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| h3sp4wn | pwnguin: Not sure about apt-get but there is some .tex files that explain the algorithm of aptitude | 01:09 |
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| DanaG | Hmm, nice way to crash glchess: | 01:18 |
| DanaG | Start AI-vs-AI. Watch game freeze when you press "Start". | 01:18 |
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| DanaG | Correction: open "AI Information" first. | 01:23 |
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| sayers | How do I configure Cdrecord to run with root privlages? | 01:28 |
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| crimsun | DanaG: pavucontrol + paman src reuploaded; should be available tomorrow or the day after | 01:51 |
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| DanaG | I think they're actually working already. | 02:01 |
| DanaG | There were some glademm and glibmm updates some time yesterday or today. | 02:01 |
| DanaG | That reminds me ... I should test audio capture with the new kernel. | 02:02 |
| crimsun | they're not working. | 02:02 |
| crimsun | they're broken, else I wouldn't have rebuilt locally to confirm a fix and then uploaded the source. :) | 02:02 |
| DanaG | Hmm, they got fixed some time, then re-broke, apparently, | 02:03 |
| DanaG | . | 02:03 |
| crimsun | yes | 02:03 |
| crimsun | libglademm2.4 stack breakage | 02:03 |
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| crimsun | now that the stack breakage is fixed (glibmm -> gtkmm -> glademm), we can punt the source | 02:03 |
| DanaG | Odd, capture is still not working. | 02:04 |
| DanaG | arecord -fcd -Dhw:0,0 | 02:05 |
| DanaG | Recording WAVE 'stdin' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo | 02:05 |
| DanaG | RIFF$WAVEfmt Ddataarecord: pcm_read:1346: read error: Input/output error | 02:05 |
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| crimsun | are you positive it's not a hardware error? | 02:05 |
| DanaG | It works under XP and Vista, | 02:05 |
| DanaG | and in some old kernel version I could cat /dev/dsp to /dev/dsp and get (noisy) output that matched input. | 02:06 |
| DanaG | But ALSA recording has never worked on that card, for me. | 02:06 |
| crimsun | interesting. I presume -Dplughw:0,0 gives identical results/ | 02:07 |
| DanaG | Yes. | 02:07 |
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| crimsun | has the subdevice shifted per definition? | 02:08 |
| DanaG | It actually hangs on the last invalid-character thing for a few seconds. | 02:08 |
| crimsun | plughw:0,1? | 02:08 |
| DanaG | should I run the alsa-info.sh script? | 02:08 |
| crimsun | `cat /proc/asound/devices` will suffice | 02:08 |
| DanaG | card 0: Intel [HDA Intel] , device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog] | 02:08 |
| DanaG | has 2 subdevices. | 02:09 |
| DanaG | card 0: Intel [HDA Intel] , device 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem] | 02:09 |
| DanaG | has 1 subdevice. | 02:09 |
| Jordan_U | Anybody know if the spec for having a separate /home partition by default is likely to be implemented in Gutsy ? | 02:09 |
| DanaG | that's arecord -l (lowercase L) | 02:09 |
| DanaG | I remember my BIOS changelog had a couple of entries about "Change audio verb table for Vista DTM test." | 02:12 |
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| crimsun | DanaG: those options are very important. | 02:22 |
| crimsun | as in vitally important. | 02:22 |
| crimsun | they essentially rearrange the NIDs | 02:22 |
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| Jordan_U | How likely is it that Gutsy will install with a separate /home partition by default? | 02:34 |
| Stormx2 | I doubt it, Jordan_U | 02:35 |
| RAOF | Jordan_U: For non-technical users, there are goood reasons not to do that, I think. | 02:36 |
| Jordan_U | RAOF, Like what? | 02:37 |
| RAOF | Well, like "how do you pick a sane / partition size"? Remember, / will contain /tmp, and a number of programs will, by default, write huge files to /tmp | 02:38 |
| Jordan_U | I think it is better for non technical users because if they screw something up and don't know how to fix it they will often just re-install, this will give them the option of saving their data and preferences | 02:38 |
| Jordan_U | True | 02:38 |
| crimsun | You also need to recognise that user preferences represent a non-trivial portion of bugs in updated applications. | 02:38 |
| crimsun | A rather non-trivial portion of bugs can be resolved by simply nuking the preference directories. | 02:39 |
| pwnguin | how about LVM by default? | 02:39 |
| RAOF | That would be cool, and would allow separate /home by default. | 02:39 |
| RAOF | For an example of preference bugs, check out bug #121836 | 02:39 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 121836 in deluge-torrent "deluge crashed with ImportError in find_class()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121836 | 02:40 |
| RAOF | What would be needed for LVM by default? I've considered creating a spec for that. | 02:40 |
| Jordan_U | I don't think ubiquity currently supports LVM | 02:41 |
| RAOF | Oh, yeah. Of course. | 02:41 |
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| DanaG | Oh, I was out watering the plants. I forgot to set /away. | 02:42 |
| DanaG | I'm back now. | 02:42 |
| DanaG | The BIOS changelog didn't specifically explain HOW they changed them. | 02:43 |
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| DanaG | Hmm, new Vista driver INI has this: | 02:45 |
| DanaG | Initverbs = hex: 0xff,0xf8,0x17,0x00,0x7f,0xf8,0x17,0x00,0x40,0xf8,0x17,0x00,0x7f,0xf8,0x17,0x00,0x40,0xf8,0x17,0x00,0x7f,0xf8,0x17,0x00,0x40,0xf8,0x17,0x00,0x00,0xf8,0x17,0x00,0x02,0xf9,0x17,0x00,0x00,0xf9,0x17,0x00 | 02:45 |
| DanaG | TraceFlags = dword: 0x89B3 | 02:45 |
| DanaG | I'll dig up the old XP one. | 02:45 |
| h3sp4wn | anywhere with emacs22 deb's for gutsy ? | 02:47 |
| DanaG | www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette | 02:50 |
| DanaG | there's gateway_pa6_stac9250_{xp,vista}.ini | 02:50 |
| DanaG | (2 separate files) | 02:50 |
| gnomefreak | h3sp4wn: packages.ubuntu.com | 02:51 |
| gnomefreak | nvm not merged yet | 02:52 |
| DanaG | Hmm, if you diff the two inf files, and disregard everything but pin-configs, there ARE some changes. | 02:52 |
| gnomefreak | DanaG: for windows topics join #ubuntu-offtopic | 02:53 |
| DanaG | It's not a windows topic -- it's actually a "fix my HD Audio device" topic, using the windows driver INI files for reference. | 02:54 |
| gnomefreak | DanaG: than do it without the play by play | 02:54 |
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| h3sp4wn | gnomefreak: Is the merge window not closed ? | 02:56 |
| gnomefreak | h3sp4wn: no far from it | 02:57 |
| gnomefreak | well far from it in 6 months release terms | 02:57 |
| h3sp4wn | gnomefreak: Is that not an upstream merge then ? | 02:59 |
| h3sp4wn | Remaining upstream merges completed (21 June) | 02:59 |
| gnomefreak | debian merge if its in debian | 02:59 |
| h3sp4wn | Its not | 02:59 |
| gnomefreak | than gutsy wont get it | 02:59 |
| h3sp4wn | ? | 02:59 |
| gnomefreak | well cant say that, it would take a soild request (unless its in NEW and maybe thats where i saw it) | 03:00 |
| gnomefreak | let me check NEW | 03:00 |
| crimsun | h3sp4wn: it would go into universe regardless. Have you recompiled the Debian experimental source package? | 03:03 |
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| gnomefreak | it is in debian than | 03:05 |
| h3sp4wn | crimsun: Its quite old, (prior to it actually been released) | 03:06 |
| h3sp4wn | http://emacs.orebokech.com - That the only repository I have seen with upto date ones in | 03:08 |
| h3sp4wn | He is a debian developer though | 03:08 |
| h3sp4wn | And presumably whoever does add it has the responsibilty of making sure all the extra stuff works on it | 03:09 |
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| DanaG | Oh, lovely | 03:44 |
| DanaG | . | 03:44 |
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| Zelut | if I have Tribe 1 is there an efficient upgrade to Tribe 2 or do I just need the whole new .iso? | 05:00 |
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| RAOF | Zelut: Just keep updating. | 05:01 |
| Zelut | RAOF: well I don't have it installed, just the .iso. | 05:01 |
| RAOF | Oh, well then you could rsync the new iso, that'd be quicker. | 05:02 |
| Zelut | I couldn't find an rsync mirror to the dailys or at cdimage.ubuntu.com | 05:02 |
| Zelut | I tried jigdo but that didn't seem to cut it | 05:05 |
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| Netham46 | is there a beta of Gutsy available? | 05:10 |
| Zelut | Netham46: just the first alpha, still very new. | 05:11 |
| Netham46 | ok | 05:11 |
| Netham46 | is it stable enough to run for fun? | 05:11 |
| Netham46 | like, as a desktop | 05:12 |
| Zelut | on a spare machine.. | 05:12 |
| Zelut | I wouldn't do it on your primary desktop | 05:12 |
| Netham46 | my 'spare' machine is a P3 256mb RAM | 05:12 |
| Netham46 | it doesn't boot dapper. | 05:12 |
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| Netham46 | Ok | 05:12 |
| Netham46 | my desktop's been running Feisty since the alpha. :D | 05:12 |
| Netham46 | before that, I was on Edgy | 05:13 |
| Netham46 | before that, I was on Redhat Fedora something | 05:13 |
| Zelut | hmm.. jigdo tells me 0 of all files found. has *everything* changed between tribe 1 and todays daily? | 05:17 |
| Netham46 | does anyone know a way I could get Ubuntu installed on this PC? | 05:18 |
| Netham46 | It's got too little memory, 256 MB | 05:18 |
| Zelut | Netham46: try Xubuntu | 05:19 |
| Netham46 | it has the same X server, right? | 05:19 |
| Netham46 | actually, Edgy just dies, it can't even get to a terminal there is so little memory. | 05:20 |
| Zelut | most likely the same X server, but different desktop environment--you're not going to get gnome if that is what you mean. | 05:20 |
| Netham46 | I know, XFCE. | 05:20 |
| Netham46 | I know about the WM's | 05:20 |
| Netham46 | hey! Gutsy's final release date is on my birthday. :D | 05:21 |
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| Dannilion | when be your birthday? | 05:24 |
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| Netham46 | Oct. 18'th | 05:24 |
| Dannilion | Nice. 4 months after my birthday. | 05:25 |
| Netham46 | lol | 05:25 |
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| DanaG | How do you move a stream by commandline with pulseaudio? | 05:50 |
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| DanaG | yay, got it. | 05:51 |
| DanaG | list-sink-inputs and move-sink-input. | 05:52 |
| DanaG | Cool, now my music is back on my external device. | 05:52 |
| DanaG | argh, exit in pactl ends pulseaudio. | 05:53 |
| DanaG | Aah, looks like I needed ctrl-d. | 05:55 |
| Netham46 | ctrl + d? | 05:56 |
| DanaG | Sends EOF. Apparently, pactl connects to the running daemon, so exit exits the daemon. Instead, give it EOF and it'll let go of the terminal. | 05:57 |
| Netham46 | ah | 05:57 |
| Netham46 | ok | 05:57 |
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| cps1966 | is there no mozilla ?? | 06:34 |
| cps1966 | or seamonkey | 06:34 |
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| RAOF | !find mozilla | 06:36 |
| ubotu | Found: liferea, mozilla-firefox-locale-af, mozilla-firefox-locale-ar, mozilla-firefox-locale-bg-bg, mozilla-firefox-locale-bn-bd (and 76 others) | 06:36 |
| cps1966 | guess i use konqueror then | 06:37 |
| RAOF | There is firefox, of course. | 06:37 |
| cps1966 | i dont care for firefox | 06:38 |
| DanaG | !seamonkey | 06:38 |
| ubotu | Seamonkey, formerly known as "Mozilla Application Suite", is available at http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ with install instructions for ubuntu at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186011 | 06:38 |
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| DanaG | Odd: the new Appearance panel doesn't apply antialiasing settings on the fly. | 07:01 |
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| RAOF | Netham46: What about it? It sucks? It's an old 2d card masquerading as a 3d card? | 07:10 |
| phin | why not just get a new card? | 07:13 |
| DanaG | The oldest desktop video card I have around here: Voodo3. Oh wait, I have some old ISA VGA (yes, VGA) card around here somewhere, too. | 07:26 |
| DanaG | The oldest laptop video card: NeoMagic. | 07:26 |
| DanaG | With a whopping 2.5 megabytes of video RAM -- and a 16-bit-color LCD to go with it -- not enough video ram for 1024x768x24. | 07:27 |
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| shiris1 | OT guys how do I get my name back, its registered & not being used | 11:58 |
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| Tm_T | ): | 12:19 |
| Tm_T | that's evil | 12:19 |
| Tm_T | now we don't know how it ends | 12:19 |
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| Pumpernickel | I dunno, that looks like a good ending to me. | 12:22 |
| Tm_T | no it doesn | 12:25 |
| Tm_T | 't | 12:25 |
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| Dannilion | Bleh! | 01:43 |
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| jussi01 | lol | 01:48 |
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| Dannilion | Well, it's either that or go mess with the spam controls on the server, which I don't want to do again | 01:49 |
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| jussi01 | hehe...not nice... | 01:52 |
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| Hobbsee | TRIBE 2 RELEASED!!! | 02:55 |
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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu+1:Hobbsee] : The In Development Version Channel | Please ***don't*** run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependancies, bug fixing and the like. Things break, this is normal | Ubuntu 7.10 will be nicknamed the "Gutsy Gibbon" | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule | Do not use development versions of Ubuntu on production systems | For support for Dapper, Edgy, Feisty please join #ubuntu. | Go Ape! | Tribe 2 released | ||
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| gnomefreak | yay we unfreeze shortly :) | 03:05 |
| jussi01 | yay | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | :D | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: already unfrozen | 03:08 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: i just got an accepted mail for mesa | 03:08 |
| Hobbsee | might take a while to build it, etc, though | 03:08 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: ah ok cool | 03:08 |
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| Dannilion | Does this mean I have another big download to hammer my mobile phone with? :p | 03:21 |
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| Hobbsee | Dannilion: probably | 03:31 |
| Dannilion | okay | 03:31 |
| Hobbsee | i can withhold uploading parts of kde if you want :P | 03:34 |
| Dannilion | no no, it's ok :D | 03:35 |
| Dannilion | T-Mobile haven't complained yet :p | 03:35 |
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| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:37 |
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| Ind[y] | Greetings. If someone is interested to be a packager/maintainer, is there a special procedure they must follow? | 03:58 |
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| dendrobates | ind[y] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | 04:02 |
| Ind[y] | dendrobates: I see. Thank you. | 04:02 |
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| shirish | guys can somebody tell me where I can find the icon of gnome-screenshot I have not been able to find the icon in /usr/share/pixmaps or maybe I should be looking at somewhere else? The icon is there though in the application, but can't seem to find from where it took that icon | 05:39 |
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| askand | will feisty-fusion be default in gutsy? | 07:18 |
| shirish | askand: it is supposed to be , yes | 07:18 |
| askand | shirish: what are the news in gutsy? | 07:18 |
| shirish | askand: as far as I know firefox-granparadiso is gonna be there, compiz-fusion, GRUB 2 (don't think default though) and some other stuff , not much up on it, sorry | 07:20 |
| shirish | ubotu gutsy | 07:20 |
| ubotu | Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1 | 07:20 |
| shirish | you can check those links | 07:20 |
| Pici | Whats fiesty-fusion? | 07:21 |
| askand | shirish: ok..so basicly almost only updates of softwares..not ubuntu itself? | 07:21 |
| Pici | askand: Whats the different? | 07:21 |
| shirish | ubuntu also | 07:21 |
| Pici | er, difference? | 07:21 |
| askand | Pici: hmm..compiz-fusion I meant..its beryl+compiz | 07:21 |
| Pici | askand: Right. | 07:22 |
| Pici | askand: I meant, whats the difference between an update of the software and ubuntu itself. Ubuntu is just the sum of its parts. | 07:22 |
| askand | Pici: hrm..what is the ubuntu team doing then? : o | 07:23 |
| JanDM_ | theyf ix bugs in the software as well... | 07:23 |
| Hobbsee | and update it and make sure it all works well together and fixes bugs, and writes some of their own stuff, etc | 07:25 |
| Hobbsee | and produces cds, etc, etc, etc | 07:25 |
| JanDM_ | we don't have to be afraid there is nothing left for them ;) | 07:26 |
| Hobbsee | uh, no | 07:26 |
| Hobbsee | there's always stuff left to do | 07:26 |
| shirish | askand: there is apport-gtk as well as lot of things in bzr etc. | 07:26 |
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| coNP | it's time I upgraded my system | 09:13 |
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| shirish | coNP: you still not on gutsy? | 09:16 |
| sayers | Gusty works good afaik | 09:17 |
| shirish | sayers: aye aye (which means touche or I hear you :) ) | 09:18 |
| coNP | without a daily upgrade | 09:18 |
| coNP | I had a final exam today | 09:18 |
| coNP | no time to upgrade yet :) | 09:18 |
| shirish | aha, ok cool | 09:18 |
| sayers | anyway going to install it | 09:18 |
| shirish | I'm constantly upgrading, every 3-4 hrs. whenever my regional mirrors shows any updates | 09:19 |
| yuriy | i'm still on feisty, i ought to get on that | 09:19 |
| === coNP as well | ||
| coNP | topic says yuriy is the wisest among us :D | 09:19 |
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| shirish | coNP: say could you try to install unifont & see if you get this bug 122565 | 09:20 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122565 in unifont "unifont-bin is not able to find /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122565 | 09:20 |
| shirish | coNP: its a small file hardly 600 kb a font file actually. | 09:21 |
| coNP | shirish: sure I'll try | 09:21 |
| shirish | coNP: lemme know if it installs at your end without showing that stuff. | 09:22 |
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| roger | With Tribe 2 running Compiz I'm not getting any window previews in the virtual desktop switcher in the bottom right - only the current desktop shows any windows previews. Has anyone else noticed the same thing? | 09:28 |
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| shirish | coNP: were u able to install it? | 09:31 |
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| coNP | I tried | 09:33 |
| coNP | I don't know how to test if the font is installed or not | 09:33 |
| coNP | the warning you mentioned is written out | 09:33 |
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| davmor2 | Hi guys. quick query. I think I have an issue with synaptic but I'm not sure if it is synaptic or compiz causing the issue. When you select a package and want to "mark recommended packages" it doesn't. so my question is it compiz or synaptic or a mixture of the 2 | 10:04 |
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| gnomefreak | davmor2: hint disable compiz log out than back in so compiz doesnt start up and try it :) | 10:08 |
| gnomefreak | if it works its compiz if it doesnt work its something else | 10:08 |
| davmor2 | nice | 10:09 |
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| DanaG | Lame: desktop-effects demands to run restricted-manager; thus, I can't use that panel to enable it. I'm using NVIDIA installer, not the packaged drivers. | 10:15 |
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| Dannilion | just like me to delete files I shouldn't. | 10:19 |
| === Dannilion downloads the tribe 2 cd as her system won't work if she reboots :p | ||
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| pwnguin | DanaG: is there a difference between nvidia's current driver and ubuntu's | 10:20 |
| pwnguin | ? | 10:20 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, the current is some 100.something, I think. | 10:21 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/122348 | 10:22 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 122348 in Ubuntu "New nVidia drivers 100.14 fix problems with ACPI / Suspend" [Undecided,New] | 10:22 |
| pwnguin | oh shit? | 10:22 |
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| pwnguin | hmm | 10:23 |
| DanaG | Actually, for me, Gutsy broke suspend entirely -- even without X. | 10:23 |
| DanaG | It used to work perfectly for me in Feisty. | 10:23 |
| pwnguin | well | 10:23 |
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| pwnguin | nvidia may be loaded | 10:23 |
| pwnguin | the kernel module | 10:24 |
| DanaG | But: the new NVIDIA does seem to fix hotkey-display-switching in Xorg -- with one exception: it doesn't automatically change resolution. | 10:24 |
| pwnguin | any other breakages? | 10:24 |
| pwnguin | hmm. that bug doesn't appear to have a package attached to it | 10:25 |
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| DanaG | Argh, I dislike the new Appearance panel. | 10:27 |
| DanaG | Font changes don't apply. | 10:27 |
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| bipolar | yay for nspluginviewer! :D | 10:29 |
| bipolar | I was just about to go back to ubuntu 32bit :) | 10:29 |
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| === DanaG wishes there were nice dark themes like this: http://www.wincustomize.com/skins.aspx?skinid=5758&libid=1 | ||
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| pwnguin | it doesnt look that much different than regular vista | 10:31 |
| DanaG | It's actually an XP theme. | 10:31 |
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| DanaG | It's the only theme I've ever consistently kept applied when in Windows. | 10:32 |
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| DanaG | In Ubuntu, I use human-ubuntulooks, but I still wish there were another nice theme like that one. | 10:32 |
| pwnguin | looked at art.gnome much/ | 10:32 |
| pwnguin | ? | 10:32 |
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| KjetilK__ | I'm wondering about the status of the iwlwifi driver in gutsy | 10:35 |
| KjetilK__ | If I do a file search for it it seems only the microcode is in | 10:35 |
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| KjetilK__ | http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=iwlwifi&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=gutsy&arch=i386 | 10:35 |
| Arwen | being now on Tribe 2, does Gusty work to any degree of usability? and yes, I know it's pre-alpha | 10:35 |
| KjetilK__ | in feisty, there are more results | 10:36 |
| Arwen | oh? missing packages? | 10:36 |
| pwnguin | missing firmwares | 10:36 |
| jussi01 | Arwen: its ok.. Ive used it a bit... | 10:37 |
| pwnguin | but | 10:37 |
| DanaG | The firmware is there; the driver is missing. | 10:37 |
| bipolar | Arwen: some issues with packages. nothing to serious | 10:37 |
| KjetilK__ | yeah, it looks like the driver is missing | 10:37 |
| bipolar | Arwen: I just installed it on my new laptop | 10:37 |
| pwnguin | a lot of what's missing is -server | 10:37 |
| pwnguin | -server bigiron and -lowlatency | 10:37 |
| bipolar | Arwen: I had to patch vmware player to build with 2.6.22 | 10:38 |
| Arwen | ah, I only wonder about fglrx, it only officially supports up to 2.6.20 | 10:38 |
| bipolar | the vmware ubuntu packages are broken, so I installed from tgz | 10:38 |
| pwnguin | the thing is, my wifi chipset is 3945 | 10:38 |
| pwnguin | and it works | 10:38 |
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| bipolar | Arwen: not sure about fglrx. nvidia here, which works fine | 10:39 |
| Arwen | ye, I don't use fglrx anyway | 10:39 |
| bipolar | I was sure to get an nvidia card after the hassles the ati card in my 'old' laptop gave me | 10:39 |
| === Arwen wants a laptop with upgradable parts :-\ | ||
| === DanaG is glad to have ipw3945 and e1000, not broadcom and realtek-something-or-other. | ||
| pwnguin | Arwen: i think perhaps theres been some changes to that driver | 10:41 |
| Arwen | hmm | 10:41 |
| pwnguin | Arwen: i remember reading that they dropped the regulatory daemon | 10:41 |
| Arwen | heh, no more atieventsd? yay | 10:41 |
| bipolar | it's pretty cool to have wine running on a 64bit os :) | 10:42 |
| pwnguin | not ati | 10:42 |
| pwnguin | 3945 | 10:42 |
| Arwen | oh, lol | 10:42 |
| pwnguin | oh, sorry | 10:42 |
| pwnguin | wrong person | 10:42 |
| pwnguin | KjetilK__: i think some changes to that driver's structure have been made | 10:42 |
| KjetilK__ | pwnguin: so, I shouldn't expect to find files named like the driver now? | 10:44 |
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| pwnguin | KjetilK__: is the device working? | 10:44 |
| KjetilK__ | pwnguin: well, I have a severe problem with the wireless kill switch | 10:44 |
| KjetilK__ | so, I can't actually find out... | 10:45 |
| pwnguin | oh? | 10:45 |
| pwnguin | i have a minor one | 10:45 |
| KjetilK__ | but since 2.6.22 has some new RFKILL stuff, I figured I'll try to compile it on my otherwise feisty system | 10:45 |
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| KjetilK__ | pwnguin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2908414 | 10:46 |
| pwnguin | with the current system, i have to toggle the kill switch to get wireless working | 10:46 |
| pwnguin | and network manager still sucks | 10:47 |
| KjetilK__ | hmmm | 10:47 |
| KjetilK__ | mine is a hardware kill switch, not supported by acerhk, not exposed to BIOS.... | 10:47 |
| pwnguin | i just flip it off and on again, connections happen. its a physical switch but im not sure how it works internally | 10:47 |
| KjetilK__ | only successes reported are those who first install windows, toggle the switch and then boot to LInux | 10:48 |
| KjetilK__ | hehe, tried that many times, before even beginning to investigate :-) | 10:48 |
| pwnguin | hmm. i think my kernels' no good | 10:50 |
| pwnguin | keyboard broke | 10:50 |
| pwnguin | and bash or something seems to have died | 10:51 |
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| KjetilK__ | hmmm, it looks like there is a driver there...: http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi&n=HOWTO-iwlwifi | 10:51 |
| pwnguin | what's the difference between iwlwifi and ipw4945? | 10:51 |
| pwnguin | ah. its the one that removes the regulatory daemon | 10:52 |
| KjetilK__ | yup | 10:53 |
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| KjetilK__ | since Olen in the forums (who turned out to be an acquitance of mine) got a bit further, I figured it might a good thing to try | 10:54 |
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| pwnguin | fun | 10:57 |
| pwnguin | dasher isn't that great for terminal access =/ | 10:58 |
| KjetilK__ | hehe | 10:58 |
| pwnguin | ok, something seriously exploded | 11:03 |
| pwnguin | i'd like to make a copy of kern.log or something | 11:03 |
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| sayers | How do I get this mp3 to work ... grr | 11:26 |
| sayers | Ah got it. That was a lot harder than usual. | 11:27 |
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| sayers | When I get opted to report a problem I should right? | 11:42 |
| gnomefreak | sayers: yes | 11:43 |
| sayers | looks like I need an account. Anyway that bug was self-induced | 11:44 |
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| Pici | Anyone with xgl+fglrx successfully using compiz-fusion? | 11:50 |
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| Pici | Anyone with xgl-fglrx unsuccessfully using compiz-fusion? | 11:57 |
| gnomefreak | Pici: its stilla bit broken | 12:00 |
| Pici | gnomefreak: I know :/ | 12:01 |
| gnomefreak | more than likely everyone is in same state you are | 12:01 |
| Pici | Well, at least I'm not alone. | 12:03 |
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| omha | hey | 12:29 |
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