[12:45] New bug: #122705 in xorg (main) "Xorg Crash - Qt 4.3 OpenGL Programs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122705 [01:45] New bug: #42554 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "With Radeon 7500, screen is always offset to the right" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42554 [02:06] New bug: #19890 in freeglut (main) "conquest-gl: fail to start (Assertion `window->Window.VisualInfo != ((void *)0)' failed.)" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19890 === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-x [05:21] New bug: #29920 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "When idle and screensaver gets active. GLX becomes amazingly slow" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29920 [05:40] New bug: #57032 in xkeyboard-config (main) "Iraq keyboard layouts crash [Dapper] " [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57032 === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-x === kylem [n=kyle@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-x === pwnguin [n=jld5445@camaro.cis.ksu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-x === mvo [n=egon@p54A67032.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-x === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-x === mvo [n=egon@p54A67032.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-x [02:45] New bug: #122809 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Suspend doesn't work with ati drivers and Radeon M9" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122809 === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-x [03:43] New bug: #122787 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "Video shows with a blue tinge" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122787 [04:35] New bug: #77939 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "fglrx 3d rendering fails in kernel 2.6.20-3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77939 === cjwatson [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-x === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-x === kylem [n=kyle@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-x === pwnguin [n=jld5445@camaro.cis.ksu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-x [07:40] New bug: #121738 in firefox (main) "Font size in Firefox and Thunderbird (dup-of: 118745)" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121738 [09:15] New bug: #122886 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (main) "Intel mobile graphics controller not detected on GMCHB0ICHB0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122886 [10:49] New bug: #122327 in xorg (main) "Mauvaise frequence de rafraichissement d'ecran affiche " [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122327 [10:52] "Added a conflicts of libgl1-mesa-glx against libgl1-mesa-swx11, and vice versa" wtf? they both have Provides/Conflicts: libgl1 [10:54] hobbsee had trouble getting it installed and added that to solve the conflict she had [10:55] i don't understand [10:55] i can't see how that would change anything === mvo [n=egon@p54A67032.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-x [11:03] pulling up the irc convo, one sec [11:09] http://pastebin.ca/594285 [11:12] yeah, still don't understand how adding a redundant conflict would help [11:12] libgl1-mesa-swx11-i686's shlibs are fucked up, though [11:12] I'm guessing it was due to installing via individual .debs rather than through apt, but I'm not sure [11:12] yeah [11:12] i'll fix the shlibs thingy in 7.0-1 [11:13] does the change cause any issues? [11:13] no, it's just useless [11:17] btw I found a minor bug in dexconf with xorg - there's a for loop missing its done. [11:17] line 473 or so === pwnguin wonders how that qualifies as minor [11:18] minor as in a one-line fix ;-) [11:18] major in terms of potential harm [11:19] bryce: also, re: your mail on xorg@, see /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core/NEWS.Debian.gz [11:20] jcristau: also I had a question - VMWare has sent me a handy util for detecting if the vmware mouse driver should be used instead of the mouse driver. I'm wondering where the best place to house such a thing would be? xorg-server/hw/xfree86/utils/ ? [11:21] ah, thanks. "Disable" [11:30] so when should i expect 7.3 to hit gutsy? [11:33] pwnguin: well, according to http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.3, upstream isn't going to release it until August [11:33] well then [11:33] pwnguin: however most of the components are being released individually, and we're integrating them as they come [11:33] we already have most of 7.3 [11:33] what im interested in is the part where config files change [11:34] pwnguin: those are starting to filter in. The next xorg I'm working on uploading will drop some sections from it [11:34] other sections will drop in time. [11:35] when xserver 1.4 is out (presumably by August), the input hotplugging will come, allowing much more to drop [11:35] im hoping it will make things like nv versus nvidia and wacom-tablets simpler to set up [11:35] yes, wacom will be a post-1.4 type thing [11:35] one of the KC lug members was moaning that xorg was generating too many errors because he didnt have a tablet [11:35] open vs. binary driver selection I'm less certain about [11:36] well, those are easy to fix - just comment out the wacom lines ;-) [11:36] or ignore them [11:36] no kidding [11:36] ive recently had to fix some stuff related to tabletPC-ness [11:36] unfortunately, if we drop wacom from the generated xorg.conf's it turns the (harmless) error message into a bug for wacom users [11:37] but theres so many different kinds of wacom users [11:37] im not sure how to generalize the fix [11:37] in any case, I think everyone is looking forward to xserver 1.4, after which work can go into a proper fix, making wacom auto-detected on the fly [11:38] bryce: well i'm not sure i consider "i don't want to have to configure xorg.conf for my tablet" more than a wishlist bug, but. [11:39] the problem is there's no documentation on how to configure it [11:39] nothing in /usr/share/doc worth while [11:40] jcristau: heh, well this was a decision made before my time, but see no reason to change it [11:41] actually in joining canonical, getting rid of that wacom section was at the top of my todo list; I was rather bummed to find it'll have to wait until after input hotplugging [11:41] you could always add a script to wacom-tools that munges xorg.conf ;) [11:43] it seems that wacom currently doesn't detect my tablet PC as a tablet PC, because i have to specificy what the manpage says is a default === pwnguin should probably file a bug about that [11:43] bryce: yeah, if the current section works for your users, it's probably fine [11:44] I created a dexconf patch for any users that really, really want to eliminate it [11:46] jcristau: for tools that assist in detecting input devices, what would be the right package to put them in? Would I be ok in patching them into xorg-server/hw/xfree86/utils/ ? [11:46] i don't know [11:46] probably not, if it's not going upstream [11:48] assuming the need for the tool will be made obsolete by input hotplugging, I doubt it will be important to push it upstream to xorg. [11:48] but I'd like to put it in a sensible place in case e.g. debian may want it [11:48] probably in the xorg package then [11:48] ok [11:49] (as in source package) [11:49] it's compiled .c code [11:49] not sure which .deb [11:49] I notice xorg/debian/local/ contains scripts, so wasn't sure that was a good place for it [11:50] it also contains xserver-wrapper.c [11:59] bryce, what's the symptom of this broken loop [12:01] dexconf is 439 lines long here [12:01] so i can't really see which line 473 you're talking about :) [12:02] sorry, that was the ubuntu-ized version [12:04] anyway, in our version i see one for loop, and it's correct afaics [12:05] ok well maybe I'm on crack. I'll take another look and see where it slipped in.