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gnomefreak | this fucking sucks | 02:02 |
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asac | i am out | 02:58 |
gnomefreak | yeah me to | 02:58 |
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hjmf_ | morning! | 08:05 |
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asac_ | morning ... anyone has encrypted wifi? | 10:47 |
jerome_ | yep | 10:48 |
Admiral_Chicago | asac_: i do, not on gutsy though | 10:50 |
Admiral_Chicago | sitting with a lappy right next to me on WEP | 10:50 |
asac | Admiral_Chicago: thanks ... but i need gutsy | 10:51 |
DarkMageZ | Admiral_Chicago, wep ftl | 10:51 |
asac | jerome_: you are on gutsy? | 10:51 |
jerome_ | asac : no | 10:52 |
asac | :( | 10:52 |
jerome_ | sorry :) | 10:52 |
asac | np | 10:52 |
Admiral_Chicago | DarkMageZ: whats wrong with WEP? | 10:54 |
DarkMageZ | Admiral_Chicago, it's a highly broken encryption setup... infact. it's the most broken encryption method ever used. | 10:55 |
Admiral_Chicago | what should I use WAP? | 10:55 |
Admiral_Chicago | whatever that is called | 10:55 |
DarkMageZ | wpa? yes | 10:55 |
DarkMageZ | wep = 2-50minutes | 10:56 |
asac | bug 121228 | 10:56 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 121228 in network-manager "[gutsy] segfault retrieving passphrase for WiFi network" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121228 | 10:56 |
asac | is my concern atm | 10:56 |
DarkMageZ | wpa (with a semi-smart key) = 1week-200years. | 10:56 |
Admiral_Chicago | DarkMageZ: i'm an idiot and forgot the login name to my router so i can't change it now | 10:57 |
Admiral_Chicago | i'll change it soon, thanks for the tip | 10:57 |
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DarkMageZ | Admiral_Chicago, i'd be reviewing any authentication logs your access point has been keeping. | 11:00 |
asac | Admiral_Chicago: night | 11:00 |
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bluekuja | asac: hrya | 12:28 |
bluekuja | *heya | 12:28 |
bluekuja | asac: leaving for work | 12:54 |
bluekuja | will you be here later? | 12:54 |
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jerome_ | hello | 02:28 |
jerome_ | i've just started to triage firefox bugs | 02:28 |
jerome_ | i'm starting with bug 122539 | 02:28 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 122539 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122539 | 02:28 |
jerome_ | if the report has no stacktrace/backtrace... | 02:29 |
jerome_ | and if it's a random crash | 02:29 |
jerome_ | we should close it ? | 02:30 |
asac | its already invalid :) | 02:36 |
asac | probably i was faster :) | 02:36 |
asac | jerome_: ^^^ | 02:36 |
asac | but otherwise yes ... close and ask reporter to resubmit next time he has a crash | 02:36 |
jerome_ | asac : ok :) | 02:36 |
asac | jerome_: are you going through New bugs? | 02:37 |
asac | fine | 02:37 |
asac | how many New bugs do we have atm? | 02:37 |
jerome_ | granparadiso -> 2 | 02:37 |
jerome_ | firefox -> 15 | 02:37 |
asac | good ... not that bad :) | 02:38 |
jerome_ | thunderbird -> 26 | 02:38 |
asac | jerome_: ah ... for crashes we fix summary right from the beginning because we had lots of triagers marking bugs dupes that aren't | 02:38 |
asac | e.g. its always firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV i summary | 02:38 |
asac | so we make [gutsy] firefox crashed out of it | 02:38 |
asac | and tag mt-needsummary | 02:39 |
jerome_ | ok | 02:39 |
asac | or [feisty] ... or whatever | 02:39 |
asac | :) | 02:39 |
jerome_ | for example let's take bug #122525 | 02:39 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 122525 in firefox-granparadiso "firefox-granparadiso-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122525 | 02:39 |
jerome_ | the backtrace is full of ??? | 02:39 |
jerome_ | so i put mt-needreport and mt-needtestcase | 02:39 |
asac | yeah same for latest firefox submissions | 02:39 |
jerome_ | and ask for a backtrace with debug symbols on ? | 02:40 |
asac | auto-retracers appear to just yield garbage for us | 02:40 |
asac | jerome_: no ... lets wait what hjmf_ can get | 02:40 |
jerome_ | ok | 02:40 |
jerome_ | you have your own retracer ? | 02:40 |
asac | he usually can produce good retraces where auto-retracers fail | 02:40 |
jerome_ | ok | 02:40 |
asac | hjmf_: somehow ... we had auto-retracers before they were setup | 02:41 |
jerome_ | so just needtestcase ? | 02:41 |
asac | for now its mt-needretrace | 02:41 |
jerome_ | and to testcase ? | 02:41 |
asac | as it need retrace try by mozillateam member | 02:41 |
asac | you can tag as mt-needtestcase ... but usally we don't do that before we have a good retrace | 02:41 |
jerome_ | ok | 02:41 |
asac | because we deliberately reject bugs without usable trace anyway | 02:41 |
asac | you can drop info that reporter may reopen if he can reproduce and provide step-by-step instruction though | 02:42 |
asac | but if retracers fail ... tag mt-needretrace first and wait what hjmf_ can do | 02:42 |
jerome_ | ok | 02:42 |
jerome_ | done :) | 02:42 |
asac | jerome_: great! | 02:43 |
jerome_ | hard to change habits... | 02:43 |
asac | hjmf_: can you see if we get better results for bug 122393 and bug 122525 | 02:43 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 122393 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122393 | 02:43 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 122525 in firefox-granparadiso "firefox-granparadiso-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122525 | 02:43 |
jerome_ | and I bump the LP status to incomplete or just leave it to new ? | 02:44 |
asac | jerome_: incomplete | 02:44 |
jerome_ | asac : ok | 02:44 |
asac | as soon as you did something its always incomplete | 02:44 |
jerome_ | ok | 02:44 |
jerome_ | asac : and for importance you have a different scale ? Or it's the normal one ? | 02:44 |
asac | so retitle bug 122525 '[gutsy] firefox-granparadiso crashed' | 02:45 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 122525 in firefox-granparadiso "firefox-granparadiso-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122525 | 02:45 |
asac | jerome_: we used to set all crashers to High | 02:45 |
asac | but i am reconsidering this atm | 02:45 |
jerome_ | asac : so I put it on high until then ? | 02:45 |
asac | jerome_: yes | 02:46 |
jerome_ | asac : ok ! | 02:46 |
jerome_ | thx | 02:46 |
asac | np | 02:47 |
asac | gnomefreak: can you subscribe mozilla-bugs to firefox-granparadiso bugs? | 02:54 |
asac | hjmf_: maybe we miss loads of dupes of bug 14911 | 03:17 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 14911 in firefox "Flash plugin problem with ARGB visuals causes crash" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14911 | 03:17 |
asac | we somehow don't have a retrace | 03:17 |
asac | hjmf_: looking at dupe list ... it stopped at bug-id 77k ... but i don't think this issue is fixed | 03:17 |
asac | mozilla bug 343747 | 03:47 |
ubotu | Mozilla bug 343747 in History "bfcache should only cache documents where the channel implements nsICachingChannel" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343747 | 03:47 |
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hjmf | <asac> hjmf_: maybe we miss loads of dupes of bug 14911 | 04:04 |
hjmf | <ubotu> Launchpad bug 14911 in firefox "Flash plugin problem with ARGB visuals causes crash" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14911 | 04:04 |
hjmf | <asac> we somehow don't have a retrace | 04:04 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 14911 in firefox "Flash plugin problem with ARGB visuals causes crash" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14911 | 04:04 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 14911 in firefox "Flash plugin problem with ARGB visuals causes crash" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/14911 | 04:04 |
hjmf | hmm, I might be able to retrace the last report attached which seems to be from edgy in the hope that shows something useful... | 04:04 |
hjmf | but not the others as look to be from dapper | 04:05 |
hjmf | asac: do we have -dbg or -dbgsym for firefox-granparadiso? | 04:07 |
hjmf | it seems not | 04:07 |
asac | hjmf: yes there should be | 04:11 |
asac | in pittis repo | 04:11 |
asac | at least we have for latest firefox | 04:11 |
hjmf | looking | 04:11 |
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hjmf | uha! I had a full system crash | 04:17 |
hjmf | maybe something wrong on my gutsy chroot caused it :S | 04:17 |
asac | oh | 04:20 |
asac | hardware issue? | 04:20 |
hjmf | I hope not | 04:20 |
hjmf | I was doing two retraces one on gutsy and the other on edgy | 04:21 |
hjmf | I think I'm going to rebuild my gutsy chroot | 04:21 |
asac | system should not be crashable by user-space | 04:21 |
asac | so most likely driver issue? | 04:21 |
hjmf | mmm | 04:21 |
asac | or memory problem :) | 04:21 |
asac | or hard-disk | 04:22 |
asac | do you see anything in messages? | 04:22 |
asac | hjmf_: i talked with pitti about improving auto-dupe marking | 04:23 |
hjmf | yes | 04:23 |
asac | he is fine with adding a feature that allows us to manually merge in initial crashes | 04:23 |
asac | to existing dupe clusters ... so we don't need to remaster everything | 04:23 |
hjmf | cool | 04:23 |
asac | only change needed is to look if bug that is found as master in crashdb is marked as duplicate | 04:24 |
asac | and then use the real master to merge in new bug | 04:24 |
asac | hjmf_: so retrace of Cc: Bryce Harrington <bryce@ubuntu.com>, Alexander Sack <asac@canonical.com>, tim.gardner@canonical.com, amit.kucheria@canonical.com, Colin Watson <cjwatson@ubuntu.com>, Ben Collins <bcollins@ubuntu.com> | 04:25 |
asac | ups | 04:25 |
asac | :) | 04:25 |
hjmf | :) | 04:25 |
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asac | hmm offline | 04:32 |
asac | i hate this provider | 04:32 |
asac | today is really a bad day | 04:32 |
asac | haven't received anything for last 10 min or so | 04:33 |
asac | hjmf_: anyway ... i think the change should be done in apport/crashdb_impl/launchpad.py:319 | 04:34 |
asac | currently there is just bug.mark_duplicate(master) | 04:35 |
asac | which is the master found in crashdb | 04:35 |
asac | so how can i find if master is marked as duplicate to use that accordingly? | 04:35 |
asac | btw, the bzr branch i am looking at is: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/apport/ubuntu/ | 04:35 |
hjmf | looking | 04:36 |
asac | oh its line 257 | 04:36 |
asac | hjmf_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27432/ | 04:36 |
asac | thats the code | 04:36 |
asac | i guess | 04:36 |
asac | maybe we need to do something about mark_regression as well | 04:37 |
asac | but unsure | 04:38 |
hjmf | that code is just to mark a bug duplicate of another | 04:40 |
hjmf | as I have something similar in my scripts | 04:40 |
hjmf | we need something to change the master if is that what I understand? | 04:40 |
asac | hjmf_: no | 04:42 |
hjmf | ... maybe I'm lost | 04:42 |
asac | the idea is to look if master is 'not a master', but is already a child of another master | 04:42 |
asac | e.g. is master marked as duplicate of #xxxx | 04:42 |
asac | then use #xxxx instead | 04:42 |
hjmf | yes, that's what i meant | 04:42 |
hjmf | :) | 04:42 |
asac | ah | 04:42 |
hjmf | when I said change master of the one that apport sees | 04:43 |
asac | yes right ... e.g. bug.mark_duplicate(new_master) :) | 04:43 |
asac | with new_master = master.has_master() ? master.get_master() : master | 04:44 |
asac | ;) | 04:44 |
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asac | does python allow ? : ? | 04:44 |
hjmf | yes, but I'm not sure if that is the piece of code to look | 04:44 |
asac | why not? | 04:44 |
asac | its the place that apport calls if he finds a master in its crashdb | 04:44 |
asac | so we can always look if there is a master | 04:44 |
asac | i don't think we should add the new master to db | 04:45 |
hjmf | because bug.mark_duplicate(master.bugnumber) | 04:45 |
hjmf | its the place where a bug is marked as dup of a master | 04:45 |
hjmf | where the master is already knonw | 04:45 |
asac | right | 04:45 |
asac | sure | 04:45 |
hjmf | known | 04:45 |
asac | you can probably do it on higher level | 04:45 |
asac | just an initial idea :) | 04:46 |
hjmf | we need to find where/how are the masters set | 04:46 |
asac | probably in apport/crashdb.py | 04:46 |
hjmf | as masters | 04:46 |
asac | he? | 04:46 |
hjmf | looking | 04:46 |
asac | look apport/crashdb.py:142 | 04:46 |
asac | which looks a bit broken btw | 04:47 |
asac | e.g. the else: is somewhere in the limbo | 04:47 |
hjmf | hmm looking | 04:47 |
asac | hjmf_: but i really think launchpad.py is the right place as this feature is launchpad specific | 04:48 |
asac | it deals with the special constraint of launchpad that you cannot merge into a non-master | 04:48 |
asac | which (might) work in other bts | 04:48 |
hjmf | I think I have a different repo, downloading again | 04:49 |
hjmf | maybe what we look is at check_duplicate() in crashdb.py | 04:52 |
hjmf | seems that if not finds a master it adds a new one | 04:52 |
asac | hjmf_: yes thats all ok | 04:52 |
asac | i mean its just ment to support already existing master bugs | 04:52 |
asac | that are not in crashdb | 04:52 |
asac | i think if we add it to check_duplicate we need an astract method in crashdb: lookup_dupe | 04:55 |
asac | and recusively invoke that after we found the bugid in crashdb | 04:55 |
asac | yeah ... but take a look :) | 04:55 |
asac | i stop now ;) | 04:56 |
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hjmf | I'll take a look | 04:56 |
hjmf | :) | 04:56 |
asac | by bet is: simple fix in close_duplicate ... real fix: provide abstract method in crashdb to traverse duplicate up and implement that method in launchpad.py properly | 04:57 |
asac | :) | 04:57 |
asac | if the real fix is worth the efford depends how launchpad independent the rest of the code is | 04:57 |
asac | hmm baby appears to upload new gnash every minute | 04:59 |
asac | apparently she does daily cvs snapshots from a stable cvs branch :-P | 05:00 |
asac | how senseless ;) | 05:01 |
hjmf | asac: do you know from when is the db filled up? | 05:01 |
hjmf | s/from/since | 05:02 |
hjmf | <asac> yes right ... e.g. bug.mark_duplicate(new_master) | 05:03 |
hjmf | after all you were right :) | 05:03 |
hjmf | calling that will be enough as the new_master has a low id, and will be taken as the oldest report | 05:04 |
hjmf | let's say our master is bugVeryOld | 05:05 |
hjmf | so def close_duplicate(self, bugVeryOld.bugnumber, master): | 05:06 |
hjmf | ... never mind, I'll have to look deeper how it works | 05:07 |
hjmf | :) | 05:07 |
hjmf | I'm too tired now | 05:07 |
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hjmf | let's have some lunch | 05:07 |
asac_ | aaaaaahhhhh | 05:07 |
asac_ | gimme a bomb | 05:07 |
hjmf | asac_ you haven't read my stuff | 05:07 |
asac_ | probably not | 05:07 |
hjmf | asac_ better | 05:07 |
hjmf | :) | 05:07 |
asac_ | last message is 10 min ago | 05:07 |
asac_ | :) | 05:08 |
asac_ | hehe | 05:08 |
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asac_ | just kiddin | 05:08 |
hjmf | then <disclaimer> I'm too tired to read pitti's code </disclaimer> | 05:08 |
hjmf | :-P | 05:08 |
asac_ | k ;) | 05:10 |
asac_ | good appetite | 05:10 |
hjmf | asac_ before I go off | 05:11 |
hjmf | asac: do you know since when is the db filled up? | 05:11 |
asac_ | since a few days ... shouldn't matter for our case though ;) | 05:11 |
asac_ | unfortunately retraces are broken for us | 05:12 |
hjmf | yes | 05:12 |
asac_ | which is why i wondered if you get better ones | 05:12 |
asac_ | (pitti mentioned that it might be a new bug in latest apport) | 05:12 |
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asac_ | e.g. on granparadiso bug above | 05:12 |
asac_ | or my testbug from yesterday | 05:12 |
hjmf | yes a couple have resubmitted the full crash reports w/o coredumps | 05:12 |
hjmf | ok, I'll try them later | 05:13 |
hjmf | off for a while :) | 05:13 |
asac_ | cool cu | 05:13 |
asac_ | i will probably be here | 05:13 |
asac_ | might be out for sport a few hours | 05:13 |
hjmf | that's good | 05:13 |
hjmf | cu | 05:13 |
asac_ | but that is still not sure ... if the rain doesn' stop here I won't move a meter | 05:14 |
asac_ | its 12C :( | 05:14 |
gnomefreak | asac_: subscribing now | 05:14 |
asac_ | on Jun 27 | 05:14 |
asac_ | what a sad thing | 05:14 |
gnomefreak | soon as i find it | 05:14 |
asac_ | gnomefreak: great | 05:14 |
gnomefreak | theres already bugs on it | 05:16 |
asac_ | yes | 05:17 |
gnomefreak | done | 05:17 |
asac_ | which is my i noticed that i don't receive mails | 05:17 |
asac_ | thanks! | 05:17 |
gnomefreak | yw | 05:18 |
gnomefreak | any other new packages need to be done while im in here | 05:18 |
asac_ | not that i know of | 05:20 |
asac_ | is alpha6 out yet? | 05:20 |
asac_ | should be coming soon i guess | 05:20 |
gnomefreak | not sure yet i will let you know later this afternoon i have alot of house work to try and get done today | 05:20 |
gnomefreak | brb reboot | 05:21 |
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asac_ | am i back? | 05:28 |
asac_ | apparently | 05:28 |
asac_ | no fun today | 05:28 |
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kj[] | hi | 06:19 |
kj[] | does anyone know how to have thunderbird show the message size of big messages in MB instead of KB? | 06:19 |
bluekuja | asac; back | 06:26 |
bluekuja | asac: how its going? | 06:26 |
asac | yeah ... i will finish soon | 06:29 |
asac | not my day today | 06:29 |
asac | interenet connection dropped about 10 times today | 06:29 |
bluekuja | asac: gonna post the mail soon | 06:30 |
bluekuja | can you wait for that? | 06:30 |
bluekuja | :) | 06:30 |
asac | no idea | 06:30 |
asac | :) | 06:30 |
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bluekuja | asac: I hope so, it's something really important for me, you know :) | 06:31 |
asac | bluekuja: discussion will probably take more than 2 minutes | 06:31 |
bluekuja | lol | 06:31 |
asac | i don't expect that they need my comment today | 06:31 |
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bluekuja | I know :) | 06:32 |
hjmf | asac: I was trying to retrace your crash report, that one on gutsy and I get this gdb error "Failed to read a valid object file image from memory" | 07:29 |
hjmf | ... so I'm not able to get a much better retrace than the one from apport retracing service | 07:30 |
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asac | hmm | 07:34 |
asac | interesting | 07:34 |
hjmf | I can attach the gdb.log if you want to check it | 07:35 |
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asac | hjmf: dbgsym packages installed? | 07:58 |
asac | hjmf: do you get a readable backtrace if you run firefox -g | 07:58 |
hjmf | yep all of them | 07:58 |
asac | and then at some point hit ctrl-z (halt) | 07:58 |
asac | then type bt ? | 07:58 |
hjmf | asac: yes I've just retrace the granparadiso crash | 07:58 |
hjmf | asac: I'm going to try | 07:59 |
hjmf | asac: tested, backtrace with good symbols | 08:02 |
hjmf | with firefox-2.0.0.4...-dbsym | 08:02 |
hjmf | dbgsym | 08:03 |
asac | hmm ... so the coredumps are still borked | 08:04 |
asac | hmm | 08:04 |
asac | damn thing | 08:04 |
asac | i think i will upload with -fno-omit-framepointer (anti-optimization) | 08:05 |
asac | as soon as tribe-2 is out | 08:05 |
asac | just to see if it helps of us | 08:05 |
hjmf | asac: bug 122525 | 08:07 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 122525 in firefox-granparadiso "[GUTSY] firefox-granparadiso crashed [@??] [@~nsCOMPtr_base] [@~nsHttpTransaction] " [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122525 | 08:07 |
hjmf | I was able to get a good backtrace | 08:07 |
hjmf | despite I still have to set up my machinery for gutsy as I never thought I was going to use it | 08:08 |
asac | you have to setup (future) or had (past) ? | 08:09 |
asac | hjmf: that crash is due to incompatible extension | 08:10 |
hjmf | i think so | 08:10 |
asac | if extension works with our 2.0 package | 08:10 |
hjmf | I have to setup future :) | 08:11 |
hjmf | I trusted in apport retracing service for gutsy | 08:11 |
hjmf | :) | 08:11 |
hjmf | we are not getting granparaiso bugmail in ubuntumozilla-team-bugs, are we? | 08:19 |
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asac_ | yeah what fun this is | 08:26 |
asac_ | hjmf_: | 08:27 |
asac_ | 20:10 < hjmf> i think so | 08:27 |
asac_ | 20:10 < asac> if extension works with our 2.0 package | 08:27 |
asac_ | 20:10 < asac> then they should file bug at extension author that they fix their compatibility hints in install.rdf | 08:27 |
asac_ | 20:10 < asac> (e.g. so it gets disabled in 3.0) | 08:27 |
asac_ | 20:11 * asac brain.TODO.append("apport hook patch to firefox-granparadiso") | 08:27 |
asac_ | 20:12 < asac> hjmf: so can you retrace the other bugs in the same environment as this one? | 08:27 |
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hjmf | asac: your connection rules :-P | 08:48 |
asac | thanks | 08:49 |
asac | i will sell it on ebay i guess :) | 08:49 |
hjmf | I can retrace the gusty bugs that can be retraced, but slower than usual | 08:50 |
asac | hmmm ... what do you mean by slower? | 08:50 |
hjmf | but I'll fix it when I have time | 08:50 |
asac | just more CPU cycles? or more manual interaction needed? | 08:50 |
hjmf | more manual interaction | 08:50 |
hjmf | not a problem | 08:50 |
hjmf | will be fixed soon, maybe tomorrow | 08:51 |
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asac | hjmf: what manual interaction is needed? | 08:54 |
amigrave | is there an official firefox build in the ubuntu repositories ? | 08:55 |
asac | maybe that info will help us to track down the problem with auto-retracers | 08:55 |
asac | amigrave: there are official ubuntu packages ... yes | 08:55 |
amigrave | asac: i meant mozilla official build installable via apt | 08:56 |
asac | no | 08:56 |
hjmf | asac: I'm using apport -g to check all the errors it produces | 08:56 |
hjmf | that means running gdb by hand and review what packages are missing | 08:56 |
asac | hmmm ... so packages are not properly detected? | 08:57 |
hjmf | but just by personal decision, not by an apport problem | 08:57 |
asac | he? | 08:57 |
asac | so would it work without manual interaction? | 08:57 |
asac | (e.g. at least to get basic good results?) | 08:57 |
hjmf | I tried and it didn't work right | 08:57 |
hjmf | some packages weren't installed | 08:57 |
hjmf | dunno why so I went by hand | 08:58 |
hjmf | but apport run rightly in the next tries | 08:58 |
asac | damn ... so the bug has always been there ... i think this is the issue pitti wanted to look into -> e.g. why aren't proper packages found | 08:59 |
hjmf | so there's no problem with apport, maybe I'm insane today | 08:59 |
hjmf | hmm | 08:59 |
hjmf | not sure | 08:59 |
asac | why no problem with apport ... i don't understand that | 08:59 |
asac | are you using latest apport? | 08:59 |
hjmf | yes | 08:59 |
asac | hmmm maybe the old one still works? | 08:59 |
hjmf | I have to try | 08:59 |
asac | damn i ordered a pizza more than one hour ago ... still no door bell | 09:08 |
asac | i am starving | 09:08 |
Admiral_Chicago | i'm pretty hungry too | 09:11 |
hjmf | I'm going to have dinner right now :D | 09:16 |
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asac | finally pizza arrived | 09:26 |
asac | almost cold of course | 09:27 |
Admiral_Chicago | asac: using the latest bughelper? | 09:34 |
Admiral_Chicago | bugnumbers -p firefox --lc="d:2007-05-27" > possibleuntouched | 09:35 |
Admiral_Chicago | doesn't work for me at version 0.2 | 09:35 |
Admiral_Chicago | r~183 | 09:35 |
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asac | Admiral_Chicago: hmm ... is that a new feature? | 09:48 |
bluekuja | asac: mail sent | 09:48 |
bluekuja | :) | 09:48 |
bluekuja | I've cced asac@ubuntu.com | 09:49 |
bluekuja | I hope its ok | 09:49 |
bluekuja | ;) | 09:49 |
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asac | bluekuja: sure | 09:51 |
bluekuja | :) | 09:51 |
asac | bluekuja: tomorrow i will figure out what to do next :) | 09:51 |
bluekuja | asac: sounds great! :) | 09:51 |
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bluekuja | asac: I'm leaving | 10:19 |
bluekuja | good night | 10:19 |
bluekuja | :) | 10:19 |
JenFraggle | hello people | 10:31 |
Admiral_Chicago | hey there JenFraggle | 10:33 |
JenFraggle | how are things here tonight? | 10:34 |
Admiral_Chicago | busy with Hug day | 10:35 |
JenFraggle | of course, I forgot about that | 10:35 |
Admiral_Chicago | asac: were you able to get that bugnumbers query working? | 10:35 |
asac | Admiral_Chicago: sorry was doing something else | 11:13 |
asac | Admiral_Chicago: do i have to use bzr or what? | 11:14 |
asac | how do i use bzr bughelper branch? | 11:14 |
asac | i forgot :) | 11:14 |
Admiral_Chicago | are you using gutsy? | 11:16 |
Admiral_Chicago | you just install bughelper if you are | 11:16 |
asac | i have gutsy chroot | 11:19 |
asac | i don't want to boot my 'noisy' system with gutsy atm :) | 11:19 |
Admiral_Chicago | hmm, okay well then I'll figure it out | 11:19 |
asac | wait | 11:19 |
asac | i have bzr branch here on disk i see | 11:19 |
asac | lets see | 11:19 |
Admiral_Chicago | i'm looking to build a list of all the bugs that haven't been touched in 30+ days | 11:19 |
asac | hmm i think my branch is outdated | 11:20 |
asac | still has ~bugsquad | 11:20 |
asac | ... but i am sure that i branched from new location as well | 11:20 |
asac | Admiral_Chicago: thats pretty cool | 11:20 |
asac | Admiral_Chicago: can we add more conditions to it? | 11:20 |
Admiral_Chicago | but i'm not sure, the query is having issues | 11:20 |
Admiral_Chicago | yes | 11:21 |
Admiral_Chicago | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Diaries/bdmurray | 11:21 |
asac | i mean bughelper conditions ... like <op> ... ? | 11:21 |
asac | can we express that in clue files as well? | 11:22 |
Admiral_Chicago | date as a condition? | 11:22 |
asac | he? | 11:22 |
asac | can we say something like date="< $today + 15d" ? | 11:23 |
Admiral_Chicago | i thought about that already, the reason I haven't implented it yet is because i'm not sure how to do it. | 11:23 |
asac | first: do you know exactly what you want to do? | 11:23 |
Admiral_Chicago | that may need to interface with the computers date. | 11:23 |
asac | as soon as we know that ... we can definitly figure out a way to do that | 11:23 |
Admiral_Chicago | i'd like to look at bugs that have been opened and aren't reproduceable or missing information | 11:23 |
asac | yes right | 11:24 |
Admiral_Chicago | bug reports that have requests for more information | 11:24 |
asac | anyway ... i think there are some meta questions to answer first | 11:24 |
asac | i fail to see their definition/destinctions: | 11:24 |
Admiral_Chicago | ? | 11:24 |
asac | what is a clue file and what is a bugquery ? | 11:24 |
asac | is there a difference? | 11:24 |
asac | afaik you can do things in bughelper command line tool that you can't do in clue | 11:25 |
asac | and vv | 11:25 |
asac | why is it that way? | 11:25 |
Admiral_Chicago | i don't know | 11:25 |
Admiral_Chicago | which is a problem | 11:25 |
Admiral_Chicago | i think you could do it in a cue file | 11:25 |
Admiral_Chicago | but I'm not sure how | 11:25 |
asac | i talked to mkorn and dholbach once short about this ... they ment that its ment to be different | 11:26 |
asac | but then they couldn't tell what a cluefile is compared to a bugquery | 11:26 |
asac | personally i think a cluefile shoulod be a crawler algorithm :) | 11:26 |
asac | e.g. you can refining matches and output comments on matches :)( | 11:27 |
asac | s/can refining/ can do refining/ | 11:27 |
asac | but that is far away from what cluefiles are atm | 11:27 |
asac | atm they are just something you cannot really define | 11:27 |
asac | they are kind of crawler instruction in that each clue is run on every bug | 11:28 |
asac | and the file name used is the only refinement that reduces the crawled set of bugs | 11:28 |
asac | hard to describe | 11:28 |
asac | you think you understand what i mean? | 11:29 |
Admiral_Chicago | reading... | 11:29 |
Admiral_Chicago | sorry was in a meeting | 11:30 |
asac | ALLBUGS --> (refined -> only bugs with packagename == filename) --> evaluate clue | 11:30 |
Admiral_Chicago | yes i know what you mean | 11:30 |
asac | so my idea is to make refinement recursive: | 11:31 |
asac | ALLBUGS -> [ (refined by clue) -> ] * -> output | 11:31 |
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asac | stupid implementation would just evaluate clues on on subset previously refined | 11:31 |
Admiral_Chicago | i know what you mean | 11:31 |
asac | yeah :) | 11:32 |
Admiral_Chicago | i'll look at some conditions. | 11:32 |
Admiral_Chicago | maybe I can hack it up somehow | 11:32 |
asac | smart implementation could refine as much as possible by using query url :) | 11:33 |
asac | but first stupid would be enough | 11:33 |
asac | Admiral_Chicago: i already looked at it once ... but ran away crying :) | 11:36 |
asac | when i looked conditions where no objects, but just strings | 11:36 |
Admiral_Chicago | ah okay | 11:36 |
asac | which made in infeasible hard to do really expand the feature set | 11:37 |
Admiral_Chicago | hmm | 11:37 |
Admiral_Chicago | .win 13 | 11:37 |
asac | but maybe thekorn changed that | 11:37 |
Admiral_Chicago | hopefully | 11:37 |
Admiral_Chicago | i need a break | 11:37 |
asac | maybe look what he did on his branch | 11:37 |
asac | i will try to find it :) | 11:37 |
Admiral_Chicago | been sitting for two long | 11:37 |
Admiral_Chicago | asac: i have a link | 11:37 |
Admiral_Chicago | two == four | 11:37 |
asac | hehe | 11:38 |
Admiral_Chicago | apparently i don't have a link...wth | 11:38 |
asac | hmm | 11:39 |
asac | does he develop in private? | 11:40 |
asac | ok branching latest | 11:41 |
Admiral_Chicago | i think he has a branch, maybe its the py-lp-bugs one i saw | 11:44 |
Admiral_Chicago | its all on lp | 11:45 |
asac | hmmm ... maybe he hasn't begun to work on bughelper? | 11:49 |
asac | just on python-lp-bugs? | 11:50 |
gnomefreak | this is not looking good at all | 11:50 |
gnomefreak | asac: bug 122683 and bug 122389 look like they have same stack both related to glib | 11:51 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 122683 in gnash "gnash crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122683 | 11:51 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 122389 in compiz "gtk-window-decorator crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122389 | 11:51 |
asac | Admiral_Chicago: do you know a good set of fields we can match in clues atm? | 11:51 |
asac | tags, states, fulltext (incl. attachments) ... what else? | 11:51 |
asac | what the hell is signal 5 | 11:52 |
asac | why do i see so many signal 5 crashes lately? | 11:52 |
asac | SEGV is signal 11 right? | 11:52 |
gnomefreak | not sure about that | 11:52 |
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asac | gnomefreak: that is a bug in x11 / opengl i guess | 11:54 |
asac | its BadWindow | 11:54 |
gnomefreak | ended up reinstalling to fix the crashes | 11:54 |
gnomefreak | gnash shouldnt need opengl | 11:54 |
gnomefreak | assuming you mean 3D opengl | 11:54 |
asac | opengl has 2d as well | 11:55 |
asac | but you are right ... gnash shouldn't use opengl, but it currently does | 11:55 |
asac | i have to backport patch to build with agg | 11:55 |
gnomefreak | ah ok | 11:55 |
asac | hope this brings some heeling | 11:55 |
gnomefreak | thats what bluekuja was working on | 11:55 |
asac | he worked on libagg rigbht | 11:55 |
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asac | i have to backport the patch though --- i guess | 11:56 |
asac | its really interesting to see the difference of submitting patches to gnome or pushing them to bugzilla | 11:57 |
asac | in gnome they get applied immediately | 11:58 |
asac | in bugzilla it will take ages if you don't ping them in channel | 11:58 |
Admiral_Chicago | asac: i'll have to look at the code. I'm not sure off the top of my head | 11:59 |
Admiral_Chicago | afk for a few minues | 12:00 |
gnomefreak | i think we have a klash tester for your patch, utube is crashing X with klash i hear | 12:00 |
asac | gnomefreak: lots of people crash X :) | 12:04 |
asac | nowadays | 12:04 |
gnomefreak | hes using klash when it crashes :) | 12:04 |
gnomefreak | i was talking to him in #kubuntu-devel | 12:04 |
asac | yeah ... opengl can cause any kind of nifty problem with driver you want | 12:04 |
asac | and if driver goes down ... X goes down | 12:04 |
gnomefreak | yep | 12:05 |
asac | which is why we need agg | 12:05 |
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asac | but if switch to agg now, then there wouldn't be klash at all | 12:05 |
gnomefreak | oh that is bad | 12:05 |
asac | because 0.8.0 doesn't support agg for kde | 12:05 |
gnomefreak | what do we need to wait for? upstream to add support? | 12:06 |
asac | if too many people complain about broken klash/konqueror plugin ... i will just disable .-P | 12:06 |
asac | less work for me ;) | 12:06 |
gnomefreak | lol | 12:06 |
asac | gnomefreak: we need someone to backport the changes needed for agg renderer in kde | 12:06 |
asac | they have landed on trunk pretty shortly after branch for release was created | 12:07 |
asac | so should be not too hard | 12:07 |
asac | i will do that if noone else does it ... so we are waiting for me atm | 12:07 |
asac | :) | 12:07 |
gnomefreak | :) | 12:07 |
asac | anyway ... i will talk to gnash devels | 12:08 |
gnomefreak | brb need smoke | 12:08 |
asac | maybe we even go back to trunk | 12:08 |
asac | but for that i need some estimate when they will release 0.8.1 | 12:08 |
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gnomefreak | they just released 0.8.0 didnt they? | 12:16 |
asac | yes | 12:16 |
asac | but they push much atm | 12:16 |
asac | http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/gnash/trunk/changes | 12:17 |
asac | there are changes | 12:17 |
gnomefreak | looks like they push daily | 12:18 |
asac | they work a lot | 12:18 |
asac | hope they work efficiently as well | 12:18 |
asac | they really have a long way to go still | 12:18 |
gnomefreak | they are using agg already | 12:18 |
gnomefreak | by the looks of it | 12:18 |
asac | they have multiple renderers | 12:19 |
asac | agg, opengl and something else | 12:19 |
asac | fb? | 12:19 |
asac | maybe | 12:19 |
gnomefreak | ah ok | 12:19 |
asac | opengl is not really bad ... its just too hardware dependent | 12:19 |
gnomefreak | correct | 12:20 |
asac | gnomefreak: when do you want to start merges? | 12:25 |
gnomefreak | what merges and as soon as i learn how | 12:25 |
asac | gnomefreak: e.g. as a next challenge .) | 12:26 |
gnomefreak | if you mean merge new release from debian | 12:26 |
asac | yes | 12:26 |
gnomefreak | im setting up chroots tonight | 12:26 |
asac | for packages on merges.ubuntu.com | 12:26 |
gnomefreak | tomorrow sound good? | 12:26 |
asac | http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe-manual.html | 12:27 |
asac | gnomefreak: actually i am not that familiar with merging procedures (as in how it should be) :) ... so i willl learn something as well | 12:29 |
asac | i think: | 12:29 |
asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Merging | 12:29 |
asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Merging | 12:29 |
asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/Merging-and-Syncing | 12:29 |
asac | should be a good start | 12:29 |
asac | :) | 12:29 |
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