[01:09] <h3sp4wn> pwnguin: Not sure about apt-get but there is some .tex files that explain the algorithm of aptitude
[01:18] <DanaG> Hmm, nice way to crash glchess:
[01:18] <DanaG> Start AI-vs-AI.  Watch game freeze when you press "Start".
[01:23] <DanaG> Correction: open "AI Information" first.
[01:28] <sayers> How do I configure Cdrecord to run with root privlages?
[01:51] <crimsun> DanaG: pavucontrol + paman src reuploaded; should be available tomorrow or the day after
[02:01] <DanaG> I think they're actually working already.
[02:01] <DanaG> There were some glademm and glibmm updates some time yesterday or today.
[02:02] <DanaG> That reminds me ... I should test audio capture with the new kernel.
[02:02] <crimsun> they're not working.
[02:02] <crimsun> they're broken, else I wouldn't have rebuilt locally to confirm a fix and then uploaded the source. :)
[02:03] <DanaG> Hmm, they got fixed some time, then re-broke, apparently,
[02:03] <DanaG> .
[02:03] <crimsun> yes
[02:03] <crimsun> libglademm2.4 stack breakage
[02:03] <crimsun> now that the stack breakage is fixed (glibmm -> gtkmm -> glademm), we can punt the source
[02:04] <DanaG> Odd, capture is still not working.
[02:05] <DanaG> arecord -fcd -Dhw:0,0
[02:05] <DanaG> Recording WAVE 'stdin' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
[02:05] <DanaG> RIFF$WAVEfmt Ddataarecord: pcm_read:1346: read error: Input/output error
[02:05] <crimsun> are you positive it's not a hardware error?
[02:05] <DanaG> It works under XP and Vista,
[02:06] <DanaG> and in some old kernel version I could cat /dev/dsp to /dev/dsp and get (noisy) output that matched input.
[02:06] <DanaG> But ALSA recording has never worked on that card, for me.
[02:07] <crimsun> interesting.  I presume -Dplughw:0,0 gives identical results/
[02:07] <DanaG> Yes.
[02:08] <crimsun> has the subdevice shifted per definition?
[02:08] <DanaG> It actually hangs on the last invalid-character thing for a few seconds.
[02:08] <crimsun> plughw:0,1?
[02:08] <DanaG> should I run the alsa-info.sh script?
[02:08] <crimsun> `cat /proc/asound/devices` will suffice
[02:08] <DanaG> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel] , device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog] 
[02:09] <DanaG> has 2 subdevices.
[02:09] <DanaG> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel] , device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem] 
[02:09] <DanaG> has 1 subdevice.
[02:09] <Jordan_U> Anybody know if the spec for having a separate /home partition by default is likely to be implemented in Gutsy ?
[02:09] <DanaG> that's arecord -l (lowercase L)
[02:12] <DanaG> I remember my BIOS changelog had a couple of entries about "Change audio verb table for Vista DTM test."
[02:22] <crimsun> DanaG: those options are very important.
[02:22] <crimsun> as in vitally important.
[02:22] <crimsun> they essentially rearrange the NIDs
[02:34] <Jordan_U> How likely is it that Gutsy will install with a separate /home partition by default?
[02:35] <Stormx2> I doubt it, Jordan_U
[02:36] <RAOF> Jordan_U: For non-technical users, there are goood reasons not to do that, I think.
[02:37] <Jordan_U> RAOF, Like what?
[02:38] <RAOF> Well, like "how do you pick a sane / partition size"?  Remember, / will contain /tmp, and a number of programs will, by default, write huge files to /tmp
[02:38] <Jordan_U> I think it is better for non technical users because if they screw something up and don't know how to fix it they will often just re-install, this will give them the option of saving their data and preferences
[02:38] <Jordan_U> True
[02:38] <crimsun> You also need to recognise that user preferences represent a non-trivial portion of bugs in updated applications.
[02:39] <crimsun> A rather non-trivial portion of bugs can be resolved by simply nuking the preference directories.
[02:39] <pwnguin> how about LVM by default?
[02:39] <RAOF> That would be cool, and would allow separate /home by default.
[02:39] <RAOF> For an example of preference bugs, check out bug #121836
[02:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121836 in deluge-torrent "deluge crashed with ImportError in find_class()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121836
[02:40] <RAOF> What would be needed for LVM by default?  I've considered creating a spec for that.
[02:41] <Jordan_U> I don't think ubiquity currently supports LVM
[02:41] <RAOF> Oh, yeah.  Of course.
[02:42] <DanaG> Oh, I was out watering the plants. I forgot to set /away.
[02:42] <DanaG> I'm back now.
[02:43] <DanaG> The BIOS changelog didn't specifically explain HOW they changed them.
[02:45] <DanaG> Hmm, new Vista driver INI has this:
[02:45] <DanaG> Initverbs = hex: 0xff,0xf8,0x17,0x00,0x7f,0xf8,0x17,0x00,0x40,0xf8,0x17,0x00,0x7f,0xf8,0x17,0x00,0x40,0xf8,0x17,0x00,0x7f,0xf8,0x17,0x00,0x40,0xf8,0x17,0x00,0x00,0xf8,0x17,0x00,0x02,0xf9,0x17,0x00,0x00,0xf9,0x17,0x00
[02:45] <DanaG> TraceFlags = dword: 0x89B3
[02:45] <DanaG> I'll dig up the old XP one.
[02:47] <h3sp4wn> anywhere with emacs22 deb's for gutsy ?
[02:50] <DanaG> www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette
[02:50] <DanaG> there's gateway_pa6_stac9250_{xp,vista}.ini
[02:50] <DanaG> (2 separate files)
[02:51] <gnomefreak> h3sp4wn: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:52] <gnomefreak> nvm not merged yet
[02:52] <DanaG> Hmm, if you diff the two inf files, and disregard everything but pin-configs, there ARE some changes.
[02:53] <gnomefreak> DanaG: for windows topics join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:54] <DanaG> It's not a windows topic -- it's actually a "fix my HD Audio device" topic, using the windows driver INI files for reference.
[02:54] <gnomefreak> DanaG: than do it without the play by play
[02:56] <h3sp4wn> gnomefreak: Is the merge window not closed ?
[02:57] <gnomefreak> h3sp4wn: no far from it
[02:57] <gnomefreak> well far from it in 6 months release terms
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> gnomefreak: Is that not an upstream merge then ?
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> Remaining upstream merges completed (21 June)
[02:59] <gnomefreak> debian merge if its in debian
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> Its not
[02:59] <gnomefreak> than gutsy wont get it
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> ?
[03:00] <gnomefreak> well cant say that, it would take a soild request (unless its in NEW and maybe thats where i saw it)
[03:00] <gnomefreak> let me check NEW
[03:03] <crimsun> h3sp4wn: it would go into universe regardless.  Have you recompiled the Debian experimental source package?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> it is in debian than
[03:06] <h3sp4wn> crimsun: Its quite old, (prior to it actually been released)
[03:08] <h3sp4wn> http://emacs.orebokech.com - That the only repository I have seen with upto date ones in
[03:08] <h3sp4wn> He is a debian developer though
[03:09] <h3sp4wn> And presumably whoever does add it has the responsibilty of making sure all the extra stuff works on it
[03:44] <DanaG> Oh, lovely 
[03:44] <DanaG> .
[05:00] <Zelut> if I have Tribe 1 is there an efficient upgrade to Tribe 2 or do I just need the whole new .iso?
[05:01] <RAOF> Zelut: Just keep updating.
[05:01] <Zelut> RAOF: well I don't have it installed, just the .iso.
[05:02] <RAOF> Oh, well then you could rsync the new iso, that'd be quicker.
[05:02] <Zelut> I couldn't find an rsync mirror to the dailys or at cdimage.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <Zelut> I tried jigdo but that didn't seem to cut it
[05:10] <Netham46> is there a beta of Gutsy available?
[05:11] <Zelut> Netham46: just the first alpha, still very new.
[05:11] <Netham46> ok
[05:11] <Netham46> is it stable enough to run for fun?
[05:12] <Netham46> like, as a desktop
[05:12] <Zelut> on a spare machine..
[05:12] <Zelut> I wouldn't do it on your primary desktop
[05:12] <Netham46> my 'spare' machine is a P3 256mb RAM
[05:12] <Netham46> it doesn't boot dapper.
[05:12] <Netham46> Ok
[05:12] <Netham46> my desktop's been running Feisty since the alpha. :D
[05:13] <Netham46> before that, I was on Edgy
[05:13] <Netham46> before that, I was on Redhat Fedora something
[05:17] <Zelut> hmm.. jigdo tells me 0 of all files found.  has *everything* changed between tribe 1 and todays daily?
[05:18] <Netham46> does anyone know a way I could get Ubuntu installed on this PC?
[05:18] <Netham46> It's got too little memory, 256 MB
[05:19] <Zelut> Netham46: try Xubuntu
[05:19] <Netham46> it has the same X server, right?
[05:20] <Netham46> actually, Edgy just dies, it can't even get to a terminal there is so little memory.
[05:20] <Zelut> most likely the same X server, but different desktop environment--you're not going to get gnome if that is what you mean.
[05:20] <Netham46> I know, XFCE.
[05:20] <Netham46> I know about the WM's
[05:21] <Netham46> hey! Gutsy's final release date is on my birthday. :D
[05:24] <Dannilion> when be your birthday?
[05:24] <Netham46> Oct. 18'th
[05:25] <Dannilion> Nice. 4 months after my birthday.
[05:25] <Netham46> lol
[05:50] <DanaG> How do you move a stream by commandline with pulseaudio?
[05:51] <DanaG> yay, got it.
[05:52] <DanaG> list-sink-inputs and move-sink-input.
[05:52] <DanaG> Cool, now my music is back on my external device.
[05:53] <DanaG> argh, exit in pactl ends pulseaudio.
[05:55] <DanaG> Aah, looks like I needed ctrl-d.
[05:56] <Netham46> ctrl + d?
[05:57] <DanaG> Sends EOF.  Apparently, pactl connects to the running daemon, so exit exits the daemon.  Instead, give it EOF and it'll let go of the terminal.
[05:57] <Netham46> ah
[05:57] <Netham46> ok
[06:34] <cps1966> is there no mozilla ??
[06:34] <cps1966> or seamonkey
[06:36] <RAOF> !find mozilla
[06:36] <ubotu> Found: liferea, mozilla-firefox-locale-af, mozilla-firefox-locale-ar, mozilla-firefox-locale-bg-bg, mozilla-firefox-locale-bn-bd (and 76 others)
[06:37] <cps1966> guess i use konqueror then
[06:37] <RAOF> There is firefox, of course.
[06:38] <cps1966> i dont care for firefox
[06:38] <DanaG> !seamonkey
[06:38] <ubotu> Seamonkey, formerly known as "Mozilla Application Suite", is available at http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ with install instructions for ubuntu at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186011
[07:01] <DanaG> Odd: the new Appearance panel doesn't apply antialiasing settings on the fly.
[07:10] <RAOF> Netham46: What about it?  It sucks?  It's an old 2d card masquerading as a 3d card?
[07:13] <phin> why not just get a new card?
[07:26] <DanaG> The oldest desktop video card I have around here: Voodo3.  Oh wait, I have some old ISA VGA (yes, VGA) card around here somewhere, too.
[07:26] <DanaG> The oldest laptop video card: NeoMagic.
[07:27] <DanaG> With a whopping 2.5 megabytes of video RAM -- and a 16-bit-color LCD to go with it -- not enough video ram for 1024x768x24.
[11:55] <shiris1> sorry, the desktop freezed
[11:58] <shiris1> OT guys how do I get my name back, its registered & not being used
[12:19] <Tm_T> ):
[12:19] <Tm_T> that's evil
[12:19] <Tm_T> now we don't know how it ends
[12:22] <Pumpernickel> I dunno, that looks like a good ending to me.
[12:25] <Tm_T> no it doesn
[12:25] <Tm_T> 't
[01:43] <Dannilion> Bleh!
[01:48] <jussi01> lol
[01:49] <Dannilion> Well, it's either that or go mess with the spam controls on the server, which I don't want to do again
[01:52] <jussi01> hehe...not nice...
[02:55] <Hobbsee> TRIBE 2 RELEASED!!!
[03:05] <gnomefreak> yay we unfreeze shortly :)
[03:06] <jussi01> yay
[03:07] <Hobbsee> :D
[03:08] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: already unfrozen
[03:08] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: i just got an accepted mail for mesa
[03:08] <Hobbsee> might take a while to build it, etc, though
[03:08] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: ah ok cool
[03:21] <Dannilion> Does this mean I have another big download to hammer my mobile phone with? :p
[03:31] <Hobbsee> Dannilion: probably
[03:31] <Dannilion> okay
[03:34] <Hobbsee> i can withhold uploading parts of kde if you want :P
[03:35] <Dannilion> no no, it's ok :D
[03:35] <Dannilion> T-Mobile haven't complained yet :p
[03:37] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:58] <Ind[y] > Greetings. If someone is interested to be a packager/maintainer, is there a special procedure they must follow?
[04:02] <dendrobates> ind[y] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[04:02] <Ind[y] > dendrobates: I see. Thank you.
[05:39] <shirish> guys can somebody tell me where I can find the icon of gnome-screenshot I have not been able to find the icon in /usr/share/pixmaps or maybe I should be looking at somewhere else? The icon is there though in the application, but can't seem to find from where it took that icon
[07:18] <askand> will feisty-fusion be default in gutsy?
[07:18] <shirish> askand: it is supposed to be , yes
[07:18] <askand> shirish: what are the news in gutsy?
[07:20] <shirish> askand: as far as I know firefox-granparadiso is gonna be there, compiz-fusion, GRUB 2 (don't think default though) and some other stuff , not much up on it, sorry
[07:20] <shirish> ubotu gutsy
[07:20] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[07:20] <shirish> you can check those links
[07:21] <Pici> Whats fiesty-fusion?
[07:21] <askand> shirish: ok..so basicly almost only updates of softwares..not ubuntu itself?
[07:21] <Pici> askand: Whats the different?
[07:21] <shirish> ubuntu also
[07:21] <Pici> er, difference?
[07:21] <askand>  Pici: hmm..compiz-fusion I meant..its beryl+compiz
[07:22] <Pici> askand: Right.
[07:22] <Pici> askand: I meant, whats the difference between an update of the software and ubuntu itself. Ubuntu is just the sum of its parts.
[07:23] <askand> Pici: hrm..what is the ubuntu team doing then? : o
[07:23] <JanDM_> theyf ix bugs in the software as well...
[07:25] <Hobbsee> and update it and make sure it all works well together and fixes bugs, and writes some of their own stuff, etc
[07:25] <Hobbsee> and produces cds, etc, etc, etc
[07:26] <JanDM_> we don't have to be afraid there is nothing left for them ;)
[07:26] <Hobbsee> uh, no
[07:26] <Hobbsee> there's always stuff left to do
[07:26] <shirish> askand: there is apport-gtk as well as lot of things in bzr etc.
[09:13] <coNP> it's time I upgraded my system
[09:16] <shirish> coNP: you still not on gutsy?
[09:17] <sayers> Gusty works good afaik
[09:18] <shirish> sayers: aye aye (which means touche or I hear you :) )
[09:18] <coNP> without a daily upgrade
[09:18] <coNP> I had a final exam today
[09:18] <coNP> no time to upgrade yet :)
[09:18] <shirish> aha, ok cool
[09:18] <sayers> anyway going to install it
[09:19] <shirish> I'm constantly upgrading, every 3-4 hrs. whenever my regional mirrors shows any updates
[09:19] <yuriy> i'm still on feisty, i ought to get on that
[09:19] <coNP> topic says yuriy is the wisest among us :D
[09:20] <shirish> coNP: say could you try to install unifont & see if you get this bug 122565
[09:20] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122565 in unifont "unifont-bin is not able to find /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc directory" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122565
[09:21] <shirish> coNP: its a small file hardly 600 kb a font file actually.
[09:21] <coNP> shirish: sure I'll try
[09:22] <shirish> coNP: lemme know if it installs at your end without showing that stuff.
[09:28] <roger> With Tribe 2 running Compiz I'm not getting any window previews in the virtual desktop switcher in the bottom right - only the current desktop shows any windows previews. Has anyone else noticed the same thing?
[09:31] <shirish> coNP: were u able to install it?
[09:33] <coNP> I tried
[09:33] <coNP> I don't know how to test if the font is installed or not
[09:33] <coNP> the warning you mentioned is written out
[10:04] <davmor2> Hi guys.  quick query.  I think I have an issue with synaptic but I'm not sure if it is synaptic or compiz causing the issue.  When you select a package and want to "mark recommended packages"  it doesn't.  so my question is it compiz or synaptic or a mixture of the 2
[10:08] <gnomefreak> davmor2: hint disable compiz log out than back in so compiz doesnt start up and try it :)
[10:08] <gnomefreak> if it works its compiz if it doesnt work its something else
[10:09] <davmor2> nice
[10:15] <DanaG> Lame: desktop-effects demands to run restricted-manager; thus, I can't use that panel to enable it.  I'm using NVIDIA installer, not the packaged drivers.
[10:19] <Dannilion> just like me to delete files I shouldn't.
[10:20] <pwnguin> DanaG: is there a difference between nvidia's current driver and ubuntu's
[10:20] <pwnguin> ?
[10:21] <DanaG> Oh yeah, the current is some 100.something, I think.
[10:22] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/122348
[10:22] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122348 in Ubuntu "New nVidia drivers 100.14 fix problems with ACPI / Suspend" [Undecided,New] 
[10:22] <pwnguin> oh shit?
[10:23] <pwnguin> hmm
[10:23] <DanaG> Actually, for me, Gutsy broke suspend entirely -- even without X.
[10:23] <DanaG> It used to work perfectly for me in Feisty.
[10:23] <pwnguin> well
[10:23] <pwnguin> nvidia may be loaded
[10:24] <pwnguin> the kernel module
[10:24] <DanaG> But: the new NVIDIA does seem to fix hotkey-display-switching in Xorg -- with one exception: it doesn't automatically change resolution.
[10:24] <pwnguin> any other breakages?
[10:25] <pwnguin> hmm. that bug doesn't appear to have a package attached to it
[10:27] <DanaG> Argh, I dislike the new Appearance panel.
[10:27] <DanaG> Font changes don't apply.
[10:29] <bipolar> yay for nspluginviewer! :D
[10:29] <bipolar> I was just about to go back to ubuntu 32bit :)
[10:31] <pwnguin> it doesnt look that much different than regular vista
[10:31] <DanaG> It's actually an XP theme.
[10:32] <DanaG> It's the only theme I've ever consistently kept applied when in Windows.
[10:32] <DanaG> In Ubuntu, I use human-ubuntulooks, but I still wish there were another nice theme like that one.
[10:32] <pwnguin> looked at art.gnome much/
[10:32] <pwnguin> ?
[10:35] <KjetilK__> I'm wondering about the status of the iwlwifi driver in gutsy
[10:35] <KjetilK__>  If I do a file search for it it seems only the microcode is in
[10:35] <KjetilK__> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=iwlwifi&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=gutsy&arch=i386
[10:35] <Arwen> being now on Tribe 2, does Gusty work to any degree of usability? and yes, I know it's pre-alpha
[10:36] <KjetilK__> in feisty, there are more results
[10:36] <Arwen> oh? missing packages?
[10:36] <pwnguin> missing firmwares
[10:37] <jussi01> Arwen: its ok.. Ive used it a bit...
[10:37] <pwnguin> but
[10:37] <DanaG> The firmware is there; the driver is missing.
[10:37] <bipolar> Arwen: some issues with packages. nothing to serious
[10:37] <KjetilK__> yeah, it looks like the driver is missing
[10:37] <bipolar> Arwen: I just installed it on my new laptop
[10:37] <pwnguin> a lot of what's missing is -server
[10:37] <pwnguin> -server bigiron and -lowlatency
[10:38] <bipolar> Arwen: I had to patch vmware player to build with 2.6.22
[10:38] <Arwen> ah, I only wonder about fglrx, it only officially supports up to 2.6.20
[10:38] <bipolar> the vmware ubuntu packages are broken, so I installed from tgz
[10:38] <pwnguin> the thing is, my wifi chipset is 3945
[10:38] <pwnguin> and it works
[10:39] <bipolar> Arwen: not sure about fglrx. nvidia here, which works fine
[10:39] <Arwen> ye, I don't use fglrx anyway
[10:39] <bipolar> I was sure to get an nvidia card after the hassles the ati card in my 'old' laptop gave me
[10:41] <pwnguin> Arwen: i think perhaps theres been some changes to that driver
[10:41] <Arwen> hmm
[10:41] <pwnguin> Arwen: i remember reading that they dropped the regulatory daemon
[10:41] <Arwen> heh, no more atieventsd? yay
[10:42] <bipolar> it's pretty cool to have wine running on a 64bit os :)
[10:42] <pwnguin> not ati
[10:42] <pwnguin> 3945
[10:42] <Arwen> oh, lol
[10:42] <pwnguin> oh, sorry
[10:42] <pwnguin> wrong person
[10:42] <pwnguin> KjetilK__: i think some changes to that driver's structure have been made
[10:44] <KjetilK__> pwnguin: so, I shouldn't expect to find files named like the driver now?
[10:44] <pwnguin> KjetilK__: is the device working?
[10:44] <KjetilK__> pwnguin: well, I have a severe problem with the wireless kill switch
[10:45] <KjetilK__> so, I can't actually find out...
[10:45] <pwnguin> oh?
[10:45] <pwnguin> i have a minor one
[10:45] <KjetilK__> but since 2.6.22 has some new RFKILL stuff, I figured I'll try to compile it on my otherwise feisty system
[10:46] <KjetilK__> pwnguin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2908414
[10:46] <pwnguin> with the current system, i have to toggle the kill switch to get wireless working
[10:47] <pwnguin> and network manager still sucks
[10:47] <KjetilK__> hmmm
[10:47] <KjetilK__> mine is a hardware kill switch, not supported by acerhk, not exposed to BIOS....
[10:47] <pwnguin> i just flip it off and on again, connections happen. its a physical switch but im not sure how it works internally
[10:48] <KjetilK__> only successes reported are those who first install windows, toggle the switch and then boot to LInux
[10:48] <KjetilK__> hehe, tried that many times, before even beginning to investigate :-)
[10:50] <pwnguin> hmm. i think my kernels' no good
[10:50] <pwnguin> keyboard broke
[10:51] <pwnguin> and bash or something seems to have died
[10:51] <KjetilK__> hmmm, it looks like there is a driver there...: http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi&n=HOWTO-iwlwifi
[10:51] <pwnguin> what's the difference between iwlwifi and ipw4945?
[10:52] <pwnguin> ah. its the one that removes the regulatory daemon
[10:53] <KjetilK__> yup
[10:54] <KjetilK__> since Olen in the forums (who turned out to be an acquitance of mine) got a bit further, I figured it might a good thing to try
[10:57] <pwnguin> fun
[10:58] <pwnguin> dasher isn't that great for terminal access =/
[10:58] <KjetilK__> hehe
[11:03] <pwnguin> ok, something seriously exploded
[11:03] <pwnguin> i'd like to make a copy of kern.log or something
[11:26] <sayers> How do I get this mp3 to work ... grr
[11:27] <sayers> Ah got it. That was a lot harder than usual.
[11:42] <sayers> When I get opted to report a problem I should right?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> sayers: yes
[11:44] <sayers> looks like I need an account. Anyway that bug was self-induced
[11:50] <Pici> Anyone with xgl+fglrx successfully using compiz-fusion?
[11:57] <Pici> Anyone with xgl-fglrx unsuccessfully using compiz-fusion?
[12:00] <gnomefreak> Pici: its stilla  bit broken
[12:01] <Pici> gnomefreak: I know :/
[12:01] <gnomefreak> more than likely everyone is in same state you are
[12:03] <Pici> Well, at least I'm not alone.
[12:29] <omha> hey