| mvo | pitti: any eta for -desktop yet? | 12:12 |
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| pitti | mvo: 10 minutes, I'd say | 12:13 |
| mvo | pitti: ROCK! | 12:13 |
| pitti | mvo: live image finished building 30 seconds ago, building iso now | 12:13 |
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| gnomefreak | is compiz enabled by default in gutsy with nvidia drivers? | 12:14 |
| Kmos | i think it is | 12:14 |
| pitti | mvo: ^ good question: what happens now if I enable nvidia after installing with nv? will it switch over to compiz or keep metacity? | 12:14 |
| mvo | gnomefreak: we currently try to archive this, but nvidia will not be the default, it will be "nv" | 12:15 |
| gnomefreak | that would explain the crash than | 12:15 |
| mvo | pitti: it will switch to compiz (that is our default wm) | 12:15 |
| Kmos | gnomefreak :) | 12:15 |
| pitti | mvo: ah, ok | 12:15 |
| mvo | gnomefreak: oh? | 12:15 |
| gnomefreak | its hard to diagnose a freezing issue with it enabled. | 12:15 |
| pitti | gnomefreak: please test the new images, they should have that fixed | 12:16 |
| mvo | gnomefreak: you use the nvidia driver and it freezes for you? do you have the latest (~10 minutes ago) packages for compiz and plugins-main? | 12:16 |
| gnomefreak | i sent a crash to gnome-appearance-properties and it crashed compiz | 12:16 |
| mvo | gnomefreak: can you give me the bugnumber please? | 12:16 |
| gnomefreak | pitti: i have newest in repos | 12:16 |
| gnomefreak | mvo: apport is lazy tonight it didnt file one said it couldnt | 12:16 |
| gnomefreak | error was This problem report is damaged and cannot be processed | 12:17 |
| gnomefreak | i will try again | 12:17 |
| mvo | the very latest is really very fresh :) | 12:17 |
| gnomefreak | as of maybe an hour ago | 12:18 |
| gnomefreak | 1:0.5.1+git20070621-0ubuntu3? | 12:18 |
| Kmos | mvo: bug 122330 | 12:18 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122330 in gnome-control-center "[Gutsy] Gnome Appearance windows freezes and fails to finish loading " [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122330 | 12:18 |
| heno | pitti: is that 'server' for edubuntu? | 12:18 |
| pitti | heno, mvo, all: new ubuntu live images are up (20070626.2), please test | 12:18 |
| mvo | gnomefreak: then please try again, I think it was made available ~15min ago | 12:18 |
| gnomefreak | k | 12:18 |
| pitti | heno: which server? | 12:18 |
| mvo | Kmos: thanks! | 12:18 |
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| heno | pitti: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/20070626.2/ Edubuntu doesn't have an 'alternate' | 12:19 |
| pitti | heno: ah, right; yes, that's the server install CD | 12:20 |
| mvo | Kmos, gnomefreak: that freeze in #122330 is with the "nv" driver? or the "nvidia" one? | 12:20 |
| heno | pitti: ok, thanks | 12:20 |
| gnomefreak | nvidia | 12:20 |
| mvo | oh :/ | 12:20 |
| mvo | hrm | 12:20 |
| mjg59 | So, uh, why is hal-device-manager in system/preferences? | 12:21 |
| mjg59 | It can't actually change anything | 12:21 |
| gnomefreak | mvo: i sent kill sig to it again compiz didnt crash this time :( but apport is working now | 12:21 |
| gnomefreak | mvo: just got newest ones updating now ty | 12:21 |
| pitti | mjg59: right, it should be somewhere else, or not installed at all | 12:21 |
| mvo | gnomefreak: cool, thanks. lets see how that goes :) | 12:21 |
| mjg59 | pitti: Ok, not just me then:) | 12:22 |
| gnomefreak | mvo: will let you know ty | 12:22 |
| pitti | mjg59: it has been there since warty, though | 12:22 |
| pitti | mjg59: at least there is hope, h-d-m has been dropped upstream, and replaced by gnome-device-manager which can actually *do* stuff :) | 12:22 |
| mvo | pitti: alternative install works at least in vmware, testing -desktop on real hw now | 12:23 |
| pitti | Xubuntu freaks, heno: new xubuntu alternates are up (20070626.1), please test | 12:23 |
| mvo | pitti: that means the previous crash on login is fixed | 12:23 |
| pitti | mvo: hm, my alternate is at 71%; I want your fast hard disks :) | 12:24 |
| mvo | heh :) | 12:24 |
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| Riddell | heno: seen this ubuntu windows installer? http://wubi-installer.org/ | 12:28 |
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| heno | Riddell: yes, it's a gutsy goal | 12:29 |
| evand | Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallerForWindows | 12:30 |
| Riddell | heno: who's doing it? | 12:31 |
| heno | Riddell: community members in the forums | 12:31 |
| Riddell | impressive | 12:31 |
| heno | pitti: please include bdmurray in your build pings. He's got tracker admin powers now | 12:32 |
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| heno | Riddell: yeah it could rock if it matures in time | 12:32 |
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| mvo | pitti: tribe-2 with compiz on ati r200 works here very nicely | 12:35 |
| pitti | heno: will do | 12:35 |
| pitti | mvo: live session in vmware is good here | 12:35 |
| bdmurray | pitti: thanks | 12:35 |
| pygi | bdmurray, could we discuss my application to -qa pls? :) | 12:36 |
| Kmos | how about to delete http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20070624/ | 12:36 |
| Kmos | and 25 | 12:36 |
| pygi | I solved thousand of bugs already :P | 12:36 |
| pitti | heno, bdmurray, fabbione, *: new ubuntu server images up (20070626) | 12:36 |
| pitti | heno, bdmurray: that covers the alternates; I'll build the ports now | 12:37 |
| bdmurray | pygi: a bit busy at the moment | 12:37 |
| heno | pitti: looks like I've goofed the ubuntu alternate .2 postings | 12:38 |
| heno | posted them under the wrong milestone and there is no way to recover from that in the tracker :( | 12:38 |
| pitti | heno: how so? wrong number for xubuntu and server? | 12:39 |
| heno | pitti: correct number 20070626.2 for ubuntu alt, but wrong milestone. now I'm blocked from posting another 20070626.2 ubuntu alt | 12:40 |
| pitti | heno: erk; so stgraber needs to poke an UPDATE sql at the right spot now? | 12:41 |
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| pitti | evand: hm, ubiquity translations are a lot worse than they used to be | 12:42 |
| mvo | pitti: -desktop works on nvidia based system here too (uses metacity unless I enable nvidia the apperance capplet - that has some glitches though) | 12:43 |
| heno | pitti: except he seems to have gone off to sleep | 12:43 |
| heno | (wisely) | 12:43 |
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| pitti | heno: for ubuntu I only see 'server' ones; is that what you mean by 'goofed'? alternates not showing up? | 12:45 |
| heno | pitti: yes. I can make them appear as 20070626-2 (with a - instead of a .)to allow for test results to be posted, but the download links won't work | 12:48 |
| evand | hrm | 12:49 |
| pitti | heno, bdmurray, Riddell, LongPointyStick: kubuntu lives are up (20070626.2) | 12:49 |
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| evand | pitti: can you elaborate on that? | 12:50 |
| pitti | heno: hm, I don't see download links anywhere anyway? | 12:50 |
| pygi | heno, manual sql intervention? | 12:51 |
| pitti | evand: just that a lot of strings appear in English now which used to be in German (like the user name/login/password mask) | 12:51 |
| heno | pitti: click the ISO icon | 12:51 |
| pitti | aah, I see | 12:51 |
| evand | odd, I don't remember that changing, but then again I didn't do the user-setup merge. I'll look into it after dinner. | 12:52 |
| Riddell | pitti: thanks | 12:52 |
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| pitti | heno: hm, let's do the 26-2 trick then, so that they at least appear; I'll try to add symlinks on cdimage | 12:55 |
| pitti | heno: that affects ubuntu alternate? ubuntu desktop and kubuntu alt/live as well? | 12:56 |
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| pitti | heno: I guess it's better if you do the change first, and then I'll do the necessary symlinks | 12:56 |
| pitti | gnomefreak: hmm, apport crashing on reporting a compiz crash? great | 12:57 |
| gnomefreak | lol | 12:57 |
| gnomefreak | there is no compiz crash file | 12:57 |
| gnomefreak | but no such file or dir for the above | 12:57 |
| mvo | gnomefreak: so the upgrade did not fix the crash? | 12:57 |
| gnomefreak | mvo: hard to tell since there is no crash for compiz | 12:57 |
| mvo | gnomefreak: I mean, when you enable it, do you get a working compiz? or does it not work or hang? | 12:58 |
| gnomefreak | mvo: i didnt enable it i just logged in | 12:58 |
| gnomefreak | what would session name be for it? | 12:58 |
| gnomefreak | ill see if its enabled | 12:59 |
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| mvo | gnomefreak: please go to system/preferences/appreance and there to the desktop effects tab | 12:59 |
| gnomefreak | mvo: yeah that again | 12:59 |
| gnomefreak | if it works now ill let you know | 12:59 |
| gnomefreak | otherwise nothing i can do | 12:59 |
| mvo | 'k | 12:59 |
| gnomefreak | its still freezing | 01:00 |
| heno | pitti: never mind bdmurray saved the day by figuring out how to fix it :) | 01:00 |
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| mvo | gnomefreak: hm, no good :/ | 01:01 |
| pitti | bdmurray: *big hug* | 01:01 |
| heno | the tracker actually has the functionality to fix it, it's just a bit awkward | 01:01 |
| gnomefreak | mvo: agreed i was looking to disable it so maybe gnome-appearance-properties wouldnt freeze | 01:02 |
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| pitti | heno, bdmurray: kubuntu doesn't have any images, is that a tracker bug? or haven't they been added so far? | 01:03 |
| bdmurray | pitti: haven't been added yet we were sorting out the other issue | 01:04 |
| bdmurray | I'm on it though | 01:04 |
| pitti | ah, ok | 01:04 |
| bdmurray | pitti: done | 01:05 |
| gnomefreak | we need another way to get into desktop-effects settings :( | 01:06 |
| pitti | ah, I see the kdesktops now (no kalternates yet) | 01:06 |
| pitti | so, amd64 ubuntu alternate+desktop work fine now in vmware | 01:06 |
| pitti | gnomefreak: that's in Preferences -> Appearance now | 01:06 |
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| pitti | I'll try the live CD on real hardware now, brb | 01:07 |
| gnomefreak | its freezing | 01:07 |
| gnomefreak | i cant get in it | 01:07 |
| pitti | gnomefreak: hm, even with the current CDs? | 01:07 |
| pitti | gnomefreak: ah, nevermind, that's in an installed system, right? | 01:07 |
| gnomefreak | yes | 01:07 |
| pitti | bummer | 01:07 |
| pitti | anyway, brb | 01:08 |
| gnomefreak | yay i managed to crash compiz | 01:08 |
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| shawarma | Is Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 free enough for us? | 01:17 |
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| tarzeau | shawarma: which one exactly? | 01:18 |
| shawarma | http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/ | 01:18 |
| shawarma | http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary.html says no :( | 01:19 |
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| tarzeau | shawarma: do you want to use this license? | 01:19 |
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| shawarma | tarzeau: No, I want to distribute something that is already under it. | 01:19 |
| elmo | shawarma: cc-by-sa is free enough for us | 01:19 |
| tarzeau | shawarma: talk to whoever used the license | 01:20 |
| shawarma | elmo: Cool. Then why not for Debian? | 01:20 |
| pitti | mvo: how does things look for you? | 01:20 |
| pitti | mvo: I managed to enable nvidia in the live system (on real hw now); vmware installs went fine for me | 01:20 |
| elmo | oh, that's by, not by-sa | 01:21 |
| mvo | pitti: pretty good, I got two random crashes but that might be HW (CD disc) - but nothing that looks like compiz breakage | 01:21 |
| shawarma | elmo: So it's a no-go after all? | 01:21 |
| shawarma | elmo: (the docs I'm looking at are just by) | 01:21 |
| mvo | pitti: tested on ati r200 (working compiz), nvidia (works, but appreance capplet has some glitches), and r500 ati (vesa, no breakage, metacity is used then) | 01:22 |
| elmo | shawarma: by is no good for us either | 01:22 |
| mvo | oh, and a s3virge :) | 01:22 |
| pitti | mvo: sounds good | 01:22 |
| Burgundavia | shawarma: we already distribute CC stuff in main. ubuntu-doc is dual licensed GFDL and CC by sa | 01:22 |
| elmo | shawarma: and we're not Debian - we don't always follow their license choices | 01:22 |
| shawarma | elmo: Alright. If I can convince them to use cc-by-sa instead, it's all good? | 01:22 |
| elmo | Burgundavia: we distribute by-sa, plain by is not ok | 01:23 |
| elmo | shawarma: yes | 01:23 |
| pitti | evand: hm, when I select 'manual partitioning' I get eternal hang | 01:23 |
| shawarma | elmo: Wicked. Thanks. | 01:23 |
| Burgundavia | elmo: right | 01:23 |
| mvo | pitti: yes, quite encouraging so far | 01:24 |
| pitti | mvo: even n-m worked reasonably \o/ | 01:25 |
| pitti | if ubiquity would actually work now (with manual), that would be uber-cool | 01:25 |
| Kmos | good night | 01:26 |
| mjr | elmo, umm, why not plain by if by-sa is ok? | 01:27 |
| elmo | mjr: because by doesn't give permission to modify? | 01:27 |
| mjr | elmo, you're thinking by-nd | 01:27 |
| shawarma | elmo: http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary.html says cc-by-sa is not ok for Debian for the same reasons that cc-by isn't. | 01:28 |
| elmo | mjr: that's possible, the CC license rabbit like proliferation gives me a headache | 01:28 |
| shawarma | :) | 01:28 |
| elmo | ok, so having actually read the license, mjr's right and I'm on crack | 01:29 |
| elmo | shawarma: so both cc-by and cc-by-sa are fine, and I'm going away now | 01:29 |
| shawarma | ..so I'm supposed to try and convince them to use.. what? cc-by-nd? | 01:29 |
| mc44 | no! | 01:29 |
| mc44 | :) | 01:29 |
| shawarma | Ah, the other way around? | 01:29 |
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| mjr | shawarma, either by or by-sa. nd or nc are no-nos | 01:30 |
| shawarma | Is there anything in particular that makes it alright for us but not for Debian, or is it just debian-legal being overly pedantic? | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | by is attribution, sa is share alike (copyleft), nd is no derivative | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | nc is non-commercial | 01:30 |
| shawarma | Ah. nd sounds bad :) | 01:31 |
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| mjr | shawarma, it is a somewhat pedantic issue; overly is a matter of taste | 01:32 |
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| mjr | it's _good_ that d-l is pedantic | 01:32 |
| mjr | somebody needs to be | 01:32 |
| shawarma | True that. | 01:33 |
| elmo | bear in mind that debian-legal don't actually represent the decision making body when it comes to making license choices for Debian | 01:33 |
| pygi | it mostly gives advices | 01:34 |
| pygi | afaik | 01:34 |
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| shawarma | I see. | 01:38 |
| LaserJock | elmo: who is? do GRs like in the case of GFDL represent a decision? | 01:39 |
| elmo | LaserJock: certainly | 01:39 |
| elmo | LaserJock: but day to day it's the ftp-masters processing packages through NEW that actually matter - debian-legal is just a mailing list | 01:40 |
| pitti | evand: hm, I tried it a second time now, with reformatting my test ntfs with ext3; still hangs at manual | 01:40 |
| elmo | LaserJock: (disclaimer: I'm not exactly unbiased ;-) | 01:40 |
| LaserJock | elmo: of course | 01:41 |
| StevenK | pitti: MIR for OpenAL updated, FreeAlut getting done now. | 01:41 |
| LaserJock | elmo: but I found it odd when you were essentially ftp-master in both Debian and Ubuntu, did you pretty much view things the same, or did you use different criteria | 01:41 |
| pitti | evand: dang -- when I start it with "UBIQUITY_DEBUG=1 sudo ubiquity", it works; yay heisenbug | 01:42 |
| pitti | StevenK: cheers | 01:42 |
| elmo | LaserJock: different critteria - Ubuntu has it's license policies which I applied when processing it's NEW, and I applied Debian's when processing Debian NEW | 01:42 |
| LaserJock | but who makes the Ubuntu license policy? | 01:43 |
| elmo | LaserJock: I've no idea anymore? :) | 01:43 |
| lifeless | TB | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | I've never seen anything written. | 01:43 |
| elmo | there use to be some stuff on the old website | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | I just wonder if it's sort of historical/traditional | 01:43 |
| elmo | not sure if it survived the crackpalization | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | perhaps not | 01:43 |
| elmo | LaserJock: some of it certainly was - discussed at Oxford type stuff | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | I've searched around for it | 01:43 |
| LaserJock | the only real differences I've see where GFDL and CC | 01:44 |
| LaserJock | *were | 01:44 |
| elmo | yes, that's the principal difference, Ubuntu's more liberal approach to non-source code type stuff | 01:44 |
| elmo | documentation, fonts, firmware, images, sounds, etc. | 01:45 |
| LaserJock | right | 01:45 |
| Pici | RobNyc: I believe its called "Main Menu" in the panel add dialog, and does not have the ubuntu icon | 01:46 |
| pitti | bdmurray, ogra: edubuntu live is up (20070627) | 01:46 |
| Pici | Sorry about that, switched windows in the middle of typing. | 01:46 |
| StevenK | pitti: freealut also done. | 01:47 |
| pitti | bdmurray: btw, ubuntu doesn't have desktops on isotesting yet | 01:47 |
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| bdmurray | pitti: should be all set now | 01:49 |
| StevenK | pitti: Let me know if the two MIRs are now suitable, if you're still looking at them. | 01:50 |
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| pitti | bdmurray: yay; ETA for xubuntu is ~ 15 minutes (will be 20070627, too) | 01:51 |
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| bdmurray | pitti: strange future numbers | 01:52 |
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| pitti | bdmurray: BST :) | 01:58 |
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| gnomefreak | i found the cause of gnome-appearance-properties freezing | 01:59 |
| gnomefreak | its freezing due to gnome-themes-extras | 01:59 |
| gnomefreak | if i uninstall it appearance crashes | 01:59 |
| LaserJock | pitti: I'm testing 20070627 Edubuntu live in vmware now | 02:01 |
| pitti | LaserJock: thanks; please report the results on isotesting | 02:03 |
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| pitti | bdmurray: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20070627/ is finally there | 02:11 |
| LaserJock | ok, I"m having the same problem as with 20070626.1 | 02:12 |
| LaserJock | it won't login in vmware | 02:12 |
| LaserJock | it just has this endless cycle or reloading gdm | 02:12 |
| LaserJock | s/or/of/ | 02:12 |
| StevenK | LaserJock: Does it kill X? | 02:12 |
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| LaserJock | I think so | 02:12 |
| LaserJock | it kicks it back to console | 02:12 |
| LaserJock | then it tries to login, then dies | 02:12 |
| LaserJock | and it'll do it indefinately until I turn it off | 02:13 |
| pitti | LaserJock: which graphics card? | 02:13 |
| LaserJock | well, it's vmware on an intel imac with an ATI card | 02:13 |
| bdmurray | pitti: what does that leave? | 02:13 |
| pitti | bdmurray: supported arches and all derivatives are done | 02:14 |
| pitti | bdmurray: ports alternates are built, too, DVDs are running over (my) night, will build the ports/lives later | 02:14 |
| pitti | bdmurray: my live install on real hw was quite mixed: hanging ubiquity when doing manual partitioning, hanging splash screen, no logout dialog, hmm | 02:15 |
| LaserJock | StevenK, pitti: is this a known issue? ogra thought it was | 02:15 |
| pitti | LaserJock: it was actually be supposed to be fixed on latest images | 02:15 |
| pitti | LaserJock: I had the same and it worked for me now | 02:15 |
| pitti | LaserJock: can you please file a bug against compiz, assign to mvo, and milestone it for tribe-2? | 02:16 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I'll rsync again just to make sure I'm actually updated | 02:16 |
| pitti | LaserJock: please include your setup and milestone versoin | 02:16 |
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| LaserJock | pitti: compiz??? | 02:16 |
| pitti | LaserJock: yes, it shouldn't enable itself on the vmware driver | 02:16 |
| StevenK | LaserJock: Yes, compiz checks for GL, glxinfo segvs and the server dies. | 02:17 |
| pitti | LaserJock: on some drivers, glxinfo causes X to crash, and those are blacklisted | 02:17 |
| wasabi | Hmm. So compiz is going to be on by defalt on some select cards? | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | hmm, when I login with ubuntu (not let it automatically login) I see a flash of a "Could not load gnome-settings-daemon" error | 02:17 |
| pitti | bdmurray: I need to get some sleep :/ can you have an eye on critical stuff and milestone those bugs? | 02:17 |
| Fujitsu | wasabi: By default except for those that are blacklisted.; | 02:17 |
| wasabi | Eww. Is ati blacklisted? :) | 02:18 |
| Fujitsu | (or just don't support composite) | 02:18 |
| pitti | wasabi: ati isn't; that uses glxinfo capability detection | 02:18 |
| wasabi | I can't think of any drivers except maybe the intels in a state where I'd enable something like that by default. =/ | 02:18 |
| wasabi | My ATI, with the closed source drivers, is not stable for more than a day with it. | 02:18 |
| wasabi | err, with teh OPEN source drivers. | 02:18 |
| wasabi | The closed ones barely last 5 minutes. ;) | 02:18 |
| wasabi | Where is said list? | 02:19 |
| bdmurray | pitti: milestone for tribe 3? | 02:19 |
| pitti | bdmurray: the real blockers for tribe2 | 02:20 |
| bdmurray | pitti: yeah, I thought out it harder. ;) Yes, I'll keep an eye out this evening | 02:21 |
| pitti | bdmurray: thanks | 02:22 |
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| pitti | good night everyone | 02:23 |
| bdmurray | pitti: night | 02:23 |
| pitti | bdmurray: I'll file bugs for my installation issues tomorrow and will discuss them with Seb and evand; just cannot keep my eyes open any more | 02:23 |
| LaserJock | bdmurray: ok, I reported my Edubuntu LiveCD issue as bug #122459 . I'm not sure if any more is needed | 02:36 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122459 in compiz "[gutsy] cannot log in on edubuntu DesktopCD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122459 | 02:36 |
| TheMuso | /c | 02:37 |
| TheMuso | uuugh | 02:37 |
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| bdmurray | LaserJock: looking | 02:40 |
| bdmurray | LaserJock: is that amd64 or i386? | 02:41 |
| LaserJock | oh, sorry, I was using i386 CD | 02:41 |
| bdmurray | LaserJock: no problem I updated it | 02:42 |
| LaserJock | thanks | 02:43 |
| LaserJock | anything else? | 02:43 |
| LaserJock | I'm about to head home, I'll try it there too | 02:43 |
| bdmurray | not that I can think of I'm going to try and recreate it | 02:43 |
| LaserJock | ok, bbiab | 02:44 |
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| desrt | mmm hoteles silken | 03:16 |
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| bdmurray | LaserJock: I'm unable to reproduce that bug | 03:38 |
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| sbalneav | evening | 03:47 |
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| ajmitch | hello sbalneav | 03:48 |
| someone2005 | I've got evolution installed and seems my mail go's into the outbox instead of sent...Any Ideas ? | 03:48 |
| wasabi | oh cool so im going to this live thing | 03:52 |
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| LaserJock | bdmurray: same things happens on my Ubuntu vmware :( | 03:54 |
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| LaserJock | bdmurray: did you try it in vmware? | 04:10 |
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| bdmurray | LaserJock: yes, I did | 04:14 |
| bdmurray | LaserJock: Do you know if vmware video drivers change? | 04:15 |
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| LaserJock | bdmurray: I have no idea | 04:29 |
| LaserJock | but the two systems I tried on where completely different | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | morning all | 04:29 |
| sbalneav | Morning Hobbsee | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:29 |
| LaserJock | one was intel iMac with ATI video, second was Ubuntu PC with nvidia video | 04:29 |
| LaserJock | different versions of vmware (vmware fusion on the mac and vmware server on Ubuntu) | 04:30 |
| LaserJock | different .isos | 04:30 |
| LaserJock | unless I totally messed up the rsync | 04:30 |
| LaserJock | but I'm pretty sure I got the right one | 04:30 |
| bryce | heya Hobbsee | 04:31 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | bryce: how goes X? | 04:32 |
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| bryce | Hobbsee: I have a theory on what happened. I notice the xorg package causes generation of libgl* debs when pbuilding it. I was doing pbuilds of xorg and mesa around the same time, so suspect the build of the former got mixed with the build of the latter | 04:33 |
| Hobbsee | bryce: ahhh..... | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | bryce: but they still shouldnt be producing the same binaries | 04:34 |
| bryce | anyway, I decided to do one thing at a time. ;-) I got the xorg stuff done today, and will focus on mesa tomorrow | 04:35 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | bryce: that versoin that i had is working, if you wanted to upload it anyway | 04:36 |
| Hobbsee | or if you wanted me to | 04:36 |
| bryce | yes, that would be great! | 04:36 |
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| Hobbsee | bryce: you dont want more changes? | 04:39 |
| bryce | ok, I've been at this since 6 this morning and my brain is mush | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | bryce: btw - did you look at what my changes even were? :) | 04:39 |
| bryce | you mean the +Conflicts? | 04:41 |
| bryce | I looked at the diff but haven't had a chance to test them on my own system | 04:41 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 04:44 |
| bdmurray | LaserJock: did you verify the md5sum ? | 04:44 |
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| Hobbsee | bryce: uploading | 04:57 |
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| bdmurray | LaserJock: Which version of VMWare is it? | 05:10 |
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| fabbione | morning guys | 05:36 |
| === StevenK waves to fabbione | ||
| Hobbsee | morning fabbione! you're up early! | 05:37 |
| fabbione | yeah i couldn't sleep today | 05:37 |
| ajmitch | mornign fabbione | 05:37 |
| Hobbsee | :( | 05:37 |
| === fabbione isn't very happy about that | ||
| StevenK | fabbione: Oh, I assumed it was your walking/crawling alarm clock. | 05:38 |
| fabbione | StevenK: i am one hour earlier than usual | 05:38 |
| mneptok | fabbione: please try not to wake me when you get out of bed early. :/ | 05:40 |
| mneptok | now come back here and let's snuggle. | 05:40 |
| === StevenK smirks. | ||
| fabbione | mneptok: yeah i wish... i can't fall back to sleep once i wake up in the morning | 05:41 |
| StevenK | fabbione: Try harder, I can. :-) | 05:41 |
| mneptok | fabbione: the thorazine is on the second shelf of the medicine cabinet. | 05:42 |
| fabbione | StevenK: it did never work | 05:42 |
| fabbione | mneptok: ehe | 05:42 |
| StevenK | Thorazine doesn't help you sleep, though... | 05:43 |
| mneptok | StevenK: you're doing it wrong. | 05:44 |
| ScottK | Ativan injections will have you asleep in less than a minute, guaranteed. | 05:47 |
| StevenK | mneptok: Based on wikipedia, Thorazine is used for schizophrenia and | 05:48 |
| StevenK | short term management of severe anxiety. | 05:48 |
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| mneptok | StevenK: the voices in my head disagree | 05:52 |
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| StevenK | Hah | 05:52 |
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| Hobbsee | keescook: seriously, you rock. | 06:03 |
| === ScottK agrees, but is curious why now particularly? | ||
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| Hobbsee | ScottK: he wrote a greasemonkey script, so you can add whichever predefined responses you like, and it'll change statuses, etc, on launchpad | 06:07 |
| shadeofgrey | Greetings. I know I font belong here - i just have one question -- is their optomism that the next version will be easier to install on macbookpro's with ati video cards? thus far i havent been able to get definitive answers as to how one goes about installing edgy on previously stated hardware | 06:07 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 06:07 |
| ScottK | shadeofgrey: You do know there is a newer release than Edgy, right? | 06:08 |
| shadeofgrey | ScottK, no i didnt | 06:08 |
| shadeofgrey | ScottK, is it easier to install onb intel macs with ati video cards? | 06:08 |
| shadeofgrey | if so we should probably speak in private. im probably already in trouble with the channel bosses for showing up here in the first place | 06:09 |
| ScottK | shadeofgrey: Since I have neither an intel mac, nor an ati video card I have no idea. I'd suggest give it a try. | 06:09 |
| shadeofgrey | where do i acquiure what you speak of? | 06:09 |
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| ScottK | shadeofgrey: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download | 06:11 |
| shadeofgrey | all i see is 6.06 and 7.04 | 06:12 |
| StevenK | shadeofgrey: Edgy is 6.10, which isn't there. That should be a hint. | 06:14 |
| StevenK | shadeofgrey: You'd want to try 7.04 | 06:14 |
| shadeofgrey | oh | 06:14 |
| shadeofgrey | ive already tried 7.04 -- wont work | 06:16 |
| shadeofgrey | thanks anyhow | 06:16 |
| shadeofgrey | sorry to disturb you guys | 06:16 |
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| TheMuso | I've seen him in #ubuntu-accessibility before. | 06:17 |
| StevenK | No bug, no reason, no nothing. Sigh. | 06:17 |
| Hobbsee | iirc he used to be a dev. or at least in here. | 06:18 |
| Hobbsee | he's not new, for a start. | 06:18 |
| superm1 | TheMuso, ping. | 06:19 |
| TheMuso | superm1: Hey. | 06:19 |
| TheMuso | superm1: Sorry, I got sidetracked. I may get a chance to look in a bi. | 06:19 |
| TheMuso | bit | 06:19 |
| superm1 | TheMuso, ah okay :) | 06:19 |
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| keescook | Hobbsee: heheh. thanks! I blame it all on Mithrandir, though; he wrote the original stuff -- I just felt like hurting myself and learning some more javascript. :) | 06:53 |
| fabbione | does anybody remember the url for isotesting? | 06:53 |
| Hobbsee | oh well, thanks to tfheen too | 06:54 |
| Hobbsee | fabbione: isotester.stgrabber.org, offhand | 06:54 |
| fabbione | nope.... | 06:54 |
| Hobbsee | https://isotesting.stgraber.org/ | 06:55 |
| Hobbsee | The first Tribe-2 candidates are now available for testing. You can find | 06:55 |
| Hobbsee | download links, md5 sums and report results on the ISO tracker: | 06:55 |
| Hobbsee | https://isotesting.stgraber.org | 06:55 |
| Hobbsee | Please help us find the nasty bugs early in the cycle so we can focus on | 06:55 |
| Hobbsee | polish closer to release :) For alpha releases we recommend the short | 06:55 |
| fabbione | yeps.. i already have test results | 06:55 |
| Hobbsee | testing procedure: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Short | 06:55 |
| fabbione | thanks :) | 06:55 |
| Hobbsee | Also see: | 06:55 |
| Hobbsee | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Community/Procedures | 06:55 |
| Hobbsee | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Community/ReportingResults | 06:55 |
| Hobbsee | Thanks! | 06:55 |
| Hobbsee | Henrik | 06:55 |
| Hobbsee | are we actually testing these, for final? i havent read backscroll | 06:56 |
| Hobbsee | as in, do these have network mangler fixes? | 06:56 |
| fabbione | Hobbsee: not sure.. i am only testing -server iso's | 06:56 |
| Hobbsee | .2...they probably are. will look later | 06:56 |
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| KrakensDen | so I just started testing gutsy, and it's constantly accessing my cdrom drive | 07:29 |
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| KrakensDen | any ideas for what is responsible? | 07:30 |
| KrakensDen | kernel? hal? | 07:30 |
| stgraber | asac: ping | 07:31 |
| Amaranth | KrakensDen: probably hal-addon-storage | 07:32 |
| Amaranth | KrakensDen: but this really isn't the right place for this discussion | 07:32 |
| KrakensDen | Amaranth, where then? | 07:32 |
| KrakensDen | Amaranth, I hate filing bugs without a target | 07:32 |
| Amaranth | #ubuntu+1 or a bug on launchpad | 07:32 |
| KrakensDen | Amaranth, ok, thank you | 07:32 |
| Amaranth | I would say it's hal-addon-storage poking to see if you put a CD in | 07:33 |
| KrakensDen | indeed: hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/scd0 (every 2 sec) | 07:34 |
| Amaranth | sounds about right | 07:34 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:45 |
| stgraber | morning dholbach | 07:47 |
| Hobbsee | hiya stgraber | 07:47 |
| dholbach | hi stgraber | 07:47 |
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| stgraber | Looks like henrik had some problems moving a build from one Milestone to another :), we really should write a doc ... (but it seems he finally found how to do so) | 07:48 |
| stgraber | oh, funny the isolist isn't sorted correctly on the tracker, it's sorted by version instead of the distribution ... | 07:50 |
| stgraber | fixed :) | 07:51 |
| shenki | is 20070626.2 known to fail at install (desktop, i386)? | 07:53 |
| stgraber | nobody tested the install (at least no results were posted on the tracker) | 07:56 |
| shenki | stgraber: ok. that's the best place to report a failed install these days, or is opening a bug a better idea? | 07:57 |
| fabbione | shenki: file a bug.. | 07:58 |
| shenki | ok | 07:58 |
| fabbione | and make sure the iso tracker will reflect that | 07:58 |
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| stgraber | shenki: the right way is to file a bug, put a FAIL result on the tracker with the bugnumber and set it to critical (as you can't install) | 07:59 |
| shenki | thanks | 08:01 |
| stgraber | argh, it's time for me to leave you and go to this really useful school day :) (doing pretty much nothing than watching DVDs ...) | 08:02 |
| stgraber | see you all later | 08:02 |
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| shenki | ahh, i love you too launchpad | 08:06 |
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| shenki | timeouts :( no bug report for me | 08:07 |
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| enrico | Riddell: I need help with adept's build system: I'm trying a clean rebuild with the patched version (using http://www.enricozini.org/store/adept.patch.gz) but the build system isn't building the .moc files anymore | 08:13 |
| enrico | Riddell: I just can't find out why | 08:13 |
| fabbione | hi enrico | 08:13 |
| enrico | Riddell: there's a few more minimal patches on top of that (some leftover LIBTAGCOLL_DEFS to remove) | 08:13 |
| fabbione | enrico: we had some issues libept on sparc. the testsuite BusError | 08:14 |
| fabbione | enrico: strange thing is that if you run it manually works.. but from within the test script no. | 08:14 |
| fabbione | enrico: if you want i can provide you with access to sparc | 08:14 |
| enrico | Riddell: and it builds with libapt-front at svn://svn.debian.org/libapt-front/0.3.11 (forget about the name, it contains 0.4.0) | 08:14 |
| enrico | fabbione: hi | 08:14 |
| enrico | fabbione: thanks, vorlon pointed that out to me as well. It bus errors on hppa and ia64 as well. | 08:15 |
| enrico | fabbione: this evening I'll look into it. If the normal DD accessible machines won't do it for me, I'll ask you about access | 08:16 |
| fabbione | enrico: ok cool. i did temporary disabled the test suite for ubuntu but if you need any help just drop an email with your ssh key and i will setup access | 08:16 |
| enrico | fabbione: ok, thanks | 08:17 |
| fabbione | enrico: i also have hppa and ia64 toys around if you need... | 08:17 |
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| enrico | cool | 08:18 |
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| === Hobbsee wonders how long it will be before pitti comes online | ||
| enrico | Riddell: argh! | 08:23 |
| enrico | *** YOU'RE USING automake (GNU automake) 1.10. | 08:23 |
| enrico | *** KDE requires automake 1.6.1 or newer | 08:23 |
| Hobbsee | enrico: appropriate http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu_00_autoconf2.60.diff i suspect | 08:24 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: He didn't go to bed until 2:30am his local time. | 08:24 |
| Hobbsee | oh wait | 08:24 |
| Hobbsee | enrico: dont mind me, i cant read. | 08:24 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: ouch. by the logs, i can tell it must be something like that | 08:24 |
| enrico | Hobbsee: :) | 08:24 |
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| enrico | Riddell: mornfall hinted me at make -f admin/Makefile.common cvs and now the build has managed to start | 08:30 |
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| === Hobbsee decides to test a cd anyway | ||
| === Hobbsee hugs rsycn | ||
| === LaserJock kicks rsync | ||
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| dholbach | HAPPY HUG DAY | 08:39 |
| Hobbsee | dholbach: it's been hug day for ages, and i've been closing bugs! :D | 08:39 |
| dholbach | hehe | 08:39 |
| pygi | lol | 08:39 |
| Admiral_Chicago | grr i cant get started yet | 08:39 |
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| === LaserJock gives Hobbsee a hug | ||
| pygi | Hobbsee, I'd say we closed 50 burning bugs in two days | 08:39 |
| pygi | which is nice :) | 08:40 |
| Hobbsee | there's ~30 closed kdebase bugs, and about the same for kdemultimedia. which is good! | 08:40 |
| Hobbsee | :D | 08:40 |
| === Hobbsee gives LaserJock a hug back :) | ||
| pygi | and I'll close some tomorrow hopefully | 08:40 |
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| Hobbsee | hiya MithrandirWithWorkingSystem | 08:40 |
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| Admiral_Chicago | better | 08:40 |
| Mithrandir | hiya Hobbsee | 08:40 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 08:40 |
| LaserJock | well crap, it seems rsync didn't really rsync my .iso | 08:41 |
| Hobbsee | :( | 08:42 |
| === Admiral_Chicago hugs room | ||
| LaserJock | well shoot, now I can't even confirm my own bug :/ | 08:50 |
| shawarma | Good morning, everyone. Happy hug day! | 08:50 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: why not? | 08:50 |
| Hobbsee | hiya shawarma! | 08:50 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: you asked something odd last night. did you get an asnwer? | 08:50 |
| shawarma | Hi, Hobbsee! | 08:50 |
| shawarma | Hobbsee: Which one of my odd questions are you referring to? | 08:51 |
| Hobbsee | dont remember. i'll have to lastlog | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | Hobbsee: well, I tried the Edubuntu Desktop CD at work and it wouldn't login | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | so I went home and tried it at home, same thing | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | now I figure out that the .iso at home didn't really rsync | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | so when I *do* rsync it the bug goes away | 08:52 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 08:52 |
| fabbione | shawarma: server iso's are up for testing FYI | 08:53 |
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| shawarma | fabbione: Today's daily images? | 08:53 |
| fabbione | shawarma: yes | 08:54 |
| fabbione | 20070626 | 08:54 |
| shawarma | Great. I'm on it. | 08:54 |
| fabbione | shawarma: i guess you also want to tell to the other -server guys | 08:59 |
| fabbione | shawarma: i already did sparc for you | 08:59 |
| shawarma | \0/ | 09:00 |
| shawarma | fabbione: They're all asleep. Slackers. | 09:00 |
| fabbione | shawarma: then you win :) | 09:01 |
| === LongPointyStick pokes them all | ||
| shawarma | fabbione: Uhuh.. | 09:02 |
| shawarma | fabbione: :p | 09:02 |
| fabbione | shawarma: remember to play Lotto this week.. ~54M DKK on saturday | 09:02 |
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| shawarma | fabbione: Man, testing this is going to be so much nicer than Tribe 1. I've got a new kickass machine for it. | 09:03 |
| fabbione | shawarma: good.. | 09:03 |
| shawarma | fabbione: Meh.. Playing the lottery is just an extra tax on lack of math skills. | 09:03 |
| StevenK | Meh. There's no math skills to it. | 09:04 |
| fabbione | shawarma: i won last week too... | 09:04 |
| shawarma | fabbione: Big bucks? | 09:04 |
| fabbione | shawarma: enough for a box of cigarettes and to pay off the play | 09:05 |
| shawarma | StevenK: You'd think so. | 09:05 |
| fabbione | shawarma: do you truely believe i was gonna test sparc today if i won big bucks? :P | 09:05 |
| shawarma | fabbione: Um... yes? | 09:05 |
| shawarma | fabbione: You like it, and you know it. | 09:06 |
| fabbione | shawarma: Um no.. i would command somebody to do it for me :) | 09:06 |
| StevenK | fabbione: Sure, because you would have ordered a few 96 CPU UltraSPARC IV monsters? :-) | 09:06 |
| fabbione | ahaha | 09:06 |
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| leagris | hile, anyone could have a look at this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/118310 and have an idea for a workaround? | 09:16 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 118310 in linux-source-2.6.20 "pktcdvd bound device limit the size readable from attached device when mounting ISO9660 or UDF dual layer DVD-ROM." [Undecided,Confirmed] | 09:16 |
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| Hobbsee | pitti!!!!!!!!!!!! | 09:16 |
| === Hobbsee hugs pitti | ||
| pitti | good morning | 09:17 |
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| === pitti hugs Hobbsee | ||
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| pitti | hi StevenK | 09:19 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: that's what happens when you go to bed at 2.30am :P | 09:19 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: well, after 18 hours of sitting in front of that damn machine I just had to :/ | 09:20 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 09:20 |
| Hobbsee | understandable | 09:20 |
| pitti | hm, no ubuntu desktop/alternate iso tests at all during the night :/ | 09:21 |
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| Hobbsee | did you call for testers? | 09:21 |
| Hobbsee | or did anyone else? | 09:21 |
| Hobbsee | on irc? | 09:21 |
| enrico | Riddell: uploaded in Debian | 09:21 |
| dholbach | please give back nemiver prefixsuffix libgnomeuimm2.6 | 09:21 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: heno did on the mailing list yesterday | 09:22 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, i just remmebered, hence added the IRC | 09:22 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: those are the final images, as far as you know? | 09:22 |
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| pitti | Hobbsee: I did test installs yesterday and there were quite a lot of bugs; I need to talk to mvo and cjwatson_ | 09:23 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: so for Ubuntu we might need an update at least | 09:23 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: right. kubuntu seems OK, so far. | 09:23 |
| Hobbsee | desktop | 09:23 |
| Hobbsee | what bugs? | 09:23 |
| enrico | Riddell: if you don't want to wait for a debian archive run, you can get them from http://www.enricozini.org/store/aptfront.tar and http://www.enricozini.org/store/adept.tar | 09:23 |
| Hobbsee | enrico: we're in freeze at the moment anyway | 09:24 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: ubiquity hanging eternally on manual partitioning, hanging session splash, no shutdown dialog, and other people had lots and lots of crashes with compiz | 09:24 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: right. | 09:25 |
| pitti | kylem: still awake by chance? | 09:27 |
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| pitti | shawarma: thanks for doing some server tests; can you do the other i386 tests as well? and maybe an amd64 one? | 09:29 |
| Hobbsee | erk. my german isnt that good, to understand teh error messages. *puts it back in english* | 09:30 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: what did it say? | 09:30 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: NFI :) | 09:31 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: er, did you want more testers for the ubuntu cds? | 09:31 |
| Hobbsee | if you know about those bugs already? | 09:31 |
| === pygi is worried what might happen if pitti says yes, and he will | ||
| pitti | that would be great | 09:32 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: preferance for desktop or alternate? | 09:32 |
| pitti | we need a lot of testing for the compiz stuff, to cover lots of hardware | 09:32 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: desktop; that's quicker | 09:32 |
| shawarma | pitti: I'm on it. :) | 09:33 |
| shawarma | pitti: Both i386 and amd64. I'll do all 6. | 09:33 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: and booting the live system will already test the compiz stuff we're interested in; ubiquity tests cannot hurt, too | 09:33 |
| === pitti is going to look into his bugs from yesterday in more detail | ||
| Hobbsee | pitti: yeah | 09:33 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: i see what you mean about the checking the file system taking an eternity, it happens with the auto-resize too. | 09:35 |
| Hobbsee | (kubuntu desktop i386) | 09:35 |
| pitti | StevenK: cruft list updated, btw | 09:36 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: oh, does it eventually get on? | 09:36 |
| pitti | shawarma: great! | 09:39 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: ahhh...yeah...now it is. well, it's showing 50%, as opposed to 0 | 09:40 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: seems that not everything actually changes back to english, if you hit back repeatedly, and change the language in the installer | 09:42 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: 50% of what? | 09:42 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: of resizing | 09:42 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: the 'reading partition table' dialog disappeared quite quickly, but then nothing happened any more | 09:42 |
| pitti | ah, resizing | 09:42 |
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| shawarma | I know we've been over it numerous times over the last week... What's the difference between confirmed and triaged again? | 09:43 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: Riddell's listed manual partition as a PASS. so i havent tested it. | 09:43 |
| Hobbsee | and catnn really, in a VM. | 09:43 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: anyone can confirm - but that doesnt mean its got enough info to fix it | 09:43 |
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| shawarma | Hobbsee: So triaged is more complete? | 09:44 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: that's just weird; if it needs more info, it should be 'incomplete' | 09:44 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: i never said it made sense. | 09:44 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: yes | 09:44 |
| Hobbsee | triaged is no longer a closed state, too | 09:44 |
| shawarma | Hobbsee: SUper. Thanks. | 09:46 |
| shawarma | Hobbsee: So confirmed is basically a "me too"? | 09:46 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 09:46 |
| shawarma | Excellent. | 09:47 |
| cjwatson | pitti: is there a bug about the ubiquity hang? | 09:57 |
| Hobbsee | morning cjwatson | 09:57 |
| cjwatson | morning | 09:57 |
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| Hobbsee | cjwatson: resize seems to take forever too. not sure who's department that is | 09:58 |
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| cjwatson | Hobbsee: timed as longer than feisty? | 09:59 |
| cjwatson | resizing is often Just Slow | 10:00 |
| Hobbsee | cjwatson: i wasnt running a VM in feisty :) | 10:00 |
| Hobbsee | cjwatson: it took ~5 mins? | 10:00 |
| Hobbsee | or longer? | 10:00 |
| cjwatson | that doesn't bother me too much | 10:00 |
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| cjwatson | I doubt it's changed - parted's basically the same | 10:00 |
| Hobbsee | cjwatson: fair enough. i havent reported it. only reported the kubuntu mount one | 10:00 |
| Hobbsee | and i've got a suspicion that that's a fairly simple one to fix | 10:01 |
| cjwatson | I have not seen it | 10:01 |
| Hobbsee | i only just reported it | 10:01 |
| Hobbsee | https://launchpad.net/bugs/122500 | 10:01 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122500 in ubiquity "Kubuntu - Mount dialog always gets shown when the disk is mounted, in the middle of the install" [Undecided,New] | 10:01 |
| cjwatson | I'm sure that used to work in Kubuntu | 10:01 |
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| pitti | hello cjwatson | 10:02 |
| === pitti hugs mvo | ||
| pitti | cjwatson: I didn't yet dive into the manual partitioning hang; running with UBIQUITY_DEBUG=1 fixed it... | 10:02 |
| mvo | hey pitti | 10:02 |
| pitti | cjwatson: and the normal log didn't say anything | 10:02 |
| mvo | pitti: how do the images look so far? | 10:02 |
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| pitti | mvo: my test install from yesterday was pretty bad :/ | 10:03 |
| pitti | mvo: compiz itself worked, but something in your new gnome-session makes the splash screen not go away and causes the shutdown dialog to not appear | 10:03 |
| pitti | mvo: seb128 said it's due to something in the session startup which doesn't terminate properly | 10:03 |
| mvo | pitti: yeah, I noticed that too | 10:03 |
| cjwatson | pitti: I don't recommend UBIQUITY_DEBUG=1 any more, by the way - ubiquity --debug is easier | 10:03 |
| pitti | cjwatson: ah, ok; I'll first try whether I can reproduce it in vmware | 10:04 |
| shawarma | What do we actually do when we "Check CD for defects"? Check that the info in Packages correspond to the .debs? Anything else? | 10:04 |
| cjwatson | shawarma: md5sum -c | 10:04 |
| cjwatson | there's a big md5sum list on the CD | 10:04 |
| shawarma | Ah | 10:04 |
| shawarma | Clever :) | 10:05 |
| asac | stgraber: pong | 10:05 |
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| pitti | cjwatson: I just reopened bug 114296, btw; is apt-install restricted to packages which are already on the live system? | 10:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 114296 in restricted-manager "running restricted-manager before installation can break system" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114296 | 10:06 |
| pitti | cjwatson: when I uploaded r-m, I only ran the script to see that the executed apt-install commands are correct; however, yesterday I wasn't able to check whether the script was not ran in the first place, or apt-install didn't do anything | 10:07 |
| pitti | mvo: session splash hang happens in vmware for me; can you reproduce that/ | 10:07 |
| pitti | ? | 10:07 |
| cjwatson | pitti: it's not supposed to be, but ubiquity may be buggy there *shrug* | 10:07 |
| StevenK | pitti: Ah, right. Thanks. | 10:08 |
| cjwatson | pitti: I'd suggest closing the restricted-manager task and reopening the ubiquity task | 10:08 |
| pitti | mvo: also, there were a lot of people yesterday who still suffered eternal login loops due to crashing session | 10:08 |
| pitti | cjwatson: ok | 10:08 |
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| shawarma | pitti: I saw the eternal login loop thing on a daily image from a few days ago. The daily from yesterday worked fine. | 10:09 |
| pitti | mvo: it seems that the blacklist is still not big enough | 10:10 |
| mvo | hey seb128 | 10:10 |
| seb128 | hi mvo pitti | 10:10 |
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| pitti | mvo: but we have to do something about it, we shouldn't ship a broken tribe-2 to 1/3 of testers | 10:10 |
| pitti | mvo: can we turn this into a driver whitelist for now? | 10:11 |
| cjwatson | Hobbsee: you know that ubiquity already does attempt to disable automounting, right? | 10:11 |
| cjwatson | Hobbsee: so chances are KDE broke that ... | 10:11 |
| Hobbsee | cjwatson: i didnt, but oK. | 10:11 |
| Hobbsee | cjwatson: kde just offers the chance to mount the drive and such | 10:11 |
| mvo | pitti: are their more details on the crashes/hangs? | 10:11 |
| cjwatson | it may be it doesn't disable it for long enough | 10:11 |
| Hobbsee | so i guess what you really want to do is to go "do nothing", and do it all the time. | 10:12 |
| cjwatson | ubiquity calls 'dcop kded kded unloadModule medianotifier' before partitioning | 10:12 |
| pitti | mvo: unfortunately not; I asked LaserJock to file bugs on it | 10:12 |
| cjwatson | I suspect it loads it again too soon | 10:12 |
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| cjwatson | how about I adjust that and we'll see if that helps | 10:12 |
| pitti | mvo: and milestone them, but there are no new milestone bugs ATM | 10:12 |
| Hobbsee | cjwatson: worht trying | 10:12 |
| pitti | mvo: I heard it from about three different people on IRC | 10:12 |
| pitti | cjwatson: so, ubiquity manual hang didn't happen in vmware, so I guess it's specific to my disk layout; if noone else complains, we can just leave it like that for the tribe | 10:14 |
| Hobbsee | okay, kubuntu was all good until it actually runs from the hard drive. | 10:14 |
| pitti | hey seb128 | 10:14 |
| Hobbsee | a) it doesnt start X, b) i get "bash: /dev/null Permission Denied" | 10:14 |
| shawarma | Eek. | 10:15 |
| Hobbsee | which may be VM specific, i'm nto sure | 10:15 |
| cjwatson | Hobbsee: I bet some loony maintainer script replaced /dev/null with a regular file | 10:15 |
| cjwatson | happens from time to time and we have to go and beat things | 10:15 |
| Hobbsee | cjwatson: this si a clean install? | 10:15 |
| cjwatson | sure? | 10:16 |
| cjwatson | I mean, that doesn't exclude the possibility | 10:16 |
| Hobbsee | well, they were both clean installs, in a VM. one took the entire disk, and the other auto-resized. | 10:16 |
| Hobbsee | right, true | 10:16 |
| Hobbsee | is a virtual pc 2007 setup is considered a valid system spec? | 10:17 |
| pitti | mvo: I have a running '/bin/sh /usr/bin/compiz' here in vmware; could that be the reason for the hang? the script that doesn't terminate? | 10:18 |
| mvo | pitti: I'm looking into it now | 10:19 |
| pitti | mvo: hm, killing that doesn't help at least | 10:19 |
| cjwatson | Hobbsee: the problem you describe (assuming that /dev/null is really a regular file rather than a character device; please check) is unlikely to be truly hardware-dependent | 10:19 |
| Hobbsee | cjwatson: that question is unrelated, sorry. | 10:20 |
| cjwatson | ok | 10:20 |
| pitti | mvo: ah, it hanged on gnome-wm | 10:21 |
| pitti | seb128: ^ | 10:21 |
| pitti | that takes a minute to 'connect to the session' until the other programs in the session are called and logout dialog etc. work | 10:21 |
| pitti | (I was watching gnome-session-properties) | 10:21 |
| seb128 | pitti: do you have the new gnome-session where mvo removed the gtk-window-decorator call? | 10:21 |
| pitti | seb128: I have the latest CDs, which have the latest packages | 10:22 |
| pitti | 2.19.4-0ubuntu3 | 10:22 |
| seb128 | k, so I don't know, mvo tracked that bug yesterday and he said it was due to the gtk-window-decorator call | 10:22 |
| pitti | yep, changelog says so | 10:22 |
| seb128 | I didn't get the bug when I tried the CD yesterday | 10:22 |
| seb128 | I'm rsync the CD update atm | 10:23 |
| pitti | seb128: did you try it on hardware which has compiz by default? | 10:23 |
| seb128 | yes | 10:23 |
| pitti | ah, that might be it then | 10:23 |
| seb128 | I've no hardware where compiz doesn't work | 10:23 |
| pitti | vmare doesn't, and on my nvidia system it doesn't eitehr | 10:23 |
| pitti | seb128: vmware :) | 10:24 |
| seb128 | I need to install that one day ;) | 10:24 |
| seb128 | I've no real use for it though | 10:24 |
| === mvo can reproduce it now | ||
| seb128 | can we boot an iso with the vmware-player package? | 10:25 |
| pygi | seb128, not a regular iso | 10:25 |
| pygi | there needs to be some additional files afaik | 10:25 |
| pygi | vmx and stuff | 10:25 |
| seb128 | need a real vmware for that then? | 10:25 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, workstation | 10:26 |
| pygi | pitti, could he try with virtualbox? | 10:26 |
| pygi | Should serve same purpose | 10:26 |
| pitti | sure | 10:26 |
| pygi | seb128, use virtualbox | 10:26 |
| mvo | seb128: I think server can do it to, we have packages for it | 10:26 |
| pitti | seb128: player can only start already existing machines | 10:26 |
| pygi | seb128, it's open source, and you can start iso | 10:26 |
| pygi | mvo, indeed, but virtualbox might be easier | 10:26 |
| pygi | seb128, http://www.virtualbox.org/download/1.4.0/virtualbox_1.4.0-21864_Ubuntu_feisty_i386.deb | 10:27 |
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| seb128 | pygi: thanks | 10:28 |
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| === pygi should package that for gutsy | ||
| Hobbsee | pygi: the virtualbox people want to submit it themselves | 10:28 |
| pygi | Hobbsee, o well. | 10:28 |
| pygi | let them do it then | 10:28 |
| pygi | seb128, yw | 10:30 |
| Admiral_Chicago | that would be good to have it in the repos, I distrust webpage's packages as a rule | 10:30 |
| pygi | Admiral_Chicago, ^_^ | 10:30 |
| asac | pitti: can you reproduce bug 121228 ? | 10:31 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 121228 in network-manager "[gutsy] segfault retrieving passphrase for WiFi network" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121228 | 10:31 |
| pygi | asac, wasn't that the guy using vanilla n-m? | 10:32 |
| pitti | asac: I don't have an encrypted wifi here | 10:32 |
| asac | pygi: yes but he could verifiy with our package as well ... and there are already lots of dupes | 10:32 |
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| pitti | pygi: no, we have so many dups about that that I don't believe that | 10:32 |
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| asac | pitti: i found something in gnome-keyring which might be related: bug 122502 | 10:33 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122502 in gnome-keyring "[PATCH] memory leak + error handling glitch in gnome-keyring-proto.c:gnome_keyring_proto_decode_find_reply" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122502 | 10:33 |
| pitti | asac: well, there are some encrypted wifis from some neighbour; can I test it without knowing the passphrase? | 10:33 |
| pitti | asac: I just had a try on a wpa2 network and entered a bogus passphrase, it doesn't crash here | 10:34 |
| pitti | asac: and the dialog doesn't offer me to save it in the keyring (it probably wants to validate it first) | 10:34 |
| stgraber | asac: You are the one working on compiz right ? | 10:35 |
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| mvo | morning dholbach! | 10:37 |
| Hobbsee | hi dholbach! | 10:37 |
| dholbach | re | 10:37 |
| dholbach | hi mvo :) | 10:37 |
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| pitti | mvo: so, what do you blacklist ATM? just vga|vesa|nv? | 10:38 |
| pitti | mvo: ... |vmware? | 10:38 |
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| mvo | pitti: vga|vesa|nv | 10:39 |
| mvo | pitti: vmware does not make it through the glxinfo test | 10:39 |
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| asac_ | sorry ... dsl hick-ups | 10:39 |
| pitti | mvo: ah, cool | 10:39 |
| stgraber | asac_: sorry, I didn't ping the right person it seems :) | 10:40 |
| asac_ | k | 10:40 |
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| pitti | mvo: ok, so we need to talk to LaserJock and wasabi about their failures | 10:40 |
| Hobbsee | hiya Keybuk | 10:41 |
| mvo | pitti: that is why I'm so interested in people with failures, to know what glxinfo, xdpyinfo etc they have | 10:41 |
| pitti | mvo: so, we probably have to confine it a lot in the future and just live with the fact that tribe2 is screwed for many people | 10:42 |
| pitti | mvo: so the only thing that still worries me RC-wise on my list is that session hang | 10:42 |
| pitti | dholbach: (for catching up): I watched gnome-session-properties while starting, and it needs a minute to connect to the session; that's what's blocking the splash screen and the logout dialog | 10:43 |
| pitti | dholbach: (and blocking all subsequent programs which also want to be started in the session) | 10:43 |
| mvo | clicking on the splash makes it go away for me | 10:44 |
| dholbach | does reverting to the last gnome-session version help? | 10:44 |
| === mvo has a GSM_VERBOSE_DEBUG print is anyone is interessted | ||
| pitti | mvo: right, but it doesn't fix the session connection hang of gnome-wm | 10:47 |
| seb128 | dholbach: not likely, usually those bugs are due to a program not registering correctly and making the session wait | 10:48 |
| dholbach | seb128: ah ok | 10:48 |
| pitti | mvo: ah, the '/bin/sh /usr/bin/compiz' process is due to /usr/bin/compiz forgetting to use 'exec' for running metacity | 10:48 |
| === Admiral_Chicago waits for his hugs. | ||
| pitti | mvo: I just added that; it doesn't help the hang, though | 10:48 |
| mvo | pitti: yeah, I noticed that too | 10:49 |
| Admiral_Chicago | oops, chanaged the background on the wrong bug report.... | 10:49 |
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| shawarma | \0/ | 10:52 |
| pitti | mvo, seb128: is this reasoning correct: while gnome-wm is shown as connecting in gnome-session-properties, there is no gnome-wm process, thus /usr/bin/gnome-wm already finished and exec'ed compiz; there is no compiz process (after fixing the exec line from above), so it already exec'ed metacity | 10:53 |
| seb128 | I think it is | 10:53 |
| pitti | mvo, seb128: metacity process is running, but it doesn't have a --sm-client-id argument | 10:54 |
| seb128 | not good | 10:54 |
| pitti | can that be the fault? doesn't /usr/bin/compiz need to pass the session ID to metacity or so? | 10:54 |
| seb128 | could be yes | 10:54 |
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| Admiral_Chicago | thanks for the hug shawarma | 10:54 |
| Admiral_Chicago | now I can sleep easy | 10:55 |
| pitti | hm, "exec 2>/tmp/out; set -x" should work, right? | 10:55 |
| === asac hugs Admiral_Chicago too | ||
| StevenK | Hum, doesn't that reexec the current script? | 10:55 |
| Admiral_Chicago | hehe, asac i've got a clean install of kubuntu and ubunt feisty. | 10:56 |
| Admiral_Chicago | 2 days old each so if you need testing, on a clean build ler mt know | 10:56 |
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| pitti | seb128: does "--sm-client-id default0" look like a valid SID? | 10:57 |
| asac | Admiral_Chicago: if you can, upgrade to gutsy and see if gnome-applet crashes for your wifi setup ;) | 10:57 |
| pitti | StevenK: ho, why? | 10:57 |
| pitti | no, even | 10:57 |
| StevenK | pitti: I thought it did, is all. | 10:58 |
| Admiral_Chicago | its not my computer, its my sister's laptop. also, still not connecting very well to the internet | 10:58 |
| seb128 | pitti: yes | 10:58 |
| pitti | seb128: cause in my production system they have names like 117f000001000118252706300000156690007 | 10:58 |
| pitti | so /usr/bin/gnome-wm passes it correctly to /usr/bin/compiz | 10:59 |
| seb128 | pitti: /usr/share/gnome/default.session uses "gnome-wm --sm-client-id default0" | 11:00 |
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| seb128 | bug #122519 | 11:02 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122519 in deluge-torrent "deluge cra shed with ImportError in find_class()" (dup-of: 121836)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122519 | 11:02 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 121836 in deluge-torrent "deluge crashed with ImportError in find_class()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121836 | 11:02 |
| seb128 | " Apport retracing service (275) marked as duplicate 121836" | 11:02 |
| seb128 | autoduping in action ;) | 11:02 |
| Hobbsee | woot! | 11:02 |
| mvo | pitti: I have the fix, its indeed the missing argument passing :/ | 11:03 |
| pitti | mvo: oh, I am this --><-- close to it as well; it forgot to pass "$@" in two places | 11:04 |
| mvo | pitti: you gave me all the good clues :) but two places? where is the other one? | 11:04 |
| mvo | pitti: FALLBACKWM_OPTIONS misses it | 11:04 |
| pitti | mvo: ah, that would work, too :) I explicitly added it to the two places which call it | 11:05 |
| mvo | pitti: want me to upload it right away or wait for reports on falures so that the blacklist/whitelist can be improved? | 11:06 |
| pitti | mvo: please upload | 11:07 |
| pitti | mvo: two uploads are cheap; it's CD respins which are expensive | 11:07 |
| fabbione | cjwatson, evand: is parted maintained in bzr? | 11:07 |
| pitti | mvo: so, adding $@ after the "--replace helped here | 11:08 |
| mvo | pitti: cool, uploading the fix now | 11:09 |
| shawarma | I have a really weird problem on the amd64 LAMP install.. | 11:09 |
| pitti | mvo: can you also add the three missing exec calls | 11:09 |
| pitti | mvo: ? | 11:09 |
| pitti | mvo: two on the last line and one in abort_with_fallback_wm()? | 11:10 |
| mvo | pitti: sure, just reject my last upload then | 11:10 |
| shawarma | libapache2-mod-php5 is not installed(!). apt-cache show libapache2-mod-php5 clearly says "Task: lamp-server". "apt-get isntall lamp-server^" says that all its packages are installed (but libapache2-mod-php5 is not on that list). wtf? | 11:10 |
| pitti | mvo: rejected | 11:10 |
| === heno sees this bug in vbox too, but it installs fine apart from that | ||
| mvo | pitti: the last line "compiz.real || metacity" would not work when I "exec compiz || metacity" AFAICS, only "compiz || exec metacity" | 11:12 |
| StevenK | exec compiz || exec metacity ? | 11:12 |
| shawarma | Won't work. | 11:12 |
| mvo | I don't think that will work as intended | 11:12 |
| pitti | mvo: "compiz.real || exec metacity"? | 11:13 |
| mvo | the first "compiz" needs to stay | 11:13 |
| mvo | yeah | 11:13 |
| mvo | pitti: yes | 11:13 |
| pitti | probably, yes | 11:13 |
| pitti | ugly, but not the default case anyway | 11:13 |
| mvo | pitti: I added the other two though, thanks! | 11:13 |
| cjwatson | fabbione: no, just plain source packages | 11:13 |
| pitti | darn, I missed to disable the publisher | 11:13 |
| fabbione | cjwatson: ok thanks | 11:13 |
| shawarma | Can someone with a clue lend me a hand with that libapache2-mod-php5 thing? | 11:14 |
| pitti | mvo: wrt. blacklist, let's keep it that way for tribe-2 and put something into the release notes how to report errors | 11:14 |
| pitti | shawarma: is it on the CD at all? | 11:14 |
| mvo | pitti: ok, that sounds good. I will draft something | 11:15 |
| pitti | mvo: do we have an easy way to disable compiz? (easier than hammering killall gdm?) | 11:15 |
| shawarma | pitti: Yup. | 11:15 |
| mvo | pitti: seb128 asked me to disable expose on click on the top-right corner. fix is trivial, do you want a upload for this too? | 11:15 |
| pitti | mvo: what does it break? | 11:16 |
| mvo | pitti: currently not :/ save graphics mode as it would use vesa and that makes compiz not run | 11:16 |
| pitti | (except for being absolutely undiscoverable :) ) | 11:16 |
| shawarma | pitti: regardless, if apt-get install lamp-server^ says everything is installed, and apt-cache show libapache-mod-php5 says it's part of lamp-server, but it's not installed, by head blows up. | 11:16 |
| seb128 | pitti: go to the top-right, corner and click, instead of activating the session dialog you get this weird zoom | 11:16 |
| mvo | pitti: people might get confused when trying to click on the logout button in the top-right. but it can wait after tribe-2 too | 11:16 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, I see | 11:16 |
| seb128 | pitti: it just conflicts with the button | 11:16 |
| pitti | seb128, mvo: fine for me | 11:16 |
| pitti | mvo: is this in compiz as well? | 11:17 |
| pitti | or another package? | 11:17 |
| mvo | pitti: compizconfig0 | 11:17 |
| mvo | libcompizconfig | 11:18 |
| mvo | :) | 11:18 |
| pitti | mvo: ok, please get it in | 11:18 |
| pitti | mvo: I cannot start another publisher before 11:40 anyway | 11:18 |
| pitti | we have another window open for getting urgent fixes into the ubuntu CDs; if you have something, please speak up *now* | 11:20 |
| shawarma | pitti: Well.. | 11:21 |
| shawarma | pitti: Not having libapache2-mod-php5 in a LAMP install is rather unfortunate. | 11:21 |
| pitti | shawarma: I agree | 11:21 |
| pitti | cjwatson: any idea about that tasks issue? ^ | 11:22 |
| shawarma | I have *no* clue why it doesn't work though. | 11:22 |
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| shawarma | cjwatson: Short version. libapache2-mod-php5 is not installed when choosing LAMP server on amd64 server CD. apt-cache show libapache2-mod-php5 says "Task: lamp-server", but "apt-get install lamp-server^" says all packages are installed (and it doesn't list libapache2-mod-php5) | 11:23 |
| Mithrandir | shawarma: check the task headers on the CD? | 11:24 |
| pitti | asac: the gnome-keyring fix doesn't happen to fix n-m by any chance? :) | 11:24 |
| shawarma | Mithrandir: I assume you mean the Packages file on the CD.. It looks fine. It's got Task: lamp-server for libapache2-mod-php5. | 11:25 |
| Mithrandir | shawarma: hm, ok, weird. | 11:26 |
| shawarma | Mithrandir: Very much so. | 11:26 |
| shawarma | Mithrandir: It worked fine on the i386 install. | 11:26 |
| cjwatson | shawarma: I blame apt | 11:27 |
| shawarma | cjwatson: That's even worse.. | 11:27 |
| asac | pitti: i hope it does ... because i found it when following the codepath in keyring ... howveer i don't have a tester atm :/ | 11:28 |
| cjwatson | libapache2-mod-php5 has Task: lamp-server in the archive too | 11:28 |
| asac | anyone with encrypted wifi setup who sees nm applet crash ... step up :) | 11:28 |
| pitti | does anyone have an encrypted wifi? | 11:28 |
| cjwatson | mvo: help | 11:28 |
| mvo | hello cjwatson, what is wrong? | 11:29 |
| pitti | mvo: that's your tribe release From HELL | 11:29 |
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| cjwatson | mvo: see shawarma's task comment above | 11:29 |
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| asac | pitti: i will ask on -motu as well | 11:29 |
| shawarma | mvo: Short version: libapache2-mod-php5 is not installed when choosing LAMP server on amd64 server CD. apt-cache show libapache2-mod-php5 says "Task: lamp-server", but "apt-get install lamp-server^" says all packages are installed (and it doesn't list libapache2-mod-php5) | 11:29 |
| fabbione | shawarma: hmm i am checking sparc. i have a LAMP server install just done.. but i might not have noticed that | 11:30 |
| pitti | seb128: can you do the libcompizconfig change as well? mvo is a bit busy | 11:30 |
| cjwatson | tasksel just calls apt-get install TASK^, BTW | 11:30 |
| mvo | shawarma: ok, I can debug this, I need a current server CD? it seems to work on my regular system | 11:30 |
| seb128 | pitti: looking at it | 11:30 |
| shawarma | fabbione: Alright. I just tossed a .php file with '<? phpinfo(); ?>' in /var/www. | 11:31 |
| shawarma | mvo: amd64. | 11:31 |
| shawarma | mvo: Works fine on i386. | 11:31 |
| shawarma | mvo: Thaaat's right. | 11:31 |
| fabbione | shawarma: yeah.. i will just check the config files.. | 11:31 |
| mvo | shawarma: downloading a image then, it seems to be working on my amdt64 workstation | 11:31 |
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| pitti | hm, sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ fetches libapache2-mod-php5 here, too; something CD specific then | 11:32 |
| mvo | seb128: please bzr update, I commited the changes, just did not test them .) and was wondering if ctrl-f9 will still invoke scale and why compiz has a different default key thatn my installed system | 11:32 |
| shawarma | pitti: It still doesn't work after apt-get update.. | 11:32 |
| fabbione | shawarma, mvo: sparc looks good | 11:33 |
| fabbione | ii libapache2-mod 5.2.3-1ubuntu1 server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag | 11:33 |
| fabbione | (and checked also config files) | 11:33 |
| mvo | shawarma: downloading, no worries - we will hunt that one down :) | 11:33 |
| shawarma | It looks fine on my workstation as well. | 11:33 |
| pitti | shawarma: s/LAMP/LAM/ in the description? :) | 11:33 |
| mvo | HAHA | 11:34 |
| pitti | or just devote it to Perl | 11:34 |
| shawarma | pitti: or passwd | 11:34 |
| shawarma | :) | 11:34 |
| pitti | "Tribe 2 now greatly improves the security of the default LAMP install" | 11:34 |
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| StevenK | Bwahahaha | 11:34 |
| fabbione | pitti: ROFL | 11:34 |
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| pitti | asac: hm, now I wonder whether I should build compiz and then new CDs right now, or wait a little on that bug fix | 11:37 |
| asac | pitti: maybe i have found a tester | 11:37 |
| pitti | asac: do you have a rough ETA? did you test the fix with other gnome-keyring applications to check for regressions? like gnome-gpg and mounting encrypted file sytems? | 11:38 |
| asac | pitti: please wait a few ... if have testers that definitly see the crash | 11:38 |
| asac | dholbach for instance :) | 11:38 |
| pitti | asac: ok; this is highly important, so delaying for an hour is justified | 11:39 |
| asac | pitti: i don't use encrypted fs here ... gnome-gpg I can test ... but what do i do with that? | 11:39 |
| dholbach | asac: I can't test it right now | 11:39 |
| asac | dholbach: yeah ... but you will go home soon :) | 11:39 |
| pitti | asac: do you have amd64 packages somewhere? I can test both here | 11:39 |
| asac | pitti: i can push in a minute | 11:39 |
| pitti | asac: or debdiff, or patch; anything | 11:40 |
| asac | debiff is in bug | 11:40 |
| pitti | ah, right | 11:40 |
| pitti | asac: I'll build it here then | 11:40 |
| asac | pitti: do you have bug number | 11:40 |
| asac | ? | 11:40 |
| pitti | asac: yes, got it from backscroll | 11:40 |
| asac | its out of my clipboard :/ | 11:40 |
| asac | great | 11:40 |
| pitti | bug 122502 | 11:40 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122502 in gnome-keyring "[PATCH] memory leak + error handling glitch in gnome-keyring-proto.c:gnome_keyring_proto_decode_find_reply" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122502 | 11:41 |
| ogra | OMG | 11:41 |
| pitti | hey ogra | 11:42 |
| ogra | 20070626.2 has 22M free | 11:42 |
| pitti | asac: I'll clean it up to be a proper patch | 11:42 |
| ogra | GAH | 11:42 |
| pitti | ogra: is that a catastrophe? | 11:42 |
| ogra | i could have included the -dri stuff | 11:42 |
| pitti | ogra: NB that I need to rebuild the edubuntu CDs | 11:42 |
| asac | pitti: ? | 11:42 |
| ogra | well, after tribe2 | 11:42 |
| pitti | ogra: your debdiff patches it inline | 11:42 |
| ogra | ?? | 11:42 |
| pitti | ogra: we have an updated compiz and libcompizconfig which affects edubuntu, too | 11:42 |
| asac | pitti: what is the problem with that patch? | 11:43 |
| ogra | ah, ok | 11:43 |
| pitti | ogra: hanging splash screen and broken logout dialog | 11:43 |
| pitti | ogra: so if you want to change edubuntu-meta for -dri, please do it right now | 11:43 |
| pitti | asac: it should be a debian/patches/ thing | 11:43 |
| asac | pitti: keyring has no patch system afaik | 11:43 |
| asac | pitti: which is why i did it that way | 11:43 |
| ogra | well, if thats still an option i'll re-add ist to ldm .... | 11:43 |
| pitti | asac: include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk | 11:43 |
| pitti | asac: it just doesn't have patches ATM :) | 11:43 |
| ogra | err. ltsp-client sorry | 11:44 |
| asac | yeah ... take the patch from upstream bug ... or just strip the changelog | 11:44 |
| pitti | ogra: hm, I'd really prefer if you added it to desktop-recommends | 11:44 |
| pitti | ogra: see the corresponding change in the ubuntu seeds | 11:44 |
| ogra | pitti, then it doesnt get installed on thin clients ... hmm, ok i'll find a workaround for that later | 11:44 |
| pitti | ogra: oh, I see | 11:45 |
| pitti | ogra: you don't have a metapackage with Recommends: for thin clients, do you? | 11:45 |
| ogra | i could make one ... | 11:45 |
| ogra | note thats not urgent for tribe2 or something | 11:45 |
| pitti | ogra: adding it to ldm is a bit bad since then you cannot uninstall it any more if you don't need it | 11:45 |
| pitti | ogra: ok; maybe fill them with langpacks instead then :) | 11:46 |
| ogra | no, it was a dep of ltsp-client .... | 11:46 |
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| ogra | which means you install it only in thin client chroots | 11:46 |
| ogra | ltsp-client inst installable on normal systems | 11:46 |
| ogra | *isnt | 11:46 |
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| ogra | i'll add -dri to have it on the cd ... it just doesnt help the ltsp case this way atm | 11:47 |
| ogra | s/add -dri/add -dri to desktop.recommends/ | 11:48 |
| ogra | hmm | 11:49 |
| ogra | does anyone else see a directory here ? | 11:50 |
| ogra | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.gutsy/ | 11:50 |
| pitti | asac: that patch looks straightforward at least | 11:50 |
| ogra | (i know there is a typo in the url, but i dont think i should see a dir) | 11:50 |
| pitti | ogra: no, it's 'desktop' | 11:50 |
| pitti | ogra: recommends come from packages in parentheses | 11:50 |
| pitti | ogra: look into the ubuntu seeds | 11:50 |
| ogra | i know | 11:50 |
| ogra | sorry, my fault | 11:51 |
| pitti | ogra: that dir just has a .bzr in it, no working tree | 11:51 |
| ogra | still, i should likely rather see a launchpad page or so ... | 11:52 |
| ogra | not a plain apache dir listing | 11:52 |
| pitti | ogra: use codebrowse then :) | 11:52 |
| cjwatson | ogra: it's always been like that. maybe you're thinking of code.launchpad.net | 11:52 |
| ogra | cjwatson, yes. thats where i came from ... and thought i could just change the url to get to the LP page of the branch | 11:53 |
| ogra | which then got me to that page | 11:53 |
| txwikinger2 | Which package takes care of setting the env variables for the shell ? | 11:53 |
| cjwatson | you can, s/bazaar/code/ | 11:53 |
| cjwatson | txwikinger2: the shell itself | 11:54 |
| txwikinger2 | so bash for bash? | 11:54 |
| cjwatson | oh and libpam-runtime does a couple of them | 11:54 |
| cjwatson | but as a general rule packages shouldn't require environment variables to set in order to work properly, so there isn't a need for too much fancy stuff there | 11:54 |
| cjwatson | s/to set/to be set/ | 11:54 |
| asac | pitti: yeah the patch definitly fixes bugs ... maybe i have a tester in -motu ... so stay tuned | 11:55 |
| pitti | asac: building package now, and giving it some tests | 11:55 |
| pitti | mvo, seb128: is either of you tackling the libcompizconfig change? | 11:56 |
| seb128 | pitti: I'm looking at it | 11:56 |
| seb128 | the change made by mvo seems to be not working, investigating why | 11:57 |
| mvo | seb128: did you restarted compiz? it seems to be needed | 11:59 |
| seb128 | mvo: yes, I restarted the session and removed .gconf/apps also | 11:59 |
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| StevenK | Sigh. | 11:59 |
| mvo | hrm :/ | 11:59 |
| StevenK | Neither VirtualBox or VMware seem to support long mode. | 11:59 |
| pitti | seb128: new gnome-keyring works fine for gnome-gpg and encrypted gnome-mount here | 12:00 |
| pitti | erm, I mean asac ^ | 12:00 |
| pitti | seb128: sorry, autofingers for m/gnome/ :) | 12:01 |
| asac | pitti: ok lets wait for feedback on nm applet crash ... thanks | 12:01 |
| fabbione | pitti: the tracker doesn't allow me to add an extra entry for stuff already tested but Niagara is good too | 12:01 |
| asac | pitti: motu is testing atm :) | 12:01 |
| pitti | fabbione: you can change it in the comment field; but thanks | 12:01 |
| pitti | asac: \o/ | 12:01 |
| Mirv | carlos: could you check bug 106756, ie. feisty translation template problem? it'd be nice to get translations for the next update. | 12:01 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 106756 in gnome-app-install ""Search for suitable codec" dialog not translated/translatable" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106756 | 12:01 |
| pitti | asac: mind if I just upload the package myself? I gave you full credit in the changelog :) | 12:02 |
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| pitti | asac: but I rather have it properly patchified and such | 12:02 |
| asac | pitti: go ahead ... i am not a credits whore | 12:02 |
| asac | pitti: close the LP bug :) | 12:02 |
| asac | in changelog | 12:02 |
| pitti | asac: ok, I uploaded it and just keep it in the unapproved queue, to reduce the response time | 12:03 |
| pitti | asac: I did | 12:03 |
| pitti | asac: well, I closed #122502, let's close the other one manually | 12:03 |
| shawarma | mvo: Crap, it's reproducable. | 12:04 |
| carlos | Mirv: let me see... | 12:05 |
| pitti | shawarma, mvo: I wonder why this only affects amd64 then; is there something different on the CD itself? | 12:09 |
| mvo | shawarma: I can reproduce it here too, look at it now | 12:10 |
| shawarma | mvo: If I remove the cdrom from sources.list, and do apt-get install lamp-server^ it wants to pull in libapache2-mod-php5... Interesting. | 12:11 |
| mvo | shawarma: oh? that is indeed interessting | 12:11 |
| shawarma | mvo: And if I put it back in, it goes back to not wanting to install it. It's definitely a CD-related issue. | 12:12 |
| carlos | Mirv: bug updated | 12:12 |
| Mirv | carlos: thanks. | 12:12 |
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| asac_ | pitti: tester says it doesn't cure him :/ | 12:24 |
| pitti | asac_: bah | 12:25 |
| asac_ | unfortunate :) | 12:25 |
| seb128 | mvo, pitti: I figured what was the compiz problem, testing change now | 12:25 |
| pitti | asac_: so, what would be so wrong about checking for NULL in the applet? | 12:26 |
| asac_ | pitti: i think it would cure the crash ... but it will hide the real problem (if there is any) | 12:27 |
| pitti | asac_: that is easy and straightforward and at least avoids the crash; question is whether it actually makes those wifis work, of course | 12:27 |
| mvo | seb128: what exactly was the problem (just curious) | 12:27 |
| asac_ | pitti: right ... let me check if the code in applet has changed | 12:27 |
| pitti | asac_: hiding problem> right, but if it makes n-m work for tribe-2, it's more than good enough :) | 12:27 |
| mvo | seb128: or was it local to your install only? | 12:27 |
| asac_ | pitti: maybe its really an applet regression | 12:27 |
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| pitti | asac_: can you ask your tester to give this a whirl? | 12:28 |
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| seb128 | mvo: compiz-0.5.1+git20070618/debian/compiz-gnome.gconf-defaults | 12:28 |
| pitti | asac_: we don't have time to fix the real problem in the keyring now | 12:28 |
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| seb128 | mvo: | 12:28 |
| seb128 | /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edgebutton 1 | 12:28 |
| asac_ | pitti: yes ... have to provide packages though as he cannot build without net ... so he is on sid atm | 12:28 |
| asac_ | :) | 12:28 |
| seb128 | /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_key <Control>F9 | 12:28 |
| pitti | asac_: he needs i386? | 12:28 |
| asac_ | pitti: let me look at the applet code of 0.6.4 ... then i fix and build package for him | 12:28 |
| asac_ | pitti: no amd64 | 12:29 |
| asac_ | fortunately :) | 12:29 |
| pitti | asac_: ah, fine; I can help out with building then, too | 12:29 |
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| pitti | asac: want me to build test packages with that patch? | 12:31 |
| asac | pitti: its not a regression in applet.c ... old code just dereferences without NULL check as well | 12:31 |
| shawarma | mvo: You're on the lamp-server bug? If so, I'll try to get some work done. :) | 12:31 |
| asac | pitti: you do your rm stuff ... i build | 12:31 |
| pitti | asac: ok, appreciated | 12:31 |
| mvo | shawarma: yes, I have a fix here, but I currently trying to understand why its triggered in this situation | 12:34 |
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| shawarma | mvo: What's the fix? | 12:38 |
| mvo | shawarma: it looks its a bug in the regexp that scans the pkgRecords for the task, but I wonder why it is triggered for exactly *this* package | 12:39 |
| mvo | and only on amd64 | 12:39 |
| pitti | mvo: are you sure that the patch fixes the bug? | 12:42 |
| pitti | mvo: I need to hurry up a little, upload to new CDs takes 2 hours | 12:42 |
| mvo | pitti: I'm pretty confident, but give me 10-15 min to be sure | 12:45 |
| pitti | mvo: alright, thanks | 12:45 |
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| seb128 | mvo: could you help me with bzr, | 12:52 |
| seb128 | ? | 12:52 |
| seb128 | mvo: I've the changes ready for compiz but commit doesn't work, cf query :/ | 12:53 |
| pitti | seb128: can I help you? | 12:54 |
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| pitti | hey jono | 12:55 |
| yetanothername | /exit | 12:56 |
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| pitti | ogra: so, you don't want another edubuntu-meta after all? | 12:56 |
| jono | heya pitti | 12:56 |
| ogra | pitti, right | 12:56 |
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| asac_ | pitti: pushed to bzr and uploaded | 01:00 |
| asac_ | pitti: its verified to fix our issues | 01:00 |
| asac_ | and wireless works | 01:00 |
| pitti | asac_: yay, does it work? he can connect to the wep wifi? | 01:00 |
| asac_ | sorry was offline again :( | 01:00 |
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| asac_ | pitti: yes | 01:00 |
| asac_ | pitti: previously it crashed ... not it works | 01:00 |
| asac_ | pitti: package is already uploaded | 01:00 |
| pitti | asac_: so, I propose to add an open gnome-keyring task to that bug, just to not forget about the root cause | 01:01 |
| pitti | and close the applet one with the upload | 01:01 |
| asac_ | pitti: right ... how can i refer to the existing gnome-keyring bug? | 01:01 |
| pitti | asac_: is there one? | 01:01 |
| asac_ | ah right | 01:02 |
| asac_ | :) | 01:02 |
| asac_ | of course there isn't | 01:02 |
| asac_ | sorry | 01:02 |
| asac_ | :) | 01:02 |
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| pitti | asac_: accepted; so we'll close the apport one manually then | 01:02 |
| asac_ | pitti: yes | 01:03 |
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| seb128 | pitti: that's ok, thanks, mvo replied in query | 01:03 |
| asac_ | pitti: btw, can we change auto-dupe detection like this: search for dupe in database ... if there is a bug either use that as master ... or if that bug is already marked as dupe use the original one? | 01:03 |
| iwj | seb128: When we did that disk full testing at uds, did you fill the disk as a normal user or as root ? | 01:03 |
| pitti | asac_: does it need that gnome-keyring fix, too? I wonder whether I should accept it now | 01:03 |
| seb128 | iwj: root | 01:03 |
| asac_ | pitti: in this way we can just merge in the first crash report into existing reports | 01:03 |
| StevenK | pitti: Are we still in that window? | 01:04 |
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| asac_ | without e.g. needing to redupe 190 bugs for some firefox crashes | 01:04 |
| pitti | asac_: yes, I think that's possible; can you please create an apport bug about that? | 01:04 |
| asac_ | pitti: will do | 01:04 |
| iwj | seb128: I think that something must get removed during reboot then. | 01:04 |
| asac_ | pitti: just apport? | 01:04 |
| pitti | StevenK: closing rapidly, as soon as seb128 uploads the compiz fix, I'll start the publisher | 01:04 |
| seb128 | iwj: why? | 01:04 |
| pitti | asac_: yes, that's fine | 01:04 |
| iwj | I just did a similar test (but with the tmpfs on /tmp fix) and it's pretty badly broken. | 01:04 |
| StevenK | pitti: Ah. RAOF_ mentioned getting kvm fixed for tribe-2 | 01:04 |
| StevenK | RAOF_: How long to get it ready for upload? | 01:05 |
| pitti | StevenK: if you have an existing tested patch, please show it to me and get it uploaded ASAP | 01:05 |
| === RAOF_ was just about to say that. The bug in question is #122113 | ||
| pitti | looking | 01:05 |
| RAOF_ | StevenK: It's done, just needs pushing. | 01:05 |
| StevenK | RAOF_: Point me at the source. | 01:06 |
| RAOF_ | bug #122113 | 01:06 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122113 in kvm "[Merge] Please merge kvm-28-4 from Debian Unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122113 | 01:06 |
| pitti | RAOF_, StevenK: oh, that's universe and not subject to freeze; please go ahead and upload | 01:07 |
| StevenK | Ask a stupid question... | 01:07 |
| StevenK | pitti: Aye, will do in a few seconds. | 01:07 |
| RAOF_ | StevenK: That's what you're after, yes? If you wanted to be super thorough, you might want to test it on i386 :) | 01:07 |
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| iwj | seb128: Indeed, my tests confirm: if you fill the disk up with the system booted and then reboot, it works fine. | 01:07 |
| StevenK | RAOF_: I don't have a i386 that has hardware virt. | 01:07 |
| pitti | asac: not sure whether you saw this: <pitti> asac_: does it need that gnome-keyring fix, too? I wonder whether I should accept it now | 01:08 |
| StevenK | Even my amd64 doesn't, sadly. | 01:08 |
| iwj | But if you shut down, and then mount the fs from another install and fill it, and then boot, it breaks badly. | 01:08 |
| pitti | asac: i. e. did your tester check it with the updated gnome-keyring or with the archive one? | 01:08 |
| RAOF_ | pitti: I was the (at least one of the) tester. I tried it with both, and it doesn't seem to need the updated gnome-keyring | 01:08 |
| pitti | RAOF_: ah, thanks | 01:09 |
| RAOF_ | asac's probably lost somewhere in the labarynth of his isp :/ | 01:09 |
| StevenK | Heh | 01:09 |
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| pitti | seb128: so bzr is not blocking you any more? :) good | 01:09 |
| StevenK | RAOF_: Closes: -> LP: | 01:10 |
| seb128 | pitti: no, I was trying to checkout from code.launchpad.net which doesn't work | 01:10 |
| StevenK | RAOF_: Want me to fix that? The rest looks okay. | 01:11 |
| RAOF_ | StevenK: What? It closes #122113, 119254. | 01:11 |
| StevenK | RAOF_: (Closes: #bug) is a Debian-ism. It's (LP: #bug) | 01:12 |
| seb128 | pitti, mvo: compiz uploaded | 01:12 |
| RAOF_ | StevenK: Aaargh. Yes. Please fix that! | 01:12 |
| mvo | seb128: thanks | 01:12 |
| seb128 | mvo: you're welcome | 01:12 |
| RAOF_ | StevenK: You should probably also add (LP: #122113) | 01:12 |
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| mvo | pitti: apt is test-building here, should be ready for upload RSN | 01:12 |
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| pitti | mvo: ok; do you want to have it on the ubuntu CDs as well? If it's just for the server CDs, I'd rather start a publisher now | 01:13 |
| pitti | mvo: then you can have more time for tests | 01:13 |
| mvo | pitti: its a bit of a corner case, so server should be fine | 01:13 |
| pitti | mvo: ok, putting it only on server then | 01:14 |
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| pitti | seb128: the empty line in debian/compiz-gnome.gconf-defaults doesn't hurt, no? | 01:16 |
| seb128 | pitti: no, it doesn't, it was already there | 01:16 |
| seb128 | lunch time | 01:17 |
| pitti | seb128: enjoy! | 01:18 |
| cjwatson | seb128: checkout from code.launchpad.net is supposed to work, I think | 01:18 |
| cjwatson | might want to check with the LP team | 01:18 |
| pitti | cjwatson: it does | 01:19 |
| StevenK | pitti: kvm uploaded, accept at your leisure. | 01:19 |
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| jwendell | dholbach, a doubt: | 01:27 |
| jwendell | dholbach, i'm writing a vnc client well integrated to gnome, which i guess will not get in time to 2.20 | 01:28 |
| jwendell | dholbach, maybe it'll be as part of vino, maybe not | 01:28 |
| dholbach | if not, we could package it and have it in universe, so people can test it and play with it | 01:28 |
| dholbach | what do you think? | 01:28 |
| jwendell | dholbach, yep, that's my doubt ;) | 01:28 |
| dholbach | what doubt do you have? | 01:29 |
| jwendell | dholbach, if it could be packaged into universe | 01:29 |
| dholbach | no problem | 01:29 |
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| dholbach | once you have a release tarball, file a needs-packaging request and maybe ask on ubuntu-motu@ to find somebody to package it - if you don't want to do it on your own | 01:29 |
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| dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates for more info on 'needs-packaging' | 01:30 |
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| jwendell | dholbach, i prefer to concentrate in development | 01:30 |
| dholbach | right-o | 01:30 |
| jwendell | dholbach, upload a new package is boring :( | 01:30 |
| dholbach | alright, well then file a bug and ask people on ubuntu-motu@ for help with that | 01:31 |
| jwendell | dholbach, ok, thanks! | 01:31 |
| mvo | pitti: apt is uploaded, I got for lunch now | 01:32 |
| seb128 | pitti: does "bzr checkout sftp://$YOUR_LP_ID@code.launchpad.net/~compiz/compiz/ubuntu/" work for you? | 01:34 |
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| asac | seb128: should it? pitti isn't in compiz team | 01:39 |
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| seb128 | asac: well, I'm in the compiz team and that timeout, using bazaar.launchpad.net for the checkout works fine though | 01:47 |
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| shawarma | cjwatson: Why do we stick with openssh 4.3? | 01:49 |
| asac | seb128: ah ... yes code.lp.net never worked for me iirc | 01:50 |
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| shawarma | cjwatson: I'm an idiot. Never mind. | 01:52 |
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| shawarma | Hi, Hobbsee! | 01:59 |
| asac | hi Hobbsee | 02:00 |
| cjwatson | shawarma: we don't ;-) | 02:01 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 02:03 |
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| fabbione | hmmmm | 02:05 |
| fabbione | something has changed behavior... | 02:05 |
| shawarma | It's Hobbsee. She's been here for ten minutes and haven't poked anyone with her scary stick yet. | 02:05 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, I usually use 'bzr get http://code....', that works fine | 02:06 |
| Mithrandir | she's not scary, she just pretends to be. :-P | 02:06 |
| seb128 | pitti: you can't commit then though | 02:06 |
| pitti | mvo: thanks! | 02:06 |
| pitti | seb128: right, you need to use bzr push with an URL then; I'm not sure if I ever tried to push to code.lp.net | 02:07 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, my branches have 'publish to branch: sftp://bazaar' | 02:07 |
| seb128 | pitti: use bazaar.launchpad.net I can checkout and then commit | 02:07 |
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| Hobbsee | shawarma: that's because i was grabbing dinner as well, and am dealing in release stuff. | 02:08 |
| seb128 | pitti: I don't want to branch | 02:08 |
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| pitti | seb128: I usually do, so that I can commit offline and push in one chunk; but that's entirely up to your preference | 02:08 |
| shawarma | Um... yay? :/ | 02:08 |
| shawarma | :) | 02:08 |
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| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: you're just disappointed that you dditn get bashed up at UDS. | 02:09 |
| pygi | Hobbsee, ;) | 02:09 |
| seb128 | pitti: well, I wanted to do a 3 lines changes on compiz | 02:09 |
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| pitti | seb128: right, checkout might be more comfortable then | 02:09 |
| shawarma | cjwatson: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/31969 .. Why would we even consider this for openssh? Surely denying users with short passwords access is PAM's job? | 02:09 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 31969 in openssh "Small password should not log in" [Wishlist,New] | 02:09 |
| asac | pitti: i saw that some packages use code.lp.n in control as bzr reference ... i use bazaar.lp.net in my packages (or better of those of my motu student) ... which way to go | 02:10 |
| asac | (i assume we should use the url that you can run bzr branch with) | 02:10 |
| Hobbsee | shawarma: :P | 02:10 |
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| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: ;-) | 02:11 |
| pitti | asac: bzr branch/get works perfectly with http://code, and it's more convenient for clicking on and watching in firefox | 02:12 |
| fabbione | Keybuk: do you happen to remember if you did change behavior of 91-skip-whole-disk.patch when merging? | 02:12 |
| fabbione | Keybuk: AFAIR we did it so that the wholedisk decive was always hidden | 02:13 |
| fabbione | Keybuk: but it seems like they are there again | 02:13 |
| asac | pitti: hmmm ok ... thought it never worked for me ... but maybe i didn't try hard enough :) | 02:13 |
| Keybuk | fabbione: I should not have changed the behaviour ... I left your patch intact | 02:13 |
| cjwatson | shawarma: openssh-server ships the PAM configuration used by sshd; and sshd might reasonably want to have different authentication requirements from e.g. login since it's exposed to the network | 02:13 |
| Keybuk | (and it's since been merged upstream) | 02:13 |
| Keybuk | is the sysfs attribute there as expected | 02:13 |
| Keybuk | it may be that kernel behaviour changed, or udev behaviour changed, in the interpretation on that rule | 02:14 |
| shawarma | cjwatson: True. So it's a discussion of whether we should do so by default? | 02:14 |
| cjwatson | shawarma: mostly I just reopened it because I object to the meme that wishlist bugs should be closed in favour of specifications | 02:15 |
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| fabbione | Keybuk: i don't recall if we were hiding the entire partition from the system (i am pretty sure we did) or just the uuid symlink | 02:15 |
| shawarma | cjwatson: I see. | 02:15 |
| Keybuk | just the uuid symlink | 02:16 |
| fabbione | hmm ok | 02:16 |
| shawarma | cjwatson: I can put a comment in the pam conf saying how to limit access for users with short passwords... | 02:16 |
| Keybuk | the modification was to the persistent storage file | 02:16 |
| fabbione | then it's os-prober being more anal... | 02:16 |
| fabbione | yeps.. | 02:16 |
| fabbione | all good | 02:16 |
| ion_ | I found out why beryl was very smooth but compiz was jerky (low framerate, pauses in movement): i needed to run compiz --indirect-rendering. It might only be subjective, but it almost feels like the fresh version of compiz is even smoother than beryl. | 02:17 |
| ion_ | I guess i should take a closer look at the compiz wrapper to see why it doesnt pass --indirect-rendering automatically. | 02:17 |
| shawarma | meh | 02:17 |
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| ion_ | I reported it as bug #122562. | 02:29 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122562 in compiz "The frame rate is low, unless using --indirect-rendering" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122562 | 02:29 |
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| asac | pitti: on bug 122393 the auto-retracers failed miserably. it was ment as a testbug for apport hooks test and is a dupe of bug 72018 | 02:35 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122393 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122393 | 02:35 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 72018 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@gtk_style_realize] [@nsFilePicker::Show] " [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72018 | 02:35 |
| asac | pitti: i will ask hjmf to retrace this manually ... to see if we get different results | 02:35 |
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| mvo | ion_: let me check | 02:38 |
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| mvo | ion_: do you have numbers? can you please install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra and enable the "benchmark" plugin with compiconfig-settings-maanager? | 02:39 |
| computa_Mike | Having problems compiling a device driver - is this the right place? | 02:39 |
| mvo | ion_: and then compare the performance with and without the option set? | 02:39 |
| ion_ | mvo: Will do. | 02:39 |
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| mvo | ion_: you can enable the benachmark plugin with super (windows) - f12 | 02:41 |
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| computa_Mike | Am I in the wrong forum? | 02:42 |
| dendrobates-bbl | shawarma: I'll be covering from 14:00 to 23:00 gmt. That should give us some good tz coverage. | 02:42 |
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| Pici | computa_Mike: This isnt really a support channel. | 02:44 |
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| ScottK | computa_Mike: Try #ubuntu | 02:44 |
| pitti | asac: only new bugs will be considered as a duplicate; 72018 is way too old | 02:45 |
| computa_Mike | ok - thanks | 02:45 |
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| asac | pitti: no | 02:45 |
| asac | pitti: look at the backtrace | 02:45 |
| ion_ | mvo: --indirect-rendering: 59.9 FPS when idle, 55 59 when typing to this terminal, as well as when switching between workspaces rapidly. The benchmark plugin itself seems to slow everything down quite a bit. My screens refresh rate is 60 Hz. Without --indirect-rendering: about 27 28 FPS when idle, 23 27 when typing. Down to 15 when switching between workspaces rapidly. | 02:45 |
| asac | pitti: (btw, this bug is an example why i want the auto-dupe improvement) :) | 02:46 |
| mvo | ion_: that sounds good, could you please put that into the bugreport? and what driver you are using and what gfxcard | 02:46 |
| ion_ | mvo: Will do. I already mentioned the driver and the card in the report. | 02:46 |
| asac | pitti: the backtrace is just garbage | 02:46 |
| mvo | ion_: right, sorry | 02:47 |
| asac | pitti: same for bug 122525 | 02:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122525 in firefox-granparadiso "firefox-granparadiso-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122525 | 02:47 |
| pitti | asac: oh, I see | 02:47 |
| pitti | asac: WARNING: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc-2.5.so is needed, but cannot be mapped to a package | 02:47 |
| pitti | asac: and lots of similar stuff | 02:47 |
| asac | why? | 02:47 |
| pitti | asac: WARNING: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libclearlooks.so is needed, but cannot be mapped to a package | 02:47 |
| pitti | asac: that looks relevant as well | 02:48 |
| pitti | asac: I don't know | 02:48 |
| asac | pitti: lets see what hjmf gets | 02:48 |
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| asac | pitti: i have the feeling that his retrace looks good | 02:48 |
| asac | ... as always | 02:48 |
| asac | :) | 02:48 |
| pitti | asac: something broken in the Contents.gz parsing, I need to investigate this more closely | 02:48 |
| asac | pitti: anything i can do to boost the improvement in auto-dupe detection? | 02:48 |
| mvo | heno: how do the iso-testing reports with regard to compiz-by-default look so far? | 02:49 |
| asac | i really have a bad feeling about un/re-duping | 02:49 |
| asac | later | 02:49 |
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| pitti | asac: it would require to scan all existing apport bugs, get their stack traces, and feed them through the dup checker; quite a lot of effort (entirely doable, though) | 02:49 |
| asac | pitti: no | 02:50 |
| asac | pitti: i say: just do as now ... but before you mark as dupe you look if the bug found in crash db has a duplicate marked | 02:50 |
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| asac | pitti: in that case use that bug | 02:50 |
| asac | s/has a duplicate marked/has been marked as duplicate/ | 02:50 |
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| pitti | asac: ah, right, that's much easier; as I said, please file an apport bug about this, I'll see to it after tribe | 02:50 |
| mvo | ion_: if you haven't hacked on the compiz.wrapper script already, I can give it a go now to add --indirect-rendering | 02:51 |
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| asac | pitti: ok ... i filed a bug already | 02:51 |
| luisbg | what's the difference betwen trying this https://isotesting.stgraber.org/ and tomorrow's official release of tribe 2? | 02:51 |
| asac | pitti: just thought i might help ... or hilario (as he likes to do python stuff) | 02:51 |
| heno | mvo: seems to have improved after yesterday's fixes; works for me on vbox now for example | 02:51 |
| ion_ | mvo: I havent modified it. | 02:51 |
| ion_ | mvo: Comment posted to the report. | 02:51 |
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| pitti | luisbg: difference is that we can still change the CDs (and will) for fixing critical bugs | 02:51 |
| pitti | luisbg: but we depend on people testing the candidates and telling us about errors | 02:52 |
| StevenK | ... interesting. | 02:52 |
| pitti | luisbg: you can use rsync to upgrade today's images to the final ones tomorrow | 02:52 |
| StevenK | The alt installer shouldn't prompt where to install grub to, right? | 02:52 |
| pitti | asac: oh, sure, if you feel like playing with the code, please go ahead :) | 02:52 |
| heno | we really need to make that distinction more clear somewhere | 02:52 |
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| pitti | StevenK: hm, only in expert mode normally | 02:53 |
| asac | pitti: will let you know ;) | 02:53 |
| heno | the mirrors were asking for their tribe2 ISOs too :) | 02:53 |
| luisbg | pitti, ok cool, do you know anything about a network manager bug I've heard? | 02:53 |
| StevenK | pitti: Not expert mode. | 02:53 |
| pitti | luisbg: crash on connecting to WEP/WPA networks? | 02:54 |
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| cjwatson | StevenK: it can do, depending | 02:55 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: Worth a bug report? | 02:55 |
| pitti | ogra, heno, *: FYI, I trigger new ubuntu and edubuntu CDs now | 02:55 |
| cjwatson | StevenK: not typically | 02:55 |
| luisbg | pitti, yeap | 02:55 |
| cjwatson | it's a legitimate case | 02:56 |
| ogra | tsk, i installed to a USB disk but had a grub error on the USB port it was plugged in after install ... i only could boot after changing the port | 02:56 |
| pitti | luisbg: that should be fixed on the CDs I'll build now | 02:56 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: Okay, cool. | 02:56 |
| luisbg | pitti, let me know when they are built =) | 02:56 |
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| luisbg | pitti, so I can test them today | 02:56 |
| luisbg | hello _MMA_ =) | 02:56 |
| pitti | luisbg: will do | 02:56 |
| _MMA_ | Hola | 02:57 |
| cjwatson | StevenK: if it can't figure out how to create boot stanzas for everything on the disk, it'll jump straight to the manual prompt for a boot device | 02:57 |
| mvo | ion_: --indirect-rendering should be working now, I just commited a fix for it to bzr | 02:57 |
| luisbg | pitti, will open a new page in the laptoptesting wiki page for my laptop and gutsy... cool? | 02:57 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: Right, fair enough. | 02:57 |
| pitti | luisbg: sounds good (I'm not familiar with the structure of those pages, though) | 02:58 |
| luisbg | ok ok | 02:58 |
| luisbg | dholbach, ping | 02:59 |
| dholbach | luisbg: pong | 02:59 |
| luisbg | dholbach, that was fast! LOL | 02:59 |
| dholbach | was that all? :) | 02:59 |
| luisbg | dholbach, you didn't attend the derivatives meeting on sunday | 02:59 |
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| dholbach | luisbg: I know - I said so by mail, that I wouldn't have time on sunday - but I read the minutes | 02:59 |
| iwj | Oh dear, I need to wait for glibc to build again. | 03:00 |
| luisbg | dholbach, ahhh ok cool then | 03:00 |
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| luisbg | dholbach, you have read we created an irc channel then | 03:00 |
| iwj | So much for getting that trace data today. | 03:00 |
| davmor2 | hi devs. Just doing iso-testing 26.2 nm-applet is crashing out horribly I have an apport trace and am about to report the bug is there any other info you need for it? | 03:01 |
| dholbach | luisbg: yeah, I did - I was just busy with all the other irc channels I'm in already | 03:01 |
| seb128 | davmor2: I think there is already a stack of duplicates of nm crashers | 03:01 |
| luisbg | dholbach, I understand, don't expect you to be in it | 03:01 |
| iwj | pitti: FAOD, my sysvinit upload, just done, does not need to go into Tribe 2. | 03:01 |
| pitti | davmor2: with 90% probability it's the bug that is fixed in the archive now | 03:01 |
| luisbg | dholbach, just wanted to know if you have seen the small progress =) | 03:01 |
| pitti | davmor2: can you please dist-upgrade and check again? | 03:01 |
| seb128 | davmor2: is that bug #121228? | 03:01 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 121228 in network-manager "[gutsy] segfault retrieving passphrase for WiFi network" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121228 | 03:01 |
| pitti | iwj: noted | 03:01 |
| dholbach | luisbg: alright - but I'm very happy the meeting went all right | 03:01 |
| luisbg | dholbach, there was more attendance than I expected, to be sincere | 03:02 |
| pitti | davmor2: you can dist-upgrade on the live CD as well, FYI | 03:02 |
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| dholbach | luisbg: I'm sure the next one will be even better | 03:02 |
| luisbg | dholbach, yeah, got to decide when is that happening, will send an email this sunday for that, we have to decide the frequency of the meetings | 03:02 |
| davmor2 | pitti: works on the cd fails after install | 03:03 |
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| davmor2 | I think it is an issue with nm connecting to keyring | 03:03 |
| pitti | davmor2: dist-upgrade on the installed system and restart your session -> does that help? | 03:03 |
| dholbach | luisbg: maybe we should make a call for agenda items before we decide on the meeting | 03:03 |
| pitti | davmor2: please note that you need to have archive.u.c. in apt sources; a mirror won't work | 03:03 |
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| pitti | davmor2: that's the bug we just fixed | 03:03 |
| luisbg | dholbach, yeah true | 03:04 |
| davmor2 | pitti: okay I'll get back to you | 03:04 |
| pitti | asac: hm, I wonder why that n-m upload didn't close the bug | 03:04 |
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| seb128 | pitti: because the upload is network-manager-applet and the task is on network-manager | 03:05 |
| pitti | asac: ah, did you close #121228 or #122385? | 03:05 |
| seb128 | the components don't match | 03:05 |
| pitti | seb128: so he probably closed #121228 | 03:05 |
| seb128 | yes | 03:05 |
| seb128 | * debian/patches/01_static_network-admin.patch: fix by Peter | 03:05 |
| seb128 | Clifton; adding NULL check to stop nm-applet from crashing | 03:05 |
| seb128 | and make encrypted wifi work. (LP: #121228) | 03:05 |
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| dholbach | luisbg: I think firstly we should update the wiki and only have items in it, we're actively following | 03:06 |
| dholbach | luisbg: and then go from there - lay out a structure for the knowledge base and ask people to help us filling the gaps | 03:07 |
| luisbg | dholbach, OK, I finish my last exam on saturday | 03:07 |
| dholbach | take your time with that :-) | 03:07 |
| luisbg | dholbach, I will day a major wiki clean up and organization on sunday | 03:07 |
| dholbach | and luisbg: all the best! | 03:07 |
| dholbach | rock on :-) | 03:07 |
| luisbg | dholbach, thanks =) | 03:07 |
| pitti | seb128: I mangled the bugs accordingly; I also added a gnome-keyring task | 03:08 |
| seb128 | pitti: k | 03:08 |
| pitti | heno, luisbg, bdmurray, mvo, all: new ubuntu alternates are up for testing: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20070627/ | 03:10 |
| luisbg | pitti, cool, will give it a try in like 2 hours | 03:10 |
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| ion_ | mvo: When the script reaches build_args, $INDIRECT is 1. | 03:10 |
| pitti | luisbg: you might want to wait for the new live CDs | 03:10 |
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| naufraghi | hello!, some hint to debug a qt4 app using libqt4-debug package? | 03:11 |
| davmor2 | pitti: just downloaded a nm-gnome update is that the right one | 03:12 |
| pitti | davmor2: yes | 03:12 |
| pitti | erk, since when do we ship xterm by default? and, much more importantly, why does it appear in apps -> system tools? | 03:12 |
| luisbg | pitti, oops, when are the live ones coming? | 03:12 |
| pitti | luisbg: maybe 30 minutes | 03:13 |
| luisbg | pitti, awesome | 03:13 |
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| pitti | luisbg: testing live is easier wrt. testing network-manager and compiz, but testing alternates is appreciated, too, of course | 03:13 |
| davmor2 | pitti: 0.6.5-0ubuntu4 correct | 03:13 |
| mvo | ion_: oh? check_tfp() should set that INDIRECT=0 if LIBGL_ALWAY_INDIRECT is set | 03:14 |
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| pitti | davmor2: confirmed | 03:14 |
| heno | pitti: posted | 03:14 |
| luisbg | pitti, I understand | 03:14 |
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| davmor2 | pitti: working but I'll just try one more reboot to make sure | 03:14 |
| pitti | mvo: ah, apt has built, publishing binaries now | 03:15 |
| ion_ | mvo: glxinfo | grep GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap succeeds, so check_tfp doesnt touch INDIRECT. | 03:16 |
| pitti | ogra, heno, LaserJock: new edubuntu alternates up for testing: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/20070627/ | 03:20 |
| seb128 | pitti: have autosyncs stopped already? | 03:22 |
| pitti | seb128: well, they need to be driven by hand anyway | 03:22 |
| seb128 | pitti: that I know, but we have sync request about non ubuntu versions | 03:22 |
| seb128 | I'm wondering if I should sync them manually | 03:23 |
| pitti | seb128: ISTR that we previously stopped them at UVF, but we have a DebianImportFreeze on the schedule now, which is already past; Keybuk? | 03:23 |
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| seb128 | if that's the case mailing ubuntu-devel-announce would be a good diea | 03:23 |
| seb128 | idea | 03:23 |
| ogra | pitti, ergh | 03:24 |
| ogra | 709M ?? | 03:24 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, right, I guess DebianImportFreeze is the autosync, UVF the time until which manual syncs can be done without fuss | 03:24 |
| pitti | ogra: weird; only new versions of compiz and n-m | 03:24 |
| davmor2 | pitti: seem to work although I am having to type in my password for the connection each time rather than the keyring | 03:24 |
| ogra | gah | 03:24 |
| seb128 | it's early to stop autosyncs :/ | 03:25 |
| ogra | /pool/main/m/mesa/libgl1-mesa-dri_6.5.3-1ubuntu1_i386.deb | 03:25 |
| ogra | when did i merge that, damned | 03:25 |
| pitti | ogra: if it's only the alternates, they are cheap to rebuild | 03:25 |
| ogra | well, i need to get rid of -dri for now | 03:25 |
| pitti | ogra: I already queued live rebuilds, I'll try to kill them | 03:26 |
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| ogra | i dont understand how it got in, thats my prob | 03:26 |
| ogra | i just added it to the seeds 2h ago and didnt rebuild -meta | 03:26 |
| ogra | it shouldnt be there | 03:26 |
| pitti | ogra: hm, indeed | 03:27 |
| ogra | is it a dep of anthing suddenly ? | 03:27 |
| pitti | not according to apt-cache rdepends libgl1-mesa-dri | 03:27 |
| ogra | hmm | 03:28 |
| pitti | ogra: it's on the amd64 one as well, it just doesn't overflow there | 03:30 |
| ogra | yeah | 03:30 |
| ogra | well, i left it deliberately out | 03:30 |
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| ogra | are the recommands read during cd buildtime or something ? | 03:31 |
| pitti | ogra: I am not entirely sure whether cdimage only uses ubuntu-meta or also considers the bzr seeds for building imagees | 03:31 |
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| ogra | yeah, thats what i suspected, even though its the meta package ... | 03:32 |
| ogra | it shouldnt be affected by cdimage | 03:32 |
| pitti | cjwatson, Mithrandir: does cdimage consider committed seed changes which haven't been manifested in -meta? | 03:32 |
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| cjwatson | pitti: for building images, it considers the seeds - though note that removals that haven't been committed to -meta won't take effect because the metapackages will still pull them in | 03:33 |
| pitti | ah, that explains it | 03:33 |
| pitti | cjwatson: thanks | 03:33 |
| cjwatson | seeds and -meta should really be consistent for releases though | 03:33 |
| cjwatson | I wouldn't like to guarantee exactly what uses Task headers | 03:33 |
| ogra | cjwatson, it was no removal, it wasnt added to the seeds before the last meta build | 03:34 |
| ogra | i added it afterwards to not forget about it after tribe2 | 03:34 |
| Keybuk | pitti: DebianImportFreeze is the date to stop the manual autosyncs | 03:34 |
| ogra | meta has never seen it ... | 03:34 |
| pitti | Keybuk: right, thanks | 03:35 |
| cjwatson | ogra: the image build process should pull it in then | 03:35 |
| ogra | ah | 03:36 |
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| ogra | pitti, seeds changed back ... can you trigger an alternate build ? | 03:37 |
| pitti | ogra: I think I need a publisher run first; still remember the last time we wondered about that? :) | 03:37 |
| ogra | ah, right | 03:38 |
| pitti | cjwatson: ^ actually, manually running cron.germinate might even be sufficient? | 03:38 |
| pitti | ogra: oh, you are lucky, the current publisher didn't run cron.germinate yet | 03:38 |
| pitti | so it'll come to that soon | 03:38 |
| ogra | take your time :) | 03:38 |
| cjwatson | pitti: an actual package needs to be published | 03:39 |
| pitti | ok, will do that then | 03:39 |
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| cjwatson | running cron.germinate isn't sufficient - the problem is getting the distroarchseries to be marked dirty so that apt-ftparchive is run | 03:39 |
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| pitti | ogra: erk, sorry, edubuntu live fs are just triggered; apparently pressing ^C in bash only kills the current command in a chain, not the entire chain | 03:43 |
| ogra | well | 03:43 |
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| pitti | ogra: but *shrug*, I'll build new ones after that and a publisher run | 03:43 |
| ogra | just wasted DC time ... | 03:43 |
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| pitti | heno, mvo, luisbg, all: new ubuntu live CDs up for testing: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20070627/ | 03:52 |
| luisbg | pitti, awesome! will try in a short bit | 03:52 |
| mvo | pitti: rsyncing | 03:54 |
| agoliveira | pitti: I'll give it a shot in my macbook later. | 03:55 |
| heno | pitti: posted | 03:55 |
| pitti | heno: cheers | 03:55 |
| heno | (and syncing :) ) | 03:55 |
| pitti | heno: can you please invalidate the edubuntu server ones? | 03:55 |
| pitti | heno: they need another rebuild to kick libgl1-mesa-dri (overflow) | 03:56 |
| heno | yep | 03:56 |
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| heno | oh, I actually refrained from ever posting those when I saw that mentioned here | 03:57 |
| ogra | yeah they are still in rebuild state ... | 03:58 |
| pitti | ah, I see | 03:58 |
| ogra | even though 06.2 was fine | 03:58 |
| pitti | they don't even appear at all here | 03:58 |
| ogra | select edubuntu at the top :) | 03:58 |
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| cjwatson | lamont: any luck on getting livecd-rootfs changes merged up? | 04:02 |
| cjwatson | lamont: I don't see anything in the branch on LP | 04:02 |
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| pitti | heno, shawarma, mathiaz, fabbione: new ubuntu server images up for testing: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/20070627/ | 04:07 |
| pitti | this time, hopefully, with 'P' in LAMP for 'PHP' :) | 04:07 |
| dendrobates | pitti: don't forget about me :0 | 04:08 |
| pitti | dendrobates: oh, indeed :) if you have some time for testing, that would be appreciated | 04:08 |
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| pitti | mathiaz is already booting them, I hope :-P | 04:09 |
| === mvo rsync the server images | ||
| evand | pitti: I see bug #122518, but are there any other issues you experienced with the installer? Are you still having the partitioner issues? | 04:11 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122518 in ubiquity "canceling the language support download gives confusing error message" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122518 | 04:11 |
| pitti | mvo: how do the desktops look like? | 04:11 |
| shawarma | mvo: Did you find out what triggered the task bug? | 04:12 |
| pitti | evand: #122518 is low-prio, of course | 04:12 |
| pitti | evand: the manual partitioner hang doesn't happen in vmware, only on my real system, I didn't hear any other reports about it, and I wasn't able to track it down | 04:12 |
| pitti | evand: UBIQUITY_DEBUG=1 made it disappear, next time I'll try with --debug (as recommended by Colin) | 04:13 |
| evand | hrm, I did hear one other report of it, but they were unable to reproduce it. (Not sure if it's even the same issue) | 04:13 |
| evand | ok | 04:13 |
| mvo | pitti: still burning | 04:13 |
| pitti | evand: however, I still need some time before I can try the current daily on real hw | 04:13 |
| agoliveira | pitti: It happened to me yesterday but the second time I tried to see if I could catch what happened, it just wnet by nicelly. | 04:13 |
| evand | fair enough | 04:13 |
| mvo | shawarma: yes, the pkgRecord had a missing \n at the end, but not sure why this happend | 04:13 |
| nxvl | today is the hug day, isn't it? | 04:14 |
| shawarma | pkgRecord? | 04:14 |
| pitti | mvo: ah, that explains the \n -> $ | 04:14 |
| mvo | yes | 04:14 |
| shawarma | Ah, I get it. | 04:14 |
| shawarma | Not why it fails, but what you mean, that is. | 04:15 |
| ion_ | mvo: Did you notice what i said about check_tfp? The texture_from_pixmap test succeeds, so INDIRECT isnt touched at all. | 04:15 |
| mvo | its still a bit mysterious | 04:15 |
| mvo | ion_: sorry. hm, it is set for me on my r200 ati system. you do not happen to run xgl, do you? | 04:16 |
| ion_ | mvo: Nope, no Xgl. | 04:16 |
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| mvo | ion_: LIBGL_ALWAY_INDIRECT somewhere in the environment (maybe as a leftover from a earlier run?) | 04:16 |
| ion_ | mvo: The output of sh -x compiz is attached to the bug report. | 04:16 |
| ion_ | mvo: Nope. | 04:17 |
| mvo | ion_: hm, I will have to look closer at this then | 04:17 |
| dendrobates | has https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap2/+bug/58487 been discussed? This only applies to the version of openldap in dapper. what is the policy on upgrading packages in the LTS . | 04:17 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 58487 in php5 "php5-ldap fails with official (chained) certificate" [Undecided,New] | 04:17 |
| dendrobates | ha. | 04:17 |
| dendrobates | I love that bot. | 04:18 |
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| ScottK | dendrobates: Look on wiki.ubuntu.com for policies on backports (new versions) and SRU (fixes to stable releases). | 04:18 |
| dendrobates | thx. | 04:18 |
| pitti | dendrobates: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates, in particular | 04:19 |
| pitti | dendrobates: there is /Motu/SRU, too, for universe packages | 04:19 |
| pitti | evand: do you have an idea what I could do when I encounter this? | 04:19 |
| pitti | evand: well, if you want, I'll hop on IRC while being on the live CD and get this error, to talk to you | 04:19 |
| heno | pitti: both i386 and amd64 desktops are installing nicely here | 04:20 |
| pitti | yay | 04:20 |
| pitti | heno: I currently run amd64 alt/desktop tests in vmware, will do an amd64/live on real iron soon | 04:20 |
| heno | (i386 in vbox amd on hw) | 04:20 |
| pitti | rock | 04:20 |
| evand | pitti: encounter the partitioning issue? Running the installer with --debug and attaching /var/log/installer/debug, /var/log/syslog, and /var/log/partman should be a reasonable start. | 04:21 |
| pitti | evand: right, if the hang doesn't disappear again with debugging enabled :) | 04:21 |
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| evand | heh | 04:21 |
| pitti | heno: no more troubles with hanging splash, compiz, or network-manager? | 04:22 |
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| heno | pitti: no hanging splash, n-m only tested with wired networks, compiz not expected to work on vbox (what about amd64,should it work there?) | 04:24 |
| pitti | heno: right, the fact that compiz does *not* enable on a box that doesn't support composite is the key here :) | 04:25 |
| heno | ok, then we are good | 04:25 |
| pitti | heno: in general, compiz works on amd64, too, same hw/driver situation as on i386 | 04:25 |
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| pitti | finally some light at the end of the tunnel | 04:25 |
| heno | I did have all the boot loop problems yesterday on this vbox setup | 04:25 |
| pitti | me too here (vmware and real hw) | 04:26 |
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| dendrobates | ScottK: I just updated #58487. | 04:31 |
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| ScottK | OK. Bug triage should be discussed in #ubuntu-bugs. I am there too. | 04:32 |
| mvo | pitti: desktop-i386 on nvidia success here too | 04:32 |
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| pitti | mvo: me not much mind at now time | 04:33 |
| mvo | yoda! | 04:34 |
| pitti | "Dark the other side is!" | 04:34 |
| mvo | "little endian we hate" | 04:34 |
| pitti | "Be quiet, Yoda, and eat your toast!" | 04:34 |
| cjwatson | mvo: is bug 122518 an apt bug? surely failed fetch shouldn't imply package in broken state | 04:34 |
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| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122518 in ubiquity "canceling the language support download gives confusing error message" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122518 | 04:34 |
| kylem | haha. | 04:34 |
| mvo | cjwatson: let me check | 04:34 |
| mvo | pitti: LOL | 04:34 |
| gicmo | my network-manager + keyring problem is still there ;-/ | 04:38 |
| pitti | gicmo: <Jedi wave>no, it's not</Jedi wave> | 04:38 |
| pitti | gicmo: which CD version? | 04:39 |
| gicmo | cd version? I am gutsy here | 04:39 |
| gicmo | wants to access password for " in (null) | 04:39 |
| pitti | gicmo: ah; which network-manager-gnome version? | 04:39 |
| gicmo | "Allow always" -> crash | 04:39 |
| gicmo | 0.6.5-0ubuntu3 | 04:40 |
| ulaas | pitti, was there yesterday night it is.... | 04:40 |
| gicmo | (I just updated and rebooted, still there) | 04:40 |
| pitti | gicmo: right, that's the crashing one; you want 0.6.5-0ubuntu4 | 04:41 |
| Keybuk | "upgrade you must, hmm?" | 04:41 |
| gicmo | pitti, where do I get it? | 04:41 |
| pitti | dark the old version is | 04:41 |
| gicmo | ;-) | 04:41 |
| gicmo | I gues its totally fresh and hot | 04:41 |
| gicmo | guess | 04:41 |
| pitti | gicmo: yes, careful you need to be | 04:42 |
| mvo | cjwatson: is scritps/install.py responsible for installing the additional languages? (re #122518) | 04:42 |
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| pitti | gicmo: you need archive.ubuntu.com in apt sources, mirrors are too old | 04:42 |
| ulaas | pitti, cant wait to go home then master... | 04:42 |
| Keybuk | Rosetta is sorely let down by its inability to let us translate Ubuntu into en_Yoda | 04:42 |
| gicmo | i c | 04:42 |
| kylem | Keybuk, *HA* | 04:42 |
| pitti | ulaas, gicmo: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/network-manager-applet/ | 04:42 |
| gicmo | ohh, brightness control also stopped working and I get tons of crash reports, fun, fun, fun | 04:42 |
| pitti | gicmo: just click on the right package there and let gdebi do its magic | 04:43 |
| gicmo | pitti: thanks | 04:43 |
| Hobbsee | Keybuk: *grin* | 04:43 |
| ulaas | pitti, i thought that it was the keyring. no? | 04:43 |
| gicmo | ulaas: it looks like keyring + nm interaction here | 04:43 |
| pitti | ulaas: it still is, but circumventing the crash in n-m-applet was much easier (and possible for tribe-2 in the first place) | 04:44 |
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| cjwatson | mvo: yes, install_language_packs() | 04:45 |
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| ulaas | pitti, one last question.. how will the conservative approach to licenses will affect us? (ordinary people not jedi...) | 04:47 |
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| Hobbsee | heno: which bits are you testing? | 04:50 |
| heno | Hobbsee: which ISOs or which functionality? | 04:51 |
| cjwatson | ulaas: I don't expect the standard Ubuntu distribution will change in any particularly visible way | 04:51 |
| Hobbsee | heno: er. well, with hte ubuntu desktop i386, which tests are you doing? | 04:51 |
| cjwatson | ulaas: the proposal is for a more conservative variant | 04:51 |
| heno | Hobbsee: live CD, erase disk, check cd | 04:51 |
| Hobbsee | heno: right. so you're VBing then, and it's worth testing on a installed system? | 04:52 |
| ulaas | cjwatson, ah it is a variant. not gutsy itself.... | 04:52 |
| ulaas | cjwatson, ok with me then. u shall proceed.... :) | 04:53 |
| heno | Hobbsee: yes please (I was just getting to that as well) | 04:53 |
| Hobbsee | okay | 04:53 |
| heno | but some extra testing is always good | 04:53 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm... | 04:54 |
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| shawarma | pitti: Done testing server images on i386 and amd64. Everything seems to be good now. | 04:55 |
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| pitti | shawarma: finally | 04:59 |
| pitti | ulaas: what do you mean? | 05:00 |
| pitti | shawarma: thanks | 05:00 |
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| shawarma | pitti: np | 05:02 |
| hunger | Will vmware be part of gutsy again? | 05:04 |
| pitti | hunger: 'again'? | 05:04 |
| hunger | pitti: apt-get install vmware-player used to work on feisty:-) | 05:05 |
| hunger | pitti: That is support enough for me;-) | 05:05 |
| pitti | heno, ogra, bdmurray, LaserJock: new edubuntu server ISOs up for testing, this time without overflow: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily/20070627.1/ | 05:06 |
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| pitti | hunger: ah, I see | 05:07 |
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| hunger | pitti: Currently the modules are not up to date or so it seems. | 05:08 |
| ulaas | pitti, cjwatson replied. thanks for thinking.... | 05:08 |
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| pitti | ulaas: ah, reading backscroll now | 05:09 |
| ogra | yay | 05:09 |
| ogra | pitti, thanks :) | 05:09 |
| pitti | ogra: ETA 15 minutes for the lives | 05:09 |
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| dholbach | congratulations nixternal | 05:16 |
| dholbach | congratulations calc | 05:16 |
| mvo | pitti: feisty->tribe-2 upgrade works fine | 05:17 |
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| pitti | mvo: yay | 05:18 |
| pitti | does anyone feel like creating a tribe-2 testing wiki page? | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | what for? | 05:19 |
| pitti | for ubuntu | 05:19 |
| pitti | similar to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Tribe1 | 05:19 |
| Hobbsee | oh right | 05:20 |
| pitti | heno, ogra, LaserJock: new edubuntu live CDs for testing: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily-live/20070627.1/ | 05:21 |
| pitti | heno: that's the last set of images, we have a complete set again | 05:21 |
| heno | pitti: ok, let me go through the tracker and make sure it matches reality :) | 05:22 |
| ogra | pitti, that should be 27.2 | 05:22 |
| ogra | 27.1 is from this afternoon | 05:22 |
| pitti | ogra: erm? | 05:23 |
| ogra | and i dont see .2 yet | 05:23 |
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| pitti | ogra: I stopped building it | 05:23 |
| ogra | hmm, it created the dir | 05:23 |
| ogra | gutsy-desktop-i386.iso 27-Jun-2007 14:45 690M | 05:24 |
| pitti | ogra: well, it doesn't have libgl1-mesa-dri, isn't oversized, so it should be good :) | 05:24 |
| pitti | ogra: and I don't remember seeing the dir before | 05:24 |
| ogra | well, indeed *g* | 05:24 |
| ogra | you built the live iso after the server iso, didnt you ? | 05:25 |
| ogra | the server iso has a timpestamp for 15:45 | 05:25 |
| pitti | ogra: f***, it has an outdated network-manager-gnome | 05:25 |
| pitti | ogra: right | 05:25 |
| iwj | mvo: That bug that we thought was related to the expo compiz plugin seems to have come back for me. | 05:25 |
| iwj | On the same system where we fixed it on Monday. | 05:25 |
| mvo | iwj: hm, no good. same symptoms? | 05:26 |
| iwj | I haven't updated the machine since Monday but I have installed a couple of packages and messed with the libc. | 05:26 |
| iwj | Yes. | 05:26 |
| iwj | C-A-B and then log in again fixes it for one go, as previously. | 05:26 |
| mvo | strace futex hang? | 05:26 |
| pitti | ogra: ah, silly me, nevermind | 05:26 |
| iwj | I've checked the global.xml and it still has expo disabled. | 05:26 |
| pitti | ogra: I built the live CD image, but didn't run cron.daily_live yet | 05:26 |
| mvo | iwj: you have the latest compiz and plugin packages? | 05:26 |
| iwj | No. | 05:26 |
| ogra | pitti, ... happens :) | 05:27 |
| iwj | Well, I don't have anything you uploaded since we last talked about this. | 05:27 |
| mvo | iwj: could you please try to upgrade to those? | 05:27 |
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| iwj | OK, I can do that right now if no-one has updated libc since ... | 05:27 |
| mlind2 | hiya, could someone of the core-devs poke a buildd farm to rebuild libcairo 1.4.8-1. | 05:28 |
| mlind2 | The FTBFS issue because of libdirectfb-dev was fixed by pitti with a recent directfb upload. thanks in advance. | 05:28 |
| pitti | mlind2: done | 05:28 |
| mlind2 | cheers! | 05:29 |
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| alex-weej | how do i build a source package that i've hacked up | 05:31 |
| alex-weej | i tried debuild but it whinged that i wasn't sebastian bacher | 05:32 |
| alex-weej | (i don't have his secret key to sign the package) | 05:32 |
| Mithrandir | alex-weej: that's fine, it built the package fine | 05:32 |
| alex-weej | Mithrandir: so it did. thanks. | 05:32 |
| iwj | pitti: Hmm, it's not doing it now. It has the feel of something intermittent so I'll keep an eye out. | 05:33 |
| iwj | (now = after getting the new compiz packages) | 05:34 |
| pitti | iwj: let's hope for the best then | 05:34 |
| pitti | heno, ogra, LaserJock: new edubuntu live CDs for testing: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/daily-live/20070627.2/ (for real this time) | 05:35 |
| ogra | :) | 05:35 |
| pitti | this time with the unscrewed n-m applet | 05:35 |
| ogra | and they behave in size ... nice, thanks :) | 05:35 |
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| bethko | Hello | 05:42 |
| bethko | Where should I be to talk about web cam plug in play support for Ubuntu? It is really needed. | 05:43 |
| pitti | asac: congrats, your keyring patch was applied upstream already | 05:43 |
| asac | pitti: oh ... that was quick | 05:44 |
| mvo | hm, about ubuntu still says 7.04 | 05:44 |
| nixternal | dholbach: thank you! | 05:44 |
| seb128 | asac: I told you, upstream is active ;) | 05:45 |
| seb128 | usually GNOME guys are quick | 05:45 |
| pitti | mvo: sounds like a good tribe-3 bug | 05:45 |
| dholbach | nixternal: :-) | 05:45 |
| seb128 | pitti: is 2.6.22-7 the version supposed to fix apport? | 05:45 |
| bethko | Has the 7.10 About page even been written? | 05:45 |
| pitti | seb128: in theory, yes; at least it passes the test suites again on powerpc and amd64 | 05:46 |
| Hobbsee | bethko: unlikely...why would it have? | 05:46 |
| seb128 | pitti: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-mixer/+bug/122608 | 05:46 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122608 in xfce4-mixer "xfce4-mixer-plugin crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New] | 05:46 |
| seb128 | pitti: is signal5 supposed to get a crashdump also? | 05:46 |
| asac | seb128: hehe ... i can only dream of that for mozilla devs :) | 05:46 |
| bethko | Well that would explain it mvo | 05:46 |
| pitti | seb128: indeed I saw a few bugs with broken core dumps on -7; NFC | 05:46 |
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| seb128 | "NFC"? | 05:47 |
| pitti | seb128: I don't know | 05:47 |
| seb128 | k | 05:47 |
| bethko | Still best to put it in a bug anyways so it is not forgotten about | 05:47 |
| pitti | seb128: hmm, signal 5 is a SIGTRAP | 05:47 |
| pitti | seb128: No f*** clue | 05:48 |
| bethko | I'm an editor, the only code I do is html and basic | 05:48 |
| Hobbsee | ie, NFI | 05:48 |
| seb128 | pitti: ah ;) | 05:48 |
| bethko | like gw basic | 05:48 |
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| Hobbsee | mvo: 7.10 doesnt exist yet. | 05:49 |
| Treenaks | bethko: that's SO 20th century! :) | 05:49 |
| bethko | lol | 05:49 |
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| bethko | I've been using computers since I was 2 year old. And that was back in 84 | 05:50 |
| bethko | Ok, so who do I talk to about webcams? | 05:51 |
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| bethko | You know with youtube and all I would think someone would be on top of this. | 05:52 |
| Hobbsee | bethko: likely you should be that someone. dont know who specifically to talk to | 05:53 |
| Hobbsee | besides, youtube is flash. | 05:53 |
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| aquo | hi | 05:54 |
| aquo | i have a question refering to http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/bzr/cdimage/mainline/bin/cron.daily | 05:55 |
| aquo | there is a line | 05:55 |
| aquo | PATH="$CDIMAGE_ROOT/bin:${PATH:+:$PATH}" | 05:55 |
| aquo | what is this parameter substitution for? | 05:56 |
| aquo | i don't understand the usage of the + | 05:56 |
| kitche | + might be for concat? | 05:57 |
| aquo | bash manual says ${parameter:+word} | 05:57 |
| aquo | Use Alternate Value. If parameter is null or unset, nothing is | 05:57 |
| aquo | substituted, otherwise the expansion of word is substituted. | 05:57 |
| kitche | I never really looked at bash to closely | 05:57 |
| aquo | if $path is null or unset --> PATH="$CDIMAGE_ROOT/bin::" | 05:58 |
| aquo | aehm ... | 05:59 |
| Treenaks | aquo: no, if $path is null or unset PATH="$CDIMAGE_ROOT/bin:" | 06:00 |
| aquo | aehm, yes | 06:00 |
| aquo | you are right | 06:00 |
| nxvl | is someone working on openssh bugs so i can join them? | 06:01 |
| aquo | but if path is not empty the result is $CDIMAGE_ROOT::$PATH | 06:01 |
| nxvl | in the wiki are marked in green the resolved bug or the ones someone is working on? | 06:03 |
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| bethko | Youtube being flash does not help if you want to put up a video and all you have is a webcam and a computer running ubuntu | 06:08 |
| bethko | I work with the Deaf, they use sign language | 06:09 |
| bethko | Hell the webcams don't even work with the Ekiga phone software that is installed by DEFAULT! | 06:10 |
| kitche | well considering he linux kernel has support for 389 webcams your webcam is probably one of the few that doesn't have drivers | 06:11 |
| cjwatson | alex-weej: you can use 'debuild -b -uc -us' to avoid that message | 06:11 |
| alex-weej | what do those flags mean? | 06:11 |
| cjwatson | I've resolved aquo's bug above | 06:11 |
| cjwatson | alex-weej: man dpkg-buildpackage | 06:11 |
| bethko | It's a logitech | 06:13 |
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| bethko | And I've tryed onther cams | 06:13 |
| ogra | alex-weej, or if you own a key you could also -k<your_mail_address> and sign with your own one | 06:14 |
| alex-weej | i don't do any of that yet | 06:14 |
| alex-weej | way too complicated | 06:14 |
| mvo | cjwatson: I updated #122518 | 06:15 |
| geser | alex-weej: -uc = don't sign the .changes file, -us = don't sign the .dsc file | 06:17 |
| alex-weej | ta | 06:17 |
| cjwatson | mvo: oh, right, I see | 06:18 |
| cjwatson | mvo: is IOError raised for anything other than fetch exceptions? | 06:18 |
| mvo | cjwatson: no, only then | 06:18 |
| cjwatson | I could just silently ignore that | 06:18 |
| mvo | cjwatson: but I'm happy to add something for user-cancelt here too if you want it | 06:19 |
| cjwatson | maybe that would be cleaner | 06:19 |
| cjwatson | can it be a subclass of IOError so that old code keeps on working? | 06:19 |
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| mvo | cjwatson:sure, I will do that tomorrow then | 06:19 |
| cjwatson | great, thanks | 06:19 |
| mvo | np | 06:19 |
| mvo | iwj: did new compiz-love helped you? | 06:20 |
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| iwj | mvo: Yes, it seemed to help. It still feels like an intermittent problem. I wasn't writing down everything that happened and it's confused by a separate X server bug. | 06:22 |
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| iwj | I'll keep an eye on it and let you know if it does anything else wrong. | 06:23 |
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| aquo | hi | 06:32 |
| aquo | another question for http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/bzr/cdimage/ | 06:32 |
| pochu | pitti: apport seems to be uploading bug crashes without coredumps. Are you aware of it? | 06:32 |
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| aquo | the scripts use a program with the name lockfile | 06:32 |
| pitti | pochu: aware yes, but I don't know why it still happens on the 2.6.22-7 kernel | 06:32 |
| aquo | it is not installed on my system, where do i get this? | 06:33 |
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| pitti | aquo: apt-cache search lockfile | 06:33 |
| Mithrandir | or even better, apt-file search lockfile | 06:33 |
| pitti | aquo: lockfile-progs or procmail (depending on which lockfile program it uses) | 06:34 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: command-not-found is nice as well :) | 06:34 |
| pochu | pitti: ok, I'll just reject them ;) | 06:34 |
| aquo | pitti: it is not in lockfile-progs, already had a try on this. | 06:34 |
| pitti | aquo: then it might indeed be procmail's :) | 06:35 |
| nxvl | where can i find the source of cp? | 06:35 |
| aquo | so i need to install procmail for building ubunut cd images ... | 06:35 |
| cjwatson | nxvl: coreutils | 06:35 |
| aquo | grmpf | 06:35 |
| cjwatson | yes | 06:35 |
| pitti | nxvl: apt-get source `dpkg -S /bin/cp` | 06:35 |
| cjwatson | aquo: ^-- | 06:35 |
| cjwatson | procmail isn't an arduous dependency | 06:36 |
| aquo | k, no problem | 06:37 |
| geser | seb128: is the missing Debian removal bug a showstopper for bug #122344? | 06:39 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122344 in sylpheed-claws-gtk2-extra-plugins "[Remove] Please remove sylpheed-claws-gtk2 and sylpheed-claws-gtk2-extra-plugins from gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122344 | 06:40 |
| ion_ | http://www.alex-smith.me.uk/files/bootchart-ud.png :-) | 06:40 |
| pygi | ion_, frugalware dude? :) | 06:40 |
| ion_ | pygi: Yeah | 06:41 |
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| pitti | agoliveira: do you have that hanging ubiquity running ATM? | 06:58 |
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| agoliveira | ATM? | 06:59 |
| asac | agoliveira: at the moment | 06:59 |
| agoliveira | pitti: At this moment? | 06:59 |
| asac | yes | 06:59 |
| asac | :) | 06:59 |
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| agoliveira | Sorry, too many TLA's :-D | 07:00 |
| geser | pitti: does Ubuntu also drop apache 1.3 from gutsy? Debian did it already | 07:00 |
| agoliveira | pitti: Yes, it's right in front of me. | 07:00 |
| pitti | geser: I'd love to, if the reverse depends allow us | 07:00 |
| pitti | agoliveira: ok, so evand might be able to help you | 07:00 |
| seb128 | geser: no, not a blocker, it's just easier when they clean things also | 07:00 |
| agoliveira | evand: Pitti told me to poke your about parted_server problem during instalation. | 07:01 |
| seb128 | geser: and I'm wondering if there is a reason they didn't ask for the removal | 07:01 |
| agoliveira | pitti: Thnaks. | 07:01 |
| geser | pitti: will check the rdepends and file removal bugs where needed | 07:01 |
| geser | seb128: I guess the maintainer forgot to file a bug yet | 07:02 |
| LaserJock | anybody else here run Vmware Fusion? | 07:02 |
| pitti | geser: not that bad actually; two tons of libapache-mod-* and twiki | 07:02 |
| pitti | LaserJock: fusion? | 07:02 |
| pygi | pitti, they mac thingy | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | pitti: yeah, VMware for macs | 07:03 |
| pygi | where you could get windows out of the VM window | 07:03 |
| pitti | ah, no | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | I *still* can't get the Tribe 2 candidate to boot in it | 07:03 |
| lamont | pitti: do you know if anyone is working on the perl FTBFS? | 07:03 |
| LaserJock | I think it must be my VMware or something | 07:03 |
| pitti | lamont: I don't know anyone who is working on it; are you currently doing a rebuild test? | 07:04 |
| lamont | pitti: uh... well, fortunately? it was still ftbfs on i386 last night when I retried it without thinking | 07:04 |
| lamont | the failure on amd64 is from may... | 07:05 |
| lamont | once tribe2 is out, I figured I'd give it back everywhere, but I expect that it'll still fail | 07:05 |
| lamont | amusingly, it builds on hppa | 07:05 |
| pitti | lamont: "You haven't done a "make depend" yet!" a-haa | 07:05 |
| lamont | do you want an upload for tribe 2, or should I wait for it to be out before I upload? | 07:06 |
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| pitti | lamont: I'd prefer waiting with giving-back, just in case we need to respin the CDs | 07:07 |
| lamont | right | 07:07 |
| pitti | lamont: normal source uploads are fine, though, they will just sit in the queue | 07:07 |
| evand | agoliveira: can you run the installer with --debug and attach /var/log/installer/debug, /var/log/syslog, and /var/log/partman to a new bug report? | 07:07 |
| pitti | lamont: so if you have a fix, uploading it is fine | 07:08 |
| lamont | looking at the clock this may be something I work on on the plane tomorrow | 07:08 |
| lamont | haven't even looked at it | 07:08 |
| cjwatson | agoliveira: I'd suggest saving /var/log/syslog and /var/log/partman first just in case --debug makes it go away | 07:08 |
| cjwatson | they might still be useful somehow | 07:08 |
| lamont | although the funny part is that it actually built on hppa | 07:08 |
| evand | ah, good point | 07:08 |
| agoliveira | evand: Sure, unless the same as yesterday happens. The first time I tried, I got the error, the second (when I used --debug) made the error go away :-/ | 07:09 |
| evand | yikes | 07:09 |
| pitti | agoliveira: same here | 07:10 |
| pitti | yay heisenbugs | 07:11 |
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| farcl0ud | ubunto is pretty schweeeeeet | 07:14 |
| farcl0ud | heh | 07:14 |
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| farcl0ud | how do i make windows transparent? | 07:15 |
| evand | farcl0ud: this is not a support channel. /join #ubuntu | 07:15 |
| farcl0ud | ok | 07:16 |
| agoliveira | evand, pitti: This might be something related to the saved configurations as if I start the instalation again, even without the --debug, it does work. | 07:16 |
| pitti | agoliveira: maybe reboot and try with --debug right away? | 07:17 |
| agoliveira | pitti: Yes, I'm doing this right now. | 07:17 |
| pitti | I'll do the same once my vmware test installs finish and I'll get to the real-metal tests | 07:17 |
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| pitti | ok, I'll go offline for a bit for CD testing, bbl | 07:23 |
| azeem | /W/ 5 | 07:25 |
| azeem | oops | 07:25 |
| agoliveira | pitti, evand: I started again from scratch, running ubiquity --debug and guess what? It just freaking works... | 07:27 |
| evand | haha | 07:27 |
| ogra | the new ubiquity partitioner ui is beautiful ... | 07:28 |
| ogra | hmm, even though it hangs now ... | 07:29 |
| agoliveira | evand: I would be weeping not laughing :-D | 07:29 |
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| evand | agoliveira: try it without --debug and just attach the other logs? | 07:31 |
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| pitti | cjwatson: "You are running in debugging mode. Do not use a valuable password!" -> Thanks a lot for this! | 07:37 |
| agoliveira | evand: I'll already started the instalation. I'll try that again as soon as it ends. | 07:38 |
| evand | ok | 07:38 |
| pitti | agoliveira: ah, did you get any further with that bug? | 07:38 |
| agoliveira | pitti: Which one? | 07:38 |
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| cjwatson | pitti: I got fed up of having to tell people that by hand every time :) | 07:39 |
| pitti | agoliveira: hanging manual partitioner | 07:39 |
| cjwatson | I'm going to have to see if I can reproduce this myself, I guess | 07:39 |
| agoliveira | pitti: When you go over the normal process, parted_server hangs. If you start ubiquity with --debug it goes nicelly... go figure... | 07:40 |
| cjwatson | and braindump my thought processes on evand along the way :) | 07:40 |
| evand | heh | 07:40 |
| cjwatson | I wonder if something is colliding with the file descriptor the log file is initially opened on | 07:41 |
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| pitti | agoliveira: it's just the computer's way of telling you that it wants to talk to you more | 07:41 |
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| cjwatson | agoliveira: can you get an strace of what parted_server is doing when it hangs? | 07:42 |
| agoliveira | pitti: This is cute :-P | 07:42 |
| pitti | cjwatson: curious why it doesn't happen in vmware, though | 07:42 |
| cjwatson | mm, hard to say as yet | 07:42 |
| pitti | agoliveira: which kind of file systems do you use? | 07:42 |
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| agoliveira | cjwatson: I'm installing right now but I'll see what I can get of it later. | 07:43 |
| pitti | but I already killed the ntfs one, that wasn't it | 07:43 |
| agoliveira | pitti: It's a tripple boot macboot so it has efi, afs, ntfs. | 07:43 |
| polopolo | Is it today bugday? | 07:43 |
| agoliveira | pitti: and ext3 and swap | 07:43 |
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| pitti | agoliveira: it doesn't happen with ext3 and swap in vmware, and otherwise we have entirely differnent fs'es, so it might not be that either | 07:44 |
| bdmurray | polopolo: Yes it is | 07:47 |
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| polopolo | bdmurray: ok | 07:50 |
| agoliveira | Gosh... now it hung just before shut down X when I told to reboot. And hung badly, I had to power it down. | 07:51 |
| bdmurray | We have a list of bugs we are working on at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20070627 | 07:51 |
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| nxvl | pitti: thnx | 07:54 |
| nxvl | pitti: i have just see your answer about cp | 07:55 |
| pitti | nxvl: mp | 07:55 |
| pitti | no problem | 07:55 |
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| nxvl | pitti: the comand has a bug! | 07:55 |
| nxvl | dpkg -S /bin/cp returns "coreutils:" | 07:56 |
| cjwatson | nxvl: I think you get the general idea though | 07:57 |
| cjwatson | run dpkg -S /bin/cp and then inspect the package that returns | 07:57 |
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| nxvl | cjwatson: heh, yes, i did | 08:01 |
| nxvl | cjwatson: it was a joke | 08:01 |
| nxvl | :P | 08:01 |
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| pitti | agoliveira: is there already a bug report about the manual partitioning hang? | 08:11 |
| agoliveira | pitti: Not from me. I'll try to make it happen again in a few minutes; | 08:12 |
| pitti | agoliveira: ok; I'll create one, so that I have something to attach to my isotesting report; I don't have any logs, though | 08:13 |
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| agoliveira | pitti: As soon as I can get some I'll sen to you then. | 08:13 |
| ulaas | pitti, network manager has still the same issue.. | 08:14 |
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| pitti | agoliveira: right, send it to that bug then, please | 08:17 |
| pitti | ulaas: darn; can you please talk to asac to debug this further | 08:17 |
| pitti | ? | 08:17 |
| Evolution2 | i would like to know what third party repositories i need to have in adept package manager. and i also iam wondering why the "full upgrade" button is shaded | 08:18 |
| ulaas | pitti, sure. | 08:18 |
| agoliveira | pitti: sure. Can you give me a pointer for it? | 08:18 |
| agoliveira | pitti: Oh, isotracker? | 08:18 |
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| ulaas | asac, yo! how can i be of service | 08:18 |
| pitti | agoliveira: I didn't file it yet, in a minute | 08:18 |
| pitti | agoliveira: yes, iso-tracker allows you to put bug numbers into it | 08:19 |
| agoliveira | pitti: Ok. | 08:19 |
| Evolution2 | anyone? | 08:20 |
| sn0 | Evolution2 this isn't really the channel for support, please try #ubuntu | 08:21 |
| Evolution2 | thanks | 08:21 |
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| pitti | agoliveira: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/122645 | 08:25 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122645 in ubiquity "manual partitioning hangs indefinitively" [Undecided,New] | 08:25 |
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| agoliveira | pitti: Got it. | 08:26 |
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| ulaas | asac, u there? | 08:27 |
| asac_ | ulaas: sure | 08:35 |
| ulaas | asac_, ah wanna hear about network-manager issue.. | 08:35 |
| asac_ | ulaas: though expect me to go problem as my connection is really unstable today | 08:35 |
| asac_ | ulaas: which one? | 08:36 |
| ulaas | asac_, endless wep key questionnaire.. | 08:36 |
| ulaas | asac, sorry wpa | 08:36 |
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| ulaas | asac_, i have the latest packages of course | 08:37 |
| pitti | LaserJock: do you still have problems with compiz with latest packages/on current CDs? | 08:37 |
| asac | ulaas: so how does it look like? | 08:37 |
| LaserJock | pitti: I do on VMware Fusion on my intel iMac | 08:37 |
| pitti | mvo: ^ | 08:37 |
| paul_d | I would expect a QA member to update 'Managing Status' of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/CommonTasks | 08:37 |
| LaserJock | pitti: but at home in VMware Server on my Ubuntu box it's fine | 08:38 |
| pitti | LaserJock: at the current point we won't re-roll CDs, but bug reports with hw details are heavily appreciated | 08:38 |
| LaserJock | I'm wondering if it's a VMware Fusion problem | 08:38 |
| LaserJock | although I'm not sure why that would be' | 08:38 |
| pitti | LaserJock: particular graphics driver, presumably | 08:38 |
| asac | ulaas: ? | 08:39 |
| ulaas | asac, sec | 08:39 |
| ulaas | asac, typing in the key. wait for a few moments. and there comes the dialog again. | 08:39 |
| LaserJock | pitti: oh wait, is composite/compiz enabled by default then? | 08:40 |
| LaserJock | I assume so | 08:40 |
| LaserJock | in vmware, specifically | 08:40 |
| pitti | LaserJock: not in vmware, because the driver doesn't support it | 08:41 |
| asac | ulaas: so you are using nm-applet...ubuntu4 ? | 08:41 |
| pitti | LaserJock: in general it's the default, but session startup uses some tests which disable it if the driver isn't good enough | 08:41 |
| ulaas | asac, i am a man of doubl check. a sec please | 08:41 |
| bdmurray | pitti: what are the tests? | 08:41 |
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| LaserJock | pitti: well, I've updated the bug I filed, I'll add more if mvo needs it | 08:42 |
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| ulaas | asac, thats the one. | 08:42 |
| LaserJock | it'd be nice to find somebody else using vmware fusion though and see if they can confirm | 08:42 |
| mvo | LaserJock: what bugnumber is that | 08:42 |
| ulaas | asac, i have cleaned my user. so gconf is fresh as new... | 08:43 |
| ogra | does ubiquity hang foa anybody else in teh patiotioner ? | 08:43 |
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| LaserJock | mvo: bug #122459 | 08:43 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122459 in compiz "[gutsy] cannot log in on edubuntu DesktopCD" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122459 | 08:43 |
| LaserJock | ogra: at least you can easily blame it on the ClassmatePC keyboard ;-) | 08:44 |
| asac | ulaas: hmmm probably a regression from the patch we applied today | 08:44 |
| ogra | well, i'm on my main lappie :) | 08:44 |
| pitti | bdmurray: what do you mean? | 08:44 |
| LaserJock | ogra: but we don't know that ;-) | 08:44 |
| ulaas | asac, whatever you say bro. i ama s | 08:44 |
| asac | ulaas: did nm-applet crash for you before today? | 08:44 |
| pitti | ogra: yes, for manual partitioning? | 08:44 |
| pitti | ogra: bug 122645? | 08:45 |
| ogra | pitti: yup | 08:45 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122645 in ubiquity "manual partitioning hangs indefinitively" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122645 | 08:45 |
| ulaas | asac, yap i got the whole shebang starting from yesterday | 08:45 |
| bdmurray | pitti: I was curious if it looked at the videocard pci id or something else. | 08:45 |
| mvo | LaserJock: oh? and this is still a problem? can you attach .xsession-errors from a failed login please? | 08:45 |
| LaserJock | mvo: hmm, I can try | 08:45 |
| pitti | bdmurray: ah, those tests; there's a driver blacklist (vesa and nv) and then it does some checks on the glxinfo output | 08:45 |
| asac | ulaas: and before yesterday all worked fine for you? | 08:46 |
| ulaas | asac, well that was feisty.. | 08:46 |
| ogra | pitti: i confirmed it | 08:46 |
| cjwatson | ogra: I'd like an strace of what parted_server is doing, if you can | 08:46 |
| ogra | it happens definately on three different systems ... | 08:47 |
| ogra | cjwatson: trying :) | 08:47 |
| cjwatson | I imagine it's hanging in just one syscall, but knowing which would be helpful ... | 08:47 |
| cjwatson | or even attach gdb to it and get a backtrace, though you'd have to fiddle about to get symbols | 08:47 |
| mvo | bdmurray: currently it does feature testing based on glxinfo and xpdyinfo and blacklisting of some drivers | 08:47 |
| cjwatson | evand: have you managed to reproduce this hang? | 08:47 |
| asac | ulaas: ok so you upgraded to gutsy yesterday got crashes and now you get password dialog popping up endlessly? | 08:48 |
| nxvl | i have already patch bug #89945 can someone please check if the patch is correct? | 08:48 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 89945 in openssh "scp doesn't report correct filenames with spaces in verbose mode" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89945 | 08:48 |
| asac | ulaas: please post that info to bug 121228 | 08:48 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 121228 in network-manager "[gutsy] segfault retrieving passphrase for WiFi network" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121228 | 08:48 |
| ulaas | asac, yap. previous versions than ubuntu4 was crashing. ubuntu4 is asking for key forever. | 08:48 |
| ulaas | asac, you bet.. ;) | 08:49 |
| evand | cjwatson: negative, but I've only been using vmware | 08:49 |
| asac | ulaas: or no ... please open a new bug and add a hint that this | 08:49 |
| evand | which I hear nullifies it | 08:49 |
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| asac | ulaas: popped up since ubuntu4 and link the bug above to the new bug | 08:49 |
| asac | ulaas: thanks | 08:49 |
| cjwatson | nxvl: incorrect as what if the filename contains single quotes? | 08:49 |
| evand | still trying though | 08:49 |
| ulaas | asac, lemme first investigate a bit more. i am suspicious of keyring... | 08:49 |
| cjwatson | it needs to be escaped properly rather than just surrounding it with '' | 08:49 |
| asac | ulaas: feel free ... but i will be out soonish | 08:50 |
| cjwatson | in any case, that bug should go upstream | 08:50 |
| nxvl | cjwatson: can a file name hace? | 08:50 |
| nxvl | have* | 08:50 |
| cjwatson | http://bugzilla.mindrot.org/ | 08:50 |
| cjwatson | nxvl: yes | 08:50 |
| pitti | asac, ulaas: maybe that's the part where that gnome-keyring fix comes into play? | 08:50 |
| cjwatson | a filename can contain any character except \0 | 08:50 |
| ulaas | asac, no problem. i will file thebug anyway. | 08:50 |
| nxvl | mmm | 08:50 |
| pitti | nxvl: (except \0 and /) | 08:50 |
| ulaas | pitti, is there fix for that? | 08:50 |
| cjwatson | (though \n will probably break in a number of places ...) | 08:50 |
| nxvl | ok, i will check another way to do it | 08:51 |
| asac | pitti: might be ... is the fix already in gutsy? | 08:51 |
| asac | ulaas: what version of gnome-keyring do you have? | 08:51 |
| ulaas | asac, 2.19.4.1-0ubuntu1 | 08:52 |
| asac | ulaas: are you on amd64? | 08:52 |
| ulaas | asac, nope i386 | 08:53 |
| asac | hmmm | 08:53 |
| asac | ulaas: ok please file the new bug and don't forget to reference the original bug i mentioned above in the summary | 08:53 |
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| ulaas | asac, surely. | 08:53 |
| asac | ulaas: i will come back to you with packages you might test ... probably tomorrow morning | 08:54 |
| LaserJock | mvo: I attached .xsession-errors to the bug report | 08:54 |
| LaserJock | tons of alsa stuff | 08:54 |
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| ulaas | asac, have a good one. | 08:54 |
| ogra | cjwatson: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/strace-parted_server-tribe2.out | 08:55 |
| cjwatson | ogra: hmm, when did you start that? | 08:55 |
| cjwatson | after it appeared to have hung? | 08:55 |
| cjwatson | perhaps slightly before? | 08:56 |
| ogra | before clicking anything in the "manual/guided partitioning" selection dialog | 08:56 |
| cjwatson | ok | 08:56 |
| sladen | nixternal: /proc/sys/net/ipv6 and 'unset' | 08:56 |
| ogra | the hanging ubiquity win is still there ... so it ran until it died | 08:57 |
| cjwatson | nothing obvious in there, looks more subtle than just confused fds | 08:58 |
| nxvl | where can i see what initialize_main does, i'm searching, but i don't find it | 08:58 |
| cjwatson | nxvl: (I'm not sure this bug report is worth lots of effort, to be honest) | 08:59 |
| mvo | LaserJock: what X driver is this system using | 08:59 |
| LaserJock | mvo: the host? | 08:59 |
| cjwatson | nxvl: there is no initialize_main function in openssh | 08:59 |
| LaserJock | or the livecd? | 08:59 |
| cjwatson | at least not in the current version; perhaps you're looking at an old one | 09:00 |
| mvo | LaserJock: the thing that fails :) | 09:00 |
| mvo | LaserJock: could you please try to login into a fail-safe session and run glxinfo in a terminal? | 09:00 |
| LaserJock | k | 09:01 |
| LaserJock | I also collected an .xsession-errors with the sound turned off, is that of use? | 09:01 |
| mvo | LaserJock: yes, less clutter sounds good | 09:02 |
| nxvl | cjwatson: no, but it is on cp | 09:02 |
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| nxvl | cjwatson: im looking how cp does it to make something like that in scp | 09:02 |
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| ogra | huh ? | 09:03 |
| ogra | why do i have xterm and uxterm in my menu ? | 09:03 |
| nxvl | uxterm is xterm with unicode | 09:03 |
| nxvl | somethimes both are installed | 09:04 |
| ulaas_ | asac, recreated a new user. and now it works... | 09:04 |
| ogra | i know what it is, it just has nothing lost in my liveCD menu :) | 09:04 |
| LaserJock | mvo: safe mode won't start X | 09:04 |
| mvo | LaserJock: oh? | 09:04 |
| LaserJock | Failed to load vbe | 09:05 |
| asac | ulaas_: ok so probably gnome-keyring broke compatibility with legacy settings somehow | 09:05 |
| asac | ulaas_: please drop that info to bug as well | 09:05 |
| mvo | LaserJock: what driver is the thing using that fails? | 09:05 |
| LaserJock | vesa | 09:05 |
| LaserJock | dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libvbe.so: invallid ELF header | 09:06 |
| nxvl | cjwatson: can u maybe recomend me a simple bug so i can fix it and learn? | 09:06 |
| LaserJock | mvo: ^^ seems to be the source of the problem | 09:06 |
| nxvl | cjwatson: i really want to help, but as you can see i'm new on this | 09:06 |
| mvo | LaserJock: but that would only explain the failsafe failure, not the regular one? or is vesa used in regular mode too? | 09:07 |
| ogra | invallid ELF header sounds bad though | 09:08 |
| LaserJock | I don't know, I'll reboot in regular mode and look at the xorg log | 09:08 |
| mvo | thanks! | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | although X at least starts in regular mode | 09:10 |
| cjwatson | nxvl: cp and scp don't share source code, so it might not be trivial | 09:10 |
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| cjwatson | nxvl: I don't mean to discourage you; it's just that I recently did a pass through openssh and fixed most of the simple bugs I could find ;-) | 09:10 |
| asac | ulaas_: btw, please keep the broken user | 09:10 |
| cjwatson | nxvl: I believe there's a "bitesize" tag that's intended to be for this sort of thing, and you can query on that | 09:11 |
| ulaas_ | asac, ooooops | 09:11 |
| nxvl | cjwatson: i don't undestand the "bitesize" thing | 09:12 |
| asac | ulaas_: thats bad :/ | 09:13 |
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| LaserJock | mvo: well, it's using the vmware driver in regular mode | 09:13 |
| ulaas_ | asac, my bad. :( | 09:14 |
| asac | ulaas_: yeah close bug again then | 09:14 |
| asac | ulaas_: if someone else sees it we will get a new one | 09:14 |
| cjwatson | nxvl: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags | 09:14 |
| evand | nxvl: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize | 09:15 |
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| asac | ulaas_: np ... remember that its important to keep broken things in future ... if you want to help :) | 09:15 |
| mvo | LaserJock: thanks! out of curiosity (and only if you have it available), does the regular ubuntu-desktop CD crash for you as well? | 09:16 |
| LaserJock | I haven't tried it yet, I was thinking the same thing | 09:16 |
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| ulaas_ | asac, will keep that in mind. | 09:17 |
| LaserJock | mvo: let me rsync one up and I'll try it out | 09:17 |
| nxvl | thnx | 09:17 |
| nxvl | i will try that | 09:18 |
| nxvl | :D | 09:18 |
| nxvl | i whink i will start with ubuntulove | 09:18 |
| doko | seb128: I did remove the Hidden attribute from a menu entry, but I don't see the item appear in the menu, even alacarte doesn't show me the disabled entry. any hints? | 09:22 |
| seb128 | doko: what menu entry? | 09:23 |
| seb128 | doko: is there a TryExec? Is the corresponding binary available? | 09:24 |
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| doko | seb128: ooo-draw, packages from deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/tmp/ooo-feisty/ ./ | 09:25 |
| doko | i386 only | 09:25 |
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| luisbg | pitti, I'm having a major bug with the gutsy tribe 2 test iso | 09:28 |
| luisbg | live i386 one | 09:28 |
| pitti | luisbg: what's up? | 09:30 |
| pitti | luisbg: (sorry, I'm just about to leave for 30 minutes, bbl) | 09:30 |
| luisbg | when installing, I choose manual partitioning, then next, and the install program freezes there | 09:31 |
| luisbg | tried 3 tiems | 09:31 |
| luisbg | times* | 09:31 |
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| luisbg | pygi, seams like a big one to me ;) | 09:31 |
| ogra | luisbg: you mean bug #122645 i guess | 09:34 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122645 in ubiquity "manual partitioning hangs indefinitively" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122645 | 09:34 |
| luisbg | ogra, yes | 09:34 |
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| seb128 | doko: seems to be listed correctly under "Graphics" on my desktop | 09:35 |
| doko | seb128: hrm, yeah, I remember now having removed the entry in the office menu :-/ | 09:36 |
| evand | luisbg: does it occur when you pass --debug to the installer? | 09:36 |
| doko | sorry | 09:36 |
| seb128 | that's alright | 09:37 |
| luisbg | evand, didn't check | 09:37 |
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| LaserJock | mvo: same thing with Ubuntu Desktop CD i386 | 09:39 |
| ogra | evand: called as sudo ubiquity --debug it seems to work fine here | 09:41 |
| evand | ogra: so that stops it from hanging for you? | 09:41 |
| ogra | right | 09:41 |
| evand | hrm ok | 09:41 |
| ogra | i wonder if that also happens if i call it with gksu | 09:41 |
| alex-weej | seb128: did you write ubuntulooks? | 09:42 |
| ScottK | Is there an archive admin around that might approve clamav 0.90.3-1ubuntu2 (source). It fixes a common postinst failure, so it'd be nice to have it out along with Tribe 2. | 09:42 |
| ogra | evand: gksudo ubiquity --debug hangs | 09:43 |
| pitti | evand: I wonder whether it actually works for anyone then... | 09:43 |
| pitti | well, davmor2 successfully tested it on xubuntu at least | 09:44 |
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| cjwatson | ogra: (you never need to run gksudo/sudo; ubiquity does that itself) | 09:46 |
| seb128 | alex-weej: no, it has been written by the clearlooks upstreams | 09:46 |
| cjwatson | ogra: if you get a hang in debug mode, /var/log/installer/debug + /var/log/syslog + /var/log/partman please | 09:46 |
| ogra | oki | 09:46 |
| seb128 | alex-weej: why? | 09:46 |
| mvo | LaserJock: what kind of vmware is it? workstation, server, player? | 09:46 |
| mvo | LaserJock: what version? | 09:46 |
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| alex-weej | seb128: gonna try and tackle an old bug that was introduced in edgy | 09:46 |
| LaserJock | mvo: it's VMware Fusion | 09:47 |
| alex-weej | tab colour highlights | 09:47 |
| alex-weej | fails to work in terminal, gedit, ephy's TDI UIs | 09:47 |
| LaserJock | hence why I'm suspecting it could be an issue specific to it as I don't know if there are many people using it | 09:47 |
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| mvo | LaserJock: if there is a way to get into a failsafe terminal I would be interessted in the output of glxinfo | 09:47 |
| ogra | cjwatson: hmm ubiquity doesnt truncate the old log on a new start, right ? | 09:48 |
| ogra | seems my debug log is some MB big ... | 09:49 |
| evand | ogra: it appends | 09:49 |
| cjwatson | ogra: nope, intentionally | 09:49 |
| LaserJock | mvo: heh, no go. If I start up failsafe terminal and then run glxinfo it kills X immediately | 09:52 |
| ogra | while i collect teh stuff and move it around, here a traceback from ym syslog ... | 09:52 |
| ogra | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27470/ | 09:52 |
| ogra | evand, cjwatson ^^ | 09:52 |
| mvo | LaserJock: ok, I will backlist the vmware driver than. the same happens on vesa_drv.so | 09:52 |
| LaserJock | mvo: it's odd that other people using VMware player or server aren't having the issue | 09:53 |
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| LaserJock | this VMware Fusion is still beta I think so who knows .. | 09:53 |
| seb128 | BenC, pitti: many apport crashes have still no stacktrace using the new linux version | 09:55 |
| BenC | seb128: according to pitti, his test cases passed...I need more info if possible | 09:56 |
| seb128 | BenC: I'll speak to pitti, I don't know how to debug that, bug most of the bugs we are getting have no Coredump and users are running 2.6.22-7 | 09:56 |
| ogra | evand, cjwatson, all three logs attached to bug #122645 | 09:58 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122645 in ubiquity "manual partitioning hangs indefinitively" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122645 | 09:58 |
| evand | thanks ogra | 09:58 |
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| pitti | seb128, BenC: it's a miracle to me | 10:19 |
| seb128 | pitti: that it doesn't work for eveyrbody? | 10:20 |
| pitti | seb128: yes | 10:21 |
| pitti | seb128: I'll ask in the bug to run the apport test suite, maybe that reveals the problem | 10:21 |
| seb128 | you want a list of bugs? | 10:21 |
| pitti | seb128: that would be nice | 10:21 |
| pitti | seb128: and I should really teach apport to not send those in the first place; too bad that we noticed it so late | 10:22 |
| seb128 | bug #122470 | 10:22 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122470 in gnome-panel "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122470 | 10:22 |
| seb128 | bug #122511 | 10:23 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122511 in rhythmbox "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122511 | 10:23 |
| pitti | seb128: do you get the effect yourself? | 10:23 |
| seb128 | let me send a SIGSEGV to something | 10:23 |
| bdmurray | bug 122641 | 10:23 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122641 in compiz "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122641 | 10:23 |
| pitti | seb128: just run /usr/share/apport/testsuite/run-tests | 10:23 |
| pitti | seb128: that does plenty of SIGSEGVing | 10:24 |
| pitti | seb128: you need to empty /var/crash first, though | 10:24 |
| seb128 | Test add_gdb_info() with a script. ... Failed to read a valid object file image from memory. | 10:25 |
| seb128 | warning: Memory read failed for corefile section, 4096 bytes at 0xffffe000. | 10:25 |
| seb128 | FAIL | 10:25 |
| seb128 | FAIL: Test add_gdb_info() with a script. | 10:25 |
| seb128 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | 10:25 |
| seb128 | Traceback (most recent call last): | 10:25 |
| seb128 | File "/usr/share/python-support/python-apport/apport/report.py", line 1179, in test_add_gdb_info_script | 10:25 |
| seb128 | self.assert_('libc.so' in pr['Stacktrace'] ) | 10:25 |
| seb128 | AssertionError | 10:25 |
| pitti | seb128: ah-haa | 10:25 |
| Admiral_Chicago | pitti: the release notes should be finished for xubuntu as well, the wiki does not have content but we are fleshing things out in a meeting | 10:25 |
| pitti | Admiral_Chicago: thanks | 10:26 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i'll mail you when i'm happy with them. thanks | 10:26 |
| pitti | seb128: if you run '/usr/share/apport/testsuite/test-apport kernel', how far does it get? | 10:26 |
| seb128 | * Check test process creation/killing with apport | 10:26 |
| seb128 | Traceback (most recent call last): | 10:26 |
| seb128 | File "/usr/share/apport/testsuite/test-apport", line 165, in <module> | 10:26 |
| seb128 | check_crash() | 10:26 |
| seb128 | File "/usr/share/apport/testsuite/test-apport", line 60, in check_crash | 10:26 |
| seb128 | assert not os.path.exists('core'), 'no core dump in current directory' | 10:26 |
| seb128 | AssertionError: no core dump in current directory | 10:27 |
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| pitti | seb128: did you have a core file in . before? | 10:27 |
| seb128 | no | 10:27 |
| pitti | seb128: hm, so something is really broken here | 10:27 |
| pitti | seb128: do you have something interesting in /var/log/apport.log? | 10:28 |
| seb128 | $ /usr/share/apport/testsuite/test-apport kernel | 10:28 |
| seb128 | Traceback (most recent call last): | 10:28 |
| seb128 | File "/usr/share/apport/testsuite/test-apport", line 147, in <module> | 10:28 |
| seb128 | assert apport.fileutils.get_all_reports() == [] , 'no reports already present' | 10:28 |
| seb128 | AssertionError: no reports already present | 10:28 |
| seb128 | 10:28 | |
| seb128 | that's with a _usr_share_apport_testsuite_test-apport.1000.crash in the directory | 10:28 |
| pitti | seb128: right, that's expected | 10:28 |
| pitti | seb128: the test suite requires /var/crash to be empty for useful checks | 10:28 |
| seb128 | if I rm the crash I get the "AssertionError: no core dump in current directory" again | 10:29 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, btw, please killall update-notifier before starting the test | 10:29 |
| pitti | weird | 10:29 |
| ogra | pitti: so do you plan to wait for a fix to bug #122645 ? looks quite critical | 10:29 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122645 in ubiquity "manual partitioning hangs indefinitively" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122645 | 10:29 |
| seb128 | no difference without update-notifier | 10:29 |
| pitti | seb128: the description is a bit misleading, it means that there is a core file which shouldn't be there | 10:29 |
| pitti | ogra: if we get one today still, then I might reconsider | 10:30 |
| pitti | ogra: testing everything is expensive, but doable on one day | 10:30 |
| ogra | well, its a typical tester thing to use manual partitioning i guess | 10:30 |
| seb128 | pitti: there is only a _usr_share_apport_testsuite_test-apport.1000.crash created when running the testsuite | 10:30 |
| ogra | at least if i watch my testing behavior :) | 10:31 |
| pitti | seb128: can you please rm /var/crash again and that core file, and /var/log/apport.log, then run test-apport, and then send me the log file? | 10:31 |
| pitti | seb128: but you are on 2.6.22-7, right? | 10:31 |
| seb128 | pitti: there is no apport.log created | 10:31 |
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| seb128 | $ uname -r | 10:32 |
| seb128 | 2.6.22-7-generic | 10:32 |
| seb128 | ah, test-apport | 10:32 |
| seb128 | sorry, I tried the kernel thingy | 10:32 |
| pitti | seb128: right, 'test-apport kernel' | 10:32 |
| seb128 | k, no log then | 10:32 |
| pitti | seb128: there is another mode 'lib' which doesn't work in the installed system | 10:33 |
| evand | of course I'm the only one who cannot reproduce the bug on real hardware | 10:33 |
| pitti | seb128: can you please have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/119267 ? | 10:34 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 119267 in linux-source-2.6.22 "apport patches for CORE_REAL_RLIM and limit overriding do not work any more" [High,Fix released] | 10:34 |
| seb128 | pitti: trying that | 10:34 |
| pitti | seb128: in the description I describe some basic tests (without apport) to check the kernel behaviour | 10:34 |
| pitti | seb128: and describe behaviour on -6 and the expected one | 10:35 |
| seb128 | pitti: | 10:35 |
| seb128 | $ ls -l /tmp/env /tmp/crash | 10:35 |
| seb128 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 831488 2007-06-27 22:35 /tmp/crash | 10:35 |
| seb128 | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 151 2007-06-27 22:35 /tmp/ | 10:35 |
| seb128 | $ grep RLIM /tmp/env | 10:35 |
| seb128 | CORE_REAL_RLIM=0 | 10:35 |
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| pitti | seb128: ulimit -c is 0? | 10:37 |
| seb128 | yes | 10:37 |
| seb128 | I followed the bug | 10:38 |
| seb128 | the "In this case, CORE_REAL_RLIM should be 0 (since -1 means 'unlimited') and /tmp/crash should have the entire core dump (but is empty)." | 10:38 |
| pitti | right, your output looks fine | 10:39 |
| seb128 | seems to be the correct then | 10:39 |
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| pitti | seb128: ok; I have some more ideas, let's do this in /msg to not spam the channel | 10:39 |
| seb128 | k | 10:39 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 10:47 |
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| hunger | Did somebody already succeed in getting vmware to run on gutsy? | 11:15 |
| pitti | o/ | 11:15 |
| pitti | hunger: vmware 6 runs nicely (even amd64), but requires BenC's fixed vmnet.tar | 11:16 |
| hunger | Where can I get that? | 11:16 |
| pitti | BenC: ^ is this on any public place? or the diff? | 11:18 |
| Daviey | Oh goody, i would like that file aswell :) | 11:19 |
| stgraber | I've found a fixed vmnet.tar somewhere on the forum working just fine with 2.6.22-7 but would also like something more "official" :) | 11:19 |
| hunger | stgraber: You still got the URL? | 11:20 |
| stgraber | let me check | 11:20 |
| === hunger would be sooo happy if vmware got into the restricted modules... but that is probably impossible. | ||
| hunger | There are vmware-player debs in aptitude... too bad that those are terribly out of date:-( | 11:21 |
| stgraber | http://npw.net/~phbaer/vmnet.tar | 11:21 |
| stgraber | found in : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=478611 | 11:21 |
| hunger | stgraber: THANKS! | 11:21 |
| Daviey | stgraber: ty | 11:22 |
| stgraber | np | 11:22 |
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| superm1 | cjwatson, ping. I wanted to see what your thoughts would be on bug #122040 | 11:23 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122040 in casper "Casper should depend on discover1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122040 | 11:23 |
| cjwatson | superm1: I think that's wrong, really; it's up to xserver-xorg to install what it needs | 11:24 |
| cjwatson | casper shouldn't have the dependency because xserver-xorg might (quite realistically!) change what it needs to discover hardware | 11:25 |
| superm1 | ah i see | 11:25 |
| cjwatson | xserver-xorg Recommends: discover1 | discover as it is | 11:25 |
| cjwatson | so I think honestly this is just a bug in the construction of the third-party disks | 11:26 |
| superm1 | okay i'll kill the bug then. Wish I saw the recommends: discover1 in the first place :) | 11:26 |
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| RadiantFire | ftopic | 11:36 |
| RadiantFire | oops :-( | 11:36 |
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| bdmurray | pitti: have you found anything more out about apport crash reports? | 11:52 |
| pitti | bdmurray: no, I debugged something with seb128 for an hour, but no result; he doesn't get the effect | 11:53 |
| pitti | bdmurray: I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/122688 now, it has a list of affected bugs | 11:53 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122688 in apport "produces empty core dumps" [High,Incomplete] | 11:53 |
| pitti | bdmurray: in those bugs I ask the reporters about diagnosing apport itself | 11:53 |
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| pitti | bdmurray: if you find more of those, maybe you can copy&paste that comment | 11:54 |
| bdmurray | pitti: sounds good | 11:57 |
| pitti | bdmurray: I'll think about it again tomorrow | 11:58 |
| pitti | bdmurray: at least the tags are right, so we can automatically traverse the bugs and reject the broken ones | 11:58 |
| pitti | I'll care about that once the issue is fixed | 11:58 |
| === pitti falls into bed, cu tomorrow | ||
| pitti | bdmurray: did you see anything else OMGbug apart from apport and ubiquity partitioner? | 11:59 |
| ajmitch | bye pitti | 11:59 |
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| bdmurray | pitti: nope | 12:01 |
| pitti | bdmurray: ok, fine | 12:02 |
| pitti | bdmurray: we have to live with those warts, I'm afraid | 12:03 |
| pitti | I'll release-note them | 12:03 |
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