[12:31] to that [12:32] superm1: anybody can make a factoid [12:33] just needs approval from ubuntu-ops [12:33] oh so it doesn't even need to be Seveas? [12:33] yep [12:34] IIRC you just need to type: ub0tu: mythbuntu is xyz [12:34] (chang the nick back) :) [12:35] okay i msged it to ubotu [12:35] we'll see if she learns it [12:36] did he say, i'll remember that? [12:36] she said she'll as #ubuntu-ops [12:36] to ack it [12:36] 15:35 < ubotu> In ubotu, superm1 said: mythbuntu is An Ubuntu derivative centered upon setting up a standalone MythTV box. See http://www.mythbuntu.org for more information [12:36] yay \o/ its fucking working! [12:37] superm1: approved! [12:37] 15:35.... how are you 2 hours behind me Daviey ? [12:37] !mythbuntu [12:37] Sorry, I don't know anything about mythbuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [12:37] !mythbuntu [12:37] its 17:35 on my clock [12:38] superm1: I'm working from a warped timezone [12:38] ah that makes sense [12:38] to get more time to finish the metas before tomorrow :) [12:38] yep! [12:38] That's california time [12:38] good idea [12:39] Ah.. seems ubotu is broken :( [12:42] !mythbuntu [12:42] mythbuntu is an Ubuntu derivative centered upon setting up a standalone MythTV system. See: http://www.mythbuntu.org for more information [12:42] there we go [12:42] !mythbuntu [12:43] too fast [12:44] seems there is a bug with the caps.. :SX [12:44] ie: [12:44] !Mythbuntu [12:44] mythbuntu is an Ubuntu derivative centered upon setting up a standalone MythTV system. See: http://www.mythbuntu.org for more information [12:44] but they couldn't add it with a caps for some reason.. odd [12:47] !Mythbuntu [12:47] Mythbuntu is an Ubuntu derivative centered upon setting up a standalone MythTV system. See: http://www.mythbuntu.org for more information [12:47] ^ Cap :) [12:47] Daviey, who are you talking to about that? [12:47] #ubuntu-ops [12:47] your not in it according to whois though? [12:48] you're whois is borked [12:48] if i whois myself it shows [12:48] weird [12:48] channels : #mythtv-users #ubuntu-kernel ##kernel #ubuntu-fridge #ubuntu-devel #ubuntu-ops #ubuntu-mythtv #ubuntu-uk [12:49] * [Daviey] (i=daviey@ubuntu/member/daviey): Dave Walker [12:49] * [Daviey] #ubuntu-devel #ubuntu-mythtv [12:49] works on myself though [12:49] * [superm1] (i=malimonc@ubuntu/member/superm1): Mario Limonciello [12:49] * [superm1] #ubuntu-chicago #ubuntu-devel #ubuntu-motu #ubuntu-mythtv [12:49] is that the same thing you see? [12:49] Ahh. It is only show the channels we share existance in [12:50] superm1: you = channels : #ubuntu-chicago #ubuntu-devel #ubuntu-motu #ubuntu-mythtv [12:50] I must have switched on hiding or something [12:50] no that can't be it [12:50] because look at this [12:50] * [rogue780] (n=rogue780@c-68-55-176-33.hsd1.md.comcast.net): shawn haggard [12:50] * [rogue780] #dovecot #qmail #postfix #mysql #skyos #gimp ##php ##c++ #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntu-mythtv #ubuntu [12:50] oh [12:50] I think there is a account option to hide you [12:50] you swtiched on hiding [12:50] not me [12:51] yeah [12:51] Didn't actually know it did that.. how odd [12:52] don't see such an option for xchat [12:52] irssi must have it though then huh [12:52] naa it's a /msg nickserv option [12:55] try whoising me now [12:55] same thing [12:56] just wanna say thank you guys for helping me with this .. know ive been a pain in the ass sometimes but now my htpc is up and running and everything is working :D [12:56] glad everything is working kruuli :) [12:56] thanks mate! [12:56] but ive got to say [12:57] if someone asks me if they should install a linux htpc and they never even touched linux befor ..ill say NO! [12:57] :p [12:57] well kruuli the goal of mythbuntu here in the end will be so that people who aren't very experienced can set a machine up [12:58] yeah i think it will be great :) [12:58] so if you can compile a list of things you ran into that need to be fixed, it can definitely help the process [12:58] bc now when i got it running it rocks! love the mythweb! [12:58] i will do that! [12:58] or things that documentation is non existant [12:58] or needs updating [12:58] anything like that [12:59] yeah ill sit down tomorrow and go thru it [12:59] those of us using these things and working on them on a day to day basis don't catch such things [12:59] awesome [12:59] btw .. did you ever get to test you new shine nvidia stuff? [12:59] yes [12:59] and it works on the tv's i've tried with [12:59] hehe can understand that .. didnt know what sudo was when i started : [12:59] but my friend said it drove his monitor to way to high of a resolution [12:59] great! [01:00] so i'll have to see what the input is after next alpha [01:00] did you say "whine"? [01:00] ^^ [01:00] i did? [01:02] nah .. meant to your friend who were complaining about the res :> [01:02] if that was your answer [01:02] haha. [01:02] i told him that i'll think about it [01:03] hehe [01:03] found out some stuff about xbmcmythtv btw [01:03] it sucks at Live Tv [01:03] not even working atm [01:04] how fast is the channel changing on a mythfrontend? [01:04] depends on the tuner [01:07] any experince with the pvr 150? [01:07] cuz in xbmcmythtv it takes like 10-15 sec to start it [01:08] Takes me around 5 secs to change livetc channel [01:08] ah k [01:08] and xbmc prolly takes 5 sec to cache the file [01:13] when i tune an analogue station, it takes 1-2 seconds [01:13] for digital stations if its on the same mplex, its <1 second [01:14] if its a different mplex, its 8>time>5 seconds [01:15] same multiplex still takes me 5-7 secs [01:15] but i never notice any of the times though [01:15] because i dont watch live :) [01:16] me neither [01:16] but the misses watches music channels on livetv [01:16] superm1, what's that? [01:16] sometimes i'll put livetv on for the daughters cartoons [01:16] rogue780, you were used as an example [01:16] dont worry :) [01:17] 'tis ok. I'm used to being used ;) === Daviey likes to see an exaple made of rogue780 [01:17] hopefullt others will learn not to be naughty [01:17] :) [01:17] good news everyone...I defeated someone at supreme commander [01:18] 'twas quite a battle...but in the end he who held the largest gun won [01:18] keescook, don't worry about the gtk theme later this week, i got themuso to re-ack and upload it [01:19] is there a way to have myth reenter previously recorded shows into the database when the database was lost and all you have is the drive that stores videos? [01:21] rogue780, yes [01:21] but its not fun [01:22] there is a script in the contrib directory (/usr/share/doc/mythtv-backend/contrib i think) [01:22] yeah, you'll need to manually type the name etc of the shows [01:22] imo its not worth it [01:22] watch what you need through mythvideo [01:23] unless you can grab a backlisting from somebody [01:23] and then delete it [01:23] seems to me, now call me crazy, that as myth records and deletes it should maintain a file...like /videos/.showmetadata that can be read in the event of a crash [01:24] rogue780, which packages are you using? [01:24] feisty? [01:24] there are database backups made [01:24] I seem to mess up my server a lot...I should know better, but I just can't help myself from messin' with stuff [01:24] automatically [01:24] superm1, right....is there a way to define where the backups are stored? [01:24] atm they go to /var/backups i think [01:24] dont remember off hand [01:25] its somewhere in /var [01:25] and yes that can be customized [01:25] rogue780: you can export an sql file for each recording.. that could be made to be a cron job with some hacking. Then it would store a .sql file for each recoridng [01:25] but if you have a DB backup, you can just restore that [01:26] and hopefully get a lot of them back [01:26] that would be cool if I could customize it...'cause it's useless as ::random noun:: on a ::other random noun:: if it's on the same drive that dies [01:26] easily [01:26] I used to have a cron job that backed up the entire mythconverg database...but I lost it [01:26] rogue780: myth.rebuilddatabase.pl === superm1 adjusts the picture he has in his head for how mythbuntu control centre will work to include this functionality [01:27] superm1, how'd you get a list of all the channels I'm in? [01:27] /whois $NICK [01:28] sweetness [01:28] well I think I'm gonna buy a new car [01:29] DaveMorris, i told you that mythtv-setup is moved to before reboot right [01:29] so the docs could reflect that [01:29] my clutch just died...and so I'm gonna fix it and get a new (used) one before more things start breaking :) [01:30] english word for a tv picture jumping all over the place? [01:30] choppy picture? [01:30] garbled [01:30] thanks [01:30] I would go with garbled [01:31] rogue780, can you get pms? [01:31] normally only females can AIUI [01:32] haha Daviey very funny [01:34] lol [01:35] superm1: sweet, thanks === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:39] superm1: yep [01:39] DaveMorris, I can get you more screen caps showing that if you need them later tonight [01:39] so you dont have to download the ISO [01:39] to make them [01:39] nah, not yet [01:39] ok [01:40] I'll get all the drafts sorted 1st [01:41] k. i've got some finishing touches re: vnc to make sure the passwords are sane length, and then toy with the prefilling the database and i'm done with everything planned on alpha 2 === Waltefitz [n=genefitz@c-24-22-245-41.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Waltefitz [n=genefitz@c-24-22-245-41.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Leaving"] === Waltefitz [n=genefitz@c-24-22-245-41.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Waltefitz [n=genefitz@c-24-22-245-41.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Leaving"] === tgm4883 [n=thomas@c-67-160-174-176.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === varka [n=varkatop@p54A5FD57.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-117-203-17.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-117-203-17.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === btn [n=benny@ppp59-167-71-1.lns1.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === DaveMorris [n=dave@cubert.itri.bton.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === tyrus40be [n=x@d54C2D861.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:54] Can anyone help a linux-newby? I've installed Ubuntu 7.04, done a update, made a LinuxMCE CD from the iso, downloaded and run the mce-installer. I didn't see any CD-access and the 'instell Linux MCE'-icon doesn't do much except asking my password! === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-117-203-17.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:56] Can anyone help a linux-newby? I've installed Ubuntu 7.04, done a update, made a LinuxMCE CD from the iso, downloaded and run the mce-installer. I didn't see any CD-access and the 'instell Linux MCE'-icon doesn't do much except asking my password! [11:10] oh well [11:26] this is the right channel to ask stuff about linuxmce, huh? [11:30] yep === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-117-203-17.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === krokodile [n=krokodil@85.183.156.146] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === krokodile [n=krokodil@85.183.156.146] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Kopete] === a5benwillis [n=benwilli@72.159.132.4] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === anodesni [n=folkert@82-171-154-147.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:28] HI [03:28] hi [03:28] My xdtv recordings don't have sound [03:28] I guess xdtv can't find my tv-sound source [03:29] Does anyone know how to solve it [03:29] xdtv, whats that? [03:29] that's a tv application [03:29] to watch and record tv [03:29] ok, and your trying to play them back with mythtv? [03:30] no [03:30] I thougth you guys know how to solve this problem [03:30] And the #ubuntu channel is too busy [03:30] I personally don't, I've never used the software [03:30] is there a ubuntu-mce channel? [03:30] !mce [03:31] Sorry, I don't know anything about mce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [03:31] !ubuntu-mce [03:31] Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-mce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [03:31] I don't know, I see [03:31] ok [03:31] !umc [03:31] Sorry, I don't know anything about umc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [03:32] DaveMorris, okay fyi: root mysql password stuff is added now, vnc password length is restricted to 6+ characters [03:32] there is no ubuntu mce channel [03:33] anodesni: then talk to the ubuntu MCE guys [03:33] oh [03:34] you are not using ubuntu mce, right? hm [03:34] I said, there is NO ubuntu mce channel [03:34] anodesni: there are other means of contacting them. [03:34] I know [03:34] actually I just want to record some tv [03:34] I don't know how to do it [03:35] and mythtv is just overkill for me === Obeah [n=Obeah@66.249.38.48] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [03:38] Is there an alternative to Zap2it? [03:43] Obeah, not at this poitn [03:43] the mythtv devs are stilll working that out [03:46] I love vnc over 10 miles === chairman [n=chairman@host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Obeah [n=Obeah@66.249.38.48] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:06] rogue780: miles? [04:06] 1 mile = ~2.2km [04:06] my traffic gets routed through berlin first, and that's like the other end of germany [04:06] DaveMorris: ORLY? :) [04:07] 1mi = 5280ft ;) [04:07] I think [04:07] so, 1.6km [04:07] *sorry === superm1_ [i=malimonc@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:24] imbrandon, are you here? [04:33] yea [04:33] sorry i'll get back to your email to [04:33] been hela busy [04:33] sounds like it, haven't seen you around irc in ages :) [04:33] hehe i'm always on [04:33] about 12 hours a day but i rarely talk [04:33] :) [04:34] well while we have you, did you ever get the multiple aliases sorted out? [04:34] so we can have mock mailing lists via mythbuntu.org [04:35] ahh i totaly forgot aobut it honestly [04:35] i'll get on that today [04:35] its my "friday" at work and i'm off in 30 minutes so i'll have time [04:35] :) [04:35] awesome === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-117-203-17.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [05:29] laga I looked closer to the templates yesterday, i don't know why I didn't even think of the possibility of there being code for a user AND a password. silly me - now i'll have to add a user to the gui too) [05:36] heh :) [05:44] superm1: http://pastebin.ca/593817 [05:49] bah.. AIUI that would mean it would require irexec rather than using the hooks mythfrontend provides [05:49] irexec? [05:50] I mean simulating keypresses using the remote rather than using the events mythFE exposes === DaveMorris still confused [05:51] \me uses and ATI RW2 though [05:52] i think i've confused myself now :S [05:53] I'll try it over the weekend === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:22] DaveMorris, so i'm confused now [06:22] DaveMorris, they want a lirc configuration plugin? [06:27] no I was asking about one, and mythcontrol might be able to do it they said, if not it can prob be easily added to it [06:28] OpenMedia has a web based remote [06:28] that they wrote [06:28] and were going to contribute [06:28] mythcontorls can likely do as said though [06:28] *mythcontrols [06:29] we'll have to talk about mythbuntu plans for lirc for alpha 3 as soon as alpha 2 is announced === superm1 points a laser pointer as Daviey [06:30] webbased remote? that configuring it? # [06:30] to control from a web browser [06:30] say on a mobile phone [06:30] or a laptop [06:31] hmmm === superm1 has to run. Be back in 3.5 hours [06:31] so I connect over gprs on my mobile, up to the net and back down again [06:31] sounds expensive [06:33] superm1: where are the 'devscripts' for the meta's? [06:33] Doh! === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-117-203-17.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === rogue780 spilled coke on his laptop last night, and now the speakers are popping [07:32] http://digg.com/linux_unix/NATIVE_Google_Desktop_for_Ubuntu_with_Debs_and_Screenshot [07:32] digg my story please === imbrandon stops spamming [07:36] dugg it === kruuli [i=kruuli@c-bcb772d5.013-36-73746f51.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:59] imbrandon: dugg :) [07:59] elo [07:59] any tip to reduce flickering [08:00] what sort of flickering? [08:03] well the picture is in 2 layers sometime [08:03] distorted [08:03] and very jumpy [08:03] I'm not certain what you mean; but maybe de-interlacing might help [08:04] i should add that as a filter? [08:04] yeah [08:04] thanks daviey [08:05] what processor does our fe have? [08:06] does *your fe.. [08:07] ive got the EPIA-M card [08:07] VIA C3/ VIA Eden EBGA processor [08:08] 933mhz [08:14] I think you want to use 'Bob' then [08:17] kruuli, what kind of output are you using? [08:17] none [08:18] streaming to my xbox [08:18] oh [08:18] using xbmcmythtv [08:18] oh, that changes everything then :) [08:18] it does? :o [08:18] ^^ [08:18] I thought this was problems on a myth based system [08:19] I know nothing about xbmcmythtv [08:19] its a mythbased problem [08:19] One thing i would expect is the hardware is limiting you. It's only a dinky processor [08:19] my recordings are not working [08:19] the cpu got a workload for like 10% when recording [08:19] when you're watching a programme; try 'top' to see what the usage is [08:19] im talking about recordings :) [08:19] (on the xbox frontend) [08:19] kruuli, can you view the recordings on another system? and is it HD or SD? [08:20] not hd [08:20] im recording them on my pc .. streams thru the network to my xmbcmythtv [08:20] VIA Backend ---> XBox Frontend - right? [08:20] yeah [08:20] and im not talking live tv [08:20] only rec [08:20] See what the 'top' is when watching.. [08:20] then the xb should be able to handle the video as far as processor is concerned [08:21] i wasnt watching anything when this was recorded [08:21] worth ruling out first imo [08:21] its the recording it self thats broken [08:21] So on your VIA system, it also looks naff? [08:22] yes [08:23] kruuli, what kind of input cards are you using? and are they correct as far as PAL/NTSC is concerned? [08:23] rogue780 using the pvr 150 thats it and everything is set to PAL [08:24] good signal? [08:24] yes [08:24] is the frequency setting in mythtv-setup right? [08:24] using a gold layer Supra cable [08:25] yes the picture is as good as it gets when using a analog source [08:26] can you try the cards in a different system? [08:26] its more interlacing on specific channels .. on some there are none [08:26] rogue780 yeah can try the 150 on this computer [08:26] have you tried turning on deinterlace? or trying a different interlace scheme? [08:27] but do you think the card itself is broken? [08:27] no i have not [08:27] will try that now [08:29] added de-interlacing to the videofilter option in mythweb [08:29] all i need to do to try it? [08:30] the workload is below 5% when recording [08:30] try that. also if that doesn't work then in the setup menu of mythtv on your frontend under the tv playback options there is also a deinterlace option [08:30] ok [08:30] not sure if it is there with xbmcmythtv, but it should be [08:31] xbmcmythtv is just a mplayer with the information that the backend gives out [08:31] ah [08:31] well see if that deinterlace option in mythweb helps [08:31] it takes the info from the mysql db and grabber thats it .. uses SMB to stream the file [08:32] yeah recording as we speak :D [08:32] 'cause that's probably the problem..you're playing interlaced video on a progressive scan display [08:32] hum ok [08:32] why is it using interlaced? [08:33] television signals are interlaced, and normal televisions interpret interlaced signals...it used to be more efficient back in the day. as technology progressed the standard was not updated for SDTV [08:33] ah ok [08:34] so the signal is sent as two signals (AFAIK) and the tv puts it back together with the CRT [08:34] so normaly my tv takes care of the "problem" on the fly :> [08:34] right [08:34] but my tv supports both standards .. should it not adjust? [08:35] what kind of input are you using into the tv? [08:35] xbox [08:35] scart [08:35] ah but the problem is the 150 card right? its recording in progressive on a interlaced signal? [08:36] no. [08:36] right. scart signals aren't normally interlaced...so the tv doesn't know it's interlaced [08:36] rogue780: scart signals are normally interlaced. [08:36] it's just composite/s-vhs/RGB. [08:36] laga, really? I thought they were progressive [08:36] my bad. [08:36] the problem would be the tv-out encoder in the xbox, IMHO [08:37] the tv-out encoder takes a progressive signal and outputs an interlaced one. if they timing/fields of the input video don't exactly match what the tv-out encoder is going to output, you will get artefacts [08:38] s/they/the/ [08:38] at least that's how i understand it :) [08:39] laga i can RW my chip between NTSC and PAL [08:40] wich one is to prefer? [08:40] my tv supports both aswell [08:40] chip on the xbox that is [08:40] always get as close as possible to the input signal [08:40] eg your recordings [08:42] PAL it is then [08:57] update [08:57] de-interlacing filter made it alot better [08:57] woooo [08:57] but im still experincing some artifacts [08:58] its worse during the commercials for some reason [08:58] should i try [08:58] settings-> tv -> playback enable deinterlace and select kernel-deinterlacer [08:58] that? [08:59] think my system will be up for it? the workload is about 8% when recording and watching [08:59] hum wait a minute [08:59] thats a setting in the mythtv frontend right? [08:59] im not even using that :o === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:49] Daviey, devscripts for metas? === MegaQuark__ [n=gary@pool-71-117-203-17.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Cry_wolf2 [n=ads@c-7c5ce155.218-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Cry_wolf2 [n=ads@c-7c5ce155.218-2-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] [11:43] ive yet to come up with a good way to search my hd for files in ubuntu .. any sugestions? [11:43] *suggestions [11:44] kruuli, beagle, strigi, or google desktop [11:45] thanks again superm1 .. gonna try google dekstop i belive .. thought about installing it on my win pc before :) === MegaQuark_ [n=gary@pool-71-117-203-17.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === chairman [n=chairman@host-81-191-129-68.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv