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gnomefreakthis fucking sucks02:02
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asaci am out02:58
gnomefreakyeah me to02:58
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hjmf_morning!08:05
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asac_morning ... anyone has encrypted wifi?10:47
jerome_yep10:48
Admiral_Chicagoasac_: i do, not on gutsy though10:50
Admiral_Chicagositting with a lappy right next to me on WEP10:50
asacAdmiral_Chicago: thanks ... but i need gutsy10:51
DarkMageZAdmiral_Chicago, wep ftl10:51
asacjerome_: you are on gutsy?10:51
jerome_asac : no10:52
asac:(10:52
jerome_sorry :)10:52
asacnp10:52
Admiral_ChicagoDarkMageZ: whats wrong with WEP?10:54
DarkMageZAdmiral_Chicago, it's a highly broken encryption setup... infact. it's the most broken encryption method ever used.10:55
Admiral_Chicagowhat should I use WAP?10:55
Admiral_Chicagowhatever that is called10:55
DarkMageZwpa? yes10:55
DarkMageZwep = 2-50minutes10:56
asacbug 12122810:56
ubotuLaunchpad bug 121228 in network-manager "[gutsy]  segfault retrieving passphrase for WiFi network" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12122810:56
asacis my concern atm10:56
DarkMageZwpa (with a semi-smart key) = 1week-200years.10:56
Admiral_ChicagoDarkMageZ: i'm an idiot and forgot the login name to my router so i can't change it now10:57
Admiral_Chicagoi'll change it soon, thanks for the tip10:57
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DarkMageZAdmiral_Chicago, i'd be reviewing any authentication logs your access point has been keeping.11:00
asacAdmiral_Chicago: night11:00
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bluekujaasac: hrya12:28
bluekuja*heya12:28
bluekujaasac: leaving for work12:54
bluekujawill you be here later?12:54
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jerome_hello02:28
jerome_i've just started to triage firefox bugs02:28
jerome_i'm starting with bug 12253902:28
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122539 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12253902:28
jerome_if the report has no stacktrace/backtrace...02:29
jerome_and if it's a random crash02:29
jerome_we should close it ?02:30
asacits already invalid :)02:36
asacprobably i was faster :)02:36
asacjerome_: ^^^02:36
asacbut otherwise yes ... close and ask reporter to resubmit next time he has a crash02:36
jerome_asac : ok :)02:36
asacjerome_: are you going through New bugs?02:37
asacfine02:37
asachow many New bugs do we have atm?02:37
jerome_granparadiso -> 202:37
jerome_firefox -> 1502:37
asacgood ... not that bad :)02:38
jerome_thunderbird -> 2602:38
asacjerome_: ah ... for crashes we fix summary right from the beginning because we had lots of triagers marking bugs dupes that aren't02:38
asace.g. its always firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV i summary02:38
asacso we make [gutsy]  firefox crashed out of it02:38
asacand tag mt-needsummary02:39
jerome_ok02:39
asacor [feisty]  ... or whatever02:39
asac:)02:39
jerome_for example let's take bug #12252502:39
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122525 in firefox-granparadiso "firefox-granparadiso-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12252502:39
jerome_the backtrace is full of ???02:39
jerome_so i put mt-needreport and mt-needtestcase02:39
asacyeah same for latest firefox submissions02:39
jerome_and ask for a backtrace with debug symbols on ?02:40
asacauto-retracers appear to just yield garbage for us02:40
asacjerome_: no ... lets wait what hjmf_ can get02:40
jerome_ok02:40
jerome_you have your own retracer ?02:40
asache usually can produce good retraces where auto-retracers fail02:40
jerome_ok02:40
asachjmf_: somehow ... we had auto-retracers before they were setup02:41
jerome_so just needtestcase ?02:41
asacfor now its mt-needretrace02:41
jerome_and to testcase ?02:41
asacas it need retrace try by mozillateam member02:41
asacyou can tag as mt-needtestcase ... but usally we don't do that before we have a good retrace02:41
jerome_ok02:41
asacbecause we deliberately reject bugs without usable trace anyway02:41
asacyou can drop info that reporter may reopen if he can reproduce and provide step-by-step instruction though02:42
asacbut if retracers fail ... tag mt-needretrace first and wait what hjmf_ can do02:42
jerome_ok02:42
jerome_done :)02:42
asacjerome_: great!02:43
jerome_hard to change habits...02:43
asachjmf_: can you see if we get better results for bug 122393 and bug 12252502:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122393 in firefox "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in raise()" [Undecided,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12239302:43
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122525 in firefox-granparadiso "firefox-granparadiso-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12252502:43
jerome_and I bump the LP status to incomplete or just leave it to new ?02:44
asacjerome_: incomplete02:44
jerome_asac : ok02:44
asacas soon as you did something its always incomplete02:44
jerome_ok02:44
jerome_asac : and for importance you have a different scale ? Or it's the normal one ?02:44
asacso retitle bug 122525 '[gutsy]  firefox-granparadiso crashed'02:45
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122525 in firefox-granparadiso "firefox-granparadiso-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12252502:45
asacjerome_: we used to set all crashers to High02:45
asacbut i am reconsidering this atm02:45
jerome_asac : so I put it on high until then ?02:45
asacjerome_: yes02:46
jerome_asac : ok !02:46
jerome_thx02:46
asacnp02:47
asacgnomefreak: can you subscribe mozilla-bugs to firefox-granparadiso bugs?02:54
asachjmf_: maybe we miss loads of dupes of bug 1491103:17
ubotuLaunchpad bug 14911 in firefox "Flash plugin problem with ARGB visuals causes crash" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1491103:17
asacwe somehow don't have a retrace03:17
asachjmf_: looking at dupe list ... it stopped at bug-id 77k ... but i don't think this issue is fixed03:17
asacmozilla bug 34374703:47
ubotuMozilla bug 343747 in History "bfcache should only cache documents where the channel implements nsICachingChannel" [Normal,Unconfirmed]  http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34374703:47
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hjmf<asac> hjmf_: maybe we miss loads of dupes of bug 1491104:04
hjmf<ubotu> Launchpad bug 14911 in firefox "Flash plugin problem with ARGB visuals causes crash" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1491104:04
hjmf<asac> we somehow don't have a retrace04:04
ubotuLaunchpad bug 14911 in firefox "Flash plugin problem with ARGB visuals causes crash" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1491104:04
ubotuLaunchpad bug 14911 in firefox "Flash plugin problem with ARGB visuals causes crash" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1491104:04
hjmfhmm, I might be able to retrace the last report attached which seems to be from edgy in the hope that shows something useful...04:04
hjmfbut not the others as look to be from dapper04:05
hjmfasac: do we have -dbg or -dbgsym for firefox-granparadiso?04:07
hjmfit seems not04:07
asachjmf: yes there should be04:11
asacin pittis repo04:11
asacat least we have for latest firefox04:11
hjmflooking04:11
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hjmfuha! I had a full system crash04:17
hjmfmaybe something wrong on my gutsy chroot caused it :S04:17
asacoh04:20
asachardware issue?04:20
hjmfI hope not04:20
hjmfI was doing two retraces one on gutsy and the other on edgy04:21
hjmfI think I'm going to rebuild my gutsy chroot04:21
asacsystem should not be crashable by user-space04:21
asacso most likely driver issue?04:21
hjmfmmm04:21
asacor memory problem :)04:21
asacor hard-disk04:22
asacdo you see anything in messages?04:22
asachjmf_: i talked with pitti about improving auto-dupe marking04:23
hjmfyes04:23
asache is fine with adding a feature that allows us to manually merge in initial crashes04:23
asacto existing dupe clusters ... so we don't need to remaster everything04:23
hjmfcool04:23
asaconly change needed is to look if bug that is found as master in crashdb is marked as duplicate04:24
asacand then use the real master to merge in new bug04:24
asachjmf_: so retrace of Cc: Bryce Harrington <bryce@ubuntu.com>,                                         Alexander Sack <asac@canonical.com>, tim.gardner@canonical.com,          amit.kucheria@canonical.com, Colin Watson <cjwatson@ubuntu.com>,         Ben Collins <bcollins@ubuntu.com>04:25
asacups04:25
asac:)04:25
hjmf:)04:25
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asachmm offline04:32
asaci hate this provider04:32
asactoday is really a bad day04:32
asachaven't received anything for last 10 min or so04:33
asachjmf_: anyway ... i think the change should be done in apport/crashdb_impl/launchpad.py:31904:34
asaccurrently there is just bug.mark_duplicate(master)04:35
asacwhich is the master found in crashdb04:35
asacso how can i find if master is marked as duplicate to use that accordingly?04:35
asacbtw, the bzr branch i am looking at is: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/apport/ubuntu/04:35
hjmflooking04:36
asacoh its line 25704:36
asachjmf_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27432/04:36
asacthats the code04:36
asaci guess04:36
asacmaybe we need to do something about mark_regression as well04:37
asacbut unsure04:38
hjmfthat code is just to mark a bug duplicate of another04:40
hjmfas  I have something similar in my scripts04:40
hjmfwe need something to change the master if is that what I understand?04:40
asachjmf_: no04:42
hjmf... maybe I'm lost04:42
asacthe idea is to look if master is 'not a master', but is already a child of another master04:42
asace.g. is master marked as duplicate of #xxxx04:42
asacthen use #xxxx instead04:42
hjmfyes, that's what i meant04:42
hjmf:)04:42
asacah04:42
hjmfwhen I said change master of the one that apport sees04:43
asacyes right ... e.g. bug.mark_duplicate(new_master) :)04:43
asacwith new_master = master.has_master() ? master.get_master() : master04:44
asac;)04:44
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asacdoes python allow ? : ?04:44
hjmfyes, but I'm not sure if that is the piece of code to look04:44
asacwhy not?04:44
asacits the place that apport calls if he finds a master in its crashdb04:44
asacso we can always look if there is a master04:44
asaci don't think we should add the new master to db04:45
hjmfbecause bug.mark_duplicate(master.bugnumber)04:45
hjmfits the place where a bug is marked as dup of a master04:45
hjmfwhere the master is already knonw04:45
asacright04:45
asacsure04:45
hjmfknown04:45
asacyou can probably do it on higher level04:45
asacjust an initial idea :)04:46
hjmfwe need to find where/how are the masters set04:46
asacprobably in apport/crashdb.py04:46
hjmfas masters04:46
asache?04:46
hjmflooking04:46
asaclook apport/crashdb.py:14204:46
asacwhich looks a bit broken btw04:47
asace.g. the else: is somewhere in the limbo04:47
hjmfhmm looking04:47
asachjmf_: but i really think launchpad.py is the right place as this feature is launchpad specific04:48
asacit deals with the special constraint of launchpad that you cannot merge into a non-master04:48
asacwhich (might) work in other bts04:48
hjmfI think I have a different repo, downloading again04:49
hjmfmaybe what we look is at   check_duplicate() in crashdb.py04:52
hjmfseems that if not finds a master it adds a new one04:52
asachjmf_: yes thats all ok04:52
asaci mean its just ment to support already existing master bugs04:52
asacthat are not in crashdb04:52
asaci think if we add it to check_duplicate we need an astract method in crashdb: lookup_dupe04:55
asacand recusively invoke that after we found the bugid in crashdb04:55
asacyeah ... but take a look :)04:55
asaci stop now ;)04:56
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hjmfI'll take a look04:56
hjmf:)04:56
asacby bet is: simple fix in close_duplicate ... real fix: provide abstract method in crashdb to traverse duplicate up and implement that method in launchpad.py properly04:57
asac:)04:57
asacif the real fix is worth the efford depends how launchpad independent the rest of the code is04:57
asachmm baby appears to upload new gnash every minute04:59
asacapparently she does daily cvs snapshots from a stable cvs branch :-P05:00
asachow senseless ;)05:01
hjmfasac: do you know from when is the db filled up?05:01
hjmfs/from/since05:02
hjmf<asac> yes right ... e.g. bug.mark_duplicate(new_master)05:03
hjmfafter all you were right :)05:03
hjmfcalling that will be enough as the new_master has a low id, and will be taken as the oldest report05:04
hjmflet's say our master is bugVeryOld05:05
hjmfso def close_duplicate(self, bugVeryOld.bugnumber, master):05:06
hjmf... never mind, I'll have to look deeper how it works05:07
hjmf:)05:07
hjmfI'm too tired now05:07
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hjmflet's have some lunch05:07
asac_aaaaaahhhhh05:07
asac_gimme a bomb05:07
hjmfasac_ you haven't read my stuff05:07
asac_probably not05:07
hjmfasac_ better05:07
hjmf:)05:07
asac_last message is 10 min ago05:07
asac_:)05:08
asac_hehe05:08
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asac_just kiddin05:08
hjmfthen <disclaimer> I'm too tired to read pitti's code </disclaimer>05:08
hjmf:-P05:08
asac_k ;)05:10
asac_good appetite05:10
hjmfasac_ before I go off05:11
hjmfasac: do you know since when is the db filled up?05:11
asac_since a few days ... shouldn't matter for our case though ;)05:11
asac_unfortunately retraces are broken for us05:12
hjmfyes05:12
asac_which is why i wondered if you get better ones05:12
asac_(pitti mentioned that it might be a new bug in latest apport)05:12
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asac_e.g. on granparadiso bug above05:12
asac_or my testbug from yesterday05:12
hjmfyes a couple have resubmitted the full crash reports w/o coredumps05:12
hjmfok, I'll try them later05:13
hjmfoff for a while :)05:13
asac_cool cu05:13
asac_i will probably be here05:13
asac_might be out for sport a few hours05:13
hjmfthat's good05:13
hjmfcu05:13
asac_but that is still not sure ... if the rain doesn' stop here I won't move a meter05:14
asac_its 12C :(05:14
gnomefreakasac_: subscribing now05:14
asac_on Jun 2705:14
asac_what a sad thing05:14
gnomefreaksoon as i find it05:14
asac_gnomefreak: great05:14
gnomefreaktheres already bugs on it05:16
asac_yes05:17
gnomefreakdone05:17
asac_which is my i noticed that i don't receive mails05:17
asac_thanks!05:17
gnomefreakyw05:18
gnomefreakany other new packages need to be done while im in here05:18
asac_not that i know of05:20
asac_is alpha6 out yet?05:20
asac_should be coming soon i guess05:20
gnomefreaknot sure yet i will let you know later this afternoon i have alot of house work to try and get done today05:20
gnomefreakbrb reboot05:21
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asac_am i back?05:28
asac_apparently05:28
asac_no fun today05:28
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kj[] hi06:19
kj[] does anyone know how to have thunderbird show the message size of big messages in MB instead of KB?06:19
bluekujaasac; back06:26
bluekujaasac: how its going?06:26
asacyeah ... i will finish soon06:29
asacnot my day today06:29
asacinterenet connection dropped about 10 times today06:29
bluekujaasac: gonna post the mail soon06:30
bluekujacan you wait for that?06:30
bluekuja:)06:30
asacno idea06:30
asac:)06:30
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bluekujaasac: I hope so, it's something really important for me, you know :)06:31
asacbluekuja: discussion will probably take more than 2 minutes06:31
bluekujalol06:31
asaci don't expect that they need my comment today06:31
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bluekujaI know :)06:32
hjmfasac: I was trying to retrace your crash report, that one on gutsy and I get this gdb error "Failed to read a valid object file image from memory"07:29
hjmf... so I'm not able to get a much better retrace than the one from apport retracing service07:30
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asachmm07:34
asacinteresting07:34
hjmfI can attach the gdb.log if you want to check it07:35
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asachjmf:  dbgsym packages installed?07:58
asachjmf: do you get a readable backtrace if you run firefox -g07:58
hjmfyep all of them07:58
asacand then at some point hit ctrl-z (halt)07:58
asacthen type bt ?07:58
hjmfasac: yes I've just retrace the granparadiso crash07:58
hjmfasac: I'm going to try07:59
hjmfasac: tested, backtrace with good symbols08:02
hjmfwith firefox-2.0.0.4...-dbsym08:02
hjmfdbgsym08:03
asachmm ... so the coredumps are still borked08:04
asachmm08:04
asacdamn thing08:04
asaci think i will upload with -fno-omit-framepointer (anti-optimization)08:05
asacas soon as tribe-2 is out08:05
asacjust to see if it helps of us08:05
hjmfasac: bug 12252508:07
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122525 in firefox-granparadiso "[GUTSY]  firefox-granparadiso crashed [@??]  [@~nsCOMPtr_base]  [@~nsHttpTransaction] " [High,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12252508:07
hjmfI was able to get a good backtrace08:07
hjmfdespite I still have to set up my machinery for gutsy as I never thought I was going to use it08:08
asacyou have to setup (future) or had (past) ?08:09
asachjmf:  that crash is due to incompatible extension08:10
hjmfi think so08:10
asacif extension works with our 2.0 package08:10
hjmfI have to setup future :)08:11
hjmfI trusted in apport retracing service for gutsy08:11
hjmf:)08:11
hjmfwe are not getting granparaiso bugmail in ubuntumozilla-team-bugs, are we?08:19
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asac_yeah what fun this is08:26
asac_hjmf_:08:27
asac_20:10 < hjmf> i think so08:27
asac_20:10 < asac> if extension works with our 2.0 package08:27
asac_20:10 < asac> then they should file bug at extension author that they fix their compatibility hints in install.rdf08:27
asac_20:10 < asac> (e.g. so it gets disabled in 3.0)08:27
asac_20:11  * asac brain.TODO.append("apport hook patch to firefox-granparadiso")08:27
asac_20:12 < asac> hjmf: so can you retrace the other bugs in the same environment as this one?08:27
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hjmfasac: your connection rules :-P08:48
asacthanks08:49
asaci will sell it on ebay i guess :)08:49
hjmfI can retrace the gusty bugs that can be retraced, but slower than usual08:50
asachmmm ... what do you mean by slower?08:50
hjmfbut I'll fix it when I have time08:50
asacjust more CPU cycles? or more manual interaction needed?08:50
hjmfmore manual interaction08:50
hjmfnot a problem08:50
hjmfwill be fixed soon, maybe tomorrow08:51
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asachjmf: what manual interaction is needed?08:54
amigraveis there an official firefox build in the ubuntu repositories ?08:55
asacmaybe that info will help us to track down the problem with auto-retracers08:55
asacamigrave: there are official ubuntu packages ... yes08:55
amigraveasac: i meant mozilla official build installable via apt08:56
asacno08:56
hjmfasac: I'm using apport -g to check all the errors it produces08:56
hjmfthat means running gdb by hand and review what packages are missing08:56
asachmmm ... so packages are not properly detected?08:57
hjmfbut just by personal decision, not by an apport problem08:57
asache?08:57
asacso would it work without manual interaction?08:57
asac(e.g. at least to get basic good results?)08:57
hjmfI tried and it didn't work right08:57
hjmfsome packages weren't installed08:57
hjmfdunno why so I went by hand08:58
hjmfbut apport run rightly in the next tries08:58
asacdamn ... so the bug has always been there ... i think this is the issue pitti wanted to look into -> e.g. why aren't proper packages found08:59
hjmfso there's no problem with apport, maybe I'm insane today08:59
hjmfhmm08:59
hjmfnot sure08:59
asacwhy no problem with apport ... i don't understand that08:59
asacare you using latest apport?08:59
hjmfyes08:59
asachmmm maybe the old one still works?08:59
hjmfI have to try08:59
asacdamn i ordered a pizza more than one hour ago ... still no door bell09:08
asaci am starving09:08
Admiral_Chicagoi'm pretty hungry too09:11
hjmfI'm going to have dinner right now :D09:16
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asacfinally pizza arrived09:26
asacalmost cold of course09:27
Admiral_Chicagoasac: using the latest bughelper?09:34
Admiral_Chicagobugnumbers -p firefox --lc="d:2007-05-27" > possibleuntouched09:35
Admiral_Chicagodoesn't work for me at version 0.209:35
Admiral_Chicagor~18309:35
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asacAdmiral_Chicago: hmm ... is that a new feature?09:48
bluekujaasac: mail sent09:48
bluekuja:)09:48
bluekujaI've cced asac@ubuntu.com09:49
bluekujaI hope its ok09:49
bluekuja;)09:49
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asacbluekuja: sure09:51
bluekuja:)09:51
asacbluekuja: tomorrow i will figure out what to do next :)09:51
bluekujaasac: sounds great! :)09:51
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bluekujaasac: I'm leaving10:19
bluekujagood night10:19
bluekuja:)10:19
JenFragglehello people10:31
Admiral_Chicagohey there JenFraggle10:33
JenFragglehow are things here tonight?10:34
Admiral_Chicagobusy with Hug day10:35
JenFraggleof course, I forgot about that10:35
Admiral_Chicagoasac: were you able to get that bugnumbers query working?10:35
asacAdmiral_Chicago: sorry was doing something else11:13
asacAdmiral_Chicago: do i have to use bzr or what?11:14
asachow do i use bzr bughelper branch?11:14
asaci forgot :)11:14
Admiral_Chicagoare you using gutsy?11:16
Admiral_Chicagoyou just install bughelper if you are11:16
asaci have gutsy chroot11:19
asaci don't want to boot my 'noisy' system with gutsy atm :)11:19
Admiral_Chicagohmm, okay well then I'll figure it out11:19
asacwait11:19
asaci have bzr branch here on disk i see11:19
asaclets see11:19
Admiral_Chicagoi'm looking to build a list of all the bugs that haven't been touched in 30+ days11:19
asachmm i think my branch is outdated11:20
asacstill has ~bugsquad11:20
asac... but i am sure that i branched from new location as well11:20
asacAdmiral_Chicago: thats pretty cool11:20
asacAdmiral_Chicago: can we add more conditions to it?11:20
Admiral_Chicagobut i'm not sure, the query is having issues11:20
Admiral_Chicagoyes11:21
Admiral_Chicagohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Diaries/bdmurray11:21
asaci mean bughelper conditions ... like <op> ... ?11:21
asaccan we express that in clue files as well?11:22
Admiral_Chicagodate as a condition?11:22
asache?11:22
asaccan we say something like date="< $today + 15d" ?11:23
Admiral_Chicagoi thought about that already, the reason I haven't implented it yet is because i'm not sure how to do it.11:23
asacfirst: do you know exactly what you want to do?11:23
Admiral_Chicagothat may need to interface with the computers date.11:23
asacas soon as we know that ... we can definitly figure out a way to do that11:23
Admiral_Chicagoi'd like to look at bugs that have been opened and aren't reproduceable or missing information11:23
asacyes right11:24
Admiral_Chicagobug reports that have requests for more information11:24
asacanyway ... i think there are some meta questions to answer first11:24
asaci fail to see their definition/destinctions:11:24
Admiral_Chicago?11:24
asacwhat is a clue file and what is a bugquery ?11:24
asacis there a difference?11:24
asacafaik you can do things in bughelper command line tool that you can't do in clue11:25
asacand vv11:25
asacwhy is it that way?11:25
Admiral_Chicagoi don't know11:25
Admiral_Chicagowhich is a problem11:25
Admiral_Chicagoi think you could do it in a cue file11:25
Admiral_Chicagobut I'm not sure how11:25
asaci talked to mkorn and dholbach once short about this ... they ment that its ment to be different11:26
asacbut then they couldn't tell what a cluefile is compared to a bugquery11:26
asacpersonally i think a cluefile shoulod be a crawler algorithm :)11:26
asace.g. you can refining matches and output comments on matches :)(11:27
asacs/can refining/ can do refining/11:27
asacbut that is far away from what cluefiles are atm11:27
asacatm they are just something you cannot really define11:27
asacthey are kind of crawler instruction in that each clue is run on every bug11:28
asacand the file name used is the only refinement that reduces the crawled set of bugs11:28
asachard to describe11:28
asacyou think you understand what i mean?11:29
Admiral_Chicagoreading...11:29
Admiral_Chicagosorry was in a meeting11:30
asacALLBUGS --> (refined -> only bugs with packagename == filename) --> evaluate clue11:30
Admiral_Chicagoyes i know what you mean11:30
asacso my idea is to make refinement recursive:11:31
asacALLBUGS -> [ (refined by clue) -> ] * -> output11:31
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asacstupid implementation would just evaluate clues on on subset previously refined11:31
Admiral_Chicagoi know what you mean11:31
asacyeah :)11:32
Admiral_Chicagoi'll look at some conditions.11:32
Admiral_Chicagomaybe I can hack it up somehow11:32
asacsmart implementation could refine as much as possible by using query url :)11:33
asacbut first stupid would be enough11:33
asacAdmiral_Chicago: i already looked at it once ... but ran away crying :)11:36
asacwhen i looked conditions where no objects, but just strings11:36
Admiral_Chicagoah okay11:36
asacwhich made in infeasible hard to do really expand the feature set11:37
Admiral_Chicagohmm11:37
Admiral_Chicago.win 1311:37
asacbut maybe thekorn changed that11:37
Admiral_Chicagohopefully11:37
Admiral_Chicagoi need a break11:37
asacmaybe look what he did on his branch11:37
asaci will try to find it :)11:37
Admiral_Chicagobeen sitting for two long11:37
Admiral_Chicagoasac: i have a link11:37
Admiral_Chicagotwo == four11:37
asachehe11:38
Admiral_Chicagoapparently i don't have a link...wth11:38
asachmm11:39
asacdoes he develop in private?11:40
asacok branching latest11:41
Admiral_Chicagoi think he has a branch, maybe its the py-lp-bugs one i saw11:44
Admiral_Chicagoits all on lp11:45
asachmmm ... maybe he hasn't begun to work on bughelper?11:49
asacjust on python-lp-bugs?11:50
gnomefreakthis is not looking good at all11:50
gnomefreakasac: bug 122683 and bug 122389 look like they have same stack both related to glib11:51
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122683 in gnash "gnash crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [High,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12268311:51
ubotuLaunchpad bug 122389 in compiz "gtk-window-decorator crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/12238911:51
asacAdmiral_Chicago: do you know a good set of fields we can match in clues atm?11:51
asactags, states, fulltext (incl. attachments) ... what else?11:51
asacwhat the hell is signal 511:52
asacwhy do i see so many signal 5 crashes lately?11:52
asacSEGV is signal 11 right?11:52
gnomefreaknot sure about that11:52
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asacgnomefreak: that is a bug in x11 / opengl i guess11:54
asacits BadWindow11:54
gnomefreakended up reinstalling to fix the crashes11:54
gnomefreakgnash shouldnt need opengl11:54
gnomefreakassuming you mean 3D opengl11:54
asacopengl has 2d as well11:55
asacbut you are right ... gnash shouldn't use opengl, but it currently does11:55
asaci have to backport patch to build with agg11:55
gnomefreakah ok11:55
asachope this brings some heeling11:55
gnomefreakthats what bluekuja was working on11:55
asache worked on libagg rigbht11:55
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asaci have to backport the patch though --- i guess11:56
asacits really interesting to see the difference of submitting patches to gnome or pushing them to bugzilla11:57
asacin gnome they get applied immediately11:58
asacin bugzilla it will take ages if you don't ping them in channel11:58
Admiral_Chicagoasac: i'll have to look at the code. I'm not sure off the top of my head11:59
Admiral_Chicagoafk for a few minues12:00
gnomefreaki think we have a klash tester for your patch, utube is crashing X with klash i hear12:00
asacgnomefreak: lots of people crash X :)12:04
asacnowadays12:04
gnomefreakhes using klash when it crashes :)12:04
gnomefreaki was talking to him in #kubuntu-devel12:04
asacyeah ... opengl can cause any kind of nifty problem with driver you want12:04
asacand if driver goes down ... X goes down12:04
gnomefreakyep12:05
asacwhich is why we need agg12:05
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asacbut if switch to agg now, then there wouldn't be klash at all12:05
gnomefreakoh that is bad12:05
asacbecause 0.8.0 doesn't support agg for kde12:05
gnomefreakwhat do we need to wait for? upstream to add support?12:06
asacif too many people complain about broken klash/konqueror plugin ... i will just disable .-P12:06
asacless work for me ;)12:06
gnomefreaklol12:06
asacgnomefreak: we need someone to backport the changes needed for agg renderer in kde12:06
asacthey have landed on trunk pretty shortly after branch for release was created12:07
asacso should be not too hard12:07
asaci will do that if noone else does it ... so we are waiting for me atm12:07
asac:)12:07
gnomefreak:)12:07
asacanyway ... i will talk to gnash devels12:08
gnomefreakbrb need smoke12:08
asacmaybe we even go back to trunk12:08
asacbut for that i need some estimate when they will release 0.8.112:08
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gnomefreakthey just released 0.8.0 didnt they?12:16
asacyes12:16
asacbut they push much atm12:16
asachttp://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/gnash/trunk/changes12:17
asacthere are changes12:17
gnomefreaklooks like they push daily12:18
asacthey work a lot12:18
asachope they work efficiently as well12:18
asacthey really have a long way to go still12:18
gnomefreakthey are using agg already12:18
gnomefreakby the looks of it12:18
asacthey have multiple renderers12:19
asacagg, opengl and something else12:19
asacfb?12:19
asacmaybe12:19
gnomefreakah ok12:19
asacopengl is not really bad ... its just too hardware dependent12:19
gnomefreakcorrect12:20
asacgnomefreak: when do you want to start merges?12:25
gnomefreakwhat merges and as soon as i learn how12:25
asacgnomefreak: e.g. as a next challenge .)12:26
gnomefreakif you mean merge new release from debian12:26
asacyes12:26
gnomefreakim setting up chroots tonight12:26
asacfor packages on merges.ubuntu.com12:26
gnomefreaktomorrow sound good?12:26
asachttp://merges.ubuntu.com/universe-manual.html12:27
asacgnomefreak: actually i am not that familiar with merging procedures (as in how it should be) :) ... so i willl learn something as well12:29
asaci think:12:29
asachttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Merging12:29
asachttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Merging12:29
asachttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/Merging-and-Syncing12:29
asacshould be a good start12:29
asac:)12:29

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