[12:34] <kruuli> got everything up and running superm1 :>
[12:34] <kruuli> dont even need a soundcard when im using my xbox as a frontend :D
[12:35] <superm1> great kruuli
[12:35] <kruuli> so np with the usb soundcard then :)
[12:35] <kruuli> yeah its great
[12:35] <superm1> did you do it with xbmc?
[12:35] <kruuli> yeah
[12:35] <superm1> or add mythtv
[12:35] <kruuli> python script for xbmc
[12:35] <superm1> does it have support for comm skip and scheduleing?
[12:35] <superm1> and stuff?
[12:35] <kruuli> yeah everything
[12:35] <kruuli> dont have any of the plugins like video and music and stuff
[12:36] <kruuli> but xbmc rocks at that so np
[12:36] <kruuli> xmltv is a pain in the ass
[12:36] <kruuli> have to add everything by hand
[12:36] <superm1> wow the comm skip and such too?
[12:36] <superm1> that's pretty neat then
[12:37] <kruuli> yeah comm skip and all
[12:37] <kruuli> it access the mythtv database and backend
[12:37] <kruuli> i belive
[12:38] <superm1> could you point me at this python script?
[12:38] <superm1> i'd be interested to read about it
[12:38] <kruuli> yeah the xbox is small and quiet so its a sweat setup .. extra + for me when i dont have to use my crapy soundcard and graphics card
[12:38] <kruuli> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xbmcmythtv/
[12:39] <kruuli> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Xbox_Frontend
[12:40] <kruuli> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSgjNwvo4HE
[12:41] <kruuli> hes using a pretty old XBMC .. my mythtv autostarts now when i boot the xbox
[12:43] <superm1> ah
[12:43] <superm1> i didn't see any indications that comm skip was active
[12:43] <kruuli> check the youtube vid :)
[12:43] <superm1> i did
[12:44] <superm1> it looked like he just opened the heroes vid
[12:44] <superm1> but nothing more
[12:44] <kruuli> you can set .. dont skip always skip and ask
[12:44] <superm1> well that's pretty awesome
[12:44] <superm1> does it play in mplayer then (like the rest of xbmc)?
[12:44] <kruuli> yeah
[12:44] <superm1> how can mplayer handle the cutlists
[12:44] <superm1> ?
[12:44] <superm1> and jump points
[12:45] <kruuli> dunno :o
[12:45] <kruuli> dosnt mythtv like flag that in the database?
[12:45] <superm1> yes
[12:45] <kruuli> think it picks it from there then
[12:45] <superm1> but no app is able to use those i thought
[12:45] <superm1> other than mythtv
[12:45] <kruuli> seems like xbmcmythtv does :)
[12:46] <superm1> kruuli, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=480821
[12:46] <superm1> you might want to see if you can help that fellow out
[12:47] <kruuli> that was a pain .. only problem i encountered
[12:47] <superm1> i'm guessing he just hasn't opened up mysql?
[12:47] <kruuli> tbh dont really know how it got fixed
[12:47] <superm1> and set his master backend appropriately in mythtv-setup
[12:47] <kruuli> it has to do with the new mysql
[12:47] <kruuli> changeing password chache or something
[12:47] <superm1> ick
[12:47] <kruuli> so you have to go back using old passwords
[12:48] <kruuli> http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1738450&forum_id=436331
[12:49] <superm1> you might want to leave that info for him
[12:49] <superm1> and let him know
[12:49] <superm1> /etc/mythv/mysql.txt
[12:49] <superm1> has his current password
[12:50] <kruuli> ah posted
[12:50] <superm1> i almost want an xbox just to play with this thing
[12:50] <kruuli> hehe
[12:50] <superm1> but it wouldnt take any of my HD stuff
[12:51] <superm1> so wouldnt be worth it in the end
[12:51] <kruuli> nope thats the thing
[12:51] <kruuli> only got analog atm
[12:51] <superm1> as of the build two days ago though:
[12:51] <superm1> mythbuntu works for HD
[12:51] <superm1> off the live disk
[12:51] <superm1> (for me at least)
[12:51] <kruuli> lol .. thats crazy :)
[12:52] <superm1> i only tried it with 720p stuff - i anticipate the 1080i would throw it though because turning on bob is a mess
[12:52] <superm1> unless you turn on prop. drivers
[12:52] <kruuli> heh
[12:53] <kruuli> think the script is acting a bit wierd though
[12:53] <kruuli> if i go into live tv it starts putting everyting in recordings
[12:53] <kruuli> prolly some setting i got wrong
[12:54] <superm1> well isn't that normal behavior?
[12:54] <superm1> just you need to filter it
[12:54] <superm1> to show or not show live tv recordings
[12:54] <superm1> DaveMorris, this reminds me - about the pre-entered info for mythtv-setup.  Do you think its feasible to do a basic dump with preset settings on no tuners, and automatically determine a person's ip address, hostname and pass those through sed on the dump and put that all into mysql?
[12:55] <superm1> so if someone has "no" tuners - they dont need to run mythtv-setup
[12:55] <superm1> it automatically binds on their ethernet interface then
[12:55] <superm1> and lets the frontend run
[12:55] <superm1> then later adding a tuner can be figured out too
[12:56] <kruuli> superm1 oh ok .. but after a while i get a question "do you want to keep recording 300 min left" and after that i ends the feed
[12:57] <superm1> so it sounds like your filling up your drive
[12:57] <superm1> perhaps this can't trigger autoexpire
[12:57] <superm1> like how normal mythfrontend can
[12:57] <superm1> so it relies on the backend to do that
[01:00] <kruuli> yeah .. i see all the stats the backend gives me
[01:00] <kruuli> oh .. think i know whats wrong
[01:00] <kruuli> superm1 wheres mythtvs livetv buffer?
[01:00] <superm1> same place as the recordings area
[01:00] <kruuli> ah k
[01:23] <DaveMorris> superm1 that might work
[01:24] <superm1> the only thing is its a bit messy figuring out the ip address in python
[01:24] <DaveMorris> but isn't that all you setup on mythtv-setup really, the tunner cards etc
[01:24] <superm1> well you need to go to the general page
[01:24] <superm1> or that first info isn't populated right
[01:26] <superm1> actually this might be possible to take a step further
[01:26] <superm1> and move that into the normal mythtv packages
[01:27] <superm1> to at least prefill that data
[01:27] <superm1> using the results of 'hostname' and a bunch of ifconfig | cut magic
[01:30] <DaveMorris> sounds good
[01:30] <DaveMorris> you could also maybe do some majic based on the tuner card selected
[01:30] <superm1> after i get mythtv-setup's launch in ubiquity i'll toy with that
[01:31] <DaveMorris> since they choose the cards during install, and if you know the location (based on locale)
[01:31] <superm1> the problem is i think at  this point a lot of that will be dependent on keescook's udev magic
[01:31] <DaveMorris> can't you do it based on the cards they say they have during the installer
[01:31] <superm1> wasn't sure what to do with that right now.  make the user think they are doing something productive by chosing ;)
[01:32] <superm1> well the udev stuff keescook was going to do would make symlinks
[01:32] <superm1> so you would know a pvr 500 is /dev/v4l/pvr500
[01:32] <superm1> (for ex)
[01:32] <superm1> so card names could be fully represented when chosen
[01:32] <DaveMorris> sounds good
[01:33] <superm1> twokedo's firmware detector needs to get going though too for this to work
[01:33] <DaveMorris> that your friend?
[01:33] <superm1> yea
[01:33] <superm1> he is interning at micron this summer and wanted a summer project
[01:33] <DaveMorris> you know anything about connecting 3rd party boxes to mythtv?
[01:33] <superm1> 3rd party as in?
[01:33] <DaveMorris> sky, ntl
[01:33] <superm1> can't say i do
[01:33] <DaveMorris> per per view stuff
[01:34] <superm1> well for non pay per view stuff
[01:34] <superm1> its not bad
[01:34] <DaveMorris> I wanna add sections for them to the manual, for the diff countries etc
[01:34] <superm1> set up a n IR blaster
[01:34] <superm1> or serial changer
[01:34] <DaveMorris> yeah thats it
[01:34] <superm1> or firewire changer
[01:34] <keescook> the udev stuff still hasn't gotten very far yet, I'm afraid.
[01:34] <superm1> keescook, :(
[01:34] <DaveMorris> you need IR blasters here, but me and Daviey only use freeview stuff
[01:34] <keescook> the v4l folks haven't been very interested in helping
[01:35] <superm1> keescook, any idea why?
[01:35] <keescook> not sure; I figure they are busy with other stuff
[01:35] <keescook> the real problem is that there is no "unique" information exported really
[01:35] <keescook> I'm considering just writing a special external handler for it
[01:35] <superm1> an external utility
[01:35] <superm1> where would it parse from?
[12:11] <DaveMorris> hmm, my mythbuntu blog posting is turning up on the mythdora blog feed
[12:11] <DaveMorris> I've had around 15 referrals from it :)
[01:59] <Daviey> DaveMorris: It's the wordpress shared tag!  :D
[02:00] <laga> superm1: you were right. i *am* running into focus issues with mythfrontend running on :0.1
[02:51] <rogue780> yey! the power's back on
[02:53] <laga> computer is working much better now, huh?
[02:54] <rogue780> yeah. for a while there I had the black screen of death. now everything's workin'
[02:54] <rogue780> afk
[03:27] <superm1> Daviey, ping
[03:27] <superm1> laga, hey
[03:27] <superm1> what happened with focus?
[03:27] <superm1> DaveMorris, what blog posting?
[03:33] <laga> superm1: i told you about my plans wrt using my normal computer a s a frontend, right?
[03:33] <superm1> yea
[03:35] <laga> superm1: keyboard and mouse is bound to my normal KDE session on :0.0; on :0.1, where mythfrontend resides, i can't use the config menus.
[03:35] <laga> i think i have found a setting in kde that'll solve that problem, though
[03:35] <superm1> yup that sounds just like what i had happen to
[03:35] <superm1> what setting?
[03:36] <laga> i'll tell you later, i have to run
[03:36] <superm1> ok
[03:38] <DaveMorris> superm1: http://davemorris.wordpress.com/2007/06/26/mythbuntu/
[03:39] <superm1> LVM!!!!???
[03:39] <superm1> :)
[03:40] <DaveMorris> yeah eventually, either a walk through in the manual or in the installer
[03:40] <laga> why do you need LVM? just use storage groups once 0.21 is released :)
[03:40] <superm1> exactly
[03:41] <DaveMorris> but when is .21 gonna be released ;)
[03:43] <laga> 100 active tickets? not too bad :P
[03:43] <superm1> it was at 91 a few days ago though
[03:44] <superm1> and 94 a few days before that
[03:44] <laga> darn, projectm is not working for me in mythmusic :(
[03:44] <DaveMorris> yep esp since some are plugin related
[03:44] <laga> gotta investigate later
[03:45] <laga> omg it's working
[03:46] <laga> almost. :)
[04:41] <superm1> Daviey, i'm ready with regard to the installer to go alpha 2 publicly as soon as you have the metas ready
[05:01] <superm1> :)
[05:02] <superm1> DaveMorris, the final page count for alpha 2 is 15
[05:02] <superm1> the last page does mythtv-setup
[05:02] <superm1> *before* you reboot
[05:02] <DaveMorris> sounds good
[05:02] <DaveMorris> superm1: you any good with LIRCD?
[05:02] <DaveMorris> and wanna write that section for the manual?
[05:03] <superm1> i did author http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty & ""/Install_Lirc_Edgy
[05:03] <superm1> i've been purposely putting off doing anything lirc related on mythbuntu until I spoke to the ubuntu media centre guys
[05:03] <DaveMorris> ok, I'll grab all the content from there
[05:04] <superm1> because they are supposed to change a lot for gutsy
[05:07] <superm1> DaveMorris, http://d.gardon.free.fr/vase/Capture-1.png
[05:07] <superm1> that's something up and coming from the umc folks
[05:07] <DaveMorris> umc?
[05:08] <superm1>  ubuntu media centre
[05:08] <DaveMorris> seems good, whats myth-control in the repos about?
[05:09] <superm1> what repo?
[05:09] <DaveMorris> ubuntu ones
[05:09] <superm1> gutsy?
[05:09] <DaveMorris> feisty
[05:09] <superm1> apt-cache search myth-control turned up nothing
[05:10] <DaveMorris> hmmm
[05:10] <superm1> run: apt-cache policy myth-control
[05:10] <DaveMorris> I could of sworn I saw it at home
[05:11] <DaveMorris> I must of been tired and got confused with mythcontrols
[05:12] <superm1> hopefully - 'cuz i never heard of this :)
[09:26] <laga> superm1: since the PSU in my main box has just blown up, the mythweb auth backport might take even longer :(
[10:00] <superm1> laga, it works in trunk though right?
[10:01] <laga> superm1: except for that error message when purging :(
[10:02] <laga> i never figured that one out
[10:02] <laga> i'll get a replacement PSU on friday, i think
[10:27] <kruuli> any good guides on xmltv and grabbers?
[10:27] <kruuli> cant get the freakin thing to work
[10:28] <laga> what's your problem?
[10:28] <laga> oh, ask in #mythtv-users
[10:28] <laga> there are more people
[10:29] <kruuli> will do
[10:48] <superm1> laga, is everything else working on -fixes
[10:48] <superm1> just the purge?
[10:51] <laga> superm1: nothing is working on -fixes yet :(
[10:51] <laga> i was gonna fix the purge on -trunk first, but that was time-consuming as usual. i didn't get very far :(
[10:51] <superm1> ah okay
[10:56] <superm1> possible easy fix laga...
[10:56] <superm1> do you "set +e"
[10:56] <superm1> or set -e
[10:56] <superm1> in the file?
[11:14] <Daviey> superm1: pong
[11:14] <superm1> Daviey, hey
[11:14] <superm1> making progress on metas?
[11:16] <Daviey> sorta
[11:16] <superm1> i'm about ready on the installer
[11:16] <Daviey> I know, i read...
[11:16] <superm1> i have one or two more minor things to take care of
[11:16] <Daviey> :(
[11:16] <superm1> and tribe-2 (ubuntu) is coming out this week or next week afaik
[11:17] <superm1> wanted to try to be ready at the same time as them
[11:17] <Daviey> freeze went on yesterday aiui
[11:17] <Daviey> fair nuff; i'll defiently have the seeds out tommorow :)
[11:18] <superm1> awesome
[11:20] <superm1> from what it looks like, most of it is listing packages in those seeds that you need?
[11:20] <superm1> and germination handles the rest
[11:20] <superm1> but that is probably a very simplified explanation
[11:21] <Daviey> yes :)
[11:24] <superm1> well Daviey if you have any questions about it that you think i can help, ask away and i'll try :)
[11:38] <Daviey> will do.. thanks
[11:53] <kruuli> might aswell post it here also :) http://tv.swedb.se/component/option,com_joomlaboard/Itemid,61/func,view/id,1930/catid,3/ <-- help!
[11:54] <superm1> kruuli, looks like that grabber is broken
[11:54] <kruuli> you think?
[11:54] <superm1> that's what i read
[11:55] <kruuli> hum ok
[11:55] <kruuli> im more on the line that i did something wrong when installing it or havent configured it the right way or something
[11:55] <superm1> well that grabber, where did you get it
[11:55] <superm1> that its sitting in /usr/local/bin
[11:55] <superm1> instead of /usr/bin
[11:56] <kruuli> from tv.swedb.se
[11:56] <kruuli> it should be in /usr/bin?
[11:59] <kruuli> yeah your on to something there
[11:59] <kruuli> think it depends on what user you are on when installing the graber and what user you were on when installing mythtv
[12:00] <superm1> well its all about how you installed the grabber
[12:00] <kruuli> could it be that the grabber uses root and mythtv uses my personal login?
[12:00] <superm1> is it installed with the 'xmltv' package?
[12:01] <kruuli> yes
[12:01] <superm1> and then how does it work?
[12:01] <superm1> does it need to find the grabber next?
[12:01] <superm1> and download it from within xmltv?
[12:03] <kruuli> http://g-ding.tv/?q=node/872
[12:04] <kruuli> think thats the solution to my problems
[12:04] <kruuli> will try it right away
[12:11] <superm1> keescook, nixternal ack'ed that revu as well today (after advised change from TheMuso).  would you be able to give it one more once over and upload?  To answer your previous question, SVGs aren't available since its all modified from that existing GTK theme blueheart
[12:14] <DaveMorris> evening all
[12:14] <DaveMorris> brb
[12:15] <superm1> hey DaveMorris
[12:15] <keescook> superm1: I'm presently swamped -- perhaps later in the week after tribe2 releases?
[12:16] <superm1> keescook, sure.  no rush at this point since its just a gtk theme :)
[12:16] <superm1> keescook, with how things are going is tribe 2 on schedule?
[12:16] <superm1> i saw some bug reports re apport and the partitioner being big
[12:16] <keescook> yeah, looks on schedule, but tons of last-minute fixes/updates.
[12:17] <DaveMorris> !mythtv
[12:17] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[12:17] <kruuli> keescook game developer?
[12:17] <superm1> DaveMorris, you should look in the topic
[12:17] <superm1> its there too
[12:17] <superm1> :)
[12:17] <keescook> kruuli: hm?
[12:18] <kruuli> superm1 the guide says i should move the file videosource.xmltv .. but after a search of my system if finds no such file :/ any idea where it can be?
[12:18] <kruuli> keescook isnt tribes a game? :D
[12:18] <superm1> kruuli, tribe 2 is the ubuntu alpha 2 :)
[12:19] <kruuli> haha
[12:19] <keescook> kruuli: ah, "tribes" is, yes.  alpha-releases for ubuntu gutsy are called "tribe".  :)
[12:19] <kruuli> got it! :D
[12:19] <keescook> hehe
[12:19] <superm1> kruuli, off hand no
[12:19] <kruuli> kk
[12:30] <DaveMorris> superm1: oh well
[12:30] <DaveMorris> !mythbuntu
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mythbuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <DaveMorris> superm1: ^^
[12:31] <superm1> we can get Seveas to add us