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amigravehi all. What's the difference between php5-mysql and php5-mysqli (improved)12:16
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funjonso, I have an interesting issue with a dapper server, apache2 isn't honoring "HostnameLookups Off" in the apache2.conf file.  anyone seen this before?04:53
funjonnoone?05:05
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NxionHi I am in need of some help with apache05:08
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funjonyou and me both buddy05:18
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ivoks'morning08:47
ivoksanybody has any experinece with ubuntu and fail over or load balancing cluster?08:56
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ivoksdrbd+ha?09:00
fabbioneleave alone drbd.. it's not exactly stable :)09:01
fabbionebut ha.. yes09:01
ivoks:) ok09:01
ivoksi did openmosix load balancing, but never did fail over09:01
ivoksbut one request is comming for that, so pdfs, here i come :)09:02
fabbioneivoks: it would be useful if you can give me a description of what you need to achieve09:03
ivoksi don't have deatils yet :/09:04
fabbioneseriously.. get them first :)09:05
ivoksi got request for info about 'Ubuntu fail over' and 'Ubuntu load balancing' :)09:05
fabbioneat least to have an idea of what you need to achieve09:05
ivoksi agree09:05
fabbionewe have 2/3 solutions around, but how you configure them are really dependent on what you need to achieve09:06
ivoksi expect that i'll be needing mirrored disks09:06
fabbionefor load balancing you want to look at ipvsadm09:06
fabbioneright, but that does mean that you have a SAN or NAS or you need to simulate that?09:06
fabbionethat's already a huge problem to address09:06
ivoksthat's something i don't know yet :/09:07
fabbioneyeah and that's the first thing you need to discover09:08
ivoksbottom line, it can be done?09:08
fabbioneyes it can be done09:08
ivoksgreat09:08
fabbionebrb09:09
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ivoksfabbione: if i have two computers, each has 100GB partition, could i mirror them over (gigabit) ethernet and could i use, instead of drbd, gfs (or something else) for that?09:15
fabbionebzzzzt09:16
fabbionegfs is a filesystem09:16
fabbionedrbd is a block device09:16
fabbione2 different things09:16
ivoksok, shame on me09:16
fabbionefor that setup you need something like drbd (but test it HEAVILY!)09:17
ivoksi kind of knew that, but...09:17
fabbionelike you take a 95GB partition on both disks09:17
fabbioneand drdb it09:17
fabbionethen and only after that09:17
fabbioneyou need a cluster fs on top09:17
fabbionelike ocfs2 or gfs109:17
fabbioneto be able to mount the fs on both nodes at the same time09:17
ivoksas i understand, with drbd, i should mount it only one one computer (sorry, this is for failover)09:18
ivoksthank you for info and solutions!09:19
fabbioneyou can mount it on both IF you use a proper FS09:20
ivoksocfs2 and gfs1... ok09:20
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fabbioneivoks: it really depends from the kind of cluster you want to build and on top of what kind of hw09:32
fabbionethe fs selection is really "personal"09:32
fabbioneand it needs to fit your requirements09:32
CrummyGummyHiya, I have a program that I want to package for ubuntu. Maybe get it in the official repo. Please point me to the applicable resources.09:33
fabbioneCrummyGummy: you want to ask in #ubuntu-motu09:34
ivoksfabbione: yeah, i know, i did load balancing with openmosix already and what one woul use realy does depends on what you have09:34
ivoksfabbione: i just needed info 'it can be done' - this is everything i need, everything else is up to me09:35
CrummyGummyfabbione, Thanks09:36
fabbioneivoks: ok09:36
fabbioneCrummyGummy: np09:36
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stonekeeperHi all. I'm getting a delay of about 5-10secs on ssh-ing into my 6.06 server. My reverse DNS is fine and verified. Any ideas what it could be? thanks.11:42
stonekeeperhmmm... I don't think this is a ssh issue. pinging the hostname has the same delay, however pinging the ip works fine. Oddly, it works fine for my mate next to me with the same resolv.conf... ah well.11:46
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J-_How do I find out which groupname I use on my LAMP install?11:54
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shawarmaJ-_: Huh?11:55
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stonekeepernetsplit?11:56
J-_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP setting up my apache configuration. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-6aac570a36ae91754513949f6b2d1df5e61fe5ac11:56
shawarmaJ-_: Same as your username.11:57
J-_so where it says User www-data and Group www-data, I replace User and Group with my username?12:00
J-_=S|12:00
J-_not really sure what I'm suppose to do.12:01
J-_do I repalce user-agent with <username>-agent?12:02
J-_replace*12:02
J-_and the like12:02
J-_Hello?12:10
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shawarmaJ-_: No, you replace www-data with your username.12:23
shawarmaYou should probably not change anything with regard to user-agents..12:23
J-_shawarma: so User <username> Group <username>12:40
shawarmaJ-_: Not on one line, but yes.12:45
J-_cool, thanks12:49
J-_should I use bastille to harden the security of the server?12:50
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ajmitchsamba 3.0.35b for me to merge now, yay! ;)12:51
mathiazajmitch: 3.0.35b ? hum... that looks like the futur to me... ;)01:05
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stonekeepercan't wait for samba 4!01:05
ajmitchs/35/25/ :)01:06
ajmitchthough 3.0.35 would be nice01:06
mathiazis there a reason why a dead process still has its entry in /proc ?01:28
mathiazin my case, it's a mysqld process that is dead01:29
mathiazbut the old entry entry in /proc can still be listed01:30
mathiazalthough ls /proc doesn't list the dead pid01:30
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shawarmamathiaz: Weird. Lemme check something..01:44
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shawarmamathiaz: Yeah.. Even zombies stick around in a /proc listing.01:48
mathiazshawarma: ps -ef doesn't show the dead proc01:48
shawarmamathiaz: No, ps -ef works by enumerating /proc.. :)01:49
mathiazshawarma: it was a mysqld daemon that was restarted01:49
mathiazshawarma: yeah. that's why it doesn't show up.01:49
shawarmamathiaz: My point, excactly.01:49
mathiazshawarma: but I can still cd in /proc/376201:49
mathiazshawarma: and access all the files in it01:50
shawarmamathiaz: Sounds fishy.01:50
mathiazshawarma: (that why I know it was a mysqld daemon)01:50
shawarmamathiaz: I can only remember seeing that when I was testing a rootkit.01:51
shawarmamathiaz: I think I'd ask the kernel guys when they wake up.01:52
shawarmaor in -devel.01:52
shawarmaPeople are clever :)01:52
mathiazshawarma: yeah -devel is busy with the tribe2 release01:52
mathiazis there a ubuntu-kernel on freenode ?01:52
shawarmasure01:53
shawarmaThe kernel team is US/Canadian, so they're probably still sleeping.01:53
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incorrectim trying to create a server unattended install over pxe02:16
incorrectso far i keep ending up with more packages than i need02:16
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dthackerHi, I'm trying to set up an internal DNS server, and I have a syntax error that is giving me fits.  The info is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=485782.  I'd be grateful for any help you could give me.  Thanks!02:48
mathiazdthacker: what's the error message you get ?02:50
mathiazdthacker: I'm looking at your post.02:51
dthackerwarning, this is long.02:51
dthackerdns_rdata_fromtext: /etc/bind/zones/dthacker.org.db:7: near eol: unexpected end of input02:52
dthackerzone dthacker.org/IN: loading master file /etc/bind/zones/dthacker.org.db: unexpected end of input02:52
dthacker_default/dthacker.org/IN: unexpected end of input02:52
mathiazdthacker: could you try adding a blank line at the end of the file ?02:54
dthackermathiaz: yes, trying now.02:55
dthackermathiaz: waiting for pastebin.... 02:59
J-_how hard is it to setup httpd in a LAMP installation, and would it be necessary on a server.no-ip.com domain?02:59
dthackermathiaz: new line did not help.  I have opened the file in vi and done a "set list" to show eol chars It's at http://pastebin.com/93830403:00
shawarmadthacker: Can I see your named.conf?03:01
dthackershawarma: yes, let me post it to pastebin03:01
bjeanyone able to help me with a problem I've got with linux-kernel-di-i386 compilation?03:03
bjekernel-wedge install-files install -D -m 644 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20.3-ubuntu1-386 debian/kernel-image-2.6.20.3-386-di/boot/vmlinuz install -D -m 644 /boot/System.map-2.6.20.3-ubuntu1-386 debian/kernel-image-2.6.20.3-386-di/boot/System.map kernel-wedge copy-modules 2.6.20.3 386 2.6.20.3-ubuntu1-38603:03
shawarmabje: Sounds like a topic for #ubuntu-kernel03:04
bjemissing module ide-core03:04
bjecommand exited with status 103:04
bjeah, cool, thanks. let me try over there!03:04
shawarmabje: They're all on US time, though, so they may not be around yet (but real soon now).03:04
shawarmadthacker: Well?03:04
dthackershawarma: all my changes are in named.conf.local.  http://pastebin.com/93830803:05
shawarmaMan, pastebin is low today.03:05
shawarmaslow..03:05
dthackerJ-_: httpd is necessary to run a web server no matter what the domain.  Is that your question?03:06
incorrectnewbie questions, is there a security alert email group?03:07
mathiazincorrect: you mean a mailing list where ubuntu security advisories are sent ?03:07
bjeincorrect: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-security-announce03:08
incorrecti would like to receive security updates03:09
shawarmadthacker: You look like you're missing the contact address bit in your SOA. I don't know if that would cause this to happen, though.03:10
mathiazincorrect: as bje mentioned, you're looking for ubuntu-security-announce mailing list.03:10
dthackershawarma: I've been building this file from three different tutorials, each of which seems to me missing something.  Where should the contact address go?03:11
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shawarmadthacker: After the name of the authoritative name server. Replace the @ with a dot.03:11
dthackershawarma: to be clear, which file is that in? dthacker.org.db?03:12
shawarmadthacker: "/etc/bind/zones/dthacker.org.db"03:12
shawarmadthacker: Possibly "/etc/bind/zones/rev.168.192.in-addr.arpa" too03:13
incorrect:) i just subscribed :) thanks03:13
dthackerlets try it out......03:13
mathiazdthacker: you may consider reviewing/updating/improving the Bind9 Server How-to03:13
mathiazdthacker: here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto03:13
dthackermathiaz: tnx I will definitely look it over....03:14
incorrecti would ideally like to use ubuntu as my server, because i find working and building my own debs is really easy,   however i am sure i will get asked,  why don't we use redhat03:14
shawarmaincorrect: Why, actually?03:15
shawarmaincorrect: Er.. I don't mean : "Why are you actually not running RedHat?", but rather "Why would the actually ask that?"03:15
incorrectbecause someone told them redhat was good or something03:15
incorrecti guess its because they think they can buy commercial support03:16
shawarmaI can send them an e-mail saying that Ubuntu rocks, if you like? :)03:16
bjeTo be fair, right now, I would opt to go Red Hat03:16
shawarmaUbuntu has commercial support too.03:16
dthackershawarma: that indeed was the problem.   tnx to you and mathiaz for taking time to help!03:16
shawarmadthacker: np03:16
incorrectbut you can for ubuntu, so thats not an arguement03:16
mathiazbje: why would you opt to go Redhat ?03:16
bjeCanonical's support is shocking so far - there's no contact numbers on their web site, they do not reply to the web form where you can leave them a message to contact you back :(03:17
incorrecti got a response from canonical03:17
incorrectvery quickly03:17
shawarmaMe too. 03:17
bjeThen there's the fact that there's no updated kernels for the LTS releases -- kernels that support the latest HP kit03:17
bjeWe actually moved to Dapper LTS just because of that reason03:18
shawarmabje: I'm not entirely sure, but I suspect the lack of phonenumber is to keep random people (i.e. people without support contracts) from calling whenever something breaks on their system.03:18
bjeshawarma: sure, that's fine03:18
bjeshawarma: but then they should follow up on the people that would like support.03:18
shawarmabje: Absolutely.03:18
dthackerhave to go to my paying gig,  I'll update my forum post at lunchtime US.  good localtime all. 03:18
shawarmabje: When was this?03:18
bjeshawarma: right now, we'd like to pay any amount of money to get this problem resolved (because of the lack of documentation to do something)03:19
bjeshawarma: I requested them to contact me two days ago03:19
shawarmabje: Your e-mail, please?03:19
shawarmaJust in a /msg if you want.03:19
shawarmaEr.. No, you're not registered with nickserv. You probably can't /msg me.03:19
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bjeheh, hang on.03:20
shawarmaThat's better. :)03:20
bjeAnyway, so the problem is still: why is the LTS kernels not being updated, and support for new hardware being added?03:22
bjeLast kernel update was sometime in Jan 2007 :(03:23
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shawarmabje: Getting new hardware support in while being absolutely sure that you're not breaking stuff that works already is very difficult to do and next to impossible to test. 03:26
shawarmabje: That said, there should be an update on its way.03:27
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nealmcbbje: can you tell me more about the hp kit that isn't supported by the current kernel?03:35
incorrecti have a large number of boxes to deploy, first off i have pxe boot with an unattended install working,  however when it comes to configuring the network for each host what would be best?03:38
incorrectshould i have dhcp update the dns server?03:38
incorrector should i have static ip addresses?03:38
mathiazincorrect: what do you want to do with dhcp update the dns server ?03:43
incorrectwell you can push updates into bind from dhcp03:43
bjenealmcb: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2007-June/000493.html03:43
mathiazincorrect: yeah - if you configure your client to send the hostname03:43
mathiazincorrect: as part of the dhcp request03:44
incorrectso would it be better to do that, than to configure static ips?03:44
mathiazincorrect: hum. that depends. are you installing a cluster of computers ?03:44
mathiazincorrect: or standard workstations ?03:45
mathiazincorrect: usually it's better to use dhcp.03:45
bjenealmcb: HP DL320's with Dapper LTS and LSI SAS 1068 RAID controller - Dapper got support for it, but it just hangs during the installer (at partman time).  Using a very early version of the LSI drivers, the drivers used in Edgy's kernel still causes the card to lock up, fixed in Feisty. 03:45
mathiazincorrect: you can send new network parameters to clients03:45
mathiazincorrect: and everything is managed centrally.03:45
incorrectwell its a hosting platform, there will be a number of database server, app servers, etc03:45
incorrecti think dhcp and do static mappings would be pretty smart03:46
mathiazincorrect: and you want to make sure that dns and reverse dns is working properly03:46
mathiazincorrect: yeah - you can do that. That's what I'd suggest03:46
incorrecti've set it up before, i just can't make up my mind which is the best strategy03:46
incorrectthanks :) its good to talk to someone03:46
mathiazincorrect: what I used to do is to use hostname in dhcpd.conf 03:47
mathiazincorrect: to setup static ip mapping03:47
jdstrandmathiaz: it is possible to setup dhcp to construct a hostname on the fly for the update03:47
mathiazincorrect: and do the ip - hostname mapping in the dns03:47
incorrectyep. i've done that before03:47
mathiazthat way you only maintain ip - hostname mapping in one place03:47
mathiaz(in the dns database)03:48
jdstrandmatthiaz: not that it is the best solution here-- I just started reading03:48
mathiazand you maintain the MAC - hostname mapping in the dhcp database03:48
mathiazjdstrand: yeah. It's just that dns update from dhcp is not that standard.03:49
mathiazjdstrand: I think it comes from the windows world, where the client sends his hostname03:49
jdstrandmathiaz: no, and its a pain to adminster bind once you start down that road03:49
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mathiazjdstrand: during the dhcp request.03:50
jdstrandmathiaz: I am not sure about dhcpd 2 but dhcp3 let's you use03:50
mathiazjdstrand: yes. I agree with you. dynamic dns update is complex.03:50
jdstrandmathiaz: either the client supplied hostname or can generate it for you03:51
jdstrandmathiaz: can be convenient in some case, but rather a pain to administer (eg always have to use nsupdate)03:51
mathiazjdstrand: yes. And I think it only works between dhcp3 and bind03:52
mathiazjdstrand: so if you use another dns server, you're stuck.03:52
mathiazjdstrand: I used tinydns with isc dhcp server, in which case dynamic dns update is not possible.03:53
jdstrandmathiaz: only used it with bind and dhcpd3, but that sounds right03:53
jdstrandmathiaz: it can be pretty convenient if you separate out your networks though03:55
mathiazjdstrand: in which way ?03:55
jdstrandmathiaz: have your dhcp workstations, ip phones, etc use dynamic dns in one zone, and your servers use static in another zone03:55
jdstrandmathiaz: this assumes you don't want any staic ip's in the dynamic dns zone of course03:56
jdstrandmathiaz: but if that is the case, then you won't need to use nsupdate much03:56
jdstrandmathiaz: and much of the pain is gone03:57
mathiazjdstrand: well the only case I see where you'd need dns update is when the client sends its hostname and you want to have dns entries setup correctly.03:57
mathiazjdstrand: in the situation where you don't know all the hosts on your network.03:58
jdstrandmathiaz: true.  and this is really only with windows clients that don't allow dhcpd to give it its hostname.04:01
jdstrandmathiaz: I have done this in a heterogenous environment with windows and linux04:02
jdstrandmathiaz: and it helps to make sure the forward and reverse lookups work right, so cups/samba/etc work right04:02
mathiazjdstrand: yop. and ssh login also.04:03
jdstrandmathiaz: I just happened to add ip phones too, for fun04:03
mathiazjdstrand: which windows clients don't support hostname sent via dhcp ?04:03
jdstrandmathiaz: my understanding is that you need to specify a hostname in windows.  it sends that and gets the ip address.04:03
jdstrandmathiaz: it won't ask for an ip address and hostname.04:04
jdstrandmathiaz: like you can do with dhclient04:04
jdstrandmathiaz: I think that setting the hostname is a requirement in windows TCP/IP.  Don't know about vista...04:05
jdstrandmathiaz: maybe there is a way to have dhcpd send windwos the hostname, but I haven't seen it with dhcpd304:07
mathiazjdstrand: I don't know anything about that. It may be a private extension used by the windows dhcp server implementation.04:09
jdstrandmathiaz: yeah, me either.  Not a windows admin-- just know how to get the clients working with free software.  :)04:10
J-_I'm stumped with this LAMP server. Can I not have have the server run while logged out? I'm currently running xubuntu on it, but I have to log into the tty first then startx. what i would like to do is be able to log out of the tty and still have apache run? is it possible, if not, is there a dm I can use that's not gui? 04:13
dendrobatesJ-_: apache forks itself.  So this should be automatic.  How are you starting apache?04:16
incorrecti have a number of machines to install,  what i would like to do rather than get a keyboard and mouse is to extend the vga and usb to my laptop04:17
incorrectdoes anyone know of a device to do this?04:17
mathiazincorrect: look into kvm solutions04:18
incorrectdoes a kvm just share a keyboard and mouse04:18
J-_dendrobates: I figured it would start automagically in the tty... like it does when I start xubuntu.04:19
mathiazincorrect: and a screen04:19
incorrecti don't want to do that04:19
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incorrectbecause i don't want to buy a screen :)04:19
J-_...04:19
J-_incorrect: you only need one screen, keyboard and mouse with a kvm.04:20
incorrecti would use serial cable, but i am worried that the hardware won't have console on serial enabled by default04:20
mathiazincorrect: hum.. you want to connect the vga output to your laptop screen ?04:20
incorrectyep04:20
incorrectand the usb04:20
jdstrandJ-_: it should start on boot.  after rebooting, do: 'ps auxww | grep apache'04:21
dendrobatesJ-_: what do you mean by tty?  are you booting into console mode?  04:21
incorrecti was thinking someone must have made such a crazy adapater04:21
jdstrandJ-: if you see a bunch of apache processes, it is started properly on boot and you don't have to do anything04:21
mathiazincorrect: hum.. Has you laptop an INPUT vga/video plug ?04:21
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incorrecti see where you are going!04:22
incorrecti could get a usb video in04:22
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dendrobatesthere are also ip based kvm's, but I have never used one with ubuntu.04:22
incorrecti was looking for a cheap solution04:23
incorrectits only for initial setup04:23
J-_dendrobates: yes, I'm starting in console mode first. then if I need to configure something, I just type, "startx" to get into xubuntu, configure whatever I need to configure. log out of xubuntu, which brings me back to the console, then log out again, which brings me to the console tty login screen.04:23
mathiazincorrect: well. if it's for a hosting environment, you may need access to the console later.04:24
incorrecti will have setup console on serial by then04:24
mathiazincorrect: if the server is wedged, and you cannot ssh into it, you still want to be able to hook up a screen then04:24
incorrectim having lights out04:24
incorrectilo should take care of the os going bang04:25
mathiazincorrect: but you have an unattended install procude via pxe04:26
dendrobatesJ-_: does '/etc/rc3.d/S91apache2' exist?04:26
incorrectyep pxe works nicely04:26
J-_dendrobates: let me check04:26
mathiazincorrect: so you would'nt need to connect to the vga output04:26
incorrecti guess i can start off running pxe on my laptop04:27
incorrectthat would be ok04:27
mathiazincorrect: and I think that you could even have an ssh server running during the installation04:27
mathiazincorrect: in case you want to ssh in04:27
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J-_when logged into console, apache is started heh. =S dendrobates: no it doesn't excist.04:28
J-_dendrobates: yes it does sorry!04:29
dendrobatesJ-_:  how do you know you have a problem?  It looks like it is configured to start.04:31
jdstrandJ-_: unless you changed your configuration, it will start during the boot process.  It has nothing to do with you logging in.04:31
J-_dendrobates: I figured from the console I could have the computer logged out in the console, and still have apache start. Unless, I need a cli login dm (xdm, gdm, etc)04:34
jdstrandJ-_: you are absolutely correct.  that is the default behavior04:35
jdstrandJ-_: apache should start before you even see the login prompt04:35
jdstrandJ-_: are you sure it isn't starting?04:35
J-_it does start, I've seen it a few times while booting up04:36
J-_=S04:36
dendrobatesJ-_: what makes you think it is stopping.  can you not access it04:36
J-_while at the tty login, I try to go on the server with my desktop, and the page isn't displaying. when I log in, it displays, when I startx it displays04:37
dendrobatesJ-_: if it stops there should be logs in '/var/log/apache2/error.log'04:38
J-_http://smite.serveblog.net/04:38
jdstrandJ-_: can you ping the server from the desktop?04:38
dendrobateswhat init level are you running?04:39
J-_let me check, not sure about the init level.04:39
J-_probably default?04:39
J-_never touched that.04:39
dendrobatesin the console type 'sudo telinit 3'  nad see if it starts anything.04:39
jdstrandJ-_: I just went to that url and it popped up 'serveblog.net'04:39
dendrobatesjdstrand: it didn't work for me.04:40
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J-_dendrobates: I think that did it04:42
J-_dendrobates: thanks04:42
J-_I hope anyway.04:43
J-_=)04:43
dendrobatesJ-_: wait, we need to get you booting correctly, if that is the cause.04:43
J-_dendrobates: can you reach the index of the site?04:43
dendrobates J-_:  yes04:44
jdstranddendrobates: interesting.  I get a Not found from one network and a index from another04:44
J-_hmm04:44
dendrobatesjdstrand: dns?04:44
jdstranddendrobates: 69.159.46.122 for both04:45
J-_??04:45
jdstranddendrobates: cleared my cache too04:45
J-_hmm04:45
jdstranddendrobates: there we go-- same in both04:46
jdstranddendrobates: maybe the isp has a proxy?04:46
J-_don't hack my server =(04:46
J-_lol04:47
jdstrandJ-_: not me!04:47
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dendrobatesJ-_: ???04:48
J-_how did you figure out my IP then?04:48
J-_=X04:48
jdstrandJ-_: you need to make sure you are booting into the correct run level04:48
dendrobates J-_: nslookup smite.serveblog.net04:48
jdstrandJ-_: as dendrobates said04:49
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J-_why lookup my dns?04:49
jdstrandJ-_: it is not private-- that is why I posted it04:49
J-_heh04:50
dendrobates J-_: because he could not reach you server. and is trying to debug.04:50
dendrobatesjdstrand: I can still get to it.04:50
mralphabetumm, you posted the url . . . it doesn't take a giant leap to get the ip address04:50
jdstrandJ-_: the smite.serveblog.net is only a convenience for humans-- computers translate that to the IP04:51
J-_hehe04:51
jdstranddendrobates: yeah, all works now.04:51
mralphabetnot like we're talking the combined brainpower of nasa as a requirement04:51
dendrobatesdamn upstart, does someone know the ubuntu inits better than me.04:51
mathiazthere is no idea of runlevels in ubuntu04:52
dendrobatesthe defaults are in /etc/events.d, i believe.04:52
mathiazdendrobates: it took me a while to understand that.04:52
mathiazfor the integration with upstart it's not done yet.04:52
mathiazthe system starts in runlevel 2.04:53
niekieHi all, I'm managing a sendmail server, and it came to my attention that local users can still spoof mail without getting an added X-Authentication-Warning: header to their mail by adding the From: headers for mails they send themselves, while they're not in /etc/mail/trusted-users. Anyway to prevent that?04:53
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mathiazupstart runs in sys-v compatibility mode04:54
jdstrandmaybe J-_ stopped it or it died and switching to the runlevel just started it again.04:54
dendrobatesJ-_:  does /etc/rc2.d/S91apache2 exist04:54
jdstrandJ-_: without access to the machine, I'd say reboot it and see if it comes up-- if not, then debug...04:54
dendrobatesswitching runlevels would start it if it was down, but why was it down?04:55
jdstrandexactly-- don't know what he has done04:55
dendrobatesJ-_: look at /var/log/apache2/error.log  for anything unusual.04:56
J-_I have access to the machine hehe. dendrobates: 591apache2 exists, and okay04:58
dendrobatesj-_: in meeting for a while will be back.05:01
J-_I use the no-ip daemon to update my IP, will that still work while in console?05:08
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J-_guess I'll see05:10
J-_hehe05:10
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incorrectthis is really irritating, my unattended install keeps installing loads of stuff i don't normally get with a basic install05:25
shawarmaexamples?05:28
incorrectnvidia kernel05:28
incorrectxscreen saver05:29
shawarmaEek.05:29
incorrectlaptop-detect05:29
incorrectselinux05:30
shawarmaRight, I get it.05:31
shawarma:)05:31
leonelselinux ?05:31
incorrectwhy are these on my minimal setup :(05:31
shawarmaHow are you doing the install?05:32
incorrectpxe05:32
shawarmaThat's not quite enough information for me to tell you why extra stuff is being installed..05:33
incorrectim just getting the info :) 05:34
incorrectwhat pastebin service do we like these days?05:34
shawarmaI usually use pastebin.ca05:35
shawarmaNot necessarily because it's the best, but it's the on I can always remember and it's fairly snappy.05:35
incorrecthttp://pastebin.ca/59380205:36
incorrectsomeone told me off for using .org once05:36
incorrectso i ask now05:37
shawarmaWhat is this for?05:38
incorrectthis is my config for pxe installation05:38
incorrectits just the standard netboot stuff05:38
shawarmaYes, but what are you actually trying to install?05:39
incorrecta minimal system with ssh and snmpd05:39
shawarmaThat does not include X.. Why is there X config stuff in there?05:39
incorrectill try without, but i thought it was there just to complete the install05:40
shawarmaHang on..05:40
shawarmaHmm.. I can't see anything immediately wrong with that config.05:42
shawarmaincorrect: Just for fun: Could you try either setting  tasks=standard  or using the original "default" file and choose the server installation?05:44
incorrectstandard gave me loads of cruft05:44
shawarmaMore than this?05:45
incorrecti get 251 packages installed05:46
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incorrectlovely06:06
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shawarmaincorrect: That doesn't really answer my question.06:14
incorrectim trying to figure out what is going on, it seems to be related to tasksel, i've tried a number of combinations06:15
incorrecthttp://www.debian.org/releases/stable/example-preseed.txt06:16
incorrectthats the file i have been working from06:16
incorrecttasks=server maybe06:19
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J-_following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WordPress, I do sudo sh /usr/share/doc/wordpress/examples/setup-mysql -n (your mysql user) localhost obviously with my username, and it says syntax error ')' near expected token or some such. what do I do to fix it?08:15
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ghatakI want to set up a dns server in my intranet, I am a noob in dns, would anyone point me to right direction or give a bit of help. I want to be able to setup my server so that when people access www.work.com they get to my webserver at 192.168.10.1. 08:34
niekieWhy not work.lan? :)08:40
niekieAnyway, first you need to set up your webserver so that it would allow connections with the Host: being work.com (or work.lan)08:40
niekieThen, you need to set up your DNS server to have an A record for (www.)work.com pointing to 192.168.10.1 and set up all your workstations to use your server as DNS server.08:41
niekieIt can be a pain to do that, though if you have a good router, you might be able to let it tell the workstations that your server should be the DNS server.08:42
niekieghatak: any questions about that? :)08:43
mralphabetand by router, you really mean DHCP server08:43
niekiemralphabet: indeed.08:43
niekieThe DHCP server for your LAN should be able to tell the workstations that it should use your servers IP as DNS server.08:44
niekieOr, you can manually override it on the workstations, if you can't access the DHCP setup of your router.08:44
lcddghatak: depending on the number of machines you have, it might be easier to type the web server's address to the hosts file on each of them09:00
ghataklcdd: sorted, i have to add stuff to named.conf and then zone09:06
ghatakit is working now09:06
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lcddO'Reilly's DNS and BIND is a good read if you want to go further09:12
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J-_currently having problems with the GD library. I have it installed, but it's not working in my status report in Drupal. Where/how can I troubleshoot?10:37
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