[12:18] mhb: does it for me. but you know how opinionated artwork can make people so do ask around === Riddell_ [n=jr@jasmine.wyrdweb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:24] UPstream? === never|mobi [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44670.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Riddell [i=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:22] Riddell: you're not awake, I presume [01:24] What would you do if he said No? [01:24] No :) [01:25] I would tell him "go to sleep, you deserve it" [01:25] "but before you go..." [01:25] http://bayimg.com/KACdJAAbj [01:26] new knotify? === Arby [n=richard@82.152.177.18] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:26] no, a child of KPassivePopup [01:27] oh yes [01:27] a class which simply sets a different width and palette [01:27] but did you change KPassivePopup or just in power-manager? [01:27] just a hack in power-manager [01:28] fair enough [01:28] I don't know anything else that actually uses KPassivePopup, since it's so ugly normally [01:29] KBluetooth perhaps [01:29] also, Kopete bubbles may be a type of KPassivePopup [01:29] but I'm not sure about that [01:30] what's happening with knotify in kde4?not heard much [01:32] Riddell: now the kmilo OSD and we'll be consistent :o) [01:40] xerosis: I've not heard much either [01:41] knotify just got some qt4 love I think so far [01:41] nixternal: does it look any better? [01:41] probably not yet [01:42] well, it can't be any worse... === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-67-143.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neversfelde|mobi [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44670.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt_ [n=jack@124.64.106.39] has joined #kubuntu-devel === siretart [i=siretart@ubuntu/member/siretart] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fdoving [n=frode@ubuntu/member/frode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Shely [n=huahua@60.20.49.26] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cynics [n=cynics@123.116.98.41] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@210.5.108.2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pdenapo [i=pablo@201.255.17.28] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:59] Hello, I've been testing kubuntu 7.04 [03:59] but it still has a serious bug [04:00] that has been reported a long time ago but it is not fixed [04:00] it cannot detect a serial mouse [04:01] I think is a serious issue for newbbies [04:02] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/9068 [04:02] Launchpad bug 9068 in xorg "Serial mice are not autodetected" [Medium,Confirmed] [04:02] exactly [04:02] but something has to be done about it [04:02] advanced users like myself can edit the xorg. file by hand [04:02] and kill the X server process [04:03] but this is not acceptable for newbbies [04:03] pdenapo: you see, it's not Kubuntu's fault [04:03] pdenapo: because that bug is in Xorg [04:03] pdenapo: and we share the Xorg package with Ubuntu [04:03] but we can do something about it [04:03] we can provide for example [04:04] an option to select at boot time [04:04] for using a serial mouse [04:04] pdenapo: it can be fixed, no doubt about it. But the people in this channel are KDE package maintainers mostly. [04:04] I think it is an mdect problem [04:04] ah, OK [04:04] pdenapo: the #ubuntu-devel channel might help you more [04:05] thanks [04:05] I will try to discuss the issue there [04:05] sorry for creating noise, then [04:06] pdenapo: No problem - we just can't do much with your problem. === manchicken [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === never|mobi [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442d1.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:10] Okay, it's hacking time. [04:11] Riddell: Since I've been so roadblocked by the bzr branch of adept, I'm gonna just work off of the deb-src version. [04:12] I've got a couple bugs that I'm going to try to squish tonight. === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.62.217] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:36] I'm wondering if the dependencies in the deb-src for adept are correct. === hunger_t [n=tobias@p54A71FA0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=skreech@katapult/ninja/daskreech] has joined #kubuntu-devel === never|mobi [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db442d1.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === xerosis [n=kieran@cpc2-shep5-0-0-cust722.lei3.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.62.217] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:58] what is new and outstanding in Tribe 2 for us? [05:58] you! [05:59] why thank you :) [05:59] the gutsy-changes list wasn't getting updated due to the lp updates iirc [06:00] gdebi-kde right mhb :) [06:12] Adept has got to be one of the trickiest programs to debug. [06:13] hehe === nixternal eats pizza [06:13] manchicken: RE: your earlier statement about sound: some app is mucking with your mixer element(s). [06:14] crimsun: Yeah... I know that my sound device is easily distracted, so I have the sound system lock it and hold onto the lock. === Zanoi [n=zanoi@zanoi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LongPointyStick [n=mystery@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === siretart [i=siretart@ubuntu/member/siretart] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fdoving [n=frode@ubuntu/member/frode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:14] sometimes it just seems like something gets to it first. === BentJ [n=BentJ@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:15] crimsun: But gutsy is working quite nicely. [06:15] The benefit of running the unstable development version is that you can hack without chroots ;) [06:21] :grins === DaSkreech kicks his MUDDIng habits === manchicken stabs the vim gu... [06:22] guy* [06:23] I naturally read that as GUI [06:23] manchicken: have you used vigor? [06:23] Nope. I've used GNU Emacs though :) [06:28] You do know that the vi guy is older right? [06:28] so .. you have much less reason (and moral standing) to stab him === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:35] ?me hugs Hobbsee === DaSkreech bahs [06:35] Stupid Windows has my fingers fugged [06:35] hey DaSkreech! === Hobbsee hugs DaSkreech back [06:36] hehe [06:36] Good morning (for you) Hobbsee. I got my kdepim branch finally today. [06:37] ScottK: yay! === ajmitch would hug Hobbsee, but would probably get stabbed by a LongPointyStick [06:39] ajmitch: now you know i dont stab people who hug me... [06:39] ajmitch: you survived last time [06:39] poke in ribs? [06:39] no, no [06:39] true... === Hobbsee hugs ajmitch [06:40] ok === ajmitch hugs Hobbsee [06:40] :) [06:40] not dead yet [06:40] ScottK: i dont think it's morning here either [06:40] so what's up? [06:41] Oh. Sorry. [06:42] Hobbsee: Good $TIME_OF_DAY to you. [06:42] :) [06:42] ajmitch: been doing release type stuff, etc. it's fun! [06:43] lucky you === ajmitch went to finish off a merge (for main), and found that there's a new upstream release already [06:44] !hobbsee [06:44] I phear the stick so shhhhh === nixternal hugs #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee hugs nixternal [06:45] ajmitch: I love working on a package, get it all ready, and bam, new upstream release, or Debian went ahead and released another version in the mean time [06:46] nixternal: this was both - I was working on samba 3.0.25a-2, so of course 3.0.25b-1 got let out [06:46] nixternal: Sounds like me on Kubunutt unstable [06:46] whooo, any goodness to the new release? [06:46] more bug fixes [06:47] cool [06:47] by the time I do a apt-get update the smae packages I just updated have a new candidate [06:47] Well, I suppose I have good and bad news... [06:47] I found the cause of bug #119969. [06:47] Launchpad bug 119969 in adept "Adept Installer review changes screen has a useless Details button." [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119969 [06:47] That's the good news. [06:48] bad news is it requires a rewrite? [06:48] The bad news is that it's gonna take some real work to get that details button wrking. [06:48] Not a rewrite, but that button is bound to an event that goes OVER the river and THROUGH the woods to grandmother's house for manager and updater by using the adept::Browser widget. [06:49] Bug complains about a useless button. Removing the button also satsifies the bug, right ;-) [06:49] But adept installer doesn't make use of adept::Browser, so the event gets lost in the forest. [06:49] ScottK: Yeah, but I like making the button useful. It is a useful button. [06:50] Thus the ;-). Be careful what you ask for, you may get it. [06:50] Adept Installer uses the View class for the preview. [06:50] Ah. [06:58] I think I may have hacked it... though I fully expect some very strange behavior with this hack :) [06:58] Nothing like sucking the marrow from one method for use in another :) [06:59] hrmm, just noticed that the DigiKam 0.9.2 final release hasn't been uploaded yet [07:02] same with k3b [07:03] DAMNIT. View is a QSplitter widget while Browser is a QWidgetStack widget. [07:03] I don't even know what a QSplitter is. I'll have to take this up tomorrow with JR. [07:03] I'm gonna hit the hay to save some brain cells. [07:04] Check you all later. [07:04] g'nite [07:05] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Tribe2/Kubuntu [07:05] that is what I have so far, nothing written up, but the updates listed at least === Nightrose [n=lydia@port-87-234-150-228.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.192.120] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:04] now you can look at the page, there is content and pics! :) [08:06] eeeeek [08:07] s/GDebi/kDebi/g ummm k? [08:08] GDebi-KDE [08:08] it should be KDebi truthfully [08:08] apt-cache show gdebi-kde [08:08] Is it QT? [08:08] yup [08:08] ... why isn't it KDebi? [08:08] Ian got huffy? [08:08] ask mhb, not me === Jucato thinks we have a trend of pre/postfixing "kde" rather than "K" to Kubuntu ports of Ubuntu stuff [08:11] KDE GDebi? [08:11] postfixing rather... [08:12] software-properties-kde, hwdb-kde... [08:12] ubiquity-frontend-kde [08:13] oh it was hwdb-client-kde === _marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.176.77] has joined #kubuntu-devel === vprints [n=laur@ip184.cab26.trt.starman.ee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee drools... [08:28] anyone else seen the new crystal icons yet? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:39] Hobbsee: I am using them [08:39] they are really nice [08:39] I love the speaker when you hit mute, although mute doesn't do anything for me with gutsy now ;( [08:39] nixternal: have you made a package for them? [08:39] no I haven't...should I? [08:39] yes [08:40] roger that, will do [08:46] nixternal: when are you going for motu? === nixternal became a MOTU on 2007-06-28 [08:47] err, 27 [08:47] nixternal: congrats [08:47] thanks [08:48] i missed the meeting [08:48] yw [08:48] so did I, I woke up to it :) [08:49] :) === gnomefreak wants a few merges under my belt before i go for it [08:50] i dont think my repo counts to what they are looking for in packaging experience [08:51] manchicken: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/(Kate)+FileTree+plugin?content=60026 <-- weren't you and I just talking about such a thing? [08:51] well, you don't have to be the worlds greatest packager, motu is the stepping stone for core-dev, which I think is pretty cool [08:54] congrats nixternal [08:55] thanks [09:01] Riddell, ping [09:03] nixternal: yes, you definetly should :) [09:03] I definitely should what? [09:03] nixternal: make a package for those. === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:04] nixternal: do you reckon that those rock harder than the oxygen ones? [09:06] they are damn good no doubt. dunno where they stand against oxygen though, the oxygen color template I like better [09:07] i prefer this colour template, for some reason. [09:07] oxygen looks quite black and flat to me [09:07] i'ts shiny - but it's very black too [09:07] there are some that do ya [09:08] I don't like the refresh button :) [09:08] the orange and green arrow thing [09:08] yeah...some of it is a little weird [09:08] yeah... === gnomefreak hasnt seen oxygen icons yet but those everaldo ones are sweet [09:08] I don't like the new crystal's home button eitehr [09:08] that was the other one [09:09] I do love the "globe"-type icons... although they don't look like globes and sort of lose the icon metaphor [09:09] Hobbsee: kde-icons-crystal [09:09] it seems the old ones are a pacakge, should I just update that package? [09:09] actually, those say something about being the "Connective Icon Theme" for the ones in our repo already [09:09] nixternal: well, they are different themes [09:09] ya they are [09:09] i'd probably do a kde-icons-crystal-project === nixternal gest to work [09:10] exactly :) [09:10] :) [09:10] ok nixternal, gest back to work! :) [09:10] holy smokes, 21mb dl [09:10] heh [09:10] gest ya man [09:10] are we expecting a 3.5.8 release for gutsy? [09:10] *maybe* [09:11] maaaaaaaaybe :) [09:11] hehe [09:11] they say it will be release in Sept I think, or maybe Oct...I do remember it is quite close to release time [09:11] erk. [09:11] I doubt they'd release October... [09:11] nixternal: thats kde4 no? [09:11] 3.5.8 [09:11] although I also doubt they'd release kde4 in october :) [09:12] Jucato: they will [09:12] we'll see :) [09:12] 3.5.8 would be useless if it released same time as 4 [09:12] we've had our first schedule "adjustment"... === besonen_mobile_ [n=besonen_@71-220-233-253.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === fritsch [i=dhkZa75L@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:28] xerosis: yes...we need to squish that bug [09:28] the .kde being owned by root === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p5495504F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:50] Hobbsee: if this icon set doesn't come with a license file, should I create a patch that will create the license file? [09:50] nixternal: it's lgpl. [09:50] gpl [09:50] lgpl was what i read. i'm not sure === nixternal looks agin [09:50] http://everaldo.com/crystal/?action=license [09:51] yup [09:51] so what does that mean then? it doesn't need the file? [09:51] i'd probably put it in, and say [09:51] "this comes from

" [09:52] should I create a patch for it, or should I just go ahead and create the LICENSE file in the root directory? or do I just put it in the debian/ directory and add it to the docs file? [09:53] not sure. not sure [09:53] hrmm [09:53] ask in #ubuntu-devel === danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:11] Riddell: http://idea.opensuse.org/content/ideas/integrate-kdm-with-kwallet [10:11] Riddell: looks interesting? [10:14] moin btw! [10:19] when Hobbsee comes back around (LongPointyStick), know that I have contacted the artist of Crystal asking if he can incorporate the license file, w/o it, we are dead in the water. So by the time I wake up, hopefully I will have some good feedback [10:19] g'nite === hunger_t [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Prezu_ [i=patryk@dug.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger_t is now known as hunger === fabo [n=Fathi@fon38-2-82-225-46-230.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === robotgeek [n=robotgee@c-68-62-216-83.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jannex [n=jokalli2@persikka.hut.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:55] nixternal: "gdebi-kde" is more consistent, as "gdebi" is the name of the command line tool and "gdebi-gtk" of the Ubuntu one === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel === meven [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-73-116.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:18] nixternal: also, I dislike prefixing stuff with kde- or k- [12:19] mhb: suffix is the new prefix ;) [12:19] viviersf: pong (sorry, didn't notice) [12:19] nixternal: yeah, for me :o) [12:20] nixternal: I have a bad experiene with prefixes [12:20] Riddell: is root not using the user's theme a real bug? === Jucato notes that mhb should probably have directed the last 2 lines to xerosis [12:21] nixternal: I have known "pyuic" for weeks but J.R. had to tell me there's a "kdepyuic" that does the task better for KDE === xerosis is nixternal at the weekends [12:22] Jucato: eh? [12:22] nvm :) [12:22] Jucato: and you're who, Hobbsee? :o) === rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@highway.mvi.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:24] danimo: I don't get that, what's it for? [12:25] xerosis: it's a wishlist bug [12:25] nixternal: everaldo isn't one to follow licencing needs too strongly === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:28] Riddell: if I understand correctly, that opensuse idea danimo sent a link to is about trying to use logon password for authenticating to kwallet [12:28] mhb: are you guys still working on the grubconf app? === mhb notes that Jucato should probably have directed the last line to xerosis [12:29] :/ === Jucato would have given a link to http://qt-apps.org/content/show.php/QGRUBEditor?content=60391 but.. [12:30] Jucato: so yes, we are [12:30] Jucato: but by "we" I mean xerosis [12:31] ok... not really sure who were involved anyway, all I know was you, abattoir_, and seele... anyway... nvm... [12:31] Jucato: it's me and xerosis now, basically [12:31] mhb: oh, that would make more sense. I was thinking it used kwallet authentication to log in === Jucato reads the link... [12:33] danimo: is the English edition of your book still set to come out next month? === glatzor [n=renate@host-82-135-29-2.customer.m-online.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:34] Jucato: it's a nice app. Except for one tiny bit - the author didn't bother to check if somebody worked on such app before [12:35] mhb: maybe. it's not a KDE app anyway. just stumbled on it a while ago. I thought you guys would be interested in seeing other implementations [12:35] Jucato: nah, we have the best :o) [12:35] Jucato: just kidding, but I'm guessing we're the only one with a backend and a frontend === rraphink [i=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Life] === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:46] jonasp: yepp [12:46] args [12:46] he left === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:58] Riddell: back, sorry. I have the CD, but, what are the non-destructive tests I should do? === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:59] jonasp: Riddell: it basically allows to unlock the users wallet from KDE [12:59] err [12:59] Riddell: it basically allows to unlock the users wallet from KDM [12:59] danimo: but why have it locked at all? [01:00] ryanakca: check CD, and boot live system [01:00] Riddell: because (a) kwallet suggests locking by password and (b) to avoid that anyone who can read the data on disc can easily read all passwords in the wallet [01:00] Riddell: don't you ever use password protected wallets? [01:01] danimo: sure, all the time [01:01] danimo: will they merge that feature with upstream? [01:01] although I set the password not to time out so it's only once per session [01:02] Riddell: still, what for? [01:02] Riddell: ok [01:02] Riddell: usually I lock in, wander away for a few mins, and see my startup is incomplete because e.g. knetworkmanager needs to unlock the wallet [01:02] mhb: not for 3.5, since 3.5 branch is currently closed [01:03] mhb: it's a definate good thing for KDE 4 though [01:04] Riddell: I found the cause of bug #119969. Both solutions I can think of will be considerably tricky. [01:04] Launchpad bug 119969 in adept "Adept Installer review changes screen has a useless Details button." [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119969 [01:05] Riddell: I actually think that implementing the details view will be simpler, unless the QPushButton has a hide method. [01:05] And even then just removing the button would be tricky. [01:06] manchicken: every QWidget had a hide method, doesn't it? [01:06] manchicken: all widgets have a hide method === manchicken didn't know that. [01:06] I never had use for that before :) [01:06] "Should be pretty simple." never say that about a bug :) [01:06] Yeah. [01:07] I'm going to edit that before anybody else sees how foolish it was :) [01:07] You weren't supposed to see that :) [01:08] Oooh, no such luck. No edit button. [01:08] Oh well. [01:08] I'll put my findings in the bug with much humility then. [01:09] Riddell: I'll be back in a couple hours and I'll tell you anything I find wrong... I need to go to school and pick up my exams :) [01:09] mhb: have you heard if/when grub2 is going to be used? [01:09] xerosis: just gossip [01:09] mhb: i read something in the gutsy forum about a grub2 problem [01:10] that would make grub-config a bit useless [01:10] why so? [01:10] isn't the format of the configuration changing completely? [01:10] not sure, not looked for a while [01:11] oh yeah, it has it's own GUI [01:11] y [01:11] xerosis: 0.97-20ubuntu7 [01:11] xerosis: that's the current version I have in gutsy [01:11] i didn't think there were any plans but the thread just got me curious === manchicken tries to fix the bug by changing the installer to use the adept::Browser class instead of adept::View [01:13] xerosis: there's https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GrubTwo [01:13] xerosis: but it has not been edited for a while [01:14] mhb: the blueprint was deferred from feisty but it hasn't been accepted for gutsy... [01:14] well if it doesn't get into gutsy, an gutsy+1 is indeed a LTS, at least grub-config willhave a good run :) [01:15] also, it needs to be ported to KDE4 pretty soon... [01:15] will try and get that done after we upload to KDE svn [01:20] I'm wondering if I've got a unicode problem. [01:21] I keep getting like \342\200\230variable\342\200\230 issues. Err, or are those color codes and Emacs is just munging them? [01:23] is kubuntu gutsy stable ish yet? [01:24] meh sod it, I'll upgrade anyways [01:24] mhb: how's the madwifi svn holding up? === lucky_lucas [n=lucas@ws102-91.unine.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:29] Mez: Very stablish. It gave me my suspend and resume back. [01:29] xerosis: I'm currently on wired net, so I don't know :o) [01:29] o_O lol === Mez growls at kdesu [01:29] mhb: bah, kop-out [01:31] Mez: The only problem I'm seeing is that I think the version of emacs in gutsy may be having some unicode issues on its terminal-type modes. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:32] Mez: And the klash kills my X server... but we suspect that that's an OpenGL issue... [01:32] klash ? [01:32] I dont use emacs [01:33] Well you should ;) [01:33] klash is the KPart for gnash... the Free Software flash player. === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-030-027.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:35] Sweet. I think switching adept_installer out to use the adept::Browser instead of adept::View for its preview widget may pay off. [01:35] is libqt4 in gutsy good enough for KDE4 to build? [01:35] If it doesn't, I can always just use the browser in the background and put the child class of view in there :) === jjesse [n=jjesse@adsl-69-209-100-200.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:35] mhb: I've never had such luck, but Riddell will probably say yes :) === Mez wonders whether adept will cope with an upgrade to gutsy [01:37] Hell yeah it will. Adept rules. [01:37] lol [01:37] morning [01:37] manchicken, it never has before ;) [01:38] Riddell: bug #119969 is about to be marked squished. [01:38] Launchpad bug 119969 in adept "Adept Installer review changes screen has a useless Details button." [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119969 [01:38] had to do manual upgrade && dist-upgrade && dselect-upgrade [01:38] Mez: Yes it has. You just weren't enlightened enough to see it ;0 [01:38] is it known issue that changelog view in apdept doesn't work when behind http proxy? [01:38] ;) [01:38] serzholino: Yeah. I was an idiot and didn't account for proxies when I put that in there. [01:38] manchicken, adept wont do a dselect-upgrade will it? [01:38] serzholino: Can you make sure that there's a bug for that in launchpad? [01:39] Mez: To be honest, I don't know that one. [01:39] ok, i'll search for that and if there isn't i'll create one === Arby [n=richard@shiny.york.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:39] Mez: I always manually dist-upgrade because I've **NEVER** had a successful upgrade happen in one command. [01:39] serzholino: Thanks. Please assign it to me... manchicken. [01:40] serzholino: I'll try and fix that one this cycle. [01:40] manchicken, hmm - lol [01:40] Riddell: Oh, and by the way... it was pretty simple ;) [01:40] nor me - hence the dselect-upgrade ;) [01:41] Mez: I always just sudo aptitude -f dist-upgrade [01:42] manchicken: sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade myself [01:42] watch this f**k up my sound settings tho [01:42] Mez: My sound still works :) [01:43] It worked out of the box. [01:43] manchicken, lol - probaly but i have everything wired through jack and someone decided to take jack support out of libasound-plugins so that it could be put in main [01:44] Mez: Are you using ALSA? [01:44] manchicken, yes - in weird strange ways [01:45] Mez: You may want to try /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart when you have sound troubles. [01:45] an app outputs to alsa, which pipes it to jack, which pipes it to alsa which pipes it to the sound card [01:45] WTF... alsa-utils doesn't seem to be in my /etc/rc2.d.... [01:45] this is why i have issues [01:45] or in amaroks case [01:46] amarok -> xine -> alsa -> jack -> alsa -> sound card [01:46] Problem solved on that one. [01:46] i've pinned my version of libasound2-plugins though [01:47] manchicken, i have a strange strange sound setup ;) [01:48] Mez: So what you're saying is that it's all your fault. :) [01:48] manchicken, nope, dholbach's fault for cutting out important code ;) === sahin_h [n=ezaz@dsl5400DB04.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:51] heh [02:24] Riddell: The patch is on bug #119969 [02:24] Launchpad bug 119969 in adept "Adept Installer review changes screen has a useless Details button." [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119969 [02:24] nixternal: You would probably need to repack the orig.tar.gz to add the license file. Mithrandir made me do that once (it was on my first package ever) when upstream didn't have a license file. [02:26] it's a bit dodgy adding a licence file yourself [02:27] I suppose that depends. If it's just straight GPL, then what's the difference in who includes the copy of the GPL? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:27] But I would think you need to be careful to make sure you're certain you've got the right one. [02:27] Hobbsee!!! Thanks for cleaning up those nasty buggies for me. [02:28] I'm still not quite sure how they got assigned to me :) === Hobbsee waves [02:29] manchicken: no problem :) [02:29] manchicken: you know that you can set statuses and whatnot? [02:29] as to why you got bugmial over them? [02:29] you're a contact of adept on LP i expect [02:30] Hobbsee: Yeah, I just wanted someone to double-check. [02:30] I can't change the priority, and that's about it. [02:30] No, two of those issues were actually assigned to me. [02:30] The debconf and the wishlist one were both assigned to me. [02:30] heh [02:31] manchicken: ahh. i thought you could change the importance [02:31] The wishlist one I think is actually fixed with Riddell's software-properties port. [02:31] manchicken: or are you not in QA? [02:31] Naw, I can't change importance. [02:31] Nope, I'm not in QA. [02:31] for some reason i thought team contacts could as well. [02:31] to put it into line with the rest of the changes [02:32] Riddell: In the case I did it, the program was clearly GPL, Mithrandir just wanted the full text in the package somewhere. It was a small Perl app and the GPL may have been longer than that application. [02:38] Hobbsee: Could you change bug #119089 to medium priority for me? I have seen several complaints about that one. [02:38] Launchpad bug 119089 in adept "Unable to fetch the Developer Changelog" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119089 [02:38] I would think that it's a pretty big issue as there is NO way to get developer changelog to respect proxies. [02:39] done === ScottK will do it if Hobbsee hasn't. === ScottK won't then. [02:39] :) [02:39]