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jhutchinssmbpasswd does both.12:16
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jhutchinsIt's a switch, check the man page.12:16
aaroncampbellyeah, I have that.  smbpasswd is a file as well as a utility12:16
kubuntianok, i just read that a smb user MUST have a corresponding UNIX user12:16
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jhutchinsIt's also possible to tell samba to create accounts on the fly - I don't remember the details of that, I didn't like how it worked for me.12:17
Schuenemannis it possible to edit konqueror's preview for specific file types?12:17
jhutchinsMy home network has an NT Domain Controller where all the accounts reside.12:17
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jhutchinsThat's probably what allows creation on the fly.12:17
aaroncampbellEven with wins support = yes ...I restart samba, it seems to work, but I can only access the share from a windows box using the IP12:18
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aaroncampbell\\192.168.2.1 works ... \\aaron does not12:19
aaroncampbellhostname of the system is aaron12:19
jhutchinsaaroncampbell: Tell the windows box that the samba box is the domain controller and wins server.  Make sure the samba box wins the browser war.12:19
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jhutchinshttp://tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO.html12:20
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jhutchinshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba12:21
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aaroncampbellEUREKA!  That was it!12:21
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aaroncampbellI disobeyed the classic "don't assume" rule12:22
brendan_hi, why does ubuntu use dash instead of bash?12:22
aaroncampbellSince nothing had been touched on the windows systems, I assumed they were still set up fine.  Not true12:22
jhutchinshttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server12:22
aaroncampbellWhen I had netowrk problems on the linux system, the WINS server was no longer valid, so Windows decided to remove it from the list12:22
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aaroncampbellI added it back, and it works fine12:23
aaroncampbellThanks jhutchins12:23
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rohoflash worked fine, i haven't changed anything, it's still installed, but for some reason youtube doesn't think i have it.12:23
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rohoi tried changing the browser identity but that didn't do any good12:23
jhutchinsIt's a heck of struggle getting through all the docs for samba.  I don't remember what it takes to get swat working - it's been disabled in favor of the ubuntu controls - but it's an easier way to configure stuff.12:24
kubuntianaaroncampbell: what?12:24
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kubuntianwhat did you do?12:24
ReK_can anyone help with setting up my soundcard? for some reason, it worked fine in 6.10, but kmix cant detect the mixer in 7.0412:24
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aaroncampbellI added the IP address of the linux box to the top of the list of WINS servers on the windows box12:24
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rohoso why would flash in konqueror work yesterday but not work today? i haven't changed anything.12:27
rohoit works in firefox12:27
jhutchinsroho: Re-scan for plugins.12:27
rohoi just did that12:28
rohodo i need to close the browser and restart after that?12:28
kubuntianaaroncampbell: :|12:28
jhutchinsShouldn't, but it's worth a try.12:28
kubuntianwhat?12:28
rohowell, it didn't do any good12:28
rohoand flash is listed in the plugins list, too12:29
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beldayvenHi12:29
beldayvenAnyone on here ever tried using MoinMoin-Desktop edition on kubuntu?12:30
aaroncampbellkubuntian: I don't know that you are having the same problem as me.  From one of your windows computers, click start, run, \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the IP of the linux box with the samba share.  If it works, let me know, and I know the solution to make \\hostname work as well12:30
rohojhutchins: anything else i might be missing?12:30
Schuenemannis it possible to edit konqueror's preview for specific file types?12:31
kubuntian\\10.0.0.10 does not work12:31
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rohothere's gotta be something i can do12:33
rohoi haven't changed konqueror at all12:33
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aaroncampbellkubuntian: then you still need to get samba set up.  I did that months ago, and just recently had a WINS problem (hostname not resolving to IP)12:34
aaroncampbellI'm sorry, I can't help much with the samba setup12:35
kubuntianok12:35
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a-865what does KDE use that corresponds to gnome-volume manager? I have bug 47516 , but no gnome. :-p12:40
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vzduchKwikDisk?12:43
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a-865no idea, I'm just trying to kill whatever is ejecting the music CD https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-volume-manager/+bug/4751612:46
a-865dunno how to figure out what that is12:46
ReK_anyone know what cfg file the startup fsck command is in?12:47
ReK_fstab?12:47
vzduchno12:47
a-865 /etc/fstab next to last character each line12:47
vzduchah right12:48
ReK_thanks12:48
vzduchgood night people :912:48
ReK_now, any idea why my soundcard worked fine in edgy but kmix cant etect the mixer in feisty?12:48
ReK_detect*12:48
a-865 /etc/fstab next to last integer each line12:48
ReK_im on my windows boot now cause i havent installed madwifi yet, but i have a lspci dump for the soundcard12:49
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ReK_anyone?12:50
ReK_sound is kinda vital :/12:50
ReK_and i have no idea where to start with troubleshooting it12:51
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eagles0513875!aptfix12:52
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:52
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ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:53
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ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:54
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eagles0513875!aptfix12:55
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:55
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rohook, flash works everywhere BUT youtube, in konqueror.  and trying to fool it with a different id doesn't work either12:59
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rohobut it works fine in youtube's test video01:01
rohoi guess no one else has had this problem01:02
Schuenemannwhy are you using konqueror?01:02
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roholots of reasons01:03
rohoi like it01:03
rohothe answer to the problem is NOT "use another browser"01:03
rohothis is kde channel after all01:04
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ReK_opera ftw01:04
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sismashow to install ati-driver-installer-8.38.6-x86.x86_64.run ?01:04
MinatakuOpera and Konq FTL01:04
rohoMinataku: that's not helpful.01:04
ReK_lemme guess, you like ff?01:04
rohoif you're not going to help, then you're not helping01:04
MinatakuOpera is nonfree and Konq is just another half-baked addition to the pile for no real reason01:05
sismashow to install ati-driver-installer-8.38.6-x86.x86_64.run ?01:05
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MinatakuKDE tries to reimplement existing excellent solutions01:05
Schuenemannroho, actually this is kubuntu channel :P01:05
rohoMinataku: yeah, so take that NOT HELPFUL talk to a place that's not a support channel01:05
rohoSchuenemann: so what's the K for?01:05
Minataku!attitude | roho01:05
uboturoho: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:05
rohoMinataku: i ask for help and you mock my request.  you need the attitude adjustment, not me01:06
rohoperhaps you should read your link again01:06
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gnomefreakroho: and Minataku please stop the bickering01:06
ReK_opera may not be gpl/non-free, but its a ton better than ff even so, and just because it's non-free doesn't mean they're automagically a big bad evil corporation. theyre actually pretty awesome01:06
sismashow to install ati-driver-installer-8.38.6-x86.x86_64.run ??? :(01:06
Schuenemannfirefox (fx, not "ff") is way better than opera01:06
Minataku!ati01:07
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:07
ReK_lol01:07
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MinatakuSchuenemann: Nice to meet another true fan :D01:07
MinatakuSomeone read the FAQ :301:07
MinatakuReK_: There's a superior AND open source solution available. Closed source is not an option in such an instance.01:08
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ulumuluhi01:08
MinatakuHello01:08
ReK_ff is not superior to opera, thats my whole point01:08
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ulumuluhm may i can ask a question01:09
ReK_if it were, i would be just as much of a fanboi of it as you01:09
Schuenemannwhich FAQ? I see instructions for graphic cards set up (which didn't help me when I needed it)01:09
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Schuenemannno? does opera have tons of extensions?01:09
Schuenemann!ask | ulumulu01:09
ubotuulumulu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:09
Schuenemann:-)01:09
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ulumululook i got a speedlink headset and iam not able to instal the driver01:09
ReK_the one, single thing that ff has over it, and it isnt even fully necessary as userjs is native and you dont need to install greasemonkey01:09
ReK_widgets are bad, ill admit01:10
Schuenemannso opera is better because fx needs an extension to be superior to it in ALL aspects01:10
ulumului selected it on alsa as a standard device but it wont accpept it01:10
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Minatakuulumulu: Do you have a headset port?01:10
ReK_but full extensions are on the todo list01:10
MinatakuHeadsets are different01:10
MinatakuThey're a speaker/mic mix01:10
ReK_and no, because greasemonkey makes it on par with it in one aspect. in all others it still pales in comparson01:11
Schuenemanndude, opera doesn't have 10% of firefox's extensions01:11
MinatakuNor 1% of it's support base01:11
ulumuluehm its usb with in inbuilt sounddevice01:11
Schuenemannnot 0,5% of it's freeness :p01:12
ReK_again, extensions arent needed01:12
MinatakuAnd for good reason, who aside from the devs can actively suppor something that nobody buy they know anything about01:12
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Schuenemannaren't they? I have over 30 installed01:12
ReK_lets talk about other features, like resource usage (lol ff2)01:12
MinatakuI have about 1001:12
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MinatakuFirefox 2 is excellent01:12
Schuenemannhttp://del.icio.us/Schuenemann/Extensions01:12
MinatakuThey've really cleaned it up01:12
MinatakuEspecially with 2.0.0.401:12
MinatakuI can run it for weeks without having to restart it01:13
MinatakuWhich isn't even a hassle anyway01:13
MinatakuNever was01:13
SchuenemannI noticed 2.0.0.4 is better than 2.0.0201:13
ulumuluit seems the drivers arent built for linux yet01:13
ReK_i was running 15+ tabs, including some with flash, with less than half of the mem usage than 2 tabs in ff01:13
MinatakuAt least not with the "Restart Firefox" extension, which does it in one click01:13
ulumuluso is it possible to instal it anyway?01:13
Minatakuulumulu: You can't install a Windows driver into a Linux kernel01:13
ReK_well, it depends01:14
ReK_ndiswrapper?01:14
MinatakuWith the exception of ndiswrapper01:14
ReK_:P01:14
ulumuluwell no hmm hard to explain01:14
MinatakuWhich isn't doing it either01:14
ReK_true01:14
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ulumului instaled the usb driver properly but the device is not working01:15
MinatakuEither way, the point is that the KDE team needs to focus on improving the DE as a whole, and scrap it's idiotic efforts at reimplementing existing solutions01:15
MinatakuThere is no need for Konqueror or KOffice01:15
ReK_true01:15
ReK_konq as a file browser works nicely. koffice is pointless in the face of OOo01:15
MinatakuThey're trying to imitate what Microsoft does01:15
Daisuke_IdoReK_: not *entirely*01:15
ReK_and konq as a browser is pointless also, whether you use ff or opera01:16
MinatakuAnd we all know how well their plan works01:16
ReK_how so?01:16
SchuenemannI've heard konqueror was the best browser for w3c support01:16
Daisuke_Idowith OOo being gtk+, some purists want a QT office suite01:16
ReK_problem is, the rest of the internet doesnt give two shits about w3c anymore01:16
Schuenemannbut it doesn't support a text-transform attribute01:16
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Daisuke_Idoso it has its place.  but it doesn't work that well.01:16
MinatakuIt's still a pointless reimplementation, Daisuke_Ido01:16
SchuenemannReK_, anymore? they didn't care before. That is changing (slowly, but it is)01:16
MinatakuAnd the fact that Kubuntu plans to replace OOo with KOffice is a huge blunder01:16
Daisuke_Idodefinitely01:17
Schuenemannthanks to the stupid IE and tools like dreamweaver01:17
ReK_im all for w3c meaning something again, but at the moment, especially with this idiotic 'web 2.0' buzzword flying about, no one cares, and i cant see it changing drastically any time soon01:17
SchuenemannI see it changing. Yesterday, we had only IE. Today we have some other browsers01:17
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Daisuke_Idoi had ff yesterday...01:18
MinatakuActually, in the past, it was only Mosaic01:18
ReK_replacing IE with other browsers has nothing to do with the w3c...01:18
Schuenemannyes, I mean past netscape vs IE01:18
Daisuke_IdoReK_: the hell it doesn't.01:18
Schuenemannof course it does01:18
ReK_directly i mean01:18
MinatakuWhich is still a historical point of interest reflected in IE's UA01:18
Daisuke_Idodirectly.01:18
MinatakuMozilla/4.001:18
sayersHow do I run K3b with root privlages?01:18
Daisuke_Idosayers: you don't need to.01:18
SchuenemannIE and it's crappy implementation made web developers "forget" entirely about what w3c is01:18
MinatakuMozilla, I believe, being the original codename for Netscape01:19
Daisuke_Idoalternative browsers are generally striving to be w3c compliant01:19
Schuenemannsayers, kdesu k3b01:19
sayersDaisuke_Ido:  cdrecord will be run without root  privileges It is highly recommended to configure cdrecord to run with root privileges. Only then cdrecord runs with high priority which increases the overall stability of the burning process. Apart from that it allows changing the size of the used burning buffer. A lot of user problems could be solved this way. This is also true when using SuSE's resmg01:19
MinatakuA name that still lives on to this day in UAs, the Mozilla internet suite and the Mozilla Foundation01:19
Minataku!sudo | sayers01:19
ubotusayers: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:19
ReK_so one office changing off of IE, while applaudable, isnt going to give the w3c any more foothold. we'd need to knock IE down to at LEAST under the 50% usage, as opposed to the what, 0% it has now?01:19
Daisuke_Idothat doesn't mean you have to run k3b as root.01:19
sayersYes I know about sudo...01:20
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Daisuke_Idocdrecord != k3b01:20
MinatakuOh, k3b01:20
MinatakuBah01:20
sayersDaisuke_Ido: I am on gusty...01:20
MinatakuI use cdrecord straight from the CLI01:20
Daisuke_Idosayers: so?01:20
MinatakuUsing a GUI to make/burn an image just slows things down01:20
Daisuke_Idok3b is still k3b01:20
SchuenemannReK_, dude, today web developers (still) made some fishy page full of tables, non-standardized and say "IE is recommended"01:20
sayersDaisuke_Ido: So in Feisty that messege doesnt display. But still happens?01:21
ReK_yes, i know, i worked with one last year01:21
MinatakuSchuenemann: That is receeding01:21
Daisuke_Idouse the "configure" thing in k3b01:21
ReK_i forced him to learn divs01:21
MinatakuAlong with IE's share01:21
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SchuenemannReK_, great01:21
MinatakuIt's actually a lot less than reported, BTW01:21
MinatakuGiven the fact that some sites try to force IE via UA detection01:21
Schuenemannif IE has, say, 50%, users will say: NO, I don't want to install this trash. I want to use my own browser. I access many websites with this browser, why can't I access yours too?01:22
Schuenemannoh, UA == user agent? I thought it was user agreement heh01:22
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Minataku:P01:22
Daisuke_IdoMinataku: i'm happy, my bank actually supports firefox and linux01:22
Daisuke_Idoverizon, however, does not.01:22
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: That's good01:22
SchuenemannI access my bank using firefox and linux too01:22
Schuenemannbut not my university website01:23
Daisuke_Idoand i hate them with a passion01:23
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: Yeah, my cellphone is Verizon, but not for long01:23
MinatakuSwitching to AT&T01:23
ReK_then the IE idiots can go away and complain at MS to make their shitter browser w3c compliant. at 50%, we'll still have half of the interwebs on our side, which should be survivable. 20% isnt01:23
Schuenemannluckily I don't access it too muchj01:23
MinatakuBecause Verizon uses frickin' CDMA01:23
Daisuke_Idoyou're getting an iphone, don't lie :)01:23
MinatakuWhile the rest of the civilized...01:23
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: Run01:23
Daisuke_Ido:P01:23
ReK_my uni site supports ie and ff, not opera, but i ust identify as ff01:23
MinatakuBecause if you're not outta my sight in 60 seconds I'ma kick your ass01:23
SchuenemannReK_, you're right, but isn't it changing :-) ?01:24
Daisuke_Idoi use centennial, which is nice, no phone lockdown01:24
Schuenemannwhen it was at 100%, "no one" knew what was w3c01:24
ReK_its changing, but not to FOSS, safari is where most of the ie users are going01:24
Daisuke_Idothe eff?01:24
MinatakuI'd switch back to Windows before I used any modern Apple piece of sh*t01:24
Daisuke_Idoare you brain damaged?01:24
BluesKajsafari = boring01:24
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: Apple is more evil than Microsoft01:24
sayersDaisuke_Ido: Where is the setting01:24
Daisuke_Idono one's switching to safari on windows.01:25
Schuenemannsafari? well, that might depend on the region. I have never seen a Mac in my life, so I don't know about anyone going to safari01:25
BluesKajanarchy!01:25
Daisuke_Idosayers: it should be right there where that message showed up.01:25
ReK_i know it is, but its got more market share than any single FOSS browser other than ff01:25
Schuenemann!foss01:25
ubotufreedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing01:25
Schuenemannwhat is that foss?01:25
MinatakuThat's because of pretentious Mac users01:25
ReK_those who stay on windows get ff, but of those who move off of windows, the lion's share go to mac01:25
ReK_Free/Open-Source Software01:25
Daisuke_IdoReK_: maybe because ff is about the only good (graphical) foss browser?01:25
sismaswher is Restricted Drivers Manager ?01:25
SchuenemannI see everybody going from IE to firefox; and some to opera01:25
MinatakuRight, to Mac which is far, far worse01:25
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Schuenemannand people don't know what is FOSS too :-)01:26
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ReK_i support apple right now purely because of vmware01:26
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MinatakuReK_: You shouldn't support Apple at all01:26
Daisuke_Idomost apple users i know use firefox because they can't stand safari.01:26
sayersDaisuke_Ido: No..?01:26
ReK_my friend with a macbook uses ff opera and safari, says it depends on his mood...01:26
Daisuke_Idoand that's an easy dozen, just around here01:26
MinatakuAt least Microsoft doesn't lock you into ugly, overpriced, underpowered hardware as well as shoddy, lousy software01:26
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SchuenemannReK_, where do you live?01:27
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ReK_vancouver01:27
sayersMinataku: not as much atleast ;p01:27
hasanhow can i create a shared folder for samba?01:27
BluesKaj i assume that Ff can browse anywhere in Linux where IE can in windows or 99% of sites including banks and other institutions including universities01:27
Daisuke_IdoMinataku: that's your opinion, and you're welcome to it :P  some people like apple software AND hardware, and they're more than welcome to that opinion01:27
Schuenemannin Brazil, no one has a mac01:27
MinatakuAnd PCs are still fully customizable and upgradeable01:27
Schuenemannhence no one uses safari01:27
hasani have created a folder named Shared in my home directory01:27
MinatakuDaisuke_Ido: Tell me when I can custom build a Mac01:27
MinatakuAnd maybe I'll change my views01:27
hasanbut when i type smb:/192.168.1.2/Shared in konqueror it gives an error01:28
Daisuke_Idoi didn't say to change your views, i said not to force them on others :)01:28
MinatakuI feel very safe in saying that because I know for a fact THEY'LL NEVER LET IT HAPPEN01:28
MinatakuI'm not forcing anything on anyone01:28
Daisuke_Idobecause maybe they like it01:28
rohoi'm with Minataku on that one.01:28
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rohoit probably voids the warranty to open one up, too01:28
Daisuke_Idoroho: nope, it doesn't.01:28
MinatakuWhy don't you learn the damn difference between voicing the reason for my opinion and trying to force it on people01:28
Daisuke_Ido[19:27]  <Minataku> ReK_: You shouldn't support Apple at all01:29
Daisuke_Idothat sounds like forcing to me.01:29
MinatakuNote "shouldn't"01:29
Schuenemannhehehe01:29
MinatakuContraction of "should not"01:29
Minataku"Should" usually indicating a suggestion01:29
ReK_i dont support apple myself, but i do like vmware, because it should be prtable to linux01:29
Daisuke_Idoyes, telling people that they should not do something YOU disapprove of is considered pushing, maybe not FORCING, but pushing your beliefs on someone01:29
rohoforcing is "YOU WILL"01:29
MinatakuA suggestion being advice one wishes another to take under consideration01:29
SchuenemannYOU MUST OR YOU'LL DIE01:30
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sismashow to install ati video driver ?01:30
MinatakuReK_: VMWare DOES run on Linux01:30
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Minataku!ati | sismas01:30
ubotusismas: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:30
Schuenemannhonestly, I think if someone isn't using IE, he's right01:30
XVampireXHi, I know it's not related to just kubuntu01:30
XVampireXbut how do I choose a specific alsa driver to load01:30
XVampireXI don't want the built-in sound card01:31
XVampireXI want the PCI soundcard that I installed01:31
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XVampireX!alsa01:31
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP301:31
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MinatakuBoth should work at once01:32
MinatakuJust configure your individual apps to use the PCI one01:32
Tenerifedavei have a problem installing proftpd...01:32
BluesKajXVampireX, you prolly should go into your BIOS and turn off the soundcard in peripherlas that you don't want and enable the PCI card01:32
MinatakuIn sounds apps under drivers there should be an option to configure ALSA settings01:32
sayersDaisuke_Ido: k3bsetup is the command01:32
Tenerifedavehere is the log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27531/01:32
Tenerifedaveanyone can help will be much appreciated01:32
BluesKajerr peripherals01:33
XVampireXBluesKaj: Oh, good idea :D01:33
XVampireXand alsa won't load it?01:33
MinatakuTenerife... isn't that where one of the worst airplane disasters occured?01:33
Tenerifedaveyep01:33
MinatakuI saw a show about it on Discovery Times01:33
Daisuke_Idothere ya go :)01:33
Minatakulol01:33
Tenerifedave2 airliners collided01:33
MinatakuOn the runway, yeah01:33
BluesKajXVampireX, that's what i had to do on my other old pc01:33
Tenerifedaveyeah thats the one01:33
MinatakuLike a car accident, only far, far deadlier01:34
MinatakuXP01:34
Tenerifedavelmao just a bit01:34
BluesKajlmao ? ...what's funny about hundreds of ppl dying01:35
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Tenerifedavethats not funny at all01:35
ReK_wheres the clown?01:35
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coreymon77its not the people dying thats funny01:35
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coreymon77its just the crashes are usually funny to watch01:36
MinatakuCar crashes are exciting01:36
MinatakuThat's why I love cop shows01:36
MinatakuBoth real (ala COPS) and fake (ala CHiPs) :D01:36
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MinatakuCHiPs, BTW, ftfw01:36
Tenerifedavelol01:36
Minataku:301:36
Tenerifedaveany1 have any idea about my problem?01:37
Tenerifedavehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27531/01:37
Tenerifedavetrying to set up proftpd on my box01:38
persephonehello..I'm looking for some help on VMware01:38
Minataku!vmware01:38
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers01:38
BluesKajsome freiends died in the tenerife disaster , so i guess I'm a bit sensitive about it...they were on the Pan Am flight01:39
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MinatakuBluesKaj: Holy crap01:39
Tenerifedaveoh right01:39
BluesKaj<--old01:39
MinatakuBluesKaj: He was laughing at my not-really-a-joke-comment [19:32:41]  Minataku Like a car accident, only far, far deadlier01:39
Tenerifedavehave you seen the memorial "stairs" they have put up here01:39
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BluesKajok , that's cool01:39
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MinatakuTenerifedave: I haven't, no01:40
MinatakuTenerifedave: Your /etc/hosts is misconfigured, I think01:40
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Tenerifedavehmmm ok01:40
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MinatakuYou need to specify an IP for "computer"01:40
Tenerifedaveahhh01:40
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MinatakuLemme get what's in mine for ya01:40
persephoneI've downloaded the VMware evaluation from their site and don't know hoiw to INSTALL it..I've tried APT01:41
Minataku127.0.0.1       Piyoko.EdNet Piyoko localhost01:41
kubuntianhello everybody, i am trying to share a printer with a windows machine using the functionalities offered by CUPS01:41
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Daisuke_Idowell apt ain't gonna help if you downloaded it from their site01:41
MinatakuSo yours should be "127.0.0.1 computer computer localhost"01:41
Daisuke_Idois it a tarball?01:41
persephoneI've got it EXPANDED in a folder01:41
XVampireXBluesKaj: Hi?01:41
Daisuke_Idogzipped tarball?  bzip2?01:41
persephoneyes Tar01:41
Tenerifedaveyep thats it Minataku01:41
MinatakuTenerifedave: Toss that in there and tell me if it works01:41
Daisuke_Idookay, go into that folder01:41
sayersWhere is the CDRECORD module located so I can just chmod 4711 it01:41
kubuntiani followed the guide that you can find at the page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP01:41
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Daisuke_Idopersephone: are you doing this from a console?01:42
persephoneOK hold on while I bring it up01:42
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Tenerifedavei have in mine Minataku: 127.0.0.1 localhost, 127.0.1.1 computer.MSHOME01:42
kubuntianbut in windows, after spefying the address, windows asks me for a username/password.. i tried my linux machine passwords but it didn't work.. which one am i supposed to insert?01:42
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MinatakuTenerifedave: Hm01:43
persephoneOK got the folder open01:43
Daisuke_Idoin a terminal01:43
MinatakuInteresting01:43
illriginalHas anyone installed Photoshop 7.0 using Crossover?01:43
Daisuke_Idothere should be something with install in the name, maybe01:43
persephoneyes from Konquer01:44
Daisuke_Idono01:44
Daisuke_Idonot konqueror01:44
Daisuke_Idoa terminal01:44
Daisuke_Idokonsole01:44
persephonewhich terminal should I use?01:44
Daisuke_Idoeven xterm, i don't care01:44
Daisuke_Idothey all work just as well :)01:44
persephoneOK..which ever is easy :)01:45
Daisuke_Idoyou're using linux.  not everything is going to be easy :)01:45
persephoneI'm begining to find that out :)01:46
persephoneOK..I got terminal up01:46
kubuntianhello everybody, i am trying to share a printer with a windows machine using the functionalities offered by CUPS.  i followed the guide that you can find at the page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP but in windows, after specifying the printer address, windows asks me for a username/password.. i tried my linux machine passwords but it didn't work.. which one am i supposed to insert?01:46
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Daisuke_Idopersephone: where's the directory you expanded the tarball to?01:47
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Daisuke_Idosomething like: /home/yourusername/Desktop/something?01:47
Daisuke_Idoand i will be RIGHT back, phone01:47
MinatakuTenerifedave: Add "computer" to the end of that second line01:47
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Tenerifedaveok01:48
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Tenerifedaveso computer.MSHOME.computer?01:48
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persephoneit's HERE: /home/persephone/Desktop/ DX DOWNLOAD/VMware/vmware-distrib01:49
MinatakuNo01:49
MinatakuNo .01:49
Tenerifedaveok01:50
TenerifedaveMSHOMEcomputer? or a space?01:50
Tenerifedavesorry about this lol01:50
MinatakuYeah, space or tab01:50
MinatakuIt's okay01:50
Tenerifedaveok :)01:50
MinatakuBetter you asked than assumed XD01:50
Tenerifedavehehe01:50
persephoneso where should Imove this folder?01:50
Tenerifedavehmmm its giving me a IPv6 error...01:51
Tenerifedaveno address associated with hostname computer.MSHOME01:51
MinatakuWell01:52
MinatakuAt least it's a new one01:52
Minataku>.<01:52
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Tenerifedavelol01:52
Tenerifedavegetting somewhere01:52
MinatakuThat means we fixed the IPv4 error01:52
Tenerifedaveoooo01:52
Daisuke_Idocd /home/persephone/Desktop/DX\ Download/VMware/vmware-distrib01:52
MinatakuAs for the IPv6 error... I don't use IPv601:52
Daisuke_Idocopy and paste01:52
Tenerifedavei dont either01:52
Tenerifedavelol01:52
MinatakuSo I'm out of help >.<01:52
Daisuke_Idocd = change directory01:52
MinatakuXD01:52
MinatakuSorry X301:52
persephoneOK..hold01:52
Tenerifedavei dont use IPv4 :S lol01:53
Tenerifedaveonly*01:53
MinatakuSame01:53
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MinatakuBut I can disable IPv6 when I compile my kernels01:53
Tenerifedavehmmm what else did you have in your hosts file?01:53
MinatakuJust that line01:53
Tenerifedavedid you have some stuff about IPv6?01:53
Tenerifedaveahh right01:53
Tenerifedavei have stuff about IPv601:53
persephonesays I'm at /desktop$01:54
MinatakuAdd computer to the end of the one with "computer.MSHOME"01:54
MinatakuSame way as the last one you added to01:54
Daisuke_Idocd /home01:54
Tenerifedavecant i just delete all the IPv6 stuff?01:54
Daisuke_Idocd persephone01:54
MinatakuTenerifedave: No01:54
MinatakuThat'll break stuff01:54
Tenerifedaveoh ok lol01:55
Tenerifedavei shall not do that then01:55
persephoneat /home$01:55
Daisuke_Idols01:55
Daisuke_Idols = list files/directories01:56
Tenerifedavehmm right when i do "apt-get install proftpd" now it just says its the newest version and no errors01:56
persephonelists: persephon01:56
persephonepersephone01:56
Daisuke_Idocd to that01:56
Daisuke_Idocd persephone01:56
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Tenerifedavei think its sorted Minataku01:56
MinatakuTenerifedave: Then... you already have it01:56
MinatakuTenerifedave: Cool01:57
Daisuke_Idothen you should be able to cd Desktop01:57
Tenerifedaveim in on ftp://locahost01:57
Tenerifedave:D01:57
MinatakuSweet :301:57
Tenerifedavecheers for your help dude, that must have fixed it01:57
MinatakuEnjoy :D01:57
Daisuke_Idoremember, linux is case sensitive, Desktop isn't the same as desktop01:57
persephoneyes doing it..starting to get the hang :)01:57
Tenerifedavei shall :D01:57
Daisuke_Idoexcellent01:58
Daisuke_Idothere's another e in there somewhere, i'm too tired to correct it :)01:58
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persephoneOK done that01:58
nosrednaekimnope Daisuke_Ido thats the correct way to spell it!01:59
persephonetried cd DX DOWNLOAD..say no such directory01:59
Daisuke_Idopersephone: now you discover why spaces are a pain :)01:59
Daisuke_Idocd DX02:00
Daisuke_Idothen hit <tab>02:00
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persephoneyes..guess I'm too use to windows :(02:00
Daisuke_Idothat's where the \ came from when i typed out the whole path02:00
persephonethen I put in DOWNLOAD right? :)02:01
Daisuke_Idoafter you hit tab it should auto-complete it for you02:01
Daisuke_Idoor you can use cd DX\ DOWNLOAD02:01
persephoneit didn't auto..let me try again02:02
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persephonekeeps say no file02:03
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Daisuke_Idols02:03
persephoneI did..it shows there02:03
Daisuke_Idowait, you had a space in there.  i can't imagine it starting with a space, or even if it can...02:04
Daisuke_Idotry cd \<tab>02:04
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Daisuke_Idothis is a long shot that i have no idea whether it will work or not.02:04
persephoneoops..there is a space before the /02:04
persephonebefore DX02:05
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Daisuke_Idodid cd \<tab> complete it for you?02:05
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persephoneno..gives me another \02:07
persephonecan change the name of the folder now without spav=ces02:08
persephonecan change the name of the folder now without spaces02:08
Daisuke_Idoif you want, you can rename that folder from within konqueror, remove the space at the beginning02:09
persephoneOK..hold02:09
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persephoneOK changed it to downloads02:10
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Daisuke_Idoalrighty then, that will make this easier02:11
Daisuke_Idocd downloads02:11
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persephoneOK..got to VMware folder02:11
persephonels02:11
persephonedid a lisrt02:11
solid_liq!pingme02:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pingme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:11
Daisuke_Idoawesome02:11
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persephone:)02:12
Daisuke_Idois there a file with "install" in it?02:12
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persephoneI use to work with CLI when I had My AMIGA02:12
persephoneAmiga has a cli very semilier to UNIX02:12
Daisuke_Idoi miss the amiga02:12
persephoneme too..luv them..02:13
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persephoneI'm re setting mine up..it has a M68060 in it ..A120002:13
Daisuke_Idonice, all i ever owned was a 500 :\02:14
MinatakuI'll be getting some Amigas soon02:14
Minataku3 A1200s02:14
MinatakuAnd a CD3202:14
persephonecd32 was a under appreciated  device02:15
persephoneI also have Amiga Forever on Windows XP02:15
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persephonethere is a folder under VMware called vmware-distrib02:16
Daisuke_Idocd vmware-distrib02:16
Daisuke_Idothat's where you want to be02:16
persephoneok02:17
persephoneI'm there02:17
persephonethis is where the Tar was expanded to02:17
Daisuke_Idothat's good02:18
Daisuke_Idois there anything indicating an install or setup file in the directory listing?02:18
persephonethere is a folder called installer02:18
persephonealso a file called: vmware-install.pl02:19
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Daisuke_Idotry this:02:19
Daisuke_Idosh vmware-install.pl02:20
persephoneok02:20
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persephonegot a bunch of errors vmware-install.pl  8  not found02:22
persephonealso 13, 16, 18, 21 , 2702:23
persephone Syntax error: "{" unexpected (expecting "then")02:24
Daisuke_Idotry perl vmware-install.pl02:24
persephoneok02:24
Daisuke_Idoto be honest, this is kind of the blind leading the blind here02:24
persephonehaha I understand the problem02:24
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persephonegot THIS: This version of "VMware Workstation" is incompatible with this operating02:26
persephonesystem.  Please install the "i386" version of this program instead.02:26
Daisuke_Idoyou using the 64 bit version?02:27
Daisuke_Ido(of kubuntu)02:27
persephoneguess I should talk to VMware..I thought I downloaded the right version for my computer02:27
persephoneyes02:27
persephone64 bit02:27
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Daisuke_Idowait, it's asking for the i38602:27
persephoneI have a athlon X2 64 bit processor02:27
persephoneyes I 38602:28
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DragnslcrBut did you install the amd64 version of Kubuntu?02:28
Daisuke_Idoright, but if you're using the standard kubuntu release, it's 32 bit02:28
Daisuke_Idowhich means you'll need the i386 version of vmware02:28
Dragnslcr(I tried it for a couple months, and I just switched over to i386)02:28
persephoneIthink I have the 64 bit version of Kubuntu02:28
persephoneactually it was Ubuntu I add the Kubuntu-desktop02:29
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Daisuke_Idoat the console, type uname -r02:30
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persephone2.6.20-16-generic02:31
persephonehmmmm02:31
Daisuke_Idothat's no help then :(02:31
persephoneperhaps I should load Kubuntu from scartch02:31
rohowhat package is klash part of?02:31
Daisuke_Idopersephone: just get the other version from vmware's site :)02:33
persephoneIappreciate your help and don't mean to belittle it..but i THINK I should get help from VMware..they do want to SELL it :)02:33
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persephonethey emphasize they are will to help with the evaluation software02:34
Daisuke_Idoalso a valid route02:34
Daisuke_Idothey would probably be more helpful than i've been02:34
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BluesKajDragnslcr, there's an AMD 64 bit version of Kubuntu ?02:35
persephoneI want to get out from under WINDOZE forever..but I have some applications that only run on WINDOZE02:35
BluesKajhow can it be AMD specific?02:35
persephoneyou've been very helpful..at least we found out there is a problem02:35
BluesKajpersephone, which ones?02:36
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persephoneIthought I had the 64 bit version..don't know if it is AMD specific02:36
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persephoneit might even be a X2 problem02:37
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persephoneI luved the old term from my Amiga days of WINDOZE02:38
persephone:):)02:38
persephone:)02:38
persephone:D02:38
persephone:X02:38
persephone:x02:38
SlimGHow should a ktorrent regex pattern look like to work? .* doesn't work02:38
darkrift411..02:39
darkrift411i think02:39
Tenerifedaveanyone know the command to list your hard drives and where they are mounted in the shell?02:39
darkrift411been a long time since i used regex02:39
darkrift411but i think .. is like wildcards *02:39
SlimGdarkrift411: thanks, it does02:40
darkrift411:)02:40
nosrednaekimTenerifedave: mount, or df02:40
Tenerifedaveahh thank you nosrednaekim02:40
darkrift411i wrote a script in mirc to convert wildcards to regex once02:40
darkrift411used it to create spamfilters on a network i used to run.... those were the days02:40
persephoneMinataku..when are you getting your 3 A1200?02:42
MinatakuWhenever a friend sends them to me02:42
Minatakulol02:42
persephoneDaisuke..is your name like that Red Sox Pitcher?02:43
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persephonewell..enjoy the A12oo..they are good computers and still use as a multimedia machinfe in some circles :D02:44
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persephonesome Star Wars movies were made using them02:45
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darkrift411i thought vlc could play thru lots of errors02:46
darkrift411how come soo many things work better in windows :@02:46
darkrift411firefox and now vlc02:46
dfff./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution ????02:46
dfffwhat to do ?02:47
nosrednaekimdfff: I think you have to run that as root02:47
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dfffim run from root02:47
persephone Daisuke_ido are you still here?02:48
nosrednaekimoh.. ok02:48
nosrednaekimDaisuke_Ido is ALWAYS here02:48
Schuenemannwhat does "free as in beer means" ?02:49
Schuenemannwhat does "free as in beer" means ? *02:49
Schuenemannmean**02:49
persephone Daisuke_ido I do THANK YOUfor your help..I appreciate it a lot :D02:49
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nosrednaekimit means its free, but you don't know what went into it02:49
BluesKajsomeone has paid for it , just not you :)02:49
dfff./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution ????what to do ??02:49
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Schuenemannbut beer isn't free?02:50
Schuenemannbut beer isn't free! (horrible typing today)02:50
persephoneit is when someone else buys :)02:50
BluesKajit is if someone else is paying02:50
Schuenemannhummm heh02:50
nosrednaekimI was about to say "what have you been drinking?"02:51
parandahola02:51
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dfff./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution ????what to do ??02:52
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matt__i am used to ubuntu, but am trying out kde, or kubuntu-desktop, whatever you wanna call it. i found a theme off of kde-look, it is a kth file, how do i apply it?02:53
Schuenemannhehe02:53
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parandahola quien habla espaol02:54
rolandohola, alguien puede ayudarme con kubuntu y mi pinnacle02:54
TeraDyne!es | paranda02:54
ubotuparanda: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:54
Schuenemann!es | paranda02:54
coreymon77!es | paranda02:54
nosrednaekimcoreymon77: hey sorry I couldn't make it yesterday02:55
matt__paranda: hable espanol, pero nada mucho02:55
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matt__how do you apply files of of kde look?02:55
coreymon77nosrednaekim: no prob, i accidentally slept through it anyways, :P02:55
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nosrednaekimcoreymon77: haha02:55
matt__http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/B%C3%A9o?content=6001302:56
DragnslcrAnyone know if there's a shell program that can be used to put something in KDE's on-screen display?02:56
coreymon77nosrednaekim: and they were so disorganized that even if i was there, they wouldnt have gotten to me anyways02:56
matt__i would i make that my system theme?02:56
nosrednaekimcoreymon77: ah, ok.02:56
compilerwriter!sp | paranda02:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:56
compilerwriter!es | paranda02:56
ubotuparanda: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:56
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: onscreen display?02:57
matt__in kubuntu, how do you change the theme?02:57
nosrednaekimmatt__: you have to open "kcontrol"02:57
Dragnslcrnosrednaekim- yeah, the messages in the top-left of the screen. I know Kopete and Amarok use it02:57
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: oh, thats libnotify02:58
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DragnslcrHm. Know if there's a shell command to control it?02:58
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: no clue...02:59
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Dragnslcrnosrednaekim- hm, you sure about that? I don't have any of the packages listed in Adept for 'notify' installed, but Amarok still displays them03:02
nosrednaekimhmm... maybe not..03:02
nosrednaekimjust a second... i know where to find it..03:04
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nosrednaekimDragnslcr: hmmm seems to be a python class in guidance that does the power manager popups03:05
DragnslcrMaybe it's /usr/lib/kde3/knotify.la ?03:05
nosrednaekimno clue where the python module is...03:06
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DragnslcrThere's a python-notify package that requires libnotify103:07
darkrift411how do i make knetworkmgr show my wifi signal meter again instead of a cat5 plug?03:07
darkrift411it used to work03:07
darkrift411and something happened03:07
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: that could be it.. is it installed?03:07
DragnslcrNope. libnotify1 isn't even installed03:07
nosrednaekimdarkrift411: are you still connected via wireless03:08
darkrift411yes03:08
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: do you have guidance power manager installed?03:08
darkrift411could it be because my wifi is called eth1 ?03:08
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darkrift411and if so, can i rename it?03:08
nosrednaekimdarkrift411: no,I don't think so03:08
nosrednaekimit does that for me too sometimes.03:08
darkrift411it used to show03:08
darkrift411and then one day it wouldnt connect03:08
nosrednaekimknetworkmanager is buggy03:08
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darkrift411so i was in there and i noticed it had a bad subnet, and i removed the subnet and wifi worked03:09
Dragnslcrnosrednaekim- yeah, both of the kde-guidance packages are installed03:09
darkrift411but the icon hasnt been right since03:09
darkrift411can i rename eth1 to wifi103:09
darkrift411and will that kill other things03:09
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cWolfe<nosrednaekim> knetworkmanager is buggy03:10
cWolfeits crazy buggy03:10
darkrift411heh03:11
cWolfeits so buggy its not even funny03:11
darkrift411is there a better app to use?03:11
DragnslcrPlug-and-Pray?03:11
darkrift411i just want something that sits in tray showing if im connected, and hopefully a signal meter03:11
cWolfeive been doing the manual ip thing03:11
cWolfeoh, for wifi03:11
nosrednaekimdarkrift411: I think kwifimanager does it, but it doesn't do WPA03:11
cWolfei dont use wifi03:11
DragnslcrI gave up on wireless several years ago. Of course, I don't really like laptops anyway03:11
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nosrednaekimDragnslcr: you know... I have no clue.. but you should be able to write a python program to do it.03:13
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DragnslcrEh03:13
DragnslcrIt's already in a shell script, which is why I wanted a shell command03:13
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darkrift411erm03:13
darkrift411when i close kwifimanager, it doesnt go to tray03:13
darkrift411it closes :(03:14
DragnslcrI finally discovered that Kopete can do what I miss most about Trillian03:14
darkrift411nvm03:14
darkrift411found option to fix gtat03:14
darkrift411that*03:14
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nosrednaekimDragnslcr: thats cool, tho I use GAIM (aka pidgin b4 everyone flames me)03:15
hitmanWillynosrednaekim: nah, if you're using the one from the repos its still gaim :)03:15
DragnslcrYeah, I was using Gaim. I figure I should start using Kopete though03:15
DragnslcrGaim seems to be getting less customization-friendly03:16
darkrift411does kapote have a google talk plugin?03:16
DragnslcrKopete supports Jabber, yes03:16
jriachiis there something like  pdf2jpeg, or something like that?03:16
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ffff2fff!ati03:18
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:18
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: ok.. I have libnotify1 installed03:19
DragnslcrMaybe for that Python package you mentioned03:19
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nosrednaekimDragnslcr: how about notification-daemon?03:19
DragnslcrNot installed03:20
hitmanWilly!info libnotify103:20
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ubotulibnotify1: sends desktop notifications to a notification daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.3-1 (feisty), package size 24 kB, installed size 92 kB03:20
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hitmanWilly!info notification-daemon03:20
ubotunotification-daemon: a daemon that displays passive pop-up notifications. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.6-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 43 kB, installed size 188 kB03:20
jriachihello03:21
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nosrednaekimDragnslcr: go get libnotify-bin. that does what you want03:22
hitmanWillyjriachi: howdy03:22
nosrednaekimjust tested it out03:22
TachyonI'm having a problem installing Kubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 6400.  After I select "Start or install Kubuntu", it loads the Linux kernel and the Kubuntu startup screen, but then the screen goes blank with a cursor flashing in the upper left hand corner.03:22
TachyonNothing I do has any effect.03:22
nosrednaekimDragnslcr: and then do "man notify-send"03:22
Dragnslcrnosrednaekim- I was about to say that seems somewhat odd that Amarok can do the OSD messages if that isn't installed03:24
nosrednaekimit must use something else03:24
nosrednaekimbut that will do what you want03:24
jriachihitmanWilly: taking a break. (studing communications electronic tonight :) )03:24
hitmanWilly:)03:24
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hitmanWillyamarok probably has some sort of direct interface to the kde desktop03:25
bigpermwhat is the difference between the cd and dvd versions of kubuntu03:25
TeraDyneYou know, I have the Amarok source on my laptop here. I'll see if I can find what it uses for the OSD.03:26
hitmanWillyor possibly uses its own built in routines03:26
Dragnslcrnosrednaekim- doesn't seem to work. I thought Kopete used it too, but I guess it doesn't03:27
nosrednaekimlibnotify-bin doesn't work?03:27
DragnslcrMaybe Amarok is special03:27
kalorin`any brilliant hardware types out there?03:28
Dragnslcrnotify-send Test "This is a test"03:28
DragnslcrI didn't see anything03:28
kalorin`trying to figure out what mhz my cpu is running at in this machine03:28
DragnslcrNo big deal. I thought that OSD was part of KDE, but maybe it is just part of Amarok03:28
bigpermwhat is the difference between the cd and dvd versions of kubuntu?03:28
TeraDyneLooks like Amarok uses it's own custom OSD.03:28
kalorin`bigperm: likely how much it'll have to download if you want to install more stuff03:29
hitmanWillybigperm: more packages on the dvd that you'll probably need to update anyway :)03:29
DragnslcrI just wanted to toss a little extra feedback into my shell scripts that set my Kopete status. It's not all that important03:29
SlimGbigperm: DVD installs the correct language packs for your chosen language afair03:30
SlimGbigperm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30706003:31
darkrift411i cant find kopete plugins anywhere :(03:31
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cWolfei have blackcats-games invites if anyone wants03:32
cWolfesorry, wrong channel, the offer still stands though03:32
bigpermthanks a bunch03:32
bigpermI just bought a inspiron 1200 with a crap ethernet port and it looks like the dvd version is going to be better03:32
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DragnslcrI still say that you have a DVD burner, blank discs, and an extra day or so for the download, you might as well get the DVD03:34
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nosrednaekimDragnslcr: ahh... the notifications go to the bottom left hand corner with this command "notify-send -c Notify "test"03:35
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The_Un-Nameddoes anyone have a 7.04 minimal cd download link?03:35
darkrift411how do you get kopete to connect to your gmail chat?03:35
darkrift411i entered it in email@gmail.com03:36
nosrednaekimdarkrift411: instructiona are on the google site03:36
darkrift411and my password03:36
darkrift411but it wont connect03:36
darkrift411oh, i c03:36
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darkrift411:)03:36
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nosrednaekimDragnslcr: try it out.03:37
bigpermthe DVD torrent is rocking a solid 700k03:37
nosrednaekimand I have to go.. c ya03:37
bigpermwith built-in hash checks, it's the way to download03:37
bigpermonly and hour to go03:37
e0fHi guys. How can I change my desktop resolution on kubuntu without edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? thanks :)03:38
hasanhi gyus03:38
hasanwho uses kmldonkey?03:38
hasanhow can i add new servers to it?03:38
hasanas it was the case with amule from servers.met file03:38
hasanor do i have to add every server manually one by one?03:39
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hitmanWillye0f: if you have an nvidia card you can use nvidia-settings03:39
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e0fhitmanWilly: nope, i've i915 :)03:40
SchuenemannI need help setting up my nvidia graphic card (and please, I already know the wiki link and wasn't able to accomplish it)03:40
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hitmanWillye0f: well, system settings should have an option to change it, but its limited by what's in xorg.conf IIRC03:40
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sweettoothhey there, my kdenetworkmanager doesn't seem very stable at times, after reboot, sometimes it does not detect any network at all, has any one got an idea?03:41
e0fhitmanWilly: i didn't found that in system settings!!03:41
hitmanWillye0f: display settings?03:42
coreymon77sweettooth: what type of network connection03:42
cWolfeso back to an earlier topic, im the only one with fiesty that cant burn a file bigger than 4BG on a dl dvd?03:42
e0fhitmanWilly: yeah, I didn't found display setting in my kubuntu!! :(03:42
cWolfes/4BG/4GB03:42
sweettoothcoreymon77, it is wireless connection03:42
hitmanWillye0f: it may be under the advanced tab03:42
e0fhitmanWilly: mmmm yeah but where? lol03:43
hitmanWillye0f: if you still can't find it, try alt-f2 and run kcontrol, i know its in there :)03:43
coreymon77sweettooth: okay, what network card (company, model, chipset, driver)?03:43
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darkrift411is there a way to make ctrl+v and ctrl+c the universal copy and paste?03:44
darkrift411like in konsole?03:44
e0fhitmanWilly: mmm....i don't found display setting in kcontrol!!!!03:44
darkrift411i feel like the nerd who needs linux to be windows03:45
darkrift411but i do :)03:45
darkrift411i want linux to be a more stable windows :)03:45
jriachie0f: what a you trying to do?03:45
Dragnslcrdarkrift411- dunno about globally, but you can configure Konsole's shortcut keys03:45
sweettoothcoreymon77, sorry how to tell?03:45
hitmanWillye0f: ok, Peripherals --> Display03:45
coreymon77sweettooth: desktop or laptop03:45
hitmanWillye0f: under kcontrol03:46
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sweettoothit is an acer laptop travelmate 300003:46
coreymon77darkrift411: the only time ive seen it not like that is in konsole03:46
coreymon77darkrift411: just live with it03:46
e0fhitmanWilly: in Peripherals there aren't Display on my kde :(( i dunno why!!!03:46
jriachie0f: or try   displayconfig03:46
coreymon77okay03:46
Dragnslcrdarkrift411- although, as Konsole just warned me, using Ctrl-C for copy might not be a good idea03:46
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coreymon77darkrift411: cntrl+c is used for the cancel command function03:47
s1imas1!ATI03:47
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:47
hitmanWillye0f: ok, it sounds like something in your system is borked...03:47
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coreymon77sweettooth: okay, so i take it that its a pmcia wireless card right?03:48
sweettoothnot really, its built-in03:48
jriachiwith convert print.ps print.png , i get "print-0.png" and  "print-1.png";    each with a page of the .ps, how can i get just one (taller) image (i dont mind using another program)?03:49
sweettoothcoreymon77, can you tell me how to find out the wireless card details please?03:49
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sweettooththen i can precisely tell you which one it is :)03:49
Arwenman I need a new hard drive.... burning DVDs is such a pain in the ***03:49
coreymon77sweettooth: type lspmcia into konsole03:49
darkrift411in ktorrent, where do i find the torrent thats currently downloading?03:50
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darkrift411its downloading at like 2k, but i know it can go faster03:50
darkrift411so imma delete it and reaload it03:50
darkrift411but cant find it03:50
sweettoothcoreymon77, i take it as 'lspcmcia'm and the result is Socket 0 Bridge:        [yenta_cardbus]          (bus ID: 0000:06:07.0)03:51
darkrift411and yes, i am gonna suck you guys dry of info03:51
darkrift411i love this mother(censored) channel03:51
coreymon77sweettooth: give me the output next to ethernet controller in the lspmcia output03:51
Daisuke_Idowhat version of ktorrent?03:52
darkrift411latest03:52
darkrift411whatever came with 7.0403:52
Daisuke_Idolatest from the repos?03:52
Daisuke_Ido2.103:52
Daisuke_Idok03:52
darkrift411and all upgrades03:52
darkrift411im current on upgrades03:52
Daisuke_Idostill 2.103:52
Daisuke_Ido:D03:52
darkrift411k03:52
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Daisuke_Idohow do you find where it stores the actual .torrent files or where it stores the files you're downloading or where you can actually find the listing in the gui?03:53
sweettoothbash: lspmcia: command not found03:53
Daisuke_Idoyou were kinda vague03:53
sweettoothcoreymon77, am i missing sth in here?03:53
Daisuke_Idolspcmcia03:53
darkrift411torrent03:53
Daisuke_Idoah03:53
darkrift411i need to copy it so i can restart it completely03:53
Daisuke_Idolet me have a quick little looksee03:53
Daisuke_Idoum03:53
darkrift411dont know where firefox would have downloaded it03:53
Daisuke_Idoit will keep it there03:53
coreymon77sweettooth: put the output of lspmcia into pastebin and give me the link03:53
darkrift411and there is no "properties" in ktorrent03:53
Daisuke_Idohave you used utorrent before?03:54
The_Un-Namedhttp://hoey.tzo.com:8082/ViewerFrame?Mode=Motion&Resolution=320x240&Quality=Motion&Interval=30&Size=STD&PresetOperation=Move&Language=003:54
darkrift411yes03:54
The_Un-Namedsorry, wrong channel03:54
darkrift411wish there was one for linux03:54
Daisuke_Idothen you know utorrent saves torrents between uses of the program03:54
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banksey!xine03:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:54
darkrift411yes03:54
Daisuke_Idoit's there when you close it, still there when you reopen it03:54
darkrift411i want to backup the .torrent file03:54
darkrift411and delete torrent + data03:54
Daisuke_Idoktorrent does the same thing03:54
darkrift411and restart ktorrent03:54
Daisuke_IdoAH.03:54
Daisuke_Idookay03:55
darkrift411then reload the backup .torrent03:55
Daisuke_Idoodd, but doable03:55
darkrift411lol03:55
sweettoothcoreymon77, pls have a look, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27543/03:55
darkrift411i have 4000 seeds, 2000 leechers and im getting .2k download speeds03:55
darkrift411so something is wrong03:55
coreymon77sweettooth: okay, how about this, tpye iwconfig03:56
coreymon77and give me the output03:56
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Daisuke_Idonot necessarily03:56
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coreymon77darkrift411: are you behind any sort of firewall?03:56
darkrift411for the first 20 seconds, i hit 350k03:56
darkrift411yes, but i have ports forwarded properly03:56
darkrift411and i get good speeds all the time03:56
darkrift411up to 1400k sometimes03:57
Arwendarkrift411, maybe you've been banned?03:58
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darkrift411erm03:58
Arwenand they're "peers" not "leechers"03:58
darkrift411for what?03:58
coreymon77darkrift411: obviously just crappy seeds then03:58
sweettoothcoreymon77, please have a look again, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27544/03:58
Arwenunless they're actually leeching of course03:58
darkrift411some torrent sites use the term leechers03:58
darkrift411so it stuck03:58
darkrift411lol03:58
sweettoothcoreymon77, eth1 is wireless03:58
Daisuke_Ido~/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent03:58
coreymon77 i know03:58
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darkrift411kdesu konqueror ~/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent03:59
darkrift411erm03:59
Daisuke_Idothere are directories in there for your torrents.  finding the right one could be a pain.03:59
Daisuke_Idouh03:59
coreymon77i take it the router is a linksys one, right?03:59
Daisuke_Idowhy the hell do you need kdesu?03:59
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Daisuke_Idosorry about the language03:59
sweettoothcoreymon77, that's right03:59
Daisuke_Idoit's your home directory03:59
Daisuke_Idoyou don't need to run it as su03:59
darkrift411i get tired of locked files03:59
darkrift411heh03:59
modjohas anyone here used a vnc client on kubuntu on a winxp vnc server?03:59
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coreymon77sweettooth: can you give me the manufacturers website for your laptop, i may be able to find out more info from that04:00
darkrift411that location doesnt exist :s04:00
darkrift411oh04:00
darkrift411nvm04:00
modjohas anyone here used a vnc client on kubuntu on a winxp vnc server?, anyone?04:01
dranasi got a question, how do i add the universe repo my source list?04:01
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modjoyou must edit the repo list04:01
modjoin sudo mode04:01
dranasdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multiverse04:02
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dranasis that what i add?04:02
intelikeywell. i have reloaded for the fourth time in two days trying to get the kinks jerked out of this tosheba !04:02
darkrift411i cant find any torrents in there04:02
modjohas anyone here used a vnc client on kubuntu on a winxp vnc server?, anyone?04:02
darkrift411ill just find it again04:02
sweettoothcoreymon77, http://global.acer.com/products/notebook/tm3000.htm04:03
coreymon77i see04:04
coreymon77its an intel card04:04
intelikeyneedless to say, i'm not fit to talk to today.04:04
dranasi just dont know what to add to get the universe repo04:04
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modjohas anyone here used a vnc client on kubuntu on a winxp vnc server?, anyone?04:05
intelikeydranas you add "universe"04:05
TeraDyneintelikey: I don't blame you.04:05
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dranasi mean the whole line04:05
dranasthis is what i got so far04:05
dranasdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multiverse04:05
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coreymon77sweettooth: you jsut want your network to auto connect on boot right?04:05
hitmanWillyintelikey: is that the one that had vista on it?04:06
dranasdo i delete the word multiverse?04:06
intelikeydranas you don't need to add a line.  jsut a word04:06
TeraDyneintelikey: I had to reinstall kubuntu 6 times when I first tried dapper, trying to get my wireless card to work04:06
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dranaswell it has universe and multiverse, do i delete the word multiverse?04:06
sweettoothcoreymon77, i usually use wireless at work with a different network, however, if so, what shall i do?04:06
coreymon77oh04:06
coreymon77well then04:06
intelikeydranas example:    deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted    <<< that to this >>>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse04:06
sweettoothcoreymon77, besides i want to know why it didn't detect the wireless network at times04:07
dranasso deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multiverse  is corect then?04:07
sweettoothi have to restart and pray sometimes :(04:07
coreymon77sweettooth: personally, i dont use knetworkmanager, i just use kwifimanager04:07
intelikeydranas that added both universe and multiverse  to the repos for a dapper system04:07
michael_mcan someone help me with a slow boot problem???04:07
dranashmmm04:07
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coreymon77sweettooth: wouldnt a simple iwconfig command work?04:07
intelikeydranas in answer to your Q yes04:07
sweettoothcoreymon77, if i load both on, would they crash?04:08
sweettooththat's the thing, even i typed iwlist eth1 scanning, it doesn't seem to scan any network at all04:08
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coreymon77sweettooth: okay then, and does running the iwconfig command to connect not work?04:09
sweettoothcoreymon77, im not too sure, cos i have never tried it, i will give it a go next time, heh04:09
sweettoothso what do you think is the problem?04:09
coreymon77sweettooth: it may actually be your network card thats doing it04:10
TeraDyneDoes anyone know of a good desktop blogging app that works with the new Blogger?04:10
coreymon77sweettooth: but there is something that may help04:10
sweettoothcoreymon77, any guidance would be grateful04:10
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coreymon77sweettooth: okay, open system settings and then into network settings04:12
sweettoothcoreymon77, yup04:13
ArwenTeraDyne, uh, kate04:13
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coreymon77sweettooth: click on administrator mode and enter your password04:13
intelikey!paste > dranas04:13
michael_mcan someone please help me with a slow boot04:13
michael_m?04:13
sweettoothcoreymon77, done04:14
TeraDyneArwen: ? Could you infrom me as to how I can post to my blog from kate?04:14
Arwenyes, write your story..... upload it... voila04:14
Arwen(doing)04:14
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coreymon77sweettooth: okay, so, what appears in the list in the network settings window04:15
intelikeymichael_m take out the networking and see if that was the reason for the delay.   ?    sudo update-rc.d network remove    you can put it back the same way04:15
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coreymon77sweettooth: oh, btw, do you know the essid (network name), wep key (network password if you have one), default gateway (the routers ip address), and dns server of both of the networks you connect to (your home and your office)?04:16
TeraDyneNo, I mean something like BloGTK, where I don't need a browser. Konqueror tends to randomly crash while writing my entries for some reason.04:16
TeraDyneAnd I don't want to install SeaMonkey just to write in my blog.04:17
Arwenso install firefox?04:17
sweettoothi know the one from home04:17
coreymon77sweettooth: okay04:17
sweettoothi guess i can find out other info when im back at office tomorrow04:17
coreymon77sweettooth: well then i will only be able to do this for your home network04:17
TeraDyneArwen: Firefox.... *shudders* No thanks. That hog won't be finding itself on my laptop anytime soon.04:17
sweettoothcoreymon77, that's cool04:18
Arwenfirefox... hog... how?04:18
Arwenfor one, foxes eat hogs04:18
sweettoothcoreymon77, i have network connections, proxy, connection preferences, and zeroconf service discovery on the left side04:18
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s1imas1what is kubuntu system requoest ?04:18
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coreymon77sweettooth: i meant the interfaces list in Network Connections04:19
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TeraDyneArwen: anytime I run FF, anything after 1.0.4 anyway, on my laptop, it immediately starts using up a ton of memory, so much so that it starts to use swap..04:19
coreymon77sweettooth: there is only one device in that list right?04:19
sweettoothcoreymon77, i have eth0 and eth104:19
Arwen...funny, I must have a magic firefox then. It always stays stable at 10% RAM usage...04:20
coreymon77Arwen: me too04:20
coreymon77sweettooth: okay, is your work connection wireless aswell?04:20
Arwencoreymon77, we're magic! lol04:20
coreymon77sweettooth: do they both use eth104:20
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sweettoothcoreymon77, the wireless at work is using eth104:20
TeraDyneArwen: I've had it hit 30% several times, and stay there. It might be because I have about 20 tabs open at any one time.04:20
coreymon77sweettooth: aoky04:20
Arwenhint: if your RAM isn't being used, it's wasting your money04:21
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Arwenjust a thought04:21
sweettoothfirefox is slow in xp in my case04:21
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sweettoothlol04:21
shdq:D04:21
Arwenlol, cmon, no need to troll, even on a Linux channel04:21
coreymon77sweettooth: okay, so click on eth1. and click configure04:22
sweettoothto be fair, i have only just swapped to kubuntu, and it does rock :)04:22
TeraDyneArwen: Here's the thing. Firefox uses 20% of memory easy, while seamonkey uses 10% at most.04:22
Arwenhere's the thing: if your memory isn't being used, it's being wasted04:22
Arwenjust a thought04:22
TeraDyneArwen: Then again, I always compile my own copy of seamonkey, anyway.04:22
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intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3774504:22
TeraDyneArwen: That's the problem. It uses too much.04:22
sweettoothcoreymon77, yup, do i just put the essid and the key?04:22
Arwenanyway, we could go on and on about FF...04:23
TeraDyneArwen: true.04:23
Arwenyou can reduce the memory usage in config if you want... it's just cache for fast rendering04:23
coreymon77sweettooth: well, do you have a static ip?04:23
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sweettoothno, the router dynamically assign an internal ip for my laptop04:23
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sweettoothcoreymon77, but for the internet connection, yes04:23
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coreymon77sweettooth: i mean for the network,04:24
coreymon77sweettooth: is it static or assigned by DNS04:24
TeraDyneArwen: I tried that. I couldn't get it to go below 17% even with it set so that it wouldn't cache.04:24
sweettoothit is assigned by DNS04:25
TeraDyneArwen: Meh, I think I'll just compile seamonkey.04:25
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sweettoothcoreymon77, it is assigned by DNS04:25
coreymon77sweettooth: okay, so just put in your essid and wep key04:25
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sweettoothcoreymon77, done ;)04:26
coreymon77sweettooth: now go to routes and put in the default gateway04:26
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intelikey!ati > dranas04:27
sweettoothcoreymon77, also done04:27
s1imas1what is kubuntu system requoest ?04:27
coreymon77sweettooth: now go to the dns tab and put in your dns('s)04:28
sweettoothcoreymon77, i think mine is already there04:28
coreymon77sweettooth: okay04:28
coreymon77sweettooth: good04:28
coreymon77sweettooth: now go to network profiles04:28
coreymon77sweettooth: are there any there?04:28
sweettoothcoreymon77, no, its blank, should i create a new and save it?04:29
coreymon77sweettooth: create one called "home" and save it04:29
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sweettoothcoreymon77, done04:30
coreymon77sweettooth: okay, now press apply04:30
sweettoothyup04:30
sweettoothcoreymon77, that's it?04:30
crazy_busI've got a mp4 I downloaded off google video.  It plays in kaffeine but I cant change the timer position and can only watch it from the start to the end.  Is there any way to fix this?04:31
coreymon77sweettooth: good, now, whenyou get to work, do the same thing we just did, but replace the info from your home network with the info for your work network04:31
Arwencrazy_bus, yes, get a player with better support for MPEG-4 Part 14 (mp4)04:31
Arwenlike maybe mplayer04:31
coreymon77sweettooth: then save that as the "work" or "office" profile04:31
coreymon77and whenever you change places04:31
coreymon77just go and choose the right profile and click apply04:31
coreymon77sweettooth: okay?04:32
sweettoothcoreymon77, ic, that's brilliant m8, thx for your patience and help :)04:32
coreymon77sweettooth: also, if that doesnt work04:32
sweettoothyea?04:32
coreymon77sweettooth: run the iwconfig command04:32
sweettoothyup, will do04:32
sweettooththx a lot again04:32
coreymon77sweettooth: that being sudo iwconfig eth1 essid [your essid]  key [your wep key] 04:32
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crazy_busall other mp4's play properly in kaffeine?  Its only the one I downloaded directly from google video that has problems04:32
Tenerifedavehello all, i am currently using vnc to my computer from another on the network but it is very slow and file transfer goes up to a max of say 900kbps is this normal?04:33
sweettoothcoreymon77, okie dokie, i will have a go with it nxt time :)04:33
coreymon77sweettooth: no problem, its what im here for, anything goes wrong just give me a shout04:33
Tenerifedavei'm using wireless by the way if it makes any difference04:34
coreymon77sweettooth: see if the profile thing works first though04:34
DaSkreechsweettooth: I am Calypso Muwahahahaha04:34
Arwencrazy_bus, then maybe it's a nonstandard implementation of MP4?04:34
Arwenanyway, try another player04:34
sweettoothcoreymon77, will do, i will restart and test it, thx04:34
Arwenif it's not seekable, you can always extract the audio/video and make a fresh mp404:34
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sweettoothhi DaSkreech04:34
Tenerifedavewhat sort of transfer rates does everyone get on wireless?04:35
Arwenabout 5MB/s...04:35
Arwen(max)04:35
coreymon77Tenerifedave: are both of the computers on the same network?04:36
Tenerifedaveyeah04:36
coreymon77Tenerifedave: then waht are you using vnc for, just connect to the computer directly04:36
coreymon77Tenerifedave: over the LAN04:36
Tenerifedavei use wireless in my house04:36
Tenerifedavefor networking04:37
Tenerifedaveits just i am only getting say 900kbps max transfer04:37
Arwencould just be weak wifi04:38
Arwenor if you're talking smb, low speeds are normal04:38
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Tenerifedaveits ftp04:38
Tenerifedavebut maybe the wireless04:38
Tenerifedaveit is a couple of years old now04:38
Arwenhmm, yeah, what wifi protocol version?04:38
Tenerifedaveermm what ones are there?04:39
Tenerifedavesorry im a noob lol04:39
Arwendunno myself, lol04:39
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Arwenjust that one of em ends in "a", another in "b", another in "g", and another in "n"04:39
Tenerifedaveahh04:39
Tenerifedavewell its b/g04:39
Arwenah, how far are you from the source? and do you have protected mode on in the router?04:40
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Tenerifedavewell i have a arial coming down and its hanging across the room04:40
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Tenerifedaveevery computer is excellent put it that way04:41
drgonzohey fellas, Is there anyway to setup kmail to group messages by day/week/month like outlook?04:41
ArwenTenerifedave, hmm, well, maybe it's just phony wifi? does performance increase if you switch to Ethernet?04:41
Tenerifedaveand protected mode: its not a router, just a hub04:41
Tenerifedavehavent tried just ethernet04:41
Tenerifedavemaybe a crap wifi04:41
Tenerifedaveneed to get a new one me thinks04:42
Tenerifedaveit also cuts off sometimes04:42
DaSkreechTeraDyne: install Netscape04:42
Tenerifedaveneed to reset it04:42
DaSkreecheasy to install easy to blow away04:42
hasanis there anybody who use kmldonkey?04:42
hasanor any other client?04:42
drgonzoi use it04:42
hasanhow can  add servers?04:43
hasanthere are only 3 servers available04:43
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drgonzoi add it via the gui04:43
hasando i have to enter every server name manually one by one?04:43
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hasanone by one?04:43
drgonzono you can provide a file04:43
hasanhow can i do that?04:43
drgonzoumm may i suggest #kmldonkey04:43
hasanfrom a .met file?04:44
hasanja sur04:44
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ArwenBluesKaj, you should confiscate laptops and PCs on sight!04:44
Arwen:-P04:44
cWolfeseriously, am I the only person with fiesty that can't burn a file bigger than 4GB on a dl dvd?04:45
ArwencWolfe, dunno, did you change the fs mode to "UDF - Large Files"?04:45
cWolfeyes04:45
Arwenmeh, dunno then. Try splitting the file?04:45
BluesKajArwen, I'm a grandfather, my kids are grown with their own kids to worry about... so i don't :)04:46
DaSkreechs1imas1: What?04:46
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cWolfe:( i was hoping i wouldnt have to04:46
ArwenBluesKaj, not what I meant, lol04:46
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Arwenif you confiscated em, you could build a massive Beowulf cluster!04:46
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BluesKajok , what did you mean Arwen ? ... it went over my head :)04:47
Arwennever mind, it's over mine too04:47
DaSkreechBluesKaj: I so read that as bathrooms :)04:47
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Schuenemannbrazil 0x2 mxico *sigh*04:48
BluesKajbeowulf...oh yeah04:48
BluesKajneighbours have wifi , constantly complaining about probs ...so i decided to hardwire altho i do have wireless options04:50
ArwenBluesKaj, you were stealing their wifi? lol04:50
BluesKajyou know Arwen , i prolly could :)04:51
BluesKajwindows surfers04:51
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DaSkreechheehee04:53
DaSkreechI love how using windows automatically makes you inept and using apple automatically makes you elitist04:54
n8k99-but you can get them in pink!!04:54
Arwenhehe04:54
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hitmanWillyArwen: it's called an airbrush :P04:54
Arwenhehe04:54
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drgonzodoes anyone know what I mean. Maybe i should elabourate. In outlook you it it group messages by day/week/year/ etc so can that can be expanded and closed on convienence Can this be done with kmail?04:57
drgonzoelaborate*04:57
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BluesKajdrgonzo, why don't you look at the kmail manual..it's quite extensive ..lots of options04:58
drgonzook04:58
dwidmanndrgonzo: I don't see a way to do it exactly that way, but I know a way you can filter it th at way04:58
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dwidmannin the filter box near the top, type in something like "today" if you want to see todays messages, or yesterday for yesterdays, otherwise use the date as it appears in the date column04:59
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dwidmannoh, wait, you can also use days of the same week, ie: sunday, monday, etc05:00
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drgonzofilter box?05:01
dwidmannshould be right next to the word search05:02
drgonzooh search05:02
BluesKajsacktime for me...nite all , take care.05:02
dwidmannit's looking to be about time for me to go to bed too :(05:03
drgonzocheers05:03
dwidmannlater folks05:04
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devnull!wine05:16
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:16
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hiyah!ftp05:18
ubotuFTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd05:18
hiyahhi i need to setup a ftp server, which package shd i use?05:18
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DaSkreech!kasablanca05:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kasablanca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:18
DaSkreechLying bot05:19
TeraDyne!FTPd05:19
ubotuFTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP05:19
hiyahwhich one are typically used?05:19
hiyahproftpd?05:20
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mneptokhiyah: why an FTP server?05:22
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mneptokhiyah: do you need to give access to anonymous users?05:22
TeraDyne!info proftpd | hiyah05:22
ubotuhiyah: proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-21ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 765 kB, installed size 2276 kB05:22
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hiyahno i don't want anonymous to come in.. specific users05:23
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hiyahjust installed proftpd05:23
TeraDyneHave the filezilla guys ported their ftp server over to linux yet?05:23
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mneptoki hope not05:24
mneptokhiyah: do you need to give access to anonymous users?05:24
TeraDynemneptok: why not?05:24
hiyahmneptok: no..05:24
mneptokhiyah: then do not use FTP05:24
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mneptokSFTP/SCP is what you want05:24
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mneptoksudo apt-get install openssh-server05:25
mneptokthen use any SFTP client (like Filezilla) to login05:25
TeraDynewhat about vsftpd?05:25
TeraDyne!info vsftpd05:25
ubotuvsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.5-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 111 kB, installed size 408 kB05:25
mneptokit's still FTP05:25
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secleinteerhi, does anyone know how to readd items removed from the kmenu?05:25
mneptokif you don't need anonymous access you should not use FTP05:26
hiyahmneptok: i need to let windows ftp clients to come in.. can openssh do that?05:26
mneptokhiyah: Filezilla05:26
Carnage\secleinteer: What items in particular?05:26
hiyahok... i've already got openssh05:26
mneptokhiyah: http://filezilla.sf.net05:26
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Carnage\Just links to programs?05:26
TeraDynemneptok:  good point. I keep forgetting that tip.05:26
evsophomore2009Can anyone help me out with Limewire?05:26
secleinteerCarnage\: kmail05:27
TeraDyne!ask | evsophomore200905:27
ubotuevsophomore2009: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:27
hiyahmneptok: ok thanks :>05:27
Daisuke_Idoanyone familiar with linux usenet software?05:27
Carnage\secleinteer: Rightclick on a menu entry and select "Edit Menu..."?05:27
evsophomore2009TeraDyne: Are you familiar with LimeWire?05:27
mneptokhiyah: np. encrypted traffic is *always* better for you, the admin, than cleartext ;)05:27
Arwenlol @ LimeWarez05:28
mneptokDaisuke_Ido: i use Pan. i believe the KDE PIM suite has a Usenet client05:28
TeraDyneevsophomore2009: just ask what you're having problems with. someone is bound to know how to help, or where to go to get help.05:28
secleinteerCarnage\: to restore an item, not to create a new one05:29
hiyahmneptok: all the while my users are using linux to ssh and rsync in.. didn't know that filezilla can do transfer via windows05:29
evsophomore2009Okay, on LimeWire when i play a few songs, at the end of the song, it maks an error noise and i cant play music untill i re-start LimeWire...anyone know how to fix it?05:29
mneptokhiyah: yup. Filezilla is an SFTP client in addition to FTP05:29
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Arwenevsophomore2009, use a real media player05:30
Carnage\secleinteer: If it's deleted, it's deleted, I think :)05:30
evsophomore2009Arwen: well i need to use Limewire so i can download songs....duh05:31
Arwenwarez is bad...05:31
evsophomore2009Warez.....05:31
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hiyahmneptok: yeah as long as it will work on windows.. does it support resuming?05:31
mneptokhiyah: no idea. i use Linux. :)05:32
secleinteerCarnage\: it's not deleted, because the *.desktop files aren't stored on the separate user accounts, they're in /usr/share/applications, and certain *.desktop files are "excluded" when you "delete" them through the GUI05:32
evsophomore2009Anyone good with Wine and iTunes?05:32
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Arwenwine + itunes = no05:32
Arwenyou can run up to version 4, but after that, just give up05:32
evsophomore2009why is it a No?05:32
hiyahmneptok: SFTP means openssh-server compatible?05:32
Arwen^^05:32
Tm_TAmarok <305:32
TeraDyneTm_T: amen.05:33
intelikeyvlc05:33
mneptokhiyah: SFTP = secure FTP = OpenSSH05:33
evsophomore2009Version 405:33
evsophomore2009?05:33
Arwenlol @ vlc, it doesn't even play subtitles and matroska right05:33
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Arwenevsophomore2009, yes, v405:33
intelikeyArwen it doesn't even need non-free help... :)05:34
Arwenmplayer > vlc05:34
Arwen:-)05:34
hiyahmneptok: ic..ok i'll try filezilla brb05:34
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Arwenbut anyway, that's not the point05:34
evsophomore2009Version 4 works?05:35
intelikeyi just need to argue with something besides this tosheba for a while.05:35
mneptokevsophomore2009: Limewire is a P2P app. stop sending it to do a media player's job. ;)05:35
evsophomore2009mneptok: well it has a media player for a reason05:35
Arwenevsophomore2009, more or less05:35
DaSkreechWMP > *05:35
mneptokevsophomore2009: oh? what's the reason?05:36
Arwenevsophomore2009, and yeah, the reason it has a media player is so that it can be even more bloaty05:36
Carnage\secleinteer: Oh, then you could create a new entry and copy the content from the "deleted" *.desktop to the new one05:36
intelikeymozilla ?05:36
intelikey:)05:36
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TeraDyneintelikey: what about mozilla?05:37
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secleinteerCarnage\: but i don't know where to place this file05:37
intelikey"even more bloaty"05:37
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evsophomore2009mneptok: to listen to the audio.05:37
mneptoksecleinteer: what app are you trying to unhide?05:37
secleinteermneptok: kmail05:38
evsophomore2009Arwen: Bloaty?05:38
Arwenyes, bloaty bloaty bloat05:38
mneptoksecleinteer: that's not in the menus. Kontact is.05:38
TeraDyneintelikey: Which app are you talking about? If you mean how Firefox has become bloated, I'll agree there.05:38
dr_willis'bloaty' a vague term thats always used as a insult to software when you cant come up with any other valid arguments.05:38
=== intelikey sings the mozilla song bloaty bloaty bloat bloat bloat
secleinteermneptok: then why is there a KMail.desktop file under /usr/share/applications ?05:38
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dr_willisone mans bloat - is anothers must have eye candy.05:38
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mneptokevsophomore2009: so if i add a 38 metric ton telescope to a car so "that you can see the sky better through the sunroof" you'd embrace it as a good idea and buy one?05:39
evsophomore2009ew no05:39
mneptoksecleinteer: it's in a hidden state by default. edit that .desktop app stub with a text editor to unhide it.05:39
dr_willis'arguments through absurdity' dosent really prove much.05:39
intelikeyapt-get install mozilla     79m dl     apt-get install dillo 600k dl        what is bloat anyway ?05:40
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mneptokdr_willis: "reductio ad absurdum" is the term you want ;)05:40
dr_willismneptok,  hes going the other way05:40
TeraDyneintelikey: the mozilla package is 79m?05:40
secleinteermneptok: what do i need to remove from the config file?05:40
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Arwenmozilla is 79M? wtf?05:40
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mneptoksecleinteer: NoDisplay=true05:41
secleinteermneptok: ok, will try that05:41
dr_willisive seen worse. :)05:41
intelikeyTeraDyne plus it's deps for this system  "package size is 11.8MB"05:41
dr_willisprinter drivers for my printer/scanner under windows - was over 125mb compressed.05:42
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DaSkreechArwen: Why are you acting surprised Netscape was as big as some distros05:42
Arwenhmm05:42
TeraDyneintelikey: ah, that explains it.05:42
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intelikeyTeraDyne that's package size it expands to  36.4MB unpacked05:43
Tenerifedaveanyone know about an error when trying to use sudo, says "sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory" :-/05:43
carutsuArwen: it's the hole suite, browser, mail, calendar, ...05:43
Arwenah05:43
mneptok*whole05:43
carutsuwhole?05:43
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DaSkreechTenerifedave: What command?05:43
Tenerifedavesudo apt-get05:43
carutsumneptok: oops i didn't know, thank you :P05:44
Tenerifedaveor sudo apt-cache05:44
Guilty_as_SinI just want to state that the second life linux ver. runs great..   but the game still absolutely sucks..  I must be missing something05:44
Tenerifedaveor anything i think05:44
dr_willisGuilty_as_Sin,  no.. the game sucks... :005:44
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dr_willisGuilty_as_Sin,  its just a time sink.. plain and simple..05:44
dr_willisGuilty_as_Sin,  sort of like... err... IRC! :)05:44
Guilty_as_Sinok, thanks for the input..   I have to admit..  got a lil curious05:44
TenerifedaveDaSkreech: "05:45
Tenerifedavedave is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.05:45
Tenerifedavedave@computer:~$ sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory05:45
Tenerifedavesorry for the flood05:45
TeraDynedr_willis: agreed, except the IRC part. At least I learn stuff on IRC.05:45
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TeraDyneTenerifedave: if that was a flood, then I've seen worse from people typing things in by hand.05:45
Tenerifedavelol05:46
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intelikey!info mozilla-browser05:46
ubotuPackage mozilla-browser does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:46
intelikey!info mozilla-browser dapper05:46
intelikey!info dillo dapper05:46
ubotumozilla-browser: The Mozilla Internet application suite - core and browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.12-1.1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 9658 kB, installed size 29448 kB05:46
ubotudillo: Small and fast web browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.5-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 339 kB, installed size 928 kB05:46
Guilty_as_Sinspeaking of FF..  mine needs some tweaking..05:46
DaSkreechTenerifedave: Maybe you should be in the sudoers file :)05:46
Tenerifedavei think so too, where is it?05:46
Tenerifedavei was in it though thats the thing :-/05:47
dr_willisin /etc with all the other system config files... :)05:47
Tenerifedaveok thanks i'll check it out05:47
dr_willisfirst user made during install is included.05:47
intelikey"29448 kB"   not right.  "30.2MB"  i just checked.  that's the patched one i guess.   takes a little more space.05:47
DaSkreechGuilty_as_Sin: it's a social experiment. If you are into it great if not in 86 years when we are all forced to move our concious minds into a virtual domain run on TCPM then you can stage a protest05:47
Guilty_as_Sinsay wha'05:48
Guilty_as_Sinno protest, just got ma' feet wet is all05:48
Guilty_as_Sinnot my gig05:48
Guilty_as_SinI do think it's a great project..  just needs some fine tuning05:48
Tenerifedavewhat shall I put into the sudoers file? I dont want to muck it up and give me root all the time kinda thing05:49
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dr_willisman sudoers :)05:49
Tenerifedavegood idea05:49
MinatakuHeya, dr_willis05:49
Guilty_as_Sinif I could have got off that lil four island deal they have there for cheapo's like myself..  it might have been fun05:50
MinatakuGuests still there?05:50
dr_willisMinataku,  yep.05:50
Guilty_as_Sin<--cheap by nature... not by heart05:50
Minatakudr_willis: That sucks05:50
dr_willisgot a 5 yr old tagging along my very move... wanting to feed my 'ish'05:50
Minatakuo.O05:50
dr_willishes cute. :) but gets annoying after the first hour05:51
MinatakuHeh05:51
Guilty_as_Sinthat's kinda mean05:51
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Guilty_as_Sinbut totally understand05:51
Guilty_as_SinI have two in diapers05:52
Minatakudr_willis: I'll wait until after they've all left to bother you about the Amigas again05:52
Guilty_as_Sinanyways..  I'm OT  sorry05:52
MinatakuNot counting this instance, of course05:52
Minataku>.>05:52
dr_willisMinataku,  i got a Pool table... you want it... ? :)05:53
MinatakuHaha05:53
Guilty_as_Sinyeah!@05:53
MinatakuThat would cost WAY too much to ship X305:53
dr_willisweighs like 300lb.05:53
Guilty_as_SinI'll take her05:53
MinatakuLet Guilty_as_Sin have it05:53
MinatakuI want those Amigas :305:53
Guilty_as_Sinslate is heavy stuff05:53
emonkey-flb is that pounds?05:53
MinatakuNo, it's "libraries"05:53
Guilty_as_Sinyes05:53
Guilty_as_Sinoic05:54
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MinatakuIt weights 300 libraries05:54
Minatakuj/k05:54
Guilty_as_Sinlmao05:54
Arwenhah05:54
MinatakuYeah, lbs is pounds05:54
emonkey-f05:54
MinatakuBlame Latin05:54
emonkey-fI see GB is here05:54
emonkey-fI'll come to GB in 3 weeks05:54
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Guilty_as_Sin<buys a round for the house>  (because virtual dollars spend so much easier)05:55
MinatakuBut yeah, dr_willis, take your time on those Amigas, I don't want to stress you more than you no doubt already are XD05:56
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DaSkreechGuilty_as_Sin: More things that Second life is good at :)05:58
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Guilty_as_SinDaSkreech What's that?06:02
DaSkreechVirtual Dollars spending easy06:02
Guilty_as_Sinoic06:02
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devnull!wine06:03
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:03
MinatakuI just emerged 0.9.39 :D06:03
Guilty_as_Sinwine is great till you get an EA game (in my experiences alone)06:03
devnullhehe06:03
devnullyeah i've used it before06:03
devnullGot a home design program for my fiance06:03
DaSkreechGuilty_as_Sin: Yeah if Dumb EA would just make NFS and sims work on Linux I could get like 40 peopel to jump ship06:04
devnullAnd don't feel like booting into winblows06:04
DaSkreechdevnull: Really?06:04
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DaSkreechdevnull: Oh I thought You meant one for Linux :-(06:04
rohowhat's the name of the emulator that does everything? something mess06:04
Guilty_as_Sinmy stepdaughter has a sims problem..  do they have a 12 step for that yet?06:04
devnullDaSkreech, I wish man06:04
DaSkreechThere are a whole set of things that should just exist for Linux that don't :(06:04
devnull=(06:04
Guilty_as_SinI went with the *reclaim the other half your hard drive plan myself06:05
Guilty_as_Sinfuke windoze06:05
devnullWell I have 2 drives06:06
devnull80GB linux, 40GB winblows06:06
Guilty_as_Sinstill have it on the wifey's lappy..  but her orbicam don't work..   and her ati graphic card is a total p.i.t.a.06:06
Guilty_as_Sinherherm..  <acer>06:06
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MinatakuHeh06:07
MinatakuI'm still seeing nVidia be the choice06:07
devnullI told my fiance06:07
Guilty_as_Sinyeah.. that is what I have on here06:07
MinatakuThey WANT to make their drivers open, from what I've heard06:07
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devnullWe will not be using windows in our household. You will get used to, learn to like, and use linux. Plain and simple.06:08
Guilty_as_Sinjus' an ole' fx5500 but she's still hittin'06:08
DaSkreechMinataku: Good luck with that :)06:08
MinatakuBut they contracted out and such and are kinda stuck under NDAs06:08
Minatakudevnull: Nice to hear06:08
DaSkreechdevnull: You sound like Ian :)06:08
MinatakuGet a console for gaming06:08
DaSkreechPS3 !!06:08
emonkey-fI hope that the new Intel cards will be much better than the Ati an Nvidia...06:08
devnullhehe06:08
DaSkreechYou can install Linux on it :)06:08
Minataku...06:08
MinatakuThe PS3 is a complete failure06:08
DaSkreechemonkey-f: They will make a heck of a lot more money06:08
MaxdamantusMinataku, no it's not.06:08
MaxdamantusOnly for gaming,.06:09
DaSkreechMinataku: :-P You can install Linux on it :)06:09
devnullI love linux. I love the power behind it, and I love the scalability.06:09
MaxdamantusPeople buy them in bulks for servers and stuff. :d06:09
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DaSkreechMaxdamantus: I heard the Govt bought a bunch to cluster06:09
DaSkreechIBM must be pissed06:09
MaxdamantusLol.06:09
darvi_ummmmmmm06:09
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DaSkreechintelikey: It's Toaster06:09
DaSkreechWITH XML!06:09
MaxdamantusI've booted Linux on my PSP. :d06:10
MaxdamantusNo X though.06:10
MinatakuYeah, because installing Linux on proprietary hardware is a good idea </sarcasm>06:10
MaxdamantusAnd didn't have a keyboard I could attatch to it.06:10
DaSkreechMinataku: Bring on the open source hardware and We will be loving it06:10
evsophomore2009i need to uninstall Quicktime, i tried "Sudo apt-get remove Quicktime" and it didnt work, i also tried "Add & Remove Programs"06:10
evsophomore2009Any Help?"06:10
devnullMinataku, But people buy this stuff. It is their choice what they do with it.06:11
DaSkreech!codecs | evsophomore200906:11
Maxdamantusevsophomore2009, try "quicktime"06:11
DaSkreechdevnull: Not if you ask the guys holding the money when they walk out06:11
MaxdamantusAll packages in Ubuntu are lower case.06:11
MaxdamantusAnd case sensitive.06:11
intelikeyi kinda want to build a linux OBD* reader06:11
DaSkreechOBD ?06:11
intelikeyautomotive obd#06:11
evsophomore2009E: Couldn't find package quicktime06:11
DaSkreechubotu: Wake up!06:11
MaxdamantusAlternatively, in a terminal, try typing "quicktime", then pressing tab twice, incase it's suffixed by some version numbers.06:11
Guilty_as_Sindon't think I've yet to bother w/ quicktime on this particular install06:11
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Maxdamantus"quicktime" is an apt package.06:12
Maxdamantusevsophomore2009, did you install it using apt?06:12
Guilty_as_Sinneed to since my vlc install has yet to handle quicktime06:12
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DaSkreechevsophomore2009: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:12
rocketsAnybody know a good OSX theme06:12
rocketsNOT baghira06:12
byonixhi, do anyone have difficulty joining undernet.org?06:13
DaSkreechMaxdamantus: It is?06:13
evsophomore2009no i installed quicktime during the install of iTunes with Wine, but that didnt work\06:13
intelikey!botsnooze ?06:13
devnullyou could always do: sudo apt-get remove quicktime quicktime-*06:13
Guilty_as_Sinitunes is poop06:13
MaxdamantusDaSkreech, apparently, yes.06:13
devnullthat should probably cover about everything.06:13
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evsophomore2009well i like iTunes06:13
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MaxdamantusWait, no it's not.06:13
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rocketsitunes is great06:13
DaSkreechSorry06:13
evsophomore2009cute06:13
DaSkreechknee jerk reaction :)06:13
Maxdamantusquicktime4linux-utils quicktime-utils quicktime-x11utils06:13
MaxdamantusNetsplit Xd06:14
DaSkreechUbotu :)06:14
evsophomore2009im kinda sick of every sigle person that uses Linux always gives me crap about iTunes06:14
DaSkreechthat would explain that06:14
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evsophomore2009i want it, and dont bitch06:14
evsophomore2009im just asking for help, not your apponion06:14
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intelikeyubotu   was desyncd06:14
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: I won't anymore :)06:14
DaSkreechintelikey: Yeah06:14
rohowell, one thing about itunes is that you can pretty much get any song you want and it's easy.06:14
Guilty_as_Sinnot giving you crap..   just can't imagine there being a reason for it06:14
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evsophomore2009Okay sorry about the attitude06:14
rocketsevsophomore2009: hey, I'm on your side man. I think iTunes owns amarok, rhythmbox, exaile, banshee, etc/06:14
rohomany other mp3 places make you subscribe or put down a minimum balance06:15
evsophomore2009thanks you! i hate Amarok06:15
rohook, now that's where we disagree06:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about was desyncd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:15
evsophomore2009Rockets: Do you know how to install iTunes with Wine? it dosent work for me06:15
rocketsevsophomore2009: Amarok is good in theory, but the interface is SO UGLY06:15
rocketsevsophomore2009: nope never tried, i settled for amarok/rhythmbox06:15
evsophomore2009yeah it is06:15
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intelikey!opsnack06:15
ubotuChocolate!  And Peanuts!06:15
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: The Wine page probably has a walkthrough06:15
TeraDyneevsophomore2009: Why do you hate amarok?06:15
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DaSkreech!botslap06:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:15
evsophomore2009its annoying06:15
rocketsamarok is good its just ugly as hell06:16
DaSkreechWhy isn't that implemented yet :-(06:16
rohoit would be cool if amarok had a buy mp3 thingy06:16
Maxdamantusevsophomore2009, Try crossover-linux06:16
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Ramonis there a way to auto detect my hardware?06:16
evsophomore2009Crossover-linux?06:16
MaxdamantusIt's like Wine, but improved for some products.06:16
Ramonit is not detecting it when it is starting06:16
DaSkreechroho: it does06:16
MaxdamantusiTunes being one of them.06:16
rocketsevsophomore2009: I have crossover, it only supports quicktime not itunes06:16
evsophomore2009how do i get it06:16
TeraDynecrossover office?06:16
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: That's it. I knew there was something that did itunes06:16
MaxdamantusGoogle. :d06:16
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rocketsin fact, kde widgets in general are ugly as hell. I love KDE, I use kubuntu as my main os, but KDE is uuuggggly06:16
rohoDaSkreech: oh? do tell.06:16
MaxdamantusIt's only a 30 day trial though, I think.06:16
DaSkreechRamon: What is it?06:16
Guilty_as_Sinoh yeah, some people do still buy mp3's06:16
DaSkreechroho: It has Magnatune and ... something else06:16
rohoyeah, but magnatune has poor choice06:17
Maxdamantusrockets, why ues KDE then?06:17
rohoi haven't heard of most of the artists on magnatune06:17
DaSkreechrockets: so change them06:17
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DaSkreechroho: that's half of the point :) it's independent06:17
MaxdamantusYou can sort of mix them together too if you want.06:17
rohoyeah, i know06:17
rohoDaSkreech: so what was the "something else"?06:17
MaxdamantusLike have GNOME with the KDE Kicker. :d06:17
rocketsNo, I like KDE :-D06:17
MaxdamantusAnd the desktop of your choice.06:18
rocketsI'm willing to put up with the ugliness for the great applications06:18
Maxdamantus[16:16:24]   <rockets> in fact, kde widgets in general are ugly as hell. I love KDE, I use kubuntu as my main os, but KDE is uuuggggly06:18
Ramondaskreech: the linux box is not detecting my network card06:18
MaxdamantusWhat's ugly about it then?06:18
Ramonor it is not configuring it.. it appears under lspci06:18
crimsunQt4 changes all that.06:18
rocketsMaxdamantus: the way the widgets look makes all KDE apps look cluttered to me06:18
DaSkreechroho: It's in KDE406:18
rocketsAnd I kind of feel like all the apps look like theyre from 199506:18
rohoof course!06:18
rohotease me like that06:18
roho:D06:18
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intelikey!anything06:18
Guilty_as_Sinwidgets are a waste of cpu in my opinion06:18
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.06:18
TeraDynerockets: you can create your own widgets06:18
DaSkreechroho: http://ww.commit-digest.org/issues/latest and grep for amarok06:18
rocketsby widgets i mean the buttons in applications06:19
rocketsyes but im too lazy to create my own widgets06:19
Maxdamantusrockets, you mean the GTK programs run under KDE?06:19
rohogreppage commenced06:19
rocketsno i mean Qt programs under kde06:19
byonixHi, i'm in college, major in accounting, anyone knows about, audit software in kubuntu, like ACL06:19
rocketsGTK programs I use the Human style with and they look fine06:19
rohoDaSkreech: that domain is dead06:19
byonixor something06:19
Maxdamantus...06:19
DaSkreechroho: add another w06:19
MaxdamantusThey don't look like 1995 to me.06:19
rocketsI use KDE despite my opinions on it, because I like the way it works in general.06:19
rohooh06:19
rohoheh06:19
MaxdamantusDefault widgets from Kubuntu 7.04, with a different colour look cool.06:19
MaxdamantusWith the slow mouseover animation.06:20
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rocketsthat animation is cool i agree06:20
Guilty_as_Sinkde is crispy clean..  thank you to the all of you that make that possible06:20
DaSkreechbyonix: Audit as in accounting ?06:20
DaSkreechor audit as in Securoty ?06:20
MaxdamantusIn 1995, widgets were boxes.06:20
MaxdamantusLike Windows 95 for example.06:20
DaSkreech!network06:20
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:20
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MaxdamantusKDE had widgets like that too at that time.06:20
rocketsKDE is about as crispy as win98 with fading buttons06:20
DaSkreechIs there a troubleshooter page for networking cards ?06:20
DaSkreechRamon: how do you know it's gone ?06:21
rocketsmaybe there is a !network06:21
rockets!network06:21
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:21
Guilty_as_Sinnow that is interesting06:21
DaSkreechRamon: do you see it when you do a sudo ifconfig -a ?06:21
rocketsapparently not06:21
Maxdamantushttp://maxdamantus.uni.cc/upload/usruploads/widgets.png06:23
Maxdamantus^^ How does that look like Win 98?06:23
wsjuniorguys i have a problem with my touchpad here. some time after log in into kde the scroll stop working and i need to switch to a virtual terminal and then come back to x session to have it working again. it seems it is a reported bug, does anybody know a fix for this?06:24
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evsophomore2009umm i need help running Amarok with my iPod06:24
evsophomore2009since i CANT use iTunes06:24
TeraDyneevsophomore2009: can you be more specific?06:24
evsophomore2009how do i open my ipod on amarok...like it dosent even show its connected06:24
evsophomore2009yet it is, and the iPod is on my desktop06:24
intelikeyhmmm  "ipod" ?????? "earpod" ?06:25
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evsophomore2009what?06:25
intelikeynothing06:26
rocketsevsophomore2009: try going to the settings and hit the autodetect devices button while its plugged in06:27
rocketssorry, to be more clear, i mean the settings for amarok, and while the ipod is plugged into the pc06:27
wsjuniorguys i have a problem with my touchpad here. some time after log in into kde the scroll stop working and i need to switch to a virtual terminal and then come back to x session to have it working again. it seems it is a reported bug, does anybody know a fix for this?06:27
rocketsautodetect devices is a one time button, not a checkbox/setting, but it is in settings for whatever reason06:27
DaSkreechevsophomore2009: I think it should be under the devices tab06:27
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evsophomore2009Media Device: iPod mounted at /media/EVJUNIOR200 already locked. If you are sure that this is an error, then remove the file /media/EVJUNIOR200/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesLock and try again.06:28
Guilty_as_Sinall I know about touchpad problems is a link for disabling touchpad..  interest you at all?06:28
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evsophomore2009im lost06:28
wsjuniorGuilty_as_Sin: no. i prefer to use my touchpad than other mouse06:29
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Guilty_as_SinI figured06:29
wsjuniorits damn odd06:29
rocketsYeah, I'm so used to the touchpad now06:29
stdinevsophomore2009: that means that iTunes "locked" the iPod database (or rather didn't unlock it)06:29
rocketsI use a laptop 24/706:29
Maxdamantusrockets, do you ever sleep/eat/drink/(school|work)?06:29
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Guilty_as_Sinbrb..  my baby just got a pankin'06:30
wsjuniori cant figure out why it stop working and only way to get it back is switching to a vt and come back to x session06:30
byonixany audit softwares (accounting) in kubuntu?06:30
evsophomore2009How do i Unlock it?06:30
rocketsMaxdamantus: very funny06:30
TeraDyneevsophomore2009: go into a terminal and put in "rm /media/EVJUNIOR200/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesLock"06:30
rocketsHey great news guys!06:30
DaSkreechbyonix: try kmymoney206:30
DaSkreechit's really personal accounting06:30
rocketsIt looks like the latest proprietary ATI driver has basic support for the composite extension!06:30
DaSkreechthe only thing close to heavy duty accoutnign I know of is Gnucash06:31
TeraDynethat should remove the lock and let amarok detect the ipod06:31
TeraDynesorry for the delay. In the middle of a pokemon battle. >_>;06:32
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byonixanyone knows about calc manual, specially about its function in financial,statistics,data analysis?06:34
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DaSkreechcalc manual ?06:34
TeraDyneDaSkreech: that's what I was about to ask06:35
DaSkreechramon?06:35
byonixyes, the spreadsheet, like some books that i could download06:36
DaSkreechoh OO.o calc06:36
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DaSkreechoooooooooo calc06:37
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DaSkreechbyonix: Have you looked at the functions in it? As far as I know it has a lot of them built in and ready to go06:37
intelikeyhttp://tinyurl.com/ytmv5z06:37
TeraDynebyonix: http://documentation.openoffice.org/06:38
TeraDynecheck there06:38
byonixin process06:38
DaSkreechMy friend is an accountant and switched over to Linux cause of Oo.o06:38
DaSkreechHe says it's much easier to do his work in it06:38
dr_willisHmm oo.o runs under windows also. :)06:40
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sebastian23hello06:41
intelikeyyes but it's not "easier to do things" in windows   :)06:41
sebastian23i need some help please. How do I configure the scrolling area in my synaptics touchpad?06:41
TeraDynedr_willis: But it loads like a slug there. I would know, I have a dual core x64 with 1GB RAM on my desktop with winXP, and my 3 year old laptop running Kubuntu compile it before it loads on winXP06:42
byonixDaSkreech : i want to know more about your friend experiences, can i contact him/her?06:42
TeraDynecan* compile it.06:42
DaSkreechbyonix: Sure give me a contact and I'll let them get in contact06:42
DaSkreechdr_willis: but compiz doesn't06:43
DaSkreechdr_willis: he had a reaaaaly old machine (couldn't run windows XP) it can run Ubuntu and compiz though06:43
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DaSkreech!touchpad06:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:43
DaSkreechHmm06:43
DaSkreech!find touchpad06:44
TeraDyne*thud* why won't SeaMonkey COMPILE?!?06:44
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ubotuFile touchpad found in acpi-support06:44
sebastian23!acpi-support06:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about acpi-support - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:44
rohothe best thing about linux is that if you want something to work, you have to learn everything about it and ask questions all over the internet06:45
sebastian23thanks DaSkreech06:45
DaSkreechsebastian23: There is a thingy :) I'm trying to remember the name of the package where you can configure taht stuff06:45
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DaSkreechroho: yeah and after that it works for years06:46
DaSkreechOr at least till your next dist-upgrade :_) but then you actually know how to fix it06:46
rohoit's also the main reason why normal folks don't use it06:46
rohooh well06:46
rohoDaSkreech: or you have a new problem! haha06:46
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TeraDyneDaSkreech: I don't dist-upgrade. I just do a fresh install, or leave it alone if it's slackware.06:47
rohoi drink several shots of vodka06:47
sebastian23DaSkreech: I tried gsynaptics but there isn't a way to configre the size of the scroll area06:47
DaSkreech!info ksynaptics06:47
ubotuksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 209 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)06:47
DaSkreech:-D06:47
TeraDyneroho: If I tried that, I wouldn't be able to keep my food down for weeks.06:48
DaSkreechroho: I'm guessing you gave a problem :)06:48
rohonah06:48
rohoi don't drink really06:48
rohoi'm just frustrated with a couple problems i don't know how to fix06:48
rohoso i made some ramen06:48
DaSkreechroho: I meant with linux :)06:48
rohoheh06:48
DaSkreech./configure && make ramen06:49
rohoDaSkreech: well, the system is stable and everything, just some things i'm working on are tough06:49
TeraDyneroho: even the smell of alcohol or wine makes me sick.06:49
rohoTeraDyne: sorry to hear that06:49
TeraDyneRamen... Yum.06:49
TeraDyneroho: don't be. It gives me an advantage in driving tests. XD06:49
DaSkreechand trapeze artist showowns06:50
DaSkreechroho: care to share ?06:50
sebastian23thanks again DaSkreech i will give it a try06:50
rohoshare ramen or my linux problems?06:50
Tm_Tintelikey: hum06:50
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TeraDyneroho: both, hopefully.06:51
DaSkreechroho: First one then the other06:52
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TeraDynehmm... it's 11:51 pm here. I wonder if I'd get yelled at for cooking some ramen.06:52
rohoDaSkreech: eh, you can have the ramen. i'm done messing with this system for the day06:52
intelikeyTm_T yo   ?06:52
DaSkreechroho: What's the problem?06:53
rohowell, the one that's taken the majority of my time today is with nxserver06:53
rohoit worked perfectly yesterday06:53
rohonow it's dropping connections and spewing really strange output06:53
rohono one has any idea what's wrong, and the people in #nx are *silent*. like all day today.06:54
DaSkreechHa ha :-)06:55
DaSkreechSorry set up nx once and it's been fine since that06:55
rohothe ramen, on the other hand, is hot and shrimp-flavored. its only problem is that it's too hot to eat at the moment.06:55
rohoDaSkreech: i know! that's how it was yesterday. and now i'm HOOKED! vnc will never be the same again :(06:55
rohoDaSkreech: well, i'll dump the output in a pastebin. just check it out and if something immediately stands out, let me know06:56
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DaSkreechkk06:56
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egonhello06:56
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DaSkreechI'll tell you about it tomorrow06:56
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rohoalright, one sec.06:57
egonhow can i get systemrights so rename or edit some files? :(06:57
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stdin!sudo | egon06:57
ubotuegon: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:57
rocketsAnybody tried out google desktop for linux yet?06:57
egoni know but when i want to rename a system file wath do i have to do?06:57
intelikeywops and hops others    :)06:58
rohoDaSkreech: http://sial.org/pbot/2585706:58
bob_sinclairegon: use mv06:58
stdinegon: in console "sudo mv /path/to/oldname /path/to/newname" , for a GUI run "kdesu konqueror"06:58
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Tenerifedavehey everyone....does anybody know how to clean ntfs partitions in ubuntu?06:59
bob_sinclairclean?06:59
Tenerifedaveyep06:59
rohoformat you mean?06:59
Tenerifedaveno06:59
bob_sinclairdo you mean check for errors?06:59
Tenerifedaveclean lol06:59
Tenerifedavethats the one06:59
bob_sinclairwhat does cleaning do?06:59
bob_sinclairoh07:00
Tenerifedavecheck for errors and clean them07:00
bob_sinclairfix07:00
bob_sinclairyou don't clean an error :)07:00
Tenerifedaveyeah, same thing07:00
bob_sinclairits not07:00
bob_sinclair!info dosfstools07:01
ubotudosfstools: Utilities to create and check MS-DOS FAT filesystems. In component main, is standard. Version 2.11-2.1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 52 kB, installed size 144 kB07:01
bob_sinclairnot sure if they support ntfs07:01
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Tenerifedaveah right ok07:01
intelikeysymantic pedantic07:01
roho!find ntfs07:01
ubotuFound: libntfs-dev, libntfs9, ntfsprogs, libntfs-3g-dev, libntfs-3g0 (and 4 others)07:01
rohomaybe ntfsprogs07:01
bob_sinclair!info ntfsprogs07:01
ubotuntfsprogs: tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.13.1-6 (feisty), package size 267 kB, installed size 700 kB07:01
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rohothat's probably it07:01
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Tenerifedavetried ntfsprogs, got it installed but dunno how to run it07:01
Tenerifedavedoesnt run under the command ntfsprogs07:02
rohoit's a collection of programs07:02
egonthx07:02
sebastian23DaSkreech : It worked! (ksynaptics). Thank you very much07:02
Tenerifedaveoh right07:02
rocketsWhats the beagle equivalent for KDE07:02
stdinTenerifedave: you run the command "ntfsfix" look at "man ntfsfix"07:02
egonand wath do i have to do when i want to edit some files?07:02
rohosee www.linux-ntfs.org07:02
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Tenerifedaveahh ok07:02
intelikeymy macnanic always uses his tool box to fix my car07:02
Tenerifedavethanks stdin and roho07:02
byonixi have an installjammer software, how to use it?, i tried no success07:02
stdinegon: right click it and choose "actions -> edit as root"07:02
TeraDynestdin: kerry, IIRC07:03
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bob_sinclairTenerifedave: have a look at apt:/show?ntfsprogs in konqueror it tells you there how to run07:03
bob_sinclairntfsfix07:03
egonhmm i cant choos it xD07:04
TeraDyne!info kerry | stdin07:04
bob_sinclairi just tried a sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda307:04
ubotustdin: kerry: a KDE frontend for the Beagle desktop search daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.2.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 291 kB, installed size 1360 kB07:04
stdinTeraDyne: ???07:04
TeraDynesorry. I ment rockets07:04
egononly e.mail and bluetooth07:04
egonxD07:04
DaSkreechsebastian23: glad to help07:04
egonno open with root :(07:04
TeraDyneI've been staring at the dang screen too long. Lines are starting to blur together07:05
rocketsTeraDyne: ubotu "doesn't know anything about info07:05
stdinegon: hmm, well you can always just open kate as root with "kdesu kate"07:05
intelikey"you can always"  ?07:05
TeraDynerockets: you need to add a package name after "info"07:06
rocketso yeah07:06
rocketshmm. cat vs kerry07:06
Carutsuintelikey hasn't said anything vey /inteligent/ in all his sentences07:06
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TeraDyneanyone know what I need to get the X headers?07:08
TeraDyneneed it for SeaMonkey07:08
stdin!xincludes07:08
ubotuWhen a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev07:08
dr_willisxorg-dev sounds right07:08
stdinTeraDyne: xorg-dev is the one you want07:08
TeraDynethanks07:08
TeraDyneboth of you07:08
rocketsAh I like Beagle, so I'll use Kerry07:09
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intelikeyactually there are two.   xorg-dev - the X.Org development libraries07:09
intelikeyxserver-xorg-dev - X.Org X server -- development files07:09
TeraDyneI'll just install both07:10
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stdinxorg-dev depends on xserver-xorg-dev07:10
sebastian23I have another question if anyone could help me please. How do I change the colors of the contact list background in kopete?07:11
rocketsthe kerry shortcuts arent working?07:11
rockets:-(07:11
stdinsebastian23: in kopete settings, appearance tab -> colors & fints07:12
TeraDynestdin: fints?07:13
stdin*fonts07:13
DaSkreechrockets: strigi I guess07:14
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rocketsIs there a way to make X restart automatically after I logout07:16
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intelikeyrockets using gdm there is a setting in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf  that forces restart of xorg when users logout.   kde may have the same in /etc/kde?/kdm* ????07:17
rocketsintelikey: yeah I know about gdm but this is kd,07:18
rocketskdm07:18
rocketsmy whole computer locks up without that setting, when i log out07:18
rocketsX doesnt restart and cant use ctrl-alt-F* to get a terminal07:18
intelikeyi stay away from kdm cause it writes to /root and does a few other wierd things.07:19
intelikeyrockets let me guess   tosheba ?07:19
eagles0513875hobbsee morning07:19
rocketsintelikey: dell07:19
intelikeywith ati chips ?07:19
rocketsyup.07:19
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rocketsIt works fine if I disable fglrx but thats not an option07:20
rocketsmy card is too new to have 3d acceleration with the open source driver07:20
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rocketsintelikey: guess I'm logging out with ctrl-alt-backspace then07:20
sebastian23stdin: but there's no option to change the colors of the contact list or the color of the fonts of the contact list07:20
stdinsebastian23: it's the background color07:21
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theRealballchalkhttp://www.sun.com/software/solaris/hatsoff/index.html?cid=25101507:21
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intelikeyrockets well i haven't found an acceptable answer to that one yet.     are you running 64bit or 32bit system ?07:21
rockets32 bit07:22
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sebastian23stdin: no it's not. the background color changes the color of the chat window07:22
rocketshmm07:22
intelikeyyeah.    i tried both.   64 seems worse.   but 32 is not "right" so   idk.  if i come up with anything i'll give a yell07:22
rocketsif i could find a way to do /etc/init.d/kdm restart on logout07:23
rocketsthat might work07:23
rocketsheh thanks07:23
rocketssame here07:23
eagles0513875hobbs i send ya pm dont know whether u got it07:23
intelikeyrockets why not use gdm ?07:23
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rocketsintelikey: eh. . . because thats not really a fix07:23
sebastian23stdin: can i send you a screenshot?07:23
rocketsits a workaround07:23
eagles0513875intelikey: waht u having problems with07:23
rocketsI'm using KDE, I should be able to use KDM07:23
stdinsebastian23: I don't use kopete, that was just from memory07:23
rocketsa new ati driver just came out, should be in feisty07:23
rocketsthat might help07:23
stdinrockets: maybe ask in #kde ?07:24
rocketsi mean gutsy07:24
rocketsstdin: good idea!07:24
intelikeyrockets that doesn't matter.    the ?dm has little or nothing to do with the desktop env.07:24
eagles0513875rockets was it u who asked if kde 3.5 when it was going to be released07:24
stdinintelikey: KDE may not be able to shutdown/restart from the logout menu with gdm07:24
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intelikeystdin why not ?  does for me07:25
sebastian23stdin: thanks anyway07:25
bryanintelikey- waz up07:25
sebastian23anyone who can help me please07:25
intelikeybryan nothing new07:25
stdinintelikey: it did, then it didn't, not sure about the current state of that bug07:25
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intelikeystdin oh.  that's fiesty specific ?07:26
bryanintelikey-I'm back former name ubuntu from yesterday07:26
rocketsintelikey: I think i found it, hold on07:26
intelikeybryan yeah.   that was ubuntu_ wasn't it ?    hows the war ?07:26
stdinintelikey: I think it's actually kde-3.5.6 specific07:26
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bryanintelikey- had to reinstall but was able to get important files out using xp07:27
rocketsintelikey: I got it!07:27
intelikeyrockets locale ?07:28
rocketsintelikey: no, i got the x server restart with kdm07:28
intelikeyheh  yeah i mean where?07:28
rocketsTerminateServer=true in the kdmrc file07:29
rocketsin the X-*-core section07:29
intelikeyok.  makes sense07:29
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rockets[x-*-core] 07:29
bryanintelikey- new problem. I was not able to install ENVY like I did last time to install my nvidia 7900 gt. Get ERROR 403: Forbidden07:30
rocketsI think I'm going to set up a wiki to store all the answers i find. publicly accessible but not editable07:30
intelikeythat string basicly tells xorg that the terminal it was displaying on has "just dropped of the face of the earth" so to speak rockets07:30
eagles0513875lol im working on a website rockets with simplified how to's that i have been given07:31
rocketseagles0513875: yup07:31
rocketsintelikey: heh07:31
rocketsim about to test it07:31
eagles0513875hobbs everything ok07:31
bryanintelikey- anything on my issue?07:32
intelikeybryan hmmm that's network.  running it as root ?   some server setups wont allow root.     i'm not really familear with envy tho.07:32
rocketsbrb07:32
intelikeyyou hope07:32
intelikey:)07:32
bryanhow do I know if I'm running on root?07:33
stdinbryan: run "whoami"07:33
intelikeybryan did you say  sudo envy  or something ?07:33
intelikeystdin # whoami07:33
intelikeystdout07:34
stdinbryan: but that looks like a remote http error07:34
bryanThis is what is says todo:07:34
bryanwget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/07:34
bryanenvy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb07:34
bryansudo dpkg -i envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb07:34
intelikeyyeah that's a network error.07:35
bryanfrom my side?07:35
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intelikeyand if that's the instructions for install then i'll assume that you have to run it as root.     so.   1 the server was down.  2 the server admin tightened security  3 intelikey has no clue 4 other07:36
rocketsintelikey: It worked! Its a freaking miracle.07:36
rocketsActually no, its google.07:36
stdinbryan: make sure you put "wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/" and "envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb" on the same line07:36
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stdinbryan: ie: "http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb07:36
bryanstdin-? I get errors07:37
intelikeystdin if that's a line break you nailed.  i just thought the irc client had to break the string some place.07:37
intelikeywget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb07:38
stdinintelikey: the URL came through as 2 messages here07:38
intelikeyone line.07:38
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intelikeystdin yes thats what i'm saying.  you saw the line break.  i didn't      good eye.07:39
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stdinintelikey: widescreen display in X helps :p07:40
TeraDyne_great. I'm listed twice07:40
TeraDyne_Ok, need some help. hold on, as this will be a little long07:40
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intelikeyTeraDyne_ ..................................................................................................07:40
TeraDyne_Basicly, the entire laptop came to a crashing death while I was compiling SeaMonkey. Is there any way I can find out what happened?07:41
bryanhttp://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.5-0ubuntu5_all.deb is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.07:41
bryanis what I get when I click on it07:42
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stdinbryan: use that URL with wget, or right-click and choose "save-as"07:42
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TeraDyneAnyone know what log to look at to find out why everything just died suddenly, forcing me to restart?07:43
bryanthax that help07:44
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intelikeyTeraDyne assuming there is a message.  /var/log/Xorg.* or /var/log/{messages,ksymoops/*}   i doubt that there is a message if it just crashed hard.07:45
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TeraDyneintelikey: Ok. Yeah, it was a hard crash. Everything just went *poof*.07:46
intelikeyyah that don't leave the kernel time to write to disk really07:47
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TeraDyneintelikey: that's what worries me. it was writting to disk when it happened.07:47
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intelikeye2fsck07:48
TeraDyneintelikey: another odd thing is that I didn't have X when I rebooted. KDMwouldn't load.07:48
bryanintelikey- it ask for package module-assistant07:49
TeraDyneI did. It checked out.07:49
intelikeynot so odd  lock files not removed TeraDyne07:49
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intelikey!module-assistant07:49
intelikey!info module-assistant07:50
ubotumodule-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.10 (feisty), package size 86 kB, installed size 428 kB07:50
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intelikeybryan it's in universe.    sudo apt-get install module-assistant07:50
TeraDyneintelikey: ah. good point.07:50
TeraDynenow, to start the comipile... again... *thud*07:50
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intelikeyso i may end up installing windo...07:52
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intelikeyand a change of occupation.07:53
bryanno it says that packages have unmet dependencies did not install some07:54
intelikeybryan   sudo apt-get install -f07:54
intelikeythen pastebin any errors it through07:54
TeraDyneintelikey: doesn't anyone use aptitude?07:54
intelikeyyeah everyone in #debian07:55
intelikey:)07:55
TeraDyne*note to self, clear the dang line*07:55
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TeraDyneintelikey: I use aptitude, just because it makes it easier to remove things later.07:56
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TeraDyneO_O;07:57
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DaSkreechTeraDyne: Ha ha Play more games :)07:57
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intelikeymodem reset07:58
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TeraDyneDaSkreech: I am. Pokemon Battle Revolution, .hack, and Turok 2, to be exact07:58
DaSkreechFF1 FTW!07:58
DaSkreechWhich .hack ?07:58
TeraDyneFFT FTW! But enough offtopic07:59
rocketsIs there a way to quickly enable compiz in kubuntu, like you can in ubuntu07:59
rocketswith the checkboxes07:59
kalorin`!ati07:59
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:59
DaSkreechI hear that they are making a new game for PS3. Many bets are up as to wethere or not it's a new .hack07:59
TeraDyneDaSkreech: .hack//infection and .hack//G.U. vol 207:59
rocketsi have the ati driver already08:00
rocketsim asking about the "enable desktop effects" dialouge that ubuntu has08:00
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intelikeybother says poo.   i gota regrub this thing. E 2108:00
DaSkreechE is at version 21 now? Damn I miss a lot :(08:01
intelikeynot E21  E: 2108:01
TeraDyneError 21?08:01
intelikeygrub error  yeah08:01
TeraDyneah08:02
DaSkreechWait08:02
DaSkreechThe machine you are on just threw a grub error?08:02
DaSkreechor the machine you are installing Windows on?08:02
TeraDyneDaSkreech: if he was still chatting from a machine that threw out a grub error, I'd say he's a miracle worker.08:03
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DaSkreechYeah I know :)08:03
intelikeyDaSkreech one of the machines i'm on.08:04
TeraDyneIf this compile fails, I'm going to chuck my wiimote, and probably the system, at my laptop.08:05
eagles0513875dont do that dude08:06
eagles0513875wiis r still vry hard to come by at least where i live lol08:06
TeraDyneeagles0513875: True. I shouldn't forget about that.08:06
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eagles0513875if u do all i got to say is gd luck finding a replacement lol08:07
DaSkreechPLus you can use the wiimote as a mouse :)08:07
TeraDyneStill, 6 failed compiles, and one that might have succeded.08:08
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eagles0513875if the compile fails then there is a problem in the programming code08:08
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TeraDyneeagles0513875: no, firts one was due to missing libgtk2.0-dev, and the rest were because I forgot to grab the X headers.08:09
eagles0513875ahhh but then again that could always be a possibility lol08:09
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intelikeya computer is better that a wife.08:13
intelikeyat least better at ticking me off....08:14
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Daisuke_Ido"can your wife stop popups?  no.  can a computer show you naked women?  yes."08:14
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intelikeyoh yes she can.  you never met her.08:15
intelikey:)08:15
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TeraDyneI knew Seamonkey had everything, but I didn't expect the Kitchen Sink as well08:19
TeraDyneSorry, couldn't resist.08:20
intelikeythey just thew that in for balest08:20
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TeraDyneintelikey: balest?08:20
intelikey</sp!>08:20
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TeraDynebalence?08:21
TeraDynebalance*08:21
Kr00lplatinumdoes anyone know how log a ban in #ubuntu last?08:21
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TeraDyneKr00lplatinum: no idea. What did you get banned for?08:21
Kr00lplatinumAFK08:21
Kr00lplatinumfor a few hours08:22
Tm_Tthat's not ban reason08:22
Kr00lplatinumthat's all i did08:22
Tm_TKr00lplatinum: #ubuntu-ops for this08:22
Kr00lplatinumTHX to all08:22
intelikeyTeraDyne not balence balest   "the work about the same tho"08:23
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TeraDyneintelikey: ok... I think I understand.08:23
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Kr00lplatinumthere is no one at #ubuntu-ops. Any ideas?08:24
Tm_TKr00lplatinum: there is, I'm there08:25
Tm_Tas many others08:25
Kr00lplatinumI don't see ya08:25
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Kr00lplatinum## or just #08:25
kizsarihai08:25
Tm_TKr00lplatinum: just # ofcourse08:25
Kr00lplatinumyeah08:25
Kr00lplatinumthx08:25
intelikeyKr00lplatinum until the oper that set the ban removes it.  or some other op if it seems good to them to remove it.   i was banned for #ubuntu for over a month08:25
TeraDyneintelikey: what did you do to deserve that?08:26
intelikeytold an op that he was wrong about   sudo -i   and sudo su -  not achieving the same end result        'some times it's not good to correct people'08:27
TeraDyneif that's true... Jeez... Makes me wonder how friendly they really are...08:28
intelikeysome in there are extreemly #perl + #debian oriented   if you can declue that.08:28
intelikeyand it realy doesn't hurt to ban a dozen people from a channel with over a thousand in it...08:29
intelikeyeven if they just spell their name funny...08:29
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intelikeyi'm a bit of a non-conformest anyway i guess.   i'm one of those people that believe that "speed limit" means upper limit not lower limit  :)08:30
TeraDyneO_O;08:30
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TeraDyneSeeing as I don't have my DL yet, I always drive the speed limit.08:31
TeraDyneMaybe I should clarify myself. I have a learner's permit, but no driver's license.08:32
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intelikeylike millions.  but speed limit means 'do not achieve this rate!"  heh.  so if you always drive below the limit.....08:32
TeraDyneyou drive below the limit here, you'll probably end up in an accident very quickly.08:33
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intelikeyif automobiles had auto distruct devices that went off if you exceeded the limit  people would all obay the posted speed limits  :)      {not that i'm for that mind you.}08:34
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TeraDyneintelikey: No, but something that beats the driver for going 20 above, I'm all for that.08:36
intelikeyTeraDyne yeah. i understand hazardous conditions, conjested traffic; and so forth.    but it was just the point.08:36
intelikeyTeraDyne that's called a wife !08:36
intelikey:)08:36
intelikeyor in your case "mother" maybe.08:37
TeraDyneintelikey: I live with my parents. I don't have a wife.08:37
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eagles0513875hobbsee can u pm me for a min i need to ask ya something08:37
TeraDyneI'm actually 21, but the state that my parents are in show me that they need me here. >_>;08:38
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intelikeyoh state not State     duh08:38
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TeraDyneMother's blind, no father (even blank on my birth certificate), and two grandparents in bad health, so I try to help out as much as possible.08:39
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intelikeyTeraDyne sorry to head that.   truely i didn't mean to get personal.   just a play on words; to state the state of the languate in this state...08:41
intelikeyit's terrable08:41
Nergarhello, i'm compiling from source k3b but  ./configure fails because: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.08:41
NergarSoth, check this please and use another prefix!08:41
eagles0513875!kde headers08:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kde headers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:42
TeraDyneintelikey: I don't take offense. Heck, It's rare when I get angry with anyone.08:42
eagles0513875nergar search in adept there must be a kde headers pkg08:42
TeraDyneintelikey: So no harm done.08:42
TeraDynehold on, I think I remember the kde dev package name08:43
Nergarok08:43
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intelikeykdebase-dev ?08:43
intelikeyor  kde-devel08:43
gnomefreakNergar: sudo apt-get build-dep k3b08:44
TeraDyneno, it's kdelibs or something like that.08:44
gnomefreakNergar: that command will get you everything you need08:44
gnomefreaklet apt do the work for you :)08:45
intelikeythat's cheeting.08:45
Nergaryes08:45
intelikeydselect it08:45
gnomefreakcheating would be apt-get source k3b -b08:46
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intelikeywrite your own binaries with  11011101010100101008:47
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deadenmore like hex08:50
intelikeyoct08:50
intelikeyrwxr-xr-x cot08:51
intelikeyoct even08:51
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intelikeyperms  rwsrwsrwt  ?09:01
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rathelI need help with Amarok, it's not displaying my saved playlist, if I make a new playlist and save it as the same name it'll ask to overwrite, but it doesn't show up in the playlist panel.09:02
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TeraDynerathel: I had this problem once before. Just import the playlist from "~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/playlists" and it should stay there.09:06
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rathelTeraDyne: Aw, thank ya. :)09:07
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TeraDynerathel: no problem09:08
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intelikeyi really don't like having to hold a button in for 10 seconds before it does anything.  why do they not still put a manual reset button on computers ???09:19
TeraDyneintelikey: Because that would be the easy way out.09:20
intelikeycheeting ?09:20
intelikey:)09:20
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darkrift411anyone know a linux program that writes lightscribe?09:22
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Ace2016can't k3b do lightescribe09:23
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Ace2016http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=1080309:24
Ace2016its free09:24
Ace2016darkrift411: check out the link09:25
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TeraDyneFinally. SeaMonkey is installed!09:34
Ace2016you should have done sudo checkinstall -D its easier to remove :D09:35
TeraDyneAce2016: I tried. It failed everytime.09:36
Ace2016tried doing sudo make install and then sudo checkinstall -D09:36
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TeraDyneAh, it's working now. thanks.09:38
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icecruncheris is ok for me to remove th kubuntu-desktop package? it's my only desktop and i'm running it right now09:43
icecruncherwhat I really wanted to do was uninstall kmail09:43
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Ace2016yea you can remove kubuntu-desktop09:44
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icecrunchernot important?09:44
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Ace2016its there so that when you install kubuntu-desktop its dependancies get installed, and the deps are the desktop and stuff,09:45
TeraDynenope. it failed.09:45
Ace2016installing kubuntu-desktop just means you don't have to install lots of individual packages thats it09:45
Ace2016what failed?09:46
TeraDynethe checkinstall09:46
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Ace2016how did it fail? during the installing part? did you have the package manager open at the same time?09:47
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TeraDyneIt got to to a certian part of the install and errored out. No, I only had my terminal and Konversation open.09:48
Ace2016oh ok09:49
Ace2016did the sudo make install work?09:49
TeraDyneyes.09:49
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PrabuMahaAnu!mono10:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mono - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:12
PrabuMahaAnudid kubuntu support Mono?10:12
PrabuMahaAnuhow to install Mono In Kubuntu10:13
PrabuMahaAnusudo apt-get install mono10:13
PrabuMahaAnu?10:13
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Admiral_Chicago.qin We did it again. After another *really* long session of super-tag-team play with Davem coding as hell and me testing like crazy we finally managed to do a full install of Linux (based on Debian/Ubuntu installer) on SUN's LDOM as guest host (similar to domU concept of Xen).10:17
Admiral_Chicagoah crap10:18
Admiral_Chicagosorry about that.10:18
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sercikfedora10:37
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sustandHello everyone atkubuntu10:42
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sustandHi Ray-10:44
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sustandHello everyone10:46
pag!hi | sustand10:46
ubotusustand: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!10:46
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sustandHi pag10:47
eagles0513875this is taking ages my isp is really starting to piss me off10:48
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sustandWhats taking ages, eagles051387510:51
eagles0513875im trying to upgrade to gutsy to help test the 64bit version out10:52
eagles0513875download speed r that of 56k and im on a 2mb cable connection10:52
eagles0513875brb10:52
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sustandHmmm10:52
ReK_!sound10:52
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP310:52
sustandThats bad10:52
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sustandISP speeds are variable these days10:52
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eagles0513875not this one10:53
eagles0513875this one i might as well be on dialup and if it was dialup i wouldnt be on the internet with linux cuz i have no earthly ide on how to set up 56k lol10:53
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sustandMy ISP says the speed can be anywhere from 256kbps to 2Mbps10:55
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sustandhmm10:57
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bjwebbhi, is it possible to get a search box for beagle on the kmenu or panel?10:58
eagles0513875i think mine is the same10:58
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gemidjywhat is the name of the application that takes care of laptop battery & stuff in feisty ?11:00
smiley_How can I get information what chipser for nvidia grapgic card do I have ??11:01
gemidjysmiley_: lspci11:01
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eagles0513875gemidjy: its called power manager11:06
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darkrift411anyone know how i do /me in kopete?11:08
eagles0513875nope11:08
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alexshenoywhy does kopete suck so much11:11
eagles0513875dunno11:11
lanboyhmm11:11
eagles0513875im slowly upgrading to gutsy to help test it out11:11
lanboyhow'd i get here11:11
eagles0513875lol11:11
ReK_what the pkg for the kernel headers?11:12
eagles0513875i dont know whether the version in gutsy has gotten a facelift11:12
alexshenoyi mean i am using all kde applications except for pidgin and firefox11:12
alexshenoyand gimp11:12
lanboyi just started konversation11:12
eagles0513875lol11:12
lanboyand hit enter cos i was cleaning my keyboard11:12
eagles0513875ReK_: in shell type apt-cache search kernel header11:12
eagles0513875same here alexshenoy11:12
ReK_no net conection on the linux partition11:12
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ReK_i need them to try and solve that :/11:12
drgonzohello all11:12
eagles0513875u not on broadband ReK_11:12
ReK_i need to dl them manually on my windows side11:13
eagles0513875what kind of connection do u have ReK_11:13
drgonzocan i use kdescreensavers with gnome?11:13
ReK_no, madwifi wont behave11:13
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eagles0513875mad wifi?11:13
eagles0513875!madwifi11:13
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs11:13
alexshenoyi need help with kscreensaver11:13
eagles0513875ur on wireless ReK_11:13
ReK_yes11:13
eagles0513875and what version r u using11:13
eagles0513875feisty or edgy11:13
drgonzois kdscreensaver a frontend for xscreensavers?11:13
eagles0513875or something older than that11:13
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alexshenoyit wont show up on its own.. like the screensavers work when i lock the screen, but it wont come up when my system is idle.11:14
ReK_the default with feisty. it refuses to load though, so im trying to compile 9.3.1, hence needed the kernel headers11:14
GerritWhen I open the lid of my notebook, lid.sh uses 100% CPU for a LONG time. Can I safely kill it?11:14
eagles0513875rek hold up a sec11:14
eagles0513875is urs an internal wireless card11:14
ReK_yes11:14
eagles0513875is it a broadcom 43xx card11:15
GerritIt's using 100% cpu for 20 minutes now.11:15
ReK_laptop, cant really replace it with a more foss-friendly one11:15
ReK_atheros 5005g11:15
eagles0513875have u gone to the website to c if they have any linux drivers11:15
ReK_its officially unsupported by madwifi, yet someone with the exact model of my laptop said he got it working...11:15
ReK_madwifi is the open driver for it11:16
eagles0513875ok is that a windows driver11:16
GerritHmm.11:16
ReK_no...11:16
darkrift411i find something new each day to play with on linux11:16
eagles0513875cuz there is a way u can do that using a windows driver and ndiswrapper11:16
darkrift411now if only superkaramba worked halfway decent11:16
ReK_ndiswrapper is fail11:16
ReK_tried that back in edgy11:16
darkrift411i had an awesome theme for it, but it wont stay loaded11:16
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eagles0513875ReK_:  thing in kubuntu they split ndiswrapper into 3 pkgs that u need to download11:17
eagles0513875im so ready to kill my isp11:17
ReK_what the name of the kernel headers pkg in the http repository?11:17
eagles0513875in the http repository?11:18
GerritIt's not lid.sh11:18
GerritWhen I restart my notebook after hibernation, there is 100% CPU usage continuously. Xorg is using a lot: 6% user, 60% system. My notebook is an Acer TravelMate 4100. It's already going on for more than 20 minutes. What might cause this?11:18
eagles0513875Gerrit: kill the x11:18
eagles0513875or restart it11:18
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GerritOkay.11:19
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ReK_yes, as in the web-accesible repository, meaning i can dl it through windows to use when i boot my connectionless linux11:19
GerritWell11:19
GerritIf tha its the only way...11:19
darkrift411is there a way to change the size of your tray icons?11:19
darkrift411they are rather large and take up lots of space, id like to make em smaller if possible11:19
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eagles0513875ReK_: u cant wire urself to ur connection till we get it workin11:19
ReK_not easily11:20
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eagles0513875humm11:21
darkrift411thats what i had to do S:11:21
ReK_ive got the wireless troubleshooting covered, im talking with a maintainer of madwifi now11:21
eagles0513875darkrift411: what kind of wifi card u got11:21
darkrift411broadcom11:21
darkrift4114300 i think11:21
darkrift411the pain in the ass one everyone has probs with11:21
eagles0513875ohh i got something for u then darkrift411cuz i have a 430611:21
eagles0513875here hold up dark11:21
darkrift411mine works good though11:21
eagles0513875http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices11:22
eagles0513875lol they finally took the winblows driver11:22
eagles0513875converted it to c and then released it for linux11:22
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darkrift411nice11:22
darkrift411i wonder if its worth the time to try it11:22
darkrift411i might not be able to go back if it doesnt work :S11:23
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eagles0513875im goign to submit it to a canonical volunteer to maybe release it with gutsy11:23
eagles0513875:(11:23
eagles0513875i wish i coudl try it but cant11:23
darkrift411im still semi new11:23
simmanttullwow11:24
jussi01!netsplit11:24
ubotunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit11:24
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simmanttullGk11:25
darkrift41103:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)11:25
eagles0513875dark ill try it out and then let u know if it works11:26
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darkrift411k11:26
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darkrift411mines the 431111:27
darkrift411based on that site you pasted me11:27
eagles0513875ok11:27
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TheGateKeeperI have gone to 'Adjust Data and Time..." set it to 'London' but it still says Europe/Guuernsey how do I correct this?11:27
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eagles0513875dark urs is Supported for kernel 2.6.20.6 and later11:28
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eagles0513875ext4 is looking rather promising11:28
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darkrift411anyone know how i kill a process i started with xchat?11:32
darkrift411if i try /exec i get an error saying a process is already started11:33
simmanttulldissapoint11:33
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TheGateKeeperdarkrift411: get a terminal up then killall <process>11:34
darkrift411i dont know what process it is though11:34
darkrift411i was wondering if there was an xchat command11:34
darkrift4112.6.20-16-generic <--- seems that driver should work.... still dont wanna take a chance :S11:35
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eagles0513875for me though my is supported regardless of the card version11:38
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eagles0513875!aptfix11:41
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 11:41
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smiley_what packages do I have to install for flash to play. I have swiftfox11:51
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fritzhy, can any1 tell me the name of a partition magic-type app for kubuntu?11:54
llutzsmiley_: flashplugin-nonfree11:54
fritzi ran out of disk-space on my drive and would like to add more:)11:54
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Jucato!info qtparted | fritz11:56
ubotufritz: qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 206 kB, installed size 720 kB11:56
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AutoMatriXHi folks11:58
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smiley_what packages do I have to install for flash to play. I have swiftfox12:01
smiley_!gnash12:01
ubotuAn open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/12:01
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Jucato!info flashplugin-nonfree | smiley_12:02
ubotusmiley_: flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)12:02
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eagles0513875how can i clear out the internet cache of temp internet files etc12:08
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JucatoSettings -> Configure Konqueror -> Cache12:09
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eagles0513875im using firefox Jucato12:13
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Jucatook, you should  have said that you know :)12:13
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eagles0513875sry im like a comp processor my mind is processing a million things at once12:14
eagles0513875right now im trying to figure out what to do with my pos internet connection12:14
eagles05138752mb cable connection that is giving me speeds of 56k12:14
Jucatoalmost all browser have an option somewhere to clear their caches12:14
Jucatoeagles0513875: you know, Firefox makes it easier even :)12:15
eagles0513875i did but isnt there like a main cache where it pools everythign from all the browsers so that regardless of the browser u use u can still use the cache12:15
JucatoTools -> Clear Private Data12:15
eagles0513875lol12:15
Jucatoer no12:15
Jucatodifferent browser = different implementations12:16
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drgonzohello al12:16
drgonzoall12:16
eagles0513875)#$*%&*@&5312:16
drgonzoI've got kontact/kmail running in the systray. Is there anyway to get it to check my mail every 10 mins or so ?12:16
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drgonzobecause currently it only checks when i  tell it too12:16
eagles0513875ya there is forgot how though12:16
eagles0513875oh wait im not sure in kmail i know how in evolution12:17
drgonzoyeah evolution does it. But im using kmail :)12:17
Jucatodrgonzo: Settngs -> Configure KMail12:17
drgonzobtw i found the screensaver gnome uses glscreensaver too :)12:17
eagles0513875anyone here work for canonical12:17
JucatoAccounts -> Receiving tab -> Modify -.> Check interval12:17
drgonzoJucato: i've looked in configure kmail i don't seem to see the option12:17
drgonzook12:17
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Jucatoeagles0513875: #canonical please12:17
eagles0513875ok12:18
eagles0513875ty didnt even know they had a channel12:18
drgonzothanks12:18
drgonzo :)12:18
eagles0513875jucato their channel has changed12:18
Jucatoeagles0513875: hm.. then I don't know where. sorry12:18
eagles0513875its a private channel12:18
eagles0513875usr name and password protected12:19
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Ash-FoxBruteforce!12:19
Jucatook. you might be better off contacting them through e-mail12:19
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eagles0513875i did no response yet12:21
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TheGateKeeperwhen I go into 'Adjust Date & Time..." and set it to london, then go back in & it reset to guernsey is this a kde bug?12:27
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ADiCT3DCan someone help me install the pvr 150 intv firmware and set it up. I have tried reading the guide but its really too confusing12:36
ADiCT3Divtv*12:36
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DjDarkmanHy I instelled a new k3b from getdeb, and it`s complaining that It can`t run it`s backends with root priveleges, how do I correct this?12:37
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ADiCT3D!ivtv12:38
ubotuIVTV can be installed on Edgy by following the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Edgy12:38
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vbgunzanyone know how I can split vob titles/chapters?12:40
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johnHello12:41
icecruncherh12:42
ardchoillevbgunz: iirc, k9copy can do that.12:42
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johnI've gotta problem can anyone help?12:43
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vbgunzardchoille: I'll try just about anything right now, thanks for that :)12:43
pag!ask | john12:43
ubotujohn: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:43
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ardchoillevbgunz: Are you owkring on ripping or backing up a DVD video?12:43
ADiCT3DHey guys, How do you encode vobs, I use dvd::rip i have a sony handycam thingy that writes to dvd and i encode them but i use the dvd:rip and it encodes SOOOO slow like 6fps max anyone know how to speed this up?12:44
johnRight okay then. I have Kubuntu, and I don't have administrator access. What do I do?12:44
ardchoillevbgunz: If so, there are several apps that can help with that: k9copy, xdvdshrink, acidrip, tovid and others.12:44
ardchoille!dvd12:44
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs12:44
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vbgunzardchoille: I have a SONY handycam. I film home movies and on Windows, I use imagemixer to convert my home movies to MPG files. I can do that here with ffmpeg no problem *but* I have no idea on how to separate titles/chapters12:44
darkrift411anyone here know about superkaramba?12:45
icecruncheryes12:45
ardchoillevbgunz: xdvdshrink can rip and seperate titles/chapters, hold on, lemme get you a link.12:45
darkrift411i have 0.41 but the site says latst is 0.3912:45
darkrift411my themes always dissapear12:46
vbgunzardchoille: very cool, am looking at k9copy now12:46
darkrift411think it might be because im using what im guessing is a beta?12:46
johnAny thoughts on my problem?12:46
darkrift411what do you need to do john?12:46
ADiCT3Dardchoille: Do you use dvd::rip?12:47
darkrift411john,12:47
johnlook at timestmap 11:44<john>12:47
ardchoillevbgunz: http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net/   This app comes with an installer script. Run it and it'll tell you which deps you need. install those deps from the repos and run the script again and you'll be all set. This app also shrinks dual-layer dvd (dvd9) videos down to fit on a single-layer (dvd5) dvd-/+r12:47
darkrift411dude12:47
darkrift411unless you live in my state12:47
darkrift411we have different times12:47
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ardchoilleADiCT3D: I tried to use it once, too complicated :(12:47
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darkrift411what the heck do you need admin for?12:48
johnokay lokk at n:4412:48
DarkWizzardhello12:48
vbgunzdvdshrink works on Linux without wine?12:48
ADiCT3Dardchoille: Its not complicated though. What do you use?12:48
darkrift411dude, copy paste much?12:48
DarkWizzarddoes calling this-> hid() hide the app from the taskbar ?12:48
johnDude, can't12:48
DarkWizzarderr12:48
DarkWizzardwrong channel again12:48
darkrift411what do you need admin for?12:48
ardchoilleADiCT3D: I use xdvdshrink http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net/12:48
johnTo install updates and install apps12:48
vbgunzoh, heh12:48
darkrift411ok12:48
ADiCT3Dardchoille: Ehh i need something to encode the dvd not just compress it like dvdshrink does12:48
darkrift411if you are using command line, use sudo12:49
johnwhats sudo?12:49
darkrift411if not, use kdesu12:49
vbgunzardchoille: thanks a million, hopefully one of these will save the day~!12:49
darkrift411gives you temp admin12:49
vbgunzthanks a million again!12:49
darkrift411sudo <command here>12:49
darkrift411then it asks for a password12:49
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darkrift411type in your password12:49
ardchoilleADiCT3D: xdvdshrink rips dvd's, if that involves encoding then it does that too.12:49
johnI have only Konsole12:49
ardchoillevbgunz: You're welcome :)12:49
pag!sudo | john12:49
ubotujohn: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:49
darkrift411ex. sudo apt-get install <package name>12:49
johnwhere from?12:50
darkrift411konsole12:50
ADiCT3Dardchoille: No, I need to rip then encode the vobs to avi so i can send my home movies out12:50
darkrift411example12:50
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darkrift411sudo apt-get install firefox12:50
darkrift411would install firefox12:50
ardchoilleADiCT3D: fwiw, xdvdshrink consists of two shell scripts and a gui.. easy to look through the shell script and learn what it does.12:50
johnwhere do I get sudo from12:50
darkrift411you dont get it12:50
DjDarkmanhow can I configure cdrecord to be able to be run with root?12:50
ardchoilleADiCT3D: Ah, ok, I think acidrip (in the repos) can do that12:50
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ADiCT3Dardchoille: Acid rip encodes too slow :(12:51
DjDarkmank3b`s complaining and I can`t writght DVD`s at the right speed12:51
ardchoilleOh, ok12:51
johnso is it on my system?12:51
darkrift411yes12:51
mhbDjDarkman: what release are you using?12:51
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johnunder which folder?12:51
DjDarkmanmhb: feisty fawn12:51
darkrift411you are making things difficult12:51
pagjohn, if you want upgrades just open konsole and type: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade12:51
johnkk hold on12:51
DjDarkmanDo I need to add cdrecord to the sudoers?12:52
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mhbDjDarkman: no, that's not correct12:52
mhbDjDarkman: I used Feisty myself and I don't remember any such message12:52
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DjDarkmanmhb: I had slow wirtes, low buffer and I upgraded to a newer k3b, witch is having these issues12:53
johnI'll go to fedora it'll be easier.12:53
DjDarkmancdrecord will be run without root privileges12:53
DjDarkmanIt is highly recommended to configure cdrecord to run with root privileges. Only then cdrecord runs with high priority which increases the overall stability of the burning process. Apart from that it allows changing the size of the used burning buffer. A lot of user problems could be solved this way. This is also true when using SuSE's resmgr.12:53
super_hey : pls i need site  web for download TCL Scripts for Xchat IRC12:53
johnthanks anywho darkrift12:53
DjDarkmansuper_: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=Y8B&pwst=1&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=xchat+tcl+scripts&spell=112:54
DjDarkman-.-12:54
super_thank you  bro12:54
darkrift411lol12:54
DjDarkmannp12:54
darkrift411soem ppl just want to be lazy12:54
super_huhh google :p12:55
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mhbDjDarkman: but if you want (it's at your own risk), you can try adding the "SUID" bit to cdrecord12:55
DjDarkmanyou mean modifying the binary?12:56
mhbDjDarkman: no, I mean: "sudo chmod +s /path/to/cdrecord"12:56
DjDarkmanhmmm I don`t even have cdrecord, lol12:58
mhbDjDarkman: I don't have it either12:58
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DjDarkmannow I have it12:59
DjDarkmanok mhb thank you looks like it did the trick12:59
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mhbDjDarkman: no problem; I don't know if it makes the dvds burn faster, though01:00
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DjDarkmanmhb: maybe not maybe yes, what do I got to loose, I lost at least 5 dvd`s already..01:01
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ardchoilleDjDarkman: Are you ripping dvd's?01:01
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DjDarkmanardchoille: no, just writing them for myself01:02
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LucidFoxis it possible to substitute kde01:02
LucidFoxis it possible to substitute the kdeglobals file for a particular application?01:03
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ardchoilleDjDarkman: You mean burning dvd's from a folder of files?01:04
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darkrift411whats the default option for using alien?01:07
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darkrift411i got 2 rpm packages i want to install, and i tried alien -idc packname01:07
darkrift411and not sure if it worked :S01:08
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fritzdoes any1 know if there is a crossfade feature for amarok01:08
fritzor any other linux player?01:09
lombradia!01:09
darkrift411dia?01:09
darkrift411ok :S01:09
fritzany1?01:09
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darkrift411erm, a isnt an option01:09
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ardchoille!alien | darkrift41101:09
ubotudarkrift411: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)01:09
DexterFhi01:09
DexterFI just wanted to create new user via sys control, tells me it can't load the module. fresh 7.04 install. pointers?01:10
fritz,,,,?01:10
ardchoilledarkrift411: Which apps are those rpm's for?01:10
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darkrift411packages said they were tested on ubuntu, so im hoping it will be ok01:10
darkrift411lacie (lightscribe app)01:10
fritz-= hopping around w8ing 4 answer=- :))01:11
ardchoilledarkrift411: Anyone who said they tested rpm's on Ubuntu is not following proper procedure. Using alien is dangerous.01:11
darkrift411oh01:11
darkrift411i tried rpm and it said to use alien :S01:11
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mike_Greets, everyone...01:12
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darkrift411how do i make rpm get the dependencies?01:13
smiley_When I start beryl-maneger my pane disapears..01:13
ardchoilledarkrift411: You can't, *buntu is .deb based, using rpm's is not recommended.01:14
egon_hello :)01:14
darkrift411well jesus01:14
egon_do anyboddy play regnum-online?01:14
darkrift411the page offers only rpm, and says tested on ubuntu01:14
mike_Is anyone here very familiar with RSEIUB? I was just able to log into a TTY and restart KDM after only doing R-S-E, and I'm wondering if that could cause any problems01:14
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ardchoilledarkrift411: Those "tested on ubuntu" may work on one box, but cause problems on another box.. similar to what automatix does.01:14
egon_noone? :(01:15
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mike_smiley_: What happens when you hit Alt+F1 (or whatever the hotkey for K Menu is, if you've changed it)?01:15
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fritzdoes any1 know if there is a crossfade feature for amarok01:16
smiley_it opens K01:16
fritzor any other linux player?01:16
smiley_K01:17
mike_smiley_: Did you accidentally make the panel transparent? (Try Alt+Scrollwheel over where the panel should be)01:17
mathieu_wow01:17
mathieu_test?01:17
mike_fritz: There is01:17
mathieu_everything suddenly stopped working01:18
fritzin amarok01:18
fritzmike?01:18
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mathieu_complaining about a read-only file system01:18
mike_fritz: It's in Amarok's settings, pretty easy to find. ;-)01:18
mathieu_df segfaults01:18
darkrift411is there an option for rpm to install dependancies?01:19
darkrift411or to ignore them?01:19
fritzthnx mike:)01:19
fritzdidn't bother 2 look in settings01:19
mike_darkrift411: You could try Alien. It's said that's a risky procedure, but I've never had problems with it.01:19
mike_!worksforme01:19
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.01:19
darkrift411lol01:19
fritzsilly me:)01:19
mike_fritz: NP :)01:19
sweettoothhey anyone knows how to install real player for use in firefox? i checked this page http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28RealPlayer_10.29 , but apparently plf repository does not seem to have the package01:19
darkrift411i could try it, but since its "risky" i cant find out how to use it properly01:20
darkrift411i got a bunch of chown errors on one package01:20
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darkrift411chown: `:wheel': invalid group01:20
darkrift411chown: `:wheel': invalid group01:20
darkrift411those over and over01:20
mike_sweettooth: Medibuntu has it - www.medibuntu.org01:20
mike_sweettooth: Hopefully you haven't already tried installing it with the binary installer? (realplayer.run, or something like that)01:21
sweettoothmike_, no i havent01:21
sweettoothmike_, i only tried to add the repository using that ubuntu guide01:22
mike_sweettooth: Lucky you. I had done that once - it worked, but it scattered its crap ALL OVER my system and there's no way to uninstall it.01:22
sweettoothmike_, i think i have already added the repository though01:22
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mike_sweettooth: The Medibuntu repository?01:23
sweettoothHit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/universe Packages01:23
sweettoothHit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/multiverse Packages01:23
sweettoothHit http://packages.medibuntu.org feisty/free Packages01:23
sweettoothHit http://packages.medibuntu.org feisty/non-free Packages01:23
sweettooththat's from apt-get update01:23
mike_sweettooth: Use the pastebin - paste.ubuntu-nl.org ;-)01:23
sweettoothyes, my apology01:23
sweettoothheh01:23
mike_Np01:24
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mike_sweettooth: Does it succeed in retrieving the package lists for those repositories?01:24
ardchoilledarkrift411: That's why using alien is risky, it can make system changes that can break things. The wheel group used to be used as the admin group a while back, not sure if anyone still does that trick or not.01:24
sweettoothi think so, it was doing sth earlier on01:25
darkrift411lol01:25
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darkrift411so lightscribe in kubuntu is a no go01:25
darkrift411gotta love it01:25
darkrift411odd thing is01:25
lucky_lucashi, need help about a noisy bell01:25
darkrift411someone in here pointed me to lacie01:25
elbingI've got an i845G with i810 module loaded. I need direct rendering and I read around google that it's possible but I don't know how to do it. Could anyone give some clue?01:25
sweettoothmike_, that's what i got earlier on01:25
sweettoothHit http://packages.medibuntu.org feisty/non-free Packages01:25
sweettoothFetched 193B in 0s (273B/s)01:25
ardchoilledarkrift411: What does lightscribe do exactly? Is there another app that can do the same thing?01:25
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lucky_lucaswhen I increase decrease the sound, I got the bell destroying my ears01:26
darkrift411uses the cd burner laser to etch images on the back of cd's01:26
darkrift411lacie is the "other app"01:26
darkrift411lightscribe is the name of the technology01:26
mike_sweettooth: What's it show when you type "sudo apt-get install realplayer"?01:26
darkrift411lacie 4l is the linux version of the lightscribe writer01:26
lucky_lucasany clue ?01:26
sweettoothi got sth in the first time01:27
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ardchoilledarkrift411: Well, the safe way to manage apps is to either use the apps in the repos, find a .deb that was made for Ubuntu or compile. It's never a good thing to use packages made for other distros.01:27
sweettoothmike_, check this out01:27
sweettoothhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27607/01:27
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TheGateKeeperjust installed wengophone, dialed a test call number & it thinks my sound card is blocked, yet all other sound apps are ok, any ideas folks?01:28
mike_sweettooth: Hmm... One sec...01:28
sweettoothmike_, but now i get this, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27608/01:28
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mike_Ohhh...01:29
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mike_sweettooth: sudo apt-get install helix-player01:29
mike_sweettooth: That should be all you need, I think01:30
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sweettoothmike_, ok i will have a go, cheers m801:31
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mike_Good luck01:32
mike_Is anyone here very knowledgeable about the Alt+SysRq commands?01:33
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gemidjywhat is the name of this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPowerManagementFeedback actually and can I use it with other distros ?01:34
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mike_gemidjy: I think the package for it is "kde-guidance-applet" - but I honestly can't see why you'd want to use it (or why it's the default power management applet, for that matter). KPowerManager is much better. :-)01:36
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gemidjymike_: whatever else than KLaptop01:37
gemidjy:)01:37
alkishello :)01:37
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mike_Hehe01:37
mike_gemidjy: Oh, I see. Which distro are you using?01:37
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gemidjymike_: archlinux from today :) was Kubuntu user so far, Kubuntu is very good distro, I just find arch more suiting for me01:38
mike_That's cool.01:38
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gemidjyme neither I like all distros :)01:38
gemidjyhowever, Kpowermanager, did u mean Kpowersave? can't find kpowermanager :/01:39
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nosrednaekimbut like kubuntu too01:39
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mike_gemidjy: Whoops, that's the one.01:39
mike_Heh, sorry01:39
gemidjymike_: :) ok01:39
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KomiaPoikahelp. when i launch k3b and try to burn a downloaded iso, it says: no mimetypes installed!01:53
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joerghi Leute02:03
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joergnen fetten Gru ausm Ruhrgebiet02:03
alkisguys, which is the default root password for kubuntu?02:03
alkisinstallation didnt ask me to put one.02:03
joergit is the same as your password at the beginning02:04
nosrednaekimalkis: kubuntu uses sudo02:04
alkissays authentication failed02:04
joergwhen you tip in your id02:04
KomiaPoikaalkis: you have to sudo su and then hit 'passwd' to set a password for root, it is disable by default02:04
nosrednaekimalkis: if you want root, do "sudo passwd woot"02:04
nosrednaekim*root02:04
nosrednaekimand enter your password02:05
alkisah i see fixed it now02:05
alkisthanks :))02:05
joergguys where do you come from?02:05
jussi01!sudo02:05
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:05
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lanboyhello02:08
lanboycant someone help me02:08
zachDoes anyone here know of a Qt-based browser that used the Gecko rendering engine?02:08
lanboy*can02:09
zachWhat's the problem lanboy?02:09
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lanboywell you know how in windows commant prompt you can type net view02:09
nosrednaekimzach: hmm nope.02:09
lanboyand see who's on your workgroup02:09
lanboyhow i do somethinglike that in feisty?02:09
nosrednaekimlanboy: like what other computer are on your netowrk?02:10
zachlanboy: Umm... Not really. Never used the command line in my Windows days, sorry. :-\02:10
lanboyyeah02:10
lanboyso i can then ping and find ip02:10
lanboyor do you know any other ways02:10
lanboyso i can find local network ip#s02:10
nosrednaekimlanboy: no idea. I just run ifconfig on them when I want to know their ip02:10
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nosrednaekimthey're windows computers tho, right?02:11
lanboytheir ip?02:11
lanboyyeah02:11
lanboyfrom 98 to vista02:11
nosrednaekimI think you can go through network settings on them and see their IP.02:11
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nosrednaekimwhen I connect to a wireless hotspot, it tells me the IP if I hover my mouse over the icon02:11
nosrednaekimsoo... maybe if its wired you can do the same thing02:12
lanboyi wanna find an ip on my network so i can remote access it basicly02:12
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zachlanboy: As in, for file-sharing and the like?02:13
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lanboyno no remote access02:13
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zachOh ok02:13
smiley_I have berly manager .. i run him and  switch from KWin to Beryl.. and panels dissapered.02:13
smiley_any ideas?02:14
icecrunchersmiley_: to many workspaces?02:14
snip_pheraps the panel have transparency ?02:14
smiley_no not that...02:14
zachsmiley_: Hit Alt+F2, type "konsole" and press Enter, then type "kicker" and press enter. If your panel reappears, something (strange) is causing Beryl to kill Kicker02:15
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snip_I have this problem, and I've solved when I've disable the transparency of kicker.02:16
zachCome to think of it, I think I've had that happen once or twice, but that's about it. Wasn't frequent enough to bother troubleshooting it.02:16
smiley_am.. what can i do for now ?02:17
smiley_the kickers dissapered.02:17
nosrednaekimI have two transparent panels and neither dissappear when I leave beryl02:17
zachsmiley_: What happened when you ran kicker from Konsole?02:17
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snip_I've a singolar problem with kicker (I' think that), when I press ALT+F2 and type in the box "konsole", apprear UXTERM ... not konsole program.02:17
jussi01smiley_: probably better asking in #ubuntu-effects02:17
LucidFoxhow do I disable the sidebar in Kaffeine?02:18
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smiley_bash: kickers: command not found02:18
smiley_zach: bash: kickers: command not found02:18
zachsmiley - "kicker"02:18
snip_kicker02:18
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smiley_ERROR: kicker is already running!02:19
smiley_and nothing happend.02:19
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snip_anyone know why ALT+F2 and "konsole" ... appear uxterm instead of konsole ?02:19
zachsmiley_: And when you hit Alt+F1?02:19
snip_What I've to change ?02:19
smiley_K opens02:19
zachsnip_: Might have a look at Konsole's entry in KMenuEdit. Beyond that, I have no idea.02:20
zachsmiley_: Try this...02:20
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snip_thank's!02:21
zachOpen Beryl Settings Manager, go to Window Management at the top, then Set Window Attribs by Various Criteria...02:21
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smiley_and.02:21
smiley_?02:21
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ADiCT3DCan someone point me to a fast encoding program for linux that allows me to specify file sizes and uses XviD?02:22
zachsmiley_: Make sure the box for that is checked, and under Window Opacity, add an entry for Kicker (I'd assume you can do Window Class or Window Title for this) giving it 100% absolute transparency...02:22
snip_I've 2 entry named "Konsole", the first is "konsole (Uxterm)" the second is "Terminal program (konsole".02:23
snip_pheraps this is the problem.02:23
snip_when I launch konsole, the kde whatch the first.02:23
snip_:-)02:23
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zachsmiley_: So the new entry should look like this: t:Kicker:100! (you can edit it manually by clicking the entry after you've set it in the pop-up dialog)02:23
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zachsmiley_: Anything?02:25
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smiley_wait ..02:25
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msetimHi guys02:26
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msetimsomebody have sources to win32codecs to amd64?02:26
LucidFoxmsetim> why do you need win32codecs?02:27
LucidFoxmore likely than not, you don;t02:27
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ADiCT3DUse VLC02:27
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msetimmsetim: because some videos are in media player format02:28
msetimADiCT3D:02:28
ADiCT3D?02:28
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zachsnip_: Is Konsole coming up properly now?02:29
msetimADiCT3D: sorry, The VLC solve my problem with any type of codecs ( win codecs )?02:29
ADiCT3Dmsetim:I dont uderstand what your saying02:29
ADiCT3Dunderstand*02:30
zachmsetim: Can't speak from experience, but from what I've read, it should02:30
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smiley_zach: i do like u tell me, may i need to restart PC ?02:31
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zachsmiley_: No. You almost never need to restart your PC in Linux ;-)02:32
msetimADiCT3D: When I'read you message "use VLC" I guess that you are saying to me use the VLC to play my videos that have w32codecs. My doubt is if it really play all types of win codecs.02:32
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zachsmiley_: Run this command: "beryl --replace &"02:32
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smiley_..ok xD02:32
ADiCT3Dmsetim:It should mine has it all built into VLC02:32
msetimzach: I will test it :-D02:32
zachADiCT3D: So I'm guessing with VLC, you don't have to install ANY additional codecs?02:33
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zachADiCT3D: Does VLC do RealMedia/RealAudio also?02:34
ADiCT3Dzach: Idk i didnt build it02:34
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smiley_zach: there a no kicker on windows02:34
ADiCT3Dzach real media support sucks for every app including real play get the free real player02:34
zachsmiley_: ?02:34
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zachADiCT3D: You mean Helix, right?02:35
smiley_i run beryl manager and .. same like first time02:35
ADiCT3Dzach: No.02:35
ADiCT3DCan someone point me to a fast encoding program for linux that allows me to specify file sizes and uses XviD?02:35
zachADiCT3D: Have you tried Avidemux? Not sure if it does what you need, but it might be worth a shot.02:36
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zachsmiley_: And when you scroll-wheel up while holding Alt where the panel should be, still nothing?02:37
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ADiCT3Dzach: i'm compiling the 2.4 preview as we speak ive also compiled XviD CVS but the last vers was encoding too slow, 4-6fps02:37
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smiley_nothing02:37
smiley_:S02:37
ADiCT3Dzach: i used Handbrake but i dont like how it grabs off the dvd and doesnt cache..terminal only too02:38
zachsmiley_: What about if you right-click where your panel should be?02:38
zachsmiley_: Copy and paste the line you added to the Set Window Attribs... section02:40
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smiley_c:kicker:10002:42
zachsmiley_: Try changing it to "t:Kicker:100!" then Alt+F2 -> "beryl --replace &" again02:42
zach(note the exclamation mark)02:43
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smiley_nad then ?02:46
smiley_and*02:46
zachI'm out of ideas, sorry. :-/02:46
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smiley_thank u anyway.02:46
zachTry #desktop-effects - someone there might be able to help02:46
zachNo problem02:46
nimbleanyone know why my external hard drive auto mounts fine when using the livecd but not when installed?02:47
nimblemy flash drive automounts fine in both :-/02:47
zachnimble: Did you set it to be mounted when you installed?02:48
nimblenope02:48
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zachnimble: You might check in the Disk & Filesystems section of System Settings when it's plugged in and see if you can set it to automount from there. Not too sure though, as I've never used a USB HD02:50
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flakewhy would my trash icon not be working on my panel02:51
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nimblei dont think you can get stuff to automount (the way usb flash drives do) in there02:52
flakeit's pointing to trash:/  instead of .Trash  ?02:52
nimblethanks anyway02:52
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flakeright-click and moves to trash I guess moves it to ~/.Trash02:53
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krautmoin02:56
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flakeheh, when I changed location of trash:/ to /home/myname/.Trash  and right-click send to trash, it sent it to my panel icon pointing to trash:/ and showed up02:56
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The_MachineCould someone give me a hand?  Getting this error:  Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.02:58
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The_Machinethis is after i installed some updates using adept and i'm trying to launch adept again02:58
eagles0513875now my isp is using the excuse that they have pinged my modem and they were not getting any response from my machine. what is the default firewall and how can i change the settings02:59
LamingtonThe_Machine: check in KsysGuard to see if Adept or apt is still running02:59
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eagles0513875and also is there any antispyware pkg that i can download02:59
The_Machinei did, i didn't see anything :/03:00
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ADiCT3Deagles0513875 You dont need anti-spyware on linux03:00
eagles0513875let me show u what their support said on the email03:00
The_Machinehaha03:01
ADiCT3Deagles0513875 what ISP are you on?03:01
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eagles0513875ADiCT3D: how can i tweak the firewall settings03:01
eagles0513875of the default firewall03:01
ADiCT3Deagles0513875 what ISP are you on?03:02
LamingtonThe_Machine: hmm If it said another process is using it atm then that is correct... trick is to find out what is, or just wait till the process is finished03:02
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LamingtonIm not sure kubuntu does a ping reply by default... but that wont affect you internet access03:03
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eagles0513875this is what they said in the email03:04
eagles0513875I am sending signals to your modem and the modem is sending me back the signals. This means that internet connection between Onvol and your Modem is established. When I am sending signals to your IP Address; in simple words to your computer the signals are not returned back. It is giving me Request Timed Out. Security Programs such like Firewall / Internet security or Antivirus can limit your internet connection and making it running slow. Spy03:04
eagles0513875ware may also be the cause of internet connection speed. If you have spy ware, spy ware will absorb most of the internet connection and you will have slow connection speed. It would be a good thing if you scan your computer with an anti  spy ware. If you have spy ware on your computer the Anti  Spy ware would be able to remove them from your computer. Just in case from my side I have reset your cable modem connection. This may help out the03:04
eagles0513875internet connection to run faster.03:04
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ADiCT3Ddude use pastebin.com to paste huge things03:05
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eagles0513875sry i forgot03:05
eagles0513875this issue has had me really pissed off for a while now03:05
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The_Machineso, your firewall is on.03:06
Lamingtoneagles0513875: it aint spyware ;)03:06
The_MachineLamington is right.03:06
ADiCT3Deagles0513875: Who is your ISP???03:06
eagles0513875im in malta its called onvol03:07
eagles0513875the website is onvol.net03:07
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eagles0513875lol its an island 60miles south of scicily in the mediterranean sea03:07
ADiCT3Dohhh yeah03:07
ADiCT3Dcool03:07
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LamingtonMalta is a nice place03:08
The_Machinewow03:08
eagles0513875u heard of it lamington03:08
Lamingtonyea03:08
The_Machinehow the hell do you have internet?03:08
ADiCT3DI have too03:08
The_Machinejust looked it up on a map03:08
The_Machineis it satellite?!03:08
ADiCT3Dno03:08
ADiCT3Ddialup03:08
eagles0513875no its cable03:08
The_Machineheh03:08
eagles0513875cable03:08
ADiCT3Do rlly03:08
eagles0513875i have a cable modem03:08
ADiCT3Dcool03:08
The_Machinesweet :)  LOL03:08
Lamingtonlol03:08
LamingtonIm on cable as well03:08
eagles0513875and its hot as hell damn heat wave03:08
ADiCT3Dim on oc303:08
eagles0513875!language03:08
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:08
eagles0513875hat is oc303:08
The_Machinewhat is the speeds you're paying for?03:08
eagles05138752mbps03:08
jussi01!offtopic03:08
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:08
The_Machinegotcha03:08
ADiCT3Deagles:Fiber Internet03:09
eagles0513875nice03:09
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eagles0513875its 2mbps03:09
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eagles0513875and i didn mtr to archive.ubuntu.com and its showing that a seabone connection is having huge packet loss03:09
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eagles051387580-90%03:10
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icecrunchereagles0513875: yep, same here03:11
eagles0513875ice where r u located03:11
icecrunchereagles0513875; althoug 10.122.50.250 is having the larget loss 50% constant03:11
icecruncherthailand03:11
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eagles0513875what can i do to fix my slow connection03:12
Lamingtoneagles0513875: I am also on cable and I have no problems with kubuntu...03:12
icecrunchereagles0513875: you mean connection ingenerla or ubuntu update?03:12
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icecruncher* in general03:13
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eagles0513875right now im tryign to download gutsy tribe 2 updates03:13
eagles0513875and i was also tryign to download the iso for gutsy03:13
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eagles0513875and either thing i do im getting really crap speeds03:13
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icecrunchereagles0513875: k, if it where on a different mirror, I'd say change, but...03:13
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monfissom tu jacy polacy03:14
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icecrunchereagles0513875: get downthemall firefox extension, speeds up a bit03:14
eagles0513875i used sourceomatic to get the gutsy repositories03:14
icecruncherk03:14
eagles0513875i think i might just reinstall feisty03:15
BluesKajeagles0513875, the source site might be very busy hence ther servers are slowed down giviving what appears to be a slow connection03:15
icecruncher!pl | monfis03:15
ubotumonfis: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl03:15
Lamingtoneagles0513875: is everything slow ?03:15
eagles0513875yes03:15
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eagles0513875even webpgs i try to go to03:15
monfisskont pobra linux-686-6403:15
eagles0513875monfis: english only plz03:16
monfis[15:16]  [474]  #ubuntu-pl You're banned from that channel03:16
icecruncherLamington: when doing an mtr to archives.ubuntu.com; 10.122.50.250 shows a constant 45-50% package loss03:16
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eagles0513875ice for me though its a seabone03:16
eagles0513875between this island and italy03:16
icecrunchereagles0513875: lol03:16
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icecrunchermust be the heat, and servers down03:17
icecruncher:)03:17
eagles0513875is a seabone a fibre optic cable03:17
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eagles0513875im wondering if a dns server is offline03:17
jeroen69help03:17
Lamingtonhmm I can't see how kubuntu might be responsible for this problem03:17
LamingtonFaulty modem ? ISP full of BS ?03:17
jeroen69I installed kubuntu and I had normal sound the first time, but now all sounds just hangs03:17
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icecruncheralso the servers in france are very slow03:17
eagles0513875could a dns server be the problem03:17
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eagles0513875up until yesterday i didnt have thsi problem03:18
eagles0513875this happened yesterday all day03:18
eagles0513875and persisting today03:18
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icecrunchereagles0513875: blame it on the heat!03:18
eagles0513875im downloading aegis to see if it finds anything03:18
Lamingtoneagles0513875: ah ok... did you do anything at all that might have caused this problem ?03:18
eagles0513875no03:18
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eagles0513875f it im just going to reinstall03:18
Lamingtoneagles0513875: It doesnt sound to me like kubuntu is the cause of the problem03:19
eagles0513875can someone ping my ip address03:19
BluesKajeagles0513875, could be your ISP, if you haven't done kubuntu upgrades , then that's prolly the problem03:19
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eagles0513875i was using the kubuntu feisty beta i had and updated those pkgs i think its something i installed03:19
monfispolacy proszeni na #kubuntu-pl03:19
eagles0513875or wait03:20
eagles0513875could it be since i removed the feisty repositories from the source list03:20
eagles0513875should i lave those in there03:20
icecrunchereagles0513875: I'm pinging you fine03:20
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eagles0513875r u getting a response03:20
icecruncheryes03:21
icecruncher11% pak loss03:21
eagles0513875and also should i leave the feisty repositories in addition to adding the gutsy repositories03:21
eagles0513875thats not that bad03:21
eagles0513875im going to add the feisty repositories back into the source list and see if that helps03:22
eagles0513875!sourceomatic03:22
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:22
BluesKajeagles0513875 are you running gutsy?03:22
icecrunchereagles0513875: it's this with hufge losses so it must be some problem with this and the next one10.122.50.25003:23
eagles0513875no im trying to update to it03:24
eagles0513875so i can test it for bugs03:24
eagles0513875but now its been officially released03:24
eagles0513875my gateway is working fine03:24
BluesKajstill have the heatwave there? If you still do then the ISP server farm may have had to pull some off line in order to help cooling03:26
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eagles0513875im going to email them again03:28
icecruncherBluesKaj: most likely, my mtr to europe show huge packet losses03:28
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eagles0513875dude but from where i am in the med im showing huge pkt loss to the main land03:29
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BluesKajicecruncher, I saw reports of brownouts in italy and greece due to the huge power demands of the air condidtioning systems in the cities03:30
icecruncherwow03:30
icecruncherflooding in england though! :)03:30
eagles0513875there have been some here in malta03:30
eagles0513875too03:30
eagles0513875but lucky not where i live03:30
eagles0513875ya03:30
dcorbin_I just installed ftpd.  It had no problems.  I would have expected to find something /etc/init.d.  Am I wrong?03:31
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eagles0513875dcorbin just count ur blessings lol that u didnt have any problems03:32
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eagles0513875im going to reinstall guys03:32
eagles0513875ty for all ur input03:32
dcorbin_eagles0513875: well, there is a problem, just not a failure.03:32
dcorbin_or error03:32
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eagles0513875they guys here will help ya i got to do a clean install yet again lol03:33
BluesKajeagles0513875, why?03:33
eagles0513875guys just wish me luck that it fixes my error03:33
eagles0513875really slow internet03:33
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BluesKajthat's not going to fix slow internet. eagles051387503:33
eagles0513875i emailed support and they said they pinged my modem and they got no reponse back saying that it was saying request timed out03:34
eagles0513875and i just emailed them again saying that im on a linux based machine and also told them bout one of their seabones having huge packet loss03:34
BluesKajthen check the modem03:34
eagles0513875what else can i do blue03:34
eagles0513875what do i need to do03:34
eagles0513875ive unplugged it plugged it back in after 30sec03:34
icecruncherbeen reading some news, glad not to be there03:35
BluesKajmake sure you have the right drivers03:35
eagles0513875drivers of what03:35
eagles0513875this slow connection started happening yesterday03:35
BluesKajyour ethernet card03:35
eagles0513875i am honestly thinking it has something to do with me and gutsy03:35
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BluesKajdid you upgrade yesterday03:35
BluesKaj?03:35
eagles0513875tried to03:35
eagles0513875yesterday was when it started getting slow03:36
eagles0513875all ive been dowing is slowly downloading the pkgs in adept lol03:36
BluesKajhad you upgraded previously to the slowdown?03:36
eagles0513875yes03:36
eagles0513875when i installed03:37
eagles0513875i used my feisty beta x86_64 cd i had03:37
eagles0513875so after i installed it i ran dist-upgrade to upgrade kernel and everythign else that had to be upgraded03:37
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BluesKajthen it's prolly new drivers needed for your ethernet card03:37
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eagles0513875its not only on my comp though03:38
eagles0513875i tried my cousins comp last night and it was slow too03:38
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eagles0513875would it hurt to try reinstall03:40
icecruncherBluesKaj: nah blame the heat lol03:40
BluesKajgawd03:40
eagles0513875i sent them another email saying not to give me the bs of it being spyware03:40
eagles0513875on my cousins comp i know bout spyware and i take adequate steps to protect my machien from spyware as well as viruses03:41
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BluesKajuhmm, spyware is writtren for windows03:42
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eagles0513875i know03:42
eagles0513875im saying my cousins windows machine is slow too but i have protection against that stuff and viruses03:42
dewitthow can i remove my email from list03:43
eagles0513875im just going to reinstall03:43
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eagles0513875i bet u i installed something wrong03:43
eagles0513875be back in a lil bit guys03:44
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zengorhi guys03:46
zengorwhere do i find repositor for my kubuntu 7.04??03:46
mat1980!repository03:46
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:46
zengorthx03:47
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hasanhi guys03:51
hasanis there a command to show my workgroup in network03:51
hasanand change it from konsole?03:51
hasanlike hostname command03:51
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dromerwhat do I do with an Error 15 from grub?03:53
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zeroc00lwow this is my first time with Kubuntu, after a very long period with Ubuntu and I must admit that KDE is much, I don't know how to say, but is much trendy04:01
BluesKajtrendy ? easier to use and understand for former windows users like me , but trendy ..... ?04:02
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BluesKajdromer, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows04:04
samyHi04:04
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samyhello04:04
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samy?????04:05
zeroc00lyeah trendy, GNOME is very user-friendly and with an interface that limit the human error, you can customize GNOME but not as deep as KDE04:05
BluesKaj!ask | samy04:05
ubotusamy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:05
samyok04:05
samyhow i can get amsn04:06
samy??04:06
Tm_T!info amsn04:06
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2488 kB, installed size 9108 kB04:06
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BluesKajwell, there are those who would argue about which is the better desktop/interface , but to most it's just a matter of taste.04:06
Tm_Tsamy: check "add/remove programs"04:06
zeroc00lsamy: what is your version?04:07
samyook aand after04:07
Tm_TBluesKaj: yeah, like to me GNOME is nightmare, but I still recommend it to many04:07
Tm_Tsamy: search amsn04:07
samyi did04:07
samyafter?04:07
zeroc00lsamy: I mean Feisty, Edgy, Dapper or something else ....04:07
samyok thanks04:08
BluesKajI just don't like the look and feel of gnome personally ,yet I'm not an eye candy type person04:08
samygood bye04:08
aleksanterii think gnome is ugly by default yet you can make it look nice with a few elements from gnome-look.org04:08
Tm_T!offtopic04:08
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:08
BluesKajTm_T, is the offtopic cop for today :)04:09
Tm_Thaha04:09
aleksanterilol04:09
aleksanteri:-)04:09
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dromerBluesKaj: it's not from windows04:10
zeroc00lBluesKaj, aleksanteri: GNOME is not ugly it's intended to be user-friendly, but customizable with some click here and there and after this you can obtain something of pretty much better04:10
dromerBluesKaj: the problem is also that I'm using a chrooted usb-disk :#04:10
aleksanterizeroc00l: well it's my opinion and that's yours04:11
BluesKajchroooted ? why>04:11
zeroc00lbut in case of KDE here you can customize everything from the single button to the entire system, wow that's amusing04:11
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dromerBluesKaj: I did a debootstrap of a minimal debian Etch, for this ancient laptop of mine, it has no floppy or cdrom, and I hate having to reboot to install something04:12
enryhello04:12
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zeroc00laleksanderi: I'm not saying that this is much better than that, but the differencies in my opinion is just usability and easiness, I reccomend GNOME for a migrating user, is more simple, than KDE for a veteran user04:12
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Tm_Tzeroc00l: my last comment on this, GNOME just doesn't offer customisation I need, yes, need04:13
BluesKajseparate drives is a problem I have very little knowledge about , but error 15 is usually generated by the fstab file having erroneuos entries04:13
mcmurdoi dont know how 2 config ruby on rails04:13
zeroc00lto all: excuse me for my english04:14
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tu_hello all04:14
tu_i wanna install ubuntu as dual boot with XP which OS do i install first?04:15
zeroc00ltu_: xp first and then ubuntu, it will reveal the partition with XP and GRUB will be configured to dual boot04:15
mcmurdomaybe u can install win grub04:15
tu_ok thank you04:16
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BluesKajdromer, I had the same prob a week or so ago after an adept pkg upgrade (big mistake)04:16
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mcmurdowho knows to config ruby on rails04:17
zeroc00lSo guys there's somebody out there that can help me with the config of an internet shared connection with Linux?04:17
Tm_Tzeroc00l: what exactly you need?04:18
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Tm_TI mean, what kind of share?04:18
clintcmy sidebar is on the left, I hid my kicker panel to the left, now I can't click the unhide icon because it is covered by the sidebar, any way out?04:18
Tm_Tclintc: move sidebar?04:19
clintcTm_T: seems stuck and does not want to move04:19
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BluesKajdromer,had to rewrite the fstab file, with help ,but your situation is less straightforward and very restricted so dunno ,... perhaps one of the more experienced guys can help you..... Tm_T ?04:20
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Tm_Tclintc: ok, open systemsettings and search panel settings04:20
dromerBluesKaj: hope so yeah04:20
Tm_Tdromer: yes?04:20
zeroc00lTm_T: I explain: I have a pc connected to internet with a damned USB modem, and then it's connected to a wireless router that serves all my other PCs, in this moment I have Winzozz running with the shared connection that serves my PCs, but I want config this in Ubuntu and mmmmh after a couple of tutorials I didn't....04:20
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dromerTm_T: grub-install to chrooted usb-disk ..04:21
clintcTm_T:  I would if I could get to them.. a command line way perhaps? all that stuff is in the kicker panel that I can't get to04:21
Tm_Tdromer: hum, no idea04:21
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Tm_Tclintc: well, hit alt+f2 and run "systemsettings"04:21
Tm_Tclintc: nothing is dependent from one source, that would be huge flaw04:22
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clintcTm_T: thanks! now that I have access to the system settings I think I'll be able to turn it off04:23
Tm_Tclintc: heh04:23
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clintcTm_T: any idea where the setting might be for turning off the sidebar, I'm not finding it04:26
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_Robbe_is it normal that I can do more from the start with ubuntu, than with kubuntu ?04:26
Tm_Tclintc: used search?04:27
Tm_T_Robbe_: what you mean by "more" ?04:28
_Robbe_meaning that ubuntu also detectets and reads the local ntfs, while kubuntu only allows that for "the pc next door"04:28
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Tm_T_Robbe_: hum? you're sure?04:29
_Robbe_as sure as it gets04:29
Tm_T!ntfs-3g04:29
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions04:29
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clintcTm_T: yes, I've searched through all the "Look and Feel" settings which where I would think it should be... "I've lost my kicker and I can't compute"04:29
_Robbe_I know, I've to use it with kubuntu, but ubuntu already loads them for me from the start04:30
icecruncherwhy can my other computer connect to a computer on a network, but not to the router and the internet/04:30
Tm_Tclintc: hum, it's in desktop04:30
icecruncher?04:30
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Tm_T_Robbe_: it works straight away, or should04:30
_Robbe_icecruncher : you do have shares ?04:30
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_Robbe_Tm_T : in ubuntu it seems to do so, in kubuntu ... not completely sadly04:31
icecruncher_Robbe_: no, this is a straight out of the box install on the laptop ith problems, but the other comp has a server running04:31
Tm_Tzeroc00l: I use Firestarter for firewall, there's also switch "share network connection" so that might be all you need04:31
Tm_T_Robbe_: did you try "media:/" in Konqueror?04:31
clintcTm_T: that would be logical but alas I see no setting that will make the magical sidebar disappear04:31
zeroc00lTm_T: thanks I'll test this solution, I hope that functions because I don't want no more use Windows04:31
Tm_T_Robbe_: only reason that wouldn't work is that Konqi hides disk partitions somehow04:31
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Tm_Tclintc: move it then04:32
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icecruncher_Robbe_: pinging the  comp works, but router wont respond04:33
Daisuke_Idogot nothing last night, but we'll try this again.  anyone familiar with usenet software in linux?04:33
_Robbe_Tm_T : that one only showed the neighbouring pc, and some usb drives04:33
clintcTm_T: I would love to move it... but there is no apparent way to do that... truly, I'm smarter than I appear in this medium04:33
Daisuke_Idoklibido is junk04:33
Tm_T_Robbe_: see my last comment on that, and dunno why should it do that04:33
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Tm_Tclintc: hrr, sidebar is that panel thingy?04:34
clintcyes04:34
Tm_Tclintc: so can't you move kicker then?04:34
clintcright04:34
Tm_Tclintc: you can move any panel from the very same config dialog04:34
clintcit's covered by the side panel04:34
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Tm_Tclintc: wait a minute04:34
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_Robbe_icecruncher : refreshed the dns, rebooted the rooter, etc. ?04:35
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icecruncher_Robbe_: not using dns04:35
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_Robbe_Tm_T : is their a way to tell konq to back off and show them ?04:36
Tm_Tclintc: oh my... you have kcontrol running?04:37
icecruncher_Robbe_; router is doing it all04:37
juan278is there anyway to allow desktop icons on to a 2nd screen (im uswing twinview)04:37
Tm_T_Robbe_: hum, I don't know about this issue much, sorry, I recommend to do some searching in wiki/help.ubuntu and forums04:37
omega__hy to all04:37
Tm_Tclintc: running or atleast installed?04:37
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clintcTm_T: I'm not sure... it's not an app that I am familiar with but I know how to check with apt04:38
Tm_Tclintc: ok, when it's installed and running, poke me04:39
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MisterfixitAnyone:  I need some help on finding which /dev/TTY my GPS unit is attached to .. trying to set up GPSMAN04:39
MisterfixitBus 002 Device 008: ID 091e:0003 Garmin International GPSmap04:39
foxxJust a quick question, does anybody know if there's help for KDevelop on IRC?04:39
_Robbe_Tm_T : I'll do that, I thought I'ld pop the question in here, just to be sure, it's not a standard kde thing04:39
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omega__how can i now if there is a harware problem whit my audio 5.1 sysyem?04:39
MisterfixitThis is what lsusb command reveals.  But I don't know how that relates to the actual setting within gpsman04:39
clintcTm_T: installed and running04:39
Tm_T_Robbe_: it's definately not04:39
omega__the central satelite don't play04:40
Tm_Tclintc: ok, desktop -> panels04:40
Tm_Tclintc: voil04:40
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icecruncher_Robbe_: it somwhow won't save the router a s dns04:40
clintcTm_T: yes, that is great... seems very odd not to include that in system settings... anyway Thank you!04:41
_Robbe_icecruncher : and you can't ping the router from that other pc ?04:41
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Misterfixitanyone have any ideas on my query?04:42
eagles0513875reinstalling hasnt helped04:42
eagles0513875still internet issues04:42
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eagles0513875its taken bout 20 min to download the pkg list04:42
Tm_TMisterfixit: is it usb?04:43
asfakcan anyone guide me to put my image on bootloader ?04:43
Tm_T!bootloader04:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bootloader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:44
Tm_Thum04:44
Tm_Tasfak: you mean grub?04:44
icecruncher_Robbe_: sorry, to be more precise, it wont accept the router as gateway, it keeps jumping back to 0.0.0.004:44
asfakyes04:44
Tm_Ticecruncher: check if you have knetworkmanager running04:44
eagles0513875im starting to wonder whether my problem is my modem04:44
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Tm_Tasfak: hum, I think help.ubuntu.com/community has info about it, try search04:45
hasananyone using kmldonkey?04:45
icecruncherTm_T: that's where I'm changing it04:45
BluesKajomega , in Kmix /switches/ch mode , choose 6ch04:45
Tm_Ticecruncher: I see04:45
eagles0513875ice could it be a modem problem im having04:45
Tm_Ticecruncher: I don't use it so don't know04:45
Tm_T!away | phimic|away04:46
ubotuphimic|away: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines04:46
_Robbe_icecruncher : you did reboot both ?  the stuburn pc and the router ?04:46
clintcTm_T: interesting note, when you set the size of the "universal sidebar" from small to normal you then have access to to it's hide control which fixes the problem of not being able to get to the kicker hide control04:46
icecruncher_Robbe_: dunno04:46
hasananyone using kmldonkey???04:46
Tm_Thasan: if you have problem, just say so, doing polls doesn't help04:46
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eagles0513875!kmldonkey04:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmldonkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:46
hasanok04:47
_Robbe_icecruncher : might help the sync04:47
hasanhow can i add servers from a .met file04:47
hasanin kmldonkey04:47
Tm_T"anyone using kde???" gah!04:47
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BluesKajhasan, amule ?04:47
hasankmldonkey04:47
hasani dont want to add one by one04:47
hasando i have to do it manually ?04:48
icecruncher_Robbe_: no work04:48
hasancant i make it read from a .met like file list?04:48
hasanthere are only 4 servers in kmldonkey04:48
BluesKajhasan, try amule , it's actually very good ...auto server loading etc04:48
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_Robbe_icecruncher : tried dhcp ?04:49
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_Robbe_Tm_T : for now ... yes ;-)04:49
hasannope i have tried it04:49
hasanand i wnat to use kmldonkey04:49
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icecruncher_Robbe_: that's how I'm running it04:50
icecruncher_Robbe_: but i got it working bnow, had to apply the gateway to eth0 and eth104:51
The_Machinei think it's driver related, but i'm experiencing a strange phenomenon with Kubuntu lately.  If i do CTRL+ALT+F1, and then try to switch back to my X session using CTRL+ALT+F7, i only get my cursor and I don't get anything else.  I am running beryl, and i use an nvidia video card.  Any ideas or thoughts?04:51
_Robbe_icecruncher : if that's how you're running it, you should only have to set the gateway once, on the router04:51
icecruncher_Robbe_: eth1 being the unused wifi, so i thought at first that it wasnt necessary04:51
cwo4mannhi again .. this is "misterfixit"  someone kicked me off and then tried to flood me ... I am still looking for info on the gps usb setting .. sorry if I missed the answers -- you can thank whoever decided to boot me04:51
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icecruncherlol04:51
_Robbe_icecruncher : lol, applied it to the wrong card :-)04:51
_Robbe_icecruncher : hehe, now you now04:52
bauchhi@all04:52
dromercan someone help me install grub to a chrooted usb-disk?04:52
icecruncher_Robbe_: yep04:52
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cwo4mann??04:53
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varaonaidcan the kubuntu alternate install cd be used as a livecd?04:53
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jussi01varaonaid: no04:54
nosrednaekimvaraonaid: no04:54
Miltos01hi ppl:-)04:54
varaonaidok, that's what i thought04:54
varaonaidthanks04:54
LucidFoxis it possible to make Kaffeine center the window when I open a video file?04:54
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venik212I had a power failure, and now Kubuntu comes up in a 640X480 screen resolution.  I tried to change it with System Settings, but it shows only this coarse resolution-- the beautiful 1 high resolution is gone04:55
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venik212I booted the system in Windows, and it was fine-- no problems there04:55
venik212so the monitor is fine, and so is the ATI card04:55
nosrednaekimvenik212: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:55
venik212How do I do that?04:56
DaSkreechOk So I have a bash session that is taking up 60% of my CPU04:56
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DaSkreechHow do I figure out what it's doing?04:56
jhutchins_ltDaSkreech: top?  ps ax?04:57
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DaSkreechjhutchins_lt: That tells me that it exists04:57
icecruncherhow can i stop the iptables?04:57
jhutchins_ltfixres | venik21204:57
jhutchins_lt!fixres | venik21204:58
ubotuvenik212: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:58
DaSkreechI want to know why a bash session is taking up 60% of my CPU04:58
jhutchins_lticecruncher: stop them from what?04:58
jhutchins_ltDaSkreech: Look for processes attached to that pty.04:58
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: running04:58
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jhutchins_lticecruncher: Why?04:58
DaSkreechjhutchins_lt: Just that bash session it lloks like04:58
venik212I did-- but nothing happened04:58
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icecruncherjhutchins_lt: try speed up network04:59
JuliusBonjour :)04:59
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: been trying to load ubuntu.com in konq04:59
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icecruncherjhutchins_lt: for 5 mins04:59
icecruncher!fr | Julius05:00
ubotuJulius: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:00
JuliusThanks :D05:00
icecrunchernp05:00
Julius<305:00
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jhutchins_lticecruncher: Do you have any firewall software installed?05:02
wsjuniori just noticed that bit rate for my wireless card is at 11Mb/s and should be 54 Mb/s. Trying to change it drops connection and its not possible to connect until change it back to 11 Mb/s, can anybody help me with this? its a bcm4319 card.05:02
DaSkreechBeen running for 432 minutes05:02
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: no05:02
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jhutchins_lticecruncher: Ok, you can't just kill iptables, because what iptables does is load firewall rules into the kernel.05:03
jhutchins_lthang on a sec...05:03
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: well is ther any other way to speed up the network? ipv6 is disabled already05:04
_Robbe_Can Kubuntu's konqueror show drives by default like Ubuntu, rather then hide them ?05:04
nosrednaekim_Robbe_: yes05:04
_Robbe_nosrednaekim : how exactly ?05:05
venik212can anyone help me resore my screen to its high resolution mode?05:05
jhutchins_lticecruncher: In a console, try iptables -L, see if it lists any rules.05:05
_Robbe_nosrednaekim : some setting in konqueror or in the system settings ?05:05
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DaSkreech!fixres | venik21205:05
ubotuvenik212: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:05
jhutchins_ltvenik212: Did you look at the link ubotu sent you?05:05
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icecruncherjhutchins_lt: it only shows that chains input , forward, output are on accept05:06
jhutchins_lticecruncher: Ok, then that's not the problem.05:07
jhutchins_lticecruncher: Does firefox have the same problem as knoqueror?05:07
nosrednaekim_Robbe_: which drives, are you talking hard drives?05:07
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icecruncherjhutchins_lt:      it's not installed, this is fresh install05:07
DaSkreechDoes anyone have krfcommd running ?05:07
jhutchins_lticecruncher: Well, it would be a useful tool.05:08
_Robbe_nosrednaekim : yeps, local HD's, parts of a local HD and HD's over a network05:08
jhutchins_lticecruncher: You can also check network performance with the host, ping, and traceroute commands.05:08
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icecruncherjhutchins_lt: ping gives me regular speeds05:08
jhutchins_ltDaSkreech: I though we had established that krf is a bad idea.05:08
nosrednaekim_Robbe_: enter "media:/" into the location bar05:08
DaSkreechjhutchins_lt: Well I have it running05:09
jhutchins_lticecruncher: Does host respond quickly?05:09
_Robbe_nosrednaekim : that only shows my usb drives05:09
DaSkreechI don't remember starting half of these processes05:09
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: mo05:09
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icecruncher*no05:09
jhutchins_ltOk, that's suspicious.05:09
DaSkreechyeah05:09
jhutchins_lticecruncher: That looks like you maybe didn't disable ipv6 after all.  You did restart, right?05:09
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: yep05:09
jhutchins_lticecruncher: What did you do to disable it?05:10
Miltos01ppl help!!! after upgrading to kubuntu 7.10 I can NOT see the desktop enviroment...05:10
icecruncherin the aliases file, deleted ipvd and types off 9net-pff 10 i think)05:10
crdlbMiltos01, 7.10, not 7.04?05:11
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jhutchins_lticecruncher: That's not the right way to do it.05:11
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icecruncherk05:11
_Robbe_nosrednaekim : correction it shows 'em now, but it isn't able to mount them and show it's content05:11
venik212THat Howto talks about a command ATICONFIG, which dch does not exist on my system, and does not appear in Adewdept05:11
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icecruncherjhutchins_lt: rather this way http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202838?05:12
venik212Adept05:12
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venik212(it is hard typing on 640X480..)05:12
nosrednaekim_Robbe_: are these local, permanant drives?05:12
jhutchins_lticecruncher: What does ip a | grep ipv6 show?05:12
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: nothing05:13
Miltos01crdlb...I think its 7.04...05:13
_Robbe_nosrednaekim : yes, there is just one that is a switch drive05:13
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DaSkreechMiltos01: can you login and type lsb_release -a05:13
jhutchins_lticecruncher: Ok, that line that has both protocols listed is incorrect, but the other two appear to be working.05:14
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: k I'll edit and reboot05:14
Miltos01DaSkreech...just a minute to give it a try...yes I think I can login05:14
DaSkreechMiltos01: thanks05:14
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dromerhow do I activate the kqemu accelerator?05:15
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jhutchins_lticecruncher: Ok, that's not really going to fix the problem, it's just maintenance.05:15
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The_Machinei think it's driver related, but i'm experiencing a strange phenomenon with Kubuntu lately.  If i do CTRL+ALT+F1, and then try to switch back to my X session using CTRL+ALT+F7, i only get my cursor and I don't get anything else.  I am running beryl, and i use an nvidia video card.  Any ideas or thoughts?05:16
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: :005:16
_Robbe_nosrednaekim : that's a drive that enables to enter several different HD's, it's a storage thing, the errors claim a 999 uid05:16
DaSkreechjhutchins_lt: the bash shell was started with !??!05:16
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jhutchins_ltDaSkreech: Hm?  How about just kill the shell?05:17
DaSkreechThe_Machine: you can sk in #ubuntu-effects05:17
Miltos01Daskreech...it still reports Ubuntu Edgy v6.1005:17
nosrednaekim_Robbe_: go to system settings->advanced->disks05:17
DaSkreechjhutchins_lt: naw I sent it a sigstop05:17
jhutchins_lticecruncher: Tell me about your connection.05:17
nosrednaekim_Robbe_: and change all those drives to be able to be mounted by the normal user05:17
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DaSkreechMiltos01: Hmm you may not have finished the update05:17
jhutchins_ltDaSkreech: Kill is a generic term.05:17
DaSkreechMiltos01: type sudo dpkg --configure -a05:18
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icecruncherjhutchins_lt: toshiba laptop on dhcp (like the rest of the network) to a hub, then to a router05:18
DaSkreechjhutchins_lt: nice defence05:18
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Miltos01DasKreech: just a minute05:18
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: me on a desktop, also working on dhcp, talking ot you right now05:18
icecruncherjhutchins_lt; same setup05:19
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jhutchins_lticecruncher: I presume that the laptop is the slow one, the desktop's ok, and the router is providing DHCP service?05:21
JuJuBeeWhat should I copy to /etc/skel if I just created  a user account I wish to use as a template?05:21
icecruncherjhutyep05:21
JuJuBeeMenus etc...05:21
Miltos01DaSkreech: It finished the sudo dpkg --configure -a, now what next?05:22
jhutchins_lticecruncher: What is in /etc/resolv.conf on the laptop?  Is it different from what's on the desktop?05:22
DaSkreechMiltos01: Was it installing things?05:22
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Miltos01DaSkreech: yes, a few..05:23
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: same05:23
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DaSkreechMiltos01: try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start05:23
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: both being the router05:23
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Miltos01DaSkreech: Ok...wait05:23
jhutchins_lticecruncher: Try replacing the router with your isp's dns ip's on the laptop.  No need to reboot, see if the host command works faster.05:23
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: it doesn't have one05:24
jhutchins_lticecruncher: You have to have an external dns somewhere - the router will have one - otherwise nobody would be able to resolve external IP's.05:25
jhutchins_lticecruncher: you can use opendns if you have to.05:25
Miltos01DaSkreech: Kdm is already running05:25
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DaSkreechMiltos01: Press alt+ctrl+f705:26
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: no it's automatic, that's what my dad told me...05:26
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amin81hi everyone05:26
nosrednaekimhello05:26
amin81i have tried to come online for 1 1/2 hours now with no success05:27
nosrednaekimbut now you can?05:27
amin81i am online with a windows machine05:27
DaSkreechamin81: good job on getting that solved then05:27
jhutchins_lticecruncher: Automatic what?  The info has to come from somewhere.05:27
JuJuBeeAnyone have an idea about what I copy to /etc/skel from the current account so any new accounts get the same kmenu's etc?05:27
amin81temporary solution :)05:27
_Robbe_nosrednaekim : that seems to do have done it, any idea why that's not like ubuntu (not only owned by the root) ?05:27
jhutchins_lticecruncher: Most likely, the router is picking up the DNS info via DHCP from your ISP.05:27
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icecruncherjhutchins_lt; yes05:27
JuJuBeeI tried .local/share but that didn't seem to work.05:27
amin81next i want to try to setup my network settings statically05:27
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icecruncherjhutchins_lt: sounds ok :)05:28
nosrednaekim_Robbe_: Gnome let you mount them?05:28
amin81anybody know how to find the network info in windows under cmd?05:28
JuJuBeeThe kmenu does not have the menu items I added.05:28
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: i can give you reads from the router05:28
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_Robbe_nosrednaekim : from the setup05:28
nosrednaekimamin81: #windows05:28
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Miltos01DasKreech: the cursor is blinking on the upper left corner of the screen...05:28
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nosrednaekim_Robbe_: hmm. well I don't know how the gome volume manager works05:28
DaSkreechMiltos01: Hmm05:28
jhutchins_lticecruncher: try this:  Open resolv.conf on the laptop(kdesu kate /etc/resolv,conf); remove the "nameserver" line, and add "nameserver 208.67.222.222" and "nameserver 208.67.222.220".  Save, and check host resolution.05:29
DaSkreechMiltos01: Alt+ctrl+F1 and press up then change start to stop05:29
amin81nosrednaekim: there is one command so you get the whole network info of your network card such as bcast and ip05:29
amin81nosrednaekim: that is the only command i need to proceed05:29
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jhutchins_ltamin81: /sbin/ifconfig05:30
nosrednaekimamin81: in windows? I don't know... thats why I referred you to #windows05:30
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: check hsot res?05:30
icecruncherhost res05:30
_Robbe_amin81 : ipconfig for windows05:30
jhutchins_lticecruncher: You said that the command "host" was responding slowly05:30
amin81_Robbe_: thanks!05:30
_Robbe_ipconfig all for everything05:30
_Robbe_np05:30
jhutchins_lticecruncher: There is a known problem with routers not providing DNS resolution quickly.05:30
jhutchins_lt_Robbe_: That's windows.05:31
Miltos01DaSkreech: I can not stop it...05:31
DaSkreechamin81: ipconfig /all05:31
_Robbe_I know, that's what he asked05:31
jhutchins_lt_Robbe_: D'Oh!05:31
ADiCT3D!windows05:31
DaSkreechMiltos01: with sudo ?05:31
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents05:31
amin81DaSkreech: thanks05:31
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: k, even ping is slow05:31
Miltos01DaSKreech: with sudo what?05:31
DaSkreechMiltos01: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop05:32
jhutchins_lticecruncher: You mean after you made the changes, it's slower?05:32
Miltos01DaSkreech: wait...05:32
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: yes, a bit05:32
_Robbe_nosrednaekim : an a related subject, any idea how I could remain a root user at all time ?05:32
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: both host and ping05:32
amin81ok, disconnecting now to try to get online with linux...:)05:33
jhutchins_lticecruncher: how about ping to a numeric address instead of a hostname?05:33
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nosrednaekim_Robbe_: on the command line "su -i" I believe05:33
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nosrednaekim_Robbe_: or "sudo passwd root"05:33
nosrednaekim_Robbe_: and then "su"05:33
BluesKajscuse my interupt here , jhutchins_lt, icecruncher ...would the hub have something to do with the problem ,or is it strictly a passthru ?05:33
Dr_willisshame shame. :)05:33
jhutchins_ltnosrednaekim: That's not correct.05:33
nosrednaekimthich one?05:34
_Robbe_nosrednaekim : thought that 2nd one was to alter the root pass, anyhow thanks a lot :-)05:34
Dr_willisTheres really no need to enable a root pasword.  heh.05:34
ADiCT3Dnosrednaekim: Hey man is the dog...05:34
jhutchins_ltnosrednaekim: su should always use su -, and enabling root login defeats several security provisions on ubuntu.05:34
jhutchins_lt!sudo05:34
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:34
nosrednaekimADiCT3D: huh?05:34
jhutchins_lt!kdesu05:34
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo05:34
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ADiCT3D!windows05:34
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents05:34
Miltos01DaSkreech: thanks!!! it worked...should I'll try the update now...or leave it?05:34
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: quite a bit faster for the google ip05:34
nosrednaekimjhutchins_lt: yeah I know. But he asked how he could remain the root user, so I told him05:34
Schuenemann!doesn't work05:35
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.05:35
jhutchins_ltBluesKaj: Yeah, I think he needs to test bypassing the hub and the router.05:35
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icecruncherBluesKaj: strictly passthrough05:35
jhutchins_ltnosrednaekim: Ok, just remember that it's su -, not just su.05:35
BluesKajor directly into the router , jhutchins_lt05:35
icecruncherBluesKaj: no it's fine05:35
nosrednaekimk05:36
DaSkreechMiltos01: yes finish the update05:36
jhutchins_lticecruncher: you need to bypass the hub and connect directly to the router, and possibly try connecting directly to the cable modem (whatever) and bypass the router.  If it's still slow, it's probably your network card.05:36
BluesKajwhy a hub in the first place , icecruncher?05:36
icecruncherBluesKaj: multiple comps, no server05:36
Miltos01DaSkreech: I am a little bit afraid...that it will hung my system again...05:36
jhutchins_lticecruncher: It doesn't really matter, those are th enext things to try.05:36
DaSkreechMiltos01: We are here to help05:37
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BluesKajbut you are running a router , you can network several pcs off it05:37
Miltos01DaSkreech: thanks...I will give it a try...05:37
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jhutchins_lticecruncher: We need to eliminate the possibility that it's a bad port or a problem with the hub or router.05:38
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: kl just a sec05:38
bordy240Anyone know a good way to convert avi to m4v? I tried the avi-2-m4v thing from kde-apps and it doesnt seem to work for me05:38
Dr_willistry that avidumix?05:39
Dr_willis!find avid05:39
ubotuFound: avida-base, avida-qt-viewer, avida-viewer, sword-comm-tdavid, avidemux05:39
Dr_willisI never can spell it right05:39
Dr_willisavidemux05:39
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jhutchins_ltbordy240: lots of ways, mplayer, avidemux, transcode. Google transcode video linux05:39
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: when running win, it works though05:39
bordy240oh thanks, I was dribing myself crazy05:39
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jhutchins_lticecruncher: Irrelevant.05:39
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jhutchins_lticecruncher: but it's likely to be a problem with the net card driver.05:40
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: even bad port on hub?05:40
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: true05:40
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sahello everyone, amin81 here05:40
jhutchins_lticecruncher: differnt mtu or other default could do it.05:40
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jhutchins_lticecruncher: Since you don't need iptables, you can just uninstall it, or at least set it not to start at boot.05:41
jhutchins_lticecruncher: It's not the problem, but you don't need it.05:41
sait works05:41
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: k lol05:42
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: how can I find out what network card it is?05:42
jhutchins_ltBluesKaj: Or the router has multiple ports, but they're full, or it's a matter of location, multiple computers in a room removed from the router.05:42
pc02helloooooo05:42
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icecruncherjhutchins_lt: nope about the multiple ports05:43
pc02algien en espaol????05:43
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jhutchins_lt!es | pc0205:43
ubotupc02: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:43
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chillhola gente05:43
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nosrednaekim!es | pc0205:44
ubotupc02: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:44
chillalguien mas cree que la funcion bloq mayus esta jodida en linux?05:44
pc02gracias05:44
BluesKajmust be an oldetime router , only one port, icecruncher05:44
jhutchins_ltchill: No hablo.05:44
icecruncherBluesKaj: yep05:44
chillsorry05:44
chilli misread05:44
chillbut now i see, english only05:44
icecruncherjhutchins_lt BluesKaj: the net card is an intel 82801DB Pro05:45
jhutchins_ltchill: No problem, we just don't speak spanish well enough to help.05:45
chillwhats the command to open the control center?05:45
TeraDynechill: sudo kcontrol05:46
jhutchins_ltchill: kdesu kcontrol05:46
Dr_willisNo Hoblo.05:46
chillhuh?05:46
jhutchins_ltchill: lag.05:46
Dr_willisIt never fails -  i say that  and everyone then starts asking me things in Spanish... :)05:46
chillok thx =D05:46
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DaSkreechDr_willis: Si?05:46
jhutchins_ltDr_willis: Well, it helps that you mis-spelled it.05:46
Dr_willis:)05:47
Dr_willisHigh-School Spanish...05:47
Dr_willisegads that was like... a long time ago.05:47
TeraDyneAnyone know of a good CLI podcatcher besides BashPodder, or a GUI one that's similar to Ipodder?05:48
chillanother thing...05:48
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TheInfinityhmm ... as a newbie - i found a bug in a drupal module. but if i change something in the modules (its a header modification) and relaod the side still the old version is shown. why? :)05:48
icecruncherjhutchins_lt BluesKaj: 100 Ve05:48
DaSkreechwget ?05:48
chilli have this program gmountiso downloaded from the universe repositories, but is in french, is there a way that i can translate the code and compile it again?05:48
chillwhere should i go05:48
chilli don't want to wait until the author translate it in launchpad05:49
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chilli can do it my self05:49
chillbut i dont know where to start or go05:49
TeraDyneTheInfinity: You might want to ask in Drupal's chat room or forums. I don't think there are many drupal experts here.05:49
icecruncherchill: the first is image the second is mount point05:49
TheInfinityoh damn wrong channel ;)05:49
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jhutchins_ltchill: There's probably something about translation/internationalisation on the wiki page.05:50
chillmmm "google it" okay05:50
BluesKajicecruncher, i have to ask the obvious , have you upgraded kde recently ?05:51
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icecruncherBluesKaj: it' sdirectly from the 7.04 alternate05:51
icecruncherBluesKaj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2695357 has the same prob, no solutiion lol05:52
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DaSkreechMiltos01: How is it going?05:53
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UbuntuServerUserWhen editing out fstab, (following http://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p3) I'm adding a mount thats already there (in /mnt) I installled quota, should I add quota to my second HDD hdb1 where I want the quota and users to login from samba? what do lal the 0's mean after that in the tutorial?05:55
jhutchins_lticecruncher: should be using the ee100 driver, no known problems.05:55
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: how can I check if it's really using the driver?05:55
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jhutchins_lticecruncher: I do see that a lot of people who have that card are actually using a wireless connection...05:55
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jhutchins_lticecruncher: lsmod05:55
kubuntianhello everybody05:55
ricardohi!.. good morning from Mexico...  well, my question:  Does somebody know an irc chanel about ie conditional comments?... I'va got a trouble with that.05:56
jhutchins_lticecruncher: lsmod | grep ee05:56
dave_EVERYONE!! what are your favorite five states?05:56
juan278if im compiling for use on kubuntu 7.10 what options should i use? should i enable embeded qt?05:56
jhutchins_ltricardo: You might ask in ##windows05:56
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icecruncherjhutchins_lt: k, well I do have wireless built in, but no way to use it05:56
nosrednaekimdave_: !offtopic05:56
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jhutchins_lticecruncher: No access point.05:56
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dave_thanks!!!05:56
clouder`grrHow can I get an overview of which files/folders are taking up the most space05:57
ricardo##windows?.... well thanks so!05:57
jhutchins_lticecruncher: You could try a couple of different live CD's, see if the problem is the same with different distros.05:57
kubuntiani was trying to have my ipod device to be /dev/ipod. I followed the guite at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuIpod, first i created a rule 10-local.rule and pasted the string referred to the guide, then i restarted the udev manager. However, when i plugged in my ipod the desired device wasn't created and a sdb instance was in /dev......... somebody can help me?05:57
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: yup and the lsmod shows a buch of stuff05:57
jhutchins_lticecruncher: Mandriva, knoppix, debian live.05:57
nosrednaekimclouder`grr: there is a nice gnome utility for it.05:57
chillclouder`grr use konqueror05:57
nosrednaekimclouder`grr: lemme find the name05:57
jhutchins_lticecruncher: Should show the ee100 module loaded.05:57
chillit has a space usage view mode05:57
clouder`grrchill: that full view thing?05:58
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icecruncherjhutchins_lt: how should it show that05:58
nosrednaekimclouder`grr: search for disk usage analyzer05:58
chillmmm no05:58
trakinasquestion: which is the xorg installed by Kubuntu?05:58
nosrednaekim!info disk usage analyzer05:58
nosrednaekimtrakinas: in 7.04, 7.205:58
chillclouder`grr: in konqueror the view modes the lasto ne05:58
trakinasthanks.05:58
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clouder`grrchill: ahh thanks05:59
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chillyour welcome05:59
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chillhow can i disable those messafe?05:59
chillits anoying and i don't need to know who just joinned05:59
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: not there05:59
trakinasquestion 2: how do I make IDE devices not to be "SCSI devices"? my cd-rom works in this way, but not my dvd drive, which works perfectly on Gentoo.06:00
nosrednaekimtrakinas: its the kernel version.06:00
jhutchins_lticecruncher: Pastebin your whole lsmod06:00
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trakinasnosrednaekim: but I kind of failed trying to switch kernels on KUbuntu.06:01
trakinasnosrednaekim: Is it better IDE devices be "SCSIed"06:01
trakinas?06:01
kubuntianhello?!? so, somebody can help me with my ipod configuration?06:01
nosrednaekimtrakinas: yeah, its fine... its the new libata06:01
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chillkubuntian: what do you want to know?06:02
nosrednaekimkubuntian: whats the problem?06:02
kubuntian i was trying to have my ipod device to be /dev/ipod. I followed the guite at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuIpod, first i created a rule 10-local.rule and pasted the string referred to the guide, then i restarted the udev manager. However, when i plugged in my ipod the desired device wasn't created and a sdb instance was in /dev......... somebody can help me?06:02
DaSkreech!ipod06:02
ramii want to uninstall kubuntu and only use GNOME06:02
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod06:02
DaSkreechHmm06:02
ramibut i cant seem to get ridof it properly06:03
DaSkreechrami: sudo aptitiude remove kdelibs2c4a06:03
Evolution2!wine06:03
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:03
trakinaskubuntian: I mouted my sister's ipod on gentoo, but never used it on kubuntu. you can tey gentoo's guide, but i dont know in which level gentoo and kubuntu are different in dealing with udev.06:03
Evolution2thanks Ubo06:03
ramidoes that remove all the programs too?06:03
jhutchins_lt!bot06:04
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:04
trakinasnosrednaekim: so, which kernel would you recommend? because not having my dvd drive working isnt good.06:04
DaSkreechrami: anything to do with KDE06:04
ramity!06:04
jhutchins_lt!botsnack06:04
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!06:04
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jhutchins_lticecruncher: Do you have the latest kernel?06:04
nosrednaekimtrakinas: well, its kinda hard to switch whole kernel versions in ubuntu06:04
Evolution2whats the latest KDE advancement version available?06:04
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jhutchins_lt!v kernel06:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about v kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:04
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icecruncherjhutchins_lt: second to latest06:04
trakinasnosrednaekim: no kidding! =P06:05
nosrednaekimtrakinas: you need something b4 2.6.1906:05
jhutchins_lt!info kernel06:05
ubotuPackage kernel does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas06:05
trakinasnosrednaekim: 2.6.17 on gentoo. hehe06:05
raminot found06:05
ramii still have the boot screen and stuff06:05
nosrednaekimyeah... well libata is still under heavy development06:05
kubuntiantrakinas: is there a place where i can understand where the udev rule fails to match the ipod recognizement?06:05
jhutchins_lticecruncher: You can always try updating, see if that helps.06:05
ramii tried in synaptic first06:05
trakinasso, old-fashion way? download kernel and kernel headers and do it all by hand?06:05
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: with no internet connection ? lol06:06
trakinaskubuntian: i dont know. try gentoo wiki.06:06
nosrednaekimjhutchins_lt: should I be worried that ubuntu doesn't have a kernel ;)06:06
ramibut that was'nt working all properly....06:06
DaSkreechrami: THat's the kernel when you update your kernel next it will switch over to ubuntu06:06
rami!bot06:06
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:06
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27635/06:06
ramiok06:06
trakinashttp://gentoo-wiki.com/Special:Search?search=ipod&go=Go06:07
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kubuntian!udev06:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about udev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:08
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kubuntian!ipod06:08
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod06:08
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Hunding!rockbox06:08
uboturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!06:09
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jhutchins_lticecruncher: It's the e100 module that the mii module is linked to.06:10
rami!help06:10
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:10
rami!ipod06:10
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod06:10
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: ? but in the lsmod it's not right?06:11
jhutchins_lticecruncher: No, it's fine.06:11
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: nm06:11
jhutchins_lticecruncher: We know it's there, because it's connecting, even if it's slow.06:11
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: ping works fine now, but konq wont load06:12
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: dunno why06:12
ramii'll just reinstall ubuntu...06:12
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Evolution2i just downloaded an iconset but i dont know to what directory. can someone help me find them06:12
mat1980Evolution2: which program have you used?06:13
Evolution2just firefox off the net06:13
Evolution2crystal project iconset06:13
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jhutchins_lticecruncher: Best thing I can suggest within kubuntu is to upgrade to the latest kernel and see if that does anything, and to try other distros to see if they're any different.06:14
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icecruncherjhutchins_lt: k06:14
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: thnks a lot06:14
Schuenemannhow to upgrade to KDE 3.5.7?06:14
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Evolution2Schuenemann: you need to get the sources.list for that06:15
Schuenemannwhich is it?06:15
Evolution2http://pastebin.ca/38981606:16
Schuenemannwhich lines?06:16
Evolution2Schuenemann: type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:16
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Schuenemannyou have lots of 3rd party repos06:17
Evolution2and delete your whole list with the one in that site06:17
Evolution2hot reallu06:17
Evolution2really*06:17
Evolution2not*06:17
Schuenemanncan't you tell me the only one I need?06:17
Evolution2they should already be there06:17
Evolution2all you need are the sources for your 3.5.706:18
GrahamSeems to be a lot of updates to compiz. I ugpraded yesterday and there's new packages on already.06:18
Schuenemanndude, I might have other repos I need, you want me to replace them all?06:18
Evolution2just copy and paste from that site06:18
Evolution2into your sources06:18
Evolution2and make sure you have an open line at the botton06:19
Evolution2m06:19
Evolution2then save06:19
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Evolution2after that do sudo apt-get update06:19
Evolution2and see what happens06:19
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jhutchins_ltGraham: Compiz is alpha testing software.06:20
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ninHerhi all06:27
nosredahello06:28
ksivajihi06:28
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jussi01hi ksivaji pls dont pm without asking...06:30
icecruncher!kernel06:30
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild06:30
icecruncherwhere can I download the latest kernel?06:30
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ksivajijussi01 ok06:30
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ksivajijussi01 sorry06:31
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BluesKajicecruncher, warning , my last kernel update screwed up Grub..if you have awindows partition then be warned06:31
patrick_I have a question about port 8006:31
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jussi01patrick_: go on...06:31
hasanhow can i obtain high id in kmldonkey?06:31
icecruncherBluesKaj: crap really?06:31
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Miltos01DaSkreech:are you in?06:32
ksivajijussi01 pm ksivaji06:32
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patrick_when I surf the web-site and cannot access it.. However, I have accessed before06:32
jussi01ksivaji: what is it you need?06:32
BluesKajicecruncher, i was able to solve the prob ...make sure your fstab is clean and not corrupted like mine was06:33
icecruncherBluesKaj: lol06:33
icecruncherBluesKaj: it is06:33
jussi01patrick_: port 80 is http... if you surf the web you are using it...06:33
icecruncherBluesKaj: fstab untouched since sys install06:33
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ArwenBluesKaj, funny, my last kernel update hasn't changed anything...06:33
ksivajijussi01 i need  your help but it seems you are not ready to  help me06:34
hasanhow i can i add servers to kmldonkey?06:34
BluesKajok , icecruncher , but i dunnop if that's gonna sove your internet prob06:34
Miltos01ppl help!!! after trying the update to kubuntu v7.04 my system hangs on checking the file system...06:34
icecruncherBluesKaj: lol06:34
ArwenMiltos01, do a clean install then06:34
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jussi01ksivaji: I can try to help, but what is wrong with talking here?06:34
patrick_jussi01....Is there any block action by my ISP ???06:34
icecruncherBluesKaj: what distro should I try?06:34
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jussi01patrick_: ahouldnt be...06:34
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BluesKajArwen, my fstab was screwed up due to my fooling with partiton mounts06:35
Arwenhah06:35
Arwenbut then it's not the fault of the kernel..06:35
patrick_JUSSI01... I have a router between my PC and ADSL modem !06:35
ksivajijussi01 i have some general questions06:35
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BluesKajat least that's my conclusion06:35
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icecruncherso where can I get the kernel?06:35
Arwenus.archive.ubuntu.com.... or just apt-get install linux-image-blah06:35
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jussi01ksivaji: ask then...06:36
icecruncherimage?06:36
BluesKajwell Arwen , i can't be absolutely sure about the kernel not changing things06:36
Miltos01ppl help!!! after trying the update to kubuntu v7.04 my system hangs on checking the file system...06:36
Arwen.....your kernel can't break other partitions or grub... less you mount those partitions of course06:36
ArwenMiltos01, so do a fresh install06:36
Arwendon't repeat questions that have been answered06:37
ksivajijussi01 i am interested in doing software project  but i dont know how to start06:37
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jussi01ksivaji: what programming languages  do you know?06:38
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icecruncherto update the kernel is it enought to updat the headers?06:38
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ksivajijussi01 c\c++\java06:38
BluesKajI'm still tempted to reinstall windows on separate partiton , but i continue to resist , it's like quitting smoking ...dunno why. Old habits die hard i guess.06:38
Arwenicecruncher, well, if you update the headers, you can compile stuff for the new kernel, but you won't be able to use it06:38
jussi01ksivaji: so what do you want to write?06:38
icecruncherArwen: i'dunno, I need to update the kernel on a machine with no internet06:39
Arwenhmm, you need the linux-image-generic, linux-image-someversionnumber-generic package06:40
Grahamjhutchins_lt: Are you saying that the updates are released regually?06:40
patrick_One more question... I also cannot open the flickr' pictures.. only see the icons neither the thumbnails.06:40
Arwenif you need new headers, that's linux-headers-generic and linux-headers-someversion06:40
jussi01ksivaji: what kind of client side program? what do you want it to do?06:41
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ksivajijussi01     i am not sure i want to do something small program06:42
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jhutchins_ltGraham: I'm saying it's so broken they have plenty to fix and plenty to update.  It's a very active project, that's why the updates keep coming.  Since the project's so unstable in the first place, a new upgrade isn't going to do much damange.06:43
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jhutchins_ltGraham: They also just merged beryl back into compiz, so all that forked code has to be reconciled.06:43
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jhutchins_ltpatrick_: That's probably a javascript thing, check your settings; I usually find that java works better in firefox than konq.06:44
jussi01ksivaji: jump into #ubuntu-motu and ask there06:44
jhutchins_lticecruncher: No internet, or just slow internet?06:44
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: slow, no downloads06:45
ksivajijussi01 ok thank you06:45
Grahamjhutchins_lt: Yeah.06:45
jhutchins_lticecruncher: Download the files on a different box.06:45
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icecruncherjhutchins_lt: yep, just trying to find them06:45
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icecruncherbut now comes bed06:45
icecruncherit's 12 already06:45
icecruncherlol06:45
jhutchins_lticecruncher: Only quarter till!06:46
jhutchins_ltGMT+6?06:46
icecruncherjhutchins_lt: been a long day06:46
icecruncher:)06:46
icecruncherGMT+706:47
icecrunchernight all06:47
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MrKimmHey all!06:52
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RictooHow do I list all the X servers in shell?06:52
MrKimmI'm having some problems with Kubuntu... it might seem like a trivial problem, but I have no idea of how to change my screenres (I came from Ubuntu and would like to set it down to a lower resolution)06:53
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ksivaji!pm06:54
ubotuPlease ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.06:54
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hasanhow can i changer mod for a folder and for all the folder and files inside it?06:55
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hasanchmod 755 folder changes only folder not what's inside06:56
ksivajihasan chmod 777 /folder06:56
MrKimmhasan, I think it is chmod -R 777 /folder :)06:57
ksivajihasan right click->permission->06:57
hasanok -R does it06:57
hasanthx MrKimm06:57
flakeksivaji  what are you wanting to do06:58
MrKimmhasan, np :)06:58
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ksivajiflake sorry i am not smart enough to understand your English06:59
MrKimmCan anyone tell me how to change screen resoluton in KDE?? I cant find it...06:59
hasanhow can i copy a folder and its content to another place with tar?06:59
hasanfor speeding things up ?06:59
hasannot with cp -r command07:00
flakeksivaji - sorry,  what type of program do you want to code07:00
hasani have read somthing like that but i dont remember how it exactly was07:00
MrKimmhasan, sorry, I cant help you there :)07:00
ksivajiflake not sure07:00
ksivajiflake i am just beginner07:01
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hasannp07:01
ksivajiflake pm07:01
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ksivaji drarem.07:01
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draremksivaji, are you registered07:04
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bbeck_Does anyone know how to use KNetworkManager to connect to a network?  Everytime I try to connect to one of the available wireless networks I never get a prompt for the login credentials.07:05
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coreymon77bbeck_: try using the iwconfig command07:07
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coreymon77bbeck_: i personally dont find knetworkmanager in the least bit reliable, so i tend to suggest using alternative methods, such as the good old fashioned konsole command07:08
bbeck_coreymon77: I can join a network using that command?  Can you give me an example?07:08
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coreymon77sure07:08
MrKimmAnyone? How do I change KDE screen-resolution?? this is not an xorg.conf problem... I want to get a lower resolution07:08
coreymon77bbeck_: the skelleton iwconfgi command is as follows: sudo iwconfig [interface, such as eth1, ra0 or ath0]  essid [your network name]  key [wep key-if applicable] 07:10
msetimwhich player you use to watch videos, movies ???07:10
msetimthat have suppor to legend07:10
coreymon77bbeck_: an example of my command is sudo iwconfig ath0 essid [my network name]  key [my wep key] 07:10
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coreymon77bbeck_: you follow me?07:11
lynskynno07:11
jriachihello07:11
bbeck_coreymon77: I do, I'm going to try it out now.07:11
lynskynhi07:11
jriachiwith konqueror, can you see this page:    http://skotesperanto.blogspot.com/2007/02/apelisto.html ?   , i get squares instead of some characters ( seems like a utf-8 problem :S )07:12
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jhutchins_ltjriachi: No problems here.07:13
coreymon77jriachi: yup, squares typically mean that the particular program yo are using (or your entire system) cant read or recognize a certain charset07:14
jriachijhutchins_lt: did you modified the fonts or something?07:15
jriachicoreymon77: it is funny, because if i copy the square and paste it in the address bar (e.g.) , i can see the character  ^^;07:15
jhutchins_ltjriachi: I have the windows core fonts, as well as a bunch of others.07:15
MrKimmI found something that might solve my problems: 'resapplet'07:15
jriachijhutchins_lt: can you look at konqueror->settings->fonts, and tell me you configuration?07:16
draremksivaji are you here07:16
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dhqis there any messenger with voice07:18
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jhutchins_ltjriachi: I think it's a matter of charsets, not fonts, but mine says "Sans Serif".07:20
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jhutchins_ltjriachi: It's the font/charset specified in the web page stylesheet you need to check.07:20
Tm_Tdhq: messenger?07:21
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dhqTm_T,  do you know of any voice messengers for yahoo msn etc07:21
jhutchins_lt!equivalents | dhq07:22
ubotudhq: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant07:22
jhutchins_ltkopete, gaim/pidgin, lots.07:22
Tm_Tjhutchins_lt: neither of those two support _voice_07:22
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Tm_Tin those protocols anyway07:22
Tm_TKopete could have Jabber voice support, but it's lottery at best to get it working07:23
jhutchins_ltdhq: Ah, voip.07:23
Tm_T!voip07:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about voip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:23
Tm_Thum07:23
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jhutchins_ltskype is the only one I know of.07:23
Tm_Tthat definately needs factoid07:23
dhqjhutchins, most of my friends are on yahoo and hotmail07:23
jhutchins_ltVoice Over IP.07:23
Tm_Tthere's tons of sip apps07:23
jhutchins_ltTm_T: All of which are easy to use if you're a telephony engineer.07:23
dhqTm_T, well name me the best one you know of link me07:24
jussi01gizmo!07:24
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jriachijhutchins_lt: i found it: it was because the css said "use Vera Bitstream if possible", an my vera bitstream had no unicode support or something. Just uninstalled vera, and i can see the symbols07:24
Tm_Tdhq: I don't use them so don't know "best"07:24
jussi01www.gizmoproject.com07:24
dhqvivek_, you using bsnl07:24
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dhqTm_T, give me any one software07:25
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daStickwhat's happening?07:25
oscarhi!!07:26
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oscarhow are you??07:26
daStickim great thanx07:26
daStickyou?07:26
bassei'm great too07:26
daStickwhooa kewl07:26
oscargood07:26
oscarim from italy you??07:26
jhutchins_ltI have not found a linux project that will work with any of the mainstream voice/video services.07:27
dhqoh07:27
jhutchins_ltAll I've seen are ones that will work (only) with themselves.07:27
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Tm_T!it | oscar07:28
ubotuoscar: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:28
Tm_Tdhq: look what jussi01 mentioned07:28
oscarascolta perche non mi internet solo la chat07:28
oscarcome devo fare07:28
Tm_Toscar: no, look again what ubotu said07:28
Tm_Toscar: look it well07:28
dhqTm_T, huh07:29
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jussi01dhq: [20:24]  <jussi01> www.gizmoproject.com07:29
oscarcome faccio a connetermi07:30
oscarzio bono mi va solo la chat07:30
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Tm_T!it | oscar07:30
ubotuoscar: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:30
Tm_Toscar: read it well  thank you07:31
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TeraDyneAnyone know if there's a way to change the colors of the OSX-style menu bar?07:34
Tm_TTeraDyne: doesn't it follow KDE colour settings?07:35
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rustalotAmarok isn't showing any of the .ogg files in my 'music' folder07:35
Tm_Trustalot: tell more07:35
TeraDyneTm_T: I don't see an option for it in the color settings.07:36
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TeraDyneTm_t: and it didn't change with the rest of my colors when I changed the scheme07:36
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Tm_TTeraDyne: interesting07:37
rustalotTm_T: my system is as follows: ~/media/music/$ARTIST/$ALBUM/$SONG, and I have some that are in mp3, and ones ripped more recently are .ogg.07:37
jhutchins_lt#amarok07:37
rustalotTm_T: all the mp3 files show, but none of the ogg files do.07:37
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Tm_Trustalot: show in _where_ ?07:38
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hitmanWillyok, anyone who says windows is easier than nix is on crack...07:39
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rustalotTm_T: the 'collection' part. I tried 'Update' and 'Rescan" but they didn't work07:39
hitmanWillyjust spent the last three hours trying to clean mcafee off my brothers laptop07:39
Gazhey :)07:39
Tm_Trustalot: ->07:39
Gazi am downloading a file07:39
vzduchevening :)07:39
Gazwhich ends with the extension .run :)07:40
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Gazmy question is:07:40
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Gazonce the file has finished07:40
jhutchins_lt!enter | gaz07:40
ubotugaz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!07:40
Gazhow do i 'run' the .run file ? :)07:40
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coreymon77hitmanWilly: unless you call wizards for anything and everything short of picking your @$$ (atleast, last time i checked they didnt have one for that :P) "easier"07:40
Gazokay :)07:40
Gazwell, will you answer my question ?07:40
Gazor are you looking for grammatical errors :) ?07:41
Gaz:)07:41
jimmybondoIs there a problem with the sun-java-6 package in the repository? I am getting a missing package error...07:41
hitmanWillyGaz: ro run it try cd'ing into the dir where you downloaded it and sh ./<name_of_bin_file>07:41
Gazthanks :)07:41
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hitmanWillyGaz: or you may not even need the sh part07:42
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Gazthank you :)07:42
hitmanWillyGaz: under nix executability is determined by a permission flag not a file extension07:42
vzduchhitmanWilly: indeed, if using './' at the beginning you don't need sh07:42
hitmanWillyvzduch: only if the permission is set at +x07:43
SelrachHow do I modify access rights to folders/files?07:43
hitmanWillyvzduch: otherwise you do :)07:43
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vzduchhitmanWilly: or you set chmod +x07:43
hitmanWillyvzduch: that works as well07:43
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hitmanWillyvzduch: but for a one-time run i find its usually easier just to use the sh07:44
Gazwell what does the job done i guess :)07:44
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Gazthanks guys/gals, very helpful :)07:45
vzduchhmm.. never knew that sh can run non-executable-flagged scripts07:45
hitmanWillynp07:45
hitmanWillyvzduch: use it all the time07:45
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GerritHi, when I re-activate after suspend-to-ram, ksysguard can no longer connect to information associated with eth0 and eth1. Where does it get this information / what's going on?07:47
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hitmanWillyGerrit: you may try sudo ifdown eth0;sudo ifup eth007:47
GerritRestarting ksysguard solves the problem. What causes the problem?07:47
vzduchbut.. anyone have an idea how to enable 3D acceleration for nvidia-glx-legacy? I found some hints on hacking xorg.conf.. only if I set option RenderAccel = "true", I can't work w/ my system for very long, at some point - usually on launching an application (Kate, Konqueror, you name it) everything freezes & I can only move the mouse pointer, not even switch to a console07:48
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GerrithitmanWilly: That would be another try, but I'm rather curious what causes the problem. Perhaps the network comes up too late for ksysguard? Can I have it to "reload" or so?07:48
Selrachquestion: How do I modify a directories' access rights?07:49
hitmanWillyGerrit: not really that familiar with suspend/resume stuff, but there should be a way to have it run cmds on restart07:49
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Gerrithmm07:50
hitmanWillyGerrit: /etc/init.d/networking restart should have the same effect IIRC07:50
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GerritI guess that's what lid.sh does07:51
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Gerrit(I'm really re-opening the lid)07:51
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steffenHow to get a valid ident here on irc?07:58
hitmanWillysteffen: /msg NickServ register07:59
steffeni mean the ~ ...07:59
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steffenon ex. efnet..08:00
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Gazhey again :)08:01
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Gazjust ran the command sh ./nameoffile.run and displayed this message: gary@gary-laptop:~/Desktop$ sh ./tremulous-1.1.0.installer.x86.run08:02
Gazsh: Can't open ./tremulous-1.1.0.installer.x86.run08:02
vzduchwth is tremulous?08:02
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Gaza fps08:03
Gaz*an fps08:03
juan278is it possible to install aplications on a nokia from linux?08:03
hitmanWillyGaz: ok, chmod a+x tremulous-1.1.0.installer.x86.run08:03
hitmanWillyGaz: then ./tremulous-1.1.0.installer.x86.run08:03
Gazk08:03
TeraDyne!checkinstall > TeraDyne08:03
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Gazjust so i know, what does chmod a+x stand for?08:04
hitmanWillyGaz: allow all users to execute that program08:04
vzduchchange mode of file for all users and groups to executable08:04
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Gazi see08:04
SanneGaz: for details you can read "man chmod"08:04
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Gazk08:04
hitmanWillychmod is change permissions, a+x is set the +x flag for all users08:05
Gaza = set ?08:05
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Gazi must read this article :)08:06
SanneGaz: you can also view and set those permissions via right click -> properties in konqueror08:06
hitmanWillya == all users08:06
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Gazi see :)08:06
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dthacker-lthi, what's the name of the whiteboard software that Ubuntu uses at the developer meetings?08:06
Gazokay08:06
Gazthanks :)08:06
SchuenemannI need help configuring my Geforce video card in feisty! I already read the wiki and wasn't able to do it.08:06
hitmanWillyGaz: is it working?08:07
Gazgary@gary-laptop:~/Desktop$ chmod a+x tremulous-1.1.0.installer.x86.run08:07
Gazchmod: cannot access `tremulous-1.1.0.installer.x86.run': No such file or directory08:07
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hitmanWillyGaz: ls | grep tremulous08:07
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hitmanWillyGaz: make sure you're in the right dir08:07
Gazokay08:08
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Gazand now the chmod a+x command again ?08:08
hitmanWillyGaz: chmod a+x ./tremulous-1.1.0.installer.x86.run08:09
Gaz:)08:09
hitmanWillytry it with the ./ this time08:09
SchuenemannI need help configuring my Geforce video card in feisty! I already read the wiki and wasn't able to do it.08:09
SanneGaz: you don't have to type the name out, you can tab complete by typing trem<tab>08:09
Gazokay08:10
Gaz:D08:10
SanneGaz: or even ./trem<tab>08:10
Gazthanks people :)08:10
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vzduchasparagus.. *yummy*08:10
Russianhello everyone08:10
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Gazit's working :)08:11
Sanneyou're welcome, Gaz :)08:11
Gazno, you're welcome :)08:11
daStickhi everyobe08:11
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RussianI have a question, I am currently working with Windows XP, and I would like to step over to Kubuntu, or Ubuntu, which one is best for me? I have no experience with Linux at all. =)08:11
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hitmanWillyvzduch: asparagus = yummy {return false}08:11
hitmanWilly:P08:11
RussianHitmanWilly want to help a noob out? ^^08:12
Schuenemannhaven't anyone setted up a nvidia video card?08:12
GazRussain as we are in a kubuntu room i'd recommend kubuntu08:12
hitmanWillyRussian: i would say Kubuntu, it seems more windows like to me08:12
vzduchhitmanWilly: you don't know what's good :P08:12
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RussianAah k then thanks08:13
hitmanWillyvzduch: and yes im fully aware my syntax is all screwed up :P08:13
RussianAny good place where I should start? some guide or anything to use kubuntu?08:13
SanneRussian: Kubuntu with KDE as desktop has a bit more config options, which may overwhelm new users, but gives a bit more to tinker, if you like that. Ubuntu with GNOME has a nice clean desktop with sensible defaults, but not os easy to reach advanced configuration. But you can install any of *buntu, and without reinstall, add the other desktop and switch at login.08:13
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TeraDyneRussian: Burn both the Ubuntu and Kubuntu LiveCDs and try them both. Use the one you like more08:14
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RussianThans for the tips guys, i really appreciate :)08:14
RussianSanne, Interesting what you said about using both the *buntu? How is that?08:15
SanneRussian: both use the same underlying system, they just have different desktop environments. You can have both and choose which to use when you login your pc.08:15
hitmanWillyRussian: also, if you like an app for one desktop, it'll also run in the other, so don't let that sway you one way or the other :)08:15
ScuniziI've got 5 email address in kmail, 2 of them produce an error "unable to complete list operation" & "preparing transmission from "account". Same settings and accounts in Evo and no problem.  Any suggestions?08:16
RussianNice :D08:16
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SanneRussian: I'm searching some links for you for docs08:16
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RussianThank you, I was just about to ask if there were some guide for beginners, to have 2 *buntu environments :)08:16
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SanneRussian: I would start with those two: https://help.ubuntu.com/ and http://kubuntu.org/documentation.php08:17
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SchuenemannRussian, just install it08:17
SchuenemannI mean download the iso and use the livecd08:18
SanneRussian: there's no special guide for two desktops, you just install the other one also and use that. When you want to do that, just come back here and ask. But best is, as was said, try both via the live cds.08:18
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RussianOke, thank you very much, Sanne and Schuenemann08:19
SanneRussian: you're welcome :)08:19
Tm_TRussian: what tiy mean by two environments?08:19
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Tm_TRussian: if you like to have KDE and GNOME they can be in same system08:20
SanneTm_T: That's what I said :)08:20
Tm_TSanne: ok, then I have to find my glasses08:20
Russian=D08:20
Russianis this the live cd ? ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso08:21
vzduchyep08:21
SanneRussian: that's the one with Gnome08:21
RussianI tought Ubuntu had KDE08:21
SanneRussian: that would be kubuntu-7.04...08:22
SanneRussian: Ubuntu's default desktop is Gnome08:22
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vzduchthat's what the K in Kubuntu is for :)08:22
Russianaaah08:22
Russiantnx :D08:22
frojnd!dial-up08:22
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto08:22
SanneRussian: for Kubuntu, go here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php08:22
Russianty08:23
vzduchsame goes for the 3rd variant w/ a different desktop environment --> Xubuntu, coming w/ Xfce08:23
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Hueyis is possible to turn a linksys router into a switch? (i.e. things on either side of the switch are on the same subnet, with no NAT necessary)08:26
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ScuniziHuey, is the router the second one in the lan or are you attempting Wan to Lan stuff.?08:27
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undertakingyou/leave found a less boring alternative08:34
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vzducho008:36
HueyScunizi: it's the second one in the lan, behind another that is doing all the NAT for connecting to the outside world08:37
Hueyi want computers plugged into the second router to request ip addresses from the dhcp server on the first (the one connected to the internet)08:38
Hueyhowever, simply disabling NAT on the second did not work08:38
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ScuniziHuey, depending on the router you should be able to turn nat off.  If it's the linux based router you might need to in stall 3rd party software in rom.08:38
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ScuniziHuey, Sometimes there's an option under General for tagging the router as a "Gateway" or switch (not sure what the name is they use for switch)08:39
ScuniziHuey, Gateway is not what you want.08:40
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ScuniziHuey, actually under Setup/Advanced Routing.. you want the "router" option.08:41
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HueyScunizi: do you know what tab the option would be under? i remember seeing such a setting before, but can't find it on the admin website for the linksys befw11s408:42
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ScuniziHuey, Setup/Advanced Routing08:42
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ScuniziHuey, check out this link for your router.  http://linksys.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/linksys.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=3733&lid=7756378881B0108:45
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HueyScunizi: ah, thanks08:49
frojndI have PCIsoft v92 modem (DIAL-UP) how can I know if this modem is supported by packages of ubuntu and if I need to download some other packages before and than later install in on dial-up maschine?? can someone help me on this one ?08:50
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Yorokobifrojnd, modem support (hardware support in general) is up to the kernel. If the modem shows up in dmesg then it is supported.08:51
YorokobiNote: there's a difference between supported and works/activated.08:52
frojndYorokobi: so if it doesn't show up I can't do anything?08:52
Yorokobifrojnd, buy a hardware modem and not a software (WinModem) modem.08:53
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frojndWhat do u mean hardware modem, I bought dial-up modem and insterted it in a computer does that makes it Hardware08:54
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Yorokobifrojnd, the resources are controlled by the OS (software modem) rather than the modem itself and the BIOS.08:54
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frojndso I don't have much goals08:55
taime1how do i release and renew ip when plugged directly into a cable modem?08:55
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georgiwats up08:56
Yorokobitaime1, 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'08:56
zorglu_q. i installed feisty 3days ago, before i add edgy, now i got firefox crashing quite a lot when playing flash video, is this a known issue ?08:56
taime1okay... is there a way to do that through the gui?08:56
Yorokobifrojnd, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/96684-dial-up-modem-configuration-fc6.html08:57
zorglu_taime1: the external ip ? or the internal ip ?08:57
Yorokobifrojnd, it is for Fedora/RH but should give you a guide ^^^08:57
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zorglu_taime1: aka the one seen from the internet, or the one seen from your computer ?08:57
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frojndYorokobi: ok,08:57
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taime1internet ip08:58
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zorglu_!tab | taime108:58
ubotutaime1: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.08:58
TrueFXhi guys08:58
Yorokobitaime1, power cycle the modem08:58
lynskynYa des franais ici?08:58
TrueFXhow can i initiate konsole just pressing F4 ?08:58
TrueFXany time08:58
sweettoothmike_, no luck, heh, i was trying to listen to bbc radio 4, and still wouldn't work08:58
TrueFXoui parle08:58
TrueFX:)08:58
lynskyncool08:59
lynskyn:D08:59
zorglu_taime1 ok the easiest way is to unplug your modem and hope to get a new ip once you replugged it08:59
TrueFXje ne suis pas de france mais on parle en franais aussi08:59
TrueFX:P08:59
lynskynah c'est cool a08:59
TrueFX:P08:59
Yorokobi!fr | lynskyn08:59
ubotulynskyn: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:59
TrueFXtoi08:59
zorglu_!fr| lynskyn08:59
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TrueFXtu viens d'ou?08:59
lynskynStrasbourg08:59
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zorglu_TrueFX: lynskyn:this is a english channel08:59
toma I'm behind a breezy system right now. how can i get to something more recent?08:59
TrueFXthis is an english channel08:59
lynskynOk09:00
TrueFXwe r speaking franglais09:00
lynskynI'm from strasbourg09:00
zorglu_toma: you upgrade from scratch09:00
jhutchinstoma: Burn your /home directory to a CD and do a clean install09:00
zorglu_!upgrade | toma09:00
ubotutoma: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)09:00
TrueFXla plupart des mots en englais vient d'origin franais et espagnol09:00
TrueFX:)09:00
lynskynAnd I've just finish installing kubuntu09:00
dthacker-lttoma: but it's worth it.....09:00
tomahehe, i know09:00
tomai just want advice how  to go from breezy to feisty09:00
zorglu_TrueFX: please think about all the people who dont speak french, and go speak french on french channel or private message09:01
tomachange the sources.list  in one go or go through edgy for example09:01
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zorglu_toma: the url would tell you that09:01
enrygoodbye!09:01
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dthacker-ltdoes anyone have a link to the pdf version of the Ubuntu book?  I have not been able to locate it on the documentation site.09:01
zorglu_toma: skipping a release is considered 'dangerous'09:01
zorglu_toma: aka it is untested09:01
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zorglu_toma: if you can, you would take a lot less risk by reinstalling from scratch09:02
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vzduchtoma: I've been told on #ubuntu that an apt-get dist-upgrade by changing the sources.list is not recommended.. obviously there is something like an update-manager that handles this job more smoothly09:02
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zorglu_"ubuntu guide pdf" in google and click on first link <- dthacker-lt09:02
vzduchI can't tell, I started off w/ Feisty09:02
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dthacker-ltzorglu: tnx09:03
tomavzduch: i'm experienced, i dont mind a rough ride09:03
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frojndwhat's the difference between: dmesg and lspci ?09:03
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zorglu_frojnd: well 2 different things all together :)09:03
zorglu_frojnd: once dump the 'content' of the pci bus, the other dumps all the messages from the kernel09:04
vzduchI'd say, in either case you'd have to back up important stuff.. so if you feel up to it, try a dist-upgrade :D09:04
Yorokobifrojnd, dmesg is the kernel's output during boot. lspci looks at the PCI table and spits out the results in a fairly readable way09:04
rixxonglxinfo says direct rendering: no, but beryl works - although it lags alot. any reason for this?09:04
jhutchinstoma: The system structure has changed a lot, which is why a clean install is going to be better.09:04
frojndTnx bouth of u09:04
dthacker-ltzorglu: sorry, dead link09:04
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zorglu_rixxon: because the rendering is indirect, aka done by software, so it is slow09:04
jhutchinstoma: Dapper to edgy and edgy to feisty upgrades are a big improvement, but breezy is pretty far back, and the upgrade path from breezy to dapper is not so good.09:04
vzduchmy last dist-upgrade was between Kanotix releases in 200409:05
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rixxonzorglu_: but radeon should be supported right?09:05
jarnIs there a way to provide input to a program in a script? For example, checkinstall?09:06
zorglu_dthacker-lt: google more then :)09:06
zorglu_!tab | dthacker-lt09:06
ubotudthacker-lt: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.09:06
zorglu_rixxon: yep i got one :)09:06
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zorglu_rixxon: but you need to install it. ask on #ubuntu-effects for help, they are the one handling beryl and stuff09:07
dthacker-ltzorglu_: I guess you could say my typo was underscored.... :) off to google....09:07
zorglu_i answer a lot of question and nobody answer mine, oin oin09:08
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zorglu_q. i installed feisty 3days ago, before i add edgy, now i got firefox crashing quite a lot when playing flash video, is this a known issue ?09:08
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jhutchinszorglu_: How does konq do on the same sites?09:09
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Sannezorglu_: I don't know, but you could search for issues at launchpad here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/09:10
Yorokobizorglu_, does about:plugins list the latest version of the flash player? If not (or even if it does) download it from Adobe and re-install it.09:10
Yorokobior try the gnash plugin for mozilla09:10
zorglu_jhutchins: i would have to test more, but konqueror got trouble on its own, aka it plays only the sound of the video, while the video image stays black09:10
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vzduchI heard someone say this morning that this might be a packaging issue b/c Firefox installed directly from the installer is said to be more stable09:10
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Sannezorglu_: I have firefox manually installed from mozilla.org and the latest flash player, if you want, I can test one of your links where firefox crashes.09:11
zorglu_Sanne: unfortunatly it is internal only, but do you experience frequent crash when playing video ? and how often do you look at video ?09:12
Sannezorglu_: to be honest, I have flash deactivated most of the time and only look at flash video about once every few days.. I didn't have a crash so far, though.09:13
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zorglu_Sanne: ok thanks09:13
Arwenvzduch, ah, I believe official Mozilla Firefox is slightly faster, but I have doubts about more stable09:14
rixxonzorglu_: alright, thanks09:14
vzduchatm I try not to use Firefox, don't have it installed right now09:14
vzduchquick test w/ Konq on video.google.com showed normal behaviour playing videos w/ kmplayer-plugin09:15
zorglu_Sanne: thinking about it, this may be my own page... triggering this bug09:15
Sannezorglu_: you could try with a clean profile... sometimes firefox gets in it's way when you used a profile for long (at least mine does... I have to clean up from time to time)09:15
Sannezorglu_: ah :)09:15
zorglu_Sanne: a fairly normal one tho. but if the bug is not known it is most likely on my side :)09:15
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Sannezorglu_: did you validate the page? Not that it should crash if it doesn't validate, but just in case...09:16
zorglu_Arwen: it does09:16
Arwenthen how can you play it with kmplayer?09:17
Sannezorglu_: in case you want to validate: http://validator.w3.org/09:17
zorglu_Sanne: no it is not a trouble of html :) this is clearly a bug, it is when i load/reload flash object09:17
Sanneah09:17
zorglu_Sanne: sometime after a few download it crash09:17
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zorglu_Sanne: download = load/reload flash object09:17
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zorglu_Sanne:  i will test on normal site like youtube, maybe it is me09:18
vzduchk, looks like I mixed something up.. my apologies :)09:18
zorglu_Sanne: thank09:18
zorglu_s09:18
Sannezorglu_: then I would try with a clean profile. You can start firefox with "firefox --ProfileManager" to make a new profile.09:18
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frojndYorokobi: after I install dirver, I just go to system settings -> and network connections ?09:19
Sannezorglu_: ok, you're welcome, good luck :)09:19
frojndor where do I put username and password and ISP09:19
zorglu_Sanne: ok trying the profile stuff09:19
Sannezorglu_: make that "firefox -ProfileManager" (sorry)09:19
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MaTiAzWhat's the Linux equivalent of Windows' chkdsk /f?09:21
SlimeyPetefsck is the chkdsk equivalent. Not sure what /f does.09:21
zorglu_Sanne: it crash with the new profile too09:21
zorglu_$ firefox --ProfileManager09:22
zorglu_Segmentation fault (core dumped)09:22
zorglu_:)09:22
MaTiAzSlimeyPete: Thanks, /f fixes the possible errors the program finds09:22
zorglu_Sanne: in between i did a new profile and played with my stuff a bit:)09:22
vzduchfsck -C /dev/$deviceName09:22
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vzduchafaik there is an autofix option somewhere.. try man fsck for details09:22
zorglu_!fsck09:23
ubotufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot09:23
Sannezorglu_: doesn't sound good. At least it's not your profile. maybe it's the flash plugin in connection with your page. You don't have the option to upload your flash file somewhere? I would test.09:23
zorglu_Sanne: let me think how i can do that :)09:24
Sannezorglu_: ok :)09:25
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zorglu_!info flashplugin-nonfree09:25
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)09:26
zorglu_lazy bot :)09:26
Evolution2lol09:26
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Admiral_Chicago!gpg09:27
ubotugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts09:27
SchuenemannI need help configuring my Geforce nvidia video card in feisty! I already read the wiki and wasn't able to do it.09:27
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Schuenemannis it that impossible? no one ever replies to that :-/09:30
yuriySchuenemann: what was the problem?09:30
SchuenemannI can't set my graphic card, that is the problem09:30
SchuenemannI tried what the wiki said and got a black screen, had to restart and replace the xorg.conf09:31
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yuriyi mean you said you tried following the directions on the wiki, what was the problem you ran into?09:31
Schuenemannin safe mode09:31
yuriyoh09:31
yuriywhat vid card do you have?09:31
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Schuenemannnvidia geforce 256 32 M09:32
zenixcan someone take me step-by-step to install Qt4 only, not anything KDE4 relates?09:32
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zenix*related09:32
Schuenemannit was ok in edgy, but the wiki has no specific instructions for feisty (only for ubuntu)09:32
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yuriy iirc that needs the legacy drivers, did you install nvidia-glx-legacy?09:32
nosrednaekimzenix: yep, search through adept for anything qt4 related and install it09:32
Schuenemannyes09:33
SchuenemannI installed it09:33
zenixnosrednaekim: that returns the -kdecopy versions of the qt4 libraries09:33
zenixwhich i don't need to install09:33
nosrednaekimonly those?09:33
zenixwell, and some pyqt4 packages ;)09:33
omega__how can i set my nfs server09:33
omega__?09:33
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zenixbtw, i'm using KPackage. Is this the possible problem?09:34
yuriythen you did nvidia-glx-config enable?09:34
Schuenemannwait09:34
Schuenemann!nvidia09:34
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:34
nosrednaekimzenix: yeah, use adept09:34
zenixbut apitiude doesn't return qt4-dev09:34
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Schuenemannlet me open the wiki09:34
zenixwill try09:34
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dc2448Guys - I can't boot looks like my disk is fried  - booting off a live cd has let me see the following - anyone got any bright ideas? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27661/09:35
nosrednaekimzenix: its called libqt4-dev09:35
Schuenemannyuriy, earlier version = newer?09:35
zenixnosrednaekim: that isn't listed when i do a search09:35
zenixloading Adept now09:35
zorglu_Sanne: ok i went further and did a "mv .mozilla .mozilla_backup" to be sure, and it still crash :)09:36
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nosrednaekimzenix: you have all the repositories enabled09:36
yuriySchuenemann: i'm guessing that i just said what it says for edgy. that does still work on feisty09:36
zenixnosrednaekim: wow, real smart of me >.< qt4-dev is already installed :PP09:36
nosrednaekim!info libqt4-dev09:36
zenixsorry about that09:36
ubotulibqt4-dev: Qt 4 development files. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.3-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 4100 kB, installed size 20048 kB09:36
nosrednaekim;)09:36
Sannezorglu_: yeah, so it *really* isn't your profile :)09:36
yuriySchuenemann: kubuntu doesn't have the restricted manager yet that the feisty instructions on there refer to09:37
zorglu_Sanne: :)09:37
Schuenemannyuriy, sudo nvidia-xconfig this is for egdy09:37
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nosrednaekimdc2448: what does dmesg say?09:38
Sannezorglu_: you could try the firefox from mozilla.org. It's a bit handywork, but basically you just get the tarball, extract it to some folder for testing purposes and run it from there, shouldn't interfere with your system.09:38
Schuenemannyuriy, 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' had no output. Is that normal?09:38
zorglu_Sanne: ok trying :)09:38
Sannezorglu_: :)09:38
yuriySchuenemann: i think it usually says something like made backup copy in...09:38
Schuenemannhmm =/09:39
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Schuenemannyuriy, maybe I have to edit manually the xorg.conf has the wiki suggests (I remember I did that in edgy)09:39
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not_a_kis there a way to add a second external taskbar?09:40
zorglu_Sanne: the one provided by http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html is the 2.0.0.4 aka the same as feisty one. which version is yours ?09:40
yuriyyou could try that09:40
SchuenemannI'll log out, brb09:40
zorglu_!info firefox09:40
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.4+1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9012 kB, installed size 28592 kB09:40
not_a_klightweight?09:40
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Sannezorglu_: also 2.0.0.4. But I would still test it, the ubuntu one might have been patched.09:41
dc2448nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27662/09:41
zorglu_Sanne: ok in progress:)09:41
Sannezorglu_: :)09:42
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not_a_ki tried to just add a normal panel and add a task list to it. but the "expand as required" bit isn't working09:43
not_a_kit works beautifully on an external task bar09:43
zorglu_Sanne: oh little issue, the one direct from the directory doesnt have a flash player obviously09:43
Sannezorglu_: let me think09:43
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Sannezorglu_: you did backup your ~/.mozilla, yes?09:44
Schuenemannyuriy, nothing =(09:44
zorglu_firefox$ cp /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplayer.xpt /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so plugins/ <- Sanne here it what im trying09:45
nosrednaekimdc2448: ok it mounts hdb1..... what is hdb1, and what is hdb3?09:45
zorglu_Sanne: yep i did09:45
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dc2448hdb1 is /home /hdb3 is /09:45
zorglu_Sanne: ok now it got a flash player :) i got those 2 files from dpkg -L flashplugin-nonfree09:46
Evolution2whats the best media player for linux09:46
Sannezorglu_: I have my flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so at: ~/.mozilla/plugins, where it gets found by my hand installed firefox.09:46
nosrednaekimdc2448: looks like your / is corrupted or something, try doing mount without the "-t ext3"09:46
Sannezorglu_: ok :)09:46
Miltos01should I use easyubuntu or automatix in order to enrich my kubuntu v7.04?09:47
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Schuenemannyuriy, I editted xorg.conf, brb09:47
dc2448nosrednaekim: I have - it says please specify filesystem09:47
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Sannezorglu_: and does it crash?09:47
nosrednaekimdc2448: try -a09:48
zorglu_$ ./firefox09:48
zorglu_Segmentation fault (core dumped)09:48
zorglu_Sanne: yep09:48
Arwenhaha09:48
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zorglu_Sanne: and i got a weird crash handler that i got trouble kill :)09:49
dc2448nosrednaekim: - -a just means all09:49
Sannezorglu_: so it's not the ubuntu firefox. either it's firefox in general, or your flash file in connection with the player.09:49
Schuenemannyuriy, are you still there?09:49
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nosrednaekimdc2448: oh ;) thought it meant autodetect09:49
yuriysort of09:49
Schuenemannnow the nvidia logo appeared, but my resolution is 800x600 and I can't change it09:49
zorglu_Sanne: or the flash plugin itself09:49
Sannezorglu_: now you can only try other options, like, ask others to try the flash file, try other flash players, etc...09:49
webbserverhello?09:50
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Sannezorglu_: or that, yes :)09:50
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dc2448no - and reading through fstab isn't going to do much on a live cd is it?09:50
StErGi0sany app close to photoshop for kubuntu?09:50
Schuenemannand I still tons of errors if I type glxinfo09:50
webbserverguessing this is kununtu help channel?09:50
SlimeyPeteStErGi0s: gimp's the best09:50
TeraDynewebbserver: you'd be right09:50
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zorglu_Sanne: in fact, i noticed that youtube/googlevideo are reloading the whole page everytime they change movies... and i always wondered why. as it is ugly and inefficient... this bug may be the reason09:51
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StErGi0sSlimeyPete: thank ya09:51
yuriySchuenemann: something to try would be to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the nvidia driver there09:51
dthacker-ltStErGi0s: gimp or krita09:51
webbservercool cool, I've just installed Linux for first time - haveing a few intial problems09:51
yuriyi g2g though09:51
zorglu_Sanne: let me rephrase. *may* be the reason09:51
zorglu_Sanne: in anycase, thanks for your help :)09:51
Sannezorglu_: hmmm, but it shouldn't crash09:51
SchuenemannI tried that I think09:51
Sannezorglu_: you're welcome, good luck :)09:51
webbserverfirst one being - when loaded up, monitor displays screen fine, however my projector (BenQ W100) displays somewhat white noise instead of a display... works fine in MS DOS but goes stupid when in kubuntu09:51
juan278how can install grub to a 2nd hard drive (so it stays on both)?09:51
Schuenemannbut it messed my keyboard settings and didn't help the video problem09:51
webbserverany ideas09:52
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webbserverhaven't tried changing ANYTHING yet...09:52
vzduchmy Nvidia driver is running.. but glxinfo segfaults09:52
dc2448juan278: grub-install /dev/devicename09:52
Schuenemannnow I can't use kdesu anymore09:52
Schuenemannthis SUCKS09:52
ctkroekerbooting any linux live cd gets me an initramfs error. I already tried using diff RAM modules... any ideas?09:52
vzduchSchuenemann: did you perhaps use 'dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'?09:53
vzduchthat messed up my keyboard settings earlier too09:53
SchuenemannI don't remember well what was the command09:53
nosrednaekimwebbserver: what graphics card do you have?09:53
vzduchif you leave the option out, it asks you everything related to xorg.conf, including keyboard settings09:53
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Schuenemannwhich options09:53
vzduchSchuenemann: the -phigh switch09:54
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webbservernot a clue but i'll have a look nosred, ALl i know is it worked fine in XP... i THIHNK its ATI, but ill have a look and be more specific for you09:54
SchuenemannI'll try with that09:54
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vzduchSchuenemann: no, without09:54
Schuenemannoops09:54
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TeraDynewebbserver: try running "lspci" in a terminal window.09:54
webbserverjust type that in konsole?09:55
TeraDyneyes09:55
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webbserveraah09:55
Schuenemannvzduch, should I use that kernel framebuffer?09:56
webbserverATI technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] 09:56
webbserversaves me taking the card out lol09:56
vzduchSchuenemann: if you're not running on framebuffer right now, it's not necessary09:56
SchuenemannI don't know if I'm running that09:57
nosrednaekimheh... ok, I think that card should be supported just fine by the opensource drivers09:57
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vzduchnormally only necessary for laptops and some screens with 'unusual' resolutions09:57
Schuenemannok09:57
webbserverbtw teradyne how do i send message straight to u09:58
nosrednaekimwebbserver: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_Radeon_X30009:58
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Schuenemannvzduch, dammit, I don't know the answer to those questions, I think I'll mess everything09:59
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vzduchSchuenemann: what questions exactly?09:59
webbserverok what am i looking at09:59
Schuenemannmouse protocol09:59
Schuenemannfor example09:59
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Schuenemannimps2, explorerps210:00
vzduchthe one selected by default should do.. if not, you can always run it again :)10:00
nosrednaekimwebbserver: the link I sent was an explanation of how to get monitor switching working.10:00
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nosrednaekimwebbserver: you basically need to go get the proprietary ati driver.10:00
Schuenemannvzduch, ok, done10:01
webbserverwell im lost already.. lol10:01
Schuenemannif I don't get the GUI login, I have to replace the xorg.conf with the backup, right?10:01
webbserverbasically then i not got proper driver installed for card, and its resulting in a display which appears messed up10:01
vzduchthat would do for the time being, yes10:01
Schuenemannbrb10:01
webbserverCause its picking up something, when things change on screen, the monitor screen changes too, can vaguely see stuff behind the fuzz10:02
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nosrednaekimwebbserver: sent you  private message10:02
rixonIs there some problems with the ubuntu rubygems package? After installing rails I have no rails command...10:03
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Schuenemannvzduch, everything messed and the video is the same10:03
webbserverdamn i cant speak in private10:04
vzduchdefine 'messed'10:04
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Schuenemannwrong keyboard layout10:04
vzduchthen you didn't select the proper layout10:04
Schuenemannscreen not in the correct position and any glx command outputs errors10:04
nosrednaekimwebbserver: its ok. basically you need to install the fglrx driver10:05
nosrednaekim!find fglrx10:05
ubotuFound: fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx, xorg-driver-fglrx-dev, fglrx-kernel-source10:05
webbserverright, is that on the link you sent me10:05
vzduchas for glx commands, I don't get GLX running either.. but at least my driver works10:05
Schuenemannyeah, I didn't see a suitable option... anyway, the most important part was the video, which is still wrong =10:05
webbserveri put that where? (sorry for being extremely newb).. so used to XP10:05
nosrednaekimno, that was just a refernce saying you needed it10:05
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webbserverkonsole?10:05
Schuenemannvzduch, I can't run glxgears10:05
vzduchneither can I10:05
nosrednaekimwebbserver: run this command: "sudo apt-get xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control"10:06
nosrednaekimin the konsole10:06
Schuenemanncan you run blender10:06
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vzduchit is possible if I add 'Option "RenderAccel" "true"' to xorg.conf by hand, but then my system gets volatile and freezes at random points10:06
Schuenemannthat was a question (I don't know where the question mark is anymore)10:06
webbserverasks for password10:07
nosrednaekimwebbserver: give it yours10:07
vzduchin the "Device" section where "nvidia" is placed in, that is10:07
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vzduchI don't know blender, what is it?10:07
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Schuenemanngraphic application that uses glx10:07
vzduchdon't have it installed, I guess..10:07
jenny_hello10:08
SchuenemannI'll replace my xorg with the old one10:08
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vzduchbut, as I said, glxinfo segfaults w/ me10:08
Schuenemannsudo isn't asking for password anymore, why10:09
gnomefreakSchuenemann: dont use ot for 15 minutes10:09
gnomefreaks/ot/it10:09
webbserverIt came up with: E: Invalid Operation xorg-driver-fgirx10:09
nosrednaekimSchuenemann: it only asks once for every 115 minutes or so in the same konwole10:09
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nosrednaekim*1510:09
Schuenemannnosrednaekim, I have logged out10:09
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Arwenwebbserver, apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx10:09
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nosrednaekimwebbserver: heh sorry10:10
nosrednaekimyeah...10:10
nosrednaekimdo Arwen's10:10
Arwenalso, you can clear sudo's saved password with "sudo -k"10:10
Arwendunno about kdesu10:10
webbserverE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock -- open (13 Permission denied)10:10
Arwen......................10:11
Arwenyou have to be root10:11
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Arwen!terminal | webbserver10:11
webbserverE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dojg/). Are you root?10:11
ubotuwebbserver: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal10:11
Arwenkindly read that10:11
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nosrednaekimwebbserver: Arwen forgot to put sudo on that command the correct command is "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx"10:12
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ArwenI didn't forget, sudo isn't part of the command10:12
webbserverResource temporarily unavailable, is anotehr process using it?10:12
webbserverlmao.... this could be fustrating10:13
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gekkoodoes anybody know if there's a gui for graphviz?10:13
Arwenwebbserver, do you have adept open? only 1 process can use apt at a time10:13
Arwenotherwise b0rk4g3 would happen10:13
webbserveryeah10:13
nosrednaekim!adeptfix | webbserver10:13
ubotuwebbserver: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 10:13
webbserverguessing i close that then10:13
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Arwenyeah10:13
webbserveraha10:14
webbserversuccess and failure10:14
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webbserversaid10:14
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webbserverbuilding dependency tree; Reading state information... one; E: Coulnd't find package xorg-driver-fgirx10:15
nosrednaekimdid I type that wrong again?10:15
nosrednaekimits "fglrx"10:15
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Arwenwebbserver, fglrx...10:15
webbserveraah l10:15
nosrednaekimnot "fgirx"10:15
Arwen(don't ask me why they couldn't have just called it ati)10:16
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nosrednaekimyeah.. I know.10:16
webbserverafter yboacjubg 29.7MB of additional disc space will be used... guessing i Continue10:16
nosrednaekimyeah continue10:16
webbserverlooking good10:16
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webbserverdamn this is a strange way to install drivers lol10:16
nosrednaekimwebbserver: ok. do you understand what you are doing?10:17
webbserverdownloading the package files for the ATI drivers as a guess10:17
nosrednaekimwebbserver: the ati drivers are in the ubuntu repositories, you are downloading them and installing them from there. Believe me, far easier than DL from the ATI site10:17
webbserveri know adept is some sort of package manager that allows you to downloda applications etec10:17
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nosrednaekimwebbserver: yeah, and it uses apt-get as its backend10:18
webbserverok so if thats finished and gone back to webbserver:webb-server:-$10:18
webbserverim guessing its installed10:18
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nosrednaekimwebbserver: nope, its finished10:18
webbserverso whats next10:18
super_hello, i need adsl auto connect10:18
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webbserveror do i go into adept now to install the downloaded package10:19
nosrednaekimwebbserver: nope, its already installed, just a second while I find the command to run to snable the ATI dribver10:19
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webbserverok10:19
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webbserverany sort of restart required when I enable the driver?10:19
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nosrednaekimwebbserver: you have to restart the X server10:19
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nosrednaekimrun this command "aticonfig --initial"10:20
webbserveragggg10:20
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nosrednaekimsorry "sudo aticonfig --initial"10:21
fiorehello10:21
nosrednaekimif it says not enough permission to anything, always put sudo before the command. sudo means run with admin rights10:21
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webbserverUnitialised file found, configuring. ;; Using /etc/xll/xorg.conf ;; Saved back-up to /etc/xll/xorg.conf.original-0 ;; aticonig: rwiting to /etc/xll/xorg.conf failed. Bad file descriptor10:21
webbserveroooh ill try putting sudo10:22
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webbserversays10:22
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nosrednaekimwebbserver: unfortuantely, I have to go. Someone else will help you.10:23
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webbserverwriting to 'etc/xll/xorg.conf failed. No such file or directory. No ATI fglrx device was found in the file /etc/xll/xorg.conf'. ;;;     Please run 'aticonfig --intial or change the driver part of your configuration file to fglrx and run aticonfig again10:23
webbserverdamn ok then10:23
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nosrednaekimsorry10:24
nosrednaekim!ati10:24
webbserverno worries, anyway i can add you to a buddy list?10:24
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:24
nosrednaekimmight help you10:24
nosrednaekimsure10:24
webbserver!ati ?10:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ati ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:24
ardchoillewebbserver: There is no /etc/x11/xorg.conf, there is however a /etc/X11/xorg.conf  Note the "X" as opposed to the "x")10:24
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nosrednaekimhmm thats odd...why does atconfig do that?10:24
webbserverit says on Xll one10:24
ardchoillewebbserver: That's not what you just posted10:25
ardchoillex11 != X1110:25
webbserverI forgot the caps.. didn't realise it would be case sensitive10:25
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webbserverardchoille you been following what he said?10:25
Schuenemannhi, the 'sudo' command is not asking for password anymore10:26
ardchoilleNo, just noticed why it said No such file or dir10:26
Schuenemannwhat could that be?10:26
ardchoilleSchuenemann: It caches the pass for 15 minutes10:26
Schuenemannardchoille, I just logged in10:26
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UbuntuServerUserwhen running quotacheck -avugm I get this eerror:  Quota for users is enabled on mountpoint /srv so quotacheck might damage the file. Help?10:26
webbserverit said "Writing to 'etc/Xll/xorg.conf' failed no usch file / directory10:26
ardchoillewebbserver: And I'm guessing your x doesn't work10:27
klawhello everyone.. I'm new in the linux community.. I can chat here but I can't surf with Konqueror!??10:27
webbserverdont know.. i was just following his instructions loll10:27
klawAn error occurred while loading http://www.google.com:10:27
klawCould not connect to host http://www.google.com/10:27
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klawcould someone help me plz?10:27
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UbuntuServerUserklaw, why not use firefox?10:27
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ardchoillewebbserver: open a term and type:  file /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:28
UbuntuServerUserklaw, its better supported10:28
klawi would like to but i need to download it first..10:28
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UbuntuServerUserklaw, apt-get firefox10:28
webbserverERROR: cannot open '/etc/Xll/xorg.conf' (No such file or directory)10:29
klawapt -get firefow?10:29
ardchoillewebbserver: Your xorg.conf file is gone10:29
gurumeditationerIs anyone having problem play ogg files in xine?10:29
klawcould u xplain?10:29
klawI'm new here... ffff10:29
Arwengurumeditationer, explain. Also, what kind of OGG? Vorbis? Theora? Speex? FLAC? MPEG-4?10:29
webbserverguesisng thats bda? llo10:29
webbserverbad even10:29
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ardchoillewebbserver: It is if you plan to use kde, lol10:30
gurumeditationer.ogg files as in vorbis10:30
UbuntuServerUserklaw, your using kubuntu? Open add or remove programs10:30
gurumeditationerlibxine says:10:30
webbserverKDE's kubuntu right.. lol10:30
klawkubuntu yeah..10:30
ardchoillewebbserver: You can write a new xorg.conf with:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:30
klawI have to type this 'apt -get firefox' in konsole?10:31
Schuenemannhi, the 'sudo' command is not asking for password anymore. What can I do?10:31
UbuntuServerUseryes or that10:31
gurumeditationer"there is no demuxer plugin avaiable to handle 'music_file_name.ogg'10:31
ardchoilleklaw: sudo apt-get install firefox   <-- that will install the firefox browser10:31
Arwenklaw, no space between apt and "-get"10:31
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Arwengurumeditationer, huh, so it doesn't recognize the ogg *container*, that's a new one10:31
TeraDynewebbserver: did you type Xll or X11?10:31
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webbserverasks me to select a X server driver10:31
gurumeditationerHow can that happen? Vorbis, is totally free, is it not?10:31
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webbserverXll..10:31
klawokay mates, thanks,; I'll try it now10:31
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webbserverletter L in lowercase10:31
TeraDynewebbserver: It's X1110:32
ardchoillewebbserver: it's X11  X one one10:32
webbserveromg.. 110:32
TeraDyneXD10:32
SchuenemannArwen, I think you said a command to clear the cache, can you repeat it?10:32
gurumeditationerTotally crazy problem, isn't it? I've found no solution in the last week, it's embarassing.10:32
webbserverok ermm how i quit this package configuration thing? lmao10:32
ArwenSchuenemann, when?10:32
Arwenand what cache?10:32
ardchoillewebbserver: ctrl+c10:32
SchuenemannArwen, sudo password cache heh10:32
webbserverdoesnt wanna know10:32
Schuenemanna few minutes ago10:32
webbserverill reopen a konsole10:32
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webbserverok10:33
Arwenoh, sudo -k10:33
ardchoilleTeraDyne: Good catch (ll 11)10:33
Schuenemannahh, thanks10:33
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webbserveraha now it finds it10:33
Schuenemannworks now10:33
webbserverASCII english text, with very long lines10:33
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KjetilK__I'm wondering about the status of the iwlwifi driver in gutsy10:33
KjetilK__If I do a file search for it it seems only the microcode is in10:34
KjetilK__http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=iwlwifi&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=gutsy&arch=i38610:34
webbserverok so when i type sudo aticonfig -- initial, how come it tries writing to /etc/Xll/xorg.conf?10:34
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KjetilK__in feisty, there are more results10:34
TeraDyneardchoille: I'm just glad I happend to take my eyes off my Wiki at just the right time10:34
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ardchoilleTeraDyne: Small world, I was working on my wiki too when I noticed his problem.10:35
KjetilK__uhm, I should have been in ubuntu+1...10:35
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Lunar_LampIs it possible to convert a server install to a desktop install? (feisty)10:36
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ardchoilleLunar_Lamp: You can install kubuntu-desktop to get the desktop components10:37
webbserveranyone got any ideas (or anyone good with ATI cards so i can tell em what iv done so far and resolve the rest?)10:37
Lunar_Lampardchoille, awesome, thanks.  i presume that includes X etc?10:37
ardchoilleLunar_Lamp: You may also need xserver-xorg-core  not sure if kubuntu-desktop will install it10:38
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ardchoilleLunar_Lamp: kubuntu-desktop is a meta package, it exists solely to pull in the desktop stuff. I forget if it also pulls in xorg or not.10:38
Lunar_Lampardchoille, just checked and the ubuntu one does, so i presume kubuntu does also10:39
vzduchquestion: how do I enable 3D acceleration after installing nvidia-glx-legacy? the driver works, I get the Nvidia logo on startup of X10:39
ardchoilleAh, ok10:39
Arwenvzduch, eh... you sure you have a legacy card? does glxinfo | grep direct say "no"?10:39
vzduchArwen: I'm dead sure I have a legacy card.. worked absolutely flawless on openSUSE10:40
vzduchArwen: btw, glxinfo segfaults on me10:40
Arwenhmm, just sounds like broken drivers :-)10:40
vzduchhmm, if they're broken, it's either Nvidia's fault or that of the packager10:41
UbuntuFeistyhi10:41
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UbuntuFeistywho is a bot?10:41
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ardchoille!bot10:41
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots10:41
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udi.10:42
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vzduchArwen: apart from that, you don't want to tell me earnestly that a GF2 works w/ the 'standard' nvidia-glx? ;)10:43
Arwenhehe, not a chance10:43
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venikhas anyone ever used Simple Backup?  Were you able to restore the backup?10:44
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UbuntuFeistyubotu: PT10:44
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.10:44
venikit says: restoring for HOURS, and there is no progress bar or anything to let me know if it is stuck or actually working10:44
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dv8n11how can one use a deb file to install a package10:49
venikcann anyone recommend some other, preferably functioning, backup program?10:49
Arwendpkg -i file10:49
venikI am running kubuntu 7.0410:50
dv8n11venik cpio works well10:50
dv8n11tanks arwin10:50
dv8n11Arwen:10:50
dv8n11soory10:50
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venikwell, that was not that productive...10:55
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webbserverhaving problems installing an ATI graphics driver, can someone help please?10:58
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TeraDyne!ati | webbserver10:59
ubotuwebbserver: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:59
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systestOk how do I make avahi go away?  It's not /etc/init.d, doesn't seem to be /etc/dbus/event.d11:00
webbserverlooking at that page terra, i am down to the sudo aticonfig --initial11:01
webbserverbut it  dont play ball11:01
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TeraDynewebbserver: How so? can you be a bit more specific?11:02
webbserverwell it says saved backup etc, but then it says writing to /etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. bad file descriptor11:02
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webbservermind u i never saw sudo depmod -a .. no-one told me to put that11:03
webbserverif i put that, would it work after?11:03
TeraDynewebbserver: unfourtunatly, I can;t help you there.11:04
webbserverno worries11:04
Jahmanhi11:04
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webbserveranyone know?11:05
webbserverhmm should probably try the 7.04 quick way first..?11:06
Spudchathello! I was wondering if anyone ever had a problem with the live cd/installer where it would keep saying "You can't have the end before the beginning" or something like that. I'm trying to install kubuntu on my new machine, but that keeps blocking the path :\11:06
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Spudchatthat happens when I'm trying to partition the drive btw11:06
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systest * grumble * /etc/default .  Isn't that special.11:07
ubuntu__vai toma no cu11:07
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ubuntu__fodase11:07
ubuntu__kk11:08
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webbserverargh im gona squeal11:09
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xstI try to burn a Cd with k3b but it claims that no blank CD is in the drive. It says "please insert blank Cd" in the window where I should normally just press "burn". Why?11:11
yourfriendspudchat >>is that a dual boot machine?11:11
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Spudchatnope, fresh install on a machine i just finished building11:12
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yourfriendspudchat >>did u try gparted live cd?11:12
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Spudchatno..i kinda figured that ubuntu would do it for me :o11:12
yourfriendspudchat >>or Knoppix?11:12
TeraDynexst: Stupid questions, do you have a blank CD in the drive and are you sure it's blank?11:12
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yourfriendspudchat >> well did you do a MD5 of the iso you downloaded to make sure its not corrupted11:13
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mo0osah!bin file11:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bin file - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:13
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Spudchatyup, it all came back fine...MD5 from site matched the download and k3b said it burned with no errors and the "Verify Written Data" option was on11:14
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TeraDyneSpudchat: are you trying to put a lower numbered partition after a higher numbered parition? I've had that message come up before, and I think that was the problem.11:14
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SpudchatNope, I'm just trying to create / and a swap partition. I can set LVM up later. I set swap at 2 GB and / at 10GB and the machine has plenty of space left.11:15
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UbuntuFeistyI eat active that tablet superior style Mac The?11:16
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jhutchinsSpudchat: You may need to use the alt CD and partition it manually.11:16
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jhutchinsSpudchat: You're somehow mis-setting the start and endpoints for the partitions.11:16
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yourfriendspud >> you can do it on the cli or use knoppix or somethin else11:17
psynthKubuntu doesn't load my sound card half the time at startup, how to "restart" sound drivers on the fly ?11:17
UbuntuFeistyI eat active that tablet superior style Mac The?11:17
chucktownDoes anyone know what are the best video codecs to download to get video going on my distro?11:18
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TeraDyneUbuntuFeisty: Do what? I can't make sense of what you said.11:19
jhutchinsUbuntuFeisty: English please?11:19
SpudchatI don't even have an option to set the start/end points for the partitions...the only options there are are Type, New Partition Size, Location, Use as, and Mount Point11:19
TeraDyne!codecs | chucktown11:19
ubotuchucktown: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:19
yourfriendspudchat >> did you try the Gparted live CD?11:20
jhutchinsinstall | Spudchat11:20
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TeraDyneinstall | Megaranger11:21
psynthKubuntu doesn't load my sound card half the time at startup, how to "restart" sound drivers on the fly ?11:21
jhutchins!install | Spudchat11:21
ubotuSpudchat: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate11:21
TeraDyneOnly Super Sentai fans would get my joke.11:21
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Arwenwtf is Super Sentai?11:22
yourfriendyeah11:22
TeraDyneArwen: It's what Power Rangers is based off of.11:22
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SpudchatAllright, thanks for the help, but none of those links helped at all. I think I'm just going to pop Etch on there.11:23
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jhutchins...and the installation partitioning tool costs another one.11:23
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TeraDyneArwen: Why? PR is kiddy, but Super Sentai isn't so much. Go onto youtube and look for "DekaRanger ep". Watch some of the episodes.11:24
jhutchinsActually, that's been one of the most difficult sections of the installer for a lot of distros.11:24
ArwenTeraDyne, f*** no, YouTube = CrapTube11:24
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Arwengimme a link to a real video if you want me to watch it11:24
jhutchinsYeah, cause I LOEV my video to be 2"x2".11:24
Arwenjhutchins, and compressed with a proprietary codec no less11:24
yourfriendjhutchins >> people just dont understand partitioning or formatting disks at all.11:24
Arweneven with 32kbit audio11:24
jhutchinsyourfriend: Yep.11:25
Arwenyourfriend, well, if they don't understand how to use a computer, they probably shouldn't eh?11:25
TeraDyneArwen: If I could, I would. Unfourtunately, I don't know of anywhere else to get it.11:25
jhutchinsyourfriend: At best, and the tools are either too inflexible or too unfriendly.11:25
yourfriendjhutchins >> maybe I will give em OpenBSD then they will run screaming!!!11:25
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yourfriendlol11:25
yourfriendcut em some slack11:25
UbuntuFeistyI don't speak English. I'm use Google translator11:25
ArwenTeraDyne, hmm, ah well. Out of curiosity, is it some of that Japanese cruft?11:25
yourfriendi dont speak google transulator >> lol11:26
ArwenUbuntuFeisty, we can tell11:26
jhutchinsUbuntuFeisty: Unfortunately, it's not working, you're saying nonsense.11:26
yourfriendjhutchins >> lol11:26
Arwenjhutchins, hehe11:26
Schuenemannwhat does he speak?11:26
yourfriendhe speaks nonsense11:26
yourfriendlike my boss11:26
Schuenemannwhich language is that?11:26
UbuntuFeistyI'm speak Brazilian Portuguese11:26
Arwenso, has anyone tried using Gusty? is it usable (not for production of course, and assuming you have balls)?11:27
yourfriendIm speaking binary11:27
Arwen!portugese11:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about portugese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:27
Arwen....11:27
Schuenemann!br | UbuntuFeisty11:27
ubotuUbuntuFeisty: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.11:27
TeraDyneArwen: most of the SS series is amazing. Some emotional episodes, some silly eps, and some dramatic eps. It's really good.11:27
ArwenTeraDyne, I simply asked if it was any of that Japanese cruft, lol11:27
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TeraDyneArwen: My favorites are DekaRanger and MagiRanger. And yes, it's Japanese. But it's still good.11:28
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Arwenlol, jap = fail11:28
Arwensilly cartoons11:28
Schuenemann<UbuntuFeisty> I eat active that tablet superior style Mac The?11:28
Schuenemann<TeraDyne> UbuntuFeisty: Do what? I can't make sense of what you said.11:28
jhutchinsI like the one with the airships.11:28
TeraDyneArwen: It's live action11:28
Schuenemannlol this part was funny11:28
ArwenTeraDyne, hmm? maybe I'll take a look then11:28
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yourfriendoff topic - lol jk11:29
Arwenjhutchins> I like the one with the airships. - ??11:29
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SchuenemannUbuntuFeisty, type this: /join #ubuntu-br11:30
jhutchinsArwen: Some anime thing that Cartoon Net did about four episodes of.  Unfortunately, four episodes isn't much of a storey arc.  It's like getting one issue of a comic book.11:30
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jhutchinsArwen: Of course, they haven't bothered to translate any more of it.11:30
Arwenjhutchins, you don't possibly mean Karate Kommandos do you?11:30
jhutchinsArwen: I doubt it. who knows?11:30
Arwenit's an anime made by Chuck Norris :-P11:30
Arwenthe definition of bad11:30
yourfriendArwen: lol11:31
yourfriend=P11:31
Arwenen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate_Kommandos <--- I've been trying to get a warezed copy of that for a while, lol11:31
yourfriendlmao11:31
Arwen:-)11:32
jhutchinsArwen: No, this was originally japanese (hence anime).11:32
Arwenanime is just a contraction for animation...11:32
Arwenbut, meh, who knows?11:32
yourfriendArwen >> You like homestarrunner.com?11:33
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Arwenyourfriend, lol, blast from the past eh? I haven't seen that name in a looong time11:33
yourfriendArwen >> Its still consistently updated and great11:33
Arwenick, flash11:33
yourfriendArwen >> I know but its great content.  Adobe sux!  I only use flash playa11:34
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yourfriendArwen >> they are warming to the FOSS world but still have no real clear understanding of the potential of working with this world11:35
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yourfriendArwen >> Adobe that is11:35
ArwenI just think flash is an abomination.... all I've seen it used for is obnoxious unkillable ads11:35
Arwenand don't get me started on flash for videos...11:36
yourfriendArwen >> Uhmmm.  Thats what firefox extentions are for =)11:36
Arwenyes, I have all javascript and all flash off :-\11:36
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jhutchinsI just use my DNS to block adservers.11:36
jhutchinsCovers most of it.11:37
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yourfriendjhuthins >> yeah. You ever look at how much crap traffic comes in general web surfing? Check it out in Etherape or Ntop sometime11:37
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coreymon77jhutchins: i dont need to do thaat11:38
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coreymon77jhutchins: firefox extension does it all for me11:38
yourfriendArwen >> just run Lynx the ultimate text browser with NO features11:38
yourfriendlol11:38
Arwenw3m > lynx, thank you11:38
Arwenand they're not features, they're bloat :-)11:39
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coreymon77jhutchins: adblock plus bundled with filterset g updater works like an absolute charm11:39
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Arwenthe native lists are good enough11:40
coreymon77and the best part about it is that it doesnt block the stuff that you want shown (like otehr ad blockers out there)11:40
coreymon77Arwen: i like using fsg11:40
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Arwenheh, I guess I don't do a lot of surfing then, banning the most obvious ones (e.g. doubleclick.com) seems to do it fer me11:41
jhutchinscoreymon77: I detest firefox and do not use it unless the page won't work in konq.11:41
Arwenjhutchins, what's wrong with Firefox? o.O11:41
coreymon77thats the thing, im too lazy to go around banning each one that i see, having filterset.g updater bundled with the abp extension does it all for me automatically11:41
coreymon77jhutchins: ???11:42
jhutchinsYou're still using your bandwidth to receive all the foo.  I never even get it.11:42
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coreymon77jhutchins: no im not, it actually blocks it11:42
jhutchinsIt still has bugs in it that I reported when it was mosaic.11:42
jhutchinscoreymon77: You're just filtering it and discarding it when it's downloaded.11:42
Arwenlol11:42
yourfriendlol11:43
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coreymon77jhutchins: w/e, its unnoticeable11:43
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yourfriendthen use telnet to port 80 everywhere and read the html11:43
Arwenjhutchins, actually, it works by preventing you from ever even loading the images and stuff11:43
yourfriendlol11:43
rixonThe RestrictedFormats wiki article confuses me. It appears to claim 7.04 already includes everything except libdvdcss2. Yet I am unable to play this avi movie.11:43
jhutchinsI use lynx frequently.11:43
Arwenit reads embedded objects and just bans them11:43
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Arwenjhutchins, not w3m?11:43
jhutchinsNope.11:43
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Comrade-Sergeiall my KDE apps seem to be very crash prone latly, sometimes they complain they cant find klauncher, what may be the problem?11:43
Arwenrixon, it doesn't... maybe I ought to revise the article11:43
coreymon77jhutchins: i dont do any bandwidth intensive stuff anyways besudes the odd torrent every now and then11:44
Arweneither way, it's "apt-get install mplayer" to fix your problems11:44
Dusk_there's a cross on the kmix icon next to the clock and no sound on kubuntu11:44
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jhutchinsDusk_: slash or red dot with a white x?11:44
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jhutchinsComrade-Sergei: We'd probably have to know what release you were running, and what version of KDE, and maybe what the last thing you did a big upgrade on was, as well as what it's actually doing as opposed to not doing.11:45
rixonArwen: I know mplayer, usually use it, now I want kaffeine though.11:46
Arwenrixon, libxine1-ffmpeg then11:46
jhutchinsrixon: Fine, but don't complain that it doesn't work.11:46
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Dusk_jhutchins: red dos with a white x11:46
semistud2354im trying to get my rio nitrus working....i downloaded the "rioutil" package of of adept...but i have no clue what to do from there...can anyone help????11:46
Dusk_dot*11:46
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jhutchinsDusk_: Your sound system is not working; probably you do not have the correct module for your sound chipset.11:47
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jhutchinsDusk_: Several chipsets are too new to be available in the kernel.11:47
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jhutchinsDusk_: sudo lspci should show you what chipset.11:47
Comrade-Sergeijhutchins, thats just it i run gnome, its just my KDE apps that do it11:47
jhutchins!audio | dusk11:47
ubotudusk: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:47
rixonjhutchins: hehe :)11:47
Comrade-Sergei3.5.6 i believe jhutchins.11:48
jhutchinsComrade-Sergei: kde apps crash in gnome?11:48
Dusk_jhutchins: there are 2 multimedia audio controllers there...is that a problem??11:48
jhutchinsDusk_: Yes.11:48
yourfriendgnome crashes in gnome11:48
Dusk_jhutchins: one of them is ac9711:48
Comrade-Sergeijhutchins, or run very slowly11:48
yourfriendlol11:48
Dusk_jhutchins: the other is Ensoniq11:48
Comrade-Sergeijhutchins, amaroks running decently now but it wasnt before...11:49
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jhutchinsComrade-Sergei: I know lots of people have had trouble with kde if they installed it on top of gnome.11:49
jhutchinsnot that that helps...11:49
Comrade-Sergeijhutchins, well its like that from basic install, i run ubuntu11:50
jhutchinsComrade-Sergei: understood.11:50
Comrade-Sergeijust the native kde apps like kopete and amaroK11:50
jhutchinsComrade-Sergei: Do they work correctly in kde?11:50
Comrade-Sergeihow should i know11:50
Comrade-Sergeii run ubuntu11:50
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Dusk_jhutchins: what should i do?11:51
Comrade-Sergeii guess they would if i had it11:51
coreymon77meh11:51
jhutchinsComrade-Sergei: Obviously, this is a question for #ubuntu, not #kubuntu, since what you're doing has nothing to do with #kubuntu.11:51
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coreymon77what i would do is install kde first, and then if i wanted gnome install that on top11:51
coreymon77havent heard of any problems doing that11:51
Comrade-Sergeithey refer me here and #kde11:51
jhutchinsDusk_: Easiest is disable one of them in the BIOS.11:51
jhutchinsDusk_: Other than that, read through those web pages and start troubleshooting.11:51
Dusk_i must have been disabled it11:51
Comrade-Sergeiand #KDE is pretty inactive11:52
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Dusk_but let me have a look again11:52
Dusk_thanks11:52
semistud2354im trying to get my rio nitrus working....i downloaded the "rioutil" package of of adept...but i have no clue what to do from there...can anyone help????11:52
jhutchinsComrade-Sergei: If you'd care to install kubuntu-desktop and try running them there, we might be able to help.  It's kindof like complaining that your Mac programs won't run on your PC though.11:53
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jhutchinsComrade-Sergei: There's a lot of compatibility - but it's not the first priority.11:53
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jhutchinsComrade-Sergei: Generally, kde apps are stable on systems installed as kubuntu.11:53
semistud2354any ideas??11:53
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coreymon77Comrade-Sergei: install kubuntu fresh, so that it is installed as a kubuntu system, then, if you want gnome, install that on top11:54
jhutchinssemistud2354:  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate_Kommandos11:55
jhutchinssemistud2354: Sorry, bad pastebuffer, hang on...11:55
dranaswhy install kubuntu if youre going to use gnome?11:55
jhutchinssemistud2354: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19927811:55
jhutchinsdranas: Because the packages you actually want to use are KDE packages?11:56
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super_hello11:56
dranasthen why install gnome?11:56
super_how i can install plugin11:56
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CaBlGuY!xine11:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:57
dranasdoes anyone here know anything about gxmame?11:58
super_!help11:58
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CaBlGuYwhats the latest version of Xine?11:58
dranasall knowing11:58
TeraDynesuper_: what exactly do you need help with?12:00
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Min464WOW! Free phone calls -  http://callfree.point-serv.com/en/12:00
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super_now it is ok, can you help me how to set webmin auto start12:00
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dranasi  got a question12:01
TeraDyneYou might have to ask in their chatroom. IIRC, Webmin isn't supported by the *buntus.12:01
dranaswhat container does xmame use for roms? like mame 32 uses zip12:01
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semistud2354that link you gave me hand one guy askin about the problem12:02
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semistud2354i just want amarok to see it12:02
semistud2354or i dunno...mount my rio nitrus12:02
crustynewbie trying to install a new splash screen but cant get acces...12:02
crustyany ideas ?12:02
semistud2354i know where it is i just dont know the commands to mont it12:02
BrightEyes`hello.just installed kubuntu 7.04 and i want to configure me pci tv card.how can i do that?12:03
coreymon77semistud2354: well, where is it?12:03
purpleposeidonhow can you tell which version of ubuntu you're using?12:04
semistud2354its "/dev/usb/003/003"12:04
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crustyin the control center it says "click on the administrator mode button to make changes" but there is no such button there12:05
semistud2354amarok has a thing where it says you have to put the device node, and then the mount point...12:05
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semistud2354which i am totally confused12:05
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Arwensemistud2354, are you sure it's /dev/usb/blah? it probably also has an entry like /dev/sdb,c,d,etc12:08
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semistud2354thats what i get when i type lsusb12:08
semistud2354but ill check there 212:09
semistud2354one sec12:09
Arwenhmm12:09
Dusk_jhutchins: still no sound12:09
Dusk_it can't find my sound card12:09
Arwen(sda is probably your hard drive)12:09
semistud2354i dont have sdb12:09
semistud2354i have dev12:09
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semistud2354but no sdb12:09
Arwenok, dunno then12:09
semistud2354folder12:10
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semistud2354Bus 003 Device 003: ID 045a:5220 SONICblue, Inc. Rio Nitrus MP3 Player12:10
semistud2354Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:000012:10
semistud2354Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:000012:10
semistud2354Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c00e Logitech, Inc. M-BJ69 Optical Wheel Mouse12:10
semistud2354Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000012:10
semistud2354thats what my lsusb says12:10
TeraDyne!pastebin | semistud235412:10
ubotusemistud2354: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:10
semistud2354huh12:10
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bernardfname "Bernard"12:12
TeraDyneFor large amounts of texts, like the output of lsusb, it's better to put it there and put the link to the pastebin page than to post it directly to the chatroom.12:12
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bernardfhi!12:12
semistud2354o12:12
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semistud2354i put it directly from my console output12:12
semistud2354thingie12:13
semistud2354do you guys see the stuff i pasted12:13
semistud2354??12:13
TeraDyneYes.12:13
Comrade-Sergeijhutchins, i wonder if i could reinstall klauncher think thad help?12:13
semistud2354well yea..i got the impression from online that i need rioutil12:14
BrightEyes`hello.just installed kubuntu 7.04 and i want to configure me pci tv card.how can i do that?12:14
semistud2354and how do i get rio util to work12:14

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