[12:16] <jhutchins> smbpasswd does both.
[12:16] <jhutchins> It's a switch, check the man page.
[12:16] <aaroncampbell> yeah, I have that.  smbpasswd is a file as well as a utility
[12:16] <kubuntian> ok, i just read that a smb user MUST have a corresponding UNIX user
[12:17] <jhutchins> It's also possible to tell samba to create accounts on the fly - I don't remember the details of that, I didn't like how it worked for me.
[12:17] <Schuenemann> is it possible to edit konqueror's preview for specific file types?
[12:17] <jhutchins> My home network has an NT Domain Controller where all the accounts reside.
[12:17] <jhutchins> That's probably what allows creation on the fly.
[12:18] <aaroncampbell> Even with wins support = yes ...I restart samba, it seems to work, but I can only access the share from a windows box using the IP
[12:19] <aaroncampbell> \\192.168.2.1 works ... \\aaron does not
[12:19] <aaroncampbell> hostname of the system is aaron
[12:19] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Tell the windows box that the samba box is the domain controller and wins server.  Make sure the samba box wins the browser war.
[12:20] <jhutchins> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO.html
[12:21] <jhutchins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[12:21] <aaroncampbell> EUREKA!  That was it!
[12:22] <aaroncampbell> I disobeyed the classic "don't assume" rule
[12:22] <brendan_> hi, why does ubuntu use dash instead of bash?
[12:22] <aaroncampbell> Since nothing had been touched on the windows systems, I assumed they were still set up fine.  Not true
[12:22] <jhutchins> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server
[12:22] <aaroncampbell> When I had netowrk problems on the linux system, the WINS server was no longer valid, so Windows decided to remove it from the list
[12:23] <aaroncampbell> I added it back, and it works fine
[12:23] <aaroncampbell> Thanks jhutchins
[12:23] <roho> flash worked fine, i haven't changed anything, it's still installed, but for some reason youtube doesn't think i have it.
[12:23] <roho> i tried changing the browser identity but that didn't do any good
[12:24] <jhutchins> It's a heck of struggle getting through all the docs for samba.  I don't remember what it takes to get swat working - it's been disabled in favor of the ubuntu controls - but it's an easier way to configure stuff.
[12:24] <kubuntian> aaroncampbell: what?
[12:24] <kubuntian> what did you do?
[12:24] <ReK_> can anyone help with setting up my soundcard? for some reason, it worked fine in 6.10, but kmix cant detect the mixer in 7.04
[12:24] <aaroncampbell> I added the IP address of the linux box to the top of the list of WINS servers on the windows box
[12:27] <roho> so why would flash in konqueror work yesterday but not work today? i haven't changed anything.
[12:27] <roho> it works in firefox
[12:27] <jhutchins> roho: Re-scan for plugins.
[12:28] <roho> i just did that
[12:28] <roho> do i need to close the browser and restart after that?
[12:28] <kubuntian> aaroncampbell: :|
[12:28] <jhutchins> Shouldn't, but it's worth a try.
[12:28] <kubuntian> what?
[12:28] <roho> well, it didn't do any good
[12:29] <roho> and flash is listed in the plugins list, too
[12:29] <beldayven> Hi
[12:30] <beldayven> Anyone on here ever tried using MoinMoin-Desktop edition on kubuntu?
[12:30] <aaroncampbell> kubuntian: I don't know that you are having the same problem as me.  From one of your windows computers, click start, run, \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the IP of the linux box with the samba share.  If it works, let me know, and I know the solution to make \\hostname work as well
[12:30] <roho> jhutchins: anything else i might be missing?
[12:31] <Schuenemann> is it possible to edit konqueror's preview for specific file types?
[12:31] <kubuntian> \\10.0.0.10 does not work
[12:33] <roho> there's gotta be something i can do
[12:33] <roho> i haven't changed konqueror at all
[12:34] <aaroncampbell> kubuntian: then you still need to get samba set up.  I did that months ago, and just recently had a WINS problem (hostname not resolving to IP)
[12:35] <aaroncampbell> I'm sorry, I can't help much with the samba setup
[12:35] <kubuntian> ok
[12:40] <a-865> what does KDE use that corresponds to gnome-volume manager? I have bug 47516 , but no gnome. :-p
[12:43] <vzduch> KwikDisk?
[12:46] <a-865> no idea, I'm just trying to kill whatever is ejecting the music CD https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-volume-manager/+bug/47516
[12:46] <a-865> dunno how to figure out what that is
[12:47] <ReK_> anyone know what cfg file the startup fsck command is in?
[12:47] <ReK_> fstab?
[12:47] <vzduch> no
[12:47] <a-865>  /etc/fstab next to last character each line
[12:48] <vzduch> ah right
[12:48] <ReK_> thanks
[12:48] <vzduch> good night people :9
[12:48] <ReK_> now, any idea why my soundcard worked fine in edgy but kmix cant etect the mixer in feisty?
[12:48] <ReK_> detect*
[12:48] <a-865>  /etc/fstab next to last integer each line
[12:49] <ReK_> im on my windows boot now cause i havent installed madwifi yet, but i have a lspci dump for the soundcard
[12:50] <ReK_> anyone?
[12:50] <ReK_> sound is kinda vital :/
[12:51] <ReK_> and i have no idea where to start with troubleshooting it
[12:52] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[12:52] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:53] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[12:53] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:54] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[12:54] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:55] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[12:55] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:55] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[12:59] <roho> ok, flash works everywhere BUT youtube, in konqueror.  and trying to fool it with a different id doesn't work either
[01:01] <roho> but it works fine in youtube's test video
[01:02] <roho> i guess no one else has had this problem
[01:02] <Schuenemann> why are you using konqueror?
[01:03] <roho> lots of reasons
[01:03] <roho> i like it
[01:03] <roho> the answer to the problem is NOT "use another browser"
[01:04] <roho> this is kde channel after all
[01:04] <ReK_> opera ftw
[01:04] <sismas> how to install ati-driver-installer-8.38.6-x86.x86_64.run ?
[01:04] <Minataku> Opera and Konq FTL
[01:04] <roho> Minataku: that's not helpful.
[01:04] <ReK_> lemme guess, you like ff?
[01:04] <roho> if you're not going to help, then you're not helping
[01:05] <Minataku> Opera is nonfree and Konq is just another half-baked addition to the pile for no real reason
[01:05] <sismas> how to install ati-driver-installer-8.38.6-x86.x86_64.run ?
[01:05] <Minataku> KDE tries to reimplement existing excellent solutions
[01:05] <Schuenemann> roho, actually this is kubuntu channel :P
[01:05] <roho> Minataku: yeah, so take that NOT HELPFUL talk to a place that's not a support channel
[01:05] <roho> Schuenemann: so what's the K for?
[01:05] <Minataku> !attitude | roho
[01:05] <ubotu> roho: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:06] <roho> Minataku: i ask for help and you mock my request.  you need the attitude adjustment, not me
[01:06] <roho> perhaps you should read your link again
[01:06] <gnomefreak> roho: and Minataku please stop the bickering
[01:06] <ReK_> opera may not be gpl/non-free, but its a ton better than ff even so, and just because it's non-free doesn't mean they're automagically a big bad evil corporation. theyre actually pretty awesome
[01:06] <sismas> how to install ati-driver-installer-8.38.6-x86.x86_64.run ??? :(
[01:06] <Schuenemann> firefox (fx, not "ff") is way better than opera
[01:07] <Minataku> !ati
[01:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:07] <ReK_> lol
[01:07] <Minataku> Schuenemann: Nice to meet another true fan :D
[01:07] <Minataku> Someone read the FAQ :3
[01:08] <Minataku> ReK_: There's a superior AND open source solution available. Closed source is not an option in such an instance.
[01:08] <ulumulu> hi
[01:08] <Minataku> Hello
[01:08] <ReK_> ff is not superior to opera, thats my whole point
[01:09] <ulumulu> hm may i can ask a question
[01:09] <ReK_> if it were, i would be just as much of a fanboi of it as you
[01:09] <Schuenemann> which FAQ? I see instructions for graphic cards set up (which didn't help me when I needed it)
[01:09] <Schuenemann> no? does opera have tons of extensions?
[01:09] <Schuenemann> !ask | ulumulu
[01:09] <ubotu> ulumulu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:09] <Schuenemann> :-)
[01:09] <ulumulu> look i got a speedlink headset and iam not able to instal the driver
[01:09] <ReK_> the one, single thing that ff has over it, and it isnt even fully necessary as userjs is native and you dont need to install greasemonkey
[01:10] <ReK_> widgets are bad, ill admit
[01:10] <Schuenemann> so opera is better because fx needs an extension to be superior to it in ALL aspects
[01:10] <ulumulu> i selected it on alsa as a standard device but it wont accpept it
[01:10] <Minataku> ulumulu: Do you have a headset port?
[01:10] <ReK_> but full extensions are on the todo list
[01:10] <Minataku> Headsets are different
[01:10] <Minataku> They're a speaker/mic mix
[01:11] <ReK_> and no, because greasemonkey makes it on par with it in one aspect. in all others it still pales in comparson
[01:11] <Schuenemann> dude, opera doesn't have 10% of firefox's extensions
[01:11] <Minataku> Nor 1% of it's support base
[01:11] <ulumulu> ehm its usb with in inbuilt sounddevice
[01:12] <Schuenemann> not 0,5% of it's freeness :p
[01:12] <ReK_> again, extensions arent needed
[01:12] <Minataku> And for good reason, who aside from the devs can actively suppor something that nobody buy they know anything about
[01:12] <Schuenemann> aren't they? I have over 30 installed
[01:12] <ReK_> lets talk about other features, like resource usage (lol ff2)
[01:12] <Minataku> I have about 10
[01:12] <Minataku> Firefox 2 is excellent
[01:12] <Schuenemann> http://del.icio.us/Schuenemann/Extensions
[01:12] <Minataku> They've really cleaned it up
[01:12] <Minataku> Especially with 2.0.0.4
[01:13] <Minataku> I can run it for weeks without having to restart it
[01:13] <Minataku> Which isn't even a hassle anyway
[01:13] <Minataku> Never was
[01:13] <Schuenemann> I noticed 2.0.0.4 is better than 2.0.02
[01:13] <ulumulu> it seems the drivers arent built for linux yet
[01:13] <ReK_> i was running 15+ tabs, including some with flash, with less than half of the mem usage than 2 tabs in ff
[01:13] <Minataku> At least not with the "Restart Firefox" extension, which does it in one click
[01:13] <ulumulu> so is it possible to instal it anyway?
[01:13] <Minataku> ulumulu: You can't install a Windows driver into a Linux kernel
[01:14] <ReK_> well, it depends
[01:14] <ReK_> ndiswrapper?
[01:14] <Minataku> With the exception of ndiswrapper
[01:14] <ReK_> :P
[01:14] <ulumulu> well no hmm hard to explain
[01:14] <Minataku> Which isn't doing it either
[01:14] <ReK_> true
[01:15] <ulumulu> i instaled the usb driver properly but the device is not working
[01:15] <Minataku> Either way, the point is that the KDE team needs to focus on improving the DE as a whole, and scrap it's idiotic efforts at reimplementing existing solutions
[01:15] <Minataku> There is no need for Konqueror or KOffice
[01:15] <ReK_> true
[01:15] <ReK_> konq as a file browser works nicely. koffice is pointless in the face of OOo
[01:15] <Minataku> They're trying to imitate what Microsoft does
[01:15] <Daisuke_Ido> ReK_: not *entirely*
[01:16] <ReK_> and konq as a browser is pointless also, whether you use ff or opera
[01:16] <Minataku> And we all know how well their plan works
[01:16] <ReK_> how so?
[01:16] <Schuenemann> I've heard konqueror was the best browser for w3c support
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> with OOo being gtk+, some purists want a QT office suite
[01:16] <ReK_> problem is, the rest of the internet doesnt give two shits about w3c anymore
[01:16] <Schuenemann> but it doesn't support a text-transform attribute
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> so it has its place.  but it doesn't work that well.
[01:16] <Minataku> It's still a pointless reimplementation, Daisuke_Ido
[01:16] <Schuenemann> ReK_, anymore? they didn't care before. That is changing (slowly, but it is)
[01:16] <Minataku> And the fact that Kubuntu plans to replace OOo with KOffice is a huge blunder
[01:17] <Daisuke_Ido> definitely
[01:17] <Schuenemann> thanks to the stupid IE and tools like dreamweaver
[01:17] <ReK_> im all for w3c meaning something again, but at the moment, especially with this idiotic 'web 2.0' buzzword flying about, no one cares, and i cant see it changing drastically any time soon
[01:17] <Schuenemann> I see it changing. Yesterday, we had only IE. Today we have some other browsers
[01:18] <Daisuke_Ido> i had ff yesterday...
[01:18] <Minataku> Actually, in the past, it was only Mosaic
[01:18] <ReK_> replacing IE with other browsers has nothing to do with the w3c...
[01:18] <Schuenemann> yes, I mean past netscape vs IE
[01:18] <Daisuke_Ido> ReK_: the hell it doesn't.
[01:18] <Schuenemann> of course it does
[01:18] <ReK_> directly i mean
[01:18] <Minataku> Which is still a historical point of interest reflected in IE's UA
[01:18] <Daisuke_Ido> directly.
[01:18] <Minataku> Mozilla/4.0
[01:18] <sayers> How do I run K3b with root privlages?
[01:18] <Daisuke_Ido> sayers: you don't need to.
[01:18] <Schuenemann> IE and it's crappy implementation made web developers "forget" entirely about what w3c is
[01:19] <Minataku> Mozilla, I believe, being the original codename for Netscape
[01:19] <Daisuke_Ido> alternative browsers are generally striving to be w3c compliant
[01:19] <Schuenemann> sayers, kdesu k3b
[01:19] <sayers> Daisuke_Ido:  cdrecord will be run without root  privileges It is highly recommended to configure cdrecord to run with root privileges. Only then cdrecord runs with high priority which increases the overall stability of the burning process. Apart from that it allows changing the size of the used burning buffer. A lot of user problems could be solved this way. This is also true when using SuSE's resmg
[01:19] <Minataku> A name that still lives on to this day in UAs, the Mozilla internet suite and the Mozilla Foundation
[01:19] <Minataku> !sudo | sayers
[01:19] <ubotu> sayers: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:19] <ReK_> so one office changing off of IE, while applaudable, isnt going to give the w3c any more foothold. we'd need to knock IE down to at LEAST under the 50% usage, as opposed to the what, 0% it has now?
[01:19] <Daisuke_Ido> that doesn't mean you have to run k3b as root.
[01:20] <sayers> Yes I know about sudo...
[01:20] <Daisuke_Ido> cdrecord != k3b
[01:20] <Minataku> Oh, k3b
[01:20] <Minataku> Bah
[01:20] <sayers> Daisuke_Ido: I am on gusty...
[01:20] <Minataku> I use cdrecord straight from the CLI
[01:20] <Daisuke_Ido> sayers: so?
[01:20] <Minataku> Using a GUI to make/burn an image just slows things down
[01:20] <Daisuke_Ido> k3b is still k3b
[01:20] <Schuenemann> ReK_, dude, today web developers (still) made some fishy page full of tables, non-standardized and say "IE is recommended"
[01:21] <sayers> Daisuke_Ido: So in Feisty that messege doesnt display. But still happens?
[01:21] <ReK_> yes, i know, i worked with one last year
[01:21] <Minataku> Schuenemann: That is receeding
[01:21] <Daisuke_Ido> use the "configure" thing in k3b
[01:21] <ReK_> i forced him to learn divs
[01:21] <Minataku> Along with IE's share
[01:21] <Schuenemann> ReK_, great
[01:21] <Minataku> It's actually a lot less than reported, BTW
[01:21] <Minataku> Given the fact that some sites try to force IE via UA detection
[01:22] <Schuenemann> if IE has, say, 50%, users will say: NO, I don't want to install this trash. I want to use my own browser. I access many websites with this browser, why can't I access yours too?
[01:22] <Schuenemann> oh, UA == user agent? I thought it was user agreement heh
[01:22] <Minataku> :P
[01:22] <Daisuke_Ido> Minataku: i'm happy, my bank actually supports firefox and linux
[01:22] <Daisuke_Ido> verizon, however, does not.
[01:22] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: That's good
[01:22] <Schuenemann> I access my bank using firefox and linux too
[01:23] <Schuenemann> but not my university website
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> and i hate them with a passion
[01:23] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Yeah, my cellphone is Verizon, but not for long
[01:23] <Minataku> Switching to AT&T
[01:23] <ReK_> then the IE idiots can go away and complain at MS to make their shitter browser w3c compliant. at 50%, we'll still have half of the interwebs on our side, which should be survivable. 20% isnt
[01:23] <Schuenemann> luckily I don't access it too muchj
[01:23] <Minataku> Because Verizon uses frickin' CDMA
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> you're getting an iphone, don't lie :)
[01:23] <Minataku> While the rest of the civilized...
[01:23] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Run
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> :P
[01:23] <ReK_> my uni site supports ie and ff, not opera, but i ust identify as ff
[01:23] <Minataku> Because if you're not outta my sight in 60 seconds I'ma kick your ass
[01:24] <Schuenemann> ReK_, you're right, but isn't it changing :-) ?
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> i use centennial, which is nice, no phone lockdown
[01:24] <Schuenemann> when it was at 100%, "no one" knew what was w3c
[01:24] <ReK_> its changing, but not to FOSS, safari is where most of the ie users are going
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> the eff?
[01:24] <Minataku> I'd switch back to Windows before I used any modern Apple piece of sh*t
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> are you brain damaged?
[01:24] <BluesKaj> safari = boring
[01:24] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Apple is more evil than Microsoft
[01:24] <sayers> Daisuke_Ido: Where is the setting
[01:25] <Daisuke_Ido> no one's switching to safari on windows.
[01:25] <Schuenemann> safari? well, that might depend on the region. I have never seen a Mac in my life, so I don't know about anyone going to safari
[01:25] <BluesKaj> anarchy!
[01:25] <Daisuke_Ido> sayers: it should be right there where that message showed up.
[01:25] <ReK_> i know it is, but its got more market share than any single FOSS browser other than ff
[01:25] <Schuenemann> !foss
[01:25] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[01:25] <Schuenemann> what is that foss?
[01:25] <Minataku> That's because of pretentious Mac users
[01:25] <ReK_> those who stay on windows get ff, but of those who move off of windows, the lion's share go to mac
[01:25] <ReK_> Free/Open-Source Software
[01:25] <Daisuke_Ido> ReK_: maybe because ff is about the only good (graphical) foss browser?
[01:25] <sismas> wher is Restricted Drivers Manager ?
[01:25] <Schuenemann> I see everybody going from IE to firefox; and some to opera
[01:25] <Minataku> Right, to Mac which is far, far worse
[01:26] <Schuenemann> and people don't know what is FOSS too :-)
[01:26] <ReK_> i support apple right now purely because of vmware
[01:26] <Minataku> ReK_: You shouldn't support Apple at all
[01:26] <Daisuke_Ido> most apple users i know use firefox because they can't stand safari.
[01:26] <sayers> Daisuke_Ido: No..?
[01:26] <ReK_> my friend with a macbook uses ff opera and safari, says it depends on his mood...
[01:26] <Daisuke_Ido> and that's an easy dozen, just around here
[01:26] <Minataku> At least Microsoft doesn't lock you into ugly, overpriced, underpowered hardware as well as shoddy, lousy software
[01:27] <Schuenemann> ReK_, where do you live?
[01:27] <ReK_> vancouver
[01:27] <sayers> Minataku: not as much atleast ;p
[01:27] <hasan> how can i create a shared folder for samba?
[01:27] <BluesKaj>  i assume that Ff can browse anywhere in Linux where IE can in windows or 99% of sites including banks and other institutions including universities
[01:27] <Daisuke_Ido> Minataku: that's your opinion, and you're welcome to it :P  some people like apple software AND hardware, and they're more than welcome to that opinion
[01:27] <Schuenemann> in Brazil, no one has a mac
[01:27] <Minataku> And PCs are still fully customizable and upgradeable
[01:27] <Schuenemann> hence no one uses safari
[01:27] <hasan> i have created a folder named Shared in my home directory
[01:27] <Minataku> Daisuke_Ido: Tell me when I can custom build a Mac
[01:27] <Minataku> And maybe I'll change my views
[01:28] <hasan> but when i type smb:/192.168.1.2/Shared in konqueror it gives an error
[01:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i didn't say to change your views, i said not to force them on others :)
[01:28] <Minataku> I feel very safe in saying that because I know for a fact THEY'LL NEVER LET IT HAPPEN
[01:28] <Minataku> I'm not forcing anything on anyone
[01:28] <Daisuke_Ido> because maybe they like it
[01:28] <roho> i'm with Minataku on that one.
[01:28] <roho> it probably voids the warranty to open one up, too
[01:28] <Daisuke_Ido> roho: nope, it doesn't.
[01:28] <Minataku> Why don't you learn the damn difference between voicing the reason for my opinion and trying to force it on people
[01:29] <Daisuke_Ido> [19:27]  <Minataku> ReK_: You shouldn't support Apple at all
[01:29] <Daisuke_Ido> that sounds like forcing to me.
[01:29] <Minataku> Note "shouldn't"
[01:29] <Schuenemann> hehehe
[01:29] <Minataku> Contraction of "should not"
[01:29] <Minataku> "Should" usually indicating a suggestion
[01:29] <ReK_> i dont support apple myself, but i do like vmware, because it should be prtable to linux
[01:29] <Daisuke_Ido> yes, telling people that they should not do something YOU disapprove of is considered pushing, maybe not FORCING, but pushing your beliefs on someone
[01:29] <roho> forcing is "YOU WILL"
[01:29] <Minataku> A suggestion being advice one wishes another to take under consideration
[01:30] <Schuenemann> YOU MUST OR YOU'LL DIE
[01:30] <sismas> how to install ati video driver ?
[01:30] <Minataku> ReK_: VMWare DOES run on Linux
[01:30] <Minataku> !ati | sismas
[01:30] <ubotu> sismas: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:30] <Schuenemann> honestly, I think if someone isn't using IE, he's right
[01:30] <XVampireX> Hi, I know it's not related to just kubuntu
[01:30] <XVampireX> but how do I choose a specific alsa driver to load
[01:31] <XVampireX> I don't want the built-in sound card
[01:31] <XVampireX> I want the PCI soundcard that I installed
[01:31] <XVampireX> !alsa
[01:31] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:32] <Minataku> Both should work at once
[01:32] <Minataku> Just configure your individual apps to use the PCI one
[01:32] <Tenerifedave> i have a problem installing proftpd...
[01:32] <BluesKaj> XVampireX, you prolly should go into your BIOS and turn off the soundcard in peripherlas that you don't want and enable the PCI card
[01:32] <Minataku> In sounds apps under drivers there should be an option to configure ALSA settings
[01:32] <sayers> Daisuke_Ido: k3bsetup is the command
[01:32] <Tenerifedave> here is the log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27531/
[01:32] <Tenerifedave> anyone can help will be much appreciated
[01:33] <BluesKaj> err peripherals
[01:33] <XVampireX> BluesKaj: Oh, good idea :D
[01:33] <XVampireX> and alsa won't load it?
[01:33] <Minataku> Tenerife... isn't that where one of the worst airplane disasters occured?
[01:33] <Tenerifedave> yep
[01:33] <Minataku> I saw a show about it on Discovery Times
[01:33] <Daisuke_Ido> there ya go :)
[01:33] <Minataku> lol
[01:33] <Tenerifedave> 2 airliners collided
[01:33] <Minataku> On the runway, yeah
[01:33] <BluesKaj> XVampireX, that's what i had to do on my other old pc
[01:33] <Tenerifedave> yeah thats the one
[01:34] <Minataku> Like a car accident, only far, far deadlier
[01:34] <Minataku> XP
[01:34] <Tenerifedave> lmao just a bit
[01:35] <BluesKaj> lmao ? ...what's funny about hundreds of ppl dying
[01:35] <Tenerifedave> thats not funny at all
[01:35] <ReK_> wheres the clown?
[01:35] <coreymon77> its not the people dying thats funny
[01:36] <coreymon77> its just the crashes are usually funny to watch
[01:36] <Minataku> Car crashes are exciting
[01:36] <Minataku> That's why I love cop shows
[01:36] <Minataku> Both real (ala COPS) and fake (ala CHiPs) :D
[01:36] <Minataku> CHiPs, BTW, ftfw
[01:36] <Tenerifedave> lol
[01:36] <Minataku> :3
[01:37] <Tenerifedave> any1 have any idea about my problem?
[01:37] <Tenerifedave> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27531/
[01:38] <Tenerifedave> trying to set up proftpd on my box
[01:38] <persephone> hello..I'm looking for some help on VMware
[01:38] <Minataku> !vmware
[01:38] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[01:39] <BluesKaj> some freiends died in the tenerife disaster , so i guess I'm a bit sensitive about it...they were on the Pan Am flight
[01:39] <Minataku> BluesKaj: Holy crap
[01:39] <Tenerifedave> oh right
[01:39] <BluesKaj> <--old
[01:39] <Minataku> BluesKaj: He was laughing at my not-really-a-joke-comment [19:32:41]  Minataku Like a car accident, only far, far deadlier
[01:39] <Tenerifedave> have you seen the memorial "stairs" they have put up here
[01:39] <BluesKaj> ok , that's cool
[01:40] <Minataku> Tenerifedave: I haven't, no
[01:40] <Minataku> Tenerifedave: Your /etc/hosts is misconfigured, I think
[01:40] <Tenerifedave> hmmm ok
[01:40] <Minataku> You need to specify an IP for "computer"
[01:40] <Tenerifedave> ahhh
[01:40] <Minataku> Lemme get what's in mine for ya
[01:41] <persephone> I've downloaded the VMware evaluation from their site and don't know hoiw to INSTALL it..I've tried APT
[01:41] <Minataku> 127.0.0.1       Piyoko.EdNet Piyoko localhost
[01:41] <kubuntian> hello everybody, i am trying to share a printer with a windows machine using the functionalities offered by CUPS
[01:41] <Daisuke_Ido> well apt ain't gonna help if you downloaded it from their site
[01:41] <Minataku> So yours should be "127.0.0.1 computer computer localhost"
[01:41] <Daisuke_Ido> is it a tarball?
[01:41] <persephone> I've got it EXPANDED in a folder
[01:41] <XVampireX> BluesKaj: Hi?
[01:41] <Daisuke_Ido> gzipped tarball?  bzip2?
[01:41] <persephone> yes Tar
[01:41] <Tenerifedave> yep thats it Minataku
[01:41] <Minataku> Tenerifedave: Toss that in there and tell me if it works
[01:41] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, go into that folder
[01:41] <sayers> Where is the CDRECORD module located so I can just chmod 4711 it
[01:41] <kubuntian> i followed the guide that you can find at the page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[01:42] <Daisuke_Ido> persephone: are you doing this from a console?
[01:42] <persephone> OK hold on while I bring it up
[01:42] <Tenerifedave> i have in mine Minataku: 127.0.0.1 localhost, 127.0.1.1 computer.MSHOME
[01:42] <kubuntian> but in windows, after spefying the address, windows asks me for a username/password.. i tried my linux machine passwords but it didn't work.. which one am i supposed to insert?
[01:43] <Minataku> Tenerifedave: Hm
[01:43] <persephone> OK got the folder open
[01:43] <Daisuke_Ido> in a terminal
[01:43] <Minataku> Interesting
[01:43] <illriginal> Has anyone installed Photoshop 7.0 using Crossover?
[01:43] <Daisuke_Ido> there should be something with install in the name, maybe
[01:44] <persephone> yes from Konquer
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> not konqueror
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> a terminal
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> konsole
[01:44] <persephone> which terminal should I use?
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> even xterm, i don't care
[01:44] <Daisuke_Ido> they all work just as well :)
[01:45] <persephone> OK..which ever is easy :)
[01:45] <Daisuke_Ido> you're using linux.  not everything is going to be easy :)
[01:46] <persephone> I'm begining to find that out :)
[01:46] <persephone> OK..I got terminal up
[01:46] <kubuntian> hello everybody, i am trying to share a printer with a windows machine using the functionalities offered by CUPS.  i followed the guide that you can find at the page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP but in windows, after specifying the printer address, windows asks me for a username/password.. i tried my linux machine passwords but it didn't work.. which one am i supposed to insert?
[01:47] <Daisuke_Ido> persephone: where's the directory you expanded the tarball to?
[01:47] <Daisuke_Ido> something like: /home/yourusername/Desktop/something?
[01:47] <Daisuke_Ido> and i will be RIGHT back, phone
[01:47] <Minataku> Tenerifedave: Add "computer" to the end of that second line
[01:48] <Tenerifedave> ok
[01:48] <Tenerifedave> so computer.MSHOME.computer?
[01:49] <persephone> it's HERE: /home/persephone/Desktop/ DX DOWNLOAD/VMware/vmware-distrib
[01:49] <Minataku> No
[01:49] <Minataku> No .
[01:50] <Tenerifedave> ok
[01:50] <Tenerifedave> MSHOMEcomputer? or a space?
[01:50] <Tenerifedave> sorry about this lol
[01:50] <Minataku> Yeah, space or tab
[01:50] <Minataku> It's okay
[01:50] <Tenerifedave> ok :)
[01:50] <Minataku> Better you asked than assumed XD
[01:50] <Tenerifedave> hehe
[01:50] <persephone> so where should Imove this folder?
[01:51] <Tenerifedave> hmmm its giving me a IPv6 error...
[01:51] <Tenerifedave> no address associated with hostname computer.MSHOME
[01:52] <Minataku> Well
[01:52] <Minataku> At least it's a new one
[01:52] <Minataku> >.<
[01:52] <Tenerifedave> lol
[01:52] <Tenerifedave> getting somewhere
[01:52] <Minataku> That means we fixed the IPv4 error
[01:52] <Tenerifedave> oooo
[01:52] <Daisuke_Ido> cd /home/persephone/Desktop/DX\ Download/VMware/vmware-distrib
[01:52] <Minataku> As for the IPv6 error... I don't use IPv6
[01:52] <Daisuke_Ido> copy and paste
[01:52] <Tenerifedave> i dont either
[01:52] <Tenerifedave> lol
[01:52] <Minataku> So I'm out of help >.<
[01:52] <Daisuke_Ido> cd = change directory
[01:52] <Minataku> XD
[01:52] <Minataku> Sorry X3
[01:52] <persephone> OK..hold
[01:53] <Tenerifedave> i dont use IPv4 :S lol
[01:53] <Tenerifedave> only*
[01:53] <Minataku> Same
[01:53] <Minataku> But I can disable IPv6 when I compile my kernels
[01:53] <Tenerifedave> hmmm what else did you have in your hosts file?
[01:53] <Minataku> Just that line
[01:53] <Tenerifedave> did you have some stuff about IPv6?
[01:53] <Tenerifedave> ahh right
[01:53] <Tenerifedave> i have stuff about IPv6
[01:54] <persephone> says I'm at /desktop$
[01:54] <Minataku> Add computer to the end of the one with "computer.MSHOME"
[01:54] <Minataku> Same way as the last one you added to
[01:54] <Daisuke_Ido> cd /home
[01:54] <Tenerifedave> cant i just delete all the IPv6 stuff?
[01:54] <Daisuke_Ido> cd persephone
[01:54] <Minataku> Tenerifedave: No
[01:54] <Minataku> That'll break stuff
[01:55] <Tenerifedave> oh ok lol
[01:55] <Tenerifedave> i shall not do that then
[01:55] <persephone> at /home$
[01:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ls
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> ls = list files/directories
[01:56] <Tenerifedave> hmm right when i do "apt-get install proftpd" now it just says its the newest version and no errors
[01:56] <persephone> lists: persephon
[01:56] <persephone> persephone
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> cd to that
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> cd persephone
[01:56] <Tenerifedave> i think its sorted Minataku
[01:56] <Minataku> Tenerifedave: Then... you already have it
[01:57] <Minataku> Tenerifedave: Cool
[01:57] <Daisuke_Ido> then you should be able to cd Desktop
[01:57] <Tenerifedave> im in on ftp://locahost
[01:57] <Tenerifedave> :D
[01:57] <Minataku> Sweet :3
[01:57] <Tenerifedave> cheers for your help dude, that must have fixed it
[01:57] <Minataku> Enjoy :D
[01:57] <Daisuke_Ido> remember, linux is case sensitive, Desktop isn't the same as desktop
[01:57] <persephone> yes doing it..starting to get the hang :)
[01:57] <Tenerifedave> i shall :D
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> excellent
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> there's another e in there somewhere, i'm too tired to correct it :)
[01:58] <persephone> OK done that
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> nope Daisuke_Ido thats the correct way to spell it!
[01:59] <persephone> tried cd DX DOWNLOAD..say no such directory
[01:59] <Daisuke_Ido> persephone: now you discover why spaces are a pain :)
[02:00] <Daisuke_Ido> cd DX
[02:00] <Daisuke_Ido> then hit <tab>
[02:00] <persephone> yes..guess I'm too use to windows :(
[02:00] <Daisuke_Ido> that's where the \ came from when i typed out the whole path
[02:01] <persephone> then I put in DOWNLOAD right? :)
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> after you hit tab it should auto-complete it for you
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> or you can use cd DX\ DOWNLOAD
[02:02] <persephone> it didn't auto..let me try again
[02:03] <persephone> keeps say no file
[02:03] <Daisuke_Ido> ls
[02:03] <persephone> I did..it shows there
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> wait, you had a space in there.  i can't imagine it starting with a space, or even if it can...
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> try cd \<tab>
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> this is a long shot that i have no idea whether it will work or not.
[02:04] <persephone> oops..there is a space before the /
[02:05] <persephone> before DX
[02:05] <Daisuke_Ido> did cd \<tab> complete it for you?
[02:07] <persephone> no..gives me another \
[02:08] <persephone> can change the name of the folder now without spav=ces
[02:08] <persephone> can change the name of the folder now without spaces
[02:09] <Daisuke_Ido> if you want, you can rename that folder from within konqueror, remove the space at the beginning
[02:09] <persephone> OK..hold
[02:10] <persephone> OK changed it to downloads
[02:11] <Daisuke_Ido> alrighty then, that will make this easier
[02:11] <Daisuke_Ido> cd downloads
[02:11] <persephone> OK..got to VMware folder
[02:11] <persephone> ls
[02:11] <persephone> did a lisrt
[02:11] <solid_liq> !pingme
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pingme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <Daisuke_Ido> awesome
[02:12] <persephone> :)
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> is there a file with "install" in it?
[02:12] <persephone> I use to work with CLI when I had My AMIGA
[02:12] <persephone> Amiga has a cli very semilier to UNIX
[02:12] <Daisuke_Ido> i miss the amiga
[02:13] <persephone> me too..luv them..
[02:13] <persephone> I'm re setting mine up..it has a M68060 in it ..A1200
[02:14] <Daisuke_Ido> nice, all i ever owned was a 500 :\
[02:14] <Minataku> I'll be getting some Amigas soon
[02:14] <Minataku> 3 A1200s
[02:14] <Minataku> And a CD32
[02:15] <persephone> cd32 was a under appreciated  device
[02:15] <persephone> I also have Amiga Forever on Windows XP
[02:16] <persephone> there is a folder under VMware called vmware-distrib
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> cd vmware-distrib
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> that's where you want to be
[02:17] <persephone> ok
[02:17] <persephone> I'm there
[02:17] <persephone> this is where the Tar was expanded to
[02:18] <Daisuke_Ido> that's good
[02:18] <Daisuke_Ido> is there anything indicating an install or setup file in the directory listing?
[02:18] <persephone> there is a folder called installer
[02:19] <persephone> also a file called: vmware-install.pl
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> try this:
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> sh vmware-install.pl
[02:20] <persephone> ok
[02:22] <persephone> got a bunch of errors vmware-install.pl  8  not found
[02:23] <persephone> also 13, 16, 18, 21 , 27
[02:24] <persephone>  Syntax error: "{" unexpected (expecting "then")
[02:24] <Daisuke_Ido> try perl vmware-install.pl
[02:24] <persephone> ok
[02:24] <Daisuke_Ido> to be honest, this is kind of the blind leading the blind here
[02:24] <persephone> haha I understand the problem
[02:26] <persephone> got THIS: This version of "VMware Workstation" is incompatible with this operating
[02:26] <persephone> system.  Please install the "i386" version of this program instead.
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> you using the 64 bit version?
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> (of kubuntu)
[02:27] <persephone> guess I should talk to VMware..I thought I downloaded the right version for my computer
[02:27] <persephone> yes
[02:27] <persephone> 64 bit
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> wait, it's asking for the i386
[02:27] <persephone> I have a athlon X2 64 bit processor
[02:28] <persephone> yes I 386
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> But did you install the amd64 version of Kubuntu?
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> right, but if you're using the standard kubuntu release, it's 32 bit
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> which means you'll need the i386 version of vmware
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> (I tried it for a couple months, and I just switched over to i386)
[02:28] <persephone> Ithink I have the 64 bit version of Kubuntu
[02:29] <persephone> actually it was Ubuntu I add the Kubuntu-desktop
[02:30] <Daisuke_Ido> at the console, type uname -r
[02:31] <persephone> 2.6.20-16-generic
[02:31] <persephone> hmmmm
[02:31] <Daisuke_Ido> that's no help then :(
[02:31] <persephone> perhaps I should load Kubuntu from scartch
[02:31] <roho> what package is klash part of?
[02:33] <Daisuke_Ido> persephone: just get the other version from vmware's site :)
[02:33] <persephone> Iappreciate your help and don't mean to belittle it..but i THINK I should get help from VMware..they do want to SELL it :)
[02:34] <persephone> they emphasize they are will to help with the evaluation software
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> also a valid route
[02:34] <Daisuke_Ido> they would probably be more helpful than i've been
[02:35] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, there's an AMD 64 bit version of Kubuntu ?
[02:35] <persephone> I want to get out from under WINDOZE forever..but I have some applications that only run on WINDOZE
[02:35] <BluesKaj> how can it be AMD specific?
[02:35] <persephone> you've been very helpful..at least we found out there is a problem
[02:36] <BluesKaj> persephone, which ones?
[02:36] <persephone> Ithought I had the 64 bit version..don't know if it is AMD specific
[02:37] <persephone> it might even be a X2 problem
[02:38] <persephone> I luved the old term from my Amiga days of WINDOZE
[02:38] <persephone> :):)
[02:38] <persephone> :)
[02:38] <persephone> :D
[02:38] <persephone> :X
[02:38] <persephone> :x
[02:38] <SlimG> How should a ktorrent regex pattern look like to work? .* doesn't work
[02:39] <darkrift411> ..
[02:39] <darkrift411> i think
[02:39] <Tenerifedave> anyone know the command to list your hard drives and where they are mounted in the shell?
[02:39] <darkrift411> been a long time since i used regex
[02:39] <darkrift411> but i think .. is like wildcards *
[02:40] <SlimG> darkrift411: thanks, it does
[02:40] <darkrift411> :)
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> Tenerifedave: mount, or df
[02:40] <Tenerifedave> ahh thank you nosrednaekim
[02:40] <darkrift411> i wrote a script in mirc to convert wildcards to regex once
[02:40] <darkrift411> used it to create spamfilters on a network i used to run.... those were the days
[02:42] <persephone> Minataku..when are you getting your 3 A1200?
[02:42] <Minataku> Whenever a friend sends them to me
[02:42] <Minataku> lol
[02:43] <persephone> Daisuke..is your name like that Red Sox Pitcher?
[02:44] <persephone> well..enjoy the A12oo..they are good computers and still use as a multimedia machinfe in some circles :D
[02:45] <persephone> some Star Wars movies were made using them
[02:46] <darkrift411> i thought vlc could play thru lots of errors
[02:46] <darkrift411> how come soo many things work better in windows :@
[02:46] <darkrift411> firefox and now vlc
[02:46] <dfff> ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution ????
[02:47] <dfff> what to do ?
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> dfff: I think you have to run that as root
[02:47] <dfff> im run from root
[02:48] <persephone>  Daisuke_ido are you still here?
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> oh.. ok
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> Daisuke_Ido is ALWAYS here
[02:49] <Schuenemann> what does "free as in beer means" ?
[02:49] <Schuenemann> what does "free as in beer" means ? *
[02:49] <Schuenemann> mean**
[02:49] <persephone>  Daisuke_ido I do THANK YOUfor your help..I appreciate it a lot :D
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> it means its free, but you don't know what went into it
[02:49] <BluesKaj> someone has paid for it , just not you :)
[02:49] <dfff> ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution ????what to do ??
[02:50] <Schuenemann> but beer isn't free?
[02:50] <Schuenemann> but beer isn't free! (horrible typing today)
[02:50] <persephone> it is when someone else buys :)
[02:50] <BluesKaj> it is if someone else is paying
[02:50] <Schuenemann> hummm heh
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> I was about to say "what have you been drinking?"
[02:51] <paranda> hola
[02:52] <dfff> ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution ????what to do ??
[02:53] <matt__> i am used to ubuntu, but am trying out kde, or kubuntu-desktop, whatever you wanna call it. i found a theme off of kde-look, it is a kth file, how do i apply it?
[02:53] <Schuenemann> hehe
[02:54] <paranda> hola quien habla espaol
[02:54] <rolando> hola, alguien puede ayudarme con kubuntu y mi pinnacle
[02:54] <TeraDyne> !es | paranda
[02:54] <ubotu> paranda: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:54] <Schuenemann> !es | paranda
[02:54] <coreymon77> !es | paranda
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: hey sorry I couldn't make it yesterday
[02:55] <matt__> paranda: hable espanol, pero nada mucho
[02:55] <matt__> how do you apply files of of kde look?
[02:55] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: no prob, i accidentally slept through it anyways, :P
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: haha
[02:56] <matt__> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/B%C3%A9o?content=60013
[02:56] <Dragnslcr> Anyone know if there's a shell program that can be used to put something in KDE's on-screen display?
[02:56] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: and they were so disorganized that even if i was there, they wouldnt have gotten to me anyways
[02:56] <matt__> i would i make that my system theme?
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77: ah, ok.
[02:56] <compilerwriter> !sp | paranda
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <compilerwriter> !es | paranda
[02:56] <ubotu> paranda: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: onscreen display?
[02:57] <matt__> in kubuntu, how do you change the theme?
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> matt__: you have to open "kcontrol"
[02:57] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- yeah, the messages in the top-left of the screen. I know Kopete and Amarok use it
[02:58] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: oh, thats libnotify
[02:58] <Dragnslcr> Hm. Know if there's a shell command to control it?
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: no clue...
[03:02] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- hm, you sure about that? I don't have any of the packages listed in Adept for 'notify' installed, but Amarok still displays them
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> hmm... maybe not..
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> just a second... i know where to find it..
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: hmmm seems to be a python class in guidance that does the power manager popups
[03:05] <Dragnslcr> Maybe it's /usr/lib/kde3/knotify.la ?
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> no clue where the python module is...
[03:07] <Dragnslcr> There's a python-notify package that requires libnotify1
[03:07] <darkrift411> how do i make knetworkmgr show my wifi signal meter again instead of a cat5 plug?
[03:07] <darkrift411> it used to work
[03:07] <darkrift411> and something happened
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: that could be it.. is it installed?
[03:07] <Dragnslcr> Nope. libnotify1 isn't even installed
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: are you still connected via wireless
[03:08] <darkrift411> yes
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: do you have guidance power manager installed?
[03:08] <darkrift411> could it be because my wifi is called eth1 ?
[03:08] <darkrift411> and if so, can i rename it?
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: no,I don't think so
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> it does that for me too sometimes.
[03:08] <darkrift411> it used to show
[03:08] <darkrift411> and then one day it wouldnt connect
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> knetworkmanager is buggy
[03:09] <darkrift411> so i was in there and i noticed it had a bad subnet, and i removed the subnet and wifi worked
[03:09] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- yeah, both of the kde-guidance packages are installed
[03:09] <darkrift411> but the icon hasnt been right since
[03:09] <darkrift411> can i rename eth1 to wifi1
[03:09] <darkrift411> and will that kill other things
 knetworkmanager is buggy
[03:10] <cWolfe> its crazy buggy
[03:11] <darkrift411> heh
[03:11] <cWolfe> its so buggy its not even funny
[03:11] <darkrift411> is there a better app to use?
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> Plug-and-Pray?
[03:11] <darkrift411> i just want something that sits in tray showing if im connected, and hopefully a signal meter
[03:11] <cWolfe> ive been doing the manual ip thing
[03:11] <cWolfe> oh, for wifi
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: I think kwifimanager does it, but it doesn't do WPA
[03:11] <cWolfe> i dont use wifi
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> I gave up on wireless several years ago. Of course, I don't really like laptops anyway
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: you know... I have no clue.. but you should be able to write a python program to do it.
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> Eh
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> It's already in a shell script, which is why I wanted a shell command
[03:13] <darkrift411> erm
[03:13] <darkrift411> when i close kwifimanager, it doesnt go to tray
[03:14] <darkrift411> it closes :(
[03:14] <Dragnslcr> I finally discovered that Kopete can do what I miss most about Trillian
[03:14] <darkrift411> nvm
[03:14] <darkrift411> found option to fix gtat
[03:14] <darkrift411> that*
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: thats cool, tho I use GAIM (aka pidgin b4 everyone flames me)
[03:15] <hitmanWilly> nosrednaekim: nah, if you're using the one from the repos its still gaim :)
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I was using Gaim. I figure I should start using Kopete though
[03:16] <Dragnslcr> Gaim seems to be getting less customization-friendly
[03:16] <darkrift411> does kapote have a google talk plugin?
[03:16] <Dragnslcr> Kopete supports Jabber, yes
[03:16] <jriachi> is there something like  pdf2jpeg, or something like that?
[03:18] <ffff2fff> !ati
[03:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: ok.. I have libnotify1 installed
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> Maybe for that Python package you mentioned
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: how about notification-daemon?
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> Not installed
[03:20] <hitmanWilly> !info libnotify1
[03:20] <ubotu> libnotify1: sends desktop notifications to a notification daemon. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.3-1 (feisty), package size 24 kB, installed size 92 kB
[03:20] <hitmanWilly> !info notification-daemon
[03:20] <ubotu> notification-daemon: a daemon that displays passive pop-up notifications. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.6-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 43 kB, installed size 188 kB
[03:21] <jriachi> hello
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: go get libnotify-bin. that does what you want
[03:22] <hitmanWilly> jriachi: howdy
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> just tested it out
[03:22] <Tachyon> I'm having a problem installing Kubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 6400.  After I select "Start or install Kubuntu", it loads the Linux kernel and the Kubuntu startup screen, but then the screen goes blank with a cursor flashing in the upper left hand corner.
[03:22] <Tachyon> Nothing I do has any effect.
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: and then do "man notify-send"
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- I was about to say that seems somewhat odd that Amarok can do the OSD messages if that isn't installed
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> it must use something else
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> but that will do what you want
[03:24] <jriachi> hitmanWilly: taking a break. (studing communications electronic tonight :) )
[03:24] <hitmanWilly> :)
[03:25] <hitmanWilly> amarok probably has some sort of direct interface to the kde desktop
[03:25] <bigperm> what is the difference between the cd and dvd versions of kubuntu
[03:26] <TeraDyne> You know, I have the Amarok source on my laptop here. I'll see if I can find what it uses for the OSD.
[03:26] <hitmanWilly> or possibly uses its own built in routines
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- doesn't seem to work. I thought Kopete used it too, but I guess it doesn't
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> libnotify-bin doesn't work?
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> Maybe Amarok is special
[03:28] <kalorin`> any brilliant hardware types out there?
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> notify-send Test "This is a test"
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> I didn't see anything
[03:28] <kalorin`> trying to figure out what mhz my cpu is running at in this machine
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> No big deal. I thought that OSD was part of KDE, but maybe it is just part of Amarok
[03:28] <bigperm> what is the difference between the cd and dvd versions of kubuntu?
[03:28] <TeraDyne> Looks like Amarok uses it's own custom OSD.
[03:29] <kalorin`> bigperm: likely how much it'll have to download if you want to install more stuff
[03:29] <hitmanWilly> bigperm: more packages on the dvd that you'll probably need to update anyway :)
[03:29] <Dragnslcr> I just wanted to toss a little extra feedback into my shell scripts that set my Kopete status. It's not all that important
[03:30] <SlimG> bigperm: DVD installs the correct language packs for your chosen language afair
[03:31] <SlimG> bigperm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=307060
[03:31] <darkrift411> i cant find kopete plugins anywhere :(
[03:32] <cWolfe> i have blackcats-games invites if anyone wants
[03:32] <cWolfe> sorry, wrong channel, the offer still stands though
[03:32] <bigperm> thanks a bunch
[03:32] <bigperm> I just bought a inspiron 1200 with a crap ethernet port and it looks like the dvd version is going to be better
[03:34] <Dragnslcr> I still say that you have a DVD burner, blank discs, and an extra day or so for the download, you might as well get the DVD
[03:35] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: ahh... the notifications go to the bottom left hand corner with this command "notify-send -c Notify "test"
[03:35] <The_Un-Named> does anyone have a 7.04 minimal cd download link?
[03:35] <darkrift411> how do you get kopete to connect to your gmail chat?
[03:36] <darkrift411> i entered it in email@gmail.com
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> darkrift411: instructiona are on the google site
[03:36] <darkrift411> and my password
[03:36] <darkrift411> but it wont connect
[03:36] <darkrift411> oh, i c
[03:36] <darkrift411> :)
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: try it out.
[03:37] <bigperm> the DVD torrent is rocking a solid 700k
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> and I have to go.. c ya
[03:37] <bigperm> with built-in hash checks, it's the way to download
[03:37] <bigperm> only and hour to go
[03:38] <e0f> Hi guys. How can I change my desktop resolution on kubuntu without edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? thanks :)
[03:38] <hasan> hi gyus
[03:38] <hasan> who uses kmldonkey?
[03:38] <hasan> how can i add new servers to it?
[03:38] <hasan> as it was the case with amule from servers.met file
[03:39] <hasan> or do i have to add every server manually one by one?
[03:39] <hitmanWilly> e0f: if you have an nvidia card you can use nvidia-settings
[03:40] <e0f> hitmanWilly: nope, i've i915 :)
[03:40] <Schuenemann> I need help setting up my nvidia graphic card (and please, I already know the wiki link and wasn't able to accomplish it)
[03:40] <hitmanWilly> e0f: well, system settings should have an option to change it, but its limited by what's in xorg.conf IIRC
[03:41] <sweettooth> hey there, my kdenetworkmanager doesn't seem very stable at times, after reboot, sometimes it does not detect any network at all, has any one got an idea?
[03:41] <e0f> hitmanWilly: i didn't found that in system settings!!
[03:42] <hitmanWilly> e0f: display settings?
[03:42] <coreymon77> sweettooth: what type of network connection
[03:42] <cWolfe> so back to an earlier topic, im the only one with fiesty that cant burn a file bigger than 4BG on a dl dvd?
[03:42] <e0f> hitmanWilly: yeah, I didn't found display setting in my kubuntu!! :(
[03:42] <cWolfe> s/4BG/4GB
[03:42] <sweettooth> coreymon77, it is wireless connection
[03:42] <hitmanWilly> e0f: it may be under the advanced tab
[03:43] <e0f> hitmanWilly: mmmm yeah but where? lol
[03:43] <hitmanWilly> e0f: if you still can't find it, try alt-f2 and run kcontrol, i know its in there :)
[03:43] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, what network card (company, model, chipset, driver)?
[03:44] <darkrift411> is there a way to make ctrl+v and ctrl+c the universal copy and paste?
[03:44] <darkrift411> like in konsole?
[03:44] <e0f> hitmanWilly: mmm....i don't found display setting in kcontrol!!!!
[03:45] <darkrift411> i feel like the nerd who needs linux to be windows
[03:45] <darkrift411> but i do :)
[03:45] <darkrift411> i want linux to be a more stable windows :)
[03:45] <jriachi> e0f: what a you trying to do?
[03:45] <Dragnslcr> darkrift411- dunno about globally, but you can configure Konsole's shortcut keys
[03:45] <sweettooth> coreymon77, sorry how to tell?
[03:45] <hitmanWilly> e0f: ok, Peripherals --> Display
[03:45] <coreymon77> sweettooth: desktop or laptop
[03:46] <hitmanWilly> e0f: under kcontrol
[03:46] <sweettooth> it is an acer laptop travelmate 3000
[03:46] <coreymon77> darkrift411: the only time ive seen it not like that is in konsole
[03:46] <coreymon77> darkrift411: just live with it
[03:46] <e0f> hitmanWilly: in Peripherals there aren't Display on my kde :(( i dunno why!!!
[03:46] <jriachi> e0f: or try   displayconfig
[03:46] <coreymon77> okay
[03:46] <Dragnslcr> darkrift411- although, as Konsole just warned me, using Ctrl-C for copy might not be a good idea
[03:47] <coreymon77> darkrift411: cntrl+c is used for the cancel command function
[03:47] <s1imas1> !ATI
[03:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:47] <hitmanWilly> e0f: ok, it sounds like something in your system is borked...
[03:48] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, so i take it that its a pmcia wireless card right?
[03:48] <sweettooth> not really, its built-in
[03:49] <jriachi> with convert print.ps print.png , i get "print-0.png" and  "print-1.png";    each with a page of the .ps, how can i get just one (taller) image (i dont mind using another program)?
[03:49] <sweettooth> coreymon77, can you tell me how to find out the wireless card details please?
[03:49] <sweettooth> then i can precisely tell you which one it is :)
[03:49] <Arwen> man I need a new hard drive.... burning DVDs is such a pain in the ***
[03:49] <coreymon77> sweettooth: type lspmcia into konsole
[03:50] <darkrift411> in ktorrent, where do i find the torrent thats currently downloading?
[03:50] <darkrift411> its downloading at like 2k, but i know it can go faster
[03:50] <darkrift411> so imma delete it and reaload it
[03:50] <darkrift411> but cant find it
[03:51] <sweettooth> coreymon77, i take it as 'lspcmcia'm and the result is Socket 0 Bridge:        [yenta_cardbus]          (bus ID: 0000:06:07.0)
[03:51] <darkrift411> and yes, i am gonna suck you guys dry of info
[03:51] <darkrift411> i love this mother(censored) channel
[03:51] <coreymon77> sweettooth: give me the output next to ethernet controller in the lspmcia output
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> what version of ktorrent?
[03:52] <darkrift411> latest
[03:52] <darkrift411> whatever came with 7.04
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> latest from the repos?
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> 2.1
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> k
[03:52] <darkrift411> and all upgrades
[03:52] <darkrift411> im current on upgrades
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> still 2.1
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> :D
[03:52] <darkrift411> k
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> how do you find where it stores the actual .torrent files or where it stores the files you're downloading or where you can actually find the listing in the gui?
[03:53] <sweettooth> bash: lspmcia: command not found
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> you were kinda vague
[03:53] <sweettooth> coreymon77, am i missing sth in here?
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> lspcmcia
[03:53] <darkrift411> torrent
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[03:53] <darkrift411> i need to copy it so i can restart it completely
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> let me have a quick little looksee
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> um
[03:53] <darkrift411> dont know where firefox would have downloaded it
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> it will keep it there
[03:53] <coreymon77> sweettooth: put the output of lspmcia into pastebin and give me the link
[03:53] <darkrift411> and there is no "properties" in ktorrent
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> have you used utorrent before?
[03:54] <The_Un-Named> http://hoey.tzo.com:8082/ViewerFrame?Mode=Motion&Resolution=320x240&Quality=Motion&Interval=30&Size=STD&PresetOperation=Move&Language=0
[03:54] <darkrift411> yes
[03:54] <The_Un-Named> sorry, wrong channel
[03:54] <darkrift411> wish there was one for linux
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> then you know utorrent saves torrents between uses of the program
[03:54] <banksey> !xine
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <darkrift411> yes
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> it's there when you close it, still there when you reopen it
[03:54] <darkrift411> i want to backup the .torrent file
[03:54] <darkrift411> and delete torrent + data
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> ktorrent does the same thing
[03:54] <darkrift411> and restart ktorrent
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> AH.
[03:55] <Daisuke_Ido> okay
[03:55] <darkrift411> then reload the backup .torrent
[03:55] <Daisuke_Ido> odd, but doable
[03:55] <darkrift411> lol
[03:55] <sweettooth> coreymon77, pls have a look, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27543/
[03:55] <darkrift411> i have 4000 seeds, 2000 leechers and im getting .2k download speeds
[03:55] <darkrift411> so something is wrong
[03:56] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, how about this, tpye iwconfig
[03:56] <coreymon77> and give me the output
[03:56] <Daisuke_Ido> not necessarily
[03:56] <coreymon77> darkrift411: are you behind any sort of firewall?
[03:56] <darkrift411> for the first 20 seconds, i hit 350k
[03:56] <darkrift411> yes, but i have ports forwarded properly
[03:56] <darkrift411> and i get good speeds all the time
[03:57] <darkrift411> up to 1400k sometimes
[03:58] <Arwen> darkrift411, maybe you've been banned?
[03:58] <darkrift411> erm
[03:58] <Arwen> and they're "peers" not "leechers"
[03:58] <darkrift411> for what?
[03:58] <coreymon77> darkrift411: obviously just crappy seeds then
[03:58] <sweettooth> coreymon77, please have a look again, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27544/
[03:58] <Arwen> unless they're actually leeching of course
[03:58] <darkrift411> some torrent sites use the term leechers
[03:58] <darkrift411> so it stuck
[03:58] <darkrift411> lol
[03:58] <sweettooth> coreymon77, eth1 is wireless
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> ~/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent
[03:58] <coreymon77>  i know
[03:59] <darkrift411> kdesu konqueror ~/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent
[03:59] <darkrift411> erm
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> there are directories in there for your torrents.  finding the right one could be a pain.
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> uh
[03:59] <coreymon77> i take it the router is a linksys one, right?
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> why the hell do you need kdesu?
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry about the language
[03:59] <sweettooth> coreymon77, that's right
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> it's your home directory
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> you don't need to run it as su
[03:59] <darkrift411> i get tired of locked files
[03:59] <darkrift411> heh
[03:59] <modjo> has anyone here used a vnc client on kubuntu on a winxp vnc server?
[04:00] <coreymon77> sweettooth: can you give me the manufacturers website for your laptop, i may be able to find out more info from that
[04:00] <darkrift411> that location doesnt exist :s
[04:00] <darkrift411> oh
[04:00] <darkrift411> nvm
[04:01] <modjo> has anyone here used a vnc client on kubuntu on a winxp vnc server?, anyone?
[04:01] <dranas> i got a question, how do i add the universe repo my source list?
[04:01] <modjo> you must edit the repo list
[04:01] <modjo> in sudo mode
[04:02] <dranas> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multiverse
[04:02] <dranas> is that what i add?
[04:02] <intelikey> well. i have reloaded for the fourth time in two days trying to get the kinks jerked out of this tosheba !
[04:02] <darkrift411> i cant find any torrents in there
[04:02] <modjo> has anyone here used a vnc client on kubuntu on a winxp vnc server?, anyone?
[04:02] <darkrift411> ill just find it again
[04:03] <sweettooth> coreymon77, http://global.acer.com/products/notebook/tm3000.htm
[04:04] <coreymon77> i see
[04:04] <coreymon77> its an intel card
[04:04] <intelikey> needless to say, i'm not fit to talk to today.
[04:04] <dranas> i just dont know what to add to get the universe repo
[04:05] <modjo> has anyone here used a vnc client on kubuntu on a winxp vnc server?, anyone?
[04:05] <intelikey> dranas you add "universe"
[04:05] <TeraDyne> intelikey: I don't blame you.
[04:05] <dranas> i mean the whole line
[04:05] <dranas> this is what i got so far
[04:05] <dranas> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multiverse
[04:05] <coreymon77> sweettooth: you jsut want your network to auto connect on boot right?
[04:06] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: is that the one that had vista on it?
[04:06] <dranas> do i delete the word multiverse?
[04:06] <intelikey> dranas you don't need to add a line.  jsut a word
[04:06] <TeraDyne> intelikey: I had to reinstall kubuntu 6 times when I first tried dapper, trying to get my wireless card to work
[04:06] <dranas> well it has universe and multiverse, do i delete the word multiverse?
[04:06] <sweettooth> coreymon77, i usually use wireless at work with a different network, however, if so, what shall i do?
[04:06] <coreymon77> oh
[04:06] <coreymon77> well then
[04:06] <intelikey> dranas example:    deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted    <<< that to this >>>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[04:07] <sweettooth> coreymon77, besides i want to know why it didn't detect the wireless network at times
[04:07] <dranas> so deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multiverse  is corect then?
[04:07] <sweettooth> i have to restart and pray sometimes :(
[04:07] <coreymon77> sweettooth: personally, i dont use knetworkmanager, i just use kwifimanager
[04:07] <intelikey> dranas that added both universe and multiverse  to the repos for a dapper system
[04:07] <michael_m> can someone help me with a slow boot problem???
[04:07] <dranas> hmmm
[04:07] <coreymon77> sweettooth: wouldnt a simple iwconfig command work?
[04:07] <intelikey> dranas in answer to your Q yes
[04:08] <sweettooth> coreymon77, if i load both on, would they crash?
[04:08] <sweettooth> that's the thing, even i typed iwlist eth1 scanning, it doesn't seem to scan any network at all
[04:09] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay then, and does running the iwconfig command to connect not work?
[04:09] <sweettooth> coreymon77, im not too sure, cos i have never tried it, i will give it a go next time, heh
[04:09] <sweettooth> so what do you think is the problem?
[04:10] <coreymon77> sweettooth: it may actually be your network card thats doing it
[04:10] <TeraDyne> Does anyone know of a good desktop blogging app that works with the new Blogger?
[04:10] <coreymon77> sweettooth: but there is something that may help
[04:10] <sweettooth> coreymon77, any guidance would be grateful
[04:12] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, open system settings and then into network settings
[04:13] <sweettooth> coreymon77, yup
[04:13] <Arwen> TeraDyne, uh, kate
[04:13] <coreymon77> sweettooth: click on administrator mode and enter your password
[04:13] <intelikey> !paste > dranas
[04:13] <michael_m> can someone please help me with a slow boot
[04:13] <michael_m> ?
[04:14] <sweettooth> coreymon77, done
[04:14] <TeraDyne> Arwen: ? Could you infrom me as to how I can post to my blog from kate?
[04:14] <Arwen> yes, write your story..... upload it... voila
[04:14] <Arwen> (doing)
[04:15] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, so, what appears in the list in the network settings window
[04:15] <intelikey> michael_m take out the networking and see if that was the reason for the delay.   ?    sudo update-rc.d network remove    you can put it back the same way
[04:16] <coreymon77> sweettooth: oh, btw, do you know the essid (network name), wep key (network password if you have one), default gateway (the routers ip address), and dns server of both of the networks you connect to (your home and your office)?
[04:16] <TeraDyne> No, I mean something like BloGTK, where I don't need a browser. Konqueror tends to randomly crash while writing my entries for some reason.
[04:17] <TeraDyne> And I don't want to install SeaMonkey just to write in my blog.
[04:17] <Arwen> so install firefox?
[04:17] <sweettooth> i know the one from home
[04:17] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay
[04:17] <sweettooth> i guess i can find out other info when im back at office tomorrow
[04:17] <coreymon77> sweettooth: well then i will only be able to do this for your home network
[04:17] <TeraDyne> Arwen: Firefox.... *shudders* No thanks. That hog won't be finding itself on my laptop anytime soon.
[04:18] <sweettooth> coreymon77, that's cool
[04:18] <Arwen> firefox... hog... how?
[04:18] <Arwen> for one, foxes eat hogs
[04:18] <sweettooth> coreymon77, i have network connections, proxy, connection preferences, and zeroconf service discovery on the left side
[04:18] <s1imas1> what is kubuntu system requoest ?
[04:19] <coreymon77> sweettooth: i meant the interfaces list in Network Connections
[04:19] <TeraDyne> Arwen: anytime I run FF, anything after 1.0.4 anyway, on my laptop, it immediately starts using up a ton of memory, so much so that it starts to use swap..
[04:19] <coreymon77> sweettooth: there is only one device in that list right?
[04:19] <sweettooth> coreymon77, i have eth0 and eth1
[04:20] <Arwen> ...funny, I must have a magic firefox then. It always stays stable at 10% RAM usage...
[04:20] <coreymon77> Arwen: me too
[04:20] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, is your work connection wireless aswell?
[04:20] <Arwen> coreymon77, we're magic! lol
[04:20] <coreymon77> sweettooth: do they both use eth1
[04:20] <sweettooth> coreymon77, the wireless at work is using eth1
[04:20] <TeraDyne> Arwen: I've had it hit 30% several times, and stay there. It might be because I have about 20 tabs open at any one time.
[04:20] <coreymon77> sweettooth: aoky
[04:21] <Arwen> hint: if your RAM isn't being used, it's wasting your money
[04:21] <Arwen> just a thought
[04:21] <sweettooth> firefox is slow in xp in my case
[04:21] <sweettooth> lol
[04:21] <shdq> :D
[04:21] <Arwen> lol, cmon, no need to troll, even on a Linux channel
[04:22] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, so click on eth1. and click configure
[04:22] <sweettooth> to be fair, i have only just swapped to kubuntu, and it does rock :)
[04:22] <TeraDyne> Arwen: Here's the thing. Firefox uses 20% of memory easy, while seamonkey uses 10% at most.
[04:22] <Arwen> here's the thing: if your memory isn't being used, it's being wasted
[04:22] <Arwen> just a thought
[04:22] <TeraDyne> Arwen: Then again, I always compile my own copy of seamonkey, anyway.
[04:22] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37745
[04:22] <TeraDyne> Arwen: That's the problem. It uses too much.
[04:22] <sweettooth> coreymon77, yup, do i just put the essid and the key?
[04:23] <Arwen> anyway, we could go on and on about FF...
[04:23] <TeraDyne> Arwen: true.
[04:23] <Arwen> you can reduce the memory usage in config if you want... it's just cache for fast rendering
[04:23] <coreymon77> sweettooth: well, do you have a static ip?
[04:23] <sweettooth> no, the router dynamically assign an internal ip for my laptop
[04:23] <sweettooth> coreymon77, but for the internet connection, yes
[04:24] <coreymon77> sweettooth: i mean for the network,
[04:24] <coreymon77> sweettooth: is it static or assigned by DNS
[04:24] <TeraDyne> Arwen: I tried that. I couldn't get it to go below 17% even with it set so that it wouldn't cache.
[04:25] <sweettooth> it is assigned by DNS
[04:25] <TeraDyne> Arwen: Meh, I think I'll just compile seamonkey.
[04:25] <sweettooth> coreymon77, it is assigned by DNS
[04:25] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, so just put in your essid and wep key
[04:26] <sweettooth> coreymon77, done ;)
[04:26] <coreymon77> sweettooth: now go to routes and put in the default gateway
[04:27] <intelikey> !ati > dranas
[04:27] <sweettooth> coreymon77, also done
[04:27] <s1imas1> what is kubuntu system requoest ?
[04:28] <coreymon77> sweettooth: now go to the dns tab and put in your dns('s)
[04:28] <sweettooth> coreymon77, i think mine is already there
[04:28] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay
[04:28] <coreymon77> sweettooth: good
[04:28] <coreymon77> sweettooth: now go to network profiles
[04:28] <coreymon77> sweettooth: are there any there?
[04:29] <sweettooth> coreymon77, no, its blank, should i create a new and save it?
[04:29] <coreymon77> sweettooth: create one called "home" and save it
[04:30] <sweettooth> coreymon77, done
[04:30] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay, now press apply
[04:30] <sweettooth> yup
[04:30] <sweettooth> coreymon77, that's it?
[04:31] <crazy_bus> I've got a mp4 I downloaded off google video.  It plays in kaffeine but I cant change the timer position and can only watch it from the start to the end.  Is there any way to fix this?
[04:31] <coreymon77> sweettooth: good, now, whenyou get to work, do the same thing we just did, but replace the info from your home network with the info for your work network
[04:31] <Arwen> crazy_bus, yes, get a player with better support for MPEG-4 Part 14 (mp4)
[04:31] <Arwen> like maybe mplayer
[04:31] <coreymon77> sweettooth: then save that as the "work" or "office" profile
[04:31] <coreymon77> and whenever you change places
[04:31] <coreymon77> just go and choose the right profile and click apply
[04:32] <coreymon77> sweettooth: okay?
[04:32] <sweettooth> coreymon77, ic, that's brilliant m8, thx for your patience and help :)
[04:32] <coreymon77> sweettooth: also, if that doesnt work
[04:32] <sweettooth> yea?
[04:32] <coreymon77> sweettooth: run the iwconfig command
[04:32] <sweettooth> yup, will do
[04:32] <sweettooth> thx a lot again
[04:32] <coreymon77> sweettooth: that being sudo iwconfig eth1 essid [your essid]  key [your wep key] 
[04:32] <crazy_bus> all other mp4's play properly in kaffeine?  Its only the one I downloaded directly from google video that has problems
[04:33] <Tenerifedave> hello all, i am currently using vnc to my computer from another on the network but it is very slow and file transfer goes up to a max of say 900kbps is this normal?
[04:33] <sweettooth> coreymon77, okie dokie, i will have a go with it nxt time :)
[04:33] <coreymon77> sweettooth: no problem, its what im here for, anything goes wrong just give me a shout
[04:34] <Tenerifedave> i'm using wireless by the way if it makes any difference
[04:34] <coreymon77> sweettooth: see if the profile thing works first though
[04:34] <DaSkreech> sweettooth: I am Calypso Muwahahahaha
[04:34] <Arwen> crazy_bus, then maybe it's a nonstandard implementation of MP4?
[04:34] <Arwen> anyway, try another player
[04:34] <sweettooth> coreymon77, will do, i will restart and test it, thx
[04:34] <Arwen> if it's not seekable, you can always extract the audio/video and make a fresh mp4
[04:34] <sweettooth> hi DaSkreech
[04:35] <Tenerifedave> what sort of transfer rates does everyone get on wireless?
[04:35] <Arwen> about 5MB/s...
[04:35] <Arwen> (max)
[04:36] <coreymon77> Tenerifedave: are both of the computers on the same network?
[04:36] <Tenerifedave> yeah
[04:36] <coreymon77> Tenerifedave: then waht are you using vnc for, just connect to the computer directly
[04:36] <coreymon77> Tenerifedave: over the LAN
[04:36] <Tenerifedave> i use wireless in my house
[04:37] <Tenerifedave> for networking
[04:37] <Tenerifedave> its just i am only getting say 900kbps max transfer
[04:38] <Arwen> could just be weak wifi
[04:38] <Arwen> or if you're talking smb, low speeds are normal
[04:38] <Tenerifedave> its ftp
[04:38] <Tenerifedave> but maybe the wireless
[04:38] <Tenerifedave> it is a couple of years old now
[04:38] <Arwen> hmm, yeah, what wifi protocol version?
[04:39] <Tenerifedave> ermm what ones are there?
[04:39] <Tenerifedave> sorry im a noob lol
[04:39] <Arwen> dunno myself, lol
[04:39] <Arwen> just that one of em ends in "a", another in "b", another in "g", and another in "n"
[04:39] <Tenerifedave> ahh
[04:39] <Tenerifedave> well its b/g
[04:40] <Arwen> ah, how far are you from the source? and do you have protected mode on in the router?
[04:40] <Tenerifedave> well i have a arial coming down and its hanging across the room
[04:41] <Tenerifedave> every computer is excellent put it that way
[04:41] <drgonzo> hey fellas, Is there anyway to setup kmail to group messages by day/week/month like outlook?
[04:41] <Arwen> Tenerifedave, hmm, well, maybe it's just phony wifi? does performance increase if you switch to Ethernet?
[04:41] <Tenerifedave> and protected mode: its not a router, just a hub
[04:41] <Tenerifedave> havent tried just ethernet
[04:41] <Tenerifedave> maybe a crap wifi
[04:42] <Tenerifedave> need to get a new one me thinks
[04:42] <Tenerifedave> it also cuts off sometimes
[04:42] <DaSkreech> TeraDyne: install Netscape
[04:42] <Tenerifedave> need to reset it
[04:42] <DaSkreech> easy to install easy to blow away
[04:42] <hasan> is there anybody who use kmldonkey?
[04:42] <hasan> or any other client?
[04:42] <drgonzo> i use it
[04:43] <hasan> how can  add servers?
[04:43] <hasan> there are only 3 servers available
[04:43] <drgonzo> i add it via the gui
[04:43] <hasan> do i have to enter every server name manually one by one?
[04:43] <hasan> one by one?
[04:43] <drgonzo> no you can provide a file
[04:43] <hasan> how can i do that?
[04:43] <drgonzo> umm may i suggest #kmldonkey
[04:44] <hasan> from a .met file?
[04:44] <hasan> ja sur
[04:44] <Arwen> BluesKaj, you should confiscate laptops and PCs on sight!
[04:44] <Arwen> :-P
[04:45] <cWolfe> seriously, am I the only person with fiesty that can't burn a file bigger than 4GB on a dl dvd?
[04:45] <Arwen> cWolfe, dunno, did you change the fs mode to "UDF - Large Files"?
[04:45] <cWolfe> yes
[04:45] <Arwen> meh, dunno then. Try splitting the file?
[04:46] <BluesKaj> Arwen, I'm a grandfather, my kids are grown with their own kids to worry about... so i don't :)
[04:46] <DaSkreech> s1imas1: What?
[04:46] <cWolfe> :( i was hoping i wouldnt have to
[04:46] <Arwen> BluesKaj, not what I meant, lol
[04:46] <Arwen> if you confiscated em, you could build a massive Beowulf cluster!
[04:47] <BluesKaj> ok , what did you mean Arwen ? ... it went over my head :)
[04:47] <Arwen> never mind, it's over mine too
[04:47] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: I so read that as bathrooms :)
[04:48] <Schuenemann> brazil 0x2 mxico *sigh*
[04:48] <BluesKaj> beowulf...oh yeah
[04:50] <BluesKaj> neighbours have wifi , constantly complaining about probs ...so i decided to hardwire altho i do have wireless options
[04:50] <Arwen> BluesKaj, you were stealing their wifi? lol
[04:51] <BluesKaj> you know Arwen , i prolly could :)
[04:51] <BluesKaj> windows surfers
[04:53] <DaSkreech> heehee
[04:54] <DaSkreech> I love how using windows automatically makes you inept and using apple automatically makes you elitist
[04:54] <n8k99> -but you can get them in pink!!
[04:54] <Arwen> hehe
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> Arwen: it's called an airbrush :P
[04:54] <Arwen> hehe
[04:57] <drgonzo> does anyone know what I mean. Maybe i should elabourate. In outlook you it it group messages by day/week/year/ etc so can that can be expanded and closed on convienence Can this be done with kmail?
[04:57] <drgonzo> elaborate*
[04:58] <BluesKaj> drgonzo, why don't you look at the kmail manual..it's quite extensive ..lots of options
[04:58] <drgonzo> ok
[04:58] <dwidmann> drgonzo: I don't see a way to do it exactly that way, but I know a way you can filter it th at way
[04:59] <dwidmann> in the filter box near the top, type in something like "today" if you want to see todays messages, or yesterday for yesterdays, otherwise use the date as it appears in the date column
[05:00] <dwidmann> oh, wait, you can also use days of the same week, ie: sunday, monday, etc
[05:01] <drgonzo> filter box?
[05:02] <dwidmann> should be right next to the word search
[05:02] <drgonzo> oh search
[05:02] <BluesKaj> sacktime for me...nite all , take care.
[05:03] <dwidmann> it's looking to be about time for me to go to bed too :(
[05:03] <drgonzo> cheers
[05:04] <dwidmann> later folks
[05:16] <devnull> !wine
[05:16] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:18] <hiyah> !ftp
[05:18] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[05:18] <hiyah> hi i need to setup a ftp server, which package shd i use?
[05:18] <DaSkreech> !kasablanca
[05:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kasablanca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <DaSkreech> Lying bot
[05:19] <TeraDyne> !FTPd
[05:19] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[05:19] <hiyah> which one are typically used?
[05:20] <hiyah> proftpd?
[05:22] <mneptok> hiyah: why an FTP server?
[05:22] <mneptok> hiyah: do you need to give access to anonymous users?
[05:22] <TeraDyne> !info proftpd | hiyah
[05:22] <ubotu> hiyah: proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-21ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 765 kB, installed size 2276 kB
[05:23] <hiyah> no i don't want anonymous to come in.. specific users
[05:23] <hiyah> just installed proftpd
[05:23] <TeraDyne> Have the filezilla guys ported their ftp server over to linux yet?
[05:24] <mneptok> i hope not
[05:24] <mneptok> hiyah: do you need to give access to anonymous users?
[05:24] <TeraDyne> mneptok: why not?
[05:24] <hiyah> mneptok: no..
[05:24] <mneptok> hiyah: then do not use FTP
[05:24] <mneptok> SFTP/SCP is what you want
[05:25] <mneptok> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:25] <mneptok> then use any SFTP client (like Filezilla) to login
[05:25] <TeraDyne> what about vsftpd?
[05:25] <TeraDyne> !info vsftpd
[05:25] <ubotu> vsftpd: The Very Secure FTP Daemon. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.5-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 111 kB, installed size 408 kB
[05:25] <mneptok> it's still FTP
[05:25] <secleinteer> hi, does anyone know how to readd items removed from the kmenu?
[05:26] <mneptok> if you don't need anonymous access you should not use FTP
[05:26] <hiyah> mneptok: i need to let windows ftp clients to come in.. can openssh do that?
[05:26] <mneptok> hiyah: Filezilla
[05:26] <Carnage\> secleinteer: What items in particular?
[05:26] <hiyah> ok... i've already got openssh
[05:26] <mneptok> hiyah: http://filezilla.sf.net
[05:26] <Carnage\> Just links to programs?
[05:26] <TeraDyne> mneptok:  good point. I keep forgetting that tip.
[05:26] <evsophomore2009> Can anyone help me out with Limewire?
[05:27] <secleinteer> Carnage\: kmail
[05:27] <TeraDyne> !ask | evsophomore2009
[05:27] <ubotu> evsophomore2009: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:27] <hiyah> mneptok: ok thanks :>
[05:27] <Daisuke_Ido> anyone familiar with linux usenet software?
[05:27] <Carnage\> secleinteer: Rightclick on a menu entry and select "Edit Menu..."?
[05:27] <evsophomore2009> TeraDyne: Are you familiar with LimeWire?
[05:27] <mneptok> hiyah: np. encrypted traffic is *always* better for you, the admin, than cleartext ;)
[05:28] <Arwen> lol @ LimeWarez
[05:28] <mneptok> Daisuke_Ido: i use Pan. i believe the KDE PIM suite has a Usenet client
[05:28] <TeraDyne> evsophomore2009: just ask what you're having problems with. someone is bound to know how to help, or where to go to get help.
[05:29] <secleinteer> Carnage\: to restore an item, not to create a new one
[05:29] <hiyah> mneptok: all the while my users are using linux to ssh and rsync in.. didn't know that filezilla can do transfer via windows
[05:29] <evsophomore2009> Okay, on LimeWire when i play a few songs, at the end of the song, it maks an error noise and i cant play music untill i re-start LimeWire...anyone know how to fix it?
[05:29] <mneptok> hiyah: yup. Filezilla is an SFTP client in addition to FTP
[05:30] <Arwen> evsophomore2009, use a real media player
[05:30] <Carnage\> secleinteer: If it's deleted, it's deleted, I think :)
[05:31] <evsophomore2009> Arwen: well i need to use Limewire so i can download songs....duh
[05:31] <Arwen> warez is bad...
[05:31] <evsophomore2009> Warez.....
[05:31] <hiyah> mneptok: yeah as long as it will work on windows.. does it support resuming?
[05:32] <mneptok> hiyah: no idea. i use Linux. :)
[05:32] <secleinteer> Carnage\: it's not deleted, because the *.desktop files aren't stored on the separate user accounts, they're in /usr/share/applications, and certain *.desktop files are "excluded" when you "delete" them through the GUI
[05:32] <evsophomore2009> Anyone good with Wine and iTunes?
[05:32] <Arwen> wine + itunes = no
[05:32] <Arwen> you can run up to version 4, but after that, just give up
[05:32] <evsophomore2009> why is it a No?
[05:32] <hiyah> mneptok: SFTP means openssh-server compatible?
[05:32] <Arwen> ^^
[05:32] <Tm_T> Amarok <3
[05:33] <TeraDyne> Tm_T: amen.
[05:33] <intelikey> vlc
[05:33] <mneptok> hiyah: SFTP = secure FTP = OpenSSH
[05:33] <evsophomore2009> Version 4
[05:33] <evsophomore2009> ?
[05:33] <Arwen> lol @ vlc, it doesn't even play subtitles and matroska right
[05:33] <Arwen> evsophomore2009, yes, v4
[05:34] <intelikey> Arwen it doesn't even need non-free help... :)
[05:34] <Arwen> mplayer > vlc
[05:34] <Arwen> :-)
[05:34] <hiyah> mneptok: ic..ok i'll try filezilla brb
[05:34] <Arwen> but anyway, that's not the point
[05:35] <evsophomore2009> Version 4 works?
[05:35] <intelikey> i just need to argue with something besides this tosheba for a while.
[05:35] <mneptok> evsophomore2009: Limewire is a P2P app. stop sending it to do a media player's job. ;)
[05:35] <evsophomore2009> mneptok: well it has a media player for a reason
[05:35] <Arwen> evsophomore2009, more or less
[05:35] <DaSkreech> WMP > *
[05:36] <mneptok> evsophomore2009: oh? what's the reason?
[05:36] <Arwen> evsophomore2009, and yeah, the reason it has a media player is so that it can be even more bloaty
[05:36] <Carnage\> secleinteer: Oh, then you could create a new entry and copy the content from the "deleted" *.desktop to the new one
[05:36] <intelikey> mozilla ?
[05:36] <intelikey> :)
[05:37] <TeraDyne> intelikey: what about mozilla?
[05:37] <secleinteer> Carnage\: but i don't know where to place this file
[05:37] <intelikey> "even more bloaty"
[05:37] <evsophomore2009> mneptok: to listen to the audio.
[05:37] <mneptok> secleinteer: what app are you trying to unhide?
[05:38] <secleinteer> mneptok: kmail
[05:38] <evsophomore2009> Arwen: Bloaty?
[05:38] <Arwen> yes, bloaty bloaty bloat
[05:38] <mneptok> secleinteer: that's not in the menus. Kontact is.
[05:38] <TeraDyne> intelikey: Which app are you talking about? If you mean how Firefox has become bloated, I'll agree there.
[05:38] <dr_willis> 'bloaty' a vague term thats always used as a insult to software when you cant come up with any other valid arguments.
[05:38] <secleinteer> mneptok: then why is there a KMail.desktop file under /usr/share/applications ?
[05:38] <dr_willis> one mans bloat - is anothers must have eye candy.
[05:39] <mneptok> evsophomore2009: so if i add a 38 metric ton telescope to a car so "that you can see the sky better through the sunroof" you'd embrace it as a good idea and buy one?
[05:39] <evsophomore2009> ew no
[05:39] <mneptok> secleinteer: it's in a hidden state by default. edit that .desktop app stub with a text editor to unhide it.
[05:39] <dr_willis> 'arguments through absurdity' dosent really prove much.
[05:40] <intelikey> apt-get install mozilla     79m dl     apt-get install dillo 600k dl        what is bloat anyway ?
[05:40] <mneptok> dr_willis: "reductio ad absurdum" is the term you want ;)
[05:40] <dr_willis> mneptok,  hes going the other way
[05:40] <TeraDyne> intelikey: the mozilla package is 79m?
[05:40] <secleinteer> mneptok: what do i need to remove from the config file?
[05:40] <Arwen> mozilla is 79M? wtf?
[05:41] <mneptok> secleinteer: NoDisplay=true
[05:41] <secleinteer> mneptok: ok, will try that
[05:41] <dr_willis> ive seen worse. :)
[05:41] <intelikey> TeraDyne plus it's deps for this system  "package size is 11.8MB"
[05:42] <dr_willis> printer drivers for my printer/scanner under windows - was over 125mb compressed.
[05:42] <DaSkreech> Arwen: Why are you acting surprised Netscape was as big as some distros
[05:42] <Arwen> hmm
[05:42] <TeraDyne> intelikey: ah, that explains it.
[05:43] <intelikey> TeraDyne that's package size it expands to  36.4MB unpacked
[05:43] <Tenerifedave> anyone know about an error when trying to use sudo, says "sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory" :-/
[05:43] <carutsu> Arwen: it's the hole suite, browser, mail, calendar, ...
[05:43] <Arwen> ah
[05:43] <mneptok> *whole
[05:43] <carutsu> whole?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> Tenerifedave: What command?
[05:43] <Tenerifedave> sudo apt-get
[05:44] <carutsu> mneptok: oops i didn't know, thank you :P
[05:44] <Tenerifedave> or sudo apt-cache
[05:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> I just want to state that the second life linux ver. runs great..   but the game still absolutely sucks..  I must be missing something
[05:44] <Tenerifedave> or anything i think
[05:44] <dr_willis> Guilty_as_Sin,  no.. the game sucks... :0
[05:44] <dr_willis> Guilty_as_Sin,  its just a time sink.. plain and simple..
[05:44] <dr_willis> Guilty_as_Sin,  sort of like... err... IRC! :)
[05:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> ok, thanks for the input..   I have to admit..  got a lil curious
[05:45] <Tenerifedave> DaSkreech: "
[05:45] <Tenerifedave> dave is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[05:45] <Tenerifedave> dave@computer:~$ sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
[05:45] <Tenerifedave> sorry for the flood
[05:45] <TeraDyne> dr_willis: agreed, except the IRC part. At least I learn stuff on IRC.
[05:45] <TeraDyne> Tenerifedave: if that was a flood, then I've seen worse from people typing things in by hand.
[05:46] <Tenerifedave> lol
[05:46] <intelikey> !info mozilla-browser
[05:46] <ubotu> Package mozilla-browser does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:46] <intelikey> !info mozilla-browser dapper
[05:46] <intelikey> !info dillo dapper
[05:46] <ubotu> mozilla-browser: The Mozilla Internet application suite - core and browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.12-1.1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 9658 kB, installed size 29448 kB
[05:46] <ubotu> dillo: Small and fast web browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.5-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 339 kB, installed size 928 kB
[05:46] <Guilty_as_Sin> speaking of FF..  mine needs some tweaking..
[05:46] <DaSkreech> Tenerifedave: Maybe you should be in the sudoers file :)
[05:46] <Tenerifedave> i think so too, where is it?
[05:47] <Tenerifedave> i was in it though thats the thing :-/
[05:47] <dr_willis> in /etc with all the other system config files... :)
[05:47] <Tenerifedave> ok thanks i'll check it out
[05:47] <dr_willis> first user made during install is included.
[05:47] <intelikey> "29448 kB"   not right.  "30.2MB"  i just checked.  that's the patched one i guess.   takes a little more space.
[05:47] <DaSkreech> Guilty_as_Sin: it's a social experiment. If you are into it great if not in 86 years when we are all forced to move our concious minds into a virtual domain run on TCPM then you can stage a protest
[05:48] <Guilty_as_Sin> say wha'
[05:48] <Guilty_as_Sin> no protest, just got ma' feet wet is all
[05:48] <Guilty_as_Sin> not my gig
[05:48] <Guilty_as_Sin> I do think it's a great project..  just needs some fine tuning
[05:49] <Tenerifedave> what shall I put into the sudoers file? I dont want to muck it up and give me root all the time kinda thing
[05:49] <dr_willis> man sudoers :)
[05:49] <Tenerifedave> good idea
[05:49] <Minataku> Heya, dr_willis
[05:50] <Guilty_as_Sin> if I could have got off that lil four island deal they have there for cheapo's like myself..  it might have been fun
[05:50] <Minataku> Guests still there?
[05:50] <dr_willis> Minataku,  yep.
[05:50] <Guilty_as_Sin> <--cheap by nature... not by heart
[05:50] <Minataku> dr_willis: That sucks
[05:50] <dr_willis> got a 5 yr old tagging along my very move... wanting to feed my 'ish'
[05:50] <Minataku> o.O
[05:51] <dr_willis> hes cute. :) but gets annoying after the first hour
[05:51] <Minataku> Heh
[05:51] <Guilty_as_Sin> that's kinda mean
[05:51] <Guilty_as_Sin> but totally understand
[05:52] <Guilty_as_Sin> I have two in diapers
[05:52] <Minataku> dr_willis: I'll wait until after they've all left to bother you about the Amigas again
[05:52] <Guilty_as_Sin> anyways..  I'm OT  sorry
[05:52] <Minataku> Not counting this instance, of course
[05:52] <Minataku> >.>
[05:53] <dr_willis> Minataku,  i got a Pool table... you want it... ? :)
[05:53] <Minataku> Haha
[05:53] <Guilty_as_Sin> yeah!@
[05:53] <Minataku> That would cost WAY too much to ship X3
[05:53] <dr_willis> weighs like 300lb.
[05:53] <Guilty_as_Sin> I'll take her
[05:53] <Minataku> Let Guilty_as_Sin have it
[05:53] <Minataku> I want those Amigas :3
[05:53] <Guilty_as_Sin> slate is heavy stuff
[05:53] <emonkey-f> lb is that pounds?
[05:53] <Minataku> No, it's "libraries"
[05:53] <Guilty_as_Sin> yes
[05:54] <Guilty_as_Sin> oic
[05:54] <Minataku> It weights 300 libraries
[05:54] <Minataku> j/k
[05:54] <Guilty_as_Sin> lmao
[05:54] <Arwen> hah
[05:54] <Minataku> Yeah, lbs is pounds
[05:54] <emonkey-f> 
[05:54] <Minataku> Blame Latin
[05:54] <emonkey-f> I see GB is here
[05:54] <emonkey-f> I'll come to GB in 3 weeks
[05:55] <Guilty_as_Sin> <buys a round for the house>  (because virtual dollars spend so much easier)
[05:56] <Minataku> But yeah, dr_willis, take your time on those Amigas, I don't want to stress you more than you no doubt already are XD
[05:58] <DaSkreech> Guilty_as_Sin: More things that Second life is good at :)
[06:02] <Guilty_as_Sin> DaSkreech What's that?
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Virtual Dollars spending easy
[06:02] <Guilty_as_Sin> oic
[06:03] <devnull> !wine
[06:03] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:03] <Minataku> I just emerged 0.9.39 :D
[06:03] <Guilty_as_Sin> wine is great till you get an EA game (in my experiences alone)
[06:03] <devnull> hehe
[06:03] <devnull> yeah i've used it before
[06:03] <devnull> Got a home design program for my fiance
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Guilty_as_Sin: Yeah if Dumb EA would just make NFS and sims work on Linux I could get like 40 peopel to jump ship
[06:04] <devnull> And don't feel like booting into winblows
[06:04] <DaSkreech> devnull: Really?
[06:04] <DaSkreech> devnull: Oh I thought You meant one for Linux :-(
[06:04] <roho> what's the name of the emulator that does everything? something mess
[06:04] <Guilty_as_Sin> my stepdaughter has a sims problem..  do they have a 12 step for that yet?
[06:04] <devnull> DaSkreech, I wish man
[06:04] <DaSkreech> There are a whole set of things that should just exist for Linux that don't :(
[06:04] <devnull> =(
[06:05] <Guilty_as_Sin> I went with the *reclaim the other half your hard drive plan myself
[06:05] <Guilty_as_Sin> fuke windoze
[06:06] <devnull> Well I have 2 drives
[06:06] <devnull> 80GB linux, 40GB winblows
[06:06] <Guilty_as_Sin> still have it on the wifey's lappy..  but her orbicam don't work..   and her ati graphic card is a total p.i.t.a.
[06:06] <Guilty_as_Sin> herherm..  <acer>
[06:07] <Minataku> Heh
[06:07] <Minataku> I'm still seeing nVidia be the choice
[06:07] <devnull> I told my fiance
[06:07] <Guilty_as_Sin> yeah.. that is what I have on here
[06:07] <Minataku> They WANT to make their drivers open, from what I've heard
[06:08] <devnull> We will not be using windows in our household. You will get used to, learn to like, and use linux. Plain and simple.
[06:08] <Guilty_as_Sin> jus' an ole' fx5500 but she's still hittin'
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Minataku: Good luck with that :)
[06:08] <Minataku> But they contracted out and such and are kinda stuck under NDAs
[06:08] <Minataku> devnull: Nice to hear
[06:08] <DaSkreech> devnull: You sound like Ian :)
[06:08] <Minataku> Get a console for gaming
[06:08] <DaSkreech> PS3 !!
[06:08] <emonkey-f> I hope that the new Intel cards will be much better than the Ati an Nvidia...
[06:08] <devnull> hehe
[06:08] <DaSkreech> You can install Linux on it :)
[06:08] <Minataku> ...
[06:08] <Minataku> The PS3 is a complete failure
[06:08] <DaSkreech> emonkey-f: They will make a heck of a lot more money
[06:08] <Maxdamantus> Minataku, no it's not.
[06:09] <Maxdamantus> Only for gaming,.
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Minataku: :-P You can install Linux on it :)
[06:09] <devnull> I love linux. I love the power behind it, and I love the scalability.
[06:09] <Maxdamantus> People buy them in bulks for servers and stuff. :d
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Maxdamantus: I heard the Govt bought a bunch to cluster
[06:09] <DaSkreech> IBM must be pissed
[06:09] <Maxdamantus> Lol.
[06:09] <darvi_> ummmmmmm
[06:09] <DaSkreech> intelikey: It's Toaster
[06:09] <DaSkreech> WITH XML!
[06:10] <Maxdamantus> I've booted Linux on my PSP. :d
[06:10] <Maxdamantus> No X though.
[06:10] <Minataku> Yeah, because installing Linux on proprietary hardware is a good idea </sarcasm>
[06:10] <Maxdamantus> And didn't have a keyboard I could attatch to it.
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Minataku: Bring on the open source hardware and We will be loving it
[06:10] <evsophomore2009> i need to uninstall Quicktime, i tried "Sudo apt-get remove Quicktime" and it didnt work, i also tried "Add & Remove Programs"
[06:10] <evsophomore2009> Any Help?"
[06:11] <devnull> Minataku, But people buy this stuff. It is their choice what they do with it.
[06:11] <DaSkreech> !codecs | evsophomore2009
[06:11] <Maxdamantus> evsophomore2009, try "quicktime"
[06:11] <DaSkreech> devnull: Not if you ask the guys holding the money when they walk out
[06:11] <Maxdamantus> All packages in Ubuntu are lower case.
[06:11] <Maxdamantus> And case sensitive.
[06:11] <intelikey> i kinda want to build a linux OBD* reader
[06:11] <DaSkreech> OBD ?
[06:11] <intelikey> automotive obd#
[06:11] <evsophomore2009> E: Couldn't find package quicktime
[06:11] <DaSkreech> ubotu: Wake up!
[06:11] <Maxdamantus> Alternatively, in a terminal, try typing "quicktime", then pressing tab twice, incase it's suffixed by some version numbers.
[06:11] <Guilty_as_Sin> don't think I've yet to bother w/ quicktime on this particular install
[06:12] <Maxdamantus> "quicktime" is an apt package.
[06:12] <Maxdamantus> evsophomore2009, did you install it using apt?
[06:12] <Guilty_as_Sin> need to since my vlc install has yet to handle quicktime
[06:12] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:12] <rockets> Anybody know a good OSX theme
[06:12] <rockets> NOT baghira
[06:13] <byonix> hi, do anyone have difficulty joining undernet.org?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Maxdamantus: It is?
[06:13] <evsophomore2009> no i installed quicktime during the install of iTunes with Wine, but that didnt work\
[06:13] <intelikey> !botsnooze ?
[06:13] <devnull> you could always do: sudo apt-get remove quicktime quicktime-*
[06:13] <Guilty_as_Sin> itunes is poop
[06:13] <Maxdamantus> DaSkreech, apparently, yes.
[06:13] <devnull> that should probably cover about everything.
[06:13] <evsophomore2009> well i like iTunes
[06:13] <Maxdamantus> Wait, no it's not.
[06:13] <rockets> itunes is great
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Sorry
[06:13] <evsophomore2009> cute
[06:13] <DaSkreech> knee jerk reaction :)
[06:13] <Maxdamantus> quicktime4linux-utils quicktime-utils quicktime-x11utils
[06:14] <Maxdamantus> Netsplit Xd
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Ubotu :)
[06:14] <evsophomore2009> im kinda sick of every sigle person that uses Linux always gives me crap about iTunes
[06:14] <DaSkreech> that would explain that
[06:14] <evsophomore2009> i want it, and dont bitch
[06:14] <evsophomore2009> im just asking for help, not your apponion
[06:14] <intelikey> ubotu   was desyncd
[06:14] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: I won't anymore :)
[06:14] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Yeah
[06:14] <roho> well, one thing about itunes is that you can pretty much get any song you want and it's easy.
[06:14] <Guilty_as_Sin> not giving you crap..   just can't imagine there being a reason for it
[06:14] <evsophomore2009> Okay sorry about the attitude
[06:14] <rockets> evsophomore2009: hey, I'm on your side man. I think iTunes owns amarok, rhythmbox, exaile, banshee, etc/
[06:15] <roho> many other mp3 places make you subscribe or put down a minimum balance
[06:15] <evsophomore2009> thanks you! i hate Amarok
[06:15] <roho> ok, now that's where we disagree
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about was desyncd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <evsophomore2009> Rockets: Do you know how to install iTunes with Wine? it dosent work for me
[06:15] <rockets> evsophomore2009: Amarok is good in theory, but the interface is SO UGLY
[06:15] <rockets> evsophomore2009: nope never tried, i settled for amarok/rhythmbox
[06:15] <evsophomore2009> yeah it is
[06:15] <intelikey> !opsnack
[06:15] <ubotu> Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[06:15] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: The Wine page probably has a walkthrough
[06:15] <TeraDyne> evsophomore2009: Why do you hate amarok?
[06:15] <DaSkreech> !botslap
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <evsophomore2009> its annoying
[06:16] <rockets> amarok is good its just ugly as hell
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Why isn't that implemented yet :-(
[06:16] <roho> it would be cool if amarok had a buy mp3 thingy
[06:16] <Maxdamantus> evsophomore2009, Try crossover-linux
[06:16] <Ramon> is there a way to auto detect my hardware?
[06:16] <evsophomore2009> Crossover-linux?
[06:16] <Maxdamantus> It's like Wine, but improved for some products.
[06:16] <Ramon> it is not detecting it when it is starting
[06:16] <DaSkreech> roho: it does
[06:16] <Maxdamantus> iTunes being one of them.
[06:16] <rockets> evsophomore2009: I have crossover, it only supports quicktime not itunes
[06:16] <evsophomore2009> how do i get it
[06:16] <TeraDyne> crossover office?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: That's it. I knew there was something that did itunes
[06:16] <Maxdamantus> Google. :d
[06:16] <rockets> in fact, kde widgets in general are ugly as hell. I love KDE, I use kubuntu as my main os, but KDE is uuuggggly
[06:16] <roho> DaSkreech: oh? do tell.
[06:16] <Maxdamantus> It's only a 30 day trial though, I think.
[06:16] <DaSkreech> Ramon: What is it?
[06:16] <Guilty_as_Sin> oh yeah, some people do still buy mp3's
[06:16] <DaSkreech> roho: It has Magnatune and ... something else
[06:17] <roho> yeah, but magnatune has poor choice
[06:17] <Maxdamantus> rockets, why ues KDE then?
[06:17] <roho> i haven't heard of most of the artists on magnatune
[06:17] <DaSkreech> rockets: so change them
[06:17] <DaSkreech> roho: that's half of the point :) it's independent
[06:17] <Maxdamantus> You can sort of mix them together too if you want.
[06:17] <roho> yeah, i know
[06:17] <roho> DaSkreech: so what was the "something else"?
[06:17] <Maxdamantus> Like have GNOME with the KDE Kicker. :d
[06:17] <rockets> No, I like KDE :-D
[06:18] <Maxdamantus> And the desktop of your choice.
[06:18] <rockets> I'm willing to put up with the ugliness for the great applications
[06:18] <Maxdamantus> [16:16:24]   <rockets> in fact, kde widgets in general are ugly as hell. I love KDE, I use kubuntu as my main os, but KDE is uuuggggly
[06:18] <Ramon> daskreech: the linux box is not detecting my network card
[06:18] <Maxdamantus> What's ugly about it then?
[06:18] <Ramon> or it is not configuring it.. it appears under lspci
[06:18] <crimsun> Qt4 changes all that.
[06:18] <rockets> Maxdamantus: the way the widgets look makes all KDE apps look cluttered to me
[06:18] <DaSkreech> roho: It's in KDE4
[06:18] <rockets> And I kind of feel like all the apps look like theyre from 1995
[06:18] <roho> of course!
[06:18] <roho> tease me like that
[06:18] <roho> :D
[06:18] <intelikey> !anything
[06:18] <Guilty_as_Sin> widgets are a waste of cpu in my opinion
[06:18] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[06:18] <TeraDyne> rockets: you can create your own widgets
[06:18] <DaSkreech> roho: http://ww.commit-digest.org/issues/latest and grep for amarok
[06:19] <rockets> by widgets i mean the buttons in applications
[06:19] <rockets> yes but im too lazy to create my own widgets
[06:19] <Maxdamantus> rockets, you mean the GTK programs run under KDE?
[06:19] <roho> greppage commenced
[06:19] <rockets> no i mean Qt programs under kde
[06:19] <byonix> Hi, i'm in college, major in accounting, anyone knows about, audit software in kubuntu, like ACL
[06:19] <rockets> GTK programs I use the Human style with and they look fine
[06:19] <roho> DaSkreech: that domain is dead
[06:19] <byonix> or something
[06:19] <Maxdamantus> ...
[06:19] <DaSkreech> roho: add another w
[06:19] <Maxdamantus> They don't look like 1995 to me.
[06:19] <rockets> I use KDE despite my opinions on it, because I like the way it works in general.
[06:19] <roho> oh
[06:19] <roho> heh
[06:19] <Maxdamantus> Default widgets from Kubuntu 7.04, with a different colour look cool.
[06:20] <Maxdamantus> With the slow mouseover animation.
[06:20] <rockets> that animation is cool i agree
[06:20] <Guilty_as_Sin> kde is crispy clean..  thank you to the all of you that make that possible
[06:20] <DaSkreech> byonix: Audit as in accounting ?
[06:20] <DaSkreech> or audit as in Securoty ?
[06:20] <Maxdamantus> In 1995, widgets were boxes.
[06:20] <Maxdamantus> Like Windows 95 for example.
[06:20] <DaSkreech> !network
[06:20] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:20] <Maxdamantus> KDE had widgets like that too at that time.
[06:20] <rockets> KDE is about as crispy as win98 with fading buttons
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Is there a troubleshooter page for networking cards ?
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Ramon: how do you know it's gone ?
[06:21] <rockets> maybe there is a !network
[06:21] <rockets> !network
[06:21] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:21] <Guilty_as_Sin> now that is interesting
[06:21] <DaSkreech> Ramon: do you see it when you do a sudo ifconfig -a ?
[06:21] <rockets> apparently not
[06:23] <Maxdamantus> http://maxdamantus.uni.cc/upload/usruploads/widgets.png
[06:23] <Maxdamantus> ^^ How does that look like Win 98?
[06:24] <wsjunior> guys i have a problem with my touchpad here. some time after log in into kde the scroll stop working and i need to switch to a virtual terminal and then come back to x session to have it working again. it seems it is a reported bug, does anybody know a fix for this?
[06:24] <evsophomore2009> umm i need help running Amarok with my iPod
[06:24] <evsophomore2009> since i CANT use iTunes
[06:24] <TeraDyne> evsophomore2009: can you be more specific?
[06:24] <evsophomore2009> how do i open my ipod on amarok...like it dosent even show its connected
[06:24] <evsophomore2009> yet it is, and the iPod is on my desktop
[06:25] <intelikey> hmmm  "ipod" ?????? "earpod" ?
[06:25] <evsophomore2009> what?
[06:26] <intelikey> nothing
[06:27] <rockets> evsophomore2009: try going to the settings and hit the autodetect devices button while its plugged in
[06:27] <rockets> sorry, to be more clear, i mean the settings for amarok, and while the ipod is plugged into the pc
[06:27] <wsjunior> guys i have a problem with my touchpad here. some time after log in into kde the scroll stop working and i need to switch to a virtual terminal and then come back to x session to have it working again. it seems it is a reported bug, does anybody know a fix for this?
[06:27] <rockets> autodetect devices is a one time button, not a checkbox/setting, but it is in settings for whatever reason
[06:27] <DaSkreech> evsophomore2009: I think it should be under the devices tab
[06:28] <evsophomore2009> Media Device: iPod mounted at /media/EVJUNIOR200 already locked. If you are sure that this is an error, then remove the file /media/EVJUNIOR200/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesLock and try again.
[06:28] <Guilty_as_Sin> all I know about touchpad problems is a link for disabling touchpad..  interest you at all?
[06:28] <evsophomore2009> im lost
[06:29] <wsjunior> Guilty_as_Sin: no. i prefer to use my touchpad than other mouse
[06:29] <Guilty_as_Sin> I figured
[06:29] <wsjunior> its damn odd
[06:29] <rockets> Yeah, I'm so used to the touchpad now
[06:29] <stdin> evsophomore2009: that means that iTunes "locked" the iPod database (or rather didn't unlock it)
[06:29] <rockets> I use a laptop 24/7
[06:29] <Maxdamantus> rockets, do you ever sleep/eat/drink/(school|work)?
[06:30] <Guilty_as_Sin> brb..  my baby just got a pankin'
[06:30] <wsjunior> i cant figure out why it stop working and only way to get it back is switching to a vt and come back to x session
[06:30] <byonix> any audit softwares (accounting) in kubuntu?
[06:30] <evsophomore2009> How do i Unlock it?
[06:30] <rockets> Maxdamantus: very funny
[06:30] <TeraDyne> evsophomore2009: go into a terminal and put in "rm /media/EVJUNIOR200/iPod_Control/iTunes/iTunesLock"
[06:30] <rockets> Hey great news guys!
[06:30] <DaSkreech> byonix: try kmymoney2
[06:30] <DaSkreech> it's really personal accounting
[06:30] <rockets> It looks like the latest proprietary ATI driver has basic support for the composite extension!
[06:31] <DaSkreech> the only thing close to heavy duty accoutnign I know of is Gnucash
[06:31] <TeraDyne> that should remove the lock and let amarok detect the ipod
[06:32] <TeraDyne> sorry for the delay. In the middle of a pokemon battle. >_>;
[06:34] <byonix> anyone knows about calc manual, specially about its function in financial,statistics,data analysis?
[06:34] <DaSkreech> calc manual ?
[06:35] <TeraDyne> DaSkreech: that's what I was about to ask
[06:35] <DaSkreech> ramon?
[06:36] <byonix> yes, the spreadsheet, like some books that i could download
[06:36] <DaSkreech> oh OO.o calc
[06:37] <DaSkreech> oooooooooo calc
[06:37] <DaSkreech> byonix: Have you looked at the functions in it? As far as I know it has a lot of them built in and ready to go
[06:37] <intelikey> http://tinyurl.com/ytmv5z
[06:38] <TeraDyne> byonix: http://documentation.openoffice.org/
[06:38] <TeraDyne> check there
[06:38] <byonix> in process
[06:38] <DaSkreech> My friend is an accountant and switched over to Linux cause of Oo.o
[06:38] <DaSkreech> He says it's much easier to do his work in it
[06:40] <dr_willis> Hmm oo.o runs under windows also. :)
[06:41] <sebastian23> hello
[06:41] <intelikey> yes but it's not "easier to do things" in windows   :)
[06:41] <sebastian23> i need some help please. How do I configure the scrolling area in my synaptics touchpad?
[06:42] <TeraDyne> dr_willis: But it loads like a slug there. I would know, I have a dual core x64 with 1GB RAM on my desktop with winXP, and my 3 year old laptop running Kubuntu compile it before it loads on winXP
[06:42] <byonix> DaSkreech : i want to know more about your friend experiences, can i contact him/her?
[06:42] <TeraDyne> can* compile it.
[06:42] <DaSkreech> byonix: Sure give me a contact and I'll let them get in contact
[06:43] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: but compiz doesn't
[06:43] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: he had a reaaaaly old machine (couldn't run windows XP) it can run Ubuntu and compiz though
[06:43] <DaSkreech> !touchpad
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:44] <DaSkreech> !find touchpad
[06:44] <TeraDyne> *thud* why won't SeaMonkey COMPILE?!?
[06:44] <ubotu> File touchpad found in acpi-support
[06:44] <sebastian23> !acpi-support
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi-support - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <roho> the best thing about linux is that if you want something to work, you have to learn everything about it and ask questions all over the internet
[06:45] <sebastian23> thanks DaSkreech
[06:45] <DaSkreech> sebastian23: There is a thingy :) I'm trying to remember the name of the package where you can configure taht stuff
[06:46] <DaSkreech> roho: yeah and after that it works for years
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Or at least till your next dist-upgrade :_) but then you actually know how to fix it
[06:46] <roho> it's also the main reason why normal folks don't use it
[06:46] <roho> oh well
[06:46] <roho> DaSkreech: or you have a new problem! haha
[06:47] <TeraDyne> DaSkreech: I don't dist-upgrade. I just do a fresh install, or leave it alone if it's slackware.
[06:47] <roho> i drink several shots of vodka
[06:47] <sebastian23> DaSkreech: I tried gsynaptics but there isn't a way to configre the size of the scroll area
[06:47] <DaSkreech> !info ksynaptics
[06:47] <ubotu> ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 209 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[06:47] <DaSkreech> :-D
[06:48] <TeraDyne> roho: If I tried that, I wouldn't be able to keep my food down for weeks.
[06:48] <DaSkreech> roho: I'm guessing you gave a problem :)
[06:48] <roho> nah
[06:48] <roho> i don't drink really
[06:48] <roho> i'm just frustrated with a couple problems i don't know how to fix
[06:48] <roho> so i made some ramen
[06:48] <DaSkreech> roho: I meant with linux :)
[06:48] <roho> heh
[06:49] <DaSkreech> ./configure && make ramen
[06:49] <roho> DaSkreech: well, the system is stable and everything, just some things i'm working on are tough
[06:49] <TeraDyne> roho: even the smell of alcohol or wine makes me sick.
[06:49] <roho> TeraDyne: sorry to hear that
[06:49] <TeraDyne> Ramen... Yum.
[06:49] <TeraDyne> roho: don't be. It gives me an advantage in driving tests. XD
[06:50] <DaSkreech> and trapeze artist showowns
[06:50] <DaSkreech> roho: care to share ?
[06:50] <sebastian23> thanks again DaSkreech i will give it a try
[06:50] <roho> share ramen or my linux problems?
[06:50] <Tm_T> intelikey: hum
[06:51] <TeraDyne> roho: both, hopefully.
[06:52] <DaSkreech> roho: First one then the other
[06:52] <TeraDyne> hmm... it's 11:51 pm here. I wonder if I'd get yelled at for cooking some ramen.
[06:52] <roho> DaSkreech: eh, you can have the ramen. i'm done messing with this system for the day
[06:52] <intelikey> Tm_T yo   ?
[06:53] <DaSkreech> roho: What's the problem?
[06:53] <roho> well, the one that's taken the majority of my time today is with nxserver
[06:53] <roho> it worked perfectly yesterday
[06:53] <roho> now it's dropping connections and spewing really strange output
[06:54] <roho> no one has any idea what's wrong, and the people in #nx are *silent*. like all day today.
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :-)
[06:55] <DaSkreech> Sorry set up nx once and it's been fine since that
[06:55] <roho> the ramen, on the other hand, is hot and shrimp-flavored. its only problem is that it's too hot to eat at the moment.
[06:55] <roho> DaSkreech: i know! that's how it was yesterday. and now i'm HOOKED! vnc will never be the same again :(
[06:56] <roho> DaSkreech: well, i'll dump the output in a pastebin. just check it out and if something immediately stands out, let me know
[06:56] <DaSkreech> kk
[06:56] <egon> hello
[06:56] <DaSkreech> I'll tell you about it tomorrow
[06:57] <roho> alright, one sec.
[06:57] <egon> how can i get systemrights so rename or edit some files? :(
[06:57] <stdin> !sudo | egon
[06:57] <ubotu> egon: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:57] <rockets> Anybody tried out google desktop for linux yet?
[06:57] <egon> i know but when i want to rename a system file wath do i have to do?
[06:58] <intelikey> wops and hops others    :)
[06:58] <roho> DaSkreech: http://sial.org/pbot/25857
[06:58] <bob_sinclair> egon: use mv
[06:58] <stdin> egon: in console "sudo mv /path/to/oldname /path/to/newname" , for a GUI run "kdesu konqueror"
[06:59] <Tenerifedave> hey everyone....does anybody know how to clean ntfs partitions in ubuntu?
[06:59] <bob_sinclair> clean?
[06:59] <Tenerifedave> yep
[06:59] <roho> format you mean?
[06:59] <Tenerifedave> no
[06:59] <bob_sinclair> do you mean check for errors?
[06:59] <Tenerifedave> clean lol
[06:59] <Tenerifedave> thats the one
[06:59] <bob_sinclair> what does cleaning do?
[07:00] <bob_sinclair> oh
[07:00] <Tenerifedave> check for errors and clean them
[07:00] <bob_sinclair> fix
[07:00] <bob_sinclair> you don't clean an error :)
[07:00] <Tenerifedave> yeah, same thing
[07:00] <bob_sinclair> its not
[07:01] <bob_sinclair> !info dosfstools
[07:01] <ubotu> dosfstools: Utilities to create and check MS-DOS FAT filesystems. In component main, is standard. Version 2.11-2.1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 52 kB, installed size 144 kB
[07:01] <bob_sinclair> not sure if they support ntfs
[07:01] <Tenerifedave> ah right ok
[07:01] <intelikey> symantic pedantic
[07:01] <roho> !find ntfs
[07:01] <ubotu> Found: libntfs-dev, libntfs9, ntfsprogs, libntfs-3g-dev, libntfs-3g0 (and 4 others)
[07:01] <roho> maybe ntfsprogs
[07:01] <bob_sinclair> !info ntfsprogs
[07:01] <ubotu> ntfsprogs: tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.13.1-6 (feisty), package size 267 kB, installed size 700 kB
[07:01] <roho> that's probably it
[07:01] <Tenerifedave> tried ntfsprogs, got it installed but dunno how to run it
[07:02] <Tenerifedave> doesnt run under the command ntfsprogs
[07:02] <roho> it's a collection of programs
[07:02] <egon> thx
[07:02] <sebastian23> DaSkreech : It worked! (ksynaptics). Thank you very much
[07:02] <Tenerifedave> oh right
[07:02] <rockets> Whats the beagle equivalent for KDE
[07:02] <stdin> Tenerifedave: you run the command "ntfsfix" look at "man ntfsfix"
[07:02] <egon> and wath do i have to do when i want to edit some files?
[07:02] <roho> see www.linux-ntfs.org
[07:02] <Tenerifedave> ahh ok
[07:02] <intelikey> my macnanic always uses his tool box to fix my car
[07:02] <Tenerifedave> thanks stdin and roho
[07:02] <byonix> i have an installjammer software, how to use it?, i tried no success
[07:02] <stdin> egon: right click it and choose "actions -> edit as root"
[07:03] <TeraDyne> stdin: kerry, IIRC
[07:03] <bob_sinclair> Tenerifedave: have a look at apt:/show?ntfsprogs in konqueror it tells you there how to run
[07:03] <bob_sinclair> ntfsfix
[07:04] <egon> hmm i cant choos it xD
[07:04] <TeraDyne> !info kerry | stdin
[07:04] <bob_sinclair> i just tried a sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda3
[07:04] <ubotu> stdin: kerry: a KDE frontend for the Beagle desktop search daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.2.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 291 kB, installed size 1360 kB
[07:04] <stdin> TeraDyne: ???
[07:04] <TeraDyne> sorry. I ment rockets
[07:04] <egon> only e.mail and bluetooth
[07:04] <egon> xD
[07:04] <DaSkreech> sebastian23: glad to help
[07:04] <egon> no open with root :(
[07:05] <TeraDyne> I've been staring at the dang screen too long. Lines are starting to blur together
[07:05] <rockets> TeraDyne: ubotu "doesn't know anything about info
[07:05] <stdin> egon: hmm, well you can always just open kate as root with "kdesu kate"
[07:05] <intelikey> "you can always"  ?
[07:06] <TeraDyne> rockets: you need to add a package name after "info"
[07:06] <rockets> o yeah
[07:06] <rockets> hmm. cat vs kerry
[07:06] <Carutsu> intelikey hasn't said anything vey /inteligent/ in all his sentences
[07:08] <TeraDyne> anyone know what I need to get the X headers?
[07:08] <TeraDyne> need it for SeaMonkey
[07:08] <stdin> !xincludes
[07:08] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev
[07:08] <dr_willis> xorg-dev sounds right
[07:08] <stdin> TeraDyne: xorg-dev is the one you want
[07:08] <TeraDyne> thanks
[07:08] <TeraDyne> both of you
[07:09] <rockets> Ah I like Beagle, so I'll use Kerry
[07:09] <intelikey> actually there are two.   xorg-dev - the X.Org development libraries
[07:09] <intelikey> xserver-xorg-dev - X.Org X server -- development files
[07:10] <TeraDyne> I'll just install both
[07:10] <stdin> xorg-dev depends on xserver-xorg-dev
[07:11] <sebastian23> I have another question if anyone could help me please. How do I change the colors of the contact list background in kopete?
[07:11] <rockets> the kerry shortcuts arent working?
[07:11] <rockets> :-(
[07:12] <stdin> sebastian23: in kopete settings, appearance tab -> colors & fints
[07:13] <TeraDyne> stdin: fints?
[07:13] <stdin> *fonts
[07:14] <DaSkreech> rockets: strigi I guess
[07:16] <rockets> Is there a way to make X restart automatically after I logout
[07:17] <intelikey> rockets using gdm there is a setting in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf  that forces restart of xorg when users logout.   kde may have the same in /etc/kde?/kdm* ????
[07:18] <rockets> intelikey: yeah I know about gdm but this is kd,
[07:18] <rockets> kdm
[07:18] <rockets> my whole computer locks up without that setting, when i log out
[07:18] <rockets> X doesnt restart and cant use ctrl-alt-F* to get a terminal
[07:19] <intelikey> i stay away from kdm cause it writes to /root and does a few other wierd things.
[07:19] <intelikey> rockets let me guess   tosheba ?
[07:19] <eagles0513875> hobbsee morning
[07:19] <rockets> intelikey: dell
[07:19] <intelikey> with ati chips ?
[07:19] <rockets> yup.
[07:20] <rockets> It works fine if I disable fglrx but thats not an option
[07:20] <rockets> my card is too new to have 3d acceleration with the open source driver
[07:20] <rockets> intelikey: guess I'm logging out with ctrl-alt-backspace then
[07:20] <sebastian23> stdin: but there's no option to change the colors of the contact list or the color of the fonts of the contact list
[07:21] <stdin> sebastian23: it's the background color
[07:21] <theRealballchalk> http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/hatsoff/index.html?cid=251015
[07:21] <intelikey> rockets well i haven't found an acceptable answer to that one yet.     are you running 64bit or 32bit system ?
[07:22] <rockets> 32 bit
[07:22] <sebastian23> stdin: no it's not. the background color changes the color of the chat window
[07:22] <rockets> hmm
[07:22] <intelikey> yeah.    i tried both.   64 seems worse.   but 32 is not "right" so   idk.  if i come up with anything i'll give a yell
[07:23] <rockets> if i could find a way to do /etc/init.d/kdm restart on logout
[07:23] <rockets> that might work
[07:23] <rockets> heh thanks
[07:23] <rockets> same here
[07:23] <eagles0513875> hobbs i send ya pm dont know whether u got it
[07:23] <intelikey> rockets why not use gdm ?
[07:23] <rockets> intelikey: eh. . . because thats not really a fix
[07:23] <sebastian23> stdin: can i send you a screenshot?
[07:23] <rockets> its a workaround
[07:23] <eagles0513875> intelikey: waht u having problems with
[07:23] <rockets> I'm using KDE, I should be able to use KDM
[07:23] <stdin> sebastian23: I don't use kopete, that was just from memory
[07:23] <rockets> a new ati driver just came out, should be in feisty
[07:23] <rockets> that might help
[07:24] <stdin> rockets: maybe ask in #kde ?
[07:24] <rockets> i mean gutsy
[07:24] <rockets> stdin: good idea!
[07:24] <intelikey> rockets that doesn't matter.    the ?dm has little or nothing to do with the desktop env.
[07:24] <eagles0513875> rockets was it u who asked if kde 3.5 when it was going to be released
[07:24] <stdin> intelikey: KDE may not be able to shutdown/restart from the logout menu with gdm
[07:25] <intelikey> stdin why not ?  does for me
[07:25] <sebastian23> stdin: thanks anyway
[07:25] <bryan> intelikey- waz up
[07:25] <sebastian23> anyone who can help me please
[07:25] <intelikey> bryan nothing new
[07:25] <stdin> intelikey: it did, then it didn't, not sure about the current state of that bug
[07:26] <intelikey> stdin oh.  that's fiesty specific ?
[07:26] <bryan> intelikey-I'm back former name ubuntu from yesterday
[07:26] <rockets> intelikey: I think i found it, hold on
[07:26] <intelikey> bryan yeah.   that was ubuntu_ wasn't it ?    hows the war ?
[07:26] <stdin> intelikey: I think it's actually kde-3.5.6 specific
[07:27] <bryan> intelikey- had to reinstall but was able to get important files out using xp
[07:27] <rockets> intelikey: I got it!
[07:28] <intelikey> rockets locale ?
[07:28] <rockets> intelikey: no, i got the x server restart with kdm
[07:28] <intelikey> heh  yeah i mean where?
[07:29] <rockets> TerminateServer=true in the kdmrc file
[07:29] <rockets> in the X-*-core section
[07:29] <intelikey> ok.  makes sense
[07:29] <rockets> [x-*-core] 
[07:30] <bryan> intelikey- new problem. I was not able to install ENVY like I did last time to install my nvidia 7900 gt. Get ERROR 403: Forbidden
[07:30] <rockets> I think I'm going to set up a wiki to store all the answers i find. publicly accessible but not editable
[07:30] <intelikey> that string basicly tells xorg that the terminal it was displaying on has "just dropped of the face of the earth" so to speak rockets
[07:31] <eagles0513875> lol im working on a website rockets with simplified how to's that i have been given
[07:31] <rockets> eagles0513875: yup
[07:31] <rockets> intelikey: heh
[07:31] <rockets> im about to test it
[07:31] <eagles0513875> hobbs everything ok
[07:32] <bryan> intelikey- anything on my issue?
[07:32] <intelikey> bryan hmmm that's network.  running it as root ?   some server setups wont allow root.     i'm not really familear with envy tho.
[07:32] <rockets> brb
[07:32] <intelikey> you hope
[07:32] <intelikey> :)
[07:33] <bryan> how do I know if I'm running on root?
[07:33] <stdin> bryan: run "whoami"
[07:33] <intelikey> bryan did you say  sudo envy  or something ?
[07:33] <intelikey> stdin # whoami
[07:34] <intelikey> stdout
[07:34] <stdin> bryan: but that looks like a remote http error
[07:34] <bryan> This is what is says todo:
[07:34] <bryan> wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/
[07:34] <bryan> envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb
[07:34] <bryan> sudo dpkg -i envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb
[07:35] <intelikey> yeah that's a network error.
[07:35] <bryan> from my side?
[07:36] <intelikey> and if that's the instructions for install then i'll assume that you have to run it as root.     so.   1 the server was down.  2 the server admin tightened security  3 intelikey has no clue 4 other
[07:36] <rockets> intelikey: It worked! Its a freaking miracle.
[07:36] <rockets> Actually no, its google.
[07:36] <stdin> bryan: make sure you put "wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/" and "envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb" on the same line
[07:36] <stdin> bryan: ie: "http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb
[07:37] <bryan> stdin-? I get errors
[07:37] <intelikey> stdin if that's a line break you nailed.  i just thought the irc client had to break the string some place.
[07:38] <intelikey> wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i envy_0.8.1-0ubuntu6_all.deb
[07:38] <stdin> intelikey: the URL came through as 2 messages here
[07:38] <intelikey> one line.
[07:39] <intelikey> stdin yes thats what i'm saying.  you saw the line break.  i didn't      good eye.
[07:40] <stdin> intelikey: widescreen display in X helps :p
[07:40] <TeraDyne_> great. I'm listed twice
[07:40] <TeraDyne_> Ok, need some help. hold on, as this will be a little long
[07:40] <intelikey> TeraDyne_ ..................................................................................................
[07:41] <TeraDyne_> Basicly, the entire laptop came to a crashing death while I was compiling SeaMonkey. Is there any way I can find out what happened?
[07:41] <bryan> http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.5-0ubuntu5_all.deb is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.
[07:42] <bryan> is what I get when I click on it
[07:42] <stdin> bryan: use that URL with wget, or right-click and choose "save-as"
[07:43] <TeraDyne> Anyone know what log to look at to find out why everything just died suddenly, forcing me to restart?
[07:44] <bryan> thax that help
[07:45] <intelikey> TeraDyne assuming there is a message.  /var/log/Xorg.* or /var/log/{messages,ksymoops/*}   i doubt that there is a message if it just crashed hard.
[07:46] <TeraDyne> intelikey: Ok. Yeah, it was a hard crash. Everything just went *poof*.
[07:47] <intelikey> yah that don't leave the kernel time to write to disk really
[07:47] <TeraDyne> intelikey: that's what worries me. it was writting to disk when it happened.
[07:48] <intelikey> e2fsck
[07:48] <TeraDyne> intelikey: another odd thing is that I didn't have X when I rebooted. KDMwouldn't load.
[07:49] <bryan> intelikey- it ask for package module-assistant
[07:49] <TeraDyne> I did. It checked out.
[07:49] <intelikey> not so odd  lock files not removed TeraDyne
[07:49] <intelikey> !module-assistant
[07:50] <intelikey> !info module-assistant
[07:50] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.10 (feisty), package size 86 kB, installed size 428 kB
[07:50] <intelikey> bryan it's in universe.    sudo apt-get install module-assistant
[07:50] <TeraDyne> intelikey: ah. good point.
[07:50] <TeraDyne> now, to start the comipile... again... *thud*
[07:52] <intelikey> so i may end up installing windo...
[07:53] <intelikey> and a change of occupation.
[07:54] <bryan> no it says that packages have unmet dependencies did not install some
[07:54] <intelikey> bryan   sudo apt-get install -f
[07:54] <intelikey> then pastebin any errors it through
[07:54] <TeraDyne> intelikey: doesn't anyone use aptitude?
[07:55] <intelikey> yeah everyone in #debian
[07:55] <intelikey> :)
[07:55] <TeraDyne> *note to self, clear the dang line*
[07:56] <TeraDyne> intelikey: I use aptitude, just because it makes it easier to remove things later.
[07:57] <TeraDyne> O_O;
[07:57] <DaSkreech> TeraDyne: Ha ha Play more games :)
[07:58] <intelikey> modem reset
[07:58] <TeraDyne> DaSkreech: I am. Pokemon Battle Revolution, .hack, and Turok 2, to be exact
[07:58] <DaSkreech> FF1 FTW!
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Which .hack ?
[07:59] <TeraDyne> FFT FTW! But enough offtopic
[07:59] <rockets> Is there a way to quickly enable compiz in kubuntu, like you can in ubuntu
[07:59] <rockets> with the checkboxes
[07:59] <kalorin`> !ati
[07:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:59] <DaSkreech> I hear that they are making a new game for PS3. Many bets are up as to wethere or not it's a new .hack
[07:59] <TeraDyne> DaSkreech: .hack//infection and .hack//G.U. vol 2
[08:00] <rockets> i have the ati driver already
[08:00] <rockets> im asking about the "enable desktop effects" dialouge that ubuntu has
[08:00] <intelikey> bother says poo.   i gota regrub this thing. E 21
[08:01] <DaSkreech> E is at version 21 now? Damn I miss a lot :(
[08:01] <intelikey> not E21  E: 21
[08:01] <TeraDyne> Error 21?
[08:01] <intelikey> grub error  yeah
[08:02] <TeraDyne> ah
[08:02] <DaSkreech> Wait
[08:02] <DaSkreech> The machine you are on just threw a grub error?
[08:02] <DaSkreech> or the machine you are installing Windows on?
[08:03] <TeraDyne> DaSkreech: if he was still chatting from a machine that threw out a grub error, I'd say he's a miracle worker.
[08:03] <DaSkreech> Yeah I know :)
[08:04] <intelikey> DaSkreech one of the machines i'm on.
[08:05] <TeraDyne> If this compile fails, I'm going to chuck my wiimote, and probably the system, at my laptop.
[08:06] <eagles0513875> dont do that dude
[08:06] <eagles0513875> wiis r still vry hard to come by at least where i live lol
[08:06] <TeraDyne> eagles0513875: True. I shouldn't forget about that.
[08:07] <eagles0513875> if u do all i got to say is gd luck finding a replacement lol
[08:07] <DaSkreech> PLus you can use the wiimote as a mouse :)
[08:08] <TeraDyne> Still, 6 failed compiles, and one that might have succeded.
[08:08] <eagles0513875> if the compile fails then there is a problem in the programming code
[08:09] <TeraDyne> eagles0513875: no, firts one was due to missing libgtk2.0-dev, and the rest were because I forgot to grab the X headers.
[08:09] <eagles0513875> ahhh but then again that could always be a possibility lol
[08:13] <intelikey> a computer is better that a wife.
[08:14] <intelikey> at least better at ticking me off....
[08:14] <Daisuke_Ido> "can your wife stop popups?  no.  can a computer show you naked women?  yes."
[08:15] <intelikey> oh yes she can.  you never met her.
[08:15] <intelikey> :)
[08:19] <TeraDyne> I knew Seamonkey had everything, but I didn't expect the Kitchen Sink as well
[08:20] <TeraDyne> Sorry, couldn't resist.
[08:20] <intelikey> they just thew that in for balest
[08:20] <TeraDyne> intelikey: balest?
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[08:21] <TeraDyne> balence?
[08:21] <TeraDyne> balance*
[08:21] <Kr00lplatinum> does anyone know how log a ban in #ubuntu last?
[08:21] <TeraDyne> Kr00lplatinum: no idea. What did you get banned for?
[08:21] <Kr00lplatinum> AFK
[08:22] <Kr00lplatinum> for a few hours
[08:22] <Tm_T> that's not ban reason
[08:22] <Kr00lplatinum> that's all i did
[08:22] <Tm_T> Kr00lplatinum: #ubuntu-ops for this
[08:22] <Kr00lplatinum> THX to all
[08:23] <intelikey> TeraDyne not balence balest   "the work about the same tho"
[08:23] <TeraDyne> intelikey: ok... I think I understand.
[08:24] <Kr00lplatinum> there is no one at #ubuntu-ops. Any ideas?
[08:25] <Tm_T> Kr00lplatinum: there is, I'm there
[08:25] <Tm_T> as many others
[08:25] <Kr00lplatinum> I don't see ya
[08:25] <Kr00lplatinum> ## or just #
[08:25] <kizsari> hai
[08:25] <Tm_T> Kr00lplatinum: just # ofcourse
[08:25] <Kr00lplatinum> yeah
[08:25] <Kr00lplatinum> thx
[08:25] <intelikey> Kr00lplatinum until the oper that set the ban removes it.  or some other op if it seems good to them to remove it.   i was banned for #ubuntu for over a month
[08:26] <TeraDyne> intelikey: what did you do to deserve that?
[08:27] <intelikey> told an op that he was wrong about   sudo -i   and sudo su -  not achieving the same end result        'some times it's not good to correct people'
[08:28] <TeraDyne> if that's true... Jeez... Makes me wonder how friendly they really are...
[08:28] <intelikey> some in there are extreemly #perl + #debian oriented   if you can declue that.
[08:29] <intelikey> and it realy doesn't hurt to ban a dozen people from a channel with over a thousand in it...
[08:29] <intelikey> even if they just spell their name funny...
[08:30] <intelikey> i'm a bit of a non-conformest anyway i guess.   i'm one of those people that believe that "speed limit" means upper limit not lower limit  :)
[08:30] <TeraDyne> O_O;
[08:31] <TeraDyne> Seeing as I don't have my DL yet, I always drive the speed limit.
[08:32] <TeraDyne> Maybe I should clarify myself. I have a learner's permit, but no driver's license.
[08:32] <intelikey> like millions.  but speed limit means 'do not achieve this rate!"  heh.  so if you always drive below the limit.....
[08:33] <TeraDyne> you drive below the limit here, you'll probably end up in an accident very quickly.
[08:34] <intelikey> if automobiles had auto distruct devices that went off if you exceeded the limit  people would all obay the posted speed limits  :)      {not that i'm for that mind you.}
[08:36] <TeraDyne> intelikey: No, but something that beats the driver for going 20 above, I'm all for that.
[08:36] <intelikey> TeraDyne yeah. i understand hazardous conditions, conjested traffic; and so forth.    but it was just the point.
[08:36] <intelikey> TeraDyne that's called a wife !
[08:36] <intelikey> :)
[08:37] <intelikey> or in your case "mother" maybe.
[08:37] <TeraDyne> intelikey: I live with my parents. I don't have a wife.
[08:37] <eagles0513875> hobbsee can u pm me for a min i need to ask ya something
[08:38] <TeraDyne> I'm actually 21, but the state that my parents are in show me that they need me here. >_>;
[08:38] <intelikey> oh state not State     duh
[08:39] <TeraDyne> Mother's blind, no father (even blank on my birth certificate), and two grandparents in bad health, so I try to help out as much as possible.
[08:41] <intelikey> TeraDyne sorry to head that.   truely i didn't mean to get personal.   just a play on words; to state the state of the languate in this state...
[08:41] <intelikey> it's terrable
[08:41] <Nergar> hello, i'm compiling from source k3b but  ./configure fails because: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[08:41] <Nergar> Soth, check this please and use another prefix!
[08:42] <eagles0513875> !kde headers
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde headers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <TeraDyne> intelikey: I don't take offense. Heck, It's rare when I get angry with anyone.
[08:42] <eagles0513875> nergar search in adept there must be a kde headers pkg
[08:42] <TeraDyne> intelikey: So no harm done.
[08:43] <TeraDyne> hold on, I think I remember the kde dev package name
[08:43] <Nergar> ok
[08:43] <intelikey> kdebase-dev ?
[08:43] <intelikey> or  kde-devel
[08:44] <gnomefreak> Nergar: sudo apt-get build-dep k3b
[08:44] <TeraDyne> no, it's kdelibs or something like that.
[08:44] <gnomefreak> Nergar: that command will get you everything you need
[08:45] <gnomefreak> let apt do the work for you :)
[08:45] <intelikey> that's cheeting.
[08:45] <Nergar> yes
[08:45] <intelikey> dselect it
[08:46] <gnomefreak> cheating would be apt-get source k3b -b
[08:47] <intelikey> write your own binaries with  110111010101001010
[08:50] <deaden> more like hex
[08:50] <intelikey> oct
[08:51] <intelikey> rwxr-xr-x cot
[08:51] <intelikey> oct even
[09:01] <intelikey> perms  rwsrwsrwt  ?
[09:02] <rathel> I need help with Amarok, it's not displaying my saved playlist, if I make a new playlist and save it as the same name it'll ask to overwrite, but it doesn't show up in the playlist panel.
[09:06] <TeraDyne> rathel: I had this problem once before. Just import the playlist from "~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/playlists" and it should stay there.
[09:07] <rathel> TeraDyne: Aw, thank ya. :)
[09:08] <TeraDyne> rathel: no problem
[09:19] <intelikey> i really don't like having to hold a button in for 10 seconds before it does anything.  why do they not still put a manual reset button on computers ???
[09:20] <TeraDyne> intelikey: Because that would be the easy way out.
[09:20] <intelikey> cheeting ?
[09:20] <intelikey> :)
[09:22] <darkrift411> anyone know a linux program that writes lightscribe?
[09:23] <Ace2016> can't k3b do lightescribe
[09:24] <Ace2016> http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10803
[09:24] <Ace2016> its free
[09:25] <Ace2016> darkrift411: check out the link
[09:34] <TeraDyne> Finally. SeaMonkey is installed!
[09:35] <Ace2016> you should have done sudo checkinstall -D its easier to remove :D
[09:36] <TeraDyne> Ace2016: I tried. It failed everytime.
[09:36] <Ace2016> tried doing sudo make install and then sudo checkinstall -D
[09:38] <TeraDyne> Ah, it's working now. thanks.
[09:43] <icecruncher> is is ok for me to remove th kubuntu-desktop package? it's my only desktop and i'm running it right now
[09:43] <icecruncher> what I really wanted to do was uninstall kmail
[09:44] <Ace2016> yea you can remove kubuntu-desktop
[09:44] <icecruncher> not important?
[09:45] <Ace2016> its there so that when you install kubuntu-desktop its dependancies get installed, and the deps are the desktop and stuff,
[09:45] <TeraDyne> nope. it failed.
[09:45] <Ace2016> installing kubuntu-desktop just means you don't have to install lots of individual packages thats it
[09:46] <Ace2016> what failed?
[09:46] <TeraDyne> the checkinstall
[09:47] <Ace2016> how did it fail? during the installing part? did you have the package manager open at the same time?
[09:48] <TeraDyne> It got to to a certian part of the install and errored out. No, I only had my terminal and Konversation open.
[09:49] <Ace2016> oh ok
[09:49] <Ace2016> did the sudo make install work?
[09:49] <TeraDyne> yes.
[10:12] <PrabuMahaAnu> !mono
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mono - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <PrabuMahaAnu> did kubuntu support Mono?
[10:13] <PrabuMahaAnu> how to install Mono In Kubuntu
[10:13] <PrabuMahaAnu> sudo apt-get install mono
[10:13] <PrabuMahaAnu> ?
[10:17] <Admiral_Chicago> .qin We did it again. After another *really* long session of super-tag-team play with Davem coding as hell and me testing like crazy we finally managed to do a full install of Linux (based on Debian/Ubuntu installer) on SUN's LDOM as guest host (similar to domU concept of Xen).
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> ah crap
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry about that.
[10:37] <sercik> fedora
[10:42] <sustand> Hello everyone atkubuntu
[10:44] <sustand> Hi Ray-
[10:46] <sustand> Hello everyone
[10:46] <pag> !hi | sustand
[10:46] <ubotu> sustand: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:47] <sustand> Hi pag
[10:48] <eagles0513875> this is taking ages my isp is really starting to piss me off
[10:51] <sustand> Whats taking ages, eagles0513875
[10:52] <eagles0513875> im trying to upgrade to gutsy to help test the 64bit version out
[10:52] <eagles0513875> download speed r that of 56k and im on a 2mb cable connection
[10:52] <eagles0513875> brb
[10:52] <sustand> Hmmm
[10:52] <ReK_> !sound
[10:52] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:52] <sustand> Thats bad
[10:52] <sustand> ISP speeds are variable these days
[10:53] <eagles0513875> not this one
[10:53] <eagles0513875> this one i might as well be on dialup and if it was dialup i wouldnt be on the internet with linux cuz i have no earthly ide on how to set up 56k lol
[10:55] <sustand> My ISP says the speed can be anywhere from 256kbps to 2Mbps
[10:57] <sustand> hmm
[10:58] <bjwebb> hi, is it possible to get a search box for beagle on the kmenu or panel?
[10:58] <eagles0513875> i think mine is the same
[11:00] <gemidjy> what is the name of the application that takes care of laptop battery & stuff in feisty ?
[11:01] <smiley_> How can I get information what chipser for nvidia grapgic card do I have ??
[11:01] <gemidjy> smiley_: lspci
[11:06] <eagles0513875> gemidjy: its called power manager
[11:08] <darkrift411> anyone know how i do /me in kopete?
[11:08] <eagles0513875> nope
[11:11] <alexshenoy> why does kopete suck so much
[11:11] <eagles0513875> dunno
[11:11] <lanboy> hmm
[11:11] <eagles0513875> im slowly upgrading to gutsy to help test it out
[11:11] <lanboy> how'd i get here
[11:11] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:12] <ReK_> what the pkg for the kernel headers?
[11:12] <eagles0513875> i dont know whether the version in gutsy has gotten a facelift
[11:12] <alexshenoy> i mean i am using all kde applications except for pidgin and firefox
[11:12] <alexshenoy> and gimp
[11:12] <lanboy> i just started konversation
[11:12] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:12] <lanboy> and hit enter cos i was cleaning my keyboard
[11:12] <eagles0513875> ReK_: in shell type apt-cache search kernel header
[11:12] <eagles0513875> same here alexshenoy
[11:12] <ReK_> no net conection on the linux partition
[11:12] <ReK_> i need them to try and solve that :/
[11:12] <drgonzo> hello all
[11:12] <eagles0513875> u not on broadband ReK_
[11:13] <ReK_> i need to dl them manually on my windows side
[11:13] <eagles0513875> what kind of connection do u have ReK_
[11:13] <drgonzo> can i use kdescreensavers with gnome?
[11:13] <ReK_> no, madwifi wont behave
[11:13] <eagles0513875> mad wifi?
[11:13] <eagles0513875> !madwifi
[11:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:13] <alexshenoy> i need help with kscreensaver
[11:13] <eagles0513875> ur on wireless ReK_
[11:13] <ReK_> yes
[11:13] <eagles0513875> and what version r u using
[11:13] <eagles0513875> feisty or edgy
[11:13] <drgonzo> is kdscreensaver a frontend for xscreensavers?
[11:13] <eagles0513875> or something older than that
[11:14] <alexshenoy> it wont show up on its own.. like the screensavers work when i lock the screen, but it wont come up when my system is idle.
[11:14] <ReK_> the default with feisty. it refuses to load though, so im trying to compile 9.3.1, hence needed the kernel headers
[11:14] <Gerrit> When I open the lid of my notebook, lid.sh uses 100% CPU for a LONG time. Can I safely kill it?
[11:14] <eagles0513875> rek hold up a sec
[11:14] <eagles0513875> is urs an internal wireless card
[11:14] <ReK_> yes
[11:15] <eagles0513875> is it a broadcom 43xx card
[11:15] <Gerrit> It's using 100% cpu for 20 minutes now.
[11:15] <ReK_> laptop, cant really replace it with a more foss-friendly one
[11:15] <ReK_> atheros 5005g
[11:15] <eagles0513875> have u gone to the website to c if they have any linux drivers
[11:15] <ReK_> its officially unsupported by madwifi, yet someone with the exact model of my laptop said he got it working...
[11:16] <ReK_> madwifi is the open driver for it
[11:16] <eagles0513875> ok is that a windows driver
[11:16] <Gerrit> Hmm.
[11:16] <ReK_> no...
[11:16] <darkrift411> i find something new each day to play with on linux
[11:16] <eagles0513875> cuz there is a way u can do that using a windows driver and ndiswrapper
[11:16] <darkrift411> now if only superkaramba worked halfway decent
[11:16] <ReK_> ndiswrapper is fail
[11:16] <ReK_> tried that back in edgy
[11:16] <darkrift411> i had an awesome theme for it, but it wont stay loaded
[11:17] <eagles0513875> ReK_:  thing in kubuntu they split ndiswrapper into 3 pkgs that u need to download
[11:17] <eagles0513875> im so ready to kill my isp
[11:17] <ReK_> what the name of the kernel headers pkg in the http repository?
[11:18] <eagles0513875> in the http repository?
[11:18] <Gerrit> It's not lid.sh
[11:18] <Gerrit> When I restart my notebook after hibernation, there is 100% CPU usage continuously. Xorg is using a lot: 6% user, 60% system. My notebook is an Acer TravelMate 4100. It's already going on for more than 20 minutes. What might cause this?
[11:18] <eagles0513875> Gerrit: kill the x
[11:18] <eagles0513875> or restart it
[11:19] <Gerrit> Okay.
[11:19] <ReK_> yes, as in the web-accesible repository, meaning i can dl it through windows to use when i boot my connectionless linux
[11:19] <Gerrit> Well
[11:19] <Gerrit> If tha its the only way...
[11:19] <darkrift411> is there a way to change the size of your tray icons?
[11:19] <darkrift411> they are rather large and take up lots of space, id like to make em smaller if possible
[11:19] <eagles0513875> ReK_: u cant wire urself to ur connection till we get it workin
[11:20] <ReK_> not easily
[11:21] <eagles0513875> humm
[11:21] <darkrift411> thats what i had to do S:
[11:21] <ReK_> ive got the wireless troubleshooting covered, im talking with a maintainer of madwifi now
[11:21] <eagles0513875> darkrift411: what kind of wifi card u got
[11:21] <darkrift411> broadcom
[11:21] <darkrift411> 4300 i think
[11:21] <darkrift411> the pain in the ass one everyone has probs with
[11:21] <eagles0513875> ohh i got something for u then darkrift411cuz i have a 4306
[11:21] <eagles0513875> here hold up dark
[11:21] <darkrift411> mine works good though
[11:22] <eagles0513875> http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[11:22] <eagles0513875> lol they finally took the winblows driver
[11:22] <eagles0513875> converted it to c and then released it for linux
[11:22] <darkrift411> nice
[11:22] <darkrift411> i wonder if its worth the time to try it
[11:23] <darkrift411> i might not be able to go back if it doesnt work :S
[11:23] <eagles0513875> im goign to submit it to a canonical volunteer to maybe release it with gutsy
[11:23] <eagles0513875> :(
[11:23] <eagles0513875> i wish i coudl try it but cant
[11:23] <darkrift411> im still semi new
[11:24] <simmanttull> wow
[11:24] <jussi01> !netsplit
[11:24] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[11:25] <simmanttull> Gk
[11:25] <darkrift411> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)
[11:26] <eagles0513875> dark ill try it out and then let u know if it works
[11:26] <darkrift411> k
[11:27] <darkrift411> mines the 4311
[11:27] <darkrift411> based on that site you pasted me
[11:27] <eagles0513875> ok
[11:27] <TheGateKeeper> I have gone to 'Adjust Data and Time..." set it to 'London' but it still says Europe/Guuernsey how do I correct this?
[11:28] <eagles0513875> dark urs is Supported for kernel 2.6.20.6 and later
[11:28] <eagles0513875> ext4 is looking rather promising
[11:32] <darkrift411> anyone know how i kill a process i started with xchat?
[11:33] <darkrift411> if i try /exec i get an error saying a process is already started
[11:33] <simmanttull> dissapoint
[11:34] <TheGateKeeper> darkrift411: get a terminal up then killall <process>
[11:34] <darkrift411> i dont know what process it is though
[11:34] <darkrift411> i was wondering if there was an xchat command
[11:35] <darkrift411> 2.6.20-16-generic <--- seems that driver should work.... still dont wanna take a chance :S
[11:38] <eagles0513875> for me though my is supported regardless of the card version
[11:41] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[11:41] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:51] <smiley_> what packages do I have to install for flash to play. I have swiftfox
[11:54] <fritz> hy, can any1 tell me the name of a partition magic-type app for kubuntu?
[11:54] <llutz> smiley_: flashplugin-nonfree
[11:54] <fritz> i ran out of disk-space on my drive and would like to add more:)
[11:56] <Jucato> !info qtparted | fritz
[11:56] <ubotu> fritz: qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu12 (feisty), package size 206 kB, installed size 720 kB
[11:58] <AutoMatriX> Hi folks
[12:01] <smiley_> what packages do I have to install for flash to play. I have swiftfox
[12:01] <smiley_> !gnash
[12:01] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[12:02] <Jucato> !info flashplugin-nonfree | smiley_
[12:02] <ubotu> smiley_: flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[12:08] <eagles0513875> how can i clear out the internet cache of temp internet files etc
[12:09] <Jucato> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Cache
[12:13] <eagles0513875> im using firefox Jucato
[12:13] <Jucato> ok, you should  have said that you know :)
[12:14] <eagles0513875> sry im like a comp processor my mind is processing a million things at once
[12:14] <eagles0513875> right now im trying to figure out what to do with my pos internet connection
[12:14] <eagles0513875> 2mb cable connection that is giving me speeds of 56k
[12:14] <Jucato> almost all browser have an option somewhere to clear their caches
[12:15] <Jucato> eagles0513875: you know, Firefox makes it easier even :)
[12:15] <eagles0513875> i did but isnt there like a main cache where it pools everythign from all the browsers so that regardless of the browser u use u can still use the cache
[12:15] <Jucato> Tools -> Clear Private Data
[12:15] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:15] <Jucato> er no
[12:16] <Jucato> different browser = different implementations
[12:16] <drgonzo> hello al
[12:16] <drgonzo> all
[12:16] <eagles0513875> )#$*%&*@&53
[12:16] <drgonzo> I've got kontact/kmail running in the systray. Is there anyway to get it to check my mail every 10 mins or so ?
[12:16] <drgonzo> because currently it only checks when i  tell it too
[12:16] <eagles0513875> ya there is forgot how though
[12:17] <eagles0513875> oh wait im not sure in kmail i know how in evolution
[12:17] <drgonzo> yeah evolution does it. But im using kmail :)
[12:17] <Jucato> drgonzo: Settngs -> Configure KMail
[12:17] <drgonzo> btw i found the screensaver gnome uses glscreensaver too :)
[12:17] <eagles0513875> anyone here work for canonical
[12:17] <Jucato> Accounts -> Receiving tab -> Modify -.> Check interval
[12:17] <drgonzo> Jucato: i've looked in configure kmail i don't seem to see the option
[12:17] <drgonzo> ok
[12:17] <Jucato> eagles0513875: #canonical please
[12:18] <eagles0513875> ok
[12:18] <eagles0513875> ty didnt even know they had a channel
[12:18] <drgonzo> thanks
[12:18] <drgonzo>  :)
[12:18] <eagles0513875> jucato their channel has changed
[12:18] <Jucato> eagles0513875: hm.. then I don't know where. sorry
[12:18] <eagles0513875> its a private channel
[12:19] <eagles0513875> usr name and password protected
[12:19] <Ash-Fox> Bruteforce!
[12:19] <Jucato> ok. you might be better off contacting them through e-mail
[12:21] <eagles0513875> i did no response yet
[12:27] <TheGateKeeper> when I go into 'Adjust Date & Time..." and set it to london, then go back in & it reset to guernsey is this a kde bug?
[12:36] <ADiCT3D> Can someone help me install the pvr 150 intv firmware and set it up. I have tried reading the guide but its really too confusing
[12:36] <ADiCT3D> ivtv*
[12:37] <DjDarkman> Hy I instelled a new k3b from getdeb, and it`s complaining that It can`t run it`s backends with root priveleges, how do I correct this?
[12:38] <ADiCT3D> !ivtv
[12:38] <ubotu> IVTV can be installed on Edgy by following the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Edgy
[12:40] <vbgunz> anyone know how I can split vob titles/chapters?
[12:41] <john> Hello
[12:42] <icecruncher> h
[12:42] <ardchoille> vbgunz: iirc, k9copy can do that.
[12:43] <john> I've gotta problem can anyone help?
[12:43] <vbgunz> ardchoille: I'll try just about anything right now, thanks for that :)
[12:43] <pag> !ask | john
[12:43] <ubotu> john: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:43] <ardchoille> vbgunz: Are you owkring on ripping or backing up a DVD video?
[12:44] <ADiCT3D> Hey guys, How do you encode vobs, I use dvd::rip i have a sony handycam thingy that writes to dvd and i encode them but i use the dvd:rip and it encodes SOOOO slow like 6fps max anyone know how to speed this up?
[12:44] <john> Right okay then. I have Kubuntu, and I don't have administrator access. What do I do?
[12:44] <ardchoille> vbgunz: If so, there are several apps that can help with that: k9copy, xdvdshrink, acidrip, tovid and others.
[12:44] <ardchoille> !dvd
[12:44] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:44] <vbgunz> ardchoille: I have a SONY handycam. I film home movies and on Windows, I use imagemixer to convert my home movies to MPG files. I can do that here with ffmpeg no problem *but* I have no idea on how to separate titles/chapters
[12:45] <darkrift411> anyone here know about superkaramba?
[12:45] <icecruncher> yes
[12:45] <ardchoille> vbgunz: xdvdshrink can rip and seperate titles/chapters, hold on, lemme get you a link.
[12:45] <darkrift411> i have 0.41 but the site says latst is 0.39
[12:46] <darkrift411> my themes always dissapear
[12:46] <vbgunz> ardchoille: very cool, am looking at k9copy now
[12:46] <darkrift411> think it might be because im using what im guessing is a beta?
[12:46] <john> Any thoughts on my problem?
[12:46] <darkrift411> what do you need to do john?
[12:47] <ADiCT3D> ardchoille: Do you use dvd::rip?
[12:47] <darkrift411> john,
[12:47] <john> look at timestmap 11:44<john>
[12:47] <ardchoille> vbgunz: http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net/   This app comes with an installer script. Run it and it'll tell you which deps you need. install those deps from the repos and run the script again and you'll be all set. This app also shrinks dual-layer dvd (dvd9) videos down to fit on a single-layer (dvd5) dvd-/+r
[12:47] <darkrift411> dude
[12:47] <darkrift411> unless you live in my state
[12:47] <darkrift411> we have different times
[12:47] <ardchoille> ADiCT3D: I tried to use it once, too complicated :(
[12:48] <darkrift411> what the heck do you need admin for?
[12:48] <john> okay lokk at n:44
[12:48] <DarkWizzard> hello
[12:48] <vbgunz> dvdshrink works on Linux without wine?
[12:48] <ADiCT3D> ardchoille: Its not complicated though. What do you use?
[12:48] <darkrift411> dude, copy paste much?
[12:48] <DarkWizzard> does calling this-> hid() hide the app from the taskbar ?
[12:48] <john> Dude, can't
[12:48] <DarkWizzard> err
[12:48] <DarkWizzard> wrong channel again
[12:48] <darkrift411> what do you need admin for?
[12:48] <ardchoille> ADiCT3D: I use xdvdshrink http://dvdshrink.sourceforge.net/
[12:48] <john> To install updates and install apps
[12:48] <vbgunz> oh, heh
[12:48] <darkrift411> ok
[12:48] <ADiCT3D> ardchoille: Ehh i need something to encode the dvd not just compress it like dvdshrink does
[12:49] <darkrift411> if you are using command line, use sudo
[12:49] <john> whats sudo?
[12:49] <darkrift411> if not, use kdesu
[12:49] <vbgunz> ardchoille: thanks a million, hopefully one of these will save the day~!
[12:49] <darkrift411> gives you temp admin
[12:49] <vbgunz> thanks a million again!
[12:49] <darkrift411> sudo <command here>
[12:49] <darkrift411> then it asks for a password
[12:49] <darkrift411> type in your password
[12:49] <ardchoille> ADiCT3D: xdvdshrink rips dvd's, if that involves encoding then it does that too.
[12:49] <john> I have only Konsole
[12:49] <ardchoille> vbgunz: You're welcome :)
[12:49] <pag> !sudo | john
[12:49] <ubotu> john: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:49] <darkrift411> ex. sudo apt-get install <package name>
[12:50] <john> where from?
[12:50] <darkrift411> konsole
[12:50] <ADiCT3D> ardchoille: No, I need to rip then encode the vobs to avi so i can send my home movies out
[12:50] <darkrift411> example
[12:50] <darkrift411> sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:50] <darkrift411> would install firefox
[12:50] <ardchoille> ADiCT3D: fwiw, xdvdshrink consists of two shell scripts and a gui.. easy to look through the shell script and learn what it does.
[12:50] <john> where do I get sudo from
[12:50] <darkrift411> you dont get it
[12:50] <DjDarkman> how can I configure cdrecord to be able to be run with root?
[12:50] <ardchoille> ADiCT3D: Ah, ok, I think acidrip (in the repos) can do that
[12:51] <ADiCT3D> ardchoille: Acid rip encodes too slow :(
[12:51] <DjDarkman> k3b`s complaining and I can`t writght DVD`s at the right speed
[12:51] <ardchoille> Oh, ok
[12:51] <john> so is it on my system?
[12:51] <darkrift411> yes
[12:51] <mhb> DjDarkman: what release are you using?
[12:51] <john> under which folder?
[12:51] <DjDarkman> mhb: feisty fawn
[12:51] <darkrift411> you are making things difficult
[12:51] <pag> john, if you want upgrades just open konsole and type: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:51] <john> kk hold on
[12:52] <DjDarkman> Do I need to add cdrecord to the sudoers?
[12:52] <mhb> DjDarkman: no, that's not correct
[12:52] <mhb> DjDarkman: I used Feisty myself and I don't remember any such message
[12:53] <DjDarkman> mhb: I had slow wirtes, low buffer and I upgraded to a newer k3b, witch is having these issues
[12:53] <john> I'll go to fedora it'll be easier.
[12:53] <DjDarkman> cdrecord will be run without root privileges
[12:53] <DjDarkman> It is highly recommended to configure cdrecord to run with root privileges. Only then cdrecord runs with high priority which increases the overall stability of the burning process. Apart from that it allows changing the size of the used burning buffer. A lot of user problems could be solved this way. This is also true when using SuSE's resmgr.
[12:53] <super_> hey : pls i need site  web for download TCL Scripts for Xchat IRC
[12:53] <john> thanks anywho darkrift
[12:54] <DjDarkman> super_: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=Y8B&pwst=1&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=xchat+tcl+scripts&spell=1
[12:54] <DjDarkman> -.-
[12:54] <super_> thank you  bro
[12:54] <darkrift411> lol
[12:54] <DjDarkman> np
[12:54] <darkrift411> soem ppl just want to be lazy
[12:55] <super_> huhh google :p
[12:55] <mhb> DjDarkman: but if you want (it's at your own risk), you can try adding the "SUID" bit to cdrecord
[12:56] <DjDarkman> you mean modifying the binary?
[12:56] <mhb> DjDarkman: no, I mean: "sudo chmod +s /path/to/cdrecord"
[12:58] <DjDarkman> hmmm I don`t even have cdrecord, lol
[12:58] <mhb> DjDarkman: I don't have it either
[12:59] <DjDarkman> now I have it
[12:59] <DjDarkman> ok mhb thank you looks like it did the trick
[01:00] <mhb> DjDarkman: no problem; I don't know if it makes the dvds burn faster, though
[01:01] <DjDarkman> mhb: maybe not maybe yes, what do I got to loose, I lost at least 5 dvd`s already..
[01:01] <ardchoille> DjDarkman: Are you ripping dvd's?
[01:02] <DjDarkman> ardchoille: no, just writing them for myself
[01:02] <LucidFox> is it possible to substitute kde
[01:03] <LucidFox> is it possible to substitute the kdeglobals file for a particular application?
[01:04] <ardchoille> DjDarkman: You mean burning dvd's from a folder of files?
[01:07] <darkrift411> whats the default option for using alien?
[01:07] <darkrift411> i got 2 rpm packages i want to install, and i tried alien -idc packname
[01:08] <darkrift411> and not sure if it worked :S
[01:08] <fritz> does any1 know if there is a crossfade feature for amarok
[01:09] <fritz> or any other linux player?
[01:09] <lombra> dia!
[01:09] <darkrift411> dia?
[01:09] <darkrift411> ok :S
[01:09] <fritz> any1?
[01:09] <darkrift411> erm, a isnt an option
[01:09] <ardchoille> !alien | darkrift411
[01:09] <ubotu> darkrift411: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[01:09] <DexterF> hi
[01:10] <DexterF> I just wanted to create new user via sys control, tells me it can't load the module. fresh 7.04 install. pointers?
[01:10] <fritz> ,,,,?
[01:10] <ardchoille> darkrift411: Which apps are those rpm's for?
[01:10] <darkrift411> packages said they were tested on ubuntu, so im hoping it will be ok
[01:10] <darkrift411> lacie (lightscribe app)
[01:11] <fritz> -= hopping around w8ing 4 answer=- :))
[01:11] <ardchoille> darkrift411: Anyone who said they tested rpm's on Ubuntu is not following proper procedure. Using alien is dangerous.
[01:11] <darkrift411> oh
[01:11] <darkrift411> i tried rpm and it said to use alien :S
[01:12] <mike_> Greets, everyone...
[01:13] <darkrift411> how do i make rpm get the dependencies?
[01:13] <smiley_> When I start beryl-maneger my pane disapears..
[01:14] <ardchoille> darkrift411: You can't, *buntu is .deb based, using rpm's is not recommended.
[01:14] <egon_> hello :)
[01:14] <darkrift411> well jesus
[01:14] <egon_> do anyboddy play regnum-online?
[01:14] <darkrift411> the page offers only rpm, and says tested on ubuntu
[01:14] <mike_> Is anyone here very familiar with RSEIUB? I was just able to log into a TTY and restart KDM after only doing R-S-E, and I'm wondering if that could cause any problems
[01:14] <ardchoille> darkrift411: Those "tested on ubuntu" may work on one box, but cause problems on another box.. similar to what automatix does.
[01:15] <egon_> noone? :(
[01:15] <mike_> smiley_: What happens when you hit Alt+F1 (or whatever the hotkey for K Menu is, if you've changed it)?
[01:16] <fritz> does any1 know if there is a crossfade feature for amarok
[01:16] <smiley_> it opens K
[01:16] <fritz> or any other linux player?
[01:17] <smiley_> K
[01:17] <mike_> smiley_: Did you accidentally make the panel transparent? (Try Alt+Scrollwheel over where the panel should be)
[01:17] <mathieu_> wow
[01:17] <mathieu_> test?
[01:17] <mike_> fritz: There is
[01:18] <mathieu_> everything suddenly stopped working
[01:18] <fritz> in amarok
[01:18] <fritz> mike?
[01:18] <mathieu_> complaining about a read-only file system
[01:18] <mike_> fritz: It's in Amarok's settings, pretty easy to find. ;-)
[01:18] <mathieu_> df segfaults
[01:19] <darkrift411> is there an option for rpm to install dependancies?
[01:19] <darkrift411> or to ignore them?
[01:19] <fritz> thnx mike:)
[01:19] <fritz> didn't bother 2 look in settings
[01:19] <mike_> darkrift411: You could try Alien. It's said that's a risky procedure, but I've never had problems with it.
[01:19] <mike_> !worksforme
[01:19] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:19] <darkrift411> lol
[01:19] <fritz> silly me:)
[01:19] <mike_> fritz: NP :)
[01:19] <sweettooth> hey anyone knows how to install real player for use in firefox? i checked this page http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Multimedia_Player_.28RealPlayer_10.29 , but apparently plf repository does not seem to have the package
[01:20] <darkrift411> i could try it, but since its "risky" i cant find out how to use it properly
[01:20] <darkrift411> i got a bunch of chown errors on one package
[01:20] <darkrift411> chown: `:wheel': invalid group
[01:20] <darkrift411> chown: `:wheel': invalid group
[01:20] <darkrift411> those over and over
[01:20] <mike_> sweettooth: Medibuntu has it - www.medibuntu.org
[01:21] <mike_> sweettooth: Hopefully you haven't already tried installing it with the binary installer? (realplayer.run, or something like that)
[01:21] <sweettooth> mike_, no i havent
[01:22] <sweettooth> mike_, i only tried to add the repository using that ubuntu guide
[01:22] <mike_> sweettooth: Lucky you. I had done that once - it worked, but it scattered its crap ALL OVER my system and there's no way to uninstall it.
[01:22] <sweettooth> mike_, i think i have already added the repository though
[01:23] <mike_> sweettooth: The Medibuntu repository?
[01:23] <sweettooth> Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/universe Packages
[01:23] <sweettooth> Hit http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/multiverse Packages
[01:23] <sweettooth> Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org feisty/free Packages
[01:23] <sweettooth> Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org feisty/non-free Packages
[01:23] <sweettooth> that's from apt-get update
[01:23] <mike_> sweettooth: Use the pastebin - paste.ubuntu-nl.org ;-)
[01:23] <sweettooth> yes, my apology
[01:23] <sweettooth> heh
[01:24] <mike_> Np
[01:24] <mike_> sweettooth: Does it succeed in retrieving the package lists for those repositories?
[01:24] <ardchoille> darkrift411: That's why using alien is risky, it can make system changes that can break things. The wheel group used to be used as the admin group a while back, not sure if anyone still does that trick or not.
[01:25] <sweettooth> i think so, it was doing sth earlier on
[01:25] <darkrift411> lol
[01:25] <darkrift411> so lightscribe in kubuntu is a no go
[01:25] <darkrift411> gotta love it
[01:25] <darkrift411> odd thing is
[01:25] <lucky_lucas> hi, need help about a noisy bell
[01:25] <darkrift411> someone in here pointed me to lacie
[01:25] <elbing> I've got an i845G with i810 module loaded. I need direct rendering and I read around google that it's possible but I don't know how to do it. Could anyone give some clue?
[01:25] <sweettooth> mike_, that's what i got earlier on
[01:25] <sweettooth> Hit http://packages.medibuntu.org feisty/non-free Packages
[01:25] <sweettooth> Fetched 193B in 0s (273B/s)
[01:25] <ardchoille> darkrift411: What does lightscribe do exactly? Is there another app that can do the same thing?
[01:26] <lucky_lucas> when I increase decrease the sound, I got the bell destroying my ears
[01:26] <darkrift411> uses the cd burner laser to etch images on the back of cd's
[01:26] <darkrift411> lacie is the "other app"
[01:26] <darkrift411> lightscribe is the name of the technology
[01:26] <mike_> sweettooth: What's it show when you type "sudo apt-get install realplayer"?
[01:26] <darkrift411> lacie 4l is the linux version of the lightscribe writer
[01:26] <lucky_lucas> any clue ?
[01:27] <sweettooth> i got sth in the first time
[01:27] <ardchoille> darkrift411: Well, the safe way to manage apps is to either use the apps in the repos, find a .deb that was made for Ubuntu or compile. It's never a good thing to use packages made for other distros.
[01:27] <sweettooth> mike_, check this out
[01:27] <sweettooth> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27607/
[01:28] <TheGateKeeper> just installed wengophone, dialed a test call number & it thinks my sound card is blocked, yet all other sound apps are ok, any ideas folks?
[01:28] <mike_> sweettooth: Hmm... One sec...
[01:28] <sweettooth> mike_, but now i get this, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27608/
[01:29] <mike_> Ohhh...
[01:29] <mike_> sweettooth: sudo apt-get install helix-player
[01:30] <mike_> sweettooth: That should be all you need, I think
[01:31] <sweettooth> mike_, ok i will have a go, cheers m8
[01:32] <mike_> Good luck
[01:33] <mike_> Is anyone here very knowledgeable about the Alt+SysRq commands?
[01:34] <gemidjy> what is the name of this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPowerManagementFeedback actually and can I use it with other distros ?
[01:36] <mike_> gemidjy: I think the package for it is "kde-guidance-applet" - but I honestly can't see why you'd want to use it (or why it's the default power management applet, for that matter). KPowerManager is much better. :-)
[01:37] <gemidjy> mike_: whatever else than KLaptop
[01:37] <gemidjy> :)
[01:37] <alkis> hello :)
[01:37] <mike_> Hehe
[01:37] <mike_> gemidjy: Oh, I see. Which distro are you using?
[01:38] <gemidjy> mike_: archlinux from today :) was Kubuntu user so far, Kubuntu is very good distro, I just find arch more suiting for me
[01:38] <mike_> That's cool.
[01:38] <gemidjy> me neither I like all distros :)
[01:39] <gemidjy> however, Kpowermanager, did u mean Kpowersave? can't find kpowermanager :/
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> but like kubuntu too
[01:39] <mike_> gemidjy: Whoops, that's the one.
[01:39] <mike_> Heh, sorry
[01:39] <gemidjy> mike_: :) ok
[01:53] <KomiaPoika> help. when i launch k3b and try to burn a downloaded iso, it says: no mimetypes installed!
[02:03] <joerg> hi Leute
[02:03] <joerg> nen fetten Gru ausm Ruhrgebiet
[02:03] <alkis> guys, which is the default root password for kubuntu?
[02:03] <alkis> installation didnt ask me to put one.
[02:04] <joerg> it is the same as your password at the beginning
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> alkis: kubuntu uses sudo
[02:04] <alkis> says authentication failed
[02:04] <joerg> when you tip in your id
[02:04] <KomiaPoika> alkis: you have to sudo su and then hit 'passwd' to set a password for root, it is disable by default
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> alkis: if you want root, do "sudo passwd woot"
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> *root
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> and enter your password
[02:05] <alkis> ah i see fixed it now
[02:05] <alkis> thanks :))
[02:05] <joerg> guys where do you come from?
[02:05] <jussi01> !sudo
[02:05] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:08] <lanboy> hello
[02:08] <lanboy> cant someone help me
[02:08] <zach> Does anyone here know of a Qt-based browser that used the Gecko rendering engine?
[02:09] <lanboy> *can
[02:09] <zach> What's the problem lanboy?
[02:09] <lanboy> well you know how in windows commant prompt you can type net view
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> zach: hmm nope.
[02:09] <lanboy> and see who's on your workgroup
[02:09] <lanboy> how i do somethinglike that in feisty?
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> lanboy: like what other computer are on your netowrk?
[02:10] <zach> lanboy: Umm... Not really. Never used the command line in my Windows days, sorry. :-\
[02:10] <lanboy> yeah
[02:10] <lanboy> so i can then ping and find ip
[02:10] <lanboy> or do you know any other ways
[02:10] <lanboy> so i can find local network ip#s
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> lanboy: no idea. I just run ifconfig on them when I want to know their ip
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> they're windows computers tho, right?
[02:11] <lanboy> their ip?
[02:11] <lanboy> yeah
[02:11] <lanboy> from 98 to vista
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> I think you can go through network settings on them and see their IP.
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> when I connect to a wireless hotspot, it tells me the IP if I hover my mouse over the icon
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> soo... maybe if its wired you can do the same thing
[02:12] <lanboy> i wanna find an ip on my network so i can remote access it basicly
[02:13] <zach> lanboy: As in, for file-sharing and the like?
[02:13] <lanboy> no no remote access
[02:13] <zach> Oh ok
[02:13] <smiley_> I have berly manager .. i run him and  switch from KWin to Beryl.. and panels dissapered.
[02:14] <smiley_> any ideas?
[02:14] <icecruncher> smiley_: to many workspaces?
[02:14] <snip_> pheraps the panel have transparency ?
[02:14] <smiley_> no not that...
[02:15] <zach> smiley_: Hit Alt+F2, type "konsole" and press Enter, then type "kicker" and press enter. If your panel reappears, something (strange) is causing Beryl to kill Kicker
[02:16] <snip_> I have this problem, and I've solved when I've disable the transparency of kicker.
[02:16] <zach> Come to think of it, I think I've had that happen once or twice, but that's about it. Wasn't frequent enough to bother troubleshooting it.
[02:17] <smiley_> am.. what can i do for now ?
[02:17] <smiley_> the kickers dissapered.
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> I have two transparent panels and neither dissappear when I leave beryl
[02:17] <zach> smiley_: What happened when you ran kicker from Konsole?
[02:17] <snip_> I've a singolar problem with kicker (I' think that), when I press ALT+F2 and type in the box "konsole", apprear UXTERM ... not konsole program.
[02:17] <jussi01> smiley_: probably better asking in #ubuntu-effects
[02:18] <LucidFox> how do I disable the sidebar in Kaffeine?
[02:18] <smiley_> bash: kickers: command not found
[02:18] <smiley_> zach: bash: kickers: command not found
[02:18] <zach> smiley - "kicker"
[02:18] <snip_> kicker
[02:19] <smiley_> ERROR: kicker is already running!
[02:19] <smiley_> and nothing happend.
[02:19] <snip_> anyone know why ALT+F2 and "konsole" ... appear uxterm instead of konsole ?
[02:19] <zach> smiley_: And when you hit Alt+F1?
[02:19] <snip_> What I've to change ?
[02:19] <smiley_> K opens
[02:20] <zach> snip_: Might have a look at Konsole's entry in KMenuEdit. Beyond that, I have no idea.
[02:20] <zach> smiley_: Try this...
[02:21] <snip_> thank's!
[02:21] <zach> Open Beryl Settings Manager, go to Window Management at the top, then Set Window Attribs by Various Criteria...
[02:21] <smiley_> and.
[02:21] <smiley_> ?
[02:22] <ADiCT3D> Can someone point me to a fast encoding program for linux that allows me to specify file sizes and uses XviD?
[02:22] <zach> smiley_: Make sure the box for that is checked, and under Window Opacity, add an entry for Kicker (I'd assume you can do Window Class or Window Title for this) giving it 100% absolute transparency...
[02:23] <snip_> I've 2 entry named "Konsole", the first is "konsole (Uxterm)" the second is "Terminal program (konsole".
[02:23] <snip_> pheraps this is the problem.
[02:23] <snip_> when I launch konsole, the kde whatch the first.
[02:23] <snip_> :-)
[02:23] <zach> smiley_: So the new entry should look like this: t:Kicker:100! (you can edit it manually by clicking the entry after you've set it in the pop-up dialog)
[02:25] <zach> smiley_: Anything?
[02:25] <smiley_> wait ..
[02:26] <msetim> Hi guys
[02:26] <msetim> somebody have sources to win32codecs to amd64?
[02:27] <LucidFox> msetim> why do you need win32codecs?
[02:27] <LucidFox> more likely than not, you don;t
[02:27] <ADiCT3D> Use VLC
[02:28] <msetim> msetim: because some videos are in media player format
[02:28] <msetim> ADiCT3D:
[02:28] <ADiCT3D> ?
[02:29] <zach> snip_: Is Konsole coming up properly now?
[02:29] <msetim> ADiCT3D: sorry, The VLC solve my problem with any type of codecs ( win codecs )?
[02:29] <ADiCT3D> msetim:I dont uderstand what your saying
[02:30] <ADiCT3D> understand*
[02:30] <zach> msetim: Can't speak from experience, but from what I've read, it should
[02:31] <smiley_> zach: i do like u tell me, may i need to restart PC ?
[02:32] <zach> smiley_: No. You almost never need to restart your PC in Linux ;-)
[02:32] <msetim> ADiCT3D: When I'read you message "use VLC" I guess that you are saying to me use the VLC to play my videos that have w32codecs. My doubt is if it really play all types of win codecs.
[02:32] <zach> smiley_: Run this command: "beryl --replace &"
[02:32] <smiley_> ..ok xD
[02:32] <ADiCT3D> msetim:It should mine has it all built into VLC
[02:32] <msetim> zach: I will test it :-D
[02:33] <zach> ADiCT3D: So I'm guessing with VLC, you don't have to install ANY additional codecs?
[02:34] <zach> ADiCT3D: Does VLC do RealMedia/RealAudio also?
[02:34] <ADiCT3D> zach: Idk i didnt build it
[02:34] <smiley_> zach: there a no kicker on windows
[02:34] <ADiCT3D> zach real media support sucks for every app including real play get the free real player
[02:34] <zach> smiley_: ?
[02:35] <zach> ADiCT3D: You mean Helix, right?
[02:35] <smiley_> i run beryl manager and .. same like first time
[02:35] <ADiCT3D> zach: No.
[02:35] <ADiCT3D> Can someone point me to a fast encoding program for linux that allows me to specify file sizes and uses XviD?
[02:36] <zach> ADiCT3D: Have you tried Avidemux? Not sure if it does what you need, but it might be worth a shot.
[02:37] <zach> smiley_: And when you scroll-wheel up while holding Alt where the panel should be, still nothing?
[02:37] <ADiCT3D> zach: i'm compiling the 2.4 preview as we speak ive also compiled XviD CVS but the last vers was encoding too slow, 4-6fps
[02:37] <smiley_> nothing
[02:37] <smiley_> :S
[02:38] <ADiCT3D> zach: i used Handbrake but i dont like how it grabs off the dvd and doesnt cache..terminal only too
[02:38] <zach> smiley_: What about if you right-click where your panel should be?
[02:40] <zach> smiley_: Copy and paste the line you added to the Set Window Attribs... section
[02:42] <smiley_> c:kicker:100
[02:42] <zach> smiley_: Try changing it to "t:Kicker:100!" then Alt+F2 -> "beryl --replace &" again
[02:43] <zach> (note the exclamation mark)
[02:46] <smiley_> nad then ?
[02:46] <smiley_> and*
[02:46] <zach> I'm out of ideas, sorry. :-/
[02:46] <smiley_> thank u anyway.
[02:46] <zach> Try #desktop-effects - someone there might be able to help
[02:46] <zach> No problem
[02:47] <nimble> anyone know why my external hard drive auto mounts fine when using the livecd but not when installed?
[02:47] <nimble> my flash drive automounts fine in both :-/
[02:48] <zach> nimble: Did you set it to be mounted when you installed?
[02:48] <nimble> nope
[02:50] <zach> nimble: You might check in the Disk & Filesystems section of System Settings when it's plugged in and see if you can set it to automount from there. Not too sure though, as I've never used a USB HD
[02:51] <flake> why would my trash icon not be working on my panel
[02:52] <nimble> i dont think you can get stuff to automount (the way usb flash drives do) in there
[02:52] <flake> it's pointing to trash:/  instead of .Trash  ?
[02:52] <nimble> thanks anyway
[02:53] <flake> right-click and moves to trash I guess moves it to ~/.Trash
[02:56] <kraut> moin
[02:56] <flake> heh, when I changed location of trash:/ to /home/myname/.Trash  and right-click send to trash, it sent it to my panel icon pointing to trash:/ and showed up
[02:58] <The_Machine> Could someone give me a hand?  Getting this error:  Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[02:58] <The_Machine> this is after i installed some updates using adept and i'm trying to launch adept again
[02:59] <eagles0513875> now my isp is using the excuse that they have pinged my modem and they were not getting any response from my machine. what is the default firewall and how can i change the settings
[02:59] <Lamington> The_Machine: check in KsysGuard to see if Adept or apt is still running
[02:59] <eagles0513875> and also is there any antispyware pkg that i can download
[03:00] <The_Machine> i did, i didn't see anything :/
[03:00] <ADiCT3D> eagles0513875 You dont need anti-spyware on linux
[03:00] <eagles0513875> let me show u what their support said on the email
[03:01] <The_Machine> haha
[03:01] <ADiCT3D> eagles0513875 what ISP are you on?
[03:01] <eagles0513875> ADiCT3D: how can i tweak the firewall settings
[03:01] <eagles0513875> of the default firewall
[03:02] <ADiCT3D> eagles0513875 what ISP are you on?
[03:02] <Lamington> The_Machine: hmm If it said another process is using it atm then that is correct... trick is to find out what is, or just wait till the process is finished
[03:03] <Lamington> Im not sure kubuntu does a ping reply by default... but that wont affect you internet access
[03:04] <eagles0513875> this is what they said in the email
[03:04] <eagles0513875> I am sending signals to your modem and the modem is sending me back the signals. This means that internet connection between Onvol and your Modem is established. When I am sending signals to your IP Address; in simple words to your computer the signals are not returned back. It is giving me Request Timed Out. Security Programs such like Firewall / Internet security or Antivirus can limit your internet connection and making it running slow. Spy
[03:04] <eagles0513875> ware may also be the cause of internet connection speed. If you have spy ware, spy ware will absorb most of the internet connection and you will have slow connection speed. It would be a good thing if you scan your computer with an anti  spy ware. If you have spy ware on your computer the Anti  Spy ware would be able to remove them from your computer. Just in case from my side I have reset your cable modem connection. This may help out the
[03:04] <eagles0513875> internet connection to run faster.
[03:05] <ADiCT3D> dude use pastebin.com to paste huge things
[03:05] <eagles0513875> sry i forgot
[03:05] <eagles0513875> this issue has had me really pissed off for a while now
[03:06] <The_Machine> so, your firewall is on.
[03:06] <Lamington> eagles0513875: it aint spyware ;)
[03:06] <The_Machine> Lamington is right.
[03:06] <ADiCT3D> eagles0513875: Who is your ISP???
[03:07] <eagles0513875> im in malta its called onvol
[03:07] <eagles0513875> the website is onvol.net
[03:07] <eagles0513875> lol its an island 60miles south of scicily in the mediterranean sea
[03:07] <ADiCT3D> ohhh yeah
[03:07] <ADiCT3D> cool
[03:08] <Lamington> Malta is a nice place
[03:08] <The_Machine> wow
[03:08] <eagles0513875> u heard of it lamington
[03:08] <Lamington> yea
[03:08] <The_Machine> how the hell do you have internet?
[03:08] <ADiCT3D> I have too
[03:08] <The_Machine> just looked it up on a map
[03:08] <The_Machine> is it satellite?!
[03:08] <ADiCT3D> no
[03:08] <ADiCT3D> dialup
[03:08] <eagles0513875> no its cable
[03:08] <The_Machine> heh
[03:08] <eagles0513875> cable
[03:08] <ADiCT3D> o rlly
[03:08] <eagles0513875> i have a cable modem
[03:08] <ADiCT3D> cool
[03:08] <The_Machine> sweet :)  LOL
[03:08] <Lamington> lol
[03:08] <Lamington> Im on cable as well
[03:08] <eagles0513875> and its hot as hell damn heat wave
[03:08] <ADiCT3D> im on oc3
[03:08] <eagles0513875> !language
[03:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:08] <eagles0513875> hat is oc3
[03:08] <The_Machine> what is the speeds you're paying for?
[03:08] <eagles0513875> 2mbps
[03:08] <jussi01> !offtopic
[03:08] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:08] <The_Machine> gotcha
[03:09] <ADiCT3D> eagles:Fiber Internet
[03:09] <eagles0513875> nice
[03:09] <eagles0513875> its 2mbps
[03:09] <eagles0513875> and i didn mtr to archive.ubuntu.com and its showing that a seabone connection is having huge packet loss
[03:10] <eagles0513875> 80-90%
[03:11] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: yep, same here
[03:11] <eagles0513875> ice where r u located
[03:11] <icecruncher> eagles0513875; althoug 10.122.50.250 is having the larget loss 50% constant
[03:11] <icecruncher> thailand
[03:12] <eagles0513875> what can i do to fix my slow connection
[03:12] <Lamington> eagles0513875: I am also on cable and I have no problems with kubuntu...
[03:12] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: you mean connection ingenerla or ubuntu update?
[03:13] <icecruncher> * in general
[03:13] <eagles0513875> right now im tryign to download gutsy tribe 2 updates
[03:13] <eagles0513875> and i was also tryign to download the iso for gutsy
[03:13] <eagles0513875> and either thing i do im getting really crap speeds
[03:13] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: k, if it where on a different mirror, I'd say change, but...
[03:14] <monfis> som tu jacy polacy
[03:14] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: get downthemall firefox extension, speeds up a bit
[03:14] <eagles0513875> i used sourceomatic to get the gutsy repositories
[03:14] <icecruncher> k
[03:15] <eagles0513875> i think i might just reinstall feisty
[03:15] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, the source site might be very busy hence ther servers are slowed down giviving what appears to be a slow connection
[03:15] <icecruncher> !pl | monfis
[03:15] <ubotu> monfis: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[03:15] <Lamington> eagles0513875: is everything slow ?
[03:15] <eagles0513875> yes
[03:15] <eagles0513875> even webpgs i try to go to
[03:15] <monfis> skont pobra linux-686-64
[03:16] <eagles0513875> monfis: english only plz
[03:16] <monfis> [15:16]  [474]  #ubuntu-pl You're banned from that channel
[03:16] <icecruncher> Lamington: when doing an mtr to archives.ubuntu.com; 10.122.50.250 shows a constant 45-50% package loss
[03:16] <eagles0513875> ice for me though its a seabone
[03:16] <eagles0513875> between this island and italy
[03:16] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: lol
[03:17] <icecruncher> must be the heat, and servers down
[03:17] <icecruncher> :)
[03:17] <eagles0513875> is a seabone a fibre optic cable
[03:17] <eagles0513875> im wondering if a dns server is offline
[03:17] <jeroen69> help
[03:17] <Lamington> hmm I can't see how kubuntu might be responsible for this problem
[03:17] <Lamington> Faulty modem ? ISP full of BS ?
[03:17] <jeroen69> I installed kubuntu and I had normal sound the first time, but now all sounds just hangs
[03:17] <icecruncher> also the servers in france are very slow
[03:17] <eagles0513875> could a dns server be the problem
[03:18] <eagles0513875> up until yesterday i didnt have thsi problem
[03:18] <eagles0513875> this happened yesterday all day
[03:18] <eagles0513875> and persisting today
[03:18] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: blame it on the heat!
[03:18] <eagles0513875> im downloading aegis to see if it finds anything
[03:18] <Lamington> eagles0513875: ah ok... did you do anything at all that might have caused this problem ?
[03:18] <eagles0513875> no
[03:18] <eagles0513875> f it im just going to reinstall
[03:19] <Lamington> eagles0513875: It doesnt sound to me like kubuntu is the cause of the problem
[03:19] <eagles0513875> can someone ping my ip address
[03:19] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, could be your ISP, if you haven't done kubuntu upgrades , then that's prolly the problem
[03:19] <eagles0513875> i was using the kubuntu feisty beta i had and updated those pkgs i think its something i installed
[03:19] <monfis> polacy proszeni na #kubuntu-pl
[03:20] <eagles0513875> or wait
[03:20] <eagles0513875> could it be since i removed the feisty repositories from the source list
[03:20] <eagles0513875> should i lave those in there
[03:20] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: I'm pinging you fine
[03:20] <eagles0513875> r u getting a response
[03:21] <icecruncher> yes
[03:21] <icecruncher> 11% pak loss
[03:21] <eagles0513875> and also should i leave the feisty repositories in addition to adding the gutsy repositories
[03:21] <eagles0513875> thats not that bad
[03:22] <eagles0513875> im going to add the feisty repositories back into the source list and see if that helps
[03:22] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[03:22] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:22] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875 are you running gutsy?
[03:23] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: it's this with hufge losses so it must be some problem with this and the next one10.122.50.250
[03:24] <eagles0513875> no im trying to update to it
[03:24] <eagles0513875> so i can test it for bugs
[03:24] <eagles0513875> but now its been officially released
[03:24] <eagles0513875> my gateway is working fine
[03:26] <BluesKaj> still have the heatwave there? If you still do then the ISP server farm may have had to pull some off line in order to help cooling
[03:28] <eagles0513875> im going to email them again
[03:28] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: most likely, my mtr to europe show huge packet losses
[03:29] <eagles0513875> dude but from where i am in the med im showing huge pkt loss to the main land
[03:30] <BluesKaj> icecruncher, I saw reports of brownouts in italy and greece due to the huge power demands of the air condidtioning systems in the cities
[03:30] <icecruncher> wow
[03:30] <icecruncher> flooding in england though! :)
[03:30] <eagles0513875> there have been some here in malta
[03:30] <eagles0513875> too
[03:30] <eagles0513875> but lucky not where i live
[03:30] <eagles0513875> ya
[03:31] <dcorbin_> I just installed ftpd.  It had no problems.  I would have expected to find something /etc/init.d.  Am I wrong?
[03:32] <eagles0513875> dcorbin just count ur blessings lol that u didnt have any problems
[03:32] <eagles0513875> im going to reinstall guys
[03:32] <eagles0513875> ty for all ur input
[03:32] <dcorbin_> eagles0513875: well, there is a problem, just not a failure.
[03:32] <dcorbin_> or error
[03:33] <eagles0513875> they guys here will help ya i got to do a clean install yet again lol
[03:33] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, why?
[03:33] <eagles0513875> guys just wish me luck that it fixes my error
[03:33] <eagles0513875> really slow internet
[03:33] <BluesKaj> that's not going to fix slow internet. eagles0513875
[03:34] <eagles0513875> i emailed support and they said they pinged my modem and they got no reponse back saying that it was saying request timed out
[03:34] <eagles0513875> and i just emailed them again saying that im on a linux based machine and also told them bout one of their seabones having huge packet loss
[03:34] <BluesKaj> then check the modem
[03:34] <eagles0513875> what else can i do blue
[03:34] <eagles0513875> what do i need to do
[03:34] <eagles0513875> ive unplugged it plugged it back in after 30sec
[03:35] <icecruncher> been reading some news, glad not to be there
[03:35] <BluesKaj> make sure you have the right drivers
[03:35] <eagles0513875> drivers of what
[03:35] <eagles0513875> this slow connection started happening yesterday
[03:35] <BluesKaj> your ethernet card
[03:35] <eagles0513875> i am honestly thinking it has something to do with me and gutsy
[03:35] <BluesKaj> did you upgrade yesterday
[03:35] <BluesKaj> ?
[03:35] <eagles0513875> tried to
[03:36] <eagles0513875> yesterday was when it started getting slow
[03:36] <eagles0513875> all ive been dowing is slowly downloading the pkgs in adept lol
[03:36] <BluesKaj> had you upgraded previously to the slowdown?
[03:36] <eagles0513875> yes
[03:37] <eagles0513875> when i installed
[03:37] <eagles0513875> i used my feisty beta x86_64 cd i had
[03:37] <eagles0513875> so after i installed it i ran dist-upgrade to upgrade kernel and everythign else that had to be upgraded
[03:37] <BluesKaj> then it's prolly new drivers needed for your ethernet card
[03:38] <eagles0513875> its not only on my comp though
[03:38] <eagles0513875> i tried my cousins comp last night and it was slow too
[03:40] <eagles0513875> would it hurt to try reinstall
[03:40] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: nah blame the heat lol
[03:40] <BluesKaj> gawd
[03:40] <eagles0513875> i sent them another email saying not to give me the bs of it being spyware
[03:41] <eagles0513875> on my cousins comp i know bout spyware and i take adequate steps to protect my machien from spyware as well as viruses
[03:42] <BluesKaj> uhmm, spyware is writtren for windows
[03:42] <eagles0513875> i know
[03:42] <eagles0513875> im saying my cousins windows machine is slow too but i have protection against that stuff and viruses
[03:43] <dewitt> how can i remove my email from list
[03:43] <eagles0513875> im just going to reinstall
[03:43] <eagles0513875> i bet u i installed something wrong
[03:44] <eagles0513875> be back in a lil bit guys
[03:46] <zengor> hi guys
[03:46] <zengor> where do i find repositor for my kubuntu 7.04??
[03:46] <mat1980> !repository
[03:46] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:47] <zengor> thx
[03:51] <hasan> hi guys
[03:51] <hasan> is there a command to show my workgroup in network
[03:51] <hasan> and change it from konsole?
[03:51] <hasan> like hostname command
[03:53] <dromer> what do I do with an Error 15 from grub?
[04:01] <zeroc00l> wow this is my first time with Kubuntu, after a very long period with Ubuntu and I must admit that KDE is much, I don't know how to say, but is much trendy
[04:02] <BluesKaj> trendy ? easier to use and understand for former windows users like me , but trendy ..... ?
[04:04] <BluesKaj> dromer, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:04] <samy> Hi
[04:04] <samy> hello
[04:05] <samy> ?????
[04:05] <zeroc00l> yeah trendy, GNOME is very user-friendly and with an interface that limit the human error, you can customize GNOME but not as deep as KDE
[04:05] <BluesKaj> !ask | samy
[04:05] <ubotu> samy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:05] <samy> ok
[04:06] <samy> how i can get amsn
[04:06] <samy> ??
[04:06] <Tm_T> !info amsn
[04:06] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96+dfsg1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 2488 kB, installed size 9108 kB
[04:06] <BluesKaj> well, there are those who would argue about which is the better desktop/interface , but to most it's just a matter of taste.
[04:06] <Tm_T> samy: check "add/remove programs"
[04:07] <zeroc00l> samy: what is your version?
[04:07] <samy> ook aand after
[04:07] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: yeah, like to me GNOME is nightmare, but I still recommend it to many
[04:07] <Tm_T> samy: search amsn
[04:07] <samy> i did
[04:07] <samy> after?
[04:07] <zeroc00l> samy: I mean Feisty, Edgy, Dapper or something else ....
[04:08] <samy> ok thanks
[04:08] <BluesKaj> I just don't like the look and feel of gnome personally ,yet I'm not an eye candy type person
[04:08] <samy> good bye
[04:08] <aleksanteri> i think gnome is ugly by default yet you can make it look nice with a few elements from gnome-look.org
[04:08] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[04:08] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:09] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, is the offtopic cop for today :)
[04:09] <Tm_T> haha
[04:09] <aleksanteri> lol
[04:09] <aleksanteri> :-)
[04:10] <dromer> BluesKaj: it's not from windows
[04:10] <zeroc00l> BluesKaj, aleksanteri: GNOME is not ugly it's intended to be user-friendly, but customizable with some click here and there and after this you can obtain something of pretty much better
[04:10] <dromer> BluesKaj: the problem is also that I'm using a chrooted usb-disk :#
[04:11] <aleksanteri> zeroc00l: well it's my opinion and that's yours
[04:11] <BluesKaj> chroooted ? why>
[04:11] <zeroc00l> but in case of KDE here you can customize everything from the single button to the entire system, wow that's amusing
[04:12] <dromer> BluesKaj: I did a debootstrap of a minimal debian Etch, for this ancient laptop of mine, it has no floppy or cdrom, and I hate having to reboot to install something
[04:12] <enry> hello
[04:12] <zeroc00l> aleksanderi: I'm not saying that this is much better than that, but the differencies in my opinion is just usability and easiness, I reccomend GNOME for a migrating user, is more simple, than KDE for a veteran user
[04:13] <Tm_T> zeroc00l: my last comment on this, GNOME just doesn't offer customisation I need, yes, need
[04:13] <BluesKaj> separate drives is a problem I have very little knowledge about , but error 15 is usually generated by the fstab file having erroneuos entries
[04:13] <mcmurdo> i dont know how 2 config ruby on rails
[04:14] <zeroc00l> to all: excuse me for my english
[04:14] <tu_> hello all
[04:15] <tu_> i wanna install ubuntu as dual boot with XP which OS do i install first?
[04:15] <zeroc00l> tu_: xp first and then ubuntu, it will reveal the partition with XP and GRUB will be configured to dual boot
[04:15] <mcmurdo> maybe u can install win grub
[04:16] <tu_> ok thank you
[04:16] <BluesKaj> dromer, I had the same prob a week or so ago after an adept pkg upgrade (big mistake)
[04:17] <mcmurdo> who knows to config ruby on rails
[04:17] <zeroc00l> So guys there's somebody out there that can help me with the config of an internet shared connection with Linux?
[04:18] <Tm_T> zeroc00l: what exactly you need?
[04:18] <Tm_T> I mean, what kind of share?
[04:18] <clintc> my sidebar is on the left, I hid my kicker panel to the left, now I can't click the unhide icon because it is covered by the sidebar, any way out?
[04:19] <Tm_T> clintc: move sidebar?
[04:19] <clintc> Tm_T: seems stuck and does not want to move
[04:20] <BluesKaj> dromer,had to rewrite the fstab file, with help ,but your situation is less straightforward and very restricted so dunno ,... perhaps one of the more experienced guys can help you..... Tm_T ?
[04:20] <Tm_T> clintc: ok, open systemsettings and search panel settings
[04:20] <dromer> BluesKaj: hope so yeah
[04:20] <Tm_T> dromer: yes?
[04:20] <zeroc00l> Tm_T: I explain: I have a pc connected to internet with a damned USB modem, and then it's connected to a wireless router that serves all my other PCs, in this moment I have Winzozz running with the shared connection that serves my PCs, but I want config this in Ubuntu and mmmmh after a couple of tutorials I didn't....
[04:21] <dromer> Tm_T: grub-install to chrooted usb-disk ..
[04:21] <clintc> Tm_T:  I would if I could get to them.. a command line way perhaps? all that stuff is in the kicker panel that I can't get to
[04:21] <Tm_T> dromer: hum, no idea
[04:21] <Tm_T> clintc: well, hit alt+f2 and run "systemsettings"
[04:22] <Tm_T> clintc: nothing is dependent from one source, that would be huge flaw
[04:23] <clintc> Tm_T: thanks! now that I have access to the system settings I think I'll be able to turn it off
[04:23] <Tm_T> clintc: heh
[04:26] <clintc> Tm_T: any idea where the setting might be for turning off the sidebar, I'm not finding it
[04:26] <_Robbe_> is it normal that I can do more from the start with ubuntu, than with kubuntu ?
[04:27] <Tm_T> clintc: used search?
[04:28] <Tm_T> _Robbe_: what you mean by "more" ?
[04:28] <_Robbe_> meaning that ubuntu also detectets and reads the local ntfs, while kubuntu only allows that for "the pc next door"
[04:29] <Tm_T> _Robbe_: hum? you're sure?
[04:29] <_Robbe_> as sure as it gets
[04:29] <Tm_T> !ntfs-3g
[04:29] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:29] <clintc> Tm_T: yes, I've searched through all the "Look and Feel" settings which where I would think it should be... "I've lost my kicker and I can't compute"
[04:30] <_Robbe_> I know, I've to use it with kubuntu, but ubuntu already loads them for me from the start
[04:30] <icecruncher> why can my other computer connect to a computer on a network, but not to the router and the internet/
[04:30] <Tm_T> clintc: hum, it's in desktop
[04:30] <icecruncher> ?
[04:30] <Tm_T> _Robbe_: it works straight away, or should
[04:30] <_Robbe_> icecruncher : you do have shares ?
[04:31] <_Robbe_> Tm_T : in ubuntu it seems to do so, in kubuntu ... not completely sadly
[04:31] <icecruncher> _Robbe_: no, this is a straight out of the box install on the laptop ith problems, but the other comp has a server running
[04:31] <Tm_T> zeroc00l: I use Firestarter for firewall, there's also switch "share network connection" so that might be all you need
[04:31] <Tm_T> _Robbe_: did you try "media:/" in Konqueror?
[04:31] <clintc> Tm_T: that would be logical but alas I see no setting that will make the magical sidebar disappear
[04:31] <zeroc00l> Tm_T: thanks I'll test this solution, I hope that functions because I don't want no more use Windows
[04:31] <Tm_T> _Robbe_: only reason that wouldn't work is that Konqi hides disk partitions somehow
[04:32] <Tm_T> clintc: move it then
[04:33] <icecruncher> _Robbe_: pinging the  comp works, but router wont respond
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> got nothing last night, but we'll try this again.  anyone familiar with usenet software in linux?
[04:33] <_Robbe_> Tm_T : that one only showed the neighbouring pc, and some usb drives
[04:33] <clintc> Tm_T: I would love to move it... but there is no apparent way to do that... truly, I'm smarter than I appear in this medium
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> klibido is junk
[04:33] <Tm_T> _Robbe_: see my last comment on that, and dunno why should it do that
[04:34] <Tm_T> clintc: hrr, sidebar is that panel thingy?
[04:34] <clintc> yes
[04:34] <Tm_T> clintc: so can't you move kicker then?
[04:34] <clintc> right
[04:34] <Tm_T> clintc: you can move any panel from the very same config dialog
[04:34] <clintc> it's covered by the side panel
[04:34] <Tm_T> clintc: wait a minute
[04:35] <_Robbe_> icecruncher : refreshed the dns, rebooted the rooter, etc. ?
[04:35] <icecruncher> _Robbe_: not using dns
[04:36] <_Robbe_> Tm_T : is their a way to tell konq to back off and show them ?
[04:37] <Tm_T> clintc: oh my... you have kcontrol running?
[04:37] <icecruncher> _Robbe_; router is doing it all
[04:37] <juan278> is there anyway to allow desktop icons on to a 2nd screen (im uswing twinview)
[04:37] <Tm_T> _Robbe_: hum, I don't know about this issue much, sorry, I recommend to do some searching in wiki/help.ubuntu and forums
[04:37] <omega__> hy to all
[04:37] <Tm_T> clintc: running or atleast installed?
[04:38] <clintc> Tm_T: I'm not sure... it's not an app that I am familiar with but I know how to check with apt
[04:39] <Tm_T> clintc: ok, when it's installed and running, poke me
[04:39] <Misterfixit> Anyone:  I need some help on finding which /dev/TTY my GPS unit is attached to .. trying to set up GPSMAN
[04:39] <Misterfixit> Bus 002 Device 008: ID 091e:0003 Garmin International GPSmap
[04:39] <foxx> Just a quick question, does anybody know if there's help for KDevelop on IRC?
[04:39] <_Robbe_> Tm_T : I'll do that, I thought I'ld pop the question in here, just to be sure, it's not a standard kde thing
[04:39] <omega__> how can i now if there is a harware problem whit my audio 5.1 sysyem?
[04:39] <Misterfixit> This is what lsusb command reveals.  But I don't know how that relates to the actual setting within gpsman
[04:39] <clintc> Tm_T: installed and running
[04:39] <Tm_T> _Robbe_: it's definately not
[04:40] <omega__> the central satelite don't play
[04:40] <Tm_T> clintc: ok, desktop -> panels
[04:40] <Tm_T> clintc: voil
[04:40] <icecruncher> _Robbe_: it somwhow won't save the router a s dns
[04:41] <clintc> Tm_T: yes, that is great... seems very odd not to include that in system settings... anyway Thank you!
[04:41] <_Robbe_> icecruncher : and you can't ping the router from that other pc ?
[04:42] <Misterfixit> anyone have any ideas on my query?
[04:42] <eagles0513875> reinstalling hasnt helped
[04:42] <eagles0513875> still internet issues
[04:42] <eagles0513875> its taken bout 20 min to download the pkg list
[04:43] <Tm_T> Misterfixit: is it usb?
[04:43] <asfak> can anyone guide me to put my image on bootloader ?
[04:44] <Tm_T> !bootloader
[04:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootloader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:44] <Tm_T> hum
[04:44] <Tm_T> asfak: you mean grub?
[04:44] <icecruncher> _Robbe_: sorry, to be more precise, it wont accept the router as gateway, it keeps jumping back to 0.0.0.0
[04:44] <asfak> yes
[04:44] <Tm_T> icecruncher: check if you have knetworkmanager running
[04:44] <eagles0513875> im starting to wonder whether my problem is my modem
[04:45] <Tm_T> asfak: hum, I think help.ubuntu.com/community has info about it, try search
[04:45] <hasan> anyone using kmldonkey?
[04:45] <icecruncher> Tm_T: that's where I'm changing it
[04:45] <BluesKaj> omega , in Kmix /switches/ch mode , choose 6ch
[04:45] <Tm_T> icecruncher: I see
[04:45] <eagles0513875> ice could it be a modem problem im having
[04:45] <Tm_T> icecruncher: I don't use it so don't know
[04:46] <Tm_T> !away | phimic|away
[04:46] <ubotu> phimic|away: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[04:46] <_Robbe_> icecruncher : you did reboot both ?  the stuburn pc and the router ?
[04:46] <clintc> Tm_T: interesting note, when you set the size of the "universal sidebar" from small to normal you then have access to to it's hide control which fixes the problem of not being able to get to the kicker hide control
[04:46] <icecruncher> _Robbe_: dunno
[04:46] <hasan> anyone using kmldonkey???
[04:46] <Tm_T> hasan: if you have problem, just say so, doing polls doesn't help
[04:46] <eagles0513875> !kmldonkey
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmldonkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <hasan> ok
[04:47] <_Robbe_> icecruncher : might help the sync
[04:47] <hasan> how can i add servers from a .met file
[04:47] <hasan> in kmldonkey
[04:47] <Tm_T> "anyone using kde???" gah!
[04:47] <BluesKaj> hasan, amule ?
[04:47] <hasan> kmldonkey
[04:47] <hasan> i dont want to add one by one
[04:48] <hasan> do i have to do it manually ?
[04:48] <icecruncher> _Robbe_: no work
[04:48] <hasan> cant i make it read from a .met like file list?
[04:48] <hasan> there are only 4 servers in kmldonkey
[04:48] <BluesKaj> hasan, try amule , it's actually very good ...auto server loading etc
[04:49] <_Robbe_> icecruncher : tried dhcp ?
[04:49] <_Robbe_> Tm_T : for now ... yes ;-)
[04:49] <hasan> nope i have tried it
[04:49] <hasan> and i wnat to use kmldonkey
[04:50] <icecruncher> _Robbe_: that's how I'm running it
[04:51] <icecruncher> _Robbe_: but i got it working bnow, had to apply the gateway to eth0 and eth1
[04:51] <The_Machine> i think it's driver related, but i'm experiencing a strange phenomenon with Kubuntu lately.  If i do CTRL+ALT+F1, and then try to switch back to my X session using CTRL+ALT+F7, i only get my cursor and I don't get anything else.  I am running beryl, and i use an nvidia video card.  Any ideas or thoughts?
[04:51] <_Robbe_> icecruncher : if that's how you're running it, you should only have to set the gateway once, on the router
[04:51] <icecruncher> _Robbe_: eth1 being the unused wifi, so i thought at first that it wasnt necessary
[04:51] <cwo4mann> hi again .. this is "misterfixit"  someone kicked me off and then tried to flood me ... I am still looking for info on the gps usb setting .. sorry if I missed the answers -- you can thank whoever decided to boot me
[04:51] <icecruncher> lol
[04:51] <_Robbe_> icecruncher : lol, applied it to the wrong card :-)
[04:52] <_Robbe_> icecruncher : hehe, now you now
[04:52] <bauch> hi@all
[04:52] <dromer> can someone help me install grub to a chrooted usb-disk?
[04:52] <icecruncher> _Robbe_: yep
[04:53] <cwo4mann> ??
[04:53] <varaonaid> can the kubuntu alternate install cd be used as a livecd?
[04:54] <jussi01> varaonaid: no
[04:54] <nosrednaekim> varaonaid: no
[04:54] <Miltos01> hi ppl:-)
[04:54] <varaonaid> ok, that's what i thought
[04:54] <varaonaid> thanks
[04:54] <LucidFox> is it possible to make Kaffeine center the window when I open a video file?
[04:55] <venik212> I had a power failure, and now Kubuntu comes up in a 640X480 screen resolution.  I tried to change it with System Settings, but it shows only this coarse resolution-- the beautiful 1 high resolution is gone
[04:55] <venik212> I booted the system in Windows, and it was fine-- no problems there
[04:55] <venik212> so the monitor is fine, and so is the ATI card
[04:55] <nosrednaekim> venik212: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:56] <venik212> How do I do that?
[04:56] <DaSkreech> Ok So I have a bash session that is taking up 60% of my CPU
[04:56] <DaSkreech> How do I figure out what it's doing?
[04:57] <jhutchins_lt> DaSkreech: top?  ps ax?
[04:57] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_lt: That tells me that it exists
[04:57] <icecruncher> how can i stop the iptables?
[04:57] <jhutchins_lt> fixres | venik212
[04:58] <jhutchins_lt> !fixres | venik212
[04:58] <ubotu> venik212: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:58] <DaSkreech> I want to know why a bash session is taking up 60% of my CPU
[04:58] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: stop them from what?
[04:58] <jhutchins_lt> DaSkreech: Look for processes attached to that pty.
[04:58] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: running
[04:58] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Why?
[04:58] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_lt: Just that bash session it lloks like
[04:58] <venik212> I did-- but nothing happened
[04:59] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: try speed up network
[04:59] <Julius> Bonjour :)
[04:59] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: been trying to load ubuntu.com in konq
[04:59] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: for 5 mins
[05:00] <icecruncher> !fr | Julius
[05:00] <ubotu> Julius: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:00] <Julius> Thanks :D
[05:00] <icecruncher> np
[05:00] <Julius> <3
[05:02] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Do you have any firewall software installed?
[05:02] <wsjunior> i just noticed that bit rate for my wireless card is at 11Mb/s and should be 54 Mb/s. Trying to change it drops connection and its not possible to connect until change it back to 11 Mb/s, can anybody help me with this? its a bcm4319 card.
[05:02] <DaSkreech> Been running for 432 minutes
[05:02] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: no
[05:03] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Ok, you can't just kill iptables, because what iptables does is load firewall rules into the kernel.
[05:03] <jhutchins_lt> hang on a sec...
[05:04] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: well is ther any other way to speed up the network? ipv6 is disabled already
[05:04] <_Robbe_> Can Kubuntu's konqueror show drives by default like Ubuntu, rather then hide them ?
[05:04] <nosrednaekim> _Robbe_: yes
[05:05] <_Robbe_> nosrednaekim : how exactly ?
[05:05] <venik212> can anyone help me resore my screen to its high resolution mode?
[05:05] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: In a console, try iptables -L, see if it lists any rules.
[05:05] <_Robbe_> nosrednaekim : some setting in konqueror or in the system settings ?
[05:05] <DaSkreech> !fixres | venik212
[05:05] <ubotu> venik212: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:05] <jhutchins_lt> venik212: Did you look at the link ubotu sent you?
[05:06] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: it only shows that chains input , forward, output are on accept
[05:07] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Ok, then that's not the problem.
[05:07] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Does firefox have the same problem as knoqueror?
[05:07] <nosrednaekim> _Robbe_: which drives, are you talking hard drives?
[05:07] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt:      it's not installed, this is fresh install
[05:07] <DaSkreech> Does anyone have krfcommd running ?
[05:08] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Well, it would be a useful tool.
[05:08] <_Robbe_> nosrednaekim : yeps, local HD's, parts of a local HD and HD's over a network
[05:08] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: You can also check network performance with the host, ping, and traceroute commands.
[05:08] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: ping gives me regular speeds
[05:08] <jhutchins_lt> DaSkreech: I though we had established that krf is a bad idea.
[05:08] <nosrednaekim> _Robbe_: enter "media:/" into the location bar
[05:09] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_lt: Well I have it running
[05:09] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Does host respond quickly?
[05:09] <_Robbe_> nosrednaekim : that only shows my usb drives
[05:09] <DaSkreech> I don't remember starting half of these processes
[05:09] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: mo
[05:09] <icecruncher> *no
[05:09] <jhutchins_lt> Ok, that's suspicious.
[05:09] <DaSkreech> yeah
[05:09] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: That looks like you maybe didn't disable ipv6 after all.  You did restart, right?
[05:09] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: yep
[05:10] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: What did you do to disable it?
[05:10] <Miltos01> ppl help!!! after upgrading to kubuntu 7.10 I can NOT see the desktop enviroment...
[05:10] <icecruncher> in the aliases file, deleted ipvd and types off 9net-pff 10 i think)
[05:11] <crdlb> Miltos01, 7.10, not 7.04?
[05:11] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: That's not the right way to do it.
[05:11] <icecruncher> k
[05:11] <_Robbe_> nosrednaekim : correction it shows 'em now, but it isn't able to mount them and show it's content
[05:11] <venik212> THat Howto talks about a command ATICONFIG, which dch does not exist on my system, and does not appear in Adewdept
[05:12] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: rather this way http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202838?
[05:12] <venik212> Adept
[05:12] <venik212> (it is hard typing on 640X480..)
[05:12] <nosrednaekim> _Robbe_: are these local, permanant drives?
[05:12] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: What does ip a | grep ipv6 show?
[05:13] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: nothing
[05:13] <Miltos01> crdlb...I think its 7.04...
[05:13] <_Robbe_> nosrednaekim : yes, there is just one that is a switch drive
[05:13] <DaSkreech> Miltos01: can you login and type lsb_release -a
[05:14] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Ok, that line that has both protocols listed is incorrect, but the other two appear to be working.
[05:14] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: k I'll edit and reboot
[05:14] <Miltos01> DaSkreech...just a minute to give it a try...yes I think I can login
[05:14] <DaSkreech> Miltos01: thanks
[05:15] <dromer> how do I activate the kqemu accelerator?
[05:15] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Ok, that's not really going to fix the problem, it's just maintenance.
[05:16] <The_Machine> i think it's driver related, but i'm experiencing a strange phenomenon with Kubuntu lately.  If i do CTRL+ALT+F1, and then try to switch back to my X session using CTRL+ALT+F7, i only get my cursor and I don't get anything else.  I am running beryl, and i use an nvidia video card.  Any ideas or thoughts?
[05:16] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: :0
[05:16] <_Robbe_> nosrednaekim : that's a drive that enables to enter several different HD's, it's a storage thing, the errors claim a 999 uid
[05:16] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_lt: the bash shell was started with !??!
[05:17] <jhutchins_lt> DaSkreech: Hm?  How about just kill the shell?
[05:17] <DaSkreech> The_Machine: you can sk in #ubuntu-effects
[05:17] <Miltos01> Daskreech...it still reports Ubuntu Edgy v6.10
[05:17] <nosrednaekim> _Robbe_: go to system settings->advanced->disks
[05:17] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_lt: naw I sent it a sigstop
[05:17] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Tell me about your connection.
[05:17] <nosrednaekim> _Robbe_: and change all those drives to be able to be mounted by the normal user
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Miltos01: Hmm you may not have finished the update
[05:17] <jhutchins_lt> DaSkreech: Kill is a generic term.
[05:18] <DaSkreech> Miltos01: type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:18] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: toshiba laptop on dhcp (like the rest of the network) to a hub, then to a router
[05:18] <DaSkreech> jhutchins_lt: nice defence
[05:18] <Miltos01> DasKreech: just a minute
[05:18] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: me on a desktop, also working on dhcp, talking ot you right now
[05:19] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt; same setup
[05:21] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: I presume that the laptop is the slow one, the desktop's ok, and the router is providing DHCP service?
[05:21] <JuJuBee> What should I copy to /etc/skel if I just created  a user account I wish to use as a template?
[05:21] <icecruncher> jhutyep
[05:21] <JuJuBee> Menus etc...
[05:22] <Miltos01> DaSkreech: It finished the sudo dpkg --configure -a, now what next?
[05:22] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: What is in /etc/resolv.conf on the laptop?  Is it different from what's on the desktop?
[05:22] <DaSkreech> Miltos01: Was it installing things?
[05:23] <Miltos01> DaSkreech: yes, a few..
[05:23] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: same
[05:23] <DaSkreech> Miltos01: try sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[05:23] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: both being the router
[05:23] <Miltos01> DaSkreech: Ok...wait
[05:23] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Try replacing the router with your isp's dns ip's on the laptop.  No need to reboot, see if the host command works faster.
[05:24] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: it doesn't have one
[05:25] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: You have to have an external dns somewhere - the router will have one - otherwise nobody would be able to resolve external IP's.
[05:25] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: you can use opendns if you have to.
[05:25] <Miltos01> DaSkreech: Kdm is already running
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Miltos01: Press alt+ctrl+f7
[05:26] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: no it's automatic, that's what my dad told me...
[05:26] <amin81> hi everyone
[05:26] <nosrednaekim> hello
[05:27] <amin81> i have tried to come online for 1 1/2 hours now with no success
[05:27] <nosrednaekim> but now you can?
[05:27] <amin81> i am online with a windows machine
[05:27] <DaSkreech> amin81: good job on getting that solved then
[05:27] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Automatic what?  The info has to come from somewhere.
[05:27] <JuJuBee> Anyone have an idea about what I copy to /etc/skel from the current account so any new accounts get the same kmenu's etc?
[05:27] <amin81> temporary solution :)
[05:27] <_Robbe_> nosrednaekim : that seems to do have done it, any idea why that's not like ubuntu (not only owned by the root) ?
[05:27] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Most likely, the router is picking up the DNS info via DHCP from your ISP.
[05:27] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt; yes
[05:27] <JuJuBee> I tried .local/share but that didn't seem to work.
[05:27] <amin81> next i want to try to setup my network settings statically
[05:28] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: sounds ok :)
[05:28] <nosrednaekim> _Robbe_: Gnome let you mount them?
[05:28] <amin81> anybody know how to find the network info in windows under cmd?
[05:28] <JuJuBee> The kmenu does not have the menu items I added.
[05:28] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: i can give you reads from the router
[05:28] <_Robbe_> nosrednaekim : from the setup
[05:28] <nosrednaekim> amin81: #windows
[05:28] <Miltos01> DasKreech: the cursor is blinking on the upper left corner of the screen...
[05:28] <nosrednaekim> _Robbe_: hmm. well I don't know how the gome volume manager works
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Miltos01: Hmm
[05:29] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: try this:  Open resolv.conf on the laptop(kdesu kate /etc/resolv,conf); remove the "nameserver" line, and add "nameserver 208.67.222.222" and "nameserver 208.67.222.220".  Save, and check host resolution.
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Miltos01: Alt+ctrl+F1 and press up then change start to stop
[05:29] <amin81> nosrednaekim: there is one command so you get the whole network info of your network card such as bcast and ip
[05:29] <amin81> nosrednaekim: that is the only command i need to proceed
[05:30] <jhutchins_lt> amin81: /sbin/ifconfig
[05:30] <nosrednaekim> amin81: in windows? I don't know... thats why I referred you to #windows
[05:30] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: check hsot res?
[05:30] <icecruncher> host res
[05:30] <_Robbe_> amin81 : ipconfig for windows
[05:30] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: You said that the command "host" was responding slowly
[05:30] <amin81> _Robbe_: thanks!
[05:30] <_Robbe_> ipconfig all for everything
[05:30] <_Robbe_> np
[05:30] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: There is a known problem with routers not providing DNS resolution quickly.
[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> _Robbe_: That's windows.
[05:31] <Miltos01> DaSkreech: I can not stop it...
[05:31] <DaSkreech> amin81: ipconfig /all
[05:31] <_Robbe_> I know, that's what he asked
[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> _Robbe_: D'Oh!
[05:31] <ADiCT3D> !windows
[05:31] <DaSkreech> Miltos01: with sudo ?
[05:31] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:31] <amin81> DaSkreech: thanks
[05:31] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: k, even ping is slow
[05:31] <Miltos01> DaSKreech: with sudo what?
[05:32] <DaSkreech> Miltos01: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:32] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: You mean after you made the changes, it's slower?
[05:32] <Miltos01> DaSkreech: wait...
[05:32] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: yes, a bit
[05:32] <_Robbe_> nosrednaekim : an a related subject, any idea how I could remain a root user at all time ?
[05:32] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: both host and ping
[05:33] <amin81> ok, disconnecting now to try to get online with linux...:)
[05:33] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: how about ping to a numeric address instead of a hostname?
[05:33] <nosrednaekim> _Robbe_: on the command line "su -i" I believe
[05:33] <nosrednaekim> _Robbe_: or "sudo passwd root"
[05:33] <nosrednaekim> _Robbe_: and then "su"
[05:33] <BluesKaj> scuse my interupt here , jhutchins_lt, icecruncher ...would the hub have something to do with the problem ,or is it strictly a passthru ?
[05:33] <Dr_willis> shame shame. :)
[05:33] <jhutchins_lt> nosrednaekim: That's not correct.
[05:34] <nosrednaekim> thich one?
[05:34] <_Robbe_> nosrednaekim : thought that 2nd one was to alter the root pass, anyhow thanks a lot :-)
[05:34] <Dr_willis> Theres really no need to enable a root pasword.  heh.
[05:34] <ADiCT3D> nosrednaekim: Hey man is the dog...
[05:34] <jhutchins_lt> nosrednaekim: su should always use su -, and enabling root login defeats several security provisions on ubuntu.
[05:34] <jhutchins_lt> !sudo
[05:34] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:34] <nosrednaekim> ADiCT3D: huh?
[05:34] <jhutchins_lt> !kdesu
[05:34] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:34] <ADiCT3D> !windows
[05:34] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:34] <Miltos01> DaSkreech: thanks!!! it worked...should I'll try the update now...or leave it?
[05:34] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: quite a bit faster for the google ip
[05:34] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins_lt: yeah I know. But he asked how he could remain the root user, so I told him
[05:35] <Schuenemann> !doesn't work
[05:35] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[05:35] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: Yeah, I think he needs to test bypassing the hub and the router.
[05:35] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: strictly passthrough
[05:35] <jhutchins_lt> nosrednaekim: Ok, just remember that it's su -, not just su.
[05:35] <BluesKaj> or directly into the router , jhutchins_lt
[05:35] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: no it's fine
[05:36] <nosrednaekim> k
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Miltos01: yes finish the update
[05:36] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: you need to bypass the hub and connect directly to the router, and possibly try connecting directly to the cable modem (whatever) and bypass the router.  If it's still slow, it's probably your network card.
[05:36] <BluesKaj> why a hub in the first place , icecruncher?
[05:36] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: multiple comps, no server
[05:36] <Miltos01> DaSkreech: I am a little bit afraid...that it will hung my system again...
[05:36] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: It doesn't really matter, those are th enext things to try.
[05:37] <DaSkreech> Miltos01: We are here to help
[05:37] <BluesKaj> but you are running a router , you can network several pcs off it
[05:37] <Miltos01> DaSkreech: thanks...I will give it a try...
[05:38] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: We need to eliminate the possibility that it's a bad port or a problem with the hub or router.
[05:38] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: kl just a sec
[05:38] <bordy240> Anyone know a good way to convert avi to m4v? I tried the avi-2-m4v thing from kde-apps and it doesnt seem to work for me
[05:39] <Dr_willis> try that avidumix?
[05:39] <Dr_willis> !find avid
[05:39] <ubotu> Found: avida-base, avida-qt-viewer, avida-viewer, sword-comm-tdavid, avidemux
[05:39] <Dr_willis> I never can spell it right
[05:39] <Dr_willis> avidemux
[05:39] <jhutchins_lt> bordy240: lots of ways, mplayer, avidemux, transcode. Google transcode video linux
[05:39] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: when running win, it works though
[05:39] <bordy240> oh thanks, I was dribing myself crazy
[05:39] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Irrelevant.
[05:40] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: but it's likely to be a problem with the net card driver.
[05:40] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: even bad port on hub?
[05:40] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: true
[05:40] <sa> hello everyone, amin81 here
[05:40] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: differnt mtu or other default could do it.
[05:41] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Since you don't need iptables, you can just uninstall it, or at least set it not to start at boot.
[05:41] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: It's not the problem, but you don't need it.
[05:41] <sa> it works
[05:42] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: k lol
[05:42] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: how can I find out what network card it is?
[05:42] <jhutchins_lt> BluesKaj: Or the router has multiple ports, but they're full, or it's a matter of location, multiple computers in a room removed from the router.
[05:42] <pc02> helloooooo
[05:43] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: nope about the multiple ports
[05:43] <pc02> algien en espaol????
[05:43] <jhutchins_lt> !es | pc02
[05:43] <ubotu> pc02: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:43] <chill> hola gente
[05:44] <nosrednaekim> !es | pc02
[05:44] <ubotu> pc02: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:44] <chill> alguien mas cree que la funcion bloq mayus esta jodida en linux?
[05:44] <pc02> gracias
[05:44] <BluesKaj> must be an oldetime router , only one port, icecruncher
[05:44] <jhutchins_lt> chill: No hablo.
[05:44] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: yep
[05:44] <chill> sorry
[05:44] <chill> i misread
[05:44] <chill> but now i see, english only
[05:45] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt BluesKaj: the net card is an intel 82801DB Pro
[05:45] <jhutchins_lt> chill: No problem, we just don't speak spanish well enough to help.
[05:45] <chill> whats the command to open the control center?
[05:46] <TeraDyne> chill: sudo kcontrol
[05:46] <jhutchins_lt> chill: kdesu kcontrol
[05:46] <Dr_willis> No Hoblo.
[05:46] <chill> huh?
[05:46] <jhutchins_lt> chill: lag.
[05:46] <Dr_willis> It never fails -  i say that  and everyone then starts asking me things in Spanish... :)
[05:46] <chill> ok thx =D
[05:46] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Si?
[05:46] <jhutchins_lt> Dr_willis: Well, it helps that you mis-spelled it.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:47] <Dr_willis> High-School Spanish...
[05:47] <Dr_willis> egads that was like... a long time ago.
[05:48] <TeraDyne> Anyone know of a good CLI podcatcher besides BashPodder, or a GUI one that's similar to Ipodder?
[05:48] <chill> another thing...
[05:48] <TheInfinity> hmm ... as a newbie - i found a bug in a drupal module. but if i change something in the modules (its a header modification) and relaod the side still the old version is shown. why? :)
[05:48] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt BluesKaj: 100 Ve
[05:48] <DaSkreech> wget ?
[05:48] <chill> i have this program gmountiso downloaded from the universe repositories, but is in french, is there a way that i can translate the code and compile it again?
[05:48] <chill> where should i go
[05:49] <chill> i don't want to wait until the author translate it in launchpad
[05:49] <chill> i can do it my self
[05:49] <chill> but i dont know where to start or go
[05:49] <TeraDyne> TheInfinity: You might want to ask in Drupal's chat room or forums. I don't think there are many drupal experts here.
[05:49] <icecruncher> chill: the first is image the second is mount point
[05:49] <TheInfinity> oh damn wrong channel ;)
[05:50] <jhutchins_lt> chill: There's probably something about translation/internationalisation on the wiki page.
[05:50] <chill> mmm "google it" okay
[05:51] <BluesKaj> icecruncher, i have to ask the obvious , have you upgraded kde recently ?
[05:51] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: it' sdirectly from the 7.04 alternate
[05:52] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2695357 has the same prob, no solutiion lol
[05:53] <DaSkreech> Miltos01: How is it going?
[05:55] <UbuntuServerUser> When editing out fstab, (following http://www.howtoforge.com/samba_setup_ubuntu_5.10_p3) I'm adding a mount thats already there (in /mnt) I installled quota, should I add quota to my second HDD hdb1 where I want the quota and users to login from samba? what do lal the 0's mean after that in the tutorial?
[05:55] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: should be using the ee100 driver, no known problems.
[05:55] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: how can I check if it's really using the driver?
[05:55] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: I do see that a lot of people who have that card are actually using a wireless connection...
[05:55] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: lsmod
[05:55] <kubuntian> hello everybody
[05:56] <ricardo> hi!.. good morning from Mexico...  well, my question:  Does somebody know an irc chanel about ie conditional comments?... I'va got a trouble with that.
[05:56] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: lsmod | grep ee
[05:56] <dave_> EVERYONE!! what are your favorite five states?
[05:56] <juan278> if im compiling for use on kubuntu 7.10 what options should i use? should i enable embeded qt?
[05:56] <jhutchins_lt> ricardo: You might ask in ##windows
[05:56] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: k, well I do have wireless built in, but no way to use it
[05:56] <nosrednaekim> dave_: !offtopic
[05:56] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: No access point.
[05:56] <dave_> thanks!!!
[05:57] <clouder`grr> How can I get an overview of which files/folders are taking up the most space
[05:57] <ricardo> ##windows?.... well thanks so!
[05:57] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: You could try a couple of different live CD's, see if the problem is the same with different distros.
[05:57] <kubuntian> i was trying to have my ipod device to be /dev/ipod. I followed the guite at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuIpod, first i created a rule 10-local.rule and pasted the string referred to the guide, then i restarted the udev manager. However, when i plugged in my ipod the desired device wasn't created and a sdb instance was in /dev......... somebody can help me?
[05:57] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: yup and the lsmod shows a buch of stuff
[05:57] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Mandriva, knoppix, debian live.
[05:57] <nosrednaekim> clouder`grr: there is a nice gnome utility for it.
[05:57] <chill> clouder`grr use konqueror
[05:57] <nosrednaekim> clouder`grr: lemme find the name
[05:57] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Should show the ee100 module loaded.
[05:57] <chill> it has a space usage view mode
[05:58] <clouder`grr> chill: that full view thing?
[05:58] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: how should it show that
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> clouder`grr: search for disk usage analyzer
[05:58] <chill> mmm no
[05:58] <trakinas> question: which is the xorg installed by Kubuntu?
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> !info disk usage analyzer
[05:58] <nosrednaekim> trakinas: in 7.04, 7.2
[05:58] <chill> clouder`grr: in konqueror the view modes the lasto ne
[05:58] <trakinas> thanks.
[05:59] <clouder`grr> chill: ahh thanks
[05:59] <chill> your welcome
[05:59] <chill> how can i disable those messafe?
[05:59] <chill> its anoying and i don't need to know who just joinned
[05:59] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: not there
[06:00] <trakinas> question 2: how do I make IDE devices not to be "SCSI devices"? my cd-rom works in this way, but not my dvd drive, which works perfectly on Gentoo.
[06:00] <nosrednaekim> trakinas: its the kernel version.
[06:00] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Pastebin your whole lsmod
[06:01] <trakinas> nosrednaekim: but I kind of failed trying to switch kernels on KUbuntu.
[06:01] <trakinas> nosrednaekim: Is it better IDE devices be "SCSIed"
[06:01] <trakinas> ?
[06:01] <kubuntian> hello?!? so, somebody can help me with my ipod configuration?
[06:01] <nosrednaekim> trakinas: yeah, its fine... its the new libata
[06:02] <chill> kubuntian: what do you want to know?
[06:02] <nosrednaekim> kubuntian: whats the problem?
[06:02] <kubuntian>  i was trying to have my ipod device to be /dev/ipod. I followed the guite at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuIpod, first i created a rule 10-local.rule and pasted the string referred to the guide, then i restarted the udev manager. However, when i plugged in my ipod the desired device wasn't created and a sdb instance was in /dev......... somebody can help me?
[06:02] <DaSkreech> !ipod
[06:02] <rami> i want to uninstall kubuntu and only use GNOME
[06:02] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[06:03] <rami> but i cant seem to get ridof it properly
[06:03] <DaSkreech> rami: sudo aptitiude remove kdelibs2c4a
[06:03] <Evolution2> !wine
[06:03] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:03] <trakinas> kubuntian: I mouted my sister's ipod on gentoo, but never used it on kubuntu. you can tey gentoo's guide, but i dont know in which level gentoo and kubuntu are different in dealing with udev.
[06:03] <Evolution2> thanks Ubo
[06:03] <rami> does that remove all the programs too?
[06:04] <jhutchins_lt> !bot
[06:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:04] <trakinas> nosrednaekim: so, which kernel would you recommend? because not having my dvd drive working isnt good.
[06:04] <DaSkreech> rami: anything to do with KDE
[06:04] <rami> ty!
[06:04] <jhutchins_lt> !botsnack
[06:04] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:04] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Do you have the latest kernel?
[06:04] <nosrednaekim> trakinas: well, its kinda hard to switch whole kernel versions in ubuntu
[06:04] <Evolution2> whats the latest KDE advancement version available?
[06:04] <jhutchins_lt> !v kernel
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about v kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: second to latest
[06:05] <trakinas> nosrednaekim: no kidding! =P
[06:05] <nosrednaekim> trakinas: you need something b4 2.6.19
[06:05] <jhutchins_lt> !info kernel
[06:05] <ubotu> Package kernel does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:05] <trakinas> nosrednaekim: 2.6.17 on gentoo. hehe
[06:05] <rami> not found
[06:05] <rami> i still have the boot screen and stuff
[06:05] <nosrednaekim> yeah... well libata is still under heavy development
[06:05] <kubuntian> trakinas: is there a place where i can understand where the udev rule fails to match the ipod recognizement?
[06:05] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: You can always try updating, see if that helps.
[06:05] <rami> i tried in synaptic first
[06:05] <trakinas> so, old-fashion way? download kernel and kernel headers and do it all by hand?
[06:06] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: with no internet connection ? lol
[06:06] <trakinas> kubuntian: i dont know. try gentoo wiki.
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins_lt: should I be worried that ubuntu doesn't have a kernel ;)
[06:06] <rami> but that was'nt working all properly....
[06:06] <DaSkreech> rami: THat's the kernel when you update your kernel next it will switch over to ubuntu
[06:06] <rami> !bot
[06:06] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:06] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27635/
[06:06] <rami> ok
[06:07] <trakinas> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Special:Search?search=ipod&go=Go
[06:08] <kubuntian> !udev
[06:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:08] <kubuntian> !ipod
[06:08] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[06:08] <Hunding> !rockbox
[06:09] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[06:10] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: It's the e100 module that the mii module is linked to.
[06:10] <rami> !help
[06:10] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:10] <rami> !ipod
[06:10] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[06:11] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: ? but in the lsmod it's not right?
[06:11] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: No, it's fine.
[06:11] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: nm
[06:11] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: We know it's there, because it's connecting, even if it's slow.
[06:12] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: ping works fine now, but konq wont load
[06:12] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: dunno why
[06:12] <rami> i'll just reinstall ubuntu...
[06:12] <Evolution2> i just downloaded an iconset but i dont know to what directory. can someone help me find them
[06:13] <mat1980> Evolution2: which program have you used?
[06:13] <Evolution2> just firefox off the net
[06:13] <Evolution2> crystal project iconset
[06:14] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Best thing I can suggest within kubuntu is to upgrade to the latest kernel and see if that does anything, and to try other distros to see if they're any different.
[06:14] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: k
[06:14] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: thnks a lot
[06:14] <Schuenemann> how to upgrade to KDE 3.5.7?
[06:15] <Evolution2> Schuenemann: you need to get the sources.list for that
[06:15] <Schuenemann> which is it?
[06:16] <Evolution2> http://pastebin.ca/389816
[06:16] <Schuenemann> which lines?
[06:16] <Evolution2> Schuenemann: type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:17] <Schuenemann> you have lots of 3rd party repos
[06:17] <Evolution2> and delete your whole list with the one in that site
[06:17] <Evolution2> hot reallu
[06:17] <Evolution2> really*
[06:17] <Evolution2> not*
[06:17] <Schuenemann> can't you tell me the only one I need?
[06:17] <Evolution2> they should already be there
[06:18] <Evolution2> all you need are the sources for your 3.5.7
[06:18] <Graham> Seems to be a lot of updates to compiz. I ugpraded yesterday and there's new packages on already.
[06:18] <Schuenemann> dude, I might have other repos I need, you want me to replace them all?
[06:18] <Evolution2> just copy and paste from that site
[06:18] <Evolution2> into your sources
[06:19] <Evolution2> and make sure you have an open line at the botton
[06:19] <Evolution2> m
[06:19] <Evolution2> then save
[06:19] <Evolution2> after that do sudo apt-get update
[06:19] <Evolution2> and see what happens
[06:20] <jhutchins_lt> Graham: Compiz is alpha testing software.
[06:27] <ninHer> hi all
[06:28] <nosreda> hello
[06:28] <ksivaji> hi
[06:30] <jussi01> hi ksivaji pls dont pm without asking...
[06:30] <icecruncher> !kernel
[06:30] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:30] <icecruncher> where can I download the latest kernel?
[06:30] <ksivaji> jussi01 ok
[06:31] <ksivaji> jussi01 sorry
[06:31] <BluesKaj> icecruncher, warning , my last kernel update screwed up Grub..if you have awindows partition then be warned
[06:31] <patrick_> I have a question about port 80
[06:31] <jussi01> patrick_: go on...
[06:31] <hasan> how can i obtain high id in kmldonkey?
[06:31] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: crap really?
[06:32] <Miltos01> DaSkreech:are you in?
[06:32] <ksivaji> jussi01 pm ksivaji
[06:32] <patrick_> when I surf the web-site and cannot access it.. However, I have accessed before
[06:32] <jussi01> ksivaji: what is it you need?
[06:33] <BluesKaj> icecruncher, i was able to solve the prob ...make sure your fstab is clean and not corrupted like mine was
[06:33] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: lol
[06:33] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: it is
[06:33] <jussi01> patrick_: port 80 is http... if you surf the web you are using it...
[06:33] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: fstab untouched since sys install
[06:33] <Arwen> BluesKaj, funny, my last kernel update hasn't changed anything...
[06:34] <ksivaji> jussi01 i need  your help but it seems you are not ready to  help me
[06:34] <hasan> how i can i add servers to kmldonkey?
[06:34] <BluesKaj> ok , icecruncher , but i dunnop if that's gonna sove your internet prob
[06:34] <Miltos01> ppl help!!! after trying the update to kubuntu v7.04 my system hangs on checking the file system...
[06:34] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: lol
[06:34] <Arwen> Miltos01, do a clean install then
[06:34] <jussi01> ksivaji: I can try to help, but what is wrong with talking here?
[06:34] <patrick_> jussi01....Is there any block action by my ISP ???
[06:34] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: what distro should I try?
[06:34] <jussi01> patrick_: ahouldnt be...
[06:35] <BluesKaj> Arwen, my fstab was screwed up due to my fooling with partiton mounts
[06:35] <Arwen> hah
[06:35] <Arwen> but then it's not the fault of the kernel..
[06:35] <patrick_> JUSSI01... I have a router between my PC and ADSL modem !
[06:35] <ksivaji> jussi01 i have some general questions
[06:35] <BluesKaj> at least that's my conclusion
[06:35] <icecruncher> so where can I get the kernel?
[06:35] <Arwen> us.archive.ubuntu.com.... or just apt-get install linux-image-blah
[06:36] <jussi01> ksivaji: ask then...
[06:36] <icecruncher> image?
[06:36] <BluesKaj> well Arwen , i can't be absolutely sure about the kernel not changing things
[06:36] <Miltos01> ppl help!!! after trying the update to kubuntu v7.04 my system hangs on checking the file system...
[06:36] <Arwen> .....your kernel can't break other partitions or grub... less you mount those partitions of course
[06:36] <Arwen> Miltos01, so do a fresh install
[06:37] <Arwen> don't repeat questions that have been answered
[06:37] <ksivaji> jussi01 i am interested in doing software project  but i dont know how to start
[06:38] <jussi01> ksivaji: what programming languages  do you know?
[06:38] <icecruncher> to update the kernel is it enought to updat the headers?
[06:38] <ksivaji> jussi01 c\c++\java
[06:38] <BluesKaj> I'm still tempted to reinstall windows on separate partiton , but i continue to resist , it's like quitting smoking ...dunno why. Old habits die hard i guess.
[06:38] <Arwen> icecruncher, well, if you update the headers, you can compile stuff for the new kernel, but you won't be able to use it
[06:38] <jussi01> ksivaji: so what do you want to write?
[06:39] <icecruncher> Arwen: i'dunno, I need to update the kernel on a machine with no internet
[06:40] <Arwen> hmm, you need the linux-image-generic, linux-image-someversionnumber-generic package
[06:40] <Graham> jhutchins_lt: Are you saying that the updates are released regually?
[06:40] <patrick_> One more question... I also cannot open the flickr' pictures.. only see the icons neither the thumbnails.
[06:40] <Arwen> if you need new headers, that's linux-headers-generic and linux-headers-someversion
[06:41] <jussi01> ksivaji: what kind of client side program? what do you want it to do?
[06:42] <ksivaji> jussi01     i am not sure i want to do something small program
[06:43] <jhutchins_lt> Graham: I'm saying it's so broken they have plenty to fix and plenty to update.  It's a very active project, that's why the updates keep coming.  Since the project's so unstable in the first place, a new upgrade isn't going to do much damange.
[06:43] <jhutchins_lt> Graham: They also just merged beryl back into compiz, so all that forked code has to be reconciled.
[06:44] <jhutchins_lt> patrick_: That's probably a javascript thing, check your settings; I usually find that java works better in firefox than konq.
[06:44] <jussi01> ksivaji: jump into #ubuntu-motu and ask there
[06:44] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: No internet, or just slow internet?
[06:45] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: slow, no downloads
[06:45] <ksivaji> jussi01 ok thank you
[06:45] <Graham> jhutchins_lt: Yeah.
[06:45] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Download the files on a different box.
[06:45] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: yep, just trying to find them
[06:45] <icecruncher> but now comes bed
[06:45] <icecruncher> it's 12 already
[06:45] <icecruncher> lol
[06:46] <jhutchins_lt> icecruncher: Only quarter till!
[06:46] <jhutchins_lt> GMT+6?
[06:46] <icecruncher> jhutchins_lt: been a long day
[06:46] <icecruncher> :)
[06:47] <icecruncher> GMT+7
[06:47] <icecruncher> night all
[06:52] <MrKimm> Hey all!
[06:52] <Rictoo> How do I list all the X servers in shell?
[06:53] <MrKimm> I'm having some problems with Kubuntu... it might seem like a trivial problem, but I have no idea of how to change my screenres (I came from Ubuntu and would like to set it down to a lower resolution)
[06:54] <ksivaji> !pm
[06:54] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[06:55] <hasan> how can i changer mod for a folder and for all the folder and files inside it?
[06:56] <hasan> chmod 755 folder changes only folder not what's inside
[06:56] <ksivaji> hasan chmod 777 /folder
[06:57] <MrKimm> hasan, I think it is chmod -R 777 /folder :)
[06:57] <ksivaji> hasan right click->permission->
[06:57] <hasan> ok -R does it
[06:57] <hasan> thx MrKimm
[06:58] <flake> ksivaji  what are you wanting to do
[06:58] <MrKimm> hasan, np :)
[06:59] <ksivaji> flake sorry i am not smart enough to understand your English
[06:59] <MrKimm> Can anyone tell me how to change screen resoluton in KDE?? I cant find it...
[06:59] <hasan> how can i copy a folder and its content to another place with tar?
[06:59] <hasan> for speeding things up ?
[07:00] <hasan> not with cp -r command
[07:00] <flake> ksivaji - sorry,  what type of program do you want to code
[07:00] <hasan> i have read somthing like that but i dont remember how it exactly was
[07:00] <MrKimm> hasan, sorry, I cant help you there :)
[07:00] <ksivaji> flake not sure
[07:01] <ksivaji> flake i am just beginner
[07:01] <hasan> np
[07:01] <ksivaji> flake pm
[07:01] <ksivaji>  drarem.
[07:04] <drarem> ksivaji, are you registered
[07:05] <bbeck_> Does anyone know how to use KNetworkManager to connect to a network?  Everytime I try to connect to one of the available wireless networks I never get a prompt for the login credentials.
[07:07] <coreymon77> bbeck_: try using the iwconfig command
[07:08] <coreymon77> bbeck_: i personally dont find knetworkmanager in the least bit reliable, so i tend to suggest using alternative methods, such as the good old fashioned konsole command
[07:08] <bbeck_> coreymon77: I can join a network using that command?  Can you give me an example?
[07:08] <coreymon77> sure
[07:08] <MrKimm> Anyone? How do I change KDE screen-resolution?? this is not an xorg.conf problem... I want to get a lower resolution
[07:10] <coreymon77> bbeck_: the skelleton iwconfgi command is as follows: sudo iwconfig [interface, such as eth1, ra0 or ath0]  essid [your network name]  key [wep key-if applicable] 
[07:10] <msetim> which player you use to watch videos, movies ???
[07:10] <msetim> that have suppor to legend
[07:10] <coreymon77> bbeck_: an example of my command is sudo iwconfig ath0 essid [my network name]  key [my wep key] 
[07:11] <coreymon77> bbeck_: you follow me?
[07:11] <lynskyn> no
[07:11] <jriachi> hello
[07:11] <bbeck_> coreymon77: I do, I'm going to try it out now.
[07:11] <lynskyn> hi
[07:12] <jriachi> with konqueror, can you see this page:    http://skotesperanto.blogspot.com/2007/02/apelisto.html ?   , i get squares instead of some characters ( seems like a utf-8 problem :S )
[07:13] <jhutchins_lt> jriachi: No problems here.
[07:14] <coreymon77> jriachi: yup, squares typically mean that the particular program yo are using (or your entire system) cant read or recognize a certain charset
[07:15] <jriachi> jhutchins_lt: did you modified the fonts or something?
[07:15] <jriachi> coreymon77: it is funny, because if i copy the square and paste it in the address bar (e.g.) , i can see the character  ^^;
[07:15] <jhutchins_lt> jriachi: I have the windows core fonts, as well as a bunch of others.
[07:15] <MrKimm> I found something that might solve my problems: 'resapplet'
[07:16] <jriachi> jhutchins_lt: can you look at konqueror->settings->fonts, and tell me you configuration?
[07:16] <drarem> ksivaji are you here
[07:18] <dhq> is there any messenger with voice
[07:20] <jhutchins_lt> jriachi: I think it's a matter of charsets, not fonts, but mine says "Sans Serif".
[07:20] <jhutchins_lt> jriachi: It's the font/charset specified in the web page stylesheet you need to check.
[07:21] <Tm_T> dhq: messenger?
[07:21] <dhq> Tm_T,  do you know of any voice messengers for yahoo msn etc
[07:22] <jhutchins_lt> !equivalents | dhq
[07:22] <ubotu> dhq: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[07:22] <jhutchins_lt> kopete, gaim/pidgin, lots.
[07:22] <Tm_T> jhutchins_lt: neither of those two support _voice_
[07:22] <Tm_T> in those protocols anyway
[07:23] <Tm_T> Kopete could have Jabber voice support, but it's lottery at best to get it working
[07:23] <jhutchins_lt> dhq: Ah, voip.
[07:23] <Tm_T> !voip
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about voip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <Tm_T> hum
[07:23] <jhutchins_lt> skype is the only one I know of.
[07:23] <Tm_T> that definately needs factoid
[07:23] <dhq> jhutchins, most of my friends are on yahoo and hotmail
[07:23] <jhutchins_lt> Voice Over IP.
[07:23] <Tm_T> there's tons of sip apps
[07:23] <jhutchins_lt> Tm_T: All of which are easy to use if you're a telephony engineer.
[07:24] <dhq> Tm_T, well name me the best one you know of link me
[07:24] <jussi01> gizmo!
[07:24] <jriachi> jhutchins_lt: i found it: it was because the css said "use Vera Bitstream if possible", an my vera bitstream had no unicode support or something. Just uninstalled vera, and i can see the symbols
[07:24] <Tm_T> dhq: I don't use them so don't know "best"
[07:24] <jussi01> www.gizmoproject.com
[07:24] <dhq> vivek_, you using bsnl
[07:25] <dhq> Tm_T, give me any one software
[07:25] <daStick> what's happening?
[07:26] <oscar> hi!!
[07:26] <oscar> how are you??
[07:26] <daStick> im great thanx
[07:26] <daStick> you?
[07:26] <basse> i'm great too
[07:26] <daStick> whooa kewl
[07:26] <oscar> good
[07:26] <oscar> im from italy you??
[07:27] <jhutchins_lt> I have not found a linux project that will work with any of the mainstream voice/video services.
[07:27] <dhq> oh
[07:27] <jhutchins_lt> All I've seen are ones that will work (only) with themselves.
[07:28] <Tm_T> !it | oscar
[07:28] <ubotu> oscar: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:28] <Tm_T> dhq: look what jussi01 mentioned
[07:28] <oscar> ascolta perche non mi internet solo la chat
[07:28] <oscar> come devo fare
[07:28] <Tm_T> oscar: no, look again what ubotu said
[07:28] <Tm_T> oscar: look it well
[07:29] <dhq> Tm_T, huh
[07:29] <jussi01> dhq: [20:24]  <jussi01> www.gizmoproject.com
[07:30] <oscar> come faccio a connetermi
[07:30] <oscar> zio bono mi va solo la chat
[07:30] <Tm_T> !it | oscar
[07:30] <ubotu> oscar: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:31] <Tm_T> oscar: read it well  thank you
[07:34] <TeraDyne> Anyone know if there's a way to change the colors of the OSX-style menu bar?
[07:35] <Tm_T> TeraDyne: doesn't it follow KDE colour settings?
[07:35] <rustalot> Amarok isn't showing any of the .ogg files in my 'music' folder
[07:35] <Tm_T> rustalot: tell more
[07:36] <TeraDyne> Tm_T: I don't see an option for it in the color settings.
[07:36] <TeraDyne> Tm_t: and it didn't change with the rest of my colors when I changed the scheme
[07:37] <Tm_T> TeraDyne: interesting
[07:37] <rustalot> Tm_T: my system is as follows: ~/media/music/$ARTIST/$ALBUM/$SONG, and I have some that are in mp3, and ones ripped more recently are .ogg.
[07:37] <jhutchins_lt> #amarok
[07:37] <rustalot> Tm_T: all the mp3 files show, but none of the ogg files do.
[07:38] <Tm_T> rustalot: show in _where_ ?
[07:39] <hitmanWilly> ok, anyone who says windows is easier than nix is on crack...
[07:39] <rustalot> Tm_T: the 'collection' part. I tried 'Update' and 'Rescan" but they didn't work
[07:39] <hitmanWilly> just spent the last three hours trying to clean mcafee off my brothers laptop
[07:39] <Gaz> hey :)
[07:39] <Tm_T> rustalot: ->
[07:39] <Gaz> i am downloading a file
[07:39] <vzduch> evening :)
[07:40] <Gaz> which ends with the extension .run :)
[07:40] <Gaz> my question is:
[07:40] <Gaz> once the file has finished
[07:40] <jhutchins_lt> !enter | gaz
[07:40] <ubotu> gaz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:40] <Gaz> how do i 'run' the .run file ? :)
[07:40] <coreymon77> hitmanWilly: unless you call wizards for anything and everything short of picking your @$$ (atleast, last time i checked they didnt have one for that :P) "easier"
[07:40] <Gaz> okay :)
[07:40] <Gaz> well, will you answer my question ?
[07:41] <Gaz> or are you looking for grammatical errors :) ?
[07:41] <Gaz> :)
[07:41] <jimmybondo> Is there a problem with the sun-java-6 package in the repository? I am getting a missing package error...
[07:41] <hitmanWilly> Gaz: ro run it try cd'ing into the dir where you downloaded it and sh ./<name_of_bin_file>
[07:41] <Gaz> thanks :)
[07:42] <hitmanWilly> Gaz: or you may not even need the sh part
[07:42] <Gaz> thank you :)
[07:42] <hitmanWilly> Gaz: under nix executability is determined by a permission flag not a file extension
[07:42] <vzduch> hitmanWilly: indeed, if using './' at the beginning you don't need sh
[07:43] <hitmanWilly> vzduch: only if the permission is set at +x
[07:43] <Selrach> How do I modify access rights to folders/files?
[07:43] <hitmanWilly> vzduch: otherwise you do :)
[07:43] <vzduch> hitmanWilly: or you set chmod +x
[07:43] <hitmanWilly> vzduch: that works as well
[07:44] <hitmanWilly> vzduch: but for a one-time run i find its usually easier just to use the sh
[07:44] <Gaz> well what does the job done i guess :)
[07:45] <Gaz> thanks guys/gals, very helpful :)
[07:45] <vzduch> hmm.. never knew that sh can run non-executable-flagged scripts
[07:45] <hitmanWilly> np
[07:45] <hitmanWilly> vzduch: use it all the time
[07:47] <Gerrit> Hi, when I re-activate after suspend-to-ram, ksysguard can no longer connect to information associated with eth0 and eth1. Where does it get this information / what's going on?
[07:47] <hitmanWilly> Gerrit: you may try sudo ifdown eth0;sudo ifup eth0
[07:47] <Gerrit> Restarting ksysguard solves the problem. What causes the problem?
[07:48] <vzduch> but.. anyone have an idea how to enable 3D acceleration for nvidia-glx-legacy? I found some hints on hacking xorg.conf.. only if I set option RenderAccel = "true", I can't work w/ my system for very long, at some point - usually on launching an application (Kate, Konqueror, you name it) everything freezes & I can only move the mouse pointer, not even switch to a console
[07:48] <Gerrit> hitmanWilly: That would be another try, but I'm rather curious what causes the problem. Perhaps the network comes up too late for ksysguard? Can I have it to "reload" or so?
[07:49] <Selrach> question: How do I modify a directories' access rights?
[07:49] <hitmanWilly> Gerrit: not really that familiar with suspend/resume stuff, but there should be a way to have it run cmds on restart
[07:50] <Gerrit> hmm
[07:50] <hitmanWilly> Gerrit: /etc/init.d/networking restart should have the same effect IIRC
[07:51] <Gerrit> I guess that's what lid.sh does
[07:51] <Gerrit> (I'm really re-opening the lid)
[07:58] <steffen> How to get a valid ident here on irc?
[07:59] <hitmanWilly> steffen: /msg NickServ register
[07:59] <steffen> i mean the ~ ...
[08:00] <steffen> on ex. efnet..
[08:01] <Gaz> hey again :)
[08:02] <Gaz> just ran the command sh ./nameoffile.run and displayed this message: gary@gary-laptop:~/Desktop$ sh ./tremulous-1.1.0.installer.x86.run
[08:02] <Gaz> sh: Can't open ./tremulous-1.1.0.installer.x86.run
[08:02] <vzduch> wth is tremulous?
[08:03] <Gaz> a fps
[08:03] <Gaz> *an fps
[08:03] <juan278> is it possible to install aplications on a nokia from linux?
[08:03] <hitmanWilly> Gaz: ok, chmod a+x tremulous-1.1.0.installer.x86.run
[08:03] <hitmanWilly> Gaz: then ./tremulous-1.1.0.installer.x86.run
[08:03] <Gaz> k
[08:03] <TeraDyne> !checkinstall > TeraDyne
[08:04] <Gaz> just so i know, what does chmod a+x stand for?
[08:04] <hitmanWilly> Gaz: allow all users to execute that program
[08:04] <vzduch> change mode of file for all users and groups to executable
[08:04] <Gaz> i see
[08:04] <Sanne> Gaz: for details you can read "man chmod"
[08:04] <Gaz> k
[08:05] <hitmanWilly> chmod is change permissions, a+x is set the +x flag for all users
[08:05] <Gaz> a = set ?
[08:06] <Gaz> i must read this article :)
[08:06] <Sanne> Gaz: you can also view and set those permissions via right click -> properties in konqueror
[08:06] <hitmanWilly> a == all users
[08:06] <Gaz> i see :)
[08:06] <dthacker-lt> hi, what's the name of the whiteboard software that Ubuntu uses at the developer meetings?
[08:06] <Gaz> okay
[08:06] <Gaz> thanks :)
[08:06] <Schuenemann> I need help configuring my Geforce video card in feisty! I already read the wiki and wasn't able to do it.
[08:07] <hitmanWilly> Gaz: is it working?
[08:07] <Gaz> gary@gary-laptop:~/Desktop$ chmod a+x tremulous-1.1.0.installer.x86.run
[08:07] <Gaz> chmod: cannot access `tremulous-1.1.0.installer.x86.run': No such file or directory
[08:07] <hitmanWilly> Gaz: ls | grep tremulous
[08:07] <hitmanWilly> Gaz: make sure you're in the right dir
[08:08] <Gaz> okay
[08:08] <Gaz> and now the chmod a+x command again ?
[08:09] <hitmanWilly> Gaz: chmod a+x ./tremulous-1.1.0.installer.x86.run
[08:09] <Gaz> :)
[08:09] <hitmanWilly> try it with the ./ this time
[08:09] <Schuenemann> I need help configuring my Geforce video card in feisty! I already read the wiki and wasn't able to do it.
[08:09] <Sanne> Gaz: you don't have to type the name out, you can tab complete by typing trem<tab>
[08:10] <Gaz> okay
[08:10] <Gaz> :D
[08:10] <Sanne> Gaz: or even ./trem<tab>
[08:10] <Gaz> thanks people :)
[08:10] <vzduch> asparagus.. *yummy*
[08:10] <Russian> hello everyone
[08:11] <Gaz> it's working :)
[08:11] <Sanne> you're welcome, Gaz :)
[08:11] <Gaz> no, you're welcome :)
[08:11] <daStick> hi everyobe
[08:11] <Sanne> :)
[08:11] <Russian> I have a question, I am currently working with Windows XP, and I would like to step over to Kubuntu, or Ubuntu, which one is best for me? I have no experience with Linux at all. =)
[08:11] <hitmanWilly> vzduch: asparagus = yummy {return false}
[08:11] <hitmanWilly> :P
[08:12] <Russian> HitmanWilly want to help a noob out? ^^
[08:12] <Schuenemann> haven't anyone setted up a nvidia video card?
[08:12] <Gaz> Russain as we are in a kubuntu room i'd recommend kubuntu
[08:12] <hitmanWilly> Russian: i would say Kubuntu, it seems more windows like to me
[08:12] <vzduch> hitmanWilly: you don't know what's good :P
[08:13] <Russian> Aah k then thanks
[08:13] <hitmanWilly> vzduch: and yes im fully aware my syntax is all screwed up :P
[08:13] <Russian> Any good place where I should start? some guide or anything to use kubuntu?
[08:13] <Sanne> Russian: Kubuntu with KDE as desktop has a bit more config options, which may overwhelm new users, but gives a bit more to tinker, if you like that. Ubuntu with GNOME has a nice clean desktop with sensible defaults, but not os easy to reach advanced configuration. But you can install any of *buntu, and without reinstall, add the other desktop and switch at login.
[08:14] <TeraDyne> Russian: Burn both the Ubuntu and Kubuntu LiveCDs and try them both. Use the one you like more
[08:14] <Russian> Thans for the tips guys, i really appreciate :)
[08:15] <Russian> Sanne, Interesting what you said about using both the *buntu? How is that?
[08:15] <Sanne> Russian: both use the same underlying system, they just have different desktop environments. You can have both and choose which to use when you login your pc.
[08:15] <hitmanWilly> Russian: also, if you like an app for one desktop, it'll also run in the other, so don't let that sway you one way or the other :)
[08:16] <Scunizi> I've got 5 email address in kmail, 2 of them produce an error "unable to complete list operation" & "preparing transmission from "account". Same settings and accounts in Evo and no problem.  Any suggestions?
[08:16] <Russian> Nice :D
[08:16] <Sanne> Russian: I'm searching some links for you for docs
[08:16] <Russian> Thank you, I was just about to ask if there were some guide for beginners, to have 2 *buntu environments :)
[08:17] <Sanne> Russian: I would start with those two: https://help.ubuntu.com/ and http://kubuntu.org/documentation.php
[08:17] <Schuenemann> Russian, just install it
[08:18] <Schuenemann> I mean download the iso and use the livecd
[08:18] <Sanne> Russian: there's no special guide for two desktops, you just install the other one also and use that. When you want to do that, just come back here and ask. But best is, as was said, try both via the live cds.
[08:19] <Russian> Oke, thank you very much, Sanne and Schuenemann
[08:19] <Sanne> Russian: you're welcome :)
[08:19] <Tm_T> Russian: what tiy mean by two environments?
[08:20] <Tm_T> Russian: if you like to have KDE and GNOME they can be in same system
[08:20] <Sanne> Tm_T: That's what I said :)
[08:20] <Tm_T> Sanne: ok, then I have to find my glasses
[08:20] <Russian> =D
[08:21] <Russian> is this the live cd ? ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[08:21] <vzduch> yep
[08:21] <Sanne> Russian: that's the one with Gnome
[08:21] <Russian> I tought Ubuntu had KDE
[08:22] <Sanne> Russian: that would be kubuntu-7.04...
[08:22] <Sanne> Russian: Ubuntu's default desktop is Gnome
[08:22] <vzduch> that's what the K in Kubuntu is for :)
[08:22] <Russian> aaah
[08:22] <Russian> tnx :D
[08:22] <frojnd> !dial-up
[08:22] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[08:22] <Sanne> Russian: for Kubuntu, go here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[08:23] <Russian> ty
[08:23] <vzduch> same goes for the 3rd variant w/ a different desktop environment --> Xubuntu, coming w/ Xfce
[08:26] <Huey> is is possible to turn a linksys router into a switch? (i.e. things on either side of the switch are on the same subnet, with no NAT necessary)
[08:27] <Scunizi> Huey, is the router the second one in the lan or are you attempting Wan to Lan stuff.?
[08:34] <undertakingyou> /leave found a less boring alternative
[08:36] <vzduch> o0
[08:37] <Huey> Scunizi: it's the second one in the lan, behind another that is doing all the NAT for connecting to the outside world
[08:38] <Huey> i want computers plugged into the second router to request ip addresses from the dhcp server on the first (the one connected to the internet)
[08:38] <Huey> however, simply disabling NAT on the second did not work
[08:38] <Scunizi> Huey, depending on the router you should be able to turn nat off.  If it's the linux based router you might need to in stall 3rd party software in rom.
[08:39] <Scunizi> Huey, Sometimes there's an option under General for tagging the router as a "Gateway" or switch (not sure what the name is they use for switch)
[08:40] <Scunizi> Huey, Gateway is not what you want.
[08:41] <Scunizi> Huey, actually under Setup/Advanced Routing.. you want the "router" option.
[08:42] <Huey> Scunizi: do you know what tab the option would be under? i remember seeing such a setting before, but can't find it on the admin website for the linksys befw11s4
[08:42] <Scunizi> Huey, Setup/Advanced Routing
[08:45] <Scunizi> Huey, check out this link for your router.  http://linksys.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/linksys.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=3733&lid=7756378881B01
[08:49] <Huey> Scunizi: ah, thanks
[08:50] <frojnd> I have PCIsoft v92 modem (DIAL-UP) how can I know if this modem is supported by packages of ubuntu and if I need to download some other packages before and than later install in on dial-up maschine?? can someone help me on this one ?
[08:51] <Yorokobi> frojnd, modem support (hardware support in general) is up to the kernel. If the modem shows up in dmesg then it is supported.
[08:52] <Yorokobi> Note: there's a difference between supported and works/activated.
[08:52] <frojnd> Yorokobi: so if it doesn't show up I can't do anything?
[08:53] <Yorokobi> frojnd, buy a hardware modem and not a software (WinModem) modem.
[08:54] <frojnd> What do u mean hardware modem, I bought dial-up modem and insterted it in a computer does that makes it Hardware
[08:54] <Yorokobi> frojnd, the resources are controlled by the OS (software modem) rather than the modem itself and the BIOS.
[08:55] <frojnd> so I don't have much goals
[08:55] <taime1> how do i release and renew ip when plugged directly into a cable modem?
[08:56] <georgi> wats up
[08:56] <Yorokobi> taime1, 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[08:56] <zorglu_> q. i installed feisty 3days ago, before i add edgy, now i got firefox crashing quite a lot when playing flash video, is this a known issue ?
[08:56] <taime1> okay... is there a way to do that through the gui?
[08:57] <Yorokobi> frojnd, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/96684-dial-up-modem-configuration-fc6.html
[08:57] <zorglu_> taime1: the external ip ? or the internal ip ?
[08:57] <Yorokobi> frojnd, it is for Fedora/RH but should give you a guide ^^^
[08:57] <zorglu_> taime1: aka the one seen from the internet, or the one seen from your computer ?
[08:57] <frojnd> Yorokobi: ok,
[08:58] <taime1> internet ip
[08:58] <zorglu_> !tab | taime1
[08:58] <ubotu> taime1: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[08:58] <TrueFX> hi guys
[08:58] <Yorokobi> taime1, power cycle the modem
[08:58] <lynskyn> Ya des franais ici?
[08:58] <TrueFX> how can i initiate konsole just pressing F4 ?
[08:58] <TrueFX> any time
[08:58] <sweettooth> mike_, no luck, heh, i was trying to listen to bbc radio 4, and still wouldn't work
[08:58] <TrueFX> oui parle
[08:58] <TrueFX> :)
[08:59] <lynskyn> cool
[08:59] <lynskyn> :D
[08:59] <zorglu_> taime1 ok the easiest way is to unplug your modem and hope to get a new ip once you replugged it
[08:59] <TrueFX> je ne suis pas de france mais on parle en franais aussi
[08:59] <TrueFX> :P
[08:59] <lynskyn> ah c'est cool a
[08:59] <TrueFX> :P
[08:59] <Yorokobi> !fr | lynskyn
[08:59] <ubotu> lynskyn: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:59] <TrueFX> toi
[08:59] <zorglu_> !fr| lynskyn
[08:59] <TrueFX> tu viens d'ou?
[08:59] <lynskyn> Strasbourg
[08:59] <zorglu_> TrueFX: lynskyn:this is a english channel
[08:59] <toma>  I'm behind a breezy system right now. how can i get to something more recent?
[08:59] <TrueFX> this is an english channel
[09:00] <lynskyn> Ok
[09:00] <TrueFX> we r speaking franglais
[09:00] <lynskyn> I'm from strasbourg
[09:00] <zorglu_> toma: you upgrade from scratch
[09:00] <jhutchins> toma: Burn your /home directory to a CD and do a clean install
[09:00] <zorglu_> !upgrade | toma
[09:00] <ubotu> toma: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[09:00] <TrueFX> la plupart des mots en englais vient d'origin franais et espagnol
[09:00] <TrueFX> :)
[09:00] <lynskyn> And I've just finish installing kubuntu
[09:00] <dthacker-lt> toma: but it's worth it.....
[09:00] <toma> hehe, i know
[09:00] <toma> i just want advice how  to go from breezy to feisty
[09:01] <zorglu_> TrueFX: please think about all the people who dont speak french, and go speak french on french channel or private message
[09:01] <toma> change the sources.list  in one go or go through edgy for example
[09:01] <zorglu_> toma: the url would tell you that
[09:01] <enry> goodbye!
[09:01] <dthacker-lt> does anyone have a link to the pdf version of the Ubuntu book?  I have not been able to locate it on the documentation site.
[09:01] <zorglu_> toma: skipping a release is considered 'dangerous'
[09:01] <zorglu_> toma: aka it is untested
[09:02] <zorglu_> toma: if you can, you would take a lot less risk by reinstalling from scratch
[09:02] <vzduch> toma: I've been told on #ubuntu that an apt-get dist-upgrade by changing the sources.list is not recommended.. obviously there is something like an update-manager that handles this job more smoothly
[09:02] <zorglu_> "ubuntu guide pdf" in google and click on first link <- dthacker-lt
[09:02] <vzduch> I can't tell, I started off w/ Feisty
[09:03] <dthacker-lt> zorglu: tnx
[09:03] <toma> vzduch: i'm experienced, i dont mind a rough ride
[09:03] <frojnd> what's the difference between: dmesg and lspci ?
[09:03] <zorglu_> frojnd: well 2 different things all together :)
[09:04] <zorglu_> frojnd: once dump the 'content' of the pci bus, the other dumps all the messages from the kernel
[09:04] <vzduch> I'd say, in either case you'd have to back up important stuff.. so if you feel up to it, try a dist-upgrade :D
[09:04] <Yorokobi> frojnd, dmesg is the kernel's output during boot. lspci looks at the PCI table and spits out the results in a fairly readable way
[09:04] <rixxon> glxinfo says direct rendering: no, but beryl works - although it lags alot. any reason for this?
[09:04] <jhutchins> toma: The system structure has changed a lot, which is why a clean install is going to be better.
[09:04] <frojnd> Tnx bouth of u
[09:04] <dthacker-lt> zorglu: sorry, dead link
[09:04] <zorglu_> rixxon: because the rendering is indirect, aka done by software, so it is slow
[09:04] <jhutchins> toma: Dapper to edgy and edgy to feisty upgrades are a big improvement, but breezy is pretty far back, and the upgrade path from breezy to dapper is not so good.
[09:05] <vzduch> my last dist-upgrade was between Kanotix releases in 2004
[09:05] <rixxon> zorglu_: but radeon should be supported right?
[09:06] <jarn> Is there a way to provide input to a program in a script? For example, checkinstall?
[09:06] <zorglu_> dthacker-lt: google more then :)
[09:06] <zorglu_> !tab | dthacker-lt
[09:06] <ubotu> dthacker-lt: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[09:06] <zorglu_> rixxon: yep i got one :)
[09:07] <zorglu_> rixxon: but you need to install it. ask on #ubuntu-effects for help, they are the one handling beryl and stuff
[09:07] <dthacker-lt> zorglu_: I guess you could say my typo was underscored.... :) off to google....
[09:08] <zorglu_> i answer a lot of question and nobody answer mine, oin oin
[09:08] <zorglu_> q. i installed feisty 3days ago, before i add edgy, now i got firefox crashing quite a lot when playing flash video, is this a known issue ?
[09:09] <jhutchins> zorglu_: How does konq do on the same sites?
[09:10] <Sanne> zorglu_: I don't know, but you could search for issues at launchpad here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[09:10] <Yorokobi> zorglu_, does about:plugins list the latest version of the flash player? If not (or even if it does) download it from Adobe and re-install it.
[09:10] <Yorokobi> or try the gnash plugin for mozilla
[09:10] <zorglu_> jhutchins: i would have to test more, but konqueror got trouble on its own, aka it plays only the sound of the video, while the video image stays black
[09:10] <vzduch> I heard someone say this morning that this might be a packaging issue b/c Firefox installed directly from the installer is said to be more stable
[09:11] <Sanne> zorglu_: I have firefox manually installed from mozilla.org and the latest flash player, if you want, I can test one of your links where firefox crashes.
[09:12] <zorglu_> Sanne: unfortunatly it is internal only, but do you experience frequent crash when playing video ? and how often do you look at video ?
[09:13] <Sanne> zorglu_: to be honest, I have flash deactivated most of the time and only look at flash video about once every few days.. I didn't have a crash so far, though.
[09:13] <zorglu_> Sanne: ok thanks
[09:14] <Arwen> vzduch, ah, I believe official Mozilla Firefox is slightly faster, but I have doubts about more stable
[09:14] <rixxon> zorglu_: alright, thanks
[09:14] <vzduch> atm I try not to use Firefox, don't have it installed right now
[09:15] <vzduch> quick test w/ Konq on video.google.com showed normal behaviour playing videos w/ kmplayer-plugin
[09:15] <zorglu_> Sanne: thinking about it, this may be my own page... triggering this bug
[09:15] <Sanne> zorglu_: you could try with a clean profile... sometimes firefox gets in it's way when you used a profile for long (at least mine does... I have to clean up from time to time)
[09:15] <Sanne> zorglu_: ah :)
[09:15] <zorglu_> Sanne: a fairly normal one tho. but if the bug is not known it is most likely on my side :)
[09:16] <Sanne> zorglu_: did you validate the page? Not that it should crash if it doesn't validate, but just in case...
[09:16] <zorglu_> Arwen: it does
[09:17] <Arwen> then how can you play it with kmplayer?
[09:17] <Sanne> zorglu_: in case you want to validate: http://validator.w3.org/
[09:17] <zorglu_> Sanne: no it is not a trouble of html :) this is clearly a bug, it is when i load/reload flash object
[09:17] <Sanne> ah
[09:17] <zorglu_> Sanne: sometime after a few download it crash
[09:17] <zorglu_> Sanne: download = load/reload flash object
[09:18] <zorglu_> Sanne:  i will test on normal site like youtube, maybe it is me
[09:18] <vzduch> k, looks like I mixed something up.. my apologies :)
[09:18] <zorglu_> Sanne: thank
[09:18] <zorglu_> s
[09:18] <Sanne> zorglu_: then I would try with a clean profile. You can start firefox with "firefox --ProfileManager" to make a new profile.
[09:19] <frojnd> Yorokobi: after I install dirver, I just go to system settings -> and network connections ?
[09:19] <Sanne> zorglu_: ok, you're welcome, good luck :)
[09:19] <frojnd> or where do I put username and password and ISP
[09:19] <zorglu_> Sanne: ok trying the profile stuff
[09:19] <Sanne> zorglu_: make that "firefox -ProfileManager" (sorry)
[09:21] <MaTiAz> What's the Linux equivalent of Windows' chkdsk /f?
[09:21] <SlimeyPete> fsck is the chkdsk equivalent. Not sure what /f does.
[09:21] <zorglu_> Sanne: it crash with the new profile too
[09:22] <zorglu_> $ firefox --ProfileManager
[09:22] <zorglu_> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[09:22] <zorglu_> :)
[09:22] <MaTiAz> SlimeyPete: Thanks, /f fixes the possible errors the program finds
[09:22] <zorglu_> Sanne: in between i did a new profile and played with my stuff a bit:)
[09:22] <vzduch> fsck -C /dev/$deviceName
[09:22] <vzduch> afaik there is an autofix option somewhere.. try man fsck for details
[09:23] <zorglu_> !fsck
[09:23] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[09:23] <Sanne> zorglu_: doesn't sound good. At least it's not your profile. maybe it's the flash plugin in connection with your page. You don't have the option to upload your flash file somewhere? I would test.
[09:24] <zorglu_> Sanne: let me think how i can do that :)
[09:25] <Sanne> zorglu_: ok :)
[09:25] <zorglu_> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[09:26] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:26] <zorglu_> lazy bot :)
[09:26] <Evolution2> lol
[09:27] <Admiral_Chicago> !gpg
[09:27] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[09:27] <Schuenemann> I need help configuring my Geforce nvidia video card in feisty! I already read the wiki and wasn't able to do it.
[09:30] <Schuenemann> is it that impossible? no one ever replies to that :-/
[09:30] <yuriy> Schuenemann: what was the problem?
[09:30] <Schuenemann> I can't set my graphic card, that is the problem
[09:31] <Schuenemann> I tried what the wiki said and got a black screen, had to restart and replace the xorg.conf
[09:31] <yuriy> i mean you said you tried following the directions on the wiki, what was the problem you ran into?
[09:31] <Schuenemann> in safe mode
[09:31] <yuriy> oh
[09:31] <yuriy> what vid card do you have?
[09:32] <Schuenemann> nvidia geforce 256 32 M
[09:32] <zenix> can someone take me step-by-step to install Qt4 only, not anything KDE4 relates?
[09:32] <zenix> *related
[09:32] <Schuenemann> it was ok in edgy, but the wiki has no specific instructions for feisty (only for ubuntu)
[09:32] <yuriy>  iirc that needs the legacy drivers, did you install nvidia-glx-legacy?
[09:32] <nosrednaekim> zenix: yep, search through adept for anything qt4 related and install it
[09:33] <Schuenemann> yes
[09:33] <Schuenemann> I installed it
[09:33] <zenix> nosrednaekim: that returns the -kdecopy versions of the qt4 libraries
[09:33] <zenix> which i don't need to install
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> only those?
[09:33] <zenix> well, and some pyqt4 packages ;)
[09:33] <omega__> how can i set my nfs server
[09:33] <omega__> ?
[09:34] <zenix> btw, i'm using KPackage. Is this the possible problem?
[09:34] <yuriy> then you did nvidia-glx-config enable?
[09:34] <Schuenemann> wait
[09:34] <Schuenemann> !nvidia
[09:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:34] <nosrednaekim> zenix: yeah, use adept
[09:34] <zenix> but apitiude doesn't return qt4-dev
[09:34] <Schuenemann> let me open the wiki
[09:34] <zenix> will try
[09:35] <dc2448> Guys - I can't boot looks like my disk is fried  - booting off a live cd has let me see the following - anyone got any bright ideas? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27661/
[09:35] <nosrednaekim> zenix: its called libqt4-dev
[09:35] <Schuenemann> yuriy, earlier version = newer?
[09:35] <zenix> nosrednaekim: that isn't listed when i do a search
[09:35] <zenix> loading Adept now
[09:36] <zorglu_> Sanne: ok i went further and did a "mv .mozilla .mozilla_backup" to be sure, and it still crash :)
[09:36] <nosrednaekim> zenix: you have all the repositories enabled
[09:36] <yuriy> Schuenemann: i'm guessing that i just said what it says for edgy. that does still work on feisty
[09:36] <zenix> nosrednaekim: wow, real smart of me >.< qt4-dev is already installed :PP
[09:36] <nosrednaekim> !info libqt4-dev
[09:36] <zenix> sorry about that
[09:36] <ubotu> libqt4-dev: Qt 4 development files. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.3-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 4100 kB, installed size 20048 kB
[09:36] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[09:36] <Sanne> zorglu_: yeah, so it *really* isn't your profile :)
[09:37] <yuriy> Schuenemann: kubuntu doesn't have the restricted manager yet that the feisty instructions on there refer to
[09:37] <zorglu_> Sanne: :)
[09:37] <Schuenemann> yuriy, sudo nvidia-xconfig this is for egdy
[09:38] <nosrednaekim> dc2448: what does dmesg say?
[09:38] <Sanne> zorglu_: you could try the firefox from mozilla.org. It's a bit handywork, but basically you just get the tarball, extract it to some folder for testing purposes and run it from there, shouldn't interfere with your system.
[09:38] <Schuenemann> yuriy, 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' had no output. Is that normal?
[09:38] <zorglu_> Sanne: ok trying :)
[09:38] <Sanne> zorglu_: :)
[09:38] <yuriy> Schuenemann: i think it usually says something like made backup copy in...
[09:39] <Schuenemann> hmm =/
[09:39] <Schuenemann> yuriy, maybe I have to edit manually the xorg.conf has the wiki suggests (I remember I did that in edgy)
[09:40] <not_a_k> is there a way to add a second external taskbar?
[09:40] <zorglu_> Sanne: the one provided by http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html is the 2.0.0.4 aka the same as feisty one. which version is yours ?
[09:40] <yuriy> you could try that
[09:40] <Schuenemann> I'll log out, brb
[09:40] <zorglu_> !info firefox
[09:40] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0.4+1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 9012 kB, installed size 28592 kB
[09:40] <not_a_k> lightweight?
[09:41] <Sanne> zorglu_: also 2.0.0.4. But I would still test it, the ubuntu one might have been patched.
[09:41] <dc2448> nosrednaekim: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27662/
[09:41] <zorglu_> Sanne: ok in progress:)
[09:42] <Sanne> zorglu_: :)
[09:43] <not_a_k> i tried to just add a normal panel and add a task list to it. but the "expand as required" bit isn't working
[09:43] <not_a_k> it works beautifully on an external task bar
[09:43] <zorglu_> Sanne: oh little issue, the one direct from the directory doesnt have a flash player obviously
[09:43] <Sanne> zorglu_: let me think
[09:44] <Sanne> zorglu_: you did backup your ~/.mozilla, yes?
[09:44] <Schuenemann> yuriy, nothing =(
[09:45] <zorglu_> firefox$ cp /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplayer.xpt /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so plugins/ <- Sanne here it what im trying
[09:45] <nosrednaekim> dc2448: ok it mounts hdb1..... what is hdb1, and what is hdb3?
[09:45] <zorglu_> Sanne: yep i did
[09:45] <dc2448> hdb1 is /home /hdb3 is /
[09:46] <zorglu_> Sanne: ok now it got a flash player :) i got those 2 files from dpkg -L flashplugin-nonfree
[09:46] <Evolution2> whats the best media player for linux
[09:46] <Sanne> zorglu_: I have my flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so at: ~/.mozilla/plugins, where it gets found by my hand installed firefox.
[09:46] <nosrednaekim> dc2448: looks like your / is corrupted or something, try doing mount without the "-t ext3"
[09:46] <Sanne> zorglu_: ok :)
[09:47] <Miltos01> should I use easyubuntu or automatix in order to enrich my kubuntu v7.04?
[09:47] <Schuenemann> yuriy, I editted xorg.conf, brb
[09:47] <dc2448> nosrednaekim: I have - it says please specify filesystem
[09:47] <Sanne> zorglu_: and does it crash?
[09:48] <nosrednaekim> dc2448: try -a
[09:48] <zorglu_> $ ./firefox
[09:48] <zorglu_> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[09:48] <zorglu_> Sanne: yep
[09:48] <Arwen> haha
[09:49] <zorglu_> Sanne: and i got a weird crash handler that i got trouble kill :)
[09:49] <dc2448> nosrednaekim: - -a just means all
[09:49] <Sanne> zorglu_: so it's not the ubuntu firefox. either it's firefox in general, or your flash file in connection with the player.
[09:49] <Schuenemann> yuriy, are you still there?
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> dc2448: oh ;) thought it meant autodetect
[09:49] <yuriy> sort of
[09:49] <Schuenemann> now the nvidia logo appeared, but my resolution is 800x600 and I can't change it
[09:49] <zorglu_> Sanne: or the flash plugin itself
[09:49] <Sanne> zorglu_: now you can only try other options, like, ask others to try the flash file, try other flash players, etc...
[09:50] <webbserver> hello?
[09:50] <Sanne> zorglu_: or that, yes :)
[09:50] <dc2448> no - and reading through fstab isn't going to do much on a live cd is it?
[09:50] <StErGi0s> any app close to photoshop for kubuntu?
[09:50] <Schuenemann> and I still tons of errors if I type glxinfo
[09:50] <webbserver> guessing this is kununtu help channel?
[09:50] <SlimeyPete> StErGi0s: gimp's the best
[09:50] <TeraDyne> webbserver: you'd be right
[09:51] <zorglu_> Sanne: in fact, i noticed that youtube/googlevideo are reloading the whole page everytime they change movies... and i always wondered why. as it is ugly and inefficient... this bug may be the reason
[09:51] <StErGi0s> SlimeyPete: thank ya
[09:51] <yuriy> Schuenemann: something to try would be to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the nvidia driver there
[09:51] <dthacker-lt> StErGi0s: gimp or krita
[09:51] <webbserver> cool cool, I've just installed Linux for first time - haveing a few intial problems
[09:51] <yuriy> i g2g though
[09:51] <zorglu_> Sanne: let me rephrase. *may* be the reason
[09:51] <zorglu_> Sanne: in anycase, thanks for your help :)
[09:51] <Sanne> zorglu_: hmmm, but it shouldn't crash
[09:51] <Schuenemann> I tried that I think
[09:51] <Sanne> zorglu_: you're welcome, good luck :)
[09:51] <webbserver> first one being - when loaded up, monitor displays screen fine, however my projector (BenQ W100) displays somewhat white noise instead of a display... works fine in MS DOS but goes stupid when in kubuntu
[09:51] <juan278> how can install grub to a 2nd hard drive (so it stays on both)?
[09:51] <Schuenemann> but it messed my keyboard settings and didn't help the video problem
[09:52] <webbserver> any ideas
[09:52] <webbserver> haven't tried changing ANYTHING yet...
[09:52] <vzduch> my Nvidia driver is running.. but glxinfo segfaults
[09:52] <dc2448> juan278: grub-install /dev/devicename
[09:52] <Schuenemann> now I can't use kdesu anymore
[09:52] <Schuenemann> this SUCKS
[09:52] <ctkroeker> booting any linux live cd gets me an initramfs error. I already tried using diff RAM modules... any ideas?
[09:53] <vzduch> Schuenemann: did you perhaps use 'dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'?
[09:53] <vzduch> that messed up my keyboard settings earlier too
[09:53] <Schuenemann> I don't remember well what was the command
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> webbserver: what graphics card do you have?
[09:53] <vzduch> if you leave the option out, it asks you everything related to xorg.conf, including keyboard settings
[09:53] <Schuenemann> which options
[09:54] <vzduch> Schuenemann: the -phigh switch
[09:54] <webbserver> not a clue but i'll have a look nosred, ALl i know is it worked fine in XP... i THIHNK its ATI, but ill have a look and be more specific for you
[09:54] <Schuenemann> I'll try with that
[09:54] <vzduch> Schuenemann: no, without
[09:54] <Schuenemann> oops
[09:54] <TeraDyne> webbserver: try running "lspci" in a terminal window.
[09:55] <webbserver> just type that in konsole?
[09:55] <TeraDyne> yes
[09:55] <webbserver> aah
[09:56] <Schuenemann> vzduch, should I use that kernel framebuffer?
[09:56] <webbserver> ATI technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] 
[09:56] <webbserver> saves me taking the card out lol
[09:56] <vzduch> Schuenemann: if you're not running on framebuffer right now, it's not necessary
[09:57] <Schuenemann> I don't know if I'm running that
[09:57] <nosrednaekim> heh... ok, I think that card should be supported just fine by the opensource drivers
[09:57] <vzduch> normally only necessary for laptops and some screens with 'unusual' resolutions
[09:57] <Schuenemann> ok
[09:58] <webbserver> btw teradyne how do i send message straight to u
[09:58] <nosrednaekim> webbserver: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ATI_Mobility_Radeon_X300
[09:59] <Schuenemann> vzduch, dammit, I don't know the answer to those questions, I think I'll mess everything
[09:59] <vzduch> Schuenemann: what questions exactly?
[09:59] <webbserver> ok what am i looking at
[09:59] <Schuenemann> mouse protocol
[09:59] <Schuenemann> for example
[10:00] <Schuenemann> imps2, explorerps2
[10:00] <vzduch> the one selected by default should do.. if not, you can always run it again :)
[10:00] <nosrednaekim> webbserver: the link I sent was an explanation of how to get monitor switching working.
[10:00] <nosrednaekim> webbserver: you basically need to go get the proprietary ati driver.
[10:01] <Schuenemann> vzduch, ok, done
[10:01] <webbserver> well im lost already.. lol
[10:01] <Schuenemann> if I don't get the GUI login, I have to replace the xorg.conf with the backup, right?
[10:01] <webbserver> basically then i not got proper driver installed for card, and its resulting in a display which appears messed up
[10:01] <vzduch> that would do for the time being, yes
[10:01] <Schuenemann> brb
[10:02] <webbserver> Cause its picking up something, when things change on screen, the monitor screen changes too, can vaguely see stuff behind the fuzz
[10:02] <nosrednaekim> webbserver: sent you  private message
[10:03] <rixon> Is there some problems with the ubuntu rubygems package? After installing rails I have no rails command...
[10:03] <Schuenemann> vzduch, everything messed and the video is the same
[10:04] <webbserver> damn i cant speak in private
[10:04] <vzduch> define 'messed'
[10:04] <Schuenemann> wrong keyboard layout
[10:04] <vzduch> then you didn't select the proper layout
[10:04] <Schuenemann> screen not in the correct position and any glx command outputs errors
[10:05] <nosrednaekim> webbserver: its ok. basically you need to install the fglrx driver
[10:05] <nosrednaekim> !find fglrx
[10:05] <ubotu> Found: fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx, xorg-driver-fglrx-dev, fglrx-kernel-source
[10:05] <webbserver> right, is that on the link you sent me
[10:05] <vzduch> as for glx commands, I don't get GLX running either.. but at least my driver works
[10:05] <Schuenemann> yeah, I didn't see a suitable option... anyway, the most important part was the video, which is still wrong =
[10:05] <webbserver> i put that where? (sorry for being extremely newb).. so used to XP
[10:05] <nosrednaekim> no, that was just a refernce saying you needed it
[10:05] <webbserver> konsole?
[10:05] <Schuenemann> vzduch, I can't run glxgears
[10:05] <vzduch> neither can I
[10:06] <nosrednaekim> webbserver: run this command: "sudo apt-get xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control"
[10:06] <nosrednaekim> in the konsole
[10:06] <Schuenemann> can you run blender
[10:06] <vzduch> it is possible if I add 'Option "RenderAccel" "true"' to xorg.conf by hand, but then my system gets volatile and freezes at random points
[10:06] <Schuenemann> that was a question (I don't know where the question mark is anymore)
[10:07] <webbserver> asks for password
[10:07] <nosrednaekim> webbserver: give it yours
[10:07] <vzduch> in the "Device" section where "nvidia" is placed in, that is
[10:07] <vzduch> I don't know blender, what is it?
[10:07] <Schuenemann> graphic application that uses glx
[10:07] <vzduch> don't have it installed, I guess..
[10:08] <jenny_> hello
[10:08] <Schuenemann> I'll replace my xorg with the old one
[10:08] <vzduch> but, as I said, glxinfo segfaults w/ me
[10:09] <Schuenemann> sudo isn't asking for password anymore, why
[10:09] <gnomefreak> Schuenemann: dont use ot for 15 minutes
[10:09] <gnomefreak> s/ot/it
[10:09] <webbserver> It came up with: E: Invalid Operation xorg-driver-fgirx
[10:09] <nosrednaekim> Schuenemann: it only asks once for every 115 minutes or so in the same konwole
[10:09] <nosrednaekim> *15
[10:09] <Schuenemann> nosrednaekim, I have logged out
[10:09] <Arwen> webbserver, apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:10] <nosrednaekim> webbserver: heh sorry
[10:10] <nosrednaekim> yeah...
[10:10] <nosrednaekim> do Arwen's
[10:10] <Arwen> also, you can clear sudo's saved password with "sudo -k"
[10:10] <Arwen> dunno about kdesu
[10:10] <webbserver> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock -- open (13 Permission denied)
[10:11] <Arwen> ......................
[10:11] <Arwen> you have to be root
[10:11] <Arwen> !terminal | webbserver
[10:11] <webbserver> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dojg/). Are you root?
[10:11] <ubotu> webbserver: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:11] <Arwen> kindly read that
[10:12] <nosrednaekim> webbserver: Arwen forgot to put sudo on that command the correct command is "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx"
[10:12] <Arwen> I didn't forget, sudo isn't part of the command
[10:12] <webbserver> Resource temporarily unavailable, is anotehr process using it?
[10:13] <webbserver> lmao.... this could be fustrating
[10:13] <gekkoo> does anybody know if there's a gui for graphviz?
[10:13] <Arwen> webbserver, do you have adept open? only 1 process can use apt at a time
[10:13] <Arwen> otherwise b0rk4g3 would happen
[10:13] <webbserver> yeah
[10:13] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix | webbserver
[10:13] <ubotu> webbserver: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:13] <webbserver> guessing i close that then
[10:13] <Arwen> yeah
[10:14] <webbserver> aha
[10:14] <webbserver> success and failure
[10:14] <webbserver> said
[10:15] <webbserver> building dependency tree; Reading state information... one; E: Coulnd't find package xorg-driver-fgirx
[10:15] <nosrednaekim> did I type that wrong again?
[10:15] <nosrednaekim> its "fglrx"
[10:15] <Arwen> webbserver, fglrx...
[10:15] <webbserver> aah l
[10:15] <nosrednaekim> not "fgirx"
[10:16] <Arwen> (don't ask me why they couldn't have just called it ati)
[10:16] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. I know.
[10:16] <webbserver> after yboacjubg 29.7MB of additional disc space will be used... guessing i Continue
[10:16] <nosrednaekim> yeah continue
[10:16] <webbserver> looking good
[10:16] <webbserver> damn this is a strange way to install drivers lol
[10:17] <nosrednaekim> webbserver: ok. do you understand what you are doing?
[10:17] <webbserver> downloading the package files for the ATI drivers as a guess
[10:17] <nosrednaekim> webbserver: the ati drivers are in the ubuntu repositories, you are downloading them and installing them from there. Believe me, far easier than DL from the ATI site
[10:17] <webbserver> i know adept is some sort of package manager that allows you to downloda applications etec
[10:18] <nosrednaekim> webbserver: yeah, and it uses apt-get as its backend
[10:18] <webbserver> ok so if thats finished and gone back to webbserver:webb-server:-$
[10:18] <webbserver> im guessing its installed
[10:18] <nosrednaekim> webbserver: nope, its finished
[10:18] <webbserver> so whats next
[10:18] <super_> hello, i need adsl auto connect
[10:19] <webbserver> or do i go into adept now to install the downloaded package
[10:19] <nosrednaekim> webbserver: nope, its already installed, just a second while I find the command to run to snable the ATI dribver
[10:19] <webbserver> ok
[10:19] <webbserver> any sort of restart required when I enable the driver?
[10:19] <nosrednaekim> webbserver: you have to restart the X server
[10:20] <nosrednaekim> run this command "aticonfig --initial"
[10:20] <webbserver> agggg
[10:21] <nosrednaekim> sorry "sudo aticonfig --initial"
[10:21] <fiore> hello
[10:21] <nosrednaekim> if it says not enough permission to anything, always put sudo before the command. sudo means run with admin rights
[10:21] <webbserver> Unitialised file found, configuring. ;; Using /etc/xll/xorg.conf ;; Saved back-up to /etc/xll/xorg.conf.original-0 ;; aticonig: rwiting to /etc/xll/xorg.conf failed. Bad file descriptor
[10:22] <webbserver> oooh ill try putting sudo
[10:22] <webbserver> says
[10:23] <nosrednaekim> webbserver: unfortuantely, I have to go. Someone else will help you.
[10:23] <webbserver> writing to 'etc/xll/xorg.conf failed. No such file or directory. No ATI fglrx device was found in the file /etc/xll/xorg.conf'. ;;;     Please run 'aticonfig --intial or change the driver part of your configuration file to fglrx and run aticonfig again
[10:23] <webbserver> damn ok then
[10:24] <nosrednaekim> sorry
[10:24] <nosrednaekim> !ati
[10:24] <webbserver> no worries, anyway i can add you to a buddy list?
[10:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:24] <nosrednaekim> might help you
[10:24] <nosrednaekim> sure
[10:24] <webbserver> !ati ?
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <ardchoille> webbserver: There is no /etc/x11/xorg.conf, there is however a /etc/X11/xorg.conf  Note the "X" as opposed to the "x")
[10:24] <nosrednaekim> hmm thats odd...why does atconfig do that?
[10:24] <webbserver> it says on Xll one
[10:25] <ardchoille> webbserver: That's not what you just posted
[10:25] <ardchoille> x11 != X11
[10:25] <webbserver> I forgot the caps.. didn't realise it would be case sensitive
[10:25] <webbserver> ardchoille you been following what he said?
[10:26] <Schuenemann> hi, the 'sudo' command is not asking for password anymore
[10:26] <ardchoille> No, just noticed why it said No such file or dir
[10:26] <Schuenemann> what could that be?
[10:26] <ardchoille> Schuenemann: It caches the pass for 15 minutes
[10:26] <Schuenemann> ardchoille, I just logged in
[10:26] <UbuntuServerUser> when running quotacheck -avugm I get this eerror:  Quota for users is enabled on mountpoint /srv so quotacheck might damage the file. Help?
[10:26] <webbserver> it said "Writing to 'etc/Xll/xorg.conf' failed no usch file / directory
[10:27] <ardchoille> webbserver: And I'm guessing your x doesn't work
[10:27] <klaw> hello everyone.. I'm new in the linux community.. I can chat here but I can't surf with Konqueror!??
[10:27] <webbserver> dont know.. i was just following his instructions loll
[10:27] <klaw> An error occurred while loading http://www.google.com:
[10:27] <klaw> Could not connect to host http://www.google.com/
[10:27] <klaw> could someone help me plz?
[10:27] <UbuntuServerUser> klaw, why not use firefox?
[10:28] <ardchoille> webbserver: open a term and type:  file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:28] <UbuntuServerUser> klaw, its better supported
[10:28] <klaw> i would like to but i need to download it first..
[10:28] <UbuntuServerUser> klaw, apt-get firefox
[10:29] <webbserver> ERROR: cannot open '/etc/Xll/xorg.conf' (No such file or directory)
[10:29] <klaw> apt -get firefow?
[10:29] <ardchoille> webbserver: Your xorg.conf file is gone
[10:29] <gurumeditationer> Is anyone having problem play ogg files in xine?
[10:29] <klaw> could u xplain?
[10:29] <klaw> I'm new here... ffff
[10:29] <Arwen> gurumeditationer, explain. Also, what kind of OGG? Vorbis? Theora? Speex? FLAC? MPEG-4?
[10:29] <webbserver> guesisng thats bda? llo
[10:29] <webbserver> bad even
[10:30] <ardchoille> webbserver: It is if you plan to use kde, lol
[10:30] <gurumeditationer> .ogg files as in vorbis
[10:30] <UbuntuServerUser> klaw, your using kubuntu? Open add or remove programs
[10:30] <gurumeditationer> libxine says:
[10:30] <webbserver> KDE's kubuntu right.. lol
[10:30] <klaw> kubuntu yeah..
[10:30] <ardchoille> webbserver: You can write a new xorg.conf with:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:31] <klaw> I have to type this 'apt -get firefox' in konsole?
[10:31] <Schuenemann> hi, the 'sudo' command is not asking for password anymore. What can I do?
[10:31] <UbuntuServerUser> yes or that
[10:31] <gurumeditationer> "there is no demuxer plugin avaiable to handle 'music_file_name.ogg'
[10:31] <ardchoille> klaw: sudo apt-get install firefox   <-- that will install the firefox browser
[10:31] <Arwen> klaw, no space between apt and "-get"
[10:31] <Arwen> gurumeditationer, huh, so it doesn't recognize the ogg *container*, that's a new one
[10:31] <TeraDyne> webbserver: did you type Xll or X11?
[10:31] <webbserver> asks me to select a X server driver
[10:31] <gurumeditationer> How can that happen? Vorbis, is totally free, is it not?
[10:31] <webbserver> Xll..
[10:31] <klaw> okay mates, thanks,; I'll try it now
[10:31] <webbserver> letter L in lowercase
[10:32] <TeraDyne> webbserver: It's X11
[10:32] <ardchoille> webbserver: it's X11  X one one
[10:32] <webbserver> omg.. 1
[10:32] <TeraDyne> XD
[10:32] <Schuenemann> Arwen, I think you said a command to clear the cache, can you repeat it?
[10:32] <gurumeditationer> Totally crazy problem, isn't it? I've found no solution in the last week, it's embarassing.
[10:32] <webbserver> ok ermm how i quit this package configuration thing? lmao
[10:32] <Arwen> Schuenemann, when?
[10:32] <Arwen> and what cache?
[10:32] <ardchoille> webbserver: ctrl+c
[10:32] <Schuenemann> Arwen, sudo password cache heh
[10:32] <webbserver> doesnt wanna know
[10:32] <Schuenemann> a few minutes ago
[10:32] <webbserver> ill reopen a konsole
[10:33] <webbserver> ok
[10:33] <Arwen> oh, sudo -k
[10:33] <ardchoille> TeraDyne: Good catch (ll 11)
[10:33] <Schuenemann> ahh, thanks
[10:33] <webbserver> aha now it finds it
[10:33] <Schuenemann> works now
[10:33] <webbserver> ASCII english text, with very long lines
[10:33] <KjetilK__> I'm wondering about the status of the iwlwifi driver in gutsy
[10:34] <KjetilK__> If I do a file search for it it seems only the microcode is in
[10:34] <KjetilK__> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=iwlwifi&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=gutsy&arch=i386
[10:34] <webbserver> ok so when i type sudo aticonfig -- initial, how come it tries writing to /etc/Xll/xorg.conf?
[10:34] <KjetilK__> in feisty, there are more results
[10:34] <TeraDyne> ardchoille: I'm just glad I happend to take my eyes off my Wiki at just the right time
[10:35] <ardchoille> TeraDyne: Small world, I was working on my wiki too when I noticed his problem.
[10:35] <KjetilK__> uhm, I should have been in ubuntu+1...
[10:36] <Lunar_Lamp> Is it possible to convert a server install to a desktop install? (feisty)
[10:37] <ardchoille> Lunar_Lamp: You can install kubuntu-desktop to get the desktop components
[10:37] <webbserver> anyone got any ideas (or anyone good with ATI cards so i can tell em what iv done so far and resolve the rest?)
[10:37] <Lunar_Lamp> ardchoille, awesome, thanks.  i presume that includes X etc?
[10:38] <ardchoille> Lunar_Lamp: You may also need xserver-xorg-core  not sure if kubuntu-desktop will install it
[10:38] <ardchoille> Lunar_Lamp: kubuntu-desktop is a meta package, it exists solely to pull in the desktop stuff. I forget if it also pulls in xorg or not.
[10:39] <Lunar_Lamp> ardchoille, just checked and the ubuntu one does, so i presume kubuntu does also
[10:39] <vzduch> question: how do I enable 3D acceleration after installing nvidia-glx-legacy? the driver works, I get the Nvidia logo on startup of X
[10:39] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[10:39] <Arwen> vzduch, eh... you sure you have a legacy card? does glxinfo | grep direct say "no"?
[10:40] <vzduch> Arwen: I'm dead sure I have a legacy card.. worked absolutely flawless on openSUSE
[10:40] <vzduch> Arwen: btw, glxinfo segfaults on me
[10:40] <Arwen> hmm, just sounds like broken drivers :-)
[10:41] <vzduch> hmm, if they're broken, it's either Nvidia's fault or that of the packager
[10:41] <UbuntuFeisty> hi
[10:41] <UbuntuFeisty> who is a bot?
[10:41] <ardchoille> !bot
[10:41] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:42] <udi> .
[10:43] <vzduch> Arwen: apart from that, you don't want to tell me earnestly that a GF2 works w/ the 'standard' nvidia-glx? ;)
[10:43] <Arwen> hehe, not a chance
[10:44] <venik> has anyone ever used Simple Backup?  Were you able to restore the backup?
[10:44] <UbuntuFeisty> ubotu: PT
[10:44] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[10:44] <venik> it says: restoring for HOURS, and there is no progress bar or anything to let me know if it is stuck or actually working
[10:49] <dv8n11> how can one use a deb file to install a package
[10:49] <venik> cann anyone recommend some other, preferably functioning, backup program?
[10:49] <Arwen> dpkg -i file
[10:50] <venik> I am running kubuntu 7.04
[10:50] <dv8n11> venik cpio works well
[10:50] <dv8n11> tanks arwin
[10:50] <dv8n11> Arwen:
[10:50] <dv8n11> soory
[10:55] <venik> well, that was not that productive...
[10:58] <webbserver> having problems installing an ATI graphics driver, can someone help please?
[10:59] <TeraDyne> !ati | webbserver
[10:59] <ubotu> webbserver: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:00] <systest> Ok how do I make avahi go away?  It's not /etc/init.d, doesn't seem to be /etc/dbus/event.d
[11:01] <webbserver> looking at that page terra, i am down to the sudo aticonfig --initial
[11:01] <webbserver> but it  dont play ball
[11:02] <TeraDyne> webbserver: How so? can you be a bit more specific?
[11:02] <webbserver> well it says saved backup etc, but then it says writing to /etc/X11/xorg.conf' failed. bad file descriptor
[11:03] <webbserver> mind u i never saw sudo depmod -a .. no-one told me to put that
[11:03] <webbserver> if i put that, would it work after?
[11:04] <TeraDyne> webbserver: unfourtunatly, I can;t help you there.
[11:04] <webbserver> no worries
[11:04] <Jahman> hi
[11:05] <webbserver> anyone know?
[11:06] <webbserver> hmm should probably try the 7.04 quick way first..?
[11:06] <Spudchat> hello! I was wondering if anyone ever had a problem with the live cd/installer where it would keep saying "You can't have the end before the beginning" or something like that. I'm trying to install kubuntu on my new machine, but that keeps blocking the path :\
[11:06] <Spudchat> that happens when I'm trying to partition the drive btw
[11:07] <systest>  * grumble * /etc/default .  Isn't that special.
[11:07] <ubuntu__> vai toma no cu
[11:07] <ubuntu__> fodase
[11:08] <ubuntu__> kk
[11:08] <ubuntu__> l
[11:09] <webbserver> argh im gona squeal
[11:11] <xst> I try to burn a Cd with k3b but it claims that no blank CD is in the drive. It says "please insert blank Cd" in the window where I should normally just press "burn". Why?
[11:11] <yourfriend> spudchat >>is that a dual boot machine?
[11:12] <Spudchat> nope, fresh install on a machine i just finished building
[11:12] <yourfriend> spudchat >>did u try gparted live cd?
[11:12] <Spudchat> no..i kinda figured that ubuntu would do it for me :o
[11:12] <yourfriend> spudchat >>or Knoppix?
[11:12] <TeraDyne> xst: Stupid questions, do you have a blank CD in the drive and are you sure it's blank?
[11:13] <yourfriend> spudchat >> well did you do a MD5 of the iso you downloaded to make sure its not corrupted
[11:13] <mo0osah> !bin file
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin file - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <Spudchat> yup, it all came back fine...MD5 from site matched the download and k3b said it burned with no errors and the "Verify Written Data" option was on
[11:14] <TeraDyne> Spudchat: are you trying to put a lower numbered partition after a higher numbered parition? I've had that message come up before, and I think that was the problem.
[11:15] <Spudchat> Nope, I'm just trying to create / and a swap partition. I can set LVM up later. I set swap at 2 GB and / at 10GB and the machine has plenty of space left.
[11:16] <UbuntuFeisty> I eat active that tablet superior style Mac The?
[11:16] <jhutchins> Spudchat: You may need to use the alt CD and partition it manually.
[11:16] <jhutchins> Spudchat: You're somehow mis-setting the start and endpoints for the partitions.
[11:17] <yourfriend> spud >> you can do it on the cli or use knoppix or somethin else
[11:17] <psynth> Kubuntu doesn't load my sound card half the time at startup, how to "restart" sound drivers on the fly ?
[11:17] <UbuntuFeisty> I eat active that tablet superior style Mac The?
[11:18] <chucktown> Does anyone know what are the best video codecs to download to get video going on my distro?
[11:19] <TeraDyne> UbuntuFeisty: Do what? I can't make sense of what you said.
[11:19] <jhutchins> UbuntuFeisty: English please?
[11:19] <Spudchat> I don't even have an option to set the start/end points for the partitions...the only options there are are Type, New Partition Size, Location, Use as, and Mount Point
[11:19] <TeraDyne> !codecs | chucktown
[11:19] <ubotu> chucktown: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:20] <yourfriend> spudchat >> did you try the Gparted live CD?
[11:20] <jhutchins> install | Spudchat
[11:21] <TeraDyne> install | Megaranger
[11:21] <psynth> Kubuntu doesn't load my sound card half the time at startup, how to "restart" sound drivers on the fly ?
[11:21] <jhutchins> !install | Spudchat
[11:21] <ubotu> Spudchat: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[11:21] <TeraDyne> Only Super Sentai fans would get my joke.
[11:22] <Arwen> wtf is Super Sentai?
[11:22] <yourfriend> yeah
[11:22] <TeraDyne> Arwen: It's what Power Rangers is based off of.
[11:23] <Spudchat> Allright, thanks for the help, but none of those links helped at all. I think I'm just going to pop Etch on there.
[11:23] <jhutchins> ...and the installation partitioning tool costs another one.
[11:24] <TeraDyne> Arwen: Why? PR is kiddy, but Super Sentai isn't so much. Go onto youtube and look for "DekaRanger ep". Watch some of the episodes.
[11:24] <jhutchins> Actually, that's been one of the most difficult sections of the installer for a lot of distros.
[11:24] <Arwen> TeraDyne, f*** no, YouTube = CrapTube
[11:24] <Arwen> gimme a link to a real video if you want me to watch it
[11:24] <jhutchins> Yeah, cause I LOEV my video to be 2"x2".
[11:24] <Arwen> jhutchins, and compressed with a proprietary codec no less
[11:24] <yourfriend> jhutchins >> people just dont understand partitioning or formatting disks at all.
[11:24] <Arwen> even with 32kbit audio
[11:25] <jhutchins> yourfriend: Yep.
[11:25] <Arwen> yourfriend, well, if they don't understand how to use a computer, they probably shouldn't eh?
[11:25] <TeraDyne> Arwen: If I could, I would. Unfourtunately, I don't know of anywhere else to get it.
[11:25] <jhutchins> yourfriend: At best, and the tools are either too inflexible or too unfriendly.
[11:25] <yourfriend> jhutchins >> maybe I will give em OpenBSD then they will run screaming!!!
[11:25] <yourfriend> lol
[11:25] <yourfriend> cut em some slack
[11:25] <UbuntuFeisty> I don't speak English. I'm use Google translator
[11:25] <Arwen> TeraDyne, hmm, ah well. Out of curiosity, is it some of that Japanese cruft?
[11:26] <yourfriend> i dont speak google transulator >> lol
[11:26] <Arwen> UbuntuFeisty, we can tell
[11:26] <jhutchins> UbuntuFeisty: Unfortunately, it's not working, you're saying nonsense.
[11:26] <yourfriend> jhutchins >> lol
[11:26] <Arwen> jhutchins, hehe
[11:26] <Schuenemann> what does he speak?
[11:26] <yourfriend> he speaks nonsense
[11:26] <yourfriend> like my boss
[11:26] <Schuenemann> which language is that?
[11:26] <UbuntuFeisty> I'm speak Brazilian Portuguese
[11:27] <Arwen> so, has anyone tried using Gusty? is it usable (not for production of course, and assuming you have balls)?
[11:27] <yourfriend> Im speaking binary
[11:27] <Arwen> !portugese
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portugese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <Arwen> ....
[11:27] <Schuenemann> !br | UbuntuFeisty
[11:27] <ubotu> UbuntuFeisty: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:27] <TeraDyne> Arwen: most of the SS series is amazing. Some emotional episodes, some silly eps, and some dramatic eps. It's really good.
[11:27] <Arwen> TeraDyne, I simply asked if it was any of that Japanese cruft, lol
[11:28] <TeraDyne> Arwen: My favorites are DekaRanger and MagiRanger. And yes, it's Japanese. But it's still good.
[11:28] <Arwen> lol, jap = fail
[11:28] <Arwen> silly cartoons
 I eat active that tablet superior style Mac The?
 UbuntuFeisty: Do what? I can't make sense of what you said.
[11:28] <jhutchins> I like the one with the airships.
[11:28] <TeraDyne> Arwen: It's live action
[11:28] <Schuenemann> lol this part was funny
[11:28] <Arwen> TeraDyne, hmm? maybe I'll take a look then
[11:29] <yourfriend> off topic - lol jk
[11:29] <Arwen> jhutchins> I like the one with the airships. - ??
[11:30] <Schuenemann> UbuntuFeisty, type this: /join #ubuntu-br
[11:30] <jhutchins> Arwen: Some anime thing that Cartoon Net did about four episodes of.  Unfortunately, four episodes isn't much of a storey arc.  It's like getting one issue of a comic book.
[11:30] <jhutchins> Arwen: Of course, they haven't bothered to translate any more of it.
[11:30] <Arwen> jhutchins, you don't possibly mean Karate Kommandos do you?
[11:30] <jhutchins> Arwen: I doubt it. who knows?
[11:30] <Arwen> it's an anime made by Chuck Norris :-P
[11:30] <Arwen> the definition of bad
[11:31] <yourfriend> Arwen: lol
[11:31] <yourfriend> =P
[11:31] <Arwen> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate_Kommandos <--- I've been trying to get a warezed copy of that for a while, lol
[11:31] <yourfriend> lmao
[11:32] <Arwen> :-)
[11:32] <jhutchins> Arwen: No, this was originally japanese (hence anime).
[11:32] <Arwen> anime is just a contraction for animation...
[11:32] <Arwen> but, meh, who knows?
[11:33] <yourfriend> Arwen >> You like homestarrunner.com?
[11:33] <Arwen> yourfriend, lol, blast from the past eh? I haven't seen that name in a looong time
[11:33] <yourfriend> Arwen >> Its still consistently updated and great
[11:33] <Arwen> ick, flash
[11:34] <yourfriend> Arwen >> I know but its great content.  Adobe sux!  I only use flash playa
[11:35] <yourfriend> Arwen >> they are warming to the FOSS world but still have no real clear understanding of the potential of working with this world
[11:35] <yourfriend> Arwen >> Adobe that is
[11:35] <Arwen> I just think flash is an abomination.... all I've seen it used for is obnoxious unkillable ads
[11:36] <Arwen> and don't get me started on flash for videos...
[11:36] <yourfriend> Arwen >> Uhmmm.  Thats what firefox extentions are for =)
[11:36] <Arwen> yes, I have all javascript and all flash off :-\
[11:36] <jhutchins> I just use my DNS to block adservers.
[11:37] <jhutchins> Covers most of it.
[11:37] <yourfriend> jhuthins >> yeah. You ever look at how much crap traffic comes in general web surfing? Check it out in Etherape or Ntop sometime
[11:38] <coreymon77> jhutchins: i dont need to do thaat
[11:38] <coreymon77> jhutchins: firefox extension does it all for me
[11:38] <yourfriend> Arwen >> just run Lynx the ultimate text browser with NO features
[11:38] <yourfriend> lol
[11:38] <Arwen> w3m > lynx, thank you
[11:39] <Arwen> and they're not features, they're bloat :-)
[11:39] <coreymon77> jhutchins: adblock plus bundled with filterset g updater works like an absolute charm
[11:40] <Arwen> the native lists are good enough
[11:40] <coreymon77> and the best part about it is that it doesnt block the stuff that you want shown (like otehr ad blockers out there)
[11:40] <coreymon77> Arwen: i like using fsg
[11:41] <Arwen> heh, I guess I don't do a lot of surfing then, banning the most obvious ones (e.g. doubleclick.com) seems to do it fer me
[11:41] <jhutchins> coreymon77: I detest firefox and do not use it unless the page won't work in konq.
[11:41] <Arwen> jhutchins, what's wrong with Firefox? o.O
[11:41] <coreymon77> thats the thing, im too lazy to go around banning each one that i see, having filterset.g updater bundled with the abp extension does it all for me automatically
[11:42] <coreymon77> jhutchins: ???
[11:42] <jhutchins> You're still using your bandwidth to receive all the foo.  I never even get it.
[11:42] <coreymon77> jhutchins: no im not, it actually blocks it
[11:42] <jhutchins> It still has bugs in it that I reported when it was mosaic.
[11:42] <jhutchins> coreymon77: You're just filtering it and discarding it when it's downloaded.
[11:42] <Arwen> lol
[11:43] <yourfriend> lol
[11:43] <coreymon77> jhutchins: w/e, its unnoticeable
[11:43] <yourfriend> then use telnet to port 80 everywhere and read the html
[11:43] <Arwen> jhutchins, actually, it works by preventing you from ever even loading the images and stuff
[11:43] <yourfriend> lol
[11:43] <rixon> The RestrictedFormats wiki article confuses me. It appears to claim 7.04 already includes everything except libdvdcss2. Yet I am unable to play this avi movie.
[11:43] <jhutchins> I use lynx frequently.
[11:43] <Arwen> it reads embedded objects and just bans them
[11:43] <Arwen> jhutchins, not w3m?
[11:43] <jhutchins> Nope.
[11:43] <Comrade-Sergei> all my KDE apps seem to be very crash prone latly, sometimes they complain they cant find klauncher, what may be the problem?
[11:43] <Arwen> rixon, it doesn't... maybe I ought to revise the article
[11:44] <coreymon77> jhutchins: i dont do any bandwidth intensive stuff anyways besudes the odd torrent every now and then
[11:44] <Arwen> either way, it's "apt-get install mplayer" to fix your problems
[11:44] <Dusk_> there's a cross on the kmix icon next to the clock and no sound on kubuntu
[11:44] <jhutchins> Dusk_: slash or red dot with a white x?
[11:45] <jhutchins> Comrade-Sergei: We'd probably have to know what release you were running, and what version of KDE, and maybe what the last thing you did a big upgrade on was, as well as what it's actually doing as opposed to not doing.
[11:46] <rixon> Arwen: I know mplayer, usually use it, now I want kaffeine though.
[11:46] <Arwen> rixon, libxine1-ffmpeg then
[11:46] <jhutchins> rixon: Fine, but don't complain that it doesn't work.
[11:46] <Dusk_> jhutchins: red dos with a white x
[11:46] <semistud2354> im trying to get my rio nitrus working....i downloaded the "rioutil" package of of adept...but i have no clue what to do from there...can anyone help????
[11:46] <Dusk_> dot*
[11:47] <jhutchins> Dusk_: Your sound system is not working; probably you do not have the correct module for your sound chipset.
[11:47] <jhutchins> Dusk_: Several chipsets are too new to be available in the kernel.
[11:47] <jhutchins> Dusk_: sudo lspci should show you what chipset.
[11:47] <Comrade-Sergei> jhutchins, thats just it i run gnome, its just my KDE apps that do it
[11:47] <jhutchins> !audio | dusk
[11:47] <ubotu> dusk: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:47] <rixon> jhutchins: hehe :)
[11:48] <Comrade-Sergei> 3.5.6 i believe jhutchins.
[11:48] <jhutchins> Comrade-Sergei: kde apps crash in gnome?
[11:48] <Dusk_> jhutchins: there are 2 multimedia audio controllers there...is that a problem??
[11:48] <jhutchins> Dusk_: Yes.
[11:48] <yourfriend> gnome crashes in gnome
[11:48] <Dusk_> jhutchins: one of them is ac97
[11:48] <Comrade-Sergei> jhutchins, or run very slowly
[11:48] <yourfriend> lol
[11:48] <Dusk_> jhutchins: the other is Ensoniq
[11:49] <Comrade-Sergei> jhutchins, amaroks running decently now but it wasnt before...
[11:49] <jhutchins> Comrade-Sergei: I know lots of people have had trouble with kde if they installed it on top of gnome.
[11:49] <jhutchins> not that that helps...
[11:50] <Comrade-Sergei> jhutchins, well its like that from basic install, i run ubuntu
[11:50] <jhutchins> Comrade-Sergei: understood.
[11:50] <Comrade-Sergei> just the native kde apps like kopete and amaroK
[11:50] <jhutchins> Comrade-Sergei: Do they work correctly in kde?
[11:50] <Comrade-Sergei> how should i know
[11:50] <Comrade-Sergei> i run ubuntu
[11:51] <Dusk_> jhutchins: what should i do?
[11:51] <Comrade-Sergei> i guess they would if i had it
[11:51] <coreymon77> meh
[11:51] <jhutchins> Comrade-Sergei: Obviously, this is a question for #ubuntu, not #kubuntu, since what you're doing has nothing to do with #kubuntu.
[11:51] <coreymon77> what i would do is install kde first, and then if i wanted gnome install that on top
[11:51] <coreymon77> havent heard of any problems doing that
[11:51] <Comrade-Sergei> they refer me here and #kde
[11:51] <jhutchins> Dusk_: Easiest is disable one of them in the BIOS.
[11:51] <jhutchins> Dusk_: Other than that, read through those web pages and start troubleshooting.
[11:51] <Dusk_> i must have been disabled it
[11:52] <Comrade-Sergei> and #KDE is pretty inactive
[11:52] <Dusk_> but let me have a look again
[11:52] <Dusk_> thanks
[11:52] <semistud2354> im trying to get my rio nitrus working....i downloaded the "rioutil" package of of adept...but i have no clue what to do from there...can anyone help????
[11:53] <jhutchins> Comrade-Sergei: If you'd care to install kubuntu-desktop and try running them there, we might be able to help.  It's kindof like complaining that your Mac programs won't run on your PC though.
[11:53] <jhutchins> Comrade-Sergei: There's a lot of compatibility - but it's not the first priority.
[11:53] <jhutchins> Comrade-Sergei: Generally, kde apps are stable on systems installed as kubuntu.
[11:53] <semistud2354> any ideas??
[11:54] <coreymon77> Comrade-Sergei: install kubuntu fresh, so that it is installed as a kubuntu system, then, if you want gnome, install that on top
[11:55] <jhutchins> semistud2354:  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karate_Kommandos
[11:55] <jhutchins> semistud2354: Sorry, bad pastebuffer, hang on...
[11:55] <dranas> why install kubuntu if youre going to use gnome?
[11:55] <jhutchins> semistud2354: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199278
[11:56] <jhutchins> dranas: Because the packages you actually want to use are KDE packages?
[11:56] <super_> hello
[11:56] <dranas> then why install gnome?
[11:56] <super_> how i can install plugin
[11:57] <CaBlGuY> !xine
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <dranas> does anyone here know anything about gxmame?
[11:58] <super_> !help
[11:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:58] <super_> !aide
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <CaBlGuY> whats the latest version of Xine?
[11:58] <dranas> all knowing
[12:00] <TeraDyne> super_: what exactly do you need help with?
[12:00] <Min464> WOW! Free phone calls -  http://callfree.point-serv.com/en/
[12:00] <super_> now it is ok, can you help me how to set webmin auto start
[12:01] <dranas> i  got a question
[12:01] <TeraDyne> You might have to ask in their chatroom. IIRC, Webmin isn't supported by the *buntus.
[12:01] <dranas> what container does xmame use for roms? like mame 32 uses zip
[12:02] <semistud2354> that link you gave me hand one guy askin about the problem
[12:02] <semistud2354> i just want amarok to see it
[12:02] <semistud2354> or i dunno...mount my rio nitrus
[12:02] <crusty> newbie trying to install a new splash screen but cant get acces...
[12:02] <crusty> any ideas ?
[12:02] <semistud2354> i know where it is i just dont know the commands to mont it
[12:03] <BrightEyes`> hello.just installed kubuntu 7.04 and i want to configure me pci tv card.how can i do that?
[12:03] <coreymon77> semistud2354: well, where is it?
[12:04] <purpleposeidon> how can you tell which version of ubuntu you're using?
[12:04] <semistud2354> its "/dev/usb/003/003"
[12:05] <crusty> in the control center it says "click on the administrator mode button to make changes" but there is no such button there
[12:05] <semistud2354> amarok has a thing where it says you have to put the device node, and then the mount point...
[12:05] <semistud2354> which i am totally confused
[12:08] <Arwen> semistud2354, are you sure it's /dev/usb/blah? it probably also has an entry like /dev/sdb,c,d,etc
[12:08] <semistud2354> thats what i get when i type lsusb
[12:09] <semistud2354> but ill check there 2
[12:09] <semistud2354> one sec
[12:09] <Arwen> hmm
[12:09] <Dusk_> jhutchins: still no sound
[12:09] <Dusk_> it can't find my sound card
[12:09] <Arwen> (sda is probably your hard drive)
[12:09] <semistud2354> i dont have sdb
[12:09] <semistud2354> i have dev
[12:09] <semistud2354> but no sdb
[12:09] <Arwen> ok, dunno then
[12:10] <semistud2354> folder
[12:10] <semistud2354> Bus 003 Device 003: ID 045a:5220 SONICblue, Inc. Rio Nitrus MP3 Player
[12:10] <semistud2354> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[12:10] <semistud2354> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[12:10] <semistud2354> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:c00e Logitech, Inc. M-BJ69 Optical Wheel Mouse
[12:10] <semistud2354> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[12:10] <semistud2354> thats what my lsusb says
[12:10] <TeraDyne> !pastebin | semistud2354
[12:10] <ubotu> semistud2354: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:10] <semistud2354> huh
[12:12] <bernardf> name "Bernard"
[12:12] <TeraDyne> For large amounts of texts, like the output of lsusb, it's better to put it there and put the link to the pastebin page than to post it directly to the chatroom.
[12:12] <bernardf> hi!
[12:12] <semistud2354> o
[12:12] <semistud2354> i put it directly from my console output
[12:13] <semistud2354> thingie
[12:13] <semistud2354> do you guys see the stuff i pasted
[12:13] <semistud2354> ??
[12:13] <TeraDyne> Yes.
[12:13] <Comrade-Sergei> jhutchins, i wonder if i could reinstall klauncher think thad help?
[12:14] <semistud2354> well yea..i got the impression from online that i need rioutil
[12:14] <BrightEyes`> hello.just installed kubuntu 7.04 and i want to configure me pci tv card.how can i do that?
[12:14] <semistud2354> and how do i get rio util to work