:46] <ubuntu_> ubuntu then ubuto safe mode then xp
[03:46] <Ender> I have to head out for work though!  Thanks everyone!
[03:46] <fenrig> ubuntu_: somewhere there there is this entry called: ubuntu kernel <version of your kernel> recovery
[03:46] <fenrig> or something like that
[03:47] <fenrig> it has to do with ubuntu and recovery in one sentence
[03:47] <ubuntu_> yes when i select E
[03:47] <fenrig> no forget E
[03:48] <fenrig> u have to be able to chose it not edit it
[03:48] <ubuntu_> ok
[03:48] <ubuntu_> what next
[03:50] <fenrig> ubuntu_: http://ca.geocities.com/zachandloricox%40rogers.com/ubuntu/IMG_0345.JPG
[03:50] <fenrig> the second entry
[03:50] <fenrig> ubuntu, kernel <version> (recovery mode)
[03:50] <jriachi> is there something like head and tail, but called middle of something , to get x lines starting from line y?
[03:51] <fenrig> choose that option/entry and closely read all the text u get to see try to figure out what the error is
[03:51] <fenrig> got it?
[03:51] <ubuntu_> cool I need to learn how to do that
[03:52] <ubuntu_> Ok I'll be back cause i'm running live
[03:54] <Agent_bob> ooops.
[03:55] <fenrig> ?
[03:57] <Fable> i have a problem here. whenever i start azureus it pops up for a sec but disappears. maybe iammissing some files. please help
[03:57] <cescalante> Fable: what distro?
[03:57] <Fable> kubutu
[03:57] <Fable> kubuntu
[03:58] <cescalante> Feisty? Dapper?
[03:58] <Fable> feisty
[03:58] <cescalante> see I was the opposite
[03:58] <Fable> well i do have something else
[03:58] <fenrig> fable: does azureus still run after the pop up
[03:58] <cescalante> I couldn't get it to run on Dapper
[03:58] <emiliano75> good night my friends
[03:58] <cescalante> night
[03:58] <Agent_bob> root root, more than root; i am init, i can do anything...  </hums_la_la_la,la,la_la>
[03:59] <underdog5004> wow...
[03:59] <emiliano75> i have a problem with vlc......
[03:59] <peanutb> Agent_bob, how do you become init?
[03:59] <emiliano75> when i try to open a flv file don't happen nothing
[03:59] <cescalante> hey I've got a question, 2.2 GHz AMD, 512 MB Ram, on board video, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, or Ubuntu?
[04:00] <kristi> I have a problem with k3b... trying to burn a video DVD gives an error saying that not all the necessary video files are on the disc.  Am I missing something?
[04:00] <coreymon77> Agent_bob: cant root do anything?
[04:00] <Agent_bob> peanutb you have to start at the beginning,   when the world began...
[04:00] <fenrig> emiliano: check internet connection, and the flv file
[04:00] <Agent_bob> peanutb something like kernel line + init=/bin/bash
[04:01] <Fable> i downloaded azureus3.jar and replaced the 2.5 however i encountered some problems with kdesu kate /usr...to have it in the kmenu. the result was i deleted all files that had azureus and left the ones in the usr/local...then after that i reinstalled azureus2 from adept and thats the one that starts lingers for one second then disappears
[04:01] <Agent_bob> coreymon77 can root kill init ?
[04:01] <emiliano75> i donwload the flv file in my pc.... the gui for vlc is open but i don't see nothing
[04:01] <fenrig> purge the azureaus package in adept
[04:01] <coreymon77> Agent_bob: wouldnt that be pretty much killing your entire system?
[04:01] <Fable> i did
[04:01] <Fable> no go
[04:02] <ubuntu_> I'm back
[04:02] <Fable> fenrig: sorry i already did
[04:02] <fenrig> fable: delete the .azureus folder in your home folder (/home/fable/)
[04:02] <Agent_bob> coreymon77 yep.  and kernel would panic.  but root can't do that.  init however can.
[04:02] <ubuntu_> fenrig- Did what you told me and I only saw one error
[04:02] <Fable> ok
[04:03] <Fable> i'll try tht
[04:03] <crxyem> is this the correct place to ask about upgrading from 6.10 to 7.04 ??
[04:03] <crxyem> or is there a better suited channel for those Q?
[04:03] <icecruncher> !upgrade | crxyem
[04:03] <ubotu> crxyem: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:03] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ what was it ?
[04:03] <ubuntu_> error is mounting local file system
[04:03] <crxyem> ty for the direction
[04:04] <Fable> fenrig: its done
[04:04] <Fable> now i should just go to adept and reinstall
[04:04] <ubuntu_> mount: special device /dev/sdb1 ,sbd2. and sdb3
[04:04] <kristi> I'm trying to burn an .MPEG video to DVD with k3b, but it gives an error saying that not all the necessary video files are included... and that the size of the resulting image file could not be determined.  What am I missing?
[04:04] <fenrig> fable: okay
[04:05] <tarnold> hey all
[04:05] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ ok sounds like an /etc/fstab issue maybe.      that's "removable" media ?
[04:05] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ USB ?
[04:05] <fenrig> ubuntu_: wait a min
[04:05] <tarnold> how can i delete some of the defualt services, such as rythmbox and totem without breaking the ubuntu desktop?  I just don't want those apps
[04:06] <ubuntu_> Yes that what I had stated before I followed ubutu how to install it manual
[04:06] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_   maybe using the "UUID=" for those fs's would help you?
[04:06] <level1> can you get an up-to-date open source java (like the one from sun) in the ubuntu repos by now?
[04:06] <ubuntu_> I do recall some command to remove or uninstall something
[04:07] <Fable> fenrig: there are 2 versions of azureus here, the regular and azureus-gcj whats the difference
[04:07] <kristi> I'm trying to burn an .MPEG video to DVD with k3b, but it gives an error saying that not all the necessary video files are included... and that the size of the resulting image file could not be determined.  What am I missing?
[04:08] <ubuntu_> How is that file related to the main drive?
[04:10] <Agent_bob> mmm ubuntu_ there is probably a log of the commands you issued on the command line    the installed systems //home/<name>/.bash_history   and a log of what dpkg has done in  //var/log/dpkg.log
 How is that file related to the main drive? <<< ?
[04:10] <Fable> there are 2 versions of azureus here, the regular and azureus-gcj whats the difference
[04:12] <fenrig> install the azureus one the ~-gcj is a problem package
[04:12] <Fable> fenrig: so youre saying to stick to just the regular
[04:14] <BluesKaj> azureus is a prob pkg ...java hog
[04:14] <Fable> i know it is
[04:15] <Fable> what can you recommand over azureus
[04:15] <Fable> cause it supports lots of stuff
[04:15] <Fable> thats why
[04:15] <BluesKaj> ktorrent
[04:15] <fenrig> yeah ktorrent is much better
[04:15] <Fable> IYO which is the best client for linux
[04:16] <BluesKaj> my experience tells me ktorrent ...too bad there isn't utorrent for linux , cuz ktorrent is the closest IMO
[04:16] <NamShub> screen + btdownloadcurses-bittornado :)
[04:17] <Fable> ic
[04:17] <Fable> what do you think fenrig?
[04:17] <coreymon77> BluesKaj: utorrent for linux is in development, but in the mean time, it works absolutely perfect over wine
[04:18] <BluesKaj> there are somewho disagree , but i'm sticking with ktorrent ...I like it's features NAT &  port forwarding etc
[04:18] <coreymon77> BluesKaj: the utorrent site says that wine is the best alternative for the moment, works comepletely perfect
[04:18] <Fable> wine?
[04:18] <BluesKaj> cool coreymon77 , i hadn't considered running it in wine
[04:18] <Agent_bob> aside from pornography and warez, is there any real use for torrents ?
[04:18] <Fable> wine is a bittorrent client?
[04:19] <coreymon77> BluesKaj: it works as if native
[04:19] <coreymon77> Fable: no, wine allows you to run many windows programs on linux
[04:19] <coreymon77> Fable: its nowhere near perfect
[04:19] <Fable> oh ok
[04:19] <coreymon77> Fable: but things work
[04:19] <szakulec> Agent Bob:downloading very large files?
[04:19] <fenrig> agent_bob: yes look to ho u can download a distro
[04:19] <Fable> that souds cool
[04:19] <Agent_bob> !info wine | fable
[04:19] <ubotu> fable: wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[04:20] <Fable> oh
[04:20] <Fable> cool
[04:20] <Fable> too bad my windows trashed out
[04:20] <coreymon77> Agent_bob: bittorrent is used for many legal things aswell
[04:20] <coreymon77> Fable: makes no diff
[04:20] <Fable> crashed, all i have is linux
[04:20] <coreymon77> Fable: you are thinking that wine runs your current windows installation in the background and runs the programs like that right?
[04:21] <coreymon77> Fable: thats not what it does
[04:21] <Agent_bob> coreymon77 hmmmm...
[04:21] <Fable> ok
[04:21] <coreymon77> Fable: you dont need windows installed or working for wine
[04:21] <Agent_bob> Fable wine = wine is not an emulator.
[04:21] <Fable> so you can have wine without windows intalled
[04:21] <coreymon77> Fable: wine is an accronym, Wine Is Not an Emulator
[04:22] <coreymon77> Fable: yes, its not a virtual machine
[04:22] <Fable> oh ic
[04:22] <Fable> what are its known uses
[04:22] <Agent_bob> Fable yes you can have wine and use wine with as little as one file.exe that you want to run.
[04:23] <Fable> ok
[04:23] <coreymon77> Fable: albeit, running the programs in eitehr a virtual machine or in actual windows is better, but wine is good if you are in a pinch or if you only want to run a couple of programs and dont want to install windows just for that
[04:23] <Agent_bob> known uses already named.   wine utorent.exe
[04:23] <Fable> oh really
[04:23] <coreymon77> yup
[04:23] <Fable> how much space does it take
[04:24] <Fable> i could use utorrent
[04:24] <coreymon77> depends
[04:24] <coreymon77> the actual wine program, not much
[04:24] <coreymon77> Fable: what takes up space is what programs you use
[04:24] <Agent_bob> !info wine | fable
[04:24] <ubotu> fable: wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[04:24] <Fable> ah not much
[04:24] <Agent_bob> package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[04:25] <Agent_bob> 44m
[04:25] <coreymon77> althoug, if you install a bunch of big windows programs with wine
[04:25] <coreymon77> that could use a lot of space
[04:25] <Fable> all i need is utorrent actually
[04:25] <coreymon77> i also use wine to run mirc (i host an mirc bot)
[04:25] <coreymon77> Fable: that will take very little space
[04:26] <coreymon77> Fable: install wine through apt, then download utorrent for windows
[04:26] <Fable> iam getting a replacement CD in a week from Alienware but yes i would like to use it for utorrent
[04:26] <coreymon77> then click on the .exe file
[04:27] <coreymon77> Fable: and continue as if you were doing it on windows
[04:27] <Fable> ok
[04:27] <Agent_bob> or is it AOEsetup.exe
[04:27] <Agent_bob> anywhen.
[04:27] <Fable> so adept serach for "wine"
[04:28] <coreymon77> Fable: just do sudo apt-get install wine
[04:28] <Agent_bob> it's in universe
[04:28] <Fable> ok
[04:28] <evsophomore2009> !wine
[04:28] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:29] <coreymon77> Fable: then just download utorrent for windows, click on the exe file and continue like normal
[04:30] <Fable> as if iam running windows
[04:30] <ubuntu_> still need help with kubuntu not running
[04:31] <Agent_bob> i never learned the whole pointy clicky thing, always just typed in   wine /path/to/file.exe
[04:31] <BluesKaj> coreymon77, seems like utorrent is working ok :)
[04:31] <coreymon77> BluesKaj: told ya
[04:31] <Fable> wow this is cool
[04:32] <Agent_bob> BluesKaj can you see about ubuntu_   i'm lagging about 20 seconds
[04:32] <Agent_bob> or coreymon77 ^
[04:32] <Agent_bob> Jucato even ?
[04:32] <coreymon77> Agent_bob: pointy-clicky thing? you just go to your home directory and click on it
[04:33] <Fable> go figure azureus works now
[04:33] <coreymon77> Agent_bob: sorry, no can do, shower time
[04:33] <Fable> so utorrent is in dev. for linux i take it
[04:33] <evsophomore2009> !language
[04:33] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:33] <foose12> so if i fownload wine, it lets me use windows .exe's?
[04:33] <evsophomore2009> Foose12: yep it does
[04:33] <coreymon77> Fable: why use azureus? just wine utorrent
[04:33] <foose12> cool
[04:33] <coreymon77> foose12: it doesnt always work though
[04:33] <Fable> i will
[04:33] <Fable> thats corey
[04:33] <Fable> thanks corey*
[04:33] <foose12> i'll test it out
[04:34] <coreymon77> foose12: dont run anything too intensive
[04:34] <evsophomore2009> is anyone familiar with Limewire?
[04:34] <Fable> yes
[04:34] <rathel> I need some help with Amarok, My playlists are not showing up, If I save a playlist with the same name it says that it already exists.
[04:34] <foose12> btw, is kubuntu better than ubuntu to have
[04:34] <level1> hello, how to I change the path that programs executed from the command line are changed in and make it persistant?
[04:34] <level1> is it called PATH?
[04:34] <evsophomore2009> Fable: for some reason, after playing a few songs it makes a noise (like an Error) and i cant play music untill i restart Limewire
[04:34] <GrueTamer> foose12: kubuntu is ubuntu with a different desktop environment with some different programs to start with, but theyre like the same thing
[04:34] <coreymon77> foose12: makes no difference, its just your prefference between kde or gnome
[04:35] <foose12> cool
[04:35] <foose12> runs the same programs thoguh right
[04:35] <Fable> ex:check your options
[04:35] <evsophomore2009> Fable: has that happend to you?
[04:35] <Fable> yes once
[04:35] <evsophomore2009> Fable: What options?
[04:35] <Fable> corey: i installed wine
[04:37] <ubuntu_> any one?
[04:37] <evsophomore2009> Fable: do you know exactly what tab and optnios to choose?
[04:39] <dthacker> OT: How can I restart just the network portion of the ubuntu-server install?  (ubuntu-server channel is very quiet)
[04:39] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ sorry that no one is here to help right now.   maybe if you ask in   #ubuntu  they can help.
[04:39] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: what is the problem
[04:40] <Agent_bob> dthacker maybe sudo /etc/init.d/network* restart
[04:40] <ubuntu_> Last night I found away to get my xternal drive to be seen on desktop using one of ubuntus help forums
[04:41] <Fable> ev: not exactly
[04:41] <dthacker> Agent_bob: tnx.  That restarts the network, but I want to restart the install dialog.  The dim recesses of my debian install memories tell me it can be done....
[04:41] <Fable> go through and make sure you are not conflicting. if not just reinstall after removing the old files
[04:41] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: its not automatically detected
[04:41] <ubuntu_> Today I started the pc and can get it to boot properly. It show the KUBUNTU screen then a nother screen the just a black screen
[04:42] <Agent_bob> dthacker ubiquity ?
[04:42] <coreymon77> Fable: and, did you get utorrent yet?
[04:42] <dthacker> Agent_bob: hey, worth a try!
[04:42] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: when its in the kubuntu screen, hit alt-f1 to see the output, then tell us what it gets stuck on
[04:43] <BluesKaj> coreymon77, where is the default browser option for the utorrent search box
[04:43] <rustalot> When I try to do "suggested Songs" in Amarok, it doesn't work
[04:43] <dthacker> bbl: the server lives in the dungeon.  (basement)
[04:43] <Agent_bob> dthacker might dpkg-reconfigure something  ?    i'm not sure exactly what you are asking,   and i'm lagging almost to the point of dsync
[04:43] <ubuntu_> ok I'll try
[04:43] <evsophomore2009> is anyone here familliar with Wine?
[04:43] <bonbonthejon> evsophomore2009: red or white? :)
[04:44] <evsophomore2009> cute
[04:44] <dthacker> evsophomore2009: only at the command line
[04:44] <bonbonthejon> evsophomore2009: whats the question
[04:44] <Fable> i like white myself
[04:44] <rustalot> evsophomore: I'm not really familiar, but I might be able to help
[04:44] <bonbonthejon> !ask
[04:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:44] <evsophomore2009> Bonbonthejon: well i wanna install iTunes and it saids
[04:44] <evsophomore2009> mike@mike-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install wineitunessetup.cd
[04:44] <evsophomore2009> Reading package lists... Done
[04:44] <evsophomore2009> Building dependency tree
[04:44] <evsophomore2009> Reading state information... Done
[04:44] <evsophomore2009> E: Couldn't find package wineitunessetup.cd
[04:45] <evsophomore2009> mike@mike-desktop:~$ wine itunessetup.cd
[04:45] <evsophomore2009> wine: creating configuration directory '/home/mike/.wine'...
[04:45] <evsophomore2009> wine: '/home/mike/.wine' created successfully.
[04:45] <evsophomore2009> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\itunessetup.cd": Module not found
[04:45] <evsophomore2009> i know i know Pastebin
[04:45] <evsophomore2009> sorry
[04:45] <bonbonthejon> evsophomore2009: you need to do "sudo apt-get install wine", then run "wine itunessetup.exe"
[04:45] <dthacker> we'll forgive you, *this* time
[04:45] <dthacker> :)
[04:45] <evsophomore2009> i already installed wine in Adept
[04:45] <bonbonthejon> evsophomore2009: and I'm not sure if itunes works under wine. Plus, Amarok is better anyway
[04:46] <evsophomore2009> ew i hate Amarok
[04:46] <bonbonthejon> evsophomore2009: so run "wine itunessetup.exe"
[04:46] <rustalot> except I can't get the suggest songs to work
[04:46] <evsophomore2009> i clicked on the itunes setup and its installing now
[04:46] <dthacker> rustalot: have you tried the #amarok channel?
[04:47] <dthacker> rustalot: they helped me with some last.fm scrobbling issues.
[04:47] <foose12> does amarok support mp3?
[04:47] <dthacker> !mp3 | foose12
[04:47] <ubotu> foose12: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:48] <rustalot> i.e., yes but you need proprietary codecs
[04:48] <rathel> I need some help with Amarok, My playlists are not showing up, If I save a playlist with the same name it says that it already exists.
[04:48] <foose12> rustalot: thanks
[04:48] <rustalot> btw, is it possible to import MSN or Google contacts into Kontact?
[04:49] <evsophomore2009> hmm this dosent make sence
[04:49] <bonbonthejon> rustalot: yeah, I use kopete and Google chat (hjabber)
[04:49] <evsophomore2009> iTunes says its installed, and under All Programs, but its actully not installed.  on Terminal i type in itunes and it wont load
[04:50] <bonbonthejon> evsophomore2009: you need to go to the directory and then do "wine itunes.exe"
[04:50] <rustalot> I like pidgin, myself, but I might switch. I used to use GNOME, but I switched over to K. I notice stuff integrates a lot more
[04:50] <evsophomore2009> c:\\windows\\system32\\itunes.exe could not be found
[04:51] <ubuntu_> Ok back again
[04:51] <evsophomore2009> Binbonthejon: did you get that?
[04:52] <ubuntu_> error  happens at:  mounting local file system
[04:52] <bonbonthejon> evsophomore2009: yeah, is that where it installed?
[04:53] <evsophomore2009> i guess...how do i find out?
[04:53] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: can you put in a live cd and check out the partitions? that doesn't sound right to get stuck there. What filesystems did you use
[04:53] <bonbonthejon> evsophomore2009: I don't know
[04:54] <rustalot> poupineldevalence
[04:54] <ubuntu_> I'm using the live cd now
[04:54] <rustalot> err oops wrong program
[04:54] <jriachi> mmm... if there was a problem downloading the .debs.. will apt-get check its md5 or something and warn me?
[04:54] <ubuntu_> Forgot to add to error: mount: special device /dev/sdb1
[04:55] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: can you do "fdisk -l"
[04:55] <snake_> hi to all
[04:55] <ubuntu_> using live cd?
[04:56] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: yeah
[04:56] <ubuntu_> no nothing happens
[04:56] <snake_> i have a problem with my sound card. it was ok but i do not know what i messed up. i did sudo apt-get autoremove and its not working anymore
[04:57] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: I dont play with the live cd, so I dont know. hopefuly someone else can help
[04:57] <ubuntu_> by the way the error that I'm getting is my external drive  but why would that effect my main drive?
[04:57] <evsophomore2009> Anyone here good with Wine & Itunes?
[04:57] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: if it can't mount it, I guess it gets stuck. Can you edit fstab and comment it out
[04:58] <ubuntu_> I did do a command to remove a file based on ubuntus help f
[04:58] <ubuntu_> How do I do that?
[04:59] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: mount the HDD, something like "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media"
[04:59] <snake_> i have a problem with my sound card. it was ok but i do not know what i messed up. i did sudo apt-get autoremove and its not working anymore
[04:59] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: or if its not too much trouble, unplug the drive and reinstall
[05:00] <ubuntu_> ok i'll try it
[05:00] <ubuntu_> i'll be back
[05:06] <rustalot> So now that I have a bunch of contacts/groups in Kopete, how do I put them into Kontact?
[05:07] <crxyem> ok, I;m ready do do an update from edgy to feisty , my question is I use connection-manager for my wireless connection and I noticed 7.04 uses knetwork manager now, and it works well, should I remove connection-maanger before I upgrade ? ?
[05:07] <evsophomore2009> i need help someone
[05:07] <level1> are there java 5+ SDKs in the ubuntu repos by now?
[05:08] <level1> evsophomore2009: you should ask wine questions in #wine... btw, amarok is a very nice alternative to iTunes
[05:08] <level1> sorry, #winehq
[05:08] <crxyem> level1 I'm showing java5 in my repositories on edgy
[05:08] <jriachi> amarok powa!
[05:08] <crxyem> but not the sdk
[05:09] <level1> crxyem: whats the difference between the jdk and the sdk?
[05:09] <level1> because there is the jdk
[05:09] <GrueTamer> jdk is java development kit, sdk means software development kit
[05:09] <crxyem> beat me to it
[05:10] <crxyem> amarok changed my life , I used to use winamp w/ albumlist plug-in, I can't imagine ever doing that again
[05:10] <level1> GrueTamer: i could guess that, whats the actually difference?
[05:10] <level1> crxyem: I love amarok to death, but I wish it could support very large playlists better... do you know any way to fix that?
[05:12] <crxyem> so any ideas about my Q above ??
[05:12] <level1> crxyem: might as well
[05:12] <ubuntu_> back again
[05:12] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: update?
[05:12] <level1> crxyem: but, on the otherhand, sometimes knetworkmanager is fussy
[05:13] <ubuntu_> can see it
[05:13] <level1> btw, kpowersave is a very nice app
[05:13] <crxyem> how large of  a playlist ??/
[05:13] <level1> man, some of the best software in the world is kde software, isn't it?
[05:13] <ubuntu_> But now that I turn on external driver I get no errors
[05:13] <level1> crxyem: like, 10,000+ songs
[05:14] <ubuntu_> I must of replace a file by accident
[05:14] <crxyem> hmm, largest playlist I've got is ~ 1000
[05:14] <Alonea> hey, are there IME's for Linux?
[05:14] <bonbonthejon> good that it works
[05:14] <crxyem> I'm using Mysql as the database works well
[05:14] <level1> crxyem: I was referring to my entire collection
[05:15] <ubuntu_> but now what?
[05:15] <level1> crxyem: should I take the time to convert to mysql?  I just reinstalled, so I don't have any "most played" data yet
[05:15] <ubuntu_> I got no problem reinstalling but I have some pics I would like to get
[05:15] <klap> Spanish
[05:15] <crxyem> I'd do it, I like that I can have multiple clients pull from the same database
[05:15] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: does it load?
[05:16] <klap> Spanish
[05:16] <klap> Espa;ol
[05:16] <bonbonthejon> !es | klap
[05:16] <ubotu> klap: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:16] <ubuntu_> no
[05:16] <klap> i love that BOT
[05:16] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: how far now? still mounting?
[05:16] <crxyem> also, my collection is at 21,000+ tracks and I really like the dynamic platlist feature, pretty good way to make use of all 21K songs randomly playing
[05:16] <ubuntu_> the same as before but with no errors
[05:17] <crxyem> I'm going to have to check out kpowersave
[05:17] <level1> crxyem: any clue how to get mysql working?  its quite a beast
[05:17] <Alonea> hey, are there IME's for Linux? Wanting japanese.
[05:17] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: can you hit ctrl-alt-f7 when its done loading. that should get you to X. otherwise ctrl-alt-f1 gets you to a console
[05:17] <level1> Alonea: oh, IME... right, you want scim
[05:18] <ubuntu_> but I can ctrl alt f1 at the black screen
[05:18] <level1> Alonea: sometimes its a little trouble, but its improuved a lot
[05:18] <Alonea> level1: what programs does it work with, or is it just web?
[05:18] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: does it bring up a login prompt?
[05:18] <ubuntu_> yes
[05:18] <level1> Alonea: It should work with anything that has a text box... anything
[05:19] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: ok, then log in and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg"
[05:19] <ubuntu_>  I have not try ctrl-alt-f7 yet
[05:19] <klobster> I had to do a reinstall, now konqueror seems to not render gmail properly?
[05:19] <Alonea> level1: sweet. and is it under adept?
[05:19] <crxyem> have you looked at powermanager vs kpowersave ??
[05:19] <ubuntu_> ok ill try it
[05:20] <level1> Alonea: yeah... you also have to install the relevant japanese support
[05:20] <crxyem> I used the install in adept and read some of the help from the kubuntu wiki
[05:20] <level1> Alonea: join me in finding an online tutorial... I will also install the software
[05:20] <Alonea> level1: ok. cool. thanks
[05:22] <Alonea> level1: alright. and I have no idea about the name for the japanese package. I might already have it. I think I asked for it on set up of ubuntu.../shrugs
[05:22] <level1> Alonea: the package is anthy
[05:22] <level1> http://www.h4.dion.ne.jp/~apricots/scim-anthy/howto.html  <- we can probably skip a few steps
[05:23] <foose12> how do i go from ubuntu to kubuntu
[05:23] <bonbonthejon> foose12: install kubuntu-desktop
[05:23] <urli> hola a todos
[05:23] <urli> hay alguna argentina
[05:24] <bonbonthejon> !es | urli
[05:24] <ubotu> urli: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:24] <foose12> bonbonthejon: is it in add/remove applications or onlin?
[05:24] <bonbonthejon> foose12: in add/remove applications
[05:24] <Alonea> level1: yeah, I am still installing the packages. I was looking at the Scim Wiki, Documentation
[05:25] <foose12> i don't see it :(
[05:25] <bonbonthejon> foose12: open a console and run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[05:26] <foose12> thank you
[05:26] <bonbonthejon> foose12: did that work?
[05:26] <foose12> its unpackaging now
[05:26] <bonbonthejon> foose12: good
[05:27] <foose12> yup, i just figured i be better off with kubuntu
[05:27] <bonbonthejon> foose12: if only everyone saw the light
[05:27] <bonbonthejon> :)
[05:27] <foose12> will i need to restart?
[05:27] <foose12> haha
[05:27] <bonbonthejon> foose12: I believe you will just logout, restart x, then log into kde
[05:28] <foose12> okedoke, im at 18 percent now
[05:29] <jriachi> hello
[05:29] <jriachi> anyone with gutsy? I'd like to confirm a bug
[05:29] <bonbonthejon> hi
[05:29] <bonbonthejon> jriachi: go into #ubuntu+1, Ill meet you there
[05:31] <ubuntu_> back once again
[05:32] <klap> spanish
[05:33] <klap> spanish
[05:33] <klap> Com on boot
[05:33] <klap> tell me !
[05:33] <klap> spanish spanish espa;ol
[05:33] <klap> whait.. whait.. hold on..
[05:33] <klap> spanish
[05:34] <foose12> !spanish
[05:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:34] <foose12> haha
[05:34] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: update?
[05:34] <klap> OO yes i love THAt BOT!
[05:34] <foose12> haha
[05:34] <foose12> just use the "!" sybol
[05:34] <ubuntu_> could not run command. It did nothing
[05:34] <klap> i can use
[05:34] <klap> !spanish
[05:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:34] <klap> Lol
[05:34] <klap> Great
[05:34] <klap> !spanish
[05:35] <klap> i love that shhit !  men
[05:35] <devnull> How do I get my cpuspeed to max ? Its set at 1000mhz right now and it should be 2000...
[05:35] <bonbonthejon> devnull: is it throttling?
[05:37] <devnull> bonbonthejon: yeah
[05:37] <bonbonthejon> devnull: it stays low until it needs the power
[05:38] <devnull> bonbonthejon: even so, I would like it to uh, not.
[05:38] <devnull> its a desktop.. I do not need cool and quiet
[05:38] <bonbonthejon> !throttling
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about throttling - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <bonbonthejon> devnull: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77497.html
[05:40] <beldayven> nite
[05:40] <bonbonthejon> night
[05:41] <ubuntu_> bonbonthejo-anything?
[05:41] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: whats it doing now?
[05:42] <ubuntu_> I have not try anything
[05:42] <ubuntu_> Gues I'm stuck reinstalling it
[05:42] <ubuntu_> How can I get some pictures out?
[05:42] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: it might be the easiest option. Maybe you can mount the drive and copy the pictures
[05:43] <ubuntu_> how do i do that?
[05:44] <bonbonthejon> ubuntu_: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=563007 tells how to mount a drive from live cd
[05:50] <klobster> why is konqueror rendering poorly now (after reinstall)
[05:54] <Jahooty> does k-feisty have any known issues with broadcom wireless devices in laptops?
[05:55] <klap_> !spanish
[05:55] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:56] <dr_willis> Jahooty,  may depend on the exact chipset.
[05:56] <dr_willis> my laptops broadcom card works.
[05:57] <Jahooty> ok, i found a forum topic on it, if that doesn't help i'll go gather info from the laptop
[05:57] <Jahooty> i really wish i just had time to run network cables up the walls
[05:57] <dr_willis>  I run mine through the duct work. :)
[05:58] <foose12> bonbonthejon: are u still there?
[05:58] <level1> does anyone know how to change the font for asian text ie Japanese?
[05:58] <bonbonthejon> foose12: yeah
[05:58] <jrattner> How do i change the default movie viewer in KDE
[05:58] <level1> jrattner: well, you kinda have to do it for each file type individually
[05:58] <Jahooty> i thought of that, but i don't want cables coming out of vents, i'll just buy some jacks and wall plates
[05:59] <Jahooty> add some resale value maybe
[05:59] <level1> jrattner: just right click on a file of the type
[05:59] <Jucato> jrattner: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Association
[05:59] <level1> or that
[05:59] <jrattner> Jucato, thanks
[05:59] <Evolution2> hello. i just got wine but i think i dont have the latest version because i would like to use it for utorrent and WMP 11. iam running kubuntu 7.04
[06:00] <foose12> bonbonthejon: it's taking forever to "set up kubunutu-desktop"
[06:00] <foose12> it loaded everything else
[06:01] <klobster> how do I get the mplayer plugin to work?  it freezes up in konq, and doesn't load in firefox...
[06:01] <bonbonthejon> foose12: there is a lot to install
[06:01] <raymond__> how do i reconfigure x11?
[06:02] <raymond__> i tried using nvidia-glx drivers and had to delete xorg.conf in order to get a GUI
[06:02] <bonbonthejon> raymond__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[06:03] <Evolution2> i just got wine but i think i dont have the latest version because i would like to use it for utorrent and WMP 11. iam running kubuntu 7.04
[06:03] <foose12> bonbonthejon: yup, it went through setting up all the extra programs kde comes with, but it's been about 20 min, didn't know if that was normal
[06:03] <foose12> 20 mins on the setting up kubuntu-desktop file
[06:04] <bonbonthejon> foose12: it had to download all the kde stuff, and has to set them up
[06:04] <bonbonthejon> foose12: hmm
[06:05] <AlfaScorpii> somebody like a mate?
[06:05] <foose12> i just didn't know if it was stuck, or if that's a normal amount of time
[06:05] <draik> General question... Does Linux make images differently than when in windows?
[06:06] <bonbonthejon> draik: cd image or picture image
[06:06] <draik> bonbonthejon: Picture Images. They were from a digital camera
[06:06] <AlfaScorpii> somebody like a mate guys?
[06:06] <AlfaScorpii> im drinking mate here
[06:07] <bonbonthejon> draik: a jpg is a jpg
[06:07] <draik> I had them on my xD card, then xfer'd them to my computer. I just put them on USB and took them to a photo processing station.
[06:07] <raymond__> how do i get the PCI bus identifier of something?
[06:07] <draik> bonbonthejon: That's what I thought, but the kiosk wouldn't read the darn thing. "Unknown media"
[06:08] <bonbonthejon> raymond
[06:08] <bonbonthejon> raymond__: lspci
[06:09] <draik> I took it to another place and had the same issue, but at least it read that there was 1 directory, but no images.
[06:09] <draik> I tried it again and then it read the 12 images on the USB drive
[06:09] <draik> Go figure
[06:23] <raymond__> i just installed the nvidia drivers and reconfigured X and now my fonts are huge. any reason why and how i can shrink them down like they were
[06:25] <intelikey> libmodplug* is depended on, but i can't find it...   ???
[06:25] <Ashex> !codec > me
[06:27] <abhijit_> hi i just wanted to know if it is possible to put a matrix screensaver on desktop as wallpaper.actually i have seen it in a youtube video
[06:29] <posingaspopular> abhijit_: what do you mean put a screensaver as wallpaper?
[06:29] <lO_osr> hi
[06:29] <lO_osr> ssup
[06:29] <lO_osr> ok
[06:29] <theotick> http://zmatrix.sourceforge.net/ is the one I used on my windows machine.. ofcourse you'd need to port it to linux
[06:30] <lO_osr> how can in digikam see ALL my pictures at once, my entire collection
[06:30] <lO_osr> and not folder by folder
[06:30] <jriachi> abhijit_: it is possible, but i think you cant put icons and a screensaver on the desktop at the same time :S
[06:30] <lO_osr> just like F-Spot, otherwise I will have to use F-Spot. Even possibly entirely to Gnome
[06:31] <abhijit_> i have seen such type of desktop in youtube video .l wondr how he did it
[06:31] <Dhraakellian> is there any way to get console debug information in amarok without recompiling it for onesself?
[06:32] <jriachi> abhijit_: kmatrix.kss --root (allowing programs to run in the destktop, from the desktop->rightclick)
[06:32] <Jahooty> ok, where do i find the chipset of my broadcom wireless device?
[06:33] <intelikey> Jahooty either lshw  or lspci     and you can pipe through | less       or use the gui tool   "device manager"
[06:34] <lO_osr> that's it, I am going back to F-Spot
[06:36] <foose12> !f-spot
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about f-spot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:37] <lO_osr> foose12: actually I was asking if it's possible to use Digikam like F-spot to have all the pictures instead of folder by folder
[06:39] <foose12> ah, i don't really have any idea
[06:40] <Jahooty> thanks
[06:40] <Jahooty> that did help
[06:41] <intelikey> !patience
[06:41] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:42] <PrabuMahaAnu> is ndiswrapper can use for printer driver?
[06:42] <intelikey> know i not.
[06:42] <PrabuMahaAnu> how about wine?
[06:43] <AscendedDaniel> usually the built-in support is pretty good... What printer are you trying to use?
[06:43] <AlfaScorpii> PrabuMahaAnu: no ty, dont drink at work
[06:43] <intelikey> printing via wine ????   that's a novel idea
[06:43] <PrabuMahaAnu> canon ip1000
[06:44] <PrabuMahaAnu> cups doesn't recognize my printer
[06:45] <intelikey> !printer
[06:45] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:45] <intelikey> sometimes that ^ helps
[06:46] <PrabuMahaAnu> ok, thx intelikey
[06:47] <foose12> i'm trying to "upgrade" from ubuntu to kubuntu, and i think the downloader is stuck
[06:47] <foose12> it went through and downloaded everything, then started to set everything up, but it's now stuck at "setting up kubutu-desktop"
[06:47] <intelikey> foose12 it's not an "upgrade" it's a package install.    neither would adding gnome be an upgrade
[06:48] <foose12> i know, i was kinda being sarcastic
[06:49] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | foose12 you can kill it and finish from the command line to see what happened. +
[06:49] <ubotu> foose12 you can kill it and finish from the command line to see what happened. +: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[06:49] <foose12> waht's adept
[06:49] <foose12> i dont think it crashed
[06:49] <foose12> ill try and kil it
[06:49] <n8k99> !adept
[06:49] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:50] <intelikey> hung pretty much = crash
[06:50] <Comrade-Sergei> what does the cannot talk to klauncher mean when i load a KDE program?
[06:50] <foose12> how do i kill it, "kill"
[06:50] <foose12> ?
[06:51] <intelikey> Comrade-Sergei umm means that gamin or gamserver or something is not running
[06:51] <Comrade-Sergei> how can i est
[06:51] <Comrade-Sergei> test
[06:51] <intelikey> foose12 the command is listed in that infonode from ubotu ^
[06:52] <intelikey> Comrade-Sergei i have see that error,  but it was normally because i did something like     rm -r /root ;ln -s /dev/null /root
[06:52] <Comrade-Sergei> im not nearly that advances
[06:52] <intelikey> if /root is not writable by kde/kdm you'll get that
[06:53] <Comrade-Sergei> i run  gnome though
[06:53] <Comrade-Sergei> just my kde apps do thaT
[06:53] <intelikey> still means it's looking for gamin       let me think
[06:54] <Comrade-Sergei> k
[06:54] <foose12> intelikey: i di the command u suggested, it asked me for my password, and i put it in.
[06:54] <level1> how do i start mysql once I have it installed?
[06:54] <foose12> wat was it supposed to do?
[06:55] <intelikey> Comrade-Sergei seems like there is an option in your gnome menu   system services   that will let you run kde services ?     not sure the name...
[06:55] <hakimin> hai
[06:55] <intelikey> foose12 sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ;sudo dpkg --configure -a    <<<<<<< that should finish the installation and if it has errors tell us.
[06:55] <kizsari> hi
[06:56] <murdo> ola
[06:56] <Comrade-Sergei> there is a services tab yes
[06:56] <level1> foose12: you mean mysql? I'm trying to set up an amarok mysql db... mysql seems to need to be started, which of course, isn't mentioned in any tutorial
[06:56] <intelikey> foose12 if you ran that and it didn't say some   "setting up packagename "   stuff  then it's probably finished already.
[06:56] <lO_osr> holygrail anyone? Passwordless login??!!
[06:57] <Comrade-Sergei> intelikey, i see no kde in there though
[06:57] <intelikey> foose12 the long and short of it is,  that command streightens out the package manager so you can go on about your normal business
[06:58] <foose12> intelikey: if it's finished, should i just restart?
[06:58] <intelikey> just logout.   no need to restart anything
[06:58] <foose12> ok
[06:58] <foose12> brb
[06:58] <Comrade-Sergei> intelikey, did you think of the problem?
[06:59] <level1> how do i start mysql once I have it installed?
[06:59] <intelikey> Comrade-Sergei yeah.  but i'm really not the goto guy on gui things.    i haven't started a gui on this box in over 10 days now.
[07:00] <Comrade-Sergei> level1, google it...
[07:00] <mneptok> level1: it's started for you
[07:00] <Comrade-Sergei> intelikey, omg how do you live?!?
[07:00] <Comrade-Sergei> intelikey, well i can do it with a console....
[07:00] <intelikey> how do you ?
[07:00] <level1> mneptok: apparently not
[07:01] <level1> Comrade-Sergei: apparently, thats too important to be put online
[07:01] <Comrade-Sergei> i like fancy buttons and window borders
[07:01] <intelikey> but anyway.    dcop  may be the answer you want
[07:01] <mneptok> level1: ps aux | grep sql
[07:01] <Comrade-Sergei> me intelikey
[07:01] <Comrade-Sergei> ?
[07:01] <intelikey> yeah
[07:01] <level1> mneptok: 1 entry: level1   19499  0.0  0.0   2880   772 pts/2    S+   00:01   0:00 grep sql
[07:01] <intelikey> grep  ^  :)
[07:02] <mneptok> level1: sudo invoke-rc.d mysqld
[07:02] <mneptok> (or is it mysql?) oops. O:)
[07:02] <level1> invoke-rc.d: syntax error: missing required parameter
[07:02] <mneptok> crap. phone.
[07:02] <level1> ?
[07:03] <AscendedDaniel> !beryl
[07:03] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:03] <level1> AscendedDaniel: they'll help a lot in #beryl and #opencompositing too
[07:03] <lO_osr> passwordless login anyone/anybody?
[07:03] <foose12> intelikey: well, i have alot of new programs now, how do i know if i have a kde desktop now
[07:04] <AscendedDaniel> thanks, I'm trying to get it set up... working with the howtos for now
[07:04] <level1> IO_osr: (why can't I type your name?) theres a place for that in system settings
[07:04] <level1> under advanced
[07:04] <Comrade-Sergei> intelikey, i reinstalled gamin think itll help?
[07:04] <intelikey> foose12 you can select it at login.
[07:04] <foose12> hmm...
[07:05] <intelikey> Comrade-Sergei maybe.     and sudo /etc/init.d/gam* restart      might reveal what's happening
[07:05] <level1> mneptok: did you mean sudo invoke-rc.d mysqld start?
[07:05] <intelikey> foose12 did you not check the menu at the login screen ?
[07:06] <intelikey> foose12 select session
[07:06] <foose12> no, i didn't
[07:07] <intelikey> :)
[07:07] <foose12> should i try to reinstall?
[07:07] <intelikey> why ?
[07:07] <foose12> i don't knw, im very confused
[07:07] <foose12> brb
[07:08] <intelikey> foose12 just select the session  "kde"  when you login.  you can even make it default from there
[07:08] <foose12> ok
[07:08] <AlfaScorpii> can i change my /home to an other partition with out louse the content?
[07:08] <intelikey> AlfaScorpii sure    if you know how
[07:08] <AlfaScorpii> intelikey: and the soft installed there?
[07:11] <intelikey> AlfaScorpii you simply format the partition in question  mount it some place like /media  copy your stuff there  set /etc/fstab to mount it on /home   ... and if you need the space delete everything in your home and restart/or umount it and mount -a logout/in
[07:12] <AlfaScorpii> intelikey: ty!
[07:12] <intelikey> AlfaScorpii only thing i didn't mention was the permissions bit.   when you mount the fs on /media you'll need to do something like  sudo chown `whoami` /media -R
[07:12] <AlfaScorpii> yep
[07:12] <foose12> intelikey: thanks, it works now, i wouldn't have found that by myself (i=n00b)
[07:12] <AlfaScorpii> ty
[07:12] <intelikey> then you can copy there.  else you wont have write perms and things get screwy
[07:13] <foose12> btw i like the kubuntu desktop look better :)
[07:13] <intelikey> foose12 np.
[07:13] <intelikey> *ey
[07:14] <AlfaScorpii> intelikey: like a mate?
[07:15] <lO_osr> !multimedia
[07:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[07:15] <foose12> !mate
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <tazz> how tricky would it be to run kde apps in gnome?
[07:16] <intelikey> yuch   After unpacking 144MB of additional disk space will be used.
[07:16] <AlfaScorpii> intelikey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_%28beverage%29
[07:16] <sparr> where does Quick Launcher get its program popularity data?  it doesnt seem to be the same place as K Menu
[07:16] <intelikey> tazz should be as simple as install and run
[07:16] <AlfaScorpii> foose12: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_%28beverage%29
[07:16] <sparr> tazz: not tricky at all.  with the appropriate libraries (which synaptic or adept will install automatically) it will Just Work
[07:17] <sparr> tazz: they will take a little longer to start, because the kde background stuff wont already be loaded
[07:17] <tazz> but wont it be messy?
[07:18] <sparr> not really
[07:20] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: HEY!
[07:20] <giampi> hello all
[07:20] <abattoir> hello MilhousePunkRock :)
[07:20] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Not on Jabber?
[07:20] <intelikey> tazz many people install gnome kde xfce4 and other desktop environments and their apps and  'mix & match'  to suit their taste
[07:20] <MilhousePunkRock> ~ntfs
[07:20] <icecruncher> how can I download , not install a package along with all it's dependacies?
[07:20] <MilhousePunkRock> !ntfs
[07:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:20] <intelikey> tazz it's common place in linux
[07:21] <giampi> guys i'm new to kubuntu for some reasons my firefox has transparent borders, how can i fix that? I mean i do not see the minimize etc..
[07:21] <lO_osr> !restrictions
[07:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restrictions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:21] <lO_osr> !restricted
[07:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:21] <tazz> cool....thanks
[07:21] <icecruncher> !botabuse | lO_osr
[07:21] <ubotu> lO_osr: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:23] <lO_osr> !flash
[07:23] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:24] <icecruncher> !adeptfix
[07:24] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:24] <intelikey> look at this KRAP! some idiot put "HOME=/root" in the fontconfig.postinst !   idiot.
[07:28] <lO_osr> can it be that I don't Flash is not available for me because I am running amd64 bit?
[07:28] <lO_osr> 2 SMP Thu Jun 7 19:00:28 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:28] <klobster> mplayer plugin not working for firefox or konq?
[07:29] <lO_osr> is frostwire available for 64 bit?
[07:29] <intelikey> !gnash
[07:29] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[07:31] <lO_osr> intelikey: can I watch youtube with Gnash?
[07:32] <intelikey> utube ?
[07:32] <intelikey> idk
[07:34] <lO_osr> !java
[07:34] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:37] <medtest> ne one out there?
[07:37] <medtest> ?
[07:37] <AlfaScorpii> medtest: ?
[07:38] <AlfaScorpii> @ping
[07:41] <khaije1> anybody up?
[07:42] <khaije1> I'm wondering how to troubleshoot/resolve a problem i have w/ 32-bit compatibility on amd64 ubuntu
[07:43] <Evolution2> how do i update to the latest version of wine
[07:44] <khaije1> !wine
[07:44] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:46] <ubuntu_> hello all
[07:48] <ubuntu_> hello all. I'm currently chatting from a live cd installer of Fiesty. I've tried both a kubuntu 7.04 and  ubuntu cd with the same problem. I've got a 500gig sataII drive. This is a rather new computer and my bios and the partition software for the ubuntu installer detects it as a 500 gig hard drive. But when i try to manually set my partitions through the installer it won't let me create one larger then 68607 MB in size anyone got any
[07:48] <ubuntu_> ideas?
[07:53] <intelikey> ubuntu_ anything on the drive ?
[07:53] <ubuntu_> nothing its a brand new drive
[07:53] <ubuntu_> i just installed gparted, and it has no problems with the drive
[07:54] <intelikey> ubuntu_ then it's problem solved ?
[07:54] <ubuntu_> well it is if i don't use the installer to partition :)
[07:54] <intelikey> a work around beets a no show...
[07:54] <ubuntu_> true
[07:55] <ubuntu_> btw, what is a good suggested swap size, for a 500 gig install?
[07:55] <ubuntu_> i was thinking 2gig
[07:55] <alakhia> !kernel
[07:55] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:56] <intelikey> ubuntu_ are you planning on syspending to disk ?   and how much ram do you have   the size of disk is not important unless you are cramped for space
[07:57] <fritz> i know this is offtopic
[07:57] <fritz> but i'm not getting mutch help
[07:57] <fritz> on tghe win channel
[07:57] <fritz> so can you help me ..cause i just installed windows
[07:57] <fritz> and it won't connect to the internet
[07:58] <fritz> i checked in control panel
[07:58] <ubuntu_> intelikey: nope this will just be a desktop system, its got 1 gig ram
[07:58] <fritz> and everything seems allright
[07:58] <Search4Lancer> I seem to not have any swap space anymore... how do I (re)create some?
[07:58] <fritz> ran cmd
[07:58] <fritz> and ran ipconfig
[07:58] <fritz> and it shows i'm receiving pakages
[07:58] <intelikey> ubuntu_ you can make a swap if you feel better with one.  but i wouldn't mess with swap
[07:58] <fritz> soo....ideas?
[07:58] <ubuntu_> thanks
[07:59] <ubuntu_> btw, does kubuntu remove all the gnome related libs etc from the install cd?
[07:59] <dthacker> argh,  dns 1, dthacker 0.  life sucks
[07:59] <ubuntu_> i would like to have both on this system
[07:59] <intelikey> swap files are cheep if needed
[07:59] <intelikey> ubuntu_ you can install gnome after install
[08:00] <ubuntu_> ok
[08:00] <ubuntu_> anyway thanks guys
[08:00] <ubuntu_> have a good day
[08:00] <intelikey> i would sujest the gnome meta package rather than the ubuntu-desktop package
[08:01] <intelikey> and i'm talking to myself again aren't i
[08:01] <intelikey> hmmm   pt_chown: needs to be installed setuid `root'
[08:01] <intelikey> Cannot chmod /dev/ttyp0 to 620 currently 666: Operation not permitted
[08:01] <dthacker> yes, but it's not a *bad* thing
[08:02] <intelikey> so i think i should    rm `which pt_chown`   and ln -s /bin/true pt_chown
[08:02] <Evolution2> what are the command to untar and install a .tar.bz2 package
[08:02] <dthacker> bunzip2 myfile
[08:03] <dthacker> then tar xvf myfile
[08:03] <intelikey> Evolution2 something like   tar -xf package.tar.bz2 && cd package/ && ./configure && make && sudo make install
[08:04] <dthacker> I was going to suggest the INSTALL and README files might need to be read....
[08:04] <jdt> does anybody know guarddog well? I have a question about traffic direction when using guarddog to setup iptables
[08:04] <intelikey> dthacker why make two steps out of the untar process ?
[08:04] <intelikey> tar does bz2/gzip/zip
[08:04] <dthacker> 'cos I'm braindead after fighting with DNS and I can't remember the other flag....
[08:05] <intelikey> -j but not needed
[08:05] <Evolution2> so its tar -xf filename?
[08:06] <intelikey> tar -xjvf blah.    but yes  tar -xf is all you need
[08:06] <intelikey> and even the dash is not mandatory
[08:06] <intelikey> imo it's good habit
[08:07] <Evolution2> it tell me it cannot open :(
[08:07] <intelikey> Evolution2 ls -l filename    and let us see
[08:07] <dthacker> does the error message specify a reason why it can't open?
[08:08] <Evolution2> cannot open: no such file or directory
[08:08] <intelikey> well there you go.
[08:08] <intelikey> use the correct path
[08:08] <Evolution2> its in my desktop
[08:08] <Evolution2> so ~/desktop/....
[08:08] <jdt> In guarddog, how do you define an any out rule, but maintain restriction on incomming traffic?
[08:09] <intelikey> and you are in your $HOME/  most likely
[08:09] <intelikey> so yes
[08:09] <intelikey> !guarddog
[08:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:10] <Evolution2> that untared
[08:10] <Evolution2> how does it install
[08:10] <binks> !ati
[08:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:11] <dthacker> Evolution2: now you should see a README or INSTALL or both.  Time to read them.
[08:11] <intelikey> !tarball
[08:11] <ubotu> Files with ".tar.gz", ".tar.bz2" or ".tgz" extensions are compressed archive formats, similar to ZIP files. See !tar for extracting them. Some of these files contain programs in source code form; see !compile for getting them to run.
[08:11] <dthacker> Evolution2: btw, what is this thing you are untarring?
[08:11] <intelikey> !b-e | Evolution2
[08:11] <ubotu> Evolution2: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:13] <Evolution2> wine-0.9.39
[08:14] <intelikey> !info wine
[08:14] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[08:15] <infokom2> yang terlalu sombong
[08:16] <intelikey> !tab
[08:16] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[08:16] <intelikey> linux is handy that way...
[08:17] <icecruncher> can anyone tell me how to install a buch of packages on a comp with no internet acces?
[08:18] <Selanit> icecruncher, download the appropriate .deb package someplace where you do have one, and then copy them over on a CD or thumb drive.
[08:19] <icecruncher> Selanit: yeah, but I have to manually got through the mirrors, it sucks
[08:19] <Selanit> icecruncher: yeah, it does.  I've done it a few times, mostly when I was trying to get assorted wi-fi cards to work.  You have my sympathies.
[08:20] <icecruncher> Selanit: for example i dont knwo where to find g++_4%3a4.1.2-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
[08:20] <navets> can anyone tell me a good php debugger
[08:21] <PrabuMahaAnu> zend studio
[08:22] <Selanit> icecruncher, http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/devel/g++-4.1
[08:22] <icecruncher> thnks
[08:22] <Selanit> packages.ubuntu.com should be your first stop for downloading .debs
[08:22] <icecruncher> or mirrors
[08:22] <Selanit> Right
[08:23] <drgonzo> hey all
[08:23] <drgonzo> to install gnome after installing kubuntu do apt-get install gnome?
[08:23] <icecruncher> i need build-essentials, is there a simple way to download it in one go, with all dependancies?
[08:23] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, klibido sucks.
[08:23] <icecruncher> drgonzo: sudo aptitue install ubuntu-desktop
[08:23] <Daisuke_Ido> icecruncher: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:24] <icecruncher> Daisuke_Ido: no I have it installed already, but I need these for a different comp
[08:24] <drgonzo> thanks
[08:24] <Daisuke_Ido> !aptoncd
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptoncd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[08:25] <Daisuke_Ido> if your apt-cache hasn't been cleaned (too much to ask), you can use apt-on-cd to put together a cd repo with it in there, otherwise, isn't it on the cd already?
[08:26] <icecruncher> Daisuke_Ido: it is on a cd live or alternate? if so, how do i acess it?
[08:26] <Daisuke_Ido> it should be on both
[08:26] <Daisuke_Ido> in adept or synaptic, there should be an option to add a repo from cd
[08:26] <icecruncher> how to install?
[08:26] <icecruncher> k
[08:28] <rathel> I need some help with Amarok, My playlists are not showing up, If I save a playlist with the same name it says that it already exists.
[08:31] <Daisuke_Ido> well duh
[08:31] <Daisuke_Ido> :)
[08:31] <Daisuke_Ido> same name = overwriting the file
[08:31] <rathel> Well.. duh, but that's not my problem.
[08:32] <Daisuke_Ido> they just aren't showing in playlist view.
[08:32] <Daisuke_Ido> that's a bit more perplexing :)
[08:32] <rathel> uh?
[08:32] <Daisuke_Ido> your playlists aren't showing up.
[08:32] <rathel> Yeah.
[08:32] <Daisuke_Ido> i assume you mean in the playlist panel on the left.
[08:32] <rathel> Correct.
[08:33] <Daisuke_Ido> alright
[08:33] <rathel> they where, before I reinstalled Kubuntu, dunno what happened.
[08:33] <Daisuke_Ido> i have absolutely NO clue what could be causing that, unless it's looking in some weird place it can't access for the playlists.
[08:34] <rathel> But, if I make a playlist with the same name, It asks to overwrite, and I say yes, it never shows up.
[08:39] <icecruncher> what's teh command to see all the active devices
[08:40] <Madara_Uchiha> Bonjour tout le monde
[08:40] <vzduch> mornin'
[08:42] <vzduch> I did a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg', and now I can't log into KDE anymore.. KDM says 'Login failed', but I can log into the console fine
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> someone highlight me please
[08:42] <vzduch> Admiral_Chicago:
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks you vzduch
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> thats an odd error.
[08:42] <rbrunhuber> vzduch: Did you select the right keyboard driver?
[08:43] <vzduch> I tried typing y and z the other way around, no luck
[08:43] <rbrunhuber> vzduch: try to type your password in the username field, just to see if it comes out correct
[08:47] <vzduch> rbrunhuber: ah, didn't think about that.. but I'm doing a full dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg just now :)
[08:48] <vzduch> but.. can someone do me a favour & google for the hfreq and vfreq values for a Samsung SyncMaster 913B? I didn't write those down :(
[08:48] <Admiral_Chicago> vzduch: sure
[08:49] <intelikey> is there a script i need to run after    hpkg -i libdvdcss*   ?
[08:50] <vzduch> why did you install via dpkg in the first place? libdvdcss2 is in the repos
[08:50] <intelikey> doesn't look like there was...
[08:50] <kraut> moin
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: its on the restricted formats wiki
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> !restricted
[08:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:54] <icecruncher> help, my cdrom drive won't work
[08:55] <icecruncher> this on a satellite pro, not the one I'm using right now
[08:55] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago what is ?   whether or not there is a script ???
[08:56] <icecruncher> I can't enable the drive bacause it isn't found in Disks & Filesystms
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> vzduch: Max Sync Rate (V x H): 75 Hz x 81 kHz
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: you have to run a script to get and install the library
[08:57] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago i already installed it...
[08:58] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[08:58] <vzduch> Admiral_Chicago: thx m8
[08:58] <vzduch> another thing.. why is it that kernel upgrade can only seem to be done via adept-manager? apt-get told me they were held back
[09:00] <vbgunz> I just plugged in a sony video camcorder that usually gets picked up automatically. for some reason it is not being picked up at all now... I booted the system without it attached, could this have something to do with it?
[09:01] <icecruncher> vzduch: I just pasted the names of the held back ones in to sudo apt-get install <names> it worked for me
[09:01] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago hehhe  i guess that was the script i was thinking of but i don't have any such thing and it wouldn't do any good if i did...  but i already installed libdvdcss2  so  moot point.
[09:01] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago thanks for the heads up on it tho.
[09:03] <intelikey> vzduch apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:03] <vzduch> intelikey: why dist-upgrade? pretty useless for a fresh Feisty install, /me thinks ;)
[09:04] <vzduch> anyway, I got the kernel upgraded, going to reboot
 another thing.. why is it that kernel upgrade can only seem to be done via adept-manager? apt-get told me they were held back <<<< that yelds this >>>> <intelikey> vzduch apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:05] <intelikey> useless you say ?  heh then don't complain about the kernel being held back.
[09:05] <PrabuMahaAnu> !kernel
[09:05] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:10] <downstairs> this is cool sorry for the main post just new to it all
[09:16] <fritz> my windows xp service pack 2 won't connect 2 the internet. a;though in control panel i checked and the connection is good, even ran a cmd ipconfig and got a network adress...so i'm quite puzzled why it doesen't connect
[09:16] <Jucato> fritz: this isn't really the place for that question...
[09:17] <fritz> i asked on the windows
[09:17] <fritz> support irc channel
[09:17] <fritz> and got no response
[09:17] <fritz> and i figured people here are better and could help me
[09:17] <Jucato> that doesn't make #kubuntu the correct place to ask.
[09:18] <Jucato> keep on trying and wait for an answer in ##windows or whatever channel
[09:18] <fritz> 8-|
[09:18] <fritz> k
[09:18] <intelikey> fritz better or not,  i don't do windows and wouldn't know how to help you with it.
[09:19] <rathel> Can anyone recomend any websites or books for getting started in shell scripting?
[09:19] <intelikey> !cli
[09:19] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:19] <ardchoille> rathel: http://www.cyberciti.biz/nixcraft/linux/docs/uniqlinuxfeatures/lsst/
[09:19] <intelikey> rathel nd   #bash
[09:20] <Jucato> rathel: some from here too http://www.tldp.org/guides.html
[09:20] <rathel> Okay, thanks will check those out.
[09:21] <intelikey> yeah tldp is your friend
[09:21] <rathel> Thank ya, bookmarking to check out tomorrow.
[09:22] <tmske> Is it ok to ask questions about ntfs-3g here, (I don't think it is a basic question) or is there a channel for it?
[09:37] <daftman> does anyone have problem running wine application that use directsound? my application crash if I choose alsa or oss
[09:38] <daftman> e.g if I don't select any sound drivers, GuildWars and Warcraft 3 run fine. with a sound driver, they both crash
[09:46] <AutoMatriX> Hi folks
[09:49] <[nige] > anyone having problems with knetworkmanger?
[09:49] <[nige] > it doesnt seem to send hostname properly
[09:50] <[nige] > !knetworkmanger
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knetworkmanger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <root> hi to all
[09:52] <[nige] > root, you shouldnt be root :P
[09:53] <root> somebody can tell me how "migrate"the user from red hat to ubuntu?
[09:58] <root> somebody can tell me how "migrate"the user from red hat to ubuntu?
[09:58] <eagles0513875> how do i fix a really slow internet connection
[09:59] <mat1980> eagles0513875: change provider ;) be more verbose
[10:01] <mat1980> root: what's the problem on migrating user form red hat to ubuntu?
[10:01] <biotrox> ones is rpm base
[10:01] <biotrox> kubuntu is debian base
[10:01] <biotrox> :P
[10:01] <biotrox> that's the problem
[10:01] <biotrox> yes
[10:01] <eagles0513875> !internet
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <root> i would know if it's only re-create the user on ubuntu, copy the directory from home and var/spool.. and the passwd file?
[10:02] <biotrox> what must i use xgl or aigxl for my riva tnt2
[10:02] <biotrox> ????
[10:03] <eagles0513875> biotrox: i think its xgl go into adept and type in nvidia
[10:03] <biotrox> so i cant use xgl for my riva tnt2
[10:03] <biotrox> can't or can..?
[10:04] <biotrox> !XGL
[10:04] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:04] <eagles0513875> !aiglx
[10:04] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[10:04] <eagles0513875> biotrox: seems like u have to use xgl
[10:05] <PrabuMahaAnu> !beryl
[10:05] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:05] <eagles0513875> !compiz
[10:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:06] <biotrox> if i use xgl
[10:07] <biotrox> than i can use beryl ..?
[10:07] <eagles0513875> not sure
[10:07] <biotrox> how to install xgl..?
[10:07] <eagles0513875> all u have to do is download the binary from the repository or from nvidias website
[10:08] <eagles0513875> and then type in sudo bash then the name of the binary
[10:08] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: for your speed up internet question http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6841.html
[10:08] <eagles0513875> ty ice.
[10:09] <Ubuntu-Craft> who?
[10:09] <eagles0513875> im just starting to wonder if its my isp's problem
[10:09] <eagles0513875> cucz up until this am it was working fine
[10:10] <eagles0513875> icecruncher: what i dont get is y all of a sudden my connection would slow tremendously
[10:11] <icecruncher> isp probably
[10:11] <eagles0513875> seems like its back to normal lol
[10:11] <eagles0513875> same guess i had
[10:12] <eagles0513875> goign to eamil that link to myself another useful thing for my simplified kubuntu how to's
[10:12] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:14] <Kprofthrea1> Hi all. I recently added a secondary slave IDE hdd and am trying to mount it. I successfully edited my fstab (it seems) and can now see it. But when I click on it to open the drive, it says "You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/hdd1
[10:14] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthrea1: you need to mount user=077 in the options
[10:14] <eagles0513875> i know it has to do with editing the permissions of the drive but not sure how lol
[10:14] <Admiral_Chicago> like user=0777,rw,sync
[10:14] <Admiral_Chicago> or whatever that is
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> might be rw
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> whatever
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthrea1: paste that line in the channel of your fstab to me
[10:15] <eagles0513875> isnt thatcommand chmod
[10:15] <Kprofthrea1> Admiral_Chicago: /dev/hdd1 	/media/hdd1 ntfs defaults 	0 	0
[10:16] <Admiral_Chicago> eagles0513875: thats for modifying ownership of files
[10:16] <eagles0513875> Kprofthrea1: u need to download ntfs-3g
[10:16] <eagles0513875> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[10:16] <Admiral_Chicago> not really
[10:16] <Kprofthreat> That's for writing to NTFS, ain't it?
[10:16] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: are you trying to write to your NTFS or just read?
[10:16] <Kprofthreat> I don't really need to do that.
[10:16] <Kprofthreat> Read
[10:17] <Admiral_Chicago> /dev/hdd1 / media/hdd1 ntfs user=0777,rw,sync 0 0
[10:17] <Admiral_Chicago> you may want to do vol_id /dev/hdd1
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> and change the /dev/hdd1 to UUID=whateverthevolidwas
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> much cleaner upgrades to new kernels
[10:18] <Kprofthreat> [mntent] : line 18 in /etc/fstab is bad
[10:19] <biotrox> !masturbate
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about masturbate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <Kprofthreat> ...
[10:19] <eagles0513875> !clean
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:19] <biotrox> !cum
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <MilhousePunkRock> !language
[10:20] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:20] <MilhousePunkRock> !ops
[10:20] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[10:20] <Kprofthreat> ..
[10:20] <Kprofthreat> !ops
[10:20] <Kprofthreat> Eh, already done.
[10:20] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: :)
[10:20] <Kprofthreat> Look, it's Hobbs
[10:20] <Kprofthreat> Anyway, [mntent] : line 18 in /etc/fstab is bad
[10:20] <Hobbsee> crazy loon...
[10:20] <Hobbsee> hiya MilhousePunkRock, Kprofthreat
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: pastebin your fstab
[10:22] <Kprofthreat> http://www.pastebin.ca/591551
[10:22] <Admiral_Chicago> Hobbsee: but that guy was soo last person was so cool..
[10:22] <Admiral_Chicago> Hobbsee: i meant to say "that last guy was cool, why did you kick him
[10:22] <Admiral_Chicago> damn my typing skills are bad at this time
[10:23] <Kprofthreat> Lol
[10:23] <Kprofthreat> He was typing sexual terms in factoid search
[10:23] <Admiral_Chicago> I know, i'm kidding Kprofthreat
[10:23] <Hobbsee> Admiral_Chicago: not if he couldnt be sensible.
[10:23] <Kprofthreat> I sense trouble again
[10:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: okay, i made a mistake
[10:26] <Admiral_Chicago> you are supposed to use umask=0777 iirc
[10:26] <Admiral_Chicago> !umask
[10:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umask - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <Kprofthreat> !info umask
[10:26] <ubotu> Package umask does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[10:26] <Kprofthreat> Eh
[10:27] <Kprofthreat> That's funny in a way
[10:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: from the looks of it, isn't the mount /media/sda1 what you want?
[10:27] <Kprofthreat> No, that's my main partition
[10:27] <Kprofthreat> Er, main drive
[10:27] <Kprofthreat> My sata
[10:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: that is also ntfs and readable?
[10:27] <Kprofthreat> Yes, it is.
[10:28] <Admiral_Chicago> okay. do this...
[10:29] <Admiral_Chicago> wha is the uuid of this command: "sudo vol_id /dev/hdd1"
[10:30] <Kprofthreat> 6460861C6085F558
[10:30] <Admiral_Chicago> http://www.pastebin.ca/591562
[10:31] <Kprofthreat> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[10:31] <Kprofthreat> [mntent] : line 18 in /etc/fstab is bad
add <enter> at the end
[10:32] <Admiral_Chicago> what command are you running
[10:33] <Kprofthreat> sudo mount -a
 or echo >> /etc/fstab
[10:33] <Kprofthreat> Got no error msg that time
[10:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Can someone sum up the differences between ext2 and ext3 in a few sentences?
[10:33] <Admiral_Chicago> !fstab
[10:33] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:33] <Kprofthreat> Ext 2, slower, Ext 3 faster
[10:34] <eagles0513875> rnt they in the works of making an ext4 fs
[10:34] <Kprofthreat> Most people don't use ext2 file systems anymore.
[10:34] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: cool, check the files now
[10:34] <eagles0513875> !ext4
[10:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <Kprofthreat> I still get the error message
[10:34] <Kprofthreat> Oddly enough
[10:34] <Kprofthreat> I could try rebooting
[10:34] <eagles0513875> Kprofthreat: wait
[10:34] <zorglu_> !upgrade
[10:34] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[10:34] <insmod> <Milhousnd then ext3 -- nopeePunkRock> ext2 is non journal wich means it need to be fixed and defragged now a
[10:34] <eagles0513875> have u shutdown ur windows partition incorrectly
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: rebooting won't help
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: give me a sec
[10:35] <Kprofthreat> No. This drive just has files, not Windows
[10:35] <eagles0513875> if u have ur goign to need to run chkdsk on ur windows partition then once that is done boot into it once and see if that helps at all
[10:35] <eagles0513875> ahhhh ok
[10:35] <addyk> Hello! kubuntu:)
[10:36] <addyk> eagles0513875: Does ext4 exist?
[10:36] <eagles0513875> Kprofthreat: do u plan on whiping that partition and reformating it with one that linux will understand
[10:36] <insmod> MilhousePunkRock,  ext2 is non journal wich means it need to be fixed and defragged now and ext3 no
[10:36] <Kprofthreat> Yes
[10:36] <Kprofthreat> How'd ya guess
[10:36] <Kprofthreat> =P
[10:36] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:37] <eagles0513875> i think they r developing one addyk
[10:37] <Admiral_Chicago> try http://www.pastebin.ca/591578
[10:37] <Kprofthreat> I actually plan on putting Gentoo on it
[10:37] <addyk> OK thanks eagles0513875 :)
[10:37] <eagles0513875> Kprofthreat: then i would try ntfs-3g
[10:37] <eagles0513875> addyk let me look up something
[10:37] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: also, the UUID needs the dashes, did you remove them?
[10:37] <addyk> OK.
[10:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Kprofthreat: Good luck with that... make sure you read the handbook properly!
[10:37] <eagles0513875> addykhttp://www.bullopensource.org/ext4/
[10:38] <eagles0513875> addyk: http://www.bullopensource.org/ext4/
[10:38] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:38] <eagles0513875> !kernel
[10:38] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:38] <Kprofthreat> Oh, it does?
[10:38] <addyk> OK :)
[10:38] <Kprofthreat> Ok then, I'll have to readd
[10:38] <addyk> Huh? Firefox doesn't come with kubuntu?
[10:39] <ardchoille> No
[10:39] <eagles0513875> sudo apt-get install firefox addyk
[10:39] <Kprofthreat> MilhousePunkRock: I actually heard the install is a lot easier now. I plan to do a stage 3 since the others aren't supported anymore
[10:40] <eagles0513875> addyk the thing wiht kubuntu is that it allows u to install stuff u use or need not a whole lot of other junk that is what makes it a vry user friendly and vry customizable linux distro
[10:40] <addyk> I know  I know... :D eagles0513875 I'm using kubuntu installation CD now...
[10:40] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:40] <eagles0513875> oh
[10:40] <eagles0513875> u new to kubuntu addyk
[10:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Kprofthreat: I installed my gentoo before 2007.0, possibly it's easier now. In general, gentoo is rather for the advanced user... And I think you should go through the pain of manually setting it up...
[10:40] <addyk> And I wanted to install and use firefox too :D
[10:40] <Kprofthreat> Just cause you did, eh?
[10:41] <Kprofthreat> Lol
[10:41] <addyk> Kinda... :) I had it once ... forgot it didn't have firefox :)
[10:41] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:41] <Kprofthreat> Lol, that's what initially caught my eye
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> addyk: That's "sudo apt-get install firefox" on a shell
[10:41] <zorglu_> somebody has to debug khtml
[10:41] <Kprofthreat> Oh, and Admiral_Chicago, no dashes in the UUID to begin w/
[10:41] <eagles0513875> ya that is on shell forgot to tell u that
[10:41] <Ubuntu-Craft> ;)
[10:42] <addyk> I've just upgraded my PC and wanted to test the composite thingie .... the one with transparency :)
[10:42] <eagles0513875> lol with a name like that Ubuntu-Craft im guessing u play WoW
[10:42] <eagles0513875> u mean this one
[10:42] <addyk> I figured MilhousePunkRock :) Thanks :D
[10:42] <eagles0513875> !beryl | addyk
[10:42] <ubotu> addyk: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:43] <Kprofthreat> Lol, WoW...what a joke.
[10:43] <eagles0513875> u mean that one addyk
[10:43] <eagles0513875> whats is a joke about it
[10:43] <addyk> OOOOOK YAHOO :)
[10:43] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:43] <Kprofthreat> Well, there's an equal chance he plays SC
[10:43] <Kprofthreat> After all..SC2 =] 
[10:43] <addyk> I knew only about kde composite...
[10:43] <eagles0513875> addyk i have something that will help u set that up
[10:43] <addyk> it was something in the kde control panel
[10:43] <eagles0513875> addyk before i forget what kinda video card do u have
[10:43] <addyk> dcc send it pls :D
[10:44] <addyk> i915
[10:44] <eagles0513875> intel
[10:44] <addyk> Yup :)
[10:44] <eagles0513875> type this in the shell glxinfo
[10:44] <eagles0513875> and then scroll all the way to the top and look at direct rendering
[10:44] <addyk> OK... w8 a sec
[10:44] <Admiral_Chicago> okay Kprofthreat
[10:44] <eagles0513875> k
[10:45] <Kprofthreat> Admiral, there were no dashes in the UUID
[10:45] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: did you apply my changes/
[10:45] <Admiral_Chicago> did that work
[10:45] <addyk> I have direct rendering :) direct rendering: yes
[10:46] <Kprofthreat> The latest pastebin?
[10:46] <Kprofthreat> Yeah
[10:46] <addyk> eagles0513875: Yes :)
[10:46] <MANU_> ..
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: so it works?
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> sweet
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm off to bed
[10:47] <eagles0513875> direct rendering is enabled then addyk
[10:47] <eagles0513875> that is good
[10:47] <eagles0513875> makes things a whole lot easier
[10:47] <eagles0513875> once u have kubuntu installed let me know
[10:47] <Kprofthreat> The fstab works, but the drive still doesn't open.
[10:47] <Kprofthreat> There were no dashes in my UUID
[10:47] <Kprofthreat> =/
[10:47] <Admiral_Chicago> crap.
[10:48] <eagles0513875> and ur not on the live cd
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> Kprofthreat: can you ping me about this in the morning, its close to 4am here
[10:48] <addyk> I'm on the instalation CD no?
[10:48] <eagles0513875> Admiral_Chicago: if he tries ntfs-3g he could pull the files then he can reformat the partition woudl that work
[10:48] <Kprofthreat> If I'm up
[10:48] <eagles0513875> u rnt goign to install it
[10:49] <eagles0513875> Kprofthreat: try the ntfs-3g pkg and see if that helps
[10:49] <Kprofthreat> Ok
[10:49] <Kprofthreat> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g right?
[10:49] <eagles0513875> rnt u wanting to pull the files from that partition onto this partition so taht u can reformat it
[10:49] <eagles0513875> yep
[10:49] <eagles0513875> then once that is installed let me know
[10:50] <Kprofthreat> Yeah
[10:50] <eagles0513875> then ntfs-3g is ur best bet
[10:50] <eagles0513875> cuz u want read write access so taht way u dont have to copy and paste stuff u just drag the stuff off of that partition
[10:51] <Kprofthreat> Setting up ntfs-3g (1.328-1) ...
[10:51] <Kprofthreat> Setting ntfs-3g suid root with group fuse...done
[10:51] <Kprofthreat> Users from 'fuse' group can now mount NTFS volume.
[10:52] <eagles0513875> then wait before doign that
[10:52] <eagles0513875> open up the fstab
[10:52] <eagles0513875> and where it says ntfs add the -3g at the end
[10:52] <eagles0513875> umount it then mount it again
[10:52] <eagles0513875> did that make any sense lol
[10:53] <Kprofthreat> We'll see in a few secs
[10:53] <eagles0513875> ok
[10:53] <Kprofthreat> Still no
[10:53] <Kprofthreat> I COULD go into my Windows partition
[10:53] <eagles0513875> did u add the 3g in the fstab
[10:53] <Kprofthreat> Yes
[10:53] <Kprofthreat> And then rip it onto Windows
[10:53] <eagles0513875> did u sudo into it
[10:54] <Kprofthreat> And go through Linux
[10:54] <Kprofthreat> Yes
[10:54] <eagles0513875> ok
[10:54] <Kprofthreat> In fact, I think I probably will do that.
[10:54] <Kprofthreat> Save me a headache
[10:54] <eagles0513875> did u sudo umount /dev/name of drive
[10:54] <eagles0513875> sda1 or hda1 for ex
[10:55] <Kprofthreat> Yes
[10:55] <eagles0513875> then try mount it
[10:55] <Kprofthreat> I already did. It still gives me that error
[10:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Kprofthreat: What error?
[10:55] <eagles0513875> ok then in the shell type in fsck /dev/name of partition
[10:56] <Kprofthreat> fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[10:56] <Kprofthreat> fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
[10:56] <Kprofthreat> fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/hdd1
[10:58] <Kprofthreat> Well, while I appreciate the help, I'm going to see if I can get this system thingy to work.
[10:58] <Kprofthreat> I'll just do the workaround
[10:58] <Kprofthreat> Much less hassle
[10:58] <Kprofthreat> But thx anyway for the efforts
[11:01] <tacklebox> Question: I just installed Kubuntu (using the desktop installer cd). The only problem is that whenever I try to actually boot the OS, it freezes up and the monitor goes to standby. Also, the scroll lock and caps lock keys start flashing on and off. Anyone know of a way to fix this?
[11:04] <tacklebox> I'll take that as a "No"...
[11:05] <Hobbsee> ***anyone interested in testing some kubuntu tribe 2 candidate gutsy cds please private message me****
[11:07] <addyk> is edgy old?
[11:07] <fritz> GOING MAD HERE!!!..ANY1 help me with my internet connection with windows?
[11:07] <addyk> windows???
[11:07] <fritz> ups
[11:07] <yeniklasor> Do you know any program to select an area of the screen then zoom (fullscreen) it ?
[11:07] <fritz> sorry
[11:07] <fritz> wrong channel:)
[11:08] <addyk> fritz: are you connecting with a local area network?
[11:08] <fritz> yea
[11:08] <eagles0513875> addyk its the last release
[11:08] <eagles0513875> feisty is the latest
[11:08] <addyk> OK... but it's not ready yet? eagles0513875
[11:09] <eagles0513875> installing
[11:09] <ardchoille> yeniklasor: kmagnifier can magnify part of the screen and let you specify how much magnification
[11:09] <eagles0513875> what u mean addyk
[11:09] <addyk> fritz: then it means it should connect automatically unless you have to set IPs
[11:09] <eagles0513875> hobsee i just pmed ya
[11:09] <fritz> dunno what's wrong with it
[11:09] <fritz> when i look in control panel
[11:09] <fritz> everything seems ok
[11:09] <fritz> i run a ipconfig
[11:10] <addyk> OK... eagles0513875 I wanted to know where is edgy situated... you said it's the last release?
[11:10] <fritz> and get a network adress
[11:10] <yeniklasor> ardchoille : thanks
[11:10] <fritz> try to ping..doesen't work
[11:10] <fritz> ...
[11:10] <fritz> :((
[11:10] <ardchoille> yeniklasor: kmag is part of kdeutils
[11:10] <ubuntu__> hi guys
[11:10] <ubuntu__> i need help
[11:10] <eagles0513875> its the relaease before feisty
[11:10] <addyk> Hmm... ipconfig is something you need to do? fritz I mean...
[11:10] <eagles0513875> feisty came out back in april
[11:10] <ubuntu__> i have installed kubuntu but i cant boot without cd
[11:10] <addyk> OK :)
[11:10] <addyk> Thanks eagles0513875
[11:11] <ubuntu__> i have windows mandriva in sata drive and now kubuntu in ide drive
[11:11] <ubuntu__> but i cant boot into kubuntu without cd
[11:11] <addyk> fritz: I mean... when I ran windows I didn't have to do anything...
[11:11] <ubuntu__> how can i make a triple boot menu with grub_
[11:12] <tacklebox> ubuntu__, I have the same problem; don't think anyone here knows how to fix it.
[11:12] <zorglu_> ok adept is doing coredump when i try to upgrade to feisty, what should i do ?
[11:12] <ubuntu__> so how do u boot-
[11:12] <ubuntu__> do u use always a cd_
[11:12] <tacklebox> I just installed it about an hour ago.
[11:12] <tacklebox> So, yeah.
[11:13] <tacklebox> Does your's freeze up whenever you try to boot normally?
[11:13] <ubuntu__> nope
[11:13] <eagles0513875> ubuntu__: what u mean all u have to do is install the 3rd os
[11:14] <eagles0513875> and it automatically adds it to grub
[11:14] <ubuntu__> nope
[11:14] <ubuntu__> it didnt
[11:16] <astan> hm. when i insert an SD card the first time, everything works fine and i'm asked by KDE what i want to do.. but the second time, nothing happens.. anyone know why?
[11:18] <astan> dmesg seems quiet when i insert it the second time..
[11:24] <astan> ah. nevermind, it was just a glitch in the micro-SD->SD converter i have..
[11:27] <eagles0513875> anyone else testing out gutsy tribe 2
[11:27] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[11:27] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:29] <fritz> can you offer a little help with
[11:29] <fritz> setting up a theme?
[11:30] <eagles0513875> !theme
[11:30] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[11:30] <eagles0513875> !changethemes
[11:30] <ubotu> To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[11:30] <eagles0513875> can anyone tell me where the repositories list is saved
[11:30] <Jucato>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:30] <eagles0513875> ty
[11:30] <eagles0513875> how do i back up the list
[11:31] <Jucato> sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.backup
[11:31] <astan> hm. i'm looking at a directory in konq and would like previews (like the first frame of video), i've increased the max size for previews in konq settings, and i'm in icon view.. but still no previews.. just icons for "video"..
[11:31] <eagles0513875> ty
[11:31] <fritz> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/NuoveXT+Theme?content=60895
[11:31] <fritz> i want to install that theme
[11:32] <fritz> and there are instructions
[11:32] <fritz> but they're not qute good...
[11:32] <Jucato> !changethemes | fritz
[11:32] <ubotu> fritz: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[11:32] <Jucato> fritz: the last link ^^^
[11:33] <Jucato> astan: "Video thumbnails in Konqueror -- install libarts1-xine. You can turn this functionality on and off through Konqueror's menu View->Preview->Video files."
[11:34] <eagles0513875> mornign jucato
[11:35] <Jucato> good afternoon to you, too
[11:35] <astan> Jucato: thanks a bunch, works great!
[11:35] <Jucato> ok
[11:35] <addyk> eagles0513875: I have finished installing...
[11:36] <addyk> How do I set beryl?
[11:36] <t1g3r> hey all
[11:36] <jussi01> hmmm, can i burn the install cd iso to a dvd with no probs?
[11:36] <eagles0513875> have u restarted ur comp
[11:36] <addyk> hey t1g3r
[11:36] <eagles0513875> jussi01: use k3b
[11:36] <eagles0513875> hey t1g3r
[11:36] <addyk> Well after installing yeah :)
[11:36] <eagles0513875> ok
[11:36] <t1g3r> any idea how to install the libdvdcss2  package in kubuntu? thing is i dont have a conection on there so i downloaded the package from the webpages
[11:37] <eagles0513875> addyk is ur name registered
[11:37] <t1g3r> sudo apt-get tries to get it from online
[11:37] <Jucato> !libdvdcss2
[11:37] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:37] <t1g3r> i just wanna install it like u do in windows
[11:37] <addyk> Yes eagles0513875
[11:37] <eagles0513875> may i pm
[11:37] <jussi01> t1g3r:  is it a deb?
[11:37] <t1g3r> sure
[11:37] <addyk> Yes :)
[11:37] <t1g3r> um i downladed the deb and the tar as well
[11:37] <Jucato> !deb
[11:37] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[11:37] <t1g3r> ah sweet
[11:37] <eagles0513875> addyk u need to /msg the nick serv and identify urself
[11:37] <addyk> I did that :)
[11:38] <eagles0513875> u did i just sent u pm
[11:38] <astan> hm. when i do the "safe removal" thing with my SD card, i get a warning that the operation was successful, but that the media could not be ejected.. that is pretty obvious since it's an SD card pushed into my built-in reader.. anyone know how i can get rid of that warning message?
[11:38] <eagles0513875> ahhh my fault
[11:38] <t1g3r> thanks folks ill bbl
[11:38] <addyk> -NickServ- You have already identified
[11:38] <addyk> A OK :D
[11:39] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: me too
[11:39] <eagles0513875> ?
[11:40] <eagles0513875> what ice u want help installing beryl
[11:40] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: sorry lol no, as in testing
[11:41] <eagles0513875> u have to talk to hobbsee she hooked me up but she isnt on dude
[11:41] <eagles0513875> im goign to be helping test the 64bit version of gutsy
[11:41] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: hooked up already
[11:41] <eagles0513875> u r
[11:42] <icecruncher> alternate for pc
[11:42] <eagles0513875> kool
[11:42] <eagles0513875> desktop for amd64
[11:43] <eagles0513875> lol i have to say even though i am not taking fully advantage of the 64bit capabilites i love the performance gain u get with a 64bit os
[11:43] <icecruncher> haha, wish i had a 64
[11:44] <eagles0513875> i have one here in my laptop and also in my desktop
[11:49] <eagles0513875> how do i add an icon to the k menu
[11:49] <eagles0513875> nm i got it
[11:56] <Jucato> !away > Indice
[12:00] <zorglu_> q. is there some way to disable a 'service' ? i would like to stop lighttpd to start when i boot the computer
[12:00] <eagles0513875> guys take a look at this
[12:00] <eagles0513875> http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[12:01] <eagles0513875> reverse engineered broadcom wifi driver lol
[12:01] <velo|gfx> hiho!
[12:01] <eagles0513875> going to give it to hobsee and she will forward it hopefully to be added to the gutsy release
[12:01] <velo|gfx> question: is there a possibility to update 6.06 to 7.04 from a dvd?
[12:01] <eagles0513875> ya
[12:01] <eagles0513875> wait
[12:01] <eagles0513875> not that i know of
[12:02] <eagles0513875> the only way to do that would be to add the feisty repositories and delete the repositories of the version u currently have
[12:02] <eagles0513875> then do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:03] <eagles0513875> velo|gfx: did that make any sense
[12:03] <velo|gfx> problem is ive installed 6.06 and do have a wireless card with broadcom chipset... well and it doesnt work
[12:03] <velo|gfx> so= no internet / no update
[12:05] <velo|gfx> i thought that it is possible to update it form dvd
[12:05] <zorglu_> velo|gfx: i think there is a way to update from cd
[12:05] <velo|gfx> how?
[12:05] <zorglu_> velo|gfx: let me find a page
[12:05] <velo|gfx> THX!
[12:06] <sweettooth> hey guys, i have moved from xp to kubuntu and so far it has been really great
[12:06] <zorglu_> velo|gfx: i dont find it... but i have seen this
[12:06] <sweettooth> but i am wondering if there is any kinda software like the yahoo widgets i can use in Kubuntu?
[12:07] <velo|gfx> mhhhh :(
[12:07] <Hoyt> is it possible to resize partitions with feisty partitioning tool?
[12:07] <ardchoille> sweettooth: Is that anything like superkaramba?
[12:07] <zorglu_> velo|gfx: stick around
[12:08] <sweettooth> ardchoille, arha, that looks nice
[12:09] <sweettooth> i heard kde is gonna port dashboard (from Mac) to linux, wonder if that is true?
[12:09] <ardchoille> sweettooth: If you use it, have a look at http://www.kde-look.org for tons of karamba themes
[12:09] <zorglu_> velo|gfx: ok this is around the tool apt-cdrom
[12:10] <velo|gfx> mhm
[12:10] <velo|gfx> apt-cdrom
[12:10] <sweettooth> ardchoille, that's cool, cheers m8
[12:11] <ardchoille> :)
[12:11] <zorglu_> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn-2.html#comment-3001 <- velo|gfx look at this
[12:11] <zorglu_> velo|gfx: then google a lot, you are on your own :)
[12:11] <velo|gfx> th!
[12:11] <Maxdamantus> Anyone compiled XChat on Kubuntu before?
[12:12] <Maxdamantus> Doesn't like my GLib.
[12:12] <eagles0513875> !fluxbox
[12:12] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[12:12] <ardchoille> Maxdamantus: Do you really need to compile? xchat is in the repos.
[12:12] <Maxdamantus> I do need to compile if I want to modify the source. :P
[12:12] <ardchoille> Ok
[12:13] <Maxdamantus> First it complained about the glib that aptitude installed for me.
[12:13] <Maxdamantus> Then I manually installed the latest version, and it doesn't like having both.
[12:13] <Jucato> uh oh....
[12:14] <Jucato> !info glib
[12:14] <ubotu> Package glib does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:14] <zorglu_> !info glib2
[12:14] <ubotu> Package glib2 does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:14] <zorglu_> hue
[12:14] <Jucato> try not to mess with libc/glibc packages...
[12:14] <Maxdamantus> glibc-2.5.0-0exp1    glibc-2.5.0-0exp2    glibc-doc            glibc-doc-reference  glibc-pic            glib-java
[12:14] <Maxdamantus> :d
[12:14] <zorglu_> !info libglib2.0-0
[12:15] <ubotu> libglib2.0-0: The GLib library of C routines. In component main, is optional. Version 2.12.11-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 509 kB, installed size 1104 kB
[12:15] <zorglu_> there! :)
[12:15] <Jucato> heh :)
[12:16] <Maxdamantus> Hmm.. When I try removing that, it asks me if I want to remove.. Pretty much everything.
[12:16] <Maxdamantus> No, not quite everything.
[12:16] <Maxdamantus> Just about 100 lines or so.
[12:16] <Maxdamantus> 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 436 to remove and 44 not upgraded.
[12:16] <Maxdamantus> Need to get 0B/2105kB of archives.
[12:16] <Maxdamantus> After unpacking 2011MB disk space will be freed.
[12:16] <Jucato> what I was afraid of...
[12:17] <Maxdamantus> [root@maxdamantus (/download/xchat-2.8.2)] $ pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0
[12:17] <Maxdamantus> 2.12.9
[12:17] <Maxdamantus> ^^ That's what XChat doesn't like.
[12:17] <sweettooth> !dvdrip
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdrip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <Maxdamantus> Because that outputs 2.12.9, while it's actually 2.12.11
[12:17] <sweettooth> !info dvdrip
[12:17] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.4-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1083 kB, installed size 2572 kB
[12:18] <Jucato> Maxdamantus: try asking in #ubuntu maybe someone there would know better (given xchat isn't a KDE app...)
[12:18] <Maxdamantus> I'd think that maybe it wouldn't be so much of a problem in Ubuntu.
[12:18] <Maxdamantus> Since Ubuntu is GNOME, which is GTK based.
[12:19] <Jucato> but you are trying to compile something not in the repository, and it's complaining about a package version from the repository, so that would still be a problem
[12:21] <velo|gfx> ho
[12:22] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[12:22] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:24] <icecruncher> how can i virtualize an iso?
[12:25] <icecruncher> as in make the computer think a cd is in, you know virtual drive
[12:25] <sonoftheclayr> icecruncher: like mount an iso?
[12:25] <icecruncher> yes
[12:25] <Maxdamantus> icecruncher, what's the point of pretending it's a device?
[12:25] <icecruncher> in win, you call it virtual drive
[12:25] <Maxdamantus> mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /path/to/mount
[12:26] <icecruncher> thnks
[12:26] <Maxdamantus> I think.
[12:27] <eagles0513875> does anyone in here work for canonical
[12:27] <icecruncher> nd to make them is how?
[12:27] <Maxdamantus> Make what?
[12:27] <icecruncher> iso
[12:27] <Maxdamantus> Hmm..
[12:27] <Maxdamantus> I believe you can use k3m
[12:27] <eagles0513875> cant u make isos in k3b
[12:27] <Maxdamantus> k3b I mean
[12:27] <velo|gfx> no solution found with the allotted time.try harder [y/n]  <- whats that??
[12:27] <icecruncher> ah
[12:27] <Jucato> !iso | icecruncher
[12:27] <ubotu> icecruncher: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:28] <tacklebox> Hmm, is there a way to change the resolution before booting?
[12:28] <tacklebox> Screen res, that is.
[12:28] <icecruncher> thnks Jucato :)
[12:28] <tacklebox> As there is with the bootable disc.
[12:28] <Maxdamantus> tacklebox, if the monitor in peripherals doesn't change the default.
[12:28] <Maxdamantus> You can edit /etc/xorg/xorg.conf
[12:28] <velo|gfx> somebody know what that is?:no solution found with the allotted time.try harder [y/n] 
[12:28] <Maxdamantus> Or whatever the file's called.
[12:29] <tacklebox> Well see, I'm having problems booting from the installation.
[12:29] <tacklebox> And am currently booted from cd.
[12:29] <tacklebox> In order even to boot from cd, I have to change the resolution from VGA to my monitor's native resolution.
[12:30] <tacklebox> So I'd have to change it at from the boot menu, yes?
[12:30] <Maxdamantus> Do you mean screen resolution as in:
[12:30] <crdlb> !away > jsk-away
[12:30] <Maxdamantus> 1024x768, 1280x1024, etc?
[12:30] <tacklebox> Yes
[12:30] <Maxdamantus> So you're on the LiveCD atm?
[12:30] <tacklebox> Yes
[12:31] <Maxdamantus> "sudo -s" in a terminal.
[12:31] <Maxdamantus> Then mount the root fs of your install.
[12:31] <tacklebox> How do I go about doing that?
[12:31] <Maxdamantus> Then from inside the fs you mounted, nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:31] <Maxdamantus> Hmm.. How many partitions do you have?
[12:32] <tacklebox> Several
[12:32] <Maxdamantus> Do you know which one contains the Kubuntu install?
[12:32] <tacklebox> One is Windows, one is for swap, and one for the install
[12:32] <eagles0513875> max cant he check using fdisk -l
[12:32] <tacklebox> I can find out the exact name with the partition program, yeah?
[12:32] <eagles0513875> tackle i think in shell u can use fdisk -l to check
[12:33] <Maxdamantus> Yea, just use fdisk -l
[12:33] <tacklebox> Yeah, that works.
[12:33] <Maxdamantus> The correct one will probably have a star on it.
[12:33] <Maxdamantus> Like:
[12:33] <Maxdamantus> /dev/sda1   *           1        8993    72236241   83  Linux
[12:33] <tacklebox> Hmm
[12:33] <Maxdamantus> Then "mkdir /mnt/tmp"
[12:33] <tacklebox> My one with a star is my Windows install, is that okay?
[12:33] <Maxdamantus> And then, fine out the device name of the drive (/dev/sd**)
[12:33] <tacklebox> Presumably since I installed it first
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> Nope.
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> Look for the one that says Linux
[12:34] <tacklebox> Yeah, I know that.
[12:34] <tacklebox> But it's okay that it doesn't have the star
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> Yea, shouldn't matter if you have it set up right.
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> It's the screen res you're having trouble with right? Not the booting of the kernel itself.
[12:35] <tacklebox> Well, the kernel itself won't boot
[12:35] <tacklebox> But I'm guessing it's due to the screen res
[12:35] <tacklebox> Since I can't boot from cd without first changing the screen res
[12:35] <Maxdamantus> What happens when you try loading it?
[12:35] <tacklebox> It freezes up and the monitor goes to standby
[12:36] <Maxdamantus> Hmm..
[12:36] <Maxdamantus> Tried ctrl + alt + f1?
[12:38] <zul_> alop
[12:41] <ubuntu_> hi
[12:42] <ports-> what program can i use to fix partition tables in kubuntu?
[12:42] <ardchoille> !qtparted
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qtparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:42] <ardchoille> !partition
[12:42] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:42] <ports-> right now i have 4 partitions on hdd0... its a 300 gb drive... and they total 430gb.
[12:43] <ports-> lol well qtparted failed... it crashed when trying to read the disks
[12:47] <ardchoille> IT crashed?
[12:47] <ardchoille> I've never seen an app crash on *buntu
[12:51] <ports-> lol
[12:51] <ports-> well when it closes itself.. id call that a crash
[12:58] <ardchoille> ports-: Run it from a term and see if there's any error output.
[12:58] <fritz> please give me the webpage
[12:58] <fritz> for customizing kde again
[12:58] <fritz> :)
[12:58] <ports-> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[12:58] <ports->   Major opcode:  144
[12:58] <ports->   Minor opcode:  3
[12:58] <ports->   Resource id:  0x0
[12:58] <ports-> Failed to open device
[12:59] <ardchoille> fritz: http://www.kde-look.org  ?
[12:59] <ports-> oh joy... qtparted has no ntfs support
[12:59] <ardchoille> ports-: that has nothing to do with qtparted. that error is because xorg is trying to initialse wacom devices that you don't have. you can fix that easily by commenting out the wacom stuff in xorg.conf
[01:00] <ardchoille> ports-: Ah, ok.. well, I have never used ntfs, so I don't know.
[01:01] <ports-> ardchoille:  where do i edit xorg.conf
[01:02] <ports-> ardchoille: hdd1 is a sata 300gb.. i had 3 partitions. 100gb, 100gb, 80gb..
[01:02] <BlueDevil> while music is playing in amarok (using xine with alsa output) other programs can't output sound
[01:02] <BlueDevil> how can i "fix" it?
[01:02] <ports-> ardchoille:  i ran a dual boot of vista and xp.... and i tossed in a xp cd to format the xp off last night.... and it deleted my partition tables.
[01:03] <ardchoille> ports-: Yes, winblows doesn't play well with other OS's.
[01:03] <ports-> ive never had it wipe my partition tables
[01:04] <ports-> so now im trying to recover the 2nd 100gb partition... because it has a lot of my stuff for school which i really need
[01:04] <ardchoille> ports-: If you can pastebin your xorg.conf, I'll show you what to comment out to get rid of the baddevice error
[01:05] <ports-> http://rafb.net/p/VbY8Vo26.html
[01:06] <ardchoille> ports-: Comment out lines 138, 139 and 140 in that paste.. then restart x and the errors should disappear.
[01:07] <ports-> what do i comment with?  #
[01:07] <ardchoille> yes
[01:08] <ports-> Error: Invalid partition table - recursive partition on /dev/sda.
[01:08] <ports-> A bug has been detected in GNU Parted.  Refer to the web site of parted http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html for more informations of what could be useful for bug submitting!  Please email a bug report to bug-parted@gnu.org containing at least the version (1.6.25.1) and the following message:  Assertion (disk != NULL) at ../../libparted/disk.c:1074 in function ped_disk_next_partition() failed.
[01:08] <ports-> No Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.
[01:08] <ports-> Segmentation fault
[01:09] <eagles0513875> ports what u tryign to do wiht ur ntfs partition
[01:13] <ubuntu_> Ugh, back.
[01:13] <tacklebox> *
[01:16] <logixoul> Hi. Is there a way to exchange the channels for the left and the right speaker, systemwide?
[01:18] <eagles0513875> what u mean log
[01:18] <eagles0513875> logixoul: check in the mixer dude
[01:18] <eagles0513875> at the bottom there is one
[01:19] <logixoul> eagles0513875: hm, no. KMix doesn't seem to have the option.
[01:19] <logixoul> there *is* a slider at the bottom, but it's for balance
[01:20] <logixoul> what I want is: sent the signal for the left speaker to the right one and vice versa
[01:20] <eagles0513875> hummmm
[01:21] <eagles0513875> have u taken a look in sound system in the system setting
[01:22] <logixoul> eagles0513875: yes, it isn't there either :(
[01:22] <eagles0513875> :( i dunno waht to tell u dude
[01:22] <cathal> anyone know how to transfer mp3's from kbuntu to my iriver, iv tryed ifpgui but cant get it to pick up my iriver
[01:22] <eagles0513875> cathal: have u tried in amarok
[01:22] <eagles0513875> wait r u using feisty or edgy
[01:23] <eagles0513875> how did u do that
[01:23] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:23] <eagles0513875> im using feisty x86_64
[01:23] <logixoul> how did I do what? :)
[01:24] <eagles0513875> where it says ur name in green then what ur using
[01:24] <logixoul> heh
[01:24] <eagles0513875> how did u do that lol
[01:24] <logixoul> you just write "/me is a skinny bastard"
[01:24] <logixoul> it's recognized by your client as an action
[01:24] <logixoul> :p
[01:26] <eagles0513875> log i know they have kde4 pkgs in the repository
[01:26] <ardchoille> *sich , time to drag out my ignore list
[01:26] <eagles0513875> whoe u ignoring ard
[01:27] <logixoul> "drag out"? :)
[01:27] <eagles0513875> in honesty log i think they r skipping kde 3.5 and goign stright to 4 in gutsy
[01:27] <eagles0513875> ill let u know once i do a dist upgrade to the test release
[01:27] <ardchoille> no, kde4 won't be default in gutsy
[01:27] <eagles0513875> kde 3.5 then
[01:27] <logixoul> eagles0513875: nope, 3.5.7/8 will be in gutsy - it's stable and proven, unlike 4.0
[01:27] <logixoul> 4 will be optional
[01:28] <ardchoille> I think gutsy will have kde 3.5 and the repos will have packages so you can install 4.0 side-by-side
[01:28] <eagles0513875> ahhh ok
[01:28] <dasnipa`> eagles0513875: i doubt kde4 will be ready in time for gutsy
[01:28] <eagles0513875> lol u never know
[01:28] <dasnipa`> nah itll be in beta at best
[01:28] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:28] <eagles0513875> j/w how many of u guys have a laptop with a broadcom wireless card in it
[01:28] <logixoul> dasnipa`: Gutsy is released 5 days before KDE 4.0.
[01:28] <dasnipa`> which might make the release as logixoul as an optional pack
[01:29] <eagles0513875> ouch
[01:29] <dasnipa`> logixoul: ouch. that is unfortunate
[01:29] <logixoul> dasnipa`: which means the final version of KDE 4.0 will be included on the installation media
[01:29] <eagles0513875> isnt that schedule tenative cuz for feisty they said +- 5 days
[01:29] <logixoul> (since there's always a 1-week period left for packaging)
[01:29] <dasnipa`> logixoul: nice.
[01:29] <logixoul> yep.
[01:29] <eagles0513875> what u guys think about this guys http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices reverse engineered broadcom linux driver since they refuse to release any linux drivers
[01:29] <dasnipa`> KDE4 sounds sweet everything ive heard
[01:30] <eagles0513875> same here
[01:30] <logixoul> of course ;)
[01:30] <eagles0513875> i honestly hope when they release gutsy they will have that reverse engineered wifi driver included in it
[01:30] <logixoul> eagles0513875: isn't this what the GPL violation fiasco was about?
[01:30] <blizzzek> what is device sr0 or sr1 usually?
[01:30] <dasnipa`> doubt it
[01:30] <eagles0513875> i dunno
[01:30] <eagles0513875> broadcom hasnt said anything yet bout it
[01:31] <logixoul> blizzzek: hmm, the serial ports maybe?
[01:31] <dasnipa`> eagles0513875: IF broadcom comments that they dont mind... then maybe
[01:31] <blizzzek> logixoul: that would be an explanation
[01:32] <eagles0513875> basically what they did from what i have read
[01:32] <icecruncher> hi
[01:32] <logixoul> blizzzek: ah, no. google says "SATA and new PATA optical drives".
[01:32] <eagles0513875> is they took the driver for windows apart and then rewrote it in c
[01:32] <blizzzek> logixoul: thx... thats kinda weird
[01:32] <logixoul> right
[01:33] <blizzzek> logixoul: i have no such devices but there are i/o errors in dmesg
[01:33] <eagles0513875> is rewriting a driver in a different language still in violation of the gpl
[01:33] <logixoul> dunno
[01:33] <logixoul> blizzzek: ^
[01:33] <logixoul> eagles0513875: no, unless it's based on reverse engineered knowledge...
[01:33] <blizzzek> i should not look at this
[01:34] <eagles0513875> what do u mean
[01:34] <dominion> hello I just installed kubuntu.. and can't get my screen to display the correct resolution
[01:34] <logixoul> eagles0513875: reverse engineering a proprietary driver is generally illegal
[01:35] <eagles0513875> ok
[01:35] <dominion> can someone help?
[01:35] <eagles0513875> just ask ur question dominion
[01:35] <logixoul> dominion: kcontrol->peripherals->monitor
[01:35] <logixoul> eagles0513875: he did
[01:35] <dominion> I have a nvidia 7600GT and a dell2405fpw (which wasn't detected)
[01:36] <eagles0513875> so u dont have anything showing up on ur screen
[01:36] <dominion> the monitor isn't on the list either
[01:36] <dominion> It's running at 1024*768
[01:36] <eagles0513875> didu order ur dell machine with kubuntu
[01:36] <logixoul> dominion: then ask in #xorg for directions as to editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually
[01:36] <dominion> no.. it's my home built PC
[01:36] <eagles0513875> is this the feisty release
[01:36] <dominion> yes feisty AMD64
[01:37] <alvyn> dominion: type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg at terminal
[01:37] <dominion> ok... lemme try
[01:37] <alvyn> after that restart X server
[01:37] <dominion> log out and in right to restart X server?
[01:38] <dominion> do I select Vesa?
[01:38] <eagles0513875> or u hit ctrl+shit+alt and backspace u can do it that way too to restart x
[01:38] <eagles0513875> logixoul: this is technically what they did
[01:38] <eagles0513875> http://bcm-specs.sipsolutions.net/ReverseEngineeringProcess
[01:38] <dominion> I will select VESA
[01:39] <logixoul> eagles0513875: yes, that is one of the reasons it was so controversial.
[01:39] <dominion> Oh... there is NV maybe I should select that?
[01:39] <logixoul> yes.
[01:39] <eagles0513875> how come then the site hasent gone down and if u look on the first link i showed u they r still developing new stuff
[01:39] <eagles0513875> Kprofthreat: was it u that had trouble getting stuff off ur ntfs partition
[01:39] <logixoul> eagles0513875: they haven't been prosecuted, apparently.
[01:40] <Kprofthreat> eagles0513875: Yes. I fixed it now.
[01:40] <logixoul> dominion: nv is the unaccelerated FOSS driver, nvidia is the accelerated official closed driver
[01:40] <Kprofthreat> eagles0513875: I tried getting an early start on Gentoo, but it crashed on me. >=[
[01:40] <Kprofthreat> So, now I go away for about 12 hours
[01:40] <eagles0513875> honestly i think broadcom doesnt care i think they r glad that someone is developing a linux driver cuz i saw that there was a partition that was goign round trying to petition them but they didnt want to do anything
[01:40] <logixoul> probably.
[01:41] <dominion> I have to specify amount of kB of memory. it has 256mb. so will I go with 256*1024?
[01:41] <eagles0513875> these companies that dont support linux or dont provide good support really piss me off
[01:42] <eagles0513875> leavethe card as is dude
[01:42] <logixoul> dominion: yes, I think so
[01:42] <eagles0513875> u dont need to shar any ram with it
[01:43] <dominion> Ok
[01:43] <eagles0513875> do u think if i submit that to someone at canonical they would release it with gutsy
[01:43] <dominion> use kernel frame buffer?
[01:43] <logixoul> dominion: I think you should answer 'no' here.
[01:44] <dominion> ok. going with no
[01:44] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[01:44] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:44] <t1g3r> !eclipse
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <t1g3r> i love your bot :D
[01:44] <lousygarua> i've recently installed kdebase and sometimes apps like firefox or gnome-system-monitor just won't work.. why's that?? is it my old computer?
[01:45] <logixoul> lousygarua: "won't work"?
[01:45] <eagles0513875> no
[01:45] <dasnipa`> t1g3r: 'your' bot is pretty generic... its the bot that is owned/maintained by ubuntu admins its on all the official chans
[01:45] <eagles0513875> gnome system montior wont work cuz kubuntu is kde based
[01:45] <logixoul> eagles0513875: that doesn't make sense you know.
[01:45] <lousygarua> logixoul: i live my computer for the night, and when i get back adn try to launch firefox it just does its funny bouncing icon and then won't start, withotu any errors or anything.. weird
[01:46] <logixoul> lousygarua: try launching firefox from a terminal, see if it outputs any messages
[01:46] <dasnipa`> eagles0513875: there are many things wrong with what you said
[01:46] <ardchoille> lousygarua: How did you install firefox?
[01:46] <eagles0513875> ill shut up
[01:46] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:46] <logixoul> eagles0513875: how old are you?
[01:46] <eagles0513875> 20
[01:47] <logixoul> k
[01:47] <dasnipa`> kubuntu isnt 'kde based' and just because an app is designed to integrate with KDE, or gnome doesnt make it exclusive to that WM
[01:47] <lousygarua> ardchoille: it came with ubuntu, which is the original distro i installed.. i'll try to debug it abit later
[01:47] <eagles0513875> lol im going through a tough patch atm and im just doing alot of thinking bout that and i have to admit im still quite a noob when it comes to linux but ever since i got on kubuntu ive learned tons
[01:48] <dominion> It worked... thanks everyone... I now have native resolution on my LCD :D
[01:48] <logixoul> dasnipa`: well, kubuntu's admin tools are built on KDE tech, and the default apps are KDE ones, so it can be said Kubuntu is 'kde based' actually.
[01:48] <logixoul> dominion: nice ;)
[01:49] <dominion> now to try and get compiz fusion going. Any recommendations for a how to guide suited for Nvida hardware?
[01:49] <ardchoille> kubuntu is ubuntu-based and uses kde as its default desktop.
[01:49] <icecruncher> !iso
[01:49] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[01:49] <eagles0513875> !nvidia
[01:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:49] <dasnipa`> logixoul: well... thats still not quite the way to put it... because that implies that hierarchically kubuntu would have to be an abstraction of the WM, where the wm is clearly higher level than an OS level
[01:49] <icecruncher> how can I make an ISO? from a bunch of folders?
[01:50] <eagles0513875> icecruncher: use k3b
[01:50] <logixoul> ardchoille: which is the same as "kubuntu is kde-based and uses ubuntu as its technological foundation" ;)
[01:50] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: not burning onto a cd, it wont work
[01:50] <ardchoille> logixoul: No, it's not the same. You're confusing the underlying distro with the desktop environment.
[01:50] <logixoul> ok, fair enough.
[01:51] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: I don't want to burn it, just make it, then moung it
[01:51] <dasnipa`> hardware < bootstrap < kernal < OS < window manage < gui apps
[01:51] <eagles0513875> have u tried looking in apt and search for iso
[01:51] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: no
[01:51] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: well, now it is. lol
[01:52] <ardchoille>  hardware < bootstrap < kernal < OS < desktop environment/window manage < gui apps  kde is not a wm, it's a desktop environment, kde uses kwin as its wm.
[01:52] <eagles0513875> try that or u can do apt-cache iso in shell
[01:52] <dasnipa`> ardchoille: true... i missed that stuf
[01:52] <dasnipa`> step*
[01:52] <ardchoille> I know lots of people who install kubuntu but don't use any kde apps.
[01:53] <dominion> where is the restricted device manager ?
[01:53] <eagles0513875> wow i have so many pkgs to upgrade lol
[01:53] <ardchoille> dominion: I think that is a gtk2 app (gnome desktop)
[01:53] <eagles0513875> just so i can test gutsy
[01:53] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: it's Kiso
[01:53] <crdlb> dominion, on ubuntu :/
[01:54] <eagles0513875> ok hope it works for ya icecruncher
[01:54] <dasnipa`> eagles0513875: id recommend virtualizing gutsy instead of upgrading on your main box
[01:54] <eagles0513875> i dont have anything on here i need
[01:54] <eagles0513875> all my music i have is on my windows partition
[01:54] <rajkalyan> hey eaglses
[01:54] <eagles0513875> sup rajkalyan
[01:55] <rajkalyan> i need help
[01:55] <dominion> Ok.. I'm just trying to follow the guide on installing the nvidia binary driver (so I can compiz fusion). what's the kubuntu alternative way?
[01:55] <eagles0513875> whats wrong raj
[01:55] <dasnipa`> okay. have at it... im just saying... a nice way of doing it is with virtualization if you were to want to not risk crashing your system
[01:55] <rajkalyan> my pc ceashing
[01:55] <rajkalyan> crashes a lot
[01:55] <eagles0513875> dasnipa`: ive done it so many times lol im used to it
[01:55] <eagles0513875> how does it crash
[01:55] <eagles0513875> adn what r u doing when it crashes
[01:55] <rajkalyan> it just stop
[01:55] <rajkalyan> s
[01:55] <rajkalyan> and shuts dowj
[01:55] <rajkalyan> n
[01:56] <eagles0513875> its a laptop right
[01:56] <rajkalyan> yes
[01:56] <rajkalyan> kubuntu
[01:56] <rajkalyan> edgy
[01:56] <dasnipa`> rajkalyan: sounds like a heat problem did you do anything to your processor? and are its fans running?
[01:56] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Good call
[01:56] <rajkalyan> yes
[01:56] <eagles0513875> make sure ur laptop is getting enough cooling
[01:56] <rajkalyan> Nothing with the processor
[01:56] <rajkalyan> ok
[01:56] <eagles0513875> and if its not then get a cooling pad
[01:56] <rajkalyan> it i
[01:56] <rajkalyan> s
[01:57] <eagles0513875> then r the fans running
[01:57] <rajkalyan> theyre expensive
[01:57] <rajkalyan> yes
[01:57] <eagles0513875> both fans if u have 2 one for intake one for exhaust
[01:57] <dasnipa`> rajkalyan: it runs fine right? and shuts down with no warnings?
[01:57] <rajkalyan> yes both
[01:57] <rajkalyan> yes
[01:57] <rajkalyan> i cant rebot though
[01:57] <rajkalyan> reboot
[01:57] <dasnipa`> yeah thats gotta be heat...
[01:57] <rajkalyan> oh
[01:57] <rajkalyan> my intake is on the side
[01:58] <rajkalyan> next to me power adapter'
[01:58] <eagles0513875> there r also fans on the underside of it too
[01:58] <rajkalyan> really
[01:58] <rajkalyan> o yeah
[01:58] <dasnipa`> heh
[01:58] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:58] <dasnipa`> yeah those are kinda important
[01:58] <rajkalyan> the outake is in the bsck
[01:58] <eagles0513875> if those rnt getting enough air ur going to need to get a cooling pad
[01:58] <rajkalyan> my laps on a desk
[01:58] <eagles0513875> i have bout 2 outtakes
[01:58] <rajkalyan> me too
[01:58] <rajkalyan> brbr
[01:58] <rajkalyan> i gott aeat
[01:58] <eagles0513875> is it raised and the fans underneath getting enough air
[02:00] <eagles0513875> i think for me the thing that generates the most heat is my monitor since its a bright screen
[02:01] <rockets> If I do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade its not going to put me in gutsy alpha right
[02:02] <eagles0513875> nope
[02:02] <eagles0513875> cuz u dont have the repositories in ur source lsit
[02:02] <eagles0513875> what version r u upgrading from
[02:02] <eagles0513875> and also all it will do is upgrade any pkgs that need to be upgraded
[02:02] <eagles0513875> just like typing upgrade as well
[02:02] <ardchoille> rockets: No, not until you put gutsy sources in your sources.list.
[02:02] <rockets> i have feisty already. its just that if you do regular apt-get upgrade it wont install kernel upgrades, etc
[02:02] <rockets> its a fresh kubuntu install
[02:03] <eagles0513875> ok
[02:03] <rockets> I could use adept updater
[02:03] <rockets> but honestly
[02:03] <rockets> adept sucks
[02:03] <eagles0513875> i always use dist-upgrade cuz it gets all the upgradeable pkgs
[02:03] <eagles0513875> lol
[02:03] <eagles0513875> not only kernel updates but all the others too so that is how i upgrade mine
[02:03] <rockets> but once gutsy is out wont dist-upgrade get you gutsy?
[02:03] <eagles0513875> no
[02:03] <eagles0513875> like was said before u would have to add the gutsy repositories
[02:03] <rockets> I thought it would . . .
[02:04] <eagles0513875> to ur source list
[02:04] <rockets> hmm.
[02:04] <rockets> ok
[02:04] <eagles0513875> wait
[02:04] <eagles0513875> i could be wrong am i right though that once gutsy is released anyone that it wont upgrade the pkgs unless u add the repositories
[02:04] <Hobbsee> hiya eagles0513875
[02:04] <rockets> Well whatever, its ok
[02:04] <Hobbsee> eagles0513875: you're correct
[02:05] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Right, you have to add the repos for an apt-get upgrade to upgrade to the next release. otherwise it just updates the kernel.
[02:05] <rockets> I typically upgrade to the next release the day it comes out anyway
[02:05] <eagles0513875> book mark this then rockets
[02:05] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[02:05] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:05] <rockets> eagles0513875: i already use sourceomatic
[02:05] <eagles0513875> lol ok
[02:05] <rockets> anyway I don't upgrade literally
[02:05] <rockets> i do a fresh install off cd
[02:06] <rockets> Upgrading via apt to the next release version makes me paranoid their will be junk left on my system. Bad habit left over from windows upgrade installs I guess.
[02:06] <rockets> Windows upgrade installs always left TONS of junk on your system from the last OS version
[02:06] <ardchoille> rockets: Me too, and I have master scripts that update and tweak everything.. requires me to be in front of the computer for a total of about 10 minutes when I do a fresh install.
[02:07] <rockets> hmm
[02:07] <rockets> yeah i should really write a script to make all the changes I ALWAYS spend 45 minutes making after each install
[02:07] <rockets> like ndiswrapper for example
[02:07] <rockets> and concurrency = shell
[02:07] <rockets> etc
[02:07] <rockets> I did just "upgrade" to kubuntu though
[02:08] <rockets> I've been using regular Ubuntu for a long time and thought I'd give kubuntu a chance.
[02:08] <ardchoille> rockets: Like installing apps, tweaking xorg/fstab/etc, defining themes/wallpapers/icons. all that stuff.
[02:08] <rockets> For whatever reason, it feels faster to me
[02:08] <rajkalyan> how do you install icons
[02:09] <ardchoille> rajkalyan: Unpack an icon theme into ~/.icons (for a single user) or into /usr/share/icons (system wide install)
[02:10] <rockets> I don't get why kubuntu doesnt have a shortcut to kcontrol anywhere though
[02:10] <rockets> btw whats the Kubuntu equivalent of gksu
[02:10] <Hoyt> kdesu
[02:10] <rockets> ty Hoyt
[02:11] <ardchoille> rockets: You can add a menu item for kcontrol
[02:11] <rockets> I need to find a good KDE theme too. I like the overall look of the system but not the theme/colors themselves
[02:12] <ardchoille> rockets: http://www.kde-look.org
[02:12] <ardchoille> That should keep you busy ;)
[02:12] <rockets> ardchoille: is there an equivalent of alacarte for Kubuntu?
[02:12] <ardchoille> rockets: kmenuedit
[02:12] <addyk> pm eagles0513875
[02:12] <addyk> :)
[02:12] <rockets> ardchoille: somehow i knew it was going to be called kmenuedit
[02:13] <rockets> and now i feel dumb
[02:13] <ardchoille> rockets: Or, right click the kmenu button and choose from the list
[02:13] <zorglu_> root      9968  1.8 16.4 881136 74240 ?        Ss   11:23   3:05 python /tmp/kde-root/adept_managerXz43Ka.tmp-extract/dist-upgrade.py --frontend DistUpgradeViewKDE <- moauoauoua scripting language are nice :) 800mbyte of virtual and 72mbyte of resident
[02:16] <rockets> Great, KDE's power manager thinks my battery is "not present"
[02:16] <rockets> it *IS* present
[02:17] <eagles0513875> lol
[02:17] <DjDarkman> Hy I`m having problems setting up my laptops DVD Writer mountig, can someome help me with this?
[02:17] <eagles0513875> werent there some issues when feisty came out
[02:17] <icecruncher> I love making driver modules
[02:18] <icecruncher> DjDarkman: same here with a satalite pro
[02:19] <DjDarkman> I just want to make it just mount when I put in a CD and unmount when I eject, nothing extra
[02:19] <icecruncher> DjDarkman: mine won't even read the cd lol
[02:19] <icecruncher> DjDarkman: idk, sorry
[02:19] <DjDarkman> neighter mine...but I can write with it
[02:23] <icecruncher> DjDarkman: wierd
[02:24] <velo|gfx> somebody experienced with broadcom wlan controllers?
[02:24] <DjDarkman> man I just can`t figure out why this doesn`t want to work, on my other PC it works fine
[02:24] <hilary> (pokes eagles0513875) =)
[02:24] <DjDarkman> velo|gfx: what type?
[02:24] <velo|gfx> and kubuntu 7.04 ?
[02:24] <velo|gfx> BCM4306
[02:24] <DjDarkman> velo|gfx: wait a bit
[02:24] <velo|gfx> 802.11 b/g
[02:24] <eagles0513875> hey hilary
[02:24] <eagles0513875> velo i got a hookup for ya
[02:24] <hilary> hey =) you ok?
[02:24] <eagles0513875> http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[02:24] <velo|gfx> he found it but i cant use it
[02:24] <eagles0513875> i have that same card
[02:25] <eagles0513875> y cant u
[02:25] <velo|gfx> eagles0513875 : and does it work?
[02:25] <eagles0513875> i havent set it up yet
[02:25] <eagles0513875> and where i am doesnt have wireless to test it
[02:25] <eagles0513875> not bad hilary is msn messenger workign now
[02:25] <hilary> nope! :(
[02:26] <daquino>  why is adept_installer so slow
[02:26] <eagles0513875> can u shoot me a pm hil plz
[02:26] <hilary> ok
[02:26] <DjDarkman> hmmm can`t find it
[02:26] <DjDarkman> but I have it saved on my harddirve
[02:26] <ardchoille> hilary: You know you can use kopete to connect with msn messenging, right?
[02:27] <rockets> God I love medibuntu
[02:27] <eagles0513875> ard she was trying that the other day it wasnt working for her
[02:27] <eagles0513875> !register | hilary
[02:27] <ubotu> hilary: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:27] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Ah, ok.
[02:27] <DjDarkman> velo|gfx: you here?
[02:27] <DjDarkman> velo|gfx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177&highlight=Wireless+BCM4318+AirForce+Card  this howto worked for me
[02:27] <eagles0513875> ard only thing i can think of is pidgin
[02:28] <ardchoille> eagles0513875 , hilary: Well, I use kopete to talk with my friends who use msn messenger.
[02:28] <velo|gfx> thy DjDarkman!
[02:28] <eagles0513875> for some reason those she kept getting an error msg
[02:28] <ardchoille> I use it for Yahoo, AOL, msn, icq
[02:28] <eagles0513875> i use pidgin which is gaim replacement and it does the same thing
[02:28] <hilary> I'm struggling to register here =S lolz give me a sec
[02:29] <eagles0513875> ok lol
[02:29] <DjDarkman> velo|gfx: np, hope it workes for you too, if you don`t understand something you can ask me, btw use the windows driver you got with your card
[02:29] <ardchoille> hilary: /msg nickserv help register
[02:34] <zorglu_> q. i just upgraded to feisty and now i got a 'line' in the middle of each button, a kind of coloring which make the button lower part darker than the upper part. i know it is possible to remove it by configuration because i already done it in edgy. my issue is i dont remember the name of the option, any suggestion on how to do that ?
[02:35] <velo|gfx> DjDarkman : are you there?
[02:35] <DjDarkman> velo|gfx: yes
[02:35] <velo|gfx> how did you installed ndiswrapper? without internet?
[02:35] <insector> ciao a tutti
[02:35] <hilary123x> after about 10 minutes of feeling stupid about how to register
[02:36] <velo|gfx> or did you connected direct?
[02:36] <hilary123x> I think I have just managed it :D hurrah :D
[02:36] <insector> c' qualche italiano che pu aiutarmi?
[02:36] <eagles0513875> hil did u get my pm
[02:36] <DjDarkman> velo|gfx: with internet
[02:36] <velo|gfx> mhm k ok have to finde some lan cable =) thx
[02:37] <icecruncher> DjDarkman: get any help yet
[02:37] <DjDarkman> icecruncher: well I copied and modified my PC`s fstab entry hopefully it should work on my laptop too
[02:38] <puppetmaster> Hello everyone
[02:38] <DjDarkman> just a silly question
[02:38] <puppetmaster> I need a downloader like IDM in linux
[02:38] <DjDarkman> is it a bad thing to write on CD/DVD someting from a fat32 partition in linux?
[02:38] <puppetmaster> What will it be?
[02:39] <icecruncher> DjDarkman: lol
[02:39] <puppetmaster> Anyone?
[02:40] <icecruncher> !patience | puppetmaster
[02:40] <ubotu> puppetmaster: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:40] <dominion> does anyone know if opera configuration files are the same between windows and linux? Would I be able to copy them across? Or do I have to adjust everything from scratch?
[02:40] <DjDarkman> icecruncher: this is not funny I need fat 32 for ms windows compatibility
[02:40] <icecruncher> DjDarkman: jk
[02:40] <puppetmaster> I'm soo sorry but it's a simple question
[02:41] <mat1980> puppetmaster: what is IDM?
[02:42] <puppetmaster> Internet Download Manager
[02:42] <puppetmaster> it's a great download program
[02:44] <zorglu_> q. i just upgraded to feisty and now i got a 'line' in the middle of each button, a kind of coloring which make the button lower part darker than the upper part. i know it is possible to remove it by configuration because i already done it in edgy. my issue is i dont remember the name of the option, any suggestion on the name/path of this option ?
[02:44] <icecruncher> puppetmaster: oh, in firefox, get downthemall
[02:45] <puppetmaster> ???
[02:45] <blubbi> hi all
[02:45] <icecruncher> puppetmaster: it's a firefox addon
[02:45] <blubbi> can enybode help me to install a AWE64 ISA Sound card
[02:46] <puppetmaster> I'll search for it and I'll get back to you
[02:46] <blubbi> the problem is that it is a ISA card and I dont know how to install ISA cards
[02:47] <aroo> why are you still using an isa card
[02:48] <DjDarkman> mount is ignorent amd messed up, how can I make it come to it`s senses?
[02:49] <DjDarkman> how can I make it forget that I switched off the power of my usb dvd writer?
[02:50] <blubbi> aroo: its an old PC
[02:50] <blubbi> and the card is still great
[02:52] <DjDarkman> can someone recomend me a good partitioner program?
[02:52] <blubbi> by the way.. where do I tell ubuntu to autoload modules... in gentoo I have /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6
[02:52] <aroo> DjDarkman: gparted, qtparted
[02:52] <blubbi> where I can put modules which should be loaded on startup
[02:53] <icecruncher> DjDarkman: qtparted
[02:54] <icecruncher> puppetmaster: found it yet?
[02:56] <velo|gfx> DjDarkman : still there? =9
[02:57] <DjDarkman> yeah velo|gfx
[02:57] <icecruncher> how is dolphin better? i heard from someone that it ws somehow way better
[02:57] <velo|gfx> could you post that link one more time? my FF just sucked up :(
[02:57] <DjDarkman> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177&highlight=Wireless+BCM4318+AirForce+Card
[02:57] <DjDarkman> use opera :)
[02:57] <DjDarkman> or konqueror
[02:58] <icecruncher> no firefox rules
[02:58] <icecruncher> lol
[02:59] <velo|gfx> thx
[03:00] <puppetmaster> yes I found it
[03:00] <puppetmaster> thanks alot
[03:00] <puppetmaster> but I wanted something more like Idm
[03:00] <puppetmaster> it has so many feetures
[03:01] <icecruncher> puppetmaster: what an idm?
[03:01] <icecruncher> puppetmaster: use Kget
[03:01] <puppetmaster> Internet Download Manager
[03:01] <icecruncher> ah
[03:01] <puppetmaster> What's so great about idm is
[03:01] <khaije1> soooo........
[03:02] <khaije1> where do i put my virtual machines....
[03:02] <khaije1> ?
[03:02] <puppetmaster> he shutdown my pc after finished
[03:02] <puppetmaster> it has a schedule has so many great thing
[03:04] <ardchoille> puppetmaster: kget can shutdown after downloads are finished :)
[03:06] <icecruncher> ok, something crazy...
[03:06] <icecruncher> can anyone tell me how to set up konversation to have a prive conversation as soon as it starts? (like ubotu for ex.)
[03:06] <puppetmaster> I'll try it
[03:06] <icecruncher> *privat
[03:07] <zorglu_> icecruncher: see #konversation
[03:07] <icecruncher> thks, lol
[03:07] <puppetmaster> No, thnks to u
[03:08] <icecruncher> puppetmaster: np
[03:09] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[03:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:10] <Jucato> icecruncher: Connection -> Server List -> Edit -> Commands -> in the text field you can put: /query ubotu
[03:11] <velo|gfx> hmmm strange
[03:12] <velo|gfx> if i try to restart kubuntu something strange happens. my monitor turn off but my computer did not restart
[03:12] <velo|gfx> somebody know how it happens?
[03:12] <icecruncher> if I wanna take out my usb drive, is it better to safely remove"?
[03:13] <mat1980> icecruncher: it's a good thing to do
[03:13] <icecruncher> mat1980: but why?
[03:14] <mat1980> icecruncher: because Linux doesn't write changes on the drive immediately. It keeps changes on ram, untill you sync or umount.
[03:15] <icecruncher> mat1980: thnks
[03:15] <Jucato> icecruncher: it's the wise/good thing to do on any OS, Linux or Windows
[03:16] <icecruncher> Jucato: true, but I've been told that it doesn't kill th usb, and doesn't matter
[03:16] <Jucato> it may not kill the USB, but it may ruin some files some times, afaik
[03:17] <icecruncher> :)
[03:17] <mat1980> icecruncher: yes if's not safe your hour disk, is safe for your data
[03:18] <icecruncher> ok, something else....:)
[03:18] <icecruncher> what to do when my usb is in read only?
[03:19] <icecruncher> I didn't set it to that
[03:20] <logixoul> icecruncher: check the perms of /media/nameofdevice
[03:21] <puppetmaster> What's wrong with rmvb files?
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/CONAN Doyle
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/0060763280.pdf
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/Dangerous Google - Searching For Secrets.pdf
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/Music and Lyrics DVDRiP XViD [WwW.TT1TT.NeT] .txt
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/Novel Collection 6.exe
[03:21] <logixoul> huh?
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/+O'reilly 2006 - Mind Performance Hacks.pdf
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/+O'reilly - Mind Hacks [2005] .pdf
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/Powerful.Sleep.Secrets.Of.The.Inner.Sleep.Clock.pdf
[03:21] <puppetmaster> file:///home/puppetmaster/Desktop/D/Books/b/The.Art.of.Intrusion.pdf
[03:21] <puppetmaster> sorry
[03:21] <logixoul> heh
[03:21] <puppetmaster> I can't run it on VLC?
[03:22] <puppetmaster>  and real player is very slowly
[03:22] <puppetmaster> What should I do?
[03:22] <icecruncher> !paste | puppetmaster
[03:22] <ubotu> puppetmaster: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:22] <logixoul> puppetmaster: try kaffeine
[03:23] <puppetmaster> it didn't work on it also
[03:23] <zorglu_> q. i just upgraded to feisty and now i got a 'line' in the middle of each button, a kind of coloring which make the button lower part darker than the upper part. i know it is possible to remove it by configuration because i already done it in edgy. my issue is i dont remember the name of the option, any suggestion on the name/path of this option ?
[03:24] <logixoul> haha
[03:24] <logixoul> zorglu_: it's supposed to look like a cool lightning effect. just switch from polyester to plastik to get rid of it
[03:24] <zorglu_> logixoul: ok trying
[03:24] <logixoul> zorglu_: or, alternatively, change the button type from "glass" to "inverted" or "normal" in the polyester options
[03:25] <torch> hi all, is it possible to extract the installation .iso file to an USB device and boot/install from that USB device?
[03:25] <logixoul> zorglu_: kcontrol->appearance->style
[03:25] <logixoul> !usb
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <zorglu_> logixoul: did the job, thanks :)
[03:26] <logixoul> np
[03:26] <velo|gfx> after an update ive got 2 diffrent kubuntu versions on grub! with endings 15 and 16
[03:27] <velo|gfx> whats wrong?
[03:27] <logixoul> velo|gfx: nothing
[03:27] <logixoul> velo|gfx: 15 is the old version
[03:27] <logixoul> velo|gfx: it's still there just in case the new one fails
[03:27] <velo|gfx> mhm
[03:27] <velo|gfx> k
[03:27] <velo|gfx> so i sould just to start the new one
[03:27] <velo|gfx> -to
[03:27] <silver_> does anybody knows how to make 3D support on video trindent cyber blade ?
[03:28] <velo|gfx> thx :)
[03:29] <romudog> Linux Pwnz All.
[03:30] <mat1980> icecruncher: is your disk mounted read-only, or have you no permission? what is the output of mount?
[03:30] <dominion> what would cause a "returned error code(1)" when I attempt "sudo apt-get update"?
[03:31] <icecruncher> mat1980: I didn't try to mount it man
[03:31] <dominion> actually it says "Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)"
[03:31] <icecruncher> mat1980: I'll try now, but I couldn't format in qtparted
[03:31] <mat1980> icecruncher: system do it automatically. You have to know how.
[03:31] <icecruncher> mat1980: pls explain
[03:33] <mat1980> icecruncher: when you plug in a drive in the usb, system mounts it. You have to know what option it uses.
[03:33] <Darkrift411> how do i install an older version of firefox?
[03:33] <Darkrift411> can i do it with apt?
[03:33] <Darkrift411> or do i have to build it
[03:33] <icecruncher> mat1980: what option
[03:33] <icecruncher> ?
[03:34] <mat1980> icecruncher: mount options. When you mount something you can give some option. But what does format concern? I havn't understood what you are tring to do with gparted.
[03:35] <icecruncher> mat1980: I'm trying to format my disk, but It won't let me read it format it whatever
[03:37] <mat1980> icecruncher: sorry... can't translate the second part of your sentence.
[03:38] <dominion> ice cruncher is unable to read or format.
[03:38] <dominion> I think that's ice is a saying.
[03:38] <icecruncher> mat1980: as in I cannot make any changes to the disk, nor can I acess tit's content :)
[03:38] <icecruncher> yep
[03:38] <icecruncher> *it's
[03:38] <dominion> tit's   :P
[03:38] <icecruncher> sorry
[03:39] <mat1980> mat1980: thanks :) now I've understood :)
[03:40] <mat1980> icecruncher: well... plug in the drive, and give use the output of dmesg
[03:41] <dominion> why would this error occur? "
[03:41] <dominion> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[03:41] <dominion> Err http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/main Packages
[03:41] <dominion>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[03:41] <dominion> It's coming from a reliable server I imagine. And I have tried the update many times.. but it's always the same error.
[03:42] <dominion> it's really frustrating.. I just want to install stuff, and I can't get any further.
[03:42] <puppetmaster> how to mount a .daa cd?
[03:43] <puppetmaster> how to mount a .daa cd image ?
[03:44] <icecruncher> mat1980: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27414/
[03:47] <mat1980> icecruncher: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda ?
[03:49] <snake_> i did apt-get autoremove and now i have no sound and i can not play videos in browsers
[03:53] <_4strO> snake_: can you paste the return of this command : cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep remove
[03:54] <_4strO> or simply look what it was removed
[03:54] <BluesKaj> Morning all :)
[03:55] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: good evenig :)
[03:56] <icecruncher> ah, my spelling is killing me
[03:56] <icecruncher> good evening
[03:56] <polopolo> Can I come here for mozilla Thunderbird questions?
[03:57] <snake_> _4strO: here is the return http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27420/
[03:58] <icecruncher> polopolo: you can try
[03:58] <_4strO> snake_: what time is it ?
[03:58] <_4strO> snake :p look on that you gave me you have the date
[03:58] <_4strO> when did you type apt-get autoremove ?
[03:58] <icecruncher> polopolo: or try #mozilla
[03:59] <snake_> _4strO: now its 4 a clock
[03:59] <hilary> Hey
[03:59] <icecruncher> hay
[03:59] <snake_> i did that at 4 a clock in the morning
[03:59] <snake_> before 12 hours
[03:59] <BluesKaj> 10 AM here icecruncher , so it's still morning :)
[03:59] <Schuenemann> heya
[03:59] <BluesKaj> hi Schuenemann
[04:00] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: here 9 pm
[04:00] <Schuenemann> 10:00? cool, just an hour of difference :-p
[04:00] <BluesKaj> aha asia or oz
[04:00] <hilary> so is no one struggling to sign into their messengers with Kopete or Pidgin or anything? or is it just me?
[04:00] <polopolo> How can I get mail from one a-mail addres to one folder on mozilla Thunderbird
[04:00] <Schuenemann> hilary, I'm on gtalk/pdgin and msn/amsn
[04:00] <jussi01> @now helsinki
[04:00] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Helsinki: June 27 2007, 17:01:01 - Current meeting: Edubuntu
[04:01] <Schuenemann> @now salvador
[04:01] <Schuenemann> unknown heh
[04:01] <polopolo> @now amsterdam
[04:01] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Amsterdam: June 27 2007, 16:01:28 - Current meeting: Edubuntu
[04:01] <hilary> so its just me then lolz
[04:01] <Schuenemann> @now bahia
[04:01] <ubotu> Current time in America/Bahia: June 27 2007, 11:01:48 - Current meeting: Edubuntu
[04:02] <polopolo> @now amsterdam | Schuenemann
[04:02] <Schuenemann> thanks, it's very important for me to know what time is it in Amsterdam
[04:02] <polopolo> Nobody has answer on my question?
[04:02] <eagles0513875> hilary
[04:02] <Schuenemann> polopolo, could you explain it better?
[04:02] <hilary> eagles
[04:03] <polopolo> ok
[04:03] <eagles0513875> did u sing back in
[04:03] <BluesKaj> polopolo, what exactly are you trying to do ...import email addresses ?
[04:03] <eagles0513875> hilary: do /msg nickserv identify then ur password
[04:03] <Schuenemann> use one folder per account?
[04:03] <hilary> yeah Pidgin and Kopete still hate me
[04:03] <eagles0513875> :(
[04:03] <snake_> can anyone help me with the sound server error please
[04:03] <icecruncher> @bangkok
[04:03] <polopolo> no, that e-mail from a e-mail addres comes into a folder in mozilla thunderbird
[04:03] <eagles0513875> join the pidgin channel and see if anyone else is having the same issues
[04:04] <Schuenemann> polopolo, you can use a filter
[04:04] <jussi01> !thunderbird
[04:04] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[04:04] <icecruncher> @now bangkok
[04:04] <ubotu> Current time in Asia/Bangkok: June 27 2007, 21:04:17 - Current meeting: Edubuntu
[04:04] <jussi01> heh, thats not much help is it...
[04:04] <polopolo> filter, ok, I try
[04:04] <Schuenemann> polopolo, tools > filter
[04:04] <eagles0513875> hilary: ur passwords typed in correctly and caps lock not turned on
[04:04] <polopolo> I saw, thank you:D
[04:05] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: I've now been online like 11 hours
[04:05] <icecruncher> lol
[04:05] <eagles0513875> anyone know where canonical is based
[04:05] <BluesKaj> icecruncher, sounds to me like you need a life too :)
[04:05] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: isle of weight?
[04:05] <polopolo> eagles: A rich african men?
[04:05] <polopolo> !o4o | eagles0513875
[04:05] <ubotu> eagles0513875: Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic. It is asked that controversial topics: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[04:05] <jussi01> !canonical
[04:05] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, UK
[04:06] <ubotu> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[04:06] <polopolo> oops
[04:06] <icecruncher> icecruncher: well it's summer break, no school til august
[04:06] <polopolo> sorry wrong
[04:06] <eagles0513875> kool
[04:06] <eagles0513875> polo wtf
[04:06] <polopolo> eagles0513875: sorry wrong
[04:06] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:06] <eagles0513875> ty blues
[04:06] <Schuenemann> what is o4o?
[04:06] <icecruncher> oho?
[04:07] <Schuenemann> and what is oho?
[04:07] <Schuenemann> [11:05:58]  <polopolo> !o4o | eagles0513875
[04:07] <eagles0513875> ?
[04:07] <icecruncher> i mean oh oh?
[04:07] <polopolo> Founded in 2004, Canonical Ltd is a company headquartered in Europe with 90+ employees working in over 18 countries. Canonical is the commercial sponsor of Ubuntu project.
[04:07] <eagles0513875> brb guys need to restart my modem see if that helps anything
[04:07] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical
[04:08] <polopolo> !o4o > Schuenemann
[04:08] <icecruncher> well more like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonical_Ltd.
[04:08] <icecruncher> sorry
[04:08] <Schuenemann> polopolo, I wanted to know what is "o4o"
[04:08] <polopolo> oh
[04:08] <polopolo> wait
[04:08] <icecruncher> hey its on the isle of man
[04:08] <polopolo> !notrue
[04:08] <icecruncher> I ws close
[04:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about notrue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:08] <icecruncher> lol
[04:09] <polopolo> offtopic4offtopic
[04:09] <Schuenemann> very descriptive...
[04:09] <icecruncher> haha
[04:09] <snake_> this is what i get when i try to play something.
[04:09] <snake_> Sound server fatal error:
[04:09] <snake_> Error while initializing the sound driver:
[04:09] <snake_> device: default can't be opened for playback (Operation not permitted)
[04:10] <Schuenemann> !pastebin > snake_
[04:10] <BluesKaj> in the irish sea...interesting, icecruncher
[04:10] <icecruncher> mat1980: any solution yet?
[04:10] <snake_> sorry
[04:10] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: less taxes maybe, no patent issues
[04:10] <snake_> !pastebin
[04:10] <snake_> Sound server fatal error:
[04:10] <snake_> Error while initializing the sound driver:
[04:10] <snake_> device: default can't be opened for playback (Operation not permitted)
[04:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:11] <snake_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27426/
[04:11] <mat1980> icecruncher: sorry.. I was away. Can you give me again the link of the fdisk ?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> less parent issues in europe in general , anyway
[04:11] <icecruncher> mat1980: at the bottom
[04:11] <eagles0513875> hilary u still here
[04:11] <icecruncher> mat1980: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27417/
[04:12] <icecruncher> BluesKaj; *parent*  rotflol
[04:12] <icecruncher> mat1980: thnks
[04:13] <mat1980> icecruncher: well... it shows the fat partition... the output of mount ?
[04:13] <icecruncher> mat1980: ?
[04:13] <icecruncher> oh
[04:13] <BluesKaj> MS is trying to FUD some of the linux enterprise co's and mandriva just told them to take flying leap ... no patents on softwate code in Europe
[04:13] <BluesKaj> or very few
[04:14] <icecruncher> mat1980: mount: mount point /media/usb does not exist
[04:15] <mat1980> icecruncher: ok, but type only the command mount, without any option. It will show you what is mounted on the system
[04:16] <icecruncher> mat1980: done
[04:17] <mat1980> icecruncher: resolved?
[04:18] <icecruncher> no
[04:18] <snake_> artsd crashed. what can i do
[04:18] <snake_> ?
[04:18] <mat1980> icecruncher: then... where is the output?
[04:18] <icecruncher> mat1980: at the bottom
[04:18] <icecruncher> mat1980; ok, it resolved
[04:19] <icecruncher> mat1980: no idea why
[04:19] <lontra> can i resize an ext3 partition with qtparted?
[04:20] <icecruncher> mat1980: read yes, no format
[04:20] <icecruncher> mat1980: just gonna try on win :()
[04:20] <mat1980> icecruncher: I guess id of paste changes every time you change its content. So you should give the new link every time.
[04:21] <mat1980> icecruncher: do you start gparted with sudo?
[04:21] <Daisuke_Ido> lontra: i would recommend gparted, qtparted tends to be rather buggy
[04:24] <fritz> how do you change the taskbar...the original big grey ugly 1 with something that looks more 21th century?
[04:24] <BluesKaj> gparted live cd is the best way to go...solid with many more options
[04:24] <icecruncher> mat1980: well I did it in win, so now it works
[04:25] <BluesKaj> !gparted | lontra
[04:25] <ubotu> lontra: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[04:25] <fritz> and if any1 knows how do you make the windows themselves transparent?
[04:26] <fritz> ?
[04:26] <BluesKaj> I must admit utorrent running under wine and DLing the same file is quite a bit faster then ktorrent ... interesting
[04:27] <BluesKaj> !eyecandy
[04:27] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:29] <mat1980> icecruncher: ok
[04:30] <philip_> Oh noes
[04:30] <fritz> ok,,,,
[04:30] <philip_> First install hey guys :) great OS
[04:30] <fritz> well that didn't help
[04:31] <fritz> i'm running kubuntu
[04:31] <fritz> and there is no theme manager here
[04:31] <philip_> anyone know a utorrent style app for linux, automated RSS downloading etc
[04:31] <fritz> and nowhere does it say how to change the taskbar or toolbar
[04:32] <fritz> neither is there any info on window transparency
[04:33] <eagles0513875> do u have the beryl theme manager
[04:33] <eagles0513875> i know u can change that stuff with that
[04:34] <philip_> theme manager sucks
[04:35] <vander> fritz-try system settings->advanced->KDE resources
[04:37] <dr_willis> I tend to use ktorrent for my torrent needs
[04:41] <eagles0513875> what bout azureus
[04:41] <eagles0513875> hilary ill ttyl
[04:43] <clouder`grr> Where do I find power management options in KDE?  Mainly for telling the monitors to turn off after so long or not
[04:45] <Daisuke_Ido> system settings > monitor and display
[04:45] <dr_willis> Theres a Panel applet that lets ya set some of those. i think. also.
[04:45] <dr_willis> My laptop hass some other panel applet for a few other powersettings also
[04:47] <clouder`grr> When I go into Monitor and Display it says I have an orphaned control module or an old 3rd party module
[04:47] <clouder`grr> I originally ran gnome, and I'm giving the kubuntu package a run
[04:49] <dr_willis> you did install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package?
[04:49] <clouder`grr> dr_willis: yeah
[04:49] <dr_willis> it should all work. Thats how i normally do it all.
[04:49] <dr_willis> Its possible its some odd video card driver issue.
[04:52] <omega> hy to all
[04:52] <omega> yes i'm back
[04:53] <omega> to bother u all :))
[04:53] <omega> whit my beryl
[04:54] <omega> i gues that i don't know to set up my videeo card
[04:55] <omega> that's why doesn't work my beryl
[04:56] <omega> can help me
[04:56] <jussi01> omega: /join #ubuntu-effects
[05:00] <rockets> How do I enable logging in Kopete? I can't seem to find the option.
[05:01] <Some_Person> Is there an ubuntu human theme for kde?
[05:01] <Jucato> rockets: Settings -> Configure Plugins -> History
[05:01] <Jucato> Some_Person: try http://www.kde-look.org
[05:02] <rockets> ty
[05:02] <Some_Person> I can't find one
[05:02] <rockets> Some_Person: all I've found is an old broken one
[05:03] <Some_Person> me too
[05:03] <rockets> That'd be really nice though.
[05:03] <Some_Person> I want it to make KDE apps look better in Ubuntu - I am not an actual KDE user
[05:03] <Some_Person> But I thought this would be a better place to ask
[05:04] <Some_Person> all i have is the broken one that doesn't work and you can't delete
[05:04] <rockets> Can I use the regular ubuntu restricted module manager if I have kubuntu
[05:06] <dr_willis> rockets,  yes.. i use it all the time. :)
[05:08] <zorglu_> q. on feisty, when unlog/restart etc.. a splash screen appears with some options, it has a 'weird' video effect in the background, how can i disable this effect ?
[05:09] <zorglu_> q. feisty starts a networkmanager and batterymanager in the applet of the panel, i would like it to stop, where should i look ?
[05:11] <dr_willis> remoive the programs, log out, when you log back in. they proberly wont restart.
[05:12] <zorglu_> dr_willis: all is in the 'probably' :) i tried and they do
[05:12] <zorglu_> do restart i mean
[05:12] <fritz> 1. Make sure your xorg graphics driver has composite support and that you have composite turned on in your xorg.conf.
[05:12] <fritz> can any1 tranlate that?
[05:13] <fritz> http://dot.kde.org/1179921215/1179939974/1179941671/1180012629/
[05:13] <fritz> this is the tutorial on how to make windows transparent
[05:13] <fritz> i did everything but it doesen't work
[05:13] <dr_willis> zorglu_,  theres some 'save session' feature of kde. that may not be enabled righht. I nrmally have mine set to 'save on logout' i recall.
[05:14] <fritz> i found the windows tranlucency option in kcontrol
[05:14] <fritz> and set them to 30% but they don't change:(
[05:14] <zorglu_> ok i have seen this recently, lets try
[05:14] <fritz> any1?
[05:17] <fritz> 1. Make sure your xorg graphics driver has composite support and that you have composite turned on in your xorg.conf.
[05:17] <fritz> can any1 translate that?
[05:17] <fritz> come on...somebody...anybody?
[05:18] <Jevon> ok,question:
[05:18] <jussi01> fritz /join #ubuntu-effects
[05:19] <Jevon> Adept will no longer allow me to update or install packages, because it says that there is another adept process running. How do I stop the other process?
[05:19] <zorglu_> !fix-adept
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix-adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <zorglu_> i keep forgeting this alias
[05:19] <jhutchins_wk> !adeptfix
[05:19] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:19] <zorglu_> i wasnt that far
[05:19] <jussi01> lol
[05:19] <fritz> ?
[05:19] <Jevon> man, I like that bot
[05:20] <jhutchins_wk> fritz: Translate it into what?
[05:20] <fritz> what does it mean
[05:20] <fritz> cause i changed the translucrency and nothing happens
[05:21] <jhutchins_wk> Looks like pretty plain english to me, but not necessarily related to translucency, which works with some card but not others.
[05:21] <Arwen> quick question, I know KDE4 is far from done, but how much of it works?
[05:22] <jhutchins_wk> Arwen: Last I heard, mostly the part that crashes, but that was a while ago.
[05:23] <Arwen> ok
[05:23] <Jevon> sounds like windows
[05:23] <jhutchins_wk> I'm starting to see more preliminary packages available, so I'd say it's moving from alpha to beta stage.
[05:23] <mat1980> Jevon: killall adept
[05:24] <fritz> what is KWin?
[05:24] <jussi01> !info kwin
[05:24] <ubotu> kwin: the KDE window manager. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu20.1 (feisty), package size 1025 kB, installed size 3328 kB
[05:28] <zorglu_> sudo rm /usr/share/autostart/guidance-power-manager.desktop <- trying that now
[05:29] <ardchoille> Is there a desktop switcher type of app that will, when activated, zoom out and show non=overlapped thumbnails of all opened apps and let you choose an app?
[05:29] <Cugel> ardchoille: that's in Beryl/Compiz
[05:30] <dr_willis> Ive seen a similer thing in that mettis (mettiss?) also. :)
[05:30] <Arwen> ardchoille, that requires a compositing manager, e.g. compiz
[05:30] <ardchoille> Cugel: I won't runs those. Isn't there a stand-alone app that does it?
[05:30] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  not that ive seen
[05:30] <Arwen> ardchoille, no, because it only works when composite is enabled...
[05:30] <zorglu_> dr_willis: ok my magic rm did the job :) no more powermanager applet :)
[05:30] <ardchoille> Arwen: No, it doesn't. I've used one but forgot the name.
[05:30] <Arwen> otherwise you can't grab the windows to thumbnail em
[05:30] <Schuenemann> @now montreal
[05:30] <ubotu> Current time in America/Montreal: June 27 2007, 11:30:55 - Next meeting: Xubuntu Developers in 4 hours 29 minutes
[05:30] <Arwen> ^^ - simple as that, you're just not remembering right
[05:31] <ardchoille> Arwen: I know there's one that doesn't require compositing. I just need to remember the name.
[05:32] <icecruncher> I need a new fstab, mine is messed up
[05:32] <Arwen> but how would it work? if there's no composite enabled, the thumbnailer can't intercept the windows before they're drawn to screen
[05:32] <icecruncher> how can I get one?
[05:32] <Arwen> icecruncher, uh.... go fix it, you can't "get a new fstab"
[05:33] <icecruncher> Arwen: fix it how, it's all )&%#)%
[05:33] <Arwen> go pastebin it and I'll take a look
[05:33] <nirmal> !beryl
[05:33] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:33] <Arwen> !compiz is better than beryl
[05:33] <Arwen> oh, oops
[05:33] <ardchoille> compiz and beryl merged
[05:33] <nirmal> how to get it
[05:33] <icecruncher> Arwen: fix it how?
[05:33] <Arwen> read the link..
[05:34] <Arwen> icecruncher, it's just a file... you fix it by editing it
[05:34] <icecruncher> !fsatb
[05:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsatb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <Arwen> !fstab > icecruncher
[05:34] <nirmal> compiz where from i download Arwen
[05:35] <Arwen> ........................
[05:35] <kenzo> hi
[05:35] <jhutchins_wk> !compiz | nirmal
[05:35] <ubotu> nirmal: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:35] <icecruncher> Arwen: yeah, but I'd like to start over
[05:35] <jhutchins_wk> icecruncher: What is it exactly that you would like us to tell you?
[05:36] <icecruncher> jhutchins_wk: my whole mounting of my usb disk is messd up, want a fresh fstab like at boot
[05:37] <jhutchins_wk> icecruncher: Well, the original fstab is generated by the installer.  You could reinstall if you insist that you don't want to fix the one you have.
[05:37] <ardchoille> ok, I meant app switcher, not desktop switcher. My bad.
[05:37] <icecruncher> jhutchins_wk: reinstall, can i repair the system?
[05:38] <jhutchins_wk> icecruncher: Certainly.
[05:38] <icecruncher> jhutchins_wk: as in via alternate cd repair?
[05:38] <jhutchins_wk> icecruncher: Like arwen said, read the doc on fstab, and if necessary pastebin your current one and ask for help.
[05:38] <jhutchins_wk> icecruncher: No.
[05:39] <jhutchins_wk> icecruncher: Not any way that I know of at least.
[05:39] <ardchoille> icecruncher: You didn't make a backup before editing it?
[05:39] <icecruncher> ardchoille; no, it was edited via the disks and filesys in sys settings, coudnt change after that
[05:40] <jhutchins_wk> icecruncher: In the time you've been moaning about it, you could have fixed it already.
[05:40] <icecruncher> jhutchins_wk: sure
[05:41] <zorglu_> q. on feisty, there is a 'log out' splash which has a 'weird' effect on the background, how can i disable it ? the dark bar going up and down
[05:41] <paolo> before i have lost my connection to this channel, i've asked: is there a protocol which is both reliable and connectionless?
[05:42] <icecruncher> ok, sorry for moaning, I'll go rtsm
[05:42] <zorglu_> paolo: not a mainstream one, no
[05:42] <zorglu_> paolo: why do you ask for that ?
[05:42] <dr_willis> zorglu_,  i just disable all the splash/framebuffer stuff :)
[05:43] <zorglu_> paolo: thinking about it, reliable imply connection
[05:43] <see-g> paolo: uhm ... I saw a description of something like that some time ago when I randomly browsed through the sourceforge
[05:43] <zorglu_> dr_willis: ok trying this :)
[05:43] <SunStealth> Hey guys, I need help, where can I find the sound config file for my alsa sound device?
[05:45] <zorglu_> dr_willis: i browse the kcontrol, and found nothing about splash/framebuffer. any more precise pointer ?
[05:45] <icecruncher> ok, would anyone mind helping me edit my fstab? the link is http://pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org/27438/
[05:46] <dr_willis> zorglu_,  its a kernel boot time option i disable.
[05:46] <dr_willis> # defoptions=nosplash nofb
[05:46] <zorglu_> dr_willis: ah ok, well this wont help the kde delog, no ? i mean would be surprising...
[05:46] <dr_willis> in the menu.lst and rerun grub-install
[05:46] <dr_willis> :)
[05:46] <dr_willis> kde delog?
[05:47] <dr_willis> im refering to the boot splash/gfx/eye candy.
[05:47] <zorglu_> dr_willis: i was talking of the splash you get when you do the desktop -> popup menu -> logout
[05:47] <zorglu_> dr_willis: on feisty you got a splash in the middle of the screen with various big icons
[05:47] <zorglu_> dr_willis: and a weird background effect, just would like to disable this effect
[05:48] <dr_willis> I dont recall seeing any  effect... other then a greying out of the background I think. lets look
[05:49] <icecruncher> jhutchins_wk: would you mind helping me?
[05:49] <zorglu_> dr_willis: this is a 'darker bar going up and down'
[05:49] <dr_willis> It just does a animated 'dark fade' Hmm..  i always log out so fast.. i never notice it.
[05:49] <zorglu_> dr_willis: me too but it make my screen 'blink' in practice :)
[05:49] <dr_willis> #kde may know the proper place to kill that effect. Ive never seen issues with it.
[05:49] <dr_willis> or be a realman and just hit - alt-ctrl-backspace! :)
[05:50] <ardchoille> hahaha
[05:50] <zorglu_> dr_willis: in fact this has been added by kubuntu people apparently and is not on kde itself, from jucato on kde
[05:50] <dr_willis> or add a logout button to the panel.
[05:50] <zorglu_> dr_willis: yep i will find workaround if i can fix it properly
[05:50] <Jucato> zorglu_: hold on a sec, let me try to get something
[05:50] <ardchoille> zorglu_: How often do you log out? My main computer has been logged into kde for 3 months.
[05:50] <dr_willis> ive seen a similer effect for the various 'enter root password' things as well.
[05:51] <zorglu_> ardchoille: a lot :)
[05:51] <Jucato> zorglu_: you want to remove the fade effect?
[05:51] <Jucato> dr_willis: that's what happens on Ubuntu iirc
[05:51] <zorglu_> Jucato: yep, or make it more 'subtle', the edgy one was ok,
[05:51] <ardchoille> dr_willis: *that* has to do with the system keeping apps (keyloggers) from sniffing the admin pass.
[05:51] <zorglu_> Jucato: but no effect is ok too
[05:51] <dr_willis> I think we need animated video effects in thebackground!
[05:52] <dr_willis> like for kdesu - there shouldbe comptuers exploding as a warning! :)
[05:52] <Jucato> dr_willis: run mplayer without borders? :)
[05:52] <Jucato> fullscreen
[05:52] <Jucato> zorglu_: ok I think I have something, hold on
[05:52] <dr_willis> Logout shows various pc's  err.... melting.. :)
[05:52] <zorglu_> Jucato: ok waiting :)
[05:53] <icecruncher> jhutchins_wk: what is the mtab file?
[05:53] <ardchoille> !mtab
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtab - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <Arwen> mtab lists mounted filesystems doesn't it?
[05:53] <Jucato> zorglu_: in ~/.kde/share/config, open or create the ksmserverrc file (most probably it exists already)
[05:54] <icecruncher> Arwen: so where would usb come into play? mtab or fstab?
[05:54] <Arwen> .........
[05:54] <Jucato> zorglu_: then add this whole section at the end: http://rafb.net/p/XMFTpy85.html
[05:54] <zorglu_> wow :)
[05:54] <zorglu_> Jucato: ok trying
[05:54] <Jucato> zorglu_: the numbers are in milliseconds. the last one is in "percent"
[05:55] <Jucato> (0.6 = 60%)
[05:55] <Jucato> of course, the first one is either true or false
[05:55] <Jucato> doFancyLogout=false disables the fade effect. not sure if it brings back the default KDE fade
[05:56] <ardchoille> Jucato: Wow, you know kde quite well. I'm glad you're in this channel.
[05:57] <Jucato> lol no
[05:57] <icecruncher> Arwen: i get it, mtab is what to do when mount command is used
[05:57] <Jucato> it just so happen that I kept bugging the creator of that logout effect patch for that :)
[05:58] <Darkrift411> ok, i have a major problem
[05:58] <icecruncher> jhutchins_wk: is there a howto for mtab?
[05:58] <Darkrift411> seems any type of video is causing problems
[05:58] <Darkrift411> at first i thought it was just my browsers
[05:58] <Darkrift411> but now i cant even watch tv shows ive downloaded
[05:59] <Darkrift411> everything that plays video is freezing up
[05:59] <dr_willis>  locate  ksmserverrc   - shows several example ksmserverrc files   -- nifty
[05:59] <zorglu_> Jucato: cool thanks :)
[05:59] <dr_willis> usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/lesser-visual-impairment/share/config/ksmserverrc
[05:59] <dr_willis> that may be good for my wife. :)
[05:59] <zorglu_> Jucato: i experimented a bit, and there is a bug in the timer interpretation :)
[05:59] <Jucato> dr_willis: yeah there should be at least 2 or 3
[05:59] <Darkrift411> vlc, kaffiene, mplayer, firefox, konqueror and anything else i try to play video in arehaving this problem
[06:00] <Jucato> dr_willis, zorglu_: oh let me throw in something else for that :)
[06:00] <Jucato> doUbuntuLogout= in the same section of ksmserverrc
[06:00] <zorglu_> Jucato: try to put 50 on both Time and you will see the fade bar freeze in the middle of the screen
[06:00] <Jucato> dr_willis, zorglu_: true = new Kubuntu logout dialog. false = default KDE logout dialog
[06:01] <Darkrift411> anyone got any ideas?
[06:01] <foose12> im having a disply issue in kubuntu, is this the right place to ask?
[06:01] <zorglu_> Jucato: cool thanks, i got my edgy logout back :)
[06:01] <Evolution2> i have been trying to install the new version of wine. i untared it in my home directory but i dont understand what command i need to use to install it. btw, its wine 0.9.39
[06:01] <zorglu_> Jucato: thanks you are always so helpfull :)
[06:01] <Jucato> hahah
[06:01] <Jucato> you just got lucky :)
[06:01] <Jucato> !info wine
[06:02] <ardchoille> Jucato: Well, I'm glad you bugged him :)
[06:02] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.33-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9576 kB, installed size 44452 kB
[06:02] <dr_willis> Thers some experimental repository of wine  - i though for the latest releases.. for those that have to be cuttung edge. I guess. :)
[06:02] <icecruncher> do you have to restart the system once you've edited the fstab and the mtab?
[06:02] <dr_willis> but ive not used them.
[06:03] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  i cant recall ever needing to edit the mtab.
[06:03] <Darkrift411> is there another place i could ask?
[06:03] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  and it depends on whatyou did to the fstab.
[06:03] <Evolution2> so i should just stick to the adept wine
[06:03] <Evolution2> thats version 0.9.33
[06:03] <foose12> when i sety my desktop are to the maximim of 1280x1024, i gert purple vertical lines running down the screen about every 2 cm
[06:03] <Darkrift411> id think its new enough Evolution2
[06:03] <dr_willis> Evolution2,  if it works for what you need..id stick to it.
[06:03] <foose12> i have a samsubg 19inch
[06:03] <Jucato> Darkrift411: there is no need for you to compile (which is what you'll end up doing with that tarball/archive)
[06:03] <Darkrift411> thats not for me
[06:03] <Darkrift411> im having the video probs :(
[06:04] <Evolution2> dr_willis: ok thanks
[06:04] <Evolution2> so to get rid of the untar just delete it right?
[06:04] <Jucato> Darkrift411: just add this line to your repositories "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main"
[06:04] <Jucato> er sorry Darkrift411
[06:04] <Darkrift411> Jucato,
[06:04] <Darkrift411> heh
[06:04] <Jucato> Evolution2: there is no need for you to compile (which is what you'll end up doing with that tarball/archive)
[06:04] <Jucato> Evolution2: just add this line to your repositories "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main"
[06:05] <Darkrift411> dont think anyone saw my q:'
[06:05] <Darkrift411> s
[06:05] <Evolution2> as in konsole?
[06:05] <Jucato> Darkrift411: I saw. but no idea sorry
[06:05] <Jucato> Evolution2: in Adept or manually, either way
[06:05] <dr_willis> http://wine.budgetdedicated.com feisty/main wine 0.9.39~winehq0~ubuntu~7.04-1
[06:05] <fritz> is there anyway 2 make windows background transparent...as in replace the white picture with a transparent one?
[06:05] <dr_willis> :) version 9.39 there.
[06:05] <Evolution2> thanks
[06:06] <Jucato> Evolution2: in Adept, go to Adept menu -> Manage Repositories -> Third party tab
[06:06] <Jucato> then add the line that I just gave you in quotes
[06:06] <Arwen> fritz, what window?
[06:06] <Jucato> (don't add the quotes)
[06:06] <Evolution2> ok
[06:06] <Arwen> without composite, you can use fake transparency if that suites your needs
[06:06] <fritz> all windows
[06:06] <dr_willis> Ya got Fake Transparencies.. then ya got real ones.. :)
[06:06] <Arwen> nope
[06:06] <fritz> form konqueror
[06:06] <dr_willis> both are a bit on the useless side. I think.
[06:06] <Arwen> go get beryl (dead software) or compiz
[06:07] <fritz> allready have it
[06:07] <Darkrift411> beryl is dead?
[06:07] <fritz> but it runns really slow
[06:07] <fritz> on my computer
[06:07] <dr_willis> Thats the price you pay.
[06:07] <dr_willis> :)
[06:07] <fritz> no it's quite popular actually
[06:07] <fritz> ^.^
[06:07] <dr_willis> Its dead as in the projects are merging...
[06:07] <icecruncher> ok, in fstab, what does the suid mean?
[06:07] <Darkrift411> damnit
[06:08] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  'suid/nosuid' disables/allows the use of suid binaries on the partition/filesystem
[06:08] <icecruncher> dr_willis: suid binaries being biaries run with sudo?
[06:08] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  100% wrong. :)
[06:08] <dr_willis> suid binaries have the SUID bit set
[06:08] <icecruncher> ;(
[06:08] <dr_willis> nothing to do with 'sudo'
[06:09] <icecruncher> ?
[06:09] <dr_willis> Time to read/google about  'suid' bits I guess. :)
[06:09] <dr_willis> somthing that is 'suid root' when it runs by ANYONE gets ran as root.
[06:09] <dr_willis> that can be a big security issue.
[06:09] <dr_willis> thus the nosuid option. so people cant just pop in 'suid'ed' binaries to hack a system
[06:13] <Some_Person> When you save a color scheme in kcontrol where does it go?
[06:14] <zorglu_> q. i would like to prevent lighttpd to start automatically via /etc/init.d/lighttpd on boot, but still keep it installed, is there a ubuntu tool to disable it ?
[06:14] <dr_willis> i think in .kde somewhere. :)
[06:15] <foose12> !channel
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about channel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <zorglu_> (beside removing /etc/rc.d/K* file i mean :)
[06:15] <foose12> !channels
[06:15] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[06:15] <dr_willis> zorglu_,   the runlevels have LINKS to that file.. remove the link.
[06:15] <dr_willis> zorglu_,  cd /etc/rc2.d/ , and look at the links
[06:15] <icecruncher> dr_willis: does it matter in what order you put the oions in fstab?
[06:15] <zorglu_> dr_willis: yep the rc.d/K files ..
[06:15] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  not that ive ever seen
[06:16] <zorglu_> dr_willis: ok you are right, no time for fancy solution :)
[06:16] <dr_willis> zorglu_,  tweak the links to start/stop things.. and yes there are tools to do it.
[06:16] <_4strO> zorglu_: in system /settings / advanced / services manager ? or something like this ?
[06:16] <dr_willis> fancy? :) removeing a link is fancy.. heh.
[06:16] <_4strO> zorglu_: in system settings / advanced / services manager ? or something like this ?
[06:16] <dr_willis> Huh., wonder what some of these do
[06:16] <dr_willis>  S20kde-guidance
[06:16] <zorglu_> _4strO: lookin
[06:16] <Arwen> wtf?
[06:17] <Evolution2> dr_willis: after i out that line in my repository, adept doesnt load anymore. it welll me there is an error. i types "apt-get update" and it tell me that the wine line i just entered is "not known in like 39 in source list"  how can i reverse this
[06:17] <_4strO> zorglu_: or system services
[06:17] <zorglu_> dr_willis: i know what guidance powermanager is a small applet
[06:17] <zorglu_> what=that
[06:17] <dr_willis> Evolution2,  sounds like a typo on your part.
[06:17] <Evolution2> how do i reverse it
[06:18] <dr_willis> Evolution2,  i just tacked that line to the end of mine and did a 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade'
[06:18] <Evolution2> so what should i type
[06:18] <dr_willis> Evolution2,  i edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file manually :)  so edit it and remove that line I guess.
[06:18] <dr_willis> or fix it
[06:18] <Evolution2> i dont get it
[06:18] <zorglu_> _4strO: hmm the 'system setting' apps is bugged on this one
[06:18] <zorglu_> _4strO: any idea of the command line they use ?
[06:18] <dr_willis> Evolution2,  what part? editing a file?
[06:18] <Evolution2> how do you get to that file
[06:19] <dr_willis> Evolution2,  its a text file.. i fire up a text editor and edit it.
[06:19] <zorglu_> _4strO: i did it in the past but cant remember, something with sysv in it
[06:19] <_4strO> zorglu_: try with ALT+F2 then kcontrol
[06:19] <dr_willis> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:19] <dr_willis> or similer
[06:19] <dr_willis> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt feisty main
[06:19] <dr_willis> is the LAST line i have in that file
[06:19] <icecruncher> back it up first!
[06:20] <_4strO> lol
[06:20] <icecruncher> i forget it to often
[06:20] <navets> hey is there a good php editor that I can use for debugging?
[06:21] <zorglu_> _4strO: maouaou i enter in a bug spiral:) kdesu kcontrol no more launch anything
[06:21] <Evolution2> dr_willis: thanks
[06:21] <Evolution2> i had the quotes!
[06:21] <Evolution2> thats why
[06:21] <_4strO> zorglu_: no need kdesu
[06:22] <zorglu_> _4strO: modifying /etc/rc.d without root ?
[06:22] <_4strO> zorglu_: no need to use kdesu to launch kcontrol
[06:23] <zorglu_> _4strO: in 'system service' when you click on 'admin mode', you get anything back ? here it goes 100% cpu for 20sec and then no more move with a large empty grey window
[06:23] <_4strO> zorglu_: it will ask you the admin pass when it will need it
[06:23] <_4strO> zorglu_:
[06:23] <_4strO> i think you should restart X :p
[06:23] <Evolution2> dr_willis: how come the "full upgrade" button in adept is blacked out. it wont let me click on it anymore. it that normal?
[06:24] <icecruncher> dr_willis: the dev/nodev in fstab means, dev; user can mount/
[06:24] <icecruncher> ?
[06:24] <_4strO> zorglu_: or kill the process who is eating all your CPU :p
[06:24] <zorglu_> _4strO: the process eating the cpu is kcontrol probing for all the services
[06:25] <_4strO> lol
[06:25] <zorglu_> !info sysv-rc
[06:25] <ubotu> sysv-rc: System-V-like runlevel change mechanism. In component main, is required. Version 2.86.ds1-14.1ubuntu18 (feisty), package size 55 kB, installed size 268 kB
[06:25] <zorglu_> bla!
[06:25] <_4strO> that's weird
[06:26] <icecruncher> what does the dev/nodev in fstab mean, dev; user can mount?
[06:26] <Evolution2> why is the "full upgrade" button in adept is blacked out. it wont let me click on it anymore. it that normal?
[06:27] <navets> does anyone know of a good php editior I can use for error checking?
[06:28] <zorglu_> _4strO: dr_willis: sudo update-rc.d -f lighttpd remove <- the official way :)
[06:29] <dr_willis> zorglu_,  under redhat and other disrtos they got a 'service' command
[06:29] <dranas> i got a quick and easy question
[06:29] <dr_willis> zorglu_,  offical way.. edit the links.. :)
[06:29] <zorglu_> dr_willis: :)
[06:29] <dranas> how do i change the k menu icon?
[06:29] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  all the fstab option are covered in 'man fstab' i do belive
[06:29] <icecruncher> dr_willis: not ver extensively though
[06:29] <zorglu_> !upgrade | Evolution2
[06:29] <ubotu> Evolution2: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[06:30] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  theres 2 fstab man pages I beliuve.. one for the command and one for the file
[06:30] <icecruncher> dr_willis: would you recomend user for a usb drive
[06:30] <_4strO> zorglu_: lol ok the official GEEK way ;)
[06:31] <dr_willis> ahh its man mount. :)
[06:31] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  depends on the filesystem, on the usb drive
[06:31] <_4strO> but the official clean way too
[06:31] <icecruncher> dr_willis: auto :)
[06:31] <icecruncher> dr_willis: dr_willis: as in should the user be able to mount it or  ratehr automount?
[06:32] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  its rather silly to even worry about the options then. since a great many will NOT apply to every filesystem
[06:32] <dr_willis> nosuid/nodev do not apply to vfat filesystems for example
[06:32] <icecruncher> dr_willis: true, but I wnt my usb drive to mount automatically as soon as i plug it in, what seeting woudl i need?
[06:32] <dr_willis> by adding a fstab entry - the things will stop being automounted by KDE - i do belive
[06:33] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  Mine does that allready.. well it pops up a dialog.
[06:33] <icecruncher> dr_willis; sou I don't need a fstab at all for it?
[06:33] <omega> hy i'm back
[06:34] <omega> now i don't have any more the titlle bar on every window
[06:37] <omega> anyone???
[06:37] <llp78> Hello: is it possible to enable Java on konqueror?
[06:37] <llp78> and how would I do it?
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> llp78: do you have java installed?
[06:38] <llp78> Well, i dunno - but it works in firefox and not in konqueror
[06:38] <llp78> But, I prefer Konqueror to firefox as its quicker.. IMO
[06:38] <_4strO> !java
[06:38] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:39] <llp78> Java is installed - I can access it from the shell
[06:39] <icecruncher> ok, another thing in fstab that keeps me wondering is the atime. any explanation?
[06:39] <Admiral_Chicago> llp78: go to setting >> configure konqueror >> plugins
[06:39] <llp78> So whats the next steps.... anyone
[06:40] <Admiral_Chicago> then click search for plugins
[06:40] <_4strO> llp78:  did you have it on firefox ?
[06:40] <dr_willis> icecruncher,    check google, and mount man pages. :) it explains all that.. and correct to autount my usb gizmos i do NOT have any entrys for them in fstab
[06:41] <Evolution2> how come the "full upgrade" button in adept is blacked out. it wont let me click on it anymore. it that normal?
[06:41] <llp78> yes, it works good in firefox,
[06:41] <_4strO> llp78: look on configuration / konqueror configuration / external modules
[06:41] <icecruncher> dr_willis: what about your mtab?
[06:41] <dr_willis> ive NEVER edited the mtab file
[06:41] <dr_willis> not sure it ever needs to be edited
[06:42] <llp78> Admiral_Chicago: i searched for pluggins and nothing appeared to happen
[06:42] <genii> llp78:  There's some stuff about it here http://www.konqueror.org/javahowto/
[06:42] <dr_willis> mtab is made by the system as needed
[06:42] <llp78> genii: good link - thanks
[06:42] <dr_willis> bbl
[06:42] <genii> llp78:  Looks like it depends on a package called kjas
[06:42] <omega> should i install the updates for kubuntu?
[06:43] <_4strO> omega: yes
[06:43] <omega> tanks
[06:45] <icecruncher>  would anyone mind looking at your mtab file and tell me if there is a entry for usb drives?
[06:45] <_4strO> mmm
[06:47] <_4strO> icecruncher: the only USB peripheral i have are keyboard and mouse, and they dont appear in my mtab
[06:47] <omega> how can i install nfs?
[06:47] <Minataku> Heya, genii
[06:47] <Minataku> What's up?
[06:47] <icecruncher> _4strO: no usb drive?
[06:48] <genii> Minataku 12 minutes left of my lunch break :)
[06:48] <Minataku> genii: Heehee
[06:48] <_4strO> icecruncher: procbususb /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0
[06:48] <Minataku> genii: Manage to ship that box out?
[06:48] <_4strO> thats the only line refer to usb
[06:48] <icecruncher> dunno
[06:49] <genii> Minataku BTW I have to send you several packages because doing it in one shot is horribly expensive unfortunately
[06:49] <Minataku> genii: Eep
[06:49] <Minataku> It'll probably end up adding up to that anyway >.<
[06:49] <Minataku> How expensive, for my reference?
[06:49] <genii> Minataku No worries just it will take longer etc
[06:49] <_4strO> omega: K / system settings / share ?
[06:50] <Minataku> Yeah, I'll have to dodge the multiple packages around my dad >.<
[06:50] <genii> Minataku Well to ship everything in one shot woulda been around $130 (Canadian)
[06:50] <Minataku> AIEEEE
[06:50] <Minataku> That's about $100 US
[06:50] <genii> Somewhere in there, yeah
[06:51] <Minataku> They ship by volume or what?!
[06:51] <genii> by weight
[06:51] <Minataku> Then it'll just add up to $130CDN anyway ;o;
[06:51] <Minataku> Let's shift to PM
[06:51] <genii> Minataku Yeah but I can stretch it out over a month or 6 weeks and it won't be so painful all at once LOL
[06:52] <Minataku> Heehee
[06:59] <dranas> so anyone know how to change the k menu icon?
[07:01] <rajkalyan> anyone
[07:01] <rajkalyan> i want to too
[07:07] <ardchoille> dranas: In your icon theme you will find an icon named kmenu or something like that, there are several.. one for each resolution (16x16, 22x22, 36x36, etc). You need to change those icons to change the menu icon
[07:07] <ardchoille> Or, you can install and use kbfx, and that'll do it too.
[07:08] <ardchoille> dranas: /usr/share/icons/$ICON_THEME/$SIZE/apps/kmenu.png
[07:11] <dranas> ty
[07:11] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[07:12] <jussi01> ok, I changed my icons around, and it changed the amarok icon. however when i changed them back/different, the amarok icon is still the wrong one, is there a way to change only 1 icon?
[07:13] <ardchoille> jussi01: To change just one icon, you'll have to go through ewach one of the resolution folders in your icon theme and change all those icons.
[07:14] <jussi01> gah, how do I get my amarok icon back...
[07:14] <jussi01> i have a thing that looks like a feckin volume control right now....
[07:15] <ardchoille> jussi01: Go to /usr/share/icons/$ICON_THEME/$SIZE/apps and fix it.
[07:15] <ardchoille> Probably amarok.png
[07:16] <jussi01> ardchoille: thanks... i fixed the naughty thing...
[07:16] <ardchoille> :)
[07:16] <ardchoille> Anyone use kbfx and know how to keep the menu on the right from scrolling? I'd like it to be a long menu, like the kmenu
[07:18] <Admiral_Chicago> i have two computers running on a LAN. is there a way to detatch a screen session on this computer and reattach on the other computer?
[07:18] <Yorokobi> !grubfix
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grubfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <Yorokobi> !fix grub
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix grub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <ardchoille> !grub
[07:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:19] <Yorokobi> There was a fix option for the bot
[07:19] <ardchoille> !search fix
[07:19] <ubotu> Found: aptfix, xorg.conf, adeptcrashfix, adept fix, fixres, artifacts-#ubuntu-effects, exploit, questions-#ubuntu-classroom-chat, adept crash fix, fixgrub
[07:19] <ardchoille> !fixgrub
[07:19] <Yorokobi> !fixgrub
[07:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:20] <ardchoille> Yorokobi: ^^
[07:20] <Yorokobi> wee
[07:20] <Yorokobi> thanks, ardchoille
[07:20] <ardchoille> You can search :)
[07:20] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[07:20] <ardchoille> Yorokobi: But, if the channel is busy, might be better to /msg ubotu   and seach in a pm
[07:21] <Yorokobi> but thanks ardchoille
[07:21] <ardchoille> :)
[07:21] <Yorokobi> etiquette is a good thing
[07:21] <ardchoille> Gotta love that bot :)
[07:21] <Kjellviz> hi there, i installed kubuntu/kde desktop on a ubuntu unstallation, how can i remove ubuntu/gnome ?
[07:22] <Kjellviz> man that was a poor sentence ><
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> Kjellviz: sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> then I suggest: sudo aptitude autoclean
[07:22] <Kjellviz> ok that'll remove gnome and all gtk apps+tools ?
[07:22] <Admiral_Chicago> yea
[07:22] <Kjellviz> aite sounds good
[07:22] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: You're wanting to stick with kde?
[07:22] <Kjellviz> ye
[07:22] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: Try this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[07:23] <ardchoille> Not sure if that applies, but you can tell better than me.
[07:23] <Kjellviz> i prefer gnome when it comes to managing my OS, but so many of the programs i use have the best alternatives made for KDE :P
[07:23] <ardchoille> Yikes! That's quite a long list of removes
[07:24] <Kjellviz> yeah!
[07:24] <Kjellviz> another question though
[07:24] <Kjellviz> theres a coupld of screensavers in gnome that i really like
[07:25] <Kjellviz> can i copy them over to kde first ?
[07:25] <ardchoille> It doesn't hurt to have gnome and kde installed at the same time and gnome apps run in kde and vice versa
[07:25] <Kjellviz> i know
[07:25] <Kjellviz> but my install is rather funky atm
[07:25] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: From what I understand, those gnome screensavers are just hacked xscreensavers.. should be available in xscreensaver and kde
[07:25] <Kjellviz> for starters its still using gnome to manage my screensaver
[07:26] <Yorokobi> Kjellviz, or use fluxbox with apps from both gnome and KDE
[07:26] <ardchoille> And I remember seeing a bunch of screensavers while looking through the repos
[07:26] <Kjellviz> whatever change i make in kde doesent apply to screensavers at all
[07:26] <Kjellviz> Yorokobi: fluxbox ?
[07:26] <Evolution2> i need the wine repositories in adept. can someone assist
[07:27] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: uninstall gnome-screensaver ?
[07:27] <Kjellviz> and, the default apps doesent run to nice, i uninstalled transmission but it still tries to use it as default torrent app
[07:27] <Arwen> is it possible to ssh into a vmware guest from the host OS?
[07:27] <Kjellviz> ardchoille: ye that was part of what i wanted to accomplish by removing gnome
[07:27] <Arwen> anyone?
[07:27] <Yorokobi> Kjellviz, fluxbox is another window manager (from Blackbox). Its faster/lighter than KDE & gnome
[07:27] <Kjellviz> hummm
[07:27] <Kjellviz> yet another alternative
[07:28] <dr_willis> dozen + window managers ya can use. :)
[07:28] <Kjellviz> when will i have time to stop tinkering and start using my comp ? :P
[07:28] <Kjellviz> ^^
[07:28] <dr_willis> matchbox (not related to fluxbox) , windowmaker, icewm,
[07:28] <Arwen> beryl, compiz,...
[07:28] <dr_willis> xfce, sawfish,
[07:28] <Arwen> xfce isn't a window manager
[07:28] <Arwen> FAIL!
[07:28] <dr_willis> compwiz is beryl now also.. isent it.
[07:28] <Kjellviz> no
[07:29] <Kjellviz> beryl is compiz
[07:29] <Kjellviz> ^^
[07:29] <dr_willis> and he was asking for Light weight alternatives.
[07:29] <dr_willis> Kjellviz,  wasent that what i said. :) in reverse order..
[07:29] <Arwen> dr_willis, other way around
[07:29] <Kjellviz> who was asking for lightweight ?
[07:29] <Arwen> yeah?
[07:29] <Arwen> this is #kubuntu, we don't know what lightweight even means
 Kjellviz, fluxbox is another window manager (from Blackbox). Its faster/lighter than KDE & gnome
 hummm
[07:30] <dr_willis> just go install them ALL and have KDM load one randomly!
[07:30] <Kjellviz> haha
[07:30] <Arwen> heh
[07:30] <Kjellviz> good idea ^^
[07:30] <Kjellviz> no im not looking for lightweigth at all
[07:30] <Kjellviz> im content with kde so far
[07:30] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: If you're interested in window managers, have a look here: http://xwinman.org/
[07:30] <dr_willis> i still rember the old days when gnome kept changing their default windo wmanager every month...
[07:30] <Kjellviz> but i installed it on a ubuntu install
[07:31] <Kjellviz> and ive got some strange behaviour
[07:31] <ardchoille> dr_willis: lol, yeah and they ended up with the worst one too.
[07:31] <dr_willis> Kjellviz,  thats normally how i install it.. with no problems
[07:31] <dr_willis> ardchoille,  yep.. lets go with the one NO one has ever heard of!
[07:31] <dr_willis> and that dosent let you change settings!
[07:31] <ardchoille> Yeah
[07:31] <Kjellviz> well ive still got loads of gnome stuff controlling what kde should be controlling
[07:31] <ardchoille> dr_willis: That's the main reason I dumped it for openbox in gnome
[07:32] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: Have you switched from gdm to kdm yet?
[07:32] <terayam> I need some help getting networkmanager to recognize my wusb11 adapter as a network device
[07:32] <Kjellviz> ardchoille: please elaborate
[07:33] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: gdm (gnome display manager), kdm (kde display manager).. those control the login screen as well as a few other things.
[07:33] <Kjellviz> ive got kde login and desktop
[07:33] <Kjellviz> thats all i know
[07:33] <Kjellviz> :P
[07:33] <ardchoille> Then you're using kdm
[07:33] <Kjellviz> im new to linux as well
[07:34] <Kjellviz> hehe
[07:34] <dr_willis> you did install 'kubuntu-desktop' ?
[07:34] <Kjellviz> yes
[07:34] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: Did it ask you to choose between kdm and gdm?
[07:34] <Kjellviz> but first i installed kde-desktop
[07:34] <Kjellviz> then kubuntu-desktop
[07:34] <terayam> the internet works great for the most part but the networkmanager doesn't display my device in it's network device menu
[07:34] <Kjellviz> nyeh
[07:34] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: kubuntu-desktop is just an empty meta package, it exists only to pull in the things kde needs to run properly
[07:35] <dr_willis> terayam,  what 'device' ?
[07:35] <terayam> dr_wills:  It's a linksys wusb11 2.6
[07:37] <Kjellviz> ardchoille: ok
[07:37] <Kjellviz> not sure if i dare removing gnome lol
[07:38] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: Might be easier to backup your personal stuff and install kubuntu from the kubuntu cd
[07:38] <ardchoille> That's what I did to switch from gnome to kde, less hassle.
[07:38] <Kjellviz> yes i was thinking of that alternative
[07:39] <daquino> what is ksuspend_usbd?
[07:42] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: That option would likely make your hard drive much less fragmented as well as start youoff with a fresh install. But, it's up to you.
[07:42] <Kjellviz> aint it possible to install kubuntu with home on a seperate partition so that a reinstall wont touch home ?
[07:43] <ardchoille> Yes
[07:43] <ardchoille> But I forgot how I did it.
[07:43] <hasan> hi guys
[07:43] <daquino> you just create another partition
[07:43] <hasan> i try to initiatate adept_installer
[07:43] <slash> ciao
[07:43] <hasan> but it says some other application prevents it
[07:44] <daquino> Kjellviz:  are you familiar with linux at the cli level ?
[07:44] <hasan> as far as i can see there is no application
[07:44] <hasan> where can i list the application or process blocking it?
[07:44] <pag> !fixadept | hasan
[07:44] <ubotu> hasan: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[07:44] <Kjellviz> daquino: probably not since i dunno what cli level is :P
[07:45] <ardchoille> cli = command line interface  (ie terminal)
[07:45] <Kjellviz> im not afraid of it if thats what u ask hehe
[07:45] <Kjellviz> i have run some commands and started my microsoft career in dos
[07:46] <Kjellviz> but im not very familiar no
[07:47] <hasan> i just want to thank ubotu
[07:47] <hasan> :)
[07:47] <hasan> u r great
[07:47] <hasan> :)
[07:47] <GrahamA> Hey
[07:47] <daquino> Kjellviz:  well is your system allready installed or is this a new install ?
[07:48] <ardchoille> hasan: ubotu is a bot, give him a botsnack instead ;)
[07:48] <ardchoille> !botsnack
[07:48] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[07:48] <Evolution2> ubotu: could you tell me how i can fix an adept problem
[07:48] <Kjellviz> daquino: its a ubuntu install which i installed kubuntu on top of using apt-get
[07:49] <ardchoille> !bot
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[07:49] <sayers> How do I set dolphin as my main file manager?
[07:49] <GrahamA> Dolphin?
[07:49] <sayers> In Gusty
[07:49] <Kjellviz> daquino: but i was thinkin of reinstalling kubuntu from scratch
[07:49] <GrahamA> OIC
[07:49] <GrahamA> Hows KDE 4?
[07:49] <sayers> a lot better
[07:50] <GrahamA> kmenu > system settings > default applications, try that
[07:50] <sayers> It is a file manager, don't know if this will work
[07:51] <GrahamA> I'm on Feisty, I don't know either :D
[07:51] <daquino> Kjellviz:  ah you dont need too do that... anyway take your ubuntu cd and boot into the live desktop... then use gparted to resize your root partition down to free up the desired space.... then create a new partition in the free space... then mount both partitions... move all the files from home directory over to the new partition... then edit your /etc/fstab to mount the new partition to /home... reboot
[07:51] <Hunding> is KDE 4.0 stable?
[07:51] <sayers> no it's testing
[07:52] <daquino> Kjellviz:  of course /etc/fstab refers to the fstab file in your "root partition" not on the live cd ramdisk
[07:53] <Kjellviz> daquino: ok, but the reason for reinstalling is that installing kde on ubuntu has rendered some weird behaviour on my comp
[07:53] <Kjellviz> that and prob some newb tweaking ive done hehe
[07:53] <daquino> wtf you talking about ?
[07:54] <Alata> Hullo folks, not a Kubuntu question per se, but, what would be the easiest way to check if a certain package is installed? I.e. from a shell script?
[07:55] <Kjellviz> daquino: im talking about that my install is fubar and the easiest way to fix is prob reinstall
[07:55] <Kjellviz> and when i do reinstall, i wondered if i could put home on a seperate partition for future use
[07:55] <daquino> Alata: dpkg --listfiles somepackage &> /dev/null; if [ "$?" -eq 0 ] ; then echo "package exists" ; fi
[07:56] <daquino> theres a dirty trick for you
[07:56] <daquino> Kjellviz:  yes my question was what is if foobard
[07:56] <Hunding> daquino: lol...little ove the top there with that package command there
[07:57] <ardchoille> daquino: That won't list packages installed from scripts (./configure) will it?
[07:57] <Kjellviz> daquino: like gnome still controlling my deafult apps and screensaver settings
[07:57] <daquino> Hunding:  hah why ?
[07:57] <Alata> Hmm, I'll try it out, thanks. :-)
[07:57] <daquino> ardchoille:  nothing will... build a deb when you build from source
[07:58] <daquino> Kjellviz:  wtf you talking about ? i installed every single ubuntu and its running fine
[07:59] <ardchoille> daquino: Ah, ok. I was asking because that's what he needed. I haven't needed to compile anything for two years.
[07:59] <Kjellviz> well maybe you did, but it sure dint go well here
[07:59] <Kjellviz> any changes i do in kde's tool for managing screensaver dont do shit
[07:59] <Kjellviz> but if i fire up gnome-screensaver (think thats the name) then i can change screensaver etc
[07:59] <ardchoille> Kjellviz: That's because you're running gnome screensaver, not the screensaver in kde
[08:00] <ardchoille> kill gnome screensaver and start kde's screensaver.
[08:00] <Kjellviz> kill it how ?
[08:01] <Kjellviz> and yes, the problems i have is more likely to be caused by my n00bishness than to a error in (k)ubuntu
[08:01] <Kjellviz> but its still a friggin error to me
[08:01] <Kjellviz> ><
[08:03] <Hunding> daquino: cause your command was far more than needed for the question...a simple sudo apt-cache search packagename will tell you if a package is installed or not
[08:03] <gary_> How do I convert an AVI in order that I can place it onto a DVD for viewing in a home dvd hi-fi system ?
[08:04] <gary_> I have converted the AVI once using Tovid into an M2V
[08:04] <gary_> I also have K3B installed
[08:04] <jaro> Hi, i have a question: what can I do to fix the following errormessage : insmod: error inserting 'stk11xx.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module  ??
[08:04] <Evolution2> /cs list
[08:04] <coreymon77> i believe k3b can do it
[08:04] <Evolution2> !list
[08:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:04] <gary_> it can
[08:05] <Evolution2> how do you get the list of chans on this server
[08:05] <gary_> provided the file fits in with what K3B desires :)
[08:05] <coreymon77> gary_: i think that burning a video dvd through k3b will automatically convert it to play in a regular player
[08:06] <gary_> error message of:
[08:07] <gary_> found files bigger than 2 GB. These files will only be fully accessible if mounted with UDF
[08:07] <gary_> the project does not contain all necessary DVD video files
[08:07] <daquino> Hunding:  he said he wants a scriptable way.... sure you could use apt-cache but then youd have to filter the output to look for something like "installed = no/yes"
[08:08] <daquino> ardchoille:  what about pidgin ? anyway i liked compiling my own stuff
[08:08] <gary_> the resulting dvd will most likely not be playable on a hi-fi DVD player
[08:08] <gary_> could not determine size of resulting image file.
[08:08] <gary_> any ideas  ?
[08:09] <coreymon77> daquino: you dont have to compile pidgin, tehre is an ubuntu deb for it
[08:09] <ardchoille> daquino: If it isn't in the repos, I don't use it. Which is why I've never had a crash or problem and my systems (11 computers) are super stable.
[08:09] <coreymon77> ardchoille: pidgin isnt necessarily in the repos, but that doesnt mean that there is not an ubuntu deb for it
[08:10] <daquino> coreymon77:  since when ?
[08:10] <daquino> ardchoille: cute man ... id like to know why my usb doesn't even send messages to hotplug when i come back from hibernation
[08:11] <coreymon77> daquino: www.getdeb.net
[08:13] <Nuked> this is going to be an odd question, but ill shoot for it
[08:13] <ardchoille> coreymon77: True, but I stick to the repos.. just personal prefs.
[08:13] <Nuked> is there a way I can transfer one file from kubuntu to a windows computer on my lan?
[08:15] <zipper> Nuked, there are several ways
[08:15] <tiiimos> I've installed nvidia-glx-new package and than renameed "nv" into "nvidia" and when I restarted KDE and I wasn't able to come back... any i deas?
[08:15] <zipper> you could use an ftp server, or you could use "samba" under linux, wich is compatible with windows' filesharing
[08:16] <ardchoille> Nuked: Is the windows drive ntfs?
[08:17] <tiiimos> I've installed nvidia-glx-new package and than renameed "nv" into "nvidia" and when I restarted KDE and I wasn't able to come back... any i deas? I have 7600 GT geforce...
[08:17] <osh> Latest kernel upgrade (I think) broke my X in a bad way. Whenever X starts the whole machine freezes. Any idea on where to start looking?
[08:18] <zipper> are there any good ways to break X? :)
[08:18] <rustalot> Does anyone know of a shell script for Konqueror that will let me easily mount/unmount disk images?
[08:18] <osh> Can't even do ctrl-alt-backspace to get back to prompt. or Ctrl-1 for VT.
[08:18] <ardchoille> zipper: lol
[08:18] <Evolution2> Evolution2: i would like to know what third party repositories i need to have in adept package manager. and i also iam wondering why the "full upgrade" button is shaded
[08:18] <ardchoille> osh: You can start with reading /var/log/Xorg*
[08:19] <osh> zipper: It'd been better if I could get back to a terminal afterwards, not just reboot.
[08:20] <Nuked> ardchoille: yes its ntfs
[08:20] <Nuked> zipper: please share
[08:20] <ardchoille> Nuked: Then you're going to need something to enable you to write to ntfs, I think it's fuse.
[08:20] <ardchoille> !fuse
[08:20] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:20] <Nuked> over a network?
[08:21] <ardchoille> You're still writing to an ntfs drive.. network or not.
[08:21] <osh> ardchoille: Yeah. Did that. No errors in there but the wacon ones. Nothing in dmesg either. :-/
[08:21] <Nuked> excellent
[08:21] <zipper> Nuked, already did. you could use an ftp server, or you could use "samba" under linux, wich is compatible with windows' filesharing
[08:21] <ardchoille> osh: Ok, those wacom errors are easy to get rid of once you have xorg working again.
[08:22] <Nuked> samba sounds promising
[08:22] <Nuked> how do I do it?
[08:22] <Nuked> !samba
[08:22] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:22] <osh> ardchoille: Yeah. Very non-critical and not something that would freeze my box.
[08:22] <coreymon77> zipper: what i did was sliced a big off from my 80 gig ntfs drive and formatted it as fat32, so that both oses could safely read and write to it, i use it as a storage drive
[08:22] <coreymon77> bit*
[08:22] <ardchoille> osh: Right
[08:23] <zipper> coreymon77, i did the same, but that wasnt his question
[08:23] <Nuked> zipper that seems like a lot of work
[08:23] <zipper> Nuked, setting up an ftp server in linux is pretty simple
[08:23] <zipper> dont know achat
[08:24] <gediminas> This weekend I installed Kubuntu 7.04 in my cousin's PC. He lives in another town. (and he is 11 years old)
[08:24] <gediminas> When he had questions, I tried to answer them, installed stuff personally using that desktop sharing thing.
[08:24] <gediminas> HOWEVER now he has a serious problem: The keyboard doesn't seem to work when he logged into KDE. Console works fine though. What program could he have deleted or installed, or what settings has he turned on accidentally that prevent keyboard from working? I tried to fix it using that desktop sharing, but I couldn't find the problem.
[08:24] <Nuked> never done it before zipper...
[08:24] <andrey_> Hello
[08:24] <dale> How can I install kde4?
[08:24] <zipper> Nuked, then you're lucky, you're in for some good fun :)
[08:24] <Nuked> zipper lead the way!
[08:24] <gediminas> does anyone know what could prevent the keyboard from working in KDE?
[08:24] <osh> dale: Wait until october. Then apt-get install kde4.
[08:25] <osh> dale: ;-)
[08:25] <zipper> Nuked, there is no way for me to lead. It's all in the links you got from ubotu
[08:25] <dale> Can I install it I want to see what it is like.
[08:25] <zipper> Nuked, either that, or search the ubuntu wiki
[08:26] <osh> dale: There were some instructions about it on kubuntu.org but have a look at kde.org as they have a live-cd with kde4 on it.
[08:26] <gediminas> please help me
[08:26] <dale> Will kubuntu gusty have it?
[08:26] <osh> dale: probably the safer bet.
[08:27] <osh> dale: Not likely.
[08:27] <osh> dale: that gutsy will have kde4.
[08:27] <dale> :(
[08:27] <dale> October is ages away.
[08:28] <coreymon77> dale: wait unitl october, gutsy will probably not have kde4 preloaded, but it will be available for download when it comes out
[08:28] <coreymon77> dale: kde4 is not finished yet, meaning its unstable and buggy
[08:29] <osh> dale: I think the second alpha is out june/juli sometime. Have a look at that live-cd. Should give you an idea.
[08:29] <dale> Im downloading it now 73%....
[08:29] <dale> Gota love broadband ;)
[08:30] <mth54> ciaocioacioaciaociaociaociaociao
[08:30] <coreymon77> dale: that i will agree with
[08:30] <osh> dale: that's probably alpha-1 you're downloading, right? It's VERY alpha quality.
[08:31] <dale> Its a suse live cd
[08:31] <dale> yes it is.
[08:31] <osh> dale: yeah. And don't expect much from it. nepomuk didn't even start when I tried it.
[08:31] <dale> kk
[08:32] <tiiimos> how can I checked if driver is installed for nvidia, I just installed nvidia-glx-new package
[08:33] <osh> !ati
[08:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:34] <Ornedan> Hi. Where does the boot process get logged to in Kubuntu 7.04?
[08:35] <see-g> Ornedan: I guess that would be /var/log/boot
[08:35] <osh> Ornedan: or dmesg if you want to have a look at those messages.
[08:36] <ardchoille> What exactly is dmesg for? And why is it differnet than /var/log/* ?
[08:36] <tiiimos> is my driver installed of nvidia http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27463/
[08:37] <Ornedan> I'm interested in the service messages, so I guess it would be /var/log/boot. Except the file didn't seem to get updated since I went from edgy -> feisty
[08:38] <dale> What would you say the best linux distro is?
[08:38] <ardchoille> kubuntu, of course ;)
[08:38] <ardchoille> Seriously, this distro ROCKS!
[08:38] <GrahamA> It does like...
[08:39] <GrahamA> Rox0rz ,my s0x0rz
[08:39] <ardchoille> DELL seems to like it too :)
[08:39] <dale> Is dell still supporting ubuntu?
[08:40] <ardchoille> YEs, and they are expanding their Ubuntu line too.
[08:40] <roho> so i was trying to connect to the nxserver on this machine, it worked yesterday.  but i get a bunch of kde-related errors.  could someone look at the output and at least give me a clue as to what i'd do to fix the problem?
[08:40] <ardchoille> http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS6756576859.html
[08:40] <rustalot> Is there a list of Konqueror plugins that I can download somewhere?
[08:41] <ubuntu__> bjour
[08:43] <roho> ok, maybe someone could tell me at least what "kicker: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Unable to create io-slave:" means?
[08:43] <roho> there were a bunch of io-slave errors, actually
[08:43] <lupul> hi. are there other dc++ clients beside valknut & dcpp?
[08:43] <ardchoille> roho: That error has to do with the kicker (desktop panel). Have you installed new panel applets lately?
[08:44] <roho> yeah
[08:44] <ardchoille> roho:
[08:44] <roho> well, they were just added, i didn't install them
[08:44] <ardchoille> Try disabling the ones you installed and see if that helps. If it helps, you'll know what to troubleshoot.
[08:44] <ardchoille> added, right.
[08:44] <roho> here is the output:  http://sial.org/pbot/25844
[08:45] <roho> well, i have no idea. i've just moved the panels around
[08:48] <roho> you know, i'd pay for good support.  community support is so fickle, eh?
[08:48] <ardchoille> roho: ouch!
[08:48] <roho> well, it's nothing against you
[08:49] <ardchoille> roho: Well, there's support here, there's also http://ubuntuforums.org and a few others.
[08:49] <roho> yeah, i've been there. thanks.
[08:49] <ardchoille> No, I meant ouch wrt that output you pasted.
[08:49] <roho> yeah.
[08:49] <roho> i can't make heads or tails of it
[08:49] <roho> but, i have seen one error before, when i run a program from a terminal
[08:49] <ardchoille> roho: You haven't by chance used any third party scripts like automatix have you ?
[08:50] <roho> this one: X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
[08:50] <roho> no
[08:53] <dale> I like vista
[08:53] <dale> Go microsoft!
[08:53] <dale> Vista is the greatest OS
[08:53] <ardchoille> dale: Please stop
[08:53] <dale> lol I am only joking.
[08:54] <ardchoille> Oh, I thought you were drunk or something.
[08:54] <dale> I was trying to see what others would say.
[08:55] <dale> I must say I am not a microsoft fan, but vista is very impressive.
[08:57] <mangz74> hmm
[08:57] <roho> dale: that's called trolling, and it isn't very good irc manners.
[08:57] <mangz74> flamebaiting?
[08:58] <peanutb> flamebating can also get you kicked
[08:59] <sayers> I wish my Mother Board had acpi :(
[08:59] <dale> Whats acpi?
[08:59] <peanutb> !acpi
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <sayers> wow...
[08:59] <zipper> dale, impressive? Why? Cus' it can do the same thing as windows xp, only slower?
[08:59] <peanutb> the most dreaded part of the kernel
[08:59] <zipper> dale, acpi has to do with power management
[09:00] <roho> !kicker
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <roho> hm
[09:00] <zipper> sayers, your motherboard does indeed have acpi
[09:00] <sayers> No it indeed does not :0
[09:00] <zipper> sayers, unless you're using hardware from the last decade :P
[09:00] <peanutb> !katapult
[09:00] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[09:00] <sayers> No the makers at sony didn't put it in
[09:00] <sayers> APM and ACPI don't work. They thought making their own would be a better idea
[09:01] <roho> thanks peanut.
[09:01] <dale> zipper: Not if you have a decent setup.
[09:01] <zipper> sayers, so you're not able to power off your PC using the power button?
[09:01] <zipper> dale, yes, also then. A decent setup would still be faster running winXP than vista.
[09:01] <sayers> zipper: I can do that but that is a button connected directly to the motherboard. The Kmenu shutoff doesnt work
[09:02] <zipper> dale, that said, i think superFetch and those other buzz-words may become pretty cool once vista have gotten a few patches
[09:02] <zipper> sayers, you sure it's not just a matter of linux not supporting acpi for your motherboard, rather than it doesnt have it?
[09:02] <dale> And a decent crack.
[09:02] <zipper> dont care much about cracks, i get all MS products for free
[09:02] <sayers> zipper: they had to make a program for it to work on windows
[09:03] <Daisuke_Ido> a vista troll?  in MY #kubuntu?
[09:03] <zipper> sayers, still, they wouldn't be able to make such a program if your motherboard didnt support it
[09:03] <Daisuke_Ido> FOAD.
[09:04] <sayers> zipper: True Linux doesnt support the motherboard "No ACPI support in kernel, or incorrect acpi_path ("/proc/acpi")."
[09:04] <zipper> sayers, look in your bios settings, i'm sure you'll find either APM or ACPI settings there
[09:04] <sayers> Hm I guess, but last time I looked nothing.
[09:05] <kharloss> hi there . i have a problem setup a virtual host for apache . when i try  to restart my httpd
[09:06] <kharloss> [Wed Jun 27 22:03:50 2007]  [warn]  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts
[09:06] <kharloss> httpd (pid 3626?) not running
[09:06] <kharloss> any solution ?
[09:06] <kharloss> i guess it`s a minor problem  but how can i found it ?
[09:07] <FireHazard17> can some one tell what kde's wm is?
[09:07] <ardchoille> FireHazard17: kwin
[09:07] <peanutb> kharloss, did you do a a2ensite?
[09:07] <FireHazard17> thank you
[09:08] <FireHazard17> thank you very much that just fixed my comp for me :)
[09:09] <ardchoille> That fixed your comp?
[09:09] <ardchoille> Well, You're welcome :)
[09:09] <ALI1> Enter text here...
[09:09] <ardchoille> ALI1: hahaha
[09:10] <FireHazard17> it did i had run compiz --replace and i guess compiz wasnt compiled right and i was stuck with no window manager and to fix it i had to run kwin --replace
[09:12] <ardchoille> FireHazard17: Ah, yeah.
[09:15] <kharloss> yes peanutb   i did a2ensite
[09:16] <peanutb> kharloss, where did you put the site config file?
[09:16] <kharloss> but  "/etc/apache2/sites-available$ /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[09:16] <kharloss>  * Reloading apache 2.0 configuration...                                                                      [Wed Jun 27 22:14:19 2007]  [warn]  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts
[09:16] <kharloss> httpd not running, trying to start
[09:16] <kharloss> (13): make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :443
[09:16] <kharloss> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[09:16] <kharloss> Unable to open logs
[09:16] <kharloss> "
[09:16] <peanutb> sudo?
[09:16] <sacater> peanutb: hi
[09:16] <sacater> peanutb: did you get my email?
[09:17] <kharloss> /etc/apache2/sites-available$ /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[09:17] <kharloss>  * Reloading apache 2.0 configuration...                                                                      [Wed Jun 27 22:14:19 2007]  [warn]  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts
[09:17] <kharloss> httpd not running, trying to start
[09:17] <kharloss> (13): make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :443
[09:17] <kharloss> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[09:17] <kharloss> Unable to open logs
[09:17] <peanutb> kharloss, do sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[09:17] <kharloss> i do it .
[09:17] <kharloss>  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[09:17] <kharloss>  * Reloading apache 2.0 configuration...                                                                      [Wed Jun 27 22:17:39 2007]  [warn]  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts
[09:23] <Alata> I would like to find out if any package in the (k)ubuntu repositories provides a file "xml2lst.pl". How would I do to find out?
[09:24] <Narada> hi all; how do i get quake2 to run on the left screen in a twinview setup
[09:25] <Narada> it's the default ubuntu x twinview install
[09:30] <rockets> Where do I  go to view my chat history in kopete
[09:33] <BluesKaj> rockets, look around
[09:36] <khaije1> are there any eye-candy type system monitors i can put on my desktop?
[09:37] <Evolution2> how do i upgrade my KDE
[09:37] <Evolution2> i have KDE 3.5.6
[09:37] <apogee> hi all
[09:37] <apogee> IK would appreciate it if someone could help me pls
[09:38] <apogee> I need to change the refresh rate of my monitor ,Gnome is up and runnig 1024x768 @ 60hz currently
[09:38] <BluesKaj> !KDE
[09:38] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[09:39] <apogee> how do i change the monitor device?
[09:39] <BluesKaj> to what ?
[09:40] <BluesKaj> apogee, first of all , do have linux drivers installed for you graphics card and your monitor ?
[09:40] <apogee> BLUESKAJ : My monitor now isnt setup properly.Id like to change it to its specific model identified its na NEC Multisync 75F
[09:41] <apogee> blueskaj  the Radeon 9200 is correctly identified and set
[09:41] <apogee> the NEC monitor is not
[09:42] <BluesKaj> look in sys/settings/Monitor&Dispaly/Hardware
[09:43] <BluesKaj> apogee, admin mode , look for the monitor drivers for your model, and choose the one that applies , then apply
[09:43] <UbuntuServerUse1>  I have a simple question, I'm trying to delete media/server (I created it) with rm -f /media/server and it says : rm cannot remove `/media/server': Is a directory how I remove it?
[09:44] <apogee> blueskaj in kde system >preferences >screen resolution? or to this systems hard disk directory?
[09:45] <UbuntuServerUse1> nvm gotta use rmdir
[09:45] <apogee> blueskaj : admin mode means log in as root ?
[09:46] <BluesKaj> apogee, k-menu systemsettings/monitor&display/admin mode/hardware
[09:47] <BluesKaj> when you choose admin mode it'll ask for your pwd to become sudo
[09:47] <BluesKaj> or root
[09:48] <apogee> blueskaj should i log out to find this K menu ? then choose admin mode login as root?
[09:48] <apogee> right now im logged as a simple user
[09:48] <BluesKaj> apogee ,are you in kubuntu or ubuntu?
[09:48] <apogee> ubuntu
[09:49] <apogee> oops this is a Kubuntu channel :(
[09:49] <csmith1991> Can anyone help me with some ndiswrapper problems?
[09:49] <Daisuke_Ido> this is the help channel specifically for kubuntu, there's always #ubuntu :D
[09:49] <BluesKaj> then /join #ubuntu  ... kubuntu uses a differnt desktop
[09:49] <apogee> Blueskal Thanks anyway
[09:50] <Daisuke_Ido> csmith1991: easy solution, buy a supported card.  but i sense that's not what you're looking for...
[09:50] <BluesKaj> gawd
[09:50] <rajkalyan> whats a voice
[09:51] <BluesKaj> voice has certain priveleges in some irc channels ...don't think anyone here has voice
[09:51] <rajkalyan> oh
[09:52] <rajkalyan> can i get help
[09:52] <BluesKaj> !ask | rajkalyan
[09:52] <ubotu> rajkalyan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:53] <rajkalyan> ok
[09:53] <rajkalyan> my laptop running kubuntu edgy cannot restart
[09:54] <BluesKaj> rajkalyan,pls be more specific ..does it boot up ?
[09:54] <rajkalyan> yes
[09:54] <Daisuke_Ido> upgrade to feisty?
[09:54] <rajkalyan> shutdown is fine
[09:54] <rajkalyan> how
[09:55] <rajkalyan> will i lose my data
[09:55] <Daisuke_Ido> probably
[09:55] <rajkalyan> man!
[09:55] <Daisuke_Ido> that's just one solution
[09:55] <BluesKaj> yeah, that's aprob with some setups .
[09:55] <rajkalyan> sheesh
[09:55] <Daisuke_Ido> to get you to the currently supported release
[09:55] <rajkalyan> man!
[09:56] <Daisuke_Ido> now, as far as actually fixing the problem without an upgrade or anything...  i'm sure it can be done
[09:56] <Daisuke_Ido> i just don't know how.
[09:56] <BluesKaj> rajkalyan, I just do ctrl+alt+backspace then i shut down or restart from the login menu
[09:56] <ubuntu__> could somebody help my getting my sound working
[09:57] <sic> hey i oculd help u
[09:57] <sic> what happened to ur card?
[09:57] <ubuntu__> oke
[09:57] <ubuntu__> what happend with my card what do you mean sic
[09:57] <rajkalyan> ok
[09:57] <BluesKaj> ubuntu__, first of  all pls choose a different nick
[09:57] <Arwen> lol
[09:57] <BluesKaj> right
[09:58] <otnio> this is better
[09:58] <sic> ok
[09:58] <sic> what r the symptons
[09:58] <sic> ??
[09:58] <sic> u just dont have ANY osunds at all?
[09:58] <otnio> well no sound what so ever
[09:58] <otnio> right sic
[09:58] <otnio> running kubuntu edgy
[09:58] <Arwen> hate to be condescending, but is your volume turned up? and are your speakers attached?
[09:58] <Arwen> if they are, what model sound card/chip?
[09:58] <sic> n do u have only 1 sound card installed?
[09:59] <otnio> its a laptop and yes they are attached :)
[09:59] <otnio> i have only one sound card
[09:59] <Arwen> what model?
[09:59] <otnio> how do i know
[09:59] <Arwen> uh...
[09:59] <otnio> i think an intel
[09:59] <sic> check in the system info
[10:00] <sic> system->cheek info center
[10:00] <sic> sry
[10:00] <otnio> product: 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller
[10:01] <sic> ok type this in a console n let me know the answer
[10:01] <sic> sudo asoundconf list
[10:02] <otnio> Names of available sound cards:
[10:02] <otnio> Intel
[10:03] <sic> thats all?
[10:03] <otnio> thats all
[10:03] <sic> now type this
[10:03] <sic> sudo asoundconf set-default-card Intel
[10:04] <otnio> done
[10:04] <sic> n double chek the sound for me plz
[10:04] <sic> still not working?
[10:04] <otnio> still not working
[10:05] <sic> n r u pretty sure that all ur sound system is working ok
[10:05] <otnio> yes i am sure about it
[10:05] <Arwen> if you have Windows on that laptop, could you boot it and tell us what the device manager says?
[10:06] <otnio> ehm yes i could
[10:06] <otnio> anyway the drivers are loaded
[10:06] <otnio> but let me reboot
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> lspci
[10:06] <otnio> what Admiral_Chicago
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> would tell you the device
[10:06] <SunnyTany> Bonsoir tout le monde!
[10:07] <nicolas> bonsoir
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> hey SunnyTany
[10:07] <otnio> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[10:07] <SunnyTany> Je vais poser une question con mais...
[10:07] <BluesKaj> perhaps he should check Kmix and alsa to make sure nothing is muted and his input and output levels are turned up and the the switches are turned on for his inputs as well
[10:08] <nicolas> y a que des rponse idiotes ;)
[10:08] <SunnyTany> ...si on change de carte video y a t il des modifs de config  faire pour l'utiliser pleinement ou c'est reconnu tout seul au reboot?
[10:08] <SunnyTany> :)
[10:08] <aaroncampbell> I had to re-do a bunch of network stuff on my system, and now it seems that samba isn't working quite right.  I can access \\192.168.2.1 from a windows computer, but not \\aaron (which is what I used to use)
[10:08] <BluesKaj> SunnyTany, c'est anglais ici
[10:08] <BluesKaj> !fr
[10:08] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:08] <otnio> nothing is muted BluesKaj
[10:08] <SunnyTany> Ooops..My bad. Sorry all guys....
[10:09] <nicolas> ok sorry
[10:09] <nicolas> move to....
[10:09] <BluesKaj> otnio, type alsamixer in the konsole
[10:10] <otnio> done BluesKaj
[10:10] <otnio> nothing is muted
[10:11] <BluesKaj> make sure none of the sliders are Muted (M)...if they are type the letter M , then you will see '00'
[10:11] <otnio> everything has the 00
[10:12] <Graham> Anybody here know how to make compiz start when using XGL?
[10:13] <otnio> brb BluesKaj let me reboot
[10:13] <BluesKaj> ok, in system settings /sound system ..enable the sound system ..then check hardware and under select the audio device , choose 'Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'
[10:14] <BluesKaj> have to cover all the bases , with these sound probs
[10:15] <dranas> ello
[10:15] <Graham> 'lo
[10:16] <dranas> anyone know where i can find deoders for movie player or mplayer for real media?
[10:17] <BluesKaj> !google | dranas
[10:17] <ubotu> dranas: Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[10:17] <dranas> .....
[10:17] <dranas> as if i havent tried google
[10:18] <BluesKaj> google linux might find it
[10:18] <dranas> i dont want to instyall real player...icky icky thingie
[10:19] <BluesKaj> dunno if mplayer will do real media
[10:20] <BluesKaj> mplayer is in the repos
[10:20] <dranas> yeah i got that, im ookin for the real media decoder, if there is such a thing
[10:21] <Jahman> hi
[10:22] <aaroncampbell> I had to re-do a bunch of network stuff on my system, and now it seems that samba isn't working quite right.  I can access \\192.168.2.1 from a windows computer, but not \\aaron (which is what I used to use)
[10:22] <BluesKaj> dranas, sorry but i haven't heard of such a decoder
[10:22] <jhutchins> dranas: You want the helix codecs, I believe that mplayer will use them to play real media.
[10:22] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: What are you doing for WINS?
[10:23] <BluesKaj> ahhh jhutchins to the rescue :)
[10:23] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: I don't know.
[10:23] <dranas> alright helix codecs thanks
[10:23] <aaroncampbell> How would that normally be handled?  I simply set up samba when I set up the computer, and everything worked
[10:24] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: I suspect that when you know, you'll have your solution.  Look at your samba server config file.  I find that using swat, with it's handy links to the references, makes it easier to manage.
[10:24] <jhutchins> WINS == Windows Internet Naming Service - their attempt to replace DNS.
[10:24] <CPUFreak91> The mouse buttons don't respond when I start Compiz under KDE. I'm running XGL and the fglrx binary drivers.
[10:25] <CPUFreak91> The buttons work fine under an XGL environment without compiz running, btw
[10:25] <jhutchins> CPUFreak91: Congratulations!  You have one of the majority of systems that compiz doesn't work properly on!
[10:25] <Pizzario> new kubuntu blog : http://dtc59.miniville.fr/
[10:25] <CPUFreak91> jhutchins: Hehe.
[10:26] <CPUFreak91> jhutchins: It's gotta be a config problem though, not because I have to use the proprietary crap
[10:26] <jhutchins> CPUFreak91: Ok, if you say so.  #ubuntu-effects probably has a better knowledge pool - a lot of us don't bother with it.
[10:27] <CPUFreak91> thanks
[10:27] <zipper> Pizzario, fuck you, and your gay little spam-every-one-game. Noone cares, and you're only making people hate you.
[10:27] <NickPresta> !language | zipper
[10:27] <ubotu> zipper: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:27] <Pizzario> zipper luv'
[10:28] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: Looks like I have swat installed, but I'm not sure how to set it up.  I tried swat from the command line, but it just sits there.  I'll go google it
[10:29] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: It's a web-type service, http://localhost:931?  Not sure of the port, try http://localhost:swat
[10:29] <Riddell> Pizzario: that's not a kubuntu blog
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[10:30] <domipit> hi all
[10:30] <incorrect> hello, is there a good qt based email client?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> can anyone suggest a tool to convert from bmp to jpeg
[10:31] <eji> gimp
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> incorrect: Thunderbird / KMail no good for you?
[10:31] <jhutchins> incorrect: pine?
[10:32] <incorrect> can you get thunderbird with qt widget set?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> incorrect: not sure, sorry
[10:33] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: it's :901 but it doesn't work.  grepping my xchat logs shows you recommended it before, but I never got it to work.  I'll see if I can figure out what I did instead
[10:33] <incorrect> kmail can be a little bit pants,
[10:34] <incorrect> i was hoping for evolution with qt
[10:34] <ontio> oke my sound is working :)
[10:34] <ontio> with a reboot, kubuntu is just like windows just reboot, to solve your problems :)
[10:34] <BluesKaj> cool ontio
[10:35] <Dusk_> no sound :(
[10:36] <Dusk_> when i start kubuntu always comes a kmix screen
[10:36] <BluesKaj> not always ...no BSD in linux , just WSD if you run beryl on an ati card :)
[10:36] <Dusk_> but there is no sound
[10:38] <Daisuke_Ido> i always thought running beryl on ati was more of a WTF moment...
[10:38] <GrahamA> Gota love Compiz
[10:38] <BluesKaj> window dressing!
[10:38] <GrahamA> Daisuke_Ido: I put compiz on my computer yesterday with an ati card, honestly it just worked!
[10:38] <GrahamA> Well...
[10:38] <Daisuke_Ido> exactly
[10:38] <vzduch> jhutchins: pine == Qt?
[10:39] <Daisuke_Ido> uh
[10:39] <GrahamA> For some reason I can't right click anything... but I'm sure they're working on it...
[10:39] <Daisuke_Ido> pine == cli
[10:39] <vzduch> Daisuke_Ido: that's what I thought
[10:39] <Daisuke_Ido> i wonder how the merge is going
[10:39] <GrahamA> Thing is.. for some reason XGL runs slow as hell, I start an XGL session and everything takes ages.
[10:40] <GrahamA> Start compiz and it's just as quick as it is normally...
[10:41] <rajkalyan> how do i install new cursors
[10:41] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: looks like swat needs inetd, and only xinetd is available in the repos...and it doesn't work
[10:42] <BluesKaj> so GrahamA , you can't do what you'd like to do , but everything looks nice ? :)
[10:43] <rajkalyan> what do i do with ubuntucenter alpha 1
[10:43] <melkor> I am trying to ssh into a website location, when I do it automatically starts me into the mail program and I can't get out
[10:43] <GrahamA> BluesKaj: Exactly!
[10:44] <GrahamA> Although I just tried tux racer and... although slightly transparent... it works.
[10:44] <GrahamA> I though openGL would just go XGL? SOD OFF1
[10:44] <BluesKaj> i had the same , GrahamA
[10:44] <GrahamA> I'm coming back to aiglx
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> melkor: what port you connecting to?
[10:48] <melkor> I dont enter the port I just use ssh myname@place.edu
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> melkor: surely you just ssh to place.edu
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> ssh place.edu/22
[10:49] <melkor> no that logs me on as melkor@place.edu
[10:49] <melkor> I could try the second one.
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> you just ssh in the validate yourself
[10:49] <melkor> I don't follow
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> melkor: you just connect to the site then you will be prompted for username and password
[10:51] <melkor> just a password
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> melkor: try without username
[10:51] <melkor> ...since I use the username@location.edu
[10:51] <melkor> I did it doesn't work
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> melkor: try specifying port 22
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> melkor: i gotta split guys
[10:52] <melkor> That worked except I get the same thing
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> peace y'all
[10:52] <melkor> peace
[10:52] <blackblizzzek> on a home-pc with two harddisk (one with / and /boot, other with /home and /var/www) where should the swap be put?
[10:54] <Arwen> blackblizzzek, on the one that typically sees less use
[10:54] <Murchadh> melkor - try ssh -l username port
[10:54] <Arwen> so probably the second one, though if you run a webserver, maybe the first one
[10:54] <blackblizzzek> Arwen: well, which is it? ;)
[10:54] <Arwen> dunno, you tell me
[10:54] <Arwen> it's your system after all, lol
[10:55] <blackblizzzek> i am wondering myself
[10:55] <melkor> For some reason F3 is not being passed to the host
[10:55] <Arwen> blackblizzzek, it's not that big a difference anyway :-)
[10:55] <Arwen> just do it randomly?
[10:55] <rustalot> can I get an extension for Konqueror that will let me mount .iso files?
[10:55] <Arwen> !iso | rustalot
[10:55] <blackblizzzek> Arwen: thx
[10:55] <GrahamA> Why does xgl run slower without compiz?
[10:55] <ubotu> rustalot: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:56] <Arwen> GrahamA, it does? probably because it's not direct rendered, so anything uncomposited is done by software.
[10:56] <Arwen> try using AIGLX since it runs on top of normal X
[10:56] <GrahamA> Does for me.
[10:56] <Arwen> well, probably for the reason I said
[10:57] <rustalot> Arwen: I know how to do it that way; my question is, can I get a plugin/extension/script/etc that will let me do it in the GUI, like right-click>"Mount" or something
[10:57] <ZxYxZ> why does my kubuntu boot so long? even xp does faster
[10:58] <Arwen> rustalot, I think simply googling "kubuntu iso mount script" should cover it
[10:58] <Arwen> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Tools/Mount-ISO-image-2216.shtml - for example, this one (just picked it off the list, I won't vouch for it)
[10:59] <Ramon> I need some assistance installing ubuntu... I don't know whats happening but i've been trying debian, and debian based distros like kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu-lite etc... and all of them are giving me "debootstrap" errors when doing the "base installation"
[10:59] <dromer> how can I activate the kqemu acceleration module ?
[11:00] <rustalot> Arwen, yeah, I got one that looked very nice, but when I run the install.sh it gives me "./install.sh: 146: function: not found <br> <br> Couldn't find ! <br> Type the full path here or press "Ctrl+C" to abort: "
[11:00] <Arwen> meh, keep googling then? or try using bash instead of sh.
[11:00] <Dusk_> 'alsa
[11:00] <Dusk_> !alsa
[11:00] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:01] <Ramon> !installation
[11:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:01] <Ramon> I need some assistance installing ubuntu... I don't know whats happening but i've been trying debian, and debian based distros like kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu-lite etc... and all of them are giving me "debootstrap" errors when doing the "base installation"
[11:02] <dromer> Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated
[11:02] <dromer> hmm
[11:03] <Arwen> you need the accelerated qemu cruft... qemu by itself is too slow to do anything
[11:03] <dromer> Ramon: I tried a debootstrap to a disk recently, thath was with debian Woody and Sarge though
[11:03] <Ramon> what happened..?
[11:03] <Ramon> dromer: did you fix it?
[11:03] <dromer> Arwen: I know, but how can I activate/install it? I compiled/installed from source but I still get this
[11:03] <snerge> How do you specify the order of your video devices, my webcam and my tv tuner keep switching around video0 and video1 ?
[11:03] <dromer> Ramon: I could debootstrap just fine
[11:04] <Ramon> dromer: what was the issue.. how can i fix this?
[11:04] <dromer> Ramon: haven't tried it with any current stables though, those where from archived repositories
[11:04] <Ramon> and what should I do?.. i mean to give a try
[11:04] <dromer> Ramon: I personally didn't have any issue with debootstrap, the chroot after that was more tricky :P
[11:04] <Arwen> dromer, I believe you're looking for the kqemu-source package
[11:04] <dromer> Arwen: I installed it
[11:05] <Arwen> did you compile it?
[11:05] <dromer> Arwen: er, apt-get installed it .. but I also tried to install from: kqemu-1.3.0pre11.tar.gz
[11:05] <Ramon> dromer: so what should i do.. i mean jsut some guiadance
[11:05] <Arwen> dromer, there's a reason the package is called -source
[11:05] <Arwen> you have to compile it after installation
[11:05] <dromer> Ramon: pfft, I only used it twice now, what was the exact problem again?
[11:06] <Ramon> I need some assistance installing ubuntu... I don't know whats happening but i've been trying debian, and debian based distros like kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu-lite etc... and all of them are giving me "debootstrap" errors when doing the "base installation"
[11:06] <a-865> does kubuntu have other gui package manager besides inept?
[11:06] <Arwen> dromer, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo <--- I believe this page can help you
[11:06] <dromer> Arwen: but I got this during compile af that extracted tar.gz: WARNING: could not find /home/dreamer/Desktop/isoandimg/kqemu-1.3.0pre11/.kqemu-mod.o.cmd for /home/dreamer/Desktop/isoandimg/kqemu-1.3.0pre11/kqemu-mod.o
[11:06] <Arwen> a-865, yes, apt-get
[11:06] <Arwen> dromer, don't ask me....
[11:07] <dromer> Arwen: ah thnx
[11:07] <Arwen> a-865, and also synaptic
[11:07] <Arwen> sorry, I use vmware, lol
[11:07] <a-865> Arwen: inept doesn't seem to know about synaptic
[11:07] <a-865> Arwen: how do you get apt-get into gui mode?
[11:08] <vzduch> apt-get has no gui mode
[11:08] <Arwen> you don't.... GUIs are stupid anyway, what's so hard about "apt-get install blah"?
[11:08] <Arwen> and to get synaptic, that's "apt-get install synaptic"
[11:08] <a-865> Arwen: what's hard is without gui, dunno how to decide what packages need to be added or removed
[11:08] <vzduch> but Synaptic should be installed by default
[11:09] <joe4288> hi im having trouble with azurues
[11:09] <Arwen> a-865, so go install synaptic then
[11:09] <a-865> way too many non-english fonts installed
[11:09] <Arwen> joe4288, oh? what kind of trouble?
[11:09] <a-865> too many fonts == way slow gui
[11:09] <Arwen> (non-english fonts are good, they keep squares from showing up in IRC)
[11:09] <joe4288> Arwen: when i try to start it it will just close out on me agian
[11:10] <Arwen> joe4288, start it from the command line. And if you don't have Java, go install it.
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> !azureus
[11:10] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[11:10] <joe4288> Arwen:  lol i have java
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> there is some troubleshooting there
[11:10] <vzduch> a-865: there is a font manager in the System Settings.. use that to deinstall fonts
[11:11] <joe4288> Arwen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27489/ heres the pastebin of what came up
[11:11] <Evolution2> how can i upgrade my KDE
[11:12] <n8k99> Evolution2: which version do you have\
[11:12] <purpleposeidon> I would really like it if someone could save me, my nethack game depends on it
[11:12] <Evolution2> 3.5.6
[11:12] <Arwen> so you have a java error, woohoo
[11:12] <Evolution2> feisty fawn
[11:12] <n8k99> which version of kubuntu do you have
[11:12] <Evolution2> i have feisty
[11:12] <purpleposeidon> when ever I press left-ctrl-s on a virtual terminal, it freezes
[11:12] <n8k99> there is a repo on kubuntu.org you add to your source.list
[11:12] <vzduch> even Feisty has no more current KDE pkgs than 3.5.6
[11:13] <vzduch> not even in the backports
[11:13] <n8k99> and you can get 3.5.7
[11:13] <Evolution2> yeah
[11:13] <Evolution2> thats what i want
[11:13] <vzduch> (or I haven't found them yet ;))
[11:13] <Evolution2> can you direct me how to please
[11:13] <joe4288> Arwen: you take a look at the postbin?
[11:13] <vzduch> n8k99: which repo?
[11:13] <Arwen> yeah
[11:13] <Arwen> you have a java-related problem (on amd64 no less)
[11:13] <joe4288> Arwen: what do you think?
[11:14] <n8k99> Evolution2: its listed on http://kubuntu.org
[11:14] <Arwen> no idea, I can tell you what I think the problem is, but I don't know any way to fix it
[11:14] <n8k99> or is it .com?
[11:14] <joe4288> Arwen: so then whats my problem :)
[11:14] <Arwen> n8k99, .org. kubuntu.com is a redirect.
[11:14] <rjune__> What's the name of the user manager in ubuntu?
[11:14] <Arwen> joe4288, your problem is java-related, that's all I know, lol
[11:14] <Arwen> rjune__, users-admin I think
[11:15] <eddie> hello, im quite newish to linux.... is there a way to CD in  the terminal to files with spaces in there name
[11:15] <joe4288> lol yea i preaty much figured that out on my own
[11:15] <Arwen> eddie, use quotes
[11:15] <eddie> cheers
[11:15] <rjune__> eddie: use  quotes or a \ before the space
[11:15] <Arwen> or use an interrupt character. e.g. cd File\ Storage
[11:15] <Arwen> that works with dollar signs and other crap to
[11:15] <n8k99> right you are Arwen
[11:15] <vzduch> n8k99: not bad :)  gotta hack my sources.list once more for that
[11:15] <Evolution2> n8k99: so i should just do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list and add one of those repos?
[11:16] <n8k99> yes Evolution2
[11:16] <Evolution2> thanks
[11:16] <vzduch> Evolution2: basically yes, and import the key
[11:16] <n8k99> the the old- update / upgrade trick
[11:16] <Evolution2> thats my problem, i dont know how to "import a key" is or what it means
[11:17] <MaTiAz> What program can edit .raw images? GIMP doesn't seem to do them :|
[11:18] <vzduch> there's lots of examples on the 'net.. should be something like 'gpg --import $filename'
[11:18] <CPUFreak91> How can I tell adept manager to install an older version of a package?
[11:18] <vzduch> I didn't yet figure out what the various options mean that you can put behind the filename.. but 'man gpg' should be able to tell you that
[11:18] <vzduch> followed by 'sudo apt-key add -'
[11:19] <Evolution2> ok
[11:20] <daminator> hi! i want to have IBMgraphics in Nethack. how can i enable them in aterm? i set te option "ibmgraphics" and copied vga.pcf.gz into /etc/X11/fonts/misc
[11:20] <daminator> but in aterm i just se strange letters
[11:20] <daminator> what did i wrong?
[11:21] <illriginal> Does anyone know if you can hide the desktop icons? In Ubuntu?
[11:22] <Evolution2> from the list of those sources
[11:22] <Evolution2> just add one of them or all of them
[11:23] <melkor> Why wouldn't F3 function properly when I am using ssh?
[11:23] <vzduch> one is enough.. sure you can add all
[11:23] <Evolution2> ok
[11:24] <vzduch> melkor: what's F3 supposed to do in ssh?
[11:24] <Evolution2> anywhere on the list right? doesnt matter if its last or anything
[11:24] <melkor> its supposed to quite a mail program that I'm running
[11:24] <vzduch> place doesn't matter
[11:24] <Evolution2> ok
[11:24] <melkor> I ssh into a server and it automatically runs a mail app.
[11:25] <melkor> It says F3 to quit, but F3 doesn't seem to work.
[11:27] <Tenerifedave> question: I have a problem, i cannot here sound in flash in firefox :(
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: http://binnyva.blogspot.com/2006/10/no-sound-in-flash-running-on-firefox-in.html
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: any good?
[11:28] <Tenerifedave> 1 sec i shall tell you :)
[11:28] <a-865> is there some command designed to empty the apt cache?
[11:29] <melkor> apt-get clean
[11:29] <Silver-angeL>  !
[11:29] <Silver-angeL> ,   .     ?
[11:29] <a-865> melkor: thx - I thought it was apt-cache clean :-p
[11:29] <Silver-angeL>  iPod,       
[11:30] <Evolution2> wtf?
[11:30] <Silver-angeL>  ,   
[11:30] <Silver-angeL>  mount 
[11:30] <Tenerifedave> nope still the same i'm afriad ActionParsnip
[11:31] <BluesKaj> !ru | Silver-angeL
[11:31] <ubotu> Silver-angeL:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: http://www.nabble.com/no-sound-with-Flash-9-t3917379.html
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> might be useful
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: backup all files you edit before editing them
[11:32] <Tenerifedave> ok will do
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022 looks prettty sweet
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: Its for ubuntu too :)
[11:35] <Tenerifedave> already done that ActionParsnip
[11:35] <Tenerifedave> didnt make any difference
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: bah
[11:36] <Tenerifedave> its not just for firefox though
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: what else
[11:36] <Tenerifedave> in konqueror its the same
[11:36] <Tenerifedave> all other sounds work fine though
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: are you part of the audio group?
[11:36] <Tenerifedave> just not flash
[11:36] <Tenerifedave> whats that
[11:38] <rajkalyan> help
[11:38] <rajkalyan> darn it dont work
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: its an access group in linux
[11:39] <rajkalyan> how do i register
[11:40] <Evolution2>  vzduch: i dont understand my save the key file?
[11:41] <vzduch> ?
[11:41] <TeraDyne> Does anyone know of a good desktop blogging tool that works with Blogger (the newer blogger system)?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: try typing groups in the konsole
[11:41] <Evolution2>  Save the key file to your local disk Launch Adept Manager from K-Menu->System Choose from the menu Adept->Manage Repositories Click the Authentication tab Click Import Key File... and select the file you saved above Click the Third Party Software tab Add one of the deb lines above Close and click Reload From the Adept toolbar click Full Upgrade then Apply Changes Log out of KDE and back in again once the new version is installed
[11:41] <Evolution2> that is confusing
[11:42] <Tenerifedave> ok ActionParsnip
[11:42] <vzduch> what's confusing about that? it's a step-by-step guide, just follow it.. involves no cmdline, but should work equally well
[11:42] <Tenerifedave> dave adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev lpadmin powerdev admin
[11:42] <steffen> i having problem running counter-strike 1.6 on wine.   it is loading but the game does not start. help?
[11:43] <Tenerifedave> thats what i get back ActionParsnip
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> useradd -G audio <your username>
[11:44] <Tenerifedave> useradd: user dave exists
[11:45] <rajkalyan> useradd:
[11:45] <rajkalyan> useradd: rajkalyan
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: usermod -G audio dave
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: my bad
[11:47] <Tenerifedave> no worries dude
[11:48] <Tenerifedave> usermod: unable to lock password file
[11:48] <Tenerifedave> root?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: then kill all firefoxes and try it
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: yeah sudo it
[11:48] <Tenerifedave> ok
[11:49] <mikeyman77> is 7.04 a big improvement on 6.10?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> mikeyman77: I think so, yes
[11:50] <Tenerifedave> hmmm nope still not working
[11:50] <dromer> how can I see what my hostname on the network is?
[11:51] <dromer> or I mean domain name
[11:51] <dromer> what domain name my network uses
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:52] <Tenerifedave> ok
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: after sudo apt-get update
[11:52] <mikeyman77> ActionParsnip: what version of kde is it using?
[11:54] <Tenerifedave> nope still not having it :(
[11:56] <vzduch> mikeyman77: 3.5.6 by default.. there's an upgrade to 3.5.7 available however
[11:56] <mikeyman77> does the upgrade work coreectly?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: mkdir /tmp/.esd
[11:56] <vzduch> no idea, haven't tried yet
[11:56] <mikeyman77> ok
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Tenerifedave: ln -s /tmp/.esd-1000/socket /tmp/.esd/socket
[11:57] <Tenerifedave> already done that
[11:57] <vzduch> esd? o0
[11:57] <mikeyman77> thanks
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76743.html
[11:59] <aaroncampbell> I had to re-do a bunch of network stuff on my system, and now it seems that samba isn't working quite right.  I can access \\192.168.2.1 from a windows computer, but not \\aaron (which is what I used to use)
[11:59] <aaroncampbell> I've been told it's a WINS problem, but where would I look to handle this?
[11:59] <kubuntian> hello everybody
[12:00] <kubuntian> i have 2 machines A B where A is a windows XP machine with default user: "Amanda" and B is a kubuntu edgy with main user "Andrea"
[12:01] <kubuntian> suppose now that i want to access B from A, do i need to create the user "Amanda" and then add it to the allow list of Samba configured on B?
[12:01] <Schuenemann> is it possible to edit konqueror's preview for specific file types?
[12:01] <kubuntian> The problem is that if i search for computers on MSHOME i can see correctly B but when i click on it, it tells me i don't have permission to access
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> kubuntian: easier to run an ftp server
[12:02] <kubuntian> ActionParsnip: i do need to use samba
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> kubuntian: but yeah i think you need to allow the computer access on the Kubuntu side
[12:03] <kubuntian> how?
[12:03] <kubuntian> i basic setup samba in "share mode"
[12:03] <kubuntian> browse free until a resource is actually demanded
[12:11] <jhutchins> kubuntian: You're not aaroncampbell, are you?
[12:11] <jhutchins> kubuntian: Heh.
[12:11] <kubuntian> no
[12:12] <jhutchins> kubuntian: You need to enable WINS support on your samba server.  Windows Internet Naming Service.
[12:12] <aaroncampbell> no he's not, but that set off my pager
[12:12] <kubuntian> what does that mean?
[12:12] <jhutchins> kubuntian: That'll take care of the IP resolution problem.
[12:12] <kubuntian> that every Windows account will have access?
[12:12] <aaroncampbell> kubuntian: I'm having samba problems too
[12:12] <jhutchins> kubuntian: No, it just fixes the IP vs. hostname problem.
[12:12] <aaroncampbell> Also WINS related.
[12:13] <jhutchins> kubuntian: As far as the accounts having access, we'd have to stomp through the setup, but generally your logs should tell you why access is being denied.
[12:13] <jhutchins> kubuntian: Unless you allow guest access, every windows user must also have an account on the samba server.
[12:13] <kubuntian> do i need to create a UNIX account for the WINS account and then add it to the samba allowed?
[12:14] <aaroncampbell> However, I'm been googling about it to no avail.  I can't get SWAT to work, and any search for kubuntu with the word "wins" tends to turn up "Kubuntu vs Mandriva: Kubuntu Wins!"
[12:14] <aaroncampbell> etc
[12:14] <kubuntian> mhh
[12:14] <jhutchins> kubuntian: I believe you must create an smbpasswd for each user; I think they may not need a full UNIX accoutn.
[12:14] <kubuntian> well, i saw a wins entry in etc/samba
[12:14] <Tenerifedave> well I still cannot get flash audio to work in firefox :(
[12:15] <kubuntian> jhutchins: mhh, smbpasswd is to MODIFY the samba passwords
[12:15] <kubuntian> not to create, isn't it?
[12:16] <jhutchins> wins support = yes